Welcome, everyone, to episode 87 of Full House, the world's finest, maybe the world's only pro-white, family-friendly, white nationalist podcast from the West Coast to the East Coast, from America to England to down under, and everywhere in between.
Welcome, everybody.
I am your, apparently, someone told me today that I am the Mr. Rogers of white nationalism.
And I'm dead on that one.
Not wrong.
I'll take that as a compliment.
Yeah, but a buddy said that he shared a couple of articles that were written about me with his very wise son.
And it's like, dad, it's like they're crucifying Mr. Rogers.
Anyway, that tickled me.
Shout out to everybody in the D-Live studio.
I'm not going to call it the Lemon Gallery.
Well, maybe I will, just to irritate Smasher.
And yeah, this is our second anniversary.
We started the show in April 2019, maybe only our fourth or fifth live stream.
And we wanted to do something special for the fans.
And we've got a lot of awesome guests in store.
And you can probably see one of them there on your screens.
So we're going to stick to a little bit of format here.
I told Mr. Producer, I was like, coach, just relax.
Don't do notes.
Don't be a taskmaster this week.
And I split the difference.
I got a couple notes here on my piece of paper and a lot of good content and a lot of good guests coming up.
So before we meet the birth panel, our beginning birth panel, big thanks to three listeners, Phil, Srpska, and Fritz, who helped us keep the lights on this week.
Thank you guys.
I'm going to ignore Coach's notes.
Smasher says there.
Yeah, of course he's in the Smasher's in the Lemon Gallery, just trolling me, throwing this thing off track.
All right, let's get right to the birth panel and get cracking because we're going to go at least two hours tonight.
We got a couple bits.
We got navigating the collapse.
I received a phone call from prison right before we were about to go to tape.
Didn't tell Mr. Producer about that.
Don't worry, it's not explicit that I would like to play for everybody if I can figure out how because I'm doing the control panel, Mr. Producer.
He's got his feet up on the table as usual.
All right, here we go.
First up, when we live stream, he gets top billing because he is the hardest working man on Full House.
Mr. Producer, how the hell are you?
I'm good, coach.
How are you?
A little stressed.
You know, I was trying something new.
I watched maybe five minutes of the 25-minute video that you sent me.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
You're like herding a whole bunch of cats and you're just one single cat, but it's fun.
I wouldn't use it for the world.
We're winging it okay, though, right?
I press play just like you always do and the music played and all the rest of it.
But yeah, as long as you remember to press record.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
We are recording.
All right.
Good stuff.
Anything new in your world?
Are you just here to Ogle?
Ogle, you know, I've got a gang of kids.
I'm almost finished with my softball team.
And yeah, just working hard and just pumping out new white life.
Amen.
Yeah, it was funny.
You made a bet with Smasher about who was going to have more kids first or sooner.
And then you were in the lead by a mile.
And then Smasher was like, if you're having another set of twins.
Yeah, it jumped ahead of me.
And you know what's you know what's funny is Smasher and I can bet about this, but man, my poor wife, like his wife is going to have two pregnancies and mine's had more, you know, and he's still going to be ahead of me.
That's right.
So yeah.
And he's not at all proud of that.
Yeah.
No, not at all.
All right.
Well, next up, I see his black and white, very Odinistic pagan avatar there.
Sammy Baby, this is our first time using this setup.
Can you hear us?
And are you unmuted?
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Good.
You're a little, you're a little quiet in my headphones, but what's going on, big guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's exciting.
Two years.
It hardly seems like it.
It just flew by so fast.
I remember fondly the humble beginnings.
We were at a mania and we started discussing this idea and putting our heads together, writing down some notes.
And here we are.
Show has always enjoyed such support from the listeners.
And we have, how could I say, the listeners and everybody who is on this show is a very special person as we've interacted with each other through these two years.
We've got a really cool advantage over other podcasts.
All of our people love us and have nothing but compliments to say about us.
And any detractor would look like an asshole to call a dad podcast, you know, to talk shit about a dad podcast.
So we have a huge built-in advantage.
For sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, that's been the most rewarding thing about the show.
Personally, it's not about the clout.
Well, the most rewarding thing is when somebody says that they decided to get engaged or get married or have more kids because of us.
That's number one, of course, sort of job one.
We don't strictly just say have more babies, become father, and that'll fix everything.
But that's a big part of it, but just the heartfelt feedback.
And I really thought when we started this thing that it was going to, you know, you're going to have a lot of naysayers that said it was contrived or counterproductive somehow.
But, you know, be careful what you ask for.
But virtually nothing like that whatsoever.
So, so far, so good.
All right.
Looks like we just lost Smasher.
Oh, there he's back.
All right.
Sammy Baby, thank you.
Honored to have you on.
Adding Smasher back in.
Smasher.
Can you hear us?
I can.
Can you hear me?
What's up, buddy?
Oh, I just, they said I can hear you.
I said, who?
That's great, radio, Smasher.
Yeah.
I'm just one day.
I'm just down after DMX.
You could have had a bang tonight.
Yeah, DMX is dead.
Did you know that DMX?
So a couple years ago, somebody did a study on the vocabulary range of all of hip-hop.
And DMX has the smallest range, right?
The largest range.
Guess who he's representing, racial-wise?
Eminem.
The white man.
No, no, it's not Eminem.
The white man.
It's Aesop Rock.
I actually used to listen to his stuff.
Yeah, he's kind of obscure, but I used to listen to his stuff.
But yeah, by far the largest range.
He's kind of obscure.
You know, you probably wouldn't have heard of him.
I used to listen to him as a big fan.
What is that?
Like a humble name?
Smasher doesn't reflect on anything.
Things we're putting them on the spot.
Smasher, two years in.
You in for another one?
You have to sign a verbal agreement with us right now to keep with us.
I don't think I have any choice.
Good deal.
Well, welcome, buddy.
Don't get too wild tonight.
You're going to do an after-party or is that TBD?
No, not tonight.
I got stuff to do tomorrow.
Oh, sorry to hear about that.
I know.
All right.
Well, next up, and our first special guest of the evening, not that the birth panel ain't special.
He is the Mussolini Muscle.
I don't know.
That just came to me right now.
Something at the he's the man.
Stryker.
Welcome on, buddy.
Welcome back.
What's going on, everyone?
I know I sound a little crappy, but my microphone doesn't work on this computer, but hopefully it sounds okay anyway.
You sound like a bag of rocks, like usual.
Fantastic.
It's not bad.
Good to be here.
Hey, Stryker.
Good to see you, man.
Likewise.
Yeah.
Hope to see you in a couple of weeks.
Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, if you're coming to the gig, yeah.
Oh, yes.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Sam has mentioned the show on the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's with the knowledge and permission and everything of the guys organizing it.
So, I mean, they run a tight ship and it'd be a hard time for anybody to just go to it.
You have to contact them and get properly vetted.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Stryker, you came on probably a year and a half ago, pretty early on in the show when you and Wild Rich came on.
That was probably our most listened episode in the early years.
But you stated on that show that you do hope to become a father soon.
Maybe in the next year or two.
So what's going on, Biggie?
Well, I got an elephant's memory.
You know what's interesting about this is that, you know, every man has a certain, especially when you get a little older, you get into your 30s.
Every man kind of has a paternalistic instinct.
And that's usually satisfied through having children and stuff.
And I do want to do that.
However, as a political activist and knowing a lot of guys and stuff, younger guys, you almost get that satisfaction just from being in this movement.
You know, you get to be almost like a mentor.
And in my case, sometimes a bad influence.
But you get that kind of feeling already.
Now, of course, you do have to have your own kids.
But, you know, I'm working on it.
I'm trying to figure out a more stable situation.
And I know, I know, it's never a good time, but, you know, I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row and get started.
The most important thing is to have children.
Look at the troubles people have just even getting pregnant and then having them and having healthy children and raising them.
I mean, worrying about your age relative to theirs or worrying about if you're getting a boy or a girl and all that.
It's really silly.
It's one thing that we could learn from blacks is like, just have kids.
Right.
They have like six a year.
It's incredible.
Well, we support them.
They have a gestation period of like three months.
Yeah.
It's crazy, isn't it?
They just seem to have like this, you know, a 30-year-old black woman could be a grandmother.
You know what I mean?
Like there are three generations and a 30-year-old soul, you know?
And she's still having kids.
Yeah, exactly.
I knew a kid when I was younger who had, who is the uncle of a girl who is older than him.
So he was like eight and she was like 14.
Which is crazy.
Yeah.
If you have a lot of children, that could easily happen.
I mean, that was the case with my mother and her aunt and, you know, other, my great-grandmother had seven children and so forth.
So that could happen.
Yeah.
Stryker, I got to ask, it's no secret that there was another NJP meeting last weekend.
And I think I can share a spoiler that you gave your first speech, which was a barn burner in every in every sense of the word.
Obviously, it was like 105 degrees in there.
You didn't break a sweat, but tell us a little bit, buddy, about, you don't have to give the speech away because that should be coming any minute now, but your prep for it.
Did you wing it?
It looked like you were speaking mostly off the cuff.
You know, you had some notes in front of you, but give the audience and the listeners after the fact who aren't joining us live a little bit of play-by-play or color for that.
Yeah.
So let me just be frank.
I was a little hungover and the lights, the lights were killing my eyes, like the lights on the stage.
So I was like, well, I didn't really have a speech written either.
So I was just like, I have a few things written on a tablet here, but the lights are killing my eyes.
So I'm just going to wing it.
And so I just kind of made it up as I went along.
That's impressive.
Yeah, everyone loved it.
I was happy about the crowd.
The crowd is what makes the speech.
You really feed off the crowd when you're in that situation.
Did you yell at your own pauses?
What?
Did you yell during your own pauses, like in past speeches?
Yes.
And, you know, the basic premise of the speech, it should be out by Monday.
We're going to have all the speeches out.
The basic premise was to articulate Andrew Yang's worst nightmare, which is white truckers getting fed up with this system and not bringing any food or supplies to New York or California.
And to see what they think about white privilege then.
Do you really think white men are oppressing you?
Well, then white men won't come into your cities to bring the things you need.
You can't grow corn in Manhattan.
Right.
So essentially, all we wanted was two grand a month.
Yeah, exactly.
But essentially, what it is, is to show, like, you know, I was watching a video today.
I think you shared it, actually, Coach.
And it was like these, it was in Columbus, Ohio, and these white EMT workers pick up this black guy.
He's cracked out.
He was robbing people all day.
He had all these different credit cards in his pocket.
They take him to the hospital, and they find out he's got like three guns on him.
Then he starts shooting at people from inside the hospital.
He shoots at one of the police officers.
It turns into this big standoff.
Now, every responsible person in that scene was a white male.
Every person that's standing in between total chaos and order is a white person.
And so I don't know how else to show the elite.
It's not really the black people on the street.
It's more so the elites of America, the Jews and some of the white traders, the white bourgeoisie.
Those are the ones that really play into the white privilege.
The white males are oppressing us narrative.
And so my trump card with that is like, well, if that's true, you organize your own communities.
You, you know, let's get some hipsters to be the police in the Ritzy part of Los Angeles or New York.
Let's get Jews to be the EMTs and have to deal with these insane people.
You know, we really are, it's like I said in my speech, all we have to do to break this machine is do nothing.
Just pick one day in the calendar and say, we're not going to do anything today.
White strike.
If white men went on strike, or if we just said, hey, we're going to stop everything until things change, you know, it would get desperate pretty fast.
Just show a little bit of respect.
That's it.
I mean, look at how respect.
Look at how hard the economy was hit at the beginning of COVID, right?
And it's like, that was mostly white people not showing up to work because they were told not to.
Truckers and everything still going.
Now, just imagine if like all the white people stopped.
Yeah, exactly.
Like you see, actually, some of these post-white people places like Texas or California, you know, they're having blackouts.
You know, in Florida, for example, they had toxic water.
It was about to flood Tampa Bay.
You know, there's all these different problems that come with this.
Just imagine if white people got organized and said, listen, you need to respect us.
You need to provide us some dignity.
And you need to accept that we are the majority in this country and require some respect.
It doesn't mean we have to kill or oppress anyone for who they are, but you do need to have a little bit of deference and understand who keeps this country running.
And if you can do that, then that's a big statement.
Now, Gore, of course, I'm not organizing anything.
I'm not saying anything right now.
We're just talking about this, trying to start a debate.
You know, I mean, if you think, you know, Jonathan Greenblatt can make up for, you know, all the different services and important things that white people do in this country, more power to you.
Go join his team.
But I disagree with that.
And I think a lot of people in this country, if they were actually made to choose, would actually pick a white-run country.
Even some of these blacks and Mexicans and stuff, they would rather live.
Why are they here, right?
They have Africa.
That's all black people.
They don't want to go there.
They have Mexico, right?
Mexico is right across the border.
It's actually got nicer weather than a lot of America, but they still don't want to go there.
So clearly, the European element of America is what makes America an attractive place or made it an attractive place.
So we have to really emphasize that, I think.
My takeaway on that, I watched that video as well.
And how many times did they have to even tell the guy to get on the stretcher that they had to take him to the hospital?
Could you imagine being told that many times to do something by an authority figure?
I mean, if that was me or you, we would be thrown down onto that thing and strapped on it.
And they're reasoning with this guy like he's a two-year-old child.
Come on.
No, like he's one of their, like they're one of his boys.
They were talking to him, yo, dog.
Oh, yeah, I feel your dog.
That kind of shit.
You know what I mean?
Like that's, that's, that, that's what annoyed me the most about that video because I could, I mean, I could tell right away this dude was up to no good.
This when a black person repeatedly asks you to do something away from them, like, yo, can I just smoke a cigarette, yo?
Right.
Oh, yeah.
It is on.
It is on the highest clue right there.
I used to think that we were getting way more agitated about these interracial crimes than the average norm because we were marinating in our own circle of Twitter or other social media now telegram for most of us.
But the hits just keep coming.
I mean, from the Chauvin trial ongoing right now to the riots to the Marine sergeant or drill sergeant who got arrested for shoving a black guy who was creeping his neighborhood and touching women and like supposedly trying to steal a baby.
So, you know, we were really benefiting from the worse is better from an awakening standpoint.
We know it's absolutely horrible, but there's also a ton of injustice going on from the government and the prosecutors.
Like there's this guy from Queens, actually not too far from where I grew up.
And this guy, remember, remember Boomerine?
The Boomer Warren?
Well, he was, this happened last year in June during the Black Lives Matter riots.
This guy, 55-year-old man.
Apparently, these anarchists were in this part of Queens where, frankly, you just don't see these types of people there.
It's the first time I've ever seen them there.
And they had Black Lives Matter mural, and they're apparently throwing rocks as car.
So this guy stops his car and comes out with this claw contraption where he chases them down the street.
Oh, yeah, I saw that one too.
And then he got in his car and he drove on the sidewalk where they were fine and they ran away.
So anyway, they arrested him after that and they hit him with six counts of reckless driving, menacing, and so on.
You can make the argument that, okay, maybe getting your car, driving on the sidewalk where these leftists are is perhaps reckless driving.
Okay, you can make that argument.
However, just the other day, I heard that they're charging him now.
They're adding charges.
Nine charges of attempted murder.
So if he gets convicted on even some of that, he's doing 30 years in prison.
Okay.
Now that is, now, of course, the prosecutor, who is it?
It's Melinda Katz, K-A-T-Z.
Oh, is she Jewish?
I think the cat's out of the bag on that one.
But this lady.
All right, Mr. Striker, you got a future in dad humor.
Yeah, he does.
Well, anyway, this man, you know, if you go to prison for 30 years at the age of 50, it's your life.
It's a life sentence.
And it's unfair because it wasn't attempted murder.
I mean, that's the equivalent of someone stopping their car and opening fire with a gun or something.
It's not the same thing, but they're doing it for political reasons.
And so I think that there's a lot of potential also for people getting together and raising legal fees for these guys, raising their bail, stuff like that.
There's a lot of potential for that to neutralize these activist prosecutors and their tactics to oppress whites.
That's what this is really about.
It's about the man's race.
He stopped and he said something about Black Lives Matter and they don't like it.
So it's this kind of stuff that I think is not only discrediting the judicial system, discrediting the U.S. government, discrediting all the ruling institutions, but it's also the injustice is what radicalizes people towards looking for politics that are not just the same old conservative stuff.
And I think they're making huge mistakes here.
And one last thing, Jonathan Greenblatt picking a fight with Tucker.
What's he thinking?
What is he thinking?
Does he think that two-pure hubris?
Yeah, I mean, you think, you think this is a good, let's talk about the ADL real quick.
You know, are they just so used to getting whatever they want that they've become that absolutely tone-deaf?
Because usually they do a little bit of a two-step, you know, a push and then they recede and let the pressure return to normal.
But they're so over the top now, and he's just so hideous and offensive to begin with.
He's like a Nietzschean.
He's like, I think Tucker needs to be off the air.
And he's going on CNN doing that.
Now, now, now everyone knows that woke capitalism, cancel culture, all these kind of talking points that have so far eluded the Jewish question.
Now people realize, wait a second, the ADL is behind all of this.
They floated under the radar until now.
So what is he thinking?
I don't know.
Well, he just watched the Sopranos and he was like, man, Shloma really does get it whatever he wants.
Yeah, I mean, they, they're, you know, I think one day, if it ever does become 110 in America, people will look back at Jonathan Greenblatt as one of the people that provoked mass wide-scale anti-Jewish sentiment in America.
Because just because he lives in a Jewish echo chamber where 99% of people want things like Trump being impeached or, you know, censoring all election fraud thing or even getting Donald Trump off the internet, that's not the opinion of the majority of Americans, whatever you might think of Trump.
A majority of Americans like Trump on some level.
Are you saying that we're going to have to build a statue to Jonathan Greenblatt someday?
Yes, I think so.
I'm glad.
I applaud him.
I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.
No, the average person can now see it.
You can strike up a conversation with just about anybody, and everybody can see what's the narrative of that video with black dude we were talking about.
