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We've hosted a spring gardening special every March or April since 2020.
I went back and looked it up.
But this is the first time in those five years that I have not been enthusiastic to put another one together.
For one thing, there's clearly a bunch of bugman urbanite bums in the audience because our numbers always go down a little for these shows.
To paraphrase from one special guest in the past with the gall to skip these labors of love, I'll just go to the grocery store.
But since we've already extolled the glorious joys of the green thumb numerous times, there's quite a few downsides to mention too.
To start, it's not necessarily cheap.
Tools, soil, mulch, seeds, trees, lumber, fencing, hoses, fertilizer, insecticide, and even water if you're on a municipal supply can add up depending on how elaborate you get.
And that's not to mention the time, attention, and labor required to see things through from seed to crop.
If you don't love doing it, it can quickly start to feel like drudgery.
The self-sufficiency imperative that took off around COVID has faded a bit too.
Right or wrong, I'm slightly less concerned about being able to feed my family off the fruits of our land now than in recent years.
Although with tariffs looming, an avocado tree or two would indeed be nice.
Yes, I know I can't grow them in my zone.
Perhaps most daunting, though, is the myriad natural challenges that can make gardening a thoroughly frustrating experience.
The heat and drought that hit us last summer were so bad that I worried about using too much water from our well to keep things alive, and many died anyway.
Our free-range chickens are an absolute menace to seedlings.
If they're not pecking them up, they're spoiling themselves with a dirt bath in a raised bed in the midday sun.
Almost everything has to be protected not just from them, but also the deer, raccoons, and rabbits that are more afraid of my dog than me.
And if the temptations of modernity, climate, and wild menaces don't dissuade you, there's also legions of insects that will tempt you to douse your crops with chemicals, strange fungi and blights to research, and of course, weeds that will choke out your plants if not your will to plant.
From the edible but aggressive chickweed in early spring to the strangulating spread of creeping Charlie just later to the high summer enemy crabgrass.
I can already see myself hunched over in stifling heat trying to pry these invasives out with dirty fingernails.
All that said, this week we welcome a gardening pro, a first-time guest, and the first woman we've welcomed in some time to tell us all to suck it up, buttercups, and get out there in planting real soon.
So, Mr. Producer, hit it.
Welcome, everyone, to Full House, the world's most cultivated show for white fathers.
See what I did there?
Mothers, aspiring ones, and the whole biofam.
It is episode 211.
It's April 10th, 2025, and I'm your lazy bones host, Coach Finstock, with zero frost excuses left now, probably to get out and plant some seeds in the greenhouse this weekend.
Before we meet the birth panel, though, big thanks to King Charles for his kind support of Full House this week.
Check us out at givesendgo.com slash fullhouse if you like what you hear of this show.
And after all that, let's get on with it.
Our special guest is shivering on top of a mountain somewhere, waiting to share her expertise with us.
First up, you'll know when you're driving past his house on the main streets of Oshkosh because he has legions of those painted wooden lawn decorations of old ladies bending over in their sundresses in the garden.
When asked about this odd decoration choice, he replied, I don't know.
It just really gets my engine going.
Sam, you all horn dog.
I could see you having one or two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Hey, Coach, it's good to be here.
Hey, Rolo, notice how we tricked Coach into two shows in one week.
This is one step closer to the ultimate goal where this becomes a two-show a week show.
Yeah, no more.
No less.
Yeah, no, that's good, Coach.
It's good to be here.
And yeah, when I heard you kind of delaying and him hawing about whether we'd have a garden show, I had to try to encourage you and shake something loose because, you know, the gardening show inspired me no less five years ago or so.
And to get into it, and now every year, my family, we're out there doing something.
It's it would be on a small scale, even now where we are.
But, you know, and I think that's the message is that everybody can do something and everybody should do something.
And so I'm looking forward to our guests to give us some new ideas and some encouragement.
Absolutely, Sam.
Thank you for helping to put it together.
Show is always easier when you have a wonderful guest.
And there is such a thing as overdoing it and getting a little bit too aggressive or ambitious in the garden.
And, you know, maybe it's sort of spread over the past couple of years, which is a good problem to have, but that'll give you headaches and that might be part of it here too.
But really, really, it was just that miserable drought that I was like, this sucks.
Screw this.
I will go to the grocery store like that guest who will remain unnamed.
All right.
Next up, in a tragic case of arrested homestead development, he's competent enough to keep his happy and plateful goats happy, healthy, and alive.
But I don't know if he's ever planted so much as a tomato seed in elementary school on one of those styrofoam cups up in the windowsill.
Rolo, what's up on the dirt farm?
Well, I recently built a greenhouse, but get out of here.
No, I did.
I did.
I did.
Yeah.
But I want to add an addendum to something that I said on the last show.
You, you asked a serious question, and I think I gave kind of a stupid answer when I said, would you forgive a tiger for killing your child?
I do believe it is my duty as a Christian to forgive.
But in these cases where your teens, your youths, your joggers, your future doctors, whatever, they never have.
I've never seen them genuinely express remorse.
Sure.
And I think you should never forgive anyone that doesn't genuinely apologize.
Especially, you should never preemptively forgive someone.
Fair enough.
Had that weighing on your conscience, huh?
No, no, it was just once we stopped recording.
I was like, oh, crap.
That's what I should have said.
Yeah.
And of course, I was thinking that you were almost making the opposite point.
Well, they're not capable of reason.
So therefore, you know, there's no, I've never seen the point I think I was making.
Right.
Yeah.
I've just, I've never seen it happen.
So, you know, until it happens, but still, um, yeah.
They might apologize in front of the judge to try to get a shorter sentence.
Oh, yeah.
That's why that's why, that's why I said genuinely sorry.
Because I mean, they'll still do the second grade, like, Bobby, what do you say to Johnny?
Sorry.
Okay.
Right.
Sorry.
Yeah, sometimes they'll jump over the table to go to try to choke out the judge too flying they often.
They often do that, let's be a realistic.
Well, I might need more clips, because that's high entertainment yeah, but my point is, if someone is not sorry, then you should absolutely never forgive them because you don't.
You don't forgive someone.
Well, it's not apologizing.
I don't know, if my brother said something that I didn't like, maybe i'd forgive him, in my heart at least, you know.
But I wouldn't rush up to him to say I forgive you if he wasn't sorry.
Well, it's well, something like that.
Though, like you know, like your brother might say something dumb but, like you, you outweigh the good versus the bad.
We're talking like a stranger and their trespasses.
And the other thing too is, if i'm prompted to apologize, i'm going to be must much less likely to apologize.
I will apologize if I feel guilty and you know definite, that I was in the wrong and shouldn't have done something, uh.
But if not really, and you're like you didn't even apologize, then i'll be like, yeah, that's right, because i'm not sorry, or I don't want to give you the satisfaction because it was a 50-50 case.
Anyway, thank you for that rollo.
And finally, our special and very patient guest.
I did not ask to see her master gardener's certificate certification in advance, instead rolling with our own high trust society of sorts and the confidence that a friend of Sam's is a friend of ours and it is genuinely nice to welcome a classy lady to class up the joint for us for the first time in too long.
Cami, warm welcome to full house.
Thank you, how are you tonight?
I am well.
I am well.
Thank you appreciate the efforts you went to to get the good audio and a cozy spot.
Uh, lay it on us please, cami, your ethnicity, your religion and your motherhood status.
I have a 22 year old daughter.
I am a Christian, I am a white American, but if we want percents, I am a third Scandinavian, a third English and a third Scottish.
A lovely blend.
Thank you very much.
And how did you end up?
Uh, I guess Sam's violent radical extremism has not scared you off yet.
He's done a good job hiding it.
But how'd you get mixed up uh, in the scene or with the ideology, whether it was, you know, a traumatic experience, the red pill experience, or just uh, recognizing the world as it is so?
So neither of those things.
I was born and raised in the Deep South and my family were um, are southern nationalist and we were always racially aware and um, as far as red pills, I really didn't know what that meant until um constantly seeing people mention that on Telegram like, what exactly does that mean?
So um, as so, as far as understanding the enemy, and um, that probably came about 20 years ago, maybe about 20 years ago, my idea of who Israel was and who God's chosen people and even Christ himself not being a what we know of as modern day Jews.
I came to that understanding.
But as far as loving my people, supporting my people and being racially aware, thankfully, that's been my entire lifetime.
One of the, yeah, I feel like you have a greater likelihood of coming out that way and being born and raised with it if you're from the South than if you're a Yankee like me or a nice Midwesterner or a California surfer boy.
So God bless the South for that.
Let's start off with a kind of funny question.
Being from the South, have you ever planted cotton?
I don't know if that's something that people do in like their backyard just for fun or as an experiment, but yeah.
No, it's definitely a crop, a money-making crop, a cash crop is what they call it around here.
But no, it is not something that I have ever planted.
Okay.
I was just curious.
That one popped out of left field for me.
But Kami, tell us, I guess, a little bit of your gardening background, why you love it.
You know, were you out there with your father, your mother, your grandparents?
Have you been doing it for a long time?
What's your passion?
Anything here at the top, top lines, please.
Okay, well, I grew up watching my parents and my grandparents garden, but I was the kind of child that tried to get out of hard work.
So I didn't really do a lot as a child as far as the gardening, the canning, the preserving, all of that was concerned.
So I've been married for 29 years, and it was 23 years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter.
I'd already been married several years, and my husband and I bought our groceries at the grocery store.
But it's like the moment I got pregnant, it just came on me.
You know, I had to, I had to know where my food was coming from.
I wanted to grow it myself.
And so I had my first garden 23 years ago.
And actually at that time, I was living in Minnesota.
And it was very different as far as the climate, a very short growing season, but I had a very successful garden.
And then we moved back south a year later.
And I have had a garden ever since.
And early on, I learned about permaculture and food forest and no-till gardening.
And I learned about how horrible monoculture and using chemical fertilizers and things like that were.
And so I've been very successful with growing food.
I do raise a lot of livestock and then I grow a lot of vegetables.
And I'm able to provide maybe 85% of my family's food.
And I really, it's just wonderful.
You know, when I go to the grocery store, it's for sugar and lemons and tea bags.
It's really wonderful to be able to raise all of our meat and the majority of our fruits and vegetables.
