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One of the best measures of a man, in my opinion, is whether he can advocate for his specific faith without coming off as a pushy, pious, arrogant ass, and if he can debate or disagree over religion with his racial brethren without insulting them, dooming them to eternal damnation, or reminding them of how bloody and divisive this core component of our identities has proven over millennia.
Our very own Sam comes to mind first in this regard.
Religion aside, we can hopefully all agree that making the most of our precious, fleeting time in this realm is another great measure of a man.
By living boldly, creating more than consuming, remaining true to our ideals in the face of adversity, and building a legacy of great deeds, lifelong friends, and children perhaps better than ourselves.
Our special guest this week personifies all of the above, but presents a bit of a good interview problem.
We could discuss religion, a life of adventure, fatherhood, and steadfast commitment to our people in equal measure for an hour each easily.
But there's only so many minutes in the hour of this humble podcast, so we will do our best to elicit the best from a wonderful guest this week.
So, Mr. Producer, let's roll.
Welcome, everyone,
to Full House, the world's biggest tent podcast for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole bio fam.
I am your fully healthy but still susceptible to the twin tentresses of sloth and cynicism host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours plus of a damn good shoestring operation broadcast into the teeth of censorship and hostility.
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And also huge thanks to our comrade Pat, who helped make this connection and make this episode possible.
And with that, let's get on with the show.
First up, when informed of our guest this week, he exploded in righteous rage, exclaiming, damn him, damn you, coach, and damn this show to hell in all eternity.
Yet he is still here with us regardless.
Sam, welcome on.
No, actually.
Actually, I'm really looking forward to this.
You know, the thing is, in Christianity, we have this rationale of natural law.
And a lot of argumentation will even be made in the name of natural law.
The way I look at it, you know, people with different views of different things can come down on the right side of right and wrong just based on that alone.
So I think we will have a good discussion.
Damn straight.
And I like to think, you know, if Jesus Christ is the top dog up there, that he would at least be understanding of those of us who are not necessarily faithful in that regard, but yet still try to live our lives virtuously, honestly, and are not just cynically against religion or whatnot.
All right, Sam, welcome.
Thank you.
Sorry, I had to raise you a little bit there.
And I did give our special guest a little advanced intelligence about your faith and Rolo's as well.
Next up, he could fill the role of an extra or maybe even a leading man in any Viking historical drama, and yet he proudly settles for the mere Germanic rebellious spirit of Martin Luther.
Rolo, welcome back.
It's good to be here.
And true stories.
I mean, that was a compliment.
You really could.
Oh, I thought you were telling them about the Broadway play that I was at with the off-Broadway play, where I was Martin Luther when I turned down one of the roles of the show, Vikings, to do it.
Anyway, yes.
Our guest is rolling his eyes.
He's like, Am I on the show?
Or are these guys just going to talk for a whole hour?
Welcome back, Rolo.
Thank you.
I was trying to be nice and give you a compliment.
Rolo is my whipping voice, sir.
And finally, our very special and honored and patient guest.
He is, in no particular order, a proud Texan, U.S. Army veteran, husband and father, globe-spanning mercenary journalist, human rights and white rights activist, founder of a neo-religion, and I mean that respectfully, author, speaker, mensa member, current Californian, because I had to throw one pejorative in there, and now able to add full house veteran to his curriculum vitae Mr. Stephen McNellen.
Welcome to Full House, sir.
Thank you very much.
It is a pleasure already, I can tell for the last two minutes to be here.
Very good.
I hope I didn't lay it on too thick there.
I think you deserve it.
Everything to excess.
We do this at the top of every show, sir, to smoke out any imposters among our first-time guests.
So we're going to subject you to the same, please.
Your ethnicity, your religion, and your fatherhood status.
I am a white man who follows the traditions of Ausa True or the Germanic paganism.
I have two children who are both grown up and adult, and I'm the old man sort of doddering around on the edges.
Very good.
No grandkids yet, sir?
Oh, well, yes, I've got, let's see, I got a couple.
Yeah.
Oh, there you go.
I showed your picture to my family before we recorded, excuse me.
And I said, he looks like he could be a really, you know, he's an in-shape Santa Claus, you know, with that white beard.
I admit that respectfully too.
You know, if you ever need a side hustle around Christmas, you could probably pull it off anyway.
And your ethnicity, sir, obviously you're at least partially Irish.
Anything else there in the mix?
Irish, English, and German pretty much top off all my majors.
My mother comes from an English background.
My father, his folks are up from Northern Ireland and have been very bad boys and disliked by the system.
And I, of course, we're quite into our ancestors.
And I have a special feeling for a grandmother that I never actually met because she died when my father was about three years old.
And her name, well, you know, we would say Gertrude, but we usually say words like Gertrude with sort of a sneer.
I remember, you know, my kids in school say, Gertrude, really?
But of course, it's Gertruth.
Gertruth, and it means spear mighty.
So I like to think I've got, I got some kick-ass ancestry there.
I think you do, sir, and I like your pronunciation of it far better for sure.
Yeah, as I alluded to in the opener, we got a delightful challenge on our hands, where to focus our time.
We've got your life stories, Wotanism, and no less important, your latest book, The Spear, which I have in my hands, autographed by you.
And it's available at runestone.org.
More about that later.
But because we are ostensibly the dad show of our cause, could you give us a little insight, please, sir, about perhaps young McNellen before you became a holy man of sorts.
Anything from your upbringing that you credit for the fire that still clearly burns within you?
Well, I was never a part of crowd.
I was that bookish guy in junior high and high school who was politically involved sending letters to strange addresses in Miami during a certain period in history and who wanted to join the army and do crazy stuff if he couldn't go to space.
I mean, that was me, basically.
And you think it was more, that was your inborn nature as opposed to the nurture that your parents provided?
You know, I got some, quote, conservative environment from my father, who hated the Democrats and, you know, ended up voting for Kennedy anyway.
But mostly, mostly, as strange as this may sound, I feel that some of us, or most of us, maybe even, I can't judge on that, are born into the times we need to be born into.
And forgive me for sounding pompous.
I don't mean this, but I feel I was born, as many others were, to fight these battles.
We're here for a reason.
And I have thrown away the scabbard and I am as happy as I can be to be here doing this.
Amen.
And your journey, you actually have a pretty, it seems factual and not too slanderous, your Wikipedia article.
You gave me some background.
But, you know, as I understand it, you read a Viking novel in college, and that kind of was an epiphany for you.
Changed your life.
You want to recommend the book to our listeners?
And what happened there, please?
Well, you know, it's crazy.
I was taking a summer semester because I had apparently screwed up in one course or another.
Gods only know which one.
And, you know, it was a nice day and I was living in the dorm and I read copiously anyway, usually science fiction when I could get it or any good adventure story or anything like that.
So I got restless and I didn't have a car.
So I walked over to a little mom-and-pop grocery like they used to have.
You know, not part of a chain, but a little mom-and-pop.
And as so many of those institutions had, it had a corner filled with secondhand books.
And I was like, hey, maybe I can find some more Robert E. Howard, you know, and so I'm over here and I'm going through stuff and I'll get the dust off of this one.
Oh, man, who stacked these things?
Dude, they're not even sorted.
What's this?
What's this?
Oh, dude, what's this guy?
He's got a sword and a funny looking helmet called The Viking by Edison Marshall.
Well, it's not Conan, but I guess it'll do.
And I took it back and actually, Edison Marshall was a novel writer of some repute back in the 50s.
And this is a book that had survived that period.
And it was set in the time of the conversion from Christianity, from heathendom to Christianity.
And it gave, I thought, a fairly well-balanced description of both rationales.
And it was a good novel and idealistic and all that good stuff.
And the main character in the book persisted with the old religion.
But the important thing to me was just the dichotomy that was presented.
And I had been sort of a fallen away Catholic anyway.
And I had been reading weird and magical and mystical sorts of things in college.
And so it was total BS, but that's a whole other story.
But I was struck by the worldview of Teutonic society.
And I thought, damn, this is for me.
This strikes a chord strongly, powerfully.
See, I was at that point in my life and in my college endeavors where as an ROTC student, I would be in a couple of years, or I don't remember, let's say one or two years from the date in question, I would be going into the military.
And because I was idealistic and gung-ho, I wanted to join special forces and go and fight commies.
Sure.
Okay, pretty idealistic view.
And obviously I would look back on that with different eyes at this point in my life.
But I was young, dumb, and full of it.
And it was perhaps a logical thing that I would be attracted to this Viking-esque, ultra-manly kind of scenario.
So that was the beginning.
And yes, it was a naive beginning.
Yes, it wasn't quite infantile, but it was playing to all my male energies.
Whatever works, if it's a simple novel that changes your life and sets you on a good path, whatever the hell it is.
Good for it.
So that got me launched.
And then I tried to learn what I could.
But the college I went to was pretty not large, shall we say.
And that went for the library as well.
So I go over and I'm trying to find any textual stuff on the Viking age or their beliefs or their principles.
They had one.
I say again, one copy of the Edda.
And a couple of sagas.
And that was about it.
So it was a long learning curve, but I did my best to approach this in a scholarly way rather than just reacting with my over-testosterone inclinations.
And the rest is history.
Sure.
And I assume you were doing ROTC, not just because you had the warrior ethos, but that was helping to pay for college.
And then, of course, the deal is then you're put in as a, you know, probably a second lieutenant officer when you get out.
But as I understand it, you quickly grew disillusioned with the military and perhaps had your racial awakening.
You already had that spiritual and ancestral awakening underway.
But did something happen in the military to wake you up racially, or was it a process, just the whole long slog?
Well, several different things.
I was an idealist.
And when an idealist has his reality punctured with the thorns of opposition, sometimes the deflation comes.
And I go into the army.
I went straight from ranger school to being the exo of a headquarters company in a support command in Germany.
I had volunteered for Vietnam, but it was late in the war and they weren't taking any fresh meat that week.
And in retrospect, in retrospect, I look back at how little I knew, and that just that probably saved my ass.
The life expectancy of a second lieutenant infantry at that part of the war towards the end when the fragging was going on and all that stuff was estimated to be 16 minutes under fire.
Those poor bastards being the last ones to die for a losing war in Vietnam.
Absolutely.
Yeah, sad, very sad, infuriating, actually.
So here I am.
I'm sitting at this desk pushing papers and stuff like that and totally getting disillusioned.
But Germany was awesome.
You know, I loved the chance to get around and do things like that.
I took advantage of everything to get away from the desk that I possibly could.
I learned to qualify, I qualified on all of the German weapons.
I got my German parachutist wings.
That was fun.
That was a kick in the butt.
And, you know, stuff like that.
And got some travel time in, all while continuing my spiritual interests and trying to expand them through a newsletter that I had some friends publishing backstateside.
So the continuity had been unbroken, basically.
I was, you know, several years by now had passed, but I was still carrying that torch.
But I knew so little.
I knew so little.
I was motivated much more by romanticism and idealism than by anything scholarly.
And so it went.
And so it went.
Fair enough.
Slightly personal question, but I wanted to do it close to the top here.
Your wife is quite on board.
