Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh - True Geordie CALLS OUT Andrew Tate
Aired: 2022-08-16
Duration: 02:09:42


=== Origin of Back and Forth (07:01) ===

[00:00:00]  What's the origin of your back and forth with Andrew Tate?
[00:00:02]  This is a guy who missed a few hugs off his mother.
[00:00:04]  I mean, there's videos of him slapping women around online.
[00:00:06]  I couldn't give a shit about Andrew Tate.
[00:00:08]  Would you box him?
[00:00:08]  If he comes up to me in my face, I would absolutely punch him in the face.
[00:00:12]  But am I going to make effort to go running every morning?
[00:00:14]  No.
[00:00:15]  I don't care.
[00:00:16]  It comes to me.
[00:00:17]  I've got a business to run.
[00:00:18]  I'm not going to take time out to worry about Andrew Tate.
[00:00:20]  I'm not like him.
[00:00:21]  I'm not daddy's little rich boy.
[00:00:22]  I've got to earn my to get him.
[00:00:24]  Oh, did he come from money?
[00:00:25]  Oh, he came from money.
[00:00:26]  I'm not just talking about the human trafficking money that you start here.
[00:00:29]  I'm talking about this will keep him going for another four years.
[00:00:33]  No worries.
[00:00:33]  You guys are going to be best friends like two years.
[00:00:35]  Yeah, I'll be making money off of his fing dumps as well.
[00:00:37]  So, Andrew, you're fighting Floyd Mayweather then.
[00:00:40]  No, I'm joking.
[00:00:41]  I'm joking.
[00:00:42]  To be fair, Battle of the Rapists, Simon Floyd.
[00:00:44]  That will be forever.
[00:00:45]  To be fair.
[00:00:46]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:47]  Welcome to Flagrant.
[00:00:49]  Today we're with the Undisputed King, the Undisputed King of podcasting, especially out here in the UK.
[00:00:56]  But I know he wants to go for the crown globally.
[00:00:59]  Give it up for True Jordan.
[00:01:00]  We got True Jordan in the building.
[00:01:02]  Cheers, Luke.
[00:01:04]  First of all, we're so stoked that you made the time for us.
[00:01:07]  When we decide to come out, you were the first person we wanted to sit down with.
[00:01:10]  I just want to let you know.
[00:01:11]  Tell me.
[00:01:12]  Absolutely.
[00:01:12]  Yeah.
[00:01:12]  I love what you're doing.
[00:01:13]  I think it's amazing.
[00:01:15]  And I think that there's something that's very unique that's happening with you.
[00:01:19]  And we were talking about a little bit before where it seems like every time you rip someone apart, you build like a friendship with and then make a lot of money from.
[00:01:32]  So I don't like that we're starting out on such a good footing.
[00:01:35]  No, that's a shame, right?
[00:01:36]  We would have a good base.
[00:01:37]  I would have made a good one.
[00:01:39]  I wouldn't want to go head to head with you, though, because I watched your bit on Will Smith and I was like, this was, we were all sitting around watching this in the studio.
[00:01:48]  We were like, me.
[00:01:49]  Like, this is like a year of material, just 10 minutes.
[00:01:52]  You just did it.
[00:01:53]  You just dropped it out there at the start of the part.
[00:01:54]  I was like, you're just showing off now, man.
[00:01:58]  Give credit, though.
[00:01:58]  It's good.
[00:01:59]  Thank you, man.
[00:01:59]  Thank you.
[00:02:00]  But you have this interesting thing where these people you've beefed with, like, obviously, not beef with, but like that you were upset at.
[00:02:06]  Like the Logan thing.
[00:02:08]  I look back at that.
[00:02:09]  We were talking earlier about the first rant that you did against Niall Rainbang.
[00:02:14]  Awesome name, by the way.
[00:02:15]  Yeah, amazing name.
[00:02:16]  I thought it was a nickname.
[00:02:17]  I was like, Did you watch that rant right now?
[00:02:18]  Everybody that's watching it.
[00:02:19]  Like, even if I'm sure a lot of you know True Jordy, if you don't, just watch it.
[00:02:24]  Explain.
[00:02:25]  At this point, you were just a fan.
[00:02:26]  You're just a guy.
[00:02:28]  So I had no like YouTube thing.
[00:02:31]  So I was working offshore.
[00:02:33]  I was a deep sea diver offshore.
[00:02:34]  So I had a proper job.
[00:02:37]  Can I say one thing?
[00:02:37]  I knew that you weren't doing video yet because you were like, and I'm done, whatever.
[00:02:42]  And then the video stayed on a little bit.
[00:02:44]  You had to press the spacebar.
[00:02:46]  It was like the colour, like, dad video.
[00:02:48]  Oh, fuck, man.
[00:02:49]  Honestly.
[00:02:49]  Okay, go ahead.
[00:02:50]  So this is the weird thing.
[00:02:53]  So Newcastle is the football team I support in the UK.
[00:02:57]  And we, one of my very good friends had recently passed away.
[00:03:00]  He died, right?
[00:03:02]  Dark, dark moment.
[00:03:03]  But, you know, it was, you know, when you go to someone's funeral and you're thinking about them and everything that they were about.
[00:03:09]  And the whole funeral was about how much he loved this football club.
[00:03:12]  So then you've got this guy who plays for us who's like bitching and whining about the fans.
[00:03:16]  I'm like, this is like within the week of.
[00:03:18]  And I was like, no, you're getting it today.
[00:03:21]  Like, so I fucking pressed this button as hard as I could, you know?
[00:03:25]  And I'm like, I hope you're better.
[00:03:26]  Because he was taking pictures of himself holding a gun like a gangster rapper.
[00:03:29]  And we don't really have that in the UK.
[00:03:31]  Like, people, this is unusual to see.
[00:03:34]  Because he's, you know, to be fair, he's from like, he's from the hood.
[00:03:36]  Like, I get that and fair play to him.
[00:03:38]  But at that moment, I was like, I hope you're better at shooting the gun than you are the football because you're fucking shit.
[00:03:43]  Yeah, I love that.
[00:03:43]  You're fucking useless.
[00:03:47]  Yo, you know who got it almost worse than him in that video?
[00:03:50]  The two football clubs.
[00:03:52]  Yeah, Brighton.
[00:03:53]  Bright and then Hoyland or something like that?
[00:03:54]  Brighton and Hobart.
[00:03:56]  I was like, you can't even fucking do well against this team.
[00:03:59]  I just went after the moment.
[00:04:00]  It was the same two teams over and over again.
[00:04:02]  And they were just getting these shots.
[00:04:04]  It was like, you went up against Brighton and Hoyland.
[00:04:06]  Like, they're still professional football clubs.
[00:04:08]  They're all working hard trying to feed their families.
[00:04:11]  Those poor guys, they got caught in the crossfire.
[00:04:14]  But this was the weird thing about Niall was Niall, he had so much talent.
[00:04:19]  But he's like one of those guys who was surrounded by dickheads.
[00:04:23]  And then years later, he rings me.
[00:04:25]  He's like, bro, I kind of get a job.
[00:04:27]  Like, I need to change how people see me because he'd been fired from that many clubs for being a bit of a dickhead.
[00:04:33]  And he was like, look, can you come and help me out?
[00:04:36]  Change my image.
[00:04:36]  And I was like, I kind of owe him.
[00:04:38]  Like, because that was what launched me.
[00:04:40]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:41]  His failure launched your career.
[00:04:42]  100%.
[00:04:43]  And by that point, like, so when I started, he had like 40K followers and I had none.
[00:04:47]  And now he's like coming around to the pod and I'm like, it's a bit awkward, this.
[00:04:51]  Yeah.
[00:04:51]  You know what I mean?
[00:04:52]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:52]  Because I had like a couple of million by that point.
[00:04:54]  And, but, like, I felt sorry for him more than anything.
[00:04:58]  So what happened on the pod when you guys spoke, final?
[00:05:01]  He was actually humble.
[00:05:02]  Like, he was, he was a cool guy, actually.
[00:05:04]  And I just think, like, how many kids get too much too soon?
[00:05:07]  Like, that's, he was just that guy.
[00:05:09]  But it's sad because he's just wasted his talent.
[00:05:13]  Yeah.
[00:05:13]  You know what I mean?
[00:05:14]  You were saying something interesting before the pod, which is like, in football, your football, soccer, for everybody watching back home, a young talent will be like kind of, I don't want to say.
[00:05:25]  Oh, wrapped up in cotton wool.
[00:05:27]  Okay, fair enough.
[00:05:28]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:28]  Probably.
[00:05:29]  Probably, right?
[00:05:30]  And it's to benefit the team because the club is going to put so much money into him at like a very young age.
[00:05:34]  Like we've, we've heard back home the stories of Messi, right?
[00:05:38]  Like, and I think like Messi's family sold him into sexual slavery like nine years ago.
[00:05:42]  That's actually not true.
[00:05:43]  What?
[00:05:44]  That's it.
[00:05:44]  No, I thought that he was.
[00:05:46]  No, no, no.
[00:05:46]  He was doing a youth academy.
[00:05:48]  He could have made a lot of money.
[00:05:50]  What is a youth academy?
[00:05:51]  I saw this soccer camera where you go slip by like different people and they make you great.
[00:05:55]  You live there.
[00:05:56]  They were injecting Messi with like human growth hormones.
[00:05:59]  Oh, human growth hormone.
[00:06:00]  So this is how I came.
[00:06:02]  They were looking after this.
[00:06:03]  So he's a bit shorter.
[00:06:04]  Oh, yeah.
[00:06:04]  He's been on the growth hormone.
[00:06:06]  I heard this.
[00:06:06]  I thought there was a rumor.
[00:06:07]  So he was like, he was really talented, but so tiny.
[00:06:10]  And they basically put HD.
[00:06:12]  Absolutely.
[00:06:14]  That's all true.
[00:06:14]  Yeah, why the fuck did I have it?
[00:06:16]  I mean, if you look at Cristiano Ronaldo.
[00:06:18]  He's like, I just said it.
[00:06:21]  He's got the best unofficial drug culture in football.
[00:06:24]  Like, if you look at our soccer players now, like Cristiano Ronaldo, he is chiseled from stone.
[00:06:30]  So high.
[00:06:31]  And nobody's wondering, like, yeah, do we want to start really drug testing these guys?
[00:06:35]  Because you know how in the NFL and they've had that moment.
[00:06:39]  Yeah.
[00:06:39]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:40]  It's sort of, you know.
[00:06:41]  What?
[00:06:41]  What?
[00:06:42]  It's unspoken about.
[00:06:43]  But like, how do you think about that?
[00:06:43]  So there is like steroids and shit.
[00:06:45]  Oh, there must be.
[00:06:46]  He's 38 years old and he's still scoring 20 goals a season.
[00:06:48]  Like that's never happened in the history of football before.
[00:06:50]  So that's some people are talking about that bit with like LeBron.
[00:06:53]  There's always the conversation like, yeah, you got to be on some shit.
[00:06:56]  Must be.
[00:06:56]  Yeah, he's 38.
[00:06:58]  Yeah.
[00:06:58]  I mean, I'm 38 and I can't have like four tequilas.

=== The Problem with Steroids (05:02) ===

[00:07:01]  Yeah, I mean, you just said that beforehand.
[00:07:03]  It's like a big fucking headache before the hangover.
[00:07:05]  Dude, it was, it's humbling, dude.
[00:07:07]  I'm out and I'm not even drunk and I still had, I was like hungover at the fucking club.
[00:07:11]  It was really bad.
[00:07:12]  And there's, yo, dude, yeah, it's bad.
[00:07:14]  DJ asked him to turn it down.
[00:07:15]  Yeah.
[00:07:16]  It's too dark here.
[00:07:18]  Wow.
[00:07:18]  Like an old Jewish man.
[00:07:20]  But yeah, yeah.
[00:07:21]  Yeah.
[00:07:21]  So, okay, so then Nigel comes on the pod.
[00:07:24]  Niel, yeah.
[00:07:25]  Niall.
[00:07:25]  Yeah, I'm just combining his names.
[00:07:28]  All British people are named Nigel.
[00:07:30]  So he comes on the pod and then and then what happens?
[00:07:34]  I wished him well afterwards.
[00:07:35]  I was like, I hope that helps because he basically admitted like, yeah, fucked it right up for myself.
[00:07:41]  But he ended up just going back down the leagues and still trying, I think.
[00:07:44]  Oh, he's still playing.
[00:07:46]  Yeah, but it hasn't, it's like complete, like he was on the fucking, he was, the trajectory was so good for him.
[00:07:54]  And he's never been back to the Premier League.
[00:07:56]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:07:57]  Not even playing for Brixton or what was written, right?
[00:08:02]  But like, I wish him well, but it's sometimes like.
[00:08:05]  But you get that one chance as a kid.
[00:08:07]  And if you fuck it when you're in your early 20s, you never get it again.
[00:08:10]  You know, there's a documentary on Netflix.
[00:08:13]  I don't know if you saw it, but about a dude who was doing the deep sea diving shit.
[00:08:19]  Oh, yeah, yeah, I know that guy.
[00:08:20]  Get the fuck out of here.
[00:08:21]  I don't know him personally, but I've got one of my best friends who I work with is very good friends with him.
[00:08:27]  Was that your job?
[00:08:28]  It's called Last Breath, yeah.
[00:08:29]  Yes, you are one of those.
[00:08:30]  Yep.
[00:08:31]  Okay, I'm going to briefly summarize what happened in this documentary.
[00:08:34]  Tell me if I'm fucked up.
[00:08:35]  Okay.
[00:08:36]  They are diving.
[00:08:39]  I already fucked it up.
[00:08:40]  Where are they diving?
[00:08:43]  This guy's had one sip of his drink.
[00:08:46]  Fuck it.
[00:08:46]  Where are they diving, bro?
[00:08:48]  Okay, so they're in the North Sea, like off of Scotland, basically.
[00:08:51]  It's fucking horrible.
[00:08:51]  It's freezing cold.
[00:08:52]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:54]  Watch him out.
[00:08:54]  Watch him out about my people.
[00:08:56]  What are they diving for?
[00:08:57]  Scotland, there's more rain in Scotland probably than anywhere else in the world.
[00:09:01]  That sounds fun.
[00:09:02]  That sounds fun.
[00:09:02]  That sounds fire.
[00:09:03]  You imagine my diving course.
[00:09:04]  We had a guy from New York there who was a former Marine.
[00:09:07]  And he's walking up the pier with me and the rain is smashing him in the face.
[00:09:11]  And I'm looking at him going, ha ha ha, this is shit, isn't it?
[00:09:14]  And he's like, man, this fucking place is hell on earth.
[00:09:19]  Welcome to Scotland, boy.
[00:09:21]  What are you diving for?
[00:09:22]  I don't even get.
[00:09:23]  Like, what's in the North Sea?
[00:09:25]  So they're basically where the oil comes from, basically.
[00:09:29]  Yeah, we got the oil.
[00:09:32]  So yeah, they're diving off the coast.
[00:09:35]  And they basically like pressurize for a whole month.
[00:09:38]  So they live in a tiny bell.
[00:09:42]  That's what they call it, basically, where they go out into another bell.
[00:09:45]  They get lowered down, do their bit, 12-hour shift for the day, come back up, sleep.
[00:09:50]  And they put this guy out there, and the boat, what keeps the boat in place so that the divers can stay on the job failed.
[00:10:01]  Because it's not anchored.
[00:10:02]  So the boat is getting pushed by the current.
[00:10:05]  By the storm, and the diver's umbilical cord, which is what gives him his hot water, his breathing, everything, gets wrapped around something, snaps, and he's just left for dead.
[00:10:15]  So keep that in mind.
[00:10:16]  It's not like diving as we'd see people do with this big fucking tank.
[00:10:20]  No.
[00:10:21]  They're hooked up.
[00:10:22]  Because they're so far down.
[00:10:24]  So it's not like air diving where you can go to like 50 meters, you go around, you have a look at a nice little bit of fish and a bit of fucking treasure or whatever.
[00:10:31]  Like this is like, you are there to live there underwater for about a month.
[00:10:36]  So yeah, he was so far down, it was like just so fucked.
[00:10:41]  It's like a mini submarine.
[00:10:42]  Like essentially, they pressurize and then they just leave you down there.
[00:10:46]  You live in that pressurized environment for breathing helium as well.
[00:10:50]  So your voice is squeaky as fuck for a whole month.
[00:10:52]  Yeah, that was actually how funny.
[00:10:53]  That's how bad Scotland is.
[00:10:54]  They rather live under the water.
[00:10:57]  But these guys are making about 10,000 pounds a day, these guys are making to do this shit.
[00:11:02]  And that's what you were doing.
[00:11:03]  Well, I wasn't doing it quite as deep as what they I didn't go as deep as them, if you know what I mean.
[00:11:08]  But yeah, it's basically the same job as them.
[00:11:10]  Yeah.
[00:11:10]  Yeah.
[00:11:10]  Okay.
[00:11:11]  So the guy's umbilical cord gets snapped.
[00:11:14]  Yep.
[00:11:14]  It tied around something, snaps.
[00:11:17]  He climbed.
[00:11:17]  He's completely lost.
[00:11:18]  You can't see anything.
[00:11:19]  You can't see, you know.
[00:11:20]  It's black.
[00:11:21]  Black.
[00:11:21]  Yep.
[00:11:22]  Right.
[00:11:23]  He finds, he just gets lucky, walks back to the oil extraction site.
[00:11:30]  Basically, yeah, the job that he was on.
[00:11:32]  Yeah.
[00:11:32]  Finds a way to climb up it.
[00:11:34]  Again, you can't see anything.
[00:11:35]  You can't even see your hand in front of you.
[00:11:36]  Just lays down on top of it.
[00:11:39]  Runs out of oxygen, runs out of warmth, right?
[00:11:42]  It's freezing down there.
[00:11:43]  And pressure too, right?
[00:11:44]  Well, I guess he's already.
[00:11:46]  He's alright because he's pressurized, but he's basically not breathing anything.
[00:11:50]  I don't know.
[00:11:50]  Didn't breathe for 30 minutes.
[00:11:51]  Yeah.
[00:11:52]  30 minutes.
[00:11:53]  He didn't breathe?
[00:11:54]  I don't think he breathed.
[00:11:54]  He lives.
[00:11:55]  Yeah.
[00:11:56]  You're not Scottish.
[00:11:58]  You don't need oxygen bro, we don't need oxygen.
[00:12:01]  How long can you hold your breath?
[00:12:02]  For how long?

