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Feb. 6, 2024 - Fresh & Fit
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Should Men Open Up To Women? Hood Singer Fights Chris & THIS Happened…
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Welcome to Fresh Hit Podcast.
After our transition, we're joined with, I think, nine girls today?
Nine.
Let's get into it.
it.
Let's go.
My money cares, bro.
Get out.
Get out.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't gotta put them on in here.
All right.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fresh Fit Podcast After Hours Edition.
Quick announcement before we get into the show.
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As you guys know...
We're going to be leaving on Thursday to Vegas.
Yeah, we're going to be leaving on Thursday to Vegas.
And we'll also be in Europe as well.
So we'll be gone.
We'll probably be off the air for about one week to ten days-ish, somewhat like that, maybe two weeks at the most.
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So check us out over there on castleclub.tv.
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And then also check me out on Twitter, guys, unpluggedfidex.
I am shadow banned to fucking hell right now.
But check me out over there.
Let's get to 100k.
I was growing quickly, and then obviously I made some comments about certain topics, and of course they're going to go ahead and shadowban me.
Look at the last tweet.
What?
Hey man, let's move forward, bro.
Hey, I didn't even post that one.
Shout out to my guy, Musa.
Oh my god.
The tweets are me, the videos are not me.
So I got a guy that posts the videos.
Ladies, don't read that reason.
Don't read that.
That's fucking funny.
And then check me out by the YouTube channel, guys.
FedReactsMan.
I'm in the process right now.
Actually, I was right before this show.
I was re-uploading the Bonnie and Clyde video.
So that will be up there.
Last one I did was also the Vince McMahon.
If you guys like true crime, I cover everything from Epstein to serial killers to...
You know, even civil cases with the Vince McMahon stuff.
I cover hip-hop cases, all that stuff.
So if you like true crime, go check me out.
FedReacts over there.
What about you?
And guys, I feel like vlogs, man, inspiration, motivation to go to the vlog channel.
Recently, we went to a car show on Saturday, actually, Cars and Coffee in Miami.
Very good car show, but more importantly, my friend was there, Lambo Raul.
He's 25 years old, owns a Bugatti Chevron.
All carbon fiber, all spiked out.
And it's inspiring me because he's a young kid, man, doing his thing, making money.
So I feel like for most people, if you want to have it where you can have your dream car, it's possible.
You can just call it a button that works.
It's a very good stream.
Sorry, vlog, go check it out.
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Wait, Fresh, is that the only thing you did on Saturday night, or Saturday, through the day?
He was donating to the church.
Wait, what do you mean, bro?
No, no, no, you know, just you weren't walking around a certain place with the fresh fresh things Fresh thanks again for donating to the church last Saturday I appreciate that.
I got you, bro.
Always, man.
Man of God.
All praise to the most high.
Chat, we got nine girls on the panel.
One repeat and eight new girls.
So, hey, we're still kicking.
We're still doing it strong.
Shout out to the ladies for coming through.
I mean, they've seen our clips and they still come.
I don't know what the fuck, but other than that, ladies, if you want to come on to Fletcher Fit, Aaron C. Puckson on IG, make sure you come on.
Recently, I've had more girls wanting to come on to our show, so shout out to you, ladies.
Please don't send me paragraphs.
Don't have your page on private.
I want to see your face.
I want to see your body.
I want to see what you look like.
You know, at the end of the day, man, you're on camera, so don't be like, don't body shame me!
I'm like, yes, I will body shame you because it's fresh and fit, niggas, alright?
So, other than that, ladies, have a great show.
And let's support Chris's channel on YouTube as well.
Yes, guys, follow my channel on YouTube, my gaming channel.
Give me 21K tonight if you can.
Right now, I'm at 602.
So, yeah, shout out to the merch gang, man.
Hopefully you know what he's saying.
Alright, ladies!
If you don't mind, you do know what I'm saying, bro.
I'll be...
I'm just kidding, bro.
Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status.
We're going to start right here.
Welcome back.
My name's Linda.
I turned 26 on Sunday.
I'm from Toronto, and I'm an accountant for a non-profit organization called Saint T, and I also have my own small bookkeeping business for small businesses, and I model as well.
All right.
And also your dating status?
Single.
Spicy.
Anybody count?
Education.
Oh, I have a bachelor's degree in accounting.
No, your body count.
I don't care about that.
What is it?
You actually want me to answer?
Yeah, say it.
Fifteen.
Hundred?
Okay.
Alright, are your parents still together?
No, they're divorced.
Okay.
And then birth control?
I'm not on any birth control.
I want all the babies.
Oh my goodness, the babies are calling.
I mean, I'm 26 times a ticket.
Lovely.
Fresh?
What about you?
Nigga, what do you say, bro?
What about you?
My name is Marcella.
I'm 30.
Wait, 30?
Yes.
Thank you.
Oh, thank you.
I'm from Boca Raton.
What?
Boca?
Boca Raton.
I work in tech and I... Highest education level?
Sorry, oh thank you.
Bachelor's.
In what?
Elementary Education and International Business.
Nice.
FAU. Alright.
Go Owls.
Sorry, and what was the other one?
Relationship status?
Single.
Okay.
And then, are your parents still together?
Yes.
Okay.
30 years.
30 years?
Okay.
And then, are you on birth control?
No.
Alright.
Yo, chat, chill, man.
Alright, damn.
What about you?
My name's Natalia.
I'm from Orange County, California.
I'm 27.
Hey, Natalia.
Okay.
Are you here visiting or are you...
I live here.
You live here now?
Yeah.
You're from the OC originally?
Please, can you stop shouting at us?
Sorry.
Thanks.
I'll speak closer.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I am unemployed.
You said unemployed?
Yes.
Yeah.
I guess I'm a stay-at-home girlfriend.
Okay.
W, okay.
Yeah, right.
So, hi, is your case level completed?
Associates in psychology.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright.
And then relationship status, you said you had a girlfriend, right?
Boyfriend.
Well, I'm saying you're a girlfriend.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How'd you guys meet?
It's a pretty shitty story.
Just a bar.
Yeah, just a bar.
Okay.
How long have y'all been together?
Almost three years.
What does he do?
He's actually an influencer.
He's an influencer, yeah.
Oh my god.
YouTube, Instagram.
He's on YouTube?
He works for Happy Dad, Nelk, the Nelk boys.
I don't know if you know.
He's pretty low-key though, but he's growing.
Do we know him?
Probably not, but he's more in the behind the scenes, but he works...
I don't know.
Well, if he's an influencer, that would mean that he's on the camera.
I don't want to say his name.
Is he behind the scenes or not?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's, yeah.
I'm going to ask Salim.
Is he like the camera guy or some shit?
Yeah, I know Salim.
Salim knows me.
Okay, so yes.
You can ask Salim.
He'll tell me.
Because if it's not Kyle or Stiney, then it's someone behind the scenes.
Yeah, he's pretty behind the scenes, honestly.
He's kind of the more lovely.
So he's not an influencer.
He works for them.
Wait, question.
Because if he was an influencer, he'd be on camera, right?
Unless you want to tell us.
Not right now.
Is he like an audio engineer, camera guy?
No, he films whenever they travel for work.
He goes with them.
So he's a camera guy?
No, he's not a camera guy.
He's behind the camera.
I don't want to say his name right now.
No, I'm not saying you have to say his name.
No, I'm saying you can say his name.
No, you don't have to.
If you're going to say influencer, that means he's a public figure and we would know who he is and he's on camera.
But you're saying he's behind the scenes, which that's not...
I don't think you guys would know him, though.
He's still kind of growing.
His following is kind of growing.
They're saying that's Cousin Jay?
No.
No, she's a bad liar, bro.
She said hell no about Cousin Jay.
What the fuck?
That's my bro, man.
No offense to him, but I know who he is, too.
Okay.
Well, I have no clue what you're talking about.
It's just weird.
Like, if he's an influence, that means he's in front of the camera and people know who he is.
Hence, his ability to influence because he has an audience.
That's true.
If he's behind the scenes, then he's...
Okay, his name is Jimmy Gambles.
I don't know if you guys...
You probably don't know who he is.
I don't know.
I have not a clue.
Okay, you can look him up on Instagram.
Either way, show up to him.
He travels with him.
Okay, cool.
It's a question.
Did you smash on the first date?
Come on.
No, he was...
No, no.
No.
Really?
No handjob?
Oh, I'm spicy.
I hate that much today.
I'm trying to find it.
Come on, Jimmy.
Come on.
All right.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
Yes.
Birth control?
No.
What about you?
My name is Milan.
Hey y'all!
How old are you?
26.
Where are you from?
New York originally, Harlem.
New York in the building?
Harlem in the building.
Do you live here now or are you just visiting?
I just moved to Miami like three months ago.
She belongs to the streets.
Is Don Hill from here?
No, I'm out here on a contract, a recording contract with a multi-platinum artist.
Definitely not for the streets.
Okay.
Let's not get it confused.
So you're a musician?
I'm a recording artist.
I sing, yeah.
She belongs to the streets.
Well, you're on a big platform right now.
Could you give us a rendition real quick?
Something smooth for the ladies?
A singing?
I would love that.
So I decided I would try it Because I couldn't fight it I would do it so good I'd have them making me pancakes in the morning Making me pancakes in the morning Okay, yo, hold on real quick.
Bills and Moe, tell me, one out of ten, what do you rate at?
Like a solid nine.
She did it.
She went in.
You can tell just by the confidence that she's actually a singer, so I'll give it to her.
Moe?
Nine.
Straight up nine.
Thank you, Moe.
I usually get shy, but y'all are so homie that I feel good.
Wait, you said, are you signed or...
No, I'm actually purposely independent.
Universal offered me two deals.
I'm trying to stay independent.
Okay.
Maybe after Meg signed her deal, maybe I'll try to flitter around with the labels.
But, you know, she had to do that for us to have some rights.
Oh, wow.
Who's investing?
Meg Thee Stallion has signed her deal.
She owns her.
Question for you.
Oh, shit.
Who you got?
Ice Spice or Lotto?
Aw, man, why you ask me that?
I just left Atlanta for six years, so I've been an avid Lotto fan.
And then I'm from Harlem, so Ice Spice.
I don't know.
No comment.
Okay, last one from me.
Beautiful women.
I got all the beautiful women.
They're both hot.
I got you now.
Nicki Minaj or Meg Thee Stallion?
Shit.
I like the way Meg handles herself hands down.
My mentor had Beyonce since she was eight years old, so I'm totally on Houston's side.
I love Beyonce's character.
But Nicki Minaj, I love her.
I feel like Meg hit a knob, hit a pin on her, and it made her kind of go crazy.
But I feel like Nicki could have kept her composure a little bit more.
I think she was doing really, really well with her new album.
She should have never...
The devil always works.
That's all I can say.
But Meg put Tori in jail, though.
That's an L, bro.
It's an L. Yeah, but we don't know what happened, for real.
If he really shot her, then you don't think he deserves to be there?
He didn't shoot her.
Come on.
I don't know.
He never said he didn't.
Well, he in a stitch.
Well, he couldn't take the stand.
Well, he didn't take the stand.
Free Tory, man.
Yeah, he didn't.
Free Tory, man.
He's a great artist.
I'll say Free Tory.
It was her friend that shot her, man.
But if he really shot her, maybe not.
I don't know.
It was her friend that shot her, man.
All the evidence points to her friend shooting her, but that's fine.
But we won't have you comment on that.
But you're good at avoiding questions, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, highest education level completed.
Well, I graduated the top of my class, high school.
Yeah, but I didn't go to college because I sing, so I went to like a renowned vocal class.
Okay.
Okay.
Relationship status?
Whatever I want to do.
I don't know.
So single, I guess?
No, definitely not.
My ex is begging, so I don't know.
Whatever I want to do, if I feel like doing that, if I feel like going back home, if I feel like getting married, just being home.
And if I really like you.
I would say by definition that means you're single because you can do what you want to do.
I wish.
You just said you could do whatever you want to do.
I didn't say that anybody knew about it.
I said I can do whatever I want.
So the power's in your hands, basically.
Of course.
Uh-oh.
Okay, so...
Just as confusing as y'all, huh?
Okay, so why don't you want him, then?
Um, okay.
So he's a multi-millionaire but very toxic and I don't do toxicity.
Is he an artist too?
Actually, he used to be.
He's in real estate now.
He used to be Waka and he used to be signing Gucci.
So he used to be an artist.
He's not anymore.
What's toxic about him?
Oh my god, where do we start?
Pull up the list.
Sure, go ahead.
You used to be a rapper?
Yeah.
Number one.
That's what?
You know what was so toxic?
In the beginning of our relationship, he liked Kevin Samuels.
That was like it.
That put a real big...
Wait a minute.
Between us, because I'd never seen Kevin Samuels before then.
And once he introduced me to Kevin Samuels, I was like, yeah, so I don't know how I feel about you.
So he's toxic because he likes Kevin Samuels.
He likes the toxic things about Kevin Samuels.
Such as?
I love that Kevin Samuels speaks highly of women.
I like that he speaks highly...
Like, he tells women what they should be doing.
He gives direction.
But I don't like the discrimination.
I don't like the insults.
Like, so it's...
But he was more on, like, the insults.
If you're over 30, no one's gonna want you.
I mean, he ain't lying.
Be with one person.
Obviously, he was a millionaire, so he was a high-valued man, and I didn't give a fuck about that.
So we kind of clashed right there.
Well, that's why you're still single.
No, he actively still wants to be with me.
It's my choice.
To be honest, if we're being honest, I moved to Miami to get away because he wouldn't leave me alone.
So you don't want him?
Huh?
So you don't want him at all?
No, I did, but he felt like he can do what he want.
He was a very successful man.
I feel like he had every right to, and we just was on different pages.
I didn't feel that...
You didn't want that?
No, absolutely not.
My parents have been married for almost 35 years, so your money doesn't mean anything to me.
And obviously, you try to replace me, you still can't, no matter what they have, so it doesn't mean anything to you either.
So are we going to get on the same page, or are we going to keep playing around?
So he wanted an open relationship, and you didn't want that?
No, he definitely didn't ask for an open relationship.
He just wanted to be...
I don't even know.
It wasn't even about the girls.
It was more of his mindset.
Like, his words.
Like, I want you to do this.
I want you to have kids.
I want you to...
He built me a $40,000 studio, but he doesn't want any of my engineers in the studio.
He wants his...
But then he never has time for me.
So I'm like, well, what are we doing?
Like, are you supporting me?
I wanted to get my titties done for my birthday.
And he said yes.
And then he was like, you're going to leave me.
You're going to cheat on me.
You're going to get famous.
And then I was like, I'm good.
Does that make sense?
Not really.
It sounds like he's insecure if you ask me.
Because I wasn't insecure.
Okay.
So the first thing was you didn't like that he watched Kevin Samuels.
No, it's just the way he introduced me to him was kind of saying like, oh, I'm a high value man and you da da da.
And I'm like, I don't even know what you make.
I don't care what you make.
We didn't even have that conversation yet.
I see you have your own house.
I see you have your own car.
You look like you take care of yourself.
That's all I needed to know.
You said he was a multi-millionaire, so you know he makes something.
No, I didn't know that.
I really didn't know that until way after Kevin Samuels, to be honest.
So he's right.
About what?
What was that, Mo?
So does he sponsor your independency?
He did.
All up until me getting bigger than what he can control.
Does that make sense?
So you don't think that on some level, he's like, you know what, this is my girl.
I want her to win.
But obviously, to protect you from certain things, he wants a little bit of control.
You know, because obviously the world's crazy out there when it comes to the rap game, industry game.
So maybe he's like, you know what, just to protect you, here's the things that you should put in place so that I can make sure you're good.
Yes.
But then his...
We're all pretty women.
Okay, so his ex-girlfriend was fairly successful.
But if you ask me, she looked like a dyke.
Very different from me.
She left him because they had a threesome.
And she had too much fun with her best friend with him.
And he tried to make her leave the best friend.
And the ex-girlfriend left him because she said he was too controlling.
So just to let you know, like...
I think that one, he's controlling because even his ex-girlfriend thought so.
And then me, I think he used to date a little bit underneath him to make him feel better.
And I mean, he picked me.
I didn't pick him.
So I was, you know, I'm not going to go down because you like to date down.
But wait, I do because you just said something that was a little interesting.
You said that you feel like he dates down to make himself feel better.
Do you feel like you're down and that's why he dated you?
Okay, so if we're going to be honest.
No, that's a really good question.
Can we be honest?
So when he met me, and this is where I knew where the disconnect was.
When he met me, I was shopping in Publix with my doggy stroller.
So you don't know who you're meeting.
Touche.
I have my doggy stroller.
I probably look like, you know, that's like, you know, so he I think he forgot a tomato because he wanted to make tacos and I forgot something in the vegetable section and we kind of ran into each other.
So I don't think we knew each other and I don't think we cared.
I think it was about like a genuine connection at that moment.
But after that, the matrix got involved, whether his way or my way.
And then.
Here we are now.
The Matrix, wow.
Yeah, he actually told me, like, you don't understand.
I can get whatever I want, whoever I want.
Like, I'm living in the Matrix.
And I was like, oh, okay, that's nice.
We were best friends, so I do understand.
But that has nothing to do with me and my standards of what I expect from a relationship.
You said it was controlling.
What did he do that was like controlling?
Everything, even with the studio.
I couldn't control...
How you build me a studio and then I can't even bring my engineers that I've been working with 10 plus years with to the studio to record me.
Maybe his engineers were better?
Actually, they were, but he was like so busy.
No, because he was working with Gucci, so trust me.
But at the same time, if no one is recording, then it doesn't matter who's better or not.
If you don't have time, if your engineers don't have time, you're selling real estate, doing everything you're doing, And then it's stuck in your apartment.
So I need a key to your apartment to get in whenever I want.
He has some stuff going on there, so I couldn't do that.
So it's like a lot of control.
It's like a dangling thing, which is cool, but I'm not a little girl or a dog.
So that wasn't going to work with me.
So who's going to fund it now?
I do.
I have so many questions, but we'll move on.
Are your parents still together?
They are.
35 years.
My mom was 17.
She's been with one other man when she was like 17 and that's it.
That's beautiful.
Are you on birth control?
No, I'm all natural.
Never been on birth control before.
What about you?
My name is That Girl Luli.
I am a motivational speaker, life coach.
First name That Girl?
No.
Last name Luli?
Basically, basically, basically.
My real name is Luz Mari.
It means light in Spanish.
Luli.
Okay, how old are you?
I am timeless, but I'm 30, I'll tell you guys.
Are you 30?
Yes.
Where are you from?
Puerto Rico.
Okay.
Do you live here at Miami now or do you...
No, I was here on vacation, yeah.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
You said motivational speaker?
Motivational speaker, life coach, and I'm also an actress.
I actually did my first short film where I wrote it, directed it, scripted it, and starred in it.
It is speaking on domestic violence from a male's point of view.
From a male point of view?
Wow.
Yeah.
I raised my little brother for five years and just seeing that men don't really have a voice.
You know, if I slap the shit out of you, it's like, what did he do?
He must have cheated.
He must have done something.
But if you slap the shit out of me...
It's different, right?
It's super intense.
It's rated M for Mature.
It's 30 minutes.
But it really, I think, is something that is going to change perspective and really help people.
Very interesting.
I was talking about this a month or two ago.
They found that in domestic violence situations, when there's one antagonizer, it's almost always the female to the male.
There's higher likelihoods of the woman actually attacking the guy.
But most of the time, both of them beat the shit out of each other.
But when it's one way, it's mostly always the female to the male.
Absolutely.
It's not as much as the male to the female as people think.
Right.
And that's what the film kind of covers is like how far is too far?
It's not to justify, right?
But it's to see that some people can be pushed to their limits.
And when a woman's pushed to her limits, it's kind of accepted by society versus if a man's pushed to his limits, now he's aggressive, now he's this, he's that.
And, you know, I don't want to give it away because it really is a good watch.
And the link is in my Instagram.
But at the end of it...
What's the name of it?
Microscopic.
Microscopic.
What platform is it on?
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
What, I guess, do you have kids?
No.
So my little brother, my mom passed away five years ago.
When she passed, he was 13.
And I decided to, you know, step up and take him.
Because if not, he would have ended up in like Ohio or Puerto Rico or, you know, my family.
And I couldn't leave him.
That's my baby.
That's very good of you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Thank you.
It's been a rough journey, but at the same time, I wouldn't be the woman I am today if it wasn't for that.
How old is he?
He's 19 now, so I put him through high school and he's in college now.
Shout out to Louie.
I love you, baby.
And I'm so proud of him.
He's such a good kid.
He has a girlfriend he's been with now for almost two years.
I put him on game.
I try to express to him that women are the prize, but so aren't men.
And the reason that we are a prize is because of the man, if that makes sense.
You're not somebody only because of that, but if he sees that in you, It's because of him.
That's a reflection of you if he's seeing that in you.
Like, you attracted that energy because you are that.
So, you know, I just, me showing him that and the way he treats his girlfriend and the way she treats him, it's just, it's beautiful.
Okay.
What's your highest education level completed?
So I have three different licenses.
I do aesthetics, dental, and laser technician as well.
But right now, I'm fully committed into my streaming on TikTok.
I was just at the TikTok Live Fest, so I was very honored to be there.
I do it professionally.
I have my own studio.
I do motivational speaking on there, life coaching, comedy, ASMR, all that good stuff.
You came in full package, goddamn.
Okay, relationship status?
Single and celibate.
Single and celibate.
Stop the cap!
No cap, baby.
How long you been celibate?
She a little dusty.
She got some cobwebs in there.
Come on, bro.
You're Puerto Rican.
Baby, do you know how hard it is?
It's hard.
Ain't no way.
How long you been?
It's hard.
It's hard.
You're Puerto Rican.
I know you guys.
How about your mouth, though?
Your mouth celibate?
Yes, baby.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
Come on, man.
It's your celibate.
No, because you want to know something?
I mean, she has a nice seat, though.
Thank you.
You want to know something?
I truly believe in love.
I feel like the reason why I'm on my platform and that it's growing is because I do truly believe that I'm going to have a husband and I'm going to cater to him and love him.
But you're 30, so how much long you got to wait?
But guess what, puppy?
The reason I'm 30 and single is because I gave up five years of my life to take care of my little brother.
I mean, don't punish the guy.
But I had to because think about it, right?
It was like, if a guy wants to go out with me on a Wednesday, he's not really understanding that I got to bring my brother to school the next day.
I have certain responsibilities.
He's looking at me like, no, what do you mean?
You're single.
You don't have kids.
And my brother, in that moment, he had to come first.
No, but now I'm saying now.
Oh, but now it's just like, I just, he just left the nest.
You know what I mean?
So I'm like, okay, like all day.
So then get to work.
Get to work.
Get to work.
Spicy, spicy.
You have to catch up.
Let's go.
Hi.
When's the last time you had sex then?
If you're celibate.
Don't cap.
No, I'm being serious.
It's been now almost three months because I was with somebody who I really fell for type of thing.
Before that, it was almost a year.
But it was something where I felt like we've known each other since we were kids and it was very electrifying.
It was very beautiful.
Why'd you break up?
If you want me to be honest, I think we were both scared.
Nah, he smashed and dashed, bro.
Huh?
He smashed and dashed.
No, no, it wasn't like that.
No, it wasn't like that.
Really?
It wasn't.
And the reason why I'm saying it is because...
You broke up with him or he broke up with you?
I did.
And the reason why it was because we dishrooms, we did a spiritual trip, and, like, I'm a shaman, so shout out to the most high.
And...
Hey, listen, you can...
Mario!
- I love this.
- What the fuck?
- I love this.
- Mario, what?
- It's me, Mario. - I heard somebody say that in a minute.
- Mamma mia.
- I'm a shaman. - I'm a shaman.
I'm so serious.
I'm a shaman.
I take people on spiritual trips.
I help them heal.
I help them with their trauma.
I think a lot of women and men alike, we can get into situations or do certain things because of the fact that we've been hurt or somebody did something to us when we were younger.
And That's where I'm at with it, that it's like, you don't have to go that route.
You don't have to do certain things.
Listen, I'll tell you this.
I love that we need that.
You're the third person to tell me that they did shrooms with their partner and they broke up, literally.
I don't know why, but that's just weird.