I watched your speech from Amran this year.
Of course, it was a delight to all of your co-religionists that you called on a favor from on high and lightning and thunder struck at a certain point in your speech.
But it was awesome.
You got a tough question from the audience, and then your wife was in the audience and she helped answer.
I'm just curious, did you convert her in a sense, or was she already a fellow traveler in terms of both of your religious faiths?
No, I brought her around.
She's a good, good, a good Irish Catholic girl that she is.
And I ruined it all.
Well, actually, I mean, I think either one of us could have been inclined towards the Celtic ways, but no, the Nordic, Germanic aspect of my ancestry won out very strongly.
And Sheila is actually very, very active in the cause.
She's a person of high repute in the Ostatru Folk Assembly, which is the name of the organization that I founded.
And in fact, even as I speak, she is probably downstairs on one of her many meetings.
She has numerous meetings a day.
She works very hard and just coming along lovely.
Lucky man.
Blessed man.
It's absolutely an asset to have a wife who is not just on board, but also involved and hardworking.
And you give credit to her for helping a lot with the spear as well.
One more perhaps touchy or tough question.
Last week we had on a lifelong German National Socialist who really opened up and explained how a lot of his life has been painful, especially with regard to his family relations as a result of his rock-ribbed ideology.
Has your faith and your prominence proven tough with your family, with your kids?
Did they ever rebel against you?
Or more smooth sailing for you, I hope?
Well, my kids just think I'm weird.
Yeah, they don't think I'm evil.
The hardest on that end of the issue was my relationship with my parents, you know, who were good, good Catholics.
And I mean, hell, it was me, being a Norse pagan by whatever name you want to call that is considerably worse than being a Baptist.
And in small town, Texas, small town, Texas, it was this eternal feud between the local Baptists and the local Catholics.
And, you know, as a child, okay, got time for an anecdote?
Of course.
I thought you might.
How about it?
I was very young.
I mean, very young, God.
I don't know, obviously preschool.
I had gone with my parents over to Fort Worth, where my grandparents lived.
And I guess I had become upset at something the adults were doing.
And I retreated in anger under the dinner table.
And I don't know the reason for that, but I remember mother saying, you get out from under there, Stevie, Stevie, get out from under that table.
And I said, I will not.
I'm going to have to swear.
I said, okay.
That's okay.
You got to pass.
I'm going to be a goddamn Baptist and go straight to hell, which is obviously something I had heard around my house.
I'll show you, mom.
And, you know, I don't think it's necessary to say that I harbored no anger towards Baptists.
But apparently at that time in my life, I had been told some not very nice things about Baptists.
It was actually quite a feud in my hometown.
There was one Baptist preacher who, you know, basically saying we ought to burn down all those churches with the crucifix on top and so forth.
But, you know, painful reminder.
I don't carry that stuff with me.
You know, you just can't carry that stuff.
Now, your parents didn't disavow you for your new faith.
Were they just deeply disappointed in you?
Yeah, they were.
Yeah, they were.
I'm sure they prayed a lot for me.
And I'm sorry that that happened.
I'm sorry they were hurt, obviously, but I did what I had to do.
Yep.
Our lives would be a lot simpler if we just shut up and went to work and didn't rock the boat, but that is not what our lives are about.
We've got to live boldly.
And certainly mine.
Indeed.
All right.
Well, Mr. McNellin, a couple secret squirrels came out of the woodwork to say, I heard you're having McNellin on.
He's awesome.
You don't know this.
You don't know this.
And they did enlighten me about quite a few stories from your background.
So I got to ask at least a couple here.
I don't know what order I'm going to go, but let's do the, I called it mercenary globe trotting reporting.
You were a reporter for Soldier of Fortune.
I guess you were teaching school teacher during the year.
And then summers, you would travel the world to report from hotspots.
Take that wherever you want.
Give us some meat.
Okay.
That's basically true.
I was a school teacher who, as you put it, when I wasn't school teaching, I was freelancing, actually.
I was never on staff, but I would go to unusual places, places where you can't drink the water and report.
And this was usually connected with my own ideological principles.
I spent some time in South Africa.
I tried to get into Angola from Katima Mulilo across the line to Angola to interview Jonas Savimbi back when the Cubans were running a monk through Angola.
I went up to Dharm Salah in India, interviewed Tibetans who had fought against the Chinese back in the day.
At the end of the interview session, I am told that about half of the guys I interviewed asked the translators, is this guy really a journalist?
Are we going to do it again?
And, you know, I hope when it's my turn to die, I would prefer that it be in defense of my folk.
If I can't do that, I wouldn't mind dying, ambushing Chinese convoys on the Xinjiang Highway.
Lock and load, baby.
And riding a rock and roll.
Amen.
And you were in Bosnia too.
Now, fair warning, my wife is a Serb, so I'm a partisan on that conflict, at least ideologically.
But what was your impression or experience from conflict in the Balkans?
It was, a lot of emotion ended up in this one.
I had flown when I was not able to get into Angola.
I, you know, I'm flying out of Johannesburg, coming back to the States, and I realized I'm not ready to come home yet.
And on that long, long, long flight from Joburg up to Amsterdam, I changed my mind and I got off the plane, forfeited the rest of my ticket, bought, of course, it was summer down in South Africa.
It was cold as heck up in Europe.
And so here I am dressed very lightly, out on the streets, buying things like combat boots and fatigues and anything to stay warm with.
And I caught some transportation and ended up, you know, ended up in Tomislavgrad.
And I get off the bus and what I gotten in Croatia was a piece of paper saying, basically, hook this guy up with XYZ, blah, blah, blah.
And I got to thinking, what if this paper just says, take this guy out behind a building?
Right.
He's out, you know.
So I get off the bus.
I hand this and this piece of paper to a guy all in uniform and beard and who spoke no English.
And of course, I spoke not a paragraph of their language.
And he motioned to me to follow him.
And I think, well, where is this going to end up?
You know, we walk down and it's snowing.
It was down through the snow there.
And I see a building down there a few hundred yards away.
And this side of it, I see a guy I knew from California, Fred, Fred the Merck.
Fred Verdine, who was a remarkable man with his horrible issues.
But we were close friends.
We were close friends.
And by now, I looked like hell, but because I'd been traveling rough for weeks and weeks and weeks.
I was heavily bearded.
I was a mess.
And so here I am with my street-bought jackets on.
And here is Fred, Fred impeccable.
Fred, tall, good looking, with his beret at just the right angle because that was Fred.
And he's talking with a couple of guys there.
And like I say, I'm unrecognizable by now.
And I'm walking past him.
And I look up and I make eye contact and I say, hi, Fred.
And his response is not suitable for your program.
Fair enough.
So, so Fred the Merck, as I call him in some of my journalisms, Fred the Merck and Dave the Rhodesian, which was his sidekick.
We knocked around.
There was nothing of consequence going on there.
I don't know if it was bogged down for weather reasons.
Probably not.
Maybe it was political stuff, whatever the reason.
I mean, I was issued full kit.
I carried a rifle.
I knew what to do if I was in a vehicle and bad things started happening.
But I was never shot at.
I got to, you know, it's just, it was just very strange.
It was surreal.
Surreal is probably the best word.
And we went very strange places and did interesting things.
Amazing.
Someday, sometime I'll tell you about the disco at the end of the universe.
Probably not.
Probably not on this show.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
You got to save some content for other shows or perhaps coming back on this one.
Go ahead.
Pour yourself a stiff one there, Teetotal.
Have a little fun with us.
Yeah.
If I come back later, I'll tell you about the disco at the end of the universe.
And why?
Why we needed another vehicle other than the vehicle that we had.
And there was one from the United Nations.
And oh, well, never mind.
All right.
It's a deal.
Jared Taylor referenced this in introducing you for your speech at Amarin.
But you certainly, I guess, you were still in the National Guard in California during the LA riots in 92, I believe it was.
Did you have to get physically active there or were you just on patrols?
Just ran patrols.
I was, let's see, I was a, how did I, I had gotten out, I'd gotten out of the military and swore I would never again wear green stand in line or call anybody, sir.
And then I got, you know, I got to hankering it.
I loved it.
I loved being in the infantry.
I loved being with the kind of men who are soldiers.
And at that point, let's see, I guess I was the platoon sergeant, which was the funnest thing I ever did in the military was being a platoon sergeant.
Like being an officer just sucks, especially if you're pushing papers and nobody thinks you know anything.
But yes, I did stand on the corner of Hollywood and Vine with a loaded M16.
We were just doing routine patrols, you know, and you know, making a show on the turf.
Um, it was a very interesting time as well.
Um, and uh, yeah, all right, yeah, yeah, no, no dramatic stories except to say that we bivouacked uh on the Hollywood Bowl.
You know, we pull up, our bus pulls up, and we're in front of the Hollywood Bowl and say, Okay, go get all your gear, put it on the stage.
So, I mean, we needed a poster, you know, it says, Yeah, Delta Company plays the Hollywood Bowl, you know, but alas, whatever.
Thank you for indulging my uh curiosity about a couple of these stories.
And of course, we are we are going to here slowly pivot to the book and to the faith.
Uh, another source told me that you had uh a sort of epiphany when you were actually in commune or at least hanging out with Native Americans, American Indians, and when I guess they were pretty hospitable to you, and they were about to engage in a religious ceremony that you wanted to go through with.
And they said, Not so fast, not so fast, you know, pale skin.
This is for us, not you.
Does that ring a bell?
Well, it's it's it's the story is familiar, but I was not the individual involved.
This is this is from my book on Alsa True.
And I, uh, I was making the point for an ethnic basis of religious belief or belief in general.
And the person to whom that happened was a friend of mine who had gone to a powwow.
And of course, the Indians, they do all the dances and the law, you know, they do all of this and all of that and show off the beads and show off the feathers.
And then when it's time to do Indian stuff, they send all the round eyes home.
And they were very polite about it.
They said to my friend, Well, I'm glad you liked it here.
I'm glad you had a good time, but we're going to do Indian things now.
And I'm asking you to leave.
And he said, Did I do something wrong?
I said, No, not at all.
It's just, this is our stuff, and it's special to us.
And that was, I guess, confirmation of my own belief that there's an innate tendency in spiritual beliefs by race.
I mean, I think we could certainly look at aspects of Christianity that are completely parallel to our beliefs, you know, the Alsa true beliefs.
We all believe in, you know, loyalty, honor, and, you know, that we could run a list of virtues.
And this particular notion came to the attention of a man named Vine Deloria, who was an American Indian.
I think he was of the Standing Rock Sioux.
And his whole tenet is that, yeah, religion is ethnic.
I mean, it's racially based.
And everybody has theirs, and you need to respect the other guys.
And he wrote me a very nice letter, and he said something to the effect of, I hope that more people read your book because then we won't have so many round eyes.
He didn't say round eyes.
He said non-Indians trying to come to our sweat lodges.
It wasn't hostile towards white people.
It wasn't hostile towards Christians.
It was just saying, I wish they quit trying to copy our stuff, you know.
Sure.
And members of the wannabe tribe, right?
What's good for them?
Also good for us.
