Arab recounts his dangerous travels to Afghanistan, Haiti, and Iran, detailing a 17-day kidnapping in Haiti where he paid $41,000 ransom while witnessing American weaponry supplied by an Israeli billionaire. He critiques the "war on terror" as a multi-industrial complex scam, noting how Taliban fighters resist atomic bombs due to religious conviction rather than tribal loyalty. His experiences navigating cartel territories and Iranian border crossings reveal that military force fails against deep ideological beliefs, challenging Western narratives of global conflict and exposing the futility of elite-driven interventions. [Automatically generated summary]
This is an interview, but I that I've been waiting to do for a while.
We met through Sneeko.
I think so.
Yeah.
I think we met in Las Vegas.
Yes.
We went to lunch together with the CEO of Rumble.
Oh, Chris.
Yes.
Yes.
And I remember the most recently was I saw we were at the Yay concert, me, you, Sneeko in Vegas again?
Was that a Vega?
Was that it?
Yeah, it was Vultures.
Yeah.
Was that a Vegas?
I don't know if I was hi there.
Yeah, you were.
I was at the Yay One in Vegas, yeah.
That was it.
Okay, yeah.
That was it.
Yeah, because I don't go to music concerts, but I was there.
How the hell did we?
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I'm trying to remember how we got in.
I was interested.
I don't know.
Sneeko was talking to Jules, I think, and then he got through their team from there.
That's probably what happened.
Yes, Jules?
I think at the time, yeah.
I didn't do any of that stuff.
I just went with him.
I was with him, I think, for it.
So, oh, she thought.
Well, yeah, we know that.
Yeah, we know that.
Yeah.
But yeah, no.
I don't know if he went through her, but I don't know how he got.
I don't know.
Because he knew him at that point.
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah.
So we were there.
I remember that.
I'm trying to think what else.
And then, like, you just went traveling.
And I'm all over the place, bro.
Like, I'm in a new country.
I mean, I thought I was going to be in Miami for three days.
Now I'm going to Costa Rica tomorrow.
You know, so like, I don't know where I'm going to be.
Okay.
It's like wherever the next thing pops up.
I try to live day by day.
And I guess we can start there.
What influences your decision on what country you're going to visit next?
So there's a mix of things.
There's a mix of like, okay, this might pull a lot of views.
So there's like a banger and then there's fillers.
You know, so like the fillers are like, okay, you're going somewhere to either seek knowledge from that place or learn their culture or film something cool or see the beach.
Like there's so many different things that might send you to a place.
And then there's the bangers.
The bangers are like, okay, I have a contact that's going to let me live with the Taliban for seven days.
I got to do this now.
Like, I'm not waiting until next week.
If this happens, we go as soon as it happens.
Gotcha.
I have a guy that's going to take me to the cartel to live with Hitman.
I got to sort this ASAP before anything changes, before somebody gets the wrong idea, an evil eye, before too many people find out.
You go in, you get out.
Okay.
So when it's like the more, I guess, exclusive situations, that obviously takes overtakes all that overtakes everything because at that point, you got an opportunity, probably a small window.
These are people that might not be the most rational.
So like you got to get there immediately.
Instantly.
Instantly.
So within 24 hours, you're on a plane to get over there.
It depends.
Like the Taliban one, I had actually planned it for six months.
Okay.
And then a week before Lord Miles quit on me.
You know Lord Miles?
That bald guy that's crazy?
Heard about him.
He quit on me.
Yeah.
He said, I got something came up.
Same day, I meet an American Afghan that's friends.
He's from the area.
He's from Afghanistan.
So he knows people that are in the military.
Yeah.
The Taliban.
He's like, yo, I'll take you.
Okay, yeah, let's do it.
He's like, I know exactly what you're looking for.
I'm an American.
I'm from here.
Like, I get what you're looking for.
Let's do it.
Is there any fear at all going to these spots?
Because I could only imagine how much danger you would be in in the wrong position.
There's no fear at all because I'm not going in with bad intention.
So like, I'm not trying to harm anybody when I go.
I'm trying to go and soak in as much information from their land that we've never been taught and see if I can see it in a different perspective at the same time, shift their perspective a little.
You know, like, hey, I'm also an American and I'm not trying to kill you.
You know?
Yeah.
So let me ask you this.
Like, because there becomes a balance, right?
Like, okay, views and then obviously like danger, obviously all these other things.
So when you're like accounting for doing something, right?
Let's say, I don't know, the Haiti thing or Afghanistan or Taliban, whatever.
Are you looking at it like this is a dope experience?
I'm going to do it anyway.
Or is that the same thing?
The experience matters.
The views and the fact that this is what pays the bills is what allows it to keep going.
So it used to be just for views when I first started.
It's like, okay, yo, you got to do something different.
You know the game of YouTube.
The game of YouTube, you have to do something extreme.
It just keeps getting more and more extreme.
Except most people's content is fake.
It's some form of curated fake extreme and they're lying a hundred times through.
I don't really want to do that.
I don't want to play a character on a camera for four hours a day.
Well, then 25% of my awake life, I'm playing a character.
I don't want to play a character at all.
Like, I want to be who I am and I want to do the stuff that I want to do.
So authentic.
Yeah.
So finding the balance between making an entertaining, authentic vlog and making it go viral, you kind of have to balance these dangerous places and names and big names so that you can pull in that stream of attention, right?
Like the Taliban series, that's a guaranteed billion views.
Like, it's going to do a billion views if I just all the social media.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Across TikTok.
Exactly.
Like, it still does five to 10 million a day of just random clips, people clipping it.
And, oh, that's the guy that went to Afghanistan.
And when you make content like that, I'm assuming, like, you probably have a very, most creators, their bases in the United States or Canada or English-speaking countries.
I would imagine with you, it's probably pretty international.
Yeah, I actually try to avoid the U.S.
I come to the U.S. only like one month a year, mainly because of the food.
The food in the U.S. is kind of poison.
Oh, yeah.
In Miami, you get higher quality.
Like, you're chilling, you're on the coast.
But the rest of the U.S. is cooked.
It's pretty poison.
Like, you go to Europe, you'll lose 10 pounds without even trying.
You can eat more and you'll lose weight.
It's funny.
We were in Vegas and Gary Becca had a session.
He mentioned America is the only place in the world where when you eat less, you live longer.
And I was like, wow.
I fast way more in America.
I fast way more in America.
When I come, I try to do like three-day fasts.
I'm in town for a week.
I won't eat for three, four days.
Because I like the food here too, bro.
I'm not going to act like it doesn't taste delicious.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's poison, but it tastes pretty good.
So that's one reason.
The other hub is Dubai, but you know, Dubai right now is, we love Dubai.
So, but.
Yeah, you can't say too.
I mean, I've talked smack about them, but I'm not going to put you in a weird spot.
Dubai is a beautiful place, by the way.
But I do love Dubai.
Like, I think it's going to recover pretty quickly.
I'll tell you why.
Because, like, okay, if Miami gets bombed, you don't think Miami's going to recover after a few months after it stops?
Yeah, of course.
Of course it will.
There's no.
Well, they have even more incentive to do it because the tourism is important for their economy.
Super important.
And it's such a central place.
And there's no place I've found that has that much abundance where the people want to help each other.
Like, okay, I went to Afghanistan.
Before I went to Afghanistan, I spent a week in Dubai and I met with two of the biggest billionaires in Afghanistan.
So somebody connected me over dinner, connected me to this guy's advisor, and he's the advisor to this billionaire.
Okay, something happens to me in Afghanistan.
At least I know a guy or two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I'm not going in blind.
These are precautions I started taking after Haiti.
Ah.
Okay, yeah.
That makes sense.
And yeah, I mean, when it comes to UAE, like, yeah, like, it's a great place to be, very safe, very clean.
Obviously, they're involved in a bunch of BS in the Middle East, but that's a whole other conversation.
And they're in the middle of a conflict right now, which that's a whole other thing.
But, okay, so for you.
I'll never die to a missile.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, all the things I've done and I'm going to die to a missile.
That would suck.
No, it just won't happen.
Yeah.
I'm just not going to die to a missile.
Yeah.
Like, I think the actual belief matters too.
Like, okay, a missile's hitting a spot.
You also got to know how targeted the missiles actually are.
It's very, right?
Like, they're not just targeting a random guy.
They're targeting a specific financial infrastructure.
They're targeting a specific guy who is a general in this army secretly.
They're really.
No, no, no, they're targeting like a specific room.
Yeah.
Like they're sending these drones.
It's actually very accurate.
What about the airport, though?
The airport's kind of central.
Infrastructure.
Infrastructure.
Yeah.
They're destroying infrastructure there.
Like, yeah.
Like, yeah, they're like targeting military officials, intelligence officials, military bases, stuff like that.
Because at the same time, like, they don't want to escalate too much with the Gulf countries and like, you know, because Dubai, for example, launders a lot of their money through and they're sanctioned.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, exactly.
So they understand how far they can go.
So, you know, it is what it is.
Okay, so I get that.
So it's a combination of like, all right, we got to balance views with danger and obviously get people entertained.
So like, what are your countries that you go to when you don't care about more importantly than balancing views and danger is the experience of knowledge.
The only thing I won't get back is time.
So when I'm sitting with a Taliban for seven days, I'm absorbing everything they're telling me.
I'm not saying that I'm accepting it.
I'm absorbing it.
And then I'll cross-reference it with my own intuition and my own knowledge and see what it is that I can learn from these guys.
There's no way they're 100% barbaric.
No, they're a tribe.
Like they're a tribe of a military covering 40 million people.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Like there's 40 million real people that don't fight.
They just cook rice all day and they have families.
So when you come in from like an open-minded perspective and you see the land as just another tribe, the whole game shifts.
Like I'm not going in and perceiving them as terrorists for an event that happened 20 plus years ago that we all know was probably done by other people.
Because in America, media coverage is basically it's very biased.
They believe, okay, these are the enemies.
They make you believe that as well.
And that's what they push out there.
But you're changing the narrative by going there, seeing people in real time and saying, what's the issue here?
What's happening?
Like, China's the enemy.
How long have I heard that my whole life in America?
I went to China for 24 days.
China is way more advanced than the USA in every possible way.
Damn.
And way cooler, way cheaper, way more efficient.
Bro, I took an eight-hour business class train ride for $70.
I laid back.
I had Wi-Fi.
I could see the countryside.
I didn't have to go through bullshit airport scanning security.
Eight hours?
Eight hours, $80.
Business class.
I laid back.
I was a king.
I was eating amazing food, Michelin star paying $30 a meal.
I was going to, everyone in China was so friendly.
I went to the countryside.
I had a random woman cook me fried rice.
Her children were running around the village with like not even underwear.
Like, that's how countryside we were in.
We were five hours deep.
We just rented an Uber, took it, had somebody cook us up fresh fried rice.
We snuck into the Great Wall of China.
It wasn't like communist strict.
It was like, hey, just come in and be a normal human.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't have to test my freedom here.
Like, let me play in their freedom.
All right.
So, okay.
So, so that has a lot of questions.
Okay.
So, what are the countries?
Because I want to get into, to make this a simple one.
Sure.
We'll get into the more complex stuff.
What countries do you go to when you're just trying to chill?
You don't care about filming too, too much.
You're just going to more like relax.
Lebanon, but that's my country.
So that's a bit of a cheat code.
Brazil.
How about now?
You go now?
Yeah, yeah, I go now.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, I would go now.
Yeah, it's not a big deal.
You have to know where they bomb.
Yeah, yeah.
Beirut in southern Lebanon.
No, they're not bombing Beirut.
They're bombing the one part of Beirut that is full of Shia Muslims.
Okay.
Like, you just don't have to enter it.
It's like, imagine they're bombing Brickle, but the rest of Miami's chilling.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, they're actually not bombing anywhere other than Brickle in Beirut.
How big is Beiru?
It's small, but it's compact.
I was going to say, how many people live there?
That's what I should say.
I don't know.
I don't know the numbers.
I think Lebanon itself has 7 million.
The whole country?
Yeah, there's more Lebanese in Brazil than there are in Lebanon.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
So there's 11 million Lebanese in Brazil.
Well, can you double check for me?
How many people live in radio and how many people live?
Yeah, Lebanon?
Wow.
Okay.
I didn't realize.
So Brazil is also a country I go to and I'm not doing anything.
Okay.
But I'll still film.
Would you live in Brazil?
Like, I'm not hunting content, but it just, it comes to me.
Like, I went to Brazil for carnival in February, and then I posted that I'm there.
A kid from the favelas hit me up.
He said, yo, I'll get you an interview with the phone thiefs that are super viral right now.
All right, let's go.
So I walked in the favela, interviewed four different phone thiefs, got out.
It was just like that.
When you go to the favela, are you wearing any jewelry at all?
Anything?
Nothing.
Anything else?
No, no, no.
You got to be smarter than that.
How about I said?
Yeah.
But I do bring my phone.
I'm protected.
Like, they're not going to rob me.
I'm coming in with approval, right?
I'm a guest in their house.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you could even invite one of your enemies in here.
I mean, you were just on Netflix.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
Like, you can invite one of your enemies in here and still be cordial with them.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
That's actually pretty smart.
You come in pre-approved.
Like, you check in.
Yeah, Barrel's 1 million, he said.
But you don't want to like, what is it?