No, because, papi, here's the thing, right?
When you...
Oh, papi, oh.
I say it a lot.
It's a term of endearment.
But, like, what it is, is, right, when you do shrooms, If you are not ready to face yourself, it could be the most scariest thing in the world, right?
But if you're ready to see you, and then you're having the trip with somebody, you can see everything.
And I wasn't necessarily scared of his flaws or his darkness, but I know that in order for us, because I believe, listen, I'm going to be real, I love that man.
I love him, but I truly believe that in order for me to be his wife, I have things that I have to control.
Like, I like being a submissive.
I want to be quiet.
I want to rub your feet.
I want to rub your head.
I want to love you and cater to you.
But he's not that man for you.
It's not that he's...
Not right now.
Not right now.
There you go.
Not right now.
But I do believe that he is an amazing man.
So you're telling me it took shrooms to figure out?
Come on, bro!
Come on, bro!
But you know why?
Because it's different if you're a great man and you have all these things going for you, but you have this darkness within you that you're not ready to face, like childhood and things like that.
A lot of men, when they finally really realize that they don't have to deal with all that, they become their highest version, and that's when they can really be and provide.
Is it darkness?
Oh, so...
Was he black?
No, but we, you know, we don't come from much.
You know what I mean?
Like, I grew up in the projects.
Like, I didn't...
Oh, okay.
So, that's a long way to say he was broke.
So, you broke up with him.
No, actually, he's very successful.
No, no, no.
He's very successful, man.
Well, I'm talking about when we grew up.
Like, I've known him since I was, like, eight years old.
Okay.
Well, no.
All right.
That was a great intro.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
You said your mom...
My mom passed away, yeah.
So, my dad is actually remarried now.
Okay.
But they were together before that?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
And then birth control?
No need.
Alright, body count?
Crickets.
No, my dad watches your podcast.
That's weird.
I told him not to even watch my short film because it's rated M. Like, that's weird.
Pobre.
You gotta put the R in there.
Pobre.
Okay, what about you?
What's your name?
Hey, y'all!
Hey, I'm Jasmine Hayes.
Okay.
How old are you, Jasmine?
I'm 32.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm originally from Indiana.
Oh wow.
What part of Indiana are you from?
South Bend.
Okay.
I live in West Palm Beach, Florida now.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I am an OnlyFans model.
Wait, at 32?
Yeah.
Shout out to you.
Okay.
Okay.
Highest education level completed?
One year of college.
Just one year.
Okay.
So high school completed though.
Yeah.
And then relationship status?
I am dating someone.
How'd you guys meet?
At a club.
Which club?
UT. At Club Lived.
Okay.
That's not bad.
Love in the club.
Is it exclusive or no?
Keep it a bean.
It is exclusive.
For you or for him?
For both of us.
How do you know?
I don't.
I don't.
I've been dating him for five years now.
And you don't know if it's exclusive?
Many men.
Many, many, many, many, many.
It's exclusive.
It's exclusive.
Oh, wait.
Hold on.
You're saying she'd like 50 cents?
So, okay.
So is he your boyfriend or not?
Because you kind of phrased it as, like, you guys are just seeing each other, but...
We're...
He is considered my boyfriend.
I do apologize.
He's my boyfriend.
He is?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Does he...
But would he...
Like, if we asked him, would he say that you...
Would he claim you as his girl?
Of course.
Not.
He would!
He would.
Oh, yeah?
Shout out to Jimmy.
Wait, the same Jimmy that she's dating?
And what does Jimmy do for a living?
Since y'all been together for five years?
I don't know if I could say.
He's a CFO. Okay.
But I can't tell you for the company and stuff.
He's a professional.
Shout out to him.
And you guys have been seeing each other for five years and no engagement, no nothing, no ring?
Nope.
Wait, is he white?
Yes.
Okay.
What does that have to do?
No, no, because I don't get into details here, but obviously speaking, it makes sense.
Oh, because he's white?
Yeah.
He's probably like, you know what?
Alright, it's my little black bitch over here.
Go up in America!
Go up in America!
Bring it to the table!
Get up!
Mom and Dad!
Look away!
Why can't it be?
I understand.
I'm just saying how it looks.
I'm just not ready.
I'm just not ready for marriage.
What are you not ready for?
A man to love you, cater you, be with you.
I'm not ready.
You know what it is?
He ain't that nigga.
That's what it is.
He's a wigger.
What?
How about he doesn't watch this?
He is probably watching this.
I love you.
Does Jimmy manage your OnlyFans?
No, he does not.
He knows about it, right?
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
He's white, bro.
You think that might be a part of the reason why he's not committed, maybe?
Especially since he has a corporate job?
No, I don't think so.
You don't think so?
No.
Okay.
Alright, so you guys met at Live five years ago.
Cool.
Are your parents together?
I am adopted, so no.
My mom raised me single.
Birth control?
No.
Okay.
What about you?
Hi, my name's Aisha.
Sorry, Aisha?
Aisha.
Aisha, okay.
How old are you?
I'm 20.
Where are you from?
I'm from Chicago, but I came to Miami for school, so I go to the University of Miami.
Okay.
All right.
What are you, I'm guessing, full-time student?
Yeah.
Okay.
What are you majoring in?
I am double majoring in finance and health management.
Okay.
You said UM? Yeah.
Okay.
Relative status?
Single.
Okay.
And parents are together?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
Of course.
Of course.
No, never.
What's your background?
I am Indian.
How did I know?
Pairs together?
Yeah.
Statistics show it all.
Are you Muslim or what are you?
Yeah, I'm Muslim.
You are?
Ram, hair ain't covered.
What's your ethnic background?
Thank you for reminding me.
I'm Indian.
No, I know yours.
You.
I'm African American.
Okay.
As far as I know, I haven't...
You're Puerto Rican.
What are you?
My mom is all Puerto Rican.
My dad is black.
Okay.
Dad is all Puerto...
My dad is black.
My mom is Puerto Rican.
Okay.
And then what about you?
My mom's Mexican and then my dad's American.
Caucasian or...
I don't know.
He's like a mutt.
He's like white, Spanish.
He's like fourth generation.
I have no idea.
Okay.
What's your dog?
You should talk to him.
He's a mutt.
I know.
He's like Native American.
He's a dog.
I know.
Okay.
All right.
What about you, Marcel?
What's your ethnic background?
I'm Middle Eastern and Latina or Hispanic.
What country from the Middle East specifically?
Palestinian, Syrian.
Okay, welcome.
Who's Palestinian, your mom or your dad?
So my mom's side of the family, but they moved from Palestine to Honduras.
So then there's the Latina.
When did they leave?
My grandma moved there, so like, I'm not really sure too much on the details, but yeah.
Not like recently, like maybe a hundred years ago.
Oh shit, BC? No.
I'm just kidding.
Probably right around 1948 for certain reasons.
Yeah.
Around that time?
Yeah.
And then they moved to Honduras and then I grew up with more of a mixed background.
So Hispanic and...
Alright, but your family is Honduran pretty much?
Yeah, but Arabic.
Do you speak Arabic?
A few words, but no.
But I relate more with both.
Because they still kept the customs and everything like that.
Did they cross the ocean?
Yeah.
Are they Muslim or not?
Christian?
Yeah, Christian.
Okay.
And then you just Caucasian, I guess?
Yeah, Canadian.
Canadian.
Came from Scotland, so the colonizers, you know.
All right.
And then, all right, so we got you.
It's cold over there, eh?
Okay.
Yeah, it is, eh?
What about you?
I'm Caitlin.
I am 28 for a few more days.
With a C or with an I? With a K and no I. Okay.
The phonetically correct way to spell my name.
K-A-T. Excuse you.
Okay.
With an E or L-Y-N? E-L-Y-N. Okay.
Get it right, Myron.
Okay.
How old are you?
28.
Where are you from?
A separate from Chicago.
Oh shit.
What suburb of Chicago?
Oswego.
It's real small.
What's it called?
Oswego.
Oswego.
As we go.
Yeah.
As we go home.
Did you guys come together?
No.
No?
Okay.
All right.
What do you do for work?
I work in tech.
Okay.
Are you guys friends?
Yes.
Okay.
Because you both are in tech.
BFFs.
Okay.
You guys, do you live here in Miami now or are you just visiting?
Boca.
Yeah, we live in Boca.
Boca as well.
Boca's far, man.
It's like 45 minutes.
Everyone acts like you're driving to South America.
I used to work there.
Yo, from Pines, Yamato Road is far.
I live off Yamato.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
It's not far.
Wait, you work in tech?
I work in tech.
The building, Yamato Road.
No, but the company's actually based out of Chicago.
It's not here.
Okay, okay, okay.
I used to work at AT&T. It's not that it's that far.
It's a pain to get up there.
That's why.
Because you got to take 95, then you got to switch to the turnpike.
It's like...
Not the turnpike.
That's west.
No.
Is Boca on 95?
Yeah, you can take Boca.
I take 95, yeah.
Well, 95 is even worse, bro.
But you know what's funny?
I didn't know about tolls several years ago.
So I'm driving up to Boca every day back and forth.
I'm like, okay, cool.
This is faster.
Going through a toll lane.
I get a letter in the mail.
I'll put out that bill.
500 bucks.
Mind you, I'm going to make a $7,000 an hour.
I've got to screw it over, but hey, it's what it is, man.
Oh, man.
Yeah, but yeah, 95 is the worst.
But anyway, especially since with the population explosion here in Florida.
Okay, so you said you're in tech.
Relationship status?
I filed a single this year.
Okay.
That's a funny way to say it.
Technically, you would file a single even if you have a girlfriend or boyfriend.
Yeah, I'm single.
So you are single, okay.
Literally and tax-wise, fantastic.
All right, parents still together?
No.
Divorced?
Divorced.
Okay.
Birth control?
Never.
Okay.
And then what's your...
Oh, background?
Like racial background?
Greek and Italian.
Okay.
Like, are your parents like both from there?
Like, are they first generation?
They're first generation, both of them.
So they both immigrated here?
Or no, no, no, no, no.
Their parents, your grandparents immigrated here?
Yes, my grandparents.
Okay.
All right.
Greek and Italian.
All right.
And they're back in Chicago, I'm guessing?
No, all here.
Oh, they moved?
My immediate family's all down here.
Okay.
All right.
They were together when we moved.
Okay.
Well, Illinois sucks.
Mine will do that for you.
What about you?
What's your name?
Hi, my name is Melissa.
Melissa?
Okay, how old are you?
I'm 28.
Where are you from?
I'm from Bolivia.
Bolivia?
Okay, it's different.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
So, I'm a full-time nanny and also I work as a server.
Okay.
Yeah, I just moved to Miami like a month ago.
Okay.
You nanny make money, bro.
They make money, bro.
You work for like, are you like an au pair?
No, I choose to be an au pair, but now I'm a full-time nanny because my au pair program ended.
Okay, alright.
And then, highest education level completed?
I have a bachelor degree in business administration and I have a postgraduate degree in education.
Okay.
Was this back in Bolivia?
Yes, all of that in Bolivia.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
Yes, kind of.
I mean, they got divorced and they got together again.
What about you?
Are you single in a relationship?
Right now I'm single.
Okay.
You left a guy in Bolivia?
No, not really.
I mean, I left Bolivia four years ago.
Four years ago, but you said...
Yes, I was living in Virginia the last four years.
I just moved here.
Okay, so were you a nanny in Virginia?
Yes, I was a nun in Virginia.
For like one family?
Yes.
Okay, let me guess, a rich family?
Oh yeah, they were super rich, like they were millionaires, and I just love to take care of the kids, and I just love that.
Did the kids get older?
Why'd you stop?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, when I started, I mean, I had, the mom was pregnant.
The baby was just two weeks old when I started working.
And so the baby, there was four.
And when I left, he was three years old.
And then my girls, they were four years old when I started.
Four and six.
And then when I left, they were eight.
It's been like a journey.
What?
And leaving them, it's been so hard.
Yeah, I was going to say, it was probably tough to leave, right?
Yeah, it was so hard to leave because they were my family here.
Do you still talk to them?
Yes, and then they are going to come to Tampa in March, and they invited me to go, so they got my tickets.
Oh, nice.
That's really nice.
Nice.
Yeah, that's the thing that kind of sucks when you're an au pair.
You raise the kids, basically, and then they go to school and stuff.
They don't really need you like that.
Yeah.
Alright, so you got a new family now, right?
Here in Florida, I'm guessing?
Yes.
Alright, I think we got all the intros.
That was quite a long intro.
That was a longer one.
Good job, ladies!
Especially you two!
Okay, so where are we at here?
So I'll read some of these chats, and then I got actually a question for the ladies.
Okay, we got JBS goes, ladies, and guys, from this point forward, we're going to read 50 and up.
The ones that came in before, I'll read them, but then we're going to read 50 and up from this point forward, because we already got 18,000 yelling here plus.
Okay, ladies, have you ever cheated before in a relationship?
If not, have you done anything that looking back on it was definitely inappropriate while you were in a relationship?
Okay.
You want to go around with that one?
Yeah, real quick.
Alright.
Ms.
Bolivia.
Yeah?
You ever cheated on your boyfriend?
Or done anything crazy that would have prompted?
No, I never cheated.
I've been cheated, but I never did it myself.
How'd you find out?
I mean, it was pretty obvious because he was going after my friends.
Spicy.
Like I said, I want two Bolivians, not one.
What about you?
No, never.
Never cheated?
Or anything that might be deemed as inappropriate?
It would give me too much anxiety.
Even going to like the nightclub or something like that.
No.
I can't do it.
So you're in tech.
What about iMessage?
What about iMessage?
Text messages?
No.
Okay.
Spyware?
No spyware.
Alright.
What about you?
Well, I've never been in a relationship, so I don't think I could possibly ever cheat.
Good answer.
Ever?
Ever.
No.
Never ever?
I would never cheat on anyone if I decided to commit to them, 100%.
What made you not want to commit at all right now?
To school?
Not school.
Is it your culture?
I would say it's my morals.
I just haven't found the right person, and so I don't want to give- Are you a virgin?
Yeah, but I don't want to talk about that.
Yeah, but anyways, no relationship.
You ain't a virgin, man.
That's fine, though.
I know you don't want your parents to hear you.
Haram!
She's saying he's a virgin because she's on air, but come on, man.
Well, if you are, you can charge a high price.
Hey, hey, I was just talking about my morals.
Let me explain.
Let me explain.
There's some investor that would pay millions of dollars for a virgin.
Millions.
Yeah, and I would never do that because I know one day I'm going to marry a dude and that's just, I think that's disrespectful to him and my future husband one day.
No, he's going to become your husband.
Oh, no.
Okay.
If you're paying to get with me, you're not going to be my husband.
No.
I like that.
No.
Tell him, sister.
F your money.
All right, what about you?
I have, yes.
I have cheated.
Come again?
On the CFO? Oh, no.
This was in high school.
Dr.
Cal.
Okay.
This was in high school.
What made you want to cheat on that guy?
He was black, huh?
He was black, and the other one was black.
He was mulatto.
I don't know.
I was young.
I just wanted...
Have fun?
Yeah, I wanted to have fun.
And the guy I cheated on with, you know, he wasn't really an athlete, and I really liked athletes.
At least you're honest.
I wanted the D1, the hottest guy.
You wanted the D? Yeah.
Oui.
Okay.
So I did cheat.
Got it.
Lovely.
What about you?
I've never cheated.
But I will say that there was a relationship when I was really young that now I understand where he meant because he was older than me.
Like I was like probably like 19, 20 and he was like 25.
And he I was so sheltered when I was younger that when I did go out with my friends and stuff, he'd be like, oh, but like, I don't want you to do this.
I don't want you to do that.
And I thought at the time, it was controlling or something.
But now looking back, it was super inappropriate.
I wasn't doing anything bad, but I wouldn't go out now if I was with someone.
Or if he said what he said, then he said what he said.
If you can tell me what to do, you can tell me what to do.
Yeah.
I regret doing it.
Interesting.
Oh yeah, no, for sure.
I just, I don't like hurting people.
Like, I'm really sensitive and, you know, I feel like if I was to hurt someone like that, then I could potentially be stopping someone's husband from finding their wife because now I scarred him and now he's not going to believe in love.
You know what I mean?
That's so beautiful.
That's so thoughtful.
I love love.
I told you guys.
I'm so sensitive.
I love love.
I love that.
Me too.
Took 30 years though.
Hey, you know.
We're going to move on.
Took 30 years.
What about you?
No, I've never cheated on anyone, but I remember my ex and I was on a break, and I think it was because he did something wrong, and then me and my ex-boyfriend before that, which they couldn't stand each other, kind of like got back together, but we were like- You were messing with the ops?
Come on, bruh.
Listen, no, wait.
My boyfriend at the time thought he was.
He was doing a lot, but then the other one was, too.
You can't make this shit up, man.
They didn't like each other.
That's the ops, though.
I'm from New York City.
Anything can happen.
Man!
But no, I didn't cheat, but I did.
Me and my ex-boyfriend hooked up, and oh my god, my other boyfriend was like crying.
So like anything that even if he did cheat on me, it would have been with somebody who didn't have any meaning.
So me and him hooking back up was like...
A death blow.
Yeah, but that was the last time that ever happened again, so I'm sure he learned his lesson.
Period.
And I'm not a cheater.
Oh, he took you back after that?
Of course he did.
I didn't do anything wrong.
He did something wrong.
We broke up.
And that's what happened.
Yeah, who was this nigga, man?
Actually, his name is Michael Hunter, my ex.
He's a three-time Olympian.
First and last name.
And he's a professional boxer right now.
And that's not the same one that I was with in Atlanta.
One was my first boyfriend, the other one was my second.
Wait, wasn't he a rapper?
No, that was the second one in Atlanta.
Oh, so your current guy that wants you back is Michael Hunter?
Atlanta.
No.
Don't say that as a name right now.
Someone that apparently worked with Guacca and Gucci.
That's what she said.
No, it was his friend.
He was a rapper first, right?
Yeah, but not the one now.
My first, remind you, I'm in the entertainment industry.
Yes, yes, yes.
So the first guy that I've dated at 16, 17, that was a boxer.
And now when I moved to Atlanta, and I didn't date anyone.
Y'all went to high school together or something?
No, I graduated high school at 16 because I had management in LA. Period.
And then when I moved there, that's when we had met.
Okay.
Alright, so she flexing her exes.
Got it.
Oh no, I asked her though.
Maybe that's why I don't care about that stuff.
Okay.
Lovely.
Interesting.
Alright.
What about you?
What about you?
Yeah, I did cheat on me.
No way!
You cheated?
You cheated?
You're so quiet!
Just like my mother.
Those are the ones that they would say are the bad ones, the quiet ones.
Maybe the worst, man.
Tell me.
I was with him for six years.
He got boring.
Life was bored.
He just, I just wanted to, I don't know, he had unhealthy habits and I just want...
To get away.
I just want to date somebody who has a good father figure for my future kids and he didn't have that.
And my current boyfriend has all of that.
So do you cheat on the ex with the new guy now?
Yes.
Oh wow!
But hold on.
Wouldn't it make sense to just leave?
Like just leave first and then do what you gotta do?
Well, I was going through a lot at the time, and my ex was helping me financially.
That's not fair, man.
That's messed up.
But he was getting really overweight, and he just had unhealthy habits, and I just don't find that attractive.
And if I have kids, I want my kids to look up to their father, and I just don't agree with unhealthy.
Did you tell him, babe, you're getting out of shape?
I did.
And what did he say?
He was no longer the man that you were with in the first place.
Exactly.
So my ex is all of what I want now for a father.
Why do you get fat?
Because I think his parents...
I think it just also has to do with who you're...
His parents are pretty overweight.
I don't know.
It's just like...
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I wish I could tell you.
I have a question for you.
Do you feel like the person that you're with now is at some point maybe not going to fully commit or feel some type of way because you cheated on someone with him?
Do you think that sits on the back of his head?
- Because he's everything I want. - That's not what I asked you to, baby.
I'm talking about him.
I talk about him.
Do you think in the back of his head, he's like, well, if she cheated on the other dude, is she gonna cheat on me if I slack or if I, you know what I mean?
- Yeah.
- Like, I'm just asking.
- What if he got fat?
- Yeah, like, what if he got fat?
Bye!
I think if he would have second-guessed it, he would have second-guessed it in the beginning.
He made his choice.
He probably didn't care.
Did he know, though?
You told him, oh, I have a boyfriend?
Wait, I'm...
Hold on, okay.
Respond to her.
She's saying, what if your current boyfriend said, you know what?
You cheated on me with your other...
Sorry, you know, with me with your ex, so obviously it might happen to me as well.
What's your response to that?
That's a hard one.
I don't know.
I didn't want kids with my last ex.
It was really obvious.
It's really bad, but my last ex, he really wanted kids with me, and I was like, yeah, I don't think I'll have kids with you, but my current ex, I'm willing to have kids tomorrow.
I don't know.
It's just like, I'm willing to marry him tomorrow.
I don't know.
To be fair, your current boyfriend fits all your boxes.
So you would look at him as like your prize, I would say.
But your ex-boyfriend was kind of like just a placeholder.
Exactly.
I was going through a lot at home, like family issues, and he was just helping me out.
It was a hard time.
Fellas, you heard it here first, man.
Don't get fat, man.
Don't lose frame.
My current boyfriend, no, he's everything I wanted.
Does your current boyfriend want kids with you?
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's, like, building, so I just want him to build, and I think it'll be better once he's, like, in another year, hopefully.
Yeah, don't tell him that you did that, though.
I think as women, though, we have to be more open to getting criticized as well, because this kind of goes back to, like, earlier when I was saying, like, for a woman, it's cool, but not for a man.
Well, because, like...
I'm just being real, right?
Like, God forbid a man told you I'm leaving you because you're fat.
He's gonna get destroyed.
Like, by society, by everybody.
Like, no, you have to be there for that woman.
She had your kids, blah, blah.
How come it's fair for us to say something like that?
And I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong, because I agree.
I think that, like, you should be healthy and you should want a certain lifestyle, but...
You said you do motivational speaking and, like, life coaching.
Do you coach mostly women?
No, both.
Both?
It's 50-50?
No, I would say I have more men on my platform.
It's more men?
Okay.
Because I talk about things a lot of girls don't want to hear.
Okay.
I was going to say, it's criticism.
Do you get a lot of headaches when you give women criticism?
I do.
I do because they argue a lot with what I'm saying about, you know, the submissive thing for sure.
We actually had a conversation about this earlier when I was saying as a submissive, you get whatever you want.
When you do what you do and you treat, you know, him as like the person, as the leader, it's just you get everything without having to ask for it, honestly.
Like when I'm with someone, I never ask for anything and it just happens because I act appropriately.
So what's the biggest thing that they give you pushback on?
Is it being submissive whenever you talk to women?
It's being submissive, and it's also about the choices.
They don't like being told what to do, but for me, it's like, if I chose you to lead me, I believe that you're going to lead me to the right place and not into an abyss.
For example, even my little brother, if he tells me he feels uncomfortable, he doesn't want me to go somewhere because he has a bad feeling or whatever, I listen to him.
He's 19, and he's been telling me that since he was 14 or whatever.
Okay.
That's the biggest thing, though, is that women don't want to be told what to do, or they're like, oh, I want to go out with my friends.
And it's like, if you're committed and you're going out with five single girls, you know you're going to get hit on all night.
There's going to be nothing but men around you.
Like, you should be able to stay home and sit down.
Question.
Miss a few.
What if a little bro told you, don't be celibate no more?
What would you do?
If my little brother told me that, I'd ask him why that was, like, what was his motivation behind it?
He had a vision.
He said, somebody just told him, listen, sis, let it loose.
I'd bring him to the hospital because I felt like he would never talk to me like that.
I'd be like, are you okay?
You have a fever.
I don't believe that my brother would say something like that to me.
Now I do remember my brother telling me like, you have to go have fun and date and be free.
But no, not that one.
Anything else?
So it has to align.
Yeah, that's my line for sure.
It has to align with what you want to.
Yeah.
Got it.
Alright, what about you?
No.
You ever cheated?
No, never cheated.
Did you ever do anything bad at all with your ex?
No.
No?
Mm-mm.
You didn't nag him or anything or tell him, hey man, bring home the bacon.
Wait, what?
