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July 8, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
04:11:36
Nick Fuentes Dops N-BOMB On 7 Black Women & THIS Happened!
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Welcome to the Presbyterian Podcast after our edition.
We'll join Nick Fuentes and a bunch of lovely ladies.
Let's get out!
Hold on.
You see what we did here?
Let's see what you did there.
Let's see what you did there.
Let's go.
What's it doing?
How many cares, bro?
Get out.
Get out.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
I know the night is not what seems.
I must believe in something so I'll make myself believe in this night.
I will never tell a sign.
If you get for need and I will never tell a sign.
We are back.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
We're joined with a bunch of little ladies and Nick Quinta, the legend himself.
Quick announcement, guys, before we get into the show.
Number one, rumble.com slash freshfit.
The last interview we did probably would get us kicked off YouTube, so go ahead and check us out over there on Rumble if the day ever comes and we get canceled.
Or missing.
Yeah, or missing.
If Masada comes and kills all three of us, you guys will know where to find us.
And also check out Nick on cozy.tv slash Nick.
Check him out over there, guys, because he's banned off everywhere.
Hey, man.
I'm going to Barbados, bro.
Yeah.
Yo, we ain't saved after that last interview, bro.
But yeah, anyway, you guys can go check it out after we finish this one.
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Welcome back.
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Right now.
It's like Deja Vu.
Yeah, pretty much it is.
She sat next to me last time, too.
So, yeah.
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So go support him right now, motherfuckers.
And then, Chris, go ahead.
And, girls, send me a DM on RCPoxa on IG. Make sure your page is not privated and you have photos.
And if you're flying in from some other state to Miami, Florida, make sure that, you know, tell me, I don't know what we're doing three months down the line.
It might be canceled.
Who knows?
Or So I'll make sure you show up and...
What was that?
That was an assassination sound.
You went like this.
That was a terrible assassination sound.
I tried.
Okay, without further ado, though.
Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, we do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course.
Your body count.
And we're going to start right here.
Welcome back.
Hey, y'all.
Hey, my name is Glodian.
Wait, what?
Okay, cool.
Let's run that back.
Okay, so my name is Glodian.
I go by Glow.
My grandmother named my aunt Glodian because she didn't want to name her Gloria or Diane.
So she infused the names.
So that's how we came up with Glodian.
You know, black folk.
How they do.
Nick, Nick, you know.
I am I am 33.
Where are you from?
I am from Miami, Florida.
What do you do for work?
I am a creative producer and a program manager's assistant at Camilla's house.
Okay.
Oh, Camilla's, okay.
Yes.
Alright.
Camilla's house, the shelter.
No, no, no.
I'm familiar.
You guys also, you know, give people housing as well.
Correct.
Help them with their rent and everything else like that.
Yes.
I'm that person.
I'm that girl.
Yeah, I had a tenant, man, for that dude, Camilla's house, man.
Y'all are the worst.
Anyway.
I know.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yo, pay a goddamn rent to the landlords, man.
I'm like, am I at Camilla's house?
No!
Yeah, they basically help subsidize people's rent in the Miami area.
It's a government program, but it's similar, but it's a city slash state run.
But that's a whole other conversation.
And then, what's your highest education?
I have an associate's.
And what?
In medical administrative assisting.
And then what's your relationship status?
I'm sorry?
What's your, um, relationship status?
I have a boyfriend.
Cool.
How long have you been together?
Um, off and on for like eight years.
Goddamn!
Um, question.
Yes?
Nick wants to know, is he black or white?
Black.
Okay!
Okay!
Nick is actually for that!
Stay with your own!
Okay, what about you?
What's your name?
Hi, y'all!
I'm Kiki.
Chris, did you do this on purpose?
You could say hey, y'all eight times?
Yeah, yeah.
Childish, man.
Kiki, how old are you?
I'm 22.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm originally from Washington State.
What part of Washington?
Like, right on the border of Portland, Oregon and Vancouver, Washington.
Okay.
And then, do you live here in Miami now or are you just visiting?
No, I live here.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
Athlete.
So I go to school.
I don't work.
Okay, full-time college student?
Yes, sir.
Okay, what do you do?
What sport do you play?
Soccer.
Soccer?
You play soccer?
Yeah.
I mean, I got a full-rate scholarship, so does that tell you something?
- I mean, I don't know. - I mean, I don't know. - I mean, they probably, - Other than that, - I mean, we can pull up some highlights, I don't care.
- Are you, do you want D2, D3? - I mean, it's NAIA, but.
- NAIA, what's that?
- Uh, your own, like.
- Like, I don't even know how to explain it.
- Yeah.
- Is D3?
- No, it's like below D3, but it's like, it's not in the like, yeah, D1, D2, D3. - DL, division loser.
No, I'm just kidding.
That's why I'm just fucking with you.
Alright, but NAIA. Like junior college?
Is it like community college?
Or junior college?
No.
It's a university.
I already went to a juco.
She goes to school for free.
It's fine.
You're pursuing your bachelor's degree, I'm assuming?
Yeah.
What are you majoring in?
Psychology.
Okay.
Useless degree, but you ain't paying for it, so who cares?
And then, what's your relationship status?
Single.
Alright, cool.
What about you?
Hey!
I'm Stephanie Mason.
Okay.
And how old are you?
I'm 20.
Where are you from?
Texas.
What part of Texas?
Dallas, Texas.
Oh, shit.
South Dallas?
Damn, I knew it!
And then, what's your profession?
Or are you a student?
I'm a student.
I'm studying psychology.
Okay.
Pursuing your bachelor's, I'm guessing?
Yes.
Okay.
Where do you go to school?
Do you want to say?
You don't have to.
FMU. FMU? Okay.
And then, what's your relationship status?
Single.
Cool.
What about you?
Hey, y'all!
Welcome back!
Hey, y'all!
Phantom in the building.
I am 33.
Highest level of education.
I have a master's degree.
Currently doing this last school fight, song and dance.
What else?
Where are you originally from?
Oh, Indianapolis, Indiana, originally.
Okay.
And then what do you do for a profession?
I think we know, but I mean...
So, my business is Phantom Intimates.
I have a lingerie.
I sell men's and women's lingerie.
So, phantomintimates.com.
Make sure you check me out.
I'm also a radio personality.
Check me out on 104.5 The Beat if you're ever in Miami.
Thank you.
Shout out to y'all because I noticed because I do this.
So, you know.
And lastly, y'all catching me at the trap still.
All right, so she's still scripting.
All right.
And then what's your, the highest education master's, what do you have it in?
Hospitality and tourism management.
Okay.
And digging status?
Oh, thank God.
She belongs to the streets.
Okay.
What happened to the last guy?
Yeah, what happened to him?
Oh, my God.
I don't want to talk about it.
I'm so heartbroken.
I don't want to talk about it.
Like, it's really fucked up.
God damn it.
We'll probably get into it.
Wait, what was his race?
Was he black?
Yes, I won't date a white guy.
All right.
This is more entertainment than I thought it would be me just sitting in the background.
All right.
What about you?
you what's your name all right what's your name My name is Anna.
Anna, okay.
How old are you?
I'm 23.
Okay, where are you from?
Washington State.
Okay, that makes sense.
And then what do you do for work?
I'm an esthetician.
Okay.
What's your highest education level completed?
I have a bachelor's degree in sociology.
Okay.
Did you also play soccer for free?
Yes.
Okay.
Did you go to the same school as her?
No, I had gone to UAPB in Arkansas.
UAP? UAPB. UAPB. Okay.
Is that a Division I school?
Yeah.
Okay, so who's clearly the better one?
Don't do that.
All right.
And then what's your relationship status?
I'm newly single.
Oh, shit.
You're in Miami.
I'm here in Miami.
Are you visiting or do you live here?
I just moved here like two weeks ago.
I've been living here for like over a year.
Oh, okay.
Do you go to school out here?
Okay, okay, okay.
All right.
And then, cool.
And then, why the relationship?
Okay, what race was he?
He was black.
Okay.
You can't make this up, bro.
You can't make it up, right?
I'm right.
I have my theory on why this is, but we'll continue.
All right.
Fantastic.
All right.
And then what about you?
What's your name?
Hey, y'all!
So I go by Saskatchewan.
What is it?
Sauce Goddess.
Sauce Goddess.
First name Sauce, last name Goddess?
She loves Sauce alright.
What the fuck, Chris?
Chris, I'm not saying.
She loves Sauce.
Come on, man.
That's her name on IG. Alright, how old are you?
I have 33.
Wait, 33?
Okay.
Where are you from?
Miami.
Okay.
What are you new for?
So currently I am a owner of my own spa, Bay Bay F. Bay Bay F Miami.
Okay.
Period.
Period.
Okay.
So you own a spa.
And I also am a dental assistant as well.
Okay.
Cool.
When are you going to quit?
Well, if you own a spy, you don't need to be a dentist.
You got to get that money.
So, but I'm just like still, you know, working up, building my clientele.
Okay, okay.
And then you're going to leave?
Yes.
All right.
All right, good.
And then what's your highest education level completed?
High school?
Associates?
Well, esthetician school.
Okay, yeah, that counts.
That counts.
So you got like your, is it a degree or a license?
So it is a diploma and certification.
Okay, I'll put cert.
Yeah.
And you said esthetician, right?
Yes.
Do y'all work together?
Me two?
No.
Okay.
Curious, do you do her stuff?
She has falsies on, but normally I do her lash extensions.
She's been moving, so we haven't had time to do it.
Do y'all have matching tattoos?
I noticed both of you guys have tattoos on the left side.
We have one matching tattoo, but not all of them.
And then, what's your relationship status?
Single.
Why do you say it like that, man?
I don't know.
I got PTSD. But I'm also a body sculptor, just FYI. Okay.
Was he black?
She.
Oh, it was a she?
Yeah.
Okay.
Blot twist!
Was she black?
Was she black?
What was she?
She's black.
She's Jamaican and other stuff.
Okay.
Boom!
Next approval once again.
Sort of.
Well, sort of.
Sort of.
Yeah, sort of.
Wait, Jamaica's our butt, though, right?
No, no, no, but she's a girl.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Christian, Christian.
Okay, I would say it's...
What y'all call it?
I'm Christian, though.
What is it when it's forbidden?
Yeah?
We call it haram.
What y'all call it?
We just say it's sin.
You going to hail?
Oh, my God.
I'm trying to convert things.
That's okay.
We'll talk about it.
Okay.
And then what about you?
Hi, thank you for having me again.
I like to go by Klammy with a K. Okay.
And I'm from Orlando, Florida.
Okay.
Wait, how old are you?
I'm 25 years old.
25.
You're from Orlando.
What do you do for it?
I am currently in medical school, so I'm a full-time student.
Wait, medical?
Yes.
Training to be a physician, MD. Alright, and then what's your relationship status?
I am spoken for by my sweet boyfriend.
How long y'all been together?
We will be going on eight months soon.
Is he black?
No.
We talked about this last time.
Haram!
Sorry, Nick.
I don't know who Nick is.
I like to meet new people, but he is Jewish and white.
*Loud screaming*
In history, that Chris is a W. Because this is the first battle.
Literally!
Somebody was in their bed tonight!
I love you in the chat.
I really wish I had more knowledge on Google.
Oh, don't worry!
I did not tell you at all.
No, no, no.
Dude, he's the number one Zionist in the chat.
Don't worry.
He's all for Israel.
Okay, let's continue on with the show.
Where are we at here?
Oh, hold on.
Last but not least.
Oh, sorry.
Twitch.
Wait, hold on.
Who are you, brother?
Wait, sorry.
Beforehand.
Oh, yeah.
We got to get off everything.
All right.
Yeah.
Rumble on YouTube, ninjas.
We'll see how long we can last on YouTube.
Yeah.
Please tell them who you are, brother.
Yeah, bro.
Well, hi.
I'm 24.
I'm single.
What else?
What did everybody...
I'm a live streamer.
I'm a political live streamer.
I do a show.
And your body count?
Zero.
What?
No bodies.
I knew it.
No bodies.
No, I believe it.
I knew it.
She says it in a mean way, though.
I'm religious.
I'm saving myself for marriage.
Okay.
Let's go.
What religion?
Is it Christianity?
Catholic.
I'm Catholic.
You said you're Christian.
I thought you said you were Christian, though.
Well, yeah, Catholic is Christian.
Uh-oh.
What kind of Christian are you?
The kind where they like lesbians or something?
- - Wait, he said that.
- Oh my God.
- Am I being judged right now?
- Yo.
- You see, a Catholic don't judge you, baby.
- A Catholic don't judge you. - We can have a religious debate.
Go ahead, you were gonna say.
I rap too.
I'm going to make a song about you now.
Really?
On what?
SoundCloud or something?
No, no, no!
You said it.
You missed it.
You said it.
You missed it.
Listen, clearly, I'm on all platforms.
Thank you.
How about you dissing right now with some bars?
Yeah!
Let's do it.
I kind of like freestyle.
You're scared now.
Nick, she's going to make a song called Confessions to you.
There you go.
You can't spit a bar?
No, not right now.
City girl's down.
City girl's down in this case.
She spits sauce.
Alright, Chris, you're making some jokes today, man.
You're doing a good job today.
You're doing a good job today.
You're gonna be fucking up.
Okay, alright.
This is subscriber Friday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, shit, it is Friday.
Okay, but I'm going to turn it to Nick to ask the first question.
We already got 9,500 of y'all in here, so this is what we're going to do.
From this point forward, we're going to go 50 and up.
However, every single question that came in before, we will answer it, and we'll read it on screen.
And then every chat that comes in from this point forward, we're going to show on screen.
So we got y'all.
Nick, I'll turn it to you with the first question.
All right.
Well, you know, I noticed you're all black people.
I'm out of here.
I think you're all black.
First of all, Nick has never been around this many black people in his life.
I know, maybe I know.
So let's give him some grace.
He's handling himself.
I just want to say at the outset, I don't know what you guys know about me.
I love black people.
I just want you to know.
I'm not a racist.
I'm a big fan.
I love what you guys are doing.
Can you name three things that you love about the black community?
Funny.
Musical.
All basic issues.
Favorite black comedian?
I got a question next.
Oh, I don't know.
David Pryor?
Okay.
Richard?
Richard Pryor.
I get them all mixed up, though.
I get them all twisted up in my head.
Go on, so Nick, they all look the same, so don't worry, my girl.
Hey, they all look similar.
What's your favorite black historical or political figure?
Historical or political figure?
Please don't say it.
Kanye West.
Real quick, Nick, did you have a question or did you want the ladies to ask you a question?
Well, I'll ask the question.
I just wanted to put that statement out there.
You know, because we've been talking about race mixing.
Okay.
That's the first time that word has been said.
On the show before you guys got here.
Exactly.
And indirectly also, yeah.
So, yes, I thought I'd ask the panel, and this is really prompted by Myron, because, you know, I respect everybody's opinions on this, but what does the panel think about race mixing?
Y'all have black boyfriends stuff for...
The Jewish boyfriend.
Why don't we start with you?
What do you think about race mixing?
Do you think about this?
That is a fair question.
I actually don't necessarily call it race mixing.
I call it interracial dating.
I don't know the exact time frame, but I believe in the 1950s that's when interracial marriage was legalized.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I can't put a correct date to it.
But I don't think it's inherently bad.
I don't think it's inherently something we should strive for.
If it happens, it happens.
I know there are certain people who their dating preferences are anti one specific race.
I do not agree with that.
But if someone comes from a very Asian family and they're like, listen, for cultural reasons, for getting along reasons, for integration reasons, it's going to be in my best interest to date another Asian person.
I really do get that.
But if someone is like, You know, an Asian person who says, I'll date anyone besides Hispanics.
That's, you know, it's a little sticky.
I see.
Why don't we just go around the panel?
Can I say my position first?
Is that alright?
Yeah, you guys are probably curious.
So, me, here's my position, okay?
It's a little...
Okay, you're gonna be surprised about this, I think.
Me?
Yeah, so I've actually said on my show a lot, it's a little controversial in my community, but...
I'm actually attracted to women of all groups, of all races.
See, I'm 21st century.
Well, here's the controversy.
But I would never date someone from outside my race.
I agree.
But here's why.
So I'm Catholic.
You know, my body counts zero.
I want to have sex with my wife, just my wife.
And I only want to have sex to have kids.
And I want kids that are from the same group as me.
I want white kids.
So naturally, it follows.
If I want to have a wife and I want to have white kids, then I shouldn't date someone outside my race because I'm not going to marry them.
Correct.
So that's my position.
Yeah.
But we'll go around.
What do you guys think about that?
What are your thoughts on it in general?
What about you?
I was going to say, if that's the way you think Baby Blue, then keep that in your vicinity.
Because, you know...
But he has the right to not...
I agree.
Because dating outside my race makes me feel weird.
I've done it.
I've done it just to make sure that, you know...
What was his race?
A Nicaragua?
He still had color.
You feel me?
He was Hispanic.
But at the same time, he still wasn't a Black man.
You get what I'm saying?
So I agree with you.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, love y'all, but I ain't gonna date you, baby.
You get what I'm saying?
I get that.
Because I want Black babies.
So if I want Black babies and I want the Black race to continue, I'm going to, you know...
He's trying to push his racial agenda.
We're doing the same.
It was cute how his message had a racial undertone and yours didn't.
The only reason why mine didn't have a racial undertone is because I'm black and he's white and people like...
No, not necessarily because you called it interracial dating and he called it race mixing.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, I was talking about his example.
Like he is a white guy who wants to date white women to have like white cultural standards, where my example was an Asian person dating an Asian person to have Asian cultural standards.
It's the same exact thing besides white and Asian, obviously.
But coming from a black woman, I feel like especially in the society where very democratic, very libertarian people are like supposed to be, quote unquote, the correct people.
They would accept me saying it before him just because it's me.
But again, it's about the undertone and how you guys said it.
What's my undertone?
You had the exact same message, but you called it race mixing.
One at a time, ladies.
One at a time.
So they can actually hear you.
Somebody had something over here.
I just feel like it was the same message, but different verbiage.
And that's what makes it different.
Like, I'm okay.
Like, before we got on air, we were talking because somebody on my Instagram live asked me to ask him when he dated a black girl.
And he said it with a smile.
No.
And I said, okay, I don't care because I wouldn't date a white man.
That's fine.
And then he called me racist.
Well, I said that as a joke, though.
I said that laughingly in a friendly way.
Well, but here's the thing.
We are saying a different thing because You're saying culture, but I'm saying race.
Exactly.
And I think that...
But here's the thing.
I feel like if a white person talks about their race and the way that black people talk about theirs, they get called racist.
But you said you want to have black babies because you want the black race to continue.
That's why I want to have white kids, because I want the white race to continue.
Well, it's racist because of historical and because of systemic racism that runs in white...
Culture.
So, but what's racist about me wanting to have white kids?
Nothing is racist about you, particularly because you're 24 years old.
However, coming from a white, I mean, okay, not white, an Anglo background, and, you know, our country was built on the backs of Slaves and or taking people's land and or acting like it's ours, it's always going to be there.
So yeah, and the fact that white proud guys go, we're the superior race.
So you can't act like that doesn't happen either.
So just because you're sitting here going, oh, well, I'm different.
I like y'all.
I'm just not going to thank y'all.
Both people didn't mention anything about superior.
Even I did not mention anything about superior.
No, I didn't say that.
I'm just talking about culturally and historically is what I'm saying.
I'm not saying nobody.
Oh, so, like, societally now, the air is different because his ancestors might have had, like, totally bad intentions.
They did.
I don't even think it's too far removed from it.
My ancestors had bad intentions?
Well, I mean, you're a white man.
Like, I'm sorry.
Well, but you don't, but you're making assumptions.
I mean, what background am I, do you know?
Right.
You said Italian beforehand?
Yeah, so my...
I mean, the Italians supported Hitler, didn't they?
Well, not the Italians that came to America, but also I support Hitler, so it's really besides the fun thing.
But, look, so you don't really understand, okay?
We have a really good time now!
Let's go!
I understand that someone can say something like, I support Hitler, and it's like, okay, well maybe you can support one isolated thing that he did, rather than like, The tragedy that he was known for.
And it's like a tongue-in-cheek thing to say.
I mean, as someone who is dating a Jewish man, I cannot just sit here and get into an argument over that with you.
We would be here all day.
That's true.
Well, and I don't support just part of it.
I support most of it.
I'll just put that out there.
But that's besides the point.
I don't know why.
Murdering people?
Why?
Because, well, first of all, I don't think that actually happened.
That's first.
But second of all, I think...
The whole history of World War II is basically a lie, in my opinion.
It was genocide.
It's also factual.
Can you explain that?
Okay, we'd be happy to facilitate this debate.
We'll allow it to happen.
But just let Nick give his position, and then you guys can articulate your response back.
But before we do that, did you want to answer the systemic thing?
Yeah, the Hitler thing to me is diversion, but the systemic racism thing, that's really the critical thing.
See, I... I look at it kind of differently.
You say that white people came and took the land and we built it off of blacks and everything.
The thing is, though, where were blacks working or where were they slaves in America?
They were slaves in the South and they were doing agricultural work.
And so as a consequence, they didn't really...
Are we calling it work?
Or were they forced?
Were they happy to be there?
Forced labor is still labor, right?
That's forced labor.
But the point is, it's agricultural labor.
And, you know, America's not built on...
You know, cotton, necessarily.
It's built on buildings and railroads and things like that.
That the majority of African-American people actually do help facilitate and make...
But the point is, is that, you know, blacks picking cotton doesn't mean that they built America.
Moreover, all of the wealth that they created in the South was destroyed by the Civil War.
Civil War destroyed the entire South.
And by the end of it, there was almost nothing left.
They were occupied by the North for a generation.
So, you know, the notion that, like, blacks built America, whites built America...
So you're saying that, you know, black people just had to sit down and do the dirty work?
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying that they were brought here.
They were told to do the work.
And they did agricultural work.
But to say, you know, blacks built America, they were always a fraction of the population.
They were never more than 10%.
Well, what I said was that America was built on the backs of slaves, is what I said.
And then also, the other part of that is...
Shoot.
Well, going back to the systemic racism real quick, because you had said that you want black babies and everything else like that.
And then he said he wants white babies.
And then you said, well, back in the day, there's a part of systemic racism.
That's what makes it racist.
But my argument would be, if you look at someone like a Malcolm X or Martin Luther King, et cetera, they all push for, you know, black families to stay together, support black businesses.
How's that different from what he was saying?
Because they were also around during the civil rights era.
No, I didn't say him wanting to date within his race is racist.
I didn't equate that to systemic racism.
I was talking about his verbiage, the fact that he called it matrix and the fact that it's Blacks and the fact that it's like, yeah, I like y'all, but I'm cool.
That's where the systemic racism comes from.
And I'm okay with that.
I want to have a Black family.
I don't mind that.
I'm okay with that.
I would never date seriously outside of my race.
I wouldn't.
But would it be fair to say that that systemic racism can be played on both parts?
Because on the black community, they also were saying, hey, back then, same thing with the racist whites.
There were also blacks or racists back towards them.
Like, hey, we're going to keep black culture here.
Black people being racist, that was a response.
That was the response that was met with racism.
That was them standing up for themselves.
That was them regaining their lives and their cultures and their identities.
That's what they have to do.
But isn't racism racism?
Regardless of whether it's in retaliation or not?
Fair point.
I feel like this is an argument of like, what is the definition of racism?
It's general disdain or hatred towards one racial group for no reason.
Right.
Or like wanting to date someone.
Stop there.
So if it's whatever you just said, for no reason, right?
We as Black people had a reason to be racist.
We had a reason to be angry.
People literally came and took us from our families and beat us and made us stay here and work.
That is not the same.
I absolutely believe that Black people do have a reason to be angry.
However...
For moving the Black community forward, I feel as if there has to be some level of evolution where the current white people do not necessarily have to pay for the sins of their potential ancestors.
There has to be accountability before you can get to...
And white people don't want to have accountability.
They want to go, oh, those were...
But we're talking about generalizations.
We're talking about generalizations.
I don't know.
What does accountability look like, though?
Privilege.
It looks like reparations.
No way.
It looks like reparations.
It looks like owning what your ancestors did.
It looks like not trying to whitewash history.
Erase it, period.
Or erase it, right?
Teaching history as it was.
So how would you do reparations?
Would you tax all the white people and give it to all the black people?
No, I'm against that shit.
No, if we're talking about reparations, one of the first things I would do would find a way to fund education publicly that does not disadvantage low socioeconomic status households.
Because unfortunately, right now, a lot of black and Hispanic people are living in low socioeconomic status.
And when we have education that is funded by the neighborhood, you're putting people at a disadvantage.
We tried it already with the Black Panthers and what happened with them?
They became public enemy number one.
FBI's number one.
Because they were pushing a Black family.
They were pushing cultural, within our culture and our community.
Education, food programs, medical.
When Black people become too powerful, we become a threat.
I understand the sentiment.
I really do.
But I don't necessarily believe in, like, monetary.
Every Black person just gets $10,000 a month.
No, not me either.
But if we found a way to really infiltrate our youth with the power of education, I feel like that would be a very great first step.
But that's not what's happening right now.
And I feel like every political season, we all talk about who can use what bathroom.
We talk about can a woman have the right to whatever.
But we never talk about, like, public education anymore.
Well, public education is quite on the forefront right now.
Is it?
Okay, okay.
Absolutely.
What's the Supreme Court just did and what's happening in Ron DeSantis instead of Florida?
That's not K-12, though.
I want to get into the K-12 because that is what is setting the foundation for these young students.
But you live in Florida, baby.
You don't know what Ron DeSantis is doing down here?
No, it's at the college level and the graduate level.
No, I mean, like, the younger generation.
What is it called?
Race theory?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let me jump in here.
Let me throw a little wrench into the conversation.
Everybody's always talking about education and stuff, and they say, well, the reason that the blacks and Hispanics aren't performing so well is because the schools aren't funded, the schools aren't good.
