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Sept. 22, 2025 - Fresh & Fit

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Trump’s Secret Crypto Stash And Why You Need Crypto Now!

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	And we are live with it, guys.
	Welcome to the first report.
	Let's get into it.
	Let's go.
	We're gonna be talking about new stuff with Trump and crypto.
	Yep.
	Uh we're gonna open up the phone lines, answer some questions for you guys.
	As you guys know, with this YouTube channel, um, you know, now it's moving more towards uh financial channel.
	If you guys want the after hours and everything else like that, that's gonna be on rumble and kick only.
	Um but you know, we're I think we're dropping one short or one clip a day on here right now.
	Uh and then we're also doing the streams once or twice a week.
	Um on Mondays and Fridays.
	Uh so you know, we're doing crypto twice.
	Crypto course is out right now.
	It's gonna be closing, I think, on Friday.
	Next week, uh we'll do it on uh Monday.
	Monday, okay.
	End of the this week, beginning of next week.
	So we we're gonna give you guys a bunch of value.
	Uh explain what's going on with uh the Lances of the Crypto, Donald Trump, um, the schedule, and then also um answering questions with the phone lines open up the phone lines for you guys, and then we got woman propaganda on for tonight for after hours with some girls, that's obviously gonna be on Rumble and Kick only.
	Um so we got it, we got a good show.
	And I just got done doing uh the debrief here in a second uh a second ago.
	So we're working, man.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We're grinding, bro.
	Literally from that room, just right over here, and now we're live again.
	So um I'm am I missing anything?
	That's pretty much it.
	All right, fellas.
	There's been talks around the world.
	Uh what Trump is doing crypto.
	He's hoarding it, taking all the bitcoin.
	What's happening?
	And add to that, they're saying it's bad for the economy.
	What do you guys say about that?
	I mean, they're obviously it's great for the economy, it's great for the US dollar.
	Everything Trump is doing is basically to protect and extend the life of the dollar.
	At some point in time, the dollar's either gonna transform into something brand new, just fully crypto, or we're just gonna make some new currency that's gonna be backed by basically our treasury of of cryptocurrency assets, you know, real estate and everything else as well.
	You know, um like Trump they they passed a genius act with stable coins, and this is like this is what we started getting the finance minister of Russia basically calling out the United States.
	Like, you guys don't understand what you guys are what what the United States is doing.
	They're basically going to dump all their debt on the world.
	Yes.
	Which is why they don't like it.
	Right.
	Pretty much so t Trump's making all these tariffs, right?
	So a lot of countries are getting pissed off, so they're buying less US treasuries, which is basically they're not buying our debt as much.
	So Trump figured out a way.
	Well, we're gonna grow the stable coin market.
	All the stable coins are gonna be backed one to one, a dollar of stable coin to a dollar of US treasuries, and we're gonna let the global citizens around the planet basically destroy their local currency to get into a tether, a USDC or a USD one or whatever stablecoin that exists out there, and that is basically going to buy up treasuries.
	I mean, um they're they're expecting sometime by like 2028 uh the stable coin market could grow to four trillion dollars.
	That would make them the single largest holders of US treasuries on the planet, more than China, more than anybody.
	I think right now we're maybe like 13th largest, the whole the the entire like uh stablecoin market.
	And these are like one of the plans.
	It's like we we like it it's sort of like what's happening right now in crypto and in kind of with Trump in office is Trump understands money.
	Yeah, he's a businessman, he's made money before.
	As much as people want to like shit on him on this guy knows business, and we want to be market leaders.
	You don't want to be second place.
	If you can help it, be first place.
	So that's why we're like we've been pushing forward to like if if we let if we let China control AI, we're playing second fiddle and we're gonna lose, right?
	So we're going, we're trying to control AI and we're trying to be the market leader in crypto, and that's what's happening right now.
	Like we are the market leader in crypto now.
	Also, keep in mind, um, I didn't know this until recently, but we're in a lot of debt.
	Like yes, not just a lot of debt, we're in a massive amount of debt.
	37 trillion dollars in debt.
	That's insane.
	Yeah.
	Um but he wants to actually use this the big uh crypto to help pay out the thumb of debt as well, right?
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So absolutely.
	Um so yeah, pretty much uh we've been we've been teaching the crypto mindset for the last five years.
	Um we've been showing people how to self-custody, how to buy Bitcoin.
	Um then it's gone to the point now where we've gotten very rich individuals, someone like Gary Cardone or the Cardones and stuff trying to like publicly buying it and stuff, and then I cannot believe going to the conference that Cardone was sitting there with his brother saying, I'm buying Bitcoin.
	Yeah, I'm slowing on real estate.
	I was like, what the Are you saying this right now?
	You're gonna stop buying real estate and buy Bitcoin?
	That's crazy, bro.
	I mean, the last time we saw Gary, uh well, Gary Cardone and stuff like that.
	We were telling him I'm a Solana.
	He got into Solana after that.
	Like a couple weeks later, he was on interviews like I just went crazy into Solana.
	Yeah.
	But but these these billionaires or these people worth hundreds of millions of dollars are all getting into crypto.
	Now uh banks are slowly getting into crypto.
	Now uh large corporations like uh BlackRock and um you're starting to get treasury company you're gonna try to get stock market companies.
	So basically our private sector and our rich individuals and kind of basically the top ten percent of Americans are buying crypto right now, storing it up because as soon as the US government officially starts, hey, yeah, we're gonna spend about a hundred billion dollars a year to buy crypto assets.
	It they're not gonna call it a Bitcoin reserve, they're gonna call it the crypto reserve, but it's mostly gonna be Bitcoin.
	Yeah, they'll probably call it digital asset uh just because they don't like the words Bitcoin, they don't like the words crypto.
	The media's basically uh what do you call it, tarnish tried to tarnish those names over the last ten to fifteen years to try to stop crypto that uh they just say digital asset reserve, anything blockchain is still okay.
	But I I think what these governments and corporations, uh like Grant Cardones corporation, the government, the US government, other governments, what they're starting to realize is like okay, short term there's a lot of volatility in crypto.
	Long term though, if you get the assets that have basically already won and are not going away, then you can basically outpace inflation with those and you can have a reserve of assets just like you know, with uh gold, silver, and other stuff too.
	The other thing I think that they're realizing is if you look at like Miguel said, there's AI and crypto.
	Yeah, just like we don't want China to be the leader in AI, right?
	We don't want them to be the leader in crypto as well.
	And they actually were the leader in Bitcoin mining for like ever dimmer almost forever until like just the end of the last cycle in twenty twenty-two.
	Well uh a lot of that transfer happened um between middle of twenty-one to uh beginning of twenty-four.
	It was like a long process, but now uh you have a lot of that mining going over into Texas.
	But the thing that's interesting if you look at like a historical perspective of what crypto is and what AI is.
	AI, I mean it's akin to like fire or the wheel.
	Like it's that significant of uh what do you call it of an invention by humanity, right?
	Like it's massive it could massively change the whole landscape of what we do.
	Crypto, I would say is more along the lines of like the printing press.
	Um it's basically the the major F you to the government in the sense that uh there's never been a time in human history where the citizens could have control of money and actually be involved in the process of money creation.
	That's always been something that kings and you know uh lords, governments have always been in charge of.
	And they are in charge of that with brute force, right?
	With murder, with you know war, with all that stuff.
	And so crypto, uh there's a guy named Milton Freeman in the mid-90s.
	Uh he's an economist.
	What he said was the only way humans will ever take the power away from the Federal Reserve again, or the citizens will, is if they do something that's technological and that's like a sly version of something the government wouldn't notice at first.
	And Trump's and Trump's like beefing right now with the Fed right now as well and stuff.
	So the Fed's kind of gotten back in line a little bit because Jerome Powell's out of here May 12th, right?
	Yeah.
	So they're cutting interest rates two more times.
	Yeah.
	25 basis points, October 29th and December 10th.
	Another 25 basis points.
	So if you look at it, we just got one in September, we're gonna go in October, another one in December, probably another one in February.
	And then Jerome basically said he's not gonna cut anymore.
	And then as soon as uh Trump puts uh somebody brand new in office, the cuts are gonna continue probably because Jerome is basically saying that like we'll cut one more time in twenty-seven.
	No, that's not that that's crazy.
	So he's like saying one basis point cut of twenty-five basis points for twenty-six and then one for twenty-seven, that's nothing.
	Yeah, I mean, Trump campaigned on cutting interest rates.
	He said that when he was campaigning, we're gonna need to bring the interest rates down.
	Um and he's a real estate guy, so I'm not surprised, you know.
	Yeah, he went.
	Every time he's been in office, you know, uh, rates have been somewhat manageable.
	I mean, we did get lows during the COVID pandemic, but I think that was more about less so Biden, more about just the pandemic.
	Yeah, the economy shutting down.
	Yeah.
	But we were still at zero percent right there, and then twenty like I mean, literally look at it.
	I mean, like twenty uh in crypto stock market too, we all to we basically topped out November, December of twenty one, and then January, fifty basis point increase, and then in within two years, we went from zero to like five and a quarter, five and a half percent.
	And then you know what in real estate, you know, th that means like 30 year mortgage is like seven or eight percent, nine percent.
	Yeah, you know, from like three percent right now.
	Right now, yeah, it was the last couple of deals I've done are been like eight is between seven and nine percent.
	Like, what what does it cost to like cut a point?
	Because you you always would buy real estate, but also like take points off, right?
	Yeah, you can buy, yeah, you can buy points uh to bring it down.
	Um, but then you start to get to a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't make sense.
	Um but I was buying it as an investor, so obviously if you buy an investor, you it's always gonna be a point of just off of that alone.
	It's gonna go up a percent typically.
	But if you're buying it as a as a you know, uh as a you know, as a homeowner and you're gonna live in it uh as your residence, you'll probably get around six or seven.
	Yeah.
	At least when I was buying right now, I don't know what the rates are exactly.
	Um but they're coming down a little bit.
	Probably, yeah.
	I would estimate somewhere between seven and nine percent.
	I I think long term, like I think Trump probably I mean, we can't go back to zero.
	We can't.
	It's it's inflation would go crazy.
	You'll never see through sub three percent interest rates ever again.
	Not for a long time.
	Not for a long time, yeah.
	But we're probably he's gonna like if if Trump is in control by twenty middle of twenty six, which he will be, I think we're gonna be the Fed's fund rate's gonna be like two percent.
	So that means you know, good credit, you're probably getting like low fours on a 30 year that would be good.
	Yeah.
	And that's deep that's enough, and then it's pretty damn good.
	Yeah, and that's kind of what I was talking about the other show is like we're gonna start we're gonna start getting a refinance boom in the real estate market.
	Yeah.
	Especially like he's been getting letters on that.
	Yeah, like refinance, refinance.
	But like the deal has to be good enough because there's tons of people, like that's actually gonna be what's fuels the next crypto bull run in the next stock market run.
	Is it's gonna be real estate has basically been at a standstill since 22, basically, right?
	And no one can sell right now.
	No one can sell.
	So so people are house rich, cash poor, and then some people, you know, if they have equity, right?
	If if you bought from 2008, or like let's just say 2009 to like 2018, 2019, you have equity.
	Yeah, you have plenty of equity now.
	But you know double.
	It should be double, right?
	But you can't but if you sell it, you're like, damn, this payment's ridiculous.
	You know, sure you have cas people don't want to like you know, get into a like e an equal house they had in California, buy one in Miami, and they're like, dude, this is I'm paying twice the mortgage that I paid in California for this house in Miami, just because the um the interest rate's so much higher.
	Yeah.
	Buying an equal like level, sort of like level.
	Well, as you're saying, like them buying a house back in 08 in California and then coming to Miami is like the same.
	It's six near the same thing if not more.
	So prices are high higher too.
	So rate is high, and price is high too.
	Exactly.
	So we are getting some real estate prices coming down finally.
	Um the interest rate, there's gonna be a point in time, like I like I kind of think like if the rates keep coming down, we're gonna start getting a lot of uh refinances probably at the end of uh 26, and then probably like maybe prices are done crashing finally by middle of 27, the summer because usually the summer is where all the sales happen.
	Like no one buy like most people don't buy houses in December.
	It's just a terrible time in real estate to buy.
	You know, because most people, you know, they're they're emotional buying, they're like, let me see how this house looks in spring or in summer, basically, right?
	But like, you know, if you like, you know, Charlie's from Minnesota, right?
	Like who who goes buys houses in Minnesota in December, it's all I covered in ice.
	Yeah, it's cold.
	Yeah.
	But like I'm really bullish for the economy, and like there's a light at the end of the tunnel for especially for like 27, 28, and 29.
	Right.
	The only thing like that I'm worried about a little bit is what's gonna happen in 28, who's gonna is it gonna be JD, or is it gonna be like is it somebody from the left?
	That's where I get a little like I'm a little like I don't know.
	I mean, obviously, like the the Dems steal money and they pump the markets, of course, on the stock market side, but um they could spend the whole next four years trying to just take back whatever you know he did.
	And that's why the number one most important thing in my mind uh of what uh they should actually like set in stone in terms of law of what they've passed for executive orders and different things uh uh related to crypto is the anti-CBDC Act.
	Right.
	Basically uh Trump signed an executive order saying during my term, there will not be a central bank digital currency being created in the United States.
	Yeah, right.
	And that's only an executive order.
	So if the let's say the Democrats came in and said, well, screw that, Europe actually um between basically uh 2026 to 20, I would say 31, somewhere within there.
	The EU is going to get a central bank digital currency.
	Israel's probably gonna get one.
	Uh the same company is making it basically.
	No surprise.
	We had them in a webinar uh actually in the spring.
	Um the company that's made uh uh help to support.
	Can you explain to the audience real quick what a uh central bank um digital currency is?
	Yeah, it's uh dystopian.
	So it's basically a simplest way you can for them.
	Yeah, the simplest way is it's uh it's a stable coin or it's a coin that's stable to that currency.
	So let's say it's the US dollar, right?
	So if it's a digital version of the US dollar, it's a digital version of the US dollar, but created by the government, not created by a corporation.
	So it's uh that's the one that would be termed official, right?
	And so it's an official government currency.
	And what they can do with that is well, the NSA.
	We know what the NSA is doing, right?
	And so they can uh track Everybody's uh money, what they're doing with their money, they can uh pause people's money.
	They can it's basically ultimate control if it was like a cashless society as an example.
	So it's gives them a lot more authoritative control and viewpoint into people's finances than even the banks are right now.
