Since this show premiered in April 2019, we focus mainly on fatherhood and for lack of a better term, white guy stuff.
This has been intentional because discussing parenting is a lot more fun, arguably more important, and frankly, less fraught with danger than the other just as vital side of our coin, marriage and husband stuff.
Our wives listen to the show, and we wouldn't exactly enjoy them podcasting about our relationships and their inevitable ups and downs.
But we do wade into those hazardous waters occasionally.
And this week, we are delighted to welcome back two bold souls generous enough to share their experiences of marriages gone wrong and that ended in divorce.
So, mr producer, brace for impact.
Welcome everyone
to full house.
Episode 81.
Very auspicious.
My birth year.
We are the world's most honest show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole biofam.
I am, as always, your happily married host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours of bravery in broadcasting.
Before we meet the birth panel this week, though, big thanks to ZJ and Z for their support this week.
What ZJ stands for, I don't know, Zyklon John, maybe.
Also, thanks to a couple guys who just became regular donors as well.
But they were so secure in their manhood that they requested not to be named.
So thank you guys too.
And to modify our old pal, Tiny Tim, God bless you, all of you.
And with that, let's get on to the birth panel.
First up, true to form, he's got this week's featured topic under his life experience belt as well.
When informed of what we'd be talking about, he exclaimed, divorce?
I was already divorced when these guys were spilling their Gerber all over their bibs.
Sam, you tough bastard.
Welcome on the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a grim topic, but it definitely needs to be addressed, you know.
But hey, coach, I was going through the catechism this week with my youngest son, and he's still in that formative years.
We're reading the catechism, and we came across this picture in the book, and it says, as the caption, it says, all the nations thou hast made, thou hast made, shall come and adore before thee, O Lord, and they shall glorify thy name.
That's from the Psalms.
And there's this beautiful old plate of this picture, and it's all white people surrounding the altar.
And then there's God in heaven with Christ sitting next to him, and it's all white people adoring them.
So that's all the nations that God has made.
I put a picture in our little chat.
Maybe if I could request, please put that in the show notes or wherever you think it could fit.
Sure.
But, you know, I love going through this old traditional Catholic stuff.
And once you have the eyes to see, You see so much racial stuff in it, you know.
And I've been involved for the better part of my adult life in this Christian identity movement, which probably some people think is crazy.
But I would say, you know, check it out, you know.
And this book is Father John Law, Catholic Morality.
It's book three, A Course in Religion.
You can get it from tanbooks.com.
But anyways, I wanted to mention that.
And also, please, if you would post the picture of the model my youngest son and I have been making the Nazi U-boat.
We finally finished it.
And let me tell you, the final stages of it, I kind of took over the reins there because it was some subtle work.
But we got it done.
And there it is.
I would ask the listeners to check out and look at the picture.
But making models is a great pastime with your kids.
And, you know, you learn a lot about whatever the thing you're making too, because of all the little parts and everything like that.
But it's great to be here.
Yeah.
The boat looked awesome.
Just the other day, Sam, we got an email from a young guy listener who was asking about Christianity and whether Jesus was white.
So I'm going to point him toward your autobiography on the site.
And we got about maybe a quarter left to post, and then I will just post the entire thing in its entirety because it got a little clunky doing the segments there.
Yeah.
Definitely.
You know, I mean, I'd really, I mean, I try to live the example, what I preach, and I would encourage all the listeners to look into this.
Read my autobiography, see the way my ideas have developed.
I mean, look at me here today.
I have to admit, coach, I'm kind of deep into this Norwegian Aquavit.
It's 93 proof.
I'm a little deep into it, you know, but I'm wearing a brand new black metal hoodie that I just got from psalmpresage.tk.
It's a Czech site, but it's a French guy.
Psalm S-O-M-B-R-E-P-R-E-S-A-G-E.
Maybe I'll put it in the show notes.
And, you know, I'm reading the traditional Catholic stuff.
And here we are, two weeks into Lent.
I've neglected to bring that up in the past couple of shows, but I wonder if the listeners are getting into Lent.
It's a deep part of our faith and something that's good for us to contemplate and do a little extra fasting and penance and things like that.
Sure thing.
All right, Chad and Kathy.
Yeah, Sam had to hit the hooch to summon the courage to talk about his ex-wife.
That's what's really going on here.
All right.
Next up, he's not divorced, but he's always one caper away from the distinct possibility.
I'm kidding.
Potato Smasher.
Welcome, buddy.
You know, I'm not divorced.
I hope I never get divorced, but I would like to add two, three, four, five more wives to the mix.
Well, now that you got two more in the oven, it's like, yeah, where are you going to go, honey?
You need my help.
I'm kidding.
You guys are great.
Your wife is a saint, and you're not half bad yourself.
Yeah, I'm okay.
Sometimes.
Let it be known that Smasher is, in fact, a human with blood flowing through his veins.
He's a little tired this week.
He's only going to be here with us for the first half.
So condensed fed posting this week.
And I'd just like to announce that I made a post after the latest Twitter purge.
I got on Post.
If you guys are familiar, it's like a Twitter clone.
Heard about it.
Probably run by feds.
Yeah, whatever.
P-O.A-S-T or something like that.
P-O-A.st.
Okay.
I almost had it.
Unlike this podcast, you can say.
All right.
Yes.
Hopefully that will be bleeped.
Mr. Producer, make a note of that.
All right.
Moving on.
Here comes our special guests.
You may have heard this one on such podcasts as Hate House and Full House.
He is the Reich's Fuhrer of rental properties, the death pimp of pit bulls.
And the only human I know still slumming it on Reddit to red pill or just plain infuriate the normies.
Great ape, Niggy.
How the hell are you?
Better than I deserve.
How are you doing today, Coach?
I'm doing delightful.
Spring is in the air.
I'm out in the gazebo.
It's not below freezing and really excited to get into our topic.
We're chewing up airtime though, Niggy.
So what's on your mind here at the top?
Well, like you said, I've been, I like to mess with people on Reddit, but lately I've really got into screwing with people on TikTok because they don't moderate as much as Reddit does.
TikTok is absolutely hilarious because these people are just insane.
And just a little pushback against them just drives them nuts.
They make reaction videos and they're crying and tears.
Like on Reddit, it's just text, you know?
But you get to see these people just absolutely almost kill themselves because you said mean things to them.
And I find that funny.
It just makes me feel great.
Yeah, I'm not trying to be too cool for school.
There's so many damn platforms and you can chew up so much time.
I think about like, there was probably a couple nights where I stayed up, you know, two hours later than I wanted to, red-pilling one individual person on Twitter, you know, back and forth and in the DMs.
Like, where is that guy now?
Did it make a difference or was it water on a pane of glass?
I don't know.
But you do go hard, Niggy.
So good work.
You got good rhetoric.
I think it always makes a difference because I'm sure you've met people that have you red-pilled that you didn't think that you did.
I've had lots of people come to me saying, oh, I got red-pilled on Coontown, you know?
Sure.
It was five, six years ago.
Exactly.
You never know when you're making a difference in somebody's life for the better, sincerely.
So thank you for your service, sir.
Bring some of that talent to the show.
Nigga is always right.
That's what Mr. Producer thinks.
I'm not entirely sure.
It's true.
All right.
And finally, it's been a while, but absence only makes racist hearts grow fonder.
He basically nailed COVID for us one year ago when everyone was running around with their hair on fire.
And he hates the enemy just as much as he loves his lovely wife and precious daughter.
Rusty, is our arranged marriage still looking good?
We're on track.
Not ours, but our kids.
Yeah.
Oh, you know it, Coach.
You know it.
All right.
Thanks for having me on tonight.
Hot damn.
Our pleasure to have you back on.
And thank you for volunteering to talk about divorce.
The motivation, the inspiration for doing the show was just an innocent email from a listener asking if we knew divorce attorneys in a certain part of the country.
And I had to say no.
I'm sorry, buddy, but you do raise an excellent question.
We have touched on divorce tangentially, I guess, via Sam.
Sam does have one divorce under his belt, which is sincerely a source of sadness for him, but he turned it around.
And you and Niggy have as well.
So we are going to dedicate most, if not all, of this first hour to talking about the psychology as well as the practical effects of it from money to kids to lawyers and legal impacts and all the rest of it.
I did a little bit of homework before the show To just show that, yes, in fact, statistics do show that between 70 and 80 percent of American divorces are initiated by the women.
That's not to say that women are all the home wreckers or whatever.
That's just a statistic.
That's the truth.
And we need to be aware of what's going on out there.
That jumps to 90% when the married, when the wife is college-educated.
So be careful, guys, out there with college-educated wives.
Also, divorce rates have actually been declining in the United States since the year 2000.
They were 4 per thousand in 2000, and they dropped to 2.9 in 2018.
That was the last year I found data.
So about a 25% decrease.
However, marriage rates were declining almost in line with that over the same period from 8.2 per thousand in 2000 to 6.5 in 2018.
So yeah, fewer marriages, fewer divorces as well.
Let's start with Niggy, and I'll let you couch this as you want.
Give us a little bit of background, not too long, but what happened with the marriage when you knew it was going wrong and when you or she decided to break it off?
Well, honestly, she basically just changed as a person the second we got married.
And I've heard that this is actually more common than you would think.
Just like she just, it was like a switch flipped.
Like she was normal and then she was batshit insane.
And I tried, honestly, I tried everything I could to make it work for a year and a half, two years before it was just inevitable that divorce was going to happen.
And when it reached that point, I was in the military at that point.
Her father was actually retired Army, so she knew how the military worked.
And whenever things started getting to where, you know, we were getting in the process of getting a divorce, she actually used her knowledge to make things, life much more difficult for me.
Just an example, she called the post commander, you know, you're talking like a two-star general or something, and told him that my command sergeant major was trying to kick her out of government housing, you know, out of the post-housing.
And my command sergeant major was like brand new to our unit.
And he didn't know who I was.
He didn't know who she was.
All I know is that I was getting called to my command sergeant major's office along with my first sergeant and my platoon sergeant and my squad leader.
And they're all being chewed out.
And I'm just sitting there like, I think I'm going to end up dying before this day is over.
Because that's the absolute last thing you want is, you know, the Command Sergeant Major to be chewing out your first sergeant because of just your ex or soon-to-be ex-wife just making up random crap.
And why were they giving them a hard time instead of you?
Chain of command.
He was giving them a hard time.
Yeah, he was giving them a hard time.
And they were going to give me a hard time.
Trust me, that's a hard time is going to be very physical, and it's going to be a lot of screaming and a lot of privileges taken away, you know, because in the military, they own you.
And because we were in the process of doing divorce, I was back in the barracks.
They essentially put me on like all kinds of restriction where I couldn't go anywhere or do anything.
Sure.
You know, it was just absolutely insane.
Like I couldn't, I couldn't even go eat.
I couldn't even go eat without an escort.
Like it got pretty bad there for a while.
So what's your honest guess about what happened?
I guess my first question is, you know, were you guys both madly in love in a normal, healthy way?
And then like very soon after the marriage, do you think it was mental illness?
Do you think the military stuff she wanted out?
Or yeah, what's your assessment?
I definitely believe that there's a big level of mental illness on her part.
And also, I don't know how bad it was when we were married, but I do know that after we got divorced, like she got really into drugs and stuff.
Not just stuff like weed, but she was doing meth and pills and everything else.
So there might have been a level of drugs involved during the year.
Well, that's what we do.
That's what we do when we don't hear from you after a couple of weeks, too.
So it's completely understandable.
But yeah, I think there was a bit of a mental illness.
I think there was drugs.
I think she's also like a very big narcissist.
She wants to be the center of attention.
She wants everyone to look at her.
She wants everyone to feel bad for her.
Like she always has to have some sort of drama going on where everyone should come and pat her on the back and comfort her and help her and do whatever.
Right.
And for the ladies in the audience, just so you know, this is not hate on women first hour of a full house.
This is hate on ex-wife first hour of a full house.
No, not even, we want to get to the bottom of this.
All right.
So did she initiate it?
Did you initiate it?
What happened with the split?
Yeah.
And how long after you were married?
Well, when it comes to the actual court stuff, she initiated court because, A, I couldn't afford it.
And B, she had her family to pay for all of her stuff.
When it comes to splitting, like me finally moving back to the barracks, it was pretty much mutual at that point.
Like I just couldn't take it anymore.
But what I will say is I got a very big lesson on how the American family court system works.
And like, like I, I do, I did have, I did have children with her at the time.
And, and, um, they marriage lasted enough for children.
It wasn't.
