April 3, 2024 - Fresh & Fit
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| Thank you. | |
| What's up, guys? | |
| Welcome to the Freshman Podcast, man. | |
| I'm excited for this one. | |
| We got Mateo in the house and David Benavidez, one of the hottest names in boxers. | |
| Get into it! | |
| Let's go. | |
| Also, CastleClub.tv that has all of our content, as you guys know. | |
| A lot of our videos aren't on YouTube anymore. | |
| They're on Castle Club and on Rumble for obvious reasons. | |
| So make sure to check us out over there, man, if you want the whole backlog of everything. | |
| And what else? | |
| We're doing an event. | |
| Yes. | |
| April 26th here in Miami, guys, in South Beach. | |
| It's going to be a live show with us, other guests as well, a lot of girls too as well. | |
| So stay tuned for it, and we'll see you guys there. | |
| April 26th at what time do the doors open? | |
| 6 p.m. | |
| Doors open at 6pm, guys. | |
| You're going to get a live show, get to meet us in person. | |
| And you guys have been asking us to do more live shows. | |
| So it's going to be our first one that we're doing by ourselves. | |
| So make sure to come out and check it out, man. | |
| Tickets are on sale now. | |
| Very affordable. | |
| $100 for general admission, man. | |
| So we're trying to get as many of you guys in there that we can meet y'all. | |
| So it'll be a good time. | |
| Without further ado, man. | |
| Welcome to Guests of Honor. | |
| David and Mateo. | |
| Yes, we know who you are, brother, but tell the audience who you are. | |
| So, my name is David Benavides. | |
| I'm three-time world champion, 168 pounds, WBC, number one. | |
| Actually, the number one behind Canelo, trying to fight Canelo. | |
| You don't want to give me the opportunity, but we're still doing our thing, man. | |
| We're still... | |
| We're still putting in the work, you know, showing everybody who the best is and, you know, just making my dreams come true day by day. | |
| He's 15-0, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I'm 28-0. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Yeah, with 24 knockouts. | |
| Damn, goddamn! | |
| My bad. | |
| You know, playing. | |
| Don't worry, Canelo's scared. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And then Mateo. | |
| Man, you already know. | |
| We're honored to have us on here today. | |
| David Benavidez has been in Miami for the last couple of months now. | |
| He's made this officially. | |
| He's home. | |
| Him and his family have moved out here. | |
| He's at the boxer gym doing his camp. | |
| You know, we're super proud to have him. | |
| And you know what? | |
| It's a true honor to have a world champion like this. | |
| More than that, we're very good friends. | |
| There's a story behind that. | |
| He'll get into it a little bit. | |
| Of course. | |
| You know, we're getting ready for something big, and he's going to talk about that. | |
| So... | |
| So we linked up a couple of days ago at the car show that you guys had at Boxer Gym. | |
| That was your idea, by the way. | |
| Love cars. | |
| And as well, you trained my guys to network for boxing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So they were asking about how you grew up, your childhood, things like that as well. | |
| Yeah, so basically... | |
| You know, I'm the second oldest. | |
| My brother, Jose Benavidez, he's the one who really started this boxing, so I gotta give, you know, it all up to my brother because he's the one, he's the reason why I'm here. | |
| You know, basically the story is little brother wanted to be like the big brother. | |
| My brother, you know, he was a man back then. | |
| Some stuff happened, but I carried the name ourselves, and now we're here. | |
| We're here fighting the best, three-time world champion. | |
| I was the youngest ever in history to win the Super Middleweight Championship. | |
| The first one I won, I was 20 years old. | |
| The youngest before that was Mike Tyson. | |
| He won his belt at 20 years old. | |
| Thankfully, I've been doing my thing. | |
| I've been working extremely hard, and I actually got my nickname from Mike Tyson himself, the Mexican Monster. | |
| I'm very happy with the way things are going now. | |
| What got you into boxing in the first place? | |
| So like I said, you know, me just trying to be like my older brother. | |
| My father started us, you know, started, my brother's five years older than me. | |
| So my brother started at five years old. | |
| And then when I think at that time, I was like two years old. | |
| So I just, or no, no, my bad. | |
| He started at five, you know, trained when he was seven. | |
| I was about two years old. | |
| So I just wanted to be like my older brother. | |
| I remember my dad used to train us in the garage. | |
| Is this in Phoenix? | |
| This is in Phoenix, Arizona. | |
| Yeah, I'm originally from Phoenix, Arizona. | |
| My dad used to train us in the house, in the garage, and I remember I was at two years old. | |
| I used to go peek in the garage, see my brother train, and my dad one day said, you know, come in. | |
| You know, come in. | |
| Let's get this working. | |
| Wow. | |
| Since then, it's been history, bro. | |
| Was your father a boxer, too? | |
| No, he was not a boxer. | |
| This is the crazy thing about my dad. | |
| My dad, in his head, you know, he was involved with gangs and all that stuff back then. | |
| He used to be from California. | |
| Somebody was going to kill him or whatever. | |
| So he wanted us to be strong. | |
| If that ever happened, that he knew that my brother would take care of me and he knew that I would take care of my family. | |
| So we just boxing, boxing, boxing. | |
| And that's basically how my life has been, man. | |
| Right now I'm 27 years old. | |
| I have 25 years boxing and I loved every single day of it. | |
| Wow. | |
| So take us through, first of all, how'd you guys meet? | |
| So the crazy story is I've known this guy since I was 13 years old because I got invited to train at the Wild Card Gym where Pacquiao was training because my brother was training there. | |
| My brother was a top prospect, best in the world, and then he got invited to train with Manny Pacquiao. | |
| So then I went a year later. | |
| I had stopped boxing for a year, and then when I was 12 years old, I went over there. | |
| I started training, and I remember I went to Bancroft in Hollywood, and I remember seeing this kid. | |
| He used to wear a gray sweater, an Adidas duffel bag, and then I'd always end up seeing him at the gym. | |
| Who the fuck is this guy? | |
| We ended up being cool. | |
| He ended up leaving. | |
| You know, but I always related to the guy even since back then because his father was like my father. | |
| Very tough, strict. | |
| If you fuck up, I'm going to slap you until you get it right. | |
| And his dad was like that until I remember seeing him. | |
| And then when I came, I moved over here to Miami, so I was hitting him up. | |
| You know, I wanted to go to the boxer gym. | |
| We got to talking. | |
| I met him. | |
| And then one day he invited me to dinner. | |
| Me and my wife, him and his wife. | |
| And we were there and we started talking about stuff. | |
| Like, I used to train on wildcars. | |
| I used to train on wildcars too. | |
| I went to Bancroft. | |
| I went to Bancroft too. | |
| I'm like, what the fuck? | |
| This guy looks a little bit familiar now. | |
| Now he's talking and then, you know, we ended up finding out that there was a dude that I seen that used to go to Bancroft. | |
| I'm like, what the fuck? | |
| So it's just crazy how things happen, bro. | |
| Full circle. | |
| I really do feel like God brought me out here for a reason, you know, because now I'm at the best gym in the world. | |
| In the world, you know, he has his, you know, the way his gym is set up, I've been to a lot of gyms everywhere, and I feel like he has the best gym in the world. | |
| And I'm doing my thing, you know, I'm the best in the world too, so now we come together, and now we can combine both our forces and go tackle our dreams, you know, together. | |
| So what made you say, you know what, I gotta get out to Miami? | |
| Were you in Arizona before? | |
| I know you're from Phoenix. | |
| So me, I've been moving around a lot. | |
| With me, I've never been that type of individual that wants to stay in one place. | |
| I feel like the world is big enough where you have to travel. | |
| You know, you can't just stay in one place. | |
| I originally from Phoenix, I moved to North Hollywood, then I moved to Long Beach. | |
| Then I moved back to Phoenix, then I moved to Las Vegas, then I moved to Oregon, and then I moved to Seattle, and now I'm in Miami. | |
| Oregon? | |
| What were you doing out there? | |
| My buddy lived over here. | |
| He's one of the top fitness trainers, a strength and conditioning trainer. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then I ended up moving to Seattle. | |
| I met my wife there. | |
| We bought a house. | |
| You know, we still have the house, and now we're over here because... | |
| Seattle's a little bit depressing, bro. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It rains a lot, man. | |
| It rains a lot. | |
| It's dark as fuck. | |
| So, you know, I thought, you know what? | |
| Let's just go to Miami. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Right now, I'm financially stable enough to, you know, buy multiple properties. | |
| And I thought, you know what? | |
| I feel like I got a cousin out here, too, that he lives here. | |
| So he's a mutual person, lives here. | |
| So I thought, I might as well just come over here. | |
| I've always wanted to live in Miami. | |
| I'm going to come give it a, see how it is. | |
| Now I don't want to leave. | |
| It's a good place. | |
| You mentioned buying properties and investing. | |
| How important is it for athletes to, you know, invest in themselves while they're earning the money so that they can create a future? | |
| I feel like it's very important because right now, especially for me, I'm just trying to buy, every fight I'm trying to buy a property, renting them out, making income where I don't have to do nothing. | |
| You know, because of boxing life, bro, to be honest, it's not a long life. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I've been fortunate enough to... | |
| I've been professional since I was 16 years old. | |
| I got 10 years, probably 11 years right now. | |
| And I made a lot of money. | |
| I've spent a lot of money. | |
| Buying cars, buying fucking... | |
| You know, spending money on trips and all that. | |
| All that stuff is cool. | |
| I'm not saying nothing about it. | |
| But when the money's not coming back in, you know, you got to look at something like, well, I need to make money somehow because boxing is not going to last our whole lives. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So... | |
| In the property, you never lose. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I bought my house in Seattle for $800,000. | |
| Now it's worth $1.5 million. | |
| Nice. | |
| In two years. | |
| Nice. | |
| So now we're just buying property. | |
| This fight, I'm going to buy another property, too. | |
| So just buying as much property as I can. | |
| Are you buying single-family homes, duplexes, triplexes? | |
| I was buying... | |
| Condo, single-family home, but now we're looking into the duplex. | |
| I'm actually looking at the quadplexes now. | |
| Those are the ones where you make the most money at. | |
| That's where I've been very fortunate enough. | |
| I'm getting into that, but I want to get a restaurant. | |
| Now, I just want to make my dreams come true. | |
| I want a restaurant, and now that I'm in the position to actually make that happen, then that's the way we're going towards it. | |
| Yeah, yeah, a restaurant. | |
| Would you open it up here in Miami or where would you? | |
| Yeah, I think so. | |
| And Miami, Seattle. | |
| The beautiful thing about me being in so much places, I know so much people everywhere. | |
| I can go to Miami, Seattle, Phoenix, Vegas, everywhere. | |
| I know a lot of people everywhere and, you know, I think everything will be successful everywhere I've been. | |
| Miami's the best, though. | |
| Do it here. | |
| Yeah, it's kind of expensive here, though. | |
| Yeah, it's kind of expensive. | |
| Yeah, you can charge more. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, as a fighter, right, everyone wants to know the routine of a fighter. | |
| How do they train? | |
| What's the regimen? | |
| So, Matteo and David, how can you speak to this for the audience? | |
| So, there's two different types of training. | |