=== Diving Into Darkness (11:08) ===

[00:12:03]  We're different bro, we're different.
[00:12:07]  I take one 30 minutes, that's it.
[00:12:10]  I got 30 minutes worth of oxygen right there and i'm not breathing.
[00:12:13]  If you do two of those, you gotta be careful effects.
[00:12:17]  Okay, so you've been down there?
[00:12:18]  Yep okay, for how long?
[00:12:23]  Sometimes I was doing a few hours, but you wouldn't do the month straight no, so mine was a lot more like um uh, it was like air diving instead of sat diving, so there's two.
[00:12:33]  Basically, it depends on what you're, what you're.
[00:12:34]  Breathing, but so, like I would be like it was like miserable.
[00:12:39]  Yeah, there was days where so i'm underwater and i'm like using like pressurized hoses where i'm blasting concrete off of their piles underwater that uh like keep the um, the pier up, for example, to uh like basically repair uh, a pier that's old and yeah.
[00:12:57]  And then you're getting out and you're you're surrounded by like military guys and I was like a young kid.
[00:13:03]  I just wanted to go out, meet women, drink and uh, and to be fair, a lot of the guys were like that.
[00:13:09]  But like you're looking around and like they're like 40 odd year old guys who are doing like cope in viagra like yeah, it was wild yeah, so it taught me a lot about life, did you?
[00:13:19]  Did you get into those habits?
[00:13:20]  I didn't get into necessarily, those habits, but I was definitely.
[00:13:24]  I was running as fast as I could to keep up with everything that they were telling me to do.
[00:13:29]  You know what I mean I?
[00:13:30]  I was uh, I was just shogging everything I could yeah, do you know what I mean?
[00:13:34]  Yeah and um, and that was the first time i'd had money as well.
[00:13:38]  Scottish lasses yeah yeah, how is that?
[00:13:41]  Um, Scottish lasses are wild.
[00:13:44]  They're wild, they're mental wild, like wolves that have just been left out.
[00:13:49]  Like like, before you even had a first date, send you a picture of um pussy right uh no, a dildo in her horse and a dildo in her pussy, and they're like oh, so they're all like big whores, like everybody.
[00:14:01]  Say that my mom left there bro, i'm sorry yeah, that's why yeah yeah, I was in the stab capital of Europe as well.
[00:14:11]  Like, there's the worst place for stabbings, that's in uh, near Glasgow.
[00:14:15]  It was.
[00:14:15]  Oh yeah yeah yeah, that's where my mom's from you think, they think you're, they're doing you a favor when they try to kill you in Scotland like yeah like, this is horrible, let's just get you out of this mess.
[00:14:24]  Yeah no, but my mom left and my mom doesn't know what a dildo is either.
[00:14:28]  I would never disrespect your mom.
[00:14:30]  I would disrespect your heritage heritage maybe you can go at, but I know that my mom specifically has no clue.
[00:14:35]  What a dildo?
[00:14:35]  Have you been back to Scotland, say again.
[00:14:37]  I went there.
[00:14:38]  Yeah yeah, the Old Brave Heart yeah yeah, I went.
[00:14:41]  I saw my people.
[00:14:42]  I know what my, my clan is about.
[00:14:45]  I know what they stand for.
[00:14:46]  Yeah yeah yeah yeah no no, we don't them, we stole them and what we do with our stolen sheep is none of your.
[00:14:52]  Maybe you guys, maybe you got confused on as a Scottish woman had a little sex.
[00:14:55]  Well, that's the thing you, you know, once you've tried Scottish.
[00:14:58]  I've never.
[00:14:59]  I've only been in a Scottish pussy one time.
[00:15:03]  What do you think?
[00:15:04]  And I know I don't remember much of it, but I was there for a while so I must have liked.
[00:15:08]  Yeah, you're like a deep sea diver.
[00:15:09]  You were in there just enough, talking about it pressurized, but uh but, yeah.
[00:15:15]  So I think Scottish women are absolutely beautiful and maybe they're an acquired taste for you guys.
[00:15:20]  You know what i'm saying.
[00:15:21]  Better than anyone take any.
[00:15:22]  That's one thing I will.
[00:15:23]  They don't take dude.
[00:15:24]  Yeah, you gotta be careful, they will like.
[00:15:27]  Because I did try a viagra of one of those old guys.
[00:15:30]  Yeah, yeah and uh.
[00:15:31]  He was like about half an hour beforehand, just take this.
[00:15:34]  Now i'm in my early 20s, I don't need viagra.
[00:15:36]  Yeah, what the was he doing?
[00:15:37]  Giving me viagra?
[00:15:38]  Yeah, I literally put a shift in on her to a point where the next morning I put a shift in lads all right.
[00:15:47]  So obviously we've got to get change in front of each other and literally right my back.
[00:15:54]  You ever seen Silence Of The Lambs where the fingernails are still in the bricks?
[00:15:57]  My back was like that.
[00:15:58]  The boys were like, What the fuck happened?
[00:15:59]  I went, He gave us a fucking Viagra.
[00:16:01]  That's what happened.
[00:16:02]  I couldn't come.
[00:16:03]  I was going for like nine hours, hours.
[00:16:06]  We were having cup of teas in between, just like so.
[00:16:11]  There's Scottish women for you.
[00:16:12]  They love a Viagra in your cup of tea.
[00:16:14]  Yeah, but they like it.
[00:16:15]  They like dick, right?
[00:16:16]  Oh, yeah.
[00:16:16]  My mom would, my mom would have sex a lot when my dad did.
[00:16:19]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:20]  How many kids did she end up with?
[00:16:21]  Well, just two.
[00:16:21]  Just two.
[00:16:22]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:23]  But they would have like sex for not kids a lot.
[00:16:26]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:27]  Sex for not kids.
[00:16:28]  That's my sex for not.
[00:16:29]  Yeah, so she just loved it, dude.
[00:16:30]  Really?
[00:16:30]  Did you hear it?
[00:16:31]  You ever walked in?
[00:16:32]  All the time.
[00:16:33]  Wow.
[00:16:33]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:33]  They're loud, dude.
[00:16:34]  Scottish women, Scottish women are loud.
[00:16:37]  I can actually verify that.
[00:16:38]  That's one thing I can't verify.
[00:16:40]  She said shit a lot.
[00:16:42]  Oh, shit.
[00:16:43]  I was like, fucking hell.
[00:16:44]  Tell me.
[00:16:45]  I'm going to fucking die.
[00:16:46]  Me fucking hard on killing me right now.
[00:16:49]  Honestly.
[00:16:50]  Yeah, dude.
[00:16:50]  My dad would say the same shit, bro.
[00:16:53]  And why were you into why were you deep sea diving?
[00:16:55]  Like, why was that career?
[00:16:57]  I found a video on YouTube and I'd done engineering beforehand.
[00:17:01]  And they were like, yo, if you're an engineer, you can make a fuck ton of money by doing this underwater because it's basically danger money.
[00:17:07]  And I seen that and I was like, well, I'm not making good money on fucking land.
[00:17:10]  Yeah.
[00:17:11]  So go on then.
[00:17:12]  And yeah, I just tried it out.
[00:17:14]  Wow.
[00:17:14]  Yeah.
[00:17:15]  Wild.
[00:17:16]  Engineering.
[00:17:17]  What kind of engineering?
[00:17:18]  I was mechanical engineering.
[00:17:20]  You were a motherfucker.
[00:17:21]  Not really.
[00:17:22]  Nah, engineering is fucking hard.
[00:17:24]  Any engineering except software.
[00:17:25]  That's for sure.
[00:17:26]  I was pretty dumb in the class.
[00:17:28]  Yeah, but.
[00:17:29]  Okay, so then you continued your, and I don't want to call them beefs because I think there are certain people, podcasters, that beef for clout.
[00:17:36]  Oh, I'm not H3 podcast, for example.
[00:17:38]  Okay.
[00:17:38]  Okay.
[00:17:38]  Right.
[00:17:39]  Because if you can create content that people enjoy, right?
[00:17:43]  You don't need to be able to do it.
[00:17:44]  I don't actually know.
[00:17:45]  I just want to talk about what's happening.
[00:17:47]  Yeah, I think it's not.
[00:17:47]  I want people to leave me the fuck alone.
[00:17:49]  I don't want to do beefs.
[00:17:50]  It literally felt genuine.
[00:17:51]  Yeah, I think you just want to be honest and say your feelings on people and things.
[00:17:55]  I think that's why it's easier to reconcile.
[00:17:57]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:17:58]  Because your anger was authentic.
[00:18:01]  You were hurt by a situation.
[00:18:02]  And then once you share that with somebody, you go, okay, I see why you felt this way.
[00:18:05]  You weren't using me for clicks.
[00:18:07]  Yep.
[00:18:07]  Do you know what I'm saying?
[00:18:08]  Yeah, I said that to Logan.
[00:18:09]  I don't know if you seen the video.
[00:18:11]  I was about to bring up Logan.
[00:18:12]  So how did that happen?
[00:18:13]  So you come out in Logan.
[00:18:14]  Logan did that video.
[00:18:18]  Logan did the video.
[00:18:19]  What was the issue with the video that you had?
[00:18:21]  So there was the Japan video, which I know a lot of people hate it.
[00:18:24]  But long story short, I found someone dead like that before.
[00:18:28]  In Japan?
[00:18:29]  Not in Japan.
[00:18:30]  Wasn't exactly the same guy.
[00:18:32]  But Scotland.
[00:18:34]  So when I seen the video, it was like 6 a.m.
[00:18:36]  Obviously, they'd released it at US time.
[00:18:38]  And I'm waking up in the UK like, just check on what's on Twitter.
[00:18:42]  And then obviously it happened.
[00:18:43]  I didn't know who Logan was.
[00:18:45]  Didn't have a clue.
[00:18:46]  Which was verified because there was a podcast beforehand where I was like, never heard of this guy.
[00:18:51]  I don't know who he used to talk about when other people were mentioning him.
[00:18:53]  And yeah, I just was like, it just triggered me in the biggest way, you know, because he was just a young, immature kid who was making light of a situation that I was like, you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about here.
[00:19:06]  And clearly, he missed the mark.
[00:19:07]  Obviously, the whole world knows that.
[00:19:09]  And when I'm talking about him and I'm talking about what he's doing and all that, towards the end, I started talking about all the kids who messaged me who've had mental health issues.
[00:19:18]  And before I know it, like, I'm fucking crying.
[00:19:21]  Like, I'm actually like, it's all fucking happening there.
[00:19:25]  You know what I mean?
[00:19:26]  And then at the end, I was like, fuck me.
[00:19:28]  I just, because I'd actually edited out bits where I was like, I want to fucking punch the fuck out of you, you little prick.
[00:19:33]  You know, like, because I thought it's not really going to play in my favor if I'm threatening violence here.
[00:19:38]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:39]  And then I uploaded it, and that was the video that I think put me onto another level.
[00:19:45]  I got 200,000 subscribers in 24 hours in one day.
[00:19:49]  Fuck me.
[00:19:50]  Yeah, so that was when I was like, wow, this so it's probably a lot of people shared that frustration, and you were able to articulate it in a way.
[00:19:58]  And it's like, yo, this guy is in a genuine way.
[00:20:00]  Yeah.
[00:20:00]  I think that's where I've nailed certain things before where people feel what I'm feeling, but I can just say it in a way that just rounds it up nicely.
[00:20:09]  When we were doing those videos during the pandemic, we did these like turn your phone videos.
[00:20:12]  I don't know if you ever saw those, right?
[00:20:14]  And I think we were kind of doing a very similar thing.
[00:20:16]  It's like people felt a certain way about what was happening culturally or politically.
[00:20:20]  And we were able to like slice it thin and articulate it to the point where they felt safe sharing.
[00:20:25]  Because sometimes it's scary to say an opinion, especially in you know.
[00:20:29]  That's what you do fantastically well, man.
[00:20:31]  You nail it.
[00:20:32]  But it's also a responsibility that we now have when we have these platforms to kind of say what other people want to say, but can't quite nail it in the with the gift that you have and the gift that you guys have.
[00:20:42]  Like it's hard.
[00:20:45]  But I didn't really do it for that reason.
[00:20:47]  At the time, I was like, I'm just fucking raging right now.
[00:20:50]  Yeah.
[00:20:50]  Yeah.
[00:20:51]  I think it would be a funny prank, though, if there was someone who did want to kill themselves to like just do it in the back of one of Logan's videos.
[00:20:57]  Bro.
[00:20:57]  Like, as if that boy hasn't been through enough right now.
[00:21:01]  But like, he didn't know it.
[00:21:02]  And he just happened to be in the back.
[00:21:05]  Right?
[00:21:06]  I thought you were going to do it anyway.
[00:21:08]  If you were already going to do it, you should absolutely not do it.
[00:21:12]  And I think you should talk to somebody if you feel like Apps 100%.
[00:21:15]  Here's the hotline.
[00:21:17]  Call right here.
[00:21:18]  Call right here.
[00:21:19]  But if you still, after calling, we're like, no, this is the right decision.
[00:21:23]  I'm committed.
[00:21:24]  Exactly.
[00:21:24]  Find where they're doing impulsive.
[00:21:26]  I mean, in America, it's about to happen at some point.
[00:21:29]  You know what I mean?
[00:21:29]  You guys have shootings regularly.
[00:21:31]  Is that crazy to you guys?
[00:21:32]  Yeah, we think you guys are all fucking crazy.
[00:21:35]  No, no, it's normal to do that.
[00:21:36]  It's actually school.
[00:21:38]  I don't know.
[00:21:38]  Like, is it?
[00:21:39]  Hey, is math really crazy, dude?
[00:21:41]  Yeah.
[00:21:41]  You've never been in class and you're just like, fuck everyone.
[00:21:44]  Like, you never had that.
[00:21:45]  This is the thing.
[00:21:45]  I'm really glad that we didn't have guns when I was in class because it would have went.
[00:21:48]  I'd have been the one of the guys who was looking it up.
[00:21:51]  All right.
[00:21:55]  Did you, you like, you got suspended or something for like pissing on the window of like the teacher's lounge?
[00:22:01]  You did your research.
[00:22:02]  Yeah.
[00:22:03]  Yeah.
[00:22:04]  I was like 10 years old and I ran up to my teacher's lounge and I was like pissing on the window and flipping them.
[00:22:10]  And then so imagine you had an AK, bro.
[00:22:12]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:22:13]  Yeah.
[00:22:13]  Exactly.
[00:22:14]  I had major problems back then.
[00:22:16]  A lot of testosterone.
[00:22:17]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:18]  A lot of spots on my face and that.
[00:22:19]  You know what I mean?
[00:22:20]  It wasn't good.
[00:22:21]  But then you see these young YouTube guys.
[00:22:23]  I don't know if you've seen any of these guys before they flip.
[00:22:25]  And they're like, I don't know why women don't want to have sex with me.
[00:22:28]  I'm charismatic.
[00:22:29]  You've seen these guys.
[00:22:31]  These incels.
[00:22:32]  They are terrifying.
[00:22:33]  Yeah.
[00:22:33]  Go to Scotland.
[00:22:34]  They go.
[00:22:35]  Go to Scotland.
[00:22:36]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:36]  Don't need to get a gun out.
[00:22:38]  Just go to Scotland.
[00:22:40]  What do we do with these incels if they're like on YouTube being like, yeah, why does no one like me?
[00:22:44]  What's the remedy for that?
[00:22:47]  They genuinely freak me the fuck out, though.
[00:22:49]  Like, they are all the same.
[00:22:50]  They make so many warning videos.
[00:22:52]  I'm like, why wasn't just send it to the cops?
[00:22:54]  Like, why?
[00:22:55]  Yeah.
[00:22:56]  It's so fucking weird.
[00:22:57]  Like, I'm going to show you all.
[00:22:58]  I'm going to show you next week when I kill everybody.
[00:23:01]  Oh, really?
[00:23:01]  Then you'll respect me.
[00:23:02]  Oh, really?
[00:23:03]  That's what they say.
[00:23:04]  Can I say something?
[00:23:04]  You have a good American accent, and I just realized when you were imitating an incel that you have a really good American accent, you could play an incel.

=== Fixing Your Diet Smoke (03:34) ===

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[00:23:13]  There's no way that's not.
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[00:23:17]  That's a hell of a model American.
[00:23:20]  What up, guys?
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[00:23:41]  We understand.
[00:23:42]  Everything exists on the internet.
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[00:24:05]  So thank you so much.
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[00:24:07]  All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because some of y'all are getting too damn high.
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=== Doctor Eyes and Payback (10:46) ===

[00:26:47]  Now let's get back to the show.
[00:26:48]  What are you into?
[00:26:49]  Oh, tell you what I'm into.
[00:26:50]  This is annoying, really, because I'm in the worst place possible for it.
[00:26:54]  But America are probably better.
[00:26:56]  Big, big asses, Latino women.
[00:26:58]  You like big ass Latina women?
[00:27:00]  Yeah, like huge, thick women.
[00:27:02]  You like thick, thick women?
[00:27:03]  I know I like this.
[00:27:04]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:04]  What do you mean?
[00:27:04]  You like this guy?
[00:27:06]  I want something like that other men go, don't know about that.
[00:27:10]  Like, I want that.
[00:27:10]  Really?
[00:27:11]  Yeah, I want a challenge.
[00:27:12]  Why is that?
[00:27:13]  I don't know.
[00:27:14]  I just think with a normal size woman, it's quite easy for me to sort of do what I want.
[00:27:18]  Oh, but so you want a girl to fight back on?
[00:27:20]  I'm not fight.
[00:27:21]  Let's talk.
[00:27:25]  Although, speaking of gosh, it's like calm down.
[00:27:27]  There's no hands raised.
[00:27:29]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:27:30]  I just mean a wrestle.
[00:27:32]  A little bit of a challenge.
[00:27:33]  You know what I mean?
[00:27:34]  You got to.
[00:27:35]  That sounded the same both times.
[00:27:37]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:38]  I want you to know that you said the same thing before.
[00:27:40]  You've got to push past a few inches of cheeks just to make it to the whole thing.
[00:27:42]  There you go.
[00:27:43]  I see.
[00:27:44]  You don't want to feel like it's just.
[00:27:45]  Why are you got a piece on you?
[00:27:47]  Is that what you're doing?
[00:27:47]  No, I'm not suggesting that.
[00:27:49]  I mean, if people want to surmise that, that's up to them.
[00:27:52]  What do you have for?
[00:27:53]  I think it's quite average, if I'm honest with you.
[00:27:54]  It's average.
[00:27:55]  Average on you?
[00:27:56]  Because that's still probably fucking.
[00:27:57]  You made a fucking good point there.
[00:27:59]  Because I've been thinking that for years.
[00:28:02]  I've been thinking about your dick since you sat down.
[00:28:07]  It's a letdown.
[00:28:08]  This is the thing, right?
[00:28:09]  It's like if you have a huge house with a big garage and then you have a normal size car.
[00:28:14]  It looks small.
[00:28:14]  It looks weird, right?
[00:28:16]  So like if you don't have a Range Rover, people are like, wow, this is all right.
[00:28:20]  So that's all I'm going to say.
[00:28:21]  Yeah, my balls have been growing lately.
[00:28:23]  I might have some issue there.
[00:28:24]  What happened with that?
[00:28:24]  I don't know.
[00:28:25]  I don't know how balls keep growing, but our dick is.
[00:28:27]  Do you feel that as well?
[00:28:28]  I thought my dick was shrinking.
[00:28:29]  I swear to God.
[00:28:30]  I thought my dick was getting smaller.
[00:28:31]  And I almost like Googled it.
[00:28:33]  And I was like, can dicks get smaller?
[00:28:34]  Like, I thought there was like a pill I was taking.
[00:28:36]  What is the answer to that, Google, Brother?
[00:28:37]  Say again?
[00:28:37]  What is the answer to that?
[00:28:38]  Well, I almost did because I didn't want to do it.
[00:28:40]  I didn't want to know the answer.
[00:28:41]  But I think my balls are getting bigger, and I think that's the thing you're talking about.
[00:28:44]  You're a big guy.
[00:28:45]  Even if you have a regular sized dick, it's going to look small.
[00:28:49]  That's it.
[00:28:49]  That's why women think these short, skinny dudes have huge dicks.
[00:28:53]  Because they're just short and skinny.
[00:28:54]  It's a backdrop, man.
[00:28:55]  Yeah.
[00:28:55]  The fuckers.
[00:28:56]  Holy shit, that's a great point.
[00:28:58]  Now, what about a big stitched up?
[00:29:00]  Say again?
[00:29:01]  I've been stitched up in life.
[00:29:02]  You got circumcised.
[00:29:05]  But like, all of this.
[00:29:07]  You have the hood.
[00:29:07]  You have everything.
[00:29:08]  You got the...
[00:29:09]  I've got British.
[00:29:11]  Nobody touched up my dick when I was born or since then in that way.
[00:29:14]  Is that weird?
[00:29:15]  Yo, yo, get out of here.
[00:29:17]  You might connect.
[00:29:18]  There you go.
[00:29:19]  Wait, is that?
[00:29:20]  You've got a sensitive penis, unlike you circumcised for you.
[00:29:23]  I'm sensitive too.
[00:29:24]  Nope.
[00:29:24]  You don't even know what's feeling.
[00:29:26]  What does it suppose you feel like then, dude?
[00:29:27]  You don't even know what pleasure feels like.
[00:29:30]  It's that moment when it first goes in, man.
[00:29:32]  Yeah.
[00:29:33]  But you have that too.
[00:29:34]  No, they're not a safe.
[00:29:34]  What do you think?
[00:29:35]  Because your dick's been bashing around on stuff unprotected, man.
[00:29:38]  Mine's bulletproof.
[00:29:40]  You really think?
[00:29:41]  Absolutely.
[00:29:43]  Come on, when you pull it back to pee, are you like nutting at the urinal?
[00:29:46]  Sometimes.
[00:29:47]  It just feels so good.
[00:29:48]  Only if you're not next to me, if I look over, then what's the quickest you can manage to not?
[00:29:54]  That I can come?
[00:29:54]  Yeah.
[00:29:55]  Man or woman?
[00:29:57]  Either.
[00:29:58]  Okay.
[00:29:59]  Woman?
[00:30:00]  If you're on your own, what about if you're on your own?
[00:30:02]  Oh, dude, I've come before I'm fully hard.
[00:30:04]  I honestly look.
[00:30:04]  That's a good one, right?
[00:30:05]  I nutrated.
[00:30:07]  Dude, dude, I nut and it's still going up.
[00:30:08]  I'm like, you don't even understand what happened.
[00:30:13]  On the way.
[00:30:14]  You fake the throne.
[00:30:15]  He's like, where'd it go?
[00:30:19]  That's how fast, bro.
[00:30:20]  That's how fast.
[00:30:21]  I can get it out quick.
[00:30:22]  Yeah, I like those ones when you're not fully hard.
[00:30:25]  Yeah.
[00:30:25]  Why do you like them?
[00:30:26]  Don't know.
[00:30:27]  Efficiency.
[00:30:28]  You like the efficiency.
[00:30:29]  Yeah.
[00:30:29]  Yeah.
[00:30:30]  It's also like a little bit lazy as well, I guess.
[00:30:32]  Yeah.
[00:30:32]  I feel like a psychopath.
[00:30:34]  Yeah.
[00:30:34]  Yeah.
[00:30:36]  When I can nut not fully hard, I'm like, no, this isn't a moment, me, dude.
[00:30:40]  You have nerve endings in your foreskin that a doctor got rid of and threw in the garbage.
[00:30:43]  Why do people do that?
[00:30:44]  Why do people think you threw it in the garbage, dude?
[00:30:46]  Well, where did he?
[00:30:47]  He didn't.
[00:30:47]  I mean, obviously, we're fucking Native Americans.
[00:30:50]  Yeah.
[00:30:50]  Wait, what?
[00:30:51]  Did you watch that documentary on YouTube?
[00:30:53]  You got to use every part of the macaroni out of it?
[00:30:55]  Yes, dude.
[00:30:55]  Call him right.
[00:30:56]  Okay.
[00:30:56]  Did you watch that documentary on Netflix where the doctor was like, yeah, I'm taking semen from these people, and it was just the doctor's cum the whole time.
[00:31:05]  And he impregnated all those fucking women.
[00:31:07]  Wait, What is this?
[00:31:08]  So, you know, women who are going through issues with fertility?
[00:31:12]  And then he gave them what?
[00:31:13]  They all went to this doctor who was the best in the business.
[00:31:16]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:16]  And meanwhile, he was going into his office, knocking one out, putting it in, and he was like, yep, got this sample from one of our guys.
[00:31:24]  And he was telling them that.
[00:31:26]  Can I just play Devil's Adams?
[00:31:29]  Can I just play Devil's Again?
[00:31:30]  I'm talking with you.
[00:31:33]  They're going to have Dr. Sperm.
[00:31:36]  Yes.
[00:31:36]  Yeah, but a doctor that's taking a lot of women's sperm.
[00:31:39]  So that's never man lies to women.
[00:31:40]  Until your kids.
[00:31:42]  What do you think about Dr. Sperm is so good?
[00:31:44]  It's a doctor.
[00:31:45]  I think it's better.
[00:31:46]  You want an Indian guy's sperm?
[00:31:48]  Say that.
[00:31:49]  I don't know about that.
[00:31:50]  I don't know.
[00:31:50]  He wasn't in India.
[00:31:51]  What was he?
[00:31:52]  Just Caucasian dude, but he was ugly as well.
[00:31:54]  So a lot of his kids were ugly.
[00:31:56]  But he must have been smart as fuck to be a white doctor.
[00:31:58]  Like, they also pulled the level.
[00:31:59]  He was wool over everyone's eyes.
[00:32:01]  Like, he pregnated a city.
[00:32:03]  Yeah.
[00:32:03]  There was over 50 kids.
[00:32:04]  And they were finding each other through like ancestry.
[00:32:07]  And they were like, oh, fucking, they could have been shogging each other or anything.
[00:32:10]  Do you call it pulling the wool over your eye when you put the son back?
[00:32:15]  Is that got you?
[00:32:17]  Okay.
[00:32:17]  Now, this guy, while I think he's bad, maybe he justified it by going, listen, I'm going to put this high IQ calm in these women who are having difficulty getting pregnant.
[00:32:26]  Okay, so I think there was an element of white supremacy in there as well.
[00:32:30]  Talk to me.
[00:32:31]  Because towards the end, it was like he was a very religious man.
[00:32:34]  He was like shocked.
[00:32:36]  Which religion?
[00:32:38]  He was Christian.
[00:32:38]  Catholic?
[00:32:39]  I think so.
[00:32:40]  And he was Protestant.
[00:32:42]  Catholic makes the most sense.
[00:32:43]  Catholic, huh?
[00:32:44]  Yeah.
[00:32:44]  Catholic, huh?
[00:32:45]  How point of that?
[00:32:45]  I'm like, Doug's calf.
[00:32:46]  Don't point that at me in England.
[00:32:48]  Dude, his hair is unbelievable, by the way.
[00:32:50]  Yeah, dude.
[00:32:51]  You got to see it when it's pulled back.
[00:32:54]  It's under 14.
[00:32:55]  It's crazy.
[00:32:56]  It's really sad.
[00:32:57]  I've never seen that like this.
[00:32:59]  Oh, you like that hair, though, right?
[00:33:00]  Yeah, it's nice, dude.
[00:33:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:02]  Okay.
[00:33:03]  Reminded him of some Scottish women back in the day.
[00:33:06]  Those lovely curly locks.
[00:33:07]  We love it.
[00:33:08]  Scottish women are really getting it up the ass in this one, aren't they?
[00:33:10]  They like getting it on the ass.
[00:33:11]  You think the Loch Nest monster is just a girl that is taking your son?
[00:33:18]  That is crazy what you just said right there.
[00:33:20]  That's interesting.
[00:33:21]  Do you think that's possible?
[00:33:22]  Do you believe in the Loch Nest monster?
[00:33:24]  He had sex with her from multiple times.
[00:33:26]  Yeah, a few of them.
[00:33:27]  Did you hear about that?
[00:33:29]  They say that that could have been a real thing.
[00:33:30]  Yes, I thought it was a good idea.
[00:33:32]  There's a new article come out basically.
[00:33:34]  They say it was an old dinosaur that likely just died.
[00:33:36]  Yeah.
[00:33:37]  That's why.
[00:33:37]  I mean, me and my people believe in it.
[00:33:39]  Yeah.
[00:33:39]  Yeah, your people.
[00:33:40]  Me and my people believe.
[00:33:41]  I mean, I went to it.
[00:33:43]  Why is that so hard to believe?
[00:33:44]  Sons of Scotland.
[00:33:45]  Yeah.
[00:33:46]  Yeah.
[00:33:47]  Clan Cameron, dude.
[00:33:49]  We were actually the before we were the sheep thieves and the Queen's Guard.
[00:33:55]  We were the keepers of the lock.
[00:33:58]  Oh, really?
[00:33:58]  You were the Queen's Guard.
[00:34:00]  You cuck.
[00:34:01]  Son.
[00:34:02]  You fucking.
[00:34:03]  This guy thinks because he's Indian, they got their independence by not eating that he's some fucking brave guy.
[00:34:07]  Like you didn't fight for shape.
[00:34:09]  No, have you seen you without food for six hours?
[00:34:12]  You're such a bitch.
[00:34:16]  Can I be honest with you?
[00:34:17]  I need to eat something.
[00:34:19]  If I don't eat something, I'm going to lose my fucking mind.
[00:34:21]  That's him actually.
[00:34:22]  Never have I had more respect for India than the point you just made right now.
[00:34:26]  Dude, what they did is so much easier than just shooting people.
[00:34:29]  Yeah.
[00:34:29]  Not eating it.
[00:34:30]  100%.
[00:34:31]  That is the ultimate bravery.
[00:34:32]  Especially as a man.
[00:34:33]  You're just fucking losing your mind, dude.
[00:34:34]  Dude, that is crazy.
[00:34:36]  Indian women are good looking.
[00:34:37]  Oh, yeah.
[00:34:37]  There you go.
[00:34:38]  You don't really feel that way.
[00:34:39]  Oh, really?
[00:34:40]  I do.
[00:34:40]  Wait, really?
[00:34:41]  Yeah.
[00:34:42]  Oh, shit.
[00:34:42]  Did you get in trouble or something?
[00:34:43]  You have to say that.
[00:34:44]  Some of them are lights.
[00:34:45]  Some of them.
[00:34:46]  Some of them are.
[00:34:46]  Don't you think the guys are better looking?
[00:34:48]  No.
[00:34:49]  No.
[00:34:50]  Now you know he's just saying it.
[00:34:51]  Now you know he's just saying it.
[00:34:52]  Bollywood ockresses are hot.
[00:34:54]  Come on, dude.
[00:34:54]  Come on.
[00:34:55]  There's no.
[00:34:57]  You got to show him your cousin.
[00:34:58]  So this is so fucking good looking.
[00:35:01]  It's unbelievable.
[00:35:02]  I went to his wedding with my wife.
[00:35:04]  I would have left my wife at his wedding.
[00:35:08]  Just show the picture, but make sure you show the one with the eyes.
[00:35:11]  With the eyes.
[00:35:12]  Oh, my God.
[00:35:12]  The eyes are unbelievable.
[00:35:13]  I feel like you've used this photograph.
[00:35:15]  I got it plenty of times.
[00:35:17]  He's here, right?
[00:35:18]  He is here.
[00:35:19]  Can we get a single day?
[00:35:20]  No, he left today.
[00:35:20]  He left by.
[00:35:21]  And then can we tie him up and use his whole skin?
[00:35:23]  Jeez.
[00:35:23]  I don't know.
[00:35:24]  What?
[00:35:24]  Payback, dude.
[00:35:25]  It's payback.
[00:35:27]  It's payback for money.
[00:35:28]  I call it here.
[00:35:29]  I call it here.
[00:35:30]  Come on.
[00:35:32]  Why are you showing them?
[00:35:33]  Like, they don't know what he looks like.
[00:35:35]  Why don't we show True Jordan?
[00:35:36]  I'm going to get a new picture, bro.
[00:35:37]  Because I want to find the best picture every time.
[00:35:38]  You know what I mean?
[00:35:38]  To show to show True Jordan.
[00:35:41]  Oh, yeah.
[00:35:42]  That's a handsome boy, dude.
[00:35:45]  It's the stare.
[00:35:46]  Oh, yeah.
[00:35:47]  Also, doesn't look that easy.
[00:35:49]  Honestly, that's not even, that's the most attractive part.
[00:35:52]  Yeah.
[00:35:53]  Wow.
[00:35:54]  This is not even the, this is not, honestly, this is not even the best looking picture.
[00:35:58]  You don't even get to see how blue the eyes are.
[00:35:59]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:36:00]  Find a good picture.
[00:36:01]  Okay, I'm going to find a good picture.
[00:36:02]  But, I mean, he's horrible at taking pictures.
[00:36:05]  Or maybe I was just seduced by something else because now you're flipping on him.
[00:36:11]  That's fucked up.
[00:36:11]  Wow.
[00:36:12]  I mean, we should just take a break right now and let you finish.
[00:36:15]  Let me just get this out of the system.
[00:36:17]  Here we go.
[00:36:18]  I mean, look.
[00:36:18]  Yeah.
[00:36:20]  Come on.
[00:36:21]  I mean, yeah, he got it.
[00:36:22]  He's not right now.
[00:36:22]  He's killed the dog.
[00:36:24]  How do we get into this?
[00:36:25]  Big Blue Latinas?
[00:36:26]  Yeah, I think so.
[00:36:27]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:28]  Yeah, you got to go to the States.
[00:36:29]  Yep, they don't have them in this country, unfortunately.
[00:36:31]  Yo, where do you go for ass here in Europe?
[00:36:34]  That's not.
[00:36:34]  It just doesn't exist.
[00:36:35]  Spain, apparently.
[00:36:36]  They got a little bit.
[00:36:39]  There you go.
[00:36:40]  Can we ask you a question?
[00:36:41]  Because I went to Barcelona once.
[00:36:44]  They're fucking everywhere though.
[00:36:45]  I like this.
[00:36:46]  Unbelievable.
[00:36:47]  Unbelievable.
[00:36:48]  What is the cool solution, actually?
[00:36:49]  What if, like, the migrant crisis in the U.S. that everyone talks about, all these conservatives, blah, blah, blah.
[00:36:53]  Oh, they're busting migrants, whatever, whatever.
[00:36:55]  We put them on a plane, bring them to England, and then they can get into the population and then make big booty English.
[00:37:01]  Mark, you know this for a fact that Mexican women are not known for their asses.
[00:37:05]  Well, they're not.
[00:37:06]  No.
[00:37:06]  Where do the Latinas come from with the asses?
[00:37:08]  What?
[00:37:08]  No, no.
[00:37:09]  Latinas and Mexican women with asses are very different.
[00:37:13]  The asses that the Latinas have that you're probably thinking about is Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Brazil, Colombia.
[00:37:21]  How do we get a migrant crisis with them?
[00:37:22]  We got to do that.
[00:37:23]  Yeah, that, yeah, we need that.
[00:37:25]  I mean, they would need more like boats and that kind of stuff to get here.
[00:37:28]  But Mexican women are not known for their shit.
[00:37:31]  It would be a step up for England, maybe.

