Fresh & Fit - He Made Hedge Fund Investing Possible for the Middle Class w/ Kam Dasani
Aired: 2026-04-13
Duration: 01:02:51


=== Swing Trading Monday (14:14) ===

[00:11:52]  And we are live.
[00:11:54]  Guys, Monday, Monday, especially in fit with Cam and my name is Sahil.
[00:11:59]  I will be covering swing trading today.
[00:12:01]  Let's go.
[00:12:09]  They counted me out, Raising my destiny, shaking his hand, Flipping the script, changing the plans, All screwed at top.
[00:12:14]  And I'm taking the fans, Making them jump, making them dance.
[00:12:17]  Making them jump, making them dance.
[00:12:20]  We bout to change the game.
[00:12:21]  We, out here, taking names, Let our voices rise, Let them reach the skies.
[00:12:27]  We bout to change the game And we're back.
[00:12:41]  All right.
[00:12:42]  It's funny because the last time you were here, it was just you.
[00:12:46]  You bring your student with you.
[00:12:47]  They watched a show previously and I was a master trader himself.
[00:12:51]  So we know who you are.
[00:12:52]  They may not.
[00:12:53]  Tell them who you are.
[00:12:54]  First things first.
[00:12:55]  This is what $2 million in a Morgan Stanley account looks like.
[00:12:58]  The reason I'm showing this is because our client was nice enough to let me borrow this for the show.
[00:13:06]  Okay.
[00:13:06]  This is what happens if you actually trade and invest long enough without complaining about.
[00:13:11]  The market being in the red or your trades being in the red, you just have to keep going with the strategy that works.
[00:13:16]  So, he'll turn five grand into 30 grand since our last fresh and fit episode, which was on December 7th.
[00:13:21]  By the way, he watched the show, he wasn't in the chat commenting hate or saying it was a scam.
[00:13:25]  He watched it, so you know what?
[00:13:26]  I'm gonna give it a shot, put money effort behind it, and he's up.
[00:13:30]  So, good job, brother.
[00:13:32]  And he lost 70 grand in crypto before that.
[00:13:34]  Whoa, what?
[00:13:36]  He tried again.
[00:13:37]  See, people aren't willing to try again.
[00:13:38]  Yeah, and now I'm gonna hire him because he's so good, he's calling our own trades to the point where my own email list is upset.
[00:13:44]  They say, Kim, how come I didn't see this trade?
[00:13:46]  I'm like, it's fucking Sahil's trade because he's learned the strategies.
[00:13:50]  Wow.
[00:13:50]  Right?
[00:13:50]  So that's what can happen.
[00:13:51]  And he, what, December 8th?
[00:13:53]  After the episode, December 7th?
[00:13:55]  One day after.
[00:13:55]  I'm just curious, what made you say, you know what, I'm just going to go for it?
[00:13:58]  I believe in Kim.
[00:13:59]  Was it the number he showed on the screen?
[00:14:01]  What was it?
[00:14:02]  For me, it was just more of like for the longest, I've been trying to find something that I can learn a new skill set, find something I can do that I can still work my full time job.
[00:14:12]  And what's your full time job?
[00:14:14]  I work full time as a CT technologist in healthcare.
[00:14:18]  And then, so yeah, what Cam highlighted was the power of options, the amount of money you can make with it, the flexibility of it.
[00:14:25]  So that's what caught my attention.
[00:14:27]  And then what made me sign up, everything he said, it just sounded too good to be true.
[00:14:32]  I guess, crazy as it sounds, everything that he was offering.
[00:14:35]  I was just more open minded to it.
[00:14:37]  And I said, you know what?
[00:14:38]  Let me just try it.
[00:14:39]  And I'm happy I did.
[00:14:40]  How long have you been watching Impression Fit for?
[00:14:42]  How long?
[00:14:43]  Since, man, I would say end of 2022.
[00:14:46]  Wow.
[00:14:46]  That's when I started watching it.
[00:14:48]  Long time.
[00:14:49]  Long time.
[00:14:49]  So, Cam, real quick, for people watching right now, what is the edge you have with swing trading?
[00:14:54]  Because obviously, people feel like swing trading is not easy to do, but you've mastered it along with your student.
[00:14:59]  So, what's the edge you have that most people don't have, you would say?
[00:15:02]  The edge.
[00:15:03]  I would say years of experience, number one.
[00:15:06]  Building a team around myself, number two.
[00:15:08]  So, if I'm here, On this podcast right now, there's somebody else studying the market.
[00:15:13]  I have a team of traders that look at the market and have been doing this for years, and actually, some of them worked on Wall Street as well.
[00:15:19]  Perfect.
[00:15:20]  Okay.
[00:15:20]  So, having that, it's hard.
[00:15:24]  I should say this it's easy to beat somebody who's just like a self taught trading guy that doesn't really know what happens inside of Wall Street.
[00:15:32]  So, let's say someone's watching right now, they want to make money like Seahill did, and they have like 5K to their name or 2K to their name.
[00:15:39]  Yeah.
[00:15:39]  Is that enough to get started and really learn trading, or what do you say?
[00:15:42]  So, 2,500.
[00:15:44]  Is the bare, bare, bare minimum.
[00:15:46]  If you have anything less than that, you need to start with credit repair and credit building to go to the bank and get buying power.
[00:15:53]  We can help you do that if you have anything below that.
[00:15:55]  That obviously comes with a cost too, but it's gonna be obviously less than $2,500 because you don't have that.
[00:16:00]  Now, five to 10K, what we found is the sweet spot.
[00:16:03]  Sahil is actually how I found that sweet spot, meaning I knew it was true, but Sahil proved it again because he turned 5K into 30K in three months.
[00:16:10]  So anything above 10K though is really, really sweet spot, meaning like, Anything from 10 to 20 to 25, we just turned a 25k account into 100k during the war from December 17th.
[00:16:23]  During the war?
[00:16:24]  During this time, bro.
[00:16:24]  December 17th to March 4th.
[00:16:26]  So, and we have a video of five minutes me going through the Robinhood account, literally showing wins and losses, adding up to 25k going to 100k.
[00:16:34]  Because I have friends that lost a lot of money during the war and like they had no idea what was happening.
[00:16:37]  And it's kind of scary because with Trump's news and what's happening, you never know what's the angle.
[00:16:41]  So that's pretty good.
[00:16:43]  So I guess like, okay, let's say 2500 is the minimum.
[00:16:47]  What is.
[00:16:48]  Ideally, what people should put, you say like five to 10K?
[00:16:51]  Yeah, five to 10 is the sweet spot, and 10 or more is the super sweet spot.
[00:16:55]  But the reason I say it's super sweet spot is because people that have 10 or more can actually get into all the trades quickly with significant buying power, meaning they're not just like trying to turn 200 bucks into 400.
[00:17:10]  No, they're trying to turn 1,000 into 2,000, and that adds up.
[00:17:14]  But with 5K, you have to be a little more cautious, I would say.
[00:17:19]  And I would say that's probably how you started being a little more cautious in the beginning.
[00:17:22]  Until you get that 10k buffer, and now you can play a little harder with your 10.
[00:17:26]  And what are you using for platforms right now?
[00:17:28]  So, two things.
[00:17:29]  So, he uses Robinhood, and we use Robinhood because he copies our trades manually.
[00:17:34]  So, from his phone?
[00:17:35]  From his phone.
[00:17:35]  So, no computer, no laptop, just phone.
[00:17:37]  You can use your laptop if you want, but you can literally use your phone and click four buttons to enter a trade.
[00:17:42]  Yeah.
[00:17:42]  Now, obviously, you can click four buttons and lose all your money and gamble if you don't know what you're doing.
[00:17:46]  But if you're following the right people like he is, then you win.
[00:17:48]  So we use Robinhood.
[00:17:50]  Now, we have something new that I didn't talk about last time because we were working on it.
[00:17:54]  For people that don't have the time to trade, but see our returns and want it, you can hook up your trading account to my trading account through our API.
[00:18:03]  An API is basically a software protocol that connects two things together.
[00:18:06]  Think the Uber driver has to know where to drive, right?
[00:18:08]  So he needs maps.
[00:18:09]  So Uber connects to maps.
[00:18:11]  Our software connects.
[00:18:13]  For example, Sahil's trading account to mine and enters every single trade that I make, but proportional to his budget.
[00:18:19]  Example.
[00:18:20]  Wait, so you're saying I'm going to copy your trades without doing anything myself?
[00:18:24]  You don't have to do anything.
[00:18:25]  We finally found out.
[00:18:26]  Hold on, that sounds too good to be true, bro.
[00:18:27]  Come on, bro.
[00:18:28]  I know it does.
[00:18:28]  I know it does.
[00:18:29]  It's too good to be true because nobody can do it in an SEC compliant way, so they can't advertise it.
