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June 30, 2023 - Fresh & Fit

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THIS Is How NATO's War On Russia Has FAILED w/ Scott Ritter

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	We are live.
	What's up guys?
	Welcome to the Freshman Podcast.
	We've got a special episode for you guys today.
	We're here with Scott Ritter.
	We've got a lot to talk about with geopolitics, the Russian-Ukraine war.
	Let's get into it.
	Let's go.
	Welcome back to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
	We are here with Scott Ritter.
	I'm really excited for this conversation, man.
	It's going to be a high IQ conversation.
	We're going to talk about geopolitics, the Russian Ukraine war, foreign policy.
	All that stuff is going to be talked about today.
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	My bad.
	There you go.
	Which is like, yo, well, don't friends don't stutter anymore, Chris.
	That's it.
	I had to mess up.
	There you go.
	That was only one day, nigga.
	Okay.
	Scott's like, what the fuck did I get myself into?
	What's going on?
	What's going on?
	He's like, damn it.
	Hey, guys, go check out my YouTube channel.
	I did the YWMLE review earlier this morning, but I had to get some sleep for this show, obviously.
	I didn't sleep.
	I did, like, all the streams, didn't, you know, went to the gym, then did another stream.
	So whatever.
	Go check it out.
	And then also...
	What I'll probably do for you guys, shout out to my guy Ryan Dawson.
	We're going to cover 9-11 with him tomorrow.
	I'll probably go ahead and drop NUMEC for you guys on FedReacts.
	It got approved!
	I'm like shocked.
	So yeah, I'll put that on there for y'all.
	It's going to talk about how a certain state that won't be named because we're on YouTube.
	Stole the nuclear bomb from the United States.
	We're talking about that and was involved in John F. Kennedy's death, which Scott definitely knows about.
	What are the crazy accusations?
	No, I'm just saying.
	I know you ain't talking about it, bro.
	You mentioned that yesterday on the show.
	I just sent the state.
	You said, oh, steal our technology.
	I did it to the girl.
	Oh, yeah.
	Stupid.
	From that homeland.
	Well, to be fair, though, the contact wasn't even there, so I feel like it wasn't important.
	You were like, bro, they steal our technology, blah, blah, blah, and you went in, whatever.
	Fuck all that.
	We got special guests now.
	Scott.
	We're happy to have you, Scott.
	I know who you are, but the audience might not know who you are.
	Can you please introduce yourself to the people, your background, what you used to do?
	Well, I call myself a child of the Cold War.
	My parents were career Air Force officers.
	My mom was a nurse.
	My dad was in aircraft maintenance.
	I spent 26 years serving our country, much of it overseas.
	I went to high school in four different places, or three, I'm sorry, three different places, Hawaii, Turkey, and Germany.
	I graduated I'm from Kaiserslautern American High School in 1979, enlisted in the U.S. Army so I could go off and kill communists.
	Went to college, majored in Russian history, got commissioned in the United States Marine Corps, became an intelligence officer.
	And in 1988, I was assigned to what's called the On-Site Inspection Agency, a Department of Defense activity created to implement the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty, which was signed in December of 1987 by Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev.
	This eliminated intermediate and short-range nuclear missiles.
	It's the first ever treaty to get rid of nuclear weapons.
	And I was the first inspector on the ground in the Soviet Union to do it.
	That's my claim to fame.
	I did that for two years and then went back to the Marine Corps.
	As a UN inspector for two years?
	No, no.
	This is American.
	Okay, okay.
	As a Marine Corps officer serving in the Department of Defense activity.
	I went back to the Marine Corps and right in time for Saddam Hussein to invade Iraq.
	And I ended up on General Norman Schwarzkopf's staff as an intelligence officer.
	Because of my experience with missiles, I got involved in the counter-SCUD campaign.
	I worked with Special Forces, American Delta Force, SEALs, British SAS, and others to try and interdict Iraqi SCUD missiles before they could be fired against Israel or the Or the Persian Gulf countries.
	The war ended.
	I had what they call a good war, meaning I didn't get killed and had a good reputation.
	But my time in the Marine Corps was over.
	I joined to kill communists.
	When I said that the first time, I wasn't joking.
	I joined because the evil empire was there and I wanted to close with and destroy the communist enemy through firepower maneuver.
	Cold War ended, so Union collapsed.
	It was over.
	So I left the Marine Corps only to get the phone call in August from the United Nations saying, you know, that line from the Godfather, every time I want to leave, they just reach in and they drag me back.
	And that's what happened.
	They called up and they said, nah, not so fast.
	We need you to come to the United Nations, set up an intelligence unit there to find where Iraq is hiding weapons and to get inspection teams on target.
	And I did that job for seven years.
	So you were involved in finding the weapons of mass destruction?
	Well, except that in the beginning they were weapons of mass destruction.
	I mean, what people don't realize is Iraq was overflowing with weapons of mass destruction.
	And when the The original teams were composed of honest to goodness You know, chemical weapons experts, biological weapons experts, nuclear missile guys.
	I'm none of that.
	I'm just a simple Marine.
	But the Iraqis lied.
	They declared less than half of their chemical weapons capability.
	They declared less than half of their missiles.
	They denied having a biological capability or a nuclear capability.
	And so we were in a quandary of, what do you do?
	So that's where I came in.
	I created an intelligence unit whose job was to find the hidden stuff.
	I worked with all the intelligence agencies in the world, the CIA, British MI6, Israeli Mossad, you name it, I worked with them.
	And then I helped gather that intelligence and turn it into What we call, you know, it's actionable intelligence, where on the ground we're going to go.
	And then I would lead the inspection teams into Iraq to find this stuff.
	And that's how we got rid of them.
	It wasn't that the Iraqis never had them.
	It's that people like me and the inspectors I work with did a damn good job in hunting them down and disposing of them.
	So Iraq actually did have weapons then?
	Absolutely.
	Contrary to popular belief.
	Because they always say, you know, we invaded for no reason.
	They didn't have any weapons of mass destruction.
	Well, they didn't have them when we invaded.
	That's what I'm trying to say, is that we, the inspectors, we got rid of them.
	We compelled the Iraqis to destroy them.
	We investigated.
	Prior to us coming in there.
	The problem was, and this is the kicker, I thought that my job was to get rid of weapons of mass destruction.
	Because that's what the United Nations resolution said our job was to do.
	Yeah.
	I didn't realize that my government wanted something different.
	They wanted Saddam Hussein gone and that they were using the inspectors not to get rid of the weapons, but to put pressure on Saddam to collect intelligence on Saddam so that Saddam could be assassinated or driven out of power.
	And so while I was a weapons inspector, I was actually fighting a war on two fronts.
	I would lead inspection teams into Iraq and find evidence that they are being disarmed.
	Then I would come back to the United States and have to go to war against the CIA, who were saying, no, we don't want this.
	Give you an example.
	You were literally caught right in the middle.
	Right in the middle.
	Ping pong, ping pong, ping pong.
	So to give you an example, I did a series of inspections to uncover Iraq's ballistic missiles.
	And I succeeded.
	We...
	We found them.
	The Iraqis had to give them up.
	We disposed of them.
	And I went back and I briefed the director of the CIA. I said, they're all gone.
	And he said, well, no, we have some intelligence that they're hiding some underground.
	I was like, well, that's funny because we've accounted for them all.
	He said, no, they're underground.
	So I had to do another inspection.
	This one I called his bluff.
	I said, well, if they're underground, I'm going to need ground penetrating radar.
	He said, okay.
	And I said, it's going to have to be airborne because we have to get there fast before the Iraqis respond.
	He said, okay.
	So $12.5 million later, we got ground penetrating radar made especially for us, mounted on helicopters that I took into Iraq to look for the buried missiles, which didn't exist.
	So now we come back and we report again to the CIA and say, they're all gone.
	They're finished.
	The CIA came back and said, yeah, nice try.
	But our number now is that they have between 12 and 20.
	And that number will never change, no matter what you do.
	Wow!
	And that number didn't change.
	When we invaded Iraq in 2003, the CIA was still claiming that they had 12 and 20.
	Now, here's the deal.
	Wow!
	Not only that, but for instance...
	We weren't just looking for the weapons, but we were also trying to find out what happened to the weapons, because the Iraqis destroyed a lot of weapons, blew them up, and we were trying to forensically reconstruct this.
	So I'm on a document search, etc.
	I need to investigate presidential security of Saddam Hussein, because they were involved in this.
	And I did.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I went to their headquarters.
	We're talking showing up and getting guns put in our face, people.
	Of course.
	And we're like, no, we're not backing down.
	We're going to do this.
	When I led teams into Iraq, I always had some Delta Force guys embedded in the team, and they had a Delta Force squadron standing by to rescue us, because we always assumed we were going to be taking hostage.
	Super high risk, yeah.
	Yeah, so this isn't like, you know, geeky city.
	This is the real deal.
	Of course.
	And so we're doing this, we're doing this, doing this.
	I had guys go in, and we intercepted Saddam's security's Communications.
	Encrypted communications.
	I went to Israel, got them to break the code and read us the stuff.
	So we're getting close to finding the truth.
	And the U.S. says, no, we don't want the truth.
	And they shut my operation down.
	And that's when I resigned.
	The day I resigned, I left in August of 1998.
	For the audience, this is well before 9-11.
	This is well before we invaded Iraq in 2003.
	So you're saying they were disarmed since the late 90s?
	They were disarmed since probably 1995, 1996.
	What a fucking bombshell, dude.
	So now I get called into the CI. And this is a guy, I can say his name now because it's...
	Declassified, probably?
	Larry Sanchez.
	And Larry Sanchez...
	From 1994 until 1998 was the senior liaison of the CIA with the inspection teams.
	And he and I had a pretty good working relationship.
	We trusted each other.
	And so he called me and he said, hey, before you resign, somebody in the National Security Council wants to talk to you because they want to talk you out of it.
	I said, okay, I'll take the call.
	So I talked to the guy.
	And they basically said, if you resign, you'll destroy the inspections.
	You have to stay.
	And I said, you're destroying the inspections.
	The inspections are about doing what the Security Council of the United Nations tells them to do, not what the United States says behind the scenes.
	Our job is to disarm.
	You have to let me finish the job or I can't stay on.
	He said, no, well, we're not going to change the way we're doing business.
	So I left.
	I hung up.
	Larry Sanchez turned to me.
	What's the rating of the show?
	What can I say?
	No, you're good.
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	He turned to me and he said, Scott, we're friends.
	We've been friends for a long time.
	But if you turn in that letter of resignation, I can never talk to you again.
	He said, not only that, the FBI is going to fuck you in the ass.
	The FBI is going to hunt you down.
	They're going to ruin your life.
	They're going to ruin your family's life.
	They're going to make your life a living hell.
	He said, so think twice about it.
	And I said, well, You want me to back down because of that?
	My job is to defend the truth.
	I'm doing the right thing.
	I'm speaking out for truth.
	And he said, don't say I didn't warn you.
	And the FBI's been trying to fuck me in the ass ever since.
	But I feel like I had a duty to go out and speak out because...
	We ended up going to war in Iraq over weapons of mass destruction.
	And the point is, I'm trying to tell you, as of 1998, I was trying to make the case that if you're going to say they have weapons of mass destruction, then you have to let me do my job.
	But you can't use my job to go to war.
	You have to use my job to disarm.
	And if you're not going to let me disarm, then I can't be part of this mission.
	And then later on, when they kept pushing this stuff, You know, I had to tell the truth.
	I said, look, the United States isn't here to disarm Iraq.
	They're here to get rid of Saddam Hussein, that there aren't weapons of mass destruction.
	We got rid of the weapons of mass destruction.
