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Nov. 8, 2023 - Fresh & Fit

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Rollo Tomassi Meets Couple's Intervention!

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	Thank you.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Fresh Up Podcast, man.
	We're here for the second episode of Couples Intervention with Roland Tomasi.
	Let's get into it.
	Let's go.
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	But without further ado.
	Yeah.
	Some guests in the building today.
	I do.
	Lovely couple.
	Roald Tomasi.
	Please tell us who you are.
	Everybody knows who I am.
	Let's see.
	Roald Tomasi, the author of The Rational Male.
	It's a five-series book, not just one book.
	Thank you very much.
	I've been doing this for about 20-plus years, and you guys ought to know.
	I'm a friend of the show.
	Long-time friend of the show.
	A.K.A. Mark Wahlberg.
	Yeah.
	That's the first thing I said when I saw him.
	All right.
	And yourself?
	My name's Ty Richie, 26 years old.
	I'm a music artist and social media creator.
	All right.
	And yourself?
	I'm Scarlett Vass.
	I'm an actress and social media creator as well.
	And today we're going to cover this couple today, the couple's intervention.
	So I need to know from the very beginning, guys, how'd you meet, how old you are, and what you do for a living?
	You want to go?
	Yeah, you go.
	So I'm 26 years old.
	My name's Taylor Ritchie.
	I do music for a living and also make viral TikTok videos, which are actually, ironically, on every platform.
	So they're not just for TikTok.
	Do you do anything else other than TikTok?
	I do OnlyFans.
	How was that, man?
	I'm blessed.
	Okay.
	Do you make good money from OnlyFans?
	Yeah.
	Alright, awesome.
	And then for yourself?
	Yeah, so I'm Scarlett.
	I'm an actress.
	I've been on various TV shows.
	And then when we moved to the US, we started doing social media, TikTok mainly.
	And we have like 20 million followers now, I think, together.
	Yeah, we get like a billion views a month, we calculated yesterday.
	So it's our full-time job and OnlyFans as well.
	And what other question was it?
	Shout out to my boy Eugene as well for making this happen.
	Shout out to you, bro.
	Eugene!
	Real quick, real quick though.
	What part of our show are you guys from?
	Melbourne.
	Real quick, I heard a little birdie said that you guys are stepbrother, stepsister.
	How does that work?
	What is that?
	Well, we've actually talked about this many times, but as many times as we say, oh, we explained the story, it never gets out there.
	So we can tell you again.
	Do you want to start?
	Yeah, we moved to the US three years ago, and basically we started mingling with other social media creators, and he's like, oh, just pretend you're stepbrother, stepsis in this video.
	For their video, yeah.
	And I'm like, all right, fuck it, we'll do it.
	It's like scripted.
	That video blew up like crazy.
	Because I know it's huge.
	50 million views.
	It's a niche of porn, yeah.
	It's a huge thing, like stepbrother, stepsis.
	Yeah, we didn't even know that at the time.
	They were just like, oh, say this, say that, and we did.
	We'd never done TikToks really before, and then it went so viral.
	So then we went to other content days, and every creator was like, we want them in our videos, we want to copy it, because everyone copies each other.
	So we were like, okay.
	Trust me, we know how people copy.
	I think I had like 10k followers on TikTok at the time.
	Now I have 7 million followers.
	But I was doing like random shuffling videos like I was just doing like the most random shit like just had my shirt off just doing like fuckboy shit and then one day I was like wait why don't we start just run with this and like just keep running with it yeah and then we started doing street interviews and all that stuff and then we just like blew up How'd you guys meet?
	Take us back to the very beginning.
	How old you were?
	The first time I met her, she was actually dressed as a boy.
	Yes.
	No cap.
	Yeah, I was dressed as a dude.
	You guys met very early.
	I got a little bit of your history here before.
	You guys met very early in life.
	Yeah, like 13.
	He was 13.
	I was 14 and a half, 15, just say.
	And I, because I'm an actress, I just did, like, before social media was a thing.
	I wish I did it back then, because I dressed as a boy, and I'd go to the mall, and I would go up to girls and hit on them as, like, a joke.
	And then my friends would film it.
	I wouldn't post it.
	We just thought it was so funny.
	And I'd be like, what's up?
	My name's Carlos.
	And the girls would be like, ah, like, isn't it?
	What is, like, what's happening?
	And it was entertaining.
	So the first time I met her, I was like, this dude's weird as fuck.
	Yeah.
	I shook his hand like, what's up?
	I literally thought it was a guy.
	And then like, literally the next day, because we had like a mutual friend, and like she brought her, and then she was like, oh, this is my friend Scarlett.
	And then she was like, oh, this was actually Carlos the other day.
	I was like, get the fuck out of here.
	Damn.
	I was like, no way.
	And I instantly fell in love the first time I saw her face.
	Did you do like a dry run?
	I used to do it in a mall to him.
	Oh, like act it out?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think that day I was power to be back.
	Gonna put it on.
	So it's like, we call it Aussie muzzer slang.
	What the fuck?
	What's up?
	My name's Paolo, dude.
	What you doing?
	How you doing?
	My name's Paolo.
	Nice to meet you.
	What are you up to today?
	You want to come into my place and play some video games?
	I would love to.
	Yeah?
	And that shit works.
	In Melbourne, Australia.
	Wow.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	So we did that.
	And then he met me as me.
	And he liked me.
	Better than the boy, obviously.
	It's weird.
	I didn't even know what marriage was, the concept of marriage at that age, or what having a wife meant.
	But I was just like, I'm going to marry that girl one day.
	And I lived my single life for like six years.
	You know, sort of friends.
	We saw each other like four or five times a year.
	And I had my single experiences.
	And then, you know, when I was 18, 18 and a half, we worked it out, you know?
	So we were best friends for like so long.
	And he told me he loved me when he was 13.
	But like, because I was like almost 15.
	I was like, oh my God, he's a kid.
	Like he's a kid.
	Like it was weird.
	Yeah.
	Because you're older, right?
	Yeah, like a year and a half.
	And yeah, at the time it was strange.
	So he said, I love you.
	And I was like, oh, that's so cute.
	Like you're 13.
	And then I don't know if we were friends, but yeah, I feel like he really did love me.
	And then, yeah, as we matured and got older, like one day he just kissed me when I was like 19.
	And I was like, whoa, that's weird.
	And then it blossomed.
	So you were friends first for years and days.
	Years, years.
	Like he had a girlfriend, I had a boyfriend for four years in between that time.
	And we were still friends.
	And this is when you were in high school.
	Yeah, we went at the same school.
	Well, I mean, you were like 16, 18, somewhere around there.
	From 13 to 19 was the time.
	So you're...
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	So you mean the whole time you've dated somebody else and he was too?
	How'd you like...
	I wasn't...
	I had like a girlfriend for like five months or like some shit.
	You had one, yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	You know, it's funny because I always hear people say, oh yeah, I had all this experience when I was in high school.
	I'm like, dude, first of all, you were like a teenager.
	And then second of all, it's like, you know, for what?
	For four months?
	The thing is, is that I had my single experience like most 20-year-old Americans live their 20s going out clubbing.
	I lived that from 14, 15, 16, 17, up to 18.
	I was doing dance videos on Facebook, so I sort of had clout, and I would just be hanging with girls every day.
	Okay.
	And that's why I was like, there's got to be more to this shit.
	This is so meaningless.
	Why her over all the other girls?
	And then, come on, man, you still want to smash other girls.
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Come on, bro.
	We're all guys here.
	I mean, guys have a natural desire to procreate.
	I would agree with you.
	But I figured out that once your dick's inside, every pussy feels the same.
	Close your eyes.
	Bro, close your eyes.
	Close your eyes.
	And what I knew I wanted to crave for is a genuine connection.
	Okay.
	Energetic, spiritual, whatever you want to call it.
	Because I'll say on the show, man, the best pussy is new pussy, but I mean, shit, I mean, okay.
	Let me see if I got the timeline right here.
	So you met when he was 13, correct?
	And then you had a girlfriend for, what, four months before you decided that you were going to have something serious with her?
	I mean, that's not the chronological time order of it, but basically, when I was 16, I had a girlfriend for five months, and then outside of that, I was seeing random girls.
	And how many random girls are we talking about?
	I don't know.
	Like, actual...
	Between 16 and...
	18?
	I lost my virginity as soon as I turned 17.
	And from 17 to when we started dating...
	It was about seven months, and I probably maybe accumulated a body count of just over 20.
	In seven months?
	In seven months.
	But before that, maybe there was like 70 encounters that weren't intercourse, if that makes sense.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Am I allowed to say that?
	Let's just go there.
	But, interestingly enough, the first...
	Three months of us dating, like, dude, I was so, like, we were both so in love.
	We were, like, just kissing in the car for hours, like, all this shit.
	Not even having sex yet.
	And I remember she'd be like, please see other girls.
	Like, she was begging me because she knew it was, like, serious.
	She was, like, basically saying, get the fuck out of your system.
	And I was like, nah, I already have.
	Like, trust me.
	Yeah, I was like, please, please, please, like, you know, I'd been in a relationship as well, so I was like, I just knew as soon as we got together, it was gonna be like a lifelong thing, and I was like, we're so young, this isn't gonna work if, like, you just need to, like, go and, like, see girls, and he wouldn't.
	I was like, okay.
	Alright, so let's fast forward when you guys came over to States real quick.
	How old were you guys when you guys got here?
	23, 25.
	Yep.
	24.
	And then, you guys, LA? LA, Vegas.
	Okay.
	Are you going in between the two cities?
	Well, we left LA after like a year and a half and then we moved to Vegas officially.
	But now we're like considering moving to Miami.
	Okay.
	And then going back a little bit more.
	So you guys reconnected.
	You were 19 and she was about 20 years old, 21.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Take us through that.
	So like you guys reconnected.
	What stimulated you guys getting back together?
	You mean after being dormant as friends and then connecting?
	Where did you guys meet and how did that reignite?
	Well, I broke up with my ex at the time and we were really good friends at that point.
	I was sneaky.
	I slid in there.
	I was waiting for her to say she broke up with her boyfriend.
	She didn't even know.
	I planted that seed years ago.
	He was there for me.
	That kind of thing.
	So, were you in communication?
	You were talking to him the whole four years that you were with your boyfriend, right?
	Yeah.
	It was weird.
	Come to think of it, we'd go to the movies.
	What did your ex-boyfriend think of that?