[00:18:34]  Because, for example, I'm busy.
[00:18:35]  I got shit going on.
[00:18:36]  I can't focus on trading all day like this.
[00:18:39]  I just can't.
[00:18:40]  So if I could follow the trades like that, that's like a cheat code.
[00:18:43]  Someone asked me today, what's the catch?
[00:18:44]  I said, there's no catch.
[00:18:45]  We solved the problem.
[00:18:46]  Meaning, nobody that I know has done this in an SEC compliant way.
[00:18:51]  Okay.
[00:18:51]  That's important.
[00:18:52]  It's extremely important.
[00:18:53]  Can you tell me what SEC compliant things are?
[00:18:56]  Because I think that's very important.
[00:18:57]  Okay.
[00:18:58]  First of all, SEC compliant, what does it actually mean?
[00:19:00]  SEC compliant means you are doing things above board.
[00:19:04]  Yeah.
[00:19:05]  Above the law.
[00:19:06]  Or I should say in the law.
[00:19:07]  I should say not above, but doing things the right way.
[00:19:10]  What makes it compliant?
[00:19:11]  Couple things.
[00:19:12]  One, we do not charge a performance fee of profits, we don't do that.
[00:19:16]  We charge a yearly fee for the software protocol itself, meaning what we are selling is the software protocol that connects your trading account to mine.
[00:19:25]  Second thing, you pick what stocks of ours you follow.
[00:19:29]  So let's say you see our list of 100 stocks that we like to trade or options that we like to trade on those stocks.
[00:19:34]  And you say, I don't like Meta as a company.
[00:19:37]  I'm not going to trade Meta.
[00:19:38]  That's your choice.
[00:19:39]  Obviously, our clients pick everything because they're paying us for that.
[00:19:42]  But the point is, they get to pick what stocks they follow, which makes it compliant.
[00:19:46]  So let's say I don't like, I guess, like the Saudis or something.
[00:19:49]  And they own this company, I can say no.
[00:19:51]  You can say no.
[00:19:51]  You can trade 99 out of 100 things we trade.
[00:19:53]  You can trade one out of 100 things we trade.
[00:19:55]  Doesn't matter.
[00:19:56]  Third thing, you pick the multiples, meaning you get to pick the risk management rules.
[00:20:04]  We explain them to you like, hey, these are the risk management rules you can pick.
[00:20:07]  You get to pick.
[00:20:08]  So now it's all your choice.
[00:20:09]  So we'll educate you, but as long as you pick, those are the things that make it SEC compliant.
[00:20:15]  So, what happens if you don't do it with that compliant?
[00:20:18]  Is that like what you call it?
[00:20:20]  Go to jail.
[00:20:21]  Go to jail, right?
[00:20:21]  All right.
[00:20:21]  Like, I wouldn't be talking about it if that was the case because this is too big of a platform.
[00:20:26]  So, some actual like history here would be I did one back in the day, and it was Forex.
[00:20:31]  They're like, hey, you know, put some money in.
[00:20:34]  We'll trade for you with the bot.
[00:20:36]  Just set it, forget it.
[00:20:37]  Huh.
[00:20:38]  If you don't know where I'm going with this, and you'll be fine.
[00:20:40]  I put about 20, 30K in, made 50K in total.
[00:20:46]  20, 30K out, left the profit in there.
[00:20:49]  And then they come close.
[00:20:50]  And I was like, yo, I just got hammered or scammed.
[00:20:53]  And my buddy put 300K in there.
[00:20:55]  All his money was gone.
[00:20:57]  So that was not SEC compliant at all.
[00:21:00]  That's why I feel like my mistake was not doing it under that rule.
[00:21:04]  Well, that's the other thing.
[00:21:05]  So Forex doesn't even like it's like apples to oranges.
[00:21:09]  Forex is its own thing.
[00:21:10]  Forex is not regulated by the SEC, which basically means they can do whatever they want.
[00:21:17]  They can just do whatever they want.
[00:21:18]  Like, they can fuck you.
[00:21:19]  And, like, the same way in crypto, like, technically, like, rug pulls happen, and, like, these rug pull guys aren't necessarily going to jail.
[00:21:24]  They're not.
[00:21:25]  Like, not yet.
[00:21:26]  Not yet.
[00:21:26]  But, like, it's not even the SEC's priority.
[00:21:28]  The SEC's priority is to protect people from getting screwed and scammed by the things that they care about.
[00:21:35]  One of them is the US stock market, which is what we're involved in.
[00:21:39]  So, yeah.
[00:21:40]  Okay.
[00:21:40]  So, that sounds pretty good.
[00:21:43]  I'm going to put 10k to myself.
[00:21:44]  Let's go.
[00:21:45]  So, I guess what stocks people look for now.
[00:21:49]  Offer your experience, and then how much do they put?
[00:21:51]  Or is that more like a behind the scenes stuff?
[00:21:53]  Yes and no.
[00:21:54]  So we trade a lot of tech, okay, even with the war.
[00:21:57]  So, for example, a lot of things.
[00:21:59]  Give them like one really good one that they could actually do.
[00:22:02]  What's that gold 550?
[00:22:03]  Gold 550, what's the expiration June?
[00:22:05]  Or further, January?
[00:22:07]  Better one than that?
[00:22:08]  Yeah.
[00:22:11]  Gold 500 call?
[00:22:13]  Okay.
[00:22:13]  Okay.
[00:22:14]  So GLD is gold on the stock market to make it simple.
[00:22:19]  GLD, $500 call.
[00:22:22]  Expiration January 15th of 2027.
[00:22:28]  That's a guaranteed banger.
[00:22:30]  Like, just invest and wait.
[00:22:31]  Like, don't even look at it every day just to look.
[00:22:34]  Take a few seconds.
[00:22:34]  You look at TikTok, anyways, right?
[00:22:36]  But let it ride out.
[00:22:37]  The expiration date on that trade is January of 2027.
[00:22:41]  What's it called again?
[00:22:42]  Gold.
[00:22:42]  So the whole thing?
[00:22:43]  GLD.
[00:22:44]  GLD, $550 call, which means we're predicting GLD, gold, is going to go up to $550.
[00:22:50]  Oh, $500.
[00:22:51]  I'm sorry.
[00:22:52]  $500 by January of 2027.
[00:22:54]  Okay.
[00:22:54]  Yeah.
[00:22:57]  I like it.
[00:22:58]  Yeah.
[00:22:58]  All right.
[00:22:59]  So let's say I'm a critic and I feel like this sounds too good to be true.
[00:23:05]  What is, I guess, the most I can make if I put, I don't know, 20K in?
[00:23:11]  Or what's the most you ever made yourself?
[00:23:14]  Okay.
[00:23:14]  So let me break down the different types of accounts we have and what trades they do because that's important.
[00:23:20]  You were at 30, 35?
[00:23:22]  I was almost at 40.
[00:23:23]  Okay.
[00:23:23]  He was almost at 40.
[00:23:24]  Some trades went down before the war, but basically.
[00:23:28]  From five to 40k realized profit within from December to now.
[00:23:34]  Yeah.
[00:23:34]  So that's like we're not even a year in to his account.
[00:23:38]  So his account, he'll probably get to six figures.
[00:23:42]  25k, we turned my uncle's 25k to 100k from December to now.
[00:23:48]  So yeah, right now it's actually, it went up to 100 and then it's down to 70, but it's still at 70.
[00:23:53]  It'll probably finish at 150, 200 for the year.
[00:23:56]  So you can make 150, 200 for the year and just be fine.
[00:24:00]  Like, that's what 25K will do.
[00:24:04]  In terms of what we trade, you asked that as well.
[00:24:06]  Yeah.
[00:24:08]  A lot of tech stocks.
[00:24:09]  So, for example, people don't understand with options, it's different than trading stocks.
[00:24:16]  About what's going to happen to certain stocks by certain dates.
[00:24:18]  So, I'll give you an example.
[00:24:19]  Bill Gates just got caught up with the Epstein stuff.
[00:24:22]  Oh, yeah.
[00:24:22]  So, what does that do to Microsoft?
[00:24:24]  People aren't super, like, overjoyed.
[00:24:27]  So, we made bets on Microsoft going down and we won on those bets.
[00:24:31]  So, that's what people don't understand.
[00:24:32]  What about the market?
[00:24:33]  I'll give you an example again.
[00:24:34]  Is PolyMarket one of those too?
[00:24:35]  Where you could, like, bet, like, PolyMarket or Calci?
[00:24:40]  It's like a predictions market.
[00:24:42]  So, yeah.
[00:24:42]  Is that similar, you would say, or not?
[00:24:44]  No.
[00:24:45]  Well, kind of.
[00:24:46]  You're buying contracts like the same way you do options, but you're kind of more supportive.
[00:24:51]  It's like a legalized sports betting.
[00:24:52]  Got it.
[00:24:53]  Yeah.
