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Telegram Founder ARRESTED In France!

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	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to the Pressure Podcast on a Tuesday, man.
	We're going to be talking about the news, guys, because we had an important debate yesterday.
	Let's get into it.
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	Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man, a.k.a.
	we're live on a Tuesday.
	It's been a while since we've been live on a Tuesday.
	We're going to be covering the news for you guys.
	We're here with Haas and Andrew Wilson.
	I'm excited for a quick announcement against the show, guys.
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	Should be pretty dope.
	All right.
	And then today we're going to cover a bunch of topics regarding Trump.
	Durov?
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	That's his name, Durov, right?
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	No, so we're covering Trump, his new indictment.
	Telegram CEO. Yeah, Pavel?
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	That's pretty much it, though.
	Freshman, what the fuck, bro?
	What the fuck, man?
	Yeah, guys, we're gonna be covering a bunch of stuff, man.
	We're gonna be covering...
	Trump just got hit with a superseding indictment.
	We're gonna talk about the Telegram CEO. We're gonna talk about Andrew Tate.
	We're gonna talk about...
	RFK joining the campaign with Donald Trump, which that was huge as well.
	We're going to talk about the girl that was with the Telegram CEO. We're going to talk about Marcus Houston.
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	But yeah.
	So we got a bunch of different things that we're going to cover today.
	And then yeah, can you guys introduce yourselves to the people?
	We know who you are, but...
	Yeah, I'm Hazaldeen.
	I'm executive chairman of the American Communist Party, host of the Infrared Show.
	Ah, my name is Andrew Wilson, host of the Crucible, chairman of the Fuck Communist Party.
	So that's, you can find me over there on the Crucible.
	I always like to do with chairman.
	Chairman's such a great, what a great thing to say about it.
	I'm the chairman.
	But yesterday, who won that debate?
	Definitely me, for sure.
	I mean, no questions asked.
	It's me.
	For sure.
	Well, the comments were split.
	You know, obviously, that's how you know it's a good debate when, you know, the comment section there, there's like a war going on in there.
	But I'll tell you guys this.
	So, guys, quick little announcement for you guys.
	Haas is going to actually stay in Miami a little bit longer.
	We're going to go ahead and have a debate for you guys on communism versus capitalism.
	That's it, on Thursday, okay?
	So it's going to be really, you know, more focused.
	Obviously that debate was on morality, Christianity, Islam.
	We talked about communism versus capitalism a little bit, but on Thursday we're going to do the debate that's focused on capitalism versus communism.
	We're going to talk about the economic ramifications of both.
	Why one part...
	Might be better than other, and we're going to focus on that.
	We're going to come up with some questions and some time rounds, etc., then obviously open it up for some dialogue.
	So it'll be a good debate.
	That'll be on Thursday at 8 p.m.
	work for you guys?
	Yeah, it works.
	8 or 9 p.m.
	on Thursday.
	And then tomorrow we're going to drop the Dan Bilzane interview for you guys.
	The full version is going to be on Rumble for obvious reasons, but it's going to be on YouTube and on Rumble.
	Because we talked about certain things that will only be on Rumble.
	And I think you guys know what I'm talking about.
	So, what else?
	And then...
	I'm trying to think if...
	What else?
	Any more interviews?
	No, Hodgkin's already dropped, right?
	Yeah, we live-streamed the Hodgkin's one.
	Go check that one out.
	You guys really enjoyed that one, man.
	I think their interview of me is going to come out soon as well.
	So I did an interview with them, and then I came back the next day and I live-streamed with them.
	They are some laid-back, cool guys.
	Yeah, they're very funny.
	Just talking real talk.
	They're funny, man.
	Yeah, we made a lot of jokes.
	It was a good time.
	So go make sure to check them out.
	TwinsPod is where it's at.
	But anyway, we'll open up with the first story.
	You can hit up the Trump indictment first.
	So, this is crazy.
	Shout out to Laura Loomer for breaking this.
	She's always real quick when it comes to breaking anything that deals with Trump.
	Jack Smith's grand jury has brought a new superseding indictment against President Donald Trump in an effort to interfere in the 2024 election.
	Jack Smith is trying to work around the July 1st SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity.
	And I think it's very important for you guys to understand Just to give you guys a quick little overview of his criminal case, I'm going to turn it to the panelists.
	Trump has been indicted in four different jurisdictions, okay?
	He got indicted in the state of New York for the business records stuff that he got convicted of for 34 counts.
	He got indicted in the District of Columbia, as you guys can see here, federally, for these violations that you see right there, conspiracy to defraud, blah, blah, blah, all that.
	Then he also got indicted in the Southern District of Florida, Miami Division, for...
	Either way, I think it was Miami Division for the documents case, and then he got indicted out of Georgia for the RICO case for very similar charges to this when they alleged that he tried to throw the election.
	And that's when him and all his lawyers got indicted too.
	Giuliani, etc., they all got indicted.
	So he's getting charged in four different jurisdictions, two state cases, two federal cases.
	If I'm not mistaken, the case down in Florida has pretty much been thrown out.
	The judge...
	He said that there was no basis to appoint Jack Smith to charge him in the first place, so therefore it's unconstitutional.
	But you can see here Jack Smith has went ahead and filed a superseding indictment on the case in Washington, D.C., which a superseding indictment, guys, just means that they pretty much beefed up the charges or came with new charges, and now the charges that were on before, they're being either upgraded and or new charges are being added.
	That's a superseding indictment.
	So that comes in and takes over the old charge, and obviously in the United States an indictment, guys, is a formal charge Buy a grand jury of your peers where you're formally charged by the government.
	And this is a federal case.
	I've explained how the grand jury process works and how you get indicted in the United States before.
	If you guys really want me to explain it again, I can.
	But I'm going to turn it to the panels here and see what their thoughts are.
	Yeah, so it's no shock to me.
	The Democrats will continue to throw everything they can at Trump.
	And any time you look behind any of these indictments, by the way, it's always Democrats who are behind them.
	They're always pushed by leftists.
	And most of the charges are usually bullshit.
	Almost, I would say, every single time they're bullshit.
	Everything from the jury selection, everything...
	Is hand-coordinated to take Trump out of this race.
	Some of the most biased jurisdictions for this.
	All Democrat strongholds.
	There is no fucking way that they're going to let Trump win this election.
	They're just not going to do it.
	Democrats are never going to do it.
	Not in a million years.
	They don't want him back in there.
	They want Kamala Harris in there.
	And I think both sides, I think the Republicans would prefer to have her in there too.
	It is all out, get Trump.
	That is what this is.
	Did you hear that they cleared some vet space and space firm in Rikers in September?
	Really?
	Yeah, I heard.
	So he's actually being sent to prison?
	There's a high likelihood.
	For the New York case where he got convicted for the false business documents, they were clearing space for him at Rikers.
	Well, you know, you have to think about it.
	I don't want to get too paranoid and too conspiratorial, but would that really hurt him that much?
	That's a good question.
	Because, you know, here's the thing.
	Trump right now, he's very low energy.
	He's very old news.
	He's very kind of, he's lost his edge.
	And a sitting president running from prison, it's like that brings some new excitement to it.
	It could reinvigorate his voters.
	It could make him more appealing to people.
	I think it'll help him.
	I agree with you.
	I think so, too.
	I think him going to Rikers will help him, if anything.
	That's why I think it's not going to happen.
	But we'll help enough, though.
	I think with Trump where he's at right now, his reputation is ruined.
	And let's say, for example, the majority of voters are going to be women.
	They're going to say, oh, he's a felon, even though they don't know what's going on completely.
	It's like, they're going to judge him based off of these charges alone.
	And it's like, at that point, who's going to vote for him?
	I mean, like...
	Obviously people that...
	If Trump's in prison, it'll limit his access to media.
	And the one thing that the media establishment fears, and they've talked about this many, many times, the media blames themselves for Trump winning the first time around.
	Because he got billions and billions of dollars in free advertisement, even if it was negative journalism against him.
	Everybody was always talking about Donald Trump.
	It was very entertaining.
	People enjoyed watching it.
	The media blamed themselves for this.
	And there is a very real fear, and they talk about this, of Trump kind of igniting a media firestorm again, where these people just cannot help themselves but write story after story after story about Trump.
	And he has not thus far been able to capitalize on that political advantage, I think because he has really bad advisers.
	But he could.
	He could start the rallying again and he could say some inflammatory shit.
	Every mass media everywhere would be writing about this guy, giving him that same kind of boost that he had during his original election.
	I'm looking at the average voter's mindset and they're going to think to themselves, look, as a criminal, I don't want to rule over this country.
	I think he's a bad person.
	Just because he's charged with these charges, right?
	My thing is, like, the majority of voters are going to be women.
	That's the crazy part.
	I think the issue with Trump this time around is that, first of all, the things he said in 2015-2016 were unprecedented for a serious presidential candidate, at least in this century.
	I'm sure there were crazy presidents before saying outrageous things to the public's sensibilities.
	Andrew Jackson was one of them, wasn't he?
	Yeah, that's literally what I was thinking of.
	Not sure I'd say he's crazy.
	No, no, no.
	He dueled and killed people, right?
	That's what I'm saying.
	He was one of the first presidents that would...
	If I'm not mistaken, it was Angela White-Jackson?
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Not every president was like a queen cut in a suit.
	Wasn't that Alexander...
	Wasn't that Hamilton and Burr?
	Let me look it up.
	I think it's Andrew Jackson that would challenge the visuals.
	Put it this way.
	In the post-war period, let's say, I don't think, I mean, maybe Nixon's an exception, but even then he was very tame.
	Trump, I mean, he was a reality TV host.
	He was saying all these things that were super politically incorrect at the time, and everyone was just shocked by it, right?
	The shock factor's gone, I think.
	I think if he would have said the same thing that he said in 2015-2016 right now, it's not going to have the same effect because we're already accustomed to it.
	We've already endured four years of Trump.
	Now, here's what I think, though.
	He could have a chance of winning, I think, this is my opinion, if he understood what exact base is actually going to get him elected.
	And it's the base that cared about things like NAFTA. It's the base in the Rust Belt that cares about trade.
	These people are very politically apathetic a lot of the times.
	But he managed to mobilize them and get them out to vote in 2016.
	You know, the blue-collar working class in the Midwest and elsewhere.
	And for some reason, he's not aware that that is what actually got him the presidency in 2016.
	And this time around, he's not really...
	He's more moderate now.
	Well, he's a typical Republican now.
	He's calling Kamala a communist.
	That's his edge now.
	I mean, that's like some shit we would get from the Tea Party or from Mitt Romney or something, you know?
	It's like, he's not...
	His advisors, they really are screwing him over.
	You make a valid point that we do want the 2016 Trump.
	That's what we want.
	We want this guy to be out there saying, no, build a wall.
	Build the wall.
	Throw the illegals out.
	Screw these people.
	Empty the swamp.
	Empty the deep state.
	Let's get into that.
	He's not doing that.
	What his advisors are telling him is, look, the Republicans don't have the numbers.
	They don't have the numbers anymore to win elections.
	Objectively, that's kind of true.
	They really don't have the numbers anymore to win elections.
	So, what he's trying to do is he's trying to do what all Republicans before him have done, and open this up into big tent Republicanism, move towards LGBTQ, move more towards the female vote.
	He wants to mobilize that female vote, and he wants to mobilize it in a big way.
	I think the problem with Trump, the reason the Trump phenomena of 2016 will never come back, I think it's had its due, it's done, you know?
	And the reason for that is because We're good to go.
	Trump was very domesticated and very tamed during that administration, and he's even doubled down in that direction this time around.
	And in 2020, you know, he failed.
	Well, he was hamstrung.
	They did everything that they could to hamstring him.
	They had false investigations, multiple impeachments.
	The guy was not allowed to do a fucking thing.
	Anytime he moved any type of policy forward, there was a collaboration to destroy his entire life.
	Every single time.
	How are you going to impeach this guy in two false impeachments?
	Two false impeachments they knew wouldn't go anywhere just to drag the circus along to stop his administration from moving forward the legislation that he wanted.
	The guy was totally hamstrung.
	Many political pundits at the time were saying, even Democrat political pundits, man, they really just need to leave this guy alone so that he can at least try to move some of these changes forward, and then you can criticize him on the changes.
	To your point, I think the Trump back in 2016 gave shock value and he actually gave people what they wanted, which was the change.
	He sounded different, he had that appeal, and he was, like you said, shock value.
	But he's been through a lot, you said earlier, bro.
	He's been through a lot.
	I mean, any human being that's been through what he's been through would probably either commit suicide or even say, you know what, I'm done with this shit, I'm over it.
	So, by default, he's going to be a different person because he's been through a lot.
	Now, granted, though, people do want the old Trump for 2016, but with that word nowadays, I don't think so.
	Well, yeah, I mean, if you're Trump, look at it from Trump's position.
	You're a multi-billionaire, right?
	And you were kind of beloved by the population before you ever ran for presidency.
	Nobody was out there calling Trump a racist or a sexist or anything before the election.
	He was kind of known far and wide by almost every celebrity.
	They all loved him.
	They were all good, close friends with him, this type of thing.
	From his perspective...
	Yeah, this was huge in the 2000s.
	Yeah, from his perspective, he goes, yeah, fuck this.
	I'm going to go enjoy my billions and humping Melania every day and fuck all you people.
	You almost can't blame the guy, right?
	You almost can't blame the guy.
	You know, the issue, though, is that he was faced with a choice.
	You know, let's just say being charitable.
	He realized he's under attack from all directions, so what does he do?
	He doubles down...
	Or he doesn't double down, sorry.
	He...
	He focuses on the allies he can make within the Republican establishment in order to protect him.
	That's always been his strategy.
	But I think he should have taken more risks.
	He should have tried to cultivate his actual new movement more.
	Because the MAGA voters in 2016 were not your typical Republican electorate.
	It was a new type of political beginning.
	These people used to vote for Obama, actually.
	actually.
	A lot of them used to vote Democrat.
	They weren't really classical Republicans in a traditional sense.
	He didn't do enough to cultivate that politically.
	He didn't do enough to kind of get these people in administrative positions and appointing them and so on and so on.
	He instead opted for making alliances with the Republican establishment, which he's really, I mean, especially now he's faced the pressure legally, He's really, really doubled down in that direction of really trying to Well, it created...
	He had an impossible task going in that he needed the Republican establishment to help him push his agenda forward.
	He had to have that.
	And whoever he brought into his administration was not going to have the same type of political power as the establishment who was there.
	These are the same guys who have been putting the, what you would call the deep state, which is just lifelong officials, which are in appointed positions.
	The current Congress knows who all of these people are.
	Many times they appointed them themselves.
	He needs the establishment, which is there, to move his agenda forward.
	He needed that.
	So he was trying to make deals, cut deals with them, because that's what he is as a dealmaker.
	How could he have brought in his own people into these keynote positions?
	He still would have had to work with the establishment Republicans.
	Maybe this is going far beyond the pale as far as what he even understood his mission was.
	He should have done the absolute most to cause as much chaos as he possibly could while he was in that administration.
	Although he should have done the most he could have, not in order to see through his policies and his agendas, because it's not going to happen.
	This is an issue of sovereignty.
	The government right now is occupied by a deep state.
	It's not accountable to the public.
	It's not something we can elect.
	It's not something we can vote for.
	So, if you're going to go against them in any kind of way, you better prepare for war.
	And that's what it is.
	It's a war.
	And what's the conclusion of that war?
	It's maybe something a little more radical than, you know, what we could expect from elections.
	It's a systemic breakdown.
	It's a breakdown of the...
	I mean, I know I sound fucking crazy right now, but it's like...
	It doesn't sound crazy because it's true.
	But the thing is, is all the defectors who are there, the deep state...
	And this was stated to Trump multiple times.
	Schumer said it himself.
	If you go against the intelligence community, they have a, what did he say?
	A thousand and one ways to make you pay.
	And he's not kidding.
	He's saying, look, these people can dig up dirt you never even thought.
	You forgot about this shit.
	But Trump had the people on his side.
	But the thing is that once the media realized its mistake of if you run Trump news 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, that's really, really bad for you because it just draws all attention to Trump.
	Everybody wants to hear everything Trump has to say.
	Even if they hate him, they want to hear what he has to say.
	Once the media figured this mistake out and started backing off on the 24-hour Trump coverage and Trump bashing, that was the worst thing that ever happened to Trump.
	Well, isn't it also true that there was alternative media that started getting developed at this time where people weren't really looking to mainstream media anymore for answers?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think there was a whole new movement that was going on.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And he didn't do enough to develop it or invest it.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I agree that he could have done more to cultivate the base and to play K.
	I mean, even the rallies this time around have been kind of pathetic.
	He's not doing the same type of rallying that he was, where you saw just lines of vehicles for miles and miles and miles to come out because the guy was like a rock star.
	I agree with all of that.
	I'm just saying that I think that that needs to be tempered with the reason of if you are in office, these establishment shills...
	They are entrenched in power, and if you want to move a legislative agenda forward, unfortunately you have to deal with them.
	There's no way around that.
	I don't see how you get around that.
	Yeah, it's an unnecessary evil.
	It's a necessary evil to deal with, which kind of sucks.
	But no, I mean, I think what you were saying before, as far as, like, his approach to politics was unprecedented in 2016.
	He came in as a businessman.
	He was saying all kinds of stuff.
	He wasn't politically correct.
	And I think it was a stark contrast to Obama, who was politically correct, very well-spoken, very eloquent, etc.
	Said all the right things, charming and everything else like that, versus when Trump comes in and uses, like, maybe 100 words in his vocabulary, and he's like...
	We're going to build a wall.
	The US government is as much a pageant show as it is an actual formal government with sovereignty and all those kind of things.
	It's a show.
	It's like a theme park.
	It's a theme park of democracy.
	Obama's a big character in it.
	He's an actor.
	The Clintons are actors.
	These are all people that are aligned and accepted, and they're accepted characters.
	Trump was a fucking crossover that...
	He came from The Apprentice.
	Yeah, he was a media guy, sure, an entertainer, but it's like this was a horror show crossover in their eyes.
	This guy's sneaking backstage and he's ruining our pageantry of democracy.
	That was something I don't think they'll ever, ever forgive him for, no matter how much he tries to appease them.
	He did so much damage.
	All politics revolves around interpersonal conflict and the WWE style.
	In front of you, we hate each other.
	We loathe each other.
	We can't wait to destroy each other.
	And then behind the scenes, they're having dinners with each other.
	They're going out with each other.
	They're doing whatever they can to advance whatever their personal...
	Political agenda is on the front side telling you they're doing exactly the opposite so that they can placate their base.
	But that's always the case.
	It's always the case that politics has to be a pageant show.
	You have to make a spectacle.
	If you don't make a spectacle, you can't get attention.
	So, I don't want to bleed too much into another news story, but it's like, you know, the decisive thing in 2016 is that this was the rise of social media.
	You know, they did all these studies and they did all these investigations, Cambridge Analytic and all this stuff.
	They found out that Trump's His real reach as far as media was concerned and how his supporters were getting access to fake news and stuff, it was a new form of media that they couldn't really fully control through social media.
	And I was going to say that because of new changes in big tech when it comes to Trump.
	I don't know if it's on the news.
	Yeah, we're going to talk about that actually with Zuckerberg.
	Yeah, yeah, that's what I was...
	Yeah, because...
	We've transitioned to that right now.
	Yeah, yeah, because, you know, a lot of...
	I don't know how many people know this.
	J.D. Vance is the guy he chose as vice president.
	That's a Peter Thiel guy.
	Now, Peter Thiel is part of the PayPal mafia.
	He was with Elon Musk.
	And these are kind of like some of the founding fathers of Silicon Valley, so to speak, right?
	And also, Peter Thiel was close with...
	He was an early investor in Zuckerberg, too, if I recall correctly.
	Yeah.
	So, the Silicon Valley, that class of billionaires and, you know, Jeff Bezos and all those, they are not necessarily in league with Wall Street.
	I mean, they're fully dependent on them, and ultimately, you know, they have the same ties to the Department of Defense and the agenda and so on and so on, and they have their own agendas.
	But...
	If you always notice, the political correctness that's been enforced on social media has been the most grotesque and inauthentic anywhere else.
	You know, like how they're enforcing it on Facebook and how they were on Twitter before Elon Musk.
	Well, I think a lot of that was due to overcompensating because they were appeasing...
	This kind of external pressure to assimilate.
	I mean, if you remember, Trump was in front of Congress, in front of all these senators, sorry, not Trump, Zuckerberg, when they were questioning him.
	It was like a total meeting of different worlds, like Zuckerberg's coming from Silicon Valley, and this is the old, you know, traditional...
	You know, government machine, and they're totally alienated from each other, right?
	So it doesn't actually surprise me that now Zuckerberg is coming around more to Trump because he feels it's safer to.
	Now he saw with X, with Elon Musk, and he has a kind of personal rivalry with him, and Elon Musk is openly supporting Trump.
	I think that's self-preservation.
	I think they kind of understand, especially after the assassination attempt, I saw Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, and a lot of these people, because after the assassination attempt, especially when he picked J.D. Vance, everyone from Silicon Valley, all these guys were legacy Democrats, by the way.
	They always voted left.
	They all jumped on the Trump train, because I think to them, they're like, okay, we're going to be able to be better preserved with Trump on our side, and we'll donate to the thing.
	And also, I think it's because of...
	A lot of them are Zionists and have heavy support for Israel.
	That's true.
	And they knew that he would go ahead and, you know, give them what they need.
	So I think two parts were self-preservation and obviously his foreign policy with Israel.
	So, yeah, I mean, Zuckerberg, man, I think he's a snake.
	I think he's just doing what he needs to do to preserve himself and preserve Facebook.
	It's the same with all of Silicon Valley.
	But it's fascinating, though, because it's like the whole establishment, all the corporations, all the media, all of big business, whatever, they're all rallying around Kamala.
	Now they are.
	A huge degree of them, right?
	Yeah.
	But it's like, is the Zuckerberg thing here, is this new?
	Yeah, it came out like a day or two ago.
	Right.
	We can pull it up here.
	I'll read some of the letters.
	Do you have commentary before I read the letters?
	Well, I was just saying, it's interesting how we're starting to see Silicon Valley, it seems like, not get on board with the Kamala agenda.
	There seems to be a rift going on there.
	I don't know if it's too much to read into that, just from Elon Musk and Zuckerberg and Peter Thiel and whatever.
	Yeah, because they doubled back.
	Once Trump almost got shot, a lot of people came out...
	Right before Trump got shot, I think he had a meeting or he did a podcast on Silicon Valley with all these tech guys.
	And then obviously J.D. Vance was a big part of the reason why he picked J.D. Vance, despite the fact that he's heavily unliked, is because of his links to tech.
	Well, also, I think that a lot of these tech agencies don't really realize or understand that this is a massive favor system which happens in Washington.
	And Zuckerberg's expecting, of course, that he's going to get some kind of scratch in the back.
	If he's going to be censoring on behalf of an administration, scrubbing information, things like this.
	So when he comes with his hand out and says, okay, now it's my turn, what are you going to do for me?
	And they say, nothing, go fuck yourself.
	I'm certain that that upsets these guys, right?
	They don't understand that that's part of the game.