	Whatever we don't have is so small, so minuscule, so dated.
	To give you an example...
	There's certain, you know, biological weapons.
	Yeah.
	Remember Colin Powell putting up that white vial?
	Yes.
	This can kill the world.
	Yes.
	Well, it's horseshit.
	Why?
	Because, first of all, the Iraqis never produced dry-powdered anthrax.
	What they made was wet sludge, basically a slurry.
	Now, here's the interesting thing.
	They have growth media that they put in petri dishes, biological production scale, produce it up, and you get this sludge.
	And this is the same anthrax that hit us after 9-11, right?
	No, no.
	The anthrax that hit us after 9-11 was the white powder.
	Oh, okay.
	That's what Colin Powell was talking about.
	Okay.
	This stuff is basically mud.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And they put the mud in a warhead.
	And they said, that's a biological warhead.
	That's a biological weapon.
	I said, that's not.
	That's sludge in a metal canister.
	You fire it.
	The only way it's going to kill you is if it hits you in the head.
	Because if it lands next to you on the ground and bursts open, the sludge is just going to go into the ground.
	Unless you get on your hands and knees and eat it, you're not going to die.
	Okay.
	So the Iraqis never had a real biological weapons program, but that sludge there only has a limited shelf life.
	So let's say they hid some of it from us in 1991.
	By 1995, it's no good.
	It's turned into just pure mud.
	And we know they didn't produce any more.
	Has a shelf life?
	Absolute shelf life.
	Same thing with the chemical weapons.
	So in 1998, when they're saying, Iraq has this, Iraq has that, we're going...
	Well, we can't prove that they destroyed everything.
	We can prove they destroyed 97%.
	But the stuff that we can't find, I can guarantee you by science that it's useless.
	It's meaningless.
	So why are we treating it as if it's a real weapon?
	Because the Security Council says 100%.
	Okay, I would accept that if you would accept that when we find 100%, like we did with the missiles...
	You would lift the sanctions on Iraq and bring them back in, as the deal is.
	Because that was the whole purpose of why they even allowed you guys to come in there was to lift the sanctions so they can be a part of the economy and make money and not be broke and poor.
	And yet we had repeated secretaries of state, starting with James Baker in 1992, going on to Madeleine Albright, saying that even if Iraq complies with its obligation to disarm, economic sanctions will never be lifted until Saddam Hussein is removed from power.
	It was always a setup.
	It was always a scam.
	Why was the U.S.? Because we got a lot of guys here that might be younger.
	They might not even remember or know who Saddam Hussein is.
	Why was the U.S. so hell-bent on getting him out of power?
	Well, there was, once upon a time, Saddam was our friend.
	In fact, if you go back and you Google Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein...
	Didn't he get a key to the city of Detroit?
	I don't know about that.
	Something like that?
	Well, Donald Rumsfeld went there and shook his hand, and we gave Saddam Hussein billion-dollar loans so he could buy...
	Weapons of mass destruction and other things.
	You know, it's funny how we condemn him for using chemical weapons, but I used to debrief a defector named Wafeek Samurai.
	He was the head of Iraqi intelligence, and he would tell me stories about how American specialists from the defense intelligence agency and the CIA would come to Baghdad And show him the best ways to use chemical weapons in their offenses against the Iranians, especially the Al-Faul offensive at the end.
	Al-Faul's a peninsula at the end of the Shatel Arab waterway that the Iranians had crossed over and dug in on.
	And the Iraqis broke their back by using chemical weapons.
	We're the ones that gave them the satellite imagery that showed the Iranian force disposition.
	So we helped them use chemical weapons.
	Some people say that we gave them the money to help them buy the precursors that made the chemical weapons.
	And then we turn around and condemn them for having chemical weapons.
	Now, I'm not saying that Saddam should have them.
	I'm just saying how hypocritical can we be.
	But what happened is, at the end of the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was sort of emboldened.
	They felt like they had stood up to Iran and indeed Israel and the rest of the world.
	And so they were filling their oats.
	And so...
	What they said is that their weapons of mass destruction programs weren't just to deter Iranian aggression.
	They said it's to deter Israeli aggression.
	And that's when the Americans went, oh, you can't say that.
	You're not allowed to do that.
	And when Israel in the summer of 1990 said they were threatening to hit the Iranian nuclear program, Obama, the Iraqis said, if you do that, we'll burn half of Israel with our chemical weapons.
	Hmm.
	That's our deterrence.
	And that's when America went, we got a problem here.
	Then Saddam invades Kuwait and...
	Put Saudi Arabia in a tough spot.
	Put Saudi Arabia in a tough spot.
	Put the world oil community.
	But let's talk about why he invaded Kuwait.
	Because everybody's just like, well, Saddam's a brutal aggressor.
	He invaded Kuwait.
	You see, Kuwait, during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war, was doing slant drilling.
	That means you set up a drill rig in Kuwaiti soil, and you drill across the border into the oil reservoir on Iraq's side, and they're stealing billions of dollars worth of Iraqi oil.
	Now, the Iraqis let them do it because they're at war.
	Then the Kuwaitis turned around and they loaned Iraq $20 billion.
	Wait, so Iraq let Kuwait do it?
	Well, they were at war, so they were like— Oh, they didn't have the time to deal with it.
	Yeah, we're not going to deal with this now.
	Yeah, okay, we're fighting now.
	But then after war, what they told the Kuwaitis is, we got all the—it's called the London Group of Banks who were coming at us for these loans.
	But you're stealing our oil and dumping it on the economy— On the market, and you're depressing the price of oil down to $14 a barrel, and now we can't make enough money to pay off the loans.
	We need you to stop doing this.
	This is economic warfare.
	And America told the Kuwaitis, no, no, no, keep going, keep going.
	Keep going.
	So they kept going.
	The Iraqi said, you guys don't seem to understand.
	They called together the Arab League in July of 1990.
	And they said, guys, this is serious.
	If they keep doing this, we'll have no choice but to invade them.
	Tell them to stop.
	Arab League said nothing.
	So, in August...
	Arab League, what countries?
	I'm assuming all the Arab-speaking countries?
	Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan...
	Okay.
	Algeria, the whole thing.
	So, the Iraqis go into Kuwait in August of 1990.
	They said, to hell with you, we're finishing this thing.
	But again, people say Saddam just decided to wake up one morning and invade Kuwait.
	That's not how it was.
	But now he invades Kuwait.
	And George Herbert Walker Bush, W's father, gets out and when he gets out, he's trying to explain to the American people why we have to get ready to go to war.
	And he said, it's about oil.
	And the American people went, we ain't buying that oil war.
	We're not doing it.
	Yeah.
	And he went, oops, we can't talk about oil anymore.
	Let's talk about something else, something else.
	So that's when they started bringing in the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter, who testified before Congress claiming that she saw Iraqi soldiers ripping Kuwaiti children out of their incubators and killing them.
	All a lie.
	All a lie.
	100% lies.
	We just started creating the image of the evil.
	Now, I'm not saying Saddam's a good guy.
	I'm just saying that...
	We had a PR campaign.
	Just remember, as bad as he was, he was shaking Donald Rumsfeld's hand, and he was considered the best friend of America in the mid-1980s.
	Suddenly, in 1990, we had to turn him into, and this is what happened.
	In a fundraiser, I believe, in Dallas, Texas, George Herbert Walker Bush called Saddam Hussein the Middle East equivalent of Adolf Hitler, who must have Nuremberg-like retribution, which means now that you called him Hitler, you have to get rid of him.
	How can you let Hitler live?
	And you have to bring him into trial.
	So now we go to war, and And I was in that war.
	We fought it.
	And I can tell you, we had a plan to get rid of Saddam.
	I can also tell you here, I was tasked, there was a week of my time in the war where my job was to assassinate Saddam Hussein.
	I was given targets.
	I had to verify the targets and then turn them over to the Air Force, and we were dropping bombs on targets to kill Saddam.
	We were actively going after the guy.
	But When the war ended, it ended because...
	What year did it end?
	It ended in late February of 91.
	It was a very short war.
	It started on January 17th of 91, ended on February 29th or 28th, around there.
	But it ended because basically...
	Did he pull out of Kuwait?
	Well, he started retreating.
	And what do you do when you have a column of enemy equipment on a highway?
	You bomb the lead vehicle, you bomb the rear vehicle, so the column can't move, and then you kill everything in between.
	And from a military perspective, it's beautiful, baby.
	It's beautiful, because that's what we wanted to do.
	That's what war is all about.
	But unfortunately, CNN now is filming this, and it became bad TV. They're calling it the highway of death.
	We're murdering the Iraqis.
	Well, it's war.
	Murder away.
	I mean, these are the guys that raped Kuwait, occupied Kuwait.
	All those vehicles were full of stolen goods they were taking out of Kuwait.
	No sympathy for the men in that column.
	Kill them all.
	But we stopped.
	Mm-hmm.
	When the war started, when I opened up, when I got the op order on day one, I opened it up, it said that the strategic objective, the center of gravity, was Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard.
	About six divisions that he had there, elite forces that propped him up, kept him in.
	We said, we must destroy the Republican Guard so that Saddam Hussein collapses.
	Because he's Adolf Hitler, he has to collapse.
	Of course.
	But because of the highway of death, The rest of the battle, bringing the pincers in, surrounding the Republican Guard, we were literally 36 hours away from killing them all.
	30-40 thousand.
	And believe me, I wanted them all dead.
	That's what needed to happen.
	But Colin Powell went, no, this is bad TV, bad imagery.
	We stopped.
	Right before we finished the job.
	Oh, wow.
	And those divisions went away and suppressed the Kurdish uprising in the North, the Shi uprising in the South, and they kept Saddam Hussein in power.
	So we had a chance to finish.
	To get rid of them back in the 90s.
	But we didn't.
	So now...
	Fast forward.
	Now we have a situation where George Herbert Walker Bush, who called Saddam Hussein Hitler, the war ends and Hitler's still alive.
	So now the question is, how do we do this?
	So the CIA came in and briefed.
	They said...
	Saddam's in a very weak position right now.
	His military has just been destroyed.
	His economy is in tatters.
	The only thing he has going for him is these weapons of mass destruction.
	So what we need to do is get rid of them and then Saddam will collapse.
	We want Saddam gone.
	So they created the weapons inspectors to go in to put at risk the third pillar of power, the weapons of mass destruction.
	But there was no endgame.
	They created us, but they never expected us to finish the job.
	Our job was to go in and go through the motions of challenging the weapons of mass destruction.
	Then six months later, Saddam was supposed to go bye-bye.
	Six months goes by and he's still there.
	And now he's challenging the inspectors.
	And that's when I came in.
	We had to change the game six months later because Saddam wasn't going anywhere.
	And believe me, while I was a weapons inspector, I'll give you two instances.
	In the summer of 1996, I carried out an inspection of, we believe that they were hiding documents and material in special Republican Guard units around Baghdad International Airport, because that's sort of a fortified zone.
	And so what we want, we also believe that they would evacuate them up to Tikrit, which is Saddam Hussein's birthplace, where he had other palaces.
	So if we stress them, they would retreat to Tikrit.
	So we put in place systems to detect this movement.
	And we're going in to surround it and all this stuff.
	And I'm building this big inspection team to go in.
	And I told you I had a close relationship with the CIA. We had about a dozen CIA guys on our team, paramilitary guys, who are logistics and communications guys.
	What I didn't realize is that they had another job.
	There was a coup being plotted, built around my inspection.
	My team was supposed to come in.
	And surround Special Republican Guard facilities, freeze them in place, and then create an incident.
	And as we're pulled out, cruise missiles would come in and destroy these facilities.