What's the narrative with Jonathan Greenblatt?
It's evident.
Striker, I got a real, real, real quick, real quick personal story I wanted to share.
Not less than maybe eight hours after you gave your speech in which White Strike was mentioned, I got pulled over on the way home by a state trooper who was straight out of central casting.
This dude had a rock jaw.
He marched to the side.
Now, first off, I wasn't going that fast.
As he put on his lights, what did I do?
I put on my blinker and pulled over to the side of the road like a civilized man.
I even remembered to put my hands on the wheel, had my license and my registration ready to go.
And he just looks in the car.
He's glaring like a Terminator.
And I said, hello, sir.
He said, caught you doing whatever it was, 60 and a 50.
Gave him my stuff.
I said, thank you.
Here you go.
I was very respectful.
Always have been.
I've actually had good interactions with the cops.
He goes back to his car.
He said, it'll take me a couple of minutes.
I know, right?
You didn't just fight him.
Yeah.
If you beat them, you win, right?
Like, yeah.
You beat them, you just get away from them.
If you get away from them, they're not chasing you anymore.
That's that's the mentality.
Yeah.
He came back a couple minutes later, gave me a warning.
He said, Slow down.
I said, Thank you for your time.
Now, here's the thing: I was disheveled in my big truck because we camped out after NJP in the rainy woods.
I had my USS Liberty cap on, and I think maybe that played a factor, or it was actual white privilege.
Or he thought you were Puerto Rican.
But anyway, it was like a little example.
Whatever happened.
I'll tell you what, though.
Pops, I've talked to people that are in law enforcement about this.
They're actually, depending on where you live, more likely to pull over a white person than a black person for speeding out.
Because they understand that if they pull over a black person, it could turn into something that ends up with them going to prison.
White people pay their tickets, too.
I don't feel like getting into a fight tonight, so I have to pull over whitey.
Yeah, that's exactly their calculation.
And, you know, again, I'm not, you shouldn't break the law and you should be as polite as possible and so on.
But I'm saying the fact that black people cause such ruckus is one of the reasons why they don't get stopped as much anymore in many places.
So they have these really nice cost masks.
You know, they're like silicone.
They look like real people.
And I just have one of Obama and I drive around with that on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Stryker, so the videos are coming out soon.
And yeah, everybody in the audience knows about national life injustice, but what's popping there?
You got any other big ones in the hopper?
It's been a little slow this week because I've just been busy with stuff and also the Saratogin fall from after a big event and stuff, you know.
So I've been a little tired and stuff.
But I have some great articles in the pipeline.
Let me just look real quick to see what we have on the agenda.
I got something.
You have a whiteboard that shows the percentage of the Jewish population of the United States in your I've got something about how the FBI is fighting 9-11 families to hide a report on the Saudi role in 9-11.
I have something about, you know, I actually have quite a few things, but ultimately, I'm also very interested in talking about the Shelvin case.
I'm going to do a little write-up on that.
I just feel sometimes that so many people are doing it that it's kind of redundant.
But I've heard some people complain that there's no nationalist perspective on this.
So I'll see you to get something like that out.
And also, one other thing, we're going to start updating next week.
We're going to start updating the National Justice Party site more.
Me and Warren Bailog and Mike are going to be writing one article a week for it.
So stay tuned for that.
Excellent.
If you need a good editor, Stryker, I know a guy.
So we'll talk about that off there.
Stryker, I like when your site, or any site, of course, but I like when you have an article that lists a prominent antifa by name.
I think that's valuable.
Oh, and that's another thing I've been meaning to write about: anti-fash Gordon, probably one of the top doxers, has been canceled by other people on the left.
I saw that.
That's on the out.
You hate to see it.
Redroof me on that because I actually missed that.
So what happened was that apparently he's been like harassing trannies.
Like he's trying to, you know, but not, not, yeah, no, the other type of harassment, sexual harassment.
And he's also basically making a lot of money.
So Anti-Fash Gordon is Jewish.
It's a guy named Christian Exo.
He's a Jewish guy and he's teamed up with other Jews like Talia Levine and this other woman, Talia Jane, who's like basically an actual Israeli.
And they're kind of making a lot of money from this Antifa stuff.
And they're locking out all the hardcore anarchists.
So they're getting really rich doing this Antifa stuff and they're not sharing.
And so what I've heard through the pipeline also through my sources is that Anti-Fash Gordon also has some very strange sexual proclivities that are getting him in trouble behind the scenes.
And for an transvestite anarchist to be freaked out by your sexual proclivities, yeah, it's just decapitated head, Stryker.
Come on, don't be such a person.
Yeah, so he's just a creep, as you can imagine.
Not just animals, but dead animals.
Isolate that Mr. Producer.
Yeah, indeed.
So it's all good news all around.
You know, there's a lot of good stuff happening right now with these people.
And I think that things are starting to turn around a little bit in the pipeline.
Hell yeah, baby.
You're a national treasure.
Oh, thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
I forget if I said this on the show before, but I had not met you when I first, somebody told me that you were at a party and dancing around a fire saying, We're going to defeat Zog.
And I was like, I don't know who this guy is, but I like him.
Yeah.
All right.
Hey, Stryker, you're welcome to stay on as long as you want or pop back in later, but appreciate you coming on right at the top.
We'll bump those speeches when they're out.
Keep up the good work, stay safe, and come on, get those boys rolling.
I think you're, you know, we got to get one little baby out of you in the next year or two.
Come on, you can do it.
All right, all right.
Oh, yeah, it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood to make new white life.
What's in the land of make-believe at Coke?
You have like Gestapo?
King Friday's got a 40 in his hand and like King Friday from the movie Friday.
Yeah.
Oh, fantastic.
I can stay on for another 20 minutes or so.
So you guys just move on to the next.
All right.
Yeah.
Good.
Good stuff.
All right.
Well, next up from our all-star roster, we're delighted to have him back on Full House.
America's, I would say, well, he's America's favorite dog for some segment of our movement.
But this is a very special moment to have Borzoi on because Borzoi, go ahead.
You shared it on Telegram earlier today, but have at it, buddy.
Yeah.
And by the way, Mr. Eker, my wife, she's said this multiple times.
She credits your speech as putting her into labor.
I'm a bit skeptical about that.
I think there were other contributing factors, but I'll let you have this one.
Thank you, boys.
I appreciate that.
Your wife is so sweet.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, I can, I feel like I can accept the congratulations now since we're finally out of the woods.
Oh, the week, the week I've had.
All right.
So, Borzoi, assuming that nobody heard your voicemail on Telegram today and let the audience know how it went, big guy.
Yeah, well, okay.
So, my wife almost, and this is not a joke.
I mean, I can kind of like look back and love it.
My wife literally almost died.
So, it's been a long week for me.
I'll tell the story.
I told pieces of it on post, and we kind of alluded to it on Telegram.
My wife wants to come on the show as well to give the full kind of background.
I'll give the truncade version of it.
So, we were, if people don't know, we were doing a home birth.
We had a midwife and everything.
My wife, being a nurse, is very skeptical of the medical industrial system because she's seen it firsthand for over a decade.
So, she knows what hospitals are like.
Industrial machine.
Yeah, she knows what hospitals are like.
She had no interest in having a hospital birth to the protest of family members, but we were dead set on it.
What you need to know, though, is my wife had a germ cell tumor when she was like six years old or so, which resulted in her only having a single ovary.
In fact, she had to be on hormone replacement therapy because just because from puberty, she never had a normal functioning reproductive system.
So, even her doctor didn't think he thought that there was a strong chance she can't get pregnant just because of she just never functioned correctly the way it was supposed to.
But she got pregnant pretty quickly.
So, we did this home birth.
And we probably should have done a little bit more homework in hindsight as she went into labor for 19, almost 24 hours before when my mom finally said, because my mom was here for all this.
My mom said, We need to go to the hospital because it just, I'm not going to get into the, we'll tell the full story another time, but it just wasn't working.
And my wife was basically, she was going into a fugue stage.
She was hallucinating.
So my mom drove us to the hospital.
And by the time she got there, my wife was screaming in pain in absolute agony, just doubled over.
And I'm paralyzed, not sure there's nothing I can do.
But she's in the hands of nurses and doctors now.
And she basically agreed.
I can't remember if she begged them or just was more than happy to agree to just do a C-section.
So as soon as they got the painkillers in her, she was fine and her mood elevated a little bit, but did the C-section, had our baby, and everything seemed really nice.
It's like, okay, this didn't go the way we expected it would go, but we're here.
Our baby's here.
We'll spend a couple days in the hospital.
Life is good.
I had been up for 28 hours by that point.
And I just look at her.
It's like, babe, I feel like everything's fine now.
I'm going to go home and get some sleep.
And I'll come back in the evening and I'll, you know, and we'll, you, me and baby, we'll spend some time together.
And she women, women love it, Borzoi, after they've given birth and you, you look at, look them in the eyes and you say, you don't, and you say to them, you say, I don't, you don't know how hard that was for me.
I was complaining about how bad my back hurt because I had basically been deadlifting her to try and help with the birth.
And, you know, now that's holding me, now that I was holding my son in an awkward position, my back was like really starting to shoot up in pain.
No, I'm socially awkward, and my wife has just come to understand that.
She knows what I mean, even though it doesn't come out correctly.
How long between the time that you left the house when you knew that she was an extremist to when the baby arrived?
How close a call was this?
What do you mean?
Like you let you like some, it was clear that the home birth was not going to be smooth sailing.
How long from that point when you were like, we're going to the hospital until the baby arrives?
Well, I mean, things seem bad by four o'clock in the morning.
And I wasn't sure what to do because the midwife had two assistants here.
So I'm thinking like they, I don't, I'm, I'm a man.
I don't know anything about childbirth.
They seem to not be concerned.
So I get it's one of those situations where childbirth is supposed to be painful.
I don't really know anything about the situation.
The midwife doesn't seem concerned.
I guess this is okay, even though I was a little bit uncomfortable with it.
And it was my mom.
Like I said, my mom, my wife's father literally credits my mother with saving my wife's life.
In fact, to the point that my father-in-law sent flowers to my mother for, but we'll get to that in a second here.
And so yeah, my mother insisted that we have to go to the hospital.
So we go there.
And everything's fine.
Baby's born.
Baby feeds for like 40 minutes and everything.
Like it just seems like everything's fine.
So I go home and I plan on getting some sleep.
My phone was kind of dying by that point.
I had it on silent.
And I was just convinced that things were going to be fine.
So I didn't, like I said, phone on silent.
And then I woke up to 1% on battery and my mother pounding on the door of our home.
Good start, Borzo.
I cracked a couple cold ones.
She got some shut eye.
Five o'clock in the evening, my mother banging on my door and telling me that my wife is in surgery.
He's like, and I look at my phone.
I have 13 missed calls, most of them from my dad, actually.
13 missed calls.
I have a voicemail from my wife where she's like, Hey, hey, babe, there's just some bleeding issues.
I'm going into surgery.
She just seems very non-plussed about the whole thing.
And my mother is freaking out, or not freaking out, she's just concerned.
And so I just throw some clothes on.
I still haven't showered.
I haven't slept well either.
Day that ends in Y for you.
Yeah, go ahead.
I drive there, and it takes me about within the hospital system.
It takes me three tries to even get to somebody who can explain to me what's going on.
And I'm mostly in a daze and I'm also kind of autistic.
So when the doctor finally talked to me and she's explaining to me what's happening with my wife, I'm just kind of just standing there very stoically processing it.
And she eventually stops and asks, Do you have a background in medicine?
And I said, no.
I mean, my wife's a nurse.
So I mean, I understand what you're saying.
I think she was justn't sure, was kind of shocked at how I was very stoic about the whole thing.
She didn't understand that I'm just kind of socially awkward and autistic sometimes.
You had a PhD in racism.
But what I found out was a couple hours after I left, my wife basically lost all of her blood.
It turned out that, going back to why I mentioned the germ cell tumor, when my wife had a germ cell tumor when she was a kid and they removed one of her ovaries, the surgery and the radiation had basically put all of her organs, had rearranged her organs and also had made her uterus very thin.
That's why it doesn't matter how long we had done the home birth, she was always going to need a C-section.
Her uterus just was too weak to be able to push out the baby.
And because we had kept on insisting on trying to do the home birth, her womb possibly got infected and she also was just bleeding a lot.
She was bleeding profusely to the point they had to replace all of her blood.
And the doctors had were in a rush to try and come up options where, like, we want they wanted her to be able to have more kids, obviously.
So they're trying to come up with conservative solution where they're trying to basically save her, save her reproductive organs as much as possible.
And she just told them, I would rather be alive with no uterus than be dead with one.
Do what you need to do.
Selfish, selfish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she had to get an emergency hysterectomy.
And the, I mean, then thing, then she ended up having some blockage as well.
And there were some other things that came up.
Today, I would say is the first day she finally felt good.
She was able to walk for the first time in days.
So and easily get to our now.
The baby's fine.
The baby throughout all of this, they did put him on antibiotics just because he was in the womb when it was possibly infected.
So they did that as a precaution, but he's perfectly healthy, perfectly fine.
There's nothing wrong with him.
And so mom and baby will be together tomorrow now, now that everybody's, we're out of the woods.
So what a journey, Borzoik.
Congratulations and condolences on both.
I assume you're emphasizing the positive now and not crying into your beer about.
Well, no, this was our miracle baby.
The thing is, when my wife got pregnant, her doctor, because she, so she, my wife had a device that basically had helped her to regulate hormones and get her the proper hormones.
So, in order, when, so when, when we decided, like, hey, we're going to get together, we want to have a family together, she, that was a choice she had to make.
She was not going to get pregnant without making that choice.
So, her, she had to get the device removed, and her doctor told her, Hey, there's a good, there's a good chance you'll never get pregnant.
And if you, even if you do, it's going to take a while.
She got pregnant within two weeks.
And I kind of took that as a sign at the time.
And I kind of take it as a sign now.
It's like, hey, this is your miracle baby.
This is the one you get.
Got your blessings.
Yeah.
And he's perfect.
Like I said, he's just this amazing, perfect little baby.
It's, it's, um, it's a beautiful thing.
So, I mean, we'll probably, it may come down, we may end up, you know, grieving a little bit down the road about what could be.
But the thing is, like, I also am not, I am very pro-adoption.
My grandfather was, was adopted himself.
So I've never, I, I know, I understand the issues some people have with adoption, but I don't, I don't because it's in my family.
It's my family as my family has had fertility issues, and so they've always been very pro-adoption.
So if we want more kids, we'll find, we'll find a way.
It's a serious situation.
And thank God, you know, you could have lost your wife and the baby.
So, you know, that's, that's the great thing from this story.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, Borzoi, we're going to have you and your wife on when she's recovered and feeling up to it.
That was a really nice voicemail that she left that she wanted to come on and tell the story.
And just as a teaser, she did reference the fact that a lot of people in our cause are very trad and do home birth and don't trust modern medicine.
But obviously, a cautionary tale for higher risk pregnancies.
And when something goes wrong, yes, we do often run to the ER.
There's nothing wrong with home birth, but it's not going to be right for everybody.
The simple fact is the hard, bitter truth is 100 years ago, my wife would have been a statistic.
It just, even, even in the 1920s, death and childbirth was still common enough that people weren't shocked when it happened.
That's the simple fact of the thing.
So people have sometimes strawmanned my position on technology.
I don't have an issue with technology.
It's the CPTFO.
Yeah.
It's the technology.
It's what's called technique that I have an issue with that I think we can critique.
But there's a way.
I just think there's a better way to integrate the advances we're making with the things in the past that work.
You can have both.
You just have to have the right view on it.
Borzoi, you may recall me talking about in the past that all of my children were born with midwives.
With midwits.
With midwives, but it was in the hospital in what was called the alternative birthing chamber.
So it looks just like a comfy room, a hotel room or something.
They have a rocking chair and a recliner and just very the default now.
Is it?
Yeah.
They make it very comfortable.
Every room has pull-out couches.
Yeah.
They got TVs.
Even the lighting and everything.
It's really, it is like a hotel room.
Yeah.
And the funny thing is that the doctors and the nurses at our hospital are very kind.
They actually don't have an issue with the midwives.
They actually said to her, I wish you had just talked to us about it.
We would have set you up with a midwife within our hospital system.
And we don't blame our midwife for what happened.
Because I've examined the chain of everything that has happened.
There were mistakes along the way.
In fact, actually, even the doctors made mistakes.
Because when they did the C-section, they weren't sure what to think about the fact that her bladder was attached to her uterus.
And that was the result of the stuff from the germ cell tumor.
There were mistakes made by pretty much every person along the way.
So I don't blame the midwife for that stuff.
But we should have taken better precautions on what her health history was.
The fact is that she was always going to need a C-section.
We were always going to end up at this point.
We could have just made smarter decisions.
And maybe we could have, maybe the emergency hysterectomy could have been avoided, but I don't think in that way.
In fact, actually, I guess this is for the Catholics out there.
I discovered a saint that both my wife and I now cherish because I was kind of, I was wondering, is there a patron saint of hysterectomies?
And as it turns out, there actually is.
St. John Amola, who is actually a 20th century patron saint.
I think, I can't remember.
She was a doctor herself.
St. John Avovo?
St. John Amola or Gianna Mola.
She was a doctor.
I believe she was a doctor, but she did a lot of care for the elderly as well.
But her fourth child, if they wanted to basically do an abortion or some other method to save her life, but she chose to have her fourth child, which she knew was going to end her life, then terminate that pregnancy in any way.
And because of her other work, she was within the last, it was within the last 15 years, she was canonized as a saint.
I would say, Borzoi, that you and your wife shouldn't worry about all that long-term stuff and just enjoy your baby in the moment.
Enjoy your blessing, you know?
Well, no, we are.
I'm just autistic and I find these things interesting.
Don't pay any mind to that stuff.
I mean, we'll figure it out down the line.
Just live right now.
Live right now and enjoy your baby.
