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Oct. 31, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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Why Are Women Objectified & Who's At Fault? 2 Entitled Girls Kicked Off!
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Thank you.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Raid Podcast, man.
Special Halloween edition.
Let's get into it.
Let's go.
Nobody cares, bro.
Get out.
Get out.
It's the night.
Kind of hot.
In the night.
No control.
Get out.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
I know the night is not as good as it seems.
I must believe in something so I'll make myself believe it.
It's night and night.
Okay, we are back.
We're back.
What's up, guys?
I am so happy.
You know why?
Why?
For the first time ever, you guys have seen Durag Myron.
Yes, you guys are seeing Durag Myron.
Woo!
You guys have waited a while.
I've decided to embrace my blackness and I'm here now.
So I'm dressed up as a rapper.
You guys can sit here with the iced out stuff and these overpressed sunglasses.
I don't know what this is.
This is how you go through life?
This is weird, bro.
Why?
I can't see nothing.
Because first we were wearing the sunglasses at night and I can't see shit.
I don't know how you do this in a club.
They're called hater blockers, my friend.
Oh, okay.
Hater blockers.
I'm blocking a lot of haters right now.
Features are bright, by the way.
I appreciate that.
It's the hood, eh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hope you guys are enjoying the Halloween effects here.
Okay, so with that said, guys, we're going to go...
Oh, real quick.
Rumble.com slash FreshFit, councilclub.tv.
In case we get cancer, you guys know exactly where to find us.
Yep.
And, um...
All right, Chris, go ahead.
We should make a note, guys.
Tell them what you actually are so they know what your character is.
I am the pre-slayer.
Ladies, DM me there.
I have the holy water for you girls sending me ratchet DMs.
Come on, it's a good show.
And hopefully, I don't have to use holy water tonight.
If I do, it's ready.
Okay, I heard it swirling in there.
Bills, what are you, bro?
Oh, I'm these hoes, Lord and Savior.
Oh!
I'll tell you this, Jesus.
You fucked up because you can't even save these hoes.
Blasphemy, man.
You can't even save these hoes.
Oh, shit.
That's blasphemy.
Last and not least.
Okay.
Mo.
This episode is sponsored by Gorilla Mind.
And my favorite is Coochie Blood.
I mean, Tiger Blood.
Worst vampire ever.
Good job.
Good job, man.
Listen, you gotta understand, Myron.
A real man loves his woman every day of the month.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
He's a sick bastard.
Tom Mocula.
Yeah.
Tom Mocula.
Niggas call that Viserra in the chat.
Viserra, man.
Yo, they're for a wrestler.
Yo, the jokes are coming tonight.
Okay.
Shout out to Icy for the costumes, by the way.
Yes.
Wait, also the girls.
Do you mind?
Come on, Seth.
Yeah, come on, Seth, man.
We got the staff in the house, man.
They're dressed up as well.
Looks like they're about to go rob a bank in that movie, The Town.
You guys are nuns, right?
Yes.
They're nuns.
So we'll be escorting anybody out.
Okay, if they act crazy?
Too bad they're not virgins.
And Roberto turns the shit red?
I'm supposed to be a monk, but I'm actually Nigga Bender.
Fresh as a monk.
I'm Nigga Bender.
No, I'm Nigga Bender.
What is that?
Airbender.
Ang.
Say anime.
You know what sound effect to hit.
Ladies, welcome to the show.
If you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, and we'll start right here.
Welcome.
Hi, my name is Victoria.
I am 40 years old.
Wait, 40?
40!
I dabble in dropshipping.
I'm a licensed massage therapist.
Oh, real quick, real quick.
I'll guide you through it.
Where are you from, originally?
Miami.
Okay.
Well, originally from Orlando, but I live in Miami.
Okay.
And then you're a massage therapist.
What else?
I dabble in dropshipping.
I license to teach yoga.
Certified herbalist.
I've done trading before.
Okay.
What is your predominant source of income?
We're limited to three.
I do what gets my bills paid.
What does that mean?
That means that I'll do massage or I'll dropshipping.
Happy endings?
No.
No.
I worked for a chiropractor for eight years.
Okay, so that's your like main job?
Yeah.
Okay, and then highest education level completed?
I have my associates in science.
Okay.
I'm assuming you have your massage therapy license?
Yes, and I also have a yoga license and an herbal license.
Alhamdulillah.
Are you actually good?
We just actually started our podcast, Bottom Line, so check us out too.
What do y'all talk about?
Love and psychology with love.
Okay.
Are you single?
Yes.
Okay, cool.
That was the last question.
Wait, no.
Actually, what's your costume?
Oh, I'm Cleopatra!
Alright.
Fantastic.
It's a fitting age.
Oh, y'all.
She was a whole, too.
She was a whole, too, so you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, she fucked a couple Conquerors.
Yeah, she did, actually.
Back in time.
Yeah, she did.
Alright, what about you?
What's your name?
Hey, y'all!
She looked off for a second.
She was like, what?
What was that?
But I'm Chris.
I forgot all the questions.
Oh no, don't worry, I got you.
Wait, short for Christina?
Okay, honestly, I hate saying my name because nobody ever believed me, but my name is Chris Love.
Oh, I hate that.
That's nice.
Well, actually, I believe it.
Thank you.
Yeah, I believe it.
Yeah, it's really my name.
How do you spell it?
It's Christ Love.
It's spelled how it sounds.
Like Jesus and then love next to it.
Why are people coming up with some unique names?
It was Haitians.
Yes, sir!
Yeah!
I'm 27.
Okay, and where are you originally from?
I was born there, but I was raised in Broward, I'll be honest.
So Broward County, but Haiti, National.
Okay, and then what do you do for work?
Okay, so I'm a hustler, so I guess I'm a licensed optician.
Okay.
I'm a sales manager.
I do hair.
I'm a model.
You're a model?
Yeah, I model.
Question for you.
Okay, so limited to two or three professions and your main gig is optician.
My main gig is optician and dancing.
And to have it...
Dancing?
Yeah.
What kind of dancing?
You know.
Stop acting like you don't know.
Oh!
You're one of those dancers.
Okay.
So, do people throw denominations of currency at you?
A lot.
Okay, yeah.
So, okay.
She has scripper guys as well.
That's a strange...
Okay.
I know, I know, I know.
See how people find glasses by day and then help them use them glasses at night?
Like, what's going on?
Yeah, and then my name, my stage name matches my job.
Okay.
What is it for us?
Is that your station?
No, you'll never guess though.
What is it?
Vision.
Take away your vision!
What the fuck is going on?
Okay, highest education level completed.
Um, I got a licensed optician.
Okay.
Any bachelor degree or anything like that?
Or associates or anything?
Just an associate.
Okay.
In optometry or something?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
Single.
Sadly single.
That's fucked.
Alright.
What are you dressed up as?
The hoe.
Nobody.
I am not as a hoe.
I am just as me.
I am just as Christ-likely.
Don't even try me.
I'm Haitian.
I don't believe in that Halloween shit.
How dare you, Chris?
I mean, I thought she was a hoe, man.
Be quiet!
And Chris, how dare you try your Chris?
Oh!
That's facts!
This is crazy.
Chris is dressed as a pastor arguing with a girl named Chris about being a Christian.
This is crazy.
And she had a vision.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's funny.
Chrisception.
As long as they see Jesus.
Yeah.
And we got Jesus in the house, actually.
Jesus, what you got to say about this, actually?
Jesus, what you got to say?
Hey, Susie, you better tell somebody.
W?
Hey, man.
That's blasphemy, bro.
Just saying.
Oh, I know you ain't talking, bro.
That chat is blasphemy.
Okay, what about you?
What about you?
What about you?
What's your name?
Hi, my name is Savannah.
I'm 21.
Okay.
How old are you?
Oh yeah, 21.
Sorry, where are you from originally?
I'm from Minnesota originally, but I go to school in Tampa.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I work at Barry's right now, Barry's Boot Camp, the gym, but I'm going to school for health sciences and sales.
So you're pursuing your bachelor's degree?
Yeah, I graduate this May.
Okay.
And it's for, you said what?
What was the major?
Health sciences and sales, so I'm going to medical device sales.
Okay.
Alright, and do you want to drop where you go to school?
It's up to you.
University of South Florida, go Bulls, even though they suck ass at sports.
That's yours.
Are they D1 or D2? Yes, but their record is questionable.
We just don't talk about it.
It's not an athletic school.
And their relationship status?
I'm single.
They're D1, and they're not getting off D1. What's your costume?
I'm a black swan, and my best friend is sitting literally across the table from me, and she's a white swan.
We have co-ord outfits.
That was that low investment costume.
I like it.
I see what y'all did.
Low investment costume.
Can you make a swan noise?
What does a swan sound like?
You should tell me.
You're a swan.
I didn't think they made noise.
Break your tippy toes.
I don't know.
Just break your tippy toes.
Something like that.
Okay, moving on.
What about you?
She made the Cardi B sound.
What about you?
Hi, my name's Alondra.
I'm a medical esthetician and I'm a bartender.
I'm 27.
Welcome back.
Where are you originally from?
I'm from Miami, born and raised.
Red flag again.
Holy!
I remember now, your costume.
Who's been on the show before?
I was like, what the fuck?
She's on Wazurka.
27, Miami, and then what do you do for work again?
I'm a medical esthetician and I'm a bartender on the weekends.
Okay.
And then, so bartender.
And then highest education level completed?
High school and some college, but I didn't finish.
Okay, so we'll put high school then.
And then relationship status?
Single.
Damn, still?
I mean, I still got, you know, but you know what I'm saying.
I don't know what you're saying.
I'm going to say single.
What's your costume?
Greek goddess.
Oh, wait.
I mean they all told me.
Greek goddess, you know I got some ghosts, some leaves, you know what I'm saying?
Can you offer into it?
White clarity, damn.
I'm just saying, man.
What about you?
What's up?
I'm a Bitcoin fairy.
Wait, sorry, what's your name?
Bitcoin fairy.
Which one is your first name?
Bitcoin?
Everybody calls me fairy.
Okay.
A bitcoin.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm in my 30s.
Wait, 30s?
Alright, we need the number though.
If you're a numbers girl, you should know the number.
I'ma say 30.
30.
That's what it is on paper.
30.
What does it really know?
30!
We keep numbers on all the girls that come on the show.
30?
30.
For real?
30.
Or is it older?
If they expose you, it's gonna be worse.
I'm telling you it's 30.
Alright, if they expose you, it's gonna be worse.
We're gonna call you out.
It's 30.
Alright, where are you originally from?
Miami, Florida.
Okay.
Red flag.
What do you do for work?
But I'm Haitian.
Yes, sir!
I'm a travel nurse.
Yes, sir!
I'm a travel nurse.
Alert, Chris!
But she's Haitian!
Hey!
Okay.
And I'm assuming in nursing?
Yep.
Oh, it said that you're 40.
It said that you're 40.
Yeah, I could be 40.
That's what it said.
They're guessing.
They're trolling the chat.
Anyways.
Alright, and then what's your relationship status?
Single.
Yeah, we know.
Let's talk about 40.
Be single.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Laura.
I'm 30.
I'm from New York.
Welcome back.
Are you from the city or upstate?
No, I'm from Brooklyn, New York.
New York?
Yeah.
Okay, what do you do for work?
I bartend and I'm getting into IT. I'm starting IT now.
I'm your 30.
Yeah, I am.
Start when?
I'm starting soon, I just figured it out.
Okay, I remember her too.
Okay, alright.
She was cool, she was cool.
Brooklyn.
Okay.
Okay, what do you, and then you said you're a bartender, and then you just moved here, you said?
Yeah, I moved here like a few years ago, like two years, during the pandemic, basically.
Okay, then what's your highest education level completed?
Just high school.
Okay, and then relationship status?
I'm single.
Okay.
And costume?
I'm a mouse.
Oh, okay.
I thought I was like cat for a second, but I guess...
I mean, it doesn't look like cat ears, so I'm a mouse.
Last minute.
Are you getting the cheese?
Yeah.
What?
Thank you, bro.
Goddamn.
Bro, shit.
She gave it to the money.
Cheese.
Okay.
What about you?
What's your name?
That was so corny.
Who said that?
Screw you.
You're a dead goddess.
You're a devil.
What's your name?
So, my name is Paulina.
I'm sorry, what is it?
Malina?
Paulina.
Paulina, okay.
How old are you, Paulina?
I'm 22, and I'm currently a student.
I'm from Miami, but I live in Tampa.
Full-time student?
Yes.
Okay, what do you do, um, sorry, where are you originally from?
Miami.
Okay.
But, see, my best friend there, we both go to college in Tampa.
Okay.
How'd you guys meet?
At school?
Okay, so funny story, actually.
Oh, so y'all don't live here then?
No.
Well, my parents live here.
Like, I grew up here, so we're kind of just visiting this weekend.
Okay.
But she's my roommate, best friend, and yeah, we met because we were going to be random roommates because my other best friend knew her.
Well, like, it wasn't random.
Don't fucking say that.
Okay, but I didn't know you.
I didn't know you.
Bitch, yeah, girl.
Come on, girl.
Yes, queen.
So my really good friend, Bianca, was friends with POW, and then she was like, I call her POW sometimes.
That's like my nickname.
So if I'm saying POW, like...
Shut up, bitch.
Okay, yeah, shut the fuck up.
So, anyways...
How did you meet me then?
It's simple.
How did you meet?
We met.
Yeah, we met.
I didn't know you were about this.
Yes, girl.
I told you about this.
Let's do that again.
Ask a girl a story.
Oh, my God.
It doesn't matter what you said.
Yeah, give us the CliffsNotes version.
God damn.
I'm a student.
Yeah, how'd y'all meet CliffsNotes version?
- Talk to me nice.
- She was my high school bully.
- Thank you.
- Wow.
- Damn.
- For real?
- What?
- You beat her ass out.
- No. - I'm kidding.
- No. - My best friend was in the same sorority as her, and then we needed an extra roommate, and that was Savannah, and we became best friends. - Yeah.
Okay.
Took 20 minutes.
So you're a full-time student, no job, right?
And then highest education level completed will put high school because you're pursuing your bachelor's degree right now, right?
Yes, in business.
In business?
Okay.
Yes, analytics.
Alright, cool.
Are you a senior too?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
Single.
Alright, cool.
What about you?
Hello, my name is Fallon.
I'm 25, from Indiana.
My occupation is...
What part of Indiana are you from?
Indianapolis.
Oh, shit.
Cool.
I mean, like, I didn't go to school there.
I went to school in a suburb called Zionsville.
Okay.
Wait, you said what?
Zionsville?
Zionsville, yes.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
But also, I didn't...
But also...
No, don't worry.
That sound effect has nothing to do with you.
Continue on.
No, but yeah, I grew up in the DMV, so I consider myself from Virginia.
That's where I primarily went to school.
In my occupation, I'm a day trader, and I also DJ. I'm a piano at night.
Oh, nice.
So that's my vibe.
So your main gig is you're a day trader, but at night you play piano?
Amapiano.
It's an Afro house, kind of like Afrobeads, but it's from South Africa.
It's more of like an EDM dance kind of vibe.
Is that your background African?
No.
Actually, you know what?
Honestly, I took a DNA test.
I think my grandfather is part Gambian in Cameroon.
I don't really know my mom's side, but yeah.
Okay.
Whatever you do, don't start killing people and thinking...
That's how they caught a couple serial killers is through those DNA websites.
Oh, damn.
Oh, no, I'm good.
And I'm in a committed relationship.
Oh, good job.
What's your highest education level completed?
So I did do some college.
I went to American University in Washington, D.C. College wasn't for me.
Dropped out and started a business at 19.
I did marketing consulting for five years before I started trading.
Okay.
So high school is the highest completed.
Yeah.
And then you said you're in a relationship.
How long have y'all been together?
2021, September.
So, what is that?
Two years?
You guys just broke two years.
Okay.
How'd you guys meet?
Instagram.
Who slid in whose DMs first though?
They slid in mine.
Okay.
Hold on.
What did he say though?
Hey, girl.
What was it?
No, you know what?
I had posted a story where I was cooking for myself.
And they were like, oh, you're a chef.
And they went to my business Instagram.
They're like, oh, you're smart, too.
And I was like, not flattered at first, because, you know, anybody can say that.
But the conversation went on and it evolved from there.
Be honest.
When he messaged you, right?
Yeah.
Did you see his page after that?
Uh-huh.
Did that determine if you responded or not?
His page?
How he looked?
What was on it?
No.
His followers?
Not fully.
No, no, no, no.
Not followers.
For me, that stuff is, like, materialistic.
I'm someone, like, that kind of moves for my soul.
So, for me, the conversation is very important.
The energy between that...
But be honest, though.
I guarantee you got other DMs, but you didn't respond to those.
What made you respond to him?
For sure.
Um...
I think it was the energy.
The conversation felt generic.
I understand.
No, no, no.
Was it the vibe?
It was the vibe and it was like the authentic...
Wait, hold on.
I knew it!
What does he do for work?
Real estate, so off-market real estate.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
People say real estate, you've got to clarify.
Is he a real estate investor?
Is he a fix-and-flipper?
A wholesaler, so off-market wholesaling.
Okay, so he finds deals and gives the contracts to investors.
More so, like, governs the contracts and gets a fee for governing between the buyer and the seller.
That's what, okay.
Okay, well, I'm not familiar with the terminology.
It's not my industry.
That's fine.
She's like, it's money.
That's fine.
Alright, fair enough.
But notice, right, he commented on her hobbies and interests about her looks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Smart man.
Right.
Not my looks.
I mean, obviously I know that's going to play a part, I think, for any person, but, you know, I don't think that was the most important thing.
Anyway, good job.
A lot of people are meeting via Instagram, so that's fine.
What about you?
What's your name?
My name is Renee.
Hey, y'all!
What's your costume?
My costume.
Feminist.
Um, I mean...
Are you a feminist?
Am I what?
A feminist?
I don't resonate with that term.
Okay, so what's your costume?
You guys told me to wear business casual clothing, so...
Okay, businesswoman.
Alright, cool.
Alright, what about you?
Alright, my name is Renee.
I'm 21.
Where are you from?
I'm originally from Miami, but I lived in West Palm for a little bit.
West Palm?
Yeah.
Oh, sorry to hear that.
Oh my god.
Shit, dangerous.
Alright, what do you do for work?
The nice part, I lived in Wellington.
Just to clarify.
What do I do for a living?
I'm in law school right now.
Okay, so you're a full-time student?
Part-time.
No, she eats niggas, bro.
Part-time, part-time.
Part-time student?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so do you have like a job then?
Yes, I have two jobs.
What are those jobs?
I work in construction, and I also am a registered pharmacy technician.
Nice!
So she beat niggas and then sent them to law school.
What, Chris?
What'd you say?
She beat niggas and then she sent them to the courthouse, man.
Why did she be niggas?
Because she works at construction, so she's strong as fuck, right?
I mean, she's strong, you know?
Not physically, I just do the behind the scenes, so like building permits and just camera.
She's in the office, man.
- Oh, shit.
- Oh, shit. - Oh, shit. - Oh, shit. - You be out there with the hard hats and shit.
- Okay. - All right, so you do the, you work in construction, but you're, like, what do you do in particular?
Are you handling paperwork, logistics, HR? Yeah, so paperwork, clerical work.
So if someone wants a permit, then I go through all the requirements with them.
It's pretty much my dad's company, so he's walking me through it.
You're basically your dad's assistant.
Yeah, I'm going to take it over in a little bit.
And then, what's your highest education level completed?
I got a bachelor's from Law and Society and Philosophy.
