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Sept. 8, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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Tate Attorney Joe McBride & Former Fed EXPOSE "Trafficking Victims" LIES Against The Tates
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Welcome to Freshier Podcast.
We got a big one today.
We're here with Joe McBride, Andrew and Tristan's lawyer.
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Without further ado though, guest of honor, welcome.
Welcome, Joe.
We know who you are.
If you don't mind, tell the audience who you are.
Well, it's a pleasure to be here, guys, and thank you very much.
My name is Joe McBride.
I'm an attorney from Brooklyn, New York.
I represent Andrew and Tristan Tate, amongst some other people.
And we're in this battle.
We're in this battle against cancellation.
We're in this battle against misinformation, true misinformation, and fighting on the forefront of what it means to be a man.
And can you be a man in this world and not be persecuted for it and not go to jail for it?
Freedom of speech is at issue in my practice, and really the future of what it means to be a strong man in this country and around the world.
And when you think about that, two people come to mind.
That's Andrew and Tristan Tate.
Well said.
Absolutely.
Can you tell the audience your training, your background, experience, education?
Sure.
So I went to Benjamin Cardozo School of Law in New York City.
I was there for a few years.
I was an intern at the Innocence Project while I was there.
I worked for Barry Sheck.
He was one of O.J. Simpson's lawyers on the Dream Team.
Ah, okay.
Innocence Project is known for, if you've ever heard of a man who's gone to jail, generally men.
Incorrectly.
Incorrectly, and then been exonerated later on through DNA evidence.
That's the Innocence Project.
After that, I was at the criminal defense clinic over there for a year with the Legal Aid Society, and then I went on to be a public defender.
Prior to that, I was at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan.
I went to undergrad there and did my work there.
Nice.
So a lot of litigation experience.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, being a defense attorney.
So now, do you handle civil, criminal, everything?
Yeah, civil, criminal, First Amendment issues, people who are on the forefront of cancellation.
My background is in criminal, right?
Uh, and, uh, it just kind of melded, welded together from there.
It's a weird thing when you think about it, but, uh, 20 years ago, free speech was not criminalized, but it is a part of criminal law now.
I take it very seriously. - So the question is, is there actually free speech still?
Or is that really a thing or no?
- Well, we are in either the greatest defense of free speech of all time, or in the era where it's dying.
Fine gentlemen like you who are on this podcast on a regular basis speaking your mind, not caring what the establishment thinks.
People like Andrew and Tristan, politicians like Donald Trump, right?
We say divisive things, we speak our mind, and everybody's being persecuted for it.
And we have to defend it.
We have to defend it no matter what.
Without it, free democracy, free corporations, free trade, free anything cannot exist.
Right.
And that's why, you know, platforms like Rumble are so important, man.
Because, I mean, big tech definitely censors content, right?
We're on YouTube and Rumble, but guys, you know, you got to support Rumble.
Just so you know, we may end up there.
Yeah, yeah, man.
So...
So, obviously, the Tates have been, you know, the victims of what it looks like to me like a head job, right?
Maybe I might be a little bit biased from being their friends and knowing them personally and then seeing these, you know, charges come out of nowhere and I'm like, this doesn't make sense.
I've spent a good amount of time with these guys.
They're not human traffickers.
They're not grapists.
Like, this doesn't make sense.
Like, are they being targeted and why?
They are 100% being targeted.
There is no question about it.
There are a multitude of reasons for why they're being targeted.
None more easier to ascertain than what they're saying, what their message is.
When you have an entire corporate structure, an entire public partnership between the world governments and world banks and corporations that are trying to emasculate men, to neuter young men, an entire public partnership between the world governments and world banks and corporations that are trying to emasculate men, to neuter young men, to change the genders of people at a very young age, to
That is a fact, right?
And then when you look at Andrew and Tristan and their ability to put out a message on Twitter, on Rumble, on TikTok, whatever it's going to be, and get 10 million men, 10 million young boys who may have not have changed their lives and get those guys to jump up and go to the gym and say, hey, I can be somebody and maybe I am being programmed and maybe I should question things and maybe it is okay to be a man.
Well, wait a second.
It is okay to be a man.
Men are good.
Men are awesome.
Men are powerful.
There's a lot of good things in the world that happen because of men.
I'm going to stand up and be the best man that I can be.
That kind of power is crucial in the day that we live in.
And that kind of power is a threat to the establishment that Andrew refers to as the matrix.
And this is why they're being attacked.
They're being attacked not because of what they've done.
It's because of who they are and what they say.
Influence.
Yeah, and I think their influence is something that they really fear.
You know, if you can get a bunch of men to, you know, you can galvanate them to become better versions of themselves, they're not going to tolerate disrespect and BS and a bunch of people that don't necessarily appreciate them.
Even elections, you know, he says, hey man, I voted for this person, you can swear a whole election, so they're scared of that too.
Yeah.
Of course.
It's true influence, true power.
Yeah.
So, how'd you end up meeting them and getting on the team?
Or leading the team in this case.
You gotta go like into the backstory a little bit.
I became a lawyer for very personal reasons.
My brother was wrongfully convicted in 2005 of a crime that he absolutely did not commit.
I was like club promoting and in the mixed martial arts world at the time.
And when I watched my mom and dad, their hearts just break.
My brother go to jail, the effect it had on my family.
I said I had to do something.
So I got into the fight to try to free my brother from jail.
My brother did ten years, five of those years in the box.
What crime did they charge him with?
He was accused of hurting a child, a child that he absolutely did not hurt.
Oh, wow.
This is my adopted brother, born addicted to heroin and alcohol, really never dated much.
He had a girlfriend who had a kid.
She was abusing the kid.
She got caught.
The cops said, you know, testify against her in your walk.
My brother's a paranoid schizophrenic.
He did not have the right lawyer.
He did not have the right medical attention.
He did not want to testify.
The cops got mad at him, threatened him with 125 years of incarceration, and said, or you can take this deal for 15 years.
He goes, oh, that sounds good.
And off he went.
And it was a horrible day.
And I decided to become a lawyer.
It took me 10 years.
And I was not able to help my brother in any meaningful capacity.
But I committed my life toward fighting for people who were over-persecuted or prosecuted by government, wrongfully accused, wrongfully convicted, so on and so forth.
After January 6th happened at the Capitol, I started representing those people.
I said, these are the people who are being targeted.
I'm going to represent these people because I do not like the way that the government is going after them for their political beliefs.
It's not so much about...
What they did, they're being persecuted for who they believe in and who they voted for, right?
Some of these people showed up, and even if you punched a cop, right?
Who goes to jail for 20 years for punching a cop?
If you've pulled the fence, a guy just got 18 years the other day for pulling a fence.
Enrique Tarrio didn't even go to the Capitol.
He got 22 years, a guy from Miami, right?
So...
Oh, wow.
22 years just happened this week.
I said, I have to stand up for these guys.
I have to do something.
And in the beginning, nobody would go on TV. Nobody would talk about this stuff.
So I said, well, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna talk.
Put me in, coach.
Send me.
And I made a name for myself.
I got some good results.
I went from being a regional lawyer to sort of a national lawyer.
Some people in my world and Tate's world knew each other, and they said, hey, what about this guy?
Check him out.
They looked at me and said, it sounds good.
We met, we met up, and the rest is history.
You went to Romania, right?
Yeah, I went to Romania.
I went to Tucker Carlson.
I put that whole interview together.
Oh, nice.
What was your first impression of Andrew Tristan when you met them for the first time?
You know, they honestly just, they were exact.
So one thing about Andrew and Tristan, as you guys know, is they are who they are in person and online, and I recognized that immediately.
Real recognized is real.
So I could tell by the way I interacted with them, by the way I shook their hands, that they were the same people 24-7, 365, and I respect that a lot.
Yeah.
I also was happy to be there and happy to help them.
These are two guys who are good guys.
They're philanthropists.
They don't get enough credit for all the good work that they do in the world.
They're outspoken.
They have a lot of friends.
They have a lot of enemies.
But There was nobody sort of stepping into the gap saying, hey, I'm willing to take on this case, stand up in front of the world and say, you can't do this.
What's happening to them is wrong and to fight for them in a meaningful way.
So I was honored to be there.
I was happy to be there.
And it's not very often that a man has a chance to show up For two warriors, these are world champion kickboxers, warriors online, chess warriors, the whole nine.
These are brilliant, brilliant guys who are unable to defend themselves in the court of law.
They can defend themselves great in the court of public opinion, but they needed somebody in the court of law to jump in to help them, and I was happy and honored that I was able to do it.
Yeah, because it's crazy.
People that meet Andrew and Tristan, they know how they are as, you know, people.
But a clip people see out of context, you know, they make a lot of jokes, but they take it serious.
So it's kind of like, unless you meet them in person, you can't have the idea of them, but you met them in person, so you know.
Yeah, I know for sure.
For sure.
And, you know, just great.
Open that house to me.
Everybody that was there was treated the same.
And...
He's surrounded by his day ones.
They both are.
Family and friends that they've been in forever.
A very tight circle.
Smart thing to do.
One of the things that when you come up from nothing, you take your people with you and you're very weary of outsiders.
They run a tight ship and I appreciate that.
Especially nowadays, you have to be careful.
So, before we get into the general facts of the case and everything else like that, can you make...
Because people tend to think like, oh yeah, they're being...
Prosecuted here in Romania and but wait hold on how does he have a US lawyer wait I've seen this you know this other lawyer American lawyer that's in Romania like multiple yeah people are really confused as to what's going on what civil what's criminal what lawyers defending what what's going on can you kind of bring give some clarity to that yeah a hundred percent so because Andrew Tate is one of the famous most famous people in the world and Tristan Tate as well they have a Business interests and fans
and things happening all over the world.
