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Aug. 17, 2023 - Fresh & Fit

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Feminist Calls Us M1s0gynists & HEATED Debate Ensues!

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	The podcast is after our edition.
	We'll join the full panel.
	Let's get into it.
	Let's go.
	Let's go.
	Put your shoes on outside.
	You don't got to put them on in here.
	Ryan, we are back.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to the Freshier Podcast, After Hours edition.
	A quick announcement when we get into the show.
	Number one.
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	It's better anyway.
	Yeah, it is what it is, man.
	Also, guys, check us out on fresherfit.locals.com.
	We live stream the pre-show right before the show.
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	All the hoodies and t-shirts and slogans you guys have come to learn and love are over there.
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	Subscribe to our other YouTube channels called Fresh Fit Clips and we got another one called More Fresh Fit Clips.
	We want to hit 1 million on the Fresh Fit Clips channel and then 100k on the other channels so we can get some more plaques and flex on the haters.
	Also, check us out on Spotify, guys.
	If you want to get the audio and or video version of the podcast, you can go ahead and check us out over there if you don't want to watch it on YouTube.
	Also, Fresh has a vlog.
	Guys, if you want vlogs of our lifestyle, us traveling, having fun, go check it out.
	We just came back from Columbia.
	Awesome trip, so don't forget to check it out.
	Also as well, we have the network, which is pretty much my network, giving value, adding value as well.
	Millionaires from around the world give you advice about success, money, how to invest, all that.
	So tap into that.
	See you guys in there.
	All right, and check me out, guys, on FedReacts.
	You guys know I break down criminal cases.
	I am going to be covering the Trump-Georgia-RICO indictment tomorrow.
	I'm going to actually live stream at 7 p.m.
	I'm going to give you guys probably the most thorough breakdown on that RICO case.
	You guys know I used to do RICO cases when I was on the job.
	So I'm going to go ahead and cover...
	They actually indicted...
	Very ironic.
	They indicted Rudy Giuliani, who actually was one of the first prosecutors to successfully indict RICO against the mafia.
	That's insane.
	How the tables have turned.
	Forget about it.
	Yeah, seriously, bro.
	Real talk.
	He went ahead and put them in jail.
	Now they're putting him in jail.
	Fuck crazy.
	But anyway, guys, I'm going to cover that tomorrow at 7 p.m.
	So if you guys want the most thorough breakdown on that case, I'm going to go ahead and give it to y'all tomorrow.
	Live pause.
	Is he guilty?
	I'm Trump.
	Rudy Giuliani?
	No, but he got indicted with Trump.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	So this is his fourth indictment, guys, in the past years.
	You guys know New York State indicted him for the stupid business record stuff, the classified documents case, the January 6th interference, election interference, and now the state of Georgia hit him and I think like 18 other defendants with a RICO conspiracy.
	Damn, bro.
	Yeah, it's bullshit, man.
	You know, we fought with Trump over here on this side of the internet, so it's a bunch of bullshit.
	Oh yeah, my bad.
	I got wrapped up in the political stuff.
	Guys, go get my book, Why Women Deserve Less, in stores right now on Amazon.
	Let's go, ladies!
	An Amazon bestseller.
	Yeah!
	She's like, hell no!
	I got a hardcover, softcover, Kindle, Audible, everywhere that you guys like.
	If you can't read and you're illiterate, don't worry.
	You can listen to an Audible where I yell at you.
	And Chris, what about you?
	Yeah, so, girls.
	Aaron C. Poxon on IG. Shout out to the girls for coming on to the panel.
	We got all new girls, by the way.
	Hey!
	Yes, good job, Chris.
	Shout out to the team.
	Chris appreciation.
	Yeah, facts, right?
	Anyways, guys, once again, we do not pay anybody to come onto the show, right?
	Emails, we don't do emails.
	We don't pay dues, you know, for after hours.
	So if you're not sure, ladies, let's DM you and R.C. Parks in and let's make it happen.
	Yeah, guys, there's been some guys scamming, like sending emails and stuff out.
	We will never email you guys.
	If you want to get on the show, you message either Chris, Aaron C. Poxon, or underscore she saw ICTV. Those are pretty much the main people that run that side.
	So you got to talk to them.
	And also, we mainly film on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, not Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, man, we're never going to email you to come on the show.
	So that person's a scammer.
	He's stealing people's Facebook stuff.
	And we're not even on Facebook like that, so what is it?
	2010?
	Like, what the hell's going on here?
	Crap on!
	But anyway, it is what it is.
	Cool, so introduce the lovely ladies.
	We don't further ado, ladies, if you don't mind.
	Give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course...
	Your body count.
	And we're going to start right here.
	Welcome.
	Hi, I'm Carmen.
	I'm from Holland.
	I work as a chef.
	I study international law, bachelor's level.
	So, undergrad.
	How old are you, Carmen?
	I'm 20.
	And you said you're from Holland?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you're a chef?
	I'm a chef.
	Okay.
	And you're pursuing your bachelor's degree right now?
	Yeah.
	International law.
	Okay.
	What's your best dish to make?
	I really like meat, like different kinds of combining cuisine, so different spices and marinades.
	What's that called, your best dish?
	I have some kind of steak.
	I don't have a name for it.
	Okay.
	I have my own culinary side, so I do my own recipes.
	Did you go to school for that too, or no?
	No, but I've been working for five years now.
	Okay.
	Do you want to be a lawyer, I'm guessing?
	International law?
	Or going to diplomacy, maybe.
	Okay.
	And then what's your relationship status?
	Single, married?
	In a relationship.
	Okay.
	How long have I been together?
	Almost a year now.
	Okay.
	Is he from America?
	No, he actually, he lives in Tunisia.
	Wow.
	That was random.
	Oh, wow.
	Wait, how'd you set your location to Tunisia?
	Wait a minute!
	They have phones out there?
	Wait a minute!
	Yeah, it's in North Africa, so...
	He said his location in Holland?
	I guess he was looking for a chef or something.
	They all got no food over there to do so, I'll tell you that!
	No, I'm just kidding.
	It's very similar to Sudan.
	A lot of them speak Arabic, you know, Muslim country, etc.
	Hey man, BBC game, we went in.
	Nigga, okay.
	We can't hear you.
	I'm over here talking on the side, guys.
	Sorry.
	Say what you want to say.
	At the time, you were able to swipe anywhere for free during the pandemic.
	Okay.
	He knows.
	Have y'all met a person yet?
	No, but he's going to come and visit me.
	But I met his family, his friends.
	No.
	Oh, wow.
	You are dating yourself right now.
	Hey, when that meat meets the meat, this is nothing happening right now, okay?
	Damn!
	That's like that, what's it called?
	Catfish?
	That show on MTV? Man!
	This man's all family set up, man.
	He sent some actors to meet you.
	They're gonna meet you, all right?
	All right.
	Fantastic.
	The wrong accent, Chris.
	I think it's actually...
	All right, what about you?
	What's your name?
	My name is Haley.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I'm a part-time CAVA tender and I'm a student at FAU. So I live in Boca, but I'm from Orlando.
	Okay.
	And then you, what do you do for work again?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm a CAVA tender, part-time.
	CAVA tender?
	CAVA. Is that CAVA? K-A-V-A. What's a CAVA tender?
	So CAVA... It's a root from the South Pacific.
	Basically, it's just it interacts with your GABA receptors the same way that alcohol does, except it doesn't impair your cognitive skills.
	So it's like a really good replacement for alcohol.
	So you get let off cava?
	Yeah.
	I need some of that.
	It's pretty cool.
	You got Hennessy Carver?
	Hennessy Carver?
	It tastes like dirt.
	It's like mud water.
	It's gross.
	So what's the benefit that you can get the effects of being drunk without Ruining your health?
	I mean, yeah, it's like good for people who are like alcoholics and don't want to avoid alcohol or if like alcoholism runs in their family.
	Isn't it like a mushroom type of thing?
	Is it kratom or something?
	Well, we do serve kratom as well.
	Kratom?
	Yeah.
	Does it still have like the same negative health situation like alcohol or no?
	Yeah, similar, but I guess not as bad.
	Okay.
	But I mean, at the end of the day, like it's supposed to be a healthier option, but I don't know.
	It's like a nicotine patch.
	It's not as bad as the original habit, but it gets you through.
	What's your highest education level completed?
	I'm studying right now.
	I'm a criminal justice major, so high school right now.
	Do you want to drop where you go to school?
	It's up to you.
	Oh yeah, I said it earlier.
	F-A-U. F-I-U. F-A-U. Oh, okay.
	Sorry, I'm writing this down too.
	And then, relationship status?
	I'm single.
	Single?
	All right.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	I'm Helene.
	Chris.
	I mean, she's over 30.
	Come on, man.
	All right.
	Sorry.
	What's your name?
	I'm Helene.
	Helene.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah.
	And Penelope and I were co-founders of Step It Up.
	It's a weight loss company.
	Okay.
	And I'm 47.
	47?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Matt Mills, man.
	Well, do you have children?
	Penelope.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's my girl.
	So she wouldn't not move.
	Oh, it'd be cool.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I live in Los Angeles.
	Okay, cool.
	And then you said that you guys have a fitness business together.
	It's food, fitness, and mindset.
	So it's all three.
	And it's all three because all three are required to create sustainable weight loss and improve health outcomes.
	And I have a master's degree in nutrition.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	Where'd you get it from?
	I got it from Clayton and I studied food as medicine internationally.
	So I speak fluent French and German and Penelope was born in Switzerland.
	And so we've looked at healing traditions throughout the world.
	Gotcha.
	Bonjour.
	And then where'd you get your undergrad from?
	My undergrad, I started at Hunter in New York City.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and both at Clayton.
	What degree did you get in Hunter?
	I started a marketing degree.
	Okay.
	And then relationship status?
	I'm in a long-term committed relationship.
	Nice.
	Is it with the father?
	No, we're divorced.
	My dad and I are divorced.
	Okay, so divorced, but in a relationship now.
	How long have you been together?
	Four years.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Jen.
	I have my doctorate in pharmacy and integrative health.
	Okay.
	How old are you?
	I'm 45.
	Where are you originally from?
	I'm originally from Chicago.
	Grew up in California.
	I live in Miami, currently.
	I work as an integrative women's health pharmacist.
	I studied neuroscience at Harvard, so I kind of like to integrate that in with my practice.
	I also teach yoga, Pilates, and I am doing my postdoctoral fellowship in anti-aging and metabolic medicine right now through the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine.
	So that's kind of what I'm asking.
	Are you guys friends?
	No, we're just the two older ones.
	Hey, Cooper's in the house!
	Let's go!
	Yeah.
	Okay, so I'm trying to write it.
	Okay, 45 Chicago.
	You're a pharmacist, but also a yoga instructor.
	Would it be fair to say that a pharmacist is your primary profession?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then...
	It sounds to me like you're a PhD candidate, you said?
	No, I already have three doctorates, but I'm going for, I'm in a fellowship, so I'm going for my board certification in anti-aging metabolic medicine right now.
	I'm a PhD.
	And just to be clear, you said, is one of those PhDs in Harvard neuroscience, you said?
	No, no, no.
	I studied neuroscience in Harvard, but my doctorates are from University of Florida.
	Okay.
	All of them?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And undergrad too?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Microbiology undergrad.
	Okay.
	And then relationship status?
	I'm technically, legally married.
	Okay, married but separated, I would say, right?
	Probably?
	No, you're single, nigga.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's a long story.
	It's a long story.
	Married but divorce coming soon.
	All right.
	You're coming to a team near you.
	Complicated.
	Okay.
	Complicated.
	Let me write that down here, too, in my notes.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Penelope.
	I am 18.
	I am a co-founder with my mom for Step It Up, our weight loss program.
	You were born in Switzerland, right?
	I was born in Switzerland, yes.
	Where'd you go to school?
	All around the world.
	No, I went to school in Maryland, Florida, California.
	Okay, if you had to pick, because you're young, if you had to pick a home state, which one would you, or a home city, where would you consider it?
	Oh, that's so hard.
	Maybe Maryland.
	Okay.
	What part of Maryland?
	Baldwin is where I lived.
	Northern Baltimore.
	Alright, and then I guess you work with your mom.
	And then what's your 18?
	High school, right?
	High school diploma, not going to college.
	Smart move.
	Smart.
	It's a waste of money a lot of times.
	And then what's your relationship status?
	I'm in a monogamous long-term relationship.
	Okay!
	High school sweethearts, I'm guessing?
	Uh, no.
	No.
	No.
	How long have you been together?
	Almost eight months now.
	Okay.
	How'd you guys meet?
	We met at a leadership retreat in Las Vegas.
	Wow.
	That's cool.
	In Las Vegas?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm assuming he's older than you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Me?
	Yes.
	My name is Leandra.
	I'm 23 years old.
	I'm from Queens, New York, but I live in California.
	New York!
	She's from New York.
	Okay.
	And then what's your highest education?
	Sorry, what do you do for it?
	I'm an actress and a model and I have my own fashion line.
	It's called Single Till I'm Rich.
	Okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	It's called Single Till You're Rich?
	Yeah.
	Why is that funny?
	No, no, no.
	Until you become rich or until you find a rich guy?
	Single till I'm rich.
	Well, you can find a rich guy then.
	Yeah.
	Well, I want to be rich myself.
	Go queen.
	You got that.
	She's an independent, man.
	Come on.
	Because there's many ways for women to acquire wealth, and one of them is through a male.
	Let's be honest here.
	Most women, female millionaires...
	Divorce.
	Get it through divorce.
	Okay, what about...
	Okay, so fashion line, actress model, highest education level completed?
	I went up to my senior year in college and then I dropped out, actually, probably right before.
	I had 30 credits left and then I dropped out because I was at Buffalo State College as a party school.
	But then COVID started and then it was just really hard to continue and my life just got really lit.
	So I was like, fuck school.
	Alright, fair enough.
	What did you major in when you were there?
	Theater.
	Are you in any major roles?
	I've just done background for now.
	On the way, on the way.
	And then relationship status?
	Independent boss, babe, man.
	Theater school, college, party school.
	Alright, what's your body count?
	God damn!
	Whatever you want it to be.
	She's sassy with it too.
	Okay, Chris.
	She judoed that one.
	What about you?
	Hello, my name is Katerina, but you guys can call me Kate.
	I'm from Europe.
	I'm half Italian.
	How old are you?
	I'm 20.
	20?
	Okay, where in Europe are you from?
	In Europe, so I was born in Italy, Venice, but my mom is Estonian, like next to Russia.
	So I lived there for a long time as well.
	And I moved to, I live in California now.
	I moved to California two years ago, and I'm studying in college there in San Diego State University.
	Would it be fair to say you're like ethnically Estonian or Russian, but you, I guess your nationality would be Italy?
	I have both nationalities, but I would say...
	What passport do you carry?
	Estonian and Italian.
	But your family's roots are Estonia?
	Yeah, so my mom's side is in Estonia.
	Your dad's Italian?
	And then what do you do for work?
	So, I'm working right now at a student financial center at the STSU. I'm an international student, so I kind of have to work on campus, but yeah, I go to college there.
	I'm studying marketing.
	She's the person denying your FAFSA. That's fact.
	That is me.
	She's the one denying y'all.
	Okay.
	So, okay.
	Student financial aid department.
	Okay.
	And then you said you're in school right now, right?
	Pursuing your bachelor's probably?
	Yeah, doing my bachelor.
	Marketing, but I want to go to law school after.
	Okay.
	Do you want to drop where you go to school?
	Up to you.
	Yeah, I go to San Diego State University.
	Okay.
	Alright, and then relationship status?
	I'm in a relationship.
	My boyfriend lives in California as well.
	Yeah, we met through Instagram.
	And I think we've been together for eight months, also something around that.
	Does he go to school with you?
	So he went, yeah, he goes to, it's also in San Diego, but it's in Point Loma.
	It's like Point Loma University.
	Okay.
	And since you got your Estonian and Italian, I'm assuming you're here on an F1 visa?
	Yeah, that's correct.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Okay, hi.
	My name is Maria, but everybody knows me as Zabella Safed on social media.
	Okay, how old are you?
	I'm 20.
	Okay, where are you from?
	I'm from Venezuela.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I was born in...
	What part of Venezuela?
	Caracas.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wait, is that Chama?
	Chama, oh yeah.
	Chama, yeah.
	Okay.
	What do you do for work?
	Right now I'm working as a customer service in a furniture store.
	Okay.
	Just chilling there.
	What's that like?
	Yo, this couch sucks.
	Like...
	Yeah, I have people calling me like, after five years, yo, my bed broke.
	I'm like, I mean...
	Warranty?
	No, there's no warranty.
	Okay, fair enough.
	They'd get out of business, I guess, if they did that, right?
	Like, oh yeah, warranty on the bed.
	People would just go crazy.
	All right.
	Customer service, furniture store.
	Okay, and then how is your case level completed?
	I'm right now, I'm a college student.
	I'm studying business.
	Okay.
	You're pursuing your BA business.
	Do you want to drop where you go to school?
	I mean if my life gets better like on social media or if I find something like besides college, I would love to drop out.
	No, no, no, no.
	Do you want to say where you go to school is what I'm saying?
	Yeah, Miami Dade College.
	And that's a nice shirt you have on by the way.
	Thank you.
	It's a real problem.
	And then relationship status?
	I'm single.
	All right.
	And last but not least.
	All right.
	My name is Elanice.
	I'm 19.
	I'm also a student at FAU and I'm currently studying linguistics.
	What's your name?
	Elanice?
	Elanice.
	I also go by E. Yeah, E. That's way easier.
	Come on, man.
	No worries.
	Okay.
	Where are you originally from?
	I went to high school in Jacksonville, but I currently live in Orlando, like Lake Mary area.
	Okay.
	And you said you do what for work one more time?
	So I actually work at Prest.
	It's normally like a company like New York, Boston, California.
	It's like a juicery, like a fresh fruit juicery.
	But I also work as an orientation leader at my university.
	Okay.
	Do you live in Jackson?
	You said you live in Orlando, right?
	Yeah, I live in Orlando.
	Okay.
	And then highest education level completed?
	I'm currently a student studying linguistics.
	Okay, so you're actually pursuing a BA in linguistics.
	Yes.
	What language?
	Currently, I think Arabic or Farsi.
	I haven't really decided yet as my minor.
	Are you trying to get into military or some type of government work?
	I am.
	I'm trying to go to the Air Force.
	Okay.
	What in the Air Force are you trying to do particularly?
	So I'm trying to decide between either intelligence or a psychological language.
	So basically interpreting other languages and having to translate on the spot.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Then, I mean, yeah, do Intel or do OSI. Okay, and then just keep your record clean and don't smoke weed.
	Yeah.
	It's coming from someone that came from that line of work.
	He would know.
	And then what's your election status?
	Single.
	All right.
	Cool.
	And don't make an OnlyFans.
	That'll fuck you up.
	Getting a clearance.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, and today, guys, is special.
	So, guys, you don't know this, right?
	But we started Fresh and Fit two and a half years ago with me, Myron, and my boy, Chris.
	And today, it's Chris Aaron C. Pogsons.
	Appreciation Day!
	And I gotta say, good job, Chris.
	For all you've done, bro.
	Chris is that guy who does his work behind the scenes.
	He goes for the show.
	And as well, he's the number one producer that's always drunk.
	But, without further ado, Chris, thank you, brother, for coming on the show.
	Alright, thank you.
	Yeah, he's a special guest.
	I can't wait for him to fuck up this show.
	My mic is so my head's off.
	He's deaf.
	Alright, so ladies, we're going to open it up.
	We're going to turn it to y'all if you guys have a question for us.
	Maybe it might have been a rumor or maybe something you heard about the show or whatever.
	So I'll open it up to y'all.
	I'm going to start right here with Miss Farsi, linguist.
	And then we're going to work our way back around whether, yeah, question, comment, disagreement on something that we've talked about before, etc.
	I'll turn it to y'all.
	Um, disagreements, comments, questions, concerns, I'm pretty, like, I'm chill, I'm straight, I'm just here to have a good time, really.
	What did you hear about the show before you came on?
