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June 14, 2024 - Fresh & Fit

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Marc Lobliner Returns

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	Thank you.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Freshly Podcast.
	We are here with the legend himself, Mark Lobline, and let's get into it!
	All right, let's go.
	Let's go.
	All right.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to the Fresh Fade Podcast.
	Guys, sorry for the delay.
	We should have started this sooner, but just so you guys know, well, rumble.com, sorry, Fresh Fade, that's the first thing I was going to say.
	We're using Rumble Studio right now, guys, so that kind of altered things.
	That's why you guys probably saw an event here, then an event here, etc.
	Some of y'all might be on another stream, etc.
	So I expect that the numbers are going to go up here now in a second, now that we're live.
	But yeah, we apologize about that, guys.
	It's obviously a new system that we're using, so we're trying to incorporate it in.
	It's the first time.
	So, shout out to Rumble, and we're using their, it's kind of like their interface, kind of like a restream for all you guys out there that are like, you know, creators and wondering what the hell is Rumble Studio.
	It's still new.
	It's similar to restream where we're able to be on all the platforms at once, etc.
	Also guys, castclub.tv, Matt, go ahead and check us out over there.
	That is where we do all the stuff.
	You find all the content there.
	We also provide exclusive deals and discounts to our members over there.
	We're going to actually be doing a Zoom call with Mark.
	On Cal's Club, where you guys are going to be able to ask questions about fitness, nutrition, getting in shape, you want to compete at a high level, get a pro card, whatever it may be.
	From a bodybuilding standpoint, we've got an expert right here running a supplement company, wildly successful in his own life, married, children.
	Literally, a guy has it all, man, going for himself.
	So definitely someone that you can go ahead and pick the brain of in our Cal's Club.
	Speaking of fitness, we did an actual live stream in the gym.
	It was Bills, Moe, myself, and Myron.
	Yes, we were in there.
	A little gym session, so go check it out.
	Yeah, so that was a good time.
	That's on there as well.
	But yeah, sorry for the delay, guys.
	We were coming from the gym, doing all this other stuff, so that's kind of what happened.
	And anything else?
	Two weeks away from the yacht party.
	Guys, we got the yacht party.
	It's going to be June 28th, guys.
	It's going to be Friday.
	We're going to be live streaming it.
	We're going to go ahead and extend the discount for y'all a little bit longer because we literally had a flood in Miami the past few days.
	It was really bad.
	We couldn't even...
	If we had went to Sarasota, we would have probably been stuck there.
	So we're going to go ahead and extend it to you guys until Monday.
	So you guys have over the weekend to go ahead and get your tickets at the price point of only $3,500.
	And then it's going to go up to...
	Or if you're not a Cals Club member, it's going to be $3,995.
	So if you guys want to go ahead and...
	Get a discount, obviously.
	Yeah, it's a little pricey.
	I get some people might say, man, that's so expensive.
	Well, we want a certain demographic of people there.
	It's going to be a lit party.
	We are more concerned with quality over quantity on this one, and we want it to be as exclusive as possible.
	It's going to be open bar, a bunch of hot chicks, etc.
	Racial is going to be lit.
	It's going to be a good time.
	Also, who's on the boat as well?
	And the Rolex is going to be giving it to the winner.
	Yeah, we're going to be giving a Rolex giveaway, etc.
	So it's going to be a very upscale thing, guys.
	But other than that, go ahead.
	We'll drop the link in the Cast Club right now for you guys to go ahead and get in there.
	We already got a couple people that took advantage of the discount for cryptocurrency.
	Shout out to you, man.
	So shout out to you.
	I already bought.
	And yeah, June 28th, guys.
	It's going to be a movie.
	It's going to be litty.
	Yeah, and it's for our Cast Club members at that price point.
	And then obviously more expensive if you're not a part of the Cast Club.
	Get in there, man.
	35 bucks.
	Save you 500.
	Anyway, without further ado, we've got a special guest now.
	It's Mark.
	Welcome.
	Welcome back.
	It's great to be here, man.
	This place is amazing.
	Yes, you haven't been here since the last one.
	Yeah, since the last show.
	Man, it's great to be here.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	It's always great to be on.
	Yeah, man.
	We're happy to have you.
	Yeah, dude.
	For the people, I mean, I know who you are because you're OG on YouTube.
	You've been on YouTube for a very long time.
	I remember watching you since like 2012, 2013.
	Yeah.
	You know, boom!
	You know, with the intro and everything else like that.
	Still do it.
	Yeah.
	So can you introduce yourself to the people, for those that may not know?
	So, I'm Mark Loblin.
	I own a company called TigerFitness.com.
	Also have a company called Ambrosia.
	Ambrosia, I own it alongside Microsheed.
	You guys might know Microsheed and Shantor Body.
	Yes.
	We have the number one selling plant protein at the vitamin shop.
	And now it's Sprouts.
	It's all your local Sprouts.
	All of our products are in there.
	Have the Outright Bar, as well as MTS Nutrition.
	Have a couple other ventures going on, but have a youth performance facility in Franklin, Tennessee, where we train youth athletes to be bigger, faster, stronger.
	We like to take kids who have a goal of playing ball in college, and Make them that type of athlete.
	Make them better.
	Help them reach their goals.
	Yeah, help them get Division I. Oh yeah, absolutely.
	We got kids who come in who are D2, D3 level athletes and we'll get them to top D1 schools.
	Nice.
	It's the best.
	Is it for any specifics?
	You said ball.
	Are we talking basketball?
	All sports.
	All sports.
	We got shot putters.
	We got female lacrosse, female soccer.
	We got football, basketball.
	We have everything going on because wrestling is a big thing for us.
	We train actual...
	High schools will outsource us to actually train their specific teams.
	So we're at a couple different high schools.
	Nolensville High School, we do their wrestling team.
	Paige, we do their football.
	Centennial Baseball, those are all local schools in Franklin.
	It's my passion.
	I wish...
	When all this is said and done, I will be doing that full-time.
	But I have a guy named Bryce, and he's our head coach.
	He's the guy in charge of everything.
	Bryce is a genius, the best at what he does.
	And he literally sold a...
	He owned his own facility in Illinois, sold it...
	Because of the vision we have with Legacy.
	So it's just a dream.
	Yeah.
	I mean, sports and conditioning is not easy, man.
	It's very...
	It's critical.
	I mean, when I was a rower in college, like, sports and conditioning is literally, like, the difference maker between having a successful season or a terrible season.
	Are you able to rehab from the injuries, or do you stay injured?
	It's critical.
	It's about being faster.
	We had a kid, his name's DJ. He came to us.
	He ran a 5.3.
	Okay.
	In eight weeks, he gained 35 pounds.
	He was running a 4.6 at a combine.
	Wow.
	So, I mean, the results may vary, but you have a kid who's trained with high school, and high school coaches, they try their best, but they're not strength coaches.
	It's not what they do.
	That's like me trying to coach volleyball.
	And 9 out of 10 times, it's like a second job.
	It's not what they really do full-time.
	They're getting a $3,000 a year stipend to do it.
	Whereas, we work, we focus, we know what we're doing, we know how to get them faster, get them stronger, and honestly, just seeing these kids succeed.
	And I know the role that sports plays in keeping kids out of trouble, keeping kids straight and focused, and just getting to the next level.
	We have some kids who, if they don't play ball in college, There's an issue with what they're going to do next in life.
	They don't know what's going on.
	So I really believe that the future of the country can be saved by youth sports.
	I get crap about that all the time.
	I'll say that.
	I'll tweet that.
	I'll be like, youth sports can save the world.
	But no, it can't.
	I'm like, you have to think about the overall statement of that.
	It's discipline.
	And also just having a strong male influence is really good to have.
	So we provide that for these children.
	Man, I was on Twitter yesterday, and Tom Brady gave a very moving speech, I saw it, talking about, you know...
	As a matter of fact, can we pull up my Twitter?
	I want the people to kind of hear this.
	And he talked about, you know, playing sports, how important it is to building character.
	Obviously, you're suffering, it sucks, etc.
	You're tired, you don't want to do it.
	But it leads to so many other benefits.
	And I remember...
	As a athlete in college, and I played sports when I was in high school too, obviously not at the same level as Division I, but it really turned me into the man I am today and it kept me away from a lot of stupid shit.
	I never had an interest in trying drugs or smoking weed or skipping school or doing anything like that because I knew I had to keep my grades up.
	And then when I was in college, I knew obviously I had to keep my grades up even higher to be able to continue to participate.
	And then the camaraderie, the discipline, you forge friends for life to this day.
	There's guys I still talk to that are on the team that we wrote together.
	And when you commiserate with each other and you're traded and you all feel like shit, it builds a certain bond and it teaches certain characteristics that you simply can't pay for.
	And it's very easy to tell if someone like When you meet a young man or you meet a guy that has actually achieved something in their life, whether it's through sports or whatever it may be, and they're a competitive guy, it kind of shows in other endeavors in their life.
	I agree with you 100%.
	I think youth sports is something that should be mandatory.
	All little boys and all little girls need to be involved in some type of sport or playing an instrument or something that will keep them in a competitive mind state.
	And I think sports is one of the best ways to keep kids away from stupid shit because if they're playing sports, number one, they're too tired to focus on doing anything too stupid.
	They don't have the time.
	They have friends that are like-minded that keeps them away from stupid stuff.
	And I think when you're in your teenage years, right, and then into college, like, these are the formative years where you can literally, like, make or break or ruin your future.
	And I think youth sports literally keeps kids away from stupid stuff.
	I mean, we've lost camaraderie in society nowadays, brotherhood as well.
	And what you're saying with youth sports, man, I mean, that's what it is nowadays, because most people don't have that.
	And as a result, you go to youth sports, they stay out of trouble.
	So it's a win-win all around.
	So, I have three children, an 18-year-old daughter, a 16-year-old son, and an 11-year-old son, so there's two rules in my house.
	The only two rules, and it made our house perfect.
	It made upbringing really good for us.
	The two things they must do is they must...
	Do a combat sport and they must do a team sport because they both develop different qualities within the individual.
	Combat sports are amazing.
	So all of my kids boxed and then all of my kids wrestled.
	My daughter was a regional champ.
	My 11-year-olds won state.
	My son, he went to regionals this year.
	My 16-year-old.
	So our kids all did that.
	They started with soccer and my daughter played soccer throughout high school, decided not to play in college.
	She's going off to college next year.
	And Playing a team sport and playing a combat sport teaches them things that you can't teach them.
	And also, when you have kids, I have three kids, my kids don't see enough adversity.
	We live in Brentwood, Tennessee.
	It's the third richest city in the country.
	It's the richest city in Tennessee.
	These kids have it easy.
	They have it good.
	How else am I gonna teach them adversity than to have them play sports?
	My kids wrestle.
	I don't know if you guys are familiar with wrestling.
	Let's say you're wrestling at home, and this girl you like is watching you wrestle, and you get pinned like a bitch.
	That will teach you humility.
	That will teach you so many things that you can't learn that I can't show them, because we're not poor.
	I didn't need wrestling.
	I was plenty poor.
	I had plenty of adversity.
	But my kids need that, and I think all children can benefit that.
	And then you go to the inner cities.
	What will keep these kids out of trouble?
	You look at all these kids who go to college and get out of their situation.
	Some kid in the inner city, and that's their ticket out.
	If they don't play sports, it's going to be hard for them to climb out.
	Systemically, it is very hard to get out of the hood.
	It is.
	Yeah, I mean, I think, just to add to this as well, if you're a single mother out there, and you're wondering why your kids aren't doing good, put them in your sports, man.
	Keep them on the streets.
	Yeah, because they're able to get that masculine figure to help them out.
	As a coach, you can coach the young guy.
	Listen, brother, this is not the way you should go.
	Let's stay in sports, focus, and look, we don't always have dads in our lives, but a coach could be your dad, in a way.
	We've played that role.
	I mean, we do.
	You know, even if you have a father, there's never enough positive male role models.
	And I say that, and I know a lot of people are going to take this, like, what about the female plays their role?
	That's your nurturer.
	That's someone that's a caretaker.
	That's someone we fall down, they clean off your cut.
	We had this joke.
	When my kids would fall, I'd always say rub some dirt on it.
	And my wife would be like, oh my god.
	I'm like, you're fine.
	Just rub some dirt on it.
	So there's a different level that you need both male and female to really make the child prosper.
	Now kids can do that.
	Single mothers are successful.
	But if you're a numbers guy like me, statistically, you're more likely to succeed in a dual parent household.
	It's just the numbers don't lie.
	It's irrefutable.
	I have some friends in NFL that legit call their coaches over their dad sometimes.
	I'm like, wow, that's crazy.
	That bond is strong.
	We get that a lot.
	We get that a lot.
	I mean, I see kids that I coached.
	I remember my son played his old soccer team from Illinois, and I coached those kids.
	We saw him a few years later.
	He actually played his old team.
	We won.
	But they still call me Coach Mark.
	They don't need to call me Coach Mark, but they'll always see me as a coach.
	They'll always see me as someone who pushed them to be their best.
	And that's the beauty of coaching.
	That's why I encourage every person watching, whether you have children, want to have children, hell, you have nephews and nieces, coach.