Barrett has 1 million people?
1.8.
That makes sense.
And Lebanon is 5.7, so you're close.
Sorry, go ahead.
What was I on about?
Oh, approval.
Sometimes it's approval, sometimes it's not.
It just depends on the situation.
The most important thing is that you have to be quick.
You don't want to overstay your welcome.
So, like, you can see everybody, and then depending on who the biggest threat in the room is, like, if somebody's looking at you with an evil eye, you target them first.
So, like, I'll defuse them primarily.
Like, okay, everybody else is chilling, but out of these five people that I'm hanging out with, that might be dangerous.
This guy is the one who has an issue with me.
Even though I haven't done anything, he's just like being safe.
I'll start with him.
Okay.
So.
Point them out.
Okay.
So, and you said, why are there so many Lebanese in Brazil?
Bro, I'll tell you why.
This is my theory.
Yeah.
I think Lebanese, Lebanon has the most beautiful women in the world, genetically, except they don't work out the women.
They go and do plastic surgery instead.
Damn.
So that's the whole Arab world, dude.
Yes.
That's the whole Arab world.
Yeah.
So you know how it goes.
Yeah.
So I think Lebanese people found Brazil.
They're fucking lazy, bro.
I hate to say it.
I said it, not him.
But yeah, go ahead.
Wait, why don't they work out?
They just don't work out, bro.
They just don't want to work out.
They'd rather be like that.
That's like a foreign count, because they don't get fat like that.
So like there's no need.
But then eventually they'll get fat when they're 40 and 50.
Yeah.
Oh, later on.
Yeah.
So like, so I think the Lebanese guys went to Brazil and they were like, oh my God, we found the one country with more beautiful women because they work out.
They're not genetically, but they work out so they're automatically fitness culture is huge in Brazil.
Yeah, it is huge.
Everyone's sexy.
Everyone.
It's like you go there and you just lose weight.
You get fit.
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You have to.
Well, actually, if you look at Carnival, it's like a fucking sex fest over there.
Because that's like...
Bro, it was so gay.
Carnival was just gay.
Really?
It was just the gayest festival I've ever been to.
It was gay dudes.
Oh, hell no.
Not even straight dudes.
Gay dudes.
I went and I was like, I'm looking around.
I'm like, no girls.
First of all, it felt filthy.
Yeah.
It was like everyone's just hooking up with each other in the middle of the street.
I'm telling you, that's what it is.
And then it's just...
Wait, dude's doing that?
Dudes, girls, people cheating on their spouses.
Yeah, it's like imagine like a what's those parties, those sex parties is like that in the street pretty much.
What?
From what I've seen the video, why not?
It's pretty intense.
Is it a music fest?
It's just a week-long just ability to be free.
It's a festival in the streets.
Everyone's marching, having fun, dancing, just moving forward for a long period of time.
Brazil's got the most rainbow flags you've ever seen, more than Los Angeles.
Yeah.
Kissy went there.
A red beard.
Yeah.
All right.
Interesting.
Okay.
But would you live in Brazil knowing how it is now?
Like dangerous?
Well, let's see.
I don't think anything's dangerous.
The lifestyle.
Would you live in Brazil like full-time?
I just don't.
I get bored of a place after three weeks, Max.
Gotcha.
Like max.
Lebanon's the only country I could do for more than three weeks.
Wow.
Yeah.
Dubai, three weeks, like max.
Brazil, three weeks.
So what made you want to travel in the first place?
Just because you wanted to.
It was views.
Yeah, it was views.
It was like COVID ended.
I started IRL streaming.
I went to like 20 countries.
And then it just got really easy.
Like, you know, you're streaming.
You got a clip farm.
So you're how far can I test reality?
Okay, a guy in New Orleans.
I started around America.
A guy in New Orleans tries to sell me weed at two in the morning on Canal Street.
I'm like, okay, let me see if this guy will sell me heroin.
Yo.
You know, and I had like, I had like a heart rate monitor.
And I'm like, let's see how far we could take this.
And so the viewers really liked it because my heart rate would go up.
They're watching me like live this scenario where a guy was trying to take me to an daredevil, bro.
I need to do something like that.
That's good, bro.
And I did that.
I did that all over the world.
And then it just became too easy.
And it was like, it also wasn't growing my stream like I wanted.
It was like, okay, 2K, 2.5K viewers.
Maybe I was a bit early to the wave.
Maybe I didn't stick in it long enough.
Were you on YouTube?
Were you on Twitch?
Were you on Kickworth?
Twitch.
You were on Twitch.
And at the time, you couldn't really multi-stream.
Oh.
It was like before they had that.
You were doing this on Twitch.
Yeah.
You didn't get banned?
No.
Okay.
No, I was really good at just riding the TOS.
I knew the TOS perfectly because I'd streamed for three, four years.
You're smart, bro.
Yeah, like I wasn't.
You just turned the camera on.
I wasn't US Nico style.
Like, yeah, as soon as it gets to the point where it's a little risky, I'm like, this is my main funding right now.
Like, I can't lose this.
Yeah.
Otherwise.
Oh, so you just end stream?
Yeah, I would either, if it was too cooked, I'd end stream.
I'd delete it.
But can't they come after you even after that?
Or it just wants to go off.
It depends.
Yeah, it depends.
Sometimes they can, sometimes.
But I would also use my words enough to where it wouldn't.
And then it was like there was this opening on YouTube where there was this danger YouTube starting to bang, especially after COVID.
And the people doing it, they just weren't going in enough.
They were like walking the most dangerous street.
I'm like, this is gay.
Like, let me go in.
I'll befriend the gang leader.
I'll sit with him.
I'll have a talk.
I'll offer, you know, food to the land.
I'll take care of the children in that village.
And then I'll actually get the culture of this place.
And so I started doing it.
And the first one, I looked up the most dangerous hood in the world, Cape Town, South Africa, Cape Flats.
I booked a flight from Atlanta to South Africa direct.
And I met an Uber driver in the city.
He was from the hood.
He took me to the hood.
First hood, somebody tries to fight me just for recording, wants money.
I have this clip.
It's a black guy calling another black guy.
He goes, Black man is like a hyena.
You cannot give him anything.
He will try to bite you.
And I'm like, what the f- Like, where did I just end up, bro?
I'm like, I'm in Africa, bro.
And so it just started hot.
And then, like, a fan from Africa offered me a weed farm in the Cape Flats.
So I went to a weed farm.
And then I saw it.
It didn't look like a drug dealer.
It was a guy who was like looking at his plants like they were medicine.
Yeah.
You know, like he actually appreciated every plant.
It was like art for him.
He was a scientist.
So my perspective started changing.
And then I looked up like, okay, what's the craziest slum in Africa?
I went from South Africa to Nigeria.
It's a slum that floats on water, Makoku.
And like the water's black and it's on stilts.
And then that's how it started.
It was just like, it got easier and easier.
The first few, there was some fear.
And then it just, it was like, oh, this is just life.
It's like, it's really easy.
Like, then I went to the slum of Kenya.
They offered me a wife just for being white.
Like, the guy literally offered me his sister.
And they would have given me her for free.
But for the content, I was like, let me actually exchange cows.
So, like, how many cows for your sister?
What?
I negotiated.
It's on my YouTube.
I negotiated a wife in Africa for cows.
Yeah.
I bought them five cows.
I went, I drove an hour.
I rented a truck.
I brought five cows to the slum.
Everyone's watching.
Like, who is this guy?
Who is he taking?
How much did it cost?
Buying an African wife for five cows.
$1,000.
$1,000.
I negotiated pretty well.
Yeah.
They tried to rip me for $1,500, bro.
What about five cows?
Were they red cows?
No, they weren't red cows.
Yeah, they weren't.
They were going to kill.
You would have got killed for them.
They were going to kill them.
They were at the hype for cows, bro.
Find those red cows, they would have killed you for him.
Okay.
So very interesting.
So did you what did you what's funny the chat's saying like what happened with the African girl?
He thinks he's white over there.
I'm white.
Yeah, yeah.
Over there, they could, yeah.
I'm white.
Anything that's not this guy is white.
They'll consider fresh evil white over there.
What?
You will be white.
You would be colored in Africa.
You're colored.
He's black.
I'm black as hell, bro.
You're colored.
They're racist against you.
I know they're.
What?
Yeah, they're racist against him.
Aren't you?
Ashi, you're from Sudan, though.
I mean, you're one of them.
African.
No?
Not really.
Not to them.
No, he's Somalian.
He's like more of an Arabic.
That nigga is Somalian.
Oh, don't do that.
That's Sudan, man.
Come on.
Sorry.
Is it Sudan?
Sorry, bro.
Somalian.
That's funny.
Somalia.
Ethiopia, nah.
Yeah, Sudan's Arab.
Sudan's kind of Arab.
No, it is Arab.
That's Calamari?
Of course, yeah.
Oh, nice.
Oh, very cool.
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Where are you from?
Lebanon.
He's Lebanese.
Oh, Lebanese.
He's a Christian, though.
Really?
Yeah, I'm a Christian.
Good stuff, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Lebanon is like a good amount of Christians live there.
Yeah.
So, so, okay, hold on.
I'm just curious because you're from Lebanon.
You know, I was Arab all this time, Arab?
No, I did.
I've seen one speech.
Well, Somalian is Arab.
Don't worry.
No, no, no.
Somalia.
Yeah, they do.
No.
Yeah, they say Allahu Akbar and stuff.
Come on, bro.
Really?
The Quran doesn't count.
Yeah, they do.
They speak Arabic.
I don't know Arabic.
They see Gary.
He's coping.
He doesn't want to be in the same boat.
I'm not speaking.
Don't worry.
They're both just.
That's a good joke.
That is the worst.
You could call myself.
Yeah, no, But Somalians, they don't.
I don't know what their official language.
Yeah, look it up.
Shoot.
Can we look it up real quick?
I'm starting now.
I'm the captain now.
Yeah, Captain Nell.
But go ahead.
You want to say something?
No, just saying, you're asking about Christianity and Arabs.
So isn't that like a conflict in certain places you go to if you're Christian and they're Muslim?
Bro, I went to Syria.
Everyone told me you're going to die.
They're going to kill you.
Hello, Abbott.
I'm like, if you're Muslim, you're going to die there.
No one's safe, bro.
Actually, I disagree.
Okay.
I'll tell you what.
It's called Somali, he said.
I don't believe in borders.
Okay, it's not Arabic.
Okay.
You're Sudanese.
I totally approved.
Hello, Abbott.
I don't.
Hear me out.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm at the point where I don't believe in borders anymore.
Like, obviously, they exist geopolitically.
Well, Syria is also super fractured, so it's not even really even a country.
Like, there's Kurds in the north that they basically run that.
Like, Syria, yeah.
Like, crossing a border to a new country is for me is like crossing from Georgia to Florida.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you're not actually.
The Israelis control Golan Heights.
Like, yeah, bro.
It's just a checkpoint.
Like, just make it past it.
And I believe that if you come in with good intention in whatever land you're going as a good Samaritan, you're always protected.
I don't think anything bad will happen to you.
Okay.
Speed vs Drake Influence00:03:16
That's what I've learned from my experiences.
Like, I'm literally untouched.
You know, I sat with a warlord.
I sat with the Taliban for seven days.
I went with a hitman in the Mexican cartel.
I've interviewed all the Brazilian favelas.
I've gone to all the slots.
Untouched.
Nobody's ever even laid a hand on me.
Well, you are a blessed.
Yes.
But I am curious to know when you met Speed.
How was that?
Speed is crazy, bro.
Speed is like, that dude's another machine.
Like, that guy, first of all, doesn't stop.
And the amount of attention he gets in the streets, it's too much to handle.
Like, I wouldn't.
Being with speed made me.
Yeah, being with speed made me step back.
I was like, okay, like, if this is the game of ultra fame, I don't think I would ever even want that.
Yeah.
10,000 people in the streets.
You can't breathe.
Like, I think it's beautiful what he does.
I think he's one of the better streamers in terms of like showing culture and unifying the world.
But the amount of attention that that guy gets is just so much.
It's like way too much to handle.
Like, you just can't breathe when the stream is on.
You know what's funny?
Celebrities themselves have a great life from fame and money, but going to do public stuff like going to Target, is it possible?
You get mobs just walking the street.
Do you even want to go to Target?
Sometimes every now and then.
But I can't imagine Speed because Speed is an actual multi-global celebrity.
Whereas Beyond, please buy like drinking level, right?
Yeah, I'd say even more.
Are you more than drinking?
Or more.
Yeah, so imagine him walking the streets.
Yo, you're cooked because the thing is, is that people are going to feel more comfortable trying to talk to speed than Drake, you know, and that's why streamers have so much like okay, I figured this out too, like from the Kamala campaign.
You have fame and then you have influence.
Being famous is cool and all.
Like, there's a lot of famous people, but do you have fucking influence?
Influence is what makes people leave their house to go find you.
Yeah.
That's what makes people, I need to meet this guy.
Like, and that's the difference.
Like, I used to be like, oh, they're the same.
Being famous and being an influencer.
It's not, dude.
No.
Like, there's A-list celebrities that they could walk around my meeting and people won't even know who they are.
Well, I was in a movie recently.
Okay, my mate, five, ten people might come up to you, but do you have influence?
Bro, we were in Vegas.
Remember the guy from Star Wars?
