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Feb. 19, 2024 - Fresh & Fit
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​⁠Pearl Gets In HEATED Debate On Domestic Abuse And Frank Castle Appears!
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Welcome to Freshly Podcast all the way from London, aka the great UK, the United Kingdom.
We're here with a bunch of lovely ladies and Pearl and Troy.
Let's get into it, guys.
Let's go!
An intro?
Oh, my God.
Get out.
Get out.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
And we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
We are here in London, man.
It's a great time to be here, man.
It's cold as hell, and I want to get back to Miami, but that's fine.
Guys, rumble.com slash freshfit.
As you guys know, that is the home base for us.
Also, check us out on fnfsuperchat.com or rumblerantin if you guys got questions or you want to engage with the panel.
I know it's been a bit since we've been off air for a while.
We just came from Romania.
We were with the Tate Brothers.
I was lit.
We got into London like maybe two days ago?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've been here for about maybe a little over 24 hours.
And we're ready to go back home, bro.
Yeah, we're ready to go back.
Holy!
We're ready to go back, man.
But yeah, other than that, sorry guys for the delay.
Obviously, we're in a new setup.
Shout out to Pearl for, you know, hooking us up and, you know, being so gracious to allow us to use her studio.
Yeah, we got a packed house in here, man.
So yeah, those are websites, guys.
Rumble.com slash FreshFit.
That is the home base for us.
EvanFSuperChat.com if you guys want to super chat in and get involved in the show.
We got you either way.
FNF Super Chat's a little bit easier, especially since we're on the road because we got Mo in the back.
Back in Miami, monitoring it for us so that we can read them for you guys.
But yeah, I guess, Fresh, anything else?
Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, your body count.
We'll start right here.
Welcome to the show.
Okay.
My name is Tatiana.
I'm 25.
I'm a musician.
Where are you from originally?
I'm Angolan and Portuguese.
Okay.
Like, were you born there?
Wasn't born there.
Wasn't born there.
No, I was actually born here.
Okay, that's your descent.
Yeah, outside of South East.
Okay.
So, but you're from London originally?
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay.
Okay, and then you said you are a...
You're from London.
All right.
London, the city, or like another part of the UK? No, so it's outside of South East, so it's not really London.
What's the name of the town?
Kent.
Let's just say Kent.
Okay.
Is that a safe area?
No.
You don't want to go there.
I'm going to get shift found.
You don't want to go there.
I'm going to get shift found.
And then you said you're a musician, right?
Yes.
Yeah, I'm a musician.
What type of music do you make?
Kizomba.
Kizomba makes with R&B. You can sing?
What is Kizomba?
And I rap as well.
It's been a real quick bar for us.
Wait, what is Kizomba?
Kizomba?
We're gonna hear it right now.
Have you ever heard of Kalema?
No.
Yeah, Nelson Freitas.
It's like Portuguese music, I guess?
Angolan.
Angolan is a different, different places.
It's not just Angola.
Okay.
You've got Portuguese artists, you've got Guilherme Fradianos, you've got different people.
Bless you.
Thank you.
We're waiting.
Waiting for?
A verse.
Oh no, not today.
What do you mean?
Yo, all my days.
Nah, we'll see.
We'll see you next time, next time.
We could freestyle together.
I'm a rapper, too, so I get it.
Okay, okay.
I'm down.
Dating status?
No, well, highest education level completed.
Yeah, for you.
Highest education level completed?
Oh, uni.
High school, college.
Okay, uni.
So, four-year degree, that means, right?
Do we really need to go into that?
We go into it.
Yeah, we go into it.
Okay, I'm not going to lie.
I dropped out of uni.
I learned more outside than I did way more outside of uni than I did within it.
That's fine.
We always say college is scammed.
So, it's different here, I noticed.
I didn't realize that you guys call it We call it uni, you guys call it college.
Or university too, but you guys differentiate.
College for you guys, because you guys finish what we call high school at 16, right?
What do you guys call it?
Secondary school?
Yeah.
Secondary school.
And then what's after that?
College.
Or sixth form.
Okay, and what is that the equivalent?
Is that the equivalent to an associate's degree, maybe?
Well, college is more like 16 to 18.
It's like the thing that you do before you then go to university.
Before university.
And university here is four years?
Usually three, sometimes four.
Three to four, maybe five, depending on what course that you take.
Oh, shit, they scam me all over here.
No, 100%.
Yeah, they do, they do.
Because here, high school is four years, then you go to university for four years, you get a bachelor's degree.
Or you can do an associate's.
Or you can go a master's and all that.
Okay, all right, so, okay.
And then relationship status?
Single.
And keeping it that way.
Okay.
Who hurt you?
Are your parents still together?
Hmm?
Are your parents still together?
You like to get personal.
Yes.
No, my parents are not together.
Divorced?
They were never married.
Oh, okay.
Alright, and then fresh, your favorite question.
Birth control?
Yes.
So you're on birth control.
Alright, cool.
Body count?
Low.
I thought she was going to say loads then.
What about you?
What's your name?
Hi, I'm Sakena.
How old are you?
I'm 29.
I just turned 29.
Where are you from, Rosie?
Originally, I'm Moroccan.
Do you speak Arabic?
I speak Arabic.
Okay, what do you do for work?
Bless you.
I'm an entertainment showbiz journalist and presenter.
Okay, journalist?
Yeah, a presenter.
And a presenter.
When you say presenter, what do you mean?
Like host.
Okay, like on a news show or something?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like an anchor?
Yeah, entertainment news, e-news style kind of thing.
Okay.
Highest education level completed?
Bachelor's degree.
That's the 16 to 18 thing?
No, that's university.
Oh, university degree.
Okay.
What did you major in?
Journalism.
Okay.
And that's four years or five years?
Three years.
Okay.
So the bachelor degree for you guys is three years?
It's three years, usually.
Okay.
Relationship status?
Single and protecting my peace.
Wait, that's new.
Yeah, I got an update for you.
Yeah, well, we'll have to chat.
But I'm single, newly single, yeah.
Question, who bought those Van Cleese bracelets for you?
No, I bought these.
All for yourself?
Yeah.
How much piece?
How much a piece?
How much it costs?
I don't know.
I just get it from my jeweler.
My Lebanese jeweler.
You don't know the cost of it?
Yeah, they're not expensive.
They're not like Van Cleef.
They're like 18 karat gold designed in Van Cleef.
Okay.
So I don't go to the Van Cleef shop.
I just get gold.
Got it.
Okay.
All right.
He's a jewelry guy, as you can tell.
Are your parents together?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Okay.
How long?
30 years, probably?
Yeah, it was about 30 years, yeah.
And then, are you on birth control?
Come on, man!
Come on!
Tell us, man!
Come on!
No, not engaging in anything.
Okay.
So, keeping it natural.
Waiting for marriage.
Alright, what about you?
What's your name?
My name's Rihanna.
Okay.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm 26.
Where are you from?
Northwest London.
Okay.
Is that a good area?
A little bit dangerous, a bit of pee-pee sometimes.
Gotcha.
Oh wait, question for you.
Are you actually from Morocco or did you grow up in London?
I was born in Spain and grew up in London.
Okay, but you're Moroccan descent but you grew up here.
Yeah, my parents.
Okay.
What about you?
What's your like background, like ethnic background?
Ghana, West Africa.
Okay.
But you grew up in London?
Yes, I did.
Okay.
See, people here are like...
The people here...
Are you first generation or second generation?
I am...
My dad was born here.
My mom wasn't.
So I don't know what that makes me.
Second?
Second generation?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, people know their roots here.
First, like, in America, it's like, oh, I'm just a nigga, bro.
By the way, there's only one Rihanna, by the way.
Who's that?
She's from Barbados.
But continue.
I believe her name's Robin.
We know her as Rihanna.
Rihanna's on my birth certificate.
Come on.
Come on.
Her real name is Robin, right?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Why the hell did she take the Rihanna name then?
It's better.
All right.
What do you do for work?
I'm a cardiac physiologist.
Oh, okay.
All right.
What does that entail?
Do you do the duties?
So, we work with patients with known or suspected heart disease.
We do things like program pacemakers, exercise treadmill tests on Premier League footballers.
We put stents in coronary arteries, like people who've presented with heart attacks, and yeah, just like that.
So, like, do, just so I understand, like, so they go see a doctor or a cardiologist, whatever it may be, follow-up care, et cetera, you guys handle that?
And monitoring?
It's the other way.
So, they may go see their general practitioner.
They say the patient presents with two weeks worth of chest pain.
The general practitioner will then triage them to cardiology.
Then the cardiac physiologist, so they'll see a cardiologist just for the general rundown of their medical history.
Then they'll refer them to cardiac physiologists who do all the diagnostic imaging tests, like ultrasounds of the heart.
Gotcha.
And all of that.
Can they prescribe anything?
We cannot.
Okay.
All right.
Because I was trying to figure out the reason why I asked that.
Because in America, we have a profession that's blown up called the physician's assistant.
To replace doctors.
I don't know if that's a thing here in the UK. I was going to apply for that, yes, I'm aware.
So you guys do have that here too?
Very new, yes, compared to America.
Profession exploding because it's too expensive to hire goddamn doctors.
Is that people who can prescribe medication but they're not an actual doctor?
Yes.
Yeah, they are starting to do that, aren't they now?
Yeah, it's more common.
But they're facing a lot of backlash from the actual junior doctors because here the junior doctors, or the doctors in general, they go through at least six years worth of education.
Right.
And as a physician's associate, you do your undergraduate degree, and then you could branch into that in two years.
It's basically a mass degree.
It's like a shortcut.
And a lot of schools have it, because my school had it, where you literally, it's an accelerated program.
You could be done in five and a half, six years, and you'll get out with your bachelor's and with your PA. One shot.
You just hit the worst field.
So I can see why that would piss.
Imagine you go to med school in America, which costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, and this guy's over here prescribing people medicine and stuff like that, just like you would do, and they would have half the schooling you do.
But they do a lot of the doctors, we say, kind of like dirty work.
Oh, you guys do?
Or you mean physicians?
Physicians.
The physician associates, yeah.
So they do all the paperwork and the hard stuff, basically.
Nurse and anesthetist, same thing.
They do a lot of the work for the anesthesiologist, but they make the big money.
Okay, all right.
So you guys do the follow-up care from whatever the cardiologist suggests?
Yeah, the diagnostic care, and then we refer them to whatever they need to write reports to the doctor, and the doctor then does the diagnosis.
All right, cool, cool.
And then highest education?
Bachelor of Science.
Okay.
Um, and then relationship status?
Single!
Alright.
Fantastic.
Are your parents still together?
Um, they split up 2019, but they were married for 30 years, yeah.
Oh, recently?
30 years.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you were, they, okay, they were together your whole adolescence and childhood?
Uh-huh, yeah.
So they got out in your adult life?
Yeah, exactly.
They were very present, both of them, in my, um, household growing up.
Okay.
Uh, birth control?
Nope.
Alright.
What about you?
They're natural, bro.
Yeah.
What about you?
What's your name?
My name is Anna.
Okay.
How old are you, Anna?
I'm 33.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm from Riga in Latvia and also Moscow, Russia.
Okay.
Did you grow up there?
In Moscow and I moved to London when I was 17 to study.
Okay.
So you did high school.
Did you do high school in Russia?
Yes.
Okay.
And then you came here for university maybe?
Yeah.
Okay, but you said Moscow?
Yeah.
Do you have a Russian and a Latvian passport?
Both?
No, just Latvian because they don't allow to have a dual one with Russia.
Really?
Okay, alright.
I chose to keep the European one.
Yeah, you wanted to keep the European one.
Okay, Latvia has a European Union passport.
Yeah.
Okay, that makes sense.
What do you do for work?
I'm a contemporary artist and curator, but mostly artist.
Okay, so what kind of art do you do?
Abstract expressionism.
I have synesthesia, so I paint a lot of sound stuff.
It's painting, but I use sound.
Sometimes I do performances.
Do you get paid for your art?
Yeah.
Good money?
Not yet.
Okay.
And then what was the other thing you said?
You said you're an artist, and you mentioned something else.
I curate exhibitions as well, but mainly...
Curate, I'm sorry, what?
Like, organize exhibitions.
I still run the art show, basically, or hosted.
Oh, okay.
Our exhibitions.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if there's a gallery or something, people want to exhibit their work, you'll organize it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Highest education level completed?
Masters, Fine Art.
And you did that here?
Yeah.
Where'd you get your degree from?
Central St.
Martins.
Wait, Central St.
Martins?
Yeah.
Isn't that an island?
Yeah, I was gonna say, isn't that an island?
Isn't that a Caribbean island?
No, Central Saint Martins.
It's here in London?
It's a famous art school actually.
It's a famous art school here in London?
Yeah, it's well known like art school.
That's why I'm asking these questions because obviously it's a different culture here.
You guys use different terms for professions and stuff so definitely want to make sure I know and the audience knows.
It's probably one of the top schools isn't it actually?
Yeah, but nowhere near as cool as RCA, Royal College of Art, but it used to be really good anyway back when I went.
At least you're certified.
Is that six years in school for that master's I'm guessing?
Or four or five since it's less time here?
Three years BA and two years MA. Relationship status?
Single.
I die alone.
Are your parents still together?
Sorry?
Are your parents still together?
No.
No?
Okay.
Birth control?
I tried it in the past, but it really fucked with my mental health and stuff, so I, like, you know, condoms are good.
Alright, fair enough.
I break you.
Okay.
But you grew up in Russia though, right?
Yes.
Is that where you grew up?
I am actually Russian.
Okay, so you are ethnically Russian.
Okay, fair enough.
And you speak, obviously, fluent.
Okay, both.
Alright, what about you?
What's your name?
Hi Myron, I'm Jennifer.
Okay, how old are you?
Thirty.
Okay, where are you from?
London.
Okay, what do you do for work?
Work in marketing.
I'm sorry, marketing.
Okay.
Social media?
What kind of marketing?
Kind of, yeah.
I work for a private client, so I market for her.
Her company, Finance Events.
It's like a finance events network.
Okay.
All right.
Highest education level completed?
A diploma.
Okay, so that would be the secondary school?
I went to fashion school.
So that would be, what was that term you guys use again?
College.
Yeah.
And that's the 16-18 one, right?
Yeah.
If I'm not mistaken.
To go to uni.
It's before uni.
It's right before uni.
Okay.
So, and then relationship status?
Angle.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
No.
Okay, so that's really sad, god damn.
No!
No sir!
Are they divorced, I'm guessing?
Yes.
Okay.
And then, are you birth control?
No.
Okay.
Wait, am I the only one that's on birth control?
I don't even take it like that, but I'm trying.
We just ask.
It's just what we, yeah.
Okay, what about you?
Oh, sorry.
Oh, hi.
What's your name?
My name is Dinalva.
D-I-N-A-L-V-A. Din Alva.
Din Alva.
That's right.
Okay.
How old are you?
31.
31.
Oh, real quick.
What's your ethnic background?
My mom is Spanish.
My dad is English.
Spain?
Like Spain, Spain?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then English.
All right.
And then you, we know you're Russian.
Okay, Ghana and West Africa, right?
Yeah.
Okay, sorry.
What about you?
You said you're 31.
Where are you from originally?
I am also Angolan-Portuguese.
Are you guys friends?
You guys grew up in London together?
No, I don't know.
We've never met.
I don't know this bird.
Did you grow up in London or in Angola?
I grew up in Portugal.
In Portugal, okay.
Yeah.
Came to England when I was 12.
Okay.
But you went to high school and everything, well, sorry, secondary school and everything here.
Yeah, half there and then the rest here.
And then the rest of my education has been here as well.
Okay, so you probably speak at least, what, three languages, two?
I speak four.
Okay, Portuguese, English, Spanish and French.
And French, okay.
Because Portuguese is very similar to Spanish, right?
Latin roots.
Okay.
What do you do for it?
I am a behavior management educator.
I'm a community empowerment consultant and I also work in production and media with concept development.
Sounds fancy.
So your main gig is behavior management?
Yeah.
Kids, adults?
Young children, yeah, high school level.
When they're having issues, emotional issues, social issues, they come to me and I equip them with emotional management tools and autonomous learning.
Are we talking like teenage kids like in secondary school?
Yeah, from year 7 to year 11.
They go to you for emotional management.
Listen, let me tell you something very interesting.
You know something I don't.
I thought it.
But let me explain something that's so funny.
Do you know why they come to me for emotional composure or emotional, you know, regulation?
Because how many of the super chats hate on me and what do I do?
I sit down and I smile.
I've got the best composure here emotionally, but we'll test that after.
True, true.
Okay.
I'm better than you, mate.
Let's see, mate.
I'll put you to the test, lovely.
So real quick, so I make sure I have this.
You've been kicked out before.
Oh, but that was because King Richard has no...
Wait, let me explain.
The composure.
The composure there was on him.
He was upset with me, so he started to like get riled up and then he said, get out.
I said, okay.
And then he called me an op.
I said, you're an op too.
And then that's it.
So I was composed.
He was not.
He called you a what?
An op.
An op?
She's the op, man.
Opposition.
No, I know that, but that's normally like killing words, right?
Like you shoot your ops.
He thinks he's bad, that's why.
That's normal in London.
Or in this case, you guys snap them.
No, he thinks he's bad.
No, he thinks he's bad, that's why.
Okay, so you guys refer...
Oh, so, okay.
Because in America, if you say, oh, that's the op, that means we're going to shoot him.
Mm-hmm.
Well, I don't know.
Or in this case, you hear you guys stab, but...
I don't know.
Here it's all talk.
Alright, so I guess it's that deep.
Alright.
Okay, so behavior management.
And then you said you do something with production?
Yeah, I work in production with concept development.
So I come up with ideas for shows.
Okay.
And then what was the last thing you said?
Community empowerment consultations.
So anything that has to do with creating bridges of communication between grassroots and organizations.
So putting on projects.
Advising on policies and things like this to make sure that they're doing things that are productive and actually sustainably successful for the community.
Okay.
So you link grassroots?
Yeah.
So I've got three different sectors to what I do.
Okay.
Good job.
Okay.
Highest education level completed?
I've got a master's degree.
Okay.
In?
- United States foreign policy.
- Oh, really? - We could get her advice.
And I got it first class, so maybe you should.
Did you get it here in the UK? Yeah.
They offer?
Okay.
Yeah, because you have to understand the United States is a superpower, so you have to have interest in understanding their foreign policy to understand what happens in the world.
Would you do that?
No, I did at University of Warwick.
Okay.
Okay, question for you.
Let's see how much they taught you in school.
Who runs America?
We're on YouTube.
This is a dating podcast.
Keep it off track here.
Listen, remember, this is the thing.
It's very dangerous to ask me questions because I went to study U.S. foreign policy because to me they are the ops.
I'm Angolan, which means that we have, you know, connection with the Soviet Union from history.
So we have communist sort of like sympathies.
So I went to study U.S. foreign policy to understand my own history.
So I don't really, like, study it because I'm interested in the U.S. It's more to know what did they do to the world.
Okay.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Did you watch the Poon interview?
Oh, I didn't yet.
Oh, you didn't?
Come on, man.
I mean, listen, there's not much more that they can say that is new.
The rhetoric is the same.
Things don't change.
The only thing that's changing now is maybe, like, the political, you know, influence that is going more towards BRICS rather than the Western influence.
But, you know.
Let's just wait for another day.
That's interesting.
U.S. foreign policy.
Okay.
I might.
All right, we're on YouTube, so let's move on.
All right.
We want to get re-modified.
Yeah, yeah, right?
I guess.
I guess.
But we all know.
Okay, and then are your parents still together?
No, my dad passed away when I was 12.
Oh, my condolences.
Thank you.
And then birth control?
No.
Okay.
So they were together when you passed?
Your mom was widowed?
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, dating status?
I don't want to break any hearts, so I can't say it.
You kind of have already.
I don't know.
I just left it ambiguous.
You know, create a mystery.
But there's some guy watching now who's like, well, where do I stand?
And there'll be one watching thinking, oh my god, is she talking about me?
There'll be a few.
Why don't you hear composure?
Just tell us the answer.
Be composed.
What do you mean?
Yes or no?
I mean, my composed answer is, I don't want to break any hearts, so I'm not going to go into that.
You that is watching, it might be you that is the one, or it might not be you, I don't know.
Well, maybe send me a text to find out.
How many hearts potentially could be broken?
This is the energy I'm trying to have.
Donalva, do you want to tell them your plan for what you want to do when you get married?
The houses?
Well, to be honest, this is what I said.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't think that there's a need for a man to be in the house 24-7.
In my culture, a successful man that has a successful, you know, family, most of the time he's working internationally anyway.
So a woman has her own home and he has his own space.
Not that deep.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
See?
Less headaches.
Come on, I'm sure many guys would wish that girls would say these things, because then they can play their games alone, have their own space, and not have headaches all the time.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
Alright, so single.
Fantastic.
You know what that means, right?
I don't want to break any hearts.
How many hearts potentially could be broken?
Are we talking like one, two, three?
Okay, so I have to be very, very honest.
Is there a roster?
Not a roster.
I don't actually entertain men like that, but there's a lot of men that are courting me and they're trying to kind of get me towards that stage.
I love that for you.
Orbiters.
No, but it's annoying at the same time.
It's amazing.
It's fun, because, you know, I can transition into opportunities.
We can just translate the nominees.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
What did you say?
What was your translation?
Friendzone.
Friendzone.
Guys in the friendzone.
More like business zone.
Single, not virtual.
They're paying.
Even worse, Business Zone.
That's even worse.
What about you?
What's your name?
Troy Francis.
Oh no, I was going to say the girl behind you, Troy.
Oh, okay.
We saved the best for last, man.
Y'all two go last.
Absolutely.
What about you?
Yeah, my name is Bebe.
Bebe.
Okay.
How old are you, Bebe?
46.
Okay.
Where are you from originally?
I'm originally from Mauritius.
I'm sorry?
Mauritius.
Mauritius?
Yeah.
Where's that?
It's like, yeah, it's like on the east coast of Africa and there's Madagascar in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
I like Big.
Thank you.
Don't spend attention here.
Madagascar from the movie.
It's next to, yeah, it's next to the Seychelles.
Okay.
The Seychelles Islands.
All right.
What do you do for work?
So I work with...
Young people at risk of exclusion from school.
And I also represent up-and-coming artists in the music industry.
Okay, so you work with troubled youth, probably in the teen years?
Yes.
Alright.
Who's your top artist right now that you're working with?
In the music industry.
I work for a record label as well, part-time, and we manage Big Nasty.
Okay.
Nice.
Alright, cool.
And then, did you grow up in London?
Or in Mauritius.
Where'd you go to secondary school?
Secondary school, London.
Okay.
And then...
Highest education level completed?
I have a teaching qualification from university.
Okay.
It's just like a qualification to teach up to NVQ level 2.
But you got like a degree then?
It's like equivalent of half a degree.
Okay.
Man, the UK is so different.
Okay.
It's so different with the education system here.
It's like they keep them in longer to finesse more money.
Do you guys have to pay for college here?
No.
No.
Oh, it's free still.
We have to pay the debt of Unibot.
No, you pay tuition fees though.
I think you pay for books, right?
And tuition fees?
Pay tuition fees, yeah.
For uni and college.
It really depends on...
But it's cheaper than in the US. Yeah, in uni here, you get student loans that allow you to kind of go to university up until master's level.
They have the same system in Barbados as well.
Barbados is the same thing.
And then you just pay only back maybe £50 after you start making over £25,000 a year.
So it's quite nice.
It's a good deal.
Yeah, like my master's was...
Like $15,000?
Here.
Yeah, compared to like it would be much more.
Way more.
And mine's more expensive because I'm from the U.S. Yeah, you don't get that in-state tuition thing we get in America.
Okay.
I did have a small volleyball scholarship, so it might be a little more.
They make their money from the international students.
They charge a lot more for international students than for U.K. students.
Relationship status with you?
In a relationship.
Okay, how long have you been together?
I don't know.
I don't know.
About 20 years almost.
Wait, how old are you?
I'm 46.
We met when I was 25.
Where'd you guys meet?
When I came back from America, so here in the UK, in London.
Off and on!
She was in a relationship since Linkin Park was popular.
What the fuck?
I tried so hard!
In the end, it doesn't even matter!
20 years, nothing!
Goddamn!
Okay.
Alright, Guest of Honor.
Britney Spears was still making music, I think.
Oh, this is 2004?
Hold on, what's going on?
TI just came out!
Yo!
Yo, no me.
Yeah, man.
Back in the day.
24s.
Damn.
Okay.
Well, we're at 2024 now.
Guest of Honor.
Are your parents still together?
Sorry, last one.
They're not around.
They both passed away.
Oh, my condolences.
And then birth control?
No.
Okay.
I'm not going to really...
Yeah, it's really hard to get pregnant my age.
Fair enough.
Very hard.
Fair enough.
Okay.
And then the guest of honour?
Troy Francis, dating coach, 21 years old.
I'm now back with my girl, so I'm in a relationship as we speak.
So very, very new.
A new one?
No, it's from a previous...
It's from a while back.
Okay.
So we've just reunited.
So I was out with her before the show.
I knew it was going to happen.
Yeah, you kind of knew, didn't you?
He talked about it once.
I think I know.
I'm not going to say it on air because I know you like to keep that.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So we just recently kind of reunited.
Kind of Valentine's kind of thing, you know.
Okay.
Yeah.
After how long?
Three years.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Who reinitiated it?
Yeah.
I kind of reached out.
You put the feelers out.
I put the feelers out.
I put the feelers out.
I sent a little text because it was her birthday.
She responded.
We started talking and one thing led to another.
Of course.
In other words, she couldn't find better than you.
We know what that means.
Well, he messaged her.
Maybe you couldn't find better than her then.
Yeah, but girls are stubborn.
They're not going to message you a lot of the times.
And then did you break up with her?
It was, well, ancient history, man.
It was kind of, I did some things that maybe she wasn't too happy about.
She left Joey.
She couldn't take him having other women.
Okay.
I mean, he's a Chad.
James Bond.
And Pearl.
Hello!
Hey!
Wait, try your own birth control?
As little as possible.
Alright, cool.
Just wanted to check and keep it quality, sorry.
Okay, alright.
Is there even birth control for guys, really?
There is now.
I know there's a pill that they're working on.
I guess you could say, do you like to use...
Condoms?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Fair enough.
So this is a long time coming.
Yeah.
We've been off of the camera together for, what, almost two, three years now?
So this is Welcome Back, Pearl.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
Thank you for opening up your studio for us.
We appreciate that greatly.
Yeah.
Do you want to introduce yourself to the people for those that might not know who you are?
I think they know who you are.
Yeah, so my name's Pearl.
I'm 27.
I play volleyball here in the UK. Other than that, I'm unemployed because I'm demonetized.
What were the other questions?
Dating status?
Yeah, yeah.
I just started dating someone.
You have to tell us.
Is he a member of the BBC gang?
Is he?
Definitely.
You can't keep it to yourself.
Just say it, nigga!
No, no.
He's not black?
No, he's not black.
Is he English?
Is he taller than you?
I don't want the internet to stop.
Is he taller than you?
I don't want to answer a ton of questions just because I don't want the...
And it's new.
The internet will harass them.
So he's a regular guy?
Yeah, he's a normal guy.
And taller than you or what?
We're the same height.
Well, at least...
Does he get angry?
Do you want to speak on that, or no?
It's up to you.
What?
This dude made the reference to angry, you know what that means.
Yeah, like, what do I want to talk about?
I don't know.
Okay, never mind.
Y'all haven't been together in years, right?
Yeah, no, that was like years ago, so...
Move on, move on.
Okay, anyway.
Yeah, what was that?
Birth control.
Birth control.
No, no birth control.
And then your body count.
Y'all got some beavers on?
Like you two?
No, no, no.
We love to hate each other.
We hate to love each other.
Born again virgin, so zero.
Alright, cool.
And obviously you have a YouTube channel as well.
And so do you, Troy.
So guys, go check them out on YouTube as well.
Troy Francis and Pearl.
Yeah, I've got a channel called The Dating Game with Troy Francis that I'm doing with Pearl as well.
Okay, sweet.
Good, good, good.
You guys, obviously you guys are here in London so I might as well work it out.
Cool, so I'll turn it over to actually, we got a question first or I can read the chats?
We can read the chats.
The chats?
Okay, so I'll read some of these chats and then I think, Pearl, do you have the first one or was it with Troy?
I know one of y'all had it.
Do you want to ask a question first?
Yeah, I'll ask a question first.
Okay, you had something?
Okay, if not then I could do it but That's like a standard thing over here.
We always give the guests the first right of refusal for a question.
Okay, why do I gotta read them?
You know why.
Bro, come on, man.
Okay, alright.
Them boys?
Oh, WFNF as always, but quick question.
Why y'all bring this grifter pro on?
Oh, shit.
She made a hit piece on y'all when you guys were at your lowest.
We didn't forget she tried bullying y'all.
Fuck...
Bro, goddamn Dembo, you have anything you want to say that obviously is from Rumble?
No, I mean, I was wrong.
I apologized.
So I will say live on air that I'm sorry for that.
You know, I was wrong.
And guys, we spoke.
She definitely, you know, she's apologized for the better part of year plus, man.
And here's the thing.
I think once it happened to her, too.
Myron hung up on me the first time.
She called me.
I saw this new camera.
I was like, who's this?
And then she was like, oh yeah, it's Pearl.
I just hung up.
But, hey man, like I said, you guys have been asking for it forever, right?
And you guys are like, yo, like, collab with Pearl, blah, blah, blah.
