Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh - System Of A Down - F2P
Aired: 2019-05-24
Duration: 12:31


=== KD's No-Win Championship Situation (11:34) ===

[00:00:04]  If the Warriors win at the championship without KD.
[00:00:11]  Without KD, do KD's rings matter?
[00:00:14]  No.
[00:00:17]  No.
[00:00:18]  Talk to me.
[00:00:19]  I mean, I don't know if they don't matter, but diminishes the greatness.
[00:00:22]  If MJ sat out for a year and then the Bulls won the championship, is MJ still the GOAT?
[00:00:27]  That's a good point.
[00:00:28]  The fact that he lost those two years, I think were massive.
[00:00:32]  Yeah.
[00:00:33]  They made it to the conference semifinals, which I think says a lot about Pitt, and we underrate that.
[00:00:36]  Sure.
[00:00:37]  But if they won the whole thing, if they beat Houston in seven.
[00:00:41]  Yeah.
[00:00:44]  What difference is Michael Jordan?
[00:00:46]  And the Warriors aren't, they are undefeated since Kevin Durant went down.
[00:00:51]  Yeah.
[00:00:52]  That's a huge hit.
[00:00:54]  If they win without him, he has to go to New York.
[00:00:58]  So that's the next question is if they win without him, the only way he can maintain his legacy is if he leaves and replicates.
[00:01:10]  Yes.
[00:01:10]  Because right now, he's had the conversation around him, which is he's the best player playing right now.
[00:01:17]  That's happened a lot.
[00:01:18]  Best player in the league.
[00:01:19]  Best player in the league, right?
[00:01:20]  I don't know if you can still say.
[00:01:22]  And can you still, is he the best player in the league or is he just a really good player on an already amazing team that they've decided to have the game flow through?
[00:01:30]  Yes.
[00:01:31]  And I think if Steph wins it without him, we go, maybe KD is not the best player.
[00:01:37]  Maybe playing with Steph makes everybody on a team great.
[00:01:41]  Let me also say this.
[00:01:43]  I am openly a Steph hater and I hate KD going to the Warriors.
[00:01:47]  So like, I'm going to have my biases.
[00:01:49]  I also need to say this.
[00:01:50]  All the shit I talked about Steph in the playoffs, he is making everybody like me eat our words.
[00:01:55]  Yes.
[00:01:55]  He is fucking wow.
[00:01:58]  Yes.
[00:01:58]  I mean, he looks like man on fire.
[00:02:00]  Like, this is, this is, y'all must have forgot what we were before this guy.
[00:02:05]  I feel like there's a mission with him.
[00:02:07]  But if he wins, if they win at all, KD can not stay.
[00:02:12]  Cannot say.
[00:02:13]  And those rings that he won, I mean, look, they're still rings, but like, and this is a crazy thing to say, but are you Kenny Smith?
[00:02:23]  Whoa.
[00:02:24]  Wow.
[00:02:25]  Yeah, I know it's disrespectful, right?
[00:02:27]  But like, you had the, Kenny and him both had the advantage of going to teams that were really good, and you played a role on those teams, no doubt, but they had one before you.
[00:02:39]  And if Steph wins, they win without you.
[00:02:41]  So you are not necessary for a win.
[00:02:44]  Two with you, two without you.
[00:02:47]  Imagine that.
[00:02:48]  Two with you, two without you.
[00:02:50]  Think about that.
[00:02:51]  Everybody take that in.
[00:02:53]  Two with you, two without you.
[00:02:54]  That means that they didn't need you.
[00:02:56]  You needed them.
[00:02:58]  Yes.
[00:02:58]  Wow.
[00:02:59]  Well said.
[00:02:59]  Yeah.
[00:03:00]  If, again, hypothetical, but the fact that they are dominating teams, we're not talking about easy wins.
[00:03:06]  Right.
[00:03:07]  This is dominant wins here.
[00:03:11]  And Steph being the best player on the court, playing 47 minutes a game.
[00:03:17]  Is KD really there so Steph doesn't have to play 47 minutes?
[00:03:22]  KD was just there so they could beat LeBron.
[00:03:25]  And now that LeBron and the Cavs aren't a threat anymore, we don't need you.
[00:03:29]  You are younger Andre Iguadala.
[00:03:32]  Whoa.
[00:03:33]  We needed you to take out LeBron.
[00:03:35]  Whoa.