You have a sort of humility and mutual respect for other ethnicities and races, heaven forbid, that shows through in your writing.
And yeah, it's far past time for us to claim the rights and privileges as you've been fighting for them.
Go ahead.
I got a very nice email very early on in the game.
It must have been just a little bit after I came back from the army.
I got an email saying basically thank you for what you're doing.
for your people.
That way we will have fewer white people showing up at our, it was something an African-based religion was doing.
I mean, they do a big thing of theirs, you know, and there's no doubt about it to whom it belongs.
And, you know, peace be unto you, you know.
Sure.
Go your way in peace.
One more fascinating aspect of your activism, too, that I have to ask here is this idea.
It's not a crazy idea by any respect, that white men or Caucasian men, white presenting men were present in North America long before Columbus, whether it's the Salutrian hypothesis or this fascinating story I had never heard of, and I guarantee most of the audience has not.
But that's Kennebec man up in the Columbia River basin of Columbia.
He gave a lovely speech.
Looked like it was in the 90s.
I didn't see the date in which I'll let you present it.
But essentially, the remains were found of what everyone at the scene assumed was a Caucasian body.
And they didn't know that it was from many thousands of years ago.
And it resulted in a huge fight with the Indians, the government, the body, et cetera.
And you threw yourself into the middle of it.
Anything you want to, the essentials you want to share with the audience about that, and then they can do their homework after the show.
Oh, yeah, the Kennewick band.
That was a major thing.
Occupied a lot of our time for an extended period and justifiably so, I think.
It came out complex.
And to this day, I don't actually know the truth of the situation.
Our belief was at that time, and it is still entirely possible that it is true, that this man was of European descent.
His bone structure and so many other things indicated that that was the case.
And it is obfuscated, to say the least.
The place where he was found was by the Clinton administration.
I should help on the time scale.
Clinton's guys basically dropped tons and tons and tons of rock, soil, and perhaps worst of all, organic material into the area where he had been found, which was going to make it very difficult, perhaps, to analyze anything else that might have come up.
The administration at the time clearly took the Indian side and it was, you know, it was pretty tense there at a time.
We persisted in the fight.
We got a lawyer.
We took it to court.
And everything ended up at a draw, no great forward movement of any kind.
It looked like maybe the, of course, the Wikipedia article is not going to be authoritative, but they, I guess, acknowledge that maybe he was of Ainu origin from Japan, who are particularly white presenting Japanese, you know, maybe journeymen from Europe who made it all the way there.
But yeah, fascinating story I had never heard of that, you know, threw a monkey wrench into a lot of the Native American claims.
It's always been ours.
We've always been here.
You guys arrived 1492.
Well, you know, one thing that impressed me, here's one story I carry away with me.
And it just, my jaw dropped when this happened.
They were transferring the remains from the Kennewick area over to a major laboratory, Battelle, I guess.
Yeah, Battell, where they do or have done all the atomic stuff and all that good things.
And okay, so the Indians are out there and they're doing their dances.
I'm cool with that.
They're doing their dances around.
And Sheila and I went off to one side and gave bloat to Odin in semi-private, at least.
Anybody who was looking could see us over there.
But, you know, we didn't want anybody just hanging out.
And then I'll go back over.
They're pulling together a convoy to head over to Battelle.
And a little white guy comes out of the building and says to the Indian dancers, okay, all you guys that work for me, come on over here.
And like, whiskey tango foxtrot, man.
Yeah, giving the game away.
What can I say?
So I don't know that we ever got to a truth on that.
I did get an admission from one of the lawyers that if the remains had been found in current history of a man who had sailed with Leif Erickson, he would be declared a Native American and would be taken over.
And that's crazy.
That's just crazy.
I don't know.
Indian privilege, such as it were.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for indulging my question.
I had to do that for myself and the audience.
Go ahead, Sam, please.
Yeah.
I had heard some story years ago about the Mandem tribe, M-A-N-D-A-M.
And I was just quickly trying to Google if that had any connection to what you were talking about there.
But do you know about the Mandem tribe?
No, no, I don't.
Well, you could look it up.
They were supposedly very white so-called Indians that give some credence to these theories about Salutrians and stuff like that.
I just happened to see on this website here, worldhistory.us, an enigmatic Welsh Mandem Amerindian tribe.
And he's talking about he's impressed by their white complexions, varying hair color, gray-blue eyes.
And if you look at some of these pictures, you know, some of them look very white.
So I just thought I'd throw that in there and see if you had heard of that, Steve.
I had not, but thanks for letting me know.
You know, history is especially anthropological history, if there is such a term.
It's a lot of question marks, a lot of question marks still.
I mean, Vine DeLoria, I've got a little video set of him sitting on a rock out in the middle of a river, and he's talking about all of this.
And he talks about the red-haired giants.
And his tribe believed in them and other tribes believed in them.
And they're an issue in some areas.
You can go to Lovelock Cave, and that's supposedly where the red-haired giants, the huge white people, lived until they killed them all.
So I don't know.
It is a stack of mysteries.
There's also, again, this is apocryphal evidence.
I can't defend it exactly.
But I have heard that in analyzing the DNA of these what we call Indians, that they find those genetic markers of European type DNA.
And the nature of this type of study is they can identify when that DNA came into that line, right?
And it's way before the Europeans we know about came here.
So that also gives rise to this idea that there were Europeans here.
And just like always, the Mud people, you know, overcome and slaughter the white people.
But not before maybe assimilating some of their DNA.
Yeah, hard to say.
Hard to say.
I don't have the answers on that.
And I know we cannot trust the establishment to actually give us any factual information on that.
I talked with an anthropologist in Nevada who was working on a find over there.
And she reports that this, quote, Indian had a beard.
So again, question mark, question mark, question mark.
Yeah, the Indians didn't have facial hair and not even much body hair either.
And this is one of the things like when Hernan Cortez came to the ancient Aztec empire there in Mexico.
And Montezuma, that was his claim of being descended from gods is he had facial hair, whereas all the other Indians did not.
And so then when all these bearded guys show up, he's like, hey, you know, and that's why he treated them like brothers, but he was kind of confused.
Like, wait, these guys are invaders, but here they are with the beards.
I have a beard.
The way the pictures show him, he had like a goatee and a mustache.
I don't know fully.
But, you know, it does say something anyways.
If a beard is a sign of divinity, then yeah, McNallon's got some divine game going on there, Sam Rolo and me.
Not so much.
Working on it.
Working on it.
All right.
Let's get on.
Really, the core reason we're having you on, aside from everything else that is so fascinating, is the spear.
The existence of my people is not negotiable.
McNallon's eight words.
Excuse me.
One of my favorite lines from the book, our native religion is heroic, stoic, deeply rooted in our history, and it is waiting for you when you are ready, both confident with a bit of humility there too that comes through throughout the manifesto of sorts.
Tell the audience about the book, Mr. McNellon, please, and why they should buy it.
I've written other things, but I really believe that this one is the most important thing I've written in many ways.
But it's very different from my other book, which also true in Native European spirituality is like it sounds.
It covers everything from the mythology, our rituals, our calendar year, and so many other things.
But the spear has an urgency to it.
Frankly, we are approaching tough times.
I don't think anybody can deny that.
And we've got to get down to the essence of things.
I like my eight words.
I mean, with all respect to the folks that have the 14, I think this one, this is succinct.
It's to the no pun intended to the point.
The existence of my people is not negotiable.
And the thing is, as I've pointed out to people who accuse me of being the most racist guy in the whole wide world, I say, well, wait a sec, you know, anybody could legitimately say this.
I mean, you could be black and say the existence of my people is not negotiable.
And so, you know, I ducked that one.
But it's simple, it's straightforward.
It's passionate, and it is non-compromising.
And my cat just wandered into the room.
I'm a shooting cat.
Interesting.
Okay.
She's black.
Just saying.
There you go.
Just saying.
No racist.
As long as you didn't name the cat the way H.P. Lovecraft named his cat.
Not sure if you're familiar with that one.
I didn't.
I know.
Tell me.
Tell me what it is.
He named his cat Nigger.
It's okay.
That's a factual.
That's a factual statement.
We won't get in trouble for that one.
There you go.
You're just reporting, right?
Yeah.
You saw the, I don't know if they were surprising results of the poll I put out on Telegram.
It was a sincere question for our audience.
What is your faith?
Around 50% Christian, perhaps a slightly higher percentage than I expected, about 27% pagan or heathen or Asatruha, Odinist, however you want to call it yourself.
And then, of course, about 20% irreligious.
And then, you know, we got a few Hindus and Muslims and assorted others in the audience, too, whom we still, of course, respect.
The thing that comes to my mind, this show is not to tell Christians that they are wrong and they need to repent and come back home to mama, although I wouldn't be upset if they did that.
Sam might be, is that I think for that 20 or so percentage of people like myself, irreligious, having a faith is a huge life asset, both in terms of satisfaction,
comradeship with your kindred, and perhaps going all in and actually faithfully believing in Odin and the ways and the beliefs of our ancestors to give people who are lacking a faith something that benefits them in all those ways.
I assume that that is a core part of your mission, but a little more from the spirit in that spirit, please, if you would, sir.
Well, I try to direct the spear at anyone who holds our basic racial beliefs.
And obviously, it is a, shall we use the term heathen?
Some take it in a derogatory sense, but it actually derives from a Germanic tongue.
You recall my speech before the Amran conference, in which I made it clear that my speech was not meant in any way to be an attack on Christian beliefs or Christian individuals.
That I was expressing this thing, which is important to me.
I talked about Wotan and I talked about the Wotan archetype.
And I said that as far as I'm concerned, everybody in the audience can take my words either way.
If you are a follower of my faith, great.
But I think the vast majority of you are not.
So if it pleases you, please feel free to think of Wotan as an archetype in the collective unconscious of our race.
And of course, actually, I said, I believe in Wotan slash Odin slash Woden in his, you know, a couple of hundred other names.
But I'm not insistent.
And to me, in this sense, blood is thicker than baptismal water.
You know, I love all my white brothers and sisters, regardless of their faith.
And in no way am I trying to take away from the value of their beliefs.
So, and I think the audience reacted well to that.
The idea of going to an Amrin conference years previously would have been, you know, not a very good thing, at least not if you're going to be speaking.
And I think I've drifted away from your question.
I'm sorry.
No trouble at all.
Speaking of the speech, you had a couple of great lines in there too.
Of course, no race that grovels before those who hate it will survive.
That might not be 100% transcribed correctly, but I love that one.
We are a major inconvenience for the world managers there, too.
Yes.
Do you think there's a way for white people to have a sort of fusion?
This is wandering perhaps into truly heretical territory, but to both have faith in the old gods and in Jesus Christ.
Do you know any pagan Christians, if that makes sense?
You know, I don't, but I don't feel the urgency for it that other people may have, because I have nothing against people with Christian beliefs in the first place.
I'm sorry, say again.
Yeah, what I would say on that is for the Christians, I would say you can look at this type of material as there's something good to be taken from it.
I think especially the mythological stories and things like that can be appreciated for what they are and should be appreciated for what they are.
