Should Women Go On Girls Trips w/ A Man At Home? Heated Debate!
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So yeah, let's go ahead and introduce the lovely ladies on the panel.
Yeah, ladies, what's the name, age, profession, dating status, and your...
Your body count.
There you go.
So starting with...
Okay.
My name is Diana.
I'm 23.
I'm a social worker.
Okay.
And I don't think I'm going to answer that lesson.
Where are you from originally?
Oh, I'm from Philadelphia.
Okay.
Do you live here now or are you just visiting?
No, I'm just visiting.
Okay.
And you said you're a social worker?
I am.
Okay.
For like kids or adults?
For kids.
Okay, cool.
And then highest education level completed?
I got my bachelor's in criminology.
Okay.
Where'd you get it from?
Albright College.
Okay.
What was that?
It's in Redding, Pennsylvania.
Oh, sorry I heard that.
Yeah, me too.
What's your relationship status?
Married, single?
I am single.
Alright, cool.
What about you?
I'm Karina.
I'm 22 years old.
I'm also from Philly.
Professionally, I'm a marketing assistant at a pharmaceutical company.
And I'm single.
What was the other question?
You said for pharmaceuticals?
Yeah.
Okay.
And did you guys, I'm assuming you guys came together from Philly?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are you guys actually from Philly or are you guys from like Drexel Hills?
No, outside Philly.
Northeast?
Yeah.
The hood?
No Oh no North Best friend All you guys are from Pennsylvania Yes So who's trouble?
Well it's my birthday So I'm in trouble tonight Oh okay Birthday Yeah Okay So I'm assuming all three of you guys Are just here visiting Okay and then you said What's your highest education level completed?
I got a degree in marketing from Westchester.
Relationship status?
I'm single.
And that's a BA, I'm guessing, right?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What about you?
My name is Carly.
I'm from the same place they're from.
How old are you?
Oh, I'm 23 today.
23?
Happy birthday.
Yes, thank you so much.
Thank you.
And you guys are all from Northeast Philadelphia?
Yes.
Okay.
And then what do you do for it?
I work in a hospital and I'm currently in nursing school.
Wait, nurse?
Nurse!
Does someone need me?
Are you like a CNA right now or a philobotomist?
No, not a foot.
CNA? Yeah, sure.
And you're pursuing...
Nursing school, yes.
Thank you.
So you don't have your BA yet?
Not yet.
Not in nursing.
At least.
Do you have a BA in something else?
Child and Family Studies, yes.
So you're getting your second bachelor's right now?
Yes.
So you have a BA in Child and Family Studies, you said?
Yes.
But you're going back to get a...
Okay, relationship status?
Single.
Alright.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Jillian.
Welcome back.
Hi, I'm from Puerto Rico.
How old are you?
I'm 22.
Okay, and you're from PR? Yes, San Juan.
San Juan, okay.
Bless you.
Amen.
I thought you were sneezing, I guess.
San Juan.
San Juan.
What do you do for her?
Well, I'm a model, and I also do OnlyFans.
Oh, shit.
Plug it in.
JillianMarie.xo What's your highest education level completed?
I did two months of assistive veterinarian.
That's about it.
Okay, so high school.
And then what's your relationship status?
Single...
Saying it reluctantly.
Is there somebody out there in the wind or something?
Situationship.
I feel like everybody has a situationship if they're single, you know?
Like what?
So, you just fucking?
Or sex?
No, fucking, but you know, you need attention.
What?
I mean, how long have you been, you know?
Like a month.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so it's not a relationship.
I can't call it a relationship.
Yeah, you're fucking.
So, typically when you're in a situation like that, one party wants to commit while the other one doesn't.
In this situation, who's the party that doesn't want to commit?
We both want to commit.
We're just taking our time.
I feel like you don't want to rush into a relationship, especially nowadays.
Nah, because she's actually trying to claim him after a month, so I think he doesn't want to commit.
Oh, he has my name tattooed, so...
Oh, he's kidding.
That girl!
I mean, it's a God God 3000 that good?
No comment.
How long have y'all known each other?
A month.
No, not dated.
Oh, a month.
We started dating like the first four days that we met each other.
And he tattooed your name on him?
Yeah.
Bro, who's this guy, man?
Did y'all go to the shop together?
To the shop?
Yeah, like y'all went to the tattoo shop together?
I was in Puerto Rico at the time when he did it.
Damn, he missed you.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Stop the show.
So, you guys meet, how'd y'all meet?
At my work.
On OnlyFans?
No, I dance at booby traps sometimes.
Okay, so you do off and you also dance at booby traps.
For the people that are wondering, that is a...
Strip club.
Yes, I was gonna say a place where they throw denominations.
Okay, so you met him there, and then you guys started hanging out, seeing each other, and then for four days you guys decided, hey, let's make this somewhat kind of maybe exclusive?
Yeah, I like him a lot and he treats me nice.
He's a respectful man.
And then you went to Puerto Rico for like a week or something?
Yeah, I was there visiting my mom.
And then you come back and he has your name tattooed on him.
He called me on FaceTime to show me.
Wait, tell me, how much money did he spend the first night when he met you?
Wait, why does it have to be on my money though?
Tell me, what made you like him?
He's funny.
I like funny guys.
How much funny money is?
Is he black?
Is he white?
He's white.
Is he one of them boys?
What do you mean one of them boys?
Is he Caucasian or is he like, you know?
He's a mixture.
He's like half Italian.
How old is he?
24.
Alright.
It's early.
Okay, so I just have so many questions.
Okay, so he gets a tattoo and calls you on FaceTime.
Where'd he get it?
Like on his arm or some shit?
Yeah, on his arm.
And it has your name just written there?
Yeah.
Like my signature.
He told me to write down my signature on a paper.
Is it crossed out by other names?
I hope not.
Did you see it in person?
Yeah!
Oh, I thought it was photoshopped.
No, it wasn't photoshopped.
Yeah, it's not a troll.
He really did it.
Okay.
Damn!
What does a dude do for a living?
I love you, baby.
What does he do for a living?
FBI, open up!
I don't know if he does that.
I don't know what he does for work.
I don't ask those questions.
He has money, man.
Wouldn't it be important, though, to kind of know what your partner's involved in?
I can't see.
I'm blind.
She don't care, man.
She just knows that the money's coming in, so she doesn't care how it comes in.
She don't care.
Wow.
Okay.
That's a first.
Getting a tattoo of a girl four days after meeting her.
Yes, money to take it off.
Lazer stars where you could just burn it off.
Or you can just cover it up, you know?
There's a lot of options.
But I'm hoping he doesn't.
How much money did he throw that night at the club the first time y'all met?
I'm curious.
Just curious.
I didn't keep count, but he just kept hanging.
Was it over 10k?
Nah.
No?
No.
Was it over 5k?
Probably like five.
Around five?
Yeah.
Damn.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
If he's Italian.
Forget about it.
All right.
What about you?
Forget about it.
My name is Valli Latini.
What is it?
Valli?
Valli Latini.
Like the valley.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm 29.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm from Bogota, Colombia.
Okay.
Alright.
Did you go to high school here or back in Colombia?
I went to high school in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Okay.
So I would say, alright, so you're from, family's from Bogota, but you grew up in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
That's right.
Okay.
Because you don't really have an accent.
I grew up in Colombia, actually.
You went to high school in Columbia or here?
So I grew up, I stayed in Columbia until I was 12, and then I immigrated to the United States when I was 12, and I did high school here.
Okay, I'd consider you from Tennessee then.
To me, I look at it like wherever you go to high school, typically that's like your formative years, but that's fine either way.
So we'll put both.
And then what do you do for work?
I'm a musician.
Okay.
What kind of music do you make?
I do dark pop, electronic.
Wait, dark pop?
What is dark pop?
Dark pop is like pop, but like dark.
It's like it's like No, it's a little more sensual sexy Okay, what evolved in everything?
No blood yet.
Maybe sometime.
Because Chastainer, you're a vampire.
Yeah?
Do I look like a vampire to you?
I mean, more or less.
Cool.
No, I'm joking.
Fantastic!
She would probably be wearing that cross.
She would probably burn alive.
So, dark pop, you learn something new every day.
And what other genres?
Electronic.
Okay, EDM? It's more like electronic music.
I don't define my music by any genre.
I think you just gotta...
I mean, EDM stands for electronic dance music.
I guess it is EDM, but when you listen to it, most people wouldn't describe it as EDM. Damn, I need my sunboard, man.
Okay.
Alright, and then, what's your highest education level completed?
Some college.
Alright, some college.
Alright, do you got your associates, or...?
I didn't get my associates, but I just dropped out of school.
Alright, so highest completed is high school and then relationship status?
I'm single.
Cool.
Alright.
So, you want to hit off with the first question?
Ladies, any questions?
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I see a bunch of them already came in, so we'll go ahead and read them, but you wanted to hit the first thing?
Girls, do you have any questions to ask us first before we go into the topic?
Any questions, concerns?
I have a question.
What made you want to start this podcast?
You want to go first?
No, go ahead.
You started it.
No, you started it, man.
Well, I mean, I'm going to give you the condensed version.
I had a fitness business.
I was helping guys get in shape.
And then I realized that guys were asking the same questions over and over about women and how to be attractive.
And I realized, like, you know what?
A lot of guys are dealing with the same issues.
And I realized that it was a lot of times from incompetence and not having their stuff together that they were failing women.
So I was like, you know what?
Let's just start a podcast where we help guys who are becoming better.
And then as a byproduct of becoming better, their dating life is going to be better.
I have a question.
Is this your first book that you wrote?
Yes.
Yes.
Do I like being an author?
Do I like it?
Yeah.
How is it writing it?
It's cool.
It's an interesting title because you could say that you're an author and you actually wrote a book.
But yeah, I mean, it's cool.
I like it.
What are the benefits of reading your book?
What are the benefits?
Oh, shit.
Men or women?
I want to know for everybody.
Just in general.
Should I read your book?
Yeah, like is it a girl book?
Is it a guy book?
Don't worry, Myron.
I got you.
The book covers a lot of things.
It covers how the dating marketplace has changed significantly, how we went from a society where men and women were different and that polarity kind of complemented the two, versus now where feminism has kind of taken hold and changed the way we view each other from a romantic standpoint.
But the problem is that Men and women are not equal, but we live in a society where we tell men and women that they're equal, and it's kind of caused issues with dating.
I'm sure you guys have probably dealt with men that will go on a first date with you and tell you, oh, let's split the check, or guys don't want to be leaders anymore, or guys don't really have their stuff together, and I think this is all a byproduct of feminism.
But I go into a lot more detail in the book, but I talk about the differences between the two genders from feminism and how women have changed significantly over the past years, and guys have to kind of change and adapt their strategy.
I mean, do anyone here think men and women are equal?
I don't think they're equal, but I think we should be treated equally.
In what sense?
Like, in terms of, like, in general, like, you know, if I see you, you see me, and we're living together, do you think we should be treated the same, have the same benefits, same everything?
Benefits is in what pay like pay like just in general and dating are we equal?
Absolutely not I think men are definitely physically stronger than women, you know, so they should do the yard work.
Yeah, they should be taking out Fixing my car changing the oil Okay, well are you okay with making sandwiches and giving them sex whenever he wants?
Sex is crazy.
I'm not sure.
I'd be making really bad sandwiches.
So he's got to stick to his duties, but you don't have to necessarily fulfill yours.
That's right.
That's why I wrote the book.
That's why I wrote the book, guys.
So, tell me this.
If he's doing all this, right, what do you bring to the table?
Like, what do you bring to the household?
What am I bringing to the table?
I'm bringing in emotional support.
Emotional support.
Yes.
Unlimited sex.
A shoulder to cry on.
A cry on.
Lots of scratches.
So, emotional sex.
Okay, what else?
Wait, I think is the man we have, is he making us, do we have to work?
Because I think it's different.
Your responsibility is if you have to work or if you don't have to work.
What do you bring other than, you know, like to table?
I mean, that means we're basically home all day if we want to be.
I mean, keeping the house clean, the kids.
I mean, if he's doing everything, I don't mind like being a housewife.
Yeah, for sure.
Would you quit OnlyFans?
Are you gonna pay me the same?
Yeah, sure.
I'm ready to stop doing OnlyFans.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
My nigga, you heard that right?
But yeah, that's why I wrote the book.
I mean, it's kind of funny that she proved my point.
The reason why is because a lot of women think Not to pick on you or anything, but they feel as though they're entitled to a traditional man that's going to take care of them, provide for them, provision for them, but they don't have to necessarily bring back that feminine nature and bring back their female duties.
Like, well, you should take care of me and everything, but I don't necessarily have to give you sex whenever you want to make a sandwich.
I can pick and choose when I want to be a lady.
So my thing is I teach guys to not tolerate that.
No offense.
No offense taken.
If you're supposed to be a traditional guy at all times and be masculine and take care of your chick, well, she's supposed to be a lady at all times.
That's the only way it's a fair deal.
I just have a question.
How many guys do you know that actually do all that stuff?
There's not a lot of guys that do that.
I mean, 100% you're correct that masculinity is something that is quickly dwindling in the West, but I think a big part of that is because guys actually believe in the lie that men and women are the same.
So I have a point.
I think a lot of men who are actually real provider men.
Yeah.
I think of ourselves like cats, you know, like and like a lot like let's say you have a cute Pomeranian, right?
Yeah.
The owner of the Pomeranian doesn't expect the Pomeranian to do anything just to be cute and pet them, you know, and then He just wants a Pomeranian to be happy and comfortable.
And I feel like that's the role I would play with a very...
His joy would be to make me happy and comfortable and stress-free.
And I feel like a lot of men out there, provider men, would be more than satisfied with that.
So you don't have to necessarily do too much, is what you're saying.
Exactly.
Okay, well, let me ask you this then.
Let's have fun with this, right?
If you're going to go down that road.
Would you be okay with him having multiple cats then?
Depends on the arrangement and the honesty in the relationship because What I've realized is that when girls like are kind of with a guy and he's taking care of her But they don't really offer too much in return That guy more than likely because he has the resources to do so will have multiple I feel like a lot of cats in this case a lot of provider men are definitely like Entitled to that when whenever they provide to you for you.
They're like well I can basically get to do whatever I want You know, and I definitely don't think that's right.
I definitely think, you know...
I mean, if the man is clear, you know, with that, you know, from the start, he shouldn't be like, okay, well, you know, me and you're dating...
Well, as long as the boundaries are clear and you're like, this is what I'm expecting and this is what I expect from you.
And as long as there's some type of agreement, I don't see what the problem is.
But is it a relationship at that point or is it like some weird sugar baby arrangement?
It's not a sugar baby arrangement.
I feel like it's an arrangement because if you're complying to other women being in the relationship then you're not in a relationship sentimentally wise.
You're monetarily wise with that person.
Plus isn't marriage an arrangement anyways?
I mean, yeah, but you get married with a person because you love them.
You know, you don't get in an arrangement with a person because you love them.
You get in an arrangement with somebody because you need something from them.
He needs sex.
You need money.
Oh, I need sex in the family, yeah.
Or he needs something else.
Companionship, support, or just a pretty girl.
Pretty girl to be on the other side.
So you're okay with sharing as long as you're provided for and he tells you up front?
Exactly.
And are you going to be monogamous to him?
Absolutely not.
Oh, wow.
Oh, shit.
Absolutely not.
That's going to be a deal breaker for 99% of men then.
That's fine.
There's the 1%, you know?
I mean, guys typically don't become successful and make that kind of money to take care of you and then have you go ahead and deal with other men.
They're just going to break up with you.
Right.
That is true.
I mean, that sounds great on paper, but men don't become successful a lot of the times to get cheated on by a chick.
And if they do, they'll tolerate it to a degree and then they'll eventually get rid of you.
Even, you know, people like, even like Will Smith, people like that, I guarantee you, he's probably not taking Jaden that serious anymore.
But anyway, anything else?
Before we, for Chris to ask this question, do you have something else?
I have another question for you.
What about you, when you were training these men, what was it about your energy that made these men, what do you think made these men want to come to you for advice?
That's actually a pretty good question.
Well, men are a lot different than women in the regard that for men to listen and take you seriously, they need to feel as though you're an actual capable leader and they can learn from you.
So, you know, your accomplishments speak for themselves and then guys will go ahead and decide if they want to fall in line.
So, with me, right, luckily I got into YouTube when I was already like an adult after I had a career in law enforcement for a while.
So, you know, and then I had been training in the gym, lifetime natural athlete, you know, entrepreneur, all this other stuff.
Guys, I'm able to...
I'm in a position a little bit older now, 33, where I'm able to dispense advice from a wisdom standpoint, and guys really like that.
And I'm able to give a very...
How do I say this?
An unfiltered...
Examination of how the world really works because, you know, we live in this politically correct world nowadays where no one wants to tell men the truth of what it really takes.
You know, I tell guys all the time, you are not a woman that can sell feet pictures for 10k a month on OnlyFans.
You can't do that.
So you have to get out there and work.
But, you know, a lot of people are scared to say stuff like that because that's considered misogynistic or sexist.
But with men, you have to be very honest with them and be competent for them to take you seriously.
So, very fortunate to have a good amount of supporters.
I just have one last question.
Yeah.
Are you single?
Yeah.
I'm nervous, lad.
No, no.
I mean, the way I do it is I have multiple chicks.
How many?
What about you?
Are they all treated equally?
I'm fucking.
Myron, are they all treated equally?
Like if you buy a girl a purse, do you buy the same girl the same purse?
Or what do you do?
Just buy four of everything?
Well, it depends, right?
Like you guys share the same purse.
No, because every girl is different and not all girls want the same thing.
But if she's a main girl, she gets certain privileges that other girls aren't going to get.
So what makes her the main girl from all the girls if they're all offering the same thing?
Magic.
Sorry.
Wait, what?
Well, I mean, it depends.
Every guy has different criteria, right?
Some guys are very strict on look.
Some guys are very strict on her past.
Whatever.
Every guy has different criteria.
But for me, I mean, there's a whole bunch of things.
I mean, I don't know if you want to go into all that.
What's your criteria for a woman?
Yeah, I kind of do.
Wait, who's relaxing?
She asks.
Her?
What are y'all's criteria for a woman that would be worthy to, like, lock down?
Don't be a hoe.
What qualifies you as a hoe?
For example, if I was dating you, I would not let you go on a girls trip to your friends.
Yeah, you're crazy.
It would never last.
Why?
What do you think we're doing on these girls trips?
Because I fuck girls like you who come here in Miami for girls trips.
You don't fuck girls like me.
I don't think so.
Let me ask you this, just so we can get, because I'll get the read on the room, then you can ask your question.
How many of you think it's appropriate for you to go on a girls trip to a foreign location when you have a boyfriend at home?
Raise your hands if you think it's okay.
Everybody needs their break.
