Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect the alleged hoax between Cardi B and Candace Owens, tracing the conflict from their Grammy "WAP" performance to a likely Photoshop scandal involving Candace's brother. They critique Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro for ignoring sexual dynamics while mocking conservative hypocrisy regarding Melania Trump and legal threats. Ultimately, the hosts argue that both sides engage in calculated clout-chasing, suggesting that admitting double standards is preferable to maintaining false principles in modern media warfare. [Automatically generated summary]
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Conservatives Cloud Chase00:08:49
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Explain the drama.
All right, so basically at the Grammys, Cardi B and Meg the Stallion were busting it out on the with their song WAP.
They scissored.
I think they kissed.
Like they were really, they were going for it.
Yeah.
Go for it.
And then Candace went on Tucker Carlson's show and was saying that it was a degradation of American values and attack on American children or something to that effect.
And then they went back and forth on Twitter with all sorts of...
Oh, yeah.
And then what happened is Cardi posted.
Yeah, yeah.
So basically, Candace was like, oh, like you guys are scissoring on TV.
And then Cardi posted a tweet and a news article from Candace Owens alleging that her brother or her boyfriend cheated on her with her own brother.
And apparently it was a Photoshop tweet.
Yeah.
So Candace is saying maybe she's going to sue him.
Blah, blah, blah.
Here's what, and then I think Ben Shapiro was also like fucking, you know, crying about shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everyone hated the WAP performance and Candace Owens was she was the big one that got attention.
Right.
Okay.
So I guess my curiosity is like, what music do conservatives listen to when they fuck?
Country.
Even then, like country is some badass shit, low-key.
Like male country, if you want to go back to like back in the day, like I'm going to fucking shoot somebody.
I'm going to kill you.
I'm an outlaw.
I've already said many times female country, most violent music on the planet, right?
They're not talking about Dixie Chicks trying to poison motherfuckers, scraping up their cars, that kind of shit.
But in terms of actually fucking, right?
Who are you going to fuck to?
I don't think they fuck to music.
I didn't mean that.
Like just CNN in the background.
Definitely not CNN.
It's worse than the music.
It's Tucker Carlson is what they're fucking.
It's Tucker Carlson.
That's it.
His screechy ass fucking voice, dude.
Is there any baritone voiced conservative?
Rush Limbaugh had a little bass to him, I think.
Yeah, can't hear about it.
That's why his voice is so low.
That was a lot.
I just said, like, conservatives, just let the liberals do the music, and then you do the politics shit or policy or whatever it is.
You just make sure the government doesn't get too big and they don't take all their fucking money.
Shut up in newscast.
Shut up and what?
Shut up in newscasts.
Shut up in newscasts.
Exactly.
This is not your bag.
Like, they make the fucked music so we can fuck to it.
100%.
I'm literally the most, I hate the fucking term like centrist because I'm not that.
But like, you know, there's certain things I'm liberal about, certain things I'm conservative about, et cetera.
So I'm not judging, but I do not like conservatives talking about fucking.
Y'all don't know how to fuck.
Yeah.
Ain't nobody going to conservative.
Ain't nobody going to Ben Shapiro going, yo, how do I finger pop?
Yeah, Ben Shapiro's never got his ass popped.
Fuck out of here.
You taking a Mazusa off the door?
Like, come on, bro.
This is.
Dude, you got to have Ben Shapiro on the pod.
That'd be fired.
We're going to have Ben Shipping.
You got to have him on stiff socks.
He's going on stiff socks.
If you want to know how Ben Shapiro talks, he's talking about that wet vagina.
So I think he should be right in here with us.
100%.
How does he come?
I don't know.
But maybe not.
Who knows?
Point is, it's just like, this is out your bag.
And I think that Ben Shapiro always does the thing, well, well, if a conservative did this, then the whole world would go crazy.
Yes, because there are different standards for y'all, conservatives.
That you kind of ask for.
Yeah.
You ask for the different standards.
We got different standards because they ask for them.
I think liberals are incredibly hypocritical with so many things.
Don't get me wrong.