	It's and so that's not good.
	That's what not what we want crypto to be used for.
	And um the reason why the EU is going after that um is simply just because it's an easier way to control everything that's going on on um among multiple countries.
	Also, you probably got a lot of people who are like, well, what we could do is let's say, for example, like in a dystopian example, um, let's say you're driving uh a Porsche to go somewhere and you're going to eat somewhere and you're eating like you know, grass-fed beef and all this stuff, and they're like, Okay, I'm gonna pay for this, I'm gonna buy this at the restaurant, and they say, Well, sir, actually you've used up your carbon credits related to to your central bank digital currency for the month.
	So actually, uh, since you drove here in a Porsche, you can't have a stake or or whatever it might be, right?
	They could do something like that.
	So an authoritative or totalitarian type government would uh or dictatorship, right?
	Would would be happy to have that.
	Uh, but yeah, we have and Saudi Arabia is the the third country that's going to basically um be doing that.
	So EU Saudi Arabia.
	So EU is starting is it uh fully implemented in EU yet or no?
	No, no.
	So Christine Lagarde um earlier this year, and she's been talking about this ever since she got into power there.
	Um she said October of this year is when they want to start having uh the laws passed that that can happen.
	Um that it that it could be used.
	It could be implemented, yes.
	And then uh there's a guy named Richard Werner, who's uh an economist who's uh through Germany, the UK, and he's where he works at Oxford, he's um also uh been in Japan for a long period of time.
	He had this really interesting documentary called The Princes of the Yen.
	And he's basically said uh the timeline of what you saw for the EU to get created is kind of a similar timeline for the central bank digital currency.
	And if you kind of compare those timelines, it would be between 2026 and 2032 where you get that more than likely 2029, 2031.
	So what I why I was mentioning that is because if the EU gets it and then somebody another party comes into power that's more aligned with maybe that type of philosophy, then um they could say, Screw that executive order, we're gonna get rid of that.
	We're actually gonna implement this because we can see that the EU the last two years has been doing this all right.
	So let's just copy that model.
	It's great.
	We can give UBI to people easier.
	They'll try to make it sound like it's good for you.
	Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
	They're probably gonna roll it out where hey, you you do this and we'll give you some money and you know, normies are gonna look at it like, oh, really?
	Yeah, it's way easier, it's cashless, so like blah blah blah.
	Obviously, people like us, right?
	Because we've been we understand censorship, we understand how the internet works and everything else like that.
	But normies don't have a grasp on this.
	Yes, not at all.
	And I've been talking about this since twenty nineteen, people thought I was crazy.
	Well is the big problem because now people are losing their jobs, they have no money, they need money.
	So you offer them to check every month welfare up on this, like welfare and all these government services, eventually they'll make you download an app.
	That's how they're gonna force it to happen, especially in in those countries.
	Is you have to download the government app.
	That's how you're gonna get your wick.
	That's where you can get your welfare, that's how you're gonna get your uh you know, basically your uh your subsidies or maybe like pay from the government, and that's how they're gonna on start onboarding people into this.
	And the reason it's it's so bad is because it's mixing the NSA with Palantir.
	They're gonna look at all your data, and as soon as just like that, like we're gonna demonetize you.
	Done.
	And they can turn you off.
	Now, the United States is not gonna go, it's they're gonna do this selectively at first, but there's other countries that are gonna go way harder.
	China's been doing it for a long time.
	They've been trying it out for a long time.
	So like when you have total control of the economy, there's no real dollars anymore.
	There's no more real like like like physical dollars than because it's all digital at that point, then they could say, you know, the economy's a little slow today.
	Um all the money that was made in the last two weeks, you have to spend it before Monday or it disappears.
	That way they can control a little bit better.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And they can they can exclude stuff.
	They can say, actually, and you can't spend it on electronics.
	You have to spend it on other stuff.
	And they can literally select what you can spend.
	But remember uh uh I don't know if you guys saw this tweet uh recently in the EU.
	There's someone who got arrested for reposting someone's tweet.
	Yes.
	And the UK, yeah, yeah.
	I saw that.
	That's crazy, bro.
	It's a female council and they showed up because I'm imagining being in jail for posting a tweet.
	That was a kid, right?
	That was a kid right now.
	No, imagine your bank account.
	Even worse.
	Yeah, even worse.
	And I I would say like uh EU is probably the gonna be the quickest to get it implemented.
	Israel and Saudi Arabia will be next because they can kind of just do it a lot more quickly.
	They don't have to have as many checks and balances.
	Yeah.
	But uh there's a politician from Minnesota called Tom Emmer.
	You've probably heard of him.
	He's uh the whip of the thing of the Republican Party.
	And um he's been actually a very good proponent and very actually I'd say one of the few politicians that's actually very uh eloquent about speaking about cryptocurrency understands it.
	You know, it's not just somebody gave him talking points and like said, hey, here's what you talk about.
	Um he actually looks like he sat down and understood this and he said, as a nation, we need to make sure that this absolutely does not happen.
	We need to make sure that executive order gets turned into law, and if that happens within the next three years, awesome.
	Because what the United States is gonna do instead is they're going to go into corporation-based stable coins, which are not central bank digital currencies, so uh one ultimate power is not gonna be able to turn them off.
	You're gonna be able to choose between a plethora of options like Circle, which is Coinbase.
	Uh also PayPal has their own.
	Robinhood's probably gonna come out with their own stable coin different crypto wallets like MetaMask are gonna come up with the bigger.
	But the problem is if the government makes their own and forces you to use it.
	Then they have one choke point.
	Yeah.
	Where like No, I mean I can absolutely see how that would be very bad because um the levers of control begin.
	So because here's the thing, uh I see where you guys are saying, like, because some people might say, Oh, well, who cares?
	Like, allow it for people that want to use it.
	Well, the problem is that obviously a lot of people aren't gonna want to use it.
	Right.
	And then they're gonna, oh, we need more people to sign up, and then they're gonna find ways to force people in.
	Yeah, it's 1984.
	It's the beginning of stuff like that, you know.
	So you don't even want it to come in, even as a choice you think is bad.
	No, no, no.
	The choice is stable coins, right?
	That's perfectly fine.
	You have USD tether, for example.
	Tether, circle, USDC, um PayPal USD, which is directly tied to a currency a foreign bat, uh sorry, a government currency already.
	Yeah, and it's uh it's a corporate.
	So the way that Tether does it, right?
	They have their corporation, they print digital dollars, but they do so based on how much value they actually have of dollars within their corporation.
	Uh they recently hired Bo Hines, who is in the Trump administration, uh, because he was actually behind uh the movement of the Genius Act that passed this summer, which allowed corporations to basically make stable coins, it made stable coin uh legalization essentially, like regulated.
	Okay.
	Uh and so now what you're gonna see a lot of banks do, like JP Morgan, right?
	They're gonna be like, oh, well, we're at the front of the money printer.
	We wanna stay at the front of the money printer.
	So they're gonna aggressively uh do these things.
	And so Ethereum is the coin that basically all this is built upon.
	Like I said, the company, uh I won't name the name, but the company that made uh well that helped to fund Ethereum and Cardano back in, I think this was like 2015.
	They're the ones that are also helping the some of the central bank digital currency go through.
	Um they're going to create some privacy stuff related to that.
	So uh and then there's gonna be that technology will probably be copied by a lot of other things.
	But the core point is that a lot of it's built on or almost all of it will be built on Ethereum, and so that's going to bring a lot of well, so the the rule in crypto is whenever you have stable coins coming in to an ecosystem, price goes up because you have money sitting there, eventually that money's gonna buy up Ethereum, buy up whatever assets are in that space.
	And so if you have uh Tom Tom Lee, who's uh the head of this company called BitMine that's uh trying to own five percent of all Ethereum supply, um he's basically talking about how many trillions of dollars are going to come into crypto just because of all these stable coins being created by these corporations.
	So I mean, think about it, right?
	How much money does PayPal have?
	How much money does JP Morgan have?
	How much assets do they all have that they can be like, okay, we're actually backing the dollars that we're printing or that we're putting into circulation that people can use as like an IOU.
	We're backing that with actual assets that we have, sometimes dollars, maybe sometimes their own real estate, uh, but they put that down as collateral essentially.
	And so when you get all that money coming into onto Ethereum, right?
	It goes up a lot.
	Yeah.
	Long term, long term.
	Yeah, no, but I can absolutely see why people are concerned with the you know central bank.
	I mean, central banks in general are uh create problems, but you know, with the digital currency, oh god.
	Well, what I was told is to get your money up now.
	Well, you still can.
	Yep.
	Trump's in office.
	Yep.
	Get two passports, one US, one outside, and run for the hills.
	Yeah.
	That's what I was told.
	Well, you have to always be able to, yeah.
	Yeah, uh part of freedom is being able to do what you want when you want with whom you want wherever you want, right?
	Yeah, you've got to have control of some of your money, buy some Bitcoin, buy some Ethereum, like focus on those two mostly.
	And you know, you can speculate, let's make some money, of course, but you know, long term, like like every every time the market crashes, like during the all-time lows like um during twenty nineteen or during twenty twenty two I bought Bitcoin and I bought Ethereum that I'm not selling.
	I'm just keeping it for a long time and for a long you know this is like a 10, 20, 30 year hold for me, you know.
	And for both your Bitcoin and the Ethereum.
	Yes.
	Both 10 years.
	Yeah at least at least 10 years or more.
	I mean before I take it.
	10 years from this point or from when you bought it.
	I would say probably from this point.
	Yeah at this point like 2035 so 235 is when you're looking at maybe liquidating it.
	Maybe liquidating a little bit or something or taking some money off there or but it depends too what I'm doing for 10 years.
	Yeah of course you have to like so like it's sort of like that Bitcoin caller that called in the maxi.
	Well like there's times where you buy Bitcoin where it's really like we were s like I was trying to get people to buy Bitcoin below a trillion dollar market cap.
	$52,000 and below it went to fifteen thousand five hundred and we were trying to get people to buy fifteen thousand five hundred twenty grand.
	How much was it last year at this time?
	For which coin for Bitcoin Bitcoin I remember one time y'all came here when it was really low.
	Yeah.
	And we told everybody And people said it's a scale it's a scale by Bitcoin.
	Yeah it was low and you guys were all fucking freaking out man.
	Seventy grand I think it was probably seventy grandload what it was.
	Yeah yeah.
	Um yeah I I remember that was funny.
	Uh guys by the way we are going to open up the phone lines for you guys as well.
	Uh six four six four nine zero zero three nine four is the number to call into the show.
	I don't know if it's open yet Mo Mo typically waits until to turn it to whatever but we were going to finish um chopping it up with the boys are going to open up the phone lines so you guys could go and ask your questions.
	So September of twenty twenty four yeah sixty sixty two thousand dollars or 1120 doubled in a year bro isn't that wild and everyone's the Mo this is a bull year for Bitcoin I think because of what he said was you know uh all the stuff with the the rate cuts and then future money printing that that's gonna help us bleed into next year.
	W would you advise someone um like I mean that we had that hater call on last time would you advise someone to buy Bitcoin at this point or is it like come on at this point bro it might not be worth it.
	You might want to go into a everything has a use case right so it depends on who you are.
	Like my why is Michael Saylor so going so hard in Bitcoin because he's already rich.
	He's already got tons of money.
	Gotcha.
	So he just wants to maintain his value over time against the dollar actually increase over the dollar right make sure he doesn't lose his money and then B increase slowly.
	So he's a lot more conservative in that sense, right?
	But then why is Tom Lee wanting to buy five percent of all Ethereum right because he knows that's the next one that's basically still cheap.
	It's like you're buying five thousand five thousand dollar Ethereum is like you're buying maybe you know uh two thousand dollar Bitcoin back in the day.
	Gotcha.
	But in terms of the opportunity roughly speaking yeah so buying Ethereum right now at what is it three thousand or something like that is the equivalent of 4200.
	42.
	Is it equivalent to buying uh Bitcoin back when you said when it was around one K or so?
	Yeah like 2017ish?
	Well what was it?
	Yeah 2017.
	2017 around 1000, 2000?
	And I would say uh well Solana itself, right?
	That's gonna be a little bit of a wall street chain.
	Yeah.
	And so you're gonna have a lot of tokenized assets and real world assets starting to come on there.
	Now that's a little bit of speculation, right?
	But the banks are starting to move in that direction because it's the Solana compared to Bitcoin Ethereum is much more centralized.
	So it has a lot more aspects of what we call Web 2.
	Crypto is more like Web 3.
	So the next generation of the Web.
	Web 2 is kind of what we're used to using now.
	And so they want to make it easy to use, you know, We have Phantom wallet I don't know if you've ever used that for Solana but when you use that it's like you're using an application for that you're using on your phone now.
	It's not like you're using a crypto application really because of the ease of use and because Solana's sticking around a lot of the banks are buying into that and starting to build on that.
	Now we have to see one more four to five year move of Solana building there through the banks and then if that happens then Solana's gonna basically get uh what do you call it crystallized as like your number three uh cryptocurrency that's gonna stick around long term a lot of people in crypto probably don't like that but it's wall street money.
	Yeah have you heard of the all in podcast?
	Yes.
	They're attached to the book David Sachs.
	Yeah yeah yeah that's that podcast they did it they did a big episode last year when the when they endorsed Trump I remember right so they're all those guys on the show invest into Solana at like a penny basically and these guys are all attached to the Trump administration.
	You know so it's like we just following the money and they're also pay ex some of them are pay ex PayPal mafia and then some of the and Peter Thiels also back in J D and back to All the all the candidates on the on the right for you know uh vice president.
	So it's just we're just tracking where the money's going, right?
	So it's like, all right, so like this one's one of the gilded ones.
	So this is the stuff that we were looking at when when Solana crashed to like seven dollars, right?
	We we told our guys let's this let's put some money in.
	Like I bought a ton at sixteen dollars and stuff just because we were just is are they still backing it?
	Yes.
	Okay, let's go.
	And um just just to gonna make a point, yeah.
	I think Ethereum is a better buy right now, doesn't mean like if I buy Bitcoin right now and I hold it for 10 years, I'm gonna make money.
	Tons of money, of course.
	Regardless.
	Regardless.
	But during the short term, during the next couple of years, you know, like uh it it's it's like it's like an example.
	Like I tried I was gonna say this at Bitcoin Maxi guy when he called.
	Um imagine like you people always tell people to buy crypto when it's the most high, right?
