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June 25, 2024 - Fresh & Fit
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Do Sex Workers Deserve A Good Man?! HEATED DEBATE!
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Thank you.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fresh A Podcast.
After our edition, we're joined by some lovely ladies.
Let's get into it, guys.
Let's go.
Let's go.
My money cares, bro.
Get out.
It's the night.
I'm the hot.
In the night.
No control.
F*** out.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
All right.
And we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fresh Shift Podcast.
After our edition, we'll join with six lovey ladies tonight, guys.
Before we get into it, guys, quick announcement against the show.
Rumble.com slash Fresh Shift Fit.
Check us out over there.
Also, CastleClub.tv.
Guys, check us out over there as well.
We just did a Zoom call with Andrew and Bessie.
We talked about how to get funding for your business.
So if you have no money and you need some capital, et cetera, and you want to get your business started up and you don't want to use your own money, well, you can use OPM, other people's money, through that.
We answered questions for about an hour on there, man.
So a lot of sauce on there.
A lot of the guys in there had really good questions they asked and were able to get answers to what they needed to know.
And then also, guys, as you guys know, we're going to be going to Vegas, I think, this week.
On Thursday.
On Thursday, we're going to Vegas.
I think Fresh just got the tickets.
So we're going to be doing some collabs while we're out there.
If you're a creator out there in Vegas and you've got a sizable audience, just let us know.
Well, we're Ben on Instagram.
You've got to hit us up on Instagram.
For now, for now.
I'm on X, guys.
Unplugged for X on there.
So go ahead and message me on there if you want to go ahead and do a collab and you have a sizable audience.
Breaking news also.
Julian Assange is not going to go to jail.
I was literally in a Twitter space.
We're talking about it.
Big stuff.
Maybe I'll do a FedReacts on it.
I don't know.
Because...
I've actually charged the Espionage Act when I was on the job.
We arrested somebody for selling...
This is back like 2013.
This was years ago.
It was an Iranian national.
He had military schematics for a plane and he was shipping them to Iran.
And we ended up getting him with the Espionage Act for that because he was an engineer and he had...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He worked for Rolls-Royce, all this shit.
The case is done now, so it's public.
But yeah, so I gave my opinions and takes on that.
I tweeted about it as well.
So guys, check me out on Unplugged FedEx if you guys like more political stuff.
I talk about that stuff more on there than I do on YouTube and stuff like that.
But yeah, the Assange thing is crazy.
I have a bunch of theories as to why I think they let him go or they didn't pursue charges, but that's a little too long to talk about tonight.
And he's going to Australia, right?
He's on his way to Australia right now.
That's crazy.
So yeah, he's going to plead guilty.
Or I think he's on his way to Australia.
Somebody said he was over Afghanistan, so I'm assuming he's traveling to Australia.
Yeah, so, oh, and then, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Actually, I covered the Fulio case yesterday, too.
As you guys know, he got killed on Sunday morning at, like, 4 o'clock in the morning.
At Holiday Inn.
Yeah, they killed him at a Holiday Inn in Tampa, and I broke down the case.
I explained the beef, where it stemmed from, how those shootings, why that shooting occurred, and, you know, there's been...
I'm actually shocked he popped out in person.
We brought him on the podcast.
He was very, you know...
Paranoid.
Cautious and paranoid about what he was doing, but that paranoia kept him alive.
So, you know, on his birthday, he was partying, drinking and shit.
He was drunk and got a little bit too loose, I guess, comfortable.
And then, I guess you could say he got done in.
And he don't even drink.
So that's what I think also caused issues.
But yeah, I went ahead and broke that case down as well, guys.
So you go ahead and check it out on my other YouTube channel, FedReacts.
So yeah, man, a lot of crazy stuff going on, man.
All right, people.
And then also the yacht, just so you guys know, a quick little update.
It's going to be 350 spots.
Not even 300, so 350 spots.
So we'll be able to give you guys an even better price when we go ahead and schedule it out.
It's going to be either July 28th or that first week of August, guys.
We're going to give you guys the new price points and everything else like that.
But you guys spoke, we listened.
We'll go ahead and make that yacht available to you guys.
But it's huge, man.
350 people.
We're going to have a bunch of chicks there.
A bunch of you guys from the Castle Club in there is going to be leading.
Creators as well.
Yeah.
And then Chris, go ahead.
It's Monday.
We got six new girls.
You know, we're here.
You know, Friday I get a break.
So I may turn up today.
Who knows?
But shout out to the Merch Gang.
Shout out to the chat.
Follow me on Aaron C. Pucks on IG.
And my socials will be tagged in my IG.
So I don't have to go all crazy.
Twitter, yeah, yeah.
Aaron, Pox, and C. The only Twitter that's verified.
The scammers, fuck you niggas.
Other than that, shout out to the chat, shout out to the girls.
You tweet, Chris.
I didn't see none of your tweets.
Bro, I can't follow you.
That was a waste.
I know, I know.
I do, man.
This nigga don't tweet shit.
Once a day.
He posts highlights for the show.
So someone commented that they sent you a DM, but it's blocked.
Bro, I had no idea how the fucking DMs work on Twitter, so...
They're like, is this nigga...
I didn't know it was a toggle feature, man!
Alright, fuck it, nigga.
I'm gonna turn it on, man.
So, shout out to you guys, man.
Hey, man.
I like Twitter.
Start ratioing my tweets, man.
What?
You!
Oh!
I posted a...
I posted about the yacht niggas.
They're all whores on the yacht.
What?
He raced with me.
He raced with me, man.
He got like 2,000 likes or some shit.
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah, the ratio on X, for those that are wondering, like when someone posts something and then you comment underneath it and then your comment gets more likes than it likes, it's called a ratio on Twitter.
So, you know, so that's what they call it.
Twitter lingo or whatever.
It's a friend of the four, you know?
Yeah, it is what it is.
I mean, well, okay, never mind.
We're on YouTube.
I don't want to talk about race.
Because I was going to mention who began race show a lot.
Ladies!
Ladies!
Welcome to the show.
Real Ninjas in the Chat, though.
Thank you so much.
If you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living.
Dating status.
What, of course?
Your body count.
We'll start right here, too.
Welcome to the show.
Body count.
It's a name, age, what you do for a living.
Okay, my name is Jenny.
I'm 28 years old, recently turned 28, and I own two small businesses.
I do lashes and I make sweets.
Okay, and then where are you from?
Born and raised in Miami, and my parents are Cuban and I'm engaged.
Are they still together?
Are your parents?
Yes.
You said you're engaged?
Yes.
How'd you meet your guy?
I had an odd job.
At an odd job?
Yes, at an odd job.
What's an odd job?
Booby trap?
No, not that odd.
Like, a restaurant.
Like a fast food restaurant.
World Famous Egg Rolls.
Oh, that's my shit!
Oh, that's my shit!
Where's that?
Yeah, Miami Gardens.
The Miami Gardens, the one next to the Dolphin Stadium.
Actually, there's like three of them.
Definitely Moe would know that shit, bro.
You're probably talking about the one next to the Dolphin Stadium.
Yeah, definitely not that shit, bro.
Yeah, I was there for like a year.
It was a good experience.
Welcome back!
Okay.
Highest education level completed for you?
Some college.
You have your associates?
No.
Alright, so high school is the highest completed then.
Yep.
And then, Fresh, your favorite question?
Birth control.
Do I have it on?
Are you using it?
I have one on.
There you go.
Like, next moment in my arm.
And how long have you been engaged for?
A year and a half.
A year, a year.
And how old are you again?
She's 28.
28.
So one year, and then how long y'all been together total?
Two and a half years.
Okay.
And body count?
I'm not sure.
No, you're engaged.
Don't answer the question.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not sure.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Valentina.
I'm 23 and I run my own business, Leon Marketing, LLC.com.
Okay.
Where are you from originally?
I was born in Columbia, raised in Florida.
Okay.
What part of Florida are you from originally?
Broward.
What town?
Tamarack.
I thought that was Miami-Dade.
No, that's definitely in Broward.
That's further up.
It's a little up.
But nigga, who lives in Tamarack?
She's far as hell.
What the heck?
Well, I live in Miami Beach now, but you know.
Oh, okay.
She belongs to the street.
You look familiar.
Oh, shit.
Thank you.
Yeah, of course, man.
I don't know if it's a good or bad thing, but hey.
There you go.
If he says they're familiar, it means he's seen you in a club or on a yacht or something.
No, she was on a dated show, I think.
Nah.
Actually, no, it was her.
No, it was in the middle.
Club.
I don't really club like that.
I used to yacht a lot back in my day.
Red flag, red flag, red flag!
Back in my day.
My days are over.
Wait, 23?
Is it over already?
Damn!
I'm very well behaved, okay?
It's my own business.
I got my shit together.
I'm not going to say I didn't.
You said you have a marketing business.
What's your highest education level completed?
Associates in finance.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
I am dating.
Yeah, you're flucking.
No, no.
I'm in a relationship for sure.
Oh, you are in a relationship.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
How long have you been together?
Seven months.
How'd you guys meet?
My job.
Okay, marketing.
Yeah, blowjobs.
No!
So you said you run your business, your marketing agency.
How did you run into him?
Was he like a client or something?
No, prior to this I was working at a marketing agency, and he sets appointments, brings in the money, and I was like, hey, what's up?
Okay, all right.
So you met him through there, and then you branched up on your own and started your own marketing business?
Yes, I did.
Okay.
And you all been together for seven months?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
My father has passed away.
Okay.
So your mom is widowed?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, and then, uh, birth control for you?
IUD. Okay, so yes.
Go home, go home.
All right, and you're Colombian, you said, ethnicity-wise?
Yeah.
All right, cool.
What about you?
Uh, my name is Coco.
Hey, y'all!
I am 31.
I'm an executive assistant.
Damn!
Executive assistant, you said?
Yes.
Okay.
Where are you from originally?
Born in Virginia, raised in Brooklyn, now I live in Miami.
Where'd you go to high school, in Virginia or in Brooklyn?
Virginia.
Okay, what part of VA? Fairfax.
Okay, right outside of DC. Yep.
Okay.
How do you know that area?
Me?
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of people live in Fairfax that are government employees.
He's right.
She's not far from Langley either.
Yeah.
She's right next to CIA headquarters and NSA and all that shit.
Sure am.
FBI, open up!
What do you do for work?
Oh no, you said executive assistant.
Highest education level completed?
High school diploma.
Okay.
And then relationship status for you?
Single!
Wait, why about the dating show?
What happened?
Oh, I mean, he cool.
But he ain't the one, huh?
Nah, I mean, like, we're friends.
We for sure, like, messaged me and I was following him.
We're friends, though.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold up a minute.
You're telling me that you're friends with that nigga?
Damn!
I mean, yeah.
I tried to set it up, but I guess not.
So it wasn't a fresh match.
It was a friend match.
It was here.
Our antennas were here, but here it wasn't here.
Energy wasn't right off screen.
I knew it wasn't going to work out.
I mean, to be fair, he's in here, right?
No, I have my tattoo, my first tattoo.
His name is Hader, and it's Pakistan, and I still have it on my back.
Hader?
Yeah, Hader.
I call him Hader, but it's Hader, but yeah, whatever.
He's gone now, so I mean...
No, he's here, but somewhere in Virginia.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
I don't know.
No?
Birth control for you?
Condoms!
So that's a no.
And then what's your ethnic background?
Oh, so much.
Black, Korean, Swedish, Scottish, Russian.
Yes, I'm actually 12% Korean.
Wait, how many parents- Is that from Ancestry and me?
That told you that?
Well, no.
My mother, she kind of told me that.
Yeah, and Ancestry.
So who's full black?
Your mom or your dad?
My dad.
And then your mom is what?
She's Creole and Korean.
Okay.
So she's half Haitian, half Korean.
No, no, no.
Louisiana, Creole.
Yeah, Louisiana, Creole.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
So she's black and Korean.
Yes.
It's kind of like...
Like half and half?
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
What about you?
What's your name?
Hi, I'm Crystal.
Crystal?
I'm 33.
Okay.
Damn.
Where are you from?
Really?
Really?
I'm from Florida, but I'm Puerto Rican.
You look so familiar.
I was on the dating show.
With my cousin.
Yeah.
There you go.
Wait, hold on.
I gotta know.
What happened after that?
I mean, I was a fill-in for the dating show.
It was great.
It was fun, but, you know, it was just an experience.
What part of Florida are you from?
West Palm.
I currently reside in Port St.
Lucie.
Okay.
Far as hell.
Goddamn.
Very far.
See, I traveled two hours to be here.
We appreciate that.
Okay, appreciate that.
What do you do for it?
So I'm an entrepreneur.
I own the number one salon in my city.
I also have a studio location.
I have my storefront in Port St.
Lucie, my studio location in Palm Beach Gardens.
Okay, so you have a hair salon in West Palm and in Port St.
Lucie.
Correct, but it's not a hair salon.
We do aesthetics, so we have injectables, Botox, lashes, brows, makeup.
Okay, so it's all beauty stuff.
All beauty stuff, yeah.
So it's a beauty salon.
Just no hair.
Just no hair.
Yeah.
Okay, and that is, you have a West Palm Beach and a Porn St.
Lucie, and it's the most popular one in Porn St.
Lucie.
Correct, face wardrobe.
We won the top salon award, and I also won the top brow specialist award.
Okay.
Well, to be fair, that's a small place.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I've only been there one year.
I've been in Puerto Rico one year.
My Palm Beach Gardens location has existed for five years, so my studio location actually pays for my storefront.
I've been a decade in my industry, so I'm pretty proud of that.
Highest education level completed for you, I'm assuming.
Did you go to like esthetician school or something?
Yeah, I mean, I went to college.
I thought I was gonna do graphic design, but...
You got your bachelor's?
I got, no.
I ended up doing my, like going to trade school, so I'm a licensed cosmetologist.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
And, um, relationship status?
I'm single.
Was that a decade too?
No.
Are your parents still together?
They are not, unfortunately.
No?
Okay.
And then birth control for you?
No birth control.
I'm a proud mother of four beautiful babies.
Four kids?
I have two teenagers and a six-year-old and a two-year-old.
Yes, sir.
Wait, you're Puerto Rican, right?
I'm Puerto Rican.
You don't believe in abortion.
They get pregnant like this, bro.
I don't believe in abortion, okay?
I'm going to raise my babies.
This is why Puerto Ricans I stay away from, man.
I'm telling you, bro.
Okay.
Man, she's a factory, man.
Okay.
And you said you got two...
How old's your oldest?
He's 14.
I have 14, 13, 16.
So she had him when she was 19.
Yep, exactly.
She had him when she was 19.
Yes.
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
That's not terrible.
I'd be punching air right now, man.
Shut up!
All right, what about you?
Hi, my name is Tamara.
Hey, y'all!
How old are you?
I am 30.
Okay, where are you from?
I'm actually from Florida.
What part of Florida?
I live in Port St.
Lucie right now.
Okay.
Are you guys friends?
We are.
Yes, we are.
We work together.
All right.
What do you do for work?
Oh, you work for her?
License, yes.
License, well, cosmetologist.
I have my degree in fashion design.
I went to school for four years for that.
And then I went to cosmetology school for beauty.
You said fashion design?
Yes.
Where'd you get your degree from?
Actually from Miami, the Art and Design University.
Sorry, the Art and Design University here in Miami.
It's in the city?
Yes, it's here.
It's downtown.
Wait, Art Institute?
Yeah, I was going to say, Chris, that's your school, right?
Yeah, I went there.
It's legit.
Okay, relationship status for you?
I am divorced.
I'm single right now.
How long have you been divorced for?
Two and a half years.
If I may ask, why are you divorced?
What causes it to happen?
A lot, but just basically we grew apart, and I wanted to just have a fresh start.
I was with him since I was 21, so, you know.
So you wanted to just get away?
Yeah, I didn't have any kids with him, thank God.
You know, I moved to Florida last year, back to Florida.
Where were y'all at when you guys were together?
In Atlanta.
Okay.
Was he black?
Yes.
F that nigga.
I guess you just wanted a fresh start.
It wasn't like anything he did wrong.
You just was like, hey, I'm not interested anymore.
No, it was just dealing with somebody that you grew with and you've seen how they are when they don't have money.
You see how they are when they do have money.
You see how they are when they're sad, up, down, depressed.
I just didn't want to deal with that person anymore and I felt like I had a lot of opportunity just to kind of like Move away and start fresh in my life.
We had some troubles and ultimately I just couldn't do it anymore.
Good for you.
How long were you guys together before you divorced?
Was it six, seven years?
Seven years.
Okay, that's on average.
So there's a saying, or a vowel, that says, till death do us part.
You just said I'm bored and left.
No, I wasn't bored.
I just was done.
You fed up with it, right?
It's the same shit, bro.
I got you.
Okay.
She had enough, man.
Seven years.
All right.
Birth control for you?
No.
No?
Okay.
And what's your ethnic background?
Black or white?
Black and Dominican.
Okay.
Oh yeah, she's crazy.
Dominican?
Oh yeah.
She's black twice.
I'm telling you, man.
When did you graduate?
College.
2014 for fashion design, and then 2016 for cosmetology.
Okay.
So when I left, you just came.
Gotcha.
Yeah, because I graduated in 2010.
Chris is an old ass nigga, bro.
Chris is an old ass nigga, bro.
He's older than us?
Yeah.
You didn't know that?
I'm 36.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
What the fuck?
I just look young, man.
I hardly see him in the studio anymore, you know?
I hardly see him.
Come on, man.
That's a shitty excuse, bro.
That's a shitty excuse, bro.
That's a shitty excuse, man.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Kiara.
I'm 32.
Okay, where are you from?
Puerto Rico.
Okay, we got the Puerto Ricans in the house.
You got kids too, huh?
Yeah, I do.
What part of Puerto Rico are you from?
She got kids, bro!
I'm telling you, man!
I told you you don't believe in abortions, bro.
Damn!
What part of Puerto Rico are you from?
I am from the west side, Sabana Grande originally, but I moved to the city like seven years ago.
Dímelo, Porigua!
Wait, when you said you moved to the city, are you talking about moving to Miami or moving to...
No, moving to San Juan, Puerto Rico, like the city over there, yeah.
Okay.
What's the gun violence like over there, man?
I hear it's pretty bad.
Yeah, it is.
It's crazy.
It's getting crazy.
I don't know.
Fun fact, they almost sent me to Puerto Rico as my first duty station.