And yeah, I went to FAU. So you graduated early?
Yes, I graduated last year.
And you said it's law and what else?
Philosophy.
And then relationship status?
Very much single.
Actually, I'm married to the money.
That's some shit I would say as the rapper.
What's the costume?
I am a cheetah because I don't cheat, but this is my favorite animal because I run fast.
I do the track.
- I don't think it's a cheetah. - That's a cat. - Cheetahs have dyes.
- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- What is cheetah?
You guys are tied to your ass.
- No, no, no, no. - What's that wrong?
- Let me fix what you did. - This episode brought to y'all niggas by Discovery Channel.
- Hey!
Okay, I'm a cat.
Someone in the chat was like, is that Fat Cat?
Yeah.
I was like, what the fuck?
Okay.
Fantastic.
I guess we can read some of the chats here.
Go ahead.
Hey, guys.
From this point forward, we're only going to read 20 and up.
However, all the chats that came through before, we will read them.
Fresh, can you get this real quick?
I said Garfield.
Wow, that was foul.
I don't know.
Oh my god.
Pim says, you can give her a house, but the street is always right in front of her every day.
Okay?
Cam says, you helped me realize my mistakes, faults, and what went wrong in my last relationship.
It made me emotional because I blamed her more than myself.
I can now take accountability for all my faults and negatively impacting her when we were together.
Okay.
John May says, ladies, is being very drunk a valid excuse for cheating?
Pia, shout out to Mocula.
Is that true?
Is that valid?
No.
Absolutely not.
You don't have self-awareness and control when you're drunk.
You're just being who you really are.
I think my ex wrote that comment.
We got here, John May.
I just went around and I'm like, what?
Ladies is being very drunk or valid.
An excuse.
Where was it?
For cheating.
Fresh dog.
Oh, fresh dog.
Yo, Icy, as a nun, is straight disrespect to all Catholics.
W, Father Poxon.
I'm not Catholic.
What are you?
What are you?
Fantastic.
What are you?
He wants to know.
I believe in God.
That's it.
Well, she used to be a witch, but she...
Oh, shit!
Damn!
Okay, where are we...
Fresh, you got the next one.
Okay, we have here...
John May says, Ladies, what is the difference between a woman that doesn't have sex with her man and a roommate?
That's a strict question.
They're both stupid.
I get it.
That's not your roommate.
It's your friends with benefits who pays half the rent.
No, they're both stupid because he's not specifying what he's saying.
That's dumb.
Both of them are the same shit.
Both of them is the same shit because you're not specifying what you're saying because you're not getting no ass from neither one.
Okay, good job.
Ben at the Offender says, Chris needs to give his...
You read the new one.
One second.
Chris needs to give his pulp hat to Fresh.
Nah, bro.
Definitely not.
Yeah.
Okay, what's next?
WCEO Network, and that's from Mosh XD. He goes, WCEO Network out here in Columbia smoking a cigar with the boys watching the show with FNFC. Shout out to you, my friend.
We'll be there on Saturday and Friday for the CEO Network meetup in Columbia.
Shout out to everyone going there.
Mosh, what up?
Shout out to Mosh.
Cam2Time says, question, ladies.
If you and your man goes out to a haunted house and he makes you go in first and stay at the front the whole time...
Okay, first off, he's a bitch because why are you scared?
Like, first off, as a man, no, listen, listen, listen.
As a man, like, you should be protecting me.
So if somebody's coming to me and I'm not aware of my surroundings, I'm going into an area where I'm like, I'm not comfortable.
As a man, you should take the lead.
Come on.
But to be fair, in equality terms, aren't we equal?
You said you the shield?
Okay.
But I feel like...
People should experience it first, you know?
Oh, no.
Ladies first?
Ladies first.
Okay, so since you mentioned equality, so let's run it back.
That means both of us should be going in together.
So we can experience the experience equally.
But chivalry says ladies go first, right?
- Okay.
- So you get both, equality and chivalry.
- Was he holding me by my hips?
Are we going in together?
- Okay, so you're saying no for sure it's bad.
What about you? - I don't think it really matters.
I think that society puts these weird like standards on masculinity and femininity and you never know like how someone grew up like maybe that person that you're with is scared of haunted house type stuff but they want to do it with you because they're your partner.
You know what I mean?
So, I don't really think that it matters.
I'm not, like, thinking about who should do what first.
So you're telling me if you're at home, it's two in the morning, you hear a noise, he's scared.
You going downstairs?
I'm coming, my man.
I mean, no, but also...
What the fuck?
I don't mean it like that.
Like, when I say no, I'm not saying that I'm not also getting up to and grabbing my personal weapon.
Like...
No, the nigga's scared of everything.
Well, I don't...
Then that's not your nigga.
Nah.
Well, I think that's kind of like you're talking about the situation in a one-way type of way.
But imagine, he's scared in a haunted house.
Imagine a real life.
It's a haunted house.
But haunted house stuff is half the time not really real.
Someone breaking into your house is fucking different.
You have a different adrenaline and something that's fake.
I'm trying to be fair to say if they're scared of something that's fake that they'd be really scared of something that's false.
Can I say something?
Well, I don't know.
I think they're both the same.
I'm a female.
He's a male.
He get in front of me.
Handle that shit.
Girl, no.
He's a man.
Do your thing.
But also, if you grow up, like I grew up with a single mom.
I'm an independent type of person.
I know how to fend for myself.
Oh, independent.
I mean, I'm in a relationship, but also in that relationship, I'm independent and I'm self-reliant.
I don't depend on someone else to make me feel safe.
You're a girl.
He's a man.
Let him go in front.
Okay, that's your thought.
That's not my opinion.
I just feel like, you know...
So it doesn't matter?
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
Like, I also have to...
I'm one person in a world and each person is an individual.
I have to also be able to depend on myself.
I can't just, like, latch on to someone else and expect them to, like...
Just know if there's a gunfight or robbery, you fight it for yourself.
I would say...
My man is gonna take care of me!
Miss Swan, what about you?
Haunted house, you going first?
Do you care?
I mean, I don't really care.
Like, how scary can a haunted house really be if you know it's fake?
Like how she said, like, I'd be more scared of someone breaking into my house than a haunted house.
What if it turns real?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Like, what happens if, like, the chainsaw just continues and then, you know...
Then that was your fucking fate.
Get over it.
Damn!
Oh, she's spicy with it.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Your man gotta go in front.
You gotta be fucked up.
Okay, well, that's fine.
that's fine that's fine that's my man that's fine that's my man if he's a man he's gonna be in front okay but then maybe you're a scary person okay I'm gonna be scary cause I'm gonna let my man take the lead cause I'm gonna let my man one mic at a time guys I know uh you guys like to argue and talk over each other okay but let's also think about this let's also think about this so many men have issues with women Why are you trying to make your man soft?
Oh, shit.
Okay, I'm sorry.
You don't even know my life, so you can't, like, speak.
No, no, no.
She's not saying about your manner in general.
No, but I'm not making someone soft.
She's saying, like, in general.
Okay, so...
Okay, but what I'm saying is, like, what does someone else being soft have to do with you being strong?
I get it.
I get it.
Do you know what I mean?
I get it.
We understand sometimes it's okay to be independent, but in this day and age, men are feeling less than because we're not letting them be themselves.
Okay, but that's different than a fucking haunted house.
Oh, shit!
What's gonna make a man feel special about going front in a fake house haunted house?
A man taking you to a gun range to learn how to fend for yourself?
Real quick, context is...
You're right, it is a haunted house.
However, this stands for more than just a haunted house.
So deep down, it's way more than that, but okay, we'll move on.
It doesn't matter either, right?
What about you, Ms.
Mouse?
I think he better come up with another idea and say, let's not go to a haunted house if he's scared to go.
He has to figure something else out.
Let's go to a party.
Let's get dressed up and go somewhere else.
No, but he goes and he cowers out.
He didn't realize until he got there.
He was like, damn, this is actually pretty scary.
He has to face his fears that day.
So you're saying don't be a pussy?
I mean...
Okay.
What about you, Miss Ferry?
Alright, so he's in the haunted house, and he's scared, and he's behind me.
He's putting you in front.
He tells you to go in front.
So, babe, I trust you so much.
You go ahead.
You can hold my purse, then, since you're so scared.
I'm swinging, since you're so scared.
Whatever, I got you like you got me.
Question, though.
Would you still respect him after that?
No.
Respect him as a man for being scared of a haunted house?
Mm-hmm.
I'm gonna talk to him.
I'm gonna be like, yo, what was that?
You gotta let me know.
Like, I can't be out here fending for you because you scared of a haunted house and you didn't let me know what's up.
You have a phobia.
Like, this is where I have a chance to get to know him better and be like, what was that?
But be honest, though.
Would you lose traction a little bit?
Attraction?
Just like a little bit?
Like, this guy's not a man?
I mean, no.
Everybody's got their phobias.
I'm afraid of spiders.
If there's spiders up in that bitch, I'm not going up in there.
So, he'll be alright.
I mean, honestly, I'm gonna break up with him because it's like, it's just a haunted house.
Like, why are you being soft?
You know what I'm saying?
There's no way.
He gotta take lead.
What if, as a kid, a clown, I want to say harassed him.
Wink, wink.
What's your definition of harass?
You don't want to know.
Oh, hell no.
Okay, Miss Black Swan.
Honestly, I would rather be in front than the guy because I don't like the fact that I can't see the shit behind me.
So I'd rather have him behind me because they're kind of guiding you through.
You get me?
But if he didn't ask me where I wanted to go and he was just like, I'm going here, you're going there, I would probably just be like, you're kidding, right?
You're a man.
You're telling me where you're going to go?
Are you scared?
But equality, though.
Like equality, but not equality.
It's the same shit.
I'm with her on this.
If there's somebody coming in the house and robbing, I'm not getting out of bed.
I'm going to cover the blanket over my head and say, go deal with this.
What's the word?
Equity.
Equality to a degree.
Thank you.
I like that answer.
It's like a term that I learned.
Equality to a degree, not a haunted house.
When you think of people that are like...
It's like you want to be on the same playing field, but yet nobody started at the same starting line.
Okay.
So, wouldn't that be fair to say you can't be equal then?
I mean, yeah, it's fair.
Interesting.
What about you?
I already answered.
Like I said, my man is going to be a man.
I'm going to be a female.
I'm going to go behind him.
I'm going to hold his hand.
He's going to hold my hand.
He's running.
He better hold me.
You better not leave me behind because I swear to God, if you leave me behind, it's going to be your ass.
No, I'm sorry.
I am a female and my man is going to be a man.
I know I could be a little tough and try to take the lead sometimes.
Thank you to my man.
Thank you to my man.
My man.
Yes, I'm sorry.
Let me be honest with you.
I know it's a hypothetical question.
It's just about Halloween.
But in life right now, men are feeling less than because females are always trying to take the lead and being independent.
I get it.
It's just a Halloween question, a hypothetical question.
But in real life, If you take this question into, like, seriosity, like, I know that's not a word, I know it's not a word, I know.
I like that.
Seriosity.
I like that one.
I'm so serious.
If you take it there, you think about it, you gotta let a man be a man sometime.
We're made from a motherfucker's rib, okay?
So he gonna be in the lead.
No.
No.
Okay.
No.
We got it.
Jesus, you got anything to say on that?
I think she quoted you or something.
Yeah, seriosity.
Seriosity.
I'm already scary.
No.
Facts.
Okay.
I'm a believer.
What about you?
Who said my name so right?
Who said it right?
I mean, I believe like how we were talking, like a man should lead and a woman, you know, should be submissive to the man.
I've always believed that when she has a man, you know, I also believe that women have the right to be independent when they don't have men.
They have to do what they need to do to survive.
So I, but in a haunted house situation, Baby, hold me by the hips.
We're doing this together.
Hold me tight.
I'm going to hold you tight.
We're going to do this together because it's about being together and building a relationship.
And if your man has fears, you want to work through your fears with your man.
You want your man to work through your fears, vice versa.
And then after that, you could give him the right pussy because he took care of you right after that.
You're going to give him the right pussy because right after that he took care of you.
He made you feel safe.
You got out of that.
Even though it was a fake saw, it don't matter.
But he going to saw this pussy though because he took care of you.
I'm sorry.
No, I'm sorry.
My man is going to be a man and that's it.
She's ready for the...
What the?
What the fuck?
Bro, it just looks like a hat.
Tequila!
We got FNF goes, being fat as a man is way gay because fat men have boobs.
Fat men are feminine, weak, and your own fat makes your penis smaller or even hide it.
So being fat is gay fresh.
chris mo I don't like my generation which is Gen Z specifically because it seems like they need to have this constant record record a video or post pics of every walking moment of waking moment of their life thoughts well Well, that is the future my friend.
Who here is, actually, how many of you guys are Gen Z? A couple of you guys are actually Millennials.
And then we have, alright, you're a Gen Z-er.
I think you would be considered a Gen Z-er.
And then, let's see here, you're a Gen Z-er.
And then Paulina is also a Gen Z-er, right?
Yeah, you guys.
Does everyone in your age group feel the need to record things and it's annoying?
Start here.
Yes, yes, all the time.
Are you always on social media too or no?
No, so I do social media detoxes because in order to function personally, I can't be seeing everything people post and I can't be posting everything that I do.
Also for my safety, I got into an incident where this guy was stalking me and honestly I was like, yeah, I can't be posting everything.
Damn, okay.
And then we got here next.
Yeah.
I think I have phases.
First of all, I'm a mostly digital entrepreneur.
My consulting business before I started trading was online, social media.
I got my client base from there.
But outside of that, are you on social media like that?
I would say yeah.
I mean, that's how I kind of network.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, what about you?
I feel like everyone in this stage is different.
Some people will post more than others at certain times.
Maybe sometimes I can post more than others at certain times.
You think that's something that's fucking up your generation?
I mean...
I know.
Your friend is smiling, so what does that mean?
I just want to say something.
So, as Pau's best friend, she carries around this digital camera, and literally it has been said by multiple people that we have never met someone who takes more pictures in their life than Pau.
You don't post a digital camera.
I take pictures on a digital camera for the memories.
And then you get them developed, and then you put them in a book.
Oh, I actually have done that.
I do have an album.
You can take pictures to a degree, but obviously I love Pao.
She's my best friend, but she takes so many fucking pictures, and sometimes I get so pissed.
Last night, she was trying to do that shit, and I was literally like, no.
Stop.
Tell me more.
Can I add something really quickly?
Yeah.
One thing I want to know is the fact that like a lot of people are more confident texting and video chatting versus like in-person interactions and I feel like social media has affected people's ability to like communicate with each other face to face.
Being more present.
Exactly.
Being in the moment, you know?
All right.
That is true.
Okay.
Anybody else have any comments on that?
Jen's ears?
No.
Okay.
We got here, and I got some questions for ladies as well.
Don't think I prepared for this one.
Whole last Pokemon passage next to Myron.
Freshest dog.
Okay.
We got here, Mo goes, I need help.
I'm stuck between two girls, and one is hella bad, and I'm more attracted to her, but a hoe, and that's just what's the fuck.
The other is feminine, loyal, and really likes me, but she has a 6.5 out of 10 out of looks.
Who should I go for?
Ugly one.
I hate to say, yeah, the 6.5 is going to be a better girlfriend overall, man.
But how do you know that?
No, the bad one could be a good one.
Well, yeah, but it's also like if you get in touch with yourself and figure out what your values are.
He said that.
He just likes the other one for sex because she's hot.
And then he said the other one he likes.
But is the sex his actual primary values is what I'm asking.
So you are a feminist.
I'm not a feminist.
I don't, and even if that's what you describe it, then fine.
I mean, I'm not out there, like, doing, like, no, I'm not.
But I'm asking, like, okay, what are your values?
Because you have to do in life what aligns with your values.
If he really loves sex and that's what he really cares about, then maybe he should go with the badder one who he's more attracted to.
That's what I'm saying.
Nah, he should be careful.
He should be careful fucking with two girls, though.
Because if he's fucking with the first one, he said the first one's a hoe, he better be careful not to give the second one some type of STD. Especially true.
Because that's important.
Health is wealth.
What if she don't even know?
What if she don't even know?
Yeah, bro, you're better off wifing the girl that isn't a whore.
I will take a pointer down in SMV. But what if he called the baddie a whore because she's just a baddie and she's not really a whore and he don't even know her like that?
That's true.
I mean, he knows.
He didn't say that.
No, he don't know.
But he didn't specify.
He didn't specify.
She probably has some traits that are alarming that make him say, well, this girl probably is promiscuous.
Things could be deceiving.
Such as?
A lot of people deceive a lot of things.
Like yourself?
Yeah!
Anyway, back to what I was saying.
Certain girls have certain traits that might disqualify them from a serious relationship.
And that's what he's basically saying.
Like, hey man, she's hot, but she has some red flags.
I mean, when you date guys, I'm sure you have red flags, right?
A lot of them.
We were just talking about that back there.
Me, myself, or them?
Like, they have red flags that you could pick up on, right?
Yeah.
Okay, wouldn't it be fair to say that if a guy has a couple of red flags, he might say, I don't know if I'm going to deal with this.
Let's say he's a brokie and he lives with his mom.
Would you fuck with him?
Okay.
So, you could disqualify him, but why can't a guy disqualify a girl?
But what if she really isn't a hoe and he thinks she's a hoe and she's actually a good girl?
What if he's not really broke and he just lives with his mom?
Damn.
True.
True.
What if he's a kidnapper?
See, women always want you to give the benefit of their doubt.
Right?
They always want you to give them the benefit of their doubt, but they want to give you the benefit of their doubt.
Well, the real reason why I mostly think that about a guy is because they're not motivated to get out of the house once they're stuck in the house.
Maybe he's a millionaire and he just don't want to leave his mom.
But that's fine, but even if he's a millionaire and he don't want to leave his mom, he's not going to be motivated to leave his mom now that he got a girl.
Maybe.
Maybe he's working for a big goal.
Not every guy is like that.
Some guys.
What I'm trying to establish here is that you wouldn't even give him a chance because you would think he's a brokie.
No, I give people chances.
Okay, bro.
Stop the cow.
Where are we at here?
Wait, you do give people chances?
Yeah.
What about a guy in the parking lot?
Who's in the parking lot?
No.
I'm going to leave that alone.
Nate Hagers goes, is Fresh the Host or in the Middle?
Okay.
I think he's saying like a fairy.
Anything else?
Okay.
Who is more toxically masculine, this generation, men or women?
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Okay.
Okay.
Who's more toxically masculine, men or women, in this generation?
What do you guys think?
I personally think that in the Western society, their agenda is to make the women more masculine, to separate family and traditional values.
I think that's what's going on.
I told myself that.
I think that that's what's happening in America right now.
And I think that's the answer to the question.
I think the question was, who's more toxic than the masculine, right?
Men or women?
I think the better question is, who's more toxic?
Oh, toxic.
Men or women in today's society?
I would say women.
Okay.
Why?
Because women are sneaky sometimes.
Okay.
That's it?
That's it.
That's my answer.
They're sneaky sometimes.
Let me write that down.
What about you?
Who do you think is more toxic nowadays?
Men.
Why men?
Because they know what they're doing.
Who hurt you?
Because they ain't shit.
When you say they know what they're doing, what do you mean in particular?
They know they're pushing your button on purpose.
They know they're pushing your button on purpose.
They know what they're doing.
They know they got that.
Good, good.
It didn't harass you.
It didn't leave you.
What the fuck, man?
Is that coming from personal experience?
Yes, it is.
No!
It definitely is.
She's a stripper, dog.