I think you can remain a Christian with the firm intention, as I do, that we would love to help people become Christians or lead people to Christianity or tell people about it.
But we can certainly appreciate what this stuff is about.
A lot of it will feel very consistent with Christianity.
And like you were saying before, as a youth, you threatened to become a Baptist, stuff like that.
I think in this day and age that we live, it certainly becomes very clear, like, you know, whether it's a fellow comrade or maybe even someone in our own family or something like this, people that are interested in this type of material is not taking that person away like from our moral values, the way I understand it, you know, and in this day and age,
we could live in where your sibling or a friend or someone you know or a child or something is going to become transgendered or be involved in something truly weird.
You know, I think that something like this, you can see like a sort of the similar goodness in it, what we would say is in Christianity.
And that's, that's not to water down the differences.
Are obviously differences in it and a different type of belief in certain things, but there is a certain moral compass, whether it's a white Christian or a white Pagan or something like that uh there's, there's a similar moral compass and there's something that draws our people to these things.
You know, kind of almost unspoken or very subtle things.
Uh, if you go to, for instance, a traditional Catholic mass, it's going to be 95 plus percent white people there, you know.
If you go to a blue bluegrass concert, it's going to be 95 plus people there, you know.
So there's just something inherent about it that uh speaks to our souls.
If you will amen yes I I, I would agree, and in fact I I went down to visit my brother down in Texas uh uh oh, that's been how long?
Year or two back and, like I say, I come from a very Catholic family uh, but the modern day church is just, you know, right to them.
Yeah somebody, somebody following your thing would be way better than like a Catholic following the pope today right, pretty much, and so, and so what?
I suppose you're familiar with the traditional Catholic movement and they've got, you know trap traveling, traveling priests with their altar boys absolutely, and they came down while I was visiting him to to do mass and uh, and it was awesome, we talked for hours and hours and you know no no, no vehemence no oh, you suck, and all your friends, nothing like that it was.
It was.
It was very, very much in agreement on things like morals and values uh, and all the the the, the rock of of our civilization, and I would stand by those guys any day absolutely yeah yeah, I agree, good stuff.
Uh sir, you reference or cite Carl Jung's uh essay on Wotan several times throughout the book.
Obviously he's like the, the anti Anti-freud, brilliant German philosopher psychologist, and perhaps uh went from a sort of theoretical or cultural identity with I prefer to say Odin that rolls off my tongue easier and then perhaps to a literal faith in him later.
Uh share, i'll post the essay uh, in the show notes or link to it.
But uh, if you could share some of the essentials of Carl Jung on Odin please well in uh, in in his manuscript, of course he he, he speaks of Wotan and presumably other deities, as you know, these archetypes and the collective unconscious, and I I kind of, I kind of like Jung's stuff.
I mean, he gave us the collective Unconscious, and Sigmund Freud gave us penis envy, I mean, come on.
But And Jung, of course, kept this idea, I think, for quite a long while of just an archetype.
I'm putting that in quotes.
My quotes, not his.
But the word is, and I've not seen documentation on this, but supposedly Miguel Serrano says that on Jung's last visit down there, he confided that he felt that there was something else going on than just an archetype.
And as far as I'm concerned, people can believe whatever it is they wish to.
Jung's work is still very valuable.
And it's a treasure trove in lots of ways.
Amen.
And you have had some instances in your life where you believe that it was divine intervention from the old gods who essentially saved your ass.
And the rest of me too.
Yes, yes.
Shall I go into story mode now?
Yes.
Sorry.
Yeah, I'm back.
A little bit about Odin himself, please, sir.
I think the majority of the audience sees him as the old one-eyed guy with the long beard and a raven on his shoulder and a spear.
But he's more than just iconography for you.
What's the essential Odin to you?
He is a being who can certainly appear as a human being if he wishes to and step into people's lives and do things.
He is essentially, you know, people think, well, he's the god of war and battle.
Well, no, really, the essence of him is wisdom.
His name derives from a proto-Germanic or whatever, whatever word, Wolvanaz, which basically means, if I'm getting it right, just in individuated consciousness.
He is a God of consciousness and of wisdom.
That's what he's all about.
Anything else he does is to emphasize that or to utilize that.
For a war god, you can go to Tyr or even Thor.
And Odin certainly participates, but he participates in a very high level.
In the sagas, the Norsemen would throw the spear over the enemy host before the start of the battle and shout something like, I give you to Woltan or I give you to Odin.
Basically, you guys are just meat.
You're sacrifices, dude.
You know, that kind of a thing.
Toast.
Yeah, you're toast, only worse.
So, yeah.
And he's the wisdom guy.
He's the wisdom guy.
And I like to think, I hope he's up there doing some good things for us because we need all the wisdom we can get our hands on.
That's right.
I've got him on my hoodie right now.
Long before I knew anything about this stuff, I just thought it was cool.
So I have a sons of Odin hoodie on that I got years ago when I was first starting to get racially awakened because I identified it.
I said, man, you know, Christianity never really hit or stuck for me.
And at minimum, I like the iconography and the ethos of it.
And, you know, I've shared I'm still a little bit hung up, you know, those stubborn, we kind of live in cynical times, right?
So the idea that I'm going to faithfully believe in Odin and he's going to help me is still a stretch for me.
But I kind of want to get there.
And Sam does such a damn good job of advocating for Christianity with humility and respect and knowledge that he pulls me in that direction too.
So I suspect a lot of our audience are stuck in that difficult situation.
I can understand that.
Yeah, I was going to say, I've had strange things happen.
And I guess probably everybody can have that.
I mean, certainly Christians have, quote, strange things happen too.
So, you know, I don't know.
Maybe there's a whole crowd of deities running around out there.
Or maybe it's like a frequency you tune into.
I don't know.
And really, you know, to me, it's only a theoretical question because I've got a life to live.
Well, let's take, first of all, before telling you a story about the one-eyed one, let me tell you a story about one of his primary tools, so to speak, and that is the runes.
Well, yeah, but it's so much more than that because each one of those symbols has a specific meaning in a specific context.
And its actual use for writing is absolutely secondary.
But they can be used for divination.
And normally I don't do divination.
I mean, I figure what's going to happen is going to happen.
You know, and I'm not an intelligence officer, so I don't really need to know a lot of things, maybe.
But I had a question.
I had a question to put before the gods.
All sorts of things were going on in my life, all sorts of pressures and hassles and one thing or another.
And that cat is still rubbing up against me, trying to get some petting.
Sorry.
Sorry.
You're a good girl.
You're a good girl.
Okay.
Okay.
Took care of that, didn't I?
Well, took the 24 runes of what we call the elder Futhark, which is the older version of the runes, so the runic alphabet, so to speak.
Put them in a leather bag.
They were on pieces of wood that were basically indistinguishable from one from another.
I randomized them very carefully.
I reached in, blind, pulled one out.
Okay.
It was the rune we call Perthrow.
Okay.
Next day, same thing.
24 runes.
Carefully randomized.
I want to emphasize that.
Shook, Reached in.
And there's no tactile differences between them is kind of where I was going with texture and everything.
And Perthrow.
This happened three times in a row with the most careful, all the steps I could take for it to be the real deal.
And not, you know, I'm not kidding myself.
I'm not kidding myself.
And I calculated the odds of drawing the three out of 24, the same one, three times in a row to be, it was in the, it was in the millions.
I think it's like 7 million or something like that.
I don't know.
It was hella high.
And so I packed up my stuff and went to South Africa.
Yep.
Message received.
Yeah.
And I later, from a person who did not know of this particular incident, I got the word from them that, well, this particular rune is what you draw if you're not supposed to know the answer.
So sometimes you just have to roll them dice and rock and roll, baby.
There you go.
Yeah, I've been to a few AFA events and I've seen the ruins and the things and it's fascinating to me.
It's like watching an alien culture almost if you're not well versed.
It's like, wow, what is going on here?
I'm equal parts curious and totally ignorant of it.
I want to be respectful of your time, sir.
Really grateful to have you on.
I just got a couple more here, if you don't mind.
Well, okay, you can have those, or you can have the one of how I became invisible in Africa.
We're milking you.
All right.
But before I'll, we'll tease that one for the audience because I think it was another divine intervention.
But we've got to ask about the Wotan Network.
Well, no, I want to be respectful of the book and your efforts too, the Wotan Network.
I could listen to your stories all day, but the Wotan Network seems to be a more activist-oriented.
It's separate from AFA.
I presume that you are more or less the head of it.
But tell the audience, please, about the Wotan Network.
Wotan Network is separate from the AFA, although there's plenty of AAFA people in it, and we are absolutely friendly to the AFA.
This is just Steve's thing.
Wotan Network, I think I use terms like a networked insurgency or something like that.
It's meant to be activism of a particular type.
And basically, the spear is, well, our field manual in so many ways.
And there's loads and loads of stuff in there on what people can do in order to participate in Wotan Network.
One particularly popular event is to climb a mountain or a hill, if that's all you've got, climb to the top, with or without friends, pour a horn of mead or a glass of whatever you've got, offer it up to the high one with some form of ritual with emphasis.
No, just not, hey, here's to you, Odin, but you know, I mean, really think it through, pour it out.
And that is that is an offering.
And I believe, and I think, in fact, I suspect I get some agreement on this, that spirituality shapes culture and culture shapes politics.
So I like working high up on the end there because spirituality is easier to do in many respects.
So that's a Wotan on the Peaks event, but we do lots of other things.
You may find runes scrawled on dust on the side of a truck.
You might find runes carefully laid out by sticks on a trail in the forest.
You might find leaflets.
You might find cards.
This is kind of where we're working at right now, which is why I've got a Wotan Network activity channel over on Telegram and people can go there.
When I made my parachute jump for my 75th birthday, I did a Wotan on the drop zone.
Cool.
Good stuff.
Yeah, I'll link that in the show notes too, so the audience has access to all this.
And please, by all means, regale us with your invisibility cloak in South Africa that saved your ass and the rest of you.
Most yes, but I was more worried about the rest of me.
I understand they do very strange things with human testicles and things.
Oh boy.
I don't know.
Okay.
I was trying to get to South Africa where I was going to make the arrangements to get up to Katima as previously described and get into Angola.
It was one of those things.
And so I've got a South African passport on me concealed in a bag around my neck because bad things happen to people who got stopped by customs people in South Africa in those days, apartheid still being very much a thing then.
So I had my passport tucked away and everything is going fine.
I was a little spooked because a couple of weeks previously, a young lad had been caught on a plane somewhere in Africa.
They found military gear, South African military gear on him or in his stuff, and they shot him on the runway.
So if I could, real quick, now were you concerned?
I don't understand how having a South African passport in South Africa would have been problematic for this.
Oh, I wasn't.
Oh, I wasn't in South Africa.
I was crossing into it.
Gotcha.
My bad.
My bad.
Not at all.
I landed in a neighboring country and it only dawned on me.
And actually, it dawned on me while I was a long story.
I hitchhiked most of the way through the Sahara and then in Agadez, I got on a plane and thought, what the hell?
I'll just fly into Cotonou, which is a little place right next to South Africa.
And then on the flight, I realized, oh, crap, I don't have a visa for this country.
