Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect the upcoming April 17th boxing match between Jake Paul and Ben Askren, debating whether the fight serves as a strategic career pivot or a demographic bridge for UFC fans. They analyze Askren's wrestling background against Paul's weight advantage, noting the public's misconception that MMA specialists are equal boxers. While speculating on potential future matchups with Conor McGregor or Floyd Mayweather, the hosts question why fighters accept such bouts for relevance despite skill gaps, ultimately framing the event as a calculated move to legitimize Paul's status in the sports entertainment landscape. [Automatically generated summary]
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Jake Paul's Perfect Fight00:08:35
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Jake Paul got the perfect fight.
Yeah, you were exactly right.
This is the perfect fight.
Yeah.
I cannot pick a more perfect opponent for Jake Paul.
The Ben Askrin fight is confirmed?
Yeah.
April sometime on April.
17th, maybe or something.
Sounds right.
Something like that.
April 17th.
April 17th.
The only way it could be a little slightly bit more perfect is if Ben Askren was black.
That's the only way.
A racial component in a fight always peaks interest.
And I think that the highest selling fight, I think, in history before recent was Mike Tyson versus some like white stiffly or whatever the fuck he knocked out in 90 seconds, maybe?
I don't know.
No, I think there was another guy.
I'm forgetting who it is.
I mean, obviously, I think Floyd has surprised that Connor.
And also Oscar DeLoyo, but like Floyd Connor, Oscar de Ahoya, Mayweather.
Anytime you have competing countries or competing races, competing races, but like there's a racial component there.
It just ups the stakes of everything.
It's no different than like porn, right?
Black guy smashes out white girl.
You're like, ooh, it's a little different when it's a black guy.
Yeah, and I noticed like the underdog, if the people of that race think they can win.
Like Connor fans, these white guys really thought Connor could beat Floyd in the boxing match.
Yeah.
And Nate Robinson, black people really were like, nah, he can knock this white boy the fuck out.
I can't speak for black people.
Al, you're going to have to.
But how do I say this?
You wouldn't mind if Jake Paul got fucked up by a black dude?
Or you don't care at all?
I mean, is there a little payback?
No, it's not like payback for slavery or shit like that.
No, no, for Nate Robinson.
Not for slavery, but like.
Oh, for beating up Nate?
Absolutely.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, yeah.
My bad.
Jake Paul's responsible for the triangle slave trade?
I do blame them a little.
There are certain people that up, certain black people that operate in that way.
It's like, oh, they just want to see whites get beat up or they find it more funny when bad things happen to white people.
Yeah, the knockout game.
Yeah, because of nobody called that version.
Right?
The knockout game is just like old white guys just getting punched in their face.
Nah, they would punch black people too.
No.
They would punch black people too.
Really?
I'm just going to say that.
What?
You did it?
No.
Your friends did it?
You just punched a fucking random old black guy?
But Ben Askrin, is he nice?
Is he nice, though?
You just punched a random black person?
No.
Why would you do that, bro?
Son, I'm not speaking on stuff.
I'll just say that I didn't do it.
Oh, one of your friends did it.
Yeah, but I mean, whatever.
Why would he do that?
Did he know the guy?
You're a fucking asshole.
Ben Askrin is nice.
No, Ben Askron.
Nah, I don't want to talk about this shit.
You know who's not nice, a motherfucking friend of yours, knocking out.
Beating up black.
That's why I don't hang out with certain people anymore.
All right, that's good.
Well, don't call him your friend.
What a real jerk that guy is.
Yeah, that guy's a real scumbag.
What a scumbag.
What a good job.
Yeah.
Anyway, Ben Askrin, perfect opponent.
I mean, you could not pick a more perfect, but he is a great.
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
He's a great online troll.
He's articulate enough to get into banter.
He represents a completely different demographic than Jake Paul.
So now you're not both within the same demo.
You're taking guys that have no clue who Jake Paul is or don't give a fuck about Jake Paul and you're bringing them into the fight, right?
He can't box.
Yep.
He's an elite athlete that was in the UFC, was a champion in one championship, which is like the Asian version of UFC.
Elite, elite, elite.
Cannot box.
He was a wrestler.
That's what he was known for doing.
Can't box.
Like there are videos of him striking that are hilarious.
Jake Paul has a chance.
Jake Paul's no dummy.
He has a fucking chance.
He chose this guy on purpose, I think.
100%.
Now, the question is, I don't think a Ben Askrin's stamina is going to go away in the way that like Nate Robinson did.
And also, Ben Askrin has been hit really hard by the hardest punchers in the world.
So I don't know if it's going to sting the same way when Jake Paul hits him.
Granted, Jake Paul probably has, you know, 15, 20 pounds on him or something.
I don't know.
I actually just looked.
I think they're same weight class.
I think, wasn't Ben Askrin fighting at 170?
Ben Askrin is 170.
And according to this, Jake Paul is 165.
No, no, no, no.
I think he's weighed at 191 for the last fight versus Nate Robertson.