I got lucked out.
Miami's way better.
No, no, no.
They sent me to Laredo instead.
They were going to send me to Puerto Rico first.
You know, Puerto Rico's so dangerous, FBI and DEA agents get hazard pay for being there.
Wow.
It's kind of boring, though.
That's how bad it is.
It's kind of boring, though.
Because they have a really bad gun problem there with the switches and shit.
Really bad.
But anyway, yeah.
Fun fact about Puerto Rico.
Do you hear gunshots?
Well, you probably live in a safe neighborhood, I'm guessing.
No, I live in a college town, and I do hear gunshots.
A college town?
Yeah, it's like a college town.
That's where the main university is there.
I think it's fireworks and shit.
Yeah, you can't really tell, but I'm used to it.
What are we celebrating tonight?
There's also a lot of drug smuggling there, too.
Because if you make it into Puerto Rico safely, you don't got to deal with customs again.
A lot of the Dominican and the Colombian drug trafficking organizations get it to Puerto Rico as best they can.
Because if you clear Puerto Rico, you're good.
You don't got to deal with customs ever again.
Alright, so besides being in that crime-ridden island, what else?
You said you do for work.
You're a hairstylist?
No, I'm an operations manager in a flooring company.
At a flooring?
Yeah, like we sell vinyl flooring.
Okay, operations manager for a flooring company.
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright, so if someone wants vinyl or something like that, hey, I need to redo my floors, they contact you guys.
They'll wake me up, yeah.
Okay.
Highest education level completed?
I'm a bachelor's.
I'm currently pursuing my master's.
I have a bachelor in business administration.
Okay, where'd you get that from?
It's the Universidad Ana Jimenez.
I don't think you've heard of it.
It's in Puerto Rico, I'm guessing?
Yeah, we have a campus here in Orlando, too.
Okay, Ana Jimenez.
And then you're pursuing your master's in what?
In human resources.
Okay.
And where are you going?
Yeah, at least you know.
Where are you getting your master's from?
Same university, but it's online, Orlando campus.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Relationship status for you?
I have a boyfriend.
Okay.
How long have you been together?
It's going to be a year in August.
Okay.
Is he in Puerto Rico too?
Yes.
Okay.
So you're just here on vacation then?
Yeah, I came for a Blink-182 concert on Friday.
Blink-182?
Blink-182?
That is so light.
Bro, what year is this?
Bro, what the hell?
She was trying to see Kourtney Kardashian, okay?
Relax.
Hey, yo.
Blink-182?
Blink-182?
I think she got her two-way beeper on right now.
Yo!
You don't start raising that one, huh?
Literally.
Like, 182?
Yeah, it's a reunion tour, yeah.
Wait, so you didn't bring a boyfriend?
No, he's back home.
Is it your baby daddy?
No.
Oh, it's somebody else?
Yeah.
He likes reggaeton only, man.
Bad Bunny!
All right, so one year.
Okay, are your parents still together?
Nope.
Okay, and birth control are you?
Yes.
Okay.
How many kids you got?
Just one.
Okay.
She said, no more nigga.
Wait, who else is a mom?
Did I miss anybody?
Me.
One, two.
Okay, so how many kids do you have?
One.
Okay.
Is it with the guy you're engaged to?
No, the guy previously.
Okay.
So we got three moms on the panel, if I'm not mistaken, right?
Three?
Okay.
What are you going to say?
He's a stepdad, right?
He's a stepdad.
My current fiance is her stepdad.
Wait, so raise your hand if you got stepdads watching your kids right now.
My daughter's with her daddy.
No, I mean like in general, like a guy dating you and it's not their kids.
Oh, two.
I think two.
Okay.
And then she's single, so you and the baby daddy are done, I guess.
I mean, we co-parent.
We have a healthy relationship.
He's probably in Port St.
Lucie, too?
No, he's actually from Lakeland, but he's a truck driver, so he's all over.
So we can read some of the chats, and then we do got a video to play and some questions to ask, which actually, Mo, I think it might work with this panel.
Yeah.
Okay, we'll go through the chats first.
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You find out he is cheating on you, but he takes care of everything in your life and you never have to work again.
You have two choices.
Stay with him forever regardless of the infidelity or break up with him, but you can only get into a relationship with a guy you have in the friend zone and you cannot break up with him.
What are you going to do and why?
That's very specific.
Okay, let me...
That is very specific.
So, it's two...
Okay.
Okay.
Multi-millionaire guy, find out he's cheating on you, but he takes care of everything in your life.
You don't got to work.
Yeah.
You have two choices.
Stay with him forever.
Or break up.
Or break up with him, but you can only get into a relationship with a guy you have in the friend zone, and you can't break up with him.
So what are you going to do, ladies?
Are you going to stick with the rich guy, or are you going to go with your friend zone buddy?
I'll stick with the rich guy.
I'm not going with my friend zone friend.
Okay, what about you?
Depends if we have kids.
Like, if we have kids and he cheated on me, I don't know.
I'm gonna be like, I don't want this example to be toward children because you shouldn't take this if you're a girl.
So you would leave if you had kids?
Wouldn't it make more sense to stay if you've got kids?
Yeah, I would actually.
Because then they won't have a dad.
They would at some point.
In their actual home.
No, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Yeah, so what would you do?
You know what, I'm going to redact that.
So if I had kids and he cheated, then I'm stuck with that man.
But if I didn't have kids and he cheated, I'd be like, peace out.
Sounds good on paper.
Everything sounds good on paper.
That's true.
Alright, what about you?
I'm leaving.
I'm sorry.
Friendzone guy?
I'm going with the friendzone guy.
The friendzone guy will take care of me.
Well, you couldn't even last with this friendzone.
Okay, hold on.
I just met him.
I didn't even know that guy.
He doesn't even count as a friendzone.
He's just a friend.
Yeah, but he's friendzoned.
That's the point.
Not for now, but if this guy is out here cheating on me and I have my literal best friend, I'm like, okay, you know what?
It didn't work out with this guy who's cheating on me.
Let me try it with my best friend.
You should marry your best friend.
You should pay all the bills to incur you still.
I'm a working girl.
Okay, not like that.
I said that wrong.
I said that wrong.
But I've been working since I was 16 years old and I have no problem taking care of myself.
Okay, independent.
Always.
What about you?
I don't like this question.
It's very specific, Anna.
So specific.
I mean, at the end of the day, you gotta have grace for people, right?
I feel like sometimes good people make bad decisions and, okay, they cheat, right?
I would probably stick with the provider at the end of the day and forgive him.
The only thing I hate about the question is once you cheat and forgive a person, it kind of opens the door to them thinking that they can get away with it over and over again.
But just for the sake of answering the question, because I feel like it's a complicated question, I'm going to stick with the one that's providing for me rather than running to a friend.
Okay.
What about you?
Same.
I would definitely stick with the guy that is already providing for me because I already know that devil in a way.
Instead of going to somebody else that...
You said you already know that devil.
Did your ex cheat on you?
No, we didn't have cheating problems.
We just had a lot of...
It was COVID. I lost my baby.
It was all kind of so good.
Code word.
Okay.
COVID. No, I mean, it's fine.
I mean, it's not as bad now.
I actually kind of...
Sorry, you were going to say it?
Go ahead.
Nothing.
Nothing?
Nothing.
Okay.
But, yeah, I would definitely stick it out with the person that I already know and I'm familiar with.
Okay.
Was he a provider or did you work when you were with him or no?
Yes, we both worked.
Did you guys share the bills 50-50 or did he pay the bills?
He paid all of the bills.
He paid all of them?
I paid like, you know, certain bills.
So you worked electively.
You didn't have to if you didn't want to.
Right.
Oh, sorry.
I didn't have to if I truly didn't want to.
Yeah, if you didn't want to, he would have been fine with taking care of you.
Did he cook at all?
Yeah, cooked a lot.
I'm actually a great cook.
I can tell.
It was great.
Thanks.
What does he do for a living, your ex?
Well, when we were together, he has a dump truck business, so he was doing and hauling rocks and sand and stuff like that.
And then also he had an alarming company, so he basically replaced the fire extinguishers and stuff at different businesses, malls.
So that was his main thing.
I'm just really curious, what could he have done to keep you there still?
Anything at all?
Yeah, good question.
Because seven years is a long time.
I know.
I don't know.
He was like my best friend.
We were very close.
It wasn't like, we're still cool now.
We're good.
But I just felt like I mowed my whole life to be with this person.
And I needed to find myself and actually be the person that God put me on this earth to be.
And not deal with all of his stuff that comes with him, even though you're a provider, you know.
Speaking of the weight of burden, though, I mean, it goes both ways, you know?
Well, I wasn't a burden, I don't think, to him as much as he was a burden to me.
Like, I was the wife, but, like, I did everything.
He was, like, a big little kid, so it was just hard.
He was a kid at heart.
Yeah, very immature.
Did he pay bills?
He did.
I paid the bills, but, like, yeah, he provided the money for the bills, meaning, like, he wasn't as responsible as he should have been.
So he paid the bills.
So I was...
So you were making the payments on time, making sure everything was...
Right, that's what I mean.
Like, I kept the house in order while he just made the money.
Yeah, he gave you the money.
Yeah.
Exactly.
He gave you the money and then you should do, you know, pay the bills and shit.
Right.
That's what I did.
Okay.
So he paid the bills.
He paid the bills and I paid the bills too.
Come on.
Put in numbers.
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
Yeah.
I'll stay with him.
Rich guy?
Yeah.
Okay, simple.
Okay, so I got a question for the ladies.
What are your thoughts on women in sex work?
Ooh.
Start here with Ms.
Puerto Rico.
You can give us your true take on it, whatever you want to say.
I mean, to each his own, but I think that the quality of guys that you're going to be able to date, it's going to go down.
I don't...
I don't know, like I said, Twitch is on, but I don't fuck with that.
Like, I think they don't have no self-respect.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, so quality men goes down, don't condone it.
Yeah, I think that, yeah, like, your value as a woman is gonna just keep going down, and you're gonna end up dating a simp, because that's the only person who would put up with...
Missogony!
She keeping it.
Alright, Twitch.
100%.
How dare you?
All the Twitch people, come on over to YouTuber Rumble.
We gotta switch over because we said Sim.
It's okay, don't worry about it.
Okay, it's cool.
Don't worry about it.
Alright, what about you?
What are your thoughts?
It's interesting because we don't have any sex workers on the panel.
Or do we?
No, we don't.
Coco I mean you never know bro Oh shit You said Coco Nah she never know Come on Coco That name Hmm What the hell Chris come on man Come on I'll go her name Coco She says she's not doing it She's an executive assistant bro We'll give her that At least for now What about you That's fine to title Me Um I don't think that That would be the best option Coming from the perspective as a wife You would want to be a wife.
You would want to be with A provider, so if you're already basically messing up your life before that opportunity, I just don't think that that's the right way to go.
Would you be friends with sex workers?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I lived in Atlanta, so stripper city.
That's true.
And they love pretty girls, so I would be cool with them, but I don't participate in their lifestyle.
Were you okay with them being around your man?
If I'm there.
We can go together.
Okay.
So you don't approve because you think women are messing up their lives?
If they know what they're doing, I don't know if they're messing up their lives, but I just feel like the lifestyle is only so far you can get with it.
Especially if you're trying to, like I said, be a wife and be somebody that is with a provider.
Okay, so it messes up your chances to get with a provider.
Okay.
That's your take on it.
Okay, what about you?
Yeah, I'm against it.
You're against it?
Why are you against it?
I just feel like women have more to offer than just that.
And I mean, I'm raising daughters, so I would never want them to think it's okay to sell yourself for that.
So as someone that didn't go down that route, would you say, like, it is damaging to women as a whole?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It plays with your self-confidence, your self-worth, you know?
I'm tired.
Like, I just feel like we live in a world now where men truly think all women are is just pussy.
And it's...
Yeah, they are.
They're not wrong, though.
She said it.
The majority.
She said it.
Well, yeah.
A majority.
A majority.
But I just feel like...
I mean, the women are at fault for that because they, you know...
You guys know, and I gotta say nothing to you.
But yeah, I'm against it.
It's not something that I would really promote.
So you're against it because it, I guess, it kind of muddies the waters for other women to be taken seriously.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
You were going to say something, Chris?
Yeah, question.
The majority of your clients, are there sex workers?
Some of my clients?
Yeah, the majority.
No, absolutely not.
I mean, I started my business in Palm Beach Gardens.
I don't know if you guys know that area, but a lot of the clients that I take are very affluential women, Trump supporters.
Pretty wealthy.
Yeah, they're pretty wealthy.
I mean, I just gravitate towards that type of, yeah.
You know what, bro?
The husband's paying for everything, so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can I tell you something, though?
She's smart.
That's why she don't need it.
That's why she don't do hair, nigga.
That's why she don't do hair, nigga.
That's all coming together now.
That's why she don't do hair.
I was thinking in my head like, why don't you do hair?
But there's no need.
There's no need.
There's no need.
No wigs.
Smart, bro.
No, she's like, just give me a carry.
Just give me a carry.
Nobody.
No charging bucks.
He's heavy on the no charging.
Yeah, no fucking arguing about the price.
I got a score.
That's refund.
No EBT cards.
No EBT cards.
Yeah, but I don't do hair, so...
You eliminate a lot of headaches when you don't do her hair.
You really do.
You eliminate almost an entire class of people, too.
I see what she did there.
What about you, Coco?
What are your thoughts on sex work?
Okay, I'm gonna keep it a buck.
To each their own.
To each their own.
During the pandemic, I did have an OnlyFans.
I knew it!
It was solo.
Oh, you put that noise on me crazy.
It was solo, but now that I moved to Miami, all the OnlyFans workers there are way more progressive than I am.
So I called it quits.
That's a nice term for it.
I keep it solo.
So you did a solo, and then you moved to Miami, and then you just saw how far...
They're willing to go here.
Exactly.
And I was like, I'm not really trying to go that far.
I didn't think we was going that far.
So I was like, hey.
So like, I'm not gonna, it's still up, but like, you want to see my butt?
Like, okay.
Oh, so you're a fellow sex worker now?
Yeah, I guess ex-sex worker.
Yeah, you failed, yeah.
Yeah, you sucked at it.
I didn't fail, I just didn't want to go full.
Yeah, you sucked at it.
Or you could say, I didn't suck at it.
Oh, yeah, I see what you did there.
That was good.
That was creative.
That was very creative.
All right.
Okay.
Alright, so what are your thoughts on it in general?
So you talked about your experience with it.
You didn't want to go all the way.
So what are your thoughts on it in general then after being in that world for a bit?
How long did you do it before?
Well, you're still in it, I guess.
It was literally only during the pandemic.
I moved here about two and a half years ago, and like I said, I realized what was going on.
I was like, hey, to each their own, but I'm just not going to go that route.
So you started when you were in Virginia?
No, Brooklyn.
Okay, you were in New York City?
Yeah, I was in Brooklyn during the pandemic, yeah.
Okay.
Okay, W for honesty.
Okay.
Okay.
So I guess it's not for you?
It's not for me, but I'm friends with sex workers.
I don't care.
To each their own.
But yeah, I'm just progressed past that.
And I have a very nice position that I don't want to give up.
Position?
Like missionary?
Does your current employer know?
They used to do it, or no?
I'm sure he does, and he doesn't care.
Okay.
Well, he gonna know now.
I don't care.
Hey, Coco.
Okay.
Hey, boss.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I would say I'm against it.
Okay.
Why you're against it?
It brings your value down as a woman, and I wouldn't want my family or children to see me like that.
Okay.
Would you say the reason it brings your value down is because other people can see?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
So the optics of it is what messes it up.
Exactly.
Okay.
What if a girl acts wild and private?
That's fine.
What stays in bed, stays in bed.
You know what's crazy?
So as long as you're on a yacht, nobody knows.
What are you acting wild with?
This is a more, I want to say abstract thought, but like...
Think about this.
Think about this.
If you understand how the real world works and what happens outside, the girls that are more quiet, more reserved sometimes, are sometimes the worst when it comes to sex and smashing dudes.
And they never get checked.
Versus the sex workers, sometimes they get checked.
So it's kind of like a different look at it.
So you're not opposed to girls being promiscuous.
You're just opposed to girls doing it on the internet for others to see.
Well, like, if you do whatever you want to with your man, and you guys are alone and private, and that stays in there.
Okay.
Yeah, that's fine.
Because you know what's crazy?
I know guys that would wife a chick that's been a hole, but no one knows about it.
But if she's OnlyFans, it's like, hell no.
Yeah.
Because they can see it.
But that guy was way worse, that was quiet, than the OnlyFans girl.
Yeah.
Which is wild.
Okay, so you're against it.
So I'm just trying to figure out why you're against it.
So you're against it because people can see it.
Well, whatever I do, I want myself to be proud of it and my family to be proud of it.
And if I did sex work, that's not something that my family or children would be proud of.
Okay, because it's out there publicly.
Exactly.
But what if a girl...
Because you mentioned you had your fun when you were younger, right?
Not that.
Hold on.
Wait a second.
Okay.
Well, what about if a girl's partying and doing all this other stuff, but it's not our OnlyFans, and she's hooking up with guys and everything.
Do you oppose that as well, or are you just more along the lines of, I don't agree with it if it's out there in public?
I am not putting my titties or ass in the public view for people to give me money for it.
So it's the publicity that you dislike?
Yeah, sure.
So I'm going to give you a little insider info here.
So on the yacht, the first hour, you can record.
After the first hour, you can't record.
I'm going to just leave that there.
Wait, what?
So, get what I'm saying?
On the yacht...
You can record for the first hour.
Was that like the rule by the person that had the yacht?
Yes!
After the first hour, you can't record for obvious reasons.
You know what I'm saying?
It goes on the boat, by the way.
Just so you know.
There were?
Yeah.
You were correct, sir.
Your rage showed a comment on Twitter.
Oh, that there were wars?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, fantastic.
Well, I knew.
I figured.
Hey, man.
We love wars, man.
What about you?
So I'm an entrepreneur.
I don't think it's wrong.
Can you spell entrepreneur?
E-N-T-R-E-P-U-E. Entrepreneur.
No, she can't!
No, I can't.
I've been here two hours.
Too many drinks.
That's a good excuse.
But yeah, as a businesswoman, if you have the balls to do it...
Balls?
Balls.
Literally balls.
Cajones!
You should go ahead and do it.
I'm not against...
Okay, so you're not against it.