The black guy?
Oh, yeah.
Bro, they didn't know who he was.
And I'm like, yo, this thing is lit.
But they're like, yo, we know you're fresh, but we don't know this guy.
I'm like, damn, he's an actor.
But actors aren't like influential.
I guess they're not.
I mean, we're in a new era.
It's all about internet.
It's like, it's all about internet attention through this, through streaming, through YouTube, through clips.
The 2024 election red-pilled me on that.
Like, I always had the suspicion, but then when I saw Trump, like, mop the floor with Kamala Harris and he only did podcasts and like streamers stuff.
Meanwhile, she had like LeBron James and A-list celebrities endorsing her.
I was like, yeah, this quavement.
Things have changed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Megan Stallion.
Rappers, like athletes, your traditional celebrities, actors, bro, they don't have motion.
Like they're famous, but they don't have motion with influence.
Like people don't care to stop what they're doing to meet them.
So like, yeah, Speed is going to get mobbed way more than Drake.
Yeah.
So, so much.
So much.
I went with him to seven countries.
First one was Brazil.
Correct?
South America as well?
Yeah.
Mainly South America.
The first one was Brazil.
I set up a fake kidnapping on him.
Fake Kidnapping in Brazil00:14:50
One month before I got kidnapped.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
So it was like, it was quite funny.
Yeah, you're here as a bad guy.
I've done this before.
Yeah, exactly.
So, how is Speed under pressure?
Is he like freaking out?
Is he like, yo, I need this camera work done properly?
He's actually, it's very intense.
If the stream's on, it's definitely very intense.
It's like everyone's freaking out about what the next make sure the signals work.
You know how streamers are.
Like if your show breaks for a few seconds, it sucks.
Yeah, you're gonna terrible.
You're gonna flip.
So I mean, that was part of the stress on why I got out of streaming.
I'm like, okay, I want to go to these countries, but I can barely stream here.
Yeah, Wi-Fi.
Yeah.
You're better off.
Like, if you're going to do travel vlogs and stuff like that, way better pre-recording it.
And, dude, I watched your Iran vlog.
Fantastic.
I love that.
Thank you, bro.
Because you were the only person I think that had been there right around the time of the conversation.
I had to be the last American in that country before the war.
I was actually, I was watching.
I was like, holy fuck, man.
Like, I was like, dude, I hope it was the first time.
Iran was scary.
First time, bro.
Iran was the one where there was a little bit of fear.
It was like, it was just dark.
They had just massacred 40,000 people.
What?
I went the day after.
Do you believe that, though?
40k?
I spoke to protesters in Tehran.
Okay, we'll talk about Alfa.
And they were telling me, bro, they were telling me, like, dude, I was literally in the protest, burning police cars, and then bullets start ripping past us.
And like, I'm with my friend.
We had to escape.
So many people were dying around us.
So I do believe he wasn't a Yehudi.
I think he was an actual Iranian.
Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Yeah.
You're right that that happens.
But Iran's huge.
Yeah, yeah, no, it is.
Like, you got to think if there were protests around the country, like at least 20k, maybe 40.
But they were sharing videos inside Iran.
Like, they were talking about people getting shot by tanks in Luristan.
Do you even know what Luristan is?
No, I know.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
People dying in Balochistan.
I don't know.
We've never heard of these places.
Yeah, they've had beef with the government or whatever.
I think it was.
I went to see between there.
Maybe, yeah.
That's what I think.
That could be Yahud.
So I'm not saying like, welcome to the clan.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you.
Did not say, La Ila ilaha.
Almost.
Almost got me there.
Oh, man.
Well, no, no, no.
That was great that you went.
And it was like a dangerous time to go.
So it's funny.
I almost converted to Islam about eight years ago.
I was almost in that boat, too.
Yeah.
Come in front of me.
I thought we were safe, bro.
Yeah, half and half, bro.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Okay, so let's go because we could go by country.
So the countries you go to to chill, Brazil, Lebanon, you said in Lebanon, there's 11 million that live there in Brazil?
I think so.
Hey, check it out.
10, 11, yeah.
I thought it was 10.
This time I went around, they said 11.
And there's like 7 million Japanese, bro.
Brazil has the best sushi in the world.
Maybe after Japan.
Okay, so let me ask this then.
So lots of Lebanese, and your theory is because the women work out.
So it's all Lebanese dudes.
Yeah.
I mean, they went and started families with Brazilians.
This has been hundreds of years.
It's like they're like half Lebanese.
No, yeah, this is mixed.
Okay, okay, okay.
I thought you meant like there's a full Lebanese community there.
There is.
There is massive.
Yeah, there's massive private clubs.
Why did they move then?
I'm telling you, I think they left at some point during a Middle Eastern conflict.
They ended up in Brazil.
They were like, the women here are way too sexy and they stayed.
Are they Christian?
The Lebanese there?
Christian and Muslim.
There's both.
Both.
Yeah, there's both.
All right.
Is that a kick subs?
Yeah, yeah.
That's when they send a super chat.
Oh, it's like a kick thing.
Oh, no, no.
It's like a 500 kicks.
Oh, sure.
I forget the Marco like.
Yeah, I forgot what it is.
It's like, it's like, okay.
So, okay.
So, Brazil, Lebanon, when you want to chill.
All right, cool.
Let's get into the crazy stuff.
So, I got to ask about Haiti.
So, ask whatever you want.
I wanted to ask about that because I saw what was going on.
I remember talking with Sneeko.
I contacted a friend from mine for State Department.
Thank you.
Of course.
They were so useless, the U.S. government.
Yeah, they are.
They ended up just putting me on a list after and saying that this guy is a red flag.
Well, we called them to help us, and instead of helping us, they treated me like I'm an Arab.
That's true.
I had a friend that was attached to Columbia at the time, and I contacted him.
But you were going to get basically I heard from Sneeko that like you were good, like you're getting out.
But I had started because I was like, wait, is this like real?
Like, is he good?
He's like, no, it's real.
He is being helped.
And I was like, what the fuck?
So that's when I reached out to, because I used to work for the government.
You remember?
I don't know if you know that.
I had a buddy of mine who was attached to, okay, I'll just say somewhere in South America.
And I said, hey, I need you to put me in touch with someone from the country.
So you already said the country.
You said the country like a minute ago.
I said Columbia?
Columbia, yeah.
All right.
Well, I won't say what office.
Sorry.
Sorry, I just want to say what office.
But yeah, he was there.
And this was years ago, so it's fine.
And yeah, but you were already out, pretty much.
I appreciate you reaching out.
Yeah, yeah.
Everyone that did reach out and tried to help from so many angles, it was really important.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it was real.
I was like, he's like, yeah, it's real.
Like, it's for real.
I was like, oh shit, then I'm going to contact some people.
Well, it's like the reason people were questioning it's real.
I mean, one, I'm a YouTuber.
Yeah.
So most YouTubers are fake.
Second of all, I'm sitting and I'm laughing with the warlord.
Yeah.
What else am I going to do when there's 10 guns?
Like, am I going to make an enemy out of him?
Yeah.
If I get stuck in his house, I'm going to make an enemy.
Or am I going to understand?
Okay, the situation is that they want a ransom.
I'm kidnapped.
I can either make them all mad or I can start pulling plays to soften them.
Okay.
I could start being a good Samaritan, which works everywhere.
When you bring the light of God with you, it works everywhere.
I tell you, this guy literally worships the devil.
And he would walk into our room that he had us put in and he would become a little bitch.
Well, let me ask you this.
He would become a little bitch, bro.
It's like it's like his like evil would go away.
It's like he would walk into the room and God was just protecting us.
There was something that just would not let him be evil in our room.
Wow.
So let's go through this then.
So what day did you arrive in roughly?
I mean, the day you arrived.
In Haiti?
Yeah.
The day the president resigned.
March 11th.
Oh, 2024.
Okay.
Holy shit.
Okay.
And Mo, didn't you tell me that was like pandemonium that day?
Or March 11th, I got maybe kidnapped March 9th.
I went in, something like that.
Okay, so you entered right around the time the president resigned.
They broke out 4,000 people out of prison.
I was like, I'm going.
I'm going to interview the head.
Okay.
I had approval from the top warlord.
Okay.
Why?
Okay.
So.
A second warlord kidnapped me.
There's five.
Okay, so how did you, okay, how did the trip?
Let's go from the beginning because, like you said, you always set things up before you go.
How did that trip get set up?
Previous YouTuber gone to Haiti.
He knows a guy who took him to the hood, DM the guy.
He's one of the best journalists that works with CNN, BBC.
This is what he does as a job.
He's a Haitian fixer.
He knows everyone in the country.
You can assume how a third world country, it's all about favors.
Of course, yeah.
And, you know, pay people, take care of them in a country where the dollar is worth a lot.
Yep.
So, you know, you contacted him?
Yeah, you contact him.
He knows a guy that's going to take you across the border.
The guy has multiple plans.
If the first one doesn't work.
So you fly into DR?
I flew into DR. Okay.
North of DR. I road tripped through the night to the border.
Halfway through the road trip, my car gets totaled because Dominicans have the worst drivers in the world.
They're all drunk.
So he hits.
Bro, I'm sleeping.
That makes sense.
I'm sleeping.
I just came in from Trinidad and Tobago.
Yeah.
And I flew into DR. I'm flying.
I'm trying to get in and out quick.
I just want this interview and I want to get the fuck out the country.
Right.
So I get in and on the way towards the border.
I wake up, bang.
I look in front of me.
There's a fucking big-ass truck.
One of those ones that carry cement that's like metal and square or they carry rocks or whatever.
And our little taxi car had slanted in the back of it completely total.
Was your guy drunk or was the other?
My guy was drunk.
Thank God I have my seatbelt on.
I just woke up in like a panic.
I screamed.
I look around.
I'm like, I'm alive.
I look at the guy, make sure he's safe.
We called the ambulance.
They come through.
Was he fucked up?
He was hammered for sure.
No, he was okay.
Okay.
He was fucked up like.
Mentally, yeah, mentally.
And then I just booked another taxi, took it to the border, slept for two hours.
I'm sorry, I'm in Spanish, I'm assuming.
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
Yeah, I speak to you.
So, and you're doing the DR. So you knew right away from listening to him speak, he was slurred speech, whatever.
He was drunk.
I just knew he was drunk.
They're just.
I had been in the DR prior, so I know how they are.
Quelo que.
¿Qué lo que?
Like, how are you?
Yeah.
Okay, there's different ways.
Is that Puerto Rican?
That's the Dominican.
Okay.
They have chinolas in Dominican.
You ever had them?
No, was it?
The best press and fruit juice you'll ever have.
And they have slave farms.
You know, I went to the Dominican.
Slave farms?
You know, in the Dominican, I realized that slave plantations are still real.
This is also a video on my channel.
It's called This is a Real Slave Plantation.
I went to the Batays.
It's where they get the sugar cane.
Yeah.
And these guys are picking sugar cane.
It's Haitian slaves that are picking sugar cane for $5 a day in the scorching hot sun.
Yeah.
$5 a day.
You're right.
18 hours in, bro, the most piercing sun I've ever experienced in my life.
I was wearing a t-shirt and I could feel like my skin was boiling through that sun.
And they spend all day in that sun.
$5.
So when I was in DR, I met Haitian guy.
He worked in the actual beach resort.
And he talks about how they're actually being put to do grunt work all day.
And this is better work coming to DR because it's safer.
It is.
Yeah.
So that's what he was telling me.
So he works $5 a day, but he sends his kids to the resorts.
They work at the resorts.
They make tourist money.
So that actually makes sense.
Wow.
So it's a really cool life.
It just shifts your perspective.
Like, I used to think slave plantations were 1870s, but then I saw that they actually exist, yeah.
Yeah, they exist today.
Yeah, all right, so you make it into Haiti, so you get in a car crash, luckily you're fine, you get into Haiti, um, and then when you get there, what's the first thing you did when you got into across the border?
Well, I got smuggled across the border, oh shit, okay, running because it was on camera as well.
Okay, you can see me literally crossing through the jungle or the mountains.
You had a foot guy take you through?
I'm sorry.
Hey, I had a random Haitian dude wearing slippers, but why?
You're an American, or was it too dangerous to go through?
The border was completely closed.
Oh, because the president wouldn't let anybody through.
Fair.
Okay.
So you went in.
How much did you pay the this is crazy?
Like an American?
Like, normally it's the other way around.
300 bucks.
Paid 300 bucks.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you get smuggled into Haiti.
And then what?
Once you got to your, where'd you, what was your destination?
Cap Haitian, which is like the north of Haiti.
So I spent a day or two seeing the nice stuff.
I booked the two nicest hotels.
I saw those.
So I went to the little island.
I always like to film a nice part of the country, too.
Of course.
Not just a shitty part.
Yeah, that's right.
It's balanced.
Yeah, it's balanced.
It's like, okay, look, I'm showing you these conversations and this thing, but this country also has normal people and nice parts.
And then we took a rental car seven hours through the mountains through the night at like eight, nine.
I don't know when we got there, 10 a.m.
So you drove from where to where?
Cap Haitian the north to Port-au-Prince.
Okay.
Isn't that the capital?
It was eight hours.
Is it Port-au Prince Capital?
Yeah, it's the capital.
Okay.
But the capital is ran by gangs.
Okay.