	And they thought that they were going to get something, and it turns out they don't get anything at all.
	Sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	Oh yeah, no, I just want to clarify, you know, I'm not trying to make these Silicon Valley guys out to be like some kind of anti-Semitism.
	I mean, you alluded earlier, there are ties to the hardcore Zionists, but they also have ties to elements in the DOD, like the real hardcore, hardcore deep state, right?
	But there's elements in that deep state that are like...
	Right, right.
	But they're so extreme.
	Eric Prince, he's part of the network.
	They're so extreme in terms of the agenda they have for America that even the mainstream establishment considers them too dangerous or too whatever.
	But so it's kind of like it comes full circle.
	It's like the people that seem like...
	They're being disaligned from the agenda are actually the ones who want to accelerate it to an even more aggressive degree, you know?
	So it's always something important to bear in mind, I think.
	Yeah.
	Rogan had TL on, and I listened to him talk for a little bit, and I was like, this guy's a fucking weirdo.
	But as a lot of these billionaires are, you know, a lot of the time they're extremely solipsistic, you know, very not in touch with the real world.
	Mark Cuban is like this too.
	I don't know if you guys have ever listened to Mark Cuban.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like these guys are like...
	The thing is, they've been rich for so long that they kind of forgot how to identify with the regular person.
	So they just say a bunch of sensationalized stupid shit and they think that the world revolves around them.
	And this is very typical of a lot of billionaires that I've noticed whenever I watch their interviews.
	It's like they don't have a touch with reality because they've been rich for so goddamn long.
	They don't care about us as a people.
	They just care about their agenda.
	And as a result of that, they kind of plan towards what they want done at all times.
	And also another thing with these people is they care about influence more than anything.
	They don't care necessarily about money anymore.
	They care a lot about influence.
	They want power.
	It's data.
	Data matters more than anything.
	Mark and Elon have all the data because with their database, bro, they could get anyone in the world almost.
	There's also a great disconnect which happens, I think, when you can just raise your hand and get whatever you want.
	And it doesn't matter what it is.
	If you want a jumbo jet, you can just have it.
	If you want an island, you can just have it.
	You disconnect from objective reality and you start to forget how the world works.
	You no longer are a part of the world the rest of us live in.
	Yeah.
	Real quick, let's pull up this letter real fast from Zuckerberg.
	So Zuckerberg regards working with Biden-Harris administration.
	So this is on a dated August 26, 2024, if we can make it bigger a bit.
	And I'll just read something.
	I'm not going to read the whole thing.
	Eight million views.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, it's wild. it's wild.
	Be clear about our position.
	Our platforms are for everyone.
	We're about promoting speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way.
	As part of this, we regularly hear from governments around the world and others with various concerns around public disclosure and public safety.
	In 2021, senior officials from the Biden administration, including the White House, repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humor, And satire and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didn't agree.
	Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down, and we own our decisions, including COVID-19 related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure.
	I believe the government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it.
	I also think we made some choices that, with the benefit of hindsight and new information, we couldn't make today.
	Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction and we're ready to push back if something like this happens again.
	Okay, so you post that when it matters.
	Nice job, Mark.
	In a separate situation, the FBI warned us about a potential Russian disinformation operation about the Biden family and Burisma in the lead-up of the 2020 election.
	That fall...
	When we saw a New York Post story reporting on corruption allegations involving the then Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's family, we sent that story to fact checkers to review the temporarily demoted and temporarily demoted it while waiting for a reply.
	It's since been made clear that the reporting was not Russian disinformation and in retrospect, we shouldn't have demoted the story.
	We've changed our policies and processes to make sure this doesn't happen again.
	For instance, we no longer temporarily demote things in the U.S. while waiting for fact checkers.
	Wow.
	We're sorry.
	We fucked up.
	Yeah, translation.
	We fucked up.
	We're sorry.
	Sorry about that.
	When this critical information was out there, we said that this is part of a Russian disinformation campaign, and it never was.
	And it prolonged the process.
	Perfect timing.
	Unbelievable.
	Apart from content moderation, I want to address the contributions I made during the last presidential cycle to support electoral infrastructure.
	The idea here was to make sure local election jurisdictions across the country had the resources they needed to help people vote safely during the global pandemic.
	I made these contributions through the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
	That's his wife, if I'm not mistaken, right?
	That he built a statue of like a simp.
	They were designed to be nonpartisan, spread across urban, rural, and suburban communities.
	Still, despite the analysis I've been showing otherwise, I know that some people believe this work benefited one partly over the other.
	My goal was to be neutral and not play a role one way or another, or even appear to be playing a role, so I don't plan on making a similar contribution this cycle.
	Respectfully, Mark Zuckerberg.
	That's really funny.
	First and foremost, moving back to the idea of the Russiagate, that was always one of the weakest narratives that the Democrats ever had, and they really had a hard time selling it.
	It was built on the faultiest foundation ever.
	They could never really present any proof to the American public of any of this ever happening.
	They just kind of had these really weak allegations, which initially Clinton was just using as a talking point against Trump.
	I don't think that they ever had intended to try to build an entire impeachment off of that, which is what they ended up doing.
	But it's wild to me that at the time, that Zuckerberg, as all of these stories are coming through, Facebook is saying it's Russian disinformation.
	You were seeing it on Twitter.
	This was false news.
	Yeah, false news, fake news.
	You're seeing it everywhere.
	And it turns out, and I think we're going to see a lot more of this kind of press release of, well, gee, guys, you know, we're sorry.
	You should still trust us, even though we fucked you and told you a narrative which was completely false that the government insisted we tell you, right?
	How are you going to trust a company like that again?
	So there's a club called the Meta Club.
	And a bunch of programs, for example, X, Instagram, all these platforms have a club.
	In the club, they have rules that they have set for each person that goes in the club.
	It could be, for example, No Shoes Allowed.
	Only white t-shirts, you can't say X, Y, Z. And as a result, these platforms have power because they control each user in the platform and the club, which means by default, whatever they set as the perfect agenda for people to follow, you have to follow.
	But if you don't follow it, you're either canceled or delete off the platform.
	And this is another example of them censoring real information because they were pressured by the government to do so, which means fake news all over.
	So one thing I find interesting is that, you know, in the post-war period, all of the press, the mainstream press in the United States, and especially with the rise of cable television and whatever, it was all really controlled by the government, or we should rather say the deep state.
	You know, it was in coordination with the CIA that made sure that the news cycle never disaligned with the agenda of the state, the government, or whatever, right?
	So there is always a kind of understanding at that level that the media people are consuming, the information people are consuming, and is spreading, is compatible and aligned with the agenda, right?
	Yeah, you're talking about the synergy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a synergistic relationship.
	So, here, Zuckerberg is saying, we want Facebook to actually be independent, you know, we don't want to be involved, we were going to take precautions within our company so that we don't have to directly listen to the government or whatever.
	If it happens again.
	If it happens again, right?
	But I'm kind of torn in terms of whether I should just be cynical and say, okay, he's trying to deceive people.
	I'm not sure if that's because he understands Facebook.
	A lot of it's used by older people, and it's used by a lot of the people who might lean more conservative.
	Or is there really a rift that we're seeing between the traditional kind of state machine that was built after the Cold War and these kinds of new forms of technology and information?
	I think there could even be a simpler explanation than kind of this dynamic power struggle.
	It could really just be that the government is costing these companies a lot of resources with their endless inquiries and their kind of cloak and dagger bullshit.
	And so, as Zuckerberg points out here, we allocated all these resources to this.
	We had various people working on this.
	It cost us a lot of money.
	What the fuck are we getting here out of this?
	And it could just be as simple as we want to create some distance between ourselves and the government because it just costs us a lot of money to deal with the endless paperwork and inquiries and nonsense that they're asking us to do.
	It may not even be as complex as we're trying to distance ourselves.
	From these political administrations based on some value structure.
	It could just be purely profit motive.
	No, definitely.
	100%.
	It's clear.
	We've seen it.
	I don't know if it's a show.
	Again, how conspiritual do you want to be?
	I've got something to say after you guys.
	We're going to have to switch the rumble, though, when I say what I'm going to say.
	We saw Zuckerberg, you know, in his hearings in Washington, and that he was like a space alien, I mean, aside from the fact that he's just like extremely awkward and autistic or whatever.
	Reptile?
	Yeah, he was just like, he was coming from a completely different kind of milieu than the traditional government, the traditional power structure, and I think that there's something...
	There's something to investigate as far as, like, has Silicon Valley prepared us for a new type, a new structure of statehood, a new machine of statehood?
	And is that necessarily going to be a good thing?
	That's what we have to ask, because although it's opposed to the Democrats and although it's opposed to Kamala and so on and so on, Do they have something lined up for us that might be, you know, even potentially worse?
	Doesn't this lean into the kind of Torva idea of what he calls the parallel economy?
	And with a parallel economy is going to come a parallel government, right?
	So if what's going on is these alternative forms of media are beginning to gain independence, and they have their own platforms for streaming, they have their own ways to collect monies and revenue, and they have their own products that they're selling, that is a parallel economy.
	There's no doubt that that's a parallel economy.
	Wouldn't that necessarily have some governance around?
	I think it would.
	It's a new niche of political power and state power and sovereignty.
	It's an unmarked territory of sovereignty.
	Digital sovereignty, we'll call it, maybe.
	Yeah, and the traditional form of state sovereignty has not really been able to assimilate it.
	Well, it doesn't have the mechanisms yet.
	It hasn't caught up with the technology, right?
	That's exactly it, yeah.
	At least not yet.
	Not yet.
	It will.
	It will eventually.
	Yeah, it will.
	Well, I think it already has, in a sense, a deep state.
	This is coming from, ultimately, the military from a long time ago.
	But the traditional form of sovereignty, Congress and the Senate and all these other kind of superficial bureaucracies, to what extent is it going to have to be totally kind of swept up to accommodate and adjust to it?
	Well, they won't full control, so at some point, everything's going to be controlled.
	What you can post, what you can say, what you can't say, and then either you end up in the gulag or you shut off.
	Well, and also, well, we'll get to that story later, but it ties in pretty well to this, too.
	It does.
	What did you want to say?
	Oh, I was just gonna say this ties into the telegram.
	Oh, the telegram story as well.
	Censorship at its finest.
	Okay, so real quick, let's switch to Rumble real fast for like a minute, because I have something that I want to say that I know I can't say out on YouTube.
	So just come on over, guys.
	Well, maybe I'd get away with it, but nah, let's just be safe.
	Yeah, come on over.
	Switch on over to Rumble for just a minute, because I'm going to tell you guys something.
	This whole Facebook situation and stuff like that.
	You already did?
	Where did you switch it?
	Yeah, confirm we're on Rumble, and then we're going to go back on.
	Oh, there we go.
	We're on Rumble now only?
	Good to go, yeah.
	Okay, so here's the thing.
	If you look back at 2020, right, you got to look at...
	Because my thing is I'm real big on identifying who is who.
	This whole thing of deep state and globalists and all this other shit...
	Okay, what I'm gonna say doesn't represent the views of anyone here at the table.
	It just represents me and Iron Gaines, okay?
	Just say fucking Jews, man, because this is what it is.
	You look at who ran Facebook, obviously Mark Zuckerberg, Jew, right?
	Zionist Jew.
	Who ran Instagram?
	Adam Massari, Zionist Jew.
	Who ran YouTube at the time?
	Susan Wajowski, Zionist Jew.
	Who's her sister?
	The owner of 23andMe.
	Who founded Google?
	Sergey Brin, Zionist Jew, right?
	Then, you go and you look at who ran the CDC at the time?
	Rochelle Walensky, Zionist Jew.
	Then you look at who ran Pfizer, Albert Burla, Zionist Jew.
	So you're telling me that all of these platforms, which were super pro censorship in 2020, by the way, that pushed out a certain narrative about the vaccine and go ahead and take the vaccine, which would push you to take the vaccine and make them a bunch of money with these companies, whether it's Johnson and Johnson and and Pfizer, et cetera. whether it's Johnson and Johnson and and Pfizer, et cetera.
	They're all run by Zionist Jews.
	So not only are they controlling the vaccines, they're controlling the mandates that get the vaccines out there.
	And then they're also controlling the information about the vaccines.
	And they're only pushing you towards information that is pro vaccine.
	This is why people like RFK, people that were dissenters, got heavily censored and or were attacked.
	This is why Joe Rogan went ahead and got attacked.
	And they put that clip of him saying nigger, nigger, nigger a million times.
	They went ahead and went after RFK. They went after anyone that talked about the vaccine.
	They banned you in 2020 if you mention anything about the vaccine on YouTube.
	And anything that was put out that was anti-vax was immediately censored.
	And Zuckerberg was a part of this fucking thing.
	I think now he's coming forward and saying, Oh, well, you know, we kind of fucked up, blah, blah, blah.
	We were pressured.
	But at the end of the day, he admits it.
	The buck stops with them.
	And what did they choose to do?
	They chose to censor a lot of the censors.
	And here's the thing.
	They know, deep down, there's a lot of people that are going to fucking die from this stupidest vaccine.
	And he's kind of getting ahead of the curve and being like, look, man, the government pressured us.
	You know, we didn't take down everything.
	We took down some of the stuff, etc.
	Because people are fucking waking up and realizing that...
	They weren't told everything that they needed to be told about the vaccine.
	And imagine how many people try to put information out there about the vaccine being dangerous or causing issues, but they had their voices stifled or stopped.
	Thanks to Susan Wajowski.
	Thanks to fucking Mark Zuckerberg.
	Thanks to fucking Adam Massari.
	Thanks to Rachel Walensky that put out this stupid CDC shit where They're six feet apart.
	Get the vaccine.
	You better get it.
	They pushed all this fucking propaganda for years.
	Locked us up in our houses.
	Forced us to take a stupid ass vaccine.
	Some people lost their jobs because they didn't want to take it, etc.
	But now we're realizing it doesn't matter anymore.
	Do you see anybody wearing masks or doing the six foot separation bullshit?
	No.
	But who ran all the bullshit?
	We gotta call it what the fuck it is.
	Zionist Jews were behind the whole fucking lockdown.
	They were behind the vaccine pushes and they were behind the fucking censorship that kept it going.
	So, look, man.
	I'm just gonna call a spade a spade again.
	My views don't represent everyone else here, but, you know, when you actually look and see who the fuck was in charge of a lot of this stuff, it all comes back to the same fucking people, man.
	So, fuck that shit.
	We'll go back to YouTube.
	No.
	No?
	You didn't take one?
	Not one Vax?
	All those names, guys.
	You'll see what I'm talking about.
	Look, however...
	Go back to YouTube.
	Okay, sorry.
	No, no, you're good.
	We're going to go back to YouTube now.
	Can I even...
	Oh, we're going to talk about them boys some more?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Go back to Rumble.
	We're going to go back to Rumble.
	Okay, back to Rumble.
	So, look, look.
	Look, however over-represented Jews are in terms of CEO positions with big tech companies, I still think it's fair to say there's a deep state, which really isn't just...
	You can't really just say it's Zionist Jews.
	It's not just, no.
	But a lot of them are.
	Well...
	The Pearls, the Bill Crystals, the Wolfowitz, all these guys.
	Yeah, yeah, look, Zionism is 100% part of it.
	Henry Kissinger.
	Like, all these people were deep state guys, all fucking Zionist Jews.
	Yeah, yeah, but listen, Zionism is definitely part of the deep state agenda, there's no doubt about that, but what we're talking about when we're talking about a deep state is a parallel kind of form of government that's forming after the Cold War, where, okay, we have our Constitution, we have our regular democracy, But then we have the Dolez brothers creating all these kinds of extra-legal apparatuses and institutions.
	We have the OSS, the CIA, we have the military-industrial complex, and we have a military deep state for military intelligence and technology.
	And it's like, you go at these really deep levels, and Zionism is just like one of the arms of it, you know?
	And when it comes to what we're talking about, with the rise of Silicon Valley big tech companies potentially opening the space for a new form of political sovereignty, you have to think about...
	When the Cold War was being waged and we had all this shadow government, basically, that was created to fight communism, to what extent has that actually just become the real government?
	And the one that we see on TV is just a spectacle, and it's just a show, right?
	And also, Big Pharma is 100% also part of it.
	All the monopoly capital corporate companies, but is Big Pharma controlled by Zionists?
	Yeah, I mean, Albert Burrell is a Jew.
	Zionist Jew.
	Who's that?
	He's the head of Pfizer.
	He's the CEO? He's the CEO. And then you look at BlackRock, Larry Fink, Zionist Jew.
	It's like every single time.
	Again, I'm not saying it's only them.
	Of course not.
	There's other people involved, too.
	Make no mistake about it.
	Most Zionists are Christians.
	But it's interesting to me how everywhere you look, when there's some bullshit going on, whether it's censorship or misinformation or whatever, they're saying, no, this and that.
	It's always a fucking Zionist Jew.
	Almost always.
	It's fucking crazy.
	Well, I mean, I think the agenda of Big Pharma, though, was definitely...
	I don't know about you.
	I mean, I'm open to different theories, but I really think it was about them turning profit.
	You know, I think it was for financial gain.
	The whole vax thing and, you know, rushing the FDA regulations.
	Absolutely.
	And I think that's a whole machine.
	It's not just Pfizer.
	It's a lot of...
	Well, yeah, that's what I was trying to explain.
	Like, you got...
	Okay, so there's different parts of it, right?
	You got the social media platforms that the information goes through.
	Controlling the information.
	But they're controlling the flow of information.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Dude, I remember vividly in 2020, if you said anything that was anti-vax, you were banned.
	Or they were going to put a banner under your video saying that this is misinformation.
	Yeah.
	Then, you look at who the head of the CDC was that was pushing all this bullshit out about six feet distance, all this other stuff, Fauci, and whatever.
	But it was Rochelle Walensky who ran the CDC in 2020.
	Zionist Jew.
	Can you even talk about the vax now on YouTube?
	You can now, but it was really bad in 2020.
	It was bad.
	I remember they would just strike you.
	They would strike you just for saying the word vaccine.
	Yeah, you couldn't even say the term.
	We had to use beer bug.
	I remember using Corona.
	The jabby stabby.
	The jabby stabby and shit.
	People are still, to this day, still worried about it.
	So when you look at every cornerstone of this whole vaccine and COVID mandate, whether it was the social media information coming in, the people that are pushing the vaccine, or the people producing the vaccine when it comes to the pharmaceutical companies, all run by Jews.
	All of them.
	It's crazy, dude.
	I have to look into that myself.
	They're not the only ones.
	I haven't studied it myself, so I can't.
	And then Google, the main platform, which you would run a lot of this stuff and ask questions about, who was the founder of that?
	A dude, a Russian Jew.
	Yeah, a lot of the Russian immigration for Silicon Valley came because of the chip technology that they developed in the Soviet Union.
	What they basically did when it collapsed is they took all the expertise, all the best mathematics, not necessarily chip technology, the best statisticians and mathematicians and engineers and stuff, and they basically took all that skills and resources and got into big tech here, and it was technology from the Soviet Union.
	I did a deep dive on all this, and it's like, it's just when you look and you're like, what the fuck?
	Like, it's almost funny.
	It's like every single time, you know what I mean?
	I go, I'm like, I looked at name, I'm like, okay, Wikipedia, early life, boom.
	Every time, bro.
	It's like, it's like a game now at this point.
	But do you ever think, though, that if these faces are so easily accessible, you know, are they really the ones ultimately in power?
	You know, if you really so readily, you know, easily know who they are...
	No, you gotta deep dive to find them.
	I feel like, for example, Eric Prince, he's not a Jew, is he?
	Or I don't know.
	Let me look him up.
	Yeah.
	Let's look it up.
	We'll have fun.
	I get what you're saying, because the people that are actually pulling the strings...
	He's like, that guy's not really that high profile, but he's like...
	You're not gonna see them in the public eye.
	You're not gonna see them like...
	That's what I'm saying.
	You can't find them online by doing some searches.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	They're like behind the scenes pulling the strings you would never even know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're in a castle somewhere in Transylvania.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Offshore bank accounts.
	Something like that, bro.
	I mean, I don't even think CEOs are the people who are in power.
	A CEO is a salaried position.
	That's a figurehead, you know?
	I just think at some level, yeah, there's a coincidence where, like, there's a bunch of people that are starting race or certain, I want to say, ideology that are heading these companies.
	But the point here is that, like, you're in their house.
	They have some rules, you don't follow the rules of their current timing, then you're fucked.
	But, at the same time, censoring elections on purpose, now you're pushing the whole country in the same direction.
	I think people underestimate that it's like...
	The people that are in power, and they've done studies on this, and, you know, these are the same ruling aristocratic families that were in power like 500 years ago in Europe.
	Like as the nobles and the aristocrats and the lords and the royal whatever bloodlines.
	They haven't changed.
	The royal families from Europe and the noble families, the esteemed lineages, they're still the ones that are in power now, you know, and They've maintained their family pedigrees, again, originating from European, Anglo-American aristocracies, and they're just not that public.
	They're not celebrities.
	Of course, yeah, they're always behind the scenes.
	You've got to do digging to find these people.
	Jews, even since the Rothschilds, tended to be high profile.
	They tended to be celebrities.
	Why?
	Because it was unusual for Jews to rise to the ranks and become new money and build it from scratch, compared to the older money, the aristocratic money, which it's part of the aristocratic MO that you're not in public, you're not acting as a celebrity, talking to the masses and stuff like that.
	So I just think it's always important to keep in mind that dynamic, that there's an unseen, hidden...
	Yeah, they are hidden, and that's 100%.
	You look at the NBA, right?
	Obviously no one gives a fuck about who runs the NBA, they just want to watch the players, but who runs the NBA? It's like 15 of the teams are owned by Jews, right?
	The head of the NBA, Stern, Jew.
	Before him was David Stern, and then the guy now is definitely a Jew.
	What's his name?
	Adam Silver.
	Adam Silver, yeah.
	He's a Jew, and then before it was David Stern.
	So, like, you know, and then you look at the music industry.
	So, no one gives a fuck about the people that own the record labels, etc.
	They care about whatever.
	But then you look at Diddy's, like, mentors.
	Who is it?
	Clive Davis.
	Jew.
	Then you look at, like, entertainment, right?
	No one cares about the owners of YouTube or who runs YouTube.
	They care about PewDiePie and these big people.
	Yeah.
	But if you look at who ran YouTube from 2014 all the way to 2023, Wajowski.
	You know, Susan Wajowski.
	Yeah, no, I'm not.
	I don't know.
	So it's like they're always in the back.
	Like, if you do a little bit of research, you'll find out who they are.
	But I'm saying, even if you go deeper than that, though, these guys seem like lower-level hucksters compared to the real power, which is like, where does the finances come from to prop the entertainment industry up?
	Well, the head of trust and safety that actually bans people at YouTube is a Jew, too.
	I mean, where does the finance go to kind of allocate the loans and the credit to build these in the first place?
	Old money.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Old, old money.
	And who are the bankers?
	Well, we disagree on the...
	Jewish bankers, man!
	Probably disagree on the percentages.
	Yeah, like...
	Look, look, I'll definitely say the Rothschilds are 100% part of it.
	Like, there are Jews that are 100% part of the ruling class.