=== Nate, Jake, and Three Rounds (13:03) ===

[00:37:33]  It really would be.
[00:37:33]  Can we talk about more of his beefs?
[00:37:35]  Yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:37:36]  So you had Logan, Logan, and then you guys reconciled.
[00:37:38]  You guys reconciled?
[00:37:39]  Because Logan reached out.
[00:37:41]  Well, yeah, yeah, because I made another video where basically he came after me after I was the one who basically reminded KSI, you got to call someone out, remember?
[00:37:54]  Because I was basically the guy who prompted KSI.
[00:37:57]  I was interviewing him after his fight, and I went, don't forget you were supposed to call out Logan Paul.
[00:38:01]  Oh, because he'd mentioned it beforehand to me, being like, don't let me forget this because he was all hype, you know.
[00:38:07]  And then Logan remembered that I'd made the original video on him and he was like, let me get him back for that, you know.
[00:38:12]  Called me the white DJ Colors.
[00:38:16]  But yeah, and then I did my other video back to him because I was like, I just called up the boys and I was like, right, we got the million subscriber.
[00:38:23]  It's happened because I knew I was going to do a fire video back to him.
[00:38:28]  And then he rang me up.
[00:38:29]  He was like, that was pretty good.
[00:38:30]  Fair play.
[00:38:31]  And he was so cool about it.
[00:38:32]  He appreciates content.
[00:38:33]  No, yeah, he knows what he's doing.
[00:38:35]  So then I was like, when you come to the UK, we'll get you on the podcast.
[00:38:39]  But he did a video with Casey Neistat where Casey had went in on him right afterwards and he didn't really give him a chance to talk.
[00:38:46]  And Casey just annihilated him on that video.
[00:38:48]  And I was like, okay, I'll give you an actual chance here.
[00:38:51]  And then that was when I think he respected that.
[00:38:54]  You know what I mean?
[00:38:55]  So that went well.
[00:38:57]  Beef-wise, I don't know.
[00:38:58]  Who else has there been?
[00:38:59]  Wait, but how much did Logan pay you for you to say that he won three rounds against Mayweather?
[00:39:04]  You like that?
[00:39:05]  Yeah, how much did he pay?
[00:39:07]  It depends on what you're classing as winning rounds.
[00:39:09]  I class it as out-punching your opponent.
[00:39:11]  What are you classing it as?
[00:39:12]  No, but you actually have to connect.
[00:39:14]  He can throw a lot of points.
[00:39:16]  But he's not getting anything.
[00:39:17]  Mayweather did his thing where he didn't do a great deal because he was waiting for Logan to do what Conor McGregor did, which is tire out.
[00:39:25]  And then he started walking him down.
[00:39:26]  And Mayweather just couldn't hurt him.
[00:39:29]  That was a problem.
[00:39:30]  It's not about hurting.
[00:39:30]  It's about to connect more.
[00:39:32]  Like, Mayweather had more shots that he actually had.
[00:39:34]  Why are you bothered about it?
[00:39:35]  No, I feel like you're bothered.
[00:39:39]  What difference does it make to you whether Logan took rounds off Mayweather?
[00:39:42]  You're a truth teller.
[00:39:43]  And I was like, I haven't seen the team look on Alan.
[00:39:46]  Why are you so bothered by it?
[00:39:47]  Yeah, it's the first time you lied.
[00:39:50]  Invest Smith in Floyd for whatever reason.
[00:39:52]  Do you think he won three rounds?
[00:39:54]  I 100% think he won three rounds.
[00:39:56]  I also think Connor won three rounds.
[00:39:58]  I think Mayweather, as he's gotten older, is just slowing the fuck down.
[00:40:01]  And even the point is, is what we were told beforehand was Mayweather do whatever he wants to win.
[00:40:08]  He'll win whenever he wants.
[00:40:09]  He'll put him down whenever he wants.
[00:40:10]  That was not the truth.
[00:40:11]  You even got a footage of him in the corner.
[00:40:14]  Whereas Corner going to Floyd, you got hit him with a job.
[00:40:17]  Floyd's going, it's fucking hard to hit him with a job, bro.
[00:40:19]  He's six for fucking two.
[00:40:20]  Yeah.
[00:40:20]  I'm a midget.
[00:40:21]  Yeah.
[00:40:21]  You know what I mean?
[00:40:22]  So I just think Logan, but whatever happened in that fight, like Logan showed how good he is in terms of a kid who just picked up boxing.
[00:40:30]  Dude, it's unbelievable that he lasted that long.
[00:40:32]  I don't think people really get it.
[00:40:33]  And I think it was the cardio.
[00:40:34]  Absolutely.
[00:40:35]  It's like if the cardio holds up, he still has the size and he hits hard enough where Floyd had to respect it.
[00:40:41]  But he just didn't get tired.
[00:40:43]  I told him before that fight said, Logan, whatever you do, first round, do not empty the clip.
[00:40:48]  Do not do that.
[00:40:48]  What do you think watching the first round?
[00:40:53]  Floyd baits you into that.
[00:40:55]  He's such a clever little bastard, isn't he?
[00:40:57]  But look, I think for those who don't know what it's like to be in a ring with an old head who can manage his energy and walk you down and like old man you, it was it must have been hard for Logan to do that.
[00:41:07]  And I think that he's the only guy out of all the YouTube boxers who probably could have, I don't know, maybe Jake, but Jake's a different kind of fighter.
[00:41:15]  Yeah.
[00:41:16]  He would have gone for the knockout and that would have ended up either good or very bad.
[00:41:21]  Yeah, I think there's another thing that like I believe that Logan convinced himself that he was going to win.
[00:41:29]  And you need to do that in order to train that hard.
[00:41:31]  That being said, I think that he also accepted that a win was survival.
[00:41:37]  Absolutely.
[00:41:37]  And I think after a couple rounds of being hit by Mayweather, but not being hurt and not being dominated and feeling good on cardio, where most people in a normal, regular fight would be like, fuck, I'm losing.
[00:41:50]  How am I going to change this?
[00:41:51]  I think the fact that he wasn't being so dominated, he actually got excited.
[00:41:56]  Yeah, he was losing rounds, maybe, or maybe he was getting tagged.
[00:41:58]  But the fact that he wasn't like hurt, I think the key is in the last round or two, you could say Floyd turned it down a notch.
[00:42:06]  He was like, I ain't going to get this guy over here.
[00:42:07]  I'm not going to do it.
[00:42:09]  And the last thing I want to do is get tired and end up getting my head hurt.
[00:42:12]  You know what I mean?
[00:42:13]  So I'll look at Logan.
[00:42:15]  I think the only problem with him in the ring is his state of mind.
[00:42:18]  I don't think he's a killer.
[00:42:20]  Like, he has all the talent, but Jake is a dick.
[00:42:22]  Jake is dark.
[00:42:23]  You know what I mean?
[00:42:24]  He wants to hurt you.
[00:42:25]  And he also knows he could turn you out.
[00:42:26]  If the lights go off, that's why he can turn you out.
[00:42:28]  I'm convinced that's why.
[00:42:30]  Like, I don't think it's necessarily like Deontay Wilder.
[00:42:34]  You look at him, you think, you really should not be able to hurt that guy the way you do, but he's he wants to kill you.
[00:42:40]  Yeah, he's even said that.
[00:42:41]  So I think that when you have that darkness, it helps.
[00:42:43]  But yeah, I also think when you know you have the ability to do it, you lean into it more.
[00:42:50]  Absolutely.
[00:42:50]  And I think that Logan probably fancies himself a little bit more of like a slick boxer.
[00:42:54]  Whereas Jake goes, if I sit down on this right hand, it's night night.
[00:42:59]  And he probably saw it happen over and over again.
[00:43:01]  What did you make of the Jake versus Hasim Raman Jr. situation?
[00:43:06]  I didn't want it.
[00:43:06]  I didn't want it at all.
[00:43:07]  Jake needs, in my opinion, and I love Jake.
[00:43:09]  I think Jake needs to be the enemy on a card.
[00:43:11]  I think that he needs to be the villain, you know.
[00:43:13]  And I think that you need to want to see him get beat up in the same way that people wanted to see Floyd get beat up.
[00:43:19]  So the best case scenario for a Jake is if he's fighting somebody that's incredibly well-liked.
[00:43:25]  KSI, yeah.
[00:43:26]  KSI or Nate Diaz.
[00:43:28]  KSI in this country is like nothing in America.
[00:43:33]  Like he is huge.
[00:43:34]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:43:34]  He is loved.
[00:43:35]  And he's fighting soon.
[00:43:37]  He's going to fight swarms.
[00:43:38]  Yeah, this guy swarms.
[00:43:40]  I have no idea who the fuck is.
[00:43:41]  What are your thoughts on that?
[00:43:42]  Why not fight Jake right now?
[00:43:43]  We talked to him the other day.
[00:43:44]  We had him on the pod the other day.
[00:43:45]  He was fucking phenomenal.
[00:43:46]  Great.
[00:43:48]  But it was one of those things where it's like, now Jake's canceled bout, and then you have a canceled bout.
[00:43:53]  This is a great opportunity to do it.
[00:43:56]  But then again, he's been inactive for a while.
[00:43:59]  Jake's been doing high-level stuff.
[00:44:01]  Like, you know, he's flatlined UFC champions.
[00:44:04]  And JJ has never quite hit that level yet because he only fought Logan, then took a big break for his music.
[00:44:10]  But that fight, right?
[00:44:11]  That'll do like, we'll sell Wembley out.
[00:44:14]  when that happens.
[00:44:15]  Like, it'll be like Anthony Joshua level fight.
[00:44:18]  It'll be fucking massive.
[00:44:19]  Yeah, that's a million bucks.
[00:44:20]  It's a mental considering this all started from a couple of little YouTubers just pissed for me.
[00:44:25]  Here's a question.
[00:44:26]  I actually meant to ask JJ this, but then we got caught up just having fun.
[00:44:30]  How many guys have done more for boxing than KSI in the past 30 years?
[00:44:35]  It sounds crazy.
[00:44:36]  Yeah.
[00:44:37]  But in terms of just like bringing a lot of money into it, and then now Jake is fighting for fighter pay and like better care for fighters.
[00:44:45]  All this stuff happened off of a couple of YouTubers, KSI, forget the other guy's name, being like, hey, let's box.
[00:44:50]  That's what turned this whole thing.
[00:44:52]  It really changed everything.
[00:44:54]  Mate, it's so bizarre.
[00:44:55]  But I never thought, to be honest with you, when it all started, I was interviewing these guys right before they had their first ever fights.
[00:45:01]  And I never thought they'd actually fight real boxers.
[00:45:03]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:45:04]  And a lot of people now are like, yeah, but he was a UFC guy.
[00:45:07]  I'm like, this guy started punching three years ago.
[00:45:10]  He just knocked out the wealth away champion of the world in the UFC.
[00:45:13]  Like, if we'd said that when that was being, when these guys were having their first fights and not looking great, people had said you were full of shit.
[00:45:20]  So I think that people are, people just adjust to the now very quickly.
[00:45:24]  Like, obviously you're saying, Logan, oh, he didn't win any rounds against Floyd.
[00:45:28]  I'm like, listen to what we're saying here.
[00:45:30]  This is Logan Paul.
[00:45:32]  The Disney kid in a ring with Floyd.
[00:45:34]  Can I tell you why it bothered him so much?
[00:45:36]  I just put it together.
[00:45:37]  If a white guy with no boxing experience took three rounds off of the greatest black, if a boxer ever, but also happens to be black, that really is a blow to the fact that white people can't fight.
[00:45:49]  Because that's something Ali is the white people can't fight.
[00:45:52]  Alex thinks he might be able to beat you up.
[00:45:54]  I think Floyd has always loved the white guy versus the black guy theme.
[00:45:58]  That's why he made the Conor McGregor fight.
[00:45:59]  Yeah, I think he knows it makes a lot of money.
[00:46:01]  Oh, yeah, he knows.
[00:46:01]  Those are the highest-grossing fights always.
[00:46:03]  You think if Connor's black, he doesn't take the fight.
[00:46:06]  Yeah, I agree.
[00:46:07]  I think it needed that element.
[00:46:10]  Because Floyd's a businessman, he understands what it triggers people on a level.
[00:46:14]  As much as the average guy doesn't give...
[00:46:17]  I don't know.
[00:46:18]  I think maybe the average guy does get invested by that.
[00:46:20]  I don't know, but I don't.
[00:46:22]  Yeah, I think there's multiple storylines.
[00:46:24]  I think with boxing specifically or fight sports specifically, you need like fan base.
[00:46:28]  It's almost like football or soccer.
[00:46:30]  You need like the entrenched fan base.
[00:46:32]  Yeah, it needs to be tribal.
[00:46:34]  And I think that's why the biggest fights now are like Mexico versus Philippines.
[00:46:37]  Do you know what I think?
[00:46:38]  I wanted to be to be a champion so fucking badly, I can't even explain it.
[00:46:42]  And he's Pakistani.
[00:46:43]  He's English, but Pakistani origin.
[00:46:45]  I want him to be champion so fucking badly.
[00:46:48]  It was unbelievable.
[00:46:49]  You would root for Manny Pacquiao because he was closer to India because he's Asian.
[00:46:52]  We'll continue to do so.
[00:46:53]  Yes.
[00:46:55]  So at the end of the day, yeah, you can't ring.
[00:46:57]  What am I getting rich?
[00:46:58]  Podcast fights.
[00:46:59]  He did a whole lot of people.
[00:46:59]  I'm fucking 35, man.
[00:47:01]  Fuck that.
[00:47:02]  I train, but I'm not like...
[00:47:04]  My ego isn't there anymore.
[00:47:06]  Do you know when these young 20-something lads are like looking at each other?
[00:47:09]  I'm like, I don't give a fuck if you could beat me up anyway.
[00:47:11]  Like, I don't even...
[00:47:13]  It's just fun for me.
[00:47:14]  Well, success definitely satisfies that part of the ego.
[00:47:16]  If you were 22, would you have done it?
[00:47:18]  Oh, absolutely.
[00:47:18]  I would have been challenging every fucker.
[00:47:20]  My ego back then was so different to what it is now.
[00:47:23]  Now, when people talk shit about me on the internet, I'm like, cool.
[00:47:26]  Okay, then.
[00:47:28]  Because it's different.
[00:47:29]  If someone's in your face talking shit to you, that's one thing.
[00:47:32]  But if someone's talking shit on their YouTube channel, I know they're just doing it for the views and all that.
[00:47:36]  So I'm like, I know they want a response from me so I can help build a...
[00:47:41]  That was why when Logan bit, I was like, got him.
[00:47:44]  Yeah.
[00:47:45]  Fucking yes.
[00:47:46]  But I'm now happy where I am.
[00:47:49]  Yeah, I mean, I'm not bothered about any of that.
[00:47:51]  I've heard you say you have a chip on your shoulder.
[00:47:53]  Do you still have that?
[00:47:54]  And if so, how do you reconcile that with, okay, but I'm still not going to get affected by this internet shit?
[00:47:59]  I've got a chip on my shoulder about getting like respected as a content creator.
[00:48:03]  That sort of shit.
[00:48:04]  Like, I guess like a comedian would, when you, you know, when you feel like you're the guy as a comedian, you want people to recognize that.
[00:48:12]  It makes you better at what you do.
[00:48:14]  It makes you put that time and energy in that the next guy isn't doing.
[00:48:18]  So I think that's a healthy way to have your ego make you work harder.
[00:48:21]  But it's when people trick you into doing dumb shit that your ego is not under control.
[00:48:26]  For example, like me agreeing to fight fucking the heavyweight champion of the world or some dumb shit like that.
[00:48:31]  You know what I mean?
[00:48:32]  I don't know.
[00:48:32]  Like that, I think that's what we see with some of these young guys is they get in the ring and before they know it, they're like, fuck, I don't know how to fucking box.
[00:48:40]  Jake Paul fucking does.
[00:48:41]  And all of a sudden, he's knocking out Nate Robinson because Nate Robinson's looking at him going, I'm an athlete.
[00:48:46]  Jake's like, cool.
[00:48:47]  Yeah, good for you.
[00:48:47]  All right, mate.
[00:48:48]  We'll see how that works out for you.
[00:48:49]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:48:50]  I think that KSI Jake Paul fight is kind of inevitable at this point.
[00:48:53]  If you had to make a prediction on that, what would you say?
[00:48:56]  Right now, Jake Paul's the better boxer.
[00:48:59]  But I think Jake and JJ mentally are very similar.
[00:49:05]  They're both evil motherfuckers.
[00:49:07]  They both have that like that nastiness in them.
[00:49:09]  They both want to hurt people.
[00:49:11]  They both take enjoyment out of knocking other people out.
[00:49:14]  So I think that by the time that's why JJ is taking his time to get there, by the time it happens, I think they're almost the same height, same size, same reach, same.
[00:49:24]  So it's going to be really interesting because they're both like kings of their own sides of the globe and all that.
[00:49:31]  So it's very hard.
[00:49:32]  It's like a flip of a coin at that point.
[00:49:34]  There's a, you know, we were talking to Jake and Jake seems concerned about fighting a quote-unquote real boxer.
[00:49:42]  Yeah, that's ego.
[00:49:43]  And that's ego.
[00:49:44]  Oh, yeah.
[00:49:45]  And I said to him, I was like, fuck what these people think.
[00:49:47]  Fuck them.
[00:49:48]  If you're going in there, you're risking your life.
[00:49:49]  Make the big money fights.
[00:49:51]  Fight Nate Diaz, man.
[00:49:52]  Fight Nate.
[00:49:52]  Fight JJ.
[00:49:54]  But just who cares what the average person is trying to discredit you thinks?
[00:49:57]  Because no matter what you do, they're going to discredit you.
[00:50:00]  Tam Woodley.
[00:50:01]  It's a classic example.
[00:50:02]  No one would have thought you'd even get in the ring with him.
[00:50:04]  He flatlined him.
[00:50:05]  And I was like, he's an MMA.
[00:50:06]  He's a washed-up MMA guy.
[00:50:07]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:50:08]  You never did a floor.
[00:50:09]  Even now, he doesn't get respect, really, but it's always something.
[00:50:13]  He fought Manny Pacquiao.
[00:50:14]  Yeah, that's what they were all saying then.
[00:50:15]  Oh, yeah, you fought him too late.
[00:50:17]  It's always going to be something.
[00:50:18]  People don't want to like you, they're not going to like you.
[00:50:19]  They're going to find another 50 million fighting this year and live.
[00:50:23]  Protect your brain.
[00:50:24]  Yeah, check the ego.
[00:50:26]  That's an interesting thing because when I was doing just some like more background research on you, I definitely felt that you do have a chip on your shoulder about like this acceptance.
[00:50:34]  But I think you're a working class guy in the UK.