[00:24:53]  Okay.
[00:24:53]  Basically.
[00:24:54]  Yeah.
[00:24:54]  So with Microsoft, my uncle's stock portfolio is actually down while his options portfolio is up because the options portfolio is more specific in the shorter term.
[00:25:06]  But then his stocks are just like you're holding stocks.
[00:25:08]  So if the stock price goes down, the stock price goes down and you've technically lost money, but not if you don't sell the stock.
[00:25:14]  So there's pros and cons to everything.
[00:25:16]  Can I write off the loss?
[00:25:17]  If I lose like 20K, can I write that off on taxes or no?
[00:25:22]  No.
[00:25:23]  That's a CPA question.
[00:25:24]  My CPA.
[00:25:25]  Got you.
[00:25:26]  Yeah.
[00:25:26]  I'm thinking if I lose some money in this, I might as well get a write off for it.
[00:25:30]  I think only if you lose more than your principal, which you can't do on a single options trade anyway.
[00:25:35]  Meaning if I put $1,000 into a trade, I can only lose $1,000.
[00:25:38]  Okay.
[00:25:38]  So it's technically like you just lost your principal, which I don't think that's the case.
[00:25:42]  I think there's a cap to your losses.
[00:25:45]  But if you win, there's no cap.
[00:25:47]  Yeah.
[00:25:47]  So there's a ceiling, but there's no, like, I guess, floor?
[00:25:51]  Well, I mean, there's a floor.
[00:25:52]  There's a floor.
[00:25:53]  But no, okay.
[00:25:53]  Yeah, you can only lose what you really invest.
[00:25:56]  With other instruments or other trading opportunities, you can lose more than what you invest.
[00:26:00]  So there's like a stop loss, basically.
[00:26:02]  There's an automatic stop loss of your principal, yes.
[00:26:04]  Okay.
[00:26:04]  And what's your risk management protocol?

=== Prop Firm Capital Limits (09:10) ===

[00:26:07]  Because I can only imagine, as a trader, your mind is going to all these places.
[00:26:11]  And you want to, okay, let's say I lose here.
[00:26:13]  I want to win big over here.
[00:26:14]  It's like go crazy.
[00:26:15]  How do you risk manage your trading or swing trading?
[00:26:17]  I'm going to give my answer and then I want you to give yours because yours is really good.
[00:26:20]  Because you're new.
[00:26:22]  He's new.
[00:26:23]  But guys, do you know what's funny?
[00:26:25]  What it is?
[00:26:25]  I like it because I can talk to Cam, which is an expert, and someone who watched the show himself, give guys a real how he felt about it.
[00:26:31]  Exactly.
[00:26:32]  That was good.
[00:26:33]  So, my way of explaining it is this we will risk, and I said this on Brad Lee too.
[00:26:38]  My episode drops in June.
[00:26:41]  We will risk 10 to 20% of our account per trade, depending on how confident we are.
[00:26:46]  So, max.
[00:26:47]  Yeah, max.
[00:26:47]  So, we're not looking for home runs.
[00:26:49]  We're looking for first base hits, second base, third bases.
[00:26:53]  Okay.
[00:26:53]  So, if I have 100K in my account, easy numbers, and I put 10K into a trade, 10%.
[00:26:58]  If you have 10K in your account, then we'll put 1K into that trade.
[00:27:02]  That's what you would do.
[00:27:03]  Now, our software does that for you.
[00:27:04]  So, that's how we stop people from over leveraging and being emotional traders, too.
[00:27:09]  Right?
[00:27:09]  Someone like him, he's very disciplined.
[00:27:10]  He doesn't need to use it because he actually wants to learn the skill, which is now why I'm fucking hiring him.
[00:27:14]  Because he's so good, he's calling you.
[00:27:15]  Are you going to hire him?
[00:27:16]  Yes, because he's calling his own trades already.
[00:27:18]  Yo.
[00:27:19]  That's why he's here.
[00:27:20]  I flew him out for this because I'm like, bro, if Sahil got so good in four months that I want to hire him because my clients are emailing me saying, hey, can I copy Sahil's trades too?
[00:27:31]  Well, fuck me.
[00:27:33]  Maybe they can.
[00:27:34]  Right?
[00:27:35]  But talk about your risk management.
[00:27:36]  Yeah.
[00:27:36]  So I would say for me, because I started off with a smaller account, I started with 5%.
[00:27:42]  So 5% on every single trade.
[00:27:44]  I didn't go over that until I started building capital.
[00:27:48]  So, once you start making money, your 5% gets higher and higher and higher.
[00:27:53]  So, after like a month, my $250 trades turned into $500 trades, then turned to $1,000 trades.
[00:28:00]  And then I got a lot of confidence.
[00:28:03]  Then I started increasing my risk tolerance.
[00:28:06]  How fast did you learn the procedure?
[00:28:08]  Because you said you did it in three months, right?
[00:28:10]  Yeah.
[00:28:10]  How did you learn so fast?
[00:28:12]  Well, I would say the first couple weeks was just simply following their trades.
[00:28:17]  So, I was able to double my money just simply following their trades.
[00:28:20]  Wow.
[00:28:21]  Yeah.
[00:28:21]  And then I showed up every day.
[00:28:23]  I went to office hours that they had.
[00:28:26]  I took the time on my own to learn it.
[00:28:28]  And I would say, about after a month, I started making it, I started implementing it myself.
[00:28:35]  So that's when I ended up losing when I was doing it myself, but I wasn't going crazy.
[00:28:42]  Like $100, $50.
[00:28:43]  And then once I started getting confident, I started making money and getting into really good trades, which allowed me to raise my capital back up.
[00:28:52]  And Yeah, when I got to like 10, 15K, my trades started becoming like $1,000 a trade, $2,000 a trade.
[00:29:01]  So you started really small and it scaled up slowly.
[00:29:03]  Yeah.
[00:29:04]  Because I'm super nervous, bro.
[00:29:05]  If I'm going to lose money, I'm out.
[00:29:07]  So I'll be like, yo, I lost money, I'm out.
[00:29:09]  So you stuck with it even when you lost.
[00:29:11]  Yeah.
[00:29:11]  But also, I learned a lesson too, though, is that once I started gaining confidence, I started over leveraging a little bit.
[00:29:17]  Started going 10%, 15%.
[00:29:20]  Then I started losing some money and I got kind of scared.
[00:29:24]  But that thing, that's the cool thing about this group, that the resources that are there, That when I started losing trades, I was able to reach out to Cam, reach out to the team, to my traders, and be like, hey, this is what I'm doing wrong.
[00:29:36]  What am I doing wrong?
[00:29:38]  I was able to take a step back and be like, all right, I need to chill, stick to my rules, and then I was able to bounce back.
[00:29:44]  So, from what I'm seeing, well, what I've heard and seen from people I know that trade, the best traders analyze when they take losses.
[00:29:51]  Yeah.
[00:29:51]  So, that's why I'll challenge you on what you just said.
[00:29:54]  You're like, if I lose an amount, well, bro, people ask me some questions like, hey, how much am I going to make a month?
[00:30:03]  I've answered that before, but the reality is, it's what are you going to make quarterly and yearly?
[00:30:09]  Because there are cycles.
[00:30:10]  You think Warren Buffett played for 40 years and did as well as he did in the market without taking losing years.
[00:30:17]  People aren't willing to lose in a month.
[00:30:19]  It's crazy what I've seen.
[00:30:20]  So I'm like, bro, you can be down a month and up a quarter.
[00:30:23]  We've had that happen.
[00:30:24]  That 25 to 100K that I told you, that account, that was down in one of those months.
[00:30:29]  And then it blew.
[00:30:31]  So trading is about waiting, right?
[00:30:34]  That's why swing trading is literally a swing.
[00:30:37]  Okay, you're waiting for the trade and the prediction that you've made to come to fruition.
[00:30:43]  That's fair.
[00:30:44]  What if I lose all my money though?
[00:30:47]  If you lose all your money, that means you didn't do anything we say.
[00:30:51]  And if you're worried about that, do the software and let us do it for you because our risk management rules prevent that from happening, right?
[00:30:57]  We look since the episode that I came on in December, yeah.
[00:31:01]  Have we had clients fail?
[00:31:02]  Absolutely.
[00:31:04]  Why?
[00:31:04]  Two reasons.
[00:31:05]  Sahil, do you want to share them?
[00:31:07]  Well, just gotta pay attention and show up.
[00:31:10]  That's literally what it is.
[00:31:12]  The thing is, he's there, right?
[00:31:13]  So, like, it bothers me because I'm like, Seal, I'm worried.
[00:31:16]  Are we not doing a good job?
[00:31:17]  He goes, Everybody who has ever complained hasn't showed up to a single study session.
[00:31:23]  Wow.