As a consequence of that, they're being persecuted all over the world, right?
So they have a criminal case in Romania where they've famously been accused of human trafficking.
You have the public partnership between the UK governments and the BBC and the media out there that are going after them in the UK and in Western Europe.
We have the fact that they are American citizens.
They have interest in the United States of America.
We have an open civil case here where we're suing his accusers for defaming them and tortious interference of their business relationships.
So you have all these people, all these lawyers across the world, all these investigators across the world, helping us exonerate them in different forms and in different capacities.
I am one of the lawyers.
I am the public face.
I'm the point of intersection for a lot of the legal teams and strategies and PR people that talk to each other.
But it's a good thing when you have enough resources to be able to put together a world-class team to go to battle for you in what is no doubt a world-class fight.
Because I can imagine, you being the face of this case, you get a lot of pressure too.
Of course.
I mean...
Yeah, but I'm sort of, I'm used to it, you know, defending people, love them, I hate them, I want out them, but I have clients in Trump world who a lot of people, you know, can't stand for what some people love, some people hate.
January 6th, we laid litigation, I started getting some of these guys out of jail.
I actually had an attempt in my life.
Oh, wow.
In the April 5th of 2022, you name it, it's happened online, people have made threats, this, that.
You're used to it from the street.
I'm used to it.
What I'm doing is more important This is a mission for me.
It's a vocation.
I believe that It's part calling it's part God.
It's part patriotism.
It's part everything so I'm Happy that this is resting on my shoulders because I'm not going to relent in the pursuit of justice for Andrew and Tristan Wow, no man, absolutely So, what is the main distinction between the U.S. case versus the Romanian case?
Sure.
So, the Romanian case is a Romanian criminal case.
They've been accused of a few different things in the Romanian court of law.
And they have to prove their innocence according to the rules in a Romanian court.
They have a very good legal team out there, which I work with and consult with on a regular basis.
But that is a Romanian criminal case under Romanian law.
In the United States, in Florida, we have sued one of the women and some of the people who were involved in the Romanian case.
So let me explain.
There's this woman named Emma, and she's from Florida.
And she went to Romania after basically soliciting Tristan to go there and to start life over for whatever reason.
She gets to Romania and she's there for a total of six days.
Six days.
And in that time, she figures out that she's not going to be the end all be all over there.
She starts trouble over there.
Jealous of the other women that are there, etc.
Insanely jealous.
And then accuses them of human trafficking.
And gets the embassy involved, and this big thing explodes.
And there's a question of, was she sent there?
Was she groomed and prepared?
Did she target Tristan to infiltrate that group over there in order to bring them down to cause them trouble?
Or is this just a woman who's got a bad history of doing things?
Bill, let's pull up the lawsuit real fast, just so we can show the audience.
Please.
And just does what she does, right?
So...
We can see here, so we got here in the circuit court of the 15 Judicial Circuit in and for Palm Beach County, Florida, Civil Division.
Tristan and Andrew are the plaintiffs.
And then you got here Emma Gabby, an individual.
Mana Tabara Gabby, William Gabby, Alione Untila.
Did I pronounce that correctly?
Right.
And Matthew Martelli.
Just so you guys know, Emma Gabby is the main chick that he's referring to right now.
And then Aliona is the...
I think she's from Aldova.
But she lives in England.
She's a...
I think she's a dancer.
An exotic dancer.
And she was the one that made the accusation against Andrew.
If I'm correct there?
She's one of them, yes.
Yeah, she's one of them.
And then I guess the other people are Gabby's family members judging from the last names.
Right.
Okay.
And we've seen, well, behind the scenes, of course, and on live, some of their chats between each other talking about this whole debacle.
Yeah.
Which is crazy because they knew what they were doing from the very beginning.
Exactly.
They certainly knew what they were doing.
So, what's relevant about the American case is this.
Is that Florida has very strong defamation laws.
And if you publish a defamatory statement to the public, where you know it's going to hurt somebody's interest, it's going to hurt their reputation, it's going to defame them, it's going to slander them, it's going to cause them all types of problems.
If you know it's false, and if you publish it, And it actually has an effect on somebody's life.
You have a case, right?
I'm summarizing and putting together a whole bunch of law in one little pot, just for a moment.
She lied in Romania.
She sent text messages to people who are in Florida, mother, friends, so on and so forth, saying that I'm being held against my will.
This is going on.
That is going on.
It was all lies.
Those people then took it and republished it to other people in their life, which ended up in having Andrew and Tristan arrested in Romania on these charges.
It is illegal to defame somebody, and there is no greater impact that you can have on somebody's life than the deprivation of their freedom.
This woman's false allegations against Andrew and Tristan In the United States, wound up having them incarcerated in Romania, which not only took away their freedom, it took away their ability to operate as businessmen, it took away their ability to be fathers to their children, brothers and friends to the people who depend on them, so on and so forth.
That is a very serious thing.
She is the butt for causation.
Without her, none of this ever happens.
Pretty much get the other girl and rope her into this and say, hey, we're going to do this.
You need to help me.
You need to make accusations against Andrew.
She did.
She recruited one girl while she was there to sort of say that...
The situation wasn't up to par in Romania.
It was all lies.
The Romanian government interviewed a bunch of different people in the case, and two of the girls that they used as witnesses against Andrew and Tristan actually said, hey, Andrew and Tristan are great.
They have subsequently went on to make videos.
They're stand-up guys.
They would never rape.
We were free to go.
We were free to come as we please.
They paid us well.
We love our lives over here.
Why are you doing this to them?
Why are you labeling us as victims?
I know the two girls that made the videos.
That's right.
One of them even has a degree in psychology.
And the Romanian authorities at the time said, well, you've been brainwashed, sweetheart.
So you don't really know what you're saying.
So we're just going to take this paternalistic approach to you and just say, you know, we're going to speak for you for the time being.
And she's like, I have a psych degree.
I have not been brainwashed.
What is happening is wrong.
It is a lie.
These men are innocent.
You should take what I'm saying very seriously.
But they didn't do that.
Right?
And we have this big chain of events that has happened since that time.
But we dug down, before we sued in Florida, we dug down on this woman and in the people in her life.
She got a pass.
She got a pass?
A past.
A past, yeah.
How does she have a pass?
She's got a body count.
Yeah, we did the whole facts on her, man.
The whole facts.
Yeah, she's got a body count.
And you see a modus operandi.
You see a long history.
Of this person using sex as a means to lure men in, and then after she has sex with men, she revokes consent post-facto, and says, oh yeah, remember what we did last month?
Yeah, I was drunk.
You know, you did that to me, and you know, that wasn't right, and you kind of raped me, but you know...
If you buy me this or if you take me there, if you do this for me, I'll kind of make it go away.
It's blackmail, it's extortion.
The highest level.
She's been doing it for like 10 years.
Yeah.
Damn.
One guy is serving a sentence he should not be serving in jail.
Another guy arguably killed himself due to his interactions with her.
Wow.
Another guy sued her already.
His case is running concurrent to us in Palm Beach County.
Sued her for all the same things that Andrew and Tristan are suing for.
Oh, wow.
And other people have come out since that time saying...
Was that lawsuit up before you guys sued?
Or did he kind of file around the same time?
Got filed a few days before we filed.
That's despicable, bro.
Yeah, that's wild.
Who does that?
What the hell?
It's bad.
It's really bad.
Andrew and Tristan could not be more innocent.
You don't have to like everything that they say.
You can hate what they say.
But just because you hate what somebody says, that does not rise to the level of criminality.
And you shouldn't be deprived of your freedom or want to deprive somebody of their freedom simply because they have an opposing viewpoint on politics, religion, faith, gender, whatever it is.
Turn the other cheek.
Start a podcast, write a book, challenge them to a debate, don't throw them in jail.
Yeah.
I have a query because I think people don't care because it's not them, but what if it's your brother, your father, your uncle that helps take care of your family and someone accuses him falsely, which is a whole lie, and then he gets us away.
What are you going to do for your family?
Here's the scary part too.
We talked about this and I've said it before.
If this could happen to them, this could happen to anybody.
And luckily they have the resources and the ability to hire someone like Joe, right?
An expert in this situation is able to properly defend them.
But other people might not have the resources, right?
Imagine you'd have the money or the status or the ability to properly defend yourself.
You'd be literally within a woman's like this clenches and you'd be at her mercy.
That's right.
That's right.
And it's unfortunate because if Andrew and Tristan had different politics, if Andrew and Tristan had different beliefs, they would be celebrated.
We're talking about two mixed race, half white, half black gentlemen who grew up in a home where their mom and dad did not live together.
They grew up in the projects, in the ghetto, in Luton, in England.
They've clawed and scraped and fought for everything that they have accomplished.
In terms of cultural competency, people like to...
If you look at...
Let's take trap music or hip-hop music and you look at the lyrics, right?
And you say, okay, we accept those lyrics because that's representative of a certain community, a certain demographic.
Andrew and Tristan come from that community.
Andrew and Tristan come from that demographic.
But you're criminalizing the same thing that Andrew and Tristan are saying because of their politics and because of their message of male empowerment.
They should be celebrated.
You don't have to...
Have a degree in rocket science to see that these are two men who had nothing, who became chess champions, kickboxing champions, and now sort of champions of social media influencing.
That is a good thing that people should look to, and aspire to be, and aspire to beat, quite frankly.