Factual.
Right?
But the only people that they want standards for are white guys, liberals.
Yeah.
Right, and they're consistent about that.
They're like, white guys need standards.
Nobody else has standards.
They're consistent with their inconsistency.
Exactly.
I think they should just be honest about it.
Like, white guys are the only people that need rules.
Everybody, no rules.
You know what actually was a fire clap back, though, from Cardi?
What?
She said, yeah, like, you know, women shouldn't be exploring their sexuality in their 30s and then posted a picture of Melania.
Naked, yeah.
Ooh, that's spicy, right?
And then Candace said some shit like, why would you always attack the Trumps get over?
And she was like, I look at Melania like a hero.
She showed me, you could have your tits out and still be first weight, first lady.
Like, that's a and then what did Candace say about that with her flat chest?
She said, I'm suing you.
Actually, I don't know if she got the heavies.
Did she got the heavies?
I don't know.
Also, how are you going to sue her?
Isn't there a freedom of speech situation?
Like, aren't you missing freedom of speech?
That's what I'm saying.
She said, Oh, you made up tweets about me and my family.
That's pussy.
That's pussy.
I mean, she's out there making up shit about climate change.
She's out there making up shit all the time.
And the second somebody said that your boyfriend is sucking dicks.
Somebody posted a screenshot of her making up shit about another famous person's family.
I don't remember who it was, but like, oh, yeah, but your family's doing this and this and this.
And one of those fucking Adriena Chrome or some shit like that.
But like, what are we talking about?
Yeah.
And why do you care so much about censorship?
That's the thing.
Like, you're supposed to be the conservative that's allow everything to happen, and you're out here trying to censor Cardi B because it doesn't line up with American values.
What is the most important American value?
What is freedom?
The other fucking shit.
You know what I'm saying?
What is freedom, right?
If you want it.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, man.
This shit is just so weird.
Like, Trev, what do you think?
I think that's how you guys are so uncomfortable as if we're talking politics.
I don't know.
You say, Fiat!
German, who got a Fiat?
I think you know you're losing a fight.
We say, I'm going to sue you because this is like your final cop.
I'm going to sue you.
Yeah, Candace really might be a white male, though.
That's how you know.
She's going with the I'm going to sue you.
That is a white male thing.
That's right.
What's wrong with scissoring?
I don't know.
I honestly thought you were going to say, What's wrong with suing?
That's some trust one question.
Nah, two girls scissoring.
It's stupid, but it is what it is.
And they weren't even scissoring.
I think Meg was like riding her a little bit.
She was like bouncing on it.
She's a stallion.
She's a stallion.
That's what she does.
No, she's supposed to get ridden, but it doesn't really matter.
Okay, logic.
Who can't say this?
Also, stallion's a male horse.
Well, we figured out a little horse.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm gay.
Glow, can you please please be my neck goes against American values?
But if you just sue you, bro.
I don't understand why.
I understand you're doing it because this is how conservatives cloud chase, right?
They cloud chase by exposing the hypocrisy.
Like, look how liberals are allowed to be treated.
The biggest clout you can get is expose or going after hip-hop as a black person.
That's just what it is.
If I, because they, she knows she could have the loudest voice against black people.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, white people are talking about no, no, no.
But yo.
So she could have the loudest voice against black people because white people cannot speak that harshly.
And she knows how much it pisses black people off.
And she always targets Cardi because there's always trends.
This is like a third time she trends.
So she's like, oh, whenever Cardi does anything good, I'm just going.
I bet Cardi's also hip to that, though.
I bet Cardi knows that.
Yeah, but then like Cardi knows that she could dunk on Candace.
So Cardi's not sitting here frustrated.
Like, I can't help myself.
She's like, oh, I'm going to get some points too.
Yeah.
Nobody watched my performance.
That's what I was going to say.
Nobody's watching a Grammy.
Now they're going to watch.
Grammys got to do whatever they can to get ratings.
Son, low-key, I wonder if Candace and Cardi are like, yo, y'all ready to set it up again?
This could all be wrestling.