And the government just basically collapsed.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
So there was like a fake police checkpoint.
They set us up.
Because we had no rest, my fixer forgot to wait for approval before we crossed that place.
He sent the text, but he forgot to wait for approval from like the head of speakers of the warlord to call in this, I don't know, whoever owns this area.
Yeah.
And then we get taken, we get ambushed by eight people with.
What the fuck up here is you went through a portion of the camera.
There was no fuck up.
It all happened for a reason.
And it's the most beautiful thing that's ever happened.
Okay.
It changed my life so much for the better.
Okay.
So I guess the error that was made in that from your communication.
You didn't cross.
So you crossed through at a time before getting approval to cross through at that time.
Yeah, like they're in communication, but he sends a text and then we end up going before waiting 30 minutes or an hour for the guy to replace.
And then I obviously put you in the middle of the people.
Yeah, by the time they pulled up and we're ambushed, like the phone's ringing.
They got guns to us.
You can't answer the phone.
Okay.
Okay.
Who's going to find us?
So a whole other gang just grabbed us.
Who's going to find us in the middle of Haiti?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a whole other gang grabbed you.
Yeah.
Okay.
The gang that you were supposed to get Clarence through when that's them by and they're all like friends when they need to be, but they're enemies.
Like everyone wants their own ego of like, I'm the warlord.
Of course.
So you were supposed to, so your contact was dealing with one warlord, but you ended up dealing with another warlord's group.
Like imagine we're dealing with the top one.
Yeah.
And then like, imagine like we're talking to like El Chapo and then like a smaller guy who's also almost just as strong on the come up takes us.
Ah.
Oh fuck.
Okay.
So you get so what was that day like?
So you guys get taken out the car.
Bro, that day I'm like, it's just in my head.
I'm like, fuck, my mom's going to go through so much.
Like, I'm chilling.
I remember this lesson from Catholic school.
It was like, Christ will never give you a cross which you cannot bear.
So it's like a, you know, it's a metaphor on like Jesus carrying the cross and you also will never have a cross that you can't handle.
So I remembered that.
I had faith from the beginning.
And then it was just like.
So they're screaming at you probably in Creole.
You don't do you even know?
Did they?
I had my translator with me.
My fixer was a translator.
Oh, so the guy got a raise everything got kidnapped.
Would you?
Yeah.
And he has a daughter.
Okay.
Damn.
So they were trying to get his daughter to come too.
They were trying to like he made sure she went with it.
It was really weird.
Whoa.
I'll tell you what.
Dealing with thieves is harder than dealing with murderers.
Like, yeah, they might murder people, but their main thing is thievery.
Like, these guys, they rob people, they kidnap people.
Dealing with thieves is worse than dealing with murderers.
That makes sense, actually.
Yeah, a murderer needs like a reason to kill you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, they're usually not just going to kill you.
It's not like crazy silker, but yeah, you get the point.
Yeah.
A thief is just going to lie.
Yeah.
100% of the time, over and over and over and over and over.
So nothing he's saying is true.
So in that sense, it becomes a game of just awareness.
You have to rely on your senses and then verify like that.
Dealing with Thieves00:05:46
Okay, so that day, you guys get grabbed up.
It's you and your Connect.
Yeah.
He's the one communicating with them.
Obviously, you could tell they got what?
I'm assuming AK-47s.
I'm learning.
He's communicating with them.
I'm having him translate little bits and I'm learning small words that will make the leader happy.
Okay.
Because you have to understand the dynamics of power.
Of course.
I have zero power.
Yeah.
In this situation, there's zero power.
What did they think you were?
Did they think you were a Dominican?
Did they think you were an American?
What did they think you were?
I told them from the beginning.
I think, well, they have my passport.
Oh, fuck.
So they saw that I'm an American.
But I told them from the beginning that I'm a journalist and this is what I do.
And that they need to understand that when this gets out, not to be mad at me because people are just going to know.
So I said that from the beginning.
Like, hey, in two days, someone's going to know.
Okay.
Okay.
If I go offline for one day, like, this is what I do.
Yeah.
So just don't be upset when the word gets out.
All right.
Interesting.
We'll be here.
We'll be.
I'm assuming you probably framed that in a very polite manner.
You have to frame it in a polite manner.
And at the same time, you got to learn what makes the head happy.
You have to be almost like a gesture to the king.
Okay.
So let me ask you this then.
So the guys that was the boss, was the guy there when you got kidnapped?
No.
He wasn't.
Okay, fair enough.
So the cronies grab you up.
Where'd they take you?
They put us just in a little trailer right there at gunpoint for three hours.
People who smoke meth or whatever, they're like itching themselves and they're fucking gun, finger on the trigger held up to us.
Oh, shit.
It's less on me, more on Sean, who is the translator.
Because he's black.
He's worth less for them.
Yeah, that's the reality.
I'm white.
I'm the one who's going to bring them money.
That's why they kidnapped me.
Yeah.
Was there any voodoo or supernatural things that they were doing?
They're all voodoo.
These guys are voodoo motherfuckers.
This is the part that always goes viral.
What kind of guns do they have?
AKs?
Like AR?
So many different kinds.
Shotguns, shitty shotguns.
Some of them had M4s.
Some of them had proper American.
Yeah, they had American grade weaponry.
All right.
Funny enough, the people who run and give them the weapons is a billionaire from Israel.
Whoa.
I didn't say it.
My bad.
America.
But sorry, go ahead.
You were saying.
Voodoo.
That makes it supernatural.
Bro, voodoo.
The first phrase I learned, and this is a voodoo phrase that the guy uses as his catchphrase.
It's this, I learned this in the first few hours to make the guy happy.
Like, he wanted me to say it, and I learned it properly.
It's like, La Mont Saint-Jus paganjou, bayou pleis braquier pape vrappé.
And it means that La Mont Saint Jus is his name, which is the immortal.
Okay.
And it says the immortal something with a wooden spoon, which is like a voodoo something.
Okay.
Yeah, and then it makes him invincible.
So he's immortal.
He's death without days.
So that's his name.
What?
It was some phrase.
I didn't really understand the meaning at first.
I was just making the guy happy.
Most speaks fluent Haitian.
Like with the ghetto Haitian, too.
What is that?
That's basically like saying the wizard with the wand.
Okay.
Yeah.
All I heard was frappe.
I just went screwed.
I was like, what this is?
What is the spoon?
Wow.
It's because wooden spoons are very common in cooking and making tea.
That's why.
Which is some voodoo bullshit, which cracks.
You gotta spell the guests for the bottom of the bus.
And the bullshit is a wand.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
So the first day there, you're being held at gunpoint for several hours.
Well, your partner mostly.
What was that like that first night?
I was just thinking about my mom, bro.
Like, really, it was just about my mom.
Like, I knew.
She's in Atlanta.
So, like, sometimes between Lebanon and the U.S. Atlanta's all for you, like, when you are here then.
Yeah.
No point having like you go.
I go for a few days.
You know, I have a setup like you guys.
I game a little.
I catch up.
I sleep in my bed and then I go back out on the road.
Yeah.
Do you own anything payroll?
I don't own anything.
Nothing for real.
In Haiti, I learned to let go of everything.
When I came back on the helicopter, they were evacuating U.S. citizens out of Cap Haitian.
Oh, yeah, we got to get there.
We got to get there.
They're out of Port-au-Prince.
We got to get there.
Okay.
So you're there.
First night.
How was that?
But this is an important lesson of letting go of everything.
It's like it makes you be able to have so much more in life.
Like you let go of all the money you have.
You let go of everything.
Your YouTube channel, your views.
None of it matters.
Like I'm stuck in a room for 17 days and I have nothing but me and God and figuring out what I have done wrong to end up in this situation where I might have relied on myself and not a higher power and where I might have let my ego get too inflated.
Wow.
And so you sit, I mean, it's all you have to do.
You're thinking of like, okay, what about the girl I'm dating?
I'm clearly not going to marry her.
All right.
Like I've been in his girl for a year.
I know she's not the one I'm going to marry.
Like we're having fun.
We got a good relationship.
But I got to get rid of her.
Like, okay, I promise you, God, I'll get rid of her when I'm out of here.
You know?
Okay, what else do I got to change in my life after I get out of here?
Okay.
Give me a sign that you're at least listening.
And then like a dove will land in front of me.
I'm like, do I have to interpret this as a sign?
How do I know it's a sign?
Like, I don't know.
I'm looking for something.
And so I also remember this thing that Andrew Tate said.
He said when he went to jail, he was not going to let himself become a worse person.
He was doing 400 push-ups a day or whatever.
Okay, fuck you.
I'm doing 300 push-ups a day.
I barely got food.
I'm stretching two hours a day.
I asked them for something that we could lift for a dumbbell.
They had some dumbbells they had stolen.
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I mean, we were making use of our time.
I lost nine kilos.
So I lost like 18, 20 pounds.
Damn, but shit.
Yeah.
All right.
So what was that first night like then?
Did you sleep at all?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, you just got to sleep.
You're just sitting there in the trailer.
Yeah, you're just like...
Was there a bed?
Like, what was the, give us a break?
Yeah, he put us in like a little shack of his with like a bed and a couch.
Okay.
So it was.
Was there a TV or anything?
No.
No, there was a toilet that you had to empty a bucket of water into to flush to create like a swirl.
Yeah.
So I learned how to do that.
Okay.
We had to shower out of a bucket.
Okay.
So we had to share the same soap bar.
So the way you do that is you don't put the soap on your body.
You got to just put it on your hands and then you do it.
So I learned, I learned a lot of like cool survival solo.
I don't know.
Was there bugs there too?
Yeah, there was bed bugs on the bed.
I was sleeping with like all the layers that I had every night.
I had like my hoodie over myself.
I had my hands in my pockets.
Like no.
I mean, they were still getting through, I'm sure, to you know, through some parts, but I would like layer things.
Did you get bit by them?
Not too much.
Okay.
Yeah, not too much.
Okay.
So bed bugs, fair.
And then you were.
Oh, man.
So what was like, take me through it.
You were there for 17 days, almost three weeks.
Take me through like a typical day.
You'd wake up at what time and then take us like through a typical day while you were.
You wake up at the sunrise for the most part.
6 a.m.
Yeah, yeah, like 5, 6 a.m.
By the time nighttime comes, like throughout the day, a few gangsters will come through at the beginning.
Like the warlord comes through a bit more, but then he's got to go run his operations.
They come through, they chat with you, they bring you food once a day, either like noodles and ketchup or like rice and a half a boiled egg.
Okay.
And then we were also in the shed that they were storing their whiskey and their cigarettes.
So we were like bartenders.
So through the cell, they would come and request like cigarettes from us, whiskey.
So it's almost like God put us in the cell that we had a bargaining chip.
Yeah.
Not that they couldn't come get it, but they're going to start liking us.
Like you like the bartender, you know, like you, especially if he's giving you gifts.
Like they had infinite cigarettes and whiskey that they take as tax anytime somebody comes through their land.
So like someone's taking from Port-au-Prince to Caphacian.
Yeah.
All right, give me, give me five caskets.
You know, give me five boxes of cigarettes.
That's your tax.
You can have the other 90%.
Ah, okay.
So when people, okay, fair.
So if they're delivering items, because the country's still running.
So like the gang's not necessarily trying to make them stop.
The gang is just taking their tax.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So, all right.
So you'd have a bunch of whiskey and cigarettes and other random things there.
They would store it there.
And you guys didn't steal from them, obviously.
No, no, we didn't.
Because they probably liked that.
And you would watch their stuff for them, kind of.
So when the warlords and the people would come, like, how often would they hang out with you guys?
It wasn't like a hangout.
Many times when they would come by, they would like, they were like sneaking time away from their jobs.
Ah, okay.
They needed a break or some shit.
Yeah.
Give me some whiskey, man.
Exactly.
Try to kill somebody.
Exactly.
Basically that.
So, and then Sean was really good at extracting info from them.
Okay.
So he'd have conversations.
He'd get to know them more than I.
I didn't understand anything.
So I was just sitting there working out, praying, stretching.
Like, I'm going to come out of this a better man.
Yeah.
The entire time you were there, Arab, were you like, you know what?
This is it for me.
It's all, never.
Never.
You can't assume that.
I write about this in my book.
I haven't published it yet, but I just finished it.
And it talks about a lot of these dangerous situations.
And the whole point is that you cannot assume that outcome.
You have to always assume the best outcome.
You have to assume it.
No matter what bullshits happen along the way, assume the best outcome.
We are getting YouTube back.
Let's fucking go.
You should have that.
You should have that in your head.
That's what faith is.
Maybe God doesn't will it, but that's what faith is.
You have to assume the best outcome.
Yeah.
So, um, so, okay.
What was the worst day or the worst experience during the 17 days of day 12?
Okay.
Day 11, they stole the ransom and they kept me inside.
What?
Okay, so it's already.
Explain how the ransom even came into play because they don't.
And my brother negotiated it.
My brother's a big marketing guy in the U.S.
So he's really good at negotiations.
He handled the whole negotiation.
He got in contact with you and then you got into contact with me.
When they take you in, they're like, okay, who are we going to contact?
Ah, okay.
Like your mom, your dad, your brother.
I'm like, you're not contacting my mom.
She'll die.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, great.
We'll contact your mom.
I'm like, no, you don't understand.
