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This past week was one for the history books in the long tortured and frankly deserved decline of America and possibly its rejuvenation.
Never in my life have I seen as much white racial awareness as in the aftermath of Irina Zarutska's slaughter, nor have I seen such widespread fury at the animalistic, sadistic brutality we all know is an inborn capability of the African.
It's too soon to tell, but the murder of Charlie Kirk probably also ranks up there with the prominent political assassinations of the 1960s in its effect on the American consciousness.
The fact that his killer appears to be a once normal suburban white kid raised by a loving family only to be infected by the plague bacillus of radical leftism is a long overdue wake-up call for the American right.
God knows we've been trying to tell them for a decade or more.
Scores of prominent white right-wingers have also spoken or typed a mighty game in the wake of the assassination.
Whether that is typical social media bluster or something that might be more lasting and meaningful is largely in the hands of our political elite, but also to some extent in our own.
God knows we've had dozens of similar or worse atrocities in the past decade, only to keep lumbering down the tracks in this cursed train.
If we've made progress, it's been damn slow, halting, and frustrating.
Thousands of our own have been similarly cut down due to their race, only to earn scant local news coverage and perhaps live on in the memory of white nationalists and their families.
I tend to downplay major events almost immediately these days, given experience.
Our collective attention spans are shorter than ever.
There's always some new shiny distraction to move on to.
And your social media algorithm and chat groups are not exactly representative of popular opinion.
But there is also something about the back-to-back murders, both captured in vivid color video in their gory details, and both ending in lurid, bright arterial neck bleeds, both utterly unprovoked, that hopefully leaves a deep and noble scar of resolve on anyone worth a damn left in this country.
All the same, my worldview and aspirations have evolved from the grandiose in the heyday of the alt-right, we're saving the white race, to a more provincial and cynical one with another decade under my belt, fewer infuriations after moving to white rural America, and of course, scores of disappointments during that time.
So instead of getting whipped up into another white righteous lather this past week, I simply tried to use it as personal motivation, to dust off the talk with the kids, to take stock of home security and personal defense items, to engage more with my comrades, and yes, to contribute more to the conversation right here.
Sometimes we all need a good kick in the teeth to remind us that life is a never-ending struggle and that some disturbingly large number of Americans would gleefully dance on our graves were our throats to be slashed on a city train or if we were gunned down while trying to improve this madhouse in a civil public way.
So we are back, and Mr. Producer, hit it.
Welcome back, everyone, to Full House, the world's most grateful-to-be-alive show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole family.
It's episode 215.
It's September 12th, 2025.
And I am your re-energized host, perhaps Coach Finstock, back with another two hours of existential news analysis and maybe even some entertainment later in the show.
It's been over a month since we last recorded.
Call it summer break, if you must, but huge thanks nonetheless to Charles, Johnny, Joe Boston, and the White Stag Athletic Club for their kind support after our last show.
If you enjoy this one and get something out of the episode, you'll find us at givesendgo.com slash fullhouse.
And after all that and my dog nestling up next to me for a quick pet, let's get on with it.
First up, the first thing that came to mind when I saw that train slaughter footage was his trademark.
They're devils.
Sam, that's true.
And welcome back, big guy.
Oh, yeah.
You know it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's good to be back, Coach.
Boy, there's so much going on.
You know, so many things like that, also that Tranny shooting in Minnesota there at the school and all that.
There's so many things going on.
But, you know, thank goodness the Cracker Barrel logo thing's going to get settled, right?
Yeah.
Really put that in perspective, right?
Yeah.
Well, but seriously, though, I did think some people had weird takes about that.
Like, you know, of course, no one thinks that that's any kind of important win.
I mean, like, what kind of person would think that that is some great victory?
But I think that many or some perhaps missed the point.
Yeah, we know that the Cracker Barrel logo thing in a sense doesn't mean anything, but it is a barometer that white people are making their displeasure felt and it is being felt.
You know what I'm saying?
No, the thing itself is utterly symbolic and means nothing, but I think it is a bellwether because it is one of those times where the rage is spilling out and spilling over.
So rather than calling people stupid because they thought that that issue was something or that people felt like they needed to weigh in on it, I think instead we should take the lesson that finally and in issue after issue, white people are making their displeasure felt and making their approval or disapproval felt.
Even if it's small ball like that.
Yeah, I never would have thought that you were going to open up with Cracker Barrel here, Sam, when I saw that whole thing.
You know, I was not going to poo-poo it and stupid rubes caring about your old man on a barrel.
And you're right, you know, to the respect that there was a mild digital peasant and I guess wallet uprising against that to make any corporation back down and go back to the old ways.
You know, you could make the snarky comment, oh, well, at least you conserve the Cracker Barrel logo and the brick-a-brack at all of those outlets so that you could enjoy your, you know, factory potato and egg slop for breakfast and brunch.
But point, point taken.
Yep, I agree with you.
There's no need like you if if that was all that was going on and you know everybody was quiet and sort of like let's not be racist about the two other massive events, then you could say, yeah, that's all that they're worth is getting worked up over their corporate logo for brunch.
But yeah, point made.
All those points and anger is a good thing.
Sure.
It's a barometer and people are noticing it and feeling it.
And that's the lesson to take from that.
And that, as far as it goes, is good.
Amen, buddy.
Anything here at the top real quick, hot in personal life before we talk about the dark world out there and frankly, exciting and interesting one.
Yeah.
Well, it's it's it's uh yeah, there's been a lot of stuff going on with health and work, but uh everything's going good.
Uh finally the the weather's cooling off.
We had a extremely brutal summer in our parts anyways, a good, you know, month or more of consecutive very hot weather, but it's cooling off a little bit.
It's, you know, the plant is very busy and things are going good for me personally.
Outstanding.
Yeah, we'll get to some more personal and family stuff in the second half, but I do have to tell the audience that Sam, our, you know, senior elder statesman and mild mannered father of many, does have an awesome t-shirt on that just says white power with not a white t-shirt with the black swastika in the center of it.
And you do not have a t-shirt that cool in your closet, probably 95% of the audience.
Well, and we made these ourselves at our last big gathering, actual silk screen where you have like a wooden box with a screen and you run the whatever it's called.
You run the bar across it and you make the ink go on to the certain areas.
So it's very authentic and, you know, reminiscent of the 60s.
It's classic.
I walked by my son earlier this evening.
I just walked by him in the hallway.
He just said classic.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Show that classic on the streets of Southside Chicago this weekend, Sam.
Let's see what you're made of.
Amen.
All right.
Welcome back.
And next up, if I was way ahead of him on the radicalization scale in 2015, I think he may have leapfrogged me in intensity and dedication at some point in the past year or two.
Rolo, welcome back, buddy.
Full of fire these days.
I see it.
I like it.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Do you like my shirt?
I can't see your shirt.
I see your beer can or your hard cider.
Still can't see your shirt.
To say our desktop.
Okay.
Sorry.
Otto Scorsny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sam's got the big, yeah.
Sam's up top.
You and me are small there in the in the video.
God bless fiber optic.
Well, you know, well, Sam, I'm glad it's cooling off where you are.
It's hot AF where I am and it's miserable and it sucks and I hate it.
And it's like the dust bowl here.
We haven't had rain for about 10 days and the next 10 days are dry.
So we got a lot of dirt roads around here.
And if you just do 10 miles an hour down a dirt road here, it looks like you've started a forest fire or you're an oakie in the 30s.
It's it's really dry, but everything is.
Smash bowl, smush bowl.
I ain't going to California.
Yes, I'm not leaving West Virginia unless I have to, unless they have to drag me out of here and cuffs are in a casket, although casket, I prefer to be buried here too.
But let's get cracking, gents, and we'll do reverse chronological order, start with what is still the number one news story in the world, really.
And F for Charlie.
It's more important currently, short term, or even long term, I think.
Hopefully, hopefully long term.
And I'll share my personal reaction to it because the audience probably knows that the alt-right white nationalist, the far right, the radical right, whatever you want to call it, has mercilessly mocked Charlie, perhaps unfairly for his appearance, but more importantly for his milquetoast cockservatism.
Go ahead, Sam.
The gigantic head with the tiny little face.
Is that what you're referring to?
He does look like one of those 80s critters.
I think, you know, not to speak ill of the dead.
I mean, that was always cheap, but that was that was an angle of attack because his appearance kind of matched with his politics, which we, of course, rightly judged as weak, civic nationalist.
He disavowed us before, you know, boom, Botswana has legalized homosexuality.
Yeah, that was the thing that meant me.
We were like, you got to give me a break.
However, full honesty with the audience, when I happened to be online at the moment that it broke and I was instantly sad, sickened, no joy, no gloating.
And I'm not doing this to be diplomatic or whatnot.
I was just like, you know, yeah, he was a white man, Christian with a white wife, so far as we know, not Jewish, two beautiful girls.
And the thing that killed me was there was some footage.
He was doing an interview and they were on a break.
And I guess his wife was there with her kids and his oldest daughter just ran to daddy, so happy to see him, just on a simple break in some TV studio.
And that got me misty.
You know, it's easy to bury the hatchet when someone is brutally slaughtered.
And I'm not interested in retrofitting his views to be ours or anything like that.
But the most important thing for me, aside the fact that I'm a normal human being and I'm not a ghoul and I didn't celebrate him, I was glad that he went probably instantaneously and didn't have to suffer.
Pretty sure that shot took him out instantaneously.
But just the fact that he was willingly or unwillingly, you know, whether he was doing it because he had a new awareness and information about the way of the world or because the way of the world was forcing him to go right to keep up with the youth in America and the college campuses and stuff like that.
He was getting better.
And he's in his early 30s, you know, in my early 30s.
I'm sure I had massively cringe tweets and some worldviews.
Listeners will remember me arguing against immigration because it suppressed black employment prospects, that sort of stuff.
So, well, yes, it does.
I just don't care.
They're not going to work anyways.
Yeah.
But point being, and I won't belabor this, but like I was legitimately sad and angry.
He was cut down by a radical leftist.
We'll talk about that later.
And whether he was great or going to be great or whether he was a cul-de-sac and a gatekeeper, I think he was on a better path.
And I mentioned when he was on Tucker, I tuned in as if to eat popcorn and listen to the cringe.
And I was pleasantly surprised that it did not sound remotely like the GOP incorporated slop that I expected from him.
And supposedly he was pushing back on Trump and striking Iran and all the stuff with BB and stuff.
So I legitimately am sad and mourn him.
I hope that he becomes a martyr for a harder and more dedicated white right wing in America.
Well, he already is.
And then the thing is a long-term martyr.
Yeah.
What his death really showcased is just how ghoulish the left is.
And I've been saying this for years.
Yeah.
Well, no, it was like the celebration of his death.
Yeah.
And I brought this up in a chat.
One of the people in our bowling league people quotes, this black guy, and he was celebrating it.
And then everyone else was like, like, what's wrong with you?
And then he was freaking out at people like, you're not happy that this fascism.
What's wrong with you?
I didn't know you were all white supremacists.
Like he was like, he was mad that people were upset that he was mad.
And that's what people are seeing more than anything.
I also got, I also got misty-eyed when he died.
And I've made fun of him plenty of times in the past.
I don't like him.
And I'm sure if like he's sat down with me, so tell me, what are you all about?
And I told him what I was all about.
He said, well, you're not, you're, this, the America that we're trying to build has no place for people.
You're part of the problem.
Yeah.
But the, but the thing is, they didn't kill him because they're like, I'm going to take out this milquetoast moderate Republican who just wants to have pointless talks with people that are never going to listen.
No, they thought he was us.
And the fact that, and I said this before on this.
Which also highlights their retardation.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
They're libtards for a reason.
But I've said this on this show is we have said far worse than anything that he said.
Of course.
So if they're, they're willing to take this guy out because he's saying, why do you think that someone should get a job hiring just based on ethnicity or sexuality?
Like that's enough for them to set it off.
Now, imagine the like how hardcore you could get.
And these people, they're not just, they're not just like willing to like kill, but they're going to cheer on the murderers.
And that's going to activate even more crazy people.
That's where you should really be scared is a lot of these people.
And there was a video going around of some guys like, oh, I went to school with him.
I don't really know.
I saw him for a few years.
I would just describe him as like typical like Redditor kid.
And then that's where these people do get radicalized is they're on Reddit all day and they talk to people that have the exact same opinion.
Discord.
Yep.
Discord too.
Yeah.
And they follow them into these other places and they all turn political.
I've had some run-ins with people like this and they all get radicalized and they all end up quite Antifa out.
And I don't know how far you want to get into this, but I said from the beginning, my prediction was John Brown gun club.
Yes, yep.
Straight out of the way.
Now, I don't know if it's John Brown.
I think he's Tranny too, which I guess.
I said most likely Tranny.
I did Tranny first.
I said most likely Tranny given the pattern.
But now I wouldn't be surprised if he either had an online sexual relationship with the Tranny or an IRL sexual relationship with the Tranny.
Neither of that would surprise me, but definitely radicalized by Antifa in one form or another.
And that's absolutely true.
And I am so sick of the schizos and the monomaniacal Israel Jew focused guys.
Don't get me wrong.
There's okay.
There's a place for that.
But in our in-house poll of well over 100 white men of our worldview, I said, who killed Charlie?
A self-motivated leftist or was it an Israel slash Jew ordered hit?
That was the day before they caught him.
And it was 65% self-motivated leftist, 35% Israel Jew ordered hit.
Now, I don't denigrate anybody who thought it was BB or Mossad or the Jews.
It just always struck me as a bridge too far.
You know, somebody possibly slipping his leash and then let's JFK him in public.
Charlie Kirk, really, that level of risk and complication.
No, they would take out Tucker before they take out Charlie Kirk.