You didn't get divorced right after.
Yeah.
Okay.
You, you tried to make it work for a while despite suffering.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I will say this is like all the rumors about how like it's not just a meme.
Like men get steamrolled in family court.
Like there, there's no if, ands, or buts about it.
And my biggest advice to anyone that's planning on getting married, getting married, whatever, is to, like, even if you commingle finances, have a separate savings account that you put money in each week, each month, whatever you can put in as an insurance policy.
Because if the day comes when she blocks, let's say everything's great, because you hear this a lot, everything's great.
And then the woman just blindsides the guy with divorce.
You want to have the ability to have, you know, that $10,000 to $20,000, you know, because divorce is expensive, especially when there's kids.
You want to have that money that you can get a good lawyer immediately.
And that's something that you could use for the proceedings before everything gets divvied up, I guess.
Your divorce war chest in effect.
Okay.
And the reason I say this is, and even if you think everything's working fine, get that savings account set up.
And if she, like one day she might find out about it and she'll get mad, just tell her that you were secretly planning, you know, a 20-year anniversary or something.
We're going to take a trip in 20 years.
We're going to Hawaii.
And who knows?
Divorces happen after 20 years, but it's less likely.
So if things are going great in 20 years, and you feel comfortable, use that account for a big 20th anniversary celebration, or maybe renewal of vows and stuff.
Yeah, one of my favorite savings account anyway.
Yeah.
You don't really need to explain that, I don't think.
Yeah.
Well, when it comes to divorce, I mean, hiding finances is not a good thing, obviously, right?
So they're going to find out and it's going to quote unquote be community property.
But if you have commingled money and you take 20 grand out of it for a lawyer, they're going to say that half of that money is hers and it's just going to be a big thing.
You're still probably going to have to disclose it at some point that you had this account.
But it kind of gives you a little wiggle room, you know, because if you have it commingled, she could just take it and get a lawyer, you know?
Sure.
So definitely have your own account and prepare for these things.
And if you're in the military, one of my biggest recommendations is go to JAG because whichever spouse goes to JAG first is the one that gets the free legal advice.
Because if they're representing you when it comes to family law, and they're not going to represent you in court, obviously, but they can give you legal advice.
If she comes to them for legal advice, they can't give her legal advice because it's conflict of interest.
I mentioned that last show.
Yeah, Tony Soprano going and calling every best divorce lawyer in North Jersey so that Carmella couldn't use them.
Yeah, because he spoiled the will.
It's a real thing.
Yeah, I'm sure you could do it outside too, but that's something else that happened to me: I went to get free legal advice and I couldn't because she went and talked to him, even though she wasn't using them as an attorney.
So I definitely got railroaded.
And one of the biggest ways I got railroaded was money because I couldn't afford a proper lawyer.
What I could afford just basically rubber stamped, you know, everything.
And, you know, that, you know, all they're asking for this.
So we're going to have to, they wouldn't fight for anything, you know?
So it's, it's definitely, it's, it, it does affect, it affects your life in more ways than you can imagine.
You know, like the break apart, breaking apart a family, you know, it sounds bad enough, but it'll affect you in ways that you can't even think of.
Like it took me years to get my credit fixed.
You know, the whole Dave Ramsey thing.
Luckily, I heard about him before I got divorced.
So I was able to fix it quicker than I would have otherwise.
But it messed up my credit.
Of course, I got out of the military.
So that means I lost my house, my job, my insurance.
I had to move 1,200 miles back home.
And, you know, so there was a, it wasn't just like the separation of family.
Like my entire life changed.
Before I forget, one of the best pieces of advice I ever got was your choice of mate is one of, if not the most important choice that you make.
So we talk a lot about just get a good girl, get a nice girl, get a pretty one and have a big family, but do not be haphazard before you propose laddies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've seen a lot of people do this is they get a girl, they date her for three or four months, and then they go and propose.
And, you know, they don't know her.
They don't, you know, and I think that's part of ours is we didn't know each other well enough.
Even though she changed like instantly when we married, maybe if I had known her, you know, six months longer or a year, whatever, it could have been, you know, some of those things could have shown up, you know, bubbled to the surface.
If I could interject, if this was a healthy white society, that would be different.
Then you could follow your nature, which is you want to be with a woman.
You want to take care of her.
You want to be married.
But because this is a Jewish type of a society, you have to be cynical and careful and all those things.
Like you said.
I kind of envy how it used to be.
It used to be like, no, nobody really traveled maybe 30 miles from where you lived.
Right.
Definitely wasn't any social media.
All you had to communicate was letters and phone.
And basically, you married some girl that you knew from school.
You know what I mean?
She might have been your grade or a couple of grades under, but you married someone, you know, the Joneses down the road.
You married their daughter, you know.
And now, Nikki, you said that you got screwed over.
The process was painful.
I'm sure that you were mentally hurting for a while after that, I'm assuming.
But you ended up okay.
And also, well, I'll just say, yeah, it turned out okay for you.
How did you make lemons into lemonade?
Well, one thing I did is I eventually did get remarried.
I've been married for well over a decade now.
So that definitely helps.
And, you know, I kind of bounced around.
Like, if you heard my resume, you would be like, none of it makes any sense, like the weird, random stuff that I've done.
But male gigalo, exotic.
Yeah, just all kinds of crazy stuff.
But so I kind of bounced around, but I always kept trying to, every step I took, make myself better than where I was before.
So like, even though they're weird steps, it was always, you know, improvement.
And what I do now is, I mean, honestly, it's purely geared towards making money.
I'll admit that in a heartbeat.
But my big thing is, you know, success is the best revenge.
You know, I've got a great family.
I've got a great life.
I'm going to be making an absolute ton of money.
And, you know, and she's where she's at.
And I can just laugh my ass off.
Do you try to seek her out on the internet and troller anonymously?
Is that probably not a good idea?
Probably, probably not a good idea because this woman, like I said, she's absolutely insane.
She called because we live, like I said, about 1,200 miles apart.
And she called the police there one day saying I was following her and threatening her, like making threatening gestures at her, like, you know, the finger across the neck thing and stuff like that, like finger guns.
I don't know what she's just saying I was following her and making threatening gestures.
Pew pew, bitch.
I don't know.
No matter if I pretend pistols.
The thing is, it's like I was, I was literally like 1,200 miles away.
And what I did is I didn't even go to court where she was because she filed a restraining warrant.
I just got a knock on the door from my local sheriff saying, you've been served.
And I'm reading all this crap that she made up.
So I go, I actually went to a restaurant with my wife the day before she said that I was doing all this.
And it was for dinner.
And so I went there and it was a Mexican place.
And I was asking them because, because, you know, like you go to a restaurant, most restaurants, you have to sign the receipt, right?
And I was like, can I get a copy of that signed receipt from this date?
And the woman didn't know what I was talking about.
She barely spoke English.
So her daughter had to help me.
But they got me a copy of that signed receipt showing that at 7 p.m. I was eating Mexican food 1,200 miles away from this woman.
So I just sent that to the judge.
And it's like, look, this is signed and dated right here.
I don't know what to tell you.
If I was in the same community as her, if I was in the same city, it doesn't even matter how big the city is.
If I hadn't have been so far away and able to prove it, they would have put that protective order on me.
And you know, it all comes with protective orders.
You can't own weapons.
You can't do all kinds of stuff, you know?
Yeah, it's probably 10 times worse today than it was when you were going through this.
Yeah.
So it's absolutely insane.
And that's what I'm telling these people is like these women, if they wanted to, they can make up any lie.
Like every single one of you men listening, if you're going through a divorce, she could literally make up something to the court, lie.
You might not even be anywhere around her.
She'll lie, get a protective order on her, and then use that for like custody or something.
Oh, he's got a protective order on him because he's abusive, so he can't be around the kids.
They will do that stuff.
And the only thing that protected me from that protective order she was trying to get was the fact that I was literally a third of the way across the country.
Right.
And with our views, think about all the stuff they could throw at the wall.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
You know, he's a Nazi and he's indoctrinating the kids and this, that, and probably 10 more worse falsehoods, et cetera.
Mr. Producer says they should have marriage insurance.
The policy kicks in when divorce is filed.
I have never heard of marriage insurance.
Thank you, Mr. Producer.
That is awesome.
I love that idea.
Like, that's a business idea.
That's awesome.
It's like, yeah, there's prenups, which, God, we've never talked about prenups.
I always thought that they were like, you know, admitting failure in advance, but I guess a good idea to protect yourselves on both sides.
There's also postnumps.
Sure.
You can get a postnump.
So if you're already married, but you didn't have a prenup, you can get a postnump.
I mean, I don't know how that would go across, you know, walking up to your wife saying, hey, will you sign this postnump agreement?
But that is an option.
We're going to pivot to Rusty here and we can come back to more practical, functional stuff.
I have other questions too, but we want to give you guys good airtime and also get to Sam to dig in on his.
Remember, the intent is to share stories, but also add value.
I assume that we have listeners.
Well, I know we have listeners out there who are divorced.
I assume we have listeners who are married and the guys or the women are maybe sweating that this might be a possibility down the road.
And no, that's not me.
So, Rusty, you went through a rough one and it was rough for you and you overcame.
Feel free to lay out the basics of what happened, I guess, first.
Yeah, I think the highlights of my story are more the psychological impact rather than the practical material impact that Nikki went through.
And it's hard to compare two men's experience with divorce.
And in a way, you could say they're always going to be incomparable.
It's a very individual experience.
I can tell you, it's painful no matter what.
In my case, I fell in love young.
And as Sam was saying earlier, we should live in a society where that's all it takes.
If you're lucky enough to fall in love with a beautiful young woman, the marriage works out and there are no problems.
But unfortunately, in the society, one has to, I think, keep a stronger guard up and not necessarily have a jaded perspective, but perhaps I wasn't learned in the ways of the world enough.
But I fell in love.
According to those around me, there were signs I should have been privy to in her behavior.
But I wasn't.
I was just head over heels in love.
And people say love's a drug.
And I can tell you in my early 20s, it really was that way.
I mean, she was undeniably beautiful and everything, but there were things I overlooked.
And by things that made marriage, right?
Before marriage.
She apparently had struggled with an eating disorder for some years.
When I met her, it was, let's call it well-controlled or what have you.
Well, or so I thought, at least on the surface.
I mean, she looked great and everything was sweet and nice.
And so I thought, you know, I'd do my duty as a man.
You know, I've been, you know, engaging in premarital relations with this woman for some time and we're in love.
So the right thing to do is get married.
It's my early 20s.
We did.
For our employment or what have you, we had to do some distance before we got married, but right after college.
And only in retrospect did I see some signs of infidelity on her part, cheating, text messages and things.
And I just bought her lying stories, lying, hook, and sinker for at least a year and a half.
So the denial in retrospect was, you know, unbelievable.
Well, seemingly unbelievable, but it makes sense.
I mean, you're in love and you want to trust someone, right?
We should be able to trust other people.
How long was that after you were married?
So when I looked back at the evidence for her infidelity, it predated our marriage by at least six months, where other men probably would have considered it overt evidence.
But I was like, nah, this can't happen to me sort of thing.
Denial and just put it away, you know, and believed her lies.
And like Nikki was saying, you know, a lot of women who have issues, it is on the personality disorder spectrum.
In the case of my ex-wife, I think it was some combination of histrionic personality disorder, you know, perhaps some not necessarily bipolar disorder, but the splitting behavior she would have and wild durations.
But ultimately, it wasn't too soon after we finally were able to cohabitate and live together that her substance abuse problems began to come out.
And by substance abuse, I mean alcoholism.
And it's kind of, you know, when you're in your early 20s, when you have time to drink, you, you know, go get drunk or whatever.
You don't think too much about it.
But after a couple of months, I think it's Tuesday morning and she just hit a whole bottle of vodka.
And, you know, stumbling.
Yeah, red alert.
Yep.
And so this sort of behavior got worse and worse.
And, you know, I sent her back to her parents.
And so, you know, her parents at this point are seen her behavior as well.
And I don't want to say that, you know, they were against their daughter.
They weren't.
We both were trying to get her better.
But they were sort of in my camp.
And her father would call me exasperated with her behavior.
And this went on back and forth.
And meanwhile, there's accumulating evidence that she's cheating on me and everything.
And I continued to grin and bear it for about another year.
And finally, we had to make another move to another city.
And I couldn't afford the apartment we were going to live in.
Once I realized that I had to send her home permanently.
And so I had been hiding this from my family and my godfather for the better part of two years in Nonwar.
And I finally broke down.