So yeah, I have a lot of gardens.
I have a food forest.
And there were a lot of things that were mentioned in your opening about not having any rain.
Well, there's a way to, there's a way to grow food where it really doesn't matter if it doesn't rain for a month and a half or two months because the way you've created your systems and have mulch and you're retaining water, it's really not necessary to water weekly and to depend on what would be the word, consistent rains.
So yeah, it's really exciting.
I absolutely love growing food.
I also grow a lot of herbs.
I grow over 50 different medicinal herbs.
Not only are those for my family, but a lot of it's for my animals.
And then I make a lot of medicines with those for people in the community that don't do mainstream healthcare.
So yeah, it's really exciting.
I absolutely love growing food.
I love knowing where my food came from.
And yeah.
Well, that's incredible.
Absolutely.
We salute you.
And shame on Sam.
He told me, oh, she likes some flower gardens and little things like that.
He didn't tell me overwhelmingly self-sufficient, you old dog.
No, I actually, I do not, I do not grow flowers.
I do not grow anything that is not edible or medicinal.
And yeah, so I'm actually not a flower grower.
Yeah, I was joking, of course, but I actually feel the same way.
I mean, if I'm going to put in the time and effort, perhaps less with a less natural passion for it or enjoyment than you.
I'm like, you know, we can make this functional.
And my classic favorite, of course, is just to grow cucumbers in the summer.
One, they're easy.
Two, the kids love them.
And three, you get a ton of them almost, you know, from five, seven, eight seeds could probably is enough for our family of five.
And a real quick story.
My paternal grandfather grew up in Princeton, Minnesota, and he would always joke with people that he was a Princeton man, despite not going to college.
But it was an experience out.
He was a young teenager and he planted a field of tomatoes himself early in the Depression, I want to say, and did all that labor.
You know, potatoes are sort of set and forget, but a big field you still got to keep clean.
And then it was during the Depression and he got something like, you know, pennies on the dollar for all the labor and input and tools he used for it.
And shortly after that, he went east to work construction.
I think for the Civilian Conservation Corps or the Works Project Projects Administration.
So my grandfather's frustration out in the potato fields literally drove him to New Jersey and to work construction.
Cautionary tale there.
Functional stuff.
It sounds like you got a major operation there, Kami, but this time of year, it's spring.
Obviously, the audience is all over the world, not just the country.
I suspect the majority of our audience is probably Midwest, U.S. South, Northeast.
Basically, most of our audience is American.
So what are you working on now?
And what are your favorite things?
You know, early in the planting season, what do you got going on?
Sorry for the long windup.
Okay.
Well, no, that's fine.
I'm actually able to grow year-round where I'm at.
And I don't mind saying I live in East Central Alabama.
And even though we have really cold winters, I have created this method of creating little miniature hotbeds by combining nitrogen and carbon that enables my barassicas, my cabbage and cauliflower broccoli to not die.
I create just enough heat that the roots don't die when we have a freeze, but it's not hot enough to kill them.
So I get to garden year-round, which is really exciting.
But as far as annuals and springtime planting, I will not put my tomatoes and peppers that I have already started.
I will not put those in the ground until after Easter because that's just a rule that you don't put your tomatoes and peppers out until after Easter, regardless of when it falls.
And that's a fickle date to choose too, as a rule of thumb, given when the full moon is.
Yeah, because my mom always said never before Mother's Day.
But that was in New Jersey, West Virginia.
We got a little more flexibility.
But anyway, yes, that first frost for the rookies in the audience, overeaterness, I think, has probably burned or overconfidence has burned every gardener.
You can get a frost well into May in a lot of parts of the country.
Yes.
So things right now that a person can plant, all of your greens, turnip greens, collard greens, mustard greens, spinach, lettuces, sorrel.
You can, a lot of herbs would do really well right now.
I've already planted my potatoes.
I planted my Irish potatoes in February and they're up really nice, about six inches.
And all of my perennials have come back.
So I go out every day and gather a lot of food from the garden.
But I'm really looking forward to after Easter.
I will plant my tomato plants and pepper plants that I started from seed.
And then I will put out seed for corn, cucumbers, squash, watermelon, cantaloupe, all the fun stuff.
Direct sow right into the ground, right?
Yes, yes.
Well, this is having the opposite effect on me, Cammy.
I'm daunted and depressed that you're so far ahead of me.
So I just might as well not try.
Yeah, way to go, Sam.
I'm taking the summer off.
Just kidding, just kidding.
Let's see here.
For the beginners out there, tomatoes, cucumbers, what are some other, you know, the greens will do well, even if you just literally just put some dirt on the ground, protect it and put them in the ground.
But what do you recommend for beginners that are both easy to grow and they can enjoy in a salad or anything else?
Well, my number one recommendation is to plant something that your family enjoys eating.
A lot of times people make the mistake of getting a bunch of exotic seeds and planting a bunch of weird stuff, and then they're left with not really knowing how to prepare it and their family might not like the way it tastes.
So cucumbers, of course, are super easy.
Dill.
Dill comes up with seed.
It's a really easy herb to plant.
I think everything is easy.
I'm not sure that I, okra, you know, you have to wait till it's hot.
Okra likes hot weather, but you can direct seed okra and okra is really, really, really easy to grow.
Things like squash, summer squash, crookneck squash, eggplant, zucchini, all of these things are really, really easy.
You just, you know, put the seed in the ground and pretty much it goes crazy.
Watermelon and cantaloupe are easy to grow.
Yeah, I don't, I think everything is easy to grow.
I would like to say something.
I would like to say that just for beginners, if there was a beginner and they did not know where to start, I would recommend building an instant no-till garden.
And it is possible that it would be difficult to get these materials, but I will share how I've done it and how I've encouraged others to do it in the past.
A no-till garden is you go outside and you find a place where there's full sun or partial shade if you want to plant things that do well in partial shade, but mostly for your annuals, you're going to want full sun.
So you find a place that has full sun and you could go to your local grocery store or Dollar Tree, Dollar General, and ask if you can have their cardboard.
And if you ask nicely and with a smile, they are more than likely going to be like, you know, we stock on Tuesday and you're welcome to the cardboard.
You know, you can come pick it up.
So get as much cardboard as you possibly can.
And wood chips are a really good thing to have.
most places have a local website where you can sign up with having wood chips delivered to your home.
Wood chips are really, really, really excellent for gardening.
Newspaper, newspaper is a really, really good thing to have leaves.
If you can get manure, that is absolutely wonderful.
So to build a no-till instant garden, you don't have to cut the grass or anything.
You actually want to leave the grass, leave everything.
You would put your manure, if you're able to get manure, on top of the grass.
And then you would put your cardboard down on top of that, several layers, three or four layers of cardboard.
And then on top of that, you would put your wood chips.
Now you can't, a seed isn't going to sprout without dirt.
And plants also need to be planted in soil.
So you would buy a couple of bags of soil unless you're able to get that somewhere.
And you would make little divots in your wood chips, you know, like a bowl shape and put your soil and plant into that.
And this is what's going to happen.
The cardboard, the manure, the wood chips, the manure on the ground, it's all going to start to break down.
It's going to prevent the sun, obviously, from shining on that grass underneath.
So it's all going to die.
And their roots are going to decompose.
And those roots decomposing in the ground is going to allow for air.
So it's going to kind of aerate.
And the cardboard is going to create a moisture barrier and that's going to attract worms.
Because if you think about it, if you go outside and find a big rock or something that's been laying on the ground and you pick it up underneath, there's going to be grubs and worms.
And it's just going to be full of life.
Possibly as well.
So be careful.
Sorry, I had to.
Okay.
Go ahead, Kevin.
So the cardboard creates a moisture barrier that attracts the worms.
And as the worms come up, they are going to, you know, wiggle through the ground and break it up.
And so you can plant your plants directly into this instant garden.
And all of these other things are going to be going on in the meantime.
So by next season, that ground and the earth underneath is going to have been worked.
It's going to be full of worms and microbes.
And we want worms and microbes because their waste is actually mineral rich and that's what feeds the roots of our plants.
So it's much better to create soil on top of an area because like building your own garden, that's going to allow for nature to work the ground underneath.
You're not going to have any weeds because the cardboard is going to take care of that.
And then the next year you have this wonderful, lovely black soil.
But you can create this instant garden and plant your seeds in it by making the little bowl-shaped impressions, depressions, and plant your seeds into your little, you know, like couple cups of soil in each little spot.
And you can also plant your plants that way.
And if you want, you can actually dig all the way down into the ground for your established plants and just plant them in the ground and then pull everything back around them.
So that's a way to build an instant garden if you have access to composted materials, cardboard, wood chips, leaves, things like that.
And it's really exciting and you don't have to worry about, you don't have to worry about weeds.
And with this whole water thing, you water that really, really, really well.
And if you're using straw, wood chips, that's really going to hold on to moisture and you're not going to have to worry about watering weekly.
That is a wonderfully concise, practical way and inexpensive as well for somebody to start off and do it better than just dumping soil in a box and planning into that.
So thank you very much for that.
Most important question on my mind.
Everything around here gets decimated by deer or chicken.
Up at the house used to be safe because the deer wouldn't be so bold as to get really close to the house so I could do unprotected gardening here.
But do you have to put up chicken wire around it or the long sort of skinny wires to keep deer out?
What do you do to keep pests and animals out?
Okay, so I do not have experience in that area.
I actually plant enough to share with the wildlife.
I've been very strategic in my placement of different things in my food forest to where the deer don't really come that far into my yard because there's plenty to eat around the perimeter.
But if I was in a situation where deer were coming into my yard and I had a very small garden and I wanted all of that for myself, I would probably use like fishing line and create X's all around and maybe put little flags hanging down or maybe soda pop cans hanging off of it to deter them because I've read, I do not know this to be true.
Like I said, I do not have experience in trying to keep wildlife away from my gardens, but I've read that fishing line because they can't see it, it scares them to death and it keeps them away because they run into it, but they don't see it.
So it's very frightening.
And I've also heard old timers say to hang bars of Irish Spring soap.
They put it in like pantyhose and tie it to trees, tie it all around that.
That smell is very off-putting to wildlife.
And again, I'm not sure.
I keep the Indians away too.
I don't have experience with this, but I have definitely heard the old folks talk about that.
Sure.
