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If you're listening to this show, you've almost certainly seen at least one example of the public demonstrations of Patriot Front.
Whatever your opinion of them, there's no question that they are a disciplined, committed, and brave group of men.
Tonight, we will dig into the ethos and objectives of America's most prominent pro-white activist organization with none other than its founder, Thomas Rousseau.
Now, Thomas is a notoriously laid-back and whimsical kind of guy, so we're going to do our best to get him to be serious for a change.
So, Mr. Producer, light those smoke grenades.
Welcome, everyone,
to episode 71 of Full House, the world's most unwavering show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole biofam.
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That's right.
We did the bit, cut our own live tree this year for the first time.
Coach Finstock, back with another two hours of the serious and the sublime.
Before we get cracking tonight, though, big thanks to our big racks of supporters this week: Fritz, super anonymous guy, Dan Lather, Russell, and Victor all helped to keep the lights on around here amidst a looming dark winter and a great reset.
But seriously, to paraphrase, Tiny Tim, God bless you guys, all of you.
And with that, let's get on to the birth panel.
First up, he is rearing to go tonight, as usual, because before the show, he was boasting about how he was going to school this young whippersnapper about how we did things in the good old days.
Sam, welcome back.
Thanks, Coach.
That's uh, that's hilarious.
He did nothing of the sort, I promise.
Yeah, it's it's great to be here.
I had a great Thanksgiving last week.
Uh, you know, it's been a tradition in our house.
We always watch the parades in the morning.
I don't know if that's anyone else's thing, but since I was a wee lad, we would always watch the parade going on in New York, as well as flipping back and forth to the parade in our local big city.
And uh, but now this year is kind of different because with all the COVID-19 and all that, the local parade was canceled entirely, and the New York parade was reduced to one or two city blocks and a lot of uh studio recorded things.
And um, you know, uh, I hold on to the memories of uh years gone by and the way the parades were, and uh, needless to say, they get more paused every year.
Sure, and uh, so we watched it for a little while, but then I uh I went in the attic and I got out my big box, one of my big boxes, one of several big boxes of cassette tapes, because in there was a uh I remember uh I haven't listened to for probably at least 10 years or more, but back in the day, there was a I remember having this cassette and it told the true story of Thanksgiving.
And I said, to hell with this, these paused parades and canceled parades.
So, I went up there and I got this big box out of cassette tapes.
And my youngest son, who actually just had a birthday, he was so impressed that I had so many cassette tapes.
So I got out the cassette tapes.
And if you don't know the real story of Thanksgiving, you should.
And maybe that would be a topic for another time.
Maybe next year I could do a deep dive in Thanksgiving.
And of course, it's like from a white nationalist type perspective.
So we got out the tape and we listened to that instead.
And we had a nice family Thanksgiving, not observing any kind of limitations of, you know, congregants or how many people you could have in one house.
So sure thing.
Yeah, that's that's great stuff, Sam.
It doesn't surprise me you have a big cassette collection up in the attic, nor the juniors.
What is it?
How does it work, Father?
But yeah, you know, growing up in South Jersey, the mummers were the big thing in Philadelphia, at least for New Year's, maybe other holidays.
So that kind of turned me off from parades, these garish, over-the-top displays.
I was just like, I don't know what's going on there, but I don't like the marching bands and I like the big balloons, you know, coming down the street and all that.
And anyways, that was a little kid.
Yeah.
Yeah, kid at heart for sure.
100%.
Well, be gentle with Thomas tonight, Sam.
All right.
I will.
Me too.
Okay.
Very good.
Next up, rumor has it that he's been in the cut for several months over in the dark continent, forming up a new competing group called African Front.
They have the best optics consisting of wearing Super Bowl champion t-shirts of all the teams that actually lost each year.
Jo, thank you for your service over there.
How's it going?
Blood and soil.
Blood and soil.
Leave me alone.
No, glad to be back.
I will get to Mars if I have to walk.
I saw you have your Tesla or your SpaceX hat on tonight.
You are SpaceX, yeah.
Good for you.
Yeah, I appreciate that you still have some of that lingering enthusiasm for the great white men trying to reach into the stores, but glad to have you back.
All right, finally, our special guest and very patient guest this week.
In all seriousness, he is an inspiring leader, utterly committed to our cause, and has put more work into this thing that most of you Slackers out there put together.
Thomas Rousseau, welcome to Full House.
We are honored to have you on.
Hello, and thank you very much for having me.
Our pleasure.
And yeah, we traded emails a while back to have you on, and I'm glad it finally worked out.
And just to be clear up front, Thomas, you are not typing at this moment, right?
Not at this moment, but I can start at any time.
No promises.
That's a little bit of an inside baseball meme joke there.
But anyway, Thomas, you know our drill.
So please lay it on the audience, your ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status.
Of course.
So as far as my ethnicity, I view myself as ethnically American, as I believe ethnicity is a factor and a component of nationhood.
My ancestors came from the British Isles at some point in the far past.
I know it was before the Revolution, but beyond that, I'm otherwise uncertain of the specifics.
You know, and I believe not only am I ethnically American, but I have made myself American more than just that in my convictions and in my actions.
I have realized the opportunity of the blood that I have inherited from my forefathers.
So there's a little bit of extra importance in that, in my belief.
You said the next was my religion?
Yeah, if you don't mind.
So a little bit more, a little bit more moderate on that front.
I'm broadly not very religious.
I wouldn't necessarily consider myself agnostic or atheist, although in discussions with others in the past, I've been stated to fall into one of those categories, depending on variance of opinion.
I do believe that religion is immensely important and a powerful aspect of our national heritage.
And I have seen many cases in which some of the organization's activists have been motivated very strongly and given the invaluable guidance in their actions and their lives as a result of their faith.
As far as the organization, it's formally secular, very likely as an extent of my personal beliefs and experiences over the years.
But nonetheless, we are in favor of having a faith beyond yourself in something so long as it's of a desirable content and subject matter.
Sure thing.
Were you raised in a faith and it never stuck or not from the conception of the yes, I was raised by Christian parents.
I'm not exactly sure what denomination.
And that could tell you just how faint it was.
It was the kind of thing where you go on some of the holidays and you don't go on others and was never really a very large subject matter.
And I've had my debates and my personal evaluations of whether I should have become religious when I was growing up and going through high school.
And eventually I ended up in more or less the same area where I started, which was coming to a more understanding of the values of faith in a broader context than simply adhering to a Christian or even some sort of a pagan faith of a different kind.
But nonetheless, I've still met and have very good friends.
A lot of members of the organization are very heavily Christian.
And like I said, it provides them with a deep motivation and spiritual guidance that a lot of people do really find a lot of value in.
And I absolutely respect that.
Absolutely.
And yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's no surprise for the audience.
I suspect, so far as I know, you are a bachelor without children, correct?
Yes.
I am currently, quote, married to the cause, as it were, and I have no immediate plans of a fatherhood or family of my own.
That is not to say that I wouldn't be interested in the matter, but I have placed all of my worldly efforts and organizing at the forefront of my interest in the world.
I hear that, ladies.
I know, right?
The lewds are going to be coming, Thomas.
Yes, but other matters have fallen by the wayside.
I am of a, because talking to people and wanting to dispel notions, I am of a firm and resolute belief that family and organizing extra-politically go hand in hand.
Having a family is something that obviously a lot of our activists do.
I'm not sure on the statistics, but wives and children are not something which should be seen as a detraction from our work, but as a touchstone of relation to our cause, as an imminently real aspect of the necessity of what we're doing.
Strong families breed strong nations.
Yes, that is absolutely strong.
I got a little handout placard.
I was attending a concert and I saw some Patriot Front materials out there, so I grabbed one.
Really?
Interesting.
It's on my refrigerator.
That's awesome.
Well, hopefully, we'll be able to have many more of those on many more refrigerators.
So, at some point, I will likely probably meet a person who will allow me to exercise that balance of interests.
But as far as now goes, I am married to the cause, as it were.
I respect that.
Yeah, I mean, you're in your early 20s, if I understand.
So, yeah, you got a few years.
We'll cut you a little bit of slack there, Tom.
Just a few.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Don't wait too long.
Two more personal questions or individual questions before we move on to Patriot Front, because you are a little bit of a mystery man, which I suspect is partially by design.
But you talked, I'll flag the interview that you did with Keith Woods, which was excellent.
And we're going to try not to be redundant with that.
But there are a couple of questions that I want to, you know, it's worth hitting on twice.
You came to your views, you know, in your teens, I understand it, probably in large respect from the internet.
But did something happen to wake you up to the cause?
Were you always like this?
Were your parents involved at all?
How'd you get to be pro-white and have the fire in your belly?
Certainly.
And, you know, I will say I haven't had moments of transformation in belief.
I believe it's been more a process of me coming to better and better ways of explaining the beliefs that I've had in essence all along.
So really early on, I think one of the first entry points into me thinking about ideals and the real whys and the purpose of life was my initiative in getting into fitness and personal improvement.
And from there, you know, there's a strong trend among, you know, internet communities where personal improvement and fitness inevitably end up in various causes of an extra political nature.
And I believe that is by their nature.
And I, you know, I remember back in 2016 and 2017, I was in very purely online spheres of meme making and group chats and that sort of thing.
And I got into organizing in a rather less than serious or less than ideal context for a long time, about a year, year and a half.
The details are elusive.
But, you know, and then obviously it all culminated in what I believe was the most transformative part of that early phase, which was the whole Charlottesville nonsense, which became where everything was laid out on the table, so to speak.
And I really could view the past and the present at the same time.
And that really allowed me to come to terms with a lot of the things that I'd been doing previously.
I was able to separate what was working and what was good and what was maybe just a result of a little bit of youthful ignorance.
And I think, you know, I did my best to learn from that and move on.
Yeah.
JO and I are veterans, of course, and being through that crucible, it always surprised me that guys could go through that and not come away with more fire in their belly as opposed to slinking away and saying, oh, well, this is all a lost cause or, you know, the system got us because everything was on the table there to see how they set it up.
Yeah, go ahead.
And I saw, you know, and I was, you know, obviously I had a very limited perception and role and everything that went on.
I was, you know, a lot of it, I felt very much as if you were along for the ride just because of the chaos.
But I saw a lot of the mistakes of people who were led down improper and very much non-giving back routes and organizing.
And I saw all the chaotic misfortune that came as a result of it.
Because, you know, you obviously know a lot of people and you hear lots of stories and many things that happened were not productive.
They were not things that people should have dealt with in comparison to what they got.
And I saw that the movement at the time became a multiplicity of unproductive, counterproductive squabbles between people who were either thinking without acting or acting without thinking.
