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Aug. 29, 2024 - Fresh & Fit

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Does The Patriarchy Help Or Hurt Women? HEATED DEBATE w/ Haz

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	Thank you.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Fresh Your Podcast.
	After our transition with Joya Haas and some lovely ladies.
	Let's get into it.
	it.
	Let's go.
	What do you do?
	How many carrots, bro?
	Get out Get out It's the night Gonna happen In the night No control F*** out Put your shoes on outside You don't got to put them on in here.
	I know the night is not just what seemed.
	I must believe in something so I'll make myself believe it.
	This night and I will never tell a sign.
	If you get me, I will never tell a sign.
	All right.
	All right, and we are live.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Fresh Up Podcast, After Hours The Shaman.
	We are live on all platforms, Rumble, YouTube, etc.
	Go off.
	Except, not that one.
	I finally made it!
	But yeah, guys, quick announcement before we get into the show.
	Andrew Wilson actually had a family emergency, guys.
	He had to leave.
	So he's headed back over to the great state of Michigan.
	So he won't be here for tonight, unfortunately.
	And we won't be able to do the debate tomorrow between him and Haas.
	So we'll reschedule it.
	I think he's going to come back out here, actually, to do the presidential debate, cover that.
	So just be patient, guys.
	So we will definitely have him back again for that.
	And then what else?
	Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit.
	As you guys know, that's the home base for us.
	Dan Bilzerian interview dropped today, guys.
	I've had a discussion with Dan Bilzerian.
	Only about 30 minutes of it is on YouTube for certain reasons, because we talked about a certain thing that will get you banned.
	So, the full interview...
	Chris, we know what it is now.
	If you guys thought the Patrick but David interview was raw, make sure you watch the Rumble one.
	We went really deep into a certain topic.
	I didn't know Dan was that based though.
	I didn't know.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Yeah, no, he's definitely aware.
	So, great discussion.
	The full video's on Rumble.
	Half of it is on YouTube where we talk about dating and stuff like that.
	But once we get into geopolitics and what's going on and who runs this country, for obvious reasons, we have to put it on Rumble.
	So, go check that out right now.
	It's live right now.
	And then what I'll do is, guys, I'm actually going to post it on X as well.
	Let me know, guys, if you guys are enjoying me posting the videos on X after the fact.
	What I do is I post it on X. And the timestamps are there.
	So you're able to actually watch on X as well.
	So I'm doing that after all of our podcasts where I post it on X for you guys versus live streaming it because I'm banned from live streaming.
	So whatever.
	I got an argument with some idiots on Twitter.
	I got a phone call actually.
	What, you banned again?
	I got a phone call with Myron talking about niggas.
	Who called you about that?
	I won't say.
	But it was hilarious.
	Was it a black person?
	You responded to them wanting to kill you, and it was in self-defense, and they're mad.
	I'm like, bro, come on, man.
	Of course they, of course.
	They never take accountability for anything.
	At all.
	Fucking idiots.
	Anyhow.
	But anyway, yeah.
	What about you, Chris?
	Go ahead.
	I still work here, by the way.
	So, Chris, man, when are you coming back to the show, man?
	Hey, Chris, I'm like, nigga, don't worry about it, man.
	I just have one day a week, bro.
	Hey, listen, man.
	Shout out to the team, man.
	That's all I got to say.
	Follow me on my socials.
	I don't know yet.
	I'll let you guys know.
	I'm still working shit out.
	Actually, find me on my Twitch on Aaron Parkson.
	Shout out to the girls for coming on, and shout out to Bills and Moe, and yeah, let's have a great show.
	Speaking of We got a big announcement probably coming next week, guys.
	Next week.
	Some things are going to have to be changed around, but we'll talk to you guys about that on Monday.
	We got you guys.
	More than likely.
	I think Bill's has one announcement, Mike.
	Oh, Bill's?
	Oh, shit.
	Your mic is muted.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Shout-out to Zadrin's Kicks, Castle Club member.
	You know, he said you guys inspired him to make a sneaker business that makes him six figures a year.
	Wow.
	Good job, bro.
	Yeah, I remember him.
	Oh, yeah.
	Show me a little love.
	Okay.
	Well, that's love, bro.
	You got you some dunks?
	Yeah, some dunks.
	So, shout-out Zatter's Kicks.
	He's in Castle Club.
	Go follow him.
	Shout-out to all the guys that give us...
	You guys give us some crazy gifts, man.
	We got Cartier glasses.
	Yeah, Cartier glasses with Jordans.
	Shout-out to you guys, man.
	You know, Chris even got some sneakers, bro.
	Yeah, man.
	To get a gift as a dude is rare.
	Do they fit?
	Yeah, man.
	Yeah, that fit, man.
	Okay.
	It wouldn't fit, though.
	Studio kicks, man.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status.
	If you want to, of course.
	Your body count.
	We'll start right here.
	Welcome back to the show.
	Hey, thank you.
	My name is Tina.
	I'm a health investor.
	I also do music.
	I record on a ride.
	And then I model as a hobby.
	I'm 26.
	Okay.
	You said you model as well?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then dating status?
	Uncompromised.
	I'm in a relationship.
	Okay.
	You can just say that next time.
	Alright, and then education level?
	Highs?
	I went to school for psychology.
	I didn't graduate, though.
	So high school?
	No, some college.
	Did you get your associates?
	Did you get your associates?
	Uh, no.
	So high school is the highest completed.
	It's fine.
	Okay, I guess.
	And then, uh, your parents, are they still together?
	Nope.
	They're divorced.
	And birth control?
	Um, uh, yeah.
	I do protection.
	Yeah.
	Great.
	Awesome.
	Okay.
	Where are you from originally?
	I'm Venezuelan.
	Where'd you go to high school?
	I'm based in Miami in Chicago.
	I mean, as my adult life, but I'm from Venezuela.
	I went to school there.
	Okay.
	You said you do modeling and music?
	Yeah.
	What part of Venezuela?
	Maracaibo.
	Maracaibo?
	Maracaibo.
	Oh, nice.
	Chama.
	Maracucha.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	How do you know that?
	Don't ask her.
	Yeah, don't ask her.
	Anyhow, you were on the show before, right?
	Yeah.
	What happened to that show, Chris?
	Didn't she get like...
	Something happened on the show last time.
	No, she good.
	Okay, cool.
	I think I got bullied because I started rapping.
	Oh yeah, that's what it was.
	Your crowds were terrible.
	Okay, never mind.
	What about you?
	Welcome back.
	Hi, my name is Dada.
	I'm 24.
	Dada?
	What's your name?
	More like stupid.
	- Yeah, I can help you, bro. - There you go. - Sorry about that.
	My name is Dara.
	I'm 22 years old.
	My birthday was actually yesterday.
	My mother is a Virgo.
	What did you do for your birthday?
	I just had a dinner.
	Your man didn't take you out nowhere?
	I don't have a man, I'm single.
	Okay, where are you from?
	I'm from Miami.
	Okay.
	What do you do for work?
	I'm a server and I'm a beginner artist.
	Okay.
	Like artists, like you paint, you draw, music?
	Sketch and paint.
	Okay.
	Highest education level completed?
	I finished high school and I'm in college right now.
	You're in college?
	Okay.
	What do you major again?
	Business administration.
	Okay.
	Do you want to say where you go to school?
	You don't have to if you don't want to.
	Miami.
	In Miami.
	That's enough.
	In Miami.
	Okay.
	And then, relationship status?
	Single.
	All right.
	Are your parents still together?
	No.
	Okay.
	And then your favorite question, Fresh?
	Birth Patrol?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Body count?
	I mean, you're in a smash on your birthday or something?
	I'm single.
	Nobody.
	Okay.
	Lovely.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name's Tati.
	I came actually to Miami to start my undergraduate career here and I'm originally from Maryland.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What part of Maryland are you from?
	I'm from Laurel, Maryland.
	It's right in between Baltimore and DC. How old are you?
	I am 24 years old.
	Are you pursuing, I'm assuming you're pursuing your master's degree?
	I'm actually pursuing my doctorate.
	Future MD, y'all.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm a PhD.
	What do you do for work right now or are you a full-time student?
	I'm actually in my gap year right now.
	I did an undergrad in biochemistry pre-med and then right now I'm the operational director for a med spa here in Miami.
	I love it.
	How long have you been in Miami for now then?
	I've been in Miami since 2018.
	Oh.
	You've been here for...
	Okay.
	Hold on a minute.
	You look kind of familiar.
	I do.
	You do, too.
	You do, actually.
	You do look familiar.
	You guys go outside a lot?
	Party a lot?
	No, but did you come shoot anything at our med spa, maybe?
	AFL Beauty Bar?
	With Kevo?
	Yes!
	AFL Beauty Bar, baby!
	Yeah, there you go.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's right!
	This nigga Fresh, bro.
	You went to a beauty spa?
	Don't ask.
	Don't ask.
	That didn't happen.
	Move on.
	It's all for marketing purposes, okay?
	Move on.
	What did you have done?
	Independent contractor.
	Fresh, what did you have done?
	Yeah, Fresh.
	You look great.
	No, no, no.
	Man, don't lie to him, man.
	Your forehead has never looked smoother.
	Don't worry about it.
	All right.
	Highest education level completed for you, so the bachelor's degree?
	Yeah, so far bachelor's degree.
	I did a double major in chemistry and biology in pre-med.
	Where'd you get it from?
	I went to Barrie University, Miami, Florida.
	You said Barrie?
	Yep.
	That's on the hood, man.
	I mean, if you consider Miami Shores the hood.
	It's not a little heady.
	Relationship status?
	I'm currently single.
	Still?
	Are you...
	I mean, Miami.
	Hard to be fucking...
	I did recently get out of a relationship, but right now, as of right now, I am single.
	Who far was it?
	His or yours?
	His.
	How long were you guys together before?
	Oh, pretty fresh.
	It was only like six months.
	Doesn't count.
	How long were you guys together?
	Literally.
	Oh, you're saying, okay.
	How long have you been single then?
	Since May.
	Okay.
	And name one thing he did wrong in the relationship and one thing you did wrong.
	He cheated and I didn't communicate my boundaries enough.
	He cheated on you?
	That's crazy.
	Okay, but he told you that he was going to be monogamous?
	I mean, Beyonce got cheated on, so...
	Are you Beyonce?
	I'm not Beyonce, but I'm saying if she can get cheated on, anyone can get cheated on.
	But you didn't deserve that.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I don't think anyone deserves to be cheated on.
	He's an asshole.
	He's an asshole.
	Okay, so would you say that cheating is like fairly normal and it always happens?
	I wouldn't say it always happens but I would say that you know I feel like in this culture and society today it's more accepted and it's more accepted to fix the relationship after like a cheating scandal or you know you want to cooperate with your partner a little bit more I'm a little bit different if you violate my boundary in that aspect you're not faithful to me like I'm being faithful to you then I don't think there's a need to pursue the relationship it's not fair It's definitely done.
	I feel like if I'm trying to give you, like, you don't have to give 100% every day.
	You're a human being.
	But at least, like, bare minimum, you could do is, you know, be faithful to your relationship.
	Beyonce stayed, you know?
	She stayed, I didn't.
	Good one, Christy.
	She did stay.
	That's for her, though.
	That's for her situation.
	I think her man's also, he's, he got money.
	Yeah.
	Was your guy broke?
	I wouldn't say he was broke.
	He was working on his career.
	If you have money, would you stay though?
	If you have money, would you stay?
	I don't even know.
	Personally, I don't care.
	I don't care if I'm crying at all.
	I shouldn't be treated like I'm worth less.
	If I'm giving you my energy the same amount, I feel like you should be putting that in.
	Regardless if you're rich or not, I don't care.
	Why would I be in a relationship with you just to cheat on me?
	Period.
	Just don't be in a relationship.
	Yeah.
	I'd rather not be with you.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Or just say we're friends and it is what it is.
	Do you know how many, like, money, everyone can have money.
	Yeah, everyone.
	It's not, especially in Miami, do you know how many people?
	Come on.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Why would I stay with you just for you to cheat on me?
	Facts.
	Just the math that's money, guys.
	Nobody want no community D. Exactly.
	Watch out for your health.
	Alright, so to you, monogamy is a two-way street.
	Monogamy is a two-way street, 100%.
	Okay.
	What if he had told you up front, like, hey, look, and you were successful, hey, I want multiple women.
	Would have you been okay with that or no?
	Or is it the deception that pissed you off?
	I mean, if at that time I was interested in pursuing a relationship where it was open and we weren't serious like that, I didn't think that I would pursue a monogamous relationship with that person, then maybe I would be open to that.
	But if I genuinely loved that person, I felt like I could pursue a connection, I'm too greedy.
	I'm selfish.
	So he basically made you think that he was being monogamous.
	That's why you're mad?
	Yeah.
	If you're communicating to me that you're on the same page as me, we're fully 100% monogamous, then I'm going to assume that.
	So if you had money and status, you might rethink it.
	100%?
	Who wouldn't?
	Okay, that's fair.
	Yeah, who wouldn't?
	Okay, and then, uh, you said birth control for you?
	Yeah or no?
	Um, it depends on your body type.
	It depends on who you are as a woman.
	No, I mean, for you.
	Do you use it or no?
	Me, personally, I actually do use it, yes.
	And then, real quick, how long you been with your guy?
	Venezuela?
	How long you been with your guy?
	Forgot to ask you this.
	Um, I think it's about to be two years.
	You think?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I'm assuming it's been on and off.
	How long has the most recent stint been?
	How what?
	Okay, so how long have you guys been going consistently?
	Yes.
	Since now?
	Since you guys are together now, how long have you guys been together consistently?
	Three months, four months, a year?
	Yes.
	With no breakups?
	Did you smoke before coming here?
	Yup!
	No.
	Oh.
	I can't tell.
	No.
	Yup.
	No.
	Um, you know what?
	Um, it's been complicated.
	So, it hasn't been like a, it hasn't been like a solid, um...
	Off and on.
	It's been a solid off and on, but it hasn't...
	So how long has it been on is my question.
	Yeah.
	Um, I mean, it's been two years, you know, um...
	But...
	This is going nowhere.
	But it's been off and on.
	So?
	No, but I'm asking, like, how long has it been on recently?
	Yeah, like...
	I mean, it's always on, because we're always talking, you know?
	So, it's not off and on, then?
	How?
	You know, like, when you fight and, like, go part ways, it's kind of like a...
	And you hate each other for a little bit, it's like a...
	Okay.
	How long has it been since you guys fought?
	How about that?
	Last time?
	Yeah.
	How long has that been?
	Five months.
	There we go.
	Thank God.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Smooth five months.
	Two years total, but five months, no issues.
	All right.
	What about you?
	What's your name?
	My name's Ava and I'm from Arkansas.
	I've been here for like two months.
	How old are you?
	22.
	What part of Arkansas are you from?
	Northwest Arkansas.
	What's the name of the town?
	Fayetteville, Arkansas.
	Do you know it?
	Ever heard of her?
	Do you know Fayetteville?
	Uh, I know some hoes there.
	Oh, okay.
	You fucking wear razor bags.
	I see you fresh.
	I see you.
	Woo pig.
	I just know some hoes there.
	I've never been there.
	Oh, it's a shame.
	Technically.
	Okay, what do you do for work?
	I'm not started barber over here yet, but I'm a barber and waxer.
	Okay.
	So you cut men's hair?
	Yes, I'm like a cosmetologist.
	Okay.
	Are you good though?
	I am.
	Okay.
	I am good, thank you.
	Cut his hair first and let's see.
	Deal?
	What'd you just say?
	No, she cut your hair.
	No, no.
	Cut his hair first and then I'll come to you after.
	Cool?
	Oh, okay.
	Deal.
	Awesome.
	Okay.
	Highest education level completed for you?
	Um, high school and then trade school.
	Okay.