They're going to look at my stuff real carefully.
If they shake me down, they'll find the South African visa and bad things could happen, he said, understating it.
So I'm working up my working up my plan, you know.
Okay, plane's still in the air.
We landed 15 minutes.
What am I going to do?
Okay.
I'll play dumb.
I'll say, I've got a line.
I mean, look, I'm young.
Michner just published his stupid book about students traveling all around the world.
And so I'll just, I'll just say, dude, dude, this is Marrakesh.
Stoner, California act.
Yeah, really.
So, so plane lands.
We're getting off.
It's a bright, sunny day.
Nothing to hide behind.
Clear runway, a line running straight out to a guy with an AK over his shoulder, very carefully looking at everybody's papers.
Oh my dude, where is Marrakesh?
It gets closer and closer and closer and closer.
And I think there's nowhere to run, really.
I mean, he's armed.
He's got buddies all over this place.
This is not looking good.
Takes the paper from the guy in front of me, looks at it, hands it back to him.
It's bright daylight.
He looks through me.
I say again, he is literally a foot, two feet from me.
He reaches behind, he goes behind me and takes a passport from the guy behind.
I did not correct his mistake.
And I basically got out of Dodge.
I am.
I got to the other end of the country over there going into South Africa.
And here's this sort of neat guy.
He's not got an AK over his shoulder and he's not wearing fatigues.
He is in his dress unit, not a dress uniform, but his more formal uniform.
And he's looking at my papers and he goes through my stuff.
He says, you have no visa for this country.
And I just give him a vacant stare and shrug my shoulders.
And he gives me a big ebony and ivory smile, hands it back to me.
I did not correct this mistake.
I got the hell out of Dodge.
Bam.
Thanks, thank you.
There you go.
Glad you're still with us and they didn't pop you right there on the spot.
I do not have a linear logical explanation for that.
All right.
We're about to land this puppy for the first extra long hour.
Thank you very much, sir.
You do have some guidelines for healthy living and strengthening yourself for both men and women.
And one of the things to me was this.
Marry someone of our folk and have at least three healthy children.
Raise them in keeping with our traditional values.
Teach them to love their race.
In so doing, you will cause those who hate us much well-deserved pain.
I won't bust your chops for advising three.
I would have said go for four or more.
But I think I saw elsewhere that one of your regrets in life, sir, was that you wish that you had more kids or started earlier.
Is that fair to say?
Oh, let me be a witness to that.
Let me be a witness to that.
I had two children, and I'm going to be ruthless on myself all too often.
I was wrapped up in the cause.
And they turned out okay, but it could have been so much better.
And I get to this point in my life and I realize how little time I've got left.
And it hurts more than anything else that I can think of.
Yes, guys, have lots, as many as you can afford to take care of.
Good, healthy white babies and treasure them and be right there with them all the way.
I was off adventuring when I should have been home sometimes.
That wasn't my intention by any means.
But sometimes good intentions are not enough.
And I kick my ass pretty regularly on that.
Couldn't have said it better, sir.
We try to, you know, we're 40s, 50s, 30s here.
And we try to, for the younger guys in the audience, give them some of our reflections.
And I'm right there with you.
Wish we started earlier.
Wish we had more.
And all you can do is, you know, make the most of the time that you got left.
I want to go out on a even more positive note than the most of the show has been.
And we asked this of our first-time guest, too.
What's your favorite childhood memory, sir?
First thing that comes into your mind.
The first thing that comes to mind is literally, pretty much, sitting at my mother's knee, and she is reading to me a book.
Well, she read to me lots of books.
There was something called The Real Book Club back in that day when I was a child.
And these were hardbound volumes, primarily text, very, you know, a few illustrations, but they were oriented for young children.
And I always wanted the ones on space travel and chemistry and astronomy because I was going to be a scientist and go to the moon.
Now, I'm much more interested in something that will take our race to the stars.
That's our destiny.
We are the space-faring race.
Ask Vano von Braun or Hermann Olbert or any of the other men who led us on that trail.
We are the starfarers.
Just Steve's opinion.
That's right.
Our destiny is in the stars.
Mr. Stephen McNallen is the head of the Wotan Network, the author of The Spear, the founder of the Ossetru Folk Assembly.
Sir, it's been an absolute privilege and an honor to have you on.
I think it was Tom Wolf who wrote a novel called A Man in Full.
That comes to mind, maybe a life in full when it comes to you.
We salute you.
We thank you for your time.
Pick up The Spear.
Pick up his original book on Ossatrue and get involved with the Wotan network if you're so inclined.
It's been a true pleasure, sir.
Well, it's been a pleasure for me, too.
Thank you very much.
I've had a good time, guys.
Thank you, sir.
And you have the DJ booth.
Real quick, Sam Rollo, you want to, we went long in the first half.
You want to come back and do a little content?
You want to wrap it right here.
Rollo, he says, whatever, Sam, you want to, maybe we'll just maybe we'll record another one on like Thursday or Friday this week.
Does that sound all right?
That's up to you.
I got material ready to go.
It's your call.
All right.
Sure.
I'll fix myself a little drink and we'll come back in the second half.
But before we do that, Steve, you earned the DJ booth this week.
Ireland has been popping off, and you are, of course, Irish.
And I personally welcome a good white prole revolt in the streets, even if it seems a little bit chaotic and perhaps senseless because there's so little revolt among our people left.
It seems, obviously.
Warfare is seen at firsthand.
But go ahead, sir.
What are you going to listen to and why?
Well, you're going to go with the ones I suggested.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's see.
I don't have the list in front of me.
The first one was.
I forget which ones you recommended.
Not the Sinead.
We'll skip Sinead for the first time.
Yeah.
I got to say, if you only see one movie on the Irish quote, situation, take a look at Michael Collins.
It's a great film.
And I hate to say it, but it opens with a song.
Opens with a song from her.
Now, she's revolting, but her voice brought it home to me.
So, anyway.
All right.
Very good.
Thank you, sir.
And audience, we will be right back.
As down by the glenside, I met an old woman plucking young nettles.
Not saw I was coming.
I listened a while to the song she was humming.
Glorio, glorio to the bold fiend young men.
Tis 50 long years since I saw the moon beaming on strong manly forms.
Open their eyes, gleaming.
I see them again, sure in all my sad dreaming.
Glorio, Glorio to the bold fiend young men.
When I was a girl, they're marching and drilling awake in the glenside.
Sounds awesome and thrilling.
They loved poor old Ireland to die, they were willing.
Glorio, Glorio, to the bold fiend young men.
Some died by the glenside, some died neath the stranger.
And wise men have told us that her cause was a failure.
But they stood by all darling and they never feared danger.
Glorio, glorio to the boatfenman.
I passed on my way.
God be praised that I met her.
Be my life long or short.
I would never forget her.
We have had good men, but we'll never have better.
Glorio, glorio to the boatfinion.
And welcome back to Full House 173 special Stephen McNallon, perhaps special pagan edition.
I certainly hope that our Christian audience was not in the least offended by our guest there in the first half.
I hope not.
Sam and Rollo seem to roll with the punches with alacrity and a plum.
And I frankly just find him to be a wise, adventuresome, adventurous, kind, and bold man with a lot of interesting life stories.
And it's totally true that a bunch of people reached out to me separately and said, oh, you're having McNallon on.
You got to ask him about this.
You got to ask him about that.
He is a godly figure.
I don't know, godlike or whatnot to a lot of people who respect him deeply.
So pick up the book, check it out, and consider getting involved if you are not already religiously affiliated.
We are going to be flying a little bit more casual than usual here in the second half.
I got one super nice, kind new white life notice from a pal, and I won't say who it is, but he wrote, my sister and her husband have been trying to have a kid for the past few years with no luck.
Found out a few months ago, excuse me, that they wouldn't be able to conceive without doing IVF because her tubes had a large amount of scar tissue.
They ended up finding a great place for treatment, retrieved seven eggs during the first round.
I don't want to know what's involved in that.
Only one of those seven apparently had the potential to be a boy.
And they just found out that she is in fact pregnant and they're going to have their first boy next summer.
So thank you very much, buddy, for sharing that.
Congratulations to your sister and her husband.
And hopefully that baby, well, that baby boy will be special.
Hopefully he's kick ass too.
And our pal Gumtree Party let us know that his humble but delightful wedding went off without a hitch.
And he said he's going to send some pics and his wife, his now wife, looked radiant and beautiful.
So congratulations again to our pal there.
I gave him my old advice foolishly that I once received on the day before my wedding from an old boss who said, make sure that you drink less than usual and she drinks more than usual.
So I gave that to him.
He said, hey, dumbass, she's pregnant.
You know, like irrelevant advice.
Thanks, oh, coach.
Oh, well, I tried.
Let's see.
Happy belated Thanksgiving to the audience.
My in-laws just departed this morning.
They drove all the way in from the middle of the country, had a nice few days, and they're getting a little older.
So they go to bed earlier.
In the olden days, we used to occasionally stay up late, drinking, playing cards, etc.
It's a little more subdued this year.
Wife made a lovely Thanksgiving dinner.
Did not kill the giant white uh rooster for thanksgiving dinner.
I didn't want to take a risk that it was going to taste gamey or stringy or old or nasty, so we just got a butter ball and uh wife made mashed potatoes from our homegrown stash that is uh slowly but surely receding as we head into the winter.
And uh, the kids were well behaved and and it was nice.
We went outside, went down, checked on the chickens, got more eggs than we know what to deal with.
Um, but just a peaceful calm, non-eventful thanksgiving.
Sam, how about you?
Yeah, it was uh magnificent, to say the least.
Um yeah, I had won a turkey from the Knights OF Columbus, so uh had that going for us.
And uh we, we like uh all the, all the traditional things I suppose you would call it uh stuffing and um gravy uh, cranberry sauce, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, green beans and corn, and uh, it was, it was wonderful.
Several of my children were here and uh, my wife and I and my mother-in-law, who's in town for uh through through the holidays, and that means to the end of the year and into the uh new year.
So uh sure, my pleasure to meet her last year too.
Now, of course I know who you're talking about.
Twinkle twinkle, twinkle in her eye.
And you're, you're drinking buddy absolutely yeah, absolutely.
She likes to.
Uh, you know i'll, i'll come up with some kind of special beer.
I said hey, how about it?
Yeah, definitely give me one.
You know so.
And she, she likes all the family stuff and uh, preparing the meal and she's just by herself and uh, my wife is an only child so um, she's very much by herself, but this is a big family to her.
So uh, we definitely had a wonderful time.
But what I wanted to say about Thanksgiving is, uh, because i'm i'm accustomed to getting up early every day, and so I get up early on Thanksgiving as well.
But I, I like to tune in to the Thanksgiving Day parades.
I don't know if you ever spent spent any time watching that, but when I was a kid I like to watch it and of course, you would always get the Chicago, uh Thanksgiving Day parade and then you would get the New York City Thanksgiving Day parade.
Amazes yeah, they would uh, they would be uh broadcast kind kind of in the same time period, but offset by maybe an hour, but the things go for three or four hours and uh, I can.