And I believe from that point onward, I strive to make Patriot Front a successful refutation of many of those, thankfully, long since retired arguments from 2017 with our committance to thoughtful action.
Amen.
Yeah, bless you for that.
And you mentioned politics right there and divisions on our side.
I put out the other day that, yeah, in 2017, we were at each other's throats, God, for like two years over optics, that cursed word and term.
And now today, a little bit of politics, it's between, I don't know if it's the 5% so much, but guys who are basically saying told you so, Trump was always a shill versus guys who were out there hustling the fraud narrative.
And we still got to support Trump, if not the GOP.
So did you vote in this past election?
And where do you stand, at least roughly, between there is no political solution versus GOP cuckoldry?
I know you're not on that side, but we'll have that one.
Yeah.
Of course.
So if I may, first, I'd like to touch on your reference of the whole years-long debates over optics.
And I think it's very interesting having organized as an organization, largely in the same general context as we do today through the entirety of that, because Patriot Front was started a few months before you could argue that some of that stuff had really began or picked up speed.
And it was interesting because I saw many of the arguments about optics as a very useless way of avoiding the fact that you need to have an honest message.
Many of the arguments were held in very public spaces.
And it was as if, you know, optics was a sense that you should make your political message, your ideals into some elaborate, you know, ruse that's complicated enough to trick people into liking you.
And it seemed like nobody on any either side of the loudest spaces had the idea of why don't we just believe what we say and we say what we believe?
And then, you know, the results of our actions, the tactical viability of our efforts will be seen through the ideals if we're truthfully representing them.
And I feel like we've done that as an organization.
I know many more have learned that lesson since.
And that's the best way to measure success in my mind.
I have sneaking up on conservatives tactic was ever going to work.
Right.
I have some observations on that.
Fire sam.
Yeah.
I like the way that Patriot Front has a very carefully presented image and message.
And, you know, there's something very implicit in the way that we present icons and use icons or present imagery and things like that.
And I'll just make a little bit of analogy.
The skinhead style and music is near and dear to my heart from the time when I was a teenager.
And the thing is, like we would have occasionally we'd have what we call the baldies would come along and they would have the good record contracts or whatever.
And the baldies, which means an anti-racist, so-called presenting skinhead, they would have their music and their bands and their imagery.
But the fact is, even though they were so-called anti-racist, the images are communicating nationalism, if you understand my meaning.
So the style of the music communicates nationalism, despite what the lyrics might be, despite that some of these guys were fags or communists or whatever it is or Negroes.
And the same thing here, like, okay, so we're using this red, white, and blue and the American colors or American flag imagery.
But the way the formations are and the way the style of the message is delivered communicates a very strongly nationalistic feeling.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And that is, it's very smart and it's very clever because this is the way I look at it.
It's being done in a way, it's not like offensive.
It's being done in a way to communicate to people where people are right now.
And I'm somebody who is very turned off by the American flag.
I would never fly an American flag.
I would never salute an American flag.
But I have to say, there's something very heartwarming to see these guys in formation doing their things or doing the banner drops or whatever it is.
And they're using that American context, the red, white, and blue and the flags.
It honestly, it warms my heart, you know, and it's kind of wins me back to that.
And we've talked about on this show before, you know, patriotism is something that should be instinctual and innate.
And somebody that is not patriotic is somebody we don't like, you know, but even though we're turned off, we're turned off by our American politics and the American government.
But a person should love their country, you know?
So I feel like that's what Patriot Front is giving back.
So comment on that if you wish to.
Yeah, Thomas, let's put Trump and the election on ice just for a couple of minutes there and jump into that one, the Americana optics.
I'll be candid.
When you guys got going, I said, love everything they're doing, support them.
However, red, white, and blue Americana is a little bit, for me, it was a little bit of cognitive dissonance because I always said this seems like a zombie nation and that those things have been co-opted by the enemy and the red, white, and blue doesn't mean what it used to be.
And it's too difficult to change that back.
So I know you've had this question before.
Have at it.
Yes.
So, of course, you know, there is oftentimes made, you know, the mistake of thinking that the organization is, you know, some sort of nostalgic, you know, motivated force trying to bring back or win back some particular era in American history.
But in truth, what we embody is something which is summarized at the end of our manifesto, which is something which is revolutionary yet familiar, where we realize that no nation and especially no state is immune to the corruptions of time.
So it's part of the belief that, you know, obviously a man can't be judged harshly for events or things happening, you know, centuries after his death, just as I wouldn't want to be given blames for my words or context, being given a meaning currently absent 300 years from now.
We shouldn't do that among our own nation.
But we have a belief that nations are natural collectives.
They are intra-racial and extra-communal collectives of mankind.
And because they are made up of men and people and because they have this naturalistic quality, that they should be judged in a natural context.
And, you know, we don't give undue veneration to our ancestors because we know that they were all men of their circumstances as we are today.
But we also don't forget that in order to adhere to the nation's cause, you need to find the best aspects of your national heritage and bind those best aspects, those most prolific moments, you know, those most insightful ideals.
Bind them into a singular national ideology.
And you need to bring that to bear upon the forces which seek to deny you.
And in reference to our, you know, the American flag style, we exclusively use the 13-star banner in exclusion of the 50-star flag, which is only ever used in its inverted state.
And that, you know, goes into our conception of for the nation against the state, which is why you will commonly see that we use a symbol which is the 50-star flag inverted beneath the 13-star flag in a singular banner.
And in reference, our Independence Day actions in Chicago of this year had a very large inverted 50-star front and center right behind me.
So, you know, as I said, we recognize that our nation, you know, our people and all nations ultimately are natural collectives, right?
And we, and as they are natural collectives, they are given certain rights by nature itself, which cannot be violated by a government, which will then be able to retain its legitimacy.
Because if I recall from my Boy Scout days, the inverted flag means distress.
Yes.
And what are we in if not distress?
No question about it.
I have a hard time.
I've never been more bummed out about this country than I was this past July 4th because, you know, I'm an American.
I like being an American.
Like you said, I'm an ethnic American.
I might be of like Anglo-German stock, but my accent, the food I eat, the things I grew up with, et cetera, like everyone on this show right now is inescapably American, as much as you might object to, you know, the state and decisions that the government has made, continues to make, the leadership they're in.
Go ahead.
That gave me very much an affinity for your propaganda and your optics.
And it's funny because, you know, I've never been sort of more out of love with this country than I have been in the last, you know, six, eight, 10 months.
And when I hear someone else start to insult the country, I get defensive.
You know, like even when I agree with them, like Sam is just saying, like, I don't like that flag.
I'd never salute that flag, blah, blah, blah.
And this tiny little piece of me still, it's like, hey, man, how about you take it easy?
Latent patriotism.
Yeah.
I like to call America that we were the first European union with a small you, and then we either threw it away or we had it subverted and stolen from us through the sins of our proof of that, what you're saying is if you have to deal with especially Europeans, and I'm saying even other white people, but European people, sometimes if you work with them in business or something,
they will be a little bit arrogant and they will be critical of the United States or something like that.
But they're here making their living.
And the tree with the most people throw the rocks at the tree with the most fruit.
Sure.
All right, Thomas, we know what you guys do, and we talked a little bit about your ideology there.
But what are you hoping to achieve?
Who are you trying to reach with this stuff?
try to add guys who are on the fence or are you trying to raise or maybe it's both you know raise uh mass awareness because i can see a normie or certainly a lefty walking by one of your demos either with hostility or confusion so having that one sure sure and if i could please touch on the aspect of patriotism before getting into that there's a very specific reason that we uh the organization usually you know,
differentiates itself from the very commonly made specific political labels of the contemporary and the more historical context where we use the term patriot.
We use the term that patriotism to define our work.
And that's because patriotism is something innate.
It is something primordial.
It is something which predates politics as we know them.
And it is something which needs to outlive politics as we know them if we as a nation are to also outlive politics as we know them.
So in terms of our demonstrations in terms of the audience, there is obviously a larger audience online to our demonstrations than there is in person.
But that does not escape the fact that our demonstrations have been seen by hundreds, if not thousands of people over the times that we've done them.
And of course, it varies depending on demonstration to demonstration because of locality, time, and luck.
Saw you guys in D.C.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Very many people saw us there.
And as well, our most recent action in Pittsburgh, we had every single car coming down the street in front of the city county building.
Many people pulled out their cell phones and stood for the entire length of the speech recording us on the other end of the sidewalk.
I would say several dozen.
And there were very many people, as you can see in the video, actually sticking their cell phones out of their sunroofs as they drove by.
So very much people see us.
And we do get many members who join as a result of seeing our activism in person.
That's less common with the demonstrations because they're more time and place, but it's much more common with the promotional materials where anybody can find them because of just how prevalent they are with 30 some odd cities being visited every single day.
As Sam, I believe, said he found one at one of the concerts he went to.
So many people join because of that.
And many people also join because of the content that they see online where we take our actions and we turn them into the most condensed, concise, representative, digital media that really tells people what we are, what we're about, and what they too can have in store.
So what we're looking for is primarily activists.
We are an activist organization.
We wear our tactics on our sleeves, obviously.
Anybody who's interested in seeing what we do necessarily or what they would be getting into doesn't need any deep examination skills.
It's all there.
So what we're looking for is people who are willing to be active.
They are willing to become a representative of not only the organization, but the nation's cause as it stands, which requires a certain amount of loyalty and courage and strength against adversity.
If any of you watched our recent Pittsburgh demonstration video, it begins with an organizational pledge.
And those words are not stated idly.
Those words are something which people really believe.
And that's what we're looking for.
We're looking for people who can really live and devote themselves in a proper and educated, a safe way, but they can do it and they can really believe and they can commit their lives or at least the section of their lives that we can work with them for to something greater than themselves.
And it's something which you really have to take seriously because as we've grown over the years, our reach has gotten much larger.
Our ability to hold these actions has become much greater.
And we are more and more quickly becoming a very big part of the, you know, the street activism context in the entire country.
You know, we are a name that's on more and more tongues every day.
And we need people who can take that immense responsibility that we have been given by our popularity or notoriety, depending on who you are, and really learn to function within that.
Before I forget to ask, Thomas, when you give your demonstration speeches or exhortations, calls to action, do you write those and memorize them or do you speak from the heart and let it rip?
Both.
Usually, usually, unfortunately, during the past three large ones, we're Chicago, D.C., and recently Pittsburgh.
I had my sheet with some of my talking points written down in case there were any issues in memorization.
But usually I do write them many days beforehand and then I memorize them and then I speak them from my heart.