I won't call my mom.
She'll have a heart attack.
Or call my brother.
He'll get you what you want.
Okay.
My brother is the most ruthless.
Okay.
He's the most detached.
He's the one who can negotiate with these guys.
He's the one who doesn't care.
So I'm like on that first phone call, like, hey, man, I'm in Haiti and being held in the middle of the day.
It's like he's at work in his office running his agency.
You know, he's got 100 employees.
And then he gets a text from me that says, yo, bro, I'm kidnapped.
And he goes, real or fake?
I go, fully real.
He's like, okay.
I can call this time.
Okay.
Like, they'll call you later.
Okay, yeah.
Two hours later, they call.
He's ready.
Okay.
Wow.
What was the first negotiation like for that first phone call?
They started with like 600K.
And he caught them off.
They said like $5,000.
That's what they said.
Exactly.
That's what they said because their English is broken.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, and then he caught them off at $5,000.
He's like, $5,000?
They're like, no, $600,000.
He's like, $5,000.
How am I going to get $5,000?
So he was good.
Yeah.
He was really good.
And I snuck in like a few Arabic words.
Like, Salwid.
I said Salwid.
The first thing I said, which means film.
Okay, yep.
Yep.
I'm not getting kidnapped and not filming it, bro.
That's what I do.
You know what I mean?
Like, imagine I came out without a bit of footage or something to create.
Then it was all.
So what did I go?
Okay, so you told him to film like the conversation.
Yeah, like conversations, back-end stuff.
Like at least get something for us to make.
I'll steal what I can throughout however long we're here.
So you were still focused on making content of these.
For sure, bro.
He ain't playing.
What am I doing this for if not to actually show the world how it actually goes?
That's crazy.
But that's how you know it was real too, as well.
Well, that's what makes people think that it was fake.
Oh, how was he able to film it?
Well, they give you your phone and they disappear for a minute and you steal 16 seconds of footage over five different days.
Now you're at a minute and a half, two minutes of footage, right?
Question.
Mo, you're from Haiti.
His story does add up.
Do you think it's legit being from Haiti?
Getting kidnapped?
Yes, especially Porto Prince and especially knowing about the and knowing the exchange between Portal Prince and Capasian because that is like the suburbs and there are people who are from Capasian.
A little more privileged.
My dad's from there.
Yeah, it's a nice place.
Yeah.
But a lot of people.
Because of the exchanges that happen, those add up.
Like there are like business exchanges between Port-au-Prince and Capasian.
Wow.
Question for you.
Just to bring back when you said let everything go.
By business exchanges, he means that somebody sold me along the path.
That's what he means by business exchange.
He means somebody along the road saw a white guy coming down and told somebody and then they get a cut from taking me.
Yes.
He's using code words.
Damn.
Back to when you said let everything go.
That was actually a revelation that you had, right?
Oh my God, it's the most powerful.
I'm going through it now myself.
And I feel like at that point, what you let go of fully?
Was it your girl, cars?
Was it money?
What was he letting go of?
I realized YouTube doesn't matter.
So I stopped giving a fuck about views.
I mean, now I get a lot more views.
Now we have fan pages and blah, blah, blah.
And, you know, we do like 150 to 200 mil a month on shorts.
But I don't care about the view.
Like, the view is just a metric to enhance the business and multiply the message further.
So like, I'm not attached to if I get a one of 10 on YouTube or a five of 10.
Like, I'm going to try to make the best art and I'm going to continue building.
But the biggest revelation of the letting go was like actually after when I had to get out on a US helicopter out of Port-au-Prince and they wouldn't let us take our suitcase.
You're only allowed one bag, and it can't be a hard bag.
It has to be like a – Makes sense.
So I had to get rid of like all the trinkets that I had from my kidnapping and I had to like specifically get rid of like my favorite clothes and all these things.
And so I was like, okay, what am I going to get rid of?
What am I going to keep?
This is a really cool moment in my life.
Like, okay, so I picked a few things and I just threw everything else out.
And it was like, none of this matters anyway.
Like my life was just on the line for two and a half weeks.
My mom's dying at home wanting to see her son.
Yeah.
You know, like, so I just let go of it.
And then from there, it was a journey.
It wasn't just an instant thing.
Like, letting go is a big thing.
Like, you want to let go, you have to let go of everything.
You're not just letting go of material things.
You have to let go of your parents.
You have to let go of your relationships.
It doesn't mean that you forget about them, but it means like just don't be attached, you know?
And it's a journey on fixing yourself.
Like you have to fix your relationship with money, with your mom, with whatever it is that's causing you issues.
And letting go completely is how you align with a flow of a higher power that just sends things in your life.
Like I went to Iran.
You saw the Iran vlog.
No internet, nothing.
I knew nobody.
There was no way to communicate with anybody.
God sent me in each of the vlogs a singular person that took care of me the whole time.
Was able to get me everything I needed.
Just along the path, they would come and then they would become my friend and they would travel with me.
And they were local Iranians that were helping me each different place.
And it was like, I couldn't have scripted it.
It was like I just walk into the store and the store that I walk into is the one guy that speaks English.
And I'm not going to let go of this guy.
I'm going to pay his boss $100.
Give me him for a day.
I need him for my content.
Okay, now I got a guy that speaks English that can take me around.
So I'm not just a foreign guy speaking English in a time where Americans are fucked.
Worst time.
Wow.
So, okay.
And for those of you that, some, some of you idiots are saying this is fake, guys.
This is 100% real.
We had spoken on WhatsApp.
I spoke with Sneeko about this.
It was 100% he got kidnapped, bro.
That's a really good comment.
He said, sounds like a DMT trip experience, ego death almost.
It was.
It was the first time I experienced what they call ego death.
I realized that there is a bigger force.
I mean, there's so many other supernatural things that happen, but I've talked about them way more.
Like, there's other things we can chat about.
But that's what it was.
It was like, okay, I'm not alone.
Like, I know God worked through all this.
I saw so many different things that proved it to me.
And so that's what it, that's what it felt like.
It was like an ego death.
I was like, okay, now I'm obsessed.
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Even you were talking on WhatsApp about this too.
Now that, like, I'm getting like, like, I'm starting to remember, like, hey, very serious, blah, blah, blah.
Bro, it was not fake, guys.
Like, it's, bro, it was literally like very dangerous.
But sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, and it's like you realize that like there's a lot more to the world than just you.
And there's a power that can help you.
Like, just as this guy sold his soul to the devil, this warlord, for earthly things, you can, I don't want to say sell your soul, but sell your soul to a higher purpose that helps the world.
And in doing so, God blesses you with gifts and people from different angles that you would have never expected.
And so the game stopped being about content and views and about figuring out what this force is and how to maximize the output for the world.
Did it make you a better creator?
So much better, I think.
I'm no longer like just trying to clip farm.
I'm actually trying to provide value with these places that I go and change the world to a more human to understand that like we're all just human.
Like I don't care what your race is.
I don't care what his race is.
Yeah, I might crack racist jokes, but I don't actually care when it comes down to it.
If you're treating me right, then we can move mountains together across the world.
So okay, so you're there day 12.
So what was the negotiation for how much and how did that go with that exchange?
So I'm asking cop questions, but we got to get the details here.
Day one, day one, or day 11 when we paid was 31,000 US dollars.
Holy shit.
So they took that and then they asked for more.
Fuck.
So then from day 11 to 17, we were able to get 7, 8k more.
And then they eventually let me out.
They had told me they had promised me.
Well, did me a favor, 40K.
It was 31K plus 3.3 million Haitian gourds, I think.
What that's plus 2,000 or 3,000 US dollars extra.
Okay.
I'm trying to figure out Haitian money, how much like I think it's going to be.
That might be like 16 million Haitian gourds.
16 million Haitian gourds?
I think so.
What could that buy, Moe?
I think it's like 13 to 14 at the time.
Maybe it's probably 16 now.
That's like a couple thousand if I remember.
Like, look at 41k to Haitian gourds.
What the helly?
So that can buy?
They probably spent it all on weapons.
That's not true.
I was gonna say, I was gonna say, they probably spent, like, they bought a few AKs and some bullets.
They run out of bullets a lot.
They go to war with other guys.
So, like, what?
Um, one Haitian, one U.S. dollar is 131 Haitian gourd, but but what can you buy with that with that amount?
Like, that 41k U.S. like, what can you buy with that in Haiti, Mo?
Can you buy like a fucking farm, like a big ass like that?
So much.
Yeah, you can you can buy way more.
It's going straight to American bullets for sure.
They're talking acres for sure.
You're talking acres.
All right, fair enough.
Okay, so you were there at day 12, and then that after they took that extra money, it took you a couple more days, get more money, gave them roughly, you know, 40, let's say 40,000, just to keep it simple.
What was the last few days?
Was it you more negotiating with them more?
Was it like...
No, at that point, like, they keep telling you you're getting out tomorrow.
You're getting out tomorrow.
You're getting out tomorrow.
After they take the 11K, they keep us in there.
The news gets out.
That's when it's like, okay, they're not really releasing us.
Now it's time.
So they took 11K first.
Oh, sorry.
Not 11K.
Day 11.
Day 11, 31K.
Okay.
They go.
Our guy who was helping us in Haiti, he goes, I'm just going to put it on the news.
I paid a little journalist.
He put it on the news the exact story that happened.
Next day they come.
They start panicking.
Now it's public.
Now it's just a little bit public.
Day 11.
Like a few thousand people have seen it.
And now the blame is not on us.
It's on this journalist that figured it out.
Sean texts all the news stations.
They're good.
I text Sneeko.
I'm like, Sneeko, it's time.
Like when they would give my phone, hey, I'm talking to my parents.
I'm like fucking chatting with Sneeko.
Sneeko's in like Medina with Warner.
And I'm like, I remember.
I'm like fucking going back and forth.
I'm like, bro, we're in here.
Like, what am I supposed to do?
You know?
I'm like, okay, please release it.
What day did we?
Do you remember what day we spoke?
Because I remember we spoke on WhatsApp briefly as well.
I think I was just coming back.
So people messaged me while you're still being held.
I'm trying to figure out what day you were being held that.
Maybe, yeah, maybe I did.
I'm not so sure.
I came back and they stole my phone.
Because the thing I remember vividly is it's Arab.
I'm in Haiti.
I'm not kidding around.
Like, I'm being held.
And I was like, what?
And then I texted.
I remember talking to Sneeko and said, yo, is this real?
And he was like, yes.
And I was like, okay, I'm going to go contact my friend.
And then you got out.
So you got to get out of here.
There's about five days between the news and getting out.
There was five days.
Yeah, you hit me up towards the end of that, I think.
Or maybe I don't know.
There was five days.
There was like a global boom.
And then we got out.
It was just like, it happened so quick.
Like, what was the final straw, I guess?
Like, did they want, do you think they wanted to release you the whole time and they were trying to find logistics?
No, no, they don't need logistics.
They own the area.
They just drop you off in an area that's like right outside where they or where they own and they let you go through safely.
Like you, they just let you go.
But who, like, what do they have to have?
Well, when I say coordination, I don't mean as in like letting you go.
No, no, they take the money first.
There's no coordination.
Of course, I mean, like, how are they going to coordinate?
Like, someone, someone's got to come get you.
Oh, my brother was.
That's what I meant.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
My brother's handling everybody outside.
Gotcha.
I had nothing.
So all you had to do.
I don't know who to talk to.
I'm like, I fucking beered this big.
I don't even know where I am, bro.
No, no, no, of course.
What I'm saying is, like, when I say the coordinating stuff, I mean as in, like, I'm assuming maybe they were negotiating with someone from the U.S. or whatever.
No, no, no, they weren't.
The U.S. was so useless.
They would not give my brother everything as far as like, once they got, they just took you to an extraction location.
That's it.
Bro, we had a Lebanese guy in the country pay the ransom up front for us without getting any money in his hand.
Just a rich Lebanese guy that did it for us.
Wow, shit.
Yeah, so that was really cool.
He was a random guy, didn't know us.
So that was really cool.
That was the power of humanity.
Yeah.
And he lives in Haiti.
Yeah, yeah.
He's just a, he's a wealthy Lebanese guy in Haiti.
W networking.
They've tried to kidnap him so many times.
Oh, he's like, oh, I've done this before.
No, yeah.
He's as normal for him.
He's like, they tried, my security guards tried to kidnap me once.
I shot both of them.
I took their gun.
I shot both of them.
Chased them, chased the third one.
He's still living in Port-au-Prince.
He goes back and forth.
Port-au-Prince.
He deals with a lot of these sketchy countries.
The fuck?
Is he like Hezbollah or some shit?
No.
No, he's not.
He's just like a guy who wants to make money who's Lebanese.
Lebanese become pretty successful all over the world.
No, I know.
I know.
Yeah.
They're like Jews, but we just don't look at you guys as goi.
Hurrah!
Okay, so you, so you got out.
What was that like that first day?
What was the first thing you ate when you got back?
Bro, I got back and I just like.
Where did they take you to?
I went to helicopter.
No, no.
No, we didn't get on a helicopter.
I was getting out of the U.S. or out of Haiti to the U.S.
Oh, you took a helicopter from Haiti to the United States?
I took a helicopter from the Port-au-Prince to Cap Haitian, and then they take a plane.
Okay, okay.
So it's like a whole extraction.