	For hair or cosmetology?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Um, you live here in Miami now or are you just visiting?
	I live in, yeah, Fort Lauderdale.
	Oh, okay.
	How long have you been here in Florida then?
	Two months.
	Oh shit, just moved here.
	Okay.
	Uh, hi, oh no, relationship status for you?
	I have a man.
	Okay.
	How long have you been together?
	Like a year.
	Okay.
	How'd you guys meet?
	Uh, at a bar.
	In Florida?
	No, in Arkansas.
	He's back home.
	Oh, so you're single.
	Got it.
	She's single, man.
	She's cheating, man.
	Come on, man.
	It's too far, bro.
	It's too far, man.
	Come on, man.
	It's not too far.
	I'll see him soon.
	Yeah, soon as...
	Is it open?
	Relationship?
	I didn't say that.
	So is Monogamous with him and you?
	Uh, yes.
	Really?
	That's exciting.
	Okay, Debbie's in the chat.
	Alright, is he also in the cosmetology industry or does he do something else?
	No, he's getting into music.
	Oh yeah, he flogging for sure, man.
	Is his name Jacob?
	No, his name is Three Dead Idols.
	Oh yeah, he flogging, man.
	Oh yeah, with that name.
	Three Dead Idols?
	Yes.
	Is he a rock star?
	Yes.
	Rock star, rapper, all of it.
	Oh yeah, he flogging for sure.
	Just gotta get like Megan Fox.
	Do that retro thing.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Are your parents together?
	No.
	Yes.
	Yeah?
	Yes.
	They are?
	Okay.
	Your biological parents?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Birth control for you?
	No.
	Alright.
	Oh, what's your ethnic background?
	I'm white.
	White?
	Okay.
	Oh, basically.
	And then, what's your ethnic background?
	I forgot to ask this.
	Me?
	Yeah.
	Hispanic or white or...?
	Yeah, I'm mixed.
	Both.
	She's both.
	So my mom's Puerto Rican and my dad's Irish.
	Okay.
	And then you are black or?
	I'm Haitian.
	I was gonna say, okay.
	Sucka fit!
	And then you said Venezuela.
	Okay.
	Alright, cool.
	What about you?
	My name is Fatima Love.
	I am Palestinian, born and raised in New York.
	And I am 40 years young.
	40?
	Yes, sir.
	Are you from New York City?
	I'm from New York City.
	Born in the Bronx, raised in Queens, Manhattan.
	I've lived everywhere in New York.
	You are?
	Everywhere.
	Every the fuck were.
	And what do you do for work?
	I'm a CEO, entrepreneur.
	I own medical practices across America.
	I empower women.
	That's what I do.
	Okay.
	You said medical practices.
	Are we talking about like doctor's offices?
	Actually, we do aesthetics, regenerative medicine.
	We do longevity, aesthetics, like I said earlier, but we also do urgent care visits as well.
	Okay, so basically you own the establishment and doctors practice under you.
	Correct, yes.
	Multiple establishments.
	Multiple locations.
	Okay, and then are these doctors, are they like primary care physicians?
	I have primary care physicians.
	I have doctors that like...
	Classic surgeons.
	Classic surgeons, but like some really, really like are into regenerative medicine and like helping people with like pain management.
	So we just have different doctors across the board and they just do different things in each office.
	Okay.
	So you take on, I'm assuming the business proposition is you take on the liability of owning the practice or whatever and they just work under there so they don't have to work.
	I own the practice but I'm also a CMA so I do some of the medical procedures when I have to.
	Like I get my hands dirty but I'm pretty much the owner.
	Okay.
	And a CMA stands for?
	Certified medical assistant.
	You're allowed to do certain medical procedures and injections under the doctor's supervision.
	Gotcha.
	I actually also empower women.
	I have a school where I get people licensed to do this.
	Nice.
	I teach people how to do the injections, we teach them to get the licenses, to learn how to do all this stuff, and also how to open a medical spa with all the compliance and everything.
	Okay.
	So you own the spa, the doctors work underneath you, so they don't have to worry about paying overhead and all this other stuff.
	You take care of the logistics, it sounds like.
	Yeah, they're all 1099s.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	So they go from place to place, hospital to hospital.
	Sure.
	Alright.
	Highest education level completed for you?
	Associate's degree, but then I dropped out and I never finished because I went to school for dental hygiene and I totally didn't want to do that anymore.
	Okay.
	Relationship status?
	Married.
	Happily married.
	Okay.
	How long have y'all been together?
	Five years.
	He's the love of my life.
	He's just an amazing human being.
	How'd you guys meet?
	We met partying in Tulum.
	I had a nose cast on.
	I had a Faha on.
	Did my BBL three weeks out.
	And I went with all of my friends partying because they wanted to go to Tulum.
	Wait.
	Yeah.
	Question.
	How old is he?
	He's five years younger than me.
	Okay, I thought he was like 60.
	He's five years younger.
	So y'all met like 29?
	No.
	We literally met in 2020 when it turned 2020.
	I was going to say, because Tulum was like...
	COVID happened three weeks after we started dating.
	Wow.
	It was one of the few places that was open the whole time.
	Yeah, Salome.
	It was Salome.
	And then, he's from Cali, so he, like, we were out in Cali because I also have a location and a house out there.
	California?
	California, Los Angeles.
	Okay, okay.
	Beverly Hills.
	I wasn't sure if you meant Cali, Mexico.
	Oh no no, California, LA. So he was out there and like when COVID happened he got on a flight for $20 and he came to Florida and then the whole world shut down because we were open still here on the East Coast.
	Everywhere shut down and then Florida and Atlanta was still like open but then we ended up closing a week later.
	Now I'm curious, who makes more, you or him?
	Oh he's a stay-at-home dad.
	He gets whatever the fuck he wants.
	My baby gets whatever he wants.
	He's a stay-at-home dad.
	We have a three-year-old son, and I'm so proud because my man was making like 200k before we met, like working at the most prominent restaurant in Beverly Hills, and he sacrificed that to follow me.
	Was he a manager?
	No, he's a chef.
	My man could cook.
	My man could throw down.
	He could cook.
	And he also did front end of the house and back end.
	So he was responsible for a really prominent restaurant in Beverly Hills.
	And the most beautiful thing is that he was able to follow me on my dream.
	And just say, okay, I believe in you and I'm going to follow you.
	Because obviously California was still closed at the time and only medical practices could be working.
	Remember we were the first ones that could open?
	So he left L.A., he came, he followed me on my dream, and we've just been building ever since.
	And then we got pregnant, because COVID happened, and we was just, you know.
	That's beautiful.
	Yeah, it's beautiful.
	That's great.
	And he's the most incredible father.
	Like, I honestly have never met a man as, like, powerful.
	I've dated guys with money.
	I've dated guys in power.
	We do, yeah.
	I think that he's way more of a man than anyone I've ever met because he can sacrifice his life to stay at home with our son because the most important thing, yes, is the mother, but having a father figure for your child?
	I don't need the 200k, baby.
	You can stay home.
	I got this.
	So is this what you tell them when you go out to clubs and shit?
	He's a real man.
	He's a real man.
	No, no, you, you.
	When do you go out to the club, girl?
	She'll be in bed at 8pm.
	You gotta pay me to go to a club.
	Is he here in Miami or in Cali?
	He's here.
	He's here.
	But he's from Cali, right?
	He's Italian.
	He was born in Rome and he was...
	Forget about it!
	Alright, alright.
	Once you're happy, that's all that matters.
	I'm very happy.
	We're very happy.
	He's happy too, apparently.
	I'm so lucky.
	He's the best thing that ever happened to me.
	Aww, that's sweet.
	Hold on, hold on.
	That's your soulmate.
	I have so many questions right now.
	It's the truth.
	Just one before we continue real quick.
	So is he happy you think?
	I think he's very happy.
	He's so obsessed.
	We're obsessed with each other.
	Even after a kid, when you think, oh my god, the stress, and it could get stressful, especially when you have, like, a toddler at this age, but we're obsessed with each other.
	Like, that's my best friend.
	That is my best friend.
	I'll do anything.
	He gets Rolexes, Mercedes.
	I buy him whatever the fuck he wants.
	That's my baby.
	I will do anything for him.
	I just got back a week ago, and I flew us across the world, business everywhere.
	He can...
	I will literally sell my blood.
	I got friends.
	You look so good also.
	How do you do a lot of that?
	I think Bill's in your Rolex, man.
	You got the skims on too.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	Listen, man.
	And listen, I tell women how to be like this, so I'm helping y'all out.
	I'm empowering women to be like this.
	Ask about me.
	I ain't getting married, but...
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Well, birth control for you, yeah?
	I've never taken birth control in my entire life.
	I'm scared.
	Because that makes you think...
	It makes your body think you're pregnant.
	No offense to anyone who has to.
	I respect that and for other reasons.
	But, like, you take birth control and it makes your body think you're pregnant every day.
	That's got to be a little...
	Like, I would be crazy on birth control.
	I think I would be a psycho.
	Are your parents still together or no?
	My father passed away, so no.
	Okay.
	So your mom is widowed, but they were together before.
	No, I'm lying.
	They were divorced way before.
	They were divorced way before.
	Okay.
	Are they both Palestinian too?
	Yeah, 100% Palestinian.
	Were they here in the States?
	So they came here super young on asylum.
	When?
	When they were like 17 or 18.
	You said you're 40.
	So they came in like what, the 70s, the 60s?
	Probably the 70s, I would say.
	And I lived in a refugee camp, actually.
	I came back in 96.
	Although I was born and raised in New York, in the Bronx, and lived in Queens, I lived abroad for a few years.
	We lived in a refugee camp for five years, and then I came back to America in 96.
	Yeah, you're old, yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm young.
	Listen, people don't get lucky to be this age, okay?
	It's a blessing.
	Listen, I'm shitting on these 20-year-olds.
	You made it out.
	What happened for you?
	Thank you very much.
	What about you?
	Name?
	My name is Jessica.
	You can just call me Jess.
	How old are you?
	26.
	Where are you from?
	North Carolina.
	What part of North Carolina?
	Goldsboro.
	What do you do for work?
	I'm a content creator, I do UGC content, and I do online coaching, so I help women grow their glutes.
	Okay, so finish trainer?
	And I do modeling in Miami as well.
	Alright.
	Are highest education level completed?
	I have a bachelor's.
	In?
	Marketing analytics.
	Where'd you get it from?
	UNC Charlotte.
	Okay.
	And then, relationship status?
	Single.
	Alright, are you parents together?
	Yes.
	And birth control for you?
	No.
	Alright.
	And then ethnic background is?
	I'm black and Thai.
	Hey y'all!
	And body count?
	I'm not gonna say.
	And then you're full Palestinian, right?
	100%.
	What about you?
	Hey y'all!
	My name is Lauren Welch.
	I'm 26.
	I'm born in Miami, but I went to school in LA. I got my bachelor's.
	Do you live in Miami now?
	Yes.
	What do you do for work?
	I am a marketing director for AFL Beauty Bar.
	Okay.
	Is that...
	Oh, so you girls work together?
	Yeah.
	How many of you work for her in here?
	Let me ask you.
	That's the CFO.
	That's the director, marketing director.
	Those are my left and my right.
	Shout out to Smiley, by the way.
	Shout out to Smiley.
	Where you at girl?
	Now it makes sense.
	Smiley normally brings hood chicks.
	But that's my baby.
	She's the boss babe.
	Makes sense.
	She bought Mercedes for her baby daddy.
	Who?
	I bought two for him.
	Yeah, but these girls are like educated.
	Oh, you're not happy?
	Are you disappointed?
	Normally she brings like, yeah.
	I told her I stopped doing that shit, bro.
	Yeah, the last girl that she bought, fought in the elevator.
	Oh no!
	Those were the girls who were referencing.
	So that was crazy.
	Yeah, I told her I stopped doing that shit.
	Yeah, I wasn't here for that one.
	Okay, highest education level.
	Oh no, you said your marketing director, highest education for you?
	Bachelor's degree in University of Southern Cal, Dramatic Arts, Full Ride.
	Let's go!
	Period.
	Was it an academic scholarship?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Relationship status?
	I'm in a relationship.
	Okay, how long have y'all been together?
	A year.
	How'd you guys meet?
	Through a co-worker.
	Okay.
	Friends of friends?
	Yeah.
	Was it from the spa or some other, your prior job?
	Prior.
	Are your parents still together?
	No, but I have a stepdad and I have my dad and they're both fully involved in my life.
	Okay, so who was most, I guess, did your stepdad raise you more or your biological dad?
	Biological dad, financially, stepdad, emotionally, and physically.
	Okay.
	That's all you need.
	Oh, he beat your ass?
	What?
	Is that English?
	I don't know.
	It's our thing.
	It's our thing.
	Interesting.
	Pigeons are watching this shit right now saying she's spitting.
	I can't even do it, bro.
	I can't even do it.
	She's cooking.
	Pigeons are watching this shit.
	I'm going to shit on her.
	That sounds like a fart.
	Birdman, baby.
	Okay.
	We'll be serious here.
	Okay.
	Bird control for you?
	Bird control?
	No thank you.
	What's your athletic background?
	I'm Haitian American.
	Hey!
	Let's go.
	Is that some French in there?
	Yeah, she put French in there.
	Yeah, Creole and French.
	But you speak more French.
	I like that.
	You speak more French.
	Okay.
	So I studied more French in school, but my family speaks hate.
	Oh, la la.
	Oui.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Okay.
	Welcome back.
	Hi.
	And then, Haz, we're going to you, and then you kick off the first question after these two.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Sorry, go ahead.
	What's your name?
	I'm Denise.
	I'm 36.
	Where are you from, Denise?
	Yes, I'm originally from Peru.
	What do you do for work?
	Yeah, you remember.
	Thank you.
	Actually, I started working in a new job, like a funeral job.
	Funeral?
	Funeral, yes, yes.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, you want a funeral home?
	No, no, no.
	Let me explain.
	I'm in the front desk, answering calls, but the thing is that people who are in the front always need to see their bodies.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah, because we do cremations.
	Yeah, so you work at a funeral home?
	Yeah, I love it, for real.
	Okay!
	You know, when I was a child, I always want to be forensic.
	So for me, right now, that job is really like, it's a challenge for me, you know.
	They play good, and at the same time, you know, like I told you, an answer and call and everything, but...
	Like I always say, there is always...
	Hold on, so you said you guys do cremations, you guys do embalming too?
	You guys don't do embalming, like to make the body...
	I mean, it's not my job.
	My job is in front desk, answering calls, do the papers.
	You're not a mortician.
	You just are the receptionist.
	She should know the services, that's why I'm asking.
	There is people who do that cremation, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	There's people.
	But she's front desk.
	I don't know, front desk.
	Yeah, like you would think that she would know.
	They call her, like, yo, my cousin died.
	I'm trying to get him to leave Teresa alone.
	Teresa is busy, okay?
	The novella is still beginning.
	No, Ruby.
	Not Teresa.
	Ruby.
	But she should know that.
	That's important.
	You look Korean.
	- You look Korean.
	- Corbie?
	- Yeah, I thought you were.
	- Oh my God!
	Y'all think it's an evil, bro! - What Corbie?
	- Y'all think it's an evil, man. - 'Cause of your eyes?
	- Ah.
	- Don't worry about the chat, bro.
	- Yeah, sorry, my bad. - Yeah.
	- Yeah, okay, continue.
	So, you work out-- - You want me to explain more about the joke?
	- No, no, no, no, no, no. - So, I guess, dating status?
	I'm single right now.
	I really like a guy, a Cuban guy.
	I started dating with him, so I don't know what's going to happen, but I really like him.
	How long has it been?
	No, we just have two dates.
	I mean, dating, two times dating.
	He works a lot, so I can see too much of him, but we always contact him, what's up, you know?
	Highest education level completed?
	University.
