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What RULES Should YOUR Son Have On His Woman To Avoid Heartbreak?
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Guys, welcome to the Frustrated Podcast.
After our edition, we're joined by six lovely ladies.
Let's get into it.
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What do you do?
How many cares, bro?
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Kind of hot.
In the night.
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This guy, man, he knows he's going to talk and he still messes up.
That's funny.
Hey guys, just so y'all know, we're going to have to end the show at 12 because we got some things behind the scenes that we got to make sure that we get done.
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You can go to the club.
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And also, you got two hours earlier of some great value.
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With Steven from accounting.
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Real stuff that's going to save you thousands upon thousands of dollars in the future if you decide to go the entrepreneur route.
Or if you want to just do a side hustle, we teach you how to appropriately set up a business as well so you don't get destroyed.
It's not millions.
But without further ado, ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, your body count, we're going to start right here.
Welcome back.
Is that a destiny?
Hey, I'm Maria Rosa.
I'm a singer.
I'm a songwriter.
Wait, how old are you?
I'm 22.
Where are you from?
I'm Venezuelan.
Okay.
And then you said you're a singer and songwriter, right?
Yeah, and a DJ, too.
Okay.
All right.
Highest education level completed?
High school.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then relationship status?
I have an open relationship right now.
Wait, weren't you on Zirka's stream?
Uh, yeah.
Why?
Is it open on your end or both of you guys?
Both.
And who wanted it to be open?
You or him?
Both.
He's Arnold, you know, he's a DJ too.
Okay.
He's Cuban and he's from Miami.
Wait a minute!
He has blue hair too.
Wait, is it what I think it is?
Yeah, Arnold.
Nano?
No, Arnold.
Oh, no.
I don't know Arnold.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Battelle.
Batel?
Yes.
How old are you?
I'm 31.
Wait, 31?
Where are you from?
I'm Israeli.
I'm from Israel.
Okay.
Alright.
What part of Israel are you from?
From Tel Aviv.
Tel Aviv?
Nice.
And then, what do you do for it?
I do marketing.
Marketing?
Web design.
Okay.
Marketing, you said for graphic design?
Yeah, web design.
Oh, web design.
Alright, cool.
And then, what's your highest education level completed?
High school, and then I also served in the military.
Okay.
Mandatory, right?
In Israel?
Yes.
For two years, if I'm not mistaken?
Yes.
Wow, of course.
What did you do in the military?
What was your job in the military?
Did they give you guys MLS? I did accounting.
Oh, okay.
Thanks, of course.
Shut up, Chris.
Went through schooling.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, sorry.
What was that?
I went through schooling in the military for accounting.
Okay.
Yeah.
Cool.
And then what's your relationship status?
I'm single.
Okay.
How long you been in America now?
Almost nine years.
Oh, okay.
Alright, so you're dual citizen probably, right?
You're an American citizen in Israeli?
Okay, cool.
Are you a fan of art?
Of who?
Art.
I don't know.
Okay.
I was just curious.
No, you might like art, you know, because of, uh, anyhow.
What's going on?
What about you?
What's your name?
I'm Tiffany.
I'm 24.
Tiffany, okay.
I forgot the question.
You're good.
24, where are you originally from?
My parents are Nigerian and I'm from Georgia.
Okay.
What part of Georgia?
Okay.
Do you live in Miami now or are you just visiting?
I live in Miami.
I've been here five years.
Oh, okay.
All right.
What do you do for it?
I am part-time server, full-time student.
Okay.
Pursuing your bachelor's degree or master?
Doctorate.
Doctorate.
Okay.
Server and student.
Okay.
What do you...
Well, first, where did you get your undergrad from?
FIU. Okay.
And?
Pre-occupational therapy and psychology.
Okay.
And then are you pursuing...
Did you get a master's degree as well?
No, I'm working...
It's a program where I'm working straight to my doctorate.
Okay, gotcha.
A four-year program, I'm guessing?
Three.
It's a three-year.
Okay.
And doctorate and what?
Psychiatrist?
Occupational therapy.
Occupational therapy.
Okay.
All right, so it's one of those.
When you graduate, are you going to get two degrees?
Are you going to get a master's and a PhD?
Or are you just going to finish as a PhD?
Just straight PhD.
Okay.
I'm a PhD.
All right, cool.
And then what's your relationship status?
Single.
All right.
And PhD candidate for occupational therapy, right?
Yes.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Sasha.
I'm from Russia.
My highest education...
How old are you?
27.
27?
Okay, what part of Russia are you from?
It's called Chulabinsk.
Not many people know about it.
Okay.
How long have you been in Miami?
In Miami, six years.
Okay.
What do you do for it?
I'm a bartender and I just graduated actually in the beginning of this month with my second bachelor degree and I'm looking for a job in the industry.
Okay, so you have two bachelor degrees.
Yeah.
What do you have them in?
Psychology and then information technology.
Okay.
Where'd you get them from?
FIU. Okay.
Do y'all know each other?
Yeah, we're my friends.
I'm curious.
Were you guys nervous to come?
Yeah.
I always did a couple.
That's what she said.
What's your relationship status?
Single.
What had y'all shook to come?
Out of curiosity.
Because I can tell a lot of us from FIU were like, yo, I hate that show.
Oh my goodness.
What had y'all worried?
You can keep it straight with us.
I know we have a scary reputation.
Yeah, but we're adventurous.
We just, you know, live life.
Just go for it?
Yeah.
You have to.
Who said no?
Who said yes?
Who decided to, like, actually go?
I mean, we were both about it, but we just had our, like, reservations.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is it a video you saw or something you saw on TikTok?
I heard some things.
I know somebody who's been on it before, and I've seen some episodes.
Oh, shit.
Okay, question.
What'd you hear, though?
One thing you heard.
I heard that you guys are misogynists.
No way!
Really?
Misogynist.
That we hate women?
Yeah, that you guys hate women.
Who would say that?
Honestly...
For me, it's the book.
It's the book for me.
I'm scared.
I want to read it just to be like, what's going on here?
So the title just turned y'all off.
Yeah, because I don't know what the book is about, but I think women doesn't have the world.
Gold Queen.
Have you read it?
No, but, like, I've been on the show multiple times, so, like, everything y'all heard, I can personally say, like, it's really not that.
Like, a 30-second clip that you see on Instagram or TikTok is only a 30-second clip.
I watched, like, full podcasts.
I agree with a lot of things, but I also disagree with a lot of things.
Okay.
What do you disagree with in particular?
Um...
Women don't deserve less.
Actually, in particular, I don't think high value men should be allowed to cheat and get away with certain things just because they're men or because they have money.
Alright.
Is that it?
No.
We can get into it later.
We can move on right now.
You can go ahead and say it.
It's fine.
I'm going to touch upon introducing everybody.
What else did you disagree with?
You don't agree that high volume men should be able to do whatever.
You think women deserve more, and then what was the last thing?
I don't think women should just shut up and listen to men.
Shut up, bitch!
I think women with careers are not masculine.
I think it's okay to be masculine and feminine.
Honestly, I could go on and on, but I don't want to hijack the show.
Do you want to move on?
Do you think women should be able to be masculine?
I think everybody, women and men, should be able to be masculine and feminine.
Go back and forth.
You kind of adjust to your environment and the situation that you're in.
It's a social construct.
Gender is a social construct.
Gender roles.
Like gender roles.
Okay, roles.
Not gender.
Not gender.
So you think gender roles are a social construct?
Of course.
Interesting.
Anything else?
No.
Nothing else you agree with?
Disagree with.
Or sorry, disagree with?
I mean, if we get to it, I'll let you know if I disagree with it.
All right.
What about you?
Hey, y'all!
Hey, guys.
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
Thank you, thank you.
My name's Anika.
I'm 25 years old.
I'm from Orlando, Florida.
And I do Playboy and music videos and modeling.
And just got into acting and got casted for my first TV show.
Wait, what show is it?
Can you say it or no?
I can't say it.
You can't say it?
I can't say it.
Is it reality or just regular?
What?
Is it like a reality show or is it like...
Oh, it's like an actual TV show.
Like I have an actual character that I'm portraying.
I will say what her name is.
Her name is Amari, but that's all I can tell y'all.
Cool.
But yeah, it's a whole...
They asked me if I was SAG certified, but because of the strike, we're supposed to start production.
Oh yeah, there's a strike.
Yeah.
Michael Blackson on.
He spoke about that strike with all the actors.
Yeah, they asked me if I was a part of the strike.
I told them, I was like, I understand the movement.
I'm all for it.
But honestly, I'm not rich enough yet to decline any work, so I'll take what I can get.
But production did get moved back just because of the strike.
So hopefully and soon everyone gets what they want and there's a happy solution.
Okay.
And then highest education level completed?
High school.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
I am dating someone.
Okay.
Nice.
How long y'all been together?
It's like new, like May.
How'd you meet him?
Three mutual friends.
Did he see you on the show?
He actually doesn't really care for y'all.
But I told him, I was like, nah babe, I fuck with him, so I'm gonna go back on.
I think it's cool.
So he's gonna watch it.
I told him, after I get off, you have to watch the episode.
Okay.
He doesn't like us.
He thinks that we're probably...
And he is Haitian, actually.
Yes, sir!
It's our first Haitian!
Yes, sir!
It's our first Haitian, and I am loving it!
He doesn't agree with our views, I'm guessing?
He's just never really...
Same thing.
He's never really watched an actual full episode.
He just sees clips.
I told him, I was like, babe, you've only seen clips, but if they were disrespectful or if they were assholes, I wouldn't...
I like the conversations.
I feel like stuff you guys say makes sense.
And there's nothing wrong with a friendly debate.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
What about you?
My name is Gigi Dior.
I am 41.
I was born in Chicago.
Where did you spend most of your years?
I kind of split it.
I split it between a couple of different places.
Kansas, New York, Chicago.
Okay.
So kind of a little bit of everywhere.
What did you like go to high school, I guess?
Two different states.
Kansas and New York.
Okay.
So you've been all over.
Yeah.
Alright.
Where's home for you, then, of the three?
Right now, I split my time between New York and Florida.
Okay.
So I'm really everywhere.
Are we talking like New York City?
Yeah.
What part of the city are you from?
Brooklyn.
Oh, shit.
Where the hipsters are at.
Well, it's going through a lot of gentrification.
What do you do for her?
I am a porn star.
Oh, okay.
Just put it out there.
I just put it out there.
It explains where she's all over.
Okay.
No, but remember, she was at SauceCast.
SauceCast, yeah.
And I started with Adult Star last time.
Yeah, she was there.
Yeah, I was in SauceCast Live.
Forgive me, my memory is really bad.
No, no, I'm single.
Are you single?
Yeah.
I had an ex-husband we talked about.
There you go.
I had an ex-husband, so, yeah.
Oh, the live show.
The live show, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The very first live one.
Okay, because I'm like, in my head, like, wait, what are you talking about?
Okay, yeah, we have like 20-something girls there.
Okay.
There was a lot of girls.
There was like 30, I think.
So how long have you been in the industry?
Three years.
Oh, okay.
So recent.
Yeah.
All right.
And what'd you do before that?
I was a business entrepreneur.
What kind of business did you have?
I had a tanning salon, barbershop, real estate.
I have done real estate transactions.
I flipped houses.
What made you go for business?
I can't say the word on YouTube, but it starts with the C and ends with 19.
Oh!
So you were doing business and you were taking it to get real business.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, okay, cool.
Okay.
Yep, yep, exactly.
Okay, so you were, okay.
Because, yeah, for you to enter in at, because you entered at 38, right?
Correct.
For 48, not 41-0?
Yeah, 41.
And then what's your relationship status?
A single.
All right.
She belongs to the streets!
She ended up taking the business, you know what I mean?
I am, I am.
Okay, cool.
Interesting.
Okay, so we already got 6,000 of y'all watching on YouTube alone.
I don't know how many on Rumble, but We're good
to go.
Cruxy, I love this question.
Ladies, what did you hear about the show before coming on?
Okay, so they want the rest of the girls to answer this question.
But some of them have been on before, man.
Yeah, they kind of know.
They kind of know, yeah.
They kind of know.
Question, Cam, two times.
Question, ladies.
At what age would you be okay with your son dating a girl?
And what age would you be okay with your daughter dating a boy?
Ladies, ask the men the same question.
Okay, so we could go on the table.
We could start here and then work our way.
At what age would you be okay with your son dating?
And then what age would you be okay with your daughter dating?
Oh, grandson.
Wow.
Ooh, low blow.
So...
Wait, is he a misogynist?
Or us?
I think he is.
The guy behind the screen.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, it's okay.
I would say it's the same for both.
What's that age?
I would say high school, so freshman, sophomore year, when you can actually start to...
14 and 15?
Yeah, I'd say 15.
15, 16.
Okay.
What about you?
Um, I say the same thing, 15, 16, right?
When they're, like, in high school, a little bit, just because, like, they're human, they've got feelings.
For both genders?
For both genders, yes.
Okay.
What about you?
Man, if it's innocent, um, you can date in kindergarten.
Wait, what?
But, like, innocent.
Like, oh, this, like, holding hands.
That's how it starts, though.
That's sweet.
Yo, you wildin' bruh.
Whenever they're ready.
And I was called grandma.
When in Russia did they start dating?
Honestly, in Russia, very early, my parents got married when they were 20.
So they were dating for a while.
I don't know.
I mean, since you're like 11, maybe.
Shraggy?
So in your take, you think they could start dating in kindergarten?
They can start dating whenever they're ready.
I mean, if you're the mom, we're asking you your opinion if you're the mother.
Sure.
If they want to date in kindergarten, they can date in kindergarten.
Okay.
You different, man.
Goddamn!
Alright, what about you?
And that's for both genders, by the way, right?
Yeah, no difference.
Alright, what about you?
They can start dating supervised at 15.
Supervised at 15?
Supervised at 15.
So are you going to be there the whole time?
You're going to chaperone it?
Um, I mean, if you go to the movies, I might watch a different movie, you know?
Alright, so you'll be at the movie theater, but you won't be in the same theater, maybe.
Yeah.
How do you know what's going on there?
I mean, I don't need to know what's going on.
Yeah, that's not really supervised.
Two seats to the left.
Nah.
You might as well just leave and go back home and pick them up.
I mean, I could do that, too.
I could do that, too.
I mean, supervise in the sense that I'm driving them and, like, I'm picking them up.
They can't leave.
They can't drive.
That's on them.
So you got Nigerian parents, right?
What age did they let you date?
I mean...
I know, it was an old 15.
I mean, it was never really a thing.
I never really asked today.
You just did it?
Just do it, yeah.
You don't have a real Nigerian parents, man.
No, my mom is very much Nigerian.
She moved here when she was in her 20s.
She knows the way.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
I would say 17, 18.
For both?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
For Israel, what age is it normally?
I mean, it depends.
It depends who we're asking because it's a very diverse country and you have the more of the liberal side and the conservative side.
So the more orthodox religious people, they would start dating probably around the age that they get off high school so they can get married as soon as possible.
And with the liberal side, it depends.
I mean, some people, they date when they're 14, 15, but I mean, I don't know.
I don't really like that idea.
So yeah, I would stick to 17, 18, when you start to form a mind.
Cool.
All right.
And what about you?
For a daughter to date at a young age, I don't like it.
So I will say I want my daughter to date in her 20s.
20s?
Yeah.
And then for a son?
For a son, probably he's 17, 16, whenever he wants.
Okay.
Okay, so pretty much it looks like to me you're the only person that has a different age per gender.
The rest of you guys pretty much think it's between both genders, same age?
I mean...
Go ahead.
I kind of thought about it.
I feel like my boy could probably date, like, maybe like a year or two younger, but I'd also, that way I could, like, teach him on how to court a lady at a younger age, I guess.
So your son could date younger?
Yeah.
Because you originally gave 15 and 16.
Yeah, both of them the same, but yeah, no, I say that the son can date younger.
Even before that?
Even before 15?
Your answer was 15 to 16 for both.
Okay, I'll leave it at the same time.
I forgot your answer already.
Yeah, I did.
I'm not gonna lie.
Alright, fantastic.
