Charlamagne Tha God and Al Sharpton dissect Kanye West's unlikely Adidas return, debating brand risks amidst geopolitical chaos. They explore "reliberian" politics, critique Scott Adams' racial re-identification, and analyze boxing strategies in the Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury match. The conversation shifts to supernatural intuition regarding 9/11, biblical logistics of Noah's Ark, and the ethics of blackface in Tropic Thunder. Ultimately, the dialogue challenges social constructs on race, faith, and celebrity culture while questioning the sustainability of modern capitalism and identity politics. [Automatically generated summary]
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Kanye and Adidas Bet00:02:59
What's your bet on Kanye getting back with Adidas?
You think that sucks some d ⁇ ?
Again, suck.
Again?
If Kanye gets back with Adidas, you suck some.
Not happening, yo.
Neither one of those things are happening.
I'm confident with that bet.
Really?
You know what your problem is?
You believe in Kanye West, too.
Yeah, that's your fault.
I'm telling you.
I can't wait when he's back and you're going to be wrong.
And you're going to have to suck some.
Why would a company that's making $20 billion in revenue risk bringing in one guy that's going to ostracize so many people away from your brand?
Why would you do that?
What if football, soccer, fight for them, say, you know what?
Y'all in business wouldn't want nothing to do with y'all.
Whatever the fuck.
I think he said, what's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
Today we are joined by, man, really, truly, one of the greatest ever talking a microphone.
His generation by far the greatest, but one of the greatest ever.
And I got to give him some flowers.
Really, the reason why Flagrant exists.
There's no flavor without this ring right here.
You can even go so far as to say my stand-up career would not exist in the way it is without this.
Prime, pray, prayer, prayer, prayer.
We got Charlemagne's God in the motherfucking hill and it.
I don't know if all that is true, but I'm going to take it.
Now, I know if it makes you feel very uncomfortable for me to compliment you like that.
You're used to me making fun of you.
That's maybe more your comfort zone when we're sitting in chaos.
Okay, so we will get to that.
I'm trying to work through that.
I've been working through that in therapy for a while.
On getting already therapy.
Wow, that was quick.
What's the overunder?
No, for now.
You're going to talk about that.
Like, why do you want black people to be so anxious?
I think it's natural for black people to be anxious.
I think at this point, we all live in the United States of anxiety at this point.
I was going to get him.
Like, I'm surrounded by mass shooters potentially right now.
Whoa, why would you people mass shooters?
Whoa.
There's two of them, maybe.
Yeah, I know.
There's a few around the corner.
Okay, definitely.
He just aimed something at me.
Look, Zog.
Yeah, he got you.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
No, you should have some anxiety.
You should have some anxiety.
A little bit.
I'm cool, though.
Okay, good.
Listen, it's finally we got you on Flagrant, man.
I'm happy to be here, man.
I'll tell you, and it makes sense because I go through the airport.
I told you this.
I go through the airport sometime and the people be like, yo, I love you on Flagrant.
And I don't even correct him.
I'm just like, oh, okay.
You just got to let it go.
Let it roll, baby.
That's great marketing.
Now, listen, Charlotte, I promised Al that I wouldn't make fun of his outfit.
I got anxiety right now.
Because I know it's coming.
I'm not going to say anything.
Did I say before that I think you look good?
You did.
No.
No.
It was a hat, a backward hat.
I know he's cooking right now.
That shit is cool, you know?
That shit just looked like something Puffy and Mace used to wear.
That's nice.
That's all it is.
That's all it is.
You've officially came out as a Republican.
How has that been for you?
I'm a reliberian.
Conservative Values at Airport00:02:34
White women don't listen.
Baby, I'm taping.
Yo, I told her I was taping before I started taping.
She's right, though.
But I'm nothing, bro.
I'm not a Republican or a Democrat.
That's what Republicans usually say.
I know I have conservative values.
I'm from South Carolina.
I'm a black man from the South.
I have some conservative values.
You know what I mean?
Like what?
You like the guns?
I like guns.
You know what I mean?
I like capitalism.
Nice.
You know what I mean?
I don't think capitalism is a sustainable model.
I think we're seeing that now.
But I'm not going to act like I haven't enjoyed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You agree.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, I got a lot of conservative.
What do you think is the most sustainable model?
What do you mean?
Capitalism's not.
Communism doesn't seem to be.
No, I think it has to be a form of compassionate capitalism.
So socialism.
I don't think socialism per se, not leaning all the way into socialism.
Isn't it kind of what we're doing already?
Explain.
Like, I think we're already kind of a socialist country, but we're so afraid of the term, so we don't call ourselves that.
You think so?
Yeah, we already, we have all these programs to help out, like, poor people.
We're giving money.
We tax people at a pretty high clip.
Like, you're getting a lot of people.
But see, that's the problem, right?
I wish that, you know, our tax.
I wish we knew where our tax dollars were going.
If I could look and see exactly where my tax dollars were impacting, you know, we don't.
Ukraine.
Definitely merging.
And it's going right to the fucking end.
And I disagree with that.
Ooh, hot take.
Why is that a hot take?
You don't, you support Russia?
I don't support Russia, but I don't support, you know, tens of billions of dollars going to Ukraine.
Yeah, while there's crazy water in Ohio.
Exactly.
When you see what's going on with the train derailment in Ohio, you see, you know, cities all over America that are fucked up.
It's like, yo, come along.
Has brown water, and we're sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.
That's a ballsy thing to do as a president.
And I think I saw Jill Biden the other day.
She was talking about, what country was it?
I forgot what country she was talking about, but the way she's describing the country, it sounds like any urban city in America.
So it's just like, yo, you want us to be so hell-bent on going to support this other country, but what about right here in our own backyard?
So that's something I do agree with conservatives.
When conservatives, they put America first.
What's wrong with that?
Oh, I better hope they get invaded by Russia than they hear some money.
They got a stoked invasion.
Start talking shit to Russia.
Yeah.
Get over here.
Also, we don't know the benefits of that water.
I'm assuming it's probably not.
Oh, but obviously.
But it could mutate them in a good way.
You might get five more LeBron James's exactly.
Yes.
Seriously.
I don't think that's how that works, guys.
We don't know.
There could have been a train derailment.
Formative Years and Corniness00:14:53
I'm from superhero movies.
This is like the plot of every superhero movie.
There's a train derailment.
Now we have some of the movies.
I'm talking about countries with bad water, India, Mexico, they're not producing all these people.
You guys have extra arms.
You're like, two years away, God.
So many arms.
But that is true.
That is true.
And so imagine you get a basketball movie.
But we don't get the muscle or anything like that.
No, but above average intellect.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Fair.
We do get above average intelligence.
I'm not talking about the too many arms part.
When y'all say arms, I mean if...
If there's never a person made with like more than one arm by accident, they're Indian.
I tend to think it's just numbers, but I can't prove that.
And you got that guy that looks like Groot.
Oh, yeah, he's a wood guy.
Oh, yeah.
There's a guy in India that looks like Groot.
Oh, you haven't seen it?
So Groot is Indian?
Yes.
Vin Diesel took that role from an Indian.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He should be called Wood.
Yeah, you haven't seen this?
It's fucking crazy, man.
He's made out of wood?
Pretty much.
How does that happen?
What's the technical term for this?
It's a form of herpes.
It was a spell for a wood.
I mean, it's probably the water, to be honest with you.
Poor guys never jacked off.
Think of life, man.
No.
You could jack off.
Can you imagine not being able to jack off, bro?
You know what I'm saying?
That's the worst dude.
This is the worst part of this.
No, if you do jack off, you'll treat the fucker.
Because it's your dream.
You take trees every day.
This dad's a full-on environmentalist.
I don't think that's real.
No, this is real.
They did a whole documentary on him.
They started to fix him up.
I don't believe him.
For real.
Nah, I don't believe him.
What do you mean you don't believe him?
How the fuck do you fix him up?
Well, there's hands under there, I think.
Yeah, you see it.
They give him some medicine, and then they start to shave that shit away.
What the fuck condition is that, yo?
How y'all don't know?
How y'all know?
What's everything is happening?
While we have you here, you have some inside information on our boy, Michael B. Jordan and Laura.
What inside information do I have?
You got inside information.
I don't have no insult.
You know L'Oreal?
That's my girl.
I love L'Oreal.
Okay, L'Oreal.
L'Oreal.
Yeah, okay.
My dad.
What's the inside of your mother?
You've been missing a letter for me, L'Oreal.
Oh, it's L-O-Apostrophe R-E-A-L.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
L-O-Apostrophe, R-E-A-L.
Okay.
I don't think it's no inside information.
I mean, you want to know the conversation I had with L'Oreal?
Yeah.
Yes, please.
About what specifically, though?
Okay, so basically just the setup is she's interviewing Michael B. Jordan on the red carpet.
That's right.
Right.
And Michael B. Jordan is looking a little salty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
He's confronting a bully.
He is confronting a bully.
You see it.
Look at it.
Look at him.
Do you want to see it?
Look at this.
Oh, I can't wait to talk about this.
All right, so here we go.
No, we know each other.
We go way back all the way to Chad Science in Newark, okay?
I did not.
The eyebrows did, for sure.
No, you did not hear me say.
I said we used to make fun of the name.
But yeah, he is obviously killing me.
How many head nods, yo?
That's a child.
How many head nods?
You got to keep playing.
Well, you got to fast forward, but you got to get to what L'Oreal said at the end.
Okay, what did she say then?
At the end, she said he's not corny anymore.
Yeah.
So from a personality perspective.
Well, thanks for pointing that out, L'Oreal.
But he's superstars.
From a personality perspective, you can't do that after saying you didn't call him corny.
You can't come back at the end and be like, he's not corny anymore because you already said you didn't call him corny.
Oh, so you're saying that you did call him corny.
But she didn't, though.
She's like, I did not say that.
I did not say that.
She really did it.
It was Dominique DeDeva.
They were doing a podcast together.
Dominique De Diva called him corny.
Do you want to hear this?
You know what I really think to down inside?
I think that Michael B. Jordan is just like a nice, corny guy.
You know, it's so crazy.
I went to school with Michael B.
So yeah.
She calls him or one girl calls him a nice corny guy and then she says I went to school with him.
That was Dominique De Diva she.
She also said like, oh, we used to make fun of him.
What you going to do with them stupid little headshots?
Well, as I told L'Oreal, the thing that she has to eat is like, that's the problem, right?
What you going to do with them stupid little headshots?
Become one of the biggest superstars in the world.
So once that happens, you just got to take the L on that one.
Yeah, but why is he still tight?
Everybody's tight over people that got, if you got teased in high school about something and you became that something, you want to tell everybody.
Here's one thing.
I want to know your thoughts.
I'm not arguing with you.
He was in the wire, probably shooting by the time he was 14.
So he was already winning.
So he already, I'm on an HBO show.
Even if it wasn't popping for a few years, what am I going to do with little stupid headshots?
I'm on an HBO show.
You know, HBO don't pay for shit if he's still living in Newark.
It's like, man, you're a child star.
You're still going to see.
You're going back to the fucking wire.
He's method.
I think the other big issue is what do we define as corny nowadays?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, why was Michael B. Jordan corny?
Because he had a dream and some ambition.
I think we're going to embrace corny like we embrace washed.
You know how older people are like, I'm Washed and I'm okay with it.
Absolutely.
It's the same way we used to call Drake corny back in the day, and now everybody is on his day.
Back in the day.
I'm consistently still calling him corny.
Not as much.
Not as much.
I don't mean that.
You used to call him super soft and all that stuff.
And then you got a couple bottles and then all of a sudden he's died.
No.
No.
Well, I did.
I loved how he handled that situation with Meek Nil.
So that was the turning point for me being like, oh, man, I like the way this guy gets down.
I thought Mick was going to be the ruthless motherfucker to come out with two records back to back.
That's the best way to answer somebody.
You say I'm a ghostwriter.
All right, well, get these bars.
You know what I'm saying?
On behalf of corny people, we tend to hold on to shit and just see.
Drake had that building for years.
But what's not corny, though?
Like, all this shit that we consider cool, nine times out of ten, was just some criminal shit.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like all of my fuckers, yeah, all the motherfuckers who considered cool in school ended up probably in prison.
Because that's cool.
You know what I mean?
Being bad is cool.
Being corny isn't cool.
Being good is corny, but being corny makes you a millionaire.
I like, listen, I would rather my daughters date the corny guy.
You know what I mean?
Okay, so that's what you're saying.
You're saying that the description was accurate.
He was corny, and his corniness led him to be a mega star, super successful.
He just hasn't accepted that his corny is what makes him great.
Yeah, all the cool kids was kicking.
Same thing.
They were skipping class.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
They worked in several lines.
Exactly.
They're gangsters right now.
What I'm saying is, I'm looking at this and I'm seeing a guy who's like really upset.
Like, it really bothered him that this girl called him corny.
Yeah.
Like, the head now, like, a million.
Like, he was waiting for that moment.
He could have walked right by her.
I like how Dominique the D would double the game.
He holds a grudge.
Son, you don't hold the grudge.
To be honest, only with people that are higher than me.
I'm being honest.
Let's go.
Look, once I pass you, it all just melts away.
There are people that were like dicks to me when I started comedy.
I told you, I had a list.
Yes, I remember that.
I kept a list for them.
And everyone I passed, it evaporated.
My anger evaporated for them.
And I see them and I dab it off.
All the people that diss you now, like you've gone back at them.
Yeah.
That are smaller than you.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Rarely, though.
Exactly, son.
It's rare.
Imagine he was getting bullied crazy in high school.
Oh, but that's what that means.
That means those.
Those jokes they were doing was fire.
If you still remember that shit at 33, yo, those jokes that you was getting hit with in high school was a bit fired.
You might have said this on the podcast before, but I think I said it.
I don't know if I said it, but like, this made me realize I definitely talked some shit about Michael B. Jordan and forgot I did.
Really?
Yeah, because I met him the other day.
I was having dinner.
I was having dinner with.
You know who that is?
Game of Thrones.
Orange is the new black.
No, it's not a game of the game of thrones.
Game of Thrones.
Yeah, yeah, So we're doing a movie and we're just having dinner to meet and everything like that.
And Michael B. Jordan came over to the table and he went and he shook.
And I had my hand out for like a good two minutes.
He must have shook everybody else's hand at the fucking table before he finally came out around to me.
And I was like, is he doing this on purpose?
Like, what the fuck's going on?
And then I saw the L'Oreal shit and I was like, oh, no, I've said something.
That's why.
That's why you're like this shit.
That's why.
If it makes it feel better, the second he gets bigger than Michael B. Jordan, he forget Michael B. Jordan.
Did you see how Dominique the D would doubled down though?
Oh, yeah, she posted on her Instagram.
Yeah, she posted on her Instagram story.
Any black man that dates white women is corny.
You said that.
The woman that called him corny originally.
Yeah.
So she doubled down on him.
I would date black women if y'all didn't call them corny all the fucking time.
That's actually a good ass point.
I don't even want to tease Michael about that no more.
About what?
Dating white women?
Yeah.
Why?
Because I be joking.
But now it seems like that's really joking.
You know, you got some Umar in you.
No, no, no.
You do have some Umar in you.
No, I do, but I believe love is love.
You know what I'm saying?
He was just dating Laurie Harvey.
What?
Be honest.
You know what I mean?
No, no, no.
I believe black men should be with black women.
That's a fact.
I'm with that.
And then when they're not.
When they're not, they're not.
You know what I mean?
What does that mean?
Like, what do you mean by it?
I know.
It depends.
I don't think Michael B. Jordan's corny.
If you're a pro-Nah, I don't think Michael B Jordan is corny, but if you're one of these pro-black people, like you wake up in the morning and you can't wait to, you know.
To be black.
To be black, like you getting at everybody.
You attacking racism.
But then you go into sleep.
But then you got a white spouse.
A white significant other.
It's like, come on, bro.
That's my least favorite.
Come on, sis, sis.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
What about black women that date white dudes?
Same thing.
Especially if you're super pro-black.
If you're super pro-black about it, it's like.
You know why they're not.
The black love is revolutionary.
What about AOC?
What about AOC?
What is it?
AOC is not.
What is she?
Afro-she's Afro-Latino.
What about her?
She's dating the least black person possible.
Really?
Ginger.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
No.
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
You know why?
That bother me for some reason.
Why?
I don't know.
That don't bother me.
Does politicians like transcend race a little bit?
If Ayana Presley was doing that, I might be like, oh, come on, Ayana.
Who's Ayana Presley?
Ayana's another member of the squad.
Oh, she's a little bit of a dude.
Yeah.
But she got a brother.
She got a brother, but I met her husband.
Yeah, that don't bother me seeing AOC with a ginger.
You know why I think they're so militant is they're insecure about the fact that they're attracted to this other race named Mike and Mock.
Come on, man.
But they don't even compensate by dating them.
Come on, man.
Yeah, but they're not going to go through that.
Come on, man.
That's too much.
Come on, man.
But I think the thing a lot of people don't talk about is like, there's a lot of black dudes that would like to date black women, but black women aren't into them.
And they're relegated to dating outside their race.
And then they get shit on for dating outside their race.
I think that's a misconception.
I think that, you know, there's plenty of black women that want to date black men, but everybody has all of these like.
you know, standards and these rules of engagement that don't even necessarily make sense.
Like it's all of these things that keep us from actually, you know, bonding with each other.
Like what you just said is one of those things.
Like you said, black women are, what did you say?
Black women want to date black men, but they don't.
What do you say?
What reason was that?
Black men want to date black women.
There are black dudes that want to date black women, but black women are like, nah, this dude's corny.
I don't want to date him.
And then a white girl might.
So he's like, okay, I guess.
That could be Michael B. Jordan.
Go where you're celebrating, not where you tolerate.
Black women calling Michael B. Jordan Corny.
But that's their opinion.
Think about that.
And by the way, context matters, right?
Because L'Oreal's talking about high school.
That's a difference.
But those are formative years, man.
All of us were corny in high school in some way, shape, or form.
Yeah, they might have thought he was cornier because he lives in Newark and then he's acting as a drug dealer.
And it's like, bro, there's plenty of real drug dealers here.
And you go on a fucking set to be one of them.
Now, Dominique DeDiva, her point of saying, you know, any black man that dates white women is corny.
That's talking about Michael now.
L'Oreal's talking about Michael from back then.
I think that's the difference.
That needs context.
I guess what I'm saying to defend him is, don't you think in formative years, if the black women you grew up with are calling you corny, it could push you to be unattractive.
Because now you're on set.
There's white girls everywhere.
You're going to meetings in LA.
You're fucking heels not a tough one.
You got to think about where you at.
You in Newark.
You know what I'm saying?
Once you get out of Newark, you'll probably find some black women that appreciate the corny.
In Newark, you don't want no corny, especially back then.
You get too killed.
Exactly.
You want what you think is cool.
Back then, it probably was the drug dealer, the shooter, the gang member.
Back then, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he comes across as a hero for like a lot of people after this.
Like all the kids.
Like all the young kids now that are getting bullied in high school.
And girls are like the cell types.
They're looking at this and they're like, that's the dreamers.
Everybody wants that bullying.
I think you look a little too angry about it.
Somebody else just laughs at it.
Who cares?
I told L'Oreal.
It's still bothering him.
And the crazy part is L'Oreal is known as the bully, right?
Yeah.
That's known as the colour.
If she called him corny right there to his face, he would have punched her in the mouth.
No.
I think he would have.
Well, that would work for her.
No, that would work for her.
That's the only way to win in that situation.
He would have to jump out the window and hit her.
Now, any other way this played out, she's the bully in this situation.
So in order to be a victim, she would have to really be a victim.
You would have to do something like that to her.
There's no, and I told her that there's no way for you to win this.
Like, this is every dreamer's dream.
Like, the person who used to shit on you, told you that you wasn't going to be shit, laughed at you walking around with your headshots.
Now, on the precipice of me having my first movie that I directed and starring, I get to see you on the red carpet of my shit and check you.
You tell me, you're not saying nothing to me.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
You eyeing that motherfucker.
That's why I don't understand LeBron James and Skip Bay.
She's a lie.
Yo, I'm shocked LeBron James has never spiked the ball on Skip Bayless show.
Ever.
When would he be able to?