Right.
And they would probably, like, are they really comfortable?
If they did kill Charlie Kirk, oh, Charlie Kirk has passed away in the middle of the night.
Oh, yeah, he had a history of heart problems that he wanted to keep silent from the public.
Oh, you know, our heart go out.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
And yeah, go ahead, Sam.
Well, yeah, you haven't, you have probably heard that people have strung together some videos and quotes where he was starting to question his position on Israel.
And supposedly somebody has him quoted.
He's even saying, I'm afraid they would kill me if I start changing my position on Israel.
And lo and behold, he ends up dead.
So I don't think you can dismiss it completely, but the two choices you gave could be the same thing.
You know, the subtle planning things, the way that they, you know, look at 9-11, for instance, how did that happen?
You know, you don't, the people who are the planners of it don't have to carry it out themselves.
They, they configure the circumstances so that it happens the way that they 100%.
The head of the snake both provides the talking points and the money and the marching orders that filters down to general society.
And that in this case.
There's no reason to believe that Netanyahu does not have a guy that says like, hey, like, hey, pass this down to the Antifa in New Jersey or something.
Well, and the, you know, why him?
Well, I mean, you just use your imagination.
I mean, maybe Tucker has better security.
Maybe it's too hard to get to him.
Maybe there's reasons to that Charlie Kirk.
Too many eyes would be suspicious.
Tucker's been talking about Israel for a while.
Well, or maybe this is an upcoming guy and there's somebody says we can't lose another one.
They lost Candace Owens.
They lost Tucker or others maybe.
And this guy does have more reach.
Maybe he's developing more reach than even we know.
And they decided to take him out.
I don't know.
It's not impossible to think that.
I'm not saying that I do or don't believe it.
I'm just saying I don't know.
And it's not impossible.
It beggars belief.
I mean, you would think if the Jews were going to set up a Charlie Kirk hit, that they would have made it a white nationalist neo-Nazi bigot xenophobe, you know, one of the guys who made Charlie Kirk memes for 10 years.
And then you've got a white boogeyman instead of a leftist, instead of a leftist.
Yeah, but I mean, why would they, you know, if an anti-fascist kills Charlie Kirk, the logical mind or the thinking mind would thus say, huh, I am against the anti-fascists.
Maybe there's something to this authoritarianism, which even if you have a whole lot of baggage associated with Hitler and the Third Reich and the Holocaust, you're like, these rabid dogs need to be put down.
And yes, I will say that we have been shouting that from rooftops, at least since Charlottesville, anybody who was there and saw that hideous, filthy, violent, disgusting mob and knew that they were the ones who attacked us be like, hello.
Yes, they would have killed, you know, they would have killed us.
I'm frankly shocked that they did.
Yep.
So, you know, welcome to the party, pal.
Now, to my point in the beginning about being reactionary or jaded in response to all that stuff, the social media influence on the way that we perceive the world, which I fully embraced and like was just wallowing in gleefully, you know, five years ago before the band started happening out.
It's like, I don't want to live my life that way again online, creating propaganda, thinking in Twitteres.
But just because your entire Twitter algorithm is full of images of Arena and Charlie and blood-curdling calls for war from the likes of Matt Walsh, that certainly matters.
Like those people have millions upon millions of views.
But it's like a curated worldview that doesn't necessarily mean this is the biggest thing since the JFK assassination.
I was trying to think of what, obviously, JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, all those 60s assassinations.
If that white leftist had killed Steve Scalise and a gaggle of other GOP congressmen at that softball game, would it have been as big a deal?
I don't know.
That one kind of didn't serve to radicalize many people at the time.
Looking back, did a lot change?
Steve Scalise is still walking around.
Yeah.
I know it's all set up.
Because the thing that heartened me was when I saw they were having some kind of tribute memorial there to Charlie Kirk.
And then some leftist was there and all these kind of boomer conservatard people that would not be our guys by any means, but they were surrounding this guy and punching him and kicking him.
And, you know, it's there's part of you inside you want to see the right, I'll call it broadly, the right to do to the left what the left has been doing to the right for my entire life.
Yep.
And he was undoubtedly a craven Israeli bootlicker for the majority of his career.
Absolutely.
No question about it.
But he was also net net.
And it's struggling to get this out of my mouth.
I don't think I'm rationalizing this in the event of his death and trying to be pragmatic about this and not, you know, I don't think we have too many Charlie Kirk big fans in the audience who we need to appeal to.
But I respect the guy's hustle and dedication.
His, you know, he put in the work.
When you listen to that Tucker interview, which is the most recent big interview that I'm aware of that he did, you could tell that he was absolutely committed dude to more good than bad, despite the disgusting Israeli sycophancy, which clearly was a condition of the funding.
I mean, he started out as a middle-class kid from the Midwest who got rejected the West Point.
And apparently that sparked the fire in him to go be this politico.
During the Tea Party years, I was a moronic civic nationalist conservative in the Tea Party years.
And he got started then and got his bread and butter and couldn't exactly go full alt right and still maintain influence with politicians.
I'm not interested in making excuses for him, but the arc of his career was getting better.
He was getting more talented.
Net net, he was persuading college kids to not descend into that viper's nest of leftism.
He was clearly a devout Christian.
His wife could not stop citing the Bible and her semi-eulogy from his old studio with the empty chair tonight.
And I have to believe that the vast majority of his adherents are not going to go running into the arms of Ben Shapiro as if this was the plan all along, but instead are going to realize that nice, kind Charlie was murdered by a kid who got radicalized on Discord, right?
I mean, that's, it's bizarre beyond belief.
Yes, I do think that's what I'm saying.
I think there's going to be less people.
I think less people are focusing on the Charlie Kirk murder.
And like, as far as normies go, like Charlie Kirk fans are going to kind of stay there.
But I think regular people are just seeing the reaction.
I think that's the real story here.
Like that overshadowed the murder, I think.
Oh, you think the glee is more important than the murder?
I don't know.
I think I think it overshadowed it for regular people, like people that don't pay too much.
Like you, if you hate Charlie Kirk, you're probably glad he's dead.
If you love Charlie Kirk, you're going to be sad.
If you're somewhere in the middle where you're just like, because he's been around long enough that if you have any kind of understanding of mainstream politics, you know that Charlie Kirk is around.
But just seeing the amount, like some guy actually texted me, like that's how I found out about this thing.
A guy I knew texted me.
He's like, dude, Jamal is going off.
I was like, about what?
And he just says, bruh.
And I said, oh, is he glad Charlie Kirk's dead?
And he's like, yeah.
And then he just sent me some screenshots.
Like regular people are seeing that.
And then like that's scary that people are openly celebrating murder.
Like that's, that's insane.
Yeah, it's, it's, this, this whole story is one of the Overton window being shifted, you know, even with Charlie Kirk himself with his development of his ideas.
Keep in mind, he's only 31 years old.
I mean, 10 years ago, he's 21, you know, like you said, coach, think of your cringe quotes or whatever.
2012, 2013, 2014, there was a lot of cringe and cuckery still lingering.
I was slowly but surely mercilessly exterminating it.
In reality, it was doing that too.
But, you know, and you could say he should have known better.
And don't forget that one of our pals says, no, he knew and he was gleefully taking money from morons to push things to the right.
He was extremely disciplined and he knew the score.
Now, is that a cope?
Is that I don't know.
I don't give that full credence, but it's possible.
To me, the thing to take from this is this is riling up more of this broad section of America that is so inert, but you see the, you know, the boomer level people, conservative type people really getting angry and getting involved because they feel personally threatened.
This is a guy they liked.
And, you know, in this same way, other things like remember when Rush Limbaugh died.
Okay, he just died of, you know, disease or whatever, old age.
Yeah.
But think of how, you know, this is the same thing.
Like how, what percentage of what Rush Limbaugh said would we agree with?
You know, probably small percentage.
But even so, he was one of those people that really moved the Overton windows, as I keep using that phrase.
And this is certainly a step in all of that.
And now with him being killed in such a way, and I will agree with Rolo, the glee of the left and the absolute unhinged little videos they make and their posts and everything.
All that is on display.
And that is all the events are doing more for our cause than we ever personally could do for the cause.
Massive right arm salute to the small army and platoons who are out there doxing and getting these people fired for celebrating on social media.
No, my principles, my principles of free speech say that they should be free to say whatever they want and still hold their coach.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of speech.
Not freedom of reach either.
Yes.
No, Freedom of conflict.
That's the thing about that.
That's what the left says over and over.
Whenever any crap, freedom of meet, make wait a month.
Okay, there you go.
Okay.
Exactly.
You set the standard.
Let's play the game.
100%.
I would take that devil's bargain if there was this mythical Candyland unicorn wonderland of equal treatment of dissenting viewpoints.
And we know that that is a crock of shit and there's the biggest world's double standard when it comes to white racial solidarity to white dissident opinions and then established evil, degenerate leftist orthodox talking points that have been piped into our children, including this kid who, you know, I'm a little bit sad for the journey.
It's a little personal for me.
I know somebody very well who was once a nice, kind, happy, go-lucky kid and descended into Black Lives Matter anti-fascist ideology.
Read between the lines there.
And, you know, that's what they do.
Now, let's, let's be fair here, gents, and put the shoe on the other foot.
I'm springing this one on Sam and Rollo.
Let's say an actual 22-year-old budding white nationalist radicalized on Telegram went out and shot some left-wing youth activist who was big in DEI and things like that, took her out, got arrested.
Do you think that we'd all be celebrating him as a saint and a martyr and a hero?
Or would we be, I'll ask, what about the question?
What about Luigi?
Well, Luigi was probably a big factor.
I would almost guarantee that this kid was super excited about Luigi's whack of the United Healthcare guy.
And, you know, I would probably do the roll up the that one's messier.
But go ahead, Sam.
You know, let's seriously, because we do not advocate violence.
I'm certainly not clutching my pearls about political violence.
It's not the way America was founded in political violence.
That's what the founding of this country was, political violence against tyranny.
So not going to do that, but go ahead.
Well, I would just say that in such a circumstance, the same thing as what I've already said on the show, which is to anybody and everybody and to you guys and myself, don't commit crimes.
It's not necessary.
It's not good.
It's not helpful.
We have too many other avenues that are good that we can move down and doing things that are not illegal to do something as foolish as that.
Now, if somebody absolutely snaps as a terminal cancer diagnosis.
Yeah, they snap and they turn on and kill somebody that we all hate.
Yeah, I'm not going to shed any tears for that person, but I would say to such a person, no, don't do it.
Sure.
Yeah.
And we're not being cutesy here either, or covering our asses.
We are actually not many times before.
But you know, don't.
Yeah, you know, and I did this after January 6th.
And, you know, what if it was Antifa storming the Capitol and a, you know, a white cop shot an Antifa through the heart who was breaking through those doors?
I'd be like, okay, roll the window up, look the other way.
And there's also a difference between a radical, well, we also have to remember that this is a friend versus enemy, good versus evil thing.
And it's not hyperbole.
That's not oversimplification.
And Sam Hyde did it again, you know, basically breaking it down.
I think there's been so much commentary, you know, just a total fire hose.
We don't have to like review everything or summarize it.
But we genuinely believe and know that they are evil, whether they're being deliberately evil or they think they're being good and noble and progressive.
And what they're doing is destroying the country, the family, the faith, the race for their neo Bolshevik communist fantasy.
For a brown brown, gay, degenerate, free money, free sex.
And just for like stuff they see on TV.
We have the same kind of dichotomy as the left, where like, if it weren't for X, we'd be in Star Trek right now with flying cars or whatever.
But like, they think like if these people would just have total anarchy where there's no means of maintaining host population, there's no means of maintaining prosperity and high trust, no means of maintaining a country where you produce things that creates jobs.
If we just allow everybody into the country that has no attachment to it, that doesn't care about it.
And we let all of the women just do porn.
We let all the men watch porn.
Let people take all the drugs they want.
Let people do everything that keeps them from being productive.
We would all be singing Kumbaya in the beta quadrant right now, pulling up on Vulcan.
Nigerian rockets.
Yeah, where if we just had none of those things, then we could at least move forward.
Because we had the train, then we had the motor car, then we had the airplane.
And now we're pretty much stalled.
Sure, that there's rocket ships, but they're not practical and they don't really do anything.
They go up and then they come down.
And that's about it.
There's, there's, we're not going to other planets, but maybe we can't do anything with space, but we'll never know because all of our money is being spent to keep all these third worlders alive.
We're spending all this money to keep people with AIDS alive instead of having providing for blacks, housing them, imprisoning them.
I didn't hear that.
Yeah.
If you were a real, like race, if you were a real race blind, conservative talking points, turn talking points, USA, turning point USA person, and you just saw your ostensible leader get slaughtered by a radical leftist, a new radical leftist, right?
The kid wasn't even old enough to be like a weathered, you know, haggard Antifa going out in a blaze of glory.
If you don't at least spewing those platitudes, yeah, go ahead.
And that should indicate that if there's one of those new ones, there's thousands more, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands.
Unironically, yep.
You're living in a cold civil war, a budding civil war.
I think it's too it's pretty hot when you go to more racially charged areas.
Here's a fun, here's a fun quick story that's mildly relevant.
The other day, I was packing up the truck to head out and do some stuff.
And I knew, I saw that two big new shiny trucks were rolling down the road to my house pretty quickly.
I said, that's rare.
And meter readers don't come in pairs.
Census people don't come in pairs, et cetera, delivery guys.
So I went, and this was after Charlie had been whacked.
So I prepared myself and just walked out front to see what the hell was going on.
I didn't actually think it was the feds or Antifa coming up to assassinate me, but regardless, I was prepared.
And the two trucks roll up fairly quickly.
And I'm just, you know, looking at them sort of ready.