Emotional damage!
Well, we're speaking in general, not off of guys that you've dealt with personally.
No, in general, men are the toxic ones because you guys make us go crazy.
We don't go crazy.
Y'all do it.
I mean, you're a stripper.
It don't matter.
They don't got nothing to do with what y'all do.
I mean, don't you make our dick go crazy when you're on a pole and shit?
You know what I'm saying?
You're like, oh my gosh, we can't control it!
I just want to smash you.
What does that have to do with the toxicity?
Me being on a pole is not toxic.
Yeah, because we ain't fucking us.
Like, you're teasing us.
So that's toxic.
Okay, but I'm...
I don't know.
Being toxic is my penis, man.
Okay, but you think...
I still think men are more toxic than females.
And the reason specifically is because they get a rise of emotions?
No, because y'all know what y'all doing and y'all claim it's us, but it's y'all.
In a story, I will not blame myself ever.
I just think that women are better at being sneakier than men are.
Okay, so are you saying that they're able to manipulate emotions better?
There you go.
Okay, let me ask you this though.
Do you think women are better at manipulating emotions in general or men?
Okay, so you got me.
Oh, okay.
By your logic, it's really women then.
Okay, so I didn't want to take the blame, okay?
She didn't want to be accountable.
That's what it is.
Okay.
Told you, man.
That's toxic in itself.
Yeah, there you go.
Alright, what about you?
Who do you think is more toxic nowadays?
Men or women?
I'll be accountable.
Women are definitely more toxic.
And I think it's because we have, like, way more just, like, information on our hands.
Like, with social media and stuff, we can find anything out that we want to find out.
And it's so easy to do it, too.
Like, literally give me a five-minute search on Instagram.
Spectra gadget.
Right now you call your homegirls.
It's like, yo.
My thing is, how does investigating things or doing your research make you toxic, though?
So for example, if a guy's talking to another girl, but it's kind of on the DL, he has a roster, and you're on the roster and another girl's on it, and he's talking to both of you at the same time, but he doesn't want you guys to know that he's talking to both of you, you find it out, you can lowkey use it against him and be like, I don't know, just kind of say toxic shit.
You know he's talking to someone else, so you'll fuck with his emotions and be like, oh, I'm talking to someone else.
So you're saying you can play the game?
Yeah, we can play it back.
But we have more tools to play it back better, I guess.
So would you say that you created the game yourself, as women?
No, I don't think we created the game, but I think we're just good at playing it.
Well, I mean...
I'm not saying that's a good thing.
Cleopatra had a good game.
Do you think men would prefer to play games with women or just be straight up and say, hey, I just want to have sex?
They definitely would rather just be straight up.
Okay, so who actually starts the game then?
The females.
The females, for sure.
Interesting.
All right, what about you?
Who's more toxic, men or women?
Well, I'll just say from my experience, I'm a little toxic.
I mean, you know, you like to have them marinate a little bit and then just kind of play chess a little bit.
And then it's like, I want to see how hard they try, you know?
And then like when you block them and then they reach you on email, I'm like, damn, you know?
So, I'm not gonna lie, you know, I feel like, yeah, we do kind of manipulate men, you know, but if we really like them, we won't.
Facts.
Wait a minute.
Why are you making those faces?
What are you talking about?
No, because I'm, like, honestly perturbed by so many answers.
Wasn't it you that did something with your ex?
What do you mean?
Like his car or something?
Oh, no, he fucked up my car.
I didn't fuck up his car.
Why did he do that?
Well, he went crazy and he just broke my windshield.
I don't know.
What'd you do?
Nothing.
He just got tight.
What you want?
That's crap, bro.
I don't know.
Something's up.
You did something, man.
Interesting.
I did something?
Who knows?
You guys were saying something?
Fallon!
No, I'm just perturbed by some of the answers.
Fallon doesn't like that where it's just so like...
You call her Fallon?
That's my name.
Jimmy Fallon.
What has you perturbed?
Guys, that means a disturbed state.
I haven't heard someone use that word in a very long time.
She was so disturbed by us.
I think that like...
In this culture of social media and...
Oh, it has to do with the question?
Yes.
Okay, okay, I'll come to you then.
Yeah, it does.
Sorry, I thought it was something else.
No, no, it has to do with what she said.
Okay, go ahead.
I'll give her a chance to respond to it and gather your thoughts.
Okay, who's more toxic, men or women, in general?
For the sake of this argument, I'd say men.
Simply for the simple fact that they've learned to gaslight and make it seem like women are delusional.
Do you think a majority of men have the skill set to be able to prove female delusion, though?
Do you think a lot of guys even have the knowledge that a lot of women are delusional?
You know, some men are simply just...
I think so.
What's the word?
Remember, it's the majority.
The majority?
Yeah.
Because you're saying a lot of them gaslight women into, you know, hey, you're delusional, blah, blah, blah.
But are most men even aware that women are delusional in your opinion?
I don't think most of them are aware.
I think a lot of them are learning to be aware with just themselves.
Okay.
So does that make the majority of them toxic then?
If only some of them are aware that women are delusional?
I'd say a good majority of them.
You just said it was some a second ago.
Probably like, yeah.
I'd say probably like about 50.
50-50.
Really?
So that's not a majority.
That's not a great majority.
Now that you broke down the question, no.
It's not.
Okay.
And then as well, is gaslighting even real?
I think so.
Because back in my grandparents' day, that wasn't even like a word.
But we're not in our parents' day anymore.
Wait, hold on.
Who made up that word though?
I don't know who made up that word, but it did come from more psychological.
That's what I would say.
The reason I say we're not in that day is because I see my examples of 36 years of marriage.
I don't know anybody in this day that I see them celebrating stuff like that.
People give up so easy on love now.
Where's your husband?
Exactly!
We all give up so easy because we see the red flags and we're ready to run.
So you gave up?
I've given up a few times, yeah.
I see the red flags and I'm like...
So you chose wrong?
I think we give up because we know there's better out there, but then when we go out there, then we realize there's not better.
The grass is greener.
Yeah, it's never greener.
No, we give up because we think there's better out there.
And then when we get out there, it's not.
Whose fault is it for thinking it was better and then making the move and then realizing it's not better?
Both of our fault because we could have worked on each other, but we didn't.
I think it all started going wrong with my space.
It's both of our fault.
Because one person is not listening to the other.
Wait, say that again.
It's both of your fault because what?
Because we could have been better with each other.
We could have done better with each other.
Well, who initiates most of the breakups?
I'm not a kind of girl that break up with people.
I just walk away.
That's ghosting.
Well, that's not because I don't technically say it's over.
I didn't shoot him.
I just pulled the trigger.
What the fuck, brother?
What about you?
Female logic makes sense.
What about you?
Who's more toxic nowadays, men or women?
I think both are equally toxic, but if I had to pick one, I would say men.
Why so?
Why?
Because men are so driven by flesh and then they judge women for what they, like, okay, so they would, they try to have sex with as many girls as they can and not really intentionally be with them, but then judge the woman for having sex with them.
When you're both in bed and you become one in bed, you know, like, it's like.
I mean, you're equal when you get in bed together.
That's what I think.
So is it that men are trying to get sex from women is what makes them toxic?
I think it's toxic, yeah, because, I mean, most aren't honest about not wanting monogamy.
Okay.
That's toxic.
Okay, fair enough.
Would it be fair to say that a lot of women don't like a majority of men?
Yes.
Okay.
Are a majority of men not attractive to most women then, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Do women go out on dates with men that they don't like?
Yep.
Free dinners, maybe a cool experience, maybe a boat, maybe a party here, maybe a social gathering.
They'll come as a plus one for an experience.
In general, yes.
Yeah.
Who do you think is more successful at accomplishing their goal?
Men getting sex without giving up monogamy or women getting free dates and attention without giving sex?
I mean, it depends on your intention.
Who's more successful in the genders?
Oh, who's more successful in the genders?
I guess women because men are the chasers.
So by your own logic, wouldn't that mean women are actually more toxic?
Well, I don't think women are more toxic because I'm talking about people who are looking for a relationship, not just...
Like, women that are looking for a relationship won't date somebody that they don't want to date.
They're going to date somebody intentionally.
Really?
Yeah, but, I mean...
What I'm saying is that...
Because, like, by your logic, you're saying it's toxic that men have sex with girls and sell the dream of monogamy, but then I can make the same argument that...
It's toxic that women go out on dates with men that they don't like and get free dinners, free experiences, etc.
And let's ask ourselves, who's more successful at finessing?
Is it men more successful at finessing sex without giving monogamy?
Or women finessing free dates without giving up sex?
I would argue it's the women that are more successful.
So by your logic, women are more toxic.
Gotcha, bitch!
I guess.
But I'm talking about people that want relationships, not people that are just out here looking for fun.
But that's what all women want, typically, is a relationship.
I mean, if you're going out on a date just to have fun, you're not looking for a relationship.
You're just going out to have fun.
You're just like, oh, cool, let me just go have this free meal.
No, but they can still want that.
That's what I'm trying to say.
It's the same thing, though.
Women are able to better finesse.
It's a dance between the genders.
Women are looking for opportunities and status and experiences.
Men are looking for sex.
And I would argue women are able to get what they want way more a higher percentage of the time than men are able to get what they want.
But I don't think that makes them more toxic.
Men are just chasing more of what they want.
Women aren't going to chase them.
But they're not successful, whereas women are way more successful at what they want.
Okay, be honest.
While being deceiving, by the way.
How many girls do you know that have a guy for free dinners, maybe pay a rent, maybe for sex?
Multiple guys, right?
Yeah.
Isn't that toxic?
Matter of fact, how many niggas you got in the friend zone right now?
Oh, shit!
A lot.
In the friend zone, yeah.
A few.
Why?
There you go.
Why?
You don't know why?
Okay, so if a person generally volunteer to do these stuff, that makes us toxic?
Well, first off, you're not being truthful, are you?
What do you mean?
You have guy friends?
I have guy friends.
Do you think they're really your friend or they want to have sex?
They want to have sex.
Okay, so are they really your friend then?
No.
No.
But you have them in a friend zone, right?
So you're lying.
So who's toxic for real?
Toxic.
Them, because they're lying.
No, you're lying to them.
No, they're lying to themselves, because they're the one who came up to my face and told me they want to be my friend, but they want to get in my coon coon, like, get the fuck out of here.
And by that same logic, you're toxic for taking their attention and time.
No, I'm not toxic because at the end of the day, I am a child of God who take the benefit of the doubt, who let somebody be my friend.
Child of God, but you're a stripper.
Okay, man.
Alright, what about you?
I'm appalled.
Who's more toxic?
Shit, I'm appalled at this.
Who's more toxic, men or women?
Honestly, I think it could be 50-50 just because of the fact that I think...
If you have to pick one.
I have to pick one?
Yeah, don't give the politically correct answer.
It's a frustration.
Um...
I mean, I definitely do think, like, women could be more toxic just because they do try to finesse things in general more.
Like, free drinks, free both days, you know, all those things.
So I feel like that could be a part of it.
But how we finesse those things when people approach us?
Well, that's the thing.
Like, they wouldn't be getting it if someone wasn't offering it.
But you have to accept that's the thing.
I don't blame.
I'm sorry.
I don't blame nothing.
If somebody come up to me and tell me, hey, here's a thousand dollars for your rent.
Thank you.
No, it's not me.
It's not.
I'm not toxic for that.
I'm sorry.
No.
Okay.
What about you?
I was going to give a political answer, but since you're asking, do I have to pick a side?
Yeah.
I guess I'll say women because I feel like...
Merch.
Women are more emotional.
Okay.
And sometimes when you, if you're not emotionally grounded, you can lead with your emotions and be a little bit manipulative when you feel on the verge of potentially being hurt or being, you know, that you're being lied to.
Yep.
So, in that sense, there is a potentiality where women can be more toxic in the sense of utilizing their emotions to be a little bit more emotionally reactive.
That comes out in actions.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
And then you said you were perturbed about something before.
Yeah, I think that everything is about perspective, right?
And I think that perspective also comes from your embodiment.
And what I mean by embodiment is like the person that you choose to be or the people who you choose to be around.
Okay.
And I feel like some experiences with either dating or relationships, not necessarily that they're unavoidable, but like if you're someone who's like conscious minded and you're not choosing to engage in certain types of experiences, then there are certain types of things that you can avoid in relationships.
Okay.
And I think that letting certain things go to a certain extent where you experience the maximumness of toxicness.
I know maximumness is not a word, but let's just say that.
Then you're also a willing participant in that.
It's not somebody else's fault that you reacted in a certain way.
You're choosing to react in a certain way.
And that doesn't make you right.
But that's just what you're doing.
You allow it.
Right.
So I said earlier you should be a businesswoman, right?
That's your costume.
You should be a pilot.
Fly on a plane.
I like flying, but I don't want to fly a plane.
Who do you think is more toxic in general?
I feel like you pretty much covered everything.
So I agree with you.
No, like, I agree.
She made some good points.
Yeah, I think women are just more emotionally intelligent.
But I feel like males have the opportunity to be emotionally intelligent.
Can you define emotional intelligence for us?
I think just being in tune with their emotions.
I think, like, practicing self-care, being grounded.
But I feel like a lot more men are getting...
You think women are more grounded than men?
I'd say spiritually.
And I feel like that has to do with emotion.
I mean, there's gravity.
Who do you think is more emotionally stable, men or women in general?
Probably men.
So wouldn't it mean that men are actually more emotionally intelligent by your definition?
That's a good point.
Well, not that they're not crazy, but again, it's a generalization.
Like, this is the thing about this kind of conversation.
Everybody can make a statement, but it's your own generalization from your own perspective.
Not everybody has the same experiences.
But there's right and there's wrong, right?
No.
Somebody's telling the truth.
I think that every experience, like, I think there is right and there's wrong.
And that's where it's like you take accountability for your actions.
Just because somebody does something to you doesn't mean you have to go react and hit their car window out, right?
Right.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But at the same time, not everyone's perspective is valid.
Yes.
We live in this crazy world where we try to sit there and say, oh, everyone's perspective is valid, and the reality is it's not, because there's a lot of stupid people.
For sure, yeah.
So, I mean, and that's why I'm asking her.
I'm not saying you're stupid, by the way.
Because you said emotionally intelligent.
I said, well, define it.
But by your own definition, men actually are more emotionally intelligent.
So are women really emotionally intelligent based on your definition?
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like there's room for each gender to become more emotionally intelligent, but I feel like because women are more emotional, they have the ability to become more emotional.
I agree.
I think if anything, men are more emotionally intelligent.
I think what you're trying to say is women are more socially calibrated.
Which is like they're able to pick up social cues better and understand conversations and stuff like that better.
But if we're going to talk about emotional intelligence, not being as emotionally erratic, being able to control yourself to a better degree, I would say men in general have more emotional restraint than women do.
They're more logical.
A lot of men are feminine and have feminine traits.
I think men are just more violent.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, they get too hot.
It's the testosterone.
That's where their emotions go.
I think we're equally emotional.
It's about finding somebody that's consciously aware with your values.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
There's absolutely tons of dumb people out there.
Y'all need to watch Lifetime.
But it's about putting yourself in the environment where you're not around people that are that dumb.
I mean, the thing about it I wanted to also add, too, is like...
I feel like in a lot of instances, women are usually the ones that you don't expect them to cheat or you don't expect them to do something that's, you know, unfaithful.
So I think, like, when it comes to that, yeah, women can get away with a lot of things.
So who's more toxic then, in general?
Women, yeah.
Oh, you think women?
But when have you seen a death for love being done calculatedly by a woman?
No woman killed.
I mean, in a lot of instances, you see a lot of women marry...
No woman killed out of love.
Men, they think about it and they have like step to step to step.
Men are crazy.
Women are just...
We're intentionally...
I disagree.
We just run out of emotion.
Men, they calculated.
That's worse, by the way.
They think too much.
I do too much.
Men are crazy.
I'm sorry.
Being emotionally driven is worse than being calculated.
For sure.
You had mentioned that a lot of people give up on love.
If you see a lot of these celebrities, a lot of these people, they're married for years.
But after a while, they tend to grow apart is what they say.
So they fall out of love.
I would argue it's the woman that falls out of love most of the time.
She gets bored.
Do you feel like it's a man's responsibility to keep his woman engaged and interested throughout the years?
It's an equal situation right there.
You're supposed to do for your man as your men do for you.
I mean, the reality is, I mean, men have to put in way more work than women to get the same, you know, to get any type of attention from females, but women don't have to put any work in, really.
So I would say in a relationship, it's really mostly on the girl to keep her man.
But that's just on me.
I don't know what...
whatever.
But yeah, I think whenever you...
So you don't feel like...
Hold on, I'll explain.
Whenever the woman's in a position where the man is constantly qualifying to her and chasing her validation and doing all this extra shit, the woman feels like she's better than him.
And whenever a woman feels like she's better than you, that's an L. So she's got to be chasing your validation making you happy because men are way less likely to break up a relationship.
So who has to be in the position of leadership and the one that's adored?
The man needs to because the man has a way lower likelihood of actually breaking up the relationship if we're going to talk about relationships lasting longer.
The man needs to be the adored, not the adoree.
That makes him keep coming back home.
I understand what you're saying.
The feeling of the love and the peace that he gets from a woman.
The key reason why is because women have a higher propensity to leave a relationship, so the man needs to be the one that's more validated than the female.
So, in my question, if the woman gets bored, you don't think, for the longevity, you don't think that a man should put effort in trying to get her back on board?
If the woman loses interest, you said?
Well, like if she gets bored, not lose interest, because you can still love a person, but be bored with the relationship.
Like, we need to spice it up a little bit.
Well, that's why you have other women.
Controversial take, but that's why I'm really big on telling guys you need to have multiple women.
That's the only way you keep girls in check, is by letting them understand that their position is not promised, and you keep them competing with each other.
Can we have multiple men?
There's girls that go through life that never compete for a man in their lifetime.
Every guy that's just come to them, they've never had to work really hard to get a man's attention before.
When they find a guy that they finally have to actually fight to keep, That's when women actually start to respect it.
That's human nature in general.
You're always gonna respect something more that you work for.
And if you're with a man and you're constantly being challenged by other girls that wanna take him away from you, or he has multiple women and his attention is divided, well, you're gonna value that attention more.
And unfortunately, that's what we have to do nowadays in a society where we give women everything and we pedestalize them.
The guy needs to knock her down a peg or two to make her realize you are mortal, you're a female, you're not that special, and I'm the one that has the power here.
And that's what women respect, unfortunately.
I wish it wasn't that way.
We could treat y'all like Disney princesses, but it doesn't work that way.
Also, regarding men themselves, some of them are very good men.
They go to work, they pay the bills, they take care of you.
But some of you see TikTok, Instagram, social media, you say, you know what?
I want more than this.
I want to travel the world, get lit, have fun.
And as a result, you say, you know what?
I'm bored.
I could do better than this nigga.
And you leave.
They mentioned that earlier.
But that's what I said.
That's what I told him.
I said, I think that the long-term relationships of 36 years or whatever, those long-term relationships that people didn't walk away from, I think that started to devalue when MySpace came out.
That's why, like, when social media really started to hit, like, the internet really started to hit, that's when, because people have more options in their face.
Why'd you leave, though?
MySpace.
No, no, she realized it later.
She realized it after the fact.
It's not even that either because now that years have passed and I see what my ex has become, I don't want that.
Let me ask you this.
You said social media was a large contributing factor to the degradation of relationships.
Who do you think it poisoned more, men or women?
Definitely women.
Because I think women have more time to be at home because men are out working to be the providers.
