Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh - Kim K says “Work Hard AND Long” | Flagrant 2 with Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh
Aired: 2022-03-15
Duration: 01:53:59


=== Inspiration Porn Drama (13:40) ===

[00:00:00]  Do you guys find it at all coincidental that all this drama is happening right around the start of their brand new show on Hulu?
[00:00:07]  I didn't even think about that.
[00:00:08]  Wait, are you telling me they create controversy just to get ratings?
[00:00:11]  I'm just wondering because like right now, like we're looking at it as this like huge thing where like Kim's being bullied and she's the victim and it's all this other stuff.
[00:00:18]  And it's like, well, when do you, when do you start living your life online only?
[00:00:22]  And then when do you stop?
[00:00:24]  Because like.
[00:00:24]  I think they were pretty much okay with Lamar Odom going through his troubles.
[00:00:28]  I think they gave him the crack.
[00:00:29]  For everybody.
[00:00:30]  I think they gave him the crack.
[00:00:32]  Yeah, that's a hot take.
[00:00:33]  That's a hot take.
[00:00:34]  They might have gone that far.
[00:00:35]  Is it a smoking take?
[00:00:36]  Maybe.
[00:00:38]  I know.
[00:00:39]  I'm just like, how bad should we feel?
[00:00:41]  I don't.
[00:00:42]  Yeah.
[00:00:43]  I don't.
[00:00:43]  This is the deal you made.
[00:00:44]  You signed up for this.
[00:00:45]  You created this.
[00:00:46]  Not only how bad should we feel.
[00:00:48]  It's like, do they want this?
[00:00:50]  I think, at the very least, Chris wants it.
[00:00:53]  What's the mom's name?
[00:00:53]  Chris?
[00:00:54]  Yeah.
[00:00:54]  She wants it.
[00:00:55]  She down for all of it.
[00:00:56]  Yeah.
[00:00:56]  I think she loves it.
[00:00:57]  Kim might feel some kind of way, but she's not going to go against her mom.
[00:01:00]  Yeah.
[00:01:01]  And I think this is the beast you created.
[00:01:03]  And now you have to deal with the consequences sometimes of your actions.
[00:01:06]  Yeah.
[00:01:06]  And that's just what's happening.
[00:01:08]  Yeah.
[00:01:08]  You, both of them.
[00:01:10]  I feel that way about both of them.
[00:01:11]  Kim, you married Kanye.
[00:01:13]  Did you expect him to not spazz out sometimes?
[00:01:15]  And Kanye, you married Kim and had kids with Kim.
[00:01:18]  Did you expect her to not put her daughter's life online?
[00:01:22]  That's the whole model.
[00:01:23]  That's how you got to know her.
[00:01:25]  What did you think was going to happen?
[00:01:26]  Neither one of you guys thought this through, and you both seem flapper-guessed that it's happening.
[00:01:30]  Yeah.
[00:01:30]  I wonder if they're both in on it.
[00:01:33]  I hope so.
[00:01:34]  I wonder if they're all in on it.
[00:01:35]  I don't know what Kanye necessarily has to gain.
[00:01:39]  I mean, he wants to, he wants attention.
[00:01:42]  Yeah, I guess you're right.
[00:01:43]  For him, it's never been negative and positive attention.
[00:01:45]  It's always been.
[00:01:46]  Yeah, they put him on a MAGA hat.
[00:01:47]  I mean, he'll definitely fight for his kids.
[00:01:50]  And that is why him and Kim kind of are a matchmate in heaven because for both of them, all attention is good.
[00:01:54]  There's no negative.
[00:01:55]  There's no positive.
[00:01:56]  It's all good.
[00:01:57]  We win in all of it.
[00:01:58]  So maybe you're right.
[00:01:59]  Yeah, I'm just not, I'm not familiar enough with like how deeply involved in his kids' lives he is.
[00:02:04]  And because you hear all these rumors, like I hear some rumors, like he's at all these games and everything like that, and he's like really part of it.
[00:02:10]  And then I hear other rumors like he was just living in Montana or Wyoming, wherever the fuck he was.
[00:02:14]  Yeah.
[00:02:15]  And so I'm not, I don't know how intimate his involvement is.
[00:02:19]  And I don't know if this is like a ploy to get public sympathy or he's truly trying to have his kids, you know, come to his events, et cetera.
[00:02:26]  I don't know what to think, but we're talking about it.
[00:02:28]  And maybe this is what they want.
[00:02:30]  And maybe they've all managed to make a lot of money off of us talking about their lives and not just us, but like the world.
[00:02:36]  You know, it's impressive.
[00:02:37]  There's a war going on.
[00:02:38]  And we're talking about the real war.
[00:02:40]  Kim and Kanye.
[00:02:41]  The custody war.
[00:02:42]  Isn't that crazy?
[00:02:43]  That's the new trailer for their show just dropped today.
[00:02:46]  I saw that.
[00:02:47]  Yeah.
[00:02:47]  And like features all the characters.
[00:02:49]  Yeah.
[00:02:49]  It's basically like, I mean, this is what I guess reality TV is.
[00:02:53]  It's like this hybridized like social media plus like contemporary media mashup.
[00:02:57]  Yeah.
[00:02:58]  Probably hybridized scripted plus unscripted.
[00:03:00]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:03:00]  But like it doesn't only exist on like TV.
[00:03:03]  Like it has to exist in the real world, which is social media.
[00:03:08]  I think we're going to realize like all of this shit is the way when people found out that like, what was that one reality show that people found out was fake?
[00:03:14]  I mean, they're all kind of fake, but I think like the Hills or something.
[00:03:17]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:03:18]  Like the whole time it was.
[00:03:19]  Like the whole thing came off and everyone's like, oh, wait, we thought it was real.
[00:03:22]  I wonder if that's going to be like this era of social media.
[00:03:25]  And I wonder if we'll care.
[00:03:26]  I mean, I think people care as much as the Hills and they'll be like, yeah, of course it's fake.
[00:03:29]  Yeah.
[00:03:29]  It's on Instagram.
[00:03:30]  Duh, it's fake.
[00:03:31]  Like, you know what I mean?
[00:03:32]  But I just think we're just bought into like the new level of like reality, which is like this digital social media reality.
[00:03:38]  You know what I mean?
[00:03:39]  Yeah.
[00:03:39]  Yeah.
[00:03:39]  I've been watching, I just started Drive to Survive again.
[00:03:42]  Like the new season came out on that show.
[00:03:44]  It's the F1 show.
[00:03:45]  It's phenomenal.
[00:03:45]  It's just the best show.
[00:03:46]  And what is always so interesting about it to me is that I know the outcome of these races.
[00:03:51]  I know the outcome of this season.
[00:03:53]  A lot of these drivers aren't even with the teams that they're on in the season anymore, yet I'm still watching.
[00:03:57]  Right.
[00:03:58]  And it's like, why are you doing that?
[00:03:59]  He says, our Kardashians.
[00:04:01]  That's, yeah, that's the thing about the finish.
[00:04:03]  That's why you were saying it.
[00:04:04]  And I was just like, oh, fuck, you're right.
[00:04:06]  So it's like, I'm reliving these moments in the same way that we relive like a Super Bowl.
[00:04:10]  Like, you ever see a team after you win a Super Bowl, you watch the documentary of the team winning the Super Bowl, and it's just as fun.
[00:04:15]  It's just the most exciting parts, right?
[00:04:17]  It's like the protein-packed, like the sweet, the salty, it's everything.
[00:04:21]  It's like the umami or whatever that fucking phrase is of the Super Bowl.
[00:04:25]  And it just delivers to direct 30, 60 minutes.
[00:04:28]  And we already know all the drama with the Kardashians.
[00:04:31]  This season is going to recap all the things we already know.
[00:04:34]  Maybe it gives us a little bit more, right?
[00:04:35]  Maybe they're like, what is the immediate reaction when Kanye is acting like this, et cetera?
[00:04:39]  But I mean, if you think that Kanye is going to be looked at favorably in this documentary or in this show, you're out of your fucking mind.
[00:04:47]  So maybe this is him also like fighting for his narrative.
[00:04:50]  He hasn't mentioned that at all, though.
[00:04:52]  What though?
[00:04:52]  I would assume that he because that shit ain't out yet.
[00:04:54]  He don't know what it's going to be.
[00:04:55]  He doesn't know the edit.
[00:04:56]  But if you're suggesting working now in order to get ahead of the bad press from the story, then he would mention that and be like, guys, I'm fighting for my kids and they're trying to just get clicks and views for their show, blah, blah, blah.
[00:05:06]  That's true.
[00:05:07]  Like, I would assume he would bring it up if he was actually trying to get ahead of it.
[00:05:09]  And maybe he has.
[00:05:10]  I'm not exactly sure.
[00:05:11]  Maybe he alludes to it sometimes.
[00:05:13]  What does he say?
[00:05:14]  Like, just the nanny.
[00:05:15]  It's like, oh, the nanny is like saying bad shit about me, like behind my back and like turning Kim against me.
[00:05:21]  And like, he's trying to create the narrative where it's like, everybody's out to get me.
[00:05:26]  I saw something that they leaked.
[00:05:27]  Maybe it was part of the maybe it was part of the trailer, but of Kanye maybe saying some unfavorable things to Kim.
[00:05:35]  And I think that you're going to see a lot of that.
[00:05:36]  And then when couples beef, there's unfavorable things said.
[00:05:39]  Yeah, if you get upset at somebody, if either thing a spouse says in a fight, it's like you probably haven't been in love.
[00:05:46]  That's true.
[00:05:46]  Maybe saying some crazy shit to each other.
[00:05:48]  And also think about it.
[00:05:49]  Like, that's what you say while you still love them.
[00:05:52]  Yeah.
[00:05:52]  What if they don't want to be with you anymore and they have the access to your kids?
[00:05:56]  Yeah.
[00:05:56]  Like people who've been divorced and like have kids understand this stuff.
[00:06:00]  Yeah.
[00:06:00]  But none of us have.
[00:06:02]  Nope.
[00:06:03]  Imagine someone trying to take away the most important thing in your entire life.
[00:06:07]  Yep.
[00:06:08]  Right?
[00:06:09]  I mean, for Kanye, I guess that would be taking away music, but I believed you.
[00:06:18]  But no, but like, that's a crazy thing.
[00:06:20]  I would go crazy.
[00:06:21]  I'd go temporarily insane.
[00:06:22]  Yeah.
[00:06:23]  Yeah.
[00:06:23]  But you get made fun of if you do that online, though.
[00:06:25]  If you're a dude trying to get your kids back, like you just get clowned on.
[00:06:28]  Like, that was that dude, Tyrese, that musician.
[00:06:31]  Do you remember this?
[00:06:32]  No.
[00:06:32]  He like went on live.
[00:06:33]  Tyrese Gibson.
[00:06:34]  Yeah, he was like, I want my kids back.
[00:06:36]  Like, and he starts crying.
[00:06:37]  It became a meme.
[00:06:38]  You've probably seen the meme now.
[00:06:40]  Yeah.
[00:06:41]  And the meme is from the darkest moment in his life.
[00:06:44]  That's what happened.
[00:06:45]  His wife was trying to take his kids away?
[00:06:47]  Something like that.
[00:06:47]  Like, I don't know the details specifically, but I just know he was on live crying about trying to get his kids back.
[00:06:52]  And everyone was like, this fucking loser crying about his kids.
[00:06:55]  Because I think the assumption is that we were like a piece of shit dead.
[00:06:59]  And now all of a sudden we want the kids when they're gone.
[00:07:01]  I think it's rare that we assume a guy's the best dad in the world and then the kids are being taken away.
[00:07:06]  Yeah, I do think though you're going to look at it differently if the if the wife is a Kardashian.
[00:07:12]  Not that you're not there for your kids, but like what you are exposing your children to, like the level of attention, the level of exposure you give them on purpose, the level of exposure you monetize.
[00:07:21]  To me, that shit is gross to do to a baby.
[00:07:24]  Like y'all got enough money.
[00:07:25]  She don't need to be on TikTok.
[00:07:26]  I'm completely with Yay on that.
[00:07:28]  What do you possibly have to gain?
[00:07:29]  She can get followers.
[00:07:30]  Kylie, I've heard talks about being anxious and fucking depressed and all these other things.
[00:07:35]  Sure, she got the bag, but y'all got enough money for generations on end.
[00:07:38]  You could actually focus on raising a healthy, happy kid at this point.
[00:07:41]  So if I'm Kanye, I would be like, yo, take her off TikTok.
[00:07:44]  What the fuck is wrong with you?
[00:07:45]  Yeah.
[00:07:45]  You crazy?
[00:07:46]  And apparently she was on TikTok saying like she fell in love with like an emo girl or something.
[00:07:50]  I think it's like what Kanye alleged.
[00:07:52]  Is that true?
[00:07:52]  It was singing the lyrics to such a shit.
[00:07:55]  I hate when you just laugh at us, dog.
[00:07:57]  That's what Kanye is.
[00:07:57]  Say nothing, you just laugh.
[00:07:58]  Very condescending.
[00:07:59]  What he said in the video, he was like, I don't want her talking about falling in love with the emo girl.
[00:08:02]  I didn't see North's actual TikTok.
[00:08:04]  Yeah, we're not watching that shifty, you creep.
[00:08:06]  Yeah, I just love that earlier in the week, though, the news story was her getting blasted for making that comment about the best advice for women is to get up and work your ass off.
[00:08:15]  Yeah, so she probably loves all this Kanye stuff right now because everyone's forgetting about being trashed earlier.
[00:08:21]  Kim just can't talk.
[00:08:22]  I think that's what happens.
[00:08:23]  Like, no matter what she says, people hate her.
[00:08:26]  If she takes pictures where she looks hot, that's awesome.
[00:08:28]  Right?
[00:08:28]  Like, and then literally, that's it.
[00:08:31]  Like, outside of like looking really good in pictures or showing up at events or taking fun videos with a kid, if she offers any advice at all, it's like, you suck dick to be here.
[00:08:42]  It's her version of shut up and dribble.
[00:08:44]  Literally, shut up and drool.
[00:08:46]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:08:47]  Shut up and dribble.
[00:08:49]  So it's like, that's kind of crazy, but it is true.
[00:08:52]  It's like, we don't want any advice and we, I don't care, because she's right.
[00:08:56]  What she's saying is right.
[00:08:57]  It's just the wrong messenger.
[00:08:58]  Do you do that?
[00:08:58]  It was the wrong source.
[00:08:59]  What do you mean?
[00:09:00]  Like that, if she gives any advice about like business, working, entrepreneurship, people are like, yo, shut up.
[00:09:06]  Do I think it's fair?
[00:09:07]  Yeah, that people like shit on her for like work ethic and they say, oh, you don't know anything about work.
[00:09:12]  You got famous from your family and for sucking dick, blah, blah, blah.
[00:09:14]  That's work, dog.
[00:09:15]  You seen Ray J's dick?
[00:09:16]  Yeah, that's not work.
[00:09:18]  Yeah.
[00:09:19]  She had to get her ass up literally.
[00:09:21]  She hit that big old thing.
[00:09:23]  Yeah.
[00:09:24]  Yeah, I don't know.
[00:09:25]  Do I think it's fair?
[00:09:26]  Like, is the criticism warranted?
[00:09:28]  I don't know.
[00:09:28]  I feel like.
[00:09:29]  No, I don't think the criticism is warranted because she's right.
[00:09:31]  I mean, if you ask anybody, I mean, Charlamagne was even showing this video of Oprah saying the exact same thing.
[00:09:36]  So it's like, yeah, she's saying the thing that's right, but we might not want to hear it from that person.
[00:09:41]  And you would like a little degree of self-awareness from her.
[00:09:44]  Like, all right, look, I had X, Y, and Z, but I still have to do, you know, A, B, and C.
[00:09:48]  I still have to get up and do these things just because I got a little head start.
[00:09:51]  No, so no matter what situation you're in, you're going to have to get up and work.
[00:09:54]  There's much better ways to say it.
[00:09:56]  If you're Oprah and we know you came from like, I'm pretty sure it was an abusive household.
[00:10:00]  Like Oprah came from nothing.
[00:10:02]  So she doesn't have to give context because you know that context.
[00:10:04]  Yeah.
[00:10:05]  So if she says get up and work, you're like, oh, yeah, she did it.
[00:10:07]  Kim, you know the context.
[00:10:09]  So you're like, okay, but you're acting like you grew up like Oprah.
[00:10:12]  You do not grow up like Oprah.
[00:10:13]  Someone asks a question.
[00:10:14]  Yeah, but I wonder if it's just like we don't like self-help in general because it forces us to look in the mirror and see what we're not doing.
[00:10:20]  Absolutely.
[00:10:20]  So it's like, if you are going to give us some self-help shit, like be missing a leg, like have something wrong, be blind and you achieve something.
[00:10:28]  And that dude with no arms tells people to work.
[00:10:29]  It's like, hell yeah.
[00:10:30]  Okay, he's out here working.
[00:10:31]  Like those are motivational videos because you can't say shit.
[00:10:34]  Like there's always a video of some dude in like a war-torn country.
[00:10:37]  He is missing limbs and he found a way to like brush his teeth with his feet.
[00:10:40]  And you're just like, okay, if he's not complaining, I shouldn't complain.
[00:10:43]  And I think they call it like a, they call it like a crippled porn or something like that.
[00:10:47]  It's not.
[00:10:48]  I don't think that's what they call it.
[00:10:50]  It's inspiration porn.
[00:10:51]  Inspiration porn.
[00:10:52]  Cripple porn is way better.
[00:10:54]  Yeah.
[00:10:56]  Inspiration porn is mad boring.
[00:10:57]  Inspiration porn.
[00:10:58]  Yeah.
[00:11:00]  But yeah, I'm just like, it is interesting.
[00:11:03]  Like maybe she needs to recognize that.
[00:11:05]  Actually, no, she doesn't because it continues to make news and she's making money off of making news.
[00:11:10]  So keep on saying the thing.
[00:11:11]  I mean, remember she was trying to get like, she was trying to be a lawyer so she could get like black dudes out of prison.
[00:11:15]  Yeah.
[00:11:16]  And like that was, that wasn't even celebrated.
[00:11:20]  It was like, all right.
[00:11:22]  Fine.
[00:11:23]  It was celebrated.
[00:11:24]  Kind of.
[00:11:25]  Like, I mean, in the black community, we're like, all right, you're finally doing something.
[00:11:29]  Yeah, but it was.
[00:11:31]  But it was only fine.
[00:11:33]  All right.
[00:11:35]  It wasn't like, oh my God, this is the best thing ever.
[00:11:38]  But if people don't like you, you can't expect them to go 180 and be like, oh, that's dope.
[00:11:42]  You can only bring them to the middle at first.
[00:11:44]  And then if you keep doing that shit, they're going to completely come around and be like, yo, you know what?
[00:11:47]  Yeah.
[00:11:48]  She fucking, yo, she killed it.
[00:11:50]  We shit on her early on, but people will give you that.
[00:11:52]  You just can't get that right away.
[00:11:54]  And I guess I wonder if she can be upset about that because if you've made your money from like being beautiful and kind of saying dumb shit in the show, right?
[00:12:04]  It's not like she's philosophizing on the show and like coming up with this great life advice.
[00:12:08]  It's like, hi, I'm going to be hot and I'm going to say kind of dumb things with me and my sisters and joke around.
[00:12:14]  And all of a sudden you start to give advice.
[00:12:16]  It's like, hold up.
[00:12:17]  You branded yourself as the hot dumb girl.
[00:12:21]  And now you kind of who made money just being hot and dumb on TV for a decade.
[00:12:26]  And now you're going to give life advice.
[00:12:28]  It's like, pump the brakes a little bit short.
[00:12:31]  Like this is your design.
[00:12:33]  You have 100% control of the branding.
[00:12:35]  You decided to leave it in.
[00:12:37]  Yeah.
[00:12:37]  When you said that thing about the jacuzzi.
[00:12:40]  Yeah.
[00:12:40]  Right?
[00:12:40]  Like, you decide to leave all these things in the edit.
[00:12:43]  You are curating this character.
[00:12:44]  People responding to that character is not their fault.
[00:12:48]  It's your fault.
[00:12:49]  You're going off brand now.
[00:12:51]  Say dumb shit.
[00:12:52]  That's on brand.
[00:12:53]  We accept that now.
[00:12:54]  We, we, all right, we know you for that.
[00:12:56]  Now when you start trying to be uh wise, it's like, yo, this is not the brand you've established.
[00:13:01]  Yeah.
[00:13:01]  This is like fucking Levi selling computers or something.
[00:13:04]  It's like, I'm not, no, I'm not doing this with you.
[00:13:06]  You're not the guys to do this.
[00:13:08]  Yeah.
[00:13:09]  So what is she?
[00:13:10]  Even Trump didn't do that when he ran for president.
[00:13:11]  Was he in like similar background?
[00:13:12]  Like born into wealth, has his businesses, like got famous through like reality TV, and then ran for president and then all of a sudden switch up and be like, oh, you got to treat people with respect.
[00:13:21]  He just kept on being the same dude.
[00:13:23]  Yeah.
[00:13:23]  And then that's what people responded to.
[00:13:25]  At least there's consistency.
[00:13:27]  You might not like it or agree with it, but like.
[00:13:28]  Oh, you're saying he didn't try to be like a virtuous, good guy.
[00:13:31]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:13:32]  Yeah.
[00:13:32]  If anything, he was like, I'm not a politician.
[00:13:34]  I'm not one of these phonies.
[00:13:36]  I'm a celebrity.
[00:13:36]  Like, I'm a reality TV show guy.
[00:13:38]  Kim should say, look hot.