Like, bring home the money or something, I don't know.
No, no, I was good.
But no, I wouldn't, I just, I don't, I haven't had an opportunity to do cheating, yeah.
I just don't think about it.
I just don't do it.
That makes sense.
I've never cheated.
A little smirk in the background.
I'm super submissive when I have a man.
If we go out, it's with my man.
I'm going to hit my question here and then we'll read the rest of the chats after.
What was that, Moe?
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
So, ladies, do you think men should show vulnerability?
This is a three-part question.
Do you think men should show vulnerability to A, women, B, their girlfriend, and then C, their wife?
So, yes or no, and then why?
So, we'll start here.
Don't worry.
I'm going to repeat it every time.
Thank you.
Do you think men should show vulnerability to women, to their girlfriend, or to their wife?
Three-part question.
Yes or no, and then why?
Aka emotions.
Yeah.
Show vulnerability and be emotional.
We'll start here.
We'll start here, yeah.
I would probably say no to women, but yes to girlfriend and wife, just because I don't like my man to be accessible to other women, and I think when they start showing emotions and stuff like that, it gives women ideas like, oh, I can move in there or something.
It gives women motive, I guess, I don't know.
Motive for what?
To try and get with them.
An overly friendly man or someone who's going to open up to another woman is giving them an opportunity to Okay, so you said you think yes to you as the girlfriend and yes to the wife.
Yeah.
Why?
Because once you're committed with them, then I think they should show you their emotions and who they are.
And like she said, their darkness.
And I don't think that's something that everybody should get.
I think it's something that your partner should get.
Interesting.
What about you?
Do you think men should show vulnerability and emotion to women, their girlfriend, and their wife?
Or their wife.
I think they should just...
To women?
Yeah.
To everyone.
Just be yourself.
To everyone?
Okay.
Yeah.
I think that if you're...
Oh, sorry.
Thank you.
If you're always your most authentic self, I think that will...
Just like attract what you need to attract.
But yeah, I don't think it's wrong with, I don't think there's anything wrong with being vulnerable as a man.
Or just like being, I don't know, just being emotional.
I don't think so.
Okay.
I hope that, yeah.
No, that's fine.
What about you?
I'm sorry, I'm confused.
Do you think men should be open and show vulnerability to women?
For example, being emotional, crying, that type of thing.
Definitely not.
No?
Okay.
What about to their girlfriend?
No.
No?
Okay.
I think women are attracted to men who know what they want.
So you say no on all fronts, okay.
Definitely, yeah.
Okay, so keep that shit to yourself.
Yeah, there's nothing more attractive than a man who already has his life.
Figure it out.
Figure it out, exactly, yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
What about you?
All right.
I think that this is kind of weird because let's not forget that men are human beings.
So you don't want to say, don't show this, don't do that, because that's how we have all these issues, even with cheating and this and that.
Because it's like, if you say, oh, I don't want to hear this side of you.
I don't want to see this.
And it's like, well, this is who I am.
Just like you're man or woman, all human beings have the same emotions.
I kind of agree with you here.
I feel like...
Merch.
You don't want to tell everyone your feelings, but I think being your authentic self will be able to put you in a category to where you can say, okay, this is a person I can open up to.
This is a person that I can't.
I do believe that your wife and your girlfriend, wife first, but girlfriend is where you want to be the most open to.
So to women in general, is it a yes or no?
I think that men should respect all women just because you were raised by a woman, even if it wasn't your mom, your auntie, your grandma.
I think that all men should have respect for women, but vulnerability is different.
So I don't think all men have to be vulnerable to every woman, but I think at least respect and acknowledgement for you being a woman, I think yes.
But just because you're giving a woman respect doesn't mean you have to tell them your deepest, darkest secrets.
Okay.
And then you said for a girlfriend and wife, yes.
Absolutely.
They have to know who you're dealing with.
You don't want to have to...
If you're a man and you have to hide your deepest, darkest selves from the person you're with, you're probably going to cheat, hands down.
You're going to.
Because it's going to be somebody you don't have to hide that with.
The reason why he says for infidelity reasons.
No, no, no.
Just because in general, we're human beings.
I want to get to know who you are.
Technology and all this stuff has made us this and that.
And we're female or bi or straight.
We're human, just like animals.
So everyone needs comfort and love.
So you think a man opening up to his girl and being vulnerable is for the betterment of the relationship?
Absolutely.
I do.
That's funny.
What about you?
What do you think?
Should men open up and be vulnerable to women, their girlfriend or their wife?
So I agree with the respect thing, for sure.
I think it's beautiful and it's very attractive when a man can respect all women, even if it's something where he's telling her, no, I don't want you, I just want this.
So I agree with that.
I don't agree with showing vulnerability to all women because there's really women out there that have no good intention with men.
But I will say that girlfriend-wise, I also don't believe unless you know that's your wife.
So girlfriend knows well.
Girlfriend, no.
Yeah, no.
Until you believe that she's really your wife, like, you're going to propose.
I think that there should be an openness, but not a vulnerability.
And the reason why is because a lot of times...
With a girlfriend or for the wife specifically?
With a girlfriend.
Okay.
Yeah, with a girlfriend.
Because what happens in that relationship is if you don't really know if that's your person, that could be used against you.
And I have...
I have friends that have told me, that have been like, I said this to this woman, and I was open, honest, I cried, I did whatever, and as soon as she could, she jabbed them with it, you know?
So, and now that, yeah, and exactly, now they feel like all women are the same, and, you know, I believe that if she's your wife, and you chose her, it's like I said earlier, you attracted that, you believe that she's really gonna hold you down regardless of anything, so...
So you think for the wife, yes?
For the wife, yes.
But wouldn't it be fair to say that as the wife, the stakes are higher and she could use it against you and really fuck you up if she's your wife?
Absolutely.
It's toxic?
Yeah.
Hold on, so you don't do that?
No.
See, so that's why another reason why I'm...
You said it earlier.
You said, oh, I'm in control.
My man wants me back.
He's begging on his knees for me back.
No, no, no, no.
That's why you have to be careful.
This is three years of me being an A1 hold it down and you kind of just being like...
I want things my way.
Just my way.
Not thinking about...
And then I am.
So we're both Puerto Rican.
So we are taught to be submissive, but for the right person.
So I don't mind being submissive.
But now when everything is your way and you don't care about me because I'm also a princess and do princess treatment.
So where's the fine line between that?
So...
There you go.
We both are the prize.
If we both believe we're the prize, I can move forward with you.
If I think I'm too much, then I'm probably not going to be able to be with the man that I like because the kind of men that I like, they are also, they hold their own.
So, I don't know.
But the one thing that, like, I don't know because I know there's, obviously, it's deeper and you guys definitely went through some stuff, right?
But It doesn't make sense to say you're submissive, but then at the same time, it's like, the things that you had mentioned earlier about the control, I think he's just protecting you.
Like, I know that sounds crazy, but for you to still be around.
Now when you say that I'm living the matrix and I can have whatever woman I want because I have money, and no, because that doesn't mean...
But you're also not leaving, though.
You, you're saying that you...
Girl, I'm going...
Come on!
You said you've been celibate for seven months.
I've been celibate for a year and two months.
No, but mommy...
From him.
I know, but what I'm saying is...
I haven't had sex with anybody else.
I haven't had...
So do you see I haven't had sex?
I didn't go back to him, but I also didn't run to another relationship.
No, but that's not what I said, baby.
What I'm saying is that you said that you don't know if you would go back to him, but everything that you're saying makes it seem like that's not the guy for you.
No, no.
All right, so...
No, but at the end of the day, we all grow.
So we're at the point where if he wanted to change...
Then you say yes.
Of course, because we love each other, but if he's not the type, even God can't force nobody to do what they want to do.
So if I want him to be like, yes, he's a good person, but he has to live by rules that he feels are above him right now because of his financial status, and that's where we are.
So fair to say that you're waiting.
Who?
Girl, no.
I don't wait on you.
When he asked me to come back, I said no.
So I don't think I'm waiting on anything.
But do I still love him?
Am I giving him, like, if he decides to change and we're on different spaces of life, we don't talk anymore.
So it's not like we talk and we were to have a conversation and he was to say, like, we talked in October and he said, like, hey, like, I, you know, I love you and I realized that maybe after 35 men mature more and I said, I love that you're coming to this realization.
But to me, that doesn't mean anything because the man that I want will be already there.
You would probably be raised by a woman, a sister, an aunt that makes you be able to recognize.
For me, I don't like that he can't recognize me.
Like, I don't like that.
If it takes 10 years for you to recognize, no.
But it doesn't mean he's a bad person.
It doesn't mean that I hate him.
Am I waiting on him?
Absolutely not.
But if something, if God brought us back together, do I believe that he can get there?
Yes.
That's why I was dealing with him.
But right now...
Money is a bitch, so that's only a good thing I can say.
I am...
What?
I asked so many questions, but...
Nah, I mean, go ahead.
So, let me ask you this.
His approach, him telling you I'm a high-value man, I can get bitches.
Literally.
No, literally.
Kevin Samuels, high-value man.
What if his approach was different?
Like, you know what?
He didn't say it, he just did it.
Would that change anything?
For example, so you know what, babe?
We got this.
We're going through this together, but I'm going to lead the castle.
Follow my lead.
I got you.
Don't stress.
Don't stress.
You know what?
She said that it seems like I'm waiting.
I think it's because of our honesty.
No.
I like that he was very honest because then I knew where to put you.
So then you could leave.
No.
So see?
Yeah.
So we were...
No, really.
So we were like...
That's what niggas like.
But every person has the entitlement to say...
If he's a man and he says, I have money so I believe I can do this, that's your choice.
But do I want to deal with that?
No.
So we weren't arch enemies, but it was like...
That's not for me.
And what you want, I think you deserve to get what you want.
I know a lot of men who...
Let's just boil this down.
He had other women and you didn't like that.
That's what it comes down to.
No, he didn't have any other women.
How do you know?
His whole thing was...
I think we broke up and he started dating a flight attendant and he told her, I love somebody else and...
He kind of kicked her to the curb.
But I honestly think it was because...
And I think that's what bothered me.
I think it was because I didn't give him what he wanted.
I knew that's why he wanted me more.
And that didn't...
I want a man who like...
No, but I'm saying it seems to me as though you don't like the fact that he...
Whether he acted on it or not, but he could have other girls.
You don't like that.
Um, I didn't know.
I didn't like the fact that he might have thought that that could have been like something that could have determined whether he had other girls or not.
Does that make sense?
No.
Yeah, I don't like to say, oh, because I have money, but then you don't want to leave.
You have all these other girls and you don't want me to go anywhere.
That means you're like indecisive.
Like she said, I like a man who knows what they want.
That means you're still confused.
No, no, no.
He wants both.
Yeah.
He wants both.
She said who?
Well, that's a no-go for me, even if that was the case.
You can't have both.
It's either me or the highway.
Yeah, it's me or me.
And then he didn't even, like, put anybody.
It's not like he was dating anyone.
It was just, like, more of a control thing.
Like, him himself, if I'm being 100% honest, didn't like how vulnerable.
Like, his dad used to abuse him, so I don't think he was ever vulnerable with a woman.
So I broke that down.
See, you're just telling us his shit, too.
I know, right?
That's a weapon.
No.
He told you that confidently.
No, I mean, we're being honest because just how she had a conversation, we're being honest.
You're being honest.
She's not here.
This is like 20K people here?
Yeah, but I didn't say his name or anything like that.
So nobody knows who he is but me and my family.
No, they're going to find out right now.
I guarantee you they're going to find out.
The chat is going to find out.
Rumble, YouTube, they're going to find out.
Podcast.
No, and let's not get this twisted.
Just because I'm saying his situation, I'm saying that because I'm being honest.
I think that's what we don't do.
Yes, if a parent was abusive, he has issues in his relationship.
I'm not telling his business.
I'm being honest.
I'm not saying anything about him.
I'm just saying, yes, that made it hard for him to be able to love me.
If both his parents were abusive, and that was something I could not take responsibility of.
As much as I love you, as much as I understand you, I cannot...
I can't fix it.
I can't bring myself, again, down because you have...
So I love you, but if you don't want to change and you are having a hard time changing...
But he's in therapy now, and I think that I've made him...
No, I think...
Yes, because before he thought because he had money, he didn't need therapy, and I had to explain to him...
That has nothing to do with that.
So now he's become, I think, the best man that he could have become, whether it's with me or not.
And I wish him the best.
Whether I'm the girl that's for him or not.
When you really love somebody, that's what you care about.
It's him being his highest self and being whoever's for him.
And I think that was real love.
So people could say whatever they want.
Using the chest that you gave him PTSD. I didn't give him no PTSD. I gave him healing.
Okay.
Alright, what about you, Miss West Palm Beach?
Should men be vulnerable to women, to their girlfriend, and to their wife?
Yes or no, and why?
I think all.
All?
Okay, why?
From experience.
For me, it's a turn-on if you're vulnerable to me.
Really?
Because I feel like I want to see...
I'm sure there's guys vulnerable to you in your OFDMs, right?
Oh, yeah.
Why don't you fuck them, then?
Oh, I guess it wasn't that much I'll turn on.
No comment.
But, yeah, so I think it's for all.
You know, I just think I like it.
It's my thing.
I like it.
Okay.
Cry to me.
Please talk to me.
I'll get on my knees for you.
Does that turn you on, though?
Huh?
Does that turn you on, though?
I'm crying in front of you.
I'm on my knees.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it depends on what it is.
The white man!
Just kidding.
Hey, I like white men.
I'm sorry.
That's fine.
Interesting.
Okay.
What about you?
I would say, personally, not to all women.
Only because I think that...
So to who?
Definitely to girlfriends and wives.
Only because I think that knowing vulnerabilities will allow for a deeper connection.
And if I know your vulnerability, we can work on it together and kind of build off of it.
All right.
Okay, interesting.
What about you?
I think no to all women, definitely to girlfriend and wife.
I feel like as a man, if you're uncomfortable with vulnerability, it says a lot about your masculinity.
How so?
Because I don't think you're comfortable in your masculinity if you can't be vulnerable.
Yeah.
Interesting.
True.
Thanks.
Isn't a component of masculinity the ability to control your emotions though?
Isn't that one of the biggest distinguishing differences between men and women?
Definitely, but I feel like it's more geared toward anger.
You should be able to control your anger, but why are we controlling if I feel sad?
Because it can cause you to be angry now.
I thought masculine and feminine was if you have a penis or a vagina.
I didn't know that had anything to do with who you are as a human.
No, it's an energy.
Those are things that we put on ourselves and I think that's the problem now.
That's why no one is happy now.
No, I think the problem is that people don't accept that there is roles.
I think that's the problem.
Like, it's true.
There is a masculine and there is a feminine.
Now, you as a feminine can be tapped in.
Yeah, but you can't tell somebody because you're masculine, you can't cry.
No, but here's the thing.
That's what I'm talking about.
It's not about the crying for masculine.
It's not about that, guys.
It's not about that.
It's about the fact that if you're telling a man to be fully vulnerable, right, you don't know what that sadness can bring out of him, right?
So if he doesn't know how to control that, you will care if he's putting his hands on you because he went from being sad to having rage.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, but no, it's a difference from being sad and abusing somebody.
You are a human being, and you're smart, and you know the difference.
If you don't know the difference, then we can't even talk.
But you just said that the guy that you're with doesn't know the difference because he has issues with being vulnerable because he's been abused.
So that's what I'm trying to say is that when you're...
No, that's human.
That's what you said.
Wait.
That's what you said.
No.
So see, what you're saying is just how you said vulnerability means if he gets angry and hits you.
No.
Vulnerability and abuse is It's two different things.
Abuse is an issue that you have, and you probably need to be in jail.
Vulnerability is a human emotion.
Now, toxicity is when you think one is the other.
And to be honest, there's a lot of households who think vulnerability means being toxic and abusive, and that's the issue.
Or weak.
You're a sucker.
You're not supposed to cry.
What we're saying is that it can lead to something more if he doesn't have control.
That's how the whole conversation started.
But that doesn't mean therapy.
That doesn't mean that you need to be vulnerable with your girlfriend.
No, what we were saying is that a masculine needs to control his emotions in order to be vulnerable.
Because if not, there's just no way that if a man has been through shit and he hasn't actually dealt with it, and you want to push it out of him, you're going to see some shit you don't want to see.
No, but I'm not pushing it.
I think the right woman...
We are, as women, we do.
Baby, talk to me.
What's wrong?
Because he's quiet for three hours.
He don't want to talk to you right now.
Because he was probably taught as a child.
No, men.
Listen, me...
No, me raising...
That's not true.
That's not true.
No bullshit.
It's not true.
Can we ding something real quick?
Because, listen, I'm going to tell you right now, me raising my little brother, I can tell...
I'm so serious.
Me raising my little brother and having him at 13 years old already showing signs of what a grown man does.
Nothing came to him.
Nothing.
It's just how they wired.
They're not always talkative.
They need their space.
They don't always want you in their fucking face.
And if you are going to be in their face, why are you nagging about why he's been quiet?
Rub that man's feet while he's quiet.
Sit on his lap while he plays his game.
A lot of girls complain about shit.
Men cheat on women who do that shit all the time.
So that's not it.
No.
That's not it.
Yes, they do.
And my mom is Puerto Rican, and my mom did everything for my father.
My dad was black.
And yes, because in Puerto Rican households, we think that that's the issue.
You do this, you do that, and the man is going to...
No, absolutely not.
They still will cheat.
I think that being open, human...
Human to human.
This is what I've been through and this hurt me.
Baby, I understand that.
I'm sorry that that hurt you.
Now we're in our relationship.
Forget what your parents did to you.
Now we can build something new.
I think that's vulnerability.
I think that's abuse.
But we all come out as children vulnerable.
Do we not?
We cry.
You know what I mean?
Even my son, little boy.
Period.
He cries.
He shows up.
Which is the point that we're taught that you cannot express these things.
Hold on, hold on.
Who else is the mom at the table?
Just out of curiosity.
Only one?
Only one girl's a mom here?
Okay.
But here's the thing, and I only am going to say this, baby, because you said it earlier and you felt comfortable, so I don't want you to feel that I'm calling you out.
But that's a perfect example earlier when she was saying that she was with somebody because she was going through shit in her life.
So this is the same difference.
It's like, why would a man be vulnerable without knowing that you're really going to be his wife when you could potentially be vulnerable?
Excuse me.
Using him.
You feel me?
But how do you get to being vulnerable with a girlfriend and getting a wife?
Because you don't get from one stage to another just like that.
You have to be vulnerable with a girlfriend that you trust enough.
Yeah, but not to provide for a woman that doesn't want him other than just to be provided for.
But that sounds like it's the other person's problem if they're using your vulnerability against you.
Yeah.
I believe so, too.
I feel like...
I used to ignore vulnerable...
Part of a man, and I used to just ignore it, and it haunted me.
If you keep ignoring a man, it haunts you.
I'm 32 years old.
It haunts you.
It does.
I don't care what anybody...
I don't feel like anyone should be ignored, man or woman, you're still human.
If I feel like you're upset, I'm sorry.
I'm not going to ignore you or anybody.
Well, that's the way you're not married, so...
Is that different from being...
Erin, are you married?
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
That was a very good conversation.
Okay, so you're saying no to vulnerability to random girls, or women in general, but you're saying girlfriend and wife, right?
Okay, for you.
Yeah, I'm interested to see what you're saying.
And then what about you?
What do you think?
Because you're not from America.
Okay, so I think Bolivia.
What I think is that men should do whatever they want to do.
I mean, if you want to show up with a little bit, it's okay if you don't want to do it.
But personally...
Wait, hold on.
We can't understand.
Say that again?
You said the man should do whatever he wants and then what?
Yeah, if they want to show their emotions, they should do it.
If they don't want to do it...
But in general, should they?
Should they be vulnerable and be emotional with their...
I cannot talk in general, but for me, what I'm looking for in a man is don't show your emotions.
Don't show.
Yes.
Be a man, machismo.
Yes.
Si!
You mentioned, real quick, just out of curiosity, because you had mentioned, you said your father cheated on your mom?
Yeah.
But they're still together 35 years later?
Mm-hmm.
Well, that says something.
You want to know why?
Because my dad and my mom were 17 and 19 when they went together.
So that's also how I know that when you're in a real relationship, you go through it.
It doesn't even matter if you're in a perfect with you, with the love of your life, you go through it.
Whatever it might be, you guys are going to have to chip down the things that you went through with your parents.
What does your father do?
Well, my father has a business degree and then he's in the medical field because my mom got it.
Is he a doctor?
Does he sell pharmaceuticals?
No, he handles all the surgery equipment.
Okay.
My mom is a director.
My dad just wanted to be around my mom.
Yeah, even though he cheated.
He follows her everywhere.
Okay.
No, it's just interesting that, like, you know, your father cheated on your mom, but they still made it work.
But you don't want to make it work with this guy because he had other women.
No, but it was never...
No, so see, that's the thing.
It was never cheating.
Women never was in the mix.
As much as he might have said something and I disagree with it, it was more of his mentality.
That he could get other women.
You didn't like that?
No, to be honest, I didn't even want a man to talk like that.
If you're not a man who knows the difference between a slut and a real woman, that's an issue for me.
That's an issue for me.
I didn't like that he threw it in your face.
No, I didn't like that he didn't know the difference yet.
I will admit, him telling you in that way is kind of too much of a, hey, look at me, this is what I am, versus just taking action, I think it would be better than to sing it to your face.
I didn't share it, so he was urban, he grew up, he was born in Mexico.
No, no, no, so he was born in Mexico.
He was born in Mexico, but grew up in Atlanta.
So I think the language barrier, the race barrier was there.
And his thing, the way he's...
Spanish is his first language.
He'll say something in English just how he would be meant to say it.
Like, he would just say it.
And it would be like, well, you're not sugarcoating it.
And he didn't know how to sugarcoat it.
So it would just be like, yeah.
This is what it is!
Yo, she's doctoring this nigga like her.
To be honest, I don't care because he made me go on Kevin Samuels.
And I did it.
And whatever I talked about was very vulnerable on Kevin Samuels.
Yes, I was.
On the 305 Girls or something like that.
And he made me.
We had a bet.
And he told me because that's how we were going.
Okay, got it.
Wait, did he school you?
Yeah, he did.
Who, him?
Kevin?
No, no, no.
Actually, we got cut off because he tried to and it wasn't working because what he was basically telling me is like, because y'all not married together.
And the thing is that, no, it's not 1970 no more.
That's not how relationships are.
I remember now.
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So we got most of the girls here at the table, only two girls.
Think that men should control their emotions.
The rest of the girls pretty much think you should be open with your girlfriend or wife, at least, as far as showing vulnerability.
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We good?
No.
Almost.
Thank you.
But yeah, we got a video to play.
Oh, yeah.
So, the video we're going to play, guys, it's actually going viral right now.
A bunch of you guys have sent me this video.
It's from Shaquille O'Neal, as you guys know.
I said W. NBA player.
No, W. No, W. Obviously, Hall of Famer.
Gonna go down in the history books.
It's probably one of the most dominant centers of all times.
Arguable in the top five.
But yeah, he's made some comments recently that it's kind of funny.
It's going viral all over the place because the rest of the world is blue-pilled as fuck.
But you guys are gonna see here.
And we're gonna get the Lady Six on it.
So let's play the clip real fast.
And where do you say this, Mo?
Did he say this on a podcast?
Yes.
Actually, if I remember correctly, that was your talking point.
We'll see you here in a second, man.
These niggas be watching us.
I'm telling y'all, man.
Literally.
Alright, let's go ahead.
What is this from?
Big Podcast?
Never heard of it.
Alright, let's run the clip here.
You open up to a woman?
Yeah.
Never.
No.
Never.
When's the last time you think you've opened up to a woman?
We don't.
Your whole life?
Bro, I'm telling you.
Man, got players like, I can, me and him related.
Yeah.
It's our first time meeting, but I did.
Yeah, I can tell you guys, there's some connection here.
Oh, no.
They're going to tell you you can't.
Because you know why?
But it's a trap.
Because you know why?
I'm trapped, like a motherfucker.
No, I'm going to tell you why.
Because once you do, whenever something go down, they're going to throw it back in your face.
That's why.
That's why.
So you can't ever.