There's not one reason, I don't think.
I think there is.
And the reason is that when you look at IQ tests, blacks score one full standard deviation lower than whites on average on IQ tests.
But we're not even getting the same education.
IQ doesn't have anything to do with education.
IQ is innate.
Do you think that it is like, are you talking about like a nature versus nurture argument here?
Yeah, I'm saying it's genetic.
So you believe that black people are inherently dumber?
I'm saying on average, blacks have a full standard deviation of lower IQ. So you think it has nothing to do with the way that we don't have the control of education?
And being put in stressful situations.
But here's why.
But you don't think that us being put in...
That's a wild argument.
It happens to be true, though.
Do you understand?
Do you understand what it is to live a black life?
No.
No, you don't, right?
I'm white.
Okay, right.
So, exactly.
Italian.
But I like black people.
But listen, I didn't say that has nothing to do with you liking me or disliking me, love.
When I'm redlined, when I can't go into certain communities, when my community doesn't have what your community has and I have to go to your community to get what I need, I don't even have what I need in my community, what do you think that is?
These are our responses to the conditions.
Do you understand?
Let him respond to her situation and then we can go ahead and let you guys chip in.
And then we'll probably have to go rumble sooner than I thought.
But this is amazing.
Sorry.
Go ahead, Nick.
So here's the thing.
You know, what you're talking about when you say that, you know, blacks don't have access to resources, that's of course because these neighborhoods are impoverished.
They already don't have wealth.
They already have these problems.
I would throw something else into the mix and say, let's look at something like a food desert.
You know, that's a big complaint is that they're not able to access fresh food in these neighborhoods.
Well, Walmart just left Chicago.
You know, I'm from the suburbs of Chicago.
Walmart just pulled out.
Why did Walmart pull out?
Is it because of Redlining and white racism?
Or did Walmart pull out because people kept stealing?
They pulled out because people kept stealing.
That argument is a non-sequitur though.
Why is it non-sequitur?
It's a non-sequitur because talking about food deserts and trying to equate that to why you inherently believe that Black and Hispanic people are genetically and inherently less intelligent.
It's a non-sequitur to talk about why Walmart is no longer in Chicago.
Here's the correlation.
I want to touch on that too.
Go ahead.
Here's the point.
Is that whenever there's a conversation about the, because the fundamentally the conversations about the disparity between blacks and whites, which is persistent and wealth, unemployment, income, all these things.
And really there's two explanations.
And one is circumstance, historical disadvantage, these kinds of things.
What you might call nurture, so-called.
I mean, for lack of a better word.
The other argument is that blacks and whites are different, and they're genetically different, and these behaviors that they exhibit are the result of genetics.
And so, if black people have an average IQ of 85 in America compared to whites of 100, it doesn't mean that there are no black people with an IQ over 100, obviously.
But it does mean that, on average, there are fewer of them.
And if that's the case, this has real-world implications.
There's going to be a reason why the black schools perform worse than the white schools.
And it's got nothing to do with the school, the funding, the public policy.
And it's got everything to do with their innate faculties in the beginning.
As a black woman who is in education, this is something that is very important to me.
And I mean, we can talk all day long about the nature versus nurture debate.
I do believe a lot of the struggles that the Black community is facing right now has to deal with nurture over nature.
If we had the same resources like the K-12 education and the strong family unit, I don't see why there is any genetic...
We have coded the human genome.
I feel like if there was any genetic implication as to why...
Blacks and Hispanics are performing less.
Maybe the scientists who coded the human genome would have come out with that information already, but I don't think that they have.
Well, the brain accounts for 50% of the human genome.
And when you look at, you know, black people and white people, they have all kinds of different characteristics, different skin color, different gestation period, all kinds of different things.
Gestation period?
By how many days?
I don't know the exact number of days, but if you look at it, it tracks.
Asians have, I think it's the highest, and then it's whites, Hispanics, and then blacks.
How is that following the argument that we're having here?
Here's the argument.
Okay.
So, So if we agree that there are already differences that we can see, if there's physical differences, then it would follow if the brain is 50% of the human genome.
It would be ridiculous to suggest that whites and blacks and Hispanics and Asians all have the same brains.
Intelligence isn't necessarily phenotypic, though.
100% is.
Intelligence, there's a stronger correlation that intelligence is genetic than so many other things.
It's directly, it's a heritable trait.
It's not even disputed.
So let's stop there.
Because if we're talking about how education is more genetic, meaning passed down some kind of way, And with African Americans being lower than whites, it's only because we were not given education for so long.
That's not true, though.
That is very true.
It's not.
Because when y'all got us from Africa, you got the greats.
You got the scientists.
You got the alchemists.
You got all the greats.
What y'all thought was great.
And when I say y'all, I mean your ancestors.
You feel me?
So what y'all thought was great.
Y'all scooped us up.
Y'all got the greats.
Right?
Exactly.
Right?
And so, it's genetic.
Everything you got is from us.
White come from black.
If you want to, if you just, if you don't know.
I'm just saying, y'all just like something that God created because he just, he has a sense of humor.
So, um...
That's the most hateful statement.
And it's okay.
It's okay if you feel that way.
But when you know yourself and you know your history, we can have this conversation all day.
And like I said, I agree with you.
I think interracial was the worst thing that we could have ever done.
That's insane.
We are all children of God.
That is insane.
That's an insane thing to say that we should all be separated.
What was segregation?
Like what?
Come on.
Something that was brought to us.
Brought to us.
But look how strong the community was when things weren't segregated at all.
Our innate nature is war.
Our innate nature?
Our innate nature?
I'm sorry.
Let her finish her point.
You made your statement that you think interracial was the worst thing.
She agreed.
Let her make her point why she...
Well, we know why she didn't get...
I'm sorry.
Yeah, but I want her to be able to...
Yeah, she has her guide, but why...
So you said, we're all children of God, and finish your thing, and then I'll turn it back to you.
Well, I didn't finish mine, so I want to go next.
I mean, even in the Bible, it causes us to look at one another as brother and sisters.
I don't think that the Lord would have wanted for there to be such division amongst races or to be like ridiculing or to think higher one race or lower one race in metrics of intelligence or I know you didn't say this, but worth or like deserving of kindness and love and so on and so forth.
I just can't agree with that.
I don't think that because people want it.
I mean, mind you, white people were just like mean and racist, right?
That is a given fact.
However, just because I believe that people...
within their own cultures, that's not necessarily a negative thing.
Look how strong the African-American community was when we were separate.
Look how far the Black dollar was when we were separate.
Now what we're doing is we're fighting against people like you and like Nick here, my buddy, because we want a seat at the table.
But we didn't have to do that.
I would never be in competition with a Black person anymore.
I have to tell you that whenever a black student comes to me and they want me specifically to mentor them in an education sense, I will take them under my wing.
And I do that for black and Hispanic people more than I do that for white people.
Are you sure in the favor?
Why?
Because I want to see our community strengthened, but I would never impose my viewpoints on dating saying, oh, hey, I'm going to help you with this MCAT equation.
But also, when you're successful, make sure you only date within your race.
How many of you agree with race mixing?
I know she does.
Well, y'all obviously do.
I was going to ask you guys, do you guys have white parents?
My mom is white, so there's no way I couldn't.
Mom is white, dad is black?
Yeah, I was going to say that.
That's fine, that's fine.
So you guys agree with race mixing?
Are you mixed as well?
Yes, I am Haitian, but I'm also Dominican and Venezuelan.
Okay.
You can make the argument that Dominicans are African-Americans.
Afro-American.
Or black, excuse me.
What about you?
What do you think?
I'm American, but I think...
Do you believe in racist mixing?
Like, why do you get a little black chick or a white person?
Yeah, I believe in that.
Okay, so you two think, hey, keep it in the...
I mean, it's just not...
I mean...
Okay, no, that's fine.
That's fine.
I just want to kind of get an idea.
I'm not saying that it's a negative thing, though.
I'm definitely not saying that it's a negative thing.
I just have my preference, and I believe in letting people have their preference and exercising that.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Okay, so it looks to me like all of you are for race mixing then.
Yes!
Just only two of you don't practice it.
Right.
Do what you want to do.
That's no business.
Do you date white guys?
Or guys outside of the black race?
No, you don't.
I mean, you know, I can't say yes because it's a tight thing I feel.
What about you?
Do you date outside of your race?
No.
I've dated white guys, though I will say that.
Yeah, I have two, but it's just a type thing.
Of course, definitely for money.
Do you date outside of your race?
I mean, black people.
I have in the past, but I don't anymore.
Your preference is black?
Okay.
And what about you?
Do you date outside of your race?
Yes, I do.
You do?
Okay.
So, realistically speaking, all of you have race mixing, but only two of you date outside of your race, it seems to me.
Okay.
All right.
You got the numbers here.
Yeah, well, it seems like sort of a liberal attitude towards it.
Yeah, just so you know.
A liberal attitude, like politically liberal?
No, liberal like open, more like liberal-minded.
But to get to your point, because I think it's an important distinction, you know, you said that God would want to see us as unequal in terms of IQ or worth.
But that is the distinction, because we can say that people are unequal qualitatively without saying that they're unequal before God, which is my position.
Because, and we talked about this on the earlier show, when you look at individuals, no two individuals are equal.
You know, if I stand next to Myron, he's taller than me.
If I stand next to somebody else, we're going to be unequal.
And I think groups are unequal, too.
I think that inequality is just a state of nature.
I don't think you find equality in nature.
The important thing is, though, and it's like you said, we have to love each other.
The equality we bring to the table is that everyone has a soul.
Everybody is equal before God.
And I agree with you.
People should be treated with care and kindness and that sort of thing.
But that being said, and this is why it's important to be specific.
When I look at other people, I think it's important to treat them with dignity, respect, love, that sort of thing.
I agree.
At the same time, that's totally different from saying like...
The government is racist or the government shouldn't be racist or things like this.
Here's what I mean.
The government has to take into account that people are different.
You know, so for example, like when we have this mass immigration into the United States, the people that are coming here are different from the people that are here.
They have a different ancestry, different culture, different background.
They speak a different language.
To look at those people and say, well, we've got to treat these people exactly the same in the spirit of equality.
Well, they're not equal.
They're not the same.
I don't know if I've necessarily made the argument of equality.
I don't know if I said that because I have my own views about equality.
I think that Equity is much more efficient for society, for even relationships and families.
But I think what I'm getting tripped up with and the sticking point that I'm having with your arguments is when you're saying like one specific race is inherently lower intelligence, that opens the door for so many.
On average.
But you believe it's like a genetic component that opens the door for so many people who maybe are not a part of that racial group to disrespect the racial group that you believe is genetically lower intelligence.
It's a sensitive subject.
And I believe I really do believe in the goodness of you as a person, just the way that you carry yourself and the way that you speak.
I'm assuming you're probably a guy that is very polarizing and has millions of followers and viewers.
There's probably at least a handful of people or a percentage worth of a handful of people who take what you are saying and use it in a very, very, very ugly way.
Yeah, you're right about that.
And, you know, I'm bombastic about it.
But in truth, it's not just about putting black people down.
And I talk about that a lot because I don't think that black people should be put down.
In fact, I think that a lot of their grievances are legitimate.
The problem is, though, what you find is it gets mixed up with rhetoric like what you said, where you said God made white people to laugh as a joke.
And I'm not trying to put you down for saying that, but I mean, all I'm trying to say is the same could be said really about any kind of statement.
Like we listen to grievances, historical or otherwise, that people have.
By the same token, people could take an historical grievance and say, well, we have a right to be racist against white people because it's a bad joke that God made them.
In the same way that, you know, you could take something like I said and twist it.
As far as the IQ goes, though, it's stratified.
Asians have the highest end whites, Hispanics, blacks in terms of average.
The only reason I say that is if we want to help everybody, we have to kind of meet them where they are.
And it's like, if that's the problem, then throwing more money at it's not going to fix it.
Exactly.
And I agree with that.
Okay, so, since we're on it, okay, real quick.
I want to hear from Glow, though.
What are your thoughts?
Because you didn't talk at all on your thoughts as well.
These two right here.
On what?
For example, he just said, on the scale, black people are lower IQ. What are your thoughts on that?
I don't know.
I just, like, don't agree with a lot of what he's saying.
He said some stuff earlier about how Apparently, everybody's brains are different, which I don't know how that's, like, scientifically possible that a Black person's brain is, like, different than a white person's.
I don't know.
I think he was hypothetically speaking.
No, he was saying this.
No, he's like...
Well, I mean that You know, there's this idea we have, we talk about race and we say, like, skin color doesn't matter.
I don't think that race is just skin color.
I think that what we call it is human biodiversity, meaning there's biological diversity within the human population.
So, you know, white and black and Hispanic and Asian people are distinct categories of people.
Minority.
Well, people.
Because minority is, I mean, in America, whites are going to be in the minority in a decade.
Not if you have anything to say about it.
You're right.
I'm trying to make light.
This is an intense conversation.
I'm trying to bring light.
Hold on.
Did that answer your question?
No.
She wanted to know how the brains are different based on race.
I'm just trying to see where you got all this information because that just doesn't make sense.
Nature is more.
Well, ladies, do you know what he specifically said?
Yeah.
Do you remember what he specifically said?
Yeah, he said that black people, white people, Asians, whatever.
IQ levels.
How do we have different brains?
No, no, no.
What he said is that, well, I mean, that's a component of it.
But what the real bottom line is, is that he's saying that each race has different IQ levels.
Right, but they don't have a problem with that, Myron.
They don't have a problem with that.
They have a problem with the fact that he thinks that black people's brains are different than a white person's brain.
They understand the hierarchy and I understand that too.
I understand how it's genetically different.
But to sit here and say, oh, I know a black brain is different than a white brain?
How?
Because y'all experimented on us?
Here's what I mean by that.
Go ahead, Nick.
I think I know what you mean, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Go ahead.
We have different skin colors.
That's a genetic difference.
Black people look different than white people.
Not even just their skin color.
If a black person turned white all of a sudden...
My lips will go away.
Exactly.
I mean, I could distinguish that you have...
I mean, you look black.
Like, your face looks black.
My face looks white.
I look like royalty, baby.
Let's go.
Sure.
And...
I think it's so sensitive.
Let's finish this point so that she can understand where you're talking about the brain thing.
So, the point is, is like...
We're all the same, but just in different colors.
And I'm saying that we're different in other ways, too.
We're genetically different in other ways.
Our bone structure is different.
Our faces are different.
Our skin color is different.
And then the point is to say, when we talk about IQ, people say, well, you know, how could black people or white people or Asian people have a different average IQ? Well, their brains...
Are probably genetically different, just like their skin color, just like their bones, just like other things.
And so it's to say it would be ridiculous to suggest that every person in the world would have the same average IQ. Why would that make sense?
We're talking about the brain.
This is his opinion, though.
Because the key word was probably.
There was no factual in that.
Did that answer your question or no?
No, because he's like, Our bones are different?
How?
I'm really not.
I'm not talking about IQ, I'm talking about the physical brain that we all have and we're born with.
He did mention that we're all differently made.
I understand that, but that doesn't mean our brains are different.
IQ-wise, that's shit you learn throughout life.
You know what I mean?
Not necessarily.
So you're just born with a low IQ? Is that what you're saying?
No.
He told you the answer, but I guess you're not taking it for what it is.
Real quick, thoughts on this real quick.
You didn't say anything either.
I'm smart, so...
I think what he said is very simple.
He said, Based on race, people have different features, different looks, different skin tones, health, even different muscle fibers.
African Americans, we know, have more fast-switch muscle fibers, which is why it's easier for them to build muscle mass than other races, etc., right?
Height levels, whatever.
So what he's saying is that on the physiology side, we're all different.
And a lot of the times, races have a lot of similarities.
Then he went on to say, well, we also have different IQs.
Since we have different IQs, it would make sense, and the logical conclusion would be our brains are different as well.
Because if we're different physically and a component of your brain is obviously your IQ, then we probably have different brains as well because on average, right, the races have different IQs.
We know Asians are at the top, whites are in the middle, and then blacks are on the lower end typically.
But he's saying if our IQs are lower, that by definition means that our brains are different as well.
So that's, I think, the conclusion he came to me.
He said it with so much conviction and that's the problem with people like him.
They say things that are opinionated that isn't necessarily factual and say it with so much conviction that logically it follows but there's no science that backs that up.
People like me.
What is that supposed to be?
Asians are trained differently.
They're trained to Nick, did you have anything to respond?
Did that make sense when I distilled that?
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
If the physiology is the same, that means, and IQs are different, that means, oh, well, the brains are probably different, too.
That's what he's trying to say.
To Nick's point, he did also say that before God, we are equal.
And which, that is facts.
Okay, go ahead.
So I think it's very important for people to understand, especially, and I'm not saying this in a classist way, I understand education is privilege, but if you don't have the education of knowing how to interpret research correctly, you're going to be very hindered with the way that you think about life.
We have to understand that correlation does not always equal causation.
Humans like to think very linearly.
Oh, racial groups have different certifications of standardized test scores, for example, which means this is wrong, but races must inherently genetically be different in intelligence.
That is an incorrect statement.
Correlation does not equal causation.
The reasons are oftentimes multifaceted.
Opportunity, resources, childhood, family life, home life, so on and so forth.
I have never heard any type of research that shows there's a genetic difference between the races and their intelligence.
I wouldn't even know how to physically measure, like, is it the neuronal connections?
Is it the glucose utilization in the brain that is making the IQ higher?
I don't know what that would be.
I've never read those studies.
Yeah, we don't even gotta go there because there's no way that we can even prove that as a fact sitting at this table.
That's like a losing argument right there.
No, we can't because you're not a scientist, Bill Knight.
The literature on this is not disputed at all.
I mean, if you look at...
So there's literature on this?
There is.
Because they're trying to say that there's no literature on this.
I literally just said that it's not bad.
But it's not...
Ladies, please let me speak.
It's not, I mean, you can do your own research on this, but it's not a controversial thing at all that Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics stratify along those lines, an IQ test, standardized test, SAT. That's not what we're debating right now.
Well, you did.
You said, you have no science to back up your brain.
No, I'm saying you don't have any science to back up the brain aspect of it, baby.
You're missing the point.
I agree with what you said.
I agree with this.
I know Asians, Black, I understand how that falls.
I promise I do.
Okay.
But there is no facts behind my brain being different because I'm black and yours is different because you're white.
That's all I'm saying.
Okay.
Well, you're missing the point.
The point was to say that IQ as a function of brain.
That was the point.
So you're sort of missing the point.
Can we be saying the fact that there's different tiers of IQs based on race must mean that the brains are different based on race as well.
- That's an end point y'all coming up with that. - That's not saying, that's something that you can't approve. - I don't understand.
- So y'all don't agree with that conclusion. - These are all any. - So we can agree to disagree on this topic.
- Yes, of course.
- Yes, yes. - Did anyone else have anything before?
I want to share something.
Okay, this is inspirational.
Okay, you guys, K through 12, I was like a completely deficient student.
C's, B's, like not very good at all.
Didn't believe in myself.
Got into college, did really, really, really well.
And now I attend a top 50 medical school.
So this is why I'm like very passionate about not believing that it's just completely nature because I do believe, excuse me, that it's not completely nature and that it can also be nurture because my environment changed when I got into college and now I'm falling out.
And I'll take you back off that because since I'm on a quest to go to law school, something about the LSAT is that the way it's written, it's literally written.
Racist?
No, not racist.
But it's actually inclusive because it's written to a standard that no matter socioeconomics, background, anything, if you study the correct way, you could be a bum living under a bridge and you could still score high enough because the verbiage, the types of questions, it's literally about things that you can learn.
It's not about anything else that life experience is.
None of that matters.
You guys are all familiar with the fact that, you know, hard work beats talent when talent doesn't want to work hard?
Yes.
So I understand where you're coming from that, hey, I beat the odds, etc.
But you got to also remember that being a hard worker doesn't necessarily mean that you have IQ and it goes the other way around.
Because there's a lot of people that have high IQ that are lazy as fuck and don't make it in life either.
So I've always said that there's a lot of people that are book smart that do well in school, but they're still morons.
I mean, we brought them on the show plenty of times.
Like girls that have high-level degrees and they're still idiots.
So I would say education and schooling and being a good student doesn't necessarily mean you are intelligent.
It's just your drive.
It's your drive.
You should do one time like everyone takes an IQ test and then like comes on.
That would be funny.
Just add to your point as well.
Like you said earlier, your choice of wanting to learn and become better means who you are today.
So even though we might have for example like issues of you know what schooling, environment and you know these other external issues, if you're a person that wants to do better for yourself, black, white, Asian, doesn't matter, Chinese, once again it's all on you as an individual to do better for yourself.
And I would argue that it is nurture far more than it is nature.
And I believe that Nick is arguing that it is nature far more than it is nature.
Well, and it's part of a bigger point of view, which is that I think that genetics play a much greater role than people would like to believe.
I think that so much of our behaviors are genetic.
I think that so many of our attributes are genetic.
And I think that people have a bias against that because we have this culture.
It makes us uncomfortable.
It does.
Because genetics are unchangeable and they're immutable.
So people have this idea that, but there's an answer for this.
People have this idea that if something's genetic, it's very frustrating because then I can't change it, I can't improve.
It's not true.
But what it tells us, though, well, like height.
Like, I can't make myself taller.
Right, right.
And there's a lot of things.
A bald person can't make themselves grow hair.
So the point is, is that, you know, And so the point is, is that, you know, although the reality might be that genetics matter a lot, we, I think, have a tendency to it's wishful thinking that it's not so.
Here's the thing, though.
When it comes to these attributes, the answer is like, yes, inequality is real.
It should make us uncomfortable.
It's a fact.
You know, we see it all the time.
And so many of the culture war issues are about inequality.
Like when you look at the dating stuff or the sex incel stuff, it's about inequality.
Gender stuff, it's about inequality.
Race stuff, inequality.
And the answer to inequality is that people are more than matter.
People have souls.
People are not just what their product of their labor is or their house or how tall they are.
People are created by God.
So the answer to inequality is not to ignore it And not to get offended by it or make it uncomfortable.
We have to take those things into account to govern society because we can't solve problems if we don't have the real causes.
And so I posed earlier, you know, what's the persistent fact is black and white inequality.
What's the answer?
Is it racism or circumstance or is it genetics?
People should be open-minded about the genetics because we want to solve it.
But we should love people regardless of, you know, whether that inequality is baked in or it's a result of discrimination.
So that's just my thesis.
So I want to talk about something else more fun.
Like what?
No, no, but you just had me think about something.
Because if it's genetics, right?
So why is it when the slaves came over who were kings and queens, their offsprings didn't turn, didn't transform, I guess, or bring those king and queen qualities and attributes?
I don't think they brought kings and queens over.
Because what happened is that...
Not kings and queens.
Okay, let me not mud it.
Okay, cool.
But blacks sold other blacks into slavery.
They were captured in wars.
But again, you said it was genetic.
So there weren't smart blacks that got brought over here because we wouldn't have half of the shit that we have if we didn't have the smart blacks that came over.
Well, and here's the thing.
I mean, you look at African immigrants.
They do way better than blacks in America.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
We're not talking about African immigrants, so let's not muddy the waters.
We're talking about African immigrants, right?
We're talking about slaves.
I'm not talking about African immigrants.
I'm talking about, well, here's the point I'm trying to make, though, is that the descendants of African slaves have, you know, you say American blacks have a much lower income and wealth than whites.
When you look at African immigrants like Nigerians or others, they have a higher average income than whites.
That's because the immigrants are selected.
The people that come here from Africa today as immigrants are already pre-selected.
In other words, we're not just getting a bunch of people, we're getting people that Are going to school on a visa or they're an engineer on a visa or something like that.
And so as a consequence, you know, it would be hard to explain through racism why an African can come here and do super, super well, but blacks are mired in poverty if the answer was racism.
But if the answer is genetics, it's like, well, the general population of blacks here is lower IQ than the average IQ of the immigrants that are coming here from Africa as students or workers or something else.
Doesn't that repute your claims then?
No.
Because in the USA, the black IQ is lower than the average.
But if we bring in blacks from the not USA, then their IQ is above average.
So doesn't that refute your claim that IQ is...
How?
Because, like I said, it's just an average.
So the blacks that are coming over, you know...
When I'm in Chicago, there's a lot of black Uber drivers, and I talk to them on the way to the airport.
I feel like it's a non-sequitur, though.
No, but hang on.
There's a lot of Hispanics that are Uber drivers.
A lot of the times, they're students, they're software engineers, they're very intelligent, they're very hardworking, and I know they're going to make it.
I see why average income of a Nigerian is like $80,000 in America.
And it's because there's a selection bias.
The selection bias is that the Africans that are coming over as immigrants are higher IQ.
And so the function is IQ.
The blacks that are here that have an average low IQ have a much lower income.
The blacks that are already selected is coming over.
Students, engineers have a higher IQ.
Have you ever heard a generational...
I want to add to what he said real quick.
Because I know you want to switch it.
He's correct because to get an F1 visa, you have to get accepted by some type of university coming to the United States.
So that in itself screens out a lot of people that otherwise were morons or wouldn't be able to...
Just off of the F1 visa program itself, that screens out a lot of retards.
So they're grown to become better.
Yeah, because they can't get an F1 visa to come here unless they can get accepted to a school, which meets the requirements of university, which is already going to beat a lot of Americans out.
Don't go to college.
So I was going to ask you, have you ever heard a generational curse?
So you keep talking about genetics.
Like, yeah, I inherited some bullshit from my daddy because he lazy and all that type of shit.
But that was because he became Americanized.
But in Haiti, they know their culture.
They know who they are.
They're embedded in who they are.
So yeah, you're going to get the Nigerian that is doing the things and all of the things.
I can't, I don't know how to talk.
But then you understand what I'm saying, right?
So So you're gonna get the Nigerian that do all the things.