	So when when 21, right?
	Let's just say uh he would he probably like let's just say, Mom, mom, buy Bitcoin, cool.
	He his mom probably would have bought it in March or April of of 21 for you know, sixty-four thousand, sixty thousand within the next couple months, she was down the entire time, and then around November, she finally got like finally, mom, I'm I'm nine thousand dollars in profit, and then it crashed for another year and some change too.
	So then the mom and like this is what most people do.
	They get rolled out and they sell it.
	Like the time to bought Bitcoin was in 2019 when we were buying it for three thousand dollars.
	Right?
	Three thousand to sixty-nine that's where the money went.
	When us buying fifteen or twenty thousand dollar Bitcoin, now it's like a hundred and thirteen thousand, hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, right?
	So Ethereum's all time high in twenty one was forty eight hundred bucks.
	Okay.
	We're at forty two hundred.
	Bitcoin's all-time high in twenty one was sixty-nine thousand.
	So Bitcoin's basically doubled, almost doubled its all-time high.
	And Ethereum's is right there below its all-time high.
	So you're buy so if you're just looking at like a value and we're also just like Charlie Blue Charlie was saying here about like Tom Lee, Tom Lee's trying to buy six million Ethereum, which is a five percent of the supply.
	All these it's all these companies.
	You can't lose if you got that much.
	Yeah, it's it's and they're gonna stake it and make a bunch of money with it and stuff like that.
	And like and Tom Lee used to be the top the top in uh he left he left uh JP Morgan in 2014, but he was basically their top guy, their top macro guy at JP Morgan in 2014.
	He left, made his own fund and stuff, and he's basically been one of the most in terms of like the last decade, he's been single-handedly the most correct guy when it comes to equities.
	Like he's like everyone knows.
	I mean, it's like he's super famous in equities, but well, if that guy's buying a bunch of Ethereum, I think on we're on to something here.
	That's the green flag.
	That's what I've been buying, it's just been straight Ethereum.
	I I you know, I'm slowly picking up a little bitcoin here and there, but like it's just so high now at this point.
	It's like, you know, are you gonna get the same returns, right?
	Especially because we're spoiled, right?
	Like, especially you guys, you guys were buying Bitcoin at fucking when it's just a couple hundred bucks.
	Meanwhile, me, I'm over here, I'm I'm thinking like, yeah, I'm buying Bitcoin at 3,000, 6,000.
	This is great.
	Now it's 120,000.
	We're like, oh damn, oh no, bro.
	But here's the other thing though, like, where is it going?
	One of the things that uh, you know, R.A.P. John McAfee, Mac McAfee said um back in 2017, if Bitcoin hits a hundred thousand dollars, it's definitely going to a million.
	And that's the reason for that is basically because if it makes a hundred dollars.
	It was crazy when he said that too.
	I remember when you guys did that interview.
	Yep.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was a good thing.
	I remember when you guys did that when you and John did that interview years ago, everyone's like, This guy's fucking crazy.
	Yeah.
	Well he was right.
	Yeah, he was absolutely right.
	And he he had a controlled craziness.
	Like uh it was funny when we did that interview.
	We he said, Oh, I have thirty minutes for you guys, right?
	We started like 10 or 15 minutes early because he was in the room already.
	And then we were like, um, what do you call it?
	We'd we did the whole interview and everything, and then at the very end, which I thought he was just gonna keep going.
	I'm like, Oh, he's giving us more than 30 minutes, we're going like 40 minutes here.
	At the very end, he started talking about Kent State, all this stuff, and he started like kind of fake crying, but I thought it was true at the very beginning, right?
	He's like, You guys, like you kids, you know, you you're protests and stuff, like you you guys are kind of lost and all this stuff, and then he's like, You cry to stuff that he uh hangs up or whatever.
	We're like, what the hell is that?
	Like it was the weirdest, weirdest end of an interview ever.
	But then like I swear to God, bro.
	I text I like frantically texted his uh wife because she's the one that helped us set up the interview afterwards.
	I was like, Holy shit, like uh we had a really good interview.
	I hope he really liked it.
	Like I I didn't want to make him upset, but like I hope he's okay, right?
	And she was like, he's having a great day.
	Like he's just you know, played with us basically.
	But he's he's a he's controlled chaos, is what I want to say there with John McAfee.
	But anyways, that hundred thousand dollars, once you hit that six figures, you're gonna make a million because what's he predicted was gonna hit a hundred thousand back then?
	Yeah, okay.
	He also predicted.
	Well, you've been predicting too it was gonna hit a hundred thousand.
	I mean, Charlie, you've been telling me for years it's gonna hit a hundred thousand and it came true.
	People thought I was crazy in 2019 when I said Bitcoin is gonna go towards a hundred thousand.
	People thought I was crazy when central bank digital currencies are gonna come out.
	I did uh a Web series called uh digital currency wars I talked about.
	Yep.
	I mean it's and like all the stuff that we're talking about here, it's starting to happen.
	And like like you said with um Tom Lee buying a lot of stuff.
	So uh if you look at um Pantera Capital, they were the earliest fund on DeFi.
	Yep, they bought a billion dollars of Solana because they know that's where Wall Street's going.
	Once the bank started buying, it was over.
	Yeah.
	Once they they started making ETFs and they started buying, and you know, Goldman Sachs, all these guys started getting into cryptocurrency.
	They did it secretly, of course.
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	They didn't like make it, you had to go digging in the Wall Street Journal or newspapers to find it, but they were doing it.
	Um and then you know, we talked about Grant Gondor earlier.
	Grant Gardon's had crypto forever.
	He just didn't like publicize it like that.
	But he's always had uh uh a bunch of uh Bitcoin, but obviously since he's a real estate investor, right?
	That's what he does, and his whole thing is collecting money from people to do real estate deals, you know, it'd be counterproductive be like, yeah, go buy Bitcoin.
	Yeah, but he has and his brother, Grant uh Gregory, uh Gary Cardone, yeah, huge into crypto.
	Yes, huge he's like the crypto guy.
	He's a crypto guy, he's not a real estate.
	I don't know if his brother if his I don't know if his brother has to be.
	You know what's shocking though?
	Just out to your point.
	Yeah.
	At the Bitcoin conference, there were so many athletes there.
	Oh, yeah, oh yeah.
	And oh hold on one second here.
	This is a celebrity function.
	And they're like, you know what?
	How do I get into Bitcoin?
	Yeah, one of them hit up Romus the Yield for a deal.
	But funny because they're all trying to get into Bitcoin one way or another.
	You know why?
	Basically, one of the reasons why that we've found, at least with uh sports players that we've seen, a lot of the ones that come to us initially, they're like the uh guys who only have a few years in the league.
	Oh, and they get some money, but they're like, How do I keep this?
	How do I grow it?
	How do I not end up like you know, Latrell Spreewell?
	Well, he had a hundred million dollar contract when he was with the Timberwolves or something like that, and he was like, That's not enough money, I need to feed my kids.
	It's like, bro, like what are you spending?
	But there's a there used to be a statistic that uh Charles Spree well is hilarious, but he was very good with Kevin Garnett and uh Sam Cassell back in the day.
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	But like uh what do you call it?
	There's a statistic.
	This is before five years after the league, something like that, right?
	Well, like not even that one, but before uh Steph Curry like popularized three point from like way long range, yep, it was a high risk play, right?
	And so the this is maybe probably late nineties, early two thousands stat, but they found the players basically who were willing to take more three-point shots were a lot worse off financially.
	Oh shit.
	Because they had too much risk on their plate, basically.
	Interesting.
	And so what you find with those players is yeah, you go down the line and they basically spent all the money.
	So the best shooters said it'd be terrible with money.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And so what they and what so what they're doing now, if they're like in the league just a few years, um, like Gronk had a story where he's like, I didn't spend any of my money that I made, I just put it in a bank account and I live frugally.
	Awesome, smart man, right?
	He's now he's freaking rich or wealthy, and then uh all these different things.
	And so like they want Bitcoin and they want to get in this space because they don't want to lose their money.
	So you know who was headed the curve?
	Everyone laughed at, said he's blowing money too fast and you won't do well.
	Odo Beckham.
	Way back in the day.
	He actually took a salary in Bitcoin.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he was like he was like, pay me in Bitcoin, and he got it.
	He did that for like four or five years.
	Yeah.
	And he actually put out a tweet uh when Bitcoin hit a new all-time high this cycle.
	He's like, haha, what are you calling me now, motherfuckers?
	Because everybody called him stupid when he was doing it.
	They did.
	There's also a lineman.
	There's like a lineman from the Carolina Panthers.
	I forgot his name, but he was doing the same thing.
	Yeah, smart guy.
	Um do you think we'll this early on?
	But I uh you m you've been pretty good with you uh predicted Bitcoin would hit 100,000 back in 2019.
	When do you think we'll hit one million?
	So my oh look, and we probably both have like different opinions on this, but or and do you guys want to open up the phone lines after this prediction?
	Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
	Let's put the chats first and then phone line because they'll be winning for chat.
	All right.
	Uh Bill Mo, you logistically should we open it now?
	It's up to you.
	Open it up, just open it up so that way we don't get distracted with the the noise and shit like that, and then we'll have them give their predictions, read chats, and then we'll open up the phone lines so you guys can have time to cycle in and shit like that.
	As you guys know, the rules are the same.
	Uh 646 490 0394, uh put the last four digits of your number, and you get to cut the line.
	Uh, get to have a good discussion.
	Open QA guys on anything financial.
	We're gonna try to focus more on cryptocurrency.
	We got two experts here for you guys.
	So um, you know, get your questions in.
	Uh course, we haven't even plugged it yet.
	It's live right now, guys, uh, for the crypto mindset course for quarter four.
	Um it closes on Monday, but getting while you guys can, and uh, you know, they're still keeping it at the same price point, 997, which is fantastic.
	And uh every yeah, with the most people that come in.
	All of our guys make money.
	I'm not gonna hold your body.
	Oh, yeah, I'll make that money back.
	I would have raised the price.
	So y'all niggas made it.
	Yeah, it by inflation-wise, we probably should have.
	You know what I mean?
	But we want to make it affordable.
	You guys have been literally have the same price point for like four years now.
	So yeah, we want to make it affordable for people.
	But to answer your question, right?
	For uh when does Bitcoin hit a million dollars?
	So there's a lot of different things that you can do to try to like guess exactly when it's gonna happen and stuff like this.
	But the first thing that you need to do is uh we kind of explained this on the last show.
	One of the callers asked, like, uh is the four year cycle broken?
	Are we going to extend it cycles up?
	So if anybody has questions about that, go view that.
	But in my opinion, the four year cycle is still valid, it will still continue to be valid for quite a while.
	Um it's not only just because of Bitcoin's supply shock with the having, but it's also due to basically uh global liquidity cycles.
	Um that's really the one of the reasons that's uh pushing that.
	But so if you go by that, you got 2029 as candidates for the top of the cycle, right?
	2029, 2033, 2037, 2041.
	These are the candidate years of it hitting a million.
	Exactly.
	By 2029, 2033, 37, 41, four years apart every single day.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	Four years from now, it's 2029, right?
	If it hit a million in 2029, I would be shocked.
	Yeah.
	It would be amazing.
	Right.
	I think we can take it though.
	I'll fucking all.
	Send it.
	Oh, that'd be amazing.
	But uh, I think that's pretty highly unlikely.
	I think we get into the multiple hundreds of thousands, very four six, four hundred, six hundred, you know, somewhere in there.
	Yeah.
	Very comfortably.
	Excuse me.
	Uh very comfortably, and that just kind of, you know, is what people get used to.
	And then they're like, okay, well, now that it's like comfortably, let's say like $300,000 in 2030 or something, okay.
	Well, that's only a three X to get to a million.
	This is very possible, right?
	Yeah.
	And then when you get to 2033, that's your first realistic candidate in my opinion.
	Maybe 2032, you can argue, where you could get Bitcoin hitting a million.
	2037, I think it's probably inevitable by that point.
	So that's within 12 years.
	And if it's not, if it's slower than what we expect, for some reason there something happens and there's like a a tripping point or something, then 2041 at absolute latest, in my opinion.
	That's that's pretty late in my head though.
	Yeah, it is pretty late.
	Yeah, so it's possible in 29, but it's it's m so it just depends, like so yeah, the farther we get along, right?
	Is the United States gonna be in more debt?
	Is the world gonna have to do it?
	So within 15 years.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Within 15 years for sure.
	Yeah, it seems it's gonna be it's gonna be a million dollar asset.
	Wow.
	And and actually C Z uh from Binance, right?
	He had said recently, he said if you have point one Bitcoin, that will be the cost of an average house um in the 2030s, basically.
	So what if 10% of a Bitcoin of Bitcoin?
	10% of a Bitcoin.
	So if you're thinking your average house is like half a million dollars, that's five million dollar Bitcoin.
	So that's $13,000 right now.
	Wow.
	If you buy $13,000 of Bitcoin in 10, 15 years, you could probably buy a house at the end of the 2030s.
	That's how much it goes because once it goes expanding once the governments are actually like printing money to buy Bitcoin, the numbers are gonna start going crazy.
	Yeah, you know, it's interesting because like if you have like one if you got like a whole Bitcoin right now, it's like, dude, hold on to that thing forever.
	As much as you can.
	Absolutely.
	If you hold it long enough, you can literally but depending on one you bought in, you could take a part of it, buy a house cash, live in it, and then boom, like a majority of your spending, because most people uh spend most of their money on on on housing and then a car, right?
	You get one thing taken care of.
	Could you imagine not paying a mortgage or rent?
	Yep.
	Well, and what people are also gonna do now owning it outright?
	Yeah, well, people are gonna be able to do now too because banks are getting so heavily involved with digital assets and crypto because they have to, right?
	They're gonna start allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin.
	Yes.
	Right.
	So if you're not around that right now, some b some people at the high level.
	The very high level.
	Some people already borrow right now getting loans on their Bitcoin.
	Oh yeah, you could absolutely find somebody who'll do that, but like it's not common, right?
	It's not common.
	Like you don't go down to like it's not conventional like a bank of America where they're gonna start doing that, but you guys predict within the next 10 or 15 years, it's gonna be a common thing.
	You go in a chase, hey, I got this much Bitcoin, I want to borrow against it.
	Sure, we'll give you a loan on that.
	Right.
	28, 29, that's you'll be able to start going into certain JP Morgan branches like private client.
	You'll be able to do that.
	So they're doing HELOCs on your on your house.
