Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: JK Rowling CANCELLED from HBO's Harry Potter Reunion | Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh
Aired: 2022-01-07
Duration: 24:41


=== Malfoy's Ego and Sense of Self (05:57) ===

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[00:00:25]  I did watch a reunion.
[00:00:27]  Oh, yeah.
[00:00:27]  Can I tell you one thing?
[00:00:31]  They ain't like Hermione, b I don't think Hermione, uh, uh, Harry and Ron got on.
[00:00:38]  Emma Watson.
[00:00:39]  Yeah, I don't think they got along that well.
[00:00:41]  Towards the end.
[00:00:42]  Towards the end, there was that one moment where, like, I think Ron was trying to have like a beautiful TV moment.
[00:00:46]  Oh, you could.
[00:00:47]  He's like, I love you.
[00:00:47]  And she was like, she would not say that.
[00:00:49]  She wouldn't say that shit.
[00:00:50]  And he said, he doubled down and she still.
[00:00:52]  He said, I love you.
[00:00:53]  And he had to, I mean, not romantically.
[00:00:54]  He even had to take it back.
[00:00:56]  Son, she made it awkward.
[00:00:58]  But I have a feeling that like, and this is not her fault because they're like young kids going into this.
[00:01:02]  And like, she's a young kid who convinced herself she was Hermione and then became Hermione.
[00:01:07]  Right.
[00:01:07]  Like as a child, she was a huge fan of it.
[00:01:09]  Did you watch the whole thing?
[00:01:10]  No, I didn't.
[00:01:11]  I didn't finish it.
[00:01:12]  And that's something that's really interesting about this specific book is that like all these kids, or not all of them, a lot of them were super fans of the books.
[00:01:19]  Yeah.
[00:01:20]  Before they could form their own identities.
[00:01:22]  So they're forming their own identities around the characters in these books already.
[00:01:26]  I didn't even think about that.
[00:01:27]  And then they become them for the next 10 years of their lives.
[00:01:30]  Yeah, that's weird.
[00:01:30]  And like Ron even pointed out, he was the most self-aware, the most interesting.
[00:01:34]  That's why he quit acting, dude.
[00:01:35]  He's the best.
[00:01:36]  Dude, I feel like Ice Cream Truck now.
[00:01:38]  No, he's done.
[00:01:39]  He's done with the business.
[00:01:40]  I made my money.
[00:01:41]  I'm good.
[00:01:41]  I got to fuck you money.
[00:01:43]  I got a fuck you ice cream truck.
[00:01:46]  He got to change his look, though.
[00:01:47]  Yeah, no, he looks like he owns an ice cream truck.
[00:01:50]  He looks exactly like the character.
[00:01:51]  It's like, he wants it.
[00:01:53]  Yeah.
[00:01:54]  He still wants to be no doubt.
[00:01:55]  He's not going to change his look, though.
[00:01:56]  I think he just don't truly care.
[00:01:58]  The Harry Potter kid.
[00:01:59]  He don't look nothing like him.
[00:02:01]  Yeah, because he's trying to be an actor.
[00:02:02]  He's trying to be, he's trying to separate himself at all times from this thing.
[00:02:05]  I think he's like, yo, I did this thing.
[00:02:07]  It was dope as fuck.
[00:02:08]  And now I don't need to do it anymore.
[00:02:09]  I did what I need to do.
[00:02:10]  He treated acting like childhood basketball.
[00:02:12]  Like, you did it when you were like 10.
[00:02:13]  And then when you're 16, you're like, I don't really want to do this.
[00:02:15]  And you had to do two more movies.
[00:02:16]  He's like, fuck.
[00:02:17]  Get me out of here.
[00:02:18]  But the thing was interesting is that Hermione threatening to leave.
[00:02:21]  Like, again, this is me just, I'm totally assuming this.
[00:02:25]  She could be the sweetest person in the whole world.
[00:02:27]  But remember, she was getting like activisty and all that kind of stuff as well.
[00:02:29]  Do you remember?
[00:02:30]  She went to university, didn't she?
[00:02:31]  Like Yale or something.
[00:02:32]  They made a big deal about her going on an Ivy League.
[00:02:34]  She even made a point about it in the reunion.
[00:02:36]  Yeah.
[00:02:36]  Where she's like, these three women that were in it, like, they just became amazing women and activists.
[00:02:41]  Yeah.
[00:02:41]  She made a point to point out who became good activists.
[00:02:43]  Yeah.
[00:02:44]  Which is like Hermione in the book.
[00:02:45]  Mad annoying with that shit.
[00:02:47]  Yeah.
[00:02:47]  So what I was watching, I was like, it is possible that this girl developed such a big ego and sense of self-importance because of the magnitude of the character.
[00:02:58]  Like anybody I think would.
[00:02:59]  Any child put in that position, I think would.