	Yeah.
	It's okay if it's negative, tell us the truth.
	I mean, like, obviously you hear a bunch of girls talking about, oh, they're misogynistic and it's not a third.
	No way!
	Really?
	Yeah, I know.
	Crazy, crazy idea.
	But, like, me personally, from what I've watched, I can agree with, like, a grand portion of what y'all say to an extent.
	There are just some times where it gets too heated and I get myself pissed off and I'm just like, okay, we gotta cut it off.
	Because I know, like, if I'm getting heated in a conversation I'm not in, I got better things.
	What side frustrates you more, us or the girls?
	Be honest.
	You can keep it real.
	Both.
	But the girls, I'm not gonna lie.
	Some of the girls on your show, you dumb as fuck.
	You don't say.
	She ain't lying though.
	Can I have some Hennessy and Coke please?
	If I'm being on the panel.
	Today's Christmas day.
	Today's Christmas day.
	Alright, cool.
	Fair enough.
	So the girls piss you off a little bit more than we do.
	Fair enough.
	I'll take that.
	What about you?
	Javier has had like a fight before in the studio with some random girl like fighting.
	I would love to watch that.
	I don't know.
	We have actually posted on my G like a couple of days ago.
	Tell me about it.
	Yeah.
	Oh, oh, like you mean like a full on fist fight where they fought back?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	Yeah.
	A girl hit me and Chris one time.
	Yeah.
	We ain't hit her back.
	I mean, for obvious reasons.
	I don't want to, but no.
	You should never hit a girl.
	Yeah, you should never do it.
	Never do it.
	But yeah, we just don't do it.
	But one time a girl attacked a guest and he full on...
	I stopped her if you watched the clip back.
	I had to hold it back because I knew what was going on.
	She slapped him or some shit.
	She hit him.
	She got upset.
	He believes in equality.
	He's a true feminist.
	He believes in equality.
	Just kidding.
	Anything else?
	No, that's all.
	I just wanted to know that.
	Fair enough.
	For me, so my boyfriend and my brother are big fans of you guys.
	So I watched a little bit.
	I heard a little bit.
	I haven't watched too much, though.
	I just often see like them scrolling on TikTok or something on your videos.
	And I mean, it looks crazy, but I don't know.
	I'm I really love debates and discussing different topics.
	So I find you guys show really cool and interesting.
	So I'm excited to see.
	You can say you hate us.
	I'm not hating on you.
	I think I agree with a lot of...
	You wanted me to hate you guys?
	Nah, I just...
	It just makes more sense.
	I just wanted the girls to be honest.
	Okay, fair enough.
	You have a brother and a dad?
	A boyfriend.
	You said your boyfriend and who else watches?
	My brother.
	Fair enough.
	Miss actor.
	I have two questions.
	The first one is asking for a friend.
	She wants to know, when you guys ghost women, do you feel remorseful after?
	That's actually a damn good question.
	Wait, is this a personal experience?
	No, that's from my friend Sophia back there.
	Oh, okay.
	We're going to put Sophia on camera.
	No, no, no, no.
	You want to take this first, Fresh?
	We've never been asked this before.
	Chris, you start, nigga.
	We need close girls.
	Do you feel bad about it, Chris?
	Um...
	I got what I wanted.
	I smash.
	She had a great time.
	Why feel bad about it?
	I mean, she wanted to see me and stuff like that.
	She did the work.
	So she had a great time.
	I always treat girls right, more or less.
	And yeah, man, if you date with me, I ghost them.
	We smash.
	Simple as that.
	But if I like them, I hit them back up.
	Hey, what's up?
	What's going on?
	But if she's like, you know what?
	I'm being a little weird, then I ghost them.
	Alright.
	Fair enough.
	Fresh?
	Oh, man.
	Chris, that was a great answer.
	I would say I don't ghost girls, per se.
	I just, like, step away.
	I come back every now and then.
	So, like, you know, like, when you do, like, a vacation, come back to work.
	It's like that.
	You know, I just said, well, for a little bit, come back.
	Oh, so you want those guys.
	Gotcha.
	Don't worry.
	My dad taught me well.
	My dad taught me very well.
	Yo, where is he now?
	He's gone.
	My dad's gone.
	He taught me very well, but he'll come back soon.
	It's been, like, what, 30 years?
	31.
	31 years ago?
	Okay, never mind.
	Go on.
	Wow, okay, this dynamic is hilarious.
	Like the audience is like, what the hell is going on?
	Okay, so it depends.
	In general, no.
	And the reason why is if I ghost a girl 9 out of 10 times she did something that I didn't appreciate, approve of, or I don't see anything potential with her.
	And surprisingly, right, it's not if she has sex with me the first time.
	That's actually not a disqualifier.
	One of the biggest disqualifiers is if I find out that, like, she's a hoe, I find out she's annoying, she's rambunctious.
	What is a hoe to you?
	I see we're getting deep here.
	Chris, what is a hoe?
	I'm looking at one.
	I'm talking.
	I'm talking about Yeah, so she exemplifies certain characteristics Where I don't think I can elevate her To any type of serious Status I'm like, alright But normally, the girl's really gotta mess up for me to ghost her.
	I could put her in the sex-only category where I talk to her to be casual.
	But for me to play up ghost her, she had to have messed up.
	And then as far as a hoe, well, it depends on what role I'm going to put her in.
	A girl that's in a casual slot, I'm going to have a little bit more tolerance for her having a promiscuous past than a girl that is what I would consider a main girl.
	A main girl is going to have higher requirements than a casual girl.
	So that leads into my second question, which is for me.
	When you're dating a guy that could be seen as, like, you know, a guy that makes more money than you or a guy that can provide more than you can, what can you provide as a female?
	You know, because, like, what can you provide to a man that has it all?
	Hmm.
	Because in a man and like your guys' situations, you guys might have a lot of like pussy being thrown at you.
	There's BBLs, there's prettier faces, you know?
	So like what can a girl do to like secure her spot as the main girl?
	That's a good question.
	Very good question.
	And I wish more women asked that, dude.
	I really do wish more women asked that.
	She asked really good questions.
	Chris, you want to take it first?
	Special guest of honor?
	Yeah, I mean, just know what the guy does, man.
	Know what he likes and just fill in the gaps.
	Don't be annoying.
	For example, if he streams, hey, listen, do you need some coffee for your stream?
	Do you need some tea?
	What do you need?
	Do you need to order some products?
	Just be that Girl who fills in the gap, right?
	Some girls, what they like to do is, you know, oh, you stream too much or you do this too much and they want to be...
	They complain.
	They complain a lot.
	So, I mean, for the most part, just fill in what he needs because at the end of the day, guys, you know, they fight the world every day and when they come home, then you're like, they're fighting this bitch.
	Not you personally, but the girl next to them is like, what the fuck?
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, at the end of the day, if we already fucked you, then what else can you do to provide that niche?
	Yeah, so Chris brought up a very good point.
	I think after sex, how do you maintain the guy other than just that?
	And for the most part, I think girls think, well, you know what?
	I gave him pussy, so I'm good to go.
	However, like you said earlier, if you have an ounce of care or consideration, what's he doing?
	What's his business?
	What is he about?
	And if you can actually add value to his life, which means, let's say he has a business, like Chris was saying earlier, you make sure you add in a lot of value to his business, or for example, what he needs, it'll be a headache, it'll be a bother or a nag, then he's like, you know what?
	She's cool, it's great times with her, and it's no stress, I have peace, I'm gonna keep her around.
	So, I would say that goes a long way.
	And then Myron Gaines.
	So, the biggest thing is to differentiate yourself from other women.
	Most women are what I call interchangeable components to a man's spoke wheel.
	Your goal is to become an indispensable spoke in the cog wheel that's irreplaceable by another part.
	And what I mean by that is, yeah, sure, if you try to put another piece in there, it might work, but it won't work at the same optimality.
	And I think that's on the woman to come in and have those critical thinking skills and be like, okay...
	This guy needs this done.
	I see gaps here, et cetera, just like Chris was saying.
	And it's your job to basically figure it out and do it without him telling you.
	Like, there's something crazy about a girl that can, like, figure out what a problem is and make your life easier so you don't have to think about certain things so that you can go from, like, maybe 90% performance to 93% performance or 95%.
	Or if he was already at 100, like a guy that you're talking about that has everything, he's performing at 101 or 102.
	And when you get to the highest levels, that one or two percentage means a lot.
	Right?
	So I think that's where it comes in, where the more successful the guy, the more he has, the harder you have to work to figure out what he doesn't have.
	And I think if women did that more often, they'd be able to keep men around.
	But the problem is that a lot of girls come into a relationship like, okay, what can this guy do for me?
	And guys will play that game.
	They'll offer you the world.
	I'll fly you out, blah, blah, blah.
	Get what they want.
	Boom.
	Rug pull you and just leave.
	But if you're able to come in, add value, it's like, damn, I can't really operate at optimality without this chick by my side.
	That's how you get brought on the trips.
	That's how you get introduced to his friends.
	That's how you get put into certain networks, etc.
	And another thing, too, you gotta accept that he's gonna fuck other bitches.
	That's a dark one that no one wants to accept.
	So not only do you have to be an interchangeable piece and irreplaceable, you now have to share him with women that are replaceable.
	But why, though?
	Why?
	Yeah.
	Because men don't climb the ladder of success to have sex with one girl.
	That's just an unfortunate reality.
	It's very difficult for a man to earn his value, and once he does, the last thing he wants to do is have it to just one girl.
	But then when you do the same thing, you lose value in his eyes.
	Yeah, because women's value comes from sexual temperance and preserving their value, not giving it to a bunch of random guys.
	That's where women's value comes from.
	And here's the thing.
	I've said it before.
	It's a sucky double standard, but it's a double standard that actually benefits women more because at least you get the value up front and it's up to you how you choose to spend it.
	Men have to get that value down the road and it's not even guaranteed.
	So if the guy has to work to earn that value, He's not going to want to have one girl.
	Most successful men almost always have multiple women.
	Maybe they'll have one main chick and a couple mistresses.
	Maybe they'll have multiple wives.
	But men almost always, when they're successful, have multiple women.
	So I tell girls, look, it's raining outside.
	Here's an umbrella.
	It's up to you if you want to go out with the umbrella and get wet or not.
	But I'd rather arm women with the facts and let them know that if you want a successful man, nine out of ten times, you're going to have to share him.
	So can I ask you a question kind of going off of that?
	Sure.
	Is it possible for a guy to say that he loves his girlfriend, this, that, and a third?
	Y'all been, well, I wouldn't say girlfriend, but let's say like y'all are really connecting and you kind of get to that level of like, oh, I love you.
	But let's say y'all are ready to really commit to that.
	Is it possible for a guy to say, I love you to a girl, but still go and fuck other bitches?
	Yes.
	A thousand percent.
	Unfortunately, yes.
	Yeah, and I know for a lot of women, it's very difficult to fathom because for you guys, your sexuality typically is tied to some type of emotional connection.
	Most of the time, some girls can sport fuck, but most women can't.
	So for you guys, it's like you can't fathom, like, how can I tell this man I love him and go fuck another guy?
	Men are capable of doing that because we can separate...
	Sexual desire and lust with emotional connection with one woman.
	We can absolutely separate it because we're physical.
	You guys are more emotionally sound.
	Like, you know, they always say, you know, women fall in love through the ears, men fall in love with their eyes.
	That's why women wear makeup and men lie.
	That's just how it is.
	So for men, we're very visual.
	We can have sex with a girl and literally go back to our girlfriends.
	I mean, I'll be honest, I'm in an open relationship.
	I appreciate my girl more when I go fuck other bitches.
	I genuinely appreciate my main girls way more when I come back to them because I'm like, damn, these other girls are fucking useless.
	How many girls do you have?
	Confidential classmate.
	I have a question.
	Why don't you make her the main one then?
	Like, make it official if you appreciate her that much.
	No, she is the main one.
	It is official.
	But you said you're already fucking on other girls.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	You have man and you have sides and you have, yeah, that's just how it goes.
	Wait, so if you're in a relationship for like, let's say like you started dating junior year of high school and you're going into your like sophomore, junior year of college, like you together for real, for real.
	But your girl is expected to be okay if your oncologist is fucking these bitches in the dorm or doing whatever, and then you go back and like, oh no, but I still love you.
	Oh no, I'm not telling you to tolerate this from any guy.
	Oh, okay.
	I was just- Yeah, you gotta tolerate this from a guy that's worth tolerating it from.
	That's why her specific question was like, how do you deal with a guy that has it all?
	Well, number one, be an entertainer.
	Interchangeable part.
	A non-interchangeable part.
	You need to be irreplaceable, unlike the other girls who are interchangeable components.
	And then you need to accept the fact that he's probably going to want to go ahead and exercise the options that he's worked so hard to attain.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	If he's broken, not a leader, if he's just going to be a regular average guy, then obviously you don't want to make that serious because it won't last anyway.
	But I tell women too, average guy's going to cheat on you as well a lot of the times.
	Yeah, regardless.
	Like, men are typically only as faithful as their options.
	What if your options are better than the main girl?
	Let's say your main girl has it all, like everything you're looking for, and she provides everything to the table, like fills in the gaps.
	Men don't care about that.
	However, but then what if the other girl that you're fucking eats ass, and the other bitch don't eat ass?
	You feel me?
	You like the side bitch because she eats ass, but the main bitch don't.
	That's a stretch, you lady.
	That's not a stretch.
	Guys like freaky bitches.
	So if your side bitch is freakier than the main bitch.
	You made a good point.
	Guys will cheat with the freaky bitch, but the wife, the quiet bitch.
	Right?
	Pretty much.
	So even though she's like sexually more appealing and more like fun to be around, they'll never take out in public like, oh, this is my girl.
	So that level of like sexuality and level of like, I guess like lust is great to just have fun with, but never take serious.
	Wait, question.
	Do you eat ass?
	What?
	No, I would never eat ass.
	I know a lot of girls that eat ass, though.
	I can't compare to a bitch that eats ass, you feel me?
	That's what he likes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but I think the biggest thing is to understand that, you know, what a guy commits to versus what a guy finds sexually arousing and what he deals with sexually are two different things.
	A lot of the times you're better off being on the I'm getting committed to side and the component I'm getting to get on the committed side is having some type of sexual temperance.
	If a guy can bring you around his family or his friends and not be embarrassed, that's a good sign.
	But if you do all this freaky shit in the bedroom and you don't want to bring you around his friends or he doesn't claim you publicly...
	Now, I am curious, though, to hear the older women speak on this.
	So, from your experience, what do you think?
	Do you think guys are going to be faithful to you at a higher level, or not really, from your experience?
	I think it's how you train them.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, what?
	Train them?
	I mean, I think it's what you tolerate.
	Misogony.
	So, you train your men?
	I mean, I don't train them, but I mean, I'm not going to...
	I mean, she's older, so she...
	I am older, yeah.
	A lot older.
	In my experience, what you allow proliferates.
	And, I mean, if you cut off certain behaviors, they stop.
	So, I guess the question is, what would you say would allow you to say, you know what, alright, I'll look past that.
	Or is that a non-negotiable?
	Is sexual fidelity a non-negotiable for you?
	It's a non-negotiable if that's what the deal is.
	Like, if we came into the deal, this is the deal.
	Like, I'm not fucking around, you're not fucking around, this is the deal.
	But then you break the deal, the deal's over.
	But if you come into it and say...
	You're not gonna be the only one.
	And I agree to that.
	Well, then, you know, don't get mad at that.
	Understandable.
	That's fair.
	Okay, okay.
	And I agree with that, right?
	I do agree that men should be honest enough.
	I'm not gonna be monogamous.
	That's how we approach it.
	But most men are not gonna do that.
	Like, it's just not gonna happen.
	Because girls can't handle the truth.
	They can't, yeah.
	But I do agree with what you said about, you know, it gets thrown around a lot, the term high-value men.
	But I think if you're a high-value woman, if you, you know, let's face it, a man is there to protect and provide.
	If you don't need the provide, if you can provide for yourself, and I'm not talking about, like, a Gucci bag, Chanel bag.
	I'm talking about, like, provide me safety, provide me something biologically I need.
	Yeah.
	If you can't do those two things, then you're worthless to me.
	And so I'm not going to put up with you, like, fucking around.
	So, I'll give you my controversial take of what I'm about to say right now, and especially as an educated woman like yourself, you might not like what I'm going to say.
	I genuinely don't think there's such a thing as a high-value woman, because all women have value, so therefore it would be kind of ridiculous to say that there's high-value women out there.
	And what I mean by that is, a woman can only claim she's high-value if she has a high-value man that cosigns her.
	She can only become high value by taking a high value man's last name.
	Because becoming high value is very difficult to attain.
	And I argue that all women have value.
	Not like men.
	There's a lot of low value men.
	There's some like mid-level men.
	And then there's some high value men.
	But all women to some degree have value.
	Because a woman that's average can absolutely bat five levels above her and get a high value man.
	But it can't work the other way around.
	Since those sexual dynamics are so polarized, I don't think there's such thing as a high-value woman unless there's a high-value man cosigning her.
	I disagree.
	Okay, sure.
	Because some people think that Andrew Tate is a high-value man, but I wouldn't consider him to be a high-value man.
	So if he was to cosign me as a high-value woman, it would mean nothing to me because I don't see him in that light.
	Okay.
	Hurrah!
	Fair assessment, but this is where I disagree with you.
	Being high-value doesn't necessarily deal with morality.
	Does he have status?
	Does he have respect from peers?
	Does he have respect?
	I mean, in this case, he has respect worldwide.
	He has financial success, right?
	We can take it a step further.
	Train martial artist, four-time kickboxing world champion.
	On paper, he's absolutely high value.
	Now, and any woman that gets with him is going to acquire the take last name and be high value as a byproduct of it.
	So though he might not be your cup of tea, it's pretty irrefutable that he is a high value man.
	I'm just curious.
	Because he's high value in the metrics that make a man have value in the world.
	So a man's value is 1000% determined by the impact that they create in the world.
	A man's last name only carries value if he's able to change other people's lives to some degree.
	That's why people that are lawyers, doctors, celebrities to a degree, etc.
	They have value and status from their accomplishments and that is where their value comes from.
	We respect them, etc.
	So men, we acquire value much differently than women do.
	We acquire it through status.
	You guys acquire it through beauty.
	And then being able to get a man that has status.
	Now, some women are able to go ahead and get status on their own.
	You have three PhDs, if I'm not mistaken, right?
	Educated, etc.
	But unfortunately...
	That's the equivalent to a man being extremely metrosexual, extremely good-looking, but broke.
	Because even though he's attractive and he's beautiful, that is not a commodity that women seek.
	Just like a woman that has education, status, and income, that is not a commodity that men generally seek.
	No, you're right.
	Because in Miami, I just moved to Miami.
	I mean, literally, you can go to any store in the mall.
	Forever 21, H&M, Zara.
	The women working at the cash register literally are, like, the most beautiful women you've ever seen in your life.
	I'm like, are you, like, a Victoria's Secret, like, Brazilian supermodel?
	She's high value.
	She's not educated.
	Well, she's not high value unless she gets a high value man.
	Well, she will, though, looking like that.
	Yeah, if she can.
	If she can land him and get his last name, because they could get fucked.
	But can she get his last name?
	Yeah.
	Here's the thing.
	I'm really happy that I have you guys on the panel because you guys are higher IQ Let me tell you from experience of being here.
	Most women are absolutely retarded in Miami I can't have discussions like this trust me You're very educated well-spoken, etc.
	retarded in miami i can't have discussions like this trust me you're very educated well-spoken etc able to articulate your points you from a cognitive level are better than most women however a lot of these women that you're way smarter than will beat you with meeting to get one of these guys because they're more that might be more attractive or younger because men typically don't care about a woman's education or status even though you work really hard to acquire these things these are male metrics of success unfortunately which is why i tell success women all the time is like that's great it's awesome you can have a great conversation with a guy
	he might be intrigued but are you going to beat out the 21 year old model it's gonna be tough So then how does that add value to the 21-year-old model?
	Because you said the other guy has to, like, co-sign for her.