Okay, go ahead, ask your question.
They all think it's appropriate.
Also ask, how many guys have we slept with on our trip and we've been here for five days, or four days, or haven't many?
None.
We haven't hooked up with anyone.
We haven't texted anyone.
In my experience, I'm born and raised in a county date.
I'm 35 years old.
I've seen a lot, even to a point where, I shouldn't say this, but I was like 25, and it was like a bachelorette party, and damn, shuts it on camera?
Nah.
Go ahead, man.
You already started.
Alright, so if you're watching, nigga, like your girl isn't faithful.
So, yeah, so...
I fucked the bride, man.
It was like 10 years ago.
They forgot about that already.
I see girls do many things.
They would get a guy's number and then they'd say, hey, listen, I'm going to...
Two years ago, I had a girl.
She left her friends from the club to come stay with me for like three days.
Her sister, actually, and her sister's boyfriend, they left her.
And they flew back up north and she was with me for like two extra days.
So I see it all.
But you know, I'm looking around right now.
It's like, listen, I see red flags.
You got piercings like this.
I mean, honestly.
But that's just my personality.
It fits me.
No, it's fine.
But I love girls like that because they're very spicy.
There's a reason for it.
There's a reason.
That's fine.
I don't care about the reason.
I'm still fucking.
Not me, you.
But girls like that, I see.
So it's like...
I feel like it's appropriate for you to take breaks, you know, to go on a trip with your girls.
I feel like you need to open that door.
If you're with your man all the time, you're going to get worn out and you're going to fight all the time.
You need space to miss somebody.
Why do you need to go?
How about this?
Would you guys go on a trip?
No, hold on.
No, because with women, you got to kind of use analogies.
So let's go into a dream role real fast, right?
Thank you.
Let's say, right...
Me and you are in a relationship hypothetically, right?
And I'm going to go to the nightclub and hang out.
However, at this nightclub, there's going to be women that are more attractive than you.
They're going to be in an abundance.
They're going to be offering me free drinks.
They're going to be bringing me to their section.
They're going to be offering to fly me around and give me money and hook up with me, right?
For nothing more than the fact that I'm there and I'm attractive.
It's what you do in that situation.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I have a response for that.
Hold on, hold on.
As soon as I go into this scenario, I'm going to have all these options of women that are better looking than you, that have more money than you, that have more status than you, that can offer me certain things that you might not be able to offer, right?
Would you genuinely want me to go to this environment that could be destructive to our relationship, yes or no?
Yes.
One at a time, yes or no?
Realistically, having an honest conversation with yourself, do you think, would you feel okay with me going to this location knowing that there's gonna be better looking women that are gonna give me money, that are gonna fly me out, give me free liquor and want to fuck me?
Would you be okay with me going?
So like basic answer?
No.
Okay, hold on.
Yes.
Because it depends on what you do in this situation.
And you're basing our relationship on the fact that you're physically attracted to me, and that's it.
So you're saying that these bitches are...
Sorry.
No, you're fine.
That these girls are more attractive or whatever.
So is that all you want?
Like, we're only together?
I'll give you a chance to explain.
But you're saying you'd be okay with it.
Yeah.
Knowing that.
Okay, what about you?
I'd be okay with that.
You're okay with it.
Interesting.
Yeah, you're going to open the door for a person to fail if they want to fail that decision.
Yeah, please.
That shows me a lot.
Yeah, that's where loyalty comes from.
I'd be definitely okay with it.
A relationship is all about trust, you know?
And if I don't got it like that, then go find better.
Okay.
Let me ask you this.
If you, you know, worked really hard, saved up $200,000 and you bought a Lamborghini, okay?
Vroom, vroom.
Would you feel comfortable parking it in the hood?
Yes or no?
Would I feel comfortable?
Depends if I need to be in the hood, then I would take my chances.
I have insurance.
No, you don't need to be there, but you're parking there anyway.
Would you feel okay with that?
Would I feel okay to park my Lamborghini in the hood?
Yeah.
I mean...
Yes or no question?
No.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, I got insurance.
And if I have money till I get a Lambo, I'll just buy another one.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
You'd be okay with parking your Lambo there?
Yeah, it's very situational.
Why am I there?
If you have no choice, you're gonna...
I gotta go to Philly for something.
My friend lives in Philly, I'm gonna go to my friend's house.
Your answers are very interesting, ladies.
And I know why they're giving these answers, but we'll get into that in a second.
Alright, what about you?
Would you feel comfortable parking your Lambo in the hood?
Well, respectfully, yeah.
I got a Kia and I live in Philly.
I'm already at risk all the time.
I'm already in danger.
You're not safe just because you live in a nice neighborhood.
That doesn't make you safer.
Not really.
If anything, you're more of a target.
This is a very...
This is a really good example of privilege is invisible to those that have it.
So women don't have to work for their value to attract the opposite gender, but men do.
So it's easy for you guys to speak from a privileged position of never really having to build yourself up.
You know, you don't have to worry about building up your looks, building up your status, building up your money, and working really hard to achieve a certain level before the opposite gender recognizes you.
Men, we have to build our value.
Women are giving their value.
So for you guys, you're speaking from a position of privilege where it's like, oh yeah, I got insurance on it.
I'll get another one, blah, blah, blah.
Not knowing how hard it is to get a Lamborghini in the first place.
So in other words, it's not easy for a guy to get a girlfriend.
It's not easy for a man to get a hot girl.
So if he gets her, he's going to be territorial to some degree with that woman.
But for you guys, you don't look at it that way because women don't necessarily earn their value with attracting the opposite gender.
So it's easy for you guys to say, oh, I let them go.
Trust.
Yeah, all this other stuff.
Do it.
Because you don't have any skin in the game.
But once you have skin in the game, I promise you, your mindset would change a lot.
But again, your answers are very indicative of female answers that don't understand the struggle of the male experience.
Well, I have a point to make to you.
Didn't you say that society is backwards and that basically all this shit, like feminism and all this stuff, technically since our society is now women have to stand up more and now they're providing for their men.
Technically now we do have to prove our value because in society now things are kind of more balanced.
But do you guys fail to realize you guys give us our value?
Right, and you guys are the reason why we are the way we are.
And how much work we even put into that value quote-unquote like what are you saying my looks like we came here all dolled up?
Exactly and also like our appearance like taking care of ourselves is expensive.
I understand that, but what I'm trying to explain is that when a woman turns 18 years old, right, and she's attractive, she effectively has the world at her fingertips.
It's up to her how she wants to move with that, right?
Some girls are smart and they get married young to a successful guy and they're able to build a family and, you know, they were able to cash out their chips while they were up and then other women kind of want to play the game and stay in the casino a little bit longer.
And then they wait till they're in their 30s and then they're not able to get the same caliber of guy that they were able to get 10 years prior.
So it's up to the girl to kind of spend her money the way she wants.
But I always kind of liken it to women being trust fund babies and men are self-made millionaires.
So women get their money up front.
Right.
But I would also say 18 me, 18 year old, 18 years old me looks completely different than what I look like now.
Right.
That's kind of how I built myself up over the years.
I wasn't like, oh, 18, beauty queen.
There's biological indicators that just make a woman inherently attractive between 18 and 24.
I know some girls say, well, I'm more hot at 27 because you're looking at other things, but men and women are very different.
What men find beautiful and what men are most attracted to might not necessarily align with what women find attractive.
Does that make sense?
But I think you're talking about physical appearance again, and even my mindset shifting from 18 to But physical appearance is the predominant category.
But that's your opinion.
I wouldn't want to marry a guy who wants to marry an 18 year old.
You know what I mean?
Hold on.
That's not an opinion.
That's a fact.
Men universally prefer women between 18 and 24.
That's disgusting.
I disagree.
Ladies, actually, that was my question of the night.
So, ladies, do you think women over 35 should be taken seriously for a long-term relationship?
Absolutely.
How old are you?
You girls are what?
I'm almost 30 years old.
So, 29 and you're...
22.
23.
22.
23.
So should a guy take it seriously if you're single and then you're 35?
Men do take me seriously.
A high value guy.
A high value fucking man.
I know many high value men who would actually think it's disgusting to date such a girl whose brain is not even developed yet.
Stop the cap!
Okay.
How about you?
I feel like it all has to come with, like, comparison to mindset.
You know, if you feel like you're compatible with a 19-year-old, go ahead, marry her.
But if you feel like you're not compatible, like, mentally-wise, like, goal-wise, or family-oriented-wise, then don't.
Honestly, some girls, okay, yeah, they marry at 19, what, to be separated or divorced at, what, 25, 26?
And now you just, like, lost value because you were already married and divorced.
You know, so it all depends.
I'd argue a woman that got married young and gets divorced later on has more value than a girl that's been single that entire time.
Wait, what makes a girl valuable?
I was saying that comment because I've lived through it that I've seen women marry this person from the ground where they have nothing and then that person gets successful and then they leave her for a younger girl.
Hold on.
Let me ask you all a question, because this is going to really...
These answers you guys are giving is very telling.
So, who do you think has more value in the dating marketplace?
A girl that was married at, let's say, 18 and gets divorced at 25 and was with that guy the whole time, or a girl that's 25 years old that was single those seven years?
So you're saying value is the fact that she's...
Hold on, hold on.
Please answer the question.
I don't view the dating scene as marketplace.
That's where...
Okay, anyway.
It's not a shopping spree.
It is.
We are all here competing to a degree.
That's just how it is.
Because if you want a man, especially a guy that's more attractive, that by definition means you're taking him from another female, which means you're in competition, whether you want to accept it or not.
There's not enough good-looking, attractive men that have their shit together to go around.
That is true.
There's always going to be competition.
So if you have one, by definition, you took him from someone else.
So let's go back to what I was saying.
Who do you think has more value in the dating marketplace, okay?
A 25-year-old woman that was single those 7 years from 18 to 25 or a woman that was married those years and got divorced at 25?
Who do you think is going to be more attractive to the man?
I don't care about your opinion.
Does she have kids or no?
No kids.
We'll start here.
Or work our way around.
I think the single one.
The single one?
Okay.
What about you?
Same.
Single one.
Wow.
The one who's never been with someone.
Yeah.
The one that was single the whole time?
Yes.
What about you?
Single.
What about you?
They're a single girl.
Wow, you guys are all dead wrong.
I've said this before and I'm gonna say it again.
most women don't really know what men want no we don't you guys don't know what you want you guys don't know what you want men are from Mars men are from Venus you guys don't know what you want here's the thing though Like men, right?
This is the thing, right?
If a man doesn't understand what women want, there's a consequence.
You're not attractive.
Girls don't take you seriously.
They don't want to date you.
You're basically involuntary celibate.
Women, on the other hand, they might not understand men, but it doesn't matter because guys are going to come up to them anyway.
Ladies, if I was to ask most guys, they would prefer to be with a girl that was married at one point and got divorced and doesn't have kids versus a girl that was single all those years.
Because we know if she was married all that time, she probably wasn't around being promiscuous.
The likelihood of her being promiscuous goes down.
See, but I thought of it more as if you were...
A girl that's been single for seven years is a huge red flag versus a girl that was married for a prolonged period of time and ended up divorcing the guy.
What about if it's a girl that's been in relationships and is not willing to settle for this person, you know?
Well, knowing the way that modern-day women date, a lot of the times, you know, there'll be flings here, there'll be a relationship here, maybe a one-night-stand here, girls trips here, blah, blah, blah.
In that seven year span, she probably had more interactions with the opposite gender than the woman that was married to the guy.
So, a better candidate that men would preferably pick is probably the woman that was married for seven years that wasn't single and on the market for all that time.
But that's your concern, is that she was sleeping around during those seven years, but that was prior to you.
Yeah, why does that matter?
I mean, and again, we're implying that she was...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Because I wasn't...
Hold on, hold on.
You gotta finish your point.
Yeah, I'm gonna finish my point.
Because you're assuming that she's going around sleeping with people, but like, as someone who is single, the last time I hooked up with a guy was months ago.
Stop the cap.
No, it's true.
No.
Jackie said it backstage.
She said it backstage.
She's not lying.
Yeah, yeah.
So many hours in the week, and then I go to the...
Like, I take care of myself.
When you're young, you want to build yourself up to get these high value men because if I'm taking care of myself, I'll be able to attract somebody who is the same way.
So I'm not going around.
Even in Miami, that wasn't our concern.
We were in the club.
We were hanging out with each other.
You can ask Charlie.
He's back around.
The three of us were just in our own little world, in our own little bubble.
Not with men.
Not talking to guys.
Not trying to fuck someone.
Am I bi?
No.
Okay, so this is a perfect example of solipsism, which means the world kind of revolves around me.
Do you think other women are exercising that discipline that you're exercising?
But you're thinking that women are all the same.
I'm not saying that, but you think most women that are doing the things that we described are not having sex?
Are you able to speak for most women?
Do you have a statistic somewhere that says most women go to the club and fuck someone?
The world operates on generalities, typically.
So what I'm asking you simply is that, do you think most women that live that kind of lifestyle are as disciplined as you?
I don't know.
I can't speak for most women.
Okay.
Well, the answer is no, which is why you're flexing it right now.
How do you know?
That's my question.
How do you know?
Because when a girl, right?
It's just numbers.
If a girl's going out all the time, she's around men all the time, she's partying, she's doing things, blah, blah, blah, the likelihood of her getting into sexual interactions with men goes up significantly based on the interactions that she has with men.
It's just simple numbers.
So I know what you're saying.
Well, I'm disciplined.
I'm not necessarily hooking up with the guys that I meet at the club, blah, blah.
Cool.
That might be you.
Yeah, that's her choice.
Fantastic, but let me tell you this.
Just because you guys don't, doesn't mean most girls that come to Miami aren't.
We're also not speaking for those girls either.
This is us talking.
Yeah, I get that, but you've got to understand that your personal experience might not necessarily be indicative of how things go.
Right, but then their personal experience isn't indicative of ours either.
But you can't compare us just because of them.
But also, I think girls would rather hook up with the same person over and over and over than get new bodies.
Your biggest concern should be the girl going back to the same guy rather than the girl going to other people.
But that does not change the fact that girls go on girls trips and do certain things to open themselves up to other potential mates that might be of higher status or whatever.
Girls like to go to travel, go to different places because they're kind of able to.
We wouldn't have to do that if you guys were doing your job.
Like, there's guys in Philly.
I don't have to go to a new city to find someone to hook up.
Just because I have a relationship, I need to be locked up?
Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies.
When we're having conversations, we're talking about generalities.
Just because you guys might not do something doesn't mean that other women aren't.
Most girls that come to Miami on a girls' trip are coming here to get fucked.
Just because you guys aren't does not necessarily mean that other girls aren't.
I think you're projecting.
Can you please stop interrupting?
But that does not necessarily mean just because you're not doing it doesn't mean that a majority of women aren't coming here to do it.
Yeah.
But how do you know that, is my question.
Where are you getting that from?
It's giving that social media.
Majority of women that are coming to Miami are coming here to get fucked.
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
Is it Miami specifically, you think?
Or is it just girls' trip in general?
Like, what if we were going to...
Typically when girls go on girls' trips to Miami, Las Vegas, Nashville, any of these party cities...
Right?
In a group.
It's a party city.
They're there to party and have a good time.
And sex is a component of that.
Now, just because you guys might not do that doesn't necessarily mean that other girls won't.
Let's say ten girls go on girls trips, right?
In different groups.
Your group might not do it, but the other seven or eight probably will be doing it.
So, as a guy, you're going into a club, how do you know which girl is or isn't?
I mean, just talking to them.
Can you see it in your eyes?
So going back to what you were saying, Chris, sorry to interrupt, is you were looking around the room when you were seeing the red flags, so looking at us three, and what I just told you, you wouldn't have known that by looking at us, would you?
So you're saying that's what it takes, is the conversation?
I'm in a club, right?
And I see you, like, you're three, right?
And I see you, like, a bunch of girls, right?
Talk to the girls.
Like, you know, I've built my fly you up, whatever.
She mentioned that, you know, most girls want to fuck one guy or a high fly you guy.
So it's like, guys will see signs, right?
Say, hey, what's your number?
What's going on?
And guys would hit up every girl, every girl.
Hey, what are you up to?
What are you up to?
What are you up to?
And then whoever bites, like a fisherman.
Like, if I'm throwing a cast, then whoever bites, like, we're fucking.
And, you know, lo and behold, like, I've had to, you know, Double book.
And hey, Chris, where are you?
I had a girl over.
And that's what happens.
But I've worked hard to get to a certain point where I can double book, more or less.
Because there was one point where I was not fucking Miami for at least two years.
So question for you.
Do you think more often than not, women do bite?
So everybody that you meet at the club?
Oh yeah, because at the end of the day, if you're in a club with the girls, and then you don't want to be booed at the club.
Because if I had a section, and I see you, and then I'm trying to Talk to you or what not.
And you're like, nah, yeah, whatever.
Bitch, get out my section.
You know what I'm saying?
So, more or less, you would definitely fall into the guy who's trying to talk to you.
And here's the other thing, too.
I get it.
You guys are saying, well, not every girl that comes to Miami wants to...
Here's the thing.
Let's just use common sense here.
If you're drinking alcohol, you're around your friends.
Maybe there's drugs involved.
You're around guys that have money on status, right?
And these guys are looking to smash.
And you know that, okay, if we don't give it up, they're probably going to kick us out their section or I won't be allowed to have certain experiences.
That happens a lot of times because a lot of guys that come here are on some type of timing.
So if you don't want to do it and you're not interested, you might get kicked out of the section.
So a lot of girls will be like, you know what, man, we're here to have fun, etc.
We're going to make it happen.
So does every group of girls come here just to get smashed?
No.
But I would argue a staggering majority definitely do come here too much.
Be able to have fun without discretion, without being judged or whatever.
And it is what it is.
I mean, just because y'all don't do it doesn't mean that a majority of girls aren't.
So these guys that are at the clubs and they're buying these sections purposely to get women into them, are these those high-value guys that you're talking about?
Like, would a high-value man go to a club just to fill it with, like, 15 bitches that he might...
Fuck, maybe one or two or three.
Some guys might want to come down here on vacation.
What's your definition of a high-value man?
High-value man versus high-value woman.
Because in my head, if I want to date a high-value man, it would not be a guy that I met through a club because he's trying to fill it up with a bunch of girls.
A man that I would consider high-value would not do that.
To have fun with the girls.
That's nothing to do with the place.
Would a high-value man be in the club?
Hell yeah, to fuck bitches.
A high value man would not care about fucking a bunch of bitches.
Well, another thing too, you gotta remember, is that there's no such thing as a high value woman on her own.
A high value woman is deemed high value from being with a high value man.
That's insanity.
It's insanity?
You say a woman who can get stuff on her own.
Finish your sentence, please.
So you're saying a high value woman, that's not a thing.