Alright, so I got a question for the ladies.
Actually, no, I'll read some of the super tests and I'll get into my line of questioning here.
Buy one BBL, get one free.
And remember guys, 20 and up from this point forward.
Remember when a certain podcast said that you guys is very niche and corny, that you will struggle to grow a fan base based on your views.
Well, congrats on passing that podcast.
The subscribers wrote the 2 million.
Wait, is it...
I think it is...
I don't know who he's talking about.
I don't know.
That's how far past creators we are.
Screech.
No, I don't think so.
Mo will tell me and talk back.
Mo, just tell me.
Ashley O goes, funny how all these ladies want a Mr.
Gray, but they are so far from Anna Steele.
She was a 21-year-old beautiful broke virgin who got the billionaire, not a 3-0, not a hoe.
All right.
Thanks, bro.
1929G, is it grippy?
Don't know.
Marriage, cause, divorce.
Ladies, choose two of the following three options.
One, a relationship with Drake, but you pay for everything.
Two, access to Drake's properties and money.
Three, having Drake's kids and getting child support.
It's actually a good question.
Drake?
Which of the three would you pick?
All right, ladies?
Number one, relationship with Drake, but you pay for everything.
Two, access to Drake's property and money, but not him.
Three, having Drake's kids and getting child support.
Which one are you going with?
with we can start here and then work our way i don't know Right now, like...
Probably a relationship.
And I pay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
I wouldn't pick any of those.
Like, this is...
We'll pick one of the three.
If you have to pick one.
Maybe it's your favorite star, then.
Maybe two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't, like, you know, I don't relate to the question so much.
It's not like the options are...
If you have to pick one of the three, just pick one.
Well, then two, then yeah, then I will enjoy...
You would date him, but you want to pay for it?
Wait, sorry.
I would not date him, and I will enjoy the property and the money, because I just don't...
Okay.
Makes sense.
Alright.
What about you?
Two.
Okay, same thing.
Access to the money.
What about you?
Two.
Russian, not surprised.
Two.
Two?
Alright.
One.
Okay.
Why one over the other ones?
Because I don't have a problem paying for and supporting myself in this situation.
And why'd you pick one, too?
Because I like to pay for my stuff.
Independent boss, bro.
I think also that would open up doors being in a relationship with him.
I would agree with that.
Opportunities.
Yeah, it would open up opportunities versus, you know, yeah, you have access to his money and properties, but could have you gone further with access to him as a...
He's gonna have you stuck in the property and he's gonna be fucking another girl outside.
No, I was thinking of more so, like, I could use his money to start a business, do whatever I want, use the property, like Airbnb.
That's what I was thinking about.
I wouldn't be in a relationship with him because I don't want to be in a house.
I don't really care for a relationship with Drake.
I want to be outside.
Just give me the money, let me make my business, do what I want to do with it.
And honestly, too, if you have access to his properties and you have access to his money, you have access to him, so you still have the same opportunities except you're not in a relationship.
So you still have the same, like, I would believe you would still have the same, like, to meet the connection.
But you don't want a relationship?
You don't want someone to love you?
No.
I mean...
You don't like that?
I love that.
I would want someone to love me, but I personally...
I don't think it's love.
Drake is not Drake that I want.
But even if I wanted you to have to take care of everything, I don't want you that bad.
The option isn't even like, y'all split, y'all notice, you gotta take care of that.
That man don't love you, that's not a relationship.
Interesting.
Because he's not paying?
Because I have to pay for everything, that's not love.
So what is it?
It's giving.
I'm his sugar mama.
That's what it's giving.
So he paid for everything all the time.
I think they mean everything, yeah.
But what's the problem?
Like, you're paying for everything because you have your own career.
Okay, but you're his sugar mother.
And you're sharing together.
No, it says you're paying for everything.
And that's Drake, a multi-however much money he has.
But would it be different if...
He were taking care of everything.
But I wouldn't let him take care of everything either.
I've never been that type of girl.
I've been with, I always helped with something.
Even today, I took my man out.
I was like, babe, you know what?
You've been working hard for a week.
You want to go out for lunch?
I mean, let's pick a restaurant.
You want to tell him what you want?
You want steak?
Whatever, whatever.
And I offered him gas money just to even drive us to the restaurant.
And he took it?
I mean, I'm sending it back regardless.
I hate when people reject nice gestures from me.
Especially if you do a lot for me all the time.
Let me treat you.
That's one of my biggest things.
Does he make significantly more money than you do?
Yeah.
For sure.
interesting it's okay it's cool I'm just saying like women tend to be generous a lot of the times when the guy makes a lot more money than they do and there's like that Just interesting notice there.
Do you have something else that you want to add?
Or one of the other girls want to go?
I think they pretty much covered it.
Okay.
So, basically, if they're Drake's type...
Sorry, if Drake is not their type, they want to get property and access to money.
Fair enough.
Maybe Drake's type, but they'll pay for everything.
Okay.
Where are we at here?
Okay.
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Ladies, when you post on IG and you don't get enough likes, do you take it down?
And if so, why?
Be honest!
We'll just make this quick.
Raise your hands if you post on Instagram and if it doesn't get enough likes, you'll take it down.
Raise your hands if you've done that before.
If you've done it before.
Okay, what made you take it down?
It was a picture that I posted with one of my favorite photographers, and it didn't get as many likes as we thought it was gonna get.
So I was like, let me just take it down and try the algorithm again.
But I did it before, but then I just stopped doing it because I was like, I don't even care to take it down and repost it.
What about you?
What made you take it down?
I honestly don't remember, but I just feel like I've done something like that, but I clean my Instagram regularly.
Okay.
I just be like, why did I post that?
And I deleted it.
Okay.
The definition of felt cute might delete later, right?
What about you?
What made you?
Sometimes I just post weird pictures of me.
Facts.
So I need to take it.
What's an example of a weird picture of you?
Like, what's an example?
Right now?
Yeah, like a naked picture.
Okay, never mind.
On IG. TMI. Alright, fantastic.
Albo Ace, the next pod with you guys in the Tates is going to be lit.
Can't wait.
Yeah, coming soon, guys.
Don't worry.
Gobbling.
For the ladies, when it comes to cheating, is it harder on the guy or the girl keeping in mind the woman gets dominated and the man does the dominating?
Okay, we'll make this one a simple one.
We'll raise the hands.
Is it worse when a man gets cheated on?
Raise the hands if you think it's worse when a man gets cheated on.
Two?
Okay.
I think it's both.
Well, if you had to pick...
One of the great evils.
Which one do you think is worse?
So, I mean, and you can frame it under the pretense, would you prefer if you had to pick one of the two?
Your mom got cheated on by your dad, or your dad got cheated on by your mom?
Which one would hurt more?
Yeah.
So, let's ask that question one more time.
Is it worse when a man gets cheated on?
Raise your hands if you think it's worse when a man gets cheated on.
Two, three.
Okay, split down the middle.
And then, if a woman gets cheated on...
Raise it.
You three?
I can't decide.
I think it's both.
I mean, please pick one.
Even if it's 51%, 49%, like, which one do you think is worse?
Let's say women.
When the woman gets cheated on, you think it's worse?
I can't.
Well, it's 50-50, yeah.
It's hard to say.
It's like...
Alright, if I gave you the scenario, your mom got cheated on, your dad got cheated on, you had to pick one of the two.
Which one would be worse?
I think my mom.
Your mom getting cheated on would be worse, you think?
I think so.
You think that would hurt the family more than your mom cheating on your dad?
Listen, they're both like, it's not okay.
Which one do you think would hurt the family more, though?
Okay, I said women.
Okay, fine.
I said women.
Guys have a high libido, so they want to cheat and fuck.
So that's normal.
So I think a guy getting cheated on.
It's not normal.
I don't believe in cheating.
Wait, because you didn't raise your hand before.
So you agree that it's worse when a woman cheats with them.
Okay, and then what about you?
What are your thoughts?
I'll say that it's worse when a woman cheats just because it doesn't happen as often.
And for a woman to cheat, it has to be a very serious situation.
Okay, so you think it's worse when a woman cheats as well?
I guess.
Okay, so the only person that thinks it's a man...
Only her.
Okay, so you think it's worse when a woman cheats.
Okay.
No, I mean, I think it's worse when a man cheats on a woman, I think it's worse.
Okay, why do you think it's worse, in your opinion?
Well, again, I think they're both equal, but you kind of made me decide between the two.
I think that, you know, just generally as a female, we are more devoted when we're in our natural state, right?
When we're in harmony and when we are in love with someone.
So we don't really want to go outside and look for something else.
When we have what we have and we love it and we enjoy it and we just get everything we need, Like, if a guy, you know, takes care of everything and he, like, answers all the love languages that a woman needs, then why would she go out and just do that?
So when he goes and do that, it just makes her feel like she's not enough or that if she did something wrong.
It's a lot of, like, I would say it's a hit to, like, the self-esteem and self-confidence and her mental health in general.
Did it happen to you?
Well, in my definition, it did.
In his definition, it didn't.
Who hurt you?
Just tell us.
No, I'm past that.
I'm healed and I'm sending you love.
I do.
I love you very much.
I send you much love.
You gave a lot of arguments, actually, for why it would be worse if a woman cheated, because you stated how women get emotionally tied, they want to be with one person, etc.
So, wouldn't it be a bigger act of betrayal, since women are more predisposed to want to be with one partner for them to cheat?
Wait, say that again?
The points that you made, right?
Yes.
You said that it's worse than a man, she's because women want to have one partner, they're more devoted, they don't want to run around and have sex, they want to be monogamous.
So wouldn't it be worse for a woman to cheat since she's more predisposed to be monogamous with one partner?
Yeah, that's why it was hard for me to give you an answer in the beginning.
You know, I say it's 50-50.
I think they're both like...
But is it really 50-50 though?
I think so.
I think cheating is...
It doesn't matter the gender.
I think cheating is equally wrong.
Even a woman with a woman, a man with a man, it doesn't matter.
Cheating is going against yourself.
It's not even like...
It's beyond hurting the other person.
It's like you have issues within yourself that you need to fix, you know?
So why you can't be honest and just say, oh, listen, I just don't feel this is going...
You know, the way I want it to go or I found this girl and I'm attracted to her.
Do you mind if I go like?
But are either gender really honest with each other?
No.
No.
So, I mean, realistically speaking, is requesting honesty a realistic expectation?
Well, that's what I'm trying to attract to my life.
Honestly?
Yes.
But can you handle the truth?
I do because I'm honest and I'm truthful and I'm trustworthy.
So if guys walked up to you and said, listen, I want to have sex with multiple girls and you be loyal to me and you stay at home and you cook and you clean and you provide for me, provide the nurturing side, but I'm going to go out and have other women.
Would you be okay with that?
I would say you can do whatever you want.
You know, if that's what, please you go ahead.
And then I'll pack my stuff and my shoes and we'll say peace and we'll never talk to him ever again in my life because why am I there doing all that if it's just getting entertainment from other women?
Don't you think it's a bit insane though to expect honesty from someone but you're going to punish them for delivering that honesty to you?
It's not punishment.
It's expectation.
I mean, it's choice.
But it's called communication, so y'all could talk.
I feel like you could, before you pack your shit up and leave, at least tell them, like, how you feel and see, like...
Well, that's past that.
Like, people have different perspectives, so if you want to cheat, that's fine.
People, if you want to cheat, that's okay, but that doesn't necessarily mean we have to be together.
Like, you get what I'm saying?
So I don't think...
So somebody else would be okay with that.
So I feel like you should be honest about it, but that doesn't mean I have to be, like, I respect your honesty, but why do I have to stay?
But imagine this, right?
A guy finally got your ass and was like, alright, I got her!
And now I'm gonna tell the truth and then lose you?
Oh, come on.
No, but that's something we would have been already, like, we would have found that out before you got me.
No, you wouldn't.
Yeah, we would talk about it.
Because no one's honest about it.
I feel like, and that's the problem, because at the end of the day, we should start being truthful about everything about our viewpoints.
We agree, but like you said earlier, once I know, I'm out the door.
So he's going to say, you know what?
Yeah, I'm never going to cheat on you, and then...
But there's so many women who are okay with, like, open relationships.
Yeah, some, but I guarantee you, everyone in this room, maybe two of you might be cool with it.
Maybe two.
Who's the two you think?
She's open to her.
It's probably her.
Right?
So there you go.
But once again, guys don't know this, so they're like, you know what?
Let me be safe about it and not say anything at all.
That's saying, too, that the cheating was a preconceived notion.
They planned it, right?
It was a thought.
Like, oh, I'm going to pursue this person.
Isn't most cheating...
I rap in a hookup.
Premeditated cheating.
Exactly.
I don't see a lot.
I've seen a lot of cheating.
I'm sure you have.
A lot of it, I don't think it has to do with planning.
It's a spur of the moment.
You said it's taking away a...
I feel like it's taking a person's choice away.
I've been cheated on before and I felt...
We can tell.
Well, I felt violated, honestly, because I didn't consent to keep on having sex with you after you had sex with another woman.
So, to me, it was just very disrespectful and I'm so sorry.
And I just felt like it was rude.
Okay.
And I lost all respect for that person.
So, I don't know.
If he told you beforehand, like, hey, you know what?
I might Every now and then step out here and there.
Would you be cool with it still?
No, I want to be cool with it.
But like you said, there's people who would be cool with it and I feel like the people who want to step out, they should be with those people.
But what kind of bond can we build if it's built online?
If you're doing whatever you want and like lying to my face and eventually I'm going to find out and I'm going to feel betrayed and it's going to be a lot of drama.
Let me ask you, go ahead.
Do you have something?
I'm going to tell him, I tell him like, hey, this is what I want.
Do you like it or no?
And if you don't like it, then I like someone else.
Because that's what I like.
And I don't want to be, like, cheating.
Fucking another guy that probably I like or I make music with or whatever.
And I'm gonna be cheating, you know?
No.
What I mean is, like...
Like, you're funny.
We can have fun together.
She's, like, this cute little button.
But I'm the main girlfriend.
She's like this little, like, spark plug.
Like, she's so cute.
Sorry, you were trying to say something, too?
Sorry, you were trying to say something.
Oh, no, I was just saying how she's so cute.
Like, she's just so adult.
Well, can I add something?
Can I add something?
Yeah, sure.
There is also the health aspect into it.
So, I don't know.
I'm just a little concerned about that.
But you're not gonna be with a strange girl.
Like, you have to know her.
Like, Do you smell like her pussy?
And if he smells, bye.
You take probiotics.
I wasn't talking about that.
I want to be a fly in her house.
So let me ask the ladies a question.
Would you work a 40-hour work week knowing that you weren't going to be paid?
Yes or no?
Would you work a 40-hour work week knowing that you weren't going to be paid?
Yes or no?
A 40 hour?
Like a job.
The whole week is like 40 hours?
Would you work a whole week and not get paid?
No.
Well, it depends.
Because if it's a voluntary work and I do something for the community and I help and I make an impact, then absolutely yes.
Yeah, but it's under the pretense that you would be paid, but you don't get paid.
Volunteering is not getting paid.
It's a job.
It's a job.
It's not a volunteer situation.
Okay, well, if the job is helping me progress, if I gain another skill, if I learn something new, then yes, I would do it.
For one week, I would do it.
Not for one going.
You're helping a company grow.
So you would work for free for 40 hours.
Okay, fantastic.
What about the rest of you?
I will hire you tomorrow.
Awesome.
I don't have time for 40 hours.
No, you're not going to gain any skills or anything.
You're just working.
It's like just a normal job.
Yeah, it's a normal job.
No?
What about you?
The straight answer is no.
But when she put it like that, I do have to do field work.
And that is working for free.
Yeah, but it's working towards something.
Okay.
This isn't working.
What about you?
It's just free labor.
No.
No?
No.
Nope.
Okay.
So...
This is my thing.
I always find it interesting that women want honesty and transparency, etc.
How can you expect someone to be honest with you when they're not going to be rewarded for doing so?
Because the thing is that when women say, I want honesty, what that really translates to is, I want transparency so I can make the best decision for myself.
That's what it really boils down to.