That's scary.
I was about to say helicopter.
I was like, okay.
Yeah.
No, first thing I get out, I end up in like a hotel, like the Lebanon that puts me in a hotel.
That's a nice area, yeah.
Bro, and I just like sit in the AC.
I'm like calling all my family and my friends.
And then I'm like, I want to see what the internet's saying.
And then the internet is like, they're all calling it fake.
That's got to be horrible.
And I look at my WhatsApp and I.
I look at my WhatsApp and I have 500 messages.
Every friend from high school, every girl I've ever talked to, every single person.
I was love, though.
Bro, even girls that had rejected me before.
I'm like, oh, what's this out?
I'm like, what?
Not that stranger von?
Like, you want to come back?
Mystery factor.
So it was funny.
And then, like, I'm looking at all these comments.
They have like 10,000 likes saying it's fake.
I know the guy.
He would do anything.
It's just like, it wasn't what I expected.
I'm like, I come out and there's just so much hatred.
And that's where it stopped mattering.
I was like, oh, all of this attention is bullshit.
Like, none of it actually matters.
The people that matter are like, okay, I experienced it.
I don't care what these people think.
I have to figure out what to learn from this.
Now I have to see how my family is going to cope with it.
How's this going to change the whole dynamic?
Plus, I still have to get out the country.
Like, these guys are calling it fake.
I'm still trying to get evacuated out.
Yeah.
So then I get on a helicopter.
I could tell you guys it was fucking real.
Like, you guys in the chest saying it's fake or the dude is 100%.
I've become so grateful for life ever since.
So I've started seeing everything with appreciation.
I've worked on my perspective of seeing things.
I don't look at anything with a hatred, a clip farm anymore.
It's all about, like, even I had to forgive the guy that kidnapped me.
Like, I would love to sit and have a dinner with him and show him.
Like, yo, there's more to life than these fucking shitty paper bills.
Like, you could be making contact with him?
I don't have a contact with him, but I could get in contact with him.
Yeah, like, I could hit him with a banger.
I could hit up my face.
Did you go back, though?
Not for my family.
If it wasn't for my family, I would.
Like, I'm not afraid of it.
I think it would be cordial.
I don't think he'd kidnap me again.
Probably not.
I think I'd be able to go in and like have a chat with him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it'd be on.
Yeah, exactly.
You come in with like some nice stuff that they can't access there, whether it's like super nice Cuban cigars in like a gold plated.
Like, you know how it's gifts.
You bring gifts to the land.
It's exactly that.
Like, you bring gifts to the land.
Whether the guy's kidnapping you or not, you should bring gifts to the land.
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Yeah.
When you go to this guy's house, bring gifts to the land.
When you go, like, take care of people.
Yeah.
You should bring him Osmo.
Yeah, so you can start vlogging.
They do vlogs, bro.
They post on TikTok.
They have Haitian clout.
Ask him.
Really?
Yeah, they got Haitian clout, bro.
Because people in the country want to know what these guys are doing.
So they flex like money.
Some of the warlords are rappers.
There's one of the warlords that's a rapper.
So why aren't they arrested?
There's no police.
The police are all corrupt.
It's like you can't even imagine.
It's like a walking dead zombie land.
Got you.
Well, I'm glad you're safe, man.
That is a crazy story.
Like, I feel most people would have been like, oh, I'm giving up.
You didn't give up at all.
You can't give up, bro.
Yeah.
Like, there's so much more to do in the world.
Yeah.
You know, I know my potential, so I don't want to stop.
And then, like, how much of it goes to waste if I quit?
I don't build my platform to be larger so that more people can hear this message.
You know, like, we're talking about letting go and detachment now.
That's not a value you learn in the West.
Yeah, it's not.
They don't teach us that.
So, like, you only learn that by traveling, by talking to people who have gone and explored other knowledges outside of.
Can you tell the audience the value of traveling and what most Americans stuck in America can't ever really experience real life?
Because this is like a Matrix psyop where like you're told to go to school, get a degree, work a job, be in debt till you die, by the way.
It's such a slavery.
It's a 1041k.
Hopefully by then, but it's gonna be too late.
Even like insurance, insurance is.
It's a scam.
It's a scam.
It's like, okay, you're paying this much a month.
And then when it comes time for them to pay their part, they're asking for all the documents that don't even exist.
They don't want to pay you.
Hire lawyers so they don't pay.
They're going to give you four times the amount of bullshit to make you just keep going.
So it's all, you realize it's all a scam.
Like even money itself, it's like there's no difference between a dollar and a Brazilian real.
Like, yeah, you need five Brazilian reals for a dollar, but you can just exchange it.
And somebody takes a little fee and now it's still money.
Still money.
So like all the money's the same.
All the crypto is the same.
You know what it relates as well?
This is a little secret here, guys.
I was into cars.
I had a car business.
I did okay.
Then it didn't do so good.
And with cars itself, right?
The dealerships, they know what they're doing.
They sell people cars.
They know what they can't afford on credit and loans.
They have an insurance policy on the loan.
If the loan doesn't go through, you default on the loan.
They get the car back, resell it, and they get money from the insurance policy for that loan.
So it's all trading fake money.
And the dealerships, they're repos.
Repo lots.
They sprint the car back.
Oh, you can't pay it.
We'll either sue you in court and get the money anyway.
I said, just sell a car to somebody else.
It's like a fucking finesse.
It's all a finesse.
So you got to either buy cars cash or get a huge discount.
But even then.
That's part of why I try to own as little as possible.
It's better.
And then also living in the present moment.
Like I'm not super worried about the next month.
I know that, okay, just as God can send people in your life and gifts from here and there, you can also send money.
It's just, it's just a fucking, it's a tool to help you get to the next step.
So I think if you're using your money in a proper way to build things that are with purpose and provide value, you end up making a lot more and you end up better off as well.
The Car Loan Finesse00:11:04
That's a good point.
And then travel for people.
Why should they travel?
Travel.
Oh, travel is so important because travel forces you into a perspective you would have never even imagined.
So I've been to 80 countries.
In those 80 countries, I've seen the poorest and the richest.
I go both ways.
I'll go to the most luxury villas and penthouses and I'll also go to the slums and I'll see the whole country from all its angles.
And I'm still so mind blown every time I go to a new country.
Like I realize how small I am and how little my knowledge is of the world.
Like I might have a lot of ability to understand how to get through these places, but when I go to a new country, how much am I, I mean, I learned, I go to Brazil.
I learned Portuguese.
I learned the culture.
I learned how these people communicate with a different style of communication than we do in America.
I learned how these people help each other.
I learned the different food styles, the culinary experiences.
So many things that just shift your perspective and force you to be humbled.
And you can only get that by traveling because all those countries exist at the very moment.
While we're sitting here on this podcast, there's a Hong Kong crackden that I filmed where 30 people are in a room this size doing opium and fentanyl and different right now.
Right now, they're in an apartment.
There's a slum in Kenya and they're living right now struggling for their next food.
So all these different lives are happening at the very moment.
They're not like a thing in the past.
And I think something we do as U.S. citizens, we get caught in this news cycle.
Okay, this country got bombed a day ago.
Bro, that country is still getting bombed right now.
Like there's still 10,000 people in a military room clicking missiles at the very moment.
So if these people are directing their attention to war, how much chaos does that bring into their own lives?
Like how much destruction are they seeing, et cetera?
So I think it's really important to travel so you could see that all these perspectives exist at the very moment.
And in doing so, you end up living in a presence that gives you so much more awareness of everything around you.
And it just multiplies everything in your life by so much.
By so much.
Yeah, living here in America taught me a lot for sure.
But it also showed that most things that we do is by what we see online.
And it's all like a parade.
It is a parade.
Oh, we'll do this.
But why are we doing this?
Yeah.
Like, so, yeah, you're right, bro.
Travel is very important.
My YouTube guys, we're moving over to Fresh and Fit.
So we're doing that right now.
My YouTube, we're moving over to Fresh and Fit.
If you guys want to watch on Kick, you can.
But we're moving my YouTube over to Fresh and Fit.
I'm ending my YouTube stream here.
Don't worry.
The interview is still going to keep going, though.
But I'm just moving my YouTube people over to here.
Cool.
Okay, where were we?
We just finished the story.
Let's go to Afghanistan.
I got to ask you.
Oh, my God.
I love Afghanistan.
I'll talk about Afghanistan.
Yeah, yeah.
So take us through how the Afghanistan trip.
First of all, before we start, like, what's your opinion of the Taliban as an American homeland security Fed?
Well, obviously, you know, you're going to look at the paramilitary version of it and be like, oh, yeah, these guys are insurgents that blah, blah, blah.
You know, very resilient.
Obviously, we took over Afghanistan and then they took it back when he pulled out the way that we pulled out, which was a huge L.
But they're very resilient people.
They know the landscape.
They obviously, you know, this is a big reason why they don't want to invade Iran right now is because they understand that that landscape of Afghanistan is very good with it.
Persians are clever.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
So that landscape that we barely were able to deal with in Afghanistan is going to be 10 times worse with the Zagros Mountains.
So, I mean, man, these guys are like fucking farmers, dude.
Bro, they were farmers.
That's what I felt.
These guys, these guys are like, and the thing is, it's like Green Beret, Navy SEALs, like they were like fighting these guys in the mountains, and they still had a hard time.
And these dudes are just, they're just fucking farmers.
They use an AK-47 for World War II, some surplus weaponry, and they got goats and sheep and that stuff.
Bro, and I realized you cannot win.
No, they're not ill-equipped.
They don't got nothing.
They got nothing to lose.
And that too.
But the environment is what made it so dangerous, is what I'm trying to say.
Afghanistan is like, as an invader, it's very difficult to maintain.
The Russians tried in the 80s with Bin Laden.
They lost.
We went in there.
It was too hard to maintain.
We left.
The Taliban took over right away.
Bro, like, who do you think is better at hiking mountains?
A shepherd or you?
Oh, for sure, not me.
So, like, so imagine, like, a shepherd picks up some fucking weapons and starts shooting at invaders.
Like, he knows the terrain better.
You might have all this info.
You might be able to drop a missile on his head.
Yeah.
Okay.
But, like, there's so many of them that are willing to pick up for their country and defend their values.
So like, what, you think they're just going to say, oh, yeah, let's hop over to America?
No.
So Afghanistan was a crazy place because I don't think you can win as America.
I don't think you can win in Afghanistan.
The reason being, you can just kill more people, but you can't win.
You can't remove that ideology.
So the only way towards peace is to understand their tribalistic culture.
The only way towards peace is Donald Trump to sit with the leader of the Taliban and eat rice with his hands.
That's how you get peace between America and Afghanistan.
Wow.
Because then that guy looks at you like, oh, he's actually trying to understand me.
Not just kill me.
Not just kill me.
So that shifts everything.
You can't kill them.
I'll tell you why, because they actually believe they're fighting for God.
Oh, yeah.
At that point, it's kind of like that belief is so strong.
You can't beat that.
Bro, I had a general look at me.
He said, they cannot stop us.
Emrika, even if they have an atomic bomb, we are fighting for Allah, so they will not win.
You can bomb the country and they will still come out as the Taliban.
So I think because we live in such a attention economy where everyone can go around vlogging the world with their phone, we're at the point where we've seen enough and it's no longer controlled propaganda.
There's so many different angles to see.
Oh, yeah, you can't, yeah, you can't.
Yeah.
So people are starting to see the humanity in it all.
They're starting to see the actual, yeah, the ability for you to go and sit with somebody in Syria who's part of the military and be invited to dinner at his house.
Yeah.
As a human, not as an American or as a Syrian, as a human.
So when you go into the world with that perspective, everything becomes open.
It's a global access.
Shit just opens for me, bro.
Like Iran.
Yep.
I go to Iran.
There's no flights in the country.
I was going to ask about Afghanistan some more.
Oh, yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
So you're there with the Taliban.
And these guys are farmers.
These guys are herders.
A lot of Americans don't know this.
But obviously they're going to fight to protect their land, et cetera.
And what kind of, what did they have when you were there?
Like AK-47s and stuff like that?
Probably World War II weaponry?
They had different weapons.
They had some M4s.
They had some American M4s.
Yeah, well, actually, they had it from the Mujahideen.
What are the thoughts on Bin Laden?
Their thoughts?
Yeah.
I didn't ask too much about Bin Laden, but I think they like him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, he's a guy who protected their land.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then what were their thoughts on, I missed the thing about America.
What were their thoughts on America?
America would never take Afghanistan?
Yeah, it's like I had this chat with one of these big generals.
His hand was the size of my face.
Like this guy was maybe twice my face.
Like this guy had the biggest hand I've ever seen.
If he smacked me, I was dead.
Yeah.
Okay.
And he looks at me and this is a clip.
It went pretty viral.
He goes, even the atomic bomb cannot stop us because we are fighting for Allah.
He said, Obama, Bush, Trump.
He said, even the atomic bomb will not stop us because we are fighting for the sake of Allah.
And I was like, in that moment, I'm like, like, you could nuke this place.
Yeah, yeah.
And all you do is kill more people.
Yeah.
So the only way for peace is for Donald Trump to go sit with the leader and eat rice with his hands.
And I think that would be such a culturally beautiful moment that would establish an ability for global presence.
But obviously that doesn't work because of the lobby and the global expansion.