	So if that's who he chooses, but yet she doesn't have, like, no IQ or no education, then how does that make her a high-value woman?
	Well, he can make her into his woman and make her the best girlfriend for him.
	That's why leadership is so important for men.
	Look at it this way.
	Like, Donald Trump.
	Everyone been know who Donald Trump is.
	But who...
	Did we know Mrs.
	Trump until this man was president?
	Like, let's be real.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But kind of like...
	I'll take it a step further.
	Real quick.
	Just because you just mentioned a good point.
	Monica Lewinsky became famous off of sucking a high-value man's dick.
	Think about that for a second.
	Think about that for a second.
	That happened almost 30 years ago.
	We still know her name to this day.
	Intern, 18 years old.
	She got her status simply from sucking a high-value man's dick.
	If that does not prove that women acquire status through men, I don't know what else does.
	To add to your point, Kim Kardashian.
	Ray J. I hate it first.
	Famous.
	And real quick, you considered Andrew not high-value.
	So who would you consider high-value?
	I like Drake.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So why do you like Drake though?
	Drake?
	No, I feel like I relate to his music.
	So the things that he says, even if he doesn't write it, you know, but I feel like I relate.
	He's a Scorpio, I'm a Scorpio.
	Drake?
	Drake?
	You fuck with him being high value because you like him.
	That's a very opinionated statement.
	Back to the Andrew Tate thing, this is not shame, keep in mind.
	Anyone can go anywhere and say, oh yeah, Andrew Tate.
	It may be shit, it may be really good, but if I were to go to the streets of Orlando and say, who the fuck is that?
	So that's kind of what he's saying, like, high value.
	In other words, it doesn't mean people have to like him.
	It doesn't mean people have to hate him.
	Like, that's what he's known for.
	Whatever he's known for is putting his fucking name out and getting him paid.
	Extreme example, and I really hate to say this.
	It actually pains me to say this.
	Jeffrey Epstein on paper is a high value man.
	Even though he's a deplorable individual, he is a high value man on paper.
	Because when we're talking about high value, we're not talking about morality.
	And that's arguable or whatever, but when you look at status, income, even though he got his status through some bullshit, and money, you can argue on paper that he is so like, not to liken Drake or Tate to him, but I'm just showing that as an extreme example of like, high value really doesn't have to do with morality.
	Because you're going from an opinion standpoint, I don't like Andrew Tate, or I don't consider him a high value man because I might not like his views.
	But Drake and Tate are both high value.
	And I would argue Tate has more of a positive impact on the world than Drake does.
	I mean, Drake hasn't really saved guys from offering themselves or anything like that.
	If you notice, it's how he makes her feel.
	So that's what Drake and her values status.
	Yeah, but objectively speaking, both Drake and Andrew Tate are high value men, but I would argue that Tate has more impact from a positive standpoint than Drake does.
	Drake is a musician.
	Cool.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, you got me.
	I'm in my feelings.
	But Andrew Tate's keeping guys from killing themselves.
	Yeah.
	I like them both.
	Isn't that morality though?
	He's doing stuff somewhat moral because you're saying a positive impact.
	So it is moral in a sense.
	I mean to a degree but he's creating more impact on the world overall.
	Yeah, but somebody who has money and donates it and is charitable, right?
	I would consider that more of a high-value man who just takes all of his money and doesn't, I guess, share it or put it towards anything positive.
	Yeah, and that's why I said it's arguable.
	It is debatable.
	Epstein donated to charities.
	Unfortunately, he didn't.
	Even though it was all kind of a scheme to get the money back, he donated to charities.
	Chris, who would you consider to be a high-value man?
	I mean, a man who actually creates value into the world, he can raise his family properly and just make sure that his lifestyle is on point.
	Because at the end of the day, if you're struggling paying bills as a man, then are you really high value?
	So if you have a family and you're...
	It depends on what goals you have.
	If you're actually acquiring those goals and you're happy, making six fakes, able to feed those you care about, Isn't that high value to you?
	You got some girls, like, for example, some girls go, you know, my high value guy is, he makes six figures a year.
	And then some girl down on South Beach can say, oh, high value guy is a millionaire, you know?
	You know what I'm saying?
	So it all depends on what's going on.
	But if you're high value, man, you got to be able to take care of your circle.
	Yeah, and I think a big part of being iValue also is having respect from your peers.
	That's a big one, right?
	Do other men want to be you?
	Do other men respect you?
	Are your accolades known to others without you having to say it?
	Does your reputation speak for itself in a positive way to a degree?
	I'm curious real quick though, would you consider your current guy high value?
	I would.
	And it's based on morals and values.
	We have really aligned morals and values.
	Where is he now?
	He's in LA. Okay, doing what?
	Right now, he's probably...
	I don't know.
	Question for you.
	If that's the premise and you're happy with this, and I think you are, can he cheat?
	I would hope that he wouldn't.
	But if he cheated, would you leave?
	I would strongly consider it.
	I mean, we'd have to renegotiate our arrangement.
	I mean, okay.
	And I think that intimacy is precious, and it's sacred, and I think that...
	Oh, he's fucking...
	Sorry, it's a daddy and everything, but he's out in LA. That's not her dad, bro.
	That's not her dad, bro.
	Oh!
	Her dad was in Paris, yeah.
	Does that answer what you had before?
	Yeah, that's it.
	And Andrew does donate to charity too.
	He does.
	Ukraine, other charities as well.
	Full disclosure, he's a friend of ours, which is why we're a bit biased, but he's a personal friend of ours.
	Shout out to the Tate brothers.
	We all know those charges of bullshit.
	Any questions, comments?
	Do you want to break it at the very beginning or not really?
	I don't have any, except for the fact that preaching and showing fitness, it's called Fresh and Fit, right?
	And people say, oh, it's so terrible.
	They hate women.
	It's like, oh, that's so stupid.
	I mean, they never say that, ever.
	I was on another podcast yesterday, and they were like, oh, that show is crazy.
	And I'm like...
	Well, does it have to be?
	Like, don't you control that?
	You know, I think you control your own emotions.
	But I love that you guys actually talk about fitness because it's one of the most important things in the world and health is wealth.
	And, you know, I actually used to be 300 pounds.
	Wow.
	I've lost over 100 pounds now.
	Wow.
	What are your thoughts?
	I saw, excuse me, I saw a study like a couple days ago that there's more obese women than obese men.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Damn.
	Oh, it's 100% true.
	And I also, did you know that when women get into relationships, they stop trying.
	And when they get married, most women actually are the ones who end up gaining weight.
	I believe you.
	When they get married, they just stop trying.
	What are the reasons for that, in your opinion?
	Oh, because they're comfortable.
	Oh, now I've got the money.
	Now I'm in the contract.
	He can't leave me and he has to be loyal to me so I can go around eating junk food and not trying.
	Have they admitted this to you when they come over to...
	Obviously, I don't want you to name names or anything, but have you heard these confessions when they come to you?
	Oh my gosh, yes.
	I have heard these things.
	I hear them all the time.
	In school, they would even be like, Penelope, you should keep eating junk food.
	You're beautiful.
	I keep eating pizza and ice cream.
	It's so good for you.
	Like, they knew I was disgusting and ugly, yet they still told me to eat ice cream.
	You have bad friends.
	I'm sorry.
	You know why?
	They want you to lose.
	They want me to lose and they didn't want me to have, like, they wanted to be bisexual.
	They wanted me to be transgender.
	It was crazy.
	What the heck?
	Let me ask you, would it be fair, because this is a controversial point that we've talked about on the podcast, but it'd be good to get your perspective on this.
	Would you say that women have a really bad habit of enabling self-sabotaging behavior in their peers?
	Yes.
	And they do a really great job of enabling other women to do terrible things so that they don't get their men.
	Women sabotage each other so they don't get high-value men.
	When I got into a really healthy relationship, that's more on the traditional side, all the women hated me and stopped being friends with me.
	They were like, this is terrible for you.
	Get out of this.
	This is toxic.
	And I'm like...
	I mean, I'm like literally waiting for marriage.
	So excited about my future.
	What are some of the terms that they told you?
	They told me he was toxic.
	They told me I was being weird and trad.
	I was trying to be trad and that I was a bad girl and I shouldn't fall for that.
	What happened to my career?
	Why am I not being a boss, babe?
	And I was like, what do you mean?
	They're like, you've lost a lot of weight.
	I don't know if that's good for you.
	Maybe you should try to gain the weight back.
	I was like, oh my gosh, who are you guys promoting this?
	Gaining the weight back is crazy.
	You look great, by the way.
	You look amazing.
	Congratulations on that because obviously weight loss is always very difficult.
	We live in a very...
	Especially for women, it kind of sucks because we rarely tell women the truth, especially when it comes to their body because of their feelings.
	We have this whole...
	Body positivity movement for females.
	And I think it's very destructive, which makes sense as to why there's more fat women than fat men.
	Yep.
	Because at the end of the day, a fat woman can still find a guy.
	And they fall.
	They're emotions.
	They are so easily emotionally manipulated.
	The body positivity movement almost killed me.
	I literally would go on my phone.
	It's all women preaching, love your body.
	You're beautiful just the way you are.
	It doesn't matter if you're fat.
	You're healthy being overweight.
	Don't lose weight.
	If you lose weight, you have an eating disorder.
	And I fell for it.
	And I stayed in my bed and I ate junk food.
	Isn't it crazy?
	One of the biggest advocates, Lizzo, got caught fat shaming her own dancers!
	And I was like, Shawty is fat too!
	She's crazy!
	If Lizzo's watching this, I want to help her.
	I really want to help her lose the way and inspire millions of her fans to do the same because she's not inspiring them to do that and I want to inspire them.
	Lizzo, if you're watching, get off the couch, you fat.
	Okay, never mind.
	I have a question, actually, for kind of like...
	For us?
	Okay.
	Before you do, because I just have one more thing for her.
	If you can name, and your mom can jump in on this too, because you guys probably are dealing with hundreds of women at this point.
	What would you say are the three biggest contributors as to why women are obese in today's day and age?
	The three biggest.
	First, I'll say body positivity movement.
	Plays a massive role.
	You can give the other one.
	Emotional dysregulation.
	Can you go deeper on that?
	Women have feelings and we express them in destructive ways.
	We don't have tools to channel that feeling.
	What's the name of that term again?
	Emotional dysregulation.
	We don't understand how to regulate our emotions.
	To actually use them for good or to channel them through physical fitness, for example.
	Different types of mindset techniques, even spiritual techniques, finding God.
	Whatever it is that's going to work.
	We have to find ways to empower ourselves with tools to regulate our emotions so they don't tangle our lives, our relationships, and our health.
	Question on that.
	Would you say that you've noticed less emotional dysregulation with women that have positive masculine influences in their life?
	Let's say a father, a brother, or a couple of brothers to tell them you're being fat as fuck.
	What are you doing?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Do you notice?
	Okay.
	I do.
	Unless there's an overbearing father who's just doting all the time, then there's another tangle there.
	Okay.
	That's like an emotional incestuous thing.
	So does that mitigate, I guess, the risk of obesity a bit by having that masculine authority in there?
	I believe so.
	A little bit?
	Yeah.
	I don't have enough anecdotal evidence to say yes definitively, but I think so.
	Okay.
	I've noticed brothers tend to be more honest with their sister if she's obese versus like a sister.
	And then what's the third one?
	What would you say the third one is?
	I think people don't know how to eat.
	Doctors don't tell them.
	Parents aren't teaching them.
	Schools are also not teaching them.
	So people are putting their health in the hands of prepared foods in restaurants and the salts and the oils and genetically modified foods and the herbicides, fungicides, pesticides.
	It's a problem.
	We have an issue within the industrial food complex and we're in the addictive brain.
	So it's an issue.
	And my last question, and then we'll turn it to you.
	With the body positivity, you said that's the number one contributor to women being obese.
	Yes.
	What is the average woman overweight by?
	10 pounds, 20 pounds, 30 pounds, 40 pounds?
	35.
	Was that?
	35.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, that's what I read.
	The average American woman weighs 170 pounds, right?
	Yeah.
	That's correct.
	I thought it was going to be cheeseburgers.
	But the girls that are coming to you, 35, you would say on average?
	Oh, no.
	The girls that are coming to us have more.
	Way more.
	75 or more.
	80 to 100 pounds.
	Okay.
	So 35 is over, but what's coming to you is like way above double.
	Way above.
	Way above.
	And I will have to say the body positivity movement, also family component with that.
	Because family will encourage the eating behaviors.
	Brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, grandmas.
	Oh, it's okay, sweetie.
	Eat all the food.
	And they kind of like join it.
	Like it's almost like a cult.
	It's almost like a cult.
	Your medical doctor, your psychotherapist.
	Oh, don't talk about it.
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay, I gotta say this then.
	I gotta ask this.
	What is the number one motivating factor for them to come to you?
	Obviously, they're double the average overweight number.
	What is the number one contributing factor to them coming to you guys finally?
	Double chin.
	They're 30 plus?
	Double chin.
	Is it age?
	Is it maybe they're sitting back on the market?
	No, they're scared.
	They're scared they're going to die.
	They've got diabetes.
	It's impending doom.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I mean, my mother died, her third cause of death, severe obesity at age 59.
	And it's quite serious for us.
	Okay.
	We really want to end this generational eating compulsion.
	Okay.
	Okay, so for you guys, it's okay.
	I thought it would maybe be vanity reasons, but it's literally impending death is the primary reason they come to hell.
	What's the average age that they're coming to you guys?
	Oh, um, 35?
	35?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I told you, right, man.
	I told you.
	Hail Mary's, man.
	The wall.
	I just said, bro, this is good for people to ask on this, because I've always talked about female obesity, but it's great to have women that deal with that every day.
	I thought it was just like cheesy burgers that made them fat, but I guess more than that.
	It's Uber Eats, man, because now it's Uber Eats, there's stuff that you can order, so these girls, they're boss babes, they have money, and they don't have time to cook, right?
	More or less.
	They don't have time to cook.
	And so they order Uber Eats, and then they're like, oh, okay, you know what?
	Let me just order some, you know what I'm saying, though?
	Another follow-up.
	Are these higher-earning women that are this obese?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Nope.
	And it costs money to be fat.
	Like, it's really expensive to be fat.
	It's really expensive.
	I mean, you rack up a bill.
	Like, I used to charge your bill.
	I'm like, Penelope, it's 600 bucks.
	I'm like, what are you doing?
	And I hid pizzas under my bed and my closet and the trash.
	I spent hundreds of dollars per week on junk food that I hid from you.
	Damn.
	That's awesome, man, that you guys are doing that.
	Christine's your program.
	Join Step It Up.
	Join Step It Up.
	All right, sorry.
	You got something?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so kind of going back Yeah, kind of going back to like the beginning of this conversation when it comes to like these married women like you see all over social media like Stereotypically, skinny guys like bigger girls or bigger girls like skinny guys because of the dick.
	I'm being so dead ass, you know what I mean?
	Because skinny guys like...
	They're gonna like the booty wave.
	You know what I'm saying?
	They're hitting it from the back.
	There's a lot happening.
	You know what I mean?
	So a lot of guys find it so sexually appealing that you always see these big women in happy relationships and I'm single as fuck.
	Let me explain that to you.
	Like I said before, men are only as low as their options.
	Men also like their options.
	And what I mean by this is, if you take those same skinny guys, and I gave them a Lamborghini, $2 million, and some fame, they'll be fucking models tomorrow, and they will never talk to a fat girl again.
	Look at Moneybag, yo.
	Google his prom date, guys, and then look at the women that he's dealing with now.
	Men's taste changes and adapts and improves as their value improves.
	So men typically say they like, because it's a cope, The type of women that they can attract.
	But the reality is if they can get a more attractive woman, they will.
	Men universally prefer not to be with fat women in most situations.
	You ever heard that saying, women fuck who they want, men fuck who they can?
	That's pretty much the same thing for your example.
	But also, I'll say this though.
	African niggas are different.
	They love hippos, man.
	That might be a slow Tuesday, but like, bro, in general, they're going to take the model.
	Like, they're going to take the model to be more consistent with, to show around their friends and stuff.
	You might get the fatty on a slow Tuesday and no one sees.
	But yeah, men typically will sit there and cope and say, oh, I like this type of girl, but you'll see directly that that woman aligns with what he can actually attract.
	So guys left you for a fat girl.
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
	Don't get it.
	They left me for an ugly girl.
	Ugly?
	Yeah.
	I mean, my ex left me.
	He cheated on me with my ex best friend.
	And she was fat.
	She was fat.
	Like, bro, I'm 117.
	She's like legit like 150, 160.
	You didn't go hard enough, man.
	She had a fat ass?
	What's the difference?
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I hate her.
	And like, if you say this, you look like a fucking fridge.
	I'm sorry.
	No, bro.
	I don't know.
	We don't support bashing women, okay?
	Fast shaming for us.
	Yeah, no, but she's different, bro.
	I mean, she got deported to Colombia.
	Oh, so she's Colombian.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	She doesn't look Colombian.
	When I broke up with him, I called her.
	I was like, yo, we broke up.
	And then she went to his house, gave him chocolate, and they just started dating.
	Chocolate?
	She was looking only for the papers because he's white.
	Damn.
	She got the papers though.
	Congratulations.
	Oh, she did?
	Huh?
	She got papers from homeboy?
	Yeah, from my ex.
	Yeah, because she got deported to Colombia.
	She had to go in like six months.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So she's back?
	Yeah, she's still here.
	I don't know where I'm at.
	Yo, your boyfriend's an L, bro.
	I'm saying.
	Nigga cheated with the fat one.
	I get papers?
	Yeah.
	Tell this nigga what he is, bro.
	What, him?
	Yeah, him.
	We're on Twitch and shit, so I can't really say it, man.
	You're on Twitch.
	You're on Facebook and Twitter.
	Let's see on Rumble for now.
	No, man.
	He is a simp.
	Sorry Mo, but at the end of the day, man, he just, you know, should probably get a good head.
	Good attention.
	So, something that you probably wasn't giving him.
	Oh shit.
	Because at the end of the day, if a guy is looking elsewhere for sex, and you're like, you know what, I'm doing this, because how long have you been dating before you two?
	I didn't fuck him.
	We lasted a month.
	Exactly.
	That's right.
	I didn't really like him.
	Yeah, so...
	Nah, hold on.
	He liked him or you...
	Okay, he was my best friend, and I was like, okay, we can try it.
	The friend zone.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah, we can try it, because I liked him.
	So, your fat friend needed the green card, so she tried all right the first day.
	Yeah, she thought she was talking about...
	So, she's like, hey...
	Yo, she said chocolates?
	Yeah, chocolates?
	No!
	She knows how to use the pussy.
	She knows how to use that.
	Well, she's in America, so she definitely does.
	But at the end of the day...
	See, that makes sense now, because you didn't even smash the dude.
	She's like, yo, she's smashing me?
	All right.
	I mean, listen...
	He was a virgin, too, though, so I don't know.
	If a girl...
	It doesn't matter, virgin.
	Yeah.
	I mean...
	So, imagine...
	Okay, that makes sense then.
	Because, once again, in the version, chocolate...
	Hey, what's a pussy too?
	For sure!
	Let's do it!
	A man has to eat.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, if he sees a dying hippo, you know, a fat hippo, he's going to eat it.
	Wow.
	You know, it's a nice gazelle, you know, like your gazelle, like you're in shape, you know?
	And if the hippo is like almost dying, he's going to eat it.
	He's a lion.
	He has to eat something.
	Wait a second.
	You want to roll it loud?
	Yeah.
	yeah man she bones the trees man wait wait wait wait hold on that was like months ago yeah but i don't want to take it bro wow she i like it too much now a lot of girls do that though they go to edc or music festivals and they keep it on but for months yeah okay what about you man Any assumptions, questions, comments you want to bring up at the beginning?
	No, I don't really have any.
	What were you told before coming on the show then?
	I just got a message yesterday night because I teach yoga and do these nutrition and integrative health podcasts all the time.
	I just glanced at it like Fit and Fresh.
	He said number one podcast.
	I'm like, okay.