[00:31:24]  That's annoying because I'm like, So, you're telling me we offer multiple study sessions a week after work hours and you can't make it?
[00:31:31]  And we've set those expectations.
[00:31:33]  Okay.
[00:31:33]  So, that's the first reason they don't show up or they just.
[00:31:38]  Overleverage and get really greedy.
[00:31:39]  We've had somebody, bro, run up 100k with us.
[00:31:41]  He turned 20k, 20 specifically, into 100k.
[00:31:45]  Okay.
[00:31:46]  And then.
[00:31:47]  How long was that period?
[00:31:48]  October 20th.
[00:31:50]  I remember the exact date he joined.
[00:31:51]  October 20th to like late December, bro.
[00:31:56]  It was fast.
[00:31:56]  It was a really hot time.
[00:31:58]  It was before I came on here, but he had like started and then he hit that gold run and silver run that we hit.
[00:32:03]  Bro, he gambled.
[00:32:05]  He borrowed money from Robinhood Margin, bro.
[00:32:07]  We do not teach this.
[00:32:08]  He just did it because he was like, I'm winning so much.
[00:32:10]  I need to overconfident.
[00:32:11]  Overconfident.
[00:32:12]  So, over leverage, overconfidence, or not showing up.
[00:32:16]  So, at what point do you take profits?
[00:32:17]  Because if I made 70K, I need profits.
[00:32:21]  Yeah.
[00:32:22]  So he was taking profits.
[00:32:23]  This is what I need to explain to you.
[00:32:25]  He was selling the trades.
[00:32:27]  He just then went and said, I have 100 grand in my account now.
[00:32:30]  Let me go borrow a bunch from Robinhood, whatever they'll give me.
[00:32:33]  And now I blew my entire account, losing it all.
[00:32:35]  So, when do you take profits?
[00:32:37]  That was a different question.
[00:32:38]  When you take profits is dependent on the trade.
[00:32:40]  So, there are certain trades.
[00:32:41]  We did two trades today on vlog.
[00:32:42]  We're going to post the vlog.
[00:32:43]  It was literally live.
[00:32:44]  So, you could see him in Miami on my balcony condo trading with our traders.
[00:32:49]  Learning and hitting trades himself and also following our trades at the same time.
[00:32:53]  You'll see it live.
[00:32:54]  We hit a 20% trade and we hit a 100% trade.
[00:32:56]  Those are different trades.
[00:32:57]  So we know when to take profit on each one.
[00:32:59]  So I'm actually a little bit worried because I'll tell you why.
[00:33:03]  Yeah.
[00:33:04]  I've been pitched by other traders to come on the show.
[00:33:07]  Yeah.
[00:33:07]  And I've said no because from what I've seen and what I've heard and what I've been viewing, they can't trade live.
[00:33:15]  Now, I'm all for screenshots and proof.
[00:33:19]  But TJR, for example, just call his name here.
[00:33:22]  He was trading live with a student.
[00:33:25]  Is that real?
[00:33:26]  And I say real because, like, I don't really see the method behind it.
[00:33:31]  I just see, like, some numbers on it.
[00:33:32]  You want to come over tomorrow morning?
[00:33:34]  Sure.
[00:33:34]  We have our videographer, John.
[00:33:35]  You know, John?
[00:33:36]  But this is what I'm saying.
[00:33:37]  I've heard they can make a prop account look like a real account and then say, hey, I just made this much money.
[00:33:43]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:33:43]  Get a prop account, which is not a real account.
[00:33:45]  Yeah.
[00:33:45]  And then run with that as, hey, look, guys, this is what I made my student.
[00:33:48]  Well, XYZ.
[00:33:49]  So TJR, first of all, trades futures and he trades prop firm futures.
[00:33:52]  That's different than.
[00:33:53]  Prop account.
[00:33:53]  I know what you mean when you say.
[00:33:54]  I'm not saying that he did that.
[00:33:55]  I'm just saying in general, that's what I've seen some people do.
[00:33:57]  No, no, no.
[00:33:58]  I'm with you.
[00:33:58]  But I'm also saying when you say prop account, you mean a fake account.
[00:34:01]  Yeah.
[00:34:02]  What I'm saying is prop firm capital is what TJR trades, which is very different.
[00:34:06]  Prop firm capital means you are taking leverage from trading firms, very different than margin.
[00:34:12]  We talked about margin already.
[00:34:13]  Margin is when you go borrow from Robinhood.
[00:34:16]  Prop firms are their own companies.
[00:34:17]  You go basically take $50,000 and you're not actually responsible for it.
[00:34:22]  It's not risky like people think it is.
[00:34:24]  But the game is so hard to play because the company giving you the 50K, they say you have to trade a certain way and make this type of money and this much money, or else we'll just take our 50 grand back and you're fucked.
[00:34:35]  So it's really hard.
[00:34:36]  It's for like very, very experienced traders.
[00:34:38]  Most people can never figure it out.
[00:34:40]  So the reason I say your question was is it fake?
[00:34:45]  I cannot tell you whether somebody else is faking a testimonial or faking a client.
[00:34:49]  What I can tell you is prop firm capital is very hard to trade.
[00:34:54]  Flew him out here to vlog live, and I can even prove this.
[00:34:58]  These would be for receipts.
[00:34:59]  No, no, this would be financial fraud if I was BSing.
[00:35:02]  Okay.
[00:35:02]  He has two contracts with us, meaning Sahil paid us twice to be a client.
[00:35:08]  Okay.
[00:35:08]  And I can go through all these pages, or you can just ask him and you can look over this later.
[00:35:13]  But Sahil paid us twice.
[00:35:14]  He paid us once on, let's look at the fucking date.

=== Gambling Rewards Downside (04:22) ===

[00:35:17]  Hold on.
[00:35:18]  Boom.
[00:35:19]  Initials $5,000 paid.
[00:35:21]  Boom.
[00:35:21]  That was our old price.
[00:35:22]  Let's keep going.
[00:35:24]  December 11th, Sahil signed.
[00:35:27]  Oh, he's on plane.
[00:35:28]  Sahil Ram.
[00:35:28]  Okay, it's your full name.
[00:35:29]  Don't give a fuck.
[00:35:30]  Okay, look, he signed.
[00:35:31]  Second time he renewed, look how quickly he renewed because he already made so much money that he was like, I have to stay involved.
[00:35:40]  Oh, sorry.
[00:35:41]  These are other people that renewed early.
[00:35:42]  I brought it all with me.
[00:35:44]  Only brought Sahil to the show, though.
[00:35:45]  Okay.
[00:35:46]  February 5th, Sahil signed.
[00:35:49]  So, meaning December 11th and February 5th, he has a six month contract with us.
[00:35:54]  He's not even done with six months.
[00:35:55]  He's already renewing.
[00:35:56]  Papers everywhere.
[00:35:57]  Yeah.
[00:35:58]  Is it because you were making a lot of money?
[00:36:00]  You said, you know, I can't stop now?
[00:36:01]  Yeah, because I was thinking, well, in two months, I made X amount of money.
[00:36:08]  I can't imagine what a year would be.
[00:36:10]  So, I just, I don't know.
[00:36:13]  I got my conviction with them.
[00:36:15]  Like early on.
[00:36:16]  So I was, I just want to be a part of it.
[00:36:18]  I want to learn.
[00:36:19]  And then, yeah, just to see where it goes.
[00:36:21]  Is it going to surpass your job income soon or not?
[00:36:28]  On a daily basis, if I still keep going the way I'm going, yes, it will.
[00:36:33]  Now, will it replace it?
[00:36:35]  Who knows?
[00:36:36]  Like, you know, I have a pretty good income, so I can't really give up a job just because, you know, security reasons.
[00:36:42]  The dream is to do that one day.
[00:36:43]  But the dream is to be financially free.
[00:36:45]  But having that income plus this is like, yeah, right.
[00:36:48]  Good.
[00:36:48]  Okay.
[00:36:49]  So, I guess, what's the downside of trading with you guys?
[00:36:52]  Because, I mean, it sounds pretty good to me.
[00:36:54]  There's no possible downside, I guess.
[00:36:56]  No, no, there is a downside.
[00:36:57]  The downside is you have to sometimes wait a little longer than your gambling mind wants to.
[00:37:03]  So, the reason people like trading as a whole, you got to think of the hierarchy of things, right?
[00:37:08]  There's dating coaching and fitness coaching, which means, oh, fuck, I have to do the work.
[00:37:13]  I can't just pay for Box.
[00:37:14]  Right?
[00:37:15]  Like, that's what I'm telling you, bro.
[00:37:16]  Like, people don't want to do it.
[00:37:18]  And they're in Miami or wherever they're in LA, wherever it's popular and they want to do it.
[00:37:22]  Okay.
[00:37:22]  Then there's like start a business, flip houses, Airbnb.
[00:37:27]  People know they have to do work.