Like, you know, you guys are on the same team, blah, blah, blah.
And, you know, she is doing good.
She's helping a lot of people out.
You're really working on it.
Oh, shit.
I don't know if I should say it out loud.
You're working on something.
Divorce documentary?
Okay, yes.
I've talked about that.
Okay.
Do you want to say something about that real quick?
Well, it's not out yet.
We're working on it.
Okay.
But, like, what does it cover?
Oh, basically just...
I don't know.
When I started this thing and I came on your show three years ago, I didn't understand why men didn't want to get married.
You know, my parents have been married 30 years.
They built a business together.
I really didn't understand it.
And it's just me like researching why that is and like telling stories of men that have really been negatively affected by the court system.
And it's really sad.
You can't hear these stories and not have it change your point of view.
Yeah.
And yeah, I will say Yeah, being put in you guys' shoes, oh my gosh.
Yeah, because everyone turned on you over some bullshit, too, after doing an interview.
Well, and I used to think you guys were really harsh, but it is so hard to control a room.
I used to not understand why you didn't say things nicer, and then I was in your shoes, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is impossible.
Yeah, it's something that very few people will ever understand or grasp, like when you're running a podcast with a bunch of people that aren't creators themselves and don't have mic etiquette, it's a different world, but I mean, I get it.
And there's a bunch of other things, too, that Pearl's been helping us out with behind the scenes.
So, hey, man, it is what it is.
She apologized, guys.
So, it is what it is.
Oh, damn.
ThreeDiglas says, fuck, Pearl.
Well, goddamn, nigga.
What the fuck?
Wait, what did they say?
He said, fuck, Pearl.
Them niggas go in there.
Oh, that's why you don't want me to read this.
That's why you don't want me to read this.
No, it's okay.
They can.
I don't get offended.
For everybody that says, like, F, Pearl, it's funny, because, like, I'd have, like, five or ten people, why did you guys collab?
Blah, blah, blah.
Well, I'll tell you this.
Right now, she's helping us a lot.
This is a big help.
Facts.
Also, I see Pearl and FNF hash things out.
Absolutely, guys.
Actually, I'll tell you guys this.
I buried the hatchet with someone else that you guys may or may not know, so we'll see something coming very soon for y'all.
I'm confused.
Why are you collabing with Pearl?
Help me understand.
Like I said before, she's on the same team, guys.
All loser UK podcast bitches on today.
Goddamn, man.
They talk shit about y'all.
Sunny Thera goes, I'm glad the Ghanaian girl didn't get circumcised.
Sunny Thera again goes, our student means whore in England.
What the fuck, bro?
SussgodFBS goes, yeah, our audience is different, man.
Don't worry, they make fun of us, too.
Sussgod goes, how did y'all find a panel full of ladies just as mid as Pearl?
I love Pearl.
Danava, you're an old crusty horde that overestimates her intelligence, unlike the Ghanaian girl.
I do wish you were circumcised.
What the fuck, bro?
What does he mean by circumcised?
It's Sunny Thera.
Do you know who Sunny Thera is?
I don't know who Sunny Thera is, but I'll tell you something, honey.
I speak different languages.
I can teach you to speak English too, darling.
Durek Meyer goes, let's fucking go.
About time for FNF and just probably things in it.
Meyer going to be taking the piss on these Muppets.
Love you, Pearl.
Keep going bonkers on these whales.
In it.
Yeah, man.
Same team, same fight, bro.
Sometimes we got to put our egos aside.
Jay May goes, it's nice to see the women are just as horrible across the pond just with a shitty accent.
Okay.
And then various layers go, CEO Network, let's go.
And this is why your country is always going through bare shit.
Tell them.
I swear to God.
Tell them myself.
We don't ever go through what you guys go through and look how you guys treat other people and speak to people.
Horrible people.
Nah, for real.
What is this attitude?
Be kind.
You mean America?
Yeah.
Oh, Americans are mean, you mean?
Coming on violence.
I mean, I've met many Americans and I've loved them.
Oh, okay.
And they're real cool.
These comments, I'm just like, they're not even going that hard.
Y'all already getting triggered.
This is awesome.
You guys should see what they say about us, man.
They say it way worse.
Super Chats as well from FNF. It says, Kim Sheldon says, CEO Network Worldwide.
Shout out to you, bro.
Oh, that was just Rumble Rants.
shout out to you Cam2Time says question ladies a man divorces his wife for withholding sex he only had sex twice in two years yeah was he right or wrong for divorcing her and what are y'all thoughts on women withholding sex from men hold on before we ask that Troy or Troy do you guys want to hit a question first Oh, we can start with that.
You want to start with that?
You guys sure?
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay.
All right.
So, long story short, this has been going viral on Twitter because I've been lurking at Twitter quite a bit.
Check me out on there, Unplugged Fidex.
And also check Pearl out on there, too.
She gets a lot.
She'd be going crazy on Twitter.
Yeah.
So, and it's just pearly things on there.
It's pearly things with a Z. Did you change your username?
No, they just didn't have the one I wanted.
They didn't have just pearly things, so I just put a Z on the end.
I was going to make a joke.
In England, they do authorize.
It annoys me.
Okay, I'm going to fucking say it.
You guys spell authorize and stuff like that here in England with an S instead of a Z. Yeah, yeah.
And I was like, what the fuck, man?
Authorised people?
I'm like, what the hell?
They spell things different.
Or flavour.
You guys spell flavour differently, too.
Colour.
Colour as well.
They also have toilets.
I'm like, bro, it's a bathroom.
What's toilets?
And they're called chips.
Crisps.
Crisps.
Yeah, that's right.
Fries called chips.
Yeah.
It's fucking weird, man.
And then you guys call pants, trousers.
And then you guys call sweaters or hoodies, jumpers.
And you guys call knickers and stuff, but you guys say pants.
The worst one is knickers.
The worst one was when I first got here.
People would come up to me and say, are you all right?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not sick.
That's like, how are you here?
Are you all right?
You just don't reply.
It's like, you're right.
Are you all right?
And so I was really confused when I first got here because I'm like, do I look sick?
What's your name again?
Rihanna.
They'd be like, yo, Rihanna's a painting, you know?
So yeah, so it's been going viral on Twitter.
This guy basically divorced his wife because they were together for two years.
No, they didn't have sex for two years.
I think they were together for a total of five, if I'm not mistaken.
But either way, she hadn't given him sex for two years, and what she was doing was when she did offer him sex, he would have to complete chores to do it.
So in other words, she would, you know, You know, you need to pass my compliance test to get sex.
And then he divorced her for that.
Who's in the right and who's in the wrong here?
He's well within his right.
He is in the right.
Let's start here.
What are your thoughts on this?
I think he's in the right.
Unless you're both asexual people and you're not really someone that cares about physical touch and all that, then cool, understandable.
But if a man has got a need just as a woman's got need, and if it's not getting met, you have every right to leave that.
So knowing that, how should he solve the issue without leaving?
Like, how does he get the girl to...
Oh, they could have come to an agreement.
Why not be in an open relationship or have a polyamorous kind of thing and then let him do his thing.
If you don't want to lose him but you're not giving the man what he needs, then maybe change the way.
I think he cheated on her too.
For full transparency, I think he cheated on her as well.
If I'm not mistaken.
Is that why she withdrew sex?
Might have been.
I'm not sure.
Because that plays a factor.
There's always a reason.
That plays a factor.
But what if she's just an asexual?
What if she's an asexual or whatever and she's never really like said anything and before you know it.
I mean twice in two years.
What would be a good reason?
In two years?
She's cheating on him for sure.
She had a headache for two years.
Unless she could.
I don't know.
Even if he was cheating, okay, leave or get over it.
If you do the math, right?
That's 730 days.
Only two days he had sex out of two years.
That's crazy.
And he had to do chores, right?
Yeah.
That's like blackmail.
She hated him.
That's like she hates him.
730 days is insane.
What about you?
He's in the right, wrong.
What do you think?
Yeah, he's in the right.
I don't really know what's going on there.
Even if you cheat on her?
Yeah, because they shouldn't be in a relationship anyway.
Okay.
So even if you cheated on her, he's still on the right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you agree with that too?
I don't agree about cheating, no.
I feel like...
So she's on the right.
Just be honest with your person.
If you really want to step out and just be honest with your person.
I don't agree with cheating because there's always...
You can always communicate.
So she's on the right.
I mean, I would leave a person too if you're giving me twice.
But she stayed with him.
But I feel like she was probably doing something in the background.
What about you?
Who's on the right here?
Her or him?
Probably like Lickbacks.
So, what's Lickbacks?
What's Lickbacks?
He's cheated on her, so he's cheated on her first and ultimately she struggled to be intimate with him.
And she was making him do chores to get sex.
Well I think ultimately in a marriage, marriage is a contract basically, you either agree to abide by it or you don't.
So who's in the right and wrong here?
He's in the right.
He's in the right?
Yeah.
Alright, what about you?
Well, it depends what happened first, so...
You cheat on her.
Yeah, but as in, why did he cheat on her?
In the sense, was she always cold, maybe detached, and maybe not giving him enough attention and love also?
If that's the case, still not a reason to cheat, but at least, you know, you can kind of justify, kind of.
But I agree with everyone else as well that it's better just to communicate and be like, just break out.
So who's not right in this situation?
Nobody.
Well, if you had to pick one, who's more right?
Him leaving or her trying to leverage the sex?
Him leaving.
Well, cheating is horrible in general, so I think then in that case...
She's in the right.
Well, he's in the wrong more, I guess.
What about you?
What do you think?
I don't even know why they're together.
Why are these people together?
So I guess you think the man is right because he ended it?
They shouldn't be together.
This is like so dysfunctional on every level beyond.
They're together now.
What should they do?
Should he...
Well, he left already.
Well, in your opinion...
Because I guess he had no choice, right?
I mean, he had a choice.
I guess he just didn't like it.
Yeah, wait.
Wait, let me catch up.
So she made him do chores, yeah?
Who made who do chores?
Yeah, she made him do chores.
Yeah, see, so...
Again, going back to the dysfunctional...
Okay.
Are you high?
I just gotta ask.
Hey man, I had to ask.
I had to ask.
Okay.
She's tired.
Yeah.
Alright.
What about you?
I think that...
Should you've kept her composure?
Wait.
Well, I haven't even said anything.
Do you see what I mean?
These people come for me.
I can't even talk.
I'm not coming for your people.
Listen, I think that...
So he cheated.
Her way of dealing with it without having to say we're over is...
I don't give you sex and whenever you want it, you do chores.
He couldn't handle any left.
If we go by, you know, what I heard Pearl saying, the Catholic values of marriage, he should not have left.
He should have endured not having sex with his wife, try and communicate through the process because divorce is bad on either side, correct?
So he's wrong.
And I guess, you know, they could have figured it out another way.
She tried to communicate her problems to him through not having sex.
So, I mean, I guess he could have done something before he got to two years without sex or however long it was.
Okay, so...
Is it a fact that he cheated or is that just like...
I think he admitted to cheating on her before and that kind of hurt the relationship a bit.
Oh, then that's understandable.
So it's on...
Okay, so you think that he's more in the wrong...
You think he's in the wrong too?
Well, yeah.
Okay.
I mean, they're both in the wrong, and they're just as bad as each other.
Just one is holding back, and the other one went and did when they've been trifling.
All right.
What about you?
What do you think?
I think, well, if he cheated first, and then his actions caused her to have that reaction like that, to not want to be intimate with him, so I think he should be more understanding to her.
Okay.
Like, he's the reason why she's like that.
She doesn't want to.
All right, Troy, what do you guys think?
I think he was right to leave.
I think he was within his rights to leave.
I mean, I'm not saying he was right to cheat, but the fact is he cheated and then she continued the relationship, but then it seems like she was holding it over him as a kind of a leverage.
So under those circumstances, I think he was within his rights to leave.
I just think if you're gonna, okay, if you get cheated on, it's an L, all right?
It is an L. But, I mean, you can either take it and fix it or leave.
So it's like, why is she staying in the relationship and then holding it over?
And then punishing him.
Yeah, like, that's just spiteful.
For what?
Twice in two years?
That's crazy.
Yeah, what I think he probably did, well, actually, I know he did just by the outcome.
It's amazing how you can, like, see what the outcome is and then know how it got there.
So, like, it's very obvious that he got caught cheating.
Probably groveled back.
Please don't leave me.
I'll do anything.
And she goes, anything?
And then whenever you...
You know what I'm saying?
And this is why I tell guys all the time, if you get caught cheating, don't ever fucking apologize.
I know some of you guys might think that's toxic or whatever.
No, no, no.
You need to take accountability and responsibility with the shit that you do.
Let me finish my point.
Let me finish my point before you guys become, you know, all triggered.
Don't apologize.
And the reason why you don't apologize is because when you apologize, it gives the woman leverage.
And then now you're like, oh, I'll do anything to keep you.
And then automatically the power shifts from you, if you had it, to her.
And then she's going to start to dictate things.
And here's the problem.
Women are emotional.
So when they're emotional, they're going to make your life a living hell.
They're going to want to know where you are all the time.
They're going to be raging bitches.
They're going to be annoying.
They're going to be crass.
They're going to lose respect for you.
They're going to talk to you crazy.
They're going to think that they can belittle you.
So what ends up happening when you apologize...
Is you lose the leverage.
And once you lose the leverage, you lose the respect.
Once you lose the respect, then that's when you start losing sex anyway like this guy did.
And then you start losing everything else that comes with it.
You lose frame when you do that.
So if you get caught cheating, the worst thing you can do is sit there and say, please don't leave me and cry and beg for her back.
Just say, hey, it is what it is.
Take it or leave it.
And that's how you gotta approach it.
And women never leave anyway.
That was the biggest red pill.
I swear.
I swear because you guys, I don't remember what you guys said when I came on your show, but I don't remember the exact conversation, but I couldn't believe in my year of interviewing people, I would always ask girls if after they caught their boyfriend cheating or their husband cheating, whatever, if they stayed, and it was like 90% of the time, they said, yeah, they never leave.
Can I ask a question?
If a girl cheats, should she apologize?
Yes.
And then here's the thing, you know what makes it even funnier?
She should apologize, but then you don't accept it and you walk away anyway.
You know what the crazy thing is?
You say men have the power but what I've noticed in our culture as well is women actually tend to have more power but you always respect your man and there's always a respect between two people and that is something healthy and I feel like the power should be split equally so sometimes a woman has to take 80 the man gives 20.
Sometimes the man is the one that gives 80 and the woman gives 20.
If the roles can reverse But as long as you've got something healthy I feel like it should always be an equal thing, but what I've noticed is women always tend to have more power.
A woman can look at her man and he will know straight up.
Let me stop talking.
In what sense do you mean?
Let me stop drinking too much because I'm drinking too much.
What I've seen, especially in my family, in my culture, the women have the most power, but we will respect our man and we make sure we take care of our man.
As long as you are respectful to us and you're taking care of us, we take care of you.
But the one that rules the house, the bills and everything like that, it's always a woman because we don't spend recklessly.
I've noticed that in Asian households as well.
The woman is always the boss.
Is that though because the guys feel that they haven't got options to, you know, they feel that they're beholden to that woman because they don't have any options?
No, it's not that.
They just feel like the woman is the head of the house.
She's got her head screwed on so she controls.
And when a man actually looks at his woman, that's my queen.
That's my rock.
They're going to treat that woman that way.
And they're not going to do anything to put her in a position of jeopardizing their relationship.
So therefore, she holds a certain power to an extent and vice versa.
But the woman tends to take care of her.
But that's because the woman, especially the Portuguese woman, and even the Angola woman, they're very kind of subservient to their men in the sense of, They'll do anything.
They'll cook.
They'll take care of him.
It's honey, honey, honey.
Especially the Portuguese woman, which means that as the man, you are so comfortable and so attached to that woman that actually you will respect her.
Anything that she says, she'll have.
And that's how it is.
So that's what she means in terms of power.
And in terms of like managing the house, the woman is kind of like the one that sorts everything.
The man just puts the money on the table and she sorts it out.
Excuse me?
Y'all been drinking?
What power are you talking about?
What power?
I'm referring to the power in terms of whatever she's talking about, in terms of having, like, control within the household.
So, Portuguese women, especially, they're quite strong.
And it doesn't mean that they belittle their man.
It just simply means that the man is very happy to just let her do her own thing.
Because he knows that she's not going to go out there being trifling.
And if a man ends up being travelling, ooh, us Angolan and Portuguese women, we switch.
That's interesting.
It's very different in Ghanaian culture.
And it's very different in Arabic culture as well.
Like the man's always the boss.
Yeah, yeah.
So like in Ghana, like we, I'm probably the same in Nigeria, like We expect men to cheat.
And I think it's a bit of a toxic trait because they could get away with a lot.
So West African women, African women in general, are quite subservient, cooked clean, were trained in how to look after men.
We're taught also that men have needs.
They look elsewhere, et cetera, et cetera.
The man, if there's a mutual respect, then a lot of women come to the conclusion that he's going to cheat anyway.
So just stay quiet and you know, they live happy lives.
In African culture?
Yes.
Well, you have some women here saying that they're not going to accept that.
I said Portuguese.
I'm from Ghana.
So Ghana, Nigeria.
What do you think is the more conducive?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
What do you think is the more conducive strategy to keep a man?
Their strategy of flipping out if you get cheated on?
Or yours where it's like, well not yours, but like your culture where they kind of just accept it and kind of know what comes with the territory?
In Ghanaian culture, marriage is held very highly.
So if you're not married after a certain age, it gets embarrassing.
What's that age?
Now it's changing because we're conforming to the West a little bit more.
30?
I would have said 30, but now people are trying to copy American values a lot, especially the Ghanaian, Nigerians.
So right now you would say it's maybe around 30?
I'd say it's around 30.
Okay.
They'll be asking questions.
They'll start looking at you crazy if you're single at 30.
Yeah.
Okay.
What do you think is more conducive to a successful relationship though?
Which strategy?
Flipping out on your man and getting caught?
Staying quiet.
Staying quiet you think is better?
I don't think it's better.
Raise of hands.
Who agrees with her?
I don't think it's better, but this is just what I know.
For the relationship to last?
For the relationship to last, yeah.
Who agrees with her?
Nobody.
Wow.
Interesting.
Yeah, because there's ways of cheating as well.
Yeah, so I think it's the way the man cheats as well.
So, if he's doing it, respect.
I don't believe there's a respectful way of cheating.
But if he's doing it quietly, not showing his mistress around, you know, not taking her...
I would say it depends on the man.
Are you saying it's better to do that or it's not?
I'm not saying it's better.
I'm just saying what's in Ghanaian culture.
But he's asking what's better to keep a man and stay in a marriage.
And that's what I believe is better to stay in a marriage.
Do you think it's foolish?
I feel like I'm kind of with you but it depends on the man.
It's not what I would do.
It's not what I've done.
I would leave.
I've done that in the past.
This is just what's gone in.
Because I can't mentally handle it.
So Pearl was saying, you either accept it or don't.
And I know I'm the sort of person that I keep replaying it in my mind.
So it's better for both of us to go our separate ways and just live our lives.
I'm not going to make him suffer.
I did it before where I listened to family members.
I was married.
Oh, you were married?
Yes, yes.
So I listened to family members.
Oh, he's a man.
He's gonna, you know, blah, blah, blah.
But it got to the point where I was holding a grudge.
I was angry, you know, and it also did continue.
So second time I was just like, You know, I've gotta go.
Real quick, how old was he?
25.
We got married pretty young.
And how old were you?
Yeah, 24 and 25.
Okay, what did he do for a living?
I don't want to say too much.
He was in the military.
British military?
Yes.
High ranking?
No.
Working his way up?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not familiar with how British military works.
Would it be the equivalent maybe to being an officer?
Like higher up?
No, no.
He enlisted or did he go to college first?
He enlisted.
He wasn't in the military for very long.
But yeah, I knew the kind of person I am.
I wouldn't be able to handle it.
Was he tall?
Yeah.
How tall was he?
6'1"?
Okay, 6'1".
Yeah, I'm 4'11", so it's a big...
Okay, how much was he earning back then, roughly?
I didn't ask him this.
It's military, so it's going to be standardized.
Yeah, I don't know.
I didn't ask him.
You didn't know what your husband was earning?
I didn't ask him.
I think it's not...
I didn't want to ask him, no.
She probably makes more than him, that's why.
I've never asked a guy what they earn.
No, I don't.
But you have to have an idea.
You have to have an idea.
I earned more than him, yes.
You earned more than him.
Okay, interesting.
That's why you don't ask.
Don't ask because I don't want you to know, baby, that I know I earn more than you.
Now, let me ask you this, though.
Right now, I don't know if it's been a while.
It's been, yeah, a few years.
Has he earned more than you now?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Was he, like, a good-looking guy?
Yeah, I'd say so.
I chose him, so it has to be.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Interesting.
Someone else had something that they wanted to say?
So none of you would accept, obviously all of you disagree with the whole...
I do have something to say.
I would say it really depends on kind of where you are in life.
So for example, in African culture, right?
You can have like 10 children with the same woman, but then it gets to a point where the woman, number one, she's tired, she's taking care of the kids, she's busy, she's doing her own thing, that's your wife, right?
So you, as a high-value man, especially because I'm talking from the perspective of successful men, okay?
You can go outside, you're doing your business meeting, you're doing all this.
Girls are part of the entertainment.
And the thing is, and what I've noticed from observing this sort of situation is that the respect comes from the fact that the woman remains the queen and the it.
That's it.
You don't disrespect.
The girlfriend could never come chat to the wife, ever in her life.
And he would never, ever even leave a whiff of the fact that he's got maybe a girlfriend or a girl that entains him through these things.
Now, I say that and I know that to be the case because I have like...
Ten siblings.
Out of my mum, we're only four.
And there's different baby mothers.
Because I understand how men just will move on, especially as their women get older and older.
And not only that, African men have got hot blood.
So they can't contain it.
And then clearly they just haven't got good...
Manah, listen, Angolan men, let me tell you.
Manah, listen, Angolan men is a very known...
They're trifling!
That's why you don't go for Angolan men.
You leave it out.
And that is mostly in most African cultures because it's something that's been perpetuated.
And that's what I think is wrong.
See, now kids are growing up thinking, oh yeah, in my African culture, it's okay for me to do this at some point to my baby mum or to my wife because she's tired or whatever and I'm out here still.
That's not okay and that's one thing that needs to really be decoded from these generations.
No matter what culture you're in, no matter what it is, if it's not part of your...
I know that there's a culture where men have multiple wives.
I can't remember which one it is.
Middle Eastern, yeah.
But I just think if you're in a relationship, be loyal.
If you don't want to be in a relationship, Don't be in a relationship.
Do you see what I'm saying?
If you want to go out and have your fun, go and have your fun, but don't be having someone else in the back you're committed to, and they're thinking, and they're being 100% loyal to you, and you're out here being a trash.
Absolutely.
I'm disrespecting.
Okay, so to me, just so I make sure I understand everyone's stances here.
So you understand it.
You don't agree with it.
You don't agree with it at all.
You're saying that you understand that men are going to do it if they have money.
Even men with money have respect.
Especially men with money are the ones.
Because men with money are the ones, like I said, men with money are usually the ones that are out of the home.
Because they're doing their own things.
They're mostly also amongst men.
And then when men are all men, nobody wants a sausage fest.
There's a girl to entertain.
Do you know what I mean?
And it just happens like that sometimes, I think.
But not every man.
So would you accept that from a higher status guy?
You.
This is the thing.
I'm not looking for that type of man.
I'm looking for a different type of man.
I like...
Guys that you say I don't want to break hearts of?
No.
The person that I will end up with will be a very quiet person.
That's it.
Interesting.
Composed.
Because it's like she's almost setting it up where it's like, yeah, the person I will end up with, which is like she's already pre-setting like, I need to get my fun now before I go with the boring guy.
No, no, no, it's not that.
I actually like quiet people.
This is the thing.
So why aren't you with them now?
What's stopping you from being with them now?
Because you don't rush these things.
You do not like quiet people.
I met your friend group.
No, listen, this is the thing.
My friend group is not my man, is it?
If I wanted to date my friends, I'd be with them.
I think you want someone who grounds you.
Yeah, I want the opposite of me because I'm quite talkative.
I want somebody that's quiet, that's not bothered by me being able to just have a light on me all the time.
Are you looking for somebody who's going to be submissive to you?
No, I'm just looking for somebody that's so comfortable that he doesn't even need to talk.
To be honest, opposites do work really well together.
So it sounds like you're done all the talking, he's just sitting there...
No, I just...
I'll explain to you what I mean, okay?
The type of man that I like is the type of man that can walk down the street and every single man will look at him and be like, yeah, that's the guy.
He doesn't have to talk.
That's the type of man that I like.
But he's also incredibly submissive in a relationship.
No, that doesn't mean submissive in a relationship.
That means that you're quiet enough, even me.
If every guy, you're walking down the street and you need to talk and everybody can recognize your power, how am I, as a woman, not going to recognize him?
That's what I mean.
I want a man that is able, with just his presence and his energy, to not even have to talk just to set his masculinity, just by being there.
There's guys that can do that.
Okay, so you do understand.
You made a very interesting point.
Do all of you agree with you?
You want a guy that other men respect like that?
Yeah.
Okay, so you guys understand that the metric that men use to respect each other is far different than what you guys use to respect each other, correct?
Yeah.
Because women respect each other based on beauty.
Right?
Oh, and status and all of the...
No, you guys respect each other on beauty.
You guys don't give a fuck about status.
Like, for example, if Oprah Winfrey walked into a room with a bunch of Instagram models, no one gives a...
They might be like, oh, cool, Oprah Winfrey's in here.
But at the end of the day, the most attractive woman understands that I'm the most attractive and she has the most status in that room because...
We don't like from a sexual market value standpoint, right?
So like you mentioned that you want a guy that like he could walk into him and other men respect them, right?
Well, men respect competence and meritocracy.
We don't respect the same things that you guys do and a lot of that comes down to your ability to earn money.
Yeah So if you want a guy that could command the respect of other men, that means he has to be extremely accomplished, and he's probably a high earner, which means he's gonna come with other women, too.
Okay, can I tell you something?
So, for example, me, a lot of the men that I do know, they are extremely respected, especially in their community, and not because they're rich, because they're real men.
And why aren't you with them?
Okay, what did I say about my relationship status?
Did I tell you I was single?
Did I tell you I was dating one?
I left it ambiguous for a reason.
You don't like him enough to just say, no, I'm taken.
Listen, you're talking smoke without actually even asking me the right questions.
Because if you ask me the right questions, you would know the answer to all of this.
If you really like him, why would you want to leave it ambiguous?
Yeah, that's true.
Because you have to take time to get to know someone.
You can like someone and then boom.
Before you know it, they might move wrong, they might do something wrong, whether you're together or not.
Why are you not married to the guy that you're dating?
That small thing, you're doing that before we're even together.
That means when we're together, you're going to do some shit.
Wait, Pearl, Pearl, why are you only dating him?
Why are you not married to him?
Are you not Catholic?
You're taking too long already.
It's pretty soon.
Should I require marriage already?
Well, you should, isn't it?
I think you should.
If you do, I'll do my...
I mean, what would the tricode say?
If you marry, I'll commit.
No, well, my question, because like I said, you said you want a guy that can command respect from other men, and a big component of being able to command respect from other men a lot of times, well, not even a big, it's the main thing, it's competence, and a lot of times your competence is shown through your ability to earn resources and currency, right?
Not just that.
It's a big component.
I know, but also it comes down to physical abilities.
If you're a guy that is very dangerous, most guys will respect you even out of fear.
To a degree, yes.
Listen, I'm going to tell you something, right?
My dad was a very powerful man and very, very dangerous.
Okay?
So what I think...
So would you be with a broke MMA fighter?
You wouldn't be broke, especially not being with me.
So money does matter to you then?
No.
He wouldn't be broke.
Do you really think that if you're going to be my man, I'm going to let you be broke.
You're going to be next to me.
He's going to change, right?
Listen, it's not about me not wanting a broke man, but I think this is a mentality that you guys...
She said money didn't matter that she said I don't want a broke man.
No, I said he's not going to be broke.
And I'll tell you why.
This is why I say Myron has the patience of a saint.
But you kind of said before that you weren't looking for a high-value man, and then you describe a high-value man.
Now, what for you?
Every time I try to speak, you cut me off, and you interrupt me.
Well, not really.
Well, you're doing it now.
Right?
Basically, what I'm saying is, this is the kind of behavior that you guys kind of show on these cameras and then it corrupts women.
Because as a woman, it shouldn't matter how much money your man's got right now.
You should be looking at his mentality because you could start with somebody who has nothing and tomorrow it could be somebody.
So I don't think about money when I go for somebody.
I look at how competent they can be.
I look at their mindset.
That's the exception, not the rule.
When someone has ambition, someone has goals, someone has a drive, they're not broke.
Broke is all in the mindset.
I've met people that are rich, but they've got a broke mindset.
But you don't want to be Barbara the Builder, though.
No, of course not.
A lot of men, they leave once they get to the point they want.
Audience, pay attention to this.
I want the audience to really pay attention to this.
Audience, pay attention to this.
Go ahead, continue on, ladies.
I'll let you out.
And then I'm going to break down what's going on here.
Because this is literally like a fucking experiment in female psychology right now.
What's going on?
Continue.
So you're saying...
You don't want to be Barbara the Builder because men are very clear about what they want.
They're very clean cut.
Women are more like, oh, you know, I love him.
I'll stay with him.
Oh God, all these memories.
We accept potential and we should be taking people for who they are.
When a man is done, he's done.