	Did he know?
	Hold on, hold on.
	What did your ex-boyfriend think of that?
	He was like, oh, I was like, he's my little brother.
	And he bought that?
	But no, bro, she's an...
	I'll tell you, she's an angel.
	She genuinely believed like she was doing nothing wrong.
	And I said to her now, like...
	You don't have friends that are males.
	Your friends are my friends, and you see them when I see them, and that's it.
	You know what I mean?
	Now, when you guys were having these casual encounters, right, and she had a boyfriend, etc., to be honest, did you ever make a move on her romantically?
	Wait, sorry, I wasn't listening.
	Sorry.
	When you guys were seeing each other, while she had a boyfriend, right?
	Maybe these movie dates, etc.
	Did you make moves on her romantically?
	Don't count.
	Remember I like touched her hand that time?
	You freaked out?
	Yeah, you just grabbed my hand on something.
	I think I like tried to like touch her hand or something.
	And yeah, she was like, whoa.
	But then he'd be laughing and I'd be like, oh, maybe he was joking.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	He was serious.
	He was dead on serious.
	Okay, so you made advances.
	She might have not necessarily reciprocated at that time, but you made advances and you tried.
	I did, yeah.
	Okay, and then how would you go about...
	Not in a disrespectful way, though.
	There's more text, though.
	You'd be like, I'm gonna lick you, and I'd be like, what does that mean?
	You were just such a child.
	So my thing is, how did you...
	Did you conceal it from your boyfriend?
	Did you just tell him straight up, I'm going to go hang out with Tay?
	Like, how'd you actually, you know, because you're going to be gone for a few hours hanging out with him.
	How were you able to justify or rationalize or explain that to your boyfriend?
	What was your cover story?
	We were friends first, remember?
	Yeah, so it was like, we've been friends since we were 13.
	Like, what, you want me to stop talking to him?
	She had a sweet spot and a half of me.
	Yes, I do.
	She had a sweet spot and a half of me, which she was not conscious of, if that makes sense.
	Oh, really?
	So you would tell him, I've been friends with him for damn near a decade.
	I'm going to go hang out with him.
	Yeah, and he'd be like, oh, okay.
	Like, I'd prefer if he went...
	Okay.
	He was clearly immature.
	He was like, I'd rather you watch a movie at his house than go to the movies.
	What the f...
	But he said that?
	Yeah, I think he said it's a known thing when guys go to the movies with girls.
	Like, they hit on them.
	But I'm like, okay.
	Dude, shit is different.
	What the hell is going on?
	Australia is very different to here.
	So...
	It seems to me that your ex didn't like it.
	He just kind of tolerated it.
	Probably.
	Did you make more money than your ex?
	We were in school.
	Okay.
	But, yeah, my parents were very well off, so I guess.
	Oh, actually, he's where, too.
	I don't know.
	We're in school.
	Did he have to work really hard to get you to be his girlfriend?
	No.
	No?
	Because it was so young.
	Did you like him or not?
	Let's be honest.
	Yeah.
	You did?
	No, I really did.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Even though you were going out with him still?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Here and there, you didn't see me every week.
	We wouldn't talk for months sometimes.
	Sometimes it was like 11 months we didn't speak for.
	That's what I was going to ask next.
	How often were you guys meeting up during the course of this four years that you were with this guy?
	On and off.
	When you got a girlfriend, you stopped speaking to me.
	I did, yeah.
	Yeah, he did.
	And I was pissed.
	So if we were to average it out, how often were you guys talking?
	Every two months?
	I guess so.
	It would be like all the time for three months and then off for like four and then all the time.
	We'd have like random good text combos.
	Two to four times a year, it sounds like.
	You guys would communicate and or meet up in person during the course of your four-year relationship.
	And in that four-year relationship, was it on the whole time or you guys on and off, you and your ex?
	On the whole time.
	On the whole time.
	Okay.
	Question.
	Do you believe now that men and women can just be friends?
	If they're in a relationship?
	Yeah.
	Now I'd say it's not a good idea.
	Right on the fly.
	When it comes to intersexual, Mike and I will disagree on this one, but I have a different opinion than he does in this case.
	Men and women can be friends, but only in a different context.
	Usually I'm going to say men and women can't be friends simply because our framework or our understanding of friendship is usually based on our same-sex friends.
	So you're not going to have the same quality or the same kind of friendship that you have with your bros or girls with girlfriends.
	And so when a guy and a girl come together and they're like, oh, we're just platonic friends.
	We just hang out.
	He's my buddy.
	Bullshit.
	It is bullshit because what happens is guys will start to become the girlfriend.
	And if you've read my book, you already know what I'm going to say, Women have boyfriends and girlfriends, and if you're not fucking her, you're her girlfriend.
	So guys end up taking the role of a girlfriend because women will see that guy communicating to her as her girlfriends do.
	And so her subconscious and her hindbrain kind of says, oh, well, he's communicating to me like a girl, so therefore he's now my girlfriend.
	Whether he's gay or he's straight doesn't make any difference.
	It's just the idea that the way that the communication and the way the relationship plays out We tend to see friendships based on what our same-sex friendships are.
	And so when we have intersexual friendships, usually it's the guy who is sort of the submissive in that, meaning that he's going to tolerate and he's going to accommodate that woman's communication side and do the things that she wants, especially if the guy's interested in her.
	Question for you.
	So he was in a friend zone for the better part of a few years.
	You had a boyfriend the whole time.
	What made you flip the switch and say, you know, I'm going to give this guy a chance romantically?
	Um...
	Besides the opportunity, I guess, that the boyfriend broke.
	Who ended that relationship, by the way?
	You or the ex?
	God, it was so long ago.
	Me.
	I think it was me.
	Yeah.
	For what reason?
	He...
	I don't want to air his dirty laundry.
	It was a great relationship.
	Nobody knows who he is.
	It's fine.
	Yeah, I feel bad if he's watching.
	But he had a lot of mental health issues and I was in, we call it VCE. I don't know what you call it here.
	Year 11, year 12.
	And at one point my mum was like, you have to break up.
	I'd be in the middle of my studies and then he'd call me like, I'm going to jump off a building.
	And it was like a lot for me.
	I tried to stick through it, but it got really...
	Really.
	So he was very emotionally erratic?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So besides your boyfriend being emotionally erratic, leaving him the opportunity of being single now, what made you say, you know, I'm going to give him a shot?
	What also made you say that?
	So, I was very hesitant at first, because I was only single after the ex for, like, what, six to nine months, was it?
	And, like, we were really close, and I was like, oh, well, like, I don't know.
	If I get straight into another one, I feel like I haven't seen the world.
	I don't know.
	But he was just there.
	We...
	Did you jump out of...
	Did you get right out of that and then get into a relationship with him?
	Was there any downtime between the two?
	Six to eight months.
	Six to nine months.
	Nine months?
	Yeah, that's why I was trying to put it off and cease other people, but we couldn't help it.
	I went to Europe, and in that trip I was like, I can't spend a second not talking to this guy.
	I miss him so much.
	Was he a shoulder to cry on?
	At first...
	With my mom and my sister.
	I don't necessarily think you were even, like, upset about your first relationship.
	Because I was pretty annoyed at that point, yeah.
	Yeah, you were just, like, sort of, like, this needs to go.
	Yeah.
	And just so the chat knows, guys, we're going to read, um, call it bills, what, 20 and up?
	Yeah, guys, for this show, um, just because we want to make sure we get through everything.
	Um, just, we'll have them ready, uh, bills will start organizing them and everything, but we'll keep going here.
	Sorry, you guys were going to ask something, or?
	No, real quick, so when you guys actually got together, what was your job back then?
	Okay, I was finishing school, and then basically after school, I played soccer my whole life, so I quit soccer, and then I decided to get into music and manifested moving to LA, all this bullshit, and then I did.
	But from 18 to 21, I was working in warehouses packing milk.
	I would have gloves.
	I'd come home and my gloves stank like mould.
	How much did you make of mould back then?
	This is in Australia, right?
	Yeah, Australia.
	It's $50 an hour, right?
	$800 to $1,100 a week average.
	So let's say $3,500.
	Which is actually not a lot at all, now that I think of it.
	He's making about 50k a year.
	At the time, it seemed like really good money, but now I'm like, yeah.
	Okay, and then what were you doing for work back then?
	I was on a TV show for two years straight, a series regular role.
	Called Neighbours.
	So you finished school, you just went to a TV show?
	No, I finished a college degree and then like a week later I landed this show and went straight on.
	How did you get casted for that?
	Well, I've been acting my whole life and I was auditioning throughout my college degree, you could say, and then I landed it.
	Like six weeks of auditions to get in.
	What's the show about?
	It's a soap opera.
	It's like Australian, Bold and the Beautiful, and it's big in the UK. Okay.
	Huge in the UK. Huge.
	Like Margot Robbie was on it, Chris Hemsworth, like, I mean, I think Chris was.
	No, he was on Home and Away.
	Oh, same thing.
	How long did you do that for?
	Two years, I was on that.
	And in the meantime, trying to get my papers to be able to come here, to act over here.
	So this is, I'm going to assume, this is when you guys got together, so you were around 20 to 21 when you did this?
	Yeah.
	And then you stopped around 23, 24?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then you said also, after you broke up with the first guy, you were single for six to nine months.
	What did you do in that period of time?
	What was I doing?
	Was I in college then?
	Europe.
	I went to Europe for three weeks with my mum and my sister.
	Finding myself in Europe.
	It was winter.
	It was like a family trip.
	It wasn't a crazy let's go single trip at all actually.
	But yeah, I went there for three weeks.
	And was I in college then?
	I think I was.
	Transitioning.
	No, yeah, you were.
	I was in college, so I was studying.
	And yeah, partying with friends.
	Lots of partying with friends.
	I dyed my hair purple, I guess I went.
	Okay.
	Where'd you travel to when you were all over Europe?
	Yeah, just Italy and London, a couple other places.
	Okay.
	Were you seeing anyone casually throughout those six, eight months?
	I kind of saw one guy, but that was it.
	One.
	One?
	Yeah, I swear.
	Okay.
	Which I knew of at the time.
	I was like...
	Yeah, he even knew.
	How do you know?
	Oh, I'd tell him everything.
	Yeah, I was like super...
	So you guys were talking...
	Yeah, because we weren't exclusive yet, you know?
	So you guys were talking...
	So you're back in Australia at the factory.
	No, no, no.