There's no such thing as a high value woman unless she's attached to a high value man.
Right.
And the reason for that is because all women have value, but not all men have value.
Women are giving their value up front, so therefore a high value woman only exists if she's with a high value guy.
There's a reason why a woman wants to get married and take a man's last name and not the other way around.
Wait, you're very avoidant of the question.
What is a high value woman?
Yeah.
I just told you, a woman that can lock down a high-value man.
What is a high-value man?
Yeah, I need, yeah, description characteristics.
Of what?
It's just a high-value woman is just someone who can lock down a high-value man.
A high-value woman is a woman that is locked down by a high-value man.
So you're telling me that I can't be a high-value woman because I'm single?
Yeah, no.
Not at all.
Not even if that girl has my own business.
Men don't care about a woman's accolades and ability to create resources.
Men don't care about that.
Let's be honest here.
I take care of myself.
I feel like it should matter to a certain point.
Do we operate on should, could, or what is?
You're saying hypotheticals here.
If you have a girl that takes care of her own business, her own education.
Men don't care about that.
So what do men care about?
The things that you guys are conveniently trying to avoid that we're describing.
For example, I just gave you guys the girl that was married, right, from 18 to 25, right, versus the girl that was single from 18 to 25.
The woman that was married during that period of time is going to be more attractive to a majority of men because it was predictable what she was doing in that span of time.
Who knows?
Maybe she was being a hoe on the side and they didn't know.
But on paper, she's more attractive than the woman that was single for seven years.
Because we know how women tend to operate when they're single for a prolonged period of time.
And I look at it as a red flag.
Wait, hold on.
You're pretty and you've been single for seven years.
You weren't able to get a guy to commit to you?
What's wrong with you?
Because a woman's job...
Who hurt you?
Here's the thing.
A man's job is to attain the girl.
The girl's job is to retain the man.
So if a girl can't keep a boyfriend, that's very indicative of her ability to be a good mother, be a good girlfriend, maybe potentially be a good wife.
So if she can't keep a guy, that's a big red flag to me.
So you're saying a woman that's dressed nicely is equal as a woman that's dressed really bad.
So when you see a girl at a club, you see a girl really nicely well-dressed with her jewels on, and then you see another girl dress off...
Let me address her thing before her.
You don't think it's a woman's job to keep the guy?
No.
I think it's an equal thing.
Let me ask you this.
Are there more attractive women?
Or attractive men?
Attractive women.
For sure there's more attractive women than attractive men.
So obviously, if you look at the law of supply and demand, that means that the man is in demand because there's less of him, correct?
So therefore, who has the leverage?
It's not about that though.
See, this is what I mean when I say women lack logic.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
If there are more beautiful women than attractive men...
But why is beauty what you're going after?
I mean, it's the first thing that you see from a person, though.
I mean, it's the first thing that you see from a person.
God fucking damn it.
It has beauty.
Men and women are not the same.
Men value beauty.
Women value competence and confidence and ambition.
We're not the same.
Men don't give a shit about a woman's ability to earn money, her status, her resources.
Men typically don't care about this.
What comes first is her femininity and her beauty and her youth and her chastity.
That's what men care about.
So now that we've figured out what men actually want, Do you think that there's more women that have these traits or more men that have the other traits that I explained?
There's obviously more women that have the traits that I was talking about.
So therefore, there's less men to go around.
Which means the men have the leverage.
So what I'm saying is that if you got a guy that's a winner, it's your job to keep him.
Because there's more beautiful women than there are higher status men that are attractive.
So the man has the leverage.
So it's your job to keep the guy.
That's why I look at a girl, if she's not able to keep a guy, she's effectively a failure.
So a high value man can go into a club and be high value and have a night with his boys and he can be high value but a girl that's just dancing with her friends is not high value just because she's at the club.
A component that men find attractive in women is chastity, okay?
And her image.
A girl going to the club and hanging out and twerking with her friends or doing whatever she does, it'll hurt her image.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry, pause.
Why can't you do that with your girls at home?
I do that at home.
I have dance parties at my house, but sometimes being at home, it's like, you can't stay at home because it'll be...
It'll feel claustrophobic.
And sometimes us girls want to see new music, support our friends.
Sometimes I just want to be called pretty.
No, what if our friends are artists?
Like me as a musician, for example, I have friends who play DJ sets and I just want to support.
Yeah, yeah, but it's not about you though.
Like most girls, like for example, right?
I just want to go out to a club, you know, dance with my girls, you know, boom, boom, boom.
Like why can't you do that shit at home?
Let me tell you, most girls don't go out.
In Hialeah, these girls, they stay at home.
They go in the backyard, and they chill, and they stay at home, and if you notice, they stay together with their man.
But most girls, especially in South Beach, they be in clubs, and they got a man at home.
Why is that?
And I see them just leave the club with club promoters.
They leave with blue tech artists.
It must not be a dream at home, because if they were happy at home, then they would stay at home with their man.
Why isn't their man taking them out?
The thing is, they're happy at home, but the man isn't taking them out because the nigga has to work.
Like, think about it, right?
Come on, man.
He's working.
He's paying your bills and shit.
Oh, baby, can I come?
It's Monday night.
Let's go out to a club.
This nigga's tired, man.
Well, I feel like, you know, if you're dating a high-value man and it's a Monday night, you would be considerate of his schedule.
You know what I mean?
You were trying to say something before.
I want to make sure you get your piece in.
No, no, no, her.
Me?
Yeah, you were saying something about business, accolades, something like that.
I mean, like, because I was saying, you're saying business, like, the value of a woman comes with, you know, the chastity and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Whatever.
So if a girl has her own business, has her own thing going on, you said that it didn't matter.
Why doesn't it matter?
Because if I had a woman that made half a million dollars a year, but she was on OnlyFans or maybe she had a promiscuous past and everything else like that, right?
But she made half a million dollars a year and she had a business versus I got a girl that's at McDonald's that's a virgin.
I'm taking a virgin every single day.
Okay, so you're gonna take that, but...
At the same time...
Hold on, hold on.
No, at the same time, women...
Let that sink in.
Hold on.
Let that sink in.
A woman that's an entrepreneur, making half a million dollars a year, that's on OnlyFans, that might...
Why OnlyFans?
Why is that the only way a woman can make money?
Yeah, why can't you be a business?
What if I own a I have a boutique.
I sell these little t-shirts.
Alright, whatever it is.
A boutique, OnlyFans, it could be sex work, it could be entrepreneurs.
No, no, no.
How am I supposed to take care of myself?
How many women are actually sex workers?
It doesn't matter.
The point I'm trying to make is, you take that girl that's making half a million dollars a year, that's an entrepreneur, that's successful, and then you take a girl working at McDonald's that's 21, that's a virgin.
Most guys are going to opt for the girl that works at McDonald's.
That's insane.
Not most guys, honestly.
Forget the only guys.
Because she's a virgin.
Okay, not most guys because I feel like some guys are gonna be like, oh, I don't want like a broke bitch.
Why?
Because you're about your money.
Because you said earlier, you said, oh, what if a bitch, you know, I'm a boss bitch, I have this going on.
And a guy knows that.
No, no, no, no.
I did not say that sentence.
Well, guys, the same vibe you have, right?
Guys know that shit.
You know what?
She's a boss, bitch.
I'm going to say what I'm going to say just to fuck you.
And then they fuck you and they fucking leave you afterwards.
They pump and dump you.
So what makes you think that I don't want to fuck them and dump them also?
I mean...
I can't have casual sex just like you guys do?
Listen, if we stop fucking, I win.
We're both getting an orgasm, though.
Women can't sport fuck like men can.
I get what you're saying, but women are not built to sport fuck like men can.
You might be able to have casual sex here and there, but you can't do it to the same level as a man without having emotional attachment.
Sex is very emotional for most women, and they have issues with it.
So you can say, oh, well, I can have casual sex, too.
That's fantastic, but you can't do it at the same level as a guy.
I have heard that before.
Okay.
Alright.
So, since women are not built for casual sex, that's why men have an issue with women that have a lot of casual sex, because we know that y'all are not built for it.
You're not.
It goes against your very nature.
You can bring one kid to term per year.
I could bring many kids.
I could bust nuts everywhere, but you can only bring one kid to term per year.
Everywhere.
Men are way more sexually selective than men are.
So when a girl is promiscuous or a slut, guys don't like that.
That's why I'm telling you, if a girl makes half a million dollars a year, and she's super successful, but she has a shady past, a man's gonna go for that 21-year-old that works at McDonald's that's a bum but a virgin.
Because men value purity in women.
Wait, but I just want to say, I think we're stepping into a generation of guys who expect girls to have money and pay for them.
It's not the same anymore.
And do you want those guys?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Did you not say earlier that those guys aren't attractive?
Correct.
Okay then.
So who cares?
The men that you guys want, the guys that you think are super masculine, dominant, attractive, assertive, etc.
Those guys want girls that aren't hoes.
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
I agree.
But you keep saying that, for your analogy, it's either a McDonald's worker who's, what, 21 years old and is a virgin?
But every time you go to the other option, you add in that noting that, like, she sleeps around or she has a shady past.
She may.
She may.
You're right.
It's very hypothetical.
It's definitely red flags, though.
It's red flags, more or less.
So if you're going to make a hypothetical scenario like that, it has to be either a 21-year-old McDonald's worker who's a virgin.
I'm using extremes to demonstrate the point.
But what's the extreme on the other side?
The extreme is to show you that men don't care about a woman's ability to provide security and resources.
That's why I'm using that example.
Is what you're saying?
Out of that scenario?
The scenario I'm giving is to display men's lack of care for a woman's ability to create resources.
So you would choose a girl that's sleeping in her car than a girl that has her own apartment and, you know, her own...
If the girl is...
A man will go ahead and deal with a girl that's absolutely broke if she has a clean past.
My point is you keep saying that the other...
How are you going to disagree with what men want?
Why would you even approach it?
I think it doesn't make sense.
Are you a dude?
Are you a man?
Maybe I was.
It's incredible to me how I'm telling you, I'm telling women what men want, and then they're sitting here telling me like, oh, it shouldn't be that way.
You know what the podcast is for, though, to share our viewpoints.
But your viewpoints are incorrect.
No, but that's what...
But you can't say that.
I mean, yours are correct in your mind, but ours are correct in your mind.
But he asked earlier, like, would you fuck a certain type of guy?
And then you was like, no.
So he knows you better than you know yourself.
Disagree.
But I also...
I think as a girl, if a guy tells you...
I mean, we were kind of talking about this earlier, but I think as a guy, if he says that he slept around with all these women, to me, that's also unattractive.
Yeah, but most girls won't break up with him, though.
Won't break up with him?
I won't even start the relationship to begin with.
You told me you have all these bodies in the past couple of years.
So when you're in a club around...
So wait, hold on.
Do you think a woman that has sex with a bunch of men is the same as a man who has sex with a bunch of women?
Well, you just said in your analogy, you're saying that...
I'm asking you, do you think it's the same?
Say that one more time.
Do you think a woman that has had sex with a lot of men is the equivalent to a man that's had sex with a lot of women?
Yeah.
It's unattractive on both ends.
Yeah, there you go.
That's where this fallacy is coming from.
I wouldn't want a man who slept around with a bunch of bitches the same way you wouldn't want a woman who slept around with a bunch of men.
For you specifically.
To other people, that might not matter.
Because I know people who are like, I don't care about that.
This is incredible.
They really are unaware.
Yeah, I know.
This is wild.
I know.
This is why.
I mean, it all comes from preference.
You do realize that for a man to have sex with a lot of women, he's got to have value, correct?
Yeah.
Okay, but for a woman to have sex with a lot of men?
It takes no skill.
No value?
No skill.
Nah, I do agree.
You can literally go into a club.
Like, come on, man.
It's way easier for us to get laid.
Ladies, ladies, what's your feelings from the conversation?
Let's have a real conversation here.
Think about it.
Let's use logic and common sense.
Why are hoes admonished?
Because it's easy for them to have sex and they don't exercise any discretion.
However, why are men that have sex with a lot of women respected?
Because it's difficult to attract women and have sex with them as a man.
Men have to provide value to be attractive to get the girl.
Women just exist and they get the guy.
So women that exercise sexual temperance are considered high value, or excuse me, are considered valuable to men.
And men that can have sex with a lot of women are considered valuable in society because it's not easy for men to get laid.
You guys can go into a club right now, all of y'all.
And some dude will still talk to you.
If I go into a club and go, I'm going to get arrested.
So it's like, you cannot sit there and conflate female sexuality to male sexuality.
If a man's having sex with a lot of women, he's doing something right by definition.
If a woman's having sex with a bunch of dudes, she's doing something wrong by definition.
Correct.
So, but don't you say that there's more attractive men to women ratio and there's more women than men, period.
No, there's more attractive women to men.
He said women.
More attractive women.
Sorry.
More attractive women to men, but you say that we just pretty much get it all the time, right?
So, technically, we have more options.
Yeah, but those options are fleeting because it's not the men that you want.
Okay.
I mean, how many guys come up to you and talk to you that you reject?
Probably 90% plus?
So therefore, you have more options, but how many real viable options do you have?
Not many.
You're right.
So that's why it's easy for us to go on a girl's trip is because we recognize that value in a guy where I'm like, if you're coming up to me at a club and you're the 17th guy and I'm just going to keep saying, no, I got it.
We're used to turning men down.
Yeah, it's so easy for us to turn someone down if we're just...
Yeah, but...
Where men are seeking.
At some point, you're gonna get hit on enough.
If your girls...
I mean, we can do the math.
If your girl gets hit on 10 times a day via Instagram, out and about, etc.
Yeah, very much.
10 times...
10 times 365.
Do the math.
What is that?
360,000 times a year?
You think just because you're the 11th guy that hit on me that day, I'd be like, am I fine?
I give up!
It's not that, but out of those men, there's going to be a percentage of them that are attractive and if you just do simple math, there's going to be a chance.
It's not about your physical attraction.
I'm not just going to be like, oh yeah, I might keep fucking this guy just because...
You know, it's not that.
It doesn't matter how...
Because you keep everything that I talk about, you keep bringing back to yourself.
Because I'm just thinking from my own personal opinion.
I mean, that's all we can really think of about that.
I can't speak for every single girl here because we might have different personalities.
So I want to be fair to say then that your rebuttals are limited to your own personal experience?
Yeah, because I can only speak onto my experience.
Okay, well, the world doesn't revolve around you.
You're speaking about men in general, too.
Because men are very simple and we think the same.
And women are complicated.
Like, men are very, very simple and easy to understand.
Do you think women are complicated?
And what?
Do you think women are complicated?
Not really.
They pretend to be, but they're not.
I mean, I've been able to predict everything you guys were going to say throughout the course of this conversation.
Well, because you've interviewed 25,000 girls.
Because a lot of women have the same traits that you guys are displaying right now, an inability to have critical thinking skills.
And is that so bad?
An inability to view the world from outside your own two eyes.
A limited experience.
So, question.
Raise your hand if you want to be married.
Hop up high.
Married?
So, four out of five?
So, okay.
So, raise your hand if you're single.
So, why are you single?
I'm still in school and I'd rather just focus on myself.
Okay.
Same reason.
I work a lot.
I haven't met anybody that I would like to be with.
I'm scared of betrayal.
I have too many boyfriends.
Damn!
At least you was honest.
So we have three boss babes.
Too many.
I'm high and have options.
Emotional damage.
And I don't know what she is, but yeah.
Emotional damage.
All right, so just out of curiosity, you guys said that you're focusing on your career and school and stuff like that.
Do you guys think you're more attractive now or when you're done with your career and school and older?
Does that change?
I don't know what I'll be like.
I'll never be done with my career.
No, no, but do you think you're more attractive right now or in two to three years when you're done with your career and making money?
I don't think I've reached my peak yet.
I don't think so either.
Wait, you're what, 23?
23, yes.
You're at your peak right now.
Yeah, you are.
To you, but not to me.
I feel like I haven't reached my peak.
You guys, boys, might feel differently.
That's fine.
How about this?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that if you want to attract a man, you should know what men want, typically?
Yeah.
Sure, yes.
Okay, so like, for example, I want to play video games, and I just want to eat Cheetos and chill, right?
I don't want to fucking go to work and do all this shit.
Is that high value, though?
What is your...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Notice, if I want to go ahead and be attractive to women, I have to play the game about what women find attractive, right?
Yeah, you do.
Playing Cheetos and eating Cheetos and playing video games all day and whacking off, that's not necessarily attractive.
So I have to realign the way I do things if I want to be attractive to the opposite gender.
But you guys are saying it as if I said I want to be married right now.
So when I want to be married, I will focus on what I need to do to attract a man.
But as of right now, because that's not my goal, I don't care what attracts a man.
By that time, you're like, you're so old, man.
Don't care.
I guarantee you I'll still find someone.
Olders in two years.
Don't know, but I guarantee you.
You won't find a guy that you want, actually.
Because, for example, right now you're 23, you know...
You're hot, you know, more or less.
So if you was to find a guy, you have all the leverage right now at 23.
Because in his head, he's thinking like, oh shit, she's 23, so I have to have time to really work with her.
But a lot of you girls who are over 30, they're a pain in that to deal with.
So if I'm doing something right now to attract a man...
Hold on.
I had a point where I was going.
I just find it incredible that men have to understand women and do things to become attractive to women, but women are not willing to do what's required to be attractive to men.
It's like, I'm gonna date on my timeline, which is cool.
You could date on your timeline, but just understand your first choice might not want you back in return.
Can I ask you a question?
What is required for you, for a woman to be attractive?
So you're saying we're not doing what we should be to attract a man.
What is that?
What do you think I should be doing on my day to day?
Not going to work as much as I do?
I'm asking you.
I'm not saying that, but what I am saying is that women tend to prioritize things that aren't necessarily important to men.
So what should I not prioritize in my life?
Like, I just told you everything about me that you know.
Your education.
I should not be prioritizing my education?
Your education and your education, your income, etc.
These are not things that men typically care about.
So what am I supposed to take care of myself?
What are we supposed to do if you leave us?
How am I supposed to take care of myself?
If men leave you?
Yeah, like, what are we supposed to do then?
If we have no education?
Are you aware that women disproportionately initiate most breakups and divorces in America?
Doesn't matter.
What if you leave me?
What am I supposed to do with myself?
Okay, so you said it doesn't matter, but how am I going to be able to get rid of my car?
You want me to be living with my mom, taking the bus, riding a bike?
Men aren't the ones initiating breakups, so realistically speaking, what do you mean it doesn't matter?
That absolutely matters.
But not every relationship has the girl broken up with the man.
Men don't leave, but they will definitely sheet before they leave.
Women initiate 80% plus of breakups and divorces.
That's fine, but what about the 20%?
What am I supposed to do with myself?
What if I'm a part of that 20% where I didn't initiate the breakup?