[00:03:37]  Listen, a guy as sensitive as KD and a guy who's on Twitter as much as KD and a guy who's on Instagram as much as KD has got to have processed this.
[00:03:46]  Oh.
[00:03:47]  Has got to have thought about strong that they're not strong.
[00:03:52]  Not even a commentary.
[00:03:53]  Like he's watching them win without him.
[00:03:55]  And I think he knows what's coming and he knows what's being said about him.
[00:03:58]  He knows what's going to be said about him.
[00:03:59]  And it's eating away at him.
[00:04:01]  And there is no fucking way he will stay if they win it all without him.
[00:04:05]  Or he, I mean, if he does, he's an absolute, like, you're a loser.
[00:04:08]  Like, you're not a loser, but we're never going to look at you historically.
[00:04:11]  We can't.
[00:04:12]  You're KD, right?
[00:04:13]  Do you play in the finals or do you run?
[00:04:14]  Wait a minute.
[00:04:15]  Now, you're just now you're contributing a lot.
[00:04:16]  I don't know.
[00:04:17]  No, why don't you just take that bread in your hand?
[00:04:20]  Okay.
[00:04:22]  Make a bun out of it.
[00:04:25]  I'm sorry.
[00:04:32]  Eden Gonzalez, everybody.
[00:04:34]  No, no joke.
[00:04:35]  Alec just grabbed the mic with his tongue to take it away from Eden.
[00:04:39]  Son, that shit was unreal, bro.
[00:04:42]  I can't believe you did that shit.
[00:04:44]  Yo, what were you going to say?
[00:04:45]  Motherfucker looked like Venom.
[00:04:47]  So, so from what you guys were saying now, right?
[00:04:49]  So if you're KD, do you play during this finals or do you rest up?
[00:04:53]  Son, if I'm KD, I try to get in those finals as much as I possibly could because my reputation is dependent on it.
[00:04:59]  Facts.
[00:05:00]  You know what I mean?
[00:05:01]  Maybe, maybe.
[00:05:02]  Close, close, close.
[00:05:03]  Go on.
[00:05:04]  Maybe like at the first sign of trouble, I'm in there.
[00:05:06]  No, no.
[00:05:07]  And I come to the rescue.
[00:05:08]  Selfishly.
[00:05:08]  Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:05:09]  You know what I mean?
[00:05:10]  But like, even if they're winning, even if they won two games, I need to get in there because if I'm not playing, we're talking about KD not playing and stuff, so winning.
[00:05:20]  If I don't play at all in the finals and they win without me, history will write my story as a useless player in terms of those two rings that I won.
[00:05:28]  But if they're up 2-0, I guess history will still, as long as you contribute to the championship, it will matter.
[00:05:34]  And remember, this is going to be on the road, those first two, those first two games.
[00:05:37]  This is the first time they haven't had home court in the finals.
[00:05:39]  Yeah.
[00:05:40]  So if the Warriors win the first two on the road, I am telling you: if I am the motherfucker, if I'm KD, if I'm his manager, if I'm his agent, if I'm anybody that cares about him at all, I am trying to find ways to get in that game.
[00:05:53]  I don't care if I come off the bench.
[00:05:54]  I don't care if I pay 15 minutes.
[00:05:56]  I need to contribute to this championship because if I don't, they will say that these rings would have been won without me.
[00:06:03]  And I just, like I always, everybody's always said, hopped on the bandwagon and got what was theirs.
[00:06:08]  Will it matter if they lose or if they win by less when he gets in the game or if they lose a game or two when he's in there?
[00:06:14]  Let's say they're up 2-0.
[00:06:16]  If he comes back and they lose, and they lose a game.
[00:06:18]  Holy shit.
[00:06:20]  I mean, holy shit.
[00:06:22]  I don't know.
[00:06:22]  To me, I think this is making KD's job to leave a lot easier.
[00:06:27]  Wait.
[00:06:28]  Win or lose.
[00:06:28]  Win or lose.
[00:06:29]  You know what I mean?
[00:06:30]  Like, the fact that they're just fine without him, I think he's in a no-win situation when he comes back.
[00:06:36]  Did you just put in retainers?
[00:06:37]  No, they've been in the whole time.
[00:06:38]  Oh, okay.
[00:06:39]  Sorry.
[00:06:39]  Just trying to swallow some spit.
[00:06:42]  I think he's in a no-win situation if he comes back or not.