And of course, there's usually a little bit of ad-libbing going on because you get caught up in the moment and you speak from whatever is feeling welling up in your spirit.
It's a very, you know, it's a very unique experience.
But I will say for the Pittsburgh speech, it was written many days before the, you know, the demonstration actually occurred, before Election Day, even.
So it was written with the complete ability to apply to either candidate.
It could have been about Trump.
It could have been about Biden.
It could have been about neither of them.
And it still would have been correct in either way.
So that's something we really wanted to make sure for that one.
We were entirely non-dependent, non-reactionary to the conventional political whims of the election.
I could believe from, you know, we just from speaking to you in this show here, how well that you speak extemporaneously.
You have a certain oratory style that I think you could, like you say, you have an outline of what you want to say, but you could add libit too.
That's a little low energy though, Thomas.
Maybe a cup of coffee before you go out next time.
My only question about your, I'll say, performance in particular at the events is when are you going to bring back the leather jacket?
That was like rock star stuff, dude.
So killer up there.
Yeah, I thought the cowboy hat was certainly enough to create a little bit of an iconic look.
I got new boots and everything for it.
Yes.
And it's interesting that you called activism, you know, a performance.
And, you know, I don't take that as a slight.
In any way, I think activism is a performance.
And I think people lose the concept of a demonstration as meaning literally a demonstration of your work, a demonstration of your capabilities.
You know, people, people, you know, on Twitter after we do these actions, it's like, oh, you only went out with, you know, 100 plus guys and marched over a mile through downtown Pittsburgh and then stopped every single traffic and traffic car and pedestrian in the area to stop and listen to your speech for a few minutes.
You know, you only did that, you know, as if a dumbass.
Yeah.
As if we were supposed to burn down the building.
So activism is a, it is a, it is an art form.
It is a demonstration of your quality, your commitment.
It's your power, really.
I mean, to show that you can do it.
That's what I think.
And I thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing that in Chicago, just to show that you could do it.
You know, I think back through different times in my life, I've been involved in different things now and then.
Just to show that you can do it is, man, that really chuffs the enemy, you know?
And I think someone said it's, you know, really just the vision of our activists and our members being our greatest symbol because, you know, you can have whatever on the banners, you can have whatever on the flags, but the core, your men, how they stand, how they walk, how loud your chants are, how high they can carry themselves, and how much they can stay in proper, you know, regimented formation, and they can really live that experience and they can be a full representation.
You know, that we say our members are our greatest symbol because they are the corporeal representation of our ideals.
Well, I'll tell you what, I've never been a member.
I'm not a member, but my pitch, if anyone was thinking about joining, is keep it this simple.
You look really cool out there and it's super exhilarating and you feel like you're accomplishing something.
Go one time.
Go do activism.
Because I've been out in front of the White House.
I was at Charlottesville.
I've done a bunch of stuff.
But it just feels so cool.
And I can imagine it feels even cooler.
A hundred of you are dressed the same.
You're walking down through whatever.
Everyone's afraid to get in your way.
Like it's a fun and powerful feeling.
100%.
Jay, let's do it again.
Come on.
Charlotteville, New Year's Eve.
Yeah.
Just you and me.
Just you and me.
Just me.
All right.
All right.
Tempted.
All right.
We're going to kicking and screaming.
He's Mr. Producer says seeing Patriot Front actions take place in towns I know around the country was exciting in capital letters.
And I'll just echo that too, because there's so many ups and downs in this cause of us, so many reasons to black pill to despair and want to quit and wring your hands of it all.
And when you watch one of these things, especially God to your acrobats who get up pretty high in the sky for some activism, that will get your heart pumping.
That's so cool.
That gives you goosebumps.
Absolutely.
Another favorite of mine was there was a count.
I forget what their last action was before the big one in Chicago, but on the on Twitter, underneath one of the PF guys posting the video, some dude posts, I bet y'all niggas wouldn't do that in Chicago.
And then the next one at night.
Yeah, it's certainly one thing to watch it.
And even I get the feeling of excitement watching members from around the country do their thing because a lot of it is entirely people just going out and doing these things.
You know, people are competent and very experienced in a lot of this thing.
But it's really nice knowing that no matter who you are or where you live in the country, you are probably not any more than 20 miles maximum from an instance of PF activism this year alone.
I believe last year in total, we maybe did around 2,000 instances of activism and we are nearing in on 4,000 to over 4,000 for this year.
So we have over doubled our reach, but not only in numerical interest, but also in the breadth.
We have blanketed the continent and people had a lot of notions in the past that occupying public space was something which could not be done.
But we have proved that it can be done.
It's just maybe harder than some of them were willing to exert themselves for, but it can be done.
It can be done safely.
It can be done properly.
And it can be done with men who really exhibit the qualities that not only we show, but that we demand from those who want to in turn help us and be a part of that revolutionary experience.
I thought I ran into a PC or propaganda once, but it was actually a recruiting flyer for a trucking company that's propaganda looks almost exactly like you guys need to start your own truck companies.
You can get the sponsored by you all at this point.
I saw a sticker on a lamppost at a grocery store in my town once.
I said, you know, I'd like to think of myself as a guy who's, you know, in the know.
I'm like, what the hell?
There's somebody around here.
He didn't tell me.
But, all right, we've done enough Patriot Front fanboying here for a little bit.
And let's get, no, I'm joking, of course, but you deserve it.
And the most common question, I put out feelers for people.
I don't know if members were asking questions, but guys who are familiar with your work.
And the number one question that I received was, okay, what is the end game?
Now, I'll preface that with obviously the end game is intergalactic white imperium, in my own words.
But at the same time, seriously, we don't want to give the game away.
And there's a lot of baseball to play in terms of cliches and stuff.
But one commenter said, Thomas, he said, step one, organize, step two, activism.
Step three, question mark.
Step four, victory.
So if you can, fill in a little bit of that for people wondering what you're trying to do here in a broader sense.
So the individual in question, whoever you may be, has the first one or two steps right.
Immediately, the interests of the organization are activism for the purpose of promotion, for the means of getting our message out there, for the means of showing people who and what we are.
Because unless people know who you are, you can't get more of them.
And if you can't get more of them, you can't do bigger stuff.
So improvement of our tactical and our logistical skills to enhance the viability and the cost effectiveness and the safety of our actions is then put into the actions of activism.
And this in turn builds us a larger skill set that helps all of our efforts broadly.
You know, an activism done right necessitates that good men become greater.
It is a task and completing and learning that task is something which enhances the quality of the men involved in it.
It necessitates and it demands that they organize themselves in a proper way according to their strengths and their skills.
And those skills sought in organization, which activism is derivative from, are seen in all aspects of life and the improvements that we demand carry on forward.
Young men enter the organization and they receive strong brotherhood and they set themselves up for a lifetime of strength and convictions.
And that's not even talking about the experiences that they gain and seeing how transformative that is in how they think and how they act.
And they take every single inch of that into their personal lives, into their social lives, into their experience, whether it's at work, whether it's at school, if they're going to college, whether it's even talking to some lady that they may like.
And beyond that, on the other end, men who have experienced perhaps some of the wrong paths in life are given alternatives and a new chance where, you know, where everyone else in common society may have forgotten them or written them off.
We have activists who had very little going for them before they got involved.
And in the past year or two, they have absolutely reshaped themselves from someone who nobody would have given a second look to someone who is an example, someone who is a leader, someone who is competent and experienced and really given an opportunity that no one else would give them.
And it is something immensely redemptive that we offer these individuals.
This is something that we can give people beyond what anybody else in the conventional space has to offer.
And that is not just something which can be written off as, oh, you did activism and organized.
That is a change in a way of life.
It affects you down to your very core.
It is a spiritual transformation.
And obviously, the eventual goal is to build up the national spirit.
Because, you know, the ultimate goal, the end game is national sovereignty and collective liberty for the American nation.
That's the long term.
And that needs to be realized, actualized, and made manifest in our society, our social structure, and within the representative apparatus of government in some form or another.
That's the ultimate end goal.
Everything in between those two bookends is the story that we will live in our lives, and it will be the story of organizing for our collective self-benefit, of expanding our efforts to reach new people, new spaces, new individuals, which we will then transform in the very same way that we are able to transform men's hearts, and then expanding our methods of utilizing the efforts and, you know, the efforts that we do, expanding our utilizing of the hopes, of our abilities,
and of our constituent activists.
And, you know, we have the immediate space.
We have what we're doing now and we have the far future.
And in between, nobody can rightly judge the specifics of where the years will take us.
If you asked anybody maybe in 2019 for their specific predictions on 2020, I don't think many of us would have been right, even given our ability to examine patterns, as it's said.
But we know that what we can build now is a strong ability to judge our actions, judge their effectiveness, and plan out the ability to grow and create replicatable functions of brotherhoods, of networks, of profitable in the terms of community actions, which can then be taken and done again and again and again in a greater and greater scale and still yield those positive results.
Yes, there is a realm of it which is unknown, but that is because the future itself is unknown.
But what we do know is more valuable in a sense than knowing the specific predictions of the future that we know that we are prepared for it, no matter what.
I think you said a little bit like driving a car.
You know the direction you're going, but there's a lot of different paths and roads and highways to get there.
And you got to, you know, improvise a little bit on the way there.
All right.
Well, that was a persuasive and sincere guy.
Great pitch.
I know who to hire.
What was that, Joe?
If I ever need an HR guy, I know who to hire.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's take it down a notch here and address the two biggest concerns that potential good men out there.
And I got this question on Twitter and from a couple other people.
What are my realistic likelihoods of either getting doxxed and or arrested for involvement or public activism?
That's the biggest concern.
So, you know, certainly, you know, it has been seen in the past, but if you're looking for a realistic, simple answer, I could say maybe one in a thousand, if not fewer.
You know, there are instances in which it is seen and where it has been seen, but I can tell you that, you know, that, you know, in terms of the likelihood, there are instances in which it has happened as a result of people making mistakes because they have had the opportunities and the education and the necessary prerequisites to avoid those such things and then made a conscious mistake and something minor and annoying has happened to them.
There are the other instances in which perhaps, you know, the organization made a mistake, but then it was resolved.
Then that was patched up.
That was remedies.
And then that very remedy was made standard across everybody and it didn't happen again.
Those are the only two instances where that has ever happened.
And I can truthfully and honestly say that being an activist, being organized among our brotherhood is safer than holding these beliefs by yourself.
It is safer than navigating the world, the very hostile world that we now live in alone.
It's so much more valuable to do what we do with the brotherhood, with the ties that we have, and with the access to a nationwide network of people who will exert any labor and commit to any task to ensure your well-being, provided that you would do the same for them.