	Get out there.
	You don't even have to be good.
	Be an assistant coach for your kids' football team, soccer team.
	Be the equipment manager.
	Just be there for them.
	It is the greatest experience ever when you coach your children.
	There's nothing...
	I coach my son's football team, my 10-year-old's football team.
	By the way, we won the championship, met the governor and everything.
	Not bragging.
	But, no, I'm saying the best experience ever is out there coaching my kid, coaching the other kids.
	And these kids just...
	Look, man, they just want to perform.
	They want to succeed.
	And they're learning things.
	They're learning that, guess what?
	This everybody gets a trophy, it still doesn't work in football.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know what?
	The team we beat for the championship, they weren't at the Music City Bowl meeting Governor Bill Lee.
	Mm-hmm.
	That was us.
	And guess who saw us on TV? The kids we beat.
	So you got to learn right there.
	In life, there are winners and losers.
	And we say that straight up to the parents.
	It's like, look, if you want a touchy-feely facility, that's going to be like, well, it's okay if you lose.
	Go next door.
	Because that's not us.
	We play to win.
	Because that's life.
	You know, there's just so many unalienable lessons you learn from competing in sports.
	And I really can't even...
	Let's play this clip right here that I got from Tom Brady.
	I think Patrick Bet-David over there at Valuetainment played this.
	And I literally got goosebumps because I can...
	As he's telling this story, I remember waking up at 5 o'clock in the morning and being sore and being barely able to get out of bed with a fucking icy hot on my back and just being in pain at all times.
	and you know just being miserable saying fuck I don't want to do this shit and guys I wasn't a scholarship athlete I did that shit for free I was a walk-on so like for me I had even more incentive to like want to quit and not do it but I said you know what I'm not gonna be a bitch I'm not gonna quit on my teammates because they fucking need me so this speech was really powerful let's go ahead and play it real quick I would encourage everyone to play football for the simple reason that it is hard
	It's hard when you're young to wake up in the off season at 6am to go train and workout knowing that all your friends are sleeping in and eating pancakes.
	It's hard when you're on your way to practice way down with all your gear and it's 90 degrees out and all the other kids are at the pool or at the beach and your body is already completely exhausted from workouts in two days.
	It's hard to throw, catch, block and tackle and hit kids when they're way bigger and way more developed than you.
	Only to go home that night bruised and battered and strained, but knowing you have to show up again the next day for just the chance to try again.
	But understand this, life is hard.
	No matter who you are, there are bumps and hits and bruises along the way.
	And my advice is to prepare yourself.
	Because football lessons teach us that success and achievement come from overcoming adversity.
	And that team accomplishment far exceeds anyone's individual goals.
	Pause it right there.
	That brings tears to us.
	Yeah, and that brought back all the...
	Because I remember vividly, at the time, I was like...
	I was playing...
	Because the way Northeastern University works is there's something called co-op, right?
	Where you take a year where you're not in classes, but you work a full-time job.
	And I remember I was working a full-time job, and I was an athlete.
	So I would go to work...
	So I'd wake up at like 5, go train, right?
	Because we used to row on the Charles River.
	And the boathouse was over by Soldiers Field by Harvard, all the way in Cambridge.
	So we'd take a bus out there and we'd practice.
	I'd be done around 8.30-ish, 9, right?
	From 5 to like 8 to 9.
	Then I would take my bike and I'd ride it all the way back on Starro Drive.
	For all my people from Boston, you guys know what I'm talking about here.
	I would go from Soldiers Field all the way up to Boston.
	I would take Star Drive all the way to North Station.
	Because that's where the government building was that I interned at.
	10 Causeway Street.
	I'll never fucking forget this shit.
	Right by where the Celtics play TD Garden.
	I'd ride all the way there.
	Then I'd leave work at around 5, 5.30ish.
	And I'd ride back to Northeastern University, which is over there on Huntington in downtown, right by the Prudential Center.
	I'd ride my bike there.
	Then I'd lock it up, change clothes, and then I'd do my second practice where we would lift weights, and then we'd go ahead and jump on an erg and then a run.
	And then by the time I got to the cafeteria, it'd be like 8, 9 p.m.
	We're eating, and then I'd go home and I'd pass on.
	I would do it all over again, wake up.
	And I did that for years.
	It really built a level of character because I remember I'd be like, you know, when it's too cold to ride my bike back from work, I'd be taking a tee.
	I'd be like half asleep on the tee because like I worked a full day and I trained and then I'm like, what the fuck?
	I got to go lift weights now and do another run like I'm fucking miserable.
	And I was like, and I'm not even going to pay for this shit, but I was like, you know what?
	It is what it is.
	And I think sports, I think it was a mandatory thing.
	I think every kid needs to fucking suffer and play sports, especially like when you mentioned before.
	Especially if like they come like from a privileged background and they, um...
	And they don't have that adversity that they can deal with day to day, like being in a tougher neighborhood.
	They really need it.
	Because you don't want a privileged pussy, right?
	These kids are soft.
	We live in a pretty soft county.
	So we need to toughen them up.
	And it's different.
	I've trained kids in harder areas.
	And it's definitely, definitely trained kids.
	It hurts.
	I don't care.
	Like, train through it.
	You know what I mean?
	So, at the end of the day, I do believe that, again, even if you're a father, I see a lot of fathers who are there, but are they really there?
	And one way, because like me, I'm not the most nurturing dude, right?
	Like, the only way I was able to communicate through my kids is through sports.
	Because I'm not going to sit there, I'm not cuddling you.
	Like, I'm not a cuddler.
	I'm not going to sit there like, okay, let's watch TV, let's cuddle.
	Now, let's go throw the ball.
	Let's go play catch.
	Let's go, you know, whatever.
	Let's do something sports-wise.
	And I think a lot of parents can benefit from that if they just simply spend the time with their children, bond with them over sports.
	Not to mention teamwork and business.
	I find a lot of people that are in sports, even if they get injured or they get hurt, what do they go to right after?
	A business.
	And they excel because they understand teamwork and how it works in the team world.
	That's pretty good, too.
	Yeah, you're able also to put things in perspective.
	Like, I remember, like, there's nothing worse than, like, doing a 2K race or a 2,000-meter race because it, like, burns in agony or you do an erg test.
	And I'd be like, I'd always, like, think to myself, like, oh, well, at least I'm not rowing a 2K. I can do this.
	Like, you're always able to put things in perspective as to, like, because it's, like, extremely painful.
	Lactic acid buildup to the highest level.
	I think it's one of the few sports that builds up the most lactic acid because it's strength with endurance combined, and it's a six-minute race, but it's, like, you know, you're still long enough where it's, like, You have to have some semblance of endurance, too, and you're going all out.
	But yeah, I mean, sports in general, it's amazing how much character it builds, especially for kids.
	Oh, absolutely.
	When it comes to the gym, what would you say you learned from all the years in the gym?
	Well, I mean, the thing about gym is it's meritocracy.
	If you train hard, you get better results.
	And so, you know, there's obviously genetic components, but generally speaking, if you stick to a program, if you stick to a diet plan, and you do it consistently over time, you will continue to achieve results.
	And that's where the gym sets forth, you know, gains in life.
	A lot of people get by, they used to be meathead, meathead.
	Well, all the data is showing that exercise is pretty much the only thing you could do that causes both an acute and long-term benefit in mental health.
	If you've ever seen a brain scan before and after a walk, before a walk, your brain is just gray.
	Nothing's going on.
	You go for a walk, it's lit up, it's red, it's green, it's blue.
	That's the endorphin rush that people get, right?
	Yeah, and it's also just, it's blood flow as well.
	Like, you're literally, when you exercise, you're increasing neurons.
	You're doing all these great things, so being a meathead is actually a favorable thing.
	This is for my boy Mark.
	Saluting face, shout out to the real ones.
	Keeping sanity in the clown world.
	WFNF biceps.
	Thank you, bro.
	Yeah, yeah, but Mark is pretty jacked.
	Thank you for that, brother.
	That's from Mixed Tarzan.
	Sorry.
	Oh, that's my guy.
	Show him.
	Yeah, I got a collab with him, so he's a great guy.
	Nice.
	If you guys don't follow Mixed Tarzan, he's the guy.
	He's him.
	He's funny as hell, too.
	His TikTok's great.
	Go check him out, guys.
	Mixed Tarzan.
	He's great.
	But sorry, you were saying, I didn't mean it up there.
	No, I had no idea what was happening.
	You were talking about when you go for a walk, the difference between your brain.
	It makes you smarter.
	And at the end of the day, if you're obese, your blood flow sucks.
	You want to know what the first thing they prescribe to obese people?
	Viagra, Cialis.
	Because blood flow controls erection.
	Blood flow.
	So, when you exercise, you decrease your chance of being obese, or you treat your obesity, you're just going to be smarter.
	Like, at the end of the day, the studies are demonstrating that fat people...
	Now, there can be a fat person smarter than a skinny person.
	Of course.
	But fat people are stupider than they should be.
	They're just...
	Fat people are dumb.
	Yeah.
	Wait, you're telling me niggas that are fat can't get hard on?
	I can't say the N-word.
	Watch it, I can't.
	Yeah, yeah!
	Yo, that's crazy.
	Actually, I can, because that Lily girl on Twitter...
	Yeah, Lily girl's crazy to say that.
	So I'm still not comfortable saying it, but I don't want to say it.
	Mark, I'll give you the empaths, bro.
	No, I can't.
	I need that in writing.
	Yeah, he's...
	Actually, you're not even white, technically.
	You're Jewish.
	You're a minority like us.
	I give him a destiny.
	Yeah, he's Jewish, bro.
	And technically, I think we control black people now.
	We're all minorities.
	Yeah, technically, right?
	Allegedly, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean...
	I gotta hold on.
	Let me call my people.
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	It's the Sabbath.
	Is it light out still?
	Oh, shit, yeah.
	How does that work with time change?
	I can't do this Jewish thing.
	I can't figure it out.
	You can't even drive, bro.
	What are you doing here?
	You can't drive.
	What are you doing here?
	I don't know.
	I walked.
	He walked.
	I walked.
	I can't do it.
	There's too many restrictions.
	He walked by the river.
	There's too many restrictions.
	But yeah, so fat people are dumb.
	I like that.
	I agree with you.
	I'm not saying that if they were leaner, their brain would function more optimally.
	It's what the data says.
	That's not saying that fat people are dumb and they're lean people.
	No, it's saying that you can increase your neural output, be more...
	And think about it, you'll just have more energy.
	You'll be able to do more things.
	And also, going back to being a father...
	You can't play with your kid when you're not in shape.
	You should be able to go out there on the field and play with your kid.
	If they're playing football, you should be able to run routes against them.
	It doesn't have to be great, but you should be able to play with your kid.
	So I think being fit is something that will definitely enhance your...
	It'll enhance you as a father.
	Yeah.
	I think, you know, as a dad, it's your duty to not just be a protector and a provider, but also to be a role model where your parents, where your parents are like, sorry, your children are like, damn, I want to look like dad.
	Damn, my dad is jacked.
	Like, damn, my dad is in good shape.
	Like, you know, you don't want to be a fat, sloppy stomach hanging over your pants.
	You show up to parent-teacher conference and they're like, oh, well, no wonder your kid's a fucking idiot.
	You know, versus, like, you show up, you're in shape, you got your shit together, and then more than likely, your children are probably gonna go ahead and have their shit together too, and it's like, okay, this guy's squared away.
	Kids emulate their parents.
	I remember Brandon Carter told a story about how he would go to school with his kid, right?
	Yeah.
	And all the kids would be like, yo, is that your dad?
	He's like a superhero.
	You know, Brandon Carter.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So it's like, Just by him being there, kids looked up to him as a role model for being a superhero because he's in shape.
	And as a result, it's like, that's my dad.
	I'm proud of my dad.
	Just like him.
	That's a good role model.
	And then what you say carries way more weight.
	If you tell your kids, do this, they're far more likely to listen to you because they're like, damn, my dad is a fucking superhero, so I'm going to listen to what he says.
	Kids are likely to emulate their parents.
	So if they see you stay in shape, they see you exercise, they see you follow a routine, they're more likely to do that.
	They see you in a certain way.
	You have those impressionable years, and I believe it's before the age of 10 from my experience.
	And based on what I've read in the data, if you don't have your kids right by 10 years old, you're going to have some trouble with them as teenagers.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Yeah, so that's why I never drink in front of my kids.
	I don't drink.
	So I don't drink in front of my kids, and I try not to do habits that I don't want them to emulate.
	So even if you're going to have a beer, you're not doing it in front of them.
	I wouldn't let them see me drunk at least.
	Yeah.
	Because what parents do in every community, people my age talk about drinking like they're teenagers.
	Like, hey, Becky and I are going to get crunked tonight.
	It's like, you're 45, bitch.
	I mean, dude, these...
	These parents, dude, these fucking soccer moms, they will literally bring booze to tournaments and spike their coffee in the morning.
	They're drinking throughout the day.
	Oh, shit, yeah.
	Oh, after the game at lunch, they go to sports bars.
	Well, their husbands are making the money so they can just chill.