What you mean?
The times he's won championships, the time he's broke the scoring record, he's still considered the number two greatest player of all time.
Like, now's the time to pop your show if you're going to pop.
You don't think so?
No, it drives Skips crazy.
It drives him fucking crazy the fact that LeBron won't even mention you do, but it feels good to him.
Even when Skip's talking about you.
He's good, but that shows the emotional security of LeBron.
Like, it's really impressive LeBron doesn't do that.
What I'm saying is I'd like to see Michael B dogs.
What we know, Bron don't really have any exactly.
Yo, all I'm saying, wait, LeBron doesn't have it?
Bro, we saw Braun about to fight somebody because they were teasing him about his hairline as he was walking off the court.
That motherfucker was right there, bro.
You got your wife in the crowd, you got your side chick.
Like, there's a lot of people there that could be embarrassed in front of you.
It might be the hairline.
He's insecure about his hairline.
He's not insecure about his basketball ability.
Yeah, that's actually a great point.
Yeah, yeah, you're tapping into the thing that he's insecure about.
That's where you're going to react.
So, LeBron's patient, I guarantee.
When he goes to retire, he'll say some shit.
Because think about it.
When he broke their scoring record, he dropped the F-bomb live while they were talking.
Rocky vs Creed Movies00:03:58
I mean, no.
Which F-bomb?
That matters.
He called Skip an F-bomb, dude.
Really?
Nah, but he said fuck while he was like, fuck.
Come on, that's not the bomb.
But he, but he's been so clean all these years.
He's a fan of the family.
Fuck is a fire content.
We know what the nuke is.
We know what the nuke is.
You're going to drop a nuke when we're describing your outfit.
I knew I had to get one out.
I know, I know.
It looks good, bro.
It looks good.
I'm not.
Actual Michael B. Jordan question.
Is it kind of weird that he still did the interview?
Like, if he just dunked on her or walked off, I'd have thought it was funny or whatever.
But the fact that he still stayed and answered like four questions legitimately after that.
I respect that.
It shows he's a professional.
Yeah, I respect that.
You won already.
Yeah.
You won already.
And that's why at the end, L'Oreal should not have said, but you're not corny anymore.
Like, don't even acknowledge.
You said you didn't call him corny.
So don't even go back to that, making it seem like you did.
You know what I mean?
That just seems a little strange.
Yeah, that's all.
I think she just panicked.
You think so?
She got confronted by this guy.
She's talking about on a podcast.
You get confronted all of a sudden on the red carpet, interviewing him at his event.
You lost.
You got to be prepared for that moment.
Like, if I'm, like, I think she knew, okay, I'm doing the red carpet at Creed 3.
Michael B. Jordan's probably going to walk this red carpet.
Phenomenal movie, by the way.
I don't know if he's going to be a little bit more.
I'm excited to see it.
No, that shit is really good.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
And the directing is top-notch.
And he directed it.
He's a talented guy.
Nah, this shit is really, I enjoyed it.
It's unrealistic if you're a boxing guy.
Why, why?
You know what I mean?
Why?
Most of that.
If I tell you, I'll give it all away, so I don't want to see it.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
Like, tell me, tell me why.
I don't want to give it away.
If I tell you, it's literally giving the movie away.
So the unrealistic part is.
The end?
No, like the middle.
It's not like Rockies were ever realistic.
Yeah, I'm saying they never were.
Yeah, yeah.
Even Creed 2, Andrew pointed out, like, Rocky's like, you got to box the guy that's stronger than you and quicker than you.
And Andrew's like, no boxer would ever tell you to get in there with a guy who's got longer reaches.
You don't want to be realistic.
No, not by.
You got to get inside.
Yeah.
You want to box the guy who's stronger than you.
Well, Rocky would tell you that.
Yeah, because Rocky's an idiot.
Rocky never did any defense whatsoever.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
We're going to look back on Rocky and be like, he had Down syndrome.
Yeah.
The guy with Down syndrome fights.
Rocky's actually the least most important person of all the Rocky movies.
Nah.
Absolutely.
Not the least.
Apollo Creed is the most important person to every great Rocky movie.
Bro, you're black.
Yeah, Dr. Umar.
That's what I'm talking about, bro.
But it's a black prime.
There's a fact.
The first four Rocky movies, and I got this new Invisalign in, so pardon me if I'm spitting all over you.
But the first four Rocky movies are literally centered around Apollo Creed.
Every single one.
Rocky fighting Apollo Creed at the end of the movie sets Rocky up to.
Can't you say that about any antagonist?
No, it's different, right?
The first Rocky movie, they fight at the end of the movie.
It's a draw.
Rocky gets to fight again for the championship in Rocky II.
So both of those, the central figure, is Apollo.
Third movie, fucking Club of Lane comes.
Rocky's rich.
He loses all his mojo, gets his ass whipped by Club of Lang.
Who motivates him and gets him back into motherfucking shape?
Apollo Creed, right?
And Apollo only did that for his own benefit.
Because Apollo wanted to build him back up so he could fight him at the end of the goddamn movie, which they never show you who won, but they tell you later on in the Creed movies.
Then, in Rocky 4, what happens?
Apollo gets fucking killed by the Russian.
So now Rocky has motivation to go to Russia and fight Rocky.
After that, them Rocky movies fell the fuck off.
Why are they able to make a creed?
Because Apollo is the central figure of all fucking Rocky Apollo joke.
He might not be the central figure, but he drives everything.
He's the, I don't even know the words.
He's the main catalyst for all over.
You can't make any of those films without Apollo Creed.
Do you think Rocky's the most progressive movie maybe ever for its time?
It was a movie made in the 70s with a dumb white.
Poor boxer and a super eloquent, classy black champ who's like given though.
Hey, let's give this guy a break.
I know how to sell the fight.
Lesbian Relationships Explained00:03:47
He's like a marketing genius, super well put together.
Yeah, my bad.
I'd be wondering how fire Adrian Pump was right because, think about it right, I think it's she was.
She was a decent looking woman, right?
I said that's what I think.
I think Rocky was a virgin.
Yeah, I think they never explored that in the movies.
I think that was his first piece of pump when he fell in love with it.
I know virgins you, that guy was a virgin.
Yo, he was a virgin.
I thought he was fighting dudes because he was so sexually secure.
I thought that was the whole point of the movie.
Right, because Adrian didn't even.
Adrian wasn't even a good support system.
If we're being honest whoa, Adrian doubted Rocky a lot, bro.
Adrian literally told his motherfucker, you cannot win in regards to the Russian sorry, she wants to save his life.
Charlotte man, god damn, this guy already killed somebody.
So believe in me, that's his L'oreal, bro.
He just needs that negative.
You can come back.
Oh, really so, Michael Balboa, Jordan is a ladder bow with Jordan is hysterical.
Michael Jordan, you're in high school, you're not gonna get some jokes.
That's why that be is so important.
Yeah, it is that be is so important.
What does that stand for?
I really don't know what the b stands for.
Michael B loving white women, Jordan what is this guy?
He's gonna remember this.
I love Michael.
You don't get no credit for Lori Harvey Bakari.
Wow oh, it's Bakari's.
I think people.
Yeah oh, wow.
What do you mean?
The the Lori Harvey thing?
Like he dated Laurie Harvey, she's a black girl.
Laurie Harvey dated Michael B Jordan.
Wow, what's the fucking respect on her name?
Whatever regardless, what's the respect on her name?
Yo, Laurie Harvey is having her weight.
Okay, I mean that she wants broad.
I have no idea who wrote that book for his daughter.
Act like a lady.
Think like a man.
Don't kiss me for the first 500 days.
Act like a lady.
All these rules.
Act like a man.
Think like a lady.
Think like a man.
Act like a lady or act like a lady.
Think like a man.
That's what it is.
Yeah, whatever the fuck it was, she read that book to a tee.
Yeah, she's been having her way with these.
Wait till Lori Harvey relationship book come out.
What will they call it?
Act like a lady, think like a man.
Oh wow, I thought that was Caitlin Jenner's book okay, by the way.
By the way, I think Caitlin might be the only one you can really get those off of, because she don't give a fuck.
No, because nobody gives a about Caitlin.
Why yeah, she's so antagonistic don't exist.
She said that I mean she was kind of anti-gay marriage, she was against marriages yeah, Yeah, she says, I'm attracted to women, but I'm not gay.
And it's like, well, then how are you a woman attracted to women?
She just constantly undermines yourself.
I remember people got mad at me because I said she was a lesbian.
This was like when it first happened that she did that interview.
Remember that interview she did when she first came out?
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, so she's still attracted to women, so she's a lesbian.
And people got mad at me.
You got mad at me for recognizing her for what she is?
Why would they be mad at you?
I have no idea.
You were in the future.
You were too on guard for them.
I guess she is a lesbian.
And the most ideal version of a lesbian when you think about it.
Break it down.
Well, the only issue with a lesbian relationship is there's nothing to penetrate.
Yeah, you got a suction.
Right?
What happened to her?
Lesbian relationship is just too.
There's no dick.
Yeah.
You got to get by a strap on.
You need penetration so they can feel something.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Because she can penetrate.
The other lesbian feels it.
She feels it.
But that makes you not a lesbian, though.
Well, no.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Your body parts don't define you as a man or woman, Charlotte.
Come on, Charlotte.
It's how you feel inside.
So what happens?
So if I put a penis inside a vagina, what is that called?
That's just called sex.
That's a lesbian sex.
Yeah, that's a bunch of lesbos going out.
That is gay sex.
No, that is super gay.
Gay sex.
You put a dick inside a vagina, bro?
Gay?
Yeah.
Hey, yo.
That is wild, bro.
Burning Man Shaman Experiences00:04:08
Dude, bro.
Y'all a reds and vagina?
A lady's dick in a vagina is lesbian sex, bro.
It's a bunch of bows out there.
Yeah, we don't believe in that here.
Lady meat is crazy.
Lady meat is crazy.
What tastes better?
Lady meat or beyond bro?
They call it impossible.
Lady meat is wild.
Yo, the beyond beef, if you put the beyond beef in your lesbian, if you put the beyond beef in your lesbian girl, that is lesbian sex, and we have to respect that.
Yeah.
Simple as that.
I don't think we're saying anything provocative right now.
Nope.
I don't think so either.
I don't know what the fuck you just said.
I don't either.
I don't either.
I'm tired.
I'm like, why don't they handle Burning Man, bro?
That's why.
No, no, we need to get you Burning Man.
Why you want Burning Man?
Pardon me, what happened?
You're going to come to Burning Man, bro.
They're burning.
I like showering, bro.
You can shower.
I thought y'all be out there not showering.
There's bougier ways to do it.
I'm going to do it.
You can do it more bougie.
Y'all be doing like whole baths and shit, like under the arms and the nuts and the ass.
No, you go shower.
I don't want to shout, bro.
See the trailer, yeah, yeah.
We're good.
Oh, yeah, I'm with that.
If you can shower, it's what?
Like glamping.
What is that?
Glamorous camping.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought that was that shit he doing, his fingernails.
That shit he's doing his fingernails out like glamping, bro.
Don't look like it looks like you would call that glamping.
Why?
I don't know.
Look at it.
I think, listen, Al is going through something.
Listen, this is a good thing.
I'm supportive of this.
You know what he got like this?
Very secure with myself.
Bernie, no, Bernie Man, we got a lot of money.
Burning Man did change me, yeah.
Absolutely.
DMT, ayahuasca, what was it?
Ketamine.
Nice.
Ketamine.
Yeah, that shit is nice.
Really?
Yeah, but you just dropped that up.
Is it like a hallucinogenic?
Nah, you just feel like floaty.
It's a disassociative.
Yeah, he just separates you from the world a little bit.
Yeah, gotcha, gotcha.
I like ketamine, to be honest with you.
I'm going to do ayahuasca, bro.
I'm going for it.
Oh, yeah, you're doing that this year?
I'm doing it.
I don't think you're going to do it.
I'm being on the street.
I'm doing it, bro.
I'm interested.
You have so much anxiety.
You're like DMT?
I haven't tried it.
I'm interested in that and shrooms.
DMT only lasts 20 minutes.
I know, but I heard it's a crazy three minutes.
That's kind of better.
Three minutes.
You're not going to be able to take it seriously.
Because you know they do a whole ceremony, right?
Ayahuasca doesn't last three minutes.
DMT lasts three minutes.
Yeah, DMT lasts three minutes.
Ayahuasca is, you're there.
So six, seven hours.
You throw it up the whole thing.
I don't think you'll do it.
I'm doing it.
I pumped out on shrooms.
When I was going to do shrooms in Mexico, they had a whole ceremony and everything.
And at the last minute, I was like, eh.
Crazy?
Why?
I just got scared.
And you don't think you're going to do it.
And it was the environment we were in.
Because Cabo is like, Cabo was cool, but the place we were at in Cabo was more like, it was like a resort type of thing.
And I didn't feel like that would be a nice place to have a shroom trip.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to be a nature nature.
You're scared of what?
You're gonna like find something in your head?
Nah, that's what I want.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking for that.
But I just didn't want to do it there.
It just felt too resorty.
It felt too artificial.
You want like an authentic experience.
But the thing is that with the ayahuasca shit is like if you're really in the jungle, like the anxiety might start acting up.
Like there's animals out there.
But that's why they have shamans and shit.
Yeah, but a shaman ain't on the lunch.
Why would we be in the jungle?
Because that's where they do it.
Yeah, you can go in the desert and shit.
Like you can go to Arizona.
You can go to fucking Joshua's Tree.
It's a lot of shit.
I mean, it's fine with ayahuasca, bro.
But it's not here.
That's a gentrified ayahuasca.
You think so?
You think we should go to the source?
Yeah, do it.
Like, go to South America?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you want to do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or you could do it with the guy that I connect you with.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's why we're talking.
That's a different one.
That's why I know about Arizona and all that shit, because of him.
Yeah, Shaman Omar.
Yeah, shout out to Shaman Omar.
Yeah, yeah.
What is he?
He's an Afghan.
Okay.
I think he's from Afghanistan.
Okay.
And then maybe one other place.
So how does he, I want to know how he's qualified to be a shaman of ayahuasca.
He just does a lot of ayahuasca.
Do it all.
Oh, but he went down there.
Like he like lived in the fucking jungle, the Amazon with them and like imagined all the things and plays that crazy instrument.
Like it's like didgeridoo or something.
Listen, nice guy.
I've been talking to him.
That's what I'm going to do.
And when I do it, that's what I'm going to do with.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I think you'll access something.
I cannot wait.
What are you looking for?
You're like searching for it.
He's going to dress like Alex when he gets back.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Flying Saucer Encounters00:04:21
No, no, no, no.
Hold on a second.
Hold on one second.
What are you looking for here?
I've always felt like I move in and out of dimensions anyway.
Yeah.
Like I've always felt like that, even sober or even through dreams and stuff like that.
Like I've always felt like I was tapped into something else that other people didn't see.
So I want to really, really confront that.
And there's something you feel like you have to confront.
Because you've been going through this transformative experience the last few years.
Yeah, I think I just want to confront that part.
I want to confront that other dimension, that other worldly thing that you see, but you don't know if you're really seeing it.
You know what I mean?
Can I just tell you from the outside?
It feels like you realized recently that your whole life you were running from something.
No.
Well, let me just get it out.
You tell me.
You're running for something or distracting yourself from something or finding ways to cope with a thing that's there.
And then it feels like the last few years you're going, I want to confront this thing.
I want to know everything about it.
I feel like I've always ran to it.
I want to know if all of those things I've seen throughout my life are actually legitimate.
Like the times I've woken up and felt like something was standing over me, you know what I mean?
Or the times I've been laying in my room and like this figure that just looks like a bolt of energy came in and was dancing.
You know what I mean?
Like the time I felt like I've seen flying saucers.
I want to see if all of that is like really connected to the flying saucer story.
Oh, I was in third grade.
Third grade, this is back in the day when the school bus used to drop you off and you had to wait till like a parent would come home or like your grandma.
So I'd be waiting on my grandma at my grandma house.
And I literally saw the black flying saucer just hovering over the trees.
And I just stared at it for a while.
Then it just shot off.
And what did it look like?
Like the flying saucers you would activate.
Like the typical basic black flying saucer you would see in every fucking.
Have you seen alien movies before?
By third grade?
No, I wasn't in the aliens yet.
So you didn't even know what it was.
I know what you saw later.
Not until later.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you're like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
That flying saucer.
I've seen the flying saucer before.
Absolutely.
You went to the store with those Australian kids.
In third grade, I was Judy Bloom, bro.
That's what I was into.
I was in the all-Judy Bloom, Beverly Clearly shit.
I hadn't gotten to the supernatural and ghost and UFOs and all that.
So what'd you think it was?
I didn't know what it was.
To me, it was just like seeing a helicopter or a plane in the sky.
It was just this thing floating over the trees.
Like I wasn't scared or nothing.
And when was the first time that you realized that it was, it could have been a UFO?
Later on, maybe a couple years later when I started reading about UFOs or maybe seeing like flying saucer shit on television.
I'm like, oh, I've seen one of those before.
Did it click?
Or even before that, I used to have this red tractor, right?
Like I used to have this red hard plastic tractor.
A toy, a toy which had like a farmer on top of it.
The farmer used to get off and like with me, like when I was by myself.
The farmer would get off the red tractor and like, talk to me and and I used to tell my mom and i'm like okay, whatever.
And then, you know, we used to have to burn trash, like in the yard.
So I took the red plastic tractor and threw it on the fire and the guy was screaming whoa, he couldn't get off the tractor.
Then this is a good point he was burning, he was on fire right, but he didn't get off the tractors.
Yeah, he was just screaming, he was melting, it was plastic.
I'm sure he was.
Hey Jesus, burn white.
The tractor was red, but i'm just gonna assume like he's probably in the figure of a white person.
Come on bro, did you share this with anybody at the time?
I wrote about it in my first book.
Oh yeah, I did.
I used to tell my mom all the time yes, and then what would you?
My mom is probably the only person who can like vouch for all of these stories because I was saying them in the moment.
You know what I mean?
No no, but what did they think when you were just being a crazy person?
You have a figure that I really don't know.
They never said anything to me personally.
What would it do when it got off the tractor?
It would just like talk to me.
Back in the day y'all used to do all this work.
Now they got me on this tractor grace, he had a more Asian accent than no no, because it was a rice car.
He would just talk to me.
Mac Miller Survival Stories00:05:58
You know what I mean.
And the only other person I heard have an experience like that was Tiffany Hattish.
She said her toys used to talk to her when she was young and you don't think you just had a wild imagination as a child.
I don't, but that's my point.
I don't know.
That's what I want to see.
I want to, I want to see and i've always felt like uh, i've always felt like I had some type of uh, a bewitching air.
What does that mean?
Meaning that, like I can say that's gonna happen and it'll happen, like this is gonna happen to that individual and that is gonna happen.
I just always felt like example.
No okay, all right, I mean I can't in my life I don't want to say it about nobody else but in your life.
That'd be great.
I've called it, i've caught, like i've called, i've called 90 of everything that's happened, maybe not to the t you know what I mean, but for the most part, like it's been all accurate.
Can you sense, like energies you meet someone, 100 it's all.
Everything I do is all energy, like literally like it's all energy.
When I meet people, I don't i'm not even seeing y'all, i'm seeing and feeling, i'm feeling energy and that lets me know like oh okay, I want to do this with that person, or that person should be over here or I should be over there, like you know what I mean, like I feel, like I feel it a lot of, a lot of times.
I just want to tap into that in a real way.
What is something that you predicted in your life that wouldn't be obvious?
Something I predicted in my life?
I mean, I don't think nothing in my life has been obvious because you, could you predict in a million years, a kid from a dur road in monks corner, South Carolina, with a population of six, seven thousand, thirteen thousand five hundred sixty eight, as of today, like 10 500, but like, could you predict that?
Like that person would end up being, I guess, a prominent voice in a city like New York and then nationally syndicated all across the country.
I think that there's a lot of people you might place that bet on.
I don't know if it would be.
Me seems unlikely, you know, the odds are are low of it happening.
That's my odd.
I'm saying more specific things because I remember once you refused to get on a float on a flight because you had a bad feeling absolutely about that flight, absolutely.