You finally get to see your baby for the first time, which must be quite amazing for you after waiting this long, no?
Oh, yeah.
No, he looks, and he looks a lot like me, too.
Oh, the poor baby.
He's got to grab my wife's beauty.
Come on.
How many tragedies are you going to bring on this phone?
I'm fucking up.
Hey, Borzoi, congratulations, buddy.
Hang out for as long as you want.
If you want to go catch up on sleep, I guess we'll permit it.
And yeah, we'll have you on as soon as wifey's feeling better to do a full show, talk about the experience and what it means for going forward, knowing that in all likelihood, well, almost certainly 100% you have an only child.
You're going to be going that route.
So God bless you, brother.
All right.
Take care, guys.
I'm going to tip out.
All right, brother.
Thanks, buddy.
All right.
Next up, have you ever seen Thomas Sewell and Stryker in the same room?
Probably not, but not bad here tonight on Full House.
Thomas, how are you, buddy?
Yeah.
When was the last time we talked?
Was I, did I get arrested?
It was right after.
It was after you were arrested.
After, okay.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, we haven't really had that rough of a time.
Everything's just speeding up so quickly.
I mean, we're at the point now where we did a submission.
Sorry to change the subject so much.
I actually really enjoyed the chat about the natural child burden and all that sort of stuff.
But yeah, geez.
Yeah, we did a submission to a parliamentary inquiry into extremism, which is the new word that they're using to describe anyone sort of advocating against racial replacement.
And it's their little cute little way of saying, if you don't agree with your racial replacement, you're a terrorist.
And instead of just outright calling you a terrorist, we're going to call you an extremist, which is like a stepping stone to then calling you a terrorist.
It's like you're on the path to being a terrorist.
And that's the sort of language.
Hold on, I got a mute telegram.
And so we did a submission.
Two of the guys wrote up a really, really good submission.
I don't know.
I've shared it on my page.
I don't know if you've seen it, but it's also on the National Socialist Network page.
And the inquiry said that anyone from the public could put a submission forward as to their opinion on the matter and that it could be read out as an actual accepted submission to this inquiry.
And the purpose of the inquiry is obviously to prescribe political organizations in Australia as extremist or terrorist or criminal organizations.
That's the goal that they're trying to set out.
And basically every single person on the panel, there's like 11 senators on the panel.
And we did some research onto all of them.
And I think eight of them are either Jews or have directly gone on Jew-led like training camps over in Israel.
I can't remember the name.
It's something fucking ridiculous.
It's like it's some ridiculous Zionist training camp.
And it's called like Amhab or something.
And it's run by the Jewish lobbies.
And the other three, there's one boomer, and then there's two like just rabid communists that want us all locked up in jail.
So it's the most balanced panel of senators you could possibly imagine.
And yeah, we did a submission and it didn't even.
What's that?
Okay, sorry.
I'm reading the chat.
Go ahead, buddy.
It's a little choppy for us.
If it's choppy in DLive, let us know in the comments there.
But it may just be our individual condition.
Sounds good to me.
Yeah, it's good to me.
Okay, good.
Good.
Yeah, so we put a submission forward as well as many other people.
And they didn't even, they literally pretended the submission didn't exist.
So there's no right-wing groups really in Australia.
There's no one's really under threat of prescription in this country except maybe the Proud Boys and us, but the Proud Boys don't really count.
And so the whole inquiry is basically to shut us up.
It's to shut us down.
Like there's no ifs, buts, and maybes about it.
It's simply we've been around for like publicly for about a year now.
And we've caused that much controversy in just a year and that much media attention and that much Jewish tears that, you know, obviously the Jewish lobbies have just been whinging and crying to the government so hard to get us shut down that they've actually managed to get a senate inquiry.
And this just shows the power that the Jews have, even in an outpost out in Australia.
And they didn't even accept our submission to the inquiry as correspondent.
So they literally pretended it didn't exist because there's sort of like three levels of acceptance.
There's accepting it as an actual actual material that the senators will read and the public will read out.
So the public can have access to.
Then you've got what's called correspondence, which is where it just goes in with the big pool of data that any member of the public can go and have a look at.
And any senator could look at, but it's not taken as official correspondence.
It's not taken officially on board as material that will help construct an outcome.
And then the third option is just to pretend that the submission doesn't exist.
And that's what they've done.
So, we've released that submission publicly.
And I suggest everyone have a read of it to see what our responses are to what the government is doing and the fact that the government literally has just ignored our existence.
And it just shows that, you know, all of this is a farce.
We already know this, but we just want to point this out to the public as clearly and plainly as possible: that democracy is just a Jewish tyranny.
It's a complete farce.
They pretend that we're in a liberal democracy and that everyone's entitled to opinion.
But what they're really saying is, if you go outside of this boundary, we're going to pretend you don't, we're going to ban you and we're going to pretend your correspondence doesn't exist.
So you don't even have a voice in the subject of whether you're banned or not.
So your opinions don't matter.
And what you say you're doing doesn't matter.
So it's basically like a Nuremberg trial, sort of.
It's like a Nuremberg trial, but you're not even present.
You've already been executed.
Yeah.
In America, it's very similar.
There's a lawsuit.
I'm sure you know about this, the Charlottesville lawsuit.
Here, the Zionists operate more so in the private sphere.
So the government in America is just kind of like a Potemkin government.
It doesn't really have much power.
So all the decisions in society are made by these private, non-governmental organizations, or as I call them, non-Gentile organizations.
And they go out there and they sue people.
They lobby to get people deplatformed, even Trump.
And, you know, you look at something like the Charlottesville lawsuit.
This lawsuit's been going on for three and a half years.
At this point, if you can't make your case after almost four years, drop the lawsuit.
It's just harassment.
But in your case, I know that in Australia, I was looking at some of the legal precedents there.
There have been Supreme Court cases in Australia that say that the right to free speech is not guaranteed by the Australian Constitution, right?
It's very complicated.
It's not as explicit as in your country.
We don't have a First Amendment, but we do have something called Section 109 of the Constitution, which gives freedom of expression and religion.
So it's a real gray area because it's like, what do you define as religion?
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, if you're doing Judaism is just a political strategy for taking over different countries.
You can argue that it's political.
You can't separate the two.
And anyone that says that you can doesn't understand what a religion is.
Exactly.
No, yeah.
It seems like you guys are having a tough time.
Do you have like decent lawyers and stuff there?
Yeah, but decent lawyers are very expensive.
Yeah.
Thomas, I wanted to give you kudos because we've had a lot of guests on the show and they've been great overwhelmingly.
And I'm, you know, despite people calling me the Mr. Rogers of white nationalism, I'm fairly hardcore myself.
I've seen enough.
I don't need somebody to give me a pep talk.
But when you came on, your no-nonsense, straight-ahead, no cucking on optics or anything else for that matter was a shot in the arm for me, which was a real treat.
So I just wanted to say from the audience, perhaps, and we got a lot of great feedback on that.
Obviously, the listens went up because we brought in all your boys from down under.
Being strong like that, I'm sure you know this, but the audience can learn from that too.
Just being strong and unapologetic and not fearful in any sense.
Like you said, like they may try to kill us one day.
Okay.
That's not going to change my calculus.
I'll take precautions, of course.
But yeah, bless you for that and keep at it.
And yeah, let us know how we can help.
Have some donation stuff up on your site and anything else you want to chime in here.
Yeah.
Well, before I go on, the striker, that's Eric Stryker, is it?
Yeah.
Well, awesome.
That's what a pleasure.
What an honor to be on the channel with you.
Yeah, I've never spoken.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
It's good to see.
I did enjoy some of the videos, like, you know, the little incident where you had to defend yourself.
That stuff is fantastic.
But I will say this, and this isn't to cook.
I will say this.
Try and raise some money for lawyers.
Because if you know anything about how our societies function in the Anglosphere, the power is in the courts.
So you have to hold the street to a point, but you also, this is something we learned here in America over the last four years, is that power in the courts, having being really uncompromising.
I know it's really lame in some sense, but being really uncompromising with your lawyers and really pushing in the courts, following lawsuits.
Hey, you're defaming me.
You're calling me a terrorist.
I'm not sure what Australian defamation laws are like, but I'm sure they're much, much stronger than in America.
If someone is calling you a terrorist and they don't have any actual proof, maybe it's time to raise some money, dragging the court over that.
That's exactly what we're doing at the moment.
So we're networking in with some other organizations and we've raised about 10 grand so far for my legal defense.
And we're still raising money.
There's still money coming in.
I think someone donated like $1,000 to us recently just in a one-off, which was amazing.
And while we're doing all this stuff, we don't have the time to do the defamation stuff, but it's certainly on the timeline.
And it's certainly something I've already had a few discussions with some very high, like we have something called a QC, a Queen's Council, which is like the highest level of lawyer.
It's like a Supreme Court lawyer.
And I've already had discussions with some QCs around defamation law because, yeah, like these companies were outright calling us, like, I think it's Channel 9 and a few other news companies were outright calling us a new breed of terrorists.
And so we've got all the evidence of that.
And so, yeah, these companies, the chutspah of these, of these private companies, it's just unbelievable to be shaping, trying to shape public opinion like that.
But I do believe that they are going to be protected by the courts and the state, but it is still certainly a path that we're going to go down.
Yeah.
You know, me and Mike, what we tell people is that, listen, there's a good chance you might lose.
I mean, there's 90% chance you'll lose.
But what happens is that when you challenge the court system and they refuse to uphold your rights, that discredits the institution.
Exactly.
And our struggle, the main priority is that we need to discredit the institutions of liberalism by testing them, seeing if they'll uphold our rights as citizens of these countries.
And when they don't, then we have something set in stone that says this is an illegitimate court system.
It's an illegitimate government.
And then we can go on from there.
Well, in the 1920s, all the way up through the probably 60s and even the 70s, communists lost a lot of court battles.
And ultimately, communists are just Jews.
But here we are today, right?
And Jonathan Greenblatt is our 45th president or whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, this is something we can talk smack about the Jews and how their behavior and so on, but they do think in increments.
They have the product that we see today, which is the United States of America, is a product that they have been working towards for at least 100 years.
The ACLU started it, you know, in 1962 when they got Christian prayer banned from the public schools.
They had to fight really hard.
The ACLU was the only organization willing to take this case up.
It was really unpopular.
It was essentially about six Jews had to put their names on the docket in terms of oppressing the Christian majority of the country.
All these different things.
And they're still ready and willing to do it.
And they actually succeeded after multiple tries.
So we have to keep trying to do it.
And eventually you will see results.
We see certain results starting to pan out now.
And the last thing, too, is putting information and political pressure on the phony right.
Now, that's not to transact with them, but rather to make it untenable for them to do anything but defend whites, even if it's just aesthetic.
We in America, now that we have Telegram blowing up, we're on a level playing field with some of these alt conservative types like Paul Joseph Watson and stuff like that.
We're on a level playing field now.
So we're part of the conversation, whether they like it or not, because they're banned from most social media.
So are we.
Now we're in these alternative spaces where we're not censored.
And so they are being forced increasingly to talk about things like the ADL, to talk about things like critical race theory, anti-white stuff, transgender stuff.
So this is a pure product of us.
You know, again, our narratives are getting through.
We just have to have patience.
That's it.
But we have to keep struggling, you know, that's it.
Well, I really agree with those three main points.
We need to focus on dismantling.
In your case, you need to dismantle the Republican Party.
That should be like one of the most primary.
If there were five goals of white nationalism in America, that would definitely be there.
That would probably be in the top three goals for white Americans.
You have to dismantle the fake right.
You have to dismantle the false conservatives, the false right.
And if you don't die before I do, then I am a failure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to destroy.
Like we have a fake right in our country.
It's so fake, it's actually called the Liberal Party.
Can you imagine that?
Oh, my God.
Center right party in Australia.
It's called the Liberal Party.
And it's, it's, you know, they don't even believe in like classical liberalism.
They don't even believe in the first and the second amendment, right?
So they're just, yeah, they're just a joke.
But conservatives are a conservative is basically a homosexual who's being a homosexual pedophile who's being blackmailed by Jews.
That's really what a conservative is.
They don't have any organic beliefs of their own.
They're constantly changing to yesterday's narrative from the left.
So yeah, in Australia, I'm sure, even though you have a parliamentary system there, right?
Yeah, we have like an upper house and lower house, which is like a we have senators that come from each state, and then we have ministers that come from each like district.
And a district is like within each state, there's probably like, I don't know, 20, 20 or 30 districts.
And so there's like, I think, seven senators per state or maybe 14, I can't remember.
Yeah.
And they're elected on.
So when you go to vote, you vote for your local district and you vote for a person from that district.
So it's like a district is like a collection of suburbs.
It's maybe like 20 or 30,000 people.
And then each district puts one person up, but then you also vote for the state as a whole and the seven people that get the most votes or four.
There's 14, I think, but they only do seven every election.
And yeah, the seven people that get the most votes take those seats.
So it's like, yeah, so it's two different systems.
And then they're like the checks and balances that you kind of have.
Yeah.
And it's called upper and lower house.
Yeah.
Oh, so you guys do have actually more potential than here in America to pressure the phony right through this parliamentary system.
Yeah.
Yeah, there is a lot of, I don't get involved in the actual political stuff.
In about 10 years' time, we might be capable to put pressure like actually politically, not just metapolitically, like actually start running independents or not because we believe there's a political solution, but to start smashing up and dismantling the system and to start breaking away power from the false right.
And because my goal, like I actually had a meeting recently with some guys in the Liberal Party and they're like old old jokers that want to leave and get out because they know about racial replacement.
They know the Jews have taken over the party.
And they say to me, the only reason why they're still in the party, and these are some, I won't mention names because we'll get them in trouble.
But, you know, these are very senior members.
And they basically said that the party is just completely taken over by Jews.
And it's like, yeah, well, I worked it out like 10 years ago, you know.
And these guys are like in their 60s and stuff.
And what my goal would be would be to completely dismantle that party.
And to, they even said themselves that we vote liberal last.
So when we do, I don't know how the American voting system works, but you do like a number, you know, there might be like five parties competing for like a Senate seat or whatever or a district seat, like a minister seat.
And you vote like one to five.
And so number one is obviously first preference and then number five is least preference.
And, you know, these guys are in the Liberal Party and they say, you know, that they vote liberal number five.
They put it behind the communist party, you know, like the Greens, which is like a fake communist party.
And they put it behind the Labour Party, which is like a center left party.
So yeah, it's, it's, our goal needs to be to, you know, like I was asked at a meeting once, about two years ago, and there was about 50 guys at the meeting, all white nationalists.
And after the meeting, I asked if there was any questions.
And one of the guys said, oh, who do we vote for?
Because there was an election coming up.
And I said, the Green Party, which is the Communist Party.
And everyone thought I was crazy.
Not everyone, all the solo boys knew exactly what I was saying, but this guy was a new guy.
He'd never come to a meeting before.
He's a white nationalist and he couldn't wrap his head around why we should vote for the Green Party.
And I said, put Labor and Liberal last, like put, especially the Liberal Party last.
We've got to just drain as many votes away from this possible so that it creates space.
It creates room for a legitimate alternative to the system.
There'd be space for a legitimate alternative if these Republicans or these Liberal Party people continue to get re-elected.
And so we have to make sure that the option is between, it's like in Greece, the option is between, in a lot of cases, between Golden Dawn or the coalition of the extreme far left.
And it's like, that's where it needs to be.
You need to put people in a position where they go, the center party or the center right party is not an alternative to the extreme far left.
And the only way to defeat the extreme far left is with, you know, obviously none of us agree with this left-right paradigm that they've put in front of us, but it's how I explain it to normies that don't, they can't comprehend 3D chess.
You know, the center right is just not an alternative.
And so you want to put the left in power.
You want to put these extreme radicals in power.
And I'm so glad that they stole the election of Trump.
We couldn't have had a better result in America than not just Trump winning the election and getting it stopped, not just having Biden as president, but having them fraudulently get Biden as president.
It's literally two birds with one stone.
It's beautiful.
Yeah, I mean, they're outraged.
Yeah.
But the system is not going to give up on this.
And there's two things that I'll say about it.
One is I saw there was like 160 rabbis spoke out against the ADL, and the Republican Party is trying to rebuild.
And you know what I mean?
Like they're trying to, you know, run like the dynasty stuff where they're going to like Trump 2024 or they're looking at like whatever Trump's son is or, you know what I mean?
Like they're looking at dynasty stuff the way that the Clintons and the Bushes did it.
And they're trying to create like a Republican Shaboist goi dynasty.
And that just needs to be smashed up.
We need to make sure that it's a complete flop, that it's like a complete, completely goes nowhere.
And everyone on the right just advocates against this fake, these fake Republicans.
Oh, yeah.
The more you withhold support from the GOP, the more, for lack of a better term, base they become.
So it seems that we have a pattern down here.
After they lost in Georgia, they lost the two Senate seats, which I've talked to people that are political consultants.
They were not expecting that.
That's usually a reliable victory for them.
And ever since that happened, there's talks, they're not going to release the autopsy to the public, but within the Republican Party, they realize that the reason they lost so badly in 2020, they were able to be defeated like that, is because they didn't get enough of the white vote by percentage.
And so they're going to have to deal with that while at the same time balancing the Jewish money that keeps the lights on at the GOP.
And it's going to be very interesting to watch.
But as I watch, I will withhold my vote and I will tell everyone I know to withhold their vote.
And we do that at TRS.
And I know that we're making some enemies in the kind of alt Republican establishment, kind of like the MAGA, alt MAGA types.
We're making some enemies there.
And that's too bad.
We're still not going to vote for the GOP.
Go to hell.
Go ahead.
You want more of the same.
Keep voting more of the same.
Yeah, you just have to explain to these people.
And I would suggest not just withholding vote, but actively voting for the Democrat Party.
I don't know if I go that far, but I see your point.
It's about heightening the contradictions.
You want them to have as much power and chutzpah and tenacity as possible because the more that they get, the more power they get.