Yeah, I see everything around here.
And I've done not everything, but chicken wire will keep my chickens out.
I've even used, I found a roll of the like orange plastic stuff that you'll see almost on the side of a ski slope or on a construction site, almost like retaining, and that has kept the deer out.
It's ugly as hell, but it was, you know, cheap.
So yeah, it depends on where you are, of course, and good on you.
It's like when you see farmers with a giant field full of corn and the deer are, you know, munching at the edges, the farmer probably just thinks, yes, I've built that into my model that there's going to be some loss to wildlife.
Serious question.
I'm not so much of an expert that I've ever been able to tell.
I buy my garden soil at Walmart or garden center probably for two decades now.
Do you have any bias against the, I think Walmart's brand is called Expert Gardener or something versus the Miracle Grow for people getting started?
Obviously, free is better if you can get a truck to come and dump dirt or you find a natural source.
But when you're going to the store to buy mulch or soil, any strong opinions there?
I do not have any opinions.
I don't have any experience with buying soil.
So I would recommend maybe going to the forest if there's a wooded area and just pulling back the leaves and getting that wonderful, beautiful black soil that's right there underneath the leaf cover.
I'm getting discouraged again, Sam.
She's too good.
I'm so sorry.
I'm a Walmart cuck for going to buy some garden soil.
No, I know there's a lot of stuff out here.
Well, but I'll put myself in the shoes of a lot of listeners probably.
And they're like, look, there's the ideal and then the practical.
Yes, of course.
Yes.
Whenever, if a person listens to this and they're like, oh, I want to build a no-till garden.
I'm going to go to the local stable and get a bunch of horse manure.
There is a problem that it's really horrible.
There's a product called grazon that farmers spray on their hayfields to rid the hay fields of weeds.
And then this hay is fed to horses and cows.
And then people take this manure from these animals that have eaten this hay that was grown in a field that had been sprayed with grazon, and they incorporate that into their gardens.
And then their barassicas, their nightshades, their potatoes, tomatoes, they just don't grow.
And the reason for that is this chemical stays in the manure for up to five years.
So you have to compost that manure at least five years before you can use it and it not kill your vegetables.
So it's really, really, really important if a person is going to be using manure from livestock to be sure that the animals were fed hay that had not been sprayed.
Can you spray Roundup on the hay and would that kill the no, sorry?
I'm guessing, yeah, I'm guessing Cammy does not spray Roundup in her yard to kill anything.
No, and mentioning Roundup.
Yeah, mentioning Roundup, I would like to say a lot of people do.
They find their spot where they want their garden.
They spray Roundup to kill all the grass and the weeds.
And then they till up that garden and they plant their stuff and they put chemical fertilizer.
And I can tell you from experience that those vegetables, while they are delicious and look beautiful, do not have the same mineral content and do not have the robust flavor of vegetables that are grown in soil that hasn't been just killed.
Because when you spray that Roundup, it kills everything.
And then when you till the ground, you're again chopping up and killing things.
And then when you put your plants or your seeds and then use chemical fertilizer, yes, that nitrogen boost might make your tomatoes get really big, might make your leafy greens be a vibrant green, but it's killing the microbes in the soil.
So the microbes and the worms that are creating this mineral-rich environment to feed your plants, it's non-existent.
So you might get a big, beautiful vegetable, but the flavor and the nutrients, it's not going to be the same as growing in a more natural method.
Absolutely.
Yep.
I think maybe the first year we were here, I used Roundup or one of the generics to kill just the weeds in the walkway around the house, that sort of thing.
And then I realized that it's also close to our well.
And whether I'm not hugely paranoid or concerned about that, but I was like, you know what?
That's going to eventually seep down into our drinking water.
Well, so I don't do that.
So now instead I relieve myself outside on the weeds.
And especially in summer when it's hot and sunny, that will actually kill them too.
And a natural insecticide or a pesticide.
Yeah, pesticide.
Herbicide.
That's what I was going for.
One of my surprises, Cami, is that I have been planting tomatoes in the same raised beds for the past three or four years.
And I'll usually supplement and dump a bag or two of garden soil in there and mix it up really good.
There's probably enough seeds in there over the years that it would actually sprout on its own without me having to put seedlings in.
But is rotation something that is essential?
Clearly, it's not essential because I keep getting tomatoes, but do you rotate your tomatoes and cucumber spots?
Or do you occasionally just say, they're happy there.
I can do it again this planting season?
Okay, so I do not rotate.
However, I do not garden in rows.
I incorporate a gardening philosophy called polyculture.
I would like to explain what a food forest is because that ties into the way that I garden in my garden beds, if that's okay.
I was going to tell Sam to mute himself while he's keyboarding there.
Shameless.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes, by all means, Cammie, please.
This is a masterclass.
Really appreciate it.
Go for it.
Okay, so if you think about the forest, there's trees and there's shrubs and there's vines and there's a ground cover and there's roots.
And a food forest, an edible food forest, you incorporate that same design.
You have fruiting or nutting trees.
You have bushes, your berry bushes, blueberries, nanking cherry.
You have your vines, your grapevines.
You have your ground cover, which is normally various edible herbs, all perennial.
A food forest, everything growing is perennial.
And then you have your root crops, which I have Egyptian walking onions and elephant garlic and wild carrots.
So in the forest, a lot of times there isn't blight.
When I walk in my woods, there's wild muscadines growing everywhere.
And then when people, you know, put one grapevine in their front yard, those grapes are often decimated by Japanese beetles or something.
But you'll notice in the woods, everything grows quite well.
And the reason for that, when you have, you know, your trees and then your shrubs, your vines, your ground cover, your roots, these different plants attract different insects.
And then these insects feed off of one another.
And so the actual living organisms, the plants, they never get decimated.
And so when you bring that concept into your garden, so you can build a food forest and just have all of these wonderful things growing.
Everything you have planted is a perennial.
This food forest will feed your family and also feed any wildlife that comes up to it.
When you take these same principles over into your garden, so in my gardens, I mentioned earlier, I have 50 different medicinal herbs.
They're not in rows.
They're just everywhere.
I have garlic planted everywhere.
I have leeks everywhere.
I have Egyptian walking onions everywhere.
I have asparagus here and there.
I have strawberries everywhere.
And all of these things are perennials.
Like I've planted them one time and they come back year after year.
Now, what I have to do instead of propagating is like clean out and pull up and make space to plant annuals.
But that's exactly what I do.
So I might have a tomato plant and beside it, there's wormwood and stinging nettle and oregano and anise hyssop and some peppermint.
So polyculture is when you have, it's a little bit different from companion planting.
Companion planting is a thing.
You know, there are certain, you know, you can have your tomato and some basil and you know things that kind of go together in little clumps.
But polyculture is more of just having everything everywhere.
And that works beautifully because again, all of these different plants attract different insects.
And then those insects end up eating each other.
And so your plants do not get decimated.
And it's really wonderful how that works.
So it's variety and not being so particular of, you know, having a row of this, a row of that.
Of course, I do plant my okra in rows and I plant my corn in rows, but I throw all kinds of seeds in between just so that other things can come up so that, you know, there can be a ecosystem of diversity.
Diversity in the garden is good.
Diversity is key when it comes to gardening.
It's so lovely to hear a quote unquote right-wing woman be such a granola hippie when it comes to the garden and growing crops.
It's really wonderful.
I am desire to visit Cammy's homestead and hire her as a consultant is increasing.
Just to have it true.
No, this is, yeah, this is something you can get out there and get some hard work.
And yeah, my in-laws are going to be visiting soon.
And I know my father-in-law is going to get on me if I don't have things going.
So, hey, motivation is important.
And as my wife said, she was like, there's no way you're not growing tomatoes and cucumbers this year.
I said, you're right.
There's no, that would be absolutely absolute shirking.
I have to, Sam, do you have something there?
No, I was just, you know, that.
And everybody, not only everybody can do this, but everybody should do it.
You know, and in my first year, I grew four different lettuces, you know, that you can then put on your salad and things like that.
So definitely everyone go and do something.
Maybe you don't, you don't get very ambitious in your first attempt, but do something.
You can do it.
Yeah, lettuces in particular.
Containers.
Yeah.
Oh, I just, I just said, yes, everyone can do it.
You can plant in containers, even if you live in an apartment.
You can have a few buckets on your balcony.
You can have herbs growing on your window seals.
Everyone can grow something.
And we should.
We should.
Yeah, I think it's like in our people psyche to do it, you know.
Very likely that the vast majority of our ancestors were agricultural.
They weren't all building skyscrapers and inventing things or being lawyers.
Edibles and plants.
Herbs are great or in pots.
Herbs are great in pots.
Tomatoes can be done in pots.
What else?
What other edibles?
I guess you could do lettuces out of pots too, but what edibles like being in pots best?
Well, it's not a matter of an edible enjoying being in a pot.
It is having a pot the correct size with the right amount of soil, watering it at correct intervals and having it in a location where it's getting enough sun.
You can plant squash and watermelon in containers as long as there's space for the vines to go up.
You can plant absolutely anything in containers and you can utilize vertical growing.
Like let's say that you were able to go to a feed store, a co-op and purchase a cattle panel.
That cattle panels are 16 foot long, four foot high.
Well, you can figure out a way to have that vertical and have your pots up against it.
And then your squash, your cucumbers, everything could grow up.
So and that that's a great way of saving space if you don't want your squash and watermelon and cantaloupe, you know, vining out all around 10 foot in every direction.
So yeah, you just have to, you know, just think about it.
And you can absolutely plant anything in a container.
You can plant potatoes in containers.
You can plant anything in a container.
Very, very true.
Is it safe to say that you do not put anything in the garden store when it comes to fertilizer or insecticide?
That is correct.
So all of the, I grow a lot of comfrey.
I have a couple of thousand comfrey plants.
And comfrey, there's two different types of comfrey.
One is just called true comfrey and it spreads via seeds.
And then there's a comfrey that's called Russian Blocking 14 and it only spreads via root cuttings.
But Comfrey is an incredible plant.
It has been used for livestock feed.
It's 24% protein.
It is full of a lot of wonderful things.
It is a nitrogen fixer.
So I have comfrey in every one of my garden beds.
I have it everywhere and I just chop and drop it.
That means I just cut it and let it fall onto the ground.