Maybe I got it.
Look at what he weighed for Nate Robinson.
But still, there's a little weight discrepancy, but you have a famous person with a different demographic, a real fight pedigree, right?
A UFC fighter.
If you want to grab Connor, knocking out another UFC fighter with a better record than Conor McGregor, we all know it's absurd, but the average casual fan is going to go, whoa, he just knocked out that UFC guy.
He'd probably knock out all these UFC guys.
Right.
Yeah.
He fought a cruiser weight and was 189.
189.
Right.
So he's, you know, he's got 20 pounds on Askrin in terms of like what Askrin's cut to make weight would be.
It's significant in boxing.
But still, it's going to be a different fight.
I think Askron would be able to like, you know, dodge punches a little bit better.
And he's not going to, his gas tank isn't going to go away like Nate Robinson.
So it's not going to be as like sad or whatever.
But I don't see Ben Askren having the hands to hurt Jake Paul at all.
The only way I can see him winning is if Jake gets tired and then Ben just kind of lays it on sloppily.
But they picked the perfect opponent.
Yeah, I was thinking about this.
The only other fight that I would like floated in my mind that I'd be curious to know about is if he were to fight like Ronda Rousey.
Who?
Oh, yeah.
Who?
You know what I mean?
Jake Paul.
I mean, just the guy versus girl thing.
It's just crazy.
But he would murder Ronda Rousey.
What Amanda Nunez?
Amanda Noons would be different.
I think he's still.
Like if he fights a champion like UFC fighter.
Ronda just can't box, but like.
Like does that help his stock at all or is that like a write-off because he goes, oh no, it was a girl.
That's a carnival.
That's a fucking carnival.
I mean, I'm by.
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I'm by 100%.
So I get to say that this is a good pick for him because he can actually probably win.
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I just don't think this is a good pick for what he's trying to do.
He's trying to turn celebrity boxing into like a big universal thing.
And I think that was done with the Nate Robinson versus the Pauls because it's like they two different worlds, but also it's like pop culture versus like this internet pop culture.
So it brought those two worlds together.
He's legitimizing.
I don't know, Askron.
Askron is going to bring all the UFC fans.
Yeah, so I'm saying.
So it's going to bring UFC and it'll bring Jake's fans, but it's not going to bring pop culture.
I think Jake is really involved in pop culture now, especially after knocking out Nate.
Like when this fight was announced, it's on Academics feed.
It's on Hot New Hip Hop's feed.
It's like, it's all over the place.
Like he's kind of transcended into pop culture now after that knockout.
I mean, there was a meme based on it.
Like people know who he is.
And then Askron is going to bring all the UFC fans that just want to see this guy get knocked the fuck out.
And then all the boxing fans that want to see him lose because they think that he's an insult to boxing, they're going to get involved in this shit.
I actually, I think it is a good thing for what he's trying to do because I don't think he's trying to just go celebrity boxing.
He wants to actually fight fighters.
I think he wants to do the biggest fight he can possibly get.
Also, what celebrity could he not fuck up and then make celebrity boxes?
He wants Connor McGregor.
He wants Floyd Mayweather.
He wants Manny Pacquiao.
He wants the biggest fighter he can get.
In order to get there, he's got to take down an actual fighter.
And he's an Askarin officer.
He is the safest fighter that he could fight in a boxing match.
In an actual UFC fight, he's out of his mind fucking crazy.
Askar ends up a beast of a wrestler, right?
Gets his hands on you, it's over.
Like Khabib in a lot of ways, right?
But I'm telling you, in a boxing match, you can put up videos of him boxing.
There's videos all over YouTube of him like trying to strike.
Yeah, slow.
Not pretty.
Not pretty at all.
So he has the perfect fight sport athlete in front of him to knock out potentially.
You know who the biggest winner in all this is?
Who?
Connor.
We touched on this last episode, but Connor is the guy that will win off of this because this legitimizes Jake Paul that much more and then makes that fight, Connor and Jake Paul, that much more legitimate.
And now you get to fight this kid.
I'm a little curious if he'd fuck him up with the weight difference.
Like Jake Paul versus Connor, boxing match pure?
I think Jake would have to come down a little bit.
But if Connor asks him to come down, Connor looks pussy.
Like, you can't say that he's not a fighter.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
He's just a YouTube kid.
And then you're like, let's have a catch weight.
Catch weight implies you're scared if he comes in at his actual weight.
So if there's a, what, a third?
You said Connor's the best at 155.
If Jake Paul is 191, that's a 36-pound difference.
I think Connor's the best at 145.
He just can't make that anymore.
Yeah.
155?
I don't think so, man.
I think it might be over for him over there.
But still, there's a big fucking difference.
Yeah.
He fought Nate, I think, at 170, but that's way too big for him.
But anyway, I think that if Askrin gets knocked out by Jake Paul, there is a real fight, Connor versus Jake Paul.
Now, my question is, why would Ben Askrin take this fight?
He just wants money.
Relevance also.
Just money, relevance.