Now that flight absolutely flew into the twin towers.
No no, that's not what happened.
Wait, what?
Uh, I didn't fly until after the twin towers, but Why would he say that?
I don't know.
I would say that a better person.
It is a better story.
Don't really mess that up.
Yes, you messed up.
So what happened to that flight?
Nothing that I know of, but if I had gotten on it.
If you were on it, if I had gotten on it.
You might have changed it.
Yeah, you would have stopped it.
If I had gotten on that flight, I was supposed to fly.
I was with you until this story.
No, hold on.
This is where I'm going to be.
Well, here's the thing.
I don't know.
Listen, I don't have those feelings too often.
So if I'm sitting at the airport and it was a bad snowstorm, we're supposed to go to LA.
It was a bad snowstorm.
When I say every single airline.
Every single snowstorm.
Yes.
Okay.
In New York, if every single airline is canceled.
If every single flight is canceled.
Every single flight is canceled.
Why would I be so lucky that mine is going out?
You know what I mean?
And I had a panic attack in that moment.
I'm like, I'm not going.
I was supposed to go to Mac Miller's house to film with Mac Miller because that's when MTV2 was doing all of the cross-promotion with everything we were doing.
I think I went to his house.
I think you might have been.
Because I was already out there.
He was already out there.
Yeah.
I think it was you and Nessa.
No, no.
I just wasn't.
Nessa and I were out there doing something.
Then they just asked me to go to his house and I did something for MTV2 because he had his show coming on MTV.
I mean, nothing happened to the plane that I know of.
I just know I wasn't supposed to be on that plane.
Wow.
I don't know why.
Something else could have happened to you in LA.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Wow.
But that's the type of stuff I listen to.
You know what I mean?
I have no problem.
How do you make sure?
Because I think this also happens with me.
Like the more success you get, the more you feel like you have to lose.
And then the more anxious you get about losing those things.
Right.
So you get really successful.
You go, do I really need to go skydiving?
Do I really need to, do I really need to go fast in this car?
Do I really need to jump off this bridge?
Everything you name, you do not have to do.
You don't, but when you have nothing to lose, you're like, I might as well do this shit.
This is white.
Those things are awesome.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is, is how do you make sure that these aren't, these aren't like, this isn't your intuition popping up.
Or your anxiety.
Or you're rather just your anxiety and you not wanting to lose all these amazing things you have going on.
I mean, that's a great question.
Because that was my thought about the flight.
It's just fear.
Probably.
Logical fear.
But I've never had that.
So imagine you've never had that.
Like, imagine you've been jumping off.
You've been to LA a million times.
You've been all over the world.
Like, so imagine that one time you're like, oh, hell no.
I'd be a fool not to listen to that.
You know what I mean?
And if I lose something in that process, cool.
I'd rather listen to what I feel is my intuition.
That makes sense.
Yeah, and not my anxiety.
I think as you got more successful, you have more to lose.
You just fucked it up.
Yeah, whatever.
Successful.
Yeah, there you go.
I think you have more to lose.
And so that's why the fear is growing now.
The biggest thing I'm ever afraid of losing is my life.
Yeah.
Like, I'm talking about my actual physical existence.
Like, everything else, it's like whatever.
Because you can't control it.
You have to have a lot more to live for now.
You have your daughters.
You have your wife.
Like, you're going to leave them behind.
So before you didn't have any fear because it was just, no, no, I did.
I never wanted to die.
I've never bought into that shit.
That whole ready to die, you only live once.
You know, live fast, die young.
I never bought on that shit.
You were doing stuff that could have got you killed.
You were selling drugs.
You were doing bad shit.
No, that's so interesting that he says that because actually those are more survival methods, right?
Because the reason those are survival methods, because I felt like if I didn't get accepted by that crowd that I was running with, then I'm isolated and you got more of a chance of something bad happening to you if you're isolated.
You know what I mean?
So you're more so just wanting to be down with this crew or whatever because you feel a sense of protection.
You know what I mean?
So that's more survival to stay alive too.
That actually reminds me of something.
Lucid Dreaming Control00:09:25
I read in your book where you talked about the first book where you talked about how you was like, as a boy, you just said some guy on TV was cute or something.
And then your dad was like, yo, that has nothing to do with it.
No, no.
No, here's what I'm asking.
How different would your life be than if you met?
He had that one lock.
He loved it, man.
I'm going to find a way to get this fucking question.
I've been running answers, dude.
Look at the phone.
This reminds me.
Yeah, this reminds me.
You were gay when you were a kid.
What the fuck does he remind you of, bro?
Because he said he was running with a bad crowd.
And then that was the moment where your whole thing, your dad was like, yo, I get what I'm talking about.
I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
I actually read the book.
I get what I'm talking about.
But your dad was like, toughing this kid up, and that's when you started going down that fucked path.
But no, it goes, but that also goes back to wanting to be accepted.
Because when I made that comment, I was with all of my women cousins.
I was with my sister and my two women cousins.
And they're looking at BBD on TV.
And they're like, oh, Ricky's the cute one.
And Ronnie's the cute one.
And Michael's the cute.
I'm like, hey, Michael's the cute one.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, we grew up in the 1900s and 80s, baby.
Everybody was homophobic back then.
So when I said that, the alarm rang.
Daddy!
Really?
Nah, in here saying men are cute.
Yeah.
And, you know, Christmas was canceled.
I mean, even though we were Jehovah's Witnesses, I don't mean that literally.
You know what I mean?
Meaning that he was on the phone and I remember because the phone was stretched from the living room all the way to the kitchen and that cord just got shorter and shorter and shorter.
He's like, hold on, let's back.
What happened?
They told him what happened.
He snatched me up and he threw me in the yard and my two cousins like literally treated me like I was a football.
Like they played football, but I was the football.
So they would toss me to them and then tackle each other.
Damn.
Straight up.
Wow.
Absolutely.
And so that's how you make people straight.
Yeah, that's a weird way.
If someone was gay, that's how you would convert it.
But is that the conversion?
That seems like that's what they would want.
We don't talk about how gay football is enough.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, it ain't really.
It's a wet gay dream.
Yeah.
All these men walking around in tight pants, bent over right before they hike a ball.
And helmets so no one knows you're gay.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, man.
Quarterback center position is like the most wildest shit.
Like you got to have your hands like this.
Yeah, yeah.
Underneath somebody's ball segment while then somebody gives you their balls.
I love it.
You know what I mean?
Every position's pretty gay, too.
Really?
Tight end wide receiver.
Yeah.
Tight ends are virgins.
That's true.
That's pretty natural.
Tight ends are virgins.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tight ends are virgins.
Yeah.
It's crazy how everybody's dick got hard at the same time thinking about this.
I don't even know.
My computer almost flew off my lap at a moment, right?
Back to your anxiety.
Where are you at on dreams?
You think dreams like...
For real, though.
Back to like feeling energy and shit.
I'm trying to get to the bottom of this.
You're my ayahuasca right now.
Where are we at on dreams?
You have dreams and they come true?
Do you believe that dreams mean something?
I've never had a dream that came true.
I do believe dreams mean something, but I believe dreams are more metaphors.
You know what I, what's been happening recently?
I get visited by dead people in my dreams.
Whoa.
A lot.
You know what I mean?
I got visited by jazz in two dreams.
I got visited by my grandmother once in a dream.
I got visited by my homegirl, Michelle Austin, in a dream.
And this has been in recent times, like over the past, yeah.
My grandmother, when she died in 0, when did she die?
06?
She died in 06.
I had two dreams about her.
And it was like, one dream was like it was on some like Max Headroom shit.
So it was like all of her.
Remember Max Headroom?
Y'all remember Max Headroom?
Yeah.
Damn, am I that old?
None of y'all remember Max Headroom?
No.
God damn, y'all gotta Google Max Headroom.
But Max Headroom was like this, like, I don't wanna say AI, but this thing from, I don't know if it was Pepsi or something back in the day, but it was my grandmother, like, okay, Hollywood Squares.
It was like my grandmother's head in all of these Hollywood squares.
You know what I mean?
And it was just kind of like shaking and that was odd.
But then the next dream I had of her, she was looking really young.
And I was sitting in her house and I think I was sitting in the chair she passed away in, and she was telling me about my niece, my sister's only daughter.
Like she was telling me about her.
Like just saying like, oh, you know, yeah, I saw her this and that.
And that was very realistic.
Same thing with jazz.
I had a really realistic dream about the jazz.
We were all somewhere and I saw her walk in.
And I'm like, oh, shit, jazz.
And then she turned around and left.
And then I went chasing after her and she told me she didn't want to be bothered.
And I haven't had a dream about her since.
And then my homegirl, Michelle Austin, I had a dream that we was at this house I had rented the summer she passed away.
And it's so interesting because in the backyard, we were all sitting in the backyard and everybody that was with me in that house was there in the dream.
But she was there.
And she just was like, she came up to me and she just told me, thank you.
And she told me, she told me to walk with her.
And we walked to the bar and she fixed the drink.
And then I woke up.
Whoa.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I've been having dream.
I've had dreams about, those have been my dreams lately.
Are you ever lucid in those dreams?
Lucid with you can control yourself.
Hopefully.
Hopefully if your grandma's around.
No, I mean, like, are you ever able to control your behavior in the dream?
It's called lucidly dreaming.
So you know you're dreaming and you recognize you're dreaming and you go, okay, I'm in a dream right now.
I can kind of do whatever I want.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, that's a good question because none of the dreams are normal.
Like I knew, like when you, when you, I don't know, because when they don't have to be normal.
When I saw jazz, I got up and ran after her.
But do you know you're dreaming?
Put it this way.
There's been times where I've been dreaming, right?
And I go, I think I'm dreaming right now.
Oh, yeah.
And you immediately try to fuck.
And then I'll like try to fly.
Like, and I'll just fly.
No, I've never had that happen.
You fly first?
I've had sex with more than one woman.
I know that.
Dead respect, right?
He's sexy.
In my dreams, I fucked many women.
Y'all, your dad about to fuck you up.
Come on.
Come on, come on.
I'm curious if you would believe that.
And you would try to have conversations with these people.
Do you try to take advantage of those moments?
No, I've woken up.
I'm like, damn, I want to go back to sleep to get back in that moment, but I've never like...
Yeah.
You think that's a metaphor and not you going in between dimensions or realms or whatever the term?
No, yeah.
Those dreams, I feel like I'm in dimensions.
You know what I mean?
Which makes you wonder about like just even this life we live.
Because literally when I had that dream about Michelle, I was, when I say I was at, I was, I had rented a house at the Isle of Palms that summer.
And it was like my family and like, you know, my friends, like Angela Rye was there.
Like all of us were in this house.
You know what I mean?
And when I had this dream about Michelle, it was that crew.
Like everybody was there.
It was so realistic.
It was the same house.
It was the backyard.
It was everything I had already felt.
You know how when you've been somewhere before, so you can feel it.
Like if you've been somewhere, you can feel that place.
I felt that in my dream.
It just so happened that Michelle happened to be there.
You should try taking a little melatonin.
Like if I take a little bit extra, I'll have a lucid dream.
Oh, you lucid dream regularly?
Only if I have melatonin.
I have like I can continue where I left off in the dream.
I've done that into it.
I'll wake up, go to the bathroom, go back, continue to dream, and I can make all the decisions.
I'll fly.
I do the flying shit.
If you want to, maybe.
That's why I want to do ayahuasca, though.
Because even when I talk to mediums, right, like I love talking to mediums because back in the day, I had a medium randomly run up on me and tell me all of this stuff that was going to happen in my life.
Like, I mean, literally everything from daughters to, you know, he kept saying, I see a microphone and how it's turned.
Like he was saying all of this to me.
This was like 2006.
And he was telling me about all these guides that I have around me.
And he was like, you know, all of these guys are conspiring to see me succeed.
So you didn't predict nothing.
Somebody just told you.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
Okay, lucid dreamer.
But, oh, I had.
Man, that was steep.
No, because when I said lucid dream, I really meant wet dreamer.
You know what I mean?
But I didn't want to backtrack, try to play the GoPro.
You know what I mean?
But yeah, so I like talking to mediums and mediums are always talking to me about how these people from the other side. are trying to communicate with me.
You know what I mean?
And as I've gotten older, I feel that and I hear that.
So you wonder if I'm just hearing shit.
All right, this is what I want to believe.
I want to believe I'm talking to these people.
Or is it really happening?
So that's why I want to do ayahuasca to see if I can like really tap into that thing that people always tell me they see around me.
So you're, you already believe that there are these different realms.
100%.
And you feel like you've kind of organically tapped into them different subscribers in your life.
And you think through ayahuasca, it might confirm that that is a reality.
Absolutely.
I'm 100% sure.
Yes, because everybody that's done it says that's how they feel.
They say they're fully aware they're here, but they're also fully aware they're someplace else.
And they're able to do what you all were talking about doing.
I guess like navigate their way through that other realm, like talk to the other beings.
Yeah, you're present in this trip.
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Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Lucidly dreaming.
Yeah, I think you lucidly dreaming would be really interesting.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
It would be kind of cool.
I think, I guess that was that movie.
What was that movie Leonardo Cabrio was in?
Inception?
Woof of Wall Street?
Inception.
No.
Inception.
Inception, yeah.
And it's like the ability to kind of like get lost in a dream and like hang out with these people who have passed.
Like imagine every time you went to sleep, you had a choice.
You could hang out with your parents, your grandparents, or your friends who have passed.
You wouldn't care about death that much.
Yeah.
Because it's not gone.
Yeah, it's not gone.
It's not gone.
Your whole perspective on death would be totally different.
I think about that with Black Panther.
You know how when Black Panther and they go on like the, what's it called, the ancestral plane?
It's like, damn, if you know you're going to be with your loved ones in the future and y'all are going to be with each other, you wouldn't trip off death like that.
Yeah.
And we probably get more sleep.
Like we don't prioritize sleep now.
But imagine you miss sleep.
You miss some time with your dad.
You miss your time with your mom.
You're excited to go to sleep.
You can't wait.
It's 8 p.m.
Let's go.
Lock it in.
Yeah.
Like that's.
Man.
Oh, that's fine.
You don't even need to do drugs, really.
If you got a lover, you know what I mean?
You be a gay lover.
Make sure you sleep on your stomach every night.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
No, it's okay, bro.
I mean, if you got something.
It's you.
Every time I look at you, I can't help but.
You look like it's firm.
Yeah.
Making verbs.
Yo, that's why.
You need to get slurped up.
That's for wild.
Oh, crazy.
That's great.
This is not gay.
It's called being progressive.
No, but that is progressive of you.
Like sleeping on your stomach just in case you have a dream where one of your, you know, one of your buddies back in the day is now gay in the dream world.
He could fuck you.
Like, because it's self-defense.
Yo, if you get fucked by a man in your dream, are you gay?
If you slept on your stomach, you are fucking your sleep for sure.
Really?
You're just gayer than fucking a man here asleep for sure.
That's like the gayest dream.
Why?
Well, you got in a position to get ready for it first.
You like primed your dreams.
Also, you lost a fight.
Fighting in your dreams is hard, though.
Like, you know what I mean?
In general, like your punchers are mad slow.
You can't run properly.
So if you get fucked and it's just kind of like it happened to you, then maybe it's not as gay.
Yo, you want it, bro?
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Yeah.
It's there.
It's in your subconscious.
You're in fucking.
I'm not going to lie.
I had a dream.
That's why they call it a song.
I had a dream when I was hooking up with this girl, man.
And like, and her clip was kind of big.
Whoa, It was kind of like, I went down there.
I was like, yay.
Yo.
Alexandra Wayne.
But it was kind of big, bro.
Yeah, how big?
Say again?
It was like, it was, it almost looked like them birthday hats.
You know, those like coned birthday hats?
Oh, yeah.
And it had like an ornament on it.
Yeah, it was weird.
I was like, what is this?
You suck it like a man or the ornament.
I don't think I sucked it, bro.
I probably kissed it, though.
I probably kissed it.
I probably maybe gave it a kiss or got to, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not, that's not gay.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
It's a woman.
It's a woman's long clit.
It's a woman's long clip.
I mean, a clit is a little dick, though.
It would be.
No, no, no, it is.
It's been proven.
That's the part of the body that grows into it.
It's been scientifically moving, y'all.
The same ones that said COVID was made by the Chinese.
Scientifically proven.
Can we talk about that?
Can we talk about Woody Harrelson speaking truth to the child?
What did he say?
He was on SNL, bro.
What did he do?
He said that, maybe we could play it right here.
This is just one little part of it.
Stay locked in their homes, and people can only come out if they take the cartel's drugs.
Being forced to do drugs?
I do that voluntarily all day long.
Boo, boo.
That was garbage.
Wait, why?
That delivery, I mean, that might have been a good setup, a good premise, but that delivery was horrible.
Well, there's, yeah, there's no joke.
White men can't tell jokes.
How do you feel about that, Shult?
How do you feel about that?
How do you feel about that, bro?
He was in White Man Can't.
You would have delivered that way better than that shit.
There's no joke there.
I think it was supposed to be, but I think he flubbed the teleprompter.
Yeah.
Or maybe it wasn't written on the teleprompter and he was like, I'm done getting these boosters.
By the way, Jon Stewart did that way better on Colbert.
That was challenging.
John Stewart.
That's what I'm saying.
John Stewart did that way better on Colbert.
It's a different joke.
Not really.
It is different.
It's a very different joke.
John Stewart was telling us that that shit came from the lab in Wuhan.
He's saying it's the drug, like the drug companies or cartels that Pfizer and Moderna or whoever.
Oh, so he's joking more about the vaccine than the virus.
Got you, got you.
Stuart's about the origin of the virus.
That's bold to do on SNL with that liberal audience.
Yeah.
Didn't like it.
I didn't.
It didn't hit.
I thought a punchline was coming, so it didn't hit for me.
I like the attempt.
It's just wild he did it.
Yeah.
That's what.
The implication was a joke.
I didn't pick up on it.
I just assumed the way he built tension, something's coming.
Maybe that's why it didn't hit because maybe it wasn't in the prompter.
Yeah.
Because they knew that if it was in the prompter, it would have been something they would have made them change.
So maybe it wasn't something he even rehearsed.
And so he thought he could go up there and wing it, and that shit didn't goddamn flap.
Yeah, because they have a dress rehearsal before that's really the whole show.
And that's right.
Didn't do that in the dress rehearsal and then brought up lie.
Yeah.
What was the point of playing that clip?
I feel like you had a point before y'all played it.
I kind of shit it on it.
Because it just seemed like a lot of people.
Well, I don't think we were bringing it up as like a genius piece of comedy.
But I thought it was kind of interesting to see like a mainstream television show like SNL that always like toes the company line to at least put out an attempt at a joke about the pharmaceutical companies kind of forcing people to get vaccinated.
Yeah, I think folks know the jig is up.
You know what I mean?
And it doesn't matter what side you're on.
I think anybody with some common sense and some eyes can look and be like, all right, that might have been fun.
Bro, do you see how they slow rolled it?
Like, it was a couple weeks ago.
They're like, it turns out if you have had COVID, that immunity is just as good as the vaccine or the booster.
Yeah.
Right?
That was part one.
And then part two was, yeah, this shit came from China, bro.
Bro, 90% of everything the YouTube scientists were saying is right.
Has been true, yo.
Straight up.
Bam, bam, bang.
Bam, bam, bang.
That's what they were doing when they were giving people the vaccines.
Bam, bam, bam, bang.
But do you think people learn, though?
Like, do you think people get jaded from this?
Like, let's say something similar happens in five years.
Do you think people are like, well, remember when we got lied to and they weren't telling us the whole truth?
Or do you think people just don't?
I think fear is so irrational.
The fear of death, I think most people will still fall in line.
I don't know, Akash.
I don't think people care about fear anymore.
Because once again, we had this conversation two weeks ago.
There was three unidentified flying objects flying over America that got shot down.
They haven't retrieved no wreckage.
They told us they don't know it.
They don't think it's from China.
They don't know where it's from.
And nobody gave a fuck.
You know what I mean?
Like the possibility of nuclear war, I'm not saying it's high, but it's higher than it's probably ever been in our lifetime.
And nobody gives a shit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like nobody, like, nobody gives a fuck.