I can remember when I was little watching it, you know, and maybe flipping the channels and watching those.
But uh now, as I tell people I hate watch it, which is because it's so, so full of the pause.
That is uh America, American society today.
That uh it, it's um uh, you know, it's gross in a certain way.
Well, that my my takeaway from it, or one of my observations.
According to watching these parades, there is no American culture, period.
There really isn't.
It's all other cultures.
And that's something that, especially I was getting to be an adult and as the years went on, it was more and more annoying to me is they have every, you know, a Thailand group and Guatemala and, you know, everything like that.
And whatever things that were were from this country were not even from the area.
You know, they have some marching band from Alabama and some marching band from Virginia or whatever it is.
You know, it's as though we don't have any of our own culture.
We don't have anything going on in this area where I live.
It's just everything is foreign.
Everybody else.
I heard, I don't know if you saw it, that there was a black Santa, that there was, of course, of course, there was gay lesbian floats and stuff like that.
I can't, I mean, thank you for watching, Sam, so we don't have to.
Aside from the multiculturalism, were there any other visual abortions on display?
Yeah, possibly a pro-abortion float.
Did not see that one.
Did not see that one.
And there are some good things that too.
And that's why I continue to watch it.
I say hate watch kind of humorously, really, but there are some things.
And one thing I really liked was there was a group of Lithuanian folk dancers, and they were doing their thing.
That was very nice.
And then not only that, but then separately there was this float that was, again, some kind of Lithuanian cultural group.
And the float was made into this castle.
I guess it's supposed to be a replica in some way of the oldest castle in Europe, which is in Lithuania.
And the people were dressed in traditional garb.
So they tell us anyways.
It's kind of funny because they look with the way the people were dressed would make you think they look like Arabs, kind of like with the headdress on with a band around the forehead holding a towel over your head.
But this was, and I'll presume that it's correct, but this traditional Lithuanian group.
So that was cool.
And this year, for the very first time anywhere I can remember, there were two high schools represented from the south side in the Chicago parade where there's never anything.
It's as though there's no high schools, there's no nothing, but there were two marching bands.
Of course, both of them are 100% black.
But anyways, it was like, oh, at least there's some kind of local thing.
So I do enjoy watching those.
And it's even beyond the process of it even.
Getting it set up and tuned in and then sitting there and having some breakfast and watching it is something I enjoy.
That's charming for me to envision Sam getting cozy on Thanksgiving to watch the parades on the old tube.
I was always, the only parade that I ever really enjoyed in life was the local 4th of July parade, either being a kid sitting on a chair, waiting for it to go by and getting candy thrown at me this hot, hot July 4th days and seeing all the locals.
Oh, there's that guy.
There's that guy.
And then, of course, the epic one when we won the Little League Championship.
And we got to be in the parade and gloat and see some of the kids who we beat in that epic third game, you know, and be like, yeah, we are blessed and we are the champions by Queen.
Definitely a highlight of my life.
And growing up in South Jersey, I always hated, hated the Mummer parade and the cult around that and those weird.
Okay, fine.
I'll grant that they're very immaculate and elaborate costumes that those people go through a ton of work.
You know what I'm talking about, Sam.
The Mummers.
No, no, no, what is the Mummer?
Oh, Philadelphia New Year's Day parade every year.
And it's almost like a Catholic Mardi Gras thing.
I don't know how much religion is in it, but absolute Philadelphia staple of culture there.
And I just found, like, my parents would maybe put it on as a curiosity on TV.
And I'd be like, why are those people all dressed up so ridiculously?
Maybe beautifully to some people.
And I just thought, I just thought the whole thing was weird.
You got to check it out.
I don't know if you know, might be up your alley for New Year's Day, settle in and watch a Mummer's parade.
If you can get a stream of it, it's probably visually impressive.
I just always found it weird.
Yeah, Rolo, Rolo is a big parade aficionado for sure.
He likes to be in them.
He travels around the country like a groupie.
Snakes onto floats.
Rolo, my friend, totally silent in the first half.
I thought maybe he was stewing at my impertinence to welcome on such a high-ranking heathen, but he was like, no, you were just doing, you were conducting a flawless interview, coach, and I didn't want to get in the way.
Anything, buddy, would you do for Thanksgiving?
Impressions on McNallen or your take on the PQ, the parade question.
Well, I haven't listened to McNallon enough to get a good impression of him down, but for Thanksgiving, that was a joke.
But anyway, Thanksgiving.
I went to my brother's and his wife is a notoriously terrible cook.
And they were hyping up that this year it's going to be grand.
And oh, yeah, gonna be the best.
So I was mostly curious, like, okay, let's see, see what it's what, what's what's going down this year.
Sure.
And I got sick.
Whoa.
Physically ill or just the sniffles.
Yeah.
No, a reaction to the meal.
Yes.
The food is very, very poor quality.
Yeah.
Are they lower class people, Rolo?
Or are they just like not good at the reality?
Is like they act like they are, but they're really not.
It's so weird.
They are the stereotypical Americans.
Like they are what Jews want Americans to be.
Like they like they food poisoning.
They're white nationalist relatives.
Yeah.
Let's go out to eat.
Oh, what are we having?
Taco Bell.
Like it's like, it's that.
And it's not because they're poor or anything.
They just, that's just what they want to eat.
Like they'll have Taco Bell and Pizza Hut every night.
And but so they were talking about like, oh, we got this special bird.
It's going to be good.
They got a pre-cooked turkey.
What?
I didn't even know that was a thing.
I'm familiar with protest chickens from the grocery store.
And you got sick off it anyways?
Well, it was something that they made because they had really terrible mashed potatoes.
It was just a lot of really, really bad stuff.
But did your Ralph were all over the table in front of everybody?
I waited until I got home.
Yeah, I thought you were going to say something about the, I thought you were going to say something about the turkey.
You do have to cook that thing like four hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, the turkey was terrible.
But I ended up drinking some champagne there because I could feel how upset my stomach was.
I was like, I just need something bubbly.
Bubbly, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Give me champagne.
It's all I got.
It was, I mean, I got a story out of it.
So like it wasn't terrible.
Yeah.
But, but yeah, they were just the way they were talking about it.
Like, oh, yeah, it's going to be good this year.
And it was like, you gave me the equivalent of like a TV dinner.
It was, it was really good that our in-laws were here because we bought a new range for this place in 2019.
Whirlpool, you know, well-reviewed consumer reports, et cetera.
And one by one, it's electric.
The top cooktops have lost their ability to moderate heat.
So it was either like full blast heat or off essentially.
And I went to, and I did my homework and I went to buy new switches for them because apparently that's a sign that the switch has gone bad.
You know, it's on off.
It doesn't have any moderating thing.
And then we realized that the turkey was burning not disastrously, but that the heat that the, you know, it was just reacting like the oven was on full blast and not set to a lower heat.
So having father-in-law here, he said, this is unacceptable.
And I had no idea that the oven was bad too.
So we said, all right, it's time.
So we did our homework and ended up getting a GE.
Apparently, GE still makes good kitchen appliances.
We've had pretty good luck with them on ovens and stuff like that.
So we got a new range coming.
And I guess we're going to, this one, since it still technically works, we're thinking of like putting it down in the valley as a backup oven.
Maybe just, yeah, there's your electric heat, but we would have to get a 220 new outlet put there.
Man, really scraping for content here.
But I got a new electric range and oven here, thanks to father-in-law being here and declaring that unacceptable.
He's not wrong, but I don't cook a lot.
So I'm like, whatever, just turn it off, turn it on, et cetera.
Before we get too far off of the parades thing, we were talking about parades.
And now I was, you know, we were wandering a little bit off.
But the last time I attended a parade, not being in it, but attending it as a spectator, I was a, I got to be careful not to give too many details on this one as far as when and what it was, but I was at a parade and this Negro came, walked right up to me and he handed me a one people's project business card.
Oh, yeah, Daryl.
Was it Daryl himself?
Was it not?
It was no, and to be honest, I was representing, you might say.
And it was just, it was a funny moment.
Scrape by without getting in trouble.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just laughed.
I handed you that card and you said, I'll look into it, my brother.
I'm the yeah, I'll look into it.
I just laughed, you know, it was a funny moment for sure.
I have been to a couple protests where he was there with his like toothy grin and his gigantic belly, like taking video.
And it was always like a joke.
It's like, oh, Daryl's here.
Daryl the Barrel's here, you know.
Nobody, like, nobody was like, honestly, nobody was like, oh my God, you know, Daryl's here.
He's taking video.
It's like, of course he is.
You know, it's just what he does.
Yeah.
Shows up.
I wonder if he went to Amaran again this year to like just stand in a parking lot and try to look scary and fail.
Just a pathetic big fat slob.
There's nothing to feel other than like disgust and pity.
He's like almost like a court jester.
Yeah.
Antifa's clown.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would say like he personally is not any threat or anything to get too concerned about.
Some of the people associated with that, I would definitely be careful about.
I was delighted to see probably a week or two ago that a face that I recognized from Charlottesville that like I remember him standing there.
He was with this fat bearded woman and he had a cap on.
And I think I remember him at least holding a club, if not a spike club.
The spiked may have been an elaboration, but he got busted for dealing drugs recently.
Big surprise come back.
But yeah, just totally jumped off the page.
I remember that a-hole from Charlottesville trying to menace us with it with, you know, with a club in his hand.
Before we get too far, Rolo, teaser for the audience, Rolo, enterprising young lad that he is, has taken it upon himself.
At first, I thought it was a really bad idea because what we say during the break or after the show, et cetera, is supposed to not be recorded, but Rollo's got some secret stash.
Oh, like a Watergate tapes here.
After hours, before the pre-show.
Yeah, I know.
I got him.
I'm looking at you over there, big guy.
And this is not surprising that there's some real gems in there.
And he's curated some of it.
And he proposed that we put it out on Cantwell's network, Surreal Politics, as, hey, you know, it's a little added bonus content that won't be free and wild in the internet.
So, Rolo, is that a fair description?
Well, yes, but the stuff that is recorded, it's all the stuff that is during the break.
It's not like the post-call discussions.
Which is generally, it's still pretty, it's semi-topical is what I would call it.
Some of it is just like, this is what I did today, but it's pretty much mostly related to stuff that we talk about anyway.
So it's not like some juicy gossip or anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's stuff that I would consider not really good enough for a full show, but it's still good enough content on its own.
So a good spot for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a, you know, your DVD bonus features.
How many times, you know, before the show in the break or at the end have we said, man, that should have been on the show.
You know, there's just, it's just when you get people talking, good stuff comes out.
And it's quite wish we had.
Yeah, often.
Often.
At the break for sure.
Yep.
And it makes sense too.
Yeah.
Because, you know, sometimes I do the telegram recording, but Rolo's doing the hard, I don't know, it's not like he's recording the tape or whatever, but he's got the duplicate recording.
It makes sense that you just keep that rolling.
Yeah.
All the time.
I would even say pre and post.
You know, there's just always good stuff that comes out.
Speaking of recording and my internet, of course, it pops out twice, about twice every hour.
No idea.
But my knee.
Just like your what?