| There's a regular training just to get in shape. | |
| Or there's a world-class training camp, a championship training camp. | |
| And I can tell you all about that. | |
| A championship training camp is me, how I get ready, how I'm doing it right now. | |
| I get ready for three months. | |
| I run in the morning. | |
| I train in the afternoon. | |
| Then I do conditioning and weight training at night. | |
| That's every day for 11, 12 weeks. | |
| We spar Monday, Wednesday, Friday. | |
| We go hard every day, every single day, because at this level that I'm fighting at right now, You can't take any day off because there's killers. | |
| There's killers trying to take your spot. | |
| There's killers trying to take those belts. | |
| And for me, I'm not going to go out like that. | |
| I'm not going to put everything into my training camp. | |
| I'm not going to not put everything into my training camp because this is my passion. | |
| At the end of the day, I feel like... | |
| You have to put everything into your passion to see your dreams come true. | |
| And that's why I feel like I've been so successful. | |
| You know, I've had a lot of turmoils in my career. | |
| I've had a lot of stuff happen to me. | |
| I've been up and down, up and down, but I've never gave up on myself. | |
| And that's why I'm here, where I'm at today. | |
| You know, nobody expected me to be here. | |
| And I'm still here, and it's for a reason, because I love what I do, and I'm never going to give up on myself. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you mentioned that it takes you about 90 days if you've got a fight coming to get in shape. | |
| And you said you run in the morning. | |
| How many miles are you? | |
| So we run like four miles, five miles. | |
| Honestly, it's not that it takes me 90 days to get in shape. | |
| I train more because I want to make sure everything is... | |
| Clean and polished by the time I get in the ring. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| You can do a training camp in six weeks, five weeks. | |
| But are you going to be at your best? | |
| Gotcha. | |
| That's what I'm saying at this level. | |
| You don't want to leave no room for error. | |
| And you got to make sure you work 100% on everything. | |
| By the time you get in that fight, there shouldn't be no room for no mistakes. | |
| Because this is how I see it. | |
| It's a life or death. | |
| Not literally, but if I lose... | |
| My fucking career dies. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I take this very, very serious, bro. | |
| And I feel like every fighter should. | |
| They should take it extremely serious. | |
| And that's let me be successful like I am. | |
| And now I'm at the doorstep with something big. | |
| I'm fighting for another title at another weight class. | |
| So by the time this fight is done, I'm going to have four of those. | |
| And then we're still trying to look for that Canelo fight. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Canelo is all that bullshit, like, oh, he needs to be respectful. | |
| Listen, I'm not going to bow my knee to nobody because I've earned my shot for the belts. | |
| The only reason this fight isn't happening is because he wants fucking $150, $200 million, which is absurd. | |
| Not even the promotion company makes money like that. | |
| So that's just basically telling me that he's scared. | |
| Why is he doing this? | |
| Because he's that scared of you? | |
| That's a monster? | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| The thing about this, I try not to say much because if I say I'm scared, if I say he's scared, people say I'm a hater. | |
| Oh, what have you proved? | |
| This and that. | |
| I've got three belts. | |
| I'm the number one contender. | |
| I don't need to prove shit. | |
| I beat the people that tell me to beat so you can fight for the title. | |
| And I've done that over and over again. | |
| I've been in the mandatory for three years. | |
| That never happens. | |
| That literally has never happened. | |
| Can you explain to the audience what the mandatory is? | |
| So the mandatory is... | |
| So when you're waiting in line, there's a ranking list. | |
| One to ten. | |
| Once you reach that number one shot, that number one spot, you have to fight for the title. | |
| That's always how it's been. | |
| I've been beating the top guys. | |
| I think I beat the top four. | |
| From three, from four, three, two, and one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I beat him back to back and I still haven't got a chance, you know. | |
| But I feel like Canelo right now, he's a money man right now. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| In boxing, each of these is 3%. | |
| So what I make, 3%. | |
| You know, even if you're not the champion, the sanction fee is 3%. | |
| So imagine if Canelo doesn't want to fight me. | |
| sanctioned no i don't want to fight him his three percent off of his 40 million that's a lot of money it's not it's not what i it's not the same as me the three percent they're getting from me so i feel like that's the only reason why he's in the driver's scene that's the reason why they listen to him but at the end of the day man like come on we got i just want to give the best fight the best fights to the fans boxing is really political when it comes to that can you Can you explain? | |
| Because a lot of people watch MMA and they think, oh, well, isn't boxing similar when it comes to picking fights and setting things up, etc.? | |
| What's the main difference between the two when it comes to setting up fights? | |
| Because for a lot of people, it's like, okay, it's a no-brainer. | |
| Why aren't they fighting? | |
| But it's politics involved. | |
| So the one thing about it is it's politics and it's promotion companies. | |
| You see the UFC. I have a lot of respect for the UFC, by the way. | |
| I love how they run everything they're doing. | |
| The best fight's the best. | |
| They make fucking amazing events. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Boxing, you got PBC, you got Dazzin, you got Golden Boy, and now you got the Saudis. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| It's four different... | |
| So, like... | |
| The promotion companies, they don't want to share the pot. | |
| Okay. | |
| Imagine if we make a hundred million dollars or whatever, you gotta split it. | |
| You know, it's 50-50. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, it does make sense sometimes, but at the end of the day, they want to keep it within themselves. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| And now it's getting a little bit better where the fighters come together and make the fights happen. | |
| But if a fighter doesn't want to happen, like a fighter doesn't want to make the fight happen like Canelo, there's really nothing nobody could do about it. | |
| Because Canelo's with my promotion company. | |
| Oh. | |
| He had signed a contract that he was going to have three fights. | |
| First, what was it? | |
| It was... | |
| Charlo. | |
| Caleb Plant? | |
| Caleb Plant. | |
| Charlo, and then I was supposed to be the third one. | |
| It just never happened. | |
| It just never happened. | |
| And what the people, they tell me, like, bro, we can't force this guy to fight you. | |
| Like, there's really nothing. | |
| If he doesn't want to fight you, there's nothing we can do. | |
| So I'm in the position right now, but I'm not really too bummed out about it. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I'm going to just keep doing what I'm doing. | |
| At the end of the day, I'm not going nowhere. | |
| I'm going to stay here. | |
| If anything, when I keep winning and keep beating these guys impressively, the fight's going to be even bigger when it happens. | |
| So... | |
| If the Canelo fight doesn't happen, would you consider moving up in a weight class? | |
| I am moving up in weight class. | |
| This next fight, I'm moving up to weight class. | |
| Before I say anything about the next fight, it's going to be fucking big. | |
| Me and Gervonta Davis are fighting in a card together. | |
| It's probably going to be the biggest card of the year. | |
| I don't know when it's going to be. | |
| Either June 15th or June 22nd. | |
| I don't know where yet, but it's going to be big. | |
| And then what did you ask me? | |
| So who would you consider fighting? | |
| Oh, so I'm going up in weight class. | |
| So I'm fighting for another belt. | |
| And that's going to put me in the number one spot to fight the winner. | |
| Better be it than people. | |
| So like I tell a lot of people, bro, like... | |
| When I was growing up and I had this dream, my dream was never, oh, I'm going to fight Canelo, I'm going to be done. | |
| It was never that. | |
| My dream was being the best and being the greatest in my generation. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We should have a pole. | |
| Is he scared of your reach? | |
| Because you're a tall guy. | |
| You're not short. | |
| You're over six foot. | |
| Is he scared of your reach? | |
| Is it because your fighting style counter is his? | |
| Is it like... | |
| I think it's just that he knows I'm a dog, bro. | |
| He knows it. | |
| He sees it in my eyes that I want greatness. | |
| They talk about the money. | |
| I don't give a fuck about the money, bro. | |
| I've been making a lot of money since I was young. | |
| It's not that. | |
| It's about becoming undisputed super middleweight champion of the world. | |
| And I'm working on that. | |
| This guy sees me. | |
| I've barely started my training camp, but I've already been training for two months. | |
| Nobody does that. | |
| I'm here. | |
| I'm focused. | |
| I know what I want. | |
| And I know what I want to accomplish. | |
| And I got my son, too. | |
| I want to show him that greatness can be achieved if you really dedicate yourself. | |
| There should be a poll for these promotion companies where the audience says, hey, we want this fight to happen. | |
| And the poll dictates who fights. | |
| Well, that's been happening. | |
| Yeah, that's been happening. | |
| In boxing, in the world of boxing, that's the only thing they're talking about right now. | |
| The thing is, somebody like David right now, he's a threat in boxing. | |
| So for Canelo, he's taking a risk going up against somebody like him. | |
| At the age of 27, we've been working in the gym, and he's cracking harder than most boys in that weight division that have been there for a long time, even all the way up to heavyweight. | |
| So when you have somebody like that that's a threat, that's not worried about the money, and that's willing to actually get in there and put a performance on for the people, that just shows and proves that the man is willing to do whatever it takes because of the love of the sport for his people, for his family, and to build a legacy. | |
| That's what it really comes down to. | |
| And then to be honest with you, when I heard that number, 150, 200 million, bro, not even Mayweather and Pacquiao got the... | |
| What that sounds like to me is he's getting ready for retirement. | |
| That's what it sounds like to me. | |
| He knows it. | |
| Canelo, he's getting ready to retire with that. | |
| He knows it, bro. | |
| I'm not coming to play, bro, and I'm not going to lay down for nobody. | |
| That's why he's doing interviews saying like all... | |
| I don't know if you guys are aware of it, but he gave the opportunity to Jaime Munguia. | |
| Jaime Munguia is only his second fight at super middleweight. | |
| He hasn't done nothing. | |
| I've been here fucking... | |
| I've been the gatekeeper, bro, fucking waiting for that opportunity. | |
| And then the excuse was to Canelo that why he gave up Jaime Mungu the opportunity. | |
| He's like, oh, because he's been really respectful. | |
| Get the fuck out of here, bro. | |
| Yo. | |
| And he said he don't want to fight any other Mexicans. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I was going to ask that next. | |
| If y'all did a fight in Mexico City or something, they'll go crazy. | |
| So he did a press conference saying he was going to fight three more years. | |
| Fire. | |
| I don't know what he said. | |
| And then he said, I'm not fighting a Mexican. | |
| What does he do? | |
| First thing he does is fight. | |
| He's fighting a Mexican. | |
| So I don't understand what this guy is saying, bro. | |
| Like, honestly, I feel like he's just losing a lot of respect from his people, the boxing world. | |
| But it is what it is, you know what I mean? | |
| I just got to keep working and keep fighting for my spot. | |
| Like I said, I'm not going nowhere. | |
| I love this shit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Actually, we got a video to play. | |
