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July 1, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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"Jesus" Girl EXPOSED As A HOE & Walks Off...
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We're joined with a bunch of lovely ladies.
Let's get into it, guys.
Let's go.
What's it do?
Who are you carrying it, bro?
go Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
We're back.
We're back.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast after our edition.
Quick now so we get into the show.
Number one, rumble.com slash freshfit, man.
We are making a lot of content that will probably offend some people, man.
We talked with Scott Ritter yesterday about why we really went to war with Iraq.
We talked about geopolitics.
We talked about the Russia-Ukraine war, high IQ conversation.
You guys really enjoyed it, man.
A lot of views.
You guys were killing it.
We had like 15K watching on Rumble yesterday.
And when we had Ryan Dawson, we had another 10K watching when we talked about 9-11 part three.
So go ahead and check that stuff out.
On Rumble, guys.
The unedited stuff.
Because on YouTube, obviously, you can't talk about certain things.
Also, freshfree.locals.com.
Check us out there.
I actually just finished a pre-stream live right before the show.
So if you guys want to see what goes on before the show, check us out over there.
Shout out to her.
And then go ahead and check us out on freshandfitstore.com.
You guys can get all the hoodies and t-shirts and merch you guys come to learn and love.
My favorite shirt.
Chris is a bum because he is.
And then also check out our other YouTube channel called Fresh and Fit Clips, guys.
On there, we post six, seven clips per day.
As well as 10 shorts.
So go check it out over there and get the bite-sized portion of the show if you don't have time to watch a full-on pod.
And then check us out also on Spotify.
If you guys don't have YouTube right, you can listen to the podcast and close it out and still be able to listen to our audio.
And Video Wise Mo's uploading on there every single day.
So you guys can find us wherever.
And then Fresh, you got a vlog, right?
Yes, guys.
For vlogs about networking, business, and obviously lifestyle, go check it out.
We're going to be in Columbia next month as well.
So that'll be recorded on the vlog channel.
And then guys, don't network, man.
All value in there as well.
Go check it out.
Cool.
And check me out, guys, on FedReacts.
You guys know I have a true crime channel.
I break down cases.
I've been covering the YNW Melly case for you guys.
Basically the double homicide of his best friends.
I've been covering the live trial, breaking it down for y'all, explaining what's going on because I know it could be confusing at times.
And then also I'm going to go ahead and drop a new mech next week for you guys.
It's a documentary that explains how...
A certain state, we're on YouTube, stole the nuclear bomb from the United States, was involved in killing John F. Kennedy and RFK Sr.
And then also, guys, I'm working on trying to get RFK in the pod for y'all, so we'll see what happens.
They've been canceling them everywhere because he's been talking about, you know, That allegedly was a virus that killed a lot of people, but yeah, that whole thing.
The truth behind it, of course.
Go ahead and get my book, guys.
Why Women Deserve Less, Amazon Best Seller.
I got a bunch of haters on there from TikTok that went and mass-reported the goddamn book, so I need you to go on there on Amazon and leave it a five-star review because I had a bunch of feminists and libs go on there and report the book.
Yeah, bro, they went in there.
They didn't even verify the purchase, so we're able to rate it one star, so it's really good.
How is that possible?
Yeah, and Amazon, it's one of their weak points with Amazon.
Okay, and Chris?
Yeah, and ladies, DM me to Aaron C. Parkson.
Shout out to the girls on the panel, all new girls.
Hopefully, they can say it throughout the end.
And yeah, if you send me DMs, ladies, make sure you have photos, or if anyone on the team sends you DMs, they'll give them a hard time.
Let's have a great show, ladies.
I will say, good job, Chris.
Okay, let's get the show on the road.
So ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what we do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, we're going to start right here.
Alright, well, hello.
My name is Sarah.
I'm 23.
I'm a financial analyst.
I am from Maryland.
I think that was it.
What part of Maryland?
Southern.
Okay, and you said you're a financial analyst?
Yes.
Highest education level completed?
Bachelor's degree.
Where'd you get it from?
Salisbury University, Maryland.
Okay, cool.
And then relationship status, single?
Single, yeah.
Okay.
We could tell.
What did you major in school?
Finance and accounting.
All right, cool.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Virginia.
I'm 18.
I just graduated high school.
I'm going to be going to college just to get my associates and my relationship status.
Do you work?
No, I quit to be here because I live in North Carolina right now.
Wait, what?
Okay, you're originally from North Carolina?
No, I'm actually from here.
I just move around a lot.
So you went to high school here?
You graduated from here?
No, I graduated in North Carolina, but I grew up here.
I just moved there for the past two years.
I'm writing solo right now.
I'm sorry, what was the other?
What do you do for work?
I quit to be here, but I used to be a waitress.
Okay.
I have so many questions.
You quit your job to come to the podcast?
No, I think she went to Miami.
To visit my family again.
And just because I'm moving back here within a month, I have to situate my car and everything.
So I had to quit.
So, all right.
And then what's your relationship status?
Single.
All right.
Cool.
Are you golf?
I couldn't tell.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Gia.
I'm a waitress.
I'm 21.
Where are you from?
I was born in Miami, but I'm Dominican.
Where did you go to high school?
Miami Springs.
Okay, I'll say you're from here.
What do you do for work?
I'm a waitress.
Okay.
And then highest education level completed?
I study audio engineering.
Oh, do you have like a certificate in it?
Okay.
Alright.
Why don't you do that?
I'm leveling myself up, so I'm working on it.
Okay.
And then what's your relationship status?
I'm single.
All right.
All right.
So you got, what is it, like, audio engineer, you go, like, was it, like, an associate's degree or something like that, or?
Well, I only did a year of school, so I guess you could call it an associate's.
I actually know the school she went to, SAE Institute.
It's more of like a vocational certificate.
It is similar to a degree.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Mariam.
I'm from California.
I study in music industry.
I'm single.
How old are you?
23.
And you said you're from Los Angeles?
California, Sacramento.
Okay, Sacramento.
Do you live here now or are you just visiting?
I live here.
Okay.
And what do you do for work?
Music industry.
I study.
Okay.
What does that mean?
Music industry, like auto engineering, singing.
Okay.
You haven't heard of music industry?
That's very broad.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you do whatever you want with it, but music industry is the major.
Okay, so you're in school.
Yes.
That's your profession.
Yes.
So you're a full-time student.
Okay, so, and you're pursuing your bachelor's degree in that?
Yes.
Okay.
What year are you?
Like junior, senior?
Two.
I'm sorry?
Two.
Oh, sophomore.
All right.
And then what's your relationship status?
Single.
All right.
So you're in college, full-time student, studying music industry.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Cool.
What about you?
Hey, I'm Kelsey.
I'm 21.
I'm from New York, but I live in St.
Pete, Florida now.
You live far, nigga.
I know, I know.
How are you from?
I'm from Long Island, but I did live in Astoria, Queens for a little bit.
I'd say like half and half.
Okay.
As for my relationship status...
Well, what do you do for work first?
Alright, what I do for work.
Alright, so I'm in school full-time.
I'm going for a bachelor's.
I have one more semester.
What are you majoring?
Biomed science.
And then as for work right now, which is paying for school, I do content creation slash...
Just say it!
Just say it!
We know where you're going to be.
It's okay.
Alright, to the mic, to the mic.
We are only fans of all the way.
So, uh, full-time student slash only fans and you're pursuing your bachelor's in, um, what was it again?
Biomed science.
Biomed.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm on my last M right now.
Okay.
And then what's your, in single?
Complicated.
I would say...
I would say situationship.
Complicated.
Told you.
There you go.
Translation.
Either he doesn't want to commit or she doesn't know if he's the right pick right now.
There you go.
It's one of those two, correct?
We're so early.
Do you want to get into it?
I mean, we could get into it during the show then.
That's fine.
Unless you really want to define it.
But I think normally when a girl says it's a situationship, one party doesn't want to commit to the other.
I mean, I feel like it's pretty clear what fucking party that is.
He doesn't want to commit to you?
Or you don't want to commit to him?
Nah, the first one.
Oh, he doesn't want to commit to you?
Yeah.
I wonder why.
Girl, fuck him.
I don't wonder why.
I don't wonder why.
You know why, right?
No, I know why.
Okay, cool.
Why?
I know why.
Why?
All right, I'll tell you.
Because...
She belongs to the streets!
Because I do the little OnlyFans ordeal, and I figure it was vice versa, right?
I figure it was vice versa, okay?
And he did OnlyFans.
I'd be tight as fuck!
Anyways, with that being said, I mean, I couldn't imagine that on the same side, he wouldn't be mad, especially with expectations of men in a relationship and women being so different.
I can imagine he'd be even more mad.
Right?
Alright, so, yeah.
So, would you ever stop for him?
Like, would you ever say, you know what?
I would stop, but as you guys have mentioned in previous videos, the past is the past.
You can't go back on it.
If I could hop in a time machine, I probably would.
But right now, I mean, tits, ass, all over the internet, right?
So, what am I going to do?
Oh, shit.
Alright.
You're right there.
She knows about it, I guess.
Alright, cool.
What about you?
Hi, everyone.
My name is Carla.
I'm an entrepreneur.
I'm from Miami, Florida.
How old are you?
29.
29?
And you're from, you said you're from where in Florida?
I'm here from Miami.
Okay.
I wasn't born here, though.
You said you're an entrepreneur.
What do you do specifically?
I'm in a financial services industry.
I have a credit repair business, and I also do financial consulting.
And what else?
Did I cover everything?
No, I'm just writing it down here.
You said you weren't born here?
No.
So where were you born?
I was born in Honduras.
Cool.
Are you here illegally?
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm a citizen.
I'm a U.S. citizen.
Okay, so you have a financial business where you do credit repair, etc., and consulting.
Okay, what's your highest education number completed?
Bachelor's.
Okay, and what?
English.
I used to be an English teacher.
Really?
Yeah.
Question for you.
Yeah.
You said you're an entrepreneur, right?
Yes.
Can you spell it?
Of course.
Go for it.
E-N-T-R-E-P-R-M-E-U-R. Entrepreneur.
P-R-what?
Sorry?
You said P-R-N? No.
E-Entre-E-N-T-R-E-Preneur.
P-R-E-N-E-U-R. Entrepreneur.
I got lost.
I swore that right.
I think you had it right the first time.
I swore that right.
It's such a long word.
You got to break it up.
Entrepreneur.
Entrepreneur.
Okay.
And then, where did you get your bachelor's from?
Florida State.
Who knows, baby?
Okay.
Alright.
And then, relationship status?
I'm single.
Why do you say so sadly?
She's from Miami.
She lives in Miami.
Did you just break up?
Did you just get out of a relationship?
I haven't been in a relationship for a year now.
I've had situationships, but I don't count those.
Of course you don't.
Translation, had sex with someone.
Okay, sounds good.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Isis.
I'm Dominican, born and raised.
I only have like four years living here in Miami.
How old are you?
19.
Okay.
I go to Miami-Dade at Tech.
Full-time student?
You have a job?
I have a job.
Full-time student, but I do have a job too on the side.
What's your job?
I work at the Marlene Stadium, valet parking.
Okay.
Yeah.
For those that are wondering, that's our baseball team.
I mean, to be honest, I don't drive.
Thank God.
Yeah, I know.
I suck.
But I do, like, customer service movie, something like that.
But, yeah.
Cool.
Did I cover everything?
All right, so you're a college student, but you also work at the Marlins doing valet.
Yeah.
And then you said you're pursuing your bachelor's degree right now?
Yeah, I'm doing vet tech.
Vet tech, okay.
It's a program.
All right.
Miami date and then what's your relationship status?
Single.
Yo, someone said death to America.
They stopped me at the airport when I got here, actually.
Really?
Yeah.
They put me in the little room and they were like, why is your name Isis?
I'm like, I don't know.
That's my mom.
She's outside.
What about you?
My name is Azalea.
I'm 21.
Where are you from?
I'm Puerto Rican and Cuban.
I was born and raised in Miami.
I work at Home Depot.
Oh, shit.
In August, I start school to become an esthetician.
Did you also take a selfie?
Go ahead, ask her.
So there's a viral moment where this girl took a photo of herself wearing Home Depot attire and it went viral.
Did you do the same thing?
No.
No?
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
That was a hack.
You missed out.
I love Home Depot though.
Shout out Home Depot.
Home Depot, what section do you work in?
Okay, so I started as a cashier and then I started working overnight to get more money.
So I work overnight like stocking stuff and stuff like that.
Okay.
I'm not single, but I'm not in a relationship.
That's my boo.
What's your highest education level completed?
High school right now.
Yeah, but I'm starting school in August.
Does he claim you though?
Yes, he does.
So then he's not your...
I don't know what's going on.
He claims her, but she doesn't claim her.
I do, I do.
It's new, it's new.
I'm confused.
So you're together then?
Yeah, we're together.
But you just said you're not.
But he's not.
He hasn't asked me to be his girlfriend yet.
He don't claim you, man.
He does though.
Stop.
He's watching this.
He loves you guys.
Alright, so how long y'all been together?
It's been like three weeks.
Exactly that, yeah.
Three weeks?
I know it.
I've known him for like four years.
Oh, so you got friend-zoned.
No, okay, so...
Alright, so four years ago, I was dating my ex, right?
I was dating my ex, and then we were breaking up, and me and him met, and it was super good, but I was low-key still in love with my ex, so I got back with my ex.
And then I hadn't talked to him in like four years, until like three, four months ago, we started talking, and then...
I don't know, it's been like...
So he was in a friend zone and then he got out of the friend zone.
Does he know your ex?
No.
No?
No.
Okay.
Interesting.
How many fingers am I holding?
Four.
Five.
What was that for us?
Eight.
Okay.
No, because she can't see.
I don't have my glasses on.
He's like, what is he doing?
I'm so confused.
I was like, this is so good.
Ho Depot.
Ho Depot.
Fantastic.
Okay.
What about you?
What's your name?
Hi, my name is Gigi.
I'm 20 years old and I am currently studying to be a surgical...
Where are you from?
I'm from Miami.
I'm from here.
I'm born and raised here.
Do you have a job?
Do you work or...?
I'm a full-time student.
I'm studying to be a surgical technician.
I am single.
You're studying your bachelor's, right?
Correct.
And what's the major?
Is it biology or pre-med or...?
The thing is, the college that I'm going to is just a certification, so you just get a surgical technician license, and then you're eligible to work in a hospital.
So you're pursuing an associate's right now then?
Correct.
Okay.
That's currently what I'm doing.
I'm 20 years old, and I am single.
And body count?
That I choose not to.
You said you're single, by the way?
Yes, I am.
Ready to mingle.
All right.
And then, Chris, we got to, you know, after.
Okay.
What about you?
Hi, everybody.
Sarah.
I am the chosen auntie of the group tonight.
I'm a dating coach.
I'm a content creator and the older sister that you didn't know you needed.
I am from San Diego and I have a master's from Arizona State.
And your age?
38.
Damn!
You look really good for your age.
Gracias.
Mama is sexy.
No wrinkles.
No wrinkles.
Where did you get your masters from again?
Arizona State.
Okay.
Sun Devils, right?
That's right, baby.
Let's go!
And then you said single?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
Cool.
So this is what we're going to do, guys.
It's Friday.
We already got 7,900 of you guys in here between the platforms.
So what I'll do is we're going to read the chats.
Every chat that came through up to this point, I'm going to, you know, obviously show on screen.
However, what we're going to do is we're going to read only 20 up right now.
Then once we hit 10K, we're going to go ahead and read only 50 and up.
So, okay.
We got Jason Love here.
It goes, okay.
Wyatt goes, ladies, what is your backup plan if you can't secure your dream man?
We'll start right here and then work our way back.
What does that mean?
Backup plan?
Like, for what?
You have a guy that's kind of in the cut.
That's not your first choice.
That's there.
It could be a career.
You just stay single.
It could be a career.
It could be by cats.
I don't know.
A dream man, I think.
I don't know if that exists, to be really honest.
You're an ideal guy then.
You're an ideal man.
I would stay single rather than be in a relationship that I wasn't madly in love with a person.
Right now?
Yes.
Cool.
All right, cool.
What about you?
Personally, I don't have a dream man.
I preferably have a dream life, whereas having a dream man, if I don't work out with the person that I'm with, then to each its own and, you know, just keep it pushing, honestly.
Whatever comes to you is come to you, and whatever is meant for you is meant for you, personally.
So you more want a lifestyle than somebody in your life?
Personally, yes.
Okay.
Alright.
So she wants a lifestyle, basically.
I guess being free?
Financially free?
Yeah.
There's a lot of things that you can do for yourself, whereas you can do with a partner beside you.
You don't think that having someone beside you would actually help that experience?
Not true, because a lot of things that another person can offer to you, you can do for yourself.
No, no.
That's not what I'm asking.
I'm just asking, for example, someone next to you with those experiences, wouldn't that be ideal?
That's true.
But the thing is, life takes its course.
And if someone's meant for you, they're going to be there.
They're going to be there for you.
And it's going to be meant for your life.
And whereas if they're not, then they're not.
And it is what it is.
So you're not going to do anything.
You're not going to change anything.
That guy's going to come to you.
Perfect.
Yes, exactly.
I agree.
Lovely.
Okay.
Okay, alright.
Michelle, what about you?
I'm just gonna live my life.
Go Queen.
Fuck these niggas, man.
Manifest.
I'm not perfect.
I'm definitely not perfect, you know, but I'm not gonna be worried about my dream, man.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm gonna live my life, and I'm sure he'll come to me and find me.
Manifest a girl, you got it.
So same thing as her?
He's just gonna show up?
I'm sure so, yeah.
What about you?
He's going to show up at Home Depot.
I mean, me, to be honest, I'm not really, like, centered around a man.
If I don't have a man, it's okay.
If I have one, it's okay, too.
It's okay.
So, what's your backup plan, then, in that case?
What you mean?
If I don't secure my dream man?
Yeah, if you don't secure your dream man, what's your backup plan?
That's what he's saying.
I mean, he was never in the plan.
It's my plan.
You know what I mean?
If you want to be next to me, that's cool, but I'm doing my thing.
You can come along or you cannot be part of it.
Listen, nigga, I'm going to do what I want.
Exactly.
I'm going to do what I want.
What about you?
What do you think?
If I don't secure the man, I'm just going to marry the money, which is what I've done so far.
Yeah, she's 29, so I hope.
Okay.
What would you prefer?
Would you prefer to give up all that money and find the dream guy or have the money?
I've done that in the past and You had the dream guy?
I've given up the money to have the guy and then he just didn't perform.
Who didn't perform?
Him or you?
Him.
In the bedroom or you mean?
No, no, no.
Not in the bedroom, like as a man.
He was not a leader enough or strong enough and so I found myself doing more of what he was supposed to be doing and then I realized that I gave up so much and I got...
Would it be fair to say that wasn't the ideal man then?
For sure.
Because we're asking for the ideal guy that checks those boxes off and doesn't let you lead.
I mean, if that was the case, then I would probably be married, but that wasn't the case.
Okay.
Would you give up your career and the money that you have now to find that ideal guy that is a leader, the provider protector?
If he's going to take care of the house and he's going to take care of me, yeah, I don't see why not.
You would give that up?
I would.
Interesting.
Okay.
What about you?
What are you going to do if your ideal man doesn't?
What's your backup plan?
All right.
So my ideal man, I'll start with that.
He would be...
My bad.
He would be caretaking, dominant, right?
I'd feel very secure.
Anyways, though, I feel like sometimes I'm a little bit all over the place with my hopes and dreams because of what I do, right?
Fuck you.
Anyways, though, like you, I just asked her, would you give it all up?
I'll answer that too.
Yeah, I would.
If I had somebody step in, but I think with what I do, it would make it a little bit more difficult to have somebody that high value, as you guys always speak, step in.
So the backup is rely on your career.
The backup is.
And maybe not OnlyFans, but that's...
The OnlyFans is making all the money right now to pay for the bachelor's that I'm getting.
So I feel like...
Merch.
I would rely on...
Oh, the bachelor's degree.
Okay, okay.
I thought you meant bachelor's.
I mean, OnlyFans isn't forever.
I mean, I'm fucking 21 right now.
So what am I going to do when that's over?
That's not forever.
But hopefully, with getting a biomed science bachelor's, which is a pretty difficult degree, I could figure something out.
One job, one way or another.
What do you want to do with your degree?
I want to do med tech sales.
Okay.
Are you worried that maybe that might come back and impede your ability to close deals?
Yes.
Not even close deals, but to get the job in fucking general.
Once I have the job, I'll close the deals.
But with that, it's a hard degree.
So with that degree, I feel like if you can't do that, even if I was to have to do something lower, I mean, I made my bet I'll lay in it.
You know what I mean?
So it is what it is.
Fair enough.
I'm banking right now, so it'll be okay.
So you are aware of the fact that it might impede your ability to secure the job?
Yeah, but I think as a game of luck, I think there could be a chance that I do achieve that high value.
Yeah, I think I could.
Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
But you would rely on yourself basically as a backup.
Yeah.
What about you?
Hold on.
To respond to your FU comment, your only plan is OnlyFans.
There you go.
Let's go for it.
What about you?
Yo, I can't.
Can I respond to that?
No.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Yo, wait, hold on.
Back up.
Roll it back.
Wait, what did I say my plan was?
Stupid.
No, it's irrelevant though.
It's irrelevant though.
No, it's irrelevant because you're wrong.
You're wrong as fuck.
How am I wrong?
Because you said my only plan is OnlyFans.
I just gave you my plan.
It wasn't that.
And I explained why OnlyFans wouldn't work.
It wouldn't work because once I reach a certain age, no one fucking wants you.
Like you guys always fucking say.
You reach 25, it only goes downhill from there, right?
Can you agree you can't leave videos off the internet forever?
Dude, it's definitely on the internet forever, but can you also believe that it'll affect every job ever, right?
With a very high degree?
I mean, it probably won't.
You don't know this high-value man that you speak of, right?
What about, though?
I'm actually walking into the room and saying, you know what?
Dan, is that your girl?
So I can take it online?
He's going to be like, Dan, that's fucked up.
It's done.
Yeah, but we're not talking about them.
We were just talking about jobs.
We weren't talking about a man.
You just switched it.
We were just talking about jobs.
We were talking about a man.
No, we were talking about jobs.
Some men don't care, though.
Some men don't care.
Somebody who worked in biotech for almost 15 years is going to affect you.
I used to hire, and I was in corporate America for 15 years.
So this is Auntie speaking.
But you know what?
Fuck, Auntie!
It's okay.
You can tell me.
But as the oldest sister, you did make your bed, then you might need to have a backup plan.
Because it might affect you.
What about you?
What about you?
If you don't get your ideal man, what's your backup plan for you?
I believe that I will, as long as you're aligned with God.
I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at you.
What religion do you practice?
I follow Jesus.
Are you aligned with God?
Are you aligned with God right now?
Am I what?
Aligned with God right now.
I got saved two months ago.
So yes, I am getting aligned with God.
That's amazing.
Amazing.
Amen.
So what are you doing to like align with a man of God?
I'm just curious.
You read the Bible.
It says it all in there.
There's power in the Bible.
I used to not believe in it.
But if you're aligned with God, God has a plan for you.
What made you become religious?
I'm not religious.
I'm a follower of Jesus.
Hmm.
Religion and being a follower of Jesus, doing it his way.
Because the Pharisees, they were religious and God rebuked them.
So you have to follow Jesus.
And I encountered Jesus two months ago in my bedroom.
So with the Holy Ghost.
I was alone.
A lot of people encounter Jesus while they're alone.
So you don't identify as Christian or Catholic or anything?
I'm a Christian.
I'm a Christian, but no.
You're not supposed to be branching out.
Jesus doesn't like that.
God doesn't like that.
So there's only one law.
First, you're the guy that was going to be a pastor.
I mean, wouldn't that be defined as religious or no?
Well, in her defense, no, because in this instance, she's just following Christ on her own.
Do you go to church?
Yes.
Okay.
So, let me ask you this, though.
When's the last time you had sex?
Don't care.
Don't care.
No, no, no.
I'm going to tell you, like, probably, like, four or five months ago.
Stop the cow.
Really?
Yeah.
Stop the cow.
But after I got saved, you're not supposed to do that.
I was lost.
You know what I'm saying?
No offense.
You're in the world.
You do that.
But once you get saved, you read the Bible, there's power in it.
So you're telling me you didn't do anything since you got saved?
No, no sir.
Not even masturbation.
Right.
I've been fighting demons, but no masturbation, yes.
I mean, like, no blowjobs?
Listen, man, my name is Lawnmore.
Yeah, thanks.
Okay.
What about you?
What's your backup plan if your ideal man doesn't?
A girlfriend?
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
What's your plan going to be if your ideal man doesn't pick you?
Well, for my future, I look at myself going through everything alone.
I never saw myself with somebody like that, but if it happens, naturally I would want it to occur.
Just pursue my education.
I want to be either a cop or a lawyer, so just continue with that.
Education?
And you said you want to be a police officer or a lawyer?
Because I like criminology, neurology, psychology, all that stuff.
So, just pursue my education.
You have a lot of charisma.
She's smart and she has big boobs.
Period.
Thanks, I agree with myself.
That was sarcasm.
That was okay.
Alright, just to give you a warning, law enforcement, it's not the same as criminology and stuff like that.
I know.
I know they're completely different paths, but I have a passion for both of them.
Like in high school, I would just watch like interrogation videos on replay every day, every day for hours.
But I also like to study psychology, so not sure yet, but I'll make it.
All right.
What about you?
Well, there's too many people in the city, the country, just in general, I feel like, to not find the ideal person for me.
But if that were to happen, I'll just stick with being the cool auntie that takes care of all my nephews and spoils the hell out of everybody.
I'm cool with being the cool auntie.
You know what's funny?
Isn't your name Sarah, too?
It is.
That's the name.
That's the name.
Since we went on this topic, I might as well just ask this anyway.
Alright, when's the last time you smashed...
Keep it a book.
I don't know what made you bring that up.
Blame the girl from Sacramento.
About three weeks?
Stop the cap!
What about you?
Stop the cap!
What about you?
Don't cap!
Last night.
Hey!
What about you?
We know when her, she said, what, four months ago or something like that?
So you say.
What about you?
This morning.
Right before the show.
Yeah, I did it for OnlyFans.
Nah, ready?
Two days, not an OnlyFans one.
Like a solid little, uh.
Yeah, no, no OnlyFans, no cameras, just solid.
Okay, two days.
No cap!
My hand is tingling, I'll give it to you.
Was it team BBC? No.
I've actually, I've never, and I'll say this live, I've never done a BBC. What?
One time.
Yo, Myron.
Look, I'll tell you guys.
Myron, you gotta fix that, bro.
No, you're the BBC. Oh, you?
Pause, pause, pause.
You're the one that calls yourself BBC. I'm not blocking everybody.
No, I have a...
I like like a brown or like...
A mix.
A mix.
A little mix in between.
Like white?
No.
Black?
No.
I like anything in between.
You can be Middle Eastern.
I'm there.
Like, I like anything in between.
There you go, buddy!
Yes, sir!
Yeah, baby!
You're choking, man!
I'm going to take my girl of mine here if you guys want some...
Use a pressure discount.
Good promo.
What about you?
Okay.
I look honesty.
Okay.
What about you?
Last week?
For real?
I haven't seen him.
It's been like three weeks.
I have my period.
What does that mean?
So it's been about three weeks.
I went to a festival three weeks ago.
I had a lot of fun.
What about you?
When's the last time you...
I would say about a week or two weeks ago.
No, no, no.
It's either a week or two weeks.
What is it?
What is it?
Don't be gapping over here.
When you are enjoying life, you don't keep track of the time.
You honestly don't even pay attention to your phone and you're just like, oh my god, what day is it?
What time is it?
Honestly.
A week, a month, two weeks ago.
Can you guys put this guy on the camera?
Because I need this.
What about you?
I'm going to pass on the question.
No, you can't.
You got to answer.
You got to answer, man.
That's a bit.
That's a bit.
Ladies, ladies, ladies.
So I can put on this last hat.
Go ahead.
Ladies do not speak of their experiences.
But thank you.
I can't respect it.
I can't respect it.
My last boyfriend.
Six months ago.
Stop the cat.
Fantastic.
You gotta turn it on.
You gotta flick it.
Can I do it?
I feel like I'm in high school.
It's peer pressure.
Okay, so where are we at here?
What?
How many caps is you wearing?
I need a picture of this.
Question for the ladies.
If you're on a date and you see your ex, are you saying hi to your ex to flex your date?
If it was the other way and you see your ex on a date and he says hi to you flexing his date, what would you do?
That's a lot of affection in dates.
I have a good answer.
If you're on a date...
I'm hiding in the bathroom.
He's basically asking here, if you're on a date with a dude and you see your ex, are you going to say hi to him?
But if he's on a date...
No, I would not.
But if he's on a date and he says hi to a girl, he says hi to you while he's on a date with a girl, what do you do?
So, we can start with here.
Would you say...
Would you say hi to him if he said hi to you when he was on a date?
And then would you say hi to him when you're on a date?
I actually just experienced this like a week ago where I ran into my ex with a girl on the beach.
I laughed at him.
Wait, was she, like, not pretty?
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
But I mean, I just had a laugh.
What else am I going to do?
So it would be fair to say that you're not going to say hi?
I mean, like, nod or wink.
I'm not gonna, probably not gonna say hi.