Okay, so you think the free time, but what does them being on their free time, being on social media, what did that lead to in your opinion?
Influence on what you focus on expands.
So all the options, all the seeing, you know, like what you're feeding your mind constantly has a big outcome on what you're producing for yourself.
Real quick, how many ladies on the panel agree, you could put the thumbs up with the green or with the red, agree that social media has led to the degradation of relationships and it's mostly women's fault?
Keyword, mostly women's fault.
Okay, we'll start with social media hurt relationships.
How many of you agree?
Use the thumbs.
Okay.
You said no.
Why do you think social media didn't affect it?
Oh, I guess I understood that wrong.
I guess I understood that wrong.
I meant that it actually did.
It fucked it up.
It hurt it.
Okay.
Now, I want a green thumbs up if you think it mostly hurt women or a red thumbs down if you think it mostly hurt men.
If you think it's females that it hurt the most and fucked them up, green, if you think it's men that fucked up men, red.
Can we flip two sides?
Well, who do you think it affected more negatively?
Okay, most of you think women.
Really?
Okay, you said, okay, men.
Wait, what was it?
Red and green, I'm sorry.
Red is men, green is women.
Men more and women.
Okay, now women more.
Okay, so why do you think it fucked up the men more?
We'll start with you.
Because now the woman knows that she has plenty of options.
So it would be that way then?
You would think it would fuck up the women more, yeah.
No, I feel like it fucks up the men.
What do you mean?
Because now the woman knows that she has more options and then he's like...
Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right.
You got it, you got it.
You're right, you're right.
Why do you think it fucked up the men more?
I mean, in the beginning it might have fucked up women more, but now when women got a little more settled into social media, I think, yeah, now we're realizing more of our potential.
I understand your stance, but why do you think it's men?
That's my question.
Now?
Yeah.
Because now women know their potential and what they can do with the attention.
You're still on green.
I'm so confused.
You guys agree.
You literally just said what she said.
What about you?
Someone had a red over here.
She had green.
She thinks it fucked up women more.
What about you?
I think it's not necessarily from a logical space, but from an emotional space.
Women can be more emotional.
I think women are the people who are...
Alright, so you agree also then.
Yeah, women who are the...
Well, women who are...
You're saying it fucked up.
So you guys all agree that it negatively impacted women more?
Oh, I thought of something.
That was my question.
It negatively impacted women more.
Yeah.
Because women are more, like, emotional and they're also the ones who are more, like, stalking social media from a space of, like, looking at who's following what and who's liking what and whatever.
Okay.
I think you can grow out of that, but from a space of, like, you know...
So you agree with her.
That's literally what she was saying.
She was saying that.
She said it started with Facebook, or sorry, MySpace, that social media gave women a plethora of options.
Ladies, please pay attention on the panel.
But I am, but I'm not saying from a plethora of options like they were from the sense of like, oh, well, I know who I am and I can go get any man.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying if it hurts women more, it hurts women more because they are more emotional than men.
Men aren't necessarily going through the women's...
It's the same foundational issue, but you're saying the reason why it fucks them up more is because they're emotional.
You had something that you wanted to say?
Yeah, you guys forgot about guys in real life that actually holla at people in person.
It fucks them up because also...
We're talking about the internet.
No, I know, but you gotta also remember when guys trying to holla at you, it's not working out because they're so used to dealing with what they have to compete with in the internet.
I'm sorry.
Wait, what?
So she's saying that in real life, because of the internet, guys have to deal with a lot of stress and they don't know how to talk to women.
Because of what they have to deal with what's on the internet.
I don't know how you deciphered that.
I just said exactly what I said!
I can speak strippers.
I understand some of that.
He repeated exactly what I said, yes.
He did not repeat exactly what you said.
Yes, he did.
At all.
Yes, he did.
Yo, screpanese!
Yeah, man.
Okay, so she also agrees why the issue is.
So all of you agree that social media negatively influenced women?
Holy!
Okay, alright, so I got a question here.
So now we're going to get into my actual topic of the show, okay?
Do you think society objectifies women and why?
Yes or no?
It's up to you.
We can start.
We'll start here.
Wait, actually, did you start the last one?
We'll start here and then work our way.
Yeah.
So, do you think society objectifies women and why?
And from this point forward, guys, we're going to go 50 and up, so I'll read the chats that came in before at 20, but we're going to go 50 and up from here on out.
Go ahead.
Okay, so objectification as in seeing them as sexual objects, correct?
Yes.
So, the reasoning for that, I feel like...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
The question is...
Okay.
Ladies, please listen closely.
Sorry, sorry.
Do you think society objectifies women?
So you give yes or no.
Yes.
Up to you.
Okay.
Yes.
And then I want you to tell me why.
Go ahead.
So you said yes.
Why?
Okay.
Yes.
So I also feel like it's because women bring it upon themselves because of the demands that men require.
So I feel like because social media is a big factor as to how they see a lot of different women, how there's a lot of different options...
Women are more exposing themselves and, you know, people are becoming more used to that.
So because of that, objectification is more rampant.
Like you always see people just, you know, naked on social media, like that's more common.
So I feel like it's to meet the demands that the men have, you know, are more in tune with.
That's what they want.
Okay.
Do you think society objectifies women and why?
Yeah.
Okay.
Why?
I think that...
I don't know.
It's just kind of like an industry thing.
Like, if you notice, just like...
The attention goes where, you know, things are more exposed, in a way, on both spectrums.
So, I don't know, I think that it's kind of like something that women have chosen to capitalize on as well, so it's not necessarily just society.
It's kind of like, oh, well, I get to use my body to do these things, like, why not?
It helps me survive, you know?
Does society objectify women?
Yes or no, and why?
I think so, yes.
Because if you go, for example, if you go on Instagram and you see like an Instagram model posting like a bikini picture or something, most of the comments, not most of the comments, but like a majority of the comments can be a man saying like objectifying comments or like commenting about her boobs, like more like inappropriate comments rather than you would see a man's picture of what woman would comment on that.
That makes sense.
It didn't make sense at all.
Can you please clarify?
I feel like, for example, the girls will get more rude or inappropriate comments on their pictures from men, like a bikini model, for example, rather than a Calvin Klein model getting comments from women that are objectifying.
Do you think that's because it takes more work to build an aesthetic physique than it does to be a bikini model?
I mean, honestly, I just think it's maybe the maturity level of certain men that want to comment that.
Okay.
So you think it's strictly the maturity level of men, that comment?
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think society objectifies women, yes or no, and why?
Yes.
I think it's because men are more visual.
So that's just how they are attracted.
Like we're more attracted to like feelings, what we feel for the person.
So I think in general men are just more visual.
So yeah, we are objectified.
Because men like, yeah, that's how they...
Like what they say.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Does society objectify women yes or no and why?
No, I don't think so.
I think people just put themselves in a position to just do what they want.
For instance, like women having an OnlyFans, if she wants to put herself in that position, you know, to be glorified or egyptified or whatever, then that's her choice.
That's...
But she's still objectified.
So the question was...
In a way.
In a way.
If she puts herself in the position, yeah.
So she's choosing to be objectified.
Yeah, she's choosing.
So the answer is still yes.
Yeah.
So women are objectified.
Yeah.
Okay.
But your thing is, yes, and it's a personal choice.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think women are objectified by society?
Yes or no?
Why?
Did your eyes change color?
No, she has color contact.
Oh.
What the fuck?
Fucked you up.
So I say, yeah, same thing pretty much.
I mean, it also depends on the girl.
Not necessarily every girl is going to be posting like bikini pics.
Okay.
So, but I do say, yeah, because commonly we do, you know, we live in Miami.
I mean, I have a couple, so I can't even say no.
A couple?
Or a lot more?
Nah, maybe like a girl too, you know?
I'm at the beach, so...
What about you?
Do you think society objectifies women?
Yes or no, and why?
Yes, I think they do it because men are more visual, kind of what she was saying.
When you think of it like Hooters, obviously they have hot waitresses because people want to look at the waitresses, but I also think girls play into it more to get that attention back.
Everybody likes to get attention, so they feed into it by posting slutty pics, I guess.
Interesting.
Alright.
Do you think society objectifies women, yes or no, and why?
Yes.
Okay.
Why?
I feel like everybody is blaming men at this table.
But you gotta also remember, females look at females' body, too, in comparison.
So, yes, the body is being objectified by everybody, not just men.
It's women as well.
Because a girl's gonna look at a girl's post and be like, ooh, I like how her titties done.
I'm gonna get my titties done just like that.
So, let's be honest.
Okay.
Get it?
Let's be honest.
That was pretty good, actually.
What about you?
Do you think society objectifies women?
Yes or no, and why?
I think yes, because...
Well, yes, in Western society, because in other societies, no.
But in Western society, yes, because sex sells.
Okay.
And don't forget our mothers and our aunties be telling us that we're fat or skinny.
Don't forget that.
Come on, y'all.
Women be looking at each other.
Do you think the objectification of women is good or bad, yes or no?
Start here.
Is it good or bad?
I think that it's bad.
Bad, okay.
And let's say for female, how about this, for women in general, is the objectification of women good or bad?
So you're saying it's bad, right?
I'm saying it's bad because now it's just overboard with the social media.
It's overboard.
Okay, you're saying how it's distributed, but I'm saying why is it bad then?
Because you said it's bad, so what is your justification for the...
Well, it's bad for society if you want to go the more traditional way.
I'm talking about for women.
Do you think it's good or bad for them overall?
That they're objectified by society.
Because every single one of you said yes.
Just so I can clarify here.
The question was...
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Because I want you guys to answer the question.
You guys are going on random tangents, etc.
Do you think society objectifies women?
Yes or no, and why?
Then, I'm asking, do you think it's good or bad for women for them to be objectified in society?
All of you said yes.
Okay, depends on what the woman is...
Like, if she's selling sex, then...
If she's selling, you know...
But do you think that's good or bad in general for women then?
Depends what she's doing.
What she's trying to do with herself.
You know what's funny?
Yeah.
I want to see all their Instagrams.
So you think it's bad because what then?
Because you said originally it's bad.
The objectification of women is bad.
Yeah, because I think that it's taking society and Western society in the wrong direction as opposed to the traditional values and demasculating men and...
We're talking about women.
Well, yeah, well, it's making women look more like hoes.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think the objectification of women is good or bad and why?
It's bad because we are killing ourselves.
We are killing ourselves to stay thin, to stay slim, to stay thick, to go by the stagno that's going on on social media right now.
So you're mental.
No.
I could do that in a healthy way, just go to the gym and train.
But even though some people, they've gone to the gym and there's no progress.
So they're gonna spend money and go get...
Women have died from dealing with society and having to change their bodies.
Like, let's be honest with each other.
Come on now.
But no one made them do the BBL though.
But no one makes them, but let's remember, with people around us, the things that we hear and the things that they say to us, people could be very cruel, even though we make it seem like it don't bother some of us.
It does deep down.
But deep down, it hurts.
I agree.
But if someone tells you to jump off a bridge, are you going to jump off a bridge?
Honestly, I just went through a medical situation since last year until now, and I lost a lot of weight.
So you think it's women because they're killing themselves?
Yeah, but it's people around you.
It's people around you.
All right, what about you?
Do you think the objectification of women is bad, good or bad for society, or good for women in general?
I think it's bad for women in general because it just, like, fucks with our confidence, and ultimately, like, the guys are the ones who get, like, the end of it.
Like, if we're not confident in ourselves, it affects, like, our behavior, and then, like, obviously our man is going to feel that end of it, too.
So I feel like the objectification is just bad overall for everyone involved.
Okay, what about you?
Do you think the objectification of women is good or bad in general?
I think it's bad in general.
Because social media is giving us, like, we need to look like a certain way, and we all look so different.
And then it gets to the point that we all look like clones.
Like Kim Kardashian?
I mean, yeah, but that's the problem.
We can't be like that.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think...
It's bad.
Okay.
It's deteriorating the mental.
That's why I said the mental.
It's about the fairies.
Okay.
So it deteriorates the mental of who specifically?
The women.
The women, okay.
The fairies.
Okay.
Nope.
Alright, what about you?
I want to say both again, but I'm going to say bad because of what everybody said.
How about this?
You can say bad and then you can say specifically why for each gender if you want.
Oh, okay.
Why?
Bad.
For women first, though, because that's the main question.
For women, because we're mainly being judged off of our bodies, nobody's going to really find the person they connect with mentally, because that's all they're looking at is our bodies.
At first, yeah.
For men, yeah, but then you might overlook the person that you're supposed to be with.
Okay.
And for men, is it bad that women are objectified, did you say?
I mean, I asked you as general for society.
You said it's bad, and then you said it's bad for both.
No, I mean, it's good and bad that we're being objectified.
It's good because we...
I mean, if we want, we can take initiative and get more people if we want more guys.
Is that good for women in general, though, you think, to have more guys?
I mean, I don't think I think a woman would focus more on the guy that she likes and what body type he likes.
And that would make her change her body instead of like, like maybe a few guys she dated were like, oh, I like girls with super like fat butts.
You know what I mean?
And then she's like, you know what?
The guys I like, you know what I mean?
So it might be bad.
Have you ever had a dreams?
Hey.
What about you?
Yeah, we put that sound effect whenever a girl can't explain herself properly, but that's fine.
Oh my God.
Is it good or bad for women in general, the objectification of women?
I mean, I do definitely think it is bad because it can really affect a woman's mental health, confidence, and that's basically it.
Alright.
What about you?
Do you think it's good or bad, the objectification of women?
For women in general, and then if you want to go deeper.
In general, I guess I would say no if we're thinking about it in general, not where a woman is.
So it's good?
I mean, it's bad.
Oh, it's bad.
Okay.
Why is it bad?
Well, if we're thinking about it from a space of like if a woman is not wanting to be objectified, like she's not like on social media or on OnlyFans doing certain things, if she's walking on the street and walking by herself, walking to the store and a guy's whistling at her or coming up to her, I think that that can make a woman feel not safe to be like outside by herself or different things like that or wanting not to be seen.
So I think in that context, it's bad.
But maybe like in the sense of where a woman wants to be objectified and she wants to leverage that, which women do on social media and the internet.
Only fans.
That's why I said it depends what they're trying to sell.
It depends what they're trying to sell.
I mean, women have different opinions.
Like some people just...
So market selling their sexuality.
Yeah, if they want to do that, that's their choice.
Do you think that's the guide to long-term happiness for a woman?
No.
I don't know.
See, that's the thing.
Come on, you're smart.
No, but everybody has a different mindset.
I can't generalize a woman and say, you're long-term going to be unhappy because you're on OnlyFans.
Do you think a majority of women would get long-term happiness from sexualizing themselves on the internet?
Probably not, because most of those women are also talking shit about guys on the internet or saying that they can't trust anyone or having personal issues.
I wonder why.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, I think most of the women that I've seen who, and I'm not making a generalization for anybody out there, but I feel like most of the women I've seen who feel the need to sexualize themselves in certain ways, they also, under the surface, have deep insecurity issues and feel the need to get validation from other people in that way, whether it's a guy or a girl or a friend or whoever.
And also, I feel like, you know, they...
Have had experiences where they don't personally work through their issues of like how they've gotten hurt by someone in a relationship and they take that in and then make it be about, I can't trust anyone.
Okay, real quick, going back to what you said, because you mentioned that a lot of the girls that sexualize themselves talk shit about men and are angry about the relationship game.
Right.
Am I correct there?
Yeah.
Okay, so would it be fair to say that most women derive fulfillment or pleasure or happiness, right, from a female perspective, from being in a committed relationship with a man that they respect?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Do you think sexualizing yourself hurts that ability?
Absolutely.
Okay, so you think that they're speaking in anger because they're not able to achieve something that would bring them long-term happiness due to decisions they made?
Decisions they made or the fact that their past or previous hurt made them turn into something where they started to sexualize themselves and then kind of like expecting to still have what they previously wanted even though they're no longer a person who didn't sexualize themselves.
Would most of you at the panel agree?
I know, I understand.
Would most of you on the panel, we can use a thumbs up on this.
Green, if you agree.
Red, if you disagree.
Would most of you agree that the path to fulfillment for a woman is having a long-term committed partner that they can be attracted to, aroused by, and also is a leader and they trust, etc.
The path to long-term happiness for a woman.
Go ahead and give me a thumbs up.
How many of you?
Okay, so...
Of course.
Can you put something up, please?
Of course.
No.
Okay, so three of you think no, and then the rest of you think yes.
Okay, now, to have fun with this, because we have some dissenters, do you think a career would be able to fill that void better than a relationship with a man that you love, admire, and respect?
Oh, that's money.
I mean...
No.
Down.
I don't know.
Money?
I don't think...
Okay, let's simplify this.
Let's simplify this because...
Okay.
A career?
Or a man, marriage, and a family?
Pick.
Marriage and a family.
Go ahead.
Need to figure out what the ladies' values are here at the table.
I don't know.
Can you pick one?
If you had to choose one.
What do you think is going to lead to more long-term happiness over time for you as a woman?
A family with a man or a career?
Career.
Okay, a career.
What about you?
Me personally, a man and a family.
Okay, now in general, as I'm asking this in general, do you think most women would agree with that?
I think it's situational.
I think some women would find more satisfaction from their career because that's just personally what they're passionate about.
But the majority of women is what I'm asking.
Yeah, majority of women, I would say, have the natural instinct to just want to be like a mother.
Okay, what about you?
I mean, I would want both, but I would want to have a family.
Okay.
Definitely family and marriage.
The family.
Man and a family.
Okay.
The family.
Okay.
Marriage and a family.
Okay.
Marriage and a family.
Interesting.
Really quickly, can I add something?
Yeah.
So you had mentioned earlier how- Well, I'm with you right now.
Oh, okay.
Do you think objectification of women is good or bad in general for society?
Okay, so I'm going to reference porn.
So I feel like, for example, when a lot of men view porn, that affects their natural reality of what sex is.
Because it's a distorted perception of what it should be.
So I feel like because they see women...
Okay.
women are gonna have these certain abilities but it's not real so okay I mean that's just the reality of it but then going back to your point where you said in order to be happy in a relationship like a woman has to include like allow her man to include like other women into the relationship well that's one way to deal with it that I gave to keep a woman interested but But wouldn't you agree that that would distort the emotional connection that that woman has with her husband?
Like by inviting another woman into the situation and then continuously inviting her.
This is another topic, but first, how about this?
Can you answer if it's bad for society in general, then I'll answer your question.
Do you think a woman objectifying herself, bad why?
Um, I just feel like the constant objectification, like you see a lot of women, a lot of young girls trying to, you know, change their body.
It distorts like the natural beauty standards that society has had over time.
So I think it's just not real.
You know, you're going to have mental issues and stability.
You're not going to love yours.
There's no self-love.
So yeah, it definitely is bad.
Now, your question again was, um, would it fuck with The woman's emotional attachment, you said?
No, the union that the man and the woman have with themselves, like by inviting another woman.
Oh, well, I mean, you could do the threesome.
I don't advocate for threesomes.
I don't advocate for threesomes with your main girl.
Okay, so...
Specifically for that.
Okay, so...
Because women are emotional.
Okay, so what was your point regarding then?
Was it, like, continuously, like...
You have other women and they just...
Maybe they can be friends, but you're not, like, banging them in front of each other.
It's almost like competition, anxiety, basically.
Yeah.
So, like, the person can be, like, an emotional support.
Yeah, I mean, I have my girlfriends be friends with each other.
So then why can't you just depend on one person to do that?
Why should it just be, like...
If you add too many people to a puzzle, it's confusing.