=== Weekend Seder Chaos (03:04) ===

[00:13:40]  And if you don't, carve your face until you do.
[00:13:43]  And you will make tons of money because of it.
[00:13:45]  Yes.
[00:13:46]  Yeah.
[00:13:46]  I mean, isn't that crazy?
[00:13:48]  It's that simple.
[00:13:49]  Yeah.
[00:13:49]  Dude, I posted a picture on Instagram of me shirtless.
[00:13:54]  Yeah.
[00:13:55]  That was a great pick.
[00:13:56]  It's a phenomenal pick.
[00:13:57]  I'm eating a Cancake.
[00:13:58]  It was some fun.
[00:13:59]  You know, it was some fun content.
[00:14:01]  I just want to point out something.
[00:14:02]  Here, I'm going to pull it up right here.
[00:14:04]  Half a million people, over half a million people are reached, right?
[00:14:12]  You know where I'm going with this.
[00:14:13]  Infamous tour update.
[00:14:16]  Important news.
[00:14:16]  We added a second show in New York City, Radio Citic Music Hall.
[00:14:20]  Okay.
[00:14:21]  Very excited about this.
[00:14:22]  It is a 10 p.m. start time.
[00:14:25]  So all you Jews that had your fucking Seder that you had to go to because it's the second day of Passover, how many fucking days do we need a Passover?
[00:14:33]  Okay.
[00:14:34]  This, you have a nice tight seder, small tight seder.
[00:14:38]  You're going to be with your family the whole fucking time anyway.
[00:14:40]  You're going to get tired of them.
[00:14:41]  You shut it down.
[00:14:42]  You have an hour seder.
[00:14:44]  You leave and we'll see you at that 10 p.m. show.
[00:14:46]  Okay.
[00:14:47]  And for everybody who didn't want to go to a show with tons of Jews, we have the first show.
[00:14:53]  Okay.
[00:14:53]  There's really no tickets left for that one, but maybe you already gobbled all those tickets up.
[00:14:57]  Okay.
[00:14:58]  So if you want super Jewy show, you come to the second one.
[00:15:01]  And you want the really fun show, you go to the first one.
[00:15:05]  No.
[00:15:06]  Yeah.
[00:15:07]  So second show up now.
[00:15:09]  Go get those tickets as soon as you can because they will be gone.
[00:15:13]  Also, this weekend, we're coming to Cleveland or no, next weekend, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Montreal after that.
[00:15:20]  Very excited.
[00:15:22]  Very excited.
[00:15:22]  Vancouver, we're closing out the show.
[00:15:24]  AC, I think, sold out.
[00:15:26]  Thank you guys so much.
[00:15:27]  I think we've got like eight or nine total shows left for the infamous tour, never being performed again.
[00:15:33]  So if you want to check out the infamous tour, make sure you come to one of those dates.
[00:15:37]  And Akash, what you got?
[00:15:39]  First of all, let me just say, Andrew's very excited to be coming to Cleveland.
[00:15:42]  He can't wait.
[00:15:43]  Next weekend, no, this weekend, guys, I'm in San Antonio at LOL Comedy Club the 18th through the 20th, Friday through Sunday.
[00:15:50]  Bring that ass through the week after April 1st and 2nd, Toledo, Ohio.
[00:15:55]  I'm coming to Ohio.
[00:15:58]  Funnybone.
[00:16:00]  Come, please, for the love of God, so I don't kill myself.
[00:16:02]  I'm the only weekend I ever did in my life was Toledo, Ohio.
[00:16:07]  I did a Sunday show at Toledo, home.
[00:16:09]  I have a feeling that Sunday show is where I kill myself.
[00:16:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:13]  I have not done a Sunday show since.
[00:16:15]  Yo, I just told my age, I'm not doing any more Sunday shows.
[00:16:20]  I swear to God, I looked at this and I said, why am I doing a Sunday in Toledo?
[00:16:23]  This is the last Sunday show I ever do.
[00:16:25]  So if you guys want to come to the last Sunday show I ever do in my life, Toledo, Ohio, Funnybone.
[00:16:30]  Also April 8th and 9th, Tampa Improv.
[00:16:32]  That's a nice city.
[00:16:33]  We'll have fun there.
[00:16:34]  And April 22nd and 23rd, Toronto.
[00:16:36]  Hurry up.
[00:16:37]  Let's sell that bitch out so we can add another show.
[00:16:39]  Royal Theater.
[00:16:40]  Tickets, more dates on my website at akashsing.com.
[00:16:44]  Now let's get back to the show.

=== Hard Work Opportunity (15:48) ===

[00:16:45]  All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because I got to stop you guys from balding.
[00:16:48]  If you haven't paid attention to me before, you're going to pay attention now.
[00:16:50]  Look at this beautiful head of hair I got on me right now.
[00:16:54]  This head of hair is brought to you by Keeps.
[00:16:56]  This should be gone.
[00:16:57]  It should be gone.
[00:16:58]  Over a decade ago, I noticed a little balding and I was like, I got to do something about this.
[00:17:03]  I started Googling.
[00:17:05]  I'm telling you, this Keeps might be the reason I'm married to this day.
[00:17:10]  It really might.
[00:17:11]  I might be successful enough to be bald, but some of y'all are not.
[00:17:14]  So you need to keep your fucking hair and stop playing around with the rest of your life.
[00:17:18]  Okay?
[00:17:19]  Keeps is the difference maker.
[00:17:22]  You can keep your hair.
[00:17:23]  It is a choice now.
[00:17:24]  Don't be one of these stubborn motherfuckers that just goes bald when you don't have to.
[00:17:28]  Okay?
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[00:18:03]  That's KEEPS.com slash flagrant to get your first month for free.
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[00:18:11]  Now let's get back to the show.
[00:18:12]  Over half a million people.
[00:18:14]  Over half a million people.
[00:18:19]  I just took my clothes off and half a minute and posted online and I'm not beautifully carved into like the perfect.
[00:18:26]  Don't say that, bro.
[00:18:27]  Don't say that.
[00:18:27]  Physical specimen.
[00:18:28]  Bro, you got a nice little body.
[00:18:29]  No, don't get this point.
[00:18:32]  That's an important point he's making.
[00:18:33]  Don't cut it off with jokes.
[00:18:34]  Thank you.
[00:18:35]  I noticed I like that shit.
[00:18:36]  Good for me.
[00:18:37]  So like what I'm trying to say is I just got naked and the amount of engagement that I got was unbelievable and I don't even have the perfectly desired body for Instagram.
[00:18:47]  I have majority male followers and it's just so salacious that I'm naked that over half a million people like, engaged, interacted with this post.
[00:18:57]  Yeah.
[00:18:57]  Don't ever tell me about hard work ever again.
[00:19:01]  Don't ever fucking mention hard work ever again.
[00:19:04]  There is a Down syndrome model for Victoria's Secret.
[00:19:07]  The job is so easy.
[00:19:09]  Sexy.
[00:19:10]  The job is so easy.
[00:19:12]  Sexy.
[00:19:13]  Whatever, you know what I'm saying?
[00:19:15]  That you literally don't need what I, how do I not be.
[00:19:18]  You could be retarded.
[00:19:21]  Cousin, cousin.
[00:19:22]  Cousin.
[00:19:24]  You could be family.
[00:19:25]  Exactly.
[00:19:25]  Stop it with the hard work.
[00:19:28]  Stop it with the hard work.
[00:19:29]  Was this as much work as one of your stand-up clips that you sit there and fuck edit 15 years being able to think of these things of the moment, come up with these ideas, be witty, interact with an audience, know how to push the limit.
[00:19:41]  Like my whole craft.
[00:19:44]  Naked on a bed with cake over my dick.
[00:19:48]  Hard work.
[00:19:49]  Get to work, guys.
[00:19:51]  Hey, you want to be successful?
[00:19:53]  Work your ass off out there.
[00:19:55]  Right?
[00:19:56]  I get the frustration.
[00:19:58]  I get the frustration.
[00:19:59]  Oh, my God.
[00:20:00]  Right?
[00:20:01]  What a dumb bitch.
[00:20:03]  Yeah.
[00:20:03]  Like, put it into perspective.
[00:20:06]  People don't work hard enough because of you.
[00:20:10]  Because of you.
[00:20:12]  They don't work hard.
[00:20:13]  They see someone do nothing and become a billionaire.
[00:20:16]  They see someone just fatten their lips, fatten their ass, fatten their tits, and they become a billionaire.
[00:20:21]  That's why they don't work hard.
[00:20:22]  Oh, my God.
[00:20:23]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:20:24]  Lance Armstrong had us on a bike.
[00:20:27]  With one nut.
[00:20:28]  Yeah, everybody with cancer bought a bike that year because of Lance Armstrong.
[00:20:33]  You could peddle away your fucking leukemia.
[00:20:36]  How amazing would that be?
[00:20:37]  And we got mad at him for taking steroids with cancer.
[00:20:41]  With cancer.
[00:20:42]  He's risking his life even more for this.
[00:20:45]  And we're mad at him.
[00:20:46]  Because you didn't work hard the honest way.
[00:20:48]  You did?
[00:20:49]  Be honest?
[00:20:51]  Nothing about her life has been honest.
[00:20:52]  The rock is in the gym every night.
[00:20:54]  Showing me his palms.
[00:20:56]  I have a palm check with him every week.
[00:20:58]  If I see those fucking scabs, I know he's been in the gym.
[00:21:01]  Let me see a fucking palm check, Kim.
[00:21:04]  Yeah.
[00:21:07]  Are they saliva filled?
[00:21:11]  Let me see a palm.
[00:21:13]  No, no, of course she's going to work hard.
[00:21:15]  Of course, she's going to, of course, she's going to hustle.
[00:21:19]  But it's a different type of work hard and hustle.
[00:21:22]  It's a different level of it.
[00:21:24]  Even where we are in the game right now, we're working fucking hard, 16-hour days, all this, et cetera.
[00:21:30]  But I still get to show up to the venue and there's coconut water.
[00:21:33]  Because I put on the rider, I want coconut water.
[00:21:37]  Right?
[00:21:38]  Like that, it's a different level.
[00:21:39]  Yeah, we're working our ass off.
[00:21:40]  It's different than somebody like picking up logs.
[00:21:43]  Yeah, people are doing construction and they work hard.
[00:21:45]  Hard.
[00:21:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:47]  They really work hard.
[00:21:48]  And some of them don't sitting around all fucking day.
[00:21:50]  Union.
[00:21:51]  Union.
[00:21:51]  Yeah.
[00:21:52]  That's some Yankee shit.
[00:21:53]  Yeah, that's some real shit.
[00:21:54]  We think all construction workers work hard.
[00:21:55]  What about the guy who just stands by the shit that says, don't cross?
[00:21:58]  The mafia friend.
[00:21:59]  Yeah, that ain't that hard work.
[00:22:00]  Not everyone.
[00:22:01]  The Mexican motherfuckers sat on the books.
[00:22:04]  Union.
[00:22:05]  Oh, that shit is hard work.
[00:22:07]  They need lozenges and shit.
[00:22:09]  They need water, stay hydrated.
[00:22:11]  You know what I mean?
[00:22:12]  The weather changes.
[00:22:14]  You were prepared for overcoat, and all of a sudden it's fucking sundresses.
[00:22:17]  You got to switch your whole shit up.
[00:22:19]  Yeah, it's a hard work.
[00:22:20]  Yeah, it's hard work for them.
[00:22:21]  I guess everybody works hard.
[00:22:24]  Do you know?
[00:22:25]  Yeah.
[00:22:25]  What the hell just happened to your point?
[00:22:27]  I don't know, bro.
[00:22:28]  You had a great point about Kim not working hard and then he made it everybody works hard.
[00:22:32]  Yeah, I guess what the hell happened?
[00:22:34]  He had all his momentum.
[00:22:36]  Yeah, well, I was being sarcastic with the construction worker.
[00:22:38]  Pay attention.
[00:22:40]  This fucking idiot tapped out of our discussion about construction workers now.
[00:22:47]  What a shitty delivery.
[00:22:48]  I guess not.
[00:22:49]  I guess everybody.
[00:22:49]  I guess everybody works hard.
[00:22:51]  Stop being so sincere.
[00:22:53]  We were.
[00:22:53]  We're being explicit, Alex.
[00:22:55]  Excuse me a second.
[00:22:56]  I don't get it.
[00:22:56]  I know, because you weren't listening.
[00:22:58]  Oh, I was listening.
[00:22:59]  Okay.
[00:23:00]  I was waiting for more Kardashian hate.
[00:23:02]  Point is, point is, is you created this idea that you could be famous for nothing.
[00:23:07]  Not just you.
[00:23:08]  There are plenty of people before her that did it.
[00:23:09]  There are plenty of people that do it just right now.
[00:23:11]  100%.
[00:23:12]  But we don't exactly live in the work hard, you become famous era of American society.
[00:23:18]  And who's to blame for that?
[00:23:21]  I don't know.
[00:23:22]  I'm not going to put it all on the Kardashians.
[00:23:24]  You could put it on social media and the fact that it looks so easy to become a millionaire, billionaire, whatever.
[00:23:28]  But they definitely play a part in it.
[00:23:30]  So some acknowledgement of that would be nice.
[00:23:33]  Right?
[00:23:33]  Yeah.
[00:23:34]  It's funny watching her turn into an old white man, isn't it?
[00:23:37]  Go, go.
[00:23:37]  Isn't it funny watching all these groups that think they're marginalized?
[00:23:40]  Not even just like women in general, white women, whatever.
[00:23:43]  As soon as someone gets successful, all of a sudden it's, man, all you got to do is work your fucking ass.
[00:23:47]  I know why that is.
[00:23:48]  I realize why that is.
[00:23:49]  There's a selfishness, but for real, there's a selfishness because none of us want to discredit our own success.
[00:23:55]  So if we say you have to work hard, it implies that we are here because of our hard work.
[00:24:03]  Right?
[00:24:04]  And that's the only thing that's separating you from success is hard work.
[00:24:08]  Yeah.
[00:24:08]  Right?
[00:24:08]  That's our advice.
[00:24:09]  Now, 100%, working hard is going to get you more success from where you are.
[00:24:13]  Right.
[00:24:13]  If you're working at like a 70% and you bump it to a 90, you're going to have more.
[00:24:18]  You're going to have more at your job.
[00:24:19]  You're going to have more at your business.
[00:24:20]  You're going to have more in your relationship.
[00:24:22]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:24:23]  Like, I'm sure, I mean, you can speak on this.
[00:24:26]  You put work into yourself to be better.
[00:24:30]  And it worked.
[00:24:31]  Yep.
[00:24:31]  100%.
[00:24:31]  It was amazing.
[00:24:32]  So it's like that is going to work, but you don't want to hear that from everybody.
[00:24:36]  Yeah.
[00:24:37]  But it's also, though, when you're successful, it's like, look, I do work hard, but also you gave me a lot of opportunities.
[00:24:42]  Can't both just exist?
[00:24:44]  Like, isn't there that saying that luck is when opportunity and hard work meet?
[00:24:48]  Yeah.
[00:24:49]  It's impossible to have context with it.
[00:24:51]  And fuck, I remember a fresh prince line that stuck with me forever.
[00:24:54]  Uncle Phil said to Will, people open doors for me.
[00:24:56]  It doesn't make you any less of a man to walk through them.
[00:24:59]  All of you are going to get that opportunity, or hopefully all of you.
[00:25:02]  And if you work hard, you will get there.
[00:25:04]  Yeah, that's what I said.
[00:25:05]  But we all get opportunity.
[00:25:06]  We all have luck.
[00:25:06]  You got help from Charlemagne.
[00:25:07]  I got all the help in the world from you.
[00:25:09]  That's what I say to comics all the time is like, if you work hard, you're going to get your shot.
[00:25:16]  Everybody gets a shot that's good.
[00:25:17]  And I mean that sincerely.
[00:25:19]  Everybody that's good gets a shot and you get good by working hard.
[00:25:22]  So everybody that works hard gets a shot.
[00:25:24]  What you do with that shot is up to you.
[00:25:26]  Right.
[00:25:27]  Right.
[00:25:27]  You know, I got a really cool opportunity.
[00:25:29]  Do a podcast with Charlemagne.
[00:25:30]  If I didn't work hard and I wasn't funny, I wouldn't have had that opportunity.
[00:25:33]  Busted your ass more than anybody I know.
[00:25:34]  Charlemagne got a great opportunity working with Wendy.
[00:25:36]  Wendy Williams.
[00:25:37]  Right.
[00:25:37]  And he busted his ass and he made something out of that opportunity.
[00:25:40]  So everybody's going to do it.
[00:25:40]  What are you going to do with that?
[00:25:42]  Yeah.
[00:25:42]  Right.
[00:25:42]  Kim got her shot in a different way.
[00:25:45]  But she milked that bitch.
[00:25:47]  Literally.
[00:25:48]  She did.
[00:25:49]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:25:50]  And then turned it into something else.
[00:25:51]  That's 100%.
[00:25:52]  It's just so easy to offer the work hard advice.
[00:25:55]  I get the resentment, especially coming from them.
[00:25:56]  Yes, 100%.
[00:25:57]  I just think it lacks a certain self-awareness when all you say is, get your ass up and work.
[00:26:02]  Nobody wants to work anymore.
[00:26:03]  It's like, I don't think you can say that without context.
[00:26:07]  Exactly.
[00:26:07]  A guy from nothing, even Jay-Z saying that, you'd be like, you know what?
[00:26:10]  Fair enough.
[00:26:11]  This guy went from fucking selling crack on a corner to a billionaire.
[00:26:14]  He also had a God-given talent.
[00:26:15]  That's the other part that people don't recognize.
[00:26:17]  Like, if LeBron James works hard, he's going to do a lot more than if I work hard trying to become the best player.
[00:26:22]  Yeah.
[00:26:23]  Like he just has this natural ability, which is kind of luck.
[00:26:25]  But he's also kind of not.
[00:26:27]  But he's also, if you, I believe if you put that guy in a middle-class family, he's still at least worth $100 million because he's just a fucking brilliant guy.
[00:26:34]  You know what I mean?
[00:26:35]  But like what gives you brilliance?
[00:26:36]  That's part of your upbringing, but it's also like your just natural IQ that you're born with.
[00:26:39]  Also, your skill being valued by the public.
[00:26:42]  That is big.
[00:26:43]  You can be the best rapper in the world at a time where like nobody's really listening to what's up.
[00:26:46]  Like there's probably a like a ska musician right now that's the best ska musician ever.
[00:26:51]  But because ska's not having like a moment right now, then he's not going to be as you know, financially successful.
[00:26:56]  Every juggler in the world is making 60k or something.
[00:26:59]  Kim K was no.
[00:27:02]  But yeah, 100%.
[00:27:03]  So it's like hoping that your God-given talent meets a society that values it.
[00:27:10]  Yeah.
[00:27:10]  And you working your ass off in it.
[00:27:12]  Yes, there's a bunch of things that circulate around success.
[00:27:18]  Yeah.
[00:27:18]  Luck being one of them and talent being another.
[00:27:21]  But I think we can all agree that working hard in no matter what it is is going to give you an advantage, at least over those that don't work as hard.
[00:27:28]  No matter what the field.
[00:27:29]  So it's the right thing.
[00:27:30]  It's the advice we would give anybody.
[00:27:31]  It'll move you from your starting block.
[00:27:33]  100%.
[00:27:33]  But think how much more eloquently that was said than get your ass up and do the fucking work.
[00:27:37]  Yo, what if she said, what if she literally came up there and she's like, listen, we all know how I got here.
[00:27:43]  Like, what if she started with that?
[00:27:44]  We all know what started.
[00:27:46]  We all know what gave me my shot.
[00:27:47]  But, right?
[00:27:48]  But bang, hard work is what kept me here for the next 15 years or whatever it was.
[00:27:54]  If she said that, that little disclaimer, every girl be out sucking dick, but low-key, maybe not the best thing.
[00:28:01]  The best thing to have in a black dude is in American history.
[00:28:04]  She just got them all out of prison.
[00:28:08]  Yeah.
[00:28:08]  All right.
[00:28:09]  Now, not to belabor the point, but just briefly, is there any part of you that's happy that Pete's finally firing back?
[00:28:15]  That he's like fighting back against Kanye.
[00:28:18]  I don't know.
[00:28:18]  Yeah, I don't know what he said that was so disrespectful.
[00:28:21]  Okay.
[00:28:22]  Yo, I honestly, yeah, I thought there was one line of disrespect.
[00:28:25]  I thought that was an anti-listen, you got three options when a guy asks, where are you?
[00:28:29]  You could ignore his question, which is rude.
[00:28:31]  You could lie to him, which is really fucked up.
[00:28:34]  Or you could just be honest.
[00:28:35]  He chose the most honorable option.
[00:28:37]  Honesty.
[00:28:38]  And in case you don't believe me, here's proof.
[00:28:40]  Just so you know, I'm an honest person.
[00:28:41]  He was just so specific.
[00:28:42]  You know what I mean?
[00:28:43]  Yeah, it's wild, but like.
[00:28:45]  It's not so specific.
[00:28:46]  It's wild, but at the same time, it's like, did you not think that he's smashing your wife?
[00:28:50]  Like, why you got to tell him, though?
[00:28:53]  This is a man of honor.
[00:28:55]  Like, we know what time it is.
[00:28:57]  Okay.
[00:28:57]  Maybe I'm biased because I've known this kid since he was 16, but I feel like he's an honorable kid.
[00:29:02]  He asked me a question.
[00:29:04]  I gave him the most honest answer I could give him.
[00:29:06]  Where are you right now?
[00:29:07]  He said right now.
[00:29:08]  He didn't say in life.
[00:29:10]  He said right now.
[00:29:11]  He wanted specifics.
[00:29:12]  So I tell you where I am right now.
[00:29:14]  I am in bed with your wife.
[00:29:16]  Like, in fairness, Kanye did kill him like two weeks ago in a music video.
[00:29:20]  So like his retaliation, I'm like, yeah, I get it.
[00:29:23]  Yeah.
[00:29:23]  What do you think?
[00:29:24]  At the same time, it's like, fucking music video.
[00:29:28]  Yeah, but still, someone killed you.
[00:29:29]  He's making videos too, probably.
[00:29:31]  That's not correct.
[00:29:33]  What's the difference here, guys?
[00:29:35]  What do you think, Al?
[00:29:36]  No, I think Kanye is just the biggest hypocrite.
[00:29:39]  It's like, how you he's been taking shots at Pete for the longest, and now he wants to play victim that Pete shoots back.
[00:29:45]  And so I think it's just really corny of Kanye to go about it that route.
[00:29:50]  Like, like, keep the same energy that you came with.
[00:29:52]  So now Pete's talking back, like, all right, let's take it there now.
[00:29:55]  Yeah, call him skeet.
[00:29:56]  He is doing exactly what you said he would do.
[00:29:59]  He's skeeting.
[00:30:00]  Yeah.
[00:30:01]  I mean, but yeah, he should, he should take it there.
[00:30:04]  Yeah.
[00:30:04]  Yeah.
[00:30:05]  I don't know.
[00:30:06]  Yeah, I guess he had one thing in the picture is one thing, but I thought Pete was pretty reasonable in the rest of the things he was saying.
[00:30:12]  Yeah.
[00:30:12]  Yeah.
[00:30:12]  The rest of it's like he was he was texting like he knew it was going to be on social media.
[00:30:17]  Yeah.
[00:30:17]  Oh, yeah.
[00:30:19]  Which you should.
[00:30:20]  I think he, I think he was texting like he realized midway through it was going to be on social media.
[00:30:24]  Like it switched up.
[00:30:25]  Yeah.
[00:30:25]  Like he posted it.
[00:30:27]  Pete posted it like through his buddy.
[00:30:28]  Yeah.
[00:30:29]  But it wasn't Kanye that posted.
[00:30:31]  Oh, that's why, yeah, because Pete's texts are blue.
[00:30:33]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:30:33]  It's Pete's like writing partner that posted on his Instagram.
[00:30:36]  Oh, shout out to Dave.
[00:30:37]  Yeah, I think it's him.
[00:30:38]  I'm not sure exactly.
[00:30:39]  But he basically acts as like an intermediary between what Pete wants to put out.
[00:30:42]  And Pete knew that it was going to get posted.
[00:30:44]  And all his texts are blue.
[00:30:45]  And so he was like very specific with what he said.
[00:30:48]  And in fairness, Kanye actually comes off decent in it too.
[00:30:51]  Like, I don't think he comes out crazy.
[00:30:53]  He's like, yeah, meet me here, blah, blah, blah.
[00:30:55]  Like for Kanye, he didn't know it was going to be public, but yet he sounded diplomatic too.
[00:31:00]  So Pete put it out.
[00:31:01]  Yeah.
[00:31:01]  Yeah.
[00:31:03]  That's also important to know.
[00:31:05]  Because it's like, of course, you're going to put out, you deserve to slap back because you haven't said anything.
[00:31:11]  So you have every right to clap back.
[00:31:13]  The posting, I'm with your wife and posting in bed, completely understandable, reasonable, justified.
[00:31:22]  And then you make it look nice with all the, I go through mental health too, and let's help you out, blah, blah, blah.
[00:31:28]  But it still is marketing, right?
[00:31:31]  It's not like, I really want to help.
[00:31:34]  Is it possible?
[00:31:35]  Have you ever said some crazy shit and then pulled off of it?
[00:31:37]  Cause you're like, I feel bad.
[00:31:38]  Yeah.
[00:31:39]  So maybe that's just what it is.
[00:31:42]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:44]  What people are not listening to that just got cut out of the episode, but uh, but yeah, I don't know.
[00:31:53]  I think he said the right thing, and I think it's good uh, PR.
[00:31:57]  Yeah, oh, yeah, it's good PR for PR for sure.
[00:32:00]  I didn't know it came from him, yeah.
[00:32:01]  I thought Kanye leaked it, but that's right.
[00:32:03]  If it's the Texas blue, then it's on his side, yeah.
[00:32:07]  Hmm, but Janye also doesn't sound crazy, so part of me is like, Do they both know this is gonna go out?
[00:32:12]  Like, at what point Kanye sounds like he wants you know, Pete to just show up to his event to make a whole thing out of it.
[00:32:18]  Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
[00:32:19]  It doesn't sound crazy or not crazy, it sounds like he just wants to continue to buzz.
[00:32:22]  Like, what would be better than him showing up to Sunday service and them hashing it out there?
[00:32:26]  Oh, I figured he just wants him to show up so he can fight him, but he just doesn't want to do any work to go out of his way to have to fight.