I mean, if I'm with a date, I'm focused on my date.
I'm not gonna, it's disrespectful for me to be, so I'm probably not gonna say hi.
No, if I'm on a date, I probably won't say hi.
Would you tell your date that that's your ex?
Would you say, hey, you know what, that's my ex over there?
No.
If he questioned it, I will tell the truth.
I'll be like, yeah, that's my ex.
But if he didn't bring it up, I probably wouldn't tell him.
Okay.
How many of you would say hi to your ex while you're on a date?
How many of you?
Yes.
No?
But if he's on a date and he comes up to me, I'm going to say hi.
Okay.
You'll only say hi if they say hi to you first.
No.
If I'm on a date with a guy and he tries to come up to me, I'm not going to say hi.
But if he's on a date with a girl, I'm going to try to flex.
Oh, okay.
It depends on who I'm with.
It depends on who I'm with.
My ego here.
My ego is peaking a little bit.
We can admit that.
What do we got here?
Go ahead.
Ghost Phoenix goes, ladies, rate the girl next to you 1 to 10 on beauty and how much they are for the streets, 1 being virgin and 10 being for the pavements.
Wait, when you say next to us, like what side?
What side do you mean when you say next to us?
We're going to come back to that one.
Cam two times.
What does modern day relationships and pat people have in common?
They never seem to work out.
Fat people.
Fat people.
Okay.
Okay, fat question.
Cam two times.
I'm tired of these tank-sized females looking for a man that can lift them over their shoulders and do the carrying position.
If they really want that, drop the extra weight.
Ladies, have you ever been in a carrying POS situation?
Yes.
Wait, what?
Yes!
You carry niggas?
I've been in a position where my ex was smaller than me in height and in weight.
What?
And I could literally lift him.
I could literally lift him.
Genuinely.
I don't know.
What made you fall for him?
The thing is, what made me fall for him was the, probably the mask that he put on was that, the way that he came off to me and the way he came off.
So I just, I kind of like ate that shit up basically.
Not the confidence, but the way that he just, oh, I'm so understanding.
I want you to open up.
I want you to talk basically.
So basically, it was just sort of like that.
And the thing is, he was smarter than me in height and in weight.
So I was like, you know what?
You can't even talk shit to me because if you talk shit to me, I can lift you.
I can drop you at that point.
Wow.
All right.
Fantastic.
Let's move on to the next one, I guess.
Dig till she busts.
Appreciate that, Jason Love.
For a father, a virgin daughter is the equivalent of a son who can get at least laid from an average woman.
Men and women aren't the same.
What's the question?
He's just making a comment.
He needs to shut up.
Jared Garcia, Yu Yu Hakusho, better than DBZ, One Piece, Naruto.
Not true.
Get out of here, bro.
Not true.
You all in, nigga.
Disagree.
The only thing interrupting Myron more than these 304s is his silent, closed fist burp acid reflux.
Do you have acid reflux?
No.
304s?
Alright, where else do we have here?
Ladies, do you think that giving up your career slash source of income to serve your man and raise kids is giving up on yourself?
Why or why not?
No.
No.
Hold on, hold on.
I'll get there.
Just like a 50-50.
Alright, so we'll start here.
Do you think giving up your career slash source of income to serve your man and raise kids is giving up on yourself?
So in this case, it would be a family giving up your career that you currently hold or your income for that family.
Is it giving up?
No, absolutely not.
So I grew up in a single parent home.
My father passed away.
And what that did to the family and just not having a nuclear family growing up was really detrimental.
I have a brother in prison.
I speak about that on my platform pretty openly.
What are you going for?
I can't.
I can't reveal that.
I'm so sorry.
You said you speak about it openly.
What are you saying right now?
I've spoken about my experience with my family and what we've been through as a family.
Yeah, I can't speak about it.
Out of respect for his children and his wife.
I mean, you said you did say a second ago you spoke about it openly, so I asked the question.
No, for sure.
And that's as open as I'd like to be.
So not open then?
Sure.
Okay, next.
That's okay.
Alright.
Basically, I personally...
If you are giving up...
The thing is, I feel like I'm more of a 50-50...
I'm more of the 50-50 type of woman.
If you are giving up...
I'm more of a 50-50 type of woman.
If you are giving up your entire life to give to something else and you are a person that has communicated to me that you're committed and you're loyal, if it's something...
If I birth children devoted to you and stuff like that, I'm not gonna...
I'm going to sit there and I'm going to do my part as the woman in the relationship and dedicate myself to being a mother and being a...
You know what I'm saying?
Because the thing is, when you give birth to children, I personally feel like you're either a woman or a mother.
So I feel like once you give birth to a woman, you're a mother.
So you're only doing it with kids.
Huh?
You're only going to change for him.
It's not just the children.
The thing is, when you're a mother, it's not just the children that you change in your aspect.
When you're a mother, you take care.
You take care in general.
Take care of the children.
Take care of your household.
Take care of your husband.
Can you explain a 50-50 relationship?
Because you kept saying 50-50.
When I say 50-50, I believe in a teamwork, a partnership.
If you are my partner, you do your part as the man and I do my part as the woman.
I 110% believe in that.
I don't believe in the man doing more.
What's his part and then what's your part specifically?
The thing is, that's something that we have to communicate between each other.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you can have your perspective, and I have my perspective, and the thing is we have to come up to a compromise, and that's it.
You know what I'm saying?
If you feel like as a man, you have to do this role, and if you feel as a woman, I feel like I have to do this role, and I communicate to you.
Want to be fair to say there's gender norms and gender roles in general, so there isn't much need for communication?
There's a misogyny to it, but at the same time, I feel like it's what you agree on with with your partner.
Can you tell me what misogyny means?
What I mean by misogyny is that the thing is, and the entirety of it, even if the man wasn't sacrificing anything at all, like in regards to his life, Misogyny is like as if, oh, you have to stay in the kitchen.
You have to stay in the house.
That's my point of view from it, basically.
But my thing is, as a woman, if you feel as if you can contribute...
I feel as if you, as a woman, if you could contribute to the household in any way, shape, or form, you should.
And as a man, if you could contribute to the house any way, shape, or form, no matter what role you see it as, you should.
Okay.
And that's it.
It's all about communication and compromise as a person.
You were wrong about misogyny.
Misogyny is the hatred of women.
Yes.
Okay.
So, I mean, how are gender roles the hatred of women?
I don't assume gender roles are the hatred.
Hate is a really good word.
As soon as I said that, I was like, wouldn't it be fair to say that there's gender roles and then you're like, well, that's misogyny.
I never included the word hate into my definition.
That's what it means.
That's what it means.
Okay, but the term that I was trying to go with basically was...
Yeah, basically.
Words have a meaning for a reason.
If you use it incorrectly, use it incorrectly, but misogyny is the hatred of women.
That's a very strong word, too.
Hate is a really strong word.
I agree.
Hate is a really, really, really strong word.
Alright.
Thank you for your answer.
I'm sorry to be annoying, but can you repeat the question?
Call me stupid.
No, it was...
Oh, shit.
Goddammit.
Pull it back up.
Would you give up your career and source of income to serve your man and raise kids?
Would I give it up?
If I'm happy and he's a good man and that's what he wants to do for me and taking care of my kids is what makes me happy, why wouldn't I? So you have to be happy and then you have to take care of your kids.
Yeah, why not?
Kids make you happy.
I don't know.
Yes, I would do it if I was good.
What about you?
I mean, for me to get to the point where I give up my source of income, you have to show me that you're going to be there 100%.
If something goes wrong, you're going to, you got us, you know, you have us.
If we have kids together, that means that we are down for each other because having kids is a big compromise.
You can just wake up one day and be like, we don't have kids no more.
So I will give up my source of income to stay home and take care of my husband and my kids because my husband, if we get to the point of having kids, is going to be a man that is going to provide 100% all the time.
Alright.
You answered this already.
You said you would.
What about you?
I think you answered it too.
What about you?
Would you give it up?
Sure.
Because we got a bunch of these.
That's why I want to get through as many of them.
You would give it up?
Sure.
You wouldn't give it up?
Nah.
You wouldn't?
Okay.
But don't you say you follow Jesus?
Wait, yeah.
I do, but if he has to be a man of Jesus, I mean, I guess...
If he was a man of Jesus...
Why submit to your husband?
Well, it's like a divine connection.
You're going to see who has Jesus in them, you know?
It's not like, oh, you just marry anybody and then it's like...
But that's not what they say.
I know.
So if we're both in alignment and that's what God wants us to do, yeah, I'll do it.
So the only way is if he's Christian?
Huh?
No, no, no.
Not Christian.
If he follows Jesus.
I mean, I do.
For like two weeks.
It shows.
You judge them by their fruits.
You'll know.
So, if their fruits are right, you will know.
She's been right now.
I judge people by their fruits.
She's been right now.
Like balls?
I don't know.
Seeds?
No, no, no.
You judge them by their fruits.
I guess you can make it sexual if you want, but you'll see how they are, how they treat people.
You'll see the Holy Ghost in their eyes.
Alright, nigga.
There we go.
No, I wouldn't.
You want to give it up?
Alright, what about you?
Would you give it up?
Okay, um, no.
50-50, like, to answer that question to an extent, because...
Explain 50-50.
Yes and no, because what am I going to do if 20 years into a marriage or 15, 10, he decides to leave me for a younger woman?
Statistically speaking, that rarely ever happens.
But that's not the point.
The point being, it could happen.
What am I going to do?
What education?
What am I going to be able to do?
You could crash in a plane when you get on a plane, but you still get on a plane because the chances of it happening are slim, correct?
I understand the likelihood of that happening is slim.
However, I gotta consider myself and my partner.
You know, it takes two to tango in a relationship.
The possibility of him leaving me and him having that leverage against me because he He's the provider.
He's doing everything for me in the financial way.
Let's say the house is in his name, all that stuff.
What am I going to do?
If he does break it with you, he's going to have to pay a hell of money.
Family court is heavily geared towards females.
You would still win no matter what.
If he divorced, you would actually get penalized for doing that.
If he actually left you without a job and he had everything in his name and then he decides to divorce you after all that time, the courts would absolutely destroy him and take half his money.
You'd probably get the marital home.
Like, they would punish him for that.
I agree, and I know that's possible.
But however, some marriage contracts are different.
What if my partner doesn't want to do that?
If he doesn't want to do what?
If he doesn't want to give me 50%.
He doesn't have a choice.
There are choices.
My aunt did that where when you get divorced, you don't have to split it.
You just go your separate ways.
At the end of the day, I want to focus on myself and my partner.
There's a prenuptial agreement in place, but everything after the prenuptial agreement is considered Co-mingled.
All the money earned after you guys marry.
So if he was with you for 15 years and he decides to leave you, he's going to be punished for that to some degree.
All day.
It could happen, but I also want to be my own person, have my own education, have my own career.
So that's the real reason.
It's not because he's going to leave you.
Well, it can go both ways.
It can be more than one reason.
Exactly.
Alright.
What about you?
I'm a busybody.
I like to keep busy.
I'm a triplet, so I grew up with three kids at once.
So I think if I just had one kid, I wouldn't get bored with it.
I'd absolutely have fun with it, but I wouldn't have hobbies and other things to do.
I don't know if it's a he or she.
I'm not supposed to say if it's a he or she already.
I'm not a kid yet.
So a triplet to all the girls?
Identical twin sister, fraternal brother.
Okay.
Alright.
Cool.
So, guys, we just hit 10,000.
So from this point forward, we're going to read 50 and up.
So, but I'll read the ones that came in from before and every single one will be shown on the screen as usual.
And ladies, think of a question as well for the panel.
Yes.
Or for us too.
Yeah, we don't want to just ask you guys questions all the time.
But we have to because girls are so boring and they never have anything to ask.
Wait, what type of question are you thinking to be asked?
Anything.
Dating, lifestyle, sexual, whatever you want to know.
Wait, can I ask you a question?
Why do you cheat on you?
Why do you flake on you?
Shoot.
Ain't nobody cheat on me.
No shit on you.
Flake on you.
Ain't nobody flake on me either.
Shit.
Who's that?
Nigga.
Alright.
What's your point?
Here's an honest question, ladies.
Do you prefer giving or getting?
If you prefer it, is it a red flag if your partner does not eat box?
Yeah, definitely red flag.
We can start.
Yeah, I think he's asking, do you prefer giving or getting a BJ, right?
Do women get a BJ? Well, he means oral sex.
That's what I meant.
We'll start here, right?
This time?
Okay.
Prefer giving or receiving?
Both.
What do you mean?
If you have to pick one.
51%, 49%.
It could be that close if you want.
Receiving.
And then it asks here, if you prefer it, is it a red flag if your partner does not eat box?
It's tough, right?
That's a tough question.
If you're signing up for...
You asked me my dream man earlier.
Does my dream man not eat box?
Damn.
Maybe he's not my dream man anymore.
What about you?
Do you prefer giving or getting?
I prefer giving.
I prefer giving.
Is it a red flag if he doesn't want to eat box?
Yeah, it is a red flag because nine times out of ten before me, you probably eat box.
No.
Yeah, nine times out of ten, they probably did end up giving it to somebody.
But they don't want to eat yours.
But the thing is, nine times out of ten, the thing is...
They don't want to eat yours.
Okay, so then that's a personal opinion, but for me, it's a red flag.
Because if you're ready to eat somebody else, then...
What about you?
Giving or getting, and then is it a red flag?
Okay, giving.
And yeah, it's definitely a red flag if he doesn't want to eat this pussy because why not?
Giving and of course a red flag because what you mean?
You don't want to eat me out.
What about you, giving or getting?
And is it a red flag if they don't want to do it?
I like both, but you mentioned percentages, so my higher percentage is for getting.
And I agree with actually all of you.
It's a red flag if you don't want to, because at that point you're not willing to reciprocate the same energy I'm giving you.
Are we the same?
It's not about being the same.
It's about if we're- But you're arguing for the same.
Yeah.
No, all I'm saying is like, I think reciprocity is not about equality.
Reciprocity is about, it's just exchanging energy.
Oh, so you pay for dates?
No.
Okay, cool.
I mean...
I'm about reciprocity and I think that's more about energy than...
So I want to see all your dates.
When you go on dates, he pays one time, you pay next time.
Cool?
I don't mind taking turns.
I like that.
I do that.
Tomorrow, no boo on you.
That's fine.
So you want reciprocity, you said, right?
Who do you think has to bring more to the relationship to be attractive to the opposite gender?
It depends.
Realistically speaking.
Who has to have more checkboxes checked off to attract the opposite gender?
The man to attract the woman?
Or the woman to attract the man?
Typically the male, but that's not every situation.
But typically the male, yes.
Okay, so if the male has to bring more to the table to be attractive, do you think you are entitled to the same level of sexual satisfaction as the man if he has to work a lot harder to get it?
I feel like everyone's different though.
Why do men deal with women?
Why do women deal with men?
No, no, no.
Realistically speaking, why do men deal with and or talk to or court women in general?
What's the main commodity women provide?
That you think?
Typically because they want sex.
Okay, now what is the main commodity that men provide or commodities in this case?
Money.
What else?
I guess sex.
Protection.
Okay, yes.
But that's not every man though.
Just like it's not every woman that is willing or can provide that other thing.
There's special cases.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not disagreeing.
I'm just saying there's special cases.
Yeah, hood niggas that you fuck, man.
Simple as that.
I don't do hood niggas.
I think she gets where I'm going there with the reciprocity stuff.
We'll keep going, though.
What about you?
Giving or getting?
And is it a red flag if they don't want to give?
I'm going to say I prefer to give.
Just because of, like I said, my values earlier.
Though I do do the OnlyFans, I said, okay, this is what my ideal man would be.
Isn't it right if they don't want to do it back?
No, it's not to me personally.
Because to be honest, I don't really like that shit that much ever.
And I've had a lot of guys say, oh, it's because you never had it done right now.
I swear to God, I just don't like that shit.
That shit makes me too horny.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, now I'm good.
So, okay, you're the only one that doesn't like.
Alright, what about you?
It doesn't relate to me.
Wait, no, that's not an answer.
I'm both.
If you had to pick one, what would you prefer, giving or getting?
It doesn't relate to me.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Actually, it should.
I don't know yet.
Are you a virgin?
No.
It relates.
I don't know.
Okay, if you were married, how about that?
If I was married, if he's being weird, he doesn't want me to give, then I'll receive.
- Say that again, you what, Brad?
- What? - What? - What? - That's not the question.
- What did I miss? - The question is basically, do you prefer giving or getting from your-- If I'm married, if he doesn't want me to give, I'll receive.
No, no.
What do you prefer?
Receive?
Okay, cool.
Is it a red flag if he doesn't want to do that?
Yeah.
No, no.
He said, God told me, don't eat bucks.
We're going to read the Bible.
Yeah, that's cool.
We're going to read the Bible together.
And God is pro-sex.
God wants sex if it's not marriage.
So it doesn't matter.
It's sex.
Alright, what about you?
Giving or getting?
And is it a red flag if they don't want to give?
Not the perfume.
It's holy water.
Alright, go ahead.
Giving or getting.
I know what she wants.
She's Dominican.
I already know.
What do you think I want?
I already know.
What do you think?
Just say it.
What do you think?
Just say it.
I know.
I like giving.
I know.
You do?
Is that a red flag and you don't want to reciprocate?
That?
Yeah, because you don't love me.
Dumb titties, though.
Dumb titties.
You gotta love all of me, though.
Especially them titties.
Giving or getting.
What is Chris talking about?
I prefer giving Earl because...
I mean, Chad knows, man.
Is it a red flag if they don't want to give it back?
I prefer giving, and it is a red flag if you don't want to give me the same amount of pleasure I'm giving you.
That's all I can explain it as.
But whose duty is it to provide sexual pleasure?
The man or the woman?
It's nobody's duty.
We're both supposed to perform at the end of the day.
Alright, realistically speaking, who has a higher burden of performance on giving sex to the opposite gender?
Naturally, you have to move.
We can't really detach our privates and let go like that.
Naturally, you have to move, so you are more likely to do so.
The question is, who has to sexually...
Who's more responsible for sexually satisfying their partner?
The man or the woman?
The man.
What?
It goes both ways.
How many of y'all think the man is more responsible for sexually satisfying their woman?
No, I'm gonna fuck your shit up.
Just pay for everything.
Do you think so too?
I'm asking her though.
It goes both ways in my opinion.
Realistically speaking, the genders are not the same.
I know 50-50 sounds great on paper, but realistically speaking, we have certain roles that are biologically built into us.
I mean, naturally y'all have to move more, so I'm gonna say men have to perform more.
No, no, no, no.
I'm saying who has to sexually satisfy their partner?
Like, who has a more responsibility?
Whose job is that more?
I don't believe it's anybody's, like, genuine job.
It goes both ways.
That's just my answer.
I mean, like, I'm expected to perform decently, and he's supposed to do the same.
Alright, let's operate in reality here.
Not because some of you guys are giving me a politically correct answer, so I'm going to be very raw about this.
It's your job to give the guy sex.
Men deal with women most of the time, 90% plus, because of sexual access.
If you guys didn't have vaginas, men wouldn't talk to you.
Let's keep it a thousand.
I'm like, come on, man.
Like, y'all really think...
Like, dudes are out here trying to get to know you and talk to you and have a great conversation.
We don't give a fuck about none of that.
Men deal with women for sexual access.
And all of you know this deep down to some degree.
You have your titties out for a reason.
You have your titties out for a reason.
You have makeup on.
You're on OnlyFans.
All of you guys know to a degree that your main agency is your sexuality.
Stop fucking lying.
Okay?
So if we're going to be real here and have a real discussion...
A woman's pleasure is not as important as a man's pleasure.
Because a man can still provide value to a woman outside of sex.
But a woman very rarely can provide value to a man outside of sex, being real here.
Can't you do it?
Yes.
But if you don't provide sexual access and satisfaction, your relationship might not last.
Because that's the main thing you bring to the table.
What do you mean by access?
It's true, though.
What do you mean?
What do you mean by we don't provide access?
I have a question.
No, I said the main commodity that women provide is sexual access.
The main commodity.
The main commodity that we provide is access.
What makes you think that?
Nah.
Okay.
Really?
Can I make a comment?
Why do you think men talk to you?
Nah, I got a question.
For you?
What do you mean by men?
What do you mean by talk to me?
In what scenario and in what circumstance?
Nah, they want to smack down.
But you gotta have standards for some.
Yo, you want to smack down?
Alright, take me out to dinner then first.
That's on a smaller scale.
On a larger scale, you want to smack down every fucking night?
Alright, then you're paying for my apartment too, right?
Alright, right on.
Except my OnlyFans are not.
We gotta be real here.
Men, the main reason that men deal with and talk to women is for sex.
I'm down with that.
Why do you believe that every woman, every reason that a man talks to a woman is for sex?
I said it's the main reason.
Well, why do you feel like that?
It's not that I feel it, that's what it is.
Okay, but where did you get that fact from?
Where did I get that fact from?
Is the sky blue?
I mean, no, no, but genuinely, but the thing is, it's all opinionated because I can...
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
A lot of guys do say that they wouldn't be friends with ugly girls.
You know, that's a point because it's like, they say like, why would I want to be friends with an ugly female?
Because at the end of the day, I like to look at them.
I'm attracted to them.
I want to be around something that I like to see.
And at the end of the day, if you open your legs, a man is not going to look away.
A man is going to be a man.
They're beasts, basically.
You know, they're going to respond.
Shut the eyes.
Okay.
And you?
Somebody was trying to say something.
Yes, I had a question.
Does that have to do on this topic?
I got one on this topic.
So I don't disagree that sex is important and you are right, men.
Typically, they're hunters, right?
So they're hunting.
But I have a lot of male friends and they always tell me like, yeah, she's hot, yeah, we smash, yeah, she's great, whatever.
But maybe she doesn't provide me peace or she doesn't support me or whatever.
So it's like, Yeah, you know, it's good, but, like, is that all I'm willing to give it up for?
Hold on, hold on, stop.
You just proved my point even further.
Yeah, exactly.
Why would a man deal with a woman that can't even provide him peace?
Think about that for two seconds.
But we were talking about sex, though.
But that's what he's saying.
Men will deal with fuckery for women for sex.
yep they're all nuts fuckery yeah after the fact of smashing okay but but what I said made sense right no no no a little bit a little bit all I'm saying is right we understand men will tolerate poor behavior bitchy attitudes not providing peace annoying as fuck stupid as fuck stupid as shit like hurts their brain cells for sexual access That proves my point that men literally only deal with women for sexual access.
It's the main reason.
Some girls, it's the only reason?
For other girls, it's the main reason.
Some guys, it's, you know, half the reason.
But in general, it is over half the reason why men deal with women is sexual access.
Those are lost, man.
That's why.
Yeah, fine God.
That's lost, man.
They're lost.
All they want is sex, so they're lost.
Because they don't even have peace within themselves, so they're trying to seek it somewhere else.
Can you admit that, like, that's most men, though?
Because they're lost, right?
I'll personally be on peaceful at that point.
Look, give me the house, delete the OnlyFans, pay for it all.
I'm there, motherfucker!
I'm there, bitch!
Let me ask you something.
No, for her.
Miss Jesus follower.
Would you consider a woman lost for wanting a man that's a strong protector and provider?
Say that again.
Would you consider a woman lost for wanting a man that's a strong protector and provider?
No.
She's not lost.
Would it be fair to say that these things are hardwired into her psyche?
What's hardwired into her psyche?
To want a man that's strong and can provide and protect?
No, that's not being lost.
No, no, no.
I'm asking you.
Pay attention.
First I said, is a woman lost for wanting a man that's a provider and protector?
No.
Okay.
Would it be fair to say she's not lost because that's in her psyche?
It's wired into her to want that.
Right.
It's natural, correct?
Right.
So why is a man lost for wanting sexual access?
He's not lost.
It's how he's seeking it.
If he's seeking a wife, he's not lost.
If he's seeking it from just anybody jumping from vagina to vagina, that's being lost because all you're doing is spreading demons and you don't even know it.
You're getting lost day by day.
You're getting lost month by month.
You're not going to be fulfilled.
I promise you that.
You're not going to be fulfilled if you don't have God within you.
I can speak that from experience.
Well, here's the thing.
You're a woman, so sex affects you far differently.
No, that's guys too.
They're not fulfilled.
I promise you they're not fulfilled.
Oh, we are.
Men get fulfilled through other means, right?
Accomplishing things, being successful, getting respect from your peers.
This is typically how men, you know, feel accomplished and feel fulfilled.
The ones that are lost, yeah.
From success?
No, no.
Success, you shouldn't be worshipping success only.
But you should be successful.
That's what men do, is conquer.
Since the beginning of time.
Definitely, yes.
That's you guys' traits.
A part of conquering is also conquering women, conquering success, conquering finances, conquering social proof, all these things.
This argument is Bible-based, so it'll never meet.
For example, you're talking about the worldly views, you're talking about biblical views, so it's kind of different.
You're never going to meet with her.
Face value.
I have a question for you.
You were going to be a pastor.
Why didn't you?
How do you know that?
You told me.
What?
Why didn't you?
What stopped you from that?
I mentioned it.
I was like, you're going to be a pastor.
Bro, you gave her an album.
You said we can't ask questions.
You said we can't ask questions.
Yeah, we can't, but let's just stay on this for now.
I'm going to respectfully disagree.
I think that you guys, your testosterone is raging right now, but I have a lot of clients and I have men who have 1.2 Two million followers across all platforms.
And as men get older, they absolutely want someone to talk to.
They absolutely have to have something in common.
There has to be common interests.
They have to value the same thing.
You know, there is conversation that happens.
They're not just going for the 23-year-old who's...
There are some men.
There are some men who want that.
But a lot of men do want to have...
But they need sexual attraction first.
Of course.
That's the point.
But there has to be more than that.
That's not going to make them stay.
She said the same thing.
We're just saying, initially, it is, what do I see?
Do I want to fuck?
Awesome.
These same kinds that you're talking about will go fuck an annoying 21-year-old.
Yeah.
Relationships and sex are two different things.
A man will go ahead and deal with a girl that he doesn't like that much to fuck her if she's hot enough.
Getting a relationship, of course, you're going to need a little bit more substance.
But my main point here, the foundation is men, right, deal with women predominantly for sexual access first.
Her personality, her femininity, all the other stuff comes out to the fact to keep the man.
So do you think that we're just having sex with guys that we don't want to have sex with?
No.
That's the difference between men and women, though.
Men will have sex with girls.
They don't really necessarily like like that just because they want sexual access.
Women, however, need to like and respect the guy to some degree.
Men and women are very different.
What I'm saying is that men deal with women predominantly for sexual access.
Men will pretend.
I agree.
The stuff you're mentioning before comes after the fact.
In short, men will fuck anything.
There you go.
Thank you.
I agree.
So we can agree?
Yes.
I don't know.
I do not agree.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
If you are a man who has standards, who...
But that's not a lot of them, though.
I disagree with you.
You're arguing for a small majority of men.
Minority, minority.
Possibly.
And also, I'm going to be all the way a thousand with you.
When men hire female dating coaches, they don't tell everything.
They don't want to be judged.
They're not going to...
They're not judged on my platform.
I speak predominantly about men.
They're not judged on my platform.
They're not going to be all the way honest with you and tell you about what they're really looking at in girls or what they've done in the past.
They're not going to tell you, oh yeah, totally pay for box and all this other shit.
They're not going to tell you that.
Yes, they have.
So why are you looking at us like we're crazy when we're saying men want sexual access first?
I'm not looking at you crazy.
I'm just saying that men, I think that you guys are lowering men to the least common denominator of their sexual...
Listen, the men who come to your platform are simps.
They're like lower quality.
They can't get any girls.
That's what it comes to you.
Hey, listen.
They're the same guys that follow you, too.
Hey, listen.
It's a divide, you know what I'm saying?
So those guys follow us, you know, whatever is what it is.
They do.
But why would you guys talk to a female about trying to get boxed?
You know what I'm saying?
Because if I'm going to understand men and I want to understand how to be in a relationship with a man, I'm going to go to a man and I'm going to ask questions.
So why are the same guys going to you?
What's going on with that?
Because they want to understand women because they're not getting them.
Exactly.
All right.
Wait, help me understand exactly.
Help me understand exactly.
These guys aren't getting sex.
So they have to run to, you know, a female to try to get sex.
But if niggas, like, for example, these older guys, they want sex, why would they go to a dating coach if they're getting sex already?
Well, you wouldn't hire me if you were getting laid.
That's not a service that you would hire.
But you wouldn't get a car wash if your car was clean.
So these guys aren't getting sex, so that's what I'm saying.
Oh, okay.
He's saying that your clients aren't fucking, is why they go to you.
They're looking for relationships.
They're actually...
Bro, they're simps.
Sorry, Switch.
Fuck it, first time.
That's okay.
Sorry, Switch.
Fuck it, Chris.
Okay, somebody else has something?
Alright, so back to the main question before that went on for a while.
We were talking about the giving and getting and then I was talking about why the woman giving is more important because men deal with women for sexual access first.
Fuck.
Alright, now you got me distracted.
That's what it was.
Facebook and Twitch.
Yeah, come on over.
Why are we not on Rumble?
Oh, we are?
Okay, okay.
Guys, come on over to YouTube and rumble.
I remember now.
So after all of that, remember how you guys were like, oh, do you guys think men would fuck anything, right?
So I think they would, personally.