Because men and women are different and we value variety.
Got you.
Yeah.
Men want variety.
Okay.
That's just how it is.
Women don't value variety to the same degree as men do, but that's what men want.
So that keeps men intrigued by having different women.
Yeah, it's been that way since the beginning of time.
Since Cleopatra days?
Yes, definitely since Cleopatra days.
But do you think that's going to make the man happy versus the woman?
I feel like that's more so making the man happy.
For the relationship to last, the man has to be happy.
Because when a man's happy, the woman will be happy by default.
Because if a guy is out here, right, and he's achieving success, he's making money, he's getting in the gym, he's taking care of himself, etc., the woman benefits from that.
And the guy more than likely is not going to leave her.
He's going to be more fond and attached to her because she was with him while he was building.
But when women get better and they make more money and become more successful, they look for better suitors.
That's why the man has to be in a leveraged position of power all the time with the woman.
It can never be the other way around.
When the woman holds all the chips, she's going to make your life miserable.
When the man holds all the chips, he's going to grow to love that woman even more.
So do you disagree with a man being a house, not instead of like a housewife, but like a houseman, like a househusband?
Well, let me ask you a better question.
Would you take a man seriously that wanted to be a househusband?
There you go.
Okay, so now my next question for the ladies is, so we asked first, do you think society objectifies women?
Yes or no, and why?
You guys all gave your reasons.
Then I asked, is it good or bad for society?
All of you said it's bad for society.
Interesting.
Now, my next question is this.
Do you think that society respects women less now since they've been objectifying themselves so much on the internet and social media, etc., as discussed earlier?
We can start hearing that work our way back this way.
Sorry to say your question one more time.
Do you think society in general, women get less respect than society nowadays because they've been objectifying themselves on the internet?
I feel like because it's more common, I don't think they're respected less.
I feel like it's more appreciated because everybody's doing it.
When you see somebody start a new platform and they're exposing themselves, it's like, okay, maybe I should be doing that too because everybody's doing it.
It's the new trend.
It's the new wave.
Just follow the leader.
Yeah, at this point.
So everybody's going to continuously objectify themselves because that's what's in now.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think women are getting more respect now for being over-sexualized?
No.
I think this chat that I'm seeing is a prime example of that.
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
I mean, I definitely don't think they're getting more respect for being, like, sexualized.
Okay.
What about you?
I think we were always equally not respected the same way.
Do you think women in 1952 are less respected than women now in 2023?
Yes, they used to get beat.
What the?
It's true.
They used to get beat.
And they couldn't have jobs at all.
They can vote.
They can only have assets through jewelry.
Do you really think that...
Okay.
Would you argue that...
Were men more gentlemen back then?
No, they used to hit their wives.
They were allowed to hit their wives.
That's a generalization, too.
But do you think a majority of men were actually beating their wives back then?
I mean, if you're allowed, they said you can smack your wife to discipline her.
Maybe in certain countries.
I don't think a majority of men were beating their women.
Because if they were doing that, then I don't think society would have lasted as long as it did.
But it was allowed.
Traditional relationships.
But that doesn't mean that guys were doing it, though.
What I'm asking you, do you think men respected women more back then or now?
I don't think men ever respected women.
I mean, you can make the argument that were men better gentlemen back in the 50s than they are now then?
Gentlemen, yes.
Explain to me what a gentleman does to a woman then.
Courting.
They were courting more.
They had more intention of marriages.
Opening doors, paying for dates, planning dates, maybe some roses, being more chivalrous, being more of a gentleman, right?
Isn't that the definition of respect?
No.
The thing is that...
What?
I mean, I think it's totally different.
Back then, and now it's just totally...
Back then, women just didn't have a voice, and now we have a voice, but...
Even if you're not putting yourself out there, guys will lie and say they slept with you.
There's no respect.
But we're talking about back then versus now.
I mean, we didn't have a voice.
We couldn't work.
There was no respect there.
Was it women couldn't work or they didn't want to work?
They couldn't work.
Women weren't allowed to have bank accounts until, like, 1940-something, I believe.
We could only have access through jewelry.
That's why Marilyn Monroe wrote, diamonds are a girl's best friend, because women only acquired their wealth through jewelry.
They couldn't work or anything.
Actually, that's wrong.
They got acquired through marriage, but that's fine.
Still gotta work in a marriage.
But I mean, for your own personal assets, you couldn't have any.
So, you're not really answering the question.
Were women more respected back in the 50s or today?
I said they're both equal.
I mean, that's why I'm always in the middle of everything, but I will say...
Because in one respect, you're saying men were more gentlemen and more chivalrous in the 50s, correct?
Yes, but they didn't respect women because they treated them like lust because you're able to beat them like they're your child.
I would argue treating a woman like a lady is the utmost form of respect.
It's just the hitting part that they were allowed to hit.
That's too crazy.
But hold on.
Question for you.
Back then, right?
Yes.
Because those were times you weren't even born yet.
Who told you they were being beat?
I researched it.
I looked it up.
I mean, somebody had to tell me something and I looked it up.
So you're saying every household had women being beat?
I didn't say it.
I just said they were allowed.
Like, they were allowed to discipline their women by slapping them.
I don't think that's...
Well, you can go rob a bank.
Are you going to go do it, though?
No, but why were they allowed to hit a woman?
They don't even let you spank your kids now.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you're going to do it.
Technically, you're allowed to go rob a bank tomorrow, but you're not going to do it because there's consequences, correct?
Yeah, but you asked me if society respected women more back then, and I just don't think that's respectful.
Your answer proves that they respected them more, though.
Way more.
And there were virgins, too.
More virgins back then than now.
But they were getting beat up.
Even if you're a virgin, you're getting smacked.
We're not being beat up.
That's just a point.
Now you're going to go to jail if you slap a woman.
No, but the point is, back then, the women were actually of value.
Some of them were virgins, not whores, only fans.
They were actually of value.
So respect was there.
Opening doors, paying for the bills.
You know what?
I'm going to be a fucking man to my woman.
Nowadays, to a whore, I'll fuck you, but I won't take it serious.
Make sense?
Yeah.
Stick to the cheese.
Okay, man.
Okay.
All right.
Stick to the cheese, man.
To the cheese.
What was the question?
The question was...
Stupid!
No.
Regarding...
What's the question again?
No, it was...
Stupid!
So much going on, bro.
Yeah, are women more respected now than before?
Before, yeah.
Or no, sorry, has the objectification of women hurt their respect?
Yes or no?
No.
Why?
Because women are in a position now where they're taking back their power wherever they deem it to be.
How are they taking back their power, though?
They're like, okay, you know what?
If there's a girl who's like, oh, I'm a sexy girl, you know, I'm going to take my sexiness and I'll use it to my advantage.
I'm going to get what I want.
Which is?
I've known a couple of girls to do that.
I don't know.
They be doing stuff.
But what are they getting if it's power?
They're getting things that they want done.
Like, say for instance, I know a couple of girls down here who have sugar daddies.
Okay.
And they're like, okay, well I know I'm a sexy girl, I'm going to get a sugar daddy.
Okay.
But is it really power when all of you agreed earlier that most women would want a family and children?
Don't you think having a sugar daddy in your past would affect your ability to have a family long term?
It would, but it depends on where she wants to go with her sugar daddy.
But is that power really if you're doing something that's going to inhibit your ability to find long-term happiness?
Yeah, I would say so.
So is it really power then?
To some degree.
Or is it a facade of power?
They have a choice at the end of the day.
Of temporary power.
You're asking some profound questions.
That's definitely temporary.
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Alright, so to come back, do you think it hurts their respect in general?
Because you're saying they're able to finesse and get a sugar daddy, maybe get some experiences, but that'll hurt their ability to find a man long term.
It would.
I think it would inhibit them to some degree.
What about you?
Do you think the objectification of women hurts their ability to garner respect?
But my thing is that guys don't really help the situation either because then you have a lot of guys that want to manage these girls.
So and then they kind of push it too, you know?
What do they respect them is the question?
They don't.
Okay, so the answer is no.
What about you?
No, I don't think it makes us like look more respected.
Okay, what about you?
No.
Okay.
What about you?
No.
Alright, interesting.
Alright.
So, we went over a couple questions.
The first one was, do you think society objectifies women?
Yes or no, and why?
All of you said yes.
Then we asked, do you think it's good or bad for society?
All of you said it's bad, and then you gave various reasons.
Then I asked, do you think women in general get more respected from objectifying themselves?
Most of you answered no, or some questionable yeses.
Now my next question is, If we know that society objectifies women, it's bad in general, and that they lose respect by objectifying themselves, why do women wear provocative costumes on Halloween?
Start here.
Oh, you're evil, man.
That's fucked up, man.
We'll start right here.
Why do women wear provocative costumes on Halloween, knowing that there's almost no upside from a societal perspective?
Um...
Cleopatra.
I think my outfit's in the middle.
Oh, really?
You want to stand up and show the people and see if it's objective?
We're out so far right.
Wait, is she wearing pants?
Hopefully.
Are we on Twitch?
You're on Twitch!
Come to YouTube and Rumble.
Cut Twitch.
Cut Facebook.
YouTube Rumble only.
Do you want to show them or no?
Go ahead, Cleopatra.
Do it for your fellow.
He commands you.
Show us the guts.
I think that...
She's defiant, like a character.
Very defiant.
I just think that society is different now, as opposed to before.
And so, yes, women do objectify themselves on Halloween.
But why do they do it, knowing that there's almost no upside?
For fun, for attention.
Chris, our bills.
Can you pull up their Instagrams real quick?
I want to see Jess here real quick.
Alright, why do women objectify themselves on Halloween knowing that there's almost no upside?
I'm not included in that because I've never really celebrated Halloween and wear objectified clothing.
You've never wore a costume before?
No, sir.
Ever.
And if I did, I was always a black swan.
One time, I was a black swan.
I swear to God, I've never worn a Halloween costume.
But I'm asking you in general, why do women do it?
I have no idea.
I do not celebrate Halloween.
Congratulations to the one who do.
Hold on.
In all serosity here...
Every night, she wears a costume.
Yeah.
Or like the roof.
I'm just saying.
Okay, what about you?
Why do women, knowing that there's almost no upside, sexualize themselves on Halloween?
I feel like they're not trying to sexualize themselves.
We're just trying to look good.
We want to take pictures of our fits with the girls and look good.
Who wants to look busted in a picture?
Isn't that the definition of objectifying yourself?
But it's not objectifying yourself because you're not doing it to try and look sexy or provoke someone.
You just said look good.
But look good to make you feel good.
It's a confidence thing.
I don't want to go out if I'm going to look like shit.
It's going to make me feel bad.
Okay, why not put the outfit on and stay at home then?
And not take pictures and put them on the internet for millions to see.
Honestly, I actually do get dressed and look good when I'm at home because it makes me feel more productive and I get more shit done.
Okay.
Question for you.
If a police officer wears a uniform, what do you think about him?
Offer it.
What do you mean, like...
Like, what do you think?
He's an officer?
He's wearing your uniform.
He's a cop, right?
Yeah.
So he's automatically going to protect you and serve you, right?
No.
If you wear a slutty outfit outside, what do guys think?
Wow.
I mean, it depends on each guy.
But be honest, what do they think?
Most would just, yeah, sexualize you and think you're trying to fucking show off your body.
So what are you doing now when you wear it?
There you go.
Okay, yeah, whatever.
Interesting.
Okay, so you're saying they do it for their own...
I personally do it for my own confidence.
I'm not going to speak on other women.
Okay.
So you put makeup on and you sit in the house by yourself and not take pictures and stuff?
Yes, no, seriously.
Actually, I do.
I can testify to that.
I feel way more productive.
I get way more shit done.
I can sit down at my computer.
I can do way more stuff for school than if I'm sitting in a sweatshirt and I have leggings on, my hair looks like shit, I haven't done my skincare or anything.
You don't feel good.
Feel good, look good.
When you take care of yourself, you feel good, you do better.
Are you going home tonight?
Am I going home tonight?
After the show?
No.
I'm going home and going to bed.
I'm so tired.
I'm so tired.
That's Cap.
Please.
Look at that.
That's all mine.
What?
Wait, Chris, wait.
That's Cap?
Yo.
Yo.
So this whole trip.
That was Cap.
Here again.
This whole trip.
I was out last night.
I didn't go to bed last night.
So you're not going to club right now?
No.
So you wore makeup last night, right?
Yeah.
For who?
For myself.
I wanted to look good in my pictures.
No, but you said it doesn't matter, right?
No, it does not because I want to feel good.
Like, when I wear makeup, I feel better about myself.
It's for me.
Like, I'm not putting makeup on so that you look at me and you're like, oh, she looks hot.
So it's not for attention from men?
No.
It's purely because it makes me feel better about myself.
Stop the cap!
It's the same shit with, like, an outfit.
Like, no girl wants to go out wearing an ugly outfit.
Like, you don't feel good about yourself.
Interesting.
Like, well, are we only supposed to do these things for attention and for men?
Or is it just a significant, like, does it just show that you care about yourself and your hygiene?
I would argue most women, a staggering majority, actually, you know what?
I don't want to give my opinion.
Yeah.
Because I don't want to influence what you guys are going to say.
But I'll give it after.
Okay, what about you?
Why do women objectify themselves knowing that there's no upside from a societal standpoint, as we discussed?
Honestly, I think it's fine.
Once a year?
Come on, what if she's not looking like a whore the rest of the year?
So, like, one day is not gonna be, like, the deal breaker.
I mean, tampoco you're gonna have your girl with her titties all out and everything, with her nipples out.
I mean, the little one piece.
Once a year, right?
Once a year!
What if you had a guy and once a year he wanted to kiss a dude?
Yeah, we'll see you.
Why are you all going to get into some gay shit, though?
You know what I'm saying?
It's only like, what if that guy sucks dick?
No!
I'm just saying.
It's not bad.
Once a year is fine.
Once a year is fine.
How do you go from, like, wearing an outfit to, like, going, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
I just said he kisses a dude.
Alright, that's good as hell though.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
It's unattractive for a man to be homosexual, correct?
Yes.
To women.
Okay, what if I argued and said, well, it's unattractive for a woman to dress like a slut.
To men.
That's fair.
You know what?
It depends on the man too.
It depends on the man.
There's some men that actually dig when they see their shorty looking fresh.
And when she pulls up.
When she's with them.
Yeah.
But if she's not, then it's like, what are you doing?
Oh, well, she better be with him.
Well, she's alone.
That's not your girl.
I guarantee you, lasting for Halloween, some girls are outside looking like that without their man.
Damn, that sucks.
Sucks for the man, right?
I mean, he picked the wrong one.
Okay, what about you?
Why do women dress provocatively on Halloween knowing that there's no upside almost?
I guess they just wanna have fun.
Do you think the female pursuit of just wanting to have fun has hurt their ability to find a long term partner?
Bro, you're not going to have fun 24-7, though, one day.
Tampoco?
No, it depends on the girl.
If she's promiscuous and like, okay, I want to have fun, I want to dress like a slut and do whatever I want, and bounces from guy to guy to guy to guy.
But that's the argument I'm trying to make.
When girls say, I just want to have fun, let's be honest here.
Then that's crazy.
That was just a song, though.
That's what I'm saying.
No, it's real.
It was real back then in the 80s, and it's real right now.
Check yourself, shorty.
Alright, what about you?
Do you think...
Why do women dress provocatively on Halloween knowing that there's no upside to it?
I think it's like a placebo effect.
They know men are going to choose the woman that looks the best to them.
They might care...
They do care about...
I mean, some women care about what men think.
But are they going to choose them for the right reasons?
No, but then they might be overlooked as well.
Are you really going out on Halloween looking for your partner?
Not really, but I mean, I guess if you're going to a party and something, that's what you're looking for.
So what's the purpose of sexualizing yourself then?
If it can only hurt you, and you're not going to find your partner.
So be the baddest bitch in the world.
Yeah, we're not going to look like this forever.
It's like you guys say, right?
We're on a timeline, right?
We're not going to look like this forever, honestly.
I don't have these legs for long.
So using that argument, wouldn't you want the best guy possible in that short period of time?
Well, yeah, but you know what?
I'm Latina.
I'm Latina.
My mom always tells me, she's like, mija, ¿tu no vas a parecer como esto?
For long, you know what I'm saying?
Sí, claro.
No, for real.
And even my mom has pictures where she looks fresh, and my dad pulls it up, and remind you, they're divorced, but my dad's like, wow.
I see why.
Nah, that's not true, because he still wants to be with my mom, don't even.
For sex.
Yeah, for sex.
Nah.
Okay, so a lot of you are making the argument that you have a finite amount of time to enjoy it, I guess, right?
Well, yeah.
Interesting.
But also, I think to compete with...
I mean, not to compete, but sometimes with other girls, you know, a lot of girls are beautiful, and you want to look beautiful the best you can to accentuate your assets.
If you have big titties, you're like, okay, maybe this is my asset that is the prettiest on my body.
This is what I'm going to show.
He said it's important for women to stay in competition.
I mean, I just...
Do all of you agree that women have a finite amount of time to be pretty so they should show it off?
I think that's just like really surface level way to live your life like you know if you're living for like your surface level like like I just don't resonate with that Girl, when you become old and wrinkly, you're gonna regret.
What does that mean, though?
You're gonna regret.
What does that mean?
Not making pictures, not enjoying your life when you were young.
I mean, but at the same time, I understand what you guys are saying.
I'm sorry, I just don't.
But at the same time, you don't have to show yourself to the world.
We're not saying the hoism is for everybody.
All we're saying is you're young, show them legs, show them titties, show that ass.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
Y'all be trying to be a person.
I just want to say this.
I don't think that like the way that people take pictures now is for like getting older and looking back at this memory that I had with this thing.
They're saying it's for fucking showing your titties and ass.
No, it's for Tyra Banks and America's Next Top Model baby.
That's what it's for.
Well, that's some people's mindset.
Like, that's not every woman's mindset.
Like, I don't want to take pictures to go back and be like, look how good my titties look when I was 25.
Like, who gives a fuck?
That doesn't mean anything.
Well, we do!
And we're showing our grandbabies our picture, bitch.
I'm not going to show my grandbabies when I was looking humble.
I'm going to be like, yo, grandmama was looking fine as fuck.
I was foxy.
I was that, I was that bitch.
I'm not going to raise these legs.
Can we also be honest and just say that creates a different caliber of women?
It doesn't matter.
We're all women.
We're going to die one day.
You do what you want to do for you, but that's not true for every woman.
Have you seen a fine-ass man who's not showing off his fine-ness?
Who cares?
That's what I'm saying.
That's your mindset.
That's how you think about how can I look fine.
I'm fine so I can show this on social media or show this to other people that I'm fine or make other people think that I'm fine.
If you live for that, that's how you, that's your perspective.
You're not thinking of taking a picture to be like, I'm going to show my grandchildren when I went to a fucking bird show in the middle of Florida and this thing and I was here with my family and their great grandmother died or whatever the fuck.
You're thinking about, let me take a picture of my fucking titties and show everybody how fine I was when I was young.
That's fucking dumb.
But that's what's wrong with that because that's your mindset.
That's your mindset.
I'm gonna have it.
I'm not living.
I'm going to die, and I'm going, my body, this, my body, God created your body for the earth.
This is, you're not gonna go to heaven with this.
You're soulless.
So what's the second point?
Do you want your children to make a shrine of your titties and die?
Hell yeah.
Okay, well that's your point.
When it was looking banana, when it was looking shit.
Fuck.
Fuck.
When it was up.
Everything, yes.
I mean, but at the same time.