And then guy gets out with a lanyard and a utility workers thing.
And I instantly know the score.
And I just put my hands up and said, I didn't do it.
I wasn't in Utah the other day.
And the guy goes, I sure hope they catch that son of a bitch right on cue.
And they were doing, you know, like utility tree worker power line stuff where they have to go around and get consent or whatever.
But we had a quick sort of bro to bro rightoid, whiteoid symbiosis where we looked, we looked each other in the eye.
We didn't get into it.
He wanted to get the hell out of there and get on with his day.
And then you shit in the creek.
Moment of solidarity.
Yeah.
You know, but you know, it was just like in that moment, I was like, huh, am I getting rolled up on to my, you know, is he a Breitbart boomer?
I don't know.
Is he a Facebook Fed posting boomer?
I don't know.
Is he a totally depoliticized boomer who was just angry to see that shot?
But he instantly knew what I was talking about and we made eye contact and we had a good handshake.
It was it was like a mini instant bro moment with a guy who is probably, you know, older, middle-aged and not related.
Anyway, that's for all those people who say that those things are worthless or those people suck or whatnot.
They are your natural allies, you idiots, you ghouls who would take coach.
Honestly, yeah.
Who are you trying to convince?
Don't you know that when people try to convince the unconvincible, they get shot?
Right.
You know, I'm not a leader.
I'm not an activist anymore.
If anything, perhaps I'm a somewhat listened to voice of reason for how to make friends and influence people in our context, not just for anyone listening to you knows that.
Okay.
Well, I can only tell you this, that the conservative type persons that I have talked to are absolutely enraged about this type of a thing and this thing more than somebody like any of the three of us.
Yeah, we're, we have like a context and a way that we do care about it.
We acknowledge the guy's not exactly, you know, a friend, but, you know, we're taking a nuanced view.
But to the average person who's not reading blogs or thinking about these things built on many years of like a nationalist framework of thinking, those people are incensed by this.
There's no question.
Yes.
And the question is whether it matters more than a bucket of warm spit.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Does it become anything serious?
Yeah.
I would say at the maybe it cools off and everyone goes back to, you know, everything cools off eventually.
Yeah.
Football season is starting and they're excited about the big game or whatever.
Yeah, but this is it ratchets the whole thing up at least a notch.
And it will become maybe something that figures into a future angry outburst or maybe this is this will generate some other results on its own.
I can't.
Yeah.
My initial reaction, because I never do the, oh, I don't do thoughts and prayers.
I don't like, you know, publicly bleat about my feelings and sentimentality usually.
But my initial thought was this is somebody called it Trump's Reichstag fire, which I think was deliberately over the top.
But there's a kernel of truth there in which a leftist committed an atrocity.
No, the Reichstag fire was not a false flag.
I don't think this was either.
And Trump, you know, is he going to go full Caudillo and embrace authoritarianism and threaten the Supreme Court to issue his way or get disbanded?
No, probably not.
Why wouldn't that put it carte blanche to?
I wouldn't put it past Vance to actually do that.
I think Vance is younger and smarter, where Trump is an out of touch boomer that really thinks the only thing that matters is Israel, where I think Vance sees the Strategy to actually trying to one gain hard power over the left and two, appeasing the base right now.
Well, we'll see.
But I mean, my expectations are tempered, but he's not going to do nothing about it.
I suspect.
Those city, I guess, the urban patrols of the National Guard are rolling out to Memphis now.
Yeah.
Sam, I saw that an ICE detainee got shot resisting just today, I think.
Quick scan of the Wall Street Journal.
No, I posted that.
Yeah.
No, I think it was an illegal.
He tried to ram him with his car.
And then while he was being drug, he shot him.
Yeah.
You're allowed to smile and say you get what you deserve when you're in the process of trying to harm other people and you're in the country illegally and you're probably a multi-time convicted felon as opposed to mild-mannered mild-mannered hustled Charlie Kirk.
Or yes, we will pivot on to the Ukrainian refugee who got a rude awakening to the rules in America and probably had never heard in her life around blacks.
Never really.
I would like to just add one quick because I think you and I are probably like polar opposites on the conspiracy issue.
Man.
And well, you're like, you could show me enough weird things.
And I go, whoa, I think something weird's going on.
But I think that's the whole thing jumping off the roof just this morning.
I was like, so where the hell is the gun?
Did he break it down?
He broke down the Mauser after shooting.
And then like he threw, he jumped down.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
I had questions.
I wasn't like.
Right.
There was a lot of weird stuff.
And I think a good rule of thumb is that if the U.S. federal government is involved, something uncouth is at play.
But I think if you look at the thing with the jet and then they were trying to like suppress the Epstein files on the on the Senate floor, I think this was all just a very strange coincidence.
I think as far as that weird private jet leaving, I think a Jew was in this country doing something illegal.
I think that goes without saying.
And then the radar was off because they didn't want to get caught.
I think the Epstein list has been there for a while.
And then that just happened to happen today.
I think what happened here was just a crazy kid that spent all his time on Reddit and Discord.
And he met some Antifa that said, this is the kind of gun you got to get.
And this is, you got to learn how to shoot it, hold it steady.
Totally plausible.
We know this.
I'm just saying ridiculous.
Well, there's a lot of people out there that think like, oh, well, did you see the hand signals?
Like, yeah, people fidget with their hands all the time.
There's like a lot of weird stuff.
I think there was a lot of weird stuff, but this is like to me, clear case of just people forget how insane Antifa is.
And Antifa have been kind of put in the kennel, so to speak, for the last few years.
So you have to the mattresses.
There was a lot of chatter about that.
You know, I mean, they were legitimately freaked out about Trump.
And it's not inconceivable that this is the kind of stuff that they've been fantasizing about and working toward.
100%.
Sure, but I'm just saying that like there are probably a lot of them that aren't as organized.
So you have a lot of guys out there that are saying like, yeah, well, we should do something.
Why should we sit around and wait for Skylar to come in and tell us what to do?
Like, yeah, yeah, Charlie Kirk's coming to this college.
Yeah, I bet.
I bet we could make him pay.
Oh, if only we could.
Hey, I got an idea.
It's completely feasible that you have three stupid young kids talking on Discord and they're hopped up on fear porn and they think Trump's going to throw them in a camp because they're stupid.
And well, now they may.
It may happen.
Well, and our pal who's knowledgeable said all it really takes is a direct order from the president to cash our googly-eyed Hindu Valhalla blessing.
Did you see this quote from Kash Patel?
He's seen Valhalla.
What a weird thing to say.
I was watching the press conference live and it was the first time in a while that I live tweeted stuff.
I was just falling off my chair back and forth between the Utah camera.
But hey, you know, the only creep, you know, if the schizos are right and this is a false flag and he was set up to be the fall guy for anti-fascism, I'd say, okay, cool.
You know, false flags are finally going our way, right?
Who cares?
Okay.
Either way, win-win.
Good false flag.
Thank you.
Yeah.
It would be like blaming the communists for the Reichsagmire.
All right, good.
Rock and roll.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if the truth comes out, good.
And then people will say that then Israel's behind it.
Like there's no, there's win-win.
Who cares?
Right.
If there was this grand, yeah, what a C-shift, right?
If there was a grand anti-white, anti-white nationalist conspiracy, they would have made this guy into, you know, a 4chan, poll, telegram.
He was a Jew lover.
He was a Jew lover.
There we go.
Definition.
Well, I'm just saying there's, there's your motive.
Are you saying Charlie was or the shooter was?
Or I don't know.
No, I'm saying that's what the shooter's motive would be if they like they have a right-wing shooter that like a white supremacist neo-Nazi writer to be the Patsy.
I mean, no, that's what they would do.
No, they wouldn't make him out to be a ranting and raving anti-Semite who killed Charlie Kirk for being a stooge of the for being a Jew lover.
Yes.
Okay.
For him, for him being a Jew lover.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
All right.
That's all it would take to have a right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very good.
And final thought, you know, and you're welcome.
Sorry, I just sometimes I don't follow Werlow 100%.
You need like a diagram.
I'm listening.
Yes.
Use your context clues, you know, for grandpa here.
But I'm so sick of the schizo stuff.
As soon as anything comes out, and God knows everything's on video.
What was the black thing on his shirt that jumped up into his neck?
What was with the ring and the AI and why did it switch fingers and all that stuff?
It's just, and the false identification, again, you know, it's probably this guy.
We had this when Trump was shot and supposed to be.
He's the anti-foot guy or whatever.
Yeah.
And I don't blame, I don't blame people for like instantly jumping into work and like, you know, speculating, postulating this or that, but to get so worked up into everything being fake and gay.
Correct.
I thought we were talking about arena now.
No, we're not on the conspiracy thing because generally I'm more open to conspiracies, but this time it would be weird for them to set up a conspiracy where they have one of their own do it, where everything about it just makes them look bad.
It would just be so easy when you could have the bullets just, he found Jewel lover.
He found death to Israel, like all of that stuff.
Because how many Jews came out and said, Charlie was a great ally of Israel?
There was so.
So yeah, like right now, there's no need for any conspiracy.
Yeah.
And the Jews, of course, will try to spin this to, you know, Charlie.
They have been and they are.
He was a great friend of Israel.
So the true legacy of Charlie Kirk would be to maintain that they're God's chosen people, etc.
Despite the evidence that Charlie was breaking his chains.
Great Dawkins song.
All right.
Well, did we did Grayley's kill JFK?
Yes.
But JFK had power.
I buy it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Irena.
I don't know.
Irena.
Yeah, Sam, 100% true.
Just the black visage.
It's the story is, first off, Trump in the Oval Office giving a dedicated address dedicated to her and crime and holding up the picture of her beautiful white face next to the devil.
It looked like a live Amran podcast being from the Oval Office.
Could you imagine Romney or George?
No, they would say now is not the time for whatever.
And Trump, you know, is Trump a white national.
We need to come together.
Yeah.
Healing.
But yeah.
And how nice is it that, you know, after a prominent shooting, we're not worried about new gun control right now.
But Irina fled Ukraine, came to the United States, going about her life.
I don't buy necessarily that was her with the Black Lives Matter thing.
Apparently that was confirmed.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
It doesn't surprise me.
It doesn't matter, though.
Maybe some, you know, and I talked to the, I talked to the kids about this one in particular.
I didn't, they saw the still.
I didn't show them the video, of course.
I even asked my wife if she wanted to see Charlie get shot and she said, absolutely not.
I wasn't going to watch Arena because I'm still somewhat damaged or have some like mental scar tissue.
I was a dumb 21-year-old when I watched Berg, Alex Berg, get decapitated by Iraqis during the early days.
No, it was before ISIS.
It was after we invaded Iraq and he was a contractor and they captured him and they beheaded him right on camera and I watched it like a moron and I felt sick for days.
But anyway, I watched it mercifully.
If you haven't watched the full video, I suspect the majority have.
It mercifully wasn't Gory.
It's almost incredulous or incredible that he just jabbed her in the jugular or the cartoid multiple times.
She just looks up like it hasn't hit her yet.
What happened?
Charlie was out in a second.
She had a couple seconds.
He like grabs her and just like shook her because the resolution was so low.
Yeah, you can't even see the knife, right?
It's probably like a little crappy pocket knife that he stole from a liquor store.
Yeah.
Well, I was watching a video by a Black Lives Matter lady and she was saying blacks have a right to be violent.
They do.
It's in their DNA.
They're all capable of that.
But it had everything.
I think what made it so poignant and so universally moving was the fact that they released that footage even before, I don't know if we got leaked, that live, you know, the full footage of her looking up, realizing she's bleeding out, slumping over, and then you just see that rich red blood trail into the entryway of the train.
But the fact that he had been arrested so many times, the fact that it was these black judges who kept slapping him on the wrist, the fact that she literally, I won't say didn't do nothing.
She literally did, she just walked on the train, sat down.
And that's a lesson.
You know, don't put yourself in that situation.
Well, you never know.
This is another thing.
This may seem unfeeling or maybe somebody would even be angry, but I've gone through this before too.
You see something like that.
And this is not the first time by any means that I've seen things like that.
And, you know, you get angry, you get sad, all those types of things.
as I matured in my outlook, you know, sadly, the vast majority of white people are really like practically, you know, take enemy positions.
Like you said, it's confirmed she had a Black Lives Matter association somehow.
You know, when white nationalists don't have evidence, by the way, of the infection of America on Ukraine and its youth, whether that happened over there or over here.
Ukrainians have been thoroughly liberalized in their thinking.
It was a racist place when I went over there at the turn of the century.
Not so much anymore after Zog has essentially got his tentacles in there through media and everything else.
White nationalists would not put themselves in this position.
It's because she's been brainwashed in one way or another that she thought she can sit there amongst a bunch of blacks and be that unaware of what's going around her, things like that.
So, you know, let that temper your reaction when you see whites getting attacked.
Unfortunately, things have to get bad like this before enough people can wake up to really make a difference.
And things have to get bad for a while, long while, even to build up that rage and build up the potential energy, if you will, to make a difference.
So that's, I temper, I balance my sadness for her and anger about her with that a lot of these people would be, you know, siding with Anifa anyways.
Yeah.
And lost in the shuffle, of course, was the white mother who was stabbed to death on a running or a walk.
There were two.
There was another one.
There were two old people that were tied to a pole and burned alive.
Yeah.
Same day as the woman, the veteran.
Yeah.
They were like 70-something, like late 70s.
Yeah.
A guy robbed him, tied him to a pole, burned him alive.
Black guy, of course.
Yep.
And part of part of my, you know, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer on the show, but I was just thinking back to Kate Steinel and Build Kate's Wall, that rally in DC, the argument that this illegal alien found a rifle under a bench and happened to pick it up and happened to shoot it straight into her chest.