And that is the only truthful requirement of that service.
You know, the person would have access to the cutting edge of information and methodology necessary to navigate our actions, our promotions, and our organizing in general, and be given a sort of clarity of intent that would make everything else that they might do on their lonesome seem equivalent to blindness.
Our activists can drive from one end of the country to the other and never be very far away from someone who would truthfully stop whatever they were doing and help them at a moment's notice.
We can show interest and support that, again, like I said, common society will not show them.
And we can give someone who maybe feels like their voice is too quiet or that they're never heard.
When they try to speak up in their life, their personal life that nobody listens, we can give that person who has never had a chance before an opportunity to make a very impactful difference.
Someone who we can then include and we can raise their voice to the heights of our full collective of hundreds of men shouting echoing rattling windows of buildings in some of the greatest cities in the country to gather experiences,
to travel the continent, to really change the conception of our cause from something which is a remote struggle of vague ideals to a tangible reality of day-to-day life and a source from which every single moment that you live can be lived with a transfigurative purpose.
That is what we offer.
And in that, with that in mind, the various petty risks of a few negligent online smears, which could be gone in a week, or maybe having a negative conversation with a cop, the one in a thousand chance of that, is even lower if you study, if you are studious in terms of the protocols.
It is so worth it.
It is so much more valuable what you can get, what you can really get if you dedicate yourself than the concerns that people have.
And I know it's very easy to be concerned because the acts of intimidation are the only real deterrence here.
It is something which is intimidating.
It's the cops.
It's the anti-fablogs.
Their whole method is intimidation.
But once you realize that not only can it be avoided, but even in the case where it isn't, the teeth are remarkably dull from those things.
And I believe I'm one of the greatest examples of that.
We hear so many stories of people who fall so far, but in truth, those people aren't doing the kinds of things that we are.
Those people have some sort of marked difference in their methods than we do.
And that's not a statement on whether their differences are better or worse.
It's a statement that they are different.
And I have provable, concrete examples that our activists are safe.
Our activists are better off because of the organization than they are as a result.
And realistically, you need to see past.
You need to see beyond the aspects of intimidation that these people would levy upon us because beyond that is the solution to the crisis that we face.
Damn right, brother.
You're channeling some William Luther Pierce there who said, be a participant in life.
Don't be a bystander.
Don't be a shirker.
And I know, speaking for myself, that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of full house listeners out there who may be getting a little bit of vicarious taste of edge or activism just by listening.
But speaking from personal experience, right now.
Yeah.
Getting involved is good for your soul.
It's good for your health.
And it will help you feel a little bit more confident that on that day you shuffle off this mortal coil, you will not look up at that ceiling fan in a hotel or in a hospital or at hopefully your family members gathered around you at home or on a battlefield and say, I wish that I had done more and I wasn't a little nervous about a dox or a flyering chart.
Well, yeah.
If you're black pilled, I mean, or if you're in any kind of bind in life, as soon as you start to do something about it, you're going to feel better about it.
Absolutely.
All right, Thomas, let's see.
Some brass tacks here.
Your website is patriotfront.us, correct?
Correct.
All right.
Manifesto is up there and you wrote it or was it a collaboration?
I was the primary author, although I had input from many of my closest compatriots.
Awesome.
We got a question.
Is it possible to financially support Patriot Front if someone's not willing to dip their toe into activism yet?
The donations that we take from our activists are primarily effort, conviction, and loyalty.
Anything financial is done as a member.
We are entirely internally funded.
All of the materials that we make, all of our actions are funded entirely by members, by those who do have, you know, as you said, toes in the water and skin in the game.
We do not take outside money or donations because we are an activist organization and we would not tolerate having a system of functioning where there is a great influence coming from outside of the organization to the point where our activists would not be the primary ones making the decisions on their actions.
We don't want anybody who is going out there into the street who is unaccountable for the decisions that they are making.
We don't want our leaders to be separated from the decisions they are making and the decisions that affect our activists.
It's a matter of integrity where you know that the message that you're seeing is coming from the very people who are funding, who are working, who are resourcing it to make it a reality.
And I understand it's a big thing where people want to sometimes take a more inclination, a more route of inclination and getting into these things.
But I will say that getting involved in the organization is obviously something which starts small.
It starts with learning.
It starts with gaining experience and trust.
But we truthfully limit our outside influence because of the safety of our activists, because we want our decisions to be made in the most integral function, because we want to make sure that our leaders and our organizers are immediately aware of the experiences of their activists, which is why everyone in the organization is an activist and everyone who seeks to get involved is out of there too.
And I would urge people that are nervous or scared to join.
You can always like sort of join in, take a look around, have the conversations.
And if you decide it's not for you, if you still feel like it's risky after they have told you what the best practices are, the tactics, the strategies, et cetera, it's not the sharks or the jets where like once you join, the only way out is death or something.
Not with that attitude.
Come on.
I have a couple of friends who are former members because something came up in their lives where they couldn't do activism anymore.
And they know it's an activist organization, so they had to move on.
You know, all of a sudden you have some 100-hour a week job, you know, and they had to go somewhere else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It happens in shots.
Yes.
See how it feels.
Yes.
All of our members are entirely here because they want to be.
And that is something which I think, you know, you mentioned like a contract, right?
That is something which I believe separates us very fundamentally from many other organizations in life.
You know, we're not like the military where you're there out of contract.
We're not like a company where you're there because you want to make money.
And, you know, we're not like many other things in which you're compelled to do so by some threat of harassment or legal impugning.
We are all working because of the pure voluntary willingness of our activists.
And every single person from, you know, the most prominent to the guy who joined yesterday, you know, are all working with each other and all coming to an understanding, working out any differences, coming to any evaluations of planning, of tactical, you know, maneuvering of anything that we're doing because we are all truthfully willing and understanding of each other.
You know, nobody's really getting anything done in the organization that they don't want to do.
And that is a unique kind of, it's a unique atmosphere and a unique dynamic among the membership that is so hard to find in the rest of the world and the rest of civilization as we know it, where everybody's there sacrificing something, even if it's small, sacrificing something because they want to, because they truthfully want to be there.
And seeing people overcome the tiniest of obstacles, which would otherwise drive someone to insanity in a place where they didn't want to be, overcoming those every single day because they have the willingness, the voluntary sacrifice is something I think makes it truly noble in a certain context.
I think you're going to make a good politician one day.
We'll go back to that quickly.
Two more small details for the listeners.
The broad age ranges that you're looking for, you've mentioned it's on the site.
And what if somebody's not 100% European?
Sure.
So the age range is between 18 and 35.
Now, exceptions are sometimes made on the latter end of 35, usually within a reasonable amount of years.
If someone has certain exceptional conduct or exceptional abilities that would warrant an exception of the rule.
And as far as organizing, since we are an American organization and we carry forth a conception of our nation as a natural intra-racial and extra-communal entity, we ask that our members be American, which means either being a descendant of the founding stock of the European colonists, settlers, explorers, pioneers, which came over and founded and forged and made manifest the destiny of our nation,
or those who would otherwise have arrived with a generation and maybe some change as well to properly assimilate, which can be harder nowadays because there's less prevalent and less immediately impactful national heritage to assimilate to.
But that's a very fringe issue that we don't see very often.
But 18 to 35 American heritage and an understanding of our American heritage, not simply as a card of citizenship, although I'm pretty sure all of our activists and all of our members are citizens, but a conception that America is a people.
Whereas people, some peoples and some groups, whether they are the tribal nations of pre-Columbian America or they are the various other extranational ethnic groups which were either brought over or arrived on their own volition through the various decades and centuries, it's a saying that they can be good people, but they can't be our people.
And in membership, we want to represent our nation's interest as closely and as best as we can.
And if we divvied out or had various sections of our membership, even if they were all truly seeking our national interest, it would not be.
Charles African Auxiliary, for example.
Yes, the Ugandan Patriot Front, which actually does exist.
But if we had that sort of division, we would not be able to meet our national interests in the same way.
And we would not be able to truthfully meet our ideals.
So however nice they might be, however well-mannered certain individuals are, we seek to create a space, an organization, a revolutionary vehicle that has an undivided interest in our national cause.
Sounds good.
Did you hear that?
Upper Midwest, I'm reasonably certain, is a dual citizen of Israel.
Well, you'll have to give me the specifics of that.
Yeah.
I will apply it to the fullest extent.
Name him now, JO, on the air.
He knows who he is.
All right, Thomas, we're coming up on an hour.
Did you vote and do you advocate for your members to vote?
Yes.
So personally, I did not vote for Trump, and I do not know any members of Patriot Front who did vote for Trump.
I believe voting is a simple transaction of power.
And in the contemporary landscape and what we see today, you are sacrificing far more value in your moral integrity as a revolutionary than you gain in whatever incidental benefit could be seen from one neoliberal or one neoconservative puppet to another.
There's a common saying among people who maybe have a lesser understanding of topics than they should and are maybe speaking a little bit irresponsibly that there is no political solution.
And it's unfortunately in some contexts right.
There is no political solution to our problems where conventional politics is confirmed.
People take those statements of the same kind and they make them irresponsibly because they either do not define politics or have an incorrect definition of politics.
Conventional politics, the electoral landscape as we know it, is the big sham of donors and lobbyists and the tangled corporate ties.
That entity, as we know it, the United States, that monstrous leviathan, has consumed, digested, and then defecated out any chance for positive change towards sovereign liberty.
But we are instead given an opportunity because that very entity has left absent the roots of sovereignty, which we can now tend to.
We must not do this by the abandonment of all politics, but by the practices of a true and perennial politics, something which is much more timeless.
You know, the government and all the legions of petty tyrants, the police and the clerks and the bureaucrats, they have given us as revolutionaries, as those who seek this revolutionary change, they have given us a great gift because they have forsaken the national interest.
And the only thing that we need to do is work towards meeting it and being what is necessary to rightfully, properly, and inevitably overcome that obstacle.
So that is true politics as a complete refutation of the non-political, violent-seeking, you know, crazies out there and as an indictment on those who believe that we should saddle ourselves to conventional political dialogues and parties and politicians who are snakes and they are not valuable and they lead us astray.
Their promises are as rotten as those who speak them.
So we instead need to find a third position, if you will, practicing true politics in an extra-political space.
We are going outside of the conventional, yet practicing politics all our own, part of the primordial and integral innate nature of patriotism.
And that's where the solution is.
That's where the future is.
And it sure looks good so far.
You're pretty sharp for a guy who says he doesn't read too much there, Thomas.
I only learned about it recently.
That's the so-called non-voting politics that Horace the Avengers speaks about.
There you go.