So I'm not coming after you with this question, but out of curiosity, would you guys fuck anything, being so high value?
No.
But hold on, hold on, hold on.
But a majority of guys...
Here's the thing.
A majority of men would have sex with a majority of women.
That's the best way I can put it.
Anything though, anything's 100%.
A majority is what, like 75?
I mean, a slow Wednesday.
Shit!
Like 80%, I mean, like, if it was a couple years ago, I'd be more open.
But nowadays, with like an image and shit like that, you have to be more careful.
But there's other guys in my position that wouldn't give a shit and smash anything.
So I don't want to use myself as an example because I don't believe in using exceptions to the rule.
I think that's very stupid.
But I think in general, most guys, if given an opportunity, would smash a vast majority of women.
I think you're right.
I think you're right on that subject.
I was just honestly curious myself about you guys.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I mean, I think in general, like, men deal with women for sexual access.
I mean, you don't want to...
You were trying to say something.
Sorry.
So I was actually going to say the similar thing as you.
What is your definition of a high-value man?
Like, I want to know that before I ask you.
Okay.
A guy that makes, I would say, at least six figures a year, if not more.
I would say bare minimum.
Has respect from his peers.
Is good at what he does.
He's useful.
And he's respected.
Has a good network as well.
Has a good network as well of other men that are also higher status.
Okay, so a regular man and a high-value man, do you think it's the same with the amount of women he's going to have relations with?
Like you said, the majority of women, are you still going to have intercourse with a bunch of women?
You mean a regular man versus a high-value man?
Yeah, would the high-value man still do that?
Yeah, a lot of them will.
But if you're so high value, like she said, why are you giving into it?
Wouldn't you just want a higher value woman?
Isn't that proving desperation?
Wait, what's a high value woman?
No, because men and women aren't the same.
That's what I was about to ask.
It's not the same.
Like, a man wants quantity.
A woman wants quality.
Why?
Why do you want quality over quality?
How long does it take you to have a child?
Nine months?
Okay.
How long does it take me to have a child?
30 seconds.
There you go.
So you have way more investment in parental provisioning because you get pregnant.
I don't.
I can bust nuts and 100 girls and be good.
You, on the other hand, have to save your egg for the best guy to bust a nut inside you.
So, of course, you're going to be far more selective because the whole pregnancy process is time-consuming and very labor-intensive and could kill you in times before modern medicine.
Yeah.
So that's why women are more selective.
It's biology.
Actually, the egg chooses its own sperm.
But it's coming from the same individual.
That's what I mean.
She's still going to be selective on the individual that impregnates her, is my point.
If you leave women's own devices, they typically pick the same small percentage of men.
You were trying to say something?
Let me gather my thoughts.
Okay, we'll come back to you.
In your eyes, what's a high-value woman?
No such thing.
No such thing?
So my only fans.
Let me finish.
There's no such thing as a high value woman by herself.
By herself?
Yes.
Why?
Well, it's because men, right?
Their value is derived from what they create out in the world.
A woman's value is derived from creating a family.
So, there's a reason why a woman takes a man's last name.
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that a woman's value is by creating a family?
Did most of the women here say that they would give up their money and their job for a family?
That doesn't relate to that.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You said who said that, right?
Okay, okay.
I'll give you that.
Most of the women here preferred, if given the choice, a family and a husband over a career.
I'll give you that because most women don't have...
Like, back in the day, my grandma used to receive roses off of nothing.
Now, I have to ask for them shits.
I'm not...
I'm not...
That's not funny.
I'm not laying down...
No.
Yes.
I'm not doing that.
Who killed it?
Who killed it?
Yeah.
Who killed it?
Y'all.
No.
I don't.
Women kill Shivery.
How?
Because women punish nice guys.
Yep.
Women punish nice guys.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
They're not lying, though.
It is true.
Like, this is the age.
Like, not all of us are like that, but there's a lot of women that are like, men ain't shit.
Men ain't shit.
You know, let's take their money.
Let's do this.
Let's do that.
So a lot of men just feel like...
You know, why would I do that?
It shouldn't be like that.
You know, we're not all like that.
No, that's not dead.
Back then, you see one pretty woman and you get married to her when you're young and that's what you do.
Nowadays, you guys are scrolling through Instagram and you're seeing a million OnlyFans models, people out and about.
It's a different age.
It's different.
Of course, you're not just going to settle down with one person because the grass looks greener everywhere else now.
It's a different age.
You think Instagram is the reason why men aren't gentlemen anymore?
I think social media.
100%.
I think it's both sides, partly.
I think it's a lot deeper than social media.
Who do you think social media is poisoned more, men or women?
Women.
Of course, 100%.
I'm asking her.
Probably women.
So what's your argument, then, about social media and Instagram?
It's really the women that are ones that control the sexual marketplace, and social media has amplified that.
It's the women that think the grass greener on the other side.
Y'all killed it, not us.
Chivalry is dead and women killed it, not men.
Because why would a guy...
You guys gotta understand, men are deductive problem solvers, right?
Everything you guys see in this room was built by a man.
Men look at a problem.
Okay, let me try to figure this out.
Men quickly realize, okay, I want sex.
How do I get sex?
Woman has sex.
What do I have to do to get sex from a woman?
Well, I'm gonna give her flowers and be a nice guy.
Gets friend-zoned.
Gets stood up on dates, get flakestoned.
Fuck, this doesn't work.
How do I get girls?
Oh, I need to be a fucking asshole.
So, what do men do?
They adopt the bad boy image, being an asshole, to go ahead and get girls, because women respect men that don't necessarily give them the same level of respect.
Nice guys finish last, and it's been a saying for decades, for a reason, because women don't know how to behave when a guy's a gentleman off rip.
That's old.
Women who have daddy issues will only tolerate that behavior.
Just to be clear.
Bad boy behavior.
Bad boy behavior.
Women who are 100% secure with themselves and have...
I disagree.
So you think that a woman who comes from a nuclear family who has had a very strong father figure in her life is going to go after an asshole?
Exactly.
Women are attracted to guys that exhibit Machiavellian traits that aren't necessarily almost...
aren't always...
Well, younger women.
Between the ages of 21 and 23.
The average 80% of American U.S. families have an age difference of 2.3 years in marriages.
So that is...
I get it.
You're saying maybe girls that know their values or whatever, but when do girls typically realize their value?
It's when they're older.
Men want younger, more attractive, more fertile women, and these women tend to look for traits that are more...
Did you just hear the statistic I just said?
So 80% of marriages, the average age gap is 2.3 years.
The only 8% of marriages have an age gap of 10 years or more.
So if that was true, then men would be all going after 23-year-olds.
Back to my original point, men want more than just the putang.
They want to have conversation.
I did a poll one time on my Instagram.
Ask them, what would you prefer?
32-year-old who you can have a conversation with or a 23-year-old who you just want to bang.
Guess what?
90% of them said I take the 32 year old any day.
So I like what?
Being honest.
No, 100%.
No, I'm sorry.
I love you guys.
But I'm telling you...
I agree.
What is most of your Instagram posts?
What's most of your posts on Instagram?
I talk about dating and relationships, men and women.
And then do you have like a favorable side or no?
No, I'm split down the middle.
Okay.
That's a bit of a...
So what is your...
I'm trying to understand what is the argument here specifically.
We were talking about, you know, you were saying that guys just want younger, fertile women and women...
Men are more attracted to younger women, yes.
But you were saying that women only realize their value as they get older.
No, I mean, as in what you're saying...
No, you're saying that women, right, are...
Basically saying like women like these bad boys or whatever, you're saying that's not true.
I was saying if they have a strong foundation and they come from a nuclear family and they have a very strong father figure in their life and they're not just going after the bad boy.
That might mitigate it a bit, but they're still attracted to these things.
We're in Miami.
Women are still attracted to men that have status, that have money, that have Machiavellian traits where they're not necessarily being a nice guy.
My argument is chivalry is dead and women killed it.
You're saying that women appreciate chivalry if they come from a nuclear family.
I'm saying, yeah, that might mitigate it a bit, but even women that come from a two-parent household are still attracted to men that have certain traits that are bad boy tendencies, even if they come from a nuclear family.
That's my argument.
And all I was saying was that that's typically younger women because as women get older, they realize they don't want to be with the assholes anymore because the assholes typically cheat on them and typically treat them like crap.
And we're telling you, for the most part, men would prefer younger women.
Yeah, in response to that.
No, they may not marry them, but they prefer them.
Okay.
That's exactly the point.
So they'll sleep with them, and they'll use them, and they'll get rid of them, and then marry the 32-year-old.
Is that right?
I mean, ideally, though, if it goes well, they want to marry them, but, you know...
Well, she's talking about like the average guy, right?
If you gave a dude, right?
The option.
Honestly.
And honestly, hey, pick one.
Pull Instagram.
Yeah.
Honestly.
It's like, what would you want?
They're always going to want the younger, more attractive girl.
But unfortunately, not every guy has the ability and or the sexual market value to command that or the skill set.
Because dealing with younger, more attractive girls that want these bad boys, you have to have some level of game and understanding of female nature because they're going to test you more than an older girl will because an older woman, quite frankly, has...
Less value in the dating marketplace, at least.
You don't necessarily have to be a bad boy to attract a younger woman.
We're not saying every single time, but bad boy characteristics make you more attractive to a majority of women.
What are those traits?
What does that mean?
For one, being dominant.
A man that's a bad boy does whatever he wants.
He doesn't really care too much about what a girl wants.
He's taking lead in that sense.
Those traits being dominant are going to lead a woman to success.
Honestly, behaving like a woman, being narcissistic, being selfish to a degree, leading the interactions, being dominant, all these things make you way more attractive as a guy, which is exactly what nice guys don't do.
That sounds so healthy.
Do you think every woman is a narcissist?
Women are attracted to men that are assholes.
It depends on what the woman is looking for.
In a man.
Because at the end of the day, there's some women that look for a lot of feminine traits in men as well.
Because a lot of men naturally omit masculine traits.
So a lot of women sometimes look for men, look for in men that are feminine traits as well.
That attract a woman way more in this day and age.
Technically.
You think every woman is a narcissist?
Not a lot of women like the bad boy shit anymore.
That shit's so played out.
It's lame.
I asked and you said yes.
A woman that's from this day and age is saying that that bad boy shit's already played out.
Stop, man.
Stop.
Girls like guys that are bad boys.
Like, if you're going to sit here and say, wait, that's playing a girl.
Why are you going to tell me what kind of girl is not all girls?
I'm a young girl and I don't like that.
If you don't text me back after a whole day...
Just because you found Jesus right now doesn't mean that you didn't fuck with bad boys prior to this.
In high school, yeah.
Once you get older, you study, you realize your worth, you understand that they need to have both balance.
Why would I want a girl who's been ran through when she was younger?
You said what?
Why would I want a girl who was ran through in high school Once she's older.
So who killed romance then?
Women are men.
You guys, because you're running through everybody.
No, it's the women that killed the romance.
Because you guys gotta understand that men, women killed chivalry, women killed romance.
No, no, no.
Can we get it back?
It's both parties.
I'm gonna explain this.
No, no.
Yes.
Yeah.
Can you be quiet for two seconds and listen?
Because I'm gonna explain how women killed romance and chivalry.
Alright, let's do it.
What did I say before?
Men are deductive problem solvers.
Men realize that for me to get sex with attractive girls, I must display certain characteristics and tendencies that might not put the girl first, i.e.
be a fucking bad boy.
Because women control who fucks, correct?
Right?
Yeah.
Otherwise it's a crime.
Okay?
So since woman controls who fucks, men need to adapt to what women are attracted to and most importantly aroused by.
So being an asshole will get you more sex.
So why do men that fuck a lot of girls have certain similar tendencies?
Dan Bilzerian.
Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, all these guys that had a bunch of women, us, whatever it may be, they have certain asshole, Machiavellian traits because women are attracted to this.
And a lot of guys that want to get girls have to emulate these traits to a degree.
So women are the ones that created the death of romance and chivalry because you guys are the ones that picked that fuck.
Men are only going to adapt to what women provide.
But that's old, though.
Men are only going to adapt to the type of women that there are around.
You know, my 20-23-0.
It's not old.
It's not like you guys know about Gen Z.
I want to stop real quick.
That's your explanation?
It's old?
Yeah, it's old.
Who else has something responsible?
You guys can rebut what I just said.
You say men will fuck anything, right?
They'll fuck anything.
To a degree.
So if any man...
If I'm walking down the block and 10 guys are looking at me, trying to call me, of course I'm not going to be interested in any of those guys that are catcalling me.
So of course you're saying bad boy, the guy who doesn't care, who doesn't look at you, who doesn't give a fuck.
Someone will be like, oh, all these guys are looking at me, but this one guy won't.
I'm into that.
There you go.
Alright, does anyone else want to revert what I just said?
Revert means argue, right?
No, I'm not arguing.
The argument is simply that women killed romance and chivalry from their sexual selections.
Myron, that's what I'm arguing.
I'm saying women killed it and I just explained it to you that men are deductive problem solvers and they will do what they need to do to get laid, which means being an asshole or a bad boy to do so.
Does anyone have a rebuttal for that specifically?
No, but can I ask a question?
Do you think that we can get chivalry back?
No, nigga.
Probably not.
Let me tell you why.
Let me tell you why.
If we're gonna get chivalry back...
Women are going to have to regress in feminism.
And they're not doing that.
They won't do it.
They're not doing that.
Women want to have their independence, their ability to earn, their ability to be independent and single, whatever it may be.
That's cool.
But you cannot have the strength of feminism simultaneously while shivery is being practiced.
Because shivery in itself...
Goes against equality, which is what feminism preaches.
Chivalry is preferential treatment to a woman because she's a woman, which battles against feminism because feminism fights for equality.
Well, what are we supposed to do?
So we're the only fans.
Is it too late?
Yeah, there's just that one in a million time.
Did anyone else have something on that past arc?
Go ahead.
I see your analogy as flawed because, I mean, you're saying you're giving this bad boy aspect because of rejection.
That's the origin of it all.
Because you get rejected, you're gonna become an asshole to women.
Like, it's not like we're begging.
Don't open the door for me.
Don't purchase this meal.
Don't do this.
It's not like we're begging for it.
Yeah, there's different women who are more masculine, more, you know, negative towards your eyes.
However, you can't generalize all of us because of rejection.
The world works on generalities.
If I tell you that you have a 80% failure rate being a nice guy, most guys are going to say, damn, fuck that.
I'm going to be an asshole.
Of course, there's a minority of women that will appreciate flowers on a first date or you being a gentleman being nice and being a pushover.
Some girls might appreciate that, but most won't.
So since most won't, what do men have to do?
They have to go off of the probability and not the possibility.
You've made a lot of arguments for the possibility.
I'm telling you, I'm going off of probabilities.
If I want to increase my likelihood of getting laid, I must adapt and become a bad boy because that's what most women favorably respond to sexually.
Hold on, let her...
You have anything for that?
It goes both ways.
I mean, we should...
How does it go both ways?
With chivalry, I mean, as well, like, you can't...
You gotta respect to be respected.
You can't just plainly go off generalizations.
You go on a date with a woman who does appreciate it, but you turn out to be a dick.
How does that make you look?
Naturally, she's gonna reject you if you're a nice guy or a bad guy.
I mean, it just depends.
But if you connect with the person, that's just how...
That's what he's saying, though.
He's saying that not everybody...
We are not saying to be mean to women.
We're saying, for example, the traits of an asshole, so to speak, are dominant.
They lead things firsthand, and they don't give a fuck what women think off-rip.
However, if she deserves that gentleman-like behavior, then she'll get it.
But it can't be in an abundance either.
But what I mean, I don't understand what you're trying to...
What are you arguing here?
I mean, like, I believe...
Why is there a saying, nice guys finish last, and it's lasted for decades?
I mean, like, it depends on the guy.
If you're a creepo, we're gonna reject you, but...
But a lot of these creeps are nice guys, is my point.
But, Freshmarn, have these girls ever had a one-night stand before?
Like, tell me, who has not had a one-night stand before?
Who has not?
So, what, that's three out of, what, ten girls?
So, yeah.
So, girls actually reward guys who actually has their shit together on the first night.
So, why would guys want to, you know, wait longer?
Chris, shut up, man.
Shut up, bro.
There you go.
So, anyway, does that make sense?
Yeah, I can't deny that.
That jerks in general get more women.
It's just how it is.
That's old, not true.
No.
That's old?
It depends on the women.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
I would argue it's even more pronounced in today's day and age.
Not at all.
He's right, though, because a lot of women...
It depends on the type of woman that you are.
This is what I mean when I say women lack critical thinking skills.
Let me explain why you're 100% wrong.
The reason why you're wrong is because we have social media, we have dating apps, we have the internet.
Do women have more options now or 50 years ago?
Both parties have more options than 50 years ago.
Okay, stop.
I'm going to explain to you why you're wrong about that here in a second.
Do women have more options now or 50 years ago?
Both parties have more options.
Realistically speaking, who has more options, men or women?
Both parties.
Right now, I think probably men because they're women.
I don't know.
Both.
In discussions of what?
Sex or sex or relationship?
Stop.
Girls.
If we're going to have a logically sound conversation that isn't low IQ, we have to understand that men don't have nearly as many options as women, period.
Whether it was 1950 or now, most women find most men as unattractive.
That's a fact.
It's been proven on dating apps.
It's been proven all over the place.
There's a reason why she's a dating coach and probably most of her clients are men.
There's a reason why we got 12,000 plus people watching here on YouTube.
Women don't have issues with attracting men.
Men have a lot of issues with attracting women.
Can we argue, agree on that?
No.
No, because if you're an unattractive female, your options are...
No, I can't.
Hold on, hold on.
Kinder!
Plenty of fish.
Bumble.
There are plenty of fish.
And the men said earlier, how much percent that men are literally willing to fuck anything.
Like a huge percent.
They've done studies on this where they've literally taken a woman that's fat, obese, unattractive, and put her Tinder profile up and then put a man Tinder profile up that's in the top 1% of looks.
The woman had four to five times as many matches as that And that woman was absolutely deplorable looking.
So that's not even a point of argument.
A very attractive man has less pull than an average girl.
Even a below average girl.
Period.
I'm saying all that to establish the foundation of what me and you were talking about earlier when I said women have more options than men.
Now, going back to what I was saying, since women have more options than men, that lets them be more picky, correct?
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, so if you're more picky, that means that you're going to select a man that's better because you have more options, correct?
No, it's because what you said earlier, we have to carry a baby.
It's gestation.
And you know that.
Come on, Myron.
I've watched your show before.
I know that.
You should know then that if you watch the show that women look for men that have a bunch of different traits.
Tall, money, social status, security, strength, all these things.
Because we are carrying your baby.
You don't.
You don't.
That does not refute my points that women have more options than men do.
I'm creating a human with you.
If anything, that increases the chances of them being more selective.
Well, duh.
That's evolutionary psychology.
Like, what point are you making?
Well, if you would stop interrupting, I'd be able to do so.
She's just having a conversation.
My whole point is that chivalry is dead because women have more options than they've ever had before thanks to the internet, dating apps, etc.
So therefore, why is a girl going to sit there and take roses from the nice guy when she has a bad boy NBA player sliding in her DMs if she's attractive enough?
Yo, shut the fuck up!
Everybody shut the fuck up.
If I'm talking, shut up until I make my point.
The reason why you guys keep interrupting with asinine comments is because you don't let me finish from saying what the fuck I'm saying.
You're the one who's getting triggered right now.
You told us to not get triggered.
Be quiet.
Because you guys have been interrupting the entire time.
And then you asked me stupid questions because I'm about to answer, but I can't...
It's not stupid questions.
I think she got it.
But I got you.
You think that's funny?
What?
When you talk, we don't mess you up.
No, it's not funny.
But I don't like being...
You think it's funny, though?
I don't like someone saying, shut the fuck up.
Because you've been interrupting several times.
I've counted it.
It's been over five.
As I've been trying to make this one point.
I mean, he told me and I work her.
So relax, relax.
So if I'm making a point, be quiet.
Speak what's spoken to.
If you said quiet, I would have...
Shut up.
But see, here's the thing, though.
When you keep doing it, I have to let you know, hey, shut up.
That's fine, you can say shut up.
Okay then.
Shut up.
Anyway, so what I was saying was, the whole point, just to bring this back so this all makes sense.
I'm saying chivalry is dead.
Romance is dead.
Women killed it.
Okay?
My argument for that is because Instagram, online dating apps, etc.
Women have more options than ever before.
So since women have more options, they could be more selective.
Since they're more selective, they're going to screen harder for men that meet certain metrics since women have more options.
So therefore, nice guys didn't have a chance before.
Now they have even less of a chance because women have options that extend states.
A girl that's in L.A. can get a DM from a dude in New York, if her Instagram profile is good enough, and get flown out within a couple of days.
Women have more options now.
So therefore, why the fuck is a girl that's hot, that's in the middle of Topeka, Kansas, going to tolerate a guy locally next to her, giving her some flowers, saying, oh, you're so beautiful, when she can go ahead and get flown out by another guy.
So if anything, today with internet and modern day society, it's made women even less appreciative of chivalrous and nice guys.
That's my argument.
Now I'm trying it to y'all.
The thing is, the internet is way more desperate now.
So the thing is, men are more desperate.
But he's not saying that everybody's like that.
My point is that he's saying chivalry is dead.
The thing is, men have become more desperate in this day and age, which is why women become way more or less.
It's way more easier to select a man because men are so easy to jump on any woman, on anything that they can.
That doesn't refute my argument.
Especially on the internet, dating ass, because 9 times out of 10, because the thing is, a lot of men do catfishing.
A lot of men pretend to be something that they're not.
So, at the end of the day, so...
How does that refute my argument?
What's your point?
How does that refute my argument?
I love you, but it doesn't.
And we all, as women, want to say that that's not what's true, but it is.
It is, because the thing is, like, when you get something...
Constantly, you get used to it.
You don't appreciate it.
You don't want the nerd next door that's being nice to us and trying to take us out because he's freaking ugly, but we want the fucking guy that's trying to take us out.
All right, look, I get that you guys agree.
I'm going to turn this to girls that disagree.
I disagree.
Hold on, okay.
What did I say that was incorrect there?
Because the whole point is women kill chivalry in romance, and I explained why.
Go ahead.
Wait, what are you asking me?
Stupid So, I'm giving you the opportunity now to respond to what I said.
It's both parties.
Both parties killed it.
It's like you're both contributing to the same thing because you're both hurt, you're both lost.
It starts from the family foundation.
Like, if your family is dysfunctional, you're gonna naturally want toxic stuff.
I'm not talking about the why.
I'm telling you what is.
Can you refute what I just said about why chivalry is dead?
And women killed it.
That's my stance.
It's both parties.
It's both parties.
But who is the larger contributor to the death of chivalry and romance?
Men or women?
I said it's women and I gave an argument for why.
Yeah.
Can you refute that?
It's both parties because men hurt that woman and now she turned into a player and now she playing everybody.
Now she hurting their good boy and the good boy is hurting others.
It's like a chain that goes, you know?
So it's both parties.
Okay, you said she got hurt.
Yeah.
Who hurt her?
Bad boy, right?
Who picked the bad boy?
She didn't know probably.
But who picked him?
She did because she didn't have a good foundation in her family.
She picked the bad boy.
Because she didn't have a good foundation in her family.
Did I not say that women pay cool fucks?
Okay.
She didn't have a good foundation in her family.
Did I not say that?
Yeah, that's cool because she didn't know who she was.
But they're still picking.
Right, but they'll figure it out.
You know what I'm saying?
If they're not continue being lost in that path.
My argument is that women killed romance and chivalry and you just proved it again in your statement.
It's not just women.
Have you ever lied or manipulated to get laid?
Have you ever lied or manipulated?
Every single guy's done that.
So there's no onus on the man for doing that.
Again, what did I say before?
Men are deductive problem solvers, correct?
So if men want to get laid, they realize that being honest with women, being a nice guy doesn't work.
So how do they adapt?
And then women who are these beautiful young ladies age, realize and start to put together the patterns and the pieces that, oh, wait a minute.
He is being an asshole.
He is manipulating me.
He is not a good guy.
And then they wake up.
They wake up.
And go, oh, I know that pattern.
I know that gaslighting pattern.
I know that Machiavellian pattern.
It's not true.
Whose fault is it, though?
If she's choosing, for example...
Why?
Okay, I love you guys, but this is the part that drives me crazy about your show, is the black and white thinking and the blaming.
It doesn't do anything.
It's not supposed to be looking at a woman...
Why don't you guys make unity?
Why don't you guys make it understand that it's both parties that's contributing to it?
I get it that you're trying to bash women.
I understand that that's the main thing.
How do we bash women?
It's true, though, because he's focusing on women, though.
It's true that he's focusing on women.
Actually, we're hard on men.
It's both parties.
The point is that They're trying to look at it from a realistic point of view.
As me, I'm a woman's woman.
I agree with everything, but I also agree with what they're saying.
You have to look at it at a realistic point of view of how things are real, not as a woman's woman and how we see things.
Because you guys are all right, but they're also right.
You have to look at it.
Wait, what?
I didn't say they're wrong.
Okay.
I didn't say they're wrong.
I said they're contributing.
I said both parties are contributing.
I said both parties are contributing.
You didn't listen.
I'm listening.
I'm just saying they're not bashing women, though.
The women control who fucks.
If you control something, that means you have authority and, most importantly, responsibility.
Correct?
So therefore, if women are the ones that have the authority over who fucks, with authority comes responsibility.
You're trying to take accountability from the girls saying, Well, they got manipulated and the guy lied.
The guy lied and manipulated in direct response to how women mate select.
Which is what?
The bad boy.
Brings it all full circle.
Women mate select based off of competencies.
A lot of men show sociopathic tendencies.
Exactly.
The way the man portrays himself.
So the women are obviously going to fall for the way the man portrays himself.
This is the biggest hope I've ever seen in my life.
Women are not taking accountability.
I'm not saying that the women are taking accountability because the women will fall for whatever the fuck she wants to feel like falling for.
But at the same time, the man knows better.
Because at the end of the day, the women will show to cook and clean and be in the kitchen and shut the fuck up.
Why are you so loud?
That's my point.
I'm so sorry about that.
Because she has something to say.
I'm sorry.
I'll go on my tongue.
I'll go on my tongue.
All you guys have been doing is making excuses and not taking accountability.
No one's making excuses, but my thing is at the end of the day, you're trying to prove man is right.
Man is right.
Woman is wrong.
At the end of the day, you're going to prove man is right.
I'm going to show equality.
Equality.
There it goes.
What did I ever say?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on one second.
Stop, stop.
How did I say man is right?
My point is, you're saying, you literally said your words yourself, women are wrong.
Women are at fault.
Women are horrible people.
You said it with your own words.
You said that.
No, you didn't.
You said that.
No, no, no.
In other words, the thing is, it's context.
It's context in the way that I want you to say it.
Pause, pause, pause.
When did you say that?
Please tell me.
Why did I say man wrong?
Like I said, it's context.
Anyone can read between the context.
Like I said, it's context.
Like I said, it's context.
I'm not lying.
It's context.
If you use psychologically and you read between the lines, it's context.
If you're intelligent, you can read between the lines and you can read context.
That's my point.
My point is you're trying to point I'm well aware of what we're debating.
The women are the fault of why chivalry is dead.
The thing is chivalry is dead because women in this day and age act like bitches.
They act like women.
Why can't we this?
Why can't we this?
Why can't we that?
They want to act like the women in this day and age.
I'm not blaming women in this day and age.
My point is...
Like I said...
Like I said, at this day and age...
At this day, I'm not disrespecting.
And when you guys tell me to order my tone, I don't order my tone.
And when you guys tell me to be quiet, I be quiet.
I don't talk over anybody, nor do I disrespect anybody.
Who is more responsible for the death of romance and chivalry?
Like I said, the thing is, romance in this day and age is ruined because of social media.
It doesn't have to do with a specific person.
It has to do with a certain platform.
The thing is, social media has negative...
It negatively impacted people.
People in general.
But who has it affected more negatively when it comes to dating?
People.
If we have to pick one of the two genders of people.
It's not about that because at the same...
See, you don't want to have that discussion.
Yeah.
If you want to sit here and virtue signal...
I never said...
I never said I didn't want to have that discussion.
...and not make actual real conclusions.
The thing is, you're trying to point a finger and blame somebody.
I'm not trying to blame anybody.
Because what good does it do to blame one gender?
Because everyone has their own opinion.
Your opinion is biased.
Just like my opinion is biased.
You believe what you believe in.
I believe what I believe in.
Hold on, hold on.
The difference between me and you is I gave a very logically sound reason based on numbers and data.
To you.
Why?
To you.
Chilverine romance is dead and I'm arguing that women are the ones that killed it because women are the ones that pick your shot up.
That's an opinion.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay, but don't tell her to shut up.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I'm on their show at the end of the day.
I don't know what you guys think this is, but this is our platform, our podcast.
You guys are here as guests.
You're using women to talk about your platform.
I'm going to let you talk.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
It's your platform.
It's your platform.
I don't care.
So if I'm saying something, I'm not speaking.
I'm not going to sit here and tell her you talking over me.
Okay.
Of course.
Go ahead.
I'm the host.
I'm moderating it.
You're here as a guest.
Understand your role and your position.
Respect the platform.
You, your little side comments.
You need to stop.
This is now the second time I've warned you about it.
Okay?