And that's the way that I fertilize my garden.
I have comfrey planted around all of my fruit trees.
I have comfrey everywhere and just chop and drop.
I don't, I've never fertilized anything because the plants that I grow, they work together and they fertilize for me.
And you can do that with a lot of, you can do that with a lot of other things.
That's something really important I feel about gardening and also when you're gardening in raised beds or containers.
If you can imagine a drone flying over your raised bed garden and it's taking pictures, I should not be able to see any soil.
Like the ground should always be covered.
Every square inch of ground should always have a covering to protect the soil, to retain moisture.
And so once you get your established annuals, like let's say that your pepper plants, your tomato plants, your cucumbers, your squash, you should get a packet of mustard seed.
Mustard is excellent and just sprinkle that everywhere.
So the mustard is going to come up.
It's going to create a ground cover.
It's going to provide shade on the ground so the ground's not going to dry out.
And if you have mulch already around all of your plants, then that's just, you know, extra for retaining water, but you can just chop that mustard and just chop and drop.
Let it fall to the ground.
It will, it will nourish the ground.
And a wonderful thing about mustard, mustard greens, is it's a natural vermifuge.
And so it actually emits a grass in your soil and will kill any bad pathogens that might cause a funky fungus or something.
So there's lots of things that can be ground covers, but it's just a really good idea with gardening, whether it's containers, raised bed, in the ground, wherever.
Just keep in mind from a bird's eye view, a bird should not be able to see one spot of soil when it comes to your garden.
Everything should be covered.
And it's okay.
If it's a garden and you're actually walking on the mustard or comfrey or you know, some other kind of ground cover, that's fine.
But that's perfectly fine.
It's not going to hurt anything.
Have your walkways in your gardens be green.
I am such a city slicker dilettante Johnny come lately, Sam.
Vermifuge and comfy comfrey.
I'd never even heard of.
I'm making notes here for myself.
You better too for the non-slackers in the audience.
Now, Cammy, you sound so in sympathico with nature and all of the green living creatures on your property.
There's got to be something invasive that you hate.
Like for me, it's creeping Charlie and it may be known as something else to someone else, but just that green vine that seems to always find its way all over everywhere and is very difficult for me to pull up effectively.
You know, crabgrass you can get if you get the roots, dandelions, not so bad, but the creeping vines on the ground always drive me crazy.
And please don't tell me you don't have anything because you've taken care of all that already.
Well, okay, I don't have anything, but the reason, well, here's the thing.
I plant comfrey.
I have what's called a soft border.
Like all of my gardens, I started them with manure, cardboard, and wood chips.
And then I plant comfrey around as a soft border.
Comfrey has such an extensive root system, it's not going to let anything creep into my garden.
And with all of the herbs, a lot of herbs are spread like crazy.
Oregano spreads, mint spreads, mugwort spreads, yarrow spreads.
So a lot of times I have to actually go into my garden and put down cardboard and wood chips on top of beautiful, beautiful food, just to give me space to maybe do something else if I don't always have to pull all of that up.
So utilizing cardboard, the idea is to not ever have a problem, to be, you know, to be forward thinking.
And so if I notice that, you know, some grass is somewhere and I don't want it there, I just, I put some cardboard on top of it and some wood chips on top of that.
And it takes care of it.
And I'm able to get cardboard at my local, my local feed store.
I actually grow a lot of food for my livestock, but I do supplement.
I buy Timothy pellets and some non-GMO feed at the local feed store.
And they save me when the pallets of feed come in.
There's the palette and then a really thick piece of cardboard that is cut to fit the palette.
And then the feed is stacked on top of that.
So they save all those squares of cardboard for me.
And I pick them up once a week.
So I'm always able to like reinforce my edges and things with cardboard because I have a continuous supply.
And it would be easy for any of y'all to get a continuous supply just networking and making contacts with people in your community.
It's like the white equivalent of the crackhead hanging out looking for copper at the junkyard or something.
Sorry.
Minor but serious question, Kami, do you only get the brown non-dyed cardboard or do you not care if it's got some some of that coloration?
Like the cardboard at Costco is almost like plastic sheened versus the generic brown stuff.
So all of the cardboard is just regular cardboard.
Sometimes there is writing on it in like red or blue ink, but it's not toxic.
The ink that's used on cardboard is not toxic to the garden.
Okay.
Good to know.
Let me see here.
I had one.
Is there, this may be a dumb question.
Is there a gardening book that you really like?
Obviously, you've thrown out words I've never even heard, despite some experience.
And a lot of times people will have 10 or 15 books that sit on the shelf and they just do their thing.
But anything, any reading you would recommend for the audience?
Yes, yes.
Actually, I mentioned I had my first garden in Minnesota.
And while living there, I lived on an apple orchard and I had all these apples and my mother canned.
But again, you know, I stayed away from all of that.
So my mom sent me a book because I told her, mom, I want to can these apples.
I want to make apple butter.
I want to make apple jelly.
I'm going to have a garden.
She sent me a book written by a friend of hers that has since passed away.
But the name of the book is the Encyclopedia of Country Living.
And the author is Carla Emery.
And that book goes over everything.
And, you know, again, my dad was a big hunter and he was constantly skinning deer and my mom was processing that meat.
And I didn't participate in any of that.
So the first time I butchered a goat, the first time I butchered a sheep, the first time I butchered a pig, I simply opened up my encyclopedia of country living and followed the directions.
The first time I made soap, the first time I made cheese, the first, when I got my bees, when I got my first cows, the encyclopedia of country living has been my go-to because of my lack of paying attention when I was a child.
I'm looking up at my bookshelf right above me, Vegetable Garden Bible, The Self-Sufficient Life and How to Love It, The Fruit and Vegetable Bible, Rodale's Organic Gardening, The Backyard Homestead, so easy to preserve, food storage, and the field guide to mushrooms.
And Sam, let's not tell Cammie that there's a lot of dust on them.
It was probably in the COVID years, you know, buying them, friends left a couple.
There was this whole spirit and upswell of energy into it.
And hey, the thrill has faded a little bit for me, sad to say, and Cami is reinvigorating it, for me for sure, hopefully for the audience.
Yep, that's why we need to talk about it.
You know we, as a word of encouragement um, since I y'all are Christians um, we should be good stewards of the earth, and the um, and gardening and building soil is is helping.
You know it's, it's making the land that we live on better rather than using up all the resources we are giving back.
When we garden correctly and um, and build up our soil and allow for microbes and worms and and all of these things to work together, we're actually being a good steward of the earth for the glory of God, and so that should be motivation enough for us to grow delicious, wonderful food for our family.
And also, as Christians, I feel that um, having a garden, having a garden growing food, it we can have faith in our paycheck.
You know our paycheck is gonna, you know, go buy groceries, but whenever we're actually growing food, we're dependent on God to bless us and to bless what we're growing.
So I also think that should be motivation for us to grow food, just to strengthen our dependence on the heavenly Father Amen, yeah and uh I.
I can't help but throw in this uh verse here, Matthew, chapter 15, verse 13, every plant which my heavenly father hath not planted shall be rooted up, and I don't think he's talking about plants there.
You know, another important aspect of Cami's hard work out in the garden is that it enables her husband to just kick it all day playing video games and ordering dominoes.
The farm, the farm is my um, like I.
I raise the animals, I take care of all the livestock and all the gardening, but my husband works a full-time job and he pastures a church and he spends quality time with um, our daughter and myself.
So yeah, he is very busy um, but I, I enjoy, I enjoy managing um my farm.
Amazing uh, I had.
My notes are all over the page here.
Pardon me for a second.
Oh, um.
So before the show Cami, just not knowing how good you were, I came up with my top 10 lessons or things to consider that i've learned from my haphazard efforts here.
Now you i'll, i'll go first and you can think of any, you know, bullet points.
That doesn't have to be 10 or whatever.
This is all over the place, but maybe a little bit of help for the audience from Johnny come lately here, uh.
Number one is to take the sun into consideration before planting something.
The first year here we had a nice uh, fenced off area that I thought ah, that'll be perfect, that'll keep the deer out, and I started planting things there without looking up because it was early spring, the leaves weren't out, massive sycamore over it and that garden was shaded the entire summer and I got actually some green.
You know, it was just dumb luck that I planted some greens in there, along with Things, but it was largely a failure because I didn't consider the sun.
So, in general, you know, you want to have big success.
Some things like shade, but take a look up and realize what kind of sun it's going to get throughout the day.
And surprisingly, I can grow some good tomatoes here, even with full leaf cover and just early morning, maybe until noon, them getting good sun.
Number two is don't overwater, don't underwater.
Duh.
And my guidepost is if the soil looks cracked and gray and like desert-ish, then I water it.
But if it still looks nice and black and the plants look like they're healthy, you can always tell a plant will sort of give you a tell when it's weeping or it looks like it's sad, then it desperately needs water.
Number three, just spending, just going out and spending an hour walking around and looking at things, poking around, putzing around, as I call it, getting a weed here or there, saying, ah, that needs some help, is probably great for your blood pressure and probably great for those plants.
If I've planted a few things really far from the house, and aside from the deer killing them all, it's sort of like out of sight, out of mind.
I've found that the closer something is to the house, the more likely I am to pay attention to it and work on it.
Number four, I treat seedlings like little babies.
I don't talk to them, but I do.
I'm very tender with them and try to, you know, give them a nice, warm, cozy, enriching environment in which to grow, sort of like how we think about our children.
Not sure this is probably not true for Cami or the pros, but I've found that if we leave for a week in the middle of the summer to go here, there, the beach, whatever, coming back, I have been utterly depressed to see things that got eaten or things that dried out way too quickly and died or were withering.
The first time I planted potatoes, no deer were coming around.
No deer, no deer.
We left for a week, came back, and they had eaten almost every leaf off of every planting.
They did come back, but that sucked.
Plant what you love to look at and to eat.
So I'm not anti-flower.
Flowers are beautiful, the bees, et cetera.
But don't just randomly get something, you know, plant things that you're going to be interested in.
The old know-your-zone adage, and especially your last frost date, you can do sort of those 10, 15-day weather forecasts to say, all right, I think we're finally in the clear, or just go by your mother or your grandmother's old adage for when you don't want to put something in the ground because there's still that risk.