	University in Arlington, Texas.
	Okay, you got your bachelor's degree?
	No, I didn't finish.
	Did you get your associate's?
	Yes, two years in the town county college in Texas.
	Okay, what did you get in?
	It's Associados and Arts Arts?
	Arts, Associados and Arts And then you said you're single Are your parents still together or no?
	Yes, they happily married Okay, birth control?
	No.
	No, I don't have kids and I don't want a kid, sorry.
	Chris, how dare you?
	I mean, she's 36, man.
	It's gonna be hard, man.
	What about that age?
	I don't want to be mom, that's all.
	I want to make money.
	I want to be famous.
	Let's go.
	Over my dead body.
	Oh my.
	Chris.
	What's that?
	Chris, chill up, bro.
	What's up, Chris?
	That was good, bro.
	I was from my dead body.
	You were fresh.
	You would like that, bro.
	That was actually clever.
	I do something.
	Por favor.
	Chris.
	Callate.
	The reason I said that is because I found something out like a month ago.
	Do you know that like when people die, the first thing that happens is their skin starts to get flaky?
	I spoke to an embalmer.
	She was telling me that she said it's not true like in the movies.
	Do you embalm people if you cremate them?
	Or do you only embalm people if they're...
	You're burning the ashes.
	So you wouldn't have to embalm someone if it's only cremation?
	No.
	Right?
	No.
	So you only cremate people?
	No, actually, today, three people, they asking for the cremation, you know, that we'd send in the box.
	It was a little baby, actually.
	Nine months.
	Wait, I thought that when you die, you take a shit.
	Yeah, you release all of your body fluids.
	What the fuck?
	What did you all learn all of that about dying?
	Because I got it from an actual embalmer and I was like surprised.
	Niggas in India die every single day, bro.
	You get it?
	They shit everywhere?
	Alright, never mind.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Okay, what about you?
	What's your name?
	Alright, my name is Gia.
	I'm 24.
	Okay, where are you from?
	Arkansas, right?
	I grew up in Arkansas.
	I'm from South Memphis.
	Okay.
	Memphis?
	Yep.
	901 gang gang gang.
	Oh, shit.
	You like niggas?
	They like you.
	You know.
	Okay, what do you do for work?
	I work at a dispensary.
	I am living out my dreams.
	Do you live in Florida now?
	I do.
	I do.
	I live in Broward.
	Smunk weed every day.
	I'm saying.
	How long have you been in Florida for?
	Three and a half years now almost.
	Okay.
	Which part of Broward?
	And then high school.
	I dropped out of community college.
	Okay.
	Relationship status for you?
	In a relationship, five years strong.
	How'd you guys meet?
	Pizza Hut.
	Yeah, we worked at Pizza Hut.
	No way.
	Yeah, way.
	When we were teenagers.
	Ew, brother, why?
	What's your order, then?
	Yo, what is my order?
	You don't know.
	Meat lovers?
	Weird, right?
	I take the cheese off, too.
	I take the cheese off of my pizza.
	You're crazy.
	I get like Philly steak and spinach, extra spinach, and then I take the cheese off.
	Whoa!
	Pizza Hut is psychotic!
	Who does that?
	Don't do Philly steak and Pizza Hut.
	That is psychotic!
	You guys met at Pizza Hut five years ago, you said, right?
	Yes.
	Since COVID, Pizza Hut's taken a huge downturn.
	Is this still open?
	They were closing a lot of locations, even when we were working there, especially dine-in locations.
	There's no more kids' buffet.
	Sorry about the Tuesday night buffet.
	It's done.
	Yeah, Pizza Hut's still around.
	Are they hiring?
	Yes.
	Do you need a job?
	I can get you in.
	Can we get free pizza if we go by?
	I thought about going back in time and doing jobs that were...
	A little bit lower class, and I said to myself, you know what?
	Tumble myself even more, I should do it right now.
	Chick-fil-A was very humbling, you know?
	I'm gonna take that offer, actually.
	You said pizza as a lower class?
	You ready, bro?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Let's do it, bro.
	Black and white, my nigga.
	So I introduced myself.
	Okay, I'm Haz Aldean, and shout out if you're in the Discord, add everybody.
	I forgot to do that.
	Bring all the gorillas in.
	What's going on, guys?
	Gorillas.
	Gorillas.
	That's my people.
	That's what they're called.
	Gorillas.
	Aren't they black?
	Like, no, G-O, like a gorilla.
	Oh, my bad.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Anyway, that's crazy.
	Anyway, you know, I'm going to introduce the first topic or what?
	Yeah, just one last thing I want to ask her.
	You said you're in a relationship five years, Pizza Hut.
	Are your parents together?
	Hell no.
	Okay, they're divorced?
	And they're birth control for you?
	No.
	Okay, and you guys met at Pizza Hut, you said, right?
	Yes.
	And are you guys engaged or anything like that?
	Five years is a long time.
	No, I told him I want to get engaged.
	So, we'll see.
	Is he black?
	No.
	He's Mexican.
	Mexican?
	Mm-hmm.
	Is he back in Memphis or is he here in Florida with you?
	No, he's here in Florida.
	Go ahead.
	No.
	He's watching.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, he is?
	Yeah.
	Anthony Fresh has got a joke for you.
	Go ahead.
	Well, do you prefer hot dogs or tacos?
	You want me to answer?
	I'll leave you there.
	Sorry, continue.
	Okay, what's your ethnic background?
	I'm white.
	Alright, cool.
	Yeah, go ahead, Oz.
	Kick it off with the first question, bro.
	Okay.
	And we'll start here and then work our way back this way.
	So, ladies, the way the question goes is, first question will start, you know, on one side, then the next question will be the second side.
	So we'll start over here first, so we'll start back this way.
	Go ahead, bro.
	Take it away.
	So, I've been giving this question a lot of thought, you know, a lot of...
	Thinking has gone into it, and basically the question I want to ask for everybody here, and it's a really good question, is, see, we're facing a crisis as a country.
	It seems like there's a gender divide that's a political divide now.
	Young men are going in the direction of Republican, and young women are going in the direction of Democrat.
	So for the first time in history, maybe, men and women are being polarized on political lines.
	And that's, you know, before, there was always political divisions in society.
	So you had a household, the whole household would be one way, posing one would be another way.
	So men and women were not polarized politically, right?
	Now they are.
	So the question is, how does that get solved?
	It seems like there's a breakdown of the ability for the two to communicate and that's leading to, you know, in my view that's leading to a system that's taking advantage of a cultural divide Which is ultimately always going to be producing the same outcome anyway.
	But, you know, it's just producing so many people enthusiastic about, you know, Democrats or Republicans, people who don't necessarily represent their best interests, but they're just doing it for cultural reasons.
	So what do you think the root causes of that and how that can be addressed?
	Let's make it simpler.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I can summarize because I was writing.
	Okay, so the first question is, how do we solve ideological differences in men and women?
	And then where does it come from?
	Would that be fair to say that's what you're asking?
	Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, ladies, the question is, how do we solve political ideology differences between men and women, and where does it come from?
	Well, I can start.
	I think the idea...
	I'm not Tina.
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	It's Gia.
	Gia, Mo.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Sorry, Tina will start at the screen, so Tina, don't start at the screen, please.
	- That's Gia, Chris.
	- No, no, no, no, Tina!
	- Oh, Tina was.
	Oh, my bad, my bad.
	All right, cool. - But Gia's cool.
	- Okay.
	- Thanks, Fresh, I appreciate that.
	- Gang.
	- What was the question again?
	- Okay, so, he was basically saying that there is a gender divide, especially with younger people, along political lines.
	Men tend to be more Republican, women tend to be more Democratic.
	So men tend to lean right, while women tend to lean left.
	Then he says, how do we solve ideological differences between men and women in the United States, and where do you think it comes from?
	You know, I think the second part is kind of hard to answer off rip, but I would definitely say for the first part, I think the differences in ideology come from the party line differences.
	You know, the GOP is really rooted in conservatism, traditionalism, and I think that patriarchy and traditionalism have a lot of overlap because patriarchy is a traditional system that we've had.
	So, I think that men and women both have an interest in upholding patriarchy, which, you know, is a whole discussion, but I think men are more conscious of their own interest in upholding patriarchy because it benefits them.
	And so, I think that patriarchy is better upheld by the Republican Party.
	Not that it's not upheld by the Democratic Party, it definitely is, but I think that the Republican Party actually holds publicly the interests of patriarchy.
	So I think that that's why a lot of men gravitate towards the Republican Party because it upholds things that have always benefited them and would continue to benefit them.
	Okay.
	So you think the patriarchy benefits men?
	I think the patriarchy benefits everybody that participates in it to a degree, and it also hurts people who participate in it to varying degrees.
	So, do I keep going?
	No, no, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I should go around a table.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's up to you, however you guys do.
	No, no, yeah.
	Do you want to address something?
	Yeah, I just want to ask, so what do you mean by patriarchy?
	What is that?
	So, like, the ideology that men are superior and, I mean, that's a really reductionist take on patriarchy, right?
	Because patriarchy involves, like, a whole system that is rooted around maintaining the supremacy of men and maintaining...
	Which men, though?
	What do you mean which men?
	Well, because it seems to me that whether we're talking Republican or Democrat, but especially Republican because they're more overt about this, it seems like their policies are meant to actually benefit the small, small minority of old men that have already gotten to the top.
	Exactly.
	So what about young men who are leaning Republican?
	Who, in my view, they're getting a false promise.
	They're saying, yeah, you're going to get, you know, a good job, you're going to be able to make money.
	It seems like a lie to me.
	So how is it patriarchy if the majority of men don't have any stake in it?
	No, that's actually exactly what I mean when I say that whether or not it benefits everybody, everybody participates in patriarchy because it's been the default.
	It's kind of like capitalism.
	Like, we all have to participate in capitalism because it's what we've been given, and we all want to be successful and Quite frankly, I think that that's why a lot of us ladies are here right now.
	We're probably a little nervous about how this is going to go, but we want the opportunity.
	We want to have the discussion.
	We want to be here.
	But, you know, to say that there's not a barrier to men and women having that discussion, I mean, I think that's why we're here, because there is that barrier.
	But to your point, patriarchy does not benefit men as much that are not in that range, right?
	White, straight, successful, old.
	I'm just saying, like, how has the current...
	How have the Republicans, and this applies to Democrats too, because I'm not pro-Democrat, but it's like, how is it, if you're saying patriarchy is that, you know, it's benefiting men or whatever, like in what way specifically?
	Well, specifically, so as most recently, like the repealing of Roe v.
	Wade, you know, the idea that women can't make their own decisions about their bodily autonomy without men in charge making those decisions for them, or taking their choice away to make those decisions for themselves.
	I don't, I don't, I don't know how it's necessarily a male thing to, you know...
	Well, it's a majority male Supreme Court.
	It's a majority male Congress.
	Everybody that's in charge of making these decisions, the majority of them in those groups are men, so...
	Yeah, sure.
	But I'm just saying, like, the Roe v.
	Wade, all that really did was say, okay, we're just going to hand it to the states as far as what the decision is going to be.
	So how does that specifically benefit young men, or men in general?
	Well, because, you know, patriarchy is a system that is macro, and it's also micro.
	But, like, how does that give your average man more control over women's choices or something?
	I don't understand that.
	Well, because they have more political power than women.
	You know, when you have men at the top whose interests largely share men at the bottom, then those men vote for the more powerful men.
	That doesn't seem to make any sense.
	So you're saying because the majority of people in power are men, that means men in general have more power.
	Well, no, it means that you didn't let me finish.
	Babes, I think break it down.
	Break it down patriarchy from the start, babes.
	Real quick, who agrees with her, by the way, just so I guess we might as well, who agrees with her on this, by the way, that men tend to lean more right and it's because of a patriarchy and the patriarchy inherently benefits men more than it benefits women?
	Who agrees with that?
	Just raise a hand.
	And to clarify, just so I can see who else agrees with this.
	I don't think that men largely lean right.
	I just think that the men do lean right.
	That's why.
	There you go.
	I don't think that men as a whole, in terms of American society, typically lean left or right, but in terms of patriarchy, yes, it's going to be for men.
	So you guys agree with that, right?
	Because I want to clarify, patriarchy is not just something that is this great thing for men that sucks for women.
	Anybody else agree with that?
	Just two?
	Do the girls know what it means?
	I think one of the basic things that you can learn from patriarchy is that the fact that all women take on their father's names.
	They take on their father's last name until this day and it's still continued because it's always been a patriotic Don't worry girls, I got you.
	It's never been a matriarchy.
	It's always been a patriarchy.
	Meaning that the man in the household is centered around the role as a friend.
	Yeah, like it's centered around that.
	The conversation is centered around it.
	We need to make this a little bit more simpler.
	No, that's fine, man.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay.
	A system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line.
	That's basically a general definition.
	Yeah.
	So, you guys agree.
	You might not agree that men lean right more, but you guys agree that the patriarchy inherently benefits men more.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And you agree that's what you said?
	And anyone else agree with that besides her?
	Yeah.
	Raise of hands?
	Yeah, it kind of makes sense.
	Walt agrees?
	Okay.
	Alright, cool.
	Go ahead, Oz, if you want to, because she was finishing her statement.
	Do you want to finish what you were saying?
	I'm a little lost, so if you want to go ahead, go ahead.
	We'll go to the next girl.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, you know, the thing about the last names, that's for certainty of the parent, you know, because when it was matrilineal, you didn't know who the father was a lot of the time, societies that were matrilineal.
	So when they started shifting to patrilineal, where they're recording, you know, the child based on their father, the father right is what they call it, That's because that establishes exactly who that belongs to, who the child belongs to.
	I mean, everyone knows who the mother is, basically, because of the labors of, you know, giving birth and being pregnant and stuff.
	And that establishes the certainty of the parentage.
	But, you know, I don't want to ramble on that.
	I just kind of want to narrow it down because it's like...
	Go ahead.
	I'll go to the next person.
	What?
	Can I just make this a little more fun so they can really understand?
	Because I can see some confusion here.
	How about this?
	Tell me, is this good or not?
	Let's say, why do men move towards Trump versus women towards Kamala?
	Why you think that?
	Is that better?
	Yeah?
	Okay.
	You know, I mean, it feels...
	How dare you!
	No, no, no, you!
	Me?
	First of all, I don't like to talk about politics.
	Because it's a big topic.
	I don't think she can vote.
	I can vote.
	Actually, I'm supposed to vote by Kamala.
	Kamala.
	Yeah, because I think in this time, I think women need to have the opportunity to show the real power that we have inside of us.
	Yes, yes, for real.
	Yes, yes.
	Actually, I think...
	Yeah.
	And like, she was telling, you know, about the patriotic, you know?
	Patriotic.
	Patriotic.
	Everything is based, like, about the father, the man, you know?
	The man.
	Especially in Latino culture.
	Exactly, yeah.
	Too much machismo in this time.
	You think there's too much masculinity today?
	Yes.
	Not today, maybe before.
	So here's, I think it's kind of a false conflict, because it's like, Obviously women don't want to be more masculine and you know they don't necessarily it's not their thing because they're women but it's like would you do you think it's better if men today were to be more feminine?
	Not feminine exactly but More sensitive?
	Yeah.
	More sensitive, yes.
	I just think there's too much focus on the idea of men being masculine or men being feminine to begin with because I think a lot of the ways that we uphold the patriarchy is by making men feel like they have to be a certain way.
	And that's what I mean when I say patriarchy hurts everybody.
	When a man feels like he can't cry, he's a bitch.
	I don't know if I'm allowed to say it.
	I mean, look, I understand how that could apply to traditional cultures, you know, like Middle Eastern culture or something like that, but it's like in America, when I look at the things that are meant to influence young men that are like establishment kind of stuff, I mean, internet is a whole other story.