Because once again, when I do give you a chance to say your piece, you don't say anything.
You don't make any real arguments or no real points or anything.
You're just arguing to argue.
Which is fine if you want to argue in bad faith.
But just understand that makes you look fairly foolish.
Alright?
Yes, it does.
I'm just being honest with you.
It does.
Because you've not actually been able to refute the entire argument, which I'm saying.
Men and women, right?
Chivalry is dead.
And romance is dead because women killed it.
I'm not going to accept that, though.
That's fine.
You don't have to accept the truth.
Right.
So that's not the truth, though.
That's your opinion.
It's your opinion.
And I'm saying that from a respectfully point of view.
Like, literally.
I literally just outlined why romance and chivalry is dead.
And I told you it's from the family.
It starts from the family.
It starts from the family.
Hold on.
You're talking about the why.
I'm talking about the what.
The why is irrelevant.
I'm not asking you why should...
I'm saying who was...
For me, the what is both parties for me.
I love you.
Incredible.
The whole point was who has more to blame?
Yeah.
Honestly, the problem can be solved from the root cause.
What's the root cause?
Unfortunately, it's...
Both parties.
No, no.
What's the root cause of the problem, though?
Go ahead.
You can go.
No, no.
He's talking to you.
Both parties.
One party has to be more than the other.
It can't be in the middle, though.
That's what you guys don't understand.
It has to be one.
If women controls who fucks, therefore they have responsibility over that authority.
Sure, yes.
I agree with that.
But that doesn't mean that's fully women, though.
We're just saying who has more of a majority stake in the issue.
And it's women.
It's simple.
So if I make my husband mad and he beats the shit out of me, it's my fault, too.
What caused the problem?
We're not saying that's right, but what caused the problem?
I don't know.
It's not right, but what caused the problem?
Well, it doesn't matter, does it?
And then once again, you chose the man and it's going to beat your ass.
like zero like we're ill you're gonna pick this when it's you got oh my god but then is it though it's like no man if you get power responsibility comes with power so so there's no onus on somebody gaslighting you for a year and a half
How many have you been in a toxic relationship?
And did you believe that that person Hold on.
Did you believe that that person, did that person come and portray himself as a different person in the beginning?
Sociopathic tendencies, like I said.
Okay, so...
Sociopathic tendencies.
So, Fresh, what's the argument?
What's the argument is we were talking about somebody getting beaten, and that is the woman's fault.
If the man decided to present himself as a different human being in the beginning and change, this goes for men and women.
So what's the argument?
You're saying to me that there's someone to blame, and my argument to you was that would it be my fault if my husband beat me?
And you're coming at me saying...
You're saying it's her fault.
Let's say I chose a woman, right, that was nice to me in the beginning.
It was a snake.
She was using me for my money, playing me.
Whose fault is that?
It's your fault that you felt a liar?
Did you not hear the irony in my voice?
Did you not pick that up?
Yo.
Yo, I just flipped it for you.
And I said, I said, wait, I'm sorry.
It's my fault.
It would be your fault that you fell for someone like that?
I took responsibility for my choice.
That is not true.
You did not.
I picked a woman that was not good for me.
That was my problem.
My fault.
You told a man I beat your ass.
That's your fault.
What are you talking about?
It is irrational.
You've seen it from a logical point of view.
You've seen it from a logical point of view.
Don't stay.
Leave right away, because that's wrong.
But ultimately, you chose a man that could beat you.
But these women, did you stay?
Did you stay when you found out that he was toxic?
What are you trying to say?
She's been waiting, actually.
Nobody jumps to our relationship expecting something bad to happen.
You know?
You can meet a guy from a girl's perspective, because I'm a girl.
He can be the nicest guy ever, give you everything.
And you can, you know, you cannot fall for what you see, for what he's giving you, right?
And then people, not even guys, like people in general.
They start showing the true colors when they get what they want.
I agree.
Right?
Yeah.
Right.
When you realize, damn, this nigga's actually an asshole.
That's when you as a person is like, okay, I leave.
If you stay, then that's your fault.
Thank you.
That's it.
That's not how to say it.
So the point is, ultimately speaking, we as adults make choices.
For example, as she was a woman, she's good at the beginning, but then it turns bad.
It is still my fault.
I'm being accountable.
You on the other hand are saying, oh, it's the man's fault.
No, it is your fault because you told me.
When did I... Hold on.
I did not say that.
I did not say that.
I said if the person lies and is deceptive and you fall for that, I don't believe that that's the person's fault.
So you're basically saying that the person that lied...
Hold on.
No, you didn't...
First of all, you didn't hear the irony in my voice.
I did not say that it was your fault.
I was saying it sarcastically.
You didn't catch that.
Did I say...
Girls, like, back me up here.
Thank you very much.
You're saying that once you...
Hold on, hold on.
You're saying the minute that you find out that somebody's deceptive, up until that point, up until, let's say, three months, you put a mask on.
We don't know who you are.
And then all of a sudden, you come out as a wife-beater.
That first three months that you were deceptive, it is not my fault.
That is your fault.
Nah, you should have kept...
I never shifted the blame from it being my fault.
You're testing it.
I said from the very beginning, I chose wrong.
Even though she tricked me, I chose wrong.
How would you know?
That's the point.
How would you know?
That's the problem with dating today.
You don't take the time to vet somebody.
You just rush into things.
You said multiple times.
You chose to be with someone that's a man.
But hold on, hold on.
The guard is good because guess what?
That guard keeps you safe until you figure out who the person is.
The thing is, even when you find out who the person is, the guard was still up.
You never let it down.
So when you find out who they are, you don't care.
The whole point is that you make a choice in life and it's your responsibility to deal with that choice.
I'm just saying, you had the argument earlier, okay cool, you find a man, he's lying to you at the very beginning, he's faking it, he's evil.
Awesome.
But ultimately speaking, you still chose the guy.
So responsible means, you know what?
He's a bad person.
I'm going to leave.
That's it.
That's all I'm saying.
But that's what you do when you find out who that person is.
Yes.
You don't know that before.
So how would that be my fault if I didn't know that the person that...
I had no idea they were a complete fraud.
How would it be my fault?
Same thing vice versa.
In the law...
of the land.
Does being naive take away all blame?
Younger girls who have no experience in dating?
Of course they're naive.
Of course they don't have experience.
Once again, it's an adult 18+.
Being naive does not take away the issue.
The point is that as an adult, you make a choice here.
Man or woman, it doesn't matter.
Ultimately speaking, the man makes a choice, you make a choice.
We're just saying, for example, take accountability, be responsible.
Here's the thing.
I'll be honest.
A lot of y'all have just been dodging accountability with your answers.
All I'm saying is that this all started Chivalry is dead, romance is dead, and women killed it because women are the ones that pick who fucks.
Since you pick who fucks, that means you have the responsibility of who fucks.
Guess who fucks?
Assholes fuck most of the time.
The same toxic fuckboys that you guys complain about are the ones that fuck.
So therefore, those are guys getting most of the girls.
You talk about options and choosing, you know what the term gold digger means?
Yes.
Yes.
So someone like you who's famous, has a podcast, all these things, I'm sure you get DMs from women all day long probably.
Not as much as y'all think.
Well, either way, you're getting a lot of DMs because of this podcast.
No, no, no, no.
See, this is...
I mean, here's the thing.
No, look, this is a fallacy that women think.
This is how on easy mode women live.
You guys realize that a guy that's a celebrity has less pull than an average chick when it comes to dating and relationships?
Think about it.
Strip clubs, clubs, dating coaches, pornography, etc.
That entire industry exists because men struggle with women.
OnlyFans.
The biggest problem with men and women is that men's brains are automatically in their dicks and women are more mature than men.
That's why the biggest problem is between men and women because men are more immature than a lot of shit that comes to relationship and maturity than men.
I'm talking about relationships.
I'm talking about relationships.
I'm talking about relationships in general.
When it comes to relationships, women are more mature than men.
Women are more mature than men.
Yes.
Okay, so if women are more mature, they're the ones that pick who fucks, correct?
Thank you.
Whose fault is it?
Like I said, the thing is, the thing is, psychologically, sociopathic tendencies.
Sociopathic people will present themselves to you in a way that they want you to perceive them.
Answer the question.
That's my point.
The thing is, if someone is acting a certain way...
Calm down.
You need to calm down.
Here's a question.
You said, you made a statement that women are more mature than men.
So my argument is, okay, cool.
Women are more mature than men.
Men are blaming shivery on women.
If women are more mature, that means that they have the responsibility of picking the guys they fuck, right?
The thing is, that's why women are more able to...
Okay, you guys wanted me to talk, but you're not...
My point is, you guys didn't want me to talk over...
Okay, can I speak?
Can I speak?
But like I said...
Wait, listen.
For the podcast, right?
Yes.
Please stop talking over the host, please.
If you're more mature, please stop talking over people, okay?
One mic at a time.
Calm the fuck down.
Stop yelling into the mic because the audience right now, they're complaining, okay?
Yeah, and you're kind of going on random tangent rants that don't necessarily deal with the topic at hand, but if you're going to make the assertion that women are more mature than men, therefore that means they have more responsibility than men, so they pick the guys that fuck, so therefore they have the responsibility of killing chivalry, right?
My statement in stating that women are more mature than men is in the fact that women can depict the bullshit faster than men can.
That's my point.
That's my point.
Stop real quick.
- If women can go ahead and pick up on the bullshit, right, fast, that means that they have even more responsibility for picking the bad boys, right?
- They don't, they don't pick up-- - One at a time. - She made her bed, sleep in, go ahead.
- End it now.
- You're digging yourself in the hole.
- My point is that the thing is, I didn't say when it is that women depict on men's bullshit.
The thing is, men go like, oh, nice guys always finish last.
Finish chivalry is always dead.
The thing is, is because men always decide to show the true cutters once the bed is already made.
But women are better at picking up character, right?
And they're better at maturity, right?
Did I say that women are better at picking up on maturity and on character?
I didn't say that.
The thing is, did I say when it is that women depict on maturity and when it is specifically?
No, I said that women do pick up on shit faster than when men would do.
It is.
You're using a lot of words that don't make sense and don't coincide with what you're trying to say.
I think you're using some of the definitions incorrectly, which is why we might not be able to understand you.
The thing is, you don't understand me.
It's not that men don't understand me.
It's that you specifically don't understand me.
The whole chat is confused by what you're saying.
Like I said, the thing is, you're incorrect and onto depicting...
I mean, you don't make sense in your arguments.
I'm just sorry.
That's just what it is.
To you.
I don't know.
To you.
I don't know what's happening.
You got 13,000 people right now that are confused and don't know what you're saying.
Let me tell you 13,000 people.
Fuck you.
How about that?
Can we define...
Hold on.
Yo, what is your problem?
Nothing.
What's your problem?
Why do you disrespect the audience for no reason?
Yeah.
Because I can.
Yo, Ho Depot, leave, man.
Yo, get out of here, bro.
No, no, no, no, no.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
Ho Depot, man.
Dumb bitch.
Fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, you are a bitch.
Because you know why?
Because you said fuck you to the audience, man.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
Hey, hey, leave, man.
Ho Depot, man.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
All that shit, man.
Don't go fuck, man.
Hey, you know what?
Let's respect the homeboys.
Chris, you got no ass, nigga.
Yeah, no ass, man.
No, chill.
Yo, she went to home, because she needs fucking wood for her ass, man.
Blimey's whoops.
Carhole depot.
Yeah, just whatever, bro.
That's ridiculous.
I mean, come on, man.
Make an ass of yourself on the show for no reason.
Okay, keep talking about me.
No one cares, bro.
Just leave.
Walk out.
Just embarrass your guy that you were seeing for three weeks.
Getting kicked out in front of 14,000 people.
With all due respect.
Can we have a discussion, though, on what you would consider a nice guy.
What are those qualities?
Because I think that where I'm trying to come from is not so black and white.
What can we teach men?
The gray area.
What is the gray area?
How can you be both?
Because I know that both of you Are kind men, but you display traits of competencies, such as you own your own business, you're very successful, you're very hardworking.
I would argue that the traits that women are looking for are those that you display.
Before we move on to that topic.
Did anyone have anything on the chivalry thing before we move on to that one?
I've been trying to talk for a while.
For future reference, could you call on me when I raise my hand?
Because I'm not the type of person to budge and interrupt anybody.
So when you're ready to call on me, please do.
So I have a rebuttal regarding a prior topic.
So going back to the fact that women have more options and all that such...
So what I believe is that who set that system up?
It's not like, you know, naturally, like you said, around 75% of men go to just a bunch of...
I'm sorry, let me go back with that.
Men tend to go to just a bunch of women.
It's obvious it's going to happen that we're going to get a bunch of options, and we can't accept everybody.
We're just going to accept who we see as...
Ideal.
And that goes both ways.
I know that you would pick the ideal woman in your mind, and why is it wrong for us to pick the ideal man?
Well, women don't earn their abundance.
Can you elaborate, please?
So, for example, you're 18 years old, right?
Yes, sir.
You are unemployed right now.
You can be on a boat tomorrow with a bunch of millionaires.
Me, on the other hand...
Technically speaking...
I'll have to buy the boat.
I'll have to get it chartered.
I'll have to pay for it.
There's certain opportunities that women are afforded simply by being females that men would never be able to get.
Is that abundance for us, though?
That's what I mean.
It's an experience, but is that really ours?
Is that us?
Do we own that?
No, I agree with that.
Women have options that men will never...
No, I agree with that.
You make it seem like it's...
You said abundance as if...
I don't know.
Maybe I understood you wrong.
Yeah, you did.
What I mean by this is that men have to earn their abundance.
And what I mean by that, a man that can attract a lot of women is doing a lot of things right.
A woman that can attract a lot of men didn't have to earn that.
If she's attractive enough, she was born that way.
Cool.
Fantastic.
I mean, I'm sure you guys have seen a bunch of dumb girls that have rich boyfriends or a rich guy that they're dating.
Competence is not necessary for women, but it is necessary for men.
So we're not the same.
I would 100% agree with that.
Does that answer your question?
I mean, you're the one that brought this up.
Does that answer?
I'm sorry.
I was distracted.
I'm gonna be honest.
Could you repeat that, please?
Jesus Christ.
Okay.
Anything else on that?
No.
I'll be honest with y'all.
A lot of you guys have not made good arguments whatsoever, but no one cares because you're females.
Competence is not required in females.
No, I'm gonna...
Honestly, for me, I... I gave you a chance to make a...
Why do you get so angry so fast?
No, no, no.
It's not about getting angry.
It's about...
I gave you a bunch of opportunities to make competent arguments and you failed every time.
How do you know that?
Because you...
Who said that?
That's only you.
It's on camera.
Yeah, it's on camera.
It's two hours into the show.
Yeah, and that's your audience.
They're not my audience, so it's like...
You know what?
Ask the audience, man.
You're speaking to the audience.
No, I don't need to ask the audience.
I respect the audience, but that's your opinion.
It's the audience.
We've given you the opportunity on multiple occasions.
Yeah, but who says I'm wrong, though?
See, you're not even letting me finish.
You are incorrect.
Go ahead.
I debunked, I said, hey, I lined it out from A to Z, why women killed chivalry and romance.
I talked about online dating.
I talked about the globalized sexual marketplace.
I talked about the abundance of options that women have, which makes them more selective.
Because if I got a bunch of guys hitting me up in California, when I'm in New York, well, the guys that are local to New York and me, if they're not hot enough and the guys in California I'm going to go to them.
So that has directly influenced that women have less of a tolerance for losers.
Nice guys, a lot of the times, don't meet the same things that women want.
So if another guy in another state is more attractive, I'm going to go to that.
That's all I'm saying.
Women kill chivalry because they have more options nowadays.
The whole argument started because I said, romance and chivalry is dead.
Women killed it.
And I said that in today's day and age, it's even more so pronounced because of online dating and Instagram.
And also, it could be the illusion.
Hold on.
Let's see if you have anything for that.
What did I say that was incorrect about that?
You said I'm wrong.
I made the point that was wrong.
That wasn't, like, you know...
No, I'm saying you didn't debunk anything I said.
No, because, I mean, I don't really care about that point.
That's what you quite literally got angry about in the beginning, why we even had this discussion.
I didn't get angry.
I get passionate.
You get angry.
So it's not about that.
It's like both parties.
But yes, sure.
Women killed it.
I'll agree with you if you want me to.
But they both have their standards.
They both have their contributes.
You can have your opinion.
So there you go.
You said that I'm wrong.
I didn't make good points.
But I made some good points and I made some maybe bad points.
But so do you.
You didn't make any point.
I think there are holes that are missing in your argument, Myron, with all due respect.
I think that, yes, women are more picky because from an evolutionary standpoint, we have to be.
There are certain things that women look for.
Does that mean that because we killed chivalry?
Because women have always been sexually selective.
Yeah, but I'm saying it's more pronounced in 2023.
Yeah, and you're 30 and single right now, so no ring.
I'm sorry.
I thought on your platform you tell men not to get married.
Disregard what he said.
What I'm saying, well, men and women is different.
But what I'm saying is that my argument is that...
So I would marry the nice guy then?
Is that what you're saying?
No, I am saying, going back to what I was saying is that shivering romance is dead and it's even more so pronounced in the social media age where women have more options.
I don't see how chivalry was killed by women.
I don't see how...
Women literally punish nice guys.
My God, it's both parties.
Can we move on from this point or we can't?
If you want me to agree, sure, women killed it.
It's not about it being both parties.
I'm saying women stimulated and started it.
Women have more responsibility.
Men have A role in that.
Women can't just go kill it.
But who's more responsible?
Who's more responsible for the death of shivery?
Both parties.
No, it is women.
Both parties.
It's his women.
You hate women so much.
Why?
Why do you hate women so much?
They made it in the beginning.
If I make a criticism, a valid criticism about how women do things.
That's your point.
Your point of view is saying that you're valid.
You're making your point valid.
You're saying to yourself that I'm valid.
If I say to myself that I'm valid, then I'm valid too.
Who's saying that you're valid?
You have to have points and statistics.
Your mentality is from where you were born and it's the things that you've seen.
The things that I've seen is different.
The things my generation have seen is kind of different.
I understand, but at the same time, you're stuck in a mentality that's like, That's your point of view.
How do you have a statistic that chivalry is dead?
Is it dead in the big cities?
Is it dead in the Midwest?
Is it dead in Europe?
Is it dead across the world?
Can we just agree that people have different experiences?
Your personal experiences might not necessarily reflect how the world works.
What I am simply saying is that chivalry and romance is dead.
And the reason why is because women are more sexually selective.
Instagram, social media.
The reason why is because women are bandwagging around other thought women.
Can I finish my point?
Which is what you want to portray.
Let him finish.
See what I mean?
Let him finish.
I'm trying to articulate what I'm saying, but you're not listening.
You're just talking.
I've been raising my hand.
Shut up, bitch!
I don't know.
What is your problem?
Jonathan, I don't have a problem.
I really want to be vocal on this podcast.
Every time I've given you a chance to speak, you've said things that don't necessarily make sense or you don't have a point.
That's your opinion.
No, I haven't.
I promise you, I barely speak.
You know what?
Let's see what you got to say.
Go ahead.
I just wanted to say that I feel like people, like men and women, we need to understand that we have different experiences and that there's a lot of women that go after different lifestyles.
So there's some women that definitely want a man to provide and to pay for everything and this and that.
But there's some women that actually want to help, to be there, to actually like love and take care of their man.
Most women are not like that.
What if I told you a majority of women want a man that's a provider?
That's them.
That's just their...
No, that's me, baby!
Let's go!
A majority of women want a provider.
That's a fact.
I mean, every woman should want that, but at the same time, you should have your own life too.
You know what I'm saying?
You should be providing for the world as well.
It's cool.
You having kids, that's you having a ministry, that's you having a service.
So if your man is going out and providing, that's cool.
But if she wants to go ahead and provide for the world as well, that's her too.
Both are right.
Women, most of the time, don't want to be the primary breadwinners in their relationship.
Okay, maybe I'll do.
Really?
Are you most women?
Are you most women?
No, not most women, sure.
So why are you making an argument for the exception of a minority?
Most women, sure, yeah, sure.
So what are you arguing then?
If you're going to make an argument for an exception to the rule, then why are you arguing?
Okay, there's exceptions.
See what I mean now when I say competence isn't your thing?
There's exception, but I'm saying there's exception though.
The exception is irrelevant.
It's irrelevant because a majority of women overwhelmingly want a provider that pays most of the bills.
Majority, but not all.
Did we say all?
No, I'm just saying that's it.
A staggering majority.
So we're not talking about things that are statistically insignificant.
So why are you bringing it up?
I don't know.
I just want to say that there's exceptions.
That's what I'm talking about.
So did you make your point before?
I still...
I don't know why you needed to interject that when I was simply explaining why romance and chivalry is dead.
I just, honestly, I feel like social media, because this is how I feel.
I feel like women do care about men and what they think and how they, like...
Really, but you keep interrupting.
I'll shut up if you want me to shut up.
Finish your point.
Go ahead.
I'm just finding it interesting that this is what you were trying so hard to get in, but it's not necessarily aligning with what I was trying to say earlier.
Go ahead.
It's not refuting it either, but continue.
I'm not saying it's going to align with what you're saying.
It's my point.
It's just what I want to say.
You know, I want to say that different people have different lifestyles that they want to achieve.
So making a general point off women is really detrimental to all women because you may say, okay, all women want a bad boy, but I'm over here giving the nice guys a chance and they treated me bad because they think that I want a bad boy.
I don't.
Didn't hide your tits, man.
Hide my tits?
I never said all.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I just said that women in general prefer bad boys.
This is how I want to look.
I feel sexy.
I feel beautiful.
Wait, that made no sense.
Why would you even make that comment?
That was dumb.
Who?
About her tits.
That's dumb.
Who made a comment?
Who was it?
Hide her tits.
What does that have to do with anything?
Because bad boy wants tits, man.
Everybody wants tits.
I don't care what you want, Poppy.
Do you want a nice guy to want guys?
What the heck?
Did you finish your point?
Again, I didn't refute what I was saying.
You want to go on with the next topic?
Go on, Poppy.
Look, I don't need the disrespect.
I don't need the sarcasm.
Again, I was trying to make a point and I thought that you were going to go ahead and say something that refute my point, but you didn't.
You made a Be honest with you, a nonsensical claim that everyone has different experiences.
Cool, but the world works in generalities.
Women typically want a certain archetype of man.
Women are attracted to very biologically programmed things in men.
You making an argument for a minority of women that might not want that, That's irrelevant, just like what she said before.
Okay, so let's say women do want a man that provides.
What do you want me to say to that then?
That's the truth.
That's the truth.
But you're making an argument for some don't.
Some want to be, you know, contribute as well.
What's the bad point then?
If I do want a man that's going to be there for me and is going to love me and is going to provide for me and show his love other than ways that are sexual, how does that make me...
I'm confused.
You're proving his point further.
You want to provide her?
She just wanted to talk, man.
Fun be a thousand.
You're acting as if a man doesn't demand shit from a woman, though.
Yeah, because you're demanding sex out of me, but what's the problem?
It's not even sex.
A lot of men demand a lot of stuff from a woman as well.
Get out of here, man.
A lot of women, you got to do this.
You got to cook.
You got to clean.
You got to take care.
You got to be able to hold your own.
And the thing is, you can ask me, but don't ask me for too much because then you're leeching off of me.
And in this day and age, if you don't hold your own some way, some sort of shit or form financially, No, no, no.
In Miami.
In Miami, at least.
Because I'm born and raised here.
That's one city, though, out of how many...
Okay, but I'm talking about from my experience.
If you can't hold your own, you're a bum.
I understand that, but you do realize that your experience might not necessarily reflect how the world works.
I'm not just only talking about the world.
The thing is, men realize that a lot of things that men provide, women provide as well.
Hold on, again.
You realize you're made from a mother.
A lot of the shit that you learned from is from a woman.
Can you stop talking for two seconds?
Go ahead.
You do understand that your 20 years of limited life experience might not necessarily reflect how the world works.
Do you understand that?
Because you're talking about your life experience in Miami.
That's a very nuanced and specific data set to pull from your personal experience, but that might not work how the world works.
Yeah, that's stats of one city of a million.
And her personal experience, which is, I mean...
What was the topic again?
Sorry, I'm a little...
See, a lot of girls are arguing.
What are you going to say?
What are you going to say?
Please pay attention when I respond this time, though.
I'm sorry.
So respectfully, I feel, I believe that what you said was very contradicting.
Such as?
Concerning when it comes to chivalry and the providers.
I mean, the case being, if the majority of women want a provider, wouldn't that mean the majority of women...
I'm sorry, let me get rid of my thoughts.
I know where I'm going with this, but it was me.
Have you ever had a dream?
I'm getting there.
I'm getting there.
So...
Come back to me.
I'm very sorry.
All right, man.
So yeah, we got some more chats here, bro.
This is great.
We need to rumble as well, by the way.
You want to know girls, right?
Huh?
No, I mean, this is hilarious, man.
No, this is the fun retort.
When can we ask questions?
What the hell?
When can we ask questions?
Let's just read them out and then go rumble.
No one else has anything for the chivalry thing that I mentioned?
No?
Well, you just said that women were naive when they're younger, right?
So it must be their fault that they're falling for assholes, huh?
Because they don't know any better?
Damn.
Right?
Did you just say that young women are naive?
Who said that?
Can I get a sound press?
Thank you!
That's it!
Just get a couple years on you and then you get a little more experience.
I believe what was stated, I didn't say this, but naivety is not an excuse for a lack of accountability.
That's what we said.
We need to say women are naivety.
Okay, so women are, say that again.
Okay.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what you said.
That's not what you said.
It's not what you said.
He basically said, naivety is not an excuse for not taking accountability.
That's what he said.
Naivety is not an excuse for not taking accountability.
How do you learn?
How do you grow as an individual?
Were you the same person that you were at 20 years old?
That's not the point of the discussion.
Myron, you're an amazing debater, and you like to go all over these other places.
Oh, shit.
You know what?
Let's go ahead and use that 18-year-old thing.
Let's say I decide to go rob a gas station.
I didn't know I'd go to jail for a very serious felony and do some serious time.
And the FBI is probably going to investigate it because it might be FBI insured.
I'm going to go to jail for 10 years federal time.
But it happened.
But guess what?
The system holds me accountable regardless of the fact that I was naive and didn't know what the consequences would be.
Same exact thing.
If you're an adult as a female, you pick who you have sex with and therefore you must deal with the consequences of having sex with said individual regardless of your knowledge at the time.
Now, is it fair?
No, blame is not fair.
Accountability is kryptonite for females.
This panel proves that.
You're so black and white in your thinking that there is no in-between.
And that is why we're not taking your so-called accountability because it is so...
You don't have to.
It's so black and white.
You don't have to.
It's an opinion.
There is no facts.
There's no statistics.
If you were presenting us with like 100%, this is how it is.
I think that all of us would agree.
I actually presented facts and statistics when I outlined why women are more, why chivalry and romance is dead.
And I use social media as a heightening factor for so.
That's still your opinion.
And also all the stats are here as well.
If you want to see them.
That's still your opinion.
What's my opinion?
Because you're using social media.
I could be using like, oh, because of cars were made and then that's how women get to do more stuff because cars were made.
That's like you're using social media.
You know what I'm saying?
That's your opinion.
We don't know what you're saying.
Right.
Because you don't understand.
First of all, define chivalry.
What does that mean?
Define nice guy.
Define what competencies are that women aren't.
There's so many different things and holes in your argument that aren't solid black and white facts.
We all know what the nice guy is.
The nice guy is a dude that puts a woman above himself.
He's being a sim.
He's going ahead and giving a woman a bunch of Unreciprocated attention and affection.
She might not necessarily like him.
She uses it to her advantage to get free dates and attention, whatever it may be.
That's the nice guy.
Because I've said it before, nice guys finish last.
Why has that been a saying for so many decades?
And men don't like clingy women.
It's the same thing.
It's just codependency.
It's just you don't have a high self-esteem.
So you present yourself in a clingy manner and you push people away.
They do like the clingy women when you have the DAs texting them on OnlyFans.
Most men go through life without experiencing a clingy woman in their lifetime.
That's the difference.
Men have to earn the ability to be even attractive enough to get a woman to be clingy in the first place.
Women, on the other hand, get a bunch of suitors that are nice guys, that are simps.
And what I'm saying is that thanks to social media and dating apps, women find 90% of men is unattractive on Tinder.
Women don't swipe right on about 85% plus amount on Bumble.
A woman on Instagram gets far more messages than a guy that is far more attractive than she is.
These are all facts and stats.
This is not my opinion.
It is what it is.
You have a dating business helping men.
Why?
Because men struggle with women.
That's a fact.
That's established.
One in three men right now isn't having sex with opposite gender between 18 and 30.
So therefore, why are all these numbers existing?
It's existing because women have more options now than ever had before.
Dating apps, social media, internet, etc.
So if a woman's able to go ahead and deal with a higher status man from across the country, she absolutely will now leave the nice guy in her local town fucking out of dates or flaked on.
That's the reality.
That's how it is.
Can we move on to the next topic?
There's the numbers.
Do you have anything for that?
Now that I gave you stats and numbers?
Can we move on to the next topic?
Look, we're going to move on when I say to move on.
Not when you feel like it.
Yes, sir.
And if you don't like it that way, that's fine.
You can get up and leave at any time.
Okay.
You got something?