[00:03:02]  Like the fact that Harry Potter is remotely humble, like the guy who plays him, dang a radical.
[00:03:08]  Like he seems so anxious and nervous.
[00:03:10]  Yeah.
[00:03:10]  Like.
[00:03:11]  Well, if you think about the character, the character is, if they become the character, his whole character is the humble kid.
[00:03:16]  Like, I don't want any of this.
[00:03:17]  But that motherfucker's cocky.
[00:03:18]  That motherfucker thinks he could take on everything.
[00:03:20]  Like, Harry Potter is that dude, right?
[00:03:22]  Like, I'll save the world.
[00:03:24]  Right.
[00:03:24]  Right?
[00:03:24]  Motherfucker needs to learn how to hold his breath.
[00:03:27]  Right?
[00:03:27]  It's like every movie, it's like, you underwater, fam.
[00:03:30]  Like, what's up?
[00:03:31]  Like, when you watch them all in a row, it's all drowning.
[00:03:34]  Yeah.
[00:03:34]  Have the gills, like, the gills.
[00:03:36]  Why did he gill it up every time?
[00:03:39]  What did he use to get the gills?
[00:03:40]  God damn it, Miles.
[00:03:41]  I know that.
[00:03:42]  Trivia.
[00:03:42]  What?
[00:03:43]  Gillyweed.
[00:03:44]  Yeah.
[00:03:47]  You should read the books.
[00:03:47]  There's a lot of detail in the books.
[00:03:51]  I was kind of fire.
[00:03:52]  Anyway, I could see her getting this sense of self-importance, but also not being attached to the cast.
[00:03:59]  It seemed like uh Ron and Harry were a little bit more bonded, which and they're young kids that's around the same age, young boys.
[00:04:06]  Maybe it's being boys too.
[00:04:07]  Exactly.
[00:04:07]  Yeah, I go, go, Malfo.
[00:04:09]  I have a different theory.
[00:04:10]  I think that at the point where she was like, oh, I want to get out of here, is right when she's coming into the age of like sexualization and the guys aren't getting sexualized like she was at that age.
[00:04:19]  And there was like mad, crazy stuff about Hermann.
[00:04:22]  There's all these crazy things going on about her like being 16, 17 in these movies.
[00:04:26]  And that's when she's like, oh, fame was fun as a kid.
[00:04:30]  And now I'm coming into it.
[00:04:31]  And the guys aren't getting what I'm getting.
[00:04:33]  They're getting like all the elation.
[00:04:35]  They're getting like they get to be handsome.
[00:04:37]  And now I'm getting weird DMs and just a bunch of rapists coming after me on 16.
[00:04:42]  She was getting like stalked and shit.
[00:04:43]  She didn't get like mad restraining orders.
[00:04:44]  And she even had like an 18th birthday countdown clock on a website.
[00:04:48]  She had security detail when she turned like 15.
[00:04:51]  And the guys were able to just like sort of be dudes.
[00:04:53]  And they got to be.
[00:04:54]  What a piece of shit I am for making that shit.
[00:04:58]  I only thought that because she wouldn't say I love you back to Ron when he was saying it as a friend.
[00:05:01]  And I was like, this is the cruelest thing ever because you know the whole world is going to watch this.
[00:05:05]  And all they want is to see these two people in real life say I love you to one another.
[00:05:09]  But maybe she got a boyfriend who's like jealous or something.
[00:05:12]  No, no, no.
[00:05:13]  Because she said, I love you to Snipe.
[00:05:15]  Or not Snipe.
[00:05:16]  Alan Jaw.
[00:05:17]  Malfoy.
[00:05:18]  Oh, Malfoy.
[00:05:19]  Yeah.
[00:05:19]  Oh, I thought she said she was in love with him.
[00:05:21]  No, no, no, no.
[00:05:22]  They were like, oh, I love you.
[00:05:23]  I love you, but not romantically.
[00:05:24]  Yeah.
[00:05:25]  She's like, I love him.
[00:05:26]  We have like a bond.
[00:05:27]  He was dope too.
[00:05:27]  Malfoy was.
[00:05:29]  I think Emma Watson has like some issues with men in her life.
[00:05:32]  And it makes sense because she got like fucked over by the internet.
[00:05:35]  You know what I mean?
[00:05:36]  Like all these dudes are like all the activist shit.
[00:05:38]  I'm assuming it's coming out of being like sexually objectified when she's 13.
[00:05:42]  I think that's a great point.
[00:05:43]  Also, yeah, great.
[00:05:44]  Objectification is bad.
[00:05:45]  Yeah, objectification is bad, dude.
[00:05:47]  You cannot objectify these women.
[00:05:49]  You cannot objectify children.
[00:05:50]  That's children.
[00:05:51]  But when they're adults, grown-ass women, make up for it.