	100,000%.
	It's just I don't agree that they're the majority.
	I don't agree that they're...
	I have a question.
	Pointing out who's behind the...
	No, hold on, hold on.
	This is very important.
	Pointing out who's behind the scenes pulling strings, what does that do?
	Someone please tell me.
	What does that do?
	Um, I guess it just...
	Oh, then I make you a target.
	No, 100%.
	I get fucked up.
	100%.
	What does that do for the public?
	Yeah.
	Well, a lot of people probably didn't know that just now.
	And now they know who was behind the COVID thing.
	What are they going to do with it?
	What are they going to do with it?
	Education is an important problem.
	To do what?
	Snickerfresh, man.
	I'm not going to have this discussion with you, bro.
	I'm just saying...
	She's always like, bro, why are you just going to name them?
	There's no point calling out people...
	Alright, we'll go back to YouTube then.
	You cannot defeat...
	So, first, you feel safe.
	Let's just go back to YouTube.
	Go home!
	Am I correct here or no?
	I'm just drinking my coffee listening to this convo.
	Bro, I'm the only one on common sense here.
	I'll fucking name him, bro.
	Because most people don't even know this shit, so I was like, yo, who ran the country at this time and pushed the COVID vaccine and pushed the mandate?
	Let's fucking name these assholes.
	I just gave you all the names.
	Listen, man, I'm your friend, bro.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Hey, man.
	I can't about you, bro.
	That's fine.
	Anything else before we go back to YouTube on Jews?
	No, we can go to YouTube.
	I'll just say that.
	I think understanding the power structure and its historical origins is very important.
	It does give you the ability, at least...
	To have a step one to think about, like, how could this even possibly be defeated, you know, or even changed in any kind of way?
	Just knowing how it works.
	And from my studies, from what I've studied about it, it's like, it's very, very old.
	It's very old.
	I mean, we're talking like...
	Adam Weinshop, way back then.
	Even way earlier than that, man.
	It's like the Renaissance, at least, you know?
	Renaissance Italy, like hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
	Andrew, I'm curious to hear your opinion, though.
	About what?
	About all this people talk.
	We're on YouTube, man.
	We're back on YouTube.
	It's fine.
	Anyway, so, where are we at here?
	You know what, Myron?
	We should debate ourselves about this topic.
	I think the audience would love that.
	What do you think?
	Me and the debate, the society itself, and who runs the world, and what you should do about it.
	Bro, you know the answer to that, man.
	I don't know, but what should we do as a community to stop this?
	Bro, the people are learning, man.
	That's what matters.
	The people know.
	And more people are waking up.
	They're learning what's going to happen to you.
	That's a good idea, though.
	Hey, man.
	If I die in the process, I die in the process.
	What?
	Okay, so what do we got up next?
	Oh, Telegram.
	Pavlov, right?
	Yes.
	So recently, the CEO has been abducted by the French president, and a twist of events happened where he was called to be at dinner with the president of France, but all of a sudden, magically, he gets to the airport on the plane and is greeted by who?
	The police of France.
	Let's get to the article.
	All right.
	So, and actually, he was with a girl, which I'll talk about this, too, because I do think that this girl had a place in him getting jammed up.
	Well, you know, typical shit.
	Well, we'll cover it next.
	But Pavlov Durov said that he was lured to France by President Macron, which we all know about his wife.
	There's some questions there.
	It turns out that the French president invited Derov to dine together.
	Pavlov told about this during interrogation by the police.
	The French newspaper Le Canard Did I pronounce that right?
	Canard Cheyenne claims.
	But instead of lunch, Derov was met in France by local police.
	Macron did not officially confirm this, but local politician Florian Philippot said that this was quite in the spirit of the French...
	President.
	President.
	Remy Lind, 2023.
	I gotta get my glasses.
	So, just off of that piece alone, Isn't that almost like a perfect setup?
	The president of a country says to you, let's meet for dinner.
	Let's meet for Noble, nigga.
	Discuss some things about, you know, the current society, maybe even your platform, maybe working together on some different basis.
	You're like, you know what?
	All right.
	This is the president of a country.
	He got my back.
	He's my boy.
	I'm going to go meet him real quick for some dinner.
	Talk some business.
	But before you know it, though...
	You're caught up in a storm of police and arrest.
	Well, what's really interesting about this, especially with Durov, is he's not being charged for doing these crimes himself.
	They're not saying, you did embezzlement, and you did...
	What is the list of crimes?
	Terrorism, cyberbullying, huge laundry list of crimes.
	They're not accusing him of doing any of that.
	They're just saying that there's people who are on the technology he invented who are doing that.
	As though somehow he's responsible for that.
	This is the same type of argument that gun control advocates often use when somebody goes and uses an AR-15 in a nefarious way.
	And suddenly, they're going and saying, oh, the gun manufacturer needs to be held responsible and sued into oblivion and this type of thing because their technology is being used.
	This is bullshit.
	The fact that the French kind of brought this guy in under false pretenses and then arrested him on charges which had nothing to directly do with him.
	They're not charging him with any of this.
	They're just saying...
	This stuff happens on your platform.
	So what?
	So fucking what?
	And it's designed, in fact, to be encrypted so that people's communications are not...
	I mean, that's what the whole idea of Telegram is, is the encryption.
	So this is used by governments.
	It's used by all sorts of different people.
	And the trans-mafia...
	When the trans mafia was all over Telegram organizing to take down various content creators and take down various people who upset them, and when Black Lives Matter is using this technology, when actual terrorists or leftist terrorists are using this technology, nobody gives a shit.
	Now it's good technology.
	But if right-wingers are organizing on it, and I guarantee you that's what the laundry list of charges are going to show, so right-wingers are getting together and saying, well, we don't like the Muslims in the UK anymore, right?
	But when the trans mafia uses it, they organize for their nefarious shit, that's fine, right?
	So, yeah, it's totally bullshit.
	Actually, what I've heard is that, and don't quote me on this because I'm not absolutely certain about it, it's just something I've heard, is that Telegram was actually being used very prominently in Russian military operations in Ukraine.
	So that if they actually have access to Telegram and they're able to affect it or shut it down or something, that could actually severely affect the war in Ukraine, actually, and Russia's military efforts.
	And that, to me, makes the most sense as far as what the motivation behind something like this would be, you know?
	Andrew, you have a good point.
	Just real quick, just after your point.
	You mentioned he was being charged for things he didn't do on his platform, right?
	Yeah.
	Imagine if he made that into America.
	Mark Zuckerberg?
	All these people would still be trying for the same thing he's been trying for.
	So I was going to say something about that.
	RFK talked about this with his interviewer, Tucker, literally yesterday, which we'll talk about RFK here in a second.
	They get protection.
	And that's why they cooperate.
	But just so you guys know, by the way, this is actually very important.
	The reason why these pussy-ass social media platforms cooperate so heavily with the government is because they get a certain protection where if you publish something on their platform that breaks the law or anything else like that, they're not liable and they can't be charged or sued, right?
	And it's the same protection that a lot of these...
	Newspapers enjoy as well, like the New York Post, whatever it may be, where you can't sue them for publishing certain stuff.
	So social media platforms get this.
	That's why they cooperate so much with the government, because they don't want to lose protection and be held liable or held criminally liable for anything that someone on their platform publishes.
	So that's able to protect themselves.
	But here's the thing.
	Foreign governments, they don't have to adhere to that.
	So the thing is, why is it then, if he's being charged for all of these things because the organization on Telegram, when Mark Zuckerberg goes out to France, they're going to arrest him?
	Are they going to arrest Elon Musk when he goes out to free?
	Or are they only going to arrest this guy?
	It's totally clear.
	Isn't that convenient?
	It's because they've been to the whim of these foreign governments.
	Zuckerberg is a cuck when it comes to that.
	Also, real quick, encryption itself, the method of encryption is bullshit.
	I'm in tech.
	That's just outdated, bro.
	That's just so old, bro.
	And it's funny because people think you're a state behind WhatsApp and Telegram.
	No, you're not.
	Well, WhatsApp, no, because that's on my Facebook.
	But even Telegram.
	And they can see all your shit.
	No one's safe, bro.
	So, oh yeah, I'm safe by Telegram.
	Nigga, no you're not!
	No one's safe.
	And all your communications, right?
	Even on Twitter.
	Like, if you're DMing people, they're reading your DMs.
	You go on Wi-Fi, you go on, you're plugging a cable that's not even, like, safe, you can get your shit snapped like this.
	So is that just through your device, or is it through the data itself that's being transmitted on Telegram?
	Dude, they have technology right now.
	I can encrypt anything, bro.
	Dude, no one's safe, bro.
	So you're...
	Oh, I'm going to be saved by telegram.
	No, you're not.
	It's all a farce, bro.
	Well, what I was going to say is that it is significantly harder to get in, though.
	I'll tell you this from being in law enforcement.
	Encrypted programs are much harder to get if you don't have the actual device.
	You need to have the actual device to see the conversation.
	It's very difficult to actually monitor it without going through the actual device.
	Maybe there's a way to get remote.
	Whenever they lock you up, guess what they got?
	Your device.
	Well, yeah, of course, of course.
	And also, there's got to be ways, 100% they have ways to remotely access your device, you know, without necessarily directly going to Telegram without it.
	You know what's surprising?
	Yeah.
	iPhone actually does a very good job of protecting, I swear to God.
	From what I've heard about what the CIA was capable of 15 years ago, There's no doubt in my mind.
	Well, there was a huge lawsuit.
	Like, okay, so when I was on the job, this was actually something...
	This is a big reason why the FBI doesn't use iPhones.
	Apple would not cooperate with them with giving them access to phones.
	But you think CIA is a whole different ballpark?
	No, they all use the same technology.
	Really?
	They're all using Sal Brights, which is, you know, the main thing to use to extract phones.
	So, there might be technology out now, but what I will say is that, like, compared to the other phone brands, surprisingly, I'm fucking shocked and amazed to say this, Apple is actually one of the ones that, like, it's very difficult to hack.
	Blackberry supposedly used to have...
	Blackberries are very secure.
	People still use Blackberries.
	Compared to other phones, guys.
	Back in the day.
	So, but, you know, I was going to say, there's no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this is not France doing this.
	This is 100% coordinated by, you know, the U.S. Absolutely, the U.S. The U.S. is 100%.
	What was the practical applications of Telegram being the battlefield, though, of Russia?
	What was the details there, Haas?
	I don't exactly remember.
	I just remember hearing that from a trusted source, and, you know, that clicked to me, and it made sense.
	So here are the charges, it looks like.
	12 charges.
	12 charges against Telegram CEO Pavel Derov, including providing cryptology services aiming to ensure confidentiality without certified declaration and six counts of complicity with alleged criminal activity by Telegram users.
	That's crazy.
	So we'll pull this up real quick.
	And let's mention a girl out there.
	So, complicity, webmastering an online platform in order to enable an illegal transaction or organized group.
	Refusal to communicate at the request of competent authorities information or documents necessary for carrying on operating interceptions allowed by law.
	Complicity, possessing pornographic images of minors.
	Complicity, distributing, offering, or making available pornographic images of minors in organized groups.
	Complicity, acquiring, transporting, possessing, offering, or selling narcotic substances.
	Complicity offering selling or making available without legitimate reason, equipment tools, programs, or data designed for or adapted to get access to and damage the operation of automated data processing system.
	Complicity organized fraud.
	Criminal association with a view to committing a crime of an offense, a punchable by five or more years of imprisonment.
	Laundering of the proceeds derived from the organized group's offenses and crimes.
	Providing cryptology services aimed to ensure confidential without certified declaration.
	Providing a cryptology tool not solely to ensuring authenticity or integrity.
	without our declaration and And then lastly here, importing a cryptology tool, ensuring authentication or integrity, monitoring without prior declaration.
	So guys, I mean basically, hey, all this shit that happens on your platform, we're hitting you with it.
	So let me...
	Telegram has no rules, right?
	Do they enforce anything?
	Yeah, they have rules.
	They can get your group shut down.
	They shut them down all the time.
	They have rules for...
	Because Telegram's not just...
	It's become more of a social media platform.
	Because how it works is that if you're a social media platform, you can actually be criminally liable for illegal things being done using your platform, right?
	Or...
	Well, it depends.
	I believe that there's two ways that this can be done.
	One is you have immunity based on some criteria, or you don't have immunity based on other criteria.
	But I'm not sure how it works.
	Like, do they have a duty to actually enforce...
	Content moderation.
	To your point, though...
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	I think that this depends on where you're at.
	So this is why I think what'll happen...
	I think ultimately what's going to happen is these tech leaders, Silicon Valley leaders, people who have new technologies, start getting arrested in foreign nations because they can't possibly comply with all these global laws and regulations from each and every country on planet Earth.
	I think there's going to end up being a universal Bill of Rights when it comes...
	And this is why Rumble shut down in France.
	This is where it's getting, right?
	It's getting to a point where other countries don't observe freedom of speech like we do.
	We're very fortunate to have the First Amendment here in the United States, but in Eastern Europe, especially these former colonial powers, it's kind of funny.
	They're pussified now.
	They're pussified.
	They're run by weak leaders that don't necessarily recognize free speech, etc.
	For them, they look at it like, okay, these American companies that facilitate free speech, we need to somehow monitor these people.
	Now, Instagram, Facebook, etc., they're probably bending the knee all the time, giving them whatever they want, whatever it is, right?
	That's why I think WhatsApp now is compromised because Facebook runs it and they've given their information, right?
	They're not necessarily an encryption service to the same degree as Telegram, which is a big reason why Telegram is so popular.
	It's precisely because WhatsApp used to be the one that everyone used, but now everyone uses Telegram and Signal.
	So, I think we're going to see more of this where...
	If you operate in these countries and you don't cooperate with that country with what they want, because you can see there, not cooperating, etc., you're going to go to jail.
	So people like Chris Pawlowski, etc., they're like, you know what?
	We're not going to comply with your authoritarian commands.
	We're just going to shut down in your fucking country.
	And that's what he did.
	He shut down in Brazil, France, etc.
	What do you think about the ideas which has floated around a lot now about a universal Bill of Rights with tech?
	That there are universal rules which have to be adhered to globally so that countries can't make these individualistic laws.
	It's not a bad idea.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it would ever work.
	Well, they're trying to promote it as being a basic human right.
	They're saying you have a human right to this technology.
	It's hopeful, but it's too far gone.
	I think what we're seeing is selective punishment.
	Well, the United States would have to spearhead it and be really aggressive on people joining in, like a little NATO. Or Europe, yeah.
	But this is what's being floated around that I've seen as being a possible safeguard to this idea that if you create...
	Because the big thing is, if these alternative technologies are going to continue to exist, they're going to accelerate.
	People are going to begin making more and more and more of them.
	And your risk of not being able to utilize these technologies because the people who invent them might go to jail based on your local government entrapping them like this.
	This will become more prominent.
	You're going to have to have some kind of offset.
	And so this is what I see floating around as the potential offset to it.
	Do I think it will happen?
	Absolutely not.
	But I did want to get your take on what you thought about it.
	I think it would be a good idea to protect some of these guys because it's crazy that they're holding them liable for the actions of people that use their platform.
	Like, there needs to be some semblance of protection for them offering people the ability to speak freely.
	I guarantee you the reason, though, why they went after him is because they probably sent some demands.
	Hey, we need access because XYZ. We need to be able to, you know, intercept stuff like that.
	And he probably told them to fuck off.
	And that's what it is.
	Because I'll tell you guys this from my personal experience working in law enforcement.
	Facebook, Meta in general, and all these social media platforms, they have what's called law enforcement portals.
	So you're able to go and contact them directly.
	They have a whole team that just deals with law enforcement, where you contact them and say, hey, I need a subpoena on XYZ account, whatever, and they will go ahead and make it available to you pretty freely if you have court documents, whether it's a search warrant, a subpoena, whatever it may be.
	What I'm thinking with Telegram is, more than likely is, They weren't cooperative with the French government on maybe some investigations.
	And they're like, you know what?
	Fuck that.
	We need to get this guy in jail.
	So you're not thinking more conspiratorially that there's anything...
	I mean, that is a conspiracy.
	Well, I mean, but...
	That is a conspiracy.
	This isn't something more, like, in terms of, like, you know, the U.S. coordinating with NATO. Like, this is some...
	I wouldn't be surprised if the United States wasn't annoyed with it and had also dealt with this, too.
	Here's oftentimes how it works is that...
	You're right.
	We have...
	The First Amendment, which was written a long time ago, so it's a huge inconvenience for the people who rule us here in the United States.
	So what they end up doing is to target American citizens.
	This actually happened to my boy Jackson.
	I haven't seen this guy as America.
	Can we pull him up real quick?
	I think he's Russian if I'm not mistaken.
	They'll target you in foreign countries.
	They'll put you on the Ukraine kill list.
	They can't kill you here.
	They'll arrest you in Europe for violating their speech laws or something.
	They'll hire Colombian mercenaries like they did against Jackson to hunt you down in Venezuela.
	Yeah, they try to kill them in Venezuela.
	Right, right, right.
	So this is the game that they play.
	They're using their puppet governments abroad to do what they don't have the legal ability to do here.
	To me, social media is a form of sovereignty.
	And people critique China's censorship system and stuff, that they only allow their own social media companies to have a foothold there.
	But it's like, if you want to be a sovereign government that's independent...
	I think that social media companies should actually just be treated as an extension of the state's sovereignty, honestly.
	Europe doesn't have its own social media.
	India doesn't.
	A lot of countries don't.
	They're totally dependent on U.S. big tech.
	And Telegram...
	How would that work, though, for the adoption of these technologies?
	What do you mean?
	Well, because people own them.
	People have ownership of these technologies.
	You mean that they're patented?
	Yeah, wouldn't you essentially have to steal these technologies in order to do that?
	Well, it depends on how much you care about intellectual property.
	I personally don't care about it.
	Yeah, so just steal their tech and adopt it for your state?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I was saying like...
	Communists in ownership.
	Yeah, intellectual property.
	Anyway...
	The government owns this now.
	It's not yours.
	Yeah, but Telegram, I think that...
	Was that actually a Russian company that's in Russia?
	Yeah, it is Russian.
	It's Russian.
	It's a Russian company.
	Yeah.
	This is pretty simple, though.
	He didn't bend the knee.
	He didn't bend the knee to the government, and as a result, he was put on the selective punishment list.
	And granted, every company that has these type of, like, I want to say...
	Appeals you can get, for example, you can post, you can say whatever you want.
	There's a line that if you cross, you're gonna be peeing lies.
	But as a result of him not bending the knee, he's what?
	A target.
	That's all it really is, bro.
	Yeah, I think what it was is you just basically didn't give certain governments what they wanted.
	What they wanted.
	Okay, so let's see here.
	It was August 2013.
	So since 2013, it was founded in 2013 by Nikolai and Pavlov.
	Oh, it's in the UAE. Okay.
	Okay, talking about the most popular instant messaging application in parts of Europe, Asia, and Africa.
	As of 2024, registration of Telegram requires a smartphone and or a limited number of NFTs issued in December.
	As of July, it had 950 million monthly active users, with India leading in a number of users.
	Let's see here.
	Where's it, like, based out of?
	Is it, oh, headquartered in, okay, Tortola, British Virgin Island.
	That's legal domicile.
	Oh, yeah, that's clever.
	And then Dubai, United Arab Emirates.
	Texas.
	Bombokka!
	Tax, man.
	And then, obviously, he lives in Dubai.
	Yo, what about the shorty that he was with, though?
	We can go to her real quick.
	I actually posted about this.
	You know, if you go down, I don't know if it was going to say.
	This doesn't actually tell us if it's connected to the Russian government.
	Let me see.
	Is it St.
	Petersburg?
	I don't think it is, bro.
	You don't think it is?
	I think because Putin wanted to get control of it, and he didn't want to do it either.
	Click his name.
	I heard something like that.
	I think he owns a couple of...
	Pavlov Durov.
	Click his name right there.
	He's very independent.
	Here he is.
	He's a Russian business executive, entrepreneur, investor.
	What citizenship is he?
	Okay, so he was born in the Soviet Union in 84.
	Let's see here.
	So citizenship.
	He has Soviet Union, Russia...
	St.
	Kitts in Nevis.
	He paid for that one for sure.
	He has a UAE one in France.
	Well, he's worth $11.5 billion.
	Oh, he's a French citizen.
	I didn't know that.
	When he has that kind of money, boy, you want to...
	Damn!
	Yeah, $11.5 billion.
	Legally, avoid taxes.
	Legally.
	No, a net worth of $15.5 billion.
	So, I'm sure somebody's hand is going to get grease for him to walk out of France.
	Yeah.
	I wonder how much passports he has.
	He's got three or four just off that alone.
	He's smart, man.
	I'm not surprised, though.
	Europeans typically hold one or two different citizenships.
	Yeah, it's common.
	It's actually very common, and they all speak different languages, too.
	The whole concept of only speaking one language, guys, to be honest with you, is like an American thing.
	Like, you're looked at as an idiot everywhere else in the world if you only know one language.
	It's only in America where we're like, English only!
	Can we go to...
	Our friend of honor.
	Yeah, let's go.
	We're going to cover the girl that he was with, because I think this is important and should be noted, too.
	I noticed that this and it wasn't really covered too much.
	The woman that he was traveling with, this chick, right?
	During his trips to Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Azerbaijan, Pavel Derov was accompanied by a 24-year-old crypto coach, LOL, and streamer Yulia Vavilova, who resides in Dubai, and was also with him at the time of his arrest in Florida.
	Up until August 24, she had been actively posting photos on social media from Derov's private jet and various locations where he was present.
	Um...
	You know, I commented on this.
	Scroll down.
	Does this show my thing?
	My comment?
	Dude, I gotta know, though.
	She got asked or no?
	We got her Instagram up, I think.
	What do you think, bro?
	She got asked or no?
	I mean, I gotta be, you know, family friendly.
	But the answer is no, okay?
	Bro, you got no ass, my nigga.
	That's an L, bro.
	Just saying.
	Look, so I'll just keep it at the house with y'all, bro.
	No booty.
	When you're in Dubai, you're in the UAE, and you see girls from Eastern Europe there, you should definitely raise an eyebrow, because a lot of times they're working girls, if you guys know what I'm saying.
	That's the one thing I didn't like about the UAE when I was there.
	I went there twice.
	They're all prostitutes.
	The majority of them, bro, I kid you not.
	It's fucking crazy.
	So we're in the Jumeirah Palm area?
	Terrible.
	Bro, we walked in there, right?
	I'm like, okay, there's some baddies in here.
	Bro, you go talk to them?
	Yeah, Papi, so, um, how much do you want?
	Well, they don't say Papi.
	That's Columbia.
	Well, tell them we're there from Columbia.
	No, no, no.
	Remember there were two, come by the bar.
	Remember with Sterling?
	They're from Columbia.
	And someone from Miami, too.
	The point is, you go to that hotel, whatever, bro, they're working actively every single day.
	I suggest for anyone, if you're gonna go to Dubai, don't stay in the Palm area, Palm Jumeirah, because that's where all the working girls are, and if you want a paper box, that's cool, but I hate that shit.
	Oh, you're talking about that Palm Island?