	Well, I mean, it's the husbands, too.
	It's everybody.
	It's like this drinking culture that kids are bred into.
	And then their kid gets in trouble for drinking in high school.
	I'm like, I don't know why they're drinking.
	Come on, Becky.
	You know why they're drinking?
	All you do is drink.
	You drink a half bottle of wine by lunch.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's a pandemic.
	It really is.
	You know, yeah.
	And alcohol is literally like a silent killer.
	Like, it amazes me how...
	I mean, here in Miami, it's the same thing.
	It's like, if you don't drink...
	People look at me at first like we're weird.
	Because we were like, hey man, we don't really drink like that.
	Oh, are you like a recovering alcoholic or something?
	Like, they automatically assume something's wrong with you.
	And it's very pervasive everywhere.
	And you're in Tennessee, so...
	Yeah.
	Like...
	Isn't Tennessee one of the fattest states in America?
	So where I live is Brentwood, Tennessee.
	Probably not as bad.
	From what I see, it's probably one of the fittest.
	There's not many fat parents.
	People are in shape.
	For example, our gyms are at capacity.
	Fitness is...
	And it's because the average salary is like...
	The average earning of a household income is like $2.60.
	Oh, wow.
	These people are rich.
	That's the median income, which is crazy high.
	Did you guys beat out Greenwich?
	What's up?
	Did you guys beat out Grimmage?
	I'm not sure.
	We're three.
	I believe we're three.
	We're number one in Tennessee.
	It could have changed.
	I don't know.
	But all I know is that Timberlake lives down the street, Justin Timberlake.
	Oh, really?
	There's a lot of Aaron Rodgers' building house out there.
	So we're skewed because it's so beautiful and there's so much cool stuff.
	We're right by Nashville.
	We're 20 minutes from Nashville International.
	No state income taxes?
	None.
	That's why we moved there, because when we sold our business, we were able to keep that extra 10%.
	Think about it.
	I sell my business for a million dollars.
	It's an extra 100K in my pocket.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So you've got to give over to the man.
	Being that I have like five companies that, you know, in the next five, 10 years might sell, I'd be dumb not to move to one of the five states that don't have a state income.
	Absolutely.
	Dude, I tell people that all the time.
	I don't know why people are living in California and New York.
	I grew up in Connecticut myself.
	I grew up in the shitty area, New Brandon Center, not a nice area like Greenwich.
	That's why I was asking.
	Greenwich is typically always in the top five nicest towns, the highest median incomes.
	But I say all that to say, if you're not living in Florida, Texas, I didn't know Tennessee didn't have state income taxes, so I'm not going to add Tennessee to it.
	It's beautiful.
	Nevada.
	Washington State, I think, might not have it.
	Washington State does not.
	Does not.
	New Hampshire?
	New Hampshire?
	I believe they do.
	I believe they do.
	No, I don't think New Hampshire does either.
	Someone in the chat, please confirm.
	I don't think New Hampshire has state income taxes, but someone in the chat, please confirm.
	My CPA, he's like, when you're about a year out, you gotta move.
	You're moving.
	Go somewhere.
	It'll be worth it.
	Even if you lose $100K on your house, it's worth it.
	Wow.
	So we got the hell out.
	We were in Illinois.
	And it was...
	I mean, Tennessee's weather's gorgeous.
	So it's like Southern California, but not...
	It's almost like 70, 80%.
	What are the people?
	Yeah, I mean, and it's based.
	You know, we're a very base state.
	Fits my conservative values.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, California...
	Now, Orange County I could live in.
	Orange County, California's awesome.
	Mm-hmm.
	But you get into L.A. County, that's where people get weird.
	Clown world.
	And look, man, there's a state for everybody.
	I'm just saying with my values, I don't want a dude in an outfit spreading his legs in front of my kids in school.
	I'm sorry.
	I agree with you.
	They dig that stuff.
	We don't.
	So, I mean, look, and we didn't lock down or anything.
	It's the best state for me.
	But if you don't like what I like, don't move to Tennessee.
	We don't want you there either.
	Yeah, they said New Hampshire is no state income tax.
	God bless New Hampshire.
	It's the only state in New England, I think, that doesn't have state income tax.
	That's why I remembered.
	Nice place to be.
	California's screwed, man.
	Yeah, dude.
	California's screwed.
	The homeless issues, like the taxes, the people.
	I hate it.
	Every time I go there, I just do what I got to do and get out of there.
	I was actually, speaking of fat people, I was there not too long ago.
	I went and did a collab with Jubilee.
	And can we pull that video up real fast, Moe?
	It's like their most viewed video in months.
	Greg Doucette was there.
	I saw that.
	You didn't see that?
	Yeah, that was great.
	Everybody saw that.
	Okay.
	Dude, it's like their most commented video.
	All the comments are just like, this Myron guy's an asshole, blah, blah, blah, because I was talking about how obesity is a problem.
	And literally, a TikToker just died a couple of days ago.
	I thought you got your point across best of anybody.
	Appreciate that.
	I mean, I'm not just saying that because you're here.
	They're hating on me.
	Well, no, because you spoke truth.
	Not just the...
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Sorry.
	The video.
	He was playing the video.
	I just wanted to show the thing to the audience, in case they haven't seen it already.
	Yeah, we'd love to see it again.
	Yeah, we won't play it.
	We just wanted to show a thumbnail or whatever.
	Sorry, continue on, Mark.
	Yeah, so the thing is, remember this fat acceptance thing?
	Yeah.
	All these mofos are on Ozempic now.
	Are you proud to be fat, or what?
	Like, what is it?
	You're willing to take basically an experimental drug that is causing stomach paralysis?
	I'm not anti-Ozempic.
	I'm pro-Ozempic as the last choice.
	Like, Ozempic, it literally causes stomach paralysis.
	So it's crazy because a lot of girls in Miami use Ozempic.
	Of course.
	And it's like their first resort because, you know what?
	I'm lazy.
	I don't want to take this too serious.
	I'm going to use what everyone's telling me to use.
	And then they wonder, what are the side effects of Ozempic?
	So the thing is, we don't know.
	We don't know all the side effects, but one of the listed ones is obviously stomach paralysis.
	So what it does is it slows down digestion.
	Yeah.
	And the food just kind of sits there.
	And so I talked to a doctor.
	His name is Dr.
	Ovadia.
	He's iFixHearts on Twitter.
	Fantastic follow.
	Smart dude.
	So I did a podcast with him.
	His theory is that it's making people so nauseous and sick they just don't want to eat.
	It literally slows down digestion.
	All it's doing is preventing you from overeating.
	It basically proves that it's calories in, calories out, people.
	That's what Ozempic proved to me.
	If anything ever proved without a shadow of a doubt that it's calories and calories, the problem is they're not able to eat, they're not able to get off of protein, these people are resistance training, so now the studies are showing that it's causing muscle loss.
	And I don't think Ozempic is eating away muscle, I think it's just causing people to have habits that are making you waste muscle.
	So I don't think Ozempic has some innate catabolic muscle wasting effect for those who don't know what catabolic is.
	I think that what Ozempic's doing is you're not initiating that lifestyle change of getting in a gram of protein per pound of body weight, of getting in the resistance training.
	So when you don't do that and you lose weight, it's gonna be muscle.
	You know, it's amazing to me how people really try to over-complicate getting in shape, building an aesthetic physique.
	It's actually a lot easier than people, you know, try to make it.
	They're like, oh, I gotta take this stupid fat burner or I gotta do this.
	It's like people just don't want to do the work.
	They're looking for the easy way out.
	It's simple.
	Get one gram per pound of body weight, do some resistance training two to three times a week, train with a decent level of intensity, be one to two reps away from failure.
	If you just follow those basic things, sleep eight to 10 hours a night, drink water to the point where you're urinating clear almost every day, get enough protein, get some leafy green vegetables in, you're probably gonna do pretty damn good.
	You just summarized everything I say.
	Yeah.
	Pretty much.
	I mean, set protein at gram per pound.
	Why?
	Mark Bell calls it protein leveraging.
	Protein is the most satiating macronutrient.
	Also, there's new data to show that, so there's four grams, so there's four calories per gram of carbohydrate, nine calories per gram of fat.
	They're actually saying that protein's more around the lines of like 3.2.
	Really?
	Okay.
	3.2 calories per gram.
	Is that new research that's come out recently?
	Yeah, I think they're exploring it.
	I did read that.
	So even if it isn't, protein is the most satiating nutrient.
	And it also causes, it does cause an insulin spike.
	Not that that's too related to fat, but it is related to hunger.
	But it's an acute insulin spike, whereas a carbohydrate is a biphasic insulin spike.
	Biphasic means it does this.
	It has two spikes.
	So it does have a slight...
	Because the keto people are like, it raises insulin.
	I'm like, yeah, but it's a different kind of raise.
	It's not the same.
	And also you have people who are on diabetic medicine that actually causes high insulin who are still losing weight.
	So insulin is not...
	Actually, I just did a crazy study on thyroid.
	People blame thyroid.
	You hear that all the time, right?
	Of course they do.
	They did a study where they had three groups, one with hypothyroid, one with normal thyroid, one with hyperthyroid, put them on controlled diet and training, and there was no difference.
	Statistically insignificant.
	So the whole, like, I have a bad thyroid, that's not an excuse.
	You know how many girls come on this pod and say I have a bad thyroid and I immediately tell them, no you don't, you just overeat.
	That's so insensitive, you're an asshole, I literally have a thyroid condition.
	I'm like no, it comes down to calories in versus calories out.
	That's what it is.
	It's literally like the law of thermodynamics.
	I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these people.
	They just want to make excuses.
	And then I love that you mentioned insulin because insulin is like the boogeyman in the fitness industry.
	It spikes insulin, which is bad.
	Who gives a fuck if your insulin is spiked?
	If you're in a calorie deficit, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	And I've seen this too.
	I don't know if you're familiar with the study where they...
	I think they did this with rats, if I'm not mistaken.
	Correct me if I'm wrong.
	Where they fed rats...
	It was either rats or people.
	I forget what it was.
	But they fed them a diet filled with sugar.
	Shitty foods that are traditionally unhealthy.
	Right?
	But they controlled calories.
	And then they had people that were eating somewhat healthy foods.
	They did human studies on this.
	They did human studies too, right?
	But they controlled the calories.
	And most importantly, they controlled protein.
	Yeah.
	No difference in weight loss and health markers improved on both sides, regardless of the sugar consumed and all the insulin spikes that they want to say.
	Obviously, eating a healthier diet is better long-term, but if calories are controlled, that's the most important thing.
	And it's crazy to me how this isn't mainstream in the industry.
	They always want to run to the shit that doesn't matter as much.
	They're worried about the details versus the overall most important thing.
	These fitness influencers will say, oh, don't spike sugar, don't drink energy drinks, They're so bad for you, eating sugar will kill you, blah, blah, all this other bullshit.
	But it's like what you should be saying is control your calories and make sure that you're eating at a deficit or in maintenance if you want to maintain your weight.
	And then we could talk about the sugar and the lifestyle and all this other shit.
	But it's like calories in, calories out is like the most important thing.
	But like, why does no one ever talk about this shit?
	So the health markers improve from all diets because you're losing weight.
	Yeah.
	And what does keto do?
	You're cutting out an entire macronutrient.
	So another thing is...
	And a macronutrient that you're extremely likely to overeat in.
	People love to eat bread.
	Let's talk about the Holocaust.
	Were there any fucking fat people there?
	There weren't.
	No.
	According to some people, they didn't happen.
	But were there any fat people in the fake pictures?
	Yeah.
	No, there wasn't.
	So here's the deal.
	Yet all I hear is Jewish women complain about, oh my thyroid, I can't lose weight.
	No, it's not your thyroid, it's your mouth.
	You eat too much food.
	That's what it is.
	So, I'm not saying that people, PCOS is obviously an issue, right?
	PCOS will cause issues.
	After women have kids, their metabolism can be weird, it can go down.
	My wife's after the third kid has been just hell.
	You know, for her to lose weight, she has to cut her calories extremely low, so I understand.
	But, you know, women have their own share of problems.
	Men...
	We have testosterone.
	We have so many things in our favor.
	It's funny because there's this double standard.
	You always saw these TV shows like King of Queens where you had this hot, lean, attractive woman with this fat, sloppy dude.
	For some reason, the TV was pushing that on people for a whole 10 years of TV shows.
	I don't know if you guys remember that.
	It was always a fat dude with a lean...
	The 90s sitcoms are the worst, dude.
	A lean, attractive chick.
	The bottom line is...
	It's not that hard to lose fat.
	Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Vivian was always thin, but Phil was fat as hell, Uncle Phil.
	Yeah, like, yeah, Lois is in shape.
	Meanwhile, Peter Griffin is a fat ass.
	Like, yeah, dude, these sitcoms, what was that?
	Modern Family.
	All these shows, you're 100% right.
	Married with Children, the guy was always a bumbling idiot, out of shape, etc., and the wife was kind of like a prize, so to speak.
	Or we could talk about the whole psyop of that.
	They're just trying to make men weak and dumb.
	At the end of the day, we need masculinity, and being physically fit is masculine.
	Being able to provide for your family is masculine.