	The things that are being promoted by society, it really seems like almost all of it is in the opposite direction, really telling men, you know, okay, you need to, don't be a man anymore, wear dresses, yada, yada, yada.
	So, where is the pressure to be a man coming from in America today?
	I don't see it.
	This room?
	Shit.
	No offense, I'm making a joke there.
	But, yeah, I mean, the idea that men need to be a certain way anyway.
	A little serious, sure.
	In the sense that, like, you know, you guys...
	But don't you think that's just kind of like a...
	For example...
	The viewpoints that come from here, that's kind of a response to something that's been happening for a very long time, which was going unchallenged for, like, decades, you know, in the U.S. And...
	What are you referring to directly?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm talking about how it seems like there's this agenda to basically tell men that they should stop being masculine, they should stop being men, they should be more feminine, they should...
	And when do you think that started?
	But there was an agenda, the opposite agenda...
	Why is it that every male celebrity comes out and wears a dress?
	Every single one.
	Would you say that every male celebrity does that?
	I think every up-and-coming male celebrity, for some reason, can be photographed with a dress.
	It challenges the status quo.
	I think the status quo has been this idea of...
	I don't think it challenges the status quo.
	I think that it does, because I think since the 80s we've had this machismo idea of what masculinity is.
	But that's not the status quo.
	That's something that actually comes from...
	The people themselves.
	That comes from traditions.
	That comes from people's real lives.
	Sure, but traditionalism can be the status quo.
	Right, but the status quo is the artificial stuff that they make up there to impose on society.
	But there's no inherent masculinity.
	It's all artificial.
	You think masculinity is all artificial?
	It literally is.
	Femininity and masculinity is a construct.
	So it has no basis whatsoever in the historical responsibilities.
	Men have to assume the wars they have to fight.
	They have to stand on business to protect their family and their loved ones.
	Like, biologically, do they have to stand on business?
	They have to have a sense of honor in their dealings with other men to prevent violence.
	You don't think these things are real?
	Not inherently.
	Not inherently, no.
	So those are artificial?
	Yes, those are artificially inflated constructs.
	So who created them?
	You know, I don't think it was one person.
	Like, you know, I don't want to be like, we live in a society.
	The machine.
	The machine.
	Type shit.
	Don't you think that things like that reflect real experiences and real wisdom?
	I do.
	Yeah, I do.
	So, how is it artificial then?
	Or is it just semantics?
	You're not saying that they're fake, you're just saying that...
	Artificial in the sense that, like I said, it's not inherent, it's not connected to biology, and if we wanted to, we could change it.
	And to your point, that's what our generation is doing.
	Guys put on a dress to question this idea of masculinity that we have, and say it's not that you have to do this to be a man.
	You put a dress on and still be a man.
	Right, but why is there this assumption that being a man is based in, like, you want to emulate some kind of appearance rather than necessity?
	Like, for example, honor is born out of necessity.
	You can want to look like however you want, but in terms of being able to deal and do business and have...
	Honorable relationships with others.
	That's out of necessity to prevent violence.
	That's out of necessity to co-exist with other people.
	The need for men to protect is not something that's because they want to look a certain way because from an 80s action movement.
	It's actually based in experiences and wisdom that's been passed on for generations and generations.
	So how could that be dismantled and voluntarily gotten rid of just because someone wants to?
	That should not be dismantled.
	Those are characteristics of human beings.
	And I bet if you ask Fatima if somebody came for her son, if she would lay down and protect, absolutely, she does not need her husband.
	Look, I want to be inclusive and not make assumptions.
	I'm very progressive.
	But I have a suspicion that if she came across a man in a fight, I don't...
	I don't...
	It's a little ridiculous.
	You could hold your own against a man in a fight.
	I'll fuck the shit out of somebody.
	I don't doubt you.
	Listen, listen.
	What you're really trying to say is that you have the willingness out of love to protect your child.
	But that's exactly the problem.
	Just because you have the willingness and the intention doesn't mean you actually have the reality and the ability.
	Let me ask this.
	To your point, if a man is coming down the alleyway, it's a man and his wife, what if the man is smaller than the woman?
	Should she not step up and stand on business and whoop some ass?
	I think that men...
	Are generally, regardless of their size, stronger.
	Biologically, we do have a different...
	We're biologically different.
	We're bigger, we're smaller.
	There's a quote from an old friend of mine, Zurka, and he says, a 14-year-old boy can beat up 90% of women on Earth.
	There's truth to that.
	It's just an inherent difference in the ability to be how strong you are.
	Biologically, we are different.
	I cannot hit as hard as my man.
	My man's a professional boxer.
	He will knock somebody out.
	I can't do it.
	If anyone gets me to the point, I really can't control myself to kind of want to do that.
	I do have this protective...
	I probably...
	Right, but you know, and that could be irrational, though.
	It definitely is irrational.
	I should not do that.
	I should be quiet and probably let him do what he has to do.
	It's my biological...
	Like, it's nature to me.
	Like, when you look in the wild...
	This is what I'm trying to say when I say...
	Why would it be irrational to protect your own child?
	No, no, no.
	It could be irrational to do it in vain, where there's a 100% chance you're going to lose.
	But what if you have a weapon to defend yourself and your child?
	Yeah, yeah.
	A weapon we can carry here.
	In the United States, right?
	Yeah, look, a weapon definitely changes things across the board.
	But at the end of the day, you know...
	Fights are normal in their part of life, right?
	So if all fights are going to be settled with guns and weapons...
	But this is going right back to your honor question.
	Why would a man physically think that he needs, if he knows that he is biologically stronger than a woman, why would he feel the need to then assert his dominance and physical aggression on a woman who is not able to defend herself and being with a child?
	There is 100% dishonorable men.
	There's 100% bad men.
	But one thing I want to circle back to why I pulled Fatima in earlier was because the things that you listed earlier, you were just talking about the physical differences between men and women, but earlier the things that you listed that were inherent to patriarchy, to men, anyways, like honor, protectiveness, those are things that we possess as women as well.
	Those are not inherent to masculinity.
	You have honor to your family, honor to your body.
	I don't...
	Women do have their own form of honor, 100%, but I would just say that masculine honor is also born of necessity, and it's different in nature.
	And it's true.
	Women's honor, I think, is also born of necessity.
	It's about protecting their reputation.
	It's about making sure that nobody's going to be disrespecting them, talking about them badly.
	A lot of it more tends to focus on...
	Socially based, you know?
	And it's interesting that you say these things are born out of necessity because I don't disagree with you.
	I think that, like I said, we're born into a system that is capitalistic, that is patriarchal, that we're fighting for our life.
	Like, we're doing what we gotta do.
	So, I don't disagree with you that men and women behave the way that they do out of necessity in reaction to their environment.
	I actually think that...
	I think...
	I think it's the opposite.
	I think capitalism is actually what has destroyed this traditional form of honor we're talking about for men and women.
	I think that's what she was saying.
	Capitalism was just an example of a system that we're born into.
	No, no, because you're saying it was born of necessity.
	No, no, I'm saying that we're born into that system.
	We're born into a capitalist system.
	So we don't get the option to, like, not participate in capitalism is what I meant.
	But what does that have to do with the norms?
	Because it was an example.
	We're born into systems that we don't get to control, such as patriarchy and such as capitalism.
	Do you think capitalism upholds patriarchy?
	Yes, and vice versa.
	Because they're both rooted in exploitation.
	Well, the problem is that, how can that be when capitalism, through, for example, promoting the sex industry, totally devastates and destroys A traditional family relationship.
	Well, the reason why she said that was because they simultaneously help each other.
	It's not saying that they're directly related, they're indirectly related.
	They don't help each other indirectly or directly.
	What ends up happening is that capitalism completely devastates traditional values between men and women.
	But that doesn't mean that it doesn't uphold patriarchy, and that they're not both rooted in the same exploitation.
	What is the patriarchy of systems turning dollars just for the sake of dollars?
	So, I mean, on the topic of exploitation, you brought up the porn industry.
	Who's on that dollar bill?
	Who's on that dollar bill?
	A man.
	Well, also, to make money from porn...
	Yeah, the man who's on the dollar bill are the men who fought with guns to fight to...
	100%.
	To make money from porn, you have to exploit women.
	Absolutely.
	That's one example of what the interlinks between...
	Wait a minute.
	You're talking about a bill.
	To work...
	On camera, they willingly do it.
	It's not against their will.
	You can't do that.
	No, there's a difference between, like, individual...
	Like I said, there's micro situations and there's macro situations.
	In a micro situation, a woman may not be exploited, but the sex industry in general is exploitative towards women.
	If capitalism helps...
	She made a choice.
	If capitalism helps...
	She or they.
	Like, you're talking about she individually or women in general make the choice to participate in sex.
	Hold on, let me get a temperature read on the room here.
	Do you think the patriarchy benefits or hurts women?
	We'll start here.
	Both.
	Okay, if you had to pick one of the two, let's say 51% versus 49%.
	Hurts women more.
	Hurts women.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Do you think the patriarchy benefits or hurts women?
	Benefits.
	Benefits.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'll have to change that question.
	This is tough.
	It can do both for sure.
	It can do both.
	I think it can do both.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, but which one is the more prevalent, if you were to say?
	Hurts.
	You think it hurts more.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think I could do both too, but I guess I'd say hurts.
	Hurts more.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think it does both.
	I think it does different angles, different situations.
	It's different situations, different angles, different, like everything.
	So when you total up everything at different angles, does it hurt more or benefit more?
	When you tally everything up and it's all said and done.
	I think it can hurt for sure.
	More, okay.
	I think it hurts more.
	Okay, what about you?
	It negatively impacts women.
	Negatively impacts, okay.
	What about you?
	It hurts more.
	It hurts more.
	Okay, what about you?
	Where are we?
	It could be beneficial because you can actually rely on the man.
	But which one does it do more?
	Does it hurt women more or benefit women more?
	I understand that there's pros and cons, but are there more pros or more?
	It hurts more.
	Okay.
	So is that every girl that said it hurts more pretty much?
	Yeah.
	Except for one, except for Peru.
	Wait, you're the only one that said it benefits, right?
	I think she doesn't understand the question.
	No.
	Yes, I did, but I was like, you said choose one, right?
	Choose one.
	Yeah, does it hurt one more or better?
	Most of them, they agree that it hurts, yeah.
	Yeah, so you agree with them?
	Yeah, I'm gonna agree with those women, yeah.
	So here's a question.
	Is society becoming more or less patriarchal, in your view?
	Less.
	Okay, we start here and work our way around, so I get an answer.
	A little bit less.
	Do you think society is becoming more or less patriarchal?
	Um, less.
	Alright, okay.
	You?
	Less.
	Alright.
	Less, 100%.
	Alright.
	Definitely a little bit less.
	Okay.
	Little by little, we're getting there.
	Less.
	Alright.
	Um, less.
	Alright.
	All yes?
	We're all gonna say yes.
	All less?
	Yeah.
	I think more...
	Okay, so you think it's actually becoming more of a patriarchy?
	I do.
	I think it's becoming more entrenched every day.
	In relation to before?
	Yeah.
	In the past?
	So you think we're more in a patriarchy now than we were in the past?
	Yes, but I don't think that it's men that are more deeply entrenching patriarchy.
	I actually think it's women.
	Explain that.
	Like internalized misogyny?
	Yeah, internalized misogyny and this idea that we can act like a man and be a man.
	It's like, you know, like you guys said, we're never going to be men.
	So it's like the things that men do, the things that men are, we don't do that.
	Oh, so you're saying it's because they're behaving like men.
	Behaving like men, yes, but...
	But also upholding the sexist and...
	Exactly.
	I don't want to go too deep and start a rabbit hole, but yes.
	They're not your girl's girl.
	Yeah, like when you start in OnlyFans, you may think that you are empowering yourself, and to a degree you are, but also to a degree, at the same time, you are participating in a system that's exploitative.
	But is it really useful to still call it patriarchy if it's just women doing it to themselves?
	I think that, like, you're misunderstanding, like, patriarchy is not an attack on men.
	No, no, no, yeah, but somehow men are supposed to be benefiting from this, right?
	But they are.
	Even when women participate in it, men benefit from it.
	And how do they benefit from that?
	Because you don't see all these OnlyFans.
	All these OnlyFans aren't guys.
	The CEO of OnlyFans is a man.
	There are a couple.
	Definitely 100%.
	Like she said, the CEO of the actual company is a man.
	Here's what I'm saying.
	I think the kind of porn addicted men who are getting OnlyFans and are subscribing and stuff.
	I think they're destroying their soul.
	They're destroying their brain.
	They're destroying their health.
	Wow!
	That's...
	I'm surprised you said that.
	So I'm saying, like, it's clearly not benefiting them.
	But why do you, personally as a man, why do you feel like it's, like, destroying their soul and, like, ruining their mind?
	Well, because I think it's basically, you know, it's commodifying the experience of a relationship for them.
	It's basically giving them a false promise.
	And it's also doing something that's really unhealthy, in my view, which is it's giving them this idea that, you know, sexuality can be bought and paid for.
	So it's destroying and it's abstracting.
	Yeah.
	Sexuality from the context of actual concrete relationships, which, you know, are the bedrock of society.
	These are what are supposed to produce, you know, more people through families and so on and so on.
	And I think it's giving them an unhealthy idea as far as, um...
	Expectations?
	Their expectations and their understanding of women in general.
	So real quick, I just want to understand this.
	So all of you believe that patriarchy is on the decline.
	You think it's on the incline because you're saying that women are personifying patriarchal type behavior and that perpetuates a patriarchy.
	Yes, and women think that while they're personifying patriarchal behavior that they're actually finding a solution.
	Can you give me one example so I know specifically what you mean when you say that they're personifying fans?
	Only fans, for example.
	Only fans, for example.
	Women want to be rich.
	They want to be as rich as a man.
	I feel like you could go a little bit deeper.
	Yeah, sure.
	So we want to be as rich as a man, right?
	We found something that will get us as rich as a man, which is Only Fans.
	And so for us, it seems really simple.
	Just show my body and I can have as much money as my own.
	But I don't know about rich as a man, because I know many men that want to be rich.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	And they don't even have reach.
	But when women are talking about starting their own band, you know?
	Yeah, financial.
	Okay, so you're saying, so real quick, women are sentient beings that are able to make their own decisions, right?
	Yes, yes.
	Everyone is.
	So how would it be that her getting into porn is an extension of the patriarchy?
	Well, because you- If she makes that decision herself and she has autonomy to do so.
	And you do have the autonomy to do so, but you can make a choice that is autonomous, that you are responsible for, and still understand the position that you were put in that pressured you to make that decision.
	That doesn't mean that it's anybody's fault.
	No one put a gun to her head to say, the OnlyFans, bitch!
	That's what I said.
	No, no, but you're saying it's because the Patriots are good.
	No, I think what she's saying is specifically that she understands that the woman who is doing porn or OnlyFans understands the predicament that she's in because obviously she knows that if she's getting on the internet and completely is showing off her body possibly doing sexual activity on live on a camera it's gonna be on there forever she automatically She theoretically knows, specifically because we're in a patriarchal society, her worth as a woman is going to be devalued.
	But she still chooses to do that, you know, online sexual activity.
	But that's what she's directly saying.
	When you said, like, what can we do to bring men and women to the center of the table, I think we need to stop focusing on whose fault it is, because patriarchy is not the fault of men individually.
	We all participate in this system.
	That's what I'm trying to get you all to understand.
	What, to you, would it mean for the patriarchy to be dismantled?
	What does that look like?
	So, if we can come to the table and understand that we are all making decisions for survival, then I think that we can have a better place in the conversation.
	We're all in the same position of survival.
	We're talking about the structure of society between men and women.
	So what would it look like for patriarchy to be eliminated in your view?
	Man, that's a great question.
	I don't even know if I could picture what that would look like, honestly.
	How would you sell the Rubik's Cube?
	I've tried so hard.