	Yeah, because all the hotels and stuff are there, and that's kind of where...
	Is that the man-made thing?
	Yes.
	No.
	Well, they do have a man-made for residential, but there was also the area where the tourists are where all the hotels are at.
	So the story here is that she sold him out, or what happened?
	I think.
	They haven't said that openly, but she was traveling everywhere with him and is like a typical bimbo.
	She's like taking pictures and video everywhere.
	Was he actually a fugitive that was on the run?
	I don't think he knew that he was under indictment.
	He got tricked.
	He was told to come to dinner.
	And I can understand you, they were tracking her phone the whole time.
	I thought he did know that he had a warrant.
	Thought I had read that he did know that he had a warrant.
	No way.
	And they told him to come anyway, so it would be no big deal.
	The president of that country is telling you to come.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's a given.
	Yeah, you try to deny it, but regardless, this is what I'll say.
	I'm confident that they were tracking that girl's telephone and or social media because she was posting everywhere and she was with him.
	I have a question.
	If you're a billionaire of that status, should your girl be recording where you're at?
	At all times?
	Like that?
	Posting on social media?
	Nope.
	Should a good girl be posting your location if you're that status of a billionaire?
	I mean, it's a violation of privacy.
	You know, compromises the privacy.
	Is that his girl?
	Is that his girl?
	Is that just some fucking chick he's following?
	It might be his girl.
	I don't know.
	But the thing is, if it's his girlfriend, I don't know what his rules are with that.
	Well, look, if he didn't know he was a fugitive and he was being hunted or whatever, he didn't care.
	You know, why would he care?
	Yeah, that's true.
	I mean, still, probably if you have that kind of notoriety and net worth, you probably don't want people to know where you're at.
	Exactly.
	You think that she gave away his location?
	Is that, like, confirmed?
	Well, that's what the speculation...
	Maybe, you know, inadvertently or...
	Wasn't he walking himself into France to meet with the French president?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but I mean, they definitely could have been tracking, well, probably his stuff too, but like, she doesn't make it easy, she doesn't help, you know what I mean?
	This is the same thing that happened with PB Rock, right, when he got killed, grew up hosting where they were at and shit.
	So it's like, or maybe he didn't know.
	Because sometimes they'll sneak in to take a photo here, a photo here.
	But still, that's kind of messed up, though.
	Yeah, girls gotta always document where their eyebrows are.
	Yeah, I'm not sure that she didn't.
	I mean, Haas makes a really compelling case here, right?
	Which is, the president called him and he flew in.
	I don't know why she was necessary, right?
	Yeah.
	She probably wasn't necessary.
	Remember they're checking where he was at before?
	Because they knew where he was at.
	They were saying all these places that he was at, but...
	Either way, he was tricked.
	Yeah.
	I got arrested.
	But my question is, is he going to be released, you think, or no?
	Yes.
	You think so?
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	Yep.
	You think so?
	Um, I have no idea.
	I mean, I don't know what they want from him.
	If the condition of his release...
	Those look like pretty serious charges.
	I think if he does get released, they're going to take his passport away.
	Yeah.
	Or passports.
	So that I agree with.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but if the French government, if the Macronian government can put him out on a $500 million bail, they will.
	You know what I think?
	They're going to tell him to, hey, do X, Y, Z. If not, you're staying in jail.
	Does he still retain control of the company still?
	He probably, at this point, when you're that high up, bro, you've got people running day to day.
	You're just chilling and sitting in ice baths and shit, which is what he does.
	It's a self-running machine.
	It would have been more convenient if the Russian government controlled it that way.
	He could not be used by the French government to...
	French and Russians don't get along like that.
	No, no, I'm saying because now they could tell him, like, okay, you have to make these changes to your platform as a condition of your release and us taking the charges off you.
	You have to change your policies on Telegram.
	That's a fucking problem, man.
	It's a strong possibility, you know.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, it just sucks.
	I mean, this is an attack on free speech.
	I think everybody needs to, like, I actually tweeted this.
	Chris Pawlowski said, like, hey, you know, you gotta boycott France.
	And I'm like, yeah, fuck France.
	Because this is the thing.
	It starts with this, and then it's a slippery slope that just gets worse and worse and worse.
	The question is, is free speech still alive?
	No.
	I think it's dead.
	It's been dead.
	No.
	What do you think, Andrew?
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	Free speech has only ever...
	It's always been limited anyway.
	But now it's worse.
	And it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
	But we've got to fight to preserve it, man.
	It's limited, but free speech was always just a question of how loud you are and who hears you.
	It's always the parameters that have defined your ability to have speech.
	And what we call free speech is the limited extent to which you're confined to a limited audience and a limited ability to have them hear you and what you're allowed to say and so on.
	And every time the line has been crossed, you know, free speech rights meant nothing.
	They've always been thrown out the window.
	Well, you know, your ability to speak freely is 100% contingent upon your audience and your influence.
	Absolutely.
	If you're extremely famous, you can't say certain things.
	Look at what they're doing to Andrew Tate right now.
	See, back in the day...
	He's been arrested for talking about this stuff.
	Cable media used to be very centralized, very heavily controlled, you know?
	So there was no issue of free speech for everyday people or whatever.
	For sure.
	Now we all have the reach that cable media used to have, and that's why the First Amendment, they have to, you know, get rid of it.
	That's why they're going to completely, you know...
	They're gonna throw it aside.
	You look at all the biggest celebrities, right?
	I think what we're saying is that they already have, right?
	Yeah, yeah, they have.
	That's already been done.
	All but in name.
	You know, when they make the step to in name, literally say, no, there's no First Amendment, there's no Constitution.
	That's when things get interesting.
	I mean, when you think of, like, one based A-list celebrity, I can't think of any.
	No.
	No.
	I can't.
	And there's a reason for that.
	Used to be Trump.
	But to be fair, I have a hard time thinking of any.
	He didn't used to be that base, Trump.
	He kept it real, though.
	He would just say what was on his mind.
	Yeah, but I mean, he was kind of a scumbag Democrat, kind of a typical New York, like, New York billionaire Democrat scumbag.
	And then what happened with him was, I mean, that escalator ride really did, when he was just like, man, these Mexicans need to get the fuck out of here, right?
	That was when people were like...
	They really do need to get the fuck out of our country.
	You're right.
	It's 100% correct.
	And then he started to see, well, wait a second, maybe this guy has some much better opinions.
	But, I mean, he didn't always.
	That's for sure.
	Yeah, I mean, you can be based for a period of time and then they'll shut you down to some degree or arrest you or whatever.
	That's just what I've realized, is you can't be...
	This is why you look at someone like The Rock, right?
	Someone on Smackdown, saying all these crazy things, like Smackdown on you, Smackdown Hotel, all this shit, the crazy one-liners.
	Then, he becomes an A-list celebrity with all these movie roles.
	Starts being, like, a fucking, like, he doesn't have views on anything.
	Joe Rogan brought him on.
	Bro, worst interview ever.
	Like, hey, what's your thoughts?
	Isn't it interesting that our government as a country goes around the world preaching free speech and civil liberties and saying, oh, we're an open...
	We need to have open democracies and we need to have the free expression of ideas and all this stuff.
	And then, meanwhile, everything is so tightly controlled that, you know, it...
	Look, this is going to be controversial for me to say.
	I am 100% convinced that this is probably the most, in terms of restricting speech, controlled country in the world.
	In terms of how much is done to limit and control speech on an institutional level.
	I think the UK, bro.
	I think...
	Here's why it's worse in the United States, in my view.
	It's because when the UK clamps down on it, it's like a legal thing.
	You do it overtly, right?
	So it's clear that, okay, this person's speech is being limited because it's illegal, because the government doesn't want them to say this.
	But when...
	We're much more manipulated.
	We are also simultaneously given the illusion that all these celebrities and all the media that we're seeing is actually the free expression of ideas, and that's the content we're getting.
	I see what you mean.
	Like, the censorship is invisible to us.
	It's starting to become more visible.
	It's not in your face.
	But the manipulation is very much like behind the scenes, you know?
	Yeah, and so you mean they have to allocate more resources to it.
	Absolutely.
	And so if you have to allocate more resources to it, then it's more oppressed even in the...
	But I think that that's the wrong way to look at it.
	I understand what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	But it's like saying, well, okay, there you have none.
	Nothing.
	So there's no resources allocated to it because you don't fucking get any.
	And here you get a bowl of gruel.
	But at least people...
	But we're going to give you the illusion that it's a steak.
	It's like, well, there's still gruel, though, right?
	But here's the thing.
	People still at least have the benefit of having a better idea of what's going on, though.
	When you're censoring it overtly, at least I know, okay, this is what's being censored and you're not allowed to say this, right?
	Yeah.
	But here, we don't have that.
	We don't even know exactly what they want people to say and what they're not allowed to say and so on and so on.
	Again, we're starting to have a better idea of this now because of the age of social media and it's a kind of new niche.
	But for a long time, it's not exactly clear how much we're actually being controlled to us.
	There was an invisible line for a while that we didn't know.
	People crossed it and we're seeing the repercussions of what they did.
	We actually don't know.
	Because now that there's social media...
	They have to overtly sometimes draw the censorship lines.
	Versus before, when you had to be on a TV network.
	I remember back in the day, you had to be on TV to be famous.
	But now, you know what's crazy?
	YouTubers are more famous than A-list celebrities.
	A Kai Sanatka will walk down the street and get more attention than an A-list celebrity that's in a movie that's in theaters right fucking now.
	We've never had that before.
	We were chilling with actors in Vegas, right?
	I kid you not.
	I got more people hitting me for photos and likes than these people.
	I'm like, Damn, this is a celebrity.
	Yeah.
	But then again, it's like streamers and YouTubers are bigger than...
	Yeah, but if you look at the biggest streamers and YouTubers, they're bots.
	Let's just be honest here.
	Kai Sanat is never going to talk about real shit.
	Logan Paul is never going to talk about real shit.
	That's an interesting thing.
	They're going to be very botted.
	They're controlled.
	But that's the interesting thing.
	It's like the Wild West.
	Like...
	How much is done to actually make sure that they're in line?
	Sponsorships.
	A lot.
	Money.
	A lot.
	Yeah, like how much is actually necessary.
	But I feel like they could wake up at any moment on the flip of a switch, just go live, and just fucking go crazy.
	And that risk was, I don't think it was as present for any other, like, celebrity before.
	Oh, I see what you mean.
	When the media was centralized, you know, in order to have a big spectacle, you know, you could do something in front of paparazzi or something.
	You could record a video of yourself and send it to journalists.
	But you're not going to be in jail on a movie set.
	Yeah, you're not going to be at the movies or on cable TV doing some crazy shit.
	I see what you mean.
	They'll edit it out.
	I assume the risk is so high.
	So, like, I wonder if they're doing a lot more to keep these people in line.
	I'll tell you what they do.
	Yeah.
	I'll tell you what they do.
	With a lot of these people, and I've noticed this when we interview, and I'm not going to say no names, but they'll have a template of what they're going to talk about.
	They got publicists.
	They got people that tell them what they can and can't say.
	And then the other big thing, too, is that when they have these sponsorships, big ones, right?
	Like a Nike or anything else like that.
	You have to say certain things to stay away from certain things.
	I hate to use Kai as an example, but let's use him as an example.
	He brought Kevin Hart on his shit.
	Yeah.
	As soon as he brought Kevin Hart on his shelves, I was like, alright, look, bro.
	Goodbye to any freedom of speech or anything like that because Kevin Hart is controlled, bro.
	100%.
	You don't reach that level of fame unless they control you.
	That's just what it is.
	You want a Nike sponsorship?
	You want to make big money, etc.?
	They have to have a certain image where you're going to be politically correct.
	You're not going to talk about issues that might be divisive like voting or Republican or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Kai, he said something about, oh, Kamala's people.
	Yeah, that's it, if anything.
	He talked about Kamala Harris' campaign, reached out to him or whatever.
	He's going to probably stay away from politics, and if he does get into it, he's going to take the Kamala side more than likely, because that's more beneficial.
	Can you blame them, though?
	I mean, put yourself in their position.
	They want to excel in the world, become more popular, make money.
	Why would you ruin your success?
	Because money isn't everything, bro.
	As a kid that wants to excel in life, you can't only blame the kid, bro.
	So here's a question I have.
	I know celebrities and hip-hop artists, they don't actually have money.
	They're always kept on a leash where they're never actually able to be independent and just fully retire and be like, I'm done with this.
	I made enough money.
	But when it comes to streamers and these new kinds of celebrities...
	They're in charge.
	Don't they have more independence?
	Like, they're like, alright, I made enough money, I have like, you know, tens of millions of dollars in my bank now, I quit, I'm done, I can do whatever the fuck I want now.
	Like, is there anything to limit that anymore, or how does that work?
	I mean, I think, like, you look at someone like a Nick Merckx, he came out and said there's like two genders or something, and that was like revolutionary, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And he got a lot of hit for that.
	And then Dr.
	Disrespect came out and agreed with him, and then they exposed him.
	So, I think once guys make a certain amount of money, they kind of, like, are willing to more speak on these, like, hot-button issues.
	Uh-huh.
	But, I mean...
	Look, man.
	And this is the problem with social media, is, like...
	What I've noticed, call me a hater, whatever you want, the people that they push the most, a lot of the times they make idiotic content.
	Just call it like it is.
	Idiotic content that isn't thought-provoking, that doesn't necessarily have any thinking or questioning authority.
	It's young kids' stupid content.
	It's moronic content, right?
	Like, you look at Kai Sanat, Speed, etc.
	Like, these guys, Aiden Ross, whatever.
	They're not talking about real shit 99% of the time.
	Because the other thing, too, this is interesting.
	So, Andrew Tate blows up, right?
	He's telling young men to go to the gym, be accountable, make money, don't be a fucking brokie, you know, have more entrepreneurial mindset, fight back against the system, what happens?
	Censored, kicked off every single platform, right?
	Then you have, like, Kai and Speed doing this shit where we're gonna do Minecraft or whatever for 24 hours, whatever.
	That gets pushed all over the place.
	Right?
	Because I do genuinely believe that.
	They have a strong incentive to keep young men stupid, dumb, and not aware of what the fuck is going on.
	Well, if you look at YouTube, to play in your point, I think that YouTube would like to just get rid of all political content, period.
	Yes, I agree with that.
	From everybody.
	And have their nail videos, their kitty cat videos, and their how to fix this dishwasher videos.
	Because they're all advertiser-safe, and it makes them a fuckload of money.
	And they don't have to worry about any problems.
	There's nothing polarizing about, here's how you do your nails, you know, in blue.
	Nobody's going to freak out about that.
	So I think that they would prefer to get rid of all political content.
	And as the side effect of people going over to Rumble, they thought, man, YouTube's losing a lot of these kind of great political streamers who are making millions of dollars for YouTube.
	They don't give a shit.
	A drop of the bucket means nothing to them, and it does not, they are not in a million years going to lose a $500 million a year advertising, you know, or advertiser, because the advertiser says, well, you showed my advertisement on a supposedly safe-to-watch video, but it was really an anti-trans political advocate, right?
	We're pulling out.
	We can't have that.
	YouTube's not going to allow that.
	No way.
	And I'm glad that you mentioned that because Rumble's lawsuit actually exposed this.
	Garb or whatever the fuck they're called, this conglomerate of advertisers, they literally said, don't put our stuff on anything Steven Crowder or Alex Jones like.
	Well, we all know Steven Crowder and Alex Jones lean far more right, right?
	I'd consider them conservative political commentators, right?
	And if you're saying, yo, we don't want anything on that type of content, well, guess what?
	Everyone that leans right is going to be censored.
	And this is why, we all know this, right-wing political commentators almost always are more censored than left-wing ones.
	This is why, if you look at all the top political commentators on the right are all on Rumble now.
	All of them.
	Even Daily Wire are on fucking Rumble.
	So that should tell you guys everything you need to know.
	Well, it's not only that, but going back to something earlier that Fresh said that I wanted to get into, you said, you know, we're kind of learning where the line is now for what is to be censored, what isn't, under these kind of...
	I don't think so.
	I think that it takes about a year for you to know if you crossed whatever this Rubicon was that you didn't even fucking know existed.
	Right.
	And now you're past that Rubicon, and this big, huge, giant machine is mobilized against you, but it takes a long time to finally snap the jaws shut.
	Hold on, when I say there's a line, a visible line, it doesn't stop.
	It's always going, and each new century segment, or for example, topic that comes up, You can cross that line.
	So it never ends.
	So to your point...
	But you know what's crazy about these companies, bro?
	It's all for profit.
	If you fuck up the bag for them, you're a problem.
	Goodbye.
	And guess what?
	It's their platform.
	If you don't comply, it's goodbye.
	That's what it is.
	You know, what I've been able to observe is that...
	For a long time, the anti-woke culture stuff was considered subversive.
	And that's okay, we're going to censor you because you're hurting people's feelings and you're offending them.
	And our workplace employees are getting upset about it and they're pressuring.
	But I feel like that dynamic is weakening.
	I'm even noticing the direction of the Democratic Party.
	And it seems like they're leaning a little less on the woke stuff now.
	And they're kind of muting the volume.
	Yeah, the sensible Democrats for sure.
	They're tired of it too.
	So it seems to me that the real common denominator that they're really going to get you for and really want to censor you for is going to come to what you say about the foreign agenda, the foreign policy.
	It comes to foreign words.
	Now, I'm biased, obviously, because this is why I was banned from Twitch, but I kind of feel like my ban was a little unprecedented.
	I wasn't hurting anyone's feelings.
	I wasn't hateful.
	I wasn't bigoted.
	I wasn't saying anything crazy.
	I was just reporting on this foreign war in a way that was different from the way the mainstream media was.
	But then how do you explain, did this happen to Dylan Burns?
	Dylan Burns gets banned constantly from YouTube for his pro-Ukraine position.
	But how does he get banned constantly?
	Wow, he got banned for being pro-Ukraine.
	I doubt that was the reason, though.
	No, it's not.
	What happens is he's giving coverage.
	Yeah.
	And there's certain words that you can't use.
	Yeah.
	And so you get caught up, right?
	So that's just a bot that's automated that he's tripping over.
	Yeah.
	But in the case of me, we had an entire Washington, D.C., CIA-linked NGO that contacted Twitch and told them that me and Jackson have to be banned.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Again, we're not saying...
	But this is a different company now.
	Right.
	I understand, but it's like...
	They don't even necessarily...
	They will compromise on culture war stuff if they have to, at least in the short term.
	Maybe they have a more long-term agenda or whatever, but at least in the short term.
	But when it comes to information about the foreign agenda and the war agenda and the military-industrial complex and things like that, that is where you're really stepping over toes.
	That's where you're really stepping over toes.
	Well, it's not just that.
	I understand what you're saying.
	That is...
	That is gradually becoming more and more of a problem.
	It's really, to me, the main common denominator.
	Because look, even if you're a right-wing conservative, if you're fully aligned with NATO, just fully...
	Unless you're saying things that are crazy, like inflammatory, like the N-word or something like that, I don't think you're going to get as much flack.
	Yeah, you still get banned for going against LGBTQ stuff.
	You still get banned for going against the domestic cultural agenda as well.
	You still get banned for that just as much as you used to.
	It's still just as invasive.
	The only thing that they've really lightened up on is...
	Real quick, Twitch viewers, come on over to YouTuber Rumble.
	Come on over, because Haas is banned.
	We forgot about that.
	Don't worry about it, bro.
	Don't worry about it.
	Twitch viewers, come on over.
	Sorry, Andrew, continue on.
	Yeah, I was just saying that, yeah, I think you still get banned for those things.
	I think the only thing they backed off on really was just the vaccine stuff.
	But how does Ben Shapiro have a platform on YouTube?
	He talks about transgenders.
	He talks about all this kind of stuff.
	It's the way in which he does it.
	Just like the way in which people will give social commentary on foreign affairs.
	There's a way...
	I don't think so.
	I think Jackson...
	Was very polite, and he was very much not trying to be edgy and shocking.
	I mean, and to be fair, I was a little like, Putin is good was on my Twitch thing.
	Like, I was being provocative, right?
	But he was, he was on YouTube, he grew a way bigger platform than me.
	See, I mean, see, I can tell you right now.
	Has a certain hat on, man.
	I can tell you what is right now, bro, without even going into detail.
	He's with the agenda.
	Let me explain.
	People that are in those spots that are still on YouTube and still on these platforms, talk to people in a communication line that can say to them, okay, don't do this, do this.
	Yeah, direct to YouTube.
	It's open communication.
	You don't have that.
	So, as a result, whatever you do is considered, oh, He didn't talk to us.
	We don't fuck with him.
	Just get him out of here.
	They can say, hey, listen, that was a mistake.
	I won't do it again.
	I'll do it right next time.
	But there's also ways in which these things are communicated that are considered to be safe by these kind of establishments.
	And they use coded language, this type of thing.
	I think the minute they get a whiff.
	From DHS or whoever's telling him this shit that, oh, this is Russian propaganda, or this is Chinese propaganda.
	It's like, that's a nuclear bomb.
	But that's been like that for years now.
	It's been like that.
	But I think the thing that's changed at least a little bit since the McCarthy-er of the 1950s, at least, is, like, people who are not connected to the Russian government at all are being called Russian agents.
	People who are not connected to the Chinese government at all are being called, you know, spreaders of Chinese misinformation.
	Yeah, but that's the same thing as, oh, they called them conspiracy theorists.
	People who didn't believe in any conspiracy, but they were called conspiracy theorists.
	Same idea.
	I don't think so, because it's like they're treating you as they would like a foreign target and a foreign enemy.
	Even though you're a US citizen, just because you have views that are repeated by someone in Russia somewhere.
	Yeah, that might be a distinction, but they always did that, even with communists, right?
	They always did that.
	In the 50s, yeah, but it's been kind of quite a while.
	A little bit.
	Well, communism's also making a big resurgence.
	Or at least it was.
	Breadtube was making a big resurgence.
	Now, Breadtube's dying off.
	But you know what's something interesting about that?
	When communists make a resurgence, I think McCarthy was right.
	Don't you think something interesting about that?
	We think, we say, you know, socialist ideas are gaining traction, more people are calling themselves socialists, you know, they want free stuff or whatever, Breadtube.
	But then, every four years, what happens?
	Guys, we need to vote Democrat.
	We need to vote Democrat.
	It's always just the Democratic Party.
	It's a way to trick young people who are dissatisfied with the Democratic Party and would otherwise break with it.
	Into what we need to, yeah.
	Yeah, and then what they're doing is they're just roping them back in to be Democrats, but they say, oh, you get to be, call yourself a socialist.
	So you could feel more excited about it and feel like you're doing something different this time, but it's really just corralling people.
	I agree, but I mean, it follows why that would be so effective.
	It's just like, how else do we get to this agenda without going for left?
	In that sense, they're right.
	How do you get to that agenda without using the political establishment, absent revolution, right?
	Well, here's the thing.
	This is what I totally disagree with about.
	Why is it such an impossible feat to say, let's build a third party?
	Why is it so impossible?
	Well, it's not impossible.
	People have tried it, and we've had third-party candidates who've won.