	Wait, what's the timeline here?
	We're talking about when you first got together.
	She's around 21.
	You're 19 years old.
	She's pretty much finishing up school, broke up with a guy.
	Looks like maybe you guys reconnected a little bit in Australia.
	Then she left for six to nine months.
	No, no, no.
	She only went for a couple weeks to Europe.
	Okay, so for that six to nine months, I was in college.
	You were in college.
	And then hanging out with friends, hanging out with him still.
	Okay, so you guys were seeing each other, but while you were in Europe for a few, you said a couple weeks?
	Yeah.
	You guys were communicating.
	Oh yeah, like all day.
	And he was working at, you were packing the milk, and then she was doing the actress thing.
	Yeah.
	And traveling.
	Yeah, like when I was in Europe, my mom and sister were like, oh that bartender's so cute, he wants to ask you on a date, and trying to set me up.
	And then I would just be calling him all day, like it couldn't help it.
	Okay.
	Question.
	What's your ethnic background?
	Sri Lankan and Serbian.
	Okay.
	Sri Lankan and Serbian.
	What religion does your family practice?
	They're not really that religious, but Catholic and Orthodox.
	Okay.
	Probably more Orthodox.
	Who's Sri Lankan and who's Serbian?
	Mom's Sri Lankan.
	Dad's Serbian.
	Okay.
	And then your parents still together?
	No.
	Divorced?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How old were they when they divorced?
	I was seven.
	Okay.
	Who did you live with mostly?
	Your mom or your dad?
	50-50.
	Okay.
	50-50, like every, like...
	It was like four days, three days, and then my dad, who had us three days, also had us every second weekend.
	So it was literally 50-50.
	So I'm assuming your parents lived close to each other.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Then what about you?
	My parents?
	Yeah, like your ethnic background.
	So, my dad's Italian, my mom's Greek, and my parents are together.
	They've been married for 36 years or something.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, they're amazing.
	Love story.
	And then you said that your family's well-off.
	What does your dad do?
	He has a lot of companies.
	I love how you say dad.
	Well, I already know.
	Let's be honest here.
	My dad has a gloss company.
	Like, he does shower screen, splash bags.
	Everything to do with gloss you can think of, he can make it.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Did your parents have a lot of money growing up?
	No, so I had a very humble upbringing.
	I lived in a very simple house, was raised with love and respect, dancing in the morning, playing soccer in the driveway.
	Was your father a blue collar worker?
	He had his own company with another business partner, which was doing pretty well.
	I can go into the whole story.
	And you have brothers and sisters?
	I have two older brothers, so one that's five years older and one that's eight years older.
	And you have at least one sister, I know that.
	Do you have any more?
	No, just one.
	Older?
	Older, three years older.
	And then you guys, so you guys come to the United States together.
	We went over that, how you guys did the whole stepbrother, stepsister thing, got 50 million views, started a blow up in that regard.
	I want to cover the show, back to the show part.
	To me this is interesting.
	So she's on the show, you're working a regular job, two years.
	Were you talking in that period of time?
	Yep.
	And do you like her being on the show?
	I was so happy for her like obviously this is we would we would talk about our dreams like every day and this was like a huge opportunity so obviously I was ecstatic um a part of me someone said dude we're in gay what's up But no, I was extremely happy.
	But apart from those little discrepancies, like, you know, sometimes the role, which is why the acting industry sort of sucks, because there's a lot of, you know, over-the-top sexualizations on people who make, you know, Instagrams, do OnlyFans, all this, but in the acting industry, there's more of that, I feel like.
	So did you see her do scenes where you were like, yo, what the fuck?
	Yeah, like, I had to, like, watch her, like, kiss other guys.
	Like, I'd be there and, like, fucking shake this guy's hand and be like, okay, this is fucking weird, but I guess this is acting, right?
	You know, like, it's professional.
	And this is for the soap opera, to be exact, right?
	The Bold and the Beautiful.
	And I did another show as well, for ABC Channel as well, and that was an intense role.
	What was the name of the show on that one?
	The Warriors.
	Okay.
	And what was your role on that one?
	It was about football players and I was like the one night stand sort of girlfriend thing.
	Okay.
	So you were, okay.
	So obviously they probably put a sex scene in that show?
	Yeah.
	For you?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	With Chris Hemsworth.
	Then I wouldn't be upset.
	So, okay, so, I mean, if it's a TV show, they probably, like, edited it.
	It wasn't, like, full-on.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, but in that scene, okay.
	How did...
	Did she talk to you about that before she did that scene?
	Or are you guys not together at this point yet?
	No, we were together.
	For, like, what, two years, three years?
	Were we living together, or were we just, like, dating in different places?
	Living.
	Living, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, did she tell you about that scene?
	She did, yeah.
	I think we were both, like, dreading it.
	She's like, oh, this is going to be so awkward.
	And, bro, it's so weird because at the start of our relationship, I was actually, I don't even know how, but I was so chill.
	I was like, ah, who gives a fuck?
	Like, whatever.
	I was more worried than you.
	Yeah, but now, I would never let that slide.
	Is it because you weren't where you wanted to be financially?
	To be honest, if you had money, would you have thought of it?
	This is the thing.
	I do think that having money, it doesn't make you a man, but I think it does open up your mindset.
	It certainly helps.
	It definitely helps.
	So at the time, she was the breadwinner at that point?
	In the relationship?
	Definitely.
	Were you guys still filming stuff together, trying to get that...
	I mean, you were getting views at this point, but I guess maybe the money didn't start hitting yet?
	We weren't doing social media.
	We were not doing social media at all.
	He was packing milk.
	Okay, you were still...
	That's it, though.
	I would be recording music all day.
	So you're still in Australia?
	Yeah, in Australia.
	I'd play video games, whatever.
	I was that loser.
	I'd be packing milk, and she'd be at a show, and that was basically it.
	And just to be clear, this was filmed in Australia, this television show, right?
	It was filmed in Melbourne and everything, so you guys were still seeing each other every other day or whatever?
	We lived together, yeah.
	You guys were living, okay.
	Rolo, can you break down how that is, for example, for a guy on the way up, having a girlfriend?
	Well, she's carrying him right there.
	I mean, you're a year and a half older, and he's packing milk.
	And playing video games and playing music.
	Nothing wrong with that, I'll give you that.
	But he's not where he wants to be, right?
	So as we've said before, men must become and women just are.
	So this is really a good example of what you guys always say and what I've always said in my books is that it takes longer for men to mature into becoming like what their maximum.
	You know, you're still only 26 years old.
	You still got at least another 10 years.
	Right.
	It it takes longer for men to become to maximize their potential than it does for women to maximize their potential.
	So like, well, you're not on the show anymore.
	Right.
	So you're gone.
	So.
	So, well, I mean, but yeah, I'm not.
	It's not not to devalue anything, but like that's how old were you when you were doing that?
	Twenty three, twenty four.
	22, 23, yeah.
	Okay, so again, peak sexual market value.
	She's at the top of her game.
	He's being, you know, carried by her.
	And now I presume things have changed, right?
	So he's, I mean, just looking at the watch and everything else, I presume you're making more money than you were when you're making milk, when you're packing milk.
	So clearly you've come quite a ways since then.
	So you would have been, what, 20, 21 back then?
	Exactly.
	So from 20 to 26, you're where you are right now.
	So you keep going, and really all it is is just a confirmation of the fact that men must become and women just are.
	So it takes longer for men to mature into their maximal potential.
	Hopefully you do realize that.
	There's probably, you've got a long way to go.
	But there's that moment where, like, when women are carrying that guy, and that's...
	It can be pretty dicey right there, especially if she's in the kind of position she's in, or she's an OnlyFans girl, or she's a stripper, or she's an actress, or she's anything that is in some way eroticized or sexualized, that's going to be even tougher, especially when you're making a lot.
	There's no way him at that age packing milk is going to make anywhere near the amount of money that she is.
	And so it's like, sometimes it's like, you either got to be really, really determined to kick ass, or else you're just going to sit there and play video games and sedate yourself.
	Okay, so you're doing an acting thing or whatever.
	At what point did everything shift and then you started to take on the breadwinner role?
	Or at least matched up to her.
	When did you start doing OnlyFans?
	Well, I won the green card lottery, which is the diversity visa program.
	That is tough to get, bro.
	So when I got that shit, I was like, okay, I know we're meant to go.
	And then, so we, I was going to LA. We were going to LA together for like three years on and off.
	Like on and off, on and off, on and off.
	And I would like work at this warehouse job while she's on the show.
	We'd go for two weeks, then she'd go back for like a month.
	I'd stay for a month and like try to make connections with people.
	Yeah, I forgot about that.
	We were separate.
	We did like three times and then I would come back, save up more money, like save up like 20 G's.
	It takes so long back then.
	Yeah.
	And then fucking fly back and then whatever.
	But we, what was the question?
	No, I was going to say, take us through what led you to start making money then.
	And you're talking about how you were traveling back and forth.
	So you're going back and forth.
	You got a green card.
	You won the lottery.
	You petitioned for her to get a green card.
	Well, she got it through a show, Extraordinary Visa, whatever.
	Okay.
	Oh, Visa or something?
	No, Extraordinary Talent Green Card.
	A lot of actors and athletes get it to come over and shit like that.
	So you're going back and forth, you're saving money, going to LA, going to Vegas, making connections, going back, making more money, saving, and then she's going back with you periodically when she can, and then she's also acting and doing her thing in between.
	I think six weeks breaks.
	He'd be in LA for six weeks without me as well.
	And we were like, fine.
	It was sad, but we were fine.
	Yeah, I hated it, honestly.
	So then it was 2020, COVID happened, and we're like, Australia was shit.
	We've got to get the fuck out of here.
	I saw my life becoming like, just going to the fucking garbage.
	And for the audience, just so they know, in Australia, no one could come in or go out during that period of time.
	So at that point, did you guys just leave for good?
	We left for good.
	When we were allowed to get out of the country, it took a while.
	We had to go through military escorts through different ports of Sydney just to get out of the country.
	Locked in hotel rooms for days.
	It was crazy.
	Once we got to LA, I don't know, bro.
	It's like everything I was manifesting my whole life just started coming through.
	What was the pivotal moment?
	What did you do that created that revenue stream that finally put you on an equal playing field with her?
	Before we left, I had an OnlyFans account when I was sort of finishing the show because I genuinely thought it was for fans of celebrities.
	Who would talk only fans.
	I think that's what it was made for.