	Being able to protect your family physically is masculine.
	We need more of that in society.
	Men need to stop being so fucking weak.
	We just have weak men, and that leads to a very, very endangered society.
	Our society is at risk when we have weak men.
	And right now, men are at an all-time weak.
	We have the same testosterone levels at 20 years old now than 70-year-olds did in the 70s.
	Can you explain it?
	It's not microplastics.
	I think it's obesity.
	Yeah.
	Everybody points to these bogeymans, right?
	Like, oh no.
	The water.
	It's the water.
	Oh, it's microplastics.
	It's seed oils.
	It's this.
	They didn't have seed oils in the 70s?
	Shut the fuck up.
	They were eating Twinkies by the frigging gallon.
	They didn't care what they ate.
	They had less information than we do now.
	That was when packaged foods were really crushing it, too.
	Everybody thinks everybody just shot the perimeter in the 80s.
	Yeah.
	Nah, dude, in the 80s, we were eating Hungry Man dinners, bro.
	Holy fuck, Hungry Man.
	Hey, I'm old.
	That shit came out like, slam it down, put it in the microwave, but the mashed potatoes were always frozen.
	The meat would be fucking bubbling and boiling, and the mashed potatoes are somehow frozen.
	And guess what?
	In the 1980s, who do we have?
	Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone.
	We had, obviously, Ivan Drago.
	All these guys were in fucking crazy shape.
	Because they trained.
	A little bit of roids here and there too, but the point is that the 80s, they ate worse than we do now, and they had less information than we do now.
	So here's the thing.
	I was talking to my buddy, Dr.
	Joey Antonio.
	He's the CEO of the ISSN. And It blew my mind.
	Oh, the training certification.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So ISSN is the...
	I was actually the first sponsor of the ISSN with Saivation.
	Yeah.
	Pretty proud of that.
	Way back in the day.
	I'm glad they didn't fail, because then I'd be like, I don't know those guys.
	Yeah.
	No, but they're like the premier journal.
	Yeah.
	And Jose is the CEO. So Jose said something the other day that blew my fucking mind.
	He's like, you can't outrun a bad diet.
	And this guy's a PA. He's not just like some wacko online who's sunning his balls.
	Like, this is a guy who's an OG, right?
	And he's like, he's a professor.
	He's a literal professor at multiple universities.
	He's like, you can't outrun a bad diet.
	So training is the catalyst for everything.
	You think diet and then training.
	Remember, diet's 80%.
	That's bullshit.
	Training is everything, because all that shit doesn't matter unless you train.
	Training elicits so many things.
	You talk about insulin, how do you increase your GLUT4 receptors?
	By training, weight training.
	Resistance training is the fountain of youth.
	It is.
	If I was just out running around, my joints would be killing me.
	If I wasn't lifting heavy shit, I wouldn't be crushing life right now.
	And for the steroid comments that we'll come across, I am on TRT. I am on 150 milligrams of testosterone a week and two IUs of HGH five days a week.
	That's an anti-aging protocol.
	And guess what?
	50% of Brentwood is because that's what rich people do.
	We take shit that makes us feel better.
	Yeah.
	And if you're deficient in testosterone, if you're aging, by all means.
	Am I saying that if your levels are great to go fucking inject?
	No.
	I want your testosterone at a nice level.
	I keep mine at 900 to 1100.
	That's high normal.
	Once you get extra physiological, that's when you start messing with dying.
	Super physiological is not good.
	Having normal testosterone, good.
	Having low testosterone, bad.
	So if naturally you have lower testosterone, maybe it's from age, maybe it's from shit you did in the past, maybe you drank too much, maybe you didn't sleep enough as a kid.
	My shit dropped when I was 27 because I didn't sleep.
	And it never came back, no matter what I did.
	So I went on TRT. Best decision of my life.
	If my testosterone was naturally above 500, I would not be on injectable TRT. It sucks.
	You have to pin yourself.
	It sucks.
	That's not fun.
	Like, you know, every week for the rest of your life, you have to put it...
	Yeah, that's the thing that sucks.
	But, I mean, you know, everybody's like, oh, he's muscular because he's on steroids.
	Man, I was winning NPC shows as natural.
	Like, you know, and then I found out my shit was...
	So, I mean...
	And NPC hasn't tested, so that's a big feat.
	Oh, no.
	To hit NPCs.
	To win NPCs naturally is fucking hard.
	Or maybe I just joined shows that people sucked at.
	Maybe that was...
	Well, to win MPC, naturally, is fucking a feat because everyone knows MPC. I mean, at least, to my knowledge, unless it's changed.
	It's not drug tested.
	No, it's not.
	What does MPC stand for?
	National Physique Committee.
	And I'm an IFBB Pro, which is the only pro card you can get, really, that matters.
	I mean, there's natural pro cards, but it's like being an Arena Football League player.
	Like, you're a pro football player, but are you?
	You know, um...
	So yeah, I got my FBB Pro Card when I was 41.
	Big feet, by the way.
	Congratulations.
	I don't want to die.
	That's my main thing.
	I wear a stupid whoop strap on my ankle.
	I'm always monitoring.
	If I was on a ton of steroids, my resting heart rate would not be 48.
	I wouldn't have a resting blood pressure of 110 over 70.
	I wouldn't have...
	So I look at it like, okay, how can we maximize our life and utilize modern technology?
	I know we're all like, Big Pharma does some things right.
	It's keeping a lot of people alive longer than they should be.
	That made really bad decisions.
	Like we talk shit about statins and beta blockers.
	There's people who would have died 10 years earlier without them.
	Wow.
	I think if people...
	Go ahead.
	I'm just worried about my balls shrinking.
	Because, bro, I'm just keeping it being with you, bro.
	That can't happen to me.
	Well, so the good thing is, the smaller the balls, the bigger your penis looks.
	It's all relative, right?
	That's why you shouldn't train legs.
	Smaller quads, bigger penis.
	My thing is, and the thing with Big Pharma, because I've been very critical of Big Pharma, obviously they have a place, they do help people live longer, etc.
	But a lot of the times these people, outside of just being unlucky and getting really bad, debilitating diseases that they couldn't help, a lot of it is preventable.
	Heart disease is the number one killer in America and most of these people are just too fat is what it comes down to.
	Obesity is the main root problem.
	It's the number one comorbidity period.
	It has made the pharmaceutical companies extremely rich.
	They want you fat and sick.
	They want you fat and sick because you have one drug.
	So what's going to happen with Ozempic?
	It's causing stomach paralysis.
	So they're going to come out with something that's going to make people poop and it's going to be prescriptions.
	So they're going to prescribe them both together.
	That goes from $1,200 a month to $2,000 a month because I guarantee you they're not going to make it cheap.
	Get a patent on it for a few years so they won't be able to have generic.
	Yep.
	So, I mean, Ozepic is going to be the biggest increase in healthcare costs we're going to have.
	$1,200 a month.
	$1,200 a month.
	Wow.
	And what they do is whack-a-mole.
	Like, let's say we don't know yet.
	Maybe we do.
	Let's say that thing they forced everyone to get that I can't talk about.
	Yeah.
	The jab-jab.
	Yeah, let's say it does cause heart problems.
	Yeah.
	What are they going to do?
	What do you think Pfizer recently invested in?
	They bought some heart medicine companies.
	They literally bought companies that develop heart medication.
	Of course.
	So, I mean, you have to look at where the money is.
	Now, do I think Big Pharma's evil?
	No.
	I think they do a lot of good, right?
	However, they're a business.
	They have a board to answer to.
	And as someone who's worked for boards and answers to boards, every week I have to go in front of them and show them a spreadsheet and show them our profit.
	And I also get paid on that profit.
	It's profit sharing, right?
	Yeah.
	So you look at that, and you're a CEO, you're Albert Borla of Pfizer, and you have to show numbers.
	You're going to find whatever way you can.
	So it's whack-a-mole.
	You're going to fix this problem.
	You're going to create this problem.
	That's what happens.
	The medication that you take...
	Personally, I hate Big Pharma.
	I'm very anti-medicine, anti all this other crap.
	However, I do understand it does serve a purpose for certain people where they need the medicine.
	But my thing is I look at it like...
	Typically, they'll give you a medicine, and then that medicine creates other problems that now you need another medicine to fix those problems, and it's kind of like a leapfrog effect where it's like you're getting more and more medication to stave off problems that came from the very medication that you bought originally, right?
	And then at some point, it ends up being worse than the original ailment you had in the first place that why you went to go get the medication.
	So I'm like, holy shit.
	This is why I'm so big on people just like...
	Eat 80% of your diet from healthy foods, right?
	That have one to two ingredients and you're going to be good.
	Just going for an evening walk.
	Just going for an evening walk will improve your health that much more.
	I have a family that actually are practicing doctors and they used to work for big companies, you know?
	And they told us basically what they would do is they would just give you medication to make you feel good.
	In a way, to kind of subdue the actual illness, but to create more chain reactions so you get more medicine.
	It's a never-ending effect.
	So she left that company and went to her own company, but that's what the business is.
	You pay for their services to get medication, but it keeps you in the loop, always.
	And there's people that do need it, right?
	Though I don't like Big Pharma, I do understand absolutely that they are keeping a good amount of people alive with the medicine and the medical advances that we've had as a society.
	But I do genuinely believe that a lot of the problems that we have Like heart disease, for example.
	A lot of it is preventable, where we don't need to go ahead and give all this medicine out, but it's because people have really bad choices.
	And I agree with you, Mark, that we want to keep people fat, we want to keep them stupid, we want to keep them unaware of what's going on.
	And then dissenting voices are either shamed, insulted, guilted, or whatever it may be.
	Like that video, right?
	I just looked at it, almost 60,000 comments, and most of them are calling me a bigot, an asshole, a jerk, a fatphobic, all this other crap.
	A bigot?
	Yeah, they're calling me a bigot, all this shit, right?
	Like saying I'm a massagerist, all this stuff, right?
	White supremacist.
	Yeah, that too probably, right?
	That's on Sundays, right?
	Calling me that.
	And it's like, in my head, I'm like, if people actually listen to the stuff that I say, we'd probably have less fat people.
	I'd save some lives.
	Matter of fact, can we pull up my Twitter real quick, my Twitter feed?
	Do you have the fat person thing ready?
	Yes.
	Okay, let's pull it up.
	I want to show this.
	This guy right here, right?
	Scroll down.
	This guy died recently, right?
	This big TikToker, right?
	Which there's a whole...
	I didn't realize this until I went and did that Jubilee episode, that there's a whole...
	Mark, you probably know this better than me because you're like deep in the fitness industry, so you probably know the ops.
	There's like a whole industry of gluttonous, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram creators that just make videos of themselves eating food.
	Like Nico Avocado or whatever his name is.
	And this guy, Edgar Landervid, also known as Callejas503, he died recently, right?
	And in my head, I'm like, if I got 20 minutes with this guy, and I told him, bro, what the fuck are you doing?
	You need to fucking lose weight.
	Like, is it worth the likes and the clicks and everything else like that?
	You need to fucking lose some goddamn weight.
	This guy might be alive today.
	And it's preventable.
	Like, look at this, man.
	And the problem is that this is on social media promoting gluttony, and his followers, they're probably fat asses just like him.
	They promote these channels.
	Yeah, they're always in the feature channels.
	Yeah, that's the thing is that there's I don't know if there's actual collusion or it's just some algorithmic thing I have no idea but it just seems that the media and everything like when fat phobic stuff came around Like my business partner Alan Roberts.
	He was he got cancelled.
	They literally threatened his life.
	They I got dude I got shadow banned on YouTube in 2020 for mentioning vitamin D Wow.
	Yeah, before we even knew the name of the virus.
	Wow.
	And my views went from like 10,000 a video to like 20.
	Like not even 20,000, like literally below 100.
	They knocked me down.
	They didn't know strike, know anything.
	Did they put the little misinformation banner under your videos?
	That was before they had that label.
	That just came out recently.
	But just recently I got a warning release for my channel.
	I think it was January 31st.
	Because I just said something not flattering about the great doctor.
	His last name starts with an F. Oh, okay.
	Yeah, you can't say anything about that guy.
	Really?
	On YouTube?
	Yeah.
	Actually, I just told you earlier, there's a YouTuber from Canada.
	I got his channel deleted for talking about people losing weight.
	I'm mentioning that guy.
	Are you serious?
	Yep.
	He literally just had a...
	He just was testifying recently, too.
	Yeah.
	I forget where he...
	He was testifying under oath, talking about how he gets his life threatened and people want to kill him.
	Who is this guy?
	But to lose your channel, though, is kind of crazy, though.
	Who is this guy?
	I can't remember his exact name, but he came to the gym with us, the boxer gym, one time.
	Yeah.
	I mean, well, you used to get strikes on YouTube for talking about it, you know, and criticizing it.
	Canada's so messed up, bro.
	Canada makes California look like freedom.
	Bro, because, you know, they're trying to pass this, like, legislation where, like, you can get retroactively, like, banned for what you said in the past from a video.
	Yep.
	Hate speech.
	That's crazy.
	YouTube has loosened up a bit on the whole jab-jab situation.
	In America.