When he gets to that...
So, basically, we, as you said, date for potential.
Like, men...
They see shit they don't even see within themselves.
Exactly.
When they get to the point they want to get, they have access to the ladies that they wanted when they were broke, but couldn't get them.
And then they ditch their women.
It happens so many times, over and over again.
And you see examples in the sports world...
And then after they're crawling back to that woman, and they're like, I'm so sorry.
After the new woman's rinsed all the money.
Can she finish your point?
Yeah, sorry about that.
God damn, nigga!
No worries.
No, I appreciate the input, but yeah, no.
That's literally all I wanted to say.
Don't be Barbara the Builder.
Don't date for potentials.
Let me ask real quick, we're on the panel on this one.
If you're with a man in a serious relationship, would you want to pay the majority of the bills, yes or no?
Just a very simple question.
Just say no.
It's okay to say no if you want to say no.
No, because my mind goes two sides to this.
You want to be 50-50?
One side of me is that I don't mind going 50-50, but at the end of the day, I like a man that actually takes care of shit.
And I just like top it up and I make sure that everything is nice.
So you don't want to go 50-50.
Fantastic.
No, not really.
Okay, what about you?
Absolutely not.
Okay, what about you?
Half and half.
You'll go 50-50?
Yeah, half and half.
You go 50-50 with your ex-husband?
I've done both in relationship.
I was a housewife.
I've had experience being everything paid for.
I didn't work for a while.
And then I've had experience with contributing...
Both failed.
Well, I'm sat here saying I'm single.
Fantastic.
Which one was better for you?
The 50-50 or relaxing?
It's complicated because when I was cooking, cleaning, fine, I'm happy to do that.
When I didn't have any money to contribute, the power dynamics change.
It's not saying I should have more power because I'm a woman, he should have more power because he's a man.
There needs to be an equilibrium.
And when I assumed the role of not having it, well, the complete traditional housewife, the equilibrium shifted to him.
But he gave you money when you wanted it, right?
Well, it got to a point where I had to beg him for simple things.
Such as?
Just to do my nails.
Do my nails.
Get certain things that I needed.
It got to a point where it was like...
Please sir, can I have some more?
Did he just not have it like that?
So yeah, they abuse it sometimes.
He didn't have it like that?
Say again?
He didn't have it like that or he was just a cheapskate?
He was quite a resourceful man.
He had plans to save a certain amount a month.
I'm not a high-maintenance person.
I don't do my nails, don't do much.
I wasn't asking for much, let's just say.
What about you?
Would you want to pay a majority of the bills when you're dealing with a man?
No.
No?
50-50?
No?
so maybe a bit less than I would want to pay a bit less also because yeah because this is hilarious you ask a russian woman a question like this she'll know what to say yeah wait what 50 50 what is that i break him yeah what about you no no you would not do it what about you would you go 50 50 or no would you want to pay a majority of the bills If it's temporary, I don't mind.
Okay, so not long term?
No, not long term.
Would you even be okay with 50-50?
Depends.
It's temporarily as well because remember in life as a woman you have different moments where you're not able to contribute.
So you have to be able to go up and down and adapt.
So temporarily, okay.
What about you?
Which is a no?
No.
Okay.
So, you know, this perfectly proves what I said because a lot of you guys were saying, like, I look for ambition, I look for that, blah, blah, blah.
But when I asked you guys would you be okay, right, with paying a majority of the bills, all of you said, no, I want the man to do that.
Most of you don't even want to go 50-50.
And I say this quote, a lot of girls get mad when I say it, but I say it all the time.
All women are gold diggers.
Some are just better at hiding the shovel.
And what I mean by that is they'll dress it up in terms like, broke mindset.
I don't want to be a Bob the Builder woman.
I want to have ambition, whatever.
The reality is, the bottom line is, it all comes down to their ability to create resources either now or in the near future.
That's why you said temporary.
Ambition.
Yes.
So, whether you guys want to admit it or not, women like to dress up finances in other terms to not come off as gold diggerish, but all women are gold diggers to a degree.
Somebody's better at hiding this shit.
Why is that a problem, though?
No, but that's not really being a gold digger.
I never said it was a problem.
That's not a problem.
The problem lies in this.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
The problem, the problem...
The problem isn't that women are gold diggers.
I understand your guys' nature.
The problem is that you guys deceive and lie to make it seem as you are not gold diggers.
That's like me saying...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me give you the functional equivalent.
Let me give you the functional equivalent.
That is the functional equivalent to me saying, I'm your friend.
I'm okay with being friends with you.
But then as soon as I get a chance, I try to sleep with you.
That's annoying, isn't it?
How many of you have had a guy that tried to sleep with you that was in a friend zone?
Probably all the time, right?
No, not really.
I have a lot of male friends.
I think my friends are scared.
I have an applause.
They're probably scared.
The point is that once they make that move, right, and they hide it, you lose respect for them because they hid their dick.
They weren't straight up about it, right?
So my thing is, women try to sit there and hide the fact that they are hypergamous.
They do care about money.
They are gold diggers to a degree.
To a degree, yes.
Right?
To a degree.
But they'll dress it up and say some bullshit like ambition or I want them with a good mindset or I want to be a go-getter.
It all comes back to money at the end of the day.
Which is fine!
It's an innate quality of a woman to be looked after.
A man should want that in a woman as well.
Hold on, hold on.
No, we don't give a fuck about your money.
That's a lie.
No, but a man should want a woman that is ambitious.
You want a woman that's ambitious.
Women are not direct with what it is.
They say dumb shit like that instead of saying, I just want a motherfucker to take care of me.
You guys don't want to admit it.
But when I asked y'all, do you want to pay a majority of the bills?
All of you said no.
Most of y'all don't even want to do 50-50.
Byron, I'm curious.
Do you think...
Because we keep seeing women with all these useless jobs that pay a ton of money.
So do you think in the future it's going to be...
Do you think it's going to increase the amount of women who are paying the majority of the bills?
Because I was looking at...
I don't know if you saw that thing on Twitter the other day where it was like, Women are earning men.
So how do you see that?
What do you think is going to happen in the sexual marketplace?
I think it's going to get worse.
What I think is that more women are going to be single and they're going to just recreationally have sex like they're doing now but at a higher level.
We're changing roles.
You men are becoming more masculine.
Women are so happy being alone these days because we don't need to settle.
We don't need to settle.
They're proving my point right now.
No, but here's the problem.
We have all these useless jobs that are overpaid, so we think we're more competent than we are.
We're really not.
Like, I'll give you an example.
A diversity and inclusion officer is paid $15 to $17 an hour.
Let's just be honest.
A woman typically has that role.
I mean, come on.
And a firefighter is paid the same amount of money.
Which one's more useful?
Yeah, but they're paid the same.
So women think, we think we're more important than we are.
You know what's going to happen though?
What's going to happen is there's going to be a greater increase between the haves and the have-nots in the sexual marketplace.
That's what's going to happen.
So what's going to happen is the elite are going to be getting a larger slice of the pie and everybody else is going to be getting less.
Because women are not going to Settle.
They said it a second ago.
Exactly.
You can say the role is shifting and women are earning more, so therefore it's going to shift and women are going to be the higher rate.
But women aren't going to respect a dude, like, ultimately long-term, who is earning less, okay?
So in the end, what it means is that it's going to be the guys who are earning more, the guys at the top level, who are going to be getting a bigger slice of the pie.
That's what I mean.
So when they talk about cheating, like, do you understand what the world is going to look like in 10 years?
50% of women between the ages of 25 and 45 are going to be single and childless.
Like, I mean, think about it.
If you're married, there's going to be so many women throwing themselves at your husband if he's a half good looking, decent earning guy.
And over a certain age, women accept being a side chick.
I mean, they won't publicly say that.
But over a certain age, I mean, women, I think it's around like 35.
They'll accept being a side chick because they would rather be with the top guy than be with the guy they don't like.
It's just younger.
We won't say it, but I mean, who here's been in a situationship?
Yeah.
Okay, she hasn't, but it's common, right?
She just didn't know.
She wasn't one.
What is the situation, Chip?
I mean, it's a side check.
It's like, we're together, but we're not together.
Myron and Fresh are one of the few guys that are actually honest about what's going on, because so many guys cap about this stuff.
So many guys cap.
I'm monogamous.
You were trying to say something?
Yeah, I was gonna say that for me, I don't necessarily agree on the money thing.
Actually, money doesn't bother me much.
What I want...
Hold on, hold on.
Why is it that I can't finish speaking before you guys even say anything?
I didn't say a word.
No, because you need to understand that when you think like I do, you have an introduction, a middle, and an end.
So let me give you my introduction, then give you my middle, then give you my end.
Just give us the cliff notes.
So, I beg.
I want just simply for a man, for the man that I choose to be with, to be superior to me.
So that I can respect him.
And that means intellectually, physically...
Emotionally, you know?
Emotionally, it's okay.
It's okay.
I can be more emotionally intelligent than him.
Financially too.
And financially, this is the reason why, wait, I haven't finished.
And financially, the reason why I actually don't care whether or not you have got money right there and then is because if you are intellectually superior to me, and politically superior to me, but this is the thing.
If you treat me nice, if you treat me nice and they need to hit these boxes, I don't care if you got money because at some point we're going to make it.
I would rather, I'm not going to lie to you.
I've experienced- You know that so many guys don't make it.
Not everybody makes it.
Listen, that's okay.
That's okay.
And that's the pessimism that will get people to not actually go for men that are really nice, but unfortunately they may have hit a bump on the road and you're judging them because they ain't got thousands in their pocket, but tomorrow they could.
But Denelva, we already covered this.
Myron's already talked about potential.
You're just describing potential.
You're describing a guy who will at some point hopefully make it.
And he treats me good, so I don't mind.
Okay.
What if he never makes it?
So that means that money does matter.
No, it simply means that I don't really care if you make it or not.
First and foremost, what I care about is, are you nice to me?
Do you treat me nice?
And the reason why I care about this is because someone was very not nice to me, so I want the opposite of that.
And I want somebody that is also very- Wait, wait, wait, Denalva, Denalva, how long were you with him?
Five years, bro.
By your own admission, you're saying you don't care about money, right?
No, initially I don't really care.
But then you're also saying if there's potential and ambition, then one day he's going to get there, right?
Yeah, he's going to get there.
So on some level, you're saying the same thing.
It's the same thing.
Okay, that's fine.
But the potential, that's you're talking about financial potential.
I don't care about the financial potential as much because there's such That's the things that I actually prioritize beyond financial.
Because let me tell you something.
Let me tell you.
I work hard!
Which means I can actually give myself things.
So I'm very fortunate to be able to prioritize other things before finances.
Like how well do you treat me?
How intelligent can you be?
With all due respect, this is why we don't respect women's opinions.
Because, and I'm going to be very honest here.
You're an educated woman too.
You don't make sense.
You're contradicting yourself all over the place.
On one hand, we asked you, does money matter?
Then you go and say no.
And we're like, oh!
Then you go ahead and perfectly describe the traits and potential to make money in the future.
So, money does matter, but what you're doing is what a lot of women do.
You're dressing up something that is unflattering to hear, I care about money, and you're trying to conceal it in the cloak of potential, which is what a lot of women do.
But this is what I mean when I say females in general have an issue with being direct and saying what is really on their minds or what they really want, because if women were honest and said what's really on their mind or what they really want, you would look like shit.
You would look like shit.
If you said, I want a guy If women were honest about what they really wanted in men, which everything I just described is what women want, we wouldn't fucking respect y'all, which is why, hold on, which is why you guys can't be honest because the things that women are Actually aroused by and attracted to, don't sound good when said out loud.
Matter of fact, when I described all these things, all of you were uncomfortable.
Because you guys know deep down I'm fucking right.
But men are very direct about what they want in women.
Yes, because you guys are dumb.
In terms of looks, we don't want anyone's fat.
We're direct.
The reason why, and we're directing you guys, still don't get it.
Or actually, you know what?
Let me stop.
Men are direct.
Men are direct with other men, but they can't afford to be direct with women because your guys' feelings get in the way.
So they're not direct with women.
You guys play a lot of games as well.
You guys do this thing.
Yeah.
Where you'll play a game and all that shit, but really, you just wanted that one thing.
And more time, you could have just been honest.
There are some females out here that you can literally just be directed with.
I'm not going to lie, I just want a Lincoln thing.
But they're scared.
And then, at the end of the day, you will get way more respect.
Are you fucking a guy that comes up to you and says, look, I have zero intention of actually having a relationship recording you.
I just want to have sex with you.
Fuck him.
No, because...
Okay, okay.
Would you?
That's not my intention.
Absolutely not.
But it's not my motive.
What about you?
Guy comes up to you.
Depends.
I just want to have sex with you.
I'm not going to court you or take you on a date.
I just want to fuck, come over at six.
Are you going?
Depends how he goes about it.
But yes, if I'm not looking for him...
If I'm not looking for something...
Hold on, hold on.
Relax, relax.
If I'm not looking for a relationship with that person, I could still have fun.
Okay, what's the chances of you saying yes?
20%, 50%, 90%?
Sometimes you want to have fun as well, you know?
Okay, give me a percentage of this sometimes.
I mean, also 50-50.
Okay, 50-50.
Would it be fair to say that that 50-50 is very contingent upon his physical looks and his ability to convey it in a certain way?
He's got to be attractive.
He's got to be that type of guy for you to do it, right?
Personality as well.
Hold on.
She's answering.
Well, it's looks, personality, intellect.
He's got to be good looking.
Well, yeah.
Okay, interesting.
That's a minority of men.
What about you?
No.
You're not fucking him, right?
What about you?
Are you mad?
Of course not.
No.
Okay, what about you?
So a majority of you said no.
Congratulations, that's most women.
So we can't be honest.
One second, this is why I said, let me give you an example.
I will respect you all if you just told me what it was.
Can I give the example?
Can I actually give it?
And this is actually something that I've been through.
This is actually something that I've been through and it's legit.
But then you guys complain about low body counts, but then you want women to sleep with you for free.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Shut up for a second.
Hold up.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Sorry.
Hold on.
I've actually been with someone.
You gotta chill out for two seconds.
You gotta chill out real quick.
I'm chilled.
No, you weren't chilled to her.
Yeah, don't tell her to shut up.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
It's her studio.
Yeah, what the fuck, man?
No, I wasn't.
So, okay.
You can go ahead and make your point, and then you can make your point after.
Because you had something, right, Miss Morocco?
All right, so, go ahead.
What were you going to say?
So I've actually been with someone and we straight up just said to each other, we've known each other for time and we was like, look, we don't want anything serious.
Like it's just a linking.
So we do our bits, but we're respectful.
We had like a nice little arrangement to it and all that shit and we kept it calm.
We kept it stepping.
If any of us got with anyone else, we was very honest with each other.
Now that is when two mindsets actually collide.
Repeat what you said.
The first sentence you said.
Repeat the first sentence you said.
I've known you for a while.
Exactly.
Yo, so chat, I want y'all to see this.
Hold on, hold on, stop one second.
This is what I mean when I say like...
But you wouldn't do that with a stranger.
You wouldn't...
Nigga, we said that at the very beginning.
You met for the first time.
Incredible.
Sorry, my bad, I didn't hear that.
Yo, we're in the UK, bro.
And it's still the same shit, nigga.
Bro, for all you bitch ass niggas watching the show, it's the same fucking shows.
No Miami girl, bro.
- Damn, I didn't get that far, no. - It's the same shit, yo. - And the thing is London is such an international city, so you get girls from Italy, you get girls from Brazil, you get girls from all over the world, it's the same.
You guys are actually kind of gassed because you're talking shit like that.
But when you are telling me about a man being broke, I simply told you I don't care about money and I don't really expect you to put me in those categories.
I'm telling you right now, I am the daughter of a woman that raised four daughters on her own, which means that I was taught to not give a damn about money from men.
And I was provided for by a man.
I actually don't need a man to give me money.
So when I'm looking for a man, I actually don't care about money.
I get what you're saying.
You just said a second ago, you literally just said you don't want to pay a majority of the bills and you don't want to go 50-50.
What's required for you to not go 50-50?
What's required for you to not go 50-50?
Let me tell you why I said that because I made sure I added this at the end because as a woman my life will have to adapt and go through different moments because for example women you have children which means that you're not going to be in a position to pay bills 50-50 Because you may be off work, especially if, let's say, you have three, four kids in a row.
You cannot help, so you cannot do 50.
That doesn't refute the bottom line that you're going to have kids.
It also tells you, listen, listen, listen.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, you're going about kids, but I'm telling you why I said that I would only temporarily do something.
Yo, look, look.
Do you not understand, when you're making, when you're arguing or whatever, like, Or making a point.
The why is irrelevant.
I'm still correct.
You're saying, well, I'm going to have a kid.
That's why I don't want to pay 50-50.
Fantastic.
That's cool.
We understand that that comes with the situation.
But that doesn't refute what I said.
That you don't want to pay 50-50, so that means that money does matter.
Listen, okay.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me separate it.
I don't care whether you're rich or you're well-off.
I simply care about the fact that we can live a comfortable life because...
My G, you live a comfortable life by going to work.
You can work in McDonald's and live a good life.
I don't care about being rich.
If I cared about being rich, I would have been doing something different.
We're gonna move on.
Miss Russia, save us.
Morocco has something first.
I wanted to quickly say something.
Just quickly.
I know what she said.
She mentioned something about you don't want girls with high body counts, but you're talking about having sex with the guy early on, is what she was saying.
Okay.
Well, we'll address that in a second.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
You were going to say something?
I think, you know, when guys call us things like gold diggers and things like that, that's where kind of the problem also is because not all women are gold diggers.
Yeah, they are.
Yeah, they are.
Why?
Why do you think so?
I just went around the panel here and asked all of you if you would be okay with going 50-50 or and or the man paying the majority of the bills and all of you said yes.
That's a difference between...
You expect us to provide all the emotional stuff for you, right?
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Holy crap.
If I kill one person or if I kill a hundred people, am I still a murderer?
Yeah.
Okay, so if you want to pay a minority of the bills, or maybe 50-50, or whatever it is, you still want a man that makes more money, so you're still a gold digger to a degree.
There's a difference between wanting to be comfortable and looked after.
You just don't like the word, but you're still a killer if you kill 100 or one.
You're still a killer, right?
You're going to extremes, that's the thing.
That's how I have to bring it so you guys understand logic.
No, so there's a difference between wanting a roof over your head, stability, and wanting to run someone's pockets.
It's completely different.
And at the end of the day, that woman needs money.
You need more than stability in London.
You're gonna need someone who's at least on 100k.
You guys are more triggered.
You guys are triggered by the term gold digger.
That's why I was very specific and said all women are gold diggers to a degree.
You might not be a huge gold digger.
However, and just so y'all know, I'm not roasting you guys for being that way.
It's in a woman's natural tendency to be gold diggers.
That's fine.
But you guys are trying to sit here and dress it up as something else.
And that's where we had the point of contention.
The word gold digger implies that the person is only out for financial gain.
That is the cornerstone.
You wouldn't be in it if you didn't think he could make money.
It doesn't mean right now, but at some point when you have a kid, who's going to be paying the bills?
But the word gold digger is an extreme.
Just because you don't like how it sounds, it doesn't make it not true.
What's the definition of gold digger then?
What is the better word to use then?
For you.
Someone who wants to be comfortable and protected.
Live the basic life.
The basic pyramid of needs.
A basic digger.
A woman who wants to be provided for.
The word digger implies that there's an ulterior motive, guys.
It implies being sneaky.
This is why I retired.
But do you not understand what I'm saying?
No, honestly.
Look, look, look.
I got this right now.
Look, look, look.
Do you not understand that when you're digging, that is by definition for what?
Potential!
Oh!
And what the hell you've been about to say a second ago?
Potential!
You're digging because there's a potential to find gold.
And that's what women are looking for.
It's in the term!
Everyone likes money.
Men also like money.
Everyone likes money.
Everyone likes money.
A man is not going to date a woman if she hasn't got any goals or she's not working and she's just being bummy.
Are you going to date a woman?
Not true.
Not true.
Really?
So you're telling me if you met a girl, yeah, and she worked like what?
Burger King.
One day a week?
Yes.
No, no, no.
Men don't care about that.
And the rest of the days, all she did was just lay in bed and just chill with stuff.
Are you really going to love her?
Are you really going to take care of her?
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
They would.
They absolutely would.
They'll help her.
I have a question.
How hard is she?
No, they absolutely...
No, they don't care about that.
If she's an eight or higher, she's good.
They absolutely would love the McDonald's girl.
I take your point.
I think it's about semantics.
The issue you've got is with the term, right?
But Myra's already said there's a spectrum to this, right?
So you get the girl who's at the boat party with Drake and she's just after the cash.
She's after the Louis bag and all that shit, right?
You've got that.
And then you've got women who they're just looking for the comfortable...
Basic pyramid of needs.
Basic human needs.
But what I would also say is, and Myron, I don't know what you guys take on this, it seems to be like the dating market is getting increasingly transactional anyway.
And I don't think that's a fucking bad thing.
It's not.
Really.
I think the issue is, like, because we can be honest about this, and we can say that is part of what a guy brings to the party.
Like, the financial support, etc.
And I don't think that's really a bad thing, but the issue is more the obfuscation of, you know, like, trying to cover over it, right?
They don't like I want to point out, this is how women control speech.
Because men will say something really direct and then women will say, well, it's how you say it.
Even though we're communicating the same thing, it's just, it's like...
Well, you're not actually, because when you actually pay attention to the definitions of words, they actually make a huge difference.
You have to be careful with what you're saying.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
What's the actual definition of gold digger?
Okay, okay.
Do you look for a man that can provide in any way in the long term?
Of course.
You want to have food.
That's it.
But that sounds much nicer than saying that you're a gold digger.
You don't like how it sounds.
But what is the definition of gold digger?
Men are gold diggers as well because they want a woman that can take care of the house and provide to a certain extent.
He wants a woman that can come home and actually emotionally support him and all that shit.
To an extent, men are gold diggers too.
Guys are gold diggers as well.
Since it's a spectrum.
There's nothing wrong with that though.
There's nothing wrong.
Guys, one mic at a time.
One mic at a time.
Women give ourselves way too much credit.
Pearl, is your man rich?
Come on now.
We need to emotionally...
Pearl, is your average man rich?
We need to get emotional support from men.
I don't really think men need emotional support from us.
Women just like taking credit.
Okay, so is your average man rich?
My question, is your average man rich?
And they do need emotion.
Everyone needs emotional support once in a while.
It doesn't matter if it's a man or a female.
We all need a partner, someone that we can rely on as a comfort to.
You'd be like, you know what?
I'm feeling some type of way right now.
I need to unwind.
But men don't look to us for that.
Men can't because women...
No, no, no.
Because women use that emotion against men later.
I've heard this from so many guys.
Men do that too.
Where men open up to us and then we use it against them.
So many guys have said this.
Men do it too.
I'm sorry.
I've experienced firsthand a man using every single thing he asked me to open up because I'm very closed off.
And then before you know it, he's using it for my face.
Gaslighting me, manipulating, blackmailing.
So at the end of the day, at the end of the day, men do the same thing as women do.
So we can't say that it's just one gender and keep putting it on the women and say that women are gold diggers, but men are not gold diggers.
You haven't answered my question, Pearl.
How rich is your average man, Pearl?
That doesn't have to do with the...
It kind of does.
We're talking about golf.
So it's nature and nurture.
I think it's nature and nurture.
What you grow up with the values that you grow up learning.
Do women find vulnerability in men sexy?
Do women find vulnerability in men sexy?
I do, yes.
I do.
I want to hear from you.
What specifically happened where this guy used your vulnerability against you?
I want to hear the story.
I'm not going into that because at the end of that...
Okay, because it's not true.
It's not true.
She just wants to keep it personal.
No, I like to keep my shit personal because that shit ended up being domestic.
So not only did he fucking abuse me mentally, yes I did actually, ABH. I have all the photos, I have all the proof and I was supposed to take him to court but I dropped the charges because of his little girl.
Thank you very much.
- So don't come to me when I can actually get all the proof. - I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
- Domestic violence is very, very sensitive.
- And I can get all the emails up and I can get every single fucking thing up.
So don't, please don't.
Because at the end of the day-- - One mic at a time, one mic at a time.
One mic at a time.
- Here's a little, 'cause I'm not about to take a father away from a child.
This little girl was special.
What if he hits her?
This is why it's so full of shit.
I did think that, but there are so many things that are behind it that I'm not going to go I'm not going into it.
There's so many things behind it.
I'm not going into it.
There's a lot of personal stuff back.
And I do not need to explain myself to you.
I don't really care.
So why are you digging at me?
Why are you trying to come at me and say that it's not true?
Was you the one that got beaten?
Was you the one with a broken jaw?
Was you the one with a broken jaw?
Was it you?
No, but this is why, because if he really was this dangerous, evil guy, you would have pressed charge.
No, no, no.
Pearl, there's several levels to an abusive relationship.
And if you've not been in one, you can't comment on it.
It's a very sensitive...
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
You're acting as if you know up on something that you haven't been through.
I've done this for you.
You know comments a bit, right?
Have you been in an abusive relationship?
Have you been in one?
Hold on, hold on.
Okay.
Ladies, ladies, all right.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Everybody shut the fuck up for two seconds, okay?
Let's go, yeah, because you guys talk too goddamn much and it's hurting my ears and the audience.
I'll just objectively say this and then you guys can go back to saying what you're saying.
But studies have shown this, that typically when there's abusive relationships, nine out of 10 times, it's both parties are beating on each other.
And if there's one party beating on the other, right?
Most of the time, not saying this is your situation, so don't get triggered, but most of the time when there's one party beating on the other, it's typically the woman beating on the man, not the other way around, contrary to popular belief.
A lot of people think it's the man beating on the woman, but nine out of ten times if the man's beating on the woman, it's the woman also beating on him.
Can I say something?
It's both.
That's a fact, by the way.
Because this happened to me.
I've been doing this for a year, a year now, okay?
I stopped in November.
And I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what.
i i couldn't believe women never file police reports in these evil abusive men if they're so abusive file a police report why would you want an evil abusive man out there he could hit but why didn't you press charges i don't know i don't know you personally so i maybe you're the exception doubt it but it's like but it's like okay literally you can go to the cops and they can put these guys in jail if they're abusive why don't you go do it they never do Well,
unfortunately, we're emotional creatures, isn't it?
But I wanted to ask you, Pearl, did your demonetization mean that you ended up with an average man?
Did it open up your pool?
I'm unemployed, so it's like anyone makes more.
It's like when you're in the negative.
A big reason why a lot of them don't go to the police is because they're both attacking each other.
It wasn't that.
My reason...
You don't have to explain yourself.
You said that earlier, right?
That's fine.
You don't have to.
I'm just telling you the overall situation.
My reason was completely different to that.
I know that, yes, both parties kind of end up being violent and everything like that.
Most of the time.
And I've seen it.
I know those that have been in domestic relationships themselves.
But when it ended up happening to me, I was shocked because it happened out of nowhere.
When it comes to the mental and the emotional, that was already hard enough as it is, and I was trying to break away, and I was trying to get myself away from that person.
But there is so many things behind the scenes that I don't want to go into, and I won't go into, that played a massive factor.
But then why would you bring it up if you don't want to go into it?
I don't understand.
Why would you bring stuff up you don't want to go into?
I'm trying to let you know that there are men out there.
I just wouldn't bring something up I didn't want to go into.
Because I don't have to go into the rest of it.
You're just trying to dig, dig, dig, dig.
and you've never experienced it yourself.
Mana?
You've never experienced it yourself.
Mana, espera.
I swear, espera, espera.
Come on, espera, espera.
Ela é malicada, não te preocupes.
I swear, hold on, hold on, espera, espera.
I swear, Pearl, two seconds, because I swear Vibi works with people that are at risk, especially victims and things like this.
So actually, maybe you could give an input, isn't it?
Yeah, so what it is, is yeah, with the domestic violence and stuff like that, Up until as of recent, only the things, you could only go to the police, like when it got violent.
But now, domestic abuse is the mental...
When did the law change?
Hold on, hold on.
What year did the law change?
Hold on, you're talking to a professional.
Relax.
Cohersive control, the abuse, all that.
Cohersive control is bullshit.
Can you relax?
Can you relax?
No, because it doesn't matter if they're professionals, if they don't know shit, because the problem Feminists get into these institutions and they change the definition of word.
So abusive used to be one-sided.
One person's hitting the other.
That's it.
That's what abuse is supposed to be.
Abuse is so I'm sorry that Pearl has been doing this for a year and therefore she knows that what you're talking about.
Can she finish her sentence please? - Thank you. - Yeah, so, you know, so like up until like, so abuse can, many factors of things will come out in abuse.
Like it might not have to be just physical.
It's not always just physical.
It's mental.
It's coercive control.
But it's only as of recent, we've been taught that these things are abuse.
Before it was, oh, it's just, did he hit you?
It's not about just, did he hit you physically?
It's everything that leads to that point.
Can I go now?
It's everything that leads to that part.
So also, we don't want to condone violence, of course, and what happened to you sucks.
But that's dangerous because now we're saying it could be mental.
And verbal?
That is crazy, my guy.
But without you knowing, you're stuck somewhere, and you don't know what the fuck is going on.
It all contributes.
You know you want to leave, but you can't.
It's mad.
No, because feminists got into these institutions, and they switched the definition.
So it used to, and it is.
Real abuse is really one person's hitting the other, the other's not hitting them.
No, that's not just abuse.
That's emotional abuse as well.
It's my turn.
It's my turn.
I understood that.