[00:06:45]  Because if they win by a lot, that's like, all right, yeah, well, of course, he's supposed to do that.
[00:06:48]  But if they either lose by a couple or they lose a game or they're not as dominant, you know, it's going to look, they're going to look at, you know, maybe they're better without you.
[00:06:57]  Maybe they don't need you.
[00:06:58]  And, you know, it makes the job easier for him to leave that much simple.
[00:07:02]  And if I'm the Knicks, I hope they win without him because he can't go to a stacked team.
[00:07:09]  Like, I would be, if I'm KD, at that point, I'd be like, get me Kemba, don't get me Kyrie.
[00:07:14]  Because I need to be the undisputed alpha dog of this fucking team.
[00:07:18]  And we will win.
[00:07:19]  And I need to be the guy unquestioned.
[00:07:21]  Kyrie will question.
[00:07:23]  I already think it's better to build a team with Kevin Durant and Kemba than Kevin Durant and Kyrie.
[00:07:27]  But if I'm Kevin Durant, I'd be like, I don't want no motherfuckers out here acting like they're the only one with a ring.
[00:07:34]  Yeah.
[00:07:34]  He needs to be the only one with a ring, maybe a vet, but not a guy like Kyrie who could say, no, I've been here.
[00:07:38]  I've hit big shots in the past.
[00:07:40]  That's my only drama.
[00:07:41]  That's my only drama.
[00:07:42]  So this could potentially be the best scenario for the Knicks.
[00:07:46]  Of course.
[00:07:47]  I'll be careful about getting hopeful.
[00:07:48]  No, I don't want to get too old.
[00:07:49]  Imagine, obviously, like you said, it makes it easier for KD to leave, but it also makes it easier for KD to go, hey, I don't want Kyrie because I'm not going to have a repeat of what happened in Golden State where a point guard has taken all the glory that should be mine.
[00:08:04]  I need Kemba.
[00:08:05]  I think the Knicks are in the best case scenario right now.
[00:08:08]  I think because the fact that they didn't get Zion.
[00:08:10]  Yeah.
[00:08:10]  Because if KD and Kember Kyrie come to the Knicks and you get Zion Williamson and he's not developing at the pace that you expect him to, he's getting the LeBron comparisons, he's getting the Barbie comparisons, and he's not getting those touches that he's going to get in New Orleans or Memphis or wherever he would have ended up at.
[00:08:27]  You got RJ Barrett, who's the perfect complimentary guy.
[00:08:30]  At his peak, you know what I'm saying?
[00:08:32]  At his peak, is he ever going to be better than KD?
[00:08:34]  Probably not.
[00:08:35]  Is he ever going to be better than Kyrie or Kembo?
[00:08:37]  Probably not.
[00:08:37]  He might get close.
[00:08:38]  He might get close, but Zion, Zion, that once-in-a-generation dude.
[00:08:42]  So if I'm the Knicks, I'm happy with, you know, the Warriors winning without KD, sweeping through the Blazers, probably going to sweep through the Eastern Conference winner or whatever like that.
[00:08:52]  I'm happy, bro.
[00:08:54]  I'm in a good mood.
[00:08:55]  I'm, you know, KD to the Knicks is feeling more realistic by the day.
[00:08:59]  KD cannot be tweeting.
[00:09:01]  He's getting real spicy with the clapbacks and Chris Broussard with the motherfucking, you know, so happy to see that.
[00:09:08]  I love it.
[00:09:09]  And I don't dislike Chris Broussard, but all these insiders who act like they're homies with the players, I feel this way about Stephen A.
[00:09:16]  I find that shit annoying.
[00:09:18]  To be fair.
[00:09:18]  And if we can put up the tweet, to be fair, Broussard responded and he said, you know, and he's an old, he's an old head.
[00:09:24]  So he was like, Instagram DMs, whatever, texting, it's all the same thing.
[00:09:29]  So I guess he was trying to clear up the fact that when he's talking about, oh, me and KD text for hours.
[00:09:33]  We've talked for hours.
[00:09:35]  He's basically saying we've slid each other's DMs and talked.
[00:09:37]  Talking for hours over DM could be four messages.
[00:09:41]  Yeah.
[00:09:42]  And KD doing the pulling the whole semantics thing with like, all right, like, don't act like you haven't spoken.
[00:09:47]  Like, if he says, yo, you don't have your number?
[00:09:49]  Yeah, you're right.
[00:09:50]  He doesn't have your number.