	In America, they did loosen up a bit, but it's still a taboo topic.
	You never know, bro.
	Talking about the election, I remember in 2020, there were certain things that would immediately get you a strike.
	Jab-jab, election, any of that stuff would automatically get you a strike.
	Well, they actually have some competition now.
	You know, there's competing platforms.
	Like Rumble, Kick.
	Yeah, and I think Truth will make a run too.
	They're dumb not to.
	They have the money to do it.
	True Social?
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, they recently got a huge bump.
	And then X as well.
	You know, shout out to Elon.
	You know, he unbanned a bunch of creators.
	He brought Alex Jones back, which I thought was awesome.
	Nick Fuentes brought his guys back, yeah.
	See, I want everybody out there.
	Yeah.
	I want everybody to say everything.
	I want to know where people stand.
	So they only empower those people when they de-platform them, because then it literally gives them more notoriety, and it's like, well, why are they silencing them?
	So I want to hear everybody's point of view.
	I don't believe in hate speech.
	We either have free speech or we don't.
	Someone come up to me tomorrow and call me the K-word.
	I don't know if I can say that on YouTube.
	It's owned by Jews.
	But someone can call me that.
	I'm not saying it.
	I promise.
	Someone can call me that.
	It doesn't bother me.
	In certain situations, you might get...
	Same with me.
	People call me a terrorist all the time or an Arab or whatever, and I don't get angry.
	I'm like, words don't have power over me.
	Yeah, they call me black or a nigga.
	Again, if you get punched in the face if it's a bad situation, that's a risk you take.
	People might lash out, but...
	I'm not.
	I'm not going to risk my career and my earnings.
	I'm not going to have you sue me because I couldn't keep my cool because you called me a racial slur.
	That doesn't bother me.
	Those words have no meaning to me.
	So we either have free speech or we don't.
	So I want to see everybody platformed.
	I want to hear what everybody has to say.
	Hate speech is still free speech.
	We should all have the right to say it.
	Now there are limits, obviously you have incitement, so unless we're going against the actual framework of free speech, which is basically everything but incitement, we're good to go.
	So there's a streamer by the name of Phantom.
	He's 26 years old, just had a heart attack, basically, and stopped streaming for a while.
	Mo, do you have the link real quick?
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, I saw that.
	Why did he get a heart attack?
	I have no idea, but he eats terribly, bro, on camera.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Really bad.
	Oh, he does like mukbangs and shit like that?
	Is he overweight?
	He might be.
	It's going to take over.
	But he's 26 years old.
	He's a streamer.
	He got a heart attack at 26?
	Yes, 26.
	That's crazy, by the way.
	Are there any extenuating circumstances?
	He didn't go into detail, but we just know that he didn't stream because- For just saying his diet is bad.
	Yeah, really bad.
	And let's just keep it a thousand.
	If you're African American, you have a predisposition to have higher blood pressure than normal people.
	You are not going to be as tolerant of sodium as others, right?
	And people don't get the tests.
	Here we go.
	Had a heart attack.
	I was scared two days ago.
	I'm not gonna lie.
	I thought I was out of here, Chad.
	Another reminder that health is wealth.
	I'll be streaming tomorrow, 100%.
	10 hour plus stream tomorrow.
	So you said he eats poorly?
	Poorly, bro.
	He's part of Kaisen, not Steam.
	Okay.
	A&P. Yeah.
	All right.
	So you need to get certain tests.
	Okay, so Chad is saying he's obese.
	Yeah.
	He's 26, though.
	Someone said overweight and vaxxed him.
	So you need to get certain tests.
	Blood work at least every 12 months, if not every 6.
	Get everything checked, from your panels to your hormones.
	Calcium scoring.
	People don't get that.
	You need to get your calcium scoring.
	It's like $50.
	You go in, they do a scan of your heart, tells you your arterial plaque, your arthrosclerosis, all that good stuff.
	Another thing, especially for lighter skin folks like myself, skin check.
	Skin cancer's a bitch.
	I've had two carcinomas taken off.
	And then...
	45 plus, colonoscopy.
	You do those four scans, and you're able to, because a lot of these things, like, if they do find arterial plaque, let's say you do go and get a calcium scoring, first thing the doctors would want to do is put you on statins, because it does, you know, decrease your plaque.
	It does, resuvastatin has data on that, but there's natural things as well.
	Natokinase, vitamin K have both been shown to reduce arterial plaque.
	Niacin, you get the extended release, not the no flush, but the extended release, so it doesn't give you the Flush.
	So you wanna get that, you take that as well.
	And then there's citrus bergamot.
	All things that'll help to reduce that arterial plaque and keep your blood pressure and cholesterol in check.
	So I think there's natural remedies, but you need to get it checked.
	People don't get their stuff checked.
	And that's where I think a lot of people, a lot of these things with early detection, you could prevent a lot of things.
	Just real quick as well.
	So, Bantam has this, like, thing on stream where he tax people.
	So, tax means he's gonna get your food and eat it.
	So, let's say you're on stream eating food.
	He'll tax you by taking your food and eating it.
	Wow.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, it's funny, but it worked against him, I guess, because, like, he had a lot of pizza, junk food, whatever.
	But again, I mean, at that age, bro...
	I hope he buys the person the food again.
	Yeah.
	I don't think he does.
	He's kind of fucked up.
	I don't think he does.
	Bro, what's up with this shock content where you're fucking just violating random people in the streets?
	I mean, people got shot for the...
	He just got shot.
	Bro, anything for clout, man.
	These fucking guys, like...
	Yeah.
	Incredible.
	Yeah, vitamin K2 is the one that reduces plaque.
	Okay.
	Somebody in the chat just reminded me, not just K, K2. Let's talk about sleep real quick.
	Yes.
	Because this is something that I don't think people understand how important it is when it comes to building your body, improving your physique.
	I think if you sleep enough and you get enough sleep, it's literally like drugs almost.
	And I've made a very...
	Strong pursuit to make sure I'm sleeping 8 to 10 hours.
	I'll do it where I might have a day or two where we're grinding and I didn't sleep that much, but then I'll go ahead and supercompensate and sleep 12, 13, 14 hours the next day.
	And sometimes it comes at me missing a whole day, but I don't give a shit because I've realized that sleep is just that important.
	It helps you recover.
	I feel better.
	And people say, I'll sleep when I'm dead.
	I think that's one of the dumbest quotes ever when your goal is to maximize body composition and overall wellness.
	What's your thoughts on sleep?
	Well, sleep when you're dead.
	If you want to die earlier, don't sleep.
	So the American Heart Association has actually listed sleep and lack of sleep as one of the main predicators for heart disease and dying prematurely of a heart attack or any of that stuff.
	So sleep when you're dead.
	Yeah, you're going to die sooner, most likely.
	So get your sleep.
	Generally speaking...
	Sleep is probably the most important thing, and that's where my hormones tanked, when I wasn't getting enough sleep.
	And it was because I was on that whole, like, I like winning, and for me, no matter what it took to win, whether it was working 18, 19, 20 hours a day, I did what it took to win.
	And it got me where I'm at today, but I don't have regrets, but it did cause some problems, right?
	So I definitely think seven hours is a good, like, okay.
	That's the goal.
	If you can get to 8, by all means do it.
	Now, it's going to be hard for parents.
	And I say that because, again, soccer practice might get out at 9 p.m.
	and you've got to get up for work at 5 a.m.
	There's no way you're getting 7 hours, bro.
	So 6 to 9 would be the range.
	Get in that range.
	And again, it depends on what you read.
	Huberman has this thing where he's like, well, it's more important that you wake up at the same time.
	I'm like, that's for circadian rhythm.
	I'm looking at recovery and all that shit.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm looking at overall, so there is sleep reserves.
	So think about it like a gas tank.
	You can only fill it so much, but if it goes down here and you only fill it here, you still have this much left to get to full.
	So let's say, let's just throw out random bullshit numbers.
	Let's say you're lacking four hours of sleep and you oversleep by two hours.
	You've still got two hours to make up.
	So if you can get all that sleep at once, it's still going to get you in a position where you're replacing that sleep.
	And your body will still go through those processes of recovering and also memory.
	The worst thing you could do for a test if you're a student, I know a lot of younger people watch your show, is cram for a test.
	Because sleep is where memory is formed.
	Sleep is where you remember stuff.
	It's where you gain that knowledge.
	So sleep is vastly underdone.
	A lot of people stay up late.
	And at the end of the day, in a perfect world, you would go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time every day and have that set eight hours of sleep.
	That's not going to happen.
	Not in the real world.
	Especially if you're an entrepreneur.
	I'm not by any means throwing shade at Hubert Mudd.
	He lives in this funny world where everything's controlled and you can wake up and right when the sun rises you're staring at it and then you're jumping in a cold plunge and you're grounding.
	Nobody can do that shit.
	Yeah, the average person is not going to...
	No, no.
	It's not practical.
	You've got to do the best you can.
	And the one thing we can all do is sleep better.
	There's nothing wrong with naps either.
	If your sleep needs topped off, take a nap.
	Just make sure that it's not going to be closer to your bedtime where it's going to affect your normal sleep cycle.
	I think sleep is actually one of the most anabolic things you could do that's like natural.
	And I think it's something that's been like significantly, you know, underrated in the fitness world.
	Because especially if your goal is like improving your body composition, like building more lean body mass and while, you know, dropping off body fat, sleep is one of the best things you can do.
	I mean, if you're sleeping eight to ten hours a night, eating one gram per pound of body weight of protein, You're drinking that water I mentioned.
	You're eating leafy greens.
	80% of your diet is from wholesome, nutritious food.
	You know, the other 20% you can have a pot-tart here or there or whatever.
	And you're counting your calories and you're maintaining, you know, where you're at calorie maintenance, right, of your TDE. You're going to be in a pretty damn good spot.
	You're going to feel better.
	You're going to look better.
	You're going to improve your body composition in general depending on what your goals are.
	And it's crazy to me how, like, What I've noticed from the fitness industry, and I really want to get your take on this, is they don't prioritize or they don't talk about the things that are free, that actually help you improve.
	Controlling your caloric intake, especially the macronutrient of protein, sleeping eight to ten hours a night, drinking enough water.
	It's crazy to me how people walk around and sit there and say, Well, you know, I'm thinking about taking this fat burner and all this other shit, and then they go to the bathroom and piss, and you walk in thereafter, and it fucking is yellow as hell, and it stinks.
	And it's like, bro, you don't even have your foundation on point.
	You shouldn't even be talking about using creatine or using supplements.
	You don't even got the basics down.
	What the fuck are you over here asking me about supplements for when you don't even have the rudimentary basics down?
	It's like, what the fuck?
	Like, people are so concerned with, like, it's like...
	I look at it like this.
	A lot of people look at it like they want to get ornaments for the Christmas tree, but they don't have the fucking Christmas tree, right?
	They want to put these fucking little trinkets on it and the little balls and all this other stuff.
	They're like, wow, this star's going to look great on this fucking tree, but they don't have a tree.
	It's like, if you want to decorate the tree, that's fine, but buy the fucking tree first.
	And people don't understand that the tree is the rudimentary basics of what it takes.
	And it's amazing to me how like the fitness industry, there's obviously honest guys like you, Elaine Norton, Huberman, who else?
	Brian Schof.
	Hanselman?
	Yeah, Hanselman.
	Yeah, that dude's smart.
	Yeah, who else?
	I'm trying to think that are evidence-based.
	Brad Schoenfeld, etc.
	You guys are honest with the people where it's like, look, and you own a supplement company.
	And you're still, dude, you don't need none of this shit.
	Do this.
	And then, you want to supplement?
	Awesome.
	We want to get that extra 10%.
	And that's why I've always liked Tiger Fitness, bought a bunch of stuff from the website.
	You guys should go support them at tigerfitness.com.
	Yeah, please, man.
	The economy sucks.
	We got bills to pay.
	But it's like, you're brutally honest with this where even though it doesn't like help your bottom line.
	And I've always, that's one thing I've always really respected about you.
	I appreciate that.
	But I, so I get, the most angry people get is in Instagram DMs.
	When they'll be like, hey, what fat burn you recommend?
	And I'm like, well, what's your diet like?
	I just want to know fat burn.
	No, no, let's get to the root of it.
	Like, and people want a quick fix.
	They don't want the work.
	Look, man, I make supplements.
	If I can make the perfect supplements where I didn't have to train so hard that everything always fucking hurts.
	Yeah.
	Like, I'd make it.
	It just doesn't exist.
	So I look at it this way.
	Like, if you were to just take that wall and paint it pink, it wouldn't work.
	You've got to put primer on it, right?
	Yeah.
	So in order for your body to lose fat effectively, you've got to make sure it has primer.
	So you've got to make sure your health is in order.
	So a lot of people look at the outsides, and they don't look at the insides.
	And, you know, if they insist I recommend something like, cool, here's our multivitamin pack, Immortal, and Nectar, which is our organ health.
	Take that.
	It's health.
	What's that going to do to help me lose fat?
	Well, it's going to make you healthier.
	Well, that doesn't burn fat.
	I'm like, okay.
	You know what burns fat?
	Like, if you're looking at...
	See, supplements do just that.