They can't be stopped as the wrong term, but they can't slow down.
The more momentum they have behind them, the more crazy and insane shit they'll push.
And you need to explain to these Republican voters that the left are going to push for the destruction of white America really quickly.
And the conservatives are going to push for it just almost as quickly, but they're going to pretend that it's a legal process.
And so the only difference between the Jew left and the Jew right is the Jew left will do anything possible to dismantle white America.
And that means like illegal immigration and everything else.
And the right will create like a, you know, a crayon checklist at the border to make it seem like legal immigration.
Yeah.
That's, you know, this is one thing that I've talked about is that they say Obama or that Trump was elected because of white lash from Obama, right?
And what did Obama do?
He just went full Jewish left doing all of the things that made white people really angry.
And so Trump was elected.
He wasn't supposed to be.
We all know that.
The Republicans probably weren't even the ones that were supposed to win.
It was probably supposed to be Hillary Clinton.
And Trump was able to activate enough white people.
And white people were so mad about King Negro and all of the Jewish stuff that he was doing that they voted for Trump.
The people that had never voted before came out and voted for Trump.
And so now that we have Joe Biden doing more Jewish left stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans run a fake populist in 2024.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wins.
But every time that that happens.
We've got to make sure that doesn't happen.
Like we have to work so hard to make sure that it doesn't happen.
But even if it does, every time a fake populist is ran, ultimately thousands, if not millions of people go past the fake populist and into our camp the same way that it happened with Trump.
I mean, the alt-right in America basically exists because of Trump.
Whether that's comfortable to admit or not, like that's just the way that it worked.
I would say it was there before Trump, but Trump capitalized off of it and definitely caused it to grow.
That's for sure.
It was definitely there before Trump.
I mean, stuff was happening in 2015, 2014.
But yeah, it was Trump kind of caused it to cohere more.
And that's how you get like, you know, it kind of the zenith of that was Charlottesville, which some people say was a big problem or whatever.
But that's only if you look at it from the context of Trump.
Like, I don't personally care.
At that point, I don't really care if Trump was president anymore or if something was inconveniencing him.
I don't freaking care about that.
But yeah, Trump's campaign did kind of escalate white consciousness to a point in 2016.
By 2020, it was no longer true.
He ran a disastrous campaign.
I have actually, I actually do think he did lose fair and square.
We might disagree on that, but the point is that he didn't get the support he had in 2016 and the grassroots, and he didn't generate the excitement.
Well, the only issue that I take with that position is that he did get more votes than he did in 2016.
That's just because it was easier to vote.
Trump actually got the second most votes in American history in that election.
And it's because, frankly, it was really easy to vote.
You just send it through the mail.
And yes, there's probably fraud all over the place.
But I think that...
I mean, what's an election in America without fraud, though, right?
Well, who came?
Who really thinks you could count hundreds of millions of votes perfectly accurately?
I mean, does anything else in this country work well?
Why would that?
It's not so much that one side was stealing it from the other.
It's just that nothing in this country is functional because it's becoming a third world country.
So you're having third world problems like disputed elections.
It's not that hard to, in my opinion, to suss out.
Right.
Well, what I'll say before we move on to the next subject, I disagree that Trump helped build alt-right.
I think there's always going to be a populist candidate.
We're in a time where the contradictions are getting heightened and the right is moving slightly more to the right and the left is moving slightly more to the left.
So the, you know, 20, 30 years ago, what was the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats?
You know, they're both both against illegal immigration.
You know what I mean?
In Australia, the Liberal Party and Labour Party were basically identical.
Like it's a few like workplace reforms and that's what the schism was.
And what we're seeing over time is, as Mason calls it, the contradictions are getting heightened.
And it's a good thing.
And we want to encourage those contradictions.
We want to encourage the space between the parties.
And we cannot stop a populist candidate from running.
We cannot stop Trump 2024 from running.
We cannot stop Trump's son or some other shabboist Goyem running in 2024.
But what we can do is do everything we can to dismantle their success.
And the most important thing, in my opinion, to happen is they're going to run regardless.
So there is going to be that alternative.
If Trump had lost in 2016, I don't think we would be in a different position.
I thought we might be stronger.
Yeah, I think there's a chance that we would be stronger.
I don't think we would be in less of a position.
And the reason is because if there was a populist candidate that ran and lost, we would be four years ahead in a lot of our metapolitical change.
And when there's no political solution, when the populist candidate loses and the white population goes, well, our man isn't in the office, they then start looking at alternative meta-political strategies like community building, homesteading, you know, the meta-political organizations and stuff like that, or an alternative political party that's built on the same principle.
Well, so that you're basically operating under the assumption that a populist candidate runs but loses.
Now, if Trump had never run in 2016, I think we would not be.
Take care, everyone.
I got to run.
All right.
See you, Stryker.
All right.
Take care, folks.
Thank you, Stryker.
If Trump had not run in 2016, or if there's no populist candidate, then there is no foil to the Jewish left.
There's just the Democrat or the Republican Party.
I guess I could say Democratic Party.
What's the difference?
But you just have the Republican Party doing the same old gay Reagan stuff that they always do.
And so there's no foil.
There's no alternative.
White people don't get activated.
The key thing about Trump is that he activated a lot of white people that were apolitical.
They didn't like how things were, but they didn't know what to do about it.
They didn't know about populism.
They didn't have a way to express these things.
Right.
And so Trump objectively activated these people.
That's why he got so many people that were first-time voters.
And that's why he got the support that he got.
And so that's, I guess that's ultimately my point.
It's not that we necessarily needed Trump to win, but you have to have the foil to the Jewish left.
Now, ultimately, Trump was extremely shabbous, as we all know, but his campaign was incredible.
His campaign was almost pro-white, almost anti-Semitic.
And that was enough for us at the time.
It made it possible to have conversations in America that you could not otherwise have before.
Right, exactly.
And like, so I, I, you know, by the time Trump came on scene, uh, I was anti-Semitic.
I was all of these things, but I didn't have a community, right?
I didn't know where to go.
I was just in, you know, in an internet, internet ghetto, you know, going on 4chan and running a Facebook meme page, but I didn't know anybody.
And the 2016 campaign is what ultimately led me to finding the right stuff.
And, you know, now I've started a political vehicle with Stryker who was just on and Mike Pienovich.
You know, so it's like, you know, without Trump, I wouldn't be here.
The National Justice Party might not be here.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
You're right.
I'm not saying these people not to run.
I think that these people run, these candidates run because there is a market already present.
I don't think that they're changing the market.
They might be consolidating a little bit.
And yeah, I still stand by my statement.
Regarding the word popularism, people call me out on this stuff all the time.
Not the word populism, but I sometimes use words and I'll have like some autist on the internet and he'd be like, you shouldn't use that word.
That's an enemy word.
And so I hate it when people do it to me.
But I actually wrote an article about a year ago on the subject of like, what is the far right and like these terms that they construct like far right or popularism.
And I made a mention in this article that when they win, it's democracy, but then when we win, it's popularism.
And it's a very powerful tactic that they use.
And we should really avoid the word popularism because everyone that wins is popular, but they're trying to discredit our political victories as, well, they just did some cheeky little trick to become popular.
They're just like the popular kid at school.
They don't have a legitimate solution.
They're not a legitimate leader.
And it's very undermining.
And we do need, they keep saying that this party in Hungary, I think it's called the Justice Party, and it's run by that Orban guy.
And they keep saying he's a populist leader, a right-wing populist.
And it's like, what does that actually mean?
What?
Because he's voted in.
Well, so this kind of activates my autism.
And not to like spurk out on word definitions, but like populism is supposed to be supposed to be.
Now, obviously, they'll do whatever they want with it.
Political approach where basically you appeal to ordinary people who feel like their concerns aren't addressed, right?
So it's basically a third positionist type word.
It's akin to that where you feel like, okay, nobody in the establishment is representing me.
So I'm going to do this my own thing, basically.
And that's kind of how populism is supposed to be defined.
Of course.
Do you think it's okay?
That's reasonable.
Do you think it's being used that way, though?
By us, certainly.
By the establishment, of course not.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just think it's a very, yeah, okay.
Well, we can have that disagreement.
I just think it's a very dangerous word.
I would much prefer the word third position or alternative or yeah, anything but pop popularist.
I think it well, and if the Republicans are running, I would say if the Republicans are running somebody that is supposed to be cornering the market on nationalism, by your definition, that person is a populist because they don't mean it.
Yeah.
Yeah, to an extent.
Yeah.
That's a fair point.
Yeah, they're appealing.
Yeah, they're appealing to something that they don't truly believe.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
But I think we should be saying that these people are like false right, you know, or false nationalists, fake nationalists.
Right.
No, I agree.
Always call them out on their bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was.
All right, gentlemen.
Tom, I don't mean to cut you off, and please hang with us as long as you like, brother.
You're welcome here anytime.
Master, I've got some stuff to do.
So good stuff.
Yeah, I'm having a terrible time here, and I'm sorry.
So please stay.
Or if you got to run, we'll put them up for you at the end of the show.
Our new tradition.
I wanted to welcome in some very special and very patient guests here.
And we literally have all of our slots taken right now.
We're at full capacity.
So a warm welcome to, I don't know, the five amigos.
We'll call them Ahab, Towns, Apache, our very own Nathaniel Scott and Theo Ostro.
Welcome on Full House.
All right, I'll turn my camera on since I can't hear a damn thing anyway.
What's up, guys?
Have a good day.
I'm saluting right now.
All right.
Ahab, go ahead, brother.
Well, thanks, Coach, for having me on.
And congratulations to Full House, you, Smash Sam, your producer.
This is a great accomplishment.
You guys do a fantastic show, and it's an honor to be here.
And it's an honor to be here in the company of so many great men.
I mean, it's a testament to the place you hold in all of our hearts in this thing, not just in America, but around the world, that you could pull together the lineup that you pulled together tonight.
And before Tom leaves, I'll just say, Tom, it's good to see you.
We actually were going to do a modern politics coach with Tom right when everything was going on.
I was chatting with him, and then he got raided.
And then you had him on your show.
And I figured, okay, well, you already got the good interview out of the way.
Oh, we smell your thunder.
Sorry, no, no, no.
I'd still like to have you on at some point, Tom.
He and I have a very good mutual friend in Australia, an old comrade of mine who's a terrific National Socialist, one of the best National Socialist guys I've met in this whole thing.
And yeah, just mad respect for what you guys have been doing, the struggle you're undergoing there, and all these raids.
And, you know, to Stryker's point, I know he's not on anymore, but the thing about the legal battles, it's important, especially if you're taking a page out of George Lincoln Rockwell's book, which you seem to be doing in Australia.
I mean, the approach is very full-throated.
Rockwell had to fight all those legal battles here.
A lot of people don't know this.
He published a book shortly before he died.
Actually, I think he was in the process of writing it.
And it was published incomplete, but it's called something like Rules for Legal, Psychological and Political Warfare.
And it's all this.
Who brought that to the last meeting we had?
I think that Greg.
Greg Conte did, yeah.
And it's all basically like jailhouse lawyer type stuff, advice.
Walk in court.
Yeah, very basic for like the common man, but it's stuff that Rockwell learned because when he went to do his thing as the American Nazi Party, and then after that, the National Socialist White People's Party, he was constantly dealt with these legal challenges.
I mean, they would very often just say, well, you can't do it.
Like, it's against the law to parade around with a swastika.
And they would just forbid him from doing it.
And then he would have to sue or fight a legal battle over his constitutional right to do it.
And you could say that the space that we kind of have this impression that Rockwell, oh, that was the 50s, it was the 60s.
It was much easier for Rockwell in terms of we didn't have all these Jew judges and this multicultural society was more white.
But in fact, in some ways, the climate was harder back then because you have to remember that was at the height of the Cold War.
This country was filled with war veterans like Rockwell who had been, you know, seen their buddies killed by guys wearing swastikas.
And it was a much tougher country in a lot of ways.
So Rockwell, you know, he was up against some tough physical and legal battles.
And he had to carve out a space for himself legally in order to do what he did.
And that was very difficult for him to do.
And it was a series of lawsuits and legal battles.
There were times when he was arrested.
So it's, and I think no one has fought those battles since Rockwell.
And what's happened is the legal space has closed in around us since then.
So periodically, you have to do that again.
We have federal judges that are multi-generational Jewish judges, right?
Yeah.
And so some of these Jews, you know, they haven't been judges since Rockwell, but they've been, their grandmother was, or their grandfather, whatever, was a federal judge in the time of Rockwell.
So Rockwell, you know, he could no longer fight these legal battles at a certain point, obviously.
The only time that they let him, the only time that they will cite you in the history books of when, oh, the American Nazis or the American Nazi Party or Nazis were a great civil rights issue.
And then America, we pat ourselves on the back for giving them the right to free speech.
It was a NSWPP splinter group that was led by Collins, who was a Jew pedophile posing as a Nazi.
So he was an extreme freak who back then, you know, the guys knew, I mean, the broader movement knew that this guy was not a legit national socialist, that this guy was a bad actor and a Jewish, you know, there was all these rumors that he was Jewish and he was a pedophile.
And, you know, sometimes those accusations like that get hurled around when there's infighting.
But in this case, it was completely true.
But anyway, the system likes to hold that guy up as the one time that free speech was tested.
And America ruled that even if you're a hateful Nazi, like this Jewish pedophile, that you can be allowed to speak.
But it was Rockwell who actually fought a lot of these legal battles.
So it's important.
You know, something I say, Tom, let me just say, Smasher, it's something I've said sometimes is that the swastika flag, you know, there are problems with using it in a mass rally type sense because people don't understand what it means and they've been trained to think that it means the opposite of what it actually means.
But having said that, there are times when an overtly in-your-face Nazi National Socialist style or approach, the one thing about it is it tests the waters of what your legal rights are.
Like that's how you, when you go full NS, that's how you find the boundaries of what the legal system is willing to tolerate.
And if you operate within the law, as you guys are doing in Australia, but you take this full NS approach, it certainly shows, I mean, it's like a Rorschach test.
It exposes the systems, all the systems' pet peeves and psychologies and taboos and exactly what the system doesn't want you to do.
It really holds up your freedom to the light of day and shows you whether or not you actually have freedoms.
And in many cases, we find out that you don't, as you guys are finding out in Australia.
I mean, the guy had a little firecracker, like a children's toy, and they're accusing him of being like a bomb-making terrorist.
But yeah, I'll just on that, a couple other quick things I want to mention, Coach, before I forget.
Quick, you liar because I can't stay on too long.
I wanted to say 20 years later.
I wanted to say, first of all, it was great seeing most of you at the NJP thing over the weekend.
I can't wait for the speeches to come out.
It was great seeing Borzoi.
He is a very fine gentleman and his lovely wife.
And I can't believe this is the first time I'm hearing of this massive ordeal that they went through.
And that she is okay, that his son is okay.
And I just want to wish publicly my warmest congratulations to them both and just prayers of thanks that they got through all that all right.
And it's, you know, it's one of those stories that, again, I've been talking about this a lot lately: how this idea that a man with five o'clock shadow and wearing a tutu calls himself a woman.
That if you were a feminist, if you were a feminist in any kind of positive sense, I mean, for feminism to have any meaning, I mean, what is a white nationalist means?
It means you're pro-white, right?
So, what does a white pride mean?
Okay, so what does a feminist mean?
Well, we know what it means, but if you just didn't know what it means from the social context and you just broke it down to the way it sounds, you would say, well, that must mean you're pro-woman, right?
You have like woman pride if you're a woman.
So imagine the left devaluing the act of bringing a new life into the world and then holding up this, these freaking, I'm sorry, coach, I caught myself.
These individuals, mentally ill people who are men by biology, by nature, and insisting that they are women.
And this is the same movement that claims to be pro-woman or holding up women.
This is one of those people.
I don't know for a joke of like women are demons, but I don't feel comfortable saying that on a full house podcast.
Right.
Shut up, Theo.
I'm in the middle of my point.
I love you, man.
But I'm just saying, this is, it's, it's, it's so absurd and outrageous.
And these are the, I just did a thing, uh, Coach, on modern politics about this book by Shannon Swan called Countdown, talking about all the problems that a lot of it's chemical in our in our modern plastic capitalist society.
These problems with fertility, these problems with speaking of, I almost touched a receipt today.
Never touch receipts.
Don't touch receipts.
Yeah.
But it's a great book.
Genesis, estrogenic or something.
They make you a gay nigger.
Basically, that's it.
Basically, that's it.
The bug black is not just Stryker's imagination.
The bug black is if you synthesize Alex Jones's theory of the frogs becoming gay and Stryker's theory of the bug black, you basically have like the thesis of Shanna Swan's book, Countdown.
But the point is that it's like in an era when it's so hard to find someone in the first place to find a partner.
And even when you do, half the time people are put off having kids for, oh, well, I have Jewish debt payments I need to make.
You know, I'm not stable enough or I'm not in a sound enough financial position to have kids.
I have to pay off my usury first while the eggs are dying and the person is getting older.
It's so hard with all those other things.
But then just the act of childbirth is still, it's a battle.
And, you know, when my wife gave birth to our son, I really felt, and I told you this on, I think, on this show before, Coach, that I felt like I'm watching the female equivalent of like when a man goes to war.
This is the high point of what it means to be a woman.
This is the ultimate like crowning thing that a woman can do.
So, and that's an example of it, what Borzoi's wife went through.
So, again, warmest congratulations to them.
And without pausing for breath, the last point I wanted to make is I was in a very bad mood today because of this Ashley Babbitt thing, this guy not even getting charged, all this other stuff in the news.
No, they're not charging that fucking nigger.
They're not charging him.
He's not getting there's no charging.
Smasher is very excited about the new liberal N-word policies.
Don't abuse it, buddy.
Oh, well, yeah, yeah.
We put out a public service announcement, Ahab, that due to extenuating circumstances, we're still not allowing gratuitous profanity on the show.
But if someone drops the word nigger on this show, when it's appropriate and relevant, we're not going to.