At all.
If you think of a girl has the ability to do it, she should do it.
Yeah, if you have no shame, you should take advantage of that.
Because most women have shame.
Right?
That's a new one.
Yeah.
If you have no shame, take advantage of that.
I've never heard that before.
I mean, that's a funny one.
I mean, what keeps women from doing that, it's like shame and people knowing.
Morality, shame.
But if you have no shame, then you have no problem.
Do you think shame is a good thing then?
Yes.
Of course.
So wouldn't it be bad if they lack the shame?
Yeah, but they're making the money, so...
I think so.
Is it worth selling your soul?
For some change?
No, I think it's better to sell your book.
What?
Than your soul?
That's the same thing, basically.
Okay.
I'm just not against women making their money if they're willing to put in the work because it's a lot of work.
For $4.99, I'll sell you my butthole.
Better than my soul though, okay?
What's up?
I'm 19 and I live in Miami, Coral Gables.
I've never donated, but after all these years and taking Yale advice since 2022, I finally got my money UPPPP. Now I can donate to WFNF55FlexBiceps.SkinTone.
Make sure you're in Cow's Club, Ninja.
Money Mondays, bro.
Appreciate that.
So that's okay.
So for you, if you don't got the shame, take advantage of that.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
I mean, there's other things you can do, though.
I don't know.
What the fuck?
I just give them a lot of credit.
Of doing what?
Because it's hard work.
It's not hard work.
No, it's not hard at all.
Okay, well, you said you're a mom.
What if your child said, hey, I want to do OnlyFans?
Um, when she starts having sex and she's like overage, then...
Yeah, let's say she's 18 and she's like, mom, it's my birthday.
Besides buying a cigarette.
I raised a terrible child if that's what she wants for.
No, I'd be like, if that's what you want to do, your kids are going to see that.
But, you know, if she wants to?
You let her.
If she is not embarrassed that her dad is going to see it, then...
Or her mom.
I'm not against that.
All right.
Interesting.
I just think everyone deserves tonight.
Hey man, she got a stepdad.
She ain't listening to him.
Yo.
You better step down.
Come on, man.
All right, so I guess that goes into my second question.
Is sex work something you would recommend to women?
Yes or no?
No.
I wouldn't recommend it.
How dare you?
I don't think it's easy.
She's saying if the balls are there, grab them.
But if the balls aren't there, you have them.
I wouldn't say doing porn is an easy way to go.
Everyone literally thinks you're a piece of shit.
Or like a whore bag.
To be correct, cum dumpster.
Exactly.
Alright, what about you?
No.
No.
There's so many other ways to make money nowadays.
Okay.
What about you?
I don't care what a man woulda does.
Yeah, we know Coco.
No, but the question is, is sex work something you recommend to other women?
Oh, to other women?
No.
No, I wouldn't.
No?
No.
Okay.
What about you?
Definitely not.
No?
Okay.
What about you?
No.
Partico?
No.
Damn, who hurt these girls?
Okay, here's a question.
How would you feel if a close friend of yours wanted to do sex work?
We'll start with Puerto Rico.
I have, well, I used to have friends that do sex work.
I'm just not friends with them anymore.
Oh, you literally, did you, like, try to tell them, like, warn them, like, don't do it?
No, they can do what they want, but, like, I have a boyfriend.
I don't want, like, close friends.
Okay, that's why.
I think that speaks of yourself, the type of friends you have.
So I can't be talking down on them and then having them as fine friends.
That's real.
Did you cut them off because you don't share their values or did you cut them off because you have a boyfriend now and you didn't want them to maybe...
It's like a combination of the two.
I cut them off when I started watching this show, actually.
You cut them off when you started watching our show?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Yeah, I've said it.
Like, when I did, I interacted with you guys here like I'm a fan.
Okay.
That explains.
How'd you find a show?
A supporter.
Through a man, actually.
Makes sense.
All right.
Fair enough.
She got a guy now, so it's working.
Yeah.
Okay, lit.
Blink 182.
Literally.
Alright, what about you?
Um, hopefully not.
I mean, I have guy friends that have, that do it, but I'm not...
Wait, what?
Like, you asked if...
Yeah, how'd you feel if a close friend wanted to start doing sex work?
Like, guy close friends I know that do it.
Okay.
What, did you tell them anything, or you said whatever?
No, they ask me, like, oh, do you want to, like, join?
And I'm like, no.
Oh, okay.
But, you know, I don't...
Them niggas don't do sex work.
They just want to smash.
No, they have a whole, like, channel and all that stuff that they do what they do.
Wait a minute.
They have OnlyFans.
Like, they do, you know, all kinds of stuff.
Are they gay?
No, they're not gay.
They have their own separate...
I have two guy friends that do OnlyFans, right?
Okay, that's different.
Most dudes on OnlyFans make zero money, though, unless they're doing gay stuff.
No, but they're not doing gay stuff.
They get guests, which is different girls.
They do different things with...
Are these niggas famous?
Their channels are pretty poppin', I mean...
Can you tell us one?
I don't know their name, honestly.
What kind of front are you?
Because I don't have an OnlyFans, so I don't get on it.
I don't want to see it.
Yeah, but you should know their real names.
Like, what are their names?
But I know their real names.
I'm not going to put them out there like that.
You should, man.
Yo, did you ever say yes?
BBW Takedown by BBC. Oh, my God.
That's the category, man.
Big enough of you.
Dirk told us, remember?
So what about your female friends?
That's kind of more what I was angling at.
Nobody cares if dudes do sex work, to be honest.
That's kind of gay.
If your girlfriend wanted to do it, what would you say?
Definitely not.
You would tell her don't do it?
Yeah, definitely not.
That's something that anybody can pull up.
There's even teachers getting fired for having OnlyFans, police, cops, all kinds of stuff.
That's true.
So it follows you wherever you go.
So I just don't think that would be why.
Okay.
What would you tell your female friend if she said, hey, I want to do OnlyFans or I want to be a stripper or do some kind of sex work?
Me?
Me?
No, no, no.
I'm asking her.
Or I want to be a sugar baby or some shit.
Any kind of sex work.
I'm a little biased towards this question because I was raised by my father and my mom actually was a stripper.
Oh, shit.
And she actually did porn.
Okay.
So I feel a way about that.
How'd you find out?
How did I find out?
My dad kind of revealed it to us.
Damn.
Wait, who had custody?
Did your father have primary custody?
Yeah, my father raised me and my sister.
Oh.
My dad has raised every single child that has ever been in his household.
Like, he's had wives that have had kids, and he just steps up and raises those kids.
I respect my dad, like, wholeheartedly.
He's a real stepdad.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah.
Well, no, no, no.
It's her biological father.
My biological father.
It's her biological father.
No, my biological father raised me.
Wait, what about the other kids?
Yeah, he's saying he's been remarried after my mom.
All from him?
All from him.
He's raised- Yeah, so she has stepbrothers and sisters, but her father was a biological father in all of them.
And in all those failed relationships, he always took custody of the kids.
Damn, what kind of women does he get out with, bro?
Well, no.
My dad has married a lot of women from third world countries, and what I'm saying is they've had kids, younger kids.
He'll come in and take over and play the dad role.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm a little biased towards that question.
I would offer them a job before encouraging them to do that.
Yeah.
I met my mom when I was 14 on MySpace.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry, y'all.
What's your mom's name?
No.
Did you know about your mom's past when you met her at 14 already or you didn't know?
I had known that she was a stripper.
Okay.
And I had actually snuck into my dad's room at one point and was like digging around to...
I wanted to know more about my mom because it was something he never really talked about and I ended up finding a tape of her.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
VHS? Wait, was it with your dad?
No, no, no, absolutely not.
She was on the cover and shit, man.
He just had that shit as evidence to get custody of her.
Can you imagine being a kid?
I'm going to look around my dad's room.
Oh my God!
That's my mom!
Wait, so, uh, question.
What kind of content she was doing?
I'm joking, I'm joking.
No, it was very X-rated content.
Like, uh, trains?
Chris.
No, it's regular.
Male and regular porn.
I'm just curious, man.
Wait, hold on.
You want to find out her name, Chris?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's her name?
Sage's name.
I think her stage name was Vanessa.
No!
I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.
Vanessa what?
I'm not kidding.
What?
What the heck?
Damn.
What?
What the heck?
Research, man!
Research?
Okay.
What the fuck, man?
What the fuck, man?
Chris, what's wrong with you, man?
Keep going, man, let's go.
Okay, um...
All right.
Because it takes a lot for a father to get sole custody of his kids.
So that's why I was like, like your mom must have really been, you know, really messing up.
No maternal bone in her body.
Okay.
So you met her when you were 14 and you had known what she was involved in prior to meeting her.
Correct.
Okay.
So knowing that, what made you still, I mean, just curiosity, I guess, made you want to meet her?
So I still had like a longing for my mom like when you grow up without a parent you almost fantasize about like what it would be like to have a mom and so when I finally met her like I had to go and see like y'all are funny.
That's amazing.
That's so good.
All right, Chris, let it finish.
Shout them on a lot, man.
Okay, all right, go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, I had to give her the benefit of the doubt, you know?
And so when she met me at 14, I was living in Florida.
She was living in Kansas at the time.
I actually ran away from home.
She bought me a plane ticket, and I hopped on the plane to go meet her.
Yeah.
What did your dad say when you run away?
So I was living with my aunt at the time because my dad...
I'm a 90s baby.
My dad believed in corporal punishment.
He was a BRS, okay?
And I just kind of got tired of that.
So I was living with an aunt at the time.
And I wasn't really happy there.
And so when my mom found me, I was like, that's my mom.
Like, I'm gonna go meet her.
And I mean, it was, I regret, like, leaving Florida to go meet my mom because it didn't end up well.
She was very, like, she thought I was the three-year-old that she had left behind.
So she was very, like, verbally abusive.
So I fought my way out of her custody because I'm the type of person, like, I stand up for what I believe in.
And I was fighting my case.
I'm like, she doesn't have custody of me.
Like, I ran away from here.
So they placed me in foster care.
And I was in foster care for three years during high school.
I graduated out of foster care.
But I'm so grateful that I was in foster care because I was in a family that was a Christian family, and I've known the Lord my whole life.
But I just feel like everything happens for a reason.
Yes, amen.
I feel like everything happens for a reason.
I was able to meet my mom, and I give grace to her because it's hard raising kids.
I have four kids.
Because of the lack of her being in my life I feel like that's what's made me an amazing mom and I'll do anything for my kids people try to shame me for having kids But having my kids is the best decision ever had like I would I would never like, you know, I would never be like, oh, yeah I hate I hate having kids.
Isn't that crazy that they try to shame moms nowadays?
They do they do and you know I have my kids and I have two businesses and like the one thing that people always judge me on and I watch your guys podcast a lot and Oh, really?
Yeah, it's like, I hate that everybody falls under that statistic of, oh, she has kids.
But it's like, I have all this success with my kids.
I'm not looking for a baby daddy.
I'm not looking for someone to come in and take care of my kids.
My kids are happy.
My kids are beautiful and well taken care of.
And that's just the one thing that people always judge is, oh, she has kids.
Is it for the same dad?
Two dads.
Damn!
So you would tell your friend not to do it because you've dealt with it first hand, going back to the whole sex worker thing, and you see what it does to people.
I'm not gonna lie bro, I don't wanna be a girl.
That's messed up, dog.
Goddamn!
Yeah.
I feel like most people in sex work too, but they're not doing it because they want to do it.
They're desperate.
They're just looking for a way to make ends meet.
But you did it without it.
I did it without it, but I have a different mentality.
Good job, Rush.
What?
What?
Nigga, that's not me.
No, I said good job before pointing out.
Oh, okay, great.
So you would say don't do it based off your own personal experiences?
Correct.
Do you guys talk now still or no?
My parents?
Well, your mom.
Yeah, I speak to my mom.
Okay.
But it's just like cordial here and there?
It's cordial.
She's come a long way.
She's come a long way.
A long way?
Come on, Karis.
Does she live in Florida?
She's in Georgia.
Georgia?
Okay, cool.
All right, what about you?
Back in the pandemic days, I would say, whatever, go for it.
Because nobody was working, everyone was lonely, this, that, the other.
Now, I would definitely tell them not to.
Do you think that people that did it back during those times were desperate, just needed money?
That's why they did it?
I would say one, desperate, and two, definitely lonely.
There was a lot of guys and a lot of girls that go to strip clubs to see that stuff.
They don't want to touch, do all the other stuff.
So OnlyFans gave them the chance so I could be at the strip club, but not be at the strip club because they couldn't be.
So it was good for a time, but I think we need to phase it out.
Nona, you mentioned that.
During the time of that time, they were closed, the strip clubs.
Yes.
And they still wanted to go party at the club, so they did, oh shit.
Exactly.
So they went on OnlyFans and girls who had poles in their homes.
They would do stuff like that.
And that's how strippers also made their money because they couldn't go to the club.
No one was allowed to work.
So during the pandemic days, I would say go for it.
Everyone's just like trying to make an instant meet.
Now we have way other ways to make money now.
We don't have to do that anymore.
Interesting.
Okay.
Alright, what about you?
What are your thoughts?
Your best friend comes to you and says, yo, I want to go on OnlyFans or be a sugar baby or be a stripper.
I would show them how to make money.
Okay.
Because usually that's the reason why they're doing it anyways.
Okay.
So you would teach them how to make money.
Yeah.
Would you employ them?
She's like, nah, babe.
Nope.
Nah, babe.
I guess you're going to OnlyFans then.
Because they're coachable.
Okay, I guess they're going OnlyFans.
Good job.
She won't even appoint her own friend, bro.
What the fuck, man?
Alright, what about you?
Your friend wants to do OnlyFans.
What are you saying?
If she wasn't a whore before, then I'll say no.
But if she's always been a hoe, I would say, go ahead, honey.
It's your time to shine.
Yeah.
Okay, that's interesting.
And if it was a guy friend, same thing.
If he was never a hoe, no.
But if you're already a hoe, Go for it.
Do you think him being a hoe though would hurt his ability to get girls?
A guy?
Yeah.
But does he care if he's going to be on OnlyFans?
That's what I'm trying to say.
Like, like, because you're saying it as like, if you're a hoe already, just be a hoe for the women.
What I'm saying is that for a man, like, does it matter if he's a hoe to get girls?
No.
Yeah, so why would you?
I'm saying if you was a hoe and you don't mind showing your stuff and you like being like naked, then go do the job that belongs to you.
Damn.
There's friends like that.
Yeah.
Strange advice.
Yeah.
I just, I don't want to stop anyone from fulfilling their dreams.
To be on OnlyFans?
To make hella money.
To become an entrepreneur.
But only a minority of people make a bunch of money on OnlyFans, statistically speaking.
If you're a niche, you can make money.
Like the top 1% makes like 90% of the money.
Yep.
So would you still give them that advice knowing that there's a high likelihood they won't make any money?
If they were previously a hoe or whore or like to be naked or like to be free, yes.
Okay.
For your female friends?
No.
I have gay guy friends that are whores.
They want to fuck you, man.
She said they're gay.
What I'm saying is like, why would you go on dates and dates and dates and dates and have sex and hope for a better life when you can just charge to have sex, have the better life and you don't have to date to find a man Is that productive though?
To a long-term successful future?
Is it better to date?
You're talking about online sex work versus actual life.
I'm saying if you are normally a whore, or like to have sex, or like to be provocative, you should, I would recommend yes.
If you are a person that doesn't even show your tits to your friends, you should not be on any facts.
That's what I mean.
You think definitely my friend.
I do?
Definitely.
Okay.
Appreciate that.
Yeah.
Okay.
- Um, okay.
- I mean, yo, that's Harley right there.
- To eat their own.
- That's Harley.
- That's Harley.
- Yeah, she's from Harley, bro.
- Okay, let's go ahead and pull up a-- - It's how they talk, man.
You got a daughter?
Yes.
A video.
My father's a reporter, Niggas.
Alright, we got a video to play here.
Moe, you want to talk about this video, how it came about, and everything else like that?
We got you.
This is a viral video of a girl just...
She's basically crying and she wants to quit OnlyFans because she came to a little epiphany.
Alright, let's go ahead and play.
This came in from one of the supporters, right?
Yeah, she came too much.
Wait, she got face tattoos?
Oh, shit.
I want to quit SW really bad, and I think I am.
She gave us a spell quit right.
I was 18 for body art, and then I was going through it really bad mentally, and something I did back when I was younger was use over-sexualizing myself to cope with things because I was assaulted when I was a kid and over-sexualizing myself is a short response, but I just can't do it anymore.
I don't want to do it anymore.
It's not me.
It's not fulfilling.
It drains me.
I just want to make art.
I really just want to make art.
I'm so much more than that.
I don't want to exploit myself sexually anymore.
It makes me feel gross.
I don't want to be lasted over anymore.
I want to do this.
I want to make shit every day, and I don't want to put my energy into that stuff anymore.
I don't want to see your message people.
I don't want to look at myself like that.
I had the most amazing day yesterday with an old friend, and all we did was talk about art and creating, and he loved my art, and I was just like...
He tried to smash.
Put more of my time and energy to create the things that are in my head like I used to and really expand that.
And it's so hard because, like, that income is so comforting.
And it's like a safety net.
Like, I have to, like, go with that safety net.
And it's so hard.
I can't do it.
I really can't.
And it's so stressful.
Yo, chat rocks in the ass, bro.
It's the crying with no tears for me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm just, I'm not doing that anymore.
And it's, like, so hard.
And I just got off the phone with my friend.
And she's just like, cold turkey that bitch!
And I'm just like, ah!
You know, for the life of me...
Like, oh my god, it is so hard.
I don't understand crying on camera.
This is all I want to do.
All this stuff, that is all I want to do.
This stuff that I'm wearing right now is all I want to do.
Okay, um...
Go do it.
Wait, can I buy two cents as an artist?
Yeah, go ahead, bro.
Man, she is trash as fuck, man.
I thought she was in a fucking elementary school, man.
I'm like, why is she in a school?
I'm like, bitch, my students pay better than her, man.
Like, what the fuck?
Like, someone trying to say, bitch, can't even paint a tree, man.
I don't know.
Her spacing is off.
Her fucking scaling.
Yo, bitch, man, don't do art, bro.
Don't do art, bro.
Like, that's for you, man.
Chris, would anybody buy her paintings?
Hell no, man.
It comes with a blood job.
Oh, my God.
I'm serious, man.