=== Perfect Story PR (08:41) ===

[00:32:34]  He ain't fighting him, bro.
[00:32:35]  He leaked where he was staying.
[00:32:36]  I honestly think he would.
[00:32:38]  Where what?
[00:32:38]  In the text, PHH.
[00:32:42]  Yeah, Pete.
[00:32:42]  Pete, that's the staying.
[00:32:44]  The part you respect the most after in bed with your wife is, yo, here's where I'm staying.
[00:32:49]  Come see me, man-to-man.
[00:32:50]  Beverly Hills Hotel.
[00:32:51]  He said, Like, I'm here.
[00:32:52]  Yeah.
[00:32:53]  Come through.
[00:32:53]  And then Kanye's like, come to Sunday service.
[00:32:55]  He's like, we don't need all those people.
[00:32:56]  Which makes him look like he's down.
[00:32:58]  He's ready to, he's ready to go.
[00:33:00]  Even if he's not, leaking those texts makes you look like you are.
[00:33:03]  And then all the disrespect that you've received makes it seem like you're down to fight or whatever.
[00:33:08]  So you look at him a little bit more like, oh, shit.
[00:33:10]  Hmm.
[00:33:15]  I don't know.
[00:33:17]  I could care less.
[00:33:18]  There's, there's a, after watching half of the Kanye dock, I don't know if Kanye is any different now than he used to be.
[00:33:25]  You think so?
[00:33:27]  Honestly, I don't know.
[00:33:28]  I think this is just Kanye doing Kanye.
[00:33:30]  Really?
[00:33:31]  Yeah.
[00:33:32]  I think he's very different than he was.
[00:33:33]  Yeah.
[00:33:34]  Keep in mind, this is the Kanye.
[00:33:38]  His mom hasn't died yet.
[00:33:40]  What?
[00:33:40]  Are you done with episode two?
[00:33:41]  No, I think I finished episode two.
[00:33:43]  I'm into three a little bit when he was calling Kudi Chique.
[00:33:46]  Yeah.
[00:33:47]  In his drunk.
[00:33:48]  Yeah, in his drunk.
[00:33:49]  Wild.
[00:33:51]  But like, yeah, I don't know.
[00:33:52]  It just seems like.
[00:33:53]  It seems like you see a flip as soon as he gets success.
[00:33:56]  Yeah.
[00:33:57]  Like there was a moment.
[00:33:58]  I'm saying from then to now, I don't see much difference.
[00:34:00]  From that midway through episode three, yeah.
[00:34:02]  End of episode two, and I haven't, I haven't done three yet because it was weird.
[00:34:05]  End of episode two, you see that moment where like he's successful and then you just, it seems like, oh, he's he's now.
[00:34:11]  Have you finished three yet?
[00:34:13]  No.
[00:34:13]  No.
[00:34:15]  What?
[00:34:15]  No, right?
[00:34:16]  Not finished.
[00:34:17]  Remember, I said that shit was mid and y'all jumped all over me and y'all haven't even finished the fucking thing.
[00:34:21]  That y'all was stroking like crazy.
[00:34:23]  Y'all haven't even finished the thing.
[00:34:24]  I finished all three.
[00:34:25]  We're trying to savor it.
[00:34:28]  Y'all were killing me.
[00:34:29]  Because I didn't finish it.
[00:34:30]  I thought it was mid.
[00:34:31]  You thought it was some crazy hot take.
[00:34:34]  Y'all were killing me.
[00:34:35]  I haven't.
[00:34:35]  You know what I mean?
[00:34:36]  I've been working.
[00:34:37]  Yeah.
[00:34:38]  We're busy.
[00:34:40]  We're busy.
[00:34:41]  It's amazing.
[00:34:42]  I'm gay.
[00:34:42]  Get your ass up and do the work.
[00:34:45]  Nobody wants to fucking work hard anymore.
[00:34:47]  No problem.
[00:34:48]  Okay.
[00:34:49]  Can we talk about Jusie?
[00:34:51]  Yeah.
[00:34:52]  Let's talk about something interesting.
[00:34:54]  That was disappointing, man.
[00:34:56]  Who, Jussie?
[00:34:57]  Yeah, man.
[00:34:58]  Just telling us you're not suicidal like that.
[00:35:00]  Like, come on, bruh.
[00:35:01]  Kill yourself, please.
[00:35:02]  Yes, I had enough.
[00:35:05]  You done?
[00:35:05]  I had enough.
[00:35:08]  He faked the hate crime.
[00:35:09]  He didn't kill someone.
[00:35:10]  I wish he could have really committed suicide.
[00:35:12]  How about that?
[00:35:14]  I had enough of this guy.
[00:35:15]  I mean, that would be kind of fire.
[00:35:17]  Yeah, right?
[00:35:18]  Yeah.
[00:35:18]  Do something.
[00:35:19]  I mean, it would be kind of fun.
[00:35:21]  I'm not suicidal.
[00:35:22]  Like, the government's going to take you out.
[00:35:23]  Yeah.
[00:35:24]  Are you fucking kidding me, bro?
[00:35:25]  Yeah.
[00:35:26]  You're a threat to nothing.
[00:35:27]  He could be as big as Epstein.
[00:35:29]  Maybe.
[00:35:31]  In some abstract way.
[00:35:32]  I'm sure you could connect a few dots.
[00:35:34]  He's confident.
[00:35:35]  He's a confident guy, bro.
[00:35:36]  Yeah, he is.
[00:35:37]  He's a confident guy.
[00:35:38]  He is, bro.
[00:35:39]  He planned this whole fucking elaborate bullshit and really thought he was going to get away with it.
[00:35:44]  Yeah.
[00:35:44]  But he could have, though.
[00:35:45]  I feel like it'd be so easy to get away with.
[00:35:47]  Yeah, I feel like it was shadowily done.
[00:35:48]  It was so, like, how easy it is to get away with a hate crime.
[00:35:51]  Probably pretty easy.
[00:35:52]  Yeah.
[00:35:53]  Like, just, I mean, the way that he designed it was horrible.
[00:35:56]  Yeah, just actually get beat up.
[00:35:57]  It was during a winter vortex in Chicago.
[00:36:00]  Yeah.
[00:36:01]  Like, he, like, he said, it was like MAGA guys that came up to him.
[00:36:04]  And then the two guys that he actually paid to do it, he like paid them with a personal check.
[00:36:07]  Yeah.
[00:36:08]  Like, he like left a paper trail.
[00:36:10]  Like, it was just horrendous.
[00:36:11]  Yeah.
[00:36:11]  I think he himself, or no, they went to the hardware store to go get it.
[00:36:14]  Yeah.
[00:36:14]  To go get this stuff.
[00:36:15]  And also the bleach thing.
[00:36:16]  Like, everything, like, clearly, he hasn't studied hate crime enough.
[00:36:20]  Because, like, white people aren't trying to make black people white.
[00:36:23]  Yeah.
[00:36:24]  Like, the bleach thing doesn't make sense.
[00:36:25]  Like, that's not like racist white people's dream.
[00:36:27]  They're not like seeing black people and they're like, how can we make them white?
[00:36:31]  Right?
[00:36:32]  Right?
[00:36:32]  Like, so you're not also like just pouring bleach that you have to worry about it getting on you.
[00:36:35]  And it's just like, it's just messy.
[00:36:37]  It's like super messy, right?
[00:36:39]  Like everything about it, poorly designed.
[00:36:42]  The fact that when the cops come, like, he still has the noose on, like, you wouldn't take that off first.
[00:36:46]  Like, you get home from a long day at work.
[00:36:49]  Immediately, you loosen the tie, right?
[00:36:52]  I watched my dad do it every single day, working hard every single day, come back, loosen the tie, maybe take the tie off.
[00:36:57]  You're at a wedding, first thing, ties loosened, right?
[00:37:00]  A fraternity party, the tie's on for some event, and immediately it's around your head or something like that.
[00:37:05]  But he's still got the fucking tie on.
[00:37:06]  He's still in the bleach.
[00:37:08]  Like, everything about it was so poorly planned.
[00:37:10]  And the guy's been in Hollywood.
[00:37:12]  Like, you that's what I assume, though.
[00:37:13]  I think he's a good actor, and I think the best actors think their whole life's a movie.
[00:37:17]  Oh, I'm not a good person.
[00:37:18]  Dude, I'm with you on this.
[00:37:19]  I think he still is in it.
[00:37:22]  Like, he's in his soap opera.
[00:37:24]  No, that's what I, yeah, that's what I mean.
[00:37:26]  Like, I think that what makes him a good actor is the fact that he believes that he's the main character in life.
[00:37:30]  Nobody yelled cut.
[00:37:31]  I bet if you just yell cut, I bet if Lee Daniels comes in and just goes, Con, immediately goes, Okay, and then okay, okay, that was great, uh, Judge.
[00:37:40]  You just hypnotize.
[00:37:41]  You really, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:37:42]  You just have to say the word don't be out.
[00:37:43]  Anchorman, yeah, yeah, he is, and then you say action, and he's just, I'm ready to go.
[00:37:48]  I did not do this.
[00:37:48]  I am respect you, I respect you, Judge, but I'm not suicidal.
[00:37:54]  What does that mean?
[00:37:56]  What does that even mean?
[00:37:57]  I love it.
[00:37:58]  I respect you, I respect your decision, but I'm not suicidal.
[00:38:02]  I'm rooting for him.
[00:38:03]  Yep.
[00:38:04]  All of a sudden, I'm starting to fucking root for him.
[00:38:06]  Yes.
[00:38:06]  And I'm like, what lies do we tell ourselves?
[00:38:08]  Kim thinks she works hard and she believes it.
[00:38:12]  Why can't he believe he didn't do that?
[00:38:14]  How many things do we just believe?
[00:38:15]  Oh, yeah.
[00:38:16]  You told me that.
[00:38:16]  That's actually a very helpful trick.
[00:38:17]  I started doing that.
[00:38:18]  What's that?
[00:38:18]  You said just tell yourself what happened in the past and then create a new reality.
[00:38:22]  And then that's it.
[00:38:23]  Yep.
[00:38:23]  That works.
[00:38:24]  Uh-huh.
[00:38:24]  100%.
[00:38:25]  That's just fire.
[00:38:26]  Dude, Mark thought I lied to him about a kid having cancer, dude.
[00:38:28]  This kid is fucking worked.
[00:38:30]  This is a perfect story.
[00:38:32]  It was a perfect story.
[00:38:33]  Dude.
[00:38:33]  All right.
[00:38:33]  So, basically, I was telling Schultz, I was having a really bad week.
[00:38:35]  I was telling some of you guys, you know, I was really going through it.
[00:38:37]  I was having a hard time.
[00:38:38]  I was like, man, I just don't know my purpose in life, blah, blah, blah.
[00:38:41]  And he was like, Mark, do you want to know what your purpose is?
[00:38:44]  I was just just today, I was in Soho with Dove.
[00:38:47]  I didn't say we want to know what your purpose is, but I said, let me tell you something that happened today.
[00:38:50]  Can you let him tell his story, and I'm at this coffee shop with Dove, and this little kid runs up to me.
[00:38:56]  He's 13 years old.
[00:38:57]  He says, Andrew, Andrew Schultz, I just beat cancer.
[00:39:00]  And I was listening to Flagrant 2 the whole time.
[00:39:02]  And I'm so grateful that you guys make me laugh.
[00:39:05]  Thank you so much.
[00:39:06]  And then he flew away like a dove.
[00:39:10]  I didn't say it.
[00:39:11]  And I dropped my knees and I cried.
[00:39:12]  I converted to Christianity.
[00:39:13]  I said, Thank you, Jesus.
[00:39:14]  Let me bask in your light.
[00:39:15]  That's what he said.
[00:39:15]  That was the whole story.
[00:39:16]  But no, it was just the first part of the story.
[00:39:18]  But then I heard it and I was like, wow, that's an amazing story.
[00:39:20]  Thank you so much for telling me.
[00:39:21]  And I was thinking about it later.
[00:39:22]  I was like, that's such a perfect story.
[00:39:24]  That's an amazing story.
[00:39:25]  What would you tell your buddy that's like having a hard time?
[00:39:26]  Would it be more perfect if it happened to you, dickhead?
[00:39:31]  It didn't happen to me.
[00:39:32]  That's my point.
[00:39:34]  Do you remember the kid?
[00:39:36]  Come on, are you kidding me?
[00:39:37]  You're being a dad.
[00:39:38]  Are you kidding me?
[00:39:39]  I told you this yesterday and you were like, You're being a dickhead, bro.
[00:39:42]  I told you this yesterday, and you were like, No, it's true.
[00:39:45]  Are you kidding me?
[00:39:46]  It was fake.
[00:39:47]  Listen, Ben, right now, who's listening?
[00:39:49]  Ben is it real or is it?
[00:39:50]  Ben, and you were with a woman.
[00:39:52]  I don't know if she was your mom.
[00:39:53]  I don't know who she was, but you came up to me outside of Ahme.
[00:39:56]  This is when we went to a meeting.
[00:39:57]  What did he look like?
[00:39:57]  What have been?
[00:39:58]  And there was a kid that came up to me.
[00:39:59]  Come on, yes.
[00:40:01]  Thank you.
[00:40:02]  Except I didn't hear what he said.
[00:40:03]  I was focused on a girl in line.
[00:40:05]  Fair enough.
[00:40:06]  Still, but you focused on his mom?
[00:40:08]  No, little kid.
[00:40:08]  No, no, this is true.
[00:40:09]  This is true.
[00:40:10]  And he was a kid.
[00:40:10]  He came up and he said, Listen to Flagrant 2 and he watched the clips.
[00:40:13]  And it was all throughout the time he was in the hospital.
[00:40:15]  I think he said he was in the hospital for three years.
[00:40:17]  And we really kept his spirits up.
[00:40:19]  And he just recently was announced as cancer-free, teenager.
[00:40:22]  And that's a beautiful thing.
[00:40:24]  Well, thank you.
[00:40:24]  Why don't you believe him?
[00:40:25]  It was just such a perfect story.
[00:40:27]  You're going through a hard time and you called your buddy.
[00:40:28]  He's like, well, you know, you actually.
[00:40:30]  What a dick.
[00:40:31]  I'm just saying.
[00:40:31]  It was a tragic story.
[00:40:32]  It was a perfect story.
[00:40:33]  Everybody thinks I'm a liar.
[00:40:34]  You deserve to be sad that we think.
[00:40:38]  Piece of shit.
[00:40:38]  I'm trying to give you some light to bat skin.
[00:40:40]  It was an amazing story.
[00:40:41]  Yeah, life is about stories, Bible boy.
[00:40:44]  You know what I mean?
[00:40:45]  Fucking hey.
[00:40:46]  You believe those stories.
[00:40:47]  This one's completely plausible.
[00:40:49]  You didn't write it down.
[00:40:50]  That was the issue.
[00:40:50]  You didn't write it down.
[00:40:51]  I didn't know I didn't write it down.
[00:40:52]  I guess.
[00:40:53]  No, you didn't write it down.
[00:40:54]  No, you told it to me on the phone.
[00:40:55]  Yeah, the original Bible wasn't written down.
[00:40:57]  Right?
[00:40:58]  It was motherfuckers talking all day.
[00:40:59]  Yeah, oral history.
[00:41:00]  I don't know.
[00:41:00]  That's dicey.
[00:41:01]  All I'm saying is that's a real story.
[00:41:02]  Ben, DM Mark, to let him know.
[00:41:04]  Shout out to you, Ben.
[00:41:05]  Okay.
[00:41:05]  Appreciate you.
[00:41:06]  Thank you for listening.
[00:41:07]  I'm glad we could help you through that difficult time.
[00:41:09]  Yeah.
[00:41:09]  Now, what did that have to do with what we were talking about?
[00:41:11]  I forget.
[00:41:12]  Oh, you faked a love crime.
[00:41:14]  I faked a love crime.