But we have a system that's trying to suppress them because of their message.
Yeah, wow.
So we talked a little bit about the primary accusers, right?
We have Emma, Gabby, and then we have Alione, the other girl who pretty much was influenced heavily by Emma.
So Emma's the ringleader here for this.
Can we kind of go over, I guess, the backstory of how this all came to be?
I didn't even know that she was only there for six days.
Six days.
That's wild.
And the other girl was there for longer.
The Alione girl.
And we know that she was jogging every day and walking the dogs and going grocery shopping and everything else like that.
So she didn't have an issue before until this chick showed up.
Right.
But yeah, I guess if we can go over...
You know, summarize it to the best that you want to.
I can definitely walk you guys through and your listeners.
But before I do that, I just want to make a brief sort of statement about the Romanian government and the system over there.
Please, yeah.
Because Andrew and Tristan's fate is in their hands.
I actually think right now that in terms of justice, the way that the Romanian justice system is trending is a bit more honorable than what's happening in, let's say, the D.C. courts in the United States.
It's true.
The judges over there don't seem to be very influenced by outside policies.
They've recently looked at the file, the case file against Andrew and Tristan, and they let them out after months of incarceration.
It's not very often that you see one or two men who are accused of leading an organized crime ring of human traffickers and then they get let out and put back out on the street.
You have to ask yourself.
So why has that happened?
Well, it happened because there came a point in time where the judges were actually able to look at the file and they were saying, and they have said, which is demonstrated by their release, There's a lot of problems with this.
And unless there's more, we're not going to hold them in.
You don't see that in human trafficking cases ever.
That is an indication of innocence.
That is an indication of problems with the Romanian case.
So you have to ask yourself, well, why haven't they thrown out the case in Romania altogether if it's weak?
And it is weak.
We can discuss it with great particularity.
The reason why that hasn't happened is because there is this believe all women captain in soy boy army prosecutor who has a personal vendetta for one reason or another against Andrew and against Tristan.
And he's a fairly influential prosecutor.
He's got a pretty good career of putting people away before this.
And he has targeted Andrew and Tristan and he won't let up.
And what prosecutors do often, even in the Innocence Project related cases, a guy will be in jail for 20 or 30 years for a rape and a murder he did not commit.
He'll be exonerated from DNA evidence.
He will subsequently sue and get tens of millions of dollars for the decades of life that he lost.
The prosecuting office will never even issue an apology.
Of course not, yeah.
They don't care.
Wow.
They just they don't care.
They don't care about human life.
So they just think you have this tunnel vision.
And because they're the establishment, because they don't need to apologize, they won't apologize.
So what you have with the Romanian prosecutor is something that's very typical.
It's tunnel vision.
He has a vision and he believes that he's right and no one's going to tell him otherwise.
It is my hope that the Romanian justice system and the court sees this for what it is, looks at the file based on its merits and facts and does not listen to this guy because this guy shouldn't be listened to.
This guy's not a good person.
He's targeting them, and people need to know about it.
Let me ask you this, because we brought this up on the show multiple times before, defending Ed and Tristan, and we were there in Romania for a couple days.
And there was evidence, and you could see even in the rooms, there's camera footage everywhere.
There's cameras everywhere.
So if they were doing anything illegal, it'd be on camera.
Why don't they just show the footage in court?
There is no footage of anything illegal.
What you have that's available in footage is these women being free to go.
Yes.
And we showed it.
We showed it on our podcast.
We showed it on the CCTV. Of them walking out with their bags.
Eating, shopping, having fun, laughing.
Coming back and forth.
Dancing at a party.
If you're being held captive, then you can leave just like that?
And then come back?
Why come back?
It is an absolute, disgusting, defamatory lie that has caused an untold amount of damage to them.
And we're not going to stop until we've cleared their names.
Cleared their names in Romania and asserted their interests and their constitutional rights in the United States.
Gotcha.
So I think that's an important distinction for the people to know that this is not a U.S. court of law where the criminal case is being filed.
It's a foreign court.
I don't know if they have the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty in Romania.
Is that the standard of proof?
Is it beyond a reasonable doubt or is it completely different?
It's a little bit different.
I'm no expert in Romanian law.
I consult on the case out there, and we do a great job, but I leave that up to Aline and the team out there.
They're fantastic at what they're doing.
There are some similarities.
There are some differences.
One of the differences is the fact that they'll go before a panel of judges, and it won't be a jury.
Oh, there is no jury trials.
Yeah, it's not going to be a jury like you would have over here.
Okay.
Another difference is perjury is kind of treated differently over there.
It's not as serious as it is here.
Oh, wow.
Whereas, one of the good distinctions about Romania is what is treated far more serious than in the United States is if you falsely accuse him in court, and we can prove that you falsely accused him in court, then it's your ass.
Okay.
Okay.
Then you're in trouble.
It's like perjury plus one in the United States.
Okay.
So let's talk about that for a minute.
Sure.
Emma Gabby goes into Romanian court.
She files a false complaint and testifies falsely.
She falsely accuses Andrew and Tristan in court.
Because Romanian law is so strong on somebody's accusations, cases formed against them and they eventually wind up in jail.
Okay.
There are text messages, communications, and video evidence that completely refutes her claims.
We just spoke about some of the CCTV footage.
When you look at the text messages, you see her, Emma, and Alyona saying, hey, we're going to get Oscars for this.
They're going to give us a golden trophy.
Do you want us to pull it up on the complaint?
Yeah, we can.
Let me see.
We can pull it up on the complaint.
Yeah, I remember seeing those texts on WhatsApp basically go back and forth with her, her family, and then the girls.
And you could see clearly that they were acting to get a response and put Andrew Tristan away.
Yeah.
And you said that she, Emma Gammy, testified in court.
Do you mean like when she gave her police statement or her statement to Dicot or the police or law enforcement statement?
She gave that and that's considered like a sworn statement because they haven't been in Romania since, right?
They've been gone.
I know they went to the French Riviera and probably were having fun.
Right, right.
So she gave a written statement and she spoke to the judges in the court.
Okay, so that's how it goes there.
Since we're talking about Dicot real quick, it's also worthy to note that Dicot is filled with good people.
They're getting a bad reputation in the press.
But I actually think that Dicot is more honorable than the FBI. Far more honorable.
There are good people over there who care about the truth and care about justice.
They took her allegations very seriously because they're just not accustomed to women coming in their court lying about human trafficking.
So they took it seriously.
But her statements are controverted.
They're completely controverted.
They're disqualified.
They can be impeached in a court of law in a million different ways because she literally says that we're lying.
We're gonna get awards.
We're gonna go put on tears right now.
I can't wait to go to London.
I can't wait to do this.
I can't wait to do that.
They lie across different mediums, WhatsApp, text messages, conversations, videos, and there's no truth to what they're saying.
So, what do we do with that information?
We're trying to get the Romanian court to take notice of the fact that Emma's actually the wrongdoer and the Romanian system is also a victim of her scheme.
Now, a lot of this sounds like, well, you know, okay, she lied in text messages, maybe it's not that serious, but when you look back at her history, She has a history in the United States, in particular in Florida, of falsely accusing men who she has had sex with.
After she can't blackmail them, after she can't say, I'm going to report you, if they don't give in to her demands, she then actually reports them.
There have been many men who have...
There's one man who's gone to jail because of it.
There's another man who had his life ruined because of it.
a modus operandi, a history of this woman weaponizing the criminal justice system against men in order to destroy their lives.
So you can't just look at this situation in Romania in isolation.
As a one-off.
As a one-off.
You got to connect it to her trail of victims.
And when you connect it, you see a 10-year scheme.
She thought that she could just continue to do what she was doing in America and go to Romania and do it there.
And it was going to be just as inconsequential, right?
Guy would go to jail for the weekend, or maybe this would happen or that would happen, that would be the end of it.
But the whole thing blew up because, you know, she went after two men who were not your average Joes.
Yeah.
And I think it's very important for the audience to know that what this girl does, guys, is she gets on dating sites, circus sites especially, where she targets rich, affluent guys.
And she hooks up with them and then she'll disclose them after, oh, I was young, I was 17.
Or she'll say, hey, if you don't give me this or that, I'm going to go ahead and go to the police and allege a crime against you of grape or whatever it may be, or sexual assault.
And, you know, these guys look at it like, okay, I know I didn't do it.
But, do I want the headache of dealing with this and potentially having my reputation ruined?
Because we all know, on this side of the internet especially, if you're accused of a crime like this, whether you're innocent or guilty, your reputation is going to take a significant hit.
You know, no one cares that you were exonerated and that she was lying.
They care that you were accused in the first place and you're always going to carry that title.
So what do the guys do?
Well, I have the money to pay her off.
Leave me alone.
And they pay her off.
And she's been able to do this successfully for a very long time, especially targeting rich guys.
And she used this through sugar sites, Hinge, Bumble, all these dating sites that she's used it with.
And didn't she have a boyfriend at the time?
Oh, yeah.
At the time when she was in Romania, I think she did, actually.
That's crazy, bro.
Well, if we want to pull up page 39 of the complaint.
All right.
And while Bills pulls that up, can you give the guys real quick, because we've been jumping around a bit as far as her background and everything else like that.
Can we cover the six days or what led up to the six days of what happened, just the general facts?
Sure.
Just so the guys know what happened?
So...
Emma...
You can hide it for now, Bill.
We got it ready, though.
So after...
Go ahead, you can give the summary, and then we'll pull it up.
Sure.
Emma meets Tristan on a dating site.
Okay.
Right?