	If all of these so-called young socialist voices, all of them pool together with their all, their Hassan Piker, if they all use their resources to say, we actually want socialist politics, we want a third party, we're not going to do the Democrats rigged it against Bernie in 2015, we're going to have our own party, and that actually reflects the values that we talk about while we're on camera, Look, I'm not going to say they're going to get their president elected, but they could easily make an impact on American politics.
	Yeah, but they would just be the libertarian party for leftists.
	But the reason they wouldn't do that...
	It would be bigger than that.
	They'd say, listen, if you become the libertarian party for the left, as the socialist party, you're going to split the vote of the Democrats, and Republicans are going to win.
	That's what they'll say.
	Let me tell you what will actually happen.
	Okay, so the minute...
	Anyone gets the idea to do that and talks about it publicly, they are immediately going to be called a Nazi, they're going to be called a Russian agent, they're going to be called a dangerous fascist or something, and they're going to be totally cancelled and suddenly you're going to find out, oh this person is so bigoted and so racist and all these other kinds of things.
	And it's going to be totally squashed.
	And who's behind squashing it?
	Look, we don't have exact one-for-one proof, but it's 100%.
	It's 100% feds.
	It's 100% CIA. And if it's not CIA, it's at least some kind of organized, entrenched establishment, which is doing everything in its power to make sure that young people are going to be corralled I'm not saying
	that it's right Right?
	I'm just saying from the political perspective of these entrenched powerful agents, it makes sense why they move things that way.
	We're kind of getting off topic, so please interrupt me if you want to hear this.
	No, no, no.
	I mean, it's an interesting discussion that's been brought up because there are people that align with that.
	And no, they're not going to make a socialist party.
	They're never going to allow a split vote.
	I wanted to ask you, I was going to ask you, do you think they rigged it against Bernie in 2015?
	The Democrat Party?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I mean, we were laughing at the time.
	I was watching, I was laughing.
	I was like, fuck you, Bernie!
	You got fucked by the Democrats!
	Come back!
	I thought I was hilarious.
	I don't like Bernie right now.
	I think he's a total shill, and he's a total sellout.
	But it's like...
	He was standing on something that was, I think, left-wing in a way that the Democrats are not.
	Yeah, a lot of support.
	He did, among young people, right?
	Joe Rogan endorsed him, which is huge.
	If you're going to fucking rig it against him...
	Why the fuck do any of these young people owe the vote to Democrats?
	The biggest scam they've been running, and Hasan Piker is 100% culpable in keeping it going, is telling all these fucking young people that they should still be pledging themselves to vote for Democrats, even though...
	See, they kicked him out of the DNC? Yeah, yeah.
	The voice of this new socialist generation was totally crushed, ruthlessly.
	And all of the major influences, they're all bought out.
	They're all bought and sold and paid for.
	And their job is to keep people hooked to the Democratic Party, to the establishment.
	Well, the idea of socialism within the Democrat Party has always just been lip service.
	They don't want real socialism because they would have to give up their fucking money.
	They're all bought and paid for.
	Yeah, they would have to give up their money.
	They don't want that shit.
	It's always been lip service in that regard.
	That's why we always laugh at communists and socialists.
	We're like, what do you find?
	These people don't want anything to do with that shit.
	They're powerful, elite, entrenched.
	They're not giving up their money.
	I don't see communists acting like communists.
	I don't see...
	I don't see socialists acting like socialists.
	I see them say that they're socialists.
	I don't see them acting like...
	But they're champagne socialists.
	Just like Bernie Sanders, you know?
	Like Hassan.
	If I have a dollar, you have a dollar.
	I have two dollars.
	Right?
	That's what Sanders did.
	In my view, if he had integrity, he wouldn't have endorsed Hillary Clinton.
	And I'm saying, we're treading old waters, and it's like, why are you still salty about this?
	I'm not salty about it, I'm just trying to say like...
	He sounded a little mad about it.
	What kind of gets me a little upset is that we're always thinking, oh, the left, the left, the left, there's a left, Hassan.
	Where?
	Where's the left?
	All these people are just liberal Democrat shills.
	If they were a real left, they wouldn't have forgot about what happened back then.
	They would have done something about it and reacted to it in some kind of way.
	Well, the problem is that the left keeps shifting left.
	What's left today will not be left in the next century.
	They become more and more radical.
	At the level of culture, they're definitely becoming more extreme.
	What are they compensating for?
	To me, it's like...
	They're moving away simultaneously from the bread and butter issues that are considered left-wing, that matter, like economic sovereignty.
	All that matters to leftists is social issues.
	Yeah, they're doing that.
	Look right now, Kamala Harris.
	She's literally campaigning off of abortion is her biggest talking point.
	That's her biggest thing, and that's what they do.
	They almost always campaign off of feelings, race politics, and social issues.
	I feel like the reason I have a little bit of sympathy for some of these left-wing, young people, students, as stupid as they are and libtarded as they are, A lot of these people are students who are in debt.
	They have no future.
	They have no prospects whatsoever.
	And the whole, we're going to forgive the student loans, we're going to forgive your debt and shit that was being promised, they actually believe that shit.
	And it's crazy how all of these left-wing...
	Well, some of them do, yeah.
	Oftentimes they do.
	Yeah, when you're like, oh, wait, you weren't really going to do that?
	You just lied to us?
	Exactly.
	And we're like, welcome to the right wing.
	No, no, actually, that's exactly what happens.
	They realize it was all a lie, and then immediately they go straight to the right wing.
	But at the same time, there's an interesting question you have to ask yourself.
	That is also preventing the possibility of them standing on the business of what, you know, they were seeking to before.
	The thing that's still lost and missing from the equation...
	Is the actual bread and butter left-wing politics.
	Yeah, because neither side wants communists and socialists.
	Neither side wants communists and socialists.
	I totally agree with that.
	I'm sure that built into their systems, there's every way they can to suppress the idea of you ever becoming a communist or socialist.
	Neither side likes them.
	No, I agree.
	I just wish there was more honesty about that, you know, on the so-called leftist, you know, influencers and all these.
	I wish they would just admit that to their audiences.
	But, I mean, aren't most leftists in policy?
	He says he's a socialist, but, like, we all know he's a champagne socialist.
	Yeah, but it's like horses and lives in a three million.
	See, like imagine if Hassan was like destiny where he's just like, yeah, I'm a Democrat.
	She'll I just like like put Joe Biden and whatever.
	It's like I don't feel like he would have the edge or the popularity that he does.
	He's keeping people on a false hook.
	Like, promising them something and pretending to have a politics that he really just doesn't have.
	Yeah, but most of these guys, I mean, ultimately, you know this, especially having run in those spaces for as long as you did, most of these guys are just status quo advocates.
	Yeah, by the way, guys, I didn't mean to derail all the...
	No, it's cool.
	It's cool.
	We'll go to the next story.
	They're all status quo advocates.
	We've got Andrew Tate next, I believe.
	Is that what's up next?
	What's next, Bills?
	No, I think I said it right.
	Oh yeah, RFK, shit.
	We gotta do RFK. Chats too as well.
	And then we'll hit the chats as well.
	Alright, let's do chats first, then we'll do RFK. And then, did you have any...
	I just wanted to finish off your thought.
	Oh, no, no, I was just saying that most of what you consider the left, I understand what Haas is saying.
	He's saying, what is real socialism, what is real communism is never given a chance.
	Not that I'm upset about that.
	But he's right, it isn't.
	I mean, even forgetting that, just real, actual left-wing politics.
	You know, like, even shit, let's just, like, you know, yeah, let's forgive student loan debts.
	Like, let's actually do that.
	Yeah.
	I agree with you that left-wing politics is absolutely dominated by social issues.
	It almost never actually highlights economic stuff.
	And I would argue that the economic portions are actually where a lot of their strengths lie.
	Not the social issues.
	But they always focus on the social issues because the problem is that...
	Let's just be honest here.
	A lot of people on the left want handouts.
	So if you go ahead and you're like, oh, we're going to deal with these social issues which puts you in a position of power and you're able to get money or whatever, and we're going to protect these certain rights of yours, that's what they do because women and minorities tend to look for social stuff more than economic stuff.
	No, the handout angle is definitely 100% real.
	But it's like, at the same time...
	Free abortions at the DNC. They were giving free abortions and vasectomies at the DNC. They were campaigning on abortion.
	She spent a whole day, the first full day of the DNC, was talking about abortion.
	And it's interesting, they brought a couple women to talk about abortion, and all of them cited examples of abortion where it was, I was going to die with a miscarriage, a premature baby...
	Even in, like, Taliban's Afghanistan, they'll make an exception for you in those cases.
	Yeah, like, if you're gonna die or something like that, they'll give an abortion.
	So, like, they gave the most, or sexual assault, they gave all these extreme examples of where abortion is, like, needed, etc.
	But it's like, okay, that's cool, but, like, let's be honest here, a majority of women that get abortion get it because of bad reproductive choices with the wrong guy.
	No shit.
	The other thing, too, is that, like, I love how, like, the left, the DNC, they just kept saying that Trump wants to ban abortion.
	No.
	And this is what J.D. Vance has to talk about this in every fucking interview.
	Hey, are you guys going to get rid of abortion federally?
	No.
	They're just going to delegate it to the fucking states.
	But these guys keep trying to say, oh, well, Trump and them are trying to take it away.
	They're not.
	Like, these people need to go ahead and get mad at their governors and their local government.
	Yes.
	Most Americans aren't even aware.
	But you know how stupid they are?
	Yeah, they believe that.
	Roe v.
	Wade was repealed under Biden.
	So it's like, it's just fucking stupid.
	Yeah, I know, dude.
	Well, they blame because their argument is the justices were Trump appointees.
	But then why did they tell everybody to go vote for Biden in 2020 if it was already too late?
	Bro, you have to realize our population, most of it, is going to be stupid, bro.
	No, 100%.
	Oh, another thing, too, that I've noticed.
	Mm-hmm.
	A lot of people are, and especially with women, I've noticed, they're single issue voters.
	Yeah.
	So, like, what they're doing is, and I've noticed this because someone went over to the DNC and did a great experiment on this.
	He said...
	Would you vote someone in that would tank the economy if they allowed you to keep your reproductive rights?
	Almost all the girls said, yeah.
	As long as we get reproductive rights, that's what matters over everything.
	So that proves, yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	And I know it's crazy to say that, but it's like, that's how important...
	And that's why the Democrats lean so heavily on fucking abortion, bro.
	And they keep saying that Trump is trying to take it away.
	You appeal to women's emotions, what do you get?
	Results.
	There's a wisdom in this country.
	There's two things that will drive the electorate.
	Two things.
	Take away the abortion, take away the guns.
	Those are the two things that are going to drive people.
	Those are the two most polarizing things, for sure.
	Those are the things where, like, you don't go for people's guns, you're going to get a backlash.
	Don't go for the abortion thing, there's going to be a backlash.
	Those two things are what's going to upset the American population poking the beehive.
	The parallel here is actually interesting that Haas brings up.
	You remember the assault weapons ban?
	Well, I mean, you probably don't remember, but there was an assault weapons ban under Clinton.
	Yeah, I don't know about it.
	So it was massively unpopular.
	It was a huge mistake.
	Was that for Columbine?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	This was a long time ago.
	It swept all of the Democrats out of office, and Clinton said, okay, this was a terrible mistake.
	As soon as they possibly could, they got the assault weapons ban repealed because it was just not a good policy, a good national policy, and people fucking hated it.
	I wonder what simulated that.
	Was it Waco?
	Because this is the 90s, got to be, because that's when Clinton was in the 90s.
	It must have been Waco or one of these other crazy shootings.
	I don't remember what the context was.
	I was a little kid.
	But anyway...
	It's reminiscent to me of what's going on with abortion right now, which is the same thing, right?
	Oh, we have this abortion policy which is vastly unpopular, and here's the Republicans suddenly scrambling to, well, we want to distance ourselves a little bit from that.
	Nope, it's really about bringing it back to the States.
	Ah, you know, we didn't really want it to go this far, you know what I mean?
	See, they gotta balance different electorates, because what's something that actually drives one of the electorates to go vote?
	The evangelicals, who are all about the abortion.
	The only reason Republicans give a shit about abortion, it's not because they actually fucking care, they don't.
	They don't give a shit.
	It's because the base is Christian.
	It's because, specifically, the evangelical base, you know, really does care about it.
	And the Catholic base.
	A lot of evangelicals and Catholics, too, they don't give a fuck about politics.
	They don't care about it.
	But if they hear, oh, they're going to ban abortion, they're like, oh, okay, I'll go vote for them.
	And they don't have to hear anything else.
	That's it.
	Yeah, abortion is a very...
	It's one of those, what I say, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't deal with immigration, too.
	So it's like...
	It's very tough.
	And I think Trump actually made a smart move by delegating it to the states.
	Hey, we're going to focus on real federal issues.
	You don't agree?
	No, I think that Trump should have said, Project 2025, I love it.
	I agree with you, you should have said that.
	Get these fucking immigrants out of here, by the way, we're building the wall.
	Five times higher this time, right?
	As high as we can possibly get it.
	I think he should have said, yeah, they haven't done enough to outlaw abortion.
	We need to take it all the way.
	He really needed...
	This is our project 2025.
	He needed to double down.
	If he had said to make abortion great again, he would have won.
	I'm the same, bro.
	What he needed to do was double down on all of these policies.
	If he had doubled down on all of his original policies, and he doubled down and said, no, we're going to stay the course, even if it costs us everything, abortion is out of here, we still would have been able to take this thing, I think.
	You think so?
	I don't know, man.
	A lot of these women are coming in and voting for Kamala because she's going so hard on reproductive rights.
	You're underestimating women's feelings?
	I don't underestimate it.
	And the population of women that there are in America.
	Look, it's always going to be a narrow election now.
	Always.
	Okay?
	But Democrats have the numbers over the Republicans.
	They just do.
	The thing is, though, is that you can still appeal to the white working class man.
	You still can, even though people have kind of forgotten that this electorate exists.
	It does exist.
	And if you appeal to them and say, hey, look, you are still the majority...
	You are still the majority here.
	You can go out and vote for these issues which still matter to you.
	They don't want abortion.
	They want to keep their guns.
	They want good economic policies.
	But Republicans have always had those policies you're talking about, and that never got the white working class man out to vote.
	I think the thing that was...
	That's because...
	No, no, no.
	They didn't really.
	Because when they would come out, they would say, we want immigration reform, we want this type of thing.
	Well, that's what I was going to say.
	They didn't really have the policies.
	The main thing that Trump touched on, and this includes the immigration stuff, but it's broader.
	It's not just immigration.
	It's NAFTA. It's the trade agreements.
	It's the trade deals, right?
	It's the industrial policy.
	Well, it's no more.
	What he touched into was no more.
	Yeah, well, he was basically saying he's going to return the jobs back, he's going to have an industrial policy, and he's going to bring manufacturing back to the United States.
	Yeah, domesticated.
	That is really what tapped into it, I think.
	I think all the other stuff that was exciting on the internet and stuff, that was kind of...
	You know, you're from Michigan just like me, so you know this as well.
	It's like, that is really what really brought him into that base.
	Into the Rust Belt.
	Well, it's not just that.
	It was the idea...
	Could we get back to a status where one person in a family really could make enough to take care of the family?
	Where you could buy a new car every couple of years because it's domestic manufacturing.
	Now you're working at that big Delphi car plant, and when you're working there, they give you a free car every three years, right?
	That's what it is.
	That's what it moved into.
	I agree with that 100%.
	But I also think that the double-down on these positions, the illegal immigration, no more of that.
	I think, look, sometimes when you double down on the politically incorrect stuff, that is a way to signal to your base, like, yeah, yeah, I don't care what these people say, I'm not going to be bought by them.
	But if that's all you have to offer, I do think...
	You are going to be ostracized, you're going to be considered weird, and you're going to mobilize all the young people to destroy you as the villain.
	And if you don't offer that substantive thing you just mentioned, which is the bread and butter issue that people actually care about...
	It's not going to be given the necessary context.
	Yeah, but I think it's a combination.
	I think you need to have this combination.
	The reason I think that you need that is I don't think people think that the American dream is achievable.
	When you're talking about NAFTA, you're talking about outsourcing.
	That's what immigration is.
	It's the idea of now we're outsourcing our population.
	I think going hard on that is totally smart.
	I agree.
	Going hard on that is like, yeah, go as far right as you want.
	But I would say the abortion thing, just because I know how moderate people are...
	Yeah.
	And how most people don't identify as religious and most people identify as secular.
	I think Trump's position on abortion is smart from a strategic standpoint to say, you know what states?
	You guys fucking deal with it.
	I don't remember.
	Here's the thing.
	Kamala's campaign is running off of saying Trump is anti-abortion.
	Do you remember?
	That's what they're running on.
	You know what the problem is though?
	And that's how they're gaining votes.
	Women will say...
	And then women vote a lot, too.
	Women will say...
	If we repeal the 19th, though, then yeah.
	It's still Trump's fault, even though he gave it to the states.
	So that's the issue here.
	But if the claim...
	What do you guys...
	Hang on, one second, if you don't mind.
	If the claim, though, here is...
	Well, women are so easy to influence and so stupid when it comes to the electorate that they'll basically believe anything...
	Even if Trump takes this position of moderation, there's no reason for me to think that women won't believe that he's anti-abortion because the fucking Democrats say he's anti-abortion.
	I don't remember that well.
	I could be sounding really fucking stupid right now, but in 2016, Was abortion the hot topic of that election at all?
	I don't think as much as it is today.
	I don't remember it at all being a hot topic.
	Do you want to know why it's immigration, Muslim ban?
	It was that they were claiming the way that they were scaring people.
	They were like, Trump, he's a crazy guy.
	He's a racist.
	He's inexperienced.
	World War III. We can't let this guy win.
	He's a clown.
	Yeah, nuclear war.
	But I don't remember them leaning too much on the abortion thing.
	And I think you're right.
	You want to know why abortion is so big this time?
	Because Kamala's a female.
	That's why...
	Before we even knew that she was going to be the candidate, it was already a big deal.
	I think it's because they discovered...
	I think her being a woman has exacerbated it.
	And a black woman, too.
	This is the first time they have a chance to elect a woman as a president where they can identify with her on so many levels.
	She's exacerbated that topic.
	She's going to win, bro.
	I believe she's going to win, bro.
	You guys think so, too?
	100%, bro.
	See, look, Trump...
	How's she gonna lose?
	They're not ever gonna have the fucking Trump in there, bro.
	Never.
	Never fucking, no way.
	No, again.
	Yeah.
	Nothing gets cooked.
	It's like, it's like...
	I mean, Hillary was a woman too, right?
	And it's like, they discovered an Achilles heel from Trump.
	A really unpopular thing about Republicans from the pre-Trump Republican Party era...
	It was the abortion stuff.
	Like, everyone knew that.
	Trump was kind of casting...
	He's not a traditional Republican.
	He's winning the blue-collar, you know, Rust Belt, you know, what do they call him, something Democrat, former Democrats or whatever.
	And these people are kind of a little more moderate on social issues.
	You mean like the blue dog?
	Yeah, the blue dog Democrats or whatever.
	They're a little more moderate on the social issues.
	So Trump was not going in the extremes in that direction, right?
	Yeah.
	But they discovered how much they could animate all these young, brainwashed people about abortion and these social issues, Roe v.
	Wade or whatever, the repealing of Roe v.
	Wade and how much that caused a backlash.
	That's why it's so important now.
	That's why they're leaning into it now, because they realized we could hit him on the thing that actually is his Achilles heel, which he didn't even have to worry about in 2016.
	Right.
	Well, right, because there's a policy switch here, and it was done by his Supreme Court justices.
	This policy switch can now be blamed on him because it's his Supreme Court justices which tipped the favor here.
	So they are attacking him on this.
	It is a legitimate form of attack because one of the promises of these Supreme Court justices was that this was probably going to happen.
	This was probably going to happen.
	I think Trump is a mission impossible.
	How is he going to win this, bro?
	How?
	Well, there's no energy now.
	Dude, it's like he's a dead walking...
	He took a bullet.
	He could have wrote his ticket that night, dude.
	He could have gone out and he could have had the speech of all speeches and been like, they tried to kill me, these motherfuckers!
	They tried to kill me!
	I was at his first speech at the RNC after, and yeah, I'll tell you guys, he could have done better.
	That was his first speech back at the RNC. Milwaukee fucking, you know, Wisconsin.
	He could have went hard on that speech.
	But do you think the Trump of 2016 that didn't go through all the bullshit, Can be the same Trump today?
	No.
	Fresh is right.
	The way he went through, bro, was pure sabotage of the mind and body.
	Any human being, any man of stature going through that bullshit will be hurt, bro.
	No, no, no.
	He's tied up all in the courts right now.
	They got him by the balls.
	Another one!
	He's totally unable.
	I would give you the concession that he's a changed man.
	But I wouldn't give you the concession that he could not be the same as he was in 2018.
	He could.
	He's just not.
	Because I think, ultimately, and it's very possible that he's been approached and told, if you lose this, but it just looks like you really tried hard, right?
	But you lose this thing, all this goes away.
	I have a question.
	All this goes away.
	Why is he going to go to jail if he doesn't win?
	If you were Trump, could you deal with all that bullshit and still be the same person?
	Answer that question.
	No.
	Well, he's not.
	We know this.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	Who in their right mind could be Trump right now and still be the same Trump?
	Well, yeah.
	I think that their psyche would be beat up.
	But I think that he could still have the same energy policy.
	You can see him holding back.
	When I watched the debate, I remember with Biden, I turned to my wife and I'm like, I can tell that this guy wants to just fucking trounce this idiot.
	I want to get your opinion on this, because you're from Michigan and you probably come from the communities.
	People tell me that one of the things that regular people didn't like about Trump, I'm talking about elderly people, whatever, is although they liked him and they wanted to vote for him, When he was doing all the things we found hilarious, like going on TV bullying people and calling them names and shit, they didn't like that shit.
	It's true, but it did not deter them when vote day came for voting for him.
	Yeah, but I think he kind of realized that that's one of the things that makes him not liked as much by his base.
	As much as it's counterintuitive to us, because that's what we like him for, he's hilarious, right?
	But he realized, like, he wants to be more respectable and more serious and more presidential.
	And that'll take all the things that made him worth voting for?
	Yeah.
	You know what I think he's become a politician?
	Well, this whole brigade of him being publicly called as a criminal or seen as a criminal, people that weren't even, like, haters of Trump were like, damn.
	I'm going to let a criminal run my country.
	Hell no.
	And just that alone with also his current policies and his abortion rights or whatever, that right there, bro, was a nail in the coffin, I think, for Trump.
	I don't think that...
	And you can still win.
	I'm not as much of a dumbassist.
	I don't think anybody gives a shit about that.
	I'll tell you how he's going to win.
	So, here's the thing.
	He just got Tulsi Gabbard to endorse him, and RFK, which actually, let's go ahead and switch over to the next topic here.
	We're going to talk about RFK here.
	For those of you guys that don't know, that's Robert F. Kennedy Jr., son of Robert F. Kennedy Sr., who was killed, I think, in 1968 by Saron Saron, which...
	We're on YouTube, so I won't go much further than that, but you guys already know what I'm...
	We know who's talking.