And so what they did was they expanded the definition and what they did in the family court system was they made it a balance of probability.
So meaning one judge can go in there and say if it's more likely that she was abused than not more likely.
Basically, that the guy is guilty.
And so what they'll do is financial abuse.
Oh, he didn't let you spend whatever you want on your credit card.
Oh, you've been abused.
Oh, come on.
No, no, this is true.
I've done, I've done, I've interviewed the guys.
I've seen the court documents.
Have you ever tried to interview and get to know the women and what's going on with them?
And how much it But this is the problem.
Women are so used to being able to falsely accuse men that if they're ever called out on it, they just get mad.
It's really to the point where I just...
I can't wait to see what your relationship ends like, though.
I can't wait.
Because you seem to have a lot of the answers.
We're talking about abuse.
No, I'm talking about just things in general.
Because you talk with such certainty that you don't even know.
Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
I'm telling you, you listen.
Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
Basically, what the premise was is that the definition of abuse has shifted over the years to take a more subjective approach.
It could be dangerous because it's based off of how you feel versus what's real.
And that's very dangerous because we know women are emotional and it's like, oh, you pissed me off.
So I feel this way.
So I feel like I'm being abused.
And it's dangerous.
But what's more dangerous is you talking like this.
What's more dangerous is you talking like this, same thing as Pearl is saying, because now you're taking the voices away from people that actually need it.
Wait, wait, it's my turn.
It's my turn.
It's my turn.
I'll let you go.
I'll let you go.
Thank you.
But only if I can go after.
It's my turn.
What I find very interesting is that, for example, Pearl, you have a lot of experience sitting here for one year speaking to so many different men, but you've probably only had like one or two relationships that probably were not that serious.
When it comes to the emotional connection with a man, that experience of yours might just be limited.
Because I haven't finished.
I still haven't finished.
You're getting triggered.
Pearl is getting triggered.
You have to attack the argument and not the person.
No, I'm attacking.
No, listen.
No, but the thing is, she's devaluing what someone's gone through.
Do you see what I'm saying?
You didn't go through that as if you were fucking there.
As if you're the one that ended up with the bruises and all that shit in your body.
Relax, man.
Relax.
Relax, relax, relax, relax.
- Is that, ah. - Why does he have to go back to her personal life?
- No, no, it's fine, it's fine. - If you're gonna make a point, ladies, right?
No, you're not saying anything.
What I'm saying is this, you can't attack the person personally.
Like if you're gonna go ahead and argue a point, argue the point.
Don't say, oh, well, you XYZ, so whatever.
That doesn't make sense.
You don't have to be a mathematician to say one plus one is two.
I know, but can I tell you why I said that?
Because it's the same way that you can't attack and discredit a person because she is a woman, because women are stupid, or because women shouldn't vote, or because women shouldn't, because women are more emotional.
No one did that.
No, but in general, you are generalizing.
So when we generalize to discredit women that are talking about abuse because women are more emotional, then I'll discredit somebody that is saying the same thing but doesn't even have the experience that she should have.
No, no, because what she said was...
We want to discredit each other.
And then she's trying to gaslight to say that I didn't go through what I went through.
To say, oh yeah, I doubt it, I highly doubt it.
Like, how are you going to tell me that you haven't done it?
Shut up, shut the fuck up.
Holy shit!
When I'm fucking talking, shut the fuck up!
I don't know what you guys think this is, but I gotta fucking put my foot down because you guys are hurting the crowd of the show and just fucking yelling a bunch of nonsense.
That was sexy.
Okay?
That was the most red pill moment of the whole show.
Because the thing is that you guys are trying to twist what she's saying.
She's simply saying that the term abuse has been changed and bastardized to basically fit and mold female emotions, right?
So that it can hit a wider net of men.
For example, it used to be, I'm just attacking, right?
Which, obviously, we don't condone that.
It's terrible.
However, now it's morphed into, he's not giving me a credit card.
Oh, it's emotional abuse, et cetera.
How can you sit there of court of law and define emotional abuse?
What's the litmus test for that?
What is the barometer?
How do you identify it?
The same way that racial discrimination has evolved because you learn more.
The more you know, the more you evolve.
Can we please...
All she's saying...
You're fantastic at trying to transition an argument.
All she's saying is that the term abuse has morphed Thanks to the family court to destroy more men.
That's all she's saying, which is true.
I just think people are more knowledgeable to notice that it's not just physical.
It's not just physical now.
Because you're talking about if it's against a man, it's not against a man.
That is something to protect everybody.
It's psychological.
It's a psychological thing.
The legal terms.
Wait, wait, wait.
Then why don't men do it?
Why are you cutting me off before I finish, bro?
Because men are embarrassed to tell people that their woman beats them.
What man is going to go and say, by the way, my woman doesn't let me spend my money.
My woman calls me names and I cry sometimes.
Or my woman does this to me.
My woman treats me like a bitch.
Most men will never say that.
And those things are in place so that both men and women can take advantage of it.
The important point is how do you define coercive control?
The important point is not what her dating relationship status is or any of that.
The important point is how do you define coercive control?
I don't know.
I guess you'll have to experience it.
How do you define it?
Because that's the important point.
Because if the definition has been...
You start seeing that this person is more and more isolating you into the point that you've got no one else but that one.
And it's disgusting because I've gone through it, but I've also had guy mates that have opened up to me and they've gone through it.
And I'm like, this is crazy because I didn't think it would happen like that to men as well.
But like, that's what I'm saying.
It's not just the reason why abuse has been opened up is because more knowledge has been noticed.
I'm like, you know what?
This is not just physical.
It's like with parents and kids.
It's like when you raise little children.
You guys just go on for like a million minutes.
So I'm going to cut you.
I'm going to, yeah, yeah.
No, I pay for this whole studio.
So shh.
Because you're wrong.
Because you're wrong and you don't like the fact that you're getting corrected on the thing that you're wrong because you did one year.
You did one year and now you know something that someone else has wrong for what it's like.
Real quick, Pearl, you're going next, but we're going to go to Rumble, guys.
YouTube is going to be shut off.
Let's go to Rumble.
Rumble, guys.
Let's go over to Rumble.
Thank you.
We need a break.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, no.
A break, no?
No, no.
It's not a break.
It's just going to go.
Yeah.
Now here's the problem.
Women used to be able to take L's and just take them and move on.
But now women want to legally pursue L's.
And I think our grandmothers, our great grandmothers, they would take an L and say that was an L and move on.
But the problem is with Oh, okay.
It's okay.
But the problem is with our generation of women, we want to legally, okay, a guy's controlling everything you do, and maybe something happened you didn't like.
Now you want to take it to court, take his kids away, take half his shit, and then go around on the internet and call him abusive.
If that's what I wanted to do, why did I take the charges off?
I don't know who you are.
I don't know who you are.
I don't really care.
I'm not chatting out of my ass.
What research have you done?
It's alright for men to get away with things.
They can do all of this.
Men don't speak up upon women.
so Let's speak English.
We're speaking English here.
English viewers.
Okay, go, bro.
No, look it, look it.
Now, here's the thing.
We used to take out...
There she goes.
There she goes.
It is not a fault you are not equipped with another language like this one.
I'm joking.
I love the languages.
I'm really impressed.
But the problem is, the problem is, women used to take our L's and just move on.
You know, we would take an L, maybe something happened in a relationship we didn't like, but now we go to the court system and take away his kids and half his assets.
So my question is, what do you know about family law?
What do you know about the court system?
I know quite a bit still, due to the fact that my auntie is a lawyer.
Thank you very much.
But I don't need to...
No, no, no, what do you know?
It should be easy.
It should be so easy to talk about.
I'm so shocked.
So women can take all their L's and everything because men don't do that.
Men don't do that.
Do you know how many men go through what they go through and everything and they don't say nothing?
It's the same fucking thing.
Abuse is abuse.
Doesn't matter.
What is abuse?
There's different levels.
There's mental.
There's a gaslight in which you can do it.
What's the definition?
What's the definition?
What is the definition?
What is the definition?
Oh, because you don't know, but that's the problem.
And this is the problem.
I don't know why.
I don't know how you so confidently talk about something you know nothing about.
You know nothing about it.
Okay, I'll give you an example.
I'll give you an example.
I'll give you an example.
I can give you an example.
One thing that most women don't know is that in family court, it's actually all determined by a judge and it's not based on evidence.
It's based on a balance of probabilities, meaning it's more likely that he did it than not.
Not based on evidence.
So meaning a woman can go cry on a stand and a judge can just say, well, she's crying.
A man can do the same thing.
But then why?
If it was so effective for men, then why don't they do it?
What percent of custody is given to men?
What percent of alimony is given to men?
None of it.
None of it.
Now she's googling because she doesn't know.
I could tell you off the top of my head.
This is the funny thing.
I just don't know.
I don't know why.
I told you before the show.
I told you before the show, no phones.
Pearl, do you know what's crazy, right?
I'll tell you for sure.
A lot of the reasons why...
Oh yeah, yeah.
Big old, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
You two can have a fight after, I beg.
Relax now.
I mean, I'm pretty big.
I don't think she'd want that.
Don't worry, because she's that golden, yeah?
I'm an athlete, you know what I mean?
Don't worry, be careful.
We are Africans too, so be careful.
Anyways, man, you seem pleasant.
Okay, step away for two seconds.
Yeah, I mean, again, you guys are very emotional right now.
All she's simply saying is that Abuse in general, from a legal standpoint, has morphed over the years to fit an agenda.
No, that's not all she's saying.
It's certainly more subjective.
That's the foundation of what she's been saying.
It's certainly more subjective.
Thank you, Myron.
Thank you.
Could you agree it's more subjective, though?
Could you at least agree it's more subjective in these emotional cases?
Because that's where the problem lies, isn't it?
It's defining it.
It's not just emotional though.
Law is subjective in nature anyways.
And the thing is that men go through it a lot but they just don't own up to it and that's the maddest thing.
It's crazy.
A lot of guys go through this the most as well when it's emotional and mental and they won't think it's abusive or anything like that.
Controversial take.
Maybe it's not that pertinent.
Do you see what I'm saying?
They just take it.
but what about maybe it's not that it's not pertinent well but i swear it's not important but pearl just said yeah she said that in one of 50 catholic divorces ending a man killing himself every relationship no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no well yeah yeah because they're very emotional because they'll kill themselves okay i'll give you i'll give you i'll give you an example It's not because they don't talk about it.
I'll give you an example.
One man that I interviewed that I would not be surprised if he...
I would not be surprised if he took his own life because the mother of his kid said he touched the child and she never took him to criminal court.
She destroyed his reputation.
And then why didn't she go to criminal court?
And because criminal court, you guys don't know the difference.
That's what I'm saying.
She doesn't know anything.
That's the problem.
Family court is not based on evidence.
It doesn't put someone in jail.
It's only to get resources from men.
I didn't have to go to court.
I'm not talking about you, but Denalva was saying that these men kill themselves in divorce court because they're not opening up about their feelings.
No, it's because women are financially ruining them.
They're taking off their shit.
They're taking their kids and they're ruining their reputation.
I've interviewed men that are homeless.
It can happen.
I do agree.
It definitely can happen.
My ex made me homeless.
That's a crazy thing.
That's a crazy thing.
I think you're- She's not- Nobody is talking about you.
Yeah.
I don't really care if you get mad because you get so much sympathy to a man.
But what women go to and like none there.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
What she's saying, she's speaking in general, which means she's not talking about you.
She's simply telling you that in the family court- Yeah, but I love the word I'm trying to say is men do that to you.
Hold on, be quiet.
Damn.
What the fuck, bro?
She's not talking about you.
She's speaking generally and also understandly ladies, because that's another thing too, a good point.
Family court and criminal court are two different things.
In criminal court, there's a way higher burden of proof, right?
I don't know what it is in the UK, but in America, I'm assuming in the UK, it's very similar, right?
Beyond a reasonable doubt.
And you're judged by a jury of your peers.
I know.
But in family court, a woman can sit there and be like, oh, he touched my daughter.
What proof do you have?
I have, like, this one thing here.
And they can use that and effectively destroy that guy.
Because the burner proof is way lower.
And GL, this is like a white people conversation.
Because in my community, where I come from, actually, what you're saying is a truth.
It's a white people thing, I'm not gonna lie.
I've interviewed Pakistan.
It's a white people thing, trust me.
I just want to say that it was quite an interesting point.
I didn't know that and I definitely do believe that there are women who play the system to their needs.
Men ultimately do suffer because the default reaction of many judges and people in power are to believe People who they perceive as less powerful, which in this case are women, but that doesn't take away from the fact that there's a multitude of factors that constitute to abuse and lead up.
If you're saying the physical part of it is what is abuse, there are loads of different factors that then ultimately contribute to that final event.
I want to ask you a question.
What constitutes that someone abused someone?
What would you base it off of?
I would base it off of the lead-up, the series of events that led to the final event.
But how would you know they happened?
You would need what?
You'd need evidence.
Okay, and you only get that in what?
Doctor's reports, police reports.
Okay, but where do you, what court do you get that in?
The criminal court.
Okay, so why don't women go to it?
Women do, but they do.
It's the majority of women don't.
The majority of police reports that are filed when it comes to rape, SA, all of that stuff, they're not pursued, meaning they don't have enough what?
Evidence.
Because women are emotional, which is the point that we've all been trying to make, more times than not, women are emotionally, you know, if you've had the man's kids, you've known him since you were 17, you've grown up together, you are afraid to take that step and ultimately see him go down for that.
Like she was saying, it's the woman's fault.
Fine, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
I'll tell you, but the problem we have in this society is we automatically believe women when women's nature is very deceptive.
I understand that.
And so naturally, I don't think we should believe women.
I actually think we shouldn't believe women.
Because the thing is, if I really believe that someone was abusive, a criminal, all of this stuff, why wouldn't I go to a criminal court or lock him up?
We take into account that, listen, relationships are multifaceted.
They're not as clear-cut as we are making it out to be.
There's so many factors at play.
But that leads into what I'm talking about, the subjectivity.
When we're talking about these other forms of abuse, like coercive control, and I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but how do you define that?
And how do you know it's not a subjective opinion?
Versus it being an objective fact.
That's the issue.
But then we look at the series of events that led up to the event.
But what would the series of events be?
I just want to hear from her, guys.
No problem.
Woman gets pregnant.
Now she's on maternity leave.
She doesn't have the finances to support herself.
Man gets...
Sorry, but then why did she make the decision to get pregnant if she can't afford it?
Thank you.
It's her fault.
No, things happen in relationships.
And if you're Catholic, you know, I'm Catholic too.
A lot of Catholics do not believe in abortion.
Accidents happen.
I don't believe in abortion, right?
If you are in a union...
Or having sex with a guy that you're not married to.
Yeah, but let's assume these things happen in marriages as well.
I have an opinion.
I have an opinion that I don't know if you guys would agree with.
I think women should really pay for their own kids, okay?
Because I'll tell you what.
It's like, okay, the average woman gets married at 30, has one, maybe two kids.
You've had a decade to save money.
Why can't you pay for it?
No, no, seriously, seriously.
You have a decade.
You have a decade to save money.
Listen, pal, we have biological clocks.
We have biological clocks.
No, no, no, no, I'm serious.
But women, right now, right now, women are choosing.
We're choosing.
I'm not saying it's bad or good.
I'm just saying this is what we're doing to wait till 30 to have a child.
To get married and have kids.
We're waiting, okay?
Fine, fine.
But you've had a decade to save money and get in a financial position to pay for it.
I agree.
It's just like we want both.
We want the traditional treatment, but also to wait.
I don't care what you want.
It's fine.
But then pay for it.
Yeah, but the man also makes the kid.
It takes a semen.
She's not in the bedroom on her own.
And the eggs.
And sometimes go 50-50.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
But they don't have 50-50 choice.
Of what?
Correct.
Okay, if you get pregnant tomorrow, who decides if the kid lives or not?
You do.
My body.
Okay.
Your body, your choice, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so you have the authority to make that decision, right?
Yes.
What comes with authority?
Power.
Okay, well, I was going to say responsibility.
Oh.
Yeah, women tend to forget that part.
They tend to forget that part.
They like the power and the authority, but they don't want to deal with the responsibility.
Yeah, the responsibility is there.
So if you have unilateral control of who gets born or not, and you decide, I'm going to have this child against the whims of the man, you should pay for it.
Okay, then that's the same reason why women get most custody and then get full alimony, isn't it?
No, that's not true.
Women get custody because the court system favors them.
And I'll tell you what, men are punished for being traditional in this country.
They are.
Because the way the court system, and see this, I'm going to talk about this because I know things.
I'm like, this one over here, no offense.
I don't really care if you went through it.
You don't know anything about the legal code.
I'll tell you why.
I already know you don't.
It's easy to file restraining orders.
I know.
You don't really need any evidence.
So again, this means nothing to me.
I was there and they looked at my whole body.
Alright, alright.
That was just enough.
Bro, don't prider so much.
Don't prider so much.
Sorry, sorry.
Make your point.
I'm sorry, Myra.
I just-- There was a whole witness there as well.
What is wrong with you?
I don't really know what your situation was.
So again, I'm talking in general.
You're talking in general, but you came at me.
You penalized it at me, unlike this one that doesn't know what she's on about.
We need to be respectful of people's experiences.
I'll tell you, the reason I said that is because I asked you specifically.
The reason I said that...
I asked you really specific questions earlier to see if you knew what you're talking about and it was just clear you didn't.
Don't know about your situation.
Maybe you were right.
Maybe you're wrong.
Don't really care.
I'm done.
Make your point, Pearl, and then stop prodding her, please.
Go ahead.
Okay, okay.
So, but I actually forgot the point I was going to make.
I'll remind you.
So the point was, you're trying to explain why women actually are the ones that get cussed in most of the allegory.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Actually, I do remember.
Okay, because the way the code is written, it's basically the person that spends the most time with the child.
Well, if a man wants to protect and provide for his family, who does that punish?
The guy for doing the right thing.
But the children spend more time with the mothers.
Sometimes men are not as involved.
It's because they're at work though.
Let's talk about what's in the best interest of the child.
When you look at single father homes, they fare very similar to two-parent households.
When you look at single mother homes, they become criminals, drug dealers, school shooters.
Every problem that you can look at in society comes from single mother homes.
Single father homes, not the same.
What's the name of the Jeff Dahmer, whatever his name was, and his mom and his dad kind of together, and then he ended up with his dad?
There's exceptions, but it doesn't make the rule.
Single father homes fare very similar to single mother homes.
Yeah, and his mom was also a drug addict.
Well, isn't that a fool for going for a drug addict and getting pregnant?
Yeah, choosing the wrong partner and held accountable for his choices.
You're great at just strawmanning a random point that has nothing to do with it to try to make a point, but that doesn't make sense.
Well, you just mentioned his mom being a drug addict and I just mentioned the father chose a drug addict.
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that single father households fare way better than single mother households.
Well, I made a point that shows you that there's an exception to that rule.
You just used an example of a serial killer from the fucking 1970s.
Because he committed his first murder, I think, in 1975.
He used that as an example to say that single...
What?
The same way you guys use basis and out of context statistics from studies that you pull out of Google.
Like, come on.
As an educated woman, I do know that all the stats that you guys repeat a million times are copied from Kevin Samuels, so I'm just saying.
You literally just used an exception to the rule.
And like I said before, his mom...
His mom was a drug addict and that fucked up his life, too.
Listen, listen.
I'm bringing it up simply because I think it's ridiculous what you're saying.
His mom was a degenerate, not his dad.
I'll give you an example.
I come from a home where there's only a mother.
And again, I'll give you another example and I'm a living one.
My mom is a single mother, really, a widowed mother, really, who raised her kids from when we were 12 and some of us were even two.
And we're cool.
We're not drug dealers, not criminals.
Well, congrats, congrats!
Thank you!
A lot of the women on the panel, I've noticed this trend.
I mean, this is the same shit in Miami.
It's amazing.
You go over the pond, nothing changes.
We'll make an objective argument about a generality on how the world works.
You guys will hear that, internalize it, and say, well, that doesn't apply to me!
And then go ahead and yap about how you're different.
Fantastic!
But in general, what we're saying is true.
The court system does favor women over men.
They win most of the custody battles, even though they might not necessarily be a better parent on paper.
She literally just told y'all the woman is going to get custody most of the time because she spent more time with the child and the child rearing years, but that might not necessarily make her a better mother because the man was doing his job, which is protecting and providing, which is what y'all all want, by the way.
So the court system is heavily in favor of women.
And then men, 90% of alimony is paid for men to women.
So it is absolutely true that everyone knows that the court systems in the West in general are fucked and geared towards females, which it is what it is.
That's a fact, ladies.
But a lot of the time, men don't want involvement with their children.
Well, I'm not sure that's true.
A majority do.
It's just that there's a bunch of roadblocks in the way, whether it's the woman not allowing the man to be involved, right?
Because she wants to hurt him.
She'll make lies up about him.
Lawyers a lot of times will advise men, hey, it's not worth it to go to court.
You're going to lose.
So they don't even bother fighting it.
It's an uphill battle.
So there's a bunch of things that get in.
But most men, of course, there's deadbeat fathers.
Absolutely.
But most men, I would say, definitely want to see their kids just that they don't have the opportunity to.
Because a lot of women use kids as a weapon and weaponize them against the man to get compliance or just hurt them because they're mad about some shit.
So again, you guys got really emotional about this abuse thing, but everything we've said is fact.
They have changed the definition of abuse for a while.
Fresh, can I ask you a question?
Sure.
Did you grow up with both parents at home?
No.
Are you a drug dealer?
I was.
Okay.
That's good then.
I just wanted to make sure, you know what I'm saying?
To be fair, I was a road man.
You were a road man.
I was a road man.
You were trapping.
Trap star.
Okay, you were trapping.
And so would you say your mum's a bad mum because she was a single mum?
I would say my opinion is relevant.
No, I'm just asking.
Because it's a general statement.
No, I do understand.
But like, for example, if I can say that my mom's a good mom and she was on her own, you can say the same thing.
Perhaps this actually may not be the majority.
This is the thing.
I really think that...
We are in a small room.
Us two.
Sample size is not enough.
Well, let me tell you, a lot of these studies that these people pick up on are simple sizes of a hundred, or a thousand, when there's billions of people in the world.
and they'll pick also demographics name one any study hold on name any study wait wait name one wait can you stop talking sorry I beg you're really cast today I do understand.
Obviously, it's your place and everything, but relax.
I just want you to keep talking about these studies.
Name one.
The basic nature of studies is that you take a pool of people.
It doesn't matter.
Any study.
By who?
Any study that you do, whether it's the UN, whether it's the council, the government, anything.
It's a pool of people.
If you go into prison and you look at the inmates, if you look at drug addicts, if you look at homeless people, if you look at degenerates in general, alcoholics, all the fucking vagrants of society, most of them come from single mother households where there wasn't a father there.
This is irrefutable fact.
Okay, can I then tell you something?
In America, I generally believe that it might be, correct me if I'm wrong, but the majority of the population that's incarcerated is black men, isn't it?
Well, what does that say about black men if that's a stat?
They commit a majority of the violent crime.
But what else does that say?
Because you guys are trying to say that women use the court system to, you know, manipulate men.
And what you're trying to do is to create this whole idea that because women are the ones that have the children most of the time, most of the time, if the woman is getting divorced, then women must be just assholes the same way that black men must, the majority of black men in comparison to the West.
You mentioned earlier.
What the hell is that argument?
I'm just explaining to you the parallels.
I'm just explaining to you how you can use numbers to paint anything and that's why it's important for you to not use the context.
Give me a study!
Give me one!
Hold on, you said earlier women have power, right?
Well, in the core system they have power.
It's simple.
I didn't say that.
Who said that?
They were talking about it earlier, wasn't they?
Regardless, that's without their power anyway.
What is your argument precisely?
Well, my argument precisely is simply to say, it doesn't matter what studies you're talking about because they don't actually reflect the real reality because studies and all these statistics are based on a limited pool on a normally limited demographic.
That does not represent what happens.
So you disagree?
And the reason why I say that...
Name a study!
Any study!
I can pick any study!
Pick one!
Who made it?
Any study.
One.
Just one.
One study.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're criticizing the studies.
Name a study.
Name one.
None.
Any study.
Even studies.
Any study.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me get this right.
Let me just get this right.
So are you saying that...
Because the argument is single mother households lead to fucked up children which then end up growing up into fucked up adults.
Cool.
You don't agree with that?
I don't agree with that.
With the plethora of studies, meta-analysis, which combine other studies that show that single mother households absolutely contribute to the degradation of society.
You don't agree with that?
Okay, and can I explain to you why I don't agree with that?
Go ahead.
Because I think that's important.
Okay.
Do you agree with one plus one is two?
Yes.
Okay.
Kind of.
It also depends.
Incredible.
Well, in China, they do say that once you add one drop of water to another drop of water, it becomes a bigger drop, not two.
That's not what I asked.
It's numbers!
That's water!
I'm just saying, I'm saying, but that's still two quantities going into one.
I'm just saying.
It depends on how you look at it.
And the whole point is that when you look at numbers, it all depends on how you're looking at it and what you're choosing those numbers.
You are mad.
You are crazy.
I'm just saying.
I gave you a very straightforward question.
And you just conflated it into a Chinese proverb or some shit.
This is what I'm trying to say.
This is why y'all can't be in leadership roles.
You asked me about 1 plus 1 when you're asking me about a contest and I said, can I explain?
And you didn't let me.
So I just gave you a funny answer.
This is insanity.
So let me ask you a question.
Because what you're objectively telling me right now is you don't agree with facts.
Okay, can I explain something?
You don't agree with facts.
I don't agree with those because facts, especially when it comes to statistics, they're also subjective.
And I'll explain to you why.
They're not all subjective.
You can't write off all studies.
How are stats calculated, guys?
Okay, so I'll explain to you.
For example, I'll give you a very non-gendery study.
Please, just give me the example.
Can you make it simple?
Let me talk, Ben, since you told people to shush to tell you to shush.
So, you have a statistic.
You take a pool of 1,000 people.
With those 1,000 people, you will test a few things, and then you'll see 50% of these people said this, and 50% of these people said this.
Based on this limited pool of information that we have got, of this limited pool of people, we can assume that 50% in general of people in general in the world do this.
That's how people use stats, and that is not true.
Because when you actually analyze real life and demographic of things, there's way too many variables that will completely destroy every statistic that you use, depending on the context that you put it in.
That's why I don't need to listen to you tell me statistics and say nine out of 10 and this out of 10, because depending on the context, it does not make sense.
Then explain to me, right?
Because this is objective.
Explain to me how most prisoners, most drug addicts, most losers in society, most degenerates come from single mother households when polled.
Well, it depends on the pool that you use for, first of all, the prison.
It depends also on the circumstances of the single motherhood.
It depends on where they grew up.
It depends on a million different things.
Father was absent.
That's okay, but it doesn't mean that that's the reason why they went into that.
So what are the chances that all these people end up in prison and they all don't have dads?
What are the chances?
Or they're bums on the street?
Or they're homeless?
Or they're broke?
There are a lot of people that come from families where they have the father who is also a drug dealer or whatever and they also go into that road despite having two parents.
So all I'm telling you is you need to actually analyze the pool of information that you're checking before you start saying all these big words like they're facts because they're not facts.
They're facts depending on what you're looking at.
But you're basically saying all studies are flawed.
Not every single study has got a thousand participants.
There's a plethora of studies that demonstrate this.
We're not talking about one study with a thousand people.
It's irrefutable that two-parent households, like the degradation of the nuclear family is what's led to the decline of civilization.
This is a fact.
This is not like...
Oh, I don't agree with it.
Well, I don't know what to tell you, but the reality is when you look at every degenerate in society, from prison all the way to homeless people, drug addicts, everything, most of them come from single mother households.
I think the degeneration of society comes really more to the weakening of men.
That's it.
Regardless, the father isn't present is my point.
That's the bottom line.
Can I please get any study?
Okay, so then let me entertain that one.
So then if the father is not present, then obviously clearly it must be the mother that is the problem because father's not being present.
I never said that.
No, I'm just putting down the table now so we can transition.
No, like you just, dude, like this is insanity, man.
Not really.
It is because I'm telling you objective truth and fact.
You're not.
You're telling me the truth that is based on your context.
So look, It's not my context.
It's done by scientists that are more educated than you, by the way.
Listen, there's a lot of scientists that are more educated than me, that do a lot of rubbish, and because everybody is so educated than me, the world is so perfect.
And they went out in the streets and they went ahead and polled these people.
Scientists, the same people that made the vaccines for COVID. Scientists have been scaring people and using those sorts of techniques.
Stop talking.
Stop talking.
Okay?
What are the chances...
What are the chances that all these people polled that are degenerates come from single mother households?
That's not a coincidence.
Okay, I'll have to look at that study and I'll definitely have a check and I'll check the demographics.
So how do you as the educated person determine the facts then?
How do you do it?
I determine the facts based on actual lived experience and research.
I don't listen to...
Oh, lived?
Yes, and I'll tell you why.
So your experience is better than everyone else's?
No, it's not that my experience is better than everyone else's, but I don't need to accept your facts because you think them.
There's alternative facts.
Listen, listen, as in...
It is not our facts.
Listen, let me tell you something.
It is the facts of the world.
I know, I know, but you know what?
Because I've learned a lot to how to, you know, do research, primary research especially, okay?
So I am the sort of person...
Why can't you name any studies?
I beg, stop.
See, and people say, oh, we want educated women on the panel.
You got a master, right?
You got a master.
And that's why you need to kind of like, let me finish.
Like I told you.