	They're going to ask me about yoga, Pilates, fitness, anti-aging, something, whatever.
	And I'm like, okay.
	Then I go to bed, wake up, and I'm like, well...
	I asked him, you know, like, do I need to prepare?
	Like, what topic do you want me to speak to?
	He's like, no, no, nothing.
	Just, you know, men-women dynamics.
	I'm like, okay.
	Easy.
	What should we get into?
	No, but one thing I do want to say, just being the older person on here, I do feel like this whole, like, being bigger, okay thing is a generational thing.
	Like, back in my day, I grew up in Southern California.
	You didn't fucking go to the beach with a bikini on if you were fat.
	You didn't do it.
	No one did it.
	It was not acceptable.
	Keep the shit covered.
	It wasn't cool.
	Like, my mom was a model.
	I grew up like, you know, literally, and I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but she, like, if I went to eat something that wasn't, you know, in fifth grade, she'd be like, no, not cool.
	Don't eat that.
	You know, you already had pizza this week.
	Chill it out.
	And I feel like today that's just not, you know, the way it is.
	Like every, you go to South Beach, it doesn't matter if you're 300 pounds, you have a bikini on.
	No one gives a shit, you know, and it's like, I feel like it's numb.
	It's like a callus.
	I'm so used to seeing everyone being so fat.
	I'm not trying to be an asshole about this.
	We've gotten to this point where it's literally okay to just walk around 300 pounds.
	In the end, they're going to drop dead and not even know they did anything wrong because they didn't even know they were that fat.
	They didn't know it was that dangerous.
	They know.
	They know.
	There's a...
	Since you guys want to get acknowledged so much, there's an influx of guys that are basically leaving the United States and going to other countries abroad to find women, right?
	They call themselves Passmore Bros, which I understand.
	It's a viable solution to the problem here in the United States where a lot of women aren't, you know, feminine.
	It's a viable one, though, but they're not feminine, they're not attractive, and the obesity problem.
	And it's funny because whenever these guys, because we're friends with a couple of these guys, they leave the United States for six months, maybe a year at a time, and they come back and they're always shocked.
	And how many fat women they see.
	They're literally shocked.
	They're like, what the hell?
	Now I remember why I left in the first place.
	And it's like, nonstop.
	They leave, gone for six months, come back to do a podcast with us or something.
	Dude, what's up with all the fat women?
	And I keep forgetting too.
	And it hits me too, a little bit, being here in Miami.
	Because Miami I wouldn't consider as like the United States.
	It's kind of like a Latin America light, right?
	Because we have a strong Hispanic culture here.
	Hispanic women tend to keep themselves in better shape a lot of the times, especially from Colombia, Venezuela.
	Because they understand that their beauty...
	Is their main commodity, etc.
	But once you leave South Florida, you know, you leave Miami, especially you go to Central Florida, etc.
	You go to Texas.
	You see that obesity rear, it's ugly, and even me, I'm like, God damn, give me back to Miami.
	This is terrible.
	But yeah, I mean, it's really bad, especially it's okay if you're like, I still think it's unacceptable if you're a fat guy, but you can at least make up with it if you may have money and status.
	As a female, if you're fat, it's like, dude, you're literally shooting yourself in the foot.
	cities or like places in America, but America itself, like, I feel like, I'm sorry, I can't remember your name, Mamas, but like, I feel like someone like, okay.
	Merch.
	It's okay, just say you think.
	Yeah, I guess.
	So, let's say you go to France, for example, and you order a large Coke.
	They're going to look at you sideways like, the fuck is a large?
	You know what I mean?
	Even in Europe, you go there and it is very rare to see obese people.
	I went on a date with this guy from...
	I don't know, somewhere in the UK. It wasn't even just the fact that the date itself was so culturally different.
	Bro's eating fries and a burger with a knife and fork, but he's like, oh, I don't want a water.
	I don't need something to drink.
	And like, oh yeah, maybe I'm a little thirsty, and this man gets a cup this size.
	And he's like, the fuck is wrong with you Americans?
	And I'm like...
	You can't even say, like, it's just Americans.
	It's just so socially acceptable because I feel like America is sensitive as fuck.
	Because, like, decades ago, literally, like you were saying, like, generationally, you're not going to want a fat-ass wife, respectfully.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it was so normal to have no ass.
	And now it's like everyone wants wide hips.
	Everyone wants a fat ass.
	And then people are like, oh, I'm going to eat more.
	It's going to go straight to my thighs.
	Yeah.
	Okay, period.
	I think you mean you want the slim waist with the fat ass, but a lot of girls kind of cheat it and they just get fat and then they get a fat ass as a byproduct.
	And they glorify it and they glamorize and they're like, you're beautiful, girl.
	Like, you're gorgeous.
	Every guy loves a little tummy.
	No, I'm not saying now.
	I'm talking about, like, we're speaking in, like, 60s, 70s, 80s.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, now, that's what I'm saying is very normalized.
	And people, like, like you were saying, the body positivity movement, it's like, oh, yeah, we need to accept everybody.
	Inclusivity and all this shit.
	So it's like, They're monetizing words and they're doing things to accommodate everybody.
	But at the end of the day, you're a comedy.
	What the fuck is it benefiting besides people's emotions?
	You have people dying.
	You have people with health issues.
	You have people killing themselves.
	You have all this shit happening, basically.
	And it's like, what are you getting from it besides people being happy that they can live how they want?
	Well, it's just promoting laziness.
	Like, just overweight people are just lazy.
	I was lazy when I was 300 pounds.
	I was just sitting on the couch.
	I didn't have to work out.
	I didn't have to improve my beauty.
	I didn't have to do anything.
	Well, you haven't even had kids yet, have you?
	How old are you?
	No, I'm 18.
	Okay, so, I mean, I have four kids in four years.
	If you are fat at 20 and you haven't had children, I've got news for you.
	Shit's going to get a lot harder once your hormones get screwed up and you have kids.
	I always feel really bad when I see young people fat.
	I'm like, you haven't even hit the hard part yet.
	What's going on here?
	Obesity in children is growing at a very fast rate.
	It's an epidemic.
	It's terrifying because you have a lot of young women being like, you're beautiful, you're beautiful.
	They're 300 pounds, 400 pounds, 500 pounds.
	I mean, even, like, 8-year-olds now are, like, really, really overweight.
	And it's scarier.
	Like, you think that kid is, like, 10 and he's, like, 6.
	I think what people don't acknowledge is that, like, a lot of these people that struggle with weight are dealing with a lot of mental health issues.
	And they might be depressed.
	But back in, like, during the Victorian days, being fat was showed that you had money.
	Mm-hmm.
	So it's crazy to see how times have changed like back then if you were thicker that means you have some type of wealth and now it's like if you're fat it's like you're lazy but it's like you don't take into account that they might just be dealing with things and like the majority of the world just likes to brush off mental health and doesn't like to address it.
	They want to medicate and pills don't build skills.
	You know, it's one thing.
	I kind of like how you address, like, you know, like, before, like, being fat was, you know, like, this, that, and a third.
	But you also have to understand that our worlds are very differently.
	Like, back then, all a man had to worry about was how many bitches he was gonna fuck.
	Does he have land?
	Can he eat?
	Like, literal basics.
	Like, am I wrong?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, if we really go back to where, like, society wasn't really a thing.
	Like, your cars aren't even cars.
	You feel me?
	So, like, a man only had but so much to worry about.
	Women had to do everything.
	You know what I mean?
	Don't get me wrong, like, men worked and, like, did their thing, but, like, if they're up there, like, in royalty and status, they literally, they're living the dream that the men today want.
	They're not doing shit.
	They're sitting on a throne.
	So what is there to worry about when, like, they were saying, high-value men, they have money, they have status, pussies being thrown to them.
	This isn't a new thing.
	This is an old thing with new patterns and new habits and new lifestyles, basically.
	And going back to what you said about being sensitive, if you're too sensitive, it's like you are harming your own emotional well-being.
	Oh, 100%.
	And it's true.
	People are too sensitive.
	Emotional eating shouldn't be accepted just because you have mental health issues, which, by the way, 90% of your mental health issues, you can actually fix yourself with eating right, working out, and taking accountability of your own life.
	You know, everyone goes through hard things and if you just let that soak in your own pain for the rest of your life, you will be miserable and you will be fat and you will hate your life.
	So you have to take accountability.
	You can't just blame food and other people for your problems because that's how I got fat and that's how fat people get fat and they have control.
	And so this lie that we like to tell them like, oh, it's okay.
	You know, it's okay to eat emotionally eating.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	Is harming them to an extent we don't even see on the surface.
	Well said.
	I was going to say, because you said that people might be fat because they're going through something, mental health, depression, etc.
	Controversial take.
	Actually, your favorite person, Andrew Tate, actually talks about this, and I agree with him 100%, and I'll take it a step further.
	Depression, long-term depression, isn't real.
	And what I mean by that is being depressed is a valid feeling, but long-term depression is typically a valid response to long-term failure.
	And what I mean by that is being depressed long-term typically means, okay, I'm not accomplishing something or something is missing in my life, but it's in my control to fix it a lot of the times.
	So like when guys are depressed, if some guy comes up to me and tells me I'm depressed, I just look at the individual.
	Do you go to the gym?
	Most likely not.
	Are you working on something like keeping yourself preoccupied, right?
	Because idle hands do the devil's work.
	Do you have goals?
	Do you have goals?
	Most of the time, it's no.
	If I ask a female, are you depressed?
	It's because maybe she's obese.
	Maybe she's been traumatized by being promiscuous.
	She's made bad decisions that potentially led to her being in that state.
	But a lot of the times, it's self-inflicted and it comes from long-term failure.
	But, again, we live in a very pussified society where, like you said before, pills are no skills.
	ADHD, ADD, all these, like, attention deficit disorder things, prescribing people Adderall, etc.
	It's all a bunch of bullshit.
	Whatever happens to just telling people that they're fucking stupid?
	What about telling people, how about you need to just focus harder because it might be a little bit harder for you to focus.
	Stop being stupid.
	I guarantee if I went to a psychiatrist right now and said, I have ADD, they'll give me Adderall.
	If I said, yo, I have ADHD, they'll give me Adderall.
	They wouldn't even care because it's so easy to get the shit nowadays because Big Pharma makes money on prescribing you meds.
	So they're 1,000% incentivized to give you medication for this ailment that you have, which a lot of times just stems from you being a fucking loser and not being adequate.
	So Mainstream media will never talk about this, but I genuinely think a lot of these diseases, I don't want to say they're made up, but we give people an out and tell them, no, there's something wrong with you mentally.
	What about you're just fucking stupid and you need to work harder than the next person?
	Well, I have a question.
	So, when you say, like, If you ask a woman why she's feeling supposedly depressed long-term and you said maybe she had a promiscuous past or something like that, what do you tell that woman to do to better her life?
	You can tell a man to get off his ass and go do something.
	For women, it sucks more because a woman's past will always come back to haunt her a lot of the time.
	With women, this is why I say self-preservation is so important.
	Women, I look at them as like glass.
	If it's shattered, It's very difficult to pick up the pieces and put it back together.
	And even if you do put it back together, whenever you pour water in it, it's always going to leak to a degree.
	So that's why it's so important for women to preserve their value.
	But with women, yeah, it's not as repairable a lot of the times.
	For the man, it's like you're a loser.
	You can fix it and figure it out.
	You have time to figure it out.
	But with women, it's like you get the value up front.
	So if you spend your, you know, millions that you got given to you, you're kind of fucked.
	And I think one of the major reasons why women are depressed nowadays in 2023 is because of social media.
	Because girls want to compare themselves to other girls.
	And all of a sudden, they're like, oh my gosh, you know what?
	I'm doing well.
	All of a sudden, they see a girl with a husband or wife.
	I'm like, damn, where am I? What's going on?
	Because I've met girls who don't on social media, and they're happy as fuck.
	They're humming, doing certain things.
	They're just happy individuals.
	Yeah, nothing to compare it to, but as soon as a girl wakes up out of bed, she starts scrolling on her Instagram first thing in the morning, and then fucks up the whole day.
	She's like, oh, fuck!
	Now I have to sit here and...
	And then you see a girl, you see these hot girls?
	Just watch how they fucking move in the mornings.
	They're like zombies.
	Yo, Chris, you made a good point, bro.
	Social media.
	Dating apps.
	What's with these chicks?
	I'm not posting their whole bodies.
	It's a close-up only.
	I'm like, nigga, you catfish me.
	You catfish me.
	I really follow my mental so much.
	I think that's a really good point that you brought up social media.
	Social media, and then also I think a big one, Is that we lie to women, dude.
	Like, you guys were alluding to it with the body positivity thing.
	That's one component that we lie to women.
	Another component that we lie to them is telling them that chasing a career, making a lot of money, being successful, and taking the masculine path is going to lead to long-term fulfillment and happiness.
	And for a man, he's going to get fulfillment and happiness from achieving success because that's going to increase his sexual options.
	Right?
	Men are determined, our values are determined by what we create.
	Both women, their values are determined by creating children.
	Unfortunately, having a career and education a lot of times is counterproductive to having children.
	It'll hurt your ability to do so.
	And not only that, it'll hurt your ability to do so with the best compatible mate for you.
	Because women have a finite amount of time to find the best guy.
	We have the body positivity situation.
	We tell women to chase a career.
	We tell women to chase money.
	We tell women to go after these things.
	And then you have Instagram, where they're comparing their life to the Instagram model that isn't even happy because she can't land a guy because she's on OnlyFans showing her butthole for $3.99.
	They're comparing their life to them.
	They're comparing their everyday to a woman's highlight reel that they might not necessarily even want that lifestyle because they don't see the negatives that comes from sexualizing yourself on the internet.
	So you compound all these things together, right?
	Then you got the music industry telling women they're strong and independent.
	You're single.
	Go ahead and bisexualize yourself, etc.
	All these things working in tandem to fuck up their mind.
	They chase these things.
	35 comes.
	What the hell am I doing?
	I'm single.
	I don't have any guy taking me seriously.
	I have a body count of 91.
	What's going on here?
	No guy wants to take me seriously.
	Yeah, it's really 182.
	Right?
	And it's like, what the hell is going on here?
	And then they're like, yo, I'm depressed because I thought this was going to bring me happiness.
	It hasn't.
	I was lied to.
	And being deceived will cause quite a bit of anger.
	And for women, it sucks because you can't get that time back.
	Well, and that's what I'm curious about.
	What do you say to that woman who might be 35 and regretting her life?
	life okay but i'm saying to avoid no like genuinely like yeah to avoid like that long-term depression like what do you say to that woman who feels like she's like ruined her life it's It's too late.
	I'll add a second part to that.
	It's too late to get your dream, man.
	That sucks because we tell women that there's sugar and spice and everything nice.
	They deserve the best, etc.
	We tell women that are 300 pounds that they don't need to change.
	So it's very difficult for women to accept that their actions have negative consequences because we tell them that they can do no wrong a lot of the times, right?
	Yeah.
	It's over.
	Yeah, it's too late for your dream man.
	You're going to have to settle with an average guy that isn't the best looking, that isn't charming, that's socially awkward, that might not necessarily be able to send us together charming like fucking Christian Grey.
	He's not going to seduce you.
	He's not going to give you the best dick.
	You might be embarrassed to bring him around to family functions, but this is what you did.
	Because...
	What women do a lot of times is they're really bad gamblers.
	They get a million dollars.
	They go to the casino.
	They stay there all night.
	Gamble away, gamble away.
	I'll find a better deal here.
	No, I'm going to keep going.
	I'll keep going, keep going.
	Next thing you know, it's 5 o'clock in the morning.
	Casino closed in the hour, and they're down to $1,000.
	What are you going to do with that $1,000?
	Some girls would rather just sit in the casino and let it close and leave with the money that they have, a.k.a.
	stay single.
	But I say, leave when you're up.
	I have a question.
	Do you guys believe that there are any women that didn't need a cosign from a high-value man that you guys consider to be a high-value woman?
	Yeah, there's one.
	Who?
	No one.
	Not even your mother?
	Not even an example of a high-value woman that I think more girls should aspire to be.
	Derek Jeter's wife.
	Derek Jeter's wife is a fantastic example.
	If you look at her Instagram, all her pictures are with him.
	Nothing sexualized.
	I think it's like two or three pictures.
	Low key.
	Out the media.
	No attention-seeking.
	What about Messi's wife?
	Who?
	Messi, the soccer player.
	I consider him a high-value man.
	Absolutely.
	Of course he is.
	I don't know.
	He's awesome.
	Of course he is.
	What about his wife, though?
	I never heard, like, oh, yeah, he's shitting on him, like...
	I mean, look at the person that's behind the family and then look at what's being put out there.
	I've never heard anything bad about his wife or anything that would demise or his career.
	So, I mean, look at Will Smith.
	Yeah.
	Look what his wife did to him.
	That's true.
	Destroyed because of one allocation, which was true.
	And then, it comes up by now, it was August Alcina taking down his wife.
	Are you asking about single women?
	I would say maybe like Zendaya.
	No one's ever heard anything bad about Zendaya.
	Zendaya was the pinnacle of getting to that point.
	However, This is Tom Holland's fault.
	That's his fault because his leadership should have told her, you're not doing that role.
	Because even if it's acting, you represent me now.
	So he should provide the bag that she doesn't get from that movie role though.
	If she's getting like two mil off that role, he should provide two mil then.
	That's what I'm saying.
	She already has money.
	That's fine, but you're stopping my bag now because of your feelings.
	If I'm acting with two guys that isn't even a real sex scene, I'm just kissing them for like a acting role and I don't actually love them.
	Like how you said you can like fuck women and not feel anything.
	As an actress, we can separate our emotions and feelings.
	Absolutely.
	So it's like, why should she be a low value woman because she's just doing her job?
	If we're going to use that logic, then what's the difference between a porn star and an actress then?
	A porn star is booked for actual sex.
	They actually fuck.
	I think, like, actors, they just do not fuck.
	It's a job, though.
	It's just a scene.
	It's only a job.
	Yeah, because by your logic, you're saying, hey, they're just acting.
	Well, a lot of female porn stars are just actresses as well.
	They're just acting a scene.
	What's the difference between kissing someone in a film versus having sex with someone in a neurotic film?
	Zendaya's not getting multiple dicks inside of her, though.
	She isn't?
	How do you know?
	What is the image being sent to people since they are on the TV screen?
	But that's the beauty of movies, to make you feel like it's real.
	A man at home that cares about you, that movie director, he can fuck about you.
	He'll pay you and say, okay, awesome job.
	By the end of the day, he'll find me at home waiting for you.
	Why would you disrupt your family over some money?
	Tell me that.
	Well, not only that, I think women need to understand That a lot of the times, the bag is going to come at the cost of dignity.
	And you have to ask yourself, what's more valuable to you?
	Dignity or a bag?
	I would argue, for women, your value is 100% determined, when it comes to mating, on your dignity.
	This is why so many women that make money that have a bag that you're talking about, we know girls, you know what?
	Yeah.
	Be honest here, Fresh.
	Let's just keep it a thousand.
	You know a lot of women that make a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, half a million to a million dollars a month on OnlyFans.
	Allegedly.
	Please tell me how they're doing when it comes to their day-to-day and how they're coping.
	Yeah, so, you know, I dabble in the arts of, you know, gifts.
	I'll just say that.
	No, but I think for them, it's more like they obviously have a goal of making money, being successful.
	And at what cost?
	The morals.
	Now, at that cost, though, comes relationships.
	And as a result, they might find guys that they actually like because they're passing their current status of a job.
	They can't find true love because they want love.
	Obviously, they want love as well, but their profession, their whole acting, their whole scenes that they do results in guys saying, you know what?
	Damn, she's hot, but wifey taking her home to mom, I just can't do it.
	Now, they'll play the part for a little bit and say, nah, you got to stop.
	Or they say, you know what?
	I'm out.
	I have fun, but I got to dip.
	And what makes this worse for Zendaya is that she already has money.
	She's in a privileged position where she's able to decline roles.
	But she's not married to Tom Holland, though.
	That's the difference.
	Okay, hold on, hold on.
	Fair enough.
	Good argument.