[00:05:54]  Make up for it.
[00:05:55]  Make up for what you didn't give them as kids.

=== Rowling, Jon Stewart, and Make-Believe (15:25) ===

[00:05:57]  Yeah.
[00:05:58]  Let the fucking, let the ball go.
[00:06:01]  I let you be a kid.
[00:06:02]  Now you finna be an adult.
[00:06:03]  Yes.
[00:06:04]  No, I think that makes a lot of sense.
[00:06:06]  Yeah, you would want to stand up for women if you experienced the worst type of behavior from the worst types of men.
[00:06:12]  Yeah.
[00:06:13]  Like a guy that would do that.
[00:06:14]  I mean, I guess it's you don't know them, so it's all fun and games to a bunch of dudes.
[00:06:19]  They just have this joke, but like, that's a girl, yo.
[00:06:22]  That's a 16-year-old girl.
[00:06:23]  Yeah.
[00:06:24]  You don't think about that, but like, yeah, I'm sure that fucking warped her view of that.
[00:06:29]  I almost think that's the worst type of hot to be is like nerdy hot because you get the worst dudes because you get like the weirdest dudes that are into like nerdy hot girls.
[00:06:37]  And I think those guys are creepier than just like what?
[00:06:43]  What?
[00:06:44]  Well, you put an akasha.
[00:06:45]  Who's in the comments, bro?
[00:06:46]  Who's in the comments?
[00:06:47]  A bunch of fucking Akashes going crazy.
[00:06:49]  Give me a number.
[00:06:50]  I love you.
[00:06:51]  No, no.
[00:06:52]  No, we would propose marriage like gentlemen.
[00:06:54]  That's a fun money.
[00:06:56]  That's the Indian, hey, gentlemen, dog.
[00:06:58]  100%.
[00:06:59]  Through and through.
[00:07:00]  And she's in England, in London.
[00:07:02]  They got a.
[00:07:02]  We wouldn't have no countdown clock.
[00:07:04]  We married that bitch at age.
[00:07:07]  Wild boy, but it's facts, but wild boy.
[00:07:10]  Miles, what the fuck are you opening up over there?
[00:07:12]  This is like a coloring book page.
[00:07:15]  I was about to start drawing during the podcast.
[00:07:18]  What are we about to do every pod?
[00:07:19]  I just doodle so that I pay attention and am not staring at you guys because it gets you guys off of the pod.
[00:07:26]  Oh, I didn't know.
[00:07:27]  I thought it was a map of something.
[00:07:28]  And I was like, again, wow.
[00:07:31]  He's trying to concentrate and do his fucking job.
[00:07:33]  I need a piece of picture.
[00:07:34]  I know.
[00:07:35]  If only you did it.
[00:07:40]  Do shit.
[00:07:41]  No.
[00:07:42]  But I thought it was an actual map of something.
[00:07:44]  And I was like, does he have a game of another Game of Thrones?
[00:07:47]  Harry Potter?
[00:07:48]  I thought you had like a Diegon Alley map or something.
[00:07:51]  What's the map called?
[00:07:52]  The Diegon Alley map.
[00:07:53]  No.
[00:07:54]  The one that you can see people walk around and the map of a conservatorship.
[00:08:00]  The countdown clock map.
[00:08:03]  No, what is it?
[00:08:03]  The Broader's map.
[00:08:04]  The Broader's map.
[00:08:05]  The Barad's.
[00:08:06]  Hey, dude.
[00:08:07]  Hey, dude.
[00:08:08]  Why do you have to pronounce Diagonale exactly?
[00:08:11]  Because it's diagonally.
[00:08:13]  It's diagonal.
[00:08:14]  No, if you say diagonally, it takes you to another spot.
[00:08:18]  Do you remember when that happened to Harry Potter?
[00:08:19]  The first time they took the dust and they went into the fireplace at the Weasley's house, and then they he ended up in Diagonally, not Diagonale.
[00:08:27]  What story did it end up on?
[00:08:30]  I'm so nerdy.
[00:08:31]  I've done this shit billions of people.
[00:08:32]  Yo, yes, and what else is in there?
[00:08:36]  The vanishing case, which is how the death eaters get into motherfucking Hogwarts.
[00:08:42]  Yep.
[00:08:44]  Y'all not even fans.
[00:08:45]  You're not even a fan, bro.
[00:08:48]  You're not a fan.
[00:08:49]  That map is Miles' restraining order from Emma Watson.
[00:08:54]  Yo, is Emma Watson your number one?
[00:08:56]  Yeah, that's a Miles.
[00:08:57]  Yo, as a kid, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:58]  You were the same age, mad times or not.
[00:09:00]  No, I just was like, because I grew up the same age.
[00:09:03]  I was like, I'm Harry Potter.
[00:09:04]  And then he got to be Harry Potter.