	They supplement.
	They don't substitute.
	There's no substitution for training.
	Nothing works unless you do.
	Period.
	Maya Angelou quote that we use for our site, that we've trademarked in the fitness industry, because it's what I've always stood for.
	I'm not going to forsake myself for a couple extra bucks and lie to people.
	At the end of the day, it comes down to work.
	It comes down to discipline.
	But dieting for the general population isn't that hard.
	I mean, for people to get as big as they are, they have to eat a lot of food.
	Like, they have to really eat a lot to be as big as they are.
	But if people simply, again, resistance train, like you said earlier, two, three times a week.
	If you're serious, four, five, right?
	And then did some cardiovascular.
	Now, you don't have to even plan cardio.
	If you live in a place like Miami, just walk.
	Like, you can walk everywhere here.
	It's crazy.
	You just have to be hot and female with a halter top.
	That's what I've learned today.
	Yeah.
	It's not a bad thing.
	And I mean, drink enough water, and that's the thing, people don't hydrate enough, people are severely dehydrated, and hydration will keep you from getting hungry.
	Sleep, you're talking about sleep.
	It boosts your performance significantly, too.
	I've gotten to a point now, because I remember just being, when I was an athlete, my coach would drill this into us.
	If you go into the bathroom and you piss and it comes out yellow, you should be angry at yourself.
	Like, what are you doing?
	I will push back a gym session sometimes where I'm supposed to go to the gym at like 2 and I'll piss and it's like bright yellow.
	I'll be like, oh my god.
	And I'll wait like an hour.
	I'll drink more water and then I'll make sure I'm pissing somewhat clear before I go because it does hinder performance to a degree.
	I mean, maybe not to the same significance of an hour, but it's like I don't think people understand the importance of hydration and how much it can fuck you up if you're not hydrated.
	And sleep.
	You were talking about that earlier.
	I didn't get a chance to read the study.
	He posted it while I was on the flight, but that sleep actually, if you don't get enough sleep, I think it was like five hours versus eight hours.
	I think it was five versus seven that you actually, it impedes your ability to grow muscle and lose fat.
	So, I mean, sleep is critical.
	So, sleep, hydration, caloric control.
	Again, you go back to there were no fat people at concentration camps.
	If you're in a caloric deficit, I don't care what your thyroid is, I don't care what any of that is, there are better ways to lose fat, and that's why Ozempic's working.
	Because people can't eat.
	They're just not eating.
	They're starving themselves.
	It literally, it almost dummy proofs it.
	The keto diet, I've always said, is stupid proof because as we were discussing earlier, you're not losing weight because you're just eating protein all day or keto.
	It's because you're eliminating an entire macronutrient group which people are predisposed to overeat.
	A lot of people are addicted to bread.
	They're addicted to sugary stuff and all that comes with carbs.
	Who snacks on ribeye?
	Nobody.
	I'm just nibbling ribeye.
	It takes away your ability to snack.
	I got done with the New York Pro.
	And the keto snacks are like, you can't eat a lot.
	Bro, you can't sit there and eat a whole bag of jerky.
	You're like, what the fuck?
	You're going to feel like shit.
	When I'm dieting for a show, when I did the New York Pro last year, I was like, boom, my meals were on point.
	I missed a couple because I have a job.
	And that's probably why I got my ass kicked.
	When you got at the end of your diet and you were like, you know, glute shredded, how many calories were you at?
	Oh man, I keep so...
	We're talking a real nerdy show right now.
	So I actually don't...
	I'd have to do math.
	So my carbs were at 360 grams.
	Damn, even at the end of the diet.
	And my protein was 350.
	I do better on high protein.
	My fat was around 100, so I don't measure fat.
	I just adjust the food choices.
	And it naturally happens.
	Towards the end of a diet, I might need more satiation, so I might add in beef.
	Or sometimes what happens with me is I have a fast, as you can tell by my macros, where my stomach shrinks and I can't take in as much fat.
	So I'll eat chicken just because it's easier to get down.
	So you were stage ready eating 360 carbs?
	I'm basically a week away from stage right now if I wanted to, and I'm at 400 carbs and 350 protein.
	That's fucking awesome, man.
	I'm blessed with a good metabolism.
	But when I was competing as lightweight, I had to go down to like 1200.
	But for some reason, as I've aged, I don't take T3 or any crazy shit.
	I just don't.
	Because I don't want to die.
	And I don't need to.
	But for some reason, as I got past my 20s, my metabolism actually got better.
	And it doesn't add up to the muscle.
	I think it's sleep.
	Because I never slept.
	I never slept.
	And as I got older and I really focused on my health and sleeping, my metabolism...
	You get a lot of you need more calories.
	Yeah, and I mean, and my blood work's always perfect.
	I think that has a lot to do with it.
	Sure.
	Because your body's just an official machine getting, like, burning the calories.
	It doesn't make sense, even though...
	It should be getting slower as I get older.
	But I found that for the New York Pro when I won the USA's, I was able to diet on such a high level of calories.
	The lowest I went, I think I did two low days at 200 grams of carbs.
	That was the lowest I ever went.
	That's still pretty high.
	Most people can't diet down to that lean on that.
	Yeah, and I mean, I'm also extremely active.
	You're like Alberto Nunez.
	He also diets on very high carbs.
	He shredded his shit.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Alberto's OG. We guest posed together in 2015, 2016.
	That was so much fun.
	He's such a good dude.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Eric Callum's the whole 3DMG guy.
	Oh, dude, yeah, they're great guys.
	I highly recommend their stuff.
	Like, they're legit.
	But, you know, I look at it this way.
	Like, I'm also very active.
	Like, I move around a lot.
	I'm fidgety.
	And I walk a lot.
	I go on walks between conference calls.
	And I coach.
	Coaching two hours a day, that's a lot of movement.
	Oh, yeah.
	Coaching's hard.
	Running around with kids.
	Yeah, I mean, because I demonstrate things.
	Spotting people is a lot of work.
	So your knee is fucking high.
	It's insane.
	So I'm burning a lot of calories.
	That's non-exercise something thermogenesis.
	Non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
	There you go.
	Neat.
	Yeah, so it's...
	For me, it's about probably staying active.
	I don't sit.
	I can't take days off.
	I mean, I take days off the gym.
	My body would fall apart.
	Of course, of course.
	Like, five days a week, I'm...
	There's no seven days a week for this guy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I'm 43.
	I feel it.
	Like, I've...
	Gear usage.
	Yes.
	Can you talk a little bit about that as far as like, if someone might be watching this podcast right now, right?
	And I think this is an important discussion to have.
	Let me some steroids, yeah.
	Yeah, and they're thinking about going into the dark side and using, right?
	What would be your, you know, they're like, maybe I want to be a pro, maybe I want to become a fitness influencer, because a lot of these young guys, you know, always...
	Don't fall to the temptation.
	What are your thoughts on it?
	What should they really think about and consider before they take that step?
	Because there might be someone literally watching right now that's like thinking about it.
	So I would really recommend if you can, get a doctor who can help you with the process.
	If you can get a prescription, and the main reason is, number one, is they'll keep your blood levels right, they'll make sure you're not in a dangerous zone, and another thing is that you know your source.
	You're getting it from a pharmacy.
	If you're buying black market steroids, I've had so many friends get cellulitis, which essentially they have to cut out, if it gets bad, one of my friends had to cut out part of his quad.
	Cellulitis is from an infection, basically a dirty injection.
	Even if you clean the area, if the oil's dirty, Like you don't realize, you don't know where this shit's made.
	Of course.
	So number one is source.
	So I'm not going to be on that whole like prescription or you're evil.
	Nah, fuck that.
	We're talking about steroids.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so number one is make sure you have a good source.
	So let's take, let's assume your dealer's your doctor for the sake of entertainment purposes only.
	Yeah.
	The number one thing I'd recommend, don't take Tren.
	Tren is a very harsh drug.
	Your blood pressure will go up 20 to 30 beats.
	I mean, it'll fuck you up.
	It's very harsh.
	I know a lot of pros have stopped using it, just because of the sides.
	And if you do use it, more is not always better.
	And that leads to the third one.
	More is not always better.
	Another thing is know the drug you're using.
	For example, DECA causes something called DECADIC. It's something to do, I believe they've linked it to dopamine or prolactin.
	I'm not sure what the mechanism is.
	There's drugs you take with it, but then it's like Big Pharma.
	You're taking one drug to knock out one drug.
	My thing is, if it affects your penis, don't take DECA, because the standard starting stack is Test and DECA. So, with that being said, you want to pick a testosterone.
	Take that.
	More is not always better.
	Yeah, I mean, or if you're trying to be a bodybuilder and you're trying to be great, you're going to have to go beyond therapeutic, but more is not always better.
	That doesn't mean take two grams of it a week.
	It's like, man, take 300.
	Once you stop getting results on 300, go to 500.
	A good second drug, primabolin's great.
	A lot of people are moving to primabolin.
	Dosage on that is about 200 milligrams to 600 milligrams.
	Again, start the lowest.
	When you start getting results, add more.
	So there's other drugs you could throw in there.
	Masterone.
	And I would suggest against orals if you don't need them because they go through your liver.
	Whereas injectable, they still do, but it bypasses that first pass of the liver.
	So I would say that a good beginner's cycle...
	And again, a lot of people disagree with me because everybody has a, is, you know, test, about 300 to 500 milligrams.
	Primobolin, between 200 and 500.
	And do this all with a doctor, obviously.
	Of course, always with a doctor.
	Consult with your doctor.
	But again, primobolin, you're not getting a prescription for it.
	So we're assuming that your doctor will advise you on stuff that you do.
	But I have to say that, but nobody's getting a doctor.
	Like, nobody here is like, let me call my doctor.
	Hey, man, I am taking Primo.
	So, I mean, those are the safer ones.
	It's hard to find good quality gear.
	I, you know, I've always been real big on telling guys, like, don't even fucking bother, man.
	Like, just try to train naturally as long as you can.
	That's it.
	And you'd be amazed at what you can build in five years.
	And that's what I mean, dude, by the time I started TRT, you know, I was 27.
	I'd already been competing.
	I was competing as a middleweight in the 170s, naturally.
	And then I started TRT. My body responds very well to androgens.
	I never have to take crazy doses.
	Never did.
	And why would you?
	The more dose, the more risk.
	And my theory is, why take any risk?
	If you're not making money from it, if you're not competing...
	I mean, what's a...
	And also, I just gotta be real with you people.
	Like, you're probably not gonna get a pro card.
	It's very fucking hard.
	And I'm not saying that to kill people's dreams.
	I look like shit and I got one, so it can happen, right?
	But like, you know, even if you get a pro card, there's no money in it.
	The people making the money are just random influencers who've never competed.
	If you want to do fitness for money, find a shtick, find a grift, and roll with it on Instagram.
	Maybe you're a trainer who tells people they have to train less and do this.
	You don't have to be the fucking liver king.
	You don't have to deceive people and take drugs and tell people you don't.
	Again, you could do all that naturally.
	If you're an Instagram model, work on angles.
	I'd rather you have angles and lighting than risk your health.
	Work on those cool angles.
	Get a good editor to do whatever the fuck they want to do with the pictures.
	But I'd recommend that you don't do steroids.
	But if you're going to do them, I've found in most people I talk to, Primo's like...
	Probably the one I'd stack with testosterone.
	Gotcha.
	Less is more.
	There's a setup where like, well from what I was told is, you can go to a doctor and you do a blood test.
	And then they tell you what you need on a protocol and they give it to you in small doses where you can actually manage it.
	And that's healthy and you still get what you want.
	And then there's growth hormone as well you can use as well?
	So growth hormone I started taking when I turned 40.
	Just as anti.
	It's not enough to do shit.
	It's two IUs five days a week.
	I'm not gaining muscle from it, but I will tell you this.
	My skin qualities, again, there's therapeutic dosage, and we don't know what the fuck happens at this dosage.
	So two IUs five days a week is therapeutic dosage.
	That is all prescribed through a doctor.
	It's pharmaceutical.
	So it's one of those where I take it for longevity.
	So it's not meant...
	If it does something, it's not, look, two IUs is not gonna be crazy.
	And GH is overrated anyway.
	You're not growing muscle from GH. No, you're not.
	It was just kind of funny because it's called growth hormone.
	Yeah.
	But people don't realize that it doesn't really help you grow.
	No, I mean, if you, now again, if you're in the, these guys, I know people taking 20 IUs a day.
	I don't take that in two weeks.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	So they're taking that per day.
	I've known a guy who got a second mortgage on his house to buy GH. Damn!
	And then you look at guys like Boston Lloyd, right?
	Rest in peace to him.
	He died.
	He was one of the first influencers to really come out and talk about using gear.
	And he talked about his stack openly and all this other shit.
	And that's one thing I do respect about him.
	But look, he's dead now.
	He died.
	And it's from using this stuff.
	And I want anybody that's thinking about Getting into this or whatever it may be like, guys, trust me man, especially if you got good genetics, you can probably build a pretty damn good aesthetic physique naturally.
	Yes, it'll take longer.
	Yes, it's gonna suck.
	Yes, you might not be able to compete in the IFBB and get a pro card, but you even said to yourself, there's not much money in it anyway.