Think of it as working a 40-hour work week, putting yourself out there, and you might not necessarily be paid for it.
And that's the same exact situation where a guy is being honest with you and telling you, I want to have multiple women.
Most of them don't have the capacity to handle that, and he's not going to be rewarded 95% of the time by being honest and transparent about that.
So you can't expect someone to be honest with you and transparent when they're going to be punished for doing so.
It doesn't make sense.
Just like you don't expect someone to work 40 hours per week and not be paid.
But you don't think, like, respect and integrity is reward in itself?
It's not.
Women punish that.
And a peace of mind.
And a peace of mind.
But you gotta ask yourself, who benefits from it?
The female does, not the male.
I mean, not really.
If I like a person and they tell me, oh, I'm trying to be with other girls, that hurts me too.
But you said a magic phrase right before.
You said, what was it?
If I like him.
Oh, what does it take for you to like him?
I mean, that's a very complicated question.
I don't know what makes me like a man.
You see where I'm going here?
You can't even describe what the man has to do for you to like him.
And then you expect that man to get your like him.
This is what I'm trying to say.
You expect him, right?
You get to like him.
You don't even know what you like.
He somehow fulfills this.
Oh, now you know what you like all of a sudden.
He fulfills what you need to be liked.
Then he fulfills all these requirements, etc.
Then you expect him to be honest and transparent with you about what he likes and potentially lose you after he had to work his ass off to get you to like him in the first place.
I know what I like.
Okay, I mean, I have to...
- Bruh, come on, man.
- No, seriously.
- Come on, man, checkmate, man.
- This is what I'm trying to say, 'cause like the thing is with females is that you guys just look at the finish line.
You look at the guy, okay, he's attractive.
He's accomplished what I want.
I'm attracted to him, but you guys don't see all the work it took for the man to get to that point where you even like him in the first place.
Then you expect them to take all that hard work, throw it out the window and tell you, oh yeah, by the way, I'm busting my ass not just to fuck you, but to fuck five other girls.
You honestly think he's going, and critical thinking skills here.
Fuck what you want.
If you're in a man's position, you work your ass off to build that value, etc.
Do you really think it's in your best interest, to be honest with women?
Think about this before y'all speak.
Do you really think it's in his best interest?
I do understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is while you're putting in the work, that's where it should be established if we have the same viewpoint.
Like, not while we're in it and then you decide to cheat on me.
I feel like while you're putting in the work, don't even waste your time.
In the beginning, tell me that's what you want.
You want to have multiple work?
Like, why waste our time?
I get what you're saying, but let's go in a magical world here, right?
Let's imagine this.
I love magical world.
So, let's say you meet a guy, right?
You really like him.
He's your ideal guy, 6'6", 220, muscular, a lot of money, right?
You tell him, you know what, babes?
You're amazing.
I want to be with you my whole life.
But honestly, I love your money and your height and what you give to me all the time.
You're telling the truth about him, what you like the most, right?
He's like, damn, okay, what's my money and my height?
That's crazy.
So imagine a guy telling you that, for example, oh, well, to be honest, I like you a lot, but I don't follow the chicks.
It's kind of similar because you're telling the truth at the very beginning.
But for a guy, it's like you're telling him money and height.
So he can accept it.
Or take it or leave it.
He can take it or he can leave it.
Isn't it messed up though?
Isn't it messed up?
It's not messed up.
That's just my viewpoint.
That's what I like.
That's what I like.
But do you tell every guy that?
When you meet him?
I mean, it's not.
But it's never just that.
It's never just money.
When I like a man.
Okay.
So I like a man of God.
So if I see Trace that you're a man of God.
I'm a man of God.
There's a lot of things to it.
So that's why I said it's a very intricate question when you say, what do I like?
Because I like a lot of things.
But the point is...
So it's complex.
It is complex.
So you expect that man to rise up to your complex needs and wants, but then be honest with you and potentially lose you.
But that's the thing.
That's why it's in the process.
I feel like it should just be transparent.
Because I believe in transparency.
So from the back, just tell me what it is.
Yeah, it's easy for you to say, I don't expect transparency when you didn't have to work to build that attraction.
What do you mean not work?
You think women wake up every day and just look how we look?
Makeup, lashes, nails, hair.
Working out, making readings.
That's a lot of work, right?
First of all, it is a lot of work.
Thank you very much.
I don't know if that was sarcasm, but it is a lot of work.
It is a considerable amount of work for a woman to keep herself attractive and in shape, etc.
But you got to understand that the amount of work that a woman takes to be attractive is not nearly the same amount of work required for a man to be attractive.
It doesn't even come close.
I mean...
Okay.
Do you disagree with that?
No, I don't disagree with it, but I do feel like men are genetically wired to want to go after things.
So I think it's easier for men to work harder.
Not easier, but I think men are genetically more inclined for work.
Like, they like work.
Not like, but you know.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Men have a natural proclivity to work harder than women.
Is that what you're trying to say?
No, I'm saying that men are more naturally...
Yes, you're saying that.
That's basically what I'm saying.
That's basically what I'm saying.
But I'm not saying that women don't work hard.
I'm just saying it's more natural for women to be nurtured.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay, you're trying to say something?
Well, it's a turn-on for me when a guy is honest with me.
If he lies to me, It's a turn off for me.
But another thing...
But you have to like him first to be honest with you, right?
If you're a woman...
Hold on, hold on.
But you have to like him first to be honest with you?
Yeah, I like him when he's his real self with me.
You know, when I can feel that he's being real.
But you have to be attracted to him for you to care about him being honest, right?
I think the attraction comes when I get to know that person.
Really.
You know?
Yeah, but you have to like him first is my point.
Yeah.
Because if you liked any guy that's being honest with you, you would like the homeless guy that says, give me a dollar, I need to go get a beer.
Like, his outside means nothing.
When you get to know, like, his inside, like, his heart, that's a turnip.
So you don't care how he looks?
No, really.
So you for anything?
Stop the cap!
No, but, no sé, like...
Pero...
No one really is ugly, you know?
It's how the people is inside.
Make you feel?
No, no, no.
It's how the person is inside that makes them ugly, you know what I mean?
You mean like how they treat other people and things like that.
If they treat like a server bad, that's a turn off.
So if the homeless man was nice to the server, you'd still date the homeless man?
I don't want to date a homeless.
Why not?
He's a bad person.
Because he's a bad person.
He treats bad his family.
That's why he's homeless.
No, if he's homeless because he was a veteran and boom, he's disabled, all this and that.
That's why he's homeless.
But he's nice to everybody else.
He's the sweetest man alive.
So you're telling me I could be ugly as hell.
I bet you're good.
You're gonna smash.
What?
So you smashed homeless man?
No.
No, no, no.
Not like that.
No.
You were trying to say, were you saying something?
Yeah, so when you were saying that men need to work more than women to get a woman to like them, I think that's like forcing.
Just so it's clear, men have to work significantly harder to have mating options than women do.
So I think that's like forcing a connection.
What's for you is for you.
If a girl is for you, you're not going to have to work very hard to get with her.
Just stop forcing.
Also, if you're going to cheat on the girl, then you don't really like her.
When you find somebody who inspires you, who is the perfect person for you, you're not going to want to cheat on them.
So I feel like in the first place, that connection was forced.
Whether because you thought that woman was beautiful or because she just didn't really like you.
You couldn't get her.
So you worked very hard.
So now it's a forced connection.
So now you're going to cheat on her.
You're going to cheat her like shit.
Just stop forcing things.
So you're saying guys should just be themselves?
Yeah.
What makes an ugly person for you?
Like an ugly person for me?
So you think a guy should just be himself?
100%.
What makes you say that?
Because sooner or later I'm gonna get to know you as a person and if you're putting up a front and we don't end up connecting because you put up a front, what was the point of all of that?
Okay, let me ask you a question.
It's a Saturday night, okay?
Let's go into a dream scenario.
So, Saturday night in Miami, Drake, Lil Wayne, and a bunch of other top-tier artists are going to be appearing at Club Live in Miami Beach, right?
You want to get in.
But, what I'm telling you is, you cannot wear makeup, heels, a nice dress, you have to go there in sweatpants, no makeup, Gym gear, do you think you would have a chance of getting inside?
I actually look really good without makeup on and sweatpants.
I'm not being funny.
I mean, if you don't feel confident without makeup on.
No, that's not that I'm not confident, but realistically, you would not get into a club in Miami is the question.
Listen, you get outside, don't care.
You don't get inside and sweatpants.
It's Miami, Florida.
It's a Saturday night.
All the top artists are there.
Do you seriously think that you're going to get inside when we have some of the most attractive women coming here that live here and visiting here from different parts of the world?
Do you honestly think you're going to get in not dress appropriately without makeup on, extensions, and sneakers?
Do you seriously think you're going to get in?
So exactly why was I not allowed to wear makeup?
Please just answer the question.
Would you be allowed into the club?
Yes or no?
Sure, I wouldn't be allowed in the club.
Why would you not be allowed in the club?
Because you're not presenting yourself in the best light, correct?
Because Miami's superficial.
Fantastic.
That's not the point of the exercise here.
But the point I'm trying to demonstrate is you're not going to be let into a top-tier club with celebrities there when you're not looking your best and putting out a certain facade.
Men have to do the same thing.
It's just that it's socially acceptable for women to put up a facade from a look standpoint, enhance their looks, enhance their dressing, etc., to get in and put themselves in certain situations.
But if a man does it, oh, what are you doing, etc.?
What I've come to realize is women want to be able to have a monopoly on deception and being able to have the mystique.
But if a man does the same thing, it's a problem.
Because realistically speaking, if we're going to be honest here, women's entire presence and way that they deal with the opposite gender is based on deception.
Makeup, heels, extensions, nails, etc.
Very little about a woman is natural beauty in today's day and age.
Especially when you're competing at the highest levels for the highest value men in venues that are hyper-competitive.
I gave the club environment to show you an example where a woman has to compete.
But in general, men have to do this all the time outside of a club.
So do you realistically think a man can just be himself and get an attractive girl?
No.
They have to put a facade on to a degree.
And on top of that, they have to have some work beside the facade to stay attractive.
Okay, I agree with that.
You see my perspective?
So it's like everything is a facade to a degree.
It's just that when a man does it, women have a point of contention with it, which I find interesting.
Because everything about female nature is deceptive in practice.
We don't know when you guys have periods.
We don't know when you guys are in heat.
We don't know what you really look like beneath your makeup.
We don't really know what you look like without your waist trainer, etc.
Women have way more things that they use to augment the way that they look than men do.
You're telling me a guy, oh, just be yourself.
I mean, realistically speaking, it doesn't work because most guys don't have the same interests that are aligned with females.
Most guys want to play video games.
They might like sports.
They like doing things that are physical in nature.
Women typically aren't interested in these things in general.
Or some, for sure.
But in general, most aren't.
So, some of the worst advice we can give to a guy is be yourself.
When in reality, women aren't even themselves.
But that's a first impression type of thing.
Not when you're dating a person and y'all are like, that's a first impression type of thing.
Because if we're dating, you saw me without makeup.
You know my personality.
I should know your personality.
Like, if we're dating and we're already there, we should know each other.
It shouldn't be a...
But the original sale is what he's saying.
And I'm saying first impression.
But if we're talking about cheating, to be cheating, we have to be dating.
In order to be dating, I have to know who you are.
Right.
But you can agree people put on a facade for years.
I mean, to get a man and to get a woman, it is a facade.
Like, a woman can't just show you her emotions.
Yeah, but you're not going to care about my personality unless I present myself in a certain place in the first place.
So that's what I'm trying to say.
Well, women say stuff like personality, vibes, etc.
That's all a bunch of bullshit for be attractive to me in the first place where I even want to give you a chance.
Then I'll go ahead and get to know your personality.
But women dress up, be yourself and all this other stuff.
Realistically speaking, that's not honest advice.
I think it is.
First impression, I get what you're saying.
Because everyone has to put a mask.
No one's going to just show who they are.
First impression.
But I'm saying as far as when y'all are getting to know each other.
Are you serious?
Yeah, you're trying to be serious.
That person has to know who you are.
You can't keep a facade forever.
Because I'm pretty sure you're not about to date somebody and they don't know you and you don't feel comfortable with them.
Happens all the time.
Oh, that's interesting.
Happens to you too?
It hasn't happened to me.
Yeah, I haven't?
No.
Where's your boyfriend?
I don't have one.
You never have one?
I've never had one.
That's a red flag.
That's a red flag.
I'm a red flag.
I think the whole concept of women saying, just to bring it back full circle, oh, I want honesty, I want transparency.
It's not really that you want honesty or transparency.
You want it for your own self-interest of being able to make the best decision for yourself.
So if a guy says, hey, I want to go around and sleep with other women, you can go ahead and make the game time decision.
Okay.
Am I willing to accept cheating from this guy?
If the answer is no, you leave.
Find somebody else that's more willing to be monogamous to you.
If he is, then you'll be like, oh, you know what?
Maybe I'll stick around.
But the reality is women don't want transparent honesty because they like it.
They want it so that they can make the best decision for themselves, which is cool.
We're all human beings and self-interested and self-motivated for our own preservation.
But the fact that women say, oh, be honest and be transparent with me, for me, is a lie.
It's 100% for self-interest.
Go ahead.
But realistically, how can you build a meaningful bond with somebody if you're not vulnerable with them?
Like, eventually, at some point.
I think men should not be vulnerable with women.
Ever?
I think that's the difference between the two genders, is being vulnerable with a woman as a man will set you up for failure.
What?
I think it will get you guys closer together.
I think that's why it's inside rates for better high.
I mean...
Well, okay.
Let's see here.
A vulnerable man is attractive.
Yeah, you know what?
Yeah, we could go ahead and kill Twitch, Twitter, Facebook.
And I'll let the lady say their point.
Somebody was saying something about a vulnerable man is attractive.
Yes.
Okay, sure.
Why do you say that?
Because if you're able to open up and talk about your feelings, emotions, thoughts, inspiration, aspirations to me and share them with me, then, you know, I see that there is like more value in it and I would like to, you know, to invest in it too.
Question, when is the right time to do that though?
For a man.
For a man, well, you guys, you have instincts.
You can use them too.
You can tell when a woman is ready to hold space for you and be able to be there.
Give us a sign.
Just tell us when we should maybe do it.
I guess when you have a meaningful conversation with each other, maybe it's a time to open up a little bit.
Is it when you decide to be just exclusive?
Is that when?
No, not necessarily.
Do you still say, okay, I'm going to be exclusive with just you?
And then, like, open up.
I don't think it has to be like that.
Like, listen, you gotta feel the vibe.
You can't, like...
See, here's the problem, right?
Us as guys, we don't know when it's the right time.
It could be the wrong time the whole time.
I'm just saying, as a guy, why would I put myself in that situation when I don't know the outcome of it?
It's like, okay.
Because you guys do that all the time.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
You guys put yourself in situations that you don't know what the outcome of it.
This is a masculine trait.
When it comes to dating, right, with you, let's say I want to be with you long term, and then I open up to you, you say, oh, that's kind of cringe.
It's kind of weird.
But I don't know when it's the right time.
Why even risk it?
Well, you'll never know if you never risk it.
And guess what happens to it?
If I never do it, I'm still good.
Yes, you're still good, but then you'll never have the opportunity of experiencing true love and deep bond and something that is meaningful.
You have to take the chance of getting hurt and open up.
Getting hurt?
So getting hurt and true lover are synonymous?
No, but that's what he presented to as like, oh, if I'm not going to open up, then I'll protect myself.
Then I'm not going to...
It's just...
You know, I'm not going to be giving up too much of myself and I'm not going to be sharing.
So it means that, like, I can walk away and, you know.
So you're saying basically, in a nutshell, being vulnerable opens you up to, you know, emotions and a deeper connection with an individual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Getting to know them better.
Would it be fair to say that that's how women build an emotional connection versus men?
It might be a little bit different.
We might not necessarily need the same level of emotional connection through vulnerability that women do.
Absolutely.
We're built different.
Stop right there.
We're built different.
You said that from the female perspective.
Yeah.
I told you from the male perspective, it doesn't operate that way.