But if you have a black American who has been stripped of everything that they knew, they name everything, and they've been given some shit, right?
You're gonna get that what you call genetic, whatever you talking about right now.
Because like she just said, you just said that black Americans Are the ones that have lower IQs.
But when a Nigerian comes from where they innately are.
Nigeria.
Nigeria.
I'm sorry.
Y'all trying to...
Y'all know what I'm saying.
Anyway.
But what I'm saying is...
What I'm saying is generational curses is real.
So that's that genetic you're talking about.
That's that bullshit that I got from my mama and my daddy.
That slavery stuff.
You get what I'm saying?
So yes, that's what you're going to get.
So that's what you're basing it out of, the black American.
But when you talk about your Haitians and you're talking about your Hondurians, because they black too.
When you're talking about your Dominicans, you get what I'm saying?
When you're talking about people that are based, their culture is rich.
Than a Black American, yes.
And that's why they come here and feel some type of way about us because we don't know who we are, my love.
So I get it.
But go ahead.
I guess like my final point, because I know we're going to switch topics soon.
My final point would be like as the person in grad school, like looking at what is the metric of the study that was being conducted?
Like was it done globally?
Was it done in the US? Was it done in a specific country?
At what time frame was it done?
What were the methods?
Were there blinding?
Were there randomization?
Were there controls?
What were the controls?
Everything.
And if I'm saying all of these words and no one is understanding what I'm saying, then I really encourage you to try and do some research on how to interpret research.
Because it's fun, but it's important to know how to interpret quality research.
A study like that would never get done, though, because of ethics, realistically speaking.
People are going to get offended and triggered, and it would never get funded.
Especially how it is.
Because here's the other thing, too.
What's the benefit?
If you do the study and it comes out negative, and you find out that, in fact, that people that are black or black Americans have lower IQ, it's going to be terrible.
So it's an L all across.
No one will fund it.
I proposed a study in one of my pathways in school where I wanted to take a look at racial profiling potentially in preschool children.
And my mentor said, well, Clammy, if you are doing this study and you find that black children do get expelled more or they are racially profiled, then it begs the question, like, Okay, are they more misbehaved?
Are they more, like, are they targeted more?
And that is something, like, the point that you bring up is something we have to be very, very careful of.
Yeah, they want to fund it.
But now, going back to what you were saying about, like, were your parents, like, first generation?
Were their parents born in the United States, or were they from...
So, yeah, my mom is from South Carolina and my dad is Haitian.
So my grandfather went through the Jim Crow era, whereas, you know, white fountains, black fountains.
He did not make it past middle school because he had to help his mother to work.
He had to work.
So my mom came here.
Everybody came here around when she was six.
So yeah, it is that South mentality.
I can only give you what I know, what I got, because this is what I know and this is what I got.
I think that's a cop-out because the reality is you're worse off immigrating from a foreign country, not knowing the language, coming over here and trying to make a way than someone that was born and raised here with all the opportunities.
You know, people might say, I'm a product of government cheese and Section 8, whatever.
You're still better off than someone coming from Nigeria, Haiti, whatever.
The reality is that it's not necessarily that a lot of black Americans are unsuccessful because they're black.
It's because they're just fucking lazy.
Whereas you take an immigrant from Africa, they come over here and they figure out a way to make money, not even knowing the language, not knowing the culture, not knowing anything, and they figure it out.
Fair point.
And I think the reason why is because they don't have the opportunities in their country.
They come over here, they actually appreciate it, they thrive in it, and then they make something of themselves versus someone that was born here, they're entitled to it, they think they deserve it, and then they complain and cry about why they're not where they want to be, and they blame it on the white man when in reality they're just lazy.
I agree with some of that, but I don't agree with all of that because we could go back to the system.
It systematically worked.
It systematically worked.
They dropped things in.
Come on, man.
Black people have been trying to be...
They bombed a whole black market.
Come on, y'all.
Let's not act like we didn't ever ever...
Who has more opportunity?
Someone coming here from a poor third world country in Africa or someone that's been systematically impressed in the United States?
Systematically...
Who has more opportunity?
Well, obviously the one that's here.
The American dream.
Yeah, let's talk about it.
So explain to me how someone that's born here, raised here, has the language, has a U.S. citizenship, which people die to come here and get all the time.
Explain to me why they're a failure when someone comes here, doesn't know anything, comes here on a visa, makes their way up, gets a visa to stay here, from getting a job and being productive, and then they earn their ability to get a U.S. citizen, and they make it further than the person that was born here that had inherent I feel you, but what happened?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yes, they were systematically oppressed.
Cool, I get that.
But third world poverty is always going to be way worse than American poverty and being oppressed.
Okay, so what happens when a Cuban and a Haitian come?
Because I feel what you're saying.
I get it all.
But at the same time, it's different when you could come here and you could just get off a ship and you could get more than me.
And I work.
I'm an American and I work hard.
They get a check.
They get food stamps.
They get everything.
Come on.
Everything.
And then I'm working in a system where I see it all the time.
It ain't a lot of black people coming in where I'm at, acting like they entitled.
Are you talking about the Cuban wet foot, dry foot policy?
Yes.
Okay.
You know what?
I was trying to get there.
Go ahead.
Take it off.
You triggered my trap card.
Take it off.
Okay.
You're born and raised here.
You can speak the language.
You have free education, right?
All the way up until college.
And you have an American citizenship.
Or, you come here from Cuba, don't speak the language, don't have any status, your ability to travel is limited, you don't have any documents to be able to go ahead and get a driver's license or get a job or anything else like that.
And you still get everything, bro.
No, no, hold on.
And you get a couple, let's say a couple thousand dollars, right, through the wet foot, dry foot situation.
Who's better off, realistically speaking?
The person that's coming here off the boat, bro.
No, so...
So, hold on, hold on.
I just, real quick, so...
Am I wrong?
So basically for me, right?
I'm from Barbados.
Okay.
I came here seven years ago, right?
Obviously speaking, I'm not from here and I didn't even have a job, but what I saw was opportunity.
So my mindset is, all right, I'm from a small island, not as successful, not as wealthy, but come here for opportunity.
But at the same time, I saw my peers that were over here Been here for years.
They were born in America.
They were literally working the same job as me when I got a job.
Just lazy, doing the same stuff.
You know what?
I'll be here for 40 years.
I'm happy.
And I was like, hold on.
What's the difference between that person and me?
It's the mentality.
So the environment, I agree with you, does breed comfort And I want to say laziness.
However, as an individual, if I want to do better for myself and my family, it's up to me to make that choice.
So ultimately, I'm saying here, it's up to that individual to make a choice.
Now, the environment does play a part in it, but once again, it's up to that person.
Okay, my problem with what you and Myron are doing right now, y'all are taking a select few of people and generalizing it.
Because there are not that many immigrants coming over here and just being fucking fantastic and amazing.
It's not.
It is a select amount of people.
And at the end of the day, Mariana, come sit back down so he can chime in on this.
Because at the end of the day, it is still harder to work Within a system that is designed against you.
Hold on, hold on.
Once again, it is hard.
I admit that.
But what is it?
It's the mentality.
So for example...
You're right, but I'm saying y'all sitting here taking these couple of encounters and situations and acting like, look at all these immigrants coming over here and being great and the rich and American-born blacks are just fucking lazy.
That's not it.
So I do agree, okay, that...
My logic is, I do agree that there are people that come over here and they don't have a drive.
But I also know for a fact that there's a lot of people who are born here and raised here and don't have nothing going on, don't care to have anything going on.
They prefer to live off of the government benefits.
Now, do I feel like people who come from out of the country who are immigrants...
Bring the mic closer to you so they can actually hear you.
Do I feel like, you know, people who come from other countries who are considered immigrants, they feel like, yes, okay, I have something to prove.
Let me come over here and let me...
I just don't feel like we can rationalize on saying, hey, everyone in the U.S. is just...
Lazy?
Black Americans.
No, I don't want to say that we have it made, but I feel like we have a better opportunity than the people who are immigrants.
No question.
I agree.
I do also feel like, to your point, when you were saying the whole Haitian and Cuban thing, I know Haitians that come here and I know Cubans who come here and they would just go straight to doing Uber because it's easier for them.
No, but to her point...
I also know there's Cubans and Haitians or other races, whatever it is, or nationalities for that matter, that would come here and they make a way.
Right, but her point about the Cuban-Haitian thing was with the wet food drive policy, if a Cuban literally got, if they both made it and they stepped one foot on the sand, they get to stay.
Haitians do that same exact journey.
So no, we can't do that either.
And what you missed, what I said was, I don't like how y'all are sitting here trying to overly generalize a select population of people saying that immigrants who do come over and be successful, y'all making it seem like that is the norm, because it's not.
The reason we brought the immigration- Yeah, I don't know why we talk about immigrants anyway.
Hold on, hold on.
What I'm saying is that immigrants that come here, right, that it shouldn't be.
A lot of immigrants come here and are successful, but what I'm saying is that they have the odds stacked against them, and a lot of times they do better than people that were born here, so why is that?
Because people that are here are just lazy.
No, I don't think so.
I think culturally, our mindsets are different because I can see a family, a Mexican family come, everybody stack in one house, and then somebody buy the next house, and then somebody buy the next...
Because that is the mentality of the culture.
They stick together.
I feel like as a people, black people, we always going neck to neck against each other, which is why we cannot ever come to an agreement or unite.
Let's just keep it a thousand.
I don't have to disagree.
I can't accept that.
Why would I get up every morning and go to work?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I can say this as a landlord.
This is a fact, statistically speaking.
The most evicted race of people are who?
Blacks.
Specifically, African-American women.
So my thing is this.
If you don't even want to pay the fucking rent, that's a serious problem.
Immigrants, on the other hand, come here, can't speak the language, don't have citizenship, can't even properly get a house or get the thing, but they always pay rent on time.
Explain that to me.
You have all opportunities.
You don't have the language.
You have the citizenship.
You have something that people come here to die for, yet you go ahead, don't get an education, don't get a job, can't maintain a roof over your head.
And what percentage of those people do that?
The thing is this.
A lot.
The black community is so coddled that we can't even criticize them.
The reality is this.
I'm a black guy too.
Y'all are just fucking lazy.
I have to speak up about what Myron is saying because as a black woman, I feel like there is humility and power in recognizing that we have problems in the black community.
I agree.
And these obstacles need to be overcame.
The only way to overcome them is to wildly recognize that they exist.
I was raised in poverty my whole life.
Literally dirt road poverty.
There was a time in my childhood Where my damn apartment was on a dirt road and I had to share it with my mom and my sister.
We only had two beds and three people.
One bedroom apartment.
And now, why am I... What?
Don't worry about Chris.
We're still on YouTube.
I live alone.
Tell Chris, man.
I live alone.
But to get back to my point, now I am where I am.
I understand most people will not, most black people who came from my situation will not be where I am.
Not because I'm speaking poorly about them, but because unfortunately, the tenacity that I have is not very common in a black community.
And that pains me.
That absolutely, like, hurts my soul.
And I feel like tenacity can be taught.
I feel like work ethic can be taught.
She's so nice about it, tenacity.
It's so cute, right?
It's so cute.
She doesn't want to say they're fucking lazy.
My thing is this.
They don't have the drive that you do.
That's fine.
It's the give up mentality.
Like, my option is not give up, ever.
I cannot.
Okay.
And some people let that be an option for themselves.
Go ahead.
Again, it's mindset, man.
It's my perspective.
That means something the right way.
And I say that with Jeff, I'm never trying to argue or anything.
I don't think so.
Let's change gears here.
We've got a lot of chats.
It's Friday, we've got the chats.
Nick, did you have anything before we switch over to the chats?
No.
I think we exhausted this one.
Okay, so Venom says, question for the ladies.
Is there a guy you dated in the past you still think about till this day and what do you want to get back with the opportunity to present yourself?
So is there a guy that is still on your mind?
No.
I only got one that I can literally say I blew.
Okay, let's start here.
Is there a guy that you did in the past that's still on your mind?
No, the man that I'm with now is so amazing.
That's a very good answer.
What about you?
Guy in the past?
Maybe one.
Would you give out with him if the opportunity presented itself?
Possibly, yeah.
Okay, for you?
I know there's a yes for that.
I don't know, like, technically my ex is in the past, but...
Can't get over him?
It's not that I can't get over him.
He was black?
Is that the game?
BBC game?
Of course.
Was it Jamal?
Was that his name?
Was it Jamal?
No.
Yeah.
For you?
I blew it once.
Twice.
You blew him one time?
No, I said I blew it once.
Twice.
Yeah.
I blew him a lot of times though.
Was your guy black too?
Yes.
Of course, she's from Dallas.
She's from South Dallas.
South Dallas.
For you?
Yes.
Was he black as well?
Yeah.
Definitely.
And for you?
No, there's no guy.
I'm with the guy that I want to be with.
Stop the cap.
I love it.
I love it.
I'm going to say that.
You're 33.
Can I ask?
Oh, go ahead.
No, I forgot the chance.
Thank you.
I'm 33.
Tom Jones says, that's your opinion.
Can I have two times?
Ladies, what are the characteristics of a good father in your opinion?
Besides him, just being there or active?
Wait, how many of y'all have dads that were active in your life?
One?
Okay.
Kiki Palmer was recently at an Usher concert dressed provocatively and flirting with Usher.
Question for the ladies.
Do you think it's okay for women to do what they want while they're in a relationship but not married?
No, no, no.
And I don't think that it's okay that everybody walks around naked either.
So are all of you saying no?
Out of respect for your man, you shouldn't do it.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you think it's appropriate for you to go to the nightclub when you have a man?
Yeah.
Hold on, hold on.
Raise your hands if you think it's okay to go to the nightclub when you have a man.
But isn't it funny?
There's so many ushers in these nightclubs that want you.
So you're just saying the opposite from what you said earlier.
Because in that environment, who's going to come talk to you?
Those ushers.
But not everyone.
But ideally, in that environment, would your man truly be happy?
Would you be in there?
Be honest.
Because he's scared to lose your ass.
That's what it is.
If he's secure, then I feel like...
We agree with you.
If he's secure, he would tell you.
No, not tell you, but like...
Okay, so it would be like if a girl's out at the nightclub doing like single shit, like talking to all these boys, you know, doing whatever she wants, acting like she's single, that's different.
But if she's like just going out to the club with her girls, drinking, you know, having fun, but like, Wouldn't it be fair to say that is single girl shit too?
I guess, yeah.
But at the same time, you can still have a man and act like you're in a relationship and not be on that single shit.
You're loyal to your man, you're loyal to your man.
Why isn't the club a single girl's place in general?
Not really though.
No, because there's couples that go out.
You said something about secure.
What were you saying about that?
You said if your man's secure?
Is that what you're trying to say?
Okay, secure with himself, but also you guys are on the same exact page.
I don't want anybody else.
I don't want anybody else.
I can go to the club and have the time of my life, but not flirt with anybody, not talk to a man or something.
And I still had a really good time.
And I come back home to my man.
Let me ask you a question.
Okay.
How about if your man went to the club and on top of that, you knew that there were going to be women that are better looking than you there.
They have more money than you there.
They're inviting him to sections.
They're giving him opportunities.
Is he going to these sections?
Hold on.
He's getting offered all types of things.
And there's a bunch of females there that are better than you in every single way.
Better than you in every way.
Better looking than you.
Better talking than you.
Have more money than you.
We're giving him offers.
Want to fly him out.
All this shit.
And he gets free alcohol.
Would you feel as comfortable with your man being there?
And they would fuck him right then and there.
Would you be okay with that?
I would say if my man wants them, then he can go have them.
Right.
No, no, no, no, no.
But would you realistically be okay with you sitting your ass at home and him going there?
I'm secure with myself.
So if my man is being loyal to me and I know he's being loyal to me, then I'm going to be at home like waiting for him to come home.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Given the factors I just gave you with the scenario that I just gave you, would you realistically be okay?
It's easy for you to say that now.
I would have that thought in the back of my head, obviously.
Thank you.
How can you expect a man to be okay with you going to the club?
Hmm.
Well, I mean, I feel like that's just like...
Trust, huh?
You want to know why?
You go ahead and say this, no offense with all due respect, this bullshit female double standard that you're trying to say right now.
The reason why women say that is because, you know, deep down, your man, when he goes to the club, he's not going to have nearly as many options when you go to the club.
So you actually hold the leverage.
But if you knew that your man was going to get the same amount of attention, the same amount of girls hitting him up, girls that are better looking than you, that will fly him out, give him money, give him alcohol, and fuck him that night, you would not be okay with it.
A man will fuck a girl that doesn't even look better than his...
Whatever.
What men are you dating?
You're missing the point.
There's better women at the club and he can go there and they want to talk to him and want to give him attention.
you would not be okay with that. - There's always going to be better when they're better looking. - I don't even want my man to go outside when I got a man.
- It doesn't matter where you are.
- If we are going together, we ain't going.
- It doesn't matter where you are.
- Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies.
If you actually take what I said and you put yourself in that position and your man has that opportunity to go to the club, none of y'all would be okay with him going.
But for some odd reason, you tell us to be secure.
No, I know that.
But I'm saying most girls will sit there and say, no, just be secure in yourself.
It's okay, blah, blah, blah.
But if the roles were reversed and men had the same amount of opportunity in the nightclub that women did, None of y'all would be okay with it.
It's the biggest fucking lie.
It's true.
The reason why women say that dumb shit of, I should be able to go to the club and you go to the club too is because women know deep, deep down that a guy doesn't have a fraction of the chance that a woman has when she goes to the club.
An average looking bitch can go in the club and go, yeah, make some weird ass noises.
Who's going to hit on her?
I go in the club and go, ah!
I'm gonna go to fucking jail.
Like, it's not happening.
It's not happening.
I agree.
I agree.
I think that, you know, women shouldn't go out if they're already anchored, you know, unless it's with the man.
So, I agree.
Stay out of the club.
Nothing good happens in the club.
You know what you're looking for.
Okay.
Yep.
We're supposed to sit at home and do nothing.
- Well, there's other things to do.
- Yeah, work on some recipes or something, I don't know.
- Okay, first of all, work on some recipes.
- Work on some of those generation food.
- He's a 21st century woman.
- They say recipes.
- Take it from scratch.
- I don't think it's nothing wrong.
Listen, I don't think it's about be secure and who you are.
I think it just depends on the person.
I really don't think about I can have all that shit in my head, but at the same time, like, if that's what you want to do, bro, do that.
Because when you've been cheating on, when you've been going through so much stuff, like, all that, if that's what you want to do, do that.
I hit a violin, but at the same time, it's true, though.
Like, if a person gonna do what they want to do, regardless, like, you don't have control over another individual.
Are you in an open relationship?
Am I in an open relationship?
No, ma'am.
I thought you said, I thought you meant, like, Whatever you're going through, go ahead and do it.
Like, you would still stay with them.
No, but she's been off for eight years, so she is open.
No.
To guys.
Yeah, if you leave you off, if I'm off, I'm open.
Yeah, I told you, right?
I ain't open.
Okay, realistically speaking, like, so do you guys still think it's appropriate to go to the club, given if the roles were reversed?
Yes.
In the scenario I described?
Yes.
Go to the club, babe.
If that's what you want to do, go with your friends.
Do what you want to do.
You're with me.
They actually want you to be able to do what you want.
You're with me, but you're with me.
Like, we're together.
So why do I have a show?
It's very well documented.
Temptation is very well documented.
And when you are in a relationship, You are called in that relationship to not put yourself in positions where temptation could take you over.
When you have no self-control.
Only when you have no self-control.
I don't go to the club.
It's just not my thing.
It makes me anxious.
But I do.
I used to like to go to the bar and have my little book and drink a little Cosmo.
Because I wanted men to approach me.
Wait, Cosmo?
Yes.
Okay.
A Cosmo's good.
When you were single.
Yes, when I was single.
And now that I'm not single anymore, I don't even think about it twice to go to the bar by myself and read a book because I know men are going to approach me.
So that's my single behavior that I completely hung up my heels and now I'm in a relationship and on Friday and Saturday night, he takes me out.
We're going to the mango festival tomorrow This is the thing that's so frustrating because I love women so much and I love men and I think that like totally we could have great relationships A lot of women, if they just humble themselves before the tenets of a relationship, they would have something so beautiful and so just like...
Yeah, but you gotta realize, you're so cute.
She's so cute because you can just tell that she came from a two-parent family home.
I love it so much.
But you are completely right and completely valid.
Let me say, I do not look like or act like what I've been through.
I actually, I lost my father when I was seven.
And then, shout out to my amazing, amazing stepdad.
Like, oh my gosh, my mom did such a good job picking my stepfather.
That man stepped in beautifully.
But I have the privilege of coming from the two girls.
But that's why you know to humble yourself.
That's why you have the mannerisms.
That's why you know how to act when you're in a relationship.
Most of us Black women will raise up for survival and by single Black moms.
What does everyone going to the club when you have a boyfriend at home have to do with survival?
Well, one, because again, my statement was she was raised with different values because she's seen her mom and them do certain stuff.
And so if you're growing up and yeah, my mama got a boyfriend and she goes to the club, that teaches you that it's okay to go to the club when you have a boyfriend.
I kind of disagree with that as well.
I just feel like it's all perspective.
If I'm a humble person and I know I respect myself and my...
And I know I respect myself and I respect my relationship.
I'm not going to go to a nightclub with the intent to...
Be a cheater.
Right, but it's not about him, baby.
Exactly.
I agree.
But what I'm saying is, I don't think it has anything to do with how you were raised 100%.
I don't feel like it has anything to do with whether you grew up in a two-parent home or a single home.
I feel like it's just you.
You have a different set of values when you grow up with two parents that are happy.
Yes, that is true.
However, I just feel like, again, perspectives.
Because I can...
Grow up in a home that probably wasn't a two-parent home, right?
Which I did off and on.
However, I just feel like if you are a person who is self-aware, you don't necessarily go out with the intent to be this...
I got a question for you, because you like to use this word, intent.
So, every single time you had sex, you intended on having sex or sometimes it's like, damn, that shit just happened.
Well, no, but we're not talking about sex though.
I'm talking about your use, overly use of the word intent.
We're not talking about sex though.
Because you don't have to go somewhere with intending on doing X, Y, and Z, but sometimes X, Y, and Z just happens.
Let me just say this.
This has been really, really interesting and eye-opening.
Let me ask you ladies a question.
Let's say we're dating, right?
And I'm a bum.
I'm gonna smell that good, and I'm not in shape.
Right?
And would you, you know, would you take me seriously?
Would you?
Yes or no?
No.
You're a bum?
I'm a bum.
I don't smell too well, and I don't go to the gym.
Would you take me seriously?
No.
Come up to you?
No?
No.
It would end up not smelling good.
I'm sorry.
It doesn't matter if you don't, you know.
Fair enough.
No?
Okay.
No.
It would never be an option.
All right.
What about you?
No?
Okay.
What about you?
I say no.
No?
Alright, what about you?
Can you repeat your question?
If I come up and I try to hit on you, try to date you or whatever, and I don't smell that good, I'm not in shape and I'm broke, would you, what would you say?
No.
Okay, what about you?
No exclamation point.
Okay, now, let's have some fun with it.
But I tell you, but hold on, wait!
My mom, she didn't teach me how to shower, man.
I came from a single mom household.
I'm trying to make money, bro.
Come on, man.
Give me a chance.
You gotta understand, bro.
I just have a single mom.
What are you gonna say?
no oh isn't it interesting how women don't come up look at my background do they stop stop stop you just said no I didn't even say no this is the difference between men and women Women are not forced to take accountability for being fuck-ups.
Men are though.
If I come up to you and I'm a loser, I can't sit there and say, But my mom, she didn't teach me how to do it!
Single mother household!
But you're over here trying to literally validate going to the club and being sluts because you came from a single mother household.
Fuck that shit!
Y'all would never accept me for being a loser.
I'm not going to accept you for being a whore.
And you know what's crazy?
You guys know that it's wrong, but you decide, you know what?
I'm a boss, babe.
I'm independent.
Fuck this nigga.
I still want to go to the club.
You know it's wrong.
There's only two of us that said that we wouldn't do it.
And in my defense, y'all know I didn't come from a two-parent household.
My behaviors and things like that.
Fuck you, Chris.
My behaviors and things like that come from time and experience and growth.
Like, so...
Can we admit...
So I'm not sitting here blaming like...
It's choice.
It's complete choice.
That's all it is.
If the man is worth anything, you want to keep him, ultimately, he wants you to be what?
I mean, but obviously they don't value they mean like they should.
I just find it funny that women expect us to care about why they're the way they are, but y'all would never go fuck why we are the way we are now.
I mean, when I say women cannot take accountability, it's fantastic.
Nick, you had anything on this?
Y'all really can't.
I agree.
I agree.
Double standard.
When it comes to the women.
What was that?
I said it ended up to smell bad.
I didn't say anything about you being broke.
I was just saying if you smell bad.
That's what I said, though.
That's literally what I said.
I get that, but the point is, is that you don't give a fuck why I smell bad.
You just care that I smell bad and I'm disqualified.
That's not true.
That's it.
That's not true.
That's a grown ass man not showering.
Okay, grown ass woman in a relationship going to the club.
That's two different things.
If we have a conversation and you say, I want you to go to the club for X, Y, and Z, and you lay down Y and it's valid, okay, I won't go.
Why do I got to explain myself when you want to go fuck if I explain myself for being a loser?
What you mean?
I have to know who I'm dealing with, so if I know your background, I have to have some type of understanding.
Yeah, period.
I have to have some type of understanding to explain everything.
A man does not want to explain everything.
And neither do I, but I do because I'm in a relationship.
But see, the fact is, right, you're right.
Most women don't know how they should act.
However, you know what's right and wrong.
So ultimately, you know what to do.
But...
As a leader, if he tells you what to do then and you want to be with him, you're going to do it.
This is why feminism is bad.
It's crazy.
I ain't no feminist.