=== Roasting DMs and Ego (15:30) ===

[00:50:37]  And there's not really.
[00:50:38]  So in UK YouTube podcasting, they're all from a certain class upwards.
[00:50:46]  You know, how else do you get all these equipment and all this shit?
[00:50:48]  Like, you know, the biggest YouTuber, I was like, JJ went to private school.
[00:50:51]  Yeah.
[00:50:52]  You know, like he's been very fortunate in life.
[00:50:54]  So I kind of felt more of like a hunger that and you know, that sort of doesn't leave you like.
[00:51:02]  This is a Billy Elliott of podcasts.
[00:51:03]  I'm literally from where he was from.
[00:51:05]  Except the way that he was.
[00:51:06]  Yeah, Billy Elliott.
[00:51:07]  Yeah, they literally auditioned for that at my school, man.
[00:51:10]  No way.
[00:51:10]  They were trying to get like random kids to go.
[00:51:12]  No way.
[00:51:13]  I was like, fuck that.
[00:51:14]  I'm not going to be an actor.
[00:51:17]  Okay.
[00:51:18]  So, because I was looking, I was seeing, and I think a lot of times we battle this.
[00:51:23]  This feeling of like wanting acceptance from like mainstream media because it's such an institution that we grew up watching and seeing and embracing ourselves.
[00:51:34]  And then valuing the acceptance and the success that we've created ourselves outside of that.
[00:51:40]  And I think eventually, at least that's how I felt is eventually you realize this thing over here that we want validation for.
[00:51:50]  We want to do the traditional route.
[00:51:51]  I'm a comic.
[00:51:52]  I should have a sitcom.
[00:51:53]  I should do these things.
[00:51:54]  Once we realize it doesn't make us feel happy and there's no joy in it, I think that we really start to embrace this section that we've created ourselves.
[00:52:03]  Agree.
[00:52:03]  Especially because it's the future.
[00:52:04]  And I wonder when that will, because I think there's a little part of you still that's like, I want the big deal or I want the thing to set me off where it's like, even if you get the big deal, you're still working.
[00:52:16]  Like you've created the thing that all these people over here really want.
[00:52:20]  They don't want to go to these fucking Hollywood parties and like kiss each other's ass and like talk about like how they feel about gender politics.
[00:52:26]  They're like, fuck that.
[00:52:27]  I want to curse with my friends and talk about soccer.
[00:52:30]  I want to interview the most interesting people.
[00:52:32]  When do you think you're going to get to the point where you're like, oh, fuck, I have the thing that I want.
[00:52:36]  No, I think I'm there now.
[00:52:37]  I just don't have the cash.
[00:52:38]  I want the money now.
[00:52:39]  That's the rest of it.
[00:52:41]  Because what does the money do?
[00:52:42]  The money gives you the freedom.
[00:52:43]  Yeah.
[00:52:43]  And that's all I want, really.
[00:52:45]  The fuck you money is all I want.
[00:52:47]  I don't, but it took me like years to get to that point, but I'm there now.
[00:52:51]  Fuck you is such an interesting way of looking at it because it's really not fuck you.
[00:52:54]  It's almost like no thank you.
[00:52:56]  Yeah.
[00:52:56]  When you have real money, it's like, hey, we'd like you to come.
[00:52:59]  We'd like you to come watch this game that you may or may not be interested in.
[00:53:03]  And you go, no, thank you.
[00:53:04]  Yeah.
[00:53:05]  Yeah.
[00:53:05]  I can say no thank you to whatever I want.
[00:53:07]  I only need to do things or I only get to have to do things I want to do.
[00:53:11]  I don't have to do anything because I need the money or whatever.
[00:53:13]  Now, here's the thing.
[00:53:13]  This is also my drive, right?
[00:53:15]  Because we're fortunate where we're doing things that we love, right?
[00:53:18]  Like I built a career doing the things I love.
[00:53:20]  If I have to work, I might as well love doing it.
[00:53:22]  And I think I can figure it out.
[00:53:23]  If I just wanted to make money, I'll work for a fucking bank or something like that.
[00:53:25]  But I want to do this.
[00:53:26]  But in my mind, I'm like, there's this goal where I go, I want the no thank you.
[00:53:30]  I want the fuck you money.
[00:53:33]  I wonder if when I get there, there's still the same feeling.
[00:53:38]  And I've just created an arbitrary goal to drive me and push me.
[00:53:42]  What I've noticed tends to happen, and this scares me, you have a number in your mind.
[00:53:46]  100 million.
[00:53:47]  Let's just say that's it.
[00:53:48]  Oh, yeah, they get it.
[00:53:48]  100 million.
[00:53:49]  You get 100 million and now you're like, ah, it's 200 million, really.
[00:53:53]  100 million is not enough to do what I really want to do.
[00:53:55]  You get to 100, you're like, boats cost like 50 million.
[00:53:58]  You know, we talked about Floyd earlier, and I think that that's what people like Floyd and Connor, they spend as much as they make so that that drive is never ending.
[00:54:05]  It's almost like you're creating a problem to solve this.
[00:54:07]  This is really interesting.
[00:54:08]  They're not spending because they can't control it.
[00:54:10]  They know that that is the motivating factor.
[00:54:13]  Oh, you're constantly creating discomfort.
[00:54:15]  Yes, the discomfort drives them.
[00:54:16]  They grew up in chaos.
[00:54:17]  They grew up with nothing.
[00:54:18]  If you're a kid who's poor, you have no fucking food, you're on fucking food stamps like Connor, he doesn't know how to grind when he has all the, what is it, the creature comforts that he could possibly demand.
[00:54:29]  So he buys a fucking Lamborghini boat.
[00:54:31]  He can't afford to put him in a home.
[00:54:32]  I did the same thing on a smaller scale.
[00:54:34]  When I first started getting money, I bought fucking.
[00:54:35]  I heard this.
[00:54:36]  It's crazy.
[00:54:36]  I got a McLaren.
[00:54:38]  I got like three cars in the space of like a year.
[00:54:41]  And it was like, what the afterwards, after I was driving around with the top down, I had the thrill.
[00:54:44]  I was like, what the fuck am I doing?
[00:54:46]  This is mental.
[00:54:47]  But then the one person who seems like immune to that is Joe Rogan.
[00:54:51]  He did the 100 million deal.
[00:54:52]  Same fucking bloke, same life, same everything.
[00:54:55]  Joe is.
[00:54:55]  Nothing changed.
[00:54:56]  Yeah.
[00:54:57]  The legit, and I know that you really admire Joe.
[00:55:00]  He's the guy who got me into it, basically.
[00:55:02]  Yeah.
[00:55:04]  He, you know how they say like, don't meet your heroes?
[00:55:06]  Meet Joe.
[00:55:08]  Because he is the guy.
[00:55:12]  And I mean that, like, has the money to do whatever the fuck he wants and does whatever the fuck he wants.
[00:55:18]  I wish I could be like more like that because of my ego.
[00:55:20]  Like I like to talk shit and I like to like act a bit arrogant.
[00:55:23]  He never really does that.
[00:55:25]  He could flex on everyone.
[00:55:26]  I think he doesn't really get the martial arts, bro.
[00:55:28]  I think like you have, you, you come up in that community and there's a humility to it.
[00:55:32]  It's like you've experienced getting fucked up.
[00:55:34]  Like he's in jujitsu every single week where a guy could literally take his life away.
[00:55:38]  It's hard to be that cocky, arrogant motherfucker when a guy almost took your fucking life.
[00:55:43]  He also had 20 years of like growing before he ended up in podcasting.
[00:55:47]  Whereas I had to, I've made, I've said a lot of dumb shit in my podcast.
[00:55:52]  In this podcast, this is, this is, you know, no, this is something interesting.
[00:55:56]  It's like experiencing fame and then losing it is super valuable, just like experiencing money and then losing it.
[00:56:02]  You know, like I, you know, you probably were killing it.
[00:56:05]  Then you went through tough patch, right?
[00:56:08]  The fact that you learned you can make it again is empowering, right?
[00:56:12]  You're like, oh, I can, I'll risk everything now.
[00:56:14]  I knew I could get this bread.
[00:56:15]  Like that is valuable.
[00:56:16]  But also you learn how dumb it is to spend.
[00:56:18]  I've heard you talk about this in other podcasts, the cars.
[00:56:21]  Like it's clear you learned how dumb that was.
[00:56:23]  So now that you know you can make it back and you're not going to spend it like that, you know you can take the risks and you know how to manage it when you get it.
[00:56:29]  It's super valuable.
[00:56:30]  So look at this.
[00:56:30]  So you look at it like money.
[00:56:31]  You're like, okay, I got it.
[00:56:33]  Having some fame and then losing it makes it so much easier to handle fame.
[00:56:39]  Ah.
[00:56:40]  So earlier in my career, I'm not talking about this like fame.
[00:56:42]  I don't even like using the word, but like some people knew who I was because I was on some MTV shows.
[00:56:47]  The MTV show stopped and then way less people knew who I was.
[00:56:51]  And I got to reflect on what that was like.
[00:56:54]  I got to reflect on my behavior.
[00:56:56]  You know, at this time, I was trying to like live up to an expectation of myself.
[00:57:00]  That went away.
[00:57:00]  And I was like, oh, I was worried about letting these people down.
[00:57:04]  Is that important to me?
[00:57:05]  Does it matter if I let them down?
[00:57:07]  Was I representing myself in the right way?
[00:57:09]  Like I got to reflect on this time.
[00:57:10]  So when it came back up again, I was way more ready and comfortable for it.
[00:57:15]  I actually didn't mind it when it went away.
[00:57:16]  So I wasn't afraid of it going away.
[00:57:18]  I was creating things that I was really proud of and represented exactly who I was.
[00:57:23]  So if you hated me for my content, I was okay with that because I was being me.
[00:57:26]  And I wonder if you haven't noticed it go away.
[00:57:30]  If you've only gotten more and more and more and more famous.
[00:57:33]  I wonder if there's like a pressure where you go, could it go away?
[00:57:36]  And what would you like to do?
[00:57:37]  You know what?
[00:57:38]  I'm fearless in that regard.
[00:57:40]  I literally don't want to be famous, don't care about fame in any way, shape, or like, all right, it's cool when people come saying like they like stuff or whatever.
[00:57:47]  But if anything, I actively try not to be.
[00:57:51]  I'm quite like a head down, don't really try and make a big scene of myself when I'm out.
[00:57:56]  But because I'm a big guy, everyone's like, fuck.
[00:57:59]  You know what I mean?
[00:58:00]  But yeah, I think that's why you could do what you did when you were like, no, I'm just going to release it on my own website and all that.
[00:58:07]  Like that lack of fear, it's the best feeling in the world, I think, when you're a content creator because otherwise you're letting other people dictate the art.
[00:58:17]  You're letting other people sort of shape you.
[00:58:19]  And you can't do that.
[00:58:20]  You have to follow.
[00:58:21]  I never ask people what I think of what they like.
[00:58:23]  I don't want to hear.
[00:58:24]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:58:25]  In that regard, unless I respect someone or they're in my league or whatever, not asking the audience, what should I do next?
[00:58:33]  You can't.
[00:58:34]  And Ricky Gervais said that to me, good name dropper.
[00:58:37]  He's like, you've got to turn your back on the audience to conduct the orchestra sort of thing.
[00:58:42]  And like that, that is the fucking truth.
[00:58:45]  Because ultimately, if they want the authentic version of yourself, that's what they're gravitating towards.
[00:58:52]  You can't be authentically you by asking them what they want to hear.
[00:58:55]  And that's my, I think that's where my strength comes from in my content is like, I am not scared to cry like anything.
[00:59:04]  I would tell people my darkest secrets.
[00:59:06]  I'm not frightened of letting that all go because I don't care what people really think.
[00:59:11]  Bro, that in that regard.
[00:59:12]  The way you handled the DMs, that was, and who is that guy who did the roast?
[00:59:18]  That was funny.
[00:59:19]  My boy Steven Treisman.
[00:59:20]  You're going to love him.
[00:59:22]  He's a stand-up comedian, but like he's young.
[00:59:24]  So like he's still.
[00:59:26]  I mean, he had some good jokes.
[00:59:28]  This is really funny.
[00:59:29]  But Stephen's funnier off-camera when he can say the wild shit, you know?
[00:59:33]  But you guys have to meet Steven.
[00:59:35]  I got to meet him.
[00:59:35]  Absolutely.
[00:59:36]  Okay, so these DMs come out where you're saying crazy shit.
[00:59:39]  Oh, yeah.
[00:59:39]  Like, this is the worst DMs ever, right?
[00:59:42]  Bro, it sounded like you were like someone stole your phone.
[00:59:45]  Well, do you know what it was?
[00:59:46]  You could have said my boy stole my phone.
[00:59:47]  Nah, nah, but I didn't.
[00:59:48]  I didn't want to, because that was.
[00:59:49]  But it was so wild, we would have believed it.
[00:59:51]  That would give power, though, to other people.
[00:59:53]  And I was like, you know what?
[00:59:54]  Do I really want to let someone else have this over me?
[00:59:57]  Because like, I was drunk as fuck at the time.
[01:00:00]  Like, naturally, you know, when I was lit.
[01:00:04]  So then.
[01:00:05]  But also, but also everything I'm saying, it doesn't necessarily mean I want to do it.
[01:00:11]  But in the moment, I was like, yeah, let's see how wild I could take this with this girl.
[01:00:14]  Yeah, I don't know if anyone else has been there when you're like, you're playing this game with a girl where you're like, she says something wild.
[01:00:20]  And then before you know it, you're like, fuck me, she's wild.
[01:00:22]  Let me see if I can say something even crazier.
[01:00:25]  And it went.
[01:00:26]  You won.
[01:00:27]  I won.
[01:00:28]  Although she erased what she was saying.
[01:00:30]  So maybe I didn't.
[01:00:31]  So what did she say?
[01:00:32]  Like, how did it happen?
[01:00:33]  Can you have to protect herself?
[01:00:35]  It's a long story, but I barely even knew what this person had, right?
[01:00:39]  So like, you know, when I was like, yeah, I don't really want to carry on talking to you.
[01:00:45]  That was when it was like, oh, I'm going to fucking ruin your life now.
[01:00:48]  You know.
[01:00:49]  Oh, so that is revenge porn.
[01:00:52]  Yeah, but men don't get sympathy like that.
[01:00:54]  We don't get sympathy.
[01:00:55]  Do you know why?
[01:00:56]  When you're six foot four, you're a 300-pound guy, people just think you're bulletproof and that you can take any old shit.
[01:01:01]  And I realized I was like, oh, there's a double standard.
[01:01:05]  Yeah, there's a double standard, though, because if I'd been a woman and a guy just like me, oh, the violins would have come out.
[01:01:13]  Yeah.
[01:01:13]  They would literally, in America, there's a revenge porn.
[01:01:16]  Because I'm a man.
[01:01:17]  And I had to sort of rationalize that and go, okay.
[01:01:20]  Yeah.
[01:01:20]  This is how the world works.
[01:01:22]  So the DMs get leaked, and the first episode back, you have your buddy on to do a roast about everything they saw.
[01:01:29]  Yeah, because I was just like, I'm going to get this out in the because I'm not scared of like laughing about it.
[01:01:34]  I was like, yeah, I mean, okay, let's go there.
[01:01:37]  And then afterwards, I was like, right, next show after that, it was like it never fucking happened.
[01:01:41]  And then the funniest bit was like, so I got all my guys to roast me.
[01:01:45]  When Logan lost his fight against JJ, he did the same thing.
[01:01:48]  And I was like, ah, I'm the influencer.
[01:01:50]  The influencers.
[01:01:51]  Yeah, because if you say the worst shit about yourself, what the fuck are they going to say?
[01:01:54]  It's eight mile.
[01:01:56]  Eight mile.
[01:01:56]  That was what I thought.
[01:01:57]  I was just like, I'm going to do it first.
[01:01:58]  Yeah.
[01:01:59]  Get it out in the open.
[01:02:00]  But also, like, messages.
[01:02:02]  It's not like there was anything real, but like, you know what?
[01:02:05]  Like, dirty messages sound funny, regardless.
[01:02:08]  If it's someone you know and you're like, fuck.
[01:02:10]  Yeah, but that cost you, that cost you like millions.
[01:02:13]  People don't know this because you didn't talk about it publicly.
[01:02:16]  He had a deal on the table.
[01:02:17]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:02:18]  Millions.
[01:02:19]  No, so that wasn't what cost me the money.
[01:02:22]  But it, so basically it was, I lost a deal that week that was worth millions in the long term.
[01:02:32]  Not necessarily making me millions, but the company and the boys, and we would have been looked after.
[01:02:37]  And then that happened afterwards.
[01:02:39]  So in one week, I lost a multi-million pound deal.
[01:02:43]  And then everyone was talking shit about me.
[01:02:45]  And I was like, fuck, this is like the worst feeling in the world right now.
[01:02:50]  Because I come from nothing.
[01:02:51]  So to have that ripped away from you and then have everyone laughing at you at the same time.
[01:02:56]  But I think that that's a testament to how strong I am.
[01:02:58]  Where I'm like, I'm just going to take it on the chin and laugh about it and then move on.
[01:03:03]  Okay.
[01:03:04]  Now, the next girl you're trying to hook up with.
[01:03:08]  Bro.
[01:03:09]  Real talk.
[01:03:10]  Does she come through with the dilly?
[01:03:12]  Real talk.
[01:03:13]  Real talk.
[01:03:14]  You would not believe how many girls are like, man, I like those DMs.
[01:03:17]  I don't give a fuck.
[01:03:21]  I was like, all these boys taking the piss out of me?
[01:03:23]  You're a Black Panther.
[01:03:24]  You can't even get your girl to suck your dick.
[01:03:25]  I've got girls willing to fucking do backflips onto mine.
[01:03:29]  Shut the fuck up.
[01:03:30]  Honestly.
[01:03:31]  You're laughing at me.
[01:03:32]  Laugh at what I'm dealing with in my life.
[01:03:35]  Okay, so like, you know how it's like anything that should be bad for you ends up becoming gold.
[01:03:40]  Have you noticed that?
[01:03:42]  But that's because I don't let it destroy me.
[01:03:45]  Whatever it is that you're doing with it, it's working out.
[01:03:47]  But the fact that people love someone who's just willing to be laughed at and go, yeah, fuck it, that's me.
[01:03:52]  You have to have a sense of humor about it.
[01:03:53]  And it takes the power away from people because the fear as creators.
[01:03:56]  Look, let's take someone who did something like actually fucking a bit dodgy, which was that Chris Delia situation, right?
[01:04:02]  Yeah.
[01:04:02]  This guy evaporated, right?
[01:04:04]  He's now just like Brendan Shaw's right-hand man or whatever the fuck's going on over here.
[01:04:09]  Like he hid away.
[01:04:11]  When you show weakness like that, that's when the rest of the world are like.
[01:04:15]  Oh, you guilty.
[01:04:16]  He did something.
[01:04:16]  He did it.
[01:04:17]  And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, wait, there, wait, there.
[01:04:19]  I'm talking to a grown woman about some dirty shit.
[01:04:22]  Yeah, it's funny, but I ain't done anything wrong.
[01:04:23]  That's the important part here.
[01:04:24]  Well, grown woman.
[01:04:25]  That's the important part.
[01:04:27]  Well-grown.
[01:04:28]  Big ass tickets.
[01:04:31]  Well, well-grown.
[01:04:32]  No, I think it was a brilliant win.
[01:04:33]  I think if you look at other people who have addressed situations like straight on, like you look at like Portnoy, the way he handled, you know, Dave Porter from Barstall.
[01:04:42]  He took that shit on, like, I would have taken it on.
[01:04:44]  And here's the thing: the beautiful thing is that you let people know, yo, there's a cost to talking shit about me.
[01:04:48]  Oh, yeah.
[01:04:49]  Are you like, and I even, we talk about this with Jake a lot with his fights.
[01:04:52]  It's like, fighting Jake Paul isn't just in the ring.
[01:04:55]  It's the lead up where everything that you've ever done in your life is going to be fucking brought up.
[01:04:59]  It's going to be horrible.
[01:05:00]  He's going to put you through.
[01:05:01]  This shit just happened right now, by the way.
[01:05:02]  So KSI is the guy who KSI is fighting.
[01:05:05]  Yeah.
[01:05:05]  People have been through his likes on Twitter.
[01:05:07]  Uh-oh.
[01:05:07]  Full of fucking like wild porno shit and all that.
[01:05:11]  I'm like, mate, you should have fucking cleaned everything before this was a matter of time.
[01:05:15]  You can't address it head on if you actually did some shit that's immoral.
[01:05:18]  Exactly.
[01:05:19]  That is actually wrong.
[01:05:20]  Yeah.
[01:05:20]  You know what I mean?
[01:05:21]  Yeah.
[01:05:21]  No, that's that is the fucking thing.
[01:05:22]  We just had Louis on the pod like last week, right?
[01:05:25]  You know, Louisa K, right?
[01:05:26]  And that was the thing that we didn't talk about, but I did want to talk about him, which was like, I just wish you said what absolute bullshit this was immediately.
[01:05:35]  Because when you publicly apologize, even if you're apologizing for what you did, the people don't know.
[01:05:41]  All they know is the accusation.
[01:05:42]  So if you just go out like, I say, I'm sorry, they go, oh, he's sorry for what I think that he did.
[01:05:48]  Yeah.
[01:05:49]  And that is the worst fucking thing that you can do.
[01:05:52]  You either spell out exactly what happened and then see how you feel about it, or you say, fuck everybody.
[01:05:57]  I think that we all have to look at what the fuck Pirates of the Caribbean fucker did.
[01:06:02]  Johnny Depp.
[01:06:03]  Johnny Depp fucking showed the way, mate.
[01:06:05]  Oh, yeah.
[01:06:05]  If you've got receipts, you've come back.