That's why you cry because your dad left.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, that's true.
I never threw anything personal or hurtful back in anybody.
Me either.
I think that's the character.
Don't worry.
I will come back so you guys can each give your take on that.
We'll start here with Ms.
Bolivia since she ended last.
What are your thoughts on that?
Is he right?
Is he wrong?
Well, I don't think he's right or wrong.
It's just some women will do that but know everybody.
In your opinion.
Okay, I wouldn't do that.
I would never do that.
I'm very traditional.
But they're not opening up to you, so you wouldn't have to worry about that.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm very traditional.
Many in my family, they are like, you know, controlling them.
And I don't want you guys to, you know, share my opinion.
I just want to respect it.
I understand not everybody thinks like me.
She's being nice.
We love what you're saying.
I love it.
Thank you.
I'm very chill.
I'm very nice.
I never get trouble.
Wait, hold on.
You're very traditional?
Your IG is not.
That's all I gotta say, bro.
Exposed!
Your IG is crazy, bro.
Really?
Yeah, bro.
It's crazy, man.
What should we put on there, huh?
Yeah, it's crazy, bro.
She low-key, bro.
She low-key.
Damn.
What's on there, Chris?
No, there's nothing there.
Oh!
Oh!
Weba!
Oh!
What?
She came in with a t-shirt.
She's not traditional.
They don't even traditionally do anything.
She in the snow?
She in the water?
She in a bus?
She in a bus?
That's hilarious!
I just award for a very rich family, so everything is my cost family.
Girl, you don't have to explain.
Men are not explaining themselves about being whores, so you don't have to explain anything.
Tell them you post what you want to post.
Coconuts too?
Oh hell no!
She in Barbados?
I don't want that, bro.
She in Barbados, bro?
Okay, thank you for that.
Stop it!
I got you.
Stop it now!
We got your point.
Was Shaq correct in his opinion?
What do you think?
I don't think so, no.
Because if you're throwing it back in your man's face, you're probably doing it to your girlfriend's faces too, so something's wrong with you.
But let's be honest here.
When we get emotional, they get upset, they may love you, but you know what?
You're pissing me off today, buddy.
I'm going to tell you what it is.
And they throw it in your face.
It may not be warranted, or it may not be what you want to do, but things happen, you get upset.
I mean, yeah, but does that mean you just don't open up to anyone ever because you're scared that it's going to be thrown back in your face?
But again, why would I open up if it's going to be a possibility that could happen to me as a man?
Isn't it the same vice versa though with a girl?
Yeah.
I mean, it could happen, but let's be honest here.
Most men that open up to their woman is seen as like a taboo because this happens all the time.
So...
So you disagree with Shaq's take then?
Yeah.
Okay, I disagree.
What about you?
I would say I do disagree in a sense.
Why?
Only because I feel like...
Actually, I take that back.
I do kind of agree because you made a good point that in the heat of an argument, there's always a possibility if a woman just speaks her mind very irrationally maybe.
Yeah.
That she says something that she probably regrets.
So there is a chance.
But when I think about it, that's what a relationship is.
It's going to happen.
So it's, yeah.
It doesn't mean that a man shouldn't open up, though, in a sense.
Because it's just a relationship and it's, I don't know.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That's my take.
Alright, what do you think?
Agree?
Disagree?
I agree.
I agree.
So that contradicts...
Okay.
I know.
I know.
But I've done it before, so I'm like...
Oh, shit.
You know.
It's the heat of the moment.
If that happens, it does happen, but I mean...
Alright.
Well, being honest at least.
What about you?
Do you agree or disagree?
I agree when he says women, but I still stand by what I said about wife.
And then when it comes to the girlfriend, like I said, I said no until he really knows that that's going to be his wife.
And I still believe that real vulnerability should come once you make that full commitment.
And then also to kind of go back to what I was saying earlier, this is why...
Vulnerability in a man who's not healed can turn into something bad because you guys all were like, well, I mean, he could throw it back in my face.
That's a man who's unhealed and who's being vulnerable, who's being, like, sad or upset or whatever, and then jabbing you.
So that's what I'm telling you.
Like, you can't want something from a man and not really know him and know what he's gone through, and then something bad could happen.
It could get sticky.
So I agree with Shaq.
Okay, so you think it should be reserved for only your wife to open up?
Yeah, and I think at that point you have to really know.
Like, for example, if you're going to marry someone but you do have, like, an open relationship or something where, like, he's successful and he wants multiple women, I don't think he should be vulnerable with any of them because he might have more than one wife.
He might have whatever.
It could get messy.
Like, now one feels like she's more important than the other because he pillow-talks her and not the other one.
So at that point, you just got to stay ten toes and not tell nobody shit.
But if you're going to really be serious with one person and put in the time and everything, like...
Actual dedication because to be honest even me as a woman I'm not vulnerable unless I know that's gonna be my husband you know what I mean and like I haven't gotten there yet other than what I said about the dude earlier where I felt like that could be somebody that I could really be with committed so would you would you say that in a marriage a woman values security probably at the highest level because now you're married to that person Absolutely, as well as protection.
Okay.
So, if you value security and protection at an even higher level at marriage, wouldn't it be counterproductive for you to open up vulnerability-wise when you're the one that's tasked with protecting and securing her?
Because you're showing weakness.
But that woman depends on you to provide her security at an even higher level now because you guys are now married.
So, if someone is looking to you for security and strength at the highest level because now you guys are married, wouldn't it be counterproductive to open up and be vulnerable?
I don't believe so.
And the reason why is because if my husband did that for me, and it was something that I really needed him to do that for, I would actually see him as stronger.
Because that took a lot, you know?
That's a good point, but what if she thinks opposite?
Oh, no, my nigga's weak.
I don't like that.
That's not her husband.
It's my husband we talking about.
I wouldn't look at him like that.
But you have a good example, but she might not.
So I'm going to assume that if I open up to you, it could be either way.
But then I jeopardize my relationship because I don't know what's going to happen.
And then also, you got to look at, like, women overwhelmingly initiate divorces and breakups.
And on top of that, I could lose half my money, lose my alimony, lose my kids, have to pay child support, and I'm the one that's tasked with securing you.
So like, why would I put all of that up for risk and be vulnerable to you when you might not take it the right way?
Well, I think a lot of the women who initiate these divorces and things like that, in my personal opinion, it's kind of obvious from the beginning.
Like, yeah, she has good qualities and good traits, but there's things that she's asking for.
She wants that at some point, if you don't have it, she probably won't stick around.
But can you agree as well?
Women fall in love and they fall out of love.
So then they love you at the beginning, but let's say you get fat, you know, you tend to be not as productive as you used to be.
She falls out of love.
And women get bored in relationships way faster than men do.
So you might not really know at the beginning because she might love you all the way, but it might change.
I think if a woman falls out of love with you, she never loved you to begin with.
I think, to be 100% honest, because I think love is, real love is like forever.
Like, even if that person, it wasn't to work out.
So you think it's unconditional?
My love is unconditional.
You're single.
So, hold on, hold on.
But listen, you want to know why?
I got you.
Why, why?
You want to know why?
Hold on, hold on.
You're a man that you love.
What if it hits you?
Are you going to stay?
And say, oh, it's unconditional.
Here's the thing.
So...
Remember, you made a minute.
I know.
I know.
And here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
And this is like...
I hope I can say this online and it's not going to sound crazy because I don't...
Well, because I don't condone violence, right?
Don't say it.
I know what you want to say.
What do you mean?
No, I'm not going to justify it.
What I was going to say is, again, if I'm putting myself in a position where I'm with someone who might have some sort of issue or might have whatever, but I want to work through that, like, I'm not talking about full-blown abuse.
I'm not talking about, you know, getting, like, super hit or anything like that.
But...
If you're doing something crazy and you're putting your hands on him, if you're wilding out and he slams you real quick, why are you now going to be like, hey, oh my God, what do you do to me?
I'm going to sit my pretty ass down.
And I'm going to be like, I just did some shit to get this man out of character.
Let me give him some space.
You know?
That's why I said it's a sticky thing to say.
But I'm just being honest.
If I'm married and I have children, I'm not saying I'll put up with everything, but I don't think I would leave if he cheated.
I don't think I would leave right away.
You feel me?
Because I'm...
Where I'm at in life, I don't attract that kind of energy.
You know what I mean?
Like, men don't treat me that way.
Where's your last ex?
Where is he?
Yeah.
I mean, we stopped talking.
It was, like, right when my mom passed away, so I kind of wanted to leave that, like, in the back end of things, because it was too painful for me to continue to bring somebody who saw me go through so much after we broke up.
He was the one.
I don't know.
No, no, no.
He wasn't the one.
Not the recent ex.
I'm talking about the one from five years ago.
I consider him my actual ex.
See, I like what you're saying, but you didn't answer the question.
You know why?
Because ultimately...
Well, because I don't want to say that I'm condoning something, but yes, I would say.
I would say.
Because it's not about...
Like I said, I'm not talking full-blown abuse, but sometimes people get out of character and they do things that they regret.
And if I love this man and I'm serious and I brought him out of character, I got to sit with that and reflect on me.
Right.
You know?
Like I said, there's a limit.
You're moving it because you're saying if you get him out of character, what if you don't do anything?
Oh no, that's different.
He gets drunk.
He says, you know what?
I messed up in life.
I hate my life now.
I want to change.
He just changes randomly.
Are you going to say it?
Yeah, no, no.
Unconditional love still?
But that's what I'm saying.
I can unconditionally love.
If you're going to, like I said, that's abuse now because you're bringing alcohol into it.
You're bringing things that are like...
Unconditional then.
No, it is.
But that's not...
Come on.
That has to be like...
There's a limit.
Remember earlier we were talking about boundaries?
That's crazy.
Unconditional love is unconditional.
Exactly.
But do I have to stay to unconditionally love him?
Can I love him forever and not stay?
But you're leaving.
So there's a condition.
See, that's the whole point here.
Listen.
But leave it doesn't mean you don't love somebody.
No, you got it.
You got it.
You right then.
I guess I have a little condition.
Oh, that's our question.
What about you?
Do you agree with Shaq?
No.
You don't?
Why not?
So I know a little bit of Shaq's history in dating and he doesn't have a successful relationship.
I think me seeing my parents, literally, I'm not saying this or that.
I think me seeing two human beings meet at 17 and 19.
Create a family.
My parents were young, so I went through everything with them.
And I can say the reason why my parents are still together, the reason why both my grandparents were still together, is because of accepting each other's flaws and all.
Literally.
So you said Shaq, you disagree with Shaq because you said it's his own personal relationships?
No, what I'm saying is that...
It makes sense.
He hasn't had like a successful relationship and that makes sense.
I think if a man feels that way, one, that's fair.
So you can't, no one is right or wrong for not.
That means he's never had that kind of love before.
I believe so.
I believe that means that he hasn't met the one.
Because when you meet the one, they allow you to be yourself, human to human.
It doesn't even matter whether you're my boyfriend, my girlfriend, my wife, my husband.
Who are you?
And I want you to feel comfortable enough.
I think that's why they say we should be friends before anything.
And that's what I believe.
So I believe if you're married to somebody, how do you get past the best friend stage?
How do you get past the friend stage?
So if it's your friend or your best friend, you should be able to be vulnerable with them.
Not completely vulnerable to where you're telling them everything, but at least to where I can get to know you, you can get to know me.
What hurts you?
What triggers you?
Because that's how I can know what not to bring up, what not to say.
And if the person really loves you, they're not going to do that.
Because the first thing you said was Shaq doesn't have successful relationships before.
I don't think that he...
Yeah, I know about like a few of them that he...
Would it be that it wasn't successful?
Maybe he got rid of the girl or what was it?
Why was it not successful?
Well, Shaq cheated a lot.
Yeah, so no, I'm not saying that, but if you're cheating and then you don't want to be vulnerable with somebody, why are you in a relationship?
That means you're having someone fulfill your needs, which is okay if that's what you want as a man, but you can't get mad when you don't have a successful relationship like my ex if that's how you want to carry yourself because that doesn't bring a successful relationship.
I never judged him, my ex, or nothing, but I'm letting him know I know that that's not the way to a successful relationship.
And if you want me to submit, I have to trust you.
And if I know you're going on an unsuccessful path, why would I submit to you?
You're going to lead me to the abyss of hell and we're going to be there together.
And then, of course, you're going to lead me because you're going to lead me for a woman who has boundaries and standards.
Wait a minute.
You said earlier, your parents, right, are still together.
Now, back in their day, I mean, they're probably still young.
Wait, who were your parents?
50, 51, I don't know.
Well, let's say your mom stayed with your dad, right?
Why?
Because she understands duty, probably, right?
She understands that even though my husband cheated on me, it's about family.
No, so maybe this is why my mom came out of a very toxic house home.
And I'm a recording artist, number one, so I don't mind sharing things and I will never hurt anybody that I love.
But my mom came from an alcoholic family and I don't think she was taught.
So when she met my father, she was very unemotional to love.
She was unemotional to everything.
But she was sexually assaulted as a young kid, and she had five daughters, so she did not want to leave my dad.
And I believe that, God above all, I believe that that led her to not leaving him, but it ended up her being able to work with him.
Now, it could be any reason that you stay with a person.
Okay, let's look outside of your family.
There's grandparents and parents that are still together, and a guy cheated.
Why are they still there?
It's because they don't understand.
Dude is very important.
So I get it.
She had a really bad past and a lot of trauma, but she understands what it is to be with somebody long-term.
Nowadays, what happens?
You meet somebody, you get bored, they get fat.
Yeah, we don't stick things out anymore at all.
You know why?
There's an option.
You know what?
You don't do what I want, I'm going to leave.
But that art of staying for somebody for duty is gone.
But that's why we're all 30 and single.
Because when younger back in the days, it was like, no, it was standard.
So those standards to kind of want to be in a relationship, you have to be in a family that kind of kept you from just leaving because you can.
We leave now because you feel like you can.
But that's not true because...
But hold on, you mentioned earlier the one.
There is no one.
It's who you choose to be with.
Because by default, people change.
Yeah, but see, the one could be, I chose the one.
It doesn't mean like the one that's the only person.
I don't believe in that.
I believe in the one that you choose to be with.
My parents stuck together because they chose to stick together with each other.
They decided jointly that, you know what?
You're the one for me.
I'm the one for you.
And let's make it work.
I'm just saying it's a choice.
And if you want to leave somebody because they cheated, that's a choice you're making.
But in reality speaking, let's be honest here, men are going to do what they do regardless.
So you leave him because he cheated.
I mean, why?
See, that's why my mom is a goat.
I don't know.
She understood that, and I didn't understand that.
But I think my mom understood, okay, I have five daughters, and like I said, that's why her fear, her standards kept her from just going out and doing whatever because she wanted to, because there was more.
But even better, you're in the industry.
Gucci man, right?
You understand how things work.
They're from down south.
I'm from New York.
I don't know.
But hold on.
Successful guy.
I'm not saying he does anything, but let's be honest here.
He's in the industry.
Things are going to happen.
But she's staying there.
Why is she staying there?
She understands I made a choice.
He's the one for me.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a choice, is what I'm trying to say here.
I believe so, yes.
And whatever it is, everybody has a...
Everybody has a boundary.
My mom taught me that from younger.
So my mom explained this to me with my dad.
Her dad was an alcoholic and he was abusive.
So my mom taught me because of course she has four daughters so we want to know why you're staying around.
My mom said everybody has limits.
You have hard hearts and something to say absolutely not.
So she said what my father, what she wanted to do is she didn't want to be with someone who was abusive and she didn't want to be with an alcoholic.
So personally, that's something that she didn't mind.
Like the lady used to call my mom's house.
My mom used to be like, I have a house.
I have a car.
I don't care about that woman.
But that was my mom's view.
So, you know, would that work for me?
Maybe not.
But do I learn from my mom?
Absolutely.
Alright.
Okay.
What, Chris?
No, because she's...
I don't know.
I feel like I'm on MTV or some shit.
No, I get what she's saying, though.
Hopefully there's a change here.
Okay, what about you?
Do you disagree with Shaq's statement or no?
I'm so lost, so Shaq.
He said don't open up because you're going to throw it to your face.
Don't be vulnerable, women.
Don't do it.
Yeah, I agree with him.
I think women are very emotional and men are very logical.
And I respectfully disagree with you.
I mean, my dad...
That's okay.
I mean, my mom's been a stay-at-home mom for like over 20 years and I was raised with that.
And I think...
I don't know, my dad's busted his ass off, and I've never really seen my dad been vulnerable or emotional.
He's just, he gets it done for the family.
Like, that's it.
I just, I don't know.
And I love, I think my dad's definitely the prize, and my mom's just stuck around for the family, and that's that.
No offense, but would you disagree with me?
I haven't lived...
It's hard for me to relate to your life, but...
Yeah, it's hard for me to relate to you.
I don't know.
I'm just saying...
Oh, no, so it's hard for you to relate.
You don't disagree, but it's hard for you to relate.
That's too different.
Yeah, I'm just saying, like, based on shock, like, I don't know, like, based on my dad.
Like, I agree, like, my dad's definitely just...
She disagrees that men shouldn't open up.
Because you're saying men should open up.
I'm not used to a man opening up because my dad's just very logical.
He gets shit done.
My mom's very emotional.
My mom's extremely emotional, so I don't expect him to open up.
I also think to each his own.
We all from birth was born a whole bunch of different ways.
It's 17 years that no one can account for.
You can't tell two people to act the same.
But hold on.
You're using the excuse of your past trauma to determine your future actions.
Can we agree that it's your choice ultimately?
What do you mean, mine?
Because I didn't...
In general, because you always say, for example, he had trauma, you had trauma, your mom had trauma.
Yeah, but it's a choice you make.
You can overcome that and make a choice for yourself.
No, I already chose for myself.
I'm talking about my parents.
That has nothing to do with me.
Me, I decided to wait until I grew up.
I think us in America, we make everything about relationships and we don't really make things about learning ourselves.
I think that's why when people, when they said unconditional love, it's hard to say unconditional love because the person doesn't even know themselves.
So how are you going to tell somebody to unconditionally love me and I don't even know myself?
I think that as time, I think that's why even though a lot of us are pushing 30 and single, I think the world is different.
I think we're taught to know each other.
And I think that when you get to know yourself, then you can choose who to be with.
This works for me.
This doesn't work for me.
But if you're like, okay, I like you and you like me, let's just be together.
And you don't even know, like, even though I like you and I'm, you're fine.
I'm attracted to you.
It takes time.
But yeah, I don't know your household.
I don't know what you were raised.
I don't know your values.
I don't know if what you've been through is what I've been through.
So you might think this way because that's how she was born and I was born different.
So that's why I told her, please don't feel bad because I know that how I was raised, I know for sure was not how everyone else was raised.
I was not expecting that.
What about you?
Did you have something of that?
Okay, but you agree with Shaq on the not showing vulnerability thing.
I mean, I don't think life's that complicated.
I think that...
To each their own.
Respectfully, though.
I mean, I just think...
Because my childhood was complicated.
Yeah.
I don't think life's that complicated.
I mean, I think it's just...
Well, I don't know.
She's saying...
Well, we're two different cultures.
Hold on, hold on.
Can you guys let her speak, please?
Go ahead.
You were trying to say...
Go ahead.
I don't know.
I don't think life's that complicated.
I think, like, as women, we're just like...
I don't know.
Personally, me, I'm just worried about getting to the age where my eggs run out.
I just want to have kids ASAP, and I want to be a mom.
Damn, she wants kids, man.
Yeah, I definitely want kids.
I want kids.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Your man better be watching.
She's a little different in my minority communities.
I'm so sorry.
I don't really want to find myself or anything.
I'm being honest.
It's not an excuse, but it's honestly.
It's not an excuse, man.
Stop saying that now.
What?
No.
I have a question for you.
Do you think that your parents' dynamic has had to do with why you view things the way that you do?
Absolutely.
That's why I just said I can't accept somebody to agree.
But my parents' dynamic is what's supposed to dictate.
No, it's not.
No, but it's supposed to have an influence.
Yeah, but no, no, no, no.
Since you were born, the person that you learned from is your parents.
But you just said, as an adult, you make a choice for yourself.
Exactly, because I've been, yes.
But from birth to 17, 18, rightfully so, we are not allowed to make our decisions.
So if you were born with a mom that was a whore, and she was just You can play the music.
And that's what you learned.
Yes, you can make a decision because that doesn't resonate with you.
You can say, I don't want to do that with myself.
But if you're used to it, yes, it has some influence on you.
Duh!
If you spend five years in a relationship, you're influenced by that person.
They say you start talking like that person.
So why wouldn't your 17 years of growth have anything to do?
Of course you can make...
My parents were 17 and 19.
I don't have any kids yet.
On purpose, because I wanted to get to know myself.
I've seen what happened when you don't know yourself and you're in a relationship and you're together.
And my parents had to get to know themselves through each other.
And I didn't want to do that.
But I think your mom knows herself, though.
Like you said earlier, your mom chose.
My mom learned herself.
She was not the woman that she was growing up that she is now.
But she's still accepted now.
And then actually, to be honest, after talking to her daughters, like me and my sisters telling her, Mom, you don't have to accept that.
We actually taught my mom and we helped her.
Poison!
And both.
No, but no, but my father loves her now because now he's not cheating on her.
Before my mom was Puerto Rican, she thought if I fold your clothes and I do everything and I fix your toes, that you're not going to cheat on me.
No, my father wanted someone to hold him accountable.
My father's like 53, something like that.
Okay, we got you.
What about you, Ms.
Boca?
Thank you.
I would say...
Okay, I would say there's...
Yeah, okay.
So I would say three different things.
Like, for example, if we're just talking about Shaq, Shaq comes...
I mean, he's entitled to his own opinion, right?
Everyone is.
But he also comes, like...
I feel like in the fame-wise, and when you're in that light, you have to be more cautious about your feelings and about sharing things, unfortunately, because not everyone is good.
So I do think that his opinion is just different from mine.
And that's it.
I feel like he can say that because he lives in a light also that's very...
Yeah, everyone can hear and see everything and know everything.
Celebrity status?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
So then that happens.
But then, you know, I think it's...
I also go back to if you are having someone be vulnerable in front of you and then throwing it back on them, there's some internal issues with you because if you can't control that and be mature, then you need to reevaluate your life because that's just toxic.
If you're throwing things out and I'm throwing things out, then why are we in a relationship?
But it could happen.
Are you calling women toxic?
You know, like, everyone's toxic.
I don't think everyone's toxic.
No, I meant, like, everyone can be toxic, right?
But I don't think, like, they can be toxic.
Depends on your point of view, I think.
Yeah, it depends on your point of view.
But if that's the case, everyone can be a killer.
Wait, so did you agree or disagree with Shaq?
Sorry.
Okay, so there was like three parts to it.
I would just...
Just summarize it.
Yeah, I would say disagree, but also because...
His status.
Just his status, right?
Celebrity.
Like, he's a celebrity status, so he has to be a bit more quiet, and maybe he was taught to be more reservative and cautious.
But, you know, good for him if he wants to, like, not show his feelings.
Hopefully he finds whatever he's looking for, but for...
I don't...
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's okay to show.
But then I also mentioned that if you're throwing out vulnerable things that someone shared with you, there's an issue.
Like, there's like, why are you doing that?
Like, why are you doing that?
I'm sharing something personal with you.
Why are you using it as an attack?
There's an issue.
You need to, like, figure out why you do that.
Which is why we're even having a conversation about vulnerability.
Who's at fault?
The person that shared the information or the person that went ahead and decided to take that information and use it against them?
You know...
Who's at fault?
Okay, so this is a tricky question because if that person doesn't know they're at fault, then they're going to continue to do that.
And if the person they're with maybe doesn't recognize that, then...
You know, it's like, I think if that makes sense, like, you can be doing something and you're not aware of it.
Maybe, you know, maybe it could be you work through a conversation.
If that person does it, be like, hey, like, I told you that in confidence.
Now you're throwing at me.
That's like, what are you doing?
Like, that's not nice.
You know, you communicate and talk about it.
So if people could do that, wouldn't it be fair to say that that advice is preventative?
Sorry, can you repeat that?
Because you're saying there's people out there that are capable and will use it against you, right?
Yeah, I've heard of the things.