Because you're speaking from a limited perspective as a woman, not from a man.
You're saying what you would like to be able to do, etc.
And you're hoping that it's a mirror image on the male side.
Scientifically, we're different.
Okay.
So, it doesn't matter the perspective.
It's just proven.
No, it absolutely matters the perspective because you're giving a female perspective on how vulnerability enhances emotions and a deeper connection.
But what I'm saying, for a man, it might not necessarily be that way.
For a woman, it is.
But not for a man.
So you're telling me a man doesn't want to be heard?
A man doesn't want to feel like someone cares about him?
A man doesn't want to put his head on someone's shoulder when he's going through hard times?
What you're saying is being able to put a hat on a shoulder and be vulnerable, etc.
Though a woman is capable of providing that comfort, I think a safer way to go about getting that comfort and being vulnerable is through another man who experiences the same issues and problems and dilemmas that you do from the male experience.
Because you just admitted by yourself That men and women are different and we experience different problems based on our gender.
So wouldn't it be kind of foolish for me to go ahead and provide my masculine problems to an individual who's not qualified to handle my masculine problems?
And as a matter of fact, that individual is relying on me to be a leader, to be dominant, to take her through life.
And then I'm going ahead and showing vulnerability and I'm not really sure where we stand right now.
I would argue it's better for the guy to go to a man that understands his perspective versus a woman who doesn't understand that perspective.
What you just described of being vulnerable and being able to connect on a deep and emotional level, that's a female way of falling in love.
Men typically don't fall in love like that.
Men love women for acts of service.
Men love women that are submissive, that fall in line, that don't give them a headache, that give them peace.
I think women want to be able to open up to their man and get that stability.
But for men to open up to a woman, she's not necessarily capable of the same stability because men and women aren't the same and women aren't leaders.
So I would say it's probably going to lead to self-destruction opening up to your woman because women aren't built to lead men and be stoic and emotional rocks in times of turmoil.
Facts.
But you opening up to a woman doesn't mean that you give up your leadership.
Yeah, but what you're doing is you're forfeiting it for a period of time.
And every woman has different levels of acceptance of you terminating that leadership.
So, for example, some women might be able to tolerate you being a pussy and saying, I don't know where we stand right now.
Oh, my God.
But other women might be cutthroat and be like, what the fuck?
You're soft.
No, I'm good.
And they'll get turned off by that.
So why take the risk?
Because you should know who you're with.
It shouldn't be a risk if you know who you're with.
So it's a risk.
Okay, but the thing is, is that you won't know unless you open up.
For example, right?
They've done studies on this and they've seen, like, women react to this.
Women that are typically in relationships with guys that are fighters, right?
They like the guy, they're attracted to him because he's a fighter, etc.
But if they go to one of his fights and they watch him get beat up, a lot of women have lost attraction to their man by watching him get beat up.
It's a visceral, carnal thing.
What he's effectively establishing right in front of you, even though he's fighting another professional fighter, is he might not be capable of protecting you, and that triggers certain things in your mind, in your monkey brain.
Whoa!
This guy's not a protector.
Can you still provide for me?
Blah, blah, blah.
Women lose attraction for men.
So what I'm saying is that just in a way that women can lose attraction within an instant of watching their man get beat up, they can also lose attraction within an instant of him crying and trying to get consolation from her.
You won't know until it happens, is my argument.
Does that make sense?
No, it makes sense.
You have some?
I don't think we should look at that as a weakness when a man opens up.
As a man, you should only open up to somebody you feel comfortable with.
So if you don't know where you stand with your woman, obviously you should not be opening up to her.
Let's rewind real quick.
What did you say a second ago?
You said women should, right?
Not look at it that way?
We should.
I said women and men.
I feel like men see opening up and being vulnerable as a weakness.
But I see it as a sign of strength because I know that for men it's hard to open up.
But you used a key word earlier.
You said should.
Should what?
And you said we shouldn't look at it like that.
And I agree.
I wish it wasn't like that.
But, you know, I tend to operate in reality and should isn't necessarily a word in reality.
Women typically tend to look down on men that look to them for some type, that are vulnerable with them on a consistent basis.
I don't know women who look down on that.
I feel like in my circles, women see that as a sign of strength because that means you're emotionally intelligent.
I'm curious.
This is the problem that I've come to realize with women talking about this.
Y'all want vulnerability on your terms.
And what I'm trying to argue is that vulnerability doesn't come on terms.
It's not like it's an agreement.
Okay, you can be vulnerable Monday, Tuesdays, and Thursdays, okay?
For five minutes at a time, et cetera.
You guys are saying it if it comes in certain terms.
The problem with vulnerability and emotional volatility and hard times, et cetera, is it comes in spurts and it could be nice and sunny one second and then raining, pouring another second.
And there's no necessary terms.
When it comes, it's raw.
You don't know how you're going to react to it.
It might lead to, you know, a visceral, carnal emotion that you might not...
Oh my God, I'm watching my guy give you the...
What the hell's going on here?
And then you lose traction for him, right?
So it's very different.
So you guys are saying, oh, it shouldn't be that way.
And this doesn't make sense.
You should be able to open up to your girl and be vulnerable.
The problem is that when it does come, it's not going to come the way that you expect it.
Like, baby, I had...
Tough time at work.
But you know what?
I fixed the problem.
No!
He might come home sobbing like a little bitch.
He might be like coming back with a black eye.
You don't know what the hell happened.
It's going to come and rear its ugly head when you're least expecting it.
And it could come in a dark time.
Maybe I didn't make the bills for a month or two.
And you guys are in a bad spot.
Then he comes home crying, etc.
It's never going to come in an optimal situation that women typically think.
It's going to come in a terrible time where it isn't optimal for either one of you.
Do you really want to sit there and have to console a man that's responsible for protecting and providing and leading you?
That sounds like a bitch?
No.
See, you could say, yes, I'd be able to do it.
It doesn't sound like a bitch to me.
Okay, fantastic.
I never...
You might think that, but a majority of women will have a point of contention with that.
That's my argument.
Yeah, I'm actually curious.
Has a guy ever been vulnerable with you?
Yes, I've had men crying in front of me before.
Where are they now?
Living their best life.
But you're not there.
But that didn't make me respect them less.
Not the cow.
So it made you respect them more?
Yes.
Not the cow.
I promise.
Then why aren't you with them?
For other reasons.
Not having anything to do with that.
Who broke up with who?
I mean, I always ended all of my relationships.
But I'll tell you right now that I got cheated on.
So it wasn't me who lost respect for this person and went and found a new man who is more masculine and doesn't cry.
One time, I was having this experience with this guy.
He works in a studio and he was like, I'm celibate.
I don't have sex.
I just want to have sex with you.
And I'm like, I don't like that.
I think that's weird.
Wait, wait, but that's not all.
He was like, oh no, I just got into a fight in the studio and I was fighting, you know.
And for me, that was a turnoff that the guy was fighting.
I didn't like him after that, because I think that if he holds himself and he's like, you don't fight, I think fighting is bad, you know?
That's why I like the video that Myron posted.
Like, he didn't even touch the girl, and that was good.
Oh, on Instagram.
Yeah.
Going back to you, would it be fair to say that him being vulnerable might have been a symptom of a greater issue?
For you, because you said you broke up with him, and that wasn't necessarily the main reason, but you said that wasn't the main reason you broke up with him, it was because of other things, but wouldn't it be fair to say that that might have been a symptom of a greater issue as to why you broke up with him in general?
Because typically when men are vulnerable, right, and soft with women, they have a bunch of other issues with their masculinity that also tie into their vulnerability.
So, I've had about three boyfriends and they all cried in front of me.
So, it's not a specific situation that I'm talking about.
We broke up for different reasons.
What was the reason?
They all cried in front of you?
We were close.
Like, when you're close with somebody, it's okay.
It's okay.
When people go through things, it's okay to cry.
What did I cry about?
Does it matter right now?
It does matter.
Like childhood trauma, family situations, like dark family situations.
Okay.
What made you break up with them?
Like I said, it was multiple situations.
We broke up for different reasons.
Like I said, I got cheated on.
Okay, one cheated on.
And then what was the other two that were the deal breaker?
Okay, we had like a violent situation.
He hit you?
No, I hit him.
Well, we hit each other.
Because it was a bitch.
His dog hit me, hit him, so that's why he hit me.
What the fuck?
His what?
It's just an example.
His dog hit him.
His dog?
Yeah, he has a trauma.
Like, he's gonna hit you.
Because he got hit or something?
Shut up, bitch!
No, no, she hit him.
Exactly.
Did he hit you back, too?
Or no?
No, no, no.
Okay, you hit him.
Okay.
What is the third reason?
So one guy's on you.
One guy, you're beating him up.
And then the third guy...
The third guy...
Well, she's Russian, so I mean...
I honestly don't remember.
It was something petty, also.
I don't remember.
I just find it funny that they all cried in front of you, and then eventually you broke up with them for another reason or whatever.
It doesn't really matter.
But you all broke up with all three of them.
And you hit them.
And you hit them, too.
Listen, things happen.
I was, like, I was 19.
Can I answer your question?
It doesn't show a pattern of like bad, like, wow.
Bro.
Did your dad ever cry in front of you?
I actually don't have a relationship with my father.
I mean, I've seen my dad cry, but, like, my grandma passed away.
Emotional damage!
Like, a death is different.
Like, my man, he's cried, like, his best friend passed away, like, the day of his, like, game.
Like, so that was different.
Like, I feel like a death, like, is understandable.
But, like, my man also told me if he's ever going through shit, he would never let me know because it's his job as a man to just get through the shit.
So it's like...
But don't you want to be that person for your man?
No, I am that person for him.
If he wants to come and talk to me, he can.
That person who hits him?
I don't hit him.
I would never hit him.
I think this is another perfect example of wanting to be transparent when it comes to cheating and having other women.
Women want you to be transparent with your emotions, once again, for self-interest, to be able to establish if you're really that guy, if you're a tough guy, you can lead me, etc.
And if you are sitting there crying in the back of her mind, she's like, I got you right now, but man, if we ever get in a fight or if I ever want to break up with you, man, you are a bitch.
I could leave you.
You definitely felt like he was a bitch for you to hit him, because if you didn't feel like that about him, you would never lay the hand on him.
I promise you.
Every guy I've ever been with, there's only one guy I was ever with, and I did put my hands on him.
No, I was 17, but guess what?
I did think he was a bitch.
Well, I actually know her personally, and she's actually like, I don't think you have to be a bitch.
If she, her ankles get it.
No cap.
No cap.
If her anger does get hurt, like, if her muscles get the better of her, she will put her hands on you.
That's a problem.
Yeah, that's a problem with me.
It's not a problem with the person.
But if it was a guy that you knew for a fact would deck the shit out of you, you would not put your hands on me.
You wouldn't do it.
You would not do it.
If he was 6'6", 250, you're gonna...
I'm 27.
I don't do things like that anymore.
But I'm saying, if he was 6'6", 250, you would never do it in the first place.
Maybe you're right.
But I take responsibility for that.
I don't want to call this person a bitch and that's why I hate him.
But I think the problem was with me.
Because I didn't know how to express my feelings.
I think that's even more reason to not open up to you and be vulnerable.
They might get punched.
We can conclude.
You know what I mean?
And here's the thing, too.
You made an argument earlier, I wrote this down, that women can be both masculine and feminine.
When women are, you know, selectively choosing when they want to be feminine and masculine, etc., that means as a man you have to be hyper-masculine.
And being vulnerable is probably one of the softest and pussiest things you can do.
It's a feminine characteristic to open up to females, in my eyes.
So I don't think...
Especially with a female like you that kind of picks and chooses when they want to be a lady or masculine.
I would say it's even more dangerous for them to be vulnerable with a female like you.
I disagree.
Why do you disagree?
Would your prior relationships not kind of prove my point?
Because actions speak louder than words?
That you punish every guy that's been vulnerable with you?
So I've learned a lot from my previous relationships.
I'm not proud of the mistakes that I made in those relationships.
So I... Wouldn't judge what happened in those relationships and make conclusions about what I think of things right now.
I mean, you're saying it's okay for men to be vulnerable with you, but the record shows that every man that's been vulnerable with you has suffered a consequence of losing you.
Or a black eye.
Not because they were vulnerable with me.
But that's what I said before.
I think that was a symptom of a greater issue.
Probably.
Probably.
Alright.
Just to point out stuff, did anybody else have anything that they wanted to say in this discussion?
Kind of went into a whole other thing there.
Tangent, yeah.
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Chris, do we have more?
Yeah, from before.
Okay.
Let me ask this question first, and then we'll go to the chats.
All right.
Speaking on the topic that we talked about, would you ladies agree that modern day men are soft and not leaders or masculine as they used to be?
We can start here and then work our way.
As a majority, I would say yes.
As a majority?
As a majority, yes.
So you would agree?
Yes.
You've been here longer than most people.
Thanks.
Have you seen men change over a period of time from what it used to be to now?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Give us an example if you don't mind.
Okay, so just even our male role models that are out there right now, right?
Like, it used to be sports figures, and it used to be like...
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Exactly.
Sylvester Stallone.
And now it's...
Now it's...
Well, it used to be, yes.
But now it's...
New Age Spider-Man.
What else?
Weaker, just in general, as a physical being, smaller men, just as overall presence.
They have more feminine characteristics.
They move.
They speak softer.
There's just not that masculinity that there used to be in the, I would even say, the 90s or 2000s.
So you've seen a general feminization of men?
Of men, yes.
In modern culture and in real life?
100%.
And I've also seen the opposite true in masculinity and feminism.
Okay, so that feminization that's occurred in men, you've seen it on the opposite spectrum?
On the opposite side.
Of women being more masculinized?
100%, yes.
Interesting.
I mean, shit, look at Dwyane Wade.
Yeah, good example.
What about you?
Do you think that men are soft and no longer masculine and or leaders?
I think, like she said, for the majority, yes, for sure.
I definitely agree with the whole, like, a lot of women are a lot more masculine now, but yet, yeah.
Okay.
Would you say a contributing factor to women being more masculine is the feminization of men?
Yeah.
Okay.
Weaker men create stronger women?
Okay.
Yeah, somebody has to step up.
Okay.
What about you?
What do you think?
I don't think men are less masculine.
I think men are less gentlemen.
And I think for me, it's a big part of being masculine.
But a lot of people don't see that as being masculine.
You kind of just contradicted yourself.
So hold on.
I'm sorry, one more thing.
So on one hand, you said that men are not less masculine, but they're less gentlemen.
Then you went and followed that up by saying they're not chivalrous.
But you're saying chivalry is a part of masculinity.
So which one is it?
So to clarify, I think the masculine traits that you're talking about are toxic masculinity.
Can you describe it specifically so I understand?
Yeah, what does that mean?
Like aggression.
That's a toxic masculine trait.
I feel like there's not enough of the gentleman masculine traits.
I feel like men don't do those things anymore.
But they definitely still do the toxic masculine traits, like try to get a lot of women and, you know, just being aggressive.
So you thought he meant he was talking about aggression?
Well, I'm asking, do you think men are less masculine now than before?
So you're saying that they are less masculine than before?
I'm trying to...
Let's go with they are less masculine.
And you're saying it's because they're more aggressive and what was the other term?
They're just not gentlemen anymore.
No more chivalry.
I don't think we're talking about that part.
You know what's crazy?
Back in the day, were women more masculine or feminine back in the day?
Feminine.
So nowadays, what are women?
Mainly.
Masculine, right?
So do they deserve chivalry at this point?
Of course.
Really?
I feel like when a man provides a safe space for a woman to be feminine, a woman is more feminine.
So by default, you're masculine.
So that means you should not front me.
Showverse, if you're masculine.
You should always come off as feminine at first.
I feel like not straight masculine energy when you first meet somebody.
Because if I meet you as a guy and you're masculine as fuck, I'm not going to treat you like you deserve feminine energy, like you deserve chivalry.
I'm going to treat you like the masculine guy that you want to be.
You answered it to yourself earlier.
I feel like the definitions of masculine and feminine have changed.
Really?
I feel like certain things that were considered strictly masculine are also feminine right now.