So, you know, Tristan's like any other dude.
He's in Miami.
He's scrolling away, and she looks good.
I like you.
You like me.
He's a good-looking guy.
She's like, I like him.
They meet up.
She comes to a war room event in Miami.
Oh, wow.
That must have been when they were here with us on the boat.
December of 22?
21.
Yeah.
We could have the years mixed up here.
Yeah.
December 21.
That was when we were here.
Yeah.
I think it was when we did our Avengers pod.
Around that time.
Yup.
I didn't know that.
He met her in Miami physically here.
Physically in Miami.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, she preys on guys in Miami.
She's cold-blooded, bro.
Cold-blooded.
Damn.
Okay, so she met him here.
I remember that when they were here.
So, okay, and then, sorry.
No, it's okay.
Look, it's...
That's crazy.
It's like, it could have been you.
Yeah, they knew each other.
Dude, they'd known each other for that.
I didn't know they knew each other that long.
Wow.
All right.
So, okay, so they meet in about the end of 2021.
Right.
Miami.
You know, they talk for a bit online.
She represents herself as an affluent, young, aspiring artist, you know?
Of course, typical Miami girl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm a rapper.
I'm a TikToker.
I'm an influencer.
Musician, yeah.
All right, bro.
So she can sing.
And she can play instruments, right?
So at some point, the War Room event is wrapping up.
There's a bar, there's a piano, and she starts playing on the piano and singing.
Everybody's like, oh, wow, who's this girl?
Very interesting.
She presents well.
She meets Tristan.
One thing leads to another.
They hook up, they have fun, and off he goes.
You know, back to his life, and he starts to travel again.
They talk periodically over the course of that time.
She is interested in leaving to Romania.
Because she knows that he's there.
He's like, look.
And you can see this in the text messages.
And Romania's not close, guys.
You're going out of your way to go out there.
So this woman goes out of her way to go see Tristan.
Yeah.
And Tristan even says, look, you've got a good life.
Why do you want to leave?
Oh, the politics here are too much.
America's too aggravating.
There's a real opportunity for me in Romania.
I can go do this.
I can do that.
He says, okay, you want to come?
Come.
So she's like, okay, can I have your credit card so I can...
Book a flight.
She grabs his card, books herself a business class flight out to Romania.
And she's there for a few days.
And the first couple days, everything is fine.
And she realizes that she's not the only beautiful girl in town.
There's many.
Right, there's many.
And all of a sudden, she has an axe to grind with him.
She tries to exert influence over him like she would do other guys, but he's not easily intimidated.
He just says, hey, listen, you know, you're here.
Have a good time.
Everything is all right.
She tries to get involved in Andrew's personal business.
He's, please don't get involved in my brother's business.
That's not your lane.
Stay in your lane.
You came here to do something good.
Do it.
Two days later, she's accusing him of human trafficking.
Wow.
That is the full scope of what happened.
Add in a party that she danced in with her friends.
I remember that.
A few pizzas, some shopping.
That's her entire trip.
Which Andrew and Tristan weren't even there when they filmed those TikToks and they said they were being held.
And I think they went to the police like the next day after that party and made their accusations on or about April 22nd, if I'm not mistaken?
2022?
Yeah, it's first week of April.
She gets there around the 5th.
She's gone by like the 11th, I believe.
11th or 12th.
Okay.
At some point, she realizes what she did.
She goes...
So she calls the U.S. Embassy.
So she's there at the house, and she calls the U.S. Embassy...
Or did she call her family first?
Well, she called her family.
Okay.
And her family should objectively know that she's troubled and has a long and storied history of pulling crap, of lying.
She's run away from them, too, plenty of times, right?
Yes.
And falsely, there was a...
If you just Google Emma Gabby, go to Facebook and put her name on her.
She's been exposed.
Google her.
On Twitter too.
Yeah, she'd been exposed.
But her first lie was like, there was a news report about her in like 2016 or 15.
It was like, oh, this girl was kidnapped.
And she like ran to Orlando or something.
And then there was a subsequent report was like, oh, it was basically just a hoax.
Like she was fine.
It's still there.
You can pull it up.
Like she's been lying for a long time.
And so we mentioned her boyfriend in Florida.
So she reaches out to him.
So she calls her family and her boyfriend.
Right.
So he comes in like real hot.
Riding on a horse.
Captain Sabo.
He comes in like, you know, you're being human trafficked.
This is what's going on.
And she's like dancing with him.
You know, like, oh yeah, it is happening.
Like, it's like a little bit adventurous.
Like, it's a little bit of guilt.
Maybe she wants to get money from him.
Maybe whatever it is.
But he's like, ah, you need to go to the embassy.
We need to get the embassy involved.
And she realizes that if the embassy gets involved, she may have to go back home.
Right?
And she doesn't want to go back home.
She wants to hang out.
And then she wants to go to London.
This is not somebody who's being human trafficked.
You're being human trafficked.
You want to get the hell out of there yesterday, right?
So she literally tells him, please don't do this.
I take it all back.
Don't get the embassy involved.
Don't do this.
Don't do that.
And if you look at page 39 on the complaint.
Let's pull it up real fast.
It's paragraph 97.
Yep.
Right here.
I see it in the bold.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here, I can grab my glasses and read it.
Finally, as E. Gabby becomes fully aware of the ramifications of her actions, she wants Martelli to retract the U.S. Embassy call and then proceeds to accuse Martelli of orchestrating the scheme.
And here's the text right here.
Wow.
Martelli, she's a human trafficking victim.
Martelli, she'll be entitled to protection.
Gabby goes, but she needs to go to London to her family.
We bought the tickets.
I wish I could take it back.
Please, Matt, please do anything.
I'll do anything to take it back.
Martelli goes, yes.
They'll evaluate her.
E. Gabby goes...
I'm so sad you're doing this.
And she's referring guys to Aliona, the other girl who was with Andrew at the time, the Moldovan dancer that lives in the UK. Right.
Wow.
Right.
And if you scroll up...
Straight from her phone, guys.
And this is probably done via...
I'm assuming through WhatsApp, right?
These messages?
WhatsApp messages.
And at the top of that page, you see some other messages.
And he's like, yeah, I called.
And she's like, goodbye, Matt.
I just wanted to go to London.
Like, it's only me and the other girl who wanted to leave.
And she's clearly not in a state of duress.
She's clearly not being human trafficked.
Yeah.
So, she overcommits.
She realizes the consequences of her actions.
And instead of just backing people up and saying, hey, look, this has gone too far.
This is not what it seems.
Once the authorities get involved, she commits.
She doubles and she triples down.
So, it's consciousness of guilt.
This is her Straight up admitting this is not what I said it was I should probably just this kills it in the water right here right here And these are her messages from her phone to her boyfriend because this is what probably went down and please correct me because you actually had access to the messages and you wrote this complaint and She tells her boyfriend, I'm in Romania, I'm being held against my will, to absolve herself of responsibility of cheating on her boyfriend.
Boom.
Right?
And then he's like, because if she had told him straight up, oh yeah, I bought business class tickets and I came out here to see Tristan and fuck him, that wouldn't sound so good, would it?
So instead she's like, I'm being held here against my will, so that she gets him on her side.
He reacts, right?
Oh my God, my girl's in danger.
She's being held.
We need to call the embassy, blah, blah, blah.
And then once she realizes that there's no turning back once you involve the U.S. Embassy and the government and the police are going to come, etc.
She's like, no, no, no, please don't do that.
And then once the police actually do get involved, she switches her story back up again.
Is that what it was?
She basically comes in on the frame of being held against to absolve herself of being a cheater?
I'm sorry, bro.
If my girl's going to Romania, of all places, randomly, what did she tell me to go there?
I want to know what she's saying because, bro, that's thousands of miles away.
What the hell?
What did she say in the beginning, I guess?
I mean, I don't know what she said, what her excuse was in terms of why she went there.
We didn't get those messages yet.
But if you go up to page 36, just scroll up a few pages, paragraph 91, she's actively trying to talk him out of it again.
Pull that up, Bills, please.
Yo, this is wild, bro.
Paragraph 91, right?
Yeah, if you see Martelli, it says, say I'm an American and I'm in danger.
Martelli, apparently in love or infatuated by E-Gabby, then starts contacting government friends that eventually puts the United States Embassy in Bucharest on alert of Emma, Gabby's allegations that Gabby and Eliana Untilla We're being human trafficked by the Tate Brothers.
Martelli does this despite the fact Gabby tries to talk Martelli out of calling the U.S. Embassy as demonstrated in the below.
And then, bam, there's the messages right there.
And if you look, underlined, don't panic any calls, please.
I just want to go to London.
LOL. Bro, what the?
Yeah, bro.
I want to go to London, lol.
Bro, this is scary stuff, man.
She ruined two guys' lives, or tried to ruin it.
Because, number one, she didn't want to admit to her boyfriend that she was cheating on him.
Yeah.
And then, number two, she wanted to go to London.
She's a serial cheater.
Yeah.
For sure.
She's a serial extortionist.
She's a serial liar.
If you go up to, let's see.
And I want the audience to also understand, this kills it dead in the water, because you guys can remember, all of these charges, Pretty much stem from this.
Yes.
Which you guys are seeing right here.
These accusations that she's making are what generated all of this in the first place.
It's why the search was done.
It's why the house was raided.
It's why they were arrested later on in the year.
It comes from this and you can see actively she's trying to withdraw the statement like no no don't tell the US Embassy.
And they also use videos out of context to add to this agenda as well.
They sure do and Wow.
The exhibits in the Florida case right now are under seal.