But you're saying you disagree even though this advice is preventative to that.
I don't understand.
I'm sorry.
He's saying the advice from Shaq helps prevent that from happening.
That's a big problem.
By not sharing yourself?
Yeah, but why are you going to live your life with not being your authentic self?
I think that's the issue here.
I do think this is the biggest issue.
A lot of people suppress themselves.
Yeah, the biggest.
I don't know.
Whatever.
But...
So you still disagree even though it's preventive advice?
Yeah, sure.
But everyone's entitled to live their life the way that they want.
So if you want to like never share your feelings, okay, don't go share your feelings.
But, you know, if you do, like maybe beautiful things can come from it.
But it's just like your perspective of...
But we're just talking about Shaq and what he said, right?
And what he says could be just very because he's in the spotlight.
And he's entitled to that, you know?
If he doesn't want to...
Tell someone something, it's on TMZ the next day.
He's different.
I don't think we can use him as like a marker.
Yeah.
But we're saying, do you think his advice is good for the general public to apply?
Well, he's successful.
I mean, I think we should take advice from someone who's that successful.
But not in relationships.
Every time you get in your car, you can get in a car accident.
So it's like, why not ever get in my car because I think I can get in a car accident?
But aside from Shaq being a celebrity, it could still be a liability for a man who's super successful unless he brings you to a work event.
And now you were mad at him before that and you know something and then you make a scene.
It's like...
That is still liability.
That's still an issue that whether you're a celebrity or not, a man can face.
I think what Shaq was trying to do was give advice for a man to become as successful as he is, regardless if it's in a relationship or not.
I think it's helped him because he could have definitely suffered with the women that he's been involved with.
But I think it's toxic because he's in the spotlight.
So that has to be very specific to men that are in the spotlight.
No, because there's men that are very successful that women just gravitate towards because they are who they are.
They smell good.
They look good.
They got money.
They got the car.
They got the energy.
And, like, it doesn't matter if he's on TV. Like, it's like, let's say you go, like, I'm not sure if you're single, but let's say you were single and you go somewhere, like, upscale.
You're going to scan the room.
As women, that's what we do.
You scan the room.
She made a good point.
Most women are going to want the guy's status.
You know what I mean?
So, by default, talk to your guys, get all the women.
Yeah.
And regardless whether you're famous or not, like I know men that are like my mentor, for example, he's a wonderful man.
He's been in my life for like four or five years.
He's married.
He's happily married.
He loves his wife.
But when we do projects together and we're out and like the women just watch him just because of his energy and the way he carries himself.
So we all want, you know, the top providers, whatever.
But that's like what one percent of men.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So, again, how can that, what he said, be applied to the general?
Because most of the other guys are invisible to you.
So by default, you're looking for those guys.
And a lot of men don't want to be.
A lot of people don't want to be successful.
There's a lot of people who are okay being who they are.
That's true.
Yeah, and it's a lot of women who don't want to be with a top, high-value man either.
Yeah.
But I think a lot of those women aren't happy eventually.
The women that I know that aren't with...
I'm not saying that you have to be with a 1%er, right?
But if there's things within him that she wished...
She's like, I want to change him.
I wish he was better.
I wish he had more motivation.
Why not just get with someone who's already there?
Like, you can help the person or whatever, but if they have the ambition and they want it is one thing.
But if that man doesn't want it, why are you trying to change it?
I can be the first to tell you I've been with men who are successful.
And yeah, that might not be the issue.
I don't have to worry about finances.
I don't have to worry about money.
But there's a lot of other issues that come along with it.
That another woman with a regular guy, like when I was younger in high school, I was with my ex.
Girls used to be like, oh, you're dating him.
You're so lucky.
And I used to be like, no, because I have to deal with this, this, this, and this.
Who hurt you, man?
But that's what I'm saying about people trying to change people.
Well, I was with a three-time Olympian.
He was just a growing man.
I feel like exceptional man, though, they come with exceptional problems.
I always tell myself that.
That's a very good point.
Real quick, what about you?
Thoughts on Shaq's statement here?
Disagree or agree?
I don't really agree, especially after we kind of had that conversation.
You were like, girls can throw it in your face.
I'm actually not a vulnerable person because I've had it thrown in my face so much by men.
And I also want to say that I think vulnerability and a lack of control over your emotions are two different things.
It's almost like we're grouping emotional and vulnerability as the same thing.
What did they throw in your face?
What did they throw in your face?
Oh, like an argument.
It's like, oh, why don't you fix the problems with your dad before you come at me about what I'm doing?
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Like...
Okay, what did you start the argument with?
Because you said, before you come at me, XYZ. So you started the argument?
They told her.
Yeah, like, if we were in an argument about whatever, like, my ex was cheating on me ridiculously, like, whatever.
So if I was like, why are you liking these girls' pictures or whatever, he'd be like, why don't you fix whatever you got going on with your dad?
No, I have a place to fix your daddy issues before you come at me.
Hold on.
Did you make more than those guys?
That's the guy she was supporting, I think.
I have a question for you.
What if the thing that's happening, honestly, what if, like, let's say a man says, okay, I have...
A problem controlling my emotions when something makes me uncomfortable, and we're having an uncomfortable situation, and then literally they're doing what they express.
Now, if you say, well, hey, now you're doing what you told me, so it's not throwing it in the person's face, but it's kind of like, hey, you remember when you told me that you had this problem?
Like, all right, example, my ex would say sorry all the time, sorry.
We get into an argument, and he would do the same thing that he would say sorry to.
So I would say, so why when...
After we're arguing, you're sorry, but while we're in the argument, I'm the worst person in the world.
So how do you...
Like, is it a problem?
Is it toxic?
I get what you're saying.
And for him, I take it as him throwing it in my face because I don't think I have issues with my dad.
Like, me...
I haven't spoke to my dad in a very long time, and maybe people think of that as an issue, but I... Don't have hate towards my dad.
I just know that he has work to do.
He needs things that he needs to fix before he's able back into my life.
So for him to be throwing that in my face when I don't...
Like, I don't talk about my dad.
I don't move.
So it's him throwing it in my face.
And again, like they were saying, I was providing for this man, so it was really just his insecurities.
He was just attacking me because...
It's your choice of men.
But I think that's also...
And you were probably...
Because here's the thing.
Because...
We're not stupid, man.
When women are in provider situation with a man, they become insufferable.
You guys become bitchy, annoying.
You have a real level of discontent with the individual.
You're always nagging him.
You're annoying as hell.
You might not know this, but that's what happens when women get in their mask and they're providing for the guy.
So you were accusing him of liking pictures or whatever.
He probably got fed up with you, got annoyed, and then he threw that comment.
Which I'm not saying that that was appropriate.
But what if he said like, hey, you're having a problem talking to me right now.
This is the same issue that you go through with your father.
Would that be an issue?
If he's genuinely pointing out like, hey, you're uncomfortable.
Bro, there's nothing to talk about.
The relationship, she was providing for a bum.
I was going to say, the dynamic was already out from the beginning.
You're right, because there are a lot of issues there.
Because when women are providing for men, they become terrible people.
She probably was being bitchy and annoying.
I'm calling him out on cheating, but that's not the issue I had with my father.
My father was very physically abusive, so him throwing that back, it's not the same thing.
I was just talking in general, like anyone.
If you say, okay, bringing it up is toxic, but if you say, hey, this is the same thing, you said that you have an issue with.
It's a relationship that was doomed to begin with in the beginning.
Can I just make one little point?
Anytime a woman's in a breadwinner position providing for a guy and he doesn't work and she's paying all the bills, she's going to become crabby and annoying and resentful.
It is what it is.
Women are not meant to provide for men.
As a man being in opposition, he's going to act all in different ways.
Yeah, he's going to be feminine and just do that dumb shit that he did.
Like, oh, that's why you don't talk to your dad.
Dumb shit like that.
Because she's being annoying.
Which, rightfully so, she's paying all the bills.
Well, and he's not being faithful.
I think that's a rightful...
Because he doesn't feel...
For example, in that position, he can't be a man for himself.
He's being vulnerable.
He's going to act out in ways to punish him because he's taking responsibility for his actions.
That's what we're trying to say.
No, and any time he opened up to me about anything, I was totally okay with vulnerability.
I think lack of emotions is different than vulnerability.
Vulnerability is being open to your weaknesses, where being emotional is acting out.
Okay, I got a question for the girls.
Alright, so we have three scenarios here, okay?
And I want you to pick the scenario that's the most attractive to you, alright?
So please pay attention.
Three different scenarios.
Number one, your man gets fired from his job, he cries, gives up for a little bit, but you support him for six months and he gets up on his feet, right?
That's scenario one.
Scenario two, he gets fired, He cries to you.
You get very involved in helping him find a job, and he gets one.
And he gets back on his feet.
Or scenario number three, which is your man got fired from his job, didn't say a fucking word about it, got another job, and made ends meet anyway.
And you never knew about it, and you found out after the fact that he found another job and done all this behind your back.
What's the most attractive of the three scenarios?
One more time for you guys.
Hold on.
Scenario one, gets fired, cries, gives up for a period of time, and then you support him for six months before he gets on his feet.
Scenario two, gets fired, cries about a little bit, shows some vulnerability, and then you get heavily involved in helping him find another job, and he gets back on his feet.
Or scenario number one, or three in this case, is...
He loses his job, has the problem, you don't find out about it, he secretly finds another job, makes ends meet anyway, and you find out after the fact, months later, that he had gotten fired from that job and he took care of it and didn't say a word about it.
What's the most attractive scenario here?
We'll start here.
On point, yeah.
On point.
Every time.
Well, I think it's, to me, I think it's obvious.
Obviously, the most attractive would be if he just hustled it out and did it himself.
However, I don't think the other two options are unattractive either.
If we're going by what's most attractive, though, definitely the last one.
Alright, what about you?
Um...
Definitely not the last one.
Oh, sorry.
Definitely not the last one.
Where he figured it out and just handled it without saying anything?
Yeah, because that just, for me, is kind of like...
When you're in a relationship, it's communication and I want to know that kind of stuff.
And if you're not communicating, I just, that's like weird energy.
So which one is it then?
So I would say, okay, so the first, yeah, I would say between the two, the first two, because you don't necessarily need to- Which one is it?
One you support her for six months, the other one is you get super involved in helping to find another job.
You can do both.
Absolutely, because you don't have to devote yourself to doing it, but you do want your man to...
So which one is the more attractive one?
Were you supportive for six months or the one where you actively help him find a job because he couldn't do it himself?
I would say both, but if you really want me to pick one, like, I wouldn't mind helping or just kind of, like, figuring it out as a team.
But, you know, it is good to see, you know, someone...
So option two for you?
I'm in between, no.
One and two together.
Okay.
What about you?
I think the last one.
I think a man's job is simply to just...
Figure it out?
Provide.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Which one is the most attractive of the three?
So I do think that it's attractive to just figure things out on yourself, by yourself.
Providing...
Alright, so I do believe in helping, but I think each person, bare minimum, should provide for themselves.
So I'm not providing for a man, but I'll be there and I'll be supportive through the six months.
So it's option one?
I think between option one and number three.
The last one I described.
Okay, what about you?
Which one is the most attractive of the three?
For me, it would be number three because I would feel like he actually cares about not putting extra stress on me.
My goal in life is to take care of my children, homeschool them, all of that, and stay home.
So if I'm already investing all this time in the kids and they need me, me doing that for you, I'm going to not be there for them.
What about you?
Definitely number three.
Okay.
What about you?
I actually think number two, only because I think that...
You're getting heavily involved in helping him find the job because he can't do it on his own?
Yeah.
Only because I think that, especially if we're married, I think that...
You'd want that stress?
I think it'll create...
It'll build our relationship even more.
You think so?
Yeah.
You think it'll build it or hurt it?
I think it'll build it.
And it depends on how you handle stress, too.
Especially if we're married.
I wouldn't mind that.
I would take...
But I would say I would be hesitant if we had kids.
If you're able to let it flow and accept that maybe you're feeling this way, we gotta do it together like a team.
And I think that at the end, our relationship would come out to be stronger.
Yeah, you become stronger.
But imagine if your man looked at you and literally was like, I don't know what we're gonna do, we're fucked.
That shit's scary.
That shit's scary, and especially if you're not...
A lot of the women want to be provided for and aren't the ones who are highly signed.
In that scenario, you become the man, though.
You know that, right?
Yeah.
Well, I'm helping him.
I'm just helping him find a job.
It's not like I'm financially...
Yeah, but you're the problem solver.
You're being masculine now.
Yeah.
But what happens if someone gets crippled or something too?
So you want option two.
You don't want him to figure it out.
You want to be involved in helping him find a job and take on that stress of helping him find a job.
It's just helping him find the job.
It's not like I'm doing the job for him.
Okay, but in that meantime, where he doesn't have a job, are you going to step up and pay bills and shit?
If I have to.
She said if I have to.
If I have to.
Thank you.
Come again.
Alright, what about you?
The third option.
Figure it out on his own?
Okay, what about you?
For me, it has to be the last one too.
Figure it out on his own?
Okay.
So, I just find it interesting how, you know, when it's a situation where you're dependent upon this man, you guys all went for the option where he just figures it out on his own and gets it done and not necessarily opening up to you.
Because, here's the thing.
I agree with Shaq 100%, where you guys are saying, oh no, open up to me or whatever, but I don't think a man should ever open up to a woman because women are terrible people when they have leverage and when they think that they can have one up on you.
And I think a man's job, right, as a masculine individual is to control your emotions because they might come out in a raw form that a woman's not prepared to deal with.
I think masculine problems are to be dealt with masculine figures, which is you, your guy friends, etc.
I don't think men should ever defer to women when they're in a situation like that because women are not security providers.
You even said to yourself, well, I'll help them and stuff, but that's for a period of time.
And that's because women are not naturally providers.
They don't want to go sit there and provide for a man long term.
And if they do, they end up in a really fucked up relationship like she did.
So my thing is I look at it as if I'm supposed to be the leader, I'm supposed to be the dominant one, I'm the one that's responsible for protecting and providing for you, it's my job to make sure that you're secure.
And a big part of you being secure is me being secure in myself to handle shit and not bringing problems to your front door and having you deal with my masculine problems.
It puts you in a very uncomfortable situation, especially if we have kids or we have a family or whatever.
I'm responsible for that.
So if I'm sitting here bringing my problems to you when it's not, quite frankly, your problem, It could cause issues.
And I think a big problem why so many relationships fail is because men aren't providers.
They're not protectors.
And they think that it's okay to open up to their women.
But this is some new age faggotry that makes men soft.
And I don't think men are men because they think it's okay to open up to women.
I don't think it's okay to open up to women because women are emotional.
And since you guys are emotional, you might not be able to deal with our problems the same way that we deal with ours.
And I think, on a man, it's your job to not be emotional in front of your girl, at least, and control your emotions.
Wow.
Ladies, do you know what place has the most emotional men on planet Earth?
America.
Wait.
I'm going to say it again.
Do you know what places in America, or for example, the world, have the most emotional men?
Anybody know?
In America?
Maybe like Latin America.
No, I don't know.
Prison.
Because those guys said, you know what, fuck it.
Emotions, I'ma let it out.
And they do things that are irrational, and they end up in jail.
So you want emotions, but you don't understand how men can actually act out, or what could happen to you in that scenario? - Yeah, like some guys will scream when they get angry, Some guys will, you know, cry uncontrollably.
Some guys will punch walls.
Some guys will enact violence.
You never know.
So vulnerability is just emotions?
Because I view vulnerability like opening up to someone, not necessarily crying or getting angry.
Emotional intelligence is not the same thing as being vulnerable.
But you guys don't get it, that when you're opening up and you're vulnerable, emotions are raw.
A lot of times, they might show the rear its ugly head in a way where they might not be able to control it.
That's what I'm saying.
It's better to just control them and deal with them as a man.
Or if you are going to open up, open up to other men that will understand your struggles.
I do agree with that.
Women don't understand the masculine experience.
And the reason why you guys don't understand the masculine experience is because you guys are women, and that's fine.
But men have a way harder life than women do, especially in 2024 than women do.
So you guys are not going to understand the pressures that we go through and the problems that we have to deal with.
So I don't think it really benefits me to tell you my problems because all it's going to do is make you lose assurity in me.
It's going to make you lose confidence in me.
It's going to make you stressed out because now, oh, I don't know what I'm going to do.
What the fuck?
I'm so...
Responsible for this family, and I'm telling you, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Women are hardwired to be attracted to men that have their shit together and are leaders and are dominant.
There's a reason why women look for men who are taller, stronger, make more money, confident, ambitious.
These are all security features.
Right?
Women look for security value, men look for attraction value, right?
We want replication value, you guys want survival value.
So if I display traits that show that I'm not capable of allowing us to survive being unsure, not being able to provide, being weak, being feeble, not being able to be decisive in my decision making, etc.
These are all turn offs to most women.
Now, and I know some of you guys are sitting here saying, well no, I won't get turned off, I'll have more attraction for you.
That's a bunch of fucking bullshit.
And what I've realized is this.
Women are never really honest about what they're attracted to because the things that women are attracted to are kind of fucked up.
You want a guy that's better than you in every degree.
And for you to sit there as a female and say, well, I want a guy that makes more money than me, is stronger than me, is able to make better decisions than I am, is better than me in every way.
That kind of makes you look like shit as a female to be honest about what you're really attracted and aroused by.
So women have to say dumb shit like, open up to me, I love vulnerability.
Like she said earlier.
Because it's politically correct to sit there and say, men are emotional too and they should be able to open up.
But the reality is women are not attracted to these things.
They might say that they're attracted to them, but once it rears its ugly head, you're like, ew, what the fuck?
Like, you know, because women will sit there and say, I like a dad bod until you fucking get a guy with a dad bod and then you cheat on him.
Right?
Or they'll sit there and say, I'll support you even though you're broke and then they'll do it for a few months and they're like, man, fuck this shit.
This is annoying.
Like, women will sit there and say they like certain things but then once they see these things come in and they're man, it's a fucking problem.
Can I say something?
Whether it is what I like or not, it's really hard to meet a man that has spent his whole life holding in his emotions because of all of those things.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, what I want, yes.
But it's really, really hard to meet another human being that they say, because I was a man, I was not able to show.
And then, so that's why I think when it comes to the wife, maybe that is where you open up to because it's like, okay, now we're locked in.
No, but see, I'm so sorry.
My mom was not toxic, so my mom didn't throw anything, even things that she should have thrown in his face.
With the divorce rates as high as they are, and the way women are nowadays, it is definitely not a good idea to open up to your wife.
I think men should open up to other men, to their buddies, not to girls, not to women at all.
Because women are not, again, like I said before, they're not equipped to handle masculine problems.
So what happens when you're a woman, and this is my husband, and my husband is a ball of...
He's a ball of issues because he opens up to his friends, but he doesn't open up to me.
So now I'm dealing with an emotionally...
Because that's what you're saying is creating an emotionally blocked person.
Are you going to solve his problems?
You ain't going to solve his problems?
No, I didn't.
All right, so...
We're not going to tell you what you can't solve.
So do I think...
So back to our question, I don't think that me getting involved, helping you find a job like your mother is different.
But you saying, hey, I... I'm going through this in between, and you know what?
I feel sad because I can't really provide for you right now.
And then that opens up the door for the woman to say, you know what?
I understand that.
So I just think it's a fine line.
I'm not saying either or is wrong, but I can tell you, even to meet a successful man who's completely financially stable and emotionally a wreck is no better than meeting a man who's...
Financially for it.
Look, again, you just said earlier you preferred the guy just handle the problem and get it done.
No, no, no.
I said, first of all, me, I said two.
I said, would it probably be more attractive, but would that create a healthy relationship?
Maybe, maybe not.
It depends on individuals.
Fuck the maybes, bro.
Some women don't want that.
Some women, it is maybes because some women don't want that.
Fuck what they want, man.
You're burying me.
I don't fuck the fuck they want, man.
Most of the girls at the table preferred the last option because that's a man's job is to just figure shit out and get it done.
Yeah.
Now, you said that and you said, oh, well, I'll help him and stuff.
But yeah, for how long?
Every girl is different.
Some girls might support you for a month.
Some girls might support you for six months.
Some girls might support you for a year.
No, I didn't mean financial.
I said absolutely no financial help.
I said I will emotionally help.
What do you say then?
See, that's what I'm trying to say.
How does that help you emotionally help?
For men, we're about solutions.
This is the difference between men and women.
When men have a problem, they typically are looking for a solution.
When women have a problem, you guys are looking for sympathy.
I can't provide you with another job, because that's really the solution, is you getting another job.
Even if I help you for six months, And if you can't do that, then it's pointless for me to even tell you if you can't help me.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you is that when women have problems and they talk to each other, they just want to be heard.
When men have problems, a lot of times, if we talk to each other, we're trying to find a fucking solution.
No, I believe that.
So, since we are different in how we vent our problems, where men are looking for solutions, women are just looking to be heard, it doesn't benefit me to go to a person, my female, Who won't be able to help me a lot?
I'd be better off going to my guys who would be able to probably give me some practical advice, understand, sympathize, and then I keep my masculinity intact on my woman, show her that I'm a strong leader.
She don't need to see me behind the scenes crying and sobbing and not knowing what the fuck I'm going to do.
I could reserve that for my guy friends because she doesn't have to deal with my fucking problems.
She won't be able to help me with my problems anyway.
But it's different when you're a woman and you've experienced a hurt man like that.
It's easy to say that as a man because I agree with you.
They're venting to their friends.
They don't need to vent to you.
But why would I want my man to go through six months of hell and I don't know nothing about it because he wants to be a strong man.
Personally, personally, that's not it for me.
Well, personally, you're so single.
So, yeah, keep it like that, man.
No, but choice, though.
No, but you're also single and you're not married either.
Hey, I'm happy.
I'm happy too.
I'm very happy.
And I have choices and my pick of the litter.
This society is not the same as when my parents were married.
Stop for two seconds.
You mentioned a man going through six months of hell of etc.
A man's experience, men must suffer.
Women don't.
Men are built on trauma and overcoming it.
Who said women don't suffer?
We have our periods.
We give birth.
That's suffering.
Okay.
It's to each his own.
I'm talking about real suffering.
I'm talking about suffering as in where it's not a choice.
You have to go out there and get it.
He's not wrong.
Men must suffer.
Men must endure to become a man.
There's a rite of passage for becoming a man, right?
Women value experience.
Men value inexperience.
So we don't want a girl that's all traumatized and fucked up, right?
Because she ends up being a whore a lot of the times.
Women, on the other hand, want a man that's been through some trauma and been able to overcome it and get on the other side better.
So you're saying, oh, well, I want my man to know if he's been going through hell for six months.
What you don't realize is he probably went through hell to be in a position to even be attracted to you in the fucking first place.
So my thing is, hold on.
The male experience and the female experience is completely different.
And women have zero idea of the male experience.
And I'm telling you, men must suffer.
That's not true.
I know so many women who go through so many things right now.
But you know why?
Because men are not providing.
They're not doing the things to make women not have to suffer anymore.
But that's not a choice.
Nor do they want to.
They made a choice.
So now women are working for...
And as women, we fought for freedom.
Totally.
We fought to vote, but that still proves that a man suffers more.
Do you not understand that what I'm trying to explain to you is that we don't give a fuck about a woman's suffering?
A woman's suffering doesn't make her more attractive, but a man's suffering does, because you're able to overcome it and adapt.
Women want men that are resourceful and able to do obstacles.
I think to each his own, because I don't agree with anything you're saying.
And that's to each his own.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Why do men value virgins?
Since the beginning of time, in every different culture, in every single culture, every demographic of religion, why do men value women that are chaste and virgins?
I think because they haven't been touched by another man.
Okay.
So lack of experience, right?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
That's what men value.
Less trauma.
Less trauma.
That's what we value.
So if a woman is going through suffering and trauma and all this shit, we don't like that.
We don't want a girl like that.
Well then that's true.
Might as well get a plastic doll because your mama has been through years of suffering.
Whether you know about it or not.
It doesn't matter, but it's a woman.
Your mom is a woman.
So women go through a lot of traumas.
I think that we shouldn't be speaking.
I think men should be men and go through what they go through, and women should be women.
I don't think one is less or better than the other or more.
Now, back in the days, I do think men...