	Let's go to the RFK story, then I'll read chats after.
	Alright, let me at least read it.
	Michigan denies RFK's escape from presidential ballot, right?
	So as you guys know, RFK last week endorsed Trump.
	I forget what city he was in, but he came in, he gave a speech.
	RFK was talking about really going hard after the FDA, the big pharma, etc.
	He feels as though our children are less healthy than they were before.
	We have problems, which I agree with him on.
	Especially with the whole vaccine situation.
	And he took his name off of the 10 top battleground states, right?
	And he did that, obviously, so that those votes can go towards Trump.
	And he's endorsing him.
	And he's actually going to campaign with him as well, from what I understand.
	But he got a lot of heat.
	From the Democratic Party.
	And some of his family members even turned on him, you know, saying that they disown him and they're angry about it, etc.
	Because you guys know, Kenny's whole family, his uncle John F. Kennedy, his father, they're all historically Democrats.
	So for him to, I think he was an independent Right?
	Because the Democratic Party wouldn't accept him, if I'm not mistaken.
	They blackballed him.
	He ran as an independent, and then now he's going ahead and supporting Trump, which is obviously a Republican, so that's a big deal for them.
	But Arne Kennedy's name will still appear in the Michigan ballot, despite suspending his campaign last week.
	Why it matters.
	Kennedy said that last week he would withdraw his name from the ballot and the key swing states to avoid hurting former President Trump's chances in November.
	But in Michigan, one of the states that could decide the election, it's too late for Kennedy to remove his name, part of the Secretary of State's office.
	And just so you guys know, there's a couple of different states.
	It's Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Florida, Wisconsin.
	Wisconsin, I think.
	I'm thinking of all the background states.
	Where?
	Is Georgia one?
	Florida.
	There's ten main ones, though.
	State of play.
	Kenny, who was in the Michigan ballot as the nominee of the Natural Law Party, was nominated earlier this week.
	The Natural Law Party held their convention to select electors for RFK Jr.
	They cannot meet at this point to select new electors since it's to pass the primary, Hartman said.
	The Kenny campaign did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment.
	Zoom out.
	Kenny suspended his independent presidential campaign on Friday, saying he believed that remaining on the ballot in the battleground states would most likely hand the election to the Democrats, with whom I disagree on most existential issues.
	During his Friday announcement, Kennedy said Trump had asked to enlist me in a second administration.
	Kennedy told Tucker Carlson in an interview that aired Monday that he was asked to join Trump's transition team, and he's looking forward to that.
	So this is basically meaningless from my perspective.
	Meaningless that he suspends the election?
	No, no, no.
	I'll explain.
	Please.
	And they give the game away.
	They kind of tell you what the plot is.
	So he says, look, I can really hurt your chances.
	In your run here, but on the off chance, because there's no way I'm going to win, but on the off chance you do win, I want an administration where you are going to allow me to have a position in the administration.
	Democrats aren't going to offer that to him.
	Yeah.
	So, very simple.
	He makes a deal.
	The deal is, I'll support you.
	I won't hurt your chances in any of these key states as long as you give me a position in the administration.
	That's, like, kind of politics as usual.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's particularly meaningful.
	It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsi Gabbard had something similar with some type of, you know, we're going to get an administrative spot as long as you're out here campaigning and not hurting my chances in these key battleground states.
	So I don't think that this is meaningful in any way.
	I don't think it's going to change the outcome of the election in any way.
	And I think that this was expected.
	The main things that we have to look at right now are what's going to be the October surprise.
	Whatever that is, is going to be, I think, fucking insane.
	Whatever that is going to be that they drop on Trump just before...
	Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala.
	Well, I think that whatever the October surprise is, is going to be about Trump.
	Okay.
	It's gonna be about Trump.
	And I don't know if it'll be, like, some bombshell that they drop, but there'll be something that will also, you know, drastically hurt his chances.
	So you don't think this is important at all that RFK is endorsing him?
	Not even a little bit.
	No.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	I disagree with that, and I'll say why.
	You can go first, yeah.
	Do you agree that RFK endorsing him is a good thing?
	Or are they gonna benefit him?
	I think at least a little bit, I think it could.
	I'll tell you why.
	To me, right, personally, I like RFK, despite the fact that I consider myself more, I guess people call me Farre, whatever.
	Because I like his stance on, because here's the thing with RFK. He's actually pretty damn anti-establishment.
	And he's very critical of the pharmaceutical companies, the food companies, etc.
	People call him a conspiracy theorist.
	That's why the Democrat Party didn't really want to sign off on bringing him on.
	And I think for Trump, that's good because one of the main criticisms that he's getting is that he's become the politician that he campaigned against in 2016, which is a valid critique.
	So bringing someone like an RFK who is anti-establishment, who is considered a conspiracy theorist by many, I think that will be good for his campaign because it kind of alludes back to that 2016 campaign that he was.
	Also, I think it's going to bring a lot of people that were in the middle.
	RFK is very social media big.
	He's done a lot of interviews.
	A lot of libertarians like him.
	A lot of people that are not really sure where they're going to go like him.
	He was endorsed by Joe Rogan, which is huge.
	Even though people say, well, Rogan didn't endorse him as a politician.
	He just likes the guy, whatever.
	The point is that Joe Rogan has a huge platform, and there's a lot of people that kind of side with that more libertarian view.
	He's almost like, I don't want to say as big as a Bernie, but he brings in a lot of those voters that were undecided and don't know where they were going to go.
	I think, if anything, RFK is going to bring a lot of those people over to Trump, which I think is a W. And then also, he did...
	You're correct, by the way, as far as giving him a position.
	He was talking about making RFK the head of overseeing assassination attempts in the United States in the rally when he came out.
	So...
	I think it's a good pickup.
	I think it's a big W for him.
	It's just business as usual, man.
	I think, and it's going to bring a lot of people that, because there's a lot of people that hate both candidates, let's be honest.
	Yeah, there is.
	There's a lot of people that hate both candidates.
	I'm not sure that just because he endorses him, whatever he would have siphoned off from Trump is necessarily going to go to Trump.
	Oh, you think a lot of those people will go come out?
	I think they will.
	And not only that, but I think ultimately this was just a CYA deal.
	It was a, this guy could potentially hurt my chances by even 90,000 votes, which could be critical in some of these areas.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I'll just bribe him.
	Hey, you can't win, right?
	No, I can't win.
	Why don't you come work for me instead?
	Right?
	Just the classic...
	I think it was a smart move by Trump.
	And I think RFK has a lot of...
	No, well, here's the thing.
	RFK has a lot of young...
	Impressible people that follow him that don't trust the government.
	And RFK can bring those people in to Trump.
	I think there's still...
	Is that enough though?
	I don't think it's enough.
	Because Trump needs a Democratic vote as well.
	Heavily.
	I think he's going to bring some of these guys as well.
	I definitely think...
	I think he's going to bring some of them.
	So look, I definitely think...
	RFK is very popular, guys, like amongst...
	No, you're right.
	People our age group and people that are in tune with social media.
	Because here's the other thing too about RFK. One last thing and I'll turn it to you.
	I think of any politician I've seen, he's done the most podcast interviews.
	Yeah, but what about...
	He's out there.
	The thing that fucked him up, though, his voice sounds funny.
	Yeah, it does.
	And which a lot of people dislike, but, you know, once you get used to it, you know, you listen to it for a bit, you're like, okay, this guy makes sense.
	But I think he's going to bring a lot of those people over.
	But, sorry, go ahead.
	Those libertarians stay home, though.
	If they don't have the libertarian candidate to vote for, they stay home.
	They just don't vote.
	That is true.
	Some of them will say, I'd rather not vote.
	That's a poor RFK, bro, are behind the scenes.
	They don't want to be out in public at all.
	I think you can galvanize them and tell them you've got to come out of vote.
	I don't know, man.
	But go ahead.
	What's your take, House?
	Well, one of the things I definitely think is that it's probably too late.
	I think this would have been an avenue for Trump to actually have a chance, exactly for the reasons you stated.
	RFK, I mean, I hate his foreign policy.
	I hate his pro-Zionism.
	It's horrible.
	It's a disaster.
	I think that really hurt him.
	When he aligned himself with Rabbi Shmuley, I was like, come on, dude.
	And it's very strange that he did this, and we can only speculate why.
	But anyway, look.
	I think that...
	Oh, he doesn't have Secret Service protection.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think that if Trump...
	He represents a lot of those same people that I think were decisive for Trump in 2016.
	People who care about the bread and butter issues, people who used to kind of vote Democrat.
	They're not really extreme in terms of their social views.
	They're just kind of normal people.
	I think that...
	I don't think Trump really appreciated the extent to which that the MAGA movement was a political realignment.
	It wasn't a Republican thing.
	It wasn't a Democrat thing.
	It totally discombobulated the political options we have, and it created a new electorate, a lot of whom are apathetic and politically homeless.
	They're neither party, right?
	He didn't lean in enough I'm kind of repeating myself a little, but it's like the traditional Republican base, this is a strange phenomenon.
	I don't know if you're aware of this.
	It's so interesting because the traditional Republican base actually started going Democrat, the suburban kind of upper middle class, traditional kind of Republicans that you think of as a Republican.
	They actually were so off...
	Because of the female vote.
	Well, also, but they were also so off-put by the class warfare, the indirect class warfare, at least, that Trump was tapping into these deplorable blue-collar, whatever, you know, mechanics or something.
	They didn't like it.
	These are the respectable kind of upper-middle class, really conservative in the Tory kind of British sense, like they're squares, basically, you know?
	They started going more Democrat And there was another direction that was happening, which is that the kind of traditional Democrat blue-collar base is going the opposite direction.
	And Trump did not really do a lot to accelerate that process.
	The Democrats consolidated that shift and that realignment.
	I agree with you that Trump has never fully understood his own phenomenon.
	Right, exactly.
	But Steve Bannon and guys like that did.
	Steve Bannon was a guy, he learned all about this through World of Warcraft, interestingly enough.
	He learned through understanding, because he bought up this massive company that did gold farming on World of Warcraft.
	Not kidding.
	Wow.
	Did gold farming.
	They basically go and get all the items and then sell them.
	And then they would sell them.
	Well, they'd get all the gold, they'd sell all the gold for real money, right?
	Well, he found out that he could...
	There's a massive article about this I can send that you can post up on whatever your site is, wherever you put it.
	He just got out, right?
	Didn't he just get out?
	Yeah, but it's really interesting.
	He utilized a lot of what he learned about basically messing with the economy inside of the game in order to mobilize people into their various frustrations and this kind of thing.
	It was an interesting article about it.
	But Bannon really understood the Trump phenomenon in a way that a lot of other people never really did, which is you really need to tap into the fact that people are way more pissed off than you think, and you can be an outlet for that.
	You can be an outlet for them to say, this is all bullshit, what's with all the...
	The immigrants, the bad trade deals, everything is exported.
	Our jobs are being sent overseas.
	Everything here is just a copy and paste.
	It's a McDonald's on every corner, followed by a Subway, followed by a FedEx building.
	I mean, everywhere you go, if I drop you in any, you know, suburb in the United States or in any strip mall in the United States and you looked around just based on the buildings which were around you...
	Would you ever know where the fuck you were?
	No.
	You wouldn't know which state you were in.
	You wouldn't know if you were in Tennessee.
	You wouldn't know if you were in Houston.
	All the same.
	You know, it's all the fucking same.
	And people were very upset about this, and they still are upset about this.
	The Trump phenomenon was tapping into this idea.
	Now, it's way broader than that, but I would agree with Haas.
	That Trump is one of the people who never really understood the phenomenon that he tapped into.
	His advisors did.
	Guys like Bannon, who are no longer around.
	And that's why he's not doing as well as he was doing when he ran his original campaign.
	Yeah, he has some bad advisors.
	Haz, you didn't get a chance to talk about the RFK thing.
	So do you think it's going to help?
	Do you guys think it's not going to really help in different...
	I think it will help.
	What do you think?
	I think it would have been a step in the right direction much earlier.
	It's too late now.
	So you think it's too late?
	I think so.
	Okay.
	Alright, fair enough.
	It could do something, but not much.
	I wouldn't say much.
	You think it's indifferent, it's not going to do anything?
	No.
	You agree with him, and I told you guys why I think it'll help.
	Because I do generally like RFK and I think he will mobilize like a silent amount of people that are very indifferent to the election.
	They're kind of like, I don't like either one.
	I'm an independent.
	I'm a libertarian.
	And I think that will draw them out because I think RFK does have a very strong social media presence.
	He's...
	His interviews do very well when he goes on other platforms.
	He literally just did Tucker yesterday.
	It's gotten millions upon millions of views already.
	He's been on Rogan multiple times.
	And this is something that he doesn't get credit for.
	I think when it comes to social media marketing and doing interviews, etc., he has the best footprint of everybody.
	I would argue Vivek does.
	No, no one trusts Vivek, bro.
	Hold on, hold on.
	He's able to galvanize people that were against his side easily through conversation.
	That is a skill, bro.
	Yeah, but the problem is that no one trusts Vivek.
	He's called Vivek the Snaker for a reason.
	No one trusts him.
	Because you want to know why?
	He gives a lot of Obama vibes.
	Which is the thing.
	He's a very good speaker.
	He's very smart.
	I like him too.
	Don't get it twisted.
	I like him too.
	But a lot of people don't trust him and they think he's a snake.
	You know, we could really be underestimating the RFK thing when I think about it.
	I'm telling you, bro.
	It's just the demographic.
	If you could get over his voice, because his biggest hurdle is his voice.
	People hate his fucking voice.
	I just think the demographic...
	When you listen to one interview, and then you listen to a second, and you're like, okay, you get used to it.
	But at the same time, his people are too old.
	They're like millennial to older crowd.
	They're our age group, bro.
	Yeah, but we're old.
	Late 20s, 30s?
	That's who he appeals to.
	But Kamala, I feel like, has this energy, which is really the TikTok.
	Yes, she does, dude.
	She has the meme culture, bro.
	So many of these fucking weirdo losers.
	These TikTokers were at the DNC, dude.
	She has the meme culture.
	And that's exactly what Trump had.
	In 2016.
	Yeah, in 2016.
	Now she has it, bro?
	Nigga, she got the whole arsenal of stupid dances and shit.
	Can I say, right now, the right can't meme.
	At all.
	At all.
	It doesn't work.
	It's done.
	It's finito.
	It's like, what the fuck?
	What happened to this?
	It used to be really funny, now it's not funny.
	When censorship was totally lifted on X, the right basically, I feel like, exhausted all of its ammunition.
	And in terms of the meme stuff.
	All the extreme positions have been taken out in the open and exhausted memetically or whatever.
	So there's not a lot of room for the magic there anymore.
	I just kind of feel like Kamala's whole meme magic is like, you know, excuse my French, it's like, ah, I'm a stupid bitch, whatever, like, it's cute, you know, it's charming, she's an airhead.
	She's careless, though, but she's carefree, and that's what makes her so charming.
	It's like legally blonde.
	Yeah, something, something, some...
	Legally black.
	Yeah, yeah, and it's like, there's something about this that people find appealing.
	It reflects America, the state of America right now.
	America is blind, carefree, and stupid right now, and it's like going down a spiral of self-destruction.
	By the way, would anybody actually be surprised if a whore became president?
	Because I wouldn't be.
	Kim Kardashian, isn't that the perfect representation of America right now?
	The Republicans trying to call her a slut actually doesn't help.
	Hold on.
	Kim Kardashian.
	No, it doesn't help.
	Khartoua.
	Megan Thee Stallion.
	Cardi B. All these queens of influence.
	Taylor Swift.
	The mass population.
	Rihanna.
	All three of course.
	Support whores.
	Yeah.
	And as a result, you're right, the slut comment doesn't hurt her at all.
	It doesn't hurt her at all.
	If anything, she's empowered to be a woman of culture.
	Yeah.
	That's what it really does, bro.
	They say that she slept her way to the top, etc.
	The only people that are going to find that funny and like that stuff are people like us that watch Steven Crowder that like that type of...
	Because Crowder actually got in trouble for this.
	Yeah.
	Funny enough, they kicked him off YouTube for like a week because he had a doll of her humping a Statue of Liberty.
	To insinuate that she's promiscuous, and she slept away to the top, etc.
	And they hit them for bullying for that.
	They hit them for cyberbullying for that.
	I will say, there's an interesting dynamic going on, without getting too much into everything.
	I've noticed that in the hip-hop industry, female rappers are starting to dominate big time.
	That's the real up-and-coming next big thing.
	And if you look at them, they're all 304s.
	See, there used to be a time when Lil' Kim came out, and I'll never forget this.
	She came out with an album cover with her legs wide open.
	Everyone was like, what the fuck is this?
	It caused a lot of controversy, etc.
	Like, yeah, she had some radio spins or whatever, but she didn't dominate at all.
	It was still the male artists, etc.
	in the 90s.
	But now, you look at a lot of these female rappers, Nicki Minaj, Kim Sexy Redd, Meg Thee Stallion, etc.
	Cardi B. These women are, they've all had what?
	We got our music guys here in the house.
	All of these girls have had like top 10 on the Billboard, right?
	Yeah.
	Versus like, you look at female artists from before, none of them ever hit Billboard like that top 10.
	But now these women control hip-hop.
	Yeah, it's like, look, the appeal of original hip-hop was like, you know, you're an outlaw, it's a dog-eat-dog world, you're gonna stand on your own business, and it's you against the world, and that's it.
	You know, it's like, it's a ruthless world.
	And I think they were, you know, there was a lot of things that happened where like, okay, it's toxic masculinity, there's too much kind of...
	Isn't that the same message just coming from the women?
	Right, but then that's still not been domesticated by the political correctness, so...
	Well, it is subsumed under it, but it's like, it's still an edge, so to speak.
	It's the same message.
	It's just, now I'm empowered.
	I'm the outlaw.
	You can't tell me what to do.
	Do you remember how hard women fought to be where they are today?
	Do you think for a fact they're going to say, you know what?
	Trump is smarter for presidency and a man of steel.
	I'm already going to say, it's the first time we can actually make a choice to make a change as women.
	Well, she brought Meg Thee Stallion on her first rally.
	I should tell you guys everything that you need to know.
	She brought Quavo, she brought Meg Thee Stallion.
	I don't disagree.
	I don't think that the average woman wants a female president, to be perfectly honest with you.
	But...
	I think in this particular case, I think you're right.
	I don't see a path to victory for Trump under his current campaign.
	I really don't.
	And the most important reason why isn't because I don't think that Trump can't get the votes, because he can't.
	I think it doesn't matter if he does.
	They're not gonna fucking let him have it.
	They're not gonna let him have it.
	And also, I would prefer Trump to win, just off the basis of common sense and logic.
	But unfortunately, it's not up to us.
	It's up to them.
	Deep stay out.
	Just saying.
	Okay, so I'll...
	Let me read chats and I'll give you guys my take on the path to victory that I think Trump can have here.
	Because I do think that there's a path.
	It's narrow, but I'll tell you guys here in a second.
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	Let's try this again.
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	What else we got here?
	Fresh, be the special guest one time and enlighten us about the prophecies of the Bible.
	You know, all the end of time stuff.
	What's supposed to happen?
	What has happened and all that?
	Scare us, nigga.
	We can do that, bro.
	You know what's crazy?
	In Bible study back in the day when I was a kid, they played the movie Left Behind.
	How about you and Andrew do it?
	You guys are both, well, he's orthodox.
	I don't know what your eschatology is.
	So, I'm more of an independent.
	Let me explain.
	What were you raised with?
	Pentecostal.
	Oh, that's scarier than...
	But hold on.
	Hold on.
	I saw what it was for what it was.
	Meaning that it's all a bunch of like...
	Ooh, Holy Spirit.
	Understandable.
	But I then saw non-denominational Christianity as a way to see what the Bible really says, right?
	But to go a little bit further, they'll play in Bible study these three movies.
	Left Behind 1, 2, and 3.
	What it is is a movie telling of end-time prophecy coming true in real life.
	Antichrist coming back to the world.
	And that's pre-tribulation rapture.
	Yes.
	And a rapture is going to happen where people are taken away from this world and saved before the end time comes fully.
	Granted, though, as a kid seeing that, you're like, oh, this is a scary movie.
	Then the pastor's like, no, this is real life.
	We're like, what?
	This is going to happen?
	So that alone scared the shit out of me.
	Nigga, I was in church every day.
	So wait, are there any differences between, because he's an Orthodox Christian, and you've seen very, very many differences.
	With the end of times, you guys look at it differently?
	Yeah, we look at eschatology for us.
	The rapture for us isn't a thing, really.
	Well, no, no, hold on.
	You know what's crazy?
	I don't believe in it either.
	And actually speaking, this is what I'm saying.
	I'm not based off of a tradition.
	I'm based off of what the Bible says exactly.
	Which is very important to me.
	But granted, though, that movie was scary as hell as a kid.
	Well, Revelation is not well understood.
	It's not.
	And it's very difficult.
	That's one of the things that Protestants fuck up the worst, because it's so cryptic on purpose.
	The purpose of it is to not give you the information.
	That is the purpose.
	Wait, do you guys agree then, it seems like to me?
	Because we could do this end of time thing, I guess, for the people one day.
	Yeah, that would be fun.
	I'm going for it, bro.
	Or you guys could give different perspectives.
	Or you guys could talk to an orthodox eschatologist, but I could give you my taste.
	Because they want to know the end of times, like, what you guys think.
	You know what's funny?
	The people you talk about...
	That run these companies, all this jargon, aren't the real enemy, bro.
	Hold on, boys.
	Yeah, the real enemy hasn't even come yet.
	I mean, he's here in spirit, but not really fully here.
	They're just pawns in the whole game.
	But their agenda pushes towards revelation happening.
	And it's funny because if you look at what's happening in the Bible, it's happening today as we speak.
	Which is crazy, by the way.
	Well, it's actually a really strong argument against atheists, because they can't actually explain why prophecies came true.
	They just say, well, you were moved into the fulfillment of them because you wanted them to happen.
	It's like, well, then, wait, then...
	Isn't that what it says is going to happen though?
	Which is why I argue if you are atheist or you're a different religion, how do you explain about being so accurate nowadays?
	It's almost impossible to deny what's happening now.
	Even what's going on right now with Israel and Palestine, when they're saying, look, we're about to make this big sacrifice of the golden heifer, we're going to remake the temple.
	It's like...
	It's on purpose.
	To fulfill prophecy.
	Which is what I'm telling you.
	Fighting an enemy you can't beat is suicide, my nigga.
	They ain't going nowhere.
	Well, the people of God ain't going nowhere.
	So, that's all I'm gonna say.
	You mean Christians?
	Yes.
	Real Christians.
	Yeah, Christians.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because Israel's not...
	The people you're trying to fight, they're not important, bro.
	Trust me.
	They're not.
	Alright.
	They're pawns.
	What do we got here?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	WPanel, WFNF, appreciate the political and different perspectives.
	Somewhat unchained, LOL. Hope to see more of this on Control Chaos.
	Myron, looking forward to it.
	Question, Myron, do you think Trump will actually realize JFK documents or an empty promise to RFK? Andrew, if you have to steal a man, what would be the path forward for Trump to win?