=== Nuclear War Stories (15:49) ===

[00:41:15]  Yeah, the opposite.
[00:41:16]  No, I didn't fake a love crime.
[00:41:18]  I didn't fake a love crime.
[00:41:19]  It was a Nigerian man that came up to you and he was like, hey, man, I love Flagrant 2.
[00:41:23]  I have cancer.
[00:41:24]  I love Flagrant 2.
[00:41:25]  Lying to himself specifically.
[00:41:26]  Nobody else in the show.
[00:41:28]  Ben will be 50 bucks.
[00:41:31]  We lie to ourselves all the time and we believe these lies all the time.
[00:41:35]  We justify the weapons of mass destruction.
[00:41:38]  Yes.
[00:41:38]  Is that not worse than Jussie?
[00:41:43]  Is that not worse than Jussie?
[00:41:44]  Slightly worse.
[00:41:45]  Slightly worse.
[00:41:47]  Nobody died with Jussie.
[00:41:48]  Jussie did it to himself.
[00:41:50]  It was a self-inflicted.
[00:41:51]  But he almost let two dudes go to jail.
[00:41:52]  Say again?
[00:41:53]  Like, I'm pretty sure he had to go to the jail.
[00:41:54]  They were going to go to jail eventually.
[00:41:57]  Wait, what?
[00:41:57]  Wait, not the Nigerian.
[00:41:59]  Wait, what happened?
[00:42:00]  Not the Nigerians.
[00:42:00]  Oh, what?
[00:42:01]  Yeah, these other guys, they like, he had to do like a lineup and pick people out.
[00:42:05]  And he was like, I think it was them.
[00:42:06]  Yo, they deserve to be in jail.
[00:42:07]  Why?
[00:42:08]  Because they were in on it.
[00:42:10]  They too faked a hate crime.
[00:42:13]  What?
[00:42:13]  Just random people.
[00:42:14]  So other people white people.
[00:42:16]  Hey, you know what?
[00:42:16]  Isn't it time white people took the fall for something?
[00:42:18]  Black people did.
[00:42:20]  Hey, that's the justice system working its way.
[00:42:22]  That's the OJ, but the other way.
[00:42:24]  Yes.
[00:42:24]  Wait a minute.
[00:42:26]  Isn't that happening right now?
[00:42:27]  How so?
[00:42:29]  Ukraine?
[00:42:30]  What did black people do with that?
[00:42:32]  Hold on.
[00:42:32]  Obama didn't do shit when Russia went to Crimea.
[00:42:36]  Pussy ass.
[00:42:37]  Okay.
[00:42:37]  Pussy ass Obama.
[00:42:40]  Pussy ass Obama didn't do shit when Russia busted down the doors in Crimea.
[00:42:44]  If Obama was harder on him.
[00:42:45]  Yeah.
[00:42:46]  If Obama lit it up, we wouldn't be in this situation right now.
[00:42:49]  You know what I mean?
[00:42:50]  Matter of fact, Trump pussy too for not doing something.
[00:42:53]  Stepping up.
[00:42:54]  Trump with all that tough talk.
[00:42:56]  Why don't you snatch back Crimea?
[00:42:57]  Oh.
[00:42:59]  Okay.
[00:43:00]  I wonder if there's more geopolitical layers to that.
[00:43:02]  Fuck layers.
[00:43:03]  Yeah, fuck layers, right?
[00:43:04]  Fuck layer thinking.
[00:43:06]  America is pussy right now.
[00:43:08]  And no countries respect us and it's driving me fucking crazy.
[00:43:11]  And if I was close to that button, someone's getting nuked.
[00:43:14]  Yeah.
[00:43:14]  That's why you're not close to me.
[00:43:15]  I don't know.
[00:43:16]  But don't ever let me get close to that button.
[00:43:17]  Yeah, we can.
[00:43:18]  Because somebody's getting nibbed.
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[00:44:50]  All I'm trying to say is America is acting pussy right now.
[00:44:52]  Okay.
[00:44:53]  And, but again, I don't know if that's exactly what's happening.
[00:44:57]  We need a geopolitical expert on the podcast who might also be able to build anything.
[00:45:03]  So we have a DIY expert and a geopolitical expert.
[00:45:06]  We have a good friend of ours.
[00:45:07]  And if he was only here with us right now, we could probably get to the bottom of this whole Russian situation about America being kind of pussy and nobody respecting us on the global front.
[00:45:17]  We have Ben Uyeda with us right now.
[00:45:19]  Everybody, what's up, Ben?
[00:45:20]  Magically in place, the genius of editing.
[00:45:25]  Talk to us.
[00:45:26]  Are we pussy or do we just have way more to lose than everyone else?
[00:45:30]  I mean, I look at like Russia's economy.
[00:45:32]  They don't even make what California makes.
[00:45:34]  Our most socialist state makes more money than that entire socialist country.
[00:45:40]  Okay, so they have nothing to lose.
[00:45:41]  You're sorry.
[00:45:42]  Right.
[00:45:42]  Like, I got in fights when I was in my teens and 20s.
[00:45:45]  I didn't have anything to lose.
[00:45:46]  I couldn't get sued.
[00:45:47]  Or if I did, it's like good luck suing me for what?
[00:45:49]  Like American Eagle torn jeans.
[00:45:51]  But when it comes to now, it's like we have a lot to lose economically.
[00:45:56]  Russia doesn't.
[00:45:57]  This is all they do.
[00:45:58]  They got military.
[00:45:59]  They don't make anything.
[00:46:00]  They got oil and military.
[00:46:02]  Okay, fair enough.
[00:46:03]  And I think that makes perfect sense.
[00:46:04]  But why does it seem like countries aren't respecting us right now?
[00:46:09]  And what I mean, countries aren't respecting us.
[00:46:10]  You have like Iran shoots some missiles at the U.S. consulate, but it's not exactly U.S. consulate.
[00:46:16]  It's like territory in Kurdistan that the U.S. consulate occupies.
[00:46:20]  Apparently, it was like some retaliatory shit to, I guess, an Israeli mission where they took out a few colonels in Syria.
[00:46:27]  Then you have like India just straight up doing a deal with Russia for oil, not even considering how we might feel about that.
[00:46:35]  You got, okay, who else?
[00:46:37]  What else?
[00:46:37]  I mean, there's a few buy Saudi Arabia, not even answering the phone.
[00:46:41]  I think they look at us like a rich kid that doesn't quite deserve what they have, but they still don't want to get too offensive because we won't invite them to the party.
[00:46:49]  They still all are interdependent with our economy.
[00:46:52]  So they're kind of like, we'll kind of disrespect you and undermine your success and kind of be like, oh, it's not just a bunch of cowboys, immature, can't handle COVID, make fun of our presidents, all that kind of stuff.
[00:47:03]  But they still all know that we drive the needle globally in terms of the economy.
[00:47:07]  But they're not acting like it.
[00:47:09]  Yeah, but I also look like what they say and whose calls they take as our leadership, it doesn't really matter.
[00:47:16]  They kind of know what we're going to do.
[00:47:18]  But I think, here's what I think is really interesting is like watching how we're kind of going with this kind of economic warfare, sanctions, right?
[00:47:26]  I think we should just call it like economic war.
[00:47:29]  I kind of think that's really smart, regardless of the mechanisms that are done.
[00:47:34]  Because if you look at like the size of the war chest and who has way more chips on the table, we can play with a lot more chips against Russia economically.
[00:47:43]  When it comes to anything military, weapons to weapons, we're kind of the gunfight kind of evens it all out once it comes to nukes.
[00:47:51]  So I like us playing where we have like a huge strategic advantage.
[00:47:56]  The question is, though, it's like, why do we still need oil?
[00:47:59]  Like, that's the only thing that's.
[00:48:00]  That's what I'm trying to figure out.
[00:48:01]  Right.
[00:48:02]  Like, what do you mean?
[00:48:04]  Why do we need oil?
[00:48:04]  Because shit runs on oil.
[00:48:06]  The whole world runs it on.
[00:48:07]  We have to.
[00:48:08]  For the immediate future, it does.
[00:48:10]  Right.
[00:48:10]  Let's say in 10 years, we could get all these buildings and everything to not rely on it.
[00:48:14]  But like this building right now, we need some fucking oil.
[00:48:16]  Right.
[00:48:17]  But let's also look like 10 to 20 years in the past and who was sort of pushing against sort of going to renewable electric vehicles and all these things too.
[00:48:24]  They were pushing us towards less freedom.
[00:48:26]  It's funny that like the political spectrum that always talks about freedom loves to be dependent globally on things like oil.
[00:48:34]  And it seems a little bit hypocritical to talk about freedom and not talk about sort of the economic requirements of freedom.
[00:48:42]  You're saying like conservatives talk a lot about freedom, but their policies lend us to a reliance on certain countries that we might not be allies with.
[00:48:53]  Right.
[00:48:53]  And don't get me wrong.
[00:48:54]  Like the left wing of the party or the left end of the spectrum is equally to blame.
[00:49:00]  They kind of shut down a lot of things like nuclear energy that would have pushed us towards energy independence a lot faster.
[00:49:08]  Right.
[00:49:08]  Look at sort of like Germany versus France right now.
[00:49:10]  I think that's like a really interesting dynamic.
[00:49:13]  France sort of went all in on nuclear a while ago and has much more energy independence than Germany.
[00:49:18]  So Germany's forced into these really bad ideological positions because of their dependence on energy.
[00:49:24]  So I think those are sort of the interesting sort of takeaways, but the whole kind of like Germany's fine with nuclear energy.
[00:49:31]  They just don't want to be on their territory.
[00:49:33]  Yeah.
[00:49:34]  That's their fraudulence.
[00:49:35]  They're like, we're not going to do it.
[00:49:36]  We're not going to build any power plants, but we're going to use the nuclear energy of the people around us.
[00:49:40]  So it's still nuclear energy.
[00:49:42]  Yeah.
[00:49:42]  But I don't like the talking tough thing.
[00:49:46]  It's so easy to be tough when you have nothing to lose.
[00:49:49]  When I look at the people that pick fights, they're people with nothing to lose.
[00:49:53]  Reputation is a lot to lose.
[00:49:55]  Yeah.
[00:49:55]  The fact that like the fact that two countries, well, at least Saudi Arabia, number one, should be answering our call every single time we call.
[00:50:01]  I mean, there should be a specific, there should be a specific ringtone that's just the United States of America.
[00:50:06]  And they pick up immediately.
[00:50:07]  They go, thank you so much for our existence.
[00:50:09]  We really appreciate you making it so that nobody comes and invades us and taking all this valuable oil.
[00:50:13]  We really, thank you so much.
[00:50:14]  Thank you so much.
[00:50:15]  Thank you so much.
[00:50:16]  What can I help you with?
[00:50:17]  That's how they should answer the phone every single time in perfect English.
[00:50:21]  There is no way.
[00:50:23]  There's no way that communication isn't really happening, though.
[00:50:26]  So that's the other thing.
[00:50:27]  Okay, maybe there's like a...
[00:50:28]  It's all posturing.
[00:50:29]  It's all poster.
[00:50:30]  Netflix calls you.
[00:50:33]  You're going to take it.
[00:50:34]  You might just like let it ring a few times.
[00:50:37]  Interesting.
[00:50:39]  Interesting.
[00:50:39]  Okay, okay, okay.
[00:50:40]  So you're saying that they're putting out propaganda that we're not back channel conversation, having back channel conversations with the United States of America right now.
[00:50:47]  Put this way, there's no major platform that you're not taking the call from.
[00:50:51]  Doesn't mean you're going to go with them.
[00:50:52]  Doesn't mean you're going to like not play a little bit.
[00:50:54]  Comedy Central can take the call.
[00:50:55]  Yeah.
[00:50:56]  Comedy Central can't pay their phone bill, though.
[00:51:01]  So I don't know.
[00:51:02]  Like, again, like, I don't worry about those things.
[00:51:04]  I worry about one, I don't want nuclear war to happen because that erases all progress that all of us have made individually, collectively, everything down to zero.
[00:51:13]  Everyone loses.
[00:51:14]  There are no winners in sort of nuclear war.
[00:51:17]  Yeah, we won last nuclear war.
[00:51:19]  I'm kind of with that.
[00:51:20]  I'm kind of.
[00:51:21]  Depends who drops it.
[00:51:22]  Yeah.
[00:51:24]  And then everything worked out great.
[00:51:26]  Nuclear war has been great for us.
[00:51:30]  So I was like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:51:31]  Like, for us, that shut everybody down.
[00:51:35]  I don't know how the, I don't know how the war was going to be.
[00:51:37]  You've been on both sides of nuclear war.
[00:51:39]  Half-Japanese.
[00:51:42]  As if it has been on both sides and literally.
[00:51:45]  We're done for y'all too.
[00:51:48]  Well, hold on.
[00:51:49]  Let him get there.
[00:51:50]  Half the family was locked up in concentration camps here in the U.S. After they dropped the nuke, they pie, let him out.
[00:51:59]  So, no, like, look, the Japanese Empire was not going to quit that war.
[00:52:03]  They were going to fight it down to the last thing.
[00:52:05]  And so that's why it seemed like it was dropped.
[00:52:07]  But here's the thing.
[00:52:08]  If Russia gets any off, right?
[00:52:11]  Like, one nuke lands on U.S. soil.
[00:52:15]  Like, what do you think happens to the stock market the next day?
[00:52:17]  What do you think happens to a couple hundred million people?
[00:52:20]  All those things.
[00:52:21]  Opportunities.
[00:52:23]  We have too much to lose.
[00:52:25]  And I think that's why we're like playing it really slow and conservative.
[00:52:29]  But that's that's kind of what getting older and being mature is: is you get more cautious because you have real stakes to lose.
[00:52:37]  Like if you were in your 20s, you'd be doing that like Jake and Logan Paul kind of boxing shit.
[00:52:43]  You'd be like, I got a little bit.
[00:52:44]  I could do this.
[00:52:44]  But now you're like, I could do it, but you're not going to, right?
[00:52:48]  It depends the money.
[00:52:51]  But it has to be a lot higher proportionate to what you used to be able to do.
[00:52:54]  Yeah, but more money is impressive to me now at an older age where I'm more successful than when I was younger.
[00:52:59]  Yeah.
[00:52:59]  So that's just a function of success, not age.
[00:53:02]  Yeah.
[00:53:02]  But it's like, my whole thing is like, we have the, like, if California, Texas, and New York State all have economies like equal to Russia, why do we have to go all in on one hand with them?
[00:53:16]  Yeah.
[00:53:18]  I guess I would just like our geopolitical posturing to be a little bit better.
[00:53:21]  Because we do all this shit where we're like, oh, we're supporting Ukraine and we're here for Ukraine and we're posting the flags and we're doing, there's all this propaganda we're putting out about how much we're there for Ukraine.
[00:53:30]  And it's like, we're blocking the fighter jets that Poland said that they were going to give.
[00:53:35]  We're not actually giving that much support.
[00:53:37]  I understand they're like sending some troops over there.
[00:53:39]  But like so far, a lot of the technology they've been using to thwart these Russian attacks has come from Turkey.
[00:53:43]  Like the drones, other like anti-tank, I don't know what they're called, bazookas or some shit.
[00:53:50]  Javelins.
[00:53:51]  So it's like, where are we supporting?
[00:53:53]  Show me where we're supporting besides posting shit on Twitter.
[00:53:55]  Why are we so pussy to support?
[00:53:58]  What has the Russian ruble been doing?
[00:54:00]  I think that's showing support.
[00:54:02]  It's causing them to economically tank.
[00:54:04]  But they're not shooting rubles at them.
[00:54:06]  What are the two best things Russia is good at?
[00:54:08]  Making a supposedly having a really big military and exporting oil.
[00:54:14]  Natural resources.
[00:54:15]  My thoughts, if you're in a game against somebody else, you hit them where you take away what they're actually good at.
[00:54:21]  And if they don't got anything...
[00:54:22]  Build Belichick defense.
[00:54:23]  Yeah.
[00:54:24]  So it's like, I don't know.
[00:54:26]  Like, let's focus on our energy independence, decouple our economy from things that we can't produce.
[00:54:33]  And that might mean like sort of upping American sort of natural gas production in the meantime.
[00:54:38]  No problems with that whatsoever.
[00:54:39]  Like, yeah, let's do a little more fracking just to get through this.
[00:54:42]  But long term, let's be energy independent.
[00:54:45]  And then if we can, if the two things they do are military and oil, let's just beat them at both of those things.
[00:54:52]  And so economically, they're nothing.
[00:54:55]  They're tiny.
[00:54:56]  But so far, we can't get our supposed friends and allies to create more.
[00:55:02]  What is it called?
[00:55:03]  I can't get this right.
[00:55:04]  Produce more oil, increase production of oil.
[00:55:07]  What is that?
[00:55:08]  What is that term?
[00:55:09]  I think.
[00:55:09]  Oh, yeah.
[00:55:11]  So we can't get them.
[00:55:12]  They won't even pick up the phone.
[00:55:14]  Right.
[00:55:14]  Now we have to call people who we're beefing with.
[00:55:16]  We got to call Iran.
[00:55:17]  We got to call Venezuela.
[00:55:18]  And we go, oh, we're so sorry.
[00:55:19]  We'd love it if you could please increase oil production so it becomes cheaper.
[00:55:23]  So it's like we can't even flex on the people who are supposed to be on our side.
[00:55:26]  They're not looking out for us.
[00:55:27]  So where is our power?
[00:55:28]  I'm so we didn't listen to the people that were talking about this decades ago.
[00:55:34]  So it might just make sense to listen to some of those people now.
[00:55:37]  It doesn't mean they will be completely right, but it's not like we ever had a situation where we thought, like, hey, we're on great terms with the Middle East and great terms with Russia.
[00:55:46]  Let's keep making our economy tied to them.
[00:55:49]  We could have avoided this, but we didn't.
[00:55:51]  And we so focus on our own little infighting and pettiness.
[00:55:54]  And then on the left, we get so tied up in the symbolic nature of environmentalism that we lose the bigger picture.
[00:56:01]  But the part that I think where the left and right can really come together is and you know, I'm really curious to see how the Ford electric truck does, right?
[00:56:09]  Yeah.
[00:56:10]  Because like big trucks are like the kind of go-to vehicle for consumption people.
[00:56:15]  And electric vehicles are kind of like this hallmark that shows that we're progressing away from this thing.
[00:56:21]  So it's like the Ford 150, like electric truck, if that does well, like kind of like, can't we all be happy?
[00:56:27]  And then maybe we do a little bit of like more fracking, but we also do some nuclear plants and a lot of solar and all that.
[00:56:33]  This is where we move away from all of this.
[00:56:35]  This is working out perfect for electric truck or car companies because now there was this like, if you had an electric car, there's this like a sentiment that it's pussy a little bit.
[00:56:46]  It's pussy.
[00:56:47]  I don't want to say anti-American.
[00:56:49]  But the Prius had a, it had like a political agenda with it.
[00:56:52]  Yeah.
[00:56:52]  It wasn't that.
[00:56:53]  It wasn't electric, but like, or it wasn't purely electric, I guess.
[00:56:55]  But like when you saw someone driving it.
[00:56:57]  It's like a liberal car.
[00:56:58]  Someone had an identity attached to it.
[00:56:59]  Yes.
[00:57:00]  You listen to NPR.
[00:57:01]  Yes.
[00:57:01]  You live in a city.
[00:57:02]  You're conscious about the environment and intruding on others.