	Let me ask you this.
	If you work at a job and you want to get promoted and elevated at that job, wouldn't it be fair to say that you need to display the traits for the elevated position prior to being elevated?
	Yes, but what if Tom...
	Hold on, stop right there.
	Okay.
	If he wants to elevate her to wife, wouldn't it be fair to say that she needs to display wife characteristics to be elevated?
	What if he doesn't believe that the things that she does is not...
	Please answer no to that question.
	Okay, yes, yes, yes.
	That's my point.
	If she wants to be elevated, remember, men are the ones that give out relationships.
	That is a job application to a degree.
	And I would argue someone like Tom Holland would be the equivalent to a very...
	He's a prestigious law firm.
	Let's use an example.
	He's a prestigious law firm and there's a bunch of people that are applying to this law firm.
	She needs to go ahead and show exemplary performance to get elevated to wife because he could replace her easier than she could replace him.
	But for some people, he may have gave her the green light to do that.
	She probably asked him first.
	Just like how Adam-22 and his wife, you feel me?
	Notice how I blamed him, though, for that.
	But she also should have not taken it, but she should have not taken it, and he should have stopped her from taking it.
	But the thing also is, like, y'all are forgetting, Zendaya is a Disney Channel star.
	You have little kids watching this chick.
	So, like, let's say you have, like, these 9, 10-year-olds.
	Like, fuck that shit.
	I watched Zendaya growing up, and I didn't even know about this until just now.
	So hearing this is like, bro, I used to, like, look up to her.
	Like, let's be for real.
	This is a little light-skinned, curly-headed chick.
	Like, damn, she looked kind of like me.
	I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, I'm fucking with that already.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	I ain't as fine as her, respectfully.
	But, like, let's be for real.
	Like, you see all these Disney Channel stars doing all this shit, and you see Bella Thorne, who was literally her co-star.
	What is she doing now?
	Looking like a fucking slut.
	And now you have Zendaya, who people look up to her.
	Like, it's not just about the money.
	Like, they said she already has...
	They can't be little forever.
	It's not about being little.
	It's not about maturity.
	It's not about age.
	It's literally about how you present yourself to the public.
	Who taught you all this?
	Because you seem like you're aware of everything.
	I'm just not...
	I grew up in a very traditional household as it is.
	I was already raised with a certain mindset.
	What do you mean?
	Ethnically?
	Both of my parents are from the Virgin Islands, but my mom is Puerto Rican and my dad is Trini.
	So, like, obviously, but no, for real, like, it's like, we can use freaking Dora.
	You see Dora as this little Hispanic chick running around, like, where is the banana?
	You know what I'm saying?
	and then you see these crazy parody videos of Dora fucking boots.
	Like, that's just crazy.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	I don't know.
	Yo, chats.
	Chats. Chats. Chats.
	Please, chats.
	Yo, I see myself.
	Oh, me.
	Don't let's see a minor.
	Well, I think the real problem here is there's no purity.
	Like, the purity's gone.
	You have these OnlyFans models making all this money off of their bodies, and I really look at it to the family.
	Like, all these women, like, you're right, they're gonna be 35 years old one day and miserable and sad, and some of the people who end up actually having families that do OnlyFans are gonna harm their future children.
	And that's what I see.
	It's already starting.
	There's already kids, like, you know, offing themselves because kids are teasing them on the playground, like, hey, dude, look, your mom's sucking dick on OnlyFans.
	Of course they are.
	That makes perfect sense.
	No kid should have to go through that.
	And so all these women putting their families through these horrible situations is very harmful for children.
	Like you just said, they're oofing themselves.
	It's terrible.
	It's very sad.
	Yeah.
	And again, like I said before, it's a multitude of situations, right?
	Like I said before, it's a lie with pursuing money.
	It's a lie with pursuing status.
	It's a lie with pursuing a career and pursuing masculine endeavors in general, not prioritizing family.
	The body positivity movement.
	They're all working in tandem to brainwash women into not pursuing the things that are going to fulfill them long term until later.
	Oh, it's okay.
	You can have a family later on.
	The problem with that is that the guy that you want isn't going to want you when you're in your 30s life.
	Therapy plays a really big role.
	You were talking about mental health earlier, and therapy plays a massive role in what we tell women today.
	In society, when I went to therapy, they told me it was okay, and that they tried to give me a pill for my depression, a pill for my anxiety, a pill for my obesity, instead of being like, oh, just fix your own health.
	All of the therapists lied to me, and most people that go to therapy are actually women.
	When you look at the statistics.
	And a lot of them are obese and a lot of them never get their problem fixed because the therapy system wasn't built for the client to succeed.
	It's built for the therapist to succeed because that's how they make their money.
	So when you think about it, don't go to therapy.
	Just don't go to therapy because the therapist is making money off of you.
	I was in therapy for 10 years.
	Wait, 10 years?
	10 years.
	And my problems weren't fixed until I left.
	Wait, you're 18 though.
	I'm 18.
	Damn.
	No, no, no.
	That goes to show that Big Pharma gets involved in therapy, all this mental health crap.
	I'm not saying that mental health isn't to be taken seriously.
	But what I will say is that Big Pharma has a large incentive to make a lot of money on you early on and turn you into a lifelong customer.
	What are they selling?
	Hope through therapy a lot of the time.
	People need to get educated.
	They need to take responsibility.
	It's been so important and it's so important today.
	Absolutely.
	They brainwash you.
	Guys, we are aware of the lag.
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	We'll refresh StreamYard.
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	Can we say Elmo for now?
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	That's right there.
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	We're hitting the fucking numbers.
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	Let me go back and check the connection real fast.
	Chris, or Walt, one of y'all, you guys got this.
	This is actually a dream.
	Chris, go right ahead, bro.
	Alright, let's go.
	I can't even see, man.
	Let's see.
	Why is it that when women break their vows, turn down, or disobey their husbands, men is blamed for neglecting her emotions, but when men break his vow to find intimacy elsewhere, he is also blamed for being unfaithful?
	That's a very good question.
	I like that one.
	Okay, next one.
	I mean, answer the question.
	No, this is your show, bro.
	Go ahead.
	So, ladies, the question is there.
	So, why is it when a woman breaks their vows, turn down orders to pay their husbands?
	Men are blamed for it, more or less.
	But when a man breaks his vows to find sex elsewhere, he is also blamed for being unfaithful.
	So, we're blamed no matter what happens.
	So, let's go with her.
	What do you think about this?
	You.
	Well, I think that's a weird double standard, of course.
	I think a woman is also being unfaithful, breaking their vows.
	But I think it's also very weird to just differentiate women and men, the role of them, like that, distinctively.
	Because I think, coming back to the high value women, the high value men, if I don't see any high value of the person, then I do not consider them to be a high value woman or a high value man.
	I agree.
	I don't think one is better than another.
	They're both bad.
	So they should both treat it badly, you know?
	It doesn't matter which one you do, you're still in wrong.
	So I think they both should be blamed in that situation.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I think we're good with the lag here as well.
	So anyone else wants to do input?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, guys, I don't know what it is, man.
	Our internet's fine.
	It's a stream yard, bro.
	It's 100% stream yard because our internet is, we're getting like 700 up and then what for down?
	Like 50 or 60?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Count two times?
	Yeah.
	This is a Bible verse here.
	Mark 10, 12.
	KGV says, And if a woman shall put away her husband and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
	That's true.
	All right.
	Ice513.
	Can you ask the girls if their son came to them and told them that their girl said, if you get a paternity test, I'm leaving you.
	What would be their advice to their son?
	That's a good one.
	Wait.
	Like, if she got pregnant...
	So he's saying, if his girl, if your son's girl came to them and said, hey, you know what?
	I don't do your test.
	I'm going to leave you if you ask me to do a test.
	What would you say to your son?
	Girl, you're going to be single.
	Let's start here.
	Sorry.
	You can ask the girl to sign me.
	So your son is going to tell his girl...
	No, actually, hold on.
	If your son was in an issue where he told her, you need a paternity test, but he said, I'm going to leave you, what would you do?
	Nigga.
	Yeah, like, be for real.
	Like, you just put yourself in the fucking hole.
	Like, oh, I'm gonna leave you.
	Because a secure man don't give a shit.
	Like, realistically, if you know you got nothing to hide, like, what is you scared for?
	Like, you're only doing the most if you have something to hide in the first place.
	You're just taking that extra step and be like, oh, you don't trust me.
	Like, that's where the manipulation and toxicity comes in.
	You don't trust me.
	Like, you think that...
	Like, I was like, bullshit, basically.
	Okay.
	Yeah, he gotta leave because that's not his son.
	Like, why she's scared of him taking the paternity test?
	That's a rare flag.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, if you say something like that, like, doesn't...
	Aren't you kind of like proving that you already did something wrong?
	Like, you wouldn't say it otherwise, you know?
	So you wouldn't have a problem with it yourself?
	Me?
	I wouldn't ask that.
	I mean...
	But let's say your boyfriend asked you to do it.
	Yeah.
	Would you have a problem with it?
	What if?
	No.
	No?
	You sure?
	So you sound kind of nervous.
	What about you?
	I wouldn't have an issue taking a paternity test.
	Forget about it!
	You would?
	No, I wouldn't.
	You wouldn't?
	I would take it and then I'd be like, ha, I told you, it's your kid.
	What would you tell your son?
	Your son, the girls, telling him, if you ask me that, I'm going to leave.
	Oh, well.
	Bye.
	Have fun raising the kid by yourself.
	Okay.
	Turn into Goku.
	I would take the paternity test.
	No, but what would you tell your son in this scenario?
	His girl gave him the ultimatum.
	If I take the paternity test, I'm leaving you.
	Oh yeah, 100%.
	Leave?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Leave?
	Leave.
	Okay, are the rest of you guys agree?
	Leave?
	Not really.
	I don't think so.
	You don't think you should leave?
	I think a relationship is more...
	To the mic.
	To the mic.
	I think a relationship is about emotions and a bond and a connection.
	And if the girl really feels like the guy is for him, in this case my son, and their relationship is above and beyond of...
	Who had sex with who and who is the real father of the kid, biological father, then I believe that it should be like that.
	So you think that he should be willing to take care of somebody else's kid, possibly?
	Yes.
	Yes, I do think that.
	What age range are we speaking here?
	Like a grown man taking care of another grown man's kid, possibly.
	Just because he loves this woman.
	Are we talking about, like, in our...
	Like early adulthood?
	Like early 20s?
	Or are you talking about like later in life when you're settled?
	I don't care really about the age range.
	I think that it doesn't really...
	So you would stay with your man if he cheated?
	Yes, I would.
	Why?
	Because our connection is an emotional bond and it's not really about...
	So, are you okay with your man being emotionally connected to you and he's telling you all this great shit like, I love you, I'll never leave you, I won't spend the rest of my life with you, but he's telling another bitch the same script.
	Because then...
	If it's a script, if I feel like it's personal to me...
	What makes it personal to you?
	Like, he said he likes your eyes or something?
	Maybe.
	If he likes the way I think, if he likes the way...
	It's just my mind works.
	You know what's crazy?
	Him say the same shit to...
	Bro, everyone knows how to get into a woman's head.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You know what I mean?
	It's so common we know what girls want.
	They want that emotional security.
	They want to know...
	You're always going to be here for me and you're going to be here when I have a shoulder to cry on.
	Anybody can do that shit.
	Who hurt you?
	Hold on, we just glossed over something really important.
	Just so I make sure I understand this correctly.
	You're okay with your potential daughter-in-law cheating on your son.
	Yes, I am, if I really do believe that the relationship is more than that.
	If they've been together for years, for example.
	Okay, so in this instance, right?
	So clearly, if the son is saying, I want you to take a paternity test, it clearly matters to him that he is the father of the child, which is why he's willing to risk the relationship to ask him, would you still have that same mindset like, hey, you should still raise that kid even though it's not yours?
	Yes, I would still say that to my son because I would think that he would also need a second look at that.
	What makes you think that that's like the solution to the situation is to accept infidelity, accept raising a child, which is a big responsibility, by the way, that you're on the hook for financially, emotionally, etc.
	What makes you think that, like, where does that mindset come from?
	If my son, for example, has always dreamt of raising a kid with the perfect partner.
	She ain't perfect.
	That's subjective.
	To you, she's not perfect.
	Let's let her fully speak and get her thought out.
	Please go ahead.
	Maybe the girl is really more to him and maybe I see that the relationship is more than that and he should take into consideration that maybe it's worth it.
	Maybe it's worth it to raise another I think what she means is she doesn't believe in physical cheating, but she believes in emotional cheating.
	So if you're emotionally only connected to one person, but you're physically with others, I think that's what she's okay with.
	Does it matter to you if it's physical or emotional or no?
	Yes, it does.
	And relationships can be both monogamous and not.
	Do you care that it's emotional?
	In the case, I believe that the question just assumed that the relationship between them was monogamous.
	And in that case also, I do feel like my son should really consider taking a paternity test and staying with the woman.
	And I would give him that advice.
	Regardless of if the child's his or not?
	Yes.
	So let me ask you this.
	You said that emotional cheating is worse, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, let me...
	Let's go a step further.
	Wouldn't it be fair to say that for a woman to cheat on her man, she needs to be emotionally invested into other individuals to a significant degree?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So wouldn't that be one of the highest forms of treachery and betrayal when we know that for men it's just strictly physical, but for women they need a physical component and an emotional component, which kind of contradicts what you said?
	How does it contradict what I said?
	Because you're saying that...
	In one hand, you're saying, yeah, emotional cheating is not acceptable.
	But what I'm arguing is that when women cheat, it must be emotional to a significant degree because women are emotional lovers more generally than men are.
	So for a woman, let me make it simple.
	The threshold for a woman to cheat requires emotional investment.
	Versus for men, we don't need emotional investment.
	Oh, she hot?
	I'll do it.
	For women, they need cognitive stimulation.
	They need emotional stimulation.
	They need to feel a certain way.
	So that's why cheating for women has been generally unacceptable since the beginning of time.
	Because for women, it's harder for them to cheat than it is for men in general.
	Maybe I just don't really agree with that.
	I see sex as separate to what emotions are to both genders.
	And I don't think it just applies to men.
	But for women in general, emotions always tie into sex.
	Not always.
	I'm a woman.
	Okay.
	So do you just fuck anybody then?
	I'm a female and I don't feel like I need to have an emotional connection with a person.
	But do you just fuck anybody though, is my question.
	I don't need an emotional connection for that.
	That means you're popping pussy.
	Don't try to devalue her as a woman though.
	If she wants to do that, that's not devaluing.
	You could pop your pussy for your husband.
	Let me ask this then.
	Okay, so you're okay with just having casual sex then.
	Okay, what about the rest of the women on the panel?
	Do you need some type of emotional investment before you have sex with a guy in general?
	Yes, definitely.
	Can we get a raise of hands just to show?
	Okay, so that's the majority of women.
	So you might be an outlier.
	You might not need it.
	But what I'm saying in general is that the reason why cheating for women is generally unacceptable is because it takes more of a threshold for a woman to have sex.
	That's right.
	In general.
	You should be married if you do that.
	Take it a step further.
	Wait, what's sex?
	I respect that.
	I'm so horny that I couldn't wait for elective marriage.
	There's different thresholds for different women, but I think the bottom line here is that women need an emotional connection in general to have sex.
	So since they need an emotional connection, for a woman to cheat on a man is a higher form of treachery than for a man to cheat on a woman.
	Because for men, it's physical.
	For women in general, it's emotional and physical.
	Well, we can tell from her prior answers about the question about her dating status.
	I mean, she's okay with not even seeing homeboy and being in love.
	Wait, but Fresh...
	Yeah, I mean, hold on.
	That's actually a good point.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Fresh.
	You're in a relationship right now where there's no physical contact, but you're emotionally invested.
	Ooh.
	Like I've never been before.
	But does that not prove my point that women need emotional stimulation to be aroused by an individual to some degree?
	Even though you're saying on one end, right?
	Okay, I can just do it physical.
	Right now, you're in a non-physical situation that's still highly interested in this male.
	Yeah.
	Yes, but it's just a case that you described for a guy.
	Like, I can love a guy.
	She's emotional.
	It's just purely emotional.
	But that's a female trait is what I'm trying to say.
	Men don't love the way that you do.
	No, that's your main chick.
	That's your main chick that you love, you know?
	And your side chicks that you just kind of don't care about.
	But they would never be a main chick if I was just talking to them emotionally.
	Okay, I'm just going to say it.
	The guy at his age is probably fucking other girls.
	Let me just keep it a million with you.
	He's probably having sex with other girls because men don't get the same fulfillment from emotional stimulation that women do.
	For you, you can go ahead and be sexless and be like, you know what, maybe I'll just finger myself to you or something like that because the cognitive stimulation is enough for you, for women.
	For him, he's going to still need some type of, he needs some buses, not physically somehow.
	So since you're not there to fulfill that, he's probably getting it done either through porn or through other women.
	I'm actually comfortable with that.
	And that's fine, but you're missing my point.
	And I know he would also be.
	But you're missing my point.
	Of course he would.
	You're missing my point that you are able to be fully fulfilled through just emotional stimulation while he needs physical stimulation.
	Facts.
	No, I don't see that, actually.
	I see it as equal.
	Both me and my partner.
	You don't see that, but he's back home decking off someplace.
	Or having sex with another girl.
	Sure.
	Now you guys gotta put all that negativity on her man.
	Maybe he's really loyal and he's...
	You didn't fuck a guy for a month, right?
	And you're horny as fuck all the time.
	So, which one was it?
	No, that was like a while back when I was a virgin.
	Beyond that, going back to the question, I think that because your son did not sign up to make that commitment, hypothetically speaking, Yeah, I mean, it's a commitment.
	It is a big thing to have a kid.
	Yeah, maybe he wants a kid, but did he want a kid then?
	Were they trying for a kid?
	You don't know.
	You know what I mean?
	In that situation, if he's asking for a paternity test, you would hope that it would be because maybe he had some sort of strange feeling or things have been off.
	So regardless, he did not commit possibly to having that kid.
	And I feel like nobody should be put in that position.
	And kind of like literally branching off of the conversation that we were having earlier of a high-value man, a woman's common agreement of like a high-value man is someone who like risks Like, holds himself a certain way, acts a certain way.
	Like, obviously, there's, like, you know, these standards for a high-value man.
	So, like, my question to you is, would you kind of consider your man to be high-value?
	Because, for me, what...
	This is not shame you keep in mind.
	This is kind of what I'm seeing is, like, I feel like for you within...
	My God.
	With you within your relationships, you don't value respect to be one of your standards.
	Because me, personally, if a man thinks it's okay to...
	If we made an agreement, like...
	Yeah, this is what we are.
	We're together.
	We're exclusive.
	This, that, and a third.
	If he thinks that it's cute to go and fuck other bitches because he wants to satisfy himself, that's disrespecting me.
	That's disrespecting my wishes.
	That's disrespecting me as a woman because I'm holding myself to a certain stance of I am not going to cheat.
	I'm not going to do this, that, and a third with other people.
	So I expect it from you.
	And I guess that's kind of like what you were saying.
	Like, oh, if he goes in and has sex with other girls, that's fine because I can go having sex with other guys.
	So is that kind of your way of saying like, Your relationship is basically like an open relationship?
	No, you just have different moral standards for your partners, probably.
	If my partner would be talking to other people, like he talks to me, he'd be on the phone call.
	Is your guy Muslim?
	No, no.
	Is he Arab?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Makes sense.
	Do you think...
	And let's be honest here.
	Do you think if you guys were in a relationship and you got pregnant by another man that he would stick around?
	I'll answer it for you.
	The answer is no.
	I'm from that part of the world.
	The answer is profound.
	Haram!
	He would absolutely leave you in an instant.
	Because everyone in his family would make fun of him.
	Everyone ridicule him.
	There'd be a shame on the family.
	He would absolutely leave you.
	I believe that the relationship is really personal and intimate, and it's between two people and another...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but see, here's the thing, you're from Holland.
	Holland's a very liberal country, very leftist, you know, egalitarian, very equal.
	The part of the world that he's from isn't like that.