Like?
Like women being independent and strong and taking care of themselves and having a voice, doing sports, things like that.
You think being strong and independent is masculine?
You think that?
How do you know he thinks that?
You didn't say that.
I'm asking you.
So you think it's more masculine?
I don't think so.
Being strong and independent?
I don't think so.
Just as I don't think that being vulnerable is strictly feminine.
I don't think that's a feminine quality.
I feel like we decide for themselves what we think is feminine and masculine.
So you write your own meanings for words now?
Sure.
I just don't think it's black and white.
Masculinity and femininity are not black and white.
And they're in a dictionary for a reason, right?
So obviously there's a meaning behind each word, but you're changing that definition yourself.
Not myself.
The way things have been going and things have been progressing, those definitions have changed.
They need to update the vocabulary.
The point is that just because the world's changing in that direction doesn't mean it's true.
It is true, they need to change the vocabulary.
No, no, but again, think for yourself.
Does that make sense?
Does what make sense?
If the world's saying, this guy's green, but you know it's blue...
Is it changing into blue-green?
You lost, man.
You lost.
I mean, just in general.
So you're saying that men are less masculine now.
I honestly...
And you're saying that as a biopilot, they're less chivalrous.
They're less masculine, and you're saying they're less chivalrous.
Which I guess kind of go hand in hand, but...
Is that what you're saying?
That's not exactly what I'm saying.
Then clarify for me, then.
Because you kind of gave...
I just feel like, to summarize, I just feel like the definitions have changed of masculine and feminine.
So I can't say that men are less masculine and women are more masculine.
Can you define masculinity and femininity?
Because I think that...
You really can't.
That's the point.
Like, it's fluid.
No, no, it's not.
Like, it's in the dictionary.
What does it say in the dictionary?
Let's be politically correct.
What is water?
What is a woman?
It's not an abstract word.
But in the dictionary, it's a word.
What does it say in the dictionary?
I don't have a dictionary.
Maybe you should get the dictionary to read it.
We'll come back to you and you can have something put together and answer.
What about you?
Would you agree that men are soft and not as masculine as they used to be?
Yes.
Why so?
I just think that with like I'm trying to think of it.
I don't want to say...
It was a war that created like...
Whatever.
I just think that world events happened, which created women to be more masculine, and then which made men more feminine, because women had to take on roles.
Would you say feminism was that world thing?
I think that it was more so women having to work because men had to go out in the war.
And I do feel like feminine does play a part, but I feel like feminism...
Do you think women had to work or they wanted to?
They had to.
Women were...
I gotta think of the...
I have to say the war so I can bring up facts and we're not just talking based off opinion, but there was a war.
I don't want to say the...
I want to say World War II. I was going to say...
Okay, yeah, World War II. So they didn't have to go to work?
I'm asking.
Well, no, I think women want...
No, they had to because the man had to go to war.
Women wanted to work.
We were fighting for our rights to work.
No, feminism was after that.
Yeah, in the 60s.
So I'm talking about the war.
So you're saying that...
Men becoming more feminine started back in World War II? I'm saying that it started from there.
I feel like when women had to go into the workplace and had to get jobs, that's what sparked the feminism movement, I believe.
I'm a PhD.
Okay, so I'll just say that you think that they're less masculine because women stepped up and worked more.
I think they're less masculine.
I mean, I don't agree with that.
So you think that it's...
I mean, like, I remember when I was, like, 17, I wanted to work.
I got two jobs because I wanted to work.
That doesn't mean, like, that makes men...
No, but I'm not talking about you choosing to want to work.
Because I'm a very feminine woman, but I always have had a job.
I'm saying, back in that time, in the 60s, women had...
I feel like that's where it started.
So because you have...
Because women had to go to work.
Because they had to help their man.
That made their man less masculine.
No, that didn't make their man less masculine, but since women had to take on the roles, because at that time, women weren't working.
So it was men going to provide for the family, and that was just a thing.
And that was just a family construct.
But men were at war while the women were working.
And then men had to go to war, and then the women started working.
Yeah, because someone had...
Exactly.
That doesn't make you less masculine.
And then that's what sparked the feminist movement, and that's what made, like...
I mean, World War II was the 40s.
Oh, it wasn't the 60s?
Oh, my bad.
It was the 40s.
No, my bad.
My bad.
Education doesn't make you smart.
No, but actually, education doesn't make you smart.
I learned that way back.
No, not at the time, but that was something I did on my own reading just because I wanted to learn it, not because the school system taught me.
Wrong book.
Yeah, I do read, actually.
Kind of hurt.
So I guess in general, I mean, so that we don't get...
But even then, too, I said, like, because I don't like to speak on things that are not necessarily facts.
So I did say I didn't know what the word was called.
And my timing is off, yes, but I do believe...
For two decades.
Oh, sorry.
But it was off, and I'll admit that.
But I do believe that sparked one part of it, and then another part was sparked, like, with the feminist movement.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think men are less masculine than they used to be?
In general, yes, I do.
Would you say this is both in the United States and in Israel, or just the United States problem?
Oh, that's a hard question.
I don't know, because I haven't been living in Israel for nine years, so it's hard to say.
When you were there, were the men less masculine?
No.
No.
Okay.
But you don't know what it would be like going back now?
Because, I mean, obviously a lot can change in almost a decade, right?
Okay.
But, alright.
So, in general, yes.
Okay, what about you?
Do you think men are less masculine nowadays?
Men are more pussies these days.
And they used to be more masculine.
Before?
Before.
And then, coming back to you, do you have your, like, a tied-up version of what you think as far as men being more masculine or less masculine today versus in the past?
Yes, men are less masculine.
In general, you would say?
In general.
Okay.
And that applies to them being less chivalrous, being less masculine, being less dominant?
Taking care of women less.
Okay.
All right.
Having less integrity.
Okay.
Would you say, since most of you think, well, all of you believe that men are less masculine nowadays, would you agree that women run most relationships in modern day?
Yes or no?
Yeah.
As a byproduct.
Okay.
What about you?
Which relationships?
Relationships with men, romantic relationships.
Since men are weaker nowadays, would you agree that women run most relationships?
No.
You don't think so?
No.
Why do you say that?
Because men can be manipulative too and make us think like we run it, but they actually do.
Okay, so you think even though men are weaker that women still run relationships?
Well, yeah, it can be both.
It can be both.
Have you ever heard the phrase, happy wife, happy life?
Yes.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that that saying is famous because female happiness is prioritized over male happiness in a relationship?
No, I don't think it's...
Well, listen, I have to say something.
Okay.
A lot of things...
Sorry.
A lot of things in English sound...
Not straight, as they're supposed to be, okay?
When I think in Hebrew, in my head, right?
When you say those things, it does not come over men happiness or, you know, the household.
It's just that English is a little twisted.
And we take things as we want to take them, and we can twist them around.
So you're saying, okay, happy wife, happy life.
Then it's over the happiness of the men in the relationship.
I don't agree because...
Okay, so you think men run most relationships in modern day today?
I think it's equal.
I think it's equal.
I think a healthy relationship is running with both men and women.
I understand that.
That's what you think is healthy.
But what I'm asking is, do you think in general...
are with men being more masculine, who do you think runs a majority of relationships between men and women?
Is it the woman running the relationship or is it the man running the relationship?
Generally.
I can't tell you.
I really can't.
No, seriously.
You want an honest question or you want me just to answer?
Okay, let's...
You want an honest answer or you want me just to answer?
Let's go ahead and think.
So give me a minute to think and I'll get back to you with an honest answer.
Okay, so here are some things for you to think about as you formulate your answer.
Think of maybe girls that you know that are in relationships, that are your friends.
Are their boyfriends running the relationship or are they telling their man what to do?
Maybe think of some family members in the United States, not in Israel.
Is the man telling his girl what to do or is it the other way around?
Like think of and then think in general.
Okay, when I look at television, when I look at pop culture, is the woman telling the man what to do or is it the other way around?
And I'm talking about specifically in modern day society.
Alright, I'll come back to you.
What about you?
Would you say that women are running relationships since men are less masculine than before?
You think men still run it in general?
Okay.
I would just tell her as well.
Think about who runs Hollywood.
What about you?
Do you think since men are weaker nowadays that women run relationships or men still run relationships?
I think men still run their relationships.
You think so?
Looks like you're random.
What about you?
I do think Can you come back to me after?
I'm sorry.
It's tough, huh?
I feel like a little bit for me it is.
What about you?
I think women definitely run the day-to-day of modern relationships.
I think the overall major decisions are still a majority masculine, but I think the day-to-day inner workings of a relationship are predominantly female.
Okay.
I guess I could simplify it, ladies.
Who do you think holds the leverage in most relationships nowadays, the man or the woman?
The women?
Okay, what about you?
Leverage, the guy.
You think the guy?
I mean, if he's a leader...
If he's a leader?
If he's a leader, then yes.
But are most men leaders?
No, okay.
You see, I need to be broken down a little bit.
I'm honest about that.
So then women, yes.
Alright.
What about you?
You still think men, right?
Run it?
Okay.
What about you now?
Women.
You think women run it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, so it looks like it's half and half.
Three of you think...
No.
Four of you think women run relationships, and then two of you think that men run relationships in day and age.
Okay.
Okay.
Now that we know that most men are not masculine, and we know that women are running a majority of relationships, at least according to most of you guys, right?
If you had a son, what boundaries would you tell him to put in place with his girlfriend to keep himself from being cheated on?
So let me go ahead.
One more time for y'all, right?
It's a deep question, I know.
It's a deep question.
We know that men are weaker than ever before, right?
They're less masculine.
Most guys don't have dominant leadership frame.
We established that.
They're weaker than before.
And we know, according to most of you, that women run a majority of relationships and have leverage in most of these relationships.
Knowing this, if you had a son, what boundaries would you tell him to have in place or rules with a woman that he's seeing or dating or courting that he needs to have in place to ensure he isn't cheated on, hurt, financially ripped off, etc.?
What would you tell your son to put in place?
An example can be, give him one out for free.
Hey, you should tell your significant other that she shouldn't be going on girls trips.
Right?
So what things would you tell your son to put in place to keep himself from getting hurt in a relationship or getting financially destroyed, whatever it may be?
Can I clarify real quick?
Yeah, go ahead.
Is there an age of this child?
Are we talking like teenager or are we talking like grown man?
Okay, good question.
Let's say he's 32 years old, has the shit together.
Okay.
Higher earner, successful.
Got it.
Whether entrepreneur or a W-2 worker, it doesn't matter, but he's a professional and does well for himself.
So he has a lot to lose.
What boundaries would you tell him he needs to put in place with a significant other?
We could start...
You want to start?
All right, go ahead.
Give us two or three things you would tell him to do.
So if you give her everything she wants, she will disrespect you because she will get comfortable.
So I feel like if she gets comfortable, she will go out to do whatever she wants outside.
Okay.
So don't give her everything.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's a boundary, I guess.
Is that not give her everything she asks for?
She will respect you more.
Okay.
If you say no.
Say no.
To some things.
Okay.
Anything else?
That's it?
Okay.
What about you?
What boundaries would you tell your son to put in place?
I'm thinking, can we get back to me?
You think a lot.
I do.
I do.
That's good.
That's good.
What about you?
Don't be run by vagina.
Don't what?
Don't be run by pussy.
Okay.
How would he enact on that though?
It's very easy to say don't be run by pussy.
Okay, so I guess the first one would be like watch your character and then have discipline would be the second one.
Be specific.
Actual, actionable.
Be disciplined.
I mean, I'm not be disciplined.
What rules should he impart on his significant other to avoid issues?
As a man, a leader in a relationship, what should be the standards for him or her?
Watch your character.
That's not standard.
Character is different for everybody.
That's a statement.
That is a statement, but you're right.
Is character morals?
Is character personality?
Just make sure that her character aligns with yours, but in the essence of just make sure she's not a gold digger.
Because I'm not going to say Should I come back to you too?
This is a deep question.
I'll give you guys that.
Yeah, you should come back to me.
Okay, what about you?
What rules and boundaries should your son put in place to avoid heartbreak and turmoil?
What would you tell him?
So all I got right now is take your time with this person.
Don't rush into anything.
There's no need to.
Okay, how much time specifically?
Date her for how long?
You should wait at least two years before moving in.
Things like that.
Don't make any rush decisions.
Should he move her in or should she move in with him?
They should decide that together whenever they're comfortable.
This is your son.
You give him the leverage.
Give him the actual advice.
They should get a separate apartment.
Okay, so don't live with her at all.
No, live with her, but don't live in her place and don't move her into your place.
Just get a fresh start.
Yeah, don't cohabitate.
Do cohabitate, but fresh.
Together, a brand new apartment together.
Yeah, both give up your apartments and start fresh.
She doesn't live anywhere else.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Everybody shut up and let her answer.
Go ahead.
Please clarify, because it didn't make sense.
The woman gives up her apartment, the guy gives up his apartment, and then you get a new place together.
Okay, so move together.
After two years is what you're saying.
At least.
I want to say at least.
Don't move in together.
What else would you tell your son?
Don't give her your credit card information.
If she wants you to buy something, she has to ask for it.
Or you have to do it for her.
I don't want to use his credit card.
I want cash.
You're a smart one.
Basically, don't rush.
That's really all I got.
For any purchase that is made, get permission.
What about if it's her money?
Does this account for both their money or just his?
Everyone's money is their money until you're married.
So keep it separate.
Separate accounts and then don't give her your credit card and get permission if you're going to spend money on anything.
Use a condom.
And use a condom.
That would be your boundaries.
What about you?
Kind of going back to what she said, definitely don't let pussy run everything.
Give us actual tangible examples.
If you do anything for her, pay attention to how she reciprocates the energy, if she shows any form of appreciation, any acts of service.
I feel like acts of service is a woman's biggest form of actually showing that they care for someone.
What acts of service should she be giving him?
Or should he demand?
I mean, the basics would be like cooking, cleaning, not stressing him out, not provoking arguments.
What if she's no longer giving him sex?
What would you tell your son to do?
I mean, leave her.
Leave her?
Yeah.
I mean, if she's not like...
Yeah, if you're not happy and she's not, you guys aren't having sex, I mean, yeah, just leave.
Or talk to her about it first and she's still not trying to have sex and something's curly up.
Okay.
But they're dating, right?
They're dating.
Yeah, but I mean, this is like boundaries and parameters that he needs to have set in place for it to be serious.
So acts of service, cooking, cleaning, sex, anything else?
Okay.
And then, what about you?
What boundaries would you tell your son he needs to have in place?
Okay, I actually have one of these.
So, this actually is a little easier, I think.
Do you have a son?
Yes.
So, from my perspective, I think it's a little easier.
He's not, obviously, that age, but that's kind of why I wanted to clarify.
So, for me, it would be definitely take your time.
There's no specific time.
I just think that, like, you...
Give us a minimum, though.
How long do you think it should take to vet a woman?
Minimum of a year before you move in together, but I'm also a huge advocate of living together prior to marriage.
If you're going to lead towards marriage, then you need to live together, because I have witnessed, personally, relationships that had gone on for years, and then they cohabitated, and they couldn't live together.
Cheating started, or cheating was uncovered at that point.
Okay.
Okay.
No, no.
What else?
And then I would say maintain separate bank accounts.
Make sure that you're both, you know, you're both have responsibilities.
Continue to make sure that you have open communication.
They both feel heard.
So I'm a huge advocate of starting therapy like almost right away or having some sort of communication like exercise so that you can learn to really speak to each other and have mutual communication.
Because I think a lot of the breakdowns of relationships are one person not feeling heard.
Would you advise that...
Remember, this is the advice you're dispensing to your son.
Yep.
Would you advise that he have open communication and communicate with her when that gives the female the advantage?
Um...
Because we already talked about how transparency and openness a lot of the times...
Correct.
...put the woman in the driver's seat and put her in a position of power.
Um...
Remember, this is for your son.
Yeah.
No.
I would say that, yes, still be transparent, but also understand that you do risk her walking if you are transparent.
But I think he'll sleep better knowing that he was upfront and honest from the very, very beginning than having to worry about Being together for 15 years and wondering if he had lied the whole time, if they were really treated together.