Yo, I'm going to say that your boyfriend sucked off your brother.
We know we need to.
All right.
It is what it is.
That's absurd enough that no one would believe it.
You can say that about me.
And then what she said, she's going against American values.
Yeah.
Cardi B. Can we define American values, bro?
You know what it is for conservatives?
I'm not even making the sense.
What is an American value?
It is freedom of speech, but not sexuality.
And I don't mean that as a knock.
It's like they're not fully comfortable with people talking about sex in the open, but saying cuss words and whatever the fuck.
Yeah, sure, why not?
Right.
That's it.
And I really think that's it.
And I kind of align with that as someone who was raised in an Indian household.
We be talking wild shit, but nothing about sex.
Nothing about sex.
I hear you.
I just don't understand.
So it's against Indian values, basically.
What is it?
Indian values, American values are shockingly similar.
So that's why you guys are great here.
Yeah, that's why we're killing it.
You know, there's no stop Indian hate hashtag.
I don't think there was even one after 9/11.
Yeah, no.
What?
There's a few, but nobody hashtagging about it.
We didn't have hashtag back then.
I guess they are beating up Asians like hot.
Touching shouts, yo.
It's just, I don't know, man.
Does it make any sense?
Surfshark Access Everything00:02:58
This, yeah, this stuff.
It makes sense in that you guys, you guys elevate your brand, I guess, or your awareness the more you argue.
So, like, yeah, just go at it.
I thought most of it was a waste of time, but that fucking tweet about her husband her brother.
I was like, now we go.
Now we're having fun.
That's a wild accusation.
I don't even understand how that comes into play.
Yeah.
Like that candidates would admit.
And the tweet says, now you're talking, not you talking about two women thrusting their vaginas together while you, your husband and brother, slap cocking balls together.
Like, what a funny fucking.
What move is that?
What slapping cocking balls together?
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I don't understand it.
Fans Demand Consistency00:09:56
Like, they got to be in this together.
They got to know what they're doing.
And even if they don't, like.
It's unspoken, I think.
Yeah.
Like, remember when we had Pompliano on here and he's like, listen, we go on the, I go on these like finance shows and I beef with these other guys, but it's all love.
It is what it is.
It's all wrestling.
This has got to be wrestling, bro.
When both parties are making money off of something, you can't hate the other person that much.
Yeah.
You can dislike them, but you also know what time it is.
Thank you for responding, Chiching.
I know.
Thank you for responding.
We don't like each other, but we also know what it is.
Exactly.
How this goes.
Yeah, you're not going to bite the hand that feeds you.
And to be honest, Candace is getting fed way more than Cardi.
Cardi don't need Candace.
Cardi is doing Candace a favor by reacting at all.
I might be Cardi just paying too much attention to Twitter and Instagram.
He has been oddly stepping into politics, weirdly.
But this is Cardi talking politics like Cardi would talk politics.
I don't want to hear about your policy, but like.
Your brother's gay.
Yeah.
That's like.
Yeah, shouldn't you like that?
Aren't you supportive of that?
Why should she just be doing the most?
This is how she deals.
I love how she's like a liberal activist and every once in a while be like, yeah, your bro sucks.
She just turns into a frat boy anytime you talk shit about her.
That's why it doesn't add up.
Why can't both sides just be like, yo, we're absolute fucking hypocrites about every single thing we preach?
Because they have to admit then that they're the same person.
And then the whole gig is the whole jig is up.
Then we all just see it.
Like, oh, you guys are just the same.
You believe different things, but only because you grew up differently.
You're the same type of mindset.
Then the rest of us just look at them like they're jokes.
They got to keep the beef going.
Yo, imagine not being a hypocrite, like living your life not being a hypocrite.
That wouldn't awful.
He'd still be in New York.
Bro, this guy's Hippocrates.
Yes, we do.
I'm Hippocrates, bro.
For real.
Fuck cutting me off in traffic until I need to cut a motherfucker off to get out this traffic.
Right about it.
So we should, honestly, if you do not live your life with a certain level of hypocrisy, thank you.
You knew I was about to speak.