[00:09:50]  I was screenshot.
[00:09:51]  But, bro.
[00:09:53]  I was screenshot.
[00:09:54]  Bro.
[00:09:54]  So the quote from Chris Brussard: KD and I have a love-hate relationship.
[00:09:59]  We've texted for two, three hours straight about life, basketball, media, faith.
[00:10:04]  KD has gone at me much harder privately.
[00:10:06]  We make a living for taking athletes.
[00:10:07]  It would be hypocritical of us not to be able to take it.
[00:10:09]  KD responds.
[00:10:10]  Texted is perfect.
[00:10:12]  Yeah, DMs are texts.
[00:10:14]  KD responds, cap, cap, cap, cap.
[00:10:16]  You don't have my number, man.
[00:10:17]  But DMs are texts.
[00:10:19]  That's the same shit.
[00:10:20]  Sure.
[00:10:20]  It's kind of messed up.
[00:10:21]  KD knows what he's doing.
[00:10:23]  Katie knows what he's doing by shitting on the guy like that, like kind of making him seem like unreputable.
[00:10:27]  So you do think they have spoken for hours on end.
[00:10:30]  I think so.
[00:10:31]  I think they've spoken.
[00:10:31]  Thorough conversations.
[00:10:33]  I think both could be right.
[00:10:34]  I think there's a world where Chris Bussard doesn't have KD's number and maybe he's exaggerating a little bit.
[00:10:40]  I think there's a world where Chris Broussard has DM'd KD for a while and they've gone back and forth.
[00:10:45]  Like we've all noticed that it's not above KD to be on Twitter at all hours of the day talking to whoever.
[00:10:51]  So I think they could both be right.
[00:10:52]  KD be responding to anybody's DMs.
[00:10:54]  Yeah.
[00:10:55]  I think there's truth on both sides.
[00:10:57]  But for the sake of the Knicks, fuck Chris Brussard.
[00:11:02]  And I'll fuck with Chris Bussard, man.
[00:11:04]  KD fucks with Chris Boussard, but fuck Chris Broussard.
[00:11:08]  Yo, Chris Bussard's nice, bro.
[00:11:09]  He came in turn.
[00:11:10]  I've heard he can hoop.
[00:11:11]  Bro.
[00:11:11]  I've heard he can hoop.
[00:11:12]  He's a bucket.
[00:11:13]  Really?
[00:11:13]  He's an actual bucket.
[00:11:14]  I'm not going to hold you.
[00:11:15]  I'm not.
[00:11:16]  No fucking lies here.
[00:11:17]  I've hooped with Chris Broussard.
[00:11:19]  I've seen him give people the work.
[00:11:21]  Would he beat you one-on-one or is that just?
[00:11:23]  Beat me one-on-one?
[00:11:25]  It'll be a good game.
[00:11:28]  I'm not going to hold you.
[00:11:28]  Like, the dude could shoot.
[00:11:30]  He's not somebody who's going to drive all the time.
[00:11:32]  He has a nice little pull-up.
[00:11:32]  He's got some range and shit.
[00:11:34]  I'm like, okay, Chris Broussard.
[00:11:35]  I got to get your buckets.
[00:11:37]  But yeah, no, he could go.

=== The Chris Broussard Hoop Story (00:53) ===

[00:11:38]  So I know you guys have been waiting for this.
[00:11:40]  Oh, man.
[00:11:42]  I know you guys have been waiting for this story, and I know we've teased it.
[00:11:46]  Yeah, okay.
[00:11:47]  I think it'd only be right if we tell this story in the baby emoji or the baby Snapchat filter.
[00:11:53]  In the baby Snapchat.
[00:11:54]  No, obviously.
[00:11:56]  But okay, so here's the story.
[00:11:58]  And again, there's nothing redeeming about this story.
[00:12:02]  Listen, there is nothing funny about this story.
[00:12:04]  It is as awful as awful can get.
[00:12:07]  But I will tell you guys the story and we won't go with it as we will.
[00:12:13]  Oh, boy.
[00:12:14]  Hit me.
[00:12:17]  Yo, what's up?
[00:12:18]  This is Akash.
[00:12:19]  That was a preview of our Patreon episode.
[00:12:21]  If you want the full thing, go to www.patreon.com slash flagrantrue.
[00:12:26]  Join the illest community on earth.
[00:12:28]  Unless you're a social justice lawyer, then you're just going to ruin the fun.