Actually, that's a good add-on, actually.
That bitch sucks, man.
Holy shit, I'm both ways, man.
That is actually pretty funny.
Wait, did we finish the video?
Yeah, yeah.
Nigga says she's a better artist than you, Chris.
Nigga, like, I will show you my shit on my IG, bro.
Okay, go ahead and play the rest of it, and then we'll get the lead.
Oh, that was it?
Okay.
So, next question.
Ladies, what do you think the cause is?
I know she said that I get abused as a kid, but what do you think else also could have contributed to it?
We could start here and then work our way.
I don't know.
It's just easy money.
A lot of people don't want to do hard work or...
They don't want to do like a retail job or a call center job.
So you think it was laziness fueled it?
I think so, but she's not like a good saver because she's been doing it for a while and she's like, oh, this is what I have to rely back on.
Like, you haven't saved anything, girl.
Okay.
She got the full scope of it.
Laziness.
Okay.
What about you?
I feel like it's probably, if she didn't have a lot of attention, you know, people do things to, you know, make themselves want to be, you know, more, I don't know, like, if she had, like, been abused or something like that growing up, she probably was seeking attention in the wrong way, so that's what I'm trying to say.
Okay, so lack of attention in years prior?
Yeah.
Alright, what about you?
I think there's no foundation there.
What do you mean by that?
I blame the parents.
There's no foundation there.
I think that if she would have had a spiritual foundation there, she wouldn't sell herself short.
Okay.
What do you think led to her getting involved in that work besides her getting abused as a kid, she was saying?
That and having no spiritual foundation.
Oh, I was asking her.
Oh.
How she got into it?
I mean, she looks kind of young.
I'm going to go back to the kind of pandemic-y days.
She probably thought she was getting a whole lot of attention, and it felt really good.
And then all of a sudden, the world opened back up, and she was not proud of what she did or what...
People saw and people started bullying her online, probably, and it really got to her.
This is what it seems like to me.
Alright, what about you?
What do you think?
I mean, judging from her appearance, I think that the sexual, you know, things that she put out gave her some attention and she really liked that, and so she didn't anymore.
Okay, what about you?
Can you repeat the question?
Got you.
Stupid!
What do you believe was the cause for her to get into this type of work?
The root cause you think?
Desperateness and like not good.
So desperation.
Nobody gave her a better light.
So, bad advice.
Kind of like you gave earlier.
Yes!
I'm not even going to explain myself.
That's Hylia, man.
That's right.
Wait, are you from Hylia?
Yes, I am.
That's like the third time.
I know, they've asked me like this.
Next question is, ladies.
Do you feel bad for her?
Let me get this.
Do you feel bad for her?
Yes or no?
And why?
Start with you.
You know what's crazy, though, about Chris?
Every show, he puts them next to me.
I don't know what is, Chris.
That's why, man.
No, it's because I've been to Hialeah a couple times.
Oh, yeah.
You've been in Hialeah a couple times.
Yeah, it was loca.
Fresh was in Hialeah donating to the church.
There you go.
Yes, sir.
There you go.
What's the name of the church, bro?
Hialeah Community Christian Church.
Wow, your friends got you back there.
Do you feel bad?
West Ramal.
Do you feel bad for her?
Yes or no and why?
No, I don't feel bad for her.
Why not?
But she's crying though.
There was not one tear.
But no, I don't feel bad for her because for you to post it took a lot of editing, like looking through it.
Going through the motions and you didn't regret it before, it's like too late now.
Okay, so since she edited it, she don't feel bad for her?
You have to look at your own content.
You didn't feel bad while you were spreading it.
Wait, what?
Oh, she's right, though.
I just put a filter on it so I don't feel sorry for her.
No.
Literally, no.
It's a bitch that was After Effects.
No, I don't feel bad for you.
That's a very unique reason to not feel bad for somebody.
You edited it, so therefore, I don't feel sorry for you.
I mean, you didn't regret it while you edited it, which is like a long ass process.
No, but she's right though, man.
She's right, she has a point.
Yo, like, the fucking, um, the post not clarity, man.
If you look at every creator, they pre-record their apologies and they edit it.
And they don't feel bad.
Alright, interesting.
Alright, what about you?
Do you feel bad for her, yes or no, and why?
I mean, I have compassion for her because obviously bad circumstances got her to that point, but ultimately she's not in the right for doing what she did and she can obviously do a lot better with her life if she decides to.
So you do feel bad for her?
I have compassion for her, yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
And you feel bad for her because she made a bad decision.
Alright, what about you?
Do you feel bad for her?
Yes or no, and why?
Oh, yes.
I definitely feel bad for her.
Like I said, back in the pandemic days, I did what I did.
I feel bad for myself.
God forbid anyone sees what I did, even though it was solo, but just from personal experience, I regret it, so I definitely feel bad for her.
He's checking right now.
Damn fresh.
Go ahead.
You want to see my butt?
Yeah, I mean, can you stand up and do a little twirl?
I ain't doing no twirl for nobody.
You better paint.
No, I'm just kidding.
You're not playing.
You can do a twirl.
Aint no twirls on this pod for me.
So you did this back in the day, right?
But like, can you tell us the actual real behind people?
Because I feel like people put on a facade that are like, they're strong.
They love what they do for OnlyFans.
But by closed doors, it's almost like they're like crying, depressed, like always insecure about like how they look.
It was 50-50.
I had, like, a lot of people from out of the blue be like, I knew you were trash!
And I'm like, I've spoken to you once in my life.
And then there's people like, yeah!
Like, I'm so proud of you, women empowerment!
And I'm like, okay, I just don't have a job right now.
Like, it really, like, the attention was great for about 2.5 seconds, and then it kind of went downhill very fast, and no, I just, no.
I feel bad for her.
Yes.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you feel bad for her, yes or no, and why?
Yeah, I feel bad for her.
Okay, why do you feel bad for her?
Because I feel like, I don't know, that was the only option that she thought that she had.
Okay.
What about you?
I definitely feel bad for her.
I feel bad for her soul, too.
Her soul?
Her soul, yes.
Because, you know, she's fighting, literally crying, fighting what she did.
And so, yeah, of course.
Okay.
What about you?
No, I don't feel sorry for her.
Okay, why not?
Because she's like talking about how she wants to quit instead of just doing it.
And I don't think anyone who puts a phone in front of them to record their self crying, it's like a genuine feeling, to be honest.
Damn, this is the most misogynist pal I've ever seen.
Yeah, she a real one, bro.
I mean, they're older, so...
How dare you!
Okay, Chris, she's a runner.
Yeah, sorry.
She also watches, so she don't have no sympathy for these girls.
Yeah.
Alright, fair enough.
So you don't think so because it's ingenuine.
Recording yourself crying about something takes away the...
If you want to quit, just quit.
Just quit and don't make a video about it, right?
She just wants to sell her art, I think.
You think she wants to sell her art?
Yeah, she's like, I want to check out my art, guys!
Yeah, she has the art in the back.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you could say that.
But show the artwork.
Alright, and I'll start here.
So this is a good one.
What do you think the future holds for her?
Be honest.
I mean, not art.
This is trash, bro.
What the fuck?
Nah, anything is possible.
It ain't spelling either.
She spelled that shit.
It's cooting.
Wait, wait, cooting?
Cooting.
Yeah.
I think if she quits, she's just gonna go back to it, because...
Okay, so you predict she'll go back to it.
If her only other option is doing her art, and that's her art, I don't think...
Damn!
Tell us what I'm saying directly.
She's going to apply to an art school and see what happens.
She's going to use it as an excuse to get going on with fans to pay for school or some shit.
Okay, I get it.
I think she's gonna end up, if she really quits, I think she's gonna know that it's easier just to make money on OnlyFans and go back.
All right.
All right, she will go back.
Wait, what announcement?
Head on over to Rumble.
Oh, well, don't we have a council club announcement?
Oh no, we gotta do that later probably.
We didn't get the code?
Not yet.
Oh, okay, never mind then.
All right, so you said she's gonna go back.
What about you?
What do you think?
I don't know I feel like if she's really tired you ever been sick and tired of something if you finally are fed up with something if you're finally fed up with something I feel like if she really is tired of it I feel like she'll change her life and do something great you know I always try to get people the benefit of the doubt you never know you know like she said she was abused so you think if she's really serious about it she'll change yeah but do you think she will though is what I'm asking Um,
honestly speaking, I feel like with the clout of her trying to post and cry and stuff, it's going to take her a little bit more time.
Oh, so you think that actually hurt her, the crying video?
No, I said if she, um, like with the crying video, I don't think it's more, like she said, it's not as genuine, but with a little bit more time and her being fed up and at her limit, yeah, I feel like she'll stop.
Okay, what about you?
What do you think her future holds?
I unfortunately don't.
I think her future holds what she's in now.
She's gonna be stuck in that because if you just look at the comments and even just the people on some of the people on this panel like they ridicule her.
Nobody's stepping in to give her grace or even offer her prayer or like I just I don't think that's fair.
Everybody's just it's a laughing matter but this girl is clearly crying out for help and yeah she might be crying on camera but that's where desperation brings you sometimes.
Okay, so what do you think is gonna happen in the future?
I just think she's gonna be stuck in it.
I don't think she has enough people in her life who can guide her out of it.
She's gonna stay stuck in sex work?
I think so.
Okay.
What about you, Coco?
I think after this, you guys have given her a great platform.
She's gonna turn her life around.
She's gonna be an influencer.
She's gonna tell everyone why she did that, why she stopped.
And you just made her famous, so I think she is gonna stop.
I think she's gonna turn her life around.
She's gonna be great, just like me.
We made her famous?
Yeah, honestly.
I don't know about that one.
Interesting take on it.
It's a compliment to you guys, really.
Yeah, I mean, guys will damn her.
I saw your artwork is trash.
No, I mean, putting her on this platform and everyone being able to see her, they're going to look her up.
I'll respond to that here in a second because I got an interesting take because you think that, okay, so, okay, you think she's going to potentially become an influencer because we put her up.
Okay, what about you, Columbia?
What do you think?
I mean, I think that if she finds God and like a higher power and decides to quit that because it's pretty obvious.
What do you think is going to happen?
It's really up to her.
I hope for her the best.
I think that realistically, if she doesn't find another source of income, she'll stay in that.
But if she does find other money elsewhere, she will go on to do something else with her life.
Yeah, she has no chance.
That was a polite way of saying it.
She has no chance.
That's what you got.
If and then and all this other crap.
Politically correct.
Yeah, she'll want to.
What do you think is going to happen?
That wasn't even an opinion.
You just gave a bunch of ifs.
It's up to her at the end of the day.
My opinion is maybe...
Yeah, yeah.
I know you're from somewhere.
We might have to talk after the show.
And it's not that good.
No.
I don't go to weird places.
What are you talking about?
Where have you been?
It's coming to my mind soon eventually.
He's been everywhere.
Yeah, I've been everywhere.
But nowhere.
At the same time.
What about you?
What do you think?
What do you think is going to happen to her?
I think she might go into hiding after the comments that she got, probably.
No, she won't.
Oh, sorry.
I think that she's just going to go into hiding.
Hopefully she comes back with some better ideas on how to make money.
Because obviously selling her booty is not making her happy.
I mean, I would only keep doing something if it makes me feel good.
So if it makes you feel bad, you probably shouldn't do it.
How about how you feel?
I think she can, I think she can get out of doing something.
Okay.
Um, all right.
So with the, we might have to go to, guys, just so you know, so we're going to be switching back and forth between like YouTube and Rumble and locals and shit like that.
So don't worry for all you guys that are watching on YouTube.
You guys will actually be able to see parts of the show, but I want to give my take on this influencer thing.
So we're going to have to go into what I call a castle realm.
So, We're going to go into the castle realm now, okay?
So I can say what I want to say here without getting censored on fucking YouTube.
You triggered my trap card!
So let me know when we're clear.
Are we doing just locals or...
We can go locals and rumble just for a little bit.
So guys, come on over to rumble or castle club if not.
Or you can just enjoy the fucking blurred screen.
Okay, with the influencer thing, am I clear?
Hold on, let me look.
Tell me if you see it on you.
Try something new here, by the way, guys.
Yeah, we're trying something new here, so that way we'll stay up on YouTube for y'all.
Okay, so with the influencer thing, what I've noticed, right, so like, and this happens a lot where like a girl that's like a sex worker might get some clout or get some like exposure or whatever, but she's not able to like kind of sustain it because what I've kind of realized with a lot of girls that do like sex work is they don't really have any other skill sets, which is why they go into that a lot of the times.
They're not entertaining, they're not smart, they don't have anything to share with the world, so they have to kind of resort to just like using their body.
And what's up happening is you'll get that promo.
You might get a couple of people to sign up to your OnlyFans, but can they keep them on?
And it's very difficult to keep them on when all you offer is sexuality, which every other girl offers.
And I think that's what a lot of women have issues with when it comes to OnlyFans is that you're very replaceable.
You see your subscribers go up and then down, etc.
And then it kind of hammers in the reality that, damn, I have to do more deplorable shit to be able to keep people watching my stuff Which doesn't really set me out for the skill sets that I really have.
And, like, with girls like that, because we've dealt with a lot of sex workers on the show, and I've dated a few and shit like that.
Most of the time, they have very similar characteristics.
They tend to be lazy.
They tend to not be smart.
Like, I mean, this girl couldn't even spell quit on the fucking thing, right?
And they just don't have...
Because when you're making a lot of money doing sex work, like, you don't have the proclivity to go out and, like...
Become smarter, become better, self-improve yourself.
Like, you just stay a fucking retard, if I'm gonna be honest.
So, what I've realized with influencers, you said, hey, well, she might, she got, you guys gave her some promo, whatever.
Like, a lot of the times, that doesn't lead to anything because they don't have anything to keep the people there.
Like, a lead only matters if you're leading them to value, to stay.
If you're just, like, leading them, and they come over, and then they realize, oh, look, it's just another dumb bitch selling her butthole on the internet, they're like, bro, what the fuck?
And then they're gonna just leave.
They'll watch for a bit, and then they'll leave.
So I think having a leader getting promotion only works when you have some type of value to add when they get to that destination of wherever you're leading them.
Or if you're willing to work really hard after you got that promo.
Yeah, but most girls are not.
But she mentioned it earlier.
You said that she didn't save for the aftermath.
We can go back.
And it's funny because a lot of girls will make money in that interim.
However, the long-term actual effects of it is, okay, I have money.
I'm buying Gucci.
I'm traveling with my girls.
Buying cars.
But then it's like, okay, once the hype is down, what do you do?
And unfortunately, what happens is they're stuck there because now they got to make money because if they don't, with no skills, what do they do?
So it just sucks, man.
You still have to be an entrepreneur to be successful in OnlyFans.
Like, you have to know how to market yourself, you know how to...
To business.
Because it looks easy on paper.
It looks easy.
But when you actually get into it, you've got to do a lot of work behind the scenes.
That's what I was saying.
You've got to have costumes, have shoot days, rent Airbnbs, all that shit, get talent.
And by the way, they pay guys to fuck them.
Isn't that crazy?
They pay guys to smash.
That's wild.
Well, the guys typically got to have clout, though.
Yes.
It's hypergamy on another level, which is interesting.
The dude has to have a platform for them to smash them.
But at that point, it's like...
You know, you kind of just, and that leads me actually to my next question.
Do girls, do you guys think girls that are involved in sex work deserve a good man?
We'll start here and then work our way around.
Hell yeah.
I mean, if you're successful, yes.
Okay, so you think if she makes money and she's successful, yeah?
Okay.
Yes.
What about you?
Because she can do what she needs to do.
I mean, I don't think a high quality man is going to go for somebody that does that.
So does she deserve it, in your opinion?
I don't think so.
No?
Okay.
What about you?
It really depends.
How dare you!
If she started, then quit, and turned her life around, absolutely.
But if you're in your thirties and you're still going at it, I'm sorry, no.
Thirties?
So you think yes if she leaves?
Yeah, if she was young, in her 20s, and, you know, she made some mistakes, and she made some mistakes, you know, let her be.
If she quit, she's a grown woman now, and she put that in her past, and she did her best to erase everything.
Yeah, she does.
Wait, how old are you again?
I'm 31.
Did you erase everything?
No, she's still on.
No, it's very, very...
So, when you quit, you have to wait until the last subscriber stops subscribing.
Really?
So, I just stop posting, and I'm just waiting for the last dying person to die out.
I don't know about that, because that red-haired chick ended her shit, the one that converted to Christianity or whatever.
What's your name again?
I forget something.
Someone in the chat is going to say it.
Red-haired chick.
I forget her name.
Educate me.
Okay, so you think yes if they leave.
Alright, so real quick for you.
Castle, will you take us to the castle realm real quick?
Hold on, bro.
Yeah, and I know we need some seconds.
I'll come back to you and answer that while we wait for the castle realm.
Nala, Nala, it's in the chat.
Nala, okay.
What about you?
Do you think a girl that was involved in sex work deserves a good man?
Slacker Jack.
I'm gonna go with no.
I feel like...
I just feel like...
You know, you have to prepare yourself for a good man to come into your life.
And if you're involved in sex work, you are only going to be a detriment to that good man.
So I'm not going to say that they...
I mean, I think everyone deserves to have a good man, but you also have to position yourself for that good man to be able to, you know, enter.
Wait, so are you saying she don't deserve one?
I'm not the person to judge whether somebody deserves something or not.
Tell her straight.
I'm just saying you gotta align yourself.
If you want a good man and you're involving yourself in sex work, it's an oxymoron.
You heard that, Coco?
I can get any man I want.
I'm really not worried about that.
But getting a man is not hard.
We're talking about getting a good man.
I can get a good man with what I've learned and the things that I've done and the lessons that I've learned.
And I think at that point we just have to define what everybody's definition of good is.
Alright, I got a question for you, Coco.
So you said, yes, a girl does deserve it if she leaves that industry.
So let me ask you this.
Let's say a guy used to do gay porn.
Would you take a guy seriously like that that used to do gay porn and decides, you know what, I'm not gay anymore, I'm heterosexual, I want a woman?
Would you take him seriously?
I would absolutely take him seriously.
I'm not going to judge anybody on their sexuality, but if...
So he was sucking dick and smashing dudes and all that.
You would be okay with that?
He's taking it in the butt.
You would be okay with that?
If I would...
I mean, if I took it up there, why wouldn't he?
No, but you didn't though.
So like, would you take that guy seriously?