So it's just a question.
I mean, if this, because naturally if you bring up this topic, it might be bothering you or it's a topic of interest.
Why is that bad that we have the right to reject an individual?
We don't have to pick everybody.
Why do you see it as negative?
I'm simply acknowledging it.
I'm not angry about it.
But we have to acknowledge the reality.
Women have more options, which directly changes how they may select and deal with the opposite gender.
Which is fine, by the way.
Okay, I can understand that.
We're not knocking you for it.
I'm just simply acknowledging it and saying it.
That doesn't mean I hate women if I tell the truth that women have more options.
Okay, I understand.
And women were already selective, as she said before.
Women were already selective from a biological sense since before then.
But now Instagram and social media has made it even more so.
A girl that's a five can date an NBA player.
Facts.
Lovely.
Anybody else have anything?
No?
Good to go.
Alright, so my chat's here.
I'll go to Rumble.
You got this fresh.
I gotta piss real quick.
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C. The Rain says, microchurism in human females, well, did I say it correctly?
I'll just move on.
In human females, they carry the DNA of past pregnancies and partners unprotected that is used for all future potential offspring.
Studies have found the DNA still lingering after 30 years.
No hymen, no diamond.
Oh, that's crazy.
What are they talking about?
For example, I think ejaculation in women lasts like 30 years.
That's crazy.
Which is crazy, bro.
That's crazy.
Haddonfield Games and Collectibles says, question for the ladies.
Do you have married female friends that escape plan if the marriage fails?
They have.
Does anyone have friends that know that?
Yeah, I do.
Who?
Do you know their plan?
Yeah, okay, so, my bad.
So, my one friend, she does have a little bit of a plan.
She got married, she's like 22, and he has signed the prenup, so she's ready to, I guess, you know, do the divorce, do the dash, because he said that he would sign either way.
So, I feel like she kind of has that set up already.
So, is it her prenup or his prenup?
His.
No, she signed, he signed hers, so hers.
Yeah.
Okay, so she, from the very beginning, did her own prenup for him to sign?
Yes.
Oh, wow.
Wait, question.
I mean, he would be very different from both of you guys in the sense that you guys would never put yourself in that position.
But I do have a female friend that has an escape plan for a marriage, if it fails.
So she came into it with a prenup?
Right.
Yeah, she's smart.
She's smart.
Who was it?
What's her name?
No, you can't.
I mean, I'll fake a name, but that would do nothing.
Thank you for sharing that.
Yeah, I can't say my best friend's name.
Yeah, women don't share resources.
Women don't share resources with men.
That's why.
They're way smarter about that.
Question for ladies.
What's the highest body count a man can have before you disqualify him?
Also, shout out to the Discord gang and joining you bums, Silky.
Okay.
So, okay.
Firefighter Jackson says, I'm 33, a firefighter in LA, a little over 200k a year.
Where do I find a woman who will join my team slash follow my lead?
I can't find them.
I'm extremely motivated and don't have time to argue or come home to a woman who is completely devoted to me.
We got you.
Ladies, where do you find this man?
OnlyFans.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
I want to...
Can I do this one?
Can I find a woman who would join my team and follow?
Is it join my team as in get in a relationship?
He's a leader.
She'll follow his lead.
He'll take care of her.
He wants to know he's making 200k a year.
How can you find this woman?
Where can you find her?
Go to church.
Go to book clubs.
Sign up for Facebook groups in your city.
Go to singles events.
Go to, you know, they have tons of stuff on Facebook where you can go to dating.
Relish is a great site, by the way.
Do rooftop bar events.
Yeah.
Slide into her DMs.
I mean, quality women are everywhere.
How would she join his team, basically?
How would she follow his lead?
Where would you find that type of woman, you would say?
When I'll follow his lead.
You have to vet women properly.
So a woman who is peaceful, a woman who can show up looking presentable, a woman that he would want to take home to his mother, who is respectful to his family, who honors the vision that he has set out for himself and for his family and what he wants to do.
He has to have a vision in the first place.
And if he presents that to her, I think that she would absolutely Be willing to follow his lead.
But I think that he has to present as somebody who has a plan.
And she has to...
Yeah, I mean, I think you ask questions like, do you want to be a mother?
How do you want to raise your kids?
Do you want to stay home?
The question that you just asked us, would you stay home?
Would you give up your career to be a stay-at-home mom?
If that's what he wants, then he shouldn't go for anyone else other than that.
Okay.
I have an opinion, but we'll leave that for later.
Alright.
You missed a very good point.
Come to me right now.
Ladies, do you want to switch to Rumble right now?
We've got a bunch more chats to read.
Well, you can still read them on YouTube.
We're going to Rumble, yeah.
Guys, come on over to Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Fresh to Fit.
Come on over right now, guys.
We're going to switch over.
Come on over right now.
We've got over 20,000 watching between the two of them.
Come on, guys.
Yeah, come on over.
Switch over to Rumble.
Rumble right now.
Alright, you're good, Chris.
Awesome.
Alright.
Okay, so you were still reading it, or did you want to go to the girls' questions?
Let's go first.
It's a bunch, bro.
Alright, what did you want to ask?
Go ahead.
Me?
Why did you not pursue becoming a passive?
There you go.
Okay, so that was seven years ago.
I was actually studying at my local church in Barbados, and I got the offer to go to Canada, Alberta, to be exact, to be a pastor.
However, one, I've never been in the cold, and it's going to be snowing over there.
And two, it was like, okay, if I take this route, after being in Canada, I don't have a visa.
I don't have a way to stay there other than going to the Christian church, school, whatever.
But ultimately, it's like, you know what?
Is this where I want to end up for my life?
And I figured to myself, you know what?
I want to be in where it's warm, where I'm used to.
So Florida's another option.
So I just came over here.
But were you called?
Did God call you to become a pastor or you just wanted to pursue because that was just a pastor thing to do?
Did God directly contact you in a very powerful way?
Or did you just think that it was just a way to go?
Well, I didn't think of myself.
Head Pastor recommended it.
But did you ever feel the Holy Ghost, the power of Jesus in that church?
Did you ever feel it?
Was it Holy Ghost driven?
Did you ever feel it?
Do you know what that feels like?
I did feel it.
The only thing is that I don't think, for me, That was the right choice.
And for example, if I made a choice to go to Canada, I would not be here right now.
No, it's not about Canada.
It's about your path, giving it to God, to building His kingdom.
So if you said you felt the Holy Ghost, if you have felt the Holy Ghost, you wouldn't.
I mean, you're going to follow His path.
It's not about the destination, but about spreading His kingdom.
So did you feel the Holy Ghost?
Was it Holy Ghost driven?
Did they cast out devils?
Because the church I go to, they cast out demons out of people right away.
They heal the sick.
Did you see that in the church?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
I'm just asking.
That's all.
Because the church I go to, they cast out demons out of people.
They heal the sick.
There's people that get healed from arthritis.
They have demons.
They have spirits.
And they get healed from it.
And we see them flying away.
Did you see that in your church?
And that's great, but that's not a question.
No, it is a question.
Did you see that happening in your church?
With your pastor, did he do that?
I mean, yeah, but don't you ask me.
Did he?
Did he do that?
Yeah.
Oh, he did?
Where was the church?
In Barbados.
Barbados.
So he casted out demons and he healed the sick and you still don't believe in the highest kingdom?
And you still don't believe that that wasn't enough for you to follow Jesus?
Okay, so as I was saying earlier, my life path would have been to go to Canada and become a pastor.
But it shouldn't be about, I'm so sorry, it shouldn't be about Canada.
It should be about you going anywhere to spread his kingdom, work for his kingdom.
So I'm going to answer your question here.
I have way more impact if I'm following Jesus Christ to do it right here.
But this is not Jesus Christ's platform.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm not...
Obviously following it to a T like I should be.
I'm just saying if I made a life choice, I think this would be more impactful than doing what I was going to do in Canada.
So ultimately speaking, I think I'm in the right spot right now.
Yeah, but this is not talking about God and how you're healing the sick and how you're casting out demons.
Because there are people in this platform, I guarantee you, that are dealing with depression, that are dealing with anxiety, that are dealing with spirits that they're not even aware of.
And you're not talking about Jesus.
You're just, you know, talking about things that are worldly.
So once again, like I said before, I'm not where I need to be to be spreading the message.
And also as well, I do do things behind the scenes, not really on camera, so to speak.
But maybe one day I may change.
But right now I'm not.
I hope you do, because if you were called, that means you still have a gateway to go.
There's only heaven and hell.
There's no in between.
So I think you know that, right?
Listen, you've been ran through, you got tattoos, like, in high school.
It's what it is, man.
Hey, sorry to say, hey, she's preaching shit.
I have tattoos of Jesus on my body too.
Listen, you have tattoos in general, right?
You have been ran through too and the way you handle girls, the way you handle girls on the back is like a pimp and I don't appreciate that.
Hey, listen!
Yeah, you touch girls and you listen.
No, no, that's not the way you run.
That's not the way you run a gentleman studio, you know what I'm saying?
You want to be like a pimp because that's your mentality.
That's the mentality you grew up...
No, I didn't listen.
I used to be a teacher.
I ignored you.
I wasn't looking at you.
No, why?
Because you was mad because her friend left.
Because she's like, you know what?
She didn't like the vibe.
She didn't like the vibe.
Fuck her because she didn't DM me.
She didn't DM me.
Look at you.
Look at you.
You're not a gentleman.
Hey, listen.
I'll give a fuck.
I can't.
She didn't DM me.
There's no point of arguing with a fool.
Well, your friend's a fool because I gave her simple instructions.
Why are you talking about my friend?
She's not even here.
Alright, so because she's a fool.
That's why she left.
Ladies, you all DM me, right?
Why are you targeting my friend?
Listen, listen, listen.
Did you like the way he was talking to me?
I don't want to target your friend, but you brought her up.
What?
Nobody brought her up.
You brought your friend, alright?
Alright, listen.
Yeah, I brought her, but I'm talking about you, how you handle girls.
It's like you can do that in a loving way.
Once again.
That's how I know that.
Here is the loving way, okay?
He's saying that, oh, I'm doing it more in a more powerful way on this platform, but this is this Platform is not.
There's no God in here.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't feel no God.
All I feel is anxiety, depression, ego.
That's all I feel here.
And that's why I was asking him, why did you not follow that path?
Because it's such a loving path.
You want to heal people.
You want to give love to people in different ways.
I think some of the anxiety comes from your inability to structure your points and make actual...
No, it's the way, like, okay, I was talking to him and the way he handles girls is like pimp weight, you know, like high school girls.
Like, that's just not the way to go if you think you have Jesus in you.
Jesus wouldn't let you do that.
Jesus is not like that.
This isn't church.
No, no, it's not church.
But I'm saying, I was asking him, like, why did he not pursue that?
That's because many are called, but a few are chosen.
So it's a narrow path.
Look, I get it.
You found Jesus and you want to spread the gospel.
But the thing is, is that we've been having...
You know, factual conversation on dating and dynamics and you didn't like one of the statements that were made.
You couldn't necessarily back up your points.
No, I don't.
It's not about me.
It's not about me.
You're being fairly disrespectful with, you know, over-talking and interrupting and everything else like that and random interactions.
Fuck it.
Here's a Instagram, man.
What?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, thank you for giving me a shout-out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
All right.
And there's also a picture saying that I was...
That I got baptized.
No, no, go ahead.
Wait, wait, wait.
So this is the Christian...
Is it Sammy Adams?
Verse what?
Because I'm sure...
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
Wait, wait, wait.
What is this?
Are you walking to the beach to get baptized right now?
Go to the picture where it says...
So let me get it straight.
Go to the picture.
There we go.
I'm using the beach.
I'm getting it straight.
You're posting stuff like this.
I'm talking about me?
Yo, let's continue.
Go to the picture where it said I got baptized.
Those are old pictures.
You appreciate the people.
Hold on, hold on.
Let him go to that.
That's not it.
I'll get you, nigga.
A devil's outfit?
You're talking about me?
Bro.
I don't know why you triggered.
Go to the picture.
You'll find it.
You'll find it.
You'll find the picture.
I would think before you come on the show and you're going to preach this Jesus stuff, you would archive those pictures, man.
No, I'm not.
Why would I? That's my testimony.
There's a picture where it's saying I got baptized.
Why didn't you go to that?
That's not highlighted at all.
It is highlighted.
You see it, bro.
It's like there's the old you and there's the new you.
Here's the thing, right?
You can't bash me all you want, but like, look.
This is white.
You're not going to shame me, bro.
People clown Christians because you come on here, holier than thou, and then this is what they say.
I didn't say I'm holy.
I said I'm getting right.
No, no, no.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the problem, though.
But I'm a child of God.
You can preach the word of having to say it by actions as well.
Right, but actions, go ahead.
Don't click on that picture where it said I got baptized.
That shows the opposite.
Wait, wait.
It's two months ago.
It's two months ago.
No pictures are old.
I mean, I don't even make sense.
Wait, wait.
You're going to have to hold L on this one, man.
Yeah, hold L. When your friend first walked in, right?
I asked the girls, okay, so girls, who DM'd me to the podcast?
So raise your hand, ladies, if you DM'd me, right?
So everyone DM'd me in the podcast, right?
So your friend did not DM'd me.
So I said, okay, you know what?
Since you didn't DM'd me, you know, usually I have to know how much seats I have on a podcast, on a panel.
Because why?
Because I don't want the girls to feel uncomfortable.
Did I tell you that?
Yes or no?
Yeah.
So I was very respectful.
I said, you know what?
Who's sending me DMs?
And I checked in front of you ladies.
I was very cordial, correct?
Correct.
So then I said, all right, cool.
Then here it is.
You know what?
Then I explained to your friend, you know what?
I will bring you on to the podcast, but normally I don't do this, but boom, boom, boom.
Even though she broke the rules.
Yes.
And then your friend, right?
Soon as I said, all right, ladies, come on to the platform and to the panel, to the set.
And now I will explain the rules.
And then you said, oh, your friend said she had how much minutes she had to leave?
It's about how you treated me.
It's not about my friend.
Your friend says you have 30 minutes.
Can I finish?
I was listening.
I wasn't looking at you and then you touched me.
You were like, hey, focus.
I'm your child or something.
I'm listening.
I'm just not looking at you because I don't want to look at you.
Ladies, did I say that?
It's about you, how you treated me.
It's not about my friend.
Why are you bringing up my friend?
You know what I'm saying?
Wait, wait, wait.
It's about you, my love.
It's about you and how you are as a gentleman.
That's all.
That's what I'm saying.
You got to understand that there's rules.
There's ways that we move to do the part.
It's the way you do it.
It's the way you do it.
What do you mean the way we do it?
It's the way you do it.
You touch me.
Hey, focus.
Hey, focus.
Like, I'm not your child.
You know what I'm saying?
Wait, wait, wait.
Like, that shouldn't be...
That's not a...
I touch you when you're sitting away over there, right?
No, like, you're touching my shoulder.
Like, focus.
Like, I'm a child or something.
No, because you...
First of all, I didn't touch you.
I snapped at you and said, focus, because you weren't paying attention.
Okay, you snapped at me.
Why would you snap at me?
What the fuck?
You just accused him of touching you.
No, he did.
He did, but I let him have it, though.
You snapped at me.
He was right here.
Why would you snap at me?
He was right here, bro.
Right here.
Right over here.
I saw video out on Locos.
He was right here the whole time.
He touched me.
First of all, he touched my shoulder.
Yo, yo, yo.
You're Christian?
Get out of here, man.
Where's your cameras?
Go ahead.
Run it back.
Run it back.
It's on locals.
Go ahead.
Show it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Sorry.
And other girls saw it too.
I didn't like the way he was talking to me.
Hey, focus.
I'm focusing.
I'm listening.
Let me make this history clear.
Let me be very candid about this.
The reason why we're successful is because we have a system.
We have a system in place when girls come in, giving the directions, etc.
Can you please stop interrupting?
This is what I'm talking about when I say you have a bad habit of interrupting.
You've done this several times now.
And I've warned you twice, right?
So, there you go again.
So, anyway...
We have a system in place to ensure success.
We gotta make sure that the girls pay attention with the rules, because if you don't, then you're gonna look foolish on air when we're on.
So, would you run a tight ship?
I mean, if you don't like it that way, that's fine, but that's how we do things, and that's how we've been able to rise through the ranks to get where we're at now.
So, you're on someone else's platform that you didn't build, that doesn't belong to you, you gotta show respect.
So if I decide to say, shut the fuck up, I can do so, because it's our show, because...
Again, look, I don't care what you think.
I'm telling you that you're a guest on the platform.
But you invited me, though.
Yeah, as a guest.
Keyword, as a guest.
We don't need you here.
I understand.
I don't need you.
This is what I'm talking about with the talking back.
See how I'm just telling you what it is and then you feel the constant need to talk back and forth?
What is your problem?
I don't have a problem with the way he was presenting things.
It's like, I'm not your child.
If you're not paying attention, then you're not paying attention.
Who said I wasn't?
I was listening, but I wasn't looking at him.
He's treating you like a child because you were behaving like a child without paying attention.
I wasn't looking at him because I didn't want to.
You're behaving like a child right now because I'm speaking and you're still speaking.
You don't wait until I'm finished to respond.
Okay?
So, at the end of the day, you've been very disrespectful.
Don't follow orders.
It is what it is, but we have a system.
That's how it is.
That's how we got to where we are is by having a system.
The other girls seem to comply with it just fine.
You're the only person who has a problem.
See, you know what's the biggest problem here?
As a Christian, you make us look bad because now you're being disrespectful, argumentative, and not feminine.
You look masculine as fuck.
And I was like, oh, that's the question?
And you've been arguing in bad faith the entire show, which is fine.
I mean, it's entertainment, but it's like, you haven't really been able to stand on any of the arguments that you made.
You've just been arguing and arguing, and it's like, okay, whatever.
I think the bigger question, hold on, I think the bigger question is, why do you have pictures like that on your Instagram if you are preaching the Word of God?
Because in the Bible, it does show, like, do not show your parts to anyone else but your husband.
And there's a picture where it says, I got baptized, being reborn.
No, no, no, on the right, on the right.
But if you want to attract a Christian man, then I'm not sure...
Go to the picture where it says I got baptized.
No, lower, lower, right to the right.
But do you want to attract a Christian man?
Yeah, those are from before.
Okay.
I mean, right there.
You passed it right there.
No, right there.
Yep.
It says it.
That's when I got baptized.
When you're your old person, you're someone else.
When you feel, when you get touched by the Holy Ghost, when you, when Jesus comes to you, you got to change your whole life.
What?
No, I don't have no.
All right.
We're going to move on.
You had something that you wanted to say?
There you go, the tattoos.
Okay.
You think it's like a joke, but it's like I'm not even trying to disrespect, but I just had a question for you.
Why did you not choose?
She said I wasn't paying attention to you, so that's why.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, bro.
Go ahead, you got something?
Oh, my God.
I just wanted to speak in her defense really quickly.
Sure.
I mean...
I don't know if you can do it, but go ahead.
I mean, at the end of the day, we're all sinners, and sometimes your past doesn't always define you.
It can, but sometimes it can't.
And she said she recently found God.
You know, she can preach what she wants, and she can post what she wants.
It may contradict a little, and I can admit that, but if she wants to preach it, and her message is great.
You have a very lovely message.
That's just about it.
You can't come at her...
There's not an issue with what she wants to do.
It's a hypocrisy.
Sorry, Goff.
That was terrible.
It's the hypocrisy, which is the point of contention here is the hypocrisy.
I think if you have a goal to move forward in your life and if you want to attract a certain type of man, that as a Christian man...
I didn't come here to attract a certain type of man.
So, baptize me.
I get back to my OnlyFans now, right?
No, I can't.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying.
No, no, no.
I didn't come here to find a man.
I came here because I got invited and I wanted to be talking in a loving way, but that's not you guys' platform.
You guys want to just bash.
And just make jokes.
You've just not made concise, articulate arguments to back up what you've said.
That's your opinion.
No, I mean, we have almost 30,000 people watching.
I think they would all agree that you made yourself look foolish to a degree.
You did.
I don't feel foolish.
But it is also your opinion that the gentleman in the back was disrespectful and I actually didn't find him to be disrespectful at all.
That's you, but the way he was acting to me, I didn't like it.
But that's what you're saying.
But that's your opinion.
That's exactly what my mind is saying.
If I'm listening and I just don't want to look at you because I don't want to look at you, that doesn't mean you should touch me and say, hey, or touch me or whatever he want to call it and say, hey, focus.
Snap at you.
That's a big difference.
No, he touched me, but he can have it.
Go ahead and you can tell the snap.
Okay, he snapped at me, but you still don't have the right to say that, oh, focus when I'm listening.
Hold on.
Do you go into church and spit on the cross?
Hold on, hold on.
There are certain things that you do in a place showing respect as a guest.
So coming in here and paying attention when they're giving directions and being respectful is showing respect to our host.
You wouldn't go into church and be disrespectful to the pastor because you're showing respect for them.
It's a different kind of environment than this.
It's not like this.
You are proving...
That you are not walking by faith, but by your own emotions.
Let's move forward, man.
That's your opinion.
You just showed it multiple times.
That's your opinion still.
Girls, besides her, who else felt I've been disrespectful?
I was going to go ahead and say that I didn't feel any...
I feel like he was trying to be professional.
Go straight to the point.
Talking about some girls calling me daddy that's professional.
I mean, he should turn on me.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
It's just like she should make Joseph her only face.
You put a link in your bio, bro.
They're damn sure sticking it with that little thing going on.
No, I don't.
I don't think he was disrespectful.
And I'm speaking up for Auntie, so let's move on.
To me, it wasn't.
That's my opinion.
To you, that's your opinion.
So I'm just stating my opinion.
There's that.
I know, but we just had an argument for two hours that said that opinions aren't valid, so we can't, like, come back and rebuke.
If you said focus and I'm listening, what's wrong with that?
I'm saying I'm listening, I'm just not looking into his eyes.
What is wrong with that?
Because you weren't listening.
Because I wasn't listening because I wasn't looking into your eyes, bro.
Because it's also his opinion that you were being disrespectful in his house.
It's his opinion, but he doesn't have to touch me and snap at me.
Right?
He doesn't have to do that.
But again, it's your opinion.
Does a pastor do that?
Snap at you if you're not listening to church?
Nobody touched you, man.
I don't know why you keep saying that.
Oh, bro.
Okay.
Whatever you want to have.
Nobody touched you.
But just snap at me.
I'm like, I'm listening.
She was recording the whole thing and she's saying in the back, no one touched you.
I don't know why you keep saying that.
It's on Locals.
Go on Locals, guys.
Go check it out.
We got to take accountability for things that we are wrong about.
And you're not going to bash my opinion that he did snap at me while I'm listening.
I'm not wrong.
Who said I'm wrong for not looking at his eyes?
I'm not looking at his eyes.
I can leave.
I just had a question about him.
Why didn't he want to become a pastor?
That's it.
I answered it.
Yeah, yeah, no, no.
She is right.
If I touch you, why are you still here?
I wanted to come here and see what this is about.
And I see what it's about.
You guys wanted like a fucking doghouse here.
Oh, doghouse?
Y'all guys do.
You guys do.
And the females, that's not like, you guys don't understand this.
Like, you guys are obviously don't understand like what is going on behind the scenes.
I have one question for you.
But it's cool, but I'm going to leave, you know?
And you guys can make jokes with me because that's what y'all do.
Y'all make jokes with females.
masculine.
There you go.
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Hey, hey, hey.
Goodbye. Na-na-na-na. Na-na-na-na. Hey, hey, hey. Goodbye. Na-na-na-na. Na-na-na-na. Hey, hey, hey.
goodbye alright can we separate I'll see you and her please you say dumb shit people are gonna like make fun of you You also have to understand that this entire podcast watches it because they're in your favor.
They're not watching it.
If you have good points, they will say, you know what?
She's right.
If you have bad points, they're going to say you're dumb.
Also, you guys live, eat, breathe this shit.
I don't even think about it.
So to try to argue with somebody who knows exactly, not about what they're going to say, but just like, you're smart on all of these topics.
For me to try to argue, though, I know I'm gonna fucking lose.
And that's hard for me to say.
I feel like I'm very stubborn, but I'm gonna lose.
But she did, right?
No, but I'm not standing up for her.
I'm literally doing the opposite.
I'm saying why I don't.
I agree.
The audience was truly in our favor between mine and Fresh.
I like the video because we have barely any likes on our video on YouTube.
So we have a bunch of haters that just watch our videos and just want to hate.
The point is that this podcast perfectly shows a lot of the times that...
Women can make arguments that don't make sense and think that they have something to stand on.
And she didn't make any points.
And it's just like, oh, my feelings.
My feelings are blah, blah, blah.
Whatever.
It is what it is.
Who are we at here?
Okay.
Does anybody else have anything that they want to say?
What are the last thoughts on the show after this?
Cool.
Okay.
Ladies, what is your opinion on women who pursue a higher level education and a better paying job while in a relationship with a man who makes upward of 70 to 100k a year, i.e.
the woman has a high school diploma and the man works in a trade?
I applaud them.
No, you read that really fast.
I need to do it in my own case.
Basically, a woman that don't give a fuck.
So the question is to clarify, how do women feel about basically dating a man or being with a man who doesn't earn as much money as they do?
No.
It's not happening.
I think if that's the question, I think something that plays a big part is If you really, truly love the person, you know?
If you're really down for them, if you're right or die, you know?
Because money moves everything.
And that's a fact that we have to upset.
Either you're a woman, you are a man.
You need to have money in your pocket.
Some of us don't need as much money to move around, but we need at the end of the day.
Yeah, but men don't care about women having money.
That's true, but still, we as women, we do care about money for our own and for other people's money, you know?
I don't know how to explain that.
Women care about resources and income.
Men don't.
Okay, I'll give that to you.
But to answer the question, you have to really love the person because you are low-key stopping yourself, you know?
You're not like...
Giving yourself the chance to go forward.
You know what I mean?
It might slow you down to be with a person that is not in some capacity.
Are you willing to wait for them to get to that capacity?
Are you willing to help them up?
That's a lot of things that you have to take into consideration.
If you want to do it, go for it.
So my experience with that, I, once upon a time, a long time ago, I was a lot younger, dated a man who earned less money than I did.
And I realized why it doesn't work.
You know, in a perfect world, we want to think, oh, yeah, we're going to wait for him.
And actuality doesn't work that way.
I remember he, in a way, he almost felt like he was inferior to me.
And so it became kind of like a thing where he resented me for it.
So I realized that In the world that we live in, in my opinion.
Did he resent you or did you resent him?
No, I was okay with it.
I didn't mind.
I would pay for things, but it bothered him.
Who broke up with who?
You broke up with him or he broke up with you?
Yeah, but I broke up with him for other reasons.
Not for the money situation.
Did he cheat on you?
He was just a liar.
But it wasn't about money.
It definitely wasn't about money.
It wasn't.
He would lie to me about things and I was like, look, you can be honest about where you're at in life and we can figure it out, but he wouldn't.
He would just put on this facade and try to make it seem like he had it when he did and it became a problem and then he resented me for being successful and Whatever.
And so that's when I realized, like, for sure, for me at least, right, I can't date a man who makes less money than I do because it becomes a thing.
Did you nag him?
Were you, like, mean and stuff?
No, I was very understanding, but he just lied, rather than being honest about where he was at.
Maybe the guy wanted to prove a point of him being masculine, him being a leader, but he wasn't, so I'm not interested into that.
Typically when girls make more money than their guy or they're in a leadership role, they tend to be very difficult to be around.
You think there's a difference between high value and high earning?
Because the thing is, men Men naturally are providers.
They like to feel that they're bringing something to the table.
It's like you said, men see a problem, they solve it.
That's it.
Oh, my woman is in trouble.
She has something I need to resolve.
That's it.
They don't see forward that.
You know?
So, for them not being able to give you what we want these days, money, like, physical stuff, material stuff, it's gonna lower the self-esteem even if they don't want to because it's like, damn, the thing that I'm made for to provide, I'm not doing it.
You know?
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I definitely, in discussions of me, I go along with the very first thing that I was asked.
If I value, like, all of that said in a man, I mean, obviously it would be important to me that he makes way more than me.
Or maybe even that I don't really do much at all.
But how realistic is that with, you know, the very, very first thing I said, my job, all of that?
I mean, shit.
That goes back to what I was saying with her.
Most women want a provider.
I don't know why girls get so mad like, oh, you're speaking in generalities, but the reality is that more women are similar than they try to say.
Alright, this might be offensive, but I'm going to say it.
It's not a crazy world where women think that they're special.
The reality is you guys aren't fucking special.
You're attracted to the same traits that a lot of other women are attracted to.
The problem is that most men don't have a lot of these traits in one guy.
So you have to consolidate on a guy that has some of them that you're willing to accept.
That's what it comes down to.
But if a girl had her own pick, she could build her dream man, he's going to look a lot more similar than a lot of you guys care to admit.
He's going to be tall, charming, charismatic, nice straight teeth, in shape, to a degree, with visible abdominals.
He's going to have certain things in place.
Be a breadwinner, dominant, assertive.
There's a reason why Fifty Shade the Grey is the number one best-selling book.
Women are attracted to very similar things than men.
It's just that you have the capability to attract this man.
You might not.
You might get him for a night.
Another girl might be able to get him as a boyfriend.
Another girl might be able to get him as a husband.