Yeah.
I'm also irritated that Mr. Producer asleep at the wheel again.
There were a couple of times there I wanted him to break out the black Hebrew Israelites with it.
That's right.
I ran another fee not too long ago, though, right?
I'm just joking.
Yeah, Mr. Producer's laughing in the chat.
All right.
We saved the most important question for last, Thomas.
Then we're going to the break.
And what's with the long hair there, cowboy?
Oh, well, you see, it grows out of my head and I don't get it cut and it keeps getting longer and I'm not really sure.
In truth, in truth, I've actually had long hair for the majority of my either young adult or adult life.
It was only right before our second or our first national demonstration that I got it cut short.
And around then, I had this idea that, oh, in order for people to take me seriously, I got to have short hair and I got to be trimmed and dapper and I got to wear a suit jacket or something like that.
I've long since abandoned any of those notions and now I have my hair long.
All through high school, you'll see in my wonderful docs photos picked very, very much because I look great in them from high school that I have long hair and I will probably keep it at its length at some point in the future.
But the cowboy hat and the long hair and all that stuff, I do dress like that sometimes.
Well, without the uniform, obviously, in my regular life.
But, you know, it's just my personal expression.
I think, you know, there's nothing wrong with having hair a little bit longer if you're on that.
All right.
I think it has a rock star vibe to it, but I also think that Mr. Producer has it right in the comments.
The coach is just jealous.
He can't grow his hair.
Hell no.
I will commit some pucku before I let the hair grow.
Yeah, I am fashion, not 24-7, but yeah, it came to me.
I was like, man, I bet you that would be a pretty good troll if the Patriot Front guy is like gave Thomas appropriate haircut.
You know, if they caught him napping one day, but I don't think that would be Patriot Front members if they were to be.
All right.
And we got it out there.
All right, Thomas, hell of a job.
Thank you so much for coming on.
You want to play too?
Want to come on for a little bit for the second hour?
Sure thing.
All right.
That's awesome.
Well, hey, I was also thinking about this and listening to you tonight.
If either of my sons one day decided to go for Patriot Front and they made the cut, I would be proud as hell.
So that's a testament to you.
That's a testament to all your guys out there putting in the effort and trying and in many ways succeeding to turn this thing around.
So thank you for that.
It's deeply appreciated.
Yep.
I am sad that Smasher is not on tonight.
However, it's not for any bad reason.
It's for a good reason.
We were hanging out the other night and he put on this jam, which kind of reminded me a little bit of music that could be the backing to one of your epic Patriot Front propaganda, righteous, virtuous propaganda videos sometime.
So regardless, we're going to take a break, go fill our drinks.
Thomas is going to come back.
We're going to school him a little bit as the dads to this young whippersnapper.
This is Keys to Gramercy Park by Dead Sea.
Don't go anywhere.
We got tons more.
much for the second hour.
Thoughts on the left, the actions on the right.
As you know, the it wasn't meant to be starved.
Face white, revenge of the hit times.
When you were inside and you thought to take a walk in the park, think someone's about to be carved.
I got the key, key to grab my super heart Oh, where is it?
Safe to be afraid of the dark.
Maybe there we can fall.
I might, might miss breaking it.
So where are we now?
This is a Grammys Park.
I got the key to Grammar City Park.
Safe to be afraid of the dark.
Oh, maybe there we can.
But I might miss bringing into the bars.
Another look at the other place.
Stay with us.
Christine and touches you.
Out of the palace and your way.
Something that could mean so much to you.
I saved it in the golden cage.
The medium apps as yet they're still safe.
To simply pass all us from the grave.
And now I've got the key to Grammarcy Park.
But I might miss bringing into the bars.
Now I've got the key to Grammarcy Park.
And I'm away all alone, I've been in the dark.
And now I've got the key to Grammar City Park.
Face white, revenge of the hits.
And welcome back to Full House episode 71, second half.
Little easy listening for the kids there for the break music.
Huge thanks, of course, to Thomas and Patriot Front.
Really wonderful job in the first half there, buddy.
Grateful to have you on for the second half, and especially grateful and thankful for you guys putting your asses on the line almost every day, it seems.
Of course.
You bet.
More important than your activism there, sir, is our absolute bumper crop of new white life that came to us.
Just we don't have any backup.
This isn't stuff that we missed.
This is announcements that we got by email, DM, etc.
Just since the last show, we did the Pierce narration.
If you've missed that last week, gotta say, whoever recorded that, hell of a job bringing William Pierce back to life when we were on Thanksgiving break.
And it's good to be back in the saddle.
But without further ado, this week and in no particular order, congratulations to RB, to Trey from Dixie, to Ripius Maximus, and to R. Hammer, and your wives or fiancés or girlfriends.
Those guys have a mixture of firstborns, second, thirds, pregnancies, et cetera.
Also, to Frog of War.
Frog hit me up the other day and he said, hey, Coach, I never got my announcement.
I think I may have congratulated him because it was such a big one.
He welcomed his seventh child to the world and was also, yeah, and he made sure to say, Coach, I'm tied with Sam.
He was very excited about that.
I want all listeners to surpass me.
That's what I want.
Yep.
And bless all those ladies out there who are blessed.
Yeah.
And it's not just those that came my way.
We got a couple more.
So Sam, J.O. Jave.
Sam.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll jump in there.
We had several local people, and I want to give a great acknowledgement to Pablo Blanco.
Some of the listeners will know him.
Yeah, a great brother and his lovely wife welcomed a son into the world.
And that's to, in addition to their family that they already had.
So great work.
That was a big boy.
Yes, yes.
And it was a tough road for the lovely wife there, but she made it through.
And God bless them.
We love them so much.
Also, Rob Pierce welcomed another daughter into the world and his lovely wife doing great work there.
Wonderful young people, great work that they're doing.
And thank you for those people.
They gave permission to me to give those wonderful announcements.
And we had a young fella who was planning to get married and he pulled the trigger a little early.
And there's some white life on the way.
God bless them.
They're getting married, though.
It's coming up.
And good for them.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, and real quick, JO, I won't say any details about this guy or his sock because I don't know if it's cleared, but know a great guy who recently proposed to his longtime girlfriend and he blended politics with the proposal.
So he was writing like how it went.
And I was like, oh boy, I don't know how this is going to go.
But apparently it worked.
So hats off to you, buddy.
Congratulations.
You know who you are.
Slick operator there.
Yeah, bold move there, Cotton.
I'm glad it worked out.
I had forgotten when you were talking about donations earlier.
I received a donation from a Mr. Ron Uns in the amount of 80 smackaroos.
Amazing.
He was grateful for the piece we published on Full-House.com that basically called his immigration stance suicidal and insane.
Imagine that.
Just the 80s Smackaroos meme has been singing.
I just, does that come from anything or is it just one of those off the wall?
I don't know if it's in your chat.
There's a picture of Ron Uns.
It's $80.
People just kept reposting it like a ruse real quick.
Yeah.
Exhibition of wealth is $80.
While we're on the subject of birth announcements, I'm not sure if it's too late, but as I just remembered that during our Pittsburgh demonstration, while we were at the drilling and lodging camp, one of our activists did make a similar announcement to all of the other people present there that he found out his wife was pregnant.
So that was something that I thought might be interesting and relevant to share.
It's certainly a very uplifting thing.
I can see why y'all do it.
Good job.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
If you're a single guy there, if you're married and you don't have kids, adding that little hen or baby under your wing to mix metaphors there really you think that you know how it would feel or whatever, but that you have to do it to feel it and live it.
And it changes you extremely for the better and also makes you more concerned.
And I have to admit, you know, I mentioned cutting down the Christmas tree.
We actually, we went out, I got a bow saw.
I was like, I don't have a bow saw.
I need that in my garage and told the kids we're going to cut down our own Christmas tree this year.
They were their enthusiasm was slightly less than I would have preferred.
But we went out and found this.
I think it's a spruce.
It's a little, it's a little prickly.
Junior looked at it and said, Dad, I don't know why you are so enthusiastic about this tree.
Like very dead man.
And I was like, shut up, Junior.
No, no, no.
You know, he's got a very discerning eye.
So we did that.
And we did that yesterday and we decorated the tree tonight.
We got the colored lights.
We always do colored lights on the tree and white lights outside the house, even before I was a pro-white advocate decorated the tree.
And it's funny, the kids just seeing the ornaments and remembering it from years past.
Or, oh, grandma gave me this one.
Or look, look, dad, there's one that you made in preschool.
My mom was absolutely wonderful about that.
I can still see my chub.
I was a little chubby in preschool, a chubby visage on the tree from where I'm sitting here.
But yeah, heartwarming stuff.
But having kids and having those heartwarming moments, for me, at least personally, I still have the dark shadow lingering a little bit in the back of my mind that as safe and healthy and joyous as this moment is, I cannot be truly content to live in that moment.
Now, I'm not saying that's the way you should be.
We should all block out the world to a certain extent in those special times, but I can't do it.
I'm always grinding my teeth at least a little bit.
Well, just remember, Coach, it's been worse in times gone by.
I know, right?
You know, so we got it good now.
There's a million things I could tell you about why it's better now.
Yep.
Yeah.
Be grateful for what you got and not always worrying about that stuff.
Very true.
But guys, get in the dad game, man.
That's yeah.
Yeah.
And listen, if you're listening to this, I should have mentioned this in the first half, but we're probably going to have a lot more listens on this one from not just Patriot Front guys, but people who know your good work and are interested about it and hearing more from Mystery Man Thomas.
So our ethos here is: yes, be good, responsible white men, find good, virtuous women.
They don't have to be perfect or have trad wife from birth to the moment that you met them.
Obviously, that helps a little bit, but we encourage men to get in the game, not just to add to our ranks, but because it makes us better men.
And, you know, if you, if you don't have kids, are just fun.
Working, working with people really helps you get an understanding that you don't need to find people that are perfect, but you do need to find people who are okay with striving for perfection.
That's right.
There's a lot of great women out there for sure.
Listener, Mel Gibson, or excuse me, his sock is iHeart Mel Gibson sent us the nicest note this week.
Get down to some serious dad content and advice, especially for younger guys.
iHeart Mel Gibson says, hi guys, been listening since show number one and have always wanted to reach out, but never thought I had something worth sending your way.
Well, that changed this week when my wife let me know that kid number three is on the way.
My IRL friends have all moved away.
So you guys have been my surrogate buddies for the better part of two years now.
And I feel like I owe it to you to share the good news.
Mel, right back at you, buddy.
You don't have to.
Yeah.
We'll get you some IRL buddies.
Yep.