You're literally accepting a feminist doctrine right now by trying to sit there and say, a man needs to explain to you why you shouldn't go to the club.
That's feminist mindset.
I'm saying, okay, I'm saying, okay.
If I say, yo, bae, I want to go out.
And he'd be like, nah, gee, that's not what we do.
That's not how we're doing this because I'm bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
All right, boom.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
All right.
Cool.
I'm not going to go again because if I want to be with this man, if I really want this relationship, I'm not going to go.
Stop the show.
You said stop the show.
We're at the club, right?
Some dude grabs your ass.
And we're in a relationship.
We've been together for 10 years.
No.
I look at you.
I look at him.
And he runs away.
He doesn't do shit.
Sorry, I don't do anything.
What are you doing?
Wait a minute.
I'm with my guy, and the guy touches me.
And he don't do nothing about the guy touching me.
Yes, and then I, as a matter of fact, on top of that, I say, I look at you and I say, what do you want me to do here?
I would have already checked that situation in the first place.
That's number one.
What would you do?
My chest is hot.
I guess we leaving because you don't fight.
She said, I guess we leaving.
No.
Because we ain't fight.
Because you ain't no fight.
You're fighting.
All right, hold on.
I'll stop the show.
So it's because I didn't do my masculine duty That was a problem.
I had to even ask you, right?
That's a problem.
So why the fuck should I tell you to be a lady and stay at home?
Damn!
This is what I'm trying to say.
Like, yo, this is what's crazy to me about women.
Like, you don't expect us, right?
I'm not a lady because I want to go out with...
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, you expect me to be a traditional man and put my life on a line to protect your dumb ass that doesn't even want to listen to me at the club, right?
But on the other hand, my authority, right?
You want me to have this responsibility over you.
But without the authority, you should be able to do whatever you want, but I gotta be able to put my fucking life on the line to protect you.
So in other words, I must be a traditional man at all times, but you can pick and choose when you want to be a lady.
You want to go to the club here?
Go ahead.
You don't have to be a lady in this instant, but I always have to be a traditional man.
Tell me why that's a good deal for me.
It's not.
It's unfair.
So why would I commit to a girl like you when I could just get a girl that I don't have to tell you can't go to the club?
I'm just going to get a girl that does her fucking job, just like me, always doing my job.
She doesn't ask me to do my job, be a man, pay the bills, take care of me, protect me.
Why should I have to tell her, be a lady, stay in the house?
It's not a good deal for me.
Fair point.
That's why we don't commit to you girls that want to go to the club and say, oh, I'm single.
Act like you're single when you have a man at home.
We just don't take y'all serious.
But what about...
One question.
I hate going to the club.
Did your man tell you, listen, sit down.
Nope.
Let me explain to you.
I acted right.
But why?
Because you saw the value in him.
Because I was scared to lose him.
This man is everything.
Let me not get like...
You didn't get like that!
But you saw the value in your man, so you know what?
I don't want to fuck this up.
At all.
So ultimately, you know what you need to do.
But you don't do it because...
Maybe you don't respect the guy that you're with if you're willing to go in a situation.
And maybe you don't even realize that you don't respect him as much as you think you do.
All these women talk about, I want a man who takes the lead, who opens my door, he pays for the date, we get an ice cream cone, he plans the vacation, everything.
I have that, and I know that if you ladies were in that You would fall in line so quick.
And I know it.
I'm not saying that I don't know.
I'm really sorry.
To be fair though, most men are not going to be that leader that you need.
But when you do find that man, you still go to the club, it's your fault.
You fucked it up.
Correct.
I mean, if you get cheated on, that's not your fault.
I know it's not.
I'm just saying, I was at home.
I was at home.
And I got cheated on.
So like...
She was doing what she needed to be doing.
I'm so sorry.
I'm really sorry.
So what y'all got to say about that?
If you're behaving or not, they're going to do what they want to do at the end of the day.
Like, if I go to the club, I'm going to be totally, like, I'm on my own.
Like, nobody's talking to me, nothing.
I have a question.
Did your guy have money?
No, he had money.
He had money.
Okay, so did he take care of you?
Of course.
I'm not going to stay with someone who cheated on me.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
With all due respect, then you're dumb for leaving a guy that was taking care of me.
No, no, no.
Because of money.
I'm not in the relationship because of money.
It's like we live in this for the rest of our lives type shit.
Okay, I get that.
We can have the fairy tale and all that shit.
But the reality is, what percentage of men do you think can actually take care of a woman where she doesn't have to work and pay the majority of the bills and put her up in a house?
No, I was working on the side, but I wasn't...
You paid a majority of the bills, correct?
And you worked electively?
I, yes.
In other words, you don't have to work.
Okay, so my point is this.
What percentage of men do you think actually can take care of you where they're paying a majority of the bills, you're working from an elective standpoint, not a mandatory standpoint, very important, and have an abundance of income?
I have standards and I have self-respect and I'm not going to stay with someone who cheated on me.
That's not the question.
No matter how much money he has.
Okay, that's cool.
But that's not the question.
What percentage of men actually do you think...
I don't know.
They don't.
So here's the difference.
There's a minority of men that can actually do that.
However...
There's a majority of women that are beautiful, that may be younger than you, better looking than you, whatever it may be.
If you secured that guy and he goes fucks another bitch, it ain't that big of a deal because that's your problem when you deal with a successful guy.
That's a successful guy problem a lot of times.
They're gonna fuck other bitches.
It's not my problem anymore, first of all.
Okay.
Oh my god!
Yeah, go ahead, bro.
You know what's funny about this?
You leave him, right?
Yeah.
You still want a man, right?
Not right now.
But eventually, right?
Eventually, yeah.
So what's gonna happen next?
I don't know.
Again.
It's going to happen again.
I hope not.
If you date the same type of caliber of man.
I'm going to choose a better man, first of all.
Oh, a better man.
What's a better man?
A better man.
No, no, no.
What's a better man to you?
Someone that's not going to treat me the same.
With money, right?
No.
It's not about the money.
It's not about the money.
Go ahead, Chris.
What does a better man want from a girl?
A girl who's younger or a girl who's older and jaded?
I hope a man would want some loyalty from a woman.
Not necessarily being younger or older.
The point is, you find a man that's taking care of you, that actually loves you, appreciates you, but ultimately, you say, you know what?
Damn, you cheated.
I fucked this nigga.
But at the same time, you go to the next man, People can do the same thing.
Does he love me if he cheated, though?
Yes!
Still love you.
Yep.
Smash a bitch on the side.
You know what?
And come back to you.
Nothing happened.
And you're young, 24.
I mean, you're hot-ish in Miami standards.
You know what I'm saying?
Like...
Like, God damn!
Hey, hey!
Throw in your chips right now!
I'm saying right now, just throw in your chips.
We're just saying where the territory comes things.
And it does include sometimes cheating.
Is it fair on some level?
My life isn't fair.
The point is that like...
I got a question.
Me personally, as a woman, it's something I'm not finna stand for.
No, that's fine.
But I got a question.
And I'm not finna, like, let somebody do me like that.
Especially when I'm sitting here on the side doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
You know what I mean?
Okay, I got a question though.
You said you're going to pick a better man next time, right?
So the only thing that made your man not a better man is the fact that he cheated, right?
No, there is other things in the relationship.
There's other issues in the relationship.
Cheating was just the cherry on top.
There's other things in the relationship.
If he didn't do those things other than cheating, would he stay?
Be honest.
No, because he didn't want to change.
To what though?
Wait, change the cheating or?
No, just the issues in the relationship.
How he treated her.
If it was ultimately perfect, other than cheating, would you?
No, she didn't say that.
She said they had a whole bunch of other issues.
Oh, okay.
Take those away.
He was working on those issues, but then he cheated.
Take those away.
Okay.
He just cheated.
Would you stay?
Oh, I got what you said now.
For example, there's no issues.
He just cheated one time.
You know what, babe?
I was out.
Things happen.
No, because it disgusts me.
It's different.
It makes me sick.
Legit sick.
I agree with her, actually.
Because I support faithfulness.
I think that's a virtue.
That being said, You know, marital infidelity is one thing.
If you're married and somebody cheats, I don't believe in dissolving marriage.
I don't believe in divorce.
So you have to work that out.
But I think if you're not married, then yeah, you should expect faithfulness.
And I think that, you know, but people have values.
Some people, you know, the value for them is the money.
It's the status.
It's that sort of thing.
But some people, they'd rather be with somebody who doesn't make as much money, but...
Yeah, but she's been fucked before.
I'm just saying, man.
She's not a virgin.
What he's saying is that your demands...
Don't necessarily align with your values.
Does that make sense?
My demands not being cheated on, that's just a given in a relationship.
That's not a demand, that's a given.
If you're in a relationship with someone, you don't cheat.
If you want to cheat and you want to fuck other people, don't be in a relationship.
What we're saying is that, again, I'm not saying that this is right.
I always tell guys to be honest with women, but the reality is the more money a man makes, the more successful he is.
He becomes more rare.
Therefore, he has more leverage.
Therefore, he's going to do certain things in a relationship that maybe another guy might not do or might not get away with.
So that's what it is a lot of times.
I call it successful guy problems.
I'm just not here for it.
So you're going to date an average guy?
Date an average guy then.
I'm not dating anybody right now.
I'm not interested.
Your next better guy is going to be average then.
Meaning that you're not going to date a rich man.
Because essentially what they're trying to say right now is that...
It's not necessarily him being rich.
No, I'm telling you, what they're saying right now is that because men are rich, they're going to cheat.
Rich and cheat, is that what you're saying?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I stand by that.
You gotta understand, you're not going to always find a devout, you know, religious person like Nick who's going to be like, you know what, I'm going to take this shit serious.
Yeah.
yeah but it should be like that i mean i know what you're saying and me and pearl me and pearl have the same disagreement because she says well you know that's the reality that's the way things are and i think it's true i think you're right it is a successful person problem yeah but i think that we have to be the change we want to see in the world i think that we should live our values you know and um we should expect more from ourselves so everybody go to single making christians
so all right guys we're We're going to switch over to Rumble.
Guys, come on over to Rumble.com slash Fresh Fit right now because we got some other shit.
I want to start talking about Transformers.
I want to know what Nick thinks.
And then we're also going to talk about a certain event.
Come on over to Rumble, guys.
Rumble.com slash Fresh Fit.
Come on over.
Switch over.
Equality thing.
Okay.
Alright, go ahead.
We'll continue on with what we were talking about before.
I think we're done with the cheating thing, right?
Yeah, I think totally.
Which man cheating?
I don't want to cheat it.
You have a question for the ladies, goddammit.
People want you to talk more, man.
What's Transformer?
What is that, transgender?
Let's talk about that.
Yeah, let's go.
What's your thoughts on the trannies?
Well, I think they're mentally ill.
I'm totally against it.
Wow.
It is.
It's just, by definition, it's an aberration.
You know why I brought it up?
Because when we were talking about our genos and our brains and all that, Because you can change that kind of stuff with medicine.
You can.
Because if I want to be a boy, I can take medicine.
You can't have a penis, though.
Yeah, you can.
How are you going to grow a penis?
Absolutely.
Nah, but those aren't real penises.
They are.
Nope, she said it was amazing.
But you don't have balls.
No, I didn't ask about balls.
No balls?
No semen?
Not a guy?
No, no, he ejaculated.
He ejaculated.
She absolutely told me that.
She absolutely told me that.
Impossible.
What is it, like some kind of robotic?
Yeah, how does that even happen?
How did he get both your...
Baby, she told me he came and she told me that it looked and felt the same.
She could have been lying, but that's what she told me.
Bro has no balls.
Not a guy.
You think that transgender people are mentally ill?
Yeah, I do.
Okay, let's unpack that.
Because how are they mentally ill when, just speaking of sexual reassignment surgery, because that's where we're going, you have to go to psychoanalytical therapy for a year.
You have to get a stamp and prove that you're not mentally ill.
Then they give you the surgery.
Yeah, and I think that that's all heavily politicized.
I think that body dysmorphia by itself, somebody thinking they're a guy when they're a girl or a girl when they're a guy, I think that by itself is something that has to be treated.
And here's why.
A guy cannot become a girl.
You know, you could stand in a garage.
It doesn't make you a car.
You could do all kinds of body modifications.
But you can!
You can because of medicine and because of progression.
You literally can.
Okay, well, what if Nick is saying they have gender dysphoria, which is, I believe, by the DSM-5, considered a mental illness.
Yes, it is.
And the treatment is gender reassignment surgery.
Right, then they're cured.
But that's the thing.
I think that that's sort of enabling.
But how are you not a medical professional and you are deciding...
I'm not a doctor.
Then how are you having such a stark opinion on what is the appropriate evidence-based treatment?
Well, but here's...
It's interesting you say that because what it sounds like is you're telling me that the only way that we can come to know things about this is through data, science, academia.
The reason I say that is because I believe in a natural law.
I believe in a moral law.
I think it's unnatural that a person would undergo a surgical treatment to remove their genitals and then create new genitals.
I think that's unnatural.
And because it violates what we're supposed to be, you know, a man.
You mean, that's the piece that you're leaving out?
Well, but I think that even not being Christian, you would still say that that's unnatural.
You know, unless you're like a Satanist or something.
I think there is, in my quest to find common ground with someone who I might disagree with, I think there is some merit to what you're saying.
It is politicized and there are a large amount of I think we're good to go.
I think we're good to go.
and the one thing that they come to is gender reassignment surgery i think unfortunately now there are a lot of people who come to regret their gender reassignment surgery which maybe is shedding a bad light on a community that is such a small is that a thing there yeah there are i um i think his name is matt wall she's like the guy with the glasses and he has a um yeah platform he made something what is a woman what What is a woman?
And he had, I think, several interviews with people who might have regretted their gender reassignment surgery.
But I don't think that necessarily takes away from there are at least a percentage worth of a few people who are affected by gender dysphoria.
Yeah, I just, I mean, me fundamentally, I think that, you know, you're born a man, you're born a woman, and it's literally, literally your bones.
It's literally...
It's your genetics.
It's your chromosomes, yes.
And so, I mean, you can cut stuff off and move parts around and change your hormones, but it doesn't make it so, and...
But your genomes are different at that point.
No, the genome has not changed.
Oh, it doesn't change?
The physiology has changed because you're like, you have technically more testosterone or whatever, but the genome, like the human chromosomes...
Are still the same?
They're still the same.
Because you're still the same.
I mean, you're a guy who has undergone those treatments.
You know, like if you're a guy who thinks you're a girl, you grow your hair out, cut your penis off.
You're a guy that cut his penis off and grew his hair out.
Doesn't make you a girl.
Okay, so let's not get too deep into that.
Great.
So do you think those people should be treated equally?
I think that they should be treated.
Do you think that they should be treated equally?
There's a way to treat that community with respect.
There's a way to treat that community with respect.
No, I asked him that.
But treated equally Huawei.
Not respect.
Not even respect.
I mean, like, legally, athletics-wise.
You know, there's a lot of people that do unnatural, degenerate, deviant things and live with mental illness.
You know, and so I don't think that there should be any kind of, like, you know, it shouldn't be, like, attacked or killed or cruelty.
I think it should be legal to discriminate against.
We have to be careful with that, though, because in a case-by-case situation...
A transgender man coming into the space of a woman can be problematic.
Of course.
When it comes to bathrooms and stuff like that, there's tons of cases of kids.
Well, I mean, hold on, hold on.
You guys, you two are athletes.
How would you feel if...
I was just gonna say that.
Like, that's not even a conversation that should be had.
Like, a man is physically...
Well, no, no, no.
Let me educate you guys a little bit.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You want equality, right?
If you're born a man and you get a sex change and you're competing in women's sports, you're still a man at the end of the day.
Men are superior to women physically.
If you want to compete in a woman's sport, the man's going to beat the woman.
No, listen.
If Myran and I run against each other, and he's like, oh, I want to be a girl, I want to run in track, and we run in a hundred meter sprint.
It doesn't work like that, though.
I'm very vocal about, because I was an athlete as well, so I am very vocal about Transgender being able to compete in girls' boys, right?
I think, like you said, you have respect.
I think that they should have their own sectors.
I think they should compete against each other.
However, since society said no, that's too, like, you know, Two races, or whatever we want to call it, right?
However, what does happen is, before they can compete, because it's a very ignorant thing, and I'm using ignorant, you know, for what the actual terminology means, to sit here and think, just because Myron wants to join a women's track team, he can.
It doesn't work like that.
They take hormones, they take therapies, they take tests.
So once they start competing with the women...
Yeah, they're on the same basis.
Their genetic makeups are the same.
Technically, there were...
It is.
Not at all.
That is a perfect fact.
Not at all.
That doesn't change your genetics.
You're just changing your body.
I'm telling you, in order for a transgender woman to compete in the Olympics, she has to go through tests and screening.
And if her genetics does not come back like mine or like hers or like hers, she won't be able to compete.
So...
I actually used to work in sports medicine before I went into grad school.
I had a career as an athletic trainer.
I studied this specific situation.
How long ago was this?
Because these laws just changed within the last two years.
So how long ago was this?
Like two years ago.
Okay, so that means this happened before the laws changed, but keep going.
So what you're saying?
What you're talking about is the blood levels of testosterone.
So there has to be like a certain level of testosterone.
I believe that like the muscle set has to be different, like the body complex.
Everything is taken into account.
However, I feel like if you look at a picture of Lea Thomas compared to like the teammates that she was with, There's just something very different about her athleticism.
And we can't deny that.
I don't think recognizing the difference is hateful.
I think that...
But it makes people feel bad.
What's your take on this?
What we're talking about is they're still guys.
It changes your physical body, but it doesn't change your genetics.
At the end of the day, you're still born a man.
You can identify as a woman, but that doesn't mean you're genetically a woman.
And how women train compared to how men train is completely different.
But again, once they start checking their hormones and their therapy, it's all that.
I mean, y'all gotta realize, I'm against it as well, but I just know how science affects the body.
And so again, when they get to that level of competition, they are literally sending that connect to women.
When you do blood tests and panel work.
Are you saying at the Olympic level or at the collegiate level only?
What do you refer to specifically?
I mean, I said Olympic.
However, they still do the same.
It's still now, nowadays, they're still the same amount because of the one woman that just, the one girl that just won the swimming competition and everybody got mad.
Yeah.
Because of her, the laws were changed.
That's what I'm saying.
This is all recent.
This ain't something that happened like years ago.
Are there enough people to make their own...
And exactly.
That's the problem because it's not enough him, but it's not enough people to study and it's not extensive and et cetera, et cetera.
So I'm not accepting it, but I'm just saying these are facts and you can actually research this.
And I mean, I try to take in content from both sides, both political sides, whatever.
I know people might say, oh, this woman's being a terp.
I'm really not trying to do that, but...
Biological women have worked so hard, and for someone to, unfortunately, be suffering with gender dysphoria, I get that's difficult, but, like, come on, man, you can't...
I say put their ass in their own category.
At the end of the day, what makes men men and women women is that guys have the fertilizer, women have the eggs.
Biological men will never be able to have kids.
Biological women will never be able to read.
So at the end of the day, they will never have the same reproductive faculties.
And that's why they're always going to be essentially different.
It just goes back to, and you mentioned what is a woman.
We have to talk about what is a man, what is a woman, what are these definitions, what distinguishes them.
And the thing that distinguishes them is the complementary role, parts, all those things.
And so dressing it up, and like you called it a treatment for a mental illness, it's just that.
It's just sort of playing into this fiction.
And, you know, the solution for people is reality.
Mental illness is not fiction.
I was just about to say it's a mental illness.
It's a fiction that they're a woman, you know, or they're a man or something.
Well, that's an opinion.
Like...
I mean, realistically speaking, men are superior to women in almost every regard, especially from the physicality standpoint.
So even when a man is suppressed with hormones, suppresses, etc., they still dominate and destroy women in every competition.
I actually competed against a transgender woman in flag football.
You got smacked.
It's unfair.
What actually happened was she was wildly uncoordinated and my team happened to beat her team.
But that's one instance.
Just to go against you guys' points as far as what essentially makes a man a man and a woman a woman.
there's literally a transgender man pregnant right now.
That baby's going to come out fucked up.
What do they do?
I just know that it was a man who became a woman and that motherfucker's pregnant.
Wait, a man?
Yeah, that don't sound right.
Can somebody do this one of y'all who got shot on?
Y'all think that I'm just pulling shit out of my ass.
I would want to be born that way.
who would want to be born out of like a guy's butt no because I'm super fucking against it you guys think like you guys not see the clown world that I I think that this is all problematic.
That we have men wanting to be women and there's a reason why so many guys want to transition over to women and not the other way around because a woman's life was way easier than a man's life in 2023.
That's a whole other thing.
But guys trying to have kids, like, this is all a problem.
Like, I think this is a big issue.
And at the end of the day, it's the women that are taking L's because the guys are transitioning over to women.
The women are transitioning.
So y'all are the ones losing scholarships.
Y'all are the ones getting smacked up.
It's women transitioning into men.
But it's never talked about.
It's never talked about.
It's never talked about.
Exactly.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is the thing that no one wants to admit.
The reality is most men transition to women because there's more opportunities and more benefits transitioning from a man to a woman.
By far, a man's life is way harder than a woman's life in 2023.
So you think they transition because they think the life of a woman is...
Yes, it is easier.
I don't think that's why they're transitioning.
I think it's because they're uncomfortable in their own bodies and they feel like they're supposed to be a woman.
That's hard to say that.
They're not transitioning because they're like, oh, I'm a woman.
I'm going to get all this stuff for free.
That's not it.
Putting on makeup and dressing up is not being a woman.
That's not being a woman at all.
Women have easier lives in 2023 than men do.
This entire conversation is just so interesting because these people make up like less than a half of a percent of the U.S. population and they have caused so much of a stir.
These issues, not that they're not important, but like we could talk about how this country treats veterans or like education or access to food or like gas prices.
And it's like we're talking about who gets to use what restroom.
Come on.
But here's why.
It's super important because it's the same thing with homosexuals.
Homosexuals are 3% of the population, but the gay marriage debate captured the nation.
Why?
Because it was about fundamentally redefining sexual morality based around consent, voluntarism, rather than based on marriage.
So even though it was something that only applied to a small portion of the population, it was about is marriage an indissoluble bond between a husband, wife, father and mother?
Or is it you like who you like?
It's like an exclusive sex partner.
And the same is true of transgender.
The bathroom sports debate, this is just where they're implementing this radical new ideology that man and woman are not meaningful categories.
When they say that it's totally arbitrary, we can change it.
And these just happen to be the points where it contacts society, where it's like, what do you do at the bathroom when it's genitals?
What do you do in sports when it's hormones?
And so it's super fundamental.
Are guys going to be guys?
Are they going to be Trump, Clint Eastwood?
Or are they going to be pussies?
Hold on.
I got a question for you on the transgenderism and the, you know, lack of gender identity.
Didn't a certain dude with a mustache that might have not got accepted to an art school, didn't he burn a bunch of books on that stuff?
Hitler.
Yes.
Hitler did do that.
Yeah, he burned a bunch of books on transgenderism and homosexuality.
It's one of the good things that Hitler did, yes.
Yeah.
Okay, well, great.
Shout out to Lifflet.
But back to what he was saying.
That was wild.
I did not mean that, y'all.
That was wild.
I did not mean that, y'all.
I swear to God.
Wait, who made those books?
Exactly.
Who made those books?
Magnus Hirschfield, who happened to be similar to this one.
The boyfriend.
She's Jewish.
I'm not Jewish.
No, your boyfriend's Jewish.
Oh.
You got upset because we talked about the Holocaust before.
I like Jewish people.
No, I heard the last show y'all did.
I like them.
They just caused me a lot of problems.
I'm going to go back to what you said, though.
You said that the marriage rights thing kind of captured the nation and said it might have been about...
Whatever you said it might have been about, it wasn't about...
Sexual exclusivity.
Thank you.
Sexual exclusivity.
But wasn't it about the fact that they didn't have the same kind of right as heterosexuals?
Well, but that's just it.
That's what it was really about.
Like, because why can't two same-sex people get married, but two straight people can't?
Because it wasn't about contract law.
It was about marriage.
It was about they wanted to be called married.
And it was also about legitimizing homosexuality.
Because of the rights that come when you get governorly married, it was about that.
They didn't want to just keep closet and having these long-term relationships and then one partner dies and then they don't really have a right because they don't have anything legally binding.
They want the same legally binding rights as the heterosexual person.
I disagree.
You completely dismiss that.
No, no, I'm saying I disagree.
I think all that is really a pretext, you know, because they always say civil rights, civil rights, equality, equality.
When in actuality, what they want is acceptance and normalization, and they want it to be considered as not bad.
Because prior to this, homosexuality was considered sinful.
You know, the Supreme Court decision came down, I think, in the 60s, and it basically said, like, we don't even need to explain this.
It's natural law.
Like, homosexuality's wrong.
Sodomy's wrong.
And so I think, you know, under the pretext of, we want visitation rights, you know, we want, we don't want discrimination in the workplace.
Like you say, it's about making it less discreet.
It's about making it public, normal, accepted.
And I'm saying, I don't think it should be.
I think these things are wrong.
I think both things are wrong.
So you don't think that gay people should have equal rights as everybody else?
I don't think they should be able to, they can't get married.
No.
I mean, uh...
He'll agree.
Don't worry about me.
I'm just here for the bank.
LAUGHTER Do you have a girlfriend?
No.
Oh my gosh.
Have you ever had a girlfriend?
No.
Zero.
No lace.
Okay, let's talk about what's your perfect partner.
Oh, I don't know.
Number one, okay.
Number one what?
White.
We know that.
White, yeah.
Check.
Specifically Italian.
Virgin.
No tattoos.
She has to be a virgin.
I'm going to be a virgin.
She's got to be a virgin.
I know of a YouTube couple where the girl was not and the man was and...
I don't know.
It works out for them.
It worked out for my best friend.