What am I supposed to do with myself if I did not build myself?
He's going to say that it's your fault that he broke up with you or something.
Yeah, that's your problem.
If a guy breaks up with you, you fucked up, to be honest.
Men rarely break up with girls.
So you have a very narrow mindset.
Hold on.
It's not a narrow mindset.
It's looking at the numbers.
Figuring it out.
If women are disproportionately ending relationships and marriages, etc., then that means that women have some kind of issue.
It's not men ending it, it's women ending it.
Well, maybe women don't really care about relationship nowadays.
Maybe women want to thrive in their own way.
For at least a little while.
I don't think I want to be thriving on my own way, but I would rather build myself up so that I can pay rent, so that I can keep working.
Yeah, that's fine.
I'm sorry, just going back on what you were saying, you think that I should live with my parents until I find my high value man to pay for my wife?
Men will find that more attractive, yeah.
To live with my parents at 23?
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
You guys are clueless.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Hold on, just one second.
You're saying that that might be more attractive to a man, but I could not, I love my parents to death, but I could not, as a 23-year-old, live with my parents.
Yeah.
I have such a rigid schedule.
I stick to a certain diet.
I like to shop where I shop.
I have my own schedule that doesn't match with my parents.
So I live pretty far away from...
I mean, 45 minutes is not super far, but I like my distance.
It makes me feel more dull.
It forces me to grow up, to build myself up.
I would rather live on my own, but in order for me to do that, I have to build myself up.
I have to work as much as I work.
Men don't care about these things, though.
But how many men are going to take care of themselves?
I get it that you're saying I have to build myself up and all this other stuff, but men don't care about that.
Maybe we don't care what men think.
No, no, it's not that.
If you want to lock one down, you should care what they think.
Maybe I don't want to lock one down.
Maybe I just want to thrive in my own.
Maybe the streets are not so bad after all.
If you're not concerned with what men want, then just be content with the fact that you're not going to be able to lock a guy down.
And that's totally fine.
Because not all about life is relationships and sex.
Maybe there's some conversation.
You're 29.
I'm not worried.
You should be worried, is what I'm saying.
Well, but I'm not, because that's not all that matters to me.
Because I have other goals besides getting dick and being married and having a family.
Well, we know...
Self-actualization.
...that women typically are fulfilled through relationships with a man and a family, not through career and accomplishments.
Sometimes self-actualization is more fulfilling than having a family.
There's other ways to leave a legacy in the world without having children or a husband.
How would you leave that legacy, then?
Through beautiful...
Music?
Music.
Yeah, music.
People get inspired by music.
Whatever...
Art, like the community that you build around you, like the people that you can reach and the lives that you can change.
It's not all about sex or family or marriage in the society anymore.
That might be for you, but I would argue most women would get most of their fulfillment from children in a family, not career and accomplishment.
I understand that and I respect those women.
That's the majority.
But again, you say society is changing now and a lot of women now don't really care about that stuff now.
And they're single?
Yeah, social norms don't adhere to biological reality.
So, for example, let's be honest here, right?
So, we live in a world where there's police out there, you have the welfare state, you have all these things to take care of you, etc.
So, why do women still want a guy that's taller than them?
Why do women still want a guy that's stronger than them?
Why do they want a guy that's still confident and ambitious and muscular?
Why do they want a guy that's, you know...
It has competence.
Well, it's because in your bird brain, in your hind brain, you still are attracted to these things.
So even though you have all these modern conveniences that take care of security, provisioning, etc., you still want a man to have these things.
So I always say biology overrides social norms.
Yeah, we are animals at the end of the day.
We all gotta get our own significant other at some point or another.
But I'm saying that in this society, it's not a priority for a lot of women.
I'm not talking about me because I'm really like a sentimental person.
So I really want to have somebody that I can share my thoughts and my ideas and my life with.
But some women don't prioritize that and say, I'm just going to be alone for the rest of my life.
Well, those women think they can push their, you know, their age to a certain extent.
Like, for example, you three of me want to be boss mates, right?
Now, all of a sudden, you're 35, and then you're like, you know what?
Now I want a man.
We've had women on this panel that cried.
You know what?
If I was 22, 23, 24, I would take everything, you know, I did backwards just to actually improve to be a better wife, a future wife.
Because at the end of the day, like, You girls are like, you know what?
I'm going to be a boss babe and then look for a man.
You girls should be in training right now to look for a man.
Because a guy sees you and says, alright, cool.
Why should I hire you to be my wife?
Why should I choose you to be my wife?
You're like, fuck, I don't care, you know, fuck that!
I'm in a club where girls trip, you know, three of us out here tripping.
Then he sees you, he's like, you know what?
I'm gonna fuck her, but she has little qualities to be a wife.
I mean, to a certain extent, I will sometimes think about going back and changing some of the things I've done in the past, but those things that I've gone through made me mold myself into the person I am today and actually realize what I'm doing right or what I'm doing wrong.
You know, some women be like, oh, I wish I could go back.
Yeah, but most girls...
But why would you go back?
You already did it.
Yeah, but most girls aren't as young as you right now.
Right now, you're 22, right?
Like, you still...
And, you know, you're attractive, more or less.
But it's one of...
Excuse me?
Yeah, more or less.
But it's one of those things where the more you talk, you know, it's like, I hear you.
I'm like, all right, cool.
I'm talking.
But it's like, you know, it's one of those things where you have to realize, start young.
Like, don't wait till you're 30 and then all of a sudden, you know, like, biology is kicking you in the fucking womb, right?
I mean, not everybody grows in the same pace.
I feel like so.
Listen, if I have a daughter, I'm like, yo, you have to fucking do this shit.
Like, be a wife early.
Like, train for this shit.
I will put her through the Olympics.
Not everybody has that paternal figure, though.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, you know, just my advice to give most women is to do that.
You three want to be boss babes, like, that's cool and everything, but, like, why even go towards that route if guys don't give a fuck, like what he said.
Like, I don't care if they're boss babes.
Alright, let's make this simple for the ladies so they can understand it.
Did you have something before I go into this?
I did, yeah.
Yeah, go ahead, please.
So, like, then why are we starting...
So, your analogy that you used earlier, like, why are we starting at 18?
Like, I'm still...
No matter that I'm legal now, I still have a very girl mindset.
That's when you're just finishing school, everything.
You haven't even tried to be a woman yet, necessarily.
You haven't gone out into the world.
You don't know what it's like yet.
I feel like right now, where I'm at 23, I feel like this is the most...
Obviously, because it is the most grown I've been, but I feel the most grown that I've been.
At 18, my mindset was not marriage, this, that, and the third.
It's, oh my god, I just graduated high school.
Congrats to me.
But now I'm out of college, I'm working.
It's like, okay, now I can look for these things.
Just using your specific analogy, at this age, I think this would be my best age to possibly do what you're saying.
And as an 18-year-old, who are you supposed to be dating?
Guys that are older?
I was using extreme to illustrate a point, but we'll continue.
Am I supposed to be dating people as an 18-year-old?
Are you supposed to be dating somebody that's older?
Because how many high-value guys do you know that are 18 years old?
Seven to ten years above you, yeah.
But all you really know, if you're thinking about 18 years old, that's high school.
All you know is high schoolers.
How am I supposed to go out as an 18-year-old and meet a guy who's, I don't know, 20-something, who's at high value?
That's a black slate, you know what I'm saying?
I used to be a teacher, I taught high school, and the high school girls who are 18 right now, like, both of you girls think the same.
You guys are reading way too much into the 18.
We're doing this to display an extreme example, but the point I'm trying to make here is not necessarily the age, it's that men value innocence.
You understand?
Yeah.
Men are youth and innocence.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, I wouldn't say groom.
I would say coach her to be...
You got to train her to be a good girlfriend.
That's grooming.
What's your definition of innocence?
No bodies.
Not having trauma.
Literally zero bodies.
Like having less bodies, having less trauma.
I mean...
Emotional damage!
If you guys want to call it grooming, you can call it grooming.
But I consider it training because I think for a girl to be the best girlfriend to you, you have to train her to be the best woman that she could be.
Women need leadership.
A woman without instruction is headed for destruction.
So what's the difference between training and grooming, in your opinion, then?
Well, training, there's a purpose at the end, right?
If I told you, hey, you're going to go ahead and compete in this sporting event in six months from now, you would be training every day for that event, correct?
To be at your best for that event, correct?
I think looking at it the same way for a woman.
She needs to train to be her best for that man.
You know, I find it absolutely ludicrous that women are willing to go to a job and train for a job or train at the gym or train for all these other things, institutions that don't necessarily give a fuck about her.
But if I say, hey, you should be training for your man, they look at me like I'm crazy and that's misogynistic.
No.
The man is probably going to be the most important component in your life because that's going to lead you to a family.
That's going to lead you to overall happiness.
That's going to lead you to overall satisfaction.
Women don't derive satisfaction from success and money.
They derive it through family and children.
When two men meet, they shake hands and share, what is your career?
When two women meet, they hug and say, do you have a family?
Do you have kids?
So men and women are not the same.
So I look at it like that's what women should be prioritizing because you have a finite amount of time.
And I'm going to ask you guys this.
Let's say you have a 21-year-old woman and a 21-year-old man.
Both parties make $100,000 per year.
Who has more power in the sexual marketplace or the dating marketplace?
The man or the woman?
The woman.
21 years old.
The woman.
Cool.
25 years old.
Both make $100,000 per year.
Who has more power in the dating marketplace?
The man or the woman?
The woman.
Okay.
What are you shaking?
I have no idea.
I'm going to say the man.
I was going to say the man.
We can think the man at any age.
Well, it's arguable that it could be both, but okay.
30 years old, both of them make $100,000 per year.
Who has more value in the dating marketplace, the man or the woman?
The woman.
You think the man now?
I think man.
Okay, 35 years old, both making $100,000 per year.
Who has more command in the dating marketplace at this point?
The man or the woman?
As long as the woman makes the same amount as a man, she will always have more power than...
Okay, anyway.
So the rest of you think it's the man, right?
Okay, now 40 years old.
40 years old making $100,000 per year both.
Who has more power in the dating game?
The man or the woman?
I'm always gonna stick with the man.
The man, right?
Okay.
As I go up in five-year increments, will the woman ever overtake the man?
I would say no.
No, right?
So wouldn't it be fair to say that you have a finite amount of time to find the best guy that you can?
About a 10-year window.
Based on what we just talked about.
So what's that window?
Between 20 to 30?
Yes.
And you guys just literally agreed with me.
Well, that should be when...
Shout out to Kevin Samuels.
That should be when girls are going to get married.
I literally just proved it just now.
In every scenario, the woman has the leverage in her 20s, and then as you get to 30, the man starts to get the leverage, and it never comes back to the female.
But I think that's fine when we start increasing the age, but you guys, as guys, have to give us that time to build ourselves, is what I'm saying.
Like, you're making it from 18 to 22, but I think we should be focusing on ourselves at that point, and then once we get older...
But this isn't my opinion.
They pulled men from 18 to 60 years old, and they found that men universally regardless of culture...
I'm just saying what I think it should be, is what I'm saying.
Who cares what you think it should be?
I'm telling you what is.
Like, this is...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is a terrible thing that women typically do.
Oh, I don't like these rules.
I'm going to change them.
It should be like this.
Let's do it.
You know what?
How about this?
Y'all should go ahead and date homeless guys that are 5'2".
Go ahead.
That's how it should be.
They should get a chance, too.
Go, do it.
Come on, man.
Go.
Give it a chance.
It sounds like you want to date the homeless woman.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Wait, you said it.
No, no, no, no.
Because I'm literally just using your analogy.
You're saying, oh, it shouldn't be that way.
But by the same accord, I can say, y'all should go ahead and give short guys a chance.
Y'all should give broke guys a chance.
Y'all should give all these guys that aren't necessarily the most attractive a chance.
But you don't, though.
But we do, though.
Not really.
You're single.
Yes.
So I find it incredible how girls don't like the rules and then they think that society should bend to their whim on what they want.
And I'm telling you, you guys would never do that for us.
Would you date a homeless woman?
Men and women aren't the same.
I'm just asking a question.
I don't want you to get frustrated.
Both of y'all can answer.
Would you date a homeless person?
If she's homeless and I'm making money, just be my home.
There's no way.
Why is she homeless?
What's her background?
What's her background?
You know what?
It's rare to meet a woman who's homeless nowadays.
It's rare.
You like that?
No, it's not rare.
Actually, there's a lot of homeless people.
There's a reason why a man that's a king can marry a peasant and turn her into a queen and doesn't work the other way around.
Like, if the girl's attractive and not a whore, like, yeah, that guy will take her in probably.
But it won't work the other way around.
That's my point.
How is she attractive if she's...
I mean, she doesn't have the abilities that...
What?
Huh?
How is a homeless person who doesn't have the ability to take care of herself?
I mean, it is very extreme.
It's very hypothetical.
The point I'm trying to illustrate is that men don't care about women's resources in general.
That's all I'm trying to highlight.
I mean, but why is it extreme when we ask for it, but it's not extreme when you ask if we would date a homeless man?
Because y'all would...
I'm trying to illustrate that her situation was wild because she said, well, it shouldn't be that way that men prefer younger women.
And then I countered with saying, well, it shouldn't be that way that women want shorter guys.
They want taller guys.
So, like, I can't sit around and change the rules on what women want.
Like, so why is it that women think that they could change the rules on what men want?
I don't think we can change the rules.
It's just what we would prefer.
So then why are you saying should?
Because I have an opinion just like everybody else.
Well, it's not going to change, though.
That's fine.
I didn't say, let's change it right now.
I just said what I... It's never going to change.
That's okay.
You're not hearing me.
I'm just saying what I would prefer.
If you're giving hypotheticals, I think she was just trying to give another hypothetical.
A hypothetical that is not based in reality whatsoever.
But going back...
Okay, so forget the should.
You're right.
If you're whole...
Hold on.
Hold on.
It raised a free mind.
Okay.
So your whole niche, right, is that you're trying to teach these guys that are watching your podcast and everything how they should...
Go back to what you were saying.
Your purpose, really, is that you're trying to teach guys how to be these high-value men so that they can...
I need to form my thought here.
That's for the daytime show.
The nighttime show just goes to illustrate how delusional females are.
You guys have done a fantastic job.
I just have one question and I have nothing else to say about it.
Do you guys consider yourself high-value men?
I mean, what do you think?
No, no, no.
I'm asking you.
See, here's the thing.
You don't call yourself that.
It's just how people view you.
If you view me that way, that's one thing.
If you don't, then that's fine.
So answer for each other.
Do you think he is a high-value man and vice versa?
It's fine.
We don't even...
it's how it's the perception it's how the women it's how the women that's a great you're supposed to display the characteristics and it's on the people to assume or not assume that you fit a certain metric Saying that I'm an alpha male, blah blah blah.
No, you don't categorize yourself in that category.
People do it for you based on how they perceive you.
How about it's the way you feel about yourself that matters?
I'm just giving an example.
Wait, so you're not gonna answer the question?
Do you consider yourself high-value?
That's just a simple question.
Do you have those characteristics that you would think...
Once again, like the people, because at the end of the day, if someone views you as high-value, then it's...
Okay, so do most people consider you high-value?
If you had to imagine your characteristics in somebody else...
From what you've heard, do most people consider you?
It's not deflection, it's just a curiosity.
Like, do you find yourself high-valued?
Say yes or no.
That's not on me to answer.
So what you've heard about yourself, do you consider...
Do most people consider you...
It's on them to pick.
But you've heard what people have said about you, so do you consider yourself high-value based off of what other people have said?
It depends on the individual.
Somebody who knows you well, would you think they would consider you a high-value man?
That depends on them.
It depends on who you ask.
Who knows them real good?
I can answer that for you.
It depends on who you ask.
Okay, I'm asking Chris.
Hey, Chris.
Listen, Martin does well, man.
That's all I can say.
So yes.
Does men what?
Does well financially?
I mean, we're kind of diverting from the topic at hand.
You were going to ask the question, and you were saying like, hey, you teach guys how to get their shit together, whatever.
Yeah, that's during the daytime shows.
The nighttime shows, honestly, are to show men that women are fairly delusional with their worldviews.
Yeah.
And you go to sleep peacefully at night thinking that.
I mean, there's been a pattern shown that a lot of women lack critical thinking skills.
I mean, I'm telling you guys things that are objectively true with how men view women and dating and relationships, and you guys, instead of saying, oh, you know what, I can understand that perspective, it's Well, I don't think it should be that way, or I disagree.
And I've been saying things that are objectively fact in general, and you guys disagree with it.
I'm kind of like, okay.
Can I add something?
You say, I agree men and women are not the same.
Yeah.
So, maybe, maybe, some of us may not be completely rational, or not rational, but completely...
Logical or critical thinking, but I think that's been self-explanatory.
I think a lot of men are not very emotionally intelligent.
And that's something that women actually have.
Define emotional intelligence.
You know, like, in tune with people's empathy, you know?
And, for example, like, I think an emotionally intelligent person wouldn't say some offensive stuff to women.
Like, say, like, she's a hole or something.
Honestly, if I'm going to be all the way honest, and it's kind of been proven during the course of this podcast, I think women lack empathy.
I have a question.
Are you insecure at all?
Oh, fantastic.
This is literally like boom, right off the script.
How is stating uncomfortable truths and facts between the two genders insecure?
What?
I don't know what you just asked.
So you asked a question you didn't even...
I asked you if you were insecure.
Okay, that was the end of my question.
No, you're answering a question with another question, though.
Yeah, because I'm trying to get her to think here.
How is...
Well, you know what?
I'll answer your thing in a second here.
Back to you with empathy.
I think women lack empathy and this conversation has kind of proven that throughout the thing.
And why do you think women lack empathy nowadays?
Well, define empathy real fast for me.
Empathy is the ability to feel for other people and, you know, relate to others.
Okay.
So, during, of course, this conversation, I've expressed to you guys the male situation with how we view women, what we want, etc.
And instead of saying, you know what?
That's right.
That makes sense.
You know, I see your perspective.
It's, well, it shouldn't be that way.
I disagree.
I'm a woman and I think men should want that.
That is one of the biggest examples of a lack of empathy.
I think women have sympathy, which means they can feel sorry for you and kind of see that perspective.
But empathy is the ability to put yourself in the shoes of the individual that's talking about a situation.
And what I've realized through this conversation, which a lot of women, is they lack empathy.
They're not able to put themselves in a male perspective and understand the male experience because women live a very different life than men do.
Which is fine.
I'm not knocking that.
But here's the difference between men and women.
Men have to have empathy to understand women to be attractive because if I'm going to take a girl on a date and get laid, I know that I got to smell good, have my shit together, carry a conversation, take her somewhere fairly nice, have my apartment nice and clean when we come back.