So transparency with an awareness of a loss potentially incoming.
Correct.
Yes.
Okay.
Anything else?
Nope.
She actually gave good answers.
It probably prompted some thoughts from the rest of you guys.
All right.
What about you, Ms.
Israel?
You didn't answer before.
What parameters would you tell your son to put on a girlfriend?
Yeah so a lot of things the girls already said so communication is key like there must be good communication they have to be able to speak with each other and be open with each other another thing is would you tell your son to be kind of I'm asking the same thing for her would you think it's in your son's best interest to be honest with her when she can use that against him later on remember your son has a lot to lose Well,
another thing I would say to my son is to bring her to me so I can meet her and get to know her and get a feel from her and understand what's going on, you know, like from the mother instinct.
What are you going to look for from mother instinct to avoid then?
What are some red flags if you want to tell your son immediately?
Values.
Values.
If values are not aligned and they're not matching, then it's gonna be a crisis in the long run.
Okay, what are those values that need to be aligned specifically?
So the values, it depends on the upbringing.
So if there is like either a religious background that it's important to both of them, and they both want to maintain it, or if it's either one of them, then that will create a problem in their relationship later on.
Okay, I'm saying specifically for your son then, so go ahead and give it to me.
So does she need to be Jewish for you?
For me?
Yeah.
Yes.
It's a requirement.
Okay.
So one of the parameters already, she has to be Jewish, right?
Okay.
What else?
That her family needs to be from a good upbringing.
You know, there's a good family that she has a clean background.
She's a good woman, good girl, educated.
So no OnlyFans?
No OnlyFans.
Okay.
How educated does she have to be?
Educated enough to hold a conversation, to speak her mind.
So intelligent.
Yes.
So she can have a high school diploma, but be intelligent.
You'll be okay with that.
Okay.
So what else?
Anything else that you would...
Character, good character, that she has charisma.
If she's lazy and she doesn't want to do anything all day and she just want to lay in bed and just want to be, you know, taken care of, then...
So that's a boundary you would put on your son.
If she doesn't want to work, no.
Well, it's okay if you don't want to work, don't work.
Do something with your life.
Do something that inspires you.
Do something that makes you grow.
Because it doesn't even have to do with my son.
It has to do with her life.
She's going to be depressed and then she's going to ruin his life.
What if that's OnlyFans?
Well, that's not...
She's not even gonna come into my house.
From the beginning.
Okay.
What do you call it?
Sharmuta.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
You're gonna get bent on YouTube.
It's okay.
They don't understand Arabic.
Okay.
So, all right.
Who else didn't...
Someone didn't get to go...
Russia, did you go?
Oh, no, no, you did.
What about you?
Did you finish your point?
Someone we missed out on.
Yeah, you just basically...
Go ahead.
Oh, so one of the things was time.
That was another thing, a boundary is time.
And back to just being disciplined as far as, like, use your brain.
Like, if you see a red flag, act on it.
Don't let the pussy...
Let me ask one follow-up question then.
What behaviors would you tell your son to absolutely forbid from his potential girlfriend?
We could start.
Who wants to go first?
You want to go first?
Okay, go ahead.
What behaviors should he absolutely forbid?
Absolutely no letting her yell at you or raise her voice at you or talk to you like you're her kid.
Okay.
No yelling and no...
Okay.
Just no yelling, no cursing, calling out your name.
That's dead.
Like, none of that.
Alright.
What about somebody else?
You had your hand up first?
No?
Okay, what about...
I'm gonna go to all of you, by the way, so...
Come back.
You're gonna, yeah.
Okay, what behaviors would you tell them to absolutely never tolerate?
Abusive behavior.
Lying.
Okay, abusive is a very catch-all term.
Lying.
Okay.
Being deceptive.
Disrespect.
Okay.
What level of deceit?
Because women wear makeup and that's considered deceptive.
No.
Like something that is more moral.
It has to do with morals and values.
You know?
Lying.
Okay.
Like just saying a lie.
Okay.
So don't tolerate lying.
Anything else?
Yeah, if she's not honest, if she's...
But what level of honesty?
Because, let's be honest here, there's different spectrums, right?
It could be, oh, you look handsome today, even though he looks like shit.
Should he get rid of her for lying about that?
Or should he get rid of...
What level of lying does it need to cut her off?
Listen, if she's trying to throw a surprise party for him and then she's lying to him that she's going to go, I don't know, to be with her friend and then she's playing a party at home, then that's okay because it's a lie.
It's a white lie for the purpose of making him happy.
But if it's a lie, like she said, I'm going to go hang out with my friend and then she's going to hang out with a guy and he doesn't know about that.
If he's sleeping with her and she's saying that she's making him happy, Or he's making her orgasm and she keeps saying that over and over and over again.
Is that an okay lie?
Because it's making him feel better.
No, that's not okay.
But that's a white lie.
It's a slippery slope.
Well, it's okay sometimes.
It depends when it's okay.
No, first of all, in general, I don't think it's okay to lie, period.
I don't think, no, because it's against yourself.
We do things like that.
I think relationships with others first begin with the relationship that we have with ourselves.
If we lie to ourselves, we're going to feel comfortable to lie to others.
Sometimes we need to lie in order to not to get to places that we don't want to get.
And that's for the pure use of the protection of our own peace and our own safety.
And that's So lying is kind of where it is.
So you're saying lying when it's deceptive in practice, which might lead to infidelity.
Any other behaviors that you would tell them are unacceptable?
Same thing if she's just trying to get money from him and not do nothing all day.
If she's just trying to live off him and not do nothing.
She has to have a life.
She has to have passion.
Okay.
You lied just now, man.
Any behaviors that are automatically you need to tell your son to watch out for or not tolerate from his girl?
When she's aggressive and when she treats bad her parents.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wait, did I just hear her say, it's okay to lie?
Just to find why you can lie.
I'm talking about you!
What?
No, I did not say that.
You said it's okay to lie if it protects you from going deeper into more lies.
Oh, I can give you an example so I can explain what I was talking about.
Let's say someone is asking you something that has to do with your safety, your address, okay?
And you don't want to give that address to that man or this person.
You don't know who is going to, you know, tell it to who and then who is going to come to your home.
Then instead of saying, you know, yeah, I live in, I don't know, in Miami, you say I live in Pompono Beach.
That's okay.
If it's for the sake of your safety, then it's okay to lie.
But why do you have to tell them where you live at all?
Why can't you just say it's none of your business?
Yes, you can.
I mean, that would be my answer.
If I didn't want somebody to know where I live, I'd just say it's none of your business.
Some people, they don't know when no is no.
Then you walk away.
I still don't justify it in saying like...
That you're from a different place.
You just don't have to answer it.
That's an extreme situation, of course.
You just said you had a perfect example.
So I'm only saying there's another...
Well, the example is just because it happened to me and I couldn't walk away.
I was in a public place.
It was an event.
Someone asked me.
I said, I'm not interested in answering.
You asked me over and over again and I lied.
I guess you're saying.
Sometimes, I can understand because...
But it's not like a lie.
You may need to lie to protect your country.
Okay, let's move on.
No, but I get it, I get it.
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Any more input here, guys, before we move on?
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Jake Kulik says, First, what is your intake on letting your girl go to an all-girl club?
Ladies, if your man told you he would be okay with you going to an all-girl club, would you listen or still want to go to a regular club?
Thanks, FNF. What's an all-girl club?
I guess there's no guys there.
Where do they have those?
Oh, they actually have those.
My friend actually just went to one in Orlando, apparently.
They, like, shut down the club and it was just only girls allowed in.
So they don't let men in?
I mean, it was an event, but it was just all girls for the night.
But it was cool because, you know, you're just vibing.
So the premise is girls say all the time, hey, babe, I want to go with my friends and have a good time.
So you can go to a club, but an all-girls club.
Would you still go or would you want to go to a regular club?
I'd still go.
Would you still go?
I would go.
I mean, I would go to either.
So remember, your man wants you to go to an all-girls club.
You can go have fun, but only to an all-girls club, not a regular club with guys.
Yeah, I would definitely.
I would go.
Because I think you can cheat with a girl, too.
It doesn't take just a guy-girl to have an infidelity.
True.
I mean, so...
But would you be cool with that if you guys told you?
I would be okay with that just because, personally for me, I already don't like men anyways.
Like, I don't like dancing guys in the club.
I don't like them talking to me.
Emotional, damn it!
Okay, I mean, that's fair.
No, that's facts.
Like, I just...
Men are weird in the club.
Just be nice to meet you, not other guys.
What about you?
Sure, that's fine.
So you're cool when I'm going to a regular club like Vendome or, you know, Wink Wink?
Yep.
For you?
I think that's Kat though, but that's okay.
For you?
I'd go.
No, no.
I mean, all the time though.
Oh, all the time?
I mean, if...
No.
I just want to shake my ass for my homegirls, so I don't go anywhere.
But I mean, all the time, not really.
I don't go to the club all the time.
It's really a thing.
So, one time, yeah, I'll go, but...
Okay.
So, but let's say you were an avid club goer, and he said to you, only goes club.
Are you cool with that?
Oh, yeah.
So your friends say they want to go to a regular club, but you can't go because...
If my friends said they want to go to a regular club and they didn't want to go to the all-girls club, then I'm going to the regular club.
But your man doesn't want you to go to the all-girls club.
But are you insecure?
Why can't I? Ah, there it is.
There it is.
No, but I mean, if my friends want to go out and it's, like, whatever occasion.
So fuck your man.
It's not fuck him, but it's, like, be real.
Like, I would go, like, it's an occasion.
I don't go to the club all the time.
Like, why can't I go out one time with my homegirls?
I'm a PhD.
Okay.
Well, not yet.
On the way, on the way.
What about you?
I would go to the all-girls club.
Yeah.
Okay, so only all girls club, never regular club.
Yeah, if that's what makes my men happy, I'll do that.
Awesome.
And then for you?
How is he going to be able to go in if it's only women too?
There's no women club here.
Like, there's only women's club in Spain or something.
And if there was a women club here, I will be there.
I love it.
Jesus!
I love her.
Her answers are amazing, by the way.
You're a great person.
She's just adorable.
Oh my gosh.
I love her.
Okay.
Okay.
Hungry ladies pick one.
A comfortable, high-profile status job where you get to travel only $60,000 per year or...
Clean sewage for $150,000 per year.
This will be your only source of income.
So ladies, which one do you prefer?
High profile, high status job where you get to travel and you get $60,000 a year or clean sewage for $150,000 per year.
We'll start here and then work our way.
Which one?
High profile.
Okay.
Do you get the travel on the other option or Or are you stuck with the trash?
You're stuck with the trash?
Nah.
I'll go with the first option, a comfortable high profile.
The travel is all expenses paid.
But you only get 60k a year.
60k.
What about you?
The first option.
What's the point of making all that money if you can't travel and spend it?
You can spend it.
In the sewer?
What about you?
I'll do 60k.
What about you?
I'd actually do the 150.
You'd do the 150?
Okay.
Interesting.
I think that question kind of illustrates how women are more concerned with status and experiences versus making money.
Versus like most guys would probably like to do the sewer job.
Yeah.
Because they understand that their value is typically intimately tied to how much money they earn.
But okay.
Interesting.
But that's nasty.
I'm not trying to clean those sewage.
I just want to be able to travel.
That goes back to what you said before.
That men have a higher proclivity to work harder than women.
Remember?
So I just back my point.
Yeah.
Girls get mad at me when I say that men typically work harder than women and they get all mad.
But I mean, there's different jobs that are working hard that it's just not necessarily a nasty job.
You know what I mean?
When it comes to physical labor, more laborious professions absolutely overwhelmingly dominate them because women choose just to not go on those jobs.
I mean, controversial take.
I say women in general are lazy when it comes to resource creation.
And what I mean by that is women a lot of times aren't incentivized to work hard, laborious jobs or work long hours or take less vacation at the cost of earning more money because women don't have the same They don't have the same impetus and the same motivation to go out there and create excess resources because a woman's value is not based on how much money she earns or the status she acquires.
her values based on her beauty, youth, and fertility.
And then I started getting this like, and I didn't want to like, I'm not going to have a rebuttal if it's not like to everything you said.
Like if I didn't hear, wasn't listening to everything you said.
But wouldn't you have to listen to everything I said to be able to rebut it?
That's what I'm saying.
That's why I didn't have a rebuttal.
Because I didn't, like, I didn't hear everything.
She had to reboot it.
So you didn't listen?
Okay.
I listened to the first part, and then, like, yeah, I'm sorry.
Wow.
Black screen.
Isn't a part of occupational therapy listening?
It really is.
It really is.
I am a good listener, though.
I'm going to be a great therapist.
So what are you going to do when they're sitting there telling the boring ass story of their life?
They'll be doomed.
No, but the answers that you say, they have to actually...
I'm sorry, I was listening.
Having empathetic answers and then having answers because you're going to say every...
You need to come correct with your answers because you're going to have a response to everything that's said.
So I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I heard everything that you said when I got distracted.
Wouldn't that motivate you to listen even more?
It would, but, you know, attention is like something came to my brain.
I'm so sorry.
Like, I was listening to the first part.
I really was.
You know, I just thought, yeah, it's fine.
All right.
Fantastic.
What about you?
You were trying to say something?
Yeah, but then we got way off track.
But I was going to say that men do tend to work harder.
I agree with that.
Or, like, they have more incentives to work harder because they have to provide for the family.
But also, I feel like women...
A goal for a woman is also to have a work-life balance.
And I feel like men might work themselves crazy and then be unhappy with all that money.
While women prioritize other things besides money.
I want money and I want a career, but I also want to be at peace and I want to be fulfilled and be happy.
Fair enough.
I mean, yeah, that's just another way of saying what I said, that women are not willing to make the sacrifices required to achieve financial excellence to the same degree that men are.
But I think that is a sacrifice in a way, because I'm sacrificing making more money for that peace of mind.
What the hell was that?
Only you can say that and make no sense saying that.
No, but you can make $60,000 instead of She just reframed it, saying like, I'm making a sacrifice by not making more money to do what I want to do.
That's a sacrifice in a way.
The point is that women are not as likely to make sacrifices in their personal life in the furtherance of financial success that men are.
Because women are not evaluated on their success.
That's precisely what I'm saying.
Go ahead.
Because if it was the case that women, like their mating options were directly tied to their social status and their ability to earn income, we would see way more women in construction.
We see way more women in STEM. We see way more money in women being engineers, being Alaskan fishermen, oil, offshore drilling.
Women would do these hard jobs if their status, excuse me, if their status mattered in their income towards getting a mate.
But they don't.
It doesn't.
So that's why women don't do these jobs.
Well, actually, I read a thing about STEM. The reason women don't get into STEM careers is because there's pressure put onto women.
So I do feel like a lot of it is because of society.
Like, not society, but yeah, even, yeah.
Okay, so explain to me why women dominate college attendance.
60 to 70% of college universities most of the time are attended by females.
Why do men, even though they're a minority of the college population, make an overwhelming amount of the STEM students?
So the study was about how, like, it was a teacher, they gave the kids, like, a paper, and they said to fill out this problem.
And then the men just, like, went away and did the problem, but the women were, like, overthinking.
And then they looked at the history, and what the women put was correct, but they doubted themselves.
So they went back.
Huh?
Overanalyzed.
Yeah, they overanalyzed, and they doubted themselves, and then they went back.
So I feel like that's part of the reason women aren't into them.
I don't think it's because...
Yeah, I think STEM is...
I think a big reason why women don't get into STEM is because, again, women aren't necessarily interested in things like men are.
Women are more interested in people.
That's why they tend to get into occupational therapy, sociology.
They want to work with people because women are just more socially oriented in general than men are.
And these jobs, unfortunately, tend to pay less than other jobs that are more laborious or harder or require more critical thinking like STEM. But women just don't want to get into these jobs because for what?
What's the reason?
I think because it would actually...
I don't mean to cut you off.
I'm sorry.
I think, too, because I think, to further your point, it would limit their mating because I think that it makes them more masculine in those laborious jobs.