[00:09:05]  And I was like, fuck, I'm not Harry Potter anymore.
[00:09:07]  I was like, I'll be Draco.
[00:09:08]  I was willing to be anyone to like fantasize.
[00:09:11]  I'd be in those books.
[00:09:13]  I was such a nerd about it.
[00:09:14]  Oh, if I read those books as kids, oh my God, dude.
[00:09:16]  It's like the fucking coolest thing in the world.
[00:09:18]  When you're an adult, it's like, oh, this is cool.
[00:09:21]  It's fun to read.
[00:09:21]  When you're a kid, you're like, I wish this was real, I bet.
[00:09:23]  Like, I would love to be this.
[00:09:25]  I can't imagine, dude.
[00:09:27]  Thank God.
[00:09:28]  If I read this shit as a kid, I'd be such a fucking loser.
[00:09:32]  Unbelievable.
[00:09:32]  Look at me.
[00:09:37]  What?
[00:09:38]  What?
[00:09:38]  Y'all waiting for me to say some shit.
[00:09:40]  You're laughing deviously.
[00:09:41]  I was.
[00:09:41]  I was going to say some devious shit, but then I felt like he really cared about what he just said.
[00:09:45]  And I didn't want to undercut it.
[00:09:46]  All right.
[00:09:47]  But don't tell me.
[00:09:47]  What were you going to say?
[00:09:48]  Just off mic.
[00:09:49]  I was going to say probably some homosexual slayers.
[00:09:53]  That would have been fun.
[00:09:54]  Yeah.
[00:09:54]  That would have been well-timed.
[00:09:56]  Yeah, it would have been well-timed.
[00:09:57]  Moment is passed.
[00:09:57]  Okay, so can we get to this fucking Jon Stewart situation?
[00:10:01]  Because this is a big deal.
[00:10:02]  So Jon Stewart basically joked around that Harry Potter's creator and writer, J.K. Rowling, must be anti-Semitic because she made the goblins at Gringotts Bank.
[00:10:15]  All the negative stereotypes of Jews.
[00:10:16]  All the negative stereotypes of Juice.
[00:10:18]  Except the money one.
[00:10:19]  Yeah, the fucking bank.
[00:10:20]  It's also positive stereotypes.
[00:10:21]  Yeah, it's positive.
[00:10:22]  Super positive.
[00:10:23]  Like control.
[00:10:24]  I mean, they are honest bankers.
[00:10:25]  They're not stealing people's money.
[00:10:27]  Yeah.
[00:10:28]  Like, I don't know.
[00:10:28]  I think there's only a couple stereotypes that are bad here.
[00:10:31]  It's true.
[00:10:33]  They're honest bankers, very secure system.
[00:10:35]  Yeah.
[00:10:35]  Right?
[00:10:36]  They got dragons locked up.
[00:10:37]  Like, dragons locked up, taking care of their community.
[00:10:39]  Like, what is the negative thing?
[00:10:42]  Nose.
[00:10:43]  Nose and stature.
[00:10:44]  And it's like, dude, John, why are you putting so much value in physical looks, dude?
[00:10:47]  Like, they're not really friendly.
[00:10:50]  Say what?
[00:10:50]  They're not really that friendly.
[00:10:51]  Oh, yeah.
[00:10:51]  You can't trust me.
[00:10:52]  Your work.
[00:10:52]  Your work.
[00:10:53]  No, but they.
[00:10:54]  This is a job.
[00:10:54]  You can't trust him in a deal.
[00:10:56]  Why not?
[00:10:56]  Harry made a deal with that guy, and then he fucking left him, took the sword, and left him.
[00:11:01]  That is a good ass point.
[00:11:02]  I remember reading it and being like, you're right, Jon Stewart.
[00:11:05]  And then when you fucked him over at the end, I was like, okay.
[00:11:08]  It has been showing like juice.
[00:11:10]  Yeah.
[00:11:10]  So he made a joke about this.
[00:11:12]  He didn't actually think.
[00:11:13]  He was just joking on the pod.
[00:11:14]  Joking on the pod.
[00:11:15]  Newsweek comes along.
[00:11:16]  And then what happens?
[00:11:17]  And they run a whole story.
[00:11:18]  Jon Stewart claims Harry Potter's anti-Semitic and blah, blah, blah.
[00:11:20]  Cancel culture, whatever.
[00:11:22]  It gets picked up.
[00:11:22]  Everyone's talking about how Jon Stewart's trying to cancel Harry Potter.
[00:11:25]  And then Jon Stewart goes on another show, I think, like this morning.
[00:11:28]  Right.
[00:11:28]  And he just goes, yo, it was a joke.
[00:11:30]  I was riffing with my friends on a podcast.
[00:11:32]  He brought it up.
[00:11:33]  We talked about Harry Potter for a few minutes.