I don't think I don't know if I responded to him and asked him if he wanted to, but I'm happy to do it.
Actually, yeah, he did.
So it's a question.
I will plug Manor Bund right here too.
They are a great group of guys.
It depends, you know, for younger guys looking to get in the activism game, Patriot Front is your Huckleberry.
And if you're a little longer in the tooth and maybe a little bit more reserved or risk averse, Manor Bund is an outstanding option as well, as well as your pool parties located throughout the country that are a little more informal, a little more casual.
So, you know, there's nothing wrong with dipping your toe in there first, see how it goes, see if you like the guys and take it from there.
Feel free to drop us a line.
Your secret safe with me.
And then we have a trusted network of people around the country who can just have an anonymous call with you should you want to go that route.
And yes, you should.
All right.
Mel Gibson also had a question, but we're going to table it for a future show because it's a good one.
But we just want to get down to something that JO proposed in the chat this week.
And it's an excellent one.
And I'm just going to let you pose it as you see fit, buddy.
Yeah, I had a conversation with a guy, a young guy in our thing, and I was a little bit disappointed by it because he started doing this very normy take.
And I'm sure it's a take that I had when I was younger of, you know, yeah, I'm going to settle down and have a family eventually, but like I just need to kind of like make my own mistakes, bro.
I need to do things my own way and figure it out.
And that's really frustrating to hear, especially from someone in our thing, when all of this information is available to you, when all of these people's experience are available to you.
And I might be twice your age, but that doesn't mean I'm talking down to you.
And it was kind of kismet that, you know, Thomas happened to come on this week because he's so young and has his act together so well.
I remember rolling around with my mom at one point, and we were having a conversation about something, and things kind of go quiet.
And at one point, she just looks at me kind of apropos of nothing and says, listen, I'm not telling you that you need to listen to me and all things, but if I can give you a piece of advice, it's to take advice.
Take advice from people who know what they're doing.
Take advice from experts.
Don't try and figure the world out on your own.
And I don't know how well I listened to her, but I am secondarily frustrated by people who point to my own situation and say, oh, well, you didn't get it together till later on, until you were in your 30s.
Yeah, it's the biggest regret of my life.
You know, If I could be who I am now 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I'd be much better situated.
And I guess my message is just don't waste time.
You don't need to.
You have all the information.
Anything else is just a lie.
It's just an excuse to go, I don't know, be a degenerate or be lazy or waste time on something of no value.
Well, so many of us would say the old saying, we would repeat the old saying, too soon old, too late smart.
Listen to that.
If you're young, listen to what we're saying.
Learn from our experiences, our hardship, our mistakes, and our successes.
Or you could be like me and never make any mistakes in your life.
No, no, no.
Yeah, we did an entire show, and I can't remember the damn episode title off the top of my head, but I'll put it in the show notes where we did go through a litany of advice for younger guys.
Don't make the mistakes that we did.
But there are two things that I regret most in life.
This is a big reveal on Full House here.
It's very special.
The first is the time that I got really drunk in my early 20s and lost my wallet.
That still bothers me to this day.
That's actually true.
I'm so, I don't lose things.
I'm not brilliant.
Here set of skills, but I'm responsible.
Damn it.
I don't know.
Where that?
Did somebody get it?
Yeah, it's out there in the world somewhere.
Someone has it.
Yeah.
Some negroes walking around.
And yeah, the second, the second one is, I'm just going to echo JO.
And I don't actually beat myself up about it because we had our first when we were 30.
We could have started earlier for sure.
We got married at 25, had our first at 30.
I would have shaved one or two or maybe three years off of that late 20s self-indulgence, Netflix and chill, have drinks, go out to restaurants, drop $100 here, there on basically self-indulgence.
I don't regret the travel, but the travel is great.
See the world, experience cultures, et cetera.
But travel experiences pale in comparison to the beauty and wonder and hard work and tears and joys of having your own little mini-mis, you and your wife, you know, under your wing every day.
It's so much work.
Mel Gibson's question was, hey, I'm going from two to three.
Is it tough?
Is it bad?
And speaking personally, it was very tough.
One, no problem looking back on it.
Two, daughter can do no wrong.
Piece of cake.
Three was rough.
It depends on the kid, of course.
Sam said, yeah, coach.
Well, see, that's because you're like keeping everything going and everything's like under control and all that.
Once you get to the point where everything's out of control, then it doesn't matter how many you have.
Family anarchy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Three, four, five, six, seven, eight doesn't even matter.
It don't matter.
Thomas, how about how about yourself?
We'll, we'll bring you back, bring you back here, buddy.
I don't know if, yeah, we're not looking to embarrass you and ask, you know, your big regrets at your still young age.
But yeah, go ahead.
So what are some of my biggest regrets in life?
Yeah, sure.
Sure, sure.
You know, I would say, obviously, one of the larger, it's a complicated subject because at the same time, I realized that I had to make a lot of the mistakes that I did early on in my life as an activist in order to come to the conclusions that I needed to come to in order to be where I am today.
So it's kind of a, you know, how you choose to regret something is really important.
You know, in terms of, you know, my life, it's been very interesting because I started getting into the political context at 16.
And by the time I graduated high school, I was already, you know, way into it.
So, you know, I. If that's appropriate to ask.
I am 22 years old as of October 20th, which is my birthday.
So everybody knows now.
My birthday.
I have five children older than you.
That's surprising.
Just to put in perspective.
Hey, I feel old myself sometimes, but I'm sure that would not be given any patience here.
Some of my bigger regrets, you know, obviously, I think, you know, I spent a lot of time spinning my wheels, you know, and in 2016 and 2017, I wish I got started sooner, even though I probably got started about as soon as anybody could expect.
And, you know, just making minor mistakes along, you know, along the years of not thinking of things sooner.
But I've had a very unconventional life with stuff that I've been doing.
But one of the bigger mistakes I think would make would not giving myself into being fully, you know, sort of now I'm employed by the organization in a kind of a roundabout way, not doing that sooner, not restructuring my life in a way where I could really give more of my time.
Because I spent so much time doing the nine to five on a few different jobs that I obviously can't go into, but doing that while I was trying to balance it.
And I feel like I missed a lot of opportunities, even though I was able to go out to a lot of things.
But I feel like that, in addition to spinning my wheels for a lot of a long time and getting involved in a few spaces that didn't end up giving me anything more than a lesson, I would say those are some of my regrets.
But I live happily knowing that I regret them in a positive sense and that I was able to do that and then learn from it because having a regret also means that you recognize it and can move beyond it, which is a very healthy thing for someone to do.
Well, coming into this, I kind of have to assume, too, that you had a, I'll say, brain trust of older guys because anyone that you were consulting with was almost necessarily older than you when you started this organization.
Yes, absolutely.
And, you know, that's a big reason why we had a lot of stuff figured out from the start.
You know, you made the comments about making your own mistakes.
And I feel like that was kind of an interesting context a lot of people were put in after the summer of 2017, because in the modern context, it had been so long since there was an organization or a series of organizations or what someone could rightfully call a big movement that had done it, you know, done things in a similar way that there wasn't really a whole lot of, you know, there was only so much that historical context could give you in terms of how to interact with the current space.
And it really, you know, took a little bit of making your own mistakes, but I believe at that point, we've moved on the past three years in the organization.
We've made all the mistakes we needed to make to get to the point where we are now.
And we know enough now to predict future mistakes.
And I think especially now where a lot of people are talking about doing one thing or doing another in terms of organizing, maybe not in terms of family planning, because I'm no font of knowledge on that.
But in terms of organizing, I feel like the book's been written now.
There are examples to point to.
There are people who are out there doing the right thing.
And you need to really learn about what people are doing before you decide to go and make some mistakes just for the sake of it.
I like that.
Listen, guys, he's 22.
Come on.
Yeah.
I'm going to have a few gray hairs here probably coming next week at this rate.
But we'll see where we go.
Thomas, do you have siblings?
Yes.
I have a few siblings.
I have a few sisters.
Obviously not involved with them in any political sense, but they're nice.
I speak to them somewhat regularly.
I did a Thanksgiving with my, with my parents, just this past and it was interesting.
Some of y'all were talking about the um you know doing thanksgiving or having, you know, the brotherhood, community-based groups and stuff like that.
But uh, it's a little bit of a misconception sometimes.
Sometimes people think that patriot front uh is all work and no play, as it were.
You know that we don't have time to stop and you know, hang out with the guys and you know, I think you know it's it's it's a little bit, you know, a little bit, you know, mistaken sometimes, because I remember uh on, it wasn't on thanksgiving, I believe it was the weekend.
The following weekend we had um, something like over a dozen people over at the house um, doing all sorts of.
We had several turkeys and ribs and all sorts of fancy dishes and we had a great time.
We went around the table, we had everybody say what they were thankful for and right there oh, we had ribs for thanksgiving, turkey too um, but it was great and you know we, we had a full, wonderful thing and it's just those moments um, really moments like that really put it all into context and make it all worth it.
And you know lots of guys there, you know, had families of their own and they had, you know, things like that, and they had done thanksgiving, you know formally, with their families, but then they came back to it and they had, you know, sort of an adopted family of activists and brothers, and I think that's, those are the type of experiences where you really can reflect and really puts everything else into context.
So and that happens a lot, you know, there are a lot of opportunities like that and it really, you know, it's valuable in my opinion.
Well, you know, we we were speaking about mistakes and regrets, and mr producer makes mistakes every single day on this show that I I regret having, I regret having him involved.
No, but in all seriousness he uh, mr producer, is awesome.
He's one of the most, he's seriously one of the smartest and most uh dedicated, committed church best family guys that I know and i'm not blowing an ounce or a puff of smoke here but uh, if you want to weigh in a little bit buddy, you know it's up to you yeah, yeah.
So this is this is definitely a subject that I think about a lot, and I think about it from uh, both perspectives, the perspective of somebody who would think that they need to say oh, I need to make my own mistakes, because that's, that's, honestly a cope, and also somebody who um, who would try to get somebody to not make their mistakes.
As a father, you know, I I often think like, what am I going to do?
Am I going to allow my kids to make the same mistakes as me?
But a lot of times like yeah, you have to make mistakes, but the idea that you should just ignore the things that are being told to you, especially by people who have made those mistakes, is silly right it's, it's something that that I don't know, it's just.
It just seems like a total cope.
Thought process of a man, right.
The thought process of a boy, the other.
Don't go into the world with that attitude and tell me that you're a man, right?
The other issue, both ways.
The other issue is that if you think, if you look at somebody else and say, well, you made these mistakes and you turned out fine and you totally disregard the abilities of that person.