I need to make her feel comfortable.
I need to make her feel safe.
So I have to understand women to get them.
But women, on the other hand, just show up.
They don't have to understand men.
Which, during the course of this conversation, has been pretty well proven that a lot of you guys don't necessarily understand men.
So I think women lack empathy.
What you're describing as our lack of empathy is our opinion, which is not always the same as yours.
Just because we have different opinions doesn't mean we're lack of empathetic for you.
If something really bad happened to you, regardless of our different opinions, I would feel sorry.
Emotional damage!
I think that's just an opinion.
That doesn't define empathy to me.
We just illustrated that empathy is the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes and understand their experience.
And during this conversation, it's been proven that you haven't been able to do that.
No, I can understand you and feel you and totally validate your opinion.
But just because we have different opinions doesn't mean that we lack empathy.
It's an objective fact that things that I've said have been pretty factual.
Factual to you.
That's your opinion.
That doesn't mean it's fact.
Do you know the difference between a fact and an opinion?
Absolutely.
Tell me what a fact is.
Fact is something that's proven.
Opinion is something that you think about uniquely.
Alright, so what's an opinion that I've stated?
An opinion that you stated is, for example, that women shouldn't go to the club because that makes them low value, whereas some other man that doesn't have the same background that you have, the same values that you have as a man, may think differently, may think, oh no, it's totally okay for her to have a girls night.
I said that most men, if asked honestly, would not like it if their girl went to the nightclub.
Yeah.
If I lined up 100 dudes and I said, hey, bro, your girl can either stay home with you or go to the nightclub, most guys would elect to have the woman stay at home.
Sure, but I can empathize with you and be like, oh, sure, honey, like, I totally get it that you're feeling insecure about this.
So, okay, so what about that was an opinion?
That was just a fact what I said.
Most men would prefer their girl stay at home.
Is that proven?
Where's the statistics showing me that?
Do I need statistics to tell you that the sky's blue?
I mean, if you're telling me that's a fact...
That most men don't like their women out?
Where's the statistics?
Where's the actual facts?
I need, like, scientific proof.
Do you need a study to tell you 1 plus 1 is 2?
Yeah, because otherwise, mathematics, they're actually, like, scientific.
I mean, can we ask the chat?
I think we should definitely ask the chat.
We got how many?
20,000 plus watching?
Yeah, go ahead and throw up the Rumble chat too, just so they can see, because we're live on everything.
Guys, give us a one in the chat if you prefer your girl to stay at home, or give us a two in the chat if you prefer her to go to the club.
Let's see, because this is incredible here.
Let's see.
I already know what's going to happen, honestly.
We got 20,000 plus guys watching.
Let's see.
A bunch of ones on this side and a bunch of ones on that side.
What's one mean?
And these are meant from all over the world.
This is a biased pool.
I don't see people who are watching you because they admire your opinion.
They admire your number one.
- And most of the time, that think the way that you feel.
Not really, the majority is people that actually enjoy your point of view. - No, but I mean, these people that are watching you, they know what they're coming to watch.
They know your ideas on these things.
They come here because they agree with you.
So asking a biased poll is not exactly scientific method.
It's not a biased poll.
You're actually asking a poll where guys can be honest because men can't tell women the truth because they have frustrating conversations like we're having now where women don't want to accept the truth.
This is not frustrating, it's entertaining.
I'm actually not frustrated at all.
No, we're fine, but guys who aren't getting laid are frustrated.
Are you guys frustrated?
Yes, because they aren't getting laid.
Because they're focusing too much on getting laid.
Why don't they get fulfilled in other activities?
Like scuba diving.
I think I've proven my empathy thing.
Okay, now your question is something about insecurity?
You had something about insecurity?
I just asked if you were insecure.
Did you consider yourself insecure or not?
Okay.
Well, let me ask you this.
Do you think, who's more insecure?
The person who tells you what it really is and doesn't care what you think, or the person that's scared of what you're going to say and doesn't tell you the truth?
Who's more insecure?
The second one.
Okay, I'll say that one more time.
Who do you think is more insecure?
The individual that tells you the truth and doesn't necessarily care what you think, okay?
Or the person that's scared of what you're going to say and lies to you.
Who's more insecure?
The person that lies is more insecure.
Fantastic.
So what have I been doing the entire podcast with y'all?
Lying.
I've been telling the truth.
It's your truth.
There is no my truth.
It's the truth.
But don't you think during the entire podcast there have been moments where we're like, okay, yeah, we do agree with that.
It's just another commentary or something.
There have been moments where...
Give me an example.
We're like, okay, so you said...
I mean, I don't know.
We should have to start taking notes.
I agree with men and women are not equal.
We can agree on that.
That money statistic that she said with five years older and then the increase in money.
Even the attraction.
There have been moments that you said so.
We've been like, okay, I get that.
I wouldn't say that we necessarily lack empathy because we are hearing you out.
But at the same time, we are giving you our opinions.
Like you said, we are coming from a self-view because it is our opinion, but at the same time, we've heard you out, we've heard your general statements and everything, and that's okay and everything, but we still are hearing you out saying, okay, I get that, but for me personally, and that's what you pointed out, we're speaking from a personal perspective, which is okay, but we have heard out the generality as well.
But a general conversation speaking from a personal perspective, by definition, limits you.
Yeah, but I'm saying like we've heard you out and said yeah, I agree and then you know We're here to give an opinion as well.
So this is our opinion, but we have agreed with you Okay, you can give an opinion, but what place is higher opinions or facts?
Well, I didn't say it was less.
I just said we've showed empathy towards what you've said.
We've heard you out.
Every time I stated an objective fact about what men find attractive in women your response was well it shouldn't be Isn't that the point of a conversation?
There's points that we've heard you on and been like, oh, okay, I get that.
And then the whole point of the conversation, like she was just saying, is opinion as well.
Like, oh, but here's our perspective.
But we heard out your generality and said I agree with that.
But opinions are irrelevant in the face of factual data.
Okay, but let's say we all are agreeing on the same thing.
Where is the conversation?
If we're all like, oh, yeah.
That's really just admitted that you're arguing to argue.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
But if we all agree, then there's no conversation.
But if you don't want to hear our opinion, then what do we say?
We do, but what we're saying is, hey, listen, you say one thing, but you do the next thing.
So you said you've had 25,000 women on the show.
About 2,500.
That's a little crazy.
I got my number skewed, my bad.
So you've had all these women on the show, and generally all of us have had similar...
I mean, you kind of even see with this group how you have...
It's a little bit divided.
You see one opinion, you see another.
But generally you're saying that all the women that you've had on the show have had the same idea.
Yes.
So isn't that the purpose?
You're showing your male perspective versus the female.
I mean, am I too far from the mic?
But then you're also saying that we're personalizing things, yet all the women you've had have had the same thing.
So how personalizing is it if we're all saying the same thing?
It proves what I've said before.
Women are naturally solipsistic, narcissistic, and tends to view the world from their own purview only, and are unable, a lot of the times, to put themselves in someone else's shoes, empathy, and understand that the world doesn't necessarily work according to their world perspective.
Is that women or people in general?
I think people in general are just focusing on themselves.
How am I going to get to work?
How am I going to make money?
How am I going to eat today?
How am I going to self-sustain?
It's not women or men.
It's people in general.
But women are far more guilty of being solipsistic than men are.
And the reason for that is because men live a much harder life than women do.
I don't think so because women are...
You're growing up as a woman thinking like, I'm going to have to have kids one day to take care of.
I'm going to have to have...
So you are like...
So you think in 2023 women live a harder life than men do?
No, it's not harder because we both have different goals to reach to be actually valuable to the opposite sex.
You say you have to be successful.
Okay, you have to be successful, but us women, we have to be attractive.
So there's different types of priority as women that we have to take and as you as men have to take.
I would argue being attractive is a lot easier than being successful.
I mean, to a certain extent, but not really because, okay, attractive.
What do you consider attractive?
A girl with big lips.
Okay, let me get filler.
Let me get long hairs.
Let me get extensions.
A girl with a big ass.
Let me get a BBL. An average-looking woman can pull a man three to four points above her, but it's not going to work the other way around.
So in other words, average women have access to top-tier guys, but it's not the other way around.
Are the top-tier guys attracted to these average women?
Or do you think...
Attracted to a relationship?
Or attracted to a white next to a family with them?
There's been times where they even get married.
But what I'm trying to say, though, is that women are able to easily bat three to four leagues above them, but men can't do that.
Can I ask you a question?
Because women date up, men date down.
Okay, so do you think that high-value men, their goal is to also get married, to start a family, to provide for a woman?
Is that something that a high-value man seeks?
I mean, every guy has different wants and needs.
Okay, but women don't?
But now you're speaking personalizing, but...
I think you were saying that you prefer the fact that you said you were, what, with three, four different women?
But Chris, do you think your end goal is to, if you see yourself as a high-value man, do you think your end goal is to have a family, to raise kids with a wife, to provide for them?
Is that the end goal for men, or is that just for women?
Most men don't want to be monogamous.
It's true.
I'm sure.
Honestly, just speaking from experience, but I'm asking you guys because I feel like you couldn't answer my question, but obviously- I just answered it.
No, no.
Hold on.
You couldn't answer our question when we asked if you think you are high value, but I think that you internally do see yourself as that.
So is your end goal to have a family, to provide for them, to make sure they have a high value?
If the girl is like, you know, hey, listen, I'll fuck with you, and then I vet her out.
And once again, I live in Miami, in Brickell.
You know what I'm saying?
So long story short is I know what it takes to live in a certain area.
If I'm dealing with girls and, hey, listen, I'll fuck with you, boom, boom, boom.
I personally have rules.
If she can't follow the rules, then it's like, I can't fuck with her.
If she does follow them.
What are your rules?
I want to know your rules.
Wait, wait, wait.
I want you to answer my question.
She embodies what you want.
She follows those rules.
Let's say you've dated for this amount of time, and she comes up to you, and she goes, you know what, Chris?
I want to tie down.
I don't want you to hook up to other women.
If I have plenty of girls that actually came to me, hey, I want to be a girlfriend.
That's not answering my question.
Stop yawning.
That hurt me.
If this woman embodies everything that you want, do you see yourself settling down with one woman for the rest of your life?
No, because I've worked hard to actually provide a whole lifestyle for who I love.
For example, if I'm dating you, right?
Alright, cool.
Are you happy?
So you were telling me...
Are you happy with me, right?
Am I happy?
If you're providing everything that I could...
Happy, right?
Sure, we're happy.
The house, the food...
The love, the caring, the loyalty, everything.
And then have a whole other girl, right?
That would make me unhappy.
You're hooking on my best friend!
I've been there, done that.
But anyways, what I'm saying is this, hey listen, I've been in, you know, like girls aren't gonna break up with a guy just because he's fucking around with some other girl.
I'm so sorry.
Most girls.
No, no, no.
I'm so sorry.
Girls prefer the loyalty.
Prefer the one...
Yeah, but they're not going to break up with a guy just because of that.
I'm sorry.
Everybody in this room, can we answer that question?
Because I would 1,000% break up with a guy.
All right, ladies.
Raise your hand.
If a guy was taking care of you, right?
He paid for your bills.
He took care of you, right?
You know, like your safety.
He's ripped.
He's fit.
Whatever.
Your ideal man, right?
If he was to fuck a girl, right?
Would you break up with him?
That you wouldn't be my ideal man if you were doing that.
You're stupid!
If you want to fuck somebody else, why are you with me?
I would allow it.
Ladies, a guy can still love you and still bust a nut down the street.
Why?
Why didn't you just do that with me then?
Why do you have to go down the street?
Because, like Fresh said, right?
Damn.
The best pussy?
Y'all are just clueless.
As we continue on with the conversation...
Wait, wait, wait.
Ladies, and then...
Wait, wait, wait.
The best pussy is a new pussy.
I can still love you.
It's my girl, man.
She's the best.
Jay-Z, she with Beyonce, but she ain't going nowhere, man.
You know?
But they have things that tie them down.
Like, they have families they probably have.
Listen, Jay-Z makes more money than her, right?
But at the end of the day, it's like, listen...
Does he?
Yes, he does.
He's a billionaire.
She's like, whatever.
Anyways, long story show, ladies.
Like, I can still love you and still bust a nut down the street and still come home to you and still love you.
I agree.
But you can't do the same.
You can't fuck another...
I disagree.
Once you fuck another guy, it's over.
I also wouldn't want to fuck anybody else.
So raise your hand if you can fuck another guy.
She answered it right there.
She literally just, look, she said, I wouldn't want to fuck another guy.
All right.
There's your answer.
No, no, no.
I disagree.
I wouldn't want to fuck another guy if I truly loved somebody.
Exactly.
I wouldn't have to want to.
Okay.
Now, critical thinking skills.
Do you think a man that loves you still wants to fuck another girl?
Yes.
Yes or no?
Yes.
They probably ponder.
Absolutely.
Think about girls even.
We'll see.
So do they think about it versus do they act on it is different.
If I see a hot guy on the street and I am in a relationship, I'm not going to go talk I'm not going to interact in any way.
But you glance because it's natural.
I'm not going to sit there and stare at him just because I think he's hot.
I'm going to go on my day and never think about him again.
Yeah, but your need to have sex with him is probably very little if you are super attracted to your guy, but men are not the same.
But what about, like, emotional attachment?
Like, if I'm with a guy and he's telling me, like, new pussy is better pussy, like, I'm supposed to be like, alright, I'm so sorry, go ahead, there's some bitches down the street?
Like, that would make me so unhappy.
What about our, like, happiness at the end of the day?
Like, I'm supposed to just be like, alright, you know what?
What if it makes him happy to have multiple women?
Then that's just not my guy.
So your happiness overrides his?
Sorry?
So your happiness overrides his?
I don't think his happiness overrides mine.
I think it's genuinely a balance.
And if a guy thinks that he should be with multiple women, that's fine with me.
Hold on.
Happy king, happy kingdom.
No, it's happy wife, happy life!
That's one of the biggest lies we tell people is that happy wife, happy life.
The reality is there's no such thing as happy wife, happy life because it's very difficult to please women.
Who do you think are easier to please in general, men or women?
You guys, you just said that men, all they need is sex, new pussy.
Dating men is easy.
So therefore, what I've realized is that the best relationships are typically when the man has the leverage and the guy is happy and then the girl is happy as a byproduct of that.
But when it's the other way around and the woman holds all the cards, it doesn't work.
But what makes a guy happy?
Sleeping with other women?
That's what makes sense to me.
That's what I'm asking is why?
Because I don't think I could be with a guy who sleeps with other women.
So does that mean I'm never going to get a high value man?
Probably not.
Because I don't want him to sleep with other women.
That's what comes from the territory.
But you're also talking about traditional relationship values.
You know, there are many types of different relationships.
Traditionally, men that have resources and access to certain situations have always had a multitude of women.
That's how it's been.
Right.
But at the same time...
Should I do the candy store analogy here?
Wait, what is that?
I feel like nowadays, like you said, society has switched around.
And there are many types of different relationships.
It's not just monogamy.
Did you say earlier that biological hardwiring overrides society norms?
I mean, it just depends on evolution.
There's something out there for everybody.
Chad, do you want the candy store analogy?
I think that's the best way to illustrate this so they kind of understand.
But we do have chats to read, though.
We do have chats to read.
Yeah, we have a lot of chats to read.
All right.
Let's go ahead and read them.
Mo?
Okay, so what do we got here?
And Rumble rants and stuff like that.
So guys, from this point forward, we've got 20,000 of y'all watching between YouTube and Rumble, so we're going to go 50 and up, but I'll read these ones that came from before.
Yeah, they want the candy store analogy.
Alright, I'll use it to describe.
I mean, hopefully they understand.
Alright, where we at here?
Alright, three diglets.
Ma'am, next to Chris, can you motorboat Chris' face for a special day?
It's his birthday today.
Happy birthday, bro.
Shout out to IRS for holding these 304s accountable since them ass ninjas they deal with won't.
WFIRST, WMRW, Chris, WMOW, Bill.
Hey guys, do me a favor.
Come on over to YouTube or Rumble.
Let's kill the Twitter, Twitch, and...
Let's kill all those streams.
Facebook.
So come on over to YouTube, guys.
Right now.
Come on over to YouTube.
Or Rumble.
One of the two.
We're gonna kill the other streams.
Facebook killed.
Twitch gone.
Twitch gone.
Twitter gone.
Twitter.
And then Facebook?
Yeah, Facebook's gone, too.
Cool.
Alright, guys.
We're live on YouTube and on Rumble now, so come on over.
Who's up next?
Jacob goes, women flex on each other with their wedding rings, so by that logic alone, you're less valuable compared to any married woman.
Goku says, hey Myron, when you move into the new studio, you should change the theme song.
Torture by the Jacks at least instrumental, the guitar is awesome, has 80s Miami style vibes.
No.
We're gonna keep it what we got.
Waylo goes, Chris, I roasted you a couple weeks ago.
However, you're better on the panel.
WJokes keep working on your speech, though.
Thanks, bro.
Okay, Waylo.
Appreciate that.
Where are Columbia's eyebrows?
You have anything you want to say back to them?
You said you don't have eyebrows.
I hate eyebrows on myself.
They bother me.
I don't like to do anything, so I bleached them.
Fantastic.
And Gath, what's the fuck?
Okay.
That's right.
Here we go.
I was wishing he was on the keys right now for the sound effects.
Facts.
Baller.
We got here, Micelle goes, Bogota looking like Doja Cat with them John Cena eyebrows.
Thank you.
I love her.
Here come the jokes.
Jouette coach, man, Chris, a classic.
Okay.
We got here, Dr.
Evil.
We talking about women, bro.
Shout out Big Mo.
Shout out Discord.
We talking about women, bro.
Yeah, thanks.
Quality, the vampire in Blue's face is blinding me.
You have anything you want to say back to him?
The vampire?
And Blue's face is blinding me?
Well, I don't even know what that means, honestly.
Like, what?
Okay, fair enough.
I think he's trying to say you look like you have a dead soul.
Shmeebles, Chris, story about getting with the bride to be on her hens night.
I've done that, too.
Was in a different state for work and went to a club.
And 25 minutes later in my hotel, even morning after, too.
Goddamn.
Yeah, it's horrible, man.
Yeah.
Weiposeipo, tell these chicas to spend more time in the kitchen, not the clubs.
Clubs equal no value.
Kitchen equal high value.
All right, fair enough.
All right, fair enough.
All right.
All right.
Pride of Southside.
Man, I miss Fresh.
Okay.
DeVorey Darkins goes, the one thing I noticed these women who come onto the show is that they are absolutely ignorant of what men want and how we think.
The things we don't understand are the things we struggle with.
Anybody have anything to say back to that?
But...
Period.
Alright.
Period.
Okay, King.
Pray to whatever God you believe in because America is doomed.