| You guys can see what the camp is kind of looking like. | |
| Get a little bit inside. | |
| Yeah, if I was Canelo, I'd be scared too. | |
| And recently, you met Jake Paul at Boxer Gym as well, right? | |
| Yeah, he came through to say, what's up? | |
| I've known Jake Paul for a while. | |
| We message each other and stuff. | |
| And I went to his fight in Phoenix when he was fighting Anderson Silva. | |
| Him, he was really cool. | |
| His brother was really cool. | |
| His mother was really cool. | |
| So I have a lot of respect for them. | |
| And then he pulled up to the gym. | |
| Mateo's the one that actually set that up. | |
| That's dope. | |
| So it was cool seeing him. | |
| You know, respect for all his people, Andrew, all them people over there. | |
| But I have a lot of respect for them. | |
| And I'm just happy to be around these type of people. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's play it. | |
| Yeah, let's play the video real quick, and then I got a question after. | |
| Yeah, you can play it. | |
| Just put the music. | |
| It's fine, bro. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| Is it not sure? | |
| Oh, hold on. | |
| We're going to mute the tape. | |
| We got you guys. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Look at that Miami Skyline, man. | |
| Beautiful. | |
| Motivated. | |
| It gives me a clear sense of mind. | |
| Makes me realize that my dreams are actually really close. | |
| And just enjoying what God put on this earth for us, man. | |
| What it's about. | |
| - There's a lot of things and culture out here. - That's why he's my favorite fighter. | |
| Let's go! | |
| Hey, David's looking sharp. | |
| My man's a monster. | |
| Come on, he's looking good, baby. | |
| He's so long, fat, fluid, having fun, good defense. | |
| Looking good, man, for real. | |
| It's the new Miami Pops in Fury. | |
| It's a fucking amazing turnout, buddy. | |
| We out here. | |
| 3.05, baby. | |
| Our lifestyle we like to show. | |
| We like to box. | |
| We like to train hard. | |
| We like to enjoy our cars, all the stupid cars of life and luck. | |
| Come on, come on. | |
| Focus, focus. | |
| Always come here ready to work, good spirits, good mindset, good mentality. | |
| He has all the tools to success. | |
| - Cool it up, bitch, my whole team do the same. | |
| Don't you forget who created the game. | |
| - He's a college boy, right? | |
| You know, it's crazy. | |
| There you go. | |
| We're moving. | |
| - Every day's a different day. | |
| Putting it on the line, working as much as you can, every single day. | |
| If you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards. | |
| Boom. | |
| Fire. | |
| You go, Bills. | |
| Uh, yeah. | |
| No, I mean, obviously, uh, you know, you came to Miami to work. | |
| A lot of people come here to party and just hang out and shit. | |
| Like, you're here training every single day, going hard in the paint, so... | |
| That's motivating. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So what do you think, bro? | |
| Mike Tyson, Jake Paul. | |
| To be honest with you, I'm going to tell you how it is. | |
| Jake Paul, I have a lot of respect for Jake Paul because he's an influencer. | |
| He started from Disney and worked his way up. | |
| But when I see his training videos, bro, he's actually training like a professional boxer. | |
| He is a professional boxer, but he's training like he really wants it. | |
| A man that trains like that is dangerous because he has a dream to come true. | |
| And only a dream that he answers to himself that he has to make it come true. | |
| So... | |
| It's going to be a tough fight. | |
| You know, Mike Tyson is older, but don't get it fucked up. | |
| Mike Tyson is still Mike Tyson. | |
| The thing that I like about this fight is that Mike Tyson, he's going to get a fucking bag for this fight. | |
| Of course. | |
| He's going to get a lot of money, bro. | |
| What are you thinking? | |
| I don't want to say. | |
| You don't want to say it? | |
| No, I feel like the both men have to be sharp. | |
| If Jake don't come prepared... | |
| You know, it's going to be a tough fight for him. | |
| If Mike don't come prepared, it's going to be a tough fight for him. | |
| Jake has been improving every single fight, but Mike Tyson is still Mike Tyson. | |
| You know, I'm still going to go. | |
| I'm going to be there in support, but, you know, whatever happens, happens. | |
| I feel like when... | |
| I know a lot of people in boxing always ask me, who do you think is going to win? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I just hope it's a good fight. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So, I'm happy that Mike Tyson is able to still make that money from the fight. | |
| I was shocked he took it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Mike Tyson is a dog. | |
| Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson. | |
| That's the thing about it. | |
| But, that's what I'm saying. | |
| If Mike thinks he can fight, then... | |
| What do you think, Mateo? | |
| You gotta think about it like this, you know, Jake's a smart businessman, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, in order to get somebody like Mike Tyson, you know, to fight against, if you think about it, and let's just say I drop a name right now, Shakur Stevenson. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do you know who that is? | |
| I've seen his name before. | |
| Do you know who that is? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| No, so to the average person, you don't know who that is. | |
| But if you go to India, into some bad area or ghetto, and you say Mike Tyson, they're going to say, I know that person. | |
| So think about the planet. | |
| I see what you mean. | |
| You see what Jake's doing? | |
| Yeah. | |
| He's setting it up in a way that, you know, he obviously got the money or he got the investors to be able to put this together correctly and maximize as much as possible because the name is the draw card. | |
| And then by having Netflix involved to do the fight rather than any other platform that's going on... | |
| Yeah, I was gonna ask you guys about that. | |
| That's a big deal, you know what I mean? | |
| Are any, cause like, you mentioned, I think there were four, Daz and Goldenboy, what was the other two again? | |
| PBC. PBC and then? | |
| And the Saudis, I don't know what they did. | |
| Oh yeah, the Saudis. | |
| Oh yes, yes, yes. | |
| Like they're creating a whole boxing infrastructure over there, you're right. | |
| To try to like compete with Dubai's like entertainment place. | |
| Have you ever, like I've never seen this before, Netflix getting involved with boxing like this. | |
| Never, I think it's just a new, it's a new, it's a new thing now. | |
| Because even PBC is what Amazon. | |
| So, I mean, these people, they have a lot of people that, you know, that tunes into their stuff, like around the world, you know, Amazon and Netflix. | |
| So, I think that's just going to be overall bigger and better for this point. | |
| Do you think streaming is the future, like pay-per-views are done now? | |
| Yeah, I think so. | |
| And then the also thing that I like about these deals that other people aren't really considering is that it's going to be harder to steal the pay-per-views. | |
| Because if you think about it, Netflix and Amazon, they don't want to get their money taken from them. | |
| They already have a secure infrastructure. | |
| You have to have a membership to be able to even watch it so it's a secure. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So now that's even better for the fighters, you know? | |
| So, and there's, bro, there's a lot of, I fought pay-per-view fights and most of them get stolen by the streams. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And every fighter, every pay-per-view counts because that's how you get your money. | |
| Mateo, if I remember correctly, wasn't that one of your ideas for Netflix? | |
| It was, yeah. | |
| Remember, I spoke to you about it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, they're smart, bro. | |
| Like, in the end of the day, you know, every single person that's around right now, you got Netflix on your phone, you got Netflix in your house. | |
| So they're very smart on how they've organized it and orchestrated it to this way because boxing was dependent on HBO, Showtime, ESPN, and they're all diving now. | |
| So now they're working on Amazon Prime and now they're working on Netflix, which are the two biggest platforms in the world, apart from YouTube. | |
| But Streaming is the future, man. | |
| It's crazy how conventional cable television is pretty much gone. | |
| I mean, I remember you'd have to pay for the pay-per-view and watch, whether it was wrestling or boxing or whatever, maybe you had to pay for the pay-per-view. | |
| Now it's like... | |
| You know, you just stream it. | |
| That's what it is. | |
| From your phone. | |
| Yeah, people don't watch TV anymore, man. | |
| It's just, that's what it's come down to. | |
| So, we had one of the guys you were training, actually, on CEO Network, my boy Peter. | |
| He had a question for you. | |
| He said, how many amateur fights did you have before you turned pro? | |
| To be honest with you, that's where it gets funny for me, because I always never... | |
| The way I was, bro, I was always a bigger kid. | |
| I was always a fat kid. | |
| I never made weight. | |
| So I only had 15 amateur fights. | |
| My dad used to be mad, super mad, because we used to go to the tournaments. | |
| I'd be overweight. | |
| There'd be nobody in my weight class, so that's why I would never fight. | |
| But I was always in the gym working extremely hard. | |
| When I got to, like, um... | |
| I'm going to tell you a little story of how it happened, too. | |
| My parents... | |
| They divorced when I was like 7 years old and then my dad and my brother ended up taking off to California when I was like 10 to train with Freddie Roach. | |
| So imagine I had trained my whole life up to this point so I had a whole time off. | |
| Bro, I went from 160 all the way to 260. | |
| Damn. | |
| Eating everything, eating everything. | |
| And I remember clearly, really vividly, I looked at myself in the mirror before I went to school one day and I was just so fucking chubby, bro. | |
| My face is like this. | |
| And I'm like, fuck. | |
| I don't even know who the fuck I am no more. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I feel like I'm going to hit a point where I do something about my weight and I lose it or I just keep eating and I'll probably never come back from that. | |
| I'm probably just never going to lose weight. | |
| I'm going to be big and fat and all that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I told my mom, like, you know what? | |
| It's time for me to go to California. | |
| Like, I want to go out there to train. | |
| And my mom understood, you know, because that's a big thing, too. | |
| Like, obesity and stuff, and you don't work out, bro. | |
| If you just leave it unattended, bro, you get to a point where there's no return. | |
| Would you say your environment changed a lot, too, helped with that process? | |
| Like, changing your environment? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, because my mom, she wasn't, she wasn't, uh, didn't work out or nothing. | |
| Like, that was just school. | |
| And if you're done with school, that's it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But, you know, I mean, I got to the point, and then I went to California. | |
| That's when I met this guy. | |
| And then this guy used to see me put in work, too. | |
| I was a big, fat guy, red sweater. | |
| I remember... | |
| So my brother was a top, top. | |
| He was a top amateur. | |
| You know, everybody knew him. | |
| Freddie Roach asked him to stay there so he could train him. | |
| Freddie Roach... | |
| Does your brother still fight now, or does he manage you? | |
| Yeah, he still fights. | |
| He fights in my cards. | |
| Okay. | |
| We'll get to that, too. | |
| He... | |
| My dad and my brother used to tell everybody at the gym, like, you think my son Jose is good? | |
| Wait till you see my other son David. | |
| I get to Cali and I'm a fucking fat bitch. | |
| Who the fuck is this? | |
| That's David. | |
| That's the David you were telling me about? | |
| Aw, come on. | |
| And then that shit, like, I would turn red, bro. | |
| I'm like, aw, yeah. | |
| I'm like, wait till you guys fucking see me spar. | |
| The first day of sparring, I spar some big fucking, big buff dude. | |
| Beat the fuck out of him. | |
| Easy. | |
| And people, then that's when people start paying attention. | |