	What steps in your opinion?
	I don't think you...
	He said there isn't a path, right?
	Like, it's...
	I don't see a path.
	He doesn't see a path.
	Oh, look at this with the news.
	That's funny.
	I don't know what that means.
	What does this mean?
	They're making fun of us with the news thing.
	That's funny.
	Go back to the thing real quick.
	Do you think Trump will actually realize JFK documents are an empty promise to RFK? Here's the thing.
	Trump saw the JFK documents and he didn't declassify them.
	I talked about this with Andrew Bustamante, former CIA. He's never seen ever That they would have documents 60 plus years and not declassify them.
	He says that something is going on and I would say that they don't want the shooters to be identified for obvious reasons.
	And we talked about this on my, we did a whole podcast about JFK. No, it's on Rumble though.
	We did the whole JFK stream.
	Four hours, guys, go watch it.
	Okay, what else do we got here?
	Oh, this is me in the gym.
	Oh, boy, oh boy, where do I even begin my own games?
	Honey, my pookie bear.
	What?
	I have loved you ever since I first saw you.
	You know.
	Now you gotta get rid of mine.
	You gotta get rid of mine.
	Alright, let's move on.
	I'm not going to read this shit.
	Damn!
	That's funny, bro.
	You've got an admirer, bro.
	Admirer.
	Rise of the what?
	Of the planet?
	The apes!
	Let's go, my niggas.
	Appreciate that.
	That's funny.
	FNFW for the streams and debates.
	There are the rumbles that J.D. Vance could be replaced on the Republican presidential ticket.
	No, they're not going to.
	This was shown on CNN yesterday.
	What is your view on the possibility that Vance could be replaced?
	I heavily doubt that he would replace him.
	It's too late.
	I can only hope.
	I didn't ask you.
	What's your guys' thoughts on Vance?
	I never got to ask you guys this.
	He's extremely unpopular.
	He was not a popular pick.
	It was known that he was going to be the pick, but it was not a popular pick.
	Who do you think you should have won with instead?
	You know, I'm not sure.
	I've been asked that question before.
	Out of the possible picks, I think he would have been better off with RFK, honestly.
	Really?
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So you think him endorsing him isn't enough?
	If he had brought RFK in as the vice president, that would have been a better move.
	That would have been a way better move if he could have done it.
	And this was suggested to him many times, but they're like, well, wait a second, he doesn't have the kind of inside political clout which is necessary.
	And it's like, well, but, you know, the whole Pence thing, Pence didn't work out well for Trump.
	Yeah.
	Did not work out well for Trump.
	He should have had an outsider.
	And that's why they hate J.D. Vance.
	That's why they dislike J.D. Vance so much.
	Because, like, bro, you've been betrayed already by your vice president.
	Why are you going to bring in a guy that was a never-trumper in 2016?
	Exactly.
	They're holding a...
	He might, you know, Pence, he could have authorized that alternative slate of electors, by the way.
	He could have done that.
	And then we would have an entirely different nation right now.
	He could have done that.
	And guess what?
	If that ever happened again, if it were to ever repeat, J.D. Convance isn't going to authorize it either.
	Well, Pence, you could say, this new indictment, he's the chief witness in that thing because it's all on the insurrection is what they're saying.
	What about you?
	What are your thoughts?
	I think he's definitely like a Peter Thiel, scary, DOD type of connected guy.
	But, you know, I heard something that Tucker Carlson talked Trump out of war with Iran.
	So, maybe if Trump was chosen as Vice President, you know, that could have...
	Sorry!
	I didn't get sleep.
	If Tucker was chosen as Vice President...
	Oh no, it would never happen.
	Well, I don't, you know, I don't see what other options there would be that I would say are, like, positive.
	Marginally more positive.
	A lot of people like Ben Carson.
	Ben Carson.
	I've heard RFK before too.
	Ben Carson, wasn't he?
	The black neurosurgeon.
	From 2012, the election?
	I thought he was dead.
	Now he's still alive.
	Oh, he ran in 2015 as well.
	People forgot about him, bro.
	I thought he was dead too, but he's not dead.
	Yeah, he's alive.
	Vivek was also another name that people dropped.
	Yeah, you're right.
	People think he's a snake.
	That is true.
	They think he's a scammer.
	Yeah, I think he's a scammer.
	He made his billions in pharmaceutical, right?
	But people just think he's a scammer because he kind of has a fake charisma about him.
	You don't bring on...
	Because people saw Obama.
	Because Obama came in on this whole hope thing or whatever.
	The thing is, it's not even just that.
	Vivek...
	Really tries too hard, and everyone can see it.
	He just tries too hard.
	You can clearly see he's really trying to sound like a president, like really bad.
	And it's just, I don't know.
	That's just me, at least.
	It's like Uncanny Valley.
	It's just super inauthentic.
	He's still better, though.
	Yeah, I think almost any pick would have been better than Lance.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Fair enough.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, a lot of people we're not happy with.
	I've heard more people not happy with Vance than more people.
	Why is Vance so hated, though, aside from the obvious?
	Like, Pence, for example, I'd say is...
	I would say the never-Trumper.
	Yeah.
	That was what fucked him up.
	Against Trump.
	That's...
	And the thing is, is that the MAGA supporters, like Trump's hardcore fans, they dislike anyone that betrayed Trump because they saw, like, what happened with January 6th.
	They hate Mike Pence.
	Yeah.
	Like, anyone that...
	And they look at it like, bro, why are you repeating history?
	Did Vance turn on him in J6? After J6? That's a good question, but Mike Lasavita did.
	What the fuck's his first name again?
	Lasavita, his campaign manager now.
	Yeah.
	Who?
	Lasavita.
	His first name.
	Someone in the chat put it for me.
	Is it Mike Lasavita?
	Because when he lost the election, they said that It wasn't stolen.
	One thing I'm scared of a little bit about Vance, and it's nothing new obviously, but it's like he's a super big war hawk toward China.
	And Iran.
	His first interview at the RNC brought up Iran.
	It's like the anti-China stuff is his big selling point.
	Chris Lacevita, when Trump lost the election in 2020, he said that the election results were legit.
	That's why people don't like him either.
	MAGA, they have a very long memory.
	And they have a low tolerance for people that they feel betrayed MAGA. So that's why so many people are pissed off.
	Let's go back to the chats and then we'll...
	Okay, who can I hit up to join the affiliate program?
	Uh, Dylan's Noble?
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	What else we got?
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	Put the link in.
	Here's a $15 for the WowRis sub?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I did.
	And guys, you're on Castle Club.
	CastleClub.tv, man.
	Yep.
	Let's get another Brandon Carter Money Monday.
	We'll make that happen for y'all, for one side.
	I super-chatted last week about watching that resume podcast three times.
	I'm still not landing a job.
	I just received an offer yesterday, $27 an hour, and now it's $36 an hour.
	I still have to take a drug test and background check on my starting date on the 16th, but I have not put my two weeks in.
	Thank you, guys, for the value provided for free.
	Fresh, what was the booklet about interviewing called?
	First, we got it for you.
	I'm going to get it for you right now.
	And we got you, Nathan.
	All right, pick up the dog.
	She's been trying to get on your lap for a while.
	Pause.
	Ow!
	Okay.
	W. Chris.
	What the fuck?
	Where did y'all get that picture from?
	Mark, would you suggest building a home or buying a home not as an investor but for a family also?
	Do you know any mentors in a credit repair business space?
	Here's the thing, bro.
	As far as building a home, it's extremely expensive because the materials are expensive.
	You could think of the war with Ukraine with that one.
	Because anytime there's a conflict, the price of lumber almost always goes up.
	So if you could afford to build one, go ahead.
	But realistically speaking, it might be not worth it to build a home versus just buying one.
	Especially nowadays with building...
	And it's probably going to be a buyer's market soon.
	Yes.
	Mark, I'm going to set up a crypto dono box for your show.
	Y'all missing out on crypto donos.
	I won't much.
	You're going to talk about Zuck being forced to push a COVID stuff on FB. Also invited Destiny's cousin on the show.
	All right, Ben.
	Is that me?
	I think that's you.
	Just donate here on Cow's Club, bro.
	That's the best way.
	Franchu, you have defined right as entitlement absent duty using the Second Amendment as an example.
	Would I have a duty not to shoot anyone in cold blood for the First Amendment?
	Would I have a duty not to slander anyone?
	No.
	Why would you have a duty?
	Well, I think that slander could fall under duty, but slander's not talking shit.
	Slander is making untrue statements about a person.
	And I think, essentially, everybody has a duty to not slander people.
	That's what I would say.
	You want to be factual.
	Yeah, you want to be factual.
	So you shouldn't be saying things which are designed to hurt the reputation on purpose which are untrue.
	That would be slander.
	So yeah, you probably shouldn't do that at all.
	So it's called The Essential Job Interview Handbook by Gene Bauer.
	There you go.
	The Russian guy says they should equally allow both sides to post their stories on social media or just ban all content to be posted during elections.
	Which it probably will.
	Yep.
	Trix says, what is the new indictment that Jack Smith is filing against Trump?
	Aileen Cannon already ruled his appointment was outside of statutory bounds.
	How can he charge Trump with anything at this point?
	You're right, bro.
	Remember, Aileen Cannon is down here in Florida.
	The new one is out of the Washington, D.C. district, so that's different.
	It's going to be another judge that has to deal with that one, Trix.
	Anything else?
	Okay.
	I don't want to sound like a doomer, but if they fortified the election against Trump in 2020, what's stopping them from doing it again in 2024?
	Nothing.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah, that's what...
	Common sense.
	That's what Andrew's talking about.
	Nothing.
	I think the only thing is that they won't be able to do it in plain sight like they did last time.
	Actually, Crowder's doing a pretty good thing.
	Yeah, we'll see.
	Crowder is actually having the Mug Club guys be out in all the election booths to monitor it.
	They have a huge push that they're doing, which is cool that they're doing that.
	They did all that poll watching with Biden and it didn't work.
	It don't matter, bro.
	We were watching them put up cardboard and shit.
	They shut the whole thing down and all the poll watching didn't do anything.
	When they count the actual votes, that's when you're going to know.
	Yeah.
	When they show up in bags.
	Is it midnight?
	I don't even think they need a rig at this time.
	I think Kamala will win, probably.
	Hey, Myron, I'm striving to be the most accurate pollster for 2024.
	I'm at 34.5k subs, and I just did a collaboration with one of the top three pollsters in the country.
	I hit you on X and email your channel.
	Get back to me soon.
	More details on my email.
	What do you mean pollster?
	I don't think you understand how flooded Myron's emails be.
	Okay.
	Where are we at here?
	Hey, Myron, I'm striving.
	Okay, we got it.
	Okay, fellas.
	This was a great show.
	Wait, we're not done, nigga.
	Man, Freshwater's trying to end the show early, man.
	Nigga, they've been here for hours.
	Up to y'all.
	Well, I was going to talk about the path to victory.
	Oh, okay.
	And I was going to have your guys take it.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And then...
	A new what?
	A new one?
	No.
	Listen to any clip of Vivek from over a year, years ago.
	He is a genius ultra-nerd who took election classes, hence the tryhard speak.
	I like him.
	Yes, he sounds...
	He needs to tone down the presidential.
	If he was really a snake, he would claim to be Christian.
	Oh, come on, bro.
	That's messed up, man.
	I mean, that's a good point, though, right?
	He's saying, because he's not a Christian, he doesn't claim that he is.
	If he was really a snake, he probably would claim that he was.
	That would be more helpful to him.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's what you mean.
	Okay, here's a pat to Victor, I think, for Trump here.
	With just being realistic clear, is he gonna fire Lassovita's campaign manager right now or Susie?
	No, he's not gonna fire them.
	He's gonna keep J.D. Vance on.
	So, let's just be realistic here.
	What I think he needs to do is all in on the debate.
	It's gonna happen, what, September 5th, if I'm not mistaken, on ABC? He's going to debate Kamala Harris.
	So, what he's going to need to do, because this is how we demolish Biden, and made him actually drop out.
	He needs to demolish Kamala on the debate stage, because one thing I've noticed with the debate is that that's how you get these people that are diehard, like, I'm going to vote for XYZ party, that's how you get them over, is when they watch their candidate get absolutely smoked in a debate, in a battle of ideas, I think that's how you're going to be able to bring over Some people that are questioning her on the left, and also bringing the people that are in the middle, which is a lot, by the way, that don't like either candidate.
	I think that's what they're going to have to do, is he's going to have to demolish her on the debate.
	And the thing is that he can do it, because she doesn't really have strong policy.
	She just came out with her policies recently.
	She's been backtracking a lot of things.
	First she said she's not going to drill.
	Now she's saying she's going to drill.
	She's...
	He can attack her on a lot of her social policies.
	I think what Trump needs to do is try to kind of stay away.
	Well, clarify his position on the abortion.
	Clarify that 100% because they're attacking him saying that he's against abortion when he's really not.
	He needs to clarify his position on that.
	And I think he needs to attack her on the critical race theory and them indoctrinating the whole alphabet community in the schools.
	Which he wants to eliminate.
	So Trump is not a strong debater.
	Never has been a strong debater.
	But she sucks too.
	He's good offensively when it comes especially to direct attacks on the character of the individual he's going after.
	He's extremely good with that.
	That kind of rhetoric is very effective, especially in politics.
	If he can hit her with that rhetoric, that's going to be good.
	But if they stick to issues, he loses.
	You think so?
	Yes, because she can just drown him out with an overwhelming, you fucked up COVID, you fucked up the economy, you shut the states down, everything you claim I did...
	You actually did.
	It's your fault because you were the one who issued out all of the checks so that people could stay at home.
	You blame us for it.
	You did the lockdowns.
	You were the one who actually made the vaccines.
	She'll hit him with all of that.
	She's younger.
	She's more energetic.
	What?
	The victim card.
	I'm telling you right now.
	Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	But then you know what he can fire back on?
	What?
	You're in office right now, bitch.
	He's gonna tackle with that.
	She's gonna go that route.
	And I've been here fixing here.
	Let's also remember...
	Because he can literally...
	That's the other thing, too.
	Because here's the other thing.
	He can literally say, look, you're not even elected.
	You shouldn't even be here.
	You're only here because fucking Biden dropped out because he's an idiot.
	And the reality is that you are in power right fucking now.
	She's gonna say, you caused these issues.
	I'm still solving them.
	Yeah, that's exactly what she's going to say.
	No, no!
	Victim car goes all the way, bro.
	It'll stop all the way.
	Oh, hold on, hold on.
	It goes all the way.
	And then he'll be able to say to that, okay, well, if you're fixing my problems, well, let's talk about the border.
	And I think he needs to really lean on her being the border czar and attack her on that.
	Yeah, and she's going to say, we have exported more illegals than your administration did, which is true.
	There's something I remember about the terms.
	Oh, you mean deporting more?
	Yeah.
	Because more came in.
	I agree, but it's still a fact that I don't know.
	Most Americans are idiots.
	She should debate terms and conditions.
	So she says no muting.
	They want to have him sit down.
	Both of them have to sit down during debate.
	For some reason she requested that.
	And no muting, right?
	Because she doesn't want him to look...
	Yeah, yeah.
	Towering over.
	Ah, yeah, because he is tall.
	Trump is like 6'4", guys.
	But that kind of tells me, as far as one of the angles that might be pursued, is like, look, Trump is old.
	He's not that high energy.
	Kamala's has more energy, and she's younger.
	And I just kind of feel like in a debate, she would be able to just say more than he would just because she's, like, younger.
	Like, he's so old.
	That's why I disagree with you on that.
	Yeah.
	Real quick.
	She hasn't done any big, hard interviews.
	True.
	She's only done rallies and, you know, speaking things where she's not having any reviews challenged and or questioned.
	Yeah.
	Whereas Trump has went on adversarial news networks, so does JD Vance.
	Yeah.
	But her campaign has done a fantastic job.
	But this is what they're doing great, by the way.
	They're...
	Highlighting her strengths while minimizing her faults.
	She's not doing interviews.
	She's using teleprompters.
	She just recently talked about her policies.
	It's a great strategy.
	They're going to have her memorize every debate, possible debate point that would ever come up, the board or everything.
	They're going to have her memorize it to a T. You're treating her right now.
	Here's the thing, Tulsi Gabbard already smacked her, which I think is awesome.
	I think it's fantastic.
	Here's your notes.
	Here's the other thing, too, that I think is also great that the Republicans did, is that they were able to get Tulsi Gabbard to endorse them.
	She smacked Kamala already.
	Yeah, that's definitely possible because Tulsi's of a similar age.
	Yeah, but Tulsi Gabbard is much smarter than Kamala Harris.
	She's objectively a way better debater.
	And she has a much more aggressive style, and that whole excuse me bullshit that Kamala does won't work on Gabbard.
	Trump?
	But on Trump, I am standing up to a bully who's bullying me right now, and I have to be assertive and act like this.
	That plays off to the cloud really well.
	You know the issue, though?
	They're going to say, man of logic that I'm watching, you know what?
	Trump is going to destroy her.
	The issue is, again, this is people forgetting.
	The woman audience, bro, is going to be, she's fighting for our rights, she has our back, even though Trump is winning, he's bullying her.
	Especially them sitting down, she's going to look so condescending to him.
	Okay, 20 years ago, I would agree with you, I would say, you know what, you're right, because the mainstream media carries the narrative, because, here's the other thing too that I'm worried about, he's going to be on ABC. We already know, they're left-leaning, they're going to ask questions that are going to favor her, it's going to be fucking biased, right?
	100% is going to be biased.
	But here's the difference.
	We have something called social media now.
	We have alternative media.
	They know it.
	What's going to happen is they're going to watch this debate and a lot of the political commentators, they're going to tell you the truth about who really won and they're going to actually break it down fairly objectively.
	I think they're going to script it for TikTok.
	She's going to script it for TikTok.
	For sure.
	Do clap back moments and make it all memes.
	For sure.
	Destroyed.
	For sure.
	Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Again, like I said before, this is why social media is so powerful.
	I think he's gonna smoke her so bad that they won't be able to fucking make it look like she wants.
	It won't matter.
	Nobody's gonna care about who smokes who because she's gonna have the meme power.
	Who has the clips of memes?
	She does.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Are you covering that live?
	Are you covering that live?
	I'm flying back here for that.
	We're doing that debate live.
	Yeah, because I totally disagree.
	We'll do the pundit thing.
	None of Kamala's appeal at all comes from her being smart or being well-spoken or being intelligent or having good policy points or arguments.
	It's literally the fucking airhead, carefree charisma of like, oh, I'm just kind of like a dumb girl Barbie or whatever.
	And all she has to do is do memes and clapbacks and shit.
	It's so fucked up, bro.
	It's true.
	It's going to make her power level skyrocket for the people that actually like her.
	So you guys actually...
	Because I think, number one, he's going to cook her in the debate.
	I think he's going to attack her policies.
	He's going to show that she's incompetent.
	Because you made a good point.
	She's going to say, I've been fixing your problems for the past four years.
	He's going to say, you're in office right now and you're not doing anything.
	No, that's a good point.
	And you can't do shit.
	I know what she's going to say, by the way, because this is what all the Democrats are saying.
	She's the vice president!
	She doesn't have power like that.
	It's all Biden.
	Well, guess what?
	Biden has said many times, a million times, me and Kamala agree on 99% of things.
	So effectively, whatever he puts into writing or legislation, whatever the fuck he passes, she's there cosigning on it.
	And then she's effectively, I would argue, she's had more power than any other vice president that I've seen in recent history because he's been incapacitated for fucking months.
	This is all objectively...
	Biden is dying, guys!
	But you're thinking too logically.
	You're way too logical.
	The thing is, objectively, I'm not disagreeing that you're correct.
	I'm disagreeing that Trump will be able to convey exactly what you just conveyed.
	The last way...
	When I just saw him debate with Biden, he was super low energy.
	It pisses me off that you're saying this, but you're correct.
	And he goes, well, the thing is, is my administration didn't do that, and we did other things other than that that weren't those things.
	Yeah.
	That weren't that.
	And people were like, dude, fucking hit this guy.
	What are you doing?
	Hit him.
	Hit him.
	Tell him he's a fucking idiot.
	Tell him he's retarded.
	You know, anything.
	And he barely took advantage of the senility of Biden.
	And if he had really started pushing hard on Biden, Biden would have collapsed.
	He wouldn't have even known where the fuck he was.
	Look, I would agree with you on logic and reasoning.
	The problem is, your opponents, who are actually going to be against Trump, They don't think logically, bro.
	They think emotion and rationality to the highest degree of what they feel is right.
	That's the problem here.
	I'm looking at their point of view, and if they believe that she's being bullied, she's a victim, oh, she didn't know what's going on, she wins.
	Everybody fucking hated Clinton.
	Everybody hated Clinton.
	She was not a likable person.
	She never really was a likable person.
	Harris, she's captured the TikTok imagination.
	And TikTok is overwhelmingly women.
	And that's why it's always fucking crazy when you go on there and you join any TikTok panels.
	They're always insane because it's inside the mind of a woman.
	You're inside the mind of a woman.
	That's why it's always wild there.
	Google Kamala Harris, Google Trump.
	You're going to see nothing bad about her, everything bad about Trump.
	Dude, it's crazy, bro.
	Let's do the experiment right now real quick.
	Her appeal to the public is so clean.
	Nigga, how are you going to beat her?
	TikTok, too, by the way.
	Well, the reason why it's clean, yeah, let's type in Donald Trump first.
	Donald Trump.
	Just type in Donald Trump.
	Bro, I hate to say this.
	Let's see what comes up.
	I want him to win, but, bro, it's almost impossible at this point.
	Altercation.
	Special counsel files reworked indictment against Trump.
	Trump's evangelical supporters just lost their best excuse.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Now, Google Kamala Harris now.
	Bro, she is so green, bro.
	This is real time.
	We're doing this right now, 1.30 a.m.
	on fucking Wednesday.
	Let's see what we do.
	When we fight, we win.
	Why Harris wants to unmute Trump.
	Harris and Walt sit down with CNN for exclusive first joint interview since campaign.
	Cook, political report shifts in North Carolina.
	Yo, fuck this shit!
	Nothing bad.
	What did I tell y'all about fucking Google, man?
	Who runs Google?
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Shit's fucking crazy!
	Hold on.
	No, no.
	Shit pisses me off looking at this shit.
	Now watch this.
	Now watch this.
	Imagine somebody that doesn't have logical reasoning that sees this.
	You know what I'm going to say?
	If I had to choose between less or equal, I'm going to choose come out.
	And that's the problem with society nowadays, bro.
	It's what's easier choice and what's comfortable to me.
	Yo, you literally...
	You guys, we just Googled it with you guys live.
	You guys saw that shit?
	All negative shit about Trump.
	All positive shit about her.
	Oh, her first sit-down was CNN! Which is a fucking leftist media company, by the way.
	Like...
	They're not going to ask her no hard questions.
	Why does she go on Fox?
	Trump and J.D. Vance have won on ABC and CNN a million fucking times, but this bitch can't go on an adversarial news channel?
	Why can't she go on Fox?
	She's playing the smart game.
	And her advisors are telling her what to do, A to Z, and she's following word for word.
	She is not giving us policies.