Their lawyer is trying to prevent the public from seeing what's actually in these exhibits.
Most of the exhibits...
Oh, her lawyer.
Yeah, her American lawyer.
Okay, her American lawyer that's defending her in the defamation case doesn't want your guys' evidence out there.
For obvious reasons.
It's horrible.
Yeah.
I mean, you see...
Can't you fight that?
Oh, we're fighting it, right?
We're fighting it, and we're going to win.
We have evidence of her as a sex worker.
We have evidence of her targeting guys.
I mean, you name it, it is there.
It is a worst-case scenario in terms of who she is morally and who she is as a criminal, and this is why they're trying to bury it.
But if you just go up to page 34, right?
And you see where it says paragraph 86.
You just scroll right above that real quick.
Yep.
And it says, I'm talking to my friend about it now.
She's saying you should try to get money from Andrew.
They're talking about how to get money from Andrew before they bounce to London.
And then if you just scroll down below that, paragraph 86, it says, cover tracks, always.
Oh my God.
I'm going to pull some tears out.
I mean, do you see this?
These are messages.
Oh my God.
You scroll down to the next page.
This is evil, man.
Page 35, right above paragraph 88.
We're going to write a movie ASAP. Let's email Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime.
I'm dying inside.
I'm laughing.
They're just like, look, we're going to destroy these guys' lives.
We're going to become famous.
No one is going to believe that these guys are not guilty.
And then we're going to have a Netflix series about it.
Wow.
So, this is dead in the water on 55 different occasions.
This makes me mad, bro.
Yeah.
It should make you better.
This could happen to anybody.
Bro, we could have met this chick.
People are...
She's from Miami.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, we could have met this chick.
Because people are saying, oh, they're guilty.
But if it was your brother, your father, you wouldn't be laughing or saying that at all.
Yeah.
And this is malicious, man.
This is like intentionally being evil.
It's pure evil.
Damn, bro.
Yeah, it is pure evil.
And so...
She's into some wild stuff, and I want to be careful about what I'm saying about her.
I would encourage everybody to, and I'll make it available to you guys, and maybe we can put it up at some point.
We have a link to the complaint.
To read the complaint and to read the statement of facts.
Anybody who reads the statement of facts, especially if you're a Tate detractor, if you hate Andrew and Tristan Tate, and if you think that they are guilty as hell, you should read this.
You should think about the evidence that's clearly presented in the complaint and then ask yourself at the end of that process, can I really say with any reasonable degree of certainty, with a reasonable mind, that they are guilty?
They are not.
And when you look at the body count that she has and how many guys' lives that she's destroyed, you're going to see somebody who is beyond the pale in terms of...
A predator.
She is a sexual, serial predator who preys on men and who destroys their lives.
If you go to page 20, at the top of page 20, There's a man who's in jail, and I'm not going to say his name because it's the subject of another Florida case, but the man is in jail.
And Emma, before she was 18, had this scheme where she would go on these dating sites, say she was 22, she was 24, she had fake IDs, she would go to bars, go out on dates.
You have no reason to suspect that she was underage.
That's right.
And then she would say, oh, by the way, remember that, you know, I want you to do this.
I want you to do that.
You don't do it.
I'm underage.
I'm underage.
I've been having sex with you for a year.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
Right?
Oh, if you don't do what I want you to do right now, I'm going to report you for statutory rape.
You know, in Florida, all they got to do is breed that in the court and you're going to get smoked.
You're going down.
Yeah.
Not knowing of age is not a defense in the state of Florida, guys.
So in other words, if a chick is underage and you hook up with her and you was like, I met her at a bar, I thought she was 21, she told me she was 21, and you have all this proof, it doesn't matter.
That is not a legal defense to statutory rape.
That's right.
In Florida.
There is one guy, and there were probably others, but there is one guy, he's incarcerated, right?
Incarcerated right now.
He got like a 26-year sentence.
Now, this guy was way older than her, and she was on the younger side at that time, but she still lied to him about her age.
Maybe he knew, maybe he should have known, I don't know, right?
But he's in jail.
What is relevant about it is that she did not tell the court, the police, the prosecutors that she lied to him about his age before they had sex.
And while that's not a defense in Florida, it would be relevant for sentencing.
It's a difference if you've knowingly did it for purposes of sentencing and did not know it.
So that could have took what's now a 26-year sentence and maybe it would have been a 10-year sentence or a 5-year sentence.
Who knows, right?
But she's with this guy, Marlon, and Marlon Fisher has sued her right now in court in Palm Beach.
She's the guy who I told you about.
She's having a conversation about him.
Marlon finds out that she's underage.
He starts digging into her life and finds out that she's destroyed all these people's lives.
He finds out that there's this guy in jail, sitting in jail, unjustly for too long of a time.
He tells her, look, you should tell the police about the truth.
That way, you know, you can clear this up for him.
She threatens him.
She threatens to have him locked up.
And he drops it because he's just like, look, I can't deal with this right now.
At some other point, she's talking about going to meet the prosecutor.
For the other case, that's putting the other guy in jail.
For the other case.
Sorry, if you just go up to 19.
Okay.
So Marlon's confronting her, and if you see the highlighted portion...
This is page 19 right here?
Yeah.
Okay, right.
If you choose, that one.
Okay, she goes, if you choose to blackmail me, I'd have no choice except to be honest with the world about what you've done to me, why, and you would have to suffer the repercussions of the truth among several men that are attributing to my problems of behavior of whom I also have evidence for...
And then he goes, I hear your points and I'm not manipulating you to do anything.
You could do something to prevent me if this were blackmail.
There's nothing you can do.
I hoped you wouldn't be shallow and selfish.
I hoped you would show me you care.
You show me you don't care at all.
And then she responds, you blackmailed, betrayed my trust and abandoned me.
Emphasis added.
And then...
Abby goes, she goes, thanks for abandoning me, emphasis added.
Notice her choice of words.
Yeah, of course.
She's very smart while she's texting back.
Yeah.
For evidence.
Very smart.
So now if you scroll down to just the top of the next page.
Okay.
Now, she's going to...
Inquires with M. Fisher.
This one.
Yeah, that's one right there.
So just let me give context.
She's getting ready to go meet with the Palm Beach County prosecutor.
Yeah, because she's the witness.
Because she's the witness and sentencing is getting ready to happen.
And sentencing is getting ready to happen.
Sorry about that.
And he's saying, do the right thing.
And she's saying, I will, I will, what we just read.
I'll ruin your life.
So he tells her to come clean and not put this innocent guy in jail.
And she's like, no, I'm gonna continue.
That is right.
So what she does is on her way to court, or at some point, she puts a butt plug in her ass.
And then she says to him, do you think the butt plug will go off when I cross the metal detectors going to court?
She's getting off on this guy's suffering.
Wow.
And read that right there.
Would a butt plug go off through a metal detector?
For context, E. Gabby's asking M. Fisher if wearing her butt plug would set off the courthouse metal detector that she needed to go through in order to meet with district attorney who was prosecuted, jailed John based on E. Gabby's allegations.
So this woman gets sexual satisfaction from wrongfully putting a man in jail with lies and she's asking her current lover if the butt plug in her anus is going to go off.
Like, bro, this is fucking sick.
It's next level sick.
So, at some point, things go...
This is wild.
This is worse than a scary movie, bro.
Bro, going to meet with the prosecutor who's gonna ruin this man's life.
She's going to lie under oath, by the way, meeting with this prosecutor as a witness in the case.
And she gets off to putting this innocent guy in jail.
Wow.
So, Marlon, the guy who's telling her to clear it up, shortly thereafter, the guy, Emma says, I want you to go to a concert with me.
Marlon's like, I gotta work.
I can't do this.
I need to be left alone.
So she says, well, if you don't do what I want you to do, I will accuse you of rape and domestic violence in court.
She files a false report against him in Palm Beach court.
He's got to go in.
He's like, look, I'm done with you.
You lied to the Palm Beach County court like you did about this other guy.
I'm not dealing with this anymore.
And she issues like this long statement to him in a series of text messages where she admits the lying and she says, look, I'm going to clear this up.
So if you just go to 20, to page 20 right there, and where it says M. Fisher, he's talking about these are all the false things that you said about me in court.
Okay.
Hey guys, just so you know, we're going to read the chats, and we're going to read the rants after this.
We just want to make sure we get it all out there, so if we answer one of your questions throughout the course, it'll be answered, and then, you know, obviously we'll open it up for Q&A at the end.
So, okay, sorry.
So this is page 20 here, you said?
Yeah, and I mean, in terms of pulling this complaint apart, I think this is like the really, like the last paragraph that you should read.
Okay.
But write down until the quotes are done into the next page.
Okay, I will, here, let me throw, I can read it.
So this is Fisher saying, you falsely accused me, and you constructed and masterminded a completely false narrative under me.
This is a year before she accuses Andrew and Tristan.
So see what this guy says and how she responds.
So he goes, the things I remember being on it were that I, was a heavy user of illicit drugs, would beat you when you tried to leave, restrain you from leaving, or calling the cops, often left you on the side of the highway if you said anything to upset me.
And that I had been stalking you and showing up places that I knew you would be after you anything.
So he's reading her complaint that she had given to the police, which wasn't true.
This is what she told them.
Now, next page, what does she say?
And she responds, that's so fucked up that I wrote that.
I'm going to clear this up.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Keep reading.
Get to the bottom.
Watch.
Not to defend any of this, but to clarify, I promise I never said you were a user of drugs.
You weren't the one writing it?
Fisher responds, and she goes, the things I were definitely rewarded...