See, I've made, I've done a lot of dumb things, but I actually intended to do all those dumb things.
And luckily for me, luckily for me, I was just good enough to get through them without having it permanently screw up my life.
And I got very close to getting.
getting past a point in no return, even for myself, and I definitely do not suggest somebody who may, like you can't, say like.
I've known people who are much smarter than me, much better than me at other things, and I would not assume that I could do something because they were able to do it and get away with it um, and I think that's a mistake that people make, and especially somebody who's going to sit there and say well uh, you did all this stuff and you turned out fine, and that's just that's silly.
I only turned out as fine, as I tell you, on podcasts.
That's right Yeah, do as we say, not as we did.
When it comes to free advice, you know, people say, you know, it's cheaper or whatever, but men in particular are passionate for a reason about their mistakes because aside from our, you know, we may put up a gruff demeanor or that all this stuff is just water on a pane of glass.
We don't care about it.
It's in the past.
I mean, the mistakes that we made, for many, if not most of us, wear on us or, you know, we think about it, if not every day, a lot of the time.
So absolutely listen to us.
Even if a guy's a knucklehead, you can find a kernel of truth there and wisdom to make use of.
The biggest mistake I made in my life was being attracted to shitty women.
Okay.
Now, I could say.
Yeah.
Not understanding women is, I think, something we would all say is a valuable lesson to learn early.
Yeah.
And it's something that you, it's very difficult to learn because your bros aren't going to teach that to you.
Your father may not see it or understand how to teach it to you.
You know what I mean?
Like you, every guy holds his mother in totally, total separate esteem and a different light than they see every other woman in the world.
And therefore, they never think, well, oh, I'm just fine.
I mean, I've had friends that said, oh, I'm going to look for somebody who's like my mom.
But even just saying that, having that come out of my own mouth sounds weird.
You know what I mean?
So I think, I think, so your father has a difficult situation to try to guide you to find the right woman.
Your bros aren't going to help you at all.
The media.
I'll help you.
Yeah.
Well, I think in another age, there was wisdom that was passed down from man to man or father to son or whatever.
It still is in certain cultures.
It's sort of a like a Protestant thing to not do it right because, like, I don't know how many meds you have in your life, but like an Italian or Spanish father is going to give his son the straight dope.
This whole sort of meme of like, oh, just be yourself and find your way.
And like, bro.
An Italian or Spanish mother will make sure that her son doesn't end up with the wrong woman as well.
Right.
And I will say that, yes, there were people in the past, there were ways in the past and the culture in the past allowed for men and women to make the right choice.
And I think we need to go back to this idea of guiding our children.
Like I have daughters, right?
I am actively involved in the relationships that my so I have a teenage daughter.
I'm actively involved in the relationships that she has with her boyfriend, right?
We have vetted this kid thoroughly, right?
We know his parents.
When they get together, it's an agreement between the parents, us, right?
And they're involved and we're involved.
It's not like dumb, super strict meme of like, oh, when he comes around, I polish my gun.
No.
It's not this corny thing.
You know, you want to like the kid, not just have an adversarial relationship.
Not at all.
Yeah.
And I want him to like me too.
And he knows that we like him, but he also knows that our daughter is sacred to us.
That if anything happens, like we picked him for a reason.
And if anything happens to our daughter that we don't approve of or we don't like, he's going to suffer consequences for it.
And his parents, his parents know it as well.
So on that note, real quick, the number of people who are involved in this thing now who are good and smart and have big families and are fearless is it's so big compared to five years ago.
I won't speak for that.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I mean, literally every state in the country, too many chats to deal with, but about the kids and the dating and stuff.
Like, I look at all three of my kids as gems, of course, as every parent does.
And our own people look at their kids as gems.
And at this point, you know, our kids are young.
They're not dating yet, but it's a fun game.
It's not a game.
It's serious of thinking, ah, he might be good for her.
You know, we're not going to force it.
It's so much more real to me when two of our guys' kids married each other.
Look, I didn't know that.
Yeah, this is like a year and a half ago now.
In an early episode, Jo said, I think it was one of the first ones I produced.
JO said, I want my kids to date your kids.
And it's stuck with me ever since then.
Yeah.
Well, in a better age, I mean, who better to look out for you and to help you marry somebody than your parents?
You know, somebody who knows you from your, assuming you have good parents and they know you from the time you were born, who is better to guide you to a mate?
And the thing of like a ladies' man who's good to who knows how to seduce women, that's not necessarily a good husband trait.
No, it's not at all.
I mean, it's to my dying breath.
All of the like game and seduction stuff that's good for starting conversations.
That's right.
Those tech tactics and techniques that they teach.
It gets you in there.
You're not trying to close the deal with as many women as you can.
But if you don't know how to start a conversation, those sorts of outlets can help you with that.
Yeah.
Look, here's what I don't mean to derail.
Guys obviously don't want a big body count on their future mate.
Do women care as much about men being a Lothario before they met them?
Good women do.
Right.
I think men and women do see it the same way.
I know we're absolutely convinced that men and women are radically different when it comes to this stuff.
And I just don't think it's so.
I think that a lot of women just keep it to themselves a lot better than men do.
They share it with their friends, but they don't go around acting like it's something they have to wear on their sleeve everywhere.
But yeah, I mean, what woman would prefer that their man was sleeping with everybody?
Now, I get like no woman probably is attracted to a man who does a virgin.
Or yeah, it just proves not later on in years, let's be honest.
Yeah, maybe later on in years.
But only because it kind of is an indicator that something is wrong there.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So one other piece of advice I wanted to give, which we've touched on here or there, and Thomas may weigh in on this if he wants to, not setting him up, is not to live online and to try to break yourselves, particularly if you're active on Twitter or poll or Facebook or whatever it might be.
That is not real life.
I have made that mistake.
I struggle with it on a daily basis.
Twitter is not real life.
You may think that you're making a big difference in propaganda.
Some of you are, to be sure.
A lot of you, though, maybe most of you are wasting your time and that hamster wheel is spinning of outrage of the day, seek dopamine hits from retweets, this sick burn, this or that.
As I'm getting older, I think that it matters less and less.
And the stuff in meat space matters more and more.
So that's a serious regret that I have is spending as much time online as I have, even as a almost 40-year-old late millennial.
Thomas, you are, well, you don't have to give the game away.
I don't think you're on social media, but Patriot Front uses social media masterfully.
How do you square that circle?
So personally, I have no personal Twitter accounts in spite of whatever articles you might read or accounts you might see.
There were a few impersonators, but I think they're gone now.
Maybe my comments tonight will cause them to start up again, but who cares?
So, personally, I interact with social media, you know, more as a, you know, several instances removed, but the organization uses social media in a large context, and we do encourage many of our members to help with promotion.
But it is, as you said, a delicate balance because there's a lot of these online communities, especially the inside, the private, the chat rooms, all these other, you know, group chat, you know, things where it always ends up becoming a very much degenerative process of time-sucking, you know, potential ruining, habitual, extremely online behavior.
And it is a balance of keeping much of the social media usage to a purpose.
Like I am on Twitter or I am on, you know, I'm posting this video.
I'm doing this for a specific purpose.
I have a goal in mind.
And also not freaking out over the likes or the retweets or the views or this stuff because you know that you did a great job.
And we do have a different metric for how we measure our actions and their success and how we promote them because we can see that through the people that join, the people that get involved, the people that come into the interview rooms and they said they joined because of X, Y, or Z.
And we might know that a video might get X amount of views less than another one, but we also know at the same time that more people got involved because of one than the other, because it's really a matter of a more comprehensive measuring.
So we get that dopamine from new guys, new experiences, new additions to our pool of skills and such than necessarily that.
And there are a lot of restrictions on security when it comes to social media that you need to have in mind.
And because that is the case, anyone who tells you that they're a member of Patriot Front on the internet is probably trying to trick you into something.
Or anybody who says, oh, we can join this Twitter link.
Can we be perfectly clear here that anyone claiming to be Thomas Rousseau recruiting for Patriot Front on social media is a liar, a honeytrap, bad actor.
Except for him right here.
And we can also say that anyone claiming to be JO De La Ray on social media is actually a JO, especially on Telegram.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
Absolutely.
No, I absolutely agree.
It's good that you said that.
Yeah.
All right, guys.
People have tried to impersonate you, and I just wouldn't want to see anyone get hemmed up on that.
No, it's very annoying.
We did our best to call it out.
It is December 4th as we are going to tape.
And of course, Christmas and Santa Claus are looming.
But more importantly than that, is all of our married or engaged or dating guys sweating bullets over what the hell to get their woman.
And we just happened to get a piece of fairly condensed advice here from a woman who I know is married and has children.
And I'm going to try to rattle it off here as quickly as possible.
She can be a little verbose at times, but here goes.
Number one, remember that it's not for you, example, buying a gift certificate to go indulge in something simultaneously.
Number two, get what they want, even if it's not to your taste.
If it's shoes that you find ridiculous or a box of 10,000 plastic bags, that would be in my category there.
By the way, plastic bags are so yesterday.
My new obsession is not throwing out glass jars.
When we get like big jars, I'm like, I could use that for canon one day anyway.
My grandma was like that.
My wife's like, what's with the jars, coach?
All right.
Listen, number three, listen to them and try to retain their offhand comments.
This one's important.
God knows how many offhand comments I have missed because I wasn't listening carefully, or I was just grub coach and didn't pay attention.
Like, man, I wish I had one of those, or my hands are always cold in these gloves.
They're so big.
In particular, note when they say they would love a particular thing, but it's too expensive, especially if she's been looking at that item for a while.
Number four, note when they're using something and hate it, or if something they use is in disrepair, or if they're running out of something, such as I can never get this alarm clock to work, or all these cords are driving me crazy.
All right.
Number five, haven't been paying attention, check their Amazon or eBay wish list browsing histories.
Not sure about this one.
That might involve getting on their phone or their laptop.
But regardless, if you share a device, you might be able to see what she's been browsing for.
Number six, there's only seven here.
Gift certificates generally suck.
The recipient is beholden to the price point on it or must use it at a certain retailer or have to schedule an appointment.
Also comes across as a lazy effort.
And number seven, try to avoid the free stuff unless it's extraordinary, like taking the kids away for a specific weekend and having arranged for her to have her best friend, best friends visit.
They really are looking for, this is me paraphrasing, they are looking for you to go out and get something that is useful to their life.
Don't take it from me.
I am terrible about gifts, always has been, whether it's because I'm selfish, unthoughtful, or the whole thing just makes me break out in hives.
I wish that we could damn gift giving to hell.
No, I'm kidding.
But I do want to give credit.