No, no, no, but this is what I'm trying to say.
You've been talking the whole time.
Education doesn't change anything.
You have.
You know what?
You know, real quick.
People get mad when, oh, bring educated women on.
This is what y'all get.
Real quick.
How do you feel about this over here?
You didn't say anything because they were talking the whole time.
How do you feel about this?
Okay, so basically...
What this lovely lady is saying over here is, she's not dispute, like, she's like, okay, look, Myron, Pearl, you have the facts, yeah?
The data that you're pulling up from the studies.
Pearl's like, quote me, quote me, the data.
Any data.
Right?
What she's basically trying to break down is that life is full of variables, right?
But what scientists don't analyze, I suppose, when they're putting the data together is people's life experiences.
It's very black and white.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But not necessarily, because the problem is we're talking about studies that we're not even looking at specific studies here, but if he's saying in general terms, if there's an absent father in the household, that leads to degeneracy, criminality, etc., etc., what is the common thread?
But it's not just a view, is it?
This has been demonstrated in multiple, a plethora of studies, right?
If that is the common thread, then that has substance, right?
That means something, right?
I don't even think women are more nurturing than men.
I'll tell you what.
Because they're more likely to abuse children and the elderly.
I don't even think women are more nurturing.
I think that's made up stuff that women do or say to make themselves feel better.
Infanticide or whatever, which is when a kid's killed in the first year, it's primarily done by women.
It's rare that a man ever does it.
I'm in general quite interested in the statistics.
What's the percentage of men Who go to jail for violent crimes or crimes against children, pedophilia, all of that, in comparison to women.
Okay, so I actually, I think that women are more violent than men.
But not what you think.
I'm talking about stats.
I'm gonna get to it.
I have stats on some of these chicks.
So when you look at violent crime, it is mostly done by men, but I think that's kind of unfair.
Women can't do violent crime the same way that men do.
I mean, if you're an American, you have guns.
So what do I look at?
When women have power, women are more likely to wage war.
They looked at queens the last 500 years.
They said, who's more likely to wage war, kings or queens?
Queens.
And then they also looked at women.
They're more likely to kill infants.
They're more likely to kill the elderly.
When we get power, we're just not very good with it.
But then what are the statistics?
I asked for the statistics.
Well, I know.
So I'll give you an example.
So infanticide, which is when babies are killed in the first year.
It's basically unknown that it's very rare for men to ever do it.
But what are the statistics?
What are the numbers?
Give us some numbers then.
Well, all I know, all I know...
Give us the statistics that these chicks don't got.
All I know, all I know...
I mean, I don't know them.
All I know, and I'll tell you what, I googled it because I was curious the other day, and it just said that police rarely ever find a male person that killed a baby within the first year.
But I'm asking for the statistics, the numbers.
The numbers.
Not what you read, the numbers.
What's the percentage?
Okay, it's 99% female.
Are you happy?
Are you sure?
Yes.
Okay, we'll have to check that.
I'll take your word for it.
I'll take your word for it.
I mean, to back up what you said about women being more violent, lesbian relationships have the highest rates of domestic violence by far, way, than everybody else.
Okay, but that's the dynamic between two women.
But that's what she's trying to explain, is that women actually are more prone to violence.
It may be in a dynamic between two women, but...
When men commit crimes, it's for a reason.
I'm not saying it's a good reason, right?
Like, for example, one reason that I've heard is respect.
Like, you know, they'll fight each other for respect or whatever.
But I think you can really see, you know, who's more violent?
Who kills the innocent?
I mean, one out of three women's had an abortion.
One out of three women kill their own child.
Yeah, I agree, yeah.
Yeah, and then you look at even after the kid's born, within the first year, women do it primarily.
So who kills the innocent?
There's a lot of men that kill their girlfriends, you know.
You know, but if women could and had the same physical force, I would argue that they would do it more.
Well, it's not that much.
You know, some men actually force you.
You know, some men actually force you to get an abortion.
I'm sure, I'm sure.
To the point that you lose the child.
You know there are some men like that.
Or they will hit you.
Or do anything.
I don't know what men you guys are dating.
All the statistics are not there because not everything gets spiraled in everyone's life.
What's your argument?
Some men, they will actually push you and make you get the abortion.
You might want to keep the child, but they'll be like, no, you have to fucking get the child.
I won't be there, you know.
There are some men that will get violent.
They might hit you, find out you're pregnant before you know it.
They want to hit you or all that shit in order for you to lose a baby.
Or they will stress you like a motherfucker because stress also kills the child.
But who makes the decision, though?
I'm not going to lie.
If a man threatened to kill me, I probably would keep the baby.
Okay, but who makes the decision?
Okay, see, there you go.
She just answered it.
The women make the final decision, right?
Yeah, but men still have a play to part.
And that's part of the coercive control.
I'm ready.
My response is that why would you get pregnant by a guy?
Why would you get pregnant by a guy that doesn't want to be a father?
I mean, we have, what, five?
Let's go five days a month.
We ovulate.
We have birth control.
We have condoms.
Wait, wait, wait.
Can we shh?
Okay.
So you can get an IUD. You can get on birth control.
You can get that patch.
You can take the pill.
You can wear a condom.
You can take a Plan B. There's so many options.
It's like men invent all of these options for us to just not be retarded.
They're like, take a pill every single day so you don't get pregnant.
We can't do that.
They're like, here's an IUD. Here's an IUD so you don't get pregnant.
We invented this for you.
We can't do that.
It's like, okay, okay.
After that, here's an abortion.
We'll do that for you.
Then we can't do that.
Oh, here's child support alimony.
- So if women are so irresponsible, why can't men just wear condoms?
If it was so irresponsible, why can't they make the decision? - Well, you can't put them out, you can't wear condoms. - If it was up to me, if it was-- - Why do men impregnate women that don't want to be mothers as well?
Why don't the women require the men they sleep with to wear condoms?
I get what you're saying.
I want to talk about all the choices.
We have so many choices.
It's crazy.
You could wait till marriage.
Most people don't do that.
Fine.
You can only sleep with non-abusive men you want to have children with.
Okay, there's an, I know, crazy.
So then, on top of that, you could require the men you date to wear condoms.
Crazy, I know.
On top of that, you could get an IUD. Crazy.
On top of that, you can take a pill once a day.
On top of that, there's the patch.
On top of that, there's plan B. On top of that, there's abortion.
That doesn't sound iconic of you.
Look at my morality.
I'm saying the choices that are available.
I'm not saying what I think is moral.
It doesn't matter.
I get what you're saying.
So my point is why is this so hard?
I get what you're saying.
I think a lot of the time women do make the wrong choices in terms of Picking men, but we also have to account for the fact that by nature, women innately want to have families.
They want successful marriages.
I don't think so.
Innately, women do.
No, seriously, I'll tell you why I don't think so.
Now I know this is crazy.
I think a little differently.
I don't know.
But I think if women, we wanted to have families.
Why is it that when we got the choice, we didn't have them?
Because basically they gave us birth control in the 60s.
So now we have the choice to do whatever we want and none of us really chose children.
So I actually think also on top of that the men are better parents and they're more nurturing.
I know, I know.
This is just what I think, so don't put this on that.
Just to finish my point, can I just...
It's like if we wanted to, we would, but we don't.
Can I just finish my point?
Sorry.
We also...
I get that.
There are women who do make terrible choices.
You know, they want a bad man.
They want a gun shooter.
They think that's the aesthetic.
They like it.
But we also have to account for the fact that women...
A lot of women get into relationships very hopeful.
They don't envision themselves 10 years down the line to be a single mum, raising their kids alone, struggling to make ends meet.
Women want families.
I can't remember what I was going to say.
So pick it!
I remember now, so sometimes people change in the span of a year.
Someone can change drastically depending on financial circumstance, you know, mental health change, physical health change.
We as women and as men, we can't predict, we can't preempt what someone's going to do to us in 10 years time based on the facts that we have now.
The man may be the most responsible, loving person as he is right now, but I can't then Travel 10 years down the line into the future and decide, oh, you know, how's he going to treat me?
Is he going to divorce me?
If I know that he's going to divorce me, if I know that he's going to be a deadbeat dad, obviously I'm not going to jump into that relationship.
Who divorces who?
But okay, who divorces who?
Women divorce men at higher rates, yes.
Okay, so women are the ones divorcing men.
Yeah, but why?
Okay, so why?
It's stupid reasons, actually.
And what would you define as stupid reasons?
It's all subjective, isn't it?
I want to define myself.
That's stupid, yeah.
I've heard I've outgrew him.
I've heard that so much.
I got bored.
But in most cases, those aren't...
It's the rule, it's not the exception.
I'll tell you what, I've done this for a year.
Wow, that's so long.
That's not a long time.
It's a thousand people, that's a long time.
Wow, that's a thousand people.
Look, look, look, look.
Did I not say this stuff?
Is that one thousand people?
I get what you're saying, but women are in marriages longer than...
We've been alive.
We're under 30.
Things happen.
You can't just go into something.
I think that women project things onto men.
I have unpopular opinions.
No, I get it.
I respect it.
I actually think that women...
We say, oh no, men change.
Women are the ones that change.
They're the ones that stop.
We do change.
I think men are generally the same.
No, they become complacent for sure.
How many times have you dated a guy and all your friends said there was a red flag your parents said it was a red flag they said no don't do it don't do it don't do it i've done that i've done that yeah correct correct yeah so he was the same but you tried to change it typically that's typically what happens and i'm not i'm not saying i'm any better than any woman i'm not saying i've never done that like okay okay but i'm just saying that's what we do men men they just want us to stay the same They just want us to not change.
Don't get fat.
Then 80% of women gain 20 plus pounds in the first five years of marriage.
They just want us to keep sleeping with them.
I mean, you know, there's some factors that are uncontrollable.
I've seen a lot.
I've seen not a lot.
I can't lie.
I'm not gonna lie.
So I've seen some cases where women have gotten sick.
They've had terminal illnesses.
Can we stick to the rule?
Not the exception.
Okay.
So what are the rules?
The rules are women just like to eat more.
So I've noticed in your line of defense, you know, women don't want to go to the police because of, you know, they've known them for a while and their feelings or they're getting into relationships because they're hoping for better or they're hoping the man can change in the future.
All of your rebuttals really take accountability away from women.
At the end of the day, like, and this is why, you know, arranged marriages were a thing for so long.
Women suck at picking their partners.
They really do.
All of you guys are almost in your 30s and single.
We go back 50, 70 years, 80 years.
Most women your age would be married and have a couple kids by now.
So what does that effectively tell me?
Women are putting up with less now because we have...
Hold on.
That's fine.
But what I'm trying to say is that women now, right, have basically...
It's crazy to me because you guys are so selective now and you want the best guy and you're like, we don't need to tolerate XYZ blah blah blah and then you meet that guy because he's exceptional, he's attractive because you want the best and then you get mad when he fucks another bitch.
You gotta figure it out.
You take accountability from yourselves every single time.
Can I ask you a question?
At the end of the day, you pick the man, right?
Yeah, but I cannot Okay, listen, this is what I said in the beginning.
What I said was, there are cases where women do pick trashy men.
We've done it.
So who's fault then?
It's the women's fault, fine.
Okay, so why do you keep making excuses for why they get bad behaviour after when they pick shitting men?
In that scenario, yes, the woman has to take accountability.
You've picked a bad man, you've picked a gun shooter, you've picked a road man, you've picked a drug dealer, just an aesthetic.
If you then get pregnant by him and he...
If someone gets arrested, that's on you.
But there are cases where women get with men with good intentions in the beginning and men change.
So, you know, you can't blame a woman for, you know, a divorce.
How about they never change?
They were that man the whole time and you just didn't realize.
And this is why.
The magic term is deception.
People lie.
People cheat.
How can we handle the truth if someone's not telling it?
Because that's why they lie.
Most of them can't handle cheating.
Most of them can't handle what men really think and what we really want.
So guys, lie to women.
That's what it is.
So whose fault is that?
That's the man's fault for lying.
And also, can I tell you something?
Holy shit.
Hold on, hold on.
Just to finish the thing here.
I just noticed that every rebuttal you made to her, when she tells you an objective fact, you say, well, how about this and that?
And it's all, at the end of the day, women are the ones making their choices.
So it's one of the two.
It's either you guys want, hold on.
Yeah, but women are the ones picking.
So you have a choice to make.
It's either A, women are bumbling retards that don't deserve rights and shouldn't be able to pick their partners and men step in and do it like before and arrange marriages, or you guys can go ahead and continue to pick your partners and then stay single into your 30s like we have now.
But I swear it's the man that picks who he marries.
Men are gatekeepers of relationships.
Women are gatekeepers of sex.
They pick their women as well.
But you, he has to have someone to commit to, so you have to pick him from- You have to pick each other.
It's a two-way street.
Why is it just the woman?
It's your job to attract them.
No, he's attracted to you really.
No, what comes first in general in 2024?
Sex or relationships?
It depends on who you're asking.
Okay, so who gets to have sex?
Men and women.
No, it's the men that women select.
Yep.
So women are the initial gatekeepers, right?
So that's what we're saying.
Because guys don't get a relationship.
But the guy's not going to get into a relationship unless he's been sexually selected by women, and women are the ones who do sex.
And this actually proves my point earlier, which she alluded to, because she was saying, like, just be honest and I'll give you sex if you say what it is.
And then I asked, okay, when she gave an example, and I said, repeat that sentence, and then she said, oh, I've known this guy for a while.
And women tend to always disqualify all the work men have to put in to attract them.
How long did he know you?
We had been cool for at least like, what, a year or so?
Okay, so we spent a year...
No, but we didn't spend like a year like together or spending time like that, no.
It's like we had spent time with each other briefly, and then life, we didn't see each other, and then before you know it, when we reconnected, it was like, okay, cool, but we just laid out on the table like, look, I ain't looking for anything because I just got out of this.
Okay.
What did he do when he was gone during that time?
I don't know.
I don't give a fuck what he did.
Well, I was living my life.
Well, you clearly did because you hooked up with him, so he had to have told you what he was doing.
You have to have probably been curious.
Yeah, but that's like, I'm not going to say his business.
You see what I'm saying?
We were friends.
Would it be fair to say it leveled up?
What do you mean?
He leveled up.
He was probably more attractive when he came back the second time.
That guy has always been attractive.
Okay.
So if he's always been attractive, he probably did something to level up in that time period.
But what I'm trying to say is that girls tend to look at the finish line.
They don't look at the entire race.
The man had to put in work to some degree to be able to get the sex from you that frankly.
But when I asked you, oh, I'm going to proposition you for sex right away.
You think we just wake up like this?
Some guys are really easy.
You can just We're like, yeah, look, pull up then.
And before you know it, my man's pulled up.
How often does that happen, though?
I mean...
How attractive does a man have to be to be able to get sex on command like that?
He has to have sauce.
He's got to be attractive.
He has to have what?
Sauce.
Okay.
So, okay.
So, it's not easy, then.
Yeah, the same way that it's not easy for just any girl to get sex as well, you know?
And I'll explain to you why.
Because girls don't just step out looking like anything.
They also put in a lot of effort.
Do you realize that you can go outside?
Hold on, hold on.
Stop, man.
This is what I'm trying to say.
You guys don't live in reality.
You can step outside right now go and a dude starts sex with you You being able to get sex and a man being able to get sex don't even come close like it's not the same and Again, it's hard for men to get sex So it's like when girls say this like oh just be honest if I tell you I just want to fucking don't want to give Your relationship 99% of the time I'm not gonna get it and then you even in your example well
we kind of had an understanding and you know we just fucked but he had to know you for a year and be extremely Of course he was hot So he had to reach
a certain baseline.
But then life just got in the way.
Distance.
I think at some point I even left London.
And then came back.
Why are you guys upset that women want child from a man?
And then, yeah, we just like, what?
A conversation just like, you know, it just popped up.
And then before, you know, it's like, you know what?
Yeah, pull up.
And then it was just like that.
Just pull up then.
And then boom, it happened.
And then that's when we was like, okay, cool.
Yeah, but if you said come over and we're going to fuck right now, you wouldn't have went over there.
No, but I've done that to a guy before.
I've been like, look, pull up.
This is what it is.
A man that says that is a bit like...
That's a bit scary.
That's a bit scary, yo.
Women live life on easy mode when it comes to dating so much that you guys are completely unaware of how it...
You guys live life on such an easy mode that you guys are completely unaware of all the work that men have to put in.
To be able to get laid.
We have to put in way more work than you guys.
Way more!
Do you find most men attractive?
Okay, you.
You.
You.
I only find myself attractive.
Fantastic.
No, I don't.
Can I just say something?
Okay, so that proves my point, man.
Do you find most women attractive?
I think it's hard.
Yeah, most women are average, which is fuckable.
It's harder out here for men because guys have to look good.
Some women can go out with no money and there'll be a guy at the bar who will buy them a drink.
A man can't go out with no money.
And expect him to get drinks from a girl, a woman that thinks he's good looking.
So I know a lot of people, especially because I'm older, I know a lot of people like my age, guys who are single.
They're single.
I've got one friend that he has been single for 20 years almost.
I don't know if he's had links or anything, but as far as I know, he hasn't had a girlfriend.
But this guy has a good job, lots of money in the bank, drives a car, He just doesn't have the look.
Women don't look at him.
He's not good looking.
He's not good looking.
Yeah, but us women can learn to love.
But they don't give him a chance.
They don't give him a look.
They don't even look at him.
They don't even look at him.
They're not interested.
He's the guy that the women walk past.
When I meet up with the girls and we see them in the group...
What's his riz like?
Has he got some riz?
Has he got some good banter?
Does he dress nice?
Does he smell good?
No, there's ugly men with money and they've got girls.
When they did that college study, when they got interviews to go out, they got male interviews to go out on a college campus and say to a bunch of women, Will you have sex with me, right?
And then they've got women to go out and do the same thing.
And the percentage of women that said yes to the request, 0%.
The percentage of men who said yes to the request from women, 75%.
So that's the problem, right?
Because what he's saying is correct.
Men are easy.
No, women have it on easy mode, right?
Because all the women in here now...
Because you guys don't make it easy.
No, no, but all the women in here now could potentially go out...
Y'all just pull up.
What I've got to do is send a little meme.
Exactly, exactly.
But that's the point.
But no, that's the point.
That's the point.
That's the problem in the dating marketplace, right?
This is why we've got this, you know, the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer in terms of dating.
And I don't just mean financially.
It's just the top guys are getting more of the action.
The guys who are perceived as low are getting less of the action.
That's increasing.
You know, and it's all doubt.
It's driven by social media.
It's driven by Instagram, the global dating marketplace, etc.
It's just like, and here's the thing, man.
I don't expect them to understand, but girls are never going to get it that it's way harder for men to get attention, even attention from females.
No, that's facts.
No, we do get it.
You guys deal with rejection and things like that.
We do get that.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
You don't understand.
Not only do you not...
Okay, you understand.
Not only that, but you don't even know.
When you meet an attractive guy, you don't even know all the work you had to put in to be that package that you're currently enjoying.
So for example, you go to a pizza spot, right?
Your favorite pizza spot.
You don't know that they had to get the cheese imported from Italy.
You don't know that they had to get the dough at a certain temperature to make it taste a certain way.
You don't know that they imported the sauce from a certain place to have a distinct taste.
You don't know that the oven that they got was thousands upon thousands of dollars to fry it, to cook it just right.
You just enjoy the end product, but you don't know the process that it took to create that pizza.
When you see an attractive man, when you see an attractive man, that man has spent a lot of the times, years if not decades, to create that package that you're currently enjoying.
But you don't understand what goes into it because women don't have to build themselves up at all.
You guys just exist, 18 years old, invited on a fucking yacht.
But who paid for the yacht?
- That sounds like something that Tate said, quote him.
- You pay for yachts?
You pay for yachts?
- No, no.
- Okay.
- You said not always.
- I've never been on one with a man.
- No, but I'm saying like, - 99% of yachts are paid for by men.
- You're either born with the sauce and all that shit or not.
- I want to see the study.
- No, most men actually are not born with the sauce.
They have to learn the sauce.
There's some naturals, but most guys have to learn.
Yeah, that's not a bad thing.
But men also have, like, status when they're around beautiful women.
So it works.
It's like a transactional thing.
But they have to work.
They have to work to earn the status.
Even though they're successful, it doesn't matter.
No one cares.
But he needs to walk in with a beautiful woman.
Then people will really respect him.
Once again, perfect example of what I mean by just looking at the finish line, not looking at the race.
How do you acquire status?
That's what I mean when I say y'all are retarded sometimes.
No offense.
With all due respect.
No, no, no.
I'm not following.
Women lack critical thinking skills.
You guys just look at the end product.
This pizza's good!
But you don't know what it took to make the good pizza.
So what do you think a woman has in her life?
Like you see a guy with 10 girls.
He has status.
That's awesome.
But you don't know what it took for the man to acquire the status.
What do you think a girl goes through?
She's pretty and she gets invited on a yacht.
Not every girl is pretty, you know, especially growing up.
Do you know why?
Average girls have more marketability than celebrity men.
That's what you think.
No, it's true.
No, that's what you think.
Because you know what?
Let me tell you something, okay?
I'm just going to explain to you the difference between...
Stop one second.
Go on.
Because you don't know what you're fucking talking about.
I know what I'm talking about.
I'll tell you why, because I'm a woman and I know the work it takes for a woman to get to a stage where she can even be attractive to a man.
Don't think that women don't do anything, they don't just wake up and go by the bed, you know?
They don't do shit.
And not only that we have more emotional work than you guys.
We go to the gym, we gotta make sure.
Be quiet, hold on.
There's completely average women that we know that have come on our fucking show and had sex with A-list celebrities off of our show.
But that proves my point.
They are easy.
They just want to get their dick wet.
Oh my god, you're not refuting my point.
That women, average chicks, have access to exceptional men.
However, average men cannot attract exceptional women.
Do you understand that?
Okay, yeah.
So therefore, hold on.
So since average women are able to attract exceptional men, by definition that means women have dating on easy mode.
No.
Because their burn of performance is lower.
Look.
This is what I mean.
You just agree with everything I'm saying.
Women have on easy mode.
Not dating.
Serious relationships.
We don't have commitment on easy mode.
We don't have marriage on easy mode.
You're able...
Hold on.
This is what I'm trying to say.
No, no, no, no, no.
And if you don't get wiped, it's your fucking fault.
It comes back to women not having accountability.
You can at least get in the room with Future.
You can at least get in the room with Drake.
You can at least get in the room with a fucking NBA player and show yourself there.
I'm not getting a chance with Rihanna ever, no matter how much status I get.
I'm not getting a chance.
I have to build myself up to be in that room with those bad bitches.
You guys don't.
That's the difference.
And you could be an average fucking girl.
I know average girls that have no future hanging out with Future right fucking now.
That's the difference.
So you cannot sit there and tell me that, oh, women have it hard.
No, you fucking don't, man.
No, you don't.
Women have it easy in every facet of life.
And the problem is we've had women's empowerment content telling us we've had it so hard.
But the truth of the matter is we get into college easier.
We get jobs easier.
We can get into relationships easier.
There's no part of life that is not easier for a woman.
People are just nicer to us because we're women.
And then we go out and we think we're so oppressed, but we're really not.
If you take a man's life in 2024 and a woman's life in 2024, women objectively have it easier.
And again, you have the privilege of saying something ridiculous.
No offense, with all due respect, but I'm using this as an example to show how women lack critical thinking skills.
You have the privilege of saying, oh, just have some status and you'll have women.
What does it take to get status?
It's because it's so much easier for women to get status than men.
It's so much easier for us to get followers.
You guys are born with status.
If you're attractive, how many useless fucking bitches are on Instagram right now?
The keyword is if you are attractive.
Thank you.
It's not hard to be attractive as a female.
It is actually.
You can get surgery.
You can do filters.
That's easy.
You can do that too.
You have access to money.
Really?
You risk your life for beauty?
That's dead.
Hold on.
If you really want to grow up, you can.
But you can be average, put filters on your shit, and be attractive.
There's regular girls, bro, that get DMs from top-tier guys.
They have access to these men.
Myron, what was that thing you retweeted earlier when the guy did like 11,000 swipes or something on dating?
What did you get, 70 dates at the end or something?
Like 17 dates, I swiped the right, yeah, like 11,000 times.
Average guy.
Average guy.
Yeah, exactly.
And the bar for women, like he said, the reality is the bar for women to be considered attractive, not hot, not super beautiful, whatever, but attractive enough is significantly lower than it is for men, right?
You know, a girl, as long as she's kind of slim, she's kind of pretty, she's in the room.
Right?
She's in the room with Drake.
You know, she can put some makeup on.
She can do a bit of, you know, whatever.
She's on the yacht with Drake.
It's not actually that hard.
That's different from marriage material, though.
Well, that is, that's a different matter.
But like Myron said, but the reality is at least you're in the ballpark then.
I get it, yeah.
So then you've got the opportunity.
You get the opportunity.
Fair enough.
And this is why I don't respect, like, when you guys sit here and say, oh, I want to do this or whatever, like, women don't have to earn their value.
Like, if you meet a top-tier guy and he doesn't commit to you, you suck!
Why can't we call women losers?
Why can't we tell them you just suck, like you're not attractive?
Because if you go on a date with a guy, right, and you have good girlfriend traits, you're not annoying, you're not a fucking bimbo, you're not stupid as fuck, you're not fat, you're not crass, you're not obnoxious, you're not...
Like, a guy will probably wife you, bro.
So my thing is, like, if you can't get wife, that's your fault as the woman.
But at least you get the opportunity to meet the man.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Y'all get to take the shot at least.
We don't even get to take the shot unless we pay to get the fucking basketball.
I don't think women get that shit.
You guys get the shot.
We don't.
We have to be exceptional to even get an opportunity.
I feel sad for the kind of men that you know you guys are because you surround yourself with a lot of race girls.
I have to say.
My girls don't act like that.
I have to say.
No, you've not met my girls, actually.
You've met people that I chose to bring on your podcast, actually.
You've not met my friends, Pearl.
I'll tell you that much.
You know some people that I know.
I want to speak on this.
Hey, you can leave.
Hey, we just have a rule.
We take your IG off.
It's cool, though.
If you gotta leave, you gotta leave.
I totally understand that.
That's totally fine.
You can go.
It's all right.
That's fine.
No, because that was something that I thought when I first came on the podcast was that, you know, not all women are like this.
And I just kind of thought that Myron and Fresh were just interviewing Miami girls until I moved to London across the pond and I got the same responses from women from Africa, from Italy, from literally all over the world that they get in Miami.
You know, women are women.
We just have nature.
What was that nature, sorry?
Being delusional.
Yeah.
Okay.
Being delusional.
Same as men.
You just tried to argue with me that a woman's dating life is similar in difficulty to a man's, and that's just not true at all.
Bro, I'll tell you why.
Wait, bro, hold on, bro, hold one second.
He addressed me.
Let me tell you something.
For example, okay?
Me...
I'm single, I'm stepping out.
Me, I decide to be open-minded and give men opportunities to speak to them.
And what I find...
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
My bad, my bad.
Okay.
And I'm telling you for facts in modern day, the same way you guys can complain about women is the same way we complain about men.
For me, I find it to be, I actually find it very difficult to even speak to men.
Not just because of what I look like, it's also because of the fact that a lot of the time men will be thinking, okay, she thinks like, you know, she's comfortable, she's very much, you know, established in herself and they tend to challenge me for no reason.
They're not even nice to me.
So me, I'm not going to lie to you.
The same way you complain about women, I complain about men.
Yeah, it will be easier for me if I want to have sex with a man, but it will be much harder for me to be able to respect a man to a point where I will say, yeah, I would marry you.
Oh yeah, I would give the opportunity to even get close to me that way.
Because a lot of men are letting themselves down And what it even means to be a basic man.
So it's the guy's fault?
No, I'm just saying.
I'm not saying it's the guy's fault.
I'm talking from my perspective.
The same way you guys can complain is the same way I complain.
You guys find it difficult.
I find it difficult.
But you're not refusing to get any of his points.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just adding my point.
I also find it difficult.
So I don't think it's okay.
Useless points.
Useless points.
For you, but it's my experience.
Let's be objective here.
Let's be objective here.
Let's do a little bit of accountability.
You're 31 years old.
You're a fairly masculine woman.
So you say.
You are.
Well, I don't know.
A lot of people tell me I'm not.
They say that it's dependent on the man.
If you find me masculine, maybe you're not masculine enough.
No, no, no, no.
You're not agreeable, right?
Not with you.
You're just not agreeable, which is a masculine trait.
You pursued higher education.
You work in the professional world.
I'm a teacher, so that's a feminine profession, really, isn't it?
Are you a teacher?
You said that you counsel people.
Yes.
Behavior management.
I work with children.
I help them.
Okay.
Again, you don't have children, right?
And you don't have a man.
No.
Okay, so you're pursuing career?
No, I'm not pursuing a career.
I'm just living my life because I have bills to pay.
Okay.
Look, whether you want to accept it or not, right?
And women get really mad when I say this.
No, that's fine.
But the fact that you have bills to pay means you have to step into your masculine to work, to not be agreeable.
I'm not trying to shit on you, but working and pursuing higher education, et cetera, inevitably masculinizes you as a female.
Well, I believe that, for me, higher education gave me the opportunity to be around men of value.
Let's go back to the original point that I was trying to make here.
And it does add value to me.
In Africa, women being educated is a good thing.
Okay, look, again, that's great.
But all I'm simply trying to say here is because you're saying, oh, well, I can complain about men too, blah, blah, blah, all this other stuff.
Mm-hmm.