I saw him in his eyes, bro.
Thank you.
What was he going to say?
Hypocrites.
Hippopotamus?
All the hippopotamus.
I saw him wanting to say Hippocrates and I was like, let's get there.
Thank you so much, bro, for saying.
But if you don't live your life with a certain amount of hypocrisy, you are living an absolutely miserable life.
And I'm not applauding you.
I'm not applauding you.
I'm not applauding you.
Like, oh, go.
Oh, you're not hypocritical about everything?
Brah, fucking bo, dude.
You know how hypocritical we are?
All we do is talk shit about hypocrites.
That's right.
And we are hypocrites.
I mean, is this the news cycle?
The politicians argue back and forth about who's the real hypocrite.
Then we hop on.
We're like, you're both fucking hypocrites.
And then we leave this and we just do hypocritical actions and then we move to Miami for four months after saying that we never leave New York and then ask fucking Ben Shapiro to come on the goddamn show.
Yeah.
What's crazy that the fans still the fans still eat it up?
That's the part that is bizarre to me.
You know what I mean?
Like both, both parties here, like they know they're both making money, but the fact that both sets of fans.
I mean, it's like reality TV to it.
They both think that they won.
That's what's crazy.
Yes.
Candace's fans are like, yes, Candace.
Killed and dunked on her.
They both think they won.
Yeah.
No score.
That's where sports is great.
I wonder if this is what.
That's a good point.
But I wonder if this is what they do.
Like if the strategy meeting is, who do my fans hate?
Right?
If they're going like, okay, Cardi B, who do your fans hate?
Oh, my fans hate Candace Owens.
Okay, that's who you're going to beef with.
And then Candace is like, who do our fans hate the most?
Cardi B.
Okay, that is your beef.
I wonder if it's not personal at all.
It's strictly numbers.
The Dana White of internet beefs.
Yes.
There's got to be a matchmaker.
A matchmaker for political and internet beef.
It's PR, yo.
It's all PR.
That's literally why you hire PR, I think.
But I don't even know if those PR motherfuckers know how to rile this shit up.
Like, PR, I think, is like, let's get you involved.
Yeah.
This is more sinister.
But I think now, because of all this internet shit, I think there's got to be a sector of these PR agencies.
100%.
And what I'm trying to figure out is who do our fans hate?
Stiff Socks, fuck those guys, huh?
Definitely don't start a beef with Stiff Sox podcast Our fans don't hate enough people.
Like, we brought Alex Jones on, and our fans were like, This is amazing.
I forgive them about the little kids didn't die and their school shooting.
That's what I did.
What you gonna do?
Hippocrates.
Yo, we're hypocrites.
Hippocrates out this bitch.
Dude, be a hypocrite.
That's a new way to live your life, man.
Yeah.
You know when Duval was like, yo, just live your best life, be a hypocrite?
Yeah.
Like, when does not being a hypocrite feel good?
Give me an example.
You know what I mean?
It's fun if you want to like win arguments, but also still have fun later.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Win the argument.
I like my girl called me a hypocrite the other day, and I'm like, the second we've done with this argument, I'm getting back to hypocrite.
Yeah.
The second I win this shit, I'm back to hypocrites.
High-intensity hypocrite training.
Yes.
I'm not a hypocrite for like 10 minutes.
Yo.
Double standards.
Lit.
Triple.
Lit.
Go triple.
Quadruple.
There's nobody that doesn't think they're lit.
Like when the double standard benefits women, are they ever like, we got to stop this?
Fuck.
Wow.
They think it's lit.
Everybody loves double standards.
You just don't like being doubled on.
Yeah.
Well, when it benefits you, you like it.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't like when you're the one doubled.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, but when you are doubling on somebody, let's go.
Yeah.
Dumbass.
Yeah, fuck your single standard.
They're getting doubled down.
You know what I mean?
One standard having a hell of a single standard.
Goofy.
You know, Ben Shapiro with his single standard.
Come on, nerd.
No.
You got to be autistic to have one standard.
You got to be, dog.
I think he's moved out to Florida.