You're missing the biggest point that I'm making here, which is...
Trauma and resilient men are attractive.
Men that are able to overcome.
We don't give a shit about a woman's trauma because it doesn't make us more attracted to a girl that's been through a bunch of shit.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
So, as the man, right?
If my girl comes to me and says, I got fired from my job.
Oh my God, fuck.
Like, it's okay.
Don't worry about it.
I got it.
It don't fucking matter.
Like, men don't give a shit about a woman's vulnerability.
We don't care if you cry or you're emotional or you're erratic, whatever.
We understand that's a female.
But as a man, if I come to you crying, I got fired from my job.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
That's a problem.
We're not the same.
There's a reason why you even admit it yourself.
I'm not going to support a man.
Yeah, you're damn right you're not.
But a man will support you.
But you know why?
Even your own relationships.
Every guy that you've been with on paper is superior to you.
That's true.
The Olympic athlete, the musician, etc.
They're all way better than you.
But why did they pick you?
Because they don't give a fuck about your drama.
No, but that's not true though.
Stop.
The point I'm trying to make is even the men that you align yourself with are superior to in every single way.
And you pick them and that's fine.
Oh, actually they picked me, so no.
Bruh.
Look.
I picked my man to disappear.
He fucked your ass.
It's a difference, man.
Yeah, but he swung me out and I said, okay, so yes, knowing what situation I was in.
So you made a choice.
Yes, I made a choice.
All I'm trying to explain to you is...
And half the time I didn't know what he was superior or not or what he did, so I didn't know.
All I'm trying to explain to you is...
You knew, man.
All the men that you were with overcame and went through trauma to become the men that they were.
One was an Olympic athlete, another one was a multimillionaire musician, etc., real estate investor, but they didn't give a shit about what you bring to the table, did they?
They probably don't.
Matter of fact, one of them funded you to get to a position where you can rise up as well.
No, he didn't.
You said $40,000 in the studio!
That I wasn't able to use, so who was he funding?
His ego or me?
No, because my engineers, the people who I work with, that I've been working with for the past 10 years, know because if I'm working on something, I need the people who I've been working with.
You can't just choose to do that.
Oh, I'm going to do this and then forget about everything that you've been working with.
Now you're saying That's not what he said.
What he said was that he's been above and beyond to go for you.
One of the things that you guys said right now that doesn't really make sense to me is earlier you said that the reason why women suffer is because men aren't providing and aren't doing whatever.
That proves right there that a man suffers more because he has to do double the work.
No, what I'm saying is that men are just not the only one.
I feel like, personally, the dynamic is a little off.
That's all I'm saying.
That I feel like it's not the same because back in the day, yes, a woman was meant to stay home, take care of the kids, and yes, you guys did rightfully suffer more.
That's not true because how many single women are there that they have kids, the father left, and now they still have to provide and take care of their kids.
So now they have to do both.
So no, they don't.
Yeah, it was But it doesn't matter.
That's not true, though, because you don't know who someone is.
Yeah, but that's true.
Then you shouldn't be having a child with them or laying up with them if you feel that way.
But that's why life happens, though.
You have to be.
Yeah, but that's not right.
Life happens because you don't have too many choices.
Women don't take accountability, bro.
You chose to lay up with that man, and he wasn't shit.
And now you're stuck with a kid and you're single, bro.
All the men in this room, you're in a successful relationship.
You guys are equal.
She gets pregnant and you get scared.
You're going to tell me that that man in that situation getting scared, a little nervous, doesn't mean that he's not going to provide, but that little bit of uncomfortability doesn't make a woman uncomfortable.
So if I choose to leave you or to still be with you because you're scared, because you don't know what the future, you don't No!
That's why I said that we put everything as men and women, but human beings is when you face an animal, when you're faced with something that you're uncertain of, you don't know.
We're not the same.
We're not the same.
You keep saying human beings, like, yeah, when it comes down to, like, the whole we bleed and we have...
Hold on, let me make a point real quick.
Hold on, hold on.
No, but you are trying to make us fused.
It becomes one when you have a marriage.
Let me finish, babe.
Let me finish.
Everybody lets you talk.
Let me talk.
Listen, I'm just being real.
At the end of the day, you become one when you are married and you have your partner.
That's what makes you whole.
But aside from that, we are not the fucking same.
We're not.
Literally, women, when they have sex, we release a certain chemical that makes us fall in love.
Men aren't like that, bro.
He has to love you before he fucks you.
So what I'm saying is that Every person is entitled to their person.
No, God made anger.
He made sadness.
He made happiness.
That is for every person.
It doesn't matter whether you're a human being, whether you're a man or a woman, every human being.
What point are you arguing right now?
Hold on, what point are you arguing right now?
Because she said that I said we're the same.
What I'm saying is not that we're the same.
I said every human has a right to be a human.
Agreed.
That's it.
I didn't say that many.
Of course men and women are different.
One has a penis, one has a vagina.
One inserts, one takes.
I definitely believe that.
In context, what happens when you express yourself to women?
I'll give you an example.
A man that's vulnerable, goes to school with other women, He likes a girl.
She says to him, Jimmy, you're cool.
Let's just be friends.
He says to her, look, I love you so much.
I like you a lot.
No, Jimmy, we're just friends.
Goes to class, back to school, goes on.
Jimmy sees her with somebody else.
Jimmy gets mad.
What was Jimmy?
Vulnerable in the first place.
Jimmy says, you know what?
Fuck this shit.
I hate my life.
Goes home, picks up his father's gun, goes out of school, shoots it up.
What was Jimmy?
Vulnerable.
Jimmy wasn't able to control his emotions.
Emotional intelligence and vulnerability is two different things.
Being vulnerable leads to what?
Emotion.
So it's tied together regardless.
Yeah.
Yeah, but can I say something, though?
I think we put all these boxes.
If someone hurts my feelings, that don't give me the right to go and shoot up a school.
Like, that's the difference.
We're not saying it's okay.
We're just saying it can lead to that.
Yes, but then that means, you know what that means?
That there's a bigger issue than being vulnerable.
That issue is not vulnerability.
That is psychotic.
That's emotionally intelligent.
But you cannot predict Of course, but that's why when people do things wrong like that, they go to jail.
Do you think that the jail cares about emotions or vulnerability?
No, they say that you have the right to make the decision.
No, I didn't say that.
I agree with that.
Let's stick to the topic at hand.
All I'm simply saying is that men shouldn't open up to their girl because the reason why men shouldn't open up is because men are supposed to be the leaders and as a leader, it is your job where you are responsible for yourself and your woman in providing security.
If I can't Create that aura of security, then the woman is not going to feel secure, and she's probably going to want to leave the relationship because women are hardwired to look for security in men.
I agree with that.
I regret what I said before.
I agree with you guys.
What are you saying?
I believe if that was the way to work, then we would have a lot more unhealthy relationships, and we don't.
What was that you said?
I said I don't disagree with you, but if I think that was the golden ticket, I think there would be a lot more healthy relationships, and to be honest, it's not because...
Every person is different.
No, I'm saying the reason why relationships are fucked up is because men act more like women and open up to women.
I do believe that right now.
I think it's education, too.
And the way that you're raised, it's just a lot of different factors.
You can't just group everyone and everybody's all together.
It doesn't make sense.
If we're talking about right now, today, we're not in the olden days, right?
We have to be realistic with today's times.
We can't think like...
With the old school mentality anymore.
I understand where you're coming from, right?
I can see both sides, but you just can't.
I don't know.
You can't.
It doesn't make sense to me.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Do you want a guy that's stronger than you and taller than you?
You know what I want?
I want a guy that loves me and takes care of me.
Tell the truth.
Come on, man.
That is the truth.
That is the truth.
Excuse me.
You can't tell me what the truth is.
Hold on.
Listen, I go to brunch.
This is the problem with females.
You guys assume attraction, but you guys don't want to divulge what made you attracted to the man in the first place because it might make you look a certain way.
I'll tell you.
Because you're saying, I just want a man that loves me or I'm going to love him back.
And respects me and that cares for me, that has good values.
that is...
What if he had no teeth?
Do you know what?
Then I wouldn't be talking.
No, but you wouldn't be talking.
Can I finish talking?
You wouldn't be talking.
There's plenty of men that like have these traits, but they have to have certain prerequisites first for you to give them a chance.
But that's not like, I'm not gonna talk to everyone and give everyone my energy.
So you're picky.
No, it's not that I'm picky.
I know my worth.
And it's not that the person that has bad teeth or things like that.
I'm sorry, there's a lot of people that maybe have...
Who's coughing and laughing?
I'm sorry.
Come on, chill, man.
Because you care about physicality and you can just say it.
I think everything is to each their own.
I think that's why there's so many conflict because I think it's just to each their own.
Everybody has an application of a guy.
If somebody was more masculine, she might not.
Everyone wants it.
Everyone's superficial and everyone's shallow because as soon as I said no teeth, you were like...
No, but you didn't let me speak.
You kind of just jumped, but that's not true.
You're kind of jumping to conclusions, though.
But it's not, for me, like your teeth or whatever you look.
Like some, you know, people go in love.
It's not about that, though.
It's not about looks.
It's not what's on the outside.
It's what's on the inside.
But let's acknowledge that everybody has a right to be attracted to what they're attracted to.
That's what I'm trying to say.
And it doesn't mean that they're It doesn't mean that they're superficial, doesn't mean I don't like teeth, but at the end of the day, looks fade away.
It's not about looks, Chet.
No, but it's the truth.
Looks literally fade away, right?
And you want to be able to have that connection with someone for love, because literally, I want to grow old with someone, that's the truth.
I'm not, at the end of the day, he's gonna- But you're gonna have standards, though, first, right?
Yes.
Before you fall in love with them, you're gonna have standards, correct?
But, okay.
Okay, so, all right, so you're gonna have standards on them.
Let's talk about those standards.
Okay.
Do you want them taller than you, preferably?
No, I guess we're talking in this situation, right?
Okay, so it's not a deal breaker.
Okay, do you want him to earn more than you, or at least equal?
Yeah.
Okay, would you prefer for him to be a breadwinner or not?
Bread?
I just like I guess like I don't I don't know I don't like what like I'm not understanding your question we're trying to go.
What you want in a man?
I mean do you want him to be a predominant earner and you can and you just maybe like he pays the majority of the bills?
I mean, I think it could be equal, but I mean, I think that like the society thinks that like men have to pay for everything.
Do you want a guy that's going to be a gentleman like open doors for you and pay for dates and shit like that?
Yeah, but I kind of feel like we're going off track with the question.
No, we're not.
I'm bringing it back somewhere.
You're bringing it back to like my standards.
You're trying to say about my standards that have certain things, right?
Yeah.
But okay, I understand that, but it doesn't mean I'm going to close the door on everybody.
But I'm also not going to talk to the world because I don't have time to do that, right?
You just contradicting yourself.
No, but I see what you're saying on me trying to contradict myself in saying that, right?
I understand what you're saying.
But it's not necessarily like judging a book by its cover.
Like, that's just not...
Everyone does that.
But like, wait, everybody does.
But maybe I don't.
Okay, but like, I don't...
Don't let anybody make you feel bad for choosing what you want or what you don't want.
But that's what I'm saying.
There's nothing wrong with admitting that that's the first thing you see.
But you're just saying you're not superficially dating.
It is superficial because if I say I only like goth men, then I'm being superficial to only goth men.
Why don't y'all understand what that means?
It's okay.
No, no.
Everybody has the choice to choose what they like or what they don't like.
If you like a man with long hair, it doesn't mean that should be beneficial.
I don't know if you guys are catching this, but you're saying a bunch of word salad so that you don't come off as discriminatory.
That's what I hear.
That's what the thing is, because I'm listening very closely to you.
On one end, you're saying, I don't give my time to everyone, but at the same time, I'll give a chance to a bunch of people.
But if I gave my time to everyone, I'm not going to be able to do anything.
So by definition, that means you discriminate against people.
No, it's not that.
That means you have standards.
That means you have so much I want to do with my life.
No, stop.
No.
Excuse me, it's not about that.
I have a lot.
So you don't have standards.
No, it's not that I don't have standards.
Can I answer that?
I think what you're saying is right because I think as women we don't really know.
Stop, stop, stop.
This is what I'm trying to say.
You've been contradicting yourself.
People right here, even in the chat right now, we got 23,000 people.
You don't make sense.
Because at one end, you're saying, oh, I have standards.
I don't give everyone my time.
But then on the other hand, like, yeah, I can love someone just if they love me back.
But that doesn't make sense.
I don't think women realize how many things, like you were saying, dictate that you have a strong hand.
Relax, man, relax.
You've talked enough.
What I'm trying to say here is that you don't make sense, okay?
On one end you're saying, oh, well, it's not the 1800s anymore.
Things have changed.
But the thing is that female attraction standards have not really changed that much.
You can sit there and say, I'm a modern woman now and we're equal, etc.
But it's not that.
But you're not hardwired to want an equal.
But you're taking it that way and I can't control the way that you're taking it.
The way that I'm going to live about my life and I'm just going to...
Bless you.
That stuff doesn't dictate that.
I, like, know what I want.
You don't know what you want because you can't even describe it.
You don't know what I want.
You don't make sense.
With all due respect, you make zero sense.
I've been trying to ask you, well, give us the standards.
And then you give us, like, monotonous, ridiculous, intangible.
Because here's the thing.
I see what you're trying to do here.
You don't want to come off as discriminatory.
That's not true.
But at the same time, you want to show that you have standards.
That's why you're giving a bunch of word salad.
You're not able to literally tell us what it is that you want.
Because the reality is this.
You don't want to say the uncomfortable truth that you want a guy that's better than you in every degree.
This is what all women want.
It's biology.
Women want men that are superior to them in every way.
But you don't want to say that because it comes off as fucked up and shallow.
No, I never said that.
You kind of just put that in my...
I never said that, though.
I'm just...
I'm allowed...
Put that in your mouth?
But...
I'm sorry?
No.
Go ahead.
Talk.
Yeah, no.
I think you're kind of twisting it, but that's okay.
I'm not twisting it.
I'm telling you what women in general want.
Right.
And you're trying to show that you're different.
That's not true.
I'm not trying to show anything.
I'm just being myself.
I'm sorry that I view it like that.
And I understand that maybe people have prerequisites of People that they want and they check off the list, but like I'm not gonna track that.
Like either too.
What are you saying?
Before you interrupt me so I talk too much, can I say what I was gonna say?
I think what you're saying is that...
Please thank you.
What I think what he's saying is that...
Yo, who show are you on?
No, I'm showing what I'm saying.
I'm agreeing with you.
Hold on, she's talking.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
She's talking, bro.
Give me two.
Let her talk.
Let her finish her point, man.
Like, goddamn, let her talk.
No, no, no.
We're talking the whole show.
No, she had finished talking.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
She can talk.
I'm done.
Bro, like you need to chill out, man.
I'm done talking though.
I was going to agree with you.
I was done talking though.
That's what I'm saying.
She was done talking.
I think you want to comment on what I said so that you don't want me to, like I think I said something that maybe you want to keep going, but I was done talking.
And all I was saying was that I think women, I think what you said in the beginning was important.
I think that we say we want a strong man.
We want this.
We want that.
But we don't know what makes that man strong.
I think what he's saying is that this is what...
I see why you single, man.
Who?
I'm not single.
Yeah, because you talk over niggas, man.
Like, it's our podcast.
I wasn't talking to him.
I was talking to her.
It doesn't matter.
You don't disrespect women.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
You don't disrespect me.
No.
It doesn't matter.
Well, then you shouldn't have been biting people.
Because I have a platform, too.
You don't disrespect me like that.
Because I wasn't being...
I was agreeing with him, bro.
I was trying to...
I was saying that there was a misunderstanding.
I think what we want, we don't know.
Here's the problem.
When you talk, we shut up.
When you talk, you talk over us.
No, I wasn't talking over him.
She was talking.
She finished talking, and I replied back to what she was saying.
And the only reason why I said that...
Again.
I told you to stop.
You're on the platform.
We're being respectful.
So when we talk, we learn to talk.
I'm sorry, but him saying you talked enough, it doesn't matter what platform you're disrespecting me now.
So neither do I. I don't care either.
Because you're disrespecting me.
No, I don't.
I've been told you that.
Because you're being disrespectful.
All I was trying to say is that he's right.
I don't think we as women, when we say we want this, we want that.
I don't think we understand what it creates.
I think that's why he was right, is because we say we want a strong man, we want this, but in order to be that, you kind of do have to show, not show emotions and be unvulnerable.
I was just trying to say, I think that as women, that's the issue.
We don't understand them and they don't understand us.
That's it.
But I'm about to head out of here because I don't care about this.
Alright, fucking leave, man.
Thank God, bro.
Holy shit, dude.
Yo, KS to not disconnect.
Why do you disagree and disagree?
Why do you have to get so much?
I remember why, actually.
Come on, leave, man.
- She's the one who's talking, she's a friend.
And then I'm not like, she's a black hole.
- You're gonna say what you said without feeling something like that.
- But like you said, and I'm not a Russian guy.
- I'm probably getting like made one of those little things.
- Yo, if you wanna leave, you'll leave.
You can go.
I ain't stopping you.
We ain't stopping you.
You can go.
But I don't understand.
No, you said you don't get fucked.
No, no, no.
I said he was disrespectful.
So I didn't care.
Let's go, man.
Are you trying to leave, man?
Oh, man, that's I don't care.
But it still doesn't mean that you're right.
It doesn't mean that you're disrespectful.
You're talking about putting it in her mouth.
You put it in your mouth.
You put it in your mouth.
You don't talk to a woman like that.
You don't talk to a woman and that's the thing.
Men need to respect women, but men need to respect women as well.
This is what they're like.
You're not married.
You're barely successful off of talking shit.
I don't want to be married to you, man.
First of all, you don't even have enough money to be married to me.
You don't even look cute.
You need to go to the gym.
You need to live some way, and then maybe we can talk.
And you're so single, man.
I'm not, though.
If it makes you feel better, you don't know me.
If it makes you feel better, if it makes you feel better, and I don't want to know you, bitch, you can never fuck me.
You're too fat.
Your stomach can't even fit over your dick.
I'm so sorry.
You're a bitch.
I hope y'all are watching this because he's a bitch.
And I'm not emotional at all.
If that's what you get, you're a bitch.
And you're a zero.
You can't even look over your dick.
Look over your dick, bro.
Your stomach can't even look over your dick.
Now what?
Now what?
Erin, you're not even cute.
Go to the dentist and get your gap fixed.
Go to the dentist and get your gap fixed.
You can't even talk to me.
You can't even talk to me.
See, this was not supposed to be like this.
I've seen you guys going at it.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I can lose weight.
But your ass, bro, you are 30.
No, I'm not 30, baby.
I'm going to be 26 in May, and I'm good.
I'm good.
Anything that you say is not going to bother me because I know me.
You having to do that to a woman says a lot about you, Erin.
You need you.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's why you live your life off of doing this.
That's why I said I didn't care because I was honestly here to give you my opinion.
It doesn't even matter.
Erin, go lose some weight in the gym.
You said you could lose weight while you're not doing it.
Go do it.
You're not cute at all.
You're not cute at all.
And it's very unattractive that you feel like you have to install a woman for your platform.
You're not married either.
You're not married either.
I think you said you were going to get up and leave, so let's just make that happen.
The disrespect is unnecessary, and I don't feel any type of way, because like she said, I wasn't saying anything back.
Just go up and leave.
Just please get up and leave.
Just please get up and leave.
Cameron's still a bitch, and he always looks at me.
Okay, that's fine.
You feel like you have to talk to him?
Because of a platform?
Excellent sibling, quietly, please.
We'll escort you out.
We got more room now.
Holy, thanks.
They can't even talk properly.
Goddamn!
Ow!
Ow!
Did I hurt you?
I'm sorry.
No, that was my fault.
Somebody rolled over a toe or something?
I did.
Damn.
Damn, man.
Accountability.
Yeah.
That's good.
Okay.
All right.
Wow!
Very interesting.
3-3-3.
Yo, no offense, bro.
You should take up a lot of show, man.
I was trying to be nice, but damn, bro.
At the end of the day, man, she was talking the whole time.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on, man?
Yeah, Chow's getting annoyed too, bro.
She's butting in?
Chow's getting annoyed as hell.
Like, when they're talking, bro.
Niggas are just saying, yap, yap, yap.
Oh, my God.
Yapisha.
Thank you.
Yapisha.
Bro, I don't want to say it.
Black girls?
She's Puerto Rican.
It's funny because Aaron actually called her out before the show.
Yeah, he did.
He said the black girls always get aggressive and she licked at them sideways.
Bro, like, at the end of the day, I called her out.
I'm like, yo, bro, black girls all get aggressive.
And then she was like, bro, she was huffing and puffing, man.
I just think at the end of the day, like, and baby, I know you're going to watch this when you go home and see it again.
That was emotional as fuck.
You kept saying it wasn't emotional, but that was emotional as fuck.
And then on top of that, I stand 10 toes, leave the first time.
She called out multiple times.
Her man was this and that.
You just out of your man to us.
Oh, you don't throw it in his face.
Yeah, you do.
I guarantee you'll do it at home.
And niggas in the chat.
Yo, Chris Lost.
Listen, I'm on Hennessy.
It's fine, man.
Girls be loud, man.
I don't give a fuck, man.
Hey, listen.
That's crazy.
I have some improvements.
I don't know what it is, but at the end of the day, man, she's still single, man.
She has no...
Come on, man.
She starts struggling, man.
I think you guys are taking it far, though.
Like, I'm not trying to be...
I'm talking right here.
You're going disrespectful now.
Wait, wait, wait.
Shh.
Nah, she's doing the most, babe.
She's doing the most.
No, I'm not.
That's crazy.
This is somebody's house.
They told us for- No, not you.
I'm just saying, but it is offensive.
You have to like- You gotta learn.
You gotta have thick skin, baby.
They knew before.
Everybody knew before you got on this podcast.
What the fuck is up?
You have to like wake up and like realize it.
You guys are triggering it, right?
No, she's triggering.
The reason that your podcast is so popular is because you're able to do controversial things and say things, right?
People are going, no, it is, but because you're triggering people's Those emotions, though.
They're getting triggered against me.
Take accountability.
Why come here?
I came here and I studied you guys.
I'm also a TikTok streamer, and I see the bad comments, and that's how I make my money.
You have to ignore that.
It's a controversial kind of thing.
If you get offensive, you're not supposed to.
The thing is that nobody can trigger you unless you are triggered.
Let me be honest.
But you don't have to accept us being disrespected in some of the things.
I'm just being realistic.
Some of the things, regardless of the situation, weren't said in a very respectful manner.
Maybe could have said maybe just a little bit differently.
But if we're talking as professionals...
But why should they have to talk to us?
Everybody, hold on.
For two seconds.
Doesn't matter.
You gotta understand also that we got a show to run.
She took quite a bit of air time.
Okay.
And me and you were having a discussion.
She kept interjecting, trying to explain what you were trying to say, but not really.
Or trying to get her two cents on it.
And it's like, hey, look, man, it wasn't on you.
You've been talking too much.
And that's what she got mad about was because we told her, yo.
And we told her multiple times, yo, be quiet.
Because we're trying to have a discussion over here.
And then we didn't interrupt her when she was speaking at the end of the day.
At all.
Our job is to make sure that we run the show a certain way and give people air time or whatever.
And all I'm trying to do is get to the bottom of what you actually like because you're extremely ambiguous about it and you can't even describe it.
Because on one end you're saying, well I don't want, it's not 1800s anymore, blah blah blah, I'm different.
But then in reality, most women want guys that have traditional values.
Even though you're trying to say that tradition still doesn't exist or women aren't attracted to it, but they are.
And Chad, I won't lie, she was funny as fuck, but she was so single as fuck, man.
So, I mean, my thing is, like, you can't even describe what you like.
Like, you can't even say it.
Please don't be ambiguous.
What do you want in a guy, then?
Okay, if you're just asking what I want...
Come on, man.
I want someone who's, like, obviously educated.
Someone I can have...
Oh, sorry, thank you.
Someone I can have conversation with.
I would say, yeah, you know, I want someone that I can have conversation with that maybe has the same moral values as me, has the same faith as me.
Maybe it would be even cool if we had the same type of career so we can have conversation about that.