Okay.
I will try to use it.
I will try to use it.
I will try to use it sparingly.
I will wait till it's really appropriate.
But these fucking niggers.
This thing that happened today, Coach, where CNN, our last, again, I was going to show modern politics.
I'm just going to do it throughout my whole monologue.
Our last one, it was a solo one by Emily.
And she did a whole thing debunking the, you know, that we all know, but she did the hard deep data about the idea that Asians are being, you know, victims, victimized by white supremacist terrorists.
Yeah.
Well, this Project Veritas video where the CNN reporter is literally saying, wow, lots of black people are committing all these crimes against Asians, and we can't, you know.
And then he's admitting that they're covering it up to help the Black Lives Matter narrative.
And when this is released, just like that, James O'Keefe gets deplatformed off Twitter.
I was horrendous in the moment.
I mean, I was like, I was ranting and raving and screaming to the rooftops.
I mean, my upstairs neighbors, I don't even know what they were thinking.
It was bad.
And then I got from a guy, most of you guys know him, the kid that makes the Race War the Galaxy trading card game.
They were at the NJP thing in November.
I got a package of his cards in the mail from him, actually, it was as a birthday present.
And he also included two of these CDs that are, he's working with Cyber Nazi, and they're the first actual CDs, like physical CDs that you can get from Cyber Nazis, like albums.
And I want to shield this because it put me in a tremendously good mood because the kid who makes these is a dear friend of mine and a wonderful family man and a good comrade.
And just he was at Charlottesville.
You guys know who I'm talking about.
But yeah, go to it's it's rawaga.com, like RaceWar Galaxy, R-A-W-A-G-A.com.
Check them out.
Maybe, maybe throw them some shekels, maybe get these cards.
They're phenomenal if you guys have seen them.
And the CDs are awesome too.
I know he helps design the physical CDs.
So that put me in a very good mood.
And I wanted to make sure I shielded that on your show tonight because it was great.
I bought it too for Junior, and then I was looking at the cards.
I said, ooh, boy, these are a little racy.
A couple of them are crazy.
Put it on ice there.
Yeah.
Ahab, I know you probably know this, but you are the most natural politician in NJP.
And I mean that in a good way, believe it or not, right?
You got the gift of gab and you're very sociable.
Fair warning, though, that the boss said he's going to come on at about 15 or 20 minutes, the chairman himself.
So before that happens, 15 minutes.
Well, that's enough time for Warren to send you like a 45-minute voice message.
I know.
We'll see.
But I wanted to go to these guys have been so patient, especially Apache and Towns.
Welcome, guys.
How the hell are you?
Two bachelors.
We're really stretching the rules here, but Apache came on for a special show, I don't know, six months ago on bug out bag planning.
And Townsend came on and that was over a year ago.
That was at the beginning of COVID.
Time has no meaning.
Well, yeah, the beginning of COVID was one year ago.
You said six months.
Did I say six months?
Oh, who's running this show?
I said a year ago.
Six months?
Yeah, one year ago.
Like I said, why are you saying a year ago?
Six months?
What do you mean a year ago?
18 months ago.
Oh, God.
Anyway, Apache, Towns, Theo, and Nat Scott, welcome.
Apache, go ahead, say something, brother.
I know you've been waiting a while.
Yeah.
Thanks, George.
Thanks for having me on.
And big, big congrats for the two-year anniversary of Full House.
Big congrats to you, Sam Smasher, and my buddy, Mr. Producer.
And I know Borzo's not on anymore, but I also wanted to extend my big congratulations to him and his lovely wife and everything they just went through.
And, but no, I was so happy and relieved to hear that they have a healthy, healthy little boy and everything's good on that front.
Right.
Borzoi got remember when people were thinking that Borzoi got honeypotted because his now wife reached out to him on the internet.
Well, she honeypotted him so strong, she gave him a son.
That's commitment to the cause.
All right.
That is up.
Yeah, go ahead.
Cover right there.
Yeah, no.
You guys have, I've just been listening this whole time.
You guys have had a great stream so far.
Really awesome lineup tonight with all the people you've had on.
I think it's a testament to what a great show you guys have built here and how much respect all of you guys have.
There is pretty much everything I've been thinking about talking about was already covered very well by people previously.
But yeah, I was also just thinking about the Project Veritas video that came out today that Warren or that Ahab had just mentioned, whatever, whichever, I think we're going by Warren now, right?
Yeah, you can call me Warren.
I just want time's sake.
I went for Ahab on the stream.
And I also used a good optics as a nod to AF there.
I don't know if you guys can see my red skull.
I put on the good optics.
Red skull.
Anyway, continue.
Yeah, but, you know, I think this is one of the best and most damning videos that James O'Keefe has come out with in a while.
You basically had a CNN anchor who seemed to be trying to, you know, bang some young girl and was like, Mike was kind of saying this on Telegram, and I had the same reaction, but he's sort of teetering around, like trying to impress this girl who sounds like she's in her early 20s and not giving too much away, but wanting to seem like he has this insider knowledge.
And basically, just confirmed what all of us have been saying for years about the media, which is that they were having trouble figuring out how to spin this anti-Asian thing.
Obviously, they want to prevent Asians from sort of allying with whites against blacks or against other races in this country.
They want to, you know, bring Asians into the people of color fold and they want to, for one thing, take the spotlight off of the anti-white hate crimes that are constantly happening every single day in this country.
I think that's one of the most glaring things about the whole anti-Asian thing that's going on right now is the fact that this is unfortunately the status quo for white people.
And it's been that way for years and probably even decades to the point where I like there's these, I don't remember the name, but there's these counts on Telegram that they will just document one of them is called Every Day, I think, and they go through every day of the year that some just horrendous, heinous crime has been committed by blacks against innocent white people.
And I mean, we see stories like this in the news every day, but obviously they're not going to talk about that.
So they're focusing the rise in crime and the fact that a lot of people are experiencing this at a higher level than most people are used to.
I think the homicide rate in this country went up 33% last year.
And that's primarily in the second half of the year after George Sloyd kicked off the summer-long riots.
But yeah, just to hear that guy on Project Veritas spell out everything we knew and say that they support BLM and they bolstered their narrative and they don't mention race.
They don't target individuals or groups by race unless they're white.
And just O'Keeffe has done a bunch of stuff.
He is talking about voter fraud.
He's done a bunch of different things.
But within probably 20 minutes after posting this particular video, this particular article on Twitter, he got banned.
And I think that really says it all in terms of what they're trying to shut down because this is extremely damning.
And yeah, also a good thing to just send to people in your life, people who may have listened to your rant and are like, all right, whatever, whatever, Apache, you know, you always talk about this stuff, but it's like, okay, it's right here.
The hits keep coming and you can plant seeds in people and they're going to call you crazy or look at you like you just puked on the table in front of them when you first break uh, break the ice with them and then yeah, can I ask uh Apache a question real quick?
No fire, mr Apache, what is it like for you now to be on telegram, like you're probably very used to watching your, watching your language on uh twitter, being the legend that you were on there?
Yeah, I mean telegram.
Uh, telegram is is like fantastic right now.
I mean, I think most people on this call are on there.
Um, most of my twitter bros uh, including Coach And Towns and a bunch of other people are are on there now and it feels like it not not quite because of the the sort of um having tweets go viral back in the day, like back around uh 2015 16, 17.
Um, and the Towns and I were actually talking about this earlier but the, the possibility to just reach people who weren't in our thing um obviously, I think Telegram is a little bit more cut off from that, but just the, the activity and and all the, all the good people uh, you know Warren your, your Telegram is one of my favorites by far.
Um but uh yeah it's, it's great.
And in terms of watching my language, I think i'm, I think i'm still sort of, because i've been on twitter for so long, i'm still sort of conditioned yeah, to to not uh, go to bad optics but um, i've been.
I will say this in terms of my actual language.
Uh, I haven't gone too crazy yet, but i've been.
I've been posting some some pretty spicy videos where i've uh, let others, others do the talking for me.
Yeah, and I wanted to give a hat tip to Apache AND Towns for the boon dispatch.
I listened to this on the way home from Njp, right before I was getting pulled over by a state trooper, but they did a show about the Zoomer generation and the many factors that go into them seeing the world differently than uh, every other generation.
Right, there's unique characteristics to every generation, including just the saturation of uh, dopamine and serotonin and from social media and the tablets and and down to kids and uh towns.
You were very thoughtful on that, but welcome back.
The only time you came on full house you talked about mushrooms on election night, if I recall correctly, when we were coasting thinking that Trump had it in the bag and uh, then they pulled it out from him.
Not that we really care, but uh, how are you?
Are you blaming the mushroom speech on Trump losing?
Is that what happened?
Just a coincidence.
Yeah.
But Towns, you are the most interesting man of the world.
So, you know, live up to your billing.
That's my degree.
Yeah.
I was going to make all the same points Ahab made.
He got them all out there.
So I don't know what else I have to say.
Yes.
He does that.
Okay.
Well, thanks, Towns.
Have a good night.
Well, okay.
So you really.
My audio is back to normal.
I'm back at back in the control panel.
It doesn't literally sound like Max Headroom.
I'm sitting here chewing on my lip, not being able to see what was going on.
Anyway, I'll stop belly aching.
But go ahead.
Towns, I think it's safe to say that there is a special someone in your life.
So let's do a little bit of, you know, dad stuff.
How's it going, big guy?
Fingers crossed, you're going for it?
Yeah.
We've been going for it for a little while, but it looks like we're going to have to do the old IVF.
And so I've spoken out a lot about fertility issues.
And like Warren mentioned, and like Smasher mentioned with the BPA and receipts, there really is chemical warfare that's affecting our people more than anything, causing these fertility problems.
And so it's like every guy I talk to on our side is doing IVF now.
And I don't know if you have looked into it, but there's tons of grants and organizations, but only if you're a young Jewish woman.
If you're a young Jewish woman, you're getting your IVF covered by a dozen different places.
But if you're in Lucknow, yeah, but yeah, if you're not, it's a real issue.
That's something I would love to see our wider movement do is try to start our own organizations to provide funding, right?
Everybody talks about Towns.
What are some?
Oh, go ahead.
No, I was going to say, what are some steps that young white men should take to protect their balls in all seriousness?
The things that might be poisoning them and decreasing their sperm count.
Sure.
I mean, one of the biggest ones that people are aware of is plastics, right?
Especially the microplastics that are caused by things being affected by heat.
Like even if you don't microwave food in plastic, you're not doing like the little take-home things from the Chinese food place.
Cups that you get from any gas station for like coffee, they're all covered in plastic.
That's what keeps the patrons.
Just don't have the reason to drink bang.
I'm not going to counter signal bang.
I mean, but water bottles too, like your water bottles sitting in your car, they get warm.
Anything like that, you surely just cut out all plastic from your life that you can.
That's one of the major things.
I mean, having your cell phone in your pocket is awful.
You know, if you ever read the little book that comes with your phone, it says your phone should be six inches away.
Yeah, Tom's got it.
Aluminum bottle all the way.
Cargo shorts are vindicated, finally.
Cargo shorts are vindicated.
I was trying to start, bring back the cod piece, get all our guys to wear lead cod pieces, and then they wouldn't have to worry about the cell phone radiation.
But yeah, avoid plastics.
If you can take your phone out, do it.
Put it on the desk.
You know, even carry it in a, I don't know, purse or something.
I don't know what to tell you about that.
But all right, and tell me tell the audience about if for the audience that is overweight and trying to get beach body ready for the summer, I've banged the drum on intermittent fasting 23-1, but you have your own eponymous diet, so lay that one on the audience if you would.
Oh, boy.
All right.
So, yeah, for anybody that doesn't know, here's just don't.
Yeah, don't eat is my big thing.
No, like, uh, so I was over 400 pounds for a decade.
Oh, my.
And now I haven't been over 200 in almost a decade.
Um, wow.
And uh, yeah, what I eat now is terrible.
Uh, a big guy like Tom would most likely die doing it.
I do a thousand calories a day.
I eat once a day.
I eat the same thing every day.
I eat uh three eggs and six ounces of ground beef and uh take a million supplements.
I don't have malnutrition or anything.
But if anybody out there is fat, do it because everyone that tried the town's diet has lost a lot of weight.
If anybody that is out there is fat, stop it.
Yeah, if you're fat, it's your fault.
I will tell anybody that.
All right.
I'm a cripple and I stopped being fat anyway.
So if you're fat, it's your fault.
It goes out to everybody.
Stop being fat.
Yep.
Weighed in before the show, 194 down from 203 at the peak in the winter.
So do that intermittent fasting, fam.
Thank you, Townsey.
Theo, thank you for your patience, brother.
You came on to give a couple of stem winders during our election night stream.
How are you, brother?
And how are you staying motivated?
Distill that little speech that you gave the other night.
Put you on the spot.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's not patience.
I've been casually interrupting everyone I possibly can.
But I've been staying motivated by my deep and passionate love for Israel.
And knowing just how big it is.
No.
Actually, I've honestly been rather despondent recently for just reasons.
Have you read Mein Kampf recently?
I've touched it.
That's not enough.
Is it?
I have to go reread it again.
I learned to read just so that I could read Mein Kampf.
That's the only book I've ever read.
I have a pretty, I think Borzoy might be the only one who has a larger library than I do, but I make it a point not to read any of the books that I get.
And that seems to work.
I know.
That's Flossen right there.
Right?
Yeah.
No, but I mean, that's a, it's, I've, I've talked about this before in to various people, but it as I'm, you know, I'm despondent.
I'm, you know, kind of down.
I'm not feeling very motivated at all.
Uh, and I, I hit those like really deep, deep levels of like despair and depression.
Uh, the one thing I've always found is just like, what's the one like important thing I've been neglecting?
And I'm going to do it right now, no matter what the cost is.
And that usually seems to work because chances are, if, if, you know, your mind is telling you that you're, you're screwing up, or like even if like your, your mind, something in you is telling you just kill yourself.
What if your mind is telling you no, but your body, your body is telling you yes.
Telling you, yeah.
Well, go for it.
No, um, but chances are that's because you actually should kill yourself, but not physically in a metaphorical way.
There's something deeply fundamental about you that needs to change and die, and you need to fix it.
And so that's usually how I go for it.
Like if I'm feeling despondent, it doesn't matter.
Like I'm, I have a duty and a commitment to my brothers and my people.
And I just, I have to do it no matter what, period.
I feel like crap doesn't matter.
I have to at least do something.
I have to keep living on, if only to spite the Jew who wants me to pull a bullet in my brain.
I'm not actually there.
I'm just using that as an extreme example just to clarify that.
But like, even if you're just feeling unmotivated, there's probably something you can do.
There's always something that can be done.
We haven't won yet.
So there is something you can do personally or for the movement or whatever.
Just earlier today, I was doing some work for the bond and working on some, obviously, a project we're doing, Voices of the Past, trying to get some shorter works motivated.
I finished up a section of the SS leadership guide, which is what I've been working through now, which has been that one, this section in particular I found fun.
It's called Symbol.
So if you haven't read the SS Leadership Guide, go do it or wait about a month when we finish and I'll have it out in audio.
And I've been, you know, like I said, despondent and struggling, and yet I just keep having these moments where something, I read it or I encounter it or speak it, and it's exactly the thing that I need to have at that very moment to snap me out of whatever funk I'm in and just get myself right.
Chances are, if you pay attention, you will find those things.
Like the fact is, we are on the side of righteousness and heaven and earth are aligned in our favor.
And so if you look for it and if you're struggling, you will find those things.
Heaven will try to knock you back on the right path.
And you just have to pay attention to it.
You just have to look for it.
Well, we have a high calling, right?
We do.
We can't just sink into our own depression or sadnesses or personal circumstances.
Our lives are not our own and they mean much more.
I largely not our own in a very metaphysical way.
The fact is, like one of the things the enemies have taken, I know this is really big brain, but I'll get to why that's important.
Probably not later.
I don't want to do it.
But in a very metaphysical way, we've almost lost our ability to understand what it means when we say I, like what it means when we refer to ourselves.
The analogy I always use is building a house.
And then the liberal or really the Jew comes around and says, oh, you don't need those tools.
That's not what a house is.
You don't need your foundation.
You don't need your frame.
You don't need a roof.
You don't need any of these pieces.
They're not your house.
And now you get rid of them all.
And now you're left with nothing and say, yeah, you're free.
Now you can go be your house.
So by the way, since you're not using your lot, it's mine now.
And so they go around and say this, like we've left with so little.
We're left with nothing at all to even understand what it is to be us, what it means when we say I. That's how disc deconstructed our identity is.
Like identity refers to nothing.
So of course we have no identity because we aren't anything.
That's one of the things that we're trying to, we've really noticed in this movement as we keep digging deeper and deeper and deeper into the struggle, that it's, it's, we need the politics, but it's so much more than politics.
And it's, we need the, we need the, the, the connections, but it's so much more than just connections.
It's something so much spiritual awakening.
Yes.
And one of the things I found when I was going through some other work in a ritual podcast we've been doing and some ritual work we've been trying to draw up is the the SS funeral.
I forget the title of it, but there's a guide out there that was the the S, the guide to the various rites and holidays for the SS that they were trying to rebuild.
And one of them was the funeral rites.
In the funeral rites, I'm going to try to remember this, but not only, obviously, the body is buried.
So all of the literal physical material of your body is returned to the earth.
Your dagger, which represents you as a, I forget if you were an officer, but either way, your presence in the SS was given to either a close family member or your protege in the SS.
Your ring was returned to Bevelsburg.
And so through the process of this funeral, I was struck by how profound it was that it is exactly this metaphysical point I was talking about in the same way that we, who we are, what it means when I say Theo, I am my genetics.
I'm my physical, my physical body, which the earth has given me.
I'm the genetics which my parents and my ancestors have given me.
And I live within the culture that obviously, again, my parents, my ancestors, my brothers have given me.
I have this fire in me that the gods have given me, that heaven has granted me that this is sparked by the love of all these things that I need to have that make up who I am.