To a degree, y'all.
Right?
Yeah, I mean, to a degree.
I mean, women still go into, like, you know, they try to still, you know, do entrepreneur work and CEO work or whatever.
But what I've realized is typically women choose jobs that are less laborious physically.
What were you going to say?
Right.
So I'm in STEM, and as I was saying earlier about the sacrifices, so if I had to take a high-paying job that wouldn't leave me space for my family and things like that, I would sacrifice that job because...
Which degree did you get first, psychology or infotech?
First was psychology.
So then you went into the workforce, realized this is trash, and then you went back in for another degree?
I realized I have the capacity to do bigger things.
She didn't like her job.
Yeah, you didn't like your job, so you went back.
I liked my job.
I thought my job was very rewarding, but it was very emotional.
What was it?
I worked with kids with autism.
Why didn't you stay?
I was getting to attach to kids.
It was very hard, actually.
Fuck them kids, right?
We'll say that.
Well, I guess I'm just not as strong enough.
Okay, and then you decided to go into tech, which is a complete 180.
Was it to make more money, or was it...
It was to make more money, but it was also because I don't want to be emotional at work.
I feel like it took a toll on me as a person.
Okay, and then now you work in Infotech.
What do you do specifically?
So I actually just graduated.
Oh, so you didn't land a job yet in tech?
So I just started looking for a job.
I'm currently bartending.
Wait, so I have a question.
Do y'all care what type of job a woman has, realistically?
Exactly, so...
So would you rather have a woman with no job?
And no career?
And no ambition?
Men typically don't care about these things.
But wouldn't you get bored with this type of person?
If you're spending long periods of time together?
Or for the rest of your life?
I mean, from a male perspective, men don't look at these survival characteristics that you're describing of being ambitious, earning money, and status.
Men don't typically care.
The more money a man makes, the less he cares about these things.
What about like a power couple?
Do we not believe in power couples?
That's one of the biggest lies.
Let's be honest here.
Your money that you make from your job, are you going to spend it on us?
No.
You're mainly going to spend it on yourself.
That's not true.
You spend money on your man?
Of course.
When I'm in a relationship, I spend money on my man.
I'm glad you said that.
Do you pay the bills?
No, thank you.
I did pay the bills.
How long?
I've always been 50-50, even though that wasn't the perfect situation for me.
How did it work out for you?
It didn't work out for me.
Thank you!
But that doesn't mean I'm going to abandon my ambitions and my I'll be honest, there's no such thing as a power couple because women don't respect men that are equal to them.
So for us to be a power couple, that would assume equality.
And the last time I checked, women don't want an equal.
They want a superior in almost every metric of human regard, whether it's strength, competence, income capacity, confidence, ambition.
Women don't necessarily seek an equal.
And if they do meet an equal, it's just a matter of time until that buzzer beater hits.
And she says, you know what, man, I'm going to go shoot with somebody else.
So what if, like, you're my mentor, we're in the same field, and...
Stop the show.
By being a mentor, what does that inherently mean?
We're not equal.
We're not here.
You're already in a supportive position.
But I think that's still a power couple if you're investing in the same thing.
If you're my mentor and I'm helping you, let's say I'm your assistant.
So a power couple to you is still when you're assisting a man.
I think there's different definitions of a power couple.
Okay, so in the general sense that people use power couple, they like to use someone like a Jay-Z or a Beyonce, two individuals who are both wildly successful in their own endeavors that come together in a relationship.
That's typically how the power couple frame is used, right?
What I'm saying is that in general, the whole power couple concept is a lie.
It's a facade.
It doesn't exist because women don't want a man who's equal to them.
They want a man who's superior to them.
And I would even argue that Beyonce-Jay-Z situation isn't even a power couple because Beyonce's superior to, excuse me, Jay-Z's superior to Beyonce in almost every regard.
She's old.
She's not as attractive as she used to be.
She makes a lot of money.
She's gorgeous.
Okay.
You gotta understand that even though she's attractive, she's never gonna be as attractive when she was 21 versus being damn near 50.
Women's value is typically tied to their age, unfortunately.
Kind of sucks for y'all.
I mean, take it as Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce anyway.
And she ain't going nowhere.
And she stayed.
So who has the leverage in a relationship?
Who has more value?
Jay-Z does.
And I would argue that that's what makes him attractive to Beyonce in the first place.
Women lie and say they want a power couple, but the reality is women want a man who has power so that they can extract from it.
To make them more powerful.
There you go.
Women acquire power through their man, typically.
Not necessarily, you know, some women acquire it on their own.
Fantastic, sure.
But in general, most of them will prefer to get their power through their man being successful.
That's why women want to take a last name.
That's why women want a leader.
That's why they want a man who's superior.
So the whole power couple dynamic and equal partnerships, I think it's a big lie that we say in America.
It doesn't exist because women are not attracted to equals.
They're attracted to superiors.
I mean, even an example you get with a mentor, that's a subordinate position.
He has the power, not you.
He's choosing you as an assistant.
It was just an example, but can a couple own a business together and run different aspects of the business?
Because women bring something to the table.
But it's a man's business.
The woman's assisting.
Yeah.
No, we're talking about a different example now.
Now this is a different example.
Okay, so who owns the business?
Because there's got to be one.
They're married.
They're married.
They own the business together.
Okay, but who started the business?
They started it together.
Well, there was money.
Nothing typically gets done by a board.
That's a fairytale thing.
There typically has to be one decision maker.
Anything of real consequence, whether it's a CEO, sorry, a Fortune 500 company, or the United States being run by a president, there's always a final decision maker.
If I may, I think what they're actually, if I'm translating all of this correctly, I think more what they're talking about is like a team, right?
Like, even in a team situation, there's still a point guard, there's still a leader, there's still a captain, right?
So even on a team, you can fight and want the same thing and work towards the same goal, but there's still ultimately going to be that captain.
Yeah.
The only time teamwork from a totally egalitarian standpoint and everyone is equal, the only time teamwork actually works is when women work with each other.
When a woman is dealing with a man, she's expecting competence and superiority.
Doesn't work any other way around.
Women are not attracted to equals, man.
That's just an unfortunate reality.
Men have to be better than women in every regard to even get their attention.
Retweet.
Okay.
Retweet.
Love that.
I agree.
Did you have anything on that or anybody else?
Disagree, disagree.
I don't know.
Sure.
I mean, like I said earlier that men bring certain things to the table and women bring other things to the table.
So I feel like even though a man might make the majority of the decisions, a woman can still bring something valuable and make certain decisions at certain times.
Not all the time, but I'm saying...
When it comes to something that this woman is good at, let's be basic and say something having to do with emotions.
And then that's when she can contribute.
Something inconsequential.
That doesn't matter.
Something that matters.
I think all the things that matter, the man needs to be the leader.
What about customer relations?
Women are sometimes more personable than men and they can get along with other people more.
So what if I'm taking care of getting the customers and just getting their trust and you're taking care of the technical things.
That's a replaceable position.
If you took you out of that position or took the female out of that position, would that business still run effectively?
Or could he then hire effectively somebody to do that role in a replacement?
Absolutely.
So I kind of, you know, if you play chess, right?
The queen, if you look at it, she can move as many spaces on the board in any direction.
And I would liken that a lot to how women move in the world, right?
Women are able to get certain opportunities once they come of age.
They're able to be on yachts and meet millionaires and get celebrity situations and get into clubs for free if they wear enough makeup and dresses and stuff and get on podcasts and all this other stuff, right?
They can move as many pieces on the board.
However, you know...
The queen can die and you can still win the game, right?
And on top of that, you can get a pawn to the other side and turn it into a queen.
But if the king is surrounded, the game's over.
Okay?
And I don't mean that to say, oh, yeah, this is my misogynistic thing or whatever.
But what I'm trying to say is, in general, the value that women provide is almost always replaceable by another female.
And the reason for that is because men have to bring way more value than women do.
So if the king is surrounded, the game's over.
But if you lose your queen, you can always get another pawn across and turn it into a queen.
So in other words...
Men are made, women are just born, man.
So it is what it is.
But I think men have to inherently bring way more value to a relationship to even get that situation.
That's why I don't think, I don't believe in equal partnerships.
I don't think it works when it's equal between the two genders because women are just not set up to respect an equal.
They're set up to respect only a superior.
For good reason, because you guys take way more of the biological risk.
You've got to carry a kid for nine months.
You've got to align this guy for security and provisioning, etc.
You've got to make sure you're with that guy.
Right?
Checkmate.
Can I ask a question?
Yeah.
So, then what will it take a man to respect a woman?
Not much.
I mean, it's very easy for a woman to come in and be respected by...
I would argue most guys respect women by default.
Yeah, up front.
But women don't respect men by default.
And that's when men lose respect for women.
Which is okay, but I've noticed that women in general don't respect...
A majority of women don't respect a majority of men.
However, a majority of men absolutely respect the majority of women.
And not queens.
You think so?
I actually don't think so.
You don't think so?
Why don't you think so?
By the way that men, even like the way they interact with women at the club, the way that they interact with women at the club, the way they just interact with women.
You're at a club.
Yeah.
Or even in general.
Even in general.
Today, for example.
Today.
Go ahead.
I was getting a banana.
And like a person, like, hey.
Hey, hey.
Like, that's.
I don't think that's respectful.
Like being like...
Like catcalling and stuff like that.
I don't think that's respectful.
Okay.
Let me ask you this.
That one guy, right?
What was it?
One guy that catcalled you?
I mean, that happens.
Or even just like men honking and screaming out the window.
This is what we tend to not do, though.
We only notice the negative, but we don't notice the positives.
You also probably don't notice the guys that hold the door open for you.
You notice the guys that say ma'am?
You don't notice the guys that treat you very well?
I actually do notice.
Literally, I do notice.
I think kindness is a beautiful thing.
So when people are kind, even when someone says have a good day when they're coming out the elevator, I'm like, touch.
So I do notice.
I would argue that most of those guys, you probably get more of that than the cat calling.
Actually...
I wouldn't say.
How many cat calls did you get today?
Only one person tried talking to me today and it was a cat call.
So if we're speaking on today alone, it's more disrespect than respect.
But how many people were in your environment today that didn't disrespect you?
That didn't do respect or disrespect.
But nobody held the door for me today.
Nobody walked by you in the lobby downstairs and didn't catcall you.
I'm sorry?
When we were downstairs, before we came upstairs.
Oh yeah, nobody had called me, but no men held the door either.
Nobody did anything that was respectful, per se.
Men are respectful, yes.
But by default, wouldn't them not catcalling you in the lobby or walking around even in the attire that we're all dressed in?
Isn't that respect by default?
Yeah, I feel like the guys out there were respectful.
They were very respectful.
They didn't look at our boobs.
They didn't say anything crazy to me.
They didn't make any comments.
I had guys say excuse me.
I had guys say they smiled as they walked by.
It was very pleasant.
It was very polite.
So I consider that being gentlemen.
Privilege is what?
Invisible to those that have it.
You might not say all the time, but she's right.
They're being respectful.
There was a woman actually, very interesting.
There was a woman that was a man for a year and a half.
And she actually ended up offing herself after the end of the year and a half because she was like, wow, life as a man is way harder than I thought.
And a lot of the times when females switch over and become a man, one of the biggest obstacles they deal with mentally is like, The lack of respect that they get in society and how invisible they are to individuals.
Women get a lot of privileges and certain situations set up for them just because they're female that men will never get.
And that's okay.
I'm not sitting here crying for it.
But what I'm saying in general is I've noticed that a majority of men absolutely do respect women, but a majority of women absolutely do not respect men.
Here's a perfect example to kind of back you up too, is I've taken several Ubers in the last couple of weeks, and I had a suitcase with me.
If I have a male driver, 99.9% of the time he is getting out of the car, he's opening the trunk, he's putting my suitcase in the trunk, he's opening my door, and he's letting me in.
Now I've had female drivers that have not gotten out of the front seat.
They're like, if you're a girl, you've got your own suitcase.
So, like, it's a perfect example of...
I don't think a lot of people see...
Women get the equality that they seek from other women.
And they don't like that shit.
Wait, we split the bill?
Wait, wait, wait, you're not moving my bags?
Yeah, I mean...
And here's the other thing, too, because I know you said that chivalry is dead or whatever.
I mean, that's true.
I would agree that, to a degree, chivalry is dead.
But I would argue that a big reason why chivalry is dead is because women are more masculine.
So if women are more masculine...
You can't necessarily command and demand chivalry when chivalry was instituted in a time when men and women weren't equal.
I'd argue now that women are more equal than ever before.
I think women have more rights and privileges than men.
So how could you demand chivalry while simultaneously having all the advantages and being equal?
It doesn't make sense, right?
I would argue you got what you wanted.
Yeah, I got the equality.
Because there's a problem with chivalry.
You cannot demand chivalry and equality at the same time.
Because chivalry in itself...
Is inequality.
You're getting different treatment based on you being a female, which conflicts with feminism and equality.
So you gotta pick one.
Either you get treated like a lady, you get privileges that only women get, or you get the equality that you seek, and you get treated like everybody else, which won't be shivery.
Bars.
I don't know.
Anybody have anything?
Mic drop.
Israel doesn't like that?
No, I don't like something else you said.
Sure, go ahead.
What did you not like?
And we got to close up soon.
They said men are made and then...
Women are born?
Women are born.
Okay.
What do you disagree with on that?
That women are also giving birth and you came from one also.
So it's not right to say that men are made.
Okay.
You can say men can be self-made and they, you know, they work themselves for success, but it doesn't like...
Okay, let's go up your example because you said I came from a woman, right?
All right.
Well, you did.
Yeah.
But let's go back, because if we're going to go with that frame, then we've got to go all the way back and go back in time, right?
So my mom...
My parents will show together to this day, right?
Sudan.
They met in Sudan.
And my dad had to reach a certain level of status and have certain things in place to even get a shot with my mom.
So my dad had to make himself become a man to be attractive for my mom.
My mom just existed.
And she'll even admit that.
My dad had to reach certain requirements to even be able to marry her.
And you're from the Middle East, you understand.
So that's just how it is.
I mean, when I say that women are born and men are made, that's effectively true because when a woman's 18 years old, bam, she has everything that she needs, right?
And some cultures, maybe even younger, right?
Age of consent is different, different places, different cultures.
But in general, women are born with their value, right?
And their beauty.
And then they're able to attract a man off that.
But the man has to do things to become attractive.
He's got to get a job.
He's got to learn how to fight.
He's got to learn how to get in shape.
He's got to have some accolades to his name.
He has to make his last name worth having for the woman to want to take it.
So that's what I mean when I say that.
Okay.
Alright.
Fair enough.
And in Israel, it's the same thing.
I mean, this is kind of how it is everywhere.
Like, you know, men have to become something for the woman to be attracted in the first place.
But I think women kind of overlook that because for women, you're in a privileged position where the man comes to you.
It's not the other way around.
Are women approaching men?
I mean I have Okay ask yourself This is the first time I've ever approached me So I'll be honest he's right Yeah but ask yourself the man that you did approach He was probably well above average If you actually had the gall to approach him We're talking about an exceptional man if a woman makes the approach, correct?
The guy you approached?
I don't approach men, but I do know women who approach men.
I know women who approach men.
Why'd you say women approach men?
Because I know women who approach men.
But in general, do women approach men?
No.
And the example in a club You can see right there and then who approaches who in the club.
The man approaches women in the club.
Thank you.
Sorry, you had a point?
Yeah.
Well, I want to add that I don't want to judge no one, but I know that Jewish guys are more wild just because His family or they don't let them have fun or be like free because his family or they tell them like you can't have a girlfriend that's not Jewish so he's gonna be having fun with other girls.
That are not Jewish.
You know what I mean?
I mean, a part of that is because the lineage is with the female, so the mom's got to be Jewish for it to be passed.
Yeah.
That's a part of the reason.
Jewish Jewish Jewish Jewish Jewish Jewish So we'll get last thoughts and comments here Yeah Um Yeah Okay, all right.
I'll fly through these.
Shout out to IRS and YouTube memberships.
I appreciate that.
First of all, Sasha, your only source of protein will be from us after we take you to dinner.