My girl best friend was a virgin until she was married.
And they got married.
She was about 26.
And he wasn't a virgin.
And they were together four years before they got married.
So it definitely works.
Keys and locks.
It's different.
Although, I would want a virgin wife.
Okay.
Do you masturbate?
Do I what?
Masturbate?
No, I try not to.
I'm not going to say I never have.
You actually do have to go to confession.
It's a mortal sin.
Do you masturbate to black girls?
No, no, no.
No comment.
Are you trying to date?
Like, is there someone you're courting?
Not really.
I mean, because we talked about it in the other show.
I'm just fascinated by you.
Yeah.
Well, I'm a fascinating guy.
No, you are.
Let's not compliment graciously.
I'm eccentric.
He's not a Jew, man.
Oh, I could never date a man that was younger than me.
And I never recommend a woman date a man that's younger than her.
I'm 25.
And also, I'm in a relationship.
I'm in a relationship.
I cannot have eyes for another man, but that doesn't mean I don't want to cry into his love life.
I love crying into other people's love life.
I love it.
I give dating advice for free online.
Hit me up.
What a sell.
In my love life, I love America.
You know what I'm talking about?
My love life, I love America.
That's what I've been about.
Nick, how do we make America great again?
Just tell me.
Kick out all the fucking immigrants now.
No, it's a joke.
That was a little tongue-in-cheek, but also true.
How do we make America great again?
We gotta get Trump back in office, man.
Yeah.
Gotta get Trump back in the White House.
What's going on with that?
He got charged.
What are you guys...
I'm curious.
Raise your hand if you support Trump.
Okay.
Whoa!
I wouldn't say I support Trump.
I agree with a lot of his policies and his ideals and stuff.
But I wouldn't say I support him.
I voted for him, though.
Let's go!
And what about for those that didn't?
I'm curious.
Who did you go for, Glow?
I didn't vote because I didn't...
You didn't vote?
No blacks on the ballot.
No, I did not.
Hold on, let me get her.
You're so pro-black and you ain't vote?
Say what you want to say, but neither one of them was my preference, so I didn't vote.
If you didn't vote for me, you ain't black.
Do you remember that?
Oh my god, is that from January 6th?
That's from Lansing, Michigan.
Nah, I did not.
I would vote locally, but all that president stuff, I ain't known it.
I vote locally.
But all that president, they can have all that.
Because the local elections is what matters anyway.
Tell us how you would make America great again and put America first.
What are the policies that you would instill?
And feel free to offend the girls on the panel.
Just keep it a thousand.
We're going to go back to colored water fowls, or what would we do?
I don't know about that.
It's got to be no more immigration.
We've got to just shut that down indefinitely.
We've got to kick all the illegals out.
That would be actually a good source of jobs.
Hire a bunch of border guards, kick them all out.
End all the foreign aid.
Bring the troops home.
Bring them out of Iraq.
Bring them out of Afghanistan.
Let's be done with that.
You've got to end all foreign corruption.
No dual citizens in the government.
We've got to basically fire everyone in the bureaucracy.
Not the dual citizens.
Are you a dual citizen?
I'm a German dual citizen.
Oh wow.
Don't do that.
I'm from here.
She's got a little Hitler in her.
Are you sympathetic to Hitler being German?
Are you sympathetic to Hitler being German?
What?
No, we're not sympathetic.
Definitely not.
I'm not trying to get you cancelled.
No.
Do you ever fear that your stark online presence will come in between you and having a girlfriend and a family and a wife one day?
I don't think so, because he's going to find his equal.
Yeah.
She has millions of followers.
Somebody wants you.
She's like the perfect match for you.
Yeah, but it's all these like conserva thought They say they're traditional but they're not you You know, they talk about, they're like, yeah, real life Christian, but it's just another way of getting attention and that sort of thing.
It's what they do.
What's your ideal age to get married and start the dating courting process?
Hopefully before I'm 30.
I'd like to be married before I'm 30.
Really?
And if that doesn't happen...
Well, then I'll get married after I'm 30.
Okay.
Good answer.
Men aren't on the same time clock as you guys.
At all.
Y'all can just bust and have kids.
At 30 years old, y'all are pretty much useless.
Only us.
We gained all your age.
We just keep leveling up.
It just gets better and better.
Is that true?
It's true.
Men gain value as an age.
Women lose value as an age.
It's funny.
Women gain older men.
So it's like, you guys know what the game is.
You get older men.
And y'all are that younger women because y'all, you know, they pretty and, you know, guys still got eggs.
Still got eggs.
It's not true, though.
Like, as a man, your sperm quality is going to hit the kaput sometime.
So it's in your best effort to not drag it.
Nah, because we can bust every day for five times a day.
Al Capuchino.
Al Capuchino.
Freaking got a baby at what, 68?
All of the resources he could ever possibly want.
I see what you're saying.
As you age, your sperm quality can go down, but it's not to the same level.
Your sperm level isn't going to drop as precipitously as a woman that's 31, 32, 33.
It's not the same.
It's not.
It is not the same.
Let it drop.
But I don't think it would be responsible to kind of like push the mindset.
Oh, guys, just wait till you're 40.
Realistically, try not to wait until you're 40.
And that's for both people.
Well, Aristotle said 37.
He said 18 for girls, 37 for guys.
Aristotle also got the misbegotten mail.
Incorrect.
Aristotle is not like we can't use that person as a metric for him.
I think it's a pretty good Trump.
Pop Barron now when he was like 60.
And Barron Trump is like seven feet tall.
And he's a man who is incredibly rich and has all of the medical resources potential.
We're not that guy.
We're not Donald Trump.
The average man should not be waiting until we're 40.
Egg quality decreases.
Sperm quality decreases.
Find your person and have a family as responsibly and quickly as possible.
Everyone is getting touched by the time.
Yeah, but we bust nuts every day.
Come on, like, can you admit we bust nuts every day?
Chris, what?
Chris, you said it like five times.
Like, nobody's listening to you.
I'm going to say, Kat, you're 33, right?
We bust nuts every day.
Come on, man.
You going to take that from him?
Come on, Kat.
Don't take that from him.
What did he say?
He's 33.
She's old, Mac Mama.
Honey, and eggs is frozen, and I'm going to have my babies, and I'm going to be fine, because I'm not having no babies while I'm poor, and don't get no fucking partners.
Real quick.
Thank you.
You said something controversial earlier that the girls all got triggered at.
You said that you like Hitler.
Yeah.
And can you tell the people why?
And we'll talk about that on Monday, what they said about Kanye West and that whole situation.
They totally misconstrued that, but we'll talk about that on Monday.
So yeah, we'll go back to that.
Sorry.
So...
Yeah, well, you know, he's a good guy.
And he's very...
Yeah, he's a good guy.
Similar to me, he got a bad rap.
You know, I mean, everybody calls me names that are not true.
So I can relate to that.
No, but I mean, everybody...
Here's the thing.
It's actually a really big topic.
It's actually super important.
You know, when I was in college, I was thinking about why everyone hated Trump.
And it's because everyone was comparing him to Hitler.
Everyone was saying, this guy's like Hitler.
Why?
Why?
Well, he was talking about building a border wall, being a strong nationalist, bringing country together under one leader.
I think that we should have a king.
Like, I think it's better than democracy that we should have one leader.
And anyway...
A king is crazy.
True.
God, you're right.
God runs the world.
But I mean, like, on Earth, we need a king to rule the country.
And so I was thinking, well, they don't like Trump because they keep...
It always goes back to Hitler.
You can't do this, that, and the other because of Hitler.
And I said, well, why is that such a taboo?
Because the hammer and sickle, which represents communism, communism killed 100 million.
And communism is responsible for horrible atrocities.
Just the same as a swastika.
But the swastika is not accepted anywhere.
You know, Stalin, I could sit here and say Joseph Stalin's a great guy.
No one's going to care.
I say Hitler's great.
That's like a little wild to say.
Well, but you understand it's a different treatment.
You know what I'm talking about.
And I say, why?
And the reason why is because Hitler, they say, had the worst, even though there were other genocides or other atrocities, Hitler's was the worst.
Why?
They say it was the worst because it was technological, industrial.
He tried to exterminate a whole group of people.
Let me guess, it was revolutionary.
No, no, it was just the industrial nature of it.
As they said, it was a unique horror in human history.
At the same time, they also only talk about one aspect of it.
You know, I'm referring to the Holocaust, of course.
Do they ever talk about the Polish people that Hitler killed, or the gypsies, or homosexuals, or the Catholics?
They do.
Not as high, not as, like...
It's mainly talking about the Jews, but...
It's mainly talking about the Jews, but I thought you said you don't believe that people were getting killed.
Well, that's the thing.
I was waiting to see you get there.
So I'm leading in there.
So I'm saying, you know, the reason they say so evil is because of this.
And again, other leaders have done atrocities and other leaders have killed millions and other leaders have done wars.
But they say this guy was uniquely the worst.
Why?
Technological.
And specifically has something to do with the Jews.
And I said, well, that's kind of an interesting thing because we have these Holocaust museums everywhere.
It's all over the curriculum.
It's all over the schools.
It's all over the TV's.
As I start to dig into it, and you find that one of the preeminent World War II historians in the history of the world, his name's David Irving.
He speaks all the languages, French, German, reads all the source documents in the original language.
He's like regarded as the number one historian, makes millions, sells books, widely esteemed by the whole community.
He goes in and says, well, there were attributes about the Holocaust which may not be true.
Like, for example, a lot of the Jews that died in these camps, they weren't death camps.
He says the people that died there, they died because there was disease spreading in the camps.
They died because they were running out of food.
As Germany lost the war, they were running out of the means to feed the prisoners.
The Allies were bombing the railways that provided the food to the camps.
And so when you see these pictures of people being shoveled in and the mass graves and things like that, maybe it's not gas chambers.
Maybe it's not an extermination.
Maybe these were people who still unfairly and in a discriminatory way were locked up for being Jewish, but maybe these technological whores are exaggerated.
Maybe the numbers are exaggerated.
This guy gets nuked from orbit.
They sue him to pieces.
They put together a legal team to go over line by line, every word of his books.
And they come up with like a dozen discrepancies.
He's made volumes and volumes.
They come up with like a dozen things.
None of them really important.
All of them a matter of interpretation.
But they destroy the man's life.
And I ask myself, because then I interrogate the subject, and I find evidence that maybe the Holocaust isn't as it seems.
And then I think about the term, if I go out and say that, I get called a Holocaust denier.
What other event is treated this way?
If I say the Armenian Genocide didn't happen, I mean, people say that.
But if you get called an Armenian Genocide denier, does anyone even know what that means?
Does anyone even give a shit?
You get fired from your job?
No.
Even for that matter, and this is some of the stuff Ye was talking about, Ye said, how many black babies are getting aborted?
You know, if I don't give a shit about that, I face no repercussion.
But if I talk about the Holocaust the wrong way, they come from my head.
If I say it's one less than six million, they kill me.
You lose your job.
And so I said, and this is just my thesis again, food for thought.
Is it the case that every double standard about Hitler, the Nazis, the Holocaust is that way because it's all real?
Or is it that way because there's a big industry that's built around that?
And insofar as the Holocaust exists, Anytime you talk about Jewish media, Jewish slave trade, Israel, Palestine, they say, oh, that's anti-Semitic.
You're going to cause another Holocaust.
Fired, decapitated, blah, blah, blah.
And so I feel like it's a lot more plausible that this is being used to bully people into not talking about certain topics.
It's not to say that nothing bad happened.
It was a world war.
And there were concentration camps on both sides.
Germans were put in concentration camps by Eisenhower.
America put Japanese in internment camps.
Japanese killed Chinese.
It was a world war.
It was a bloodbath.
Horrible things on all sides.
But this is the one you can't talk about, and it's because of the victims.
That's all I'm saying.
And then you get into the war, and that's a whole other topic, but Hitler brings back the German economy, and Germany was raped, basically, after World War I. I don't mean to use that in an insensitive way, but they were really screwed.
I mean, they got blamed for the war, they had this huge debt, their country was destroyed, and it was all because Germany...
Unified in the late 19th century, became a great industrial power.
Anyway, so they got totally screwed over.
Hitler comes back and says, we're going to strengthen the currency, rebuild the economy, get total employment.
We're going to bring back these ethnic German, German-speaking parts of Germany that were cut off after World War I in Czech Republic, in Austria.
He's the most popular leader in the world, Times Man of the Year.
Everybody loves him.
Well, you know, then the British and the French declare war on him for trying to take Danzig, which is all German speakers.
Hitler goes in there and says, look, all I wanted was Danzig.
Let's have peace with Poland.
Britain and France declare war.
So Hitler goes in, destroys the British army, but lets most of them escape at Dunkirk.
Says, look, let's have peace.
The war's over.
The British say, nope.
And the British start bombing Germany, which is illegal.
They start bombing German cities.
They did it first because they knew that Germany would respond.
And Hitler says, look, stop bombing my cities.
This is illegal.
You're killing my people.
They keep doing it.
So Hitler responds.
The British public says, whoa, we're getting bombed by Hitler.
All right, let's go to war.
This is how you get a world war on your hands.
It's very clear that you are so incredibly educated on this topic, far beyond what I am currently and probably what I will ever be in my entire life.
I'm just not that interested in learning about the history of the Holocaust.
Bruh!
I mean, I gotta pick what I study, and studying medicine takes up a lot of my time.
Okay, let him finish the point then.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought...
He wasn't done.
He definitely wasn't done.
Well, I can wrap it up, but...
No, no, no, no.
It's fine, Nick, because you're saying a lot of things that a lot of people don't know.
Yeah.
It's important.
Yeah.
And this is very, very true stuff.
I mean, look at the Versailles agreement if you guys don't believe them about Germany getting destroyed after World War I. If you don't believe Eisenhower killing a bunch of Germans, he did it as well.
This is all true.
Sorry, continue on.
Well, and here's the big picture.
And then we'll turn it to you ladies to debate it after if you disagree.
Yes.
The big picture is this.
The narrative history of World War II still affects our political discourse.
That's the big picture.
We're still talking about World War II. It still matters.
And it's foundational for so much of the stuff we believe about the international community, about how the international community works, about rights, liberalism, all these kinds of things.
And so there's a vested interest in what we believe about World War II, because if we didn't believe certain historical narratives about World War II, maybe we wouldn't believe in certain other things.
You know, that argument that we can't have Trump because he's Hitler-like...
Suddenly evaporates.
Suddenly there's not as much of a good argument for it.
And, you know, we could keep going through the history about it, about, you know, the Soviet Union being ready to invade Europe.
This is called the Suvorov hypothesis.
Yeah, everybody says that back in the day, Hitler betrayed Stalin and Stalin was duped.
You know, maybe you guys don't know, but the Soviet Union is like this massive military power.
They're communist.
And then the story goes something like this.
Hitler signs a truce with Stalin and Hitler betrays Stalin and goes in and invades and Stalin's totally caught off guard and gets screwed by this.
There is a hypothesis that emerged 30 years ago that says, actually, Stalin was not duped.
Stalin was preparing for war for 20 years to take over all of Europe.
He was preparing.
They knew, for example, that he was preparing to cross the British Channel or the English Channel And invade England because he was building amphibious tanks that could cross water.
So when Hitler goes in and invades Russia, it's not that Stalin was unprepared.
It's that he was building offensive units, not defensive units.
Stalin was ready to take over all of Europe until Hitler preempted him by invading first.
And so looked at one way about World War II is that Hitler saved Europe from Stalin.
Because, of course, Stalin comes in after World War II. We're good to go.
Anybody have anything for that?
I think there's a difference.
Anybody have anything for that one?
I just feel like it's more than what is being said right here.
Okay, what more is there?
Go ahead.
Y'all don't want to know my intake on Hitler?
Yes!
Yeah, go ahead.
When he was killing people, he was looking for something.
Like, in the people, he was looking for something.
Which I don't think he was looking towards the right race.
Oh, who should have he been killing then?
His people.
I'm not going to speak on that.
It's okay.
We're on Rumble.
Say what you want.
I might think I'm crazy.
Open ears for this.
I don't really care about this because I don't live by the word.
I live by the word.
That's two different.
If I live by the word, I'm not worried about this.
Like, I didn't come here for this.
But, they just...
Do you mean in the Bible?
Yeah, by the word.
Okay.
I'm gonna just say, there's theories like, they say, I'm not saying it's true, white people are aliens.
Oh my goodness.
Are you serious?
What the hell is going on right now?
I'm so serious.
I read, like, I watch them.
And they never found Hitler's body either.
Just give her a second.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Okay, so...
I just want to make sure I have this right.
So the conclusion is, is that white people are aliens.
I mean, I'm going by what I read.
It kind of made sense when I was watching it.
It, like, made sense in my head.
You know what a lot of people do with y'all on IQ, man.
She's going to really put y'all on IQ down, man.
Goddamn.
It's only because you live by the world, and I live by the world.
That's the only reason you live by the world.
So you think white people are a celestial being?
This is not my world.
I don't belong here.
Please tell me where the world is.
Period.
I'm not an alien.
I didn't say you were, I just said it isn't there.
Are you religious?
Yeah, I am.
I am a terrestrial being.
I know God wasn't white.
That's all I'm gonna do.
So what you're saying is that everything that he said was incorrect because white people are aliens.
No, I didn't say everything he said.
She's saying that Hitler should have killed whites because whites are aliens.
Oh, I didn't say they were aliens.
I said in theory.
I didn't say it was my theory.
Okay, but tell us again why Hitler should have killed his own people.
But he did kill his own people.
Did he really?
They were not a part of the Aryan race, I think.
Oh, okay.
Okay, so why should Hitler kill his own people?
It was in theory.
I was watching a video basically on him.
Stupid.
I'm not.
Thank you very much.
I'm not gonna lie.
That was probably one of the craziest responses.
Y'all should go watch it.
What did you watch?
What's it called?
Our channel?
Y'all know those videos with...
They do...
Never mind.
They be taken.
Underbelly?
White underbelly?
They're taking white drugs?
I don't take it, but like I be watching the, you know, they be high and they show their experience or they talk.
White underbelly?
Are you talking about white underbelly?
Software underbelly?
Yeah.
Yeah, that.
Yeah, he got some good theories.
I mean, it's a theory.
I mean, she did say it was a theory.
You know, we didn't listen to Nick theories all night, so we gotta let maybe girl be great.
This man just said he was a good person, so we gonna let her be great.
No, he said he did good things.
He said it was good people on both sides.
He said he was a good person.
Hold on, hold on.
It's a fact that he absolutely did Saved the German economy and 100% turned them around after World War I because the Versailles Agreement absolutely destroyed Germany.
And he revitalized the economy, brought millions of jobs back, created a train system.
He did a lot of things for Germany.
So fuck them gas chambers and them concentration camps.
I'm saying that though he did things that were morally incorrect, he definitely did a bunch of things correct for his country.
That's a fact.
That's not even like my opinion or whatever.
But what he's trying to say is that you can't even say the good that he did for his country because that's considered...
It doesn't matter when she kills six million people.
Who gives a fuck about the good things you did?
Well, it wasn't six million.
I mean, okay.
Five hundred thousand.
Who cares?
I don't understand.
Does the reward really fit the risk at that point?
Well, the big thing is to understand that it wasn't just a certain group of people that were killed, like they try to say.
It was a bunch of people.
Well, I think that people that are mildly knowledgeable, not this level of knowledgeable.
You got it.
We understand that he didn't only kill one type of person.
But what he's trying to say is that that's what's been perpetuated is that it's been just one class of victim when in reality it was a bunch of different people.
Right, but that doesn't make it any less bad.
Well, check this out.
And that is true.
It's never good at all.
We're just saying, on some level, he did some things to help his country.
Which, ultimately speaking, as a leader, that's what you're going to do.
That's an objective statement.
I don't think any intelligent person would argue that.
I can go talk to them Jews in my building.
Hold on, hold on.
Stop, stop, stop.
You guys are going with your feelings.
What he's basically saying is that what he said is an objective truth that he did help Germany during a certain period of time.
What he's saying is that he can't even state that without being attacked.
He can't even state an objective truth without being attacked.
That's a problem.
I mean, I don't think that's the...
That's not the issue I had with anything.
Like, I understand where you're coming from.
It's an intelligent conversation versus an emotional conversation.
Right.
And when you speak the way that you do, it's very easy to see that you're not having an emotional conversation.
But when you started off by saying...
Yeah, I think Hitler was a good guy.
Or like, however you started off, it was like a little tongue-in-cheek.
I think you know what you're doing.
You're very smart.
He does.
He's very smart.
Yeah, you get the people going.
You know what you're doing.
But at the same time, even though he said all of those things, when you compile it and dress it up with a whole lot of jargon and verbiage that people don't understand on a topic that people aren't really that knowledgeable about, You get lost.
Yeah, you get lost in it.
And then, at the same time, it's like, okay, well, how much is this opinion-based and fact-based?
However, I don't give a fuck.
I want to go back to what you said.
Well, who's fault then, if you don't know?
Go to the notes.
No, you're right, because I could have done this extensive level of Hitler research and...
World War II research too, but I just didn't.
I'd rather go to see Anne Frank's house in fucking Amsterdam.
You know, that's what I did.
You know, whatever.
But he...
You made a comment that said Trump was Hitler-like and that's why people didn't like him.
Yes.
Right.
So my take on that was was he Hitler-like or was it his history of blatantly discriminating against people, a certain type of people, Publicly, and criminalizing an entire race of people publicly.
Well, here's what I'm saying.
Because Trump wasn't sitting here saying, fuck it!
Carry him up!
Let's all shoot him up!
Pop!
Trump didn't do that.
He didn't say that.
Well, you're right that there are other reasons that people don't like Trump.
What I'm talking about, though, is that there is a pattern where, like, people will be set out as targets and then compared to Hitler, like Trump, Vladimir Putin, Bashar al-Assad.
I will let Putin be there, but not Trump.
That's what I'm saying, though.
It's not too much about Trump.
I'm thinking about the conversation and how some things are necessarily bad.
No one will say why.
They'll just say because they sound like the Nazis.
They sound like Hitler.
If I go and say something like, I think America should be majority white, people go, whoa, what do you like, Hitler?
What do you like, a Nazi?
And I'm thinking, where does that negative connotation come from?
In other words...
When we look at sort of the moral language of the political debate, it's like framed by Hitler.
It's almost like the worst thing you could be is like a Nazi, right?
And the best thing you could be is like Nelson Mandela or MLK, you know, like a sainted civil rights activist.
And so I'm trying to suss out If there's these two positions, we can figure out what the values are that underlie them.
And so what people call evil is a coherent society where there's homogeneity, meaning everyone is similar, a strong national leader, patriotism, strong masculine fathers and workers.
All that, you would see the connotation with Nazism.
In the contrast, what's the best thing?
Well, it's like a gay pride parade.
It's like a big gay Black History Month pride parade where everybody's waving rainbow flags.
And those values are openness, tolerance, pluralism, multiculturalism, liberalism, those kinds of things.
And so it's really just about framing the debate in terms of why are these things so loaded up?
Why can't we talk about an alternative system?
And it's because No, because the alternative system marginalizes a certain group of people and discriminates against a certain group of people.
If it didn't do that, then we could have that kind of conversation.
Not necessarily, though.
I don't think that, like, for example, in World War II, Nazi Germany wasn't less racist than America or any other country for that matter.
I'm talking about this Trump era because the one thing that people dislike about Trump so much is the fact that he created such a divisive culture, right?
And I disagree with that.
He didn't do that.
What he did was he empowered the people that were already closeted and made them feel empowered to be vocal.
It was always there.
So we cannot continue to blame this one man for destroying our culture and making it 1950 all over again because it was already there.
All he did was empower people.
Okay, that's fair.
Well, I'm talking about specific things, though.
Like, for example, Trump...
I was like, don't give me another World War II reference.
Give me a Trump reference.
Okay, yeah, we can talk about Trump.
Yeah.
I mean, like, so they say Trump attacks the media, and that's like a fascist tactic, to go after the media.
They say it's about other leaders, too, like Orban and Hungary.
He goes after the media, and that goes against our open society, where the media can criticize the government.
But is it necessarily wrong to attack the media?
The media is very corrupt.
It's wrong when you're doing it by saying inaccurate things.
The thing that's worse than being uneducated is miseducated.
How about something accurate, though, like the war in Iraq?
I mean, is it accurate to say that the media lied about the war in Iraq?
And weapons of mass destruction.
There you go.
I mean, point being is, there's nothing inherently wrong with criticizing the media, but people say, oh, well, that's like the fascists, and the fascists are always wrong because they did the Holocaust.
No, but the problem is, he was saying untruths in broadcasting that.
People didn't give a fuck what he was saying.
Right stuff!
Like what?
I think Donald Trump is just a very unlikable individual.
Because he's arrogant.
Yeah, sometimes.
He earned the right to be arrogant.
I mean, and he's openly racist in his cases that you can actually see and follow about stuff like this.
I would never encourage anyone to be arrogant, but I mean, the first tell into how the presidency that he had was going to go was when he was in that bus and got caught saying, You can grab a woman by the pussy and get away with or whatever that was.
That's an insane thing to say.
So, a guy talking with his boys about certain things that shouldn't be on camera, so to speak, and he's messing around.
He got caught lacking.
You're using that as an argument to say he's a bad person or a bad president?
No, I... I would say something like that means he lacked moral compass.
And someone that lacks moral compass...
Honestly, I would not say that I have the...
Go ahead, go ahead.
He just said it was okay to sexually assault women.
No, he said when you're a celebrity, you can grab them by the pussy.
And what he's saying is that they like that when you're somebody.
When you're somebody, it's okay to sexually assault women.
No, no, no.
The context was he's famous.
And when you're famous, women like you and you get away with things that regular guys would not be able to...
It's still sexual assault.
I don't care how many other colorful words you put in there.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
If a guy that you like grabs you by the pussy, it is not sexual assault.