But the reality is that women look for very similar traits in men.
I would argue that what women are attracted to with men is far more linear than you guys want to admit.
You say some bullshit about personality, blah, blah, blah.
But the reality is the personality doesn't matter if he's not attractive enough in the first place.
That goes both ways, though.
There's a few studies on how proportional females' faces are and how much more men are attractive.
Men are far more forgiving when it comes to female beauty than women are when it comes to male competence, attractiveness, height, and all these other things.
In other words, women are way more selective and picky about what they want.
Well, actually, that's not true.
The OKCupid study that you referenced before in regards to what men are attracted to.
Men will swipe more.
Okay, tender study.
Men will swipe more, but they only message the most attractive females.
This whole Pareto principle, they only message the most attractive females.
So they might swipe more, but to the point that you made earlier, as far as women are more picky on these dating apps.
That's what you're saying.
Women are far more pickier than men are.
But men still, you cannot be...
I mean, when it comes down to it, I agree with you.
I agree with you when it comes down to it.
It doesn't even come close to the degree of how men are selected versus how women are selected.
And the only reason for that, and you know my friend Rolo, we all know Rolo, we all know evolutionary psychology, we all know Dr.
Buss, we're on the same space.
The only reason why is because of babies, is because of symmetry, is because of we look at you and we see different things because we have to carry your child.
And that is the only reason.
And if you were in the same exact position, if you had to carry a baby, there are men.
I'm simply arguing that women are far more selected than men.
That's it.
I'm not saying that it's wrong.
I'm not saying that it's right.
I'm just saying that they are, and I accept that, and men have to adapt to how women may select.
Okay, great.
Women don't care, because girls will sit there and say, oh, it's all about personality.
No, it's not.
The guy has to meet certain requirements before personality is even given a fuck about.
But that is going to make us more, I mean, that is why women historically throughout history have been more special or have a perception.
I feel like it would be easier to discuss if we broke up, like, the physicality.
She's talking.
I think that throughout history, women have always been more picky.
They always are more picky because of carrying babies.
Sorry, I lost my train of thought because you interrupted me.
What were we talking about?
I simply said that women are far more slept than men are.
Okay, and the point is...
Yeah, I don't know why you even jumped in, to be honest with you.
That's what I was saying.
We all agreed.
There was another point that you were trying to make, and that's...
That women aren't special?
And they're attracted to very similar traits amongst each other?
Yes.
So if it were reverse and men were more selective, that is the reason why we're more special.
That's the reason of the perception of why we think we are special.
Because we are having to carry your babies.
That's just how it is.
But they're not special.
And what I mean by women are not special is that Girls will sit there and try to say, I'm different.
I'm attracted to different things.
What I'm saying is that what women are inherently attracted to isn't that different from woman to woman.
Doesn't that apply to men as well?
What I'm saying is that men have more variance in what they're attracted to.
Women typically don't.
Because we have to carry a baby.
I'm not arguing for the why.
I'm just telling you what is.
I've noticed that you guys, the other girl that got kicked out, you guys keep making arguments for the why.
I'm not talking about the why or if it's right or wrong.
I'm telling you what is.
Women are far more selective than men.
And what I'm saying is that women aren't as special as they think they are because they're attracted to very similar traits in men.
But we have to be more selective because if we aren't, if we aren't, again, MHC genes, the t-shirt study, if we choose wrong, it could lead to genetic variants.
It could lead to downs.
No one's arguing the why.
I'm just telling you that what is.
Okay.
I agree.
That's it.
So I'm just saying that women are more selective and it's even heightened more now with social media and dating apps.
So it's made it harder for the average man to be able to mate.
The average guy is virtually invisible to the average woman because the average woman now has access to exceptional men thanks to social media and the internet.
That is why I said chivalry and romance is basically dead because women killed it because they have a higher expectation of the male.
Bam.
Solid.
Higher expectation of the male.
Yes.
Women have higher expectations in men that they think that they deserve and are entitled to thanks to the internet and social media.
More options creates more entitlement?
Absolutely.
If you take a woman that's average looking and she has a thousand DMs in her inbox, she has men talking to her at school, she has other guys trying to court her for dates, she has the dating app where men are hitting her up, etc.
That is going to absolutely change her perception of her own self-worth.
And therefore, I got all these guys hitting me up, I'm going to pick the best one.
Why should I settle?
That's why so many modern day women nowadays say, I deserve the best, I'm a princess, I'm special, blah, blah, blah, because the internet reinforces this belief system and her friends.
We have an entire economy that tells women that love your curves, you're the best, you deserve more.
If you look at marketing to women, it's all based in lies.
When you lie, women buy.
Women can't handle the truth.
I mean, as a matter of fact, when I mentioned this stuff earlier on the show, a lot of you had issues with what I said.
Because women typically don't like to hear the cold hard truth.
That women are very cutthroat when it comes to who they pick and who they select in men.
Because women want to be looked at as the virtual ones.
I'm just acknowledging reality that women are far more cutthroat and selective with picking the opposite gender than men are.
I think it's always been that way.
It has always been.
It always has.
But I'm saying now, with Instagram and social media, it's been heightened.
Okay.
That was all I was trying to say earlier.
But everyone else is in their feelings getting mad, saying like, that's fine.
I don't agree, blah, blah, blah.
I'm just saying Instagram and social media has made women more selective.
So the average guy that would have had a chance in 1970 doesn't have a chance in 2023.
He's invisible now.
Well, he also had to put a ring on it first before he got laid.
Yeah, but he didn't compete with a Chad in California for the same girl.
And also, it could be an illusion as well.
Go ahead, yes, I'm...
I have a question, like, more of a personal question for, like, all the men, or if you believe that women in general are not special.
I mean, the personal question is, would you not marry somebody you consider a special person?
I mean, if you believe all women aren't special...
I don't think men are special either, by the way.
Yeah, facts.
But isn't that just the formula for a miserable living situation?
I think it's a recipe for a realistic living situation.
So, not believing your partner is special, important, unique, wouldn't that just be a mediocre marriage?
No, because when you pedestalize women, they typically tend to treat you like shit.
You can't pedestalize women.
You can't generalize every woman.
Really?
You don't want to marry somebody you consider special, unique, like, you don't want that?
Who has to like the other party more for a relationship to work?
That's not the point.
It takes too long ago.
No, no, no.
It's going somewhere with this.
Who needs to like the other person more for the relationship to work?
Does the man need to like the girl more?
Or does the woman need to like the guy more for it to be a happy relationship?
In a genuine, genuine marriage relationship, it's gotta go both ways.
It takes two to tango.
In every single relationship, there's always someone who needs the other less.
That's any relationship, whether it's a relationship with your job, friends, etc.
There's always a value exchange.
But one party, typically less, needs the other party less.
I'm asking you, in this situation, relationship to be the best.
Does the woman need to like the guy more, or the other way around?
I really, really just believe it.
It's 50-50.
You gotta love your partner as much as they love you.
See, this is where negativity comes in.
There's no such thing as 50-50 in anything.
That's a fallacy, especially within the confinements of a relationship.
One party has to be valued more than the other.
That's just how it is.
What do you mean, not true?
I personally believe not true because I believe compromise is a thing.
Is the woman giving more or the man giving more?
Someone has to compromise more.
It's not True.
I believe all things can be talked out.
All things can be discussed about.
If you talk shit out with your partner, then everything can be resolved.
There's no such thing as the man giving more or the woman giving more.
And this day and age specifically, come on now.
It's 2023.
I'm a favor.
Like, please.
But where, but hold on, hold on.
We're talking, hold on.
You just, we're talking about stats and figures and I have all this stuff to back this up.
And you say something like that, Myron, but you're, that is pure opinion.
There are no statistical significant data to prove that a relationship does better when a woman loves a man more or vice versa.
So you, you have to acknowledge, and I'm, and I'm calling you on your accountability at this point.
You have to acknowledge that that was an opinion at best.
No, it's not.
And who's delusional now?
If you give me a second, I can explain why.
Women don't seek their equal.
They seek a superior in every single metric.
Whether it's height, income, competence, accomplishments, competence.
Women don't look for a man who's equal.
That's an opinion.
That's an opinion.
Let's talk about the stats.
Give the stats.
I don't have the rational male sitting in front of me.
The traits I just described, this is what women look for hardwired in their partner.
They're looking for protection, provisioning, competence.
They look for what I call...
But there's only 14% of 1% men.
So that means if that were true, then only 14% of men would be married and would be in long-term serious relationships if that fact was absolutely true.
Is that correct?
Can I finish my point?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
What women want and what they actually get with are two different things.
Majority of women want what I just described, a man who's better than them in almost every metric.
Now, can every girl get this?
No, because obviously we have a supply and demand issue.
But that does not change the fact that women are hardwired to want these things, and they want a mate who's better than them in every regard.
So...
If I come into the relationship and I'm better than you in every regard and I treat you as an equal, that doesn't make sense, does it?
Because what I'm basically doing is I'm saying, oh, well, I've worked my ass off to get to a certain point in life and I'm going to treat you as an equal.
Women don't like that.
They want a leader.
By default of me being a leader, that means that we are not equal.
Depends on the type of woman.
But hold on.
I'm going to be very honest with you.
You've made a lot of stupid comments.
I'm speaking in 2023.
A lot of women made a lot of...
You made a lot of opinions.
You haven't made facts.
You made opinions.
What I just stated is a fact that women are attracted to these tricks.
How old are you and how old am I? You're old as fuck, right?
That's my point.
But my thing is, my day and age...
No one cares about, oh, the man has to have more than the woman.
It's all about the type of woman that you are and what you're seeking at this day and age, honestly.
With all due respect, you're stupid.
You're saying a woman wants this.
You're saying a fact.
Stop.
It is a fact.
This is what women look for in men.
In general, women look for these characteristics in men.
That is a fact.
That is not my opinion.
This is biologically hardwired in us.
That's false.
Considering a lot of women would agree with me.
You're stupid.
I'm not stupid.
I'm not stating my opinion.
I haven't insulted you, so don't insult me.
I haven't insulted you, so don't insult me.
It's the truth.
If I'm stating a fact, and then you go ahead and turn around and try to say an opinion.
You're not stating a fact.
You're stating an opinion.
Because there's a lot of women that would disagree with what you're saying.
Hold on.
He is stating a fact from an evolutionary perspective.
But also men want...
Right?
Breasts, big butt, signals of fertility.
Men also have preferences as well.
It doesn't mean that they can necessarily get them.
So let's go back to the point.
What point were you making?
The things that make a man attractive are difficult to attain.
They're not born with it.
I would say similar to women because why are women getting fake boobs if men aren't attracted to that?
I would say that it's also very hard for women as well.
Myron, I'm just...
We're just rallying.
Keep going.
No, because I'm telling you that women don't look for an equal when it comes to finding a partner.
They want a superior.
So therefore, the man must behave like a superior.
This is what women are attracted to.
This is why I'm saying the girl must like the guy more for her to truly feel fulfilled because thanks to hypergamy, women need to know that they have the best man.
A woman only knows that she has the best man when she's not looking at others because she's chasing the man's validation.
That's what women are satisfied when they know that they can get the best that they can get.
What's the most honest indicator that she has the best that she can get when she's chasing that man's validation?
Well, then why are 80% of women filing for divorce, then, if they're chasing the best that they can get?
Because most men cannot attain and have all those traits in one guy, which is why so many girls might have a guy that fulfills the financial need, then have another guy that's tall and attractive that fulfills their sexual need.
Very few men have all these metrics that women look for.
However, women still want them, but it's difficult to find them in one guy.
So if anything, the high divorce rate proves my point that women are looking for a superior.
They're not looking for an equal.
But men are cheating more than women.
Not true.
Cheating between the genders is damn near equal at this point.
It's about 5-10% different.
It's not that equal.
So who has the dual mating strategy then if men are still cheating and still seeking long-term relationships?
There's dual mating strategy on either side.
What are you talking about?
With men and women?
Yes.
100%.
If you're saying that we want our beta and the alpha, we go for these different types of characteristics, you want a couple of women in your life, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, four or five.
But women, if given the option, would prefer one man that has all the characteristics I named.
Here's the difference.
If a man has the best girlfriend ever, he's still going to fuck other bitches.
But if a woman has the best man ever, she definitely ain't going to want to fuck other guys.
Again, these are all opinions.
How are you turning these into facts?
Because women like to consolidate on the highest value men that they can get.
Most girls, if they have their dream men, aren't going to run around and fuck other guys.
They're not going to do that.
But men, if they got their dream girl, they're still going to fuck other bitches because men like abundance.
They like quantity.
Women want quality.
The problem is that most guys don't have the quality in one guy, so women have to outsource it in different individuals.
So, people that leave, like, supermodels that leave their husbands aren't interested in men because they're with the most high-value men and they're leaving anyway?
Like, that doesn't...
Make any sense.
That doesn't make any sense.
Because the man...
Let's use Tom Brady, for example, right?
Bad example, and you know why.
That's a perfect example, because that's a guy that's a winner in every metric, but his girl still left him, and there's a plausible explanation for that.
The reason why is because, thanks to the internet, once again, like I said before, when you lie women by, Giselle thinks that she could do better.
Women typically don't leave a guy unless they think that they can do better, right?
She left him.
What'd she do?
Go fuck some TIE fighter that might have not had the same status and the money, but he was attractive.
But the thing is that you don't encapsulate all the other things that she could have been unhappy with.
Again, could have been his career.
He could have never been home.
He could have been gone all the time.
She fell out of love with him because they didn't have an emotional connection.
There's so many other things that women need versus just resources to stay with a man.
And I understand your points, and I respect them, and I think you make amazingly valid points.
But there are other...
There are other layers to it.
It is not just so black and white.
There are other things that men have to bring to the table, even if they are highly successful.
We will trade the highest successful, most amazing man.
If he is not emotionally available to us, if he is gone all the time, if he is on vacation and on his phone, what does that equal?
Does that make you feel special, ladies?
Does that make you feel loved?
Does that make you feel cherished?
That's the thing.
All I'm saying is that Men have to also understand that women want other things than just their dollar.
And a woman will respect you and a woman will honor you and stay with you if you are also meeting her emotional needs as well.
Do you know how we got here?
We got here because all I simply said was that men, right, the girl needs to like the guy more for the relationship to be in the best situation.
That's all I'm saying.
You're making an argument for something.
You're a very effective arguer.
You're going on a random tangent about women need all this, blah, blah, blah.
I'm simply saying that, cool, women need all that, right?
But she needs to feel like she has the best guy for her to stay attracted to that guy.
And the best guy could be emotionally available.
You are equating resources, finances, you are equating certain things from a materialistic perspective as the best No, no, no.
I said there's a bunch of other things too.
Confident, ambitious, etc.
All these things go into the person's character.
But what I'm saying is that the girl...
Remember, we started this.
Ladies, you guys lose focus so much.
I'm just simply saying, for the relationship to be the best, the girl's got to be chasing the man's validation.
And that puts him inevitably in the driver's seat in the leadership position.
Because when it's the other way around, the man is pedestalizing the woman.
She has no choice but to look down and women don't respect men that they feel they're better than.
Hypergamy.
Simply, that's what it is.
You have some?
Do you have your thoughts, Gavin?
Yes.
Go ahead.
So, what caught my attention, I mean, you mentioned how you could have the best girlfriend in the world and still feel the need to fuck other women.
Why?
Because doesn't that imply desperation, lack of self-control?
That's kind of a bad look on you.
Why can't you do it?
And why can't we?
Who are you to say?
Yeah.
What are you to say and define, you can do it, but we cannot, shit on other people for what you do, practice what you preach, right?
I just want to know.
Alright, let me ask you a question.
Let's go into a scenario, alright?
I'm gonna get the whole table involved in this.
Here's a scenario.
Let's say, we grew up next to each other, right?
I come from a rich family, alright?
And at 18 years old, I get $3 million given to me.
You know, inheritance.
You on the other hand, grew up poor.
You had to earn your money.
10 years passes by, right?
And we're at a high school reunion.
Both 28 years old now.
You saw me limousine riding, jet flying, Ric Flair type shit, going crazy in Vegas, spending my $3 million, right?
Going wild, fucking bitches doing cocaine, having a great life.
You on the other hand, you busted your ass, went to school, scaled up a couple businesses, got your degree.
Now you're a multimillionaire.
You're now worth $3 million.
However, I kind of gambled my money away and had some fun.
Whatever.
We go to this meeting.
We go to the high school reunion.
I tell you, hey!
You should invest in this random new cryptocurrency.
Would you take my financial advice seriously?
Start with you.
No.
What about you?
No.
What about you?
Probably.
Would you take my advice?
Probably.
Why?
Damn.
What I know of you.
I had faith in you, but...
So why would you take my advice?
You have more experience in...
But I lost the money.
Sorry?
I was a trust fund baby and I lost the money.
You lost the money?
Yes.
Were you paying attention to the scenario?
Stupid!
Incredible.
What about you?
Would you listen to me?
Would I listen to you in that scenario?
No, I feel like I would take it more from me.
Another self-made individual?
Yeah, someone who is self-made.
What about you?
You're an entrepreneur.
Would you take my financial security?
Definitely not.
Alright, what about you?
I mean, I would listen to it and I would give thought into it if it makes sense to me.
You wouldn't make the same mistakes I made?
I wouldn't.
I would be like, okay, where he fucked up so I can fix, you know?
Alright, what about you?
The negative attributes, I would take into account and apply it to myself, whereas the positive attributes as well.
Because the thing is, you may have been a trust fund baby and got your money that way, but the thing is, it's not to get money, it's to maintain it.
So I would take my positive attributes and get the positive attributes that you got from your trust fund money stuff and apply it to my current circumstance.
But there is no positive attribute because I didn't earn the money.
My point is, the thing is, you were able to maintain it for a certain time period, right?
I spent it away.
My point is you were able to maintain it for a certain time period, right?
They gave it to you for a reason, right?
They wouldn't have given it to a fucking hobo in the street, right?
They gave it to me because I was born into wealth.
Where you were a hobo in the street?
No, I was born into wealth.
No, my point.
So there were certain positive attributes to you that decided to give you the money because if you're a fucking dumbass, they wouldn't have given you the money.
That's my point.
You did not catch the part that I grew up in a rich family and they gave me the money.
If you were raised in a certain type of family and raised in a certain type of environment, that means that you would have some sort of type of knowledge and commentary.
There's actually a lot of empty But you know what?
Unfortunately, common sense isn't common, love.
I see why you're single.
Goddamn, you're a fucking annoying ass fuck.
I choose to be common.
I choose to be single.
No, you are annoying ass fuck.
So, that's great, hun.
That's great that you have your own personal opinion.
I'm a trust fund baby.
I got the money for nothing more than the fact that I have the same last name.
Okay, so instead of insulting you, I said I decided to get the positive attributes to you, so you started to rebuttal me by negative.
Lizzo, Lizzo, chill.
I know you're not calling me Lizzo, so you're trying to call me a woman that looks nothing like me?
That's what you're trying to do when you're fucking fatter than me?
That's crazy.
That's fucking crazy.
That's fucking crazy.
You're calling me a name?
You're calling me a woman that looks nothing like me?
Going back to the scenario, all I'm simply saying is that I got the money for nothing more than being 18 years old and being born into a rich family.
I didn't earn the money.
On the other hand, you earned the money.
Okay, on the other hand, instead of insulting you straight away and going like, this kid's a fucking idiot, I decided to get your positive attributes that you got from maintaining the money, from getting the money and getting it, and then that's it.
But I got it just for being 18 years old.
That's my point.
But guess what?
You didn't blow the money one day, did you?
No, but some people, though, that's my point.
So instead of just judging you immediately, you're going like, this kid's a fucking idiot and they just gave him the money fucking blindly?
No, but the original question though, it didn't ask that.
It had asked, you know, based off their experiences, not at 18 or when they were originally handed that money, it was based off those experiences when they were now 28, which is 10 years later at the high school reunion.
So, I mean, I feel like with that being said, you have to take those experiences they had in the past 10 years, right?
Blowing it on hookers and gambling and doing stupid shit with the money.
Alright, yeah.
And also, I feel like some people just have money to fucking spend.
You know what I mean?
And they'll give their kids money.
And I have those experiences with some friends.
You know what I mean?
Some friends that are my age.
I'm 21.
Would you take their financial advice seriously?
Fuck no!
My only fan is doing me better.
What about you?
Would you take my financial advice seriously?
No.
Going back to your question.
So, you want to take financial advice from the trustman baby, correct?
So why the hell should a man listen to how women interpret sexuality?
Women don't earn their sexual market value.
Men do.
In other words, men are the self-made millionaires.
Women are the trust fund babies.
It goes back to the example I gave you before with the boat.
You could be on a yacht tomorrow with multi-millionaire successful men that have way more status and income than you.
However, for me to be on that same boat, I need to bring some type of value and substance.
Men must earn their value.
Women are given their value.
So we don't play by the same set of rules.
So your whole situation of, oh, well, you should be able to repress your sexuality and that's not fair and use some self-control.
Women don't use self-control when they may select.
Women want the best that they can get, correct?
Why is it that we try to suppress what men want to do, but we never suppress what women want to do?
We don't shame women for their standards.
Get the best that you can get, girl.
Get the millionaire.
Get the baller.
You deserve it.
You earned it.
You're a princess.
If I tell a guy, go ahead and do whatever you want because you actually have to earn your value, you want to get girls, you want to date multiple women, you should be able to do so because you actually earn it.
I'm looked at as an asshole and I can't control myself.
By certain people.
I'm sorry.
I don't see the relevance in that.
That wasn't genuinely my question.
My question was, why do you see it as okay to cheat on a woman?
It's just personal preference, though.
It's just like polyamory, just like if you're a swinger, just like if you are choosing whatever lifestyle you want, there's nothing wrong with it.
It's just a personal preference.
Hold on, hold on.
Did you not see the analogy of what I did there?
You didn't answer it the way I needed to hear it because the way I asked it was different.
You said girlfriend and to have a girlfriend you're supposed to naturally be loyal.
So why do you, like you said, you can have the best girlfriend in the world and still go around and fuck other women.
You're still gonna want to is what I'm saying.
You said want to.
Yes, men are gonna want to.
They're gonna want to have other women even if they got the best girlfriend.
If that's the case, my apologies.
I believe you said you would.
Bruh.
Okay.
Alright.
Yo, so let's reach out, please.
Because it's like 2 o'clock in the morning.
Friday night.
Sorry, man.
I tried, man.
You know.
Alright.
I'm going to be honest here.
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, right?
But you can go find a date.
For me to find a date, I need to have my shit together.
I can't just find a date by not being able to understand analogies and understand discussions and arguments that are made succinctly and very concisely to me.
You, on the other hand, can still find a date while being fairly incompetent.
During the course of this podcast, when I've spoken with you, it's pretty obvious that your IQ isn't that high.
But that's fine because it doesn't matter because as a female, you're able to mate without having higher IQ and competence.
Men do, though.
That's my point.
So since men have to earn their value, we get to dictate how many girls we want to fuck.
You guys don't earn your value.
You are given value at birth.
Why do you believe I have a low IQ?
Why does this podcast completely determine what you believe of me?
You don't know me that well.
I mean, we have 27K.
I've had a discussion with you and I've articulated things in a fairly concise and articulate manner, yet you don't understand.
I misinterpreted what you said.
Lastly, I'm just trying to understand why you would believe it's okay to even have lust for another woman when you're in a relationship.
Why you would more than likely be upset if it's vice versa.
I just explained it because men have to earn their value while women do not.
But who says?
Why do you have to earn?
Like, I can go on a date with a guy who doesn't have to be a millionaire.
I've gone on dates with people who are just like me.
I just got out of high school.
No, but he can't show up as a slob, never washing his hands, dirty fingernails.
Yeah, but nobody can.
Like, you're not going to show up to a date like that.
That's I mean, I think with all due respect to the hosts, women can get away with a lot more than men in regards to their tactical level.
I don't think that any...
I mean, let's not cap that.
Let's not cap that, ladies.
I think women can earn more value, though.
I mean...
We're not born well-mannered.
We're not born able to take care of our hair to look good.
We can't earn some value growing up.
It's not like we're born and we just look good, well-mannered, speak well.
No, but I do think that once you get to a certain age, you do have a certain innate thing as for men and women to, I guess, in more of a sexual way.
Oh, my bad, my bad.
But in like a sexual way to do one thing or another, if that makes sense, as well as little things like fucking clipping your nails or this or that, which I feel like now you see it a lot less, which with things that I was asked not to mention, but I feel like you see it less now, most definitely, but I do feel like there's certain things that we innately know to do and not to do.
The point is that there's no real burden of performance on women, but there is absolutely a burden of performance on men.
A girl can be average looking, Still go ahead and get a guy four to five notches above her in the sexual marketplace.
But a man can't do that.
Men date down, women date up.
And the reason why women are able to date up because the threshold to be attractive to a man is far less.
The burden of performance that falls on woman is her ability to bring peace to the man, to understand the man.
But that's after attraction's already established, which the man has to be.
Yeah, that's true.
A man has to like to be able to go any further with you.
But we were talking about raising value.
We're like, I understand where you're coming from.
All I was saying was I was adding a side point is that women do have to work on their value.
They're not just going to...
But that's after the man has established that he's attractive in the first place where she feels that he's worthy of giving peace.
So it all comes back.
See, my thing is I always begin at the starting line and work my way back.
Women typically...
This is why...
No offense to you ladies.
You guys assume attraction and then say...
Well, I'm attracted to this and that, and I need him to be that, blah, blah.
But you guys are assuming attraction.
I'm going all the way.
I'm saying that guy's not even going to get a chance unless he's attractive enough for you to even want to give him peace, to even want to go on a date with him, to even want to give him a chance.
That's not true.
It's not only based on attraction when it comes to that man.
Why are you talking?
Okay, we're going to excuse you, and we're going to move forward.
No, no, I want to see her.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, me?
Like I said, when it comes to a man, the thing is, a woman will only go as far as a man will let her in this day and age.
In this day and age, in this society, a woman will only go as far as a man will let her.
Can you explain that?
Oh, a woman can only do this because a man is only like this because a woman says this because a man allows it.
A woman says this about a man because a man allows it.
Oh, a woman doesn't want me because I don't do this and this and this and this and that.
Can you define what this and this and that is and everything else that you're saying right now?
I don't understand what argument you're trying to make or what point you're trying to make.
The point I was trying to make is that you're saying, oh, a woman...
Look, the burden of responsibility falls on us at different points in time.
Men have to be the attractors, but women have to also up their value to secure...
You seem to be forgetting, honestly, as men, you seem to be forgetting a lot of the principles and the values that you seem to grow as men came from a woman.
A lot of the basic shit that you know is because from a woman.
It didn't come from a man.
It came from a woman.
Explain that.
So, get the fuck out of here, bro.
Get the fuck out of here.
Explain that.
Like I said, a lot of the things that you know, oh, a woman does this, a woman does that, a woman looks like this, so a man has to accept this, and accept this, and accept that.
A lot of the common knowledge and the basic knowledge that you learn and obtain in your early years of life and growing is from a woman, not a man.
You sound fucking dumb, bro.
Who sounds dumb in particular?
What argument sounds dumb?
Okay.
The fact that you guys are the type of men that like to point your fingers and blame women for everything.
For everything.
What are we blaming women on?
Everything.
Can you give us an example?
Chivalry is dead.
Everything is just because of women.
Men can't do this because of women.
And men can't do this because of women.
When the majority of shit in life in this world has been fucking restricted because of men.
You're speaking in generalities.
Be specific.
Specifically, chivalry is dead.
And you're talking about now?
Because the men like to act like women.
They like to act like women.
That's my point.
So who do you think is more responsible?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me ask you because you're ranting now.
The thing is the men assume...
Let me ask you a question.
My point.
My point that I'm getting to that it has to relate within the topic.
I'm relating within the topic.
All right.
Come on.
Go ahead.
Like I said, what I'm relating within the topic is that things that have to do within this day and age, and oh, chivalry is dead, is because women have contributed at one point to men's chivalry, and when we did, we still got played like a fucking idiot.
So we're put on game, and we're like, you know what?
We peep into your chivalry bullshit, and it's not really fucking chivalry, and that we just, you know what?
A lot of shit that you do and that you hold over my head, I can do for myself.
And so as soon as we figured out how to do it for ourselves, oh, why are you like this?
Why are you like this?
Or why are you like that?
Let me ask you this.
So who contributed more to the death of chivalry and romance than Chivalry and romance?
Giving flowers?
You wouldn't have known about flowers.
The thing is, you wouldn't know how to cater to a woman if it wasn't for a woman's mentality and reaction.
You guys would have had no fucking clue.
You guys would have no sense of direction of what it is that a woman wants without a woman.
I asked you a very specific question.
I'm asking you.
Who is responsible for the death of chivalry and romance?
The death of chivalry is that men act like bitches.
It's the men act like bitches.
Do you think it has to put more responsibility on the males or the females for the death of chivalry?
The thing is the death of chivalry, it has a lot to do with social media.
It doesn't have to do with a certain gender.
You're pointing fingers at a gender when you...
So social media usage, cool.
Who is more negatively impacted from social media usage when it comes to dating and courting?
It has to do with people in general because they're brainwashing both of the genders.
And you're literally the prime example of one of the genders that are being brainwashed.
You're pointing your fingers at a woman.
And I bet you there's a feminist woman out there that point their fingers at a man.