You do understand that at 31 years old, being a fairly masculine woman and having a higher education, etc, actually hurts you when it comes to finding a man, right?
Well, I'm not gonna lie to you.
What I'm doing right here is I'm talking to you, somebody that I don't necessarily agree with, but I don't surround myself with people like you.
So the people that I am around, that are more like the people that are my type, we don't need to disagree.
In fact, I don't have this experience with other men, I only have it with men that come on this podcast.
So really, I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm the problem.
Maybe I'm looking at you guys and think that you probably just don't understand.
Okay, let me be objective about this.
If you're 31 years old as a woman and you haven't been able to find a guy to take you seriously that you actually respect and admire...
That's not why I'm single.
Hold on, stop.
If you're in your 30s and you haven't found a man that you love, admire, and respect and that's going to take you serious and reciprocate, you failed as a female with the plethora of options that women have nowadays.
Well, to be honest, I'm not going to lie.
For example, I'll quote this.
Jordan B. Peterson said that the higher intellect or the higher IQ a woman has, the more likely it is for her to find it more difficult to find a partner because of hypergamy.
So, listen, I'm not going to lie to you.
I am not an average woman.
So that means that for me, it's much harder to find a man.
So I'm not going to rush and be with just anybody that doesn't suit me because then we get together and it's going to be chaos.
So I'm not going to be with a man that finds me masculine because he's too weak.
Because a real man does not find me masculine.
A real man thinks I'm actually cute and they make me feel sick and I actually sit down with him and I'm quite feminine.
It's interesting.
Anytime, and I found this very interesting, anytime a woman prefaces a statement with a real man, it's always followed with him lowering his standards or dealing with some fuckery.
For example, you're saying a real man would be able to tolerate me, etc.
Let me tell you something.
I'll be very candid with you.
I'm multi-millionaire.
A lot of my friends are multi-millionaires.
Successful, etc.
We don't fucking like women like you.
No offense.
With all due respect.
Hold on, stop.
Let me finish.
Because we don't want to go out and conquer the world and come back and deal with females like you.
Because you guys are annoying.
Masculine women don't attract masculine men.
If I wore heels on fucking Saturday, you would never accept me.
So why is it appropriate for you to be arguing and be masculine?
Because you are a masculine woman.
Trust me, you can't hide that shit.
You are.
Fine.
It's okay.
You are a masculine woman.
I'm a strong woman.
Fantastic.
Which means you're masculine.
That's fine.
But masculine men want feminine women that don't argue with them.
Period.
Okay.
I argue with you because you're not my man.
If you're my man, you'll be different.
And I find it interesting how every single one of my successful friends think the same.
And here's the other thing.
You know what?
Regular guys think the same too.
You know what the difference is?
We don't have to tolerate masculine women once you reach a certain level.
Then let me tell you something.
Tell your average and successful men to leave me alone because they won't.
That's it.
Tell them to leave me alone.
What they don't want to commit to you then.
No, I don't want to commit to them because as much as they love me, I don't want them because they don't suit me.
That's why I said I'm going to keep this whole relationship thing quiet because I don't want to break anybody's heart.
But I don't want to confirm anything either.
Keep it very ambiguous.
Because there's a lot of people that don't leave me alone.
The man that you want doesn't want you back.
That's what this comes down to.
Because if he did want you back, you would be married right now.
That's not true.
Because you and I both know, at 31 years old, as a female, not being married, you're an objective failure.
Not really.
Yes, you are.
That's down to you.
You're an objective failure.
Let me tell you.
And this is the reason why I also don't believe in statistics because you are making an assumption.
I'm not using a statistic off of this.
I beg, I beg.
I haven't finished.
You're using your general perception of what you've met of people to make a conclusion about me when you don't know me.
I'm sitting in a podcast, Fresh and Fit podcast, as a woman.
Of course I'm going to speak to you like this because as far as I'm concerned, this is a debate.
And I know how to debate very well when I want to.
You actually don't.
Yeah, I do actually.
The only difference is that you guys are here shouting and every time I try to speak you cut me off.
That's it.
Literally.
Because you ramble on and you make arguments that don't have to do with the point of discussion.
The arguments are simply parallels to show you that your logic doesn't necessarily make sense.
It's not a correct and exact science.
We were talking about the term abuse being changed and then you tried to link that to racism in prison.
No, I explained to you how terms within legal terms, they change.
They evolve through time.
And then you went back to racism.
Justice and the legal system, they evolve through time.
What was the law 10 years ago is not the same law now.
Everything evolves.
Everything evolves.
Even the way people...
Listen, the fact that we have policies for equality and diversity tells you everything.
The fact that we have anti-racist laws tells you everything.
There's a lot.
Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
Look.
The reason why I said if a woman's 30 plus and doesn't have a man and she's an objective, the reason why I say this is because we know that women derive pleasure, right, from family and children.
And you kind of gave yourself away a second ago.
You didn't say, I'm not chasing a career, I'm just chasing happiness, right?
Or I'm just living my life, right?
And working is a means to an end.
Right?
I have to pay bills.
Okay.
But if you had the opportunity, actually, you actually said this earlier.
That's why I love writing things down.
You would prefer a man to pay a majority of the bills if you could get it, right?
Now you don't.
So you're working just as a means to an end, which is cool.
I accept that.
That's actually why most women work as a means to an end.
But if women had the opportunity, they would prefer to be with a man that they love and respect, they could take care of them.
But that's not easy to find.
And that's a minority of men that can actually provide that.
So if a minority of men can actually provide...
Yes, that's a minority of men.
Because you would have had one by now if it was a majority.
Well, no, that's not why I would also just have a man by now.
There's also context to behind the scenes.
You don't know my story.
Fantastic, which makes you even more selective.
Yeah, a little bit.
Which makes the man even rarer.
Which proves my point once again.
And also as well.
Like, see, you do realize the more you talk, the more you hang yourself.
No, I'm not trying to hang myself.
I'm just saying.
It's not, it's nothing.
You're picky as hell.
But you're 31 years old.
Listen.
Look.
I am picky.
Why am I going to pick a girl that's 31, that's argumentative and masculine?
Why am I going to pick you?
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
You don't want to Stop.
Stop.
Ultimately, I'm going to make the decision, correct?
I'm speaking generally here.
I'm not talking about me, myself, as Mario Gates.
I'm saying, why would a man that's attractive, that's at the top of his game, get with a 31-year-old woman who's lost her value, no offense, because we value age and youth and beauty.
Why would he get with an older woman?
Would he get with a younger woman that's more attractive and in her prime?
There's many reasons.
But to be fair as well, when you described the kind of man that you wanted, you basically exactly described the archetypal high-value man.
No, it doesn't.
Which is what he's talking about.
No, it doesn't.
So the question stands, would that guy that you described want to get...
One of the things I said first was, I don't give a damn if the guy's got money or not, as long as he's not an absolute idiot and he's able to want to build himself to a point where he can help me as the partner that he's meant to be when, for example, we have children, when things happen, when life happens.
Simple.
We need to have stability.
Simple.
I don't need a man to be rich.
I need a man to give me stability and to make me wear when I need it just by looking at me.
Simple.
He doesn't need to talk.
Look, what you're demanding, you no longer qualify for.
Well, that's what you think.
It's the truth.
It's been proven literally by what's going on right now.
You're single.
You're objectively proving it for me.
It's okay.
The way you're trying to present it is as if I'm single because my value is lower and people are not picking me.
That is not the truth.
I am single for many reasons that I don't need to go into right here because they're personal.
But I've got a million options.
If I want to tomorrow, I will.
You don't want them though.
They're not real options.
No, they are options.
No, they're not.
Because you don't want them.
See, this is what I'm trying to say when I say y'all are retarded, bro.
Dudes that you don't like or don't respect and don't want to be with are not fucking options.
They're guys that give you attention.
They're guys that give you attention that you don't like.
Because if you did, you would have been with them.
Listen, there's men that give me attention that I don't like.
There are men that give me attention that I think, oh, you're okay.
And there are men that give me attention that I think, actually, you're a great candidate.
And also, our standards have gone higher.
And you don't get with them.
Which means they're lacking in something.
No, I don't get with them because I'm not going to get with every guy that is supposedly good.
So I have to take my time because I'm not loose.
But then you're not getting with any guy.
How does that make sense?
And your value is rapidly declining in the process.
I don't care.
I don't care because I'm somebody that trusts a lot of people.
If I trust a lot of people, I'm not going to pick the first one that comes to me.
How many people have you tried?
Listen, I don't need to try people because I'm not doing that.
Also, women's standards have gone really high as well.
Just wanted to add to that.
That's probably why then she's not picking.
My standards have to be high.
Unfortunately, if you're a man, because if my standards are not high, I will destroy that man.
You're high standards.
You're high standards.
See, this is what I'm trying to say, bro.
Like, you can't have these high standards no more.
You're 31.
You're 31, bro.
You're 31.
Like, yo, we need to bring you back.
I can't say that to her.
It's the truth.
This is what, yo!
She's choosing to be single.
Shut the fuck up.
Everybody shut up for two seconds.
Because this is crazy.
What if I said, yo, I play video games every day.
I'm 300 pounds.
I made $10,000 last year.
I want a bad bitch.
What would you guys say to me?
There's niggas that are doing that still.
She had one.
Am I delusional?
Am I a dumbass for thinking that?
I am.
That's delusional because I don't qualify for what I want.
I'm a brokeie.
I'm a loser.
And here's the thing.
Reality is going to let me know.
Ain't no bad bitch is going to want me.
Okay?
I got to get out there and become that guy to be attractive.
Why is that women think, I'm not going to change.
I'm going to get older.
I'm going to wait it out.
And I still want a top tier guy to pick me.
It's not happening, bro.
It's not happening.
Trust me.
If you're single at 31, chances are you're going to stay single past 31.
And this is statistically proven too.
That's okay, that's okay.
Myron, they become side chicks at 35.
Yeah, like bro, this is crazy.
Don't worry.
This is crazy.
My reality, you've never met a woman like me.
My reality is quite different.
I've met any woman like you.
You wish, girl.
I meet them all the time.
You really wish.
That's why you don't want it now though.
I really do.
That's why I'm the only girl that comes here as often as I do.
You are as crazy as you are.
You are on time.
I do appreciate that.
Punctuality is masculine trait.
Listen, as much as you're talking and saying all of this, you're the person that says the reason why you come here is because you don't complain.
You come, you do.
I don't complain.
I'm not saying you have no positive qualities.
I could list them right now.
You don't even know me, but I'm just telling you.
I've known you for like a year.
I know your name is Hannah Paul Davis.
What's my surname even?
See, that's a masculine trait.
Interjecting, not being agreeable.
We all did it.
But you the most, by far.
You and this other girl right here.
Yo, we're going in circles, man.
I haven't spiked the whole night, so...
You can say something.
What do you want to say?
Moroccan, why are you single?
We've given you opportunities to talk, and you just said, no, I don't want to say anything.
I am newly single, and I have been single for three months, and I chose to leave the man.
I was going to get married.
He was perfect on paper, but I walked away.
Why?
Stupid.
Because I am very...
And this is why, like, yo, this is why I'm trying to say it.
Arranged marriages are a thing because women make bad decisions.
No, because I'm like you.
I'm very picky and I know what I want.
And it's like, although someone's maybe perfect for me on paper and, yeah, he treats me like a princess and things like that, there's things that I need.
And if that person doesn't have it...
You're 29.
Yes, sir.
A lot of women value their happiness.
Can you tell us what the things were?
I mean, I know it's, like, personal.
Can you be a bit specific, just out of interest?
The person was a people pleaser.
Not just with me, but with the family, his friends.
It was like the people around him, he was just...
He's a nice guy.
He's a really nice guy.
I have a question for you guys.
Can I ask a question?
I was very happy with him.
I did not leave him for that reason.
He made some very rash decisions.
He did something really stupid at one point.
We're supposed to be getting engaged and married this year.
And he suddenly goes and invests so much money into some random business just because his friends convinced him to.
I was not okay with that.
Oh, I want that for the ring instead.
Did you talk to your parents about this?
Or your brother or some shit?
Yeah, my family met him, yeah.
And what did they tell you when you said, I'm going to leave?
Was he Arab himself?
He was Pakistani.
My brother is in support of me leaving him.
But my mum is kind of like, oh my god, you're 29, you need to get married.
No, your mum sees what it is.
She's panicking, but my brother's like, no, you need someone better.
Well, your brother knows his friend, I guess.
My brother's 17 and he...
He's a kid!
His balls haven't even dropped yet, he don't know shit!
You're 30 years old!
Nigga!
She went up a teenager!
Nigga can't even drink alcohol!
She listened to a minor about her life!
Oh shit, I'm gonna crush the car!
Shout out to my brother.
That's crazy!
I know what I'm doing.
I know what I'm doing.
He wasn't my husband.
I know what I'm doing.
And she values her happiness over that.
I value myself so much.
I have so much respect for myself.
I bring so much to the station.
And I will meet my husband.
How long has you been together?
He wasn't that person.
How long has you been together?
I knew you were going to dump him.
I just want you to know the past year I knew you were going to dump him.
Really?
Yeah, based on how you spoke about him, I know.
I already know.
Yeah, it was because you valued, I could tell you liked his resources more than him by the way you spoke about him.
Damn.
Damn!
I could tell he was like a rich guy.
So you are a gold digger.
So you are a gold digger.
You got a good heart there.
I could tell, no, sorry, that sounded really harsh.
I didn't mean it to be, but it sounded like when I heard you talk about him, I guessed Richard Dork.
That's what I guessed.
You know what it is?
It wasn't even that.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm off.
Maybe I'm off.
So I don't know.
But that was just based on how you talked about him.
It was more so like he just lacked boundaries.
And that's very important for me.
But the thing is boundaries are boundaries.
Yeah, you need a guy to tell you to shut up.
Bro, put the camera on you, man.
That's why I tell you motherfuckers, bro.
Women deserve less booking stores right now.
I tell you guys this shit all the time.
They don't know what the fuck they want.
You're a nice guy.
You're a fuck.
Be quiet.
You're a nice guy.
You make money.
You're successful.
Oh, I'm going to give you the world, all this other shit.
You go ahead and you invest to make more money for the relationship, by the way.
And girls get mad.
Like, that got to be my engagement.
And they break up with you.
Bro, that's what I tell y'all, man.
Be fucking...
I have the frame, man.
Have the frame.
This is an example of a guy that's a pussy.
But here's the thing.
He had no frame and that's why she left him.
Boundaries are for guys.
This is what I learned.
Boundaries are for guys you don't really like.
What do you even mean by he didn't have boundaries though?
He didn't have rules on her.
She did whatever she wanted.
Is that how you mean it?
No.
So he would never ever express He would never say, these are the rules.
I don't want you doing this.
When I would go and do something, he would hold it against me.
Fuck it, the red pills are dropping.
The red pills are dropping from the sky, man.
He would bottle it up, and then one day what he would do is he would try and get revenge on me.
So for example...
Passive aggressive?
Yeah, passive aggressive.
So for example, I went to a place called Tramp here in London.
Oh my God.
Red flag.
You can't make this up!
You can't make this up!
Hold on a second.
For dinner.
I went there for dinner.
I did not go to party.
I went with my friend for dinner.
And I... And I went to the trap house to get medicine.
He knew I was out.
I was speaking to him the whole night.
I even sent him pictures of my lobster pasta, you know.
And he was like, oh yeah, enjoy yourself, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, a few weeks later, like, I didn't say that I went to trap.
Who paid for that dinner?
My friend was on the phone to me and he...
Who paid for the dinner?
Sorry?
Who paid for that dinner?
I paid for myself.
My friend paid for herself.
Just with you and your girlfriend?
Me and my girl, yeah.
And he knew.
He knows that friend because she always drops me home and he knows I'm okay with her.
So why did it become an issue then?
So...
Because I didn't say that I was specifically at Trump.
So he had a problem with that for some reason.
He was like, why didn't you say he was in Trump?
A week later, he decided to go to Paris randomly with his friends.
Didn't tell me.
Acted like he was in a country.
And I'm like, things like that.
You're just playing games.
I don't mess with things like that.
Be a man and say it with your chest.
In the start, tell me I'm not okay with you going to these places.
Don't come to me two weeks later and then suddenly try and, you know, This is actually a really good learning moment for the audience out there.
This is an example of having money but still being a bitch and you lose your girl.
She only tolerated him because he had money.
That's the only reason she tolerated him.
That's not true.
I cared about him and he was an amazing person and we were gonna get married this year.
Unfortunately, too many things...
If you didn't have the money, you wouldn't have been with him.
You wouldn't give him a chance.
So many things kept coming up and I was like, I can't marry this person.
If you didn't have the money, you wouldn't have let it last as long as it did, bro.
Like, come on, man.
But it is an important learning moment.
It is an important learning moment.
Of course.
Of course.
Just quickly.
It's an important learning moment.
For guys out there to learn.
Because guys, there are guys out there.
Some guys think it's all about looks, right?
But there's a big contingent of guys who think it's all about money.
It's like, if you've got money, that's it.
You're sorted.
And it's not true.
It's not true.
It's not true.
That's what I was saying.
Because you need the...
She'll tolerate you.
Yeah.
And then if you spend that money for the engagement, she'll break up with you.
But you've got to have the...
You've got to have the reasons.
You've got to have the edge.
You've got to have everything.
You've got to have everything.
Exactly.
And notice she's following her path, not his path.
Yes.
You know what?
The money that was supposed to be on the wedding.
You know what?
Fuck that.
We're putting it towards our future for an investment.
She said, you know what?
Fuck that.
It should be towards the wedding.
Yeah.
So ultimately, it was your path, not his path.
I don't want to be an asshole, but I said this in my book.
Most women want to get married, but they don't want to be wives.
No, how about you say that that's showing me that he's perhaps not making mature decisions and being quite reckless and maybe putting my life at risk.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
He's putting my life at risk.
Stop, stop, stop.
With all due respect, the guy had money when you met him, right?
Yeah.
So who the fuck are you to tell him how to invest?
Exactly.
Exactly!
Like, bro, get out of here, man!
There is a huge difference.
I've spoken to guys who also agreed with me.
They're like, yeah, it's the wrong timing.
No, no, no, no, no.
Dudes that got money, a lot of the times, like, even the biggest simps will have some money somewhere else that you don't fucking know about.
He might have had some money somewhere else.
Maybe some crypto shit, whatever.
If he made an investment like that and he made the money in the first place, trust me, he probably knew what he was doing.
And I find it amazing how he has more money than you, more competent than you, more successful than you, but you're trying to dictate how we invest the money that he worked for and say, that was the good decision.
When the reality is women are 80% of the consumer base and you guys control three quarters of debt.
Y'all don't know how to spend no fucking money.
Y'all are retards with money.
No offense.
It was the truth.
Objectively speaking.
I got the numbers to show me.
I can agree with that one.
But you over here trying to tell a rich nigga how to invest his money.
And you mad because he didn't spend it on a fucking wedding.
At Trump as well.
Come on.
Yo, I'm going to keep it a thousand.
I'm going to keep it a thousand.
You might want to get back with him, man.
He wants me back, and I did say to him...
If he's watching now, have you got a...
No, no, no.
What I will say is, when we broke up, he was distraught, and I did say to him, if it's meant to be, we will actually find our way back.
You're controlling the problem.
That's your...
No offense.
I'm not saying I'm perfectly good.
I wouldn't go back to him.
You're not going to respect him.
You can't.
And that's worse.
You might end up appeasing him.
You're never going to like guys you can control.
Because I know he's a good guy and he has amazing qualities.
I'm not blind to that.
You know what it is?
He can't tell her no.
So the problem is she's leading the whole interaction.
And if she doesn't get her way, oh, you know what?
Fuck this guy.
And here's the other thing too.
If you knew breaking up with him, he would be like, fuck this bitch.
I'm blocking her.
I'm never talking to her again.
You wouldn't have left him.
You know, you're leaving him because you're like, yo, I could probably do better.
Because, like, right now you're like, okay.
You know what she did?
This is what she did.
She basically left the casino up and she was like, you know what?
I could make a little more.
Okay, I'm going back in.
And she went back in the casino, but she don't realize the casino's going to close in about an hour.
I have a question.
No, because I had better before him, and I chose him because I wanted something different.
Wait, wait, you said before.
What also was going on before?
Because I had so many options before him, and I didn't choose those people.
What happened before, though?
What do you mean?
Like, you said before, that's a key word.
Like, before I met him.
The other guys?
No, you were younger back then.
You were younger.
Yeah, but you were younger.
What, two years ago?
Yeah.
Are you saying like guys with money or something like this?
I had many options.
And I chose him because he was loyal, he was honest, he had all these amazing qualities.
But it was when he started behaving like this and switching up and doing things like this, I was like, I can't marry this guy, this is scary.
I want to tell you something I noticed.
Whenever women use the traits that you just said, like loyal, like the stuff that you just said, they always dump them.
Like I've just noticed that the past couple of years.
But the intention was not to dump him.
You sound like you pity him.
It doesn't matter what your intention, like men don't care about your intentions.
They don't care.
They look at what you do.
And so if you're listing, like, he's loyal, he's honest, he's this, men are going to hear that and say, oh, well, if I'm loyal and honest and this to her, then she's going to dump me too.
I mean, they're kind of not, with all due respect, they're kind of anti-seductive qualities in a sense.
Because if you think about the archetypal bad boy that women supposedly want, right, the James Bond, you know, the Daniel Craig, you know, is he loyal?
Is he nurturing?
Is he all those things?
But I chose him because he didn't have those things.
Right, but what gives you the tingles?
Was there a cheater before?
I feel like there was a cheater before him.
You know what's funny?
Troy, she had fun with the guys that were fun, exciting, bad boys.
So you know what?
I'm getting older.
Time to settle down.
I'm going to find that guy's loyal.
He's got to take care of me.
And he's somewhat nice to me.
Because he chose this guy.
Unfortunately, a nice guy with money doesn't mean frame.
So by default, he stayed in the game for a little bit.
Oh, you know what?
He's choosing money and business over me.
We're happier with a guy that cheats than a guy that's safe.
I don't know.
Maybe you can say no, and I get it.
I used to say no, that's not true.
But I just look at what we do.
I think it's more in the middle.
I feel like it's just the way someone behaves.
I want someone who's just a short.
Women don't respect loyal men.
They don't.
Because when I'm loyal to you, especially sexually, what that basically says is I can only get sex from you and therefore I am victim to whatever you want.
Just like the guy that was sexless.
You need to know that you could be replaced at any time.
That's the only thing women respect.
So would you cheat on your spouse then?
Yes.
100%.
I don't know.
You know what?
Yo, you think I'm going to rise up and do all this shit to fuck one bitch?
Are y'all crazy?
And I want to tell you something.
Would you get married then?
Huh?
Would you get married then?
Marriage is a scam.
If I was to get married, I wouldn't do it with the state.
If I was to get married, I wouldn't do it with the state.
I'd do it religiously only.
I wouldn't do it with the state involved.
I mean, that's a whole other conversation.
But I respect guys like you who can just outright say that this is what I'm about.
But it's the men that don't say it, that's the problem.
But you should have common sense to know that's how they're going to move anyway.
Your culture has common sense enough to know that men are going to do it.
Yes.
And it's been that way for centuries.
So why do you think men are going to change now?
Yeah, but then the men in my culture, they're not dishonest about it.
In a lot of cases, they're not dishonest about it.
Whether they're dishonest about it or not is irrelevant if you know it's going to happen, right?
If I tell you it's raining outside and I give you an umbrella, but it doesn't rain and it's sunshine, fantastic!
But isn't it good to have that umbrella so you can put it out when the rain comes?
Because you know it's going to come?
That doesn't make any sense.
What's that got to do with the situation?
If I tell you that all men are going to cheat in general, most men are going to cheat in general, your culture actually braced you for this.
Why are you talking about umbrellas?
Rihanna, get it.
Rihanna, bro!
Umbrella.
That makes sense.
See, Fresh, you're smart.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Do you understand an analogy?
Oh, the same way I try to do analogies and you call me stupid.
Sorry, my bad.
I forgot.
You didn't make an analogy.
I did make various analogies.
You didn't make any analogies.
That made sense.
So, what I'm saying is that your own culture told you what I just said.
If most men in a balance of probabilities are going to cheat, you should probably just accept it.
And you even said it yourself.
Do you think that's the right thing to do, though?
Yes.
And I absolutely think...
So your risk of spreading STIs, causing emotional damage in multiple households...
Okay, women always use the STI argument.
Having kids out of wedlock and all of that, you know.
Condoms pretty much destroy that, right?
Guys shouldn't be idiots.
Like, obviously, don't fucking...
You know, you should get tested and everything else like that.
Or have sex with your girl with condom.
How about that?
That works too, actually.
So, no one wants to do that, but you could do that as well.
Girls always want to use the STI example, which is a retarded example.
What I'm saying is this.
I don't want more women to do, because with all due respect, what you did was very dumb.
You're with a successful guy that has money, that loved you, and treated you well, and you broke up with him over...
Him not spending money or engagement, which is ridiculous to me.
But the problem is that women are delusional, right?
What I mean by it, they'll have a good guy in front of them and they'll think, I could do better.
The grass green on the other side.
Or, oh, I want this guy that's six foot five that's attractive and makes money.
He's only going to be loyal to me.
Men think like that too, though.
How?
We can't be delusional like y'all.
We can't.
Remember the example I gave you earlier?
I'm a fucking loser.
I don't make no money.
I'm fat.
I'm not gonna get no bitches.
But you could be fat and retarded as a female and still get invited on a yacht.
And I want to say what he was saying about men not being loyal.
I'll tell you, like three years ago again, I thought they were crazy, because I was like, what are you talking about?
But the thing is, I do this show, and I'll interview guys that'll argue with me, like, vehemently.
They'll say, like, cheating is so wrong.
Cheating is so wrong.
It is so wrong.
It is so wrong.
And they all cheat.
Even the guys that'll get on these podcasts and argue so vehemently that it is wrong, they always have something.
If there's one thing you ladies are going to take from this podcast for me, because I probably triggered you and you don't like it, that's fine.
I'll give you one thing.
If you're with a guy that you like and mind and respect, and he does everything else right, and he fucks a bitch every now and then, and you leave him, you're a fucking dumbass.
You're a real big dumbass.
Especially if you're picky.
Because chances are you're not going to find that guy again.
Exactly.
And then, let's say you find another guy, you gotta do the same shit!
I think, you know what I said about cheating respectfully and disrespectfully?
I think that also comes into play.
If you've got the woman there, you do it every now and again.
She doesn't come into contact with the wife, not trying to cause havoc in a relationship.
You know what you guys should do?
Not fine, but I get it.
You guys should be intelligent.
My chick, she's smart.
She gets it.
So you're in a relationship?
Yes, open on my end only.
Open up my end only.
That's the only way it goes, baby.
That's how it is.
Okay.
You know, men lead, women follow.
But you said you were rich, so you kind of, you give her...
That's not just this.
She just was a rich dude.
He was a bitch.
So, like, no offense.
No, he was not.
That's not fair.
You just said he couldn't stand on boundaries.
Can I ask you a question, sir?
That's the definition of being a bitch.
If you're not rich, can we just...
If you're not rich, could you have made that mess up your goal?
It's not just about having money, because if I just had money, she'd walk all over me.
It's about saying, this is how it is.
You want to be with me?
This is how it is.
I guarantee she's not okay with it.
Deep down, she's not okay with it.
No, she accepts it because she knows this is what comes to the territory.
That's it.
If I was just rich, she would be like, she would probably have some rules for me.
No, because you're rich.
That's a component.
I'm not going to sit here and be delusional.
That's absolutely a component.
So basically, you're saying that men will cheat.
If you're talking to an average man that doesn't necessarily provide enough to even blind his girl, then he's fucked.
And it's kind of irresponsible to kind of say these things.
99% of men...
Okay, look, look, look.
99% of men...
Want to have multiple women, it's just that they don't have the sexual market value to do it, and sexual market value encompasses many things.
There's rich guys that can barely pull it off.
Or they gotta pay escorts or they gotta sneak around.
I'm not sneaking around in my own fucking house.
My girl don't talk back to me.
This whole situation, there's no arguments.
This is how it is.
She packs my fucking condoms when I travel.
That's how real it is.
I feel sorry for her.
And here's the thing.
No, no, no, no, no.
She lives a great fucking life and she's a beautiful girl.
She's hotter than all the girls here, no offense.
But what I'm trying to explain to you ladies is if you got a guy that checks off all the boxes, you got to pay the price.
You got to pay the price for that man checking all those boxes.
He didn't check all those boxes off to just fuck you.
Would you say your girlfriend's a gold digger?
Yeah, she is.
They all are to a degree, of course.
Can we just...
But here's the thing.
But she's intelligent enough to understand...
If I want to deal with this kind of guy, it comes with these kinds of problems.
So what's better?
You want to be with a brokie that might cheat on you anyway, or a guy that has money but is a simp and can't enforce boundaries so you're not sexually aroused by him.
Yeah, but then between brokie and rich, there's so much in between.
So I wouldn't want to be with a man like you, for example.
Not because you're not good looking.
You're very attractive and this and that.
And I know you can say that you wouldn't want to be with a woman like me, right?
That's fine.
You're entitled to your choice.
I'm entitled to mine.
I actually think that your success makes you look like an asshole.
And that doesn't look attractive to me.
Whereas, I'm going to then go on the other side.
Whereas, Fresh, he's been sitting there being much more...
She's rising up Fresh now.
No, no.
I'm just comparing and contrasting.
Listen, I'm just comparing and contrasting.