I think she meant it right here, but I'll read it verbatim.
The things I were definitely rewarded and exaggerated.
They asked me of events, and then they reworded my words in the official injunction document.
I was brought in to speak to two lawyers, the legal aide who had just finished law school that was defending me and her colleague who was training her.
Then she goes, I'm incredibly sorry that what I said encapsulated a completely false narrative, especially that paints you as a terrible person because you aren't.
You never deserved to be treated that way.
Nobody does.
And then she follows up saying...
None of it was okay.
Absolutely none of it.
Is there anything you can think of that I can do to prove that I understand that and truly am repentant?
Holy fuck.
What the hell?
If you go back up to that top thing...
Talk about psycho-narcissist?
Crazy.
And it's the same allegations.
The things that I remember on it...
The heavy illicit use of drugs.
I would beat you when you tried to leave.
I restrained you.
This is the same kind of allegations against Andrew and Tristan.
It's not our first time.
It's not our second time.
It's not our third time.
It's our 10th time doing this.
And when confronted with what she told them, she even says, oh, I didn't mean for it to come off that way.
That's exaggerated.
There's another point in this complaint, I mean, where she talks about she's a pathological liar, she puts this big confession out into the world, says, I have a history of lying, I need to lie, I'm a compulsive liar.
I mean, if anybody who reads this complaint will see that this woman is totally, totally troubled, Andrew and Tristan are totally innocent, and there's a trail of bodies, including a guy who killed himself, pursuant to their interactions with this woman.
And that is...
The truth is all right here.
All you gotta do is read about it.
And this is directly from her phone.
Like, guys, these are messages that she personally sent herself.
This is from her phone.
So it's like, I can't stress enough how much you need the whole facts on these girls, bro.
Because, dude, that is crazy.
Like, I'm pretty sure if Andrew Tristan knew that, they'd never bring the remaining.
But they didn't know.
No, they had no clue.
Yeah, they had no clue, man.
Yeah, guys, new rule.
A girl on a date with you?
Google her name, bro.
Facts!
You have to, bro.
That's crazy, man.
That's wild.
Real quick.
Yo, we're going to kill the Twitch, Twitter, Facebook.
Guys, come on over to YouTube and Rumble.
Some chats real quick?
Yeah, I'm going to hit the chats.
So guys, go ahead and come on over to YouTube and Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit.
Also on YouTube.
And do me a favor, guys.
Like the video, man, so this can go up in the algorithm so more people can see this.
This can save a life.
Many lives.
This is really crazy.
I was pretty well versed in the case, but I didn't know some of these details.
And also, I didn't know she had only been there for six days.
And for all the male haters of Andrew Tristan, if this was you in this case, you want somebody to defend you as well?
I guarantee that.
Yeah.
I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy, bro.
Nah, bro.
I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy.
Damn.
Wallahi.
Yeah.
Let's go ahead and hit some of these chats real fast, because I know you guys probably have some questions.
We need an app called The Whole Facts, actually.
Yeah.
Are we on YouTube and Rumble only?
Something, bro.
Yeah, let's kill the other streams.
Yeah.
All right.
YouTube on Rumble only.
So guys, go ahead and get your rants in.
FNFSuperChat.com.
So you can go ahead and if you want to ask a question on the show or get a Rumble rant in.
So let's go ahead and go to it.
This is disturbing, bro.
Yeah, dude.
This is wild.
I'm not going to lie.
The fact that she even says, oh yeah, I didn't mean for it to come off that way sounded exaggerated like, bro.
What the hell, man?
She knows what she's doing, bro.
What does Joe think of recent sentencing of Proud Boys leader to 15 to 20 years since I know he represented a lot of J6 defenders?
I think it's an egregious miscarriage of justice.
I mean, these guys, irrespective of their political beliefs, went to a protest that got out of hand.
And January 6th did not happen in a vacuum.
There was a stream of protests related to George Floyd and other unfortunate deaths in this country of minority persons that led to protests.
All over the place, some of them got violent.
Most of those people got a slap on the wrist.
So the expectation was if you went to the Capitol and got into it and things popped off that day, you'd get a slap on the wrist and go home.
No one could have ever conceived that somebody would get 20 years in jail for doing the same thing that somebody in Minneapolis did.
It's ridiculous.
Were they made to be an example to the public, you think?
Of course.
These guys, this is the criminalization of Of free speech.
It is the politicization.
It's politicizing the criminal justice system to suppress political dissidents.
It is the idea that if you do not subscribe to the party narrative, the communist party narrative that's in power, we will crush you with the power of the United States government.
We'll fall in line and do what you're told and dress how you're supposed to dress and call people their pronouns.
Otherwise, we're going to lock you up and we're going to throw away the key.
Yeah, that's what we're going towards, man.
Alex Jones' guy, also, I think you recently got arrested.
Do you hear about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've spoken to him.
He's got a good lawyer.
I think they're looking for like a hundred and something days for him in jail.
Are you talking about Owen?
Because it's a misdemeanor, I think, if they're trying to charge him.
They're trying to get him the max 180 days in jail or something like that.
He didn't do anything.
He didn't go in.
He gave a political speech and he bounced you're allowed to go to the capital If the same people Martin Luther King went to the capital and gave and gave a big speech Right, you got them.
You got the Martin Luther King model.
You got the Malcolm X model.
It's all grounded in political speech Yeah, the idea that you go out and you participate in protests when your intentions of exiting your house that they are grounded in the First Amendment you're supposed to get a pass and We understand you went out for political reasons.
You didn't go out for criminal reasons.
Something may have happened, but we generally incorporate the Constitution and the First Amendment into the analysis when it comes to criminality.
It has not happened here.
They're making an example of these guys because of who they're supporting to be president in 2024.
Okay.
Hey man, I'm voting for myself.
What else we got here?
We got Sub goes, yo Myron, bring Crowder on your pod sometime.
He is a closeted FNF fan.
I hope you know that.
Shout out to Steven Crowder, man.
I like Steven Crowder.
Shout out to him.
Yeah, we'd be happy to have him on.
We got, King Colonel goes, Joe, if the glove don't fit, you must acquit.
Is that true?
You guys are the best.
Keep up the great work, Myron Freshmo and Bills.
I appreciate that, King Colonel.
And then we got here, YFNL goes, the return on Flex Webinar with Fresh was fire.
Okay?
Oh, yeah.
Shout out to you guys.
And then we got here, D-City knows, goes, anybody who falsely accused someone of a crime needs to be fined or timed.
Free the Tates, WFNF, WSneeko.
By the way, Candice owned the 304s on such and such podcast.
Must watch.
L, Logan Paul.
Okay.
And then we got here, Cold World.
It is.
Very cold.
And then I think we had some of those.
Super Chats.
Yeah, the Super Chats.
Damn, man.
Yeah, this is wild, bro.
It's literally crazy stuff, man.
Evening from Vermont.
Joe, are you able to speak on whether or not you think the judge is going to be fair on this case?
Or in other words, do you know anything about this judge past and how fairly he has treated people?
Thanks.
So the way that the system works in Romania is different in here.
They have different levels.
The case kind of progresses.
And at each level, once a judge touches it, it changes out the judge.
So it's a new pool.
Somebody is selected to go into the next stage, the next stage, the next stage.
What I can say is that the judges appear to be reasonable and balanced.
They're currently making the right decisions based on the facts.
It's getting better instead of getting worse.
So we're confident that the next judge is going to be just as astute and fair and balanced as the one before him.
Okay.
Let's see here.
Guys, now is your time to get your questions in.
I appreciate the content y'all do.
Tate's were the first ones I seen pop up that helped me find the will to keep pushing when no one is behind you.
FNF were the second to help me see more of what I can be to a woman worth the time.
There you go.
Afro Dragon.
That's from Afro Dragon.
Oh, he goes, Andrew says his case has nothing to do with his webcam business, but a lot of YouTubers are using this to call him a liar because there's an indictment on Reddit that says his case is connected to his past webcam business.
Please clarify this.
That's a great question and I appreciate you bringing up that point.
It's very, very important to understand that we're talking about a two-year time frame here with regard to the current case.
Things that Andrew Tate said or did or participated in three years ago, four years ago, ten years ago are not relevant.
What his enemies are doing is they're regurgitating stuff that he said when he was a little bit more street and And had a bunch of, had far less followers 10, 15 years ago, or even five years ago, right?
He's a changed person, he's a changed man, he's metamorphosized and transitioned and blossomed into a strong, God-fearing, pro-men, pro-health, pro-business man, Since that time.
Was he involved in the webcam business for a time?
Yes.
That's a long time ago.
Does the webcam business have anything to do with the case that he's involved in now?
No, it does not.
Does his speech or his comments from years ago have anything to do with the case right now?
No, it does not.
Why are people incorporating these things into the public narrative?
Because the case is weak, as we've just saw, and because they know that the process is a punishment.
If they could slander him and if they could put these things into the public consciousness and aggravate people and fan the flames on people based on what he said a long time ago, maybe they'll not examine the evidence in front of them now and they'll just say, oh, Andrew Tate's a bad guy because he said this in 1986.
And that's the end of it.
That's what it's designed to do.
It has no relevance whatsoever with what's going on now.
So, and for all the detractors out there, so to be clear, The criminal case against him in Romania is based on the events that went down in 2022.
Well, 2023 they were in jail for a lot of it, but for 2022 basically.
Emma Gabby and Aliona, these girls are the main accusers.
That is what this case, the criminal case in Romania is based upon.
Right.
Not stuff from the PhD course or stuff that he said before or running a webcam business prior.