=== Engaging Comments to Win Super Bowl (10:13) ===

[01:06:07]  Come back stronger than ever.
[01:06:10]  His new movie, Whatever It Is going to I love that guy.
[01:06:14]  I'll buy two tickets.
[01:06:14]  I won't even go.
[01:06:15]  Absolutely.
[01:06:16]  I'll buy two.
[01:06:18]  100%.
[01:06:18]  No, I just want to support.
[01:06:19]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:06:20]  I agree.
[01:06:21]  Because too many men feel scared that the second you get accused of anything or someone comes for you in that way.
[01:06:29]  That, oh, shit, maybe I did do it.
[01:06:32]  You know what I mean?
[01:06:33]  Like, men just panic straight away.
[01:06:35]  And it's like, they're worried about losing all the thing.
[01:06:37]  They're worried about losing sponsors, losing whatever.
[01:06:39]  You face that shit head on.
[01:06:41]  If you can be funny as hell about it.
[01:06:43]  And the people who are.
[01:06:44]  That's how I saved the sponsors, mate.
[01:06:46]  All of my sponsors were like, fuck, okay.
[01:06:48]  He's bigger than ever.
[01:06:49]  Why the fuck would we leave him now?
[01:06:50]  This is mental.
[01:06:52]  I got 2 million views on that one video just laughing about, well, more than that, probably.
[01:06:56]  Yeah.
[01:06:56]  And why would they leave you for something to happen to you?
[01:06:58]  Yeah, but this is the thing is like men, this is perception.
[01:07:04]  It's very hard to look at a guy like me as a victim.
[01:07:06]  But I was.
[01:07:07]  Yeah.
[01:07:07]  In a way.
[01:07:08]  They've just done a documentary called The Most Hated Man on the Internet because he was leaking all of the girlfriend revenge porn shit.
[01:07:17]  And I'm like, you know, that isn't a million miles off of what happened to me.
[01:07:20]  Yeah.
[01:07:22]  But I would have came off better if it was that.
[01:07:24]  Yeah, if you had a dick out.
[01:07:26]  Yeah.
[01:07:27]  It's the issue with those guys, like I said, like a lot of them did fucked up shit.
[01:07:30]  Like Cosby, for example, couldn't have just gone head forward and been because he is guilty.
[01:07:34]  Because he actually did that shit.
[01:07:35]  It's when it's like something that's a crazy apology video.
[01:07:39]  You have a habit of pulling people, though.
[01:07:40]  I had seen that when Brendan sat down and you were like, so did you ask her for a blowjob then or what?
[01:07:45]  Like Brendan's shop.
[01:07:47]  Like you asked Annie to walk you to your truck.
[01:07:49]  I'll walk you in the truck.
[01:07:50]  Yeah.
[01:07:50]  Well, honestly.
[01:07:51]  That whole thing with Bobby and all of that now.
[01:07:53]  That's like crazy.
[01:07:54]  Crazy.
[01:07:55]  Podcasts in America.
[01:07:56]  You lot need to fucking befriend.
[01:07:58]  Soap opera, bro.
[01:07:59]  It's embarrassing how competitive these people are.
[01:08:02]  Can I tell you something?
[01:08:03]  Talking shit about each other.
[01:08:04]  Can I tell you something that happened?
[01:08:06]  This is the power vacuum.
[01:08:09]  What are they laughing at?
[01:08:11]  What happened?
[01:08:12]  What I missed?
[01:08:12]  What I missed.
[01:08:14]  No, but the power vacuum when Rogan left LA.
[01:08:18]  Notice this is all post-Rogan LA.
[01:08:20]  So weird.
[01:08:21]  When the fucking king was in LA, he kept everyone in.
[01:08:25]  Everybody was in line.
[01:08:25]  And not only was everybody in order, everybody took orders.
[01:08:28]  So if Rogan was helping everybody out, you guys had to help everybody out.
[01:08:31]  These are the rules.
[01:08:32]  He leaves disarray.
[01:08:34]  Brendan's in, yeah, people come after him straight away.
[01:08:37]  I mean, they were, they were, I mean, what happens on Reddit to him, and he's actually a really sweet guy.
[01:08:41]  I love him.
[01:08:42]  He's a fucking person.
[01:08:43]  He's one of the inspirations.
[01:08:44]  Yeah, people want to say what they want about his comedy, but the guy.
[01:08:47]  Three years in college.
[01:08:48]  The guy was a fucking top 10 heavyweight in MMA.
[01:08:51]  He's done well.
[01:08:51]  He's done a bit of successful comedian, whatever people think about it.
[01:08:55]  I felt like he got a raw deal.
[01:08:56]  You know, that girl, like, the way she was like, the way they were trying, oh, sorry, we didn't mean to fuck up.
[01:09:03]  I know what it was.
[01:09:04]  And you were engaging the Reddit.
[01:09:05]  You were making the Reddit cook it up.
[01:09:07]  And honestly, when we had him on, we had like a talk with him about like, I think that you have to, like we were talking about, I think you have to face this head on.
[01:09:12]  You have to be funny about this.
[01:09:14]  Like you, you have all these people who are listening to your content, consuming your content, and they're using it to make fun of you.
[01:09:19]  But at the same time, they're consuming it.
[01:09:21]  Engage with them.
[01:09:22]  Make fun of this.
[01:09:24]  So fucking merch with the sayings that are made.
[01:09:26]  Like, these people are invested in you.
[01:09:29]  Find a way where you can galvanize those people.
[01:09:32]  And I think if you show them that it's funny and show them that there's a sense of humor, I actually think that they would like turn it and support you.
[01:09:37]  100%.
[01:09:37]  And that's what you're on about with me was when people came up to laugh at me, they were like, fuck me, this guy doesn't get me.
[01:09:42]  He doesn't give fun.
[01:09:43]  And he's good.
[01:09:44]  It's impossible to feel like you're winning when I'm...
[01:09:46]  But to be honest, inside, I was fucking devastated.
[01:09:49]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:09:49]  But I thought I had three cups of whiskey and probably smoked a little weed.
[01:09:54]  And I was like, okay, let's do it.
[01:09:56]  And I'd never heard the jokes before.
[01:09:57]  I was like, go in.
[01:09:59]  Go fucking crazy.
[01:10:01]  And you have to.
[01:10:03]  Because otherwise you're letting them win.
[01:10:05]  And that's what they want.
[01:10:05]  They want to see a success.
[01:10:07]  People love come up, but they love dragging you fucking down when they think that you're too big for your boots.
[01:10:12]  Even though that might not even be the case.
[01:10:14]  They're just having their sometimes people are just having the shit life and they want to bring you down a couple of.
[01:10:18]  I also think it's like there's certain platforms that like lend themselves to like criticism and negativity because that's where the attention is.
[01:10:24]  How much do you guys read tweets and engage on that shit?
[01:10:28]  I try to engage with people, man.
[01:10:30]  I try to like look and I try to because I've turned all my comments off.
[01:10:34]  Really?
[01:10:36]  I just wanted to sort of show that I don't good or bad.
[01:10:40]  I'm not interested.
[01:10:41]  Yeah, it was like, I don't give a fuck.
[01:10:44]  Was it affecting you or you just were like, I think it was at one point, but then when I switched off, I was like, some salts.
[01:10:50]  Interesting.
[01:10:51]  Watch or don't watch.
[01:10:52]  And the fact you're going to keep creating the content you want to create regardless.
[01:10:56]  Absolutely.
[01:10:56]  So it really doesn't matter what people are saying.
[01:10:59]  No.
[01:10:59]  So you're just going to remove yourself from.
[01:11:02]  Yeah.
[01:11:03]  If it was up to me, I'd probably take off YouTube comments and everything.
[01:11:06]  Not because I have a problem with it.
[01:11:10]  Like as in what they're saying.
[01:11:12]  I don't care in that way.
[01:11:14]  I can, especially with podcasting, almost because there's more time to think, I can get in my head.
[01:11:19]  So the more comments I read, the more in my head I can get.
[01:11:21]  So now I'm like, look, I just want to be the best version of me I can be.
[01:11:24]  I want y'all to have the space to make whatever comments you want, engage with each other, do all that.
[01:11:28]  I'm going to try not to read it as much because I just want to be the best me at the end of the day.
[01:11:32]  That's the worst as well, man.
[01:11:33]  Because, how are you going to get through a two-hour chart and not say dumb shit at some point?
[01:11:37]  Everyone does.
[01:11:39]  One hour 37, he hiccuped.
[01:11:41]  Really, bro?
[01:11:42]  That's what we're doing.
[01:11:43]  Can I have some more wisdom?
[01:11:44]  Of course, you can.
[01:11:45]  All right, guys.
[01:11:45]  True Jory just went to the bathroom, so we're going to talk about something he has no fucking clue about.
[01:11:49]  That's good old-fashioned American cowhide football.
[01:11:52]  Yeah.
[01:11:53]  Yeah.
[01:11:54]  He used to be named at Pigskin.
[01:11:56]  Who do you fucking think stopped that?
[01:11:58]  Robert Kraft?
[01:12:02]  Do you think he might have had something to do with this?
[01:12:04]  I don't know.
[01:12:05]  Anyway, anyway, listen, that's Haram.
[01:12:07]  That's Haram.
[01:12:08]  Listen, the point I'm trying to make here is I've been speaking to Bet Online and I'm like, guys, you have too much money.
[01:12:18]  I have too much wisdom.
[01:12:19]  Let me help reduce some of the money that you have stored and give it back to the good gambling people out there with my gambling advice, with Akash's gambling advice, with Mark's gambling advice, with Alex Media's gambling advice.
[01:12:31]  Yeah, expertise.
[01:12:32]  You're an NFL expert.
[01:12:33]  Literally.
[01:12:34]  You have expertise.
[01:12:35]  Literally.
[01:12:36]  A lot of people don't know this.
[01:12:37]  I named most NFL teams.
[01:12:40]  Yep, that's true.
[01:12:41]  Yep.
[01:12:41]  What was the rationale behind Cleveland?
[01:12:43]  Because it's shit city.
[01:12:45]  So I figured we'd name it after what you feel like when you're in Cleveland.
[01:12:49]  Oh, that's a good idea.
[01:12:50]  I don't think there's many people who have traveled to Cleveland and they're like, yeah, I just feel like there's no shit on my body.
[01:12:56]  Oh, yeah.
[01:12:57]  Most of the time when you're there, you're like, am I in a colon?
[01:13:01]  Am I being squeezed through a colon right now?
[01:13:03]  And then you're like, oh, no, I'm not.
[01:13:05]  I'm just in Cleveland.
[01:13:06]  Oh, yeah.
[01:13:07]  Do you know what I'm saying?
[01:13:07]  So, who are you putting your money on?
[01:13:09]  The Cleveland Browns.
[01:13:12]  No, no.
[01:13:13]  I think that we have to talk to the good people and we have to give them advice on who's going to win the Super Bowl.
[01:13:17]  I personally, I personally think, and nobody else here thinks this, but I believe the Kansas City Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl.
[01:13:26]  That's what?
[01:13:29]  Listen, wide receiver by committee is a thing that I believe in.
[01:13:34]  Listen, listen, you don't need Tyreek.
[01:13:36]  Can I say one thing?
[01:13:37]  You know, yes, please.
[01:13:39]  That's the dumbest opinion I've ever heard in my life.
[01:13:41]  That's so stupid.
[01:13:43]  I think I'm going to put it on Kansas City.
[01:13:44]  I do think they're going to win it.
[01:13:45]  I think they're going to come back.
[01:13:46]  They traded away Tyreek, but I think they're going to be fine.
[01:13:48]  And why?
[01:13:49]  Who's replacing Tyreek?
[01:13:50]  It don't matter.
[01:13:50]  You can do wide receiver by committee.
[01:13:52]  What a fucking noob opinion.
[01:13:54]  Oh, Patrick Mahomes.
[01:13:57]  You're an idiot.
[01:13:58]  All you need is a guy that's fast that Patrick Mahomes can throw the ball to.
[01:14:01]  You just get somebody fast for Mahomes.
[01:14:02]  You're good.
[01:14:03]  You're just a hack.
[01:14:04]  Dude, you're a hack.
[01:14:05]  Maybe I'm a hack, but it's how I feel.
[01:14:06]  I don't think you need a pop-up.
[01:14:08]  He's going to win the championship.
[01:14:09]  I think LeBron is going to win the championship.
[01:14:11]  I'm just telling you, me personally, me personally, I'm not trying to say how you feel.
[01:14:14]  Me personally, I don't think that's what I'm saying.
[01:14:16]  I think I'm going to put it on Kansas City.
[01:14:18]  If you get a fast guy, Patrick Mones has enough of an arm where he can throw it to him.
[01:14:26]  We're just big in football.
[01:14:27]  They always talk about it.
[01:14:28]  Son, being a quarterback is so important.
[01:14:31]  Listen, I disagree with this wholeheartedly.
[01:14:33]  Well, who do you think?
[01:14:33]  I think the Baltimore Ravens are going to win the Super Bowl.
[01:14:36]  So?
[01:14:37]  What team did you just think of?
[01:14:38]  Baltimore Orioles.
[01:14:39]  Oh, if you had actually said the Ravens, that would have been a great, that would have been a great name.
[01:14:42]  Wait a minute.
[01:14:43]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:14:43]  You actually, because motherfuckers are going to put their money down on this right now.
[01:14:47]  I think you've got to take the Ravens very seriously.
[01:14:49]  And not only are they going to put their money down on it, if they put their money down on it, up to $1,000, they'll get 50% of that.
[01:14:57]  Oh, shit.
[01:14:57]  Wait, did you just think of that?
[01:14:59]  I had a conversation with Bet Online about yo, put your motherfucking money where your mouth is.
[01:15:05]  And they're like, what do you mean?
[01:15:05]  I'm like, yo, I don't want to just gamble with my money.
[01:15:08]  I'm trying to gamble your money.
[01:15:10]  If you try and reduce that pool, Scrooge McDuck, I need you to give me some of that money so I can gamble it up.
[01:15:16]  Yep.
[01:15:17]  Bet online, AG.A-G.
[01:15:19]  Yeah.
[01:15:20]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:15:21]  Code is flagrant.
[01:15:22]  Al, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl this year?
[01:15:26]  Well, I'm going to bet on who's not going to win.
[01:15:30]  Who a dick is such a stupid bet as that?
[01:15:33]  Can you bet on who's knocking on him?
[01:15:36]  What fucking kids?
[01:15:37]  That's a dumb bet.
[01:15:38]  What a dumbass kid.
[01:15:40]  I'm betting that the Tampa Bay Bucks are not going to win a Super Bowl.
[01:15:43]  Who wouldn't even take that bet?
[01:15:45]  Why would you bet against Tom Brady?
[01:15:46]  Yeah, there's much worse teams to bet that way with.
[01:15:49]  He's old.
[01:15:50]  He's washed.
[01:15:52]  I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.
[01:15:54]  Where is my mouth?
[01:15:55]  Tom Brady's crotch.
[01:15:57]  Now, who do you think is going to win?
[01:15:58]  Deshaun Watson, son of a bitch?
[01:16:00]  I think Deshaun Watson is going to be very relaxed.
[01:16:02]  He's ended six games at least, right?
[01:16:04]  He'll be very relaxed after all.
[01:16:05]  Has massage, bro.
[01:16:07]  He's going to be very relaxed.
[01:16:10]  Is that who you're going to root for?
[01:16:12]  No.
[01:16:12]  Are you sure?
[01:16:12]  Tampa Bay wins it all.
[01:16:14]  Whoa.
[01:16:15]  That's a Florida kid right there.
[01:16:16]  That's a Florida boy.
[01:16:17]  You got to support my team.
[01:16:18]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:16:18]  Either them or the Finns, but I'm going Tom Brady all bet.