Listen, I'm just comparing and contrasting.
What are you doing after the show?
Go for it.
Do you want it?
She could be your first date on The Bachelor.
Can I finish?
No, I'm just explaining.
Listen, and I know that this is nothing personal.
I'm just telling you from my impression of you.
The same way you have an impression of me being masculine, I have an impression of you that you come across more like an asshole.
And you're both rich, I'm guessing.
Listen, wait.
I know that he's fresh and fit, so both of you make good money.
I can see both of your bezels.
You're doing all right.
But he doesn't need to be an outspoken asshole just because he's rich.
Whereas you come across as that.
So for example, for me, I can be with a successful man.
I just told the truth.
No, but that's okay.
He can talk the truth as well, but he doesn't need to talk like you.
See, you know what's funny?
He's telling the truth.
You know what I'm gonna do?
Light her ass.
I'm alive from the start to the end.
But you would never know that.
He's being honest though.
I'm telling you how men think and you don't like it.
But that's okay.
For me, you can think whatever you think, but I prefer that to that.
He thinks just like me!
That's okay, but I prefer this attitude to that.
The same way that every girl thinks the same and you prefer a girl that's more quiet than me.
This is why women can't handle the truth.
Because honestly speaking, they want to be like you.
Can we just stop capping?
How many guys in your life have you really, really, really liked?
Like really, really, really, really liked.
Might come across twice a lifetime.
Yeah, one, two, maybe, if that.
You would have accepted it.
I can't even think of one, to be honest.
You can't think of one.
Goddamn.
I literally never liked anyone properly.
I think I'm so picky.
Seriously?
Yeah.
So even the...
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, okay, dial on, dial on, but everyone else.
Wow.
I just told you guys.
I just gave you guys the formula for success.
If you want to be with a super hyper attractive guy that's hyper masculine, etc.
You don't have any say.
He's going to do what he wants to do.
Obviously, you're going to be protected and provided for because that's what guys that are super masculine do, right?
But you got to deal with Masculine problems.
Successful guy problems.
It is what it is.
That's okay.
He doesn't need to prove a point.
I want to ask a question because I do feel like you guys have a ton of insight.
How many women have you interviewed by now?
Over 2,500.
We're pushing on 3K now.
I think like 2,700, 2,800 last time I checked.
Wild.
And how many would you say...
And you all say the same thing.
No offense.
And how many would you say high-value men do you know?
A lot.
Just ballpark it.
Like I mean in the grand scheme of men or like we we know a good amount but obviously our own personal uh anecdotal experience is like limited right in the grand thing.
I'm just curious like what what can we as women do to be more attractive to high value men?
Oh that's a great question.
Well the big one I said because I actually ask all my buddies this behind the scenes.
Tate bros, Brandon Carter, all my guys that are super successful, all my friends.
And I'll be like, yo man, what is it?
And it's universal.
Quiet, not argumentative, not a pain in the ass, et cetera.
Men make money and have to fight the world, especially super successful guys, so the last thing they want to do is come home and fight with their girl.
That's the biggest thing.
Troy, we all think the same about this shit.
It's just that what it really comes down to is your status and your money It determines how hard you can put your foot down on your standards.
Does that make sense?
So if you're a brokie, you have these aspirations, but you can't put your foot down on it.
And you can't demand it either.
Because reality isn't gonna align with that.
However, the more money and status you have, the more you can tell girls to fuck off.
And the more you can tell girls to fuck off, the more attractive they are to you and the more they get in line.
It's actually kind of crazy how it goes.
Oh, you don't agree?
I think that both men and women and all the other genders etc should just like be more understanding towards each other so you're not so there's a truth in everything everyone said you know so women should be more understanding of some of some masking qualities and men should be understanding of our qualities and yeah I sound a hippie but you know yeah but the difference is here's the difference men have to understand women to attract them women don't have to understand us to attract us There's
basically a lot of unhealed, manipulative, narcissistic women, and they probably traumatize some men, etc.
So I'm not saying they're right.
I don't think you're going to win the office of president in Russia.
You don't have to be so politically correct.
Putin's there, man.
He ain't going nowhere.
I'm a Londoner 15 years, and I'm a citizen of the galaxy, whatever.
Can I answer your question?
So I think women as well, you want a high value man, so to speak.
What you should do is understand, life is not about you.
Life is about people in general.
And if you want something, it's sacrifice.
So by default, whether that person or something that you want, want.
If you understand that process, what they actually want, then guess what?
You can do that with whatever they want and then get it.
But if you don't do what they want, How can you ever achieve it?
So it's kind of like, you want something, but you don't want to actually change to make that happen.
And you say, oh, woe's me.
Like, why can't I find a man?
You're not changing to get the result.
And actually, there's a definition of insanity.
Doing the same thing all over again to get a result that doesn't work.
And the other thing I would say, the other big thing that girls don't do enough, you got to orbit around your guy.
Like, if you got a guy that's higher status, et cetera, you got to drop everything you're fucking doing for that guy.
Like, cause the thing is that other women want him.
So, if you're not willing to drop everything for him and make concessions, there's a girl that will.
And she's gonna take your spot.
And the problem is that too many girls think that they're special.
If you're with a top tier guy, you're not special no more.
At all.
He's the special one.
He's the prize.
You gotta treat him that way.
Like, again, I hate to use my chick as an example, but she should fucking do a seminar on this shit.
Cause she's actually talked to a couple girls that have the same situation cause they go, Girls be DMing her now.
Oh, how do you deal with a guy like this?
Asking her for advice.
Like, she just acquiesces to what I do.
Like, for example, we're playing fucking Overwatch, streaming that shit right now.
I was like, yo, I need you to be good at this game so you can stream with us because we need a fucking healer.
And she's been practicing, playing this shit, told her I need you to play this many hours.
Even though that's a mundane task or whatever, she does it enthusiastically.
Yeah, I think it was Psych Hacks who said this on a video recently.
He was talking about this and he was saying, so women have the leverage to get in the door.
So they use the sex, basically, sexuality.
They get in the door.
Then, what do you do then as a woman?
You're helpful to your man.
It's how can you help him?
Regardless of how crazy it is.
I use a video game example because it's mundane, but it goes to show...
Her persistence to make me happy.
Exactly, exactly.
So that, coupled with the take thing you were talking about, is she quiet?
Is she not a pain in the arse?
And also she inserts herself into your life and she's helpful.
Yeah.
That's when she becomes a keeper.
Yeah.
And this is where it comes in like, I tell her, oh, what do I do for this guy?
I don't know, he has everything.
That's where you have to have the critical thinking skills and be able to come in and be like, what I call like an indispensable component to his life.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you gotta come in and be a toolset that he can't...
Once you come into a guy's life and you're an indispensable tool, guess what?
You ain't going nowhere.
Yeah.
Because most girls are useless, if I'm gonna be honest.
That was gonna be my next question.
Like, what are ways that you can make yourself an indisposable tool?
Yeah.
I mean, I understand it's different for every guy, but just basic ways.
You gotta be on the guy.
And I use the video example not to like flex.
I use it to show how it's a ridiculous, kind of like on paper, like what the fuck, you want your girl to play video games to play with you?
That doesn't make, but we're like streaming, so we need another person.
Long story.
But I said that to show every guy is different and they're gonna need different things from you and you need to be able to rise up to the task.
So she's been like playing five hours every day.
I told her, yeah, I need you to play four to five hours.
Get good because you're trash and women suck at video games, right?
And she's in practice.
She's been getting a lot better and she's like, all right, I'll be ready when you get back.
So you gotta be able to do whatever's required for the man.
That means dropping everything you're doing.
Now of course, with that said, the guy's gotta take care of you.
I'm a big believer in women shouldn't work.
I'm a big believer in women should work electively and you gotta be the man to protect and provide.
If you wanna go, that's gonna be submissive to you.
That comes with the cost of you being that authority, right?
But this is where the girls gotta pick the right guy.
That's why I said for you, like you had a guy that was successful, had money, et cetera.
It's very tough to come by those guys that are actually nice too.
Most are gonna be assholes like me.
Maybe that's what you want.
I don't know, but...
No, I don't.
There you go.
Can I just add another point?
Because you're talking about how, like, you need to drop...
The girl basically needs to drop her whole life, her whole schedule.
Yeah.
And I have a story...
Higher status guy.
For a higher status guy, yeah.
Yeah, I had an experience recently that was literally like this.
I was speaking to someone who was very successful, like, private jet, all of that stuff, and...
When we were speaking, he was waiting for me to basically drop everything.
And I was explaining to him, like, I'm a journalist, I'm a presenter.
My schedule is crazy.
I'm always traveling.
I'm always at events.
Yeah, but fuck your job.
It makes pennies compared to him.
That's how he looks at it.
See, and you laugh because he probably told you that.
No.
You know what he told me?
Do you know what he told me?
What'd he say?
He was like, he got really angry because he was like, I've been trying to get a date with you.
I've been trying to see you and you just keep telling me you're busy.
So he did not like it.
So he was like, I've got girls flying in from Paris, New York, Miami, just to sit with me for 40 minutes and you don't even want to drop your schedule.
Hmm.
Do you really think women like men like that?
They do.
But they're the men that you're trying to describe to me.
Hence why they were flying to his table for 40 minutes.
He's lying.
Where are these women?
And why were they sitting with you for 40 minutes and not one hour, two hours?
Why are they not your wives?
Yeah, where are they?
Why are you speaking to me?
Yes.
Well, again...
He might have paid them, whatever it may be.
I don't know.
No, you've got all these women flying in from New York, Miami, Paris to sit with him for 40 minutes.
Alright, I'm going to be honest.
Your guys' jobs aren't important, man.
Am I lying?
They're not.
I read the book by Aaron Clary, A World Without Men.
It's like objectively most of our jobs society would be fine without.
They've done the data on this.
To be honest...
Somebody expecting me to drop my plans, messaging me last minute on the day, that's unacceptable.
I'm sorry.
It wouldn't be if you really liked him.
I'm sorry.
No, I have a lot of...
Here's the problem.
I already know what's going on.
I can read between you guys.
It's a lot of rich, old, ugly niggas hitting her up.
No, he was young, actually.
Very successful Arab guy.
Trust on baby niggas that aren't attractive.
To Pearl's point, if a girl likes a guy, she'll miss work.
Drive four hours, fly across country.
You don't like it that much.
Was he decent looking?
Was he decent looking?
Oh no, he was really good looking.
I wanted to get to know him, but as soon as he started talking to me like that, I was like, no.
Hold on, he turned you off then?
I don't care how much money you have, and I don't care if you have a private jet.
You have to respect my schedule.
And you don't message me last minute being like, hey, are you free today?
And expect me to drop and be like, yeah, sure, I'll drop everything.
I will.
Because at the end of the day, I'm interviewing you to see if you are someone that I want.
The real problem is you don't like him.
I've been in situations where a guy wants me to drop my schedule.
And I don't.
And I would rationalize it with myself thinking, oh, it's just because I'm super busy.
But the guy I just started dating, it was like...
I cleared my schedule and I'm crazy busy.
It's like if you like him, it doesn't matter.
If he earns that, he didn't get to that point.
This was the early stages, he's meant to be impressing me.
This is what they lie to us.
The men that spend all this time impressing us, we don't like them.
If you really like a guy, it's like immediate.
It's not...
You were going to say something?
I just think he's being respectful of someone's, like, time.
No, I get that.
But another way of looking at it, what Paul said, but maybe another way of looking at it is maybe you wrote him off too quickly.
Because if you genuinely did like him, but you're like, hey, he's not respecting my schedule.
But listen, I mean, he's a decent-looking guy.
He's rich.
He's successful.
Yeah.
He is!
If we were sitting here in four years' time and you still haven't found a guy, would you be thinking, oh fuck, maybe I should have actually given that dude a chance?
Do you know what I mean?
At the moment, you've got the luxury of perhaps being able to do that.
Yeah.
But how many of these dudes are going to come, not to you personally, but just to women in general, how many of these dudes are going to come along?
You know what I'm saying?
That's very true.
Oh my god, plenty.
I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure.
But the older you get...
Hopefully I'll be married by then.
But Tom, but he's right.
The older you get, are they going to still be around?
Yeah.
You know what's crazy?
I feel like I'm...
See, yo, look, look.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Bro, look.
That's the problem.
I don't want to be a fucking asshole here.
But you're objectively average looking.
You're going to keep it a thousand, okay?
You're objectively average looking.
I really don't care.
It's not about my looks.
It is about your looks, okay?
And you have access to these higher status guys, right?
And they're hitting you up, which was my point earlier, by the way, which I fantastically made.
And you think, right, that your value is on par, if not actually higher than the men's, which is why you're rejecting them and saying, I'm busy.
When in reality, they have way more...
I just have boundaries.
Okay, anyway.
They have way more pull and way more status and actually are more attractive than you.
However...
The fact that you've been getting hit on by all these guys, thanks to the internet or whatever it may be, I've always said a woman's behavior with men is directly tied to her mindset about men or abundance with men.
If a woman has a lot of options, she doesn't respect the men as much.
She doesn't respect the options as much.
The crazy thing is I would have respected him if he had just been like, okay, you let me know when you're free.
You said you had flaked on him a million times.
No, no, you said literally earlier you had flaked on him a bunch of times, then he got frustrated and responded with that.
Because I was busy.
Because I had things.
I'm shooting.
I'm doing stuff.
If you really like him, you're not busy.
And he's paying for the flight!
And I think sometimes we lie to ourselves.
But if you really like him, you're not busy.
You make time.
It comes back again.
No offense.
You're a very pompous female, from what I've seen.
Oh, what?
Pompous.
Okay.
Uppity, I think.
I do have very high standards.
Bougie!
And I can tell from the way you speak, your tonality, etc., which is fine.
But understand that if you're going to behave that way and you want a certain caliber of guy, That's gonna come with certain things, and you need to humble yourself and understand that you're not as special as you think you are.
But, you know, you think that, oh, I have a bunch of rich guys hitting me up, so I'm gonna behave however I want, blah, blah, blah.
You know what ends up happening when you do that?
They just fuck you and never take you seriously.
Myron, can I tell you something that I've kind of observed about men quite a lot?
Oh, man.
Men seem to find you more attractive and pursue you more the worse you treat them anyway.
Why is that?
You know what they do?
You know what they do?
Well, number one, those are men you don't respect.
And then when they do pursue you like that and you treat them like shit, you know what they do a lot of the times?
They sell you a dream, have sex with you and leave you.
Oh, good thing I don't entertain it, but I'm just saying, treat them in, keep them keen.
And I want to know why, because obviously you say all of these things, but my reality as a woman is so different because you guys are talking from, you're not just being men and amongst your bros, As a woman, what you experience from a man is very different.
We see a totally different side to you guys that you're not even honest with each other about.
So I'm not going to lie to you.
You're telling me that, oh, my value has gone down because I'm old, because I'm this, because I'm that.
But my reality is I get much more men on me to even want to wifey me than I ever did in my life.
They're losers though.
No, they're actually not losers.
Then why don't you want them?
Because listen, I'll tell you why.
You dig yourself a hole every time.
I'll tell you why.
Do you know why I don't want them?
Because I'm taking my time to know because I went through a very traumatic experience, which means I have to be more diligent.
It doesn't matter.
I have to be more diligent with the people that I end up going for because I'm very aware of the traps that life can set for me.
So I'm going to be careful.
But that doesn't mean that I don't get, if I want the option to actually go for the way I can.
AKA, you don't like them.
Period!
No, I don't want them just yet.
Hold on, hold on.
Real quick, let me ask you this.
- If I whacked off to Pornhub every day and busted a nut watching porn every day, and I came in here and said, "Yo, I got a bunch of options." Would you look at me like I'm crazy? - Well, I would ask you, what do you mean by options?
I got a bunch of options with girls on there that I could whack off to, man.
I got options.
Well, do the girls come to you?
Do you spend time with them?
Do they want to actually actively spend time with you?
No, no.
I got options.
I'm busting a nut, man.
I'm with different types of girls.
Variety, baby.
Well, okay.
But not physically.
The answer is, no, I'm a fucking idiot.
Well, I don't know your life.
No, no, no.
Let's be honest here.
I'm a fucking retard if I say that because it takes no skill for me to whack off and bust a nut to different girls.
It takes no skill for you to have men on you.
Well, it kind of does.
The way that they're hunting me, it kind of does, actually.
Bruh, you just exist.
No, I don't just exist.
I built myself to be like this.
And that's why men are even attracted to me.
From even the way that I dress.
From how I even do my hair.
From how I do my makeup.
How I dress.
If I want to really attract men, I know I change the way I dress.
I know how to change everything.
All the niggas in the chat, all the niggas in the chat, these guys right here, they're shaking their head.
We don't care about that!
You kind of do, because the way that I dress is what's going to show off certain things.
For example, today, if I dress like this to go out, I know exactly the attention I'm going to get.
They want to smash only!
That's okay if they want to smash.
Depending on how I dress, I know the ones I want to smash.
It does not refute the point.
Look, look, once again, you're doing a terrible job of debating your point.
What you're arguing is my level of attention increases and decreases based on how much time I spend on my appearance.
However, you cannot refute the flack.
That's not what I said.
Exactly.
That's quite literally what you just said.
My point is that I get more attention now than I ever did before.
My makeup putting myself together directly influences my level of attention.
No, it can be impacted.
However, it does not reflect, it does not reflect what I said when I said, you simply still have to exist to get the attention.
You can amp it up, of course, but if you decided to not amp it up, they're still coming.
Okay, then let me add another layer to this.
No, you lost!
No, I didn't lose.
And I'll explain to you why.
Because the way that men speak to me, obviously you're only speaking to me like this because you don't know me on your podcast.
How many rings?
Because you make no sense.
How many rings?
It makes zero sense.
It doesn't make sense.
I'll make sense.
I'll make sense of it.
For example, you're the only person that speaks to me like this.
You think talking more helps it.
It doesn't.
No, it's not about it.
It just continues to make you look crazy.
Men, respect me outside of this space because I'm dealing with you and obviously, like I said, you're a different type of rich asshole that I've not met before, but They wanna fuck you.
Listen, it's up to you what you want to say, bro.
I know the kind of person that I am.
Don't be judging me just because I've got nyash and I dress like this and because I'm a woman.
I have substance as a person.
And that's really important.
I like you as a person.
I don't care about whether you like me or not.
What's your argument right now?
It also comes to say, my substance as a woman to be respected and to be spoken to how men speak to me that I don't see them speaking to other women is because I work for myself to be who I am.
And it takes a lot of effort because I'm not the same person as a Becky that goes to the club and gets moved to and a guy has the balls to go up to her and say, I want to fuck you.
God forbid a man would ever say that to me in real life.
Do you remember the original argument that we started this off on?
No, what was it?
And fuck incredible.
No, because I'm trying to get you to tell me.
You just realized you went on an entire tirade and you don't know what the fuck you're arguing for.
No, I do know, but I don't know what you're trying to get to.
That is what I'm trying to say.
When I say, like, do you guys see this shit?
Like, yo, you went on an entire tirade and you don't even know what you're arguing for.
Can I just?
I do know what I'm arguing for.
Okay.
Then what is it?
What were you arguing?
I'm simply telling you that I look for things more than just money.
No, that was not what the argument was.
What was the argument?
I'm simply telling you that there's too many different things and too many different variables for me as a woman, individual that will actually impact how people go towards me.
For example, I've had to work hard on myself.
Listen, I've had to work.
That wasn't it.
Listen, it wasn't because you're telling me that I just need to exist.
That wasn't it.
I try to explain to you that the way that I exist has taken a lot of work for me to be who I am and to look like this, to think like, to be able to interact with men.
Simple.
I don't just exist.
Can I, can I say something?
If you walk into a nightclub, men are going to approach you simply off of you being there.
Okay?
They're not gonna care about your education.
They're not gonna care about, you know, you studying U.S. foreign policy.
They're not gonna care about your thoughts and your substance and all this other crap that you talk about.
They're simply gonna approach you and give you the opportunity to talk to you, and that's by you existing.
No, based on what I look like.
Existing.
What I look like.
Existing.
What I look like.
If I dress like a butch lesbian, no guy's gonna move to me.
Trust me.
They still will.
No, they won't.
It doesn't matter how many copes that we give.
Pearl!
Go on, go on.
I'll ask you a question after.
I'd rather you didn't.
It doesn't matter how many copes and how many tirades we go on because reality will slap us in the face sooner or later.
And they're the ones telling us the truth.
Everyone demonizes them.
Speaking of slaps, we got some chats to read because holy...
Alright, shit.
We left that for a while.
This has been quite a show.
Alright, we have here first, Jerome says, that London accent is cute for about five minutes.
The country's trash, y'all don't even have the Second Amendment, and y'all have been salty since 76.
Good God.
W-USA. Okay.
This guy says, technically repair says, FNF, I'm new to the Castle Club.
I've saved over 85k in profits over the last six months, and I want to start buying rentals.
I'll drop in 25%.
Where's the best place to find lenders when I have a 680 credit score on a 150k in that house truck CCs?
Get your credit score up, man.
Over 700, bro.
680, nah.
Fuck no.
Jalil says, FNF, would y'all be willing to debate the Daily Wire with Pearl, given the recent comments towards Red Pill from them?
Sure, but they're scared.
Yeah, they won't.
They don't want to do it.
They're scared, I think.
Darius says...
Yeah, no, I'm trying to...
Look, I have pitched Tim Kast and Pierce Morgan.
Both said they would host me and Myron against two Daily Wire people.
I'm just waiting for the Daily Wire to accept.
Put your money where your mouth is, guys.
All right.
Darius says, Pearl, when will you do a show with the Satan Center?
Business mogul Marquette Burton.
150k subs on YouTube.
He was hilarious on whatever.
That was so funny.
Yeah, I totally would do a show with him.
He's good.
Sunny says, I'm English and I speak three languages.
Whores only understand one language.
Okay.
We have here, let's see.
Boston Sea Party says, they just add letters to make their words sound fancy.
Tell them if they can't beat us in a war.
They can talk as much shit as they want.
WFNF. Oh, that was from the spelling of words, right?
Yeah, earlier, yeah.
Okay.
Freshers balls on roids.
Yo, Myron, just chimed in, but I have been listening religiously to you for like the last two months.
I'm tired, bro.
Super chats are harder than they think.
Yeah, I'm tired, bro.
Where were we at?
Which one?
Jerome, okay.
No, no, we read that one.
Okay.
FNF, I'm new to the cat.
No.
Read that.
Nigga, where'd you put me?
Goddammit, Fresh?
Uh, sorry.
Okay, sorry, audience.
Okay, Boston Tea Party.
Nope, read that one too.
Fresh?
Nope, read that one.
Rob, hey, my first live, I watched you all from the beginning.
Glad everything got squared away between Pearl and FNF. Shout out to y'all.
I went from homeless making 25 an hour and 440 credit score 680 on the way up.
Good stuff, bro.
Keep up the good work, everyone.
Yeah, absolutely, bro.
That's, yeah.
440 credit score is terrible, but you're getting up.
Get up to 700 plus, you'll be fine.
Jake Kertura goes, also, you guys helped me in my relationship and helped me know my worth.
My girl's frickin' alpha mode and drives to keep me in check.
I now say, nah, bro, you're wrong.
Absolutely, you gotta be able to type, put her in her place, man.
Bro, if you don't, like, she just tolerate you for...
Man, you guys just saw here.
No offense, Ms.
Morocco, but goddamn.
You proved a lot of points here.
Marin, I'm proud of your maturity.
I remember Pearl's piece and don't believe she's genuine RP. However, I respect the fact that she invested money in defending you at your lowest.
What's RP? Don't worry.
Oh.
Let's see here.
We got...
Abraham goes, I'm considering purchasing a house in New Brant, Connecticut.
Which cities in Connecticut do you believe are good or bad for buying houses?
Additionally, I'm debating whether to buy a house with existing tenants or one for myself to live in and then to passive income.
Bro, watch our episode on real estate where I cover all this, but I'll give you a little thing since it's a special episode.
Look in West Haven and New Haven.
I shouldn't be telling y'all that, but look in those towns.
Good deals there.
And if you take a house from me, I'll get really mad.
This fat bitch...
What?
Oh, this fat bitch.
I see what he did there.
Love you, FNFM.
I'm glad you packed more shoes than just sandals and socks.
Okay, looking good, bro.
Lady in pink, your balls are bulging through your tights.
Let a man be a man.
You'll be happy.
Well, the fact that you think I got bigger balls than you is not my fault.
I was born this way.
Guillermo goes, Pearl, please stand up and turn around and throw a jab at the chick behind you so she can stop cutting people off.
I think Pearl will fuck you up.
You think so?
Okay.
She's six foot plus.
You think you're bad, yeah?
We should do a boxing match.
Do you know how strong I am?
Do you know how strong I am?
I deadlifted like 275 today for six.
I hit 850 on a punching machine.
Sorry, go ahead.
Did you literally just say, what?
You know the punching machine?
You mean at the arcade?
No, the hard hitters.
So I'm just using anything.
She literally just used that as an example to demonstrate fighting competency.
Exactly, she's deadlifting to say that she can beat me up.
I can use anything, correct?
There we go, bro.
No, my point is...
Yo, you're the definition of arguing in bad grades, man.
I'll give you this.
It's four in the morning, so we'll give it to you.
yeah good uh bk green eyes goes this fatty in the pink needs to shut the up her mom failed and she is the most annoying heifer on the planet castle this cow god damn cow moo all right uh roller provides academic literature on hypergamy and pearl myron and fresh provide the laboratory the rationale is all true thank you guys i see the matrix hey bro you guys see it in 4k every day uh chop top shake goes gents ladies pro good to finally see you collab with fnf apologies except that i gotta say Send the asteroid or allow an EMP. I'mma dress into a trance to knock that gorilla's
mouth?
What are you talking about?
He's gonna become a trance to fight her.
Yeah, to fight her?
Okay.
Remember, just because you're good for your hole doesn't mean they're good for your soul.
Wisdom.
Words of wisdom there.
Just because they're good for your whole goddamn.
Okay, good one.
Then he goes again, Troy, you didn't say much today.
I like it.
Keep it up.
This nigga.
That's ridiculous.
See, they talk shit about everybody, bro.
And then, uh, the She-Pam, get off your phone.
Oh, sorry, my bad.
I was very clear about that at the beginning of the show.
Sorry.
God fucking damn it.
I don't feel embarrassed either.
Well...
I'm a troublemaker for a reason, man.
I could tell.
All the dudes you dated were pussies, man.
They don't tell you nothing.
You have a problem with authority.
You get away with murder.
Yeah, you could tell.
I can get away with a lawyer, yeah.
The sheet man goes, hey guys, I'm in the process of building up my skill set for the next six months.
Should I go out at least once a week or fully focus on building my skill and shun social interactions?
You should go out a bit, I think.
Go out, bro.
Because the fact that you're not going out at all, when you get successful in that arena, you're going to be like a dud.
That's why you said before, we need to do it all, don't we?
That's the fucking problem.
Yeah, you do.
Because if you just focus on the money, you'll end up...
Sorry, I hate to use your example.
But you'll end up where she's just tolerating you for an engagement.
And then you put that shit into a new coin or something, and she's like, nigga, I'm gone.
See, if I was him, I would not tell her anything, bro.
I would just do what I have to do.
Like normal.
Yeah.
Alright, so what we'll do is we'll turn it to the ladies.
Questions, comments?
Questions, last points, disagreements, whatever it may be.
Last comments.
Yeah, if you guys got a question for us or whatever, we'll turn it to...
Who wants to go first?
We'll start here.
Yeah, you didn't say much.
No, no, no.
Come back to me.
Okay.
Okay, you know what?
How was the show for you?
How was the show?
It was...
I like that.
It was alright.
I couldn't relate to a lot of stuff, but it was interesting.
What couldn't you relate to specifically?
Just like different views about certain things because I think maybe because of my age group.
Because my age is older, so my beliefs are a little bit different.
Okay, who did you agree with more during the course of this show?
The men or the women?
Keep it a bean.
I want to say a little bit more that the men had some good points.
The men had good points going across.
And the whole thing about the whole contraceptive stuff, I think it's more like when it comes to the contraception, I don't think it's equally the man's.
I think it's more the woman.
Because at the end of the day, the woman is with child, is with child for, you know, 18 years or whatever till the child grows and the man will just go, you know, the man doesn't have to be a part.
It doesn't have to be this.
You have to think for yourself, really.
Oh, so she agrees with us.
Alright.
Based grandma.
Interesting, okay.
Goddamn, nigga.
What about you?
I have a comment.
I think it would be very beneficial.
Did you have a question for Fresh earlier?
Or you asked another one?
I thought she had another one.
Okay, never mind.
I think it would be a good idea for men to drop the actual gym and go to...
Boxing gym or learn some martial arts because they'll give you not only exercise but also give you confidence in yourself.
So you walk around and you won't even have to talk.
It's not bad advice.
Guys should do combat sport.
They definitely need to.
It makes them less bitchy, you know?
It makes you less scary.
It makes you a real protector and capable and competent.
And a woman will respect you because she'll know.
It's not bad advice because guys should do combat sports.
Yeah, they should, but women need to work on being worth being protected.
It's not even for a woman, you know?
I think it's even for themselves.
Does every girl deserve protection?
Of course.
Fuck out of here, no!
We're not disagreeing with you.
Not every girl deserves protection.
No, I don't think so.
I agree with you on that one.
But women must work on being better quality.
That's right.
Yes.
Right.
Like, the protection, like, it's earned.
It's not just given, like...
Of course.