	Also, people are buying cars with Bitcoin as well.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah, Bitcoin.
	Yeah, you can find like you not used, but like there's certain dealerships that will take Bitcoin or uh it's mostly in the used kind of luxury market.
	There's there's like smaller players that like, yeah, we'll take tether, we'll take crypto, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and then we'll sell you cars.
	Um that's gonna become much more in the next four years, like 28, 29 is where you're gonna start seeing this a lot.
	Uh, but you'll be able to come into so like as an example, if you let's just say a big like if you depending on on the branch of like JP Morgan or what some of these big banks, you could come in as long as you can show proof that you bought it and stuff.
	I could go into a bank with a huge bar of gold and they would give me a loan on it at like the lowest interest rate possible.
	So you'd be you're gonna be able to go into JP Morgan with like one Bitcoin on a flash drive as an example, deposit it there or send them to their wallet, and then they'll give you like a two percent, depending on the interest rates, they'll give you like a two percent loan on that for whatever terms you want.
	Well, we had a guy walk into dealership.
	Yeah, and uh he pulled up his phone, showed us his portfolio for crypto, and got a car on a spot.
	Yep.
	Beautiful.
	Yep.
	I was like, wow, yeah, that's fucking dope.
	And I bought relics.
	Yeah, the proof for a loan right on the spot.
	Bro, the the guy that owned the dealership was like, get him a deal.
	Yep.
	Instantly.
	So he saw him.
	Wow, what's money was in there?
	So yeah, this is gonna be more and more common.
	And and then and think and think about this too, is like if you start selling you're selling depreciating assets for crypto, especially if it's Bitcoin or Ethereum, if you keep that like just like Grand Cardone, like he got his first Bitcoin from uh there's this guy who uh the this crypto convention that was gonna pay my speaking, right?
	I think it was sixty or a hundred thousand dollars for the speaking engagement for a crypto convention.
	He went and they asked him, Hey, could we pay you in Bitcoin instead?
	And he's like, never say no to money.
	Yes, do it.
	So he took it, they paid him in big that's when Bitcoin was oh my god.
	I mean, it must have been a hundred, maybe three hundred dollars.
	It was very cheap.
	He got a ton of that that was a m very intelligent decision.
	Well that's when people are calling Bitcoin Chucky Cheese money, not real, you know, it's in the ether.
	They're saying the same thing now, right?
	About Ethereum, Solana.
	And it's just like, you know, all you really have to do in crypto is look at the history of both money as well as what's crypto what has happened in crypto so far.
	And we do often in the crypto mindset course, we teach our guys like what is the actual history of crypto because by the time we get past uh 2030, it's gonna be such a complex industry.
	A lot of people are gonna have a hard time remembering that stuff.
	Well, there's no other way you can get this rich this fast.
	Correct.
	If you're gonna hedge against like speed and time, I don't know what other class you could put money into return.
	Yeah, no, we do have to remind people there's always one in the four years, there's one bad year, right?
	Like 21 is bad.
	It is bad.
	So 21 ends, 22 happens.
	You know, most cryptos zero or they're down 95%, and you know, Bitcoin Ethereum are maybe down 75%.
	Then it recovers, and then we're back on the grind basically to go back up and hit new all-time highs, right?
	So it's just people have to remember that bad year.
	This is why it's also kind of it's kind of cool for us because people start saying it's a scam.
	Thank you.
	Because we get to we get to buy all these coins cheap and buy low.
	Sell high.
	I mean, that's what it is.
	But we do keep crypto for the long term.
	Yeah.
	So um, let's do some chats in the phone lines.
	Yeah, phone lines are open right now.
	646490934.
	If you guys want to call the 03894, uh put the last four just remember to cut the line.
	Mo's uh got you guys up in the queue right now.
	Uh what do we got here?
	Well, comedy skit.
	Okay, here we go.
	And uh, we got woman propaganda coming in for tonight, guys, gonna be a good show.
	Um Don't speak Muslim, so boost to 2025.
	Okay, appreciate that.
	I can't pull out.
	Um, I started my console with you in March 2021.
	I got in the course from Miguel and Charlie, despite being the uh buying the top I held and I'm up now.
	This will be my fifth course.
	Uh FNF shout out to the crypto micro.
	Shout out to you.
	Come on.
	Come to shout out to you.
	Shout out to you, bro.
	Glad that you're still uh killing it.
	Um here's a little example, uh a few days before the dip, and uh now they up another 250k ETH.
	So these are the largest companies.
	These are the largest companies who are acting, these are treasury companies and uh entities within Ethereum that have been adding to their supply.
	So that's Tom Lee's you yeah, so Bitmine right there, that 2.1 uh million ETH, that's Tom Lee's, right?
	Sharplink gaming, that's uh Joseph Lubin, who is the head of uh MetaMask and Consensus.
	And then there's the Ethereum Foundation, then there's this little thing called Pulse Chain right next to Coinbase.
	You know what's hilarious about this?
	This is actual like uh verifiable data, right?
	And what you'll see most people in crypto do, especially the Ethereum maxis, they will take this list and they'll want to show it because it's really good and useful information, but then they will wipe out the pulse chain site.
	And a couple of the other ones down there as well.
	And a couple of the other ones because competition.
	People that are not in their sphere of social influencer, yeah, their tribe, right?
	So it's one of these things where it's like um it's just funny for me to to watch this because people in crypto sometimes they do fight against each other a little too much, and it's like you know right now, like back before 2020 or from 2021 and before, this tribalism actually did help the projects because they were competing to kind of see like who can kind of create the best tech stack and build on top of that.
	Now that we have most of that, it's actually more beneficial to have the collaboration.
	Charles Hodgkin of Cardano actually has mentioned this quite a lot uh in crypto.
	If you see projects that actually work together, you can bridge liquidity between projects.
	Now the the risk for that is they think okay, if the liquidity goes over there, it'll never come back.
	But at the end of the day, if you have more usefulness, more utility between these different chains, they're gonna get use more money while coming.
	Can you pull that list up again one more time?
	Just because I want to say something.
	I just think it's better overall if crypto companies start working together more.
	So Bitmine is trying to get so they have two, they have 2.1 uh million Ethereum.
	They're trying to add another four million.
	They want six million total, that's five percent of the supply.
	They will do it.
	Sharp link is also adding crazy, and we're just gonna soon soon enough start getting uh certain other Wall Street companies that are converting themselves over into treasury companies for Ethereum.
	Uh this is why we're really bullish on Ethereum and and just Bitcoin too.
	But Bitcoin started this.
	Bitcoin was the first one to do this, and look what the Bitcoin supply did.
	Like I said, it's a printing press.
	This is why I would this is another reason I was telling that Bitcoin Maxi that called on the last show.
	Well, it's like you you're allowing Tom Lee, this VC to buy up all the Ethereum.
	This bullshit, this is why Ethereum's a scam.
	But it's okay, it's okay for it.
	Michael Sarah has three percent of all Bitcoin, right?
	Right.
	But it's okay for you know Sailor to do it, right?
	It's okay for these other entities to do it.
	That's okay.
	When it's this is the my main problem.
	This is what we teach our guys not to become these maximalists because it it's basically if you're not buying my religion, you're not buying my team, you know, you're against me.
	Are you you're drinking 13 beers with me or against me?
	You know, and that's that's how people are, you know.
	Like, I mean, as much as I don't like XRP or any of these other coins, like if I can make money on it, I'll make money on it.
	You know, I I think XRP is going to go up because guess what?
	They're there's gonna be a treasury company coming up that to buy XRP.
	They have an ETF that just went live.
	It's going to go up.
	But Dogecoin just got another ETF today.
	Which I called.
	It's called T Dog.
	T Dog, man.
	And then G Dog too.
	G Dog is coming in.
	Yeah, G Dog is going too.
	Wow.
	And no one believed like that, like just like Charlie kind of predicted a lot of these Bitcoin prices.
	I was the earliest guy when it coming out saying about these ETFs.
	I was telling people there's gonna be a Bitcoin ETF this cycle.
	Ethereum ETF.
	And then people are like, okay, I believe that.
	There's gonna be XRP.
	What?
	You can go back to some of the old shows.
	We we were on.
	I was saying I was saying there's a dogecoin ETF.
	And I said these are the four most likely ETFs to happen this cycle.
	And people didn't believe it.
	Now they've all happened already.
	A couple years later down line.
	It's it's Charlie Miguel don't miss.
	Shout out D Dog.
	What's the next one?
	And if one lines.
	Also, um, guys that are watching on my kick, we're gonna move over.
	We're gonna end my stream here soon and then go to we've got like 200 of you guys watching over on my kick.
	Uh I know a lot of you guys don't even know that we do have a fresh and fit um kick uh channel.
	So I'm gonna drop it in my kick right now for you guys uh that are watching over on my side.
	So you guys can um you know come on over.
	Yeah.
	We're gonna get Chainlink ETF, we're gonna get a Solana ETF.
	That the Avax one, the Avax, Avax and Um and uh Solana are the really big hyped ones right now because Solon obviously that's all that's where all the mean coins are and stuff like this.
	But Avax is mostly kind of doing more of the government side, kind of, it seems like to me.
	And then Solana is obviously the government, the bank and government where like Solana is more of like retail buyers plus like Trump administration VC side and stuff like that.
	But it's but it's been the most popular one, so it's gonna do really well.
	Like, you know, we can get it.
	That's I'm not saying like in the next month, but like eventually, you know, Solana could go like 420, maybe six, eight hundred dollars.
	That's totally possible.
	Don Pepe in the building.
	Don Pepe, that's right.
	I can't pull out again, says we need Charlie Miguel to hit the pose for the OSS.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah, they caught me with the salute.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sharpshooter.
	What coins should I buy right now?
	And how long should I hop?
	Hmm, good question.
	So let's give a couple different recommendations, all right?
	So I I'm gonna go with uh let's go with super simple, and then let's go with like okay, you're going in a little bit harder in the paint, right?
	So the super simple one is Bitcoin and Ethereum.
	Yeah.
	How long should you hold?
	Well, anything in crypto right now.
	It depends on like why are you buying it?
	Are you buying it just to have a savings that you're gonna hold there for 10 years, or are you going to try to maximize it and you know grow it up?
	Build it up, um, do cultivate crypto basically, right?
	Um, so let's do the the first one where you're just gonna buy and hold.
	You could buy you buy Ethereum and Bitcoin as much as you want any day of the week.
	Um, I think who was it?
	I think it was uh Arkinvest Kathy Woods, her son, um, is just buying uh a big grip of Bitcoin once a month, is doing that basically until uh you know he's into his working age, or I don't know how old he is exactly, but uh until he's quite a bit older.
	And so you could do that for like 10 years, sit on it for the rest of your life, sell it, borrow on it, do whatever you want.
	That's perfectly fine, right?
	If you want to maximize it this cycle, then I would say probably before next spring, right?
	Buy whatever coins you want now that you think are gonna be successful, but let's say Bitcoin Ethereum, then probably take profits on them between now and next spring, and then buy back again Q4 of 26 or Q1 of 27.
	Simple.
	So you basically do a couple moves there.
	Some people are able to pay attention to that long to be able to do that, some people aren't, right?
	Some people want the easy strategy.
	So that's a simple one.
	Um Solana, I would say, right now is a really good coin to buy.
	The other one, the one that I like right now, just because the chart is like looking like it's gonna break out no problem once Bitcoin gets back above 125k, is uh Avax.
	I mentioned that on the Friday stream as well.
	So you buy AVAX under 35 dollars, the next price targets it's gonna go to this cycle, most likely are 60, 90, and possibly 120.
	Yeah, before and that's even if it doesn't make a new all-time high, it can hit those levels.
	And if it does make a new all-time high, it might be a few hundred bucks.
	And so that one within the next few months, I think is a little bit further down the totem pole.
	And so for that reason, you make a little bit more money, you outpace Bitcoin Ethereum by a little bit more.
	Um, and then you kind of have to understand crypto a little bit more to really get into that one.
	So those are pretty safe options.
	And then time to go degenerate.
	Um but now like there's there's a thing, it's like where I am in the market versus someone brand new, right?
	Like me, right?
	Like I've already bought in kind of all the majors already cheap already.
	So for me, when I'm using my dollars keyword, I'm using my my my dirty fiat to buy crypto.
	I'm looking for the best value.
	I'm looking for like you have to invest like a man, not like a woman.
	A woman wants to buy all-time highs, they want to fuck the winner, right?
	Everybody wants to buy Bitcoin when Bitcoin, like if they say Bitcoin crossed $200,000 to say, Miguel, Charlie, do I buy Bitcoin right now at $200,000?
	Dog.
	You should you you have to buy you have to buy it when you have to buy it when it's the race is just starting.
	We're in there in last place.
	That's where you buy it.
	You can't like this is a big thing.
	People always want to buy it when it's green, when it's all time highs, which is wrong.
	You like investing like you can't invest like a female.
	You have to invest like a man, you have to make these investments.
	So I look at like dogs as an example, because like I've already got my Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, I've got these positions already locked in now.
	I'm looking into buying Avax as and pump just yet.
	I'm looking to buy AVAX very underrated.
	Yeah, it's very on it.
	It's just starting to kind of break out now.
	Yes, just now.
	So we as well as Suey's another one, yeah.
	Yep.
	So those are those are super safe majors.
	They got ETFs coming on the way.
	Now there's like something like a Sonic, right?
	Sonic's at its all-time low at 25 cents right now.
	It's going to get listed on the NASDAQ.
	They're they're building a US corporation, but all this stuff takes time, and there's a bunch of drama in the community.
	Good.
	I love buying blood in the streets.
	So I'm buying four for a dollar right now.
	If it goes to 20 cents or 16 cents, like the phantom all-time low of last cycle, then I'll buy it at 16 cents.
	So I'm willing to do a like two more investments.
	One more 25 cents, 24 cents.
	And if it crashes below, like if it goes down to 16, I'll buy there, and then I've got my bags packed.
	Then pulse chain stuff, I've got it backpacked already.
	You might buy a little more e-hex and stuff just because it's cheap on Ethereum and there's gonna be like ETH maxies or just people that don't want to bridge in, they'll just buy that.
	There's um then there's meme coins and stuff, but that's just super speculation stuff.
	So guys, real quick, um, on my kick, we're ending it real fast.
	We're ending it on right now.
	Myron Gaines X come on over to Fresh and Fit on Kit Guys.
	Got like 200 of you guys over there or whatever.