	There's no money in it.
	Every one of these guys, even the pros who are making money, they're in debt.
	Listen, no offense to any bodybuilder out there.
	But most of them are broke.
	Not because they're bad people, but because, like you said, there's no money in it.
	And even less now.
	Here's the other thing, too.
	Me and you were talking about this.
	It used to be you can really monetize by being a pro because social media wasn't as big.
	You had to go to these expos.
	You had to go and meet and greet the people.
	You had more of a standing before the explosion of social media.
	But now since social media is here, you can build a platform and you don't necessarily have to have a pro card to be as legit.
	I remember when I first started getting heavy into it.
	Like 2011, right?
	If you didn't have a pro card or you weren't competing or whatever, people didn't take you seriously.
	Exactly.
	But now, you can build a platform with never competing and people still rock with you.
	But back then, it was like, you've never competed, shut the fuck up, no one takes you seriously.
	What about stem cells?
	So I did have stem cells.
	I injured my thumb boxing.
	You could actually tell this one's more...
	Actually, it's gotten better.
	So I had stem cells and they did nothing.
	So there's no data...
	I have a lot of friends in the stem cell space.
	For me, it didn't help my thumb.
	But I know a lot of people, Chris Gethin, a lot of people have gotten great results from stem cells.
	I think it has to be the right place, right time.
	And my buddy, Ed Clay, Owns a phenomenal facility in Mexico, in Tijuana, which is actually like the place.
	So for me, again, I had domestic stem cells.
	That could be the issue.
	But I've known people who've gone there, and it has changed their life.
	That's what I heard.
	But the data, I'm not going to endorse it, because the data, it's all anecdotal.
	So the data is like, eh.
	We don't have the data that it really does much of anything.
	So...
	You're gonna have to go by people's anecdote.
	And again, the problem with anecdote, and again, everything we have in science was found by anecdote.
	Like Arnold didn't have studies showing that what he was doing worked.
	He did it, it worked.
	People were like, we should study that shit.
	A lot of pro science, yeah.
	Yeah, that's pro science in the nutshell, right?
	A lot of pro science, yeah.
	So what I look at it as is that it's doing something for some people.
	Is it placebo?
	I don't know.
	But it's very expensive.
	But if you have the bag, And you could throw down, you know, whatever it costs to go there and do it.
	And you have some, and you want to avoid surgery.
	So the reason I did this to my thumb is I wanted to avoid surgery.
	And I was able to do that.
	I went to a good doctor afterwards.
	He's like, you don't need surgery.
	Here's what you're going to do.
	You know, basically every six months I get a cortisone shot.
	I control it with, you know, with topical medication.
	I'm able to box again.
	Nice.
	So, I mean, that's great for me.
	Because for me, they have to literally, it's a six month to 12 month healing.
	They have to put in a fake joint.
	I don't want that shit.
	Fuck that.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, it hurts a little bit.
	Especially something as important as your thumb.
	Yeah, dude.
	I mean, how am I going to be texting nudes?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I can't do that.
	You can't send dick pics with a fucked up thumb.
	No, you got to be like the boomers.
	They text like this.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, yeah.
	Old people text like that.
	that that's true fucking poke it man I'm like I'm like fucking fluent yeah speaking on all this some chats here yeah we'll read some of these chats and then guys we're gonna go on over to the zoom call where you guys can you know have open Q&A there you want to talk about fitness health longevity yeah whatever but yo guys real talk man I don't want none of you guys using roids, man.
	It's really not worth it, guys.
	Stay away from it.
	Mark has been really transparent about it.
	Some of you guys are going to fucking do it anyway, no matter what.
	So obviously he's saying the least invasive way.
	But guys, it's really not worth it, man.
	You can build a platform, become a fitness influencer.
	You don't have to be fucking huge and jacked.
	Like it used to be and have a pro card to have a platform in today's day and age.
	You can literally build a platform by just having charisma, having a decent enough physique, and being able to hold an audience, captivate an audience.
	What do we got here, Mo?
	Y'all getting too bass.
	I'm a contractor and I'm feeling like my clearance is going to get revoked listening to the stream.
	Silky silk.
	Hey man, just don't tell me to listen to us, bro.
	Should've soaked.
	We got a question for Mark Lobliner.
	How many times per week should a person take a pre-workout supplement and do you think it's safe for it to take it long-term?
	Thank you, Fresh and Fit, whole team for the value.
	We got you, bro.
	Thank you for the question, brother.
	So I can't speak on every pre-workout.
	I don't know what's in every pre-workout and I don't know their testing.
	So there's quality control.
	Of course.
	With Ambrosia, we got a product called Kinetic that's available at Sprouts as well.
	That is BSCG tested.
	It's also GMP NSF certified.
	So I know what's in it.
	You could take, so I look at this.
	When a 42 year old housewife goes to Starbucks every day, no one says a word.
	At the end of the day, most pre-workouts are caffeine with some ergogenic aids like creatine and beta alanine.
	Honestly, I take kinetic twice a day.
	How many grams of caffeine do you suggest per day?
	I like to keep it under a gram.
	Most people are fine up to two grams.
	It's very, very person sensitive because caffeine is very independent.
	You know those people who just down shit all day long.
	I can't do that anymore.
	A gram is a lot.
	A gram is a lot.
	I might take in like 600, 800.
	So I'll usually take in a cup of coffee in the morning, then I'll take a kinetic before training, and then before I have to do focused work, I'll take kinetic because it has the mushroom enhanced kind of mental stuff in it.
	Or if I don't want that caffeine, we have mental joules, which is 99 milligrams.
	That's all from ambrosia.
	But I mean, some of these pre-workouts have like 600 mg of caffeine in it.
	And some of these people are just sucking down Ghost.
	And I'll drink a Ghost here and there.
	I love them.
	But I think some people are just so...
	It's addicted to caffeine.
	It almost becomes like it knocks down your energy.
	Because overstimulating with caffeine, your adrenals just shut down.
	So if you take in too much caffeine, assuming it's under the range that'll kill you, because there is an LD50 for caffeine, it can kill you.
	It's hard to do, but people are stupid.
	That you'll actually get more tired, you'll find, if you overdo caffeine.
	All right.
	What do we got here next?
	And Mark, how old are you, by the way, for the audience?
	I'm 43.
	43, looking great, man.
	Pause.
	Question for Mark Lobliner.
	Oh, no, sorry.
	Myron, what kind of pre-workout do you take?
	I mean, I'll just drink a Gorilla Mind or something like that.
	I used to take Ghost or whatever.
	I'll try Kinetic if you have some.
	Yeah, I'll send it.
	I know the address.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Send it.
	I'll definitely check it out.
	Those protein bars you put me on with last time were really fucking good, by the way.
	Yeah, the outright bars.
	Appreciate it.
	Those are good, man.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, fucking fantastic.
	I meant to tell you that.
	Hey Mark, I've had chronic arthritis in seven joints that doctors couldn't figure out how to treat after I got Lyme disease.
	Keto has helped me help treat the pain down from 10 out of 10 to a 2 out of 10, but I've read that keto really negatively affects testosterone.
	I'm down 32 pounds, but I feel a bit lethargic.
	Do you recommend I check my test and see if it's low?
	What should I do?
	I was 675 before.
	Well, congratulations on the weight loss, bro.
	Oh man, so this is awesome.
	I love this question.
	Thank you for asking this.
	Number one is Lyme disease is most certainly a bitch.
	I didn't even realize people still get that shit.
	Number two is I don't care what's going on.
	You should get your blood work every 6 to 12 months no matter what.
	So do that anyway.
	Go get it immediately.
	Number three is I don't give a fuck what keto does about your testosterone.
	You brought your arthritis pain from 10 out of 10 to 2 out of 10.
	Keep doing keto.
	Keto's working for you, keep doing it.
	Keto and carnivore, it's applications is it takes away all potential inflammatory foods.
	So there are applications for carnivore.
	I'm not anti-carnivore, I'm not anti-keto.
	I think every diet has an application.
	That's fantastic.
	I'm really happy.
	There's no best diet, whenever people ask me this, I think the best diet is the one that you can adhere to that helps you feel the best.
	Yeah.
	Everyone is different.
	Some people need to have a ketogenic diet to feel better.
	Some people need carbohydrates or else they can't function.
	Everyone's different.
	Lyme disease is debilitating.
	Yeah.
	It is so bad.
	Dude, I didn't realize people still get that shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	I got a good friend who has it.
	What is that?
	It's spread by ticks normally.
	So it's like, yeah, dude.
	It's kind of- Oh, from like dogs and shit?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You can get it from your dog, yeah.
	Or by living in Tennessee.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If your dog isn't clean and shit, that's why it's so important to take care of your dog.
	But like- Hey, man.
	That nigga here will never get- You're a hero, bro?
	Yeah.
	You better be good, bro.
	But there's like...
	Isn't there like...
	There's like cures for Lyme disease now, or is it still...
	Nah, it's still...
	You just have to treat it.
	Damn, okay.
	It's terrible.
	Wow.
	I don't see it often, man.
	I remember I used to see it a lot as a kid.
	How do you get it from a tick?
	Growing up as a kid, I remember it was a big thing in the 90s, in the early 2000s.
	Hold on, you're telling me your dog has ticks, and then they bite you, you get Lyme disease?
	Yeah, they have to latch on and do what ticks do.
	Well, yeah, the ticks can come from the dog to you.
	It can come from anywhere.
	You get it just from walking in the woods.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I always check.
	We went hiking in Chattanooga last weekend, and I was like, man, we've got to check everything, because they'll hide.
	They'll get up in areas, man.
	Armpits and shit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	It's bad.
	I just haven't heard of it.
	I don't know if I'm showing my age here.
	Please correct me if I'm wrong.
	Was there a big campaign in the 90s to combat ticks and combat Lyme disease?
	And I mean, we still give our dogs tick medicine.
	I mean, it's still a thing.
	I'll tell you this, bro.
	They better tick off.
	Boo.
	It's like, what is another disease that I don't see people with?
	Like TB. Tuberculosis?
	Leprosy.
	Biblical.
	Back in the day.
	Bro, what the hell?
	That's like polio.
	That's way back in the day.
	That's like BC. This guy.
	Like Jesus.
	The fucking biblical diseases.
	Okay, what else do we got here?
	Oh, man.
	Anything else?
	Yes.
	We got some more.
	All right, guys, we're going to do a Zoom call with Mark after this, by the way.
	Right now.
	So, guys, come on over here in a second at CalsClub.tv, man.
	We're going to be doing a Zoom call.
	Stream is going to continue on over there.
	I've been hooked on Chipotle for the past month thanks to Myron and Lost 5 Pounds.
	I think you need a Chipotle to sponsor now.
	You need it.
	You know, guys, the thing I like about Chipotle is you can easily track the calories, man.
	So here's what I love about Chipotle.
	When I'm prepping, and I'm not serious on a few weeks, it's chicken and rice.
	So I'll literally, at the beginning of the day, they open at like 11.
	I'll get four chicken and rice, and I'm good.
	Double meat and rice and grilled peppers.
	And I'm set for the day.
	You don't do the beans?
	When I'm prepping, here's why.
	I usually eat it while driving, and the beans are much sloppier.
	So if I'm on a road show, I'm like...
	So if something spills or something, you'll be fine.
	I don't sit and eat, man.
	I'm always moving, so I'm like, I gotta get to appointment, too.
	I got it on my lap.
	I'm like, and I'm wearing bright clothes or something.
	Yeah, those beans will fuck you up.
	The beans will fuck up your clothes, man.
	Hell yeah.
	So I would eat beans.
	Because they have them drenched in that fucking sauce.
	I love the beans.
	I'll get the beans if I'm sitting.
	Yeah.
	I know you guys are going to ask.
	I always get white rice, black beans, double chicken.
	Or steak.
	Or steak sometimes, if it's a bowl.
	If it's a bowl.
	And then mild sauce and corn.
	That's it.
	You know what I get?
	Yeah, the steak's leaner than the chicken.
	Hey, man.
	Steak has less calories than chicken, yeah.
	And their thing.
	Yeah, Chipotle.
	It's sirloin.
	It's lean as hell.
	Okay.
	Well, you can guess what I get, because I'm black.
	But I get brown rice, pinto beans, Double chicken.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hey, a little bit more chicken on the side, please.
	Thank you so much.
	Corn.
	Mouth salsa.
	And if I'm happy, I get...
	Vinegar sauce.
	Let's go!
	How was that a black order?
	That was not a guess.
	Double chicken, bro!
	That doesn't help.
	It wasn't fried.
	It wasn't fried, so it doesn't count, man.
	I'm like, I didn't know they served watermelon.
	If you're not a watermelon warrior, you're not really black, bro.
	Hey, man, great gorilla mind.
	You ain't black.
	Yeah, you ain't black.
	You gotta be a watermelon warrior.
	What else do we got here?
	What's up next?
	I'm sorry!
	I'm surrounded.
	I love it.
	WFNF Gym Stream.
	Myron loves seeing your team at the gym working to better themselves.
	Get Chris Bumass in the gym stream too.
	I love to see the whole FNF Cash Jack pausing flex on the haters.