Yeah, of course.
The deep political bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Afghanistan, we shouldn't have been there in the first place, honestly.
It was stupid.
I think people are waking up to the war in terror was a scam.
A lot of it was.
Where there were some military operations that were needed here and there, of course.
But the full-on occupation of Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, people are getting red-pilled on this topic, like more so now than ever before.
There's no point in the war.
There's really no point.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe there's a geopolitical point.
I just don't know.
For America, none.
I can say that confidently now.
Like, even people that went and served, you know, there was a guy, Army Ranger.
He actually was in Afghanistan.
Funny enough, Army Rangers.
His name is Nick Irving.
They call him the Reaper.
He was a sniper.
And he was saying, I went to Afghanistan.
We fought.
My friends died.
I saw people die in front of me.
And then when I came back home, people died from, you know, super exactly that word.
Okay.
From the trauma.
No, you're good.
You're good.
From the trauma, right?
And he was like, and then just to come back later and the Taliban take it back.
And he was like, why were we there?
It's like, you suffered all this, and then they take it back anyway.
Like, for what, bro?
For what?
For what?
And it's like to show that we have missiles in the sky.
It's foolish.
It was foolish.
It was completely unnecessary, not needed.
He wasn't even, Osama wasn't even there, right?
He wasn't there for a long time.
To prove what point?
Stupid.
It's stupid.
The whole war on terror, bro.
A lot of it was a scam.
And I think people are waking up to it now.
And then you got like people that literally were fighting on the front lines with.
And remember, these were classified.
A lot of these operations were super classified that he was involved in.
And he's even like, yeah, what are we doing here?
And then a guy that was the number two over at the basically under Tulsi Gabbert, who's she's that runs all the intelligence.
He came out and said, yeah, like we didn't have any real intelligence on like Iran being a threat and a nuclear bomb.
And it's like, he just came out today.
He's on Tucker Costa talking about it today.
And it's like, dude, like, just, you know, and he's like, and he said it straight up, yeah, we went because there's no winners in war.
And Dennis Scott Ritter mentioned as well, Scott Ritter.
Yeah, There's no winners in war.
Yeah, there's none really.
No.
Only the multi-industrial complex.
The elite.
The elite.
In that way, yeah.
But they're not winning.
They're really blackening their soul, which is an aspect of the human that most people don't focus on.
And that creates a lot of negative things that happen in their life that you might not see.
So I just don't think that there's any winners in war.
Yeah, true.
Yehud.
Yeah, Yahood.
No Winners in War00:14:47
I love all people.
Yeah, it's fine.
Niggas know what we say.
Okay, what we're going to say here.
Leave some chats here.
Chats, we can read some chats.
And then while we pull up the chats, I ran.
Oh, my God.
Iran was crazy.
Yeah, I like that vlog.
I ran.
Which one did you watch?
The one with the two million views?
The one, I think that was the one I watched.
You basically let the guy use your Wi-Fi and then became your buddy.
Yes.
And Nasrala.
You were basically Nasrallah.
Oh, my God.
That was so funny.
That was like, I packed two t-shirts for the trip.
It was just supposed to be a quick in-and-out trip.
I had a little bag.
I didn't overpack.
You went.
When did you go in January?
I went January 12th.
The worst time to go.
The date.
Like two days after the massacre.
I was on.
I already started planning the day after the massacre.
I didn't even know about the massacre.
I don't read the news.
I don't look at any of that.
But the same day, somebody cancels my trip.
I had like a trip to Santa Barbara and somebody delays it seven days.
And then I meet 10 Iranians at this event that I'm speaking at.
And they start telling me about Iran.
And I was like, I go to my room alone later.
And I'm sitting at night.
I'm like, for some reason it feels like you want me to go to Iran, God.
Like, is that – and I feel this force, like this presence that you can't really describe other than God.
You just know it is.
I'm like, all right, that means I'm going to be safe.
So that's how I roll, basically.
So when, especially when it's these dangerous ones, I sit alone and I just listen and then I get approval.
If it's a sign or something, whatever, whether I'm good or not to go.
And Iran, God said, yeah, you're good.
I'm sending you to Iran.
You didn't get a visa or anything, right?
No visa.
I have a Lebanese passport as well.
That's what I was going to say.
Okay.
And the internet's down.
Keep in mind, the internet's down.
The internet's down at this point.
So I pull up to Turkey.
It's the least secure border of Vaughan, Turkey.
I get in there.
The guy in the bus to Iran asked me for Wi-Fi.
We become friends.
Thank God he's with me because if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have been able to communicate with the other guy.
Here's the thing.
Like, they don't speak Arabic there.
They don't.
So that was.
They don't speak Arabic.
Yeah.
So I have no way to communicate it except for this guy that barely speaks English.
Because some people might be like, oh, was it that bad?
Like, you're Arab, right?
Iranians are not Arabs, bro.
Like, there's some Arabs that live there, but they're not.
That's not their language.
It's Farsi.
I'll tell you the way it works.
When you start living in extreme presence in the moment, my bag breaks.
I have this bag.
You saw I came in.
It's on my waist.
It's where I put my camera gear.
It's open.
I never hide anything when I go to these countries.
So that's just like my way of saying I'm not a spy.
You know, like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a real fear of theirs.
Like, look, it's here.
It's on my waist.
Like, I'm not hiding it.
Point is, an hour before the border, my bag breaks.
I've been using this bag for a year and a half.
I took it to the Taliban.
I took it to Haiti.
I took it everywhere.
And it's the same bag.
I bought a new one.
Okay.
The other one broke.
I had luckily packed my fanny pack.
So I moved my cameras to my fanny pack.
I get to the border.
I'm crossing the border.
The two military guys search my bag.
They pat me down, shoulders.
They pat my legs.
They pat my waist.
And they miss every part of my waist.
Or they pat every part of my waist except for the right side where I put the fanny pack under my sweater.
So it's like an hour before my bag broke.
I could have looked with a perspective like, fuck.
But instead, I said, okay, I have another bag.
I'm chilling.
I'm still okay.
I get in.
I'm not accepting the shit.
You don't think they would have let you with a camera?
No chance.
No chance.
They would have gone a deeper search.
If they saw a camera, they would have looked for my passport.
They would have found my American passport, which was on me.
Did someone tell you this?
That, like, don't even bother coming in with a camera?
Like, don't let them catch you with the camera.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just like an obvious thing, too.
It's like they're going to war with America and Israel.
But you're Lebanese.
But the camera, you know what Yusuf told me in the Taliban?
He said, he said, no, no, Yusuf's not from the Taliban, but Yusuf is the one who took me.
Okay.
He told me, he said, a camera is the most dangerous weapon in this country.
And Iran.
In Afghanistan.
So I've held that in my head in these countries that are more militarily focused.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Well, I guess in a time of peace would have been fine.
But at that time, yeah, it'd be bad.
So it's like you can either choose to see it as luck or miracles.
I choose to see it as miracles, and that affects things in my life in very positive ways.
So I saw that as a miracle.
I was like, in my head, okay, God sent me here.
I'm going to be safe, but it's going to be very close the whole time.
So just have faith.
Because that was very close.
The border was very close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then I get.
Was it Artesh or IRGC?
Yeah.
It was like big ass fucking like seven-foot jacked military members.
I don't know.
They were scary.
They were just huge, bro.
Okay.
How tall were they?
They were like probably like realistically 6'5 ⁇ .
I don't know.
They were just big.
So then I get in and then I scan my passport and the guy looks at me.
He goes, where's your visa?
I was like, well, the guy has no internet.
So I'm like, Google says no visa, Lebanese.
Yeah.
So then he takes me into like.
You told him that in English or how'd you tell him that?
Yeah, I said Google no visa.
Okay, bro.
Yeah, like you, you, you get on a little lower level.
Yeah.
Google Visa, no.
You know, internet, whatever.
Like, you say a few words.
Yeah.
And then he takes me into the like the main guy's office and the main guy's busy like stamping shit.
He looks at me.
I say dust.
I just learned the word friend.
So dust, I always learn the word friend before I go somewhere.
It helps with everything.
I was like, dust.
Such a word.
Durist.
He's like, okay, good.
Go ahead.
So then I get through.
And I end up in the country, bro.
And the rest of the time, it was just like making it journey.
They grilled me when I got to Tabriz.
Tabriz is like this very ancient city in Iran.
And at the time, there was protests, right?
The protests were fresh.
So they had military.
Who was that from Tehran?
Five to eight hours driving.
Okay.
There was protests over there, too.
All over.
Yeah, actually, it was all over.
All over.
You're right.
And so me walking around with the camera.
Okay, so at this point, you got the camera out.
Oh, yeah.
This is like the second city.
So this is my second.
This is like still the end of the first vlog.
I'm walking through the city and I see all these military vehicles and I know not to film them.
If they catch me with me filming any of these, I'm fucked.
So like you can't film them.
Zero footage allowed because they came through and they scan everything.
And you always have to be protective of what you're actually capturing and aware of it.
You have to be conscious of what you're capturing.
So what happened is at the main intersections, they had so many military vehicles, all different branches, bro.
They were all wearing different uniforms.
One guy in gray camo, one guy in like a blue fit, one guy in green camo.
Just different.
You could tell they had deployed.
And it was all around the main intersections.
But what I did.
This is in Tabriz.
Tabriz, no.
Okay.
This is more protected than Tehran.
Because the historical value.
Yeah, some historical value that I learned about Africa.
It's one of the oldest culture.
And it's where the protests actually start.
It's where previous years they've tried to protest and overthrown previous regimes in this place.
So it holds a lot of value.
I didn't know when I was there.
But that's like the most secure.
And that's where they put all the intelligence is in Tabriz.
So I had no fucking idea, bro.
I'm just out here like vlogging a Hitler book in the bookstore.
I'm trying to eat street food.
I'm trying to get a vlog.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
With the intensity of Iran happening behind me.
And real quick, so the audience understands why it was like this.
At the time, guys, there were protests.
Their dollar crashed.
The U.S. crashed the dollar, the Riyal.
So your dollar probably did pretty well while you were there.
So well.
You were probably able to buy anything you wanted.
So yeah, the Riyal had crashed, and there were protests all over it.
But there was Israeli and American assets there that were like, you know, obviously conducting metaglasses next year.
Sabotaging.
That's how you end up in jail and executed.
Meta glasses?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's spy glasses.
Yeah, they are.
In that country, that's a spy glass.
Over here, that's normal.
That's like, yo, I'm vlogging Brickle Avenue.
No, in Iran, that's a spy gear.
Yeah.
So you can't do that.
Yeah, and they would look at you like, yeah, it's easy to get caught with space.
Dude, you can't even have a Starlink in our NRN.
That's considered espionage.
Yeah.
Which is, you get hung for that.
Bro, they searched my phone.
They searched my cameras.
It was like, it felt like someone was mugging me.
Yeah.
Like I'm just walking in the street.
Seven guys, like I turn around, I hear footsteps.
And then as soon as I look at them, they swarm.
Yeah.
And then this is why they were paranoid, guys, because this is right after the protest.
They knew that there was foreign interference.
They shut the internet off.
People were trying to smuggle in Starlink.
So they were being paranoid.
And not only was there just foreign interference, there was people trying to organize more protests.
So if you're filming where the police are, that gives you the ability to show where you can protect.
They did catch Mossad operators actually doing it.
I'm sure they did.
Yeah.
I'm sure they did.
What I didn't realize is they had secret service on the outskirts of the intersection.
So I would film.
I really pushed the limits.
Like, as soon as I get away.
Say secret service.
What do you mean by that?
People dressed as civilians.
Oh, okay.
Undercover.
Play close.
Play close.
Yeah.
Okay.
So like dressed as civilians next to the food stand, next to the shop.
And didn't like seven of them run up to you?
Bro, seven of them pulled up on me.
They fucking searched me.
They start asking questions.
Why do you speak such good English?
I'm like, I mean, that's like the most important language in the world.
Like, I'm a traveler.
Like, you didn't disclose your American, right?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
That's better, huh?
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm Lebanese.
They're like, where's your passport?
I'm like, it's at the hotel.
It's policy in Iran.
You have to keep the passport at the hotel.
That's a law.
Really?
So it saved me.
Why is that?
It saved me because then they couldn't look through like my info actually deeply.
And I didn't want to show them a photo.
They said, do you have a photo of it?
No, because in my phone, my Lebanese and my American passport are right next to each other in my ID folder.
Dude, so I'm like, if I pull this up, they're going to see this.
And then I'm let me ask you this.
If they could have just taken your phone, why did they take your phone?
They did.
They searched through it.
Oh, okay.
They searched through the photos.
They saw pictures of me and my niece.
They saw me doing normal people things.
They didn't see any pictures of you in America.
I don't really have.
Me and I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, like Brooklyn, whatever.
I'm a tourist.
Like, I went to America to the Brooklyn Bridge, you know?
So if they knew you were an American, what do you think would have happened, dude?
I think I would have been cooked because then it would have been like, okay, you're lying that you're just Lebanese.
You know, you didn't tell us.
You're filming.
You have spy gear.
Then they're going to take me in.
They're going to check.
But going back to that conversation.
I don't think you could get executed.
I never assume.
I never assume the bad scenario.
While I'm standing in front of them, fully detached, let go of the situation.
I understand why they're coming at me.
Yeah.