=== Words That Would Get Canceled (12:32) ===

[01:16:21]  What was that?
[01:16:22]  That's the Miami Dolphins.
[01:16:23]  Oh.
[01:16:24]  Yeah, Finns up, baby.
[01:16:25]  Oh, I thought you guys thought the same thing.
[01:16:27]  That's why you're doing it.
[01:16:31]  I thought he was calling attention to it.
[01:16:32]  Do I like bottlenose a little bit?
[01:16:36]  Okay.
[01:16:37]  I'm endangered, okay?
[01:16:38]  But anyway, bet online.ag.
[01:16:40]  Make sure you use that promo code flagrant.
[01:16:42]  They're going to match your first deposit up to 50%.
[01:16:45]  I think that's pretty goddamn good.
[01:16:46]  It's pretty fire.
[01:16:47]  Okay, now can we get back to this podcast with True Jordy?
[01:16:49]  Because there's no way he's going to know anything about football.
[01:16:50]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:16:51]  It's coming in right now.
[01:16:52]  Oh, watch out.
[01:16:53]  Oh, shit.
[01:16:54]  Our podcast scene is non-existent compared to America.
[01:16:57]  Yeah.
[01:16:57]  Well, think about it.
[01:16:58]  Like in LA, like none of those people want to be podcasters.
[01:17:01]  Like nobody moves to LA to be a podcast.
[01:17:03]  Yeah.
[01:17:04]  Right?
[01:17:05]  Except Rogan.
[01:17:05]  Rogan did.
[01:17:06]  Yeah.
[01:17:07]  Well, no, Rogan didn't go there to be a podcast.
[01:17:08]  He didn't go there.
[01:17:09]  But like, he was the one that was like, oh, I want to do this.
[01:17:11]  I don't care if there's views.
[01:17:12]  He did it before it was anything.
[01:17:14]  Right.
[01:17:14]  But everybody else is going, okay, I'm going to do this thing.
[01:17:17]  Like, I didn't think that I was going to do a podcast.
[01:17:19]  Yeah.
[01:17:19]  I will say this.
[01:17:20]  I wanted to do a podcast so early.
[01:17:24]  Way before I did it even with Charlamagne.
[01:17:26]  When I was on MTV, I was trying to get Guy Code to do a podcast.
[01:17:28]  Oh, really?
[01:17:29]  I was like, this is the fucking thing.
[01:17:30]  Before that, I used to do a podcast every weekend at brunch with my buddy Bobby that we have recorded somewhere.
[01:17:39]  Bobby is somewhere.
[01:17:42]  I don't know where it is.
[01:17:42]  You and I sat down and did a podcast in the back of the lantern on like an iPhone 3 or 4 or whatever, like the early ass iPhone.
[01:17:51]  We have one somewhere.
[01:17:52]  And then we couldn't get it to work at all.
[01:17:53]  But we sat there before or after show for like 45 minutes and just turned on cameras.
[01:17:57]  It just felt like, I don't know, for me, not like it felt like the thing was going to be successful.
[01:18:03]  It was the most fun.
[01:18:05]  Like I loved being around my boys and then just waxing poetic on bullshit, making arguments for the craziest things.
[01:18:12]  It was like a deconstructed version of stand-up.
[01:18:15]  Stand-up is like those conversations whittled down.
[01:18:19]  But I love the process of even getting there.
[01:18:22]  I think what we're finding is some podcasters are actually funnier as podcasters than they are at stand-up.
[01:18:27]  Like Tim Dylan, I could listen to his podcast any fucking time.
[01:18:31]  He's unbelievably funny.
[01:18:33]  Mega talent.
[01:18:33]  Oh, yeah.
[01:18:34]  You guys heard a podcast.
[01:18:35]  You guys heard that backup for Tim's funny.
[01:18:37]  We're back in, by the way.
[01:18:38]  Yeah, we're back in.
[01:18:39]  Yeah, I was messaging Tim, like, oh, when you're coming over, we'll get you on the podcast.
[01:18:42]  And he was like, he thought I was some Irish dude.
[01:18:44]  He was shagging or something.
[01:18:45]  I was like, well, what did he say?
[01:18:48]  No, he replied and he was like, he's like, I thought I was flying you out, silly.
[01:18:54]  And I was like, something like that.
[01:18:55]  And I was like, flying me out?
[01:18:56]  And he's like, oh, I thought you were some Irish Twing.
[01:18:58]  I've been fucking.
[01:19:01]  I was like, nope.
[01:19:02]  But, yo, but the stand-up part, that is like the effort of like whittling it down and refining it.
[01:19:10]  That is the fucking hard, painful part.
[01:19:13]  And you have to love doing stand-up or really want a joke of yours to be out in the ether in order to go through that.
[01:19:21]  And we even saw it earlier with stand-ups.
[01:19:23]  Like there were certain stand-ups that like, they're just so funny, like talking.
[01:19:26]  Like certain guys who just like around the club and they are the funniest guys.
[01:19:28]  They're not the funniest on stage, but around they are 10 times funnier than that comic that you like admire so much you think is hilarious because they're different things.
[01:19:37]  Yeah, being hilarious.
[01:19:38]  Now, there's some people who can do both.
[01:19:39]  They can be hilarious at podcasts and they can be hilarious at stand-up.
[01:19:42]  Like, I think I'm way better at stand-up than I am podcasting.
[01:19:45]  I love podcasting.
[01:19:46]  I think this is the most fun.
[01:19:48]  I also just like talking to people.
[01:19:50]  I'm like, curious.
[01:19:51]  I'm, I want to know the things that you know kind of selfishly, too, because I'm like, okay, and then maybe I could use some of that shit.
[01:19:57]  Yeah, yeah, you're gonna tell me some Georgia.
[01:20:00]  Hell yeah, hanging out with like, I mean, I've had like days with Russell Brown and Louis Thoreau, and afterwards, you can't not come away from that and be fucking oh, you know what I mean?
[01:20:09]  Louis Thoreau, for example, he is one of the funniest guys you'll ever meet.
[01:20:13]  Really?
[01:20:14]  Like, shockingly funny.
[01:20:15]  Okay, so Louis is a very famous journalist.
[01:20:17]  He's also the guy, my money don't jiggle, jiggle.
[01:20:20]  Yeah, he's the biggest documentary maker probably in the world.
[01:20:24]  Yeah, I'd say.
[01:20:25]  Yeah, well, he's a TikToker to us.
[01:20:28]  You made the Westboro Baptist documentary.
[01:20:30]  Did you ever see it?
[01:20:31]  Oh, yeah.
[01:20:31]  Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
[01:20:33]  That's the funniest documentary I've ever seen.
[01:20:35]  Yeah, he goes into like paedophile prisons.
[01:20:39]  He goes into like these racist churchgoers in America.
[01:20:44]  He's exposed like so many people.
[01:20:46]  It's unbelievable.
[01:20:47]  Yeah.
[01:20:48]  Just by being like this sort of unassuming English guy that no one would ever think would be threatening in any way.
[01:20:55]  He never says anything judgmental.
[01:20:56]  And then afterwards in the edit, he's like, I'm a fucking show you guys.
[01:21:00]  You know what I mean?
[01:21:01]  Yeah, it's a weapon, that accent you guys got.
[01:21:04]  Yeah.
[01:21:04]  Especially the Londoners, because you can really come into any environment and speak like that, and it's immediately disarming.
[01:21:11]  It's like carrying around flowers.
[01:21:12]  Two Americans, it is.
[01:21:13]  What was the thing?
[01:21:14]  Without hearing it.
[01:21:15]  Do you remember this?
[01:21:15]  Oh, yeah, this was great.
[01:21:17]  Oh, fuck.
[01:21:17]  I love your language.
[01:21:20]  If somebody says something and it's absurd in New York, we go, man, fuck out of here.
[01:21:26]  Right?
[01:21:26]  Like, if somebody's like, yo, I think John Starks is better than LeBron, right?
[01:21:31]  Man, fuck out of here.
[01:21:33]  But there's a buddy of ours, Jason, who went, he goes, Do you really believe that?
[01:21:41]  And that was more insulting than the fuck out of it.
[01:21:45]  It's like, it's like, wait, are you dumb enough to actually believe this?
[01:21:48]  My favorite one is, are you all right?
[01:21:50]  Are you all right?
[01:21:53]  I'm concerned for you because what you said was so stupid to me.
[01:21:57]  And it's like, you guys, you have politeness built into the culture.
[01:22:01]  So you found ways to be like rude and patronizing within politeness.
[01:22:05]  That's why Gervais is the one.
[01:22:07]  There he is.
[01:22:07]  Yeah, he is a genius.
[01:22:09]  That is what he does.
[01:22:09]  That was my most intimidating interview.
[01:22:12]  Really?
[01:22:12]  People are like, who's like, I've interviewed Tyson Fury, all these big fucking six foot nine fighters, and it was Gervais.
[01:22:19]  Why?
[01:22:19]  Because he can make anyone look so stupid.
[01:22:22]  Like, if you piss him off just a little bit, I've seen him turn in interviews before.
[01:22:26]  He gets a little bit annoyed.
[01:22:28]  You know what I mean?
[01:22:29]  He starts sort of making like little sly jokes and stuff like that.
[01:22:31]  And the interviewer is oblivious to it until it's too late.
[01:22:34]  Interesting.
[01:22:35]  But luckily, he liked me.
[01:22:36]  Sharp guy?
[01:22:37]  Oh, the cleverest guy I think I've ever interviewed in my life.
[01:22:41]  Really?
[01:22:41]  Yeah.
[01:22:42]  Really?
[01:22:43]  How about the cleverest guys you've been interviewed by?
[01:22:45]  Who gets that?
[01:22:45]  You know what I mean?
[01:22:46]  Who are those guys in any podcast?
[01:22:48]  I've had a few good ones over the years.
[01:22:51]  Wait, wait, so Gervaise, like, what do you think Gervaise's genius zone is?
[01:22:58]  Well, if you look, he got in front of all of those guys at the Golden Gloves and he humiliated them.
[01:23:05]  Unbelievable.
[01:23:05]  And they're all the most powerful, richest, prettiest, beautiful people.
[01:23:09]  And he didn't do no Chris Rock jokes.
[01:23:12]  That's just like a little jar.
[01:23:14]  He was right-hooking and going for the kill.
[01:23:16]  Like, I think my favorite one is he's like, um, is something about that was two straight men playing gay guys.
[01:23:23]  So it's the exact opposite of some famous Scientologists that we have.
[01:23:27]  And he's just like laying them out left, right, and center.
[01:23:30]  Didn't he say, he was like, you're all on Epstein's plane or something like that?
[01:23:33]  Yeah.
[01:23:33]  Oh, fuck out.
[01:23:34]  He goes, if something like if the Taliban set up a streaming service, you'd call your agents.
[01:23:39]  Fucking annihilated them, you know?
[01:23:42]  Like, that's the way he is.
[01:23:43]  He doesn't give a fuck.
[01:23:44]  If you remember that joke, he got first, he gave, I think, Jennifer Anderson credit for a show on Apple Plus, got everybody to clap for her, and then bang.
[01:23:54]  Yeah.
[01:23:54]  I think what I love about, and I'm not saying this is like a thing that's idiosyncratic to America, but I feel like there's something built into culture where we get to humiliate the richest, most famous people.
[01:24:05]  And there's a lot of shows that do this.
[01:24:08]  And I don't even realize if they realize why that's successful, like Jimmy Fallon's show.
[01:24:13]  I don't care to watch late night.
[01:24:15]  I think it sucks.
[01:24:16]  But what I think people enjoy is seeing a pie get thrown in the famous person's face.
[01:24:21]  You know, seeing like water get splattered in the famous person's face.
[01:24:24]  You don't get to see famous people fall.
[01:24:26]  And I think that's what like the correspondence dinner, we have this thing where you get to make fun of the president to his face.
[01:24:31]  And then Trump didn't do it.
[01:24:33]  And I was like, you fucking pussy, man.
[01:24:35]  Like this is part of America.
[01:24:36]  The most famous people, you get all the nice shit.
[01:24:38]  You don't have to pay taxes.
[01:24:39]  You get billions of dollars.
[01:24:41]  Have boats fuck everybody, but you're going to stand there in front of everybody and we're going to make fun of you.
[01:24:45]  And then the rest of us have a day.
[01:24:47]  We have a day where we get to see you look familiar.
[01:24:49]  And it's beautiful.
[01:24:51]  And if you can't give us one day, it's hard for me to rise up.
[01:24:53]  You can't do that with Biden, though.
[01:24:55]  Because he wasn't.
[01:24:56]  This guy's so.
[01:24:57]  It's great.
[01:24:57]  You make fun of me.
[01:24:58]  I don't remember 10 minutes.
[01:25:01]  He would go.
[01:25:01]  I bet he would go.
[01:25:02]  I wonder how ruthless.
[01:25:04]  They roll him in there.
[01:25:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:25:08]  Poor guy.
[01:25:08]  He's dead, isn't he?
[01:25:09]  He's literally dead.
[01:25:10]  But doesn't it show you that it doesn't matter who's there?
[01:25:14]  Kind of liberating, right?
[01:25:16]  Doesn't give a fuck?
[01:25:17]  Yeah.
[01:25:17]  He'll be having his arse wiped from in about two years.
[01:25:20]  And he's the leader of the free world.
[01:25:22]  The leader of the free world?
[01:25:23]  Right now.
[01:25:23]  Yeah.
[01:25:24]  And in two years, he's going to be laying there like, but look at all these people.
[01:25:27]  They like fight so hard for like a president or something like that.
[01:25:30]  It doesn't matter.
[01:25:31]  Oh, no.
[01:25:32]  I think we're catching on to that in this country, though.
[01:25:35]  People are just so jaded.
[01:25:38]  Yeah.
[01:25:38]  I don't know if you guys, do people still do the left versus right thing?
[01:25:42]  Non-stop.
[01:25:42]  People don't give a fuck about that in the UK anymore.
[01:25:44]  I think people are just like, they're all like a bunch of people.
[01:25:47]  What do you care about the word spaz?
[01:25:51]  What was that about again?
[01:25:52]  You didn't hear this?
[01:25:52]  Because of Beyonce or something.
[01:25:54]  Beyonce changed the lyric because it was offensive to spazzes or whatever.
[01:25:59]  Yeah, it's a bit of a weird one.
[01:26:01]  Is that a bad word?
[01:26:02]  We don't understand that back.
[01:26:04]  So in the UK, I believe it's the UK anyway, but there was a society, the spastic society, which was there.
[01:26:11]  Creative.
[01:26:12]  Is that a rap group?
[01:26:13]  No, it was based on it.
[01:26:17]  I think it was based on a term for the situation.
[01:26:21]  But that word was then taken, like many words.
[01:26:25]  Yeah.
[01:26:25]  It was taken and used as a negative.
[01:26:27]  Yeah.
[01:26:28]  And spas and all these other words were then.
[01:26:30]  Yeah.
[01:26:30]  So I think Beyonce.
[01:26:32]  Wait, were there meetings?
[01:26:33]  Somebody wrote that lyric for her and she didn't even fucking think twice, probably.
[01:26:37]  Because in America, we don't care.
[01:26:38]  But more importantly, was there a time where you could go to a meeting and just watch a bunch of spazzes in like a hotel conference room?
[01:26:44]  Wow.
[01:26:46]  But like, I'm just saying, if it was a society, that means that there was like a vast.
[01:26:49]  No, I think it's a good idea.
[01:26:52]  I'm using that term as a person who has no idea.
[01:26:55]  Okay.
[01:26:55]  Right.
[01:26:56]  Just to be absolutely.
[01:26:57]  I don't want to get you in trouble.
[01:26:58]  I want to.
[01:26:59]  I don't.
[01:26:59]  I'm not getting anyone in trouble here.
[01:27:01]  They need to just do like us, just reclaim the work.
[01:27:03]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:27:04]  Yo, so only they can say, yeah, yeah, No, but that'd be, you don't think that'd be cool, them all like, hey, what's up, my spazza?
[01:27:16]  You know, you don't think that'd be like a fun thing?
[01:27:20]  You would go to that meeting.
[01:27:21]  You'd pay top dollars.
[01:27:22]  Man, I'd be the host.
[01:27:24]  There we go.
[01:27:25]  They'd be paying me.
[01:27:26]  100%.
[01:27:26]  I'm not giving them a free ride just because they're, you know, whatever.
[01:27:30]  Because they're what?
[01:27:31]  What of a disability?
[01:27:32]  They're like, I want paid.
[01:27:34]  Is it a disability?
[01:27:36]  So it was a name, to my knowledge, given to the organization that would be.
[01:27:43]  It's like kids with Down syndrome.
[01:27:44]  It's basically literally what retard was in America.
[01:27:46]  Yeah.
[01:27:48]  Very similar to the word retardant.
[01:27:49]  It's also for retarded children in like the 80s, and they have like fundraisers and stuff.
[01:27:52]  And then the word got appropriate to mean like a dumb person, blah, blah, blah.
[01:27:56]  And so they're trying to change the word.
[01:27:57]  So we had a council for retarded children.
[01:27:59]  Yes.
[01:28:00]  Yeah.
[01:28:00]  Exactly.
[01:28:01]  There's like old Knights of Columbus pictures of like Catholic charities and stuff.
[01:28:05]  And it's like, oh, donate money to retarded kids.
[01:28:07]  And it was like giant signs on like the highway.
[01:28:10]  And it's like, yeah, that's just what the word was.
[01:28:12]  And then it changed.
[01:28:13]  Wow.
[01:28:13]  Yeah.
[01:28:14]  Yeah.
[01:28:14]  I still, I don't feel like retarded is that bad a word yet.
[01:28:17]  Like there's certain words where I'm like, I get like a feeling about it.
[01:28:20]  Well, yeah.
[01:28:21]  I'm not looking at you for a reason, Al, but like there are certain words where I'm like, that's a little rough, that one.
[01:28:27]  But like retarded doesn't.
[01:28:30]  Yeah, I don't, I don't feel that way about it either.
[01:28:32]  I feel very like, whatever.
[01:28:33]  I think most people do when they're on their own or when they're with their boys.
[01:28:37]  Most people, you hear a lot of words go flying around.
[01:28:41]  Yeah, what's your favorite one?
[01:28:42]  What's my favorite word that would get me canceled?
[01:28:45]  I can surmise it guess by looking at you.
[01:28:48]  Let's guess.
[01:28:49]  What do you call?
[01:28:50]  Do you think I look like I would use a certain word more than the others?

=== Freshly Shaved Color Purple (04:32) ===

[01:28:53]  Go on.
[01:28:55]  What do you say?
[01:28:56]  Listen, you're just missing one SWATSCOTING.
[01:29:02]  Just shave it off.
[01:29:03]  I remember when I was younger, I started talking to an Indian girl or something like that.
[01:29:08]  And she was like, I can't believe you're talking to me.
[01:29:10]  And I was like, why?
[01:29:11]  And she was like, well, because you look like the people that used to bully me in school.
[01:29:15]  I was like, oh.
[01:29:16]  Okay, so.
[01:29:17]  Okay, then.
[01:29:18]  Here's a Scottish story, right?
[01:29:20]  Oh, God.
[01:29:21]  This is going to be fun.
[01:29:22]  I got it.
[01:29:22]  This has nothing to do with sex and my mother.
[01:29:25]  Okay?
[01:29:26]  This is why you don't judge a book by its color.
[01:29:28]  A cover.
[01:29:28]  Color purple.
[01:29:29]  Whoa, Color purple.
[01:29:32]  Okay.
[01:29:32]  So I'm in Scotland.
[01:29:34]  It's late night.
[01:29:35]  And all of a sudden, these two guys are walking down the street, right?
[01:29:37]  They look like you.
[01:29:38]  Seeing these two guys, and he's starting, he's all drunk.
[01:29:41]  And he goes, he goes, he goes, these goddamn, these goddamn Pakistanis.
[01:29:50]  They come here and they open up their swama shops.
[01:29:55]  And I'm like, it's about to be prime for racism.
[01:29:59]  And then he goes, and they close them at the most inconvenient times.
[01:30:06]  I love it.
[01:30:07]  Scott's hating convenience.
[01:30:08]  They really hate.
[01:30:09]  Like, all he wanted in that moment was a fucking schwarma.
[01:30:13]  That's all he wanted.
[01:30:14]  And it was like, thank God they came here.
[01:30:16]  But like, keep them open for me.
[01:30:18]  So, yeah, so you can't judge a book by its cover.
[01:30:20]  All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because y'all need some fucking nutrients in your life, okay?
[01:30:24]  Sitting at a home eating cliff bars all day.
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[01:33:15]  Also, guys, speaking of greed, something I don't make any money off of whatsoever is happening, but it's really fucking cool.
[01:33:23]  An album is coming out of Bring Back a Pooh.