| Then I started sparring. | |
| I was 14 years old at this time, by the way. | |
| 14? | |
| 14. | |
| I started sparring Lateef Coyote, Cruiserweight Champion. | |
| Fucking put in work with him, throw down with him. | |
| Kid Chocolate, the middleweight champion of the world, throw down with him. | |
| Kelly Pavlik is an amazing middleweight. | |
| He actually beat Jermaine Taylor. | |
| I remember him. | |
| Knocked him out nasty. | |
| Fucking had great work with him. | |
| And then after that, I got invited to Big Bear, 15 years old. | |
| Started sparring with Gennady Golovkin. | |
| That's before he even made his pro debut. | |
| We had such great fucking sparring sessions, me and that guy. | |
| And I give it up to Gennady Golovkin because when I think about role models, that's who I want to be. | |
| He's very nice to his people, very helpful. | |
| He wasn't cocky at all, but that motherfucker was a killer. | |
| He was a fucking killer, bro. | |
| You guys know Gennady Golovkin? | |
| I've heard the name before, yeah. | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| Fucking, he was an animal. | |
| Animal in the ring, but outside the ring, the nicest person. | |
| So, this guy, bro, I started sparring him. | |
| Before he even made his U.S. debut, he was from Kazakhstan. | |
| This guy is a monster. | |
| If you guys knew boxing, you'd understand the severity of who Golovkin was. | |
| Fucking monster, bro. | |
| And then I ended up being his main sparring partner. | |
| So from 16 to 19 years old, I was working with that guy. | |
| Working, working. | |
| Every sparring session me and him had were real fights. | |
| They weren't sparring sessions. | |
| They were real fights. | |
| So by the time I ended up figuring this guy out, everybody else became easy. | |
| And that's what I'm saying. | |
| I'm very grateful for Golovkin because he himself put me on a different level. | |
| Well, I can tell just how you meet people, interact. | |
| You're very humble, very kind. | |
| Even in the elevator, you're like, hey, is that your kids? | |
| I have kids too as well. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Very social. | |
| I think that's very good, bro. | |
| I just feel like, bro, sometimes some people try to act tough because they're really scared. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I feel like I get to live the best of both worlds. | |
| I get to be very friendly. | |
| I get to be very kind. | |
| But if you fuck around with me, I'm going to fuck you up. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| That's how I should be, bro. | |
| I'm not out here trying to act tough. | |
| I'm actually trying to help my people. | |
| There's some people, bro, that are just really big-headed. | |
| There's a lot of ego. | |
| Sometimes when you take ego out of the situation, you get to live your life more comfortably. | |
| You get to make better decisions. | |
| Well said. | |
| How important is it to spar often? | |
| I mean, obviously that's like the cornerstone of boxing, but I think people kind of underrate how important that is versus just hitting mitts. | |
| No, sparring is not only hitting, it's catching the timing, working footwork. | |
| There's a whole science to it, bro. | |
| And then also, too, you start to, in sparring, You feel that. | |
| And it's something different about when you're a top level fighter. | |
| Like with me, you go in there, you let that animal out. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| And, you know, you got to practice that. | |
| You got to practice being that killer. | |
| You got to practice fucking not caring about people and beating the shit out of them. | |
| Because how I say it, it's either they get me or I get them. | |
| You know, and I'm never going to let them get me. | |
| You know, they're always going to be the ones getting taken out. | |
| So it's always just practicing that, you know, just on... | |
| Sometimes you don't even got to work hard, but just, you know, practicing the shots, head movement, defense. | |
| There's a lot of stuff that goes into it. | |
| You know, it's really technical. | |
| I was going to ask you, so you said you spar like every day, right? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I spar three times a day. | |
| Wednesday, Wednesday, Friday. | |
| Monday, Wednesday, Friday. | |
| Okay, so... | |
| Like our schedule. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you spar, and then Tuesdays and Thursdays, you're doing, like, lifting weights or running? | |
| So, I'm training boxing throughout the whole week, and then, yeah, it's Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays, we do strained and conditioning. | |
| Because also, too, boxing and training takes a toll on the body. | |
| Strained and conditioning, shout out to Earl, what's his last name? | |
| Earl Wolf. | |
| Earl Wolf, he's a fucking beast. | |
| He used to play in the NFL. Mm-hmm. | |
| He gets my body right, bro. | |
| My legs, everything. | |
| That guy is a beast at everything. | |
| And also, shout out to Memo Heredia. | |
| Shout out to all my people who have been training me for a long, long time. | |
| And it takes a toll out of your body. | |
| And as time goes by, you know, I have 25 years boxing. | |
| Now it's not really more about putting in the work as hard. | |
| It's about letting your body recover. | |
| So, when you're sparring, like, is it like... | |
| You're just free fighting or is it like, okay, I'm going to work on the hook here. | |
| I'm going to work on the jab. | |
| We're going to work on this. | |
| It depends on the person. | |
| It depends how I feel. | |
| It depends how hard the sparring is. | |
| I was going to ask, how often are you hard sparring? | |
| Even today, you got some cuts from sparring? | |
| Yeah, there's cuts from sparring. | |
| Some good shit. | |
| At the end of the day, bro, if you're scared of getting hit, getting marks on your face, this shit is not for you, brother. | |
| I wear this shit as a fucking, as a prize, man. | |
| I love what I do. | |
| I love people to see me, but damn, that guy's fucking, he really goes in. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So this is just the price you have to pay sometimes. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Sometimes you be sore as fuck, you can't go, but you tell yourself, you know, I'm not going to give up. | |
| It's a sacrifice, man. | |
| Even in the sparring and in the training, people don't realize the fight is the easy part. | |
| It's staying consistent mentally plus physically throughout that camp time that he was explaining, that 11 weeks. | |
| And then you've got to try and avoid injuries at the same time. | |
| And that's why he's saying as you get to that higher standard, recovery is so important. | |
| And at the same time, you don't know what you're up against in sparring. | |
| It could be light sparring, it could be heavy sparring. | |
| I was gonna ask, how often are you hard sparring? | |
| When I get towards the end, like seven, eight weeks, it's all hard. | |
| It's all hard. | |
| It's all hard. | |
| It just depends if I'm friends with the guy or whatever. | |
| You see some of the best shots inspiring. | |
| A lot of fighters can actually practice things that you wouldn't necessarily do in the fight. | |
| You can get creative inside the ring. | |
| It's like getting a painting. | |
| Before it goes out, you can actually practice on it and then do the final copy. | |
| So, is there danger in sparring? | |
| Because, for example, there was a fight between, I think it was Tank and Ryan Garcia. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And someone said there was a leak with Ryan's injury that he was seen in sparring with the injury. | |
| And they told, well, I don't know if it's true, Tank, about that injury. | |
| Is that a real thing in sparring? | |
| Yeah, the thing, yeah, bro. | |
| Sometimes you get hit with shots and, you know, like, even, like, I got a little cut, you know, I'm getting cut here. | |
| At the end of the day, it's still a fight. | |
| But at the end of the day, they're still trying to knock you off. | |
| Sometimes, like Ryan, in his case, he said he got hit with a body shirt. | |
| I don't know what it was. | |
| His ribs were split or something. | |
| That does happen. | |
| Hand injuries, body injuries. | |
| Sometimes you get hit to the body and you feel like this shit's broken, but it's not. | |
| It's just bruised. | |
| So it's just different stuff, and that's where recovery comes in place. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| But there's been times, bro, where I fucking rolled my ankle running bad. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| There's been a couple times, actually. | |
| Hand injuries, this and that, but... | |
| If it's really up to the training camp and the trainers, if they think you can't go on with the show, then cancel it. | |
| If there's still enough time where you can recover and then go into the fight, then it's really up to the team and the manager. | |
| Okay, I got to know, bro. | |
| What is going on with Ryan Garcia? | |
| Is he okay? | |
| Is he okay, bro? | |
| The Bohemian Grove and everything else like that. | |
| Yeah, bro, what's going on with that guy, man? | |
| To be honest with you, Ryan Garcia, I know him personally... | |
| I feel like it's just promotion, bro. | |
| I feel like it's just promotion. | |
| I don't feel like he's doing it the right way, though, because he's talking about some topics that are really crazy, you know what I mean? | |
| Maybe in his head he's trying to bring light to those situations, and I don't know what he's doing, but when the fight happens... | |
| I think that shit's going to sell a lot. | |
| We can see. | |
| Because people are going to be like, is Ryan good? | |
| Is he not good? | |
| But I feel like it's all calculated from him. | |
| Marketing. | |
| It's all marketing. | |
| It's all marketing. | |
| And me, personally, I don't think that's doing it the right way. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's other ways to go about it, right? | |
| I've never seen anyone kind of go that route of, you know, I was at the Bohemian Grove. | |
| He doesn't see it. | |
| Yeah, it's a first. | |
| I ain't gonna lie. | |
| That's crazy, though, bro. | |
| Yeah, he's been going wild on Twitter. | |
| But you know what? | |
| I feel like with him, he knows how to keep his name in the headlines. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| I heard him on Clubhouse. | |
| He's saying some wild shit. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I'm like, I guess. | |
| I mean, I guess. | |
| He's probably gonna make a bag, so I don't know. | |
| Definitely unorthodox. | |
| Yeah, I can read some of these chats real quick. | |
| We got here... | |
| Mr. | |
| Ransom. | |
| David Benavidez on Fresh and Fit. | |
| This is going to be a good one. | |
| Is he staying for the after hours? | |
| No. | |
| He's the wife of the kids, guys. | |
| Also, Canelo is a pussy for ducking the fight. | |
| Hey, man. | |
| He's scared, bro. | |
| We have here, Jack. | |
| David, would you ever move up to 175 after beating Canelo? | |
| Do you think Bival or Biter Viv would be great fights? | |
| Definitely killing it with the guest 2024. | |
| Yeah, so this fight right now that I'm going to fight at 175 is fighting for the interim belt. | |
| It's going to put me in position to fight for the winner of Berger, Bia, and Bivol. | |
| And like I said, bro, I don't think that fight with Canelo is going to happen. | |
| So I got to move on with my career. | |
| And these guys, the ones at 175, they're some killers. | |
| So now my mind is 100% set on them, focus on them, and we'll see what happens. | |
| I've worked with Bivol before. | |
| We have some good sparrings with him. | |
| So I heard. | |
| It's going to be good. | |
| But at the end of the day, what I want to tell people is sometimes these fights or whatever it might be going in your life, if it sounds scary, the leap forward, it might seem scary. | |
| But that's why you have to do it. | |
| Because the greatness and what's going to be achieved on the other side is much more greater than you being scared. | |
| Damn. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| It's powerful. | |
| What else do we got here? | |
| Fresh and Fit attorney goes, anytime a fat goblin hobbit chick introduces herself on After Hours, Chris and Moe put, I'm an optimist, bro. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Jay's Todd goes, David, can you name what you think is one of Gervonta's greatest weaknesses in the ring? | |
| Gervonta's. | |
| That's hard, bro. | |
| Gervonta is the best in the world for a reason. | |