Now let me just talk my way out of it.
100%.
I assume that I'm going to get out of this.
There might be little bits where like fear tries to take over, but you just don't let it.
I'm sure you've been in situations.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Yeah, of course.
So you assume the best case scenario, and then eventually they let us go.
The hotel I was staying at was like the nicest hotel in the city.
So that helped.
That's like, oh, like, you know, he's paying.
He's a tourist.
He's.
So it worked out.
It was, but it was very scary.
It set the tone for the rest of the trip.
You're far more careful.
Yeah.
Like, I can't go near this government building and film.
I can't go near this.
I'm going to, like, if this footage I'm going to film, it has to be at a time where the streets are empty and nobody's around.
These kind of things.
Yeah.
And you went at like the worst time to go.
Like, my buddy's there.
He went there.
His name is Ahmed Propaganda Co.
He's there now.
He went to go visit.
And I was like, dude, you're fucking crazy.
You're going there in a time of war.
But he went there as a journalist.
And a bunch of Western journalists went.
Oh, really?
A bunch of Western journalists.
Yeah.
But they got special visas.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
I never go in as a journalist.
I go in as just a vlogger.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Dude, go in as a journalist, bro.
I don't want a little bit of protection.
No, I have protection.
Oh, okay, fair.
God protects me.
Yeah, very, very avidly.
It's real stuff.
I mean, I believe it.
But it does give you a little bit more, you know.
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
No, I think then you're watched more.
Then you have less freedom.
Then they're like, who are these guys?
Pay attention to them.
Because I'm going in.
I'm not just there to capture a warfare.
I'm there to also capture the culture and the hearts of the people.
Of course, yeah.
You know, like I come back, my Persian barber is like, what the fuck, bro?
I haven't been back in 15 years.
How you have the balls to go to my city to breeze?
You know, it's crazy there.
Like, that's what it's for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
That's very brave.
Chats, right?
Yeah, chats in the outdoors.
Yeah, yeah.
Then we got, yeah, because we got the girls here.
We're going to probably do Punisher.
We're going to switch over.
Arab looks like your experience in Afghanistan.
It was a lot better than mine.
Last time I was there, I was getting shot quite often.
You're funny, bro.
Yeah, he was in the military.
He was there.
Shut up, Punisher.
Jason Gersh says, Chose the port WSS 300.
Chill, Jason.
Boys, Lebanese women are baddies.
Not gonna lie.
The question is, are they 304s?
There's many.
A lot of them are.
There's many, bro.
Wait, worse than many.
Worst than Moroccans?
No.
No, no, no.
Cut the line.
Cut the line, bro.
Yeah.
They're the two worst.
Okay.
In Arab world.
In the Arab world.
Really?
For being 304s.
You think Lebanese?
He's asking for being 304s.
Not hotness.
Just like being, you know, some Moroccans.
What about like Saudis?
I mean, Saudi girls are wild, bro.
But you got to get them out of Saudi.
Yeah.
If you get them out of Saudi, then yeah.
But Saudi, if they're there...
What about Iran?
No, no, no.
I definitely didn't have any in Saudi.
Are they baddies?
They're baddies, but like the shy sluts.
Yeah, they're baddies.
They got to be like the girls that like their dad was exiled because he was like a shy employee or he worked for Savek or some shit.
And then he gets like, hey, I hate the Islamic Revolution.
Ah, like those guys, like the Iranians that live in America, like the Patrick Bet David types.
There were some baddies.
Yeah.
Those are the hot ones.
The rich ones.
Those are the hot ones.
Yeah.
I saw some of my ex ones.
Or the rich ones that were baddies.
Or the riches.
I saw some of my ex was like, damn, man, you go over there.
I don't indito, but yeah.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
They say all the time, like, oh, the women like have to dress up, whatever.
Bro, they walk around with their hair out.
They walk out with their hair out.
Oh, that's not a lie.
That's a big lie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a big Western lie propaganda that like they do try to enforce it.
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Like the government tries, but you know, you know, people.
Yeah.
Like they'll get you out of it.
Yeah.
So, but yeah, the women walk around with, oh, it's pretty.
Yeah.
But yeah, yeah, Moroccans and Lebanese are 304s.
W Air, if this club was long overdue, how was it like hanging out with the Cartel Sicarios?
That was the scariest moment of my life, actually.
Really?
Being with the Sicarios.
They were so ruthless.
They have no value for life.
Like, being with the Taliban was 10 times safer.
Maybe 100 times.
Well, for them, because to them, they look at it like, you know, we're here for a lot.
We're doing our land.
It's different.
It's like a tribe.
They're religious, yeah.
They're a tribe.
They're defending their land.
They look at it like that.
But these guys are like, I kill for money.
They pray to an angel of death.
They don't care.
They kill for money.
You fuck them over.
No human life regard at all.
No, makes sense.
Did they all have the Santa Morta in the house?
They did, yeah.
Yeah, bro.
So many of them did.
They pray to an angel of death.
Mexicans are on some different type of timing.
Like the Mexican criminals.
I know niggas are scared of Mexicans.
I'll never go back to Mexico.
All the notes after all of them, they all have like a Santa Muerta in the house.
Like every time we'd raid a house, they'd always have the fucking Santa Morta there.
You would raid in Mexico or in America?
In America.
That's cool.
In America.
Never.
Yeah, fuck that.
What's next?
But we'd be right on the border.
Like Laredo.
Yeah, it makes sense.
What can Haiti do to grow and less violence?
And would you ever go back to Haiti?
I would love to go back to Haiti to make a movie about the scenario.
I got a really cool idea in mind, but just for my parents' sake, I'll hold off for a while.
Actually, I promised myself, since Haiti, no black countries for a while.
And I've held true.
It's been two years and I'm not back.
I don't know about Barbados, bro.
That's where I'm from.
It's beautiful.
Rihanna's from there.
Why are you here?
Well, I'll be honest with you, bro.
I want to go back someday.
But I'm here for now.
Bro, don't act like you don't have the money to go.
You know what it is?
You don't want to go.
It's boring, bro.
You could go right now.
You could be there tomorrow morning.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Post a story on Instagram tomorrow that you're in Barbados if you love Barbados.
What I'm saying is you should go see it for yourself.
Oh, I would love to.
I'm going to hit every country.
Look at it.
Oprah.
What's the guy's?
Simon Cowell, the off property.
I don't count those as black countries.
I mean, like Haiti.
Haiti.
Did you do Sudan?
Now I would.
Now it's been two years.
You could go.
Yeah, now I would.
I have people.
Okay.
I have a network of the craziest travelers that have access.
Would you go?
No, I wouldn't.
With him?
I'd go with you to Sudan.
That'd be a good vlog.
He wouldn't go.
I'll come watch.
Nah, man.
He wouldn't go.
He wouldn't go.
I'll go.
I'll come back on this podcast after I hit Sudan.
I'll go befriend the militias.
Which one should I befriend, bro?
I'll show you how they're both.
I'll show you guys.
I'll go eat a lot of people.
You go to the RSF.
They're like killing people, and then there's the SAF, which they're also killing people.
It's like terrible, bro.
Khartoum is a war zone.
What about like gold?
Are there gold and diamond mines there in Western Sudan?
Yes.
Do you know anybody?
Are you tapped into Sudan?
No, I'm not.
I'll figure it out.
Like, they completely destabilize the government.
It's cooked.
But yeah, I mean, the RSF is who controls the gold, but they're fucking ruthless, man.
They kill a lot of people.
Yeah, the thing is like...
You speak Arabic and you're Lugnani, so...
Yeah, yeah.
But they're going to say, what the fuck are you doing here?
Yeah.
Yeah, whatever.
I'm just a guy.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just a guy who comes through.
Anytime, too, I diffuse very quickly.
I change the topic.
If the topic gets very aggressive, you just change it.
And they're not like you where they have a specific, like, okay, let's go back to Afghanistan.
No, they'll forget.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
But you speak Arabic, so.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Just say a Muslim, by the way, when you're there.
I do a pretty good job at that.
Yeah, you do a good job at that, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
They were telling you that.
Nasrallah, Nasrallah.
I'm telling you that.
Okay, yeah.
At least you know Arabic.
Bro, the thing is, like, that's crazy because he's looking.
What is a Muslim?
That's confusing.
No, no, because I'm like, I thought you were a Muslim.
What is a Muslim?
The word Muslim means to submit.
I submit to God.
We call it the Heavenly Father.
There's no difference.
We have a lot of Muslim friends.
I do, yeah.
I have so many Muslim friends.
Yeah, but I love Muslims.
That's why they think they're Muslim.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I get it.
I spent a lot of time.
No, no, no, no, there's not.
Yeah, of course.
But like, what I'm saying is, like, when he was in Iran, like, they, they, uh, they call him Nasrallah.
They called the saint.
I had like the number one Lebanese saint on my shirt.
Most recorded miracles in that region of the world.
And he looks like the leader of Hezbollah.
So they called the saint on my shirt.
They said, no, say it's Hassan Nasrallah instead of Saint Sharbel.
Yeah.
That was a great clip, though.
Yeah, that's what I wonder.
He almost died.
They're like, wait, Nasrallah?
Nasrallah?
You're like, yeah, Nasrallah.
Let's go, bro.
Yeah, the fucking.
Did you see the one in Syria?
I didn't kill them like two years ago.
What?
Did you see the one in Syria?
I had like ISIS behind me with like ISIS flags.
And it was a Syrian Independence Day parade.
And they're all screaming like Tech B.
And I'm like, Tech B, I'm hanging out the car window.
And then after they disappear, I'm like, in the name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
That one did like 40 million views just as a clip.
Yo, you're a brave man, bro.
Yeah, they had the black flags.
Yo, could you imagine if they knew?
Wait.
No, I'd be okay.
I'd be okay.
I'd be okay.
They're not.
Surprisingly, you know what?
Surprisingly, people think, like, oh, you're a Christian.
I'm going to kill you, whatever.
Hey, man, he just paid the jizz a man.
It is what it is.
Oh, jizza tax.
Yeah.
All right.
That's good then.
Because the thing is, is that, like, well, it says in the Quran, too, Christians are the closest to us.
It's like how we look at it.
And there's a lot of respect from Muslims to Jesus.
So I'm very well versed where I can talk my way out of any of them.
Because they believe that he's a prophet, not God.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, well, it's some reference.
Bro, if you, if you, you will get beat up worse talking about Jesus in a Muslim country than in the United States.
That's actually true.
People here.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, anybody agrees.
You cannot assault Jesus in front of Muslims.
That's good.
You can't do that.
You cannot.
And also, at the same point, I've sat with Taliban leaders for seven days in a row and they tried to convert me to Islam.
So I'm well-versed enough.
Oh, they knew you're a Christian.
Yeah.
Okay.
And they told me every day they said, bro, we know this could be scary.
So just know that you're safe in here to say whatever.
So it was a very.
I have the experience of like literally sitting with 20 generals holding guns and trying to explain to them in a very soft way that I just don't want to say that Muhammad is the last messenger.
Okay.
Okay.
I believe there's one true God.
So there is.
I just don't believe messengers stopped 1600 years ago or 1400 years ago.
I just don't believe that.
I think there's messengers right now in the present moment.
And the more you tune into it, that's how God talks to you.
It's through other people.
Lebanese are Orthodox Christians, right?
There's Orthodox and there's Maronite.
Maronite's a Lebanese sect of Catholicism.
Okay.
Oh, Catholicism.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Are you Orthodox?
Are you?
I was raised Maronite Catholic.
Okay.
But my beliefs have evolved very as I've traveled the world and sat with gurus and sheikhs.
And I don't think it's just about one religion.
I think the religions have a core concept they're trying to teach, but you can absorb from all of them and then tie that to your way of knowing it.
No, you know, I think that's another propaganda thing when it comes to Islam.
They try to make it like, oh, they kill Christians and everything.
Like, obviously it's someplace when there's war, but like if you're like there in peacetimes, like, you know, historically, and if you read the Quran, like, literally, Muslims look at Christians.
Bro, come to see us.
Come to Lebanon this summer.
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I'll take you around.
You can make a cool vlog.
You pop a stream up.
We'll take you to a crazy place with a nice backdrop.
I could take you to a city of ruins.
Masad would try to meet me.
We are better together than apart.
I agree.
I think if I went there, bro, I think they'd try to kill me.
With me, you're safe.
They won't ever kill you.
Yeah, but the masad is crazy, bro.
They have good targeting.
As soon as you're 10 feet away from you, you're going to be able to get it.
They got to shallah, bro.
Come on, man.
I'm on the side.
All right.
All right.
After hours?
Yeah, after ours, we got some girls here.
Literally, we're going to start right now.
I'm going to bring the chairs.
We're going to start it up.
So we're going to have Airbnb with some girls.
We're going to talk some traveling.
Let's do it.
Yeah, we're Araban.
Oh, yeah.
All these girls are going to want to come traveling.
There you go.
Of course.
Of course they will.
Honestly, do I got to call them 304s?
No, I don't know.
No, no, just call them camels.
It'd be nice.
Camel jockeys?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm right.
All right, then just literally be back in 10 minutes.
Chris, call it.
ASAP.
ASASAP.
All right.
All right, man.
Peace.
Like 15 minutes, niggas.
Bye bye.
I ran, I ran so far away I just ran, I ran for my landlady