[00:11:34]  Newsweek, go fuck yourself.
[00:11:36]  Yes.
[00:11:36]  This is a common.
[00:11:38]  He said, Newsweek, your business model is arson.
[00:11:42]  Like all you guys do is profit off destruction and try to ruin everything.
[00:11:46]  And then he said, what's worse is I used to respect you.
[00:11:48]  You used to mean something.
[00:11:50]  What happened?
[00:11:51]  And he said, you used to be my go-to when the newsstand was out at Time magazine.
[00:11:55]  Yeah, it's a great headline.
[00:12:01]  Jon Stewart calls out J.K. Rowling.
[00:12:03]  Yeah, 100%.
[00:12:04]  I mean, I'm sure that these Newsweek or whatever it is, all these magazines, all these blogs are looking at their data and they're like, wait a minute, when J.K. Rowling says something anti-trans, it gets a lot of clicks.
[00:12:13]  This HBO thing just came out.
[00:12:14]  People are really into this HBO show.
[00:12:16]  They're upset that she wasn't there.
[00:12:17]  Let's see if we can tie into the interest in this HBO review of Harry Potter, tap into Jon Stewart, and make her look even more hateful since Harry Potter's creator being hateful is already doing well.
[00:12:27]  Yeah.
[00:12:28]  This one loves Jon Stewart.
[00:12:29]  They know he's Jewish.
[00:12:30]  And he's the person to call you out.
[00:12:32]  Like, if Jon Stewart calls you out, it must be real.
[00:12:34]  Yeah.
[00:12:35]  But you also have to understand Jon Stewart is a comedian.
[00:12:37]  Yes.
[00:12:37]  And he's going to be hyperbolic.
[00:12:39]  And comedians, we do it all the time on this fucking podcast.
[00:12:41]  We just make a statement and try to prove it.
[00:12:43]  Something ridiculous.
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[00:14:02]  But I think we've had that Green Goss convo on the pod before.
[00:14:05]  Yeah.
[00:14:05]  I think we did.
[00:14:06]  I think it's a common combo.
[00:14:07]  And he had it a month ago.
[00:14:09]  So I feel like Newsweek saw it.
[00:14:11]  They knew the reunion was coming out and they plotted.
[00:14:13]  Yeah.
[00:14:15]  You know what's interesting?
[00:14:16]  It's like, I think if you're Jewish, like, do you think there are people that aren't Jewish that own banks?
[00:14:25]  Because maybe if you're Scottish, you're not even thinking Jews run the banks because there aren't Jews in Scotland running the banks.
[00:14:34]  So you're not even putting the stereotype together.
[00:14:36]  So it might be something as a Jewish dude, the way you see the world informs the world you're seeing.
[00:14:42]  Right?
[00:14:43]  You might have seen bankers as people she doesn't trust.
[00:14:45]  Yeah.
[00:14:45]  So she, and how can I.
[00:14:47]  I didn't even know banks were the stereotype of fact.
[00:14:50]  I don't know.
[00:14:51]  Jews run banks, but I was like, I don't like these banks.
[00:14:55]  I don't know.
[00:14:55]  Who's to say?
[00:14:57]  Who likes a bank?
[00:14:58]  They give you money.
[00:14:59]  You got to give them more money.
[00:15:00]  Yeah, the overdraft fees, all this other dumb shit, minimum balance.
[00:15:03]  They're just finding ways to take your money.
[00:15:05]  They tell you how much of your money you're allowed to take out.
[00:15:07]  It's not just a race.
[00:15:08]  If you own a bank, you're a criminal.
[00:15:10]  Yes.
[00:15:10]  Stealing money left and right.
[00:15:12]  Yeah, it just so happens that Jews occupy the most hated professions.
[00:15:15]  That's not their fault.
[00:15:16]  Right?
[00:15:18]  It's not their fault, is it?
[00:15:20]  Bankers, lawyers, the rest of them.
[00:15:24]  Oh, there it is.
[00:15:25]  No, but I guess, I guess what I'm saying, in all seriousness, like sometimes your own insecurities, your own stereotypes of like your world inform what you see.
[00:15:32]  Right.
[00:15:32]  Maybe living, I think she's Scottish, right?
[00:15:34]  Jake Rowling, or she was living in Edinburgh when she was doing it.
[00:15:37]  I think so.
[00:15:38]  Maybe she just had no attachment to that there.
[00:15:40]  Like, I don't think there's tons of Jews in Scotland running the banks.
[00:15:43]  It's probably just Scottish people every time she goes in the bank and they're like, and she's like, oh, these fucking Scottish douchebags holding all the fucking money.
[00:15:48]  They're like fucking goblins.
[00:15:50]  And then starts to describe what a goblin is.
[00:15:52]  Right?
[00:15:53]  Yeah.
[00:15:53]  And I think that can happen.