Maybe he did.
Yeah, I would take him seriously.
Man, you cap him, man.
You cap him.
No!
There's no fucking way you would take that dude seriously.
What if he does like a relapse?
Like, he's straight for like a year and it says fuck this shit.
That's wrong.
I'm bisexual.
So for me to be like, oh, I can't take a man doing other stuff, that's hypocritical to me.
Oh.
Like, it doesn't make sense to me in my world.
So you would do it to not come off as a hypocrite despite the fact that that guy might not be your ideal man?
Because I'm assuming a homosexual is not your ideal man.
Well, a homosexual wouldn't be my ideal man.
A bisexual man would be my ideal man.
A homosexual would not...
You can be straight, you can be bisexual.
If you're homosexual, you're obviously not into me.
See, I believe that men can be bisexual.
Yeah, me neither.
Because if you take it in the butt, nigga...
Come on, buddy.
I have a theory on this, too.
I don't believe that men can be bisexual either.
Where's your G-spot?
What does that have to do with anything?
Nigga!
Hold on!
You know what?
You gotta find a D-spot.
That's it.
Come on, man!
The thing is that...
I agree with you.
I don't think...
And this is my theory.
We're still on a castle thing, right?
I don't think men can be bisexual.
And the reason why is because...
Okay, so human beings go by the path of least resistance, right?
They want the easiest and most convenient way to do things, correct?
Yes.
Can we agree on that?
Yes.
Okay.
So...
Who is it easier to get sex from assuming you like both genders?
Getting sex from a man or getting sex from a woman?
If you're a dude.
A woman?
No.
No, if I'm a man.
I have gay friends.
Men are crazy.
Is it easier to get laid if you were a bisexual man with a man or with a woman?
With a man.
With a man, right?
So, would it be fair to say that it's significantly harder to attract a woman as a man than it is to attract another man?
Okay, I see where you're going.
Okay, so why would a guy go through the paces to entertain, take out on a date, and do all this other shit for a female when a lot of the times guys just want sexual satisfaction, they'll just go to a dude.
That's a good-ass point.
That's why when guys say they're bisexual, I'm like, that's a lie, because number one, it's way harder to attract a woman.
And then on top of that, you being bisexual actually hurts you significantly with attracting women.
Most women, if they know that you've done gay shit, they will never fuck with you.
So you are effectively gay.
By what you're doing.
And also, keep in mind that when you're with that guy...
Metro just takes care of himself.
That's completely different.
You're like a...
I want to say a scapegoat.
You're not having like a real actual item.
You're just like, oh, you know what?
I'm going to act normal for now.
And then use you as like the proxy for me being normal.
When a W is about to being gay.
Because, yeah, bro, like, because it's not, like, and then on top of that, dealing with a dude is cheaper.
It doesn't cost you as much money.
It doesn't cost you as much time.
It's not as cumbersome.
Like, why would a dude ever deal with women if he got sexual satisfaction from dudes?
He would never talk to you guys, ever.
Yeah, ever.
Like, would it make sense for him?
I mean, just thinking practically, because men tend to be more rational with that shit, so...
Yeah, I mean, do you really think you would be able to get a bisexual guy and take him seriously and be able to have a date with him and all that other stuff?
I've been with a bisexual guy.
Where's he now?
He's gone.
He's with another woman.
I don't know where.
He's off in New York somewhere.
This is when I was 20.
20-something.
I don't know.
Why didn't it last then?
Our chemistry just didn't match.
And you left him, right?
You left him, right?
No, it was mutual.
Somebody always initiates, man.
No, not necessarily.
Come on, Coco.
Don't cap Coco.
Really?
No, it's not.
Come on, chocolate.
All right.
Okay, so we can go back to YouTube and shit like that.
We can go back everywhere.
Okay, what about you?
Do you think that woman deserves...
Do you think a girl deserves a good man after she's done sex work?
I feel like everybody deserves, you know...
Chocolate.
I feel like everybody deserves to have a good life, be with a good partner, but...
You think so?
Yeah, I mean...
What about pedophiles?
Well, not pedophiles.
I'm saying, like, everyone...
No, I'm saying everyone is given the opportunity to be able to have a good partner, pick a good partner, get married, have kids, whatever they want to do.
That's what you put on this roof to do.
But do you think everyone actually deserves it though?
Not everyone, but what I'm saying is...
Or is it earned?
What I'm saying is with the sex part, the sex worker part, I feel like if you've done something in your past, it's just like somebody that's on drugs and they, you know, they turned their life around and now they have a business, they have a wife, they have kids...
I don't feel like they, you know, didn't deserve a chance to turn their life around.
I'm just saying that's, you know, I wouldn't feel like they don't deserve love because they did sex work with somebody.
All right.
What about you?
What do you think, Puerto Rico?
Do you think women that are involved in the sex work deserve a good man?
No.
Why not?
Oh, shit.
No.
I don't know, because of what I said earlier, your value goes down.
She mentioned success, but I don't think any high-value man cares about how much money you're making on O.F. or what your success is.
He just cares about not, like, his friends haven't seen you in all fours or something.
Do you agree with that, disagree with that?
I disagree with that.
Okay, why do you disagree?
Because she's making the stance that...
Because if you and...
Just so you understand what her argument is.
Her argument is basically a girl making...
Let's say she makes $100,000 a month making money, right?
She's killing it on OnlyFans.
Her being on all fours on the internet...
Is embarrassing to her husband.
...destroys everything.
So that money doesn't matter.
But what's your take on that?
My take is if you're married to this person that does this, then you don't care.
Her argument is you won't even get to that point.
That's what she's trying to say.
I think even sex workers can find a man that will fall in love with them.
But is it an ideal man that they actually want?
I don't think the man sometimes we're with is the ideal man and we're still with them.
There's people in relationships that are not working.
Would it be fair to say then that the ideal man has...
And I want you guys to say yes if you agree.
Would it be fair to say that the ideal man is dominant?
Yes.
Assertive?
Yes.
Masculine?
Yes.
Isn't soft?
Yes.
Okay.
Strong?
Well, I need my man to be a little bit like...
Okay.
I'm saying in general.
Strong?
Yes.
Stronger than me.
Okay.
Let's see here.
He's educated, intelligent.
Yeah?
Okay.
Okay.
Would you say a majority of men have these traits or a minority of men have these traits all in one?
Come on, Hialeah.
I've dealt with a lot of smart men, so I can't...
Well, it was all the other things I mentioned, too, not just intelligence.
No, like...
There's a lot of guys that are smart, but they're pussies.
I'm talking about, like, the full package.
You dealt with smart guys in Hialeah?
Maybe they're not from Hialeah.
I'm about to say.
No offense to Hialeah niggas, but hey, man.
No, no, no.
I know.
I stayed away from there.
I stayed away from there.
Um...
I just believe that there's a person for that crazy sex worker.
Alright, take us to Castle Club thing.
So you think that there's somebody for everybody?
Yes.
But when you say there's somebody for everybody, you think that everybody is going to be their body?
Like what they actually want?
Why would you be with somebody if you don't want to be with their body?
Know what I'm saying?
Because you're saying there's somebody for everybody.
Yeah.
But the thing is, is that do you think that that somebody for that person, the attraction is mutual?
Like they would actually like each other.
Yeah.
Well, one party might like one, but the woman doesn't like him back, which is typically what it is.
Then you're not supposed to be together.
Okay, since we're on the Castle Club now and Rumble, we'll just make, yeah.
From now, just switch it to Rumble, yeah.
Sorry.
Castle Club to YouTube, you know what I mean?
Are we going back to YouTube?
No, no, no, not right now.
Not YouTube right now.
What I'm saying is that a guy that's hyper-masculine, that has his shit together, that's attractive, I hate to say it, they're not going to wife up whores.
I mean, it wouldn't be their first pick.
But if that woman is smart...
They wouldn't pick her, period.
No, they wouldn't.
In general, no, they're not.
Why the fuck is a guy gonna bust his ass, go to the gym, be attractive, do all this shit, and then wife up a whore?
That's embarrassing.
Right.
They'll smash.
I know everyone thinks sex workers are whores, but I... They are.
I guess.
They are.
And I have a more extreme take on this.
I don't think...
There's like more whores on the actual, like, in the club.
Sure.
To me.
Sure.
Because at least those girls will not fuck for no money.
Sure.
That makes it better.
You know, the girls at the club have sex for no money.
Like, for no nothing.
So you think it's better to have sex for money or for free?
I think it's better if you're a whore to become a porn star.
As a female, do you think it's better to have sex for money or for free?
As a woman?
Yes, as a woman in general.
Do you think it's better to have sex for money?
Having sex with no money involved is great.
Okay, alright.
So, it took you a while to answer that.
No, I mean, everyone wants money, no?
But not everyone is willing to give a fix for it.
I get it.
Okay, so my stance on it is this.
I don't think sex workers deserve a good man.
I don't think sex workers even deserve a man.
And the reason why is because a woman that is a sex worker, in my take, is the equivalent to a man that's homeless.
And I'll explain what I mean by this.
So a man that's homeless can't provide you a house.
He can't provide you resources.
He can't take care of you.
Isn't that what women look for in a man?
A protector, a provider, and a provisioner?
Correct.
Okay.
A woman that's a sex worker can't really give you her heart and her emotions because she's a sex worker.
She's had to share it with many other men, right?
And that effectively fucks up her ability to be a good, dutiful wife to you.
I look at women as tape.
What I mean by this is that when you take a piece of tape, right?
From the beginning, you take it off the roll and you put it on the table.
It's very sticky, right?
The first time you attach it on.
But then when you pull it off and put it back on again, it becomes less and less sticky the more times you do that.
So the more surfaces you put the tape on, the less sticky it becomes.
When women are sex workers, they effectively have no stickiness left.
They're able to jump from guy to guy, different surface to different surface, and they're no longer a good partner.
And a piece of tape that isn't durable and can stand on the fucking table is useless.
It can't hold what I call a relationship together.
So, when a woman effectively sells herself and she becomes this tape, That's been used everywhere.
The stickiness is gone, and that is her most important asset.
Men must create their value, and women must preserve their value.
Women are tape.
The more surfaces they've attached to, the more fucked up they become.
So that's why I think women that are sex workers don't deserve good men.
I don't even think they deserve men in general.
Because once you go into that field, you've effectively selected to say, you know what?
Fuck it, my sexuality's for sale?
And since your sexuality is for sale, so is your soul, and you can't fuck with a girl that doesn't have a stole.
Wait, new analogy?
Let's go, man!
I've had it before, but I haven't used it in years.
But yeah, so that's how I look at women is tape.
Wait, wait, scotch?
I guess, in reality, if you look painter's tape.
How dare you?
Some of these bitches, the Caesar tape, bro.
That piece of shit tape.
But that really is, like, I know that's a very crude way to describe it, but that's a woman's sexuality.
You know, this is why women that are virgins, a lot of times, they tend to be more attached to their man.
Relationships, they rarely fall off when they meet the guy and they lose their virginity, and they get attached.
It's an innocence that sex workers lose.
Yes.
In general.
And that is the cornerstone of female value is her innocence and her purity because the more guys she fucks, right, the more her soul gets fucked out of her and then she's just not able to pair with you as a man.
And the other thing too, this is going to sound fucked up, the more experiences women have to draw from, right, the more sexual partners they have, the more experience they have to draw from, the more they're like, I can do better.
And I genuinely think fear of missing out and this idea and concept of I can do better, it's actually like a very negative thing that sets women back.
Because they'll have a good man in front of them, but they're like, damn, I can do better.
And when you think that you can do better, you continuously go back out in the market thinking that you're gonna get a better deal, but the reality is you're not gonna get a better deal.
Well, yeah, a lot of times it ends up you do worse, is what it is.
So, I'll turn it to you guys.
I don't know if you guys agree, disagree.
You guys can give me your takes.
We can go back to...
Yeah, she disagrees.
Okay, that's fine.
I'm gonna go back to YouTube.
So, yeah, that's fine.
Why do you disagree, Coco?
Because not all sex work has to be with another person.
Like I said, you can do your solo stuff.
Yeah.
You don't have to be, you know, screwing another guy.
So you're like, oh, losing value, losing value.
Okay, but what if you didn't do it with another man?
What if it was a toy?
The thing is, is that when you do it, whether it's with a man or with a toy, it's still, it's just a bad look in general.
Of course it's a bad look.
Your cookie's still out there, I guess.
But to be like, you don't deserve a man ever because you used a vibrator, like...
Yeah, on camera.
Still.
So, okay.
Are you familiar...
Okay, so when someone gets married...
I agree with you, but I don't.
Yeah, you don't agree because it might hurt your feelings a little bit.
No, no, it doesn't hurt my feelings.
When a woman walks down the aisle, right, what color is the dress that she's wearing?
White.
What is that white symbol?
Purity.
Me personally, I do not want to wear a white dress.
Okay, but speaking in general, why do women wear a white dress when they walk down the aisle?
For purity, to represent purity.
Purity, right?
And then they're supposed to have sex on their wedding night, correct?
Yes.
Okay.
A man, right, courted that woman, dated that woman, got engaged to that woman, gave her a ring, promises her a life, etc.
This is all very expensive and time-consuming stuff, would you agree?
Yes.
And in exchange, he's able to get her purity in the confinement of a relationship, right?
But does she get his purity?
Do women screen for promiscuity in men?
Do they?
Do you care about a man's body count?
Do you?
Can you please answer the question and stop being disingenuous?
We're having a logically sound adult conversation.
I'm asking you these questions.
As an adult?
No, I don't care.
Fantastic.
But you are aware that men care a lot about how many partners a woman has.
We are speaking for all men, maybe you, not all men care about that.
An overwhelming majority of men absolutely care about a woman's body count, just like an overwhelming majority of women care about a man's ability to provide resources.
Men who are not insecure do not care about a woman's body count.
Okay, so you think that's an insecurity?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about, okay, let me ask you this then.
Do you want a man to make more money than you?
Your ideal man, hypothetically?
It doesn't really matter.
If you could pick your dream guy, would you prefer him to make more money than you, yes or no?
No.
No, okay.
You'd want a guy that makes less than you?
Equal.
Equal.
Okay, would you be okay with a guy that's shorter than you then?
Yes, I've dated men shorter than me.
How long did that last?
Three years.
Okay.
Well, didn't last that long.
Do you want a man that's stronger than you?
Doesn't have to be.
So you'll take a guy that's physically inferior to you, smaller than you, and can't necessarily fight off an attacker?
Why would I attract men who are people trying to fight me?
I don't need that.
It happens by chance.
We live in Florida.
I have my concealed.
Okay.
You can answer for everything.
Yeah, the thing is that she just doesn't like the reality, so she's kind of trying to contort answers to fit the thing.
I mean, she's 33, so it's fine, man.
Yeah, she's 31.
Because you're saying that it's insecure for a man to care about a woman's body count.
Okay, let's take your logic.
What if I said women are insecure if they care about their man making more money than them?
Why would they be?
Why would they be what?
Insecure?
Yeah.
Okay, fair.
We're getting somewhere.
So you think that's a stupid idea to call a woman insecure for caring about how much a man makes?
You agree with me?
That's stupid.
I don't want to say it's stupid, I just don't think it's relevant.
Okay, fantastic.
So I find it interesting how a woman isn't insecure for caring about how much money a man makes, but you're saying a man's insecure for caring about how much bodies a woman has.
Sex and money?
It's not correlating with me.
Yeah, because men and women aren't the same, and I'm giving you a functional equivalence.
It's an analogy.
Men and women aren't the same.
So I can't tell you, well, men care about women's money.
No, we don't.
So I got to give you a functional equivalent.
Women care about a man's status and money.
Men care about a woman's promiscuity.
Stereotypically.
Not...
Not stereotypically, that's just the truth in general.
Not all the time, no.
It's not all the time.
That's, genuinely, it's not all the time.
If I lined up 100 dudes, 90 of them are gonna care about their girl, that they're gonna take seriously sexual past.
I would like to ask their age.
Whose age?
The men's age.
If they care.
But let's be honest here, though.
Why don't we move on?
No, but let's be honest here, though.
Most guys don't want to wife a whore, right?
Let's be honest here.
Define a whore.
You.
I haven't had sex for money.
You know people.
I haven't had sex for money, so I'm not a whore.
I didn't finish it properly.
I was going to say, you know people.
Right?
That are whores, right?
Yes, I do.
There you go.
So they don't want to wife those girls.
A lot of them are white.
Let me ask you this, then.
Because let's use your own logic, right?
Let's use your own logic.
We don't know that yet.
They're still married.
Well, we know.
If being a whore isn't that big of a deal, why don't you just go all the way and fuck on camera then?
Because I don't want to.
That's my personal preference.
Well, why don't you want to?
Because that's my personal preference.
No, but tell me, why is it your personal preference?
Because I don't want to do that.
Okay.
But why not?
Yeah.
If being a whore doesn't matter and body count doesn't matter, why not just fuck niggas on camera and run a bag up?
Body count and being a whore on camera, those are two different things, my guy.
Let's not do that.
Oh, now, so see, so it's not so insecure now, is it?
What?
So you're saying I could be a whore on camera, but not in real life?
No, not necessarily that.
If you're a whore, and if you're gonna be a whore on camera, do the damn thing.
Alright, I'm confused.
If you're not, Keep it to your fucking self.
Okay.
I'm just gonna close.
Are we on castle thing?
Whatever?
Still?
Nope.
Alright.
So, yeah, just go to the castle thing.
Castle Club Ninjas, come on over.
And we'll go back and forth.
I don't think you understand.
Like, your logic is fucked up.
Like, you don't make sense.
So, like, on one hand, you're saying men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count, right?
But then I said, well, women are very interested in a man's ability to acquire resources and protect and provide.
Does that make them insecure?
And you said no.
And I said, I agree with you.
It doesn't make them insecure.
It's a biological want and need from women to men to look for these things.
So why is it insecure if I say it's a man's biological need to understand that his girl's not a whore?
How's that insecure?
What if she's not a whore?
That's what I was...
I'm saying, I'm talking about if she is a whore.
Okay, so if he has a...
Because you made the comment if she's a whore and he's insecure about that.
If he has a problem with whores, then don't date a whore.
Yes, but you were trying to say that that makes him insecure for not wanting to be with a whore.
That was your stance.
Maybe I said some things differently.
An open whore, like a street walker?
Okay, yes, I get that.
But from my stance, from being on OnlyFans and only being solo, I don't count myself as a whore.