	I can't even get the white shirt.
	Let me ask this then.
	Let me go around the table and ask this.
	Okay, so you guys all agree that we're in a patriarchy and that it's less beneficial to women.
	Would you guys then agree that a matriarchy might be the solution?
	It might be better?
	No.
	Run by women?
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	We'll start here.
	Yeah, I think it should be an equal.
	A matriarchy run by women?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it should be equally, you know, managed.
	Well, that's not really possible.
	There's no such thing as equality when it comes to ruling class and power.
	There has to be one, you know.
	It could be possible.
	It could be, Maren.
	It definitely could be possible.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I feel like it could be one or the other, but the benefits has to be, like...
	So which one would you think is better, a matriarchy or a patriarchy?
	If the patriarchy benefits women less.
	Trump or Kamala?
	No, don't.
	I just don't support all of that.
	I think it should be equal.
	You also think it should be equal?
	Yeah.
	There's gotta be a balance.
	What in life is equal?
	Nothing's equal.
	Why would you think that you're equal then?
	You did say in a perfect world or hypothetically.
	No, no, no.
	Listen, stay out of this.
	What is equal in life?
	Nothing, right?
	So then you gotta choose one.
	Just choose one.
	Yeah, if the patriarchy is bad, it doesn't benefit women.
	Like, which one would you pick then?
	For a better world.
	A matriarchy or a patriarchy?
	If you had to pick one.
	Not equal.
	Pick one.
	No patriarchy.
	Okay, so the matriarchy for you.
	What about you?
	Matriarchy.
	Sorry, I can't do this.
	I would say the patriarchy.
	Arriba las mujeres.
	Matrix.
	Okay, what about you, matriarchy?
	I would 100% say a matriarchy.
	The reason being is in terms...
	Of understanding that if someone was from a repressed form of society for decades, I would say the majority of centuries, regarding smaller seclusions of society, a patriarchy has been dominant.
	So this more repressed version of society is going to step up for minority women as well as all women in general.
	In terms of a matriarchy, if I'm being quite honest, I feel like in terms of war, in terms of violence, in terms of Specific actions that we can do specifically in the United States to protect women's bodies and their choices, I would say a matriarchy would be 100% more safe for women living in the United States.
	Okay, what about you?
	I would agree with matriarchy too, just because also based from other places that have matriarchy in effect, it's like...
	Who has a matriarchy in effect?
	England?
	Like, the Britain?
	They're matriarchy.
	The British are responsible for 90% of the problems on planet Earth.
	I don't know if that's a great example.
	The Queen is a ceremonial position.
	It's not really a position.
	Do you have any more examples?
	Actually, I like that one.
	Disney, bro.
	You can fuck up.
	Yeah, because the queen, it's a ceremonial.
	I want to say matriarchy for sure because I'm a mom and I have a son and I feel like if a woman would never, I don't think a woman would ever send her sons off to war.
	However, it's please don't kill me women for this.
	I just feel like in these days people can be bought.
	They could be puppets.
	They could be in position to be a face of something and people telling them what to do behind closed doors.
	So I just don't know, honestly.
	I want it to be equal.
	Women and men should all be like, we're not equal in biology, we're different, but we should be equal in everything else.
	I have a son, I'm pro-female, I'm like women empowerment, I come from a culture where we can't really do stuff.
	I would say matriarchy, but again in these days it's not 100% real if it's not really like their feelings and what they want to do.
	Interesting.
	Alright, what about you?
	A matriarchy or a patriarchy?
	I think everything that these ladies said is great.
	I wish it was true.
	But realistically, I don't think the world is better off being ran by women.
	Why not?
	Damn, beast.
	Misogony.
	How dare you!
	Because women are emotional.
	They are not good at making decisions.
	Neither are the guys.
	Has it worked out for us so far?
	I mean, I think men are more decision makers, personally.
	I would say in terms of emotional intelligence, I feel like women as a whole establish more emotional bonds with their female friends as well as other individuals.
	Whereas men, I feel like in terms of emotional intelligence, They're not necessarily pursuing, you know, I wonder why that is.
	Can you tell us what emotional intelligence is?
	I think we have more common sense when it comes to making, like, big decisions.
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, can you tell us just so we understand?
	Because we hear a lot of women use that term.
	Emotional intelligence, what does that mean?
	What is emotional intelligence?
	Let's break it down to emotional regulation.
	You feel that you are upset.
	I feel.
	Right?
	You feel that you're upset.
	Okay.
	You feel it.
	Your adrenaline's up, your blood's pumping, your heart might be beating, and all that you know is that you're upset about that specific situation.
	But all you know is that you're upset.
	What's the deep-rooted cause as to why you're upset?
	What's actually causing you to become angry, to become Do you think that things are getting better or worse for women right now?
	Currently?
	Yeah.
	In the United States?
	Like, are women improving, or is it worse for them?
	Women are improving.
	We have the potential to be...
	No, no, no, that's not what I asked.
	Is it getting better or worse for women right now?
	For what?
	For what specifically?
	What category?
	For the overall health and well-being of women, is it increasing or decreasing?
	I would say that it's decreasing in this state of time.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	This is the issue.
	I don't mean to trap you, but it's like...
	This is why I want you to think about this.
	Didn't you say...
	Weren't you one of the people that said that society is becoming less patriarchal?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And simultaneously, life is getting worse for women, right?
	100% and I will stand on that.
	100% I will stand on that.
	But you didn't specifically ask about in the United States.
	I don't mean to corner or use it as an own.
	I understand, but I would say specifically in the United States, it's different than globally.
	I would say as a global perspective, 100%, we're going more towards the matriarchy.
	But specifically in the United States, it differs.
	Name a specific region or country in the world where you think it's becoming more matriarchical and it's better for women at the same time.
	I would say definitely in Ireland and also in the UK. I would also say in different places.
	Really?
	The UK? I would say specifically in Ireland.
	How is life getting better for women in Ireland and the UK in a way that's not for the United States?
	Specifically because of their government and how it's established.
	Okay, how is it getting better for women?
	Don't they have social health care in Ireland?
	They literally have free health care.
	That's something that benefits both men and women.
	It does, 100%.
	And I would argue, but that has nothing to do with patriarchy or matriarchy.
	But you are specifically asking about a patriarchal view, and specifically in the United States, a patriarchal view is a man making decisions about a female's body.
	You have no idea how to make a decision about that.
	Fine, but free...
	We can get into that later, but free healthcare is not a matriarchical policy.
	Well, but you said are things getting better or worse for women?
	Are they getting safer or less safer for women?
	She's saying it's becoming safer worldwide because other countries have better healthcare systems for women.
	In the U.S., we don't support.
	So you're saying...
	Okay, so you're saying...
	That it's maybe unrelated to the fact that it's supposedly a matriarchy in Ireland?
	Yeah, I wouldn't say it's necessarily a matriarchy, but I feel like it's getting to a point where it's balancing.
	It's not necessarily a full patriarchy, and it's not necessarily a full matriarchy.
	So Ireland is becoming less patriarchal, and the United Kingdom, and things are getting better and improving for women.
	I would say specifically in Ireland, specifically.
	I would also say in other different regions.
	Now, I would say specifically the countries that stick more towards Western ideologies, especially in terms of conservatism, I would say that they're more lean.
	The general tendency for all Western countries in the world right now, though, is a few things.
	One of them is cutting benefits.
	So cutting benefits like health care and things like those are on the decline, right?
	People's health is getting much worse.
	Also, we're not even talking about people's mental health.
	Physically, people are less healthy.
	We're talking about deindustrialization.
	People are losing the decent jobs they used to be able to rake in enough to support families.
	People are increasingly riddled with debt, enslaved by debt, and they literally have no prospects for the future.
	Their rents are going up, inflation is going up.
	And by the way, I don't know if you know this, but we're also on the verge of World War III. I do.
	Under a patriarchal society, we are on our way to work.
	But you said all of those are Western countries, correct?
	Those are Western countries leaning towards that.
	But these are examples of a scenario where things are becoming less patriarchal, right?
	Listen, specifically what I said in a global aspect, I said specifically in the United States, right?
	There's still issues affecting women's rights and women's health, and specifically with westernized countries that they are not having the same effects of an equal balance of matriarchy and patriarchy.
	It's not my intention to embarrass you, but I just want to inform you about something.
	And I mean that, I'm sincere.
	You tell me.
	Europe actually, historically, before Roe v.
	Wade, had much more restrictive laws about abortion than the United States.
	Before Roe v.
	Wade, basically what we had were situations where some states, it was legal to have abortions at, you know, eight, seven months.
	You know, crazy stuff.
	In Europe, although abortion is allowed...
	They're actually much more restrictive, and they would be considered very conservative in the United States if we were to adopt most of European countries' laws and apply them here.
	So I don't know if you were aware of that, but it's like this idea that Europe is somehow inherently...
	You know, more liberal on the abortion issue is a huge misconception, actually.
	Well, I don't feel embarrassed, because I never said anything regarding abortion in terms of liberalism, specifically in Europe.
	I don't feel embarrassed about that, but I appreciate you informing me on the fact that they are more conservative.
	Because I heard you mention Roe v.
	Wade as an example of how the United States is worse for women than in Europe.
	I don't think I mentioned that.
	And the repeal of Roe v.
	Wade.
	Roe v.
	Wade, obviously, was a monument.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The repeal of it, yeah.
	So, what makes Europe, specifically, in terms of, like, how does matriarchy in Europe benefit women more than it does in the United States?
	But I don't think that anyone established a specific country, except Ireland and partially some of the UK, that's leading more towards matriarchy.
	I said that the Western countries are more affiliated with the patriarchal culture.
	You think Western countries are more patriarchal than Eastern ones?
	I would say, honestly, both have their fair share.
	Same in Korea, same as in China, same as in Japan.
	Actually, yes, I would say in East Asian countries, matriarchy is more popular than in Western countries.
	But I would say specifically in Korea, I would say that's not the case.
	Because in Korea, it's actually more of a patriarchy.
	Especially because there's high reports and accounts of violence against women, specifically in Korea.
	So I just want to...
	Clarify something.
	Western countries are renowned around the world for having especially less patriarchal cultures than others, just in general.
	And I know I'm biased because I come from a Middle Eastern background, but it's like Western is much less traditional, much more liberal.
	I 100% agree with you.
	I 100% agree with you.
	I don't know if I just haven't gotten sleep, because I kind of feel like you're just constantly saying the opposite of what you just said, like 30 seconds.
	I just think that the bar is so low.
	I think the bar is so low for the standards of caring for women.
	You're also kind of a moving target.
	You know, you've been talking about the U.S. to talking about...
	I'm trying to get to where you're at.
	I'm trying to get to where you're at.
	It's awesome.
	It's great to have someone come in and deal with you for a bit for the first time and let them just see...
	The chaos.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, continue on.
	This is just great for me.
	No, no.
	I'm just saying...
	This is the point I'm trying to get at, basically, so we don't have to keep going in circles or whatever.
	Wait, what was the question that you asked?
	Basically, it's like...
	I'll just tell you my view.
	Instead of asking you, I'll just tell you my view.
	I don't see how...
	The modern countries, let's say developed countries, western countries, let's just talk about America, are becoming more patriarchal.
	I mean, I think that's kind of ridiculous.
	And here's why.
	Because we are shifting more toward a system or a society where impersonal systems are dominating almost every aspect of life.
	Where there's not necessarily an authoritative and responsible figure who's in charge.
	And this is not even just true at the level of households.
	It's also true at the level of workplaces, and it's also increasingly true at the level of how the government itself is run.
	So typically with patriarchy, you can attach authority to a face, someone who's at least accountable, who's at least responsible, a boss, right?
	We seem to be going in a direction where this strange and blind system, just money for money's own sake, we know the big data, the algorithms, whatever, It seems to be just kind of governing society autonomously, which is leading to a total breakdown and devastation of the traditional relationships of society, including that between men and women and the family.
	And I don't think that's a good thing.
	I think that's leading to the destruction of people's mental health, even to their physical health.
	I think it's leading to a widespread confusion and stoking a lot of resentment by men against women and vice versa.
	And I don't think it's useful to try to explain where we're at right now in terms of patriarchy or whatever.
	If anything, the opposite is happening.
	The opposite is happening.
	It's not that we're a patriarchy.
	It's that we're living in a society that seems to have been taken over You know, by a completely anti-human, in general, force, right?
	Which is neither good for men or them.
	But I will say something.
	Whoever's in charge of what's going on and is managing this self-destructive process really seems keen on attaching female faces to power.
	To this power, in particular.
	Why would you say that they're attaching females' faces?
	Can you give me an example besides Kamala?
	Can you give me another example?
	Sure.
	Real quick, before you do that.
	Should women vote?
	Yes or no?
	Yes.
	Everybody says yes?
	Yes.
	This world will be a mess with no women participation.
	Raise of hands.
	Should women vote?
	And empowerment.
	Everybody thinks they should vote.
	Who are you voting for then?
	Let's see where everybody stands.
	I don't vote, so...
	Yo, what the fuck?
	I really wouldn't vote.
	Okay, hold on, hold on.
	I would vote...
	If you have to vote for somebody, who would you vote for?
	Joe Biden?
	I'm leaving.
	I wasn't ready for that one.
	You know, he's old.
	I know, I'm tired.
	I respect the man.
	Who are you voting for?
	I don't vote.
	Yeah, but you just said women should vote.
	I believe anybody who's into politics that they should have the power to vote, but I'm not really into that.
	If you had to vote, who would you vote for?
	I don't know, currently.
	I wish we had better options.
	What about you?
	Given between the two choices, I would say Jill Stein, but anyways, given to the two choices, as a woman living in the United States, I would pick Kamala Harris.
	Okay, what about you?
	I would also pick Kamala.
	Alright, what about you?
	I want to pick Stein, just because she's...
	Given the two choices between Trump and Kamala, who would you pick?
	Wait, but we're not given the two choices.
	Are we not?
	No, those are the two choices pretty much.
	At the voting poll, you can vote for whoever you want, but at the same time, between a choice of two evils of both, choose one.
	So yeah, which of the two would you vote for?
	Yeah, the two.
	Out of the two, I'm not voting.
	I'm not going to give either one of them.
	No, it's the same thing.
	I'm not going to do that.
	But did you just say women should vote?
	They absolutely should vote, and I would do the Green Party.
	That's all I'm doing.
	I'm not voting for one of the Democratic and Republican parties.
	I think I understand this, because I'm not voting.
	I'm not going to vote for either one.
	You just go around real fast.
	And what about you?
	You said women shouldn't vote, right?
	Are you going to vote?
	No.
	What about you?
	Green Party.
	Are you just following her?
	No, I'm not following anybody.
	I said that already.
	I was the first to say it, actually.
	I feel like Kamala...
	Which of the two would you go with that are actually real candidates?
	No, when you go to the voting poll, you can...
	Do you prefer between Kamala and Trump?
	Do you have a preference?
	It's the same.
	You see him as the same.
	I see him as the same.
	Different sides are the same point.
	Who would you lean towards more?
	Yeah, if you had to pick one.
	As a woman of color, who would you lean towards more?
	What does that have to do with anything?
	No, I'm just saying, like, you obviously want something from this election, right?
	Alright, here's a...
	Would you care if Trump won?
	I'm leaving.
	You don't give a fuck?
	I wouldn't give a fuck, because if Kamala won, it's like, same shit.
	It's like, they're not, it's just puppeteers.
	And then there's gerrymandering.
	There's so many shit going on.
	Like, whatever's supposed to happen.
	I don't know, because of Project 2025, I will not support Trump.
	Is there anything about Trump that you find offensive?
	Or, you know...
	He's a clown.
	Does he offend you in any kind of way?
	Um...
	You don't want me to talk about this.
	I was told I was not allowed to say what I want to say.
	I just gave you the chance.
	No, no, no.