Like, did they really go with that narrative?
And he got like manslaughter or something like that.
I have to look it up.
Cannon Hint, the football player stabbed in the heart.
I mean, we've got literally thousands.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Well, there was this school shooting in Minnesota recently was a tranny.
You remember that one?
That was really hard to keep up with.
The one that looked like a Rocky Dennis from Mask.
I don't get that reference, but good understanding.
That's what that freak looked like.
Yeah.
I mean, when a tranny shoots up a school now, it's like, okay, just it happened again.
Right.
And I know that those kids were praying at the moment in the church.
Yeah.
I mean, there's so many examples of this stuff that it almost gets lost in the noise.
It has to be like on another level for it to have nationwide reverberations.
Like we need an archivist that's just keeping track of, you know, every day.
We had it.
Yeah.
And it was too much to keep track of.
God bless him for his souls anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was, that was golden.
Every, every day.
I don't know if it's still up, but I'm sure it's still up.
It's still up.
No, no, no.
He doesn't update it like he.
No, I know.
And then real quick on that propaganda and stuff, I exchanged messages with a Ukrainian contact that I've known for a lot of years.
And I said, and, you know, I wasn't, I'm sure that he was rapidly anti-Russian and, you know, Ukrainian nationalist, but I just said, I don't know.
This was before it went big, before they released the footage.
I just said this Ukrainian girl fled the war, fled Russia's bombs, only to get killed by an American Negro.
And his reaction was that, well, yeah, of course, Trump would make an example of her there and doesn't care about the Ukrainians dying under Putin's bombs.
So it was not about her getting killed by an American black.
It was more about, you know, my Ukraine and whether Trump is going to show adequate support for the country completely 100% in the wars in the war zone thinking, which is understandable to a certain extent.
But at the same time, I was like, man, I get it, but I wasn't, you know, I was talking about this thing and you made it about that thing.
And, you know, perhaps it's excusable when you're in a war zone.
But yeah, war.
And what it, what's really relevant is it made me realize that, you know, when you're in a war, I think the capacity for stepping back from it or having rational thinking, of course, it's easy for me to say because I'm not in a war right now.
I'm in a nice cozy hamlet.
But it's all about that.
It's just that and nothing else matters.
For better and for worse too, the inability.
Like, why do we have a Jewish prime minister and we're anti-fascist, but the fascists are there dying?
You know, the whole thing is so scrambled.
I don't get it.
And that's another can of worms what's going on there and the endless threats for sanctions and rolling out the red carpet.
That entire thing was weird.
Russia is breaking the Polish airspace, Bulgarian airspace, and Germany says that's it.
We're sending there will be a strong answer, they say.
And Poland implements this Article 4 or whatever it's called, call for NATO to call five, I think.
Yeah, maybe it's whatever it is.
Supposedly 10,000 European soldiers are going to Ukraine.
Yep.
If it's not here, buckle up there.
I don't have the gas to pivot onto Russia and Ukraine right now and really let it rip.
Anyway, if you have not had the talk ever with your kids, or if it's been a long time, I can't think, I mean, you're basically guilty if you haven't.
You determine the ages and when they're ready for it and when they're mature enough to understand it and not be sloppy, careless, dangerous with the information.
But wherever you live, it could happen to you in West Virginia.
It could happen to you, obviously, in an inner city, which sort of has its own way of educating them.
But yeah, two, three years ago, I would have been way more grandiose about this.
Now it's like, okay, things are kind of coming to a head.
They're getting worse and more noticed and more people are noticing and the ratcheting effect is happening.
It will still take probably longer.
Or, you know, is Boomerwaffen going to be activated and go storming the ghettos?
You know, if we do the thing where we reverse the races and a white man stabbed a black Ugandan refugee to death on a train in Memphis, would the country be aflame right now?
Yes, absolutely.
Would we be better served if white people were chimping out and burning down ghettos right now and storming public housing projects?
Probably.
I don't know.
It is it's sort of Yeah, probably.
Yeah, it would be just, right?
If they can do it.
It wouldn't just be just.
I mean, something would be done in time.
Dangerous ground.
Also a song by Method Men and Red Men.
That's a terrible comparison to make, given the subject matter.
All right, gents, we're at an hour.
Let's take a break.
There's was way too, I was furiously. changing through songs today of my massive library trying to find something.
Sam's got one that we might, maybe we'll use it at the break.
Maybe we'll use it at the end.
Rolo, you have sent me about 10 YouTube links to music that I have listened to some of them.
Others have gotten lost in the shuffle and the daily grind.
I couldn't find it.
Well, those are more I just thought you would like them.
What about that Megadun song?
That would be a good break.
I haven't listened to that one yet either, Sammy Baby.
So let's put a bookmark on the music.
You will find out right after this when you hear this.
But I don't know what it's going to be yet.
After a show, I'll have an hour or two to listen to all of Rolo and Sam's jams and make an executive decision, but it will be communal.
And stay safe out there.
Educate your kids.
You are not in Kansas anymore for sure.
Never relax.
Never relax.
With Jews, you lose.
If there's two mantras, those are the two.
I mean, it's simplistic.
I was actually before all this happened, I was, you know, in one of my pensive, like, what are we, you know, it was like, well, that's what it all boils down to, right?
You have to guard yourself against the most immediate danger of the violent, savage-inclined other.
And then you have to realize why and how it's been enabled and weaponized against us.
That's the story of at least the past hundred years in America and increasingly true in Europe too.
And it's not always Africans, of course, lest we discriminate against some of our Arab and South Asian and other assorted invasive.
No, Palestinians would never do anything wrong to anyone, ever, Rolo.
Never.
They're the good Muslims.
That's what I thought.
We were talking before the show.
We have sympathy for them.
I actually, I've mentioned before, my experience with a delegation of Palestinians a long time ago.
A lot of my information is out of date.
At the time, they were pretty good people.
They were ferociously anti-Semitic.
They were educated.
That was a high-level Palestinian delegation in 2004.
First time I ever had to do a big thing with an international delegation.
They were like, you take this one, Matt.
It was during the W years after 9-11.
There wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for welcoming them to tour America.
Similar experience.
I've known professionally a couple of Palestinians, very likable people, and you can't help but sympathize on a certain level with them.
But like I was reading this article about in Ireland where the whites are rising up and burning things down and attacking people.
And they also attacked a pro-Palestine march.
And I just couldn't help but think like our white countries should have massive white nationalist movements.
And when we get around to throwing people out, these pro-Palestinian people go with them.
Yeah.
The pearl clutching over Sewell, calling out the Palestinian flags, the pearl clutching over Patriot Front, covering up a Palestinian flag.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
We can view them as legitimate victims.
You're gay.
That's it.
Literally, it's like our country.
The humanitarian means would say, yes, I see the families, especially women and children, the suffering.
Their cause is just.
Yes, I acknowledge all that, but in 10 years time, let's say Israel could completely wipe that out.
They're wiping it out now.
So like when Palestine literally is just a memory and does not exist.
So then what do we stand for?
Well, let's go a step further, though.
Like, okay, they're wiping out the Palestinians.
Are they not wiping out the French?
Should we not put up the French stickers?
Should we not have like pro-France marches?
Like they're doing the same thing with the English.
Like, like what, go through all these other countries Sweden uh Italy anywhere, everywhere.
Yeah, like what?
Why is why?
Why these people?
Yeah, think about it.
What coach said was exactly right, we could think and think and walk and chew gum all at the same time.
It's become a fetishization absolutely yes, it is yes, and we know they're overwhelmingly leftists and they're not sympathetic to white nationalist causes.
And at least the Slavo Ukraini, like beheading video, gay porn spanners like, at least the Ukrainians are white.
You know like, if you had to take up a cause um, you know, we're not.
We, we know that there's like a bigger thing going on there than just Ukraine good Russia bad uh, in general Palestine good Israel bad Israel, always bad uh, but to see, you know, Israel bad Palestine Palestine, much better, out of proportion.
And there's and there's and there's other white things that we can take up the cause for.
If that was the only thing it's, think of it like the the, the homeless issue, like we can't take care of the homeless when we can barely feed our kids, so it's like we can't keep building apartments and showers for these people where, like other European countries, are dying.
They're becoming less white, like is is.
Are they not worth, you know, taking the cause of?
Well, they don't.
Well, they don't carry the Palestine fight, so they're probably Zionist.
I've i've, i've seen evidence that they've been defending Zionism before wrong.
And if and if a white, if a Middle American white person is not adequately radicalized to my standards and is kind of milquetoast or maybe watches FOX NEWS, he's not my enemy, he's not worthless, he's not useless in my mind.
Uh, if he's a, if he's a Israel guy, then I.
He deserves scorn and disgust and maybe a spit on his shoe.
But let's be fair, it's mostly white leftists, are?
It's mostly old people that are Pro-Israel.
The the numbers are out that young people are turning.
It's a relic of a more mind and, and guess, a lot of those young people that are Anti-Israel, they're probably Anti-Palestine too, and so, and then there's retards out there that will make them the enemy just because they're Anti-Palestine.
Because people are stupid, faggot losers.
They'll only ever be losers.
They're sore losers.
Yeah, you know who I'm talking about, and Charlie was even delving into October 7th denialism with Patrick Beth David, of all people.
Why would he do that?
What, why in God's name would the discipline operate?
Of course, he has.
Yeah, and he's disowned us.
Here's this tweet from 2018 that proves why Charlie deserved to get assassinated.
Here's this picture of Putin touching the wailing wall, which proves why he's this.
Here's this picture of the ring.
I'm a friend from coach in 2012.
Immigration's bad because it hurts black boys.
That archive exists somewhere.
Yeah, I would love to see those personally see the evolution.
My Facebook still exists, frozen actually, but I can't get back into it.
So I would love to see where it comes with.
I was pro-Romney right around the time when I was like, you know, I'm going to shut this thing down because I hated Zuckerberg.
Anyway, we were about to go to tape and then Rollo triggered me with further commentary.
So we're going to take a break, listen to some good music.
That's right.
No more teasers, no more prompts, please.
And we'll come back and have a hopefully lighter and healthier second hour.
Don't go anywhere.
Beach towel dress on the drying line Do I remind you of your daddy in an 84 Labrador hanging out the passenger door
The sand from your hair is blowing in my eyes Blame it on the beach grown men don't cry Do you remember that beat down Basement couch I'd sing you my love songs and you'd tell me about how your mama ran off in pondering
I remember I remember everything Cold shoulder closing time.
You begging me to stay till the sun roll.
Strange words come on out of a grown man's mouth once mine's broke Pictures in passing time.
You only smile like that when you're drinking.
I wish I didn't, but I do remember every moment on the nights with you, like concrete feet in the summer heat.
The birds like hell once who souls me No you'll never be the man that you always were But I'll remember you.
I wish I didn't, but I do.
Remember every moment on the nights with you.
Cold shoulder, closing time, you begin me to stay till the sun rose.
Strange words come all out of the bone man's mouth when his fallen spoke.
Pictures in passing time, you only smile like that when you're drinking.
I wish I didn't, but I do.
He's my mind.
Beach down this on the drying line.
Do I remind you of your daddy in my 884?
Labrador hanging out the passenger door.
In retrospect, putting them at the front of the bus was probably a better idea.
I had to give a hat tip to a, it's very rare when a tweet makes me laugh out loud pretty good.
HVAC Barkley had that one.
May have seen it boosted on Telegram.
Little macabre, but sometimes you have to laugh in the face of sadness, tragedy, atrocity.
That whole tragedy nomenclature when something like this happens.
I remember there was a classic John Darbysher article.
No, it's not a tragedy.
It's an atrocity.
A tragedy is like a sad thing that happens.
An atrocity is a bad thing that was made possible and happened due to a bad person.
So anyway, welcome back to Full House, episode 215.
And we have some new white life.
The dog's going crazy.
Every time we kick off, the dog goes crazy.
It's almost like she hears me kick back into podcaster voice mode as if something has changed.
Of course, you got to turn it on a little bit for the show.
But Sam, let's kick us off because you said you got a special one.
I'm always tired of going first.
That's what friend of the show, friend of the show, friend of mine.
I'm not going to give any identifying things.
I think you would know who he was if I mentioned maybe we'll talk more specifically.
Oh, Mike Jones.
Yeah, very, very happy for him.
I'll just call him John, which is a generic enough name.
But he welcomed his number eight, number eight child, baby boy, 10 pounds, nine ounces.
Says he's a tank, 16-inch noggin.
He's probably a tough birth, but he was very excited to let me know.
And he even said, oh, you guys got to have at least one more show so you can get this new white life out there.
But I told him there'll be many shows to come.
So don't write checks.
Your ass can't cash.
So congratulations to him.
I've met this man in person with his family before.
And great event.
And congratulations to him and his wife.
Incredible.
Sam, thank you.
And more importantly, what a service.
What a man.
What a woman to pull that off.
I wish I had one more.
I don't know if I could handle eight.
Moving on, we heard from an old friend from the early days of the show.
Full house has had like maybe three or four sort of lives and zones and modes as we gone through, you know, getting started where it was small and it was basically just our networks and maybe some people who found us on Telegram.
Then it really got bigger during COVID and we soaked up a lot of people with diverse ideological opinions.
I think this guy was one who was in there in sort of the middle zone.
Big John, who had strong opinions and was frankly quite generous in the early days.
I had offered to send him a t-shirt, gratis, of course, and thanks.
And he took like two months to write back, doesn't check as a non-email.
Anyway, he finally responded and said, Hey, buddy, life is good.
It's been a while.
Pretty sure I had another white child since we last talked.
Can't keep track of him.
And he says, I'm up to six now.
And I think my wife and I can maybe go for one more.