However, if it's someone that you don't like, then it...
What?
If you give him permission, then it's not how you treat a woman.
Hold on, hold on.
Okay, okay.
Hey!
Jumping way ahead of this.
Ladies, if you're with a man, right, in the same act, this is the difference between women, it being sexual assault, being wanted.
If you like the guy, it's accepted.
It's like, wow, he's so assertive and dominant.
This is so hot.
But if he's someone that you don't know or whatever, then it becomes sexual assault or it's weird or if it's unwanted.
It depends on the individual.
So, Trump, under the context of what he's saying is that you're famous, girls love you, you can grab by the pussy, they don't even care.
In other words, you are able to do things that other men cannot do because of your celebrity status and women like you because of your celebrity status.
That's the context under which the conversation is happening.
And plus, that's a locker room talk.
You can have that discussion with your guys, because I guarantee when you guys are on your ladies, you talk about how this dude's a loser, small dick here, blah, blah, blah.
It's okay for women to openly shit on men behind the scenes, but if a guy does, it's a problem.
Actually, Cardi B made a whole song about dragging people and doing things like that.
So why can't Trump have a joke with his boys?
I don't support Cardi B. I don't support grabbing people by their genitalia.
If my boyfriend did that, he would never disrespect my body like that.
Does he walk up to you and say, can we fornicate, please?
No.
I mean, I think you have a different type of relationship style than I do and I would never openly disrespect your relationship style.
It's not robotic like that.
It's very sensual and very intimate and very sweet and what we both like.
But I do think that objectively, Donald Trump is an unlikable, not objectively, subjectively, excuse me, Donald Trump is widely disliked.
I'm not going to share my personal views on him and I never, I haven't yet.
But when you say something like that and maybe don't take accountability, it's the greatest of luck.
Okay, look, realistically speaking, most women like to be objectified during sex.
Just because that's not going on in your relationship doesn't mean that other women don't like to be...
I didn't say I don't like it.
I mean...
I said if he grabs me by the pussy in the way that Donald Trump...
You just contributed yourself.
No, I didn't.
Okay, can I jump in?
No, I didn't.
Because I don't think it's okay.
Wait a minute.
Hold on, look, look, look.
There's a reason why Fifty Shades are Grey is the most popular book amongst women.
Women absolutely love to be degraded, treated like shit, et cetera, during sex because women don't want equality in any confinements, especially in a sexual relationship and or relationship.
That man was talking about just walking up to women because he's Donald Trump.
It's okay that he grabs a body of coochie.
That's what he was talking about.
He said they let you do it.
He said they let you do it.
He never said they liked him.
I don't give a fuck.
If a fucking Drake walks up to me and grabs my coochie, I'm going to smack his goddamn hand.
I agree with you.
However, when we say grabbing over by the pussy, what nigga you know does that?
A lot of it.
It is a terminology used to say.
I can smash, literally.
It's terminology.
Let's do it.
Yeah, Kat, come on, man.
We're not saying physically cool crap about the pussy.
Let's take out the grab...
Shut the fuck up, Chris.
Let's take out the grab-about-the-pussy thing, right?
Let's talk about Suki.
Let's talk about Suki and O-O-G. Yeah, sure.
Let's talk about that.
What the fuck?
That's not okay.
That's not okay.
That's essentially the same thing that Trump said.
Oh, well, you're somebody.
You can do what you want, and it's funny.
He walked up to her, kissed her in her mouth, thinking it was funny.
She didn't like him.
I guarantee you if that's someone that she loved or wanted to be with, oh, yeah, kiss me on camera.
I don't care.
No, of course.
How do you see a random person?
That's what he's saying.
A celebrity that girls want to be with, he He can do whatever he wants.
He felt invited, which is why he did what he did.
He felt invited.
Who?
And you just said it was an individual thing.
You can't go up to everyone and say that he felt invited.
No, no, no.
The context under which he said that is like, women will let you once you reach a certain status and you're attractive.
And he talked about him running The Apprentice Show.
The context of it is very important.
And again, This comes back because women like to be treated like sluts during sex.
I don't care what none of you guys say.
You like to get your hair pulled, get shit talked to you, whatever it may be.
Women like to be degraded during sex and they like a man that can manhandle them.
That's just how it is.
Women don't want equality in anything in their man.
I never said that women don't like that.
I said the very act of going up to a woman and putting your hands between her legs and going like this is insane.
Some women will like that though.
Some women will like that.
Okay, that's individualism.
Are we just saying, for argument's sake, niggas go up to girls and be like, Yes, that's insane.
No, they don't!
Who does that?
Okay, so is it okay?
That's literally what Donald Trump said.
But it's a term.
It's a term.
It is not an absolute...
It's not literal.
I definitely took it literal.
The reason why I said that is because women love to be treated like sluts by men that are superior to them.
In general, women love to be treated like sluts by men that are superior to them.
I'm sorry, I've never heard the speech.
I'll grab her by the pussy.
I'm just not familiar with that.
Because women like to be gay like sluts.
I mean, if we're reading between the lines.
Yes!
Critical thinking!
No!
Which women lack the ability to critical think?
This is a perfect example of that.
Women like men to have power.
Women like men to have money.
Women like men to have status.
Guess what?
Trump has all of them.
So what does he say?
Hey, when you have my kind of status and you're running the top show, The Apprentice, which is before all y'all time, maybe, maybe not cats, but you'll go ahead and you'll know, right?
Oh, women love their shit.
Okay.
When you reach my status, women will let you grab them by the pussy because women in general, like men that are superior to them in every way.
And they like to go ahead and take that into the bedroom.
I I mean, it's very simple.
Do you know, I actually, I'm going to politely disagree.
I think that...
I'm going to disrespectfully disagree.
What part do you disagree with specifically?
What part?
One, I believe that women do have the ability to critically think.
In general, they don't.
I just, I cannot agree with that.
I don't have time to get into it.
Of course you don't.
This discussion has proven it.
All of you guys have given emotional responses when you said objective truths because of how it made you feel.
Hey, Hitler did good.
What?
Your fucking feelings immediately went in, but he gave you guys an irrefutable fact about what Hitler did for Germany, but your feelings override the facts that he's presenting because women are feel-dominant.
That's not true.
Nobody gave a fuck about the good shit you did when you killed all those people.
Again, feelings.
Emotional.
Myra, who the fuck cares about the good shit that Hillary did but this guy?
Look, look, look, look, look.
He just said, he said an objective truth.
He said an objective truth, but your feelings overrode the fact that he stated an objective truth.
You said, I don't care, my feelings.
He killed people, but he did good too.
I mean, it doesn't take someone, anyone can objectively and intelligently realize that he could have done terrible, tragic things.
And also help the economy.
Like, I don't understand what the argument is.
You guys all had a knee-jerk reaction and reacted emotionally, which proves my point that women have lack...
Just because we had a knee-jerk reaction, that doesn't necessarily mean that we are incompetent.
That's what you're trying to tell us.
I'm telling you that women are not...
Look, it's very simple.
Women are not strong critical thinkers like men.
They're not deductive problem solvers.
They're not good leaders.
This is why men overwhelmingly are inventors and create the change in the world and women are just living in it.
I'm actually, I'm going to push past what you said because if I have the ability to think emotionally about what he said and then choose to intelligently understand his objective truths, I think that's far more powerful than just saying logic, logic, logic.
I take a second to feel And then I say, you know what?
The man is saying something.
And that second to feel is the difference between men and women.
We don't need that second to feel.
There's a million men outside of YouTube.
If that man would have sat here and said, well, you know, Hillary did a lot of good shit.
I don't give a fuck who was right.
Everybody would have been like, Whoa!
We're going to sit here and listen.
We're going to sit here and listen and be like, damn, I guess you do get a couple points.
But the initial reaction is going to be, whoa, y'all just sit there and listen.
I was listening.
We were listening.
We listened to him for like seven minutes straight.
He gave us an entire history course.
Exactly.
And I'm quite impressed.
And some men would benefit from taking a second to feel their emotions and then decide how to react.
And I just say that Hitler would never grab him by the pussy.
Hitler was a good guy.
He wouldn't do that.
No, because you know him.
He wouldn't do that.
Because you're talking like y'all best friends or something.
Right, like he would take away that.
He wouldn't do that.
Like, he would take away that or something.
So is genocide ever the answer?
What?
Is genocide ever the answer?
No.
No, I'm Christian.
I don't believe in killing people.
- You're contradicting.
- We got some chats here.
- Anything else before I move on to the chats or whatever?
- What?
- You guys have an issue with Trump and grab by the pussy, anything else? - I mean, think about, okay, then.
I know that you believe he was speaking figuratively.
I literally believe he is arrogant enough to actually put his hands between a woman's shirt and cap.
And girls would like it.
I mean, yeah.
Some girls, sure.
Okay, my thing on Trump is this.
Um...
I think that the reason why I can sit here and say that I am a Trump supporter as an African-American woman...
So you like him?
Yes.
I never said I didn't.
Exactly.
I literally never said I didn't.
Y'all just acted like I did.
Just because I have a knee-jerk reaction.
Why are you so mad about the pussy thing, though?
I don't think that sexual assault is okay.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
It's not sexual assault though.
It is.
Anyway, it's not.
Anyway, so I'm not thinking about it.
Let me ask you a question.
No, because see, this sets a dangerous precedent.
There's a reason why I'm going to take this because the thing is that if a woman is with a man and they're in a romantic relationship and he grabs her by the pussy because it's like their foreplay or whatever the fuck, is that really sexual assault?
No.
But if I mean Donald Trump, because I know he's like black girls.
So if I'm at Donald Trump, if he is black, yeah girl, they all like a little black girl.
And this man, I'm at Mar-a-Lago doing my thing or whatever, you know, and that man want to grab my coochie because he's Trump.
Like, I'm supposed to be okay with it.
I'm not going to be okay with it.
What are you doing at Mar-a-Lago?
Huh?
What are you doing at Mar-a-Lago?
How did he get you over there?
You know, I'm just around.
Like, you know.
So just because I'm around, it's okay for people to sexually assault me because I'm in certain circles.
It's like going to the club.
It's like going to the club.
What about my political aspirations?
Why am I not there to rub shoulders with the who's rude?
Why am I not doing any of that?
What about a pinch in the butt?
You're literally saying it because I'm at Mar-a-Lago hanging out.
It's okay to sexually assault me.
Bro, this is why women shouldn't vote, man.
A pinch in the butt.
A pinch in the butt.
But you being at Mar-a-Lago, you gotta look past it.
Why are you at Mar-a-Lago?
What time of day is it?
Have y'all flirted beforehand?
What kind of conversation was had before?
We don't want to go ahead and just go right to the conclusion.
Everything that led up to it, That led to him potentially doing that.
What was the implication?
What was going on?
Remember the one's accountability?
You got grabbed by the pussy, but it's like, what were y'all doing beforehand?
Like, what was going on?
The issue is, is that like, for example, they jumped all the way ahead, but all the steps beforehand.
So all the steps, what are the steps?
You were getting on the plane.
You were invited to the location, right?
Well, you didn't have to talk It was either a section where other people were there.
The point is that you were there in that environment.
So ultimately, if you like the guy and he approaches you or even touches you, okay, I like him.
It's cool.
If he's a weirdo, me too.
Hashtag me too.
Yeah.
The problem is that women make accusations off of regret, not that they're off of regret.
I don't agree with you.
You can't put yourself in a position for your pussy to get grabbed and then be mad for your pussy to get grabbed.
That's what they're saying.
I got a question for everybody.
I'm the only dancer on the panel tonight, right?
So it's okay for people to sexually assault me because I'm a dancer.
You can't say, I don't like this man, I don't like this man.
But every time he invites you somewhere, you're there.
What you just said, Listen to what I just said.
So because I'm a dancer, it's okay for people to sexually harass me and sexually assault me because I'm a dancer.
That's what she just said though because I put myself in that position.
So every time I'm at the club working, it's okay for people to sexually assault me.
Okay, so you're working at the club but whatever you do after that because it's dancers that like to do extra stuff for extra money.
So whatever you do after that is you putting yourself in a position for your pussy to get to have.
At that point, it's not sexual assault because I got consent.
I keep saying it's about consent.
Okay, so if I'm saying...
My consent is me being there.
If I don't want to be there, I would not be there.
That's all I'm saying.
If I don't like a guy, and I know I don't like a guy, I'm not going to put myself in a position.
I'm telling you, I don't like you, I don't like you, don't like you.
Don't touch me, don't touch me.
Because I get invited to a party.
I don't like minor, right?
I hate minor.
Then you don't really hurt him.
Somebody invited me to a party and Myron's there.
I'm not supposed to go because I don't like him.
You're going there.
And again, Donald Trump didn't personally invite me to Mar-a-Lago.
I said someone invited me.
That's all hypothetical.
Exactly, but that's why I took it out of a hypothetical context.
Let's put it in a real world context because I am a dancer.
And what y'all sit here saying is it's okay if you put yourself in certain situations that certain things happen.
That's not true.
Certain clubs let their patrons touch the girls regardless.
In the real world, that's because of sexual assault, but since you're in a club and you're an employee, no, they can touch you.
No, they can't.
You can either put out for touching you.
I'm saying certain clubs let their patrons touch the girls.
And if you want them to...
Kat, we live in Miami, right?
Right.
You've been invited to what?
Celebrity parties every now and then.
Yeah.
What happens?
Celebrities pull up.
The girls are there.
Yeah.
All right.
I want her, her, and her pull up to the back room.
Right.
And they go.
But why is that?
Because they like the guy.
Exactly.
So, for example, Trump is saying, if I got by the pussy, I can do it because I have status.
Once again, it's just that is what girls like.
So if it's a weirdo from CBS... Right, I'm not refuting that no more, Fresh.
What I'm refuting now is the concept behind putting yourself in situations and negative things happening to you and it's your fault because you're putting in a situation.
For example, miss, I like to go to the club when I got a man.
So you at the club with your man, your man, your man.
And then a nigga follows you in the bathroom and rapes you.
Oh no.
It's your fault.
That's not the same, baby girl.
Yeah, like you're not.
That don't even equate, honey.
That don't even equate.
You went to the party because you wanted to go to the party for what?
Attention or for example to see a guy?
Let's talk about the club.
You can't go to the party for fun.
Even that environment.
That's what I was trying to say earlier.
There is a difference between someone who's grabbing a chest and someone who is bold and brazen enough to put their hands between the legs of a woman and go like that.
That's insane.
That is an insane thing to think is appropriate for anyone.
In any situation.
I wasn't a part of the locker room talk.
I only heard the segment that Donald Trump was recorded.
You didn't even hear the whole thing.
Exactly.
You didn't hear the full thing.
No, I heard what was posted online.
Bro.
In context, you have to understand the whole scenario.
This is why you're jumping the gun all the way.
Listen, I understand.
Didn't everyone only hear what was posted online?
Y'all was at the locker room because I only heard the little snippet too.
Do you know it was the actual show?
So there's more than like the 30 second snippet?
It's always more.
It's always more.
The point is, I understand it sounds crazy, but at face value, what nigga calls to a chick and says, give me the pussy and grabs it?
Yeah, that's insane.
Which is exactly the argument here.
Privileged white man.
Huh?
Privileged whiteness.
I mean, what is the context where it's not insane?
And again, let's say that is the case.
It is literal and it actually does happen.
If the girl doesn't like it, hey, police, walk away.
Yes, you just assaulted someone.
You put their hands between the lenses.
But he's saying with status, some women will say, you know what?
I like this guy.
I want to go to bed with him.
I'll take it.
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
That's very sad.
Y'all gave too much context.
You're telling me that there's an entire TV show where his statement has context.
There's the actual show he was on and it was being recorded and that was a snippet of what happened.
It was a longer show.
And the whole show, he said that when the cameras were on him and he knew he was being recorded.
There's talks behind scenes.
He knew he was being recorded.
Yes or no?
I think like a studio or like a...
He got caught in a hot I heard what was said.
That's the locker room talk.
There's no other context to be had.
He's with his boys just talking to shit and you heard a snippet of it in the full context.
So you don't even know why he said what he said.
That's the point here.
But you're assuming off of a clip.
Oh, he means this.
You don't even know.
You're not that guy.
You're going to be single if you follow that advice.
Trump is a baller.
He can do whatever he wants.
That's pretty much what he's saying.
We're just saying some women ultimately...
We're saying some women...
Women love it, though.
In a certain environment with a level of guy that has status, oh, he's cool, alright, I like him, it's a wrap.
We don't condone SA, but sometimes we do.
No, no, we're saying women like SA, some women do, and it's true.
It's not SA if you like it.
You said it yourself.
From my boyfriend, not a random person in...
That's the point!
If Donald Trump is going to be a random person walking into whatever club...
If she likes Donald Trump, then it's okay!
Because she likes it!
That's the whole point.
That's insane.
What they're doing is they're assuming that all the women around Donald Trump like him.
That's what's happening right now.
Yeah, and that's not true.
They do.
That's not true.
They do.
He's a total catch.
He's handsome.
He's rich.
He's powerful.
No, it's not.
I'm actually...
I am trying to interpret what you're saying.
You're dating a Jew.
Next.
Next.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no.
No, no.
Yo, yo, yo.
Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo.
He's been rumpy the whole time.
Like, are you okay?
No, he's been rumpy too.
You're like, oh my gosh, I don't date a guy because he's ass.
Listen, it's what it is, man.
I mean, you're speaking like you know me and you simply just don't, so I'm not going to have a conversation with you.
What you've got to understand, because you're trying to attribute the action as being sexual assault, what I'm saying is that the action is a sexual assault depending on the individual.
Some actions, though, might be constituted as sexual assault.
If it's the correct individual with the correct woman, it's not going to be constituted as that.
But what you're trying to say is, grab me by the pussy, it's always sexual assault.
And I'm telling you, that's not true.
That's it.
I think, Myron, what we're saying is that our position is the context in which he said it makes it a sexual assault because he made it seem like he could just walk up to random bitches.
But it's not a sexual assault if the girl likes it.
She's trying to say, I'm that fucking guy.
Girls like me.
I can do it.
How is he going to figure that out until after the fact?
Because women give signs.
Yeah, pretty much.
And when you reach a certain level of celebrity, girls are sluts and they don't give a fuck.
But you don't understand that because you're a female.
You don't understand what it takes to be attractive as a man.
You don't see the signs.
You don't know how women react to men that have social status.
You don't know how women react to men that have money because you're with a guy that's, no offense, probably fairly marshmallow, fairly nice, which is why you guys have the relationship that you have.
But women in general want dominant men that are ground by the pussy, that are aggressive during sex, that they can go ahead and be like, damn, this guy's taking it.
You cannot attribute your...
Sex life, how you perceive your manner and what you're attracted to, to a majority of women, because a majority of women want an aggressive, dominant man that takes what he wants from his girl.
When you give the context of reading the signs, I understand that now, but I feel like you don't know how to speak to women sometimes.
Which is sad because I agree with a lot of the tenets of this podcast.
I really respect this podcast, but there's such frustration, I feel, from your end.
It's not about frustration.
Do you understand that if I walk up...
Let's say we take a different guy, but they say the same exact thing.
Hey, Becky, you're looking fucking good tonight.
Yeah, girl.
One girl, right, might be like, damn, I like that.
But if I'm not the right guy, she'll be like, oh, that's sexual harassment.
So what I'm trying to say is this.
It doesn't matter what you say.
What matters is, who are you?
That's what matters.
That's why women love assholes, but they don't like nice guys.
Nice guys are really nice, but they don't get laid.
Assholes, nice ass, woo, okay.
But if I was a fucking loser and I said, nice ass, sexual harassment, I get that, but when you have so many people watching this, there's going to be people, like, there's going to be men who really think they're that guy who can go into the club and start touching women.
These fucking losers that watch this shit don't think that.
These niggas are fucking losers.
The point I'm trying to make is that, see, this is what I mean when I say women don't know anything about attraction or how, what women are actually attracted to.
No, you don't, because I literally just explained it to you.
Yeah, you don't know.
Two men do the same exact action.
One individual is considered a sexual deviant.
The other guy is considered super hot and attractive.
This is where, like...
You and I find common ground.
If you would have some semblance of having a civil conversation rather than trying to just...
Again, I'm not steamrolling you.
I'm telling you that women respond differently to different men depending on who the individual is.
I agree with that wholeheartedly.
However, the part that I disagree with is just because you are that guy with the structure, with the money, everybody's just not going to be okay with it.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not going to be everybody, but a good amount of women will.
Kat, you've been at celebrity parties too.
You know what it is.
I know.
They want to go.
They want to go.
Yes.
And the whole fluke out culture as well.
Because you've provided the context.
I should not say my names.
Celebrities from parties all the time and things happen.
No girl wants a guy that's going to sit there, do you want to fornicate?
No!
They want a guy that fucking just gets it, can read the signs and escalate properly.
Do you really think I'm in a relationship where my man is not dominant and not a leader and doesn't know how to be sensual?
I mean, kind of based off what you said.
If you're not able to have that kind of relationship, then that's you personally.
I would never speak negatively on that.
I understand women want that man who is a dominant leader.
Majority women do.
Yes, I agree.
I even said earlier in this podcast, I have the kind of relationship where my man takes the lead, and he sets the plans up, and I get to put my feet up and be taken care of, and that's amazing.
If you're guaranteed by the pussy, would you be mad?
Yes, but if he flat on us, I would be into it.
What?
Okay, listen, I would never be...
You're getting upset because of my individual sexual preferences.
If anyone, my boyfriend, if my boyfriend went to me and put his hands between my legs and went like that, that would be insane.
But if he was being playful...
No, it's not.
That's what you as a man think.
That's insane.
That's why you're leading some guys astray.
You're leading some guys astray and they're not going to get it.
But if my man is playful and maybe I'm cooking him a little dinner or something and I'm looking cute and he comes up and squeezes my ass or like...
Yes, I'm going to entertain that.
You're leading men astray by getting so into the extreme.
Most women are not going to be okay with going in between.
She does not like her man at all.
You're a dating coach?
This is so fundamental.
You don't realize.
This is really like a quintessential example of why you don't take dating advice from women.
Exactly.
People are having you like a bitch-ass nigga.
Oh, can I touch you?
Is this okay?
Yeah, now, you know what?
You know how somebody say that, Myron?
Because I hate for someone to ask me.
You want me to touch you?
I want you to touch me.
Don't touch my ass.
Body language cues.
I never said anything about, you want me to be a certain way so bad, and I see it, which is why, I never said anything about Ken.
can I touch you, can I kiss you?
And Aaron, or excuse me, Chris thinks, because I don't want my boyfriend to go like this to my coochie that I inherently don't like him.
Do you know how to have a relationship with a woman?
I don't think you can have a relationship with a woman, and that's tragically sad.
I feel like two things can be right.
Your boyfriend's Jewish?
I would love to know how you think that me not wanting to be groped in that way inherently means I because I know You don't even call them women, you call them girls.
So okay, we'll start there.
Well, first of all, if I'm talking, just don't talk of me.
I'm sorry.
Second of all, if I was to grab my woman who I'm paying for, right?
And you live with me, right?
I don't live with him.
That's right.
You don't fucking deal with him.
I've been in a relationship for seven months.
What am I going to break my lease?
I can't afford that.
Lease?
Fuck the lease.
He's a Jew.
It's really hard to have conversations that are intelligent when you get like this.
I would love to listen from you.
I would love to learn from men.
I would love to learn from men.
I believe in this podcast.
I respect this podcast, but this point of the conversation has been a little frustrating.
You were trolling.
Oh my gosh.
Just because you wouldn't like it by getting grabbed by the pussy doesn't mean that other woman wouldn't like it.
I would argue that if a woman was with a man that she actually liked and respected to a high degree most, they would be okay with a guy grabbing her by the pussy.
I don't think I ever said that.
I get down with the individual.
I understand that.
I feel like you contradicted yourself because Ooh, get on sauce Who made that sound?
I know, because I'm like...
So, the reason why I feel like that is because two things can be right.
However, you did say you wouldn't be okay when I believe you asked for it.
If your man was to...
That's what you guys are saying, right?
Yeah.
But then if he's jokingly slaps you while you're cooking, what makes it?
But why?
It's the same thing.
It's your man.
I can't answer that.
But why does he need permission?
I want to hear what South Dallas got to say.
I can't answer that.
Trump is an alien.
I can't answer that.
It's a soft spot for me.
This is a soft topic for me.
It is for me as well.
And that happened to me, and he did exactly what y'all are saying, like, oh, why wouldn't you be okay with your boyfriend doing it?
It was that setting.
We were arguing, and he decided to do that.
But that makes us different, though.
But he still did it.
But then it changes the tone.
It's the position of it, like the setting of it.
That's basically what you're trying to say.
Which is why I said two things can be right.
So now you contradicted yourself because you recognize the difference between different touches and different contexts.
The reason why I know I'm not contradicting is because you did indeed say that if he was to just grab you by the pussy, you would not be okay with that.
But then if you were kicking romantically and he were to slap you on your butt, you would be okay.
The part that you're missing is the fact that she thinks that the vagina is more intrusive than smacking the ass.
It's very simple to put out.
If you're doing it aggressively, I can understand that.
But if you're doing it because you're my man, or whatever I choose to date, Why is it not okay for you to just touch me?
Because women grab men by the- All the time!
I agree with Kat.
That's knowing your partner.
She's just uncomfortable with it.
You can touch my boys.
You can touch my boys.
I don't like to know what the thing is.
Nick, is it okay to grab my pussy?
- Hey, would you grab your bra by the pussy neck?
- He's a virgin. - Man, he's a virgin.
- Right, I mean, he's a virgin. - Let me make this very cool conversation. - She has a lemon test.
I can't believe that we've even been on this discussion for this long, but it's very simple.
If a girl is with a man that she's truly aroused by, he does it for her, she's her dream man, etc.