	I can't bring it up because he said the words that I'm not allowed to say until after 12.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, okay.
	You don't want that.
	I have one example.
	Let me make it easy for you.
	You don't have to make it easy.
	I was just finding a personal example where I can actually be offended.
	I can't be offended if it's not personal for me.
	So, I mean, my country's Haiti.
	He said it was a shithole country.
	But the embargo is placed on Haiti is the reason it's a shithole country.
	What about you?
	Who are you voting for, Ms.
	Pru?
	Kamala Harris, 100%.
	Arriba las mujeres.
	Kamala?
	Okay.
	Now, for the girls that are undecided, you guys are just going to go green party, I guess?
	Green.
	If I was going to vote, I would vote Trump.
	I'm probably the only person on here that would say that.
	Would anybody here vote for Trump?
	Nobody?
	Okay.
	If I was forced to, like at gunpoint, and I had to choose someone...
	What if you were forced?
	If I was forced, right?
	He's less shitty.
	Because look, Trump's a Zionist.
	I don't support Trump.
	I'll never tell anyone to vote for Trump.
	But if I had to vote for someone, I think I would vote for Trump.
	And it's not even necessarily because I think he's better in terms of policy or whatever.
	I just think that I see the whole system is rallying behind Kamala right now.
	And it's kind of a little bit scary.
	She's playing both sides.
	I get that.
	Honestly, I'd rather take the real devil than the fake devil.
	Because I don't particularly...
	Actually, not particularly.
	I don't like Kamala.
	I work in the cannabis industry.
	Kamala is like the biggest narc in politics right now.
	So it's a little awkward being given the choices that I'm given.
	So why are you voting for her then?
	Because I too don't believe in voting third party.
	I think that it's throwing your vote away.
	It's a lesser of two evils, to be honest.
	Okay, what specifically in her policies make you say I'm gonna vote for her over Trump?
	You know, I gotta be honest, because she's not Trump.
	That was the realest she ever said the whole night.
	Yo, by the way, I agree with you 100%.
	I think it's both sides of the same coin.
	But, to your response, it is rigged.
	So no matter what happens, it is rigged.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So what's the point?
	Yeah, I feel like they're just puppets.
	It's all planned.
	It's like a fucking video game.
	But you know what's funny?
	You mentioned that it's because you don't like Trump.
	And that's the majority of women's vote towards Kamala is because they don't like Trump.
	But a dislike of Trump is a little reductionist, you know?
	Like, I really, really think that Trump is one of the worst politicians.
	Could somebody name one of Kamala's policies?
	And that's my problem with her.
	One of Kamala's policies from this administration?
	The Inflation Reduction Act.
	Okay, one more.
	The Bipartisan Infrastructure Act.
	The point is that nobody really knows her policies.
	They just know what she's saying.
	That sounds good.
	To be fair, she's a vice president.
	When you're talking about the progress of this administration...
	Well, what is the progress of the Vice President?
	I just feel like there's so much going on in the world, which I won't speak on specifically, but for you to have Megan Thee Stallion performing when there's world things to speak about, it's kind of bullshit.
	What the fuck are you going to do?
	Like, what the hell is going on?
	And as a black woman, that's just not what I depicted on my first game.
	So hold on, for those of you that are voting for Kamala Harris, I just want to ask you a question.
	Do you not care about World War III? Does it not matter to you?
	I mean, ultimately, I feel like we're not left with a lot of decisions to make.
	What are we supposed to do?
	If you don't want Trump to win, who should you vote for?
	You know what this country can do?
	If we had a 20% turnout, that would collapse the system.
	If people just stayed home and didn't vote.
	That's all you have to do is just not do it.
	So everybody stay home and don't vote.
	Let's do this together.
	That's the only way for change to ever happen in this country.
	When are you running?
	Because I feel like I'd vote for you.
	I'd vote for you.
	I'm flattered, but listen, I would never be allowed to run.
	That's the thing.
	Why not?
	Because the current system doesn't allow for real opposition.
	It doesn't allow for actual people who stand on anything except Serving the status quo.
	Exactly, so that's why you're still stuck in between a Republican and Democratic party and choosing a puppet between the two.
	Instead of buying into the scam and voting for Kamala and thinking, oh, Kamala this, Kamala that, what you could at least do is prepare yourself for the readiness to accept the collapse of the system, which is inevitable, by the way.
	But how are they trying to prolong it?
	Are you saying the collapse of democracy, specifically?
	The collapse of the current U.S. regime, and we're 30 trillion in debt, it's totally unsustainable.
	Right, and that's the reason for the collapse, because it's all about money at the end of the day.
	It's the simplest way to put it, right?
	But here's the thing, what are they doing to buy themselves time?
	They're capturing people's minds mentally.
	And they're doing, they're exploiting the resentment thing between men and women.
	And so Kamala is this figurehead, and listen, all women and men, it's just a universal thing, they have personal resentments and grievances toward the other sex.
	Why?
	Because of their actual experiences.
	Everyone has an ex, everybody has this, some relationships problem, maybe they have some other problem.
	It's inherent in a biblical society.
	Well, no, it's human nature.
	It's human nature that men and women will develop some kind of degree of resentment based on their relationship history and whatever and whatever, right?
	Yeah, regardless.
	Well, that's the thing.
	That doesn't need to become that huge.
	It's just it's always going to be there.
	So what the system is doing is exploiting that, particularly among young women.
	And it's making Trump the face of your ex-boyfriend.
	It's making him the face of all the men you've ever resented in your life who are preventing everything from you.
	And Kamala the face of the savior and empowerment of all women.
	Let me ask a real question.
	Ladies, ladies, ladies, would it be fair to say that a lot of you guys are picking Kamala Harris because she affords more reproductive rights?
	Would that be fair to say?
	Honestly, no.
	I would say not only...
	Kamala's a moderate, Joe's a moderate, none of them give a shit about my uterus.
	But it's a big part of it because they're more...
	Not only reproductive rights, but female...
	I don't think that she's going to lock in on reproductive rights, so I guess not, because I don't think that she's going to lock in on that.
	No, but I think that voting Trump, but she doesn't have that much power.
	Her reproductive rights, like codifying Roe v.
	Wade, I don't think they're going to do it.
	I mean, she's not all of Congress.
	She says that, but Joe Biden said that too, that they were going to codify Roe v.
	Wade, and they did it.
	Yeah, like they've been campaigning on that.
	Exactly, so I just don't think it's going to happen.
	I feel like everything that she's saying is for the vote.
	Because I'm trying to pick the lesser of two evils.
	I don't believe in not voting, and I don't believe in voting Green Party, you know, or third party in general.
	Okay, so for the rest of you, would it be fair to say that you guys are voting more because of reproductive reasons?
	Because of reviews on reproductive rights?
	She's more lax, part of it.
	No, I would say I'm the same thing with Gia.
	I'm the same thing with Gia, saying that it's lesser than an evil.
	What makes her luster?
	Hold on, real quick.
	In your opinion, is he a bad person?
	Trump?
	Who?
	Yes.
	A criminal?
	Bad person?
	Yes.
	That's what it is, bro.
	He's a felon.
	He's been painted as a bad person.
	But he is a felon, though.
	He's a felon.
	Alright, I got one last question for the girls.
	And a rapist.
	What's more important?
	Yeah, he's definitely a molester.
	He takes advantage of...
	Okay, just be quiet for two seconds.
	What's more important?
	Reproductive rights or foreign conflict?
	I'll ask you this.
	What's more important?
	Reproductive rights is of human rights, so I would say that's definitely...
	Can she answer real fast?
	Say it, babe.
	Which one is more important, foreign conflict or reproductive rights?
	Reproductive rights.
	Okay, what about you?
	Reproductive rights.
	Okay, what about you?
	Reproductive rights.
	Sure, what about you?
	Um...
	Don't do it, girl.
	I see you cooking.
	Do we go to war or do we have abortions?
	Foreign conflict or reproductive rights?
	What's more important, honestly, I would say foreign conflict because war.
	Based.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Don't get mad at me, but foreign conflict.
	You think foreign conflict is more important than reproductive rights?
	Well, she understands.
	Her money.
	No, it's just, listen, I'll tell you one thing.
	Not even that.
	I personally don't get mad at me women.
	I've seen a lot of women that are clients of mine that literally get an abortion every other fucking month.
	We know.
	And it's a sin.
	And I understand that.
	Please don't get mad at me women.
	I'm pro female!
	I love y'all!
	Let me get everybody else.
	Reproductive rights or foreign conflict?
	I have to finish my point.
	Okay, reproductive rights.
	Reproductive rights.
	Foreign conflict.
	Why do you say foreign conflict?
	Because I just believe with the wars and everything that...
	Hundreds of thousands of people dying.
	Okay.
	Millions.
	Foreign conflicts or reproductive rights?
	What's more important in your opinion?
	Too hard, bro.
	I think Joe Biden already clarified that reproductive rights should be like...
	Okay.
	Reproductive rights.
	Okay.
	Do you want to finish what you were saying, Mom?
	Don't be mad at me.
	I can literally solve this for you right now.
	Okay.
	I'll solve it for you right now.
	If, let's say, an underage girl was raped or something, God forbid, and they needed to do an abortion, I would say take that fetus out of her and put it into someone who can't carry!
	Put it into someone who cannot carry!
	At no point in the recent history of abortion laws in the United States was this ever called into question.
	Because that's why somebody told me that someone was ever called into question.
	The repeal of Roe v.
	Wade Harmed, yes, the extremely liberal laws that some states did have, maybe.
	But if those states continue to be liberal, they can keep those on the books.
	But anyway, look, here's what I wanted to ask you, because you chose reproductive rights, right?
	Yeah.
	So, to you...
	Most of them did.
	To you, the extremely liberal abortion rights that Roe v.
	Wade enforced on the whole country, those are more important to you than hundreds of thousands of children getting blown up and dying?
	I feel like the way you phrased that question is...
	When we're talking about foreign conflicts...
	But I just want to clarify the specific Roe v Wade situation that's going on, right?
	So what I want to identify is the amount of women who have lost their life due to the fact that It's not due to an abortion.
	Of course it's not.
	But it's a human right.
	Every human should have the ability to have access to medical care.
	You know what else is a human right?
	That's not my country.
	I'm not a citizen there.
	I understand that war is impacting, but at the same time, the United States is a juggernaut in the entire global capital.
	They have major influence over these small countries.
	Is it still your country if your brothers and the men in your life are being sent to go die in war?
	I am a citizen here in the United States of America.
	How about Do you not care if your fellow male citizens are being sent to die?
	Let me ask you, when was the last time that every United States citizen who was a man over the age of 18 was drafted?
	When we fought the Vietnam War, we had a draft, and Vietnam was a small country, and we were fighting in jungles.
	The next war we're going to have is World War III. When was Vietnam?
	Which is going to be against Russia, China, Iran, and you bet your ass they're going to start bringing the draft back.
	There's no other way around it.
	But what I'm saying specifically is that you're not highlighting the issue that it's a major human rights violation.
	What is that?
	When you say war and conflict, you're talking specifically about war.
	I'm talking about the foreign policy agenda.
	Because that's a loaded question, right?
	I was referring to war when I asked that question.
	One thing was specific and one thing was very broad.
	Right.
	And also, that's a domestic issue versus a global issue.
	It's domestic versus global.
	Don't you think it's kind of worrying?
	Why would you compare a domestic issue to a global issue?
	Listen, I'm not here to bully you and isolate you, but there are many young women who think like you do, and don't you think we should be a little worried that so many people are gibbering about human rights abortion in the face of nuclear war?
	I didn't say human rights and abortion.
	I'm talking about...
	How can you say abortion rights are more important than preventing nuclear war?
	Can I speak real quick?
	I did not say abortion rights.
	You said reproductive rights.
	What happens in a reproductive system?
	You can become pregnant.
	What happens if you have an eptopic pregnancy and your life is on the line and the only thing that's going to save your life is an abortion?
	But guess what?
	It's illegal in your state.
	And you have to fly and get in a helicopter, go a couple states over just to get the medical attention that you need.
	What happens if you're bleeding out and the doctor tells you the only way that he can save your life and the child's life is if he pulls that child out at that moment in time?
	What happens if you get bombed?
	Oh, that's not an extreme?
	Okay, what's the last time the United States, besides 9-11, when's the last time there was a domestic terrorist attack besides 9-11?
	The next world war isn't going to be a domestic terrorist attack.
	Okay, but don't you understand that this is a domestic issue?
	It's not a global issue.
	The foreign policy agenda that's in place right now...
	A foreign policy is completely different than human rights.
	Yeah.
	Human rights in the United States is completely different.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	You know what's scary?
	You know what's scary?
	Huh?
	Give me a second.
	Listen.
	What's scary?
	The money we spent on Vietnam bankrupted us and is why we've...
	Why were we even in the Vietnam War?
	We should've never...
	Why were we even there?
	Because we had to take our badass nose out.
	No, no, I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
	It was for abortions and human rights.
	No respect to any of the veterans who lost their lives and who contributed.
	You don't care.
	I do.
	I have veterans in my family.
	Anyone who puts their life down for their country, I'm going to respect you.
	You're going to have honor according to your family because you're putting your principles down.
	How does that relate?
	I gotta throw it back to the beginning.
	That was not the question that y'all asked.
	Let's rephrase the question because you know what?
	I want everyone to get a second chance.
	Reproductive rights versus foreign policy, not abortion versus war.
	I'm not here to bully y'all.
	I want to give you a second chance.
	I feel like we're having a great debate.
	So what do you think is a more pressing and urgent matter?
	The current foreign policy orientation of the US government or reproductive rights?
	Go ahead.
	Again, this is just such a weird question where the two don't compare to each other.
	So you don't want to answer?
	Let me answer.
	You're talking about one domestic policy issue versus a conglomerate of foreign policy issues.
	What war are you talking about?
	What foreign conflict are you referring to?
	So for example, we've pumped hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine to fight Russia.
	So we're escalating that war and we're going to get involved there.
	So should the United States focus more on domestic reproductive issues or the Ukraine war?
	Is that your question?
	Let me give you an example.
	Is that your question?
	Let's say Trump was actually, I don't think he will, but let's say he's actually going to end that war and he's going to end NATO's aggression.
	He's going to end the United States' escalation of the foreign wars.
	He's not.
	Right, right, right.
	But he's going to completely get rid of reproductive.
	Which one's more important to you?
	Well, you're asking me these hypotheticals based on more hypotheticals that don't apply.
	All I'm trying to emphasize...
	You can say they're both important.
	Listen.
	They're both important.
	They're both important.
	But they're not both important.
	They're not related.
	Here's what I'm trying to say, though.
	It's not even fucking close.
	That's what you're trying to get somebody to say, but that doesn't make it true.
	But it is true.
	The foreign policy direction of our government is a million times more important to be concerned about than reproductive rights.
	Again, singular domestic policy issue versus a conglomerate of foreign conflicts.
	No, no, no.
	It's a small, single policy issue that barely has any impact on anything.
	Small, single policy issue.
	The issue of abortion.
	The issue of abortion is a small, single policy issue.
	Because what we're talking about is the fate, not only of America as a whole, But all of humanity, a nuclear war, that's way more important.
	But you're talking about the issue of abortion being a small, single policy issue.
	Yeah, it's a nothing burger.
	One policy.
	It's a nothing burger issue.
	Okay, explain that.
	It doesn't matter.
	What the fuck?
	So you're not going to explain it because you can't explain it.
	Because in the long-term view of things, as far as how screwed we are right now as a country, it should be so low on the list of priorities that someone in Ohio...
	So why would you put those two up together and tell us to compare them to each other?
	Because you shouldn't give a fuck about those in that box that you weren't trying to.
	I can take over these decisions.
	We are business owners, entrepreneur people, just helping to build an economy.
	We cannot make decisions over these big-ass questions that you're asking.