[00:15:55]  Right.
[00:15:55]  No, or what?
[00:15:56]  Of course.
[00:15:56]  She also was homeless and poor at the time.
[00:15:58]  So you hate Bengal.
[00:15:59]  I really hate Jude.
[00:16:01]  I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:03]  How do you think?
[00:16:04]  Newsweek's article, Flagrant 2 podcast.
[00:16:08]  How do you think how they handle JK Rowling?
[00:16:10]  I hated it and I turned it off for that reason.
[00:16:12]  Really?
[00:16:13]  I thought it was so scummy, dude.
[00:16:14]  Oh, what do you mean?
[00:16:15]  Either put her in or don't put her in.
[00:16:16]  In the reunion, they turned it off after five minutes.
[00:16:19]  Like, now I made it through 30, and then I was like, everyone talking.
[00:16:22]  And then for JK Rowling, they play a 2019 interview that she did for like a press tour or something.
[00:16:28]  Yeah.
[00:16:28]  And then use that footage and then retroactively put it in to the talk.
[00:16:31]  Have her in it or don't have her in it.
[00:16:33]  I wish I never knew.
[00:16:34]  Wait, what?
[00:16:35]  I wish I never knew they used the old footage.
[00:16:36]  But you would have been like, why does this look mad shitty?
[00:16:38]  Like the lighting.
[00:16:39]  She said 2019 in it.
[00:16:41]  Like the background's not there.
[00:16:42]  The lighting is fucked.
[00:16:43]  It's like, it looks like it's shot poorly.
[00:16:46]  Yeah, but there's so much footage from back in the day that it didn't really seem like that big a deal.
[00:16:50]  Like, yes, she wasn't in the castle and shit with the rest of them.
[00:16:53]  That would have been really cool to see her interacting with the characters that she created.
[00:16:56]  Yes.
[00:16:57]  That would have been fun for us.
[00:16:58]  Yes.
[00:16:59]  And I think it's pussy of HBO to not have her in it.
[00:17:01]  But also, I don't know if maybe she didn't want to be in it.
[00:17:03]  Like, if this is coming from HBO and HBO is going, you know what?
[00:17:08]  We're not going to put her in because she has this trans controversy and that's just going to bring a negative, you know, stigma to this show and everything involved.
[00:17:14]  And we don't want that.
[00:17:15]  So you've been canceled from your own project.
[00:17:17]  That's pussy from HBO.
[00:17:18]  My understanding is that's why they put 2019 up there because that's before the controversies happened.
[00:17:22]  So like, hey guys, before any of this happened, we didn't know this old footage.
[00:17:26]  And then everybody.
[00:17:27]  Everybody might say I'm German, but my family came here before 1940.
[00:17:30]  Yes, exactly.
[00:17:31]  And then people who are watching who are like, oh, she's anti-trans, I don't like her are like, well, this was before.
[00:17:36]  So you get to feel good about it.
[00:17:37]  You get to watch her.
[00:17:38]  Fuck you.
[00:17:39]  Have her in or don't.
[00:17:40]  Guilt-free.
[00:17:40]  And to be honest, I'm not interested in what Christopher Columbus, great director, did Home Alone, did these two movies.
[00:17:46]  I don't really care what you have to say.
[00:17:48]  You took this book series that was a global phenomenon, and then your only job is don't fuck this up.
[00:17:54]  I got to give you push-up.
[00:17:55]  I got to give you pushback there, man.
[00:17:56]  I think he's good.
[00:17:57]  No, no, I got to get it.
[00:17:58]  I don't really care what he has to say relative to what she has to say.
[00:18:01]  Okay, there you go.
[00:18:02]  I would like to hear from her.
[00:18:03]  But if sure, but if we're specifically talking about the films, and this is the reason why you need a director, like the director makes a film.
[00:18:12]  It don't matter how great the acting is.
[00:18:14]  Like the acting and all that kind of stuff is sprinkled on top.
[00:18:17]  The director makes the fucking film.
[00:18:18]  And a lot of times the director is the one telling those actors what he needs from them because he's seeing the whole film throughout.
[00:18:24]  And these actors, they might not even know.
[00:18:25]  Some of these actors, myself included, just show up with the fucking size for that day.
[00:18:29]  They don't know how that scene relates to anything.
[00:18:30]  Anything else?
[00:18:31]  Yeah, him in particular with kids.
[00:18:32]  I get why he's good.
[00:18:34]  And I'm sorry to interrupt you, but like what I was fascinated by the most, and it was like this daunting task.
[00:18:39]  Like who is doing all the fucking CGI?
[00:18:41]  Who's doing all the effects?
[00:18:42]  Is the director hiring someone who just specializes in that?
[00:18:45]  And then he just goes, I don't have to think about this at all.
[00:18:48]  Or is that also his vision?
[00:18:49]  How somebody operates?