	So come on over and watch on um Fresh of Fit.
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	We don't really promote it like that, but we do have a fresh fit kick account.
	So come on over um and watch over there if you guys you know are somewhere where you can't watch or YouTube either or but come on over kick.com slash fresh a fit.
	I've spammed it in the chat for you guys.
	I'm gonna end the Myron Gaines X one right now.
	Bill's gonna end this, so come on over guys.
	Sorry, also with that just that information alone.
	You guys heard from Charlie Miguel, you can make a lot of money.
	Just that alone.
	Without any course, anything.
	So that's a real value there, fellas.
	Stick to the stuff that's gonna have ETFs or treasury companies.
	That's a safe one out.
	So if you're gonna get off of the Bitcoin Ethereum reservation, you buy the stuff that's like Solana, AVAX, Chain Link.
	You buy stuff that's going to have treasury companies and ETFs.
	That's institutionalized basically.
	Yes, the safe that's a safe way.
	Anything else, you're you're more risk, more rewards, but it could just totally backfire.
	The only issue I could see is that I won't know when to sell.
	Someone just look watching this for the first time.
	Oh, I'm gonna buy this this coin, but I don't know when to sell, which is why you need a course.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this is why we structure our business this way too, right?
	So we have our our crypto mindset course, which uh if you don't know about this stuff, you have to get that first.
	Um just because it's like the the boot camp to crypto and like it'll really get you going, right?
	Um, but then after that, like we have guys who take maybe two courses a year, they've been with us for a while, and then the other group that we have is called the Citadel, it's just like our monthly group, kind of like you guys have Castle Club.
	Um and that at least, you know, people if they need to take a little time off or whatever, that at least keeps them kind of up to speed.
	So we make sure to uh give that group a lot of information as well as on, I mean, hell, if people just watch our YouTube, right?
	Uh Cultivate Crypto and Dollar Cost Crypto, um, they're gonna get tons of this information for free um as well.
	But in October, we'll be dedicated only to the course, so we won't be doing YouTube.
	But between now and the end of this month, um, just like we're coming here and talking to you guys, we're gonna be talking a lot about this stuff going into the end of the year.
	Yeah, because we're gonna be we're gonna be taking care of our guys to like the end of the year and making sure that like look, there's gonna be a local top.
	There's gonna be it could be it could be in October, could be November, where we're gonna get like the Bitcoin top for the year.
	Doesn't mean the cycle's over, but taking some profits there, making sure cash on hand.
	And if it it is confirmed, oh shit, the cycle is over, you know, we sell out of everything else, and then we try to buy the Bitcoin bottom, but very likely because of all the money printing, drone pal getting replaced in in uh May of tw uh May 12th.
	Um these the the money printing that's gonna happen through the overnight repo market um and all and all those kind of indices there.
	Um basically the market could continue to keep going up, as well as we're heading into uh into an ICO season.
	We're having a lot of the largest crypto exchanges go public in 2026, early 26.
	We're having more ETFs.
	Like we're still we're we're not in October yet, but we still have a ton of ETFs that haven't passed yet.
	So we're about to go through a whole ETF boom that's still going on.
	And on top of that, we have a lot of companies that want to do treasuries.
	That means convert over them or like either add crypto to the treasury of like their main company or become like a company that only buys one crypto.
	It's happening even for Litecoin, believe it or not.
	There's like a hundred million dollar company from Charlie Lee that's uh there's gonna be buy a hundred million dollars of Litecoin.
	Another, I think there's a I think uh yes or no today there's it was announced.
	So we have a company that's buying a billion dollars of Avax.
	Another one just got announced today of another 500 million dollars of Avax that's gonna be purchased.
	So now there's like 1.5 billion dollars of buying pressure for what?
	For Avax now.
	Uh Crow tokens gonna have multi-billions of dollars of purchasing power coming from mostly the Trump administration and and World Liberty Fi.
	So the Crow tokens at 22 cents right now, too.
	So that's a decent token to buy.
	So you just try to look like if you're and there's new uh new coins coming out, actually.
	Um Bitfinix is coming out with a coin in the next one week uh called Plasma, which is gonna be a brand new layer one.
	And if Bitfinix is doing something, right, it's something to pay attention to, they're gonna try to eat a little bit of lunch uh from Tron's plate.
	Um we got all sorts of stuff always happening.
	Brand news.
	Cardano will do well as well every quarter.
	Cardano's gonna have an ETF too we got any more?
	646490394.
	Put your last four um donate with the last four and cut the line.
	Let's hit the phone lines because we haven't talked to anybody yet.
	And it's already 10 o'clock.
	We'll be on probably guys for like another 30, 40 minutes or so.
	Um Woman Propaganda's gonna be here in a little bit.
	We're gonna uh have an after hours with him, it's gonna be entertaining.
	It's gonna be only on Rumble and Kick and you know, X and everything else like that.
	So uh make sure to tune in there.
	Dion.
	We no longer do after hours.
	I know you guys are brought.
	Myron, where's all the after hours?
	It's all on kick and rumble only, guys.
	Also Twitter, but we cut those streams and we go to only rumble and kick at the end.
	So um who's up next?
	Or sorry, the phone lines.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Uh who is it who's called let's get them on.
	And then yo, tell us where uh your name and where you're calling in from and how old you are.
	All right.
	One four four eight, you're up.
	One four four.
	Shout out to three diglits.
	Um, can you hear us, bro?
	Um who is who's calling?
	Yeah, I love get them on.
	Yeah, okay.
	Um, yeah, we can hear ourselves in the back.
	Just mute the phone or TV or whatever you're listening to.
	I'm calling in from Florida.
	Okay, what's your name?
	Giovanni.
	Giovanni.
	Okay, Giovanni Tony from Florida.
	All right, cool.
	What's your question?
	Yes, my question is about the course.
	I just yesterday paid for it.
	And um I went on the telegram, and I'm putting my information, but I didn't get any response back to know if I'm officially in the course or not.
	Yep.
	So the process for that is basically when you buy the course within twenty-four hours, uh you should get an email um that's from us support at cultivate crypto.com or Charlie at cultivate crypto dot com.
	So double check your spam and promotions uh inbox uh in your email because sometimes it gets filtered out into there uh in some email services.
	If it's not in there, then just send us an email, support at cultivate crypto.com, say hey, I paid.
	Here's uh you usually get a receipt from PayPal Stripe or whatever service you bought it from.
	Give us that and say, Hey, uh, I haven't received this yet, and then you'll you'll get the telegram link uh there.
	We have uh basically uh what do you call it?
	One of our assistants on it.
	So um he's working hard every day, so he'll get that as soon as you get that to him.
	But uh yeah, once you're in there then um you'll have uh access to the whole chat and you'll be able to prepare for everything.
	We already have some uh resource links pinned at the top of that chat that uh tell you like stuff about wallets and different ways to custody coins and all that stuff.
	Yeah, and uh download Twitter if you don't have it already, because we're gonna give you guys like uh ways to research on Twitter and Instagram and stuff like that for crypto.
	But we'll we'll we'll have we'll teach you in the course.
	There diglits.
	Aside from XRP, Abox is the best buy right now.
	That's for everything in Telegraph.
	Oh.
	Say it again.
	Everything is gonna be in Telegram.
	Everything's gonna be in Telegram.
	You're gonna get two you're gonna get a link to the regular chat, and then another one's called the Links Chat, which is gonna give you like all the official videos and like official announcements, and then every day you should just check the the the top of the telegram chat if we as well pin some information, a stream, or basically the s the schedule, because uh we have the schedule up already.
	All right, perfect.
	Thank you guys.
	No problem, brother.
	Uh screen real quick for them.
	We should actually.
	Uh, you could pull it up real fast.
	We can read the chat while Mo pulls it up.
	But so uh Digglet's child to you for supporting the show, brother.
	Abox is the best buyer right now.
	Their subnets is white companies want to get involved with them.
	FIFA built FIFA collects on their blockchain with the World Cup coming up in twenty twenty-six.
	Food for thought.
	Yeah, the there's shit actually.
	The technology on Avex is incredible.
	Like we've been in it since last year, uh something since uh the last cycle.
	Uh we had a lot of video game companies jump in and use subnets and they worked flawlessly.
	Basically, you can you could have a coin that doesn't that that isn't an L1, just move over, create a subnet on Avax, and then basically you like their meme token or I'm surprised more memes don't do this actually.
	You can make like your own meme chain and use like Dogecoin as an example as the gas token for it and stuff like that, and then you bridge in and stuff like that.
	It's it's it's been used really well.
	What about pump fun?
	I think they get a lot of creators on their platform streaming live.
	Okay.
	Shout out to the trenches, man.
	Shout out to the trenches.
	Yeah, so uh shit.
	So Pump Pump Fun, Pump Pump.tv and sub they so pump fund uh started a streaming service kind of like like a kicker rumble as an example.
	Yeah.
	And they had to shut it down real quick because people were essentially torturing people on there, shooting guns at people.
	Uh like I'm gonna like I'm gonna I'm gonna hurt this person in a cage if we don't you don't put out fifty dollars in this coin.
	Like they're so it got shut down, now they cleaned it up.
	Because you had you had crazies on there.
	You had crazy people doing horrible things in there and then wow uh yeah, and then uh late and late nineties internet.
	It was it was insane.
	It was absolutely insane.
	It was like straight up live leak.
	Like so people are in their c you know, you had the E thoughts and you had regular crypto bros and then you just had crazies.
	Like people like if the coin goes to a million market cap, like I'll start shocking this dude in a cage.
	And of course they're friends and stuff, but then there's w there's videos that came out that started going like, Oh, wait, th this is starting to look like torture or weird.
	Like there's a lot of weird stuff going on.
	Um, and that's where all the memes like, are you new to the trenches?
	Are you new to the you know, dude missing teeth, hair fucking fried, like peanut butter over his fucking fake just craziness, right?
	So now they've cleaned it up, you know.
	Um now you have guys like Gainesy and Gainesy's kinda like one of the top guys on like pump.tv and stuff like that.
	He's uh streaming on there, he's from uh I think he's in Thailand.
	Um and you know, you're starting to have like kind of like Twitter celebrities launching YouTube channels but on that website and stuff to basically make meme coins and just kind of talk stuff and everything like that, and they're getting paid in tokens and stuff, but you also are gonna have that for radium, which is like bonk dot fund and you have Jupiter as well.
	So you kind of have like now there's like a three legged race now.
	Uh because beforehand, like I was not the biggest one of p uh biggest fan of pump.fund because you know them boys own it and all they were doing is they were taking them basically they made a billion dollars in fees and they were just dumping Solana.
	So Solana would be way higher in price.
	But every time they would make money, they just kept selling the Solana into cash.
	You can literally see it.
	Like they would just send money to Binance or this or Coinbase or Kraken, and they were just consistently dumping Solana the whole way up.
	So Solon Solana could have very easily been a hundred dollars higher if you didn't have these guys just consistently dumping Solana the entire time.
	Wow.
	But we wouldn't have had the mean coin run without them either.
	So it's kind of like, but you know, usually if you're a crypto company, you sell like you could have taken a hundred million dollars and had that for your treasury, but instead they, you know, they took almost like 800 to like a billion dollars of of funds, and now like because there's competition now through Radium, Bunk Fund, and like Jupiter, um, they're like they're now they just did a hundred million dollar buyback on their token, which doubled the price, and they're now like they feel the sweat now.
	So now they brought back their streaming service.
	So it's sort of like we're in the rumble kick wars right now, in like um, along with like there's basically a streaming work going on right now.
	Wow on Solana.
	Um guys, um, as you guys know, of course, also is up right now, join the crypto mindset course, man.
	It's uh only 997, bro.
	You'll be able to get in there and you'll make your money back immediately.
	Um it's gonna do you kind of want to explain the schedule to them real quick before we get in the next caller.
	Sure.
	You want to pull it up?
	Yeah, we can.
	There we go.
	There you go.
	Um, make it big.
	There we go.
	So um, this is the schedule for the Q4 crypto mindset course.
	Uh the webinars will begin on October 2nd.
	Oh, my birthday.
	That's fine.
	Oh, it's there.
	Happy birthday.
	Yeah, we didn't do a Zoom call uh bowling on budget.
	Yeah, yeah, we have one, yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Yeah, we get we have bonus webinars that we're gonna do.
	Return on flex.
	We get return on flexibility.
	Return on flex in one of those.
	Perfect.
	But um, yeah, so we begin on October 2nd, 10 a.m. and 10 p.m. is Eastern Standard Time.
	So that's 7 a.m., 7 p.m. uh Pacific standard time.
	And uh each webinar is roughly about uh three hours in total.
	Um, and we have about two hours of that focused on the main subject and one hour of QA.
	Um, and there's a there's a mixture of that depending on each webinar.
	But we're starting there with a customized orientation.
	So we want everybody to, as soon as they buy the course, um, to be put in the chat immediately, um, start talking with people, start figuring out uh like the different tools that they need to set up and everything like that.
	And we're gonna start polling the group and asking them questions uh about you know, where are they in their crypto investment strategies?
	Uh, where are they with their knowledge base, like all this different type of stuff?
	And we're gonna customize a lot of the information that we give to the people that are taking the course this time around.
	So um, this is a lot more what do you call it, easier to do with a lot of the AI technology that exists today.
	It's something that we haven't been able to do before.
	And so we're gonna it's not that we're changing everything that we're teaching here, where it's just that we're customizing it to the situations of people that are in the actual course.
	And then uh uh so we're gonna ask a lot of questions in there, we're gonna give a lot of answers to people's questions in there.
	Then we're gonna do the Q4 thesis, which we do this every quarter, which is what do we think is gonna happen in crypto over the next three months, and then how does that affect um the move possibly into next year?
	Uh so we go through uh a lot of different kind of war gaming type scenarios in there.
	You know, what's the most likely scenarios?
	What are the other possible scenarios and how do we hedge our uh situations against them?
	Uh then we have the risk management and security webinar.
	So this one we have uh at this point for two reasons on October 3rd, and we do two days on, two days off.
	So we you see the second and third there, then we have the fourth and fifth off, and then we go back on the sixth and the seventh.
	So risk management we put there before we get into a lot of you know the top 50 uh coin list portfolio strategies and stuff, because a lot of people go all in on one coin or they do stuff that we absolutely do not recommend, and then they get angry about it at some point in the future, right?
	Because they didn't take self-responsibility on the risk that they created for themselves.