	She is not giving us policies.
	She is not giving us what she's going to do.
	She's not giving us anything.
	She's giving us nothing.
	And the thing is, that's the best thing she can do.
	She's above criticism.
	If she gives you no policy, you can't attack the policies.
	Look, I think Americans have given us a long time...
	She just recently gave the House 125k to homebuyers 5,000 tax credits, which J.D. Vance, by the way, came up with that, and she stole it from him.
	A long time ago, long time ago, at least the new generation of voters do not give a fuck in any serious way about politics.
	It's literally all vibes.
	They gave up.
	The country became so insane and so crazy, especially with Trump getting elected.
	Just how I feel.
	Like, like, oh my god, Trump got elected, like, it fried people's brains, and it's like, after that, and Biden is senile, and he's president, and he's literally senile, it's like, people don't care anymore.
	They're just here for the memes now.
	Here's one more angle as well, just to make this very clear.
	The angle that Trump can come at her with, to maybe bully her a little bit in this direction, and call her out, you know what I'm gonna say?
	Misogynist.
	Bully.
	These terms, bro, will shut out a majority of people to vote for Trump.
	And by the way, by the way, it'll trickle all the way down to the internet.
	This is why red pill content creators exist.
	Because this culture of misogyny, which is why they're all Trump supporters, because they hate women.
	And look at how he treated this woman, who is definitely going to be the next president of the United States, according to them.
	Look at how he treated her.
	What a piece of shit.
	This is the alt-right pipeline.
	You know what I mean?
	I can hear it all now.
	Related to the Red Pill space.
	Right now, we debate women sometimes on the truth and reality.
	You know what happens on the show?
	We tell them the truth.
	People see it.
	These people are bad people.
	Don't talk to them.
	Imagine Trump on a bigger scale to a massive audience population.
	Bro, you're cooked.
	You can't really beat her because now you're a bully and you're misogynist.
	And you're racist.
	Even if you win, you lose.
	He's cooked, bro.
	I'm telling you, he's cooked.
	We'll see.
	I mean, like I said before, I'm excited for the debate.
	I think they agreed.
	Did they agree to two or one?
	Two.
	Two, right?
	Yeah, I was told two.
	Yeah, dude, definitely come for the one in September.
	Because I think that people really love to watch me and you analyze it, especially.
	Yeah, that'd be fun.
	Since we're debaters ourselves.
	Yeah, I'll do it in person.
	Yeah, so that'll be fucking fantastic.
	I covered the debate with Biden and Trump, and people really enjoyed that.
	So this one will be a good one.
	Actually, you guys better fucking watch our ones, because we're some of the best debaters on fucking YouTube.
	You guys better fucking watch it.
	But that scares me, man, because...
	You guys are saying, because here's the thing, it pisses me off that you guys are saying this, but you guys are kind of correct that we're going to look at it objectively.
	Man, he fucking smoked her.
	This chick didn't fucking actually attack any of his points.
	You know, she called him a criminal a bunch of times because you best believe she's going to fucking say that shit.
	You know, he was able to articulate how she stole a bunch of his ideas, how a lot of these things that she's talking about.
	She should come out and say he emotionally raped me.
	Yo, bro.
	Shit like that, bro.
	She'll say that kind of shit.
	This was emotional rape.
	Bro, we cover women topics daily.
	For years.
	We know how women operate.
	Bro, it's only a matter of time until it comes out in the limelight.
	It's just sad, bro.
	I want Trump to win, but bro, looking at everything as a whole, I can't even argue with Kamala winning, bro.
	He's yesterday's news.
	That's just the truth.
	He was the big thing in a different era of history.
	That era has passed, and we're in a new era, and he is obsolete.
	He's like a dinosaur.
	And the state will not allow him to win, bro.
	They want him dead.
	Is he going to win?
	No!
	Here's the other thing, too.
	She talked about she's going to build 3 million homes.
	I'm trying to find a tweet where she said this.
	That's just not feasible.
	In my head, I'm like, okay, we already have a 5 million home shortage, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Right now.
	And this is the problem with a lot of these politicians.
	They don't know shit.
	Like, they don't understand how real estate works or whatever.
	She's saying, oh yeah, I'm gonna build three million homes.
	Bro, are you really gonna build three million homes?
	Because, number one, we know the price of lumber and building a home is extremely expensive and most contractors actually don't want to build single-family homes.
	They want to focus on building commercial real estate, building big projects because they get paid more for doing that.
	Why the fuck are they gonna waste their time and resources building single-family homes, which don't pay that much when the price of labor and materials has gone up?
	It's not feasible.
	Right?
	And then here's the other thing too that she doesn't get.
	Who's buying the single family homes?
	I'll tell you who's buying it.
	It's fucking BlackRock.
	They're buying all the single fucking family homes.
	Who runs BlackRock?
	Larry Fink.
	Where's he from?
	We know that.
	Fucking...
	So it's like, no.
	You're not going to be able to...
	She's making these promises that she simply can't fucking adhere to.
	Or I'm going to give you guys $25,000 on buying homes.
	Guess what's going to happen?
	The people that sell the homes are all going to raise the prices of the house by $25,000.
	But you know what the issue is?
	Is that she's making these promises that are impossible.
	Everyone knows they're impossible.
	But they sound good.
	They're not even impossible only because they're not feasible.
	They're impossible because she would never go against her actual backers and go against the actual people that fund her campaign and shit.
	The Democrats are bought out.
	We all know that.
	She's not going to do all these.
	Give all these handouts for free.
	The three million home thing was the biggest.
	I was like, bitch, you can't do this.
	But look, here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	You guys are smart enough to realize that.
	But you know what's so disastrous, though?
	Yeah.
	It's how Trump feeds into it by being like, oh yeah, she's actually going to do this.
	She's a communist.
	It's really scary.
	And she's feeding into her, like, power projection that she's gonna have all these sweeping changes that she is not going to do.
	If Trump would have said, like, Kamala is corrupt, she's the swamp, she's special interest, whatever, if she, like, leaned on the crooked aspect...
	He leaned on the crooked aspect he did with Hillary and just used that against her.
	That'd be so much more powerful.
	Or incompetence.
	If he leaned in incompetence, that would have been good.
	Oh, it's so scary.
	Kamala Harris is going to herald all of these sweeping changes because everyone loves the fucking system that exists now.
	We really just want to preserve it as it is.
	It's like, no.
	People, even just to see some shit happen, people want some crazy shit to happen.
	Listen, I think we shouldn't give up on Trump totally.
	I'm just saying, how the world is right now, bro...
	Looking at it from an objective standpoint, he's going to either lose Bally because of the world itself, or...
	No, he's going to win, but they're going to project him as a bully.
	Well, here's the thing.
	I mean, I'm voting for him, and everybody in here is voting for him.
	I'm not voting.
	Well, not you.
	I'm not voting.
	Come on, man!
	I never voted in my life.
	I never voted.
	The art of war is to understand your opponent and know how they're going to move.
	I don't care about the left at all.
	I don't care about the Democratic Party, but somebody in Michigan...
	Bro, your vote actually matters.
	Let me tell you why...
	You guys that are in these states...
	Listen, listen.
	Like, your vote matters.
	Your vote definitely matters.
	This is an electoral college, bro.
	I'm the one who coined and conceptualized the term MAGA communism, right?
	So I'm not allergic to MAGA and Trump memes and stuff, but on a personal level, there's a reason I can never vote for Trump on a personal level, and why is that?
	Because to this day, he still brags about killing Soleimani.
	I can't have that shit slide, man.
	Okay, for the audience that was the head of the IRGC. Unforgivable.
	Iran.
	Unforgivable.
	He bombed him.
	He killed him in 2020.
	And he still brags about it.
	He does.
	Yeah.
	He does.
	Well, that ended up getting us attacked in Iraq.
	He shouldn't have done that, but he did it for we know who.
	It was so wicked.
	It was so evil.
	Soleimani was fighting ISIS. He was considered a hero by many, but it was so despicable.
	It's so dishonorable.
	So you'd rather Kamala get in?
	No, I don't care.
	I don't care.
	Shit, man.
	I don't know.
	I look at it like, if you're in one of these battleground states, you're in Pennsylvania, you're in Michigan, you're in Arizona, like, bro.
	Because it's an electoral college.
	You just got to win 51%, and then you get all the votes of that state.
	Here's the thing, right?
	And I'm just going to be totally honest.
	I don't give a shit if he blew up some fucking ragheads.
	I don't give a shit.
	So, I mean, you got to get on a little forum anyway.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I know that my vote makes no difference.
	That's the thing.
	It's just like, am I gonna...
	Well, he blew him up for Israel.
	He was Israel's chief enemy.
	But it's like, if it's personal, like, I'm gonna wake up on election day and go vote for someone, like, why should I do that?
	I could just stay home.
	I understand.
	I understand.
	Why should I pretend like I actually make a difference?
	All this stuff you do.
	You're in a state that you actually do.
	Hold on.
	All this voting talk, bro?
	Yeah.
	You know the reality of this scenario here?
	We could all vote for Trump today.
	All of us.
	If they want him not to win, he won't win.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	Our vote doesn't even matter.
	I wish politics was as simple as...
	Yeah, vote for when you want to.
	Bro, it's behind the scenes politics.
	That's the thing, if you're in certain places, your vote matters more.
	Michigan?
	Your vote matters more.
	Bro, it's all fucked up.
	100%.
	Why do you think?
	If you look at their campaign trails, where are they spending most of their time in?
	They're spending time the most...
	Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan...
	Why was the DNC in Milwaukee?
	Okay, a little bit of conspiracy here.
	There ain't nothing in Milwaukee.
	Fuck, it sucks, by the way.
	They meet before these elections happen.
	DNC was in Chicago.
	And don't know who's going to win presidency before it happens.
	That's what I believe.
	You know, guys, I can't believe I sound so crazy, but it's like, what if Trump is just a clone?
	You ever thought of that?
	That's a little bit late.
	You might need a cup of coffee.
	We don't know, but how do I know?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	- Yeah, I think I said it. - Yeah, and the last one here guys, and I wanna get your guys' takes on this and then we'll close it up.
	So, obviously as you guys know, our boy Andrew Tate was arrested last week.
	What I find it interesting, because days after Candace Owens had a Twitter space about a certain topic, they went ahead and had him arrested.
	And then, obviously, he got like 33 charges.
	No.
	Allegedly 30 plus women came forward saying that they're new victims in this case.
	And two are his baby mamas, I believe?
	And two of them are baby mamas, which I thought was very interesting.
	So let me get this straight.
	You're saying that the mother of his children are victims in this human trafficking scheme and they can't see their kids now because of it.
	Listen, this is the issue when you are a free speech absolutist and you believe everything is okay.
	The problem is, bro, the powers that be...
	Don't want that shit out there.
	And as a result, you become a target and you become a isolation of pure punishment as an example of heretics and people that don't follow the agenda.
	What Tate did, I believe, was great for men.
	The influence he had was impactful, the most Googled man in the world, crazy exposure.
	2022, yeah.
	The problem is, when you become a figurehead of free speech and the truth, you become a target of the establishment.
	And we all know what happens at that point.
	Yeah, and take Hess' kids, guys.
	For some of you guys that are wondering, yes, they have multiple kids, both of them.
	They ruin your reputation, they kill your desire to make money because you can't make any money, or they kill you or put you in jail.
	It's either one of these four scenarios.
	And what do you do at that point?
	Do you fight back the establishment?
	How?
	They're not even on camera.
	They're behind the scenes.
	They're in some mansion or castle in Sweden or something like that.
	Who knows?
	But they're not even seen on camera.
	How do you fight back?
	It's government.
	Can you?
	Yeah.
	There are ways to do so, but it takes your whole life.
	Essentially, when you're in a position like Tate, right, you're a martyr at that point.
	Yeah.
	He's not, and that's how, unfortunately, I think his story ends, is he's going to be fighting for this for the rest of his life long after people have forgotten what he's even fighting with him about.
	You know what I mean?
	And I think he even knows that.
	He knows that.
	I think he even knows that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, he even said it when we went and did the pod with him.
	He says, I'm going to jail.
	Like, send me to jail.
	But he's very clear.
	He said, don't be a martyr.
	Remember he said that, right?
	Don't be a martyr.
	I remember he said that to Sneeko.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, don't be a martyr, but I think...
	I think he's going to end up...
	He said it's a Sneeko, because they were already starting this bullshit on him before.
	And I get the complaint, fresher coward.
	Listen, motherfuckers.
	You have to understand, right, bro?
	This life that we live right now, bro, is built off of...
	If you move dumb, you're gonna fucking die and end up in a fucking box.
	Listen, motherfucker.
	I got shit going on by the season.
	I got family to take care of.
	I'm moving smart because I know what's happening in the real world and what the Bible says.
	Now, granted though, I can be a free speech absolutist as well or martyr myself.
	But nah, he can do that shit.
	Go ahead, Myron.
	Give me the martyr, bro.
	I will.
	It's okay.
	Let's go to the tweet real quick.
	It goes, and this is from our boy Jewel Sullivan, the Sartorio shooter.
	A new level of ridiculous from Tate prosecutor.
	Buying mate's cars equals hiding money from trafficking in 23 and 24 while it's under judicial control.
	As you guys know, well, some of you guys don't know this.
	So what ended up happening is the Tate brothers bought their fitness guy...
	Tristan's training also with his shoulder.
	Yeah.
	And they bought one of the other guys.
	They bought him cars as gifts.
	And they're trying to say that they were hiding money from trafficking.
	This was money laundering.
	While they were having the house arrest in 2023, as you guys know.
	So let me get it straight.
	What the fuck?
	I bought my friend a car.
	It's money laundering, bro.
	And now I'm...
	Hiding money.
	Hiding money from the government.
	The two defenders purchased and registered four luxury cars in the names of close people.
	At the same time, in an attempt to prevent the discovery of the truth, they took acts of clearly intimidating nature and acts of corruption on some injured persons and witnesses in order to induce them not to give statements or give false statements in this file.
	Well, first of all, I don't understand what those have to do with each other exactly.
	But also, on the first point, how would that be hiding...
	How would that be hiding the money?
	I couldn't think of a better way to not be hiding money than to be like, oh hey, look at this new Lamborghini!
	That's like driving your money around for everybody to see!
	People that do bad stuff, Myron, they lay low, they don't post anything, they keep it private, if at all.
	They're posting online.
	I think Dicot is just running out of steam.
	And they're like, we need to put another case on these guys because I think the other one was weak.
	And they were like, yeah, we need to do something.
	Because I don't think people understand this, right?
	Like when the States got arrested in the end of 2022, it was, if I'm not mistaken, in December, I don't think Dicot and the Romanian government knew that it was going to get that much media press.
	And when they realized, holy shit, This is worldwide news and they're covering it.
	Like, yo, there's like Twitter accounts and YouTube accounts literally dedicated to just covering Tate coverage, right?
	These dudes made a whole platform off of talking about Tate's arrest, right?
	When they did this, I don't think they knew that it was going to reach this worldwide level of reach.
	Now, guess what?
	Now they have to see it through.
	Just so you guys know, Romania is an extremely corrupt country.
	This is a place that's very known for police ripping you off, taking the money, hey, you bribe, whatever the fuck it may be.
	They thought maybe we could get a quick payday, take some watches, take some cash, et cetera, because they seize all this stuff and be able to keep it moving.
	No, they can't.
	Now they actually have to bring this to fruition and put these guys in jail to some degree with evidence.
	And they haven't been able to do that.
	So they're like, you know what?
	We're going to go ahead and make another case, bite ourselves some more times because the Romanian criminal justice system is.
	They arrest you and then they investigate.
	They give you preventative detention.
	And that's what they do.
	do so like they do the case after you're arrested there's no probable cause or any due process that we enjoy in the united states in the western country so um i think it's very important for everybody to understand that uh it's the other way around and i don't think the romanian authorities knew that this was going to get this much press if any of you are in andrew's position what would you do Me?
	What would you do?
	You know, this is something I haven't really been keeping up with at all.
	I don't really know about the case.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I haven't really looked into it.
	But it just seems like he's going to jail and there's nothing to do about it, right?
	Or am I missing...
	That's what it seems like hearing you guys talk about it.
	Like, he's just going to prison.
	There's nothing to be done.
	I think at this point, he's been a target of a lot of people's envy and, I want to say...
	No, I mean, I know who he is, but is this case going to actually put him away?
	We don't know.
	I think that the...
	It seems like he's in a totally powerless position.
	He is.
	What can he do?
	Well, he can fight, and that's what he's doing.
	In the courts, right?
	Yeah, so I mean, what would you do in his position?
	The only thing you can do is fight.
	The only thing you can do is fight or cut a deal, but they probably see so much of this guy's assets.
	I don't think he has the sort of net worth he used to have fighting all this.
	I don't even know if you could bribe somebody.
	What would you bribe them with?
	Well, at this point, Romania is...
	Because this country wasn't on the map before this shit.
	I don't even think it's Romania, bro.
	I think it's other people involved.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Not just Romania.
	I love Romania.
	United Kingdom and the United States definitely have a play in this.
	You can't bribe them.
	It's the UK that has the biggest hard-on for them, by far.
	The UK, I think, was the main country responsible for the censorship, for the complaining, and trying to get them.
	Because he was influencing the British kids.
	And again, believe all women, oh, he must be this because they said so.
	So you got the population believing these, um, you know, entitlements and all this stuff, and as well, the people themselves.
	It's almost like if, like, you can't win in this scenario.
	How do you win?
	Well, it's an information war, is what it ends up turning out to be.
	People have, like, looked at the cases and they're like, this is kind of fucking weird.
	You know?
	Has he retained his, like, popularity and, um, and he got banned off TikTok.
	That probably really ended his step.
	No, every year they ban him everywhere.
	He's hurt worse than the year before, of course.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they banned him everywhere.
	He's mainly on X now, right?
	X and Rumble.
	X and Rumble.
	Isn't it crazy?
	Tate News, this like, Tate media outlet on X, turned against him, bro.
	You saw that shit?
	What?
	They're posting bad about him the moment this next indictment came up, or next case came up.
	Well, yeah, these people acting as self-interest, man.
	It's anything for clicks, man.
	It's weird.
	He posted, I'm not a Tate Stan, I just posted about Tate News.
	That's a cat, bro.
	You posted positive Tate stuff in the past.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm like, bro, you just switched on a nigga like that.
	Like, bro, what the fuck?
	That's social media for you.
	That's literally social media for you.
	But yeah, man, um...
	So yeah, it's just fine.
	Like, they're grasping at straws.
	Like, the fact that they're saying that, oh yeah, they bought their friend's cars, and this is money laundering.
	Hide the proceeds.
	It's like, bro, okay, man.
	Alright.
	What else we got here?
	Chats?
	And then we'll close out.
	And then tune in tomorrow, guys.
	We're going to have the lovely ladies here with Haas and with Andrew.
	And Dan Bilzerian.
	And Dan Bilzerian interview will come out during the day.
	Well, Haas may not be here tomorrow, right?
	If it's not the debate, I could probably show up.
	It's with the girls.
	Yeah, I don't have to be sharp.
	Yeah, it's whatever you want.
	You don't have to shit on them if you don't want to.
	I mean, I don't have to be cognitively sharp.
	I'll bring you some booties, bro.
	Yeah.
	Thursday will be the debate.
	Did you guys see the chart that says majority of women voters care more about abortion policies and rights rather than the actual fucking economy and other important aspects of the bill tonight?
	Bro, I literally said this.
	Most of them are single-issue voters where abortion is the top of the priority and they will go ahead and put someone in office that will destroy the economy for reproductive rights.
	That's how important it is.
	I remember there was a YouTuber or TikToker and one of them asked some girls, Who would you vote for?
	And the response was insane, bro.
	And he mentioned, as well, one question about the economy and then one question about abortion.
	And if you ask them, like, they'll say, oh, I'm not voting Trump.
	And you'll ask them, well, what do you dislike about Trump?
	They can't articulate to you why.
	No, no, no.
	It's because he's a bad person.
	Yeah.
	That's the main thing.
	He's a bad person.
	He needs to be in jail.
	Orange man bad.
	I'm like pro-like.
	The Chief of Amar, did you hear about Foo Fighters endorsing Kamala Harris, the Trump campaign licensed My Hero when Trump brought out RFK? Yeah, I did hear about that.
	Dave Grawl claims they didn't get permission, but the facts say...
	What?
	Go back, go back.
	The facts say what?
	The facts say otherwise.
	Otherwise, L Foo Fighters.
	Yeah, fuck the Foo Fighters for that, bro.
	Bro, that's the problem with these musicians and celebrities, bro.
	I've lost so much respect for a lot of these guys because they're all fucking left-wing pussies, man.
	They're all social justice warriors.
	This is why you can't trust a lot of these social media influencers, man.
	You know what I thought about the music industry?
	If you want to go ahead and speak against the establishment or what's going on in the background, you're done for.
	That's why they're not political.
	And if they are, it's always to the left.
	Always, bro.
	Almost always.
	The chief here, or it'll be people that aren't relevant anymore.
	Kid Rock performed at the RNC. Bro, who listens to Kid Rock, bro?
	I've never met anyone that says they're a Kid Rock fan.
	Sorry, bro.
	And then Hulk Hogan was there.
	Come on, man.
	Hulk Hogan.
	Come on.
	I love wrestling, but it's like, and he's a legend, but like, bro, you know, I'm a real American, like, is it the 1980s?
	Nah.
	Come on, man.
	It's sad, bro.
	Yeah.
	United States government mistakenly just transferred 239 million to the Taliban?
	Wait, what?
	Mistakenly.
	Okay.
	It's a shame what Romania is doing to the states.
	All the evidence vindicates them.
	With that being said, they have to fight it out until Trump becomes president and have them cut a deal with the EU. We'll see.
	Flying Raptor.
	That's it?
	Cool.
	Guys, where can they find you guys?
	Infrahaz on X. Yeah.
	That's it.
	And you can find me on The Crucible and thecrucible.video.
	You can become a member over there for the back catalog.
	All the great debates and all the great shows that we do on The Crucible.
	And we'd love to have you over there as a member.
	We have two more here.
	Last two here.
	Daniel.
	Y'all think there will be a terrorist attack before the election?
	How do y'all think they'll cheat?
	Cyber attack?
	I don't think there'll be a terrorist attack.
	I don't know, bro.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	And then, Haz, please go on After Hours.
	We'll watch it for years.
	It would be hilarious to see you in there.
	Zerka Royals made you go on this.
	Do a stream with the triad, Infrared, Jackson, and Zerka, okay?
	Y'all think there will be...
	No, we got that one before.
	And then, word from sponsor?
	No.
	I think we're good.
	Guys, we're going to close out.
	Tomorrow night, we're going to have some other ladies on, probably around 10 p.m., I'm thinking.
	9.30, 10 p.m., after hours.
	And then we'll drop the Dan Bozain interview probably around 7.30, 8-ish.
	It's pre-recorded, so we'll drop a few guys on YouTube.
	A full version will be on Rumble.
	And guys, join Cals Club, man.
	CalsClub.tv, man.
	And also, make sure to check out Andrew and Haas.
	And we'll catch you guys in the next episode tomorrow.
	Peace.
	Peace.

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