It was a very emotional experience for me because it was one of my, it was what I consider to be my first major failure in life.
So I took it personally as a like I failed and something that is the most important thing.
You know, I fell in love with this woman, wouldn't have a family, and I completely failed.
And I was ashamed and embarrassed.
And it took a lot for me to admit that to my family.
I mean, I think we can all imagine the feelings of betrayal and the feeling of being enraged, the absolutely incensed.
I mean, and right boiling beneath the surface, the desire for revenge in some way.
But after a while, that went away.
Like I knew the relationship was over, but it still took me some time to come to terms with divorce, admit to my family that this was necessary.
In fact, you know, my mother and my godfather were when I first, you know, I'm literally in tears describing it to them.
They were like, you have to divorce her.
It's obvious.
You know, you have no choice.
The choice has been made unto you.
So you initiated it.
How did you?
Well, we were in a restaurant the last time we were together.
And we, you know, like with, if you've ever been with a woman that has a personality disorder or substance abuse disorder, you could, it could take two days to describe the travails of one day with that woman.
But every hour would be different.
You know what I mean?
But we split our little separate ways.
And I said, meet me for dinner.
And if you come drunk, that's it permanently.
And she came drunk and I walked out of the restaurant and I called her dad and I said, Your daughter is here at this address and staying in this hotel.
I'm getting a different hotel and you're going to have to drive all night and pick her up.
And that was the last time I ever saw her.
And so the logistics were...
Call a lawyer the next day?
No.
For me, it wasn't that hard because we didn't have any kids.
You know, we barely had any money.
We were in our early 20s.
There was basically no money to split up.
And her parents were in my corner.
And she was effectively becoming more and more helpless, like medically, you know, from her substance abuse and other things.
And so her dad just, we just kind of split the, I mean, it's trivial.
Like, so the sort of long-term positive for me is that I was able to sort of, you know, take a razor blade to this quickly without having all the other complications, children, finances, properties, things like that.
So it was relatively inexpensive.
So, yeah, I don't know, maybe less than $1,000 to hire a basic divorce attorney for, I didn't even have to go to court.
You know, I trusted, I still, I still trust my ex-father-in-law.
I haven't talked to him in a decade, but he's a good man, and I trusted him.
And he basically went there and filled up the money and it was cheap and the divorce was clean.
But my big lesson was that, you know, I really didn't know women.
I wasn't socialized and prepared to evaluate what kind of traits do you really want in a partner.
At this juncture, I'm lucky to be remarried to a beautiful woman and a wonderful mother, the best person I could ever hope to meet.
But I don't think I would have been prepared as far as maturity and perspective goes to meet and form this relationship with this woman I'm with now, my wife, had I not gone through this experience because I spent multiple, you were down in a hole.
Well, I was down in a hole and I did, you know, it sounds corny, but I did self-development and I went through game and pickup for a while and realized that womanization is not the path to fulfillment either.
You know, that the, whether it's the, you know, morality of it or what have you, it's just not fulfilling.
It becomes like, you know, collecting toys or collecting trading cards after a while becomes really not fulfilling.
And self-development is useful when you're trying to build yourself and others up.
And in our case, you know, our race and our people.
And, you know, I always had a racialist angle.
I wasn't living in that way so overtly back then.
But it still allowed me to grow to the perspective of I'm not settling down until I meet the woman that I know I want to marry.
And I think, whereas before I had a weakness of sort of needing someone else, I think, you know, that was part of it too.
When I was young, I had the sense like, I need to be married.
I need to be with someone.
It'll look good if I'm with someone.
So I had a lot of, I was externalizing a lot of needs too.
And once I got over, this divorce made me get over it.
So it settled that identity issue.
Yep.
Now, for the young guys listening who are single or maybe dating, and maybe even for the married guys who are starting to sweat their marriage, looking back and Sam, you can chime in on this too.
And Naggy, any of the warning signs that you ignored, Rusty, you mentioned your friends whispering in your ear to try to warn you.
Anything else that guys should look out for before they put a ring on it or even after?
One thing I would say is definitely their relationship with their parents.
I mean, like the meme goes, you know, you don't want a woman with daddy issues, you know.
So how they are with their parents.
One thing to look for is how they treat wait staff or people that are serving them in some capacity, you know, because how they treat people, it shows their level of compassion and stuff.
And you don't, I mean, if they treat people that are trying to help them badly, then how are they going to treat you later if she gets upset with you?
Or how's she going to treat the children?
You know, is she going to be compassionate with the children?
Or is she going to just be just a bad person?
And so little things, little things like that matter.
So that's one thing that I always look for, like with anybody I meet.
If I go out, not just a person that, you know, like I would be dating or something, but now if I ever go out, you know, if we were all out eating and one of y'all were treating the waitress poorly, I would be judging the hell out of you and I'd probably say something.
So I noticed that Jews did that a lot in college.
We'd be out, you know, granted, we were dumb college hard drinkers, but Jews were always, my Jewish friends were always snarky or rude in restaurants as if those servers were beneath them.
That always rankled.
So yeah.
Don't get girlfriends and wives that act like Jews at restaurants.
Well, if they act like a Jew, they're probably a Jew.
Yes.
If Smasher and I ever get divorced at roughly the same time, we are moving in together and it's going to be like perfect strangers.
We're going to stream every night and hopefully see our kids a lot.
I joke a little bit.
Obviously, I don't think any married man has not thought about, oh, what would happen?
I think it's sort of your obligation to at least give it some thought, not just assume it's impossible.
It'll never happen.
Now, Mr. Producer has the perfect marriage.
He has nothing to worry about there.
And I'm actually being sincere.
He's like, he's got it all locked down.
No problems in the Mr. Producer house.
But I always assumed, I was like, well, we're both intelligent, rational adults.
If it ever came to that dark day, we would work it out soberly, rationally, and do what's best for the kids.
But and I still think that's the case.
But so many guys, one of the origins for doing the show was in the fatherland days, a divorce lawyer came on and just told horror stories about how badly the men get treated through the whole ordeal, even if they are saints, perfect fathers, perfect husbands.
Tie goes to the woman in almost every case.
So while I can't give guys any like exact advice about get marriage insurance, get prenups, et cetera, because that's sort of an individual thing.
You should give it some thought.
But Sam, we haven't grilled you or drilled down too much any.
You've talked about your ex-wife or your previous marriage a little bit, and it sounds like she got a little bit wild or off the rails herself.
Anything you want to illuminate about from that experience?
Yeah, uh.
First of all, i'd like to say and I think I speak for everybody here, we hate divorce.
We hate it yeah, and in a white nationalist society this is going to be treated very severely.
Part of the problem is the weird agency that is granted to women.
That shouldn't be.
We hate it.
And I don't want to say that maybe in certain few cases it's necessary, but it's not something that should be.
Yeah, I mean, no fault divorce has been an absolute disaster.
Yeah.
We hate it.
Now, the other thing I will say is because everyone we're talking to here has been through very sad experience, but then has gone on to a happy life.
So at the same time, you know, I remember reading maybe it was C.S. Lewis or something.
Like when you undergo loss, right?
So let's say you are a fighter pilot and then you get injured and you can't be a fighter pilot, but you learn to love gardening, you know?
So you'd say, well, if I wasn't able to be a fighter pilot anymore, then I would never got to the gardening, which is the thing I really love.
So we have undergone loss, but we love where we have got to, if that makes sense.
Always darkest before the dawn.
And yeah, that's right.
Down in a hole, you're going to dig yourself out.
That's right.
So it's not that we wish that we didn't get divorced.
I guess there's something more fundamental there that should have been right or better.
But the path our lives lead, it's teaching us something and it's leading us to somewhere.
And so we're finding that way too.
So we're glad that we are not in that other situation.
And we're glad that we are with our wives that we have now.
Absolutely.
Go ahead, Sam.
Sorry.
That's all right.
Go ahead and say your question.
I was going to say, did any of you guys have to pay alimony?
And how did that work?
No, because I've always been a broke ass and arrogant and I don't have any money anyways.
Come and take it.
Empty hands.
No.
And my ex-father-in-law wouldn't have allowed that.
He wouldn't have suffered it.
He thought he treated me honestly and probably still thinks very highly of me to this day.
I think at one time he said you're the son I never had.
But yeah, so I still think fondly of him too.
But he, I mean, that was a blessing in my case too.
Similarly with grad waiting to happen.
Similarly, my ex-father-in-law, we have a good relationship to this day and everything like that.
So I would only add this to my lessons learned.
And this is, I've mentioned this on the show before.
It's difficult to say.
And I want to say it in a nuanced way.
Women, when they get between this age of 35 and 40, there's something going on there, you know, and they can turn.
They can turn in a heartbeat.
And you have to be sensitive to that.
So you got to be sensitive to what they're going through and take note of their feelings and things like that.
But women in that age range, they're going through a hormonal change and they can grasp at straws trying to recapture a feeling of younger days or maybe they sense they're losing their vitality or something like that.
But that's where if divorce.
The danger years.
Yeah, the danger years.
If divorce was forbidden or if society was different, then that wouldn't be such a danger zone.
That'd just be something you have to go through.
But that's where you got to be a little bit sensitive to it.
And I have a good friend right now who's going through a sad, sad situation, you know, and it's heartbreak.
It's wrenching heartbreak to go through it.
And I don't know that there's anything to be done about it.
But the thing is, don't give up.
If you're going through it now, I know we have a couple listener male here and there talking about it.
Don't give up.
Don't give up.
There's light at the end of the tunnel.
And if you do what's right, God will be right there with you.
Fight for your marriages.
And if that's an unwinnable battle, yeah, then move on to fight another to create a better thing.
Smasher, do you have any ideas for what husbands should do with their wives between the ages of 35 and 40?
Storage or other treatment?
Well, you know, 35 is the point at which the return policy opens up.
So you have to do what's called a return exchange.
Oh, very diplomatic of you.
I was throwing you a real nasty softball there.
Well, I'll add this: that in the final days of that first marriage, thinking back on it was surreal because I remember going out for our anniversary and I guess I can't say the ages and everything involved, but I remember the wait staff saying, like, oh, you two, you're so in love.
Look at you.
You look so young and this and that.
And which we'd been married, you know, 12 years at that time.
But and even at, you know, people, just things around that time, like, oh, she said I was so good and this way and that way.
And then just on a dime, all of a sudden, it was like over, you know?
So I don't want to scare people or anything like that, you know.
And I hope that my experience means that nobody else that's listening to this right now ever has to have that experience.
I'm taking it on myself, but you just have to be confident and go forward and have faith.
Mr. Producer says to impregnate your wife between the ages of 35 and 40 early and often.
A little ad-lib there.
A little bit of on-the-fly research because Mr. Producer is not holding up his end of the bargain.
As usual, the American Association of Matrimonial Lawyers provides a guideline which takes 30% of the payer's gross annual income, presumably the man, minus 20% of the payees, the wives, gross annual income.
So one-third more or less of your income, my dudes, less 20% of what she's bringing in herself, which in many cases is probably zero.
So that's a guideline.
I'm sure it varies depending on who's lawyered up best.
Two quick anecdotes or remembrances I have from my earlier pre-WN days reading Gavin McGinnis thinking that he was the coolest, edgiest writer of all time.
But he's not a dummy and he does have some life wisdom.
And he was a cool guy in his own right.
He said about marriages, he said, guys and gals, take a step back.
You can have a bad day.
You can have a bad week, a month.
You can even have a bad year and tough it out for yourselves and for the kids.
And God knows in a marriage, there are times where the husband hates the wife, the wife hates the husband.
And if you don't act like a total a-hole or do any of the three A's, abuse, addiction, or adultery, in many cases, you can work it out.
But those are the three killers.
And back to the warning signs for young guys or married guys.
Obviously, physical abuse, addiction, and cheating.
Yeah.
Zero tolerance on adultery, obviously.
One of my things about divorce, and like I really hate no-fault divorce.
Like it, it has devastated like the family.
And, you know, the whole point, the reason that we subsidize single mothers and have no-fault divorce is to break families up.
So step one is get rid of no-fault divorce.
But step two, well, I mean, this should, I guess, theoretically be step one, but getting rid of no-fault divorce is probably easier than this is like teach people how to manage their relationship.
You know, I don't buy a new house every time I need to change light bulbs or smoke detectors.
Why am I going to get a divorce just because of a disagreement?
I don't get a new car every time it needs tires, right?
Like, well, we have to work on things and we have to fix things.
And I understand that like sometimes that just can't be done.