There's too much cheap distraction.
It's like you, anybody, as long as you have enough money to have a phone and an internet connection, you can go on TikTok or Instagram or YouTube and be distracted for eight hours a day and have the time of your fucking life.
That's never existed before.
People are bored before.
So when you're bored and poor, you get to focus on how broke you are.
That shit sucks.
I also think the size of the threat makes a difference.
Like if you learn like...
That's bigger than nuclear war.
I don't know, but that's my point, though.
It's like, if you learn that, like, oh, there's a serial killer in my area and he might come in my house, I feel like people get scared because they can control it.
I can fight one guy.
But when it's like, hey, the whole planet might get eviscerated, people just go, all right.
I think there's a piece in how destructive that's.
That's interesting.
I think the news has been pump-faking so long that we don't care about the world.
They're going to believe nothing.
That shit happened.
They were desensitizing absolutely everything.
And we have this perfect distraction.
I'm telling you, if you took away everybody's phones and we were getting news that Biden gave a billion dollars to Ukraine, we would show up at the fucking White House.
It's been $30 billion.
Pitchforce.
Holy shit.
If we found out, but the fact that we all have our phones and we can just laugh at a video, laugh at another video, laugh at another video, and just go on our lives, play a fucking video game, just distraction, distraction, distractions.
The new opiate of the masses, dude.
But it's like, it's like, what is it?
Give them a circus, give them bread and circus, right?
The problem is the Romans didn't have enough circus.
You have one of these fights every month or something like that.
Every second, you got a new fight in the Coliseum.
They didn't have enough circus.
So do you think the Romans knew that their empire was falling?
When it was actually falling?
Do you think they knew?
I think probably it was too late by the time they realized.
That's what America, that's what we're at right now.
That's what it kind of feels like.
That's what we're at.
It's a different time.
It's a different time.
Because we got the nukes, bro.
It's a different time.
So Russia got bored.
I don't have any confidence they could actually get them here.
Yeah.
It can go from America by land, it's 20 to 30 minutes.
By submarine, it's 10 to 15 minutes.
So they say.
I'm not even.
They can't even invade Ukraine.
You know what I mean?
Like, I need to see you snatch up Ukraine.
They might not be the best on land.
But when it comes to hitting that button, that's what they would like you to believe.
I'm not as worried about nukes because there's so many we can destroy each other's entire countries, the entire world.
So it's like a lot of those nukes.
But I think financially and all that stuff, I'm worried more about other countries coming up like China or whoever.
Oh, China's in there.
China Ben did that play.
China been buying up everything in Africa and the Caribbean, parts of America.
Like China been playing the long game.
I think we've lost the financial game to China already.
And that's really, to me, the game now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can see that.
It's all about the money.
Trying to think.
Did you see the article that said Donald Trump was going to hit the nuke on North Korea?
No.
That would have been sick.
Gosh, no North Koreans coming to Akash shows anymore.
They can't get out of North Korea.
The rebound from nukes in Asia.
They want into the bunk.
If you think about it, like what Japan is way better off.
Do you know what I mean?
Like if we're just looking at Japan before, they went from samurais and the shingled roof to like technological superpower.
You know how burning down a forest makes the soil more fertile?
Yeah.
I don't know enough about that.
I'm just saying that that did happen.
So it's not like this, it might help North Korea.
They might need a reset.
They might need to take the game.
I don't think there would be any more North Korea if a nuke got dropped on no careers.
I'm dead.
Japan is a big place.
Nah, I think there's nothing left right now.
You need to grow in the context a little.
And how do you, and how do you do that without North Korea?
How do you do that without blowing up South Korea?
How do you do that without blowing up South Korea, too?
I mean, they're right by each other.
For every dice game.
Jesus Christ.
Now, I don't want this to happen.
I don't want this to happen.
But so far, we've had a good record when it comes to like, you know, turning over.
To Akash's point, like, nobody wants to go nuke for nuke.
Everybody knows you go nuke for nuke, it's over.
Yeah.
But how desperate is Russia right now?
We don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, they're saying that this war is like putting a strain on Russia that they've never felt before.
And they're talking about the health of Putin.
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He might just be like, fuck it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I ain't going to be here.
One last ride.
Why not?
Yeah, bro.
Bro.
If they blow us up, we blow them up.
It's over.
Everything's done.
But if I'm the leader that's going anyway, y'all going to remember.
Nobody will remember his name because we're all dead.
Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham told y'all what to do, but y'all act like old Lady Bug was bugging.
Lady Bug said somebody need to take him out.
I think we probably tried.
You think so?
Yeah.
I mean, he can't even shit alone.
Have you seen him go to the bathroom with other people?
Like a girl.
He shits like a...
You don't think they have drones the size of Ant-Man yet?
Say again?
You don't think they have drones the size of Ant-Wee yet?
I think we do.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You saw that tiny camera?
There's a new camera that came out.
It's like the size of a grain of rice or smaller, and it takes like a 480p picture.
It's insane.
But it's like you can stick it on a wall.
Damn, see it.
See, that's fucked up.
Yeah.
So then, yeah, so we should probably run that up.
He be knowing some weird shit.
This is going to be useful.
This could be useful.
See, Ant-Man?
I definitely saw Ant-Man.
What you thought?
I thought A-Man was great.
Nah, stop it.
Son, it was amazing.
I thought it was great.
Why is everybody telling me?
Why is everybody telling me Ant-Man is trash?
Because people are fucking hype beasts, even when it means, people are hype beasts for the internet.
So everybody, if they'll go online, look at what the popular opinion is and run with it.
Ant-Man was fucking awesome.
He's great.
I thought he was.
I wish he would have got killed, though.
Why?
Why?
Because it would have showed how much of a threat Kang really is.
I feel like Kang went out a little too like...
A little too heavy.
A little too soft for him to be the big, bad threat that we know he is.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I wish he would have killed that man.
Or maybe the WASP.
You can get rid of the WASP.
You got to get rid of somebody.
Kill a WASP.
Yeah, yeah.
Kill a WASP.
Just show the level of threat that he is.
If you don't want to kill Ant-Man, you should have killed the WASP.
Did he kill anybody?
Was there anybody that...
No, and he kept talking about all the Avengers he killed, but you didn't kill any.
You got to show me killing Ant-King.
Yeah, Thanos killed half the fucking world.
That's right.
Bye.
Actually, I love the first scene in The Avengers when he takes out Loki.
Yeah.
Set the tone.
He also beats the shit out of the Hulk.
That's what I'm saying.
I said, let him have his fun.
So much so that the Hulk had fucking erectile dysfunction for the rest of the goddamn movie.
Think about that.
But that was the last one.
It was like, it built up.
We saw a lot of famous.
No, that was second to the last one.
In the first place.
Second war.
Oh, really?
And then second to the endgame.
It was one of the best opening scenes to an action movie ever.
And ending.
Take out a dude.
Yeah, the ending was fired.
But Thanos won, bro.
Oh, yeah.
And they left us hanging for a year.
Yeah.
Thanos won, bro.
Okay, Jake Paul had a fight this weekend.
Did you watch the fight?
I definitely ordered it.
Yeah, same hour as well.
Great fight.
Yeah, it really was.
Fantastic fight.
It was a good fight, but you know what's so interesting?
Did you watch it?
Yeah, I saw clips, but it looked like a lot of sloppy boxing.
No, it was a great, and it was like Tommy.
I mean, Tommy Fury's not a great boxer either.
Yeah, like neither of them.
Bro, both of them showed excellent boxing IQ and then started to make changes in real time.
Not Jake, not Jake so much.
No, but Jake did.
The thing is that Tommy had a fucking chin on him.
So what happened is Tommy starts peppering Jake with his jab.
Tommy's got like these really long arms.
Like if you look at what's it Tyson as well, he's got these like freakishly long arms.
So Tommy was doing this thing, and this is the most difficult thing for Jake.
Jake has like the nuclear bomb is his big overhand right.
So what he does is too predictable in this fight though.
Oh my gosh.
Here's the thing.
In order to land that big overhand right, he needs somebody to throw a jab.
He needs to time the jab, slip it, and then come over.
So as but Tommy kept hitting him with that.
He kept hitting him with a jab.
So he was sitting and the arms are long enough that even when Jake did land, it was coming right before him or it hit his shoulder or whatever.
So all of a sudden, I saw that immediately.
I go, okay, this is going to be tricky.
Jake makes an adjustment.
Jake starts slipping that jab and then throwing these big left hooks and lands.
But Tommy had a fucking chin on him.
I think on that one where he caught him a couple times.
Tommy definitely got a chin, but I also think that Tommy moving naturally as a boxer fucked Jake up.
Yes.
Because Jake's not used to being in the ring with people who actually move.
And the distance that he kept.
So like that boxing distance, maintaining that distance, staying right outside of the range, knowing when to come in.
When you're a kickboxer, like when you're going up against guys who traditionally train in Muay Thai or kickboxing, there isn't movement.
You stand kind of right in front of one another and then you kick, they kick.
It's like sock and bop them in a lot of ways.
And it's not to say that they aren't skilled, but it's just a different style of engagement.
So when Jake is going up against a guy like that who's going to stand in front of him, he can literally fucking big right hand up.
When you're fighting NBA players and former MMA fighters, you don't know how to move like a boxer in the ring.
Jake clearly beat Anderson Silva.
Now here's the thing.
Anderson's not a boxer.
But he has.
He's had eight fights or something like that.
He's sweet science, man.
Point is, I think this is the best thing to happen to Jake.
Why?
I don't.
I'll explain why.
His stock was too high for the money fights.
The money fights for Jake, in my opinion, are not fighting real boxers.
The money fights for Jake are fighting celebrities.
Oh, I agree.
So when he beat Anderson Silva and convincingly and dropped him, after that, I go, I don't think KSI can beat him.
And KSI is the big money fight.
Him losing to Tommy, who's a boxer, but he's not a fucking top-ranked boxer by any means.
So him losing to Tommy makes all the other celebrities that also box go, oh, I might be able to beat that motherfucker.
Stay in your lane, Jake.
Fight the celebrities.
I already told you.
Celebrities or the MMA guys.
So I look at this and I go, okay, if he beats Tommy, if I'm KSI, I'm going, I'm not fighting this motherfucker.
This guy's a legit, amazing fucking boxer.
He'd just beat a guy who's dedicated his life to boxing, okay?
Yeah, sort of.
No, Tommy's boxed his whole life.
Yeah, but I grew up in a box.
Now he was a reality star.
You can be a reality star.
You're going to win also.
Lake Flassett or some shit like that.
I don't know.
Love Island.
Lake Flassett.
This is hilarious.
But so I guess what I'm saying is like you take him, you take a guy like Jake, and now you go, even when Jake beat Anderson Silva and convincingly, I was like, I don't think Nate Diaz can beat Jake.
I think Jake has these MMA fighters numbers.
I don't think that that's actually a good fight.
Now that he lost to Tommy, I started going, ooh, this Nate fight is interesting.
This KSI fight is interesting.
And those are the lucrative fights for Jammy.
You're saying if he beat Fury, he would have gone from a celebrity who boxes to a boxer in our eyes.
Yeah, because he finally beat a real boxer.
And then he'd make real money off.
It's like, I'm not fighting him.
And then he could only fight real boxers, and then he'd have harder fights for less money.
So he'd have to fight.
He'd have to fight up.
I think he'd still beat a draw.
He'd still, he's still generating mad money.
The draw for Jake is to watch him lose.
It's very similar to Mayweather.
He's positioned himself as a heel.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's an incredibly difficult thing to do emotionally.
Like you're just dealing with hate non-fucking stop.
Like his like resilience emotionally to handling this.
Like I love the way he lost.
Bro, he owned that shit.
He said judgment by the way.
Now, don't get me wrong.
He did throw out a couple of ailments.
You know what I mean?
He was like, oh, I got a hurt arm and I was something else.
He named like three things, but I'm like, for the most part, he was like, don't judge me by a lot.
I like the way he handled it.
I'm just like, career-wise, making money-wise, this is the best thing.
I don't need to see a rematch with Tommy.
Like, I don't care about it.
Nah, I know he might care about for ego, but I don't care about what I want to see him do is fight KSI or Nate Diaz.
You beat KSI, then you fight Nate Diaz.
You beat Nate Diaz, you rematch Tommy.
And ideally, Tommy has kind of like increased his profile by having other legitimate boxing fights as well.
You got one more big one there.
And it's not like he got his ass kicked.
You know what I mean?
He went eight rounds.
He dropped him.
You know what I mean?
He just got outboxed.
Yes.
But that's not boxed.
That's it.
That's why I feel like there's nothing.
Any basic boxer can beat Jake Paul.
Well, that's so that's what that's what they're going to claim, right?
That's what I think.
I believe that.
And it's reasonable to think it, but that's what they're going to claim.
They're going to claim, okay, he finally fought a boxer and someone who's skilled in boxing specifically, not MMA, but boxing, is going to be able to beat him.
Every time.
And that's what they'll probably say, right?
But in my mind, it's like, you're in this for money, right?
You're not in this to prove that you're a fucking boxer.
It depends.
If his goal is to be a great boxer, which he said that's his goal, then it impacts his overall.
I think the more you win, the more you think is possible, as you should.
So as he's beating all these MMA guys, he's like, yo, I think he ought to take a boxer.
Maybe this was God's way of being like, bro, save your brain and just go fight KSI.
Go fight celebrities.
You're too late in this boxing thing.
What I hated is like all the, and it finally dawned on me why they were riding for him so hard.
Like Sean Porter was really riding for Jake Paul.
Yeah.
But it's because they're both from Ohio.
You know what I mean?
But they kept saying things like, he's finally out of Tyson Fury's shadow.
No, you're not, Tommy.
Tyson Fury is the heavyweight champion of the fucking world.
This man has been in the ring fighting wars.
Okay.
You beat Jake Paul.
You're still in your brother's shadow.
And that's fine.
That's a great shadow to be in.
Like, you have to be like, you'd have to do triple what Tyson Fury has done in his boxing career.
You got to get out of that shadow.
It's not bad to be in the shadow of arguably the greatest heavyweight ever.
Come on.
Yeah.
I got to get knocked out by the hardest puncher in the world multiple times and walked down.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
And got up.
And then the next two fights wasn't even close.
Third fight was more decent than the second fight.
But come on.
Like, stop.
Are they full brothers?
I think it's nothing like that.
Yeah, I think it's wonderful.
I think the father got another.
Gotcha.
I think.
Tommy was in good shape.
I'm assuming, but yeah, it makes sense.
Tommy was in good shape, yo.
Yeah.
I'm like, as soon as I'm like, oh, Tommy's going to beat Jake Paul.
Yeah, that first round.
I didn't think it was going to be a dock out, but I just like, yo, he's going to be Jake Paul.
I don't know if this applies, but I remembered one thing Andrew said about Anthony Joshua.
All those big muscles get you worn out quicker because they take a lot and need a lot of oxygen.
And Tommy has some big motherfucking muscles.
Anthony Joshua was never that good.
I told y'all this a million times.
Nice guy.
Great guy.
I've never believed in Anthony Joshua as a fighter ever.
I believe that at the time, I feel like every even before he got to USIX, you know, and what's the other dude who beat him?
Can't even remember his name now.
Anthony Ruiz.
Oh, yeah, Andy Ruiz.
Andy Ruiz.
Before that, I thought Deontay would have beat Anthony Joshua.
I thought Ortiz would have beat Anthony Joshua.
Tyson Fury, come on, guys.
Yeah, it's not even close.
Come on.
Die in close.
Come on.
You wouldn't even want that.
Why did they have a smaller ring?
What was the purpose of that?
I don't know who wanted that.
Tommy.
Tommy wanted it.
Tommy wanted it.
That's really interesting because I think that actually benefits Jake.
Because Jake's not a dancer.
Jake is coming straight forward.
He's coming at you.
He wants to engage.
So Tommy is more of like a boxer.
So you would think that he would want more room so he could dance.
But if he wanted the smaller ring, it means he wants to get in there and bang.
Right.
You know, what I hated about the fight was the fucking referee trying to be the MVP.
I hated the attention.
Bro, is Amma?
You know you're fighting two people that don't have that much experience.
Why are you like, let them go a little bit?
I thought that neither one of them did anything that was flagrant.
Like, yes, maybe there was some leaning.
Yes, there was some holding, but no more than you would see in every just break him up, don't take away the point.
Yeah, that was too much stupid.
And it did it for both of them, so I guess it evened out.
But like, I hate a referee that like makes it about them.
I think that was a makeup deduction.
I think Jake did up in Jake's point, and then he was like, But are you deducting anything from them?
Let them bang out.
Like, who gives a fuck?
I thought the fight was great.
I thought it was a really great fight.
You gotta watch it.
Yeah, I gotta say this.
I have not been disappointed by Jake Paul.
Because they both made adjustments.
Like, Jake was getting caught with a jab, and all of a sudden, Jake started to stick this long jab, and then he started catching Tommy, right?
And then Tommy made this adjustment where he noticed that Jake was really like ducking when he would throw the jab.
So Tommy would throw this uppercut as Jake would duck.
And it was like, I was seeing like really high IQ boxing.
It's hard to go in there and worry about getting your fucking head caved in while also going, okay, he's doing this thing.
I'm going to change my game plan and do that thing on the fly.
And they both did it.
Jake got a lot of Mexican in him, bro.
He does.
I'm serious.
Like, because I watched the last fight, last fight he got winded.
Who was the last fight?
Silver, right?
Yeah.
You could tell he got tired, but he gets better.
But he was as the fight goes on.
Like, it's almost like he gets stronger and he'd be looking like red, hair all over the place, but he just don't stop working, bro.
He's a dog.
Yo, Jake's a dog.
He's a Mexican.
He got a lot of Mexican fight in him, yo.
He do.
A lot of Mexican fight in him, yo.
Canelo will knock him the fuck out, though.
Canelo will knock him the fuck out.
Yeah, I don't think he wants to fight.
No, no, leave that alone.
Leave that alone.
Yeah, yeah.
But we don't want to see that.
Like, I want to see the KSI fight.
That has so much buildup already.
I think they fought already.
No, no, no.
KSI fought Logan twice.
Oh, okay.
So this is the get back.
And I think that KSI watches that.
And now maybe it brings Jake back to reality a little bit.
Whereas before, after that Silver fight, if I'm KSI, I'm going, I focus, I do 10 other fucking projects.
This is a part-time gig for me.
And this guy's dedicated full-time to fucking boxing.
I can't compete with that.
But maybe now.
I think Tyson Fury should fight Logan.
Bro.
Oh, dude.
Come on, bro.
No, no.
I do.
In WWE.
No, no.
I think they should just box.
No, Tyson Fighter.
Logan was talking spicy, yo.
That was kind of wild.
That's what I'm saying.
Logan was talking spicy about the family, yo.
What did he say about the family?
I think he said, Tommy, if you can hear me, you're a bitch.
Your whole family is bitches.
That's right.
That was wild.
Give Logan a title shot.
That's a professional fight.
Give Logan a title shot.
By the way, I just told y'all to pot to Creed 3.
Give the guy who's only had one fight.
No fights, actually.
We don't know one fight, a title shot.
Well, no, no fights.
Give a guy a title shot.
Why did he get the title shot?
I don't want to give it all that away.
But yeah, when you look at it, it kind of makes sense.
Like, it could happen.
But he's also maybe a little corny.
Like, if you're a fan of boxing, you're like, yo, that would never happen.
That wouldn't happen.
But maybe it could if you are the promoter.
Gotcha.
You know what I'm saying?
So Tyson Fury could say, y'all want to fight Logan Paul.
It's a big money fight.
I mean, that's also the plot of Creed, too, to be fair.
This guy in Russia, this promoter is like, let's make that fight happen.
That's Drago sign.
Yeah.
It's a big money fight.
Come on, Tyson and Logan will be amazing.
Oh, no, it would be huge.
It made crazy, crazy money.
But I mean, Tyson's going to absolutely wall.
I mean, we know this.
Yeah, Logan might die.
Yeah.
Like, literally.
No, I think Tyson, he wouldn't.
He'll go halfway.
He wouldn't try to kill him.
Sonny's huge.
But he could kill him.
He could kill him if he wanted to kill him.