And he grabs her by the pussy, you'd be a fucking moron to be like, oh, I'm offended by this because he'll probably look you in the face like, cool, I'm getting rid of you.
She's truly aroused by, he can do anything.
She's just not like that though and that's okay for her.
She might be okay with it.
We're just saying, look, you have your own personal things that you want to say are okay or not okay.
She does too as well.
Some women like that shit.
Bro, if I ever grabbed my girl by the pussy and she said something, she's like, oh, that makes me uncomfortable.
I'd be like, get the fuck out of my house.
I'm never going to talk to her again.
I bust my ass and become successful to grab my chick by the vagina.
She's like, oh, I don't know.
Yeah, because we ain't connected.
Ain't no connected.
She gotta be quiet.
She gotta cook and she gotta clean.
That's a lot.
I work on myself being excellent.
I demand excellence for my girl.
And my thing is, if I can't even grab my girl by the vagina, that means she's not that aroused by me.
I'm not that one!
If I'm not getting it all, I don't want none.
If that's the individual relationship you have with me, then why?
The tone you're hearing it in, it sounds like you're taking it as an aggressive connotation.
I don't think you're taking it as intimacy.
That's my innocence.
I'm sorry I was raised with a certain view of my own body.
That's fine.
But you can't say that she doesn't like that or she doesn't like that.
I mean, it's supposed to mean, like, it's a different kind of touch.
A man who's putting his hand, and I really shouldn't have to explain the anatomy of the human body.
A playful slap of the ass is very different than going up and grabbing someone by her genitalia.
And that's for you, but for her it might be different.
Yeah, and I never argued that individual girls I'd argue amongst girls wouldn't have an issue with it They're not arguing like Because when you're grabbing my ass, you're grabbing my pussy And I guarantee someone with that same mindset Hey man, y'all let my boy Nick tell us if he wants to grab him by the pussy, man Nick, what's that?
Nick, that's disgusting I think that So it sounds like what you're saying is literally Like a rape.
Yes!
But by the way, hang on, hang on.
But I think what we're saying is that that's not what we're talking about.
Sorry that I'm innocent.
Oh my, like if that's what the whole conversation comes down to, then I could have...
Oh, baby!
I don't think it's about anything.
I think he's way more innocent than you are.
You just said you have a different view of your body.
Like, all of us.
That's okay, though.
That's okay, though.
But their point is that some women like that shit.
And some women do.
A lot of women do.
A majority of these.
So what is wrong?
We had this conversation all the time on social media.
Women like to be choked.
Women talk about it all the time.
We can agree to disagree.
I think these people tell us about it.
IRS, let's go.
We're going to be here all night with this one.
I'm not apologizing for my innocence.
No, that's fine.
That's fine.
But that's why none of us would actually date you.
Come on, Nick.
Tell me you don't want to go dive in and see chocolate goodness.
So many queens can choose from on the panel.
Go ahead.
Come to the dark side.
We won't judge you.
Tempting.
I'll be honest.
I think it was virtue signaling for the show.
But that's fine.
We are innocents.
I actually don't know what that is.
I don't.
Don't worry.
I dated a girl who would get her son to look through my phone to see if I was cheating.
Question for the ladies.
Would you get your son to do your messy work for you?
No.
He's a child.
First of all, he shouldn't even know what you got going on.
Been watching both platforms for a while and love the content crossover.
AFXFNF is the best content in YouTube history.
Want to let y'all know for a while that you have LDS, Mormon support.
Shout out to you.
You guys have multiple wives, man.
Shout out to y'all, man.
Real niggas, man.
Love the diverse...
Thank you, sir.
Drop the facts.
Appreciate that.
Shout out to you.
And then we got here, Sam Carter goes, why does Myers support Republicans like Trump who don't want Muslims like his family in America?
And why does the USA economy and black people do better under Democrats than since we are born?
Please show our state credible sources.
Show our state.
You sound like a faggot, bro.
Go watch fucking Young Turks or something like that.
You fucking liberal faggot.
One to three huevos.
Appreciate that.
First question for ladies.
How many baby daddies y'all got and how many are present in the child's life?
One.
I have one.
One.
Zero.
Zero.
One baby daddy.
Yes.
I have one.
Is that a question because we're black?
Black women.
Black women don't have multiple babies.
Everyone is going to be light-skinned in the future.
The BBC is stashing up all the white girls.
Sorry, Nick.
Sorry, Nick.
Not if I can help it.
Stop it.
Shout out to Evanette for hosting Nick on my B-Day.
Nick, would you say that you have a lot of support from a Black slash Hispanic audience?
And if so, how come?
Unfortunately, missed out on the rally tickets to see for myself.
Yeah, Blacks love me because I'm honest.
Blacks love me.
She keeps saying Blacks.
I love them too.
I love them.
Hell, we don't believe you, bro.
How she refers to y'all?
How she refers to Blacks then?
You don't want to hear my second choice.
You should actually do stand-up sometime.
I think she's joking.
Okay.
No.
Do it, Nick.
Do it.
Do it, Nick, so you can get banned again.
Right.
Do it, Nick, so you can get banned again.
Right.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on, you can say it.
I say it?
Come on, man.
I want you to say it.
What you got?
You want me to say it?
Yes!
You can say it!
Is anyone going to hit me if I say it?
No!
Come on, Nick.
What's up?
I'm going to touch him.
No.
I'm going to touch him.
What you get?
All right, nigger.
Oh!
You're a fast cracker.
You're crazy.
You're crazy.
This is fucking awesome!
We're gonna crush the big faggots!
Woo!
Oh yeah, ban them now.
It's okay.
Hi, Nika.
It is amazing to me how a word can get everybody so fucking mad, bro.
Wait, hold on.
We've asked for it.
We didn't ask for it.
You guys asked for it.
I definitely want to know what's on your top because you're going to definitely know what's on mine.
Oh, shit.
I'm just playing.
You want to wife and kids in the future?
Oh my goodness.
Do you say that on your YouTube channel often?
Yeah.
But how do you use it?
How do you use it though?
No, I agree on free speech so then you can not hang out with him.
Damn.
No, free speech is important so you know who not to hang out with.
It's a word.
Yeah, a word.
It's a word.
It's okay if I call you a cracker, right?
No, well, here's the difference.
I'm not saying you can't utter the word, but that's how it is.
I mean, there are words that I won't utter.
Like, I'll say GD instead of goddamn, because I believe that's blasphemy.
But I think it's foolish to say the N-word.
If you're talking about it in a neutral way, I think it's kind of juvenile.
You know, but I'm not talking about like, hey, N. I'm saying like, you know, if you're going to refer to the word, you can't utter the word.
I don't think it makes you a bad person uttering the word.
We don't want to say the word again.
Like in what context you're reading?
That's what I was like.
How you saying it?
How you saying it?
Because you're saying it's neutral.
How would you say it?
Just say it.
I don't want to fucking hear it again.
He said it twice.
We got it.
Like I said, there's a big difference between people get canceled for uttering the word versus directing it at somebody in a hateful way.
Why are you looking at her when you say that?
I'm not looking at the group.
You people are so sensitive.
You people!
I'm being facetious.
You asked for it and gave it to you.
I don't know what you have to do.
What is the point, Myra?
What is the point?
Bro, we're finished, bro.
What's the point?
Why don't you choose this when we come on the podcast?
What's the point, Myri?
Listen, man.
What's the point?
I need to know.
I am not in agreement with this.
What is the point?
Hey, man, I was like, somebody was saying the magic word, bro.
Yeah.
Can you take it off, bro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keep it on.
Keep it on.
Let everybody see.
All right.
Where are we at here?
Where are we at?
I can't really read this shit.
I know.
I can't really see through this fucking thing.
That's what I used to say, too.
That's why they made the holes bigger back in the day.
Stupid.
Stupid.
Where we at here?
Fresh, you guys.
Yeah, there's 50 to Fresh.
Yeah.
Brandon, you'd be in Africa 101 lying right now if we didn't bring you here.
Oh, well, you're welcome.
Get this 50 bucks to Fresh.
Shout out to you, bro.
Section 8 Behavior says, calling it now, this podcast is going to end up in a world star by the end of the show.
I've got a comment.
Oh my God.
Freshers Ball says, name one red flag that turns you on.
Fresh, I want Kiki.
Nick can have the others.
Kiki looks like she can do the guac guac.
10,000.
And I want it done to me.
Shout out to my dog, Big Mo.
Wait, who said that?
Fresh's Balls.
Where is that?
Don't mind that.
Genetic differences are innate.
Everything else aside, why do we always omit the Black family structure from this conversation?
Blacks saw other Blacks into slavery and they were Black slave owners.
We already said that.
Yeah, we did.
Race mixing is fine.
Race mixing is fine as long as she got a fat ass.
Steedsley goes, more education funding will not cure the ales of the underclass.
Go look up the Kansas City experiment in the 90s.
They threw more money per pupil than anywhere else in the country and had bad outcomes.
Fan values first and foremost, not more funding.
Okay.
That is true.
I'm not mad at that.
The nuclear family is a big reason why people fuck up in school.
Lack of nuclear families.
Because if you look at Asians and Nigerians, these people who are successful, they have the nuclear family.
But the black community does not have the nuclear family a lot of times.
Okay, there are whites and Chinese slaves in America.
There were more white slaves in Africa than black ones in North America.
Slaves were everywhere.
Does every slave in the world deserve reparations?
Nope.
I'm a black man.
I'm not a victim.
Get over it.
Anybody have a response to that?
He's saying that reparations are like, you don't deserve reparations.
We don't deserve it.
Because everybody was slaves besides us.
We weren't only slaves.
I think having the mentality of getting through your struggles is better than looking at them as insurmountable obstacles.
It's called healing.
Black women that date out?
Oh, red flag.
Brad can keep that.
When I see a black chick with a white dude, I'd be happy.
I'd be like, alright, that's good.
More white girls for me.
Why is Nick surrounded by the bane of his existence?
Ladies, be honest.
Have you ever told a man it was his pussy while you were giving it to another man?
If so, why?
If not, what made you dedicate it to that one man, bro?
Come on, thanks.
Wait a second.
I'm not surrounded by Jews.
No.
I mean, that's a joke.
I'm kidding.
If you do an IQ test from 1930 and then do one from 2022, you will score the same.
If a Ugandan developed an IQ test, would Russians score the same as Italians on that test?
Tests have a design flaw as depends on a tester's definition of intelligence.
It's not true.
I see what he's getting at.
Why is that not true?
Because with IQ tests, they do it so there's no cultural bias.
Some IQ tests they administer, there's not even words or letters.
It's a lot of pattern recognition and stuff like that.
So even if you don't speak the language, you'll be able to take it.
And the questions that are rated the most culturally biased have the least disparity between the races on them.
In other words, so even if you were to say, oh, it's culturally biased...
The respondents rate the questions that are most culturally biased.
There's not even a difference between the black and white scores.
What's the lowest IQ race?
It's probably aboriginals in Australia.
Oh, wow.
Poor black.
Okay, we got Eli from Jersey says, Chick in the blue, black people have been here in America before slavery.
Christopher Columbus said that.
I also talked about how Christopher Columbus came over here and took these Native Americans lean as well.
Dumbass nigga.
Mercy never heard of it.
Watch it.
Watch Idiocracy.
Okay.
Is that a movie or some shit?
I guess that's a statement.
Oh.
He's thinking of the official fandom that said I am dumb.
Oh, shit.
He goes...
Nothing's doing that to you.
That's kind of funny, though.
You got to do that.
That is funny as shit, actually.
He made a whole account and put I am dumb.
I know.
I love it.
In 2010, the study was done on variability of frontal...
Frontal and temporal brain structure.
The conclusion showed differences in multiple sectors of the brain based on race.
Studies have been done on this.
What do the differences mean?
What is the interpretation of the differences?
Thank you for putting in all that work.
I appreciate you.
Shout out to that.
No, nothing.
That's just a statement.
He literally cited where the study was in 2010.
Study done on...
It wasn't what it was on, but not where it was from.
I don't know who's writing this, but the title of this, frontotemporal, so we have the front and we have the temporal region of our If they're saying black people have a bigger or white people have a smaller or whatever, what is the outcome of those differences?
You didn't really say that.
You just said they have differences of structure.
Does the structure inherently mean intelligence?
I don't get what you're trying to get at with that.
I mean, if you Google that in 2010, it'll probably come up.
Not many studies probably done on that.
Where else we got here?
Oy, no, where we at?
Oy, the premise is misleading.
You are complaining hard work and IQ. Nigerians, et cetera, who come here are successful because they are hardworking like the African-Americans who are hardworking are also successful.
Okay.
I'm tired of the black African-American blaming all the issues on others.
I'm an African-born who came in the U.S. one year ago from a French-speaking country making six figures.
The difference between us is that you see yourself as a victim, but I see myself as a conqueror.
Fair point.
That's a fair man behind us.
Well, he's arguing your thing because you're saying that you didn't have opportunities or something like that.
We all have options.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Goldie.
All right.
Professor Woudon goes, lady next to mine regurgitated how to analyze and review validity of a study.
Useless and wasn't helpful.
You need to upgrade on your programming.
Anyway, Nick, can your genes change over time?
And over time as a time frame, let's say 150 years.
Thanks, G. Yeah, they can.
To think that I could give you a lecture on how to analyze the validity of a study and overtake the podcast, I'm not going to do that.
All right.
First of all, these people aren't even that smart to understand.
Craig Candor with a picture of a chimpanzee, which is funny.
The Euro-African slave trade didn't start until the 1500s.
By then, Europe had castles and the printing press, while sub-Saharan Africans lived in huts.
If systematic racism is the root issue, why were Blacks developmentally behind before systematic racism was implemented?
We weren't talking about systematic racism in the 1500s and or in Africa.
We're talking about it being embedded.
I know which doesn't really speak to anything that we talked about because I'm talking about African American history and culture not before we got here and what happened before we got here okay I don't feel like I don't know much about the 1500s that's what I'm saying like who fuck knows I'm talking about things that I know of as a black woman I think he's going back to the IQ thing He's saying that if IQ isn't a thing between the races, then why is it that the whites had the printing press and they had all these developments.
Meanwhile, in Africa, they had huts.
That's what he's saying.
Okay.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Oh, I understand what you're saying.
There wasn't white intervention at that point.
Why were they still so...
Oh, why were they in huts?
Yeah, why were they still in a development standpoint?
Whereas the Caucasians had all these things.
I think there was a documentary maybe called Guns and Drums and Steel that kind of touched on isolated populations of groups and how it's like the access to resources.
Not everybody in Africa lives in huts.
Africa is one of the most resource-rich continents in the world.
And especially back then, at that point, everybody was going to Africa to get their resources in there and all that.
So what?
Education, everything.
Well, to be fair, if they're aliens, I mean, they would get outside help, you know?
That's the white people, remember?
Oh, yeah.
Is that what it was?
I mean, white people also don't have history, so...
What did they see specifically?
And what else?
This land is not your land.
What country did they steal?
I mean, I didn't come here willingly.
My parents didn't come here willingly.
Nothing.
Were your parents slaves?
I mean, I didn't say they were.
I said my family didn't come here willingly.
You said your parents?
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm mistakenly.
Okay, cool.
Thank you, Nick.
Or whoever the fuck that was.
So, what's the original country, then?
I don't know where I come from at this point.
I don't live here.
I just told you I resided on earth.
What?
I'm residing on earth.
Do you work?
What?
Yeah, I do.
What do you work?
She's a student.
Do you work?
I go to HBC. That's all I'm going to tell you.
Oh, you go to Flomo?
Do you work though?
Do you have a lot of friends?
Do they all think like you?
I mean, no.
Do you have a friend circle that identifies with you?
I have a good amount of friends, actually.
But I'm asking, this is my question.
No, I'm telling you, like, I have a good amount of friends.
I understand that.
And so when you say these types of things, they be like, yeah, girl.
Yeah, girl.
No, we listen.
Sometimes we look crazy.
But at the same time, like, we listen to, like, what she got to say.
Because sometimes she's got...
Oh, y'all are friends?
Yeah, like, this is my best friend.
Oh, okay.
I'm trying to see, like, if you have people that actually identify.
Because some people are like that.
They're, like, loners.
So I'm just trying to see.
Sometimes I back it up.
But, you know.
She's speaking.
I just believe we're all brainwashed.
That's what I believe.
- One day.
- We're brainwashed.
- She just won.
- Marijuana conversations.
- What are you majoring?
- Psychology.
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Yo, we're fucking doomed, bro.
This is the future of America.
Literally.
No.
These are 20-year-olds.
Y'all won't.
Y'all stay in a prime.
Y'all better respect this queen.
She in a prime.
Howdy, friend.
Howdy, friend Hey, man.
We're doomed.
Alright.
That's your man's?
Of course.
I'm a claimer.
That's my girl.
I'm a claimer.
Alright, let's assume...
Real quick.
Let's assume that we weren't here on this podcast.
What would you two be talking about?
We talk about everything.
It doesn't matter.
We just talk about everything.
What?
Give us an example.
Probably boys.
Boys?
Freaking...
Mammy.
I don't even know.
It's like, what do you and your friends talk about?
Everything, like a topic is brought up.
I mean, I can go ahead and right away.
Geopolitics, girls, making money, success.
Go to the gym.
Athletics, like, geography.
We talk a lot about the ocean and stuff.
Can you name three countries?
Oh yeah, of course.
Go ahead.
Oh, okay.
Wait, I practiced this.
Germany, Italy, and Canada.
Wait, don't tell him you practiced.
No, I was doing the little questions.
I was reading the questions.
No, don't tell me.
I was reading the questions.
What do you guys talk about the most, you two?
You funny.
I want her to name country.
She didn't name country.
I surely did.
Marijuana conversation.
No, I even have this conversation when I'm completely sober.
I just had a headache because I was smoking.
I had a headache that day.
I didn't talk at all.
I'm pretty sure she was sitting right next to you.
Would you agree that women can find a mate even if their IQ is low?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like men like dumb women.
But don't, but don't, yeah, don't be too many things she's dumb and stuff.
She's not actually, like...
No, she's not.
She may say stuff that's like, okay, what is your, like, thought process?
But she's not dumb.
Like, she's a smart girl.
She has shit to back up her, like, fast and stuff.
You can't call her dumb.
What y'all are not thinking about.
Or she'll say something that's at the top of her head.
Sometimes she'll just be talking.
That makes you dumb.
That does not make you dumb.
If you just say things that pop in your head and you don't think twice before you speak, that makes you dumb.
It's not that I don't think about it.
But it's not all the time.
It's not that I don't think about it.
Stop laughing.
Every single thing that you say.
Like, if she says something, you're like, oh, you're dumb.
You thought about that and then you said it.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, because here's the thing.
I listen to it.
I understand it.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, wow, that was dumb.
Okay, yes.
This is an appropriate response.
This is dumb.
Mick.
Yes.
I'm just saying she's not a dumb person.
I just believe there's other stuff in that world.
And he could keep laughing.
If you're laughing, you're worse than that.
I know there's safe spaces and everything else like that, but on this podcast, we tend to be very honest.
And the reality is, is you're pretty dumb.
In reality, you use females as a platform to get money, correct?
In reality, you use females as a platform to get money, right?
No.
I'm telling you, you bring us on a platform and talk badly or not badly in your voice.
This is a good...
In your voice, you're doing what's good for men, but you get paid for having women on the show.
But talk badly about them.
I think what she's trying to say is that without women, you wouldn't have no money, is what she's saying, because you need the women to be on this show.
I mean, where do you get your most views on?
We make money with or without you guys here, because you guys got to understand that the watch time is actually longer on daytime shows, which that makes money as well.
So then I'm also a real estate investor, blah, blah, blah, a bunch of shit.
You still get a portion, right?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But that doesn't refute what I said, that you're dumb.
I'm not dumb.
My value, my personality does not rely on you.
So whatever you're saying has nothing to do with it.
Did you say your reality?
My reality.
I don't live...
I keep telling y'all I'm...
I'm just residing here.
Okay, if you don't live in reality, then you are by definition dumb.
No.
This is thinking by the world, not by the word.
Yeah, Mari.
I keep telling you that.
You know, if I was a guy and I thought the way that you did, I would never make it through life.
Well, this world is brainwashed.
That's all I'm just telling you.
The world is brainwashed.
Yes.
Did you ever just think that you're dumb?
I'm not.
And I'm not going to get mad because you're calling me dumb.
So let me calm down.
No, but you are dumb, though.
Look, look, look.
See, here's the difference between men and women, right?
You think she's dumb, though.
No, no, no, no, no.
I think we got 40,000 people watching that will probably think she was dumb.
Yeah, she is.
My thing is this.
The reality is this, ladies, right?
You got to understand that the world operates a certain way, okay?
And you don't really judge your intelligence or your success or whatever.
Other people typically judge that, right?
So if you say stupid shit and other people are like, damn, in majority, you're dumb, then that's just what it is.
You're dumb, objectively speaking, because a majority of people think that you're dumb.
You're not able to articulate your arguments.
You don't make sense.
You said that white people are UFOs.
Okay, Myron, you can go back in the video because I didn't say they were aliens.
I said in theory.
I keep repeatedly saying that.
Whose theory is it then?
A video.
That was supported by FAT. That was supported by FAT. I understood it enough to bring it up.
But you stated it, which means you adopted it to a degree.
It's a theory.
It might not be yours, but you adopted it, so therefore you are dumb.
Myron, you don't want to meet the South Dallas of me.
That's all I'm going to say.
Damn!
South Dallas.
We not doing that.
Look, look, look.
I don't care where you're from or whatever you're saying.
The reality is, objectively speaking, not only me, but I think the chat here also thinks that you are dumb.
Okay, they didn't say that before you said something.
No, I'm saying you're dumb.
That's fine that you could agree that I'm dumb.
We need to go back to telling people when they're fucking up.
You're dumb.
You need to change the way you feel.
So I could go and say you're ugly.
Stupid.
And it would be fine.
I'm going to say, okay.
You say I'm dumb.
I don't care.
No, but I can objectively say that you're dumb and I think the majority of people think that you're stupid.
I can objectively say that you're ugly.
I think they're both opinions.
They're both opinions.
They're both opinions.
I mean, I can't say that.
But I mean...
No, I mean, it's pretty objective.
You're dumb.
It's pretty objective.
There's a bunch of women that would find me attractive.
I'm sorry.
Anyone at this table finds them attractive?
I don't want to go there.
Oh, okay.
I think it's pretty handsome.
Yeah, we not digging.
I think it's pretty handsome.
So you will go...
Nah, let's not get crazy.
He's not digging.
Okay.
That's my problem.
But I'm not...
No offense.
I'm not even saying anything offensive because I'm a nice-ass person.
Like, in general, I have a good-ass energy.
And she's not dumb.
Like, I'm not...
This is the difference between men and women.
Bro, if I was saying stupid shit like this, y'all would tell me I'm dumb.
You'd be like, nigga, what the fuck?
Actually, this came from a nigga's point of view.
He's dumb too then.
I feel like you could say that she said something dumb.
To overall say that she's a dumb person, that's wild.
She's dumb.
She's dumb, dude.
Why did she not tell people the truth anymore?
You can say she said something dumb.
She makes you dumb.
No, you're not a whole dumb ass person.
Hold on, hold on.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
You want to know how I know she's dumb?
She sneaked pot before coming on a podcast with 40,000 people watching.
I did, and we did too.
Hold on, right?
Knowing, huh, I probably won't be able to have a coherent conversation here.
I'm probably going to say things that don't make sense at all.
Not going to be statistically sound.
I'm not going to be able to speak properly.
I'm going to slur my sentences.
Like, dude, that is stupid for you to put yourself on a platform like that, knowing that there's going to be all these people watching.
Like, that's dumb.
Everything about you is dumb.
One, I have anxiety.
Y'all brought up the topic I started crying on.
Y'all didn't see it.
You've been here before.
I have, and I was quiet, and I was high.
I have anxiety, which is medicated.
Just hold the L. Nobody cares.
Oh, I do.
Thank you very much.
I'm trying to save you here.
I'm trying to save me.
I mean, bro, if you have anxiety, that doesn't change that you're still done with anxiety.
Wait, wait, wait.
Thank you.
Holy shit.
Even when you're saying you're calling her dumb though, right?
If y'all were better friends, y'all would tell her she's dumb.
I'm a very good friend of her.
If she says some dumb things, I'd be like, okay, Steph, that was like out of pocket.
I'm going to let her speak.
You are single, right?
And your sister has been single, but what, two weeks?
Like prior?
What does that have to do with anything?
What does that have to do with anything?
Why?
Chris.
There's a difference between men and women.
Like, bro, if I was bringing my buddy on a podcast and I knew that, yo, this is going to be mad people watching, all this other shit, I'd be like, bro, you probably should have smoked pot, you sound retarded when you talk.
I want to bring in my blood, whatever.
Or I'd be like, yo, don't smoke, whatever.
Men tell each other the truth.
Women don't.
Like, yo, your friend is a retard.
I'm not going to stop.
Please don't.
She's dumb!
No, she's not.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Because here's never two men and women.
If you had told her prior, you're fucking dumb, you need to fix yourself, she would fix herself and not embarrass herself in front of almost 50,000 people.
She's not dumb.
That's your opinion.
That's your opinion.
Alright, you know what?
Chat, give me ones in the chat if she's retarded, bro.
Who cares what the chat says either?
It's so sad.
I'm saying, like, you're sitting here calling her dumb.
Obviously, she's not fucking dumb.
She is.
She's not.
so yo yo Mark can I unleash an impression no man it's just no because yo this is fucking comedy like yo this is Dirty Better Women like yo if y'all were honest or a bunch of ones look at this yo yo yo I can't even see like yo come on man 36k people watching us live right now I'm just saying.
I know her, y'all don't.
Y'all just seen Clippers.
She's not dumb.
What does me being single have to do with anything?
Because you're single.
So?
I'm single for a reason and for a choice.
Because I don't want a man.
I don't think nobody deserves me right now.