| I don't know, to be honest with you. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think he's a complete fighter. | |
| Who was your toughest fight? | |
| My toughest fight? | |
| There's been a couple of them, bro. | |
| Anthony Durrell was tough because he was really seasoned. | |
| I fought him when I was 22 years old. | |
| Okay, my toughest fight is when I fought for the world champion. | |
| I'm going to give you the whole rundown of the story before that happened. | |
| So I get called. | |
| I'm fighting through the ranks. | |
| I'm number two, number three. | |
| Then somebody was supposed to fight, but then that fight got canceled, and then they put me in there for the world title fight. | |
| So I'm in Big Bear. | |
| I'm fucking working in Extreme Yord. | |
| Two weeks before the fight, I get a call. | |
| My uncle dies. | |
| So that fucked me up mentally in my head. | |
| It was hard to go through that, bro. | |
| But in my head, I'm thinking, what if he wouldn't want me to stop? | |
| He would want me to keep going. | |
| The week of that fight, I swear to God to you, bro, I had a fucking... | |
| I'm making weight. | |
| I'm laying down. | |
| I have a nightmare where I have a demon putting a pillow over my face and trying to kill me. | |
| Or he was choking me. | |
| And I wake up with a pillow on my face like that. | |
| So I was like, what the fuck, bro? | |
| And then I get the worst flu I've ever had. | |
| Flu, cold, food, poison. | |
| I don't know what it was. | |
| So it was extremely hard for me, bro. | |
| It was even hard for me to move. | |
| We made weight. | |
| We hydrated. | |
| And I still fought. | |
| And I still won the belt. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So that was probably the toughest. | |
| It's not because of... | |
| The fighter, but because of everything I went through. | |
| I mean, it was my uncle, you know what I mean? | |
| I love my uncle, my mother's brother. | |
| And that shit just alone, bro, you're trying to prepare for the biggest fight of your life. | |
| And then that hits you, bro, literally two weeks before the fight, two or three weeks. | |
| That shit just fucked me up, but like I said, bro, I'm going to do this for my family. | |
| I know he's not here with us no more, but I know he would want me to continue, and he wouldn't want me to break down. | |
| So I kept it up and became world champion. | |
| That's God's chosen, man. | |
| 20 years old, the youngest to ever do it at this weight class. | |
| Yeah, that's what's up, man. | |
| This shit's heavy, man. | |
| I'm not going to lie, it's just heavy, bro. | |
| What else we got here? | |
| Okay, what advice could you give to an amateur boxer looking to compete and win on a national scale? | |
| How do I develop the courage to compete with the best? | |
| Isaiah Uchiha. | |
| So to be honest with you bro, how you go about that is you got to really make the decision if this is what you want for your life. | |
| If this is what you want for your life, you want to be a world champion. | |
| Once you make that and your mind up about that, every single day, Work as hard as you can. | |
| Stay off your fucking phone. | |
| Don't be on Instagram. | |
| Don't be on Twitter. | |
| Don't be on none of that. | |
| If you really want to be on your phone, watch nothing but boxers. | |
| Learn. | |
| You know, I feel like this is a big issue with the youth today. | |
| They're fucking getting brainwashed with their phone and they don't even know it. | |
| They see TikTok and all this shit, but they're not gaining nothing from it. | |
| And I know kids are watching. | |
| I have cousins. | |
| I have all this. | |
| They watch bullshit all fucking day. | |
| So if you really want to be the best, instead of watching bullshit, watch boxing all day. | |
| That's what I do now. | |
| What fight would you recommend people to watch, to learn, as far as like... | |
| I mean, every fight's going to have something that you can learn from. | |
| You can learn from mistakes, etc. | |
| But what do you think is one of the most educational fights? | |
| One of the most educational fights that shows what type of heart you need to have to be a champion is Diego Corrales versus Castillo 1. | |
| That's a fight. | |
| You seen that? | |
| No. | |
| No, I've never seen that fight. | |
| You guys need to watch that fight. | |
| That is by... | |
| Hold on, I'm going to write that down. | |
| Diego Corrales versus Castillo. | |
| All right. | |
| That is the best, the greatest display of heart, will, never giving up. | |
| This man, he was Diego Corrales, you know, God rest his soul, he's not with us no more. | |
| He was, these are fights I watched growing up. | |
| He was dropped three or four times. | |
| They were about to stop at the last round and he comes back and stops the guy in the 10th round. | |
| Wow. | |
| Amazing. | |
| So if you really want to learn how to be a technician, watch Mayweather's fights. | |
| Mayweather will teach you how to be a technician. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That dude is so good. | |
| But going back... | |
| What's your thoughts on the Philly Shell? | |
| I like it. | |
| I use it. | |
| You use it? | |
| Okay. | |
| So these defenses, they're not there for no reason. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The Philly Shell competes with the regular guard because this guard right here, as you can see, you can hit the body. | |
| Yep. | |
| You can hit the uppercut. | |
| If you're really advanced, you know how to go around that. | |
| But with the Philly Shell, it blocks the body. | |
| Both sides. | |
| You can catch the jab. | |
| You can catch the hook. | |
| And you have to use head movement. | |
| So it's a lot of skills again, bro. | |
| You have to learn how to do this. | |
| This shit just doesn't come overnight. | |
| But they're really... | |
| The Philly show is really effective. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Very effective. | |
| I just watched Floyd do it all day and I'm just like, what the Very effective, but if you see it, he's not just blocking like this. | |
| He's using his legs, he's using his head movement, he's using a lot of shit. | |
| Distributes his whole weight. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| If somebody wants to learn how to box, watch Mayweather. | |
| He's so technical and he does everything great. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wow. | |
| It's not all about power, huh? | |
| Yeah, no. | |
| It's not. | |
| Honestly, sometimes you have to set up shots to get the power shot. | |
| The power shot is not the most important part. | |
| The most important part is setting up the power shot. | |
| Sometimes you want to throw up here to keep their hands up here so you go downstairs. | |
| Or you fucking touch up here to go up here. | |
| It's a thinking man's game, bro. | |
| It's a game with chess in there. | |
| It's calculated. | |
| We have this guy now, Jim. | |
| He's a Miami legend. | |
| He's a world legend in boxing. | |
| Regan Dowd. | |
| So he's doing his camp at Boxer right now. | |
| He's one of our favorite fighters of all time. | |
| Even if you just watch him, he's a very lightweight fighter. | |
| Bro, I'm going to give you a list of names of the boxers. | |
| Okay, yeah. | |
| Because I'd be watching. | |
| I'd be actually watching. | |
| And when you see this guy at 40 years old and the way he moves and distributes the punches, the man cracks like a welterweight, you know? | |
| And he's coming at 120, 119, 120, 124. | |
| This guy's three-time gold medalist. | |
| In the Olympic Games. | |
| Shit. | |
| Bro, that's 12 years already, right there. | |
| You have to be an amateur. | |
| Plus, how much belts you win? | |
| Like six, seven? | |
| Six or seven belts, man. | |
| He's a legend, bro. | |
| He's a living legend. | |
| And, you know, we sit there, we watch, and we see him in real life, and it's like, damn, you know, you learn a lot of these different styles and arsenals, and you implement it into your own craft. | |
| You don't necessarily have to... | |
| What was his name again? | |
| Regan Docs. | |
| It's called Regan Docs. | |
| Is he American? | |
| He fought for Cuba? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| It's spelled kind of weird, so... | |
| But also, the thing I wanted to tell a lot of people too, bro, especially young kids. | |
| Bro, with me, it was never a sure thing for me, bro. | |
| I didn't even want to box. | |
| I almost gave up like three times. | |
| The only reason I didn't is my dad didn't let me. | |
| My dad was a tyrant. | |
| He was not going to let me stop boxing. | |
| That's why I give all the credit to my dad because if it wasn't for that man, bro, I don't know where I'd be. | |
| He knew he had a plan. | |
| He's like, I'm not going to let you stop boxing. | |
| And... | |
| I didn't like boxing, bro. | |
| I honestly thought my dad hated me because I'm four years old, wake up five in the morning, run fucking two miles, go to school, come back, train. | |
| It was like that my whole childhood. | |
| I don't have a childhood. | |
| I don't remember a childhood. | |
| The only thing I remember is Getting my ass beat because I didn't want to train. | |
| Running, training, sparring, and that's it. | |
| Did you ever work a job? | |
| No. | |
| No, I never worked a job. | |
| And that's why I'm very grateful for my dad. | |
| I'm very grateful for my father. | |
| Sometimes, as kids, we don't know where we're going to end up. | |
| But as long as you fucking put 110% of it. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| With me, I didn't know I was going to be world champion, bro. | |
| I thought it was far-fetched. | |
| But I say, you know what? | |
| I'm going to take the chance. | |
| I'm going to work my ass off. | |
| And if it doesn't work out, it's fine, bro. | |
| The only thing that... | |
| If I don't put 100% into it and I walk away, that's what's going to fuck me up in the future. | |
| I grew up in a household like that, too, where my dad pushed me a lot, and I grew up hating him. | |
| But then as I became older, I started to appreciate and say, God damn. | |
| It's a real man. | |
| Yeah, thank you. | |
| Do you think the reason why your father pushed you so hard was, you mentioned that he was involved in criminal activity before. | |
| Was it to keep you away from the streets, you think? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Why he pushed you so hard? | |
| 100%. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| My dad knew exactly what it was. | |
| You know, and I have a lot of respect for him because of that. | |
| Because when I was growing up, I didn't know that. | |
| But now that I see how the streets are, I see how people are, bro. | |
| My dad, at the end of the day, was just protecting us. | |
| And he didn't want us to go the wrong route that he had went. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I mean, it's so... | |
| People really underestimate the importance of fathers, man. | |
| I've always said, like, a good dad will keep their sons out of jail and their daughters off shore poles. | |
| And that's a perfect example. | |
| You know, obviously, he instilled that mindset in you. | |
| Is he like your manager now? | |
| Yeah, I still train with him. | |
| He's just in Seattle right now. | |
| So we made a move to Seattle. | |
| And then another thing I'm proud about too, my dad bought his house. | |
| He has a gym. | |
| He has everything. | |
| Because I made him a lot of money. | |
| And that's why I'm so proud of that not only I am able to live good, but my dad is living fucking comfortably. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So he's over there. | |
| He's doing his thing. | |
| What do you do for work while you were growing up? | |
| Me? | |
| No, your dad. | |
| Oh, he was a trainer. | |
| My dad's a hustler, bro. | |
| I remember my dad used to sell fucking cigars, sell cigarettes. | |
| He used to sell a whole bunch. | |
| We used to go to California. | |
| We used to buy the bootleg movies. | |
| My dad made me hit the block, sell the whole movies. | |
| I wasn't good at it. | |
| My brother was good at selling the movies. | |
| My dad used to make me sell chocolates. | |
| Even when the girls came out, we'd go to California, get them, make me hit the whole fucking block where I lived. | |
| And I never did none of that. | |
| I would eat the chocolates, I'd wear the grills. | |
| But they make good money like that. | |
| And then my dad ended up being a manager at a gym in Central Boxing Gym. | |
| Shout out to Central Boxing Gym. | |
| That's why I had all my youth of boxing in Phoenix, Arizona. | |