=== Onlyfans Chasing Clouds (11:40) ===

[01:33:26]  A while ago, somebody reached out to me at 800 Pound Gorilla, and I responded to them specifically because they did 441 with Andrew.
[01:33:32]  So, Bring Back a Pooh is coming out August 16th.
[01:33:35]  It's going to be on Spotify.
[01:33:37]  It's going to be on Sirius.
[01:33:37]  It's going to be on iTunes.
[01:33:39]  Help me fucking grow.
[01:33:40]  Send it to all your homies.
[01:33:42]  Send it to all your South Asian, Asian, whatever you fucking call your brown friends who are brown like me and say, yo, this is the funniest motherfucker that looks like us that's doing it right now.
[01:33:51]  We'll be the funniest ever.
[01:33:53]  Let's start a movement.
[01:33:54]  Spread the fucking word.
[01:33:55]  Also, go to akasing.com for dates and tickets.
[01:33:58]  I'm going to be in Tempe, Arizona.
[01:33:59]  I'm going to be in Orlando.
[01:34:00]  I'm going to be in West Nyack.
[01:34:01]  But Bring Back A Pooh is an album.
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[01:34:04]  Support it.
[01:34:06]  I'm greedy, but I don't have nearly as much as Andrew.
[01:34:09]  So let's help me get to that point where I can snort on a promo.
[01:34:12]  Because right now I come to you humbly with my head in my hand.
[01:34:16]  Akasing.com, Bring Back a Poo, April 6th, August 16th.
[01:34:19]  There's this group of people online who I fucking hate.
[01:34:23]  And they're the ones who will clip your podcasts up and take it out of context where all of the buildup to the joke, all of the punchline, everything, everything that explains it is not involved.
[01:34:33]  And they're like, see, see?
[01:34:35]  And then they know what they've done to you.
[01:34:38]  Then they're using fake outrage to take you down to then further their own shit.
[01:34:43]  Those cunts are the most talentless twats that are online.
[01:34:46]  They can't just create content.
[01:34:48]  So they're looking for that all the time.
[01:34:50]  And they're tapping into like existing feeling.
[01:34:52]  So they're just going, what are these people already mad at?
[01:34:55]  I'll give them something more for that.
[01:34:57]  Literally, I've had people call me all sorts of auntie this, auntie that.
[01:35:03]  I'm like, you have no idea who the people I grew up with, who I am, anything like that.
[01:35:07]  You couldn't be further from the truth.
[01:35:10]  Yeah, that's the thing that annoys me most.
[01:35:12]  Like the cloud chasing pods or the cloud chasing creators, it just frustrates me.
[01:35:19]  If they acknowledge it and they're like, listen, like we can't make content that people like without causing beef, then I'd actually be okay with it.
[01:35:26]  But acting as if you're doing it through virtue, I fucking hate it.
[01:35:30]  I have to expose this to the world about this person.
[01:35:33]  No, you don't.
[01:35:34]  You have to fucking sell blue chew like the rest of us.
[01:35:37]  And the way that you do it is by starting beefs.
[01:35:40]  We do it by being funny.
[01:35:41]  We do it by having interesting conversations.
[01:35:43]  And if you could do that, nobody that can be funny or interesting tries to clouch.
[01:35:49]  You've nailed it.
[01:35:50]  And those podcasts out there.
[01:35:51]  No girls that's interesting shows her tits.
[01:35:53]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:35:54]  Right?
[01:35:54]  There's no like interesting girl that's like, here's my pussy.
[01:35:57]  That is the last resort.
[01:35:58]  That's that is boxing for women.
[01:36:00]  OnlyFans are when the other things didn't work out.
[01:36:04]  No, but for real, it's like you go there because there's nothing else you can do to make a living that's that much money.
[01:36:09]  You don't have to get attention.
[01:36:10]  I love this.
[01:36:11]  You don't think there's one porn star that's like thoughtful and interesting?
[01:36:14]  One OnlyFans girl.
[01:36:16]  They might be going to be honest.
[01:36:17]  They can't make enough.
[01:36:18]  Sorry, but they can't make as much money doing that.
[01:36:20]  And they don't want to put the time in to build that career when this is right there.
[01:36:23]  Now, I'm also saying this as a guy who doesn't have that option.
[01:36:26]  If we were all able to just throw a pussy up on OnlyFans and make millions of dollars, we might not be in this library.
[01:36:31]  What about the ones who delude themselves?
[01:36:33]  You know what I mean?
[01:36:35]  So they'll post a gym picture with their ass crack right there.
[01:36:39]  And then in the caption, it's like there's like multiple paragraphs of like, you can be comfortable in your own body.
[01:36:44]  And like, you know.
[01:36:45]  Yo, if you're explaining, you're losing.
[01:36:46]  Tom Brady.
[01:36:48]  If you're explaining, you're losing.
[01:36:49]  You know what the fuck you're posting.
[01:36:51]  And no girl that's making, like, there's no fucking CEO, female CEO with an OnlyFans, right?
[01:36:56]  There's no female CEO who's just like, I'm comfortable with my body.
[01:36:59]  Here's my fucking crutch.
[01:37:01]  Right?
[01:37:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:37:03]  That's the thing.
[01:37:04]  It's like, it is.
[01:37:05]  Can you imagine the CEO of Pepsi had an OnlyFans?
[01:37:07]  Yeah.
[01:37:07]  Beyonce is a lot more than that.
[01:37:09]  Pepsi head and OnlyFans wouldn't that be crazy?
[01:37:11]  I mean, we would buy it in a fucking heartbeat.
[01:37:13]  I'm just a CEO of a porn company that has an OnlyFans.
[01:37:16]  Which one?
[01:37:17]  I don't know.
[01:37:18]  There's probably one.
[01:37:19]  I don't know.
[01:37:19]  I'm not familiar with that.
[01:37:20]  I think the CEO of OnlyFans doesn't have an OnlyFans.
[01:37:22]  Facts.
[01:37:23]  Yeah, they're running OnlyFans.
[01:37:24]  But I'm like, this guy doesn't want to be a lot more fun.
[01:37:25]  How much are OnlyFans, like men making?
[01:37:29]  Because obviously the women making a fucking fortune.
[01:37:31]  I mean, Tyga's making money, but I think he's fucking girls.
[01:37:33]  But like, you need women to make money if you're being naked.
[01:37:37]  Like, male models don't make a lot of money.
[01:37:38]  Male strippers don't make a lot of money.
[01:37:40]  This is just like it always says at the start, if you want to be in the videos, it's really a volunteer position.
[01:37:49]  I don't want to be in the video.
[01:37:50]  Shout out to you for watching the start.
[01:37:52]  Yeah.
[01:37:54]  You like the whole build, bro.
[01:37:55]  It's the build up.
[01:37:56]  You know what I mean?
[01:37:58]  I like my porn.
[01:37:59]  Like, I like my fights.
[01:38:00]  I need build up for it.
[01:38:01]  You know what I mean?
[01:38:02]  We can't just get to the main event.
[01:38:04]  Yeah.
[01:38:04]  Give me something to invest in.
[01:38:06]  Yeah.
[01:38:06]  So 100%.
[01:38:07]  Yeah, I have a question.
[01:38:09]  What's the origin of your back and forth with Andrew Tate?
[01:38:12]  Andrew Tate.
[01:38:13]  Oh, Andrew was on.
[01:38:15]  I did a bit of a comedy show where we just do little bits of news, bit of joke here and there.
[01:38:21]  And I'd seen some videos of him back in 2018 because he basically has been chasing fame for years.
[01:38:29]  People don't realize this guy is the most desperate fame-hungry person.
[01:38:33]  He was in Big Brother.
[01:38:35]  I knew he was in Big Brother.
[01:38:36]  He's wanted to be famous for years because the guys, I don't know.
[01:38:40]  There's some issues there.
[01:38:41]  I don't know what's going on.
[01:38:42]  But I just literally was like, the way this guy talks about women is like, as we all know, a fucking joke.
[01:38:49]  It's so funny, though.
[01:38:50]  Oh, oh.
[01:38:51]  I thought he got it.
[01:38:52]  What's that?
[01:38:53]  I thought he got it.
[01:38:54]  I thought he got it.
[01:38:54]  Oh, you thought he was bang on, did you?
[01:38:56]  You thought, like, finally, someone gets it.
[01:38:58]  Finally.
[01:38:59]  Finally, someone is speaking out for all the men.
[01:39:03]  So, yeah, there was footage of him fucking hitting women and all sorts of wild shit.
[01:39:08]  And me and my boy were like, yeah, we'll throw him in.
[01:39:11]  You know, but like, bear in mind, like, he was like seventh on the list of stories to talk about back in 2018.
[01:39:17]  So he was in there and like him having the ego he has, he was all like crying about it, like hating me.
[01:39:23]  And I was like, okay, moving on.
[01:39:25]  Like, and I just forgot about it.
[01:39:27]  And like, from that moment on, he's like, someone challenged me.
[01:39:30]  Like, and I'm like, I don't give a fuck, mate.
[01:39:32]  Like, you know what I mean?
[01:39:33]  So, um, so he's still talking about it to this day.
[01:39:36]  And I'm like, I'm living in your head, Ren Freeman.
[01:39:38]  You're literally so bothered about me.
[01:39:40]  Like, everyone's talking about him.
[01:39:42]  He's talking about me.
[01:39:44]  Why do you think that you got under his skin?
[01:39:46]  Because we're very good at what we do.
[01:39:47]  Like, we psychoanalyze people with like minimal effort.
[01:39:52]  Like, you know, like, this is a guy who missed a few hugs of his mother.
[01:39:55]  I think we can all agree.
[01:39:57]  There's a man there.
[01:39:59]  My mother was like, judge a man by how he talks about his mother.
[01:40:02]  And women in general will fold suit as well, right?
[01:40:04]  And I'm not.
[01:40:06]  We've talked about it.
[01:40:09]  We're talking about my mom.
[01:40:10]  She's getting good dicks.
[01:40:12]  Yeah.
[01:40:12]  And so she should, man.
[01:40:14]  So she should.
[01:40:15]  Y'all don't care if your mom's getting good dicks.
[01:40:17]  But y'all can't.
[01:40:18]  This guy missed a few hugs.
[01:40:19]  You know what I mean?
[01:40:20]  Clearly.
[01:40:21]  And it's a sad state of affairs.
[01:40:24]  You know what I mean?
[01:40:25]  If Mrs. Tate had fucking...
[01:40:28]  I'm sorry, you gotta give us a second to laugh at this guy.
[01:40:30]  I thought he took crazy.
[01:40:31]  They're gonna make fun of me, bro.
[01:40:33]  They think that I'm anti-tate, bro.
[01:40:35]  Just because my mom is Scottish and doesn't hug as much.
[01:40:38]  She left you on a swing one time.
[01:40:40]  She left you on the swing.
[01:40:41]  She did leave me on a swing and I got a rash, but it is what it is, okay?
[01:40:44]  I forgive.
[01:40:46]  I feel sorry for him, if anything, to be honest with you.
[01:40:48]  Because this is the thing, there's like all that money clearly still miserable.
[01:40:52]  You know what I mean?
[01:40:53]  Like, there's so much anger there.
[01:40:54]  Like, where's that coming from?
[01:40:56]  You think it's real?
[01:40:58]  You think it's real?
[01:40:59]  I think it's a funny case.
[01:41:01]  No, no, no.
[01:41:01]  No.
[01:41:02]  This has been going on for years.
[01:41:04]  This has been a buildup of him trying to get people to be though.
[01:41:09]  But is it though?
[01:41:10]  Like, is that what you want to be known for?
[01:41:12]  Is that really like you're a piece of shit towards women?
[01:41:15]  Well done.
[01:41:15]  That's your legacy.
[01:41:16]  Yeah.
[01:41:16]  Well done, mate.
[01:41:17]  Yeah.
[01:41:17]  There's always going to be a place on the internet for guys explaining to incels that they can't get laid out.
[01:41:24]  Many percent, man.
[01:41:24]  Mini%.
[01:41:25]  Like this guy, the Netflix documentary that they're just done the most hated man on the internet.
[01:41:30]  It's literally Andrew Tate, but like 10 years ago.
[01:41:32]  This is not the first time we've seen this.
[01:41:34]  This guy, what is it?
[01:41:36]  Are you up.com or whatever the fuck?
[01:41:38]  This is Andrew Tate.
[01:41:39]  It's the same guy.
[01:41:40]  Now, that being said, you're not even original.
[01:41:43]  At least be original, you prick.
[01:41:45]  You know what I mean?
[01:41:47]  Now, if he was a wrestling character and he said the lines that he said objectively funny?
[01:41:56]  Oh, I can find humor in it.
[01:41:59]  Objectively funny.
[01:42:00]  The problem is, right?
[01:42:01]  And he has the problem is women don't put their body colour on their foreheads.
[01:42:05]  The problem is he means it.
[01:42:08]  Like he, if you look on this guy's track record, there's some dark shit there.
[01:42:13]  Like, we're all laughing.
[01:42:14]  Oh, it's a big.
[01:42:15]  This guy literally has some issues with women.
[01:42:17]  Like, this guy has raised his hands with women.
[01:42:20]  Like, there's, if you look on his Wikipedia, human trafficking and rape are all in the Wikipedia, bro.
[01:42:25]  So, like...
[01:42:26]  The R-word?
[01:42:29]  Like, if you, if you're that much of a fucking expert with women, why are you having to force the issue, bro?
[01:42:35]  Oh, that's what I would say.
[01:42:36]  Is that like a fact that he was...
[01:42:38]  Well, I mean, it's on his Wikipedia, so I'm assuming there's some truth to it.
[01:42:41]  It must be real.
[01:42:42]  Yeah, I mean, there's videos of him slapping women around online.
[01:42:44]  Really?
[01:42:45]  Yeah, but like, this is the thing is, TikTok is the weirdest place because anywhere else, you can't get famous while doing all that shit.
[01:42:53]  That's not true.
[01:42:54]  They're like pretty funny, right?
[01:42:55]  That's not true.
[01:42:56]  YouTube shorts is how Andrew found out.
[01:42:58]  Exactly.
[01:43:00]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:43:02]  Andrew Schultz is on the same side.
[01:43:04]  You really think that he just needs a hug?
[01:43:06]  That's what he's doing.
[01:43:07]  His mother needs to come back and is alive.
[01:43:09]  Like, let's be real here.
[01:43:10]  Where is she?
[01:43:11]  Someone needs to have a word.
[01:43:12]  Where do you think?
[01:43:14]  I think she's...
[01:43:14]  It sounds like he got under your skin a little bit.
[01:43:16]  Oh, he got into my skin.
[01:43:18]  I think I'm not the one who's been talking about him for four years, bro.
[01:43:21]  I'm literally, this is the first time I've ever talked about him.
[01:43:23]  Really?
[01:43:24]  Trust me.
[01:43:24]  I couldn't give a shit about Andrew Tate.
[01:43:26]  Really?
[01:43:27]  Would you box him or a celebrity boxing?
[01:43:30]  Well, he has a fighting background.
[01:43:33]  I mean, if he comes up to me in my face, I would absolutely punch him in the face.
[01:43:38]  But am I going to make effort to go running every morning?
[01:43:41]  No.
[01:43:41]  I don't care.
[01:43:43]  He's not worth that.
[01:43:45]  He's not worth that.
[01:43:50]  You know, we can do it right here, right now, but I'm not getting in the ring and making an effort.
[01:43:55]  He's not worth going to it.
[01:43:57]  I do want to do work in it.
[01:43:59]  It comes down to that, bro.
[01:44:02]  I've got a business to run.
[01:44:03]  I'm not going to take time out to worry about Andrew Tate.
[01:44:06]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:44:07]  I'm not like him.
[01:44:08]  I'm not daddy's little rich boy.
[01:44:09]  I've got to earn my shit to get here.
[01:44:12]  So let's get that out there though.
[01:44:14]  He's the little rich boy.
[01:44:15]  Did he come from money?
[01:44:15]  Oh, he came from money.
[01:44:16]  No way.
[01:44:17]  I'm not just talking about the human trafficking money that he's got either.
[01:44:20]  I'm talking about the money that came before the money.
[01:44:23]  Oh, no doubt I've given him a load of fucking content a day.
[01:44:26]  Yeah.
[01:44:27]  This will keep him going for another four fucking years, will it?
[01:44:30]  You know what I mean?
[01:44:32]  No worries.
[01:44:32]  You guys are going to be best friends in like two years.
[01:44:34]  Yeah, I'll be making money off of his fucking dumbass as well, will I?
[01:44:38]  So, Andrew, you're fighting Floyd Mayweather then?
[01:44:41]  No, I'm joking.
[01:44:42]  I'm joking.
[01:44:43]  He's not fighting.
[01:44:43]  To be fair, Battle of the Rapists, him and Floyd, that will be for free.
[01:44:47]  To be fair.
[01:44:48]  Battle of the Rapists.
[01:44:49]  Let's get on.
[01:44:51]  Don King, you're welcome.
[01:44:52]  I've given you the title of the fight, mate.
[01:44:55]  Go for it.
[01:44:56]  Who's the biggest rapist?
[01:44:57]  Rumble of the rapists.
[01:44:59]  Yes.
[01:45:01]  Oh, shit.
[01:45:04]  Oh, fuck, dude.
[01:45:06]  Jesus Christ.

=== Building Resilience Hour by Hour (06:45) ===

[01:45:07]  Oh, my God.
[01:45:07]  Mark brought this up once.
[01:45:09]  He goes, a joke.
[01:45:10]  Not like I'm saying something on a podcast as if I mean it, but you don't really know.
[01:45:15]  But a clear, like, misdirection punchline cancellation.
[01:45:20]  I mean, Shane is the closest one.
[01:45:22]  Well, I don't think Shane was canceled for the joke.
[01:45:24]  He wasn't doing a bit.
[01:45:25]  Like, if you see Shane's actual stand-up, it's nothing like the thing that he got canceled for.
[01:45:32]  And you pose the question, I'm like, I don't know if that's happened to anybody.
[01:45:35]  I mean, maybe possibly Kevin Hart.
[01:45:37]  But that was a tweet.
[01:45:38]  Chappelle.
[01:45:39]  He's trying to be canceled.
[01:45:40]  I mean, he's not canceled, but that's a massive controversy.
[01:45:42]  Chappelle has, as Rogan would call it, escape velocity, meaning like sometimes you're so big, you just can't pull him down.
[01:45:48]  Elon has that.
[01:45:49]  Doesn't matter what the fuck Elon does.
[01:45:50]  He's like attached to too many things.
[01:45:51]  Like getting Elon out of here would like lose like the government money.
[01:45:56]  So they're like, all right, fucking let it go.
[01:45:58]  You can only be cancelled if you allow it, though, innit?
[01:46:00]  Talk to me about that.
[01:46:01]  Like what we were talking about earlier about a friend of ours who allowed it.
[01:46:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:46:09]  The minute you go into hiding and you just try and run away, and that's when the cancellation is you running from people's opinions of you.
[01:46:16]  That's really cancellation.
[01:46:17]  That's the food.
[01:46:18]  They get hungry when they love it.
[01:46:20]  They love it.
[01:46:20]  Imagine how fucked up your life's got to be, though, for you to worry about that.
[01:46:24]  That's pretty sad.
[01:46:26]  Just sitting on Reddit fucking hours and hours and hours going by every day.
[01:46:31]  Brutal.
[01:46:32]  Yeah.
[01:46:32]  I feel for those guys.
[01:46:33]  They missed a few hugs as well.
[01:46:35]  You think so?
[01:46:36]  Absolutely.
[01:46:36]  So, women, do you think the reason why...
[01:46:38]  Oh, this is interesting.
[01:46:40]  The reason why you're able to be so honest with what's going on in your life.
[01:46:45]  I love myself.
[01:46:46]  And you love yourself because your mom loved you.
[01:46:48]  Well, yeah.
[01:46:49]  But also, I'm also a decent guy.
[01:46:51]  So I'm cool with all of the little things about me that I don't think are great.
[01:46:56]  I'm like, you're a good man underneath it.
[01:46:58]  All of that is, yeah, it's fucked up.
[01:47:00]  And yeah, you've made this mistake.
[01:47:01]  And yeah, you did this thing and whatever.
[01:47:03]  And you regret that.
[01:47:04]  But the point is, is I'm a good guy.
[01:47:06]  So that's all right.
[01:47:07]  And sometimes, sometimes when someone loves us, it makes us feel like we're lovable.
[01:47:13]  And the people that don't ever get that love, I think it's hard for them to even be around people that embrace them because they're like, well, if you love me, then something must be wrong with you.
[01:47:22]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:47:23]  Like, as therapized as it sounds, like, if you love yourself, you can accept love.
[01:47:28]  Unfortunately, I think so much shit comes back to our upbringings.
[01:47:30]  And when you have a fucked up upbringing, where, like, let's be honest, there's no, it's no coincidence that serial killers, their childhoods weren't that good.
[01:47:39]  Yeah.
[01:47:39]  Funny though.
[01:47:40]  You don't say.
[01:47:41]  Really?
[01:47:41]  Yeah.
[01:47:41]  You know, like the ones who like fuck their mother's skull after cutting their head off.
[01:47:46]  Didn't have a great upbringing.
[01:47:49]  Yeah.
[01:47:49]  So yeah, that's why I'm able to look at people like Andrew Tate and go, clearly some.
[01:47:55]  I mean, your dad was a chess player.
[01:47:56]  Probably, I don't imagine chess players are that loving.
[01:47:59]  You know what I mean?
[01:48:00]  He spends hours a day moving, trying to capture the queen.
[01:48:04]  It's not really the most like giving personality trait.
[01:48:08]  Interesting.
[01:48:09]  He plays a board game fucking 12 hours a day.
[01:48:12]  You know what I mean?
[01:48:13]  Maybe he should have been paying attention to his son.
[01:48:16]  That's all I'm saying.
[01:48:18]  This is probably going to annoy him a little bit.
[01:48:20]  I don't know.
[01:48:21]  Maybe it's true, though.
[01:48:22]  Maybe he'll look at himself within himself and go, My God.
[01:48:25]  Yeah.
[01:48:25]  My dad should have put down the chessboard.
[01:48:27]  Do you think this is my, do you know what my dad was doing?
[01:48:33]  My dad was in jail.
[01:48:34]  My dad was a real bad motherfucker.
[01:48:36]  My dad would fucking stab you.
[01:48:37]  You know what I mean?
[01:48:38]  My dad broke people's legs for a living at points.
[01:48:41]  Yeah, really?
[01:48:43]  But he found the time to give you a hug.
[01:48:45]  He really did.
[01:48:48]  When he got out, he gave the best hugs.
[01:48:51]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:48:52]  What a guy.
[01:48:53]  Dad, thanks.
[01:48:55]  Appreciate you.
[01:48:56]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:48:57]  And I still turned out better than Andrew Tate.
[01:48:59]  So there you go.
[01:49:01]  Dude, do you think the reason why he brands himself as the king is because he wants his father to protect him?
[01:49:09]  No, I mean, king of what?
[01:49:12]  Romania.
[01:49:14]  Drive your little fucking fast cars and whatever, but ultimately, like, I look at people like that and I think, I just want you to be happy.
[01:49:22]  Just be happy.
[01:49:23]  Yeah.
[01:49:24]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:49:24]  Yeah.
[01:49:25]  Did it take you time to be happy?
[01:49:27]  Oh, yeah.
[01:49:28]  It did.
[01:49:28]  Yeah.
[01:49:29]  When did that start?
[01:49:30]  When did happiness start?
[01:49:33]  Well, it all started.
[01:49:34]  Not the bullshit, like, I buy a car, I'm happy.
[01:49:36]  I'm talking about like I kind of accept myself.
[01:49:39]  Yeah.
[01:49:40]  I'd say ironically, you know, I think it may have happened like in the last few years where I've just been like, oh, I'm actually all right with all of that stuff.
[01:49:48]  Like when, you know, when you get shamed publicly, it's a gift and a curse because all of a sudden everyone's laughing at you like, oh, you're the DM guy.
[01:49:55]  But then in my head, like, after I'd come out with that, I was like, you're free.
[01:49:58]  Yeah, I am.
[01:49:59]  You're free.
[01:49:59]  Fuck it.
[01:50:00]  Yeah.
[01:50:00]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:50:01]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:50:01]  Fuck it.
[01:50:02]  Like, whatever you want to think about me, it's cool.
[01:50:04]  And that it's like the most freeing thing in the world.
[01:50:07]  There's a guy who wrote a book about it called So You've Been Publicly Shamed.
[01:50:10]  And it's all about that experience that people go through.
[01:50:12]  Some people hang themselves.
[01:50:14]  Some people can't get through it.
[01:50:15]  Yeah.
[01:50:16]  And then the other people.
[01:50:17]  Powerful.
[01:50:17]  Yeah.
[01:50:17]  The other side is powerful.
[01:50:19]  It's like, what are you going to say?
[01:50:21]  I don't give a fuck.
[01:50:22]  I've went through it and I still feel good about myself.
[01:50:24]  I can go through it again.
[01:50:25]  So the same thing we're talking about.
[01:50:26]  It's easier every time, by the way.
[01:50:28]  So it's like a pretty little thing that people brush up against me now when they're like, if someone threatens me with anything, I'm like, the first time went well.
[01:50:36]  Go for it.
[01:50:37]  You know what I mean?
[01:50:38]  Yeah.
[01:50:39]  There is a, yeah, bouncing back.
[01:50:41]  There is a power to that, to the resilience.
[01:50:44]  Oh, I'm a resilient motherfucker, me, like, yeah.
[01:50:47]  Yeah.
[01:50:50]  Why do you think?
[01:50:51]  What bit?
[01:50:52]  Oh, no, no.
[01:50:52]  What builds resilience?
[01:50:54]  And can you build that in a kid without them experiencing fucked up shit?
[01:50:59]  You know what I think builds resilience?
[01:51:00]  It's like, that's what we were talking about before.
[01:51:02]  It's the love that, as corny as it sounds, but if that love is put in you early, early on, if you feel that love, you're like, no.
[01:51:12]  Like whenever that it's about to cross over into I am shit, I am worse than anything.
[01:51:17]  Everything that they are saying is true about me.
[01:51:19]  It's like underneath all of that, there's that person who loved you from day one who makes you go, No, you are a good person.
[01:51:26]  You are these things.
[01:51:27]  Don't let them win.
[01:51:28]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:51:29]  I think that's where the strength comes from.
[01:51:31]  I agree.
[01:51:32]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:51:33]  You need that foundation.
[01:51:35]  So it's like it's love, but there's always the fear of parents, which is like coddling.
[01:51:40]  And I've heard this a lot of times with parents, especially with fathers, right?
[01:51:42]  The fathers, a lot of times.
[01:51:44]  My dad wasn't like this.
[01:51:45]  My dad was like, he was the love factory for me.
[01:51:47]  But a lot of times you hear, even like my friends who are having kids now, I don't want them to be soft.