	She would always tell me, you should get on this.
	I'm like, what the fuck is this bullshit?
	Yeah, and I was like, and they genuinely, my fans from the show, would just pay to chat to me because I was like famous, you know, like, oh yeah, and I was making, like, not much, like $1,000 a month, but like, I just thought that's what it was, so I had it there, and I kept telling him to make it, and he hadn't made one yet.
	We came and we had it, but we didn't really do it.
	It was just sitting there.
	We didn't really know how to run the accounts.
	Because you can have OnlyFans, but you can not make money very easily unless you know what you're doing or if you know the formula.
	And so we got here.
	We started working this bar job.
	And it was the only place open in LA at the time.
	It was called the Berkshire House.
	And it was the it spot.
	And I'd never worked at a bar before.
	And then I got him the job.
	And we were making crazy tips.
	Yeah, we were like a power team.
	Like thousands and thousands of nights.
	You were a bartender and you were, both of y'all bartenders?
	I actually, there was no male bartenders or waiters or whatever.
	I was doing the running shit.
	Yeah, and then my friends were like, but he's so hot, can't he serve bottles like the bottle girls?
	And they were just like, no, but all the girls loved him.
	And so he got the bottle job too.
	So we're both serving bottles and he'd do the girl tables and I'd do the guy tables.
	So then at that, when we were at this job, As soon as we moved to LA, we basically got this job after a couple months, and we were making sometimes like 9k cash every weekend together.
	Yeah, it was fucking bad.
	But at the same time, we had our social media and we had OnlyFans, but it wasn't until we went to this content day, that day that that video went viral, that we said, well, if we're going viral on everyone else's channel, why don't we try it ourselves?
	This is the sepsis or sepbrother one?
	Yeah.
	50 million?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then we went on everyone's channel and every time we'd go on someone's channel it just blew up.
	So it might not be a coincidence, it might be us.
	So we created our own and we went out one day and we started interviewing people on the street, both of us, and from the second we posted that first video each, That was it.
	It was like our thing, yeah.
	So then we were doing that.
	We'd film for like four hours a day.
	We'd go work at the night job for eight hours.
	We'd go home at 3am.
	Go to sleep.
	Wake up.
	Like, go work out.
	And then just do it all on repeat.
	We did that for like six months.
	Working day and night, yeah.
	And then by the time we were working...
	I think we were working at the job for five months.
	Yeah.
	And then we were doing OnlyFans this whole time.
	They were at the job.
	And I think at the time I was earning like 15k a month.
	And then we both were.
	We're like, should we quit this job?
	Like, is that enough to quit this job?
	And we're like...
	We're like, fuck it, yeah.
	Let's just do it.
	Maybe we'll make more if we quit.
	We didn't know if we could make more.
	And then when we quit, we just went crazy.
	Then it became social media and OF. 15K separately or by yourself?
	15 separately.
	I was more on five.
	Then this is from the bar.
	No, no, no.
	That was on OFY at the bar.
	Oh, while you were at the bar.
	He was making more of an OF. That was in the background, you know?
	Okay, okay.
	I wasn't even taking it seriously.
	I was just, like, just posting videos, going to work.
	He had some people, like, give him, like, ideas of how to do it, and he was making 15.
	I was only making five.
	I didn't know what the hell I was doing.
	No, I had no idea.
	Is that the first point where it finally shifted, where he was making more than you, pretty much, in the relationship?
	Yeah, for that period of months.
	Wow.
	Okay, and this is in 2020, 2021 at this point?
	Two and a bit years ago, so yeah.
	2021.
	So that was the transition.
	That was the transition.
	And then you guys continue to make content, street interviews, OnlyFans, you quit the club or the bar at this point, full-time on social media, start and you're able to scale up, make more money, and then you guys decide to get married.
	We got married two months ago.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	Two months ago.
	Yeah, in Mykonos.
	Okay.
	Did she pressure you to get married?
	I would say it's a woman's, probably, direct, like, a very direct inclination to want to rush a man.
	But I would say it was always under my discretion.
	I don't think I've ever brought it up, though.
	I mean, I could tell you wanted to, but if I was like, we're not getting married until 15 years after, she would have waited.
	But for me, I knew I always wanted to marry her, but I wanted to delay the process as much as possible because I wanted to enjoy her as my girlfriend.
	You know what I mean?
	Like at the right time.
	Did you guys get married here in America or did you go back to Australia?
	Oh, in Greece?
	I mean, like the paperwork.
	We did in the US. We did in Vegas like two weeks ago.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	So you guys had the ceremony in Greece, but it's official here in the United States through Vegas.
	Yeah.
	You guys went to the courtroom.
	Religious ceremony in Greece and then yeah, legal here.
	Legal in Greece at the time and then here.
	Okay.
	So what is like the main, I guess, now that we kind of understand somewhat like a summary of your history and everything else like that.
	What is the main contention, I guess, for your guys' relationship where you guys have disagreeable points?
	Issues.
	Can I clear one thing up?
	What are you guys doing on OnlyFans now?
	Do you want to subscribe?
	No, I don't.
	The girls on Access Vegas ask me the same thing.
	Do you want to subscribe?
	No, I don't.
	Just so I can clarify what your relationship dynamic is.
	Well, I'm never on his because of his demographic.
	I don't think they'd want me on there, really.
	That'd be weird.
	Wait, wait.
	Do you sell feet pics or something?
	No.
	His demographic is going to be homosexual men.
	Yes.
	That's why.
	Yeah.
	The only thing that propels a male to subscribe to a male or female is testosterone.
	So, no female, I have maybe 5 or 10% females, but no female is going to subscribe to a man because they do not have testosterone.
	Do you know what's crazy?
	They don't want to come like that.
	He was making more than her at the beginning.
	That's wild, bro.
	Yeah, like I said.
	From gay dudes.
	What the fuck?
	Well, I mean, he's...
	Apparently, I look gay.
	I don't know.
	Well, he's relating something that, like, Sterling Cooper has said before.
	It's like, you know, Sterling is very much heterosexual, but, like, when he does Only Fans Read...
	Well, when he used to, anyways, when he was...
	Because he's a porn star, right?
	His...
	Got him a very strong male following, and he's like, you know I'm heterosexual, right?
	But that's the...
	But that's where the money...
	It is.
	Damn.
	And gay dudes have way more expensive income than most other social men.
	That is true.
	That's true.
	They make more money.
	Do you know why that is?
	Because I believe that's true.
	Because they don't deal with women.
	Yeah.
	I actually had a conversation about this with a guy who was gay.
	And he was telling me...
	He's with value.
	Shout out to him.
	I forget his name.
	Nice guy, though.
	He was saying how...
	An average gay guy versus an average heterosexual guy, the average gay guy has a higher net worth.
	But when you think about it practically, it's like they don't have to worry about dating women.
	They're just getting on Grindr.
	The whole dating process is way cheaper, way less investment.
	And if they do go and date, typically things are going to be 50-50.
	They're able to focus on work more.
	They don't have children.
	The pressure of having a family.
	All these things drain you financially, so they don't have any of those things.
	If you look at all the major cities, like the nice areas, that are affluent, that cost a lot of money to live in, dominated by gay people.
	Miami Beach, Austin, Texas, San Francisco, New York City.
	All the places that are going through gentrification, from a real estate investor perspective, too, for me.
	Anytime gay do start to move into my neighborhood, I'm happy, because my property value is going to go up.
	Because they're good tenants.
	So less expenses and less time to waste on women, basically.
	Yes, because women typically are liabilities in most situations.
	When I was working in wine and spirits, when I was working in the liquor industry, the homosexual market was a completely different animal than if you're marketing to women as well, because homosexuals have more disposable income.
	So you can do top shelf brands to homosexual markets.
	Yeah.
	I want to see what the chat's saying real quick.
	Yeah, we can read the chats and everything else like that.
	But yeah, no, they just have more expensive income, man.
	It's just a fact.
	Let's see here.
	We got...
	Okay, Derek the Trader goes...
	Fresh, can you read this real quick?
	An off-model slash twit streamer named Amaroff recently launched a beer made for her vaginal yeast.
	The mother of simps that allowed this to happen must be legendary.
	What do you guys think?
	Wait, what?
	I don't get it.
	I love how it's allowed this to happen.
	No, they caused it to happen.
	I told y'all Sims fuck everything up, man.
	That's weird, bro.
	Yeah, Sims fuck everything up, bro.
	You should know that.
	What else we got here?
	Oh, my days.
	Oh, my days.
	FNF team and Rolo, what's up?
	Shannon Sharp told Ochocinco he would rather choose OF Miss Nasty B instead of a 39-year-old virgin actress, Yvonne Orch.
	As high-value men yourself, could you break this down?
	His thinking behind this?
	Thank you.
	Not on today's...
	Maybe on another episode, my friend.
	I don't know who these people are.
	We want to stay focused.
	Respect to you guys and all that you do.
	What message do you have for my brother who takes back a chick after she cheated?
	He's an idiot.
	Very simple.
	Like, why?
	Yeah, why are you taking back a woman that cheated on you?
	You're optionless, that's why.
	I cannot wait until you smack the taste out of a particular YouTuber's mouth, but until then, can you please touch up on Tyrese and Samantha Lee's situation?
	She's giving dating advice after she apparently did them dirty.
	Big up my way, big up, Rolo.
	We'll probably cover the Tyrese situation on another episode, so don't worry, guys.
	She needs money, bro.
	That's what it is.
	She needs money now.
	She needs money, yeah.
	She's realizing that she's fucked up.
	She's sorry now.
	I know what the problem is.
	She want to pull a length, lean on the plug, and get drilled by BBC on Cam to take her career to the next level.
	Sorry, TikTok boy, but my boy Fresh gonna help your girl with that.
	What's that?
	A while back, you said that you would never have lesbians on the show ever again.
	What the hell is up with tonight?
	One time exception?
	This guy.
	Talent skill, mindless fucks.
	Who chose this bullshit, Maren?
	You better be charging up.
	Protect Maren at all costs.
	Hey man, bro, you gotta listen.
	Screen the couple's better.
	Obviously, a cloud chasing couple here.
	It's a farm.
	The Sims to sub to their OF. I genuinely believe there's no man that considers a woman's wife would do OF with her.
	L, we're gonna have a discussion on that.
	Dude, we just said that the gay guys are watching this OS. Yeah, that's what it is.
	Okay, so, and then Twitch?
	Twitch.