Fair enough.
Meekly goes, there was a young lady on this show in the past that said she was here looking for a good time in MIA. What Myron's saying is fact.
If somebody could find that episode, that would be nice.
FNF. And that's all the time, bro.
When girl's coming on vacation.
My balls was hot, okay?
So I'm going to get Chris' soundboard.
He looks stressed without it.
We got here, Charlie954.
The wonderful ladies on the panel are simply fibbing because they are so thrilled to engage in some delightful whole activities in secrecy.
That's not what this trip is about.
Charlie954.
Period.
So what was the purpose of the trip?
My birthday.
Her birthday.
Cool.
There's just better restaurants and stuff in Miami than there is in Philly.
We just go on trips for each of our birthdays.
We don't do presents.
We get experiences.
It's all about the experience for us.
Experience?
Like what?
We go to new restaurants.
We go to Carbone.
We go to Mila.
Where was the new place that we just went?
Taking pictures.
New outfits.
Doing my hair different.
We're here because we're literally from Philly.
Oh my god.
Nobody wants to stay there.
This is a vacation to us.
There's a beach.
We like a vacation.
You want us to go hang out at Kensington Beach.
Sunshine.
The East Coast is so gloomy.
Yeah, exactly.
Alright, next thing.
Wait, wait, wait.
So if you tell me, right, if you met like a celebrity in a club, right?
You know, it's your birthday.
I come to the penthouse.
You know, I'm not the right person to ask.
I'm very scary.
I have so much anxiety.
That's not even my celebrity.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm not the right person to ask that question.
We were talking about that earlier.
What were we joking about?
We saw Drake.
We'd ask him real ass questions.
Drake!
I wouldn't think to be like, I want to go fuck Drake.
I'd be like, what do you do in your day to day?
Why are you here?
You know what?
You all three come to the penthouse, you know, have a good time.
So fuck them?
Like, I don't care.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Like, he just said.
Like a friendly vibe.
Yeah, friendly vibe.
Drake, if it's Drake.
Drake?
I don't care about it.
If my girls could come with me.
Yeah, sure, sure.
They can come with you, all right?
Yeah.
Honestly, if it's the wrong vibe, I'm not going.
I don't care if you're Drake or the richest man in the world.
How old are you?
Are you 35?
Wait, I do want to know that.
Ladies, if I got kicked out of 109 different bars, am I the problem or the bars?
You're the problem.
I'm the problem?
You're the fucking problem.
Alright, we'll just end it there.
Let's keep going.
Benny, bio, CR, holy, these women are dumb.
Prove the world wrong and name three countries.
Alright, we can go around the table here.
America.
Name three countries.
You can't name Canada, the United States, or Mexico.
We'll start right here and then work our way.
Name three countries.
Go ahead.
I lied to you now, I'm not by name three countries for Benny Boy.
What?
It's a thing that we do a lot on the show.
So name three countries, go ahead.
I don't want to name three countries.
We can't repeat them too?
Oh yeah, you can't use what the person before you said.
Afghanistan.
Hold on, hold on.
We're starting here.
Go ahead, please.
Start.
You kick it off.
I don't want to do it.
What do you mean you don't want to do it?
I don't want to do it.
Like, I don't want to name three countries for Benny Blake.
He called me dumb.
I know, like, this would be me proving him wrong that I'm not dumb, but I don't.
But it's a segment that we run on this all the time, so it's not just...
Can they just do it?
I mean, you're on the podcast as a guest, so...
I understand that.
Just go ahead.
Name three countries.
Yeah, I can't.
Wow.
You really can't?
I just can't.
Alright.
What about you?
Russia, Finland, Argentina.
Cool.
What about you?
Thank you.
I'm gonna go with France.
I'm gonna go with Afghanistan.
And I'm gonna go with...
Let's go with...
What'd you say?
Argentina?
I'm gonna go to Chile.
Chile?
Yeah.
Okay.
These women are delusional check-in.
Blue has a reflective forehead.
Shit.
Alright, we'll read that back.
I'll read it.
Alright, what about you?
Mars, Saturn, and Uranus.
It's three countries, not three planets.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Three countries, go ahead.
I don't know.
I mean, name one.
I don't know.
No idea, papi.
I don't know picky English.
Oh, papi.
Okay, so then...
No picky English.
I mean, name some Spanish countries.
Dígame tres países.
Yeah, can you name three countries, please?
I don't.
I don't know.
Try.
Try.
Two.
Wisconsin.
That's a state.
Wisconsin.
I'm totally doing this on purpose though.
I don't know.
And it goes to show you, a guy is willing to tattoo his name on your arm when you're this fucking dense.
I'm not picking English.
I'm so sorry.
What are you talking about?
I think I'm just like, why would I need to prove my intelligence to many boys CR? I mean, for the chat.
Do we make money off of this chat?
Will you tell us if we name three countries?
We do this every show we ask this question.
So, I mean, just please don't follow the stereotype and fail.
Just name three countries.
I'm part of the stereotype.
I'll probably fail.
Sorry.
Shout out to Wisconsin.
I apologize.
Go ahead.
I just say Stream Valley Latini.
What?
Stream Valley Latini.
What is that?
That's my Spotify.
Alright, look, ladies.
Let me make this perfectly clear.
You're here as a guest, okay?
This is an opportunity for you, not the other way around.
If we ask you a question, please respect the platform and answer the question.
We're simply asking you to name three countries.
Please name three countries.
Do you want three more?
Go ahead.
We'll start here and then we'll work our way back around.
Go ahead.
Fine.
Mexico.
We said you can't name Mexico.
Why?
I said at the beginning, Canada, US, and Mexico can't be named.
How about Italy?
Japan.
And Colombia.
Cool.
Alright, what about you?
Cuba, Peru.
You already said Colombia.
Let me see.
Asia?
Asia.
Facts.
Fantastic.
What's the capital of Asia?
Hey, hey, hey.
I don't know, sushi.
What was that?
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
Alright, and then going back to you, Ms.
Philly.
I'm not a high-value woman, I'm so sorry.
I believe her.
And then Ms.
Philly, can you name three?
Ukraine.
Yep.
Argentina.
Someone named Argentina?
Yeah.
Someone said Argentina.
I don't remember what we all named.
It's fine.
We'll tell you if someone named it.
Is Iceland?
Okay.
I don't think I have a third, to be honest.
I mean, it's like 100.
There's 160 some.
You only got like 150 left.
I'm sorry.
I keep thinking what they're saying.
I mean, it's barely, what, six?
Sex?
No, six out of these four.
All right.
Okay.
That was...
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay.
Florida.
Department of Hoes Insecurities.
These delusional ladies are whack-mearing.
Tig old bitties doesn't understand that girly, innocent, sweet girl is who we want.
She's all about you.
Makes the best wife to accomplish the man.
Hoo-yah, Navy.
Okay.
What did I do?
All right, we're caught up.
We're on the rants.
And then...
Shout out to Simpin Ain't Pimpin' for $500.
Yeah, shout out to you, bro.
I appreciate that.
Thanks for that, my friend.
I appreciate that greatly.
He says, these women are delusional.
Chicken Blue has a reflective forehead and keeps licking her lips.
I digress.
Thanks for all the value y'all consistently bring.
Subscribe and like the FM video.
Do you have anything you want to say back to him?
Absolutely.
It's not reflective.
I just have the glow.
And no eyebrows.
Exactly.
And I'm totally fine with that.
No, it's fine.
I'm not offended.
No, it's fine.
It's saying no hair and it's porous.
She actually does have hair.
They're just blonde.
You can't see them because I bleached them.
But you can see them.
But she actually has eyebrows.
I have eyebrows.
I just choose to not have them.
Or not let them be seen.
You don't want people to know what your emotions are at the moment?
Um...
I just think it's a look.
I mean, that's what she likes.
Doja has, like, wet-ass shit going on.
It's a look, you know?
Before we were reading the chats, we were talking about monogamy, right?
You were talking about monogamy.
You were just telling me that I have no hope Because...
I'm gonna have to end up with some dork that doesn't fuck other bitches but me.
You're so young, but it's like your mindset is fucked up.
No, I just don't want somebody that fucks other girls, period.
That's it.
So what do you guys think?
Do you guys think some of us have hope?
You're also young.
No, she doesn't.
But, like, you four, you know, like, you know, and then you two, more or less.
Like, if you're so young, just as women.
Because, once again...
Why she doesn't, though?
Because of her age?
That's really mean, actually.
Because of her age or her mentality?
Because I feel like mentality can change.
It's both.
Don't you grow every day?
She's agreeing with me!
Why are you defending her and she's agreeing with me?
No, I'm not defending her.
I'm just asking a valid question.
She's 29 and her mindset is...
It's hard to say.
I've dated older women.
That's not older, honey.
30 is not old.
If not, then you're aging yourself.
Okay.
I've dated women who are, you know, 30, 40-plus, you know, hot girls, like Latinas, whatever, and I just, like, they're setting their ways.
And it's like, at the end of the day, your ovaries, you know, have a certain expiration date or whatnot, and guys see that shit, and say, alright, cool.
Can I build a future with a woman who's, like, setting her ways?
I feel like that's an insecure man.
Why?
Because if you can't handle a 30-year-old, then you clearly have some type of insecurity.
And you want a girl that's easily manipulated.
Let me ask you this.
What if you dated a guy that was working in front of 7-Eleven asking for change?
Would you date him?
Depends on if we vibe and if we click and we have the same perspective.
Would you actually date him and take him seriously?
I'm so sorry, baby.
You're not gonna do that.
You know, let's be realistic here.
A 7-Eleven guy?
Yeah, he's panhandling in front of a 7-Eleven.
He's panhandling in front of a 7-Eleven.
If he's a sweet fucking guy and he loves me and we vibe and he has Good relationship to me.
He's homeless.
I would date a man that I really fucking...
Alright, that's your opinion.
What you think.
And that's what you wouldn't do.
Stop the cow!
I wouldn't date a homeless man.
But what if he's not homeless?
But you're going to date a homeless woman.
She's just arguing to argue.
The reality is she wouldn't date him.
Didn't you say earlier that you would reject 95% plus of men that talked to you?
No, I didn't say that.
It was society.
No, no, no.
I asked her, do you reject most men that come up to you?
And she literally said yes.
She said yes.
And I said like over 90%.
And I remember asking her specifically that.
So realistically speaking, that guy's probably going to get rejected too.
Would it be fair for me to call you insecure for wanting to date a guy that has a shit together?
I don't know.
That's your preference, right?
I just think, again, preference is all about...
Preference is all about chemistry.
I mean, in this society, do you have to be self-sufficient as a man?
At the top of the show, you quite literally said you wanted a guy that's traditional that could take care of you and provision for you.
Correct.
Yes or no?
I said most women want.
You did.
And you said it yourself that that's what you want.
As a matter of fact, take it a step further, you said you'd be okay with that guy even having other women if he took care of you.
Totally.
If the vibe is right, but if the guy's a total douche and I don't like him...
The vibe being right is contingent upon him making money and taking care of you.
So let's call a spade a spade.
Yeah, but if I hate the guy and I don't enjoy his company, then I wouldn't date him.
The point I'm trying to make is that you're saying he's insecure for wanting a younger woman, but if I went ahead and said you're insecure for wanting a guy that has his money together, wouldn't that be ridiculous for me to say that's insecure for you to want a guy that makes money?
Well, I've dated all type of men.
Men who have no money and men who have a lot of money.
So, I don't think it has nothing to do with finances at the end of the day.
Sure, would I ideally like a man that has shit together?
I think most women, most people would like to date somebody with their shit together.
See, the difference here is that what he wants is considered discrimination, what you want is considered preferences.
Do you not see the disconnect here?
But what do you want, exactly?
He just said it.
Innocence?
Men typically want younger women, and then you said that's insecure.
But if I turn around and said, you want a guy that makes more money than you, you're insecure, you'd look at me like I'm crazy, because that's just a preference.
But if I said that I want a guy who's younger than me, is that not weird?
I mean...
Well, it would be strange because most women don't want that.
No.
So why...
But you're saying that guys want...
Like, you're making it about finance versus age.
That's not a similar comparison.
Because the two genders...
So here's the thing.
You've got to understand.
Men and women want different things, correct?
Mm-hmm.
So therefore, what men want isn't necessarily what women want, correct?
So I have to get functional equivalents.
But that's not really equivalent, don't you think?
Money?
How much money you make versus age?
Yes.
I want somebody who is self-sufficient.
You're right.
Yes.
But how do you become self-sufficient?
Experience, age, time, right?
Yep.
It takes time to...
The things that make a man attractive take time to acquire.
Yeah.
The things that make a woman attractive don't take time to acquire.
It's but it's like it's so limiting because you're saying that it's my age It's something I can't control versus you can go out and you can make more money You can get your ass up and you can work.
Yeah, but that requires work.
Yeah, you're right you work But I can't change time like I can't be like I'm gonna stop aging because men prefer me younger Oh, no, but didn't we say that before that women have a finite amount of time to find a guy, right?
So what about a woman who's ugly?
So at some point Even a woman that's below average can still get a guy three to four points above her.
It's easier for women to be attractive.
Makeup does wonders.
Slow Wednesdays.
You know, if you're a girl, slow Wednesdays, we still fuck.
Yeah, but you were saying something?
What was that?
That's all I was saying is that you can't say...
I mean, you're trying to make the point that men and women want different things, but I feel like it's not fair to compare the fact that men want somebody that's younger versus women that want somebody that make more money.
Does that make sense?
It's absolutely fair because it's the functional equivalent.
Men value youth, beauty, chastity, right?
Women value success, competence and status.
Stuff that is in your control.
Okay.
Who can make more money?
We can't change our...
But, but, you get your value up front.
With my age?
Like, I have to start again and it all sounds valuable.
Okay.
As soon as a girl turns 18 and she's attractive, she's effectively won the lottery.
She gets a million dollars given to her.
It's up to her how she spends that money.
The man, however, has to earn that million dollars.
From an analogy standpoint.
So at least you get it up front and you're able to spend it the way that you want.
Men have to work to make that money and there's no guarantee they'll get it.
At least as a female, you're guaranteed that upfront lump sum and it's up to you how you want to spend it.
Actually, take it to the candy shop.
This is what I mean when I say women live life on easy mode because you guys get your value up front.
Men have to earn their value.
I just feel like women have different struggles than men.
You know, like, we all struggle differently.
You have to struggle to prove yourself and be successful.
Women have to struggle with different things that most men won't understand.
Yo, what's violent, man?
Look, man, in 2023, the female experience is way easier than the male experience.
That's not even a question.
Name one right or privilege that men have that women don't.
Besides being able to have sex with a bunch of people and not be judged.
Not getting pregnant?
But you choose that, though.
Better salaries?
The reason why men make more is because men deserve to make more a lot of the times.
Women earn less because they deserve less in a lot of situations, but that's a whole other conversation.
Let's have that conversation.
Why do women deserve less?
From a payment standpoint?
Because that's the name of your book, right?
Yeah.
So let's talk about that.
There's a multitude of reasons why women earn less money than money.
So can you name some?
Before we go into that, what was the...
Someone was saying something here about...
Shit.
What, Chris?
What's going on?
No, no, no.
Someone had something here about...
I want to make sure that everyone gets their point before I go into this, because that's all of the topic.
I think we're good.
I don't know.
Less?
Earn less?
Okay.
I said that, yeah.
Well, that's the topic.
Yeah, you said that what...
Okay, something better that...
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Women earn less because they deserve less from a financial standpoint?
Yeah.
But before I go into that, because that's a whole thing, was there something else that someone was trying to say?
I could have sworn I heard a voice here.
Okay.
Yeah, there's a bunch of reasons why women earn less money than men.
A lot of it is choice, not necessarily biology.
You said outside of finance, though, that women generally deserve less?
Yeah, why do women deserve less?
I would like to hear your opinion.
Well, she brought up the finances, and I said women make less because they generally deserve less.
But isn't that the name of your book?
Yes, but there's a bunch of reasons for that title.
But when it comes to why women earn less money than men, there's a very sound logic and reason behind why women earn less than men in general.
And what is one of them?
Wait, sorry.
What?
Keep cashing up.
Simping.
Hey, I love the box, man.
A little more help to support the pod.
He likes my reflective forehead.
Fuck you to my...
Oh, can't say that shit.
Make FNF montage again.
The reason why women earn less money than men is because women typically work less hours, they take more vacation, they go into jobs that don't necessarily pay as much, they're more interested in being involved in social work versus being in STEM, science, technology, engineering, and math.
But that's just a choice that doesn't have anything to do with deserving.
Thank you for proving my point.
But you said we deserve less.
Because they make choices that earn them less.
Outside of earning, sorry, because you're right, women do get paid less, whatever, but outside of finances, you said generally...
But I want to be clear that the reason why women earn less isn't because of their gender.
They earn less because of personal choices.
Sure.
Okay.
Again, outside of finances, you said women generally deserve less.
Why?
Well, if a woman is given everything just because she exists, right?
She's given attention, time, resources, you know, guys hitting her up, etc.
The only way that you're going to stand out as a man is that you can't put her on a pedestal.
You think that's what I thrive off of is attention?
But basically you're saying women deserve more.
I'm not talking about you in particular.
I'm talking about women in general.
I can only speak for myself.
I'm sorry.
Somebody else can chime in.
But based on what you said that women's lives are easier, you're telling me that in society actually women are...
Getting more and deserving of more.
But your book says women deserve less.
So that kind of contradicts a little bit.
And I'm a little confused by your statement where you say, oh, women have an easier.
Yes, they do.
Right.
So isn't that naturally that they're already automatically deserving more?
And if you don't believe me, name one right or privilege that men have that women don't.
I don't disagree with you.
Okay, so then what are you arguing?
I'm just saying that you're saying women deserve less, but then you're saying that women get more.
They do.
So, to me, that doesn't make a lot of sense.
But they don't earn it a lot of the times.
Yeah.
But that means we deserve more, even if we don't have to earn anything.
Because we don't have to work that much.
Okay.
Therefore, we already have that birthright of deserving more.
You know, we were born into privilege.
No, no, no, no.
Leave me out of here.
No, I can't team up against her.
She's a girl, so...
Everyone has their opinions, you know.
But I'm not gonna say...
We definitely said that we were gonna have our own opinions on this show.
We all have our own opinions.
So, do you four...
Agree with her.
There was a lot.
Don't be pinning anybody against nobody.
I don't mind if people disagree with me.
This person may point that we're all different and we all think differently.
Yeah, but women have the privilege of being dumb and no one really cares.
I disagree.
Women are not dumb.
You just literally made a dumb statement just now.
More women are in college than men right now.
And you will not have an issue finding a date even though you've proven throughout the course of this podcast.
Maybe I don't want to find a date.
Maybe I'm fulfilled with my self-actualization.