No.
It's a choice.
I don't want to be in the ring with someone that's going halfway just so I don't die.
Russian one shot.
Logan might have said it knowing this guy's not going to kill me.
I'm too small.
It's too easy.
I don't think Tyson would kill him.
Tyson would know.
Tyson would fuck him up, but he would know not to like, I'm not going to kill you.
He might just knock him out with body shots or some shit like that.
Like Tyson has that IQ, but I don't want to watch that fight either.
Really?
I don't want to watch someone take it easy.
Right?
Damn.
We're watching it for carnage, right?
No.
I don't want to see Logan die.
I like Logan.
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Not die.
Yeah.
But I don't want to see, I don't want to see anybody die, but I want to see two fighters going at it.
What I liked about the Tommy Jake fight is they were both going at it.
Logan to Floyd was cool because it's one has a crazy height advantage and everything was trying to get Logan out of here.
Floyd was trying to get Logan.
And then Logan was trying to get Floyd out of here.
It was fun.
It was great.
Yeah, Y'all would love to see Logan Tyson, bro.
Come on.
I would see it.
Now, come on.
That's a fight, bro.
I would see it.
I wouldn't want to see Logan tight Tyson.
Oh, nah.
I don't want to see it.
Yeah.
That could be fun.
Holy shit.
Logan Mike Tyson?
No, it doesn't.
Not even.
Yo.
Logan wins that.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Yeah, I love Mike.
Mike, come on, man.
At some point, come on.
Father Time got to kick in, bro.
Nah, come on.
You don't want that.
Stop.
Stop.
55, 56, probably.
Nah, Mike got to be in his 60s.
How old is Mike Tyson?
Did you see Mike with Roy Jones?
That's Roy Jones, another senior citizen.
Yeah, but Mike was doing his state.
He's 56 years old.
Nah, you don't want that.
He's doing his thing.
Nah, man.
The numbers for the pay-per-view aren't out, but how many do you think they sold?
If you had to guess, Jake Paul?
Yeah.
It's not going to be crazy because at the time it was on.
Oh, really?
I think you still had to be a fight fan to know Jake Paul was fighting at 2 o'clock.
What are you thinking?
400,000?
I don't know if it's that much.
I could be wrong.
I don't know.
I mean, a couple hundred reference.
I'll give it a couple hundred.
Yeah, I'll pull up like what Jake and Silva was 200 to 300 KC-VIS.
Yeah.
I think that this might go over because I think Tommy's pretty popular in England.
I love Island.
And just the fight family being connected.
Yeah.
I think, yeah.
Great promo from a fight family.
Yeah, I don't know how much promo Silva did.
Yeah.
And just the fact that this was going on for two years, getting picked and canceled and whatever.
It was really interesting, though, the Tommy Fury, Tommy Fury talking about what he went through.
And he had pulled out of the fight twice.
So he's like, I'm walking out of my home and everybody is just calling me a pussy.
I'm afraid of fighting Jake Paul.
Like it was just this emotional release finally meeting the guy.
And I do understand that.
You build your whole identity as this fighter and you're part of a fight family.
And the fight family is known for being brave, taking on all Trump.
Your last name is Fury.
Literally.
Last name's after Fury.
Your brother's first name is Tyson.
This is it.
This is a movie.
I'm like, oh, this is hacky.
Tyson Floyd.
Tyson Fury.
And there was shit out of his control.
Like, there was shit out of his fucking control.
Basically, him not being able to come to the States.
Like, there was some mob shit, basically, why he couldn't come to the States.
Now, not saying he's connected, but America wanted to know if he was.
And sometimes in those types of situations, it's better to not talk.
I think Jake Paul wins that fight two years ago.
Ooh.
Who knew?
I would push back because I think Jake Paul's improved as a boxer.
And Tommy improved as a boxer.
Yeah, but I think Jake, this amount of time, Tommy's in Bachiness as a child.
Jake, every year that he gets to fight is adding like a huge level of experience because he started so late.
He's got to fight real boxes, though.
Even if you're just sparring real boxers.
He does.
He spars like really good guys.
He does?
Yeah, like legit fucking guys.
He can't look like it against Tommy Fury.
He's like, he's never been in the ring with somebody moving around like that.
That's what I looked at.
I hear what you're saying.
What do you think of this mentally?
I noticed when he was going to fight Tommy the first time, Tommy was a favorite.
Then Tommy pulled out and everybody's like, yo, I think Jake might be the favorite.
I think Tommy might be scared.
This is the first time he's fighting really as a favorite in my estimation.
Do you think that fucked with him mentally to not be the underdog and not have that chip on your shoulder?
Interesting.
Yeah, baby.
Interesting.
Yeah, I think it helps psychologically if you feel like you got something to prove.
You want to go because I felt worried for him just off of that going in.
It felt different this time.
I'd never seen him as, and it's a real boxer, but then you're the favorite against a real boxer.
It just felt like a lot of pressures on you.
I picked him to lose.
I knew you were going to lose.
Who?
Jake Paul.
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Really?
100%.
Well, that's because you have a lot of faith in boxing.
That's it.
Watson is a sweet science, baby.
And if you know how to do that shit a little bit, you will beat somebody who doesn't know how to do it at all.
Did you see Port Noise thing?
What did he say?
He's like, if Tommy Fury beats Jake Paul, I'll never speak on combat sports ever again in my life.
I've never been so sure of something ever.
Like before the fight.
And then he apologized afterwards.
He's like, guys, I'm an idiot.
My bad.
He's sold this company before he had that shit.
But no, he probably is saying that because him and Logan are like, isn't Logan Barstool?
Yeah.
Yeah, come on, man.
He's wearing a barstool hat.
Yeah.
But he puts such a big, so much faith in it.
He's like, I've never been so sure of something.
I was like, that's funny.
Wow.
Yeah.
It made me think.
But do a real bet.
Suck some dick.
Everybody, like, fuck money.
He can lose amount of money.
Do you really believe it?
Put your lips down.
Word is born.
No.
He was right.
No, I was right.
I didn't have to honor it.
But bet suck some dick.
Yo.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, everybody always want to bet your dick.
They can afford to lose.
You can't afford to lose with money.
You can't afford to lose a fucking dick.
That's what I'm saying.
If you're so confident.
Let me see how confident you are, yo.
What's your bet on Kanye getting back with Adidas?
You think that happens?
Suck some dick.
Again, suck.
Again?
Again?
Stop putting your lips on it.
Stop.
That's how sure I am.
If Kanye gets back with Adidas, you suck some dips.
It's not happening, yo.
Neither one of those things are happening.
So I'm confident with that bet.
Really?
It's not happening.
Now that they'll get back with Adidas, what if they just come to an agreement to sell the existing backstock?
Well, that's different.
How's that different?
Even though I've seen that story, but I don't believe that story.
Let's make a bet about that.
They come to an agreement to sell the existing backstock.
If they do that, will you get your lips on it?
I don't think Adidas risk their overall brand doing something like that.
Son, they took too big of a loss.
Why do y'all keep saying that?
Will they losing money on Beyoncé?
This is a company that makes $20 plus billion dollars a year in revenue.
Not saying that a billion dollars isn't a loss, but y'all make it seem like Adidas is going under.
Do y'all realize this company has been around for hundreds of years?
No, I didn't know that.
Hundreds?
I don't know about hundreds.
At least 100.
I don't think so.
Look it up.
All right, let's see.
Founded by Nazis.
Put your lips on it, Tony.
Put your lips on it.
Put your lips on.
Founded by Nazis.
If it's founded by Nazis, it can't be.
I don't think you know how Nazis.
1949.
Do the math.
I don't fuck with that.
That's 100 years.
Wow, you're right.
That's what I'm saying.
20 billion plus revenue a year.
20 years.
How much?
They make over 20 billion a year in revenue.
They make over 20 billion a year in revenue.
You know what your problem is?
What's my problem?
You believe in Kanye West too fucking bad.
I'm telling you.
He believes in him so goddamn much.
And I can't wait when he's back and you're going to be wrong and you're going to have to suck some dips.
Adidas is not going to do that.
First of all, why would a company that's making $20 billion in revenue risk bringing in one guy, one guy that's going to probably ostracize so many people away from your brand?
Why would you do that?
What if football, soccer, fight for them say, you know what?
Y'all in business with Kanye.
We don't want nothing to do with y'all.
FIFA.
Whatever the fucker.
He said, DeFi, PoFum, whatever the fuck.
What if they say, oh, y'all in business with Kanye?
We don't want to be in business with y'all.
Now you're talking about losing some goddamn revenue.
Yep.
Now you're dealing with a partner that walked away.
And Kanye's not going to shut the fuck up.
No.
To make you self-defense, yeah.
I think he learned from this.
No, he never learned in his life, Al.
Man, where's the atonement?
Where's the atonement?
He's shutting up.
Where's the dick sucking?
You got to suck some goddamn dick.
Circumcised dick.
Yeah.
So, so.
Is that the price that he has to pay?
Is that the price he has to pay?
Is that what you're saying?
That Kanye should.
Bro, I think Kanye is no different than the dude from Dilbert, Scott Adams.
Okay, talk to him.
Stop volunteering your feelings about marginalized communities.
Nobody fucking asked you, bro.
Scott Adams wanted to go DEF CON three on black people.
Kanye went DEF CON 3 on Jewish people and for what?
Why?
Let's look at the Dilbert situation.
I mean, they're down 37%.
But it's been like that.
This isn't May 2022, though.
Kanye's been like that.
Y'all don't be paying attention.
This shit happened.
This shit had to do with China, the Ukraine-Russia shit.
Yeah.
Because they pulled out of Russia because of the war.
When did the Kanye shit drop?
I think it was like November.
Last year?
November.
The bottom is November.
That's when they still had Kanye.
But this shit has been happening.
Adidas stock has been going down for like the last two years.
And it's been going up and down like most stocks do.
Oh no.
They had to pull out.
They pulled out of Russia.
Russia was a big market for them.
And I think it's a lot of influx going on in Europe because of that whole Russia-Ukraine invasion.
Then it was something with China that had their stocks fucked up.
And it's not just them.
It's Nike too.
This is the most I've ever seen you know about geopolitics.
He's on sneakers aren't.
I don't know.
That's kind of crazy.
He's like the tracksuits in Russia.
The whole economy is fucked up with tracksuits.
But Nike stocks are down like 13% as well.
It's not just Adidas.
I don't know why y'all are attributing Adidas being down to Kanye.
I mean, I'm not saying that he's not a part of it, but he's not a large part of what's going on.
But he was responsible for a lot of their sales.
And now they are not getting those sales.
I think he was responsible for more of their profits than their revenue.
Well, you need revenue to make profits.
But their revenue is 20 billion a year.
Yeah, and he was responsible for some of it.
I think their overhead is so low with Yeezy.
You know what?
I don't know how much it costs to make a Yeezy, but I think their overhead is so low that him bringing in a projected $1.3 billion is a lot.
I mean, I don't know how much it costs to make Yeezys.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's...
Still, even if it's $1.3 billion, right?
What is that, 5%, 6%?
I think they said he was...
Of their total revenue?
I think it was like 7%, 6% to 7 or something like that.
Okay.
Yeah, 8%.
Take a hit.
How much?
8%.
They're saying that Yeezy generated $1.7 billion in annual revenue, which is 8% of the total.
And the net profit on that's $246 million.
Either case, I'm going to write this off.
Think about the big number.
They might donate all the backstock to kids in Africa.
And then all those kids will be looking fly as hell.
So I see, I think there's actually an upside to this.
Give it to the kids in Ukraine.
China is actually helping give kids in Africa cool sneakers.
Give it to Ukraine.
Give it to the kids in Ukraine.
Donate it to Ukraine, actually.
That's good.
So what happened with Dilbert?
All right, so this is a comic.
If you've never seen a Dilbert comic, you probably have.
They're super popular fucking comics.
And he just goes on.
I think he's on like a podcast.
I don't know.
He's doing some type of internet interview.
I think he was just live, bro.
It's his own thing.
It's his own thing.
He has a YouTube channel, like 100,000 subscribers, 118,000 or something.
I think he just hit live, bro.
Yeah, he's just talking about himself.
It's like two minutes.
We can skip around, but it gets pretty good.
So if nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll, not according to me, that's a hate group.
And I don't want to have anything to do with them.
The best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people.
Get the fuck away.
Do you know he started this off by saying he identifies as a black person?
Y'all missed that.
Y'all buried the lead.
He literally said, I identify as a black person and I've identified as a black person for a while now.
But he was like, now, because of this poll, it's a poll that came out that said, like, black people, I don't know.
I don't know what the exact poll is.
Black people don't like white people or something.
And so he was like, now, since half of these people don't like me, they're a hate group and I don't want to be a part of it.
But if he's black, they...
And he said you don't want to be a part of that hate group.
He feels like black people are the hate group because the poll says like 50% or 60% of all black people don't like white people.
Oh, as a black person, he doesn't want to be part of the black group.
Exactly.
So even though he's black, he just wants to get away from black people.
That's what he said.
No, he said he's re-he actually said, I'm re-identifying back as white, and I don't want to be a part of this hate group.
Is that really part of this?
I heard it this morning.
Oh, I didn't see it that part.
Scott Adams.
So is this maybe just like a bit?
That's a bad bit, bro.
Why would I do a bit that's going to cost you everything?
Because if he's saying, oh, I'm black, and now it's like, I can say whatever I want now.
Well, yeah, if you identify as black, you can be critical of black people.
That's kind of what he's doing.
He's asking for the permission to slip.
But he said he used to identify as black, then re-identified as white, and then went on that ring.
Now, why is he saying he's doing that?
He goes, I identify as a black man.
Then I found out that my people are hateful.
I can't identify as that.
And then he tries to quote Don Lemon.
He's like, I'm just getting this from Don Lemon.
Yes.
I just want to know why.
Like, what makes you wake up in the morning and say, I'm going to set fire to everything I've built?
Crazy.
Same thing with Kanye.
It's like, why?
That's corny, bro.
But Scott Adams, this is corny.
Like, why?
There's a thing that happens with these cartoon creators.
And Patrice talked about this with Seth McFarlane.
It's like, you get jealous of your creation and you start wanting credit.
And this is maybe his, like, finally, Dilbert gets all these all this credit.
Everybody reads it.
Nobody knows who this man is.
25 years.
He has a great life.
What is what is Dilbert, bro?
He's a goddamn white character with no mouth.
He's like, he doesn't get no head from Dilbert, bro.
He's like an office employee.
It's like office-based type shit.
Yeah, this is like the first office.
It was like a comic strip in the 80s, 90s that was like...
You look like a Simpson with Down syndrome, bro.
Like, that could be Bart's.
That's Bart's brother.
They keep tucked away.
He looks like.
They don't want nobody to know about Bart.
I wish he was.
I really wish he just did it as a comic strip.
Like, if he just did, like, hey, we got to get away from black people, but just as like a cartoon.
I feel like it'd be a lot more palatable.
But this is what he does.
This is what he's known for.
Yeah, that's a great point.
By the way, there's no better way to get your message across than art.
That could have been a funny series of scripts.
Dilbert trying to be an ally and realizing like, man, I can't win with anybody.
Like, that would have been funny as shit.
Yeah, Dilbert should identify as black.
Yeah, Dilbert's in a dashiki.
Yes, I'm transracial now.
So now you're making fun of all of this shit, right?
Like how you can just identify what you want to identify as.
Yes.
He got out of his lane.
That's the issue.
That could be hilarious.
If you want to be kind of racist, do it in your thing.
Yes.
You know?
That would be fucking hilarious.
But I think in the past, you said you prefer people being overtly racist.
So you know, like, who to stay away from?
No, I prefer it, but why would I do it?
I prefer it, but why would I do that if I'm him?
Like, what reason do you think it's funny, bro?
This is what happens when you get all the money you need.
Like, he doesn't need more money, so he's okay to lose it.
And damn, he's really losing his mind.
He's either losing his mind or he doesn't need more money.
And yeah, the only thing he needs is to not be around as many black people.
And he's just sharing that.
Can't you do that with money, though?
That's my point.
Segregate.
It's all about class.
Segregation in the nuke segregation is just.
He already said he's in a new neighborhood with no blue.
Yeah, so if you've achieved it, why do you need a share?
I'm assuming it's the J.K. Rowan thing.
It's like you see something that's happening in society.
Like he's mentioned another clip.
I can pull it up.
But basically, he was like, every day I go on social media and I see black people beating up white people and I'm over it.
I'm sick of it.
So I'm assuming he's seeing something that he thinks is an injustice.
No one's talking about it.
He's like, you know what?
I'm going to speak about this.
What did JK do?
She just spoke up about the trans stuff.
She felt like her womanhood was being threatened.
Yeah, and she's like all about it.
She tweets.
She's like, you know, women are women and trans women are not women, blah, blah, blah.
And she's just ahead of her time.
Because a lot of people are feeling that way now.
A lot of people are pushing back on.
People look at her and they're like, you have a billion dollars.
You live an amazing life.
Why would you sacrifice your whole reputation, your whole legacy, all this shit you made for just an opinion that you have that you're not even going to be here to see because I'm with you.
That's my point with these people like this.
Like, why?
I prefer that.
If you feel that way, let me know you feel that way.
I don't want him to feel that way.
He's not disagreeing with you.
He's just saying from Dilbert's point of view.
Exactly.
Why would you speak this up?
Like, what do you have to gain?
You still want to make more money.
You got enough money.
He don't.
He don't.
This is what happens when you make all the money.
You're willing to just say whatever the fuck.
Why make fuck you money if you're not going to be able to do it?
But you burnt your legacy down.
He don't care.
Jesus Christ.
His legacy is a cartoon with no mouth.
I think he also has no legacy.
I think he knows that he's a family.
He thinks he's John Gilbert.
Wait, what?
I think he looks at this and he's like, there's an injustice happening in America.
Black people are being up white people and no one's saying anything.
I'm going to be the one to stand on it.
And in 50 years, people go, yeah, that guy was right.
There's a lot of marginalized communities in this country, right?
If you're a marginalized, if you're a black, hold on a second.
You may not be part of a hate group.
Yeah, yeah.
But there's a lot of things to hate.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of racial injustice that you can hate in this country.
There's a lot of systemic racism that we all should hate if you call yourself an American.
100%.
I just want to go back to something that Mark said.
I think what happens is when people get incredibly famous for doing inconsequential shit, they try to project that fame onto something that they deem more important.
So if you're known as like a cartoonist that makes silly jokes about the office, yeah, what can I do that has significance?
What can I do that makes change?
What can I do that is, you know, gonna right the world?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
So I get politically active in either direction.
Exactly.
So I think that's kind of what he's doing.
He's like making up for the fact that like what he's known for is kind of frivolous.
But it's okay to be known for something frivolous.
It's beautiful.
Yeah, it's not even political.
This is just racist.
Exactly.
This is white nationalist neo-Nazi talking points.
That's my point.
I think you separate people that do racism.
You get away from black people.
I think people that do racist shit are not thinking, oh, I'm ruining my legacy.
I think they're doing it because they're preserving their legacy or they're making a new legacy that they think is good.
They want to make a new one.
They're not preserving it.
I don't think we need to disclaim.
That's an important thing.
I don't think we need to disclaim that this is racist.
But my point is that racist people do things because of their legacy, not to destroy it.
You know what's funny?
He doesn't think it's racist.
That's my point.
He doesn't think it's data.
That's my point.
Yeah, Exactly.
He thinks he's doing something good for his legacy.
This is like, to him, he's like.
It's just a poll.
Who did he poll?
No, this is it.
This is like, this is his like ice bath.
You know, the people that get in the ice bath, they're like, it's changed my life.
Like, he's like, you move away from black people.
It's fucking awesome.
A fucking poll changed your life now.
He's been going that way.
And now he's, and then maybe even it's when you get enough money, you don't stop caring what people think.
Now you start thinking, okay, I got the money.
Now legacy.
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
If you were known for something frivolous, people want to do something more.
Because I think they go, oh, once I get money, they don't be happy.
And then they get money and they're still not happy.
And they're like, oh, once I get legacy, they'll be happy.
Once people respect me.
People don't respect me.
This is this guy, the Dilbert guy, going, I'm really smart and I'm thoughtful and I understand the world and I'm sophisticated.