	There was one unit, the 3rd Battalion of the Special Republican Guard that I wanted to inspect, but it was sort of outside the Palisade.
	The CIA said, don't worry about that unit.
	It's okay, but it's not a big deal.
	I said, but we said we're going to inspect them all.
	We have to inspect this one.
	Don't worry about it.
	Well, the reason why is that was their unit.
	They had bought the officers.
	That was the unit that was going to go kill Saddam.
	But the problem is the Iraqis have good intelligence and they broke into the CIA plot and they knew everything.
	And when the time came, instead of a coup taking place, they pulled the guys out, they popped them all in the head, then they called up the CIA guy on their own satellite communication system and said, it's all over, guys.
	Goodbye.
	And they hung up.
	Now, that's cool if you're an Iraqi.
	It's bad if you're a CIA. But imagine me as an inspector being in the middle of this.
	And the Iraqis are looking at me going...
	What were you doing?
	I said, I didn't know anything about it.
	They said, uh-huh, you're an American.
	You're an intelligence officer.
	These guys work for you.
	Because they don't know the difference between a Marine and the CIA. They don't know the difference.
	They don't know the difference.
	And an American is an American.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And again, just so people understand, I'm as American as you get.
	Of course.
	You won't meet a more patriotic person than me.
	But when I joined the weapons inspection team, I went down to Washington, D.C., and I demanded a meeting at the State Department with the State Department, the CIA, the Defense Department, all the players.
	Yeah.
	And I said, okay, I'm going to come in and I'm going to create this intelligence unit.
	I need to know the rule of the game.
	I need to know the rules.
	Is this a wink, wink, nod, nod thing?
	Meaning that we're going to do something, but really something else is happening?
	You have to tell me up front.
	That's crazy.
	They didn't tell you.
	No.
	What they said is, no, no, no.
	We insist that you comply with Security Council resolutions.
	You're going to build a unit and you work for the executive chairman.
	You work for the United Nations.
	And I said, you guys understand.
	That once you tell me this, that's what I'm going to do.
	Yeah.
	That's my mission.
	They said, that's what we want you to do.
	So is that normal where, like, for example, you have a plan of action that they tell you to do, and then they bring in outside people to make this other alternate plan.
	Is that normal to happen?
	For the CIA, it's normal.
	Yeah.
	What I learned about the CIA, with all due respect to all the CIA guys listening, you know what I'm saying is true.
	They lie, they cheat, they steal.
	That's what they do for a living.
	They can't be trusted.
	If you're in the CIA and you got the secret Dakota ring, then you're part of the team.
	But if you're outside the CIA, even if you're an American, even if you're a loyal American, even if you're a loyal American who's gone to war for his country, you're not part of the team.
	And the CIA spent the next, that meeting took place in October of 1991.
	And I spent the next seven years beating my head against the war going to war against the CIA for this delay.
	The last story I'll tell you, the Iraqis kicked me out, my inspection team out in January of 1998, accused me of being a CIA officer.
	The whole works.
	And they said, we're not going to work with Ritter ever again because he's evil.
	Yeah.
	Now, we can't allow that to happen because that means the Iraqis are dictating who gets to be on inspection teams.
	So there's a big rigmarole, the challenge, and I was tasked with leading an inspection team back in to challenge the Iraqis.
	The Iraqis had agreed to certain rules and stuff.
	A challenge inspection.
	I went to the White House and I briefed the White House on the inspection concept of operations.
	I went to the State Department, briefed that.
	We briefed it to the Pentagon.
	And finally...
	We're at the U.S. mission in New York, where Ambassador Bill Richardson's at.
	He's the head ambassador.
	He's there.
	His deputy's there.
	The CIA's there.
	My boss, Richard Butler, is there.
	Charles Dolfer's there, and I'm there.
	And basically, Richard Butler, a UN official, gets up with a whiteboard, and he starts drawing dates on it.
	He goes, okay, Ritter, you've got to go in on this date.
	And then you have to create a crisis here.
	And the crisis was I had to inspect the Iraqi Ministry of Defense.
	Now, the Iraqis had told us that if we ever tried to inspect the Ministry of Defense, that was a red line, it would mean war.
	And I said, why are we inspecting the Ministry of Defense?
	That's not on my target list.
	They said, well, the Americans have put it on the target list.
	I said, why?
	What's the arms control reason?
	We believe that they're hiding documents related to weapons of mass destruction.
	I said, but you know, it's war.
	They said, do your job.
	I said, okay, I'll do my job.
	But I said, it's strange that we're sitting there coordinating our inspection timeline with America's ability to go to war.
	You're telling me I have to create a crisis here, so America can bomb in here.
	And they're all saying, well, yes.
	And I said, okay, I'm going to go in and I'm going to have the inspection on that date.
	That's my job.
	They said...
	Good.
	So I took my team in.
	We show up at the Ministry of Defense, and the guns come out, the whole thing.
	They're not going to let us in.
	It's high tension.
	And the Iraqis come over.
	They said, what are you doing?
	And I said, I got to inspect.
	They said, you can't.
	This is the Ministry of Defense.
	This is war.
	I said, you got to let me in.
	They said, well, we aren't going to let you in.
	I said, guys, let me just be very blunt with you.
	If you don't let me in, the missiles are going to blow this place up.
	They're going to kill you.
	Everybody I'm talking to is going to be dead.
	You may kidnap me.
	I may die.
	It doesn't matter.
	If you let me in, I can promise you that I'm going to do my job.
	You know me.
	If you have weapons of mass destruction stuff in there, I'm going to find it.
	If I find it, you're screwed.
	But if you don't have it, you also know me.
	I will walk away.
	I'm not here to spy on you, but you got to let me in.
	They went back to Tariq Aziz.
	They went back to Saddam Hussein.
	She's with her French counterpart and she's bragging.
	Hey, hey, hey, we got the missiles in bow, baby.
	We're going to get the war we want.
	The French are going, how do you know?
	We got it fixed.
	We got our inside man.
	He's going to make it happen.
	That was me.
	Yeah.
	And the Iraqis came back and they said, OK, Ritter, we'll let you in.
	Oh, shit.
	And I got to take my team in.
	We spent 16 hours in the Ministry of Defense going through everything.
	We didn't find anything related to weapons mass destruction, and we left.
	Damn.
	There was no war.
	The Americans are so pissed off at me.
	I was going to say, did you get...
	Well, no, that was in March of 1998.
	Yeah.
	And like I told you, by August 1998, they had shut my program down.
	That's why I resigned, because they weren't letting me do my job anymore.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	There's a saying that people follow, certain higher-up people follow, where it says, out of chaos comes order.
	Is that a thing you think Americans use to their advantage?
	Chaos comes order?
	I think Americans create chaos so that they can dictate an outcome.
	Right.
	Yeah, because it's easier, you know, first of all, most humans are rational players.
	So if you sit down with people and say, hey, look, the solution I'm offering is we're going to put cruise missiles in on the site, kill a whole bunch of people and pick up the pieces, they go, you're a madman.
	But now if I create chaos, if I create an incident, if I make it look like there is no other choice, then that's the option.
	And that's the American way of doing business.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I didn't want to interrupt you while you were telling that story.
	But just to bring it back full circle, because I asked originally, why did they want Saddam so bad?
	And it seems to me everything was all good in the 80s.
	It wasn't until he threatened to attack Israel that we said, no, we need this guy gone.
	Well, he was a political problem.
	George Herbert Walker Bush compared him to Adolf Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Okay, here's some other news.
	But that was after he made that threat, right?
	Against Israel, correct.
	It was all about Israel.
	But here's the deal.
	George Herbert Walker Bush lost his re-election bid.
	And Slick Willy won the election.
	And Slick Willy's coming in.
	Y'all know who Slick Willy is?
	I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
	So Slick Willy's going to be the president.
	Slick Willy, that's the first I've heard that shit.
	I'm in Baghdad.
	And we're called into the oil minister's office, who's also one of the...
	He was a general who helped build all the weapons of mass destruction.
	And I'm coming in to try and make a point about our inspection, because it was always me telling them, you have to do this.
	This is what the law says.
	And they're pushing back saying, you know, you're trying to kill Iraqi children.
	There's a screaming matches.
	So I'm coming back in and we're...
	You got to let us in.
	We got to do the job.
	And he's looking at me going...
	You can play Mr.
	Colonial Master all you want.
	Your days are numbered.
	I said, what are you talking about?
	He said, we got guys talking with Clinton's guys, and it's going to be okay.
	When Bill Clinton becomes president, we're going to make good.
	America's going to come in.
	They're going to develop our oil.
	The sanctions are going to be lifted, and you guys are going to be no more.
	So go ahead and be big now, but it's over.
	It's over.
	It's finished.
	Amir Rashid was the guy's name.
	And we're looking at each other going, Wow.
	The Clinton guys are talking to the Iraqis.
	That's amazing.
	Well, what happened after that?
	I don't think people understand.
	George Herbert Walker Bush's last day in office on Inauguration Day, Bill Clinton's getting sworn in.
	You know what happened that day besides an inauguration?
	What?
	We bombed Iraq.
	Oh.
	We bombed Iraq.
	We started a war.
	And then when that didn't break up events, even after that, when Bill Clinton said, that's okay, we'll work through this.
	Yeah.
	But suddenly there was an assassination attempt.
	The Iraqis were going to kill them.
	The Kuwaitis had uncovered this assassination team.
	The problem is the explosives that they uncovered.
	Yeah, they were Iraqi explosives, but the batch number was related to explosives that were brought in in August and left behind.
	Oh, shit.
	So they're American explosives.
	They're Kuwaiti explosives.
	The Kuwaitis cooked us up.
	All the guys that they confessed, you know, they got their confessions and the FBI came in and the guys are going, yeah, but they tortured us.
	Now you're an FBI officer.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	You can't take it.
	I can't take it.
	I can't do this.
	But it doesn't matter.
	The CIA came to Bill Clinton and said...
	You can't allow the Iraqis to think they can assassinate an American president.
	You have to do something.
	And so in June, he fired cruise missiles at the Iraqi intelligence headquarters.
	And that ended We're good to go.
	Getting rid of Saddam Hussein wasn't about how evil Saddam was.
	He was a political liability to American presidents.
	His continued survival was an embarrassment to George Herbert Walker Bush, then Bill Clinton, and then W. Remember, W. That man tried to kill my father.
	That's why we want the war, ladies and gentlemen.
	That's it in a nutshell.
	It wasn't about weapons of mass destruction.
	It's that George W. Bush had a hard-on for Saddam because he believes Saddam tried to kill his father, even though that was a made-up assassination attempt.
	By the Kuwaitis.
	By the Kuwaitis.
	When, after the war, during time, I've inspected the Iraqi intelligence headquarters.
	Yeah.
	I've looked through their files.
	There was nothing.
	After the war, when we captured the headquarters and all the Iraqi intelligence officers and interrogated them, you'd think that if we found proof of this assassination attempt, it'd be front page news.
	Have you heard anything about it?
	Why not?
	Because it never happened.
	It was made up.
	Holy shit, man.
	Guys, Scott Rudder.
	I mean, you got someone who was actually there inspecting the weapons in Iraq, like, bro.
	But the fact that he found nothing there, and he still went ahead and did what he did, just says a lot about America, man.
	Damn!
	Wow.
	Damn, bro.
	Well, not just that.
	Remember, this war cost several thousand American lives.
	Yeah.
	And hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, millions of Iraqis displaced.
	You know, I'm not...
	You know, like I said, I'm a Marine, and war is war.
	You want to go to war against me, you're going to die.
	I mean, not anymore.
	I'm 61 years old, so I'm not going to kill too much anymore.
	How many of your buddies died during that time?