You know, but...
I would say, you know, there's different aspects.
I don't know.
Maybe go to the beach together, walk on the sand, hold hands, jump in the water.
Are you being sarcastic?
No, I'm serious.
Okay, sure.
Like, if he's adventurous, no problem.
But I also travel the world quite often, so I would like someone who's able to have that flexible lifestyle as well.
You travel the world?
I've been to 67 countries.
Almost alone.
By sea or by air?
Air.
That's awesome.
It's really exciting.
I think that also helps you when you're able to See different cultures and be immersed in different ways.
It helps you have a lot more open mind towards different things and areas of life.
I really believe that.
Remember, the whole conversation started with men should open up to women, right?
And my argument for why men should open up to women is because men are looked at as the leader.
They're supposed to be the dominant, more aggressive provider slash provide security.
Me opening up to you quite literally demonstrates a lack of security.
Because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
So I'm crying to you like, I don't know, blah, blah, blah.
So I'm pretty much showing chinks in my armor.
And I think as a man, you should never show chinks in your armor.
There's a reason why women say, I want my knight in shining armor.
Like, there's reasons to that.
Women want to be saved by a man who's strong, masculine, and dominant.
By me being vulnerable with you, I effectively destroy that image.
Okay, but like your option C, right?
The one that you just don't, you kind of just like have the man do whatever he wants.
I think that like, what about the aspect, okay, like if he goes and handles it by himself, I kind of feel like, how come, like, it's kind of like hidden.
Like, I want to know what my husband, yeah, like, you don't feel like we can chat?
Like, okay, maybe you're going through that stress, great.
You know, I hope it, like, I hope it comes good from it, but I don't know.
I would kind of feel like...
I want my husband to be fully honest with me, and I'm able to control my...
I can understand where if he was crying all the time, then I'm just like, what the heck?
That's my point.
But why would I even get into a relationship with a crybaby?
That's my point.
But I wouldn't get into...
How do you know...
He gave you a scenario.
Remember, he said third option.
Yeah, but the third option, like, I feel like I'm being lied to.
If you're kind of going and getting a job, not communicating that, like, what if we're, you know, like, your finances are together.
You want to know those kind of things.
Remember, he told you, listen, babe, this happened.
I fixed it.
We're good to go.
No problem.
But just so you know, I solved it.
We don't have to give you a headache.
Thank you.
Yeah, but it's like, you know, but I wouldn't mind if the person got vulnerable because that's just life.
Like, sometimes, you know, but I understand that you don't mind.
But a lot of women will.
So it's better to just handle it based off of the probability of what's going to happen, right?
Like, just because it's possible that you're going to accept, you know...
Me being emotional.
Doesn't mean that the next girl won't.
Majority of the women here at the table said they would prefer to just get it solved and don't involve me.
So if I know that most women are like that, why the hell am I gonna open myself up to liability?
I guess it's just like, I don't know, like when you're dating, you're able to kind of like have that emotional intelligence and maybe kind of...
Do you find emotional intelligence, please?
Because women like to use this stupid ass term all the time.
But it's the truth.
You're able to understand...
What is emotional intelligence?
Like I would say emotional intelligence, you're able to understand like, like just behaviors, the way that maybe they're moving, the way that like they're expressing themselves, but you're able to like understand maybe like...
I don't know.
You're looking at someone, you're able to maybe...
I don't know.
So by your own definition, wouldn't the highest level of emotional intelligence be understanding that women are emotional and erratic and a lot of the times my job is to provide security for them, so for me to show this vulnerability that might affect that image that I'm supposed to provide and might fuck up the relationship?
Wouldn't that be a higher level of emotional intelligence because I could see the chess move coming before it comes?
That it probably isn't in my best interest from a probability standpoint to open up to her.
You might accept it, but seven of the girls here don't.
From a probability standpoint, okay.
Okay, no problem.
So then that's emotional intelligence.
The very term you just used.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
But you're able to take, but not everyone's emotionally intelligent.
Bruh.
Do you think everybody's emotionally intelligent?
That's not true.
I would say, as a man...
But that's not...
There's not...
I've met a lot of not emotionally intelligent men.
And I'm just like, what the heck?
Yeah, we know.
Sitting there crying, right?
And opening up to your girl, I would argue, is emotionally unintelligent.
Because women don't respond favorably to emotional men a lot of the time.
Thank you.
Just because you can tolerate it doesn't mean that a majority of women won't.
Okay.
Right.
So then, shouldn't we move off of...
The probability versus the possibility?
I think you should move off of however you feel.
That's the problem.
But why is it the problem though?
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
And that right there is the quintessential difference between men and women.
You guys get the privilege of being able to move off.
How I feel.
We can't do that.
I don't feel like fucking working.
I don't feel like going to the gym.
I don't feel like going out and making money, but I have to fucking do it because it's my masculine duty.
Women, on the other hand, get the privilege of, I don't want to work.
Cool.
Find a man that will take care of you.
I don't want to go to the gym.
It's okay.
Love your curves, girl.
Women have the privilege of doing whatever the fuck they feel like and not necessarily deal with consequences.
Men, on the other hand, we must strive to get excellent.
And if we don't, we're going to deal with consequences for being losers.
There's consequences for being mediocre as a woman, but there's no consequence for me being mediocre as a female.
So we can't move off how we feel like you guys can.
We can't.
We simply can't.
There is a burden of performance on men, but there is no burden of performance on women.
If a woman wants to go to school and be successful, cool.
We're going to applaud her for it.
But if she wants to be a stay-at-home mom, we'll applaud her for that too.
But that's the difference.
We can't go off how we feel.
You get that privilege.
And this is what I'm trying to say when I say women have zero idea about the masculine experience.
We can't go off how we feel.
We have to go off of what's real and what we must do.
We must go out there and accomplish.
Otherwise, no one respects us and gives a fucks about us.
Well said.
But y'all know, Erin.
Y'all can go out on how you feel, and you'll be okay.
And just to, like, make a little point, I feel like sometimes when, like, earlier you had said you were like, but I don't want a crybaby.
Like, you'll tolerate it, but it is going to eventually run you dry.
I want to marry a crybaby.
I would want another crybaby before that.
But listen to what I said, though.
But you're not going to know until you ask for this vulnerability.
So what I'm saying...
Hold on, let me finish what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is...
Most women that say they want that, eventually they get tired of it.
Like the scenario that he said earlier about the six months of you taking care of him, if that man cried to you every single day for six months, you would be so turned off.
So it's like, we have to be honest about these things that it's just not something that is productive for just whoever, whenever.
So you have to really know who you're dealing with and he has to know who he's dealing with you because you're probably going to leave him.
I want to know if he's a crybaby or not.
How are you going to know that?
Because he's going to be, like, just be his most authentic self with me.
Not in the beginning, right?
But anyone I'm going to date, I'm talking about me, it doesn't, you know, for me, when I'm dating, I want that person to be their most authentic self so I can fall in love with that, right?
If they happen to be more emotional, then okay, you know, but it's just, it's just, I don't know, that's how I view it.
You said you want a man to not lie to you about his emotions and come to you, and you're like, but I don't want to cry, baby.
But there's a difference.
I'm talking about if I go into a relationship and stay in a committed one, I don't want to cry, baby.
But I'm going to know that before I commit to him.
Why would I marry someone?
It's a lifetime long period.
Your IG is crazy right now.
Yours.
Bill, show up, man.
Okay.
Alright, so what man would want to commit to that?
Damn, she's bad.
I mean, hey, hey, hey, listen, man.
Some guys...
Damn!
Girl!
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
And the issue?
Wait a minute.
Don't go to my Instagram.
All right, Bill's gonna score on more.
And then you have a...
Global Food Queen.
Ooh, you're so gorgeous.
And the issue?
Right.
What's the issue?
The issue is...
Yeah, but tell me what the issue is.
I'm creatively expressing myself however I would like, so what's the issue?
But that...
You don't know everything about me, so you're just...
You're expressing your ass.
But who cares?
And I don't...
Like, I'm just doing whatever I want with my life.
But the thing is...
Your husband cares.
What?
You don't have O.S.? No, it's not that my husband cares.
It's the people that I attract and already attract in my life.
I already found them.
But that's the truth.
So, notice, right?
He just saw your page.
What did he do?
Assume about you.
Yeah, I don't care that he assumes.
Like, okay, like, no problem that you're...
But it doesn't affect me.
Like, I move on with my life and I continue with my journey.
But, you know, like, I don't, like, sit, like, okay, now he's making fun of me or he's saying this about me.
Okay, cool.
Like, good for you.
I move on with my life.
Like, you know, like...
I mean, he's not making fun of you.
But I can understand your perspective of a man.
You see a woman posting like that, okay, they're gonna be like, oh my gosh, this or that, because you're a man, but that's okay.
Because you said earlier, right, that you want your partner to be their most authentic self all the time.
That's a lie.
Yes, I do.
Human beings in general are not gonna ever be fully authentic.
They won't be.
And I would argue that women are even less authentic than men are a lot of the times.
But we're all on a journey.
Yeah, but...
You want something that you're not even giving yourself, being your most authentic self.
Are you going to be your most authentic self?
No.
Women wear makeup.
Women wear makeup.
Your photos are heavily edited, clearly.
No offense.
But the reality is human beings are never fully authentic.
You're always going to have things that you're going to keep from your partner.
It is what it is.
It's just a matter of who are you willing to compromise with the most with the little bit of authenticity that they give you.
Okay.
So, it's just not a real thing.
Like, you're kind of speaking in ideals, but the reality is you're not going to get that.
And I would argue you're probably less authentic than your partner would be.
But that's not true.
I've already gotten it.
Where's that man now that was so authentic with you?
You know what?
I can't speak about that online, but that's the truth.
It's not even together.
It's like a life journey.
But these are all your opinions.
Are y'all together or not?
- It doesn't matter. - You're not talking about that online. - I'm sorry, I'm not talking about that kind of stuff online.
I mean, are you guys together or not?
I mean, you said you were single earlier.
In spirit?
No, listen, at the end of the day, I'm not gonna share my relationship stuff online, single or not single.
I'm not gonna share those details.
The point I'm trying to make, simply put, is that you're not gonna get this authenticity that you're talking about.
It's just not real.
It doesn't happen.
and you're not even authentic with your girls.
- So, but I'm not healthy.
- You don't let us get pictures.
Like that's not authentic.
- But I'm sorry, but that's something different.
But you're like, but I'm sorry, but that's something different.
Now you're being rude, but look, but this is, I don't care.
- I'm being honest with you.
- That is me.
- I'm being honest with you.
I'm being 100% honest with you.
You're saying, I want my most authentic partner.
You don't look like your photos, so you're not even off the head.
I'm sorry, you're not understanding the point though.
That looks like her.
I'm sorry, you're not understanding the point, and for you to sit here and degrade...
I'm not degrading you, I'm not.
No, I don't care about your truth or no truth.
It is the objective truth.
Okay, but you're being disrespectful now, because we're not even talking about that topic.
We are.
I'm not out here online.
We're talking about authenticity.
But it's not even authentic.
I'm literally just being myself.
And you're not, like, I don't know.
Oh my gosh.
Did you not earlier say that you want to...
Did you not earlier say that I want my partner to be authentic?
And I'm saying, well, you're not even authentic.
But you're not even...
But you're kind of just, like, taking what you're seeing and running with it.
You put it out there.
But I'm living my life for me, not for you and your opinion.
Go, Queen.
You literally said, I want an authentic partner.
Okay, great, but I do.
But you're not authentic.
But you're not understanding.
So you're demanding something that you're not even are.
But you're defining my authenticity.
You're defining that for me, and you're running with that.
What does authentic mean?
You're allowed to do and post whatever you want.
Hold on, hold on.
You don't look like your photos.
That's an objective fact.
No, it's not.
So that lacks authenticity.
Do I look like my photos?
That's not what we're looking at.
But I'm saying, like, you objectively do not look like your photos.
I literally thought that was someone else on the thing.
So I'm just saying, if you're gonna sit there and say, alright, Amanda's gonna be authentic and tell me what it is and be emotionally intelligent.
And I'm like, we're not even being authentic.
You're not even being authentic, man.
But we're not talking about on that ass, like, at all.
We're talking about emotions.
We're not talking about physical looks.
So you can pick and choose what often to see in your partner?
Yeah, like, it's crazy, bro.
No, you're just...
That's what you just said.
No, I'm not saying that.
You're kind of just twisting what I'm saying and kind of running with whatever you want.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
So what is it then?
I don't understand your question.
So, stupid.
We're going to move on.
Ew.
What an ugly tag.
What?
It's so rude to call someone stupid.
It's not nice.
Stupid.
I don't say that.
Oh, I don't...
That thing.
Stupid!
Look, Chris, relax, man.
All I'm saying is, I just find it interesting that you're saying, I want my partner to be authentic with me, be emotional with me, blah, blah, blah, right?
But you yourself...
I've heard you already multiple times.
I'm not stupid, right?
So I've heard you repeat that multiple times.
Well, I've had to repeat questions to you multiple times because you don't get it.
Okay, so, because maybe I can't hear you correctly because these headphones aren't, like, so good on my ears.
But that's the truth.
We personally tune those headphones.
I know they're loud and clear.
Okay, But maybe you don't know about...
Like, I don't know.
But now I've heard you multiple times and you can stop.
Stop with what?
Yeah, stop, Marge.
Calling out your contradiction.
I mean, like...
No, I'm not.
We're not talking about that, though.
We're talking about men's emotions and being authentic with that.
We're not talking about looks.
And I'm saying...
You're kind of taking it a different way.
You're not authentic.
You demand authenticity from him, but you're not authentic.
That's what I'm trying to say.
But you're not...
It's a completely different topic and we can move on.
No, it's not, Marge.
We can move on.
I don't want to talk to Marge.
He's telling you how I'm not going to perceive you.
I don't care how men perceive me.
I am who I am, and I'm okay.
But you said you want a husband, so you do care how men perceive you.
I don't know, actually, if I want a husband, either.
I'm, like, okay with just being myself.
But you said you want kids.
I never said that either.
So, okay.
So then do you, baby?
Like, I don't.
I'm literally doing me, and if that happens, that's just, like, God's will.
But, like, I'm not thinking about any of those reasons.
That's the truth.
That's just who I am as a, like, a person.
Like, if I have kids, okay.
If I adopt, even more amazing.
There's children in this world that need, like, a mother, and maybe I don't mind.
But also, like, I can, I never know in life, I can maybe convert to being, like, a nun, or maybe someone who doesn't even want to get married.
A nun?
Yeah, but anything can happen in life.
A nun?
A nun?
Yeah.
A nun?
It doesn't matter.
It does matter.
No, it doesn't.
You're getting married twice!
That shit ma'am!
Now you capping.
Now you capping.
You know Mazzy?
But none is crazy.
What's Mazzy doing on there, man?
Oh, Mazzy boss?
If you say so.
You guys are really out of control.
No, we just talked about nobody can trigger you unless you get triggered.
This is a podcast.
We're just talking shit.
All of us are.
I hate them, man.
I'll change topics.
We should change the topic.
Do you like seafood?
Depends.
I like seafood.
It's a setup.
I'm just changing the topic.
We should change the topic.
Do you like the beach?
No, it's a setup.
I feel like at the beach, I could be myself very authentic.
Hold on, hold on.
I can be my true and I feel like, at the same time, you know, running in the water.
What?
Fresh.
Fresh.
- Oh my god. - That's just wild. - Fresh. - What? - I just saw that. - Oh, fresh. - What? - Fresh.
- What?
- Oh my god. - The heck is crazy, bro.
What's going on, bro?
No, yo.
Mario won't tell him, man.
No, I mean...
Wait, what's going on?
Nothing.
Look, man.
We can move on, but like I said before, it's just interesting how she gets called out, and instantly it's like, oh, what the fuck?
No, that's okay.
You know, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's not going to affect me.
You can be like a jerk.
I'm sorry, that's what I feel you're being.
I'm entitled to say that.
I'm not being a jerk.
But that's okay.
This is your show.
You just don't make sense.
That's okay.
It's okay if I don't make sense, though.
We can agree to disagree and still be, like, friends, if you would like.
I respect your opinion.
I literally almost didn't come on here because, I'm going to be honest, people didn't say nice things, right?
But I'm here today, like, challenging myself, doing something different.
And, like, you don't have to be, like, so, like, mean.
And, like, I was told that, like, people needed to come here because people don't want to come because they're scared.
Like, so I don't think that you should continue to treat people this way because it's just not nice.
And we can be a little bit more mindful and nice.
But that's okay.
You can run your show however you would like.
It's not about being mean, it's just about being honest.
That's fine for you to be honest, but you can stop and move on.
You don't have to continue.
I can say mean things about you, but I'm holding my tongue in.
Why would I do that?
That doesn't make sense to do as a person.
It's the truth.
I'm not a bully.
She hasn't really spoke.
It makes sense to say the truth.
If not, how are we supposed to grow as individuals?
Criticism is necessary.
So, I mean, I think that if someone isn't...
Able to come on the show and take hard criticism.
They're not willing to grow as a person.
Okay, but I said okay and moved on.
I don't really care to keep talking about it.
And you guys keep continuing.
Now you're just like, don't know when to stop.
Because you keep talking, that's why.
Okay, so I'll shut up.
So move on to the next topic.
Under the sea.
It's so easy, bro.
Under the sea.
But that's true.
What's true?
No, you guys like the fire too because it makes your show better.
Who's going to watch a boring show?
You just said that you could be a nun.
That's kind of hilarious.
Okay, that's fine.
You can think it's hilarious.
I didn't say that.
You got your titties out on Instagram and you said I could be a nun.
I'm sorry, but Jesus wasn't a nun.
Don't bring God into this.
Don't bring God into this.
Please don't.
I don't even care.
That's so wild that you just said that.
Yeshua was the purest of beings if we talk about...
I don't even want to bring it there, but the point is that...
I already did chats.
That's tripping.
If she is not cute, put her on mute because women are kind of like rocks.
We skip the flat ones and leave the big ones.
What the fuck?
That, uh, date...
What?
What did I say?
Date your boy?
Harami's welcome to FNF where you will get roasted.
She's leaving?
No, I just...
Bathroom?
Damn, man.
Y'all hurt her feelings, man.
What did I do?
First, you said under the scene.
That's a song, bro.
Relax, bro.
All right.
Haramis, welcome to FNF where you get roasted.
Please respect the chipmunks tonight, Myron Fresh and Theodore.
You will be called a pole.
Shout out to the chip...
What?
The chipats.
The chipats.
Angie and Icy.
Question, though, would you consider being a stay-at-home wife?
Raise your hand.
That's a consideration for you.
If you stay at home, wife.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Absolutely.
Yes, please.
Okay.
Vegeta's hairline.
Sub FNF. Daughters of Eve who destroyed Adam.
What's your credit score?
No cap.
Oh, my God.
Hold on.
What's your credit score?
I think it's like seven, seven, seven something.
Stop the cat!
She just came here, bro.
She just got here.
What about you?
What's the question?
A little over 800.
Oh, shit.
I believe her, bro.
I do.
She's intact.
My parents opened a credit card for me when I was like...
That's where it's at.
My parents love you so much.
Big girl left.
That's amazing.
Oh, she left?
Big girl left, yeah.
Y'all hurt her feelings, man.
No.
I was hurt her feelings.
Damn.
Y'all diggers made the big girl leave, man.
Listen, bro.
She ran out of here.
I ain't never seen a big person move that fast, though.
I'll tell you that.
She was gone.
It's not necessary.
She turned to Goku.
Well, am I lying?
She's huge!
Well, to be fair...
Bro!
Nigga!
We wish you're the best!
So, when I bring Gus on the panel, right, and then all of a sudden...
She gone.
Oh, she gone too.
She gone as well.
Left her friend, yeah.
They're gonna cry on the ride back up to Boca together.
Okay, look.
I mean, Chad.
Damn.
When I bring girls on, I don't know what the fuck they look like.
Bro, when I saw it on Instagram, I was like, what the fuck?
Is that you?
What's that?
She said, O's?
Who?
Yo, these girls be catfishing, man.
Come on, Chad, man.
She ain't moved down fast in years.
Hey, man.
All right.
Hey, man.
Under the sea.
Yo.
Niggas put whale emojis in the chat.
Niggas stop free-willing!
Before I got the invitation, I knew who you guys were.
I knew how you handled yourselves.
I'm ready for the heat.
I was ready.
I was like, come on.
I know she was ready.
I was ready.
I agree with 100% of what you guys said.
I was ready for all of you.
Talk about me.
I've been here three times now.
Oh yeah, you already know.
I'll tell you this, you might make a gym membership now.
Oh!
Wait, wait, wait.
So, I had one girl, right?
I coughed fat like months ago, right?
And she's like, you know, Chris, because you, like, you inspired me to lose weight.
Like, okay.
See?
There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's motivation.
We don't tell women the truth enough, man.
And she'll live longer.
And that's what I'm saying, though.
That's how you grow.
Like, if no one's going to say it to you, what are you going to do?
Live a sad life where you're just fat and unhealthy?
Like, I'm sorry.
I'm being honest.
It's true.
No, it's true.
Look at her past photos.
She was skinny.
They start eating food.
Seafood.
And then, uh, yeah.
That's why you brought those seafood.
Well, another reason.
Okay.
No, but, like, I'm not even trying to be rude.
Me and her are the same age.
So, like, taking care of yourself really does matter.
I get told that at the 24 all the time.
So then why did you tell her when she walked on the panel?
No, because, like, what I'm saying is she didn't let me.
I was about to start going.
No, no, no, no, no.
Say it, say it.
I was going to say what I had to say when she was here, but what I'm saying is...
No, no, no, that's why I kept telling her.
I was on her back.
I was on her back.
No, no, it's fine.
But what I, what my biggest thing is that I want to tell like the world is as a woman, we, that, that whole like, oh, love yourself like in any way, shape or form is toxic as fuck.
Like you, you shouldn't love your, like, yeah, your journey, but know that you have to be better.
Period.
Like, if you're 100 pounds overweight, you are 100.
My mentor, like I said earlier, when we started working together, like, I've always been a petite girl.
I got, like, maybe like 10, 15 pounds, just a little more, but you can tell, right?
And he was like, Luli, no.
He was like, this is not what you want.
This is for your career, right?
And I'm over here thinking, like, what do you mean it's a little thick?
You know what?
No.
Because now I feel the best that I've ever been.
I'm in the best shape of my life.
Listen, next time, tell out your face.
Oh, bring her back.
Oh, she gone.
Yeah, she...
Going to the seat.
So then bring me back, and I'll tell another one.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
We'll adjust that.
That's what I came for.
Nigel Goes, "Miron, I look up to you.
I agree with everything you say.
The only thing is that I recently turned to Christ and I know having multiple women is a sin.
And should I do to still be obedient to God but not be a loser in your eyes, I still want to follow you." No, man.
I mean, like I said, bro, just make sure that you're monogamous off of what you want to do, bro.
There's nothing wrong with being monogamous.
I just want to make sure that you do it on your choice.
Hold on, bro.
What?
Nigel.
If you're following God, bro, you can't follow a man at the same time, bro.
Follow God, bro.
Okay.
Girl on the top right in the white, hold this L because you fucked up.
The guy that you left is rarer than you.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And you will never get somebody like that again.
That ship has sailed and now you've been ran through and smell like the bottom of the boat.
The artist that left.
Goddamn.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
The girl...
Yeah, I know.
He's talking about...
She was with the Olympian or whatever.
Miss talk a lot.
Bro...
Man, I guarantee if we called her ex, the Mexican guy that she's talking about, he'd probably be like, man, I don't fucking want her back, bro.
Don't be capping about that shit, man.
They'd be lying, saying like, oh, he want me back!
Shut up.
Who's the artist under Gucci that she's talking about?
I don't know who it is.
Yeah, they're gonna know.
Okay, the girl in the middle that got sexually...
What?
Hold on one second.
What the fuck?
Okay, that's gonna...
Yeah, hold on, hold on.
TV coming back on.
All right.
Girl in the...
Girl in the middle that got sexually assaulted when she was a child and had a lot of trauma.
Anytime girls say they are spiritual, it means they became hoes after being hurt.
The more she talked...
The more she talked...
What?