Your knee.
Rollo sent me five or six minutes that I said, oh, that's awesome.
I was really interested in listening to it.
And then I completely forgot, just went about my life.
So I'm going to listen to that probably after this show.
I had one that I had a moving moment and inspirational moment with our youngest who, you know, you could hear it in Steve McNallon's voice, how he regretted not spending more time with his kids, not having more.
I mean, gosh, just even if you have one, making the years count, especially while they're young.
So I'm still really trying to milk our youngest in the best sense of the word, just appreciating having a little rambunctious guy who doesn't have language, 100% down pat, et cetera, reading the stories.
You know, the two older kids are too old and jaded for dad to read them stories, but came across a lovely, beautiful one that I had in the stack.
We've got children's books to the ceiling, both like ones that my mom gave us that we got for the other kids when they were young, et cetera.
They just show up out of nowhere.
And it's called, it's called Owl Moon.
And I guess it won one of those, whether it was Newberry or Cal Decott, either for the illustration or for the story.
And it's a father and son.
And it's clearly the youngest son.
And they go for a walk in snowbound full moon night to go owling.
And I had never heard of this.
I was thinking, this is a beautiful concept.
So you just go out on a perfectly still night, ideally when it's snowy to get that ambiance.
And then you wander deep in the woods.
You've got to bundle up.
And then you're listening for owls.
If you hear an owl in the distance, you go for it toward that.
Or if not, you just wander deep in the woods and then you mimic an owl hoot, I suppose.
And then apparently, supposedly, if this book is any guide, the owl will hoot back if you do it right.
So you may have to do some homework or something, but just the idea of letting potatoes stay up late on a snowy night this winter to go wandering into the woods, holding dad's hand.
Maybe bring a flashlight, but you got to be super quiet.
So you don't have to be all chatty about it and just go listening for owls.
And if you're really gifted, make an owl sound to see if you can get them to call back.
I thought it was a beautiful book, regardless of whether that's up your alley or not.
But I added that onto the stack of to-do lists while we still have at least one who's still young enough and perhaps game enough to go on a little adventure like that with his old man.
Owl Moon.
Check it out.
Get that out from, it's got to be cheap if you buy it.
Poor Sam, no, no little ones still under the house, but you're going to have a hell of a good time with your grandkids doing that one day.
Right, right.
Well, we did have a birthday here recently, my youngest son.
And he had a party with a bunch of his friends from the Catholic Homeschooler group, which is a great group of people.
And we kind of set the hours like, okay, it's from this to, you know, like one to five, you know, and I didn't like the way it sounded.
It's like we're telling the people they got to leave.
And so it's getting up to five.
And I guess we had somehow let it out to people, or maybe my son had said, like, we're trying to go to this Wellington Arms gig, you know.
And so that's why the hours were that because, you know, we would have to get there and they're going on at a certain time.
So, and I told the people, I said, you guys can come with if you with us if you want to travel just a little bit and attend, which is a joke.
I don't think any of them could handle it.
But we did go because it was also one of our dear lady friends in our local group.
It was her birthday as well.
So we were going out and Wellington Arms was playing a gig.
This guy, a local friend, he had got in some trouble with there was a bakery and they were somehow they were, I have to look up how the story went, but they're somehow involved with a drag queen story hour or something.
And so even to a skinhead to get in trouble at a bakery.
How does this happen?
Yeah he, he went there and there's glass broken and he got arrested and and everything like that and and everything involved.
In the times we live, you think like, oh man, this guy's going to prison for years, but he ended up getting just a couple of months and uh, everything worked out okay, all things considered, and so he was getting out of the, out of the joint basically, and so this gig was to kind of celebrate that And so, and we had a couple of birthdays.
So, so it was a lot of fun.
You know, it was a lot of fun.
And so my mother-in-law, she said, well, I want to come with you too.
So I said, well, all right, then come on.
So we went.
It was a good time, definitely.
And it was funny because, you know, all our people you've met, a lot of them are very personable and friendly.
And so friendly.
So this one guy, one young fella, he was, you know, we're all kind of, we're getting ready to go.
Everyone's kind of hugging goodbye.
And so he's hugging her.
She's hugging him.
And then somebody's looking at them.
She says, well, this is my son, you know, as a joke.
And then he leans in and whispers to her, I thought we were lovers.
So that was very funny.
Sam, I never really got the skinhead thing until I heard Wellington Arms.
I'm not blowing smoke up to the skirts.
And of course, I liked Fasseen.
Yeah, White Power.
I heard them.
But I'm not bullshitting.
I'm not trying to like curry favor with Nate.
They have the melody, the melodic sound to them, along with, of course, the hard rock edge.
That's the only CD I have on in my minivan.
I don't know if it's a multi-disc or whatever, but I just got that one in there.
And usually when the kids aren't in the car, I'll pop that on every once in a while and just jump out of the limits and then the rest of it.
It's a fun environment, even if it, even if you say to yourself, this is not my thing, but to go to a gig is a tremendous amount of fun.
I'll even put it out there right now.
Money back guarantee.
You come to a show and you're not happy when you leave.
I will personally make good on the ticket.
All right.
No scammers, please.
Yeah.
No, don't try to move.
Sam takes free turkeys out of poor people's mouths.
But don't do that.
Right.
Exactly.
You mentioned the guy getting in trouble at the bakery, broken glass, et cetera.
Reminded me of our prisoners.
I got a letter back from Ash the other day from England.
Oh, yeah.
Our friend from the fourth anniversary special, you know, bittersweeties.
They're appealing his eight-year sentence and the list of other crimes that he included in the letter that other people have committed, been found guilty for and gotten shorter sentences from the same effing judge.
I know I gave myself one F-bomb per show license for the second half only, but I'm not going to use it.
It's just heartbreaking.
And they moved him to a prison almost as far away from his family as possible.
So it becomes much more difficult for them to travel.
They've curtailed his communications because he's got a lot of friends out there who call, who want to visit, et cetera.
And apparently, if you have any communication whatsoever that is remotely, you know, related to our politics or our worldview, they consider that radicalizing material.
And then you get sort of iced out and you're not allowed comms with him.
So I was, I was very happy.
He said he got a good laugh because on the last page of my letter, I just drew a big circle.
And in writing, I said, please visualize a very powerful, peaceful, ancient symbol of, you know, our people's heritage and pride there.
You know what?
And man, just for a good-hearted, innocent family guy who's trying to do the best legally, non-violently, to get slapped with an eight-year sentence.
And also, he was a prison guard.
So he's, of course, at severe risk of getting shanked.
He said that he said unequivocally, I might not make it out of here.
If you haven't listened to our fourth anniversary special about 20, 30 episodes ago, whatever it was, please do.
It's called Rules of Britannia.
Even better than that, write to Ash in England.
He did say explicitly that if you write to him, you could, there's a distinct possibility that you'll get on an MI5 watch list to which I thumb my nose and say, go ahead, come and take my MI5 watch list virginity assholes.
Excuse me.
But just send him books, write to him.
Pretend you're a normie and you just heard about his situation, whatever you have to do.
Costs $1.25 to send an envelope with a letter to England.
I think I've posted this on the Telegram channel.
If not, I'll put it in the show notes to write to Ash.
I actually have another prisoner that I'm in correspondence with and young guy who got hemmed up on some stupid stuff.
And I haven't heard back from him recently to confirm whether I can boost that or not.
I suppose I can.
And then I got another one who's in the works who might be going in.
And another one of our great friends just got out, as I mentioned at the top of last show and got to spend Thanksgiving with his lovely family.
What a horrible deal he went through and is now back out and, you know, getting back, getting back to life.
He did his time, as Cantwell described in that real, one of, one of Cantwell's best shows, I think, was when he talked about doing your time and doing your, if you have to go to prison, you know, just do your time and get out and start over again.
And most of us, go ahead, please.
If that doesn't convince you that they hate us, they intend to hurt us, they would hurt our families, they'll do anything possible to hurt us, that you should be well convinced of that by this point.
100%.
And Ireland is popping off, as I mentioned there at the top.
Am I crazy, guys?
Am I a troglodyte for being happy to see whites in Europe chimping out, quote unquote?
Or, you know, it was children.
Children getting stabbed.
Okay.
Yeah.
It may not be the most effective, well-thought-out strategy, but you know what's worse than like working class right-wing Irish lads angry about immigration and the stabbing of young children from an Algerian who shouldn't have been there in the first place, had previously been arrested and was let free?
Well, yeah, that's pretty bad too.
But not chimping out, just passively going along with it.
So calm, yeah, calmly a mean SOB or delighting in destruction or whatever.
But how many times have we seen burning arson riots, looting, theft, chimp outs from the other side?
And to see it coming from our people over in Ireland.
Yeah, I'm not even pretending to be like, you know, the window rolling up.
Oh, I'm not looking this.
No, it's, it's well deserved, frankly.
Well, it's not this.
Yeah, go ahead, Rola.
Well, I'd like to put this into perspective because, you know, some retard might say something stupid like, oh, you're burning down your own neighborhood.
Well, think about it like this.
They're burning down their own neighborhood to get rid of an infestation.
Think about it.
Like you have to tear down parts of your house to get rid of mold or replace rot.
That's you got to shave your head if you got lice.
Yeah, that too.
Because if they didn't do anything about it, what you know what happens?
Those migrants, quote unquote, those invaders, let's call them what they are.
They're invaders, they're going to stay there and they're going to multiply and they're going to keep bringing them in.
Now they burn that down.
Okay.
Now they have nowhere to go.
Well, you know what?
They're going to be on the street facing a bunch of angry Irish people.
So now they have to look forward to that because if they're burning that down, they probably don't care about what happens if they start throwing fists with these people.
So they put them in another hotel.
They burn that one down too.
And then eventually they won't have anywhere to go and they'll have to leave Ireland.
And then the Irish, they can rebuild their country.
They can always do that.
They can't do that when their country is destroyed by non-whites replacing them.
The whole idea that Indian Tao Siege or however the hell they pronounce it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And to think that what they're doing is counterproductive.
They're just burning down their own property.
The part of their property that they're burning down is infested and that infestation will grow.
You have to destroy some things.
Like if you want to get rid of that black mold behind your shower, what do you do?
Well, how about you have a discussion about how to do it?
Okay.
And then what?
Eventually, you're going to have to tear some things down if you want to fix it.
Sorry.
We were just listening to the left and scenes of arson and destruction and looting or mostly peaceful protests.
That's all I saw mostly over there.
Absolutely.
Ireland.
Sorry.
Sorry.
You know, I've been told time and again that those are expressions of the people's will.
And Chris Kwo says it say that protests have to be peaceful and well-behaved.
Oh, yeah.
I guess.
All right.
Sorry.
All right.
Take your word for it.
Exactly.
All right.
Good for the good for the gander.
The system knows that they're losing control.
And that's why there's all these attacks on right-wing politicians and things like that.
They know that they're losing control.
They know that our way of thinking is ascendant.
Yep.
Problematic for the world managers there too, as McNellen said.
And, you know, apparently that neighborhood, North Dublin, has been run down and basically depleted.
Ireland and Dublin in particular.