Like, why am I gonna lie my life on the line for some fucking chick that isn't even sucking my dick and following my lead?
Like, hell no, that's crazy.
That's stupid.
Why would I do that?
No, do it for yourself.
Because as a man amongst men...
You also build your status through having physical competence.
But what comes first, would you think?
Sucking the dick or the protection?
Yeah, I mean, she's gotta suck the dick first.
Why?
Why would I protect the girl that I'm not getting sexual access to?
Why would I suck the dick of someone who is not protecting me?
You gotta suck the dick to get the protection first.
That makes sense, actually.
It's true, isn't it?
Why are you gonna be sucking the dick of a man dying and protecting you?
Because if you want to tell women to be better women, you shouldn't say, don't do those things unless a man is doing the right things.
That 50% of the time that you fuck those guys that we were talking about earlier, do them niggas protect you?
Oh, I'll wait.
Which guys?
Oh, she forgot already.
Remember you said, oh, if he's hot enough, I will do it.
Remember that?
It's a mutual- Are those guys protecting you?
Huff and huff.
Yeah, are those guys protecting you?
For the evening, yes.
He ain't protecting you.
I was having as much fun.
So I'm not even getting my dick sucked and I gotta protect you?
But he got his dick sucked and he didn't protect you?
Maybe he wasn't in a position where he had to.
Not every time that you need to protect somebody.
Sometimes I protect the guy.
Do you not see the lack of logic here?
What do you mean?
I guess there should be a desire from a man to protect a woman in the first place, but we all protect each other in general, by the way.
Women can't protect anything.
Right, so if I can protect, then you have to protect me, then if I can't protect...
But that's earned, though.
But that's earned, though.
What is earned?
Protection from a man.
Yeah, it should just be a natural thing, in my opinion.
Okay, so you know what, by that argument, then it should just be a natural thing that we just get our dick sucked.
Well, if both was equal, then yes.
Yeah, if you showed that investment, then you'll get your investment.
No, there's plenty of dudes that protect chicks and don't get their dicks hooked all the time.
Dudes be caping for girls and they don't even like them.
That's because people don't really know their roles anymore.
And also there comes the fact that there's generosity too.
Come on.
That's him taking the role to the next level.
Myron, would you not stop if a man...
You guys make zero sense.
Can I ask you a question, Myron?
Would you not stop and protect a woman if she was being absolutely harassed by someone else?
Truly.
You wouldn't actually step in because that's not the woman that's sucking your dick.
I don't know.
I think that there's a lot of men that have almost like an innate kind of urge to protect a woman because that's meant to be a natural role as a man anyway.
Masculine men don't need to protect only the woman they sleep with.
They protect the villages of women sometimes.
Here's the thing.
I would do it, but it's not intelligent.
Stupid.
Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
I would personally do it because of who I am, and I used to work in law enforcement, so I'm not a good person to ask on this.
But, however, it is stupid for men to sit there and protect women that they don't know.
It's dumb.
Hey, you guys wanted equality, right?
Protect yourself.
You're entitled to say that it's stupid, but I'm just saying there's a lot of people, there's men that are generous with that kind of attitude.
In fact, there's men that even go into pimping because they were trying to protect the woman to begin with.
I know quite a few of those, you know?
Okay, let's let her talk.
I don't know what you're saying right now.
What about you?
I don't know what you're saying right now.
What about you?
Pimps meant to protect women.
We're going to move to the next person.
Okay, I want you to watch back this show and see how crazy you sound.
I'm just saying, is it a lie?
My thing.
Okay, go on.
Wow.
Interesting.
Did you just take a Xanny before the show?
No.
That's the most of the charisma you've shown the entire show now.
How do you know Myron?
I don't, as in I've watched your content.
Okay, cool.
We did introduce ourselves before too.
She can't say, Myron, Myron, Myron, Myron.
As in because he's like, did you take something before the show?
No.
So you're just always like this?
I'm just chill, but I am really tired.
I'm not gonna lie.
It's like 4am, guys.
Alright, man.
I don't believe that.
I think this is just how you are in time, man.
What about you, Ms.
Russia?
Who, me?
How was the show for you?
Comments, questions?
Very stressful.
You didn't say nothing.
Because everyone was shouting, I got really agitated and, you know, I couldn't, like, I froze a little bit.
And also a few times I tried to speak and people were just speaking on top of me.
You didn't go to war?
What do you mean?
You haven't been in a war before?
No.
Oh, never mind.
Russia, Ukraine, okay, never mind.
I'm a Londoner for 15 years.
I've been saying this the whole time.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
I don't have much connection anymore with, you know.
Understood.
Well, if you didn't get much time to speak, is there any final point you want to make then?
Yeah, this is your chance right now, and you're just like...
Well, I think that...
That's good, she said I think.
Instead of I feel like.
This is why she hasn't spoken.
See, like I can't, you know, because all you want to do is just intimidate everyone.
That's how I think or feel or whichever way it is, because anything like I or someone else says, like just twist everything around and, you know.
How do I twist that around?
I was giving you a compliment.
Because I can't think otherwise or what do you mean?
Well, I don't know if you've noticed but almost every girl before they made a point said I feel before they made their point.
Yeah, but feeling is not lesser than thinking.
There's an emotional intelligence which you should probably read about as well.
What is emotional intelligence?
Define it for me.
I'm not a dictionary, you have to go.
So wait, you just told me to have emotional touch, but you don't know what it means?
Well, it's a feeling as well.
Emotionally intelligence is the ability to understand feelings and emotions.
I'm not a dictionary, I'm sorry, I'm not like a book smart.
So you just used a term that you don't know the definition of?
Well, I understand it more visually.
You have a massive degree.
You guys, do you know what?
That's actually really mean.
I'm very offensive.
I'm super neurodiverse.
Thank you very much.
And I'm not going to be bullied either.
We're not bullying you.
You said you need to have more emotional intelligence.
And I said, okay, what is emotional intelligence?
You couldn't define it.
Yeah, because you don't have to define it like that.
Not everybody can express themselves or explain things.
That's why she went quiet when you guys attacked her.
You said earlier, words are important, right?
You should know what the meanings are.
You said that!
You said that!
Those are my standards.
That's what I stand for.
That's why when you ask emotional intelligence, I had a definition.
Did I know?
Why can't you just laugh at yourself?
I have a definition.
Sometimes you do dumb shit.
- Damn shit, it's okay.
- Yeah.
- Like, just okay.
- She didn't do anything though.
Like you said, it's-- - Everyone, everyone. - 4:00 AM.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Oh, it's an excuse of 4:00 AM now.
- Okay, you don't say nothing.
- No, no, no, hold on.
This is just hilarious.
- This means we've been up for almost 24 hours to accommodate you actually.
So it's not very nice that you say that.
That's another excuse.
We also work.
Listen, I get up in 20 minutes.
I've been up from 5 a.m.
until now, so it's not very nice to say that to her.
No, that's okay.
You told me, but it doesn't matter if you told me.
My time is also pressured, you know?
Sorry, you asked.
No, I just find this very funny.
Because she was the one answering the question, but you just did most of the talking, which is ridiculous.
I don't like people picking on people and I watch it and I don't think it's okay.
I didn't like what you said to her either.
See, she has to defend me like you have to step into your masculinity.
I'm sorry, but I didn't like that.
I understand why.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I would never allow anyone to speak to somebody like that.
When a man doesn't protect you, another woman has to protect you.
Do you know what she said?
No.
Do you even know what she said?
About what?
She said a lot of things.
Okay.
What did she say that you have an issue with?
I didn't have an issue with her.
No, no.
I had an issue with what you said to her.
Which was what?
You're basically mocking her for the fact that she first said, you said that she said, I think, and then you even went on to then talk about her accent.
And in fact, the three of you have been talking about her accent or picking on her along the show.
That's discrimination, by the way.
So when it gets to this point, and she even explained that she felt to go on to speak.
You weren't mocking my accent.
She felt overwhelmed to speak because you guys keep cutting off the moment that she speaks.
And when you do, you do things like stereotypical that you'll jump on the fact that she's Russian or whatever.
And this time she's even Latvia.
So it's actually not nice.
You're being unwelcoming on your show when somebody came to even give you views because you're shouting ahead saying all the things that she's still there.
Since you didn't address it at all.
She said, And I said, oh great, you think, instead of I feel, because a lot of you have said, I feel, which was a compliment.
Then, right?
She goes, oh, you need to learn emotional intelligence.
And I'm like, okay, define emotional intelligence.
That's not what she said.
She said before that, she said, you need to learn some emotional intelligence.
She said, what's wrong with me thinking?
She said, well, because other people said feel.
She said, it's okay to feel.
Feel is no lesser than thinking.
She said you need to get some emotional intelligence and I said define emotional intelligence.
I think it's a misunderstanding.
And she couldn't define emotional intelligence and we burst out into laughter because how are you going to tell someone?
It's not that she doesn't know it.
She's feeling overwhelmed.
Not everybody is as public speaker.
I can speak constantly.
She can't.
You talk too much.
Of course I do.
Shut the fuck up for two seconds.
You shut the fuck up.
Yeah, who the fuck are you talking to?
Who are you talking to?
Bitch, get the fuck off my shit, man.
Bitch, get the fuck off my shit.
Shut up.
You're a fucking loser.
Get the fuck up out of here, bro.
Get the fuck up out of here.
You're very rude.
You shut the fuck up.
Get the fuck up out of here, bro.
Get the fuck up out of here, bro.
You look like a fucking Teletub you talking shit over here, man.
You look like a fucking knob.
What the fuck about here, bro?
You look like an idiot.
That's why you swear so much at women that gave their time to be here with you.
I sweat the fat off.
Something you need to do.
You're a fucking loser.
I sweat the fat off.
Something you need to do.
I don't give a shit, man.
Yeah, well.
I can swear as much as you can.
Okay.
That doesn't make you a lady, though.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't make you a man, either.
A man doesn't act like this.
Real men don't act like this.
Real men know how to respect women which you don't know.
That's why you swear from the moment you even broke me.
Respect is earned.
And you have not earned it.
Why are you still talking?
Just leave.
Just leave.
Get the fuck up out of here.
Just leave.
Fresh, you did earn my respect.
You're cool.
This guy's a freak.
Okay.
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Listen, we did a show together.
Yo.
Respectfully.
It's crazy, though.
I don't even care.
I said what I said.
You're built like a fridge and you're talking crazy shit.
I don't give a shit.
A fridge don't have curves like this, nigga.
What curves?
It's disgusting.
Bro, you're weighing almost 200 pounds.
I'm weighing almost 200 pounds.
I don't think I can accept this.
You can get the f**k about here too.
Go back to your guy.
Go back to him.
You guys get the f**k about here.
This is a fresh affair.
We don't give a f**k, man.
Get the f**k about here.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
You can leave too.
You guys can't deal with f**king the truth, man.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
Yo, you know what's funny about...
No, I'm telling you, shut the fuck up.
Yo, you know what's funny about all three girls, bro?
Bro, she ain't gonna do nothing, man.
She ain't got no hands, bro.
That's why I don't give a fuck.
When we can't fight, who gives a shit what the fuck they gotta say?
You know what's funny about all three girls?
Just leave, bro.
Why y'all still like...
Yo, they got no ass.
Well, one's fat.
The other one got no ass.
Can we just end this bad?
God damn, bro.
Okay, who's next?
No, this is fucking hilarious.
It is funny, but god damn.
You guys friend Castle everywhere.
Yo, yo, yo.
Like, yo.
It's crazy to me.
You should have some emotional intelligence.
Define emotional intelligence.
You don't even know.
I have EI. What is EI? What is that?
I don't know.
Like, what the fuck?
These chicks got mass degrees too.
That's the crazy part.
For all your niggas watching the show.
Yo, bring smarter girls out there educated.
This is what you get with educated girls.
Two mass degrees.
Master retards is what they are.
Master fucking retards, bruh.
I got a headache, man.
Guys, guys, shut up.
Kane, get them out of here.
You guys have to shut up.
God damn, they're still here.
What about you?
Hey, if you sweat as much as me, you'd be thinner.
Move out of the door.
Get them out.
You guys, you have to be quiet.
Thank you.
Sweating indicates good health, actually.
If she sweat more, she wouldn't be so fat.
Oh god.
What?
What about you?
Lost on the show, I hate the lovely comments.
Oh my god.
You're in shock right now?
I'm just chilling.
Yo, this is comedy.
See you.
Okay, I know, I know.
See you.
Okay.
Troy, you good?
I'm good.
I'm good, man.
He's like, oh shit!
I'm gonna say 90 kilos.
I don't know, nigga.
I'm gonna say 90 kilos.
I don't know, man.
90 kilos, man.
Listen, I wish her the best.
She's a buck 80 at least.
At least.
What are your thoughts on the show?
Go ahead.
Thanks for the show.
Thank you for having me on.
I've appreciated it a lot.
A new experience.
I've been on other shows, but none quite like this.
Took some valuable points from the lads.
Also...
A lot of information that I didn't actually know.
I think there's a lot that women can draw from this.
But I do think that there's things that both men and women can do to help make courtship and relationships easier.
We can help ourselves, we can help each other.
But yeah, thank you.
W, Black Queen.
W. I think what the lady here was saying, she was kind of saying like, oh, we should understand each other more.
We should learn.
And that's absolutely right.
But the problem is, you've got to live in reality, haven't you?
Because it's like, I could say, well, women should understand me as a guy, they should understand my needs, I should understand women better, and so on and so forth.
And yeah, absolutely, in a utopian world, for sure.
But unfortunately, we don't live in that world, you know, so we have to sort of look at the reality as it is.
Yeah, no, I appreciate the guys for telling us the truth.
Sometimes, I do believe that women can be emotional creatures.
You just saw it.
We do see things through rose-tinted glasses sometimes.
There are things on our side that we feel like we could teach men.
You know what's hilarious?
Like, she said, words matter, you need to know the definition.
Yeah, she's the one that said it.
Then this girl goes ahead and doesn't know the definition, and then she goes ahead and defends a point that she literally disagreed with earlier.
I think she didn't quite understand that you were trying to compliment her, and then it just...
No, no, but it got even funnier, because he called her out like, yo, did you say words matter earlier?
She did!
And then she goes, and you stand on that, and she's like, yeah, I did, but I didn't like the X, Y, Z. So you're sitting here arguing a point that you don't even agree with.
The girl don't even know what emotional intelligence is.
I remember, no composure.
No composure.
Yeah, man, she said she had it.
I don't see it.
Yo!
Anyhow.
Yo, this was fucking funny.
Guys, this was a great show.
Listen, Pearl and Troy, where can they find you guys?
Get us out of here!
Yo, this is comedy.
You can follow my YouTube channel, which is called The Data Game with Troy Francis.
So look that up on YouTube.
Follow me on there.
And on social media, like Twitter, Instagram, at RealTroyFrancis.
The only other thing I wanted to say was, I thought there's a really interesting Red Pill moments in this.
And actually, what's the lady?
Sarkana.
Yeah, Sakina.
She was talking about the guy that she was dating and the reason she split up with him.
And I thought that was actually really interesting because, like, you know, he's a rich dude.
So many, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And on paper, he was kind of...
For all the rich simps out there?
Yeah.
That's what awaits you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was...
I thought that was, like, really, really interesting.
Yo, I don't want to be an asshole, but, I mean, I told her to her face or whatever.
I'll say it again.
Bro, she's mid.
And look at how fucking cocky she was.
Bro, she got no ass.
Super cocky.
Holy.
Fucking mid.
Yo, we're doomed.
If girls like, mid-girls like that, yup, I think if a mid-girl acts like that, you're fucking doomed for the rest of y'all, man.
She's curving niggas?
She's curving niggas?
Goddamn, bro.
She's talking about the billionaire dude or the guy with the private jets, and then she's, you know, swerving him because he's asking her to give up the time and stuff like that.
Completely average.
And this is why guys, like you said, like guys need to have everything.
Or at least we need to be working on everything.
The fat chick tried to argue with me.
I was like, yo, chicks, we literally have had girls on our show that are average as hell that have went out with Future.
We know.
And he's smashing everything.
And it's like, average-ass chick.
Look at this girl.
Dude had Jets and all this other shit.
Hand her up.
Oh, I'm gonna cover them because I want to.
Like, bro, I'm telling you guys, average women have options like that.
That's why they don't respect most men.
That's why they behave the way they do.
That's why they're entitled to like, oh, I got options.
It's like, I mean, it's not viable options, but That's what, like, for the guys, like, yo, this is a world, we're in fucking London, we're across the country, across the pond, and it's the same prevailing issues that I've talked about forever.
I would have dropped everything if Future invited me out.
See?
I don't have a life!
Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is that, like, because I tell guys all the time, you've got to get your money on your point, become the best version of yourself, because Average chicks have access to exceptional men.
And the thing is, is that they think that they're better than you now.
This chick thought she was better than a multi-millionaire and she put her time above his.
This bitch had the audacity to say, well, my time is valuable.
Bitch, you're on a podcast with million plus subscribers.
This is a fucking...
You're lucky to get this kind of exposure, but she put herself on the same level as us.
That's crazy the entitlement women have nowadays.
It's just such a lack of humility in our generation.
It baffles me when you call women average how insulted they are.
Because it's like average, most people are average.
Most people are average.
I don't even think that's an insult.
By definition, that is a majority of people.
They probably just feel so embarrassed, like they can't take it.
You know what I've noticed though?
Dudes are way, way more okay with, if I say, bro, you're an average dude.
Yeah, I'm an average dude.
Men are totally okay with being called average, but like women have issues.
Some people aren't as thick-skinned.
I don't know.
I had nine siblings.
We just bullied each other.
Some of you have never been bullied in a show.
Bullying is good, man.
I think it's needed more, and I think, not to be an asshole, I think we need to be more honest with women, and women need to be bullied even more.
This is why girls need brothers.
Your brother bullies you, but from a point of love, and he tells you he was never going to get with you, you're fucking delusional, you're stupid, that was dumb, and girls need that shit.
They need that...
Constant reinforcement.
Constant negative reinforcement for bad behaviors.
Like, bro, this chick literally said, oh yeah, I left him because my 17-year-old brother told me.
What?
You don't listen to kids.
I knew she was, because she's been coming on for a while now, and I just knew he was, I don't know why, you could tell too, King, right?
Yeah, yeah.
We could just tell it.
Yo, you're staffing by the seat.
The thing is just like, man.
No, it's funny.
It's hilarious.
Yeah, because King's produced and so is Blessing.
So they've just seen so many people come in and out.
And London's so unique because we literally get people from all over the world.
So I've had people from Africa.
I've had people from Eastern Europe, Asia.
I can't even think of a part of the world we really haven't had people from.
I'm critical of mass immigration in other podcasts.
But in this case, it works out because I don't want to hear no more complaining from you motherfuckers.
People, yo, you just bring on Miami bimbos, bro!
Bring girls on from other places!
Okay, nigga, we're in another continent on the other side of the world, and girls are saying the same dumb shit.
I mean, we were in Colombia.
They said the same shit, too.
Yeah.
But, Sakina, you felt that she just didn't respect the guy.
She just lost respect for the dude.
Is that kind of what it came down to?
She didn't like him.
Yeah, you saw it coming from a while ago?
Oh, yeah, yeah, because I could just...
i don't know like what i notice when girls describe the guy they're with if they start with like what he does and like his resources i've noticed that's like why they're with him but if they start with something else it tends to be or like if it's like a sigh like oh yeah it's like she if she's not beaming when asked about you Yeah, she missed a big opportunity there.
And I also think that girls that flex their guy as a status symbol tend to not really like them that much.
They more like the status of being in a relationship.
Because if you have a guy you really like, why would you want to flex him?
Then other bitches are going to try to sleep with him.
Don't advertise him.
Well, they do though.
What I've noticed is that's kind of how girls compete.
Intersexual competition.
I'll give you an example.
If a chick is super successful and graduated from Harvard and shit, she has a good paying job, but another chick is married to a dude that did all that, the girl that's married to that dude, she might have zero accomplishments, but she's going to be more respected Like, by other women for having that guy as her husband versus the girl that got her on her own, if that makes sense.
Like, even though women will never admit that, but like, oh, you have a family?
Oh, that's your husband?
Oh, shit, that's your boyfriend?
Oh, wow.
And then you're single and you have all the same accolades, but it's like, women don't respect that shit.
I saw a woman on the subway the other day and she had like a massive engagement ring on, like real big spark, like diamond.
And it just occurred to me, it's an obvious point, but it just occurred to me, it's like this is so much about display, isn't it?
And it's so much about display to other women.
It's like, look at this one, you know, I've got him, you know?
Yeah, I tattooed mine on and it's still there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, it's just like, I think, I mean, of course men do it too, right?
You got the whole term, like trophy wife or whatever, but like, but like men is like, oh, let me show off her beauty.
Like women are like, let me show off this man's status and success.
Yeah.
And it's harder to get.
So it's like, you can get a hot girl.
Like there's plenty of hot girls, but like, are there many attractive high status guys that also can like keep you in your place?
No, you know what I mean?
So, okay.
Pearl, what about you?
Damn nigga, why you always trying to...
Come on, man.
Nigga, it's 4 in the morning.
They gotta go home.
5 in the morning.
Dude, they been chilling, man.
Yeah, I can't lie.
Hold on, hold on.
I've got to be at work in an hour and a half, guys.
They've been here for us for almost 5 hours, bro.
That's not fair to them.
Might as well keep the party going now.
I mean, you might as well.
It's fine.
Okay, okay.
If they gotta go, they gotta go.
If y'all gotta go, I mean, look.
I ain't gonna take y'all off, bro.
If y'all wanna go, I'm gonna kick those other bitches off.
But if y'all wanna get off, go.
That's totally cool.
I know you guys gotta work.
But I know the people probably want some more fresh.
If the girls gotta go, y'all gotta go.
It's cool.
I ain't gonna hold it against you.
Like, you guys, the last three, cool.
I'm gonna keep y'all on.
But these other chicks, fuck them.
Up to you.
I mean, are we finishing soon?
What's the time estimate?
Are we getting some pizza?
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Pro, go ahead.
Take us away.
What's the question?
Where can they find you?
Oh, where can they find me?
Okay.
I have a YouTube channel called Just Pearly Things, and I'm on Instagram, Just Pearly Things 1, and on Twitter, Pearly Things with a Z. I was on TikTok, but I was banned like seven times, so now I'm not on TikTok.
TikTok is so lame.
Yeah, this is my second Instagram too.
And yeah, I'm trying to get to 2 million subscribers soon.
I'm kind of close, so feel free to go sub.
I didn't get a chance to ask the fucking fat girl who runs the United States.
That was the question I wanted to ask her and see what she was going to say.
What did you guys think of my song?
Rao.
We're on Rumble now, aren't we?
I thought it was hilarious.
I thought it was hilarious.
You know what's so funny?
Pierce tried to grill you on it.
Yeah, I didn't really think it was that deep, but I guess it was just a freestyle.
You opened up a can of worms there.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, guys, we'll be back in Miami, I think, this week sometime.
Probably by, we'll have a show for y'all on Friday.
We're probably not going to do a show on Wednesday, because that's when we're traveling and shit.
We'll do Overwatch.
But Friday, we'll do, yeah, maybe we'll do a stream on Wednesday overnight.
Well, sorry, Overwatch.
Thursday or Wednesday, yeah.
Yeah, Thursday or Wednesday, depending on how late we get in, and then we'll do a show for y'all on Friday.
Guys, check out Troy and check out Pearlman.
They've been in the game for a bit.
Check them out.
We might have Troy again with a special guest in the future.
We're talking some things out.
You guys are going to be really happy with the guests that we're going to get on with Troy.
And next time you guys come to London, you'll be our red pill bachelors.
We'll have women compete today.
Oh really?
That'll be hilarious.
You can hand out like roses every round.
That's actually a good idea.
What do you think, Myron, just on that point before I was saying about the transactional nature of dating, do you guys think it's getting, from Miami, do you think it's getting more transactional?
Do you think it's increasing year on year?
100%.
What I've noticed is the more hot the girl, the more transactional it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Because the hottest girls almost always monetize their beauty.
There's almost like a glass ceiling.
I'll tell you this, bro.
I have friends from all over, successful guys.
They DM chicks.
Even me recently as well.
And then it's like, oh, I'm coming to your town.
Like, let's hang out.
And then, oh yeah, I'll meet you, babe.
And it's like, hold on.
Here's a, here's a issue though.
She's like, yeah, I'll meet you, but, um, you pay for my time.
I'm like, bitch, who are you talking to?
I'm not paying for shit.
But again, that's a lot of hot girls on Instagram.
So imagine how much is happening behind the scenes in your city.
People are critical of OnlyFans, but there's a lot of girls that are like sugar babies on the low.
There's a lot of girls that sell pussy on the low.
By the way, not OnlyFans, Instagram.
It seems like the sugaring thing is almost seeping into other platforms now.
You know what I'm saying?
Snapchat.
TikTok, Instagram?
It's very difficult for you to find a girl that's attractive that doesn't monetize her beauty to some degree.
Like, it's very difficult.
Whether she's a bottle girl or a stripper or on OnlyFans or puts her fucking cash app on her fucking Instagram profile, like, very rarely do you not see a girl that doesn't monetize her beauty.
very rarely is what i've noticed especially and then you compound that with like being in an expensive city like a miami in la a london a dubai etc anytime you have hot girls in a major expensive city they're always not always but 90 percent of the time they're monetizing their beauty yeah well it's i've been blown away by how many girls i've met the last I feel like I was so sheltered before I did this show.
And how many girls I've met that are low-key on OnlyFans, doing cam work, sugar.
It's crazy.
And I was thinking in the next 10 years, I think sex work is just gonna be out in the open.
It's not taboo anymore.
It's gonna be normal.
People just shrug at it.
It's gonna be the new normal.
We brought a bunch of girls on our show that were former teachers and shit, lost their jobs.
There was a fucking bimbo lawyer that comes on our show.
She fucking quit being a lawyer, right?
I don't know if she was actually ever a lawyer, but whatever.
The point is that she quit a respectable profession to do this because They make more money, and it's easier.
You know what else I think?
I don't think having a strong father is a guarantee either, because I think it helps.
It helps, yeah.
But I don't know.
I've seen kids that are with multiple siblings, and they just turn out completely different.
I don't know.
Because that's what...
But I agree.
I think 100%, Troy, where we're headed, my future, and I will close this thing out, my prediction is I think it is going to become more transactional.
The guys that aren't going to have a transaction are the top-tier guys that are not only physically attractive, but they have their money on point, and they have framed.
They could put these women in their place, and they have what I call...
Forget the guy's name.
I want to give him credit, but he calls it being a dark gentleman, which is you have the provider traits, the chivalry traits that women like and are attracted to, but you also have the domineering, Machiavellian, asshole traits that women are aroused by.
So you're able to kind of burn the candle from both ends and keep her Yeah, and that's probably what that guy did.
That's what that girl 100% needs.
She needs a guy to tell her, like, shut the fuck up and sit home, you dumb bitch.
That's what she needs.
I mean, the other girl, I literally said, shut the fuck up.
And she was like, oh, that's hot.
That's number one.
Like, I hate that.
I wish I could be a fucking nice guy, but you can't with these girls.
You have to put your foot down.
She literally said, he doesn't have boundaries.
Translation, he lets me walk all over him.
I really like nice guys, though.
LOL. I do.
I like nice guys.
Have you tasted them?
I have.
Why are they now?
They're not there because they took advantage of the fact that I like nice guys.
Oh, so they weren't so nice after all.
Oh, fair enough.
So what I think is, it's going to be transactional for a majority of men, except for the top guys that have everything else in check.
And I agree, bro, good point.
I think sex work is going to explode even more.
So it's going to be normal.
We're going to get to a point, I think within the next 50 years, probably sooner, but where it's going to be common for a guy to say, Oh yeah, I have an OnlyFans account on the side or I do some type of XYZ professional on the side selling my sexuality and it's going to be totally socially acceptable.
Tusk was telling me something about girls billing guys for their time.
You know, they turn up on the day and if she doesn't like him then she's like sending him a bill and some of these guys are actually paying the fucking bill.
Yeah.
Shit like that, you know?
They're so lazy.
I was brought up in a family where you just worked hard.
Didn't matter man or woman, you work hard at things and you're passionate about it and that's what you're supposed to do.
But it's like these chicks, they just don't want to do anything.
There's greed as well.
I don't know.
It's the easy way out in a sense, OnlyFans.
You're independent.
You make money.
You make your own schedule.
I don't have to go to work.
Fuck it.
Just do it.
You know, also, I've noticed, because you mentioned something good about working hard or whatever.
If girls don't play sports or some kind of activity in their teenage years, I've also noticed that they also do dumb shit and become hoes.
If they weren't, like, if they didn't play it and, like, take it seriously.
Yeah.
Like, you know, obviously, you know, athlete chicks be hoes as well.
But it kind of...
It limits it a bit when they've had, like, something to occupy them from doing dumb shit in their formative years.
Yeah.
Man, it all holds, man.
Majority are.
Majority are.
There's some good girls out there, but majority are.
Good.
I'm gonna bounce.
Yeah!
Is that all right?
Yeah, we're gonna close out.
Shout me on reetqri__tq on my Instagram.
But thank you, guys.
Cool.
No worries.
Thanks for coming.
You're really cool.
Thank you.
And you guys, thanks.
Thanks a lot.
Well, nobody else has anything, right?
Appreciate it.
Alright, we'll just close it out, man.
Guys, check out everybody below and we'll catch you guys on Friday's episode, maybe Overwatch.
We love y'all.
I know this was a long one.
Hope you guys enjoyed it.
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