	You could start by not voting for Kamala Harris.
	If that's what you want, Haas.
	If that's what you really, really want.
	I agree.
	Look, I'm flattered, but it's not about me.
	This is about...
	As many people as I can reach that the thing we should be focused on if we're going to think about politics right now.
	If we have to, you don't have to think about politics.
	I love to think about politics.
	If you're going to spend your time thinking about politics, stop getting trapped in these nothing burger issues.
	Just because you say it's a single policy issue doesn't mean it is Haas.
	It's obviously a multi-policy issue.
	We had a discussion, right?
	On Monday, about the news that's happening in the world, we spoke about the voting of male and men.
	Sorry, men and women, right?
	And we brought up what's going to happen when they vote from emotions and feelings.
	They're going to say, you know what?
	Kamala's a woman.
	She's defending my rights to have abortion, all this stuff.
	Vote for her just off of that policy alone.
	Granted, though, he's staying on a larger scale.
	It is a nuclear war.
	You know what's going to happen to us?
	A third of us might die.
	A third of us.
	Of the population.
	Which means abortion is a serious topic, of course.
	It is a serious topic.
	But a third of the earth dying from nukes is way more important.
	So why did you guys pigeonhole us into that question to begin with?
	When you said, which is more important?
	Did you guys vote for Kamala just based on abortion?
	Which is more important, abortion or more?
	are being toted against abortion and foreign policy.
	That's what it is.
	But they also, do you see the facts in the time that they controlled this conversation?
	Yeah, not before the reason.
	So, hold on.
	It's happening right now.
	We're literally talking about this because it is happening right now.
	To be clear, though.
	Yeah.
	To be clear, let's set the record straight.
	Myron asked you, what do you think is more important, foreign conflict or reproductive rights?
	You voluntarily said...
	Most of them said reproductive rights.
	Reproductive rights.
	So, I was interested and kind of baffled at that, and I wanted to press you on it to see why you made that choice.
	Because the main reason, if we're keeping it basic and generalized, as if we're not on the verge of a nuclear war, right?
	If we're going to keep it basic and generalized...
	I would say establishing equal human rights for every United States citizen is necessary before even thinking about foreign conflicts.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Are waging unconstitutional wars a violation of our rights in any way?
	Waging unconstitutional wars?
	Give me an example, for example.
	The Iraq War.
	Okay.
	I would say, specifically, it is unconstitutional.
	Okay.
	Do you think that it's in any way a violation of our rights, our human rights, as American citizens, when our government and the people who rule us are trying to drive us into these huge conflicts?
	100%.
	Those are the people that we love who are going to a war that they don't have to be.
	So foreign conflicts started and waged by the United States violate our human rights, right?
	100%.
	And I would say there's even more political...
	So why is that violation of human rights less important than reproductive rights?
	Because you guys are trying to create a competition that doesn't exist.
	Why?
	Why did you answer Myron in the first place?
	Because the question was asked differently.
	Because I genuinely feel like that.
	Which are you more personally concerned with is different than what is the more important policy of the United States government?
	Let's get the record clear.
	Myron asked you foreign conflict reproductive rights.
	You choose reproductive rights.
	You say, well, Han.
	You said, I asked why.
	And then you go, because reproductive rights are a human right.
	I said that.
	Now I'm asking you.
	She said that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, you said that.
	And now I'm asking you, is it not a violation of our human rights that these foreign conflicts are being started?
	And you said yes.
	So where is the logic?
	There is no logic, bro.
	There's nothing there.
	America just has stopped sticking her dick into everyone's country.
	Get the hell out of here.
	Relating back to big government in the personal decisions of your life.
	They are going to, at some point, they are going to affect a specific decision within your life.
	And it's actually very important.
	Just like with reproductive issues, it's the same thing when it comes to human rights.
	So it's the same or one is more important now?
	Look, I said it's the same thing when it comes to human rights as a United States citizen for all.
	Why do you guys try to pigeonhole these questions?
	I have given you both so many life rafts to get yourself out of this hole.
	Nobody needed a life raft from you, Haas.
	You're not smarter than anybody at this table.
	That's fine.
	So your final answer...
	We're all keeping up, are we not?
	We're good, huh?
	Yes, yes.
	We're good.
	Go on, though.
	So your final...
	This is a marathon?
	On this topic, your final answer is that...
	Actually, I reject the question entirely.
	Is that your final answer?
	What?
	The question keeps changing.
	The context of the question keeps changing.
	The specifics of the question keeps changing.
	How did the question change?
	Reproductive rights versus foreign conflict.
	You're not happy with our answers and a justified response.
	I don't think you really thought this out.
	That's what I think.
	I don't think that you understand that women also have human rights.
	We should have the same human rights as you.
	But I also think that women who are getting bombed and killed have human rights as well.
	Hold on, let me ask this.
	For all the ladies here, raise of hands.
	Do you think voting is a right?
	The ability to vote is a right.
	Raise your hands.
	It's a right?
	All of you agree that it's a right?
	If it's a right for everybody, it should be a right for women.
	Yeah, it's a right for...
	Okay.
	So you guys look at voting as a right.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	But honestly, after this end of this conversation, as far as getting specifically as what you meant, as far as global conflict, obviously, I'm going to choose that over reproduction.
	We mentioned yesterday, on Monday...
	It's a lot of bitches in here.
	There's a lot of niggas in here.
	The majority of votes...
	Lay down on the fucking...
	Just be safe, be careful.
	So we mentioned on Monday, right, the prediction of who's going to vote, who they're going to vote for.
	Yeah.
	And we mentioned women are going to vote for Kamala.
	Yeah.
	And it's on display right now what's going to happen because this is the population, bro.
	They're going to vote off of feelings of how they feel about abortion.
	And as a result, who they're going to vote for?
	Okay, but at the same time, I also refer to the fact if one of us, specifically women, if I'm in a room with Trump alone, and I'm in a room with Kamala alone, guess who I'm going to feel safer with?
	Kamala!
	But she's Biden!
	I'm not going to lie.
	I see Kamala like Oprah.
	I'm not saying they're amazing people.
	But that's also, I want you to understand that women are specifically looking for security.
	And if they don't feel like security is found within a candidate, then we're not going to let you know what is going on.
	Here's the problem with this way of thinking.
	It's a very uneducated way of thinking.
	I'll tell you why.
	Why is it?
	Because I find that it's sexist.
	Because as an educated young person, or I don't know how old you are, but as an educated adult, your...
	Approach should not be personal.
	It shouldn't be do I like this person personally more.
	Why?
	Because they are figureheads and faces that represent systems, that represent impersonal institutions.
	But we all have a personal vested interest in politics.
	You should regard Kamala and Trump if you want for that matter.
	Imagine it's the same thing but they're just robots.
	It's just a figurehead.
	It's not personal.
	They represent something impersonal.
	So you should focus on the details of what interests that they represent, what forces they represent, and what direction they're going to take the country in.
	You shouldn't focus on...
	Okay, but specifically Trump is going to take the United States country into a more right section, more conservatism.
	What's your name?
	I don't know.
	What is it?
	What's her name?
	Go Tati.
	Tell him, girl.
	Tati.
	Tati, listen, this is not...
	My name is Tatiana.
	Tatiana, this is not American Idol.
	Of course it's not American Idol.
	But specifically, tell me, if you vote for Trump, you're voting for the Republican Party, correct?
	So then the Republican Party is going to have the major rule for four years.
	Right, but the Democrats have had rule for four years and nothing changed.
	Damn.
	And nothing will change.
	Okay, but wasn't Trump just in office?
	You mean before Biden took office?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And what happened during that time?
	You tell me.
	Okay.
	Trans people were banned from the military.
	The executive LGBT... Oh, no!
	Oh, my God!
	That's the worst.
	Trans people banned from the military.
	You can't have transgender people being drafted?
	I don't get why that's such a problem.
	You're like, oh, if men are drafted, women should be drafted.
	I'm saying, why should I... Why is it bad?
	Why is it bad that transgender people were banned from the military?
	You missed the other four things that I said.
	Why should I care about that?
	But trans people have every right to defend their country as anybody else.
	Why wouldn't you want trans people to defend the country?
	Because they're fighting wars that are just leading us down a path of self-destruction, killing millions of people and destroying their country.
	I'm going to read the chats real quick and then we'll come back to this topic with the whole thing, the policies with Can I ask her one question real quick?
	Tatiana, right?
	Tatiana.
	Tatiana, would you prefer to be in a forest with Trump or a bear alone?
	Would I prefer to be in a forest with Trump or a bear alone?
	A bear.
	A bear.
	Over Trump?
	Yeah, 100%.
	That's all I need to know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Where we at here?
	I'm going to read some of these chats.
	Okay.
	What was that, Mo?
	Good job, baby.
	Okay, because they're kind of crazy?
	Let's do our sponsor today.
	Yeah, yeah, we'll do the sponsor now.
	And ahead to Rumble.
	And then, okay, yeah, let's...
	It is time, actually.
	Yeah, yeah.
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	Can we read some of the chats?
	Or can we have some of them?
	I'm not even going live.
	They're all bad?
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	Well, let's finish up this conversation here, then we'll switch over.
	We'll stay on a little bit longer.
	Go ahead.
	Because you guys were talking about...
	Or no, here, look at this.
	I can do the FNF. Okay.
	Ladies, let's say that you're at a bar or some kind of event and a man approaches you.
	He's confident and smooth, but he tells you he's there by himself.
	Is it a big deal or is it a weird?
	Okay, we'll do this one with a raise of hands.
	You're at a bar.
	Guy's queuing everything, but he tells you he's there by himself.
	Is that weird or not?
	Raise of hands if you think it's weird.
	Why would that be weird?
	If he's by himself at a bar?
	At a bar?
	Yeah, at a bar.
	Yeah.
	Guys are by themselves at bars all the time trying to pick up chicks.
	That's not weird.
	Okay, so raise of hands.
	Noah thinks that's weird?
	I don't think that's weird.
	He's just having a good time.
	Yeah.
	He'll cap it right now.
	I think men should be able to go out and have a good time.
	You're at a bar with your friends, niggas by himself randomly, and he's like, hey, what's going on?
	You're like, oh, who you here with?
	Nobody.
	Wait, okay, okay.
	Let me ask you this.
	He's just hanging out and he just came for a drink.
	Let me ask you this.
	Are we talking about like a little bar or are we talking about like live or a leaven?
	A bar, a bar.
	Let's say we're on a blackbird.
	It's fine.
	And he's by himself.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	You say that now, but I'm sure in person would be different.
	Why is that weird, though?
	How is that weird?
	What if he just wants to meet someone or have a drink that night?
	Steve-O says, Yo, Mario, it was great to finally meet you last week at the hotel in Las Vegas, a Mexican restaurant with my wife.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, yeah, I remember you, bro.
	Ladies, how many of you want to build slash grow with your man?
	Also, what does that mean to you?
	I think every girl here wants to.
	I do.
	Build an empire, baby.
	My wife and I met back at 18 and 98.
	She stayed at my side through every downfall.
	My wife was at her highest sexual market value and me and Lois.
	She was submissive and nurturing from the start.
	That's building.
	FYI, ladies, if you're over 24,304 baggage time, you can't build with a man.
	If you're over 24, yeah.
	If you're over 24, okay.
	True.
	Ladies, if you abort, is your husband morally justified to divorce you and not pay you alimony considering that marriage is the building block to family?
	Serious answers only, please.
	So, okay, if you abort...
	Okay, so if you abort a baby, can he divorce you?
	Raise of hands if you guys think, yes, it's ground for him to divorce you.
	For aborting a baby?
	Yes.
	If it hurts him that much and he's destroyed by it, I don't know.
	Okay, can we do a raise of hands?
	If you abort the baby, do you guys think he's justified in divorcing you?
	I just feel like it's too many...
	What if he got pregnant and he literally said, I don't want you to abort the baby.
	I would be like, okay, yeah, you should get divorced.
	If you agreed beforehand that you would be having kids, I think it's a little different.
	Chat, the answer tells you everything you need to know.
	What if he's abusive or not financially responsible?
	Exactly what you said.
	If you agree that you're having kids and that you want to grow a family and then that woman decides that they're going to abort their child without even talking to you, then yes, 100% understand if you choose divorce.
	You all are truly retarded.
	It's actually amazing.
	Keep it up.
	That's really right, Byron.
	Aw.
	Thanks, love.
	Thanks, Durag Myron.
	I've had enough.
	These chicks are trying to sound intelligent but can't answer simple questions.
	Can't even define emotional intelligence.
	Talking in circles.
	Y'all think you're so smart.
	What are three primary colors in the color chart?
	Shout out FNF. Red, blue, yellow.
	Red, blue, yellow.
	Got the ass.
	Got the ass.
	The Real Frank Castle says, "First time commenting, these three or fours don't understand that they are living in a world that us man created." That's patriarchy, goddammit!
	Sorry!
	Goddammit!
	"I'd love to take one of them and have them wheelbarrow 300 pounds of concrete to see how fast they're quick." I actually can.
	Why do you need to do that?
	I thought you were such a masculine man that you would take care of them.
	Wait, but aren't we equal?
	You can do that too.
	Big Ting says, by the way, it's why women absolutely should not be in control of anything as far as rulership is concerned.
	Just from this conversation here and the fact that they keep contradicting everything they say is a prime example.
	Females are full of chaos.
	Holy.
	All right.
	Beautiful.
	Captain Snuggle says, yo, these chicks are retarded.
	They would rather both allow for the murder of babies and send new dudes off to their death and relinquish reproductive rights and try to use shit arguments to justify it.
	Brainless bullshit, okay?
	Daniel, never read, and I'll give you ladies a chance to respond.
	Growing the pink with curly hair gives me the hope for women.
	She, the most wifey material out of all of them.
	He said, yeah, she just sings over there.
	She like the...
	What?
	That's it, that's it.
	Okay, nothing else, does it?
	Yeah, Mark.
	Okay, and then other chats you're saying aren't YouTube friendly?
	Yeah.
	Let's go back to finishing up what you guys were saying.
	You guys were talking about the issue with the military, and you wanted guys that, well, people of the Alphabet community to serve.
	Yeah.
	She was saying that it's an example of, you know, we need to prevent this.
	What are the other things you mentioned?
	He wouldn't let them in the military?
	Yeah, there was the executive act that prevented LGBT people from receiving full access to health care.
	What does that mean?
	Can you clarify?
	Yeah, so in the Executive Act, it allowed healthcare providers to discriminate based on perceived sexuality.
	So if they perceived you to be a member of the LGBT community at Walgreens, they could refuse you pharmacy.
	An ambulance could refuse you help.
	Especially as a queer person, I'm an American.
	I'm a patriot just like everybody else.
	It may not look the same as it does to you or anybody else, but if I wanted to serve for my country, I would want the honor to serve for my country.
	Has that negatively affected you in any way?
	The executive order?
	It hurt to know.
	It hurt your feelings?
	Yeah.
	If you're asking, did I almost die?
	No, I'm straight.
	Did it in any way tangibly affect you at all?
	I'm not...
	Did it tangibly affect anyone you know at all?
	Like anyone in your world?
	Yes!
	I had women that were refused when they go to Planned Parenthood to pick up their birth control.
	Oklahoma doctors refused to fill that birth control because the prescription was from Planned Parenthood.
	Because the prescriptions were from Planned Parenthood.
	Because they were LGBT? Well, the assumption was that if you go to Planned Parenthood that you are either LGBT or you're getting an abortion.
	Planned Parenthood serves a lot of LGBT people.
	Don't get lost here.
	Planned Parenthood serves a lot of LGBT people.
	So when people bring prescriptions from Planned Parenthood, the pharmacists were allowed to deny those.
	So when pharmacists see women coming with prescriptions from Planned Parenthood, they're like, oh, there's a really good chance they might be LGBT. Yes, because Planned Parenthood provides specifically queer health care.