What titties?
I ain't got no titties, you right?
I ain't got no titties.
By the way, she just dissed you.
Don't tell that from her.
But I'm okay with it.
Because at the end of the day, when I go to sleep at night, my titties ain't still forgetting me.
Wait, what?
Do you get a blanket, by the way?
It's cold in here.
Thank you so much for noticing.
What about you?
Why do women dress provocatively?
Objectification at its finest.
Why do women objectify themselves on Halloween knowing that there's no societal upside?
Losing respect.
It's bad for society.
I mean, I think it's fun one night a year to dress up as something, make it look cute.
He needs this answer.
It's fun.
It's fun.
What if you found out that your future husband, right, every October 31st, he decided to kiss dudes?
So you wouldn't accept his, you know, fun gayness every now and then.
Once a year only, right?
Once a year.
You wouldn't accept that, but he should accept you dressing provocatively on Halloween?
I mean, I'm guessing some men don't mind that.
If that's, like, you're a girl, they don't mind that.
But I'm sure, like, some straight people do mind if their partner is kissing someone of the same gender.
Maricon!
I'm just trying to give...
I mean, ladies...
And that's also cheating in general, so...
Well, I would argue it's cheating when women dress provocatively on Halloween.
How?
Nobody's touching you.
Well...
I really have to explain this?
I mean, if you're single or you have a man and maybe they love it, I feel like there's nothing wrong with that.
I have another question for the ladies after this, but that's fine.
Everything that women do is wrong.
It's nice to get compliments.
Everything you do is wrong.
Have a girl ever gone up to you and give you a compliment that you look so good in the streets?
Wait, wait, wait.
See, that's why I asked the questions earlier.
Do you think society objectifies women?
All of you said yes.
Do you think it's bad for society?
All of you said yes.
Then I said, do women lose respect for objectifying themselves?
Most of you said yes.
So clearly it's bad by your own answers.
I didn't say anything.
Everything we do is wrong.
That's all I'm hearing.
Everything we do is wrong.
You said it's wrong by your own answers.
No.
Incredible.
Yes!
Stop the cap!
Oh my god!
Okay.
All right.
What about...
So, you think it's okay because it's once a year.
All right.
And it's fun.
What about you?
I haven't dressed up for Halloween as an adult.
Maybe like once, but...
Okay.
I don't care.
Okay.
And then what about you?
Why do women object...
No, the answer is, why do women objectify themselves on Halloween?
Why?
Knowing that there's no upside from it.
I don't know.
I mean, there's characters to dress up as.
That's the point of Halloween.
It's indoctrinated in you as a kid.
That's what you do as you get older.
Even celebrities.
Yeah, but they don't indoctrinate you to dress like a whore when you're a kid.
I'm asking why do adult women dress provocatively on Halloween?
I've never identified someone who I thought was dressed like a whore for Halloween.
I don't know.
I don't think we look like whores, though.
I mean...
I don't think so, either.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I think the girls think they look good.
This is where I say a lot of times women lack critical thinking skills.
I'm speaking in general, not speaking about you guys.
I mean, if you're going to attribute it to yourself, that's not my problem.
You did that by yourself.
But I'm saying in general, why do women dress provocatively on Halloween knowing that society doesn't respect it in general?
I think it's fine.
It's once a year.
I don't know how you could jump from that to going to your man being gay.
I explained it already.
It's because a woman being a whore or dressing provocatively or being promiscuous It's the same as a man that has homosexual tendencies.
Men get turned off by girls that are promiscuous from a relationship standpoint, which is what women want, right?
You guys all agreed to that earlier, so don't go back on it.
And then women are disattracted to men that are homosexual.
So it's a functional equivalent.
I'm giving you an analogy.
Just like we don't want whores, right, for a wife.
Well, I think it matters too if you're in a relationship or not.
Or has homosexual tendencies, even if he's bisexual.
What?
I think it matters too if you're in a relationship or not.
Because if you're in a relationship and you guys dress up together, you're not going to put on like the sluggiest costume to go out with your man.
Your man should tell you like, hey, let's dress something where we're both, you know, matching and looking good together.
I saw Adam and Eve the other day.
You're a massage therapist, right?
You have to complete training to become a massage therapist, right?
Correct.
You have to be qualified for the job to be a massage therapist, right?
So wouldn't it be fair to say that a woman needs to be qualified for the job of wife?
24-7, not even on her Halloween day off, is what you're saying.
Well, I mean, if you want a job, right?
Halloween day off.
There's got to be, there's requirements that come alongside it, right?
Right.
Okay, wouldn't one of the biggest duties of being a wife or a serious girlfriend is sexual fidelity and not whoring yourself out?
Or even the image that you could potentially do that?
I mean, if you're really out there looking for a husband 24-7 as a single woman, then yes.
Okay, so there's job requirements.
Correct.
So why is it that women feel that they don't need to adhere to the job requirements, but they should get the job?
Why don't you guys just go look for a woman at the nun factory?
That's what it's starting to sound like.
Everything a woman is doing is wrong.
We gotta be covered.
We gotta do all this shit.
I didn't say that.
You said that, actually.
Yeah, but it's called reading between the lines.
It's kind of what you're saying.
You're like, listen, if you guys want to get a real relationship, you gotta be fully covered.
Don't matter.
All year round, that's what you gotta be.
Here's the interesting thing.
I asked you guys the questions before, and you guys all agreed with your own answers.
See, here's the thing.
There's a difference between men and women.
I purposely asked you guys these questions from the beginning to see what your answers would be.
All of you guys are saying, objectification is bad.
It's not good for society.
Women objectify themselves.
They're not respected, etc.
And then now that the rubber meets the road and I'm asking you guys real questions, you want to back up and say, oh, but you're telling us we're wrong.
I don't say anything.
You guys answered it.
No, you're right.
Because let me tell you, I just had this conversation with one of my other girlfriends.
She was an OnlyFans girl, blah, blah, blah.
She turned Muslim.
Now she covers herself from head to toe.
Oh, okay.
And she's like telling me.
Did she do that to secure a man?
She did.
And she's like, listen, she says that she did it for her own personal reasons, but me knowing her personally, I think she did it for marriage.
Well, smart.
Whatever she wants to do to find her man and get married works for her.
But she was telling me the same thing.
She was like, Victoria, if you really want to find a husband, you really need to start covering up all the time.
That's crazy.
Interesting.
I like how you cover your head at the appropriate moment.
Hold on!
I just find it interesting, that's all.
I feel the other questions you were asking, you weren't giving such a specific context.
I feel like this last question was way more context.
What do you mean?
So you're saying the last questions we answered, they didn't have much context.
They were very broad.
And I feel like this last question was very specific, which is why it may be looking like we're going...
That's a pretty direct question to ask someone.
Do you think society objectifies women?
Yes or no, and why?
And then I think, you know, asking women, is it bad or good for society?
That's not really that broad.
I asked you to give your reason, and then you explained it.
Save yourself.
I'm still talking.
Honestly, what this conversation has kind of proven is that you guys don't really have any logic, is what it has proven.
Because by your own answers, you guys agree with what you guys are saying here.
Yeah, it's not good in general.
It's bad for society.
It fucks it up.
Our main purpose here is to get women.
And then when the rubber meets the road and I ask you guys the real questions, wait, hold on, this is fucked up, blah, blah, blah.
But you guys already answered it.
But you tricked us.
It was by default.
Who tricked you?
It was by default.
Can I answer?
I can't do.
Trick or treat!
What the hell?
Do you have something you want to say?
I wish we had the little box.
Trick or treat!
Okay, so I just wanted to add that I think for like a lot of holidays, but Halloween specifically, it gives people the opportunity that don't participate in the objectification, the opportunity to engage.
Like, for example, I think there's a saying that's called creeping compromises, where if you make one compromise, you tend to follow suit.
So for example, if you get used to exposing your body, you know, once a year, you're going to get comfortable by the attention that you're getting, you're going to get comfortable, you know, How it feels to show yourself, like, you're not leaving anything to the imagination, that, you know, you're going to continuously do it.
So, and also I think it depends on, like, your body.
So, like, if you're more curvaceous and, like, you know, you can't cover everything.
Like, even if you wear jeans, like, your butt still, you know, is going to show.
Like, I just think, like, it really depends on the situation, but I feel like Halloween gives people an opportunity to engage.
But if they continue to do that, that's their choice.
Like, if they want to engage in the objectification, that's them.
Okay, but there's negative consequences that come from it, right, as we discussed earlier?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So, that's what I'm saying.
If they continue to engage, then they'll see the benefits that objectification brings upon them.
Question for you.
Do you think women dressed provocatively in Halloween in the 1950s?
For you?
I don't even have to research that.
I don't even know if they celebrate.
I don't know how they celebrated Halloween in the 1950s.
Do you think women dressed provocatively back then like they do now?
Well, obviously it was different back then.
I don't think so, no.
No?
Do you think women had more respect back then, then?
Because they didn't dress that way?
Yeah, because I used to get slapped.
They were gonna get slapped.
So, do you think it was because they were getting slapped, not because of the way that they dressed?
Hell yeah!
If my man could slap me, I would be like...
You ain't just slaps, man.
I'd be scared all the time.
Trauma.
Very, very interesting.
I think this conversation revealed a lot.
Yeah.
There's like fundamental lack of logic here.
How?
But yeah, I mean, very interesting.
Anyone else have anything that they want to add to that?
I mean, as far as women in Halloween and objectifying themselves?
Let me ask y'all one more question then.
I had a comment.
Oh, go ahead.
What was your comment?
Why does everyone say that Halloween costumes are so provocative and hoey, but when you go to the beach, you wear a bikini.
A bikini show is more than a Halloween costume, and nobody says shit about that.
And we live in Miami.
Well, I think it's because Halloween is typically in the fall.
A lot of the United States isn't necessarily as warm.
I know.
I'm from Minnesota.
Okay.
So, I mean, I would say women are going above and beyond to show skin and dress a certain way, even in the face of hypothermia.
So, I mean, going ahead and dressing up provocatively in, you know, zero degree weather versus being on a beach.
And there's, you know, there's more classy swimsuits that women can wear.
So, I mean, I think it's under which the context that women will go ahead and objectify themselves.
That's the issue here.
Especially those cop outfits.
So, if a girl come around and you taking her to the beach on a date and she came around with a sailor poof poof ass bikini, you gonna fuck that?
Yeah.
That sounds like...
The sailor poof poof ass bikini.
The one with the stripes and the bikini.
Yeah, it comes up.
Stop playing with me.
Are you...
Stop playing with me.
I mean, I don't know why I'm asking this question.
Are you aware that men put women in one of two categories when they meet them?
It's either I'm gonna take this girl seriously or I'm gonna have this girl sex only?
Okay, fine.
You're going to take a girl seriously with a poof poof polka dotted bikini.
Serious for a relationship?
Mm-hmm.
Well, I'll say this.
If she dresses more conservatively, that certainly wouldn't disqualify her.
I don't believe you, man.
Who hurt you?
You're looking in my eyes too seriously.
I don't believe you.
No, because I'm just astonished at your stupidity, to be honest with you.
It's not stupidity.
It's the truth.
Men be saying things that they don't mean.
You're saying all these things in you, confusing us and tricking us.
Why do men say things that they don't mean, then?
Let's go ahead and play with this.
Why do men say things that they don't mean?
To get what they want.
Exactly.
Okay, which is what?
Sex.
Okay, would it be fair to say, what do they lie about when they want the sex then?
Okay, so women lie...
Hold on, hold on.
What do they lie about to get the sex?
They lie about liking the woman more.
Oh, okay.
They lie about liking the girl more.
Okay, why do they lie about liking the girl more?
So they can have sex with them.
Yeah, but how do they lie?
You said by saying that they like them, but like, what's the reason for that?
Because then the women will give it up faster.
Let me help you.
It's something they want to hear.
Yeah.
Earlier in the show, we asked you guys, what would you prefer, family and children or a career?
Most of you pretty much said a family and children, right?
Yes.
What does it take to create a family?
A man.
Oh.
So a man is required for you to get your end fulfillment, correct?
Yeah.
So wouldn't it be fair to say the guy's going to sell a dream and say, oh, I take you seriously and you might get this family and children with me to get sex, right?
That's what they would do?
I think it's like equal to women dressing up.
Oh my god.
Answer the question.
I'm sorry, it was a question.
Yeah, see, that's the problem.
I'm drinking a little bit.
Stupid!
That's not an excuse.
Are you going on tonight?
Huh?
No, I'm not.
Probably.
You need help.
Okay.
Why?
You ain't drank that much, man.
I'm 5'1 and I'm 100 pounds.
I mean, she's 30, man, so, you know, the older they get.
Wait, 30?
Yeah.
In any case.
I mean, you said that the men lie.
I'm saying they lie because women can't handle the truth.
If we told you straight up, hey, listen, man, I think you're a whore.
I just want to have sex with you.
I'm not going to take you seriously.
Would you have sex with a guy?
No.
Oh.
But that's why women dress up, too, because men only pay attention to the girls that dress up.
That's not what we're talking about, though.
She was making an argument that men lie, and I was telling them why men lie.
I didn't answer that question, though.
Okay.
What?
I didn't answer that question.
You nodded your head when she gave the reason, though.
No, I just looked at her.
I didn't nod nothing.
My language says 80% of everything.
Yeah.
I mean, you nodded your head.
Okay, so, no.
All right, what do you have to say, then?
I feel like men try to dictate relationship and females dictate sex with their pussy, but at the end of the day, men are going to always lie and tell you what they want to tell you for you to believe it.
Who lies more, men or women?
I think women lies more because women would lie to get the family, so I don't do that.
Do you use the pole normally when you dance?
Why is that a question in this situation?
Did you fall on your head?
Never.
I knew that was coming.
I knew that was coming.
I knew that was the problem.
Obviously, she uses it.
I'm just curious.
Anyway, yeah.
Okay, we got some chats.
This is crazy, but yeah.
Cool.
Wild.
This was a lot, though.
Yeah, I mean...
This questioning was perfect.
This is very interesting.
Very, very interesting.
Blackest Panther goes, let's say you are with the man of your dreams and you both wanted children, but you find out you are...
You are barren.
Would you allow your man to impregnate another woman, refuse to let him have kids with another woman, or force him to adopt if he wants kids?
Okay, we'll make it simple.
If you realize you couldn't have children, would you let your guy impregnate another woman?
Give us a green or a red?
Green if yes, or a red if no.
No.
Interesting.
All of you say no.
So no kids at all?
Adopt me.
That ain't your kid, though.
Yeah, but he wants his kid, though.
So he wants like a surrogate.
Please throw the thumbs up one more time.
Wait.
There's no relationship.
It depends.
A surrogate.
Did you say surrogate?
No, I won't allow him to have a...
Okay, let me say it one more time.
You're with him, man.
You can't have children.
You guys find out that you can't have children.
He wants to impregnate another woman to have children.
Because he wants his own seat, obviously.
He doesn't want to take on someone else's DNA. But the correct way, not fucking somebody else.
So, like...
But how does he want to get her impregnated?
Does he want to fuck her?
No, no, no.
Would you be okay with that?
Thumbs up and...
Okay, if it's a yes, if you're okay with it...
Okay, most of you say...
Okay, all of you said no, except for one that gives the green.
Interesting.
Okay.
Why wouldn't you?
Let that man go.
You can't have his baby.
Let him go.
Wow.
That's the best thing you said all night.
Wow, really?
I'm messing with you.
IRS. What about the opposite way?
When a girl's with a man and he can't have a kid.
Would you let her have a baby with another man?
Would I? Would you let her have a baby with another man?
I literally dated a guy before whom he can't have kids.
So I've been in that position where he can't have kids but it didn't really affect me because I already had a kid and I don't want another one.
Let's say if it wasn't me and another girl, how, like, how does that work?
What if another girl, like, I mean, we're not together, so what about his next girl?
She wants to have kids.
I don't know his story now because I don't keep up with him, but I'm just saying, like, I was actually thinking about...
That was the guy she gave up on.
Yeah.
Remember?
She gave up.
That was the guy she gave up on.
No, that's not him.
That's not him.
Oh, another guy, okay.
She gave up on two niggas, okay.
- What are you gonna say? - I'm asking, so what if it's vice versa? - It would be unacceptable because the main commodity that a woman brings to the table is her sexual fidelity.
That is your main...
I mean, whether you guys want to accept it or not, it's the main thing you bring to the table.
It's the main reason why a man would want to give you a relationship is your sexual fidelity, not fucking other people.
Why does he deserve her, then, if he can't give her a kid?
Because he provides in different ways.
Because men provide it, yeah.
Can I ask you, what is your religion?
Who brings more to the table in a relationship, men or women in general?
I mean, in a society where men are providers of men, but now...
Oh, okay.
There you go.
There's your answer.
There you have it.
Typically, men bring resources, leadership, competence, accomplishments.
Women bring sex a lot of times.
That's the main reason men deal with women.
Man, we produce children, though.
That's my point.
That's my point.
Wait, do you believe that men should have more wives?
Well, obviously.
Look at it.
Okay, we're gonna move on.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah, he does.
I think you really did get dropped on your head.
Something, bro.
Yo.
Okay, so IRS. Official IRS rating starting from the stuttering monk Cleo Patra.
Haitian Scrip, you shake your cheeks, but you can make griot?
And you make griot.
Gyro.
Oh, okay, so he's giving ratings.
Okay, okay.
So this is IRS here.
He's giving Cleo Patra five.
Haitian Scripa, five.
You shake your cheeks, but you can make griot.
Okay.
Savannah, five.
Alondra, six.
Bitcoin Fairy, four.
More like a fullback, Hut Hut.
Brooklyn Laura, seven.
Paulina, six.
Fallon, five.
Ghetto Garfield, four.
Then you're probably a fucking mom, bro.
When you're on here, I'm watching this show.
He gave you a six.
He gave you a six.
He said you're above average.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah, he gave you a six, man.
That's not that bad.
Myron's in her thoughts.
Damn, I'm handsome.
Damn, fresh, ugly.
Damn, Moe is fat.
Chris is a bum.
All right, fair enough.
What's the next one?
Long live gaming.
What's up ninjas?
Appreciate that.
Trick or treat.
Trick or Savannah.
Give fresh your booty to eat or a hero will piss in your garden.
Honestly, I get it.
Call getting ran through and being degenerates of society taking their power back.
The only thing you're taking back that is a plethora of mental trauma and baggage that no worthy man wants to deal with.
You have anything you want to say back to that Bitcoin fairy?
Ya mom.
Let's say you go through your man's phone and he's cheating.
You mad?
Rhetorical.
Let's say you go through it and find nothing.
Do you give him an extra praise for being monogamous?
Hell no.
Yes, I will give him extra praise.
Stop the cow!
No, I wouldn't because he'll know he went through his shit.
Let's go, CEO Network Big Bossing.
Let's go, Cody!
By the way, Cody went to Komodo the other day after the event.
He pulled two baddies, man, so shut up Cody.
Okay.
All right.
Goku the goat.
Fresh looks like he was born out the booty hole.
The handyman goes, Fallon said she's not a feminist.
Goes straight to feminist arguments.
Next, I bet her Christian Olympics talking points.
Her man definitely needs Houdini to help him disappear from that trap.
Do you have anything you want to say back to him?
Bless your heart, baby.
Okay.
Mario Lord goes, love you all.
The nuns are my favorite.
Icy, come get this BBC Chicago style.
What the fuck?
Whoa.
Okay.
B. Woods goes, them black jokes finally caught up to Zerka.
Eloah, I love the show, guys.