| And now I'm really proud because they did a mural of me, my father, my brother outside the gym. | |
| It's really dope. | |
| So, yeah, man. | |
| My dad, he was always going to get it regardless. | |
| So I always liked about my dad. | |
| He always made opportunities for himself and for us. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Do you have something? | |
| Any more chats? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Was there any more chats? | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Question for David. | |
| And guys, get your questions in now because we're going to end the show soon. | |
| Question for David. | |
| What are your thoughts on the future of boxing as a sport and what's the most challenging aspect of being a boxer? | |
| It's a good one. | |
| I feel like the future of boxing right now is getting extremely huge because now, back then... | |
| You wouldn't see fighters making $100 million, $200 million. | |
| Now it's more revolving on Canelo asked for $200 million. | |
| If it ever happens, he might get it. | |
| Mayweather, McGregor, Jake Paul. | |
| So now it's more, we have a bigger audience now. | |
| You know, and now a lot of people could really make a lot of money off of this, bro. | |
| So I feel like the future of boxing is... | |
| Yeah, YouTubers are getting into it like it's huge. | |
| Yeah, that's a good thing, bro. | |
| That's why I never had a problem with the YouTubers getting into boxing. | |
| At the end of the day... | |
| If we can motivate somebody to get in the ring and actually do it themselves, that's what we want. | |
| Sometimes people give YouTubers shit because they're making a lot of money, but bro, they're looking up to us. | |
| That's why they're in the sport. | |
| I think it brings more awareness to the sport. | |
| More awareness, for example, of boxing itself. | |
| Because some kids will never get into it, but seeing their favorite creator get into boxing is like, oh wow, this is dope. | |
| Because I remember before, there was always the criticism, oh, boxing's a dying sport, blah, blah, blah. | |
| But I think with the whole social media... | |
| Yeah. | |
| want to get in a cage and fucking kick each other and shit. | |
| But boxing is a way to do it and have your combat within, you know, and that's why boxing was so technical because you're limited to your hands. | |
| So it's like the better technician, the better fighter is going to win 99 out of 100 times. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you got to remember like it's not just men You got a lot of women doing it now. | |
| You got kids doing it. | |
| You got everybody doing boxing. | |
| Yep. | |
| It's universal for everybody. | |
| Right. | |
| So... | |
| Dude, but 28 and 0 is crazy, bro. | |
| Yes. | |
| Question, what is the minimum amount of, I guess, wins you should have, amateur, before you go pro, you think? | |
| There's none. | |
| None? | |
| There's no... | |
| Like me, I only had 15 fights, and I turned pro. | |
| It's just, if you're ready to go professional, you're ready to go professional. | |
| There's some kids, bro, in New Mexico, 15 years old. | |
| They don't have the ways to make money, so boxing provides them with the money, and they feed their family, and these kids don't have no amateur experience. | |
| Wow. | |
| So it just really depends on where you're at. | |
| What's the process like? | |
| Is there like a board? | |
| Do you declare, I want to go professional? | |
| How do you make that transition? | |
| You apply for a professional book or a professional license. | |
| You have to have a team and if they approve it, you just do the test, scan your head, all that stuff. | |
| If you're fit to fight, you're fit to fight. | |
| You see the YouTubers, they're fighting. | |
| Greatest fighter of all time in your books? | |
| It's a couple, brother. | |
| Top three? | |
| Oscar De La Hoya, I love him. | |
| Manny Pacquiao. | |
| Roberto Duran. | |
| Roy Jones Jr. | |
| Julio Cesar Chavez. | |
| Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, the list goes on and on, bro. | |
| I really love boxing, so I know about all these boxers, but there's just been so much great. | |
| And I'm just, in this position I'm in, I'm very happy for myself to even be in the same, you know, doing the same thing that my idols were doing when they were my age. | |
| Do you think Tyson's going to bring the peekaboo style when he fights Jake? | |
| Or is he going to switch it up? | |
| No, he's not going to switch it up. | |
| I don't know. | |
| That's why I'm asking because I don't see anybody do it anymore. | |
| So I was wondering, is he going to... | |
| I mean, I don't think so. | |
| I think Mike Tyson, he's always liked his style. | |
| His style is very effective. | |
| And the best person to do his style is Mike Tyson. | |
| So I think he's going to stick with it. | |
| Tyson's special, man. | |
| Who utilizes it now, you would say, the best? | |
| Pitbull. | |
| Pitbull, yeah, exactly. | |
| Pitbull... | |
| You know, so like with boxing, there's like a lot of trends. | |
| So back then when Mayweather was fighting, everybody wanted to have the Philly shell. | |
| Then Lomachenko came up. | |
| You know Lomachenko? | |
| Yes. | |
| His angles and all that. | |
| And then you see kids turning to that. | |
| So it's just like a trend, bro. | |
| You know, people, that's a cool thing. | |
| Sometimes there's a fighter that comes in the generation that just motivates the whole boxing world. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So it's different. | |
| There's people that have the Julio Cesar Chavez style. | |
| Golovkin style, Mayweather, and Lomachenko. | |
| What would you say are the main styles? | |
| Because obviously Mexicans fight a certain way, Russians fight a certain way, Americans have their style, Cubans have their own style. | |
| What is the differentiation between the two for an average view that I might not know? | |
| So the Mexican style is a brawling style. | |
| You just go in there, you fucking give it your all. | |
| Mano a mano, that's how they call it. | |
| The other one... | |
| That's where the term comes from, I guess. | |
| The boxing, the sweet science is like Mayweather style. | |
| Use the ring. | |
| That style gets a lot of criticism because a lot of people call it running, but it's not running. | |
| It's just being more intelligent, moving your feet. | |
| It's letting the person tire themselves out. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Those are the only two. | |
| It's either brawler or boxer. | |
| And then usually in America, you got like the West Coast fighters and you got the East Coast fighters. | |
| And you can actually tell a little bit of the difference. | |
| You know, like when Zab Judy used to fight and all those guys from the East Coast, from New York, and they would fight, you know, people from the West Coast, from LA, and you'll see the difference from a place like Wildcard and somewhere like Gleason's. | |
| What are some of the differences you would say from the East Coast, West Coast guys? | |
| I think, you know, from the East Coast, it's more... | |
| East Coast is more Philly shell. | |
| Philly shell. | |
| Ah, okay. | |
| And in the West Coast, it's more like... | |
| Brawler. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Brawler. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Nigga shell. | |
| I'll just say it, bro. | |
| Slim Mobile goes, I'm a company truck driver who's on a 1099. | |
| Should I make it LLC? Yes, my friend. | |
| And switch that shit to S Corp ASAP. So it's possible. | |
| Rick says, never sent out a Super Chat, but just a huge fan of the Mexican Monster. | |
| Used to be a Canelo fan, but now a fan of David. | |
| David is a future shout-out enough for putting him on as well. | |
| Thank you, brother. | |
| I'm not gonna lie, man. | |
| I'm a fan, too, as well. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| You know? | |
| Very humble guy. | |
| Thank you, guys. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| No, I mean, I knew about you because my coach said, oh, David Benavidez was in the gym training and Jake was there, etc. | |
| And I was like, oh, shit. | |
| And he was like, yeah, Canelo's fucking ducking him. | |
| Everybody knows that. | |
| And I was like, oh, shit. | |
| So if you guys want to come down to the gym and see my sparring sessions, you'll realize why. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| You'll realize why I'm ducking. | |
| Hey, man. | |
| I'll be scared, too. | |
| Hello, Benavidez. | |
| Thoughts on Isaac Pitbull and Canelo ain't scared of you, brother. | |
| He would break you down easy. | |
| What's your response to that? | |
| He don't get an answer. | |
| Isaac Pitbull? | |
| Thoughts on that? | |
| Pitbull is a great fighter. | |
| He's like... | |
| The next Mike Tyson. | |
| He's a little Mike Tyson. | |
| He has the same style. | |
| He's a great fighter. | |
| I think he adds a lot to the Mexican list of fighters because he's the same. | |
| He puts everything out, puts his heart out on the line and fights with everything. | |
| Fights with a lot of balls. | |
| Keep Canelo... | |
| This guy. | |
| You got some Canelo fans in here. | |
| Keep Canelo name out your mouth, punk. | |
| You're going to end up just like Raleigh Romero. | |
| I already imagined your confused face on a canvas. | |
| Canelo is the best Mexican fighter of all time. | |
| Bruh. | |
| No response to that, right? | |
| That's why, you know, that's what makes the victories much more sweeter when you get to shut people up like that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How much hate do you get like that? | |
| To be honest with you, I don't go on my phone. | |
| I don't look at Instagram. | |
| Because at the end of the day, bro, that shit pisses you off. | |
| Yeah. | |
| If you keep reading that shit. | |
| I mean, I know a lot of people say, oh, I don't let it get to me. | |
| But think about it like this. | |
| If you're reading somebody call you a piece of shit every single day for a month, that shit starts to get to you. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Negativity is negativity no matter how you put it. | |
| That's true. | |
| You're right. | |
| So, I mean, The thing I gotta say about people like this, if you don't have the fucking balls to say that to somebody's face and you're just typing, then you're not a real fucking person. | |
| If somebody talked to me like that in person, I'll fucking beat the shit out of them. | |
| And that's how I know it. | |
| If you don't have the balls to tell that to somebody to their face, you're not a real person. | |
| Keyboard warriors, bro. | |
| You're not a real person. | |
| And here's the other thing, too. | |
| It's not like you're the one that's saying, yo, let's box. | |
| So clearly you're not scared. | |
| The onus isn't on you, it's on him. | |
| What the fuck are they talking about? | |
| What does it sound like? | |
| I'm not going to fight him unless they give me 200 million. | |
| That's absurd, bro. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| You know what you're doing whenever you say that? | |
| You don't want it to happen. | |
| Wink, wink. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| What do you think of a catchweight fight at 160 with Crawford? | |
| You know, it's crazy because they were just talking to me about that. | |
| But no, 160. | |
| I haven't been at 160 since I was like 12. | |
| I can only imagine cutting weight. | |
| Because you're a tall guy. | |
| So 160, I mean, I'm already doing a lot. | |
| But getting to 168, 160, that's another 8 pounds. | |
| So no, I'm not doing that. | |
| But Crawford is a great fighter. | |
| I mean, I would love to share the ring with Crawford if that opportunity came up. | |
| But not at 160. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| June says, hey David, since you sparred with Golovkin in the past, is it true what they say about his punching power? | |
| Keep up the great work champ. | |
| That motherfucker is hard. | |
| He is hard. | |
| He is hard. | |
| So funny story when I first sparred him. | |
| So I was the main sparring partner for a reason. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I am who I am and I was his main sparring partner for a reason. | |
| The first day we sparred when I was 15 years old, I remember... | |
| I went there. | |
| That's before he fought in the U.S., so nobody knew him. | |
| And then my dad, he's like, hey, you want to spar? | |
| I'm 15 years old. | |
| I'm like, yeah, I'll spar. | |
| He's like, who are you going to spar? | |
| He's like, that guy over there. | |
| So I turn to look at Golovkin, and he gives me, bro, the most killer look I've ever seen. | |