	Do you think people that identify with this community should have children?
	If they want to.
	Of course.
	Absolutely.
	I think anyone should have children if they're fit to be a good parent.
	If they're a good parent.
	Let me make sure I have this correct.
	So you guys are okay with two women, two men?
	So long as there's love in the family.
	Look, I came from a separated, you know, divorced family and I don't think they should have had kids, but other parents...
	Can we do a raise of hands real quick?
	How many of you also agree that people of any alphabet community can have children?
	So long as there's love.
	Raise of hands, please.
	So I have an idea.
	And money.
	Is that everybody?
	Except for- So long as there's love.
	If there's love, it's okay.
	Can homosexuals adopt or do IVF? Yeah, I think so.
	Have kids.
	Have kids?
	Okay, do you think so?
	If it's a loving home.
	You disagree?
	You're the only one that disagrees?
	Okay, but everyone else thinks that they should be able to have children.
	Okay, I just wanted to get an idea here.
	Sorry.
	What were you saying?
	You're talking about the Planned Parenthood.
	I just want to get that question.
	Yeah, I think I had finished up my statement as far as Planned Parenthood provides specifically queer healthcare, so a lot of queer individuals do go to Planned Parenthood specifically for their healthcare.
	Is that really true though?
	I never knew that.
	Yeah, like for example, people that get PrEP, a lot of lower income queer people get PrEP from Planned Parenthood.
	I thought everyone went there to get the abortions because they were free.
	They're not free.
	You can't know for certain, but just off your intuition, how would you break into women going to Planned Parenthood because they're LGBT? I think a variety of women visit Planned Parenthood because I think Planned Parenthood services every demographic of women.
	Do you think the overwhelming majority are straight, normal women?
	I really couldn't answer that.
	Genuinely, I... I mean, do you know anything about the demographics of Planned Parenthood?
	I would be willing to bet the overall majority.
	You can't even identify a straight woman from a gay one.
	Ayo!
	True, but I've never heard that Planned Parenthood was like an exceptionally LGBT. But it's so open.
	I don't think she said that it's exceptionally LGBT. Semantic.
	Anyway, you regard this as having done enough harm to justify that we need to prevent Trump in 2024.
	I do not support a president who would write an executive act specifically to harm LGBT people.
	That's what I was saying.
	Not that it was so deadly that every gay person had the risk of dropping dead.
	But don't you think that this kind of mentality...
	Does undervalue the risk to people in terms of real harm, like people actually getting bombed and dying?
	See, you keep going to the bombs, and all Trump had to do was just not write the executive order.
	Then we could have focused on the bombs.
	Then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
	That's what I mean.
	I think...
	I think this is kind of why I reject the elections, because it's an attack on the human rights of the whole people of the world.
	I mean, the fate and destiny of entire countries and peoples rests upon your feelings about this guy.
	It's kind of ridiculous.
	My feelings?
	That's a threat to LGBT people if they're not allowed to fill their prescriptions.
	If they can't get their PrEP and they have HIV, that's a problem.
	Like, for their health.
	But weigh that issue in comparison to everything else that's at stake.
	But if you weigh every issue to genocide, the genocide is going to win every time.
	Not even just genocide.
	What about inflation?
	Okay, go on.
	I assumed you were going to talk about the damn bombings again.
	Don't you think that the price of rent going up for literally everyone making it impossible to live is also a really big problem?
	Sure, but if you die from HIV, rent's not really a problem for you, is it?
	So to be charitable, is your position basically like, all these real problems cannot be affected in any way by me, and I have no say in them or affecting them, so they basically don't factor into any political decisions I make at all?
	No, I don't think that.
	Well, I mean, it kind of sounds like you are.
	It kind of sounds like you're saying, okay, when it comes to wars, when it comes to inflation and all these other kinds of things...
	No, you haven't asked my opinion on wars separate from another topic that you want to pigeonhole me into talking about.
	Who do you think would be better for the security of the world?
	Kamala or Trump?
	The security...
	Of the world?
	No, no, define the security of the world.
	Preventing World War III. Neither.
	The fuck?
	I mean, I'll say Trump.
	I feel like Trump has better global affairs than Kamala.
	I don't.
	I think he sucks dick better than Kamala.
	He sucks Netanyahu's dick.
	He sucks Putin's dick.
	His sucking dick works.
	Sometimes sucking dick is necessary.
	I'm looking at those two countries.
	I can't say it's not working.
	But hold on.
	I agree that Trump's a Zionist.
	That's why I'll never vote for him.
	But you just said that you would vote for him.
	You just said you would vote for him.
	I said if I had a gun to my head.
	If he had a gun to his head.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	Feelings.
	So I agree that he's a Zionist, but you just said he's kissing up to Putin, right?
	I said he's kissing up to Netanyahu and Putin.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Which, again, he's trying to keep a healthy relationship so they don't...
	Why is it bad for the United States to have a good relationship with Russia?
	How is Russia committing a genocide?
	Against Ukraine?
	Where's the genocide?
	Against Ukraine?
	Do you know what genocide means trying to erase cultural, physical, or ideological groups?
	Beautiful.
	So, before the Putin special military operation, it was Ukraine engaging in a genocide against the Russian speakers in East Ukraine.
	Did you know that?
	That's not true.
	Yes, it is.
	Are you talking about going back to Crimea in 2015, or where are we at?
	Did the annexation of Crimea force Ukraine to ban the Russian language?
	I'm saying, are we before Crimea or after Crimea?
	Let's say after Crimea.
	So between 2015 and 2019.
	Sorry?
	So we're talking about like between 2015 and 2020.
	If you cared so much about genocide, you wouldn't have your crosshairs pointed out, you wouldn't have your target pointed at Russia, you'd have it against Ukraine.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Ukraine was threatening to and carrying out.
	They weren't yet just killing everyone, but they were engaging in a cultural genocide.
	When you say killing everyone, how much progress did they make?
	Ukraine tried to ban the Russian language.
	What did they do?
	They tried to ban the Russian language.
	What did they do?
	They had laws...
	What did they complete and succeed?
	They had laws that were being signed to ban the Russian language and to crack down on the ethnic identity of the ethnic Russians, Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine.
	Cracked down on the Russian identity.
	So you're denying the...
	I'm asking, I'm asking.
	What laws are you talking about that cracked down on the Russian identity?
	The laws couldn't succeed because...
	So they didn't commit a genocide.
	Period.
	So, this is the problem with interrupting me, because the only reason they didn't succeed wasn't because the Ukrainian government...
	So they didn't commit a genocide.
	Can we mute the mic here?
	You clearly don't have the self-control to engage in this conversation.
	I'm clarifying.
	They attempted a genocide and were not successful.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I want you to get everything off your chest right now, and when you're done, let me know.
	Sure, sure.
	So I just want to clarify.
	They attempted a genocide.
	They did not succeed.
	Are you done yet?
	Are you going to answer the question?
	Are you done or no?
	I asked you a question.
	The only reason that the genocidal law wasn't able to be enforced wasn't because Ukraine gave up its genocidal intent, but because these ethnic Russian speakers decided to separate from the state of Ukraine and declare The republics independent in the Donbass, which started the civil war.
	So in order to protect themselves, they had to literally secede from the state of Ukraine.
	The state of Ukraine wanted to commit a genocide against them, and the only reason they were able to prevent that is because they seceded and declared independence.
	So they did not commit a genocide against Russia.
	Can you confirm that?
	What does that have to do with genocidal intent?
	Because that's what you were saying, that Ukraine was actually the one genociding Russia.
	Look, who can't lock in on a position now, Haas?
	What's up with that?
	Look, did Ukraine successfully genocide Russia, or was it an attempted genocide?
	Between Ukraine and Russia, only Ukraine has ever had genocide.
	Only Russia has successfully genocided Ukraine, not the other way around.
	That's my point.
	How?
	Because they are currently in a genocide against Ukraine.
	How is it a genocide?
	A cultural and physical genocide.
	How is it either?
	How is it either?
	Because they're obliterating the Ukrainian people physically.
	Structurally.
	Is it Russia?
	Structurally.
	Infrastructurally.
	Governmentally.
	Economically.
	Is it Russia that's doing that?
	Or is it the Ukrainian government that's enlisting elderly people and disabled people to go and die?
	Obviously it's Russia.
	Obviously it's Russia.
	It's a major powerhouse.
	It's a major global powerhouse.
	I'm confused behind your logic.
	Can you please explain what's the difference?
	But I want to understand your logic here.
	So you're saying specifically that we're really having a hard time keeping up.
	I can see that very clearly.
	It was a joke.
	No, no, no, I don't think it's a joke.
	I'm going to take it earnestly.
	Anyway, look, Russia has committed no genocide, and only Ukraine has ever had genocidal intent.
	Oh my god, okay.
	So, you're saying...
	Russia going into Ukraine to protect Russian speakers is genocide?
	Well, you just trying to state that that's what they were doing doesn't make it a fact, but if that's what you believe, then that's what you believe.
	We confirmed, though, that Ukraine did not genocide Russia.
	Right?
	Right?
	Can you confirm that?
	All I said is they had the genocidal intent.
	So they didn't.
	Correct.
	Intent is not action.
	Therefore, Russia committed genocidal actions towards Ukraine.
	But the only reason they were prevented- If you were going to get prosecuted in the state of court, and you committed an action, not an intent, you're going to get violated for prevention!
	This is funny, this is funny.
	Yeah, Haas, how does it feel?
	Huh?
	How does it feel to do this?
	Um, look, I have the patience of a saint, that's kind of the whole thing, but it's like, um, these are like NPCs who see the media, and they're like, He says that he's right.
	It's like playing chess with a pigeon, right?
	He shits on the pieces, knocks everything over, and then struts away like he won.
	I will get five words in, and you'll interrupt me.
	Why are you so afraid of me getting my point in?
	Because you do the same thing to us, Haz.
	You've also been interrupting us.
	I think I've been very charitable and generous as far as my ability for you to speak.
	You think so, but we're telling you that you haven't.
	I feel like I've had a proper conversation with you.
	You're telling me that, but that doesn't mean it reflects reality.
	Oh, so you do understand that concept.
	You do understand that just saying something doesn't make it true.
	That you're delusional?
	Yes, I accept the concept of delusion and you're the example of it.
	But wouldn't you say that respect goes both ways?
	Sorry.
	I feel like we've had a good conversation, right?
	Let me just read these real quick and then...
	But you feel that way?
	Right, but I think a lot of things about that war...
	Is that a generalized statement that you feel cut off?
	I think I'm trying to explain what actually happened in Ukraine and you guys are just interrupting.
	No, you said it.
	It's not true.
	You said it and it wasn't true.
	It's a swing and a miss.
	That's what it is.
	Do you deny that there were independent republics in the Donbass that seceded from Ukraine?
	No, I don't deny that.
	Okay.
	How was it not true?
	So what did I say that wasn't true?
	I said I don't deny that.
	So what did I say that wasn't true?
	As far as Ukraine committing genocide against Russia?
	Bruh.
	But you kept saying, but the only reason they weren't able to do that is because the Russian-backed forces seized that from Ukraine.
	So they did not complete the genocide.
	If they had their way, but if they had their way, they would have.
	But they didn't!
	You want to live in these hypotheticals?
	I'm living in the wrong world.
	What's this lady's name?
	Gia.
	My name's Gia.
	The only reason the special military operation happened and Putin went in is to protect those republics.
	Bro, I know.
	That's the only reason.
	I know.
	I'm saying it didn't happen.
	And you won't just say that.
	Why won't you just say that they did not successfully genocide Russia?
	Why won't you just confirm that?
	Ukraine did not successfully engage in a genocide.
	Thank you.
	Because that's not what you said earlier.
	Because Putin prevented it from happening.
	Because that's not what you said earlier.
	You said that they committed a cultural genocide against Russia.
	They were trying to and they were prevented.
	That's different than they did.
	That's different than they did.
	And by the way, the founders and the forefathers of the Ukrainian state, Stepan Bandera, did commit genocidal acts against Russians, Jews, Poles, and others.
	But that's not what we're talking about.
	That is Stephan, but he is the founder of the Ukrainian state.
	You might as well go back to the Soviet Union!
	Alright, I'm gonna read these chats real quick, and then I gotta...
	I've been taking notes throughout this whole thing.
	Very interesting.
	LyricalRosa says, Russia will either be Russian, the core of the strongest in the world, or it will disappear, but then it'll be better for everything to disappear.
	Alexander Dugan.
	Okay, Paving the Road says, I said the TTS and it didn't go through, but these dumbasses don't realize that the patriarchy is necessary because women can't run shits.
	So it is real.
	Accept Christ and prepare for tough times.
	These secular liberal whores choosing abortion over preventing nuclear war is all the proof you need.
	Narcissism and godlessness will be the end of this.
	So me and Andrew were actually correct.
	Okay.
	Anything else?
	No.
	Okay, so do you have anything else that you want to say as far as like Russia and genocide?
	Because we're going to transition over to chaos.
	Yeah, like 14,000, 15,000 people slaughtered.
	It's not genocidal to you?
	We're talking about the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
	Ukraine killed up to 15,000 Russians.
	We're talking about the current conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
	You want to move to a different topic?
	I think it was a different topic.
	What genocidal act has Russia engaged in?
	Name one.
	What?
	First of all, the annexation of Crimea was a genocide in and of itself because Ukraine laid claim to Crimea.
	Ukraine owned Crimea.
	So annexing territory is genocide?
	Yes, when another country has already laid claim and it's recognized by the United Nations.
	The fuck?
	So violating the United Nations recognition of territory is genocide.
	Bro, Putin is wanted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes.
	Do you know what genocide means?
	Like, do you know what it actually means?
	Yes.
	I just asked you that.
	Yeah, we just had this conversation about the meaning of genocide.
	But you didn't want to answer me.
	We talked about cultural genocide, we talked about physical genocide.
	To you, genocide is annexing territory that's not internationally recognized?
	I don't think that she said that as a statement in her terms of definition for a genocide.
	She said the annexation of Crimea was a genocide.
	She said that qualifies as characteristics of a genocide.
	That was the beginning of the Russian genocide against Ukraine.
	In what way was the annexation of Crimea a genocide?
	Because that literally caused the violent conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
	No, that's not true.
	The modern conflict that started at the annexation of Crimea in 2015.
	It started with the coup in 2014.
	Crimea was the catalyst.
	It started with the coup in 2014 that overthrew the democratically elected president that the Russian speakers voted for.
	But Crimea was still the catalyst.
	The people of Crimea were the ones that voted for the couped president.
	And the annexation of Crimea was the catalyst to the violent conflict.
	No, it wasn't.
	The violence began much earlier than that.
	But as far as the war that we're talking about, Crimea was the catalyst.
	No, the catalyst was the coup.
	I don't agree.
	I think that's just a difference.
	Yeah, I think it's a difference to the opinion.
	It did not happen before Crimea, but in my opinion...
	When they were burning people alive in theaters and massacring Russian speakers and stuff, before the annexation of Crimea, in your mind, that wasn't a catalyst?
	That violence of the Azov Battalion and the neo-Nazis, that wasn't a catalyst?
	I think it was horrible, you know, obviously, but as far as, like, being the trigger, no, I think it was correct.
	You know, I think the problem is, I don't think I have the IQ to keep up with you here, in terms of your reasoning and your logic.
	Alright, so, look, look, look, this is what we're going to do.
	We're going to move on.
	I've been taking notes diligently throughout this conversation.
	I have a lot to say.
	I'm going to go ahead.
	We're going to switch to Castle Club, guys.
	I'm going to go ahead and make my comments there.
	But yeah, I have a lot to say here, and I'm probably going to offend some of the ladies here at the table, but I think this podcast has definitely cemented what I've been saying for years now at this point.
	Guys, come on over to Cast Club, castclub.tv.

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