	What about Twitch?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Kill Twitch, Facebook.
	Guys, come on over to YouTube and Rumble, man.
	Fresh to Fit on YouTube or Rumble.
	Rumble.com slash Fresh to Fit.
	Okay, so, yes.
	Okay, so you guys, what is the main, I guess, thing that causes issues for you guys?
	Obviously, you guys are in the limelight.
	You guys are pretty famous.
	What causes issues for you guys?
	Does OF ever mess up your relationship or have issues that come up?
	I think without communication and without goals, just clarity, it would, but it doesn't.
	Yeah, as long as we're communicating all the time.
	Nah, not at all.
	I would say no.
	I would say the only way it is detrimental to us is that we work too much.
	And we're always like, what did you sell today?
	How did you word it?
	What was the price?
	Let me learn off you today.
	Film this, film this.
	Can you film this for me here?
	Just maybe not relaxing so much, always...
	Being opportunistic, I guess.
	So her demographic is guys.
	Do you see her chats with the guys and videos that she sends or no?
	Yeah, we laugh at it.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	Would you give up your OF and your social media platform for him?
	If he wanted me to, I don't think he'd ever say it, but if he...
	If it really came down to it, and we had to, or it was really going to affect the relationship, yeah.
	Especially now.
	I mean, we've made enough.
	It'd just be great at that point.
	I'd rather him over money, so yeah.
	So, I'm just curious.
	Are you cool with guys looking at her in that way?
	I believe that males...
	Sexualized women based off their insatiable thirst that they have and they place...
	Agreed.
	Yeah, they make women be inquisitive because of women start to realize what they can get from a man and they're like, oh, this is cool.
	Honestly, I would rather...
	This is what I think.
	She's sexy.
	I'm sexy.
	We're on a platform, and if people want...
	People are going to sexualize us regardless.
	Like, if she walks down the street, people are going to hit on her.
	And I'm cool with that.
	And there's complete trust in that area.
	So, it's not a problem at all.
	Has things changed since, like, you've only been married for, like, what, two months now?
	Yeah.
	Has things changed, has a dynamic changed since you guys are now, like, you know, official?
	No?
	I forget.
	I feel like it's the same, but what do you think?
	I think it's exactly the same, like, our routine and, like, what we do with each other and whatever, but I feel like, in my head, I'm like, okay, I want to start a family with her.
	You know, we both want to start a family.
	So when we do that...
	I would prefer for us, I feel like, yeah, I think we're done with OF. It's like not something I want to be doing as a father.
	You know what I mean?
	Or it's not something I would want her to be doing as a mother.
	So is she gonna give it up and you're gonna just continue to be the...
	I'm assuming, are you the primary earner right now or you guys split everything 50-50?
	We have bank accounts together.
	We earn the same.
	If she gave it up, would you guys have to decrease your...
	How do I say this?
	Level of living?
	If she were to drop everything that she did and you would just rely on your income?
	For the past two years, we've accumulated enough for it.
	We don't have to work for the rest of our lives.
	You're both on OnlyFans, correct?
	Now, you said that when you started OnlyFans, it was because you're a celebrity and people want to talk to you.
	Has that OnlyFans content changed since then?
	Are you now more sexualized as a result?
	Yeah, it definitely progressed.
	It's not necessarily the more you do, the more money you make.
	It can, but we study this.
	It's a formula.
	It really is.
	And so we started an OnlyFans agency, Cream the Agency.
	We have people who make more who do less than those who do porn.
	I don't necessarily do porn, but I do make more than those who usually do.
	So it's not necessarily...
	She's talking about those full-blown porn stars you've seen.
	They're making that ahoyego phase.
	They've got cum dripping out of their mouth and shit.
	So this is kind of a unique situation because usually when I'm talking to a married couple and they both do OnlyFans, they have one OnlyFans account and they're fucking each other on OnlyFans as opposed to having two separate ones and then you have a different demographic than she does, most definitely.
	So that's why I was kind of curious about that because if you both have...
	OnlyFans as your primary source of income, if one of those goes down, does your lifestyle then change as a result of that?
	Can I answer?
	Yeah.
	We live a really humble lifestyle.
	I can tell.
	I went through this whole phase when we moved to the US for four months.
	I was meditating, doing breath work, having cold showers.
	And I was just like, fuck.
	This is the first time in my life I'm...
	Because I still technically was broke.
	We had like 50k each that we saved up.
	This is the first time in my life I'm actually happy.
	To have nothing.
	I don't have any desires, no cravings, no attachment, you know, to money, to my music career, anything.
	And that is when everything started coming, and then money's just like, oh, now it's a bonus.
	Like, oh, I'm gonna buy a nice car because I can.
	It doesn't provide me internal happiness, but, you know, it's fun to drive a fast whip.
	But if I don't have to have it, I'm cool, you know?
	Who's the primary decision-maker with anything serious?
	Yeah, I would say her.
	Is there anything that she does that bothers you?
	Be honest.
	Bothers me.
	Sometimes when I'm in the shower and she's in another room, she'll ask me questions thinking I can hear her.
	I can't fucking hear you.
	The water is right next to my ears.
	What'd you say, babe?
	And it gives me anxiety, bro.
	What'd you say, babe?
	I can't hear you.
	I'm trying to decipher the words.
	You agree?
	Mike is like, yeah.
	Bro, that pisses me off.
	Mike is like, holy shit.
	He's getting flashback.
	He's like, no!
	Damn it.
	He's like, you're a good listener!
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	Okay, so she's the primary decision maker for anything serious.
	Would you say she also leads the relationship as well?
	I wouldn't say primary decision maker.
	I would just say that I'm not going to make...
	She or me is not going to make an informed decision without the other person's opinion.
	Of course, of course.
	But there's got to be...
	I mean, unless you...
	Is she the final decision maker or seem like she's the final decision maker?
	Like, she'll listen to what you gotta say or whatever, but at the end of the day, someone's gotta be the one to make the final decision.
	I feel like, I don't know, if you're, like, looking for an Airbnb or something, like, she'll look for it, and then she'll be like, which one?
	I'm like, oh, let's do this one.
	So you do the final, but I do the searching.
	I guess you'd say.
	I mean, for serious stuff though, not like an Airbnb for vacation.
	Let's say we're moving to a different country.
	Yeah, we're moving somewhere else.
	Or we're going to buy this house.
	I think that's why it works is because we compromise on everything and we want to make sure that we both want to do whatever the decision is.
	Us moving to the USA, I think I sparked that.
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	Who compromises more on decision making, you or her?
	Who compromises more?
	Yeah.
	I like to make her happy.
	Okay.
	So you do it for her happiness sometimes?
	Okay.
	You're more chill, it seems like?
	Yeah, I mean, I feel like without her, I would probably be too much of a floater.
	Okay.
	Whereas, yeah, I'm creative, I do my shit, and I work, but I need her to be like, did you renew your fucking license?
	But in the back of my head, I'm like, oh, I don't care if it expires.
	You know what I mean?
	Stuff like that.
	She keeps me grounded.
	Is it because she's older?
	I think it's her instinctual nature as a woman to be nurturing.
	Interesting.
	Very, very interesting.
	It's a weird couple, man.
	It's different.
	It's interesting.
	It seems to me like there's really no issues besides her talking to you while you're in the shower.
	Do you have any issues with me?
	How can we work on this?
	What about you?
	I know what you hate about me.
	What?
	Like sometimes I'm like really...
	Loud.
	Oh.
	I was gonna say like heartless.
	Oh yeah.
	I like empathy for people like a lot sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Like deep down he's a really like soft person and cares about people but like he'll act like oh I don't give a fuck.
	Fuck them.
	Has anyone ever cheated before?
	In our relationship?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Is it closed on both your guys ends?
	Closed?
	Like, it's a closed relationship?
	Like, you don't talk to other women?
	No, not at all.
	Completely monogamous.
	Completely monogamous.
	Which I feel like is more common in Australia.
	I don't know, just putting that there.
	If you wanted other women, what would you say?
	Hell no.
	She'd leave.
	You wouldn't allow it?
	No.
	But vice versa too, obviously.
	Like, why are we married?
	Why are we together?
	Has getting married changed anything in your relationship?
	Like, from before?
	It makes me appreciate her more.
	Yeah, be more just that level of seriousness.
	I have no idea why, but it's a title.
	I mean, yeah, it's legal.
	Yeah, it's real.
	I don't know.
	I sort of wake up in the morning now and I'm like, I think I was more selfish before we're married.
	I wouldn't really ask, like, see if she wanted shit.
	Yeah, you have been more like, yeah.
	Now I want to make her happier more than myself lately.
	But it's a title though.
	It's not anything like different.
	I agree.
	It's weird.
	Are you guys trying to have kids?
	Yeah.
	Not right now.
	No?
	Not this moment.
	Do you have plans, too?
	Yeah.
	Well, you're 28, right?
	Well, she does.
	Yeah.
	It's more that everyone in Australia has kids right now, like all our friends and all his brothers, and my sister just had one, and it's like, oh, it'd be nice for the kids to grow up at the same age, and that kind of thing.
	When do you think you want to have kids?
	In the next couple of years, like before 30.
	30.
	How many?
	Oh.
	See, I always said five, but then I'm like, I can't really talk until I have one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If you're going to have five, you should have had them like five years ago.
	A good two.
	A good two.
	But then his mom had him at 37, and she's got three.
	Three of them.
	Yeah, but that's extremely rare.
	And the chances, you know, you never know how many times they try and everything else like that.
	But do you guys have anything?
	Because I have something that I'm pretty much going to come to my conclusion here.
	How do you think that having kids is going to affect what you do now, as far as OnlyFans is concerned?
	You were saying, I don't know if I'm going to be a really good father if I'm hustling gay pictures on OnlyFans.
	Especially if you've got sons and stuff like that.
	How is that going to affect?
	And the reason I'm asking this is because would you be able to to do something else besides only fans if that was no longer an option for you to do because because you have kids like what would you what would you do if you weren't doing what you're doing right now Well, I think I'd tap back into my acting.
	The industry's kind of whack right now.
	Everyone's on strike.
	But my main incentive was to make enough money to be able to direct and produce my own films so I don't have to worry about other directors, producers and situations, casting, I can just produce my own stuff.
	So for me, it's producing my own content, making films.
	And then when it comes to social media, I feel like opportunities are endless.
	What I would say for me is it would be nice to make...
	Because we don't just make videos online just to direct subscribers.