=== Muhammad Ali Charity Moments (15:23) ===

[01:51:52]  Chess players are notoriously like that.
[01:51:55]  Yeah.
[01:51:56]  It's a tough thing.
[01:51:57]  They're tough guys.
[01:51:58]  Those chess players, man.
[01:51:59]  They're tough guys.
[01:52:00]  Really?
[01:52:01]  They're raising some hard men out there.
[01:52:03]  You know what I mean?
[01:52:04]  Because I thought it was like.
[01:52:09]  But it's a chess player.
[01:52:10]  You've got to watch out for the quiet one.
[01:52:13]  Honestly.
[01:52:14]  It's tough.
[01:52:16]  Oh, my God, dude.
[01:52:19]  Okay.
[01:52:20]  All right.
[01:52:20]  So outside of chess players, what they're just dark.
[01:52:24]  Yeah, yeah, it gets dark.
[01:52:25]  The dark arts.
[01:52:26]  The dark art.
[01:52:27]  The dark arts of chess.
[01:52:29]  The Harry Potters of chess.
[01:52:30]  Absolutely, man.
[01:52:32]  So you have kids.
[01:52:33]  How are you going to make your kids resilient?
[01:52:36]  You got to.
[01:52:37]  Without them going through fucked up things that you went through.
[01:52:40]  You don't want your kids to experience the trauma you went through, right?
[01:52:42]  No, no.
[01:52:44]  When the time comes, I'd want to be, you know, a good, good dad and make sure that I'm loving, caring, plenty of hugs, you know, plenty of attention.
[01:52:57]  All the good stuff in life.
[01:52:59]  Show them how to treat people well.
[01:53:00]  That's all you need to do.
[01:53:01]  Are you going to be chess in your household?
[01:53:05]  No chess.
[01:53:06]  Exactly.
[01:53:07]  Honestly.
[01:53:08]  Such a weird guy, isn't it?
[01:53:11]  Such a weird guy.
[01:53:12]  I still can't believe it.
[01:53:14]  Like, this came out recently, and I was like, he's still talking about me.
[01:53:17]  That was telling you, we made a video in 2018.
[01:53:20]  I've never spoken about him since.
[01:53:22]  So weird, man.
[01:53:23]  Really?
[01:53:23]  Yeah.
[01:53:24]  Can you think about this, right?
[01:53:25]  You make it a joke in 2018.
[01:53:27]  Yeah.
[01:53:27]  Someone's still talking about it four years later.
[01:53:30]  Did you say something that really stung?
[01:53:32]  I guess I've just got a habit of putting my finger on the where it hurts.
[01:53:36]  Yeah.
[01:53:38]  Call it how I say it.
[01:53:40]  But hopefully he takes this one a bit better.
[01:53:44]  Would you play him in chess for charity?
[01:53:46]  I think that may be something we should set up.
[01:53:48]  Yeah.
[01:53:48]  Yeah, because I'm all about charity.
[01:53:50]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:53:51]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:53:51]  I raised 100 grand for disabled children last year.
[01:53:55]  100 grand for spazzes?
[01:53:56]  That's pretty impressive.
[01:53:58]  You can't say that.
[01:54:00]  I'm in America.
[01:54:01]  You just can't call them retards.
[01:54:03]  Whatever you want to call them is fine.
[01:54:05]  But the main thing is I'm looking after them.
[01:54:07]  Don't you worry.
[01:54:08]  I got them.
[01:54:08]  How'd you raise the hundred grand?
[01:54:09]  Definitely not jogging.
[01:54:10]  We did.
[01:54:11]  Well, actually, get the fuck out of here.
[01:54:14]  We played soccer.
[01:54:16]  We did an influencer five-aside tournament and we had like a big-time footballer turn up.
[01:54:22]  And Twitch donated.
[01:54:24]  We got all the people to donate.
[01:54:25]  Raised like the children's children's like hospital slash accommodation.
[01:54:32]  They cost them 250 grand a year to stay open.
[01:54:36]  And we raised 100 grand.
[01:54:37]  We're going to do it again this year.
[01:54:38]  It's going to be great.
[01:54:39]  We need to do some charity, bro.
[01:54:40]  Yeah.
[01:54:41]  Every time I see that.
[01:54:42]  Who doesn't do charity work?
[01:54:43]  Who?
[01:54:43]  Andrew Tate.
[01:54:44]  Is that right?
[01:54:45]  We need to start a charity.
[01:54:47]  We need to start a charity.
[01:54:48]  But every time I try to suggest that you push back.
[01:54:51]  Yeah, Mark is not into it.
[01:54:52]  He wants all the money.
[01:54:53]  I don't even think that.
[01:54:54]  What is it about helping the he's just starving or whatever that you don't want to do?
[01:54:58]  Starving.
[01:54:59]  Isn't it?
[01:54:59]  You know so little about charity.
[01:55:01]  I bring this into him all the time.
[01:55:03]  This guy's never donated all the time.
[01:55:06]  I'm like, yo, we should start a donation or a fund.
[01:55:08]  And he was like, he's really trying to make himself look good.
[01:55:11]  Oh, I suggested it.
[01:55:12]  When was the first time I brought this up to you?
[01:55:14]  And you made it a whole Jesus thing, fucking dork.
[01:55:17]  You did.
[01:55:18]  You made it a whole Jesus thing.
[01:55:19]  And I was like, that's why.
[01:55:20]  He brought it up to me no shit a week ago.
[01:55:22]  Yeah, to you?
[01:55:23]  When did I bring it up to you?
[01:55:24]  I brought it up to you two years ago.
[01:55:25]  I said, why don't we help some people?
[01:55:26]  Why don't we use our newfound influence and riches to help people?
[01:55:30]  Who would you like to help?
[01:55:31]  You said Jesus, dude.
[01:55:32]  I said that?
[01:55:33]  Yes.
[01:55:33]  Why does Jesus have money?
[01:55:34]  I don't know if it's like you.
[01:55:34]  Exactly.
[01:55:35]  You said, let's give it to the church.
[01:55:36]  The church knows what to do with it.
[01:55:38]  Okay, that actually wouldn't be the worst option, okay?
[01:55:40]  But I feel like we could give it to people directly.
[01:55:42]  And then you said this, which was weird.
[01:55:43]  You were like, well, why don't we just give it to the government?
[01:55:44]  Because they know how to spend money effectively.
[01:55:47]  It was weird that you said that.
[01:55:48]  Exactly.
[01:55:48]  We get some new roads or something.
[01:55:49]  Exactly.
[01:55:50]  But I thought that maybe we should do a charity, and I think that we should help.
[01:55:54]  I don't know.
[01:55:55]  What do you think?
[01:55:56]  I'm not an expert.
[01:55:57]  Pick your favorite one.
[01:55:57]  Just pick the one that you donate to the most.
[01:55:59]  Probably Jews of fucking landlords.
[01:56:02]  Every month I'm giving them a goddamn donation out of my fucking bank account.
[01:56:05]  I'm going to keep doing it to charity.
[01:56:08]  You can't just pick an ethnic group and just be like, oh, that's who I'm donating to.
[01:56:11]  That's not how that works.
[01:56:11]  Okay.
[01:56:12]  Struggling podcasters.
[01:56:13]  Can we do this?
[01:56:18]  They really need our help right now.
[01:56:22]  You're shorty out here.
[01:56:24]  Funny, out here shooting.
[01:56:26]  Like Niall Ranger.
[01:56:28]  You got it that time.
[01:56:29]  I mean, you've got no.
[01:56:34]  Okay.
[01:56:35]  Poor Niall.
[01:56:36]  Poor Niall, man.
[01:56:37]  Shout out to Niall, bro.
[01:56:38]  I saw him work into Tesco, dude.
[01:56:40]  I walked down to the...
[01:56:43]  There's a guy you don't want to cross the title.
[01:56:44]  Well, that's a big man.
[01:56:45]  He's about 6'5.
[01:56:46]  Yeah.
[01:56:47]  6'5.
[01:56:47]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:56:48]  Whoa.
[01:56:50]  Can he knuckle up?
[01:56:51]  I would think so, yeah.
[01:56:52]  Yeah.
[01:56:52]  Yeah, I think he's pretty tough, to be fair to him.
[01:56:54]  And he wasn't trying to be tough with you at all.
[01:56:55]  No, he was lovely, actually.
[01:56:57]  Really?
[01:56:57]  Yeah.
[01:56:58]  Yeah.
[01:56:58]  Breath smelled good?
[01:57:00]  Yeah.
[01:57:01]  Fire.
[01:57:03]  I didn't get that close.
[01:57:05]  Oh, okay.
[01:57:05]  Okay.
[01:57:06]  I'm assuming.
[01:57:07]  Yeah.
[01:57:07]  Yeah.
[01:57:08]  Okay.
[01:57:08]  Well, look, listen, I know we don't have all night with you, Brian.
[01:57:14]  But before we leave, I want to be here to answer any questions that you have about America before you come because I think that you're going to go.
[01:57:24]  You've never been to America?
[01:57:26]  Wait, are you a felon or something like that?
[01:57:28]  I've never been to America.
[01:57:28]  Can you legally come to America?
[01:57:30]  I'm not like John Fury or what's it called?
[01:57:33]  You know what that was about.
[01:57:35]  But about the mafia, the Irish Mafia.
[01:57:38]  Fucking mad, right?
[01:57:39]  But the tricky thing is I actually understand Tommy's situation.
[01:57:44]  Tommy's just been roped into this.
[01:57:45]  Exactly.
[01:57:46]  And you can't exact, because what they're using him is for leverage, right?
[01:57:50]  Like they're going to bring him into the fucking office, ask all about it.
[01:57:52]  And Tommy's just like, I'm just fucking hanging around.
[01:57:54]  Tommy's the last person you're going to ask anything to.
[01:57:56]  Wait, really?
[01:57:57]  Well, he's just a kid, you know what I mean?
[01:57:59]  He's like a good-looking lad, but he's not like.
[01:58:02]  He seems kind of sweet.
[01:58:03]  But he's not going to hack into NASA anytime soon.
[01:58:05]  Do you know what I mean?
[01:58:06]  You guys don't have to worry about national security with Tommy Fury.
[01:58:11]  What he's saying.
[01:58:12]  Well, I'm just not saying he's not the smartest person you'll ever meet in your life.
[01:58:15]  He's just a nice guy.
[01:58:16]  He's a nice guy.
[01:58:17]  But is he like a fucking idiot?
[01:58:20]  No, that's not what he's saying.
[01:58:22]  Was that what you were saying?
[01:58:24]  There's a lot of furies.
[01:58:25]  There's only one Andrew Tay.
[01:58:27]  I've got to be careful with these Furies.
[01:58:28]  No, I like the Furies.
[01:58:30]  They're good people.
[01:58:30]  No, no.
[01:58:31]  Dude, I actually, I felt bad for Tommy because I know that situation where like he's going to be 2 million.
[01:58:36]  Bro.
[01:58:36]  And it was robbed from him just because he knew a guy.
[01:58:39]  Yeah.
[01:58:40]  Yeah.
[01:58:41]  And it would be hard for him if he went in there and started answering questions.
[01:58:45]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:58:46]  That's not worth 2 million.
[01:58:48]  Right?
[01:58:48]  Like, that's more stress for everybody.
[01:58:50]  I think his dad's seen it coming because his dad did a video on social beforehand being like, we can't go to America, so it's got to be somewhere else.
[01:58:56]  And I think he knew like.
[01:58:57]  Oh, fuck.
[01:58:58]  Yeah, because his dad's been...
[01:59:00]  His dad can't get into America because he gouged a man's eye out years ago.
[01:59:03]  Really?
[01:59:04]  I don't know if you know about Big John, but Big John's a character.
[01:59:07]  Is his dad a Batman?
[01:59:09]  His dad's a bad motherfucker.
[01:59:10]  Talk to him for sure.
[01:59:11]  Like, he's a big guy.
[01:59:13]  Like, he's in his 50s.
[01:59:14]  And you think to yourself, not many 50-year-old men who you'd probably think twice about, like, in that regard, but he's up there.
[01:59:20]  Big guy.
[01:59:21]  His hands are like shovels.
[01:59:22]  He's more intimidating than Tyson Fury.
[01:59:24]  Wow.
[01:59:24]  Get out of here.
[01:59:24]  Yeah, because he's the guy who created Tyson.
[01:59:26]  Like, he's fucking crazy.
[01:59:28]  Yeah.
[01:59:28]  Like, he's just like.
[01:59:30]  Yeah.
[01:59:31]  And you got to drink 30 Diet Cokes a day to cope with what your dad did.
[01:59:34]  Do you?
[01:59:35]  That's probably a scary motherfucker.
[01:59:37]  Oh, yeah.
[01:59:38]  It says on the internet, like, he gouged a man's eye out over a debt.
[01:59:43]  You know what I mean?
[01:59:44]  That makes sense.
[01:59:44]  He was a journeyman boxer, but like I remember that.
[01:59:46]  Yeah, like Bayon Unbel and all that as well.
[01:59:49]  But very talented, actually, apparently.
[01:59:51]  I think that's probably why he put his sons into it and trained them up.
[01:59:55]  Yeah.
[01:59:55]  I mean, Tyson.
[01:59:57]  Tyson, you know, when Tyson beat Deontay Wilder, they had a live camera on John in this country because he couldn't get in the mirror.
[02:00:03]  And he screams at the camera and he goes, That's what's come out of these balls.
[02:00:09]  Like the ultimate pro dad comment, innit?
[02:00:11]  Fucking crazy.
[02:00:12]  There's a great conversation that he has on the phone with his dad.
[02:00:16]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[02:00:16]  That's that's all that same guy.
[02:00:18]  He cried, dude.
[02:00:18]  Like it was super, it was so vulnerable and he was the biggest man that ever lived.
[02:00:22]  Bro, I was, I was too strong for him, dad.
[02:00:25]  I rolled him right over.
[02:00:26]  Oh, dude, it was so cool.
[02:00:28]  I love that moment.
[02:00:29]  Oh, that's amazing.
[02:00:29]  Yeah, he seemed like a little kid.
[02:00:31]  He's the heavyweight champ in the world.
[02:00:33]  He looked like he was 13 years old.
[02:00:35]  Still a child, though, in that moment.
[02:00:37]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:00:37]  That's what happens when your family loves you.
[02:00:39]  Yeah, real talk.
[02:00:41]  Real talk, dude.
[02:00:43]  Yo, it was honestly, and this is maybe a hot take about Tyson.
[02:00:47]  I think that Tyson is the greatest heavyweight ever.
[02:00:50]  I think he's the greatest, which makes him probably the, I don't know.
[02:00:53]  What's the boxing expert saying, though?
[02:00:56]  What do you think?
[02:00:57]  I agree with that one.
[02:00:58]  Yeah.
[02:00:58]  Do you mean that in the sense of heavyweight?
[02:01:00]  If they all fought, if they all fought each other, I don't think anybody could beat Tyson.
[02:01:03]  Because of right, okay.
[02:01:05]  I think the size, the skill, now the power.
[02:01:08]  Early in his career, he didn't see this power.
[02:01:09]  And all of a sudden, like, he's just fucking up.
[02:01:11]  I think Yusuk could give him some trouble.
[02:01:14]  He's so small, dude.
[02:01:15]  He's not.
[02:01:16]  Yusuk's what, 6'2?
[02:01:17]  No, but when you meet Tyson, although he's like, he has weaknesses as well, though.
[02:01:23]  Like, he's big, but if you, so if you watch Anthony Joshua versus Alexander Yusuk, and then right afterwards, watch Deontay Wilder versus Tyson Fury, how slow the Fury Wilder fight went is alarming.
[02:01:37]  You realize the pace that Yusuk sets is light speed.
[02:01:41]  So I'm not saying that Yusuk would beat Tyson, but I think he'll give him a lot of problems.
[02:01:46]  This is the fittest heavyweight we've ever seen.
[02:01:48]  No one is as fit as Yusuk.
[02:01:50]  No one, not at that size.
[02:01:52]  Like he's six foot three as well.
[02:01:53]  People think he's a small man.
[02:01:54]  He's massive.
[02:01:55]  But what happens when Tyson starts leaning on him?
[02:01:57]  What happens when he grabs him up and he leans on him and you got 300, whatever fucking pounds he is?
[02:02:02]  I don't think he can get close enough with how fast Yusuk is to employ that.
[02:02:09]  You can do that to a wilder who's gassed after two rounds.
[02:02:12]  Yusuk's feet never stop moving for 12 rounds.
[02:02:14]  He does four minute rounds with 30 seconds rest in training.
[02:02:17]  He is the fittest guy.
[02:02:18]  Like, I'm not saying that.
[02:02:20]  I just think calling it over and like Fury's talking right now about, oh, I'm the greatest.
[02:02:25]  I'm the greatest in my generation.
[02:02:26]  You haven't fought AJ.
[02:02:27]  You haven't fought Yusuk.
[02:02:29]  Lennox Lewis fought everyone.
[02:02:31]  Look, Lennox is the other one.
[02:02:32]  Yeah.
[02:02:32]  Right.
[02:02:32]  And Lennox got caught by Haseem Rockman.
[02:02:35]  I think that hurts the legacy.
[02:02:36]  But like Lennox was the other one.
[02:02:37]  I was like, I don't really see anybody beating him.
[02:02:39]  Before that, it was like, and again, this isn't even my generation just watching it.
[02:02:43]  Like, Larry Holmes was fucking unbelievable.
[02:02:45]  Right.
[02:02:46]  I mean, were you?
[02:02:46]  No, you're younger than me.
[02:02:47]  I went back and watched, though.
[02:02:48]  Like, I interviewed Muhammad Ali's grandson recently.
[02:02:51]  I don't know if you've seen it.
[02:02:51]  The kid who's boxing now.
[02:02:53]  Yeah.
[02:02:53]  And it's called like The Legacy Continues.
[02:02:56]  And I was watching old Muhammad Ali videos.
[02:02:59]  I mean, Ali was unbelievable.
[02:03:00]  Ali also at like the peak weight.
[02:03:03]  Is it fair to compare someone who would say greatest ever when without Muhammad Ali?
[02:03:09]  Fury ain't going to be doing half the shit he's doing right now.
[02:03:11]  Like, is the innovator, the original creator, the greatest, or is the guy who watched that and went, oh, let me put my, you know what I mean?
[02:03:19]  I mean, like, when it comes to boxing, it's like, who would win?
[02:03:22]  Like, that's just what I'm doing.
[02:03:23]  I guess if you're saying that, then Fury's probably right up there.
[02:03:25]  Yeah.
[02:03:25]  Who is the most influential?
[02:03:27]  Like, yeah, nobody's going to be completely 50 years of science, technology, everything else.
[02:03:33]  Because who knows?
[02:03:33]  What if Muhammad Ali was raised now?
[02:03:35]  Like, he'd probably fight a cruiserweight and he'd be like the most dominant.
[02:03:37]  Oh, he would have grown up a lot bigger because he would have been far a lot more and he would have been a huge guy.
[02:03:41]  But I think that Fury's wins, his best wins against Klitschko and Deontay.
[02:03:49]  They don't, there's just not enough of a legacy right now for me to go.
[02:03:53]  Like when you look at what Lennox did or what Muhammad, all the wars, Muhammad Ali, like to me, being great is not just winning all the time.
[02:04:00]  Being great is like overcoming adversity.
[02:04:02]  And no one had more than Muhammad Ali because when his legs were gone, he came back.
[02:04:06]  The guy was a punching bag at times and he still overcome it.
[02:04:09]  I mean, that's that's what led to the last thing you want to know about yourself as a boxer is you have a great jaw.
[02:04:15]  And early in his career, he was never touched.
[02:04:16]  And later in his career, he found out that he could take a hit.
[02:04:20]  I mean, that Fraser fight where he gets his jaw broken and then goes to decision.
[02:04:26]  I mean, that's insane.
[02:04:27]  Have you seen Mike Tyson's clip where they say, what do you think of Muhammad Ali compared to you?
[02:04:33]  Tyson starts crying.
[02:04:33]  He's like, he's willing to die for this.
[02:04:36]  And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not him.
[02:04:38]  That was when I was like, yeah.
[02:04:40]  No, Ali is a different dude.
[02:04:42]  My pops was a journalist, and he would get to interview Ali a lot.
[02:04:47]  And he has like, he has like footage of him like shadow boxing with Muhammad Ali.
[02:04:51]  It's like the craziest thing ever.
[02:04:52]  Wow.
[02:04:53]  And Ali has a joke.
[02:04:54]  He goes, What do you box?
[02:04:55]  Oranges?
[02:04:57]  And but he asked Ali before Frazier, he goes, dude, not Fraser.
[02:05:00]  He asked Ali before Foreman.
[02:05:02]  He goes, How are you going to beat this guy?
[02:05:03]  Like this, this, if people don't remember, like when Foreman fought Frazier, which was before Ali, he hit Frazier with an uppercut that lifted him off the canvas.
[02:05:12]  Like the power was different.
[02:05:14]  Like nobody had seen this before, right?
[02:05:17]  So the idea that Ali was going to come back and like fight him, it was like, were you crazy?
[02:05:21]  Like, how are you?
[02:05:22]  He goes, how are you going to beat this guy?
[02:05:23]  And he goes, he goes, Ali goes, here's the thing.
[02:05:28]  Like, you do what you do.
[02:05:31]  All these people, you do what you do.
[02:05:32]  You know how to be a journalist.
[02:05:34]  Scientists know how to be scientists.
[02:05:35]  Like, I know how to box.
[02:05:37]  I'm just going to get it done.
[02:05:38]  It's simple as that.
[02:05:39]  Like, there's not even a question in my mind.
[02:05:41]  I'm going to beat this guy.
[02:05:42]  And you're stupid to think that I'm not going to beat him.
[02:05:44]  Like, the supreme confidence.
[02:05:46]  Everybody thought it was bullshit.
[02:05:47]  And he goes out there and he fucking gets it done.
[02:05:49]  And that wasn't the original strategy.
[02:05:51]  The robot was not the original strategy.
[02:05:54]  But he just found a fucking way.
[02:05:55]  Did you hear Foreman's interview on him where Foreman was like, I hit him, and it was just like, yeah, he said, I felt like I was in there with someone on a sort of like supernatural.
[02:06:07]  And I think that the power of the mind is like, you really see that in fighting sometimes.
[02:06:12]  Like, I think realistically, Tyson Fury probably shouldn't have won a few of his fights against Deontay Wilder.
[02:06:17]  Like when he got nailed to the floor, like when he got dropped twice in that round, how many fighters get back up and then knock this guy out?
[02:06:24]  But he's got it up there where I think religion helps fight us as well.
[02:06:28]  Talk to me.
[02:06:28]  Well, this idea that, like, yeah, like that God is with you in there and all of that.
[02:06:33]  Like, I think Muhammad Ali had that.
[02:06:35]  And one of my mates, who was a really high-level amateur box, I boxed for Great Britain, and that he was like, I wish I was religious because it seems to fucking motivate the hell out of these fuckers.
[02:06:45]  He's in there as a fucking atheist thinking, for fuck's sake, I wish God was with me right now.
[02:06:49]  Yeah, because if they die in the ring, they get to go to heaven.
[02:06:51]  Aha.
[02:06:52]  You guys are convinced that there's nothing to risk yet.
[02:06:55]  It's a huge advantage.
[02:06:57]  It removes the urgency of survival.
[02:07:00]  Maybe they should make suicide bombers boxers.
[02:07:02]  Yes.
[02:07:03]  Just saying.
[02:07:03]  Whoa.
[02:07:04]  That's a great idea.
[02:07:05]  That'd be a good promotion.
[02:07:07]  That'd be crazy.
[02:07:07]  There we go.
[02:07:08]  I've been saying I want a Pakistani champion.
[02:07:10]  We can really just get this one.
[02:07:12]  Loser blows himself up.
[02:07:15]  Okay.

=== Anytime Next Man Dude (02:26) ===

[02:07:16]  Sir, anything before you leave?
[02:07:18]  Please tell the people where they can find you.
[02:07:21]  I watch your podcast.
[02:07:22]  I think it's great.
[02:07:23]  You've got some amazing interviews up already.
[02:07:25]  So what I often tell people who have a podcast is don't say just listen to the podcast.
[02:07:29]  Tell them an interview that is a great example of your work, and then they can just start at that one.
[02:07:35]  I'd say the Louis Theroux one has got to be up there.
[02:07:40]  He is just the funniest dude.
[02:07:41]  And we talked about him being in there with the paedophiles in the prison and all that.
[02:07:45]  And all you crazy Americans.
[02:07:49]  And then also, I also interviewed a girl called Elizabeth Smart, who was kidnapped for nine months.
[02:07:55]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:07:55]  And that was one of those ones where I was like, fuck me, I might cry here.
[02:07:59]  Like, this was hearing about when she was taken at 14 years old by this crazy Mormon guy.
[02:08:05]  Yeah.
[02:08:05]  And it was like one of the most challenging as an interviewer interviews.
[02:08:10]  So yeah, those are the two ends of the spectrum for me would be very serious, like in-depth, or very funny and light-hearted.
[02:08:18]  Okay.
[02:08:18]  And then lastly, what is the dream podcast interview?
[02:08:22]  Joe Rogan.
[02:08:23]  And I hate to be cliche.
[02:08:25]  He's the GOAT, bro.
[02:08:26]  No, but, you know, before I had a prayer, a job, I was just sitting listening to his, him and Eddie Bravo, just chatting shit.
[02:08:34]  You know, I'm a day one ass sort of thing.
[02:08:35]  So I think it, but it wouldn't necessarily, I feel like I've heard everything he has to say.
[02:08:39]  It's just more of a, just to sit with him and be like, hey, I did it.
[02:08:43]  But aside from that, maybe like a rapper like Andrew Tate, maybe.
[02:08:49]  Maybe not Andrew Tate.
[02:08:51]  Nah, like Eminem or someone like that.
[02:08:53]  Yeah.
[02:08:53]  Like some global superstar.
[02:08:55]  But more just to say, hey, I did it.
[02:08:57]  You know what I mean?
[02:08:58]  Yeah.
[02:08:59]  I'd like to get you one.
[02:09:00]  I would love that.
[02:09:01]  Absolutely.
[02:09:01]  Anytime.
[02:09:02]  Next time you're back in the UK.
[02:09:03]  100%.
[02:09:03]  Let's do it.
[02:09:04]  I think this is going to be.
[02:09:05]  This is going to be a fun one.
[02:09:07]  This is going to go down well.
[02:09:08]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:09:09]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:09:09]  You're a good man, dude.
[02:09:10]  Hey, listen, True Jordy, go check out our shit.
[02:09:12]  Support all his shit.
[02:09:14]  Appreciate it.
[02:09:15]  Really, really so impressed with everything you're doing out here.
[02:09:17]  I mean that.
[02:09:18]  Thanks very much.
[02:09:19]  Absolutely killing it, dude.
[02:09:20]  If you ever need a studio, I'll put you in mine.
[02:09:22]  Please.
[02:09:23]  Absolutely.
[02:09:23]  Please.
[02:09:24]  I really mean that.
[02:09:24]  But no, you are fucking crushing it.
[02:09:26]  And like, yeah, I do not, I hope you don't give a flying fuck about mainstream acceptance because that is a sinking ship and you are on the rising tide.
[02:09:36]  So please do not care about that.
[02:09:40]  Absolutely.
[02:09:40]  Okay.
[02:09:41]  Cheers, boys.
[02:09:42]  Thanks very much.