It is based on this situation now.
That's right.
And it's worthy to note that you have big, gigantic record labels out there who promote this kind of talk with their rappers and their conduct and their artists.
And they make billions of dollars off of it.
Yeah.
But because he says it, it's somehow criminal.
It is absolutely ridiculous.
And it's wrong.
So his prior conduct prior to these course of events happening has nothing to do.
Emma is the key to the city here.
She's the person upon which all things turn.
Also, people forget satire and just jokes as well.
They take it so serious because they want to push the agenda towards the case.
Yeah, because some people are trying to allege that the Romanian charges are based on not just Emma and Aliona, but on other women prior, before, and that this has been going on for years.
That's what they're trying to say.
They're saying the Romanian indictment is based on a longer time span.
With false women.
Matt Shea just put out this recent piece in the BBC about this special.
They had two alleged victims.
They blurred out their faces to make it look like Andrew and Tristan are somehow predatory.
It's directing.
It's a production.
It has nothing to do with the truth.
They took a woman who was probably close to 30 years old and they sat her on a bed with friggin' dolls to make her look like she's 12.
She's not 12, but they did this to convey to the public that these women are somehow helpless victims and Andrew and Tristan are somehow like these monsters when nothing could be further from the truth.
People forget these guys are trying to be entertainers first.
They're not necessarily trying to report the news.
Okay, let's...
What else do we got here?
Okay, fresh.
I have an Instagram with 93k followers with 60 to 70% of them are fake.
How can I fix that?
How can I verify if you can help fix that?
I'll pay the course.
Get a new one, bro.
If you're worried about that as a problem, get a new one.
Yeah.
But just a side note, everyone has fake followers.
Evening...
No, read that one from Vermont.
Anything else?
Okay.
Also, Joe, how can there be this much evidence against the girls when nothing happens to them?
Do you think they will be locked up eventually?
What are the odds of them being locked up?
All this makes me disgusted.
And that's from Hunter.
Thanks, Hunter, for the question.
Look, that's why we have filed...
In the American Court of Law in Florida, it's a first step in the civil process in terms of articulating to the world the falsity.
Most people have had no idea what was going on.
These allegations are so strong that we have a team of lawyers in six months of investigation and months of investigation before that witnesses affidavit statements.
We've made a federal case out of this.
And it's in court right now, and she's being sued.
Does her conduct arise to the level of criminality?
Yes.
Will she be prosecuted in Palm Beach?
There's a substantial likelihood that she will be.
Okay, nice.
And will these...
I was going to ask that next.
Should these, what we're doing in Florida, should this exonerate them fully across the board in terms of the Romanian case?
It should.
And this is one of our masterful moves on the chessboard.
Okay.
I guess from a legal perspective, what would she be charged with?
Because she would have to get...
If she was to be charged...
Would it be a state case?
Would it be a federal case?
Because I'm trying to think how she would...
Maybe defrauding the U.S. I'm trying to think...
Defrauding the U.S. government because she called the U.S. Embassy?
You can just start at the basic state level, right?
Take Andrew and Tristan out of this, right?
Just for a second.
There are five other guys, seven other guys, one of them dead...
Rest in peace.
Yes, rest in peace.
Wow.
Who have been extorted, blackmailed, you name it, it's happened to them.
If those guys line up and say, hey, Palm Beach County, Palm Beach Police Department, wherever the relevant jurisdiction is, this – I'm a victim of these women's crimes, she'll be prosecuted.
Are those guys lining up?
Yes, they are.
Okay.
I hope, man, I hope they do something, bro.
I mean, if they censor money, wire fraud could be federal.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
And that's kind of like a catch-all.
That's one of the easy charges on the Fed side that you can hit somebody with that, false statements, you know.
Okay, we got here Durag Myron.
Yes, we want to see that.
He goes, Yo Myron, this is wild as fuck.
I'm happy there's a platform, only one, that actually exposed the truth.
These women are ruthless.
We men are literally victims just waiting in the line.
Crazy.
Stay safe, brothers.
Yeah, bro.
This is wild, man.
We got City Boys We Up.
Oh, okay.
Shadow MF goes, Romania is a corrupt country.
You can bribe any judge when the Matrix isn't the one attacking you.
America's a country as well.
That's true.
You know, one of the things that we're trying to do is we're overwhelming all the systems with truth.
We are not running from the facts here.
We're pumping the truth out for digestion.
We're making it so palatable and so overwhelming that the only reasonable conclusion has to be that these guys walk and she gets prosecuted.
I think if they see the truth, the Romanian government will say, you know what?
All right.
Here's the truth.
We can let them go fully.
I had a question for you.
Hopefully.
I agree.
Hopefully.
So, in the United States, right, we, you know, just for the audience, you guys know, when you have a witness, they typically have to come back and testify at a trial, right?
Unless they do a deposition, which I doubt they did that here, tape deposition.
In the Romanian case, would she have to go back to Romania and testify in trial?
Yeah, she'll have to testify.
If it reaches a certain point, surely.
And she'll also have to endure my cross-examination here in the civil case.
Right?
We're not gonna...
Well, yeah, she has to take the stand in the civil case.
Oh, yeah, she has to take the stand.
She's a defendant.
Andrew and Tristan are plaintiffs.
She is a defendant.
She's a named defendant in the civil case.
If...
The idea of me having her on the stand...
Oh, you're going to kill her, bro.
Forget it.
I will rip her to shreds.
Body bag.
She has body bag for sure.
She has no chance of survival.
I don't see how she gets on and endures this.
At some point, she's going to have to cop out to the truth.
What they're trying to do is they're trying to make her look like the victim, and I am back and forth with their legal team all the time saying, you need to stop...
Framing this like your client is somehow the victim.
It says defend it next to her name in this case.
Get it through your freaking head.
And just so the audience understands, because you guys might be wondering, well, hold on, she's a defendant.
Why is she taking the stand?
Guys, she has no Fifth Amendment privilege in a civil case.
Nope.
So she has to take the stand.
And Discovery's a whole lot more invasive.
In the civil case.
Oh, yeah.
So you guys have...
Oh, yeah, because you guys have...
Oh, now I see why they don't want you guys to put the evidence out, because through Discovery, you have all their phone records.
Depositions, phone records.
I mean, we're going...
After all of it.
So how much time would she get if she gets convicted?
Depends.
So if she's referred for prosecution, the victims go in and make statements, and it depends if it's felonies or not.
Do we think that her conduct arises to the level of a felony?
Sure.
That'll have to be a decision that the relevant police law enforcement agencies and prosecutorial agencies make, but if it's a felony, it'll be up to a year.
If it's If it's a felony plus whatever, it could be, you know, it all depends on what she goes down on.
But first, there's no criminal case against her right now.
So he's going after her civilly.
So, yeah, so he's suing her.
What are y'all suing her for?
How much?
Right now it's $5 million.
Okay.
Look.
Well, she doesn't have that.
Compared to what they lost?
Yeah, yeah, that's nothing.
I think this is more of a sending a message than, you know.
A lot of people are like, this is Andrew and Tristan Tate.
Why isn't that $5 billion?
And there's a few reasons, right?
It's number one.
We know she doesn't have it.
Hell no.
She never got 1M. Right.
She probably never got 20,000.
She could call one of her white knights.
Yeah.
Number two, we didn't want the court to think that this was strictly about money.
Yeah.
Do they deserve to be compensated for their damages?
Way more, yeah.
Of course.
But this is about the pursuit of truth.
So when we were bouncing around the ideas of money and what should we do, it's got to look, and we were like, what is $5 million?
$5 million is the cost of a Bugatti.
So...
Andrew was like, I think I need a Bugatti out of this at least.
He's slick.
I just took that away from him, but he's slick like that.
And, you know, he deserves to get it.
Yeah, no, and more.
After wasting the embassy's time, the police, everybody, that's like, isn't that federal?
It could be, but they haven't brought a criminal case against her.
I mean, I think if the civil case wins, now there's an argument to pursue criminal charges against her.
First step.
Yeah, they got to get her civilly, which I think, I mean, remember, in the civil court, it's just preponderance of the evidence.
51% versus 49%.
So they have more than enough.
Do you think she's going to go to trial?
I see her settling.
Look, um...
She doesn't want to have to go up against you in the stand.
She has no Fifth Amendment privilege.
She has to testify truthfully.
She's going to be on there on the stand.
You're going to beat her up and you're going to attack her with her character.
The text messages.
You said you guys did discovery, which means you have all of her records.
You probably have videos of her doing stupid shit as well.
And that's all going to come out in court.
Right.
During the trial.
Like, all of that stuff is going to come out.
He's going to use it against her.
Oh, is it not true that you're not a sex worker?
I'm not a sex worker.
Oh, what are you doing here?
Why is there a message here of you accepting this money for doing this sexual activity?
There's a reason why they're trying to seal the evidence.
That's right.
In the alternative...
You don't have to confirm or deny, but I'm assuming that's probably what's in there to some degree.
Yeah.
I think you're smart.
In the alternative, she can just tell the truth.
This is what this is about.
Just tell the truth and the whole thing just stops.
We're the ones having to clear their names.
We're the ones having to sue for damages for them because of what's happened to their lives.
The deprivation of your freedom is serious.
And house arrest is And the inability to fly and to drive and do all the things and generate, they are out on hundreds of millions of dollars.
And they're out on time.
I mean, look at Johnny Depp.
I mean, without his evidence, he would have been screwed.
That's right.
He lost millions of movies and acting scenes because of a lie.
Yeah.
That's right.