The nation, in theory, is obviously small and nation for like the white nations that we exist in, not our governments.
But still, that gives us something.
The geography gives us something.
All of these forces give us something.
And it's our job to self-actualize, to take these forces and make us who we are as people so that we can then give back all those gifts that we have received tenfold.
So when we say our lives are not our own, that's what we mean.
And what struck me as so profound in this SS funeral rite is the process of the funeral was a sequence of returning symbolically or passing on all of those gifts that we received to make us up individually.
And so finally, the body is returned to the earth, and then our body is returned to the earth.
Our soul returns to the gods, and all of the gifts that we have been given by the people in the earth have been returned tenfold.
And through that, our power and our duty and our memories live eternal.
Very good.
Amen, Theo.
Thank you for that.
And it's a damn necessary reminder for so many of our people who cannot maintain their motivation and remember to focus on eternity and not your feeling in the moment or the news cycle.
Towns, thank you very much, sir.
Towns is going to pop off for a second.
I think Mike is in the queue.
We're all jammed up here.
But before we go to Mike, our very own Nathaniel Scott, our secret weapon personal treasure, is with us.
He is the one-man show who creates Navigating the Collapse for Us every Week, which is half survival tips and, of course, half classic essential readings from the great classics, from fascists, and even a conservative or two, Huey Long, was in there, etc.
Matt, what's going on, buddy?
Hey, Coach, great to be here.
Not too much.
Looking forward to hearing the Navigating the Collapse for Today.
Should be a good one.
So it's going to be great.
I got it here.
I was trying to download it from Mr. Producer, the scoundrel, who sent it to me only once we started streaming, and it just wasn't happening.
It made my internet connection even worse.
Give us a little bit of a teaser.
What are we looking at this week?
Or you don't even want to do that?
Well, I'll say the main section in the second half is actually from Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera.
And it's from his book that just came out through Antelope Hill.
So you can check that out, his anthology of speeches.
And it's a pretty good one.
I enjoy it.
Currently, I'm working on bringing two personal friends to our side in a couple of things.
So hopefully that's going to go well.
But wish me luck.
It's always a little bit dangerous going out on the ice and seeing how people will react.
Yeah, it's like with a woman.
You got to warm them up first, right?
Yeah, you can't just go right in.
But any progress so far?
What's it like?
What made you think that they were worthy or capable of being converted?
Well, one of them just straight out asked me.
We have been having some movie nights with my Normie friends.
And one of them was a very good film called My Way.
It's a Korean movie about a Japanese and a Korean man who served in the Japanese army during World War II, got captured by the Soviets and were impressed in the Soviet army, and then were captured by the Germans and ended up fighting on D-Day on the German side.
So it's a very interesting movie and it portrays the good guys in a good light.
So that's part of the reason I watched it and had them watch it too.
And afterwards, my friend just started talking about politics.
Yeah, what was the movie?
It was called My Way.
My Way.
Yeah, I definitely recommend it.
You know, it's funny getting your friends together and seeing D-Day on the screen and them rooting for the German side, saying, hey, watch out, watch out for that grenade, whatever.
So afterwards, we started talking and it was just the two of us and started asking me a couple pointed questions.
What do you think about this?
What do you think about that?
What do you think America should be doing?
Etc.
And then, you know, kind of flustered a little bit.
He was just, he was the first one to kind of go out on that ledge, but just, you know, why do you like fascism so much?
And, you know, I was like, well, that's a good question.
Let me explain some things for you.
Did you say you had one friend who was like, you know, I think I might be a white nationalist?
And you're like, oh, really?
These would not be the first people I've talked to these issues about and brought over to our side.
So I think ideally, each person would be doing something like that at least once a year.
One thing I've learned, I think this is fair to say, is that you almost want to be a little bit of a Johnny Appleseed with your red pills and your proselytizing because I've spent so much time and effort and explaining and book referencing with some people.
And then two years later, just like water on a pane of glass, they're still either, you know, reading Charlie Kirk eagerly or things like that.
And then other people, it just takes one comment off the cuff and then they come back and be like, tell me more, Master.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, yeah, if you know your target, you can make that.
It's like high investment red pilling versus high investment parenting.
It does depend on the age.
I'll just share a quick fool house related story.
I was over, had to print some documents on an in a printer with my family.
And they were babysitting my niece at the time.
And so, you know, she's kind of wandering around because this, they turned the office piece into her little area.
And I was scrolling through my phone, was going through some documents.
It's like, what's that?
And she saw this on my phone.
I forget what the article was, but I was scrolling through and it was an article of like this.
It's really, I think it was Jonathan Greenbladder.
I don't remember.
Just really was just ugly, ugly looking Jew.
I was like, well, that's a Jew.
It's like, oh.
They're bad.
They're bad people.
Jew's bad.
Yes, I'm not going to explain this to my brother.
I shortened the story a little bit just to not interrupt too long, but just wanted to share that little fun bit.
Anyway, sorry.
Go ahead.
Yeah, the one thing that I found has had, for me personally, 100% success rate is the movie Marching to Zion for my church friends.
Every single person that I have shown that to has turned around and been anti-Israel in one way or another, including myself, because that's how I first started.
That's an amazing film.
I freaking love that movie.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
Marching five times.
Nat, send me where.
I don't know if it's still available on YouTube or whatnot, but send me that link.
I'll put it in the show notes.
These are going to be the worst show notes to compose ever because we've had so much content over two hours, 20 minutes.
Thank you, buddy.
We will go to Navigating the Collapse.
Maybe we'll close the show out with it this week.
But before that, we got Dark Enlightenment.
And I do believe that the chairman just hopped on.
Oh, God, sir.
You're muted at the moment.
Hopefully, I'm not putting you on the spot.
What's up, Mike?
Oh, yes.
Hi.
I would turn my camera on, but I'm literally sitting in bed and I can't allow that kind of undignified.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
You're not sitting in bed.
You're sitting up.
You're a big liar.
I'm in bed.
So, yeah.
Oh, gosh.
The camera's like off-center.
Okay.
Y'all, there I am.
Yeah.
So it's not terrible.
It's not terrible.
It's like a kind of a MySpace angle I've got going on here.
Let's say I love mayonnaise.
No, that's a different condiment than it says I love.
Okay.
Oh, ranch, ranch.
Yes.
Of course.
Yes.
I have my Jeffrey Dahmer glasses on, and now everybody's.
Yeah, you really do.
Wow, looking good.
I'm not kidding when I tell Jeff Bezos I'm going to eat his face.
Is that Jeffrey Dahmer?
Why would you even want to eat that?
Why is that like a thing you want to eat, though?
He just deserves it.
Yeah.
Maybe somebody.
Maybe like, maybe like one of those, like one of those blacks on like the that guy was like eating that guy's face on the beach years ago.
Like this is a thing.
On bath salts in Miami Beach.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So maybe a bath salt addict can do it.
That way we don't get involved.
Well, like Fillette Mignon is expensive, right?
So like Jeff Bezos' face must be good.
It's probably more expensive, but see, this is why you get in trouble because you say these kinds of things.
Like it's not necessary.
Jeff Bezos is like you can see who's in my roster.
Are you going to kneel on my neck at punishment?
I will.
I will.
We never managed to get around to the George Floyd challenge segment of the NJP meeting where I had wanted to get everyone to pair off into Floyds and Chauvins and see how many Floyds and Chauvins we could get doing nine and a half minute knee knee pins on each other and no one dying.
That's my room full of doing we had to one-up crowder by doing he did it like one guy.
We would do like we have like 40 guys doing it.
Like we have 40 pairs of guys doing it.
And, you know, we could get different weight classes.
We could do a whole thing.
It's like there's no way you can say this our experiment didn't work because literally we have 40 people that live through this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My next speech is going to be nine and a half minutes long.
And all I'm going to say is I can't breathe while somebody knees on my neck.
Yeah.
That will okay.
Yeah.
I mean, unfortunately, um, well, or fortunately, I don't know.
Well, the trial will probably be over by that point.
I would assume, unless the jury deliberates for a very long time, I would say, but George Floyd will live forever.
So, Mike, I was forever breathing in my heart.
I was getting into an argument with some people.
My micro, what is it?
My, what do they call that?
When you have man, that thing that they have, the macro thing, enlarged, my very enlarged heart.
You know, George Floyd had such a big heart.
My nigga.
He had so much love for the world.
Yeah.
He loved the world so much, his heart expanded.
It wasn't high blood pressure or drug use.
It was, no, it was just all the love he had in that heart.
The entire world made that heart so good.
Who here is expecting an acquittal?
Because we've been having a discussion.
I've been having, I say, there's no way in hell.
There is no way in hell.
It doesn't matter what the evidence is.
It's a political trial, and these people will face death threats their whole lives.
And they will not do that.
I just think this is not a the jurors are not like men who principled men who have chosen to become political dissidents.
They're just a random pool of people.
And there's a couple blacks on there.
The blacks will vote for some kind of charges.
I don't know if it'll be the worst.
I think it'll be a, I would bet if I had to bet the farm on it, I would say it'll be some of the lighter charges.
It won't be the full slate, but there is no way in hell that he is just going to walk away from this.
Absolutely.
And I have an open $100 bet offer to anybody.
I've seen a lot of guys say, oh, he's going to get off.
He's going to get acquitted.
Have you seen the trials?
I'm semi-hundred and naive.
Nobody's thinking that.
Let's hedge.
Let's.
Okay.
Okay.
I am not willing to make any prediction one way or the other.
I could see it going either way.
One thing I think about why it's possible is because I think sometimes the media might be clued into other things and they are kind of prepping.
There's been some prep work in the media done for a not guilty verdict, although I have seen less of that in the last week.
Now, here's a question: What if he's guilty, but not a murder?
Like, what do they get him on the manslaughter?
Because he's got two counts of murder, one count of manslaughter.
So I would say you should put the bet on the murder charge because I could very easily see them getting giving him the, I don't think you should get anything, but I could see them default like because murder is, dude, it's the thing is, it's kind of like it all really comes down to one, how scared is a jury and what kind of instructions are they given?
If the judge is telling, if the judge properly informs them, you know, if there's a reasonable doubt in your mind this guy is guilty of murder, like you have to vote to not find him guilty of murder.
And that's what this is.
Literally, it's beyond a reasonable doubt.
You cannot, if you have any doubts, you can't say that he's guilty of murder.
Now, the prosecution would freak the hell out if the judge started talking like that, but I think he needs to be very specific about what these charges are and what the requirements to meet these charges are.
They haven't met reasonable doubt.
They just haven't.
That's just factual.
But here's another thing: I mean, I know some of you might know this fact that only 36% of Americans think Chauvin's a murderer, think he's guilty of murder.
Only 28% of whites think Chauvin is guilty of murder.
So 72% of white people think Chauvin is innocent.
That's significant.
That is highly, highly significant.
Now, I'm not saying they're going to go to trial because of that.
I mean, how is that?
I mean, what percentage of white people thought that O.J.
I think it's significant?
Oh, you mean it's significant in terms of the verdict?
It's politically, highly significant.
In terms of the verdict, I don't think it's going to maybe make a difference, but it's a highly significant political fact.
I don't see how to give you it.
Oh, no, absolutely.
But I guess, though, in terms of the trial or what the media and what the system is in terms of the outcome they want out of this, I don't think, yeah, I don't think they're at all afraid of going against the majority perception that he was.
It's like the O.J. Simpson trial.
It's not a majority perception.
Right, right.
Yeah, no, you mean the majority perception is that he's innocent.
Despite that, I remember the OJ Trump trial, though, right?
I mean, I'm getting very good vibes that it's one of those things where the whole world knew he was guilty and the trial became about whether the and that's when that n-word stuff started.
That was the first time I really heard it like talked to the media, the n-word.
Well, yeah, I'll tell you one thing about the OJ trial, all right?
Like, let's put this trial in perspective.
Like, what did OJ do?
He killed a race mixer in a Jew.
I mean, yeah, where's the harm?
He did us a favor.
Am I really that investment?
No, I mean, I know a lot of people were kind of sniggering about that.
Here's the funny thing.
He was also infinitely better of a person than George Floyd.
Like, no, hold on, hold on.
No, no.
What I mean is the perception of him amongst the common pop like amongst the populace.
Like, people had a good, good notion of who OJ Simpson was before the killing.
You have to remember.
There was significant media wanting him hung, too.
Like, Geraldo, you remember Geraldo Rivera?
I was even talking about this tonight with James.
Geraldo Rivera was like, hang OJ band.
And I remember when I was younger, I was like, that's weird.
Why is that?
Now, now we know why, right?
Now we understand why.
Because Geraldo's an L.A. Jew and freaking, he killed an L.A. Jew.
So I feel like, you know, OJ's the type of nigga that I could have a beer with.
George Floyd is not.
I could have a banana with George Floyd.
I could even try to have a banana around that guy.
I could have like a syrup.
In a convenience school.
Well, George Floyd would just pass out.
Like, you can't.
George Floyd is an every black, though.
That's why he's become the symbol.
You know, he's the everyblack.
He's the median nigger.
Like, he's the median.
No, no, no.
We got permission, actually.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, that's all right.
George gave it.
We changed the policy, Mike.
As long as it's appropriate.
Yeah, just don't be.
I got.
No, no.
You know what?
The true story.
Mr. Producer.
Mr. Producer was like, Coach.
Mr. Producer was like, Coach, you've got to clarify it for me because I'm the one who has to bleep all these MFers.
Are we allowed to say nigger or not?
And I said, if it's appropriate.
He's like, how am I supposed to know if it's appropriate?
I was like, I don't know.
Well, when isn't it?
I mean, it's always appropriate.
Well, that is not like 100% of the time it's appropriate.
That was brought up as part of the case.
It's just what it's called.
Like, I don't understand.
That's just what they're called.
Niggas kissing.
Well, I would say this.
George Floyd is the median African-American.
He is right there.
He's right there.
He's the mean.
He's the average black.
He really is.
Like, that's what people don't get.
The blacks you see in TV, movies, even the one you see at your office or your job site.
He's like the far above average black.
Like that is not like even hitting working classes.
High tier.
Well, you know, it's funny.
You're more likely to see a black in like an office type job than you are at a blue collar type job.
You rarely see that.
Well, that's because they can just give him the play solitaire or some shit.
Dragon Ball dude.
Yeah.
Your real problem's the monkey.
What's going to happen, I think, is he's going to get acquitted, and then there's going to be the civil rights division of the Justice Department's going to go after him.
Acquitted or found?
I made $100.
What's the difference?
I cleaned up betting against Drupal Dark.
$100.
You think he's getting acquitted?
It's Dr. Lehman from now on.
We renamed you to Dr. Lehman.
No, no.
As an insurance policy.
Welcome, but I'm not going to rule out the fact that he's going to get railroaded.
Obviously, it's a political trial.
Obviously, Minnesota is full of some of the most insane people on the face of the planet.
But we're making predictions.
We're making predictions here.
I think he's going to get railroaded.
I think Jovan is going to walk and he's going to throw a Roman on his way out.
He probably won't throw a Roman.
We should force everyone to make a hard prediction.
Like, no weaseling.
Make a hard prediction.
Hard predictions and hard R's.
Yeah, hard prediction to go your hard R. What were the charges, Mike?
It was third-degree murder, second-degree murder, and manslaughter.
I know it is, but if I were that jury, that's the one I would go with because I would want to not, I would want to go.
Does it make any sense?
Well, just because it's, it's, I'm going one up from manslaughter, but I'm going one down from second degree.
I mean, he shouldn't be charged with any of them.
That's what we've established.
And it's like in Washington when they give the principal three options.
It's like you can declare nuclear war, you can do nothing, and you can do this middle thing.
But let me explain, though.
Anything, it's going to be manslaughter.
I mean, I know that, yeah, the legal.
I know what you're saying.
I mean, if you want to explain it, here's the thing.
I don't know that second-degree murder and third-degree murder are like any particular, there's like a difference in how severe they are perceived.
They're both very because the issue isn't, in fact, third-degree murder is almost worse because third-degree murder is like you would do, you did something that could just kill anybody.
Like you didn't care.
Like you acted.
That's why it's impossible for them to prove it.
It's not just like, oh, it's murder, but it's like less bad.
You know who got third-degree murder was Mohamed Noor, who killed Justine DeMond because now he shot because he shot his gun out of his car window.
Yeah.
So when you do that, you kill somebody.
That it's like you're not aiming for anyone in particular, but it's reckless.
You act with depraved mind recklessly towards life or something like that, right?
You wanted to kill somebody, but you didn't know who.
Where you just, you didn't care.
Like you just acted in a total disregard to life, right?
And so that is, you know, that's like, that's very difficult to prove when, because if that were true, Chauvin would be kneeing on like everybody.
But he would be kneeing on niggers.
He was only kneeing on one guy.
So second degree murder, then the problem is second-degree murder is like you assault somebody.
So you don't necessarily mean to kill them, but you're trying to beat them up and then you end up killing them.
Doesn't that charge depend on the third charge as well?
Like, aren't two of these charges linked?
And I think it's not the third degree murder one, it's the second degree murder, and whichever one's the third charge.
Well, if you're not going to, the third-degree murder is like stupid because he only acted in terms of one, he only acted towards one person.
Like he was not acting in an endangering way for anybody but Floyd, right?
Right.
So the only thing you got would be the second degree, which is the problem is second degree requires you to be engaged in criminal assault and murder someone in the course of a criminal assault.
And like a police officer detaining someone is not a criminal assault.
So they would actually, they would actually have to charge like first degree murder if they were going to charge anything plausible because the idea of second degree murder is like an assault escalated into a death.
And second degree manslaughter is sort of like the same thing as second degree murder, but for manslaughter.
Although I'm not exactly sure what I'd have to look up exactly what the definition of that is, but that's that's the only one they can get.
I mean, I would my thing is I think if they're going to find him guilty, they're going to find him guilty of second degree murder and not, I think third degree murder is the least likely one because it, I mean, that might be me because I understand what it means, but I think the jury will be told somewhat what it means.