Because I didn't go fuck...
A bunch of different men.
It was myself.
So that's where my mind is going.
Yeah, but whether you have sex with them or not, your purity is still tainted.
And that's where I was going with the wedding dress analogy.
A man had to work really hard to court you and get engaged to you and marry you, right?
And then he's, in his mind, this body is for me.
This is my woman.
So if there's videos of you out there fucking a dildo, well, guess what?
That just makes him look like an idiot because he spent a lifetime to attract you and other dudes can see it for $3.99 a month.
So why did he spend a lifetime?
That's why they don't commit to you guys.
Ta-da!
Ta-da!
You literally just answered it yourself.
Why would he spend that?
Thank you.
You answered it yourself.
Why the hell would he go through the process of court you, engage you, and marry you when he knows that you've done that?
That's precisely my point.
Because people still want to court me and marry me.
People still want to do that with me.
But guess what?
You don't want them, right?
Yeah, and you don't want them, though.
Yeah.
So that tells you...
And ladies, just so you know, because women like you make this excuse all the time.
Oh, well, I can get any man I want.
I didn't say that.
You literally said that earlier in response to her.
You just did?
Yes, you did.
Yeah, you did.
Right?
Okay.
Fair.
Come on, Coco.
I'm a queen!
Anyone that I want!
I know, Coco.
No, no, no, no, no.
Translation.
Just anyone, because I don't think you want them back, because if you did, you would have one of them...
No, no, I don't think I can get anyone.
If I can get anyone, I would have everyone.
Do you know when you buy clothes from a store, right?
They're brand new.
They're on the shelf.
They look beautiful.
And if someone buys those clothes, they wear them, they go to Goodwill.
That's what you have right now.
Leftover men.
From Goodwill.
Everyone is leftover.
So everyone's a virgin now.
You're reading into this analogy.
Everyone's a virgin.
Okay.
Moving on.
To be honest though, you don't want those men anyway.
So it's like...
I'll do it better.
So, because you said that you can get any man that you want, right?
Like, what if I... I'm sorry?
And I have.
Okay.
So, what if I told you...
And you're single.
I can get any girl I want, right?
I'm single by choice.
What if I told you, I can get any girl that I want, right?
But then you find out that I'm just whacking off to different girls on Pornhub every day.
Would that count?
What?
You're just...
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I'm just...
I'm asking you.
Like, you say that you can get any guy that you want, and then I respond.
I say, well, I can get any bitch I want.
But then you find out that I'm literally just whacking off to different girls every down Pornhub.
That doesn't make sense.
Thank you.
It doesn't, right?
Why does it not make sense?
You're not actually getting the girl.
You're just watching her.
Yup.
Trans...
Fantastic.
You're not actually getting the guy who just...
You triggered my trap card!
Because as a woman...
I'm not having sex with the girl!
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Hold on.
We're gonna reverse on you because you don't get it.
It's not a fucking brag as a female to sit there and say, I can get any guy I want.
Every single one of you at this fucking table can go out on a date with a celebrity, okay?
That's not a flex.
Just like I can go ahead and whack off to a new bitch on OnlyFans every day.
It's not a flex.
It's only a flex when you're a woman if you can keep the fucking guy and get his last name.
So until I see a ring on your fucking finger from a guy that you love, admire, and respect, and you willingly want to take his last name, you can't flex at all.
Just like me, I can't sit here and say, well, I got a new bitch every day, but I'm whacking off to fucking new bitches on OnlyFans.
It doesn't count because it doesn't take me skill to be able to do that.
Just like it doesn't take skill for you to go on a date with a guy or have a guy give you attention.
Women just exist and breathe.
And some dude's going to fucking talk to you, bro.
Like you bitches can literally be fucking retarded.
And some dude will still talk to you.
There's no fucking skill set in being a female and getting men to talk to you.
I hate when girls say dumb shit like that.
I can have any man I want.
Period.
Until you can actually get a guy to take you seriously, give you a last name, and give you a fucking ring.
I don't want to hear shit from no fucking woman at all.
I've been engaged, and I called off the engagement.
Oh!
Of course.
I wonder why.
And that was before OnlyFans.
Okay, you call up the engagement because the guy wasn't your top choice.
He was abusive.
What?
She was quiet.
This is what I'm trying to say.
Again, what did I say a second ago?
What did I say a second ago?
It doesn't matter unless you get your dream man and get him to take you fucking seriously.
It doesn't matter.
I don't give a fuck who engaged you.
I don't give a fuck who dated you.
I don't give a fuck who you fucked.
Until you get a guy that is the man that you actually want to give you a ring, I don't want to hear nothing from none of y'all females, bro.
I haven't found him yet.
I know!
Okay!
There you go!
That's our point.
Shut up, bitch!
Goddamn!
Why the whole time you talking?
Because this is the thing.
See, no one ever checks women on this dumb shit.
Ladies, you don't win the game until a guy gives you a ring that you actually want back.
It doesn't count if you fuck a guy.
It doesn't count if you date a guy.
It doesn't count even if you fucking are seeing a guy that's a celebrity.
I don't give a fuck about none of that.
How many of them do you want that actually wants you back and gives you a ring?
Until you get that, shut the fuck up.
It's not a flex to have niggas DM you.
It's not a flex to have dudes fly you out.
It's not a flex to fuck a celebrity.
It's not even a place to talk to one.
Never said I did any of those things.
You just said a second ago, I can get any man I want.
I did not say fuck the celebrity and did not say a guy will find me out.
You just said a second ago, I can have any man I want, which I can go ahead and presume off of that, that you've gotten offers from other men, which is why you make a comment like that.
I'm not stupid.
I know how you guys think and I'm 10 steps ahead of you.
Come on, Coco.
I know how women think and what it is and you guys have an over-inflated sense of self-worth and you think, I'm getting attention from this guy.
Well, getting attention from a guy and getting the last name from the guy are not the same thing at all.
You're absolutely right.
Like, I could whack off to a new bitch on the internet, but that ain't a flex.
I'd be ashamed of myself, actually, by saying that.
I get a new bitch every day, and I whack off to her.
Like a woman that says, well, I got niggas that want me.
Who cares?
You can literally be in a wheelchair.
And some nigga will still talk to you.
That's not a flex, man.
It's true.
Or a bike.
Or a bike on a yacht.
What?
Like, have you seen how thirsty niggas are?
Like, bro, what the hell?
And, uh, no offense.
We don't, well, first of all, we don't ever support abuse to women, but the fact that he did abuse even means that he wasn't, like, the right guy for you, right?
That's why I left.
100%, so you chose wrong.
I chose...
Am I not allowed to make mistakes?
No, no.
I'm just telling you that that was not your ideal man anyway.
Yeah.
I thought he was.
He made some really fucked up things and choices.
And I made...
I changed my mind.
Statistically speaking, abuse.
This bitch has no legs.
And she's on the yacht in Miami.
Or...
And she's twerking.
Hey guys, what the fuck this bitch, bro?
What the fuck?
You know what I'm saying, man?
That's all over Twitter, bro.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, bro.
Yo, women really live like punies, bro.
Yo, it's a hit, though, man.
I would.
What the fuck, man?
Oh, gross, bro.
Yeah, that shit's crazy.
Come on, man.
We can go back to YouTube and shit.
I'm nervous in a guy with no...
Just hold the L, okay?
Alright, we got some chats here.
No, he's bringing back YouTube.
He's bringing back YouTube right now.
Castle Club?
Yeah, we'll just go back and forth between Castle Club and the other things.
Okay, have you thought about making Collins exclusive to locals?
Also, I heard X is investing in streaming.
Is there a possibility of getting the shadow ban removed on the FNF account and was added before must-purchase of X? Probably not, bro.
I mean, that account is dead.
Just follow me on Unplugged Fidex.
Also, the Zoom calls are a call-in show all in one.
Yeah, the Zoom calls are a call-in right there.
So, I mean, we might do a Friday show for y'all we're calling, but if we did, it would be locals.
Maybe we'll let one or two haters in, right?
But, like...
Yeah.
But honestly, dude, what I've realized is, like, listening to haters never helps.
Like, them niggas give destructive criticisms that doesn't even fucking help, man.
Oh, no.
Remember, fresh ain't black.
No, sometimes it's good, but a majority of it is bullshit.
Of course.
What else we got here?
Except fresh ain't black, though.
I'm white.
Ladies, name one planet in our soul system.
Can I say Earth?
Do it.
Pluto, Venus, Earth, Venus.
I already fucked it up.
These chicks are delusional.
They have already friend-zoned the real guy.
They should be able to go back and find a big WFNF crew.
You got a chance.
Coco?
You're wrong.
You go, sell your soul, sell your whole, sell your soul.
Goddamn, angry.
Ladies, let the video be a prime example of why you shouldn't do OnlyFans.
It's not good for your mental health and you will regret it in the future.
Another thing, ladies, I hope you're all listening and understanding what Myron and Waltz are telling you is because it will help you to become a better woman for your future boyfriend or husband.
Yeah, I mean, look, man.
When dudes reach a certain level and if a guy's hyper-masculine and got his shit together, he's just not going to commit to a girl that's a sex worker.
He's just not.
He's got to worry about what.
Okay, go ahead.
You're shrugging.
You disagree with that.
Go ahead.
Tell me why you disagree with that.
This is not true.
Okay.
People have their preferences.
You can't just say, like, all men are not going to go for sex work.
I never said all.
I never said all.
Okay.
Then you're right.
The problem is that you're not listening.
That's a trend I've noticed on this podcast.
You don't even listen to yourself because you don't even recall when we say that you said something and you don't even remember saying it.
You've been responding with a lot of emotional responses.
And eyes.
Eyes, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, it's very annoying.
And hand signs.
What I said was, if a guy has his shit together and he's like a traditionally masculine man, he's not gonna pick a sex worker.
Sorry.
Like, that's just what it is.
And that is what most women seek, is a traditionally masculine man that pays the bills, takes care of her, adheres to traditional roles, all that stuff.
Like, he's simply not going to...
If you want a traditional man, right, and you're a sex worker as a female, well, guess what?
You're not a traditional woman.
So it doesn't make sense.
Like, how can you be a non-traditional woman wanting a traditional man in return?
It just doesn't work that way.
Do you think that most sex workers want a traditional man?
Yes.
Most women want a traditional man.
They still want love.
They absolutely do.
Yeah, and they want him to be manly and all that.
Yeah, it's hardwired in your attraction triggers for a guy to just have certain traits and behave a certain way.
So regardless of what that woman does, whether she's a super conservative religious girl or a super liberal feminist girl, she's still gonna want that same archetype of man.
And actually there was a video that came out a couple months ago, we showed it.
This super woke chick from LA, short hair, blonde, Hipster chick, super fucking liberal, used to paying bills half and half on dates and all this other shit.
She went out with a guy that was like a Trump supporter, a conservative, and he said, I'm gonna pay the bill, et cetera.
And she was shocked.
And she was like, oh my God, this guy's like so low-key hot.
They exist.
Because women are designed to be attracted to men that have certain traits.
So whenever a girl says, oh, I want this kind of guy or whatever, and then I look at her and she's of a certain type of caliber, I'm like, Sorry, you don't fucking qualify for that guy.
And I think we need to tell them the honest truth that, quite frankly, a lot of you guys don't qualify for the man that you think you deserve.
True.
Like, sorry.
There's a lot of work to do.
No, sometimes you can't even do the work anymore.
It's over.
We gotta tell some of y'all, finito, it's over.
Like, you don't got a chance.
Some of y'all, that's a man status, bro.
No chance!
You don't have to go ahead and get with a dude that's more average.
But in their mind, it's infinite chances.
No, man.
Like, yeah, chances to fuck.
Like, they're never gonna take you seriously.
Like, you're sitting here saying, like, well, I'm natural right now.
If you were that bad, somebody would have picked you up already.
People tried to pick me up and I said no.
Exactly.
They're losers.
Again, it's not a flex to decline guys that you don't find attractive.
You're saying it's flex.
You've been flexing it all night!
I'm just speaking the truth.
You're doing, man.
Anyway, uh...
31 years old, man.
You used to be on OnlyFans.
You're doomed, bro.
I'm just gonna keep it a million with you.
When I was 22, I was on OnlyFans and then, okay.
You're doomed.
It don't matter.
Like, you're fucking doomed.
I'm just gonna call a spade a spade.
I'll invite you to my wedding.
Hey, man.
You got one of two options.
You're either gonna A, have to get with a more average guy that isn't your top choice, or B, stay single.
I'll invite you to my wedding.
It's gonna be my dream wedding.
I'll put you in the front row.
Well, in order for a wedding to occur, you're going to have to get a guy to commit to you and get down on one knee and say I'll marry you.
I'll let you know.
You'll be invited.
Bro.
If it's not going to be your first choice, I can tell you that.
What are you going to say?
What makes a woman not qualify?
Because you say some of us, we're looking for a man that we don't qualify for.
So from a man standard, and I'm asking just because we're getting different...
Castle Club.
Perspectives.
What makes a woman not qualify?
Is it only the body count?
What other things make a woman not qualify?
There's a multitude of different things.
So, are we on Cast Club yet?
We're in.
Alright, so it's obviously beauty, age, do you have other children, right?
Your money really doesn't matter at all.
Like men, okay, so women make money thinking that it's going to open doors for them.
But making money actually closes doors for you as a female.
Correct.
But men make money and doors open for us.
Because, like, we are okay with dating a girl that's younger than us, that makes less money than us.
We're okay with that.
I don't know why you're...
Stop with these faces, man.
Like, I'm not saying nothing revolutionary.
That's me.
That's who I am.
If you see...
And that's why you're single at 33, man.
I don't know why you make this thank face when I'm saying things that are irrefutable facts.
Men date down and women date up.
It's very simple biology, okay?
So men will date down socioeconomically, women date up socioeconomically.
And men, typically, the more money they make and the more status they have, the more they want an attractive, younger woman.
That doesn't do nothing.
I'm not saying she has to do anything, but women that are younger tend to be more beautiful than women that are older.
Yeah, and they're willing to be with them because they have money.
I guess that's a part of it.
But yeah, that's true.
Women are more likely to be with an older person.
Yes.
Like in general, because I chose older partners always my entire life.
So the reason why women don't qualify for the men they want sometimes is they're too fat.
They have a high body count.
They have kids.
They're just not as attractive as they used to be.
And depending on the guy, right, the more options he has, the more picky he's going to be.
And that's just what it comes down to.
I think like if a woman's in her 30s, like her thinking that she's going to find a guy that's A multi-millionaire and super attractive and charming and no kids and in good shape and stuff.
It's just not realistic, ladies.
It's just not realistic.
It's very low.
Only 15% of the U.S. population makes 100K a year or more.
That's men and women.
And then the top 1% makes 500K per year.
And you're hoping that they're actually straight, not weird, can speak, actually a good person, not an abuser.
The smell.
A lot of women are delusional as to where they actually stand in the pecking order.
There's always a chick that's way more attractive than you, that doesn't give as much lip, that's younger, that's not a pain in the ass.
There's a new girl turning 18 every day, and I think women aren't aware of the fact that you guys have way more competition than you guys think you do.
Matter of fact, they've shown this in studies.
This is why women don't get along with each other as much.
Because women are way more fiercely competitive from an...
From an intersexual dynamic standpoint for mate selecting than men are.
That's why men hold relationships way longer than women do.
Because there's way more sexual competition with women because you guys kind of know deep down that you're competing with each other.
It's just that I don't know if you guys know this like if it's subconscious or consciously but like yeah you guys absolutely have way more competition.
Because as a man, it's easy to diversify yourself.
Go to the gym, make 100k a year, don't be a fucking weirdo, etc.
You're gonna beat out a lot of guys.
But as a woman, guess what?
There's a better chick right down the street, especially in a place like Miami or in a major city.
There's pretty girls everywhere.
Everywhere.
I mean, you could do surgery, but you might die.
Damn, fresh, so dark.
Just saying.
And I don't think women get this.
The traits that men look for...
If I'm going to put this very simply, the traits that men look for are simple to find.
Beauty, youth, not being annoying, not talking too much, etc.
A lot of girls have that shit.
So this is why with men, we're okay with jumping around and men are more likely to cheat, etc.
because our requirements are far less than yours.
So I think the biggest thing is like women kind of got to understand where they stand.
Like if you're obese or you're over 30 or you have kids or whatever, sorry, that knocks you down off a few points, right?
Like you're over here saying you're 31, you get many, and you went, man, you went, well, when you were 21, you had way more options than you have at 31.
You know what I mean?
I still have the same amount of options.
No, you don't, bro.
You're delusional.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
Not at all.
You don't know me.
There's another thing too, right?
So, guys that are like, got their shit together in masks, you think niggas are going to argue with you if they're not on a podcast like me?
You think we're going to sit here and like, yeah, you sure?
Like, I don't know.
Okay.
A big reason, one of the first things dudes do when they make money and get some status is they don't deal with women that talk back.
That's like number one.
That's one of the biggest things dudes do when they start getting money.
They're like, bro, shut up.
I don't make this money to sit here and go back and forth with you.
You know what I mean?
Only brokies argue with women, in my opinion.
That's what I've realized.
Niggas that got their shit together, we don't argue with y'all.
There's no point.
You know?
You guys make nonsensical arguments.
You can't even remember the things that you've said during a podcast.
Like, I don't argue with women.
It doesn't make sense.
Boys do that.
I'm sorry?
Boys do that.
Boys do what?
Argue with women?
Yeah.
Yes, I agree with you.
If I wasn't getting paid for it, I wouldn't be having this discussion with you.
But that's what I'm trying to say, is that, like, guys don't want to sit there and deal with women that are stuck in their ways.
Like, you're 31, you have your own worldviews at this point, which is fine.
But guess what?
A girl that's 21, 20 years old, 18 years old, 19 years old, et cetera, I can teach her how the world really works.
But when a woman's 31 years old...
Mold her?
Huh?
Mold her?
Yes, mold her into the...
Groom her?
Oh, I love this terminology she wants to use.
You know what?
Let's go ahead and play your game.
Yes, I'll groom her to be a better woman.
Okay.
To not be a slut, to understand where her value lies, to teach her how the world really works.
Not do OnlyFans.
Not do OnlyFans, not be stupid, not sit there and argue with a man's authority, think that you're equal to a man, all this other shit, because it don't work.
It doesn't work.
Equality doesn't work.
Okay?