So if you had to pick one, who do you think contributed more to the degradation of chivalry and romance?
You said social media.
Cool.
Now, let's go another layer.
Who's more responsible?
I don't blame a gender.
That's my problem between the both of you.
I don't blame a gender.
I blame the government.
I don't blame the gender.
Whose mans is this?
Whose mans is this, bro?
Okay, I don't blame.
I don't...
Because the thing is, a lot of shit would be different if social media wasn't created.
Holy shit, dude.
You're blaming women solely.
That's my point.
How did the government destroy chivalry?
Please tell us.
A lot of a woman's and a man's basic mentality is based on the things that they see and the things that they absorb.
Our brain is a sponge.
So they're basing it off of music videos, songs, movies, things like that.
That's my point.
The government has to do with what's released within pop culture.
You sound dumb.
Really?
Yes!
Can you explain that?
Yes!
The whole point why this is even allowed to be released is based off the government!
Because you're saying they're not censoring, let's say for example.
That's my point.
There's certain things they won't censor and there's certain things that I won't say because my point is you're pointing the finger base solely off of women.
It doesn't have to do with women.
The masculinity of women came out because of men in the first place.
Really?
Yes!
Okay, so it's the government.
My point of chivalry is dead in the first place is because of the world in the first place.
The government, the world, the way that everything evolved.
The way that the world evolved in the first place.
You're basing your misogynistic ass fucking ideas off of what?
Look at what the fuck is in this day and age.
Look at what's available and what's access to us right now.
Do you know the definition of misogyny now?
What's the definition of misogyny?
We told you earlier, what's the definition of misogyny?
What's the definition of misogyny?
Yeah, we told you earlier.
You actually agreed.
What is it?
Because you used it in your rant just now, so I'm asking you to define it.
Okay, so you're going to tell us how the government destroyed chivalry?
Like I said, you're relating something solely based off of facts off of this day and age.
You're basing facts off of something that's not generally a fact that a lot of people, a lot of people in this world would disagree with you on.
So it's not necessarily a fact.
It's an opinion that you have, that you're entitled to, which is why I'm hearing you out, which is why I'm not cutting you off in the first place.
There's more people than that in the world, which is why I'm not really hearing.
Murray, stop laughing!
Murray, stop laughing!
I mean, I gave you a chance to articulate your point and you didn't really articulate it at all.
You just went from, like, it's no one's fault to it's social media's fault, then it went to the government's fault, and then you said it's the world's fault, and then you went all over the place except for answering the question, who's more responsible for the death of chivalry, males or females in general?
You couldn't answer it.
So, and you can't even define misogyny either.
Yeah, I mean, she...
Without the respect, you're also dumb.
What are you going to say?
I'm also dumb.
Yeah, you're pretty dumb.
I gave you a chance to prove me wrong, but you literally just reinforced that you are low IQ as well.
What are you going to say?
I can define misogyny if needed, but...
Alright, go ahead.
Do it.
Okay.
Disdain, dislike, prejudice against women.
I mean, it's the hatred of women, but...
That was the technical definition.
I think that was pretty good.
What else do you have to say?
I'm still firm on men are responsible for chivalry...
I'm sorry, I can't pronounce it very well.
The death of chivalry?
Yes.
What is your factual basis for that?
I mean, chivalry is giving a woman a rose, taking her out to dinner, opening the door for her, and naturally...
Okay, so how did men kill it?
Y'all are naturally refusing it.
You're not doing it.
Why are they refusing it?
Because you want to.
Why do they want to refuse to give women chivalry?
What is the root of the problem?
Why are they choosing to not practice chivalry?
Ignorance.
Rejection.
Because chivalry should be used in every date.
Whether you like the woman or not, if you dislike her, you leave.
You should have that mutual respect, no matter what, until that respect is gone.
That she gives you a reason not to respect her.
Chivalry should be used with most women, for women in general.
I mean, you're choosing to not be respectful.
You're choosing to just...
Be that bad boy role because rejection.
I believe that could be why.
I mean, I don't really think it's completely dead either way.
Yeah, to be honest.
I mean, I do OnlyFans and I still get that shit.
Not even gonna lie.
Do you fuck those guys?
Totally, yeah.
Stop the cap.
No, I'm being dead ass.
With the situationship, I 100% bang the situationship.
The thing is though, you like them though.
You have to like them first.
No, I do.
I do like them.
Most guys, you're not gonna like.
No, I do like him.
No, I actually do.
I actually do, for once.
I would argue he's a bad boy, because he's not taking you serious, even though you want that.
So he's exhibiting bad boy characteristics that we're talking about.
He does, which are kind of, eh.
Yo.
This is fucking wild.
Yo, is this the dumbest panel we've ever had?
Nah.
Some girls are actually...
Not all the girls, but the girls that have been dumb has been like, this has been bad.
Top three, right?
It is so bad that I can't even speak, bro.
Yo, this was comedy.
Some of y'all out here are sharper than others.
God damn!
I mean, I tried to enter early, but god damn, man.
It hasn't happened, though.
Okay, so...
Here's the thing, though.
The dumb girls can still find dates.
Yeah.
Facts.
They'll be fine.
That'll be alright.
It'll be fine.
Someone will still want to take you out.
Look, it's two in the morning.
You go start, you know...
You'll fight somebody, yeah.
You'll fight somebody.
Like, luckily for you guys, right?
You don't have to be competent, man.
I mean...
You gave me a good laugh.
I ain't gonna lie.
Yeah, she was crazy.
She was like, I'm a daddy cat.
I'm 38.
I have a voice.
I have a voice.
I'm like, you are...
Well, I'm glad you did, and I hope you have a daughter one day so someone can talk to her the exact same way, the same way that you're talking to me.
Yes, I will.
With my daughter, I will let her know how the world really works.
Don't worry, someone will nine times out of ten talk to her in the same derogatory term That you're talking to me.
I will talk to my daughter.
Very matter of fact, very candidly.
But okay, don't worry about it.
And I will tell her how the world really works.
Don't worry about it.
Karma's a thing.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Go ahead, continue.
Go ahead, continue.
I haven't talked to you in any way, shape, or form.
No, you actually did.
You did call me a dumbass earlier.
I counted it three times.
But the thing is, what did you call me?
I'm sorry, but what did you call me before that?
You actually are dumb.
But what did you call me before that?
I think that's a fact at this point.
My point is, what did you call me before that?
No, you actually are dumb.
It is a fact that you are dumb.
That's great!
The same way that...
I'm still not speaking to you out of character, even though I have all the rights to you.
I tell the truth.
I'm keeping my composure because I'm a dog.
That's okay.
Someone's gonna talk to your daughter.
Don't worry about it, because the same way you're talking to me, someone's gonna talk to your daughter.
The same way, and do worse, actually.
That she's dumb and she says dumb things.
Don't worry about it.
Someone's gonna do the same way that you're speaking to your daughter.
Hey, man.
The same way you're speaking to me.
I wish someone told you that you were dumb when you were younger.
You might not have been able to learn something and realize, like, damn.
That's great.
Let me take information in, interpret it correctly, formulate a response that articulate that actually makes sense instead of making ridiculous claims and going on random rants that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Right.
You literally made yourself look like a fool in front of almost 30,000 people on the internet.
And insulting me in front of 30,000 people.
It's not an insult if it's the truth.
You are stupid.
You don't know me at all whatsoever.
- But that's great.
- But that's great.
- You are low-eyed.
- That's great.
If you think of insulting, it makes you feel better and inferior as a man.
That's why women are so-- - Take a deep breath.
- Right, I guess.
- Take a deep breath.
- I guess women have the stature that they have.
They do in life.
- Take a deep breath.
- No, no, no, no, no, no.
This isn't women, this is just you. - I haven't raised my voice.
I haven't called you out of your name.
- No, you've raised your voice plenty of times.
- That's wonderful.
I'm glad you feel that way.
Yes, we do.
Thank you.
And you're still going.
Nice.
You're still single.
You're still a queen.
Whatever it is, what it is, man.
I didn't claim myself to be.
We're going to move forward because you're not making any sense.
It's 2 in the morning.
It's good entertainment.
That's wonderful.
It's Friday night.
Yeah, it's Friday night.
It's Friday night.
Zena, stop trying to show your new dress.
I mean, it's alright, but come on.
Alright, anyway.
Yes, goes.
Ladies, if the girl next to you was your ex's current girlfriend, would you say he leveled up or leveled down from you?
Remember, you may have just rated her, was that?
Chris, on a 1 in 10 scale?
I'm going to say he did something different.
I'm going to say he did something different for this one.
I'm going to say we're both different, but we're both, you know, whatever percentage we might be in our own level.
But we're both different for sure.
Very different.
Shit.
Come on.
That was a mad nice answer.
We're the best of both worlds.
Okay.
We'll take that as an answer.
Tamarix says, question.
What is bedroom fun more to you?
A business, recreational activity with friends, to be shared with someone special, or for procreation only?
Wait, I don't...
What's your description of it, I guess?
I don't understand what he's asking.
He's saying, what is bedroom fun to you?
A business?
Recreational activity with friends?
Or, to be sure, someone special?
For procreation only.
Or for procreation only.
Don't answer that.
Enigma.
Wait, wait, wait.
This is too much, bro.
Are traditional gender roles necessary for a stable, harmonious society?
Or do they perpetrate the idea of inequality?
Perpetuate.
Perpetuate.
And limit individual freedoms, by the way.
Adri says hi.
All right.
Audrey?
Freshest balls.
Oh, God.
Yes, sir!
What's the pettiest thing you've done after a breakup?
Fresh fit playing.
Kelsey hasn't had a BBC before, right?
Fuck, yo!
This is the perfect time to introduce her to your 11-inch...
Trust your snake.
Make the move fresh and do me justice.
Yes, sir!
How do they know that?
Yes, sir!
Get him fresh!
Yo, this has to be an OnlyFans.
That's my dog!
Okay, what's the pettiest thing you've done after a breakup?
Pettiest thing.
Wait.
Pettiest thing you've done after a breakup?
Pettiest thing.
Fresh quit playing Kelsey.
Wait, what?
Kelsey hasn't had the BB? I'm dead, yo.
Don't read that.
I'm dead.
So, girls.
There you go.
Sorry.
I'm kind of vanilla.
I don't really do revenge or anything petty.
I just kind of live my life and live great and they pretty much hit me up when they see I'm living my best life.
I don't really do anything petty.
Next.
Okay.
After he cheated, I called his mother and I notified the type of boy he raised.
That's about it.
We had a good conversation and she beat his ass.
That's what I was told.
Never mind.
Go ahead.
I'm going to skip on that one.
No, I'm going to say it.
Was it that bad?
Huh?
Was it that bad?
What are we talking?
Tire slashing?
What are we talking?
Like stabbing?
Car?
Go ahead.
No, I'm going to skip.
Call the cops.
Nah, I'm not a snitch.
I don't call the cops.
But he got a beating.
From who?
Your brothers?
You?
Come on now.
My...
Yeah.
There you go.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Pettiest thing you've done after a breakup?
I haven't had that many relationships, never mind breakups, because, you know, you need the first part to have the second.
And honestly, I don't think I've ever really been that mad.
Usually I'm the one who initiates it, so...
Seems about right.
Yeah, I haven't...
Yeah, honestly.
Okay, what about you?
I don't think I've had anything crazy out of it.
I started dating his ex-brother-in-law.
Ooh.
Damn, you a savage.
Oh, that's petty.
You from Miami, for real.
Okay.
What about you?
I don't do that.
I just step away.
So you say.
You're Dominican.
What about you?
Same.
Step away.
You step away?
Man, alright, cool.
When I was very young, very different, my first boyfriend, we broke up and I dated his good friend.
Oh, let's see.
Did it hurt him?
It was not the right thing to do.
But did it hurt him?
Or did it hurt you more, you think?
I think it was both.
I think it was a very rude thing to do.
But I had feelings.
We both had feelings for each other, so we wanted to explore if there was something there.
So you fucked your homeboy's friend?
We were in a relationship after that.
It wasn't just retaliatory.
Okay.
That's on, Chris.
Alright, where we at?
The Scott Redder episode was the absolute best episode from the podcast.
Fresh, why did you leave?
You never leave.
The after-hour show with the annoying women.
Explain, boss man.
Networking, man.
Gotta try to get some special guests for y'all.
Knock off Mia Khalifa is really lost.
GPS signal been gone.
I think he means a Christian girl.
Of course.
Auntie, at what age did you say, fuck man, I'm getting old.
30.
That's cute.
Here's a lesson that I want to share to women of all ages that watch the show.
All ten of you.
Be...
No matter what age you are, you will be attractive to a certain type of man.
But you have to be humble.
You have to be able to take accountability.
You have to bring value to a man, no matter how old you are.
My bracket has changed.
Do I date divorced men?
Yes.
Do I date men who potentially have children?
Yes.
I still do very well in the dating market because I respect men considerably.
So I think that...
For women who are watching, you will always have options, but you can't be rude.
You can't be entitled.
You have to respect certain gender roles and you have to respect men.
So Chad is saying cope.
So are you coping or are you just like, you know?
No.
Okay.
No, not at all.
And I think that most men would agree that it's not hard in today's dating market to be attractive as a woman because women are...
And I think that you guys would agree.
Yeah, women play the game on easy mode.
Yeah.
So I think that when a woman decides to actually take responsibility, to actually take accountability, to actually learn about men and how they work and what they want.
I would argue most girls are allergic to accountability, Bill.
But no, you're proving my point is, this guy asked me, like, you can be very attracted to a man by doing these certain types of things, by actually taking accountability.
It doesn't take much nowadays, because there are so few women that do.
That's true, but I mean, most women don't be accountable.
I mean, hell, a couple of your arguments earlier, you were not taking accountability.
I mean, I was, I mean, but hey, it is what it is, man.
It is what it is.
No, you just weren't making solid enough points for me to agree with you.
But the ones that you do make solid points, I do agree with you.
I mean, you're 38, so...
What is, hold on, what is, and?
You're all the shit.
I mean, she's almost 40!
No, bro.
Chad, really?
Come on, man.
And that's your platform, eh?
And I get that.
That's fine.
If you want to treat women like that, that's totally fine.
Good luck.
What's your point?
Just so that you criticize people and put people down, like that's your argument?
That makes you look like a douchebag.
Yeah, because my point, because when you were, what, 1918, you actually treated guys who were actually nice to you right now.
No, absolutely.
I did not pull, I was a late bloomer, my friend.
Yeah.
I grew up very Catholic, very, very, I have four older brothers.
They locked me in the house.
So no, that's not an argument at all.
I mean, you fucked the brothers, but anyways.
What did he say?
I think the point I'm trying...
What I was saying before...
What did he just say?
Sorry, Fresh.
Don't worry about it.
Sorry, Fresh.
What I was saying before with women not taking accountability is because I was just saying that women control who has sex, so therefore since women control who has sex, they have to take an accountability for who they have sex with.
That's all I'm saying.
Myron, and I think that there are certain things on this podcast that we did take accountability for, and there are some things that you were basing an argument off of an opinion, and that's all that we were saying.
Which was?
There were many things tonight said on the podcast that were based on your opinion.
The fact is, if you control who has sex, that means you have authority.
Are we still back to chivalry is dead because of women?
Yes.
I wish...
The thing on this podcast that I really...
Are we going to go give feedback?
Like, are we going to have an opportunity to have a greater discussion?
By the end.
Okay.
Because we're trying to end it, but...
I'll save my point.
It's like almost four hours now.
I'm just...
Bro, you...
Okay.
This whole concept of authority and responsibility is something that women really struggle to understand.
Like, you guys want all the equality and power that a man has without having the responsibility that a man has.
If something is fucked up, we are okay with blaming men, which I think is great.
However, when women fuck up, we don't blame the women.
We blame the men that they picked!
I do not believe so.
I think that there are plenty of women who are looking at feminism and going, ooh, this did not work out for us very well.
At what age?
There's tons of women all over the place.
When it's too late.
Women typically don't realize feminism was a lie until it's too late.
Women also don't see certain narcissistic traits in men until they have a maturity and a life experience that gives them that.
Women grow up.
Who's responsible for that?
Themselves.
It's still up to them.
Accountability.
Gone.
Okay.
Count two times.
Gia, do you want to come over and watch some Aladdin because I'm trying to get those cheeks clapping?
Who's Gia?
Which one was that one?
I'm right here.
Oh, shit.
Hey, bro, he must have said that shit earlier, because if you listen to her talk, you're going to be pissed.
Nah, there was like two or three other comments about the girl with pink hair.
He's like, she's the only one that's going to get her cheeks spread, like some shit like that.
I think their opinion is going to...
These came way earlier, bro.
I think once they heard her talk, they're probably like, oh, man, I don't know if I can do this.
Miss Pink Hair is the only one on the panel I would knock down Yardy.
That's what I was talking about.
That's the one.
Longwood candy bread beat her proper.
That's the one I was talking about.
So you sing Longwood Candy Green.
Be prepared, bro.
She's gonna interrupt what you're saying to make a point that has nothing to do with what you're talking about, man.
Alright.
You'll own nothing and be happy.
That is very true.
It's coming.
You'll own nothing and be happy again.
Lurker, my headphones, get her out, please.
What was he talking about?
Oh, I think it was talking about you because you were yelling.
Do you have anything you want to say back to him?
There's you.
He was talking to you.
My headphones.
Do you have anything you want to say back to him?
I wasn't yelling.
No, you were.
I mean, if you want me to yell, I can yell.
But I wasn't yelling.
Because if you want me to yell, I can yell.
You were yelling earlier.
I wasn't yelling.
I wasn't yelling.
So, like I said, I wasn't yelling.
Are you going to blatantly lie when we have you on 4K yelling?
Like I said, I wasn't yelling, so if I was yelling to you...
That is yelling to a lot of people.
Moe had to turn your microphone, your mic down several times.
I wasn't yelling.
You guys were talking over me, so I was just trying to state my point.
As if I wasn't yelling.
You were yelling.
I wasn't yelling.
You want me to yell?
Listen, just watch the show back.
You are very difficult.
Yeah, yeah.
Facts.
That's why you're single.
I let you guys speak.
When you guys tell me to shut the fuck up, I don't rebuttal.
I just stay quiet.
I let you guys do your thing.
Whereas, I could really...
Currently, now I'm talking and you're still talking.
Okay, cool.
Thank you.
Okay.
Shut up.
Okay.
I could rebuttal like I wanted, but I don't.
Fresh.
But okay.
Yes.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Like, really?
Okay.
Why are you engaging her, bro?
Hey, listen.
I'm petty as fuck.
I'm gonna fuck.
Cool.
Yeah, pettiness is actually a sign of low IQ, so I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Who's fuck right now?
Because we're all rumble right now.
Thank you.
The old auntie.
Granny?
Yeah.
Alright, so auntie.
So you throw personal attacks when you don't have a good point?
Do you know what that shows?
Do you know what that shows?
It shows a little like you.
Chris, you said what?
Who is this douchebag?
He's back.
Hey, whoa.
At least, uh, you know what, like, what, 38 right now, and you have a douche.
Keep going, keep going.
That's your only argument.
Yeah, because that's the only thing you have to offer to me.
Like, come on, man.
Like, like, like, like, really, like, come on now.
All right, so, if I wanted to fuck you, right?
Wow, this is so...
Thought-provoking.
What is the benefit of me, like, actually, like, like, it's fucking four hours, right?
On a Friday night, right?
In Miami, right?
Mo, Mo, come on, man.
I could be in Van Dome with 18, like, girls who are 18, like, hot chicks, right?
But I'm trying to listen to you for a fucking sentence all night.
So tell me, why am I here right now?
Didn't coach 1.2 mil on TikTok?
No, you should go be with those girls who match your IQ. That sounds about good.
I want to.
That sounds about right.
Why?
Because my dick would be fucking tough.
I mean, well, hard, but I don't know.
Because you fucking blew my brain cells.
Mine was tweaking the whole night to a point where he's like, yo, Chris, I get it.
Chris, give it up, honey, baby.
You ain't making any points.
You gave it up a long time ago.
20 years ago.
When he was 18, but like, you fucking...
Oh my gosh.
What the fuck are you wearing?
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I love that I triggered you, though.
Thank you.
No, no, no, no.
I wish you triggered me because I'll be hard right now.
I'm not hard right now.
I'm soft.
Wow.
What the fuck?
You are fantastic.
You're not a douche.
All right.
Pastor Fresh.
Pastor Fresh says, Virginia, stay behind after the show so I can cleanse your soul and expel the demons.
Is that the last girl?
Oh, that girl.
Oh, that girl?
Okay.
Never be.
No!
Don't, don't, don't.
Eli from Jersey.
Myron, liquor and antidepressants don't mix, gang.
This panel is a joke.
Hey, bro, it is what it is.
Not everyone.
Everett was real sincere, dating coach, exposing her.
She claims she is for men, but after today's podcast, she truly does not.
Sarah, stop misleading men.
You have anything you want to say back to them?
I don't know what the conversation led you to believe that I'm not for men.
There were multiple points where I agreed and stood up for Myron and Fresh.
So I'm not quite sure.
Most of your clients, men or women?
Both.
It's 50-50?
Mm-hmm.
Interesting.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Most of my clients, it's 70-30.
70-30 in favor of men or women?
Yeah, of course.
Of men?
Yeah.
How is that relevant to the point?
No, I was just asking.
Well, here's the thing.
I genuinely don't think men should get dating advice from women.
I don't think women...
I know your stance on it.
I know your stance on it.
Yeah.
But hey, man, I mean, if guys get value out of it, they get a value out of it.
But I've always said if you're going to ask if you want to catch fish, you have to ask the fishermen, not necessarily the fish, because the fish is only limited to telling you what what bait works for them.
Well, they might not tell you what other bait works for other types of fish.
Yeah.
And the reason why that saying is the way that it is, is because typically women will not be completely honest with men.
Again, growing up with four older brothers, having the ability to talk to men like men, there are women that can have a conversation and can be upfront with men.
And I would say that my clients would agree that I am pretty upfront with them.
We wish you the best.
This is why Zerka says arguing with women is the argument of a child.
If you aren't capable of having a logical and honest conversation, you should get off the pod.
Question for ladies.
Have you accepted the possibility that you might die alone?
Yes, yes, yes.
100%.
All right.
Okay.
Awesome.
Fantastic.
Venom goes, that religious girl, Cap, she didn't find Jesus in the bedroom.
It was a Mexican named Jesus.
Oh, my God.
Future Chris.
Yeah, she said that he came to her room or whatever.
Yeah, I was like...
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's a controversial take.
What I've come to realize is anytime a girl says, I'm celibate now, or I found God, or whatever...
More than likely, she fucked a bunch of dudes in the whole phase.
And she's like, damn, this shit ain't fulfilling.
I'm gonna switch my path up.
And, you know, it is what it is.
Future Chris says, emergency chat.
Myron, nobody agrees with the three girls.
I ask each of the girls what they think.
They're all shaking their heads at the three idiots.
The three are hurting the quality of the show.
I've seen them shaking their heads.
I've seen them.
Like, these bitches are retarded.
Jesse Wallace.
Silver is dead because women don't appreciate it.
They get it so often that it's just the norm, like you were saying.
That's what you said.
When it becomes the norm, they stop showing any kind of appreciation, so men stop doing it because their efforts are all in vain.
Well said.
Andrew Y says, that's the dumbest podcast ever till now.
Good job, ladies.
You guys keep it up.
And Myron, I don't know what you're going to lose after you're here.
Good luck, Gs.
Amen.
Lost some hair follicles on today's show.
SGS Lalo.
Shout out to you.
Appreciate that, my friend.
Alright, so we'll turn it to ladies to get the last comments, questions, or thoughts.
Ladies, this is the last one on the show.
This was tough.
And then you're going to give your comments, questions, or last thoughts on the show.
We'll start.
Where do you want to start?
Right here.
Because she has something to say.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, actually, we should start here because she might have the most.
Okay, cool.
Go ahead.
I wish that we would have covered more, like...
Intersexual dynamics, how men and women can truly get along better, where we are bridging the gap.
The one thing that unfortunately I find with your podcast is that it can be very polarizing sometimes.
And we spend a lot of time on one point, and I understand why that is.
But I had a lot of questions for you that we didn't get to.
A lot of other things that we could have talked about that could potentially help men and help women.
Whatever women see the clips.
So that is my only sadness.
That is my...
What was the thing you wanted to ask?
Hit us with one of them.
Go ahead.
You had mentioned something that men need to look for in a quality woman.
I think that that would be very beneficial for men.
So what is that?
We were having a discussion about, you know, as far as like life and material, this guy had asked a question about, you know, where do you find this type of woman?
Yeah.
So please provide your feedback and let's talk about that.
Those are the things that I would have loved to have talked about.
You brought up some good points.
I would just say...
From the standpoint of a man, you have to become that man that she wants to be with.
So ultimately speaking, you have to create that woman.
So she doesn't come to you prepared.
You have to become that man that she wants to be with.
And then say, you know what?
All right, as a man, here's my program.
Here's what I want you to follow.
And if you can follow it, to me, you're special in that sense.
So that's what I was saying earlier.
I believe I said something very similar to that, but...
You did, but you didn't harp on a point of life.
For example, you're talking about specific areas to find the women.
You've got to form her to become that woman.
She's not going to be that after it.
I think men have to train women.
Yeah, because a lot of girls, thanks to feminism in modern day society, have a lot of bad habits.
Train?
What?
Train?
Yeah, train.
Is she a dog?
Dog?
But you brought up regular points and you skimmed over that a little bit.
Okay.
What about you?
I think I just agree with what she said.
All right, give us your question that you wanted to bring up then.
Go ahead.
I don't have a question.
I just agree with what she said with what the discussions that we should have brought up that should have been brought up.
What should we have brought up then?
Go ahead.
This is your chance to bring it up.
Go ahead, Wayne.
Everything that she said.
Literally.
We should have figured out some sort of resolution to bring a bridge between the men and the women instead of just pointing fingers at somebody and just blaming somebody.
Because that didn't resolve shit.
You guys just talk shit on a mic.
You guys literally pulled a Wendy Williams on a fucking mic.
If you have a solution, tell us what it is.
The thing is, that's the resolution that we're supposed to come to as men and women, but Clearly you're not meant.
Let me ask you this.
Fair enough.
Let me ask you this then.
To solve a problem, don't you have to identify why the problem exists first?
The thing is, in order to communicate about something, we have to be able to communicate on any sort of level at all whatsoever.
But the thing is, your resort to anything when it comes to women is derogatory terms.
Which is why I brought up that the day that you do have a daughter, or if you do have a daughter, a man is going to treat her the same way That you treat women.
So, realize that.
And that's exactly what the fuck is going to happen to your daughter or if you do have a daughter one day.
And that's exactly it.
The thing is, you didn't try to communicate.
You just try to point fingers at women and that's it.
I'm trying to communicate right now.
If you have a problem, right?
Isn't it incumbent upon you to identify why that problem is happening and fix it at the cost?
Right, but you could have asked us, ladies, do you agree that the dating arena right now is a shit show?
Yes.
Okay, we agree that there's a problem.
Now, how do we fix it?
How do we fill in the gaps?
Where do we go from here?
That is...
How I would particularly have run the podcast.
Yes sir, you're absolutely right.
That's my point.
No, no, no.
But what I'm saying is that we had a discussion on chivalry.
You didn't have a discussion.
You just said, this is what I think and I just want to hear what you got to say and you're dumb and you're stupid and you're fucking dumb and you're this and you're that and you get the fuck off and if you don't agree with the fuck I say, you're fucking dumb.
You remember what I said?
You didn't have a discussion.
You didn't want to try to compromise with people.
You're asking for our opinion right now.
That's my point.
You're asking for my opinion and my point is you didn't try to come to any sort of conclusion with any woman on this table.
You're just trying to deserve a derogatory term to every sort of fucking woman on this table and that's okay.
You have a mother and you have a daughter and you're going to have a daughter one day and that's okay.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry.
That's okay.
You don't got to listen to me and call me crazy as much as you fucking want and say all the things you want about me as you want to fucking say.
I articulated why chivalry is dead.
My stance is that women are more responsible for the death of chivalry than men are because men adapt to the sexual marketplace.
So women like bad boys.
Men like you.
Because there's women that are happy with women and their lives right now.
Can I say what I was going to say, please?
And then I gave you a chance.
Okay, well, who do you think is more responsible?
You went on a rant.
Then you said social media.
Then you went to go on to the government.
And we said, okay, well, tell us exactly how it's the government.
And then you went on to say, it's because of the music.
And I'm like, wait, wait, that doesn't make sense.
I never said music.
I never said music.
You can run back the cliff, you can play that shit back.
I never said music.
Did I say music?
You did.
Did I say music?
You said music, movies, pop culture.
I said music.
I didn't say music, movies, pop culture.
I said the world and the way that the world is.
The pop culture has a lot to do.
The thing is, pop culture wouldn't even be a thing.
This is my point.
You asked for my opinion and you're telling me to be quiet.
I listen very closely to everything you said and I was listening because the only way for me to refute your arguments that to listen understand and then come back with a rebuttal you on the other hand haven't been listening you've just been talking mm-hmm you asked for my opinion you're telling me I was listening to your opinion but that's great okay I was listening to your opinion you were hearing you weren't listening but that's okay the common sense isn't common and ignorance is such a fine thing in men that's great and you were the prime example I was able to You're
entitled to your opinion, and that's great.