	So even if he might have some of these beliefs or whatever, the way he's raised, his cultural background...
	I mean, I'm from that part of the world.
	He's absolutely going to leave you because it's going to bring big shame to him and his last name.
	Maybe his mom wouldn't let him do that.
	What was that?
	I said maybe his mom wouldn't let him do that.
	No, his mom wouldn't even let him do that.
	Like, if she was saying, what the hell are you doing to Hamada, like, what are you doing?
	But I feel like...
	But my thing, all I'm trying to say is that, and I've talked about this before, maybe a controversial take.
	If a girl cheats on you, it's over.
	The relationship no longer exists because men don't ask for much from women.
	Sexual exclusivity is the number one thing that men require in a relationship from most women.
	And then on top of that, to raise another man's child is unacceptable because not only are you on the hook financially and emotionally, the woman can leave you and take the kid and you have no rights to the kid.
	Also...
	I mean, matter of fact, I'll take it a step further.
	Do you guys know why men hate hoes?
	Why, Mar?
	Why do men hate hoes?
	Why?
	Because it's for this very situation.
	Not her, not her.
	It's because a man's biggest fear...
	Well, you know what?
	Let me equate it so that the women really understand.
	What is your deepest, darkest fear?
	You.
	Um...
	I can't say it.
	You know what?
	Let me go ahead.
	I think I'll go anywhere.
	All right.
	Go switch over to Rumble real quick, guys.
	We're going to go over to Rumble.
	I'll read the rest of the chats there.
	Let's go to Rumble.
	Because I'm going to give a functional equivalent here.
	You can say no, though.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Go ahead.
	Come on over to Rumble, guys.
	Come on over.
	All right.
	You can say no.
	You're good.
	And I think I can speak for all the ladies at the table.
	Getting raped in an alley by a weirdo in a mask, maybe some horror movie type shit.
	That's exactly what I was going to say.
	Not even just me, but my nieces, like the young girls in my family.
	But I mean to you, to physically, to you, that probably would be that, right?
	In an alley by some weirdo in a Jason mask, whatever, right?
	Fair enough.
	And I would argue that's most women's fear in general, some serial killer shit.
	Cool.
	Every man's deepest fear, that's the functional equivalent, Is raising a kid that they find out later on isn't theirs.
	Just like you.
	Let that sink in!
	Let that sink in!
	Because women need to understand the same pain.
	Just like you don't want to get raped and killed in an alley by some dude in a fucking Jason mask on Friday the 13th at midnight.
	What?
	No?
	Okay.
	Just like you don't want that to happen to you, a man doesn't want to raise a kid that he thought was his and finds out that kid isn't his.
	That's our biggest fear.
	That's just a dumb fear, honestly, because there's bigger things in the world like dying.
	You can die and you're worried about another bitch having a kid on you.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	All I'm doing is giving you a functional equivalent.
	Would I say that you're stupid for being scared of a man that's bigger?
	I didn't call you dumb.
	I said that's dumb.
	Not you're dumb.
	No, but that's dumb.
	What I'm saying is that what if I said that your fear of a man that's stronger, more powerful than you, etc., killing you and you can't do anything about it?
	Would that be...
	I'd sound ludicrous if I said that, right?
	Because that's a very rational fear for you.
	You're entitled to your opinion.
	Okay.
	No, no.
	It's not an opinion.
	It's a general...
	When a guy holds you down and rapes you and kills you, you can't do anything because he's physically superior to you.
	When a woman, okay, has a child and someone else inseminates her and then she makes me raise that kid and I'm on the hook to pay for that kid, I'm being raped because I can't do anything about it.
	Unlike you, you know the kid is yours.
	I don't know if the kid is mine.
	Do you understand?
	I don't think that's the same equivalence, but maybe.
	I don't know.
	That's your biggest fear.
	That is most men's biggest fear.
	Because the thing I'm trying to do is I'm trying to give you a functional equivalent because men and women are not equal.
	We view the world differently.
	We have different viewpoints.
	We have different experiences.
	What's scary to me might not be scary to you.
	You're scared of men attacking and killing you.
	We aren't necessarily scared of that to that degree because I'm capable of defending myself.
	However, I'm not capable of defending myself against a vindictive woman that might have sex with another individual and now I'm on the hook for raising that kid and I did not know.
	It's not the same.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I need you to exercise a little bit of critical thinking and understand that men and women are not the same.
	I'm giving you an analogy so you understand.
	I have to give you the female equivalent so you feel the pain so I can give you the male equivalent because we have different viewpoints.
	That's fine, but she could raise her son to be such a noble man that regardless if his wife or whatever did cheat and he wanted to take the responsibility of raising that kid, that is a high value man to me.
	He had no choice.
	No!
	You always have a choice.
	You always have a choice.
	You were held down and things happened to you.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Noble, right?
	Yeah.
	Do you have high standards in men?
	Yeah.
	What kind of guy do you want?
	I want a man that can teach me things.
	Okay.
	You want a man that makes more money than you?
	Yep.
	It doesn't matter.
	I would hope so.
	Shorter than you?
	Yeah.
	You said teach you things, so more competent than you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	More status than you?
	That doesn't matter.
	Stop the cap.
	Either way, you want a guy that's better than you in most metrics, correct?
	How about you be noble and go date the homeless guy downstairs?
	I could.
	That's not a problem.
	Hold on, hold on, but why don't you do it, though?
	I don't have the time right now to do that.
	Oh, and I don't have time to raise kids that aren't mine.
	That's a choice, exactly.
	I'm tired of this shit because women will sit there And shame you for having standards and certain parameters on female behavior, but you guys will never take that same stupid nobility that y'all talk about.
	A woman will say, be noble, raise a kid that's not yours, but you ain't dating no homeless guy.
	And that's why men and women are different, like you said.
	You're not helping out these fucking weirdos that are schizophrenic, that are weirdos, that need to get sex.
	You're not helping out these school shooters that don't get laid.
	You're not helping out these motherfuckers out here.
	That literally are virgins at 30 years old.
	You're not being noble and giving them some female attention, but you expect me to sit there and give my provisioning, my security, and all my capabilities that I work my ass off to some bitch that wants to be a hoe?
	Where's your nobility?
	So you mentioned choice, right?
	Like you said earlier, what was the choice?
	You're getting held down, things happening to you.
	You don't have a choice.
	Her lying to me and not telling me the truth, I don't have a choice either.
	Because I can't walk away if I don't know the truth.
	So there's no choice there.
	At all.
	Let's put it in this perspective.
	We never tell women to be noble and look the other side and get with a guy that's lesser than them.
	We never tell women to be noble and go ahead and get with a guy that's less attractive or makes less money.
	No, we tell women, you deserve the world.
	But if a guy comes in and says, I don't want to marry a fucking hoe and I bust my ass to get to this point to have the standard.
	No!
	Be noble.
	Man up.
	Raise that kid as it is in New York.
	Wife up that whore.
	Take her seriously.
	Give her a wedding ring even though she made poor decisions in the past.
	No, fuck that shit.
	Just like you are not going to settle with a loser, I'm not going to settle with a hoe.
	And I think it's perfectly acceptable for men to have standards as well.
	But we demonize male standards and shame them and tell them to be noble and accept female fuckery.
	No!
	Absolutely not.
	Here's the change of perspective, though.
	Instead of using the word raped or whatever, let's use the word ripped, okay?
	Why do men do that?
	Why do men do that to women?
	Why do men rape women?
	It literally is like a turn-on for them.
	They find pleasure out of it, obviously, because that's their strength.
	As a male, they're Their strength is their physical strength, their mentality.
	There are a lot of things that men have that women don't, and they take advantage of it.
	That gets them off.
	So when women get raped, they're ripped of their vulnerability because that's what women have.
	Think about it.
	The...
	Not vulnerability, but women bear children.
	Men can fuck that up.
	They can fuck up their uterus, right?
	So you're taking away the quote-unquote prize of women bearing children.
	Men can't bear children on their own.
	It's the same as women doing that to men, making them raise their kid.
	They're literally put on this pedestal of, oh, now you have to be a fucking father.
	And you're like, okay, now I have to step up.
	I have to be a father.
	I have to...
	Change my career plans.
	I have to change what I'm doing with my life.
	I have to change where I put my money to.
	You're changing your entire life.
	Let's say we're talking about, like, mid-20s, right?
	So you have to change your entire life to surround your now woman, your now kid.
	Like, this is a huge responsibility.
	Like, this is a family that you're basically trying to build by your damn self because that's what you're expected of a man.
	So come, like, three years later, not even, three months later.
	That means that I'm letting the plan finish the point.
	That's what that sounds like.
	Okay.
	The kid isn't yours, so now all of that that makes you worthy is stripped of you.
	Basically what she's saying is she's agreeing with our point.
	It was a long-winded way of saying it, but she's saying a woman loses her vulnerability, a man loses her resources, and both parties are being raped of their commodity, is what she's trying to say.
	But it still doesn't take away the choice, though.
	It still doesn't take over the choice.
	If you want, you can leave her.
	If you want, you can help her with the kid.
	Most of the time, the guy doesn't know the kid is there.
	If you tell me the truth, I can make a choice.
	If I don't know the truth, I can't.
	I agree with that.
	At the end of the day, a man doesn't bust his ass, right?
	Make money, right?
	To fucking pass on his legacy to a kid who's not his.
	Because if I'm like, you know what?
	I'm gonna die one day and have, like, you know, shit going on for me.
	You know what I'm saying?
	All of a sudden, if my girl tells me, yo, this kid's not yours, then who the fuck am I gonna pass this shit on to?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because I want to make sure as a man...
	That this kid is mine, so he has the same ideals, the same values that I have, more or less.
	So if you're fucking around, let some random guy put his penis inside your vagina and squirt on that shit, you're allowing him to do that to you.
	You're trying to say something?
	Go ahead.
	Yes, the child gains their values based on how you raise them, so...
	Still, you would have influence on how the child would develop to be.
	Also, would your opinion change on that if the woman did get raped?
	If my son's girlfriend did get raped?
	No, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Ladies, ladies.
	The rape scenario was strictly to demonstrate how men feel when they raise a child that isn't theirs.
	I asked you what's your deepest fear.
	Most of you agreed, being sexually assaulted by a weirdo.
	Okay, a man's deepest fear, most of the time, is raising a kid that they thought was theirs and finding out it's not.
	That's the functional equivalent.
	That's all I illustrated that for.
	I think some ladies here on the panel understand.
	But I had to do that so you can feel the pain.
	Yeah, I understand your point.
	But I was saying, what if my son's girlfriend did get raped and the truth was just too painful for her to able to tell him?
	Well, then she needs to tell him the truth.
	In that case, that was... that was...
	Sorry about that, guys.
	You were saying that what if the daughter got raped?
	That's where she's got to be honest.
	That's where I would say that's one exception to the rule.
	Let's be honest here.
	Rates account for only about 3% of pregnancies.
	I feel like that's very similar, though, to men taking in women that already have children, because if you're over the age of 25, it's most likely that you have a child, whether you're a man or a female.
	So whether you go and date that person, you have to take the accountability of knowing this guy has a six year old daughter or this girl has a two year old son.
	So it's like, what's the difference, really?
	We're talking about they're in a relationship.
	It was presumed to be monogamous.
	He says, yo, I want a paternity test.
	She says, I'm leaving.
	And she's saying, well, it's okay.
	You should accept the kid, even if it's not yours.
	And I'm arguing that's not in the man's best interest.
	That's not what men want.
	And I would argue that that's the functional equivalent to being raped, raising a kid that isn't yours.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because men and women are very different in how we view things.
	Now, what you said about raising a child going into a relationship, I tell guys all the time, don't take single mothers seriously.
	Like, it's not in your best interest as a man.
	And when you look at it from a pragmatic standpoint, right, if you come in, you're responsible for taking care of that child, you're responsible for raising that child, protecting that child, provisioning for that child, etc.
	You have all the responsibility without any authority.
	I can't even slap that kid if he fucks up.
	It's not my kid.
	It's not my kid.
	So what is the responsibility without authority?
	It's slavery.
	I'm responsible for this kid, but I can't even exert what I want on that child.
	Now I get what you're saying.
	No, it's not like that.
	But most women, if the child isn't yours, and you come into the relationship, and you smack that kid for being an idiot, she's going to say, don't hit my kid, and I can't discipline the kid the way that I want.
	And that's a problem.
	Because I'm responsible for the kid, but I can't even raise him the way that I want.
	So it's slavery.
	So I tell guys, it's not in your best interest to raise a child that isn't yours.
	Well, and another thing is, like, I've read, like, statistics on that, and, like, I believe that it's most households where there's child abuse is a single-parent household where another parent has stepped in.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't even account for all the issues with stepfathers, etc.
	Well, that's including stepfathers.
	And also, if the kid doesn't like you, he can say, Mom, he hit me!
	You ain't my dad!
	Uncle...
	Chris hit me, Mom!
	You weren't home!
	Damn right!
	Hold on, she was trying to say something.
	You were trying to say something.
	Go ahead.
	No, I believe that a step-parent would also have to size authority over the kid.
	Assuming the original biological parent allows it.
	Yes, and they would allow it if the relationship is truly...
	You say that, right?
	Have you ever dated a single mother?
	I have friends that have.
	I'll tell you this right now, right?
	I don't know what you call it.
	Maybe call it mother instinct, but whenever a child is with a different person that's not their parent, instinctively, the woman says, you know what?
	This is my kid.
	They go into flight mode.
	If the other person, in any form or fashion, wants to punish that kid, and it doesn't align with their values, instantly she's like, no, stop it.
	Don't talk to my kid because that's her value.
	I would just say, you say that now, but in the moment of it happening, she's going to want to protect her kid at all costs.
	Most women that are with a stepfather are going to have an issue with that father displaying the kid in certain ways, unfortunately.
	That's just how it is.
	It's an innate reaction.
	Yeah, I mean...
	I mean, I'm sure her stepfather can't do certain things that her biological father can do.
	100%.
	Damn.
	100%.
	Imagine a bear and her cup.
	You think she's going to let some random person touch her cup?
	No!
	That's what it is.
	A bear would also protect the cup from the biological mother.
	But even more so, not the parent.
	Imagine that.
	No, it's not even more so actually.
	A mother would protect their child or also their husband or the biological father of the kid.
	She's taking your example literally.
	He made that example to illustrate that it's the mother bear tendencies to protect the child at all costs.
	Yes, but the example is ridiculous actually because it doesn't...
	Oh shit, ridiculous.
	I mean, because I could relate, like, my parents were divorced, but my dad had, like, I had a stepmom, and she put her hands on me, and my mom was not okay with that.
	She wanted to go to the cops and stuff, but I told her, like, at the time, I was only, like, 16, I was like, don't go to the cops, because that's just going to be more drama for me, you know?
	Like, so, my mom had to take that pain of knowing that her daughter was getting hit by, like, a stepmom, and my dad didn't care.
	My dad was like, you deserve to be hit, you know?
	So, it's different.
	So, why did your mom hit you?
	He was right.
	I'm just kidding.
	Well, you got it from the opposite angle, which is a rare situation.
	But it's normally the other way around.
	Because the thing is that the mother typically isn't Supposed to be the disciplinarian.
	Supposed to be the father's job.
	My voice said that fathers keep daughters off stripper poles and sons out of jail.
	It's a dad's job to discipline their child a lot of times.
	So when you bring in a stepfather, they're effectively stripped of one of their predominant roles as a dad.
	What the fuck would you do, man?
	Yeah.
	Like twerking?
	Yeah, yeah.
	What the fuck do you do?
	What the fuck do you do?
	I ain't no mom to hit your ass.
	Yeah, like...
	What are you doing?
	Tell me.
	I invited a boy over to the house.
	That's not my mom.
	My dad has the okay to hit me, but not a woman that didn't push me out her vagina.
	Hold on, hold on.
	She made the right move because as a woman, she knows that your value is tied to your sexuality.
	So she was right to smack your ass.
	But I was a virgin at the time.
	That don't matter.
	You deserve to be slapped even more.
	She's right because guess what?
	She was a virgin at the time.
	That's not her mom though.
	I get it.
	She deserved to get slapped.
	But it's not her mom.
	So now you guys pick and choose who gets to put hands on children.
	No, no.
	That's a good point, me.
	Yes!
	Hey, listen.
	You're a hoe, you know, like, you know, growing up, right?
	So your mom was like, yo, listen, you're a virgin, right?
	And you were fighting boys over.
	Listen, I used to be a teacher.
	So it's like, it starts from there, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, you can't be out here and find the boys, like, to your house and shit like that because your mom knew better.
	Because she was a hoe, well, what's up, mom?
	She was a hoe back in the day, so she's like, you know what?
	Like, let me be like the, you know, like, step up and, you know, and not...
	Make you be the person that she was.
	You guys have two different stances here.
	He's saying that the stepparent isn't going to have the same authority to discipline the child from a physicality standpoint.
	And then he's saying that your stepmother was right in disciplining you in a physicality standpoint because you were potentially going to have sex and lose your virginity, which would lower your value to a potential mate in the future.
	That's why your stepmother acted in the way that she did, knowing that you're a virgin.
	It's like, what the fuck are you doing?
	You're potentially throwing your future away, and you're hurting yourself.
	That's why she slapped you physically.
	And also, put it in reverse.
	Which I think was valid, by the way.
	If it was a guy that hit her, he would go to jail.
	Because he hit you.
	In that instance right there, any step-parent could be liable for like...
	Get in trouble.
	Just because they're a step parent.
	Even though it's right because you're fucking up.
	I think that overprotective parents create hoe children though.
	I feel like I came into my I was doing crazy things because of how sheltered I was growing up.
	There's a saying where a pastor's daughter or son always ends up being the worst because they're too coddled and too sheltered.
	So once they get outside, they're like, oh shit, I'm going to go crazy.
	You got a point there.
	I don't know if I agree.
	I don't know if I agree because I know people that have been raised super conservatively and they've turned out amazing.
	I think this is an excuse.
	But generally, look at pastors' sons and daughters.
	I mean, I know a pastor's daughter.
	No, no, you know one.
	But generally, how do they act?
	That's one family.
	That's a lot of kids.
	Look at the general population of pastor's daughters and sons.
	My mom raised me, right?
	And she raised me as a single mom.
	And I was not raised like a pastor's daughter.
	I mean, you raised me well.
	But she exposed me to some crazy stuff.
	And I turned out the complete opposite from her beliefs.
	I mean, therapy at 10?
	But I mean, I have very conservative beliefs in certain ways.
	And so you didn't raise me that way.
	You didn't raise me to believe in purity or any of these things.
	I actually just took it from observation of what was going on outside.
	I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm scared of what these kids are doing.
	And I don't want that life.
	I would argue, though, that you have high critical thinking skills.
	So you were able to kind of be like, mm-mm, sun's off here.
	And environment plays a role too, right?
	Like a lot of times when these people live in like...
	With restrictive parents that don't let them do certain things, but all their friends are doing it, then they want to do it.
	But if you're like in an Amish community and you don't know any better, you're like, hey, electricity, what is this?
	You're just chilling, but you don't see nobody else with iPhones.
	You're going to appreciate it a little bit more.
	I mean, the whole thing with the Password Bros is like, yo, you have a girl in Columbia, you ain't bringing her to the United States because feminism and all this other shit.
	They're going to indoctrinate her and she's going to lose the values that made her attractive to you in the first place.
	I tell y'all, if you guys are going to go foreign, you better stay your ass over there foreign.
	Because environment does play a role.
	Did anyone else have anything on this topic before?
	I have one last thing.
	Keep it surface level.
	When it comes to discipline, it also comes out of love.
	You can't really look at your step-parent disciplining you as a sense of, I'm just trying to control you.
	That step-parent is trying to earn your love and earn it through your biological parent as well.
	That biological parents see that you don't give a fuck about what my child does.
	They lose their relationship and you already lose that stepfather.
	I don't feel like you need to put your hands on a child to show them you love them.
	I'm not saying that at all.
	My parents never put their hands on me, but it's a sense of discipline.
	I think kids need to be beat.
	I genuinely think children need to be beat.