	Actually, I was very fortunate.
	I've only had a handful of people die over time.
	But during the actual Gulf War, I say only, but about 150 Americans lost their lives at the time, and none of them were—I can't say none of them.
	There was a helicopter that went down that had some people on there.
	But, you know, no, we escaped.
	It's not like this current war, I mean, where thousands of people died.
	But remember, I just want Americans to reflect on this.
	Every American life lost in Iraq— It's not because of the Iraqis or Al-Qaeda or ISIS. I have to tell you this.
	When Saddam Hussein was in power, there was no Al-Qaeda or ISIS in Iraq.
	Yeah, that's true.
	They'll never admit that, yeah.
	And Saddam and Osama hated each other.
	100%.
	I don't understand how we drew that connection after 9-11.
	We made it up.
	We made it up out of thin air.
	But my point is this war didn't need to be fought.
	Saddam was willing to do whatever it was necessary to make good with America.
	He proved it with Bill Clinton.
	He was still willing to do it leading up to this war.
	We went to war on a lie because an American president got his feelings hurt because a lie was told to him about an attempted assassination against his father.
	The United States has a lot of blood on its hands.
	And people need to, I mean, we need to just wake up and take responsibility for this at some point in time.
	Because if we don't, if we forgive that, then it sort of explains why everything we do today, and I think we're probably going to get into Ukraine eventually.
	Everything we do today is predicated on the same pattern of behavior.
	The same pattern that was exhibited by the United States and Iraq, the lies, the distortions, etc., is what happened in Ukraine.
	Nothing you're being told about Ukraine today is the truth, just like nothing you were told about Iraq was the truth back then.
	Welcome to the news, man.
	Holy shit, bro.
	You are fake news.
	At least now, right, with people being able to have their own platforms, independent media, you can kind of combat the BS with the Russia-Ukraine stuff.
	But back in the 90s, that was it.
	You had Fox News, CNN. What they told you is what it was.
	And I think that's how they were able to so easily go to war back in the early 2000s because after 9-11 happened, it was a sensitive moment.
	Everyone was patriotic.
	They're like, yeah, we got to go war on terror, war on terror.
	And then we're able to, like, lie to everybody and say, yeah...
	Osama is connected to Saddam when in reality, Osama wanted to go to war with Saddam when he invaded Kuwait because people don't know.
	It amazes me how people don't know this.
	Osama is a Saudi, guys.
	Well, not by lineage, but he's Saudi Arabian.
	And when he invaded Kuwait...
	He wanted to fight for the royal family, but they said, no, we have the Americans.
	And then Osama took that as an insult because he's like, why do we have infidels defending a Muslim land, blah, blah, blah.
	And then he talked poorly about the Saudi government, and then they basically ostracized him and sent his ass to Sudan and took his citizenship away.
	During the war, a little war story, I was attached to a special operations command that's part of a central command.
	A guy named Jesse Johnson ran it.
	A brave guy.
	He was involved in Desert One and all this stuff.
	But he called me and he had a problem.
	He said, the Saudis have approached us and they've got a whole bunch of these Mujahideen from Afghanistan in a camp.
	And they're asking us if we can do anything with them.
	You want to tell the people real quick?
	Because they might not know who Mujahideen is.
	The Mujahideen are the Saudi freedom fighters.
	Basically, in 1979, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan.
	And then the CIA, working with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, put together a covert action to recruit jihadists or Muslims who went on jihad against the Soviet Union to fight against the Soviet Union.
	Osama bin Laden was one of the Saudis who funded it, built camps, etc.
	They don't talk about that in history class.
	They won't talk about that.
	So it was a whole bunch of Saudis that went to Pakistan, that went into Afghanistan.
	And then when the fighting ended, When Iraq invaded Kuwait, they came to Saudi Arabia and said, just like you said, they said, hey, let us defend this.
	And the Saudis were saying, no, no, no, no.
	So now the Saudis went, what do we do with this guy?
	So Jesse Johnson comes to me and he goes...
	What should we do with these guys?
	And I said, you want the truth?
	He said, yeah.
	I said, kill them.
	Kill them all.
	Right now.
	Right now.
	Surround them and kill them all.
	Every single one of them.
	He said, well, we can't do that.
	And I said, well, then...
	Paid them money.
	The CIA funded them.
	I said, let's just...
	I said, you can't integrate them.
	You can't empower them.
	You're going to have to ignore them.
	But I said, somebody's going to have to have a plan for these guys when this war is done.
	Because by ignoring them, we're going to, excuse my language, piss them off.
	Yeah.
	Well, we ignored them.
	We pissed them off.
	And the rest is history.
	Wow.
	And then the Mujahideen ended up being what you guys know now as Al-Qaeda.
	And we funded them directly to fight the Soviets in the 1980s, Bill.
	Like, yo, it's crazy.
	Like, when you actually look this stuff up, declassified documents, and you search on the internet, it's all there.
	It's all public information.
	But, you know, people don't want to know.
	People don't want to teach it.
	My thing is, I agree.
	You don't want to know the truth.
	But how can we ever stop it?
	How do you ever, like, combat this?
	Like, just...
	Truth.
	Yeah.
	Truth.
	I mean, here's the hard part, you know.
	American citizens have to understand that the way this country is built, and I know people are going to come back and say, you're so naive, Scott, and all that.
	Maybe.
	But if you, you know, again, just read the documents.
	We the people of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union.
	That's the Constitution.
	We the people.
	We're the power.
	You know, people keep saying that elections are cooked, elections are meaningless and all that.
	They're cooked because we let them become cooked.
	They're cooked because we've allowed political parties to come in and take over the responsibility.
	I've got to ask you about Trump, too.
	We're going to talk about the Trump situation.
	Being a good citizen is hard work.
	I'll give you another short story just to underscore this.
	During the build-up to the Iraq War, I was on TV a lot getting beat up because I was trying to tell the truth.
	It didn't matter that we're talking about Iraqi weapons and mass destruction, and I was the guy who ran intelligence for it.
	So you weren't running on Fox News and stuff?
	I was on Fox News, CNN, the whole thing.
	But every time I'd come on, they'd have like five guys against me.
	Right.
	Or I'd speak, and then they'd bring in.
	And these guys knew nothing about WMD. They were literally, you know, Clifford Mays, a political guy, this, that.
	But they were like, no!
	Never stepped a foot in fucking Iraq.
	Not at all.
	And I'm the guy who did the job.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And they're like, well, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
	I'm the guy that did the job.
	He doesn't know what he's talking about.
	So, anyways, we're going in and these are good friends of mine.
	We play golf and all this stuff.
	I've known them forever.
	And on Monday nights, we used to go out and watch Monday Night Football, get wings, get beer, and sit there and talk.
	And, you know, I didn't want to get too political because these are my friends.
	But I was just like, guys, what...
	What's up?
	What's going on?
	They said, come on, Scott, it's not fair.
	They said, you lived this.
	This was your life.
	You got paid to know this stuff.
	This is your job 24-7.
	Man, we got real lives.
	You know, I get up in the morning.
	I got to go do my job.
	I do it for eight hours.
	I have to come home.
	You know, I barely have any time.
	And here, you know, when I do have time, I come out with you guys on Monday night to relax.
	The last thing I want to do is talk about.
	And I sort of felt bad.
	I went, you're right.
	You're right.
	I'm sorry.
	I apologize.
	Then the game starts.
	These guys are in fantasy football leagues.
	And they're all sitting there, oh man, what kind of play is that?
	It's not a high percentage play.
	On that play, you know that if you went off the left tackle, you're going to get four yards.
	And I'm like, that's a lot of statistics you're throwing out there.
	How do you know that?
	Oh, we study it.
	We get the books and we read up and we study all our players and we go online.
	I said, so, you're willing to spend 20-25 hours a week studying fantasy fucking football, and yet you don't have time when an American's going to go to war and die.
	Yep.
	Our priorities are screwed up.
	Excuse my language.
	I apologize for that bad word.
	No, no, no.
	You can swear, bro.
	We don't watch sports, man.
	Yeah.
	No, but I mean, I used to.
	I don't watch sports as much as I used to.
	I mean, I love sports, but again, I'm just sitting there saying there's just so much going on in the world today that's so important that on Sunday, when I could be watching football, I used to love watching football.
	I'm a Miami Dolphin fan from way back.
	People don't know that.
	Yeah, Marino days.
	Oh, Bob, greasy days.
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, shit, way back.
	Bye.
	I'm all in the back going crazy.
	In 1969, my father was, I was a young kid, 69, I was 8 years old, and my dad is...
	Zodiac Killer was running around killing bitches in San Francisco at that time.
	My dad was trying to do a house project on a Sunday, and I was being a pain in ass as every 8-year-old kid is.
	So he picks me up, throws me in front of the couch.
	Back then we had the Zenith, so he put aluminum foil on the thing, got the screen in, clicked around, and there was a football game on.
	Yeah.
	And he goes, okay, your job is to watch this team.
	He looked at it.
	He goes, that's Miami Dolphins.
	That's Bob Greasy.
	He's fresh out of Purdue.
	And I want to report, is he a good quarterback or not?
	And like a good kid, I sat there and I watched the game.
	And afterwards, I went, Bob Greasy is a great quarterback.
	And I fell in love with Bob Greasy.
	And I was a Miami Dolphin fan for life.
	And a couple of years later, they had the undefeated season.
	Then they won the Super Bowl after that.
	And I'm like, I picked the best team in the world.
	And they've never done anything since then.
	Yeah.
	Horrible experience for me, but I'm a huge dolphin fan.
	Yeah, wow.
	So just, I guess, to sum up the Iraq version before we go on to Ukraine and Russia.
	Guys, like the goddamn video.
	You guys are getting, like, crazy value right now.
	Like, you got someone who actually had boots on the ground in Iraq and can conclusively tell you how there were no weapons of mass destruction after 1998, pretty much.
	Yeah.
	So, to me, it looks like there's a couple reasons why we want Saddam out of power.
	One, personal vengeance.
	Two, issues for Israel, who's an ally.
	And then, third...
	Could you say oil, or is that a lazy explanation?
	Well, first of all, how can you be lazy about oil?
	It runs everything.
	But I hate saying, oh, we invaded for oil.
	But it's not just for oil.
	It's for...
	Look, there's a guy who I don't have too much use for, but he...
	You know, he had his moment, Wesley Clark.
	He was a four-star general, commander of NATO forces.
	And he went on and told a story about right after 9-11, he was called into a meeting, I think, with Paul Wolfowitz, who was a deputy secretary of defense at the time.
	And there was a briefing where they said that they're going to go to war in Iraq.
	And, of course, the question was, Iraq didn't attack us.
	Why are we going to war in Iraq?
	Yeah.
	It was these guys out of Afghanistan, but if you want to really be honest about it, it was these guys out of Hamburg, Germany.
	I mean, if we're really going to bomb the place that the planning for 9-11 was done, that's Hamburg, Germany.
	But we didn't bomb that.
	But why Iraq?
	And they said, well, because this is going to be the beginning of a strategy where we're going to invade seven countries.
	The idea was that we were going to use Iraq as the beginning of wiping everybody out in the Middle East and putting all these governments in place that would be sympathetic to Israel.
	We went to war against Iraq to get rid of Israel's number one threat, Saddam Hussein.
	That's why we went to war against Iraq.
	Hey man, he said it!
	But again, I mean, just to back it up, because in case there's YouTube...
	In case there's YouTube sensors out there, let me just...
	In 1994...
	Yeah.
	I traveled to Israel October of 1994 on a secret mission with the United Nations.
	We needed Israeli intelligence help.
	And the people say, well, why would you go to Israel?