Well, a lot of times what people say is they fall out of love, but you know what?
You fall in and out of love a number of times, you know, that that cannot be the arbiters is your feelings.
Sure.
Blink 182 said, stay together for the kids.
Go ahead, Nikki.
Well, I was going to say, like, if you can, if you can save it, try to save it.
But if it's, if it's, if you can't, Rusty was talking about there's a lot of emotion involved, a lot of hurt, a lot of anger.
The biggest advice I can give, somebody else told me this because I would just get so angry at the crazy stuff she was doing.
And they told me, they said, you know, she's doing this on purpose, right?
She knows that you're going to get angry when she does this.
And I was like, yeah, you're probably right.
And he says, well, if she knows that you're going to get angry and then you get angry, then she's done something to manipulate you to control you.
I was like, I thought about it.
I was like, you know what?
You're right.
That's literally what she's doing is like, we're not even together.
We're not even in the same house, but she's still controlling how I feel, how I act, the things that I'm doing.
And so once that person told me that, I didn't get angry at her anymore.
I still had a dislike for her.
And I still had, there was other emotions.
You never get rid of all the emotions and stuff.
But when she pulled that stuff, I was just indifferent.
I wasn't angry anymore because I knew that if I got angry, I was giving her the reaction that she wanted.
And it was a reaction she could use.
And I'm surprised nobody said this yet before.
When you get a divorce, you delete Facebook at the gym, all that other stuff.
Do that.
And also cut off contact with her.
Don't have unnecessary contact.
If you have kids, communicate about the kids.
If you're in a single party record state, record your conversations with her, document everything.
Don't meet her privately.
Meet her at a public place, including to exchange the kids and stuff like that.
You've got to protect yourself because these women know lawyers literally tell women to file for restraining orders and stuff now, protective orders.
That's just a part of divorce.
And you need to protect yourself.
But part of protecting yourself is to not let your emotions get to you and act in a way that she can use against you.
If anything, you want it to be the other way around.
That's right.
Yeah.
Remember the quote, hell hath no fury, like a scorned woman.
And I'm not sure.
I'm thinking off the cuff here a little bit.
I want to generalize and say when men screw up in a marriage, obviously there's exceptions to this.
They're abusive husbands.
They're alcoholic husbands.
So I want to say like men are more of like the doofuses who go along thinking everything's fine and may screw up here or there.
But if a woman gets unhappy in her marriage, she is the one who is capable of count of Monte Cristo-esque conspiracies to really screw you and your life if she decides on that path.
So, yeah.
And I think a lot of men go to court thinking that justice is actually a thing.
And it's not.
I mean, we know this as white nationalists, you know, but and normies, they think that the right thing is going to happen.
They go there, they say what happened, and things will be fair.
Most normies don't know how bad things are messed or are designed against them.
They have no idea.
But you do.
Everyone here listening does.
We know, especially as white nationalists, that the court system absolutely hates us.
The system as a whole hates us.
Oh, yeah.
So you have to prepare the same way that you would do things to not get doxxed.
When it comes to a divorce, there's certain things you need to do.
And just be ready.
Yeah.
No luxury for rose-tinted glasses when it comes to that.
Excellent point.
Yeah.
They rake over leftists soy bugmen in divorce court.
Imagine what they do with people like us.
Rusty, before we move on to a much sunnier topic, anything else after listening to that conversation you think we missed or that you think the listeners need to consider, whether they're single, married, or divorced?
One lesson I learned is that if I do see signs in relationships of my close family who are men or my metaphorical brothers, my friends, if I see behavior in their partner, their woman, their female partner before they're married, or even if they're married, if it's appropriate, I will say something.
I know that's taking a risk potentially to our friendship, but I would say that friendship's not worth a hill of beans if you can't confide in that man honestly from a position of good faith, trying to potentially warn him.
You don't have to be too critical.
You don't have to be emotional.
You pull the man aside and tell him, matter of factly, what you've been seeing.
Now, don't do it one flippant comment that a woman makes.
Every woman makes flippant comments.
But I think you all, I think everyone knows what I mean by a pattern of behavior that a man who's in love may be blind to, as I was.
My biological brother said, oh, there were things I saw and I was just afraid you would hate me.
And, you know, of course, I wasn't mad at him.
I was, you know, said to my brother, my God, why would, you know, why would you not tell me that?
Right.
And, you know, perhaps it speaks, I think I also learned if my personality is scaring away my family from confiding in me.
That was other things I had, of course, correct on.
But personally, if I see signs similar to those that my wife displayed, up to and including patterns of potential infidelity that I should have been, well, confirmed infidelity subsequently, but an adultery that I women are conniving.
And if you're in love, you can overlook those things.
And if there are signs, I will speak up.
Smell your wives.
Yeah.
Smell your wives' underwear when they get back from a business trip.
Sorry.
Rusty's right.
That's good advice right there.
Absolutely.
Good observation.
Yeah, I'm intentionally trying to insert.
Rusty gives me a little bit of a jokingly hard time for cracking jokes on serious topics sometimes.
But in all seriousness, yeah, it's a deadly serious topic in some cases that we still got to keep our mirth about us.
All right, pivoting from ex-wives and divorce to a much sunnier topic, the bright, beautiful rainbow of the canine kingdom.
Rusty and Niggy are actually co-founders of the Pit Bull Rescue Association of America.
Rusty and Niggy, please share with the audience pit bulls.
Why are they great and why should every family adopt at least two?
Well, didn't you know they used to be nanny dogs?
I mean, yeah, they're great with children.
You just lock your kids in a room.
You don't even have to, you just throw, you slide food under the door for them.
You don't even have to look at them.
All right, Niggy, real quick, show me, show me on your body, where did the pit bull bite you first?
I've actually been bit by a pit bull, but it wasn't too bad.
But yeah, just the calf.
So I've broken apart pit bull fights.
You can try to try to see that on camera.
My break apart to me, two dead pit bulls.
Well, I've tried to break apart pit bull fights before, and you're like, you can try to beat them unconscious with like a two by four.
Like they will not stop.
They will not stop.
And I can tell you that they will non-stop.
In all seriousness, yeah, you sincerely hate them as Satan's four-legged spawn.
Why?
And like condense all of your decades of pit bull visceral hatred into one minute here.
Well, the best way of putting it is everybody that has a pit bull is probably a garbage person.
Like blacks like them, leftist feminist women that want to signal.
Oh, they're, you know, what else?
Meth heads?
Just people, anybody that owns a pit bull, you would not want as a neighbor.
That's basically all there is to it.
Like if you got, like, the pit question is the ultimate question.
If, if you got rid of pit bulls and people that support pit bulls, you would get rid of like 99% of all of humanity's problems.
I can see the hate emails now because we know our guys who have pit bulls and still swear.
I will tell you this.
Everybody's never cooked on this question.
I like if that's that is like that.
If you own a pit bull, if you own a pit bull, your daughter will grow up to date black men.
This is scientifically proven.
Yeah, it's like she's going to want a guy that's like her father that has pit bulls, but she's not going to want a meth head, hopefully.
And so she's probably going to go for a black guy, you know, because that's who all has the pit bulls.
It's only black guys and leftist women.
So there's very few white guys with pit bulls.
Like a proper white guy would have like a golden retriever or a German shepherd, you know?
It's like they say they say Hitler had a pit bull in World War I, but later in life, all he has is German Shepherds.
You never see pictures of Hitler with a pit bull.
I've never heard people say that Hitler had a pit bull in the World War.
Apparently their unit had one.
That's the thing that people say.
that's just that's just people trying to yeah they're just doing revisionism to make Hitler look bad But in all seriousness, I mean, this is a breed of monster that's trained to kill.
And even with a pattern of years of quote-unquote non-violence on the part of the pit bull, when its instincts, when its genetics kick in, it will rip off the face of a child, another dog, or if it's trained to fight, it will attempt to attack even a grown adult male, as has happened to me twice in the past year.
I mean, I'm sure as Rusty 2, Pit Bull Zero, but these are serious situations.
If Niggy's the Reinhard Heydrich of Pit Bull, then you, Rusty, are the Adolph Eichmann of the PQ.
Yeah, sorry, I wanted to get that line in.
Rusty, yeah, lay it on us your recent interview with a Pit Bull.
Well, there's two, and the latter one I don't think Niggy's heard of yet.
The first one is more.
I mean, this is a fighting dog, I'm convinced.
A big, big buck nog pit bull that is yoked with no neck.
And I mean, his traps look like, you know, if his little pit legs could grab a bar, he would be shrugging 600 pounds.
So, but I don't know this because I'm running down the street to across the street from this pit bull in its quote unquote yard with its quote unquote owners breaks off its chain, literally, not using the phrase.
And I'm aware in my peripheral sense, it's not even my vision, but I have this perception of something coming up behind me.
And fortunately, I was like, sure.
Listen, it was the summer and I was sweating a lot.
And I think it slipped off my sweat and its tooth just grazed my knee.
And I knew immediately.
And this was not the Saxons' hate in this case began far before this encounter.
So I knew immediately and I squared up to fight this thing.
And he leapt up at me immediately.
I mean, this is probably, it felt like 30 seconds.
It was probably two seconds at most.
And I fortunately was able to get a complete full power right cross and met his jump at me, connected, flipped the flipped this male fighting dog into the street head over.
And I baited pit bull before.
You can do it.
But this dog, this is why I think it's a fighting dog, came right back at me.
And it's Groid owner by this point.
It's quote unquote owner, you know, and he's a, he's a, he's a bug dog.
So, but take this lesson.
The Negro, he understands crazy white man, and it's almost, it's like primal.
It's instinctual.
I've never seen a black man bait us so hard as when he watched me beat the hell out of his fighting dog in the street.
And so he literally was saying, yo, you want me to come over your house and do things for you?
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
And I, I, I'm it's hard to come down from a fight with the pit bull.
So I'm still trying to antagonize the pit bull and trying to get it to back so I could finish the job.
Um, but uh, these, these are just dangerous creatures.
This, and he, I mean, and this guy, you know, in this groid's defense, he quit, he did have it chained in his yard, but this is a pit bull you're talking about.
They're unpredictable and violent.
And this pit bull, if I just been, you know, a regular white dude running, I'd have part of my leg missing at a minimum.
That's right.
Or worse.
And I'm a male and pit bull supposedly don't attack males.
That's another thing you hear.
That's false.
The second time it happened was a neighbor in a different place, again, a leftist woman.
And this time it attacked my little dog with my baby on me.
Now, this pit bull was not as serious, fortunately.
And I have a scrappy little dog.
But when it drew blood from my little dog's leg, I quit.
I kind of lost myself there, you know, for a minute.
With the baby on your back.
With the baby on my chest, actually.
So I had to reach across the baby to pump.
But all I know is when I finally came to, there was blood everywhere and pit bull teeth in the ground.
And it was the pit bull's blood who apparently was choking on its own teeth.
And I have no remorse or regrets, except for unfortunately, that pit bull is still amongst the living.
This is why I always carry, always, I don't care if I'm walking around the neighborhood that, you know, I live in and it's relatively safe.
And I actually don't think there are any black people within like 10 or 15 miles.
So the really, really low chance the repercussions of shooting a pit bull, though, and broad daylight are worse.
Plus, it would take the joy of bludgeoning a pit bull to death from you.
So, yes, I too share my hatred for the pit bull is indescribable.
Rusty, you should have asked that the first owner who was offering to do favors for you whether he was into any antebellum agricultural role play in your backyard.
I know my own law.
One thing I'll add: Rusty said that they're like trained killers.
You don't even have to train them because they give them, yeah, exactly.
Like, you can own a beagle and not train it to hunt and chase after stuff, right?
Chase rabbits, but the beagle is still going to love to run.
You know, you can get a pointer, and the pointer will still point, even if you're not trained to hunt, you know.
You know, all these dogs, you know, they still have the natural instinct that's been bred into them.
You know, you don't have to train them to do that.
You know, they'll be more efficient if you train them, but just these, you know, these loving household pets attack people all the time.
Like, like you see in these chats, I post these stories.
They happen all the time.
Rusty has a whole external hard drive full of pitbull atrocities.
Yeah.
And for anybody that doesn't believe me, do you remember the ice, what was it, the ice bucket challenge or something?
Just look up Ice Bucket Challenge Pit Bull.
There's a grandma, a white grandma with her family, and she does the ice bucket thing.
And it's happy little pit bull, you know, with their smile and they wag, it's wagging its tail.
It's not aggressive at all.
It doesn't have its hair standing up.