It's a little bit like rolling the dice.
I found that my dog is a great garden helper because she does chase the deer off and has more or less stayed out of the beds, especially now that she's not a puppy.
And my cat doesn't hunt anymore, but she used to.
And nobody likes getting cardinal heads on the porch, which mercifully we don't get anymore.
But, you know, when she was hunting and moles and all sorts of little vermin out there, I was pleased to have the cat then, not so much now.
There's nothing wrong with drinking beer or wine while you're gardening.
Talk about a good time, getting some vitamin D, getting a little buzz-on.
I don't know if Cami agrees with this or not.
Sounds like she takes it pretty seriously, but I love to crack a cold can of Miller Light and go putz in the garden.
And finally, number 10, it is in your blood.
The fruits of your labor is not just a metaphor.
Even I gave the Bugmen Urban Knight City Slickers a tough time at the top.
You know who you are.
But even if you're coding all day and white collar and go to an office, just spend your weekends, even if you're in a condo.
We've talked about the, you know, just having little herb gardens on your porch or balcony or whatnot.
Just do a little bit because despite all the things I rattled off at the top, the challenges, the discouragement, when you grow something yourself, especially for the rookies and the novices, and it actually delivers something that you can eat and enjoy and share and like, you know, hand potatoes out to the UPS man, you're the cock of the walk when you're given free food.
I didn't put too much, you know, I'm sure I'm going to think of 10 or 15 other things after the show, but that was those were the things that first came to mind.
And the chickens are a real new phenomenon here because they love to get in the raised beds and just they're just knocking everything everywhere.
So I have to put little wooden posts in the corners and chicken wire up around to keep them out, especially since they are gravitationally pulled to the house due to me being the bird seed.
And the chicken, that's another thing I've learned recently, separate from the herbal, is that our chickens love bird seed.
And the last time I bought a bag of chicken feed from Tractor Supply and I put it down on the ground, they looked at me like, what the hell is this crap that you're giving us?
We want the good stuff.
So instead, I've just been doing 40 pound bags of the, you know, it's a white bag with red lettering.
It's like wild bird seed.
And it's roughly equivalent to the chicken feed cost and they love it.
And more importantly, we are, we have bumper crop of eggs now again.
One, because they started laying in the coop again with the warmer weather.
And I've noticed zero difference in the eggshell thickness or anything.
And the other cool thing is that the bird seed, whatever's in there, does sprout grass wherever I throw it out for them.
So that has been now.
I'm curious what Cammy thinks about just feeding chickens bird seed as a treat.
Obviously, they're out.
They sleep in the trees now.
They lay in the coop and they're bothering us all day long.
But, you know, chickens, of course, if tomatoes and cucumbers are a great starter for the gardener, then chickens, obviously, I think are great for the aspiring homesteader.
I have lost the desire and thrill to slaughter for meat for numerous reasons, but the eggs are spectacular.
It's a wonderful feeling to have eggs.
So any chicken tips there, Cammy, to spread our horizon.
And then if you want to do anything, we're at an hour perfectly.
So if you want to rattle off any of your principles or tips, and I'll shut up now.
Well, that sounds wonderful, feeding your chickens bird seed.
I'm sure that is delicious to them.
My chickens mostly only get table scraps and things from the garden.
Like I said, I grow a lot of comfrey, so they eat a lot of comfrey and sorrel and mostly just table scraps.
And I keep my chickens in a chicken pen.
I might let them out 30 minutes before they're going to roost in the evenings because I definitely do not want them in my garden.
So yeah, my chickens live in a chicken pen.
I'm constantly taking green stuff to them.
But I thought of three things that I think is important.
Just to keep in mind, birds are a gardener's friend.
And a lot of people think that birds, you know, are going to decimate their fruit trees and this and that.
The reason that birds eat berries and fruit is to get water.
So it's really important to have like a bird bath or buckets of water sitting around.
And then the birds aren't going to mess with your fruit.
But the wonderful thing about birds is they eat insects.
And just like people that have problems with Japanese beetles eating their grapes can put up purple marten houses and purple martens eat Japanese beetles.
And if you, when you live out in the country and you pay attention driving past old home places, you'll see that anytime there was a grapevine, there's always going to be a purple marten house right above it.
So there's all kinds of birds that are so helpful to the garden.
So having bird feeders and bringing in different types of birds into your yard is going to help keep the insects down.
Another thing that will help with insects is having little houses in your raised bed garden in your other gardens where frogs can take shelter because frogs don't like to get really hot.
They like, you know, cool, damp places.
So you can buy like little fairy houses or just upside down cans with a little hole cut out where frogs can go in because having frogs in your garden is absolutely incredible.
They eat lots and lots of insects.
And when it comes to, you know, starting out, you can never plant too much.
And it's really, really easy to get free cuttings for perennial herbs and even vegetables like sun chokes and Egyptian walking onions, elephant garlic.
People are so happy to share cuttings with you so that you can, you know, have these things in your garden and looking on Facebook gardening local groups, Craigslist, even going to the co-op, the feed store, tractor supply, and maybe looking on the bulletin board or even, you know, putting up a piece of paper that says, you know, looking for free herb cuttings.
Yeah, you just plant as much as you can.
Don't be afraid.
Plant as much as you can because again, diversity in the garden is going to make you a lot more successful than just having two or three things.
Yeah.
Amen.
Yeah, I've made a bunch of notes here.
And this is not our first gardening show, too.
So Cammy's bringing some wisdom that has not been on the show before.
Sam, I don't think he'd mind.
He'd probably be pleased if I mentioned it.
But Bellerophon is totally into gardening now.
And he said it was, you know, similar to your story.
He said, oh, yeah, it was totally you guys that got me into it.
He's got all these questions and growing this and that.
So it has worked on some.
I need a shot in the arm.
Some people need to start.
Other people are already pros.
And I would bet a good amount of money that Cammie's giving them some more ammunition for this season.
Yep.
My energy levels have been rejuvenated sincerely since we started.
So Sam wanted to go long tonight.
And I said, no, no, no, no.
Old man coach can't do it.
But I'm willing to do it.
Cammy, you are free to go.
The break music is going to be yours.
I neglected to offer that to you in advance.
So if you want time to think about it after the fact, a crowd pleaser, no, no death metal.
Cammy's covered in tattoos and has pig hair.
It's true.
But I think we should take a break and then we'll come back.
I don't have too much for the second half, but Sam does and we got new white life.
You are more than welcome to stay with them with us, madam.
Or if you want to roll, you're welcome to roll.
But I'm overjoyed and delighted that you came on to join us.
Well, thank you.
I will go, but I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about growing food.
And I wish you all the best success with your gardens this year.
It's been a true pleasure.
And let us know about the break music after the fact if you don't mind, whatever you like.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
God bless you.
I did.
Go ahead.
I was hoping she would stay at least for the new white life so she could hear some of that.
Well, let's do it right now then.
We're breaking with all the rules.
Go ahead, Sam.
You take this one.
Well, it, you know, I really got to say this one, this one, this one took me down.
I mean, not in a bad way.
This one made me sit down and I didn't know if I was laughing or crying, honestly.
Our dear friend regulator, his wife just had the baby.
And it came on the heels of hearing about Lord Wolfshield.
He also, his wife had the baby.
And the two together just really knocked me out as far as the two great victories, you know.
So congratulations to Regulator and his wife.
And I thought I'd mention for, go ahead, Coach.
Oh, I just wanted to say here, here, and back you up, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I wanted to mention Regulator's story a little bit just because we always have new listeners and probably Cami has not heard that story.
But I think that Cammy knows Lord Wolfshield.
Isn't that right, Cammie?
No, I do not.
Well, you know him in the chat, maybe.
Maybe not personally, but you know who he is.
Well, anyways.
Okay.
Well, we're hoping to have him on.
And so I won't go over, but he's a new father.
And the guy does such great work with his movies and his music shows.
I've sat and listened in.
My wife is a little more intimately in that group.
So a great guy.
But with Regulator, Regulator was a guy who contacted the show some years ago and asked Coach for a reference to some local group where he was nearby to help him, you know, get involved in white nationalism.
So Coach gave him a reference.
And we get honestly a lot of contacts like that.
People, they ask for a reference.
We give him a reference.
We don't necessarily ever hear from him again, you know.
But this guy, so a slight diversion from the story, one of our other good friends is a guy named Mike.
Mike is an old skinhead.
I shouldn't say an old skinhead.
He's about my age, but he's an older guy.
And Mike was on a waiting list to get a kidney.
He had failed kidneys.
He was getting dialysis like every third day or fourth day.
For many years, over seven years, he was on a waiting list to get a kidney.
And of course, every nigger in that clinic got a kidney before he did.
But and anyways, we got to know Mike maybe about four years ago or something.
And he was on crutches.
He's diabetic.
You know, he had a bad foot.
We always call him grumpy.
Mike, finally, Mike said, hey, you know, could you guys mention on the show about that, you know, I'm looking for a kidney and maybe, you know, I mean, not that you could ask somebody, hey, you want to donate your kidney, but maybe somebody knows of another program that he could apply to or something like that, because this guy was really just slowly dying.
And so I said, sure, he's a local guy here, local friend of ours.
I said, I'll mention it on the show.
You never know what could happen, right?
So we mentioned it on the show and we get contacted by regulator.
It was a shot in the dark.
And I didn't think it had a snowball's chance.
No, no, I thought maybe somebody would just say like, hey, there's a university over here.
They're doing these type of research.
They're looking for people that maybe to participate.
But no, so regulator steps right up and he wrote a beautiful letter and he said, well, I have a kidney that I think I can part with here.
And we kind of, we didn't know how seriously to take it.
So I started talking to him.
And once I figured out that he was living.
Only feds, only feds volunteer to donate their kidneys for sure.
Yeah.
And so I put him in touch with Mike.
And so they started going through the process.
He had to get blood tested and had to exchange medical information with Mike.
And when you go through something like this, you go through a lot of psychiatric evaluation.
So he had to go, you know, multiple times and meet with a psychiatrist to see if he's, you know, of sound mind.
And we're talking about a man, I think regulator was just turned 21 at this time.
I'm surprised regulator passed those psychological evaluations.
Personally, I probably shouldn't say that.
And then, and coach even then contacted him and said, you know, this is really heroic, what you're doing.