And people think I'm just a little silly cartoonist comedian.
I need to prove that I'm a sophisticated thinker.
And it's just, it's never enough.
It's just a bottomless pit.
Yeah, I'm sick of white grievance.
You know what I mean?
Especially when white grievance is towards.
But everybody, it's the same shit with fucking Kyrie.
Kyrie is the same exact thing as this guy.
It's like, it's not good enough that he's just great at basketball and genius at basketball.
It's like, I need to be a philosopher.
I need to be a thinker.
I agree, but Kyrie's still black.
So being that he's black, like there's actual room for real grief there.
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I see.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you're a white male like that, like your grievance is just the fact that black people are complaining about this country.
Everybody got their own grief, bro.
I wouldn't take away grief from people.
It's like, also, you don't know what somebody's family is going through.
You don't know what somebody is doing.
It just feels like grievance, though.
Like, the stuff that he's doing, this is just like white grievance.
Yeah, none of this makes sense.
Yeah.
What I'm just saying is just because you're a white dude doesn't mean that you haven't been fucking molested.
It doesn't mean that you haven't seen your dad get shot.
You're like, there's a lot of things that.
But those are things we can relate on.
Those are things we can all relate to, right?
Like if America's issues were just based on shit like that, it'd be different.
But when America's issues are based on what we are that we have no control of, like me being black or, you know, Alex being gay or like, you know what I mean?
A college being Bash.
You want to be so.
No, I'm just saying.
Like, I'm just saying there's things that we can't control.
And like, that hinders certain people in America.
And deep, those people just don't want that to be anywhere.
But I will say there's room, I think, for white grievance.
Like in fucking trains in Ohio, I'm assuming that's a white town that is just.
I don't think that's white grievance.
That's America.
Bailed us.
I know.
I understand what you're saying.
It's like there is like a historical implication for the treatment of black people.
So no grievance exists.
Why does that have anything to do with the world being flat?
I don't know.
That was Kyrie's first shit.
Is the world is flat.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
It's just like, I need to prove to everybody that I'm not just a guy who plays basketball and dumb fucking sport.
I'm smarter than that.
And here's the proof.
Yeah.
And I'm smarter than everyone because I'm on the shit that no one.
Nobody understands.
And that's what, and listen, it is what you spoke to earlier, what Patrice was talking about.
It's like you become jealous of your creation and you don't think that your creation does justice to your intellect.
So you need to prove how smart you are.
It's like, I think Kanye is a better example than Kyrie.
Kanye's perfect damage.
Yeah, because Kyrie didn't even tell us what the issue was.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he just posted that book with no context.
And I guess he told us later he's, you know, finding himself and yada, yada, yada.
But Kanye was on some like, no, I want to be like this group of people.
Yeah.
This group of people gets to basically do whatever they want.
This is just his words.
They get to do whatever they want.
They get to move however they want.
And I'm jealous of that.
I want that.
So I'm going to shit on them.
You know what I mean?
To show my love for them, which is also quite strange.
No, he had the greatest comeback of anybody when he goes, he goes, I love Nazis.
And they go, you love Nazis.
And there's only one way to come back from that.
It's, I love everybody.
That's the only way.
The only way that you can justify saying the craziest thing ever.
That's why I love everybody is some bullshit.
Well, yeah, you don't love everybody.
No, it's not possible.
Even the Bible.
No, they got cool.
But he might love everybody.
He didn't love Pete.
Oh, he didn't love Pete.
He didn't love Pete.
What was your love for Pete?
He didn't love Pete.
Why didn't you love Pete?
Where was this love when you were shitting on Pete all the goddamn time?
Because you had to think of Pete's 10 and a half inch penis.
Damn.
Nobody wants to think about that shit.
How can you love the man with a 10 and a half inch penis?
I'm thinking about it right now.
Yeah, you might have added some, bro.
I know.
Last I heard it was Nazi.
You might have added some, bro.
None of the reports.
You're rounding up, man.
Do you know something you got insight in from?
No, I never got insight in for.
Sweet to my guy, Pete, though.
But still, that's a great point.
He just started loving everybody with the Nazis.
It's very convenient that you're starting loving the Nazis.
That don't work.
That don't work.
It's like the all-lives matter shit.
It's like, oh, everybody's lives matter.
That don't work.
Everybody's life matter until that person does something to your child.
Exactly.
But I mean, everybody's life matters.
All lives matter until that person does something to your mother.
All agree that all lives don't matter.
I think as a society, we agree on that.
Yes.
And some people show that in general.
Lives don't matter.
We take them out all the time.
Murderous lives.
If you kill a cop, we give you death penalties.
By the way, if all lives matter, people would everybody be against the death penalty.
Exactly.
And people are for the death penalty.
All lives do not matter.
Yeah.
I mean, we know this.
It's just a silly thing to even retort.
But instead of accepting the fact these people are saying black lives matter because this country has historically shown them that black lives matter less than a lot of other people.
Instead of just acknowledging that fact, all lives matter.
You don't believe that.
Most lives matter.
Some.
And it's all subjective.
Thanos over here.
More than 51% of lives matter.
I don't know, bro.
You don't think you got to go around?
I got to have more.
I don't know.
You think?
I just see where Thanos was coming from.
No, no, no.
I see it as well.
It was, yes.
Thanos should have been more selective, though.
I don't want you just randomly when he said at the end of an endgame, when he was like, the only mistake I made was everybody remembers who left.
When I do it this time, I'm going to make sure y'all forget and never knew they were here.
Oh, oh, oh, one of the greatest lines in movie history.
He says, he says, as long as there are people who knew what was, they'll never embrace what can be.
And he said, this time, I'm getting rid of all you motherfuckers.
That's basically what he said.
He learned to err in his way.
He's got a lot of memory, which is, then I was like, this guy got a great idea.
Yeah.
So you want to do random?
Nah, got to be selective.
What's your selection process?
A lot.
It'd be more like Frailty.
You ever seen Frailty?
No, no.
One of my favorite movies.
Y'all should all watch Frailty.
Frailty is about two brothers whose father is a serial killer.
But, see, I'll be giving the movie away.
But Frailty is such an old classic.
You should watch it anyway.
He's a serial killer, but the reason he's a serial killer is because he can touch you and see the foul shit that you've done.
Oh, that's fire.
You know what I'm saying?
So the people he's killing are actually child molesters, you know, people who've killed their moms and got away with it.
He's done.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
And so the other son can also see.
You know, he has the same vision.
So the whole movie, you're thinking these two motherfuckers are just crazy.
And this one son is the good son because he's not going along with it.
And then the son can't see the shit.
He just can't see the shit.
That's right.
So I would have to have something like that where I can actually see what people have done.
But then again, that's like defeating the whole purpose of God.
Because that's the other part of frailty.
That's when I think about it as I get older.
Frailty was about religion.
These people believed in God.
But then you're taking away the whole aspect of forgiveness like that, right?
Well, that God might not forgive.
And maybe God gave them the ability to see these things.
Taking away free will.
That's true.
That's true, too.
I mean, you know, we have all these conversations about forgiveness, but how do we know if God really forgives?
The Bible's showing us some things.
You know what I mean?
He flooded the earth.
That was Old Testament, right?
People like the day.
Come on, man.
LeBron James version.
How are you going to make a LeBron James version of the Bible?
If these things happen, they happen, bro.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't change history.
Like, why are you, how all of a sudden you change history to New Testament?
If the story was a story, how can I change it just because I don't like the way the story was originally written?
When he sent his son, that was it.
Now we're now we got it.
They killed his son.
Frailty, bro.
That was a wild, yo.
They killed his only son.
Think about that.
God sent his only begotten son to save a world that needed saving, and they killed him and sent him back to God.
Like, clearly, we don't want y'all help no more.
Damn.
Think about that.
And what was their punishment?
This.
We've been on our own ever since.
It's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
God has been ignoring us ever since.
Like, God, do y'all thing, man?
Y'all figure it out.
I mean, I don't know.
Is it that much of a punishment?
It seemed like they were getting punished way before.
Did God get jealous of his creation, bro?
Ooh.
Is God Dilbert?
Ooh.
I'm joking, bro.
I'm joking.
You gotta watch out.
Hypothesized.
That's wild.
Mark said, I'm joking.
I am joking.
He knows your heart.
He knows your heart.
Yeah, but I wonder.
I wonder with that, though.
Like, we, man killed.
What are you doing?
Take a couple years off, Mark.
They're going to be as crazy, though.
He's like, word at God.
Has the world gotten worse?
I mean that.
Like, if you look at Old Testament versus New.
Objectively better.
It's like with Japan and the nukes.
Is it?
It's like it just got better.
I don't know, bro.
It depends.
On life before, right?
Before we killed his son.
Are you talking about quality of life or piety?
He flooded it on purpose.
Quality of life.
Even though he flooded it on purpose.
One combo, one Kohler.
She flooded it on purpose, though.
You said that you said the flood, you were saying, you were saying that did life get better, but she flooded the earth on purpose.
What I'm saying is, God was punishing us way more before we killed this kid.
It's almost like we taught him a lesson.
It's like, yo.
How do we know what?
You're getting punished now.
You're a millionaire.
I'm just one person.
Like, think about the things that are happening all around the world.
Like, you had an earthquake that killed how many people?
Yeah.
But you just had a flood that killed everybody.
I don't know if they killed everybody.
What was it like?
Even the book said it.
Literally, that's what the book said.
If we're taking the book seriously.
That story is.
Now you're picking it.
I am.
That's LeBron James.
That story.
That story is.
That story is a little crazy.
Why is it crazy?
Animals?
Every animal.
You know what I'm saying?
Every animal that they knew back in the day was that it was 10.
If you lived in this two-mile area.
I'll be honest.
If they made a movie about it, you watched the shit out of that.
Three big animals on a boat floating around the ocean.
You would love that movie.
Them animals be getting fucked in this era, bro.
Why you look at me?
Why you look at me to co-sign your country, Ad.
You from the country, bro.
I'm from the sea.
There'll be a lot of sheep on that boat, bro.
All right, sheep.
All right.
That you talking to me.
That story just seems a little kind of...
I agree with the overall premise of it.
I think a dude brought his farm animals onto the boat, and then the story just got more and more exaggerated.
It got a little exaggerated.
They said if you knew the flood was coming, if you knew the flood was coming, boom, you put all the farm animals on.
Yeah.
And you don't.
God, you're.
Damn, look at them cheeks, bro.
You ever seen this?
Look at them sheep, bro.
Yeah, of course I do.
Come on, man.
It's my people.
My people figured this shit out.
That's Mark right there.
That's how Mark.
That's Jesus.
Who's the shepherd?
Jesus is the shepherd.
Jesus with the shepherd?
Well, not literally, yeah.
You know what's crazy?
Yo, it's a reason.
Why should your flock look like that?
It's the reason shepherds leave from behind.
Damn right.
You know what I'm saying?
Damn, right.
People don't ever think about that.
Come on, now.
You look at that.
This away.
This away.
That's distracting.
No, it is distracting.
You think Jesus only had 12 disciples?
You think they just caked up like that?
There's some side disciples for sure, though.
No, I believe in the story of the flood.
It just, you know.
A flood happened.
A flood definitely happened.
It happened.
I think the reasoning it happened happened.
You know, I just think some of the details got a little...
You know what I mean?
Yes, the details.
It's just the animal thing.
Like, you really gonna bring all the animals, bro?
He had.
But he also didn't have to bring the sea animals.
That's a good point.
Exactly.
So they didn't have to go on the boats.
Or the flying animals.
They were good.
So it's really only like a couple animals.
Giraffes.
I don't even think there was giraffes.
No, that was horse.
Horse became giraffe later.
Local land animals.
That's not that many.
Bro, it's what would you take with you if you knew the flood was coming?
That shit could have been food, though.
We don't think about that shit.
Yeah.
That shit could have been food.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I like that they say 40 days and 40 nights.
We know the nights are there, bro.
You don't got to say the nights.
He sounds way better though, God.
That shit only makes sense on vacation.
40 days.
It's like, I know.
It only makes sense on vacation.
When you're getting a little exclusive?
No, when they say like seven days, seven days, six nights.
You know what I mean?
Because you might fly out during the day.
That's the only time that shit makes sense.
That's actually a good point.
That makes sense.
All I'm trying to say is that God was punishing us.
I think God was like, Jesus, I think Jesus was bothering God.
I think he might have sent him down here.
It was like a scared straight.
You're grinding for 32 years.
He was probably complaining all the time, right?
And being a little pain in the ass up there.
And God was like, oh, we're going to see if you like it down there.
God probably was like, God probably was like, I'm telling you, there's no hope for them.
You know what I mean?
No, there's no hope for Jesus.
You're saying it was like a charter school.
Exactly.
He punished him.
It's like a little mermaid.
It's like, oh, you want, you think land is nice?
No.
What if Jesus was an ally?
You know what I'm saying?
Who was up, up?
You just go with my fucking ass.
I'm with that too.
God is like, he can't improve for shit.
What if Jesus was?
No allies.
No animals.
Jesus was an ally and he was up there and wanted to do something.
And God yes humans yeah, and he saw how he was a good white person, that's right.
He saw how our Mexican he was a healthy minority, clearly Mexican yeah, clearly Mexican.
100 name, hey Seuss, come on, carpenter.
Daddy was a carpenter, he was the carpenter.
His daddy was God Mom, easily fertile, you know.
I mean, come on, that motherfucker Mexican is that?
Hey Zeus bro only hey, go on.
So he's up, he's up there with God.
Yeah, he wants to do something.
God sends him down to this impossible task.
Yes, you know what I mean.
I'm with you.
You see what they did to Jesus yep, only to have to go back to God and for dad to say I told you.
Or for Mom to say I told you.
And now his dad's like you just gotta escape, get away.
Dad is like Gilbert yeah exactly, you just gotta get away.
You just gotta get away.
There's no hope for these.
And Jesus still came back, waiting.
Did he come back three days later?
Well, he was kind of still hanging with us.
He went to Hell and then came back.
Saw time, that was just a flex, yeah.
But when he came back, then what happened.
But that's when he went up.
That's why he just flew up.
That's when he became a mortal bro.
What do you mean?
That's why we wear him on chains.
Yeah, that's why he's the star of all the holidays.
I think Alex is asking mode of transportation back to heaven.
Yeah, I don't know what the literal vessel was.
I think he might have ascended electric car.
You think it was electric?
No, don't freak out.
The Lorean might have been the lorean.
Actually, I don't know.
I feel a little guilty talking about Jesus.
We not talking about Jesus.
We're trying to figure this out.
This is how the Bible was written.
Just like this, just like this.
He'd be the worst person.
Right, the bible.
You'd be the worst person.
That's why he's Jehovah's Witness.
Right, the Bible's a wild book.
Yo, Jehovah's witness.
Like the nation of Islam, of Christianity?
No, the Bible, Jehovah's Witness, is all Christianity.
It's all it's all based off.
No, but did you guys take your own thing and go with it?
Nah, it's literally all based off the bible.
Like literally yeah, like they take it all very literally.
They follow the bible to a team.
Why?
Why no birthdays?
Because there's something in the bible where something happened on somebody's birthday.
It's like a.
It's considered.
I don't want to say Pagan oh, I thought you just can't celebrate anyone except God makes bro donations or something.
It's like a lot of stuff.
It's like it's strict.
I just know Cain, Adam was the first man allegedly.
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Eve was the first woman allegedly.
They had Cain and Abel and then Cain killed Abel and went off and found a wife, yep.
And the bible just leaves that plot hole wide open.
They don't just, they don't even fill us in on what happened to count Adam's ribs.
Oh, it's only win with a rib, bro.
No, you make a.
What?
Yo you the worst improviser ever?
What you're the worst improviser ever?
He loves ribs.
I just only went way to a rib.
How did Adam make Eve, bro?
God made Eve.
No, y'all believe that.
Yo, son Jehovah's Witness, is crazy.
He's a crazy people in here bro, he's like I believe I believe the book.
I don't believe that was crazy, that's wild, bro.
You believe a figurine got off a tractor and was having society, but you don't believe this.
Adam could make Eve out of a rib, bro.
What is your fucking belief system?
You believe that you were a T-boat.
You believe you were T-Move for a little bit, bro.
And then he murdered the farmer.
That's crazy.
Yeah, you threw the farmer in the fire.
That's wild, yo.
You're wild.
Women are made out of ribs.
Yes.
That's crazy to think about.
What's so crazy about it?
It's just crazy to think about it.
Why is it crazy?
I'm surprised more women don't push back on that, yo.
You don't think that's a metaphor?
That's where objectification started.
Wait, why?
You made from a rib?
Yeah.
Like, not that God took his time with you to craft you like he did man.
He just took a goddamn rib.
We don't even care about ribs.
Oh, wow.
Women are actually made out of men.
We do care about men.
There's a lot of parts of our body that we care about more than ribs, bro.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
What if you took part of the dick and then made women?
That make more sense.
Men be kind of gay.
You think if women were made out of ribs, black people would eat them out more?
Whoa.
We eat pussy, bro.
What are you talking about?
Select groups of blacks.
Nah, that's not true.
That's not true.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a lie.
Yeah, they be lying their ass off.
Oh, bro.
Really?
Yeah, they be lying they ass off.
Really?
They be lying on some mafia shit on some Tony Safari shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, we don't talk about this, but.
But it happens.
It would make more sense if it was that they were made out of foreskin.
No, because you don't want to fuck dick.
Yeah, then it's gay.
Then if you bang a girl, it's actually a bad thing.
I mean, if you just planted your foreskin and then a woman grew, you're not going to fuck your dick.
Technically, if I was to take my penis right now and stick it in one of y'all ribs, cage, that would be extremely gay.
Technically, we're fucking ribs, bro.
Exactly.
Technically.
Stop everybody just saying something real.
She says, bro, technically.
He's like, who's going to yes stand with me right now?
Nobody's dope.
No, technically fucking ribs, bro.
No, no, no, no.
Yes, bro.
No, no.
You're fucking a man's rib.
Yeah, that's what a woman is.
Every woman comes from half man.
Did you know that?
Every woman is half man.
We're all half man, half woman.
Our wives are half men.
I noticed.
Half a million.
But that's why it misses it, right?
Because a woman can be half man, half woman.
A guy can be half man, half woman, and we just fuck each other.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So then maybe gender is a construct.
We're already half man.
Gender is definitely a construct just because of the words.
The words are named, like we made up the name of the word.
And woman's a construct of a rib.
A rib?
Yeah.
She's constructed.
Literally.
Dude, and imagine, bro.
Bro.
Dude, do you think that different ribs make different women?
Oh.
You think like the big ribs make me?
Girl, you big bones.
That's what big bones mean.
What does fucking the mick rib mean?
Dude, you bury a mick rib in the garden of even whatever that thing is in the garden of even.
What's the name of that?
Garden of Eden.
Bury a McRib in the Garden of Eden.
What happens then?
That's a bad bitch right there.
Bro, what comes out?
That's a Lori Harvey, right?
Bury a Mick Rib in the Garden of Eden.
That's a Lori Harvey.
You think that's a Lori Harvey?
What about a Bernice Burger?
Berger, that's what I was thinking, Bernice.
Bernice comes to the bottom of the business.
That's what I was thinking about, Bernice, bro.
Dude.
She still got it, too.
Hell yeah.
She ain't never lost it, bro.
Salute to Bernice.
They need to build a statue of Bernice in New Jersey, bro.
Do they?
Yes, man.
Really?
They need to build a statue of Bernice Burgos in New Jersey.
Yeah, they do.
Bernice won at life, bro.
Yeah, she did.
How many ribs do you think it took to make her?
I don't think that's one rib, bro.
You don't think so?
No, I think some of these women are made of multiple ribs.
Multiple man ribs.
Is it only human ribs?
Say again?
Only human ribs or like dinosaur ribs?
That doesn't count.
Ooh, no.
It was man ribs.
It was a human.
I think we got two ribs that we don't need.
There's like two hanging ones that you could take out and you don't need them.
And then you know what's crazy?
What can you do?
Maybe this is a metaphor for this.
What can you do once you take out your bottom rib?
Suck your own dick.
Maybe that's what God is.
Do you know what I mean?