| I'm like, oh, fuck. | |
| I'm kind of scared, to be honest with you. | |
| But I'm like, I'm not. | |
| If my dad thinks I can handle it, then fuck it. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Having a great sparring. | |
| Both catching each other. | |
| We both throw a left hook at the same time. | |
| Boom. | |
| Hit it to the body. | |
| We both go. | |
| Oh, step back. | |
| We both step back. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But he hits hard, bro. | |
| The reason why I know everything I know right now and why I'm so good is because his shots were so hard that you have to do things outside of your comfort zone. | |
| You have to learn defense. | |
| You have to learn head movement. | |
| You have to learn all this shit to not get hit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But he hit hard. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But he knows I hit hard, too. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's different, man. | |
| I mean, I sparred with my coach a few times and he fucks me up and I'm like, God damn. | |
| It's one thing to hit mitts, but it's another thing to stand in front of someone that's more experienced than you and fight them and then you're like, oh shit, I gotta avoid getting hit. | |
| And not only the thing, the thing about it too is getting hit and also being able to think after. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That shit's hard, bro. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And then, like, what you mentioned, like, about, like, setting up shots. | |
| Like, that's so, like, that's something that's, like, underrated. | |
| It's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to hit you a few times up top, and then, boom, hit you in the body. | |
| And hitting a hit in the body hurts, man. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| It takes everything out of you. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Like, it'll knock the wind out of you. | |
| So it's like, unless you box and, you know, you feel it, it's like it's, you can't describe it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, and I mean, to obviously do it on your level was fucking crazy, man. | |
| Yo, Eddie hit me one time. | |
| Crazy admiration. | |
| I said, bro, I need a timeout. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, crazy admiration, man. | |
| Dieter Biev versus Bival. | |
| Who do you got? | |
| To be honest with you, I think Bival is going to win. | |
| Because Berta Biev, bro, he's like almost 40 years old. | |
| He's strong, but I think Bival is more of a complete package. | |
| He can move in and out. | |
| He hits hard. | |
| And, you know, he uses his distance really well. | |
| But Bival, I mean, Berta Biev, too, he's a monster. | |
| But I got Bival on that fight. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then what else do we got here? | |
| J-Tune. | |
| The Mexican Monster, Mike Tyson's voice. | |
| David, I'm 28 years old, 225 pounds, 5'8". | |
| If I lose 40 pounds in eight months, would you spar me? | |
| I have four to five years of experience, but I haven't done any boxing in like years. | |
| You're going to get fucked up, bro. | |
| I mean, I can work with him, but... | |
| This one just wants to get beat up, I guess. | |
| You know what, bro? | |
| Go to Boxer Gym, sign up. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sign a waiver. | |
| There you go. | |
| Sign the waiver, bro. | |
| I'll get sued. | |
| Yeah, man. | |
| It's crazy out here. | |
| Have David been invited to P. Diddy party? | |
| Come on, man. | |
| You know what's going on with Diddy, right? | |
| Yeah, I've been seen. | |
| No, I haven't been. | |
| I haven't gotten invited to those parties. | |
| She's a married man, man. | |
| Confront Canelo in person if the fight don't happen. | |
| I want to at least see him shit his pants in the presence of the Mexican monster. | |
| I mean, I would love to do that. | |
| I definitely would love to do that. | |
| Have you ever met him in person before? | |
| I've never seen him in person. | |
| He's small, bro. | |
| I was going to say, he's not that much bigger than him. | |
| Yeah, and I think that's a big reason why he's scared is because of your reach and everything else like that. | |
| And I also think that because his last, when he fought Bivol, he went up in weight 175, and Bivol, he throws a lot of combinations, really powerful, and kind of like the same as me. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So, I think he's seen, bro, that it's... | |
| What class would you put Canelo in? | |
| Would you consider him a brawler? | |
| He's a brawler. | |
| I don't take nothing away from Canelo. | |
| Canelo is a living legend. | |
| Obviously, the opinion I have is not because of what he's done in his career. | |
| It's because he doesn't want to fight me, but he's a living legend. | |
| But if you look at his record, when he comes up to 168, you find Caleb Plant, you find Billy Joe Saunders, guys that didn't have power. | |
| Once he goes up to 175, he fights guys with power. | |
| What are your thoughts on the Fury vs Nagano fight? | |
| I was really surprised on that fight to be honest with you. | |
| I'm a big fan of Tyson Fury. | |
| I just feel like he didn't take that fight serious at all. | |
| But Ngandu, bro, he really made a big splash. | |
| Ngandu has a lot of fucking power. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I think that's what surprised Tyson Fury, that he didn't think that he'd be able to perform on him or fight with him on that level. | |
| And Ngandu is training with Mike Tyson. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Mike Tyson has a lot of knowledge, bro. | |
| Amen. | |
| Not to make a joke, but that's black power for you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Bruh. | |
| What did you think about his most recent fight with Anthony Joshua? | |
| Yes, thank you. | |
| I think Joshua wasn't fucking around. | |
| Joshua has a lot of power too, bro. | |
| I was just surprised how fast it ended. | |
| I thought it was going to go way longer than that, but I think that just shows what level Joshua's on. | |
| He ain't playing. | |
| What else do we got here? | |
| We got Nikes, right? | |
| Is it? | |
| Gomez Lopez. | |
| Gomez, sorry. | |
| We could all agree that Golovkin was the most feared fighter in his prime, yet Canelo fought him and took all his belts, so how could you say he's scared? | |
| So then why isn't he taking the fight? | |
| Why isn't he finding his number one? | |
| That's the thing I say about people. | |
| Bro, if you're just tired of me talking so much shit, come fucking beat me. | |
| Come knock me out. | |
| And make a fucking fat check after that. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| That's why he don't want to fight because he knows this shit ain't no game right here. | |
| I mean, before he asked for the $200 million, I think the offer that my promotion company sent him was about $60 million. | |
| $60 million. | |
| Now he's making $35 million. | |
| So y'all are like doubling it. | |
| Why would you have two deals on the table? | |
| $35 million and a $60 million deal, but you go with the $35 million. | |
| Amen. | |
| Amen. | |
| Men lie, women lie. | |
| It is very clear what's happening here. | |
| And I guarantee you he's not going to get that money with nobody else. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, he wasn't. | |
| Nobody else. | |
| And you know what's crazy? | |
| People want to see you and him fight. | |
| They want to see it. | |
| I want to see it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But... | |
| It's just at the end of the day, you want to... | |
| Respect boxing. | |
| The best fight, the best. | |
| This guy has all the belts, bro. | |
| He don't even want to give the people the opportunity. | |
| He wants to handpick who he fights. | |
| And when you have all the belts, bro, I mean, you could do it for a little bit of time, but come on, brother. | |
| This dude is doing it for way too long, bro. | |
| And here's the other thing, too. | |
| And I want to get your guys' takes on this. | |
| Like... | |
| Floyd did it with Pacquiao, right? | |
| He waited, waited, waited. | |
| Then he did the fight eventually. | |
| And to this day, people still criticize him. | |
| Oh, you didn't fight him in his prime. | |
| You were scared, etc. | |
| He still fought him. | |
| He fought him, right? | |
| But people are always going to talk shit. | |
| So it's like, for Canelo, it's like, bro, just fight him now. | |
| The crazy thing about it, too, is everybody wants to watch it. | |
| Which means everyone's going to pay to watch it. | |
| Which means there's going to be a sellout fight. | |
| Imagine if it was 60 mil. | |
| How much is he getting off the pay-per-view? | |
| Because you still get money off the pay-per-view. | |
| That's just the flat fee he's getting. | |
| That's just up front just to do it. | |
| That doesn't even account for the pay-per-views after the fact. | |
| He even said, keep the pay-per-views. | |
| We had had a conversation. | |
| We had had a conversation. | |
| My guy, Samson, called me. | |
| He was like, hey, so an opportunity came up. | |
| He said that he, after your fight, he will fight you in September, but you have to get a fee of five million dollars. | |
| And that's it. | |
| No pay-per-view, nothing. | |
| I said, let's fucking do it. | |
| Let's do it. | |
| I have to give away percentages. | |
| I'm ended up with like 3.5. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Before taxes. | |
| So I'm like, for me, I don't give a fuck. | |
| That's the opportunity I wanted. | |
| I don't care about the money because once I beat him, that's when the money comes. | |
| Right. | |
| But I think they were just trying to see what I was going to say. | |
| Because I had said before that if I would fight him for five million or even less. | |
| So they're trying to see, oh yeah, well, he wanted more money. | |
| He didn't keep his word and said he'd only fight for the five million. | |
| But I ain't banned, bro. | |
| I said, yeah, I stand by my word. | |
| I don't care. | |
| I want the opportunity. | |
| You called their bluff. | |
| You called their bluff. | |
| And then the crazy thing too is that him and his team, they'd go and say, we never received nothing from Benavides. | |
| There was never a fight on the table. | |
| Bro, how are you going to sign a three-fight deal with my promotion company in the fight that everybody wants to see? | |
| You think my promotion company is not going to talk to you about fighting me? | |
| Like, how is my name never... | |
| He said that Al Heyman never talked to him about me. | |
| Like, bro, it just makes no sense. | |
| So it's just lie after lie. | |
| You know, it's interesting because the people watching, right? | |
| Like, we talked about the whole Canelo thing. | |
| And then they keep bringing it up. | |
| That tells you how much the people want it. | |
| The people here even are, like, watching it right now. | |
| We got, what, over 10,000 of y'all watching right now live. | |
| Like, the people want it. | |
| Almost every question that's come through is like, where's the fight? | |
| Like... | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know what's funny too, bro? | |
| So when we heard about that $150, $150, $200 million, I'm like, yeah, well, hopefully after he gets that money, he has enough money left over to buy a pair of balls. | |
| LAUGHTER He's ducking, man. | |
| It's obvious he's ducking. | |
| At this point. | |
| Main event. | |
| Main event goes, big fan of David, you have an excellent high guard. | |
| Did you model that after Winky Wright? | |
| Also, to put in perspective, as scary as David is in boxing, in his prime, GGG or Triple G was arguably scarier. | |
| I'm sure David would agree. | |
| Yeah, that's a good comparison. | |
| I like what the guy said about Winky Wright because yes, I did. | |
| Winky Wright is definitely who I took it after. | |
| And what did the guy say about Golovkin? | |
| Did he mention? | |
| In his prime. | |
| Yeah, he said in his prime. | |
| What's scarier? | |
| Yeah. | |
| He said David would agree. | |
| I mean, David... | |
| He fought Canelo too. | |
| I watched that fight. | |
| I watched the fight. | |
| Triple G fight Canelo. | |
| The thing about it is too that you guys got to understand. | |
| Golovkin, when he was coming up, when he made, bro, when he did his HBO pay-per-view, his first one, no, his first HBO fight, he was already 29. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So he started later. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I, you know, I've been champion three times. | |