	They're the enemies of Iraq.
	That's exactly why we went to Israel.
	You see, we're getting close.
	To being able to close the books on Iraqi weapons programs.
	We're coming close to accounting for everything.
	But the Israelis were making noise.
	They said, no, we don't trust these people.
	And here's my concern.
	If we went forward and said, we accounted for everything, I know that the Israelis would take an envelope and they'd slide it under the door of every member of Congress.
	And they'd open it up and there'd be intelligence that shows that the Iraqis were holding on to something.
	And then we're ruined.
	So I said, why don't we preempt this?
	We'll go to Israel and we'll get them involved.
	And that's why I went to...
	With intelligence.
	I was the intelligence guy.
	So I went in there and I said, I need their help.
	That explains why you worked with Mossad.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Mossad indirectly, the guys I worked directly for were Amman, military intelligence.
	Okay.
	But Mossad is everywhere.
	Facts.
	Can't escape.
	They might be in this room.
	They're on our phones.
	They're on our phones.
	But I went there and we started a relationship with the Israelis there.
	I'm talking about a very close relationship.
	Yeah.
	I worked with the head of intelligence.
	When I'd come, I'd be briefing.
	I met the Minister of Defense.
	We worked together.
	They were very open with me about the threats.
	I mean, they introduced me.
	For instance, they have a guy they call the Doubting Thomas.
	His job was after the Yom Kippur War in 1973 when the Egyptians surprised them.
	They said, how did we be taken by surprise?
	And they said, it's because nobody would ask questions.
	Intelligence assessments would come in, and people just accepted that they were accurate.
	Nobody challenged them.
	So the Doubting Thomas' job was to challenge everything.
	And so I briefed the Doubting Thomas so that he could challenge every assessment.
	And the Israelis worked very closely with us.
	We literally drained their intelligence databases and turned them into inspections so that the Israelis were believing me when I said there's nothing.
	But they were getting very comfortable.
	I'll give you an example of it.
	In 1991, during the war, when the Iraqis started firing Scud missiles into Israel, the Israelis would sound off these alarms.
	And the Israelis had...
	They put saran wrap on their house, turned it into all this.
	They're putting the gas mask on, but they put it on wrong.
	Babies suffocated in their mother's arms.
	Old people died because of the gas mask.
	They suffocated.
	A lot of Israelis died and there was panic.
	People fled and all this stuff.
	It was a big deal.
	And so now the head of intelligence is coming to me and he calls me and he goes, I have to go brief the Prime Minister right now.
	This was in 1994.
	The Saudis were making a move on Kuwait.
	The Americans were putting Patriot missiles in place.
	Everybody believed the Iraqis would fire scuds again.
	He said, I have to go brief the Prime Minister.
	We have to make a decision.
	Do we release gas masks to the Israeli people in preparation for this?
	He said, the last time we did it was a disaster.
	He said, so I need you to tell me right now, does Iraq have scud missiles that can be tipped with chemical weapons that can hit Israel?
	What'd you say?
	I said no.
	And he believed me.
	And he went and briefed the Prime Minister of Israel, and they didn't issue the gas masks.
	So, my point is, the Israelis were actually believing what we were saying.
	But they were involved in all the inspections.
	By the time I left, when I started, Iraq was their number one threat.
	They tried to kill Saddam.
	There was an assassination attempt against Saddam that went, oh, I mean, this went bad.
	They did a rehearsal for it.
	And unfortunately, there was a live fire incident.
	They ended up killing a bunch of their own guys.
	So, They're ruthless.
	They've been killing Arab powers since the beginning.
	I can't comment on that, but I can say that they were trying to kill Saddam, and it went tits up, and it didn't work.
	But Saddam was the number one threat.
	When I left in 1998, Iraq had dropped about number six.
	Oh, really?
	Wow.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Who was the number one threat at that point?
	You want it?
	America?
	You ready for this?
	No, no, no.
	Orthodox Jews.
	What?!
	The number one threat to Israel were right-wing extremist Jews.
	When you say, what?
	Who killed Yitzhak Rabin?
	I don't know.
	A right-wing extremist Jew.
	Assassinated the Prime Minister of Israel.
	And they had opened up this Aliyah and allowed all these Russian and Ukrainian Jews to come into Israel, which radically transformed the politics of Israel, shifting it from in the middle, where people were actually talking about the potential of peace with the Palestinians, and moved it to the right.
	And so the Israeli Security Service is looking to this saying, we're our own worst enemy.
	We're the biggest threat to Israel.
	We are Israelis.
	That was the number one threat.
	Iran was number two, and Iraq had dropped to number six.
	Egypt was probably on that list?
	Egypt was probably even lower than that.
	Wow.
	Yo, what the hell?
	I did not...
	You would not think that.
	Would these Orthodox...
	Jewish people, were they Zionists?
	No, that's the problem.
	There's two kinds.
	The real Orthodox actually don't believe in Israel.
	Okay.
	Because they say that there can't be an Israel until Messiah has come back and the temple has been rebuilt.
	And so they say that this is sort of, you know, it's against God's teaching to call it the state of Israel because where's the Messiah?
	Where's the temple?
	You're getting ahead of yourselves.
	But the Israelis that they were worried about, the biggest threat, Are the really right-wing conservative people that are the ultra-Zionists who believe in kicking the Palestinians out, don't respect them as human beings.
	Pretty much what the Israeli government is today was considered to be the greatest threat to Israel back in 1998.
	Wow.
	Holy.
	That's a big difference.
	I don't even know.
	Learn something new every day, man.
	This is crazy.
	Guys, like the goddamn video.
	I'll read these chats real quick, and then we will go ahead and transition over to Ukraine and Russia.
	Like the video if you guys are tuning in on this special Thursday episode.
	How can I make money off war short and long term?
	We'll talk about that.
	Don't worry.
	Especially with the Russian-Ukraine war.
	Any updates on Gonzalo Lira's arrest?
	All we heard from the State Department so far has been crickets.
	Scott, I'll leave it to you if you want to comment on that or not.
	It's up to you if you've heard anything.
	I know he's been arrested.
	I hope he's okay, too.
	I wish nothing but good things for Gonzalo Lira, but I don't know anything about his status.
	Yeah.
	As you guys know, he got picked up by, what was it, SBU? SBU. Which is, if I'm going to, it's probably, it's the Ukraine's version of the FBI, I would say.
	Combination FBI, CIA, yeah.
	But let's say it's, he did get like, you know, what would happen at that point?
	If he's dead?
	Yeah.
	He's dead.
	You think they'd kill an American though?
	Yeah, would they kill an American?
	That wouldn't be a good look for them.
	Well, no, it wouldn't be, but at this point in time, okay, let me, let's just put this in perspective for a second.
	Go ahead, please.
	I'm on a death list in Ukraine.
	No, I believe it.
	No, no, I am.
	It's called the Myrtvors list.
	It's a death list.
	It's put together by the Ukrainian Intelligence Services, and it's paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.
	Okay, I can see that.
	It's coordinated with the CIA and the State Department.
	I'm not the only one on that list.
	There's many Americans.
	Tulsi Gabbard's on that list.
	Tucker Carlson's on that list.
	What?
	Rand Paul's on that list.
	Shall I continue?
	All these Americans are on that list, and the U.S. government's not saying anything.
	So now come back to your question.
	What's the U.S. government going to do if Gonzalo Lear gets topped?
	Not a damn thing.
	Damn.
	I would think that would be a bad look because we give them so much aid, but killing an American citizen, like...
	But apparently if you articulate against American policy in Ukraine, you're not an American citizen anymore.
	At least you're not a good American citizen.
	And if you're a bad American...
	Is Trump on that list?
	No.
	Wrong.
	He looks crazy.
	Because Trump is anti-war with Ukraine, too.
	Yeah, but even as much as people hate Donald Trump, do you remember what happened when there was an allegation of an assassination attempt against George W. Bush?
	Yeah.
	Bill Clinton fired a cruise missile?
	Yeah.
	No matter what you think about Donald Trump, he's a former American president, and if somebody puts him on an assassination list, Joe Biden has to take action.
	So, yeah, nobody will put him on a set.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Can you go over how the West has wronged alleged coup that happened with Yevgeny Prigozian Wagner and how strong Putin really is?
	We'll talk about that when we talk about Russia-Ukraine.
	Don't worry.
	Have a great night, sirs.
	Keep up the great work.
	Big Boston CEO Network.
	Thank you, Cody.
	I don't play games.
	Martin, when is the next call in?
	I was in my truck last time.
	I'm going to destroy you in the debate.
	No fresh input, just intelligent people talking.
	Whatever.
	Okay.
	You, Scott, are redacted all the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I saw him on – first, I found him through Gonzalo Lero's channel, and then I saw you on Redacted.
	You did a great talk on the situation with NATO and the United States, which we're going to get into here, but that Iraq talk was awesome.
	Shout out to the whole team and tonight's guests, Matt Up, Flame, Dem, and Shane Dem.
	Thank you.
	Cruxy goes, shout out, Ritter.
	Another great geopolitics, foreign policy, Scott, is Scott Horton.
	Mr.
	Ritter, how serious are China's skimming missiles slash Russia's new-gen nuclear weapons?
	Are we going to cover that in the Russia-Ukraine thing, or do you want to answer that one off here?
	I'll answer this one now.
	How serious are China's sea skimming missiles?
	Let me just put it this way.
	The Chinese are extraordinarily technologically advanced.
	The United States has been threatening to go to war with China over Taiwan and over the South China Sea for a long time now.
	The Chinese are a mature nation, which means that when you threaten them with war, they prepare for war.
	These missiles are designed to sink American ships.
	And if we ever do go to war, unfortunately, you're going to sink a lot of American ships.
	They're very, very serious weapons.
	And we need to take the Chinese very seriously.
	So anybody who thinks that a war with China would be a cakewalk, think again.
	Russia's new generation nuclear weapons are game changers.
	They have more nukes than us, don't they?
	Well, they have more tactical nuclear weapons than us.
	The Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, which is getting ready to expire, limits our delivery systems to 1,550 for each side.
	So we have parity.
	But they have better weapons.
	They built something called the Sarmat Treaty.
	Which is a very heavy intercontinental ballistic missile.
	And the thing about the Sarmat is most intercontinental ballistic missiles Or I should say all ground-based are launched and they go what they call the polar route.
	So they'll fly over the North Pole to get to the North American landmass because that's the shortest route.
	So we have all of our radars and early warning systems built up layered to come in.
	Our missile defense is designed to intercept and all that.
	The Sarmat takes off and goes over the South Pole.
	Oh, shit.
	And we ain't got anything there.
	So the SARMAR comes in.
	There's nothing going to stop it.
	It's going to put 36 warheads on our cities, wipe out our country.
	And then they have something called the avant-garde, which is a hypersonic maneuvering warhead.
	So even when you release a normal warhead, it goes on somewhat of a ballistic trajectory, and you can try and get a solution to shoot it down with anti-ballistic missiles.
	The avant-garde accelerates maneuvers.
	You can't shoot it down.
	It's precision.
	It hits.
	You can't stop it.
	So we've spent all this money on ballistic missile defense.
	It don't work.
	It never will work.
	The Russians have just trumped us on that.
	So anybody who thinks, and this is the thing about Russian nuclear doctrine, you have a lot of people right now saying, well, we can have a limited nuclear war.
	Let's just nuke one place and show the Russians we're serious.
	What they have to understand is that the Russian nuclear doctrine is if you use one nuclear weapon against us, we fire all of ours instantly.
	And it's the end of the world.
	You said 36?
	That's just for one missile.
	They have dozens of them.
	Wow.
	And I would assume every single major U.S. city is on that list, probably.