[00:18:51]  How somebody does a magic trick?
[00:18:53]  What the wands look like?
[00:18:54]  Like all these things have to be created in your mind.
[00:18:57]  So when I'm looking at the directors and I'm like, if they created all these things, like that all just came from their imagination.
[00:19:03]  Yes, she described it in the books, but how it looks like in real life, I'm like, you're a fucking genius.
[00:19:08]  Like you're dealing with make-believe.
[00:19:11]  So now there's no precedent for make-believe.
[00:19:13]  You're right.
[00:19:14]  I'll walk that back.
[00:19:15]  It wasn't impressive.
[00:19:15]  Maybe I'm getting too excited.
[00:19:16]  No, no, no, no.
[00:19:17]  It was impressive.
[00:19:17]  And I think he was probably the best director.
[00:19:20]  Like, I don't know if this is in the book or not.
[00:19:22]  There's so many details.
[00:19:22]  It's hard to keep up.
[00:19:23]  But like the way the staircase moves as you're walking up and connects it.
[00:19:27]  That's like a fucking, if you just imagine that's like what a magical thing would be.
[00:19:31]  That's dope as fuck.
[00:19:32]  So he should be in it.
[00:19:33]  But without her, my interest drops considerably.
[00:19:36]  And I think it's such a bitch move to not have her in.
[00:19:38]  Yeah.
[00:19:38]  I think you also, as a creator, have a lot of respect for creators.
[00:19:42]  Absolutely.
[00:19:43]  And I think that there's certain people that they look at this as like a parallel universe to the one that they lived in their life.
[00:19:51]  And they just want to see these characters hang out together.
[00:19:53]  It'd be almost like if we saw like Will Smith and Charles Charlton or whatever his name is.
[00:20:00]  Yeah.
[00:20:01]  Charles Carlton.
[00:20:02]  Carl Fonzo Rivero.
[00:20:03]  Fresh Prince reunion.
[00:20:05]  I grew up with the Fresh Prince.
[00:20:06]  I love the Fresh Prince reunion.
[00:20:07]  Right, right.
[00:20:08]  I got to see these guys coming together.
[00:20:09]  I haven't seen them in so long.
[00:20:10]  And even if they're not in character, you just like...
[00:20:12]  You're just like, oh, this is fire to see these people that I grew up watching, like hanging out and telling stories about.
[00:20:17]  I think for a lot of people, that's what it was.
[00:20:19]  And you have a different perspective because you create.
[00:20:23]  So if you were excommunicated from your own creation, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on?
[00:20:27]  Are y'all really going to go talk without me?
[00:20:28]  And I remember earlier when I first said HBO ain't shit, Mark was like, what about Game of Thrones?
[00:20:33]  If they had a Game of Thrones reunion without George R.R. Martin, would you watch it?
[00:20:36]  And I was like, I probably wouldn't.
[00:20:38]  I would.
[00:20:40]  But here's the difference.
[00:20:41]  We hadn't really heard of Game of Thrones as a book series.
[00:20:44]  I don't think any of us had.
[00:20:45]  Then this TV series comes along, and that's how we heard of it.
[00:20:48]  Harry Potter, every human being on earth had heard of.
[00:20:50]  And then they were like, oh, they're going to make a movie about this book that everyone has read.
[00:20:55]  Every child on earth has read this book that has access to it.
[00:20:58]  Good point.
[00:20:58]  So you're just turning that into a movie.
[00:21:00]  I want to hear what she has to say.
[00:21:01]  Yeah.
[00:21:02]  Because she's the one that made this shit fire.
[00:21:04]  Game of Thrones, none of us knew about the books.
[00:21:06]  None of us have interest in the books even now.
[00:21:09]  And that's the only reason we care about it is the TV series.
[00:21:11]  So I want to hear what they have to say, more than the author.
[00:21:14]  Yeah.
[00:21:14]  No, J.K. Rowling is different.
[00:21:16]  I don't think there's anybody who doesn't want to hear from J.K. Rowling.
[00:21:18]  I think we all do.
[00:21:20]  That's why it was more of a problem to me.
[00:21:21]  I completely get that.

=== Improv Versus Stand-Up Comedy (03:18) ===

[00:21:22]  But I was excited to hear what each director had to say and like what their process was.
[00:21:28]  I'm also just curious about making films.
[00:21:31]  So it's like, how do you hire somebody who's going to have that vision?
[00:21:34]  Like the one guy who gave them homework, Alfonso Cuaron, or whatever like that.
[00:21:39]  Like, yeah, he was like, these people are growing up now.
[00:21:41]  Like, this is where they become, go from kids to like young adults.
[00:21:45]  So I need to make sure their characters are prepared for that.
[00:21:48]  And like Hermione's Emma, whatever, Watson, she wrote like an 11-page paper on it.