	So we want to make sure that everybody watches this webinar before they we get into like, hey, here's what coins are good and stuff like that, so they really understand that.
	Also, um, it's not very often, but every once in a while, somebody will make a mistake with their own security.
	We talk about, you know, making sure you don't have one central point of failure, making sure all your money is not on a centralized exchange.
	You want your own wallets that you hold in self-custody of the coins yourself, right?
	So we're gonna go over that security, uh kind of security one oh one in crypto, and you know, make sure you do these best practices so that you don't get screwed.
	And one just one thing on that security part because like please do not use ledgers.
	Correct.
	Um, we've just found that people have gone there's all been a lot of hacks with people that have ledgers, and for the love of God, if anyone calls you or you try to every calling people, support lines fake.
	Everything's fake.
	If someone emails you, tells you you have to call this number, it's fake.
	There's no real okay, there is a real number, but it's no, you're not gonna call it's it's no.
	There's they're not gonna be able to get your money back.
	There's just you get you're gonna get scammed, or they use they like a let a lot of the ledger data.
	So people were using ledger, you know, some people have their house information, their names and stuff, you know, logged into some of some of these websites, it all got leaked, and scammers know that information.
	They're also looking on the dark web, and then from there, they're just they they can get they call you saying, Hey, we're from Ledger or we're from this organization here.
	You call them, you give them information, and then boom, you they jack you and they they steal all your money out of a bunch of wallets and stuff.
	So and this is still happening today.
	Um, so like I've you know, I really recommend Trezor, of course, but you know, we're gonna have safety uh we're gonna have like that safety class is gonna be really really important.
	But once you figure once you know how to do the safety, it it's it is it's pretty simple.
	I've seen the scam where they text you from Coinbase saying lies.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All like any text, no, don't believe it.
	Text an email, unless I literally just went to Coinbase and I deposited $30,000, or I just bought a a hundred dollars of a coin and you get an email and you're saying, hey, your your purchase of a hundred dollars.
	All right, cool.
	I just did that, right?
	But if you just get, hey, somebody withdrew a hundred thousand dollars from your account and you're like, dude, I don't got a hundred thousand dollars, you know, it's fake, right?
	Or they play games or they're like, Whoa, um, someone just try to withdraw $15,000 from Coinbase, and it's like, well, and then you're like, what the hell?
	Or someone just uh initiated a $15,000 purchase of a coin, though let's say Solana, Bitcoin, Ethereum, and then never click an email link.
	Look, email links are being they're fishing.
	They're they're used for phishing.
	No one's gonna call you.
	Don't don't believe uh if you would like I need I need MetaMask support fake.
	If literally there's algorithms and there's AI bots that if you type in um MetaMask support, you'll get DM'd to buy like 30 accounts all pretending to be like, hey, I'm from MetaMask, let me help you.
	It's you know, you're giving your money to a fucking Indian.
	Like I'm serious, I'm not even lie.
	Like or some guy from Bangladesh and shit.
	Like it's just Asia or Southeast Asia and stuff like these are just you fucking scummer the earth scammers.
	This is it.
	It says your coin based withdrawal code is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Please call us now for immediate action.
	Yeah, please call us.
	So you call them, please call us.
	It's a scam.
	Coinbase is so notorious.
	They would never expect you to call them.
	Yeah, um, okay, so let's uh let's knock out as many of these phone calls, guys, because we got a lot of people on the line still.
	Yeah.
	Um all right.
	Um, who's up next?
	All right, next eight, six, five, three, you're up eight, six, five, three.
	What's your name?
	Where are you calling in from?
	Yo, can y'all hear me?
	Yep.
	Uh my name's Feek.
	I'm from uh Atlanta.
	I'm 18.
	Cool.
	All right, that's your question, bro.
	I've been in the crypto mindset course Q3.
	I was gonna ask Charlie McGill.
	Um, what do y'all targets for if y'all were to open like say a fresh account?
	Um, how many X's would you think you would get by the end of Q4?
	I know you said um three X's for Q3.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Oh, sorry.
	So I'm just gonna give Avax as an example because a lot of the times when you look at some of the top layer ones, they'll give you kind of a benchmark for where things can go.
	So if we look at Bitcoin, Ethereum, and AVAX, just uh or and Solana as like maybe three or four examples, right?
	So Bitcoin, could it be uh lower by the end of the year?
	Sure.
	Could it be higher?
	Sure, right?
	But let's go with a scenario that um we pump higher because a lot of the data is basically telling us that with ETFs, uh uh rate cuts and all the things.
	Treasure companies, everything, right?
	So there's more money coming into crypto than there is supply, so the price usually goes up.
	So uh the projections for this year, let's say uh we we think about Bitcoin.
	So Bitcoin could get up to about 150 to 180,000.
	Could it go higher?
	Sure, but those are realistic targets.
	Then if Bitcoin hits those levels, Ethereum goes towards about 7500 to $8,000.
	Um, this is also the target for standard chartered bank.
	Um that is top end, by the way.
	Yeah, within this year, right?
	Yeah, top end.
	Uh and next year, we uh we do think we're gonna bleed into Q1.
	So uh I think we could actually go higher than those prices by the end of the bull market, but you're talking about within Q4.
	Uh so that's kind of your benchmark, and then you want to base what you have uh for possibilities of all their stuff, right?
	So Solana, I would say 420 to maybe 500 by the end of the year is something that could happen.
	Of course, none of these uh are guarantees.
	This is just possibilities.
	And then Avax, right?
	Either 60 or 90 dollars um is very, very likely if Bitcoin gets back above 125 or 130,000.
	So if you kind of look at that, right, for Ethereum, that's not quite a 2x for Bitcoin, that's that's less than that.
	Um, but for Solana and Avax, it's like a two or three X. So those are kind of like the safe moves that you can see.
	Something like Pengu, I think within the quarter, it might not end the quarter this high, but within the quarter, um, it could get towards 10 to 12 cents, maybe 11 cents, something like that.
	Um, it's like three and a half cents right now, so that's about a four X. And so then when you go further down the risk curve, right, you get more X possibilities.
	But I would say But the risk goes up.
	Right.
	The risk goes up massive.
	And you need and you need what the the if the here's the what ifs with like a pengu or like uh a uh uh a sausage party or like a bonk is that you need Solana to break its all-time high.
	So like some these coins will do really decent, but without Solana going past $300 and hold so once Solana goes to $300, $330, $400, then it's oh shit, it's Solana season, dog.
	It's meme season, and then these coins speculation-wise bonk will go up a lot on Solana, you know, you will have uh, you know, nobody sausage go up, you'll have um you know Pengu go up, which is one of the better coins, and you can make a lot of multiples on that.
	But if if Solana doesn't do that, then that doesn't happen.
	And then you're like, oh fuck, this quarter's wasted, goddamn it.
	You know, so I I think on an average, you know, anywhere between a two to a five X for most coins is realistic.
	Um and so like if you're getting gains of about like a three or a four X, right?
	Take your original out of that, um, take the profit there, even if you think it's still gonna go up into next year, um, secure that money so that way you know you're playing more with casino chips.
	But um, yeah, there's there's really good possibilities in Q4.
	If you look at Q3 versus Q4, Q3 was really good, right?
	We had a good time, we made some X's.
	Um nobody's sausage is really good.
	There's a lot of other stuff.
	But um Q4, if you look at uh returns on Bitcoin and crypto uh overall year on year, Q4 is uh almost always the best quarter.
	Yeah, and someone said right here, like Bonk's ass.
	I would have agreed with you, but I have to just be real.
	Like the the they have a partnership with with Radium now.
	Radium's one of the top exchanges on Solana.
	Um they're working with World Liberty Fi.
	They're the uh now uh radium have radium is essentially fusing their like their version of like pump.fund with bonk dot fund, and there's also gonna be a crow investment.
	So now you have basically Trump administration, crypto.com with crow token, you have you have radium and then bonk.
	So now you have you know uh uh basically a four-pronged sort of like thing on this meme coin.
	So it's like, well, there's enough, there's enough here, and on top of that, you have um this is the first coin I've seen that has this uh so far.
	I think it's turtle, I think it's turtle capital or uh two tel capital.
	Um they're launching a levered ETF for for bonk.
	I I think it's a two or three X levered as well as like an income version of it as well for Litecoin, uh, Avax and uh Bonk.
	I that's the first time it's happened.
	And so it's so I'm seeing okay, there's gonna be an ETF coming out for it.
	There's now the trend the kind of World Liberty Fi is behind it, now crypto.com is behind it, and on top of that, now Radium's partnership with it.
	So I'm like, okay, there's enough smoke there that I'm willing to take a shot on it to try to make some money.
	You see, not going blinding.
	Because I think I thought for real, I like I think Bonk was pretty ass too.
	But now with all this, it's like I'm I mean, fuck it, let's take a shot.
	But you have to, but you have to be willing to take that risk and stuff, and then but at the same time too, if Solana just shits the bed, then no no five, you know, if Solana doesn't cook, then it then everything else doesn't cook.
	All right.
	Orange management.
	I you got one more question real quick.
	You think that Suey would be on around the same level uh as Sonic by the end of Q4?
	I got a lot of Suey.
	That was one of the main things I took away.
	Yeah, from the Q. I think if you look at the Suey chart, it's much more coiled up.
	So I think it'll actually probably do better within the quarter by the end of the cycle, it might be a little different.
	But um, yeah, so he's my my main target on Suey once it breaks back above about four dollars and fifty cents, and especially once it gets to a new all-time high, uh, is it's baked in going towards ten bucks as long as Bitcoin's all-time high is not in this cycle.
	Yeah.
	And that that's one of the main things that we teach in the first four webinars of the crypto mindset course is that Bitcoin and Ethereum are our thermometers.
	If they're if like Bitcoin or Ethereum are going down, everything else isn't cooking.
	Nothing's cooking, basically.
	Only stable coins are cooking.
	Yeah, right.
	But if we have Bitcoin and Ethereum pumping up and they're chilling, or or Ethereum starts going up like crazy Ethereum, the the number I've been looking for Ethereum for a long time, and guys know this.
	I've been saying this for fucking six months, fifty-two hundred dollar Ethereum.
	Once we're at fifty-two, we're we're within four hundred dollars higher than then the all-time high in 21.
	That means Asia, because Asia always bought higher, the kimchi premium.
	In America, we hit 4800 on average, most, you know, Europe, Asia, and stuff like that.
	But um, but out out in like Korea, Japan, and some of these other, they paid up the nose, and then they are all-time highs like in the in the five in the low five thousands.
	So once we're at fifty two hundred dollars sustained, then you start having a lot of L1s and L2s running up because Ethereum is like tied to liquidity pools and DEXs to everything.
	Um, as well as like right now, the number one risk play right now is like Aster, right?
	It's the Aster Liquid, you know, like you have hyperliquid versus Aster, which is Binance versus essentially Ethereum, in a way.
	Like there's kind of a uh Joseph Lubin connection there now as well with like uh they just had MetaMask swaps are not gonna allow it with hyperliquid, and because you have to it's this shit's like gang warfare.
	I'm not even lying to you.
	You have to look at like who's who's on what gang, right?
	There's there's there's a Binance click, which is the eight was the Asian boys out of Singapore, and then you've got Joseph Lubin, and you got basically PayPal Mafia, you know, Trump administration mafia, and then you've got the the the Ethereum boys, and then you got the Solana VCs, which also are in bed with the Trump administration.
	Hey, don't forget T Dog.
	T Dog, yeah, T Dog.
	And seriously, but you have to learn we this is we teach you guys all this stuff because they're there the because this game has been now in a it's a game of like the big dogs basically, large uh organizations.
	You have to see who's clicked up with who.
	And like now, hyperliquid's basically clicked up with the Ethereum Foundation.
	That's why recently Binance started dumping a ton of Ethereum recently to basically fuck over hyperliquid because hyperliquid allowed you to short Aster now.
	Astor said, fuck you guys, we're gonna let we're gonna allow you to short hyperliquid now.
	So it's bloods versus credit in the crypto game.
	All right.
	Um who's up next on the line?
	Shots arc lightning with the 20 gifted on Robo.
	Thank you so much, bro.
	Dumb goes.
	Guys, we are gonna be doing after hours here pretty soon.
	I think we're gonna go live at around 11 o'clock.
	Um propaganda should be here very soon.
	I know some of the girls walked in.
	Um, so that's gonna be hilarious if you guys don't follow him on Instagram.
	Me and him did a bunch of clubs.
	We'll probably do some more as well while he's here in town in Miami.
	How dare you?
	So um, yeah.
	Who's um who's up next?
	Five five four three.
	You are up five, five, four, three.
	You are up.
	Hello?
	Yeah.
	Can you uh give us your um name and where you call from?
	Uh I'm Brown.
	I'm from South of Virginia.
	All right.
	I just had a lot of questions.
	I'm still like a beginning, so I wait.
	How are you, bro?
	Hold on.
	How old are you?
	I'm 20.
	All right, cool.
	Good age.
	Um, hit us with your most important question, bro, because we got a lot of people on the line, man.
	Yeah, I'm just saying.
	Uh so one of my most important questions is like, where's what app should I get for Bitcoin?
	Right now I have the crypto.com app.
	Okay.
	But like it doesn't like load into the app itself.
	Like I put my email and everything in it.
	That just cannot constantly loads.
	And you're in the States, right?
	Yes.
	So the simplest app if you're just trying to buy some Bitcoin Cash App, probably the easiest way to buy Bitcoin is through Cash App.
	To buy it, but don't hold it there.
	But don't hold it there, yeah.
	But like it's okay to leave it there in the beginning because you're learning.
	Yeah.
	But uh the easiest exchange startup that I've had.
	Uh I mean, it's it's basically Coinbase is the easiest to set up.
	Coinbase app.
	You can yeah, Coinbase, really easy.
	They the JP Morgan, like they're real, they're partners with JP Morgan.
	So if you have a JP Morgan account or Bank of America, it's quick like that.
	Um Cash Apps, really good.
	PayPal's another another one you can use as well.
	I wouldn't recommend Robinhood really, but like because it's kind of hard.
	Uh from there, uh we we always recommend our guys to get four apps.
	You know, crypto.com, Gemini, Kraken, and Coinbase.
	But Coinbase is the easiest one.
	It's they take time to set up.
	It takes time to set up everything, but we always tell people the Coinbase account will be fast, cash ups really fast as well, and then you could but CashUp only sells Bitcoin.
	Okay.
	Yes, I already have a two cash up.