And I think if they're going to give him murder, they're going to give him the second degree.
And the problem is all of those charges are like logically, they all can't, they all can't, they're mutually exclusive with regards to one person, right?
He's guilty of all of them.
You can't be guilty of all well, you could be, but they'd have to have different victims, right?
Like you would in theory be guilty of all of them.
It would be quite an evening, right?
He's only got two knees.
Right.
You don't understand.
You see, he was assaulting his person, but the other person was traveling on the land.
And so that's why I was all three.
That could work.
Mike, have you ever done jury duty?
No, nor will I at this point.
I did it once, and I'll tell you.
It was, I mean, I don't know if anybody else here has can speak to it, but it is really, yeah, it's an exercise in like groupthink and in like democracy.
I mean, it really, there's a lot of just like feelings and discussions and people.
I mean, the personalities of the people has so much to do with it.
Like, I imagine this is what I'm going to.
What kind of case did you get?
Like, because if I imagine you can get it in the case, I mean, if you do a grand jury, dude, now it was a criminal case where a guy was accused of some drug shit.
And it was explained the definitions of the charges because that, like, that I think would be a big thing.
I mean, like Mike was talking about, if we don't, I mean, how many people actually will be able to know the difference between third and second degree murder?
And especially if it's politically motivated and they're, you know, their lives are threatened or they're just, you know, hyped up and they don't really get the nuances between the murder charges.
Like, I mean, you were there on jury duty.
Do they go into detail to make sure you read it?
That was a long time ago.
I don't remember, but oh, go ahead.
They do.
They do.
The judge is supposed to give the jury explicit instructions as to the charges that are against the person being accused.
Like, they have to know what they're going to be finding somebody guilty or innocent of.
So, yeah, the judge actually during, so after the after the case rests, the judge will give the jury very explicit instructions before they go into dude jury deliberation.
So, second-degree manslaughter is culpable negligence, creating an unreasonable risk and consciously taking chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another.
That's the one, there's four or five things that it would meet, but that's the one they're arguing for.
Right.
So, I could see them actually getting that.
I think if they now, the funny thing is they're charging murder, first and second and third-degree murder, but they're arguing for manslaughter.
Like, the arguments in the case, like if they're like saying, like, he wasn't trained to do this move, that's not an argument for murder.
Oh, you used a pin you weren't trained to do.
First of all, that doesn't even mean anything.
Maybe you learned it somewhere else.
Just because you didn't get trained in it doesn't mean you can't do it.
Well, it's also like it literally in police training.
Well, that's first of all, it's a lie, right?
Like, it's literally there, which was hilarious when they actually got that.
We actually showed that to that guy.
He was like, Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I was, I was initially on Chauvin's side, one, just because I'm extremely racist, but two, because I saw him kneeing on Floyd, and I had learned that same pin when I was in the army in Israel.
In Israel, when I was in the IDF because I'm Jewish.
When you're kneeling on Iraqis, when Jews were literally standing behind you screaming, kneel on those Iraqis.
When I was kneeling on seven-year-old Palestinian.
Even they survived, though.
Yeah.
Well, until the tank showed up.
Right.
Yeah, the Jews are like, see, we could do that with a tank tread.
That'll work.
Like, just look at the tanks only across the, the treads are only across the back of his shoulders.
There's no death here.
But the Jews weren't guilty of killing Rachel Corey yet.
Like, everyone wants Chauvin to be guilty of like.
Mike, do you have a comment on what just happened with the Ashley Babbitt thing that there was not no charges filed?
No charges filed.
I mean, the comment is no different than what you said.
I mean, how do we, how do we, like, how do you, is there even a way?
I haven't studied this, but we need to start thinking about it.
Is there a way to compel the prosecution to, like, if somebody just came up and shot you and it, and that you have a prosecutor that's just, oh, yeah, we're not going to charge them.
You know, it's a good time.
I wish somebody was.
You can do it, but I can't do it.
Like, it would have to be her family.
You have to be someone to bring a case before the court, you need standing.
You have to be someone that's injured or damaged.
So it would have to be family that would do it.
Yeah, you could bring an amicus brief.
I remember when Joe Rowan got amicus brief just means friend of the court.
That's different.
You can sue.
Like, you can sue the government.
Like, her family can sue the fucking government.
An amicus brief means like I'm inserting myself into a case giving an opinion.
Like, lawyers will file these.
Like, oh, here's what I think.
Here's a friend of the court is what that means.
Right.
So you don't know.
It's not an Amazon brief.
You would just sue the fucking government.
Like, her family should sue the state.
They should sue D.C.
And they should sue the cap.
They should sue everybody, frankly.
Sue everyone.
They should sue every federal government.
I'm going to sue Israel.
Sue Trump.
Shoe on the other foot.
They should sue Donald Trump.
Say blacks were, say, Black Lives Matter were storming the Capitol, whether they were let in or not.
And a white cop shot a black, a BLM protester trying to bust through those doors.
You genuinely think, I know it's not Apples to Apples, but it crossed my mind, to be fair.
No, you know, would we be up in arms over that?
Yeah.
I thought about that, and I, and this is the thing.
I don't give a shit.
Like, I'm not getting up in arms.
I mean, no, I know.
To me, it's the context.
I literally, in my Google news headlines, the first thing was this woman's face, the female cop.
Yeah, I know, haha, women are stupid.
The woman cop who accidentally tased, I just had to head it off.
I was just like, I already did this.
Like, I already said, like, I'm on her side completely.
Like, yeah, she made a woman move, but, you know, women do women things.
But I mean, her face is her name and face.
This is my point.
Say what you want about women cops, but they apparently know how to make good niggers.
I'll just say this.
I'll just say this.
Like, everybody can make fun of her all they want.
She still killed more niggers than you did.
Iceberg.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
All right.
By the way, I don't advocate anybody.
I mean, here's what I'm saying.
Here's what I was saying.
Iceberged out in Jesse's DMs or Sven's DMs, I should say, I guess.
So we received a lot of training on stress and how to handle stress and being put into stressful situations on purpose so that we would become extremely stressed out so that we could learn how we reacted under stress.
And they were trying to figure out what our shutdown points are, if you will, to the point where you black out and you don't remember what you're doing and your body is just operating on its own basically at that point.
So that was what you were doing the other day.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was doing.
And so to a certain extent, I understand why a female in particular would mistake her firearm for her taser because women can't deal with stress the way that men can.
And it's unfair to pit them against these federal niggers.
Exactly.
That's all true.
My point is just this, though.
But the fact that her name and face are plastered all over the news and she looks guilty as hell in the picture.
And it's the top news story.
And then a small blurb, like five stories down, it says officer, you know, in capital shooting, not charged.
It's that treatment of it.
Yeah.
I mean, I blew my top today looking at that.
The idea, my dad was the one who actually, it was like two years ago.
He brought to my attention this phenomenon that I think we're all familiar with now, where George Soros was dumping all these, uh, all this money into prosecutor races all over the country.
And uh, we're seeing the results of that.
I mean, there was the one, Mike, that we did with the NJP, that one, uh, that guy that was killed.
I mean, there's been multiple uh ones where, where white people have been killed at protests and and like just no charges filed.
Oh, dude, they are the George Soros prosecutors were put in place and then the Black Lives Matter shit happened.
The rioting happened, and they were like activated as like, you know, like their eyes like lit up.
They were like, none of these people are getting charged.
They are like strategically dropping charges.
It's really crazy.
Now, as far as the thing with the stress, and yes, this was like a woman making a mistake because she can't handle stress.
I can't say I would do it better.
A couple things.
We showed video on TDS yesterday or Monday of male cops, men doing this same mistake because we started looking up.
Like, does this happen?
Is this common?
After we initially recovered, it happens all the time.
It happens all the fucking time.
And we had a case to a white dude, a white dude, and no charges.
The cop resigned.
He didn't kill him.
The guy didn't die.
He got shot in the gut and he lived.
But the cop just resigned.
No charges, nothing.
And this white dude was already in jail.
Like, he was in jail, detained already.
And they were just, they thought he had a bag of drugs on him and they went and they tackled him.
And I guess he fought back.
The cop went to taser and he shot him.
Also, they made the tasers look like more like guns in the last two years.
It's like, why would you do that?
They used to be like bright and yellow.
Now they just made it.
Now they're just black, like the gun.
It's like, why did you do this?
There was a very famous shooting.
I remember listening to, I was listening to the episode the other day and I was like, oh man, this happened when you guys were trying to figure out if this has happened.
It's actually happened in a very famous case in San Francisco on BART to this guy, Oscar Grant.
And it was on video and the cop went to, it looked like, you know, he was just going to grab for his belt and he was going for his taser, he said, and he shot him in the back when he had him prone.
So yeah, did the guy die?
Yeah, he did.
Hey, real quick, guys.
Tom has to jump off.
Thomas Sewell, thank you so much for joining us, brother.
He said you were going to pop in and say hello and you stayed for almost the whole damn stream.
Honored to have you on.
Hey, brother.
Thanks, man.
I'll put up a.
Put him up.
All right.
Here we go.
All right, brother.
I'll make sure I get you guys a chat next time I'm on.
I got to head off.
We've got a few things today.
See you guys.
See you.
Honored to have you.
Good luck, brother.
To answer your question, Mike, yeah, involuntary manslaughter was what he was found guilty of.
Okay.
But they're charging this brawl with murder, right?
I don't know.
Manslaughter.
Manslaughter.
Okay, all right.
I mean, how about the amount of times we've heard the thing George Floyd did?
We watched him.
We all, America watched it happen.
And here, we've all seen the video.
I've watched it again, this guy sticks his gun out.
He acquires the target.
And it's an unarmed woman.
But he acquires a target.
He doesn't, like, his gun doesn't just go off like in pulp fiction.
No, he's looking at it.
He's pointing right at her and he pulls the trigger.
And the argument, yeah, the argument that she was like trying to hurt people.
I was just trying to hurt people.
Well, there were no people that are hurt.
Also, how about this?
How about this?
Every time one of these, one of these blacks, this happens to one of these blacks, they claim like whatever activity the black had done like that hour is why they were killed.
So like, oh, you, you, you get shot for going to the convenience store?
Oh, you get shot for eating Skittles?
Like, an air freshener in your window?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you get, you get shot.
Like, what did uh what was it?
What was it with this guy?
This Daunte, Duante.
What is it with him?
Oh, he gets shot for getting his car.
But here we have a woman shot for protesting.
Straight up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was shot for protesting.
That's what you're doing.
You get shot for getting in your car.
Well, sometimes, if you're a stupid, dusted-out nigger.
And you know, Coach, to your point, I feel like that is a fair point.
If we were, what if we were in power and there were Antifa and it was like moldilocks and she was attacking our Reichstag building.
I think if one of our guys did that, we would be, his face would be all over the news as a hero.
In other words, well, let me just say.
Maybe not.
Maybe not as a hero, but we wouldn't do anything to him.
No, but that's my point.
That's my point, though, is that the system is not that confident in what it's doing.
In other words, they'll make the case, okay, even though she was unarmed, even though she was a woman, even though she was a veteran, even though it was a protest, she was attacking, trying to breach the Capitol.
And so the Capitol Security defended the Capitol building.
Okay, well, if that's your point, then have the moral courage to say what I just said, to condemn her as a terrorist and give this guy a medal, and we should see his face all over it.
A fucking medal.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
That's my point.
There you go.
They are not.
That should be the shit.
We should start a petition.
Take a take for a guy a medal.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it's not fair that we don't know his name.
Hero of the Republic.
Jerome Shaquandarius Daquan.
That's the guy who exists.
That's the hero.
They don't have the moral courage in what they say.
And it's just like with the free speech stuff.
Why let a corporation do this for you and then still say you have free speech?
Well, if you're so confident that you represent the voice of the people, like the Soviets, then just say, say it.
You know, we have no right.
White nationalists have no right to speak.
We're not legitimate citizens of the United States.
Why play this double game?
This is what I was actually saying on the show yesterday where I was talking about.
It doesn't matter.
Which one?
No, yeah, it was the TDS.
Where we're talking about this kid that gets kicked, this Indian kid got kicked out of UVA for speaking up at this white privilege conference.
Boy, he asked some very biting questions.
He stumped the hell out of the people that were teaching at that panel.
He really made them look very bad and embarrassed them very badly.
And, you know.
Well, he was just doing like the autistic, like, I need parameters, please.
Well, no, but that's the point.
Right.
That's the point.
Literally, when he said, you said it has to be a marginalized group.
How do we know what's a marginalized group?
It seems like it's not specific.
It's not defined.
And they said it's not defined on purpose.
That was the most revealing part of it.
The woman running the little seminar says it's not defined on purpose because if we define it, then people can say, that's not me.
I didn't do that thing.
I'm still a good person.
And frankly, we don't want to let people be able to do that.
That's the whole point is to not, the whole point is to fuck with people, right?
And what I said at that time, I said, you know, who doesn't do this?
Nazis don't do this.
Nazis will tell you what the rule is.
They'll tell you what it is.
And then if you break it, then you face the punishment.
But there's none of this messing around, no defined rules, right?
It's like, no, here's the rules.
And it's not going to be anything like, you know, you can't insult somebody or some shit, stupid shit like that.
Like, it's rules will be very clear and very sensible.
Like, you don't.
So, because you don't hear these kind of complaints about Nazi Germany.
Hear this same system coming out of the Soviet Union, right?
Systems that Jews run, you hear have these similar kinds of outcomes, these similar kinds of things, like ill-defined rules.
A lot of arbitrary can be guilty at any time of any rights, right?
Right.
And they do that because they don't have confidence.
Like, like Nazi Germany doesn't do that, or you know, an authoritarian, an overtly authoritarian system wouldn't have to do that.
It would be like, no, no, no, like the rules are very clear.
And you could have a, you know, you don't, but that, and that, that's exactly exactly why that sort of thing is a threat to Jews.
They don't like that.
Well, that's not how they can rule because there's no wiggle room.
You know, the thing with the to also to coach's point, um, you know, you ask the question, okay, well, what if, what would our reaction be if, if, if she, if the protester had been black and the officer had been right, white?
Well, let's let's turn that around.
What would the systems, what would the prosecutors, uh, if this, what would their reaction be?
They would have called it Black Lives Matter.
If this was a Black Lives Matter, oh, okay, I thought you meant if it was like a Black Trump supporter that got shot.
Well, yeah, remember what I mean is, remember when the, yeah, well, yeah, they would have covered it, but remember when the Black Lives Matter graffiti the statue and then Trump walked through it.
Imagine if they had gotten that far, breached the Capitol, and when Trump was still in, and a black and a white officer had shot in the exact same way a Black Lives Matter female protester under the same circumstances, you know that we would, their face would be all over the news and it would be the same thing.
So that's that's to me that I mean, this is not only is it outrageous, but it's very scary because it's like it's just showing that they can just, it's, it's sending the message to Zog's mercenaries that you can just open fire on right-wing supporters, even if you're on video, even if it's, if it's a woman, even if she's a veteran, and you're just not going to even get any charges.
It's not like the charges will be dropped.
It's not like you'll get manslaughter or you'll get second-degree manslaughter or you might have to deal with a trial.
You're just not going to file charges.
You can just go on going about your life, going about your day.
No problem.
It's sort of funny.
Like this system doesn't even have heroes anymore.
Like, who are the kinds of people it can hold up as its heroes?
Like, what was like, I think Trump gave Sheldon Adelson's wife a medal?
I mean, has anyone gotten like the Medal of America?
She got like the American Freedom Award or some shit like that, right?
He's the last person to get it.
I mean, that's who deserves it.
Right?
Sure.
I mean, in America, yeah, there you go.
But so, yeah, no, it's the system is decrepit.
I think that it's an interesting point to, I mean, first of all, all these points should be made to others.
Like, everyone has to get this, and people have to understand it.
Like, today, the thing that I made a point of today, talking about the James O'Keefe thing, is that like, it's not, he got banned for posting that, right?
But why didn't he ever get banned before?
Yeah.
Because he caused problems before.
Notice, like, this, this is very important.
Like, he exposed Democrat.
This kind of goes to why conservatives are off base and everything.
James O'Keefe exposed, legitimately exposed Democrat electoral fraud.
Like, real.
He wasn't making it up.
It was totally real.
He caught them red-handed on multiple occasions.
He exposed unethical campaign practices by Hillary Clinton.
He exposed Planned Parenthood doing extremely unethical things with, you know, parts of fetuses.
I believe they were selling stem cell fetus, fetal stem cells and stuff like that.
And none of that got him banned.
As soon as he exposed, and he kind of did it unintentionally because he was like part three of the series on this, they got this nerd out on a date with some broad, and she gets him to run his mouth.
And you know, they had him talk about, oh, CNN is biased against Trump.
Like, yeah, thank you.
I, I, I didn't need a leaked video for that, right?
You don't say like they're saying it was for platform manipulation and spam, though.
Uh, I guess, right, right, right, right.
But no, you, that's irrelevant.
They're whatever their excuse is is stupid.
Like, my point is this: like, he isn't getting banned because, like, what is getting him finally banned is not all this other kind of stuff, it's when he actually hit on a racial thing.
Like, that headline, you could have had that headline on any white nationalist website.
It's like he's literally saying, We don't focus on crimes unless the person is white.
Well, and then in the video, um, the whole video, not just the video of the broad interviewing him on the date, he's you know, James O'Keefe at the end says he said the quiet part out loud, and it's like, Yeah, only get in trouble when you say the quiet part out loud or you point out that somebody said the quiet part out loud, right?
It's not that James O'Keefe's been not had trouble or problems with these people before, but like this was the one where they were just like, No, well, he was charged really, really touched on Jewish power this time as compared to before.
He was charged with crimes in connection with the Planned Parenthood stuff, but well, hey, crimes are cool.
What was the crime he was charged?
He didn't get they didn't prosecute him, though, but he wasn't banned from that.