	We also make videos like giving kids money and funny jokes, pranks, all that shit.
	So like...
	It would be really nice to not have the nuisance of having to be like, oh fuck, I need to make this video where I'm acting a little bit more sexual, like have my shirt off or something.
	I would just like to not do that and just be more fitness-related rather than...
	Because it does.
	It turns the straight people, the straight fans, don't want to look up to a guy who's always acting a little zesty, you know?
	I know that, but I know when I act a certain way or make a certain type of video, fuck it gets more views.
	I'll be honest with you bro, I'll keep it a thousand with you.
	You're probably never going to be able to transition back the other way.
	Because you're always going to be looked at as that gay looking dude.
	So I'm just going to give it to you guys raw.
	I hope you guys are prepared.
	Are you guys prepared?
	Because I'm going to be very honest here about everything that I've...
	Because I've been taking notes, listening in, all this other stuff.
	So I'm just going to keep it a million with you guys.
	For you, as far as trying to transition back from the...
	Because obviously you make content that goes to a certain audience, right?
	The homosexual demographic, which has a lot of expendable income, very lucrative, right?
	And then you also do the other content as well.
	But let's be honest here, the predominant...
	People that are paying and subscribing are gay guys.
	So it's gonna be very difficult to transition back out of that with the amount of notoriety and views that you have going in that niche.
	I disagree, I'll tell you why, but go.
	And the reason why is because if you're gonna cultivate a male audience, Men are real big on respect, and they want to be able to look up to you and be like, alright, you've accomplished certain things, you have a certain background.
	Men value competence in the people that they follow.
	They really value that.
	So they're going to look at it like, okay, you used to basically do gay for pay, I'm not going to take this guy seriously.
	Now, are there guys that are going to still want your content, whatever, if you transition and do a rebrand?
	For sure.
	Absolutely.
	But it's going to be an uphill battle.
	I'm not saying you can't do it, it's just going to be tough.
	It's going to be really tough to rebrand.
	The thing is, I don't see it as transitioning.
	I see it as I have multiple audiences where different videos attain different types of followers.
	Of course.
	I did the calculations, and out of 11 million followers, I have 0.5% of those people subscribe to my OnlyFans.
	You know what I mean?
	0.5%.
	When we go on the street, the people that run up to him are actually like, kids, they have 11.
	I'm not saying you can't do it.
	I'm just saying it's going to be very difficult because if you want a male audience, and I know this because our audience is mostly male, they value competence and they want to be able to look up to you and be like, alright, this guy's a shape, this guy's a shit together.
	He did real shit beforehand being on YouTube or being a creator.
	I like this guy.
	So I'm not saying you can't overcome that.
	I'm just saying it's going to be an uphill battle a little bit, especially coming from the G4P. I've seen guys successfully do it though, right?
	Doing the G4P. You have seen it.
	I've seen guys successfully come back, yeah, from the G4P. But of course it'll be hard, yeah.
	It's going to be hard, because it's always going to come back, and they're always going to make fun of you.
	It's always going to be a pain point.
	They're always going to talk shit, right?
	It's like the equivalent to a girl that kind of used to do any type of OF or whatever.
	It's going to be like that little cloud of stigma, right?
	100%.
	But it is what it is.
	You're making your money.
	It is what it is.
	I would say doing that isn't the same as a girl.
	You said 5% of your audience is the one that's...
	0.5% out of 5 million.
	Which...
	Accommodate to like maybe 45% of my income.
	So isn't that funny?
	So 0.5% accounts for almost half of your income.
	Wow.
	So you lose almost half your income if you drop on my hands.
	Which I'm chilling if I do, you know?
	They saved up.
	But for me, it's like...
	See, that's why...
	I think that your your concerns about like transitioning out of like pivoting out of one thing to something else is you're taking half of your income gets cut.
	The problem is is that like I'm gonna admit I'm a pretty vain person so like even if I didn't have an OF I'd be like fuck like I got a sick pump like I need to post my body I have to it look like it looks people have to see this like it looks too good Bro, it looks too good to not post it.
	He's a CEO of shirtless.
	That's how you start it.
	And the other thing, too, is the fitness niche isn't as popular as it was maybe 10 years ago.
	And I've had discussions with this, like fitness OGs with Christian Guzzo and Max Tuning.
	A lot of these guys, right?
	It's just not the same as it used to be.
	I mean, you can still definitely be successful in it, but it's not as big as it was 10 years ago.
	Yeah.
	But what I will say this as far as like because right now It's very obvious you guys are like kind of in the honeymoon phase as far as your marriage It's fresh you guys are making money together.
	It's gonna be successful.
	Are you making money?
	Which is great, but I will say is it's gonna come down the road Dude, you're gonna want to fuck other bitches like it is what it is temptation is gonna rear its ugly head It's gonna come at some point you're eventually gonna get tired of having sex with only her and you're gonna want other women and trust me I promise who's gonna come and the other thing too.
	I want to say is that I You, right?
	You're 28.
	Your value is declining.
	His value is only going up.
	Let's just keep it a million here.
	So what I say is, be happy with what you got and be really...
	I mean, a girl that's on OF, a girl that's an entertainer, etc.
	The things that you've done before, I mean, you're lucky to have them.
	Even people might try to...
	Oh, well, he does like G4P. Still a successful guy.
	Still in the top small percentage.
	Still young.
	And your value is only going to go up.
	And I'm telling you, dude, because I'm an older guy...
	You're going to want to have sex with other girls.
	Other girls are going to come to you because you have a woman already.
	Now that you're married, you're going to be even more attractive to a bunch of chicks.
	It's not our going.
	They try.
	Oh, yeah.
	Boom.
	Okay, so it's a matter of...
	Yeah, so they're already trying.
	So my thing is this for her, because she's like, I'm going to leave.
	You don't have the leverage anymore.
	I'm sorry.
	He has the leverage in this relationship.
	And if something does happen, you're better off staying with him than leaving.
	Because what's going to happen is if you go back out into the market or anything else like that, dudes are just going to pump and dump you.
	They're not going to take you seriously.
	I'd rather be single than be with someone who doesn't really want to be with me.
	He does want to be with you.
	He wants to fuck other girls.
	No, he doesn't.
	A man having sex and a man wanting to have sex with a girl versus committing to a girl are two completely different things.
	Do you think there's never been a relationship in the world where they haven't cheated?
	What do you mean?
	Like a marriage.
	Has there ever been a marriage where the husband hasn't cheated on the wife?
	No, it exists.
	But what I'm saying is that when a man has sex with another girl, it's not the same as a woman having sex with another man.
	Okay, yeah.
	He can go fuck another chick and it's different.
	I understand what you mean, but if I were to cheat, I would understand that the direct implications of that would be her not being able to get over it or through it.
	No, but that's why I'm telling her now.
	Be prepared.
	Like, I'm literally telling you, everything is good right now, but what I'm saying is that you're 28 years old, he's going to want to fuck other bitches, trust me, I promise you.
	You don't think 10 years in, he'd want to already?
	He's peaky.
	We also brought this up earlier.
	He's not going to speak yet.
	I was going to say, we just brought this up, like, when you were 20, you were, like, packing milk.
	Now you're 26, and look where you are.
	I don't know what your annual income is, but I'm sure it wasn't what it wasn't when you were 20, okay?
	So when you look at yourself at 26, where are you going to be in the next 10 years, right?
	When you get to be 36, you maximize that.
	So that's really what he's getting at, is like, you're only on the way up right now.
	now, whereas like her sexual market value is starting to decline.
	Well, it's been declining since, you know, really 23, 24 years old because you're now you're not on a show anymore and you're you're reliant on other other other means.
	The thing is, is like when when you sexualize yourself and you create a business or your revenue is dependent on like OnlyFans are dependent on sexualizing yourself.
	You are also dependent on how long you have to go in that particular.
	That's why I asked you, what would you do if you didn't have OnlyFans?
	Where would you go from there?
	What would you pivot into?
	Are you talking money-wise?
	Well, both of you, really.
	What would you do money-wise?
	I know you have an agency to help other people.
	That might be one avenue to do it.
	But once you can't make the same kind of money, you're unable to do what you did before because you're no longer sexually as marketable as you were before.
	Because really, let's be honest, that's what your revenue is dependent on is your sexual agency at that point.
	When that decays and that's gone, what do you do after that?
	That's why I was asking about kids and everything else.
	We bought ourselves time.
	We've done it for two years, but we are the top creators.
	0.01%.
	And we've done it for long enough that if we quit by the end of the year, in like two months, we already have multiple properties.
	We're going to flip properties next year as well.
	We really don't need to do it anymore.
	So there's interest rates to go down.
	Goddamn.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You can always refinance.
	True, true, true.
	I mean, that's what I was asking.
	You were saying you're going to lose almost half of your income if you give up OnlyFans.
	So what do you do to make up for that deficit?
	I will agree with you that one of the hottest things about going viral, making money, this, that...
	You can make 100k one month and then you make 80.
	You have to be grateful, but your first response is like, fuck.
	Damn, I could have made more.
	Dude, is this shit ending?
	What the fuck happened?
	So it's very normal to react that way to the extremes of life.
	But to touch back on what you were saying, I won't cheat, and I wouldn't consider cheating, even if it snuck up on me, you know, behind me, or maybe this girl likes me, whatever, she's giving me more attention than my wife, and I'll tell you why.
	If I do that, I'm still a fucking boy.
	And I know that it takes a real fucking man to be devoted and faithful to one person.
	I'm not telling you to run around and cheat.
	What I am saying is that if it does happen, it's in her best interest to not leave.
	She should stay.
	Because what I'm saying is that a lot of girls have egos.
	You come from an entertainment background.
	You probably have a big following on Instagram, etc.
	And you're like, yo, I've accomplished XYZ. I'm the shit.
	And what I'm saying is that as you age as a woman, you lose value.
	And you have a man right now.
	And if he fucks up and does something, it's in your best interest to stay with him because as you get older, you lose leverage with the man.
	And the other thing too, bro, is that...
	You're younger than her, so I get it.
	You kind of defer to her a little bit because, you know, she's older than you and might be a little bit more responsible.
	But you need to take the reins and be the leader in the relationship, period.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's got to be your way, not her way.
	I mean, of course, get her, you know, opinion on things.
	Obviously, consult with your wife.
	But you think all the time you've got to be controlling shit?
	No, you need to be...
	No, no, no.
	Because I am a leader.