	Uh I just don't use it because like uh I got crypto.com and I thought I was gonna show more of like Ethereum, crypto, and all that other stuff.
	So I just went to that.
	Yeah, they're just having those last seconds.
	Yeah, they're both fine.
	I'd be buying on either one, but uh like let's say if let's say you buy like five thousand dollars worth over the next you know two years, right?
	Um or even just over the next few months, whatever you're gonna buy, right?
	If you want to self-custody it, one of the easiest self-custody wallets is Exodus wallet.
	Yeah.
	If you download to like let's say you have Cash App or Crypto.com, doesn't matter which one you buy it on, buy it on there.
	Once you want to self-custody, the first self-custody that you can do really easily is Exodus wallet, move your Bitcoin over there.
	It doesn't really matter where you get it as long as you can move it to somewhere that you control it.
	Yeah.
	Or trustwallet, trustwallet's pretty good as well.
	Yeah, trustwallet's great.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And I got one last question.
	My last question is I'm trying to get in the course right now.
	Um just in case I can't.
	When we move the next time, uh when will uh next post be open?
	Next year.
	Next year.
	Yeah.
	So we're we're literally gonna take care of the guys from basically the uh October all the way into it, possibly even February.
	I mean, we might not even launch a course until February or something like that.
	So like uh we're we're we're trying to like help people manage this really delicate part of the cycle.
	A lot of people think that Bitcoin like the tops in the top's gonna be in and basically now or within the next month.
	And we we truly believe that you know it it's gonna continue on into twenty six and stuff like that.
	So but we're making sure to like protect everyone to take some profits, you know.
	Okay, and one last small quick question.
	Uh brother, we gotta move on, bro.
	We gotta move on.
	All right, who's next?
	Appreciate it, man.
	So we got you, but join join the course, brother, and you know, we we'll we'll take care of you.
	He's 20 years old, man.
	He's gonna kill it.
	I I love when the guy like 18, 18, 20, 20, anyone under 25, man, you're good, you're cooking at that age, like financially.
	And so it's very smart.
	Very smart.
	All right, next four six three seven, you are up four six three seven.
	All right.
	Uh hello.
	Yeah.
	Hey, what's up, Charlie Miguel?
	Um appreciate the time.
	Shout out to you guys.
	Um calling from Massachusetts.
	I'm right next to Northeastern Myron, by the way.
	Um but uh I got a quick question regarding um Sonic.
	Um I have a big allocation into it right now.
	Um I done my research, I looked into ecosystem earlier behind um uh Andre Frontier and everything like that.
	Yeah.
	Uh my question is uh do you see it reviving?
	Um considering flying tulip and you know, the USA um collaboration and everything like that.
	I I definitely do that's why I'm gonna I'm I'm basically going to make a DCA pretty soon at it's basically at it the all time low right now, the cycle low on this coin at twenty-four or twenty-five cents.
	And then I've said if it does crack below it, the next level would be probably like sixteen cents, and it I think it's gonna get pretty much maintained there.
	Um it could be that right now the lows in right now, and then we're gonna start going up.
	But yeah, all these things are gonna take time, so it's gonna be like October, November, December into January to get all the stuff up and running.
	But yeah, they're they're they've essentially cr uh allocated like fifty million dollars to set up their brand new headquarters of Sonic in New York to get compliant.
	They're going to try to get a Nasdaq listing.
	And uh with the new regulation on ETFs, it's very likely we might actually get a Sonic ETF before the end of 26.
	So there's a lot of bullish things.
	Uh they've also raised a lot of money.
	I think they're uh raising another 40 million dollars for flying tulip.
	Um, which you have to have like a million dollars to get in minimum, just FYI.
	But um, but flying tulip is basically the third r rate.
	So it's just like how we said, like there's kind of always three like there's always like three entities always, like kind of like pump dot fund, bonk dot fund, and then whatever ju uh whatever Jupiter's doing.
	Nothing.
	Um, but basically there's always kind of like three players, right?
	So you we're gonna have three players in the game.
	We have hyperliquid, Aster, and Flying Tulip.
	These are gonna be the three largest kind of perp dexes, like um, and basically uh which which is basically it's a decentralized exchange where you can long and short at like really fast speed and stuff like that.
	So um flying tulip, from what I've heard, is basically helping um a lot of the other competitors as well.
	So there's like the there's a lot of collaboration there.
	So like I'm still trying to figure out even myself is are they allying themselves with warm with Binance?
	Because that's what I've been hearing.
	But at the same time too, I know that the f the uh Sonic organization is really highly tied to the Ethereum Foundation and Get Lab.
	So like why wouldn't they help out Hyperliquid as well?
	So it's like what we're um so I think it's really w a good.
	Uh I think um I think when it launches, it could bring in like a billion dollars of TV L over to Sonic, but they're going to launch on multiple blockchains.
	So flying tulip is gonna launch on like on uh Solana, I believe, and then from there it could possibly go maybe even go into Avax and uh I don't think base protocol because they're competitors, but I think they're gonna launch on multiple places, Arbitrum possibly, and um there's just this big there's just gonna be this big game to basically set up these perp, these kind of decentralized perp dexes, pretty much.
	So um we're gonna see.
	We're gonna enter we're good, we're gonna right now it's kind of the two, it's Binance versus kind of Ethereum OGs, and we're gonna get like flying tulip jumping in.
	like i personally wish that flying to have launched earlier like it would have been nice if it launched before aster basically but but right now if you look on twitter and stuff aster is a fucking piece of shit that doesn't work because the hyper liquid guys say so but like it's performing really really well but then people then the hyper liquid guys are saying that aster's dog shit because it's been around for two years and then it just rebranded and just casisi pumped it and stuff i mean it's so funny to watch everyone cope and stuff because like now now uh hyper liquid isn't pumping anymore and arthur hayes just sold his entire supply so
	like it's it's straight up warfare right now and uh uh the thing is I don't I don't doubt CZ is the crime lord he is the most one of the most powerful people in crypto and um don't you don't fade C Z man always have probation four more months baby four more months.
	All right.
	So I'm still bullish on Sonic but like I like have my backs packed I'm just making my final DCAs and I'm just willing to take the risk basically so I like I'm buying here at 24 cents 25 cents and I'll buy if it goes lower I'll buy one more time that's it I'm not putting no more capital pretty sure I guess no problem brother.
	All right yeah who's up next yeah shout out to Tom Lee next up we have six eight three six you're up six eight three six you are up uh my name is Misha I'm from Idaho and my question is uh to Charlie do you still think that Bitcoin's gonna hit 200,000
	dollars at the end of the year GG baby and then um do you how can you tell when something's gonna completely dump and something's just gonna hit their all time low like for instance Sonic.
	Yeah that's a good question.
	Lows are easier than highs I'll tell you that much.
	Yeah.
	Um so just in terms of Bitcoin right so the the background with my bet with GG is that um last year uh or maybe no it was June of 23 he was on our podcast in Vegas uh both me and Miguel uh we're chilling with him he's a good guy and um what do you call it he was saying Bitcoin's never gonna hit 100,000 The banks won't let it.
	There's no way possible.
	And I was like, just sit back, wait.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	You want to bet on that, sir?
	And he said, hell yeah, let's bet on it.
	What do you want to bet?
	I said, I got the videos too.
	We got the videos.
	20K, 20K.
	Okay, great.
	And what he was betting was Bitcoin wouldn't hit $100,000, I said, by November of 2025, which is what, in a month and a half.
	And it hit that in December of 24.
	So about a year, almost a full year early.
	And Gigi, man of his word, we were at dinner with Myron and Miguel, me.
	Everybody, yeah.
	Yeah, everybody.
	What was that guy's name, the UFC fighter?
	Oh, Jake Shields was there.
	Yeah, we were having a good time.
	It was in Vegas, right?
	And Gigi was like, hey, good job on the bet.
	Here you go.
	So he paid me that.
	And he said, but would you like to double down?
	And this was about, you know.
	He parlayed you, dude.
	Right, he parlayed me.
	He did get the $20,000 he cashed.
	He did get the $20,000.
	No, absolutely.
	I had him sent it to me in Ethereum.
	Yeah.
	But what do you call it?
	Excuse me.
	Sorry, I have a cold right now, so I'm trying to get over that.
	But anyways, so he said, okay.
	He's trying to put it in his favor.
	Like, we had had a few beers and stuff.
	And he's like, okay, Gigi, what parameters do you want?
	And I said, my only parameter is whatever I'm going to bet is going to be by the end of 2025, December 31st.
	I get the whole calendar year.
	I ain't doing like November or some bullshit like that, right?
	And he said, same bet, $20,000, that Bitcoin won't hit $200,000.
	uh or I said uh like I said I wanted to do 180 but he wanted to do 200 and then he upped it at some point to 205.
	I'm like all right all right we'll we'll stop there I was like is it possible sure do I actually think Bitcoin's gonna hit 205,000 within this year personally I actually think I'm probably gonna lose the bet.
	So you know shout out to GG uh I'll pay you the 20k this uh January 1st you know it's all good um so it's kind of a funny bet so I think Bitcoin's much more uh much more likely to hit um between about a hundred and fifty to a hundred and seventy five K somewhere within that region my I was thinking I would have bet easily on 180k by the end of this year.
	Um by the end of the cycle though actually if we do get a speculative crazy blow off top um we could hit somewhere like you know uh 210 220 250 250 is my absolute like okay if we get a quarter million dollar bitcoin every bitcoin OG in the world is gonna be massively selling their bags and so we're probably not gonna get beyond there and that would have to mean we we basically pump into next spring so end of Q1 or beginning of Q2 next year.
	So um that that's kind of the background there.
	In terms of tops and bottoms, we actually have a uh course extension if you join this crypto mindset course called the Take Profits course, um, where we give you tons of on chain data that we've been collecting here since 2022 about how to spot tops.
	So I mean is we got literally uh like six, seven webinars um to describe that.
	So uh I would say get in the course to to jump on that.
	In terms of bottoms, right?
	Uh if you understand time and then a few different metrics, like um I'm trying to remember the name off the top of my head.
	Uh, but there's uh if you go into what used to be look into bitcoin.com, I think it's Bitcoin Magazine Pro.com now.
	Yeah.
	Uh forgot I I can't remember off the top of my head.
	I'd have to go open the chart and and remember it, but um there's this one chart on there basically that has the the lows for Bitcoin each cycle, and if you go below that line, um then you generally have a good time to buy.
	So we'll talk about that in the course, of course.
	Uh, but then also in terms of timing, easiest time for for Bitcoin's four year cycle low will be between uh October of next year uh to December of next year.
	Um that generally is uh the time where we get the the four year cycle low, and it'll be generally because Bitcoin every single cycle goes down a little bit less uh in volatility from top to bottom.
	Uh I think it was ninety-four percent a few cycles ago, then it was eighty-four percent, so it's a ten percent difference, and then it was seventy-seven percent, so that was not quite a ten percent difference.
	So I think this cycle will be somewhere between 70 to 70 percent 70 to 75 percent down, which if the top was already in, right?
	Which I don't think it is because a lot of the metrics just uh there's literally only like maybe one metric that hit uh but the other bunch did not.
	Um, but if we went down it was 124,500 high, it'd be like 130 or sorry be like 33,000 to 38,000 dollar bitcoin would be somewhere within that range.
	If we hit 200,000 Bitcoin, then 70 percent.
	Which would be a gift, by the way, if you could buy Bitcoin at 30 grand.
	Because the next number Charlie's about to say, oof it's about uh it's still gonna it's it's not cheap.
	Bitcoin ain't cheap anymore, you guys.
	Yep.
	And so if we hit 200,000 within this cycle, doesn't matter when it is.
	Let's say it's in February of next year.
	We hit 200,000 Bitcoin, but then it drops 70% from top to bottom.
	It'll the timing wise, it'll just be a shorter bear market, so uh based on four year cycles, so it will still be within that Q4 of next year.
	Um, but it'll be go from like 200,000 down to like uh sixty thousand dollars or sixty nine thousand dollars, which maybe seven if it's bought heavy right, maybe fifty-five somewhere within there, uh where Germany sold.
	So uh unfortunate for them, but yeah, somewhere with the question real quick.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Uh call it did that's your question?
	Yep.
	Oh, did you hang out?
	Yeah, and then yeah, I bought the bundle for the beautiful.
	Oh, beautiful man.
	No, you're gonna you're gonna be loving that data.
	Like you jump into that uh uh top uh cycle data and stuff.
	Like it's a lot of information that we had not given in previous courses at all for the last few years because we've been accumulating that data um for the top of this cycle.
	So you'll love it.
	And that's on the cash out course and stuff like that.
	So we're gonna take and then we're gonna be taking the guys for the whole I mean until the next crypto mindset course, which won't be till next year.
	Yeah, and you know, we're agreeing with Barry as well.
	I just want to learn technical analysis.
	This is the absolutely we got a whole webinar on that.
	I don't know Mo, you want to throw up that uh calendar one more time, just real quick.
	Here we go.
	But we have a whole technical analysis webinar there, practical technical analysis.
	So every cycle or every uh what do you call it?
	Not cycle, every uh course that we do, I do uh an updated technical analysis webinar.
	So we got practical technical analysis there.
	We got on-chain data, we got fundamental analysis um for smooth brains and giga brains.
	Like we have all the cores of what you need there.
	Um, and then we'll also give you guys some pre um some recordings from previous courses um so you can take a look at that information.
	So man, you're gonna be swimming in it, you're gonna love it, it's gonna be great.
	Awesome.
	And then we also get pre-precorded uh webinars from the past to also just give you more information on like technical analysis and fundamental analysis.
	So yeah, we take we make sure that you know what you're doing, brother.
	We appreciate it, guys.
	Likewise, man, have a lot of people.
	How old are you if you don't mind asking?
	Uh I turn 21 in August.
	Oh my god, bro.
	You're gonna have a you're you're gonna be cooking in 30s.
	I was working at Chick-fil-A, struggling, bro.
	Seven dollars an hour.
	That's crazy.
	Good stuff, bro.
	All right, I appreciate it, guys.
	That works.
	Uh we'll do some more chats here and close out because uh we do have to get the show running for up to hours.
	Yeah, uh, but let's see here.
	What's the next one?
	R Pedra.
	So 83 says, which is better to get your quarter for course or a year in your telegram paid chat.
	So if you are brand new to crypto, obviously the course 100%.