[00:21:53]  Harry Potter wrote a few pages.
[00:21:54]  Ron didn't do it.
[00:21:56]  And then the director went to Ron and goes, Why didn't you do it?
[00:21:58]  And he goes, Yeah, I didn't think my character would do it.
[00:22:01]  That's fire.
[00:22:02]  That's fine.
[00:22:02]  Like a story like that is so cool.
[00:22:05]  And you're going to get that story from the people that was working with the kids.
[00:22:09]  Anyway, I don't know.
[00:22:10]  It was cool.
[00:22:11]  Like the other director, I forgot which one when he was telling the twins how to fight with each other.
[00:22:16]  Yeah.
[00:22:17]  Like the twins, they wouldn't fight.
[00:22:18]  They're like brothers.
[00:22:19]  So they're like, hey, we're just going to mushroom.
[00:22:20]  He's like, no, I want you to really get in there.
[00:22:22]  So he got in.
[00:22:22]  He's like, which one of you want to fight?
[00:22:24]  And one like raises his hand and they really start tussling so much that they body slammed him and he cracked like three of his ribs.
[00:22:31]  The director cracked his legs.
[00:22:33]  And if you notice it, all the directors, not a single Jew.
[00:22:38]  You know, Harry Potter's Jewish, right?
[00:22:40]  Who, Daniel Radcliffe?
[00:22:41]  Yes.
[00:22:42]  Really?
[00:22:42]  Yes.
[00:22:43]  Mother's Jewish, dad.
[00:22:46]  So the opposite of what you're going to have.
[00:22:48]  Wow.
[00:22:49]  Wow.
[00:22:49]  Shots fired.
[00:22:50]  Okay.
[00:22:51]  Killed me.
[00:22:52]  Yeah.
[00:22:53]  I don't know.
[00:22:53]  I just thought it was.
[00:22:54]  I just thought I was saying, I think it's annoying to see these publications just say bullshit for clicks and not be a comedy podcast.
[00:23:03]  And that's my only issue.
[00:23:06]  Right?
[00:23:06]  Like, if they were just like, yo, we're a comedy podcast.
[00:23:08]  It was Comedy Week.
[00:23:09]  I'm fine with it.
[00:23:10]  Yo, does anybody hate the Babylon B?
[00:23:13]  Nobody hates it.
[00:23:14]  It's funny.
[00:23:15]  It's satire.
[00:23:15]  It's bullshit.
[00:23:16]  They can just say things that are untrue in a funny way, and people go, they listen, they watch, they share the stories.
[00:23:21]  It's fun.
[00:23:22]  We don't care.
[00:23:23]  So if you're one of these news organizations that you know that you're already saying fake shit, just join the team.
[00:23:29]  Be like us.
[00:23:30]  Say the bullshit.
[00:23:31]  It might be right.
[00:23:32]  It might not be right.
[00:23:32]  But as long as it's funny, it goes.
[00:23:35]  If Cable News Network was Cable Entertainment Network, I have way less of a problem with it.
[00:23:39]  But you know what it is?
[00:23:40]  Way easier to just lie about things that have happened.
[00:23:45]  Sorry, like the barrier to entry for somebody consuming your content, if you're telling them the truth in the news, you don't even have to be interesting.
[00:23:52]  You can be like, here are the facts.
[00:23:54]  You'll be like, I got it.
[00:23:54]  It's like improv versus stand-up.
[00:23:57]  Yeah.
[00:23:57]  It's not talking about my boy.
[00:23:58]  And I'm not even joking.
[00:23:59]  I'm not even saying that.
[00:24:00]  That improv game shit is hard.
[00:24:01]  I ain't going front.
[00:24:02]  I'm not going back to that.
[00:24:04]  I'm not doing no more improv.
[00:24:05]  But if you go to an improv show, they're laughing at everything because they're like, oh, they're coming up with all this on the spot.
[00:24:09]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:24:10]  And the bar is higher with stand-up because it's like, oh, no, I expect you to be funny.
[00:24:14]  You've probably worked on this.
[00:24:15]  Let's go.
[00:24:16]  It's just the bar is way higher for what's funny and what's not.
[00:24:19]  Right.
[00:24:19]  Yeah.
[00:24:20]  For entertainment, you got to look at like news is like, I just want to see something and I just want to know what the fuck is going on in the world.
[00:24:27]  Yeah.
[00:24:28]  And for us, it's like you're not coming to find out what's going on in the world.
[00:24:32]  I'm coming to be entertained.
[00:24:34]  Yes.
[00:24:34]  Entertainment perspective.
[00:24:35]  Yeah.
[00:24:35]  Specifically.
[00:24:36]  We have the hardest job.
[00:24:38]  Okay.
[00:24:38]  We're the best.
[00:24:39]  You hear that, war veterans?
[00:24:40]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.