Maybe.
Oh, God.
The woman is a metaphor.
Yeah.
I removed these to make somebody that could do that.
Yeah, yeah.
Women need to read the Bible.
Women need to read the Bible.
They do read the Bible.
They get married.
Yeah, that's facts.
I'm surprised more women don't push back on the we were just made out of ribs thing, though.
Why?
That sounds crazy.
We were made out of dirt.
That's not much better.
I'd rather be made out of ribs and dirt.
Yeah, but think about all the things that grow from dirt.
Nothing grows from ribs.
Everything grows from dirt.
Everything.
Yeah.
Strawberry.
Everything starts from dirt.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, nothing grows from ribs.
What about those two ribs that we don't need no more that Alex was just talking about?
I still want my ribs.
Yeah, I don't want to.
I don't want to be growing bitches.
You know what I mean?
My wife would be furious.
If I just suck hands and ribs, and then women are walking around my apartment.
That'd be a dangerous situation.
You can suck your own dick now.
How am I going to get any work done?
I'm so glad we can't do that.
Suck our own dicks?
That's crazy, yo.
You can't play the flute?
Nah, bro.
That's wild.
Like, I like masturbating, but sucking your own dick would be nuts, bro.
You would much rather your dad catch you masturbating and trying to suck your own.
That's crazy.
Would it be even worse?
You catching your dad.
He won't get anything.
Hey, you don't know what it's like being married.
Don't touch me.
Your mama don't do it no more.
Bro.
Walking in on your pad, sucking his own dick.
The mom just getting dressed like this, motherfucker.
Your dad calls you a one-man gay slur.
What's that?
Whoa.
What's that?
Huh?
Huh?
Nothing.
No, but what would that be?
You got to play football with your dad.
Be like, yeah, you're over here.
Yeah, I'm throwing you.
You're real.
Oh, my God, man.
You got mad at me watching TV one time.
You're over here sucking your own dick.
That's actually the thing that's interesting.
Jerking off is not gay, but sucking your own dick feels gay.
Jerking off and looking in the mirror is gay.
Bro, can I tell you something?
Can I tell you something?
That is.
That's wild.
Nah, he's on to something.
That's wild, bro.
He's on to something.
You're either an extreme narcissist or you are like gay.
No, but for real.
Jerking off in the mirror, that seems a little bit.
That's wild, bro.
You bugging.
You bugging.
You wilding?
Because you're just watching some dude jerk off.
And by the way, if that's, I'm not against it, but it is wild.
That's some like narcissist.
What about watching yourself have sex in the mirror?
That's not gay.
But you're watching a dude fang your wife.
You are watching yourself have sex.
I love mirrors when you're having sex, though.
Shit.
Why?
I don't know why.
You just want to see a black dude fucking your wife.
Yeah, that is.
That is.
I like it.
That is.
I like mirrors.
A lot of people like it.
But is that because we have a cuckoo fetish?
We're like, who's that fucking my wife?
Like, no.
Strangers.
I think I did because you get to see angles.
I'm not talking about you.
But no.
Is the thing about no at all?
But what about yes?
Like, what if you disguise it?
What if you disguise it?
What if you just put like a mask on so you don't know it's you?
Oh.
Nah, that's crazy.
Why is that crazy?
That's wild.
Like, why?
So your wife can get some pleasure in life.
I can see white guys doing that with blackface.
Ooh.
You know what I'm saying?
Can't you blackface cuck yourself?
But you got to do your own.
Can't be blackface and black dick.
You go all black, everything.
You got to put on one of them like Kanye outfits.
You got to put on the skims.
And then you got to fuck it.
You have sex with your wife.
And then you got cocked.
I can see you doing that.
Is that racist?
Can you get a pass for that?
What?
If you do full body blackface and black dick just to give your wife pleasure from a black man in the mirror?
First of all, if you did that, why would you tell anybody?
If it got a little bit of a dude.
I'm not going to.
Why would it get?
Black people be telling, bro.
These black people be snitching.
Okay?
Gunner.
So while you're in blackface, you might snitch.
Is that what you're saying?
That's what I'm saying.
Who wouldn't go to the wall?
Like, nobody's going to tell.
Like, why would you say, why would you tell anybody that?
Nah, your wife's gonna tell you.
Your wife's gonna tell France.
Why would she?
She'd be like, oh, maybe I divorced.
Okay, y'all got divorced.
I've been divorced bragging.
I caught some black dick last night.
She was crazy.
They're like, what?
Yeah, why did you know your husband?
Yeah, no.
No, not exactly.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah.
He just dressed up.
I think it depends how racist the blackface is.
Like, he gives himself super big lips or some shit.
Now it's like that's wild.
That's wild.
That's why even Ben Stiller's not apologizing for Tropic Thunder.
Like, I don't have an issue with that because I never looked at them as trying to be black.
What?
Keep going.
I never thought they were trying to be black in Tropic Thunder.
I thought they just had fans.
Yes, and I just thought blackface is when you're pretending to be black.
That's what the original minstrel show was.
He's what he's doing in the movie.
He's moving shit.
He's playing a black man.
He got surgery to look black, and then he's acting black.
I never saw Tropic Thunder.
Never saw it.
Clip it.
I never saw it.
I never seen that.
I've never seen Tropic Thunder in my life.
I actually thought it was Robert Downey Jr. that had to do with it.
It was.
It was Ben Stiller's movie.
He directed it and was like, oh, you're a genius, bro.
Your ability to have an incredibly costly opinion about something you know nothing about.
I had no idea.
So he was pretending to be black.
We got to probably clip it.
A messed actor.
Let's just watch it.
Basically, yeah, the character is like, oh, I'm a messed up.
Just let him.
Can we go to the beginning?
Bust retarded.
Oh, go back.
Go back because handicap people, y'all got to get in on this too, now.
Everybody knows you never go full retard.
So, yo, I've never seen Tropic Thunder.
I've never seen Tropic Thunder either ever in my life.
The Ben Stiller character played a character that was fully retarded.
Oh, that guy right there was supposed to be in another movie.
Okay.
Like, that's the movie's about the making of a movie.
Yeah.
And they're making fun of all these Hollywood tropes, really, like how far actors will go to get into character and take roles from people who should actually play them.
Oh, so this makes it so it makes sense for Robert Downey Jr. to be playing a black man in the movie.
Yes.
Yeah.
But people are still upset just because he is in black.
Even though they're making fun of an actor that would wear a blackface.
I don't, you know.
But Ben Stiller is like, I'm not going to apologize for the movie anymore.
Why would you apologize for a movie that was the kind of movie that it's supposed to be?
It's like Jingo.
Like no one makes Leo apologize for saying that word.
It's a period piece.
Well, his tweet, he said, I'd never apologize for making the movie.
I think he apologized one time because of the retard stuff because Sean White, the snowboarder, I think, went as like a simple jack character for Halloween.
And then that was kind of offensive.
So he just apologized and was like, yo, no offense to Sean or whatever.
I'll apologize, whoever was offended.
But he never apologized for the blackface or even really the playing of that because it's all making fun of the industry.
Not making fun of the people, the minorities.
It's making fun of the industry.
It's making fun of actors that would go this far to get an award.
And the never go full retard thing is making fun of like, we want to see people who we think are mentally who look mentally challenged, but not really.
Like they would never hire an actual autistic person to play those roles.
Yeah, yeah.
I get it.
Yeah, but people are still upset because they don't want to think about the whole context of it.
And then he said, someone said, some guy tweeted him, like, you need to stop apologizing for this movie.
I loved it.
And then he'd responded, he's like, I never apologize for the movie.
I'm very proud of it.
And just to be clear, we were making fun of the actors, not the industry, basically.
Long and short of it.
Yeah.
I'm just glad that Robert Downey Jr. came up because he came a long way from that shit to be Iron Man, bro.
This is after Iron Man.
Tropic Thunder is after really.
He said on an interview, I had done Iron Man, and then this movie came, and I knew it was tricky, but I trusted Ben Stiller.
Something like I trusted his intention.
I knew what he was trying to do.
So I was like, this could be fun.
Let's do it.
And he said in hindsight, I think he said something like in hindsight.
I know he did Sherlock Holmes after Iron Man.
But on his thing, he said I had done the first Iron Man.
Oh, no, you're right.
That shit came out a few months after Iron Man.
Oh, wow.
Jesus Christ, Iron Man.
May 2008 was Iron Man.
Tropic Thunder was August 2008.
That's ballsy, bro.
I mean, not really if the movie's already shot, and then they probably wasn't even thinking about putting Tropic Thunder out until they saw the success on Iron Man.
They're like, shit, let's throw this shit out.
Robin Hannah, you're back.
Iron Man is, they don't know it's going to be a mega success.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, this is truly pre-cancel culture.
Even though, like, you weren't supposed to do Blackface, I think it was edgy, but people, I think, saw what he was trying to do back.
I don't think that's face stuff.
Well, no, this, no, no, no, I'll lie.
I'll lie.
That right there is actually blackface.
Yeah, because he's pretending to be a black character.
But a lot of the stuff that they said was, well, I'm lying.
I was about to say stuff like Chris Rock when Fallon did Chris Rock.
I don't know if that was, he's pretending to be Chris Rock, so I guess that is Blackface, I guess.
I guess you're referencing the minstrel show.
Yeah.
And which is way different.
Yeah.
Than actually, than actually painting your skin black to look like a specific black person.
I don't think you can win.
Even if he didn't paint his skin black and still was pretending to be Chris Rock, I think he'd still get flat.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
If he like dressed like him and then did the accent or did the act out and like did all that.
Trey Caliando pretends to be Charles Barkley.
People don't, he just does the voice, I think.
I don't think he does the face.
I don't think.
And so people aren't offended by it.
Yeah.
It's just like the raw history with minstrel shows.
Anytime someone puts black on their body, people just tends up and go, oh, that's bad.
Even though if it doesn't perfectly logically make sense, it's just because it's attached to such a traumatic history.
People are just like, don't touch it.
I get it.
Even, yeah.
Even though those characters are trying to make fun of black people in general, right?
Exactly.
Whereas this is specifically being a black person or dressing up as Chris Rock is a black person or dressing up as Kobe and looking is a black person.
When Kimmel did Carl Malone.
Kimmel did Carl Malone.
But even with that, I was thinking about that one, but it's like, yo, was he actually trying to do blackface?
No, he's trying to do Carl Malone.
Carl Malone.
Which, look, there's the distinction.
Like, if you're dressing up as, like, let's say, for example, you do a stereotypical black person outfit that isn't a person that we know.
Yeah.
That, to me, regardless if it's back in the day or now, you could be like, oh, this is blackface.
You're just trying to use this as an opportunity to make fun of all the black stereotypes, right?
But if you're being Chris Rock or you're being Carl Malone or you're being somebody like that, you could show that there is a distinction there because you're going after one specific person, right?
That being said, anybody triggered by blackface is going to be triggered by that as well.
Yeah, technically it is blackface, now that I think about it.
It's all blackface.
Yeah, it's blackface because it's a white person pretending to be a black person.
That's essentially what the minstrel show was.
It was white actors.
But it wasn't pretending to be black people.
They were pretending to be stereotypical.
They were stereotypes of black people.
That's how they saw black.
Tensions of things are different, but they look similar.
Yeah.
So if you pretend to be the best stereotypes of a black person, is it still offensive?
Depends.
Depends.
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Like if you go as Oprah, is it offensive?
You're going as a Bill.
What Oprah?
Ooh.
If you do 1900 Oprah, 1990s Oprah, and you put on like a fat suit, you know what I mean?
You know, you do your hair a certain way.
That might come off kind of like, you know, you looking, you could look like you're making fun of her.
You know what I mean?
It just depends what Oprah.
And do you have to do the black skin to be Oprah?
You know?
I mean.
Kind of helps.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, is Oprah defined?
Is Oprah somebody that's defined by skin color?
Is there a way to show people that I'm Oprah?
It clears it up.
Like if there's an Asian girl dressing as Oprah, it clears it up.
If you're a white girl dressing as Oprah, when it's just like a wig, you just kind of look like the nanny, I think.
Yeah.
I guess you would have to wear like a signature Oprah outfit.
Like you'd have to wear Oprah when she revealed how skinny she was for the first time with the black shirt, the jeans.
People remember that.
If you wear J-Lo's outfit from the MCV Awards or the Grammys, whatever that was.
Like we're going to know you, J-Lo.
Easy.
Easy, easy, absolutely.
We need to bring back that show with the rock.
No, for real.
That's an iconic Oprah picture.
You got to have the wagon with you if you got the wagon with you.
And I guess that's how much weight she lost in the wagon.
Exactly.
So everybody's going to know.
Yeah.
You remember that show they used to swap the families?
It would be crazy.
Different strokes?
No, no.
They put white people in blackface and black people in white face.
I don't remember that.
And then the wife and husband, they would just swap and then live with the other family for like a week.
Oh, wait, you're talking about a different show.
There was a show where they actually painted white people.
Black and white.
Where like they make the families trade races and then live in societies of different races and then reflect on their experience.
Oh, that's what I'm thinking about.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not a question.
And somebody has different.
Somebody had a joke about this.
I forget what it was, but the conception was really funny because they're like, of course, the white people who have the blackface on are like, man, it's so hard being black.
Like people look at you crazy.
And it's like, yeah, because they're looking at you walk around the mall and blackface.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're not looking at you.
It's like a regular black person.
Word up, what fucking lunatic walking around.
And nowadays, you got to think to yourself, okay, is that like war paint this person is wearing?
Like, what is this guy about to do at that motherfucking mall?
Like, for real?
That's what I'm saying.
You really got to think about shit.
So why do y'all talk so long?
I just want to know.
Like, I want to know, like, for like podcast purposes, like, what is it?
Like, you talk four and a half hours a day.
Yeah.
There's a lot of breaks in between that, though.
Like, do you need a break?
You need to go pay?
No, I'm just saying, I want to know, like, what, is there like an algorithm thing?
Like, is there a...
We just, we just like hanging, man.
Hanging.
You know, we don't have children.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, we don't have tons of businesses.
We have a little gas basket.
I'm just wondering, like, why?
I'm like, why?
Like, this is, like, why?
I'm just wondering.
Like, I'm like.
Because it's fun when you hang out with your friends and you're like, hey, don't go home, bro.
Y'all don't even break this up in parts.
Y'all just put this shit out like this.
Y'all just drop this shit like two hour extravaganza.
He's been waiting two hours to say this.
Two hours?
I didn't realize how long.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm looking at that clock.
I'm like, is that how long we've been talking or is that the time?
How long have we been talking?
About that time.
Wait, what?
About an hour 55.
Damn.
God damn, yo.
That is what.
They're going to really think I'm on flagrant now.
This is crazy.
Jesus Christ.
Shout out to Maino too, man.
Okay.
See, this is why we go long.
Keep on bringing stuff up.
What happened with Maino?
Mayno choked out a TikToker.
Yeah.
I just want to know.
I don't know.
Oh, it's awesome.
No, it's really good.
It's really good.
Hold on one second.
This is really good.
Let me get it.
You got to understand.
And I could have, you know, Jay-Z had a line once and he was like, I don't know why your advisors didn't forewarn you.
This is why you need old men for counsel and young men for war.
Because I could have told that young man who not to play with.
So this is a dude that will antagonize people on the street doing little things.
So here.
First of all, let me put on your chain so I can see how it feels.
I want to see how it feels.
You know what I'm saying?
So I have on the show.
This is when he should have stopped.
I gave you a time.
You see how Mano put his hand on his shoulder?
Pause that for a second, Mark.
When Maino put his hand on his shoulder and gave him a little rub, like, hey, now you just chatting.
You know what I'm saying?
He's letting them know.
Now it's time for you to relax.
Because now I got my guard up.
The next thing you do, I'm going to take it as a threat and you're going to get choked the fuck out.
And for whatever reason, why was this his next thing to say?
This is crazy.
How badly, right?
You think I can like beat your ass?
Like, why?
Like, why?
First of all, why would you say that to anybody?
But why would you say that to Maino?
These young kids, man.
You don't know none of Maino's history, bro?
So this is a vertical video that someone posts on their story.
It's not just like He just chokeslammed him and just held him on the bar.
That's cognizant shit.
It was crazy.
Maino is an OG from Brooklyn.
Maino did not survive 10 years in prison, survived the means created of Brooklyn in the 1900s to be playing with no TikTok or YouTuber.
Yeah.
And why is your line, how fast do you think I could beat your ass?
That's a threat.
Yeah.
But I think that either I've seen another kid do this or he does this, and it's the same kind of line.
Stop doing that.
You won't get killed.
I'm just getting one.
How bad can I beat you up?
You say it to me, I'd be like, nine.
Don't do it to nobody.
Yo, he could do that to a random person in a gross.
This is what I like about what Maino did, is that he knows the guy's not going to try to beat him up.
He understands the jig.
The jig is this of TikTok, right?
But the point of the TikTok is to kind of make the person being interviewed look pussy.
So he's like, you're trying to make me look pussy and you have it on video.
So I have to demonstrate in some way I'm not pussy.
Let me tell you something about Maino.
And Maino is an evolved person.
He's evolved a lot.
When I first moved up here in 2006, I learned quite quickly.
How not pussy Maino was.
You shouldn't even be saying those words in Maino in the same sentence.
Yeah, I heard those stories.
And you know what Maino used to call it?
And it's so funny because this is what he administered here.
Discipline.
Okay, what's the story?
That's what Maino would say.
Maino was like, if you'd be like, yo, Maino, fuck you up.
No, no, no.
I administered discipline.
I love it.
And that's what he did just now.
Is there any stories you can tell or no?
I mean, it's stuff that people know.
I mean, Google it.
Like, it's not like a lot of this stuff is not like hidden.
Like, you can Google Maino slapped such and such or Maino beat up such and such.
Like, it's a million of them.
While Mark looks that up, has anybody tried to intimidate you?
This guy Maino put Marine.
I mean, Mark put Marine discipline.
I got the Charlamagne Google extension, okay?
I just Googled it how you said it.
No, this is a Maino.
I disciplined.
Trinidad James on DJ Vlag.
He's like, another one.
What's the other one?
Young Bergie missed being slapped by Maino.
Maino recalls.
Yeah, he just like, he slaps everyone.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I could have told this guy that wasn't going to end well for you.
You got to know who to play with.
But I think this is the ending he wanted.
Exactly.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that, yo.
I don't believe that.
And if these are the endings y'all want, please remember y'all not, this is not MTV jackass.
Those guys were getting paid millions of dollars to put themselves in harm's way.
Y'all doing this shit for some fucking likes and retweets?
Nah, bro.
And you know what this also does?
This shows Maino done set the precedent now.
Mayno done set the precedent.
So this is like the Will Smith thing.
Maino done set the precedent.
That's right.
Maino done set the precedent.
Try to play me, you get choked.
That's right.
Now I got to fuck one of you TikTokers and YouTube was up.
Was that considered self-defense, though?
Absolutely self-defense.
It was a threat.
I mean, the guy goes, what happens if I beat your ass?
Absolute threat.
This is a different trend that happened a few years ago.
I just wanted to bring it up, but it accidentally played super loud.
This is a guy that goes.
No, this is hilarious.
So this is similar.
I don't know if you've ever seen this, Charlotte, but this is a guy who would go and antagonize people and try to fight them in the hood.
And this is what would happen.
This is the one.
This one right here.
This one is fire.
This one.
This is the one, bro.
This is the one, bro.
That's hilarious, man.
Can you pull up these guys?
Oh, my God.
Man, that is funny as shit.
Idiots, top-notch idiots.
These kids are fucking crazy.
They go up to people, they try to start some shit.
Yeah, I see.
And then right before they're about to get fucked up, then they tell them, yo, there's a person.
And that's why you got to leave people the fuck alone, yeah.
Have pulled out guns on checked out dogs when they want to fight.
Scrap, you talk about a scrapbook, bro?
Well, I didn't know.
Getting into fights was that easy?
I didn't know.
All you had to do is go to someone say hey, do you want to fight right now?
And they'd be like sure, that's not what they're saying.
Though, mark the guy's like, i'll you up boy, you want to get beat up.
You know what i'm saying like, but that's different.
I just didn't know it was that easy to fight.