	Now, if you have a portfolio already and it's already larger, I think you take the bundle basically, just because you'd be able to navigate taking profits and then basically reallocating again on the next dip, whether it's in January or maybe it's middle of uh November.
	But the the telegram group is a like we have guys that just get into everything basically.
	Yeah, and I I I couldn't even mind just about in here.
	Um 997.
	Yeah, base price.
	Yep.
	Correct.
	247 chat, another price.
	Yes.
	But the gains long term over just a p the quarter itself for way more than what you spend.
	Oh, yeah.
	So it's a no-brainer for me.
	No, yeah.
	And then it speeds it's speeds run you to the point where like you know what you're doing, you know how to open exchanges, you know how to move your money in crypto, and you know, you really it one thing that we get uh like we get this all the time is that people take the course one time and then they're like, Oh, bro, like I listen to these other shows, and they're like I could tell they're lying to me.
	Yep, they're like they're totally they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
	And you know, we have there's much more critical.
	Yeah, much more critical.
	There's tons of these uh these kind of cleaned up accounts.
	Sort of like imagine like you have girls playing video games, you're like, these bitches don't want to play.
	Yeah, you're just watching for tits, right?
	Right.
	Like you're starting to get that in XRP.
	This is one thing I've been saying a lot.
	Like, I I gotta give them their flowers XRP a little bit, but like XRP's paying a bunch of bimbos on Twitter and on market Instagram marketing and stuff.
	They're like X like I'm the XRP girl.
	Okay, sure.
	You know, and and this is what we're talking about, but there's a guy version of that where like there's like a super cleaned up guy knows all this stuff and everything, like then you hear him on a live stream, like like we were talking about like I think Myron was saying this, he's like being live is like is like legitimately like the hardest thing to do and stuff because you're on you're all you're on the gun.
	You're on the you know, um if you fuck up, you fuck up.
	You have to really know your shit to do live streams.
	Where a lot of content in crypto is like pre-recorded crap.
	Like you could you cut all the ums and ahs out and everything like that, and yeah, as soon as you hear these guys talk, they're idiots.
	They don't know how to talk, they don't really they like the biggest thing is like they they start talking in like crypto terms, and like they're they're talking like re like they're not really they're they're getting the terms wrong.
	You're like it's it's like some of them are paid actors too.
	Yeah, there's a lot of paid actors and stuff, yeah.
	Okay.
	Uh what's the next one?
	The subject says 30k in debt, a 10% interest, uh 22 to 20 22k eth, 12k Avax.
	Should I pay off debt now or wait for higher prices to sell?
	So once again, 30k in debt, a 10% interest rate, 22k uh ETH, 12k ABAC.
	What kind of debt is that?
	What do you do?
	10% interest that looks like maybe a college loan.
	Yeah, it's kind of like a personal loan.
	Or a personal maybe personal loan.
	Not terrible, but I mean it it look so obvious, obviously, like you know you want to pay off a debt, but here's the problem is like you're like it's speculation right now, right?
	It's like it be like I personally, yeah, I'd wait.
	I wait to like hopefully hopefully it's not a credit, it's it's very very unlikely it's a credit card, it's probably a personal loan.
	Um, but the way I would the way I do it, I just I'd wait to get higher prices to then take profits on it and stuff like that, but you also gotta be able to stomach if like the prices go down, you just got I mean you have to take the L on it and stuff like no risk, no story.
	Yeah, right.
	And so and there's I wouldn't sell and there's always opportunities.
	I'll I'll take the conservative route and say, like, what if you did sell, right?
	Because let's say, for example, maybe um this guy's had this debt for a while, and he's like, This is the most money I've had in a while.
	I worked real hard for this.
	I'm up, let's say I bought Ethereum cheap.
	I've already won with these coins.
	Let's say you did liquidate your whole portfolio.
	Well, the the one risk of that, right, is like Miguel said, no risk, no story.
	You might be giving up uh further gains within this cycle.
	But if you did do the conservative route and paid off that debt, which is nice to be debt-free, that's what an amazing thing in this, especially in the United States.
	Um, and let's say you're debt free, right?
	Then what should you do?
	Then the next two years, you are working harder than anybody.
	You are basically out there hustling, trying to find as much money.
	Hell, go get some aluminum cans off the street.
	There's this guy in Brazil recently, the last five years, he's just been collect collecting aluminum cans, finally bought one big one full Bitcoin with that.
	That was his goal.
	And so do that for two years, really understand the industry, get in the course, you know, to get your foundation of the of there, and then just work really hard over the next two years because Q4.
	I didn't want to call it a course because you guys are gonna do Zoom calls with them.
	It's really like a coaching seminar.
	It's a boot camp, is really what it is.
	Because if it's just a course, It'd be like you download something, you watch it.
	No, on this one, it's like they're gonna you guys are gonna hold their hands, do two hours twice a day with them pretty much, if not more.
	Yep.
	Um the whole month of October.
	The whole month of October.
	They take a breakout streaming and they just focus on this the whole time, guys.
	So that's really a time to level up with cryptocurrency.
	And this guy's gonna feel better.
	So here's like I don't want to make the guy feel bad here, but look, he has like 34,000.
	If he pays off the debt, he's gonna have probably $3,500 left over.
	And then if the prices go up, he's gonna be like, I want to kill myself because like I could have I could have actually like paid my debt off had 60 or 70,000 in profit, and that's the no risk, no story.
	So like we can't we can't tell you 100% it's gonna go up right now.
	Because like if we would the market does what the market does, but I would take the risk, you're already there already, but like you'd be able to like with the left, even let's just say it started going down, you'd be you'd have enough profit.
	Worst case, you're like, all right, I got 20k left over to selling the Ethereum and ABX after it went down, and I'll be able to pay off that other 10k.
	Yeah, we and we give and we give guys the buffet of options.
	Hey, here's if you do this, here's if you do that.
	Here's the options, here's what you could do.
	You decide because you're an adult, right?
	Make more money and pay that shit off, bro.
	Yeah.
	A lot of you guys have like an earning problem, is is the issue.
	Yes.
	Right, is you just simply don't earn enough.
	Um, you're never gonna save yourself to being like rich or paying off your debt.
	You're gonna you're just gonna have to work more hours, right?
	Less time chasing after ass or watching sports or cracking a beer open with your friends, like you're gonna have to grind and like really lock in.
	And I mean like you know, sacrifice a social life for a while sometimes to pay that debt off.
	Like 30k is quite a bit, bro.
	And a 10% interest rate, it's manageable, but you don't want it to get worse.
	Yeah.
	So um you're like right now in that go between area where like this this is obvious obviously manageable now, but if you let it keep going, it's gonna get 10 times worse, man.
	So it's a t it's a 10, you have a chance to lose 10,000 bucks to possibly gain 60 to 70 grand.
	Yeah, and the risk reward is definitely in favor of this market.
	Yep.
	Well, yeah.
	So I would say hold on to your crypto and make more money, bro, and pay that shit down more aggressively.
	Um who else do we have?
	Who's up next on the phone lines?
	Um well, it is 1045, actually.
	We should probably get off.
	Oh, you got one propaganda in the house, man.
	We're gonna do uh great after hours with him, it's gonna be hilarious.
	Um Rex Kraken says, uh question right off now.
	Do you guys have an anyone for money Monday that works in a dietary supplement industry?
	I've created a supplement company and love to hear more about CMs, their marketing, etc.
	Um, bro, I've had Brandon Carter on, and we've talked about um, you know, supplement companies.
	Very difficult, bro.
	Very, very difficult.
	The um the margins are low, the cost of running it are high, especially if you're gonna have like high quality stuff.
	Um I've talked with both Brandon Carter and with um Bradley Barn about this, bro.
	It's not easy at all.
	Um and it's it's hard to do if you don't have like a personal brand, or like either A, you're a big influencer yourself and you're able to sell it, or B, you have big influencers that are gonna promote it for you.
	That's why they're money to push the marketing because that's a lot of money going through.
	Yeah, bro.
	So or do you vitamin shop or something?
	You have to have something.
	So I mean, if you got the dough and you got the capital and you want to try it, fine.
	But it's pretty hard to do, bro, to do uh supplement uh again in the summit industry when you don't have a platform because you're gonna have to rely on other people that do have a platform, them niggas are gonna charge you.
	They're gonna tax you.
	Yeah, they're gonna want a lot of money to promote your stuff.
	Yeah, listen to Bretton Carter, man.
	He knows he definitely knows what's he's been around a long time.
	The margins are very uh difficult.
	That's why most people I know that get into the summon industry, they don't last long.
	So go ahead.
	I I I I know I um if you search Brandon Carter Summon Industry, I think we talked about about it before with him in one of our earlier interviews.
	I'm sure you brought it up, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Uh, who's up next?
	But yeah, I just know from talking to a couple guys, it's difficult, bro.
	Uh I'm buying a quarter for CMC, very uh very excited.
	I'm getting my refund check from my school, October 10, 3K.
	Now, uh how much do you guys see me having at the end of uh CMC if follow correctly?
	It depends on what you're gonna do, bro.
	That like that's but everyone prop most people um profit.
	Yeah, but stack on majority make money.
	Yeah, we mentioned it before, like if you're taking some of the simple shots and and Bitcoin gets above 125 or 130,000.
	I think you could 2x that for sure.
	You can get that to 6,000.
	Pretty much if if they show up to every call, everybody's profitable.
	Yeah.
	If they show up to every call.
	If they show up to every call, actually do what we say, don't go all in on one coin, like actually listen to the best practices, absolutely.
	Yeah, like um, like I was saying.
	Yeah, I was saying on Friday, uh I just had the super chat come in the other week or whatever.
	One of our guys down in New Zealand was like, hey bro, I've been following you guys for about five years now.
	I finally got 800 ETH, and I was like, ooh, nice, good job, bro.
	Like, and that dude's been following it.
	He uh, you know, watches us with his family.
	He's taking it extremely seriously.
	And he's doing very, very well for us.
	Wow, good.
	All right.
	Um, what else?
	And they give advice, guys, from a beginner all the way to advanced.
	There's no way you're not gonna make money if you go to every class and listen to what they say, bro.
	Just I joined the course, but I didn't get the invite yet.
	Check your email.
	Check your email spam promotions.
	Charlie Cultivate Crypto.com.
	And Telegram.
	Get in the telegram.
	And if you still don't have it, send an email to support at cultivate crypto.com.
	We'll get you in there.
	Cool.
	What about a Pepe and Shiba?
	And these guys are going to be here until Thursday, guys.
	So and they'll be in studio on Wednesday as well when we do our show.
	So, you know, they'll be in the back chilling.
	So if you guys got other questions like this, get them in while you guys while you guys can.
	Uh what about Peipe and Shiba?
	With the ETFs.
	So yeah, so now that they've uh now they've uh we no longer have vague listing rules for ETFs.
	Uh Pepe ETF is possible, which is really good.
	Shibi and you is probably so they're probably gonna get ETFs, but very likely in 26.
	Okay.
	So it's gonna be maybe between quarter one, quarter two of twenty-six when those happen, just because you have to file an S1 and an S3 basically to get the ETF approved.
	So we're the the these companies that that uh did these for like uh XRP and Dogecoin and Solana did them in basically 24.
	Yeah, in order to barely have them come out and I know in 25.
	So they're I think they're gonna have them come out and they're not they're not being expedited, but like yeah, Pepe and Shiba are not having until 26.
	All right.
	If they happen.
	Who's up next?
	Charlie Miguel staying on for after hours.
	They'll be here in the back.
	Um propaganda's gonna be the special guest, but they'll be here chilling with us, um, you know, hanging out and stuff like that.
	Styles says, uh hey Charlie and Miguel, please give your price a prediction for alluvium.
	Should I buy more?
	Basically, look, um so stuff in the game fi sector.
	If Ethereum doesn't go up crazy, the the uh the uh the game fi sector is not gonna do well.
	One thing that the GameFi sector is waiting for, they're waiting for the brand new Grand Theft Auto.
	Grand Theft Auto is going to have you you need a big like like moment like that.
	Grand Theft Auto is going to have a crypto with it.
	You know, Rockstar is going to make a fucking fortune off of that new game, dude.
	When it comes out, oh my god.
	I know.
	It's they said sometime in 26, I don't know.
	It could be 27 when it comes out.
	But like it they're making like the previous Grand Theft Auto.
	I mean, it's the most profitable game of all time.
	It made more that game made more money than movies made.
	The whole movie industry.
	Well, video video games are the new uh video games are literally the number one form of entertainment now.
	They've overtaken movies and TV a long time ago.
	Yeah.
	So game five stuff, you guys, make like you can have some definitely, but it is the highest, it's pretty much the highest risk next to buying like vaporware NFTs.
	Yeah, I was gonna say, like, yeah, it's kind of killed it's died off a uh quite a lot compared to uh similar to NFTs.
	There's no hype right now.
	Yeah, it's just it's because there's it's a retail focused industry, right?
	It's not focused, it's not a wall street focused and wall money's coming in through Wall Street this cycle.
	So focus on the quality.
	It uh on the uh schedule.
	If you go back to the earlier part of the episode, we were putting up the schedule.
	We have a few different webinars uh where we talk about the difference between uh normal average every day, Joe, uh, and Wall Street money and how those flows kind of go uh around in crypto.
	All right, yeah.
	Uh uh, that's it.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Uh comedy skit, Mattel and Botello.
	All right, cool.
	Uh shout out Moon Gang powered by Torta Twitter.
	Um 30k and that we've got that one.
	Yeah.
	So glad I bought Aster at 60 cents up 10k since I mentioned it the last time you guys were on Lungin here.
	There you go, bro.
	That's that's seems good stuff, bro.
	All right, cool.
	So uh guys, um we are gonna um do after hours is 1052.
	I estimate we'll probably start around 1115, 1130.
	Guys, get in the course, man.
	It closes next Monday.
	Monday.
	Could we drop the rumble link for them in the chat on YouTube so they have it?
	The after hours rumble.
	Yeah, the afternoon.
	Yeah, the after hours rumble link.
	Yes.
	Or or the kick link, whichever one, just so they know.
	Guys, as you guys know, we no longer do after hours on YouTube for certain reasons.
	Yeah.
	We're gonna be doing it only on kick and rumble, so come on over, guys.
	Um and uh yeah, watch catch the stream over there, man.
	Rumble.com slash fresh fit, kick.com slash fresh upfit.
	Uh it's gonna be a good time.
	We'll catch you guys over there.
	Peace.
	Peace.
	I ran so far away.
	I just done.

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