Just as I'm entitled to mine, you didn't try to come to any sort of a compromise, and you didn't try to keep the respect level on any sort of barrier or any level at all.
You just tried to insult at all.
You just tried to insult.
And that's great.
That's great.
This is your show and you do what you want.
I didn't disrespect you in any way, shape or form.
You really want me to disrespect?
My thing is I got out of character and the only thing I probably said that was super out of pocket is the daughter thing because you called me out of term.
And that's it.
But that's about it.
No.
More.
But that's literally about it because I didn't get out of term until you did.
No, no, no.
You can run back the clip as much as you want.
Like I said, I haven't gotten out of term and I haven't called you out of your name until you did so to me.
None of your points have made sense.
You've made nonsensical arguments.
You made a bunch of nonsensical arguments.
To you, sir.
To you, old man.
To you, old man.
Sorry, young bots.
There you go.
Calling me on my fucking mate.
That's great.
That's okay.
I'm not talking to you.
I'm petty.
He's not.
That's great, but that's some bitch shit, and that's some female shit.
That's great, and that's some female shit.
That's great.
That's great.
There you go.
Keep talking shit.
There you go.
There you go.
Keep talking shit about me.
I'm a bitch, but you got titties.
That's crazy.
I ain't never seen anything you're trying to call me a bitch who got titties.
That's crazy.
I mean...
That's crazy!
I ain't never seen a nigga on TV show that call me a bitch!
I bet your shit got recoil if you jump up and down!
That's insane!
I bet your shit got recoil if you jump up and down!
I bet your shit jiggle if you jump up and down!
Hold on!
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
I literally...
I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to him.
I haven't called him out of a derogatory term.
There you go.
There you go.
I'm not talking to you.
There you go.
I'm talking to him.
I personally feel like things could have...
I personally feel like...
There you go.
I'm talking to you.
Like I said, I feel like things could have been discussed better.
You've spoken.
You've spoken.
Okay, cool.
You asked for my opinion.
No, no, no.
Shut up!
You've been kind of ranting, not making points.
There you go.
Going all around the place and not really saying anything, but I mean...
You asked for my opinion.
Your opinion, with all due respect, is incorrect.
Okay.
You didn't ask for a correct or wrong.
You asked me for my opinion on a basis.
Which can be correct.
That's great.
It's not correct or incorrect.
But it's not true.
Not true in this case.
You haven't been able to make any sense with anything you've said.
Not true in this case.
Any second is not wrong saying that you're fat because you're obese.
That is a fact.
You are obese.
I am not obese.
I can tell by looking at you that you are close to 200 pounds.
I am not close to 200 pounds in any way, shape, or form.
But that's great.
So going towards a woman's weight, then you wonder why she is dead.
Like I said, you have a mother, you have a mother, and you have a daughter.
And the way that you speak to a woman and your mother is the same way someone's going to talk to you or your mother.
And that's it.
The truth is the truth.
And that's it.
And that's it.
I'm not going to get it anyway, Shipper.
I'm not going to get on a term.
I'm not going to call you anything based off of the way that you look.
And that's okay.
You can call me old, but the reality is you are obese.
Like I said, because you are old.
You are old.
You're not young.
Like I said, you're not young.
But you're obese.
That's okay.
That's not a derogatory term calling you old, you fucking idiot.
Oh, shit.
I'm an idiot.
Now I can call you an idiot because of all the names you fucking call me.
You're a fucking idiot, Myri.
Okay.
Hey, man.
The reality is you made a lot of idiotic comments, so I think you're the idiot.
That's great.
If that's how you feel, that's sad.
And you're obese.
It sucks.
Okay, that's how you feel.
You're obese and an idiot.
That's how you feel.
I feel so sorry for you.
It must feel sad feeling like that.
How about this?
Just get up and leave, please.
Just get up and leave.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how you feel?
Calling me obese?
Just man harpoons.
Get up and leave.
I want the audience to kind of see how big you are.
That's why.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- That's fine.
- Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't - She got no ass.
Oh shit.
- There is no fucking way y'all are doing this right now.
- Oh shit.
- Oh, wait, wait, wait.
- Oh shit.
- Can't tell you what I?
- Bro, she's huge.
Wait, wait.
I had a huge M.O.S. You had one task to do, bro.
That's how you make someone kill themselves.
You know that, right?
Give an opinion and then bounce.
We make someone kill themselves?
No, no, no.
Listen to me.
You had one task to do.
I'm a huge dick.
You guys gotta be a little nicer, though.
Actually, like, hello?
Like, no, like, the ass.
Like, the ass.
The ass.
No, you're funny.
No, I'm not funny.
You're like, take it to like an 8.5.
Even if she's gonna talk shit, she's gotta be able to take it back.
It is what it is.
And here's the thing.
She is obese, bro.
It's a fact.
She's huge.
She's not obese.
I don't know the definition of obese, but I can't say that.
The meaning of obese right now.
She's 20 to 30 pounds overweight.
She's way overweight.
She would be.
Based on BMI, I'm assuming?
Yeah, bro.
That's a fact.
She's definitely 30 pounds overweight.
What are y'all talking about?
I think the stigma just sounds worse than what obese actually is.
She's obese.
She is obese.
Any doctor that way to be like, yo, she's obese.
Which is her choice, you know?
What about you?
Is she gone yet or what?
No, no, no.
Mara, she's obese, man.
While you're way out of here, man.
Relax.
She looks like a penguin, bro.
Hey, man.
Okay.
All right.
Got thoughts on the show?
Yeah.
To be honest, I think it was good because we got to go back and forth.
And this is the whole point to go back and forth.
But I feel that if you're going to say facts, you're going to say facts, not your opinion from both parties.
Like, I feel that this today was like super biased.
It was probably like 20% facts and 80% how you feel and how you think things are.
What do you disagree with in particular?
Okay, what did I disagree?
I didn't disagree on anything heavily, like, oh, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, no.
But it's at 20% though.
What you mean?
No, what I'm saying is that it has to be 20%.
There has to be more facts than opinions.
That's all I'm saying.
I never said that.
Anything, whatever you're trying to imply.
That's what I'm saying, Monica.
So...
My nigga?
Yeah.
Anyways, another thing.
I know this is the type of podcast that you guys call people names and put each other's down, but you gotta pipe it down a little bit.
Just a tiny bit.
Like, yes, it's cool.
It's fun.
It's whatever.
That gets people on air.
That's literally what people are here for.
Oh my God, he's calling you a beast.
Oh my God, oh my God.
People want that.
But you need to know when to fucking do it.
Hello!
Tonight!
So when should you tell a girl that she's dumb or whatever?
I mean, you can tell her that she's dumb, but you're just not going to go like, dumb, dumb, you're dumb, you're dumb, you're dumb.
Yes, because she is dumb.
But like, okay, I'm going to give that to you.
Okay, goodnight.
Do you not think that a bunch of girls made stupid comments that deserve to be called dumb?
I mean, yes.
Not only girls.
But the thing is, like, not only girls, because that's the thing, my nigga.
Oh, my God.
Because here's the thing.
It sounds to me like...
You observe stupidity and you're saying, yo, it shouldn't be called out, which is fine.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying, I'm not telling you to not tell nobody to call them out on their shit.
If you're doing something wrong, if you tell them I'm doing something wrong, call me out of it.
That's cool.
You have your opinion for a reason, but you need to know how to do it because at the end of the day, you are a human.
I am a human.
You want respect?
I want respect.
I feel that I've been super duper respectful and all of you guys have been super duper respectful.
Why?
Because I'm giving you something, right?
You cannot expect people to sit in this table and not feel that they're getting attacked and not attack you back.
And attack you back and forth and back and forth.
But you are the head of this.
You are the owner of this.
You are supposed to be the bigger person.
Yes, Mari.
Suck my dick.
What the fuck?
Nigga.
Yeah, nigga.
Suck my dick.
You're gonna suck my left nut.
Yep.
Suck my teeth.
All right.
Well, here's the thing.
I think when people say...
Here's the difference between how men communicate and how women communicate.
Women rarely get told that they say things that don't make sense or that they're stupid.
The reason why this podcast is so popular is because rarely do we ever tell women that they're dumb or what their views are dumb or it doesn't make sense.
Guys get to see, in 4K, girls say really stupid shit.
I mean, I'll be honest, a couple of you guys have said some dumb shit, and we called it out, it is what it is, and then you proceed to make yourself look dumb.
I said at the beginning of the pod, we can never make you look stupid, only you can make yourself look stupid.
So, it is what it is, man.
I mean...
Girls say dumb shit.
I mean, that's what it is.
Hold on, hold on.
You're going to say something?
Go ahead.
I mean, the thing is...
I'm still trying to figure out what you actually disagree with.
No, because that's the thing.
You think that I'm disagreeing with you on something.
I never said that.
Okay.
So what is the disagreement then?
I'm not disagreeing with anything.
I'm just saying, like, the form.
It's like, you can continue to whatever you're doing.
This is amazing.
This is an amazing show.
It's just...
Remember, we're human beings.
You know?
That's all.
No one is above criticism.
Nobody.
We're human beings.
My nigga.
Bye.
I'm not your nigga.
I don't know.
Okay, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Look, look, look.
No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm not your nigga.
I don't know who you talk to like that, but you're not going to talk to me like that.
Okay?
Okay.
Like, don't forget where you're at.
Like, this is something that I've had to constantly remind the girls on the panel that we're not some regular guys that you're just here talking shit to.
This podcast also does show how very average women, right?
No offense to you, but you're a very average girl, yet you're being disrespectful to guys that That surpasses you in every metric.
But this is what I mean when I say girls.
Most women don't respect most men.
Even higher status men, they don't respect them.
The way you're speaking to me right now is crazy.
But women behave this way in 2023 because most women don't respect most men.
And we prove that every single time we bring girls on.
How can you be respected if you just bully people?
You literally take valet tickets at the Marlins Stadium and you're talking to a multi-millionaire that's famous, world-renowned.
How old are you and how old am I? How old are you and how old am I? Are you an adult?
I'm 19 years old.
Are you an adult?
I graduated with 17 years old.
Answer the question.
Are you an adult?
I am an adult.
Then behave like one.
You don't want to take accountability now, right?
Like that you're being called out for your fuckery, but you still want the equality.
This is what I'm trying to say.
This proves it in 4K. A lot of girls don't want to take accountability for their actions.
I just want you to make me clear where I'm not taking responsibility, where I'm telling you, oh no, my apologies, if I painted you.
My nigga, I'm not that.
Okay, okay, cool.
My apologies, what's your name?
See, like.
Myron, Myron, Myron.
Myron, I don't know.
I don't know who you name him, I'm sorry.
What's your name?
Lack of respect.
I'm sorry.
Literally, I got invited to this show, and I was like, this is my first spot.
That's not an excuse.
Take accountability for not understanding where you're at.
All right.
Speaking crazy.
That's what I was trying to say.
We've got to ask this shit in 4K. Girls, in general, don't respect men.
Congratulations to you.
Wait, wait, wait.
It's all right.
Mirren, she's four hours into the show and she's speaking in Spanish right now.
Alright?
So, four hours into the show, you don't know what a nigga name is in its own house?
Crazy, bro.
Yo, the average guy is doing, bro.
And we prove this shit, like, every night.
This is scary, man.
Like, she's on our shit.
She's in your...
Talking crazy.
19 years old.
19!
I would never go to someone's show and tell them how to run it.
That's your show, bro.
I'm not telling you how to run it.
I'm not telling you how to run it.
Respect doesn't go both ways.
I'm sorry that I interrupted you, but I'm not telling you.
I am...
But I'm not telling you how to rule your show.
You just did.
Twice.
No.
You literally...
You said, tone it down.
Tone it down.
Tone it down.
You literally...
Didn't they ask, like, our opinions on how we think that this, like, didn't...
Get it fresh.
Get it fresh.
Like, I'm just...
I'm literally...
Let me just finish.
All right.
All I'm saying is...
Go ahead.
My opinion as ISIS... Okay.
Just treat people better.
You can take it, or you can just wipe your ass with it.
That's it.
That's it.
I'm not telling you, oh, do it like this.
No, I'm just giving you my opinion.
Probably the latter, but the point I'm trying to say here is that, in general, you've proven what we've said a lot of the times.
Women don't respect men in general.
Yeah.
Even when you're here as a guest on a podcast talking crazy, right?
And you're a 19-year-old valet taker at the Marlins Stadium talking to us like this.
Like, yo, a regular nigga's fucked.
And you got this with 4K cameras on.
I can only imagine how you would behave around a boyfriend or a guy that's trying to court you or whatever.
Like, yo, this is crazy.
And this is why men lie to women.
Real talk.
Okay, what about you?
Real talk, man.
This shit crazy.
So, I think we did waste a lot of time with a lot of stupidity.
I can agree with you on that.
And I feel like we could have put more of that energy into actual topics that have been discussed.
Way better.
And I love women.
I'm pro-woman.
But I was bothered hearing some of the things some of these women were saying.
I'm like, wow, this is really how they're representing us.
They're making us look bad.
So, I mean, I think I agree with you guys.
It's your show.
And if you don't like it, then just don't, you know, you should have never came.
I respect your perspectives.
I don't agree with everything, but I feel like also a lot of the times people, they just get emotional.
And one thing you said when you started was it's facts or feelings.
And I feel like people get into their feelings and they don't talk about facts.
And I feel like that's...
One of the biggest issues that we had tonight, if I'm being honest.
But other than that, I enjoyed the experience and I did learn a lot.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you.
I feel like I walked into this, like have already watched a bunch of your videos, so I kind of had an idea.
Not exactly what you're going to ask me, but you know, everything's kind of within the same niche.
It was pretty clear what I was going to be asked.
Honestly, everything that happened was all that was expected and more.
I'm happy about it.
I don't think that there was one moment that I was genuinely angered by anything that anybody said.
Because that's just me.
And especially expected.
So I had prepared myself for this.
But with that being said, I had a great time.
And I learned a little bit about everyone else's perspectives.
And thank you for having me on your show.
You are hilarious, by the way.
Yeah, definitely.
You're a character.
I love it.
What about you?
I appreciate you guys for giving the opportunity to come on the show.
Thank you.
And the topics were very interesting.
Do I agree with everything?
No.
What do you disagree with?
The stance on the generalization of how women act towards men.
I don't think that every woman has had the same childhood, life, so they can't possibly act the same.
Have you dated women as a man?
Have I what?
Have you ever dated women as a man?
Negative.
So how can you speak on that?
I can't.
I can't.
So why are you speaking on it?
Because I am a woman.
And I date men.
And I don't think that...
We're talking about women's behaviors towards men.
In general.
And we're talking about men's behavior towards women based off the behavior towards men.
But men behave the way that they do towards women because men want to get sex, so therefore they are going to behave in a way conducive to getting the sex, which is being a bad boy to get the sex.
And a woman is going to do what she needs to do in order to court a man.
Women don't court men.
Yeah.
Men court women.
We're in 2023 and y'all switching roles.
When?
So yeah, I would say men are becoming more feminine for sure.
But that's not what you want.
Women don't court men.
And if they do, it never lasts long term.
Women want to provide.
Maybe not court.
Maybe I used the wrong word.
Maybe just attract.
No, I don't.
Pink hair and boobs mean none.
Huh?
Hey, yo.
Not the pink hair and boobs, yo.
Chill.
I like them.
I'm sorry.
English is my second language.
Oh, now it's English is my second language.
Okay, bro.
Man, this shit is crazy, bro.
What about you?
I'm kind of curious on how you're demanding respect but I mean what I've seen tonight there has been some disrespectful comments on both sides I can admit that but however some of the things some of like the males have said it is belittling dehumanizing such as bullying such as mainly me obese no I mean she was obese But you don't have to point that out.
She's 30 pounds overweight, 100%.
It is what it is.
You don't know what's going on in her life.
It's a fact.
I don't care about the why.
It's a fact.
She's obese.
The thing is, you don't have to point it out in such a negative way.
We're people.
We feel.
And not just because we're women at the end of the day.
If the roles were reversed, this was a male podcast, females, if we're telling you...
Negative things.
You're ugly.
You're retarded.
Things like that.
It's just not nice.
It's true though.
Yeah, men are used to getting bullied.
Women aren't though.
You want us to lie to you?
I think we need to tell more women they're obese if they are.
You can tell the truth, but do it in not such a harsh way, because like Isis said, it could even cause suicide.
I mean, Isis, suicide?
Men actually commit suicide at a far higher rate than women do, and they're more successful.
What are you crying about now?
What's she crying about?
Bro, women are emotional as hell, bro.
What the fuck's she crying for?
Man, what the fuck?
You good?
What are you crying for?
I'm good.
It's okay, whatever it is.
Oh, because I said her hair was pink, probably.
Is that what it was?
Dude, what is going on here?
Bro, this is the most female nature podcast I've ever seen, bro.
This is taking too long, man.
Girls being dumb, crying out of nowhere.
Oh my god!
Like, running with their emotions.
Yo, this is why women shouldn't be in leadership roles.
I'll see what the hell's going on right now.
This is crazy.
What is going on?
This is female nature in 4K. I hope y'all are taking notes and, like, watching this and, like, learning, man.
It's not every woman.
I mean, you guys are more similar than you guys think you are, man.
I'm trying to tell y'all, man.
Like, we've interviewed 2,300 plus y'all now at this point, and women make the same nonsensical arguments based on feelings versus reality and girls before reels and all this other craziness.
I mean, right now you're saying, well, you shouldn't point out if a girl's obese.
Why not?
I think we need to tell women the truth more.
This is borderline mean, and you say you're demanding respect.
I saw very little to no respect.
I mean, respect is earned.
Well, I would argue that disrespect started first with a lot of the females on the panel, interrupting, not letting the points be made, etc.
And then when I make the point and give them a chance, they don't know what to say.
Well, they're defensive.
They're defensive because you are instigating.
Like, probably not even on purpose, but to them...
Chris, shut up, man.
You're probably instigating to that person.
And you don't have to go to that degree where you're just really hurting this person emotionally, just clowning on them.
Question, who controls their emotions?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Who's in control of their emotions?
You can't just control how you feel.
It just happens.
Yeah, you can.
Absolutely you can.
You can control how you present yourself.
You can control your composure.
But inside, you can't.
You really can't.
You can't control your emotions?
No.
You can't control how you feel.
You absolutely can control how you feel.
You control how you feel, and you control how you deal with your feelings, and controlling your feelings is a very important skill set to have.
Question for you.
On the news today, somebody died, right?
I'm sorry?
Someone today died on the news, right?
Possibly.
Did you cry?
No.
I didn't see, but you know, if the case was bad enough, I'm emotional, I'd cry.
But somebody died, right?
But you didn't cry.
I'm not going to cry over...
I've got millions of deaths.
No, no, no.
But why is that?
That's irrelevant.
No, it's not.
That's very irrelevant.
If your mother or father died, would you cry?
Of course, that's my family.
But what was that?
A choice of emotions.
So you can choose to turn off and on, right?
You wouldn't choose, or it's not even about choosing.
It just happens.
You feel what you feel.
No, no, but it's a choice of you making it happen or not.
That's the whole point I'm trying to make here.
No.
I really disagree with you on that.
Like, you can control your composure, control what you react, but you can't control how you feel.
Well, can a man control...hold on, can a man control his sex drive?
On some level, yes.
On some level.
But he has more testosterone that leads him to have a stronger sex drive than a woman.
So we have more estrogen that leads us to have a stronger pull towards our emotions.
Agreed.
Right.
So we can control them to an extent, but your lifestyle is saying to not control them.
Because men have to earn their ability to have sex and actually practice on their sex drive.
Women don't.
Yeah.
So that means you get to exercise it without any...
So then why can't we be more emotional if we tend to have more estrogen that leads us to that?
We never say that you can't.
We're just saying it's not a skill set to be emotional.
I have taken much responsibility right now.
Who is that guy in the back?
Like, what profound things do you have to say, my friend?
You have no profound things to say all night, all right?
Anyway, going back to what I was saying before.
Yeah, I mean, the girl's obese, man.
It's a fact.
I don't know what to tell you.
To conclude, my point being, just...
I know I can't tell you what to do, but keep in mind, it's hurtful.
You know, not everybody can control what they feel.
So remember, it's belittling.
They don't care.
They don't care.
However, thank you for having me on the show.
I genuinely think more women need to get...
Hard doses of reality like this.
If they're fat, they're obnoxious, they're annoying, they're rude or disrespectful like this girl, she might think, damn, maybe I need to check myself, telling niggas to suck my dick in, my nigga and all that.
That's not attractive.
Men don't find that attractive.
Like, guys that have some shit to lose or have a name, they're not going to tolerate that from girls like you, bro.
With that type of behavior, you're only going to attract loser, drug dealer, lower status men that will sit there and tolerate that shit.
But guys that have their shit together, they're not going to tolerate that from some 19-year-old.
They're not going to tolerate some obese chick talking crazy.
Instead of being all in your feelings, you guys should learn from this shit.
Damn!
Okay!
This is what guys like and what they don't like, because we're keeping it real on this pod.
Most guys lie to women to get laid.
We're telling you guys what men typically want or what they don't want in females.
But most girls choose to go with their feelings or I don't think we did talk a lot about what men do want from women at all on this podcast.
I don't think we bridged.
I don't think you didn't even give us the opportunity to have that conversation.
Some of your counterparts wouldn't stop saying idiotic statements.
And as a result, we said hours of the podcast.
We can only move as fast as the slowest component.
So we had a lot of slow girls on the panel today.
No offense.
Almost 30 minutes.
And here's the thing.
That's the reality.
A lot of attractive girls are dumb.
That's just how it is.
Stupid!
Why continue to bring on the same type of archetype then onto your podcast?
Oh, we don't.
Because most attractive women are stupid.
I mean, if I'm going to keep it a thousand, a lot of attractive girls are dumb because they don't have to develop themselves from a character standpoint or be inquisitive or learn more about the world or any of that stuff because women don't have to be interesting to attract opposite gender.
So, what's the point?
To show men out there that you need to be the fucking best version of yourself because you can easily have a 19-year-old that has accomplished shit disrespecting you on a platform as a guy with some status.
So then what are you telling them to go after?
Become the best version of themselves.
But then what type of woman are you...
Because at first you tell me that men are attracted to young, fertile, young, 23-year-old, potentially dumb women, but now that doesn't seem to be the case, does it?
Sexual attraction and relationship attraction are two different things.
Oh, see?
These are the conversations that we should have been having, right?
Like, okay, so then...
We covered this already, and we told you.
Can I also...
No.
No, Chris.
You were saying...
Go ahead.
You were saying...
No, I just, I want to have more of these conversations because you were saying that women are dumb at 23 years old and then when they get to understanding life, when they aren't as naive, then it's too late.
We'll call them dumb.
I did.
A lot of young attracted girls are dumb.
Well, I mean, lack critical thinking skills.
I'll say that.
I might be book smart or whatever, but they lack critical thinking skills.
Do you not think that that takes time and maturity and life lessons?
And do you not think that that takes time to develop as a human being?
Don't you think that all people have a maturity arc that they go through?
Well, I mean, a lot of women pride themselves on being more mature than men.
Well, the brains, the frontal lobe might develop a little bit more before that, but I wouldn't...
I don't know if a lot of women would say that.
I understand where you're coming from, but...
Well, women aren't critical thinkers a lot of times because they're not deductive problem-solvers like men are.
But the way that you talk about that is that you're better than women, but women bring other things to a relationship that we don't necessarily have to be the critical thinkers because you are the leaders.
That is potentially your job.
So then why do we have to win a debate against you?
There are so many other things that women bring to the table.
It's not about that.
It's just a show that women lack critical thinking skills.
But you're saying that we shouldn't have critical thinking skills, that you are the leader.
So if we out-thought you, and if we out-critical-thought you, then that wouldn't...
That's not what...
Yeah, this podcast exemplifies that.
That women lack critical thinking skills.
I'm not saying that they should be defeating us in debates or anything like that.
I'm just saying they typically don't think outside the box and don't think from a critical standpoint.
But if men are supposed to be the leaders and if men are to be the role models and that you say that we're supposed to look up to men, then you should be more of the critical thinker.
But then you're criticizing us for not being as good of critical thinkers.
No, no.
It's not necessarily in the context of this debate.
Yeah, I criticize it because they can't understand certain concepts.
Like, for example, I gave the millionaire analogy to her.
She had no clue what I was talking about.
But you're also 33 years old.
You've gone through quite a bit of life.
You have whatever type of education that you have.
You have 10 years on the girl.
So she isn't going to understand your points as much.
Like, if you're going to debate someone, bring someone up.
No, you just don't have a good argument, and that's what happens on this show.
You just then criticize people and make personal attacks when you don't have anything good to say, Myron.
I said they should lack critical thinking skills?
And then you said accountability.
What was the accountability?
What was that?
Whose fault is it that she can't understand the analogy?
The fact is, is that she is young.
Oh, there you go.
So I'm going to argue with a 10-year-old and I'm going to say, it's your accountability that you're dumb.
She's 18 years old.
She can go fight for the military right now and die.
She can go ahead and get imprisoned for a felony where she can do life, etc.
But you're telling me that she can't understand a simple analogy that I'm explaining that males and females are different when it comes to sexual market value because men must earn their value?
I said I disagreed.
I mean, I understood the analogy.
No, you definitely didn't understand the analogy because you're like, I don't get the relevance.
I don't understand.
That was the first thing you said.
I don't understand the relevance, the comparison of what you meant.
I mean, I understood it from the standing point you were saying it as, but that...
Okay, we'll move on.
Bro.
What about you?
This is one of the densest panels ever.
Holy.
All right.
Take us home, please.
Yeah, well, I'm not going to talk too long because a lot of wasted time tonight, but I appreciate the invite.
This is a cool experience.
I think you guys were very professional, just the way that this whole area is, the way it's all set up, the way you bring girls in.
I think it's...
I appreciate that.
I just wish there wasn't so much wasted time.
We could have talked more about stuff, but...
I agree.
Yeah, facts.
Yeah.
It's dope.
I enjoyed being on here.
I would ask questions, but I have no interest in wasting any more time and talking.
She's ready to go clubbing.
Bed sounds good right now.
Bed sounds good now.
I appreciate that.
My friend.
Don't go.
Shout out to Mike.
Shout out to Mike.
If most women are with you just for financial gain, why not remove all doubt and pay for play, especially if men lose in divorce slash child support?
That's your choice.
Ladies would prefer an average man that does not cheat on you or a high-value man that does not cheat on you.
Also, best podcast, Rare W. Chris.
Bro, why are you guys asking redundant questions?
Bro, most women would prefer to have a guy that will provide for them and they'll accept you cheating if you're high-value enough.
I'm telling y'all, man.
Oh, it came earlier?
Okay.
That girl keeps coming back with a different personality in disguise.
How does one...
No one not see that?
What do you mean?
He took one dollar.
Easy, guys.
Gotta ask the McQueen question for the Slowbro Turkey IQ bimbos.
If a man flies you out, do you think he flew you out because you're cool?
And y'all be surprised when a dude y'all barely, like, initiate.
Hey, love the podcast.
Can you interview raging this...
Dissidents from Canada.
You would be happy to interview him and hear the life experience.
Cheers.
Okay.
True or false, near totality of high value women marry prior to turning 20?
Okay.
I can't believe we live in a world where you can accuse someone of touching you when it never actually happened, bro.
That's scary, bro.
That's wild, bro.
Thank God, there's cameras.
Yeah.
FNF Changes Live.
I was able to raise my credit score to 770.
I'm 21.
I watch their money Mondays.
Now I'm in crypto.
Shout out to Miguel and Charlie and Amazon, KT Utzels, L-SIMS, Religious Hoes, or Ls.
Shout out to you, bro.
Guaranteed she fucked some guys before it came to her realization.
Ladies, the average man is 5'9 fat and only...
What was that?
Sorry?
No, I was just laughing.
Makes $40,000 to $50,000 per year.
Raise your hand if you're wet.
I'm telling y'all, man.
Yo, if the girls come on our podcast and disrespect us in 4K with tens of thousands of people watching, what the fuck do you think is going to happen to you?
Well...
This is for the blood clot Christian.
You can't preach the word of God and you're out here banging bad boys and not following the commandments.
Back in the day, you would die for this shit.
Christianity means shit.
Hypocrisy is crazy.
What they've been stating is facts.
Link is down below.
Oh yeah, I do have a bunch of stats that show this stuff if you guys give a shit, but I don't think women give a fuck about that stuff.
Check it out.
It's on YouTube.
It was from his previous super chat we just read just now.
From earlier.
Like, yo, the link is below.
It's on YouTube.
Check it out.
He's kind of being slick.
Oh, the studies and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's being slick to the ladies.
Bro, but we all know.
The girls don't know the fuck about none of the studies, man.
Yeah, he's just being slick to the ladies.
They just are going to argue, bro.
Go ahead.
So, ladies, this was a great show.
Good and bad.
Good and bad.
You made it to the very end.
Congrats.
And you know what?
It's being said.
Let's go the fuck off.
We'll catch you guys later.
Also, all the Franks are on Locals right now.
You guys can see the obese girl walk out of here.
Actually, three.
Two or three.
She's huge, man.
Monday.
Monday we have...
None I'm aware of.
Money Monday on Monday for y'all.
Yeah, we got some stuff in the works.
That's why Fresh left early on the Scout Raider joint.
We'll catch you guys in a bit.
Peace.
I ran so far away.
I just ran.
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