That was my wife who gave all that advice on gift giving.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I need to take more of it to heart.
Straight up truth.
A large underwear Christmas.
That was this time last year.
I admitted on the show.
I got larges instead of mediums.
And fortunately, she was a good sport about it.
Fortunately, you're not divorced.
You got to get the fundies, coach.
Yeah, I know.
Four-legged underwear.
No, see, I was having a good time on the show, and now I'm already, I can feel my brow break out and sweat.
What the hell?
What the hell am I going to get?
She's going to listen.
She's going to be like, dumbass.
I just gave you like seven points.
Oh, heaven help me.
All right.
I was looking at the email.
Let's see.
All right.
We're getting close.
So let us not wait any longer.
Thomas, we're going to do this segment.
I know that you listened to the show a couple of times in the early days, but we have a friend who submits this bit called Navigating the Collapse.
And it's a blend of practical advice for survival situations or just day-to-day living, coupled with an epic excerpt from great white men from history.
So if that was a good enough tea up, Mr. Producer, let it rip.
Welcome to Navigating the Collapse with your host, Nathaniel Scott.
No word of advice this week.
I hope you enjoyed the time with your families and could detach from the struggle and rest a bit.
Instead, here are the words of Patrick Henry, American founding father and passionate patriot.
Henry famously argued against ratifying the Constitution by trying to explain to Southerners that the federal government would, and I quote, free your niggers.
Truly, prophetic insights into the future of the American nation.
Here is a section of his speech before the 1775 Virginia Convention.
No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as the abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the house.
But different men often see the same subject in different lights, and therefore I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen, if, entertaining as I do, opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve.
This is no time for ceremony.
The question before the house is one of awful moment to this country.
For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than the question of freedom or slavery.
And in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate.
It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country.
Should I keep back my opinions at such a time through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country and an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication?
What terms shall we find which have not already been exhausted?
Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer.
Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on.
We have petitioned, we have remonstrated, we have supplicated, we have prostrated ourselves before the throne and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and parliament.
Our petitions have been slighted.
Our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult.
Our supplications have been disregarded, and we have been spurned with contempt from the foot of the throne.
In vain, after all these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation.
There is no longer any room for hope.
If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight.
I repeat it, sir, we must fight.
An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us.
They tell us, sir, that we are weak, unable to cope with so formidable an adversary.
But when shall we be stronger?
Will it be the next week or the next year?
Will it be when we are totally disarmed and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house?
Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction?
Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope until our enemies have us bound hand in foot?
Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature has placed in our power.
Three millions of people armed in the holy cause of liberty and in such a country as that which we possess are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.
Besides, we shall not fight our battles alone.
There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.
The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone.
It is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
Besides, sir, we have no election.
If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest.
There is no retreat but in submission and slavery.
Our chains are forged.
Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston.
The war is inevitable, and let it come.
I repeat, sir, let it come.
It is vain, sir, to extenuate the matter.
Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace, but there is no peace.
The war is actually begun.
The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms.
Our brethren are already in the field.
Why stand we here idle?
What is it that gentlemen wish?
What would they have?
If life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery, forbid it, Almighty God!
I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.
Hell yeah.
The first two words that always come to mind when Nat Scott delivers one of these things.
Yeah, great.
And yeah, usually we have, usually he goes to the European font, but this week it's almost like we know what we're doing and we went back to the American Revolution.
Thomas, are you at it?
Are you at it?
I liked that.
That was very good.
I like that very much.
Amen.
Yeah, good, good hearty reminder.
I can be jaded and sometimes sink back to the, oh, the American Revolution was a temper tantrum, as the Brits call it.
But when you go back to the originals and those guys, you got to salute.
There are a lot of really important comparisons between a small impinged minority and a great imperialistic government, which does not give them suitable representation, having laws made on their behalf without their ability to state otherwise, which change their lifestyle and prevent them from doing many of the things that they may have previously become accustomed to.
There are some very big similarities which can be drawn.
Do you have a founding father or two that you're particularly fond of?
You strike me as more of a Jeffersonian than a Federalist for sure, but just curious.
That's interesting.
I would consider myself a little bit more interested in the Federalist dialogue.
I believe much of that was correct.
But at the same time, I understand the anti-Federalist arguments.
And I think there's many things that can be said about a reconciliation of the two, but that's obviously not necessarily what happened.
I have an immense respect for Thomas Jefferson.
I think he is definitely up there in my list of favorites.
I think obviously everybody's answer is Washington, but I have a unique perspective of the nation's founding as continuing longer than most people might expect.
I think America wasn't truly founded as a nation until Manifest Destiny reached the shores of the Pacific.
So you could even include people like Jackson in there as almost a founder in a similar context as others.
I could name any of the figures that are quoted in the manifesto as being among my favorite figures from American history.
And that's obviously no coincidence.
I was a big part of choosing them.
But I think there's a very good interest in the Federalist dialogue of having a unified government because many of the arguments made in that context were that there should be a single central government because we are a single people.
So we must be represented by a singular entity, at least at times.
And, you know, there are very poignant arguments to the contrary where a federal government might become exactly what it is today.
But at the same time, if the alternative were perhaps to be tried, who's to say that, you know, the Confederation could not have been tried and worked or not worked many times over in the past centuries.
So it's a complicated thing.
But as always, we need to view our own history through a very much a responsible lens and realize that we need to learn everything we can and then implement it moving forward by taking the best and the most virtuous and forging it together into a unique synthesis of ideals of a national origin in exclusivity,
but not of a single person period or group, but more of a comprehensive evaluation of everything that our nation has done right throughout the centuries, even to the more recent stuff.
And then that's where you get real revolutionary potential.
Because the revolution as it happened was not was not done by people who were focused on retreading the steps of those in the past.
And a lot of the founders made references to the other republics of ancient Rome or Greece or even some of the republics of Europe at the time.
I think Denmark is maybe one of them.
But at the same time, they made references, but they never were afraid of being original in that context.
And I feel like that's a lesson that we could learn for sure.
Sure thing.
Well put.
Big thanks to Nathaniel Scott for putting that together.
And we are coming up.
We're coming up on two hours.
A question that I wanted to ask Thomas, but I'm just going to tease it maybe for an appearance down the road is for your opinion on national socialism, the Third Reich, Nazi iconography.
But we're just going to tease that one and leave it in the ether for the next time.
So with that, let's bring this puppy home to close and keep this ship as tight as Thomas Run's Patriot Front.
Thomas, thanks so much for coming on, buddy.
Did a great job.
Thanks for having me.
It's been amazing.
Plug patriotfront.us.
Anything else?
Last words?
Yes, absolutely.
So PatriotFront.us is the website.
If you are looking for more video content or our activism on a daily basis, you can scroll to the bottom of PatriotFront.us and there's a series of icons there.
It's easy to miss, but down there, there's the Telegram icon, which has our daily activism.
Just to the videos and the big articles on the website, that's not all we do.
We do stuff dozens of instances every single day.
That's published on Telegram.
It's published on Gab most of the time when Gab is being cooperative.
And there's always a few places where it's published on Twitter.
Usually, if you want to find our stuff on Twitter, there's not a single account.
So you've got to search with the Patriot Front hashtag and you'll see all the necessary stuff come up there.
And we keep it up on a variety of Twitter accounts all the time.
So that's how you find it there.
There's a lot of people that help us out with that.
And our videos are obviously on BitChute, and they're going to be on a few other places in case there's any issues with people watching them on BitChute.
They're also on Telegram.
There's a Patriot Front videos channel on Telegram, which has all of our videos condensed.
Lots of great stuff.
And again, if you are interested, there's an application page on the website.
And if you have further questions, that may be answered.
I've done a few other podcast appearances, although I feel like I've covered almost everything there is to cover here.
But there's also a contact request form if perhaps there's anything which hasn't been mentioned.
And you can submit a contact request if it's a useful, pertinent question.
Or just searching Patriot Front on Twitter will lead you to a bunch of accounts which talk about us because they're pretty knowledgeable.
But again, thanks for having me.
It's been fantastic.
One of my most enjoyable interviews.
Very kind of you.
All right.
Bless you.
Yeah.
Bless you and bless all your guys seriously.
Hats off for all your hard work, dedication, and spitting into the eye of our would-be slavers.
Samuel, can't forget you.
I got, I got to admit, big guy, I was a little bit nervous when you were a little bit late for showtime.
I was like, oh, I really hope Sam's on this one.
So, oh, yeah.
Well, I was on, and then I got off because nobody was on, and then I come back.
You were already on.
You were early.
I was early.
Yeah.
All right.
Curse me.
Yeah.
I always print my notes at the very last minute as I'm tickering with them.
So sorry about that, buddy.
But yeah, you've got a big, beautiful family.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Wonderful show.
And thank you, Thomas Russo, for being on the show.
It was a great discussion.
You did a fine job on the show.
And I hope you will come back.
And thank you, Coach.
That was a great show.
Oh, yeah.
Flew by totally enjoyable.
And I learned a lot too and have a newfound respect for Thomas and PF.
Mr. Producer, you're not too shabby yourself.
Thank you, buddy.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
All right.
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Mr. Producer, we got a song recommendation in the inbox this week from a good friend.
I'll just say it's Ted.
It hit me right in the feels, and it's especially appropriate considering where Thomas is originally from.
So please take us out to Coyote by Don Edwards.
We love you, fam, and we will talk to you next week.
And minus Smasher, it's up to all four of us to say was a cowboy I knew in South Texas.
His face was burnt deep by the sun.
Part history, part sage, part Miskin.
He was there when Puncho Villa was young.
And he tell you a tale of the old days when the country was wild all around.
Sit out under the stars of the Milky Way and listen while the cows howl.
Woo, yo, ya poo, hoodaloo ya poo hoo.
Woo, yo, hoo, ya, poo.
Hoodaloo, ya poo hoo, ya poo hoo.
Now the longhorns are gone and the drovers are gone.
The Comanches are gone and the outlaws are gone.
Geronimo's gone and Sambass is gone.
And the lion is gone.
And the red wolf is gone.
Well, he cursed all the roads and the old men.
And he cursed the automobile.
Said, this is no place for an ombre like I am in this new world of asphalt and steel.
Then he'd look off someplace in the distance at something only he could see.
He'd say, All that's left now of the old days damned old coyotes and me.
And they'd go, Hoodaloo ya poo, hoohoo.
Now the longhorns are gone and the drovers are gone.
The Comanches are gone, The Outlaws are gone.
Now Quantro is gone, Stan Wattie is gone, And the lion is gone.
And the Red Wolf is gone.
One morning they searched his adobe.
He disappeared without even a word.
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