=== Electric Truck Manufacturing (03:07) ===

[00:57:05]  Very collectivist.
[00:57:05]  Now having an electric car is a conservative virtue because you're taking money out of the Russian war effort.
[00:57:13]  It could be.
[00:57:13]  I don't know.
[00:57:14]  Potentially.
[00:57:15]  But it could be marketed as such.
[00:57:17]  You go, hey, you want to hurt Russia?
[00:57:19]  Don't drive that V8 and use all that Russian oil and fill up your car, your truck every single day with that Russian oil and support the oppression of the Ukrainian people.
[00:57:27]  Get an electric car.
[00:57:29]  Yeah.
[00:57:30]  And we could even go farther and say, like, which is a very economically for individual finance conservative point of view, where it's like, you should own your own energy source.
[00:57:38]  Put some solar panels on your house, put that into your mortgage.
[00:57:42]  Suddenly, the interest on your mortgage rate is tax deductible.
[00:57:47]  You can basically own your own gas station, fuel up your own car, and turn what was and increase the value of your home all in one place.
[00:57:56]  Like that sounds like super kind of like prepper, financially conservative, save your money, spend responsibly, take control of your own sort of things or produce your own things that you need.
[00:58:06]  All of that seems like it could be this real kind of middle of the road position that all the sides here want that also sort of make the country a little bit stronger.
[00:58:16]  And it doesn't actually hurt the oil manufacturers here because we're just going to shift our reliance to them 100%.
[00:58:23]  So it's going to increase the amount that they make.
[00:58:25]  Right.
[00:58:26]  And then we subsidize the rest of it with eco-friendly options.
[00:58:30]  Yeah.
[00:58:31]  Like we also kind of saw during the pandemic too, where we realized we are a little bit too dependent on manufacturing for like masks and all this like kind of personal protection equipment.
[00:58:42]  And so a lot of that's sort of been coming a little bit back slowly and surely to the U.S. We're also seeing with like supply chain, and I'm seeing this in my business, is that it used to be all like the components for the home, more of them were manufactured in China or Vietnam.
[00:58:56]  With the sort of supply chain problems, everything takes longer to get here to order windows that are manufactured over there is taking like five or six months.
[00:59:04]  So it's making manufacturing in the U.S. more viable.
[00:59:07]  So during the pandemic, me and my partners kind of invested in more U.S. manufacturing things.
[00:59:11]  And it's really kind of an exciting thing.
[00:59:13]  I think that's the silver lining to all these things is it really exposes where our weakness is.
[00:59:18]  Like when you lose at something, you see where you're weak.
[00:59:22]  And then you can kind of play against that and start building up some of those strengths.
[00:59:27]  Yeah, it would have been nice if we would have listened to people decades ago and been a little bit more energy independent.
[00:59:33]  We've always known that our politics are compromised by our need on oil.
[00:59:38]  That's not new.
[00:59:39]  Yeah.
[00:59:39]  Like my parents' generation was talking about this.
[00:59:42]  Yeah.
[00:59:43]  So now that it's happening over and over again, and it doesn't really seem like in any time in our future, the Middle East and Russia is going to be like more fun to deal with.
[00:59:54]  Yeah.
[00:59:55]  Yeah.
[00:59:55]  So let's just start.
[00:59:57]  Now, that being said, it's not all going to be solar panels and windmills.
[01:00:01]  Two questions.
[01:00:03]  One, how does China play this whole game out?
[01:00:09]  I have no idea.
[01:00:10]  Like, and I don't think anyone does.

=== Honey Discount Codes (03:08) ===

[01:00:12]  They're going to play it really smart and they're going to play it without the fear of pandering to a populace on social media.
[01:00:20]  And I think that's their big advantage: they can really just play the game without playing, worrying about how it's going to play in public opinion.
[01:00:28]  And that's why I don't think we give our politicians like enough credit on both sides of the aisle.
[01:00:34]  Like it's a really hard game to play where you're listening to both experts and trying to make really smart decisions, but you also have to deal with a populace that's just dumb.
[01:00:43]  Yeah.
[01:00:44]  They have to listen to both the smartest voices in the room in terms of their advisors, but they also have to pay attention to the dumbest people on social media driving public opinion.
[01:00:53]  Yeah.
[01:00:54]  That is a really hard thing to do.
[01:00:56]  And I don't think, I mean, none of us would want to take that job.
[01:01:00]  Right.
[01:01:01]  So, like, kudos to them for just even trying to navigate that insanely difficult position.
[01:01:07]  Yeah.
[01:01:08]  It's the Joseph Kony thing.
[01:01:09]  Yeah.
[01:01:09]  Like, I donated.
[01:01:11]  Yeah.
[01:01:11]  Yeah.
[01:01:11]  I don't.
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[01:01:14]  Yeah.
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[01:01:16]  I want people to know that Kony's got to go down.
[01:01:18]  And now you have these U.S. politicians going, we're not going to send troops to the middle of where the fuck was it?
[01:01:24]  Uganda?
[01:01:25]  Was it Uganda?
[01:01:26]  I did.
[01:01:26]  I'm sure I've gotten got a hundred times.
[01:01:28]  I didn't get got by Kony.
[01:01:29]  That was the one I was like, let me wait and see.
[01:01:31]  Yeah.
[01:01:31]  So I don't even remember where he was, but yeah.
[01:01:33]  Okay.
[01:01:34]  So China is basically chilling back, trying to figure out whose side they should be on based on where this goes.
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=== Richest Human Compromise (14:00) ===

[01:03:21]  Overall, you're not bothered by the U.S.'s lack of response.
[01:03:24]  I think we're bothered.
[01:03:25]  I know I'm bothered because it's like, I feel like the U.S. is losing the number one spot to China.
[01:03:30]  And the fact that these countries don't seem to give a fuck about what we think on a small scale at least is validating that fear in my mind.
[01:03:38]  So that's where I'm like, now we got to do something about this.
[01:03:40]  Let's cut this shit off at the head.
[01:03:42]  Why am I wrong?
[01:03:42]  Because I'm an idiot.
[01:03:43]  I don't think you're wrong.
[01:03:45]  But I also would look at sort of Amazon versus Alibaba and where those kind of stocks are going.
[01:03:51]  And I think that gives you a good indication of what China is doing with their economy.
[01:03:55]  Before they had it sort of more opened up to Western markets, and Alibaba is roughly about the size of Amazon.
[01:04:03]  They sort of are slowing closing off their economy and putting more restrictive things on their tech companies because what they see is that like Google, Facebook are way more powerful than any sort of government agency, right?
[01:04:18]  Like I think we'd all agree to that.
[01:04:20]  So they're like, oh, well, let's just make sure that doesn't happen.
[01:04:23]  So that is hampering their economic growth, which is in the favor of our economy, but it's also still consolidating their power.
[01:04:30]  So I think the thing that Putin shows is if you consolidate power to one person, you inhibit growth.
[01:04:36]  Like delegation is the thing that creates massive amounts of growth.
[01:04:40]  The more you sort of delegate, the more people you have growing underneath you growing the whole entity.
[01:04:43]  Russia's economy is shrinking, not growing.
[01:04:47]  Look at like the World Bank sort of publishes GDP for all these countries.
[01:04:51]  It's going down.
[01:04:53]  Even before the war.
[01:04:54]  Yeah.
[01:04:54]  Okay.
[01:04:55]  As every country is going up.
[01:04:57]  You said an interesting thing.
[01:04:58]  You said to me, you said, Russia is what happens when you remove nerds from the capitalist system.
[01:05:04]  Nerds are our best sort of defense, I think.
[01:05:06]  We bring the smartest people or we incentivize the smartest people from all over the world.
[01:05:11]  Look at who all the CEOs of all the tech companies are.
[01:05:13]  The reason we think Indians are smart is that we bring the smartest Indians from India.
[01:05:17]  Right.
[01:05:18]  So that, like, we get this kind of fantasy that we want this like badass guy that does martial arts and can kick people's ass and served in the military to like run something that relates more to spreadsheets than it does to like lifting kettlebells.
[01:05:33]  Yeah.
[01:05:35]  Putin is not a great leader when it looks like, look at what their economy does.
[01:05:40]  What do they make?
[01:05:41]  Do you have a Russian smartphone or a Russian TV or a Russian they got the best vaccine according to their numbers?
[01:05:49]  According to their numbers.
[01:05:50]  Right.
[01:05:50]  Like who's fact checking the look at what they export?
[01:05:53]  Like the number one export is crude oil and the number two is like refined oil.
[01:05:58]  Like it's no electronics, no pharmaceuticals, like wheat's up there.
[01:06:02]  They export oil and gluten, like two things that are like probably going away.
[01:06:07]  So I think it's not, they also do a lot of like forestry products and stuff like that.
[01:06:11]  So taking over something the size of the Ukraine, which has probably more oil, a lot of forestry and these other kind of raw resources, adds to what they're already good at.
[01:06:21]  But they're kind of losers.
[01:06:24]  They got this badass reputation.
[01:06:25]  They have a really scary intelligence and military operation.
[01:06:30]  But where are their nerds?
[01:06:31]  Where are their productive nerds?
[01:06:33]  And I think that's what's kind of amazing about the U.S. is that, sure, we can kick your ass, but we kind of say that to protect and bring in like the best and brightest nerds from all over the world.
[01:06:43]  And then just give them this awesome like economic playground and tons of money from VC, private equity, and all these things to just blow up their ideas.
[01:06:51]  And apparently they're experiencing more brain drain now.
[01:06:55]  Like there are more Russian scholars and intellects that are all leaving given the current conflict.
[01:06:59]  Like here's a great example of a Russian nerd, that guy Gary Kasparov, the chess player.
[01:07:03]  He's over here.
[01:07:04]  Yeah, okay.
[01:07:05]  He's in the West now.
[01:07:06]  You can play chess over there.
[01:07:08]  Yeah.
[01:07:09]  There's a reason he came to America.
[01:07:11]  And he's, and I don't endorse anything that he necessarily says or pushes, but he has very strong opinions about their sort of government and particularly about Putin.
[01:07:23]  But I don't think that you want to get in a fight with somebody that the only thing they have in life is fighting.
[01:07:31]  And they have nothing and nothing else to recover.
[01:07:33]  Now, what if they take advantage of that and they keep on acquiring or invading, oppressing more places in Europe?
[01:07:39]  Yeah, to your point about their economic.
[01:07:41]  Eventually, you need to slap them.
[01:07:42]  Doesn't it go back up if you just keep invading countries that are weaker?
[01:07:45]  Even if it goes down, like if these people are used to some form of misery, right?
[01:07:48]  I think that's the biggest advantage they have over us is like...
[01:07:51]  Americans and I guess Europeans, I think will start to break when they have to spend $8 a gallon for gas because we're not used to misery.
[01:07:58]  Whereas I think the Russian people, they're just kind of used to it.
[01:08:01]  They're like, yeah, sometimes there's really tough times and a lot of people die or the ruble's worth nothing.
[01:08:05]  And this has happened over and over throughout history for the Russian people.
[01:08:09]  So if we're getting into a game of misery, we will lose.
[01:08:15]  Maybe.
[01:08:15]  I don't think we lose in anything.
[01:08:17]  I don't think there's any way for us to lose on sort of an economic battlefield.
[01:08:21]  The only way we can lose is with sort of nukes and sort of other sort of weapons of mass destruction.
[01:08:28]  By lose, I mean like you have to acknowledge public sentiment, right?
[01:08:32]  And if the public sentiment is, I don't want anything to do with Ukraine, I don't know anything about Ukrainians, so I don't give a fuck about Vladimir Putin.
[01:08:38]  We're so far away from them.
[01:08:39]  They're so distant.
[01:08:40]  Why are we even involved in ourselves?
[01:08:41]  Why am I paying $9 a gallon for some people that don't even speak English?
[01:08:45]  I can't even communicate with these folks.
[01:08:46]  I think of it as like we're all in like a club and we have like our friends and family there too.
[01:08:51]  So we have a lot to lose, right?
[01:08:52]  And there's one guy kind of acting up and we think he might have a gun or actually we know he has a gun and he's sort of acting out and calling everybody up.
[01:08:59]  What you want to do to get rid of that person is you kind of want to get everyone in the club on the same page to slowly kind of all move together to push him out.
[01:09:08]  You don't want any one person to immediately step up and say, get the fuck out of here because then it might escalate it.
[01:09:15]  So I think that's actually what's kind of happening.
[01:09:17]  And look, what?
[01:09:18]  Like Switzerland's like taking a position in this?
[01:09:21]  Like they are known for being neutral and they're sort of cutting off economically.
[01:09:27]  So I think, I don't know, like I think the thing that we sort of taken for granted, and I grew up during the Cold War, so I remember like a little bit during that kind of anxiety and fear of kind of nuclear threat overhead is we don't celebrate enough every year that like a nuke doesn't go off.
[01:09:46]  Like these things exist and one haven't, one hasn't gone off in a really long time.
[01:09:52]  And I almost think that like globally we need to create like more of a, we have to have like a global holiday like once a year where like the whole world just says, you know what, everyone's stop.
[01:10:00]  No one works today.
[01:10:02]  No nukes went off this year.
[01:10:03]  That humans can be pretty shitty.
[01:10:06]  Yeah.
[01:10:06]  But once again, we did it.
[01:10:08]  Like that's actually kind of an incredible achievement that we have these weapons of mass destruction and it's one hasn't gone off in a really long time.
[01:10:16]  So I think the more we celebrate things like that, the more that like Putin goes like, if I ever hit that button, I'm the asshole that's ruining the party forever and ever and ever.
[01:10:26]  Do you think he cares about that?
[01:10:28]  No idea.
[01:10:29]  And I find it really disingenuous when people say that they think they have an insight into how his mind is working.
[01:10:35]  I think what's fascinating about him is that we haven't seen consolidation of military power to like one individual like that that we all kind of have known of for a long time.
[01:10:42]  Like he's the perfect side villain.
[01:10:44]  Yeah.
[01:10:45]  Yeah.
[01:10:45]  And who knows who's really in charge in North Korea?
[01:10:50]  Yeah.
[01:10:50]  But he's got a good haircut.
[01:10:52]  Yeah.
[01:10:52]  No, yeah, the Putin thing is interesting.
[01:10:54]  I don't know.
[01:10:55]  He's the most interesting global villain we've had in a while.
[01:10:58]  Yeah.
[01:10:58]  Yeah.
[01:10:59]  And he does fulfill, I mean, he completely fulfills the villain role.
[01:11:02]  I just, I don't know.
[01:11:03]  I think it's stupid to assume that he hasn't thought this out.
[01:11:06]  You know, I think a lot of times we look at this guy as like he's this barbarian, but like, no, I think he's playing chess too.
[01:11:11]  And I think he understands exactly what's going to happen.
[01:11:14]  There are people that are briefing him.
[01:11:15]  How's that chess working out for him economically?
[01:11:18]  Like, if he's such a smart, strategic thinker, maybe he is when it comes to sort of military.
[01:11:23]  If he's potentially the richest human being, the richest human being ever.
[01:11:26]  It's working out pretty good for him.
[01:11:27]  He probably doesn't care too much about his life.
[01:11:30]  How long is he the richest human being in the world?
[01:11:31]  He has very minimal pushback in his country.
[01:11:34]  So you're the richest guy ever, and the people in your country do what you say.
[01:11:37]  It's kind of working out.
[01:11:38]  Well, if you want to define leadership by how much of the share the guy on top keeps for themselves while not growing the pot from everyone else.
[01:11:45]  We're not saying he's a good leader, but we're saying he might have thought this through and he might not care what happens to his people.
[01:11:50]  He's fine.
[01:11:51]  He's insulated from all of it.
[01:11:53]  And his people are kind of like Andrew said, accustomed to misery.
[01:11:56]  So where does that leave us again to them?
[01:11:59]  The massive consolidation of individual power, I wouldn't debate that he hasn't achieved that, but it seems like he wants some sort of legacy of doing something for his country, whether it's regaining territory or whatever it is.
[01:12:14]  And that's why there's, because if it was just him getting the bag, he got the bag.
[01:12:18]  Why does he have to put any of his legacy sort of in risk?
[01:12:21]  So the expansion thing is weird.
[01:12:24]  If you got the bag, but you didn't do well for your people, like what is your legacy going to be?
[01:12:28]  That you extracted value and ran your country or you ran your country into negative growth while all these other countries were succeeding.
[01:12:37]  History books will not treat that kind of leadership kindly.
[01:12:41]  But if he's running the book, he writes the book.
[01:12:44]  If in his mind the legacy is, I just want to expand back to the USSR size or whatever it is, the more territory he acquires, the closer he got to leaving the legacy he wanted.
[01:12:52]  So does he care what history books will say about him and if in his mind he left a legacy he wanted to leave?
[01:12:58]  Well, let's say like he's what he's like 69, 70-ish.
[01:13:02]  70 years old and time.
[01:13:03]  So if he didn't do this Ukraine thing and just like played it out, maintained his massive bag, like, and then eventually sort of dies or succeeds, passes power off to someone else, all he's done is like shepherd a decline of what was once a global economic superpower.
[01:13:24]  That's it.
[01:13:25]  That's legacy is no championships, just slow decline under your watch.
[01:13:32]  That is kind of unavoidable as a legacy.
[01:13:36]  So now I think he has to do something on this sort of nationalistic standpoint near the end of his kind of something outside of the demise of Russia.
[01:13:46]  What has he done?
[01:13:47]  What has he built?
[01:13:48]  Okay, separate, I mean, not two separate conversations, but these oligarchs and the way that like the oligarchs have been punished globally.
[01:13:57]  Do you think it's fair?
[01:14:01]  I mean.
[01:14:02]  Like Roman Abramovich, right?
[01:14:04]  The guy who owns Chelsea.
[01:14:05]  He's a very famous oligarch.
[01:14:09]  I don't know.
[01:14:10]  There's all these sanctions being put on him.
[01:14:11]  He can't sell his team.
[01:14:12]  If he is going to sell a team, he has to go through the United Kingdom and they have to approve of it.
[01:14:17]  The team can't, I guess, even profit right now.
[01:14:19]  There's all these like weird rules that are been put on.
[01:14:22]  They have like a limited amount of money that they can spend on even travel, et cetera.
[01:14:25]  They can't even take hits only season tickets.
[01:14:28]  Only season ticket holders can come to games.
[01:14:30]  They can't basically make any additional new money.
[01:14:32]  It feels to me like that these sanctions are happening to these Russian oligarchs in hopes that the oligarchs will put pressure on Putin.
[01:14:42]  I mean, I don't think, what's his, I don't think Abramovich has lived in Russia in years, decades, maybe.
[01:14:49]  Yeah.
[01:14:49]  I mean, this is like what people going after sponsors to try to get to the person.
[01:14:55]  Yeah.
[01:14:55]  It's people look for the leverage points they have.
[01:14:58]  Is it fair?
[01:15:00]  Probably not on the sort of individual standpoint, but is it reasonable versus like our other options?
[01:15:06]  Probably.
[01:15:07]  So basically, what are they doing?
[01:15:08]  These are like the only people who we assume have access to Putin.
[01:15:14]  Yeah.
[01:15:14]  So they're trying to not even access to influence over maybe.
[01:15:17]  Right.
[01:15:18]  Yeah.
[01:15:19]  And to be fair, I mean, I guess if you dig on any sports owner, they probably got some money doing some fucked up things.
[01:15:25]  That's probably how you get that rich.
[01:15:27]  Every billionaire.
[01:15:27]  But yeah, but if you got a problem with Russia and the way he capitalized was buying, you know, all these properties or these oil companies for pennies on the dollar when the USSR fell, then it's like, all right, well, you're tied to this guy.
[01:15:39]  That's how you got your power.
[01:15:40]  So I'm going to go after you if I'm going after him.
[01:15:43]  Well, you're not tied to him.
[01:15:44]  That's the thing.
[01:15:45]  It's not like he even gave, he even made them the oligarchs.
[01:15:48]  He came after that.
[01:15:49]  So if he made all these people oligarchs, I'd be like, okay, well, Putin put all these people in positions of power.
[01:15:54]  They put him in power.
[01:15:55]  The oligarchs place Putin in there.
[01:15:58]  Yeah.
[01:15:58]  So it's like you're punishing Putin by punishing the oligarchs.
[01:16:03]  It weirdly seems unfair to me.
[01:16:04]  My understanding is they remain close.
[01:16:06]  Is that wrong?
[01:16:06]  Well, they have to.
[01:16:08]  Right.
[01:16:08]  So if you, if you're thinking, if he still has, like, he got Putin elected and then Putin helped him with his next acquisition of a big company, gave him tax breaks, all this stuff.
[01:16:16]  It seems like you two are still tied closely together.
[01:16:19]  I don't know about the other.
[01:16:20]  They're 100% tied closely together and they're using it to influence.
[01:16:22]  I guess what I'm saying is like, it's not like Putin put these people in power.
[01:16:25]  They were already billionaires.
[01:16:26]  They were already oligarchs before Putin's even in power.
[01:16:28]  Putin does this fuck shit and now you're taking it out on the people that are closest to him.
[01:16:33]  I don't know.
[01:16:34]  It weirdly seems like it weirdly seems unfair.
[01:16:38]  I think the lesson is if you look at like how tied in like London's like economy is to sort of like Russian oligarch money, it's kind of scary.
[01:16:47]  So I think that's kind of the lesson that I take from this is be careful with who you get into business with.
[01:16:54]  I think I got approached on a couple of NFT projects, thought about it, and then kind of was, you know, it's like you can definitely sort of grab the bag, but it ties you into that forever.
[01:17:05]  Yeah.
[01:17:06]  And I think more and more when we compromise ideology for sort of economic gain, there's always the price to bear.
[01:17:15]  And so it's like, those guys made some compromise decisions.
[01:17:20]  And is it fair?