[00:37:28]  They know, like, they're not confused.
[00:37:30]  Trading in the human mind is like gambling.
[00:37:33]  They're like, I'm sitting behind a screen.
[00:37:35]  There's numbers.
[00:37:36]  Let me place a bet.
[00:37:37]  So they think they're going to be rewarded like a gambler.
[00:37:40]  And sometimes they are.
[00:37:41]  Today, what was our trade that went up 100% today?
[00:37:43]  What trade was that?
[00:37:44]  It was Tesla.
[00:37:44]  Tesla.
[00:37:45]  Tesla call.
[00:37:46]  Say the exact call.
[00:37:46]  Do you remember?
[00:37:48]  It was a.
[00:37:49]  You remember what it was?
[00:37:53]  Tesla 355 call expiration date today.
[00:37:57]  Yeah.
[00:37:57]  Okay.
[00:37:58]  So that trade, like you'll see this on our vlog.
[00:38:02]  We cannot edit this.
[00:38:03]  It's literally shooting up and he's typing.
[00:38:06]  Do you know what Whisper Flow is?
[00:38:07]  Where you talk to type?
[00:38:08]  Bro, everyone here download Whisper Flow.
[00:38:10]  You press the FN key on your computer and you just talk and the computer types wherever you want email, Discord, Slack.
[00:38:15]  He's talking 55%, 65%.
[00:38:18]  What's it called again?
[00:38:19]  Whisper Flow.
[00:38:19]  I'm not an investor.
[00:38:20]  This is not Evan Disney.
[00:38:22]  It changed my life.
[00:38:23]  It's on your phone and computer.
[00:38:24]  Whisper Flow will change your life.
[00:38:26]  Go right now.
[00:38:26]  Go right now.
[00:38:27]  Live on air.
[00:38:28]  It's on my computer right now.
[00:38:30]  Change my life.
[00:38:31]  You know what intelligence is?
[00:38:32]  Intelligence is what you guys just did.
[00:38:34]  The sign of taking information and acting on it.
[00:38:37]  Right away.
[00:38:37]  My fucking trader, who's sitting over there, took the information of Whisper Flow the next day.
[00:38:42]  It was on his computer.
[00:38:43]  And on our vlog today, he's going 55%, 65%, 75%, 85%, 95%, 100 sold.
[00:38:50]  Like, you will see this.
[00:38:51]  So the point is.
[00:38:52]  We're at an auction right now?
[00:38:56]  So the point is.
[00:38:56]  There are gambling rewards like that.
[00:38:59]  The problem is, people expect that every time.
[00:39:01]  So that's the downside.
[00:39:02]  I had a woman email me yesterday, a 60 year old woman, nice lady, paid for our mentorship, realized, and I told her, I was like, I think you should pay for software.
[00:39:09]  She's like, no, I really want to learn.
[00:39:10]  Realized it would take a lot of her, you know, a decent amount of her time.
[00:39:12]  And then she was like, I think I want to upgrade to software.
[00:39:16]  I'm like, cool, here's the software price.
[00:39:17]  She's like, cool, cool.
[00:39:18]  Now she's on the software.
[00:39:19]  She's like, Cam, I'm really happy with you guys.
[00:39:22]  I think you guys know what you're doing, but I just want to make sure that I'm going to make money here because it's been like two weeks and I haven't made enough money.
[00:39:29]  And I'm like, okay, enough money with respect to what?
[00:39:32]  So people need to have, and I say this with dating too if you don't have something to compare something to, then your expectations come from your head.

=== Auto Trade Money Needs (06:50) ===

[00:39:40]  Okay.
[00:39:40]  So if I say, if I say, I want to date a runway model who's a PhD, also only 22, and also worth 10 million, I'm setting myself up for failure because it doesn't exist.
[00:39:51]  So women have these expectations for men too.
[00:39:53]  They're like, I want somebody who's jacked, six feet tall, multi millionaire, doesn't cheat, does this, does this, doesn't have a social life, only cares about me.
[00:40:01]  Who is he?
[00:40:02]  Have you found them or are you just making it up?
[00:40:04]  So, the same thing with trading.
[00:40:05]  Don't make things up that nothing in life has shown you is true.
[00:40:11]  So, there are going to be months that you might be down, but there might be quarters when you're up.
[00:40:15]  Are you willing to wait?
[00:40:16]  The only clients that we have that genuinely fail simply don't play the game for long enough.
[00:40:22]  That's it.
[00:40:22]  Good point.
[00:40:23]  Yeah.
[00:40:24]  All right.
[00:40:24]  We got any chats here, Bills?
[00:40:26]  I'd love to ask you.
[00:40:26]  By the way, super chat questions as well because this is live, by the way.
[00:40:30]  You know, it's funny.
[00:40:33]  I.
[00:40:33]  I started learning trading, right?
[00:40:35]  And it's going pretty well.
[00:40:36]  But I can only imagine sitting down and focusing on this all day, it's mentally draining.
[00:40:45]  So I would actually want to have like an auto trader or a system I could follow because I could streamline.
[00:40:52]  I could do this, set it, forget it, and focus on what I'm good at.
[00:40:56]  So can I say one thing to that?
[00:40:57]  Yeah.
[00:40:58]  The reason why most people get scammed by auto traders is because they are AI powered, not API powered.
[00:41:06]  Here's the difference.
[00:41:09]  I want to say names.
[00:41:11]  I'm not going to say names.
[00:41:12]  Someone can sell an AI bot, which means you can use it, and you don't know if the trader's actually using it.
[00:41:21]  You don't know.
[00:41:22]  I don't know.
[00:41:22]  Yeah.
[00:41:23]  The API connects your trading account to mine.
[00:41:26]  So if I lose, you lose.
[00:41:29]  If I win, you win.
[00:41:30]  I'm incentivized to win.
[00:41:31]  You're in all the trades that I'm in, and it can be proven every single time.
[00:41:34]  Wow.
[00:41:35]  Any day.
[00:41:36]  You can say, Cam, did you do this trade?
[00:41:38]  Yes.
[00:41:39]  Because that's what the API does.
[00:41:40]  Otherwise, how would it fucking put trades on your account?
[00:41:43]  Right.
[00:41:43]  So, very few people have this built, and very few people have this as an SEC compliant option.
[00:41:51]  How do you handle losses?
[00:41:55]  Well, you just gotta just, sometimes you just gotta take the loss, right?
[00:42:00]  Accept it.
[00:42:00]  But you just gotta just trust the process.
[00:42:04]  That's really what it is, right?
[00:42:06]  So when we have losses, sometimes we just, I would say there's barely any losses, to be honest.
[00:42:12]  Cause if we have one losing trade, the next five trades are winning trades.
[00:42:16]  Seven are up.
[00:42:17]  Like, it's like, I mean, yeah, we have losses every now and then, but it's like literally like that.
[00:42:21]  Like, you may have one losing trade, but then the next five, six, seven are winning trades.
[00:42:26]  And it just, as long as you stick to your risk management, The loss is not going to hurt you exactly if you do the risk management right.
[00:42:33]  Yeah, the second thing I'll say, great point.
[00:42:35]  The second thing I'll say is understanding that just because a trade is in the red doesn't mean you lost, so that's the power of options is that you can set the dates in which your trades expire.
[00:42:46]  So we said the gold trade January 2027.
[00:42:50]  Who gives a what happens until then?
[00:42:52]  That's the last date where it should matter, yeah.
[00:42:55]  But people aren't willing to wait.
[00:42:56]  Cam, I'm down 50%.
[00:42:59]  We just had an Amazon trade.
[00:43:00]  What was down 80%?
[00:43:01]  It was down 80%.
[00:43:03]  Now it's up 50% and that expires in September.
[00:43:07]  So, would you say trade money that you don't actually need is a better option?
[00:43:12]  Because if I don't need the money, I can set it, forget it.
[00:43:15]  But if I need the money tomorrow, hey, yeah, I wouldn't do that.
[00:43:18]  I would only trade money that you technically have to lose.
[00:43:22]  But if possible, I would go play with some sort of leverage.
[00:43:25]  I don't mean margin from Robinhood.
[00:43:28]  For example, I'm going to hype you up a little bit.
[00:43:30]  So, he'll make multiple six figures a year.
[00:43:32]  He has a great W 2.
[00:43:34]  Not 100K.
[00:43:34]  He makes multiple six figures a year.
[00:43:35]  So, that's why when you ask him, Can he replace his job?
[00:43:38]  It's like his job makes really good money.
[00:43:40]  Okay.
[00:43:40]  So he doesn't.
[00:43:42]  This is extra, basically.
[00:43:43]  This is extra.
[00:43:43]  This is his investments.
[00:43:44]  He doesn't need to necessarily take profit all the time.
[00:43:46]  Even for me, I look at my trades like my investment account, I let it keep growing.