And regulator said, no, when, you know, when I contacted you, I was fat.
I was unemployed.
I was a loser with girls.
And because he got in contact with other national socialists and white nationalists, he completely turned his life around.
He lost weight.
He got in shape.
He got a great job.
I won't say what his job is now, but it's a very honorable blue-collar job, what he's doing.
And, you know, he was all of a sudden he was a hit with the girls, you know, and like his whole life turned around.
And he said, it's like the least I could do is to offer my kidney to this man that he doesn't even know.
I mean, it sounds almost unbelievable, right?
And so, so regulator is the biggest hoaxer.
I know a lot of the details because of Mike himself.
And so, so Mike, they get everything going.
And then, so Mike goes to his clinic and he says, all right, let's go.
I got a donor now and I'm ready to get this kidney transplant.
And then the university, I think it was Northwestern University, they all of a sudden it's like crickets and everyone's looking at each other like, oh, this wasn't supposed to happen.
And somehow miraculously, they find a local kidney for him, like in days.
So wrung it loose.
Mike gets his new kidney.
Regulator doesn't have to give up his kidney, but the whole thing wouldn't have been, wouldn't have happened without the brave man stepping forward and offering it.
Wow.
That's amazing.
And that's even now, this is just a long setup to the real story.
So Mike is like a different man now.
He's he smiles.
He's gone to Germany a few times.
He's, he grew up going to Germany a lot.
He could, it's hard to travel because of dialysis.
And that's another thing, Coach.
We've got to have Mike back on because, you know, he's, he spent about three months in last year in Germany.
He's got a, he, he wanted to share some stuff with us.
But anyways, and so you're like the producer now, Sam.
Rolo is merely the technical guy, the monkey at the keyboard.
And so anyways, then regulator lands this beautiful babe, one of the most beautiful girls you could ever hope to see.
And I hope he doesn't mind me mentioning it.
He did, they did get with child before the marriage, but then they did get married.
And Coach, if you'll remember that the photo with the ultrasound, you know, and she's just, they're radiant, you know?
And so now finally the baby is born.
And it's just, it's, it's just an incredible story.
And I couldn't help but, you know, like I said, I was just laughing and crying at the same time.
Getting a little choked up right now, actually.
But I couldn't also think, I couldn't help but think like of the know-it-alls in the movement and the people who like to divide this movement and cause acrimony.
And, you know, I know what I'm doing.
I know what Full House is doing.
I know what regulator is doing.
I know what Lord Wolfshield is doing.
And it's very effective.
And I would like these troublemakers or know-it-alls to get on our side and start pulling in the same direction that we're pulling.
Here, here, Sam.
Thank you for bringing that back up too, because I always just assume, oh, everybody heard the kidney show and knows the story or whatever, but not necessarily.
And even if they did, and now it's come all the way to the baby being born.
So, what better?
So, I just wanted Cammie to hear that and hear what she had to say, if anything.
Well, that's that's a lovely story, and that's such a blessing.
And it's wonderful to see God work in people's lives.
Yeah, yeah, there's no other way to put it.
There's nothing else you can say, except the whole thing, you know, it's just such an amazing turn of events.
Amen.
And we got some tasteful side boob from the delivery bed, too, from Regulator.
Thank you, which is, yeah, that's the only time it's okay.
It was totally tasteful.
Beautiful wife, beautiful baby, and uh, total Aryan success.
Now, don't get cocky, regulator.
Oh, by the way, spoiler, we're gonna have regulator and shield on together.
Oh, yeah, don't miss that in a week or two.
Also, regulator said that the baby was born what they call end call.
Do you know what that is, uh, Cami?
The uh, where the baby is born with the amniotic sack completely intact.
So, it's a it's rare, but it does happen.
They call it the end call, E-N-C-A-U-L.
I had to look it up, probably a little disturbing for first-time parents.
Yeah, yeah, so all the way around, just a good story.
I hope he kept the sack just as a little memento.
Sorry, I'm terrible commentary to heartfelt gardening and new white life tips, but I feel compelled to.
All right, guys, let's let Cami get out of here.
She's probably got a lot of stuff to do tomorrow.
And again, Cami, thank you so much.
We salute you, and I'll the show will be out tomorrow.
And God bless you and your husband and your daughter and your whole clan down there.
Thank you, thank you very much.
Godspeed.
All right, guys, we will be right back, and the mystery music will be determined ex post facto.
Don't go anywhere.
There's an angel at my feet.
Don't fall asleep to dream.
You can't touch me.
I won't sleep no light in the corner of my mind where it sits and waits for me.
There's a wall of confusion feeling that the sky begins to bleed on me.
Don't fall asleep to dream.
I'm looking for a way out now.
So mind is all I need.
Don't fall asleep to dream.
You can't trust me.
I won't sleep nowhere.
You can't trust me.
I won't sleep no way.
You can't die.
back to full house episode 211 gardening rejuvenation edition uh Hats off, absolutely to Cammie.
I had no idea that she was that good before.
I just took Sam's word for it, literally.
And I figured she was just a good gardener.
You know, one of those ladies who spends a little time out there planting pretty flowers and some tomatoes and things.
And she rivals some of our greats who we've had on in the past, including, of course, Mitt Gartner, Ol Sigis, who did the polyculture episode, and many other Hans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hans with the animals.
I'm leaving out at least one or two.
Of course, Mennonite, whatever he went by.
I'll stop there before I mix up my sock names.
People go by different things, but regardless, really grateful that you came on.
Thank you, Sam.
Serious about you being a producer.
And before I denigrate our technical producer any further, Rolo, I finally by accident figured out how to add your synth wave songs into my Apple music.
And I'm saying this 100% sincerely, not to boost your ego or your confidence.
I put those on fairly regularly: three tracks: Digital Secrets, also Potato's favorite, the Final Storm theme song.
And the title is it Next Time the World or This Time the World?
This Time the World.
This Time the World.
I know that that, of course, next Time the World was George Lincoln.
No, it is.
It is Next Time the World.
Oh, he's next.
You're this.
Regardless, those are.
What about the Full House song?
It's passe.
Yeah.
No.
No, I got, yeah, I got that one saved too, but I don't have that in Apple Music.
You know, they try to keep it a closed ecosystem.
They don't want you to add another wave files.
But go ahead, Sam.
I've already mentioned this, but anytime I've played that CD, I have them on CD.
I'm old school.
Anytime I've been somewhere and I play that CD, people ask me for copies of it.
They ask me what it is, where did I get it?
Every single time.
And I'm talking all spectrum of white nationalists-from skinheads to Nazis to alt-right or whatever type of person you can imagine.
Everybody likes those songs.
Now, Rolo, can we flag that?
Because I would like that CD.
And I bought a different album of yours, but I don't have that one.
Yeah.
Okay.
What do you mean?
Okay.
My comedy album.
Sure.
Yeah.
I was hoping you wouldn't, you know, let people know that my comedy album was out.
You're porno from the 70s.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know.
Anyway, if you have an album of Synthwave tracks, I don't know how I miss that, or you're a bad salesman.
No, no, no, no.
I'm calling it an album or a CD, but it's they're just a bunch of songs and I compiled them.
You burned it.
You burned it onto it.
Okay.
I'm like, damn.
But when I was playing it for people, they thought it was like, oh, where do I get a copy of that CD?
Sure.
I said, well, let me just burn you a copy, I guess.
Some of the other stuff was very good too, but those three are just my personal favorites.
And I'm listening to music all day long at home on the road, picking up the kids.
And those stand up.
Like, I don't listen.
I'm like, oh, there's my charity song for Rolo or, oh, here's my little WN song.
No, they're just damn good songs.
Whether you, you know, the lyrics are inspiring.
Half the time, I don't give a rat's ass about the lyrics in any song.
I just want the jam.
But some of them are the lyrics are, you know, more poignant than others.
Yeah.
And did you, uh, you can answer or not.
Did you get somebody else to guest vocal those?
Or are those?
No, that's no, that's.
Well, I know it's not.
No, I know it's not you.
I thought maybe you did AI.
Okay.
All right.
No, it's not.
That's a real person.
Yep.
Yeah.
Totally impressive.
Hats off.
Yep.
So if I don't know, I've boosted at least a few of them.
Obviously, the Final Storm theme song is on Odyssey, Digital Secrets, and Next Time the World, This Time The World, we have played on the show.
But if there's a way for people to support your music and you want to put that out on the Full House channel, or if it's already on the full Final Storm channel, let me know.
Happy to do that because I'm regularly reminded of what great work that was.
No BS.
Well, maybe.
Well, see, originally it was behind the Odyssey paywall, but Odyssey turned gay.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
Well, Stripe dropped them.
Yeah, like they were.
Stripe was supposedly going to work with Odyssey through its transition.
And then Stripe was like, nah, I've had transition.
Yeah.
Yeah, transition.
Somebody like signs up for Odyssey.
Okay, how do I get monetized?
And Odyssey is like, well, we're between monetizers right now.
We're between money right now.
Yeah.
That's a classic from Wayne's World.
Are you friend or family?
We're neither.
We're between lawyers right now.
Still a great flick.
Rolo, you were deaf and mute.
Well, at least you were mute in the first half.
And Cammy had such a wealth of experience, I didn't want to pop all over the place.
But tell us a little bit about the greenhouse.
Did you do the poles and plastic vinyl?
Did you do wood?
And our greenhouse, it's all wood.
Yes.
So what happened was someone was giving a bunch of doors and panels away.
And then someone I said to someone who does architecture, I said, hey, what could I do with this?
And they said, well, you could make a greenhouse.
And I said, hmm, okay.
Could you draw me up plans?
And they did.
So I'd build a platform and then I put the doors around because they were like doors with the big glass windows.
So it's just like just a bunch of like doors with big glass windows and had the these like, it's like not fiberglass, but it's like some kind of hard plastic roofing.
Uh-huh.
Largely transparent because it's like ridged.
It almost looks like a metal roof, but it's plastic.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Cool.
That's almost exactly what we did.
We had the wooden frame and well, it was a dilapidated, rotting pump house structure when we moved here.
And then Nathaniel Scott blast from the past visited way back in the early days and helped me just take down all that rotten crap wood, left the frame.
And then it was my wife who did the lion's share of the work on the framing.