Someone told me Ben Shapiro moved to Florida.
Really?
That's got to be hypocritical.
Nah, he's Jewish.
This is his homeland.
This is Zionist.
Moving back to Zion.
That's the Israel of America.
It really is.
It really is, bro.
I didn't even think they had a cynic Jews out here.
It's 90 degrees.
These motherfuckers walking around trench coats still.
Yeah, bro.
I hope they go to heaven.
They have paid their dues.
But let me tell you, if they don't, they're prepared for hell.
Those outfits are hot.
What if they think it's heaven?
Because they just get to take it off.
What if they just move here as preparation for the weather in hell?
What is it like?
Maybe the Christians are right.
Let's go to Florida.
Get used to it.
Acclimate a little bit.
You know what I mean?
All right.
So, what is the takeaway?
Hippocrates always wins.
Yo, Hippocrates always wins.
You're right.
Stop being so principled.
I'm tired of that shit.
I ain't principled.
Who cares, bro?
Lose some principles.
But I think the people with the most principles are the most hypocritical.
The people with the most.
That bang up.
Oh, shit, stiff socks.
Come.
But yeah, you built up so much shit.
There's so much room to be.
There's more shit than hypocritical.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, you said this is exactly how I live my life here on my rules.
And now we're sitting there duck hunting waiting to catch you fucking up.
But when we just come out here and be like, yo, your boy about to hypocrite it up today.
And then I don't, you're like, yo, Shells is really improving.
That's freaking no.
Or you just build your brain all fucked up.
And then no one goes, yeah, he fucked it, dude.
Of course he did.
That's the rock star shit.
Yep.
If you go into it going, I'm a piece of shit.
There's nothing I'm going to do this right.
I'm going to staple all the furniture in the hotel to the ceiling.
And then you help out one random Ethiopian that needs it.
You're like, yo, you're the best person in the entire world.
This guy fed one person.
But never tries to cancel rappers.
It's like, yeah.
They are murderers.
They talk about it.
They're being mental, beating their girlfriends.
He goes, can I tell you something?
I be trying to cancel these rappers that try to turn good.
You know, like when rappers try to help and like to be about the cause and TI is like, yeah, we need to be about woke shit, whatever.
And it's like, whoa, Yeah.
Go back to murdering.
Get back in the trap.
Yeah.
You are trap music.
This is trap music.
This is selling drugs music.
Too many big words, sir.
Yeah.
Hats are weird.
Too many words.
What the fuck you're saying?
Logic wears glasses.
I'm like, take those off.
I thought you meant T.I. and logic.
I mean, T.I. and logic.
Logic and Sean King.
Are you getting any white rappers?
Yeah, logic and Sean King.
Logic and Sean King are the same person.
That makes so much sense.
Oh, my God.
That makes so much sense.
Do you think?
I can check out.
Would that be hypocrisy?
I mean, we never seen him in the same room at the same time.
That's true.
You know what Sean King's arguments lack?
Logic.
Oh.
That was some crazy shit.
That was bars right there, bro.
We got to get Sean on the podcast.
How do we get him on the podcast, Al?
Ask.
Just ask.
Why'd you ask Al?
Yeah, I know.
What else he doing?
He's the black.
I think Al's got like a bat signal.
That motherfucker said on some podcast or some record of some shit.
I forget the exact.
He was talking about you.
And your man was Matt Charming.
He was so charming about it.
He was like, yo, Schultz, just reach out to me.
Just reach out.
If you ever want to have this conversation, you don't got to roast me in one of your ramp videos.
I love your stuff.
Just reach out to me.
We could talk about it.
Can I tell you something?
I tried to reach out to him.
I'm blocked.
You lying ass.
But I respected Hippocrates.
He was on his Hippocrates shit.
She was on his Hippocrates shit.
That was a petty win, though, for him.
He's like, I'm going to hit him up.
Fucking block.
But he did it wrong because he could have done this shit and everyone got way more clout.
You're right.
But then, but then people would call his out, his ass out.
Because, like you said, he got a list of things that he's got to live up to, bro.
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