[00:43:51]  Then I sell my software and my consulting to people that also want to make similar money trading.
[00:43:58]  Now, how do, what was your question exactly?
[00:44:02]  Sorry.
[00:44:03]  I mean, so basically, like, let's say.
[00:44:06]  Oh, trade with money you don't have.
[00:44:08]  If I got like $1,000 and I need that money.
[00:44:10]  No, don't trade with that.
[00:44:12]  You should trade with money that you're willing to let sit in trades for a while.
[00:44:16]  The reason I say a while is it could be a day, like today with Tesla.
[00:44:20]  It could be a week with a different trade.
[00:44:22]  It could be two weeks.
[00:44:23]  It could be four weeks.
[00:44:24]  It could be three months.
[00:44:25]  This is your investments.
[00:44:26]  Okay.
[00:44:26]  Okay.
[00:44:27]  This is how you create.
[00:44:29]  Potentially, if you start with 25k, 150 to 250k a year in cash flow, because the problem I see here, especially with the markets, is that like inflation is coming at a rapid rate.
[00:44:39]  So, putting in a bank, you lose money, putting it in real estate, you got to maintain that, spend more money.
[00:44:45]  So, I'm looking at things I can put into put money into that makes money without headaches.
[00:44:50]  And I would say trading is definitely going to be one for me, uh, crypto as well, certain certain coins.
[00:44:54]  But sure, the headache of real estate is, dude, it's it's it's a lot.
[00:44:59]  Real estate for us, bro, with people with real money is not for cash flow, it's for taxes.
[00:45:03]  Yeah, it's taxes.
[00:45:04]  So I'm getting into real estate this year and next year.
[00:45:06]  I have two plays I'm doing, but they're basically going to help me not pay as much taxes in a legal way.
[00:45:11]  Cars, too, by the way.
[00:45:12]  Starting cars.
[00:45:13]  Oh, right off with the rolls and stuff.
[00:45:14]  Like G Wagon.
[00:45:15]  Yeah, G Wagon and stuff.
[00:45:16]  Yeah, with the weight.
[00:45:17]  Yeah, 100%.
[00:45:17]  So, yeah, I would look at trading like you're growing your investment account because most other things either take too much work to make the money you want.
[00:45:30]  And if you have a busy job, it's just going to be hard for you to like, Also, have an Airbnb business or also flip houses, but like Sahil has a job and he trades, like, you can do it.
[00:45:42]  What's the biggest mistake you see beginners make in trading?
[00:45:44]  Biggest mistake you were a beginner, go.
[00:45:48]  I would say just, I would just say not understanding exactly how to enter trades.
[00:45:54]  So sometimes, you know, they might put out a signal and then you're entering at the wrong time.
[00:46:00]  Like you have to pay attention to like what time they put it, what the price is, what contract you're getting.
[00:46:06]  So those are like small mistakes that a lot of beginners make.
[00:46:09]  What's the schedule like?
[00:46:10]  Wake up at 8 a.m. or?
[00:46:12]  Today we traded from what?
[00:46:14]  We were pre market, 8 50 Eastern in Miami, and we were done by 10 38.
[00:46:20]  Yeah, I think it was 10 38, exactly.
[00:46:22]  Usually, we're done in like two, three hours.
[00:46:24]  Yeah, like so.
[00:46:24]  You say, tell me, I wake up, I trade for two hours, and then I'm done.
[00:46:28]  Yeah, most of the time, yes.

=== Crypto Trailing Stops (02:33) ===

[00:46:30]  Sometimes that we will see something coming towards market closing and we'll want to enter, but most of the time, it's like two, three hour sessions.
[00:46:36]  Yeah, even for you though, bro, for somebody that's out late, just go auto because it connects it to mine.
[00:46:41]  Let me, like, it's my account.
[00:46:42]  You're trading with me, like, literally with me.
[00:46:44]  Like, the AI, the problem with the other auto traders, no one knows if anybody's skin is in the game.
[00:46:50]  So, I met a couple people.
[00:46:52]  This past year, right?
[00:46:55]  And they have connections kind of like you, where they have someone that is very well versed in trading.
[00:47:01]  And they'll say, Listen, put like 20K in this, 100K in this, and automatically it just 10X's.
[00:47:11]  Now, if I could have somebody like that in my pocket, like Cam here, do that with his account, and I can see his account like that, that's powerful because I can trust that you're going to make money for yourself.
[00:47:22]  Example, i.e., Me as well.
[00:47:24]  That's pretty good.
[00:47:25]  100%.
[00:47:25]  And he tells you when to sell.
[00:47:27]  Yeah.
[00:47:28]  So, this is the big thing.
[00:47:29]  Talk about your crypto experience.
[00:47:30]  You don't need to say names, but talk about with crypto how you share it.
[00:47:34]  I'm not going to prime you.
[00:47:35]  Go ahead.
[00:47:35]  Yeah.
[00:47:36]  So, I got into crypto last year in January.
[00:47:38]  So, I kind of came in at the tail end of the cycle, but things were already high.
[00:47:43]  So, the things I was buying, like coins, Bitcoin and Ethereum were too expensive for me.
[00:47:48]  So, I was buying altcoins.
[00:47:50]  And yeah, they were already kind of high.
[00:47:53]  Yeah.
[00:47:54]  Then we had the tariff dip in April.
[00:47:56]  Everything kind of came crashing down, and I was just putting every single dollar dollar cost averaging right just because you know, oh, they had you know, they could these guys are telling me, like, hey, this coin's in a 5x, 10x.
[00:48:09]  So, in my head, I'm chasing a big bag, right?
[00:48:14]  Like, I want to be a millionaire bag, right?
[00:48:16]  Yeah, just like every other crypto trader that wants to do it.
[00:48:20]  And then October came, the top was in, we didn't really have an alt season, everything came crashing, and I'm not.
[00:48:26]  Not only did I lose my profit, I was up like 30K at one point.
[00:48:29]  Wow.
[00:48:30]  I lost the 30K and the 70K of investment that I made.
[00:48:34]  Damn.
[00:48:35]  So, but here's the thing they didn't tell me when to sell.
[00:48:38]  So, this is the big lesson is that, bro, it's not that crypto doesn't work.
[00:48:43]  It's not that there's not rich crypto traders.
[00:48:46]  It's not that there's not profitable, successful crypto traders.
[00:48:48]  It's that they didn't tell him when to sell.
[00:48:51]  The system doesn't make sense.
[00:48:52]  Yeah.
[00:48:53]  Okay.
[00:48:53]  So, we tell you when we, this is another thing that makes even our mentorship SEC compliant.
[00:48:58]  We are telling you when we are buying and selling, when we are taking profits.

=== 401k Tax Implications (04:26) ===

[00:49:03]  Because with options, it's not just as simple as buy now, sell now.
[00:49:07]  It's adding two positions, selling one position.
[00:49:11]  We're selling certain things and buying certain things within the same trade amounts, I should say.
[00:49:15]  So, we're telling you when we're doing that so you can follow along.
[00:49:20]  Okay.
[00:49:20]  I'll give you an example of like how this differs from stocks, too.
[00:49:23]  That's, I think, very important to understand.
[00:49:24]  If you put $10,000 into Tesla in 2018 and waited till today, you would have made $150K.
[00:49:31]  It's a lot of money, but you had to wait seven years or 2018 to 2026.
[00:49:34]  Eight years.
[00:49:34]  Eight years.
[00:49:35]  If you did that same thing starting in 2020, you wouldn't have made a lot of money.
[00:49:40]  The reason why is because the big run was from 2018 to 2019 on Tesla.
[00:49:43]  That's when it really blew up.
[00:49:44]  So, The point is, stocks, you have to keep buying and keep buying and keep buying and just tie your money up, tie your money up, tie your money up.
[00:49:52]  And you kind of got to keep holding it.
[00:49:54]  And you need a lot of money for it to make you money.
[00:49:57]  That's the reason why the biggest investment banks and hedge funds in the world, Goldman Sachs, example, Charles Schwab, Merrill Lynch, whoever, they are buying a lot of stock on margin 90% of the time.
[00:50:08]  Meaning they're like, hey, I'm going to buy a bunch of stock, of Tesla stock, for example, with millions.
[00:50:12]  And then if it goes up 5%, I'll make a lot of money.
[00:50:15]  That's good.
[00:50:16]  But you, you, you, maybe you want to put five, 10K here.
[00:50:18]  5K and Tesla doesn't do shit for you.
[00:50:21]  So the strategy doesn't work.
[00:50:22]  Now, what the big banks, Goldman Sachs, et cetera, do 10% of the time, I just told you what they do 90% of the time.
[00:50:30]  What they do 10% of the time is what we do 100% of the time, trading options.
[00:50:34]  Why is that important?
[00:50:35]  Because we're a big fish in a small pond.