It can be physically and mentally wearing on her for sure.
And he said, I hope your family's well too.
And he even said, no, thanks for a shirt.
I'm good on swag and everything else and said, thanks for reaching out.
So from an old listener and supporter, Big John, congratulations to you and your wife.
Take it easy on her.
I mean, you got six.
That's pretty good.
You know, I know we're like the pro natalism thing, but don't keep it.
You know what?
It's, it's, it's a mindset because once you settle into the thing of like, oh, I got past the difficulty.
Oh, that baby's growing up.
Thank goodness that child is getting out of diapers now.
And if you have that type of mentality, then when the next one comes along, I've experienced this too.
Now you say, oh, I'm starting all over again.
And you think of all the hardships that having a very young child entails and so on and so forth.
Yeah, but there's the joys too.
So you need those children.
They keep you young.
I know that sounds like a cliche, but it really is true.
When you keep yourself in the fight, you've not slowed down or you're not retired.
You're not pulling back.
That's what keeps you young.
The children keep you young.
And I think they've kept me young.
Yep.
I was over at a local friend's house a month ago or something.
I said, holy cow, look at the size.
He put a gigantic above-ground pool on his property.
And he's got older kids.
And I said, you, you mad dog.
Like, you know, the kids, he was, he was like, no, I wanted to do it before they were out of the house, you know, to get some of that magic back.
And one is already on his way out now as a freshman.
And he said, no, I had to do it.
I was getting sad.
Like the time was going by too quick.
He said he had the pool.
He had the pool in his garage, you know, for over a year and finally cleared his schedule.
And he was like, no, we're doing it.
So hopefully they use it, right?
That's always the concern.
You go through all that trouble and the maintenance and the whatever, and then they don't use it anyway.
That was a little bit of a segue.
Our pal, Joe B, let us know.
This is not new white life parental edition, but new white life grandparent edition.
Joe B welcomed his first granddaughter, mom, dad, and baby are doing well.
Yeah, those stages, you know, you get married.
That's a total life milestone.
Then you have your first and then one of the capstones.
That means Joe B's basically got one foot in the grave at this point.
Truth be told when you have your first grandchild.
But congratulations, buddy.
And he sent in a really long, nice note that I was going to read on the show, but I think he's going to come.
I said, come on, old man.
Come on the show.
It'd be interesting.
He's had a long, interesting life.
I've met him.
Very nice.
I have not yet, but he's been an online pal for a long time.
Yep.
So we will have Joe B on.
And yes, we're going to have Regulator and Wolf Shield on.
Yeah.
Don't mind.
Don't mind this.
There was somebody in the comment zone who said every time Coach looks at the comment zone, Full House goes on hiatus for another week.
And there's an element of truth to that when Sperg show up and it's happening right now.
He was clearly a Patsy.
And oh, Tom Sewell and the NSN guys are total feds.
I was just like, good God.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just like, come on.
Like, who's, you know, I was like, what is this Abbott?
It was like two of them and they're like, they were like going back and forth.
It was clearly like, it wasn't organic.
I was just like, oh, yeah, they're persecuting him and, you know, harassing his comrades and putting them solitary because they're feds.
Is that what we're going with now?
That is a really long and complicated.
Now you're getting it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks, Rolo.
By the way, that was a really good backhanded compliment that you did in the first half.
I wanted to call it out, but I was like, you know, I'm not an activist or a leader anymore.
More just like a jaded elder statesman.
You're like, yeah, anybody who's listened to that knows that now.
So that did not go unnoticed.
You snarky.
Snarky son of a bitch.
That's not what I was saying.
No.
Yeah.
No.
No, that's not what I said.
You don't listen.
Are you being serious or are you trolling?
I am being serious.
I am being serious.
Okay.
I thought that was a clever backhanded compliment.
I wasn't offended.
It was funny.
I'm laughing.
Well, I'm glad you found the worst in me.
Well, we'll go back and listen to the tape because sometimes when I'm like, what are you talking about?
What?
We don't record on tape.
We record digitally.
Come on, Kevin.
Okay.
This has been Full House episode 215.
No, I won't do that.
Okay.
Let me see here.
What up, fam?
Yeah, from Nathaniel.
Okay, yes, I can.
It looks like he put that in quote.
Nathaniel says, what's up, fam?
And this is not Nathaniel Scott, so far as I know.
I'm a 25-year-old nationalist and longtime listener who became the proud father of a bouncing baby boy at, man, he's really given the full details.
So I'll just say he arrived recently.
Play it carefully there, Nathaniel.
Past week has been extremely wholesome, if slightly challenging.
Mama and I are getting along well and already talking about baby number two as soon as she heals up.
Yes.
Isn't that the thing?
Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah, piece of cake.
And let's check back in in a month or two there, Nathaniel, see if you're quite as ready to go.
Plenty of Irish twins out there.
So it does happen.
But he says, being a nationalist is tough, especially the longer and deeper you dive into the bottomless spiral of sacrifice, which is demanded of all of us for the sake of our people.
I've been arrested, slandered, abandoned by my peers, and faced countless odds in impossible situations with my brothers in the field on many occasions for my beliefs.
But when my wife came along, I knew that God had rewarded me for my loyalty and steadfastness to the cause.
I am smiling through the microphone 100% sincerely.
It's been a while since I read some like genuine, pure, sincere WN feedback.
Now that our son is here, I have only been steered in that conclusion, steeled in that conclusion, and can only express how happy I am to have him and reaffirm my belief in our movement.
Your show has helped both of us in more ways than I can tell.
From the entertainment we got from listening to the peace of mind we got from all the little tips and tricks many episodes have provided over the years.
We definitely felt ready and able to have this kid now and to stop wasting time.
And we couldn't be happier for that decision.
Thank you guys and the whole bio fam out there listening for keeping this show running.
And please coach for what it's worth.
We love you.
Nathan, Nathaniel.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
Oh, all right.
First, it was my wife.
My wife was sitting here listening, semi-listening to our first half and said, hey, you did a nice job.
I thought she was trolling me.
And I thought Rolo was busting my chops in here, Nathan.
All right.
What is this?
Is this my birthday?
Yeah.
Anyway.
Thank you.
That was wonderful.
And more importantly than me feeling good by your words, super happy for you and your wife.
Thank you for your service, sir.
Yes, I can be a jaded old donkey with creeping negativity and cynicism, but don't let me spoil the party.
When you're 44, Nathan, maybe you will feel that too.
Maybe not.
Maybe you'll be, you know, an older group.
You'll be like me.
Yeah, there you go.
Indefatigably optimistic and just indefatigable in general.
So that is awesome.
Thank you very much for taking the time to do that.
And I had, there might be one more, but I don't have it handy right now.
And I don't want to do a stumbling fumbling for it, not that it's being disregarded.
Let us go straight to Sam with whatever he's comfortable with sharing with some kind of a major medical thing for a middle-aged man.
No, no insult intended.
Yeah.
No, I recently had a prostatectomy.
So that means they removed the prostate.
It sounds radical.
I understand.
It sounded radical to me, but in the very early stages, they actually recommend just cutting it out because you can live without it.
Eventually, your muscles go back to support all of that function.
And because the prostate is a gland, it actually starts to grow back, which is kind of sounds weird.
But, you know, I stronger and more viscous, as I joked with Sam before.
And, you know, they had done a biopsy where they take, you know, quite a few samples and then they say, oh, out of those samples, you know, a handful of them were showed abnormal cells.
And then they look at your family history, which unfortunately I have a close relative who also had it.
And they say, you know, this is this is the best practice.
And I went and read on the internet and that seemed to back it up as well.
And we all know somebody who's an expert in this field as well.
So I asked him, you know, here's the information my doctors provided to me.
You did check with our source.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I said, does this all sound right?
And he literally said the same words back to me that the doctor had said.
So that at least gave me the idea that I was on the right track because, you know, one effect of modern medicine is because they can detect things so much better that, you know, suddenly more people have the thing, whatever that is, because they can detect it more and earlier.
And, you know, you just want to be, at least from my standpoint, I don't want to be, it sounds bad to say it, overreacting to things.
I mean, you have to.
Yeah.
Are they nipping?
Are they nipping it in the bud or are they detecting something that in previous centuries you would live blissfully ignorant of for another decade or two?
Yeah, at least, yeah.
And that's the thing because, you know, there's this exam that I have declined through the years.
I don't know, Coach, if you like it any better than I do.
The so-called pre-SAT.
Yeah, I didn't take it.
The digital exam.
I have never had one, nor have I been offered, but I'm pretty sure next year, at least at my annual checkup, they might ask for a stool sample or something or the piss test.
Yeah.
Sorry, you're not talking about colon cancer check.
You're talking about the manual feeling of the prostate, the massage.
That's right.
That's right.
And the thing is, in my case, because it was so early on and small, it would have been undetectable.
So I could have been submitting to that for years and it would never have detected this, which this was detected by numbers, you might say, of measuring certain proteins in the blood.
So, you know, I mean, I guess I'm trying to put a good face on it, which is exactly what the doctors said was this is early case.
This is, you're doing the right thing.
This is good.
You know, don't worry about this.
We're going to take care of this.
You know, that's what they've said all along.
So I'm trying to be a positive person in that respect.
And you may, maybe you've seen TV commercials or heard or read about very space age treatments, so to speak, of, you know, lutetium and other radioactive things and all kinds of treatments that are supposed to be the latest and greatest.
And those are out there, but those are like for advanced cases.
So maybe it seems counterintuitive to somebody, but the cutting it out is the really the gold standard of the thing to do in a case such as mine.
Having said all that, it is difficult to go through, you know, to the procedure itself is relatively simple.
It takes maybe an hour for them to do it or an hour and a half at the most.
They use what's called a Da Vinci robot, which is a so-called non-invasive.
They do have to make several small incisions in your belly.
They don't go through the backside.
They go through the front.
And they go in there and it's kind of like a video game type thing.
The doctor manipulates visually on a screen what he's doing and they take it out and there you are.
So the bad thing is you're on a catheter for a week, which I know people who suffer with truly terrible things, it's terrible for me to complain about it, but that is something I hated because I felt truly disabled, unable to go outside and play sports.
I'm somebody who was working out every day, very vigorous life, I believe.
And to be completely tied down because you're on a catheter, walking around, of course, with it strapped to your legs.
But having to empty it every so many hours and things like that was very kind of depressing.
But we got through all that, got through all that.
Did you think I'm an old man now?
It's starting.
Yeah, a little bit of a test.
Yeah, you can't help, or at least I can't help feeling sorry for yourself, feeling like, you know, I went from being somebody who I would put my physical state up against just about anybody to feeling like, as I said, feeling like a disabled person, basically.
And so since getting the catheter out, which is only a few days, but each day is better.
You begin to gain control, regain control of things.
We'll just leave it like that.
But, you know, it's, you got to take care of yourself.
There are certain lessons I drew from it, like, like take care of things and take care of yourself.
Keep things clean.
You know, I make my bed very carefully every day, more so than I ever did.
Keep the bathroom really clean and smelling nice.
You know, wash yourself, comb your hair, dress, even though you have to dress in baggy pants, but, you know, put a nice shirt on.
You know, uphold your dignity, I guess.
It was a lesson that I took from it.
You have to uphold your dignity and not just give in to like, well, nothing matters.
Who cares?
I don't care what I look or smell like or what kind of mess I leave behind.
No, resist that, stand against it and hold your head up high, you know.
And so the doctor said, I'm, you know, two weeks off of work.
And Rhys says, really, I would rather you stay home for a month.
But I said, absolutely not.
There is no way I'm sitting around for a month.
There's no way I'm sitting around for two weeks either.
So after the week, I went back to work and, you know, just taking it easy because I can work at a pace that I feel comfortable with, which I actually feel pretty good.
But I don't have to, you know, lift 50 pound bales of something or whatever.
You know, I mean, my job is as physical as I wish it to be.
I am fairly vigorous in the plant as I am at home, but I don't have to do that.
There are other people who can do a lot of those things too.
You're an overseer now.
Yeah, you've graduated.
You're management.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so that's kind of where I am there is, you know, you come away with the thing, like I say, why me?
Why did this have to happen?
Look at me.
Woe is me.
But also when you see somebody who's struggling or even suffering, I don't want to, you know, put it like I'm suffering really hard.
But if you see somebody suffering nobly, that's a good example to other people.
You know what I mean?
It could be anything.
Sure.
I like to think that people see, you know, having all these kids, how the bills really kept me down.
But I continue to chip away at my work and do the best I could with the money I was paid.
And, you know, when people see you suffer nobly, that counts for a lot.
And so any opportunity like that, you can make something of it.
Amen, Sam.
Lots of questions about that.
First off, Godspeed in your recovery.
And then it all goes clean and that bad boy grows back bigger and better than ever.
I hope your doctor or your surgeon's last name didn't end in Stein and he went in there and snuck a vasectomy under your nuts while you were out.
No.
My actual primary physician who made the referral is actually fairly based, as based as a boomer could be.
He's based.
And was the surgeon white, do you know, or was it an important person?
No, no, he was not.
And the only reason I used him was because my primary doctor.
He was a Palestinian.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
My primary doctor recommended him and I was just not, you know, say no.
And the way I picked my primary physician years ago was going through listings and looking for a white man, doctor.
Oh, sure.
Oh, yeah.
I've done the same thing with dentists and dermatologists, et cetera.
It doesn't get harder and harder every year.
But this is, you know, your primary guy, that's the guy you see all the time.
It's a relationship.
If you're lucky enough, yeah.
When we lived in Northern Virginia, our primary care doctors were changing.
Every time we went, it was a different Asian or subcontinental, not so out in the Mountain Mama.
I made the joke there.
I wanted to commiserate with you too.