That's my point.
You have the privilege of being able to not be competent but still find a mate versus men don't have that privilege.
That's my point.
Okay, so if I have that privilege, I'm born into that privilege just because I have a vagina, you know?
Men will overlook your lack of knowledge and intelligence because you're a female.
So therefore I deserve more just because I'm a female.
No, you deserve less.
No, I deserve more because women are dumb, according to you, but men still give us whatever we want.
Yeah, but who are you going to respect more?
The guy that you have to earn affection from or the guy that just gives it to you?
Um, the guy who just gives it to me.
Okay.
Fantastic.
I don't agree with your point because I respect a guy that takes their time to actually show their true colors because if you're gonna be that easy with me, so you're probably treating me like you treat everybody else.
Someone's thinking.
I mean, but she's actually claimed the guy who actually had her name Ted on.
No, but why are you pinning that against me when I'm actually making a valid point?
You know, I didn't put a girl to the side and be like, talk to my name.
No, but what I'm saying is, you're saying one thing, but then you're doing the next thing.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, girls are like, yeah, yeah.
And all of a sudden, I see the same girls.
I gave her three months, she'll be done with it.
Yeah, yeah, three months.
I mean, but I'm not saying I'm going to break up with her.
I'm saying I appreciate it when a guy takes their time.
I know you do.
I give it three hours.
That's better than most.
Girls appreciate the nice gesture, but for how long though?
How long were you dating?
How long God tells our time is up.
As soon as he got that tattoo of her, that dude was on borrowed time, bro.
No, he's not!
When he got her name tatted on his arm, she dried up.
Then you were like, oh shit.
Actually, no.
That shit went...
Stop the cow.
Alright.
Someone else had something?
I don't think so.
Oh, okay.
Okay, so we'll go back to this situation here.
Where we at here?
Rumble their hands?
Okay.
Myron, I gotta know.
Did Tim Pool smoke you in poker?
Yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
I don't know how to play poker, man.
And then Magic Mike goes, these conversations consistently prove an epiphany I had about the truth.
Not your, my, or someone else's truth.
If you punish the truth, you're asking to be lied to.
Uncomfortable truth, MM. Shout out to you, bro.
Yeah, I mean, I think...
You know, some of these concepts haven't been explained to women, which is why they have an issue with them.
Like, for example, you said you want a high-value guy, but you wanted to be monogamous to you.
Well, that's just not realistic.
Ever?
Never, ever?
Like, you're just genuinely telling me I have no hope.
I'm not saying never, ever.
I do agree with that.
What I am saying is that men don't bust their ass to become successful and make money to only have sex with you.
Yeah, I mean, if you want to date a guy who's average, you know?
You know what?
He's average.
He makes, like, what?
50k a year?
It's simple.
We talked about supply and demand.
If there's not enough of these guys to go around and all the women want them, do you really think he's only going to hook up with you?
It's just not something I would budge on.
It doesn't matter.
Then you're gone.
Then that's your friend here.
Then it's her.
That's fine.
I mean, if you want monogamy, were you willing to drop your standards a bit then?
Yeah, just do it.
Drop my standards?
Yeah.
That is my standards.
Is that I wouldn't want a guy who's hooking up with other people.
That's what I'm saying.
So would you be okay with getting a loyal guy?
Would I drop that specific?
No.
Like, I would...
It would have to be...
Mind, uh...
You're saying that it's not super...
Like, you just said it yourself that it's not unheard of or impossible.
It's just...
It's rare.
But it's possible.
If I told you to jump out of a plane and you got a less than 1% chance that your parachute is going to deploy, would you jump out of the plane?
You're saying that my chance of finding a guy who is loyal to me and me only...
And a high earner.
High earner?
What's high earner?
He's making like...
Six figures a month?
What's your high earner?
If he's making six figures a month, he's definitely gonna fuck other girls.
I would want it to be financially comfortable.
So it can be a little over six figures a year.
Pump the calculator!
It doesn't have to be a millionaire billionaire, but it's like...
We're gonna pull up a calculator for you.
We actually went ahead and did the work for you.
So we're gonna find out your chances of finding this dream guy.
On our show right now.
We got a...
We got a build-a-man calculator.
Well, according to you, I have no chances.
I know.
No, it's very slim.
No chance.
That's what you got.
That's what you said.
You know what?
I'm not too offended.
You got a couple things going against you.
I know.
That's why you go sport.
That's fine.
You can have your opinion.
printing it all on mine.
Okay.
Give me a second.
You guys don't have it?
Not yet.
No, it's top right.
Chris has it saved.
Yeah, it's saved.
Top right.
The link is saved.
The new one?
Yeah.
The final new one is fine.
Yeah, we got a calculator here.
Basically, we're going to put in the guy's height, income.
Well, actually, you know what?
How much money has he got to make a year for you, bare minimum?
I'd say 200.
All right.
Height.
How much money?
200k.
200.
Height?
I like this question.
Wait, is this a new one?
Build a man!
Is this a website?
I like this.
What's this link?
Can I use it?
200k.
How much?
Sorry, height?
6 feet.
Okay.
Race?
Black?
I don't really have a preference.
No preference?
Would you date Asian?
Asian?
Maybe not.
Okay, so maybe I might have a preference.
Okay, so not Asian.
Alright, well, Indian?
No.
Okay, so either black or white or Hispanic?
Sure.
Okay.
Education level?
I would rather, yeah, more like higher education, so college.
What's the bare minimum you would accept?
Master's?
College, like a BA, yeah.
A BA? Bachelor's, yeah.
Okay.
Do you care if he rents or owns?
I would prefer...
I mean, with that salary, I prefer own.
Okay.
What's the bare minimum age range?
Minimum.
Minimum to oldest.
Oldest would probably be...
I don't know.
Minimum would have to be somebody who's maybe like 25, 24.
25 to what?
25 to 35.
Okay.
Alright, so here it is right here.
Can you enlarge the screen on our end, guys?
Okay, so we're going to go ahead.
So age, guys, is 22 to 35.
Okay.
22 to 35.
Oh, 22.
No, I'm sorry, 25 to 35.
I'm sorry, 25 to 35.
Minimum height is 6 feet.
Races check off white, black, and Hispanic.
Wait, where do you get all this data from?
I'm going to tell you here in a second.
And then education is bare minimum bachelor's degree.
And then income is $200,000.
And then, do you care if he's married or not?
No, yeah.
Okay, so exclude married men.
And then, do you care if he's obese?
Yeah.
He can't be obese.
No.
Okay, so exclude both.
So, just before we get into this, this comes from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey and the U.S. Census Bureau.
Does it come too far?
Make it 150.
Okay, 150.
And ladies, this is the most accurate assessment of men in the United States because it's based off of census data and the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.
This is fun.
So this is going to give you the most accurate assessment of men in states.
So let's go ahead and see how common this guy is.
He's going to be like, two guys.
Where's the Addy of him?
Alright, so she scored a perfect...
So, less than 1% of men meet this criteria.
So, realistically speaking...
If you find this guy, do you think he's really going to be monogamous to just you?
Now that you know the raw numbers?
Yeah.
Well, can you do this the other way around?
Like, well, whatever.
Sure, yeah.
Okay, if we did it the other way around, let me guess.
You would name your age and how much money you make and stuff?
Yeah, like, if you ask, like, a guy to do this for girls, like, is that possible?
Like, you two guys have, like, a...
Well, I guess you don't care how much money she makes, apparently.
She could be homeless.
And a guy that makes that kind of money...
Well, here's the thing.
A guy that makes that kind of money is going to care even less about how much money you make.
Okay.
But I feel like I wouldn't be able, but again, now I'm going back to myself, but I feel like that's forbidden here.
I feel like I would have to work no matter what the guy makes.
Does that make sense?
For my own sanity, just to be able to do what I like, what I care about, I would rather have my job than he has his.
But you still want him to be the predominant breadwinner and pay the majority of the bills, correct?
But I also wouldn't mind in that situation to come home and cook and clean and take care of the kids.
If he provides more than I do, necessarily financially, I'd be able to compensate in other ways.
Okay, so you still expect him to be the predominant breadwinner.
You still want to be in the workforce, but you're not the predominant breadwinner.
Yeah.
Okay, so...
So you're telling me that if I want that, that's impossible?
I only have a...
No, I'm not saying that.
It just proves my point that the more money a man makes, the less he cares about how much money you make, because men understand fundamentally that they're going to be expected to be the primary breadwinner.
Yeah.
But it's not about how much money...
Like, you're saying...
Hold on.
I mean, his money is our money, and then your money is your money.
So it would be separate?
No.
Is that what you're saying?
No.
No, he would still be the one providing for everything.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
The reason why men don't care about how much money a girl makes is because you said, oh, well, let's reverse it.
Let's put my stats in.
Well, it's irrelevant because men don't care about your money.
Right.
I said that.
I said, never mind.
I backtracked.
I was like, never mind because they could be homeless.
The things that you're mentioning, they're all masculine traits.
I make money.
I'm a go-getter.
Blah, blah, blah.
Fantastic.
Men don't care.
What if I told you I had an extensive wallet collection?
Would you care?
Wallet collection?
Yeah.
Gucci.
Gucci.
Louis Vuitton.
Louis.
I got a bunch of Jordans that are rare.
Would you care?
Not really.
Fantastic.
That's how men feel about your career and money.
But I don't do my career money for men.
I work for myself.
Exactly.
I don't get the wallets and Jordans for women.
I do it for myself.
Okay, right.
And that's fine.
I'm not sure what the point is.
That's fine for you to have those wallets.
Remember how I talked about functional equivalents?
A woman that has a career is a functional equivalent of a guy that's really into fashion.
Your money doesn't benefit me.
My fashion doesn't benefit you.
So you don't care.
Again, but we don't do it for each other.
You don't get all your wallets and your Jordans for women.
Same way I don't go to work for you.
Yeah, but you're trying to use it as a metric of why men should be attracted to you.
My money?
Yeah, you quite literally said, could we reverse it on the female side?
And I was like, well...
No, I literally said, never mind, because it doesn't matter how much women make.
Did I not say that?
You're learning, finally.
Thank God.
Look at me, I've been harassing something, guys.
Are you ready to lower your standards now that you realize that you scored a perfect 5 out of 5 catbacks?
Absolutely not.
Yeah, hell no.
No, definitely not.
No shot.
It's not something I could budge on.
Personally, I just wouldn't want somebody who's sleeping with other women.
Even out of a sanitary thing, too.
Why are you fucking other women?
I don't know.
You hear crazy stories.
I don't know.
We hear crazy stories, but why are you still traveling on girls' night trips?
We just already answered that.
We go on trips for ourselves.
We leave our city.
Let me ask you this.
If you actually met this guy, would you still go on girls' trips and stuff, too?
If I met the guy?
If you actually found this guy, would you go on girls' trips and everything else?
And I honestly will tell you, too.
You said yes?
Yes.
We would go on our girls' trip.
I run the guy to take care of the girls' trip.
Hold on.
We told you.
No, got it.
Because we explained to you what the purpose of our girl trip was.
I told you how we were at the clubs.
I told you what we did on our trip.
I told you we went to all these restaurants.
You can tell me whatever you want to tell me, right?
I'm this, but it only takes 20 minutes for you to get piped down someplace else.
I've seen it before in the clubs.
But I'm telling you that's not what I'm doing.
No, but not you.
But he's asking if I dated this less than 1% guy, would I still go on these trips?
He's going to want a lot in return.
I think that's fine.
That's what I'm saying.
If you provide for me, I'll provide back.
Provide what back?
In the beginning, we have different needs.
If you give me what I need, which is my girls' trip, my alone time, my job, my this, my that, you're providing for the house, you're doing this, I will give you back what you want.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think you're in a position to negotiate with a man of that caliber?
You think I'm not in a position to negotiate?
Yeah, you're not.
You don't think it's a negotiation?
No.
You don't think I can say, this is what I expect out of my relationship with you?
This is what women don't understand.
Yeah.
As you go up the tonal pole of men, you have less and less leverage of what you can dictate.
Yeah, you don't.
You're genuinely telling me I have no hope in a relationship right now.
No.
It's less than 1%.
I can't negotiate in my boundaries.
What I'm telling you is that as you go up the tonal pole of men, you have less and less leverage to try to negotiate with him.
It's my way or the highway.
Guys that are successful like that, they have a very A-type personality, they're not going to sit there and negotiate with you.
It's like, oh, you want to go on a girl's trip when we're in a committed relationship?
Cool!
There's another girl that will sit her ass at home and not go out there and do that because, unfortunately, even though you might not go to the club and fuck guys, That's not necessarily wifey behavior.
Yeah, it's not.
Don't you think it comes down to the guy trusting me enough to be like, I know she's not going to get fucked by some guy.
He could trust you to be a woman, which is emotionally erratic, heavily dictated by what your friends do, potentially susceptible to alcohol, and they're not going to like that.
And they're also going to know that there's going to be a bunch of dudes trying to fuck you at the club, and he doesn't want that.
It happens, sure, but we were drinking, we were smoking, we were at the clubs, not once that I think, ooh, I should be fucking this random guy.
It happens, true?
So you were drinking, you were smoking, We were at the club, and not once did I think, I'm gonna fuck this random guy who's gonna approach me next.
Not you, but most girls do that shit.
You're saying, you're going back to my hypothetical scenario.
You can't say no, because you're talking about every single woman.
Are you girls men here?
Are you a woman?
Are you men?
No, I'm not a man.
Alright, cool.
So, as a man, in a club, girls who smoke, girls who drink, they're fucked up.
Fucked up?
Yeah, they're fucked up.
Like, they fuck men.
They're intoxicated.
I did not do that.
I wasn't black out.
I wasn't somebody.
But that's what I'm saying.
Listen.
Go ahead.
Ten girls.
Seven girls out of ten will fuck guys if they're drunk or hot.
Alright, here's a three then.
Then the other seven will fuck guys.
It still doesn't change the fact that it's not a good look.
So, but if you're asking if I personally was dating that less than 1% guy, and if I still were to go on a girls trip, yes, because we're that three that he just said out of ten, would not fuck a guy, would not be stumbling out of the club.
We were functional.
I've seen it before.
You've seen it.
It's just not impossible.
It's not super rigid.
I find it interesting how you would find an exceptional guy and still think that your current behavior would be acceptable to him.
I think it comes down to what he finds acceptable as well.
Most men would not find that acceptable.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
Men that are on that caliber have standards.
Just like you have standards, right?
You want the guy to have competence and everything else like that?
Guys have standards on how their women should behave.
I think in a relationship, if you're genuinely happy, if you're getting what you want, if this was an ideal guy that I wanted, there's going to have to be some, you said not negotiation, but I'm going to have to give some.
So if he really genuinely looked at me and he was like, I don't feel comfortable with you going to Miami, honestly, maybe I wouldn't go to Miami.
But if I was like, if I wouldn't go, I would be able to sit down and be like, okay, if you don't feel comfortable with me going there, I would not go.
But I would go rebuttal and I'd be like, but me and my girls do want to go somewhere.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
Let's say you're out at a club with your man.
And some dude fucking grabs your ass and then takes your purse and runs off with it.
Right?
What's more attractive?
Him chasing that guy down, beating his ass and bringing it back for you?
Or are you having to tell him, babe, go chase after him.
What are you doing?
Which one's more attractive?
It's him acting.
So why is that he has to tell you to not go to the fucking club?
Because I don't think...
Hold on, hold on.
Let that sink in.
Why does he have to...
Some critical thinking skills.
It's more attractive for the guy to just do what he's supposed to do, act like a protector and go back and get your purse for you.
You shouldn't have to tell him.
So why is it that a man has to tell you to be a lady?
I don't think everybody would care about us going to Miami, but I'm telling you if that less than 1% that we keep hypothetically talking about said, I don't feel comfortable with you going to all these parties.
But why should he communicate that to you?
Because that's how a relationship works.
You communicate.
No, because when that guy steals your purse, he just defaulted to his male instinct and beat that guy's ass and brought it back to you because that's his job as a man.
So I want to be fair to say, as a woman, it's your job to protect your innocence, protect your purity, not put yourself in compromising situations.
Why is it that men have to tell women how to be women, but you guys would never accept it if you told men how to be men?
You don't have to tell me how to be a woman.
I don't think it's written in a book where it's like you cannot go.
That's quite effectively what he's doing by telling you not to go to the club.
You're saying I can't go on girls trips.
He shouldn't have to tell you is my point.
Why is it girls trip in particular?
It's because you're generalizing again.
Back to her thing, does it matter where the girls trip is?
Yes.
Look, man.
Do you guys not see the lunacy in what you're trying to say?
You're saying that I should naturally know not to go with my girls on a girl trip because I should naturally know that my man doesn't like that.
You should know, in general, that's behavior that's unacceptable to a majority of men and isn't necessarily wifey material.
Just like me, letting you get your purse stolen and your ass grab and not doing anything about it is bitch-made non-masculine behavior.
I'm supposed to act and be the protector and provider for you in situations that arise.
You are supposed to be my girlfriend and not embarrass me and put yourself in compromising situations without me being there.
Does that embarrass you if I take a trip with my friends?
Not necessarily to a club.
So going back to what I was saying earlier, you didn't really answer.
If you came up to me and you were like, fine, you don't come up to me.
Are you aware of the fact that a woman's behavior can absolutely destroy her man's legacy?
A woman's behavior destroys a man's legacy.
Can it destroy a man's legacy?
Yes.
Okay, sure.
Look at Jada Pinkett Smith.
What did she do?
Oh, I fucked another guy and told him that at the red table.
Will Smith now, getting made fun of, laughing stopped.
He's been embarrassed everywhere.
No one remembers Independence Day.
No one remembers Seven Pounds.
No one remembers Ali.
No one remembers Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
All they remember is him sitting at a red table with his whore wife and with red eyes and her talking about fucking another guy.
So, I don't think women understand that your woman is a reflection of you.
If my girl's going to the club and girls' nights trips, that effectively shows that I don't have control Of the relationship.
It's not about controlling the woman.
It's about being in control of the relationship.
So I just find it crazy how women expect men to act without being told what to do.
But women need to be told what to do to act like a lady.
Isn't that kind of wild?
Not necessarily told what to do, but I think you would just know based on the guy's personality.
Like, okay, he would not like me going to Miami.
So going back to what I was saying.
Most men wouldn't like it.
Okay, sure.
Most men.
Those most men that would not like me going to Miami.
Yes.
Is there somewhere that I could, like, negotiate with you?
We're like, okay, well, can I go somewhere with my girls?
Like, can we do something that's outside of Philly, outside of the boundaries that we live here?
We do everything here.
I already know all the restaurants.
I know everything.
Like, I want to take a trip with my girls.
I mean, going to a restaurant with your girlfriends is not the same as taking a trip to a vacation destination where promiscuity is almost promised.