[00:50:37]  We're only competing with 10% of the hedge fund's greatness as opposed to the other 90% where we just can't win.
[00:50:43]  We just don't have enough money.
[00:50:45]  Hundreds of thousands of dollars that we have to trade with, even me and my team, it doesn't matter.
[00:50:50]  It's not, we can't compete with 100%.
[00:50:51]  And the big pool is so small, it doesn't matter.
[00:50:54]  We can't move.
[00:50:55]  We can't make enough.
[00:50:56]  The 5% return doesn't do shit for us.
[00:50:58]  But I'd rather make something than nothing at all.
[00:51:00]  So, yeah.
[00:51:01]  You would, but it's called being efficient.
[00:51:03]  Most people have 5 to 20K that they can put in, right?
[00:51:08]  Most successful people even have 5 to 20 to put in.
[00:51:12]  Even you, you were like, I'll put 10.
[00:51:14]  You're not trying to risk 100 right now.
[00:51:15]  Yeah, no, right now.
[00:51:17]  But let's say, right, I got three options real estate, 401K.
[00:51:21]  And trading.
[00:51:22]  What would you choose and why?
[00:51:24]  Well, obviously, I'm biased, but okay, a 401k means you're tying your money up till you're 59 and a half.
[00:51:31]  Hell no.
[00:51:31]  For potentially a few hundred grand.
[00:51:33]  That's a finesse, bro.
[00:51:34]  And if you need it before that, you pay a penalty.
[00:51:36]  Yeah.
[00:51:36]  And you still pay taxes.
[00:51:38]  Exactly.
[00:51:39]  So, and you still pay taxes.
[00:51:40]  So, think about what a 401k is.
[00:51:43]  Who do you think is rich?
[00:51:44]  The people investing in their 401k or the 401k company that's doing riskier things?
[00:51:49]  There's a reason they can pay you a certain percentage.
[00:51:52]  Because they're getting more.
[00:51:52]  Because they're making more doing other shit that they can't tell you about because they're smarter and you're stupid for investing.
[00:51:57]  Okay.
[00:51:57]  Second thing.
[00:51:58]  Well said.
[00:51:59]  Second thing.
[00:51:59]  Well said.
[00:52:00]  Yeah.
[00:52:00]  Real estate.
[00:52:02]  Okay.
[00:52:02]  My uncle is really rich off real estate, like eight figures.
[00:52:07]  Why I say that, though, is because he started with real estate brokerage, meaning he sold real estate.
[00:52:14]  Then he got connected with the people buying, leasing his buildings.
[00:52:18]  Who were those people?
[00:52:19]  Startup founders in the Silicon Valley.
[00:52:21]  Then he got the opportunity to invest in companies like Uber.
[00:52:23]  He made six million on Uber.
[00:52:25]  Okay, pre IPO.
[00:52:26]  Why I'm saying that though is because then he took all that bread and invested in real estate investing.
[00:52:32]  So people don't understand, you're not just going to like run it up from real estate investing.
[00:52:36]  I'm for the first time as someone who's probably going to make three conservative, five optimistic, three to five mil this year.
[00:52:43]  Now I'm investing in real estate for tax purposes, not because I want to make 300 bucks a month on a rental property.
[00:52:49]  Yeah, that's look, look, we tell everybody get real estate because tax, obviously, purposes, but cash flow, right?
[00:52:55]  And when you look at it from a cash flow point of view, I can make offer property.
[00:52:59]  500 bucks, but then I got to pay taxes, I got to pay for repairs, I got to pay for incidentals, and whatever I'm making every month and a year is gone because I just spent 10k on a roof, yeah, you know, 5k the plumbing.
[00:53:13]  So it is good to have the property for taxes, yeah, but cash flow is never enough because things always go wrong.
[00:53:19]  Murphy's Law, and as a matter of fact, I would argue headaches, tenants got issues, you so that's why I'm like, you know, I'm bullish on coins, I'm bullish on like trading because at least with that.

=== Upper Class Access (09:21) ===

[00:53:29]  Less stress.
[00:53:30]  I mean, it's still stressful, by the way, but it's not like, hey, this happens to your apartment at 8 a.m. in the morning.
[00:53:35]  You know what one of my biggest business mentors taught me?
[00:53:37]  He has about 10 mil, 11 mil liquid.
[00:53:40]  Every time I bring him a deal that I'm like, hey, what do you think about this?
[00:53:43]  He's like, I want, one time he told me this, it stuck with me forever.
[00:53:47]  He's like, I like to invest in things with more upside.
[00:53:51]  Well, fuck yeah, he's worth 10 million liquid, 11 million liquid.
[00:53:56]  Of course he likes to invest in things with more upside.
[00:53:58]  It's very hard to get there with something that everyone can do really easily.
[00:54:04]  You know why they say 99% of traders fail?
[00:54:07]  Because trading is fucking hard.
[00:54:09]  So, bro.
[00:54:12]  We don't have a lot of Sahils in our group.
[00:54:14]  That's why I'm not like, oh, yeah, like anyone can do it.
[00:54:19]  No, no, no.
[00:54:20]  You need the time, you need the discipline, and you need to give a shit.
[00:54:22]  The fact that you came here from your job, which is six figures plus, is like, bro, I can't imagine coming here for a scam, bro.
[00:54:30]  You don't leave your job, come here for a show just for this.
[00:54:32]  It'd be dumb.
[00:54:34]  That's pretty smart.
[00:54:35]  Yeah, so good.
[00:54:36]  And yeah, like we vlogged this morning, we're going to vlog tomorrow.
[00:54:40]  We're going to show you two days of consistent trades.
[00:54:43]  Of consistent trading days, we might lose tomorrow.
[00:54:46]  We'll fucking show it anyways.
[00:54:47]  Mark my words, I'm talking in front of however many people.
[00:54:50]  We will show a two day vlog.
[00:54:52]  We flew him out to do a two day vlog trading days where we are showing you what's going on.
[00:54:57]  I like the honesty because I just promise you, bro, some guys are so conceited and cocky.
[00:55:04]  They're like, yo, you never looked at a trade with me.
[00:55:05]  Ever looked at a trade?
[00:55:06]  I'm like, bro, please stop it.
[00:55:09]  What do you mean you don't lose a trade?
[00:55:11]  No winning trader doesn't lose trades.
[00:55:14]  It just doesn't make sense.
[00:55:15]  You will lose trades with me, you'll just win more.
[00:55:18]  Like, otherwise, why?
[00:55:19]  This is what people don't get.
[00:55:21]  They ask the question, right?
[00:55:21]  You're going to ask it at some point.
[00:55:23]  Let's just address it.
[00:55:24]  Why do you sell trading software?
[00:55:26]  Why do you teach people how to trade if you are so good at trading?
[00:55:30]  Well, here's why.
[00:55:33]  Why does somebody have different investment vehicles?
[00:55:36]  Why does a hedge fund manage the money of other people?
[00:55:38]  Well, they could just manage their own.
[00:55:40]  Well, if you have more buying power as a hedge fund, you'll make more money.
[00:55:43]  Everybody, it's all together.
[00:55:44]  With us, I look at money in a different way.
[00:55:48]  I say, hey, I have a cash flow business for my bills and my lifestyle, which is selling a system that works that I use, meaning my trades over here.
[00:55:56]  If I was scamming, why would I create a software that connects your trading account to mine where all the responsibility is on me?
[00:56:02]  If that was the case, then I would just do mentorship forever and not solve my client's problem.
[00:56:06]  Some of my clients, since my last show, they said, Cam, we just don't have the time.
[00:56:09]  I'm like, okay, cool.
[00:56:10]  I'm going to solve this.
[00:56:11]  I went and solved it, and now it's solved.
[00:56:13]  So the point is, why would I put all the responsibility on me?
[00:56:15]  Because if I lose for the next year, they're going to be like, I can't say it's their fault.
[00:56:19]  But with mentorship, I can because I know the people don't show up, don't succeed.
[00:56:23]  Yeah.
[00:56:23]  But with software, you don't have to show up.
[00:56:25]  It's automated.
[00:56:25]  Yeah.
[00:56:26]  If I lose your money, I can't blame you for it.
[00:56:29]  I can't blame them.
[00:56:31]  I can't blame anyone.
[00:56:31]  I can only blame myself.
[00:56:33]  So why would I take on that responsibility if I wasn't good?
[00:56:36]  Good point.
[00:56:36]  Dumb people.
[00:56:37]  Very good point.
[00:56:38]  All right.
[00:56:39]  We got any chats here at all, Bill?
[00:56:41]  So, we're going to do after hours coming up actually in 30 minutes.
[00:56:47]  And it's funny because at this point, I am actually going to invest with Cam, myself personally, guys.
[00:56:54]  And because I want to expand my portfolio, I want to make sure I get more out of it because we don't have a lot of time left.