Just jumps up, grabs grandma by the face, and pulls her to the ground.
Yeah.
You know, just an old white woman, you know, obviously not training this pit bull to fight, obviously not abusing the dog, you know.
And the dog wasn't, you know, showing any kind of signs of aggression.
Like I said, it was just wagging its tail and pulled her down like a ragdoll.
That's what they do.
I trust wolf hybrid dogs more than I trust pit bulls.
Oh, easily.
Yeah.
I'd rather be around a full-bred wolf in the wild than a pit bull.
Yeah.
Well, pit bulls kill more people every year in America than all other types of dogs combined.
Yep.
So we're joking, but it's again another deadly serious topic.
Absolutely.
And it's not just if you have not one of your own, but if like your neighbors have one, you know, I highly suggest like possibly doing something about it because there's so many stories.
Like there was this one, a woman complaining to your HOA.
Yes, complaining.
There was this woman that was putting her kids in a car seat in the back of a minivan.
Neighbor's pit bull jumps over its fenced yard.
So even if it's fenced, it's not safe.
Jumped over the fence yard and attacked these two kids in their car seats.
These aren't isolated incidents.
I could describe some stuff that is just not appropriate for this show.
And I'm literally looking at Nikki's avatar, and it is somebody with a pit bull in the gas chamber.
And oddly, is that a Jew pressing the gas button?
Or I don't need to know the character.
Someone made it's Ganondorf from Legend of Zelda, and somebody made the Jew meme.
It's like three memes combined into one.
It's got the pit bull and the cake stakes.
All right.
We're at an hour and 10 minutes, gents.
We got to move on to the second half before Mr. Producer quits.
And Smasher has to get his beauty sleep.
And we are, Rusty touched on it there.
We're going to touch a little bit on the whitest of white topics for white fathers and all of whitopia, and that is lawn care in the second half.
But don't go away, dear listener.
Don't run.
Don't turn off your dial.
We are not going to make it spurgy or boring.
We're going to make it fun.
And we got a lot of other content to cover, too.
So let us go to the break.
The only bigger Mr. Bond fan than me is our good friend Rusty.
He does not have a particularly large library of safe for family rides in the minivan works, but he does have one.
It's called Where'd You Go?
And it's not him longing for his ex-wife, it's him longing for someone a lot more special and dearly needed in this world.
And Mr. Bond was arrested within the past month in Austria for the unforgivable crime of rapping while white about being pro-white and also other things.
And it's an outright shame.
And I know he's somewhat of a difficult character, but I hope everybody supports Mr. Bond in whatever way they can.
Truly great talent, wonderful content, including Dear Donald, right after the serious strikes in 2017, nailing it.
People thought he overreacted.
Nope, he was right about it right there.
So, Mr. Producer, please pop on Where'd You Go by Mr. Bond?
Watch this video after you listen to this fam.
We'll be right back.
We love you.
Don't go anywhere.
Look around, our country's gone to shit.
Some days I wanna quit or just be a normie for a bit.
And it breaks my heart how you were once so strong.
But now it feels like your spirit's entirely gone.
And I find myself watching old clips from the golden years on YouTube trying to hold back tears.
A man fueled by a burning love for his folk.
Could see the people's eyes beaming with adoration and hope.
And I want you to know that I will never give up.
Although I'm stuck here waiting, outnumbered by strangers.
Hoping that among the ruins you'll reappear.
Me and the rest who are still loyal here.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so.
Seems like it's been forever that you can go.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so.
Seems like it's been forever.
Come back home.
You know the place where we used to live.
Used to hike with grandma and the kids.
Used to see the whole village at the football field on every Sunday.
Or dance at the main tree from old to young age.
Today we're atomized, alienated.
And all sense of community and trust has faded.
Met with hate and ridicule when I try galvanizing them.
And it hurts cause I care so much I would die for them.
But I want you to know I will never give up.
Although I'm stuck here waiting, outnumbered by strangers.
Hoping that among the ruins you'll reappear.
Me and the rest who are still loyal here.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so.
Cause I'm like it's been forever that you can go where'd you go.
I want you to know I will never give up although I'm stuck here waiting, outnumbered by strangers.
Torn to erase every trace we existed.
Which they made us believe we deserve.
So don't resist it.
But long as I live, I will feed the sparks that might rekindle the fire in my people's heart.
And maybe one day from the ruins you'll reappear and join the rest of us here saying.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so.
Cause I'm like it's been forever that you can go.
Welcome back to Full House episode 81.
Hope you didn't mind the dark and serious content there in the first half.
We are one birth panelist lighter.
The second half, Potato Smasher has jumped overboard to our great delight.
Just kidding.
We're going to miss him.
Not sure how we're going to close out the show, but we'll make due.
And before we get back to our two special guests, and in all seriousness, an important topic for homeowners and white men around the world, I wanted to flag that the delightful email that we got from a young married listener the other day.
I boosted it on Telegram.
Yeah, the Twitter account is kill.
Thankfully, I felt like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Predator saying, kill me now, after like a couple months on Twitter.
It was just tedious.
It was a time suck.
It does make me sad losing contact with so many good people on Twitter and also the ability to have the show reach more people.
But it just ain't what it was.
So good riddance.
We are not going back probably ever, but never.
So check us out on Telegram as the easiest way for show updates as well as expert shit posting from an OG in that school of work.
Regardless, the delightful email, I teased it on Telegram that we got it, and it is up on the site.
I put it up right before the show, titled It Never Despair.
Just a really nice heartwarming story from a young woman who didn't want kids, was a pretty hardcore leftist, tattoos and all the rest of it.
And listening to Full House, assuming she was honest, we've had a couple back and forths, and I have no reason to believe she's not.
She said listening to Full House helped change her outlook in addition to reality, of course.
And she is looking forward to having a big brood of Irish babes with her lovely husband.
So Godspeed to you, author.
I also wanted to flag that the inbox has been overflowing and we've gotten so many heartwarming as well as heart-wrenching stories that I've been dragging my feet on responding because they deserve a more thoughtful response rather than thank you so much for sharing this, etc.
So we've gotten your mails, guys.
We've gotten mails from people who tried to go through adoption and found it to be a nightmare.
We're going to have that guy on the show in the coming weeks.
We got an email from a really heartbreaking one from a father who lost his daughter, not to life, but lost contact with her due to her going down the societal drain of race mixing and infidelity and children out of wedlock.
And we got another guy who had a divorce, lost contact with two kids, and then essentially started over from fresh with a new, lovely, beautiful wife, new family, and many others too.
So give me a couple days, guys.
We'll get back to you.
And didn't want to read all of those details on the show, one for time and two, to make sure what was permissible to share with the audience.
Also, wanted to give a little bit of a teaser here that the Australian bad boy himself, Thomas Soule, never heard of him up until a couple months ago when his fairly handsome, bulky visage started showing up on Telegram everywhere.
This is the National Socialist, unapologetic pro-white guy who just got arrested for defending his cameraman from a black security guard who was apparently giving him a hard time.
He said he's going to come on Full House.
A little bit busy after his little dust up, but put that one in your memory bank for a show to come soon.
Finally, we're going to close out this housekeeping.
Somebody said that the other day there was an obscure podcast that paid us a nice compliment.
I had never heard of these guys, but you figure you take compliments wherever you can get them.
And it was arguably worth playing an excerpt of it here if Mr. Producer has his stuff together.
Go ahead.
You can share this one with the audience, buddy.
If you're a dad, if you're a white dad and you don't understand this, even if you mean very well, you aren't going to be able to shield your kids in the right way.
And that's why I think, you know, this is very important, the work that we're doing.
Also, everybody should recommend Full House to parents because they will tell you this too: that this is the most, your children will not survive this fucking terrible society if you don't understand what it's really about and actually develop a real mechanism for shielding them from it.
Very true.
Very true.
Wise guy there.
Yeah.
Apparently, that show is called, I'm looking here at TDS, and you can find it at the rightstuff.biz, whatever that is, dot biz.
So, you know, wherever podcasts are found, I guess, check that out.
TDS and the rightstuff.biz.
Anyway, thank you.
That was a very nice compliment from Mike Enoch.
Nice.
Sounds like a smart guy.
One more.
Thank you, Mike.
One more quick note.
We talk so much about where our guys, how and where they can find their future brides.
And we had a woman email in and say, Hey, guys, well, I'm looking to meet a guy who is like-minded.
Where the hell am I supposed to find you guys?
Now, she did say that her name was Honey Potter, kind of an odd name, but pay no attention to that.
No, no, she seemed sincere.
And yeah, we gave it a go trying to set her up with one guy in particular who may be roughly in her geographical area of operations.
So, this is a little trial balloon of Full House Love Connection, perhaps a new segment.
But in all seriousness, we are happy to try to do that with all due caution and risk.
Of course, I told her, I was like, it's tough.
You know, a lot of guys have gotten burned by single women in these things in this thing.
And there's a little bit of blame to go around on the XY chromosome set as well.
So I hope that works out.
And if you are sincere and interested, feel free to drop us a line.
We'll see what we can do.
No promises.
All right.
With that, it's only been one week, but we're all backed up.
This is great.
We got too much stuff.
New white life, congratulations to Ghost of Column Rock.
Guessing that's Gaelic.
Smasher's not here to translate it for us, but congratulations, Ghost.
We turned on comments on the Telegram channel, and the overwhelming majority of them have been based.
There was one crypto Jew murking around in there trying to say that Israel was our greatest ally the other day.
I was like, get out of here.
We see through your games.
This is not 2003 again with the Iraq war.
Also, Turbo let us know that he's got his first on away.
Well, we knew that, but he found out it's going to be a boy.
So, Turbo has the excitement and pride of knowing his first lad is going to come out in the next few months, I guess, probably due in the summer.
So, congratulations, Mr. and Mrs. Turbo.
With that, finally, yes, done with the housekeeping, but that was fun too, because it's all great stuff.
Nikki and Rusty are upstanding white men on their own, but they also take an extraordinary pride in their lawns with somewhat a different geographic approach, a chemical approach, etc.
And I do say that this is serious because there's nothing that is worse than when you drive by a white person's house and it's nothing but dirt and weeds and God forbid, trash and parked cars like some Mexican barrio in the hood.
So, I'm going to turn it over to you guys.
And they have been instructed, dear audience, to keep it brisk and practical.
And we will pepper them with questions from the perspective of a lay person who just thinks, you know, there is grass and it grows and maybe spray a little weed killer here and there.
So have at it, guys, enlighten our audience on the wonders of grass.
The first thing to remember is that lawns are like societies.
So the more homogenous the turf grass, the more robust it will be, the more resilient and resistant to invasion it will be, and the more it will care for itself.
That being said, it takes a lot of care.
It's not overwhelming, and every single white man should have the agency to do it on his own because you don't need to hire companies.
It's not that complicated once you get the basics down, and you can have a beautiful manicured appearing lawn if you mow it twice a week, basically.
You will have to do some applications, but if you water it when appropriate and you mow it twice a week, the homogenous turf grass will take care of things on its own.
If you neglect it and you allow drought or too much rain or what have you, and you don't feed it at the appropriate time, like a society that hasn't been cared for or tended to, it will begin to fall apart and will be susceptible to invasion.
Exactly.
Very much like a society.
The mowing is absolutely the most important part.
Like lots of people use chemicals and fertilizers and stuff, but mowing is absolutely the most important part because the weeds grow and then they seed and it just gets out of hand.
You know, it's just like the birth rate of the Mexicans.
You've got to keep this in check.
And mowing is what does that.
You know, once or twice a week, twice a week's better, but at least once a week.
You don't want to be the person that, you know, let's let's because the weeds grow fast and they're going to shoot up and then they're going to start seeding and then you've just got a mess.
There'll be some differences in mow height where you are in the country for cool and warm season grass.
Where Nikki's at and has a more warm season turf, he might be able to mow a little bit lower preferentially.
Where I'm at and where a lot of folks might be where there's cool season grass, and I'll explain what those are in a second.
You want to mow 3.5, 4 inches.
And that's why you really, especially during peak growth times and for cool season turfs, which are turf-type tall fescue, Kentucky bluegrass and ryegrass, they all kind of look the same.
Most people in this country who live even in the transition zone, but most people in the cool season areas or transition zone areas are going to have predominantly a turf-type tall fescue or Kentucky bluegrass.
Some mix thereof.
You want to mow that in the spring and in the fall, particularly when it's growing fast at 3.5, 4 inches twice a week.
Okay, let me drill.
Yeah, go ahead, Rusty.
Then I want to.
That is the single biggest important thing.