WFNF. Listen, man, that's...
He's fine, man.
Yeah, he'll be fine.
Jerome goes, I'm a bartender and I bet everything I own that these 304s make trash-ass drinks.
Okay.
Who here is a bartender again?
You and you?
Okay.
I used to work at the Bowery Hotel, so I doubt that.
Okay.
Wait, how's that a flex?
It's probably good drinks.
I made drinks for celebrities.
They would make me make it ten times over if it was bad.
In Brooklyn?
No, not in Brooklyn.
In Bowery in Manhattan.
So then I made you then.
Wait, what Chris?
So they made her make the drink over again if...
No, if it was bad.
That's why I'm good at it.
That's why I'm great.
She said if.
If it was bad.
Hypothetical.
Okay.
They show up, titties out, no deodorant, with some weak-ass game, and these simps with no hope keep buying.
Okay, Jerome.
Anything else?
I think I'm mad.
I'm spiking that drink.
Oh, last one on the right?
Okay.
Ladies.
And Rock goes, ladies, you live life on easy mode yet, you still manage to fuck it up.
As much as Lemonade Solutions, here's one.
Don't be a hoe.
Dress modestly.
Shut the fuck up.
You'll get a good man.
God damn.
Where in the fuck is your bitch?
All right, last one.
Fantastic.
All right.
Chris trying to end the show, guys.
So, who's going to a club, by the way, after this?
Just out of curiosity.
Don't fucking lie.
I know some of y'all are.
These two right here are lying.
I'm not fucking lying.
Why are you playing?
We have to drive back to Tampa so early.
Chris.
She's the one out.
Chris.
She's so cute.
I mean, I don't know what they're doing, man, but, you know, these girls, man.
Wait yourself.
Okay.
Hey.
Last thoughts on the show.
Hit it.
Love it.
Hold the show for you.
It was great.
I feel like the conversation was never stopping.
I would definitely come again.
It was very engaging.
Thank you for coming.
And you said it was a tiger, cheetah, or Garfield?
A cat.
Yeah.
And for you?
I enjoyed hearing everybody's perspectives, but you guys' chat is fucking lame.
Oh, shit.
Really?
Yeah, you guys have really mean people in your live chat.
How dare you?
It's over 9,000!
Do you think that the world is nice and rosy and beautiful?
No, I don't.
I know that it's not, but at the same time, you would think that a show like this is supposed to be helping men, and it just seems like men are here to trash women, so...
How are they being trashy?
They were calling people in the chat whores.
They were commenting on how people look.
There are some comments and things that I definitely don't agree with.
I mean, someone called me a feminist and then called...
And then telling us to die.
Yeah, and saying these horrible things.
They called him fat.
They called me ugly.
Well, yeah, and that's what I'm saying.
It's like...
I've seen people who have platforms where they have communities and audiences where people don't do that.
Who?
It doesn't fucking matter, but I know.
Tell me who.
I'll give you an example.
Who?
Fuck it, right?
I mean, I'm not saying people don't have haters.
That's not what I'm saying, but I'm saying a majority of your chats are men who are being really nasty, and I think that that's sad.
They have opinions, and that's their opinion, but ultimately, what does it affect you?
Because as a person who believes in positivity, wanting to make the world a better place, using a platform like social media...
I don't give a fuck.
But all I'm saying is, it just...
In experiencing it, I'm not saying it needs to change, but all I'm saying is experiencing it is almost like, oh wow, damn, people are really like that.
I don't have friends who are mean.
I don't have people in my communities who are trolling my shit, calling me ugly.
I used to be like that too when I first got on TikTok, like I said, but then I realized...
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter what they say, but I'm saying it's surprising.
Like, wow, people sit at home on the computer trolling in a chat.
Earlier, we had some guys in the chat actually told you, hey, W girl, W, whatever.
So you're focused on negativity.
I'm not saying I'm focused on the negativity.
I'm just saying the amount was surprising to me.
Honestly, Fallon, the comments about you was actually a lot of nice comments.
They actually viewed you as a wifey out of all of us.
They called all of us whores.
But that's what I'm saying.
That still hurts my feelings.
That still hurts my feelings.
But you had the best comments out of all of us.
They called you a stripper hoe.
But still, like, I would never...
I'll be honest, this is why women shouldn't be in leadership roles or be in any type of stressful situations.
Well, I'm sorry, but I have a compassionate heart and I'm thinking I'm not being.
I know, but it's live.
We've heard you before the show and told you that they're going to talk shit to the internet.
I told you.
And here's the thing.
There's the difference between men and women, right?
So women tell each other comforting lies versus men give each other very painful, you know, uncomfortable truths and we fuck each other up and shit like that.
And that's what makes men stronger a lot of times.
But women, y'all are kind of soft, man.
And I mean, if you can't take this, God damn.
No, I can take it.
I'm just making a comment.
I said, don't take this shit personally.
Listen, I'm not taking it personally.
You asked me what my opinion was and I was just like, wow, I've never seen that.
Like, that's crazy.
Interesting.
That's how you actually know you have a great community is when they troll you.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because when they're giving you a bunch of bullshit, you know, false nothings, like, we love you, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, they really rock with you when they troll.
Yeah.
That's how men...
I saw it.
I was reading that shit.
You know, I got peripheral vision.
Yeah.
How can they even see that?
It's so cat.
Yeah, I mean, that's how men communicate is we make fun of each other and talk shit.
That's one of the fundamental differences between men and women.
Oh, okay.
Good stuff.
What about you?
It's because she wanted to hear dog shit advice, bro.
Yeah.
Women lie to each other and give each other terrible advice.
That's not true.
You don't think so?
That's not true.
We're pretty aggressive on each other.
I'm not even going to lie to her.
We get into it.
Yeah, we're Latina.
She told me my outfit not to wear my outfit before I came here.
I said, I'm going to wear my outfit and you're going to love it.
Then I get here and she's like, okay, it's not too bad.
I love it.
I'm like, you need to have better faith than me.
The picture she sent me was horrible, bro.
Shut up, bitch!
What about you?
You guys don't give each other real critical advice, is my point.
Women don't tell each other, like, hey, you're really annoying, or hey, you're really loud.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You might do that with maybe one or two girls in your friend group, but in general, women don't give each other real advice.
That's true.
That's us.
We'd be fine.
You guys be lying to each other.
You don't like that?
Yeah.
I mean, I spoke my fucking mind here.
You did.
Generally.
And you took that.
You're weak.
I know.
What about you?
Last thoughts?
Disagreements or anything like that?
This is definitely an interesting experience.
I mean, I definitely didn't agree with what everyone said, but I'm sure not everyone agreed.
What did you not agree with in particular?
Everything.
Not everything, but it's like, I can't even think about it right now.
You just put me on the spot.
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to make a stance, like...
Yeah, but I mean, I just remember, like, it's been over time, like, it's been, what, two hours?
Like, I don't really remember the last thing, but I'm sure people didn't...
Is it fair to say that you don't necessarily, maybe you don't agree, but you might have not liked the way things were said or made you feel a certain way?
Not really, honestly.
I don't think I took anything personal.
I don't think I took anything personal and made me feel any type of way.
So what do you disagree with, then?
Well, for example, when you said that, the Halloween thing, women dressing...
Yeah, the thing about...
I was like, what?
In particular.
The fact that women can't dress like...
Dressing like a slut one day a year is the same thing as your man kissing a guy one time a year.
Yeah, I gave a functional equivalent, yeah.
Well, I personally didn't think it was like a functional equivalent.
Are you a man?
No.
Okay.
So that's why I had to give you a female one of you being kind of like turned off by finding out that your guy kissed a dude on one Halloween.
It's one day a year.
Not that big of a deal.
Your guy, right?
Your potential future husband that might want to take you seriously, right?
He might have an issue with you dressing provocatively on Halloween.
Exactly, he might.
But not everyone's going to have an issue dressing provocatively on Halloween.
Okay, let me be very clear and concise about this.
The men that women tend to find the most attractive tend to have dominant traits.
They tend to be more Machiavellian.
They tend to be leaders.
They tend to be aggressive.
They tend to be assertive.
They tend to have an A-type personality.
Do you think a man who has an A-type personality is gonna like his girl, be it parading herself all over the internet with no clothes on?
The answer is no.
A profound no.
Because men and women are very different in what we offer as a commodity to the opposite gender.
And the funny part is he might not sell you anything.
He might just leave you.
Yeah.
Or cheat on you.
The very alpha men that women want, because that's what women all want typically, is a guy who's dominant, assertive, etc.
So it's okay for a man to cheat, but not for the women.
It's not okay for a woman to dress provocatively, but it's okay for a man to cheat.
Well, let me ask you a question.
What's harder to do?
For you to put on a skimpy outfit, or for a man to make a lot of money and be attractive to a majority of women?
And be able to even cheat?
What's harder Cheating what's more difficult to do?
Dressing provocatively as a woman or Building yourself up as a man to where you're even attractive enough for women to even want to fuck you in the first place and then on top of that having other women What's harder?
See, because this is the problem.
You guys tend to go ahead and sit there and be like, well, it's not okay that you cheat or you have sex with a bunch of women.
I have to work my ass off to be able to do this.
You don't have to work your ass off to dress provocatively and be a fucking slut.
Just show up.
Well, regardless, you gotta work.
I mean, you're the man.
I mean, that's not our fault that we were born as women.
Hold on, hold on.
But what I'm saying is that fantastic.
So since we have to work, we're not on the same level.
But still, you can't so connect with somebody if they're getting involved with multiple people, because that connection is going to dissipate.
Like, it's not going to last.
Are you a mess?
No, no, no, no, correction.
No, I'm a woman.
No, no, no, no, correction.
You can't do that with multiple men, but I can do it with multiple women easily.
Yeah, but then I'm not going to feel so connected to my partner because he's with multiple women.
I'm not going to feel connected to him.
I would argue you feel even more connected because you're being picked over the other women.
I disagree.
No, I disagree.
You disagree?
I disagree.
Okay, look, look, look.
What you disagree with and reality are two different things.
If you walk into a nightclub, and I like using a nightclub because it's the best example of carnal attraction, where are all the women concentrated?
Obviously the sections.
How many niggas are in there versus how many women are in there?
Obviously, there's less men in the section.
So, wouldn't it be fair to say that women are attracted to status?
I mean...
I just don't for the entertainment for a little bit, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to get involved with them.
It's like, bye, and then they ask for my number, it's like, bye.
No, no, that's cool.
Or I give them the wrong number.
Yeah, you're saying that.
But what I'm trying to explain here is that women are attracted to status and men that have multiple women.
That's what they're attracted to.
Why is it that every powerful man at the beginning of time has always had multiple women, and they were okay with it?
Well, personally, I wouldn't be attracted to a man that has multiple women.
Attraction isn't a choice.
Well, personally to me, I wouldn't get involved with somebody that has 10 bitches.
Hold on.
You ever been cheated on before?
No.
How do you know?
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I have.
I don't know.
100%.
Okay, what about you?
They want to say one thing, but they behave another, man.
They'll sit there, I don't want a rapper or a guy that's...
I don't want a player, but y'all fuck them.
You know what's funny?
Go to the show and say one thing, and then I go outside, and I see them, I'm like...
Okay, but who lost then, in that case, if they want to take them seriously?
The guy still got the sack, still hit though, right?
Ray J said it.
I hit it first.
So who wins?
I don't know, man.
I mean, I'm pretty sure the woman would still finesse something.
I would hope she finesses something.
You know, like...
That's why you're single.
I've been in a relationship for six years.
So, again, what do you disagree with?
Um...
No, I was asking her.
You had plenty of time to think.
I disagreed with that.
Men being able to have multiple women?
The Halloween thing.
Yeah, like the Halloween thing.
The Halloween kiss or the multiple women thing?
No, like, the fact that, like, why, like, women, like, it's not okay for women to dress provocatively on Halloween.
Like, maybe they just, like, want to, like, look good.
It's nice to get compliments also.
Like, when a girl comes up to you and is like, oh, you look so good.
Like, you're saying that sometimes women just do things to get attention from men, but that's just not always it.
Okay, I never explicitly said it's not good.
I just said it'll hinder your ability to find a man.
Okay.
That's up to you, huh?
El Skonka.
What?
El what?
Call her Skonka.
A skonk?
What?
What the fuck?
What's a skonka?
It's like a slut, but like dwarfs.
Oh, okay.
I am not aware.
So you just disagree with the whole...
I guess that it's not the same?
I mean, sure.
You're just a disagreeing and disagree.
I'm trying to get your answer.
What about you?
Final thoughts?
I enjoyed the panel.
I like all the ladies and it was a nice conversation.
But I don't agree that women like men that cheat more.
Personally, I've been women that cheated on me and I couldn't get aroused anymore.
I couldn't at all get aroused.
I never said women like men that cheat more.
I said women like men that make them compete.
That doesn't overtly mean he has to cheat.
And the men that you actually like do have options.
And you deep down might know that.
You guys aren't listening, bro.
It's attractive anyway.
I love it.
I'll say something and then you guys will assume something from that.
You'll come to a conclusion based on what I said on your own.
But all I'm simply saying is that women tend to like men that they have to compete for.
But you assume that's cheating.
And if he can get you, he can get other women.
Yeah, Drew.
If he can get me, he can get other money.
Yeah, but I mean, I want a guy that practices self-control and only wants me.
But anyways, yeah, it was a nice panel.
It was cute.
Everybody was nice.
Let me ask you a question.
What do you bring to the table for a man to suppress his sexuality that worked his ass off to be attractive?
Let me answer before.
Yeah.
Because that's a lot, by the way, to ask a man to suppress his sexuality just for you.
So what do you bring to the table for that?
Well, I'm going to be really sexually active with him.
I will be...
Another girl can give him that.
Another girl can give him that.
I'm very...
I'm intellectual.
I can hold the conversation.
No, you can't.
You failed tonight.
No, you can't.
Well, I'm still learning.
This is my second podcast.
I get a little nervous on screen.
Well, you're 30, though.
This is my second podcast.
Can't you speak?
I mean, that doesn't have to do with...
What does that have to do with just having a conversation?
That's all we're doing.
Yeah, because I'm on camera, so I'm camera shy.
First you lit, now you're shy.
What's next?
Oh, you said quite a bit.
I don't know if you're camera shy.
I am camera shy.
Get the cheese.
Because I lost my words a little bit in the middle.
You were shy when you were saying men were being shouted a little bit earlier.
I mean, I'm not shy.
I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm still learning to formulate my thoughts on the table.
Because intellectual is highly debatable.
What else?
To you.
Yeah, but I'm also, I'm comforting.
I'll massage him every night.
Another woman can do that easily.
Well, then he don't like me.
If I do all of that and he doesn't want me, I'm finding another man.
No, what I'm saying is that you expect a man, right, to work his ass off, be attractive, be able to attract you, right, because you have high standards, right?
I mean, we did the show last time.
I said I wanted a guy who made 70k at least a year.
That's more than average.
And more like...
And a 5'8".
I'm 5'1".
Okay.
But you want an above average man.
Is that above average?
Yes.
Significantly.
I mean, then I guess.
But I don't think it's too much to ask for.
Yes, you want an above average guy, but you bring average benefits.
How is that average?
Everything you just mentioned, another girl can provide.
Yeah.
What else would you want from a woman?
What do you think a woman would have to do to make a man misogynist?
Nothing?
No, no, no.
What?
I mean, I'm misogynist.
Sorry.
What did that even come up?
I don't know.
Misogony.
He's asleep, man.
Something.
No, I don't even know.
No, make a man want to be with one woman.
I'm sorry.
I messed up.
What I'm saying is that you have your standards.
You want him to make 70K. You have standards.
You have boundaries, right?
On what you want in a man.
But you want him to suppress his boundaries for you.
But you don't bring anything out of the side of the table that a regular girl can bring.
I mean, if I need to have a guy that cheats it, I'm just gonna go for money.
That's fine.
That doesn't help your case at all, that argument.
Right.
I mean, if I can't get emotional, like, I mean, I can't get the right things that I want from a man, I'm not gonna...
I'm just gonna get whatever they can provide for you.
What I'm simply saying is this.
You want a man to suppress his standards, right, for you.
Are you listening?
Yes, sir.
You want a man to suppress his standards for you, but you're not gonna suppress your standards for a man.
Think about that.
Is that a fair trade for him?
He's above average, but you're bringing average qualities back in return.
I don't think my standards are that high.
There's many men out there with those qualifications, and you're still single.
Why is that?
Because I haven't found anybody I like.
A whole bunch of guys try to date me, but I don't like anybody.
Exactly.
I mean, they did, and they smashed, and you left.
You're confused.
It's just crazy to me.
Like, women can have their standards of shit, but if a dude says, yeah, well, I want multiple girls.
Whoa!
I want to be monogamous!
Y'all ain't changing your standards, so why the fuck should I change mine?
I mean, to be honest, I'd rather be alone than be with a cheater.
I would be okay with that.
No, but he's telling you what it is.
Yeah, I'm telling you what men want.
I mean, she has a cat, so...
I'm okay with being alone.
I know women want money.
I'm not gonna sit here and cry and be like, damn, man, you know what, bro?
Fuck that.
I'd rather be broke and just stay alone.
Fuck it.
I'm not gonna rise up to the level and understand what men want.
Sorry, what women want.
I'm just gonna be a brokie.
I'll fulfill my spiritual purpose and try to go to the next level after this life.
By your own admission, women get their fulfillment from family and children with a man, correct?
In this life, in this world, yeah.
But if I can't have what I want, we're gonna die and we're gonna graduate to a better place.
Where are you going when you die?
Hopefully to a higher vibration if I do what I have to do in this life.
Nigga, what the fuck?
Yo, imagine...
Yo, you know what, man?
We ain't getting money in this life, bro.
Fuck you.
We ain't getting no bitches.
You know what, man?
The next life, bro.
We're just gonna have different vibrations.
What if money and bitches don't matter in the next life?
Different vibrations.
So you're telling me you're gonna buy me for more cheese?
Bro, this nigga with the cheese, though.
Is it because I'm a mouse?
I'm just trolling you.
I'm sorry.
You're funny, though.
I'll give you that.
What about you?
Overall thoughts on the show?
It was a good show.
Good panel.
Professional.
I like it.
Wait, professional?
Yes, professional.
I'm not gonna lie.
I thought it would have been just like some mics and some stuff.
I didn't know you guys had like a whole setup like this.
What did you think it was gonna be?
I thought it was just gonna be just mics and like maybe like one or two cameras, but you guys have like a nice live stream setup.
Wait, what podcast you been on with?
Ratchet-ass shit.
Shit.
Have you been on another one?
Shit.
No comment.
Oh, you have.
I get what you're saying.
Them niggas probably copied us.
Yo, fuck them though.
I've been on some mock podcasts before, but some real podcasts.
Wait, are they mock or real then?
I've been on a mock podcast and a real podcast.
Okay.
Yeah, just for practice.
I'm not gonna lie, your eyes are throwing me off the whole show.
Good.
That's pretty cool.
Thank you.
How'd it change?
The hell?
Fresh?
No, it's cool.
That was gay, man.
Alright, uh...
Okay, so you thought it was gonna be worse, okay?
Not worse, but I didn't anticipate that it would be as professional as it is.
Okay, you mean studio-wise or the way the discussion was?
Studio-wise, discussion-wise, from when we first walked in to up until now.
Alright, cool.
Congratulations, it's all downhill from here.
Because we're the number one in this shit, pretty much.
What about you?
So this is my second time here.
I had fun, you know, but agreed to disagree.
So we learned.
What'd you learn?