Feminism is a lie.
Okay?
They told you guys that you could be empowered and also the bullshit, but you guys still want a man that makes 58% more than you.
Okay?
Regardless of how much money you make.
I wrote a book on this shit.
This is why men don't like older women a lot of times because y'all are stuck in your ways.
You can't tell me nothing.
I'm successful.
I made myself.
Alright, man.
Stay by yourself.
Go get another girl.
That's just what it is.
Like, older women are stuck in their ways.
You guys have your bad habits and they're formed in.
She's malfunctioning.
No, I'm bisexual.
So, yeah, it makes sense to me.
Like, yeah, I'll find a chick.
Nigga, you're doomed, bro.
You're doomed, man.
You don't know my life.
Trust me, I know you.
Bro, you're doomed, man.
You're doomed, man.
We'll see about that.
We'll see about that.
There's many of you outside.
Oh, we'll see about that.
You're doomed.
Like, you got two multimillionaires telling you you're fucking doomed, bro.
Like, I'm telling you.
Like, niggas that make money like us don't fuck with that shit.
People on the chat, we know they're multimillionaires.
How?
No, I'm talking about us.
I'm telling you what guys like us, like, what we look for in women.
Dudes don't sit there, like, what...
Every successful guy I know, they don't sit there and go back and forth with women.
They don't argue with them or like, get the fuck out of here.
Like, bro, we don't argue with y'all.
You're lucky he's doing it with you right now.
Yeah, like, he's already been, like, checked out.
And she'll tell you, she might have dated a guy here or there because you're a successful business owner, so you probably dated guys that make money.
You think they sit here and go back and forth with you and negotiate?
They might do that on paper.
They might do it for a little bit, but then they're like, alright man, I'm just gonna fuck this girl.
Play the game, get my sex, and then go with another girl that doesn't give me headaches.
The term is called gentleman game.
Gentlemen in real time, but really just playing games.
It's funny because I try to tell girls what guys look for, and then they look at me like, that's not all men.
That's what I was gonna say.
It's like a really eye-opening experience to sit here and listen to what you guys are saying as men.
And it's not for us to be getting all flustered or for these demons within us to be getting all irritated.
It's a simple conversation.
You guys are the men, we are the women, and I'm taking this all in because I really feel like the only reason I don't have a good man right now is because of my kids.
I don't have a high body count.
Yeah, it's going to hold you back.
Yeah, it's going to hold me back.
And I've accepted that.
So, I mean, I don't have a high body count.
Yes, I've slept with men, but I'm not going to say my body count is just crazy.
So for me, this is very eye-opening and I appreciate the dialect, but just watching like the, like, I'm sorry, your demons have just been flustered this whole time.
And I mean, you can't see outside of yourself, but I'm just...
I'm not trying to offend you.
I say this in the most respectful way.
I'm smiling at you.
I'm taking what you're saying.
Yeah, I just...
For me, I'm just like, I'm taking all this information in and taking notes.
Well, this is why...
Men aren't honest.
So the response she's giving right now is how a lot of girls respond when we say shit like this.
And this is why men are not honest with women.
Because if we tell you guys what we really want, we get called insecure.
If we tell you guys what we really need, we get called, oh, you guys are little boys, or you're a bitch, or blah, blah, blah, some other shit like that.
So, like, men are rarely honest with women about anything.
Because if we tell y'all the truth, we might not get laid.
Yep.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's not until a man makes money that he can say, all right, look.
This is what it is.
Take it or fucking leave it.
And then that's when women finally respect.
It's like, okay, well, this guy has options, so you know what?
And it's funny, ironically enough, when you are honest like that and you give her the take it or leave it option, she fucking takes it.
And she accepts it.
But a lot of guys don't have the value to be able to tell a girl straight to her face like, look, man.
This is what it is.
I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth and argue with you.
And then the girl either says, okay, you know what?
Damn, the guy's never told me that before.
I'm turned on.
Okay.
Or she leaves.
But then if she leaves, is she going to find another guy?
Girls typically like guys that can stand up to them.
So anyway, where are we at?
We can go back on the things.
Does anybody else have anything they want to say?
I feel like I've been talking a lot.
Agree, disagree, your points, I don't know.
Anybody?
We got some chats here.
I believe if you find a man that can communicate with you, keep that man.
Nigga, you lost, bro.
He just said that.
Alright, where are we at here?
We got, once compromised, you become not desired seriously.
Stop it.
Alright, I mean, Daniel.
What is more important to a man, hair or body?
Explain your answer.
Hair?
I'll say body bro because you can always change your hair.
Yeah.
But it takes a while to go to the gym and take care of your body.
Also landed my first brand ambassador today.
Ambassadorship.
Couldn't have gotten it done without y'all.
Thanks.
Appreciate that Rico.
Condenser mics need you to speak the fuck up and be close to mic or turn it up.
Moe, WFNF. Those are dynamic.
Okay.
Fresh One said, pandas are fake.
On some level, they are just painted polar bears.
Anyhow, ladies, would you rather fight a polar bear or, I want to say, date the guy in your friend zone?
Okay.
Yeah.
That's right.
No, no.
What the fuck?
Actually, they'd probably rather fight a polar bear.
They'd definitely rather fight a polar bear than date their fucking friend zone guy.
Except the one next to you, Myron, because she watches our show.
Well, polar bears will kill you.
And they won't stop chasing.
Did you guys know that?
Fun fact about polar bears is if you actually encounter one, they're going to chase you the whole way.
That's news to me.
Polar bears are the most dangerous bears.
By far.
Because they're carnivores.
I thought it was a grizzly bear.
Also, they're bipolar.
Yo, Fresh.
That was good, though.
Yeah.
Bro.
Yeah, because, bro, up there in the Arctic, bro, there's no grass or vegetation for them.
I got more jokes if you want more jokes.
Mark, do you know him?
We got more in store.
Do you know this man, Fresh?
Yeah.
You know him?
Yeah, fun fact.
They only eat, I mean, they eat meat because that's all there is there in the Arctic.
They eat seals and shit like that.
Yeah, seals and shit.
Yeah, so, yeah.
So, the worst thing could be is with a polar bear.
One man is fish, next man is you.
Bipolar.
Facts.
Bro, that's I keep hearing women say, I don't do that whole shit, but if another woman does, I won't shame her for trying to get the back.
My question is, do you think women have a responsibility to hold other women accountable for whore behavior?
If not, who should hold women accountable if a man calls you a whore because you hang out with women who act like whores, even if you're not, is he wrong?
Well, here's the thing, bro.
It should be men, but it never will be men.
You got Taylor Swift running around saying, fuck the patriarchy, etc.
You know, and I actually tweeted about that yesterday.
It's never going to be men.
And honestly, guys, I don't think we're ever going to go back to a situation where we have men telling women the truth about what it's got to be because we live in a fatherless society now.
You have no hope.
Enjoy the decline.
What was that?
You have no hope.
No, it's only going to go worse from here.
You can relate.
I mean, look, you know, let's have fun with this.
She said earlier that she divorced.
When she said she divorced, you actually encouraged it.
I wrote it down.
You said, yeah, you made the right decision.
You said you do what you gotta do.
They have no kids.
So?
I feel like if...
Okay.
That's my image.
Yeah, yeah, but...
Okay, see, she didn't, she doesn't even understand what she just reinforced.
So, we live in a society, right, where we tell women, break up a relationship if you're not happy.
Right?
That's what we tell women.
Break up a relationship, get divorced if you're not happy.
Right?
Yes.
I mean...
That's a problem.
If you tried to work it out, and if you tried and it's still not working, why stay somewhere unhappy, make a baby somewhere unhealthy, and continue to be there?
Well, that's the problem, because women are more concerned with their personal happiness when it comes to relationships and marriage versus duty.
That's the issue.
But what about those babies you bring into that marriage that was already not working?
You stick it out with the man and have those kids and at least get them into college or something.
Stick together.
That's what marriage used to be.
It used to be about duty.
I agree with that.
You don't because you just literally said you agree with her for divorcing.
I agree with that before people used to stick it out.
But also kids saw very fucked up things all the time.
And it was just normalized.
And they got over it.
Yep.
And they were fine.
I guess.
Function of adults.
Same thing back then too.
I actually, I would argue they're seeing worse things now.
Yeah.
It's better to be in a somewhat dysfunctional two-parent household than to be in a single mother household.
I know, I mean, I have both of my parents, so I wouldn't know.
Okay, so single mother households are- Should I argue for this?
Yeah, bro.
Come on.
Come on, Hialeah, man, relax.
Man.
Single mother households are by far the leading contributor to degeneracy in America.
Your parents should've divorced.
If you look at, if you look at, you know- Your parents divorced?
Hell yeah.
Oh, that makes sense.
My dad left.
Never came back.
That makes a lot of sense.
If you look at convicted felons, if you look at, you know, drug users, alcoholics, degenerates in general, crooks, they all come from single mother households, the majority of them.
So that is one of the biggest problems.
And I think it's because we live in a society where we tell women, if you're not happy in a relationship, just end it.
Your happiness overrides all.
Because we don't tell women the truth.
When we should be telling them, no, stick your ass in that goddamn relationship, you dumb whore.
Don't fucking go out there.
And I'd hate to use you as an example.
But so many women, right?
Because we live in this internet glamorized world where girls are like, oh, well, you know, the sex in the city lifestyle.
I fear of missing out.
I met him when I was in my 20s.
Now I kind of want to live life or whatever.
What is living life exactly?
Castle Club time.
What is living life exactly, ladies?
Can you guys tell me?
Well, actually, being the person that you're put on this earth to be, you know?
What is that?
What is that?
I'll use myself as an example.
What the fuck?
Go ahead.
Like, I was married.
I got married young.
I was with the same person since I was 20 years old.
It was my very first serious relationship.
We got married.
All this stuff.
It was just like a rush and a wait for me.
And I put all of my stuff on the back burner, even though I still went to college and stuff like that.
But I supported my man.
I was with him, his businesses and everything.
And it's like I was left as like the last when it comes down to everything.
I was giving myself away to everything, the house, him, his businesses, like I said, everything.
And myself and my sanity, my mental health, everything was just depleted, you know?
What the fuck?
When someone is...
That's bullshit, bro.
No, honestly, that's...
That's bullshit, bro.
That's honestly how I felt.
Like, I had to call my mom and say, Mom...
Please pay my bills.
No, no, no.
I need help.
Like, I was drained.
I was like, you know, just...
I lost a baby.
Like, I was stressed.
Like, I was just a lot of...
So it's all about you.
No, it wasn't all about me.
I gave my whole 20s, like, everything to this guy.
My body, like...
Alright, so what did you do wrong?
What did I do wrong?
Yeah, yeah.
Um...
In his eyes, probably leaving him, but...
Wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no.
So...
Beforehand.
Wait, you didn't...
He didn't want to divorce you?
No, he didn't want us to divorce.
That's sad, man.
No, no, no, no, no, fresh.
That's sad.
What did you do wrong, according to your eyes...
Come on, man.
There's no way he did everything wrong and you fucking just left.
I think that's her answer.
Wait, say it again?
Okay, I'll clarify for you.
What?
Sorry.
Alright, what he said is, obviously you listed out what he did wrong in the relationship, right?
Being overbearing, according to you, you were handling a lot of his things behind the scenes.
What do you feel that you did wrong in the relationship?
If anything at all.
If anything.
Well, I would say, like...
When it comes down to me and him, like, I maybe should have been more firm in my, like, decision.
Exactly.
Nothing wrong, Chris.
Nothing wrong.
But no, like, I'm trying to see, like, what do you mean by what did I do wrong?
I have a question.
No, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Let her answer it.
Her answer is the answer.
Good.
I was just thinking if...
Basically nothing.
No, I didn't say that I didn't do anything wrong.
You said it in so many words.
No, I'm just saying, like, he's older than me.
She didn't step up and tell him, I want to, I guess, maybe throw...
How do I say this?
I don't want to do all these tasks.
You didn't step up and tell him.
I feel like, right, my voice was actually not as strong as it should have been.
Like, I allowed a lot of stuff because I was with the same person.
Yeah, I allowed a lot of stuff.
You were just young.
I was young.
I've seen how my mom was with my father.
Like, I took on the same type of guy, you know?
like a powerful guy where you don't feel like you have a voice and I in a way settled because I took on so much responsibility being with this person and I forgot about myself.
It's bullshit bro.
I don't think it's bullshit.
Bro it's bullshit bro.
You want to ask your question go ahead.
And I made it out with my kids.
My question was just if you feel like you didn't speak up for yourself your entire relationship.
You just said.
That's all.
No not my entire like towards the end middle of course.
But a lot of stuff could have went different had I, you know.
Alright, so whenever a girl says she's gonna go find herself, you know what I think to my head?
You want to be a whore.
That's how I look at it.
Because the thing is, when girls say this shit, I want to find myself, right?
That's a bunch of fucking bullshit, man.
When girls say that shit, I want to find myself.
I wasn't happy, so I had to walk away.
That's all translation.
I want to experience other men.
I want to get out here and fulfill myself, whatever it may be.
It's all a lie, bro.
It's a lie.
And here's the other thing, too, I just want to ask.
You met him when you were in your 20s, in your peak.
Do you think you're going to find something better at 30 plus?
Yeah, I've found better after him.
No, no, no.
Do you think you're gonna find a man that's better, that's gonna take you seriously and be willing to give you a ring in his last name and support you?
Yeah, I got engaged after him again.
And why did you go through with the marriage?
Because I'm not ready to be with somebody right now.
I feel like I've been with somebody, like I said, for 10 years.
I'm just not used to being by myself.
So I feel like this is my time to kind of get my career in order, get myself aligned, and prepare myself for the right husband.
And I don't mind getting married again.
How old are you again?
I'm 30.
You have no time.
Emotional damage.
I don't have no time left.
And you came to Miami.
No, I don't live in Miami.
I live in Pittsburgh.
You live in where?
Okay, but yeah, you're in South Florida.
Do you think you actually have a better chance here than back in Atlanta?
Or with the guy that you were with?
Oh, Atlanta is even worse.
It's crazy out there.
No, we got more attractive women down here than in Atlanta.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Way more.
Well, yeah, it's a lot of, I'm saying, like, the men pull.
I'm not attracted to women.
Okay, so you came to a place where there's less attractive men and more attractive women.
Because there's less gay there.
That's what she means.
Right.
Yeah, no, I understand that.
I understand that, but, like, do you not hear, like, do you see the math?
Like, you came to a location where there's less qualified men But more attractive women.
So you just went from like hard mode to super hard mode coming down here.
But that's not my concern.
Like, that's like being with them.
I'm 30!
It's literally not my concern.
That's just like, if someone come out of marriage, like they've already experienced that, they've been through that.
Like my life path and everything that I'm on now is different from somebody that's never been married, they got kids or whatever.
It's not that I want to be free.
I'm just saying that my My mindset is not on, oh, I need to get married, and oh, I need to do this.
I've already done that.
So it's just different.
But it should be if you want it.
If I want it, but I've already had it.
So you don't want it at all?
I'm not saying I don't want it at all, but right now, no, I don't want to be married right now.
That was a lot of, like, y'all don't understand.
Have any of y'all ever been married before?
Fresh.
I have been.
And I can say this right now.
And been married for a long time?
Yep.
No, only one year.
One person?
Stupid!
Have any of y'all been with the same person y'all started out with?
Like your high school sweetheart or like your college sweetheart?
Are you asking us or are you asking the girls?
Because for men, like marriage for us is a completely different assortment than it is for you guys.
Like if I was a girl and I was 30 years old and I was single, I'd be fucking panicking.
Like if I was 27.
And that's the problem.
That is why so many women in America are unmarried, depressed on antidepressants, anxiety medication, all y'all fucking pop Xanax and shit.
It's because you guys, right, don't understand that your value is perishable.
Like as a woman, you're...
I'd start panicking if I was 27 as a female, knowing what I know now as a guy.
And she's laughing.
Named Coco.
And she's laughing.
But like, I'm dead ass.
Like, every year that you get older, your chances of finding a guy go down.
And then on top of that, your value goes down alongside it.
Because guess what?
You're never going to look as good as you did when you were 21 if you're 31.
That's fine.
Sorry.
Like, it is what it is.
This is just biology.
And men are naturally attracted to more fertile women.
Right.
You know, so I find it incredible how women will be in their late 20s or 30s and not have any sense of urgency to find a man.
And here's the other thing, too.
We know this for a fact.
Women derive most of their pleasure being around other people and family, not from a career, not from money, etc.
Would you give up your career right now for your kids if you needed to?
Yeah.
You would, right?
Yeah.
But you would not give up your kids for your career.
You wouldn't give up your kids for your career.
But you would absolutely give up your career for your kids.
See?
So, this is a woman that's a very successful entrepreneur.
She still puts her kids over the business.
And I'll be honest with you.
I was in an eight-year relationship.
We got engaged.
And when I got pregnant with my two-year-old, he got another woman pregnant.
That's why I called off the engagement.
But being in the dating pool and seeing what's out there, he still wants to go through and get married, even with that baby.
I was having a hard time accepting that baby, but seeing what's out here in the dating world, I literally have had this conversation with myself, and I'm like, I might as well just go back to my baby dad.
Yeah, you gotta take what you can get, man.
I am in complete agreement with what you guys are saying tonight because I'm speaking from experience.
We're not just talking shit, right?
You're 100% correct.
And here's the thing, you got an older woman here, confirming what I'm telling y'all, and I'm telling you how men really think.
And then the girls are looking at me like, that's not true, blah, blah, blah.
Literally, yo, if you're in your mid-20s or above, like 27 older, and you don't have a serious boyfriend, and you actually want to have a family and have kids, And you're still single?
Like, that's fucking panic time.
Like, you need to...
And here's the problem, too, with you ladies, right?
Not you ladies, but women in general in America is what I realize is...
They look at men as an accessory versus a need, right?
They look at it like...
I want a man, but I don't really need a man.
And when you operate like that, right, from a point of like, I just want it.
Myron, please do not fall for the Taylor Swift anti-propaganda.
Of course not, though.
She was shush T-T-I-N-G on and quoting her male feminist ex-boyfriend, Jake Gyllenhaal, I think, when she said, F the patriarchy.
No, it's a part of her song when she said that.
The fuck the patriarchy.
So, like, a lot of women operate from their lens of, I just want a man, but I don't need a man.
And I think that's one of the most self-destructive mindsets.
Because, what if I walked around and I said, you know what?