And then when it gets really hot in the summer, watering it every other day, three days a week, about a half inch, and put a tuna can out, whatever sprinklers you use, and see if you fill that tuna can.
And that's enough for that day.
When it's really hot, it's going to get hot everywhere in the country.
And cool season turfs will go dormant if you don't water them in the summer.
But you can keep your turf-type tall fescue.
Maybe you won't keep it.
If you have turf-type tall fescue in Texas, you won't keep it non-dormant because it'll be 100 degrees for weeks on end.
But if you live in Nebraska or you live in Indiana, you can keep that grass green throughout the summer and into the fall with just mowing it and watering it regularly.
And we'll get into a couple more details, but coach, ask your question.
Sure.
Now, I am an Olympic gold medalist when it comes to mowing the lawn.
I do it early often.
I'm never happier than when I'm mowing the lawn, aside from maybe my wedding day and the birth of my three children.
I really do love it.
But I don't give too much thought to the science of it.
Now, when you say 3.5 to 1, I've used push mowers and a rider mower.
There's usually four or five, I can't recall exactly settings, manual settings to adjust the height.
Are they roughly equivalent to the inch height?
So, you know, the highest setting, the farthest setting, if there's five, is that five inches and the lowest is one, the shortest one when the deck is lowest to the grass.
So it's obviously going to depend on the model of mower you have.
And I wasn't going to get into much whether, you know, do you use a push mower?
Do you use a riding mower?
If you have less than an acre, you should use a push mower, if for nothing else, in the enjoyment of being a white man out there mowing your lawn.
And you should recycle the clippings with the exception of maybe two mows a year, which can occur, you know, in the fall when you might be dethatching.
And Nikki might talk that he has to dethatch soyzia more than you would cool season turf.
That may be the only time you bag the clippings.
But you want to recycle to recycle clippings, that is not just, oh, I don't bag them.
I let them ball up underneath the mower.
No, you don't water.
Yeah, this, speaking from experience.
The only man who has ever mowed my lawn, I still have a chip on my shoulder.
The only man who ever used your push mower properly.
Oh, yeah.
Showed you the recycler function.
Blew my mind.
So the recycling.
Rusty came over.
He's like, yeah, you got some okay fescue there, Coach.
I was like, what the F is fescue, nerd?
Wait, hold on.
What was I going to say there real quick?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So I always, my old man, just mulch because, you know, not shooting it out the side, not bagging it, but sending the grass clippings straight back down into the ground, which I know causes some thatching issue where it gets all clumped up.
But Rusty said, no, you should be side ejecting, whatever the hell the term is.
You should be recycling.
And I don't like calling it mulching.
If you're not recycling the clippings, you're just messing up your blade, really.
But when you say recycling, go ahead.
Recycling is, you need to, I mean, there's blade maintenance.
You don't really have to do that as much.
I wouldn't talk about blade maintenance, but recycling actually pushes out the clippings at an appropriate height and distributes them to the yard rather than its balled up, wet clippings that it drives into the ground and ruins your mowing capacity, actually.
It actually interferes with the machine.
Gotcha.
Go ahead, Nikki.
Well, I was going to say not only that, but the grass clippings have, because a lot of, like we were saying, a lot of people rake them up or bag them up or whatever, do not do that because the grass clippings have nitrogen in them.
That nitrogen comes from the soil.
You're cutting them off.
And if you bag it, you're just taking nitrogen out of your grass that you're going to have to replace yourself.
Right.
It's auto-fertilization to recycle your clippings.
I've done the mulching thing where you have the special blade that's supposed to mulch it up and stuff.
But this year, I'm actually going to be kicking it out the side because I like how it cuts the grass a bit better.
The mulcher, I think, destroys the blade of the grass, which can cause damage to your lawn.
A little less safe with the kids running around, be noted.
The side eject can shoot golf balls and other crap out toward junior or whoever.
I mean, not if you're maintaining your lawn.
I grew up, you know, I'm older than most of y'all, except for Sam, I guess, but there was a show called Rescue 911, I guess, in the early 90s, and I saw it, and I was just absolutely traumatized by one of the episodes where like a kid got ran over by a riding mower.
And so, like, my kids, like when they're small, I don't even let them outside.
I don't even let them on the porch to watch when I mow.
That's a good point.
When I was in sixth grade, a real quick story, not to derail you guys, I was like, yeah, keep it on track, and now I'm derailing you.
Sixth grade, sitting in class, janitor's out there on the rider mower in the playground, and all of a sudden, a golf ball shoots through the glass window of the classroom and misses my pal Kenny by about five inches and hints like some stuffed animal on the far side.
We thought that was the greatest drama of all time in our middle school.
But yeah, seriously, be careful with rider mowers.
Rider mowers are great.
If you think push mowers, joy, oh man, having a cold one on a summer day on a rider mower, king of the world.
All right.
And certainly if you're mowing over an acre, you know, push, continuing to use a push mower at that point becomes a bit superfluous.
But so the first thing, you know, it is totally okay to be wondering right now, what type of grass do I have?
So just Google or, you know, whatever search engine of your choice.
Cool, warm, transitional grass.
If all you remember is cool season grass or warm season grass, it's fine.
Put it in and then click the images portion and you'll see a very simple map of the United States color coded for cool season, transition zone, and warm season.
Again, if you're in the cool season, which is Northern California, parts of Nevada, most of Utah, Colorado, all the way across, it goes up a little bit, covers Illinois, Indiana, et cetera, Pennsylvania, and then Maryland's kind of splitting.
And then over, you know, New Jersey north is all cool season.
That is mostly turf-type tall fescue and Kentucky bluegrass with ryegrass blended in for quick growth.
So if all you remember is fescue and bluegrass, you'll be fine because most things that look good and you can buy in a store with low weed count are going to be a blend of those things anyway.
And if you're the transition zone, you can technically use something like Zoysia or cool season grass.
It really truly depends on where you are.
If you're the northern end of the transition zone, I recommend a cool season grass.
If you're the southern end, like southern Arkansas or northern Texas, you're probably best served by something like Zoysia.
Warm season would be classic Floridian grass like St. Augustine, Bermuda.
Zoyja is technically a warm season grass, but it can be a very good turf in the transition zone as well.
But if you're really south or it's warm most of the time, Texas and the deep south and Florida, then that's warm season.
And just to clarify, you want when you start to, all right, so springtime in Appalachia, let's say you see the onion grass usually start to sprout first, those tall, technically edible sprouts.
Now, and Niggy, you mentioned the concern about weeds going to seed.
So are you saying that we should get out there as soon as we see things start popping here, even if it's March or early April to get out there and mow?
That was a great transition, Coach.
And sorry to jump over this, Niggy, but it is a bit different for warm seasons.
What I would say is up in Appalachia, there's a couple of tools.
The main thing that matters is the soil temperature.
And when we're coming from winter into spring, the magic number is 55 degrees.
Okay.
And that's going to be a kind of rolling average, right?
So there are a couple of online tools.
There's one called Greencast.
There's an app from Yard Mastery that can you plug in your zip code and it'll tell you your rolling sort of average soil temperature.
You can also get a soil probe and go measure it.
But remember, you know, that's going to be, it's kind of fun.
I have one just to compare like what the tool says.
It is kind of nerdy and spurgy, but you know, you'd be surprised.
But when you start to see growth, it may be too late.
I mean, okay.
You know, you want to pay attention to the soil temperature.
So when you're rising at 50, that's when you're thinking, okay, now it's time to put down my hands, my pre-emergent herbicides.
Or if you're going to do a little bit of seeding in the spring, which I don't necessarily recommend for cool season turfs, it's more of a fall time thing.
But since springtime is when growing happens and flowers are out, that's when people start to think about lawns, even though the best time to think about lawns is actually the fall, at least for cool season.
So the soil temperature, 55 in cool season areas and coming from winter into spring.
And the magic temperature on the other side, August, September, going into the fall, is 70.
Because then the cool season turfs are going to hit another grow spurt in September or October.
And that's when you want to do your overseeding.
And you don't necessarily want to use a pre-emergent unless it's a product that I can talk about called Tenacity.
So if you go to the store and you see weed in feed and you're in a cool season and you buy something with prodiamine or whatever, if you look at the fine print, it will say it will prevent germination of new seeds.
So if you want to put grass down this spring, you need to use a product called Tenacity to prevent crabgrass and weeds if you're in the north or in cool season areas, because that's the only chemical product that I know of.
There's generics and stuff like that that allows for seed germination simultaneously.
Prodiamine is a great pre-emergent to prevent crabgrass, which is the most annoying weed.
It prevents tons of other ones too, and so is tenacity.
But the one that's really obnoxious looking, you know, that's the crabgrass.
Yep.
Prodiamine will work, but you won't get new seed.
So just remember that if you're thinking about laying down pre-emergent.
That's basically what I was going to say.
Around this time where I am, we're reaching the end of the window to be able to use pre-emergent for the for the for the spring.
Mid-March is probably the latest.
You really want to do it.
Ideally, you'd do it late February, but you want to get your pre-emergent out so that if there's any weed seeds, it's not going to grow.
You try to do pre-emergent again in the fall.
But this is something that you would do if you have a weed issue.
I mean, this would get you, hopefully you don't have a weed issue, but if you do, this was something that you would want to do to get it under control.
You were talking about if you see stuff green right now, go out and mow it.
What typically happens is your normal grass right now would be dormant, and what's growing is all weeds, every bit of its weeds.
So you've only got two options, pull them or kill them.
So if you got a bunch of weeds, you need to go spray something that can kill the weeds.
And it's not going to hurt your grass because your grass is still dormant.
All these weed killers, you know, like there's lots of different types for different types of weeds, but the one that a lot of people get, which, you know, it's up to you personally whether you want to use it a lot or not, but a lot of people just get Roundup because it, you know, will kill pretty much anything.
Like, so at this time, before your grass wakes up while it's dormant, you would want to kill any of the weeds because once your grass comes in, if you're trying to kill weeds, you're going to brown your grass.
And like stuff, products like Roundup and other weed killers only work when a plant is actively growing.
Okay.
So, I'm going to put myself real quick to not to cut you off, but to summarize.
So, for Joe, lawn owner right now, with that his grass, most likely, unless he's in the deep south, is dormant.
So, it's safe for him to spray most weed killers, including Roundup, without worrying about bald patches in his grass.
If he does see, he doesn't have to really start mowing yet.
It is possible to seed for new grass in the spring.
It's sub-ideal in most places.
Fall is better.
But, all right, let's say zone six, mid-Atlantic.
Use the zones.
Don't use the USDA zones because it's simpler for grass.
There's only three.
The map is much cleaner.
One could argue whether it should be more complex, but you really only have three areas to remember: the cool and then the transition and then warm season turfs.
And the transition is kind of pick the winter strategy, whatever is better in your local area.
Right.
So, so you can plant or put down new grass seed in cool transition in the spring.
Should work out.
And you said around mid-March or April in general?
You can.
The issue with doing it in the spring is you're going to be competing with all those weed seeds coming up.
Now, that's why I said you can use the Tenacity product.
Okay.
The Tenacity product allows for grass seed germination, certain types of seeds, not warm.
Like I think it doesn't allow for zoisia germination, for instance.
But if you have KBG or you have rye and you have almost no one's going to have a pure ryegrass unless you're super grassberg.
So don't worry about that.
I've seen Rusty's backyard.
He is a grassberg.
He's got the chops.
Miggy, I haven't seen yours.
Mine is still a blend, mostly fescue, and there's some bluegrass and ryegrass.
And there's a reason why, you know, companies make those blends because people have spotty shade and everything.
And there's preferences a little bit.
But most of everyone's lawn is going to be majority turf-tied tall fescue.
And Tenacity will work with that.
Now, here's a warning: any weed product, including Tenacity, you can just hose it on, especially for Tenacity's really kind of started as not a big ag, but you know, like a true green type chemical.
So you buy, you have to dilute it out and everything else.
If you apply more than the instructions say, you will burn your turf.
Yeah.
So you have to apply.
And that goes, that's why I'm really hesitant to really strongly recommend herbicide applications for people who are just starting to bet because if you it, you know, when you start anything, if you make a mistake, it kind of makes you think, oh, I don't know what I'm doing.
And it like sets you back.
But because if you, if you just get, if you give your, if you put starter furt, you buy Scott starter furt right now in cool season areas and you put it down when your grass temps are going above 55 and then you mow and water and you did nothing else, you're going to be pre, you're going to have a decent looking lawn.