The worse she got...
Okay.
The black girl with the sing ghetto.
Okay.
I was going to shoot my shot at the one...
Hold on one second.
What's that, guys?
Yeah, sorry, guys.
The TV's acting fucking crazy right now.
Well, this is $5.
Let's not do that anyways.
No!
Okay.
Mina Moves.
Mina Moves, guys.
Ladies, there's a thought.
Instead of OnlyFans, you have one fan, and he makes you his wife and protects and provides for you.
Okay, that's true.
Okay, Mina.
Shout out to you, bro.
Mina Moves.
Mina Moves.
And then it goes, Bills, we might need you to start reading some of these.
I don't know why it's acting up now.
Okay, Cobalt Strike.
Holy crap, never tell the girl with the white shirt and show the pads a secret or your real name.
See?
I'm telling you, bro.
Yeah, that's the vulnerability right there for you.
That's wild.
Perfect example.
She gave all that info on that nigga, man.
Wow.
Yeah, that's true.
That's perfect conversations.
Mo Bibby, hey FNF, love you guys.
Puerto Rican girl is the perfect example of an intelligent female on the show.
Keep shutting them 30, oh, three or fours up with facts.
You should bring her on more.
Okay?
And then we got Cam two times, or no?
No, no, no, we got Rumble Rants.
Rumble Rants?
Yep.
Show it's a rumble.
First thing first.
Oh, okay.
Because it was picking up, right?
Okay.
I decided to support her.
Welcome to you, my friend.
Shout out to you, bro.
We got here.
Hit me up if you need to castle the whale.
I'm a fork.
Oh, shit.
Nigga said move the big girl.
Okay.
Mo, listen.
Chat, $20 is enough from here.
I'll be giving a discount when you say like 50 and up.
Oh, okay.
Ladies, give yourself a rating if you are logically comparing yourself to the other girls on the panel.
Look at the other ladies on the panel.
Rate yourself logically, not by feelings.
Basically, give yourself a humble 1 to 10 rank.
Bro, yeah, we could do the name three countries, bro, but yo, I hate having girls rank themselves, bro, because they always say 10.
No, I don't believe in 10s.
I don't think anybody in the world is a 10 because there's always room for improvement.
If you believe you're a 10, you're just so big-headed.
You need to see the other panels.
Three countries.
We'll start here Yeah Do you want my rate?
No What?
Two countries Tres países In the world Three countries in the world I'm going to say Bolivia You can't say Bolivia, America or Canada Okay, so I'm going to say Italy, Spain, and Mexico.
Okay, good job.
What about you?
India, Pakistan, and Nepal.
Okay.
Damn it.
Not India, though.
Not India.
You're from India.
Yeah.
Name one more.
One more.
Oh, another one?
Yeah, one more.
Afghanistan.
All right.
Of course.
Of course.
She was saying damn as if she was going to say Afghanistan.
Okay.
Come on, man.
Africa.
Okay.
Two more.
Belgium.
Okay.
Where do you want to travel to?
One more.
I would like to go to, let's say, Colombia?
Okay, cool.
Africa's not a country.
Yeah, that's a continent.
I'm sorry.
You're stupid.
What about you?
Geography was not my chance, but let's see.
Indonesia?
Three countries.
Alright, okay.
Two more, you got this.
He said, you got this.
Lock in, lock in.
I know, that's why I'm like, I'm there with it, I'm there with it.
You're Hispanic, man.
I know.
Argentina.
Alright, okay.
And...
Peru.
That was close.
What about you?
Australia, Brazil, and China.
All right.
Okay.
What about you?
Let's go.
Russia, Japan, Iceland.
There we go.
All right.
Okay, good job.
All right, cool.
Where are we at here?
I know.
I fucked up.
304 and XMR looking like she's going to do a rain dance.
L Section 8 behavior from the 304 is me tooth for icy side tooth.
Okay.
Linda, you sitting next to us must mean you want the same treatment as 1829 girls before you.
Tacos, then crib for bedroom fun.
Don't get it twisted.
We don't discriminate.
We regulate every shade of ass from snow bunnies to senorita bonitas to Asian baddies to sexy black queens.
Hopefully, if we play our cards right, we could clap your cheeks and leave you like the girl in the photos.
Are you down?
What the fuck, bro?
What is that picture?
I can't put it full.
That's weird, man.
Jimmy Gambles is the bottom from the Nelk Boys and she's lying about getting a deal from Universal.
Okay, Jimmy Gambles is the bottom from the Nelk Boys?
Yeah, he's my boyfriend.
So they're probably saying he's like the bottom of their...
He's just jealous.
She was very honest about he's still working hard.
And then what was the other one?
They said the chick is lying about a deal from Universal.
That was the musician chick.
Ladies, if you had to fuck one girl and one guy in the room, who would you fuck?
Don't move it on, man.
That ain't me, man.
Wait, Myron, what you doing in Castle Club?
Yeah, that's not me.
I noticed the difference in opinion between Myron and Fresh when it comes to valiance.
This was highlighted during the Gonzalo Lear episode where Myron said he'd rather die a martyr and Fresh said he'd rather stay alive for his family.
I recognize this again after our show and Fresh was telling Suniko he's fighting a fight he cannot win.
Okay.
Well said.
Okay.
Name another producer that's also a niggler for...
That's what I thought.
W. Chris, L304 pedal.
Alright, Chris is a king.
He actually used to be Chris is a bum, but he changed it to Chris is a king.
Oh, wow.
Oh, hey, hey, hey.
All right.
Three thousand cents.
Hey.
First glove down, Jamarco, for your ass.
Second glove from Chris.
Can you straighten your back, please?
Your posture is annoying the fuck out of me and I can't take it anymore.
Thank you for understanding.
No, it says from Mara, not Chris.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was the tech girl that left with her Pfeffrin.
Donna Marco, though.
Donna Marco.
It's a recording artist, ma'am.
You keep oversharing everyone's business on the podcast that you're not going to have any material left for your songs.
Donna Marco.
Yo, sorry, uh, three of the glitches is gone right now, man.
It's what it is, man.
What?
Hey, listen.
Hey, I'm lit, man.
He's in the chat right now.
Okay, they said Ayesha capped about being a virgin.
She got at least eight bodies.
Biggest thought in Illinois.
Wait, what?
That's from Hina Shazad.
Do you have anything you want to say back to him?
Who's Ayesha?
Miss India.
Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, they said that you got at least eight bodies.
They said you capped.
At least.
That's what they said is capped.
Yo, that's minor, though.
Alright, is it two then?
No.
Is it one?
It's one.
No.
Come on, man.
Come on.
No, no capped.
Ayesha, man.
You're...
It's over 9 years!
Okay, that's fine.
Alright, grade 10.
Tell us after.
No, I'm a virgin!
Oh yeah?
Oh my god.
And I'm sober!
Chris!
Chris, you know what?
Chris, you know what?
You're right, and I'm white.
Yeah, yeah, you're white!
Yeah, yeah!
No, no, no!
I'm sober!
I'm anorexic!
Yeah, Mo isn't a badass.
And Bill isn't a nigga, man.
And Myra is short!
Yeah, short king!
Yeah, you go, king!
Yeah, and you're white, like you said.
I'm white, yeah, yeah.
Should we put it on a polygraph?
Do we got time?
Probably not, right?
No, we all got time.
You're lucky, man.
You're lucky that Nigler is ready here.
Okay, for the ladies, have you ever rejected a man's advances and proceeded to watch all of his Instagram stories?
If so, why?
Actually, this is a very good question.
Yeah, have you ever rejected a guy but then watched all his stories?
Because it happens all the time.
You guys want to know what happens.
Has anyone ever done this?
So, in your opinion, why does this happen or have you done it yourself?
Where you kind of said no to a guy, watching all his stories on Instagram.
What does that mean for, you know, that, I want to say, dynamic?
What does that mean?
So, a girl, like, I want to say, send no to a guy, right, and is watching your stories all the time.
What does that mean?
Because you're bored?
Okay.
Oh, like, all the time.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've never done that.
Someone that I'm saying no to, I'm not going to be watching.
So maybe she's bored.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Same.
I've never done that.
Never done it?
Okay.
Who has done it?
Okay.
Why do you watch all their stories then?
I like staying updated in a sense.
Knowing what's going on in their life.
But why?
So he got a girl that doesn't play games.
Then what?
Then what do you do?
Wait.
I'm sorry.
What?
Let's say he gets a new girl that isn't playing games.
Then what do you do?
Then I... Oh, then I probably...
Did you stop?
Yeah, then I stopped.
That's interesting.
But you rejected him, though.
Yeah, I know.
But it's like, you gotta keep your options open, in a sense.
Like, just stay...
Okay.
What about you?
Who's done that to reject him and then keep watching stories?
So, I've never done it, but I think that a lot of women, they'll reject a guy, and then they'll see, like, how good of a guy is, or, like, they'll see that he's living his best life, and they're like, damn, he really didn't want me that much.
Like, you know what I mean?
But...
That's on them.
Like, I feel like that's a fumble.
You know what I mean?
If you have a guy that is interested in you and then you cut him off or whatever and then you're on his back.
Who do you think fumbles more relationships, men or women in general?
Women.
What do you think?
So, I've done it before, and I think it's for, you know, I keep thinking what would have been, what would have happened, you know, the possibility.
So why'd you say no then?
I don't know.
Sometimes I like, I'm just not sure about something.
If I'm not sure, don't do it.
It's a question.
If he DM'd you, would you respond and go out with him after?
Yeah, it can happen.
It could happen.
I mean, if I keep seeing him, I don't know, sometimes I'm not interested in someone and then they just look back and then they move on and then I just, like, regret it.
It has happened to me.
It's not something like, you know, I'm happy about it, but...
Yeah, I definitely think girls fumble relationships a lot, like you were saying.
Like the girl with the wife, for example, she had an athlete, Olympian athlete, she had the guy who was a musician, whatever.
Super fumble.
And she thinks like, oh, I could get another guy or whatever, but what she doesn't realize is like every dude that you get with at that level is going to have other women.
I was going to warn her about that, but I was like, whatever, man.
And that was also rare that she got that many.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that many great guys and that she still...
Because women, what happens with women is they want damn near to make them perfect.
Like, so they fumble every little thing.
They're like, no, I'm leaving, I'm leaving.
I've seen men stick it through.
Like, you know what I mean?
If he's serious, he'll stick it through.
So...
Yeah, man.
To answer that question earlier regarding Instagram, so more often than not, a girl watching stories is kind of like saying, okay, is he actually a guy I want to go out with?
So she's like, you know what?
I said not at the very beginning, but sometimes it's like, let me just watch the stories and see how he is.
But generally speaking, though, if she said no to you, it's probably no for good.
Yeah.
And then they might try to come back, bro.
And I mean, it's up to y'all, but I usually tell them no.
Or I make them feel like, I'm like, why the fuck are you contacting me now?
Like, I'll make them feel like shit for that.
Like, why are you contacting me now?
But then the power's in your hands.
Oh, I just wanted to see!
Like, fuck you, bitch.
Like, yo, like, bro.
Honestly.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Because, you know what?
I look at it like this.
No, I know.
You don't give a fuck.
But for me, I'll look at it like, yo, you know what, man?
Nah.
So you don't do this dumb shit again, you need to feel the burn.
Why the fuck are you contacting me?
And I'll be an asshole about it, too.
Like, why the fuck are you messaging me?
Or sometimes I'll be like, who's this?
Because I'm like, oh, hey.
And I'm like, who's this?
Oh, it's X, Y, Z. I'll be like, why the fuck are you contacting me?
Just straight like that.
And they'll be like, Uh, uh, I just thought I would because girls think it's okay to just come back in after they reject you and it's like, nah, man, fuck out of here, bro.
So I see it as...
So appreciate the next nigga, man, because...
So I see it as the opposite.
I'm thinking, alright, she's talking to a dude.
She might have a boyfriend.
She might have somebody she's talking to, you know, for a period of time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm new to the situation.
Now, granted, doesn't mean I'm going to take it serious, but I'll wait my turn.
You know, I'm going to play it cool, do what I got to do.
Everyone's different.
And then, you feel me, finesse it.
But again...
It depends on the girl too.
It depends on the girl too.
So it's like, alright, it's my turn next.
I'm talking about like thoughts.
Like, I know this bitch is a hoe.
You know what I mean?
You want to come back now?
You know, I'll make her feel like shit about it.
It depends on the chick.
And I'm going to be honest with you.
In your scenario, yes, I agree.
But if a girl rejects you and then you take her back, she's not going to respect you.
If she already rejected you, and then you guys get together, eventually she's going to be like, oh, I got him wrapped around my finger.
Whatever I do, he's not taking me back.
No, no, but you're misunderstanding.
Now she's come back to me.
I have the power.
So I'm a dog girl, and they can move on.
Oh, shit.
So I'm in control.
Spicy.
We don't like those girls.
Okay, okay.
I thought you were going to take her seriously.
No, sweetheart.
No, no, no, no.
I hear you now.
Hell no.
She goes in a sex-only category if she does dumb shit like that, bro.
You gotta punish girls for doing dumb shit like that.
Because it's true.
Women fumble relationships all the time.
They'll be with a guy that was fucking fantastic, but he was too nice.
He was boring.
He didn't make enough money, blah, blah, blah, but he treated her well.
Girls fuck up relationships all the time because they think that there's something better on the other side.
She even admitted, oh, well, I got my options, blah, blah, blah.
But what she don't realize is every dude that you get with that's at that level that makes that kind of money is going to fuck other bitches.
And then they wonder, why am I single?
You're from the bag.
Not only that, man.
She should be happy niggas even take her shit.
Bro, she wasn't attractive at all, man.
Like, keeping a thousand.
Fake hair.
Eyebrows all fucked up.
Out of shape.
Whatever, man.
Hey, man.
It's Puerto Rican.
These girls are crazy, bro.
Annoying, bro.
Niggas that annoying.
Bro.
Okay.
Man, never mind.
Just keep going.
Don't say it.
Just like, bro.
Like, what the fuck, man?
These girls be crazy, bro.
What else we got here?
Yo, that fat bitch was built like a house of mirrors.
Oh my god.
Oh, bro.
Nigga, that one photo?
She had that one headshot?
I was like, yo, that's not you!
That was 10 years ago.
You see that?
Yo, that was not you.
That was one of the girls.
It was literally like 50 pounds.
Oh, Chris, why do you bring girls to the panel?
I watch your IG. Yo, it's tough, bro.
You never know.
It's tough to vet, man.
Yo, imagine you're going on a date with her.
You're like, oh, she bad as fuck, nigga!
Let's go!
Bob is like, yo, shorty's a fat fish.
What the fuck?
Oh, man.
Sorry, I didn't mean that.
Yeah, man.
All right.
Blob, you said that fresh and fair are out of control, bitch.
The only thing out of control here is your diet.
Oh, bro.
Yo.
Yo, that would have been funny if you heard that while she was like, what the fuck?
Loved the credit card on some entry is not a bad thing.
Yo.
Nah, bro.
Don't show that.
Nigga blocked it out?
Yeah, don't show that.
Okay.
Girls, when I told her about take out your shades because it's not the beach, bro, she got triggered, right, girls?
Oh, she had a shade?
Yeah, she did.
She wanted to do the podcast with shades on?
Yeah, bro, she got triggered, bro.
I don't like how you said that to me.
Yeah, bro.
Yo, what was there, man?
And he told her, he was like, if you can't handle that.
I told her, man.
If she can't handle that shit, bro, she is going to be gone.
You definitely warned her.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Sit down, man.
My bad, Fresh.
What I was trying to say was that I follow God, only I worship Him, but I want to also listen to my own teachings, you know, because I highly respect Him, and that's what I'm trying to say.
No, I get it, bro.
No, dude, you can't do both, bro.
Because this is a worldly view.
That's a Christian...
Biblical view.
You can't do both, bro.
Either choose one or the other.
It's not going to be...
And I tell you guys all the time, be religious if you want, man.
I just don't want you guys to get forced into it.
Like, do it because you want.
Alright, what else do we got?
Cool.
That's it.
Oh, for the ladies, have you ever...
No, we read that one.
We read that one, yeah.
I think we're good.
I think we're good.
Alright, ladies, last thoughts.
Alright.
How was the show?
How was the show for you?
Last thoughts, comments.
No, well, thank you guys for having me.
It was fun.
It was something different.
I never done something like this before.
So, you know, it's cool.
And I'm meeting new people since I'm new in the city.
Thank you for coming, by the way.
You're very based.
Thank you.
What about you?
I had a great time.
It was nice discussing different, like, controversial topics that definitely opened my mind in certain aspects.
And then, of course, meeting you guys and having us.
Thank you, guys.
It was a great time.
Question for you.
Your parents...
I think it might be like a white guy.
Oh, that's...
A Chinese guy?
I will say, yeah.
Indian only, right?
Indian only.
Yeah, my parents were arranged marriage.
You gotta be a doctor or an engineer or some shit like that too, probably, right?
They actually want me to get an arranged marriage.
That's really prominent.
They sent you up with a barakat back in India or what?
They tried, but I actually moved to Miami for school.
I'm paying tuition myself too.
So me getting my own education is kind of creating that distance from them because I don't want them to have that control over me.
So you don't want an arranged marriage?
No, I don't.
So, um...
What?
I'll send your edgigram.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
What the fuck?
Alright, alright, go ahead, Bill.
Do it, bro.
Oh, shit.
Oh, it's Haram.
It is.
It is.
I'm not religious.
Haram!
Haram!
Are you a bodybuilder?
Yes, I am a bodybuilder.
Oh, my God.
Bro, you a virgin?
Yes, I am a virgin.
You know what?
I'm sober.
Yo, I've been sober for six months, man.
Yo, Abdul get the rocks.
Okay.
What about you?
It was wonderful.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, it was great.
Are you wifey material?
I am.
Chris, pull it up real quick, man.
Pull it up.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
I ain't gonna lie.
What's so bad about it?
What?
Because I do all my fans?
Myron don't even want to see it.
It's a couple.
Because I do all my fans.
That's why.
So, wait, wait.
So, question, right?
So, question.
Does your man does content with you?
He does.
Oh, shit.
Okay, so is that his, you know, on your mouth?
That was all over your face?
Lotion.
Lotion?
Is it Twitter?
That is.
Yes.
On your Instagram?
No, what?
I could kind of pull it up on the screen.
I do not have nothing like that.
I do not have nothing like that.
We'll be the first to be banned on Rumble.
No, there's nothing like that on my Instagram.
I'm actually...
Not on your IG, but I mean...
Chris, don't put it on the screen, man.
I love my phone!
Don't put it on the screen.
Yeah, but chat niggas, man.
I'm wifey material.
No, you're not, bro.
You are...
I'm not.
I love my phone!
Get the rocks, man.
Okay.
That was a lotion advertisement.
Guys, look at yourself, man.
Lotion, man.
Alright, what about you?
Well, thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
I feel like I manifested this because I would watch you guys' videos and I'm like, I just want to go.
Oh, get on?
Yeah, like we get on here one time for the one time.
But it's definitely very motivating because like I tell you guys, I do my streaming.
I also have my own podcast as well.
So being here and seeing like how big you guys have gotten and kind of following the story from the beginning, I'm going home a different person.
So I'm grateful and thank you guys for more motivation.
All right.
So you're a good sport.
What is the time limit for you to smash some guy that you actually know?
I'm sorry, Papi, I didn't hear the first half off.
Hey, hey, listen, I'm late.
So, what is the time limit for you to smash on?
Papi!
What is the time limit?
Hey, listen, first, you're a host, man.
Relax.
No, no, no, I understand.
I'm doing way better than you, nigga.
I mean, if I'm being honest, I have waited even a really long time because of the guy.
Three months?
No, no, no.
Longer than that.
Like, there was a guy that I was with him for like six, seven months, and he was like, I think he had his stuff going on.
So it was like, I would try to be like, hey, I think I'm ready.
And he's like...
Alright, so here's my advice, right?
What the fuck?
It was like this!
That nigga was gay!
That nigga was gay as fuck!
You know all this, right?
Just smash the guy at 30, man.
Just make it happen, alright?
Puppy, you're lit.
I don't know what you're saying.
You know what I'm saying!
No, I really...
Okay, one more time.
Smash a guy at 30, okay?
Smash a guy at 30?
Like, 30 days?
No, you're 30 years old.
Oh, yeah, what about it?
I'm not smashing.
I'm not gonna just have sex.
I love love.
I really wanna be with somebody like...
Bro, dick, man.
Just fuck him.
Have a good time.
You know why?
Because...
When you get a man to just do that for you, a lot of the times, like, I want to be explored head to toe.
Like, I want you to know me.
Yeah, like, I want to be with a man who's really gonna know what to do with my body and with me.
Pussy and mouth.
No, that's not true.
Yeah, you'd be surprised.
I'm just being honest.
Like I said, with that guy, with that relationship, when it came down to it, he could never get it up.
He could never get it up.
So it's like, I don't want to be in a position where I might get five-minute dick or I might get somebody who doesn't know how to eat pussy.
Like, no.
I'd rather wait and tempt you and tease you and all that.
And you do it for me?
Yeah, because then it's more intense.
Like, when you get me, when you get me, you're going to really get me.
No, but...
Not like a tease that has me, but like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This shit's been 100%, 100%.
This shit's been like crazy as fuck!
Yo, yo.
Shout out to her, man.
Hey, yo.
Okay.
Don't worry about this, nigga, man.
Henny meter's at 100%.
What about you, Miss Future?
Well, stay-at-home girlfriend right now, but...
I had a really good time.
I'm a big red pill content girl.
Oh, okay.
I can tell.
Sweet.
I'm kind of a little shy, but yeah.
You're shy?
Yeah.
Yeah, I had a good time, though.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you for coming.
Last but not least.
You know, the favorite.
I've been here three times.
Wait, three times?
Yeah.
Three times.
So I love you guys, obviously, and I think that...
Oh, love?
Damn, let me live!
Yeah, I love coming on, so...
Oh, coming on?
I mean, come on, man.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Fantastic.
W Show?
Yeah.
And then one last one?
Oh, last one.
Oh, you just got a new one?
All right.
Last one.
I'll read this thing, guys.
Is it on Rumble?
Yeah.
Castle Club.
Bro, it's YouTube.
It's Rumble, man.
Why are you cropping, nigga?
Ladies, how do you feel about high-interest loans?
That's why he's cropping, Mario.
Yeah, why'd you crop it, bro?
It's Rumble, though.
Nigga Mo's a faggot, man.
Come on, man.
You should've just left it.
Okay.
And then Hayden goes, you could fit two chicks in her one spot.
You know who I'm referring to.
Oh, okay.
And a cigarette chick is not making it out the hood.
Y'all lying to this poor girl.
Oh, shit.
Okay, goddamn.
Really fucking cool, you guys, to bring on 50 Cent.
Looks like...
It looks fire in the green top in the corner.
Just like Anthony Mackie said that one time on The Williams Show, you make a daddy a sandwich, let's go.
Alright.
This panel just yapping endless.
A la mayo.
Okay?
And then make sure to subscribe, Purple.
Thank you, Jacob.
Yeah, thanks, Jacob.
Purple.
Yeah.
Cool.
Guys, we'll be back on Wednesday.
Our last show before Vegas.
Oh, last one here?
Peter?
TV just went out.
God damn it, man.
I don't know.
I gotta fucking switch this HDMI splitter, man.
Peter Kong bought the course and was wondering if I only started to bank when I was 30.
Can I still invest with no money?
Is that to the bros?
That's literally what I... Bought the course and was wondering if I... Nah, bro.
You need money to buy crypto, bro.
You need money.
Go on, man.
I mean, you can use someone else's money and buy the crypto and then go ahead and split profits, but yo, you need money, man.
You need money.
Or learn the information, have your friend invest, and then you guys work it out together.
Yeah.
So, shout out to you, Peter Kong.
He trolling, though.
He gotta be trolling.
He donated 50 bucks.
He got money.
Alright, guys.
We'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh and Fit on Wednesday, 7 p.m.
We'll have a Womanizer Wednesday for y'all, and then we'll have a nighttime show, and then we're gonna be out on Thursday to Vegas.
We'll be gone for a bit, so it'll be our last show for a bit.
Later, guys.
Peace.
So far away.
I just ran.
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