I only wanna go to the gym, but I don't need to go to the gym.
Well, am I gonna go to the gym all the time, even when I don't feel like it?
No, I'm only gonna go when I feel good, right?
So, same thing with women.
I'm only going to go ahead and do the bare minimum to get a guy because I just want him.
But when you need something, like oxygen or whatever, you'll fight to fucking get it, correct?
And I don't think women understand or have the sense of urgency that a man is going to be what leads you to fulfillment.
Because a man brings children, children bring a family, and then that gives you the happiness that you want as a female.
Like, with us men, our value is based on our ability to create a name for ourselves, make money, acquire status, and provide for a family.
You guys, on the other hand, is finding a man that can provide that and then having a family with said man.
Women are way more interested in people than things.
We're interested in things, you guys are interested in people.
This is why women are more socially aware than men are.
Most men are socially retarded.
Most women are very well socially aware.
It's one of the few things that women are actually better than men at, is social awareness.
I just find it interesting when girls say they don't have an urgency to find a guy when it's like literally gonna be the linchpin between you being happy or you being depressed for the rest of your life.
And another thing too, I also want to say, which feminists never say this, like since the 1970s, right, women have gotten more and more power, more and more authority, more and more education, more and more money.
Why is it that life happiness and fulfillment has gone down since the 1970s?
Even though women have made more money, become more successful, have more freedom than ever before?
Well, it's because marriage rates have plummeted, divorce rates have went sky high, women aren't having kids like they used to.
And that is one of the biggest things for a woman to have fulfillment is to have a family and children.
So it's incredible to me that girls will be in their 30s and be like, I'm not rushing.
80% of your ex are gone at 30.
I can understand being in a long-term relationship with somebody and want to have a little break, so to speak.
But, I mean, you left for a dumb reason, to be honest with you.
No, it wasn't.
I don't feel like it was a dumb reason.
No, it really was.
Just because you didn't feel it anymore?
No, that's not the reason why I left.
Look, you're 10 years older.
You're a little bit bigger, no offense, right?
Do you really think you're going to be able to find...
That same guy or on that level, not just find him and date him and talk to him.
No, no, no.
That doesn't count.
Keep him.
But keep him and actually get him to take you seriously in a market that's harder than where you were in Atlanta?
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of guys that, you know, try to pursue me, date me and all that stuff since my divorce.
Even my ex, you know?
Well, one cheeseburger away.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Whatever, man.
Women are doing it, bro.
They're fucking doing it, man.
It doesn't make sense.
Ten years older, you've already been married before, right?
I know you said that you struggled to have a kid before and you lost a kid.
It's only going to get harder from here.
And it's like there's no sense of urgency at all.
See, he actually cares.
I'm on his side.
I start giving a fuck.
Here's the thing.
When my sister was 28, I had a very difficult talk with her.
She was going to med school.
She was about to be a doctor or whatever the fuck.
And I literally told her, I was like, look, you fucking dumb bitch.
You need to fucking find a guy now while you're still in your 20s.
And you get older, you're going to have this money and shit like that.
It's going to be way harder for you.
Fucking find a guy now.
Wait.
She got lucky and she found her.
I answered this last time.
You called her dumb bitch?
Yeah, bro.
That's brotherly sisterly love.
Because women are stupid.
I genuinely believe a woman without instruction is headed for destruction.
Men are lead, women follow.
This is why fathers are so goddamn important.
Amen.
Because you guys...
Literally go off of how you feel, your emotions, etc.
Now are there some women out there that are rationally sound and can have good deductive problem solving skills?
For sure.
But to be honest, most of y'all are fucking retarded and don't know really anything about how the world works or how to lead a family or anything like that.
So you need that masculine influence in your life because we think rationally most of the time.
You guys think rationally some of the time.
And that's if you're lucky for keeping it real.
I can agree.
Okay, what are you gonna say first?
Let me remind you for keeping it real.
Bro, I saved a life, man!
Actually, I should try that.
Alright, let's move on.
What?
No, but she's really smart, though, so.
Well, I mean...
Kind of.
Blackest Panther.
I keep...
Oh, we go back to YouTube.
I keep hearing women say, I don't do that hoe shit, but if another woman...
Biggest red flag in a man, and what's your biggest red flag?
Ladies name, two states other than Florida and Texas.
Do we got time?
No, we don't, right?
No.
Alright, we gotta get going here.
Okay, real quick.
First guy's 75 on the 75.
No, no, no, sorry.
I meant to say the Henny meter for Chris.
Get off the screen, man.
Rico Savage said 100 bucks.
Don DeMarco.
You're doing a terrible job representing our area.
It's also why I don't date women like y'all.
Also, why y'all do the worst on dating apps, plus I'm 25?
Oh, he's talking about black women.
Yeah.
He's saying...
Oh, okay.
I hate to say this, too.
I forgot to mention this to you, ladies.
Black women...
We are on YouTube, man.
Oh, we're on YouTube?
Oh, go back.
Go back.
Well, this is actually a fact, but I'll say it anyway.
This is dangerous, man.
Go back and forth, bro.
No, it's not.
They just stopped me just like they did now.
Alright, go ahead, Marvin.
Okay, so they did a study, right, from dating apps.
I mean, it's a bit dated.
It's from like 2013 or 2014 or whatever.
But they found that black women had the lowest approval ratings on dating apps.
In general.
They had the least response rates and the least amount of races like them.
So that's another thing I think black women need to be cognizant of when they're out here dating and looking for men, etc.
You already are fighting an uphill battle with a chip on your shoulder as far as a lot of men aren't even going to consider you a viable candidate.
It's one thing for a guy to want to get on a knee and propose to you, and it's another thing for some white dude to say, I've got to knock this off my bucket list and fuck a black chick.
Which a lot of them all say that.
FYI. They'll date a black girl just for the LOLs and be like, okay, I did it.
I fucked a black girl.
But like, are they going to get down on one knee and propose to y'all?
A lot of the times it's a no.
Unless you can as the winds.
She's a bad bitch.
But you're not Candace gets it says yo Moe when you gonna link up for the new single mom song bro?
Fuck that nigga, man.
Don't ever mention that shit again.
If you want to invest in VA, do Reston or Tyson's.
I think you can talk about me making my own version.
Ladies, raise your hand if you're vaccinated.
Well, she did live in New York for a while.
Yeah, I had to.
Forced that shit.
Yeah, no, they made me.
Damn, bro.
New York is trash.
Yeah, they literally made me.
Who else is vaccinated in here?
Hold on, hold on.
No?
Okay.
No, it's cool, it's cool.
Don't worry.
Ladies, three countries or what's your credit?
Okay, that's such a pretty good one.
Yeah, okay.
Countries or credit score?
I could do both.
And you can't name USA, Mexico, Canada?
Monaco, Iraq, and the Vatican is a country.
The Vatican is a country.
You can cool it.
But if not, Afghanistan.
Is it really?
Okay.
It's in Italy, right?
Yeah, but they have their own laws and they're a dependent country from everything else.
640.
Okay.
Well, she is a...
Not too bad.
It's a female, right?
What about you?
Three countries.
What?
Three countries.
Three countries.
She's correct, Mo?
Yeah.
All right.
What are something new every day?
Just name three?
Yeah, just three.
China, India, what did you say, Afghanistan?
No, you can't.
I can't say that.
Where do you want to travel to to go eat?
Where do I want to go travel to to go eat?
Yeah.
Like France for like the...
What?
You're helping.
You're helping.
Now she can't say France.
Oh, my bad.
Sorry.
Okay, answer the question.
Ask the question again.
One more country.
Three countries.
I already said that.
But you got one more.
Yeah, one more.
Can't name U.S., Mexico, or Canada.
Yo, I got one in my head for...
Say it.
No, but you got it.
I'll say it after you say it.
Turkey?
No, what?
Why are you helping?
Why are y'all helping?
No, Chris, stop, man.
There's a country, nigga!
No, no, no.
One more.
Vacation?
Um, I don't know.
Bali?
That's where I want to go.
Okay, all right, cool.
For a vacation?
That's where I want to go.
No, you're not going to say.
I was going to say hungry.
I'm so proud.
Okay, what about you?
What about you?
That's the first time you've said a funny joke, bro.
In a very long time.
For a long time, I've been quiet.
I've been super PC. Hold on, shut the fuck up.
And I realized, right?
For a long time, I was being PC because...
I was working on shit behind the scenes.
That's complete.
I can be myself and relax.
Feel me?
So now I can talk my shit because I'm complete in that sense.
No pun intended.
It's okay, man.
He can't even speak, bro.
Yeah, you can't.
I'm actually very articulate in the right environments, okay?
She's like, no, you can't.
Nigga, she's hungry.
What the fuck?
And you're ugly.
Oh!
Don't do it.
It's fuck, actually.
Oh, shit.
A fork down.
You over the roof?
She didn't double down.
No.
Oh, shit.
Okay, I'm being nice to you.
I asked you the extra question again.
I'm just kidding.
No, no, no.
Okay, and I'm just kidding, too.
Thank you so much.
Roast, man.
Let's go, man.
No, let's not choose violence today.
What about the countries?
All right, I'm going to name my three countries so we can move on.
All right.
You can roast the bag if you want.
I think the chow would enjoy it.
It's fine.
It's okay.
Come on.
I've been through a lot.
I've been burnt a couple times.
In the face.
She's that ugly as fuck, man.
She's like, go down.
She's like, damn, nigga.
See?
See?
I can understand my attributes, and I'm not going to deny anything.
But what I will say is...
What I will say is...
Pete has his perks.
What?
Okay.
And I love it.
Alright.
Cheers.
Okay.
That was irritating.
We still on YouTube?
Yes, we are.
Oh, we still are?
No, we're fine.
It's okay, nigga.
She said you ugly.
It's funny.
All right.
It is funny.
And they got a tic-tac-toucher for Chris.
Oh, and my credit score is at a 700.
Okay.
Okay.
Good job.
Good job.
I didn't even get to answer that because I was interrupted, but...
No, no, no.
I'm a proud of your credit score.
You deserve it.
Thank you.
All right.
Europe, Russia, Africa.
That's all I got for you.
What the hell?
What?
Why?
What?
You have your own business?
Number one?
Listen, I gotta be in history.
I ain't a shame.
History?
History?
That's all I got for you.
That's all I got for you.
Yo, what the fuck?
Yo, that's the worst I've ever experienced.
She was so eager to answer to you, bro.
She was eager and confident.
That's what I got for y'all.
I forgot.
What else?
She said, she said, Europe, Africa, Russia.
I said Europe, Africa, Russia.
She named three countries.
She named two continents, one country.
Bro.
Yeah, I ain't ashamed.
History was not my best.
Geography.
Geography.
History is wild, bro.
Same shit.
You stupid.
Damn.
All right.
Just prepare to fight me.
You have four kids?
What does that have to do with anything?
Your son is 14!
Who the fuck help him?
I hope he's more than me.
Shit, homeschooled him, bro.
They definitely had homeschooled, bro.
I hope not.
Your son is 14, bro.
He's watching right now, punching the fucking hair.
Okay, when have y'all really even used that for that information?
Come on, be serious.
Mom, shut the fuck up, mom.
I know America, okay?
There's almost 200 countries.
Mom, I want to stop that.
I'm scared.
I'm not gonna do no better.
My credit score?
Last time I checked it was like a 740.
That's almost perfect.
What about you?
I don't think that counts because we mentioned it.
You got this, yeah.
Italy.
Okay.
No, that doesn't count.
You got to name two more.
Or three more, but continue on.
North Korea.
Okay.
Two more.
South Korea.
All right.
One more.
Afghanistan.
She said Afghanistan.
Pakistan.
Good job.
Okay.
All right.
Credit score.
Is that bad?
Credit score?
It's only 579.
No, Pakistan don't count because you mentioned about your tattoo.
Sorry.
Came up earlier in the show.
I wrote it down.
Oh!
Actually, I didn't even write it down.
I just memorized it.
I memorized what y'all be saying.
Croatia.
Okay.
Right on the fly, too.
Good stuff.
What about you?
What about you?
Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia.
She's Colombian.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Those are the most low-key countries.
720, okay.
We got high power today.
What about you?
Hi, Leah.
Hi, Leah.
Amen.
That's all I got for you.
Cuba.
Yeah?
Yeah, I'm gone.
Wait, you really don't got a country?
South America.
Okay.
Okay, two more?
Asia.
Okay.
Okay, what more you got this?
Alright, go ahead.
Antarctica I apologize to my history teachers Yo, I told you about it.
Yo, this is crazy, bro.
My teachers only knew about Cuba.
Bruh.
You stupid.
Didn't even mention Cuba.
You stupid.
Well, you couldn't.
She wouldn't have been allowed to.
Humanity has lost its own.
We're fucking doomed, bro.
And she has a kid, my wife.
Nigga, her kid's doomed.
Precious Update says, Me and Mo are playing tic-tac-toe.
A.V. I met this girl at the store, got her number, and went on two dates.
I smashed on the second date, but the next time I tried to link with her, she said she didn't want to smash because she felt disgusted for herself for smashing so soon.
She said she's not smashing again until she's ready.
We can still make out, though.
What does this mean?
That's called buyer's remorse.
You didn't build enough rapport.
You didn't build enough rapport.
And here's the thing, you probably made her feel like a slut after you had sex with her.
And also, bro, that D-game was probably terrible, bro.
Yeah.
Just keeping a fuck with you, bro.
That could be a component as well.
She might be nice to you because...
Yeah, that might be a component too.
So yeah, but yeah, you didn't...
My friend, she has buyer's remorse for me, so...
Nigga, you could kiss, that's it?
Nah, we fucked up somewhere.
Be honest, I wouldn't even fuck with her no more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't think my message was read last time from Detroit here.
I don't know why Sneeko went, but it's Sim City.
Much love, Myron.
However, I own a fine dining restaurant, and some are scams, but ours is not.
Homemade, top 25 in USA Today.
Tough business to be in in 92 hours a week.
We don't hire women because they're slow and weak.
Goddamn, nigga.
If we do, then most I sleep with.
What the fuck?
They ask, not me.
Also, I support your show.
Balsa Birch and my ladies love wearing them.
I'll be on the show some days as a special guest.
What is good D-game?
Chris, what are you saying?
What is good D-game according to you girls?
D-game?
When the faucet turns on.
Wait, so...
Can it go wrong?
When she squirts.
Oh, no, no, no.
Okay, I was like, wait, what?
No, no, like, when it's good to be in two girls.
I ain't gonna lie, I like that one.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I don't mean, girls.
There's your answer, nigga.
All right, man.
The henny's hitting.
Yeah.
You know how I know that Chris is like drinking?
Nigga opens his mouth.
And then he talks.
You catch that?
The longer the pause before a word is said.
Why?
Because we do it live, man.
Yeah, okay.
See what I say, some bullshit.
Yo, Chris, man, what the fuck?
And he'll open his mouth, and the word that he's going to say next doesn't require it, but we do it live, man.
You don't have to open up your mouth that wide to say we do it live.
My first time seeing Chris really drunk was at the Club Van Dome, and he came with a girl.
He looked at me and said, please help me.
I'm like, what's wrong?
I don't know what he's saying.
I'm like, okay, Chris, are you okay?
Chris was like, I'm like, nigga, talk!
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, so...
And then I was like, okay, Chris, come on.
Fresh don't talk in clubs at all because he can't talk at all.
Nigga, how do I get my girls home?
Bro, you don't...
You don't funny about Chris, right?
This nigga comes to...
Hold on, hold on.
Chris comes to the club, right?
Drunk as fuck, I wonder why he goes home alone.
I go to the club, sober as fuck.
Home alone?
I go home with a chick.
Nigga, who's getting results?
Nigga, you have a lab on, nigga!
Bro, I don't drive every single day.
And also, hold on, wait, Chris.
They don't know what happens until I leave the club.
So ultimately, nigga, you suck, and you can't even talk, and they're like, oh, what's he saying?
And I'm like, nigga, you retarded.
But guess what?
I leave the club with a chick.
And I go home to my crib, and I'm happy.
So what are you saying?
If I had Lambo, and I stuttered, and I was like...
Chris, even with a Lambo, you're a dumbass with a get-bitches, you know why?
I don't know what you're saying.
You need games.
Listen, Lambo does some work.
But guess what?
You don't even talk in the clothes, bro.
Nigga, I do.
What are you saying?
See, ladies, we roast each other.
Like, nigga, what are you saying, bro?
I love this.
Alright, Fresh, man.
Nigga, you can't even speak in the clothes.
No, Fresh, I ain't gonna fuck with you, man.
Like, please not get deep, man.
I fuck with you, too.
But I'm just saying, Chris, when you're drunk, nigga, you don't know what you're saying.
I still fuck bitches, man.
No, no, Chris, I believe you.
But not talking to them.
Okay.
You know, if I have Lambo, man, it'll be over, man.
Chris, you keep saying Lambo like you're something...
Bro, fuck, you have a GY, get a Lambo, a McLaren, nigga, like, come on, man.
Chris, you're forgetting where we live.
We live in Miami.
Niggas got Rolls Royces, Lambo's, nigga, Lambo doesn't do shit over here, nigga.
Fuck.
For you, it does.
No, bro, you...
Bro, I have the most hated...
Chris, I have the most hated podcast in Miami.
Yeah, I know, and you still have fucked bitches.
But hold on, hold on, hold on.
The point is that, like, even though I put up with Lambo, I have objections, I have, like, other shit, so I need to talk to them to get past that barrier.
Like, you, on the other hand, can't say shit!
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you want to talk?
Hero!
What?
That's our nigga hero, man!
Nigga, flesh!
Don't tell me!
Me, Myron, and you with that blackbird, you said, alright nigga, alright, oh, you wanna see my dog?
Nigga, you fucked girls that night.
First been fuckin' since I first met them, right?
Why is this important, Chris?
Why?
Because you have to have dogs and cars to fuck bitches.
Not really, but, I mean, it's not small, man.
Chris, before I had a dog, before I had a car, what was I doing, Chris?
I don't know, nigga.
Like, tech?
Shut up.
You don't know anything.
No, no, no.
But I've seen you, though.
Bro, my roommate came here, Casey came here, right?
Some of the justice battle of the speech impediments.
Hold on!
Hold on!
I got facts, man.
I'm going to order that much around, nigga.
But I'm tipsy, and he's sober.
Which is very important.
Before all of this shit happened, I had a roommate, right?
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