And I helped her put the put the roof on top.
And yeah, just a wooden box with a plastic, some plastic windows and a plastic roof will do the trick.
Yep.
And that's, and I, I built it.
And yeah, that's, that's it.
Uh, what are you going to put in there, big guy?
Well, um, I put some radishes in there.
I don't know if they'll grow in a greenhouse because not everything can grow in a greenhouse.
You know, I planted some watermelon seeds and avocado tree and pineapple.
See what sticks.
Those are those are called Americados now.
Just sorry.
My mistakes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Radishes are so quick sprouting and easy to grow that it's almost not worth doing them in a greenhouse, in my personal opinion.
After that first half, I don't feel confident in any of my gardening advice anymore.
But yes, and I have transplanted watermelon seeds and it's worked.
But some of that stuff.
No, that was a joke.
Okay.
Okay.
Wasn't sure.
Yeah.
That's why I also said avocado and a pineapple.
Oh, I knew you were joking about those because even in the desert, even in the desert, those are probably not going to.
Yeah.
All right.
Sorry I mentioned it.
Big news here out in the boonies.
The other day I was pussing around as is my want and my phone starts ringing, which always irritates me.
And I see that it's a random number from Pennsylvania.
And I'm like, I'm not answering that.
But then I'm like, let's live a little.
Let's see who it is.
Is it the feds?
Is it Antifa?
Is it a Chinese scammer?
Is it somebody in your premise?
Is it a friend calling from a number saying help?
I don't know.
So I answered it anyway.
It was my internet provider.
And of course, these stupid people, when they call, they're like, hello, Mr. Gebert.
I'm like, I don't know who's asking, you know.
But I forgot that I put my name on a name and number on a waiting list for I saw big coils of fiber optic cabling near my house like six months ago.
And I thought, oh, damn, it's coming.
And then nothing, nothing.
I called in.
Nope, sorry.
Still not available.
And I don't know how that works, how there was fiber optic cable near my house and it took him six months.
But I guess the infrastructure is ready.
And we're getting wired for fiber optic high-speed internet at virtually no additional expense and something like 500 times the speed of the DSL that we've had here for the past five years.
So annoying internet glitches in my voice popping in and out.
The inability to do reliable video streaming.
High speed, it won't take me half an hour to upload a show after we're done.
Just a quality of life issue.
Nobody else really notices that.
And the thought occurred.
I wonder if this is a fruit of Biden's much maligned, you know, a high-speed wireless internet boondoggle that they spent X amount of dollars and they're like, nobody has internet as a result of it.
But maybe, maybe I'm one of the lucky few because somebody was like, They should have just given every they could have literally just paid for Starlink for X million people and save money versus whatever infrastructure whole uh Rube Goldberg setup they had for that bill.
But uh, I thought that was very cool.
It was a random example of answering your phone and being pleased.
The guy tried to upsell me on one gig upload and download speeds.
I said, Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold your horses.
I don't have that many gamers under the house on different devices.
So, uh, supposedly, 500 megs up, 500 megs down for something like 60 to 65 a month.
I was floored.
Yeah.
So, anyway, little, yeah, victory.
Yeah, moving on up in the world.
When you say DSL to me, that means dual seed line.
You know, that's I thought you were gonna say, I thought you were gonna say, you know, what sucking lips.
So, no, I that did not enter my mind.
What is a dual seed line?
Well, this is the Christian identity concept that you had.
Okay, you know, the devil's descendants and God's people, you know.
Yep.
Um, I could uh, the other night I picked up Junior and he was in really good spirits, which was more good spirits than usual.
And I said, What's going on?
What's going on, big guy?
He was bubbly, he was effusive, he was talking.
And then it turns out later that one of the older girls that were at the event that was at the event that he was at said, You know, you've become like the best or second best player on your soccer team.
So, I think that that was totally because he's, you know, he's smart as a whip, but he loves soccer.
We've been watching some of the European champions.
I call it the Champions Cup, and he's like, Dad, it's not a cup, it's just the Champions League or the Champions Tournament, blah, blah, blah.
I don't care.
Um, but it was- We don't even get a cup for winning.
I, I, I don't, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm such a noob, you know.
He called me a boomer.
Why was I a boomer?
Oh, I didn't know this.
I can't even remember why he called you that.
That's why he called you.
Yeah, yeah, I was like, Give me a break.
Yeah, sorry.
I didn't, I haven't paid attention to European club soccer in a long time.
But uh, there's all these uh normie group chats for this or that, all the different functions.
And I had no idea I was renaming them in my phone so that I could track them better, you know, like this kid, this event, this kid, this event.
And then finally, he's like, You know, dad, when you rename those chats, you're renaming them for all of the parents that are on it.
It was like, I was like, Oh, thank God I just named it like junior, um, this practice or junior, this event.
If I had got a little bit stop, I'm not a weirdo.
Exactly.
We're gonna murder this team in July.
Uh, TND, but nobody told me.
Nobody was like, uh, sir, you have renamed the chat for every parent in the chat.
So, we all had a good chuckle, including I did a mea culpa in a multiple group texting.
Sorry, didn't know my son called me a boomer for it.
So, word to the wise, I just figured it changed locally on my device, not in a wide uh structure.
And then I'm just totally shoot from the hip here, guys.
I had literally no prep for the second hour because I was getting credit at the first, but taking the kids to see the Minecraft movie.
Yes, it's true.
Oh, we got three.
Well, we're gonna go this weekend, hopefully.
Um, don't forget, don't forget your chicken tendies and chalky milk.
Yeah, I know.
I never got into Minecraft, but the kids love it.
And when I watch them play, it's just it's a if video games can be productive.
It is all three of them love it.
Supposedly, it's entertaining.
I watched the trailer.
It looked pretty harmless.
But we're actually going to go to a theater for the first time since Twisters 2, whatever that one was called.
Twisters.
About the board game?
Last summer.
Yeah, because my wife loved Twister when she was a kid.
So she's like, we have to go see Twisters.
And it was okay.
So back to the movie theater for Minecraft.
Mr. Pickle saw Minecraft.
He said it was worse than Snow White.
But his son liked it.
So there you go.
Daughter's Bestie said she loved it and we have to go see it.
Yeah, he said he wasn't upset that he saw it because his son liked it.
Okay.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
I mean, if it was all blood and guts and miscegenation, I wouldn't be happy even if my kid liked it.
But if it's relatively harmless and true to the genre, probably, you know, it's got to be one of, if not the greatest selling, greatest longevity video games of all time.
Tetris comes to mind, of course.
But, you know, it holds up.
There's a lot of people in the world.
Indeed.
Go ahead, Tim.
Speaking of soccer game or football, as they call it over there in Europe, or as they call it everywhere else in the world, did you hear about this?
In Germany, there was this team, Kaiser Schlautern, and their team is called the Red Devils.
So they had this satanic thing that they had this gigantic pentagram that everyone in the crowd, you know, held up something to create the shape of it.
And then in Latin, they had people holding these words up in Latin, something like Lucifer, arise, come take our souls.
And then this, I don't, if you watch the video, if you can find it somewhere, this, this huge devil like arises out of the fans.
I don't know what it was made of.
It almost looked like it was a, I don't know how they did it, but it was very bizarre that it was like so explicitly satanic like that.
No.
Yeah, I always get excited when you see the occasional outpourings of white pride or, you know, chauvinism at European soccer matches.
Yeah.
Watching some of these teams like Chelsea from England in the blue shirts were almost straight black.
But on the flip side, this afternoon, I caught a European or sorry, a Norwegian team against an Italian team.
And the Norwegian team was almost entirely white.
They were playing in Norway near the Arctic Circle in April.
So you could see the little houses with snow in the background.
And I totally get it for our burger friends.
Maybe Sam and Rollo think that soccer is a little faggy or whatever.
It certainly requires athleticism and adroitness, etc.
And damn, it was fun to play.
So in the background of the pros, I don't give a rat's ass which team wins.
Junior likes Barcelona and Real Madrid for whatever reason.
But it's one of those sports like hockey where it kind of doesn't stop.
You know, the play continues.
It's not like football or baseball where it's like two seconds of action and then everyone sits around standing around.
Yep.
Yep.
Well, and the game with the most action is basketball and it's the most miserable to watch for the most obvious reason.
Yeah, there's that too.
Yeah.
Basketball can be entertaining, especially when you're watching some of the white boys, the Joker and the Slovene who plays for the Lakers now.
His name escapes me at the moment.
Little tip for the audience.
We talked big money, not last week, but just three or four days ago.
Well, I guess we'll do that real quick.
At first, we had no idea when we recorded the show on Sunday whether Monday was going to be a bloodbath, whether it was going to be up or down, and it was sort of middling.
And then I think Tuesday was a bloodbath.
And then Wednesday, we had the huge surge.
And today it dropped again.
Total churn.
In other words, Trump coming out.
I think that Trump just capitulated and they were like, this is causing too much havoc and it will impact your domestic agenda.
Like you can have your tariff principles.
Personally, a 10% flat tariff against everybody.
And then China still getting taken to the woodshed on their imports.
It's like this, it's the next best thing, right?
That's okay by me.
I don't need 50% tariffs on Lesotho or Madagascar to make me happy.
Not that that was what sent the market into a tizzy.
But you had that massive surge, exciting surge on Wednesday.
Today, down again, recovery toward the end.
Volatility is back.
The market will have what they call those bear market bounces where, oh, yeah, it's down so much.
Everybody buys.
And then the confidence recedes again.
But I went back and looked at the COVID puke at the data just for the S ⁇ P 500.
The little, you know, word to the wise or whatnot.
Things started to drop in January 2020 as those news items started to come out.
You know, little drip drab, horrifying footage from China.
The absolute bottom was March 2020 when the world was ending.
Everyone was going to die.
Trade and commerce is dead.
And then the S ⁇ P had completely recovered to its January level by July.
So call it six months.
It was right back where it started in July.
And again, the one thing I think that I got right was emphasizing that this is literally a market puke based on one man's whims, Trump's, of course, for better or worse, whatever you think about it.
And lo and behold, it took one Trump social post, truth social post, for things to skyrocket one of the biggest gains of all time on Wednesday.
So that's, you know, he could wave his magic wand and make all these problems go away.