	Hold on, hold on.
	You need to be in control.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Authority.
	You're the final decision-maker.
	In other words, if you tell her to do something, it's not, fuck your career.
	I'm the man.
	Not saying that you need to do that.
	If it needed to come to that, she needs to follow you.
	And then what I'm also trying to say is, I'm helping her appreciate you a little bit more now.
	Because the thing with women is, a lot of women have ego, and that's crazy to me how I said, well, if you cheated, what would you do?
	I'd leave.
	That's ridiculous.
	The chances of you finding another guy on his level that's going to take you seriously, isn't going to put you in a sex-only category and take you seriously and give you a wedding ring, are slim to none.
	But I'd rather be single.
	I'd rather have to find another man.
	Who loses, though?
	Who?
	If I'm not with him, I wouldn't want to be with anyone else.
	I'm never going to find that again.
	But I would rather just be with him for him, but he's not going to cheat.
	Like, I know him.
	But if it does happen, it's great to be 20-20 hindsight, a bunch of people watching, oh, I'm never going to cheat, blah, blah, blah.
	Dude, hot chick comes up, you've drank a couple, you're feeling a little nice, you know what, fuck it, I'll get my dick sucked, blah, blah, blah.
	What I'm simply saying is that you guys are honeymoon phase, it's going to happen, dude.
	You're going to get bored of her at some point.
	She's not going to look as beautiful as she is now forever.
	That's the reality.
	You're going to lose value.
	You're going to want a hotter, younger, tighter chick.
	It's going to come.
	And if it does, I'm just simply telling her, be prepared for it.
	Don't leave.
	Accept the fact that you no longer have leverage because you are with a man that's higher status than you and be happy with it.
	And appreciate that, too.
	And you need to be the leader and the authority.
	It's your way, bro.
	I was going to say is that one of the precipitators of divorce is getting married early.
	So kids who get married between 18 and 19 years old tend to be divorced by the time they get to be about 30 years old, simply because they're missing out on that 20, their 20s period, where all their other friends, they're living vicariously through their friends and stuff.
	So they're playing house.
	Not to say that this is where you guys are at, but you guys have been together almost.
	How long have you been together before you got married?
	10 years?
	Ten years.
	So you're looking at a decade of shared history right there.
	So you've only ever technically been...
	I mean, I know you said you've got...
	I still find it hard to believe that you had, like, what do you say?
	20 girls in seven months?
	20 girls?
	Was it 20?
	Yeah, 20 girls in seven months.
	That comes out to, like, three girls, like, every month.
	That's not that much.
	He's brought that to, like, the White West.
	Understood.
	But be that as it may, the thing is, is, like, When a couple is younger and they get married, just because you got married now, as opposed to when you guys got together and you said, hey, we're going to be in a monogamous relationship 10 years ago, technically, you've been with no one else since that point.
	So, in a sense, you kind of were married when you decided to get together and then live.
	That's why I asked, were you guys living together?
	So, you're living together.
	You're basically...
	You're basically a married couple without the marriage certificate and the ceremony.
	You get there.
	It's just a formality at this point to go do it in Mykonos, right?
	So really...
	I think they got the certificate.
	You guys got it, right?
	They got it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, but just like two months ago, right?
	Yeah.
	A few weeks, yeah.
	Yeah, so...
	So, really, you've been more or less married for most of your 20s, or been at least in a committed, monogamous, long-term relationship since then.
	So, one of the things that, like, this is why I agree with what he's saying, is that when couples get together younger, it's kind of like making up for missing out, right?
	So, when you get to be about 30, when you get into your 30s, that's why I was saying, you're 26 now, when you get to be about 36, you're going to have a different opinion of things at that point.
	And so, what happens is, I talk to guys like this all the time.
	I say, oh, no, I'll never cheat.
	You know, like, there'll be 19, but usually they're religious, right?
	right like I got because the only way they're gonna get to sex is because they got to marry early right so what happens is those guys have these really kind of like very naive outlook on like how how their marriage is gonna go how their relationships gonna go and what they're gonna do and they're they're very like have noble intent but the fact of the matter is is that the more successful they become they go well I wish I wouldn't have made that decision when I made that decision I I wish I had more time being single so I could sort of explore things.
	Like when she went off to Europe for a little while just to sort of like, you know, decompress, I guess, from the other boyfriend right there.
	Think of that in a long term.
	So when I'm talking about how it takes men longer to mature into who they're going to become, you're still maturing into who you're going to be when you're 36 years old.
	Yeah, very 26, man.
	You're a kid, dude.
	And this is what I call the adolescent social skill set.
	Okay, so you have this social skill set that's like, oh, I love her.
	I saw her at 13.
	We have this great...
	And I hope it works.
	This is not doom and gloom, okay?
	I'm just saying that this is what you're facing right now.
	So when you're talking about, oh, I would never cheat on her.
	I love her, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Noble intent.
	Love it.
	Great.
	But the thing is, right now, you're not who you're going to be when you're 36.
	And so, especially if you're still on your way up, if you're still on your way up to becoming your maximum potential when you get to be at 36, at 36, I think you're going to have a different opinion of what you were saying on this show 10 years ago.
	I want to be clear, too, about this.
	What was that?
	No, sorry.
	Tell us what you said.
	No, I'm just saying it's funny.
	I figured that...
	No, I totally get what you're saying.
	But I feel like in a relationship we've had two crazy phases, right?
	That you'd think things would go wrong in an average relationship.
	I don't think they would have made it this far, right?
	I want to show...
	Having sex in the spa with a guy on the TV show with my tits out and he's packing milk and we got through that and then we got over here and we went to Los Angeles for a couple years.
	Everyone's like, well, there's going to be so many temptations there.
	Can I interrupt just one second?
	There's a quote, I don't know, word by word, but when a man has nothing, There are two tests.
	So when a man has nothing, and if she stayed with me when I had nothing, then I'm gonna be loyal to her when I have everything.
	But here's the thing, you're complaining- That's basically it.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Your loyalty isn't the same as her loyalty.
	Women show loyalty differently than men do.
	You show loyalty by you're willing to die, protect, and provide for her, no matter what.
	She shows loyalty by not fucking other men.
	Now, with that said, obviously it was just a scene, it is what it is.
	What I'm trying to say is, For the background that you come with, being an actress and people can see that and everything else like that, you should be happy that you got a guy to take you seriously because a lot of guys would be like, what the fuck?
	I'm not gonna take this girl seriously.
	Obviously this guy loves you and everything else like that.
	But what I'm saying is, now that he's got a shit together and his value's only gonna go up and your value's only gonna go down, I think it's ludicrous and not logically sound for you to say, man, if he cheated on me or he had sex with another girl, I'm going to leave him.
	That'd be crazy because you're not going to find a replacement to take you seriously as your value goes down, unfortunately.
	And this is the thing that women don't get is that your value is not evergreen.
	It goes down as you age and his is only going to go up.
	So with that said, man, I know it's like wishful thinking.
	I'm not telling you to cheat on your girl.
	But I'm saying is that if something does happen.
	Right.
	You should be very appreciative and stay with the guy through thick and thin because your level of loyalty, how you show loyalty is different than how he does it.
	You're using the feminine way of showing loyalty by sexual fidelity.
	No, that's how she shows loyalty to you.
	It's not the same.
	I mean, look, we can't predict the future.
	We don't know.
	Of course not.
	I'm like 99.999999% sure he won't.
	You know the strip club 11?
	Hopefully he doesn't.
	I'm not saying...
	I'm not saying...
	I'm not telling him to go fuck other girls.
	What I am saying is that I know men...
	We'll try and work through it.
	Yeah, I've seen people work through it.
	And of course I try, but knowing who he is...
	No, no, no.
	Don't try.
	Just do it.
	Just do it.
	If it happens, just do it.
	But I'd rather be alone.
	I mean, I'd rather be alone because...
	Why would I... If I'm not with him, like I said, I wouldn't want to be with anyone else.
	But if someone's going to cheat on me and lie to me and be like, I'm going this way and then actually go somewhere else and fuck another girl, I wouldn't want to be with him.
	And I have my own money, so it's not like I'm going to be on the street broke.
	So why would I... You said you were best friends at the beginning, right?
	Yes.
	This is your best friend, your lover, your husband.
	Maybe we could be best friends if you cheated.
	There you go.
	Why would you leave after one action?
	The thing is, let's be honest.
	I don't want to shit on women.
	Let's be honest.
	Let's be honest.
	Most girls, especially in America, There it is.
	A fucking trash.
	I agree with you.
	I see their psyche and I see their subconscious programming.
	I see how they think, how they talk, what they're interested in, how they can use men for this, that, the other.
	And if she died and I became a widow, I swear to God, I'm so repulsed by the common female that I would not be seeking casual sexual encounters.
	It would take me a while and then I would be looking for something much more serious.
	Sounds good.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I do have a lot of testosterone.
	I am a sexual person.
	But that's just not...
	I'm just not interested in it.
	I think as well, his parents have the most beautiful relationship.
	And he's seen how their relationship is better and how his dad treats her like a princess.
	How many years have they been together?
	30, some five years or something.
	Maybe that is why you are the way you are.
	So last week we went to 11, the nightclub.
	You know, the strip club.
	Strip club, sorry.
	For Halloween, that's why we went.
	It was like with friends or whatever.
	And I was having so much fun.
	I was like, this is hilarious.
	And then he was like so over it.
	Now, I don't know.
	You'd say that's not the average man.
	Okay, there's like naked chicks in front of me.
	This is sick.
	I felt sorry for them.
	I was like, trust me, these girls are hot dogs.
	When I'm with my chick, act the same way.
	By the way.
	Oh, you're saying only when you're with her.
	So you love him, right?
	You left him, right?
	With all your heart.
	Yes.
	Question for you.
	If he told you, babe, that's a great idea, let's do a threesome, what would you say?
	Found this great chick at 11 and we want to bring her home.
	Good mindset, down to earth.
	What do you say?
	Like you've lost your mind.
	I get that couples want to do it, but it's just not his character.
	It's like him going, I'm gay.
	Because it's just not him.
	Do you get what I'm saying?
	Wait, he's not gay?
	No, he's not gay.
	Sorry.
	Well, I don't know.
	Is he?
	Okay, okay.
	So, once again, you're 26 years old.
	I get it.
	You're confident.
	You love her 100%.
	But we're just telling you, as guys as well, we're outside, bro.
	We're in the world as well.