Now, I strongly argue for some form of for pre-emergent because most areas crabgrass gets so bad.
But, you know, if you didn't do it and your turf was still mostly there, in other words, like if more than 70% of your lawn appears to be grass, it'll, it'll, it'll bulk itself up.
It won't spread out like Niggy.
Soya will.
Turf type tall fescue won't unless there's some new culture var.
But it will bulk up and it will cover basketball size patches, if you will.
And early spring, chickweed and dandelions, at least from my experience, are usually.
Tenacity will nuke all that.
And those are weeds.
But don't forget, our good friend Nathaniel Scott let us know that both chickweed and dandelions are edible.
Dandelions make a great soup.
Chickweed, you can snack on and sustain yourself.
Cold.
Again, let's use the society analogy.
Do you want Hispanics and African Americans in your neighborhood because they have good reggae and jerk chicken?
No.
You want a homogeneous turf that looks beautiful and it's manicured and that your children can walk on.
You're not worried about what the heck is on their feet.
So you don't want dandelions, you don't want chickweed, and you certainly don't want crabgrass, which is a proverbial pit, you know what.
Yeah.
So tenacity will nuke all of those weeds.
That's why I'm a big fan of it for cool season turfs because you can seed with it.
And is tenacity available at Home Depot and Lowe's, or is that you have to order it?
I ordered it online usually.
You can get it on Amazon.
You can get generic brands from other places.
Now, it's, you know, for if this is your first time ever doing this, I probably wouldn't do it this season.
Now, it doesn't take that long.
If you watch a couple YouTube videos or whatever, you'll have it down by the fall if you get into this.
But because it needs a backpack sprayer at a minimum, and you have to mix it and put a dye with the tenacity to know where you sprayed it.
Again, because if you overdo it, you will burn your turf.
Right.
And that's true for any herbicide.
Remember that.
People debate whether putting too much fertilizer down burns turf or not, but any herbicide applied too much will burn turf.
Yeah, the herbicides will definitely burn turf.
And you were talking about like fertilizer.
If you add too much nitrogen, it'll also burn.
You got to be careful with your nitrogen as well.
Sam has actually transcended this conversation.
He's on a higher plan because his front and backyard both look like Mr. Miyagi's dojo from Karate Kid.
Sam, he's got the buns-eyed trees and everything, the little koi ponds.
I am dying to know, Sam.
Are you, I'm guessing you're just a normal person like me instead of these other two guys and you just an okay yard and a push mower?
Let us know.
Inquiring minds.
After all this, I know that now I have to start paying less attention to black metal and more attention to black lawn.
No.
Well, here, I'll tell you this.
I mean, I live in an urban area, but for an urban area, my property has more grass around it than what you might think.
And up until the previous year, I used a lawn care service, but with the COVID.
Never do that.
Never do that.
Oh, my gosh.
You're off the show, Sam.
Sorry.
Well, let me tell you this, though.
With the COVID last year, we never saw the lawn care people.
They never came here one time.
So, you know, I'd say the lawn is, it's, it's pretty good.
I mean, I always, if anything, I kind of complain, like, why does it grow so fast?
It's like I can't keep up with it.
You know twice a week.
These guys are crazy.
I mean, once a week, maybe in the summer, rainy.
Yeah.
It gets, it's so thick and it grows so fast, it's hard to believe.
But I will say this for just making very general comment about the whole conversation.
Mowing the lawn, you know, something for white guys.
It is something we enjoy because that's a time where a few certain amount of times a year, I enjoy having a cigar outside in the summertime.
You know, you're mowing the lawn, you got a cigar, maybe you have a beer or two, and it's a nice time to take care of the lawn and do the things.
I don't have a lot of crabgrass for some reason.
Then once in a while, I see a little tuft of it and I just yank it out, you know.
And Sam, if I remember, you're up pretty north too.
So, I mean, it gets hot, but you know, even at the way where you are in the middle of the country, crabgrass, it'll germinate and then, you know, it'll germinate late.
And then the few days where it's really hot, crabgrass even checks out over 80 degrees.
So yeah, when you're in the big, when you're in the Scandinavian areas of the country, your problems with crygrass are much less than the rest of the country.
Yeah, it does appear, but it's not out of control or anything like that.
But I listen with interest to what you have to say.
One thing I'll say as well, like I was talking earlier, like if you, if you cut your grass often, it'll keep the weeds down.
Something else important to note is like weeds grow faster than your grass.
So like mine is just one type of grass.
It's zoysia.
And my neighbors is just all kinds of weeds.
And like even if I, even if I'm just mowing once a week, you know, I'm just cutting maybe like a quarter of an inch of grass off.
My neighbors, their grass after a week is a foot high because it's all weeds.
So they're having, so when they mow, you know, it's harder for them to mow.
It's, you know, they've got all this crap, you know, coming out of their mower, just chunks of grass and stuff, you know.
That's what people feel if they have to rake up and all this other stuff.
I don't have to rake anything because I'm cutting off a quarter of an inch.
You don't want to cut off more than a quarter of an inch within a given mow.
Yeah.
And so it's much easier for me to mow because I don't have those weeds that just, you know, like two days after you mow, it's already four inches higher than the rest of the grass.
So like just simply mowing and mowing often will help keep the weeds down.
But also if you if you recognize what types of weeds you have, it'll kind of give you an idea of what's going on with your lawn.
Like if you have a lot of clover, that means you're nitrogen deficient.
Clover loves nitrogen deficient soil.
So if you're wanting to get rid of clover, you know, you got to, you got to kill it.
But then you need to put nitrogen in there so your grass can fill in that area and hopefully keep the clover out.
So like different weeds will be caused by different things.
Like last last, not this, not this winter, but the winter before was very mild where I'm at.
So it didn't kill a lot of stuff that normally would be killed in the winter, like meadowgrass.
And so I just had a really bad issue with meadowgrass last spring coming through my zoysia.
But I can't do anything, couldn't do anything about it because if I try to kill it, I'm going to brown my zoysia.
So this year, I've got to, before it becomes dormant, I've got to get that under control.
So it was an issue that happened last year that I can't fix until like, you know, this weekend, you know, so you just got to, you know, got to go with what comes along and know what kind of weeds you're dealing with and what kind of grass you have.
But I mean, well, I was just going to say, we're probably making it sound super complicated, but the two biggest things is mow often and have a sharp blade on your mower.
And, you know, and if, and if you want to do a little extra, get out there and water it on occasion when it starts to brown out.
Edging.
Edging is, you know, that puts you up above like 90% of the people that live around you.
Just little things like that, edging, cutting it off.
Aesthetics makes it look a lot better too.
Yeah, it just makes it look cleaner.
On behalf of Echo Fash Gang, I will play a little bit of Devil's Advocate here.
And this comes up anytime a lawnsberg spouts his pride and joy, which is that lawn care is a time-suck, anti-environmental, bourgeois, self-indulgent, sentimental, my little featsis and the nice pretty grass thing.
And they're like, you should grow one of those, you know, rock gardens with, you should buy food instead of grass.
So by all means, take Echo Fash Gang to the woodshed, gentleman.
I would say that's probably an excuse for laziness.
Lucky it is when people seriously same criticisms for people who have financial issues or who are overweight or don't work out.
It's a time management issue.
It's an agency issue.
And it's indicative of a high time preference.
I mean, lawns require a low time preference.
You know, when you overseed and do that work in the fall, you're doing it maybe not even for the spring, but for the next year.
So sometimes you won't see results for a long time.
And as a white man, you have to be okay with that.
You're building a society when you're building a lawn.
It's true.
It's a good analogy.
Like I just said, my neighbor spends more time on their grass because they're having to mow 12 inches off the grass every week.
So they're mowing slower and it makes their yard look like crap.
And me, I don't have all those weeds.
So my yard looks better.
And I'm not even, I'm just mowing.
That's all I'm doing.
You're like, once you get everything set up, it takes care of itself.
Well, and the payoff is when you take a stroll through your yard and the grass is nice and feels nice on your feet, you know, and you walk around.
That's what I like.
Like I say, I have a little more of a yard maybe than some people in the area.
And I enjoy walking through the yard, whether it's with a beverage of your choice in hand or a cigar or listening to a good podcast.
It's enjoyable to stroll through the yard with a nicely kept lawn.
It's like a haircut for your property, too.
In all seriousness, just like a fresh cut makes you look sharper, cutting your lawn properly and one free of weeds will add curb appeal and value to your property too.
You don't want your front yard to look like Chris Tucker and Ice Cube in Friday because then we're going to revoke your white card.
If you remember that classic film early 90s.
Like you were talking about when we first started the sour, you know, just like white people that have nothing but like mud and rocks in their yard.
Like there's a house a few streets over.
It's a nuisance house.
White people like day drinking all day long.
Their yard is just completely ruts and mud and they've got tires that they occasionally decide to burn in the middle of the city.
I mean, just it's just awful.
And their yard looks like crap and everything about where they live looks like crap.
And I'm sure the inside looks like crap.
Yeah, you should see Smasher's yard.
It's exclusively clover.
He's just growing Irish clover all at night.
His yard needs a little bit of work.
I think I've mowed some of his yards.
We're not going to be able to teach everyone the nuances of lawn care and 45 minutes segment.
But I hope that we do encourage some people to look more into it.
But in response to Coach's EcoFash gang statement and then Sam's reference to previously hiring a company, you can be both environmentally friendly and not have to waste money hiring True Green to do something that won't take you that much time and you'll do it better.
You really need three pieces of equipment to run your own lawn.
And that's a lawn mower of some variety.
If you have less than an acre, most people are going to be 2,500 square feet to about 10,000 square feet of lawn.
And you can measure your lawn.
I recommend doing this with apps.
You don't have to get a tape measure and block your perimeter.
You can.
That's cool.
But if you, Yard Mastery has this, Scott's has an app, and you can literally draw lines around your yard and it'll tell you your square feet.
That's probably the first thing you should do.
Get your push mower and you need a trimmer because you can use a trimmer to get rid of nastiness around fences, other types of weeds that you can't control that are just off the border of your property, what have you around trees.
And you can use a trimmer to edge.
That's the second piece of equipment.
And a basic spreader.
Because if you lay down organic fertilizer like malorganite, which is 640, that's NPK.
I'll spare you the details, but that's nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium, the three basic macronutrients that all lawns need.
It's organic and it's low in number, meaning you can put down as much malorganite as you want and you will not burn your lawn.
Now, don't put it down every day, mainly because it smells organic, which is smells like chicken poop or something like that kind of.
So, if you put down malorganite three times a year right now in the spring, in the middle of summer and towards the fall, and you mow twice a week with cool season turfs at 3.5 to 4 inches, and soysia you can take down two inches, whatever you want to do lower, and you water it when it gets hot, you will have a beautiful lawn, even if you do not put down herbicide.
Is there any chance that Zyklon B would be good against weeds?
We'll try it here, maybe this summer, Rusty.
It's not a transition to killing grubs, you know, because Zyklon B was originally used as a pesticide.
Yeah, Zyklon B is excellent against parasites that would damage your lawn, your society.
The grubs, okay.
And I, you know, pesticide's a different conversation, but it's a net, it's a little bit of a next level.
It's not hard either, though.
I do recommend grub X. If you put down grub eggs from Scotts once a year in the spring, in May, for most places in the cool season area, if you do that and then you intermittently spray a fungicide, you can get it on Amazon.
It's called Propoconazole from BioAdvanced.
If you do that, and you can look up what fungus and lawn looks like, but it's very hard, even for advanced lawn people, if they see a brown spot in the lawn, to know what's causing it.
So, I usually recommend treating for all of it prophylactically, which is to say putting down grub eggs once a year and maybe a couple times during the spring and the summer, spraying some antifungal stuff in your lawn.
If you do that, I would consider you advanced.
And if you added a herbicide at some point, you will have what appears to be a manicured lawn and you will have done much better than true green.
You have done, and you will save money.
Because I did the first, I mean, when I first had a home and I did pay a company for a year, and I looked at these guys, you know, growed out here on some riding fertilizer, just cutting divots into my lawn.
I buried barely any fur going down.
I'm like, I can do this and save $300 every couple months.
So, don't pay people to cut your lawn.
That's just embarrassing.
And also, don't pay people to fertilize your lawn because you can do it yourself with products that are not going to burn your lawn and that are going to make you feel good.
And trust me, like Sam said, when you look at that beautiful midsummer manicure 3.5-inch tertiary telfescue with your beer and your cigar and that sunsetting, you're going to feel like a white man.
You're going to feel pride in what you've done.