Yeah!
Who's that?
He said that to Sasha.
Yes, sir!
Fresh, good donut pillow ready, aka the Caucasian adapter for her after we finish bedroom fun time.
Make the move big home.
Yeah!
Get him, Fresh!
Get him, Fresh!
That's my dog!
That's my dog!
No.
You don't have a response?
That's my dog!
As a man of God, that is not me.
Fresh, thank you for donating to the church.
World Economic Forum.
You will be happy and owe nothing.
He always comments when certain things are on the panel.
I can see what you're doing here.
Shout out to Wayne for gifting 10 more YouTube memberships.
I appreciate that.
Shout out to Wayne.
And then we got John.
Ladies, let's say you had an emotional son who cried whenever he ran into hardship in life.
Would you say it'd be more acceptable for him to just be emotional with his wife as he is to you?
Yes, if you think he should be emotional with his wife like he's crying to you as a mom.
Damn, none of y'all.
Nope.
And then y'all expect us to be vulnerable.
I wonder why.
Cold-blooded.
Not to an extreme.
Oh, now it's not to an extreme.
Not my son.
I ain't got to feel the vibe first.
Fresh and fit.
Fleshy Pro CEO here.
Your previous Fleshy Pro chat had me rolling, but ain't about losing respect.
It's about leveling up.
Bench press for your bedroom skills.
What y'all think?
Huh?
Wait, what?
What are you talking about?
There's a lot in there.
I don't know.
What are you saying?
Alpha Male Matters.
Will you sacrifice your career to take care of a family and serve your men if your men proves anything?
Love FMF from India.
Feminism is getting here.
Two men.
God save us all.
Okay, raise your hands if you would sacrifice your career to take care of a family and serve your man.
Raise your hands if you sacrifice your career.
Okay, only four of y'all?
Five?
I have.
I would, but I really love my career.
I love acting and I love my career.
I love my career.
Tits on Playboy.
Most attractive race to you and why?
We can run real quick with this.
Most attractive race and why?
Black, white, Asian, Jewish.
Most attractive, I think.
Cuban, Colombian, Mexican.
Okay, Hispanics.
Let's attractive, Jewish.
What the?
They are cute.
They are just identical.
What about you?
It's not a race.
Some people look at it as a race.
They call it the Jewish people.
Some people call it a race.
What about you?
Least attractive, most attractive?
Most attractive, I would say, Israelis.
That's where I was born and it feels familiar.
The least attractive.
What if they're Jewish, but not from Israel, maybe American?
That's a hard one.
I'm open to that, but I feel culture and, you know, just the language and stuff.
It's just, yeah.
But open.
Okay.
Open.
So for that, the most important thing is they're Jewish.
Well, the most important thing is that they're a good person in the heart.
It's beyond anything.
Well, of course, I'm not telling you to get with a terrible person.
But assuming everything is equal.
I would say also most attractive can be Latins, people from Russia, from, you know, Eastern Europe.
Least attractive to me.
Niggas.
So Caucasian, white, white, white, white.
I would say most attractive Eastern Europeans or Caucasians.
I would say Israeli and Latin.
Or the most attractive?
Yes.
And then least?
And then least, I would say Asians, actually.
Oh, okay.
That's actually pretty good.
What about you?
They don't love you this long time.
Most attractive?
Blacks?
Yeah, we know that.
Yeah, facts.
I don't have a least attractive.
You gotta have one.
I have a date white.
Thank you.
Come again.
You deal with him?
Sadish?
You do Sadish?
Akish?
Sure.
Curry?
Stop the cap.
Curry chicken?
Most attractive, black and hispanic, and least attractive.
He's a good mix between that.
That's my dog.
I'm too burnt, bro.
That's my dog, fresh.
Get him fresh.
And then least attractive?
White.
Damn, okay.
Now you know why she left Russia.
Self-hating.
She was rushing out of Russia.
Alright, what about you?
Most attractive?
Black, specifically Island Boys.
Yes, sir!
I would say, yeah, I've never dated a white guy, so yeah.
Or I've never been with a white guy either, so yeah.
Alright, what about you?
I would say Caucasian and Black guys are the most attractive.
And I would say the least attractive, I'd have to agree, would be Asian.
Does it matter if they're, like, oriental Asian or are we talking, like, Indian?
I say Indian.
I would say Indian, yeah.
They're not trying to think you're coming out of here.
But we can say you're pretty much black and white.
You get it?
Get him fresh!
All right, last thoughts.
Oh, we got some more.
Oh, okay.
Noem Billy, shout out to Big Mo looking like Media Mo.
It's not gay if it's not homo, sexual.
And then we got Chris.
Ladies, do you think women are the happiest, ultimately 45 years old, one mil a year, ugly, single, no kids, or 25 years old, making no money with your ideal husband who you submit to paying your bills, beautiful, and two kids?
Why?
That's a lot, man.
Okay.
Alright, we can simplify this.
Would you prefer to be pretty and broke or rich and ugly?
We'll start right here as a female.
Pretty and broke or rich and ugly as a woman?
Don't read that.
It's the same question, essentially.
Rich and unattractive.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
I like the security of the money.
Yeah, now she said it like that, yeah.
I mean, I was going for money anyways, because I mean...
You literally just said you want to give up your career, man, which is based on beauty.
You're right.
Money can buy you anything.
What about you?
Rich and ugly or beautiful and pretty, beautiful and broke?
Beautiful and broke.
Fair enough.
Rich and ugly.
Stop the cap.
Honestly.
No way.
You know, honestly, beautiful and rich, but in this question...
Beautiful and rich, yeah.
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I would go with the beautiful and the unattractive.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Beautiful.
No, the beautiful and the...
It broke?
Yeah, I will.
Okay, it broke.
Sorry.
What about you?
Yeah, we broke.
Pretty broke as well?
Okay, we knew that one.
Mal's no goes, episode 204, getting closer to 304.
Also, please ask ladies if it ever came down to it.
Would they consider an abortion?
What?
Would you have an abortion if you got pregnant by the wrong guy?
Yes or no?
Yes.
No.
I also would have unprotected sex with somebody that, like...
Yeah, yeah, but let's assume the worst, that you got pregnant accidentally by a dude.
Then yes, I would.
Abortion?
Okay.
Who would not have an abortion?
So if you got stuck with a If you got stuck with a You can't say never be put in this So if somebody forced you on the side of the road Okay Whoa It's different but it's still We're still out But we're still out here too Okay She's pursuing the PhD I'm a PhD Yeah
Somebody put hair Somebody cast that blue hair Pokemon She's adorable I had my blue hair In 2017 And you missed it?
My natural hair, yeah.
When we met you, your hair wasn't blue.
I know, but this is a wig.
I know it's a wig.
I had my hair blue in 2017.
I bleached my hair.
Yeah, but why did you make it blue?
But why did you make it blue, though?
It's what he's asking.
Because I feel like it fits my personality.
Blue?
Let's get the final thoughts here and close this thing out.
We'll start here.
How was the show for you?
It was awesome.
It was really a great show.
I think there was some common ground and some things that we had some good discussions.
I'm curious real quick.
Would you ever stop your career if you found the right guy even now?
That would take care of you?
No.
I don't...
Good question.
I have an end date anyway, so I have like a very short window of I have like a very precise business plan.
So it's like in when the menopause hits.
When the eggs dry up, baby.
What about you?
Final thoughts or disagreements or points or anything?
I mean, I loved it.
It was a great show.
I felt like everyone had different opinions, but we, like you said, came to Common Ground, really good discussions.
It actually went better than I thought it was going to go.
I thought someone was going to get Frank Castle, for sure.
But it went really good.
Alright, cool.
Wait, who do you thought was going to get Frank Castle?
Tell us the honest truth.
Don't care.
I ate a lot.
These two!
These two, but then when you started talking, I was like, oh, she about to get pissed the fuck off sooner or later and just snap.
But you did really well, so I loved it.
Oh, thank you.
You did so good.
Thank you, girl.
What about you?
Last thoughts?
On that note, I do have a last thought.
So when you said that women are born and men are made, I'm going to give you a scenario.
So in the scenario, let's say, so I'm in STEM, right?
And when I'm looking for a job in a professional industry, let's say you and I go for the same job.
How do you think they're gonna perceive us?
You'll have a way higher likelihood of getting the job over me.
No, because they're gonna look at me, they're gonna be like, she's blonde, she must be dumb, this is a man, and he probably knows what he's doing.
If you go into a male-dominated profession and you're a female, you will absolutely get the job over a more qualified male for the purpose of workforce diversity.
I might get the job for that purpose, but will I get a promotion?
I feel like I will still not be looked at the same way.
Well, how you feel versus what's real are two different things.
You might feel as though you might be looked at a different way, but the fact that you're even getting the opportunity over a man who might be more qualified than you based on nothing more than your gender speaks volumes.
And couldn't you change your hair color?
Easily.
I love my hair color.
It's my natural hair.
That's not the point.
I'm still going to be pretty and a woman.
If you perform, it doesn't matter really on gender.
And as well, I used to do tech.
I was in the tech industry.
What did you do in tech?
Troubleshooting, programming.
But it's funny because all of my superiors, most of them were women.
If you put in the work, you ask for reasons.
And here's the thing.
I'm not unaware of the fact that women absolutely deal with a hurdle where if they're attractive to a degree or if they have a certain look, they're going to be written off as bimbos at first.
However, it's on you to prove them wrong.
Don't perpetuate the stereotype.
So if you come in and you're competent, You're going to get even bigger.
You're going to get even faster accolades, and you're going to be able to move up even faster because now you meet the workplace diversity quota, and you're competent, so you're going to move up the ranks.
I mean, anytime I've ever seen a woman enter a male-dominated field, they always rise up the ranks faster than the men do every single time, whether it's law enforcement, which I saw that especially, less competent females get pushed up the ranks because of the support of workplace diversity or other jobs that are male-dominated.
Women have a leg up.
I mean, they've done studies on this too, where they look at like, if a man submitted a resume with the same exact requirements and put it under a female name, he got way more calls.
I mean, that's like a fear that I have, like going in.
No, no, no.
You're going to have way more doors open for you as a female, especially in a male-dominated field.
They're going to hire you.
We did a coding camp as well for part of that program.
And actually, one of the girls said, you know what?
Screw it.
I want to do cybersecurity.
She did cybersecurity.
She was the only girl hired there, but she's the only girl that actually applied.
And she got it right away like this.
So I'm just saying, like, you're going to have way more options than most guys.
Just being a girl.
Sometimes you feel like, but I mean...
How you feel versus what's real are two different things.
You're absolutely going to have more doors open for you as a female, which is cool.
I'm not knocking women for having female privilege, but that's one of the benefits of going to male-dominated career field.
So do you still think men or men or women are born?
Still disagree?
That's it, bitch!
Honestly, you made some good points.
So I agree with, let's say, like 75 of it.
And I also wanted to say that...
It's really 90%, but she has to...
Let's say like 78%.
Sure.
More like 87%, but okay.
But you said the woman had to be competent.
They don't have to be.
You said like in order...
They don't have to be a lot of the times.
Are you listening?
No, you said they have to be confident if they want to go up to ask for a raise.
You're about to be a PhD and you can't even pay attention.
So you didn't say that.
So you didn't say that women have to be confident in order, if they want to get in a raise, they have to be confident.
You didn't say that?
That was another thing that you said?
Oh, you mean, yeah.
Hold on.
So you said it.
Hold on.
But the context was under her being judged as a bimbo.
Because that was one of her fears.
It's like, I'm a blonde.
I'm going to come in as a woman.
They're going to think I'm incompetent.
They're going to think I'm stupid.
I'm like, no, no, you prove you're competent.
So it was a very specific context under which I phrased it.
To be competent, you have to be made, made competent.
You have to put in the work, right?
Yeah, of course.
Of course, but that's not really...
Oh, relevant?
It is relevant because it's not like I can come into a STEM space and be like, hi, I'm a woman or whatever.
And even to be a STEM, you have to have certain criteria.
My argument is that you don't have to be as competent as a man to get the position.
I disagree with that.
If a man had the same exact accolades that you did, your resumes are identical, they're going to take you over him.
What if they already filled their women quota?
Or even if he had more experience or whatever, you still have a higher likelihood of getting the job.
You keep saying what if, should, coulda, woulda.
Have you actually applied for any jobs and got any turndowns?
I've been applying for jobs.
I've gotten all the turndowns.
Maybe they're just by hiring.
No, no, no.
Okay.
How many companies?
Um, maybe 50?
Wow, I mean, I'm gonna keep applying.
I understand this is like a hard...
Do you have any experience?
Yes, I have experience.
I did an internship.
Is that it?
That's my experience.
How long was that internship?
Six months.
But I'm also, besides applying for jobs, I'm also applying for internships.
Like, I'm not expecting to just come into this space and, like, dominate it.
Like, I understand.
You still have a higher likelihood of getting hired for a job over a minute.
But even getting an internship, it's hard.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people competing.
World War II... Huh?
Oh, it was in the...
Come on, state.
You got this.
Come on, girl.
You got the swing.
It was in the...
40s.
Yeah!
You learned something!
All right.
Anything else?
Oh, what else did I learn?
As far as last thoughts, disagreements?
Oh no, I think it's interesting.
I think women bring something to the table.
I think men are great.
I think men bring something to the table.
I hate that it's always this thing where we have to be going back and forth.
Women are good for stuff, men are good for stuff.
Question.
Is what you heard about us confirmed today or do you feel different about it or the same way?
Good question.
I mean, I don't think you're misogynist.
Really?
We're too soft today, bro.
I will admit that I am a sexist, though, because I don't think men and women are equal, but reality is sexist.
But I mean, in general, because a lot of my viewpoints, I don't believe that women should...
I don't have misogynistic viewpoints because a lot of things I hear people say is taken to an extreme, but I do believe...
I guess I'm old-fashioned, we'll say.
So you're a sexist?
If that's what you want to call it.
Old-fashioned literally is being sexist.
Treating women differently based on their gender.
That is sexism.
Welcome to the club.
You're one of us, nigga.
A lot of you guys made arguments for sexism.
Like, oh, men aren't chivalrous anymore.
Men are weak.
Like, that's an argument for sexism because chivalry in itself is sexist.
Don't worry, I'm independent too.
You're treating someone different based on their gender.
That is the definition of sexism.
So I guess I am sexist.
Yeah, we boss niggas up in this bitch.
Period.
Alright, Miss Tel Aviv, last thoughts, disagreements, or points, or...
No, I just had a good time.
I enjoyed listening to everybody and their opinions.
Also to you.
Both of you, obviously.
And to, you know, also express my opinion.
So, thank you.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you.
Do you like Netanyahu?
I'm not getting into politics.
Alright, would you break the lineage for Arabic?
Yes, sir.
No, we're supposed to be sworn enemies.
I mean, would you?
No, we're not enemies.
We're distant cousins.
We're all Semites.
Alright, what about you?
You guys know I love to be here.
I think you guys are amazing.
And I changed a lot since I came here the first time.
What's the number one thing you changed?
You know.
Her hair.
My only hair.
Oh, you quit your OnlyFans?
Yeah.
Really?
Wait, really?
Really?
Do you guys remember?
I don't know.
I mean...
Wait, did you guys tell her to quit the OnlyFans?
No.
Wait, what made you want to quit your OnlyFans?
Because you said you, like, after coming on the show, that's what persuaded you, convinced you.
We never tell girls to quit OnlyFans.
We just simply tell them that, hey, if you get in some profession, it's going to limit your options with men in the future.
That's what we tell them.
Yeah, exactly.
I was being treated differently since I started the OnlyFans.
Respectfully, I can see that.
Somebody double check.
They not believe in you.
Cool.
All right, guys.
This is a good panel.
Thank you, ladies, for coming in and giving your viewpoints, even though you might not agree with everything.
But we're going to end the show here, guys.
Don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.
All the girls' Instagrams are below.
Go ahead and send them a dick pic.
I think they're all single except for one.
I think they'd enjoy it.
We'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh and Fit on Wednesday.
Peace.
Peace.
I ran so far away.
I just ran.
I ran all night and day.
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