It's just a city that we've never been to.
Like we said, we've just gone to a bunch of different cities.
And you know that that's what we do for our birthdays.
So if I came up to you and I was like, look, me and my girls want to take a trip for Diana or Carly's birthday, there would not be a single location, like a monastery.
Is that where we're allowed to go?
There's nothing you would budge on ever?
It's not that.
I'm just saying it's very interesting to me how women expect to do what they want to do, but you guys would never give men the same leeway.
Not true.
Because if I knew that that's something that hurt you, if I knew that we were in a loving relationship, committed relationship, and I knew that it would be uncomfortable for you to see me going to Miami, I would not go.
But I'm saying, is there somewhere, like, if you knew that I genuinely needed a trip with my girls...
But why?
Because we need to get...
I just said it.
We'd travel to different cities.
I've done it.
It's our birthday.
It's our birthday.
We wouldn't go to clubs.
Your official family or your girls?
I'm sorry?
My future family?
Or my girls?
Yeah, your girls.
So you think as soon as you get in a relationship, that's the tunnel you're going under?
Forget all my friends.
Forget my family.
It's just...
I mean, you're striving to actually create a whole family.
If you're like, you know what?
Fuck my kids in the future and fuck my husband.
That's not what you say by going on a trip with your friends.
So basically, in order to be a high-value woman, you can't go anywhere.
You're stuck in the house.
That's not what we said.
Putting yourself in situations where you're around drunk, horny men trying to have sex with you.
Okay, forget the clubs.
Fine.
Answer my question.
Alright, so what?
Me and you, hypothetically, dating.
And Carly's birthday's coming up.
We want to go to a new city we've never been in because we've never been to Carbone.
You're not going without me.
Yeah.
It would be us three and you on a trip to Carbone?
And we should take care of the bills?
For all the girls?
Does she has a husband, a man?
Put your headphones on.
Probably, yeah.
Like if we're older and we're all dating somebody.
Probably?
No, yeah.
If she has a man, right?
So are we doing like, so okay, maybe for a birthday is not a good example because you'd probably want your husband with you on your birthday.
Okay, so not a birthday.
Forget it.
Say I got, I don't know, a promotion at work.
It's our anniversary of our friendship.
We've been friends since whatever and ever.
And we were like, we want to go to a new, like I saw this new restaurant.
See, honestly, it was just one thank you seriously.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Back and forth with you like, oh, I want to do this.
Why?
See, here's the thing that women don't get.
When you have this type of behavior and you want to be out with your friends and you want to do whatever, you know what guys are going to do?
Silently in the back of their mind, they're going to put you in the, okay, she's for the streets category.
Why is that for the streets?
Because I told you I want to go to a restaurant I've never been to before.
No, no, no.
But if you want to go out on girls trips and live like you're single, but you have a guy at home, a lot of guys are going to put you in a box and they're going to put it in the sex-only category.
They'll never say anything, but what they're going to do is they're going to silently disqualify you from anything serious.
The only way I'd be okay with a guy coming on my girl's trip is if he's paying for everything.
Fantastic.
Well, that's why you are where you are now.
Wait, no, no.
I mean, I want to care about the peng.
That wasn't my point.
You would want to come on a trip that...
It's all girls?
It's just us.
Us three and you.
I don't know.
We're all getting ready and doing our makeup.
A big part of our girls' trip is the amount of time we spent together and not where we went.
To be honest, wanting to go on a girls' trip in the first place is a red flag.
Yeah.
But we told you what our girls trip entails.
We didn't say go to clubs, shake ass, be naked in the streets.
You can say one thing, but I've seen different things.
Right, with people that were not us.
So you're saying that it happens, and I agree with you.
I've seen people, girls, guys, everybody.
I just want to commit to a girl that does that.
Yeah.
That hangs out with her friends?
No, that likes to go on girls' trips and put herself in certain situations.
And I don't care what she says.
I can trust a woman to be a woman, which is impulsive, emotionally spontaneous, following her friends.
You know, all it takes is one bad friend to fuck everything up.
Wait, wait.
So, question.
Because I told you three, right?
If Drake invited to his penthouse, right?
You all three would have went, right?
We're all three, also single.
No, no, no, but...
Oh, so...
I think it matters.
If I'm in a relationship and Drake is like, come to my penthouse, no I'm not going.
But if I'm single...
Yeah, well, you're single in Miami.
Why are we going to Drake's?
This is too unrealistic.
Everything we've been talking about.
It's too hypothetical.
Why are we even going there in the first place?
Most girls, they come to Miami, right?
And all of a sudden, they put in, hey, here's scenario A, here's B, then it escalates.
And all of a sudden, it's like, you know what?
I just slip on Dick.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So don't even go to Miami because then it starts to escalate.
Initially, you probably don't want to fuck some other guy.
But the more you go down the path, hey, I'm doing this, I'm doing this.
And then before you know it, you're like waking up in a yacht being fucked by two or three other guys.
And you're like, damn.
I don't think that would ever happen.
I've seen it.
Gross, gross, gross, gross.
And I don't disagree with you.
I've seen it though.
I'm sure.
Like more than once probably.
It happens.
I tell guys a general rule of thumb is we just tell guys not to commit to girls that are in certain professions, that want to adopt certain lifestyle habits.
These are just women you don't want to commit to.
I think you're just really rigid.
I think you're saying because this group of people, of women, does this on girls trips, you should just not date these types of women.
But then it leaves people like us who genuinely have no intentions of going and fucking two men on a yacht that I don't know about.
You have pretty high standards.
$200,000 per year, six foot.
Yeah, I do have high standards.
You're saying I'm rigid.
I would argue you're even more rigid in your standards than I am.
I mean, I never said I didn't have high standards.
Okay, so my thing is, I think all guys should kind of employ the mindset I have where you don't want to commit to certain girls that have certain behaviors because it's going to fuck you up.
Okay, but it's the same vice versa, don't you think?
Like, I wouldn't want to commit to some guy who has a certain type of behavior, like not being able to stay with one woman.
But men have to earn their value.
What are you talking about?
I'm telling you, like, my point is, if, going back on this insane hypothetical of girls trips, you're telling me that because I want to spend time with my friends, because I don't get to see them as often, because when you are in a relationship, you do...
That doesn't mean we all have our own lives, though.
When you are in a relationship, you do want to spend more time with your partner, right?
When you're in a relationship, you spend the majority of your time with your partner.
So you stop seeing your friends as much.
So if I am, like, saying, I need to...
Well, if your guy's really successful making money, you're not going to see him that much anyway.
He's going to be putting his mission above you.
That's why I tell guys never prioritize women.
I just don't understand.
So you ain't gonna see him that much anyway.
He's gonna be working a lot.
So I'm not even seeing my...
I'm not hanging out with my partner.
I'm not hanging out with my girls.
What am I doing?
Are you aware that higher earning men, you're not gonna see them that often because they're working?
But what's higher earning?
$200,000 could be a fucking accountant.
Like they work...
They have their...
What are you...
What?
Women have no concept of money.
This is wild.
A CPA? You know what percentage of men make $200,000 a year?
An accountant?
You don't think an accountant of a certain amount of experience...
I think it's what, when they reach a public accountant, when they reach up to like eight years or so, six to eight, if I'm not mistaken.
They have to probably own their own firm to make that kind of money.
I don't think so.
If you work for...
Think or no.
What percentage of men do you think actually make $200,000 per year?
I don't know.
Let's put it in your calculator.
Let's just use common sense.
You don't think it's a good amount of...
It's not a dating pool for me to look through.
This is incredible.
Why is this incredible?
How many guys?
Okay, Google it.
Someone Google it.
See how many men make that amount of money.
200,000 a year.
In the U.S. alone.
Because at least that way it'll give me like coast to coast of finding my less than 1% match.
It's going to be less than like 2% of men that make that kind of money in the United States.
Less than 2%.
That's not even accounting for height, charm, how he looks.
Personality.
Like, are you aware that, like, only 15% of the entire U.S. population makes $100,000 per year?
Men and women?
How many people live in the U.S.? Men, okay.
How many men live in the U.S.? That's men and women.
Married, unmarried, everybody.
So, 200K per year?
2% of all the entire population of the U.S. is still a good amount of people.
I don't know how many people live in the US. My bad, I don't have that number off the top of my head, so I can't calculate it for you.
But still, 2% of millions and millions of people is still a big ass number.
Yeah, but they're rare.
But it happens, is what I'm saying.
It's possible.
It happens, Mara.
It happens.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me live in my whimsical high standards.
Are you aware that possible and probable are two different things?
Yes.
Okay, so just because it's possible...
Thank you.
What does that mean it's probable?
Like, the likelihood is extremely slim, actually, that you'd find this guy.
But it's possible.
It's possible, Mari.
I'll hold on to it.
Mari, it's possible.
Thank you.
Manifest it, Mari.
Manifest it.
Manifest a queen.
I mean, I think that's the difference between many women and women.
I just learned about manifestation.
Now I'm gonna get so much money.
I don't need a job.
Why?
Turn that off.
Girls can kind of just live in a loony world, bro.
I love it here.
Am I delusion?
I love it here.
Delusions.
I mean, we literally just showed you how rare your guy is and you're still trying to sit here and tell us, I still want to go on girls trips and shit.
Like, I'm just like...
Yeah, it's fine.
I mean...
Because it's your...
Who do you think has the leverage here?
There's a lot less of him than there is of you.
Girls.
It's your concept of girls trips.
Guys will lie to you the fuck.
At the end of the day, me personally, me and mine are fresh, whatever.
If we see a girl, hey, I'm a boss babe, and whatever, girls trips, alright, that's cool, cool, it's fine.
But then it's like, we'll deal with you, we'll fuck you, and before you know it, why did he ghost me?
That's a question most girls ask.
Why did a guy I wanted ghost me?
And you girls don't even fucking know.
That's the scary part.
And we're telling you why the guys ghost you, and you're like...
Man, fuck him, bro.
That's your opinion.
That's your opinion.
What the fuck?
And they will tell you, like, look at you.
Like, you're all thinking, like, damn, this nigga is right.
Because...
Nah, they don't give a fuck.
I'm thirsty.
I want water.
That's what I'm thinking.
They don't give a fuck, bro.
I mean, it, like, girls don't wake up until they're older, bro.
That's what I've realized.
Like, girls really don't wake up and realize until they're 30 years old and paying for knowing drinks at the bar that, you know, their best years have passed them.
I don't care, man.
That's fine.
The point of this podcast isn't to, like, educate y'all.
It's for the audience to kind of know, like, this is how a lot of women think.
Like, I'm going to do what I want to do.
I don't give a fuck what y'all niggas think.
And that's kind of how it is.
And that's fine.
Yeah, fine.
That's fine.
So, anyway.
What's up, man?
We'll get last thoughts.
Yeah, sure.
Because, uh, I know you had a job that time.
Oh, that is, uh, you know, it's, uh, 12.
Stream, stream lab chats.
Um, shout out to the real Mr.
Meatball with a hundred dollars super chat.
He said, he just saying.
I'm losing my hair follicles here.
He's just saying Myron is right.
Shoutouts to Kiko Perez with $50.
He said, yo, Myron and Fresh, thanks for the content.
You have sacrificed your careers and your hair follicles for the greater good of all of us.
Hoping that you all rise above any challenge during these tough times.
Stay blessed.
Shout out to the real Mr.
Meatball $100 again.
Shout out to bro.
He said a man's value is positively correlated with the ability to provide a woman's value is inversely correlated with their promiscuity.
A woman's ability to provide a man's promiscuity play a minimal role.
This scales with the person's value.
Do you guys get what he said there?
They don't get it.
I wasn't listening.
Yeah, of course.
We know.
Yeah, we know.
Well, okay.
Well, that's why we do the podcast.
Guys, we do this podcast so y'all don't sit there and argue with women, bro.
They're like, yo, man.
They'll never understand.
1230, they're checked out, bro.
Yeah, man.
It's like, fuck it.
Yeah.
They're going to go and do what they're going to do.
It is what it is.
This isn't...
All right, girls.
Last thoughts and questions before we close out.
Or disagreements or points.
Disagreements, points.
Let's start with you.
What I'm saying is that everybody's opinion tonight is valid.
Okay.
And I hear you.
No, they're not.
Okay.
An opinion can absolutely be wrong.
Well, I'm having my last thoughts.
And my last thoughts are I respect people's different opinions.
And I had an interesting conversation.
And thank you guys for having me on the podcast.
Fair.
But not all opinions are valid.
If I said one plus one is three...
Well, that's your opinion.
And your opinion is valid, so...
Oh, shit.
No, it's not.
Not everyone's opinion is valid.
If it's incorrect, I would argue it's not valid.
But that's fine.
What about you?
Thank you for having me.
You didn't say much.
She was sloshing.
She was like, I'm tired.
I'm thirsty.
No, I think my headphones were too loud so my head started hurting.
We do a sound check.
No, it started right now.
Okay, gotcha.
Yeah, definitely.
But yeah, thank you guys for the good time.
Wait, but don't you work in a club though?
Is it loud over there?
Yeah.
So then, yeah.
It depends on the topic of conversation.
Oh, so you got triggered.
Nah, I just haven't eaten anything.
Just saying.
Maybe I am triggered.
Okay, cool.
Thank you.
Follow me on Instagram.
So that coming.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yep.
Hey, y'all!
Thank you guys for having me.
Your guys' thoughts are interesting.
I still feel how I feel.
Which is?
I just like girls and I like the way we think and I hate guys.
Oh, shit.
Fantastic.
That's all I gotta say.
Hey, y'all!
Hey, man.
They really can't handle the truth, man.
She hates guys, though.
Yeah, she hates guys.
Fair enough.
You guys are very opinionated.
Fuck guys, man.
That's what I'm saying.
We just told you how men think in general.
I mean, if you don't like it, it is what it is.
We appreciate it, though.
We appreciate it, though.
I don't.
I appreciate it.
I like having different point of views.
Doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind.
I mean, point of views, like OnlyFans, when you...
Never mind.
Y'all hit low.
You literally said that I haven't talked.
So what are you going to say?
That's a personal choice she made.
Yeah, but why do you have to keep shoving it in her face like that?
Exactly, that's my choice.
She made her choice and she's living with it.
It's fine.
Hold on, hold on.
She made a choice.
Like if someone shoved in my face, oh, it used to be a fed.
I'd be like, yeah, I'm proud of it.
Yeah, he's fed.
So why are you saying it that way?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You're saying it to throw shots.
It wouldn't be that way.
Because sex work is not respected by the majority of people in society.
Well, maybe she don't care about sex work.
But sex work is still sex work.
And even though it's not respected, it's the thing that has got me out of Puerto Rico and I've been financially independent since I was 19 thanks to sex work.
Violin?
No, what?
He's not throwing it in her face.
He's just stating this is the truth.
Like, you know, hey, is this going to be respected by society?
If someone threw in your face, you're a doctor!
You're a doctor!
You're a doctor!
You'd be like, damn right!
But if someone says you're on OnlyFans, you're on OnlyFans, well, yeah, you're going to feel some type of way because it's not respected by society, unfortunately.
Are you on OnlyFans?
Why are you not on OnlyFans?
I never had the interest of doing that.
Why did you have the interest?
Because we all have our own interests.
She's not even on Instagram.
I'm not a social media person.
She won't say it because she jumped in.
She hit it.
She hit that Instagram.
Let her talk.
I didn't say nothing.
That was me.
You gotta live with your choices, right?
It's fine.
Hey, get your money.
Sometimes I do think about what my life would be if I didn't start OnlyFast, but I'm actually happy that I did it.
I know, but earlier I asked you, if you was to find a man who you actually truly love and respected and who would pay for your bills, and would you quit OnlyFans?
You said yes.
Yeah, I would.
Okay.
So simple as that.
That's the only thing that's sustaining me right now.
That's fine.
My consensus?
This was definitely interesting.
I think we...
Oh, too far.
Yeah.
Penis.
Coming into it, honestly, I don't think we knew what to expect.
Obviously, we've seen clips of the show and whatnot, so...
Oh, shit, clips?
So if you saw clips, wouldn't it be fair to say you knew what you were getting yourself into then?
I looked it up before we came.
Before that, it was probably just a TikTok or two that I skipped.
I mean, seeing something and actually experience it.
Yeah, it's very different.
You said it's not necessarily for us, but I can say that I think we will take stuff away from this.
Yeah.
Because you said it's more for the audience.
Are you going to change any of your behavior?
Am I going to lower my standards?
No.
But we know now what you guys think, though.
We know more about it.
Yeah.
But now that you know how men think, are you going to change your behavior realistically?
Doesn't matter.
She said she took something away from it, though.
She didn't say she was going to change who she is.
I have to just speak louder than words.
So if your behavior isn't going to change, then it doesn't matter.
Say the same thing I just said.
No, no.
See?
And that's fine.
I'm not telling you to change your behavior.
I'm just, like I said before, this podcast just illustrates what we've talked about.
Like, women don't give a fuck what men think, and that's cool.
But it proves our point.
That's not true.
I told you.
Do I care what the general men group think?
No, but if I was in a relationship with someone, that's when you have to start taking into account.
That's when you said you would have to consider going on a trip to Miami is unacceptable.
So guys that she only care about.
But if I'm single, is it wrong of me to go to Miami?
If she ain't fucking you, fuck you.
She belongs to the streets!
Fantastic.
What about you?
Yeah, well, first, thanks for having me.
But at the same time, I think throughout this podcast, I definitely listened more than I thought.
Yeah, you did.
Sorry.
That's fine.
But based on that, when I made that one argument, the empath thing, I definitely still stand on that.
I definitely heard you out.
I definitely ended up agreeing with some things you said.
Maybe not all of them, but I still did share my own opinion just because, you know, personal, compared to generality.
But all in all, I really do think...
I think you can sympathize, but I don't think...
You're empathetic because you're not a man.
So only men can...
Just say okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I said my point.
I think I empathize with what you said.
I think I took it into consideration, actually agreed with you on some points, but at the same time, I still have my own opinion based on myself.
All right.
But, yeah, thank you.
It's an interesting show.
No, I mean, from, I saw on the panel, like, they're so young.
Yeah.
And, you know, they're still in shape.
You know, they're so single.
Well, you know, well, not young, but you're 29.
But, you're four.
But, listen, girls, like, just take what you can from tonight's show.
Don't give a fuck.
Watch it back.
Don't give a fuck.
Hey, listen, I know, but, you know, like, I don't give a fuck, bro.
They're gonna go to the club and keep doing the shit that they were doing before.
It don't matter.
It's fine.
That's right.
All right, guys.
Welcome to the show.
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I actually do.
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All right.
Please keep following me.
Thank you.
Yeah.
You're a fan now, man.
We love that over here.
All right.
We'll catch you guys on next episode of Fresh Fit on Wednesday.