[00:57:02]  Three years max before AI takes full control of most companies and most protocols, which means your job may be not existent tomorrow or next year.
[00:57:10]  You don't know that.
[00:57:11]  For a fact, but it's probably going to be less of a win for you.
[00:57:15]  So I always say, you know what, guys?
[00:57:17]  Find ways to make more money elsewhere.
[00:57:19]  And if you don't know, look into it and then learn from it.
[00:57:23]  Because the fact that you're here, bro, is impressive.
[00:57:25]  Thank you.
[00:57:26]  Because if it wasn't working, bro, I would not come here.
[00:57:29]  JonathanNX8 says, Shout out to my homie, slash co workers to heal.
[00:57:34]  Putting work and grinding, seeing it firsthand, getting only four hours of sleep per day.
[00:57:38]  Wow.
[00:57:38]  Let's go.
[00:57:39]  Happy to see the homies winning.
[00:57:40]  WFNF, WS to heal.
[00:57:42]  Shout out to you, bro.
[00:57:43]  Love that.
[00:57:44]  Yeah, you too, bro.
[00:57:45]  Damn.
[00:57:46]  He works at night, not so high as on his phone.
[00:57:49]  Okay, so what's next for you, and where can they find you?
[00:57:55]  Sorry, can you say that again?
[00:57:56]  Yeah, what's next for you, Cam, and then where can they find you?
[00:57:59]  Yeah, so what's next for me?
[00:58:00]  I just want to continue building my skill set, really trying to master this skill.
[00:58:05]  I love it.
[00:58:06]  And you can find me on Instagram at Sahilram2underscores.
[00:58:12]  And you can also contact Cam, you know.
[00:58:14]  How does it feel to use your phone to make money?
[00:58:17]  Because, you know, what's funny, back in the day, I thought it was impossible.
[00:58:21]  I can make money from my phone.
[00:58:22]  And like trading, you can do that.
[00:58:24]  Yeah.
[00:58:24]  So I was gonna, okay, so get it right.
[00:58:26]  I'm in a club in Miami just like a year and a half ago, right?
[00:58:29]  My buddy does like trading.
[00:58:30]  So we're there and he's like, yo, I'm gonna make this trade pay for the table.
[00:58:34]  I'm like, you're not making a trade pay for the table right now.
[00:58:37]  It's like 11 p.m. my life.
[00:58:39]  He trades futures for sure.
[00:58:40]  Bro, he makes his trade.
[00:58:42]  I see profit 6k.
[00:58:44]  I'm like, no way.
[00:58:46]  Is he joining at the same time?
[00:58:47]  The table's only 4k.
[00:58:49]  He pockets 2k.
[00:58:51]  Table's paid for.
[00:58:52]  I'm like, damn.
[00:58:52]  Yeah.
[00:58:52]  That's some G shit.
[00:58:53]  Yeah.
[00:58:54]  And that's control and freedom.
[00:58:55]  Yeah.
[00:58:56]  And most people don't have that.
[00:58:57]  No.
[00:58:57]  So, you know what's crazy is that.
[00:58:59]  For me, I'll make a $5,000 win in one day.
[00:59:04]  And I'm like, dude, I just made my paycheck in one day.
[00:59:07]  Wow.
[00:59:08]  And I go to work and I'm like, clocking in hours.
[00:59:11]  Clocking in, putting in hours, which, like, I like my job.
[00:59:14]  Don't get me wrong.
[00:59:16]  I'm grateful for it.
[00:59:17]  But just the thought process to which I never thought would happen is like making that kind of money in one day, let alone in a week.
[00:59:25]  Like, because my paycheck's every two weeks.
[00:59:27]  So it's like, right, an instant perspective.
[00:59:29]  It's your perspective.
[00:59:30]  That is one trade.
[00:59:31]  In what, less than like two minutes?
[00:59:34]  Literally within 15 minutes.
[00:59:36]  Someone's spending 40 hours.
[00:59:39]  Yeah.
[00:59:40]  40 hours.
[00:59:41]  Yeah.
[00:59:42]  So that's why I say the power of options is insane.
[00:59:46]  That's why I believe in it so much.
[00:59:48]  It's because it's life changing.
[00:59:49]  It's a life changer for me.
[00:59:51]  Good stuff, man.
[00:59:52]  Yeah.
[00:59:52]  So, Cam, we're going to find you.
[00:59:53]  What's that?
[00:59:54]  Yeah.
[00:59:54]  So, Profit with Cam on Instagram.
[00:59:58]  So, Profit with KAM.
[00:59:59]  And then we offer a free trial to the Discord guys.
[01:00:02]  So, we don't gatekeep stuff.
[01:00:04]  If you come in, the link will be in the description of the episode.
[01:00:07]  Yeah, down below.
[01:00:07]  What will happen is you'll click, it'll say join Discord.
[01:00:10]  You'll automatically get a permission that allows you to view everything, meaning the trades that we're in right now and also.
[01:00:17]  Trading success, which our clients literally post every day.
[01:00:19]  So you'll be able to see other people making money and you can message them.
[01:00:22]  Like we don't hold back, you can message them, talk to them, whatever.
[01:00:25]  And then my assistant will reach out to you and give you my calendar so we can chat and see where you're at and see how we can like potentially work together if that's what you're into.
[01:00:33]  Either way, it doesn't matter.
[01:00:34]  You get seven days to watch the show.
[01:00:37]  What we found last time is that when we did that, people ended up realizing what was true, including Sahil, including shout out Garrett Richardson if he's watching.
[01:00:46]  Garrett actually.
[01:00:47]  Watch the show longer than you.
[01:00:49]  Garrett joined the trial and watched all the way to the end.
[01:00:51]  He said, Yeah, I'm not ready to pay yet.
[01:00:53]  Then he watched.
[01:00:53]  He's like, He didn't even get on his follow up call.
[01:00:55]  He just messaged me on Discord and said, Kim, I'm ready.
[01:00:57]  Send me the link.
[01:00:58]  Because he knows, right?
[01:00:59]  Anybody who actually comes and shows up realizes we are the truth.
[01:01:02]  So that's why I'm willing to give it away for free for a few days.
[01:01:05]  Come find out.
[01:01:06]  If you find out that the money is there, which you will, but you don't have the time, we have the automation option, which is what you're going to do, right?
[01:01:12]  Because you don't have the time.
[01:01:14]  So we've solved every problem.
[01:01:16]  And to be real, man, I'm going to close with this.
[01:01:19]  We have solved one of the biggest problems in America.
[01:01:21]  Here's what it is Americans are looking for upper class investments, but because they're in the middle class, they don't get access.
[01:01:29]  They don't get access.
[01:01:30]  And you have to be an accredited investor for this.
[01:01:32]  You have to be connected.
[01:01:34]  You think my uncle just walked into Uber's office and said, hey, let me invest in Uber pre IPO?
[01:01:39]  The fuck?
[01:01:40]  I'll be honest.
[01:01:41]  The guys I know at the very top get so much access.
[01:01:44]  They'll be like, yo, go buy this coin, sell by this date.
[01:01:47]  They're up $10 million.
[01:01:48]  And I'm like, they would never get this ever.
[01:01:50]  No, it's unfair.
[01:01:51]  It's unfair.
[01:01:52]  That's what I ask you.
[01:01:52]  What's the edge you have?
[01:01:53]  Because the edge makes you win.
[01:01:56]  What do you really have?
[01:01:56]  Yeah.
[01:01:57]  So you can come and see that the results are here.
[01:02:02]  You'll come and see why, because you'll listen to my team talk and you'll understand what they know.
[01:02:06]  Right?
[01:02:07]  What we've democratized is hedge fund investing for the middle class, meaning why do you have to wait until you're in the upper class to be part of the upper class again and again and again?
[01:02:15]  No, let's take somebody from the middle class and make them to the upper class.
[01:02:19]  That's what actually matters when it comes to my impact.
[01:02:22]  I was in the car driving with him and my boy to South Beach, and we were like, Dude, I want to make Seahill rich as fuck.
[01:02:27]  That's what matters to me at this point in time.
[01:02:28]  Because it makes it look good as well.
[01:02:30]  I feel good about it, though, bro.
[01:02:31]  It's like, I want to hire him this year because he's going to teach our beginner strategies.
[01:02:36]  Sorry, our strategy to beginners because he was just a beginner, but he put in the work and now he's no longer a beginner.
[01:02:41]  Good stuff, man.
[01:02:41]  It's the reality.
[01:02:42]  Yeah, thank you.
[01:02:42]  All right, guys, this is Money Monday, man.
[01:02:44]  I'm Fresh and Fit.
[01:02:44]  We're back with some girls as well.
[01:02:46]  Myron's covering the war right now, but should be a good show.
[01:02:48]  And see you guys in the middle of it.
[01:02:49]  Peace.
[01:02:50]  We're out of here.
[01:02:50]  Cheers.