	New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles.
	Here's the thing about nuclear targeting.
	You only need 400 weapons to destroy the world.
	We've known that for some time now.
	400 weapons will destroy every target worthwhile in the world.
	They got 1,550, which means when they hit Miami, they're coming in with five warheads.
	They're going to get a spread load on it just to make sure it's all gone.
	And it won't be all gone.
	Chris.
	Wow.
	I ain't going to heaven, man.
	Nigga, you're going to hell.
	Yeah, especially with that sound effect usage.
	Stupid.
	Damn.
	Damn.
	Yeah, so nuclear war is not to be played with it.
	This is the other thing I try to tell people is the last remaining nuclear arms reduction treaty.
	Again, I just want to remind people, I was the first United States inspector on the ground in the Soviet Union for the first treaty that got rid of nuclear weapons, that began the process of eliminating them.
	I always tell people, and I say it sort of tongue-in-cheek, but I really mean it, when you meet me, shake my hand and buy me a beer.
	And if you meet any inspector from the INF Treaty, shake their hand and buy them a beard.
	And they'll say, why?
	Because if it weren't for us, you'd be dead today.
	And that's the God's honest truth.
	We saved the world because the weapons we destroyed were so destabilizing that had we not destroyed them, there would have been a mistake.
	There would have been an error.
	They would have been fired and the world would have ended.
	So we got rid of these weapons.
	We saved the world.
	And we began a process of nuclear arms reduction.
	That process is over right now.
	We have one treaty left because the United States is withdrawn from all the other treaties, including the one that I did.
	We've withdrawn from that.
	We've withdrawn from the anti-ballistic missile treaty.
	We have one treaty left.
	We're cheating on it.
	And what we're telling the Russians is our goal is to strategically defeat you.
	The strategic defeat of Russia means the end of Russia.
	And the Russians are saying, yeah, but we have nuclear weapons that say you're not going to achieve that.
	Because as Vladimir Putin has said, a world without Russia isn't a world worth living in.
	So if you want to destroy Russia, Russia is going to destroy the world.
	And he has the weapons.
	And so what he's also said is, since you want to destroy us and these weapons guarantee our survival, why would we continue a treaty with you where these weapons are being controlled and inspected and looked at?
	So the Russians said, screw you, we're done.
	There's no arms control treaty today.
	There's one on paper.
	It expires in 2026.
	And when that ends, the arms race is on.
	And now we're going to go back in time to the same.
	We are getting ready to put the weapons that I destroyed back in place.
	Damn.
	And I already told you if those weapons are in place, we're all going to die.
	This is the God's honest truth.
	People need to get scared about this stuff.
	We are going backwards in time, putting in place very dangerous weapon systems, and we're doing it in an environment where we and the Russians aren't getting along.
	The likelihood of a nuclear war, a world-ending nuclear war, is quite high.
	Wow.
	And this is coming from somebody that actually inspected these weapons and was intimately involved in the process of de-arming the countries that had the most weapons.
	This is fucking crazy, bro.
	Wow.
	Alright!
	Almost like out of a sci-fi movie.
	Yo, like, bro, what the hell?
	Yo, I like the video, guys.
	So, if we all die, at least we'll get the links up.
	Damn.
	Ask him if he had been to them boys' island.
	Yeah, he definitely has.
	He's alive.
	Yeah.
	There was no weapon, sir, real reason, oil slash dollar.
	We talked about that.
	We got here, fresh dog.
	What I'm saying, this guy, bro.
	I mean, Dania, Scott Ritter's experience, backed opinions are respectfully valued.
	Question to Scott.
	Do you think Wagner and Belarus is a good move for Russia?
	Shout out to FNF for this.
	Fire.
	Well, I think, are we going to talk about this, or do you want me to answer that?
	Oh, we're going to cover it in the Russia-Ukraine thing, right?
	Okay, so that's fine.
	If we're going to cover it, then I'll skip it for now.
	Army vet, C6 quadriplegic, injured in Afghanistan in 2010.
	I was 20 years old.
	I joined the military right after high school because I believed the lies.
	F the government.
	We lost good people out there for no reason.
	Amen.
	Thank you for your service, and I'm really sorry that that happened to you, bro.
	Damn, man.
	The name of the fake testimony about throwing babies out of incubators is the Naira testimony.
	Look it up if you doubt them.
	There you go, man.
	All this stuff can be looked up.
	Please talk about Israel and the double standard.
	We talked about that a little bit, but we'll talk about it a little bit more.
	Maybe on Rumble.
	I don't want to leave the TV screen.
	I told you how this is going to be a great talk.
	Maverick, 10 bucks.
	Appreciate that.
	And then, guys, from this point forward, we're going to go 15 up just so that we can make sure that we can, you know, get through because we got a lot to talk about.
	Rob Quimby, we the people need to overthrow the government.
	Eh, I don't know about that.
	All Scott's been right so far.
	History hurts.
	Absolutely.
	Peter Griffin's spitting.
	This guy, bro.
	The what, family guy?
	Say again?
	Do you watch Family Guy, the cartoon?
	I'm aware of it, but I don't watch that much TV anymore.
	You look like Peter Griffin.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Does the U.S. really want Palestine to exist?
	We could talk about that maybe on Rumble.
	Jackhammer, appreciate that, 10 bucks.
	And then we got 20 bucks from Hernandez Professional County.
	He goes, we need to come together no matter our color, religion.
	If not, we'll end up like every communist country.
	I come from one, and I will not give up my rights.
	We need to hold the politicians accountable like we do celebrities.
	Yeah?
	I mean, it is what it is.
	Big Mo, how do we spend billions a year in the military, but countries that spend a fraction of that have better weapons?
	Do you think there are secret weapons that USA has?
	We'll talk about that as well when we talk about the conflict.
	Okay, get orders to the Jimmy Carter A. Okay, and then this last one.
	Cool.
	Mr.
	Ritter, Western civilization in Russia and China are experiencing considerably low birth rates.
	How do you think they will play in geopolitics, and how does the U.S. solve this?
	Big Ops FNF. Do you think we'll answer that during our discussion?
	I can answer that now.
	Okay, please.
	Russia had some birth issues because of the 1990s.
	I think a lot of Americans don't understand what we did in Russia.
	When the Soviet Union collapsed, we, instead of treating the Soviet Union as a friend that needed help, we treated them as a defeated enemy, and we put our foot on their throat.
	We made a decision that we were going to destroy them economically, exploit them politically, because we never wanted them to ever rise up again to challenge us the same way that the Soviet Union did.
	Millions of Russians died.
	Millions of Russians died in that decade.
	I just came back from a trip to Russia.
	I spent 26 days in Russia in May, traveling the entire country, talking to people, meeting people.
	Did they let you in?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	I thought they weren't letting Americans in right now.
	They'll let Americans in who are willing to listen.
	Okay.
	And we had frank discussions.
	This isn't about going over there and some sort of propaganda tour.
	This was the real deal.
	Yeah.
	But the...
	They opened up.
	The guy showed me a photograph of him and his seven childhood friends, and he went down, each one.
	He said he committed suicide, he committed suicide, he committed suicide, he's in jail for murder, he is a drug addict who's, I think he's dead, I don't know where they went.
	Why?
	Because the 1990s...
	Oh, okay, yeah, we'll kill Twitch and Twitter.
	Guys, come on over to YouTube and rumble on Fresh Fit.
	Sorry, Scott.
	We're just killing the other streams, because we get real now.
	Okay, but so...
	And all of this, just an example of how this happened.
	In Crimea, during the Soviet Union, they were going to build a nuclear power plant.
	And so they had started construction on it, and then they recruited the people that were going to run it.
	Nuclear scientists, high-value people, good educations and everything.
	And so they moved their families into this city that they built for them.
	And then the Soviet Union collapses, and Ukraine says, we're not going to build, we're not going to finish the nuclear power plant.
	So you have all these guys with their families with no job.
	And one by one, they started jumping out of buildings.
	They turned on the gas and killed their family because they had no employment, life was horrible, etc.
	That happened throughout the Soviet Union, or throughout the former Soviet Union through Russia.
	People don't understand that.
	Putin remembers that very vividly.
	Well, this is why when Americans are like, you don't understand.
	Vladimir Putin saved Russia.
	In 1999, Russia was getting ready to go down the toilet boil of life because that's what we wanted.
	We wanted Russia to collapse.
	We wanted Russia to break up.
	And Putin said no.
	And he rebuilt Russia.
	So whatever you think about the guy, understand this.
	From the perspective of the average Russian in the street, he saved them.
	He gave them pride.
	They're not jumping out of windows anymore.
	They're living.
	I just came from Russia.
	Their economy today, despite the fact that we've been sanctioning them, is the strongest economy in the history of Russia.
	That's facts.
	It's never been stronger than it is today.
	The ruble has been going up in this.
	They just had the St.
	Petersburg International Economic Forum.
	Hundreds of billions of dollars of international investment contracts were signed.
	Because the world doesn't care about American sanctions.
	The world is investing in Russia because Russia is a growth industry.
	I mean, it's under sanctions, so you can't do it.
	But if sanctions ever get lifted, I'd recommend people call up the economic developers in the city of Novosibirsk, the fastest growing economy in Russia today.
	You will make some money in Novosibirsk if sanctions are lifted.
	Because that's what's happening.
	You know, Joe Biden talks about build back better.
	Yeah, the Build Back Better plan.
	Well, Russia has a real Build Back Better plan.
	Every city I went to has construction going on non-stop.
	Their city planners have money pouring in.
	They're looking for projects.
	Cranes in the air everywhere?
	Everywhere.
	Everywhere.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's wild.
	So, guys, what we're going to do is, from this point forward, all the chats will be shown on screen, but I'm going to...
	Oh, these came in from before?
	Yep.
	All right, I'll read these chats that came in, but from this point forward, guys, 50 and up.
	Imagine being on your yacht in Miami, partying with your 304s, and then, boom, out of nowhere, you're vaporizing Miami with your 304s popping that ass.
	No more silicone, no more Botox, LOL. Chris, what are you putting on me, bro?
	What's a 304, just for me?
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	You know, a calculator.
	Put it backwards.
	Or even on Beeper.
	That too.
	Yeah.
	Noobmaster69.
	Talk about Serbia, Kosovo.
	Same story.
	Okay.
	Chris is above 2024.
	You are absolutely right about that one.
	Listen to Jeffrey Sachs about Help for Russia.
	Cool.
	And we caught up?
	Yep.
	All right.
	Cool.
	I'll just say this about Sachs, though.
	Today he's popular.
	The Russians hate him.
	Because Sachs in the 1990s went in and he was part of the problem.
	He was part of the team that was creating the system that destroyed the...
	the the the russian economy he thought he was trying but he the russians despise the man because the policies he was pushing on it didn't work and they just impoverished a whole bunch of people and empowered the oligarchs and uh today he's saying the right things but i'm just saying i i just came from a country where if i say jeffrey sacks name they're like nah okay um so i guess i guess what we could say is um so now guys we're going to go ahead and transition over to the russian ukraine We covered Iraq extensively.
	Thank you for that, Scott.
	That was a gem that I didn't even see coming.
	How did we get here?
	What's the history behind us even being involved in this?
	Why did Russia feel the need to invade Ukraine?
	How did we get here?
	Well, I mean, okay.
	We already started it, believe it or not, when we talked about the end of the Soviet Union in the decade of the 1990s.
	The job of the United States was not to help Russia get back on its feet.
	The job was to keep Russia down and to break Russia up.
	And Boris Yeltsin was the first president of Russia, and we pretty much owned him.
	I mean, the National Archives have published the phone calls between Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin.
	You can go on and read the transcripts.