=== Diet Smoke Break (03:04) ===

[01:17:21]  No.
[01:17:21]  But are they responsible for those decisions and the affiliations that they have?
[01:17:25]  Yeah.
[01:17:26]  Is it a compromise decision?
[01:17:28]  It depends on who you ask.
[01:17:31]  I think it's a compromise decision to maintain the power, but like buying a oil business from the government, a penny's on the dollar.
[01:17:38]  I don't think that there's anything compromising about that.
[01:17:40]  Anybody would do that.
[01:17:41]  Right.
[01:17:41]  But you also knew that this was part of the risk that eventually could come to.
[01:17:46]  Like this wasn't unforeseeable.
[01:17:48]  Didn't mean it was likely or you didn't know when.
[01:17:51]  But if you get a pit bull and it bites somebody, like you were hoping not.
[01:17:57]  You were trying to train against it.
[01:17:58]  You were planning against it.
[01:18:00]  But it doesn't mean you're not responsible for the decision that you ultimately took on.
[01:18:04]  Meaning them putting Putin in power.
[01:18:06]  Yeah.
[01:18:06]  Right.
[01:18:07]  Yeah.
[01:18:08]  Also, it's an economic war, right?
[01:18:10]  Like, I don't know if you can necessarily search for fairness in an economic war.
[01:18:13]  That's true.
[01:18:14]  All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because listen, there's nothing worse than being baked out of your mind when you didn't plan on it and you need to do shit.
[01:18:21]  And that's why diet smoke exists, okay?
[01:18:24]  When you need the perfect medium high, you got a nice little buzz.
[01:18:27]  You're moving, you're grooving, but you're not so blasted that you can't get anything done.
[01:18:32]  Diet smoke has delicious Delta VIII THC gummies.
[01:18:37]  Now, what exactly is Delta 8?
[01:18:38]  Delta 8 is simply a slightly less potent THC.
[01:18:42]  The THC that you're probably most familiar with is Delta 9.
[01:18:46]  And while both are natural to the cannabis plant, Diet Smoke extracts their Delta 8 from hemp.
[01:18:51]  Ah, I think we have a loophole.
[01:18:54]  Diet smoke is legal in most states because of this and it's non-prescription.
[01:18:58]  Now, you're probably asking yourself, does diet smoke really get you high?
[01:19:02]  Yes.
[01:19:03]  Of course it does.
[01:19:04]  The high that you get from Diet Smoke is absolutely beautiful.
[01:19:10]  Okay.
[01:19:10]  Not too much, but then again, nothing.
[01:19:13]  Sometimes we need a little buzz to get through the day.
[01:19:16]  It's somewhere between the chillness of CBD and that classic stone feeling you get with the regular weed.
[01:19:21]  What you're going to do is if you mess with diet smoke, you're going to get these gummies and each gummy is infused with 10 milligrams of Delta 8 THC.
[01:19:30]  It is derived from the American grown hemp that you know and love.
[01:19:34]  Oh, and did I mention it's legal?
[01:19:36]  So when CBD isn't enough and traditional THC is too much, enjoy the perfect medium buzz of diet smoke.
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[01:19:57]  Please use responsibly.
[01:19:58]  Now let's get back to the show.
[01:20:00]  Can I tell you as a sports fan, it's weirdly kind of justice if you are a fan of like the poor team?
[01:20:05]  Because it seems like all soccer is the richest team wins all the championships.
[01:20:08]  And I think I read Chelsea hadn't won a championship in almost 50 years.
[01:20:12]  Then this guy shows up, puts $2 billion into the team, and they won five cents since 2003.
[01:20:16]  So as like a team, if you root for like a poverty franchise, you're looking at them like, you know what?
[01:20:20]  Fuck you.
[01:20:21]  Now you know what it's like for the teams who don't have billionaires who got their money through these means.

=== Confused Young People (12:44) ===

[01:20:25]  And I know they're not the only ones.
[01:20:26]  All the good teams are like that.
[01:20:28]  But at least one team went down.
[01:20:29]  Yeah, no, I hear you.
[01:20:31]  Yeah, I don't know why.
[01:20:33]  I don't know why.
[01:20:33]  I just feel like it's, I mean, I don't know why I even care about like billionaires.
[01:20:37]  Like, you're triggered.
[01:20:39]  They're in conflict with each other.
[01:20:40]  No, it's, it's, it's, I'm not even trying to be contrarian.
[01:20:42]  I just think it's like undeserved.
[01:20:43]  It's like, it's the same reason why I don't want people shitting on like the Russian people.
[01:20:47]  It's like, they don't want to be part of this.
[01:20:49]  They want nothing to do with this.
[01:20:50]  Right, right, right.
[01:20:50]  Like when I found out like Tchaikovsky was going to be removed from this like opera or whatever, and where was it, Wales or something like that?
[01:20:58]  And I'm just like, what the fuck did Tchaikovsky have to do with any of this?
[01:21:01]  Yeah.
[01:21:02]  But Tchaikovsky didn't get Putin put in power.
[01:21:05]  You know what I mean?
[01:21:06]  If this guy was one of the guys that got Putin put in power and it's still tied to him, I'm with you on Tchaikovsky.
[01:21:12]  I understand more why Abramovich is going to get punished.
[01:21:15]  To be fair, they thought that they could.
[01:21:17]  I'm just really interested in this part of history, but they thought that they could control Putin.
[01:21:21]  And then they were wrong.
[01:21:22]  His pitbull analogy works perfectly.
[01:21:24]  The symbolic stuff is stupid, right?
[01:21:26]  Like, no, we're not using Russian composers in the symphony.
[01:21:29]  Yeah, it is.
[01:21:30]  We all agree that's like, that's dumb.
[01:21:31]  Yeah.
[01:21:31]  Performance.
[01:21:32]  Right.
[01:21:32]  They took out Poutine because it sounded like oh, yeah.
[01:21:35]  The French, well, not even French, the Quebecois, like the fries with the cheese and gravy on it.
[01:21:40]  They're not calling it Poutine anymore because it sounds too much like Putin.
[01:21:42]  But we all think that money is ultimately the thing that drives everything in the world.
[01:21:48]  So I think fighting an economic war is just like kind of getting right to the point of what we all kind of think is controlling things, anyways.
[01:21:56]  You're saying modern warfare is basically just it should be fought economically.
[01:21:59]  Yeah.
[01:22:00]  But it's like bombing a country.
[01:22:02]  Like we bombed Japan.
[01:22:03]  What did any of those people in Nagasaki have to do with World War II or whatever?
[01:22:08]  I mean, the countries that said that we're at war with one another.
[01:22:11]  Exactly.
[01:22:12]  And if the Russia's what it is.
[01:22:13]  Russia's like, yo, we're at war with Ukraine and NATO.
[01:22:15]  It's like, all right, anyone that's affiliated is involved in this economic war.
[01:22:19]  But did Russia say that yet?
[01:22:20]  Bombing the country economically.
[01:22:25]  That's a great point.
[01:22:26]  That's a great point.
[01:22:28]  It creates hardship that motivates them for making a change that's like led by the people that actually live there without being dead first.
[01:22:38]  Obviously, you know, starvation and the lack of medical supplies and all those things can be a big issue.
[01:22:43]  But if it doesn't mean it's perfect, there's no such thing, I think, as a surgical strike, really.
[01:22:49]  Yeah.
[01:22:49]  Everything has collateral damage and it's more complicated than we can imagine.
[01:22:52]  And it's better that that collateral damage exists within the billionaire class of Russian oligarchs and not just the everyday people who are barely making it.
[01:23:02]  Right.
[01:23:02]  And when we complain about, oh, well, they're just, you know, we're doing this just to try to raise the stock price or this to this.
[01:23:08]  If we all sort of, if money comes to the root of the motivations behind all the things we complain about, that if we actually have like a big escalating problem, let's just use money.
[01:23:19]  Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
[01:23:20]  Let's talk about Mr. Beast.
[01:23:22]  I'm done with fucking Russia.
[01:23:24]  I'm fucking done.
[01:23:25]  What happened to dropping nuke?
[01:23:27]  No, I still want to do it.
[01:23:29]  But I'm more primal when it comes to that kind of shit.
[01:23:31]  It's like someone's disrespecting us.
[01:23:32]  We just need to go slap something.
[01:23:33]  I understand.
[01:23:34]  And I think that, like, at the end of the day, that's what humans actually understand.
[01:23:38]  And I think that's where the fear of Putin comes from.
[01:23:41]  It's like punching down.
[01:23:42]  Yeah, punch down.
[01:23:43]  Yeah, no, but it's worth podcasting.
[01:23:45]  Punching down.
[01:23:46]  There's a reason why we do it.
[01:23:48]  It makes sense.
[01:23:48]  Like, humans react to it.
[01:23:50]  The average person who is afraid of Kim Jong-un or the average person who's afraid of Putin is literally just afraid of a guy that they think is a little crazier than them.
[01:23:58]  The crazy person wins.
[01:24:00]  And we used to be the crazy person.
[01:24:01]  Yeah, but it's something 20 years ago, we were the crazy person.
[01:24:03]  If a small comedian with a tenth of your audience comes after you, are you punching down?
[01:24:09]  I don't think that that's Russia.
[01:24:11]  I think you, I don't think, even if that is what Russia is, the world doesn't believe that's what Russia is.
[01:24:17]  Gotcha.
[01:24:17]  And I think that's the difference.
[01:24:19]  The world is like, oh, yeah, it's just China, U.S., and Russia.
[01:24:21]  And they're all bad.
[01:24:22]  And we did that.
[01:24:23]  We propped them up and we made them the bad guy in every single action movie for fucking years.
[01:24:27]  We made it seem, because they had to seem like worthy bad guys in order for us to be triumphant and heroic.
[01:24:32]  If we're punching down, then we're not heroes.
[01:24:34]  Maybe that's why they're doing this.
[01:24:35]  And maybe they saw Middle Eastern people being the new bad guys.
[01:24:37]  And they're like, fuck, we moved back in.
[01:24:38]  Forgot they steal our roles.
[01:24:42]  So that's possible.
[01:24:43]  Also, that's a way scary movie.
[01:24:44]  You have to box a fucking Middle Eastern guy.
[01:24:46]  You know why you're going to win that, bro?
[01:24:47]  Why?
[01:24:47]  Why?
[01:24:47]  Because he got box cutters.
[01:24:49]  That's what you're trying to say.
[01:24:50]  No, you got a fucking Dagestanian there.
[01:24:52]  Like, there's no fight movie with like a Khabib where Americans win.
[01:24:55]  Because they're Russian.
[01:24:57]  Khabib's Russian.
[01:24:59]  You don't want to fight a Muslim.
[01:25:00]  You know what I mean?
[01:25:01]  I want to fight someone.
[01:25:01]  I want to fight a blonde-haired white guy.
[01:25:03]  Yeah.
[01:25:04]  Put him in the ring.
[01:25:04]  I don't want to.
[01:25:05]  I mean, we've been kicking their ass in movies for a minute.
[01:25:07]  Yeah.
[01:25:07]  What do they do in their movies?
[01:25:10]  Do they take us down?
[01:25:11]  I don't know if they have movies.
[01:25:14]  I don't know.
[01:25:15]  What if people watch?
[01:25:16]  I have no idea.
[01:25:17]  Okay, Mr. Beast.
[01:25:20]  Mr. Beast is on Rogan.
[01:25:22]  And first of all, I didn't know this guy was 23 years ago.
[01:25:25]  It's crazy.
[01:25:26]  It's fucking crazy.
[01:25:27]  He's so impressive.
[01:25:28]  So impressive.
[01:25:29]  If you guys don't know who Mr. Beast is, he is the number one.
[01:25:32]  Yeah, you guys know.
[01:25:33]  Okay, fine.
[01:25:34]  But if you didn't know, he's the number one YouTube creator in the world.
[01:25:37]  I think he's got between all his accounts over 200 million followers.
[01:25:40]  He did this amazing recreation of the Squid Game.
[01:25:44]  And that was probably on your radar.
[01:25:46]  I think that was one of the first things, not the first things of him, but like one of the first things that really crossed over mainstream.
[01:25:52]  People who didn't even know YouTube barely were on it.
[01:25:55]  You heard about it.
[01:25:55]  If you know YouTube, you're watching this on YouTube.
[01:25:57]  You see Mr. Beast stuff.
[01:25:58]  He does all these amazing challenges, all these incredible videos, racking up 50 million views, 100 million views.
[01:26:04]  He recreates Squid Game, like, I mean, builds out the set.
[01:26:07]  I think he spent $4 million on it.
[01:26:08]  It gets more views than Squid Game.
[01:26:10]  Yeah.
[01:26:11]  The recreation of Squid Game got more views than Squid Game.
[01:26:15]  It's fucking unbelievable.
[01:26:16]  229 million views.
[01:26:17]  He goes on.
[01:26:18]  He's more views than I think Netflix has subscribers.
[01:26:21]  Amazing.
[01:26:21]  That's right.
[01:26:22]  Netflix has like 200 million subscribers.
[01:26:24]  So he's out there.
[01:26:26]  He goes on Rogan.
[01:26:27]  He has this great conversation on Rogan.
[01:26:28]  I haven't finished it just yet, but he is so, first of all, likable and endearing.
[01:26:34]  Incredible, man.
[01:26:35]  Like, he should be president.
[01:26:37]  I swear to God, that's the guy that I'm like, this kid should be a president.
[01:26:41]  Really?
[01:26:42]  I didn't feel that way at all.
[01:26:43]  I wouldn't felt that way.
[01:26:45]  I literally didn't get that feeling at all.
[01:26:49]  Go ahead.
[01:26:49]  He literally says at one point, I didn't even know how to talk to people.
[01:26:52]  Yeah.
[01:26:53]  Yeah.
[01:26:53]  He should only be president if the entire country is just YouTube.
[01:26:56]  Yeah.
[01:26:57]  Let him be president of entertainment.
[01:26:59]  I don't think he's negotiating like a deal with Iran.
[01:27:03]  Oh, I think if he, if he hyper-obsessed on geopolitical politics, he'd figure this shit out.
[01:27:07]  Oh, there you go.
[01:27:08]  I agree with you in that regard.
[01:27:10]  He has two things that I want from a leader.
[01:27:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:27:12]  I need a caveat.
[01:27:14]  You need a good caveat for that statement.
[01:27:15]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:27:16]  Let's lead with the ridiculous and then try to justify.
[01:27:18]  Hyper-obsessive and seemingly selfless or at least not materialistic.
[01:27:24]  When he was just like, I don't understand the point of getting money to buy a bigger box and get a bigger, I don't understand the appeal of that.
[01:27:30]  It's so dumb to me.
[01:27:32]  Me, I want the bigger box.
[01:27:33]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:27:34]  I know I shouldn't be born.
[01:27:35]  You haven't gotten robbed yet.
[01:27:36]  He got robbed, and then he was like, and that's what the robbers also felt.
[01:27:41]  You didn't need to.
[01:27:41]  No, no, no.
[01:27:42]  He said that's the only reason he moved into a nicer place is because his expensive stuff got stolen.
[01:27:47]  Then he's like, well, I don't need the nicer stuff, but I don't want my software or whatever, hardware, whatever the fuck to get stolen.
[01:27:52]  So let's get a nicer place.
[01:27:54]  But before that, and he could reinvest everything in the company.
[01:27:57]  He doesn't care about any of this shit.
[01:27:58]  He's just hyper-obsessed with YouTube.
[01:28:00]  And that's it.
[01:28:01]  Yes.
[01:28:01]  And that's the kind of guy that I'm like, this is so impressive.
[01:28:04]  He's not into all this other shit.
[01:28:06]  He doesn't see.
[01:28:07]  Didn't you tell me he took a three-year valve of celibacy?
[01:28:09]  Yeah, I think for the thing he said on Colin Samir.
[01:28:11]  He was like, yeah, I just hit up my boys and we're like, yeah, we're just not dating or having sex or going after women.
[01:28:16]  We're just focused on this.
[01:28:17]  When he's focused on a thing, that's all there is.
[01:28:20]  I love that.
[01:28:21]  Mine was more, you know, involuntary, but I love a person that's like, when I set a goal, that's it.
[01:28:26]  There's nothing stopping me.
[01:28:27]  Yeah.
[01:28:28]  It made me think focused young people are always undefeated.
[01:28:30]  Like you, like listening to that episode, I saw such a generational gap between Rogan and him.
[01:28:39]  And like Rogan was confused and he was confused.
[01:28:42]  He was confused about Rogan's sort of movie references.
[01:28:45]  And Rogan was kind of like confused.
[01:28:46]  Wait.
[01:28:47]  You bought an island?
[01:28:48]  Yeah.
[01:28:49]  That's my.
[01:28:49]  And they have a kind of mutual.
[01:28:51]  One, it made me think of like how antiquated the idea of mainstream media is as a term.
[01:28:56]  Like these are the two biggest media figures right now.
[01:29:00]  YouTube's a bigger platform than Netflix.
[01:29:03]  Yeah.
[01:29:03]  Yeah.
[01:29:04]  Podcasting is a bigger thing than television.
[01:29:07]  Here's the two Titans of this industry.
[01:29:09]  And even they don't have this like shared worldview about the media landscape.
[01:29:14]  But when we think about the future, I think it is people like Mr. Beast.
[01:29:17]  Just, oh, shit, we have young people that can just figure this out on their own, be completely tied into the analytics, get data back and just grow their audience, reinvest.
[01:29:28]  Like it made me very bullish on, I bought more Google stock when I heard that interview.
[01:29:34]  It's like they, Google or YouTube already makes more money than Netflix.
[01:29:38]  Yeah.
[01:29:39]  And they got people like this that they don't have to risk.
[01:29:42]  There's no risk to finding the next Mr. Beast.
[01:29:45]  Yeah.
[01:29:46]  YouTube's not paying him.
[01:29:47]  They're just allowing him.
[01:29:49]  Yeah.
[01:29:49]  And he's coming up.
[01:29:50]  And he's a bigger star than anyone Netflix has.
[01:29:52]  Yeah.
[01:29:53]  They had to lose money on that stupid Leonardo DiCaprio movie just so they could say we have DiCaprio on the platform.
[01:29:59]  Yeah.
[01:30:00]  Mr. Beast is way bigger and they didn't pay him anything.
[01:30:03]  And he's like not even in his prime yet.
[01:30:06]  Yeah.
[01:30:06]  What's that guy going to be doing 10 years from now?
[01:30:08]  Yeah, he's only 23 years old.
[01:30:10]  Yeah.
[01:30:11]  I mean, you got to the part where he said every day for a year, basically from like 7 a.m. till 10 p.m., all he did was study YouTube.
[01:30:15]  Didn't put out a single thing.
[01:30:16]  Yeah.
[01:30:17]  And he said something interesting within that was like him and like four of his friends.
[01:30:20]  Yeah.
[01:30:20]  And friends and putting a quote.
[01:30:22]  I guess he's met these people on the internet and they basically were just studying YouTube videos.
[01:30:26]  What works?
[01:30:27]  I think they looked at like every YouTube video that got over 10,000 views and they're like, why is this getting more than 10,000?
[01:30:32]  Like how often are they doing angle changes?
[01:30:34]  Like dissected every single part of the video making process to see like what was successful.
[01:30:40]  And I'm sure they've done that a million times over.
[01:30:42]  But he said something really interesting.
[01:30:43]  He's like, you learn from your failures.
[01:30:45]  And let's say you fail 20 times in a year, right?
[01:30:48]  If you have five other friends that are also creating the same stuff, they're also going to fail 20 times.
[01:30:54]  Now you, and if you actually share information with one another, you failed 100 times in that one year.
[01:30:59]  You've lived five years of failures in one year.
[01:31:01]  So you're exponentially increasing your ability to succeed.
[01:31:06]  And it was just really cool to see him put it like that.
[01:31:08]  Think of it as generational evolution, right?
[01:31:10]  So like Rogan sort of uses YouTube to help blow up his podcast.
[01:31:14]  Yeah.
[01:31:15]  But he's not really thinking about it.
[01:31:16]  And then you're kind of watching that and you're using YouTube intentionally to grow your podcast.
[01:31:21]  And then you leverage it and get the sort of show on Netflix and play around and do these other things.
[01:31:26]  He's a generation younger than you.
[01:31:28]  Yeah.
[01:31:29]  And he's saying like, oh.
[01:31:31]  He doesn't want to do a Netflix show.
[01:31:33]  Yeah.
[01:31:33]  YouTube is prestige for him, whereas your generation is still a little bit like, like, we want to use YouTube as a, as a tool, not as an end goal.
[01:31:41]  Yes.
[01:31:42]  He's 100% all in because it's like he sees it as the prestigious platform because that's all he watched growing up.
[01:31:48]  It's all his friends watched growing up.
[01:31:50]  So his motivations for both growth and endgame are all tied into one platform.
[01:31:55]  So he has like one target and just like slams away just hitting that one target and it's crushing it.
[01:32:01]  And to clarify our position, I think that YouTube is the end goal.
[01:32:06]  But I recognize that people my age and around my age don't realize that yet.
[01:32:12]  So doing something like Netflix is like getting that kind of like blue check because it allows people around our age to go, oh yeah, they're really doing it.
[01:32:20]  It's validation for people.
[01:32:22]  Yeah, a lot of people are age who aren't trying to stay relevant.
[01:32:25]  And if those are the rules of the game, not the rules, but if that's how people see stuff and they're hardwired almost to see it like that, they kind of have to do it in order to take them over.
[01:32:32]  Now that they see that little validation from Netflix, they come to all of our YouTube stuff and they go, oh, this is awesome.
[01:32:37]  I love that.
[01:32:37]  Oh, yeah, that's the Netflix guy.
[01:32:39]  I love the freedom that his generation has where they see YouTube as the validator.
[01:32:44]  They see a million subscribers as the validator.
[01:32:47]  And they're just like, this is where it is.
[01:32:48]  I don't even know what fucking channel the ABC is on or whatever.
[01:32:52]  Like this is, I mean, that was what changed it all for me.
[01:32:54]  I remember my nephew say, I asked him to put the game on and he was like, what channel is it?
[01:32:59]  I go, ABC.
[01:32:59]  And he goes, what channel is that?
[01:33:01]  Yeah.
[01:33:02]  Yeah.
[01:33:02]  Young people are undefeated when it comes to predicting culture.
[01:33:05]  They're always going to get.
[01:33:06]  Yeah.
[01:33:07]  They drive culture and they have unlimited time.