	Logically sound, rational sound advices.
	If it happens, and it's going to happen, maybe, at some point in your lifetime, Don't leave.
	That's all we're saying.
	It's an insurance policy.
	You guys said you're in real estate, right?
	You've got to get insurance when you go ahead and get a property, right?
	You get flood insurance even though you might not necessarily get a hurricane or a flood, but you get it anyway for that self-assurance.
	What I'm saying is that for you, keep it in the back of your mind that, okay, he might go ahead and fuck another girl.
	If it happens, I'm going to put my ego to the side, understand that he is the one who's the leader, has more leverage.
	I'm losing value.
	I need to be logically sound, not rule my emotions, and I'm not leaving this man.
	Yeah.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Hey, man, dude, if you're going to stay faithful, monogamous, fantastic.
	Do it.
	Fuck yeah.
	But what I'm saying is that 99% of the time dudes don't do that.
	They can't.
	99, that's a high one.
	Yeah, because...
	You have two brothers, correct?
	Yeah.
	Are they married?
	They both have two kids each.
	How long have they been married?
	Do they have a similar, like, outlook on their marriages?
	Definitely.
	It's what their dad ingrained in them.
	They look at cheating like it's disgusting.
	Like, especially Jay.
	He has his wife, and he's like, he's princess, and he looks like he knows friends have cheated, and he's like, literally, just like, he's disgusted by it.
	Oh, he definitely fucked other bitches, though.
	Come on, man.
	I'll do the same shit.
	Same shit, I'll do the same thing.
	Oh yeah, cheating is disgusting.
	I will never.
	Yeah, dude, he definitely fucked other chicks if he's doing that type of shit.
	Alright, we'll read the chats in the closest thing out.
	Let's see here, and then we'll turn it to them if they have any questions for us.
	Alright, homeboy looks like Matt Reif if he went trans twice.
	God damn, y'all fucked up, man.
	Who is that?
	Icy Sidetooth.
	Who is that?
	Icy Sidetooth, apparently.
	What else do we got here?
	$20 worth spent, bro.
	This guy is more valuable to this modern society showing his butthole for $15k than a police officer, engineer, electrician, plumber.
	We're all just worthless brokies.
	Please let World War III happen so we can reset this BS society.
	What are you going to do about it?
	You want to respond to him?
	You ever give the USA back to him?
	Nah.
	This guy's going to be your landlord.
	We both go, this guy's a Dwight Howard for sure, okay?
	For an office?
	No, in reference for G2P, the basketball player.
	G-Man goes, thought of a solution for the below 20% men.
	Women, my body, my choice.
	Go abroad, pay women that agree to have your children sign a contract.
	She gives away custody, return, no child divorce, courts, hire, maid escort, be cheaper, see?
	Bro.
	Nigga, that's a lot of work.
	You know too much, bro.
	That's a lot of work, man.
	It's a doctoral thesis.
	What else do we got here?
	Anything else?
	Oh, okay.
	I understand your opinion of marriage differs from Matt Walsh, but if you ever considered having him on the pod for couples intervention, it would provide multiple perspectives for the couples.
	Yeah, that's not going to happen.
	I mean, if he wants to come on, sure.
	Albo Ace, zesty...
	Oh, ass.
	Okay.
	Selling yourself to gay dudes and wifing up an OF chick.
	Haram, haram, haram.
	Send them to Saudi.
	Maybe World War III wouldn't be so bad after all.
	Oh my gosh.
	Do you have anything to say back to him?
	I want to say, why do you want to die, bro?
	Do you hate your life so much you want to die?
	You really want World War 3?
	Send the meteor.
	That's a good point.
	Any questions you guys got for us or comments or statements or anything like that?
	How old are you?
	I'm 33.
	33?
	Yeah.
	You?
	31.
	Are you guys single?
	I have an open relationship.
	Open.
	On my end only, not on hers.
	And it works out.
	Obviously, I was honest from the beginning.
	Told her what it was.
	She accepts it.
	And I think men need to...
	Because the reality is men typically almost always want other women.
	You could play the monogamy game for a period of time, but you're always going to want other women.
	So I'm honest about it.
	Let her know what it is.
	And yeah.
	I think honesty, that's it.
	Yeah.
	If that's your point, like, you know, if you have an agreement, go for it.
	Like, I have friends who are in open relationships.
	I'm like, it works for you.
	Fantastic.
	So you're going to let him slide?
	No.
	If you're happy, you're happy.
	I think it just depends on each situation.
	But yeah.
	Well, we wish you the best, man.
	But we're just telling you the future.
	Do you have anything else to say about this future of you cheating?
	Definitely not going to happen.
	Well, it's not cheating if he tells you I want to have other women.
	Oh, no, that's different.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you're cool with it?
	No, I'm not cool with it.
	I'm saying it'd be better if he said it than, like, lying.
	I feel like the problem with cheating is the lying aspect.
	If you hide it.
	There it is.
	Okay, look, well, we were...
	Oh, man.
	But no, I'm still not gonna let him, like, just...
	If he asked me, it'd be weird and I'd be like, something's off.
	I'm talking about in general with other relationships.
	This is what I think.
	I know you guys said, like, a woman's value decreases as she gets older.
	Yes.
	And I do agree with you, but when she becomes...
	A mother, I think a value is really increased.
	That's personal worth versus sexual market value.
	And then the reason why we're making that separation is because that's where your revenue is generated from right now, is your sexual market value.
	Both of you, as a matter of fact.
	And I think people always, when we say your value is lowering, we're not saying your value as a human being.
	We're saying your attraction level.
	You can be a great humanitarian and you can have no sexual market value.
	Although, I don't know, it was my mom's 60th and I posted her and she got more attention than me.
	Everyone's like, she's the hottest milk.
	Where's her OF? I'm like, mom?
	I don't know.
	But that is a fantasy.
	But that just proves that men sexualize women.
	Yeah.
	And?
	And?
	Yeah, I mean, she's hot.
	Yeah, but if she's hot at 60, she probably was a lot hotter at 20.
	There is niche porn for everyone.
	What about the Kardashians?
	I feel like they're the hottest now in their 40s.
	Oh my god.
	Just wondering.
	Let's go ahead and talk about that because people like to go ahead and always use the Kardashians as an example, right?
	Kim Kardashian pretty much cries herself to sleep every night.
	She can't get a man to take her seriously.
	She has surgeries out the woozaa.
	Yeah, she's made a bunch of money and she's wildly successful and she's a world-renowned individual, but...
	No one takes her seriously.
	The thing is that no one, with all due respect, no one gives a fuck about female accolades.
	We really don't care.
	If you lost everything tomorrow, he would not leave you.
	But the reality is, if he lost everything tomorrow, there'd be a high likelihood you'd leave him.
	And that's the uncomfortable reality between men and women.
	A general woman would.
	She wouldn't.
	Because I had nothing, and she didn't leave.
	I'm weird like that.
	But you have something now, and if you lost it, it would definitely put stress on your relationship.
	Back then, remember, we spoke about this earlier.
	You said you didn't like that you did the show last time because obviously it had some sex scenes in it, but now at your value, would you say yes to that?
	You wouldn't.
	So things have changed over a period of time.
	She had the leverage before, and now you have it.
	And what I'm saying is, I mean, number one, you're lucky that she even got a relationship.
	I'll be honest with you, a lot of guys, when wife and girl, they got a sex scene in the show.
	That's fine.
	But what I am saying is that you have the leverage now, bro.
	And it's better that way.
	Trust me.
	It's better when you have the leverage versus her having the leverage.
	Because when she has the leverage, what'd she do?
	A sex scene on a TV show, which you don't like.
	Women should never have leverage.
	Let me ask you this.
	When he was 20 and he was packing milk and he didn't have the kind of money that he does right now, did you see potential in him?
	That he could be more than what he was?
	Ambition.
	Ambition at that time?
	I guess moving to America together and his music career, yeah, but I wasn't like...
	Do you think he could be something more than he actually was certainly at that time?
	Um...
	Yes and no.
	Like, I don't think I would have cared if he didn't, but yeah, it was like, we hoped for it, that something would happen.
	Hope.
	Hope, yes.
	I feel like you were the only person, like, I had big delusions for my life, and she was the only person who'd be like...
	Believed in you?
	Believed in me, yeah.
	I guarantee you, when that green car came across the street...
	Green card!
	Let's go!
	I believe you, babe.
	Okay, cool.
	Anything else?
	That's it.
	All right, okay.
	Fresh's Dog goes, homie just got to smash hoes on camera and call them scenes so it don't count as cheating.
	Problem solved.
	There you go.
	Madera, my backtracking in the stream said, of course, get her opinion on things.
	Consult with your wife.
	But last week's After Hours of Sneakle, you agreed with Chris when he said, fuck what your wife says.
	Yeah, fuck what your wife says if it doesn't line up with what you want to do.
	Consult with her, but at the end of the day, you make the final decision.
	Don't try to take the shit out of context, you fucking loser.
	Niggas be fucking retarded in here sometimes, man.
	Common sense would tell you, bro, you have a wife, obviously you need her opinion, bro.
	Are you dumb?
	Dudes are like scientists.
	Fuck what she thinks if she doesn't agree with you.
	Facts.
	But if she agrees with you, and maybe she has a new...
	Hey, I agree with you, but how about this?
	Oh, that actually amplifies...
	Yeah, that makes it better.
	Cool.
	Let's do that.
	But if it doesn't align with what you want, yeah, then fuck what she thinks.
	Yo, please.
	Goddamn, man.
	Some people don't have common sense in here, man.
	This dude definitely wants to smash other men, not women.
	This marriage gotta be our front L. Hold on.
	For the last time.
	People all keep saying gay this, gay that.
	What are you?
	I'm straight.
	There you go.
	Problem solved.
	There you go.
	Alright, cool.
	With that said, guys, where can they find you guys?
	Yeah, where can they find you?
	And Rolo?
	Taya Ritchie.
	T-A-Y-O-R-I-C-C-I. Scarlet Bass.
	And you can find me at The Rational Mail.
	I'm on YouTube, as you guys know.
	And we also do a show called Access Vegas in Las Vegas every other week with Mike Sartain, who's in the house here.
	And then, of course, you can find all my books on Amazon, The Rational Mail.
	Cool.
	Cool.
	Guys, like the video, subscribe to the channel.
	We'll be back after hours.
	Love you all.
	Peace.
	Peace.
	See you later.
	I just ran.

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