	And the reason why is because there's no better...
	There's no better teacher of bad behavior than violence, unfortunately.
	If you look at the civilized world that we're in right now, right?
	It's a monopoly of power.
	The military, the police, etc.
	You behave and follow laws because you know that there's physical consequences if you choose not to do so.
	I think parents need to be that monopoly of power and almost behave that way as if they're the police or military and get their children in line because pain is one of the best reinforcements That you're fucking up, unfortunately.
	I hate to say that.
	It's even in the Bible.
	I'm not saying beat the shit out of your kids.
	What I am saying is that sometimes they need to be smacked.
	Sometimes they need to know, hey, this is not acceptable.
	Voices need to be raised, etc.
	I mean, I was beat as a kid and it taught me a lot.
	It kept me away from doing drugs.
	It kept me away from being an alcoholic, being a loser, doing any of this stupid shit.
	Listen, bro, I'm from the Caribbean, bro.
	You get your ass beat.
	I think, I think, uh, you know, just like, just like the military and the police have the monopoly of power.
	The parents need to be the same.
	Because if your parents don't exercise being a monopoly of power on you early on, well, the police are going to do it for you, and then it's too late.
	Now you've got a criminal history.
	Now you're in jail.
	Now you're in and out.
	Now you can't get a real job, etc.
	If your father is in that first front line of defense smacking the shit out of you, who's going to smack you next?
	A police officer.
	And then you're going to jail.
	And then there's no coming back from that.
	There's no criminal history record.
	No FBI number generated.
	Rolling your fingerprint when your dad slaps you.
	but there definitely is one when the police get you oh shit, facts, bars okay, are we going to pick it up?
	yep, let's go we have Leprecoon He says, please send this to Chris.
	Shout out to Chris and I'm our producer Let Chris Henny.
	Are you sober?
	Tipsy.
	So you're on the way.
	What?
	Go ahead, read.
	I can't understand what you're saying.
	No, fine.
	Awesome.
	Okay.
	Love Inc.
	What's good, fellas?
	To the Angry Beavers, what body type would you prefer for your dream man?
	In shape, make a 30k per year.
	Dad bod, make a 70k a year.
	Or an obese piece of ish.
	Well, you mean shit.
	Make a 100k.
	Then, based on your pick, do you think you'll be an asset or burden?
	Let's go.
	Okay, ladies, real quick.
	What would you pick?
	Starting from you.
	30k a year.
	In shape.
	Dad bod, 70k.
	Fresh.
	Or obese, 100k.
	Every time Maren is not on a panel, you always start over here, okay?
	Let's start over here so Maren can get enough chance, you know, to sit over here, okay?
	Just as a producer.
	This is your show.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So it's over here.
	Thank you, Mo.
	Six.
	I mean, two?
	No, six.
	Okay.
	Let's start here.
	Thank you.
	What would you choose?
	These don't mean a lot to me.
	I make my own money, so I don't really see the value.
	If you had to make a choice, which one would you choose?
	Generally.
	One emotionally available for me.
	Okay, out of these three, which one?
	Let's say they're all emotionally available for you.
	Um...
	Today.
	Yeah, 30k per year.
	30k?
	Yeah.
	Maybe they're really happy with themselves.
	You know, take care of themselves.
	Okay, I guess you're independent.
	Well, with all due respect, you're 20, right?
	Yeah.
	20 years old.
	Would it be fair to say that you're a liberal?
	Yeah.
	Egalitarian.
	She's from a very liberal country.
	Makes her own money.
	It will change when she gets...
	She'll get more conservative when she gets older.
	With time.
	30k won't be enough.
	When she's 25, it's gonna be, ah, you know, I'm tired of making all the money.
	This shit sucks.
	Well, those emotions will pay the bills, you know, so...
	I'm a socialist.
	Shout out to emotions.
	You're what?
	So...
	Oh, okay.
	Even worse.
	Even worse.
	Socialist.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Wait, do you want to stay in the United States?
	Do you plan to stay here or are you going to go back to Holland?
	I'm just traveling.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to go back in two weeks.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So you don't plan to stay in the United States or a capitalistic country long term?
	Maybe in the future.
	Traveling alone.
	Nice.
	Alright, what are you?
	I literally hate this question because I don't want any of these men.
	But if I had to choose, I guess, dad bods.
	Dad bod making 70k a year.
	But I always say I hate that.
	Middle of the road in all aspects.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	Well, you want a 645 Chad with a great body and a millionaire?
	No, I take it back.
	I take it back.
	If I'm going to be settling, I guess just do it all the way.
	And then, like, obese guy.
	Unfortunately.
	If I'm going to be settling either way, then at least give me, like, more money, I guess.
	Who's kicking the back?
	It's Chris!
	It's Chris.
	Who's Chris?
	El Chris.
	El Chris.
	There's a switch in the back.
	Stop kicking it.
	Oh, it's working.
	Back on.
	Back on?
	On a fat swap.
	And wood.
	No, it's L-Wiring, man.
	What?
	It's a switch.
	What about you?
	Oh, I want to pass.
	You can't pass.
	You gotta choose one.
	I guess the obese guy I'd help him out I'd have to do it I'd have to do it to transform him the need for security overrides all Okay.
	For women, dude.
	I'll let all the girls go and then I'll give my quotes here.
	Synopsis?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	For you?
	I'd probably have to go dad bod.
	I don't think I could.
	Stomach.
	The other stomach.
	But, I mean, yeah, $30,000, that's...
	That's pitiful.
	That's not going to get us this far.
	Obviously, he doesn't have the ambition to do anything about it, so he's probably not going to be able to keep that body as he ages, so...
	Yeah, he's a bum.
	Like Chris.
	I don't know.
	I just couldn't physically get past the obese thing.
	I don't think I could do it.
	Okay.
	Sorry, Mo.
	I'm gonna save the obese man.
	The obese man?
	I'm gonna save him.
	I'm gonna make him lose weight.
	Okay.
	What if he doesn't want to lose weight?
	I'm gonna make him.
	How?
	You can't make somebody do something that they don't want to do.
	I want to work out every day in front of him.
	I was originally going to go with the obese man as well but then once I realized that if you help him get skinny and he's making that amount of money he might cheat on you so I'm going with the dad bod because the dad bod you can help him get like thinner but then you can also help him make a hundred thousand and then if you help him increase his like revenue and you help him lose weight he might just fuck with you forever all right Beyonce I get it, but nobody's safe.
	Did you say you want a guy that can mentor you?
	Wouldn't it be kind of contradictory to be with a man that needs your help to make more money?
	You can't only provide value through money, though.
	You can provide value spiritually, emotionally, mentally.
	Because most guys don't believe in God, so I like a guy that talks to me about God and stuff like that.
	No, they believe in God.
	They just don't believe in Scorpios and crystals and star signs.
	I'm a Scorpio, so I don't know what that means.
	What's my sign?
	You're a Libra.
	What the fuck?
	Are you?
	I am a Libra.
	I'm a psychic, so...
	No way.
	She said I'm a psychic.
	What the fuck?
	That's funny.
	I'm a Libra rising.
	Oh, you're my soulmate then?
	No, not at all.
	I'm just kidding.
	Just kidding.
	Okay, it's scary.
	Okay, no, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Yo, she got your ass.
	What is he?
	Yeah, what is he?
	He might be an Aquarius.
	Oh!
	Is he?
	That's wild.
	Is he an Aquarius wolf?
	Nah, that's wild.
	Look, man.
	I'm just trying to understand.
	He is?
	I knew it.
	Aquarius is my moon.
	So that's the toxic, and that's the, like, I don't know.
	So then, what's the Pluto?
	He already said what he was.
	He said he's a Taurus.
	What's Moe in the back?
	Moe, where are you?
	What's Moe?
	He might be an Aries.
	No?
	Or a Cancer.
	Nope.
	Two out of three.
	So she was wrong on Moe.
	There you go.
	Um...
	What I was trying to get at was, if you want a guy, I'm trying to understand how the spirituality and everything else would help them earn more money.
	It wouldn't help them earn more money, but...
	That was specifically what you said.
	You said, I would get a guy in this bracket because I'd help him make more money.
	That's specifically what you said.
	Yeah, and then you were saying, don't you like a guy that could teach you things?
	But I didn't say a guy who could teach me how to make more money, just a guy who could teach me things, period.
	So although he might not be educated on finances, he can provide value in other aspects, and then I can provide the value for the finances.
	Do you realistically want that, though?
	I don't mind.
	It's not about, do you mind?
	Would you realistically want to be with a man that you make more money than you're teaching him how to make money?
	Unless we're making, like, a business together and it makes sense, then yeah.
	But if he's not really...
	I don't know.
	It's harder when they make less money than you because I feel like you're providing more, you know?
	Yeah.
	I'm sure.
	What I'm saying is that basically...
	You know what?
	We'll continue on because...
	Go ahead.
	With all due respect, you said a bunch of nonsensical things that don't necessarily align with how the world works.
	Spirituality isn't gonna make you more money.
	If you look at...
	You said that you're psychic earlier.
	What if I walked around and said I was a warlock?
	You would look at me like I'm a retard, right?
	No, not at all.
	There's witches and shit like that that exists.
	You know what?
	You got this!
	Cast that spell!
	Let me go on a date and tell girls I'm a fucking warlock.
	They might think you're a little bit cooler now.
	But this goes to show.
	46?
	That female lunacy is absolutely acceptable in society.
	If I went around and said, I'm a warlock, everyone would laugh at me, ridicule me, I wouldn't get any dates, rightfully so, and I would have limited dating options.
	But women go around and say, oh, what's your moon sign?
	I'm a psychic, blah, blah, blah.
	And we accept it.
	Better yet, men sit there and play along.
	They just were fucking what you say.
	saying, oh, what's the same?
	What's the same?
	Dismatch.
	And you bought it.
	Are you not actually a Libra?
	Like, I was telling you.
	Yo, and you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
	Man, let me be honest with y'all ladies.
	We don't give a fuck about your star signs.
	We don't believe in any of this shit.
	You want to know why?
	Because star signs and saying that we're warlocks isn't going to get us pussy.
	It's not going to help us make more money because men have to live in a fact-based reality.
	My competency is the only thing that stands between me and mediocrity.
	One more time.
	My competency as a man is the only thing that stands between me and mediocrity.
	Women can afford to be mediocre because your looks can get you a guy that's competent.
	We can't afford to do that.
	So we have to live in a fact-based reality where performance matters.
	And I'm not saying this to make fun of you, but the reason why you can have a loony belief system like that is because you're a fairly attractive woman and...
	Attractive women don't have to live in reality, unfortunately.
	A guy can come in and save you.
	We don't get that privilege.
	So I can't sit here and say I'm a fucking warlock.
	Well, I will say one thing, though.
	There's something called Star Sang Game.
	So if you can match the Star Sang with the girl that you're dating, it might give you a better chance because you're just going to troll her the whole time, though.
	You know what?
	I'm going to do an experiment.
	I'm going to walk around and start telling girls I'm a warlock.
	I want to see what happens.
	Yeah, do it.
	You know what?
	It's not what you say, though.
	It's how you say it.
	Okay, you know what?
	We can play a game.
	I'm going to say I'm a warlock.
	You say you're a psychic.
	Let's see who gets more of the opposite gender.
	I'm going to say I'm a lawnmower.
	She's absolutely going to destroy me.
	I'll be a lawnmower.
	How dare you, Myron?
	I'm anorexic.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, you're fantastic.
	So, yeah.
	So, yeah.
	No, you're absolutely going to...
	Does that not show...
	Think about this.
	I'm not even saying this shit to, like, brag or whatever, but, like, international podcaster, famous, right?
	If I went around and told girls I'm a warlock, and then you, right, like, maybe not the same social media presence, whatever, you walked around and said, you're a psychic, you're going to absolutely smoke me and still get more dates than me.
	Like, let that sink in!
	Like, we both play the lunacy game, I have more status, etc., the things that women find attractive, but I'm still gonna limit myself by saying I'm a warlock.
	Does that not prove that men have to live in reality?
	I'm not actually a psychic, so I don't know.
	About me?
	What would I choose?
	Yeah, what would you choose?
	I would choose the dad bod as well.
	So, I think I'm pretty conservative.
	Like, I believe in, you know, monogamous relationships and I have a boyfriend and stuff like that.
	But I also want to be a lawyer and I want to make my own money.
	So, I feel like if he's making $70,000 a year, and let's say I make about the same, we make a good living, and at the same time, of course, I will be helping go to gym just like everyone else said, but...
	Yeah, I really believe that you can balance both as a woman.
	I don't think high-value women necessarily means that you just have to look good.
	I think you can balance the things, you can make a career, and you can start an awesome family.
	All right, so you're what, 20?
	20, yeah.
	20?
	Okay.
	I mean, as a lawyer, you do have to work long hours, you know, being in a courthouse or whatever.
	So can you really think that you can be a lawyer, study and everything, and still raise a family?
	Yes, I believe so.
	Well, let me ask you a better question.
	Are you more comfortable being a mediocre lawyer or a mediocre mom?
	Good question.
	I don't know, actually.
	Okay.
	Well, that's a very important question because you're going to be one of them if you choose to be a lawyer.
	I'm telling you that right now.
	You're going to have to either be a mediocre mom or a mediocre lawyer.
	That's the truth.
	Yeah, you can't.
	Let me tell you why.
	You're going to go to the law firm.
	There's going to be men that don't have to go home at 5 o'clock.
	There's going to be men that are trying to make partner.
	There's going to be men that are willing to do whatever's required to become better.
	And then there's going to be single women that don't have kids that are going to be willing to do whatever's required.
	So you've got to ask yourself, do you want to be a great lawyer who's going to put the hours in to make partner and be a shitty-ass mom because you're not home?
	Or are you going to be a great mom but be a shitty-ass lawyer that's got to leave at 3 o'clock because you've got to pick up the kids from daycare?
	Hmm.
	Does it also apply to men?
	Huh?
	Does it also apply to men?
	No, it doesn't because a man isn't...
	A father, right?
	The need to be there as a father isn't as high as for a mother, especially in the children's formative years.
	Yeah, depends, I guess.
	Like, a mother's a superior nurturer than a father in the formative years as a child.
	Like, you want the mom there over the father.
	Like, the father has to go out there and earn the money.
	Yeah.
	But then the first thing that people say whenever, like, girls are acting up when they start getting into their teen years is, like, you must not have a dad.
	That's true.
	Oh, what did I say before?
	The dad comes in as a disciplinarian.
	That's true.
	That's why fathers are critical in the teenage years.
	Yeah.
	So do you think that even if a girl does have a present father, but he doesn't put his hands on her, that that changes that relationship?
	Well, I think the mom needs to be the shit out of the daughter.
	The dad could maybe slap here or there or whatever, but I think Zaman has got to step in and slap her once she becomes a teenager or whatever.
	Or tag-team that chick.
	Tag-team my sister.
	You're next!
	She's a doctor now.
	She's successful.
	She figured it out.
	Is she happy, though?
	No, she is.
	But yeah, she got a guy, so she figured it out.
	But yeah, so which one?
	Pick one.
	Mediocre mom or mediocre lawyer then?
	I can't.
	I mean, see, I think that...
	Pick one.
	I can't pick one.
	I hope it's mediocre lawyer, man.
	Yeah.
	Goddamn.
	I mean, human life is obviously more valuable than a job, so I guess I gotta say mediocre lawyer.
	But I do think that I can take, like, I can maybe for two years help the kid and then come back to be a lawyer again.
	Why does it have to be one another?
	Yeah, you can, but all the people that you came in with are going to have lapped you.
	Laugh at me?
	Laughed.
	Laughed.
	You're not gonna have as much experience.
	You're not gonna have as much court, you know, litigate.
	Here, the reason why I know this so intimately is because I used to be an agent.
	I used to deal with lawyers.
	The best prosecutors were always the single people.
	Every time.
	Like, it just never failed.
	All the AUSAs, all the prosecutors that had families that were females, that had a husband, they were fucking gone by three o'clock, bro.
	They wouldn't take no fucking cases.
	They wouldn't do shit.
	They were lazy as fuck.
	The best prosecutors were always either men that were single or women that were, you know, career-oriented and didn't have children like that or didn't have young children.
	Top doctors, too.
	Yeah, which is how it goes.
	I have a question.
	Yeah.
	So if you're saying that she'd be a mediocre lawyer, but, like, if her husband is providing, well, at 70K, I don't know, with kids.
	I don't know.
	But I'm just wondering, like, is it a problem to, like, in a mediocre, when you say mediocre lawyer, do you mean not helping the clients to the fullest extent or not excelling in the career?
	Because apparently that doesn't matter anyway.
	If I was a defendant and I needed to defend myself in a penalty case, I would absolutely not hire a female attorney that had young children.
	Okay.
	And me as an agent, when I wanted the best prosecutors, I had a serious conspiracy case, I wouldn't go to a prosecutor that had young children.
	I would always go to the single guy or to the older AUSA that has older children that are in college.
	Then I'd be like, okay, she can do it.
	I'm not saying women aren't capable of the job.
	Some of the best AUSAs have worked with women, but they never had young children.
	That's fair.
	Cool.
	Anything else?
	Okay, mediocre lawyer.
	What was the question?
	What?
	No, 30k, 70k, and 100k.
	I mean, in shape, I guess the skinny guys.
	I love skinny guys.
	They do be having third legs, so that's awesome.
	But 30k, and at some point they're going to be having that body, so I guess I'm choosing that one.
	Sorry, Mo.
	What about you?
	I would say dad bod 70k kind of for like the expected reason like you can work your way towards making more and like you can work off the dad bod and like it's really cut you're honestly like a dad bod isn't really a turnoff as long as you like you're not dad bod like flappy and disgusting like your tone you're doing something with your life you're just let's say your metabolism is just slow some dumb shit Byron doesn't believe in slow metabolism.
	That's apparent.
	You don't control your calories properly.
	Leandra, do you prefer length or girth?
	It just so happens Fresh has both.
	Yes, sir!
	That's me.
	Oh, the psychic.
	Do you predict you and Fresh fornicating later?
	Fresh?
	Who's Fresh?
	Tammy!
	Tammy!
	You're darker than me!
	I don't want you either!
	You wear glasses inside!
	You're insecure!
	I don't want to see your eyes!
	Thank you for wearing the glasses!
	If that was a question, I like thick dicks.
	Not skinny ones.
	Fresh, if I was you, I would not take that at all.
	Come on, Fresh.
	If I was you, I would not take that at all.
	As a man of God, bro, I'm just going to...
	Fresh.
	Fresh is a man of God who donates to the church.
	Exactly.
	That escalated quickly.
	What is your type then, if you don't like Fresh?
	Drake.
	Light-skinned niggas.
	No, no, no.
	It doesn't matter.
	But I like Drake, but I also...
	I already said I like guys that can teach me things.
	But I think Fresh is a misogynist.
	I think all these men on these podcasts are misogynists.
	All of you guys are misogynists.
	Me?
	Him too?
	Okay.
	Me too?
	What about Moe?
	I don't think Moe is.
	Moe is behind the scenes.
	Real quick, real quick, real quick.
	You triggered my trap card!
	What is the definition of misogyny?
	That is a man who hates women.
	What have we said that exemplifies hatred towards women today?
	Please tell us.
	I just think it's the viewpoints that you guys have when you guys say hoes and stuff because I don't think that anybody could say what a hoe really is.
	That's just subjective.
	By definition, a hoe is a promiscuous woman.
	But it's based on what you believe promiscuous to be.
	Well, I mean, here's the thing.
	Having indiscriminate sex...
	But, like, are you Muslim?
	Yes.
	So your views are different.
	But I'm not necessarily a good Muslim.
	Right.
	I want to make that very clear.
	You're, like, a non-conventional Muslim because you have multiple women that you...
	Well, in Islamic faith, you can have multiple wives.
	But that's a whole...
	I'm not a good Muslim.
	I don't claim to be.
	So I will not, you know, use religion as an excuse.
	But, sorry, what were you saying?
	That was it.
	But I'm still trying to figure out how are we misogynist?
	What if we said that shows that we hate women?