=== Food Kitchen Threshold (12:17) ===

[01:33:09]  Yeah.
[01:33:10]  Like if you really think about it, when you're young, you feel like you have so much responsibility and so much shit to do, but you're really at school from, I don't know, what is it, like eight?
[01:33:18]  When do you have to be a student?
[01:33:19]  8 a.m. to 3 p.m.
[01:33:21]  It's eight?
[01:33:21]  I was about to say 10.
[01:33:23]  I had no fucking clue.
[01:33:24]  No, eight to three, right?
[01:33:27]  Yeah.
[01:33:28]  You're eight to three.
[01:33:30]  There's so much time in the day to just spend fucking editing, doing absolutely nothing.
[01:33:35]  Like we spend it playing football outside of my apartment or like playing basketball, do that kind of shit.
[01:33:39]  But what if editing videos is your football?
[01:33:42]  Right.
[01:33:43]  Like back in the day, editing was so fucking time consuming, dude.
[01:33:47]  Like I had Final Cut as a kid and just waiting for the video tapes to convert over.
[01:33:53]  It was just, forget it.
[01:33:54]  It was so much fucking time.
[01:33:56]  Now what these kids are able to do, it's unbelievable.
[01:33:58]  Why would you not go all in on it?
[01:34:00]  They are.
[01:34:01]  I mean, yeah.
[01:34:03]  I mean, that's an occupation now that kids want to be.
[01:34:05]  Like if you ask, right?
[01:34:06]  Yeah.
[01:34:06]  It's like YouTuber is the thing.
[01:34:08]  And it blows my mind that you guys ever had to deal with a generation where you were a YouTube comedian or that you were a YouTube performer or that you were any like YouTube was the like the antecedent for anything or the precedent for any word.
[01:34:20]  Like it's just insane.
[01:34:21]  That was the thing that was.
[01:34:22]  YouTuber is celebrity the way actor was celebrity.
[01:34:25]  Like if you said I want to be an actor, celebrity was just intrinsically in that.
[01:34:28]  YouTuber, it wasn't.
[01:34:29]  For these kids, YouTuber intrinsically means celebrity if you're big enough.
[01:34:33]  Like you just assume, oh, big YouTuber, that's a celebrity.
[01:34:35]  I really wonder how many of these celebrity actors now, like how many outside of maybe the people on Euphoria, and even them, we can only name a few of them by name.
[01:34:49]  Yeah.
[01:34:50]  Like actors are not common knowledge.
[01:34:53]  Yeah.
[01:34:53]  Isn't that crazy?
[01:34:54]  Yeah.
[01:34:55]  No.
[01:34:56]  Like think about a show that we're all watching.
[01:35:00]  Can we name the actors on the show outside of Zendaya?
[01:35:02]  And I don't even know Zendaya's last name.
[01:35:04]  And I think she's fucking brilliant.
[01:35:05]  Yeah.
[01:35:06]  Does she have last names?
[01:35:07]  She goes by Zendaya.
[01:35:08]  I don't think she puts it out there.
[01:35:09]  Okay.
[01:35:09]  But yeah.
[01:35:11]  If they've crossed over to movies, movies are still a fucking thing.
[01:35:14]  Tom Holland, Zendaya.
[01:35:16]  You know what I mean?
[01:35:17]  Are they a thing?
[01:35:18]  They're movie stars.
[01:35:19]  Are they a thing?
[01:35:20]  Marvel movies.
[01:35:21]  Marvel's a thing.
[01:35:23]  I saw Batman.
[01:35:24]  Batman.
[01:35:25]  Okay.
[01:35:26]  But these are old franchises that we're bringing up.
[01:35:28]  And even the new Marvel, I don't even think people are watching like that.
[01:35:32]  What movie movie?
[01:35:34]  That is brand new are people going out for?
[01:35:36]  I mean, are they still going to see The Rock?
[01:35:38]  Like The Rock did that thing where he was on a boat in the jungle, jungle boat?
[01:35:41]  Did people go see it?
[01:35:42]  Maybe.
[01:35:43]  I don't know.
[01:35:43]  I don't know.
[01:35:45]  Like, I know the old franchises that are grandfathered in Fast and Furious, that kind of stuff.
[01:35:49]  Yeah, people are seeing.
[01:35:51]  That's why they need to reboot because we're the ones still going to see movies and they need to appeal to us.
[01:35:55]  Yeah.
[01:35:56]  Jumaji, that's familiar.
[01:35:57]  I'll go see that.
[01:35:57]  100%.
[01:35:58]  That's why they're remaking the same shit because it needs to tap into our nostalgia.
[01:36:02]  Yeah.
[01:36:02]  Batman, run it back.
[01:36:03]  Spider-Man, run it back.
[01:36:04]  Don't give me no new fucking superheroes.
[01:36:06]  These kids aren't going to go do it.
[01:36:08]  They're watching all their shit on YouTube or what's it called?
[01:36:10]  Netflix anyway.
[01:36:11]  So not watching movies is cool.
[01:36:13]  I told you guys.
[01:36:14]  I told you.
[01:36:14]  It was long enough.
[01:36:15]  You know what I mean?
[01:36:16]  I was just starting that.
[01:36:17]  That's why I didn't watch movies.
[01:36:22]  How much validation did you feel for all the things you've picked up?
[01:36:24]  Finally, dude.
[01:36:25]  No, I don't know.
[01:36:26]  I just like, I just love Mr. Beast.
[01:36:28]  Like, his dedication to it and the fact that he started in North Carolina and stays there.
[01:36:32]  Stayed there.
[01:36:33]  And like, they have employees that are coming from LA and New York to North Carolina to just work on what he's doing.
[01:36:38]  And the way that he's masterminded all the sets and all the production, like logistically incredible.
[01:36:44]  And then the way the data powers it.
[01:36:45]  It's just like.
[01:36:46]  Have you gotten to the food kitchen and all that shit?
[01:36:48]  Yeah.
[01:36:49]  I'm familiar with it, but not from you.
[01:36:51]  He's a food kitchen that he puts up in cities that don't necessarily have.
[01:36:54]  He says, big cities, everybody gets food kitchens in the big, or every big city is a food kitchen.
[01:36:58]  I go to cities where there's not a food kitchen necessarily and they don't have access to it.
[01:37:01]  And we feed like 200 people every two weeks, 200 families, and we give them good quality food.
[01:37:05]  And then he talked about Beast Burgers and his candy bars.
[01:37:07]  And he was like, I want them to be healthy.
[01:37:09]  Nobody's going to buy them.
[01:37:10]  So I just make them as not shitty as possible for you.
[01:37:14]  But like to be 23 years old and legitimately thinking like, I don't care about my personal gain beyond this YouTube thing growing.
[01:37:21]  I just want to help as many people as possible outside of that.
[01:37:23]  It's just fucking, it blows me away that a 23-year-old is like that.
[01:37:27]  I've never seen a kid like that in my life.
[01:37:29]  Maturity.
[01:37:30]  There was so much joy to think.
[01:37:32]  Like it was all that excitable.
[01:37:35]  It wasn't like, I'm going to prove everyone wrong.
[01:37:37]  Yeah.
[01:37:37]  And it was, it, it made me hopeful that it wasn't like that Michael Jordan motivation.
[01:37:42]  Yes.
[01:37:42]  Where it's like, I got chip on my shoulder.
[01:37:44]  I'm a dick to everybody.
[01:37:46]  Have to like put my teammates down.
[01:37:48]  It was the exact opposite of that.
[01:37:50]  Yeah.
[01:37:50]  It was like, oh, I have this awesome team.
[01:37:53]  This person that runs the food kitchen, he's amazing.
[01:37:55]  He usually get a lot of credit.
[01:37:57]  And if he's like the biggest thing for that generation on the biggest platform, like it's fucking great.
[01:38:03]  That's great.
[01:38:04]  Yeah.
[01:38:04]  That's great.
[01:38:05]  This is the first time there's a GOAT that you're like, yo, I want my kid to be like this.
[01:38:08]  Yeah.
[01:38:09]  On and off the platform of what we wanted child actors to be.
[01:38:12]  Yes.
[01:38:14]  It's just better when we let him figure it out themselves.
[01:38:16]  And I also didn't realize he had Crohn's disease.
[01:38:18]  Yeah.
[01:38:18]  Like that's the thing that he brings up.
[01:38:20]  I had no idea.
[01:38:20]  Like he has this disease that like, I don't really understand all of it, but like it's basically like an intestinal issue that like just causes you to be like lethargic, like causes you to have like intestinal pain, like all this, all these things that would, you would think, counteract all the stuff he puts out.
[01:38:36]  Like the amount of work and time that goes into creating this stuff.
[01:38:38]  But he just pushes through and doesn't use that as like an adversity he's overcome.
[01:38:42]  He's like, yeah, it's just this thing I have.
[01:38:44]  I just thought it was so cool.
[01:38:46]  Is he the coolest like normal looking young person ever?
[01:38:50]  He's not like Logan's kind of like a big jacked athletic kid.
[01:38:53]  He was like the football player at the high school.
[01:38:56]  Yeah.
[01:38:57]  This guy is so kind of just nondescripting.
[01:39:01]  Yeah.
[01:39:02]  And he's the biggest thing in media.
[01:39:03]  So that's.
[01:39:05]  Well, that's the thing about the biggest thing in media is so interesting to me because to me, he's the biggest thing on YouTube.
[01:39:13]  But if you're not on YouTube, you don't even know who Mr. Beast is.
[01:39:16]  Yeah.
[01:39:16]  And the Squid Game thing was the first time where I think he crossed over, where I think like traditional media was doing, was having like conversations about Mr. Beast.
[01:39:25]  Like if you're in YouTube like us, you love this guy.
[01:39:27]  This guy's a genius.
[01:39:28]  My parents don't know who he is.
[01:39:30]  My parents know who Rogan is.
[01:39:32]  So there is a threshold that he would need to cross to become ubiquitous.
[01:39:37]  Well, I would say the threshold is if you have one version of your show that's four times bigger than the Super Bowl, an audience, that's the threshold.
[01:39:45]  I don't think so.
[01:39:47]  What is it?
[01:39:47]  I think it's, I think what happens is eventually the old people age out and they just die.
[01:39:53]  And then his audience just becomes what media is.
[01:39:57]  But what's quite interesting is that he doesn't feel like he needs to jump outside of the YouTube space.
[01:40:02]  Like he's all in on the YouTube space.
[01:40:04]  I'm going to create content that's great for YouTube and I'm not going to, he could parody every big show.
[01:40:08]  He could parody Euphoria.
[01:40:09]  He could parody every single one and get crazy views, but he's not chasing it.
[01:40:12]  And I think there's something really interesting about it.
[01:40:14]  Because if you notice what happened when he did something outside the YouTube space, the Squid Game thing was the biggest thing he's ever done by far.
[01:40:20]  Yeah.
[01:40:21]  Right?
[01:40:21]  So what does that mean?
[01:40:22]  That means that people who aren't used to watching him watched.
[01:40:25]  Yeah.
[01:40:26]  And that was the first thing I saw.
[01:40:29]  I remember being shot.
[01:40:30]  I would hear you talking about him, and I assumed it was some 40-year-old kind of douchey guy, calls himself Mr. Beast.
[01:40:35]  And I saw this like adorable kid.
[01:40:37]  I was like, what the fuck?
[01:40:38]  This is Mr. Beast?
[01:40:39]  Yeah.
[01:40:39]  And that's how I found out who he was.
[01:40:40]  Because if you're not plugged into YouTube, like, I'm out of touch.
[01:40:44]  I have no problem admitting that.
[01:40:45]  And our parents don't give a fuck about scrolling YouTube.
[01:40:47]  Viewership is so compartmentalized.
[01:40:49]  Yes.
[01:40:49]  That the biggest person on YouTube can be completely anonymous to people who aren't watching YouTube.
[01:40:55]  That tracks.
[01:40:56]  And especially because he's creating content that isn't based on controversy.
[01:41:01]  If you're creating content around controversy, then naturally, like Rogan, you're going to be picked up by the mainstream media.
[01:41:07]  They're going to be reacting to your stuff.
[01:41:08]  What is CNN ever going to be upset about?
[01:41:10]  Yeah.
[01:41:11]  Him doing.
[01:41:11]  What is Fox News ever going to be upset about him doing?
[01:41:14]  He's not coming out here.
[01:41:15]  He's not going, hey, these are my views, and you should be judged if you don't feel the exact same way about this issue.
[01:41:21]  He's just going, this is going to be the most watchable thing on the fucking planet this week.
[01:41:25]  And it is.
[01:41:26]  Yeah.
[01:41:27]  Sorry, you said something.
[01:41:28]  You said mainstream media and something you brought up earlier.
[01:41:30]  We're the last group of people that's going to call that mainstream media.
[01:41:32]  Yeah, it's dead, huh?
[01:41:33]  Yeah.
[01:41:34]  We keep calling it mainstream media.
[01:41:35]  But like you said, Rogan gets more views than all his news networks.
[01:41:38]  Beast gets more views than every TV show that's ever existed.
[01:41:41]  They're mainstream media.
[01:41:42]  We just have these old terms that we've latched on to.
[01:41:45]  Mainstream media is CNN.
[01:41:47]  No, it's not.
[01:41:47]  Mainstream media is Rogan.
[01:41:49]  Mainstream media is legacy media.
[01:41:52]  Yeah, legacy media and modern media.
[01:41:55]  Those are the terms.
[01:41:56]  Yeah.
[01:41:57]  Because modern media is Mr. Beast and Rogan.
[01:41:59]  Yeah.
[01:42:00]  The views versus fame thing, we're going to have to eventually separate more.
[01:42:03]  Because it's like, well, I think one of the most viewed YouTube videos for a while was The Evolution of Dance, which I think it was a comedian.
[01:42:10]  Yeah.
[01:42:10]  But nobody knows the name of the guy, right?
[01:42:12]  Do you guys know the name of the guy?
[01:42:13]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:42:14]  He had a concept for a video that did a billion, I think it did a billion views.
[01:42:18]  Yeah.
[01:42:19]  But nobody knows his name.
[01:42:20]  So he might have created the most viewed comedy clip of all time, yet he has achieved no fame out of those views.
[01:42:29]  One, it wasn't marginal.
[01:42:30]  So it's kind of like being a one-hit wonder musician, right?
[01:42:33]  You could have the biggest song.
[01:42:34]  We don't hear about you beyond that.
[01:42:35]  So whatever.
[01:42:36]  Or we don't even know your name.
[01:42:37]  We just know the song.
[01:42:38]  Yes.
[01:42:38]  And that's essentially what's happening here.
[01:42:40]  Right.
[01:42:40]  So what I think is interesting about Mr. Beast is like, we think of the Super Bowl as such a big event because like 50 million people or whatever watch it.
[01:42:48]  He's got a lot of videos this year that did 50 million views.
[01:42:50]  All of them.
[01:42:51]  Yeah.
[01:42:52]  All of them.
[01:42:52]  That's insane.
[01:42:54]  Yeah.
[01:42:55]  But since he's done it over and over again, he is famous.
[01:42:58]  We just, again, we don't attach celebrity to YouTube.
[01:43:02]  Kids who grew up with YouTube do.
[01:43:04]  They get it.
[01:43:05]  The funny thing about being in touch is just when you're young, like I said, you are culture.
[01:43:10]  You define it.
[01:43:10]  So you're in it.
[01:43:11]  And then as you get older, it just stops.
[01:43:13]  Now younger people are defining culture.
[01:43:15]  So you're just more and more out of touch as you get older and older.
[01:43:17]  We're old enough that we don't think of these guys as celebrities.
[01:43:20]  They do.
[01:43:21]  I'm trying to figure out what the difference between the Super Bowl and a Mr. Beast video are and why you can charge so much more money.
[01:43:29]  Well, it's one that's like focused and centralized.
[01:43:31]  So like Mr. Beast gets 200 million views from around the globe, whereas the Super Bowl gets 50 million in America.
[01:43:37]  And I thought that's a global.
[01:43:39]  I mean, granted, you have marginal numbers, but like I think there's probably more people in India watching Mr. Beast in the Super Bowl.
[01:43:44]  They don't have the same access in India to the Super Bowl necessarily.
[01:43:47]  YouTube is right.
[01:43:48]  Granted, there's global numbers, but like the focus and concentration of it is in America.
[01:43:51]  And the Super Bowl, you kind of need to see live.
[01:43:54]  You can watch it record it, but it doesn't feel the same.
[01:43:56]  And think about sports podcasts that then create content talking about the Super Bowl that also gets...
[01:44:01]  So there's a greater trickle-down effect.
[01:44:03]  Whereas ESPN doesn't host the Super Bowl, but they're still probably driving 20 to 30 million views that week talking about the Super Bowl.
[01:44:11]  So it's like the there's way more opportunities for parasite media to kind of latch onto the Super Bowl and create around it.
[01:44:19]  Whereas a few other YouTubers will talk about squid games.
[01:44:22]  Do you think there is a future where parasite media shows up for a Mr. Beast video?
[01:44:27]  And I'm shocked there's not a podcast.
[01:44:31]  They already have it for Rogan.
[01:44:33]  Yeah, they have a podcast.
[01:44:35]  It's like the Rogan review.
[01:44:37]  And every episode that drops, the next day there's a Rogan review and these guys talk about the episode.
[01:44:40]  I mean, if I was a young kid, there's pages about some podcasts.
[01:44:45]  If I was a young kid that I was invested 100% in Mr. Beast content, I would absolutely do reaction video every single one.
[01:44:57]  You know, oh, yeah.
[01:44:58]  And that would blow.
[01:44:59]  So, I mean, you have the Philip DeFrancos of the world that are doing that with like YouTube in general and like culture in general, but specifically YouTube culture.
[01:45:05]  Colin Samir kind of do it a little bit.
[01:45:07]  Yeah, a little bit.
[01:45:08]  But then eventually I think you'll probably have more as they get bigger and there's more of a market for it.
[01:45:12]  I think the market will answer the demand.
[01:45:13]  And eventually you'll have someone whose sole focus is just reaction.
[01:45:16]  But there's also, I don't know if he puts out content frequently enough to have one person subsisting on just his content.
[01:45:23]  Oh, I thought he was doing it weekly.
[01:45:24]  No, I don't think it's weekly.