I think he's looking at like an easy check.
Does he think he's going to lose?
No.
No chance.
He thinks he's going to win.
Yeah.
But also, he fought, he wrestled Jordan Burroughs, who's like the top wrestler in the U.S.
And they did like a wrestling-only tournament in Madison Square Garden.
And like Askrin brought hype to that event and he just got mauled by Burroughs.
And Askarin is like an amazing wrestler in MMA, but in just wrestling, I guess he's not as good as Burroughs.
But he went into that fight knowing he was going to lose.
But he was like, this is a cool event.
It's going to be big.
I'm sure I'm going to get a nice check off of it.
I'm not going to hurt myself.
I can still fight in the UFC.
I'm not going to be bloody.
Why don't we get it?
Asker's a kind of like a sophisticated dude in that regard.
Yeah.
Question.
Do you think Jake Paul cares more about gaining the respect of being recognized as a real boxer or his importance is to have the biggest pay-per-view boxing matches?
Addicted to attention.
Addicted to attention.
So he doesn't care about the respect.
It could be boxing.
It could be Formula One.
I think he likes boxing.
I think he likes boxing because it serves the type of attention that he wants.
What's that?
I think you can fight bigger celebrities and get a bigger payday.
Those celebs ain't fighting now.
After they saw it happen to Nate, it's going to be hard.
What's the left?
You'd have to get a very specific type of crazy athlete that would be down to do that.
There were some basketball players I remember after that were basketball players look so stupid when they try to box, bro.
Have you seen like Carmelo box?
You see Larry Johnson and Alonzo Morning slapping each other.
Yeah, it is amazing how the most coordinated and probably gifted athletes on the planet that are basketball players.
Some might say football, but still, are the most pathetic looking boxers that you will ever see in your entire life.
I mean, how many knockouts would we have in the NBA?
You have fights all the time.
Ron Ortiz punched a guy in the stands.
Couldn't even knock him out.
Ron Ortiz is six foot nine, right?
240 pounds, something like that.
Punched this 5'10 Mexican in the face, and the guy just stared at him afterwards.
And then Jermaine O'Neal had to come flying out from the side of the frame.
Do you remember that?
It was Jermaine O'Neal that knocks him out when he wasn't even looking.
Like your friend.
I'm just saying it is.
I remember Antonio Tarver called him out.
But Antonio Tarver is a professional boxer.
But I think that would get eyes.
Jake Paul ain't doing that.
He's going to get fucked up.
He knows what time it is.
Because Jake does know what time is when it comes to professional boxers.
What he's trying to do is take advantage of the difference between an MMA fighter's boxing ability and a boxer's boxing ability.
He's lily padding.
He's cool to lose, but he only wants to lose in the biggest fight.
Yes.
But he also knows that the general public doesn't realize that there's a vast difference between a boxer's boxing ability and an MMA fighter's boxing ability.
They both see them as like striking sports where you can knock someone out.
So they're like, oh, yeah.
There's a soft spot that he found, which is these guys who can box will come box and I can box.
And the public thinks they're the same.
So now I look like I'm a legit fighter.
But reality is I'm training in this one discipline that is vastly different from MMA.
I mean, like, if you even want to talk about like, I've done a little training in kind of MMA, right?
Like I do kickboxing, but they teach you to block as if it's MMA.
So in boxing, like when you have those big gloves, right?
Like you have, what, eight ounces of the small.
Usually when I would spar at 16 ounces, when someone throws a hook at you, you just cover up with the glove.
That glove covers your entire face.
So even if they land the punch on your face, you have 16 ounces of cushions.
They're putting a pillow on the side of your head.
Someone's punching you.
Right?
Four ounce little MMA gloves, you can't block with your hand on your face because that thing is getting through.
That's hitting you on the head, the back of the temple or something.
So a lot of the guys kind of are extending their arms a bit or just use their whole forearm to cover their face.
You ever seen people like kind of shell up like that?
I'm just saying, it's really smart what they're doing.
Really smart.
And eventually the public will realize, oh, these MMA guys aren't elite boxers.
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Yeah.
They're elite MMA.
Yeah.
It's like Andrew is good at basketball and then he challenges a fucking tennis player like whoever, Roger Fedder to a basketball game.
NBA fucking.
Yeah, we're a lot of people.
One foot.
Yeah.
A lot of idiots will be like, whatever.
That's an athlete.
That's one of the greatest athletes ever.
He'll fuck up, Andrew.
They don't realize how specialized basketball is.
And this guy's good at that one thing.
That's it.
He was early on that, son.
Son.
Started it.
That should have been millions.
That should have been a $50 million game right there.
Son, it's so funny how that blew up on YouTube and had nothing on TMZ.
I remember looking at the TMZ story.
Like, you know, like TMZ will do those links and it will show you how many comments are below.
Yeah.
And there were zero comments.
And I was like, did we turn off comments?
Like, is this that popping?
Censorship, dude.
Dude, they've really tried to censor me, bro.
They're trying to censor the kid, yo.
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