| I've done a lot already, bro, at 27 years old, and I'm still going. | |
| Yep. | |
| You know, so by the time, now these are the best years. | |
| I feel like I'm really entering my prime, and I feel like people are really going to see the best of me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So I can't agree with that question. | |
| You know, I can't agree with that because I'm barely getting started. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I got fucking 10 years boxing already. | |
| I'm ready for another 15. | |
| Shit. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| We got, who's up next here? | |
| Oh. | |
| Strawberry goes, if any other fighter kept denying they'd strip their belt, why has a Canelo been stripped? | |
| So because the sanctioning of all the belts, there's so much fucking money in there, brother. | |
| That 3% off of that, they all get 3%. | |
| That 3% off that 40 mil, who else does that? | |
| Where else are they going to get that money at? | |
| So, Canelo's promising that he'll fight me or he'll fight whoever after, but he never does. | |
| So, I mean, I don't want to talk bad about the sanctioning belts, but that's just what it is. | |
| That's the cold reality, that they're making more money with him. | |
| And they want to keep him happy. | |
| Okay, so it's not even honoring other fights. | |
| It's who's holding the belt. | |
| It makes us the most money. | |
| It's how it is. | |
| He has priority. | |
| Basically, yeah. | |
| That's how they're making it seem. | |
| Boxing politics, man. | |
| It's crazy, bro. | |
| See, as a viewer, we would never know. | |
| Yeah, you wouldn't know. | |
| Oh, he's scared or whatever. | |
| There's so much behind the scenes that nobody knows. | |
| And we don't even know what's really going on. | |
| But I'm glad that y'all are kind of shedding light on this because it's like, you know, somebody out there might say, oh, what are you doing? | |
| But they don't know what the fuck is going on. | |
| They don't know the whole rundown about everything. | |
| And that's just the cold reality of it. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| He's making the company so much money, the sanctioning belt so much money that, you know, they're just going to cater to him. | |
| I remember we had on... | |
| Until he loses. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| So they look at it like, alright. | |
| So who holds the belt sometimes is more important than if the best person holds the belt. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wow. | |
| So this is a thing too. | |
| Obviously... | |
| It's called the passing of the torch for a reason because Mayweather did that to Canelo. | |
| So how the fuck am I ever supposed to get there if I'm not able to fight the best of the best? | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I've put the work in. | |
| Everything he's been through, I've been through, I've done the same thing. | |
| But because he was able to share the ring with Floyd Mayweather, they made 2.5 million, or how much they make? | |
| 2 million, 1.5 million out of the cells? | |
| That instantaneously blew his name up. | |
| Mayweather's fans became his fans. | |
| So I guarantee you, once I fight Canelo, his fans are going to turn into my fans. | |
| But it's because you get that spotlight to perform and show yourself to the world. | |
| I mean, I'm doing what I'm doing. | |
| I'm giving great fights, but I'm not selling 1.5 million. | |
| I'm not selling like them. | |
| Do you think it's because he's not at the end of his career yet and he wants to keep going and he knows fighting you will be a career member? | |
| So this is the thing about boxing too, bro. | |
| You have to put the work in, bro. | |
| It's not going to happen overnight. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I've been professional 10 years. | |
| I barely got my first pay-per-view last year. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So it's just you got to put the work in, put the work. | |
| I think little by little I'm getting there. | |
| I'm going to start to hit those numbers. | |
| But it's just I'm saying sometimes it's the passing of the torch. | |
| If you really believe in your skills, come shut me up. | |
| If not, I'm going to take the torch myself. | |
| But that's the thing that he knows that it's 50-50. | |
| Is there anyone else in that weight class you could fight at the same magnitude or not really? | |
| No. | |
| Canelo is the guy right now. | |
| So that's why, you know, forget about that. | |
| Going up to 75. | |
| These are the best guys there, so we're going to make it happen there. | |
| Got it. | |
| Alright. | |
| Yo, that nigga's scary, man. | |
| Yeah, but that's all they're spamming in the chat right now. | |
| Yo. | |
| Just so y'all know, if you watch this on the playback, it's not that he's talking about Canelo so much, it's that you guys keep fucking asking and he's answering your questions. | |
| True. | |
| What else we got here? | |
| Slimmo Bob, what's your opinion on kids and girls you're hooking up with? | |
| Nigga, what? | |
| Okay, question for David. | |
| Do you think you're a traditional man and why? | |
| WFNFW, David, stay focused and keep working hard. | |
| You got it, champs. | |
| Yeah, traditional, man. | |
| I always say I am because, you know, at the end of the day, I'm a family man. | |
| I work hard. | |
| Does your family help keep you grounded? | |
| Yeah, my wife does. | |
| My wife does a lot. | |
| You know, she puts me in my place. | |
| She puts me in check. | |
| And not only that, it's... | |
| Having my family, bro, it gives me so much more motivation. | |
| I love being there with my family as opposed to being in the club or being this and that. | |
| I get to see my son grow up. | |
| I'm teaching him how to box. | |
| My little daughter, Chloe, she's three months old. | |
| She's moving more. | |
| I'm very happy in that sense. | |
| Do you think if you came here as a single guy, it would have been way harder to stay focused on training, stay focused on avoiding the club, avoiding girls? | |
| It just really depends on where you're at. | |
| I feel like it definitely is. | |
| It would be a... | |
| Distraction for me, but I'm never going to let nothing distract me. | |
| I know my dream. | |
| I know where I'm going. | |
| You can do that after your career is over. | |
| Right now, there's only a small window of time to accomplish what we want to accomplish. | |
| Good point. | |
| I'm not going to say it wouldn't affect other people. | |
| I've seen people just make money and fucking live that lifestyle and fuck their whole career up. | |
| A lot of fighters. | |
| A lot of fighters. | |
| It happened to Mike Tyson. | |
| I mean, I love Mike Tyson, but it happened to him. | |
| He was doing orgies on coke and shit like that. | |
| And, you know, after Cuz died, it all went downhill. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you got to have a good, good team behind you. | |
| You know, you have to have mentors. | |
| You have to. | |
| And also the thing is, you got to take the ego out of it. | |
| That's what I'm talking about ego. | |
| You have to, you have to learn when you're fucking up. | |
| You have to admit to yourself and you have to see what way do I go? | |
| Do I make more mistakes or do I go forward and actually go after my dream? | |
| And I feel like now, bro, to be honest with you, people, they're more self-centered. | |
| A lot of people more on their phone, wanted to show off or Instagram or Twitter or all that. | |
| Bro, that shit's cool, bro, but at the end of the day, in the real life, that shit does not matter. | |
| For you getting to your dream, It's a solid distraction. | |
| Some people, I feel like they're addicted to social media and they don't even know facts. | |
| It's almost like they're living for social media rather than living in real life. | |
| Yeah, and they make zero money on that shit too. | |
| What else do we got here? | |
| And then we're going to close out, guys. | |
| We got what? | |
| 11,000 y'all watching plus. | |
| That's it. | |
| Okay, so we're caught up. | |
| Guys, I'll give y'all the last word, man. | |
| What's coming up? | |
| What you guys got going on in the future? | |
| Yeah, so we got a fight. | |
| I don't know if it's June 15th or June 22nd, but me, I'm going to fight for the light heavyweight title. | |
| Light heavyweight interim title, and then on the same night, Gervonta Davis is going to fight Frank Martin. | |
| It's going to be huge, man. | |
| Fucking lit card. | |
| It's going to be amazing. | |
| Probably going to be the biggest card. | |
| Where's it going to be? | |
| The whole year. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's either going to be in Vegas or Houston. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was going to ask. | |
| I know you didn't know where it was. | |
| Yeah, it's going to be a fucking big fight. | |
| So I'm very excited. | |
| I'm working hard for that. | |
| And we just take it little by little. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Hopefully... | |
| Hopefully we can bring you guys a Canelo fight because I know that's what everybody wants to see. | |
| Man, the chat's been spamming it all the whole time. | |
| Half the questions were about that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, I'm just happy to be able to be here with you guys. | |
| Yeah, bro. | |
| Thank you for coming, man. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Thank you for coming, bro. | |
| And it's an honor to be here with you guys and be here with the fans. | |
| No, it's an honor to be here. | |
| Bro, because I started training boxing a few months ago and I'm like, holy fuck. | |
| I got a whole newfound respect for the sport and for you guys. | |
| So, for me, this is awesome. | |
| Bro, I got to teach this guy like I was doing the class. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, no, honestly, bro, he can teach you a lot. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So I find enjoying that, too, just helping the fighters. | |
| I mean, the guys that he brought... | |
| So my CEO network, they came through the box for training, right? | |
| And then he came and showed them a lot of moves. | |
| I was like, damn, that's love, bro. | |
| He didn't have to, but he did it. | |
| I'll go. | |
| I never go outside, but I'll go. | |
| Let's do it! | |
| I love that. | |
| Yeah, so that'll be great. | |
| I think the people would like to see that too. | |
| But nonetheless though, thank you Matilda for making this happen as well. | |
| Yeah, always. | |
| Thank you, bro. | |
| I never met David. | |
| Even Daniel as well. | |
| Thank you, Daniel, for showing up as well. | |
| Yeah, shout out to Boxer Gym for sending us up, man. | |
| What's coming up next for you and Boxer Gym? | |
| Man, at the moment, it's been amazing just because we've got a few projects on the line. | |
| You know, we're looking at opening up another location, possibly up in NYC, another one in the Middle East. | |
| Middle East has a huge boxing market. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We're trying to get into it big time. | |
| You know, I'm in the middle of also, you know, restructuring a few things with the brand where, you know, we've got the management company, we're getting fighters in. | |
| Having David Benavides at the gym is an absolute, you know, honor and pleasure. | |
| It's been attracting a lot of fighters, you know. | |
| And it's just about, you know, fueling the brand and being very consistent with what we're doing and bringing more value to the people, always. | |
| You know what I like, Boxer? | |
| There's a community. | |
| They care about their people. | |
| And for example, let's say you're a member, they care about you too as well. | |
| And what's more important is that celebrities come in there all the time and they're humble. | |
| They help people, they're social, so that's really good at Boxing Jam. | |
| That's great, man. | |
| But yeah, guys, I hope you guys enjoyed the interview, man. | |
| We're going to be back with some lovely ladies here in about maybe 45 to an hour. | |
| Yo, thank you guys for coming by. | |
| This was honestly fucking awesome. | |
| Thank you guys. | |
| Real quick, man. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh yeah, he gave us some hats and a shirt. | |
| Yeah, yeah, that's a shirt. | |
| Shout to Dave Benavidez and his team, man. | |
| And yeah, guys, we'll catch you guys here in a bit, in about an hour or so, man. | |
| Thank you guys for coming by. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Peace! |
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