We were there, God, 2012, maybe.
It was one of the last trips we took before we had kids and spent most of our time in Galway and in Dublin, which in hindsight was a bad decision.
We should have just rented a car and explored the country for real, but we kind of just wanted to have fun.
And yeah, Dublin was not at all a pleasant city, Galway, much more so genuine Irish.
And yeah, I checked out the Irish Times before the show just to see what they're saying.
And there's actually some liberals saying it was weird to see, I believe, a liberal op-ed columnist describing or almost apologizing for the behaviors in the same way that you're so accustomed to hearing about blacks in America, that that's a disadvantaged neighborhood, that the people feel abandoned by their government, and that this is what happens when you allow that to fester.
And of course, unspoken is the righteous, justified rage at having alien knife wielding child killing.
And I believe one of the children did die from the stabbing.
It's a shame we don't have Smasher on to talk about this because I'm sure he's following it back and forth.
But yeah, Smasher is back in comms again, delightfully.
And we got to twist his arm to get him back on the show sometime.
So yep, God bless our Irish brothers and sisters over there.
You got to hand it to Keith Woods.
He's been doing a hell of a job threading that needle between advocacy and not getting completely banned and shut down.
He's got good discipline for sure to be able to go and name the Jew and name the invaders, et cetera, without getting banned.
I don't know.
He and he and Elon should have a beer sometime.
I almost was thinking, man, maybe I really, you know, stuck my foot in it with my analysis of Elon Musk and his biography.
And he's never going to be our guy.
He cares about getting to the moon and stars.
I still think that's true.
You know, he's still banning people and he's doing this little thing where he signal boosts and engages, but it's certainly better than No Elon Musk.
Don't get me wrong.
I don't want to be a hater or whatever.
I'm just, maybe I'm too cynical, or maybe I'm seeing it accurately.
And this is about as much as we can expect from him.
Well, I would say that the more things progress, as we see, we will see more people taking our side in different ways just because our thing is ascendant.
It's not that they're on our side, but they will when it when our thing is perceived as the thing to be, then you will get people supporting it.
Yep, absolutely.
No, it's man, you know, sometimes I'm like a grizzled veteran, like, oh, I, I was through the war and this is like the aftershocks and the after years or whatever, but the fight continues every damn day online.
Oh, yeah.
Organizing, normies, elections, politics, activism, et cetera, Wotan Network to Patriot Front to active clubs to everything else.
It really has taken on a life of its own when it felt very lonely or nascent, I guess I would say, in my coming of age years, 2014, 2017, etc.
The fight continues.
You got to remind yourself.
And yeah, there are days I mentioned it.
Life would, life, listen, if you're listening to this audience and you're not involved whatsoever, life is a lot easier and simpler and less risky if you just keep your mouth shut and keep your head down like an ostrich putting its head in the ground.
That's a safe way to go.
That is a more comfortable way to go.
It's almost certainly going to be a more lucrative way to go long term.
But just like Steve McNallon, you can hear really rude not having more kids.
And I've said on the show before, when you're on that deathbed, wherever and whenever it is, you're almost certainly going to wish that you did more in one way or another.
So whatever that is, whatever that is, get involved and pick up the spirit too.
It's got some good tips in there for people getting started.
I did share with the guys.
I said, you know, a lot of this stuff, you know, I've been in for a while, but for someone who's relatively new to our ideology, to Asatru, to Odinism, or to activism in general, there's a lot of useful, good gems in there to get started and kick things off.
I do not have anything else in the stack for myself personally.
Sam Rolo, over to you guys.
If you got anything else, if not, we'll just land this puppy.
We went long in the first half.
Well, I was just going to mention, don't forget about the white power hour.
I don't always mention it every single time.
And if you're following that channel, you know, we aim to have one every single week, sometimes we're every one or two weeks.
And once in a while, you know, we might fall off the wagon a little bit and life gets in the way.
This has been full house.
Well, I just I just did one today.
And so there will be a new one coming out.
And Mark gets busy too.
But we do try to get them out.
So definitely everybody go over to White Power, our Telegram channel.
And I'm going to give the address here just so people will remember.
It's always fun to go there and hear some music, even if it's not your thing.
Tune in a little bit, hear what I have to say about what's going on in music.
Especially this week, it was kind of, yeah, we try to have a theme, but what kind of theme we're going to have?
I don't know.
And I said, you know what I want to do is what am I listening to right now?
What's on my turntable right now?
What's in my CD tray right now?
What's in my cassette deck right now?
And so I'm just playing the things I'm listening to right now, which are interesting.
But the Telegram channel is WP Our, H-O-U-R, show 88, all one word, no spaces, of course.
WP our show 88.
Check it out.
You know, it's fun.
Absolutely.
I love doing that show.
Check out my show.
Oh, that one is great.
Just if no other reason, it was like such a shift of gears.
Sure, I know.
Those guys kind of indulged me.
They were like, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that was great.
That is a great episode for sure.
Thank you for coming.
Check it out.
Yep, Sam.
Absolutely.
And of course, their Telegram or device band.
So I always have a hard time finding them.
But yeah, just go to Telegram.
Use your desktop or web Telegram, et cetera, to get there.
Check out Sam doing that.
And Rolo, what's up with you guys and the Final Storm real quick?
Did you find a new host or whatnot?
Or are you just still putting it straight to Telegram?
No, we're on Odyssey.
We're doing Odyssey.
They have their own RSS feed, and you don't have to upload videos.
You just put an MP3 there, which makes a lot of things easier.
It reminds me of Mark Twain.
The rumors of Odyssey's death were much exaggerated.
I guess they were close to death or they were down for a little bit and knew well.
The future was uncertain because of their cryptocurrency.
They got sued by the SEC.
And what came out was that apparently that's not tied to Odyssey itself.
So it seems like it's going to be good for now.
But who knows?
Again, it's another right-wing platform that pretty much just exists to put anti-Semitic content.
Like there is still stuff for Destiny posts there, I'm pretty sure.
But there's a lot of my best friend in the whole world.
I miss him.
We should hang out again sometime.
Yeah, I don't know Destiny from a Valsh from a hole in the wall, but Vouch is the fat one.
Destiny's the short one.
They both make my skin crawl.
They both have sex with men.
Oh, yeah.
Trust me.
Yeah.
Well, they admit to it.
Like it's you say that like it's a bad thing.
Yeah.
I just remember.
Go ahead, Jim.
I was just saying that one time Destiny was going to be on some debate and then he had to cancel because he was too high.
He likes to.
Yeah.
He took ecstasy on the audio.
Yeah, ecstasy.
that exact comment from sam is in one of the bonus cuts that i was yeah oh yeah oh man when he's he's talk he's talking to uh sam melia yeah who among us has not reached for the aspirin bottle and accidentally tripped on ecstasy no no no he thought it no what happened was he thought it was ecstasy and it was mdma That ecstasy is MDMA.
Or sorry, He thought it was MDMA, but it was meth.
That's what I was doing.
Yeah, yeah.
He thought he was taking ecstasy and then he just started flying high.
This is some high hosty I got here.
Why am I?
Yeah.
Well, the funniest part of that, he's like, my penis is only an inch.
I'm not joking.
Like he actually put that in his Discord chat.
Wow.
You're getting a lot of information there.
Now my skin's really crawling.
Thank you.
Oh, my gosh.
Rolo mentioned Destiny Dick on episode 173 of Full House.
Thanks, Rolo.
Welcome.
The internet can't forget that.
He admitted that his penis is only an inch long.
No, my cold day in Destiny Land.
All right, let's get the hell out of here.
I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
Full House 173 was recorded.
It might be a full moon up there.
I looked up there.
It was gorgeous and sparkling tonight.
And the other night, I looked up at the sky and there was a beautiful halo of clouds around the moon with Jupiter.
I don't know how I do it, but I can always tell.
I'm like, no, that's Jupiter or that's Venus because they look kind of similar, bright in the sky.
And my father-in-law was like, that's Venus.
Jupiter is done for the year.
I was like, nope, that's Jupiter.
And then I pulled out Sky Guide, this old app I have had on my iPhone forever.
You point it up at the sky and it plays the celestial music and identifies all this.
Skywalk, I think is what it's called, right?
Sky Guide is mine, but I'm sure that there's several.
Yeah, that could be.
Sky Guide.
Skywalk is what I use.
That is an excellent app.
I use a landstand.
You made that up.
That's not a real word.
Yeah, there's no opposite of Skywalk.
He did me.
Yeah, it's like, you're bullshit.
You can't bullshit a bullshitter.
Well, you can most of the time.
Sometimes Rolo's stuff goes over my head.
I am but a humble podcast merchant here.
Try to be a good father and husband.
All right, fam.
We love you.
Check out the spear, please.
It's on runestone.org.
That link will be in the show notes.
Check out surreal politics and use full house as your reference code.
I will listen to Rolo's extensive combing through the off-mic, on-mic archives to post that there, assuming that that's fair to God knows which guests are on there.
Make sure that that's safe.
Oh, there's a lot of them.
We've had a lot of great guests over the years.
And, you know, it's very, very rare that we have them back on.
We always say, oh, yeah, come back on every time.
And it's like, well, you know, let's go with new guests every time.
But we'll have some classics back, including Tom Sewell and our pal Andreas from Nordic Frontier.
We want to do a Christmas Yule mashup with him before December gets too long in the tooth.
So you know what to do, fam.
If you want something on the air considered or read in terms of new white life, please email us, fullhouse show at protonmail.com.
As the holidays approach, if you got a little extra scratch in the piggy bank, consider us.
And that's at givesendgo.com slash fullhouse.
Telegram, Gab, and the website is always there to keep you posted.
God bless Sam and his family, even Rolo and his food poisoning, sister and brother-in-law or brother and sister-in-law, whatever.
Sorry, bud.
And to Stephen McNallon, the Wotan Network, Asatru Folk Assembly, all those good people.
I've had a delightful time at several AFA events over the past few years, and they've always been warm and accepting of a cynical, skeptical, hard ass like myself.
Treat your kids right.
Go forth, multiply, and we'll talk to you next week.
Oh, the music.
I am going to shamelessly pull from our pal Andreas and Nordic Frontier.
I have always loved the tear jam that starts at the top of Nordic Frontier.
And then for some reason, it's like when Andreas does the break, he's like, let's do a little jingle.
You just started the show.
It's been five minutes.
Why do you need a break?
Go ahead, Rolo.
Is tear?
Is that the synth sounding instrumental?
No, no, no.
It's the one that comes before it with the galler horn and the dome.
Because I was going to say, you've already used that one.
No, I haven't used the weird synth stuff that he plays after tear.
I don't think.
No, no, no, no.
I thought you just meant tear.
Okay, no.
Yeah.
I meant tear.
I meant what I say what I mean and I meant what I say most of the time.
I still don't, I'm still not exactly clear which Irish jam I'm supposed to play, whether it was Foggy Dew.
All right.
Am I back?
You are back.
All right.
You've been here the whole time.
No, it cut out on me.
This is Tyr by Wardruna for the third time.
Let's get the hell out of here before my Wi-Fi drops again.