You know, when I've torn my ACL, it's not about me, it's about you.
But when I've torn my ACL before, it's been in sports or in Charlottesville and you're like, okay, well, you were doing physical activity.
This last time, a year and a half ago, whatever, I was so bummed.
I was like, I was just kicking a damn soccer ball with my son in the mud when my foot slipped and I felt the pop.
I was like, that sucks.
And I even told him to.
I was like, you know, I don't want this to happen again, buddy.
Like, I can't go out and really put you through the training rigor and the passes in the corner kicks like before because I'm afraid I'm going to snap that thing again.
But yeah, feeling sorry for myself on the couch, like, oh, you 43-year-old lame-mo, you know, starting to have, you know, it's like falling and breaking your hip.
Like that's coming down the road.
Totally identify.
And I mean, I think I said that.
Well, you had probably actually involved some real pain.
I mean, on a scale of one to 10, what was your, you know, I was, you know, it was my fourth ACL repair.
So I was totally familiar with, you know, every single time I, I, you know, I took the pain medication in the immediate couple days afterward when it was really necessary and then had plenty left over, honestly, that I didn't need.
But I was like, oh, yeah, it's hurting a little bit.
Better take one of those bad boys.
Got them done.
Never had a Jones in for it.
But yeah, it's the loss of mobility, the needing help.
There was one morning where I was like, no, I'm getting up and going to the kitchen table to eat breakfast.
And then I felt the cold, clammy hands and my vision, you know, I started to feel cold sweats.
And I basically passed out at the table.
And my wife had to like sort of make sure I didn't fall over because I pushed it too hard, just trying to be self-reliant.
You're familiar with, you know, going for it.
But were you, I'm glad that you got that second opinion, but that would be my concern is that there's so much variety.
And this is not just about you.
It's totally relevant for our male aging audience.
And I know someone very well who had a prostatectomy.
It had spread, but who has had significant complications after the fact.
You know, there's, it's prostate cancer in men is a little bit like cataracts.
You live long enough, you will probably old man disease.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Joe Biden, et cetera.
But how, you know, did you just, your primary said, go see this guy and he said we should take it out.
And you got the second opinion and that was it.
Or did you do a deeper dive in consideration of the risks and letting it ride and observe it for longer?
No, they went through all that.
And the kind of the deciding factor was the family history.
Family history plus, yeah, and yeah.
And now just to, yeah, like you say, there's a value in discussing this because of our guys that listen to the show.
Our geezers.
Well, they might have to go through it.
Well, you know, even the you guys, yeah, one day, welcome to the club, book.
You don't even know what's in store for you.
But when I was about 19 or 20 years old, I had appendectomy and the appendix out.
And that was absolutely like a number 10 pain, like where your vision begins to spot like almost where you're going to pass out from the pain.
So compared to that, this is maybe a three, you know.
So I'm saying that just because if anyone says, oh, if I ever got to do that, I'm not going to do it or I'm afraid of that.
No, don't be afraid of it.
Don't shirk what things need to be done as you get older.
You have to take care of yourself.
I was listening to an older guy that I like to listen to sometimes.
And this guy's in his probably young 70s.
He was saying somewhat rashly, oh, I don't go to the doctor.
And that is not good.
Go to the doctor.
And I'm not saying obey them blindly, but at least make an informed decision based on things, you know, investigated.
And because it is true, there's the, there can be the overreach, right?
over doctoring.
That's possible too.
And you have to make decisions, but don't ignorance is bliss for a lot of people.
And they're like, I just don't want to know.
Let me keep, I'm happy right now.
But would you rather be, you know, one day you're going to be racked with pain and they're going to go take you to the doctor and you're going to have something extremely major.
Stage four cancer.
Yeah.
You know, something that maybe cannot be helped.
And then, but it could have maybe been helped very simply early on if you had done something as I have attempted to do.
You know, sure.
I remember many, many, many years ago, I had one little birthmark that was bothering me.
And so I said, well, I'm going to go to the skin doctor.
You know, I was stubborn.
I let it go for a while.
I said, I'm going to go.
And so the guy looked at me and he's like, oh, no, but this one, but that one, this one.
They ended up identifying nine of these little spots on me they wanted to take off.
Yep.
They took five off and they're everywhere.
They're on your leg.
You're on your back.
You can't sleep.
They bleed and everything.
No, none of them.
There was nothing wrong with any of them.
Big dermatology will cut you up good and proper for the shuckles.
Yeah.
See, and that's that's what I'm getting at.
Now they can detect things and test things in a way where it's like, oh, let's do something about that.
Well, okay.
And I'm not saying don't do something about it.
I'm just saying be informed, talk to people, get second opinion, you know, read about it a little bit and then make a good decision that you can live with.
But just to put your head in the sand and say, I don't go to the doctor.
That's not a good thing.
Agreed.
Good recipe.
I even know doctors who don't go to the doctor.
Now, granted, that's a different situation because they can self-diagnose.
Last, maybe last question.
Did you have any physical symptoms or was it strictly the family history?
All right.
Because everybody's been next to that old man who's like struggling to get piss out at the urinal right next door.
And you're like, oh, God.
No.
No, because that's the thing.
Every time I would have an appointment, they put you through the same questionnaire.
You know, how many times do you urinate in a day?
Like it's, if it's seven or less.
Well, seven.
I mean, you urinate seven times a day.
I don't.
I mean, once when you get up, maybe once in the middle of the day, once when you get home from work, once before you go to bed.
I mean, that's nowhere.
Five times while you're recording full house and having some three fluids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, anything they asked me, I was like, no, I have never had that problem.
And also like sexual health, like how do you perform sexually?
Is it, you know, a lot of personal detailed questions I'm not going to go into.
I'm like, no, no, I've never had.
So, you know, if I had gone just by probably 30, 40 years ago, the, you know, the digital exam, the questionnaire, you know, I would say that's what I'd just be riding it.
Yep.
Yeah.
So it's because they're able to do more advanced testing and stuff like that.
So anyways, go to the doctor, take care of yourself, make informed decisions.
Don't stick your head in the sand.
Thank you for sharing, as they perhaps say at Alcoholics Anonymous or whatever.
But sincerely, you know, like, you know, that's a very personal thing.
I guess they went through your belly.
It's not like they cut your sack open.
Not that you would have to be embarrassed about that anyway.
Woefully ignorant.
Some of our medical correspondents and listeners have mocked me over the years for various pronunciations.
Several incisions across the belly and they're small.
Yeah.
Yep.
I had my appendix taken out.
It was just like mildly inflamed, but I could feel it and they could see it and they took it out.
I was like, oh, whatever.
The worst pain I think I ever felt that was medically induced was my first ACL surgery in 2003 in Philadelphia.
Black nurse uh, post op, insisted that I need a cat, needed a catheter, and that I couldn't feel that my bladder was full.
I said I don't have to piss I, i'm not a moron, don't stick that thing in me.
She's like sir it's protocol, sir it's protocol I.
I can't really remember if she had that annoying dialect, but shove that catheter up my johnson and that was extraordinarily painful.
Um I, I sort of stupidly said colon cancer when you were talking about the digital manipulation, thinking about a finger up the butt.
Uh, but the colon cancer, perhaps epidemic among young Americans, is something that the mainstream media has covered a lot in the past year or two.
Um, and people who mistake or ignore symptoms like, oh, i've just got a stomach bug or, you know, maybe i'm constipated, but irregular, consistent bowel movements i'm not a medical professional, do your own homework.
But if your poop is not normal for some significant period of time uh, you know they talk to say it's the emulsifiers, the.
The most likely culprits is the diet um, not to mention obesity, and and not exercising.
But eating a lot of crap is like eating out your, your a-hole shoot essentially well, and the.
Uh uh, you know the sitting.
A lot of people do jobs that are sitting now and uh, and to that I recommend one thing that I have is a standing desk.
Do you have a standing desk coach?
Uh, when I was in the white collar world sam, I had a standing desk that I was very reluctant to take on because I thought it was like a hipster, trendy thing.
Well, I was like I was like well, you know what, I can always sit and stand when I want to.
I used it occasionally, but I was like you know what would be much more comfortable than standing at this goddamn desk?
Sitting at this desk good yeah no, and so I mean, but those types of things, you know, regulate what you do.
Don't just sit there for hours and hours, get up every 30 minutes, every 20 minutes, walk around and colonoscopy when you get over 50 or so.
But that also carries risks with it, by the way, and I I know of a case where a guy he uh got colonoscopy that that nicked, nicked the intestine uh, a mass of of bacteria like somehow moved from there to his heart and then to his brain and he became now he's like a retarded person really.
Yeah yeah well, I hope he's a multi-millionaire retarded person.
Yeah, that's that seems like a malpractice suit served up silver platter.
The only reason I know about it is because of uh, because it was a legal thing, you know.
But uh so got you.
That is uh, you know.
Even that is not to be overdone, you know, and uh, probably when you're in your 50s should be good, and maybe once every five to ten years, no more often than that.
Absolutely, apparently this is going to be a totally medically devoted second half, because Sam and I were ships passing in the night.
I, I knew that the prostate thing was lingering out there, but I didn't know that you had had the procedure done.
Shame on you.
Shame on me.
Whatever it washes out.
Yeah.
Hey, coach, today.
Hey, coach, I got my prostate out today.
I didn't, I didn't broadcast it.
I did tell just a couple of people.
And I certainly don't want people to feel sorry for me or anything like that.
But, you know, I, you know, like I say, there's value in putting it out there.
So somebody else take takes some courage to face things in their own life that they have to do.
And I, yeah, and I did tell you, you guys more just as an excuse to get out from doing the show, but I went to the ER with some sign, some minor, moderate concern for the first time.
Well, I had to go to the ER when I, when that tractor trailer totaled my truck and I was instructed to go to the ER to make sure I didn't have a control shot there.
Like, yeah, I was like, okay, fine, whatever.
It was nothing.
They were like, I was like, well, maybe my neck hurts a little bit here.
And the doc, to his credit, was like, get out of here.
You're fine.
But just over a week ago, my mom has a long cardiac history.
My dad does not.
But just over a week ago, I woke up.
Now, this was Labor Day Monday and I had a mild hangover.
Wifey and I stayed up having beers.
We were playing cards with the kids earlier in the night.
And then we were talking about all sorts of things in life.
But it was talk after 11 p.m.
Yeah, and quite and quite pleasantly.
Yes.
Okay.
It's not an iron law, Sam.
We can have drinks and talk after 11 or 12 sometimes.
No, it was lovely.
I had a good time, got a good night's sleep.
But the next morning, I felt a little bit of palpitations.
I wrote it off.
I was like, ah, you're probably dehydrated.
You know, have some breakfast, whatever.
Continued throughout the day.
I was like, well, that's annoying, but probably after a good night's sleep, it'll go away.
No, continued on into Tuesday.
I was like, huh, this sucks.
I felt fine.
I didn't have any chest pains, but I could just feel that at least once a minute, more accurately, a couple times a minute, like every 10th, fifth beat, something like that.
You know, it didn't feel like it missed one.
I wasn't about to pass out.
It just felt like an extra thump or a stronger, a stronger thump, like normal.
When your heart is working fine, you don't notice it.
When you have palpitations, you're like, oh, I felt that beat or that felt weird.
Yeah.
So it persisted into, persisted into a third day.
And I was like, okay, this is not normal.
This is not dehydration.
My mom has a long cardiac history, including surviving cardiac arrest.
I'm going to go to urgent care.
This is not an emergency room thing.
So I go to urgent care and lovely urgent care around here.
It's virtually brand new.
All of the medical professionals, even the secretary, are white.
Clientele usually is too.
It's very quick, professional.
Obviously, they're not all doctors, but they listen and they're, you know, make a call.
All right, you can get a prescription or this should go to the ER or you should follow up with your primary care doctor right away.
So they gave me, I asked when I just rolled up to the front desk and just said, look, I've been having palpitations for three days.
And do you have an EKG or an ECG here?
Different acronyms for the same thing.
And she said, yes, we do.
I was like, all right.
So just told her the scoop.
I even said I was mildly hungover on Monday, but I'm certainly not now.
And it's still happening.
I'm a little disturbed.
And so they did the thing and they're like, oh, yeah, we see a little sinus arrhythmia, but this is sort of a Mickey Mouse ECG.
And given that, they always want to play it safe, right?
They're like, we got a customer on the hook.
I mean, I think they made the right call.
They were like, go over to the ER.
We've got your baseline here.
So I'm like, okay.
And call my wife.
I'm going.
They recommended me to go to the ER, if this is where it ends.
You know, I was being totally melodramatic.
I didn't really think I was about to pass.
You know, I wasn't about to have a heart attack or cardiac arrest.
So I went over to the ER and the most amazing thing, you know, rural America, mid-sized city and clean.
Every single person that, that's not true, I'll get to that.
But, you know, it's because it's not always about race, but competent, prompt, friendly professionals, mostly white, went to the front desk, said, this is what's going on.
Here's my insurance card.
Here's my driver's license.
She gives me the wristband, you know, the feather for your bonnet that proves you've been through the medical system.
And she goes, just go have a seat over there and they'll see you.
And I was like, all right.
And I was drinking a lot to hydrate myself.
So I went to the bathroom, came out.
They're like, yep, Matt, let's go.
It's like, holy cow, that was fast.
Because I remember going to the ER in Washington, D.C. and waiting for an hour in a third world cesspool at Georgetown University when I first tore my ACL.
And they were like, it's a knee sprain.
Here's some ibuprofen and some crutches.
This son's a bit, right?
You know, Georgetown University ER.
And they couldn't diagnose.
I was walking like quasi-moto.
My knee was swelled up and they called it a freaking knee sprain after I waited in the ER for two hours, three hours, whatever it was.