The opportunity costs were ridiculous.
We got some more here or no?
Yeah, we definitely can go back to it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't see her.
I mean, dude, there's no way that she can go to...
I mean, what's her legal team strategy?
Are they just trying to delay, delay, delay at this point?
Well, they just want to paint her as a victim.
Right.
That's it.
They want to say that Andrew and Tristan are the bad guys, that her client is one of other victims, and it couldn't be further from the truth.
Andrew and Tristan are innocent.
There's no way under God's green earth that they're going to go down on these cases if they get a fair shake.
And they deserve to have their names cleared.
These are good men, smart businessmen, resourceful people who come from nothing, who became something, and they're being targeted for reasons that have nothing to do with who they are and what they've done.
It's about what they say and what they believe in.
Fair enough.
Fair.
Alright, what else we got here?
We got AfroDragon goes, thanks for clarifying.
Based on what you said, there's a false indictment running around.
The internet slandering Andrew Tate.
Just want to let you know so Tate's name can be cleared up.
Yeah, I did hear about this, that there's different versions of the Romanian indictment.
One that alleges that the case has more extensive than just the past year or two, that they have a multitude and years of evidence and stuff like that.
I don't know if that...
That makes no sense.
Okay.
No.
So the Romanian case is exclusively based upon...
Emma and Aliona pretty much.
It's the past couple years of conduct and look, what I put it past this you know this believe all woman prosecutor and I don't say that in the mean to be offensive.
I say that in the mean to people should understand there are good people and bad people.
Good men and bad men and a good woman and a bad woman.
This is obviously an evil woman.
And would I put it past him to try to circle back and come up and conjure up new allegations against them?
No, I wouldn't put it past them.
But the truth is the truth.
And if the Romanian court, which I know it does, cares about the truth, Andrew and Tristan will walk free.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they've done right by them so far, at least with, you know, getting them off of house arrest and, you know, Releasing them in the first place, house arrest.
I think they're starting to see that, hey man, maybe these women aren't telling the truth here.
Hunter goes, sorry.
Joe, what is the craziest case he worked on ever?
Oh man.
Probably this one, right?
This is right up there.
Yeah, this is up there.
You know, I try not to out previous clients.
Obviously, there's attorney-client stuff, but there's some public knowledge stuff as well.
But this one has to be just due to the scope, the international attention, and just the sheer utter bullcrap of the allegations that just...
These guys are being held in jail for nothing.
If you care about freedom, if you care about justice in any way, shape or form, you should be outraged by this.
It's unjust and it's wrong.
Yeah.
She will have to swallow loads of children for five million.
That's from Shadow MF. Oh, man.
Call her Emma Bucket.
Yeah, Emma Bucket.
Yeah, I mean, that pretty much answers most of my questions, man.
Because, you know, there's obviously the naysayers that are saying, like, no, he said a bunch of other stuff, and there's other witnesses out there, but the Romania case, it seems, is exclusively based upon...
Her allegations.
Yeah, Emma, who basically got Aliona to get into the situation.
Did some of the charges get dropped, from what I understand?
Yeah, some of the charges got dropped.
They dropped this, they put that on it.
They're doing what they can do.
This is the prosecutor in the government.
They're doing what they can do to make the case survive.
They understand that certain charges just had no factual allegations.
The rape charges were dropped, right?
Yeah, of course they were, because rape never happened.
Exactly.
So that kind of jostling of things is going to be a long-term thing until this goes away.
But if you look at the evidence, and I'll post on my Twitter a link to the complaint.
I'll give you guys a link to the complaint.
Maybe you can send it out somehow.
But if you read the complaint...
We'll put it in the description for them.
Appreciate that.
Yeah, let's put it in the description.
Mo, you got it in the Miami Takeover, I think.
Let's throw that complaint in there so guys can read through it themselves if they want.
Just so you know, a complaint is the official document that was filed to kick off the lawsuit.
You'll see she had an OnlyFans.
She was on Seeking Arrangements.
She was on Sugar Daddy This and Seeking That.
All the dating apps.
Yeah, all the dating apps.
Typical Miami girl.
Right, so this is not Little Red Riding on here.
No, not at all.
And not only that, you know, this is a girl, very promiscuous guys, enjoys rough sex, likes to be choked and all this other weird stuff.
She's really big into BDSM. You know, I've done my homework on this chick.
She's definitely not necessarily the best person, right?
And she did all this, right?
Because if she has rough sex with people, well, she might have bruises.
If she has bruises, what could she do?
Oh, I was a victim of XYZ. Yeah.
And then she'll report you.
Sexual deviant.
She'll prosecute you and she'll show up to her arraignment with a butt plug.
Exactly.
Because she gets off on it.
Like, this is a sick individual.
She gets off on putting men in jail for crimes they did not commit.
And then, when confronted with her, you know, inconsistencies, oh, I said that about you?
Wow, I didn't mean it that way.
That was exaggerated.
Lack of accountability.
Don't say it in the first place.
Incredible.
Yeah.
What else do we got here?
This is a...
We got Hunter goes, not sure if you have answered this or not, but what is the time frame for all of this BS being done?
Well, the American case is still in its initial stages.
We're fighting between should it be in federal court, should it be in state court.
We're trying to bring it back to state court right now.
Is state a better venue?
Because I was wondering why you guys went the state route versus federal.
We think it's a better venue.
And it just makes sense because the allegations are local.
But if we have to do it in federal court, we'll do it in federal court.
We have a rhyme, a reason for it, for sure.
We're prepared for both sets of circumstances.
And in terms of the case in Romania, look...
I can't really say.
They have a fantastic legal team in Romania.
They do very good work.
They have an American lawyer on the team too, right?
I forget her name.
Tina?
Yes.
She's on that team.
She's a great lawyer.
We're all on the same team together.
We all interact with that team.
We consult with that team.
But the Romanian team...
It's the only team that can stand up in Romanian court, right?
So we're all lawyers.
We put our heads together.
We put our thinking caps on, but they got to go in there and step in into that ring.
We step into our respective rings depending on where we're admitted.
Yeah.
Okay.
What else?
Anything else?
Okay.
Nick.
This last one, Bills?
Yep.
Question for Joe.
What do you feel about changing an attorney mid-case?
It happens all the time.
It's not an indication of anything.
Think about Andrew and Tristan Tate's legal team like a football team that's getting ready to go to the Super Bowl.
You make trades, you pick up free agents at the trade deadline, you do what you gotta do to solidify your team to guarantee the win at the end of the day, and that's what they've done.
Right.
And there's different sects of the team, guys, right?
You got offense, you got defense, you got special teams, etc.
You can kind of look at it like that, where you got a Romanian team, you got obviously the UK team.
The UK team, are they dealing more with all the schools trying to ban his name and everything else like that?
It's crazy.
Right now...
We have to wait and see what happens with the UK. What's happening with the BBC is troubling.
They are knowingly publishing false inflammation, defamatory statements to the public in an effort to poison the stream of consciousness when it comes to Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate in order to get possibly a conviction or cancellation or whatever it is in the United Kingdom.
People who support Andrew and Tristan in those countries should speak up and take whatever legal action they can on their behalf because it's wrong and it's disgusting and I think there'll eventually be a lawsuit against the BBC and their DNG reporter for the false accusations that they've put into the very public sphere about Andrew and Tristan.
That's good, man.
I mean, there's a reason why public, you know, mainstream media is dying.
It's dead.
You know, yeah.
It's literally, you know, it's on its last leg here because they don't report the truth anymore.
They're more concerned about pushing political agendas of whoever's in office.
You know, that's really what it comes down to.
Okay, I think that's it, Bills?
Yeah, we're done.
Joe, I'll give you the last word, man.
What are your final thoughts?
Thank you so much for coming on the show and clearing up a bunch of things that people had questions on.
Sure, thank you guys both for having me.
The case of Andrew and Tristan Tate is not just about them.
They're sort of the gatekeepers for many men who feel under attack.
If Andrew and Tristan somehow if their situation does not work out the right way Their attackers and the people who are trying to cancel them and incarcerate them will come for everybody else who's behind them.
That's you, and that's me, and that's everybody else who sees the world the way that we do.
We may not agree on everything, but what we do agree on is that men have a right to self-determine, men have a right to be powerful, men have a right to participate in a free marketplace of ideas, speak their mind without going to jail for it.
And we need to protect that.
Men have made this world great.
Men have made this country great.
And I would encourage everybody, especially Tate Detractors, to read the complaint with an open mind and let me know what you think once you get to the end of that complaint.
Wow.
Yeah.
I read through it, guys, and it's crazy.
I mean, you can only really come to one logically sound conclusion.
I mean, they were going through her phone, just a text message that she personally sent.
It's irrefutable.
Man, I would hope that we ever got accused like this.
Y'all defend us, man.
Goddamn!
Yeah, man.
That's crazy.
Yeah, man.
But, Joe, thank you so much for coming, man.
It was a pleasure to speak with you.
Obviously, bringing an expert that knows what's going on because everyone thinks they're, you know, an expert on the internet nowadays.
Oh, I could speak to this, blah, blah, blah, and a lot of them don't know anything.
So, A lot of you Twitter lawyers are stupid.
We brought a real one in.
Guys, we'll be back with some lovey ladies on the show.
Don't forget to like the video, subscribe.
Guys, the complaint is linked below.
Please go ahead and take your time to go ahead and read it.
It was very well written.
It goes through all the facts.
It's Emma's own words, guys.
It's the accuser's own words, and you can't really refute that.
We'll catch you guys on the next one.
Peace!
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