	The Russians are saying, why are you guys releasing this?
	We always viewed presidential communications to be confidential.
	But they're releasing it.
	It's humiliating for Boris Yeltsin, how he's begging Bill Clinton not to do things, and Bill Clinton's just ignoring him, laughing him off.
	Near the end of it, When they list the names of people listening in, there's one name that appears now, Vladimir Putin.
	Putin's listening to this, watching his president be debased.
	He was KGB back in the day.
	Well, he was KGB early on in the 80s.
	When he was in those conversations, actually, he was either the head of the FSB, the follow-on to the KGB, or the prime minister.
	But he's listening, and he's saying never again.
	So when Boris Yeltsin picked him to be president, You know, when Putin took over, he knew who the enemy was.
	The enemy was the United States.
	He knew what the problem was.
	The United States had built this entire...
	I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about.
	I was a Russian history major.
	I wrote a thesis on Russia.
	I studied Russia, spoke the language, and I worked in Russia for two years as a weapons inspector.
	And...
	I was considered a big deal in the Russian community.
	I got two classified accommodations from the director of the CIA for my work in Russia.
	And so in 1993, I was recruited by the CIA to go to work as an analyst there.
	And I went and did the interview.
	And the head of the, what they call the, it used to be Sova, Soviet Area Analysis, but now it was Oreo, Office of Russia and East European Studies or something of this nature.
	We interviewed, we talked, and he said, well, you're clearly knowledgeable, but we don't want you.
	And I said, why?
	And he said, because you're old.
	You think old.
	We need people who think new.
	You're tainted by the Soviet experience.
	You have this warmth in your heart for the Russian people.
	We want people who aren't thinking like you, looking at exploiting Russia, dominating Russia.
	And that's just a sad state of affairs.
	And so the people that they...
	The people that they brought in aren't people who are trying to learn about Russia, know Russia, understand Russia.
	They're bringing in people to talk about exploiting Russia, etc.
	So that's the mindset of the United States.
	And Vladimir Putin comes in and says, I'm not playing that game anymore.
	And so our policy from that point on became to kick Putin out of power and to keep Russia going down.
	So that's what's going on.
	That's been going on since day one, 2000.
	Expanding NATO is key to that.
	Taking Ukraine out of the Russian sphere of influence is deemed to be essential.
	In 2008, There was a...
	Real quick, tell the people.
	Actually, no, we'll do, just so you guys know, Fresh has to run.
	So what we'll do is we'll do a quick little musical chairs.
	Do you mind, Scott?
	You can take a seat right here.
	Okay.
	Yeah, quick little switch over, guys.
	While we do that.
	And then we're going to continue on with this.
	We do it live.
	Yeah, yeah, we do it live.
	Do you have the music?
	Yeah, I switched it up.
	All right.
	Am I full?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Sorry about that.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Bye.
	All right, cool.
	So before we get into that, and make sure his sound levels are good and everything else like that.
	Before we get into that, could you tell the people what NATO is specifically and how it came about?
	Sure.
	NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
	It's an alliance of nations in the North Atlantic.
	I mean, it's European nations, the United States, Canada.
	That came together in the 1940s at the end of the Second World War to prevent the expansion of Soviet power into Europe.
	There was a fear that at the end of the war that the Soviet Union would seek to take advantage of the We had the Marshall Plan in place.
	We were an ally with Russia and World War II, weren't we?
	To fight off the Nazis.
	Correct.
	But here's the kicker here.
	The war ends and We have a defense industry that had been built up.
	Remember, before the war, we had a Great Depression.
	Our economy sort of was...
	In the 20s.
	Not due in the 30s.
	Yeah, 30s.
	Sorry.
	Yes.
	You know, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, you know, was trying to get us out of the Depression when World War II comes along.
	And so we build up our economy.
	We sort of recover from the war.
	But now the war is over.
	Germany got out the depression.
	But if we go back to where we were, we'd have these economic problems.
	Plus, as part of the war, we took over the world economy.
	People don't understand.
	We didn't just go to help England.
	We destroyed England.
	We took away all their gold.
	We took away the French gold.
	We made the United States dollar the dominant currency in the world, Bretton Woods, in 1944.
	And so when the war ends, there's people who are afraid about America going back to the isolationism that existed before the war.
	America has to stay involved.
	In order to stay involved, we have to have a threat.
	Enter the Soviet Union.
	They become the threat.
	Winston Churchill gives a speech in Fulton, Missouri, the Iron Curtain speech.
	It captured the imagination of the Americans.
	And so we create NATO to hold off a Soviet threat that, to be honest, didn't exist.
	The Soviet Union, people don't realize, suffered 27 million dead during the war.
	World War II.
	World War II.
	Their economy was destroyed.
	They were in the process of rebuilding.
	The last thing they want is another war.
	Yeah.
	But we created NATO. The first Secretary General of NATO, Lord Hastings, a Brit, said about NATO, he said, To keep the Germans down, that is to keep them suppressed, to keep the Russians out of Europe, and keep the Americans in.
	Meaning that if it weren't for NATO, America could go back to being sort of an isolationist country.
	Germany could rise up again, and then the Russians might feel a need to come in.
	So NATO was designed to do...
	All of that.
	So that's why NATO was created.
	NATO expanded.
	We were fighting.
	We were worried about communism expanding, so we let the Greeks in.
	We let the Turks in.
	We expanded.
	But its focus, again, was primarily on containing Soviet power.
	But when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1992, or late 1991, early 1992, the What was the purpose of NATO at that point?
	And that was one of the big questions.
	When the Berlin Wall came down, one of the key issues that grasped Europe throughout the entire Cold War period was the fate of Germany.
	What would happen to Germany?
	It would have been split, East and West Germany, the Soviets occupying East Germany, the Allies occupying West Germany.
	What was the future of Germany?
	If Germany came together, there was always this fear that this big Germany could become Bad Germany again.
	And so when the Berlin Wall collapsed and Germany started talking about reuniting, the Russians were a little nervous.
	The Soviets were a little nervous.
	They're saying, hey, we need a peace treaty.
	You know, we haven't signed a peace treaty yet with Germany.
	We need to understand their future.
	And what about NATO?
	West Germany is a NATO country.
	If we withdraw, are you going to come in and it's going to be unacceptable if you put NATO into East Germany?
	And he was told by all the NATO leaders, NATO will not expand one inch eastward.
	You withdraw your troops.
	There were 500,000 or 400,000 Soviet troops in East Germany.
	Withdraw your troops and NATO won't expand.
	Because after World War II, we basically broke Germany in three parts, if I'm not mistaken.
	Well, Berlin was in four parts.
	Germany was in four.
	Yeah.
	Americans took a piece.
	The British took a piece.
	The Russians took a piece.
	And the French took a piece.
	And then the...
	The three pieces, the French, the British, the American piece, sort of were consolidated into West Germany.
	And then the Soviets had East Germany.
	So now the Soviets are going to withdraw, and we promised we wouldn't move NATO forces one inch eastward.
	James Baker, who made that promise, came back and briefed...
	Papa Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush's national security team, they said, no, not so fast.
	We're going to want to expand NATO because we've got to keep the Russians down.
	So we lied to the Soviets.
	They withdrew.
	And then we've been expanding ever since.
	So in 2008, An ambassador named William Burns.
	Today, you might know him as the CIA director.
	But in 2008, he was the U.S. ambassador to Russia.
	He wrote a memorandum called Net Means Net, No Means No.
	And what he said is, if we invite Ukraine to join NATO, the Russians have said that's a red line.
	And it will inevitably lead to a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
	And when did they predict this?
	This was back in 2008.
	2008.
	2008.
	And this was in April.
	So he said, don't.
	In November 2008, we invite Ukraine to join NATO. So please understand what I'm saying.
	We haven't invited them since back then?
	We invited them in November of 2008.
	I thought they had been trying to join all this time and they couldn't get in because the country wasn't up to par on certain standards.
	The invitation doesn't mean to join immediately.
	It means we begin the process.
	We begin the roadmap and all the things that happen.
	But basically it says, we want you to become a member.
	And the Russians are like...
	What the hell?
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	No means no.
	What part of that don't you understand?
	Yeah.
	And then in 2014, we carry out a coup in Kiev to kick out the pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, who was constitutionally elected, and we replace him with these Ukrainian nationalists who are from a party called Svoboda Party, the right sector.
	Now, let me explain what that is.
	They're a minority politically in Ukraine.
	Mm-hmm.
	Their roots, they worship a guy named Stepan Bandera.
	Stepan Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist from the 1930s, 1940s.
	He was openly, he collaborated with Adolf Hitler.
	Bandera's forces, when they went into, when Germany invaded Poland and then invaded Russia, went in and they murdered 30,000 to 40,000 Jews.
	They killed 110,000 Poles.
	They slaughtered 220,000 Russians because they view all of them as subhuman.
	These are Ukrainian nationalists.
	These are Ukrainian nationalists, and Stepan Bandera is their leader.
	Okay.
	He's collaborating with the Germans.
	Now, as the Russians...
	Was Ukraine not its own...
	Well, I guess it was a part of the Soviet Union, but it was still its own nation, so to speak?
	They looked at themselves as, we're not Russian, we're Ukrainian?
	If you go back, I mean, this is where it gets controversial about, you know, when did Ukraine happen.
	The...
	The Russian perspective is that Ukraine was an artificial state created by the Soviets, created by Lenin.
	And they created this artificial state.
	The Ukrainians are going to say, no, our heritage goes back further than that, etc.
	But here's the thing.
	The Ukrainian nationalists of Stepan Bandera are people from what we call today Western Ukraine.
	Okay.
	Western Ukraine at one time was part of Poland.
	Okay.
	So actually when Stepan Bandera began his Ukrainian nationalism, it was because the part of the Western Ukraine that we call Western Ukraine today, I think it's Volhonia or something like that, was part of Poland.
	Gotcha.
	But he still killed his own people, essentially.
	No, no.
	Because the Ukrainians are different than the Poles.
	Okay.
	He viewed the Poles as subhuman.
	Okay, as enemies.
	Not just enemies.
	I use subhuman for a reason.
	Yeah.
	Because the ultimate white supremacists are the Ukrainians.
	These are the original master race.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	They hate the Jews.
	Yeah.
	They hate the Poles.
	They hate the Russians.
	So when Germany comes in, they ally themselves with the Germans, and they're fighting, fighting, fighting.
	Now, the Soviets are starting to counterattack.
	So as they push their way through what is called Ukraine, these Banderas groups stay behind as sort of insurgents, and they're controlled by the Germans.
	So as the Germans retreat, they have these stay-behind guys.
	They're collecting intelligence.
	They're blowing up bridges.
	And this was an organization known as the Galen Network.
	Galen was the name of the German general who commanded this intelligence apparatus.
	When the war ended, the United States captured Galen.
	Now, he's a Nazi responsible for the deaths of many people.
	Should have been put in prison.
	Should have been hung by the neck until dead.
	But Galen said, but I have a network of spies.
	And still operating inside the Soviet Union.
	And we went, oh, sit down at the table.
	You're our friend now.
	And we brought him in, and we controlled him, and we controlled them.
	And we used them from the very beginning to attack the Russians, to destabilize the Russians, etc.
	So we used these Banderist rebels, these insurgents, to attack the Soviets.
	And the CIA fought a covert war from 1945 until 1953, 50.
	And Like I said, hundreds of thousands of Russians were killed.
	48,000 Russian soldiers were killed.
	It's a big war.
	It's not a little war.
	So this has been going on since the 50s, 40s.
	40s.
	But in the 50s, the Soviets finally beat them.
	Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian nationalists, the Banderists.