	I just think that you guys don't value women the way that...
	I feel like no one should judge anybody.
	So for you to say that a woman is a hoe is already you judging them.
	And that's a fault in your character because you should just love and accept everybody for who they are.
	And then if you want to figure out why you believe they are a hoe, figure out what happened to them for them to be that way.
	A man can love a woman, like, regardless of that.
	It doesn't matter, like, loving a hoe.
	It's what benefits them in the long run.
	So, I'm curious.
	Have you ever called a woman a hoe?
	No.
	Or a slut?
	Or a bitch?
	People call me, like, a hoe and a slut.
	So that's why I guess I'm so passionate on it.
	But I don't believe that I am one.
	Okay, if you're not at home, then what's your body count?
	Whatever you want it to be.
	Exactly.
	And that's what makes you guys misogynistic because it shouldn't matter what my body count is because regardless of whether I have one body or a million bodies, right, for example, that doesn't take away from who I am as a person.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'm going to break the fourth wall here.
	Go ahead.
	The reason why you don't want to disclose your body count is because you know deep down in the back of your brain...
	No, I just don't know it.
	I forgot it after like 25, honestly.
	Let's keep it a stack.
	That's fine.
	What is your estimate then on it?
	I don't know.
	I don't even want to think about that, honestly.
	It's less than 100, that's for sure.
	Well, look, the point I'm trying to make is the reason why you don't want to disclose it or you're hesitant to disclose it or it's an uncomfortable topic for you is because women know deep down in the back of their brains that their value with finding a mate, not their human value, but their value with finding a mate, two different things, okay?
	And I'm not saying your personal value.
	Your value with finding a man Is intimately tied to your sexual partner account.
	This is why women have an issue disclosing it, because women know that their value is tied to that.
	So with that said, we can sit here and say, people shouldn't be judged, hoes are great too, etc.
	But the reality is biology never lies.
	Just like you want a man to be tall, to be competent, to have money, to have status, to have certain things in place, men want something in return.
	A lot of the times, that's a non-promiscuous woman.
	So my question is this.
	Would it be fair for me to call you a misandrist?
	That I hate men?
	Oh, you don't even know what misandrist means.
	I know.
	It means the hate of women.
	It's the complete opposite.
	Would it be fair for me to call you a misandrist?
	No, I don't hate women.
	No, men.
	Oh, okay, yeah, that's what I said, if I hate men.
	Yeah, no, I don't hate men.
	But you have standards that ostracize a bunch of men from dating you by your standards.
	But she doesn't hold double standards.
	Right, I've dated men that were bums, like the majority of the guys still in the same place being bums.
	But they're not with you, correct?
	Yeah, because...
	So would it be fair to say that your standards filtered those guys out?
	Yeah, but it's not based on sexuality.
	It's just based on characteristics and goals and motivation and stuff.
	Fair.
	Characteristics and motivation, etc.
	Which is what your standards are aligned with, right?
	Okay.
	What if a man's standards are different than yours?
	Then I don't want that man.
	Because I'm talking to this one guy right now and he has like more bodies than me.
	He has like 135 or something, but he's confident in his sexuality and he fucks with me.
	You feel me?
	So I feel like a confident man is going to, regardless of whether society believes they're a hoe or not, they're going to...
	Hold on.
	Do you not just...
	You know you just made my point for me, right?
	What?
	You didn't even see it.
	What happened?
	You literally just made my point for me.
	What happened?
	What's the point?
	Did anyone else here in the chat just prove my point for me?
	You didn't get it?
	He has a lot of bodies.
	That proves my point that men and women value different things.
	A man with a high body count is not the same as a woman with a high body count.
	That guy having sex with 130 women prepared him to be attractive to attract you.
	Guys that can have sex with a lot of women have traits and are doing things correctly.
	Men must have value to get sex.
	Women lose value when they have sex.
	Like, do you not understand that there is a double standard that exists, and men and women have different standards, and his sexuality doesn't matter to you, but your sexuality definitely matters to him?
	This specific guy doesn't, though, because he's talking to her as well.
	Right.
	For sex only.
	Yeah, for sex only.
	No, not for sex only.
	No, because we didn't have sex for, like, two weeks.
	I mean, he was fucking all the girls, man, for, like...
	We're not in a relationship, so that's okay.
	Yeah, it's good for him.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	We gotta stop the cap, and this is why I love to ask this at the top of the show.
	At the top of the show, I asked you what your relationship status was, and you emphatically said single.
	I am single.
	If you ask him, he says he's single, too.
	But we're talking.
	Talking to get to something.
	You're fucking.
	We are fucking.
	We fucked right before this, and it was great.
	Period.
	Did you...
	Oh, man.
	Does everyone else see what's going on here?
	Am I the only...
	No, no, no.
	Do the ladies here see what's going on here?
	Yes.
	I know she does.
	She does.
	The guy is selling you a dream to continue to have sexual access to you.
	No.
	I just think that he's different from you guys.
	Why are the only women on the panel agreeing with what I'm saying?
	Wait, what makes him different?
	Because he doesn't have the same mindset that they believe.
	You know what's funny about this, right?
	Is that guys think like us, but they will never tell you this to your face.
	He's just a different man, though.
	I don't believe that he's the same to you guys.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	No one knows I do this show.
	I get what I want.
	How old is this guy?
	He's 26.
	I'm 23.
	I'm about to give you so much game right now.
	Do you understand, for him to be at 26 years old with 130 plus sexual partners, he has to understand unflattering realities about female nature and understand, accept them, and sell a certain dream to be sexually attractive and be able to market himself to a way that you will not see him as a fuckboy?
	Do you not see that?
	I have a question.
	I really want you to grasp this concept.
	The average guy that's 18 to 30 years old hasn't had sex in a year or is a virgin.
	If a man is able to have sex with 130 plus women at 26 years old, he's pretty damn good at selling the dream and telling girls what they want to hear.
	Do you not think that you're another woman that he's telling what they want to hear so he's not labeled as a massager and get sexual access to you?
	I feel like if I say no, you're going to call me dumb.
	But I believe no, because we have that connection where we talk and we talk about God and stuff like that.
	Let me give you another dirty little secret.
	Let me give you one other dirty secret.
	Is it you fresh?
	Is it you fresh?
	You fucking are fresh?
	What?
	All right, go, Mara.
	Let me give you one more dirty little secret.
	And I want all the ladies here at the panel to take this.
	If a man has over a hundred sexual partners He's going to have what you might deem misogynistic or toxic traits.
	That's what makes him sexually arousing in the first fucking place.
	That's not true.
	It's about what you go through.
	So question, what does he do for work?
	I'm sorry?
	What does he do for work?
	Oh, he's a videographer.
	He does music videos for people.
	Yeah, he fucks.
	He fucks.
	Sorry to say it, man.
	Wait, you're all right.
	Yeah, baby girl, you know what?
	I'm mad with God.
	Wait, no, no, no.
	This letter.
	This letter.
	It don't even matter.
	This letter.
	I don't think so.
	It's a T. It's not L. It's T? It's a T. Does he do rap videos?
	Yeah, Drew.
	Drew filmed it?
	No, no, no!
	I said T, you're gonna say D? Oh, I think...
	No.
	Does he know Drew filmed it?
	I don't know.
	I just met him like two weeks ago.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You said you met the guy that you're talking to two weeks ago?
	Yeah.
	Oh, girl.
	I'm sorry.
	Get out of there.
	In any case, this is funny because you call a misogynist, but...
	Your own life shows that you like misogynists.
	I live a wild life, but I've met enough men that I know that this guy is the one.
	No, maybe not the one, but he's different from all the other men that I've met.
	I do want a relationship with him.
	If we didn't do this show, you wouldn't know anything about us.
	You assume off of clips that you've seen about us.
	I've actually really never watched the podcast, to be honest.
	But you have an idea of us from what you've seen.
	You've never seen this guy before in your life.
	You met him two weeks ago.
	Which means, he can be lying to you right now, you won't even know.
	I flew out here.
	I flew out here to see him.
	So that's why I'm out here.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Did he pay for my flight?
	Yeah, he did.
	Okay, at least.
	Listen, I play tweets all the time.
	Listen, bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh.
	I'm going to tell you this right now.
	Have fun.
	Thank you.
	But it is what it is.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	It's my world.
	I mean, he won't tell you the truth, but I'm going to tell you how it is what it is.
	I told her at the top of the show.
	She asked me.
	And here's the thing.
	What do you do for a guy that has everything?
	I'm willing to bet that she's probably describing this guy right now.
	She flew her out here to Miami.
	I mean, she's not bad looking, but come on, man.
	Okay, he has 153 bodies.
	How your sex is going to stand out?
	How you can even make that possible?
	153 females riding you, sucking your dick.
	He has experience.
	How would you make the sex stand out?
	Tell me.
	I don't think she knows.
	That's why she asked the question.
	No, no, no, but I'm curious about her.
	I mean I'm more of like personality but I mean W.R.I.S.
	Yes sir No no no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no No no At a certain level I'm curious It is a connection though Like, all the moves, whatever, it's cool, but it's a connection at a certain point.
	At that point, knowing that you have 153 bodies, I wouldn't just be, like, all sex, because, damn, you have a lot of experience, and, like, I will, like, stand out, like, with personality.
	Like, you know, but I don't know if he's gonna say, like, damn, 153 bodies.
	Nah, nigga, you lost.
	It's kind of my question.
	I just want to say this real fast because look, man, if you want to be delusional, that's totally cool.
	But this is the cold, hard reality.
	He's fucking other girls.
	He's never going to take you seriously.
	He just flew you out as a side piece.
	And the reality is, is that guys like him typically don't settle.
	And from to be 26 years old and have 130 plus bodies, that means that he probably agrees with most of, if not everything we say, because the reality is to attract the most women.
	You have to have misogynistic traits.
	That's what women are turned out by.
	There's a reason why a nice guy is finished last.
	Women don't respect chivalry anymore.
	They want bad boys.
	He's a nice guy though.
	He's nice to you, right?
	In certain regards, and he's selling you a dream that there might be something there, but you're just a chick that he flew out to fuck, man.
	Like, I can't believe that you don't...
	I mean...
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Where do you live?
	You don't live here.
	I live in LA, yeah.
	So this is your first time meeting him?
	No, I met him in LA. Well, we met in February.
	I was booked for a music video that he was doing videography for.
	And then we followed each other on social media, I guess, in February.
	And then in July, he hit me up.
	Okay, wait.
	I'm sorry not to cut you off, but that's kind of fading away from my question.
	No, I'm getting there.
	So then in July, he hits me up.
	He's like, hey, I'm going to be in LA. I do YouTube.
	Let's do a YouTube video.
	So I invite him over.
	And that day, we just hit it off really well.
	Wait, hit it off like in...
	That's when I found out he had 130 bodies.
	We were doing an interview.
	He was asking me crazy questions.
	What I'm saying is that your boyfriend, sorry, this guy, you called us misogynists.
	I promise you, he agrees with 99% of the things that we say behind closed doors.
	He just will never tell you.
	Because the very reason why he was able to get those women is by having mindsets like us.
	Do you not understand that?
	Guys that are good with women inherently have certain traits.
	And one of the biggest ones, spoiler alert, they don't think women are equals.
	That's what makes them attractive.
	They take leadership.
	They're dominant.
	They're assertive.
	They exemplify all the traits that show the polarity that women are attracted to.
	The reason why these guys that you call are misogynistic, the reason why guys that are misogynistic are attractive is because they don't believe in equality.
	He doesn't treat you like equal, which is why you're attracted to him.
	Like, I'm gonna say this right now.
	I wish you the best, but let us know how it goes, okay?
	That's it, because we can't say it.
	No, because my thing is, like, if you're gonna call us a misogynist, like, prove it.
	Like, how are we misogynist when the guy that you're with...
	Did you get offended by me calling you that, though?
	No, it's just like, if you're gonna make an accusation like that, and a assertion...
	You gotta back it up.
	Back it up.
	I just feel like you guys go so hard to prove that a woman is a hoe or whatever the case is and it's like you guys aren't open to...
	I mean, no.
	No, we fuck hoes too.
	I don't think she's a hoe or she's a hoe because I see them here.
	They're covered up.
	They're modest, whatever.
	And I see you.
	You have a piercing here, a piercing here, a piercing here.
	Why does that make me a hoe though?
	Because most girls that I fuck on one I said...
	You guys are generalizing and that's what makes you a misogynist.
	I mean, if you ask me a question, then it's what it is.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'm born on Race County Day, though, right?
	This a hood, ain't it?
	Yeah, it's a hood.
	Hey, listen.
	I fuck girls like you all the time, all right?
	So, at the end of the day, I see you.
	You just said you don't want your body count.
	What is your body count?
	See?
	Tell me.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Good.
	Yours?
	That's great.
	Under 10.
	Alright, so then, I'm sorry to say, like, we let you talk all the time.
	You're like, you know, I like cats.
	Whatever you want to be.
	Listen, I love girls like you to fuck.
	And probably afterwards is fine.
	But at the end of the day, you are setting yourself up for a reason.
	That's fine.
	I just feel like...
	I'm sorry.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Sorry, Fresh.
	Do you have any tats?
	No.
	None.
	I just wouldn't take what you're saying seriously because you're not even a guy that I would pursue anyway.
	So it's like what you're saying holds no weight.
	I just want to address the main point that she made here that she said that we hate hoes.
	We've never said that we hate hoes.
	We've never said that we hate women.
	All I'm simply saying is that There's studies, there's literally statistics that show that promiscuous women are not good long-term partners for marriage.
	That's all I'm saying.
	So they're not the best bet to commit to.
	I'm not saying don't hook up with them.
	I'm not saying don't show them attention.
	I'm not saying don't spend time with them.
	But when it comes to marriage or something very serious...
	They're just not the best candidates, unfortunately.
	And that's a statistical fact that is not my opinion, that is not misogynistic, that is realistic.
	To be real, we love holes for fun.
	And you're hot!
	That's all I gotta say.
	Do you have another point to show that we're misogynist then?
	No, that's it.
	It seems to me like standards to you are what's misogynistic, but I would argue that you're misogynist by that standard, because You have standards that disqualify a bunch of men.
	If we have standards that disqualify women that are promiscuous, that doesn't make us misogynistic.
	That makes us have standards.
	She mentioned, I feel like, from what you guys preach, she has no concrete evidence.
	Fair enough.
	We got some more chats here, right?
	Chris will be happy and owe nothing.
	Are you telling me the hot chick sitting on Chris's left was 300 pounds?
	Get the fuck out of here.
	Get out the lie detector.
	FNF. Gang, we don't like frosters, but it's true.
	I applaud you.
	Girls come on the show.
	Lie, shame, cope, or claim a JD degree while they do what?
	Well, I mean, that's not really a flex to say I used to be 300 pounds.
	Ben or the offender?
	I'm 23, 6 foot, 125 pounds.
	How many pounds of muscle should I put on to be an ideal weight?
	My friend, you need to 6 feet.
	I mean, you can look good anywhere between 170 to 200.
	Uh, John goes, uh, have you heard of Tom Holland in The Crown of Rome?
	That boy's no longer a high-value man.
	Yeah, I mean, again, yeah, that was a gay scene, but whatever.
	Zendaya got millions to live out her slave play fantasy.
	Most black women do it for free.
	We've seen that when Nick was on the show.
	She chose money over her relationship.
	Do you have anything you want to say to that, Ms.
	Actress?
	Do you agree or disagree?
	Um, I have no comment.
	Okay.
	And then last but not least...
	Shout out to you, bro.
	And then...
	Rumble Rants?
	Yes.
	And then we'll get the last thoughts from the ladies.
	We're going to close it out here.
	We need a special edition live stream with text-to-speech enabled so that the chat can get their input in real time.
	That'll hurt the quality of the show, bro.
	Significantly.
	Talk to...
	If we did it, rumble only anyway.
	Yeah, it would be rumble only if we did it.
	Imagine 90% of women could only mate with 40% of men.
	You have to pick one sister wife at this table to share your man with for life.
	Which girl would you pick and explain why you can't pick a friend?
	Okay, this is actually an indecent one to end the show with.
	Alright, ladies.
	You can mate with only 40% of...
	Okay, you can have one sister wife at the table and you gotta share one guy.
	Okay.
	Who would you pick, ladies?
	And why?
	I'd pick her, the mom, because she would probably be a great wife and mother and all of the above.
	I mean, she is a wife and mother.
	We'll start here.
	What was that, Mo?
	She's just a mother.
	I would pick Penelope because I know I don't gotta go worrying about if she's gonna...
	I don't know.
	I don't know any of these people except Haley.
	But anyways, moving on.
	I will pick Penelope because I don't have to worry about, okay, we have to be sister-wise.
	I don't have to think twice about if I'm gonna, you know, if she's gonna be dirty.
	I don't have to think twice of her disrespecting me because I can already see we have very similar morals.
	She has, like, good head on her shoulders when it comes to her health, when it comes to, like, society and standards for herself.
	What about you?
	Penelope as well.
	I think you have a good role model that it's your mom, so I wouldn't be worried about you.
	So yeah, I will pick you.
	What about you, Miss Estonia?
	I think I would pick you too, honestly.
	Yeah, I think you would be great at that.
	I mean, if I had to do that.
	Would you all pick her?
	Would all of you pick her?
	Raise your hand if you have something different.
	If you would not pick Penelope as your sister would.
	I said her mom.
	I know, I can't choose Penelope.
	I probably would choose Jen.
	Okay.
	She's really into health.
	Wait, hold on, hold on, real quick.
	All the girls pick the girl with the low body count.
	Are they misogynists too?
	Oh, shit.
	Um...
	I'm a microbiologist.
	I don't know.
	I've had girls stop being my friends because they're like, oh, you have high body count.
	So that means if guys look at us, they're going to think we're hoes too.
	And I think that's the most insecure thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
	Because if you don't have the confidence to be friends with a hoe or something, then you just don't.
	So you are a hoe.
	If we're going to call myself a ho, then you...
	Hey, you're fresh!
	Not us!
	We love hoes!
	We didn't call you hoes!
	You're fresh!
	Yo, we love hoes, alright?
	Let's confirm what I've said a million times.
	I've said it before, and I'll say it one more time.
	There is no bigger slut shamer than women themselves.
	Thank you.
	It is the women that slut shame other women, not men.
	Who would you be a sister wife?
	When it comes to their situation, what they got going, girls don't want to associate with promiscuous women because it brings problems.
	It's girls that discriminate the most against hoes.
	It's not men.
	Bro, most guys are doing what your dude is doing.
	Shutting their mouth, flying you out, come out, let's hang, yeah, solo dream.
	It's the women that shame girls for being hoes.
	We're gonna have a good vibe, good energy, you know.
	But I think that's for selfish reasons, like, that women do that.
	I feel like sometimes they think they're in competition with each other, so they don't...
	They might think that Penelope is not a threat to them, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, Penelope might not steal your man, but she might be like a good friend.
	Y'all are sister wives.
	There's nothing to steal.
	That's why this question was so good.
	The point I'm trying to make is, even when women are given a choice, they don't pick hoes.
	Are they misogynists too?
	Misogony.
	Checkmate, man.
	With that said, we will go ahead and end the show, guys.
	It's 12.30.
	We gotta get the ladies out of here.
	That's all of it.
	Guys, all ladies' Instagrams are below.
	Feel free to send them A dick pic, I think.
	Some of them are single.
	We'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh to Fit.
	On Friday, we're going to have Psych Hacks in the house.
	Red Pill Psychiatrist.
	We're going to have him on.
	It's going to be lit.
	Next week, we're going to have Jackson Hinkle and maybe another special guest for y'all, man.
	We're going everywhere, man.
	Psychology, geopolitics.
	Chris, where can I find you, bro?
	Merch gang.
	On IG, man.
	Just follow me.
	I'm posting constantly.
	Shout out to the girls on the panel.
	You guys have been a good panel, diverse, very lit, very intuitive.
	I've been reading the chat.
	Other than that, man, fuck it, man.
	Tennessee.
	Thank you for niggifying the podcast for us.
	We appreciate it.
	We'll catch you guys.
	Peace.

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