Yeah, it was recording, illegal recording, or entrapment, or something like that.
No, but it's funny that entrapment is a bullshit charge because journalism if the FBI can do it, then fuck you.
Like, plus, it's journalism.
Like, you get if they give all kinds of that's the other thing, there's no certification to be a journalist, there's no class you have to pay.
Now, supposedly, like you can take classes, and it's not a requirement, yeah.
It's not a licensed professional, there's no there's no license to be a journalist, you just have to do journalism.
He's doing journalism, right?
Yet, and and journalists doing journalism do get all kinds of protections and uh for the for doing kinds of things that other particularly if they're blowing whistles on stuff that other people might not get.
Yet, is this extended to people like us?
Like, you know, it's it's that's another question.
Like, if like, say, Stryker got a source and then the he wrote an article and he had it in a confidential source, and the government like wanted to find out who that person was in some case, and they asked him, He's like, I'm not telling you because I don't have to because I'm a journalist.
Would they respect that?
Because they'll respect it for look every they'll respect it for like any old situation, yeah, right?
It's it's it's actually quite an important thing, they consider it like a very important thing, and uh, like they want there's these Jews.
Oh, dude, the Jews that were arguing against Glenn Allen, that law firm up something, man, that law firm specializes in arguing that journalists should be able to pay and should be able to uh encourage people to actually break like like in other if it's illegal for you to release to leak documents from your workplace, right?
Like, I'm sure coach knows about this.
I mean, you know, you haven't, yeah, no, no, I mean, you understand what you're talking about.
I'm understanding.
I'm a better example as a uh, as a both of you guys.
I don't remember having worked for the government, right?
My point is not that neither of you guys ever did this.
My point is, you understand that there that there are strict rules about that kind of thing, right?
So, If you do that and you, you know, you give it to a journalist and they publish it, of course, they can't get in trouble, right?
That's that's like standard.
You still could, but they can't compel that journalist to turn you over.
But what if it's to something like to national hyphen?
Uh, what if he gets a source that might be doing something unethical?
And now these Jews are actually arguing that they want to, they actually think journalists, you know, the other thing is the journalists can only get in trouble if they sort of like cajole the person to do it.
Like they're like, come on, do it.
Give me more stuff.
Like they're trying to get Julian Assange on that, right?
And like saying he did that to Bradley Manning.
But there's actually this law firm that was representing the SPLC in this lawsuit.
They specialize in this kind of case particularly.
And they've written all these papers and arguments about why like they should be able to pay people.
They should be able to pressure people to just leak shit from where they work.
But the thing is, it's like I can see that being useful to us in some sense, but it's also like, why do these Jews want that so bad?
Well, they just want to like, they want people to be able to just do kind of all kinds of illegal shit, frankly.
Yeah, do illegal shit.
It's cool.
Also, everyone knows that journalists, like a lot of these journalists, like, oh, I got just showed up in my mailbox.
Look, I don't know, manila envelope on my doorstep one morning.
No idea where it came from.
Oh, this, I found this on a train that has millions of people on it every day.
Well, that's a way to confirm where it came from.
Well, yeah, I mean, they literally all say that.
It's like, yeah, I doubt it.
But I mean, it's literally like never true.
Yeah, no, some homosexual gave this to you when you met for coffee at Starbucks.
You faggot.
Yeah.
Gentlemen, before Mr. Producer falls asleep, let's try to bring this puppy home.
Mike, thank you so much for joining us and closing this out here with the coverage.
Two quick questions, if that's possible with a first-time podcaster like you.
You gave a very simple, short answer to a question at NJP on the little, you did a little show after the speech, and it was, what does victory look like to you?
And I thought it was the most brief, succinct answer I had heard yet.
Lay it on the audience.
I think I would have said state power.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the name of the game.
Happy to refresh your memory.
I kind of remember it, but that's what I would say in any case.
There you go.
You passed.
And Mike, you're no spring chicken, but there is a lovely lady in your life.
Is there any chance you guys are going to go for it or you go on the fewer route?
No kids.
Oh, your people.
I don't know.
And you're lovely.
Just personal.
I don't want to talk about that publicly.
We'll decide.
And if we decide, we'll tell everybody what happens.
If something happens.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
I wasn't probing.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
That's all good.
All right.
He asked everybody, even homosexuals.
No, I understand it.
I understand why we haven't even gotten married yet.
And we are wanting to do that, but we like the coronavirus got in the way.
And then it just, you know, a lot of stuff happened.
I mean, we could do it now.
It was supposed to be like a year ago.
But anyway, we'll get to it at some point.
But then the other issue is, do we do it?
Do we actually do it or we just do like our marriage?
Do we need the blessing of Zog to be?
I don't think so, right?
So I have Zog.
If it's in your interests or it helps you in some way, sure, but otherwise, no.
Yeah, that's the only calculation.
Is it, will it help us help?
What's the risk factor there?
Otherwise, it doesn't, that's not the, that's not the relevant issue.
We don't need the blessing of Zog for that.
No, definitely.
Only our own.
And a lot of times it's important.
Yeah, it's important to the lady more so than the man.
Oh, in this case, it's important to her not to do it.
Right.
Yeah.
Your invite list is like, uh, did they get married not tell anybody?
But no, that's all right.
Thank you, Mike.
Uh, I'd say, is there anything you want that would be a little bit gratuitous?
But uh, go ahead.
I'll plug NJP.
Anything uh coming down the pike?
Uh, Ahab or Stray mentioned that we got we got more writing coming.
And go ahead, yeah, all the speeches are.
We had a little issue that was just an issue with the our editor, uh, film editor out something had to take care of.
Um, and so that's why we got a little delay on the films coming out.
Those are going to be our speeches are going to be out after the speeches come out.
We are going to be doing much more content on the site on like a weekly basis.
We're going to have a few articles and editorials every week, so there's a reason to keep going back to the site so it doesn't just die with kind of just like stale content, it doesn't get stale.
We want it to be a recurring destination.
Um, and so yeah, there's that.
Uh, also, definitely go to t.me/slash and painovich.
I just started a telegram a couple weeks ago, it's a lot of fun.
I'm enjoying it.
Go to t.me/slash national justice party.
Yeah, do that too.
Um, and uh, yeah, that's basically it.
Other than that, everybody knows everything, but yeah, also come to the next NJP meeting.
We don't know when it's going to be, but try and through channels, find your way onto an invite list.
There's a lot of different ways to do that.
I don't know what they all are, but it's half family reunion, half political rally.
Well, the amazing thing is, uh, I meet people every time that are new, so there's ways that new people are getting there.
I met three guys at the last one who said not only is their first NJP event, it's the first white nationalist event ever.
So, I was like, fantastic.
So, yeah, yeah, well, it's incredible.
Uh, you know, we get more people every time, and we have a core of people that have basically shown up to every event, but there's always a very, very large amount of people that I've never seen before.
And it's like, if I haven't seen you, that's saying something, right?
Because you go to everything because you don't have really any other life.
No, I don't have a wife or kids or a job or anything.
I will, I will say this just objectively.
Uh, it's funny because when we do these events, I'm like, so in like a high-stress mode, it's a good stress, but it's a lot, but it's a high-stress mode because there's so many little things I'm thinking about and trying to not forget, and people's names I'm trying not to forget.
And I don't actually really enjoy it until a couple of days after when I look back on it.
But if I was just objectively, and not to fan our balls here, but if I was an attendee at one of these things and I've been to a lot of white nationalist events, I would say these are these are among the best events of any kind, of any political event, period, I've ever been to in my life.
And uh, yeah, that that that that's I'm very proud of it.
Just don't worry, just don't let the remembering people's names stress you out.
Like, I know, yeah, we gotta like, dude, it just doesn't matter, like, you know, it's like whatever next time.
We just have fun, and when I see people, I'm like, oh, I remember you.
And if I don't, I'm like, have I met you before?
And like, no one gives a shit.
Even if I have met them before, I just ask.
I just have I met you before because you know, maybe I have.
You know, I remember Jesse talking about that.
He was like, oh, nice to meet you.
And he's like, yeah, it's the fourth time, asshole.
Well, once it's the fourth time, that's a little extreme, but it's like, you know, there's a lot of people.
You know what stresses me out?
People I've known for like two years, I don't know their name.
Yeah.
That's how you ask.
I'm really good with faces.
I'm really bad with names.
So, for example, I dropped a plane off when I was still in the army in the middle of nowhere in A state in the middle of nowhere that most people have never been to.
It basically doesn't exist.
And we stopped by Walmart to get food because this was an all-day thing.
And I was in the middle of this Walmart in the middle of nowhere.
It was like more flyover country than flyover country.
And I saw a guy and I was like, don't I know you?
And he kind of looked at me.
He was like taken aback a little bit.
And I was like, You were at Mania, weren't you?
And he was like, Yeah, dude, who are you?
I was like, bro.
So, you know, I've got a real good, real good with faces, terrible with names.
Smasher, while we're here with you, thank you, brother.
As always, you've been flying with us, co-piloting from the beginning.
Bless you and your wife, your twins, and your twins on the way.
Hey, I'm just happy I can say nigger.
It was all for you.
You probably were the one who pushed the issue.
We'll see you soon again.
All right.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me, Coach.
And congratulations on what is the two years.
You hit like a second.
Two years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Congratulations.
Wow.
Thanks, Mike.
The real, yeah.
Yeah.
Labor love doing great.
And the real accomplishment is making it through this show with my internet.
Sorry, I'll stop complaining.
It's been three hours of, I can't really hear everybody clearly, but that's okay.
I'm not going to belly ache about it as long as it came through clearly.
Oh, you guys sound clear as a bell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's in my ears.
It's all been like that's a real 80s reference there.
Well, your upload rate.
Your upload rate seems to be fine because your voice is coming through perfectly fine.
Yeah, I don't know.
This is our first time using this platform.
We're using a third-party streaming platform to get into D Live.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
So it could be that.
Yeah.
I'm actually on a cellular router.
So our DSL performs worse than this little box that picks up the cell phone signals.
So, yeah, right.
All right.
Smasher, thank you.
Thank you, buddy.
Let's go to A. Are you using what they call Wi-Fi?
I don't know if you guys heard of this before.
I got repeaters.
Maybe you could take a look at my setup, Mike.
I don't know.
You're belly wick, but yeah.
Check into Wi-Fi.
My parents in West Virginia.
There's no cell phone signal there.
So the little wireless cell phone thing isn't even an option.
I have to do the satellite.
But yeah, no, thanks for.
I'll keep it short, Coach.
Thanks for having me on.
Hail, you guys.
Hail, Sam.
Hail, Smasher.
Hail your producer there.
Hail the NJP.
Love you guys all.
I'm going to check out two.
Thanks.
And follow modern politics on Telegram and follow modern politics.
See you, Mike.
Yep.
See you later.
See you.
Mr. Producer told me not to put my camera on.
Thank you, though, Ahab.
And Sammy Baby.
Yes.
Yeah, man.
What a great show.
That was an incredible array of guests and topics.
And I'm just blown away.
My head's swimming right now.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I can't wait to listen for real.
And thank you for being with us from the beginning as well.
My pleasure.
All right.
We're saving our best for last, which means we are not saving Mr. Producer for right now.
Mr. Producer, thank you very much, buddy.
You're welcome.
Thanks, everybody, in the chat.
Thanks.
Thanks for making it a great two years.
And we're going to stick around for a long time.
We really believe in what we're doing.
You guys don't know, but like after every show, we all hang out in the call and we're like, man, we got the greatest job in the world.
And we really feel like we're doing something that's important.
And thank you guys for listening.
Amen.
Thank you, Mr. Producer.
Bless you and your family.
Before we say goodbye to Nat Scott and let him tee up our goodbye to this episode and Navigating the Collapse, I want to tease that we're going to have an Easter egg at the end of Navigating the Collapse, which is a phone call, voicemail that I got from a prisoner behind bars, our guy, doing serious time.
Any time is serious, but he's got many years.
And we've been email corresponding after corresponding by letter.
And he actually offered, he said, hey, I could call you from the clink if you want.
So he gave us a short one for this show.
And it might actually become a full big house segment where we try to give a little bit of a voice to our guys behind the wire.
So don't end this show until the very end.
Coach, are you going to play that or do you need me to play that?
I have the file and I can try to play it.
We can try to add it now that we got some free slots here because it's like when I play a file that takes up one of the 10 slots.
But I don't want to steal any thunder from my dear friend, great man, committed, principled gentleman in the cause.
Nathaniel Scott, take us out of episode 87 with Navigating the Collapse.
Good morning, Lord.
See you next week.
Put them up.
White Pala.
Thank you, audience.
Thank you, D-Live.
We love you.
We love all of our fans.
We'll talk to you next week.
Here's Navigating the Collapse and a phone call from behind.
Welcome to Navigating the Collapse with your host, Nathaniel Scott.
If you're like me and have an office job sitting in a computer for most of the day, then you'll be very familiar with the pains of bad posture.
Posture is essential.
It makes you more attractive, keeps you healthy, and can prevent headaches and other pains.
One study showed that for every inch you slouch your head forward, you add 10 pounds of pressure to your spine.
Here are a few exercises for improving your posture.
The torso is an interconnected machine with many parts.
So to fix one area, you'll likely need to attend to other areas as well.
Slouching doesn't just affect the spine, but the chest also.
To counter this, you can stretch your chest open in a door frame by putting your arm at a right angle against the frame and moving forward through the doorway.
Hold for a few seconds and repeat with the other arm.
Another exercise is called shoulder dislocations, but don't worry, they're not as bad as they sound.
Grip a bar, pipe, or broomstick in front of you with an overhand grip.
Your hands should be fairly wide apart.
Without changing your grip or moving your hands, rotate your shoulders until the bar is behind you, touching your back.
Then bring it back to the front.
Eventually, you'll want to narrow your grip to get a better stretch.
You can also do prone Y extensions.
Lay face down on the ground with your arms and body in the shape of a Y. Flex your lower back and lift your torso off the ground with your arms still outstretched.
Rotate your arms so that the palms will be facing each other at the top of the motion.
Hold that position for a few seconds, then lower back down and repeat.
And finally, wall angels.
Press your head and entire back against the wall with your feet off the wall and knees slightly bent.
Put your arms out, bent 90 degrees at the elbows.
Then raise your arms above your head.
Lower them back down to the starting position and repeat.
While it seems very simple and easy, you will definitely start to feel the strain after a few repetitions.
And now, José Antonio Primo de Rivera at a funeral, April 11th, 1935.
Another fallen comrade on the altars of love.
He knew how to fulfill a sacred mission within the phalange, and the Marxian lead cut short his life before crossing the threshold of the Patria reborn.
For fighting for love, hate has slain him.
Comrade, your sacrifice shall not be in vain.
All we who can still raise our arm in salutation over your grave know how to follow your magnificent example.
We are all ready, like you, to come to the supreme sacrifice in order to fulfill our mission.
Mission in the pure sense of the word, the religious sense.
Spain, which is not a territory nor a fantasy born of overheated imaginations, but a reality intangible and supreme.
Spain, which is the efforts of our brothers, the glorious examples of our fathers, and the fertile blood of our forebears, is threatening to die today through cowardly neglect.
And it is we, the national syndicalists, who are called to come to her aid, to succor her, to help her rise again.
Blessed be the phalange if it leads us to death for Spain.
We have always before us that Spain is one unity of destiny.
In the future, let us know how to prove, face to the world and face to the sun, with Spanish pride, that if we are boys in age, we yet are men enough to die and live for Spain in the fulfillment of a holy duty.
I counsel you to close your ears to those people who, now as always, will be piteously lamenting our comrade and may perhaps advise you to go all out for reprisals.
I ask you to show them by your behavior now, you are able to endure all things, drawing your spirits and courage from the blood of our brothers.
That blood which is again becoming the rich fertilizer of a future harvest from Spanish soil, that you may pursue your path undaunted.
Perhaps they will tell you in insufferably patronizing tones that you should not stay in our ranks, that you should take a grown man's advice and give up this madness.
Reply that men are not measured by bodily growth or spoken words.
Men are to be seen and measured in the field of deeds, of action, which is our field.
And if it is true that we are mad, blessed be the madness of this love of ours, which leads us to bestow on our native land the most precious thing she has given us, our blood.
Tell them roundly and make them clearly understand that they are the ones responsible for our comrades' death by their selfishness, incompetence, and cowardice.
That this life and death problem that Spain is confronted with cannot be solved by words.
That while they sit in their houses or in cafes putting Spain to rights, we are out in the streets of Spain, which seem destined to be continually watered with the blood of her sons, cruelly and treacherously murdered for the sole crime of possessing hearts, of possessing, above all, the hearts that they lack themselves.
And finally, that we had sooner all of us die to the last man than go on wallowing in infamy and shame.
Once more we find ourselves called to render funeral homage to a fallen comrade.
Vile, cowardly, base-born is the man who would draw back from the front rank.
Such a one is not worthy to be called a comrade of the dead in this supreme brotherhood of the phalange.
Once more, phalange, attention!
All in line of battle in the van as always and more than ever before.
There is one more now among the martyrs of Spain, Jose Garcia Vara.
Presente Ariba España!
Hey, fam.
Good to be able to say hey to everybody.
I hope everyone's doing well out there.
I'm doing as good as can be.
You know, keeping my head up every day, no matter what is going on with all this China coup and lockdowns and stuff like that.
But, you know, my head's still up.
I have no regrets at all.
You know, if given the choice over again between selling out all my friends and taking time, there's no amount of time in the world that can ever make your honor and your word and your name go back.
So if anyone out there has ever faced a similar situation, just keep that in mind.
And I'll just leave y'all with one of my personal most inspiring quotes that I look to on probably a weekly and sometimes daily basis that goes,
How can a man die better than facing fearful odds than for the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his gods?
So I wish all y'all out there, you know, a safe and happy time doing whatever you got going on.
But just keep putting one foot in front of the other and we're going to make something happen.
No amount of struggle or sacrifice will ever be in vase.