Thank you.
Your friend isn't dumb, right?
No, I don't think so.
So stop while you're arguing.
Why are you arguing?
Okay.
I'll stop.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Goddamn.
Go back, Fresh.
Her friend is dumb, nigga.
Her friend is dumb, nigga.
This is crazy, bro.
I know how you're going, Bob.
No, no.
I mean to her, she isn't.
So I'm just saying why are you arguing?
No, no, no, no.
She knows deep down her friend is dumb.
She just doesn't want to acknowledge it publicly.
She doesn't want to be a bad friend in public.
But if you had been a better friend in the beginning, you're dumb.
You need to fix yourself.
She wouldn't be in a situation with 40,000 people watching.
Can we just move on?
We don't have to sit here and talk shit about her.
We don't.
It's a podcast.
Fuck what you think.
I understand that.
I'm just saying.
We don't have to do that.
No, I'm just saying, bro.
This shit is crazy.
This shit is crazy.
Hey, that's a fresh.
I don't give a fuck, man.
Of course you don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
TJ King.
Some of them have played so much that they become born-again clown world.
Yeah.
Next one, Chris.
My goodness, bro.
Fresh.
Come on, man.
What?
You are nice, I'm not, alright?
I will tell these girls the truth.
Because at the end of the day, they come here, they sound stupid as fuck.
Okay.
Alright, cool.
Nigga, you invited them, bro.
Yo, yo, yo.
French, you're right.
Sorry.
Alright, go ahead.
Fresh and Fair are so freaking real for this.
Class ladies, tonight.
Cheers.
Oh, cheers.
Oh my goodness, bro.
I think she takes the award.
Yeah, she does.
Dumbest girl we've had on the show.
I'm going to give her a Donna Mark.
Hey, yo.
Donna Mark.
Hey.
Nigga, are we going to forget?
Like, are we going to...
Move past the fact that she said all white people are UFOs?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
She did to herself, but she said in theory.
But ultimately speaking, she shouldn't have said that.
Why are we putting African one blocks?
Somali was never enslaved.
100% Muslim.
We don't have a mindset.
Europe depends on Africa.
Nick, talk about foreign aid, coop, anti-pan Africa.
If you're a black Christian, you have a real short-term memory.
Chris Rock.
Well, I mean, Somalia is just a dump right now.
If anybody wants to go to Somalia, I don't know if anybody's really signing up for that these days.
And as far as blacks and Christianity, I mean, Christianity is the truth, whether you're, you know, black, white, red, brown.
And Jesus belongs to all of us, not just, you know, whites or blacks, for that matter.
All right, Key Chaser.
Black and white are social statuses in the eyes of the U.S. corporations.
First class, second class citizens.
Human beings are not colors.
They come from nations and have nationalities.
And then last one here, Chris.
Yeah.
Proverbs.
Actually, you know what?
You should read this one.
It's a Bible verse.
May?
Yeah, frequently.
Warnings of an adulterous woman.
She is unruly, defiant.
Her feet never stay at home.
Stop calling men insecure.
For you being adulterous, the difference between adulterous women and wives is evident on this panel.
Like we said earlier, why are you going to the club if you've got a man at home?
Okay.
And the last one, sir?
No, no, no.
They're still going to go to the club.
They're going to say their friend is smart when she's retarded.
They don't give a fuck about what we're saying.
Trump is too dumb to be compared to Hitler.
At least Hitler had a military mind.
Also, your Hitler theories are trash.
Please get me on to debate this.
Y'all are sitting in some BS echo chamber.
It's not true.
Trump's a genius.
Okay.
Oy vey, the six gorillion don't deny the holobunga.
What?
It's just autism.
I'm always amazed how Nazi supporters of communism still exist in 2023.
I think it's how regular people need to find a final solution for this problem.
Yeah, let's exterminate them.
What is the final solution?
Chris, we're going 50 up, right?
Alien girl is stupid.
whites are not aliens there are real articles yeah you even laughing stop I'm telling you she don't I'm laughing at his response not the first time stop I'm laughing because his comments are stupid because your friends are stupid She's more logically sound, bro.
I'm telling you, she just didn't want to make her look bad.
She's laughing right now!
She get broke!
Come on!
Come on!
He's not going to be friends.
Yeah, that's my girl all the way.
You're our best friend.
What's that Drake song?
No new friends.
Okay.
No, how does Stango?
When you got friends like that, who needs enemies?
Stango M. Love Nick at FNF. In the first part of Hitler's reign, he was successful, but what Hitler did is literally what abortion is today, except at a younger stage.
I'm hisp2, which means Hispanic.
Bring up your IQ. Abortion at a younger stage.
Bender, 50 bucks.
Some women will use retroactive consent after a one-night stand if they ever regret the next day.
Yeah, that's true.
That can be problematic.
Destiny Curtin says...
We never debated that.
What's that thought?
White boy, thank you for the history lesson.
33-year-old Smurf, if you're not married yet, when would you like to be?
And sadly, time is ticking, Mama.
I wish you the best of luck.
Bahar your ass up, Myron.
And fresh God bless, Mo.
Is he talking to me?
They're so dumb.
Y'all realize there's three of us on this panel that's 33?
Stupid motherfuckers.
I'm only one 33 sitting here.
Blackest Panther, our lady is also going to acknowledge the atrocities committed by Japan during World War II, which were arguably as bad as Hitler, i.e.
Nanking.
Nah, we don't give a fuck because we ain't here about it in school.
Next.
I mean, we song Japan.
I don't know anything about that.
No, I do.
Lashing Iceman says Hitler was on meth most of the time.
Have Nick named three good things you can attribute to Hitler directly during the rise of Germany.
Then fact check dude's a total clown.
Don't fall for it y'all.
You named a bunch actually.
HK says, the hole next to Myron is still triggered when Myron and Nick talk about her Jew-ass boyfriend.
Haha, again.
Oh, wow.
Do you want to take that from him?
I actually went to his little history lesson.
I'll take that from him.
Angry Like a Leprechaun says, Fred Lutcher, a gas chamber execution expert, investigated the camps and said no mass gasings took place.
Jeremy Rudolph, a chemist, took forensic samples and came to the same conclusion.
Damn.
Alright.
For Robert Kelly...
To the woman in blue, if you can change your gender, then by your own logic, you can change your race.
Myra, ask them if you can change your race.
Gender is biological.
Race is a social construct.
Anything for that, Phantom?
Yeah, I don't take up for trannies.
I don't give a fuck.
Again, my disposition is I'm for equal rights.
I think that everybody should have the same rights and do the same things.
However, they need their own category, and I'll stand on that.
Okay.
Tony Banz, thank you for all the value you bring to men.
You guys are an inspiration to me.
100.
Keep doing what you do.
Like the damn video.
Thank you, bro.
TC Top Cat says, this behavior has been observed in nature, where an animal behaves like the opposite gender, even trying to mate.
So it's natural in that sense, Nick.
Y'all should get some smart people with opinion views on it.
Okay.
Now to 2.0 says, people with anorexia believe and see themselves as fat even though they're skinny and starve themselves.
Transgenderism is the same.
Mental illness, yet we enable trans but not anorexia.
Sean Afong says, name their countries before puking them boys brainwashing please.
North Korea, Afghanistan, Cuba.
Wait, wait, what?
Okay.
Three countries.
Hey y'all, I made my friend leave.
I want her to name three countries.
That would be funny.
Italy, France, China.
Okay.
Oh, we're all naming three countries.
That's it.
Yep.
Oh my God.
You got this.
Go ahead, Goyne.
Germany, Bolivia, and Nicaragua.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's go Turkey, Paraguay, and Uganda.
All right.
Brazil, Chad, and Nigeria.
Mexico, Haiti, Dominican Republic.
Simple.
Damn, if we had that girl there, we would have been fucking...
Man, I kept trying to get y'all.
I kept trying to tell y'all to answer.
Don't play her.
She would have been on her.
She would have said Mars, Jupiter.
Yeah, Mars, Jupiter.
Man, I knew it was going to be good.
Nick Fletts is the most uninteresting, unintelligent, degenerate, low IQ guest FNF ever had.
He's not as smart as he thinks he is.
He's a troll that no one should take seriously.
Damn.
Damn.
He's on your ass, bro.
Is he a Jew?
Probably.
He sounds like a dreidel-spinning faggot.
Damn!
TJ Sotomayor.
Shout out to you, bro.
Stop letting pro-black women on or women who wear other people's hair on their head talk.
I need to be there, bro.
Tommy said I'm like, oh, shout out to you, Tommy Mac.
You should have been here, bro.
I told you, man.
Oh, that's Tommy Mac, the one that the homegirls stole off on?
Yeah.
Tommy Mac, I'll smack you in your mouth, bro.
No, no, no, no.
Please don't.
Don't fucking play with me, bro.
You gonna make fun of you, bro.
We can definitely sit next to each other.
He hits back though.
Y'all know something crazy when that whole thing happened?
Y'all know, even though I tell y'all all the time, my guy friends hate y'all and shit like that, everybody thought it was me.
Because that's when I first started coming.
It was like, yo, a nigga hit you.
I'm like, no.
It was like, oh, we just heard that a nigga got into a fight with a black girl on that show.
We just thought it was you.
I said, nah, nah, nah, y'all.
Ain't nobody gonna play with me like that.
I don't know what the heck going on, but ain't nobody gonna play with me like that.
Those guy friends, you banged them?
No.
No, so you got a bunch of simps that ride for you.
Fantastic.
And they will come with the blickies.
I don't play.
I definitely got some people that don't play about me.
Yeah, well.
Yeah, simps.
Yeah, they're fennigs.
Willing to go to jail for a chick that don't even suck their dick, man.
That shit crazy.
Yo, Kat.
I love my wife.
And Chris, fuck you.
All right.
If someone conquers you, you have no rights or freedom.
The blacks should be grateful that we are free because the U.S. didn't have to.
But if you don't have power, who cares if it is?
Wow.
These niggas, man.
Wow.
Sean's a rumble, man.
Can some tell the black lady next to Myra that the Lord did not want Israel to ever mix with another niggas?
Because it caused a confusion.
Look at where we are now.
You have anything you want to say back to them?
That being the Old Testament or the New Testament.
I think that's the Old Testament.
All right.
Okay.
Oh, sorry.
Nick would know.
True.
Old Testament.
Yeah, don't play with me, bitch.
I'm on my Bible.
All right.
We're almost done here.
Where we at here?
We got, speaking of redlining, I'm in mortgage and most of the people I help are non-white.
I've had three people in the last month tell me they don't work with me because I'm white.
Phil's Batman, W. Shell, much love.
Damn.
Oh, damn, bro.
Can someone tell me the lady, can someone tell the lady next to Maya that the Lord did not, oh, we got that one before.
I think you said it twice.
You just want to remind you not to.
The ironic part of racists would have resolved all of these issues via simple segregation.
Unfortunately, dumb boys have other plans and they didn't include racial harmony.
Dumb boys.
You have anything you want to say about that?
It's true.
No two brains are the same.
Numerous studies have shown they are similar to fingerprints in a sense.
No one is the same.
MRI has proved this.
Look up the Zurch study in 2018.
I was like, nobody said that.
Whittler goes, doesn't this panel prove the difference in IQ between blacks and whites?
Nick, the realest nigga in the game.
All right.
DogshitPoster69 goes, question for ladies.
If I got kicked out of 109 bars, am I the problem or all 109 bars the problem?
Let me ask that question.
What's the problem if you got kicked out of 109 bars?
You are my friend.
What about you?
I mean, 109 bars is crazy, but I would say you're probably the problem.
Okay.
What about you?
Definitely the problem.
All right.
What about you?
He's clearly the problem.
All right.
The problem.
He's a problem.
You guys are all anti-Semites.
What?
No.
That's insane.
You're like discriminated against him.
No, the Jews were kicked out of 109 countries, bro.
That's why.
Did y'all know?
Oh, damn.
That was good.
Part of IQ difference is culture outside.
It's funny to me.
We might get kicked off Rumble 2 now.
A study born in 1986 compared the IQs of black children raised by white parents versus black parents.
Black children raised by white parents had an IQ 30 points higher.
It's true.
Wait, what?
Really?
Well, what they do is they do twin studies and they find that black children raised by whites do have a significantly higher IQ than black children raised by black parents, but they regress to almost exactly the mean when they become adults.
Oh, really?
Which is what you find a lot, yeah.
Damn.
White power for real.
All right.
L. Chris, why do you pick fat chicks early you have an abundance to choose from?
What?
Do y'all have any things that you want to say back to that guy?
No.
He sounds bad.
I don't know who fed up.
Wait, so all of you are in fantastic shape?
Yep.
Oh, nah.
Oh, nah.
I gained girlfriend weight.
Thank you very much.
I gained girlfriend weight and I'm not happy about it.
Shit, I gained weight and I love it.
Well, who?
No.
What were you going to say, Chris?
The hope?
Man, keep it moving, Chris.
Alright, alright.
Just like a drunk.
Question for all.
Do you think you can be born a gay or something that's pushed onto you?
Yes.
Or is it both?
I think it's both.
Do you think you guys were born that way?
I think it can be both.
Maybe you think that somebody might say something and it might push you in a different way.
I don't think everybody is born gay.
But I think majority is just...
At one point, I thought it was just a trend.
You get what I'm saying?
It's something to jump on.
You get what I'm saying?
Because I have a transgender niece, meaning that my nephew is now a woman.
How old?
My nephew has graduated college and is 26.
Okay.
Well, my niece.
I'm sorry, pronouns.
My niece.
Hold on.
What?
It was her nephew, but now it's her niece.
Right.
So now my niece, my nephew, now niece.
So, and that she's been gay and now transgender since I've known.
Why don't you speak up more when we're talking about transgender stuff?
Um...
Because everybody has their own opinion about it.
And I can't...
My thing is I ride for my niece.
You get what I'm saying?
I ain't...
So not like for the whole situation.
I can't...
I can't really...
To me, I really can't Speak on it because whether I like it or not, that's your lifestyle.
That's how you want to live.
That's on you.
So I don't really have much to say about it because it's in my family.
You get what I'm saying?
And it is what it is.
We'll move on here.
Shut up, bitch!
Nigga, I already hit the sound effect, man.
Yeah, I already hit the sound effect.
Hey, same shit.
How much any of you drink, bro?
Barely.
The bottle.
Probably the bottle.
The answer's yes.
Next chat, man.
Sky Chris is lit.
WStream, appreciate that.
We need to check if she has a real master's degree.
You have a master's degree?
Yes.
Pull up a pick of Leah Thomas next to the second and third place winners.
We don't have to do that.
We belabor that.
Do we have to?
I mean, I don't know who Leah Thomas is.
Is that the transgender?
Alright, girls, fresh?
Last thoughts or disagreements?
No, no, fresh?
No?
No, last thoughts, fresh?
Niggas, don't tell me.
It's for them.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I just said.
All right, ladies.
Last thoughts or disagreements on the show?
Or how much you hate Nick?
My friend's smart.
Yeah, I don't appreciate Nick saying the N-word.
Just because, like...
No, because I don't even say it like that.
I don't even say it like that.
I don't say it like that.
We don't say it.
Me personally, like, I don't think that's just cool.
Like, if you want to say it, go ahead and say it.
But you're going to get your ass beat at the end of the day.
Like...
You're going to say it to the wrong person one day, but it's okay.
First of all, Nick is smart enough to know that he can only say it in certain settings.
I get that you guys are in your feelings right now, but you've got to understand that we live in the United States and Free speech is a thing.
That's what sets us apart from other countries.
You know the part about free speech that people love to disregard?
Selective as fuck.
Freedom of consequence.
Yeah, the consequences.
We all have choices.
He definitely knows.
He's not walking down the street saying the N-word.
Wouldn't it be ridiculous for you to physically attack someone because they say something?
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
I agree.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah.
But if somebody feels like attacking you because you disrespected them, they also have the right to do that as well, whether it's right or wrong.
No, because they're going to go to jail.
He has the right to say whatever he wants, but the thing is that if he says it, He shouldn't be attacked for it physically.
He should not, but if that's the consequences that come with it, it's like if I went and robbed the bank and I didn't get caught, I didn't get caught.
Well, there's a difference.
One's protected by the First Amendment, the other one isn't.
Right.
No, again, I understand what you're saying.
And again, he can absolutely say what he does.
It was 100% lawful for him to say that, but it's not 100% lawful for someone to attack him.
But a consequence is a consequence, honey.
Okay, and that person's going to go to prison.
Everybody got to accept the law.
See, see, this is, I hate to say this, this is a nigga mentality.
He's not breaking the law, but you guys immediately say, well, now it's okay to break the law even though he's not breaking the law.
I didn't say that earlier.
What I said was, it's okay for him to do what he wants, but it's also okay if somebody Wants to attack him.
No, it's not okay because it's illegal.
It is okay because if that's what they want to do, people can do what they want to do.
No, this is what I mean when I say people are so stupid.
He has a First Amendment right, not a privilege, a right to say what he wants.
You do not have a right to attack someone who's picking free.
I agree.
I agree.
I'm not saying that it's right at all.
I'm just saying, people, we all have the right to do what the fuck we want.
So you don't.
He has the right to do that and it's legal.
If I want to go do anything that I want to do, I think I'll do it.
Whether it's legal or illegal, I still have the right.
But you understand the consequences.
Exactly.
Life is about choices.
You're not going to sit here and tell me that just because I choose to do something illegal, that it's wrong.
I mean, it's wrong, but...
I didn't say it was right.
If I did, I misspoke.
I promise.
I didn't mean that it was right.
But if somebody decides to attack him because of what he said, then that's okay.
Let's rephrase it.
So ultimately, he can say whatever he wants to say.
But if someone attacks him, that's a problem, but it's still wrong.
Yes, that's literally what I'm saying.
But it's not wrong for him to say what he wants.
Yeah, he can say whatever he wants.
I said he can say whatever he wants.
I said that.
They're trying to conflate a First Amendment right to someone being an idiot and breaking the law in response to him exercising his right.
Again, Myron, I didn't say it was the same, but again, if they choose to do that, they just choose to do that.
I'm saying it's a choice.
They're stupid as fuck.
I didn't say that they're not.
They're stupid.
If somebody comes and attacks him because he said, yes, Catherine thinks that that's stupid.
But again, just like he decided to say because he wanted to, they decided to punch him in the face because they wanted to.
That's all I'm saying.
And I understand on that.
Why are you even bringing it up?
I was trying to conflate A right to breaking the law.
That's illegal.
She just said there's consequences to your actions.
That was just her point.
We're just saying it's not right.
I said it's not right.
I didn't say it was right if he were to get hit.
I said it's a choice.
I said it's a choice.
I didn't say it was right.
It's a choice to be in jail.
Okay, this is a...
I enjoyed it.
Life's about choices.
I mean, life's about choices at the end of the day.
I ain't gonna lie.
Y'all just gave some nigga responses to a First Amendment right.
Nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.
I'm not walking around smacking white people.
I grew up in bumblefuck Indiana, bro.
Like, the fucking KKK was started there.
The poll mark lives there.
Like, I understand what happens right here.
That's why I don't care if white people say the N-word.
Now, mind you, Nick ain't gonna keep saying it in front of me, but he does have the right to say it.
And if I wanted to smack Nick, I could.
You want to go to jail?
Yes, sure.
But again, that's my choice.
If I want to go to jail for smacking somebody, let me go to jail for smacking somebody.
That's all I ask.
Him just saying the word doesn't offend me at all.
It's in the way of content.
If he says, you black, then we got a problem.
But he didn't say that shit.
Then I said, I thought you was my nigga.
But if he wanted to, you could.
This is an ass-line argument.
Watch this shit back and you're going to see what the fuck was I saying?
You're trying to compare his First Amendment right to a violent retaliation and breaking the wall.
I didn't say it was right though, Myron.
You act like I said it was okay.
I never said it was okay.
But that's what people do because people are stupid because they do shit like that.
And you just acquitted yourself to a stupid person.
No, I didn't because I literally just said that I wouldn't do it.
I literally said I wouldn't do it, but we know that people do stuff like that.
So I'm not going to not say it.
This proves my point that women are ruled by their emotions.
Literally ruled by their emotions.
This is wild.
Alright.
What was next?
Yeah.
Shit.
Wow.
So you were triggered by him saying the N word.
I wasn't triggered.
I just didn't like it.
I just didn't like it.
And I'm just saying I didn't like it.
That's it.
I'm not triggered.
I'm not acting out or anything.
I just didn't like it.
I don't like that shit.
I don't let people say that shit around me.
So is she wrong for not liking that he said it?
I just don't like that he said that.
That's fine.
He can say what he wants.
All I said was I don't like that he said that.
Got it.
That's it.
Especially with a hard R. That's weird as fuck, but cool.
You can say what you want to say.
I mean, the first time he said it was a hard R, then the second time he said it, it was like an A. Yeah, because she said, you're my nigga, and I was like, yeah, hell yeah.
But man, as a human being, you are 100% in control of your emotions, and words are just words, and the fact that you guys get triggered, I mean...
I'm not triggered, though.
I mean...
He wasn't mighty triggers, though, man.
You need to bring it up an hour plus later.
He's the first white man outside.
That was a disagreement.
Myron!
What was kind of triggering?
Disagreement with someone's first amendment right.
Okay.
Cool.
Yo, bruh.
Myron.
Yeah, that whole...
This panel don't deserve last thoughts.
Holy shit, dude.
Holy shit.
Goddamn.
I mean, here's the thing.
They're fresh.
They've been called fresh.
Why?
Why we don't deserve it?
No, no.
Fresh.
They've been called fresh.
There's a book called White Women Deserve Less.
I see why, you know.
Alright, let's move on.
Hey!
Hey!
There it is!
Alright, anything?
Okay, you disagree with the N-word.
Anything else?
Anybody got some?
Like closing thoughts?
Yeah.
Disagreements, I guess.
Besides him saying her.
I mean, it's been four hours.
No, no, no!
Fuck that!
Five hours!
Let's go!
Every time I've came on the show, this is my third time coming.
I've enjoyed myself.
I've enjoyed the conversation.
It's always just a conversation.
I've always gained a perspective.
And I'm glad that I met you, Nick.
And I'm glad that we were able to share space.
And I'm glad that I was able to share space with all you ladies.
What was kind of triggering was the sheet over your face.
But then, you know, I just kind of like, but that was it.
I mean, yeah, you know, because I'm an emotional being and you're not, you're more logical than I am.
And that's okay.
We have our differences and that's fine.
Anybody else?
Well, I'll say something.
I thought it was good.
I thought we had a good conversation and...
And white power?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I mean...
Hey, that's half of y'all race, man!
Come on!
That's half of y'all race.
Vote for the white set.
You're talking about white power and white people don't accept us, though.
We're not white, though.
No, because if we say we're white, we're not white.
White people don't accept us.
We grew up in a very, very racist house.
Have y'all tried to date white guys?
I tried in high school.
Yeah, we've tried.
You're telling me Tom said no.
No.
No, that's not true.
I'm not saying I don't accept them.
I just, I have a type.
But, okay, so you don't accept the white people.
It's not that they don't accept you, because y'all are trying to frame it.
White people don't accept us.
No, we're saying, like, where we're from.
It's like we're mixed.
We're half white, half black.
But, like, if we say, if we want to say we're black, who we could be black with, we want to say we're white.
We're not white.
Oh, you're not white?
You got color, so...
First of all, y'all are really good white-black mixes.
Because white-black mixes are kind of a little shaky sometimes.
Y'all can 100% identify as white.
It's not advantageous for you to identify as white.
It's just not accepted.
You guys are like sister-sister, like Twitches.
I think Fresh went to the club.
Alright, the blonde that left must have been huffing space shrooms with what she was saying, bro.
Yeah, that shit was crazy, man.
What's she doing shrooms when men don't like?
No!
She doesn't do it.
We literally just smoked a blunt before we, like, on our way.
What was in her blunt?
It was the same one.
They smoked it.
We all smoked the same thing.
I rolled one wood and we all three smoked it in the car.
You guys have to be careful with cannabis.
No, we're cool.
I'll smoke all day, baby.
I don't care.
Nick's a geek, but we all know these bitches love him for crossing the line and would do anything for someone that confident.
Amen.
America first.
Nick, are you coming in?
They love me because I'm cool.
Transformed athletes are required to have T-levels less than 10 nanomilliliters.
What?
We have too many numbers.
At all.
I don't give a fuck about these trans women, bro.
She's dumb, calling a spade a spade.
Fair enough.
She loves dumb.
Women, objectively, you are stupid as fuck.
Woman.
Oh, okay.
Stupid surrounded by stupid friends.
You have anything you want to say back to her?
Oh, that's a chick saying that.
You have anything you want to say back to her?
You sound bored.
You sound bored and dumb.
Okay.
Thank you.
You sound bored and dumb.
Phil Songo's variability in frontotemporal brain structure, the importance of recruitment of African Americans in...
Neuroscience Research PubMed 2020.
It is genetically environmentally influenced.
Do you have anything you want to say back to that?
That's a study for you to look up.
I think that was the whole title.
Was that the whole title?
Yes, it was.
PubMed.
Last thing, Iceman goes...
No, read that one.
We already read it.
Alright, cool.
Hey Nick, Moon Man here.
Me and Zyklon Ben want to know what your favorite song of ours is.
It's a little before my time I never got into that stuff.
It's just like stupid meme culture from 10 years ago.
All right, so we are good to go.
We're good.
Good luck, Nate.
Bye, Nick.
He's going to be here on Monday, too.
Alright, guys.
Don't forget to check out Nick on Cozy.tv slash Nick.
Check him out over there.
Go support him.
Hell, maybe I'll fucking jump on there with him.
And then also, guys, all the girls' Instagrams are below.
Go send them a dick pic.
I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
We'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh and Fit on Monday with Nick and then probably Sneeko.
We'll catch you guys there.
Peace out.
I ran so far away.
I just ran.
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