Um, I guess I learned that men want to be with multiple bitches, but I don't know if that resonates with me.
I don't know if that resonates with me, but I mean, that's what you're saying.
You have to come on a podcast and learn how dudes want multiple women?
I mean, every relationship that I've been on, like, we wouldn't do that.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't know.
So he never cheated?
I mean, not from my understanding.
You would never know.
Why'd you leave then?
I mean, if I ever cheated, he would never know either.
But that's the whole point, though.
Whatever.
The world may never know.
I don't know.
Hold on.
You think you can satisfy one man by yourself?
Tampoco.
Tampoco.
I mean, obviously, I'm gonna get bored.
Like, I'm personally gonna get bored of him, too.
Don't be selfish.
I mean, for the man.
Well, whatever, bro.
I get it.
I get it.
I mean...
What about you?
You didn't say much.
I feel like you guys didn't give me an opportunity to really say much.
I normally have a lot to fucking say, but...
Go ahead, say what you want to say!
Gotcha.
I was making sure that they get to speak and stuff.
Go ahead.
Honestly like I feel like what I said is like what I mean but I think like the podcast was just like really like eye-opening like I got to see more of perspective like from like guys because like you guys like the way you ask questions and then like conversate with us I feel like we get to see like a little bit of how like guys think and feel okay and like the relationship sense and that's just like something I guess I normally wouldn't pay attention to or like just as girls it's like not something that's like normal.
Why would you care anyway?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Do you think women put any effort into actually learning what men want in general?
I think when you really care about the person, their personality-wise, yes, you do, because you want to learn stuff about their personality.
Like, oh, your boyfriend likes this, so you go out of your way to do that for him, that kind of stuff.
Yeah, but do women make them learn how to be more attractive in general to a majority of men?
Do you think they actually do the work to do that?
I'm confused on what you're trying to ask.
Exactly.
So you said...
Well, you said earlier that if you like the guy, you're going to work to find out what he's attracted to or whatever.
What if I told you more men are very similar than you think?
And we all pretty much think the same regardless of socioeconomic class.
Actually, I'll take it a step further.
The only difference between me and a guy that maybe might make a little bit less money or less status or whatever is that I have the ability to be honest with women and tell them what the fuck it really is.
Okay.
Whereas he might not be able to say that because the girl will leave him.
But in general, that doesn't dispute that we all pretty much think alike.
Yeah, but not every woman is going to submit to that.
Submit to what?
There's many more.
Okay, exactly.
For us too, though, we have options.
You guys make it seem like if we don't have options, though.
They're not real options.
They're placebo.
They're not real.
I'll agree to disagree, then.
Hold on, hold on.
You got a lot of guys who are in DMs, right?
I mean, we all do.
Okay, but how many of them do you actually like or respond to?
I barely respond to anybody.
Exactly.
It's not real options.
Yeah, but we have options.
We do.
We just gotta be picky.
I'm not just gonna be with anybody.
They're not real options then.
By definition of what you're saying, they're not real options.
They're available, but that doesn't mean you want them.
It's not a real option.
So, and I think that's where girls make the mistake because they think, oh, I have a bunch of options.
Not really.
You have a bunch of options for sex.
But how many of those guys are guys that you actually are attracted to, you want to submit to, you want to be with long-term, and you find arousing and attractive at the same time?
Family.
The answer is very little.
Few, little to none of them.
Yeah, but you got to create that over time with somebody.
It's not something that you just decide, like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm going to pursue this guy and be serious.
That's not how it works, though, for us females.
Like, we're in tune with our feelings.
We got to build that shit.
Like...
Not really.
The man's got to build himself and then you're attracted to him.
Yeah.
Not the other way around.
Wait a minute.
What?
Women are going to sit there and build with a guy?
I would argue they don't, especially at social media age.
We've got to create a type of feeling, though.
It's not like we're just going to like...
When you meet somebody for the first time, you know right there and then.
And secondly, let's say it's digital.
You have a likeness with somebody, how they look, how their lifestyle is.
You can see, you know what?
I want to take this further to see what happens.
So you don't have to take too much time to figure out if I want them or not.
So, wait, because you had a lot to say.
What else did you want to say?
Honestly...
You don't see the male perspective, you said.
Or you got to see the male perspective.
Yeah, I got to see...
And then I asked you, do you think women do the work to actually know what men find attractive?
I feel like it depends on each girl, and it also depends on what they're offering back to you.
Like, I'm not going to put the effort in to, like, learn about what a guy, like, wants.
Wow.
And, like, his, like, needs if he's not going to do the same thing back to me.
If that makes sense.
But wouldn't it...
Okay, interesting that you say that.
So, like, why do I have to, like, learn, like, his, like, weird quirks?
Like, he likes things this way and, like, wants this...
Because that's a question for you.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is a guy that you're with, right?
And you're dealing with?
Oh, no, I'm not with a guy right now.
No, no, no.
I'm saying, like, in this hypothetical, this is a man that you're dealing with, right?
Sure.
You said if you like him?
What if I told you he already did the work to be attractive to get you in the first place?
Yep.
Oh, I didn't think about that, did you?
She's fit.
She pays money.
Like, yo!
Pays your rent.
Like, girls live on easy mode so much that you guys don't even see that men have to work really hard to even get your attention.
Yep.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Like, for him to even be with you, he had to do a bunch of things right.
He had to approach you.
He had to be attractive to it.
He had to be attractive.
He had to approach you the right way.
He had to turn you on.
He had to get you on a date.
That was a bad thing.
No, but you're missing the point.
I asked you a simple question.
I said, yo, do you think women do the work to actually be attractive?
And you said, well, yeah, if they like the guy.
But the guy's got to do it vice versa.
And I'm arguing, well, he already did it because he got you in the first place.
Okay, but keep the work going.
Keep the work going?
Never stop grinding.
What the fuck are you doing?
Just sitting there like this?
Bro, she don't give a fuck, man.
Honestly, I'm fucking tired, dude.
I thought you said you had a lot to say.
Yeah.
You're tired?
She said she had a lot to say.
I don't have anything to say anymore.
Exactly.
What the fuck?
This is your opportunity.
Go ahead.
What do you got to say?
Nah, I don't need to.
You're tired or you're triggered?
I'm not triggered.
I'm honestly just, like, fucking tired.
We're running on three hours of sleep.
Literally, like, I feel like some of these conversations have just went in, like, fucking circles, like, over and over and over again.
Like, I feel like we're literally discussing, like, the same shit, but in a different pattern.
And it's honestly just, like, making my brain hurt at this point.
And I, like, feel like I'm getting stupider.
So that's, like, why I don't want to say anything else.
Because I just, like, I'm like, oh, this hurts my brain.
Like, I'm sick of talking about my wants and needs as a woman.
I just, like, want to be a girl.
And, like, go home and go to bed.
Just leave, man.
Just leave.
Just leave, bro.
Like, if you can't critically think and you're having an issue and I'm tired and you're gonna, like, fucking just come in here and sulk, like, just get the fuck out of here, dude.
Just leave.
Just leave, dude.
Just go home.
Since you guys want to sleep so bad, just leave.
Just leave, man.
What the fuck, man?
Like, it's...
I'm tired.
Take care of the kids today.
You know, what the fuck?
Just leave.
Oh, man.
Just leave.
Thank you for the opportunity What happened again?
Okay.
Just leave.
It's fine.
Please quietly leave.
You know what's crazy?
Incredible.
I noticed about both of them.
What?
They had no ass.
Just say it, bro.
That shit sucks.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
What about you?
Alright, what's up?
What was your final thoughts?
I had a blast.
I know I had a bunch of telling me to get on the mic.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Don't get mad at me.
You should.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
But I had a blast noticing how much men hates us.
I did not know men hate women that much, you know?
Yeah, your grammar's incredible.
Your grammar's incredible, by the way.
Oh yeah, it's okay.
I'm sorry that I speak so many different languages.
My English is not that great.
But I'll give you what I can.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Two new words.
How do men hate women?
By your accord.
How do men hate women?
Oh, you guys hate us.
Oh my goodness.
Why you guys hate us so bad?
How do they...
Everything we say is wrong.
We can't be feminists.
We can't be whores.
We can't be nuns.
We can't be nothing.
All I can be is just be a statue.
Type a checklist in the chat of what your woman needs.
Yeah, just like how you said, what do a woman bring to the table?
Honestly, when I think about my future in my life, I never think of another person in my future.
I think about myself and what I want for myself.
If another person want to add themselves to my dream and what I want, then that's up to them.
You're a narcissist.
Oh yes, I will say that then.
If that's what you think, then yeah.
I mean, that is like textbook narcissism.
Why is that a narcissist?
If I see myself in my future and I'm not...
That's being selfish when you're thinking of your future and you're adding someone else in it and you didn't even agree to it.
Yes, it is.
It's selfish.
It's very much so selfish.
I think it's the opposite, yeah.
It's selfish.
Selfless.
I'll just be honest here.
You're pretty dumb and you're a narcissist.
That's not dumb.
I'm sorry.
No, it's not.
Yes.
I just got to give it to you straight.
No, it's not.
Because you're thinking about your future and it's called your future.
What do you want for yourself?
Let me go ahead and rationalize why you came to that conclusion.
Go ahead.
You've exercised an inability to critical think, answer questions concisely, articulate yourself.
You can't really debate any points.
And everything that we ask you, especially when we preface the question with, in general, what do you think?
You always attribute it back to yourself.
You're a narcissist in your lower IQ. Not really, because in general, it's for everybody.
And I'm answering for myself.
I'm sorry to tell you this.
I cannot think for everyone else.
I'm thinking for Chris.
I'm thinking for myself.
No, it's not critical thinking skills.
It's thinking for myself.
Thank you.
I'm thinking for myself.
I cannot answer for someone else.
Because you can't answer outside of your own perspective.
They hate women, they hate us.
Nothing we say is correct.
Because whatever you're saying, I hear you and I understand your views of what you're saying.
But you're not understanding my view.
How is telling you the truth hating you?
Because at the end of the day, you're not trying to see my point of view.
You're trying to see only yours.
Oh, how about this?
How about I understand your point of view.
I've been listening intently.
I've been actually taking notes the whole time when you've been speaking.
That's why I'm able to come to this conclusion.
Oh, I see that, and I'm like, really, I'm like, yeah, that's professional as fuck.
Oh, so wouldn't that be fair to say that not only am I listening to you, but I'm understanding your point, which is why I'm able to refute it in the first place, then tell you, hey, you lack critical thinking skills.
No, because at the end of the day, that's your opinion.
Everybody have their own opinion like you said earlier.
I think it's pretty much a fact through the course of this podcast that you lack critical thinking skills.
No, because earlier, like you said.
Even by your own admission, just literally 10 seconds ago, saying that I'm speaking for myself and I can't think in general.
I never said those words, but okay.
Did you not just say that literally like 30, 40 seconds ago?
Oh, you're talking about me, what I say for myself.
Oh, yeah, I did say that, yeah.
Okay.
We wish you the best.
You don't have to wish me the best.
I have the best.
Genuinely, I wish you the best.
And here's the thing.
I'm respectfully telling you that you're not intelligent, which is fine.
You don't have to be intelligent.
You're a female.
It's fine.
You can make it far in life.
You clearly have.
But, god damn, bro.
If you were a dude, life would be really hard for you.
Does it make you feel better that you have to bully each and every one of us at this table by telling us we lack critical thinking or we're dumb or we're female?
No, I'm telling you you lack critical thinking skills especially.
No, but you went in on shorty one and shorty two over there before you went in on my ass.
Well, she literally couldn't articulate any of her points.
I challenged her points and then she said the default, I'm tired.
But let's be honest, though.
Some people on the table were actually not even having their own opinion.
They were agreeing with other people just to agree, just to not get, you know, trampled over by you.
You guys all agreed on a bunch of things.
Some people did not have their own mindset.
I don't think you noticed this, but I peeped the people who were genuinely answering their questions.
Fallon had valid points.
Her answers were always her own and always valid.
She had her own answers and her own words.
What were valid points, then?
Everything that she said was basically her own mindset, her own point of view.
She said that at the end of the day, she's not a feminist, but she still believed that as a woman, we should carry ourself in a better way.
And I, myself, I told you as a woman, I don't think that every woman should see themselves in the same way as someone else sees themselves.
Not everybody's gonna be the same.
Everybody's different.
No one is gonna have the same mindset.
Nobody's gonna have the same critical thinking.
I'm sorry that you think that I like critical thinking, but that's you.
That's what you think.
I think anyone with half a brain that watches this podcast throughout the course of the conversation can clearly tell that you lack critical thinking skills and you admitted that you lack critical thinking skills yourself.
No, I never said that.
And I don't want to agree to disagree, like I said.
That's what you're doing right now.
I will never agree to disagree.
I am me and I will always be me.
And what I said is what I said.
What you said is what you said at the end of the day.
With all the respect, you're pretty low IQ. No, you're very dumb.
Just be quiet.
That's fine.
And here's the thing.
No one's ever probably told you this before, but you're pretty stupid.
No offense.
I'm telling you to your face.
You are pretty fucking dumb, but it's okay.
You're a female.
You're a stripper.
You can get your money.
You can monetize your sexuality, which we talked about before.
It's cool, but you definitely lack IQ points.
That's a fact at this point.
You're not even able to comprehend what I'm telling you and give me a real response.
You're denying things you said literally a minute ago.
We're having a conversation about your topic.
This is your topic.
This is what you want to talk about.
You're not talking to us about things that we want to talk about.
So how would you know we're lack of IQ if you don't know what we're talking about?
If you don't know, then just don't talk about it.
How about that?
Or say, you know what?
I don't know.
Or this is what I think.
Oh, you know what?
I didn't know that.
Actually, I'm wrong about that.
I mean, she said she didn't know a few times.
About what?
About questions you asked.
Sometimes we did ask we didn't know.
Such as?
I mean, there was one question that she said that you asked her earlier and she said, I don't know.
And you were like, okay, fair enough.
And you moved on.
Because she, like you said, right now, if you don't know, then you don't know.
Do you remember what that question was?
No, I don't.
It was something regarding women in the 40s or 50s and like whether or not they were being beat.
No, I know what it was.
It was, do you think...
Women got more respect back in the fifties or now?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes.
And she said, I don't know.
And then I asked another thought-provoking question.
Were men more chivalrous back then?
And she answered to the affirmative, yes.
And then I said, okay, by definition, that means more respect.
See, I'm playing on a different level than you fucking ladies.
I'm writing down what y'all are saying.
I'm listening very closely, etc.
So I'm able to catch you in the stupidity of the things that you guys say.
I'm listening very, very fucking close to everything you guys are saying.
And I'm understanding it to come back with arguments.
But why do you keep on nitpicking her?
You already said your point.
It's like, okay, you're being stupid, but you keep pressing on her buddy.
No, no, because she continues to engage.
No, no, no, because you're continuing to engage with me as if I'm wrong about something or that you're on some other high ground.
But let's be honest.
Have I ever disrespected you once when I was saying what I was saying?
You disrespected me throughout the entire event when I was making my point.
It's the truth.
You're dumb.
No, I'm dumb.
That's your opinion.
That's fine.
I'm okay with that.
Most people would agree with that at that point.
That's almost a sound.
I'm not offended, and I'm not hurt, and I'm not but hurt by it.
What I'm saying is that, is there a way that you can communicate without having to degrade somebody?
You made the comment, you made the comment that y'all hate women.
I said, okay, how so?
But, did I say you hate women?
Yeah, you said y'all.
No, I said y'all as in like in general because everybody that was commenting on there, like she was saying before, were very disgusting.
I never said you hated women.
I never said you hated women.
I said I never knew how much men hated women.
That was the word that came out of my mouth.
And then I asked you, how so?
And you're saying that under the context of being on our podcast.
And I said, explain to me how men hate women.
And you couldn't articulate it.
Yeah, if you were smarter, you were sad.
You know what?
Not you, Maren Afresh.
But ultimately...
So you made a blanket statement.
You're not able to substantiate your argument.
Let's agree to disagree.
No, we're not agreeing to disagreeing.
Oh my god.
You know what?
Stay on the fucking pole.
Goddamn, bro.
I'm just saying, bro.
Oh my god, dude.
Like, you're trying to put yourself out as an intellectual, but you're dumb as shit, man.
I'm not throwing myself out as an intellectual.
I'm telling you that when you're in communication...
She's just saying you have to disrespect.
I'm just saying you don't have to disrespect somebody by the way what they're saying to you.
He's telling you the truth, by the way.
My answer?
If you were smart, you would have took that alley-oop.
But to sigge, to sigge, you keep getting more upset.
I'm not upset, I'm just saying my point.
She felt hurt.
And your point doesn't make sense.
I just gave her out, she just kept calling her dumb.
And your point doesn't make sense, man.
You could call us whatever you want to call us, but you don't have to keep nitpicking over and over again.
Your IQ is so low.
Your IQ is low.
That's fine.
That's your perspective.
He's not calling all of the girls.
Like, yeah, I'm just telling you you're dumb.
Like, you're really dumb.
I'm just like, that's what it is.
Like, I'm just keeping a thousand with you.
Like, you are dumb.
Jonathan, I bet you're having a field day watching this right now.
Who?
Oh, the person who told me that I was not ready for this podcast.
He was right.
You had time to prepare and watch a pod or two.
You still came up here retarded as fuck, man.
Yo!
Did you just say that we couldn't use the word retarded?
Wow.
Yes, they did.
I said limit the words.
Yes, they did.
I'm not going to lie.
Just talking about nitpicking.
Stop talking about rules I didn't even mention.
Alright, we can move on, man.
This part just got...
This part bubbling.
Next one.
Look at what you're doing.
Hurt my brain cells, man.
Goddamn.
Bro.
Goddamn, man.
Damn.
This shit crazy.
All right.
Ms.
Cleopatra, what do you got to say?
Save the female gender.
I think that your podcast was very professional.
I'm grateful for the opportunity.
I had fun.
I had fun.
I got attention in my outfit that I learned not to dress like a hoe every freaking Halloween.
My man might go kiss another man.
I still don't understand everything I mean just once a year my name is good it was good it was good bouncing off of other people's like opinions and getting perspective You're laughing about it, but nowadays that isn't too far-fetched.
Oh, it is rough out there.
I agree.
I agree, but we're not going to go there because that's a whole other topic.
Yeah.
A whole nother topic about men kissing other men and the agenda that they're pushing on our children.
That's a whole nother topic is what I'm saying.
Fantastic, man.
This was very...
This was lit.
Why is it always the black queens, bro?
I've been trying to help them and they don't get it, bro.
Damn.
Well, guys, I hope you enjoyed that show because I definitely lost some hair follicles on that one, man.
Us too.
Yeah.
And yo, DBZ stream on Friday, guys.
We're going to have it after the after hours, so make sure to tune in.
We'll be chatting about that.
Guys, like the fucking video.
Subscribe to the channel, man.
My hair, man.
I'm losing it.
So I'll catch you guys on the next episode on Wednesday.
Oh, by the way, real quick.
On Wednesday, right?
Wednesday show, but...
Frank Castle.
We have it on Locals right now.
CastleClub.tv.
Oh, shit.
The two flat-chested...
Sorry, flat-assed girls.
There you go.
Goddamn.
Alright, yeah.
CastleClub.tv if you guys want to check that out.
We love you.
We'll catch you guys on Wednesday.
We're going to have a couple's intervention on that one.
I think Icy's working on that for y'all.
So, we'll try to do that maybe two to three times a month.
Yeah.
Alright?
Love you guys.
Peace.
I just ran.
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