	So the audience is tracking here.
	Guys, you got to stay on point and pay attention.
	They flee.
	They go to places like Germany, England, Canada, the United States.
	I already told you that Stepan Bander is a murderer.
	The CIA itself and its documents say this is one of the worst people we've ever met in our lives.
	Responsible for killing Jewish people, Polish people, Russians, everybody in the name of Ukrainian nationalism.
	60 miles from my town.
	I live in upstate New York, outside of Albany.
	60 miles from my town, where I live, is a town called Ellenville, New York.
	In Ellenville, New York, there's a park called Heroes Park.
	Heroes Park has five statues.
	Of Ukrainian nationalists, one of which is Stepon Bandera.
	Wow.
	Every summer, Ukrainian Banderists get together wearing their Nazi uniforms, and they parade around their nice little blonde hair, blue-eyed Aryan race.
	They carry portraits of Stepan Bandera.
	They sing songs glorifying Stepan Bandera.
	It's alive and well living in America and Canada.
	They've been embedded in the United States since the 50s, 60s, 70s to this day.
	The CIA continued to fund this operation from 1954 until 1990.
	And at that point in time in 1990, they stopped funding it because the nationalists were back in power.
	We put them in power in the government in 2014.
	The first thing the nationalists did is they outlawed the Russian language.
	They passed a law banning Russian culture.
	And then when the Russians pushed back, they declared an anti-terrorism operation and they declared all the ethnic Russians to be terrorists.
	And they began attacking them.
	In May of 2014, there was a demonstration of pro-Russians in the city of Odessa.
	The Banderists shoved 150 of them into a building, the Trade Center, Trade Union building, set it on fire and cheered as people burned to death, jumped out of the building.
	Anybody who jumped out and survived, they shot on the ground.
	And then they marched on the Crimea.
	People are like, you keep hearing people go, the little green men, the little green men, Putin is the little green men.
	You want to know why the little green men went into Crimea?
	To stop the Banderas from coming in and doing the same thing to the Russians in Crimea.
	So he stopped and he said, we're not playing this game.
	Crimea belongs to us.
	End of story.
	So then they shifted up and they went to Mario pool.
	You might remember that name, the fighting.
	Real quick, just because this is something real quick.
	Guys, I like the goddamn video.
	This is something that came up a lot back in 2014, right?
	Where people say, oh, Russia invaded Ukraine, blah, blah, blah.
	So the real reason why they invaded is because these Ukrainian nationalists at Banderas were killing innocent Russians, ethnic Russians.
	100%.
	And Crimea, so that's why Russia invaded...
	Well, they started in Odessa.
	Now they went to Crimea.
	Russia invaded Crimea to take it back and say, no, you're not going to kill Russia.
	Okay, to stop them from what they did in Odessa.
	Right.
	But then they moved up to Mariupol.
	Now, we all know Mariupol from the fighting that took place there last year.
	The heavy fighting in Mariupol, Azov still, and all that.
	The Azov Battalion.
	Well, Mariupol, the Banderas went in there and started literally...
	Raping, murdering, you know, terrorizing the ethnic Russians.
	So the ethnic Russians started to organize into these militia units to defend themselves.
	And then, you know, And that's how this war began.
	So the Russians intervened.
	People talk about Wagner.
	You hear about Wagner today, Pergosian and all that.
	Wagner was created in 2014 by the Russian government to provide assistance to the pro-Russian ethnic Russians that were defending themselves against the Nazis.
	That's how Wagner was created.
	And is that like a law or what is it specifically?
	Well, the thing is, Because, well, Wagner is a Wagner group, the private military contractors, the mercenary organization.
	Okay.
	You have Guinea-Pragosian heads, the guy who just launched the coup against...
	Putin's right-hand guy.
	They call him the chef.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That was his private army that...
	Okay.
	Well, he was...
	Okay.
	he was given the responsibility of building this army because the reason why is that even though we call these people pro-Russian ethnic Russians, it's still Ukraine.
	Yes.
	The Donbass are Ukraine.
	And by law, Russia can't put Russian soldiers on that territory without permission of the Russian parliament and they weren't giving Putin permission.
	Okay.
	So the only way that Putin could give military assistance was for Wagner to create a mercenary army.
	And so then the military assistance came in.
	So that's how that army was created to provide assistance to fight back.
	So was that army originally created to protect innocent Russians from the Nazis that lived in...
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Now here's the thing.
	They did a really good job.
	And by 2014, they had the Ukrainian army surrounded and they were going to kill them all.
	And that's when the Germans and the French came in and said, please, Mr.
	Putin, don't kill all the Ukrainian soldiers.
	Please don't do that.
	Don't kill these Nazis.
	Don't kill the Nazis.
	Let's have a ceasefire.
	We'll call it the Minsk Accords.
	A ceasefire agreement.
	And you'll let the Ukrainian army live, and then we will get the Ukrainian government to agree to this term where...
	We'll protect the rights of the Russians.
	We won't kill the Russians.
	We'll do all that.
	And Putin went, okay, I'll agree to that.
	At this point, not to stop you, in 2014, they were getting sanctioned, weren't they?
	Didn't Obama sanction them at this point?
	Yeah, they sanctioned the Russians for Crimea.
	Yeah, for invading into Crimea.
	And they're also sanctioned for helping the ethnic Russians defend themselves against the Nazis.
	Yeah, so I want y'all to know that too because that's important because I think that's a big reason why Putin, the sanctions aren't messing them up now.
	They prepared themselves for the sanctions that came in 2022.
	Well, let me put it this way.
	If I told you That, you know, I'm coming over to your house and I'm going to kick your butt.
	We're going to box.
	You'd say, well, I'm going to the gym.
	I'm going to get a trainer.
	I'm going to practice boxing.
	And I keep talking how I'm going to come over here and kick your butt.
	But all I'm doing is talking.
	I'm going to come over and kick your butt.
	You're training.
	You're boxing.
	Now I show up and knock on your door.
	I'm going to kick your butt.
	And you kick my butt because you've been training.
	You've been ready to box.
	I've been running my mouth.
	The United States has been going sanction, sanction, sanction, sanction.
	And the Russians are like...
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	We know it's coming.
	So they pretty much created their infrastructure.
	They beat us.
	So I'm sorry, continue on.
	So you were saying, so the Minsk agreements, I'm sorry.
	So the Minsk Accords comes in.
	Now here's the deal.
	There was a ceasefire.
	It stopped the war.
	It saved the Ukrainian army.
	The deal with Minsk was that Donbass would still be part of Ukraine.
	You know, they tried to separate.
	The ethnic Russians voted for independence in 2014 and begged the Russians to take him in.
	And Putin said no.
	He said, you're part of Ukraine.
	We will defend your rights, but we're not going to split Ukraine up.
	A lot of people don't realize that.
	I didn't know that.
	That Putin didn't want to split up Ukraine.
	All he wanted was to protect the rights of the ethnic Ukrainians.
	Why didn't he want to take them in?
	Because you can't get into...
	It's not taking them in.
	You can't get into the business of redrawing the map of Europe.
	That's a messy thing.
	Once you start changing the borders, you undo the stability that World War II was trying to engender.
	And Putin believed in that.
	Look, Putin believes in Russia.
	In 2005, he gave a speech to the Russian Federal Assembly, their Congress.
	And, you know, it's a speech that's been misrepresented a lot.
	People say, you know, oh, Vladimir Putin wants the Soviet Union to come back.
	And I'm like, well, why do you say that?
	Because he gave a speech.
	I said, yeah, but listen to the speech.
	He said, one of the greatest catastrophes of the last century was the collapse of the Soviet Union.
	Now, the people have twisted to say the greatest calamity was the collapse.
	So they're saying, see, he regrets the Soviet Union collapse, and that means he wants it to come back.
	I said, wait.
	There's more.
	Listen to what he says.
	Because overnight, tens of millions of Russians became homeless.
	People who used to live in the Soviet Union overnight lived in a foreign country.
	Russians were now in Ukraine.
	Russians were in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Uzbekistan.
	Russians no longer have a home.
	And they were abused.
	He said, I am the president of the Russian nation.
	And the Russian nation is larger than the Russian Federation.
	The Russian nation are the people with common language, common culture, common heritage, common religion.
	He said, my job is to defend them all.
	And so now we get to the Donbass.
	His job is to defend them.
	That doesn't mean that you're going to break up the Ukraine.
	What it means is you're going to defend the Russians.
	So he did.
	He went...
	He created Wagner.
	He went to war.
	They won.
	Now there's a ceasefire.
	All that has to happen is the Ukrainians have to sign the deal.
	They wouldn't.
	They kept the lane.
	The Minsk agreements?
	Yeah.
	They wouldn't sign them?
	No.
	They kept the lane.
	They wouldn't implement them.
	What was outlined in the Minsk agreements that kept them from signing?
	Well, peace.
	That's the problem.
	No, I'll get to it instead because this is a big deal.
	Please.
	What the Russians guaranteed is that they would respect the borders.
	That they would withdraw, all the forces would withdraw behind the borders, that it would be demilitarized, but that the Ukrainians would have to withdraw their own troops from the Donbass and then pass laws that protected the linguistic, cultural, religious rights of the Russians living there so that they could speak Russian, they could celebrate Russian history, they could celebrate Russian culture.
	Ukrainians wouldn't change those laws.
	And the reason why is this, and we now know Petro Poroshenko was the president of Ukraine at the time.
	After Putin invaded Ukraine, people asked him about Minsk.
	He said, the Minsk agreements, they were a sham.
	We were never gonna implement them.
	We were just using them to buy time so that NATO could rebuild the Ukrainian army.
	Remember that Ukrainian army that Putin had surrounded?
	It was gonna destroy?
	And let it go?
	Because he wanted peace?
	Because Putin wanted peace?
	All these people today, Putin started...
	I'm trying to tell people right now, Putin is the only person that wanted peace.
	He could have destroyed the Ukrainian army back in 2014.
	He could have imposed his will on that area.
	But he chose peace.
	He was the only one serious about peace.
	Now, Petro Poroshenko was admitting the Ukrainians were never going to sign it.
	It was a sham.
	But it's not just that.
	The Germans and the French that went begging to Putin...
	Angela Merkel has talked about it.
	The hardest 48 hours of her life where she did the shuttle diplomacy, begging Putin to agree to this, to go with this.
	So Putin did it.
	She has said, yeah, the whole purpose of that was just to buy time so we could build up the Ukrainian army.
	Francois Hollen, the French president, the same thing.
	Most Americans don't realize in 2015, we opened up a U.S. training mission in Ukraine.
	The job of the U.S. training mission was to train one battalion of Ukrainian forces every 55 days for the sole purpose of going eastwards to kill Russians.
	That's it.
	We trained them to kill Russians.
	We were never interested in peace.
	This is 2014.
	2015.
	2015.
	And a battalion is roughly...
	500, 600 men.
	Yeah.
	So we did that from 2015 to 2021, or 22.
	That was our job.
	Not to create peace, but to train the Ukrainian army to kill Russians in the Donbas.
	Zelensky ran on a platform in 2019 to be president of Ukraine.
	What tactical advantage or benefit do they derive from controlling the Donbass?
	Crimea, I can see because it's right there on the water.
	You have access to the sea.
	But why the Donbass?
	The Donbass is the heart of the Russian economy, the heart of...
	Of the Soviet economy.
	It's where the coal mines are.
	It's where the steel mills are.
	It's basically the industrial heartland of Russia.
	It's a Russian territory that was given to Ukraine by Joseph Stalin so that Ukraine would have some sort of economic viability.
	Because without the Donbass, Ukraine is just a bunch of farmers.
	Gotcha.
	The Donbass is