=== Election Fraud TikTok (08:32) ===

[01:45:26]  No, he's not.
[01:45:27]  And he says, I have no problem.
[01:45:28]  This is also fucking great.
[01:45:29]  He's like, I have no problem scrapping a video.
[01:45:31]  That separates me from everybody I think else is no matter how much work we put into it or how much money we put into it, if it's not great, I'm out.
[01:45:38]  It's done.
[01:45:39]  Which is fucking fired.
[01:45:41]  But think how many years Disney had to get to, I guess they acquired Pixar, but how fucking like that's a legacy company.
[01:45:48]  This kid is 23 and he's putting millions of dollars into something.
[01:45:51]  And be like, you know what?
[01:45:52]  No.
[01:45:53]  Crazy, man.
[01:45:54]  He impressed me so thoroughly as a 23-year-old to have that head on his shoulders.
[01:45:59]  I was blown away by this kid.
[01:46:00]  Yeah.
[01:46:01]  Yeah, it was amazing.
[01:46:04]  Yeah, no, I wonder what happens with him.
[01:46:06]  Now, speaking of YouTube world, Donald Trump appeared on Nelk Boys, full Simpa, and then it got pulled off YouTube.
[01:46:12]  How many views did it before it got pulled off?
[01:46:14]  Five million?
[01:46:14]  Like five million?
[01:46:15]  24 hours.
[01:46:17]  Yeah.
[01:46:18]  I mean, for misinformation.
[01:46:22]  Immediately.
[01:46:22]  Apparently, YouTube pulled it off because Trump claimed that the election was fraudulent.
[01:46:26]  Yeah.
[01:46:26]  And YouTube has an anti-like election, like they have an election integrity policy that he broke.
[01:46:34]  So that's why I got pulled off.
[01:46:36]  I wonder if he can use a little bit more specific language to get away with that.
[01:46:40]  Because he could say there was fraud in the election because there's fraud in every election.
[01:46:45]  Yeah.
[01:46:46]  He just can't say that the fraud changed the results.
[01:46:51]  Do you know what I'm saying?
[01:46:53]  Every election, right?
[01:46:54]  Think about it.
[01:46:55]  Like every election, there's going to be some like an old lady that writes in her husband that just passed away his vote as well.
[01:47:02]  Yeah.
[01:47:02]  So that technically is fraud.
[01:47:04]  Yeah.
[01:47:05]  It's just not enough to actually overturn an election.
[01:47:07]  I'm not saying I'm right.
[01:47:08]  I want you to tell me why I'm wrong.
[01:47:10]  Yeah.
[01:47:10]  There was a lot of left-wing people who said the Trump election was kind of stolen because the only reason Trump won is Russian misinformation and Russian bots, et cetera, or whatever that word is.
[01:47:20]  How is that different and how is that acceptable?
[01:47:23]  If you said that, would you still get pulled off?
[01:47:25]  Ooh, that's a good one.
[01:47:27]  Hey, that's good.
[01:47:28]  Because if so, and this is the, I don't necessarily think free speech should always be allowed.
[01:47:32]  You can't say, I'm going to kill the president and get away with it.
[01:47:35]  That should be punished.
[01:47:36]  Well, but I guess the only thing I would say to that is those people were influenced by information, but they still voted.
[01:47:43]  I think what Trump is saying is that there were fake votes that were sent in.
[01:47:47]  And those are different things.
[01:47:48]  Like influencing someone into voting, it's like, yeah, you found, I guess, a loophole in the system.
[01:47:53]  But at the same time, like Russia can send a million videos saying how awesome a candidate is.
[01:47:58]  If you don't get up off your ass and go vote, then I think it's also the difference between saying the referees didn't do a good job and that team didn't win that game.
[01:48:08]  Like Trump sort of goes after the actual outcome, being like, this is illegitimate outcome.
[01:48:14]  He says the game was fixed as opposed to the refs had a refs sucked.
[01:48:18]  Yeah.
[01:48:18]  I mean, that shit was getting taken down no matter what.
[01:48:20]  Yeah.
[01:48:21]  Yeah, there's no question.
[01:48:22]  It's just wild times like that that even happens.
[01:48:25]  Yeah.
[01:48:26]  I mean, he's a president.
[01:48:27]  I mean, there was ex-president.
[01:48:29]  Have you seen any of the clips?
[01:48:30]  Yeah.
[01:48:30]  Have you seen the clip of him talking about how he's like a good DJ?
[01:48:34]  Yeah, the YMCA shit.
[01:48:35]  Yeah, you know what gets the people going?
[01:48:36]  YMCA.
[01:48:38]  The gay national anthem.
[01:48:39]  He called it the gay national anthem.
[01:48:42]  Yeah, isn't this the most energetic?
[01:48:43]  He's off on the windmills.
[01:48:45]  He's like, oh, these windmills.
[01:48:46]  Why are they building these windmills?
[01:48:47]  What's the point of these windmills?
[01:48:48]  I tell them all the time, they don't work.
[01:48:49]  They're ugly, but these people love the windmill.
[01:48:51]  It's like there's a war happening.
[01:48:52]  He's just waxing about windmills.
[01:48:54]  This is amazing.
[01:48:55]  It's so funny.
[01:48:56]  Yeah.
[01:48:56]  Yeah.
[01:48:57]  I wonder.
[01:48:59]  You see this conversation happen all the time.
[01:49:01]  It's like, does Russia invade Ukraine if Trump is still president?
[01:49:06]  I think so.
[01:49:09]  Yeah, I don't remember Trump having a real, I've heard he did a good job with China, kind of checking China, but I did not hear that about Russia.
[01:49:18]  I would hear kind of the opposite.
[01:49:19]  Again, who knows what side I'm hearing information from?
[01:49:21]  Yeah.
[01:49:22]  It's very safe to say that I don't know.
[01:49:24]  And I don't think any of us know.
[01:49:26]  We might find out.
[01:49:29]  I don't think until we know fully why Russia invaded and what the exact reason was, like in five years, will we know if they would do it when Trump is president?
[01:49:35]  Like if it's just desperation, they're going to do it no matter who's fear of NATO expansionism, like that was happening regardless.
[01:49:41]  So it might have just happened anyway.
[01:49:42]  If it was like, if it's these biolabs or whatever, like Russia is alleging, like that was still going on.
[01:49:48]  So maybe it would have happened.
[01:49:49]  Yeah.
[01:49:49]  It's like, I don't know.
[01:49:50]  We can't know until we know what the actual motivation is.
[01:49:52]  And you have to understand what Trump's policy would be in the area, right?
[01:49:56]  So if Trump is like, yo, cut this NATO expansion out, then there might not be any reason for Putin to get to work.
[01:50:04]  Who knows?
[01:50:06]  Yeah, Melkboys have been doing a good job.
[01:50:09]  Yeah.
[01:50:10]  Been doing a really good job.
[01:50:11]  They're plugged in.
[01:50:11]  And I think they do it all without any monetization directly from AdSense on.
[01:50:16]  So they're just doing it for the merch business.
[01:50:17]  Yeah.
[01:50:18]  Interesting.
[01:50:19]  Really crazy.
[01:50:20]  Wow.
[01:50:21]  Yeah, because I think they got their monetization removed.
[01:50:24]  Yeah.
[01:50:25]  Because they're wild boys.
[01:50:26]  Yeah, they're wild boys.
[01:50:27]  Yes, they are.
[01:50:28]  Yeah, they've been doing a good job, like getting really like marquee guests at the right time.
[01:50:34]  Like they had Antonio Brown right in the middle of that whole scandal.
[01:50:37]  Like they keep having, and they keep like using these relationships that they already have built up and working them brilliantly, like getting Dana White on there.
[01:50:46]  Like, I mean, it's just, yeah, they're doing a great job.
[01:50:50]  Something I'm curious about, how come the White House hasn't briefed us about the war in Ukraine?
[01:50:54]  We're not important enough.
[01:50:55]  They've been briefing everyone else.
[01:50:56]  They're briefing all these TikTokers, but they haven't even known that we got it down.
[01:51:00]  Ah, that one we're saying nuke everyone.
[01:51:03]  Yeah.
[01:51:03]  They're like, all right.
[01:51:04]  They're like, yeah, that's what we were going to tell the TikTokers.
[01:51:05]  Yeah, they're keeping it up.
[01:51:06]  Yeah.
[01:51:07]  Maybe they should call us to talk to the TikTokers.
[01:51:09]  Maybe.
[01:51:10]  I think we should be on the phone with Addison Ray and be like, hey, listen, push the button.
[01:51:13]  All right.
[01:51:14]  We got to do the nuke challenge.
[01:51:15]  What are we going to do?
[01:51:16]  I saw that, though.
[01:51:16]  Like, when I saw that they were like briefing the TikTokers and shit like that, my immediate reaction was like, ugh, how nice would it be to learn on this on TikTok?
[01:51:25]  Like, I want it on TikTok.
[01:51:27]  100%.
[01:51:28]  Give me a great idea.
[01:51:30]  Yeah.
[01:51:30]  And it's kind of the only way to fight the propaganda war because you know the other side is going to put out their shit.
[01:51:35]  So you got to tell your people, hey, here's what the deal is.
[01:51:38]  Get it out to how many a billion people on TikTok?
[01:51:41]  Yeah.
[01:51:42]  Or do you want us to watch Gen Saki on CNN at 2 p.m.?
[01:51:46]  It's not happening.
[01:51:47]  Yo, you got to adapt.
[01:51:49]  Adapt and get, hey, let's get the information out however it gets out.
[01:51:53]  Yeah, 100%.
[01:51:54]  Why would you say no to it?
[01:51:55]  It just sounds so ridiculous.
[01:51:57]  It sounds embarrassing, but we are embarrassing as a culture.
[01:52:00]  Culture tends to be embarrassing.
[01:52:02]  There's this kid who breaks down like historical events, but he does them kind of sarcastically on TikTok.
[01:52:09]  And it's great.
[01:52:10]  I feel like I'm learning about it.
[01:52:12]  It's just like the best teacher ever.
[01:52:14]  And I feel like I'm learning about this thing that happened in American history.
[01:52:17]  And he's breaking it down.
[01:52:18]  And I'm kind of like laughing at it.
[01:52:19]  And I'm like, yeah, this should be all learning.
[01:52:21]  It's Hamilton.
[01:52:21]  This is what happens when America doesn't control the platform.
[01:52:24]  It's like back when America controls the platform, they're like, all right, let's call up Dorsey, call up Zuckerberg, and like, we'll brief them on the war in Ukraine.
[01:52:30]  And now that China's running, they're like, we got to tell the content creators, tell them how to run it because the U.S. companies we can do at the algorithmic level.
[01:52:37]  See this.
[01:52:38]  You do it the right way.
[01:52:38]  This, that.
[01:52:39]  China's not telling their influencers how to do it.
[01:52:41]  They're like, yeah, this is what they're going to do.
[01:52:42]  It's like doing brand deals versus just promoting rankings.
[01:52:44]  Now we have to integrate it directly into the person speaking.
[01:52:48]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:52:49]  And so that's how we have to influence it through the manual algorithm of the creators.
[01:52:52]  We can just turn up the knobs.
[01:52:54]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:52:54]  Okay, let's do some Philly's facts and let's get the fuck out of here.
[01:52:57]  All right.
[01:52:58]  Tom Brady has officially unretired.
[01:53:00]  Actually, I have an idea.
[01:53:01]  Okay.
[01:53:02]  We've put in enough time.
[01:53:04]  Okay.
[01:53:05]  Why don't we save that for an episode later in the week?
[01:53:09]  Okay.
[01:53:10]  Oh, okay.
[01:53:11]  I like where this is going.
[01:53:13]  You know, we've been putting out, it seems, an extra episode every single week.
[01:53:18]  So maybe we'll have a little discussion about this and that will be out by Thursday.
[01:53:21]  Ooh.
[01:53:22]  Okay.
[01:53:24]  If Reeva's still here, if America's still around.
[01:53:26]  If America's still around, we will discuss Tom Brady.
[01:53:29]  If we have a country by then, let's see.
[01:53:31]  And if we don't, then there won't be any comeback.
[01:53:33]  So this is perfect.
[01:53:35]  Stay retired.
[01:53:36]  There we go.
[01:53:36]  Guys, that's been an episode of Flagrant 2.
[01:53:39]  Make sure you check out Ben Uyeda.
[01:53:40]  Okay, you can check him out on YouTube, Instagram, anywhere else, Ben.
[01:53:44]  Those are the places.
[01:53:45]  Pinterest, modern builds.
[01:53:47]  That's where all the asshole army is.
[01:53:49]  Gang!
[01:53:50]  Modern builds, right?
[01:53:51]  Oh, that's my boy, Mike.
[01:53:52]  Okay, my bad.
[01:53:54]  Check out Mike, too.
[01:53:54]  Just give everyone a shot.
[01:53:55]  But check out Mike as well.
[01:53:57]  All right, guys.
[01:53:58]  We'll see you later this week.