Anyway, so they take me back.
I hope I'm not belaboring this too long, but it's like, okay.
And they got me in the room, prompt, courteous, professional.
I always have to make like cheesy jokes when I'm like, if this is it, guys, you're the last people I'll ever see in my life.
And they're like, bro, we've heard all this stuff.
But yeah, they hooked me up to, you know, they took blood pressure, of course, all this stuff.
They did all the tests and they're like, okay, now you're going over to the ER bed where we're going to run a 12 line ECG on you, you know, the more thorough ECG to get that.
And they did that.
And then a very professional, polite, patient, American-born Asian doctor, probably not a cardiologist, said that your ECG looks great.
I think we're going to let you out of here soon.
And I said, well, then what explains the palpitation?
It turns out you had heart cancer.
Yeah, it's still unclear to me.
I was like, okay, that's fine.
I mean, like, I'm not crazy.
I have no interest in being in the ER to get this done, you know?
She's like, no, you're good.
You're good to go.
And then, so the whole thing took an hour, which is incredible to me.
I thought this was going to be a multi-hour thing.
But they weren't rushing.
She was very professional and thorough.
And I'm like, all right, you're the doctor if you say I'm fine.
You know, maybe it's these PVCs, pre-ventricular contractions in a heart, which is something that happens.
My dad had them in his 40s.
Regardless, that happened.
And then like a day or two later, I guess the cardiologist reviewed the ECG and said, yes, you have a sinus arrhythmia and a left axis deviation, whatever the hell that means.
I'm really oversharing now.
Heart geeks will maybe get on this.
And those results go over to my primary care doctor.
And he said, well, come in and we'll get a halter monitor on you, which is sort of like something that it's like an ECG, but you can walk around with it.
You know, I'm more machine than man.
So they can get a longer record.
But the problem is that literally one week after I started to feel them, they went away.
So now I feel like a big phony and a waste and a, you know, a medical overconsumer.
But I'm going to go in and just give it straight to them, be like, I had one full week of abnormal palpitations.
You know, everybody gets palpitations, stress, exercise, maybe dehydration, et cetera.
But yeah, I'm going to have a little monitor on my heart and it's precautionary.
If I knew at the time that they were going to go away in a week, I probably wouldn't have gone in.
And I don't really want to get a halter monitor when my heart feels totally normal.
But that is the story.
I think the most interesting thing is that you can get good, prompt, professional, friendly medical care in white rural America.
That was my takeaway.
And I guess I will back up Sam there.
And I got a second opinion too.
I said, give it to me straight.
Am I being a pansy?
Am I being a worrywort about three straight days of palpitations?
And our friend said, no, with your mother's history, you should go in and get it checked out.
So anyway, there you go.
Knock on wood that it's not the beginning of the end for Coach's Old Ticker.
But I suspect if Full House continues into the years, we will morph into a men's health podcast.
Rollo is asleep and half intoxicated with angry portraits.
No, I know.
You've been painfully quiet.
He's like, this is what it's going to be.
Yeah.
I'm just busting your chops, buddy.
You've had your source, your share of problems, ailments over the years.
How's your prostate?
Mostly from you playing cricket and pickleball too vigorously.
Those are good games.
Yeah.
Deviated septum, Rolo, you know, funny bone, hyperactive funny bone.
Yeah.
What's going on?
Anything?
Well, you know, I have my own slew of physical issues that will probably never go away, but they're all structural.
Nothing orthopedic, more or less.
Aches and pains, right?
But you did remind me of a story of a guy that I go bowling with.
He said when he was 18, he had a terrible stomachache and he was living in New York.
So he took the New York transit all the way to the hospital.
And then they just said, oh, yeah, you just have this stomachache.
We'll give you a syrup for it.
And then he took it and, you know, nothing really changed.
And then after a week, it went away.
And then years later, he went to the doctor and he had a pain and they got an x-ray and said, huh, did you get it?
Oh, sorry.
Close.
They said, did you know that your appendix burst?
He survived it.
He said, when did my appendix burst?
He said, well, you should have known when.
And he showed him.
Judging from the fossil record.
It callused around.
So somehow this guy just survived his appendix bursting.
It's hard to believe because that is so painful.
Well, he said it was like the worst stomachache he ever had.
And then he was he was very skeptical that he had just a stomach ache, but he just he just powered.
Details from the ER.
Yeah.
You'd think that they would be excessive, like they've got a paying customer in theory, right?
You know, like insurance, especially if they have an insurance card, play it safe.
But no, knee sprain and tummy ache when it was an ACL tear and an appendix rupture.
Incredible.
Yep.
Yeah.
All right.
And luckily, he didn't die from it because you can very easily die from an appendix rupture.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of our, one of our friends, his son had one and was hospitalized very seriously for it.
Yeah.
So don't dismiss those tummy aches.
It's easy to blame the ER doctors, but mom and dad can be like, you're trying to play hookie when it's something more serious.
Another thing, another lesson that I drew from the experience is when you have something like that, Coach, maybe you can listen and agree if you do.
But, you know, when you go through that type of experience, it's kind of like a reset button.
And so like, for instance, it's all your habits are kind of disrupted, which gives you a chance to maybe reset some better habits of maybe, you know, getting your diet in order, you know?
So I had like, you know, you have almost no appetite.
When you finally do eat something, it takes almost nothing and you feel full, you know, so, you know, giving, you know, cutting back on the beers and all that type of coffee and all that type of stuff.
I've cut, you know, some years ago, I completely gave up coffee, but I kind of went back to, I would have like literally a six ounce little cup in the morning, but I had no desire for that.
Get rid of that.
I do enjoy having a beer, you know, especially with friends who are on this show, but I just don't have any desire for it.
And, you know, as much as I work out and try to take care of myself, if I didn't drink any beer, I could probably finally shed that last maybe 15 or so pounds that I could never do.
So I'm trying to make progress that way.
So, you know, when you go through something like this, it's a chance to hit the reset button and maybe reset some of your habits.
Did you find any of that to be true, Coach?
Well, you know, Sam, you mentioned that.
It's funny because I've gone long stretches teetotaling before, but the problem with that is that you start to feel and look so good that you want to party.
You know, it puts you in such a good mood.
Come on, you know, let's go get a 30 rack and have a party.
Well, I mean, in my case, there's, there's, you know, in my situation, coffee and beer are two things that make you want to go.
If you know what I mean.
And right now, I'm just kind of working through that stage of it.
So I don't want anything more that's going to make me go more than necessary.
So totally familiar.
Yep.
You know, so.
Yeah.
So to answer your question, I was like, well, you know, I've been drinking close to a pot of coffee daily in, you know, over the day for me every time.
Probably a decade.
I've never had more than a cup.
Oh, yeah, because I got to get up so early some days and I'll start with that and then just sort of trickle it throughout the day.
But it's never given me palpitations.
Obviously, anybody can consume enough caffeine to where they start to feel jittery and then you naturally back off.
But I guess, yeah, so I was like, all right, well, let's try to fix this and like get a good night's sleep, you know, hydrate, et cetera.
I dialed back on the coffee.
I would have a cup or two instead of four or six.
But they persisted.
So I was like, huh, maybe there's just something, you know, maybe I was rationalizing it in my head that there's something wrong with my electrical system or my natural pacemaker, whatever the nerves are in the heart that regulate it.
And then it just went away.
It just faded away.
And that happens a lot, right?
You guys remember I had a terrible pinched nerve in my neck for like weeks last summer where I would be doing the show and like leaning over and grabbing it.
And it just remembered that it went away.
Yeah.
No, totally was true.
It just like just happened.
I woke up with a crick in my neck and it lasted for a month or two.
And actually, I have heals a lot.
Time heals a lot aside from the series.
A good uh, stretching routine that you do?
No, I don't have a good stretching routine.
I don't have a good sleep routine.
Yeah, I just go out and run.
I, I do push-ups, I run, i'll do some sit-ups.
I don't have any good steps around here.
I would love to do those.
Um, i've got lots of other stuff going on in my life that I would just walk down the hill.
Uh yeah, I do that too.
Um, because the chickens are sleeping in the coop again down in the valley.
So every night I have to go close them up.
And uh, we had a fox that ravaged the flock slowly but surely, because they were sleeping in trees, and I was like, if you dumb bastards want to sleep in the trees like I can't, you know wave a lantern or a whip and uh, herd you into the coop every night.
Um so so, finally the fox got the rooster uh George, with some hens left over, and as soon as George was dead, the hens immediately started sleeping in the coop, like we're out from under the yoke of that dumb, stubborn bastard who wanted to sleep in the fresh air, and they went right back to the coop.
So now we can close the coop every night and keep them safe and they started laying somewhere else.
Anyway, it's a whole thing, uh.
But uh yeah, you know, i've never been the big weight guy.
Um, I like running, I like cardio.
Um, i'm not in great shape and i'm certainly not like weak and all broke down and i'm kind of okay with that.
I know the level of food discipline and exercise discipline that it takes to look more cut and ripped.
Yeah, perhaps I don't know, I haven't seen you in two years.
It's the same.
Okay, take your word for it.
You're like a small picture on the thing.
Um, humble brag there.
Uh, for yourself, rollo.
But that uh, if i'm speaking honestly, like I enjoy eating big meals and occasionally exercising and the last thing I want to do is go spend a lot of time in the gym.
You can call me lazy or that.
That's not adequately Arian uh, but that's the truth.
So I know i'm not alone in that.
Um, I can and I I, I self-regulate, right.
If I look in the mirror and i'm like looking a little doughy there, your face is looking a little bit chubby.
Uh, i'll dial it back.
I'll always gain a lot in the winter and then, you know, lose almost all of it in the summer and it's just the way it is.
And i'm healthier than probably 90 of men my age uh, possibly flickering.
Ticker aside um, let's pivot off the medicine.
God, that was a long segment already, 15 minutes in.
Uh wanted to give props to Rollo.
I have busted his chops in the past.
Some of his musical and cinematic recommendations have been utter dogs.
Uh Sam, sometimes too, you're not off the hook either.
But Rollo recommended Game Night.
Uh, with uh, Jason Bateman and the guy from Friday Night lights, the tv show and a couple of actions, Rachel Dexter.
Dexter makes a small appearance at the end.
Wonderfully acted heartwarming funny, creative.
Perfect for a night with your girlfriend or your wife, because it's something that I think men and women can enjoy simultaneously.
Yes, there's a black couple who's in the friend group and they're actually really funny.
They're not interracial, they're just black.
Exactly yes, absolutely.
We won't do a big thing here, but I enjoyed it and I was totally surprised because it was a Rollo recommendation.
I said to my wife, Rollo recommended Game Night I.
I watched it twice.
It was that good, once alone, once with my wife, just to filter it.
So I don't waste her time.
She loved it too.
We all agreed.
Sam hasn't seen it yet it was on.
It was on Amazon Prime.
I assume it still is.
I don't know It has taken seriously six years for that to be on a streaming service where I don't have to pay $4 to watch it.
I had never heard of it.
Never saw a preview or a trailer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, the Final Storm went and saw it opening night.
Just like, I just was like, this looks weird, but this looks like this could somehow be funny.
And it's the only movie I recommend it to everyone because seriously, every comedy since there's something about Mary is about like sitting on the toilet and like boners.
That's it.
Like it's, it's hard to find a comedy that's not just gross.
And it is the only comedy that it's, it's like, it's jokes, it's performances, it's timing, and the scenarios are good.
Plot twists.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's the movie that it's got it all.
And it, uh, and I asked Rolo in advance, like, are there sex scenes or gore scenes in the future?
There was a little bit of blood, like minor amount.
It's not appropriate for single-digit age children.
It was fine for junior.
And I was like, eh, too much for daughter.
So yeah.
I don't think there was sex in it.
Like there wasn't any nudity as far as no, no, nothing, nothing like that.
Definitely some violence, some violence for sure.
There was plenty of violence.
There was plenty of violence.
And it did have a full house ending.
I'm trying to think what a full house ending is.
I mean, I know it had a happy ending, but let's not spoil it.
The very end.
You're wrecking my memory.
Don't spoil it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, let me think about it.
I will circle back, Rolo, just to make sure that I'm not retarded or losing my marbles in addition to my heart.
Well, I mean, I remember the plane scene at the end.
No, the very, very end.
I'm talking the very end, like right before the credits roll.
Okay.
I will say that Jesse Plemons is still so funny.
The black guy doing the Denzel impression, it made me fall off my chair.
Yeah.
Anyway, as long as you're not too up your own ass on like white racial identity politics and like seeing a black person in a film, I think you can enjoy it.
I hope that you can.
And most importantly, a woman, your wife or your girlfriend or your sister or your mama, whatever will enjoy it too, I think.
And I will much more tepidly, guiltily endorse the new Alien TV series on FX.
I do have a bit of a homo bromance crush on Timothy Oliphant, who I think is awesome.
My wife always chides me.
You know, oh, if you had to be gay, you'd be gay with Timothy Oliphant.
I just think he's awesome.
I first saw him in Go, Deadwood, and he's awesome in this as one of the androids.
Rollo hasn't seen it yet, I don't think as an alien fan.
It's available.
It's got a lot of problems.
It's very multiracial, but I sort of justify that as like Alien has always been like that back to Ripley in the late 70s and inexplicable inexplicable protocols in the alien movies when it comes to engaging with alien life forms.
Like, well, let's just go in without any hazmat suits and do a dissection on this alien.
How did you possibly make it?
Yeah.
There's that in spades.
And like, why would you do it this way?
However, it is entertaining.
And I'm already kind of excited for the next one to come out.
And they always play something from the 80s or the 90s to close out a show.
And it's almost like, oh man, that's a song I would have picked.