You don't let another man fertilize your wife and you don't let another man cut your lawn or fertilize your water.
If you need a note, you're zinging tonight, brother.
If you need help identifying what type of grass or weeds you have dealing with, too, there's also the USDA extension offices.
Like, they have somebody there that'll help you identify plants and stuff.
Like, I had a weed, I didn't know what the hell it was.
So, and I couldn't, what I was using wouldn't kill it.
So, I talked to them.
They told me how to get rid of it.
But knowing what kind of grass you have is really important because that'll determine what you can and can't use on it.
Like, I have zoisia.
There's some things I cannot use on my grass.
It will completely destroy it.
And also, like different things like cutting heights.
You know, we were talking four inches earlier.
My grass has to be cut at two.
So, you know, so you want to know what is best for your type of grass.
And if you don't want to get into all of the, like I said, all the other details, just find out the very basics, you know, cutting height, mow often, and then you can start expanding a little bit.
You know, I want to get rid of this patch of clover, kill it, put a little nitrogen there.
If you have bare patches, you know, get you some fertilizer and some seed, you know, and since you know what type of grass you have, you know what type of seed to get.
So, I mean, just little things add up.
Gentlemen, mission accomplished.
Very well done.
I'll give you a hand.
That was a lot of content, and you delivered it well.
I could see the two of you opening up your own lawn care consulting service.
It'd be a little bit like a bunny cop movie, Rusty and Niggy driving around.
Maybe an old late model Chevy Caprice.
Cigars.
And you know what kind of work we could put on the pit bull population at law care?
Almost every home I've ever seen with a pit bull has had a horrible lawn.
Horrible lawns.
So I think there's a correlation there with people that have pit bulls and just having really bad lawns.
Outstanding.
Well, I will, I made notes.
I'll put the links and the companies that you referenced in the show notes.
For listeners, feel free to email us and we will farm out specific, you know, relatively practical questions to Niggy or Rusty.
We should probably caveat and say we are not, this is not an endorsement for those companies.
They don't know who we are.
You know, all that sort of caveat.
It's to say we have no formal affiliation with them or nor they with us.
That's like our finance episode with Bellerophon, where he's like, this is not formal personalized investment.
This is not individualized lawn consulting advice.
Ladies and gentlemen.
All right.
Well done, gents.
Thank you very much.
That was great.
Let's kick our feet up on the desks and wallow in the hard work of Nathaniel Scott.
I got one more cold one in front of me to bring this puppy home.
Here we go, navigating the collapse.
Let's see what's in store for us this week.
Welcome to Navigating the Collapse with your host, Nathaniel Scott.
Black History Month, and with it, big boy season is officially over.
That means the winter bulk is at an end, and you should start losing all that fat you accumulated.
Losing fat is easy, in theory.
Simply use more calories than you eat.
Therefore, you can tackle this problem from two angles.
Limit your calorie intake and increase your output.
Here are some tips on how to do that.
Most of this information comes from HerculeanStrength.com.
Go check them out.
One way to increase calorie output is by increasing your base metabolic rate.
This means you are burning more calories during your day-to-day activities or while at rest.
The first way to do that is by building muscle.
A pound of lean muscle burns about 20 to 30 calories per day while at rest.
This means that if you put on 10 pounds of muscle, you automatically burn 200 to 300 more calories every day.
When trying to lose weight, you should always put on muscle first.
Another way is by cold exposure.
The colder it is, the more energy you have to burn to keep warm.
You can accomplish this while at home by keeping the thermostat lower or by going outside to exercise while the weather is still chilly.
A brisk morning walk in shorts and a t-shirt will wake you up, get your blood flowing, and start the calories burning.
You can also incorporate cold showers or cold interval showers if you're brave enough.
You can also boost your resting metabolic rate with your diet.
Black coffee raises your metabolic rate by 3 to 11% and suppresses your appetite.
Just be careful not to go overboard or become dependent.
You can also eat more protein-rich foods.
Protein is harder for the body to digest, meaning you burn calories while digesting the food and can burn more than double the amount you would while eating carbohydrates.
In addition, it is also very satiating, so you'll have less of an urge to snack.
Of course, these tips are only supplements and should not take the place of a healthy diet and workout routine.
Get off your butt and get to work.
And now, select quotations from Ion Ogoranu, a member of the Iron Guard who lived in the mountains and led a paramilitary resistance against the Soviet occupation of Romania after the Second World War.
His struggle is captured in the 2010 film, Portrait of the Fighter as a Young Man.
What drove us was the love for this nation, free from pettiness.
We learned to look at our nation, as well as everything in the world, in terms of love.
You exist if you love, and you can get to a higher level if you sacrifice yourself for this love.
We do not admire our nation, nor seek to understand it and study it under who knows what principle invented by the human mind.
We love it, as it is, as a child loves his parents, and we would not exchange it for any other country, not even in our thoughts, as any mother in the world would not exchange her baby.
In our hearts and minds, we never harbored the dreams and thoughts of emigration to God knows what happy country.
We wanted to stay here, partakers of the pains and joys of the people, of its destiny, in the wave in which we want to melt our destinies together.
And especially, we felt God's hand in the black hours, when our poor human strengths would have led us to death and despair.
Here on the mountain's peak, we felt the Lord's words that told us that without him we cannot do anything.
And us, through our suffering, we learned to love him.
Because until you are suffering for no reason, even a slap or a swearing, until then, you cannot understand the drama of Golgotha.
These thoughts, tormented in the long winter nights, buried in snow on the peaks of the Carpathians, or during the watches with our weapons in our hands, we are dedicating to you, young people from villages and towns, as a sign of our love for you.
As some who will have the chance to see and to fulfill the great and brilliant Romanian victory, even if we ourselves shall not.
In the battles in the mountains, we were just injured, but none of us got killed.
Killed we were only when we were sold out.
I am saying with pain in my voice, the betrayal of a brother is a national disease which will kill us all if we do not succeed in healing ourselves.
The regimes are changing, but the profiteers are not.
It remains the big mass of those who are working, whose life is reduced to work and food, in an eternal cycle and whose consciousness is not higher than the food on the plate in front of their mouth.
With them, the rulers can do whatever they want.
So first of all, we must think with our brains instead of our stomachs.
Hell yeah.
Thank you, Nathaniel Scott.
This week, the first half, very, very relevant, almost like he was talking to me.
Coach, the bulking season is over.
Get cracking.
And in that spirit, yeah.
Not the, I guess, the 40-year-old non-virgin update.
I have been a very good boy this year, but in particular since turn 40, I have been teetotaling almost every night, getting more sleep, feeling better, more energy.
Haven't got back to weightlifting yet, but going to be hitting the pavement and getting beach body ready by May or June at the latest.
And all of our audience should as well, for the very good reason, because if you're going to hold our opinions, you better look like you represent them as well as just talk a good game or shit post on the internet.
And thank you for that.
He's really digging into the archives there.
I'd never heard of that guy either.
Presumably a Kodrianu associate from the Iron Guard.
Gentlemen, we are at two hours already, and Mr. Producer gets cranky when we go overtime.
Sergeant, go around the horror, Mr. Producer.
I don't think I thanked you last week, but thank you very much.
You're welcome.
All right.
Best of you and your lovely family, buddy.
Samuel, my man.
Thank you, sir.
You were a little bit more quiet this week, but understandably, because we had two, you know, well, you were Gabby at the top, and then these guys took over.
Yeah, very interesting.
You know, I learned a lot.
And I remember last year, about this time, we had the gardening episode.
Sure.
And that got me into gardening.
And this whole discussion has definitely piqued my interest in the grass.
And I'll just throw in here one other thing that I'm doing the push mower.
And like I said, I don't have a gigantic lot here, but maybe a little bit bigger than you might think in an urban area.
And mowing the lawn with a push mower is excellent exercise.
Yeah.
So throw some weights in a backpack.
How about that?
Yeah.
There you go.
Rucking and mowing.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, you know, it's a couple of hours of really serious work walking and lifting and bagging and all that stuff.
So good discussion all around.
I thought it was fascinating.
Absolutely.
Don't forget, Sam, to mow a little circle for a landing strip or a sprout in your yard to see the native grasses do their thing.
Although these two guys might say that that need sprouts, yeah.
Yeah, I did that last year with your suggestion of what your old man used to do.
And I went around a certain area and left it long.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Kind of cool.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And that also reminds me, we had a listener reach out who he's basically like, coach, I can fill in a lot of the gaps from the gardening episode.
So I have to go back in the email and find that guy because it was so long.
It was winter.
So I was like, let's do it in spring.
But we can definitely do a refresher because, yeah, if you're not growing your own food, whether you live in the city with a little balcony or whether you live out in the country, I think you're doing yourself and your family a disservice this year.
Rusty, thank you so much, sir, as always.
Pleasure to have you back on.
It's been a while.
It has.
Happy to be back on.
Remember, lawns are like societies with little tender love and care, and you allow your turf grass to be homogenous, it will do its own work.
It will protect itself against invasion.
You will get exercise and you will get that fulfillment that is deep in the race of tending and knowing your own land.
It is deep in our blood, and there's an almost inexpressible joy from maintaining a well-appearing lawn.
So I highly recommend it.
Amen.
Totally sincere.
I'm not even going to make a joke about that.
Yep.
Get on the rusty and great ape Niggy good-looking grass lawn express.
Niggy, thanks so much for coming back.
It's been a while for you too, pal.
Yes, it has been a while.
I need to, I didn't do any podcasts for quite a while.
Just been trying to, you know, declutter my life a little bit, but, you know, it's fun getting back into it.
Absolutely.
And you went on at least one hate house recently, which I just learned is back up on TRS.
Is that right?
Yes, definitely.
It's absolutely fun doing podcasts with Larry.
He's just so naturally funny.
And I don't think he realizes just how funny he is.
He's just, it's hilarious.
Absolutely.
And Mr. Producer finally put down the Cheetos and playing video games during the show to remind us that you did an outstanding job with the abortion monologue, which we didn't plan it as a monologue, but it ended up being one.
And that is up on YouTube in which you totally nailed so-called conservatives and the grand old part, great old party, grand old party to the cross for their failures of over 50 years to do nothing essentially about abortion.
And that was a very popular video.
Wonderful job.
I think MP put the imagery together for that.
So thank you, buddy.
That's on youtube.com slash C slash fullhouse.
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, let's bring this puppy home.
Full House episode 81 was taped on another cold Thursday night out here in the great Appalachian hinterlands.
Coach's gazebo, I'm burning more calories.
Thanks to Nathaniel Scott.
I know, yeah, that's what I'm doing.
I'm out here burning calories.
Future home of White America's last stand.
I genuinely believe that is going to be Appalachia.
We started on March 4th.
It's now March 5th, 2021.
Do follow us on Telegram at prowhite fam.
That is going to be our alert system, Full House Alert System there instead of Twitter.
And for any of our back shows dating to episode one in April of 2019, to this episode, t.me/slash fullhouse shows every single one up there for easy download.
So to all white families who are maybe a little bit nervous about the prospect or the looming fear about divorce, or whether it's a pit bull in your next door neighbor's yard or the weeds that are starting to sprout in your yard, have no fear.
Full house is here, and we're going to make it through this together.
This week had a very difficult time choosing the closing song, but since we had Where'd You Go for the Break by the Inimitable Mr. Bond? We are going out with another one that's somewhat similar.
And this is the greatest 80s rock love ballad you maybe have never heard.
And it's called Jackie by Survivor.
We love you, fam.
We will talk to you next week.
And without Smasher here, we can all say it on the count of three.
Three, two, one.
See ya.
Sing it!
Throwing good sense down the drain.
But the dance would always tease me.
It was love at ease of me.
Believing that good times forever less.
And love is a thing of the past.
Jackie, no, Jackie, don't go.
You're my heart at the bottom.
Jackie Goldstone.
Jackie, please.
I'm not a babies.
Let's do it again.
I was there feels I was hot enough.
I put Jackie on a pedestal so high above.
Buck and move our singer.
And alone was all it took when it came to fool behaving.
Me and Jackie, we wrote the book.
Believing that good friends forever last.
Now love is a thing in the past.
Jackie, no, Jackie don't know.
You're my heart and follow.
Jackie Gonzalez.
Jackie, please, I'm gonna make these.
Let's do it again.
Jackie stayed.
I'm living each day in the streets of the city, calling your name.
Jackie, please, this is a good thing.
Let's do it again.
In the beginning, all the time we spent together, never further than our heartbeat away.
Did you try to be pleased, Jackie, you were living?