I had never really been in a fight.
Yeah, it's that easy.
You just have to pick the right people.
I guess.
Yeah, you got to pick people that want the time.
Yeah, you'll find people, but it's just insane.
But i'm like yeah, to this end.
Yeah, people want to pick fights and get reactions out of people for views, and views is the currency.
So if I can go to Maino and say some crazy just to get him choke me out, we're talking about him.
You're talking.
If i'm Maino, i'm suing straight up.
Suing for what?
Emotional distress?
Because what's gonna happen is that dude might try to jump out the window and do something, do a lawsuit on Mayo.
You think Maino is gonna sue someone.
Man, he needs to, because that's the type of era we live in.
Somebody will do some like that to you.
Get that reaction out of you, sue.
You get to the point where you need us to sign or whatever the fuck to do these videos.
I thought you had to do that.
Now, like all the everybody on this video can sue those guys.
I know they can.
Everybody on this video can sue if they didn't get permission to put them out.
I think at the end they tell them they're like, oh, you're on camera, you're on camera.
Is it cool to put you on camera?
That's I think.
I guess.
I think they get a very you do have to get some permission.
Some of these people seem like they would not be cool with it.
Yeah, after the prank is done, and then they're right there.
Give me your bone wild bro, it's wild.
Give me your phone blood.
Okay, all right look um, that's the episode.
As always, you listen to this podcast, should we?
Should we announce our upcoming podcast?
Oh yeah, you guys should do something.
Oh yeah, we gotta do the press release soon, right?
Oh yeah yeah, we'll wait for the press release for that.
Oh, Drake And Yachty, we didn't talk about Drake and Yadda.
Yeah, but you didn't watch the yo.
Drake and Yachty have a great conversation.
Okay, i'll be honest, I saw the clips too, but they have.
They have a great.
This is great conversation.
They do the podcast and it's two friends talking and like two friends who've had incredible success in their careers, reflecting on their success, reflecting on therapy, reflecting on like, how they see themselves different generations too which is kind of cool, like the way that yo, that was the first time.
That's fucking awesome.
That was the first time Drake's been called old.
Yeah, he's been thinking it.
Yeah, he's probably been thinking it, you know, which is probably the reason for a lot of his moves lately.
But when Yachty said that to him, he had to.
He had to ask, like yo, how old are you?
Yeah yeah, Yachty was like I was 25 and he was like he had to think about that like yeah, like Yadi's only 25, 25.
there's a moment and i think it was when yachty called him old where drake's talking and then he he says i'm like i'm 36 now or whatever and yada goes damn that's old and drake stops mid-sentence and goes and you could tell that shit he was like oh yo drake welcome to my world my boy okay that's gonna be you for the rest of your career you are the elder statesman You are the OG.
He says the same shit I say when people call me old.
I'm like, you get old, just wait.
I can't wait till you get old.
It's the truth.
But it was so funny because Drake started going like, I'm going to still be in shape.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to still be getting fly.
I'm like, oh, shit, that shit hurt him.
Like, that shit cut him deep.
Yeah.
But I enjoyed the clips of the convo that I saw.
How old is Drake?
35?
I think that's where you start to realize your mortality a little bit.
He's got a kid.
His kid's now older and he's like having a real relationship with them.
Yeah.
Once you pass that, that 35 is really the 40 threshold.
You know what I mean?
Drake really 50 in rap years, bro.
What do you mean?
He's been around the past decade.
Oh, yeah.
Like, Drake has given us so much music.
There's nothing like when Drake's, Enby was saying the other day that he wants Drake to drop one more album before he retires, like a rap album.
And I'm like, what more can he do?
No, he can't do anything.
He's given us.
He's done everything, every genre of music.
Outsold everyone.
But this is the stuff that I think that he can do.
Because I don't think that we've had this type of intimacy with Drake.
So it's like Drake has been super vulnerable in the lyrics, but still contained to a song, right?
This was really cool to see somebody say, yo, are you old?
And then him react and keep that shit in the, keep it in the podcast or keep it in the show.
I think Drake has a lot that he wants to say that for whatever reason, he's not able to convey it through music.
Because he's been doing this lately.
You know, he did this interview with Yachty, then a couple of people.
He did it with Caleb Presley as well.
That's who that was when he was sitting outside.
Yeah.
No, was it outside?
Was somebody outside him sitting outside?
Oh, no, he did Kayla Presley, but he did another one where he was just like sitting outside somewhere.
Oh, that was like a live stream or something.
Yeah, he's been doing this more and more.
Yeah, because before that, it was just the rap radar thing that he did.
Yeah.
But it's good.
Reflect.
Like, I love to see it.
And I love to see people.
And maybe there's some self-interest in it because you're looking at people who have had success.
And if they're being reflective on their success and how it's changed their life and how it's changed their relationships and all these things, it's cool to know what they're thinking in their positions, right?
Because you're always aspiring to be there, but you also want to know what the problems are when you go there.
So, you know, selfishly, it was really cool.
But you don't get to see uber successful people reflect that often.
Maybe you get an interview on the breakfast club where you can like really open them up.
But like, oftentimes, how often do we see it?
I like it, but I still think it's too young for them to be reflecting.
Like, even when Billboard did that list, when Billboard had like Kendrick Lamar as the number two greatest rapper of all time, and I think Drake was like top 10, I'm like, yo, it's too early for all that.
It's too early to have the Drake's and the Kendricks in the top 10s of all time.
You just said he was 50 in rap years.
Yeah, but I think when it comes to greatest of all time, you have to do at least 15 to 20 years.
But that's business.
What I'm saying is I want to know about how life experience has impacted you.
To me, that's the most interesting.
He said an interesting thing when he was talking about the therapy shit, and he's basically talking about how he got big titties.
I understood that earlier.
And that makes sense.
And it's cool to see the therapist put it in a way for her to completely relate.
You think that the girl, this bad girl that you're with, got the big titties, everybody's looking at her?
No.
The reason Drake sounds.
The reason Drake sounds crazy repeating that is because when your therapist tells you things, therapist is telling you things, he's telling you things, or she is telling you things for you to understand.
You know what I mean?
So whatever that reference that his therapist told him was for him.
It sounds crazy to us, but she sat with him enough to know how to talk to him and to connect with him and to get him to understand what it is that she's saying.
So to us, when he's repeating like, you know, that's why I can relate to women with big titties.
And, you know, I feel like a pair of titties in the room.
It sounds crazy to us, but that is a composition that his therapist is crazy.
Not to me, but you go to therapy.
But I do love this idea that like she tried to communicate it in a bunch of other ways.
And he probably didn't get it.
She was probably like, it's titties, bro.
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You got to go to titties.
Like, yeah, look at your fucking titties.
I go to therapy, you go to therapy.
Understand that therapy talk.
I get what that therapist connected with him on a level, and now he's trying to relate to it to people, but they're probably looking at him like, What the fuck is he talking about?
Yeah, you're talking about titties with his therapist.
Yes, yeah, a good therapist should meet you where you are, yeah, yeah, to take you where he or she needs you to go.
Yeah, I think so anyway.
No, it was just cool, it's a rare conversation.
Say what I need a better therapist, yeah.
Money, you can pay for a great therapy.
Any truck references?
No, oh, Charlotte, you walked me, bro.
What?
You gotta bleach a little bit, boy.
Men have titties now, too, by the way.
I just want you to know that.
Oh, wait, what do you mean?
Men have titties.
Yeah, of course they have titties.
You can get a titty, you can get you a titty dick combo if you want it.
Of course, you can.
Hey, yeah.
I'm glad that you acknowledge that final.
No, I'm just letting Alex know that there's other stuff on the menu.
He knows?
Yeah.
You don't think he knows that?
He works at Cheesecake Factory.
Look at his outfit.
Oh, you don't think he knows about the menu?
100%.
100%.
You know that not-so-secret menu.
Nah, the two of you, y'all can clown looks because y'all have aged and got younger.
And I don't know what it is.
It's a secret.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
It's good.
I'm good.
I'm out of fucking what you're doing.
I'm going to stick to the fuck out of here.
You just make me feel bad about you.
Yeah.
Nah, but you do got to re-up on the Botox, though.
I got to get you on Botox.
Your emotions are.
I've been hearing that, though.
You know what's so crazy?
I've been hearing that a lot, and it's wild.
I'm like, nigga, you got Botox.
Stop it.
I never got Botox.
I do chemical pills and stuff.
I would tell y'all if I got Botox.
Frown.
Huh?
Frown.
No, he got the line.
Exactly.
You got Botox.
You are a liar.
I don't have a single line on your forehead, bro.
What are you talking about?
I have a big ass vein right here.
Nah, you got a whole muscle fin right here, dude.
Yeah, you got Botox, bro.
I've never gotten broken.
There's nothing wrong with Botox, bro.
I would tell y'all if I got Botox.
I got those lines right here.
No.
I've gotten a chemical pill.
I get chemical pills.
I'm overdue for a chemical pill.
I've never gotten Botox, though.
Cat.
I would tell y'all.
I've never gotten Botox.
I've gotten chemical pills.
Wise thing.
But you've got Botox before.
Yeah, so I got it for the sweating, but then I went to get a console.
You can get Botox for sweating?
Yeah.
Yeah, put in your armpits, right?
Yeah, here and in my face.
But like, just like doesn't stop you from sweating.
It just stops the sweat from coming out of those pores.
Yeah.
That's kind of wild.
We just saw that for like three, four months, and then you have to keep doing it.
I was like, fuck it.
That's why the feet in WTF be wet.
That's where the sweat be coming from.
You be doing sitting on them shits.
That's crazy, bro.
I didn't know that shit.
So where does this sweat come out of?
I mean, it just doesn't come out.
What?
No, no, it has to be.
That's not healthy, Alex.
You need to.
I think you're just sweat a lot less.
Like, you just.
But the place is not.
No, I don't want that.
You just don't see it as broad.
Because the sweat helps you.
The sweat helps you detox.
You're supposed to sweat.
Yeah.
That's why I don't.
I'm an angry perspiring.
I don't believe in that shit.
Yeah.
Your body needs to sweat if your sweat is crazy.
Well, you don't do deodorant either, but yeah, deodorant.
I don't even believe in deodorant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but you gotta, you need it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm musty.
He's one of those that they don't shower every other day.
Like they shower like I shower every other day.
Yeah, there you go.
That's wild, man.
Then you don't shower every other day.
You got that right.
Technically.
Okay, listen, we have to stop this podcast.
This shit has been going on a long fucking time, bro.
Charlie keeps talking.
This shit is wild.
But you keep wanting to talk about different topics.
This shit is wild.
Yeah.
Listen, I'm be honest with you, man.
This might be the brilliantest episode this week, too, bro.
This is a lot.
I don't know what the fuck we could possibly talk about, bro.
Dude, that's the thing, man.
What do you mean?
You come in here, you're like, yo, I want to call Michael B. Jordan corny for the first time.
I would never do that ever.
Charlamagne.
I like Michael B. Jordan.
Charlamagne.
I love Michael B. Jordan and his love of white women.
So why did I keep putting out on him, bro?
Yo, can't he just be great?
He is great.
Love is love.
Love is great.
Creed is great.
It's great.
I'm not even.
Creed is real.
Creed is great.
I thoroughly enjoy Creed.
I saw it a couple weeks ago.
Like, it's a good movie.
Like, it's actually a great movie.
I liked him in Black Panther when he pretended he was attracted to black women.
I thought that was cool.
Wow.
He had no love interest in that movie.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, he did.
Yes, he did.
Oh, he did.
Okay, Auntie?
That's good.
That's what it is.
He didn't say, okay, Auntie.
He said, okay.
He had no love interest in that movie.
What are you talking about?
The girl when they were stealing the artifact in the beginning.
You're talking about the hero, bro.
I mean, but he still kissed her.
He killed the what?
The black woman.
Shot her.
He sent her to the ancestral realm of LA.
He said your grandma, bro.
Come on, man.
Talk about that.
That's funny as hell, Michael B. Jordan.
It wasn't a white girl.
He's like, well, look at that.
I've got a costume adjustment I'd like to make.
Listen, all you have to do is shake my hand, Michael B. John.
Oh, man.
Michael B. Jordan is a great human.
He's a great guy.
He really is.
And there's nothing wrong with white women, bro.
You hate on white women?
No, I don't think.
There's nothing wrong with white women.
I like to see black men with black women.
That's all.
And I like to see black women with black men.
That's all.
I don't mind interracial relationships.
I have that preference.
I like to see black love.
I think black love is revolutionary.
But I don't knock anybody who chooses to be an interracial relationship.
It is the greatest form of revolution.
Black love, right?
Absolutely.
Especially being you see how they've tried to break up the black family over increase the numbers of the revolution.
Oh, man.
And by the way, other racists feel that way.
Exactly.
Well, I select brown love.
Yeah.
But they're racist.
But no, no, that's not.
I don't think that's racist.
I don't think that's racist, bro.
I don't think that's racist.
I don't think that's racist.
They're a racist criteria.
I don't think so.
Jewish people do it.
Asian people do it.
I know he wouldn't.
And I don't mind that he doesn't.
But liberal white women are the worst to me.
That's the most dangerous group.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, why?
What's he doing up there?
Who?
Who is this little son?
21.
He said liberal white women.
I decided to become one real quick.
What do you mean?
Akashi?
There it is.
That's an angel.
That's an angel.
Be careful.
But maybe Michael B. Jordan is just keeping his enemies closer.
Ooh.
Smart.
But it is a thing, a race thing, right?
Like, y'all want Indians to be with other Indians?
A lot of Indians I know, like a lot of Indian dudes are like, dude, I want a white woman so badly.
I'll pass on.
Really?
I've heard Indian guys say, I'll pass on a bad Indian girl to be with a mediocre white girl.
Sellouts, bro.
When I hear shit like that, it was important to me.
Sellouts, bro.
But you wouldn't have married a black girl, though?
I would only marry an Indian.
Oh, God said it's real.
Wait, hold up.
What's up?
What hold up?
What's another way of saying that?
No, no.
What a question that is real, bro.
What's another way of saying that?
I wouldn't marry anyone who wasn't Indian.
There was a bad black girl.
It was like, oh, gosh, I would load it.
But you did it because of the hate that your own people were showing towards Indian women.
You didn't say what?
You did it because of that.
All right, oh, you said it, okay.
You listen to Sean there.
I can't hear you.
Ask him if he'd marry a black girl or a Jew girl.
I know he wouldn't, and I don't mind that.
Thank you, Sean.
But you said you did it because of the hate that your people were showing towards your women.
I don't like self-hate.
I'm with them.
I don't like that.
It's my least favorite thing.
I'm with you.
So if I can show a different example, that's important.
I'm with you.
So I don't have any problem with black men who date white women or vice versa as long as those black people aren't shitting on black people.
You know what I'm saying?
As long as it's like, oh, I married a white woman because a white woman's better.
I married a white man because a white man got his shit together.
Like that, and people that are like super pro-black would sleep white.
I'm like, okay.
You got to be in the middle somewhere.
Yeah, I'm looking at you.
I'm watching you.
If you're super pro-black, but you sleep white, can you not talk about being pro-black?
You can, but it's just, I'm just looking at you a little bit like, eh.
I kind of feel that way, too.
You know what I mean?
So they just got to be silent.
If you wanted to grow the numbers, wouldn't it be better to interracial date?
Because now you have two black people making more black people.
You take a white baby, turn it black.
Yeah.
You grow the numbers a lot faster.
You grow the numbers at the same speed, but you go faster.
No, no.
You just take away the opportunity for you, you grow the percentage higher.
You lower the percentage of white people.
Exactly.
So your numbers, you can only pick as many babies as you make.
You just lower the percentage.
But he's saying a black girl and a black guy can go have a baby with a white people.
But if they have one together, then it's just Alex.
If you just want to marry a white woman, if you want to marry a white woman, say you want to marry me.
That's right.
Yo, interracial marriage is the greatest act of revolution.
You want to marry a white woman?
That's a good ass point, bro.
You got a black girlfriend?
No.
Oh.
But I'm just an ally.
Yeah.
I just love centering.
I'm supporting you doing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm married to a black woman.
That's what's happening.
I married a black woman.
Most of my critics did not.
That's Killer Mike.
That's Michael Render.
Killer Mike made that statement up, but I support it wholeheartedly.
Interesting.
I agree with that.
Absolutely.
Interesting.
Now, if, if, can we do a hypothetical?
Okay.
Okay.
If you were given a hall pass, okay?
And a hall pass, it couldn't be a black woman because that's your love.
That's your practice.
It's too close.
It's too close.
Your wife is like, I can't let you be with another black woman.
It is another race.
Okay.
Why would it be Latina?
That's it.
Is there a Wu-Tang?
Wu-Tang said Butterpeak and Ric and Chocolate Deluxe.
So I will go get me a Butterpeak and Rican.
Yeah.
Now, is there a specific one throughout history or even a cartoon?
He's been flirting with me all day.
Al Puerto Rican cartoons.
Look at this guy right here.
That's not a Puerto Rican to you.
He's got the word like Bad Bunny right now.
Don't disrespect Bad Bunny Lump.
What y'all?
That's what you're going for.
Silly Rabbit.
Silly Rabbit is going for Bad Bunny.
That's kind of crazy.
This is what he's going for, bro.
We finally found her, bro.
That is crazy.
Hold on.
I'm better looking at Bad Bunny.
Way better looking than Bad Bunny.
Way.
Way.
Way better looking.
Way is crazy.
I think you're better looking.
Suck.
And now he's with Kendall.
Come on, bro.
Kendall who?
Jenna.
Oh.
Yeah, like, come on, bro.
Let's see.
Let's see Al versus Bad Bunny.
Yo, I swear y'all was ending this.
Nope.
Now we've come.
Now, Bad Bunny jumped.
Bad buddy kind of handsome, yo.
Nah, I got it.
Look at that.
Oh, shit.
Oh, he's doing the Charlemagne.
Yeah, that's the Charlemagne right there.
Yo, pull up Charlamagne.
He opened the dream about one of his old homies, bro.
You ain't even under playing niggas.
That's Bad Bunny.
That's bad.
Why does his tan look like that?
What?
Why is like he's a human being that wears pants usually?
But he's naked.
Shouldn't the whole thing be toasted cheeks?
Charlotte did it first.
What's that one?
That's not me.
That is not me.
That picture was crazy.
I'll go back to that.
This is jerking off in the mirror.
That's jerking off in the mirror.
Yo, Charlotte.
Oh, somebody just tweeted this.
They still tweeting this picture.
I just tweeted it.
Somebody said, what's going on with Charlotte?
This is how you get to know Illuminati right now.
See why I'm eating my motherfucking cereal, Charlemagne.
Someone about to get photoshopped onto that Charlemagne pic.
Why do they think that's me, yo?
I don't know.
That's crazy.
I don't know how they think that's you.
Those cheeks are nuts.
Honestly.
You are built right now.
I know.
You're always talking about you.
No, you're built, right?
Now, my ass ain't that fat.
That's nuts.
No, that is that is that's wild.
Yo, bad bunny toast your cheeks, yo.
That pic looks crazy.
Like, you got to get those cheeks a little toasted, man.
No, he does.
That shit looks nuts.
He does.
But go back to you, though.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, this is.
How you got blackface on your body, but then you got the white ass.
Who?
Bad bunny.
Oh, I thought we were talking about you.
No, no, no.
Nah, that's crazy.
You arcing, bro.
I've seen that picture so many times, and I'm like, at first, I thought it was a joke.
Every morning for a year.
Bro, I thought it was a joke.
Like, people really believe that's me, yo.
I never realized how dark your ankles are.
That's crazy.
Look how dark your face is.
I even know that.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I think that's Photoshop, yo.
What did he wait when?
I don't think that's really his shit.
You like a Minotaur, bro.
Why are you speaking to third person?
I know.
You've been tapping all day.
Alex over there bricked up, bro.
Stand up right now, Alex.
I can't.
I can't.
You're not.
I'm not sure if you're a bad man.
I've seen this trip like five.
For real, yo.
Zoom in on Alex.
I don't blame him, bro.
I mean, how can you not meet, bro?
That is ridiculous.
Stand up, Arch.
Come on now.
Yo, as always, if he looks like you think you're smart.