As of right now, he sort of cried, you know, he raised the white flag, wave the white flag on the sanctions on everybody except for China.
Everybody's going to get 10% and China's at like 150%.
We're taking it to 1488% on China.
That's obviously the last thing.
But I, you know, and again, take a look when there's a lot of volatility.
That's not for everybody, but you're seeing, and I do the same.
I don't have a daily or a dollar cost averaging on Bitcoin.
I don't buy a little bit of Bitcoin every day.
I have stealed my, you know, when you see a big puke, you're like, oh, that sucks.
I'm just going to have to wait for it to recover.
And like you mentioned, you did the other day, Sam, with your little nibble.
If I see a big puke in there, I'm like, okay, I'm going to go in because eventually I'll be really happy that I bought it here, likely in the long term.
So just pay attention.
Don't be afraid to look at your stuff.
I've done that thing where it was like, well, I'm just not going to look at it for a couple of months and hope it recovers.
When you have that instinct, when you're like, I don't want to look at it, it's too scary.
That's probably the time when you should be, you know, at putting more in.
But I think we covered that pretty thoroughly last time.
And oh, what I was going to mention was just on the micro personal finance side.
Yeah.
I was telling somebody about this who spends a lot of money on gas.
I was like, well, you should just get, assuming you have one near you.
Not all Walmarts have gas stations attached to them.
But Walmart, Walmart Plus, to me, was an easy case.
I think I got it four or five, however long ago, but 10 cents off every gallon of gas, no limit every day.
And that pays for itself.
I think it's $100 a year.
I don't remember what I paid for it back when I got it, but it was on that scale.
And it's cheap.
It's usually the cheapest gas in town too.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So depending on what, you know, if you're doing a lot of driving and you got a Walmart not far from you that has a gas station, I think that that pays for itself.
And I was reminded the other day because I had to get one very specific thing for the house.
And it was either Amazon or Walmart.
And Walmart was like, oh, we can deliver it to you tomorrow.
I was like, what's the, what's the, you know, are they going to put a delivery charge on that?
Or, you know, there's no way the KPS or FedEx could get it to me.
And I'm like, son of a bitch.
The next day, I get a little message and it's like, oh, your driver is like, yeah, he's just coming around the corner.
And it was just a guy in his car and he had a package in it.
And he was like, are you Matt?
And I was like, yeah.
He's like, okay.
And he had to take a picture.
I was like, okay.
I smiled with the package, you know, next to the window because I went to meet him to make his journey into the sticks a little bit easier for him.
And I was like, holy hell, that was awesome.
Like literally the next day, it could have been to my doorstep, but I took the UTV out to meet him.
So long story short, Walmart Plus, you get Paramount Plus for free.
You get 10 cents off of gas.
I do hold Walmart stock.
This is not a conflict of interest.
I just, I like I, the other day, that reminded me, oh, that's a really good product.
And it might be worth it for our guys.
Look, if you don't want to give money to Walmart, totally get it.
Stick to your principles.
But saving money on gas is one of those little things that adds up over a short time.
Of course, you have to spend enough to make it worth it.
Let's see here.
Yeah.
Easter's coming.
We might have a little trip coming up for the Orthodox Christians in my family who may or not be here.
The closest Orthodox church to us is Greek Orthodox in Winchester.
And I've actually been there for a Greek fest before, and it was packed with people, like hundreds of people swarming this lovely Greek fest.
A bunch of our guys went to it too.
It was awesome.
They had beer.
They had all the grilled meats and everything, but it was a hot summer day and it was packed.
So I don't know if we're going to make that journey or there is a nice Catholic church near us.
The kids are not going to want to go.
I do not feel particularly compelled to go, but on something like Christmas or Easter, when I used to be a skunk, like, ah, I'm not going, like, I would be more than happy to get dressed up, go.
But Sam, I was curious what your Easter plans are or if you have any special traditions around it.
I know it's a big deal for you and your family.
Go ahead.
Yeah, mainly attending Mass on that day.
We usually have some kind of nice meal planned where we all participate in its preparation.
I don't know of any firm plans yet.
So my wife probably has something planned there.
But that's really what we do on Easter.
Of course, we've got Palm Sunday coming up here.
That's always fun.
I like to braid the palms.
You probably saw me post my braided palms in the past years.
But yeah.
Growing up, my mom would always have palms that she got from mass and put them behind the crucifix over.
Yep.
And we still got one Easter bunny believer too in this house, too.
So let's not get ahead of ourselves.
We still got some kid joy.
And, you know, the Easter bunny has been a little bit haphazard in past years.
There was one morning where the kids looked out the window to his usual egg dropping ground and said, ah, there's nothing out there.
I said, really?
They said, yeah.
I said, oh, okay.
Let me go down and look around.
And funny enough, an hour or an hour and a half later, there were Easter eggs everywhere.
So we explained to the kids that the Easter bunny is kind of like a retarded version of Santa Claus.
There's no professionalism to it.
We do the family does expect the Easter baskets, which I prepare for people, which just means, you know, selecting some different types of candy and stuff to put in there.
So that is a tradition.
They like when I hide them, I'll hide them around the house or the property.
But there's a good Latin Mass over there, Coach.
You remember when I visited you?
I went over there.
I'm trying to remember the name of the town.
It was about 45 minutes away.
It was probably Winchester, too.
Winchester.
I was thinking Manchester.
I knew that was wrong.
Yeah, Winchester.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Winchester is like the big city.
Like, oh, we got to get the horses in the carriage together to go to Winchester.
That's where Costco is and all this stuff, which Winchester, the first time I was there, sometime in the aughts, I was like, oh, you know, getting out of Northern Virginia.
I was like, what a charming, true Virginia city.
They have a nice historic downtown there.
And in the ensuing decade or two, it is, well, it was probably crawling with strip malls and, you know, corporate chains and stuff then, but Hispanic Central.
Yeah, just overwhelming everywhere you go.
They're all over the place.
And that's kind of Western Virginia, near the border with West Virginia.
So it's always a little bit disconcerting.
But yeah, that's where we venture when we need stuff.
Yeah, everything is good here.
And, you know, we're just slogging through school and Easter coming and sports.
Yeah.
And I am gardening.
Gardening.
Yeah.
We got rain nonstop almost through Saturday.
So Sunday is my day.
And, you know, the reality is I'm going to go to Walmart and I'm going to get some gardening soil and some potting soil.
The greenhouse is not a mess.
I just stored a lot of tools and tomato cages in there over the winter to keep it from getting snowed and rained on.
And all I'm going to do is I'm going to get out my little, I have a seed binder.
I should probably get new seeds.
Some of them are pretty old, but get out the seed binder and all the envelopes full of tomato seeds.
And I just boop, boop, boop, little pots all around the border of the greenhouse.
Usually sometimes I just do Sharpie on the wood right underneath them just to make sure I know, all right, this is the tomatoes, this is the peppers, et cetera, and pop those seeds in there.
And it's always nerve-wracking when it's been a couple of days and you're like, nothing is happening.
Hello.
Is anybody working there?
And, you know, you get some duds sometimes, but more or less, it works out.
And then, you know, then you, and they're in the greenhouse, which I have when I get a frost warning, I'm like, I'm just going to put a damn heater in there and set it to the lowest setting because I don't know how well it retains heat necessarily.
And then, you know, sometime around Mother's Day, just get out there and pop them in the ground and try to protect them.
That's, that's my whole system.
And potatoes can come, you know, more or less whenever.
Could probably put them in the ground now.
But that's that's more work.
So, nothing to it but to do it exactly.
Yeah, we're continuing to get the really cold weather, the really cold mornings.
I put the lemon tree out there and I walk by him in the morning.
I say, How are you doing, old boy?
So far, it's hanging in there.
You know, I think it's big enough that it oh, you gambled keeping it out there on a frostballing night.
You're gonna be sad if that thing dies, Sam.
Well, yeah, I would be.
I would be.
It's my sons, really.
And uh, but it's it's it's with the even though it's cold in the morning, the afternoons are really nice.
The sun is really warm and direct, and it's in the 40s or something like that, but it's the sun feels nice and warm.
So, I'm hoping we'll hang in there for a couple more weeks.
Yeah, I dragged all the plants out because we had nice warm weather, and now they're all back in the house now because I've I've gotten cocky or made that mistake, at least with the with the giant rubber leaf ficus named Hercules that you know, my wife drove back across the country from Los Angeles because her employer at the time didn't want it.
That's sentimental to me, and I have it's gotten frostburned twice and completely died back.
You know, just it was massive, and just I had to cut everything off and just left it on the deck and prayed.
I didn't pray, cross my fingers, and then it did.
So, it's it's a tiny little Lazarus ficus Hercules plant now, sentimentality for sure.
Yep, yep, Rolo.
Yeah, so Rolo still has a girlfriend.
Uh, Regulator and Wolf Shield are new first-time fathers.
Yeah, um, no necessary calamities have struck the uh birth panel or our extended uh friends and family so far as we know.
So, all things considered, things are looking up.
Knock on wood, disaster is around the corner for sure.
Worry about that stuff.
All right, let's uh get out of here, gents, unless Sam or Rolo, you got anything else you want to hit up?
I'm good.
All right, Rolo, too quiet this week.
Are you on like vacation or you angry at me?
Never can tell with bees, or is he on tranquilizers?
Bees, that's a Winnie the Pooh reference.
I know, it's before your time, I think.
You're the president of China, you never can tell with bees, yeah.
Boy, yeah, okay.
Oh, you what are the chances you had a Winnie the Pooh book right next to your studio?
The Winnie the Pooh book, the complete tale.
I don't know, uh, that's a little weird.
You a big Winnie the Pooh fan?
Yeah, you not delightful fun.
I like the cartoons when I was a kid for sure.
Christopher Robin and the gang, all right, fam.
Uh, let's get out of here.
I'll toss Cammie had the break music.
Sam Rolo, if you've got a banger, uh, feel free to post a couple suggestions in the chat and we'll go with that because I got nothing that I particularly want to force into anybody's ears.
Uh, we love you, fam.
We might take a break next week for Easter and Associated Travels, but at the latest, we will be back with Wolf Shield and Regulator to a real bread and butter, first-time dads, all that good feel, anxiety, joys, etc.
So, we'll do it up.
We'll do it up properly and get out there and plant some stuff.