	Yes, we did a video early on Castle Club.
	It is on there right now.
	We're in the gym, me, Moe, Bills, and Myron.
	Oh yeah, by the way, Mark is good with...
	This is an athletic question.
	Let's go ahead and answer this one.
	This one actually...
	Mark, what is your opinion on sled push-pulls for athletic performance?
	Fucking do them.
	I love sleds.
	Yeah, they are.
	Very good.
	So here's why I love sleds.
	It's all concentric.
	You don't get sore.
	I can run a kid into the dirt with sleds because there's no eccentric action.
	It's all concentric.
	So what causes the soreness is generally the tearing of the eccentric.
	Yeah.
	Can you explain to the audience real quick that there's been an eccentric versus concentric motion?
	Eccentric is coming down.
	Yeah.
	Basically when the muscle lengthens.
	Yep.
	And when the muscle contracts, that is concentric.
	Yep.
	So if you think about a sled, you're not lowering.
	You're just pushing it.
	Yep.
	So, I mean, we...
	In lack of better terms, we beat the shit out of the kids with sleds.
	We fuck them up.
	We'll put ourselves up, put them up hills.
	Oh man, I worked the shit out of sleds.
	The lactic acid burned like crazy in the quads too.
	So doing forwards and backwards, backwards is fantastic because you're working antagonistically.
	Think about it, it's almost a partial leg extension.
	And it's single leg, everything from balance to joint integrity.
	It's bringing back memories right now.
	Because we used to push sleds a lot when I was on the team.
	We have two right now.
	We're probably getting another third.
	We don't have enough turf to fit more than that.
	It mimics the lactic acid buildup you get while rowing in the legs.
	We push sleds a lot.
	It's all concentric.
	There's no lowering.
	When you're working with athletes, especially in season with athletes, you want to keep the eccentric to a minimum because they can't get sore.
	They've got to play.
	They've got to perform.
	Even deadlifts, we will pick up the bar and they drop it.
	Oh, that's a big one of the athletes.
	Pick it up and drop it.
	Because I don't need them getting sore.
	I don't need that muscular damage.
	People get mad at that at the gym, but it is an actual valid technique for a lot of athletes.
	Well, that's why I have my own gym.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If they get mad at me, I just kick them out.
	Yeah.
	And just for the...
	So if you were to do it with a bench press, guys...
	So the eccentric portion is like when you're lowering it down on your chest and the concentric portion, when you push it up like this...
	Because the gym bros in here are going to be like...
	If you're bench pressing, because I know all you motherfuckers probably do chest every day...
	Eccentric is lowering the bar, and then when it hits the bar, concentric is pushing it back up.
	Hammer Strength makes a great machine for that.
	It's called the Jammer.
	I'm sure you've seen it.
	It's like a standing press.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Where you can actually lift and then just kind of let go.
	There are some machines that are better than free weights, man.
	There really are.
	Well, machines, if you're looking at actually stimulating the muscle, I'm still an old school guy, but if you're looking at actually overloading the muscle with less systemic stress, machines are going to be superior in a lot of ways.
	Yeah, they are.
	Obviously, dumbbells and barbells are great, but there are some movements where machines actually are just better.
	Well, the pendulum squat is the greatest thing.
	You can go full range of motion, controlled, no lower back stress.
	If you get an arsenal, it has the best pendulum.
	It's what we have in our gym.
	It's fantastic.
	What else do we got here?
	He might need to get more sodium in his diet.
	What do you think?
	Well, that sounds like some kind of allergic reaction to some food he's eating.
	That could be that too.
	They have this, I don't know the company, but they have blood tests.
	And your doctor can actually run it.
	My daughter ran that.
	She found out she's allergic to seafood.
	So, I mean, you definitely want to test for allergies.
	But, I mean, you're doing everything right.
	That's a lot of boxing.
	That's a lot of systemic stress.
	And I think the bloating is coming from something you're eating.
	For someone like you, I'd...
	If you want to just cure it right away, you have like an elimination diet, like carnivore or even like a vertical diet.
	Vertical diet is basically steak and rice.
	Whereas a carnivore diet would be just steak, more heavy fat.
	But I would...
	I would think that there's something in your diet that's causing that reaction.
	Yeah.
	But from what you said, that sounds more food-related to me.
	Yeah.
	Could be food-related.
	Maybe not getting enough sodium so your body's retaining water.
	Yeah, believe it or not.
	So when you drink a lot of water and you don't have enough electrolytes...
	You're basically making yourself more dehydrated.
	So you need to make sure you have electrolytes in your head.
	That too.
	What else do we got here?
	WMR and WBills, WMO with the Flow Basketball Americans L Section 8 W Cats Club.
	First live and tip as a brand new Cats Club member.
	Thank you so much, bro.
	I've been following you guys for two years now.
	You guys have inspired a tremendous amount of positive change in my life.
	And I think $35 a month is unbelievably reasonable for the cause and all the value that you guys have.
	I appreciate that, guys.
	Like I said before, you guys being in Castle Club keeps us independent, keeps us not having to rely on YouTube, keeps us being able to make the content that we want to make, because as you guys know, we're demonetized and it sucks, but you guys supporting us absolutely helps keep the lights on and helps keep the movement going.
	So yeah, literally shows like this are fueled by you guys.
	What else do we got here?
	And we're able to give you guys this kind of value, bringing on special guests that are very well versed in different topics.
	I'm 6'1", 167 pounds.
	Excuse me, Skinny, how do I track calories?
	I have tried multiple fitness apps and a food scale, but they don't seem to be working or I don't know how to use them.
	You just don't know how to use them.
	Yeah, they're working because it's math.
	You eat 60 carbs and it puts in 60 carbs and it will have your food choices.
	Make sure you have a food scale because you need to actually measure your food.
	But it's working.
	But the thing is, if you're trying to gain weight, it's a pretty simple proposition.
	You need to eat more food.
	I mean, it's like, you just need to eat more.
	But yeah, I hate to say this, but bro, it's not the app.
	Yeah, it's not the app.
	It's you, my friend.
	And most people don't even know how to count their calories correctly.
	Like guys, every morsel of food you consume needs to be tracked.
	All right?
	Especially you fat people that want to sit there and eat a whole ice cream and then...
	Hey, Myron, I'm Mark.
	I work out five to six times a week.
	I take organic protein supplement powder after every workout.
	Is it safe to take the protein supplement powder after every workout or should I lower the intake?
	Do you guys agree when you take a pre-workout or protein powder supplement, you see the results faster than when you don't take any supplements?
	Thank you for the value that you guys provide to all of us that's trying to better lives.
	Do we have, is this All Cats Club chats right here?
	Yeah.
	If it's All Cats Club, guys, let's switch over.
	Let's get those rumble chats in and then we're going to switch to Cows Club and then start the Q&A over there.
	Do you want to answer that?
	Yeah, please.
	Go ahead.
	So, protein powder is powdered food.
	It does nothing.
	It's food.
	It's just food you can drink.
	There's nothing special about it.
	You will not see results faster.
	Pre-workout is simply stimulants mixed with some ergogenic aids.
	Will you see results faster?
	Probably not noticeable, but again, it's a supplement.
	It makes your workouts better, might aid in some muscle growth, might aid in your recovery, might aid in your mental focus during your workout.
	But again, The only time protein powder causes any issues is if you don't buy it from me.
	Yeah, and guys, protein powder is a food, guys.
	It's food.
	It's a convenience food.
	I don't even consider protein powder a supplement.
	Yes, supplement stores do sell them.
	However, it is a food, my friends.
	And it's actually one of the best...
	I think if you're gonna buy anything, I think a protein powder is almost required, especially if you need to take 200 grams of protein a day.
	Guys, eating 200 grams of protein a day from food It's very difficult to do.
	It's so hard!
	It's not easy at all, dude.
	Like, fuck that.
	Like, you want to eat steak and chicken literally all day?
	Like, that's what you would need to do.
	Four of my seven meals are protein shakes.
	Yeah.
	I can't.
	I just don't have time.
	Yeah.
	I hate to be that guy, but I literally don't have the time to sit there and be like...
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to sit there...
	Like, I take a shake in.
	If I have a conference call, I'm not going to sit there and eat.
	I look like a...
	They already think I'm a douchebag for looking like I do.
	Yeah.
	Like, I'm not going to be more of a douchebag by sitting there, hold on, it's meal three.
	Yeah.
	It's fucking stupid.
	Drink a shake.
	Yeah, drink a shake.
	You'll be fine, guys.
	It ain't that serious.
	What I do is to get my greens in there.
	I make like a protein shake with spinach and banana drowns out the taste.
	Yes.
	It's good.
	Spinach is perfect.
	Yeah.
	Spinach is my favorite green.
	Kale is good, too, but it's disgusting.
	What do we got here?
	Oh, fuck kale.
	Ugh, who eats that shit?
	I'm one of the idiots that does.
	Durag Myron says, boom!
	Tiger Fitness, baby!
	It's actually, boom!
	Tiger Fitness.
	Boom!
	I've been following for years.
	Thanks, Mark, for always keeping it real.
	Back in the day, you and Mr.
	Piano, RIP. Yes, Richard Piano, man.
	Another guy that was very open about his gear usage.
	Shout out to him as well.
	Rest in peace to him.
	Who else do we got?
	Silent Chaos says, if the OGs, Mark Lobliner and Jason Blaha, leak up and get back in the game like it's 2014, all these new fitness YouTube guys wouldn't stand a chance.
	Hey, man.
	Oh, man.
	That'd be a beef I don't want to relive.
	Um...
	What's he doing nowadays?
	He's still posting videos.
	He still talks shit about everybody?
	No, he's just powerlifting in his living room.
	Somebody sent me a video.
	I had no idea.
	I found out like a month ago he's still on.
	I said, no way.
	And he's like, dude, he's like doing this like powerlifting, but with like not too heavy weights.
	Like it's in his living room.
	It's the weirdest.
	You got to watch it.
	I didn't even realize he still fucking makes content.
	That's fucking wild, bro.
	He does.
	Holy shit.
	Juggernaut fitness is what it used to be called, right?
	So he started as Ice Cream Fitness, and then he became Juggernaut, and then he was Blaha TV, I think.
	There you go.
	Holy shit.
	Talk about a blast in the past.
	He made a video about me a week, just trashing everything I did.
	It was amazing.
	I loved him.
	He was funny.
	Oh, man.
	That fucking guy, Vegan Gaze, tried to talk shit about us, and I'm like, bro, get out of here.
	This is out of your lane.
	Jonathan Hogue, who says, this episode alone just helped me burn 100...
	What?
	What?
	126 calories, intermittent fasting, lowering my caloric intake, 1800 calories a day, smarter food choices, gym five days a week with 30, 60 minutes of cardio and proper hydration and rest helps me burn 1,126 calories.
	I like that.
	Intermittent fasting, lowering my caloric intake to 1,800 per day, smarter food choices, gym five days a week with 30 to 60 minutes of cardio and proper hydration and rest helped me lose 26 pounds in one month.
	Shout out to you, bro.
	That's from Jonathan Hogu.
	I appreciate that, my friend.
	Yes.
	That's all the Rumble ones?
	Yes.
	All right, guys, come on over to Cows Club, CowsClub.tv.
	We're going to go ahead and continue this discussion over there.
	We're going to answer some of your guys' questions.
	We'll get the Zoom golf fired up right now.
	We'll probably be on there for about 30 minutes or so, and we'll try to get as many of your guys' questions as possible.
	So come on over.
	CowsClub.tv, guys, if you're watching on YouTube, please come on over again.
	You'll be able to get your questions answered, and you'll help support us in the meantime as well.
	And, Mark, we're...
	Yeah, we're going to go to locals only here in a second.
	But before we get off YouTube and rumble, Mark, where can people find you?
	What's your social media handles?
	How can they get in touch with you if they want to talk to us?
	Social media, at Mark Loebeliner, M-A-R-C-L-O-B-L-I-N-E-R, YouTube.com slash Tiger Fitness, just like Tiger Fitness.
	And of course, support us.
	Support companies that don't hate you.
	Support companies that love you.
	Support companies that support you.
	And that's TigerFitness.com.
	And do honest business.
	If you buy supplements, like, I'm not asking you to change your supplement buying behavior.
	Just give us a shot and let us provide those for you.
	They got fast shipping and everything else like that, man.
	So go check them out.
	Support them.
	Honest businessman.
	He tells you himself, you don't need the summons, but we're here if you need them.
	And, like, anyone that does that, you already know that they, you know, it's about helping you guys out more than making a buck.
	So, yeah.
	So we're going to go ahead and do a Zoom call right now.
	You guys got what you wanted.
	You guys didn't want fresh on the podcast.
	I'm just kidding.
	Wow.
	Yeah, guys, come on over.
	Come on over.
	Are we starting a Zoom call right now?
	We're still on YouTube?
	All right, guys, we're going to end it right here.
	Let's let them out with the intro or the outro.
	And then do the local switch.
	And then we'll do the local switch.
	Yeah, well, you could do the local switch while doing that.
	Do the outro first for the people.
	All right, guys, we'll see you back here in a bit for after hours.
	Peace!

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