Like, great job.
And when you see the credits like directed by and all and written by, it seems pretty goyish, even with the cast and all that.
So yes, I admitted I'm a big Timothy Oliphant fan.
And that series is kind of goy slop, but enjoyable ones.
And I make no qualms for watching Alien Earth on FX through Hulu once per week.
That's over.
JO asked a profound question about would you ever turn your son in?
Let's say that your son shot Charlie Kirk or shot someone else or went and was a tranny and shot up a school.
Would you do what Charlie Kirk's assassin did and turn him in essentially or reach out?
I guess it was a family member and uncle who first said, hey, that looks like my nephew.
And then the dad was like, all right, I'm going to go find him.
He's in Zion National Park and then convince him to turn himself in.
Somebody said, is this the first time an assassin has ever willingly turned himself in?
Again, the kid's 22 years old.
He may have said they're going to give you like, because there was that press conference where the guy said, Utah absolutely has the death penalty.
So it's very possible they just said like, they're going to catch you eventually and they're going to give you the death penalty.
Yeah.
And somebody said, because he turned himself in, that he'll get life.
They'll get a lesser.
It's likely he'll get a more lenient sentence, but they can still give him like 10 death penalties.
Yeah.
Be like, I don't know.
I'll blow my brains out in Zion National Park or like, you know, just give it a go.
But not if you were 22.
I certainly wouldn't be planning assassinations of like civilian political activists at any age of my life.
But at 22, you did dumb stuff.
That's the thing.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
You just weren't lucky enough.
You weren't surrounded by retards like this guy was.
I was in a port-a-potty once and my fraternal big brother pushed it over while I was inside on the street.
It was funny.
And surprisingly, I didn't.
Was your fraternal brother Johnny Knoxville?
I'm down in Knoxville.
And this is hazy.
Yeah, this is before Jackass.
And no, I was already a brother at that time.
We were like on our way home to the campus after like drinking it.
And he's like, you know, it'll be fun.
I'm down in Knoxville and this is the port-a-potty.
I'm coached now, but I was military back in college because when I was a freshman, I did Army ROTC.
So I had my BDUs, my battle dress uniform on occasionally going to class.
And there were a lot of mats.
So I was military mat.
Anyway, but would you, and I, and my instant thought was if my son did something heinous enough that I would turn him in.
And then somebody said, no, father's job there is to take care of the job himself.
And I get, you know, implying you would put down a rabid dog.
But I don't know that I could do that.
And then I would risk going to prison for putting down my own rabid dog, which would make things worse.
But who were you talking to?
Clint Eastwood from the movie Unforgiven?
Anyone that said that?
Like, come on, dude.
Is that like online LARPing or bro talk?
It sounds like it.
Like, that sounds like something that a 30-something-year-old would say, trying to sound like he's some kind of rugged frontiersman.
Yeah, like if one of my sons at school, am I going to like hide him and be an accessory?
Am I going to go kill my own son?
I think you hide your son if he did something like he takes out like George Soros or something like that.
Or like it was like something objectively righteous.
I understand what you're saying.
And I will refuse to elaborate on the situations in which I will be an accomplice to hiding a felony murderer.
Just a little circumspection here, even though we're late.
Well, I don't have a son, so that wouldn't happen to me.
You don't have to comment.
It's a counterfactual for you, Rollo.
But Sam, let's put the hard ones to you.
One of your many sons does something very bad.
Any thoughts you care to share here?
I agree exactly with what you just said.
Yeah, if it was some sort of horrible thing that I, you know, abhor and all that, of course, you would turn them in.
And if it was something like, you know, he killed a child molester or something like that.
Well, you know, that's an easier one.
That's what I mean.
Like, yeah, because there's a line between like.
Oh, and this is between y'all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think there's a line between your kid does something like heinous, like your kid molests a child versus evil and unforgivable versus versus something that like common sense a hundred years ago, you know, they'd get away with it.
Yeah.
Well, not 100 years ago anymore, but whatever.
Yeah.
At 1.16 a.m. here on Saturday, September 13th with a day of stuff tomorrow.
Sam, I don't want to cut us short, but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
And we, you know, now it's the fall.
There's no more summer excuse.
Your prostate is mostly healed.
And I'm probably not going to keel over between now and a week from now.
So we can get back into a more regular schedule.
Don't hold me to that.
But for those who made it to this point, I am going to acknowledge what is a tiny elephant in the room and of mild interest, certainly scuttle button Twittering of, yeah.
I mean, look, we debated whether we're going to talk about this or not.
We're mad enough to talk about it.
Well, we discussed whether we were going to talk about it.
I don't know if we debated it.
I don't think we came on a conclusion.
I think there was too much.
Okay, I think you wanted to do it.
I feel like I have to.
And I feel like I can do it in the respectable way.
And it's not like I'm breaking news here.
Maybe, maybe I'm amplifying something that shouldn't be amplified, but whatever.
Cantwell on his Telegram channel came out and said that he had been utilizing Grindr for some years, that this habit or activity has gone back even further than that.
He posted a PDF of a piece of gay fiction or semi-autobiographical stuff.
And obviously, for those who have listened to this for a long time, we've had Cantwell on.
No regrets for that.
We had a little bit of a collab there for a while.
And that this is largely overwhelmingly, if not 100% anathema to all of us.
And there's no justification or this or that, or I'm not gay.
I just occasionally use Grindr.
Maybe Chris will hear this.
Maybe not.
I do not have malice in my heart toward Chris.
I'm not going to lay into him.
I didn't have to address this at all, but I felt compelled or some responsibility to address it.
And, you know, Chris knows this is true.
About six months ago, he messaged me and said, hey, I wrote this thing.
You should read it.
I think it's one of the best things I've ever written.
And it was that thing that he wrote.
And I started reading it and pretty, I was like, is this going?
Oh, yes.
This is going in a sort of gay erotica way.
And I stopped and I just wrote back and said, look, I have a personal policy of not consuming gay propaganda or gay pornography.
And I just said, I'm not going to read it and I don't think you should publish it or, you know, release it.
And that was, I think that was the last communication that we had.
And then he got in more trouble up there.
And then for whatever reason, decided to come clean on his past activities with some caveats and stuff like that.
Crazy.
That's the categorization there.
You know, the bigger thing is that there's just been so many examples similar or in the ballpark to this before where prominent people or activists or whatever have had one thing after another.
We're all human.
We all have foibles.
We all have flaws.
Some of them worse than others.
Some of them excusable.
If it happens once, you cut a guy a break.
If it becomes habitual, then you have to say, all right, you have to help yourself.
You know, there's no more helping going on.
But that's, that's basically the story.
As tempting as it is to crack some jokes or have a little bit of levity here, it's not really funny.
No, it's, it's gross.
We don't endorse it.
We're not, yeah, it sucks.
It's probably related to chemical consumption and difficult circumstances leading to bad choices, et cetera, et cetera.
You don't need a sermon from me.
I suspect, you know, shame on me if I amplified something that shouldn't be amplified, but it's out there.
He put it out there.
It's not like I was covering for him.
I just was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, bad news.
Don't like it.
Don't put it out.
And here we are six months later and it's out.
That's it.
Go ahead, Sam.
Yeah, well, when somebody's getting overcome by that, it's this is certainly like demonic possession.
I remember a quote from, I'm pretty sure it's St. Catherine of Siena.
She said, like, when the, when the devils finally ruin somebody, the last thing is this turning them homosexual.
And even at that, the devil turns away because even though the devil is a fallen angel, they still have some dignity as an angel.
And they can't, even they cannot stand to look at this thing.
So he's in truly a dark place.
And we've talked to the guy before.
We like him.
More than that.
Yeah.
We've been a friend to him.
We were all about boosting him when he got out of prison.
He came out strong with surreal politics.
It was great.
So this is a person who's become mired in something very seriously evil.
Yeah, a relapse, essentially.
So, yeah, Chris, you know, if you it's like, how do you handle this?
Maybe I should have just said nothing, but I felt compelled to say something and I've probably said enough.
It sucks.
I'm not happy about it.
I don't know if somebody can turn that around.
It seems as though coming out for 99% of gay men is probably like their final statement.
Like, well, not even coming out.
Like, I'm not gay.
I just occasionally do this thing.
You know, don't gay.
Yeah, iced tea.
Who, by the way, I had a poster of on the back of my door, original gangster.
You had an iced tea poster.
I had an iced tea poster on the back of my door for many years growing up, even though I never had that album.
And I, really gay.
I was just, yeah, see?
Yeah.
That was, that was pretty gay on my part, or at least wiggerish.
It looked kind of cool.
Hey, I got a, I got a black gangster on the back of my bedroom door.
Now I'm super.
A lot of those are super gay.
A lot of those dudes were gay.
Dingo gay.
Yeah.
Well Sam, I hadn't thought about it, but you're like, well, you know they, they take the view that if you're on the receiving end of one of them or on the yeah yeah, bladdocks are always lying about that kind of stuff.
Be gay niggas, be kissing, isn't that the?
I never really delved into that.
They do be kissing yeah, but i'm yeah on the lips.
Yeah, it's funny.
You know, during the break we were talking about many of the people who we have either supported or helped materially directly, only to have turned or flipped or disappeared or had some irredeemable flaw or sin going on.
And there was another example of that recently that I won't get into.
And it's just like, at a certain point, you're like I I, i'm choosing not to let some, let somebody else help at this point or, you know, pick up the pieces or play with broken toys.
Yeah, i'm not, i'm not doing it anymore, i'm too old for that.
Can I start saying that?
Yeah yes I, I expect it.
Yeah well yeah, thank you for entertaining that.
I felt some obligation to share because we had a you know relationship and i'm not, i'm not happy about it and maybe maybe you can turn around.
I doubt it uh, at this point.
At this point, he seems determined.
Yeah, i've.
A few years back we did our commentary track on Nightmare On Elm Street too uh, Freddie's Revenge, which is always bringing it back to that Rollo classic we are.
Thank you for, for the segue, one of my favorite movies ever.
Um, it is absolutely an anti-gay movie, but in it I made the comment that I, I do believe that homosexuals are actually just demon possessed.
Some of them yeah, and and, and our friend John Fashcroft, who joined us, he said uh, he believed also uh, tweakers as well.
yeah i mean you start putting weird things in your butt and weird chemicals in your body it's like you know we can i don't necessarily buy that um i get i'm gonna let the dog out but i can still hear you guys go ahead Certainly a part of it anyways.
And uh yeah, you mess with dangerous stuff, dangerous activities, dangerous drugs.
Um, you're weakening yourself.
If we don't, we don't have to be spiritual about it, you're just gonna.
I mean, even with the hangover, you'll find that you'll have more anxiety or more dark thoughts, and when you're sleeping well and eating well and staying hydrated and all that stuff um, you're more positive and more productive.
It's that you know whether you want to go the spiritual route or just the biochemical route.
I think both are probably valid.
Yeah, living healthier, feeling better, looking better, being more positive, which should certainly be a goal in these days.
Well, that is everything that I have in my notes.
Um, after the show, I have to go digging for one or two new white lives that may or may not be lurking out there and which I certainly hope our correspondents don't uh, have significant butt hurt.
No relevance to previous discussion about and I have to do musical choices for a bumper.
We got to do a bumper this week.
Rollo, i'll pick the break and Sam uh yep, i'm going to listen to Rollo's music and possibly use that for the break.
And Sam, you have the close this week.
Let's just go with the tune that you sent, that I listened to and liked, but uh, let the audience know what they're going to hear.
To close us out at 215.
Very touching song, at least to me.
This is Nigel Brown.
Nigel Brown was a skinhead who passed away in the last couple months.
He had a heart attack, as it so happens.
And he was maybe just my age or a couple of years younger, you know, in that category.
So it's not completely, you know, that is something that happens, unfortunately.
But anyways, a good man who's in some very influential bands through the years.
He was actually Australian by birth, but he spent time in England and Scotland.
He was in No Remorse.
He was in the band Nemesis, both great bands.
He was in other stuff too.
I'd have to go through his whole thing, make a list of his things he did.
But influential guy, talented guy.
And he just made this little video of him covering a screwdriver song called Suddenly, which is poignant because he passed away recently.
And the song is about, you know, if something happens to me, you have to carry on this fight.
Amen.
Nigel Brown performing suddenly.
And I hope you enjoy it.
Thank you, Sam.
Thank you, audience.
Despite the irregular recording schedule, we do still love you.
We do still carry the flame and the hope and the pride to various degrees.
And yeah, we got a bunch of people still to talk to, and we will do as many as we can despite false and all the rest of the stuff going on with us.
Rolo, it's all yours.
Take us out, please.
See ya.
See ya.
Okay, folks, here's a song that I think most of you should know, written by a great man.
It's called Suddenly.
Our fools to an evil pen.
And freedom's life is glow-ended.
One day, suddenly, I'm forced to take my leave.
Will you still carry on with the things that we believe?
One day, suddenly, they take my life away.
Will you still be fighting to win a bright new day?
The people who stood against us seem to be above the law.
With the power to listen in to private Mormons all our lives.
And the power to come and kick down our doors.
One day, suddenly, I'm forced to take my leave.
Will you still carry on with the things that we believe?
One day, suddenly, you take my life away.
Will you still be fighting a winner, bright new day?
Has come from idols Many years old Strength that I survived without blood, a strength I've always recognized.
He swore to drag it down.
He wants to drag out people through the mud.
One day, suddenly, I'm forced to take my leave.
Will you still carry on with the things that we believe?
One day, suddenly, take my life away.
Will you still be fighting a winner, bright new day?
One day, suddenly, you take my life away.
Will you still carry on with the things that we believe?
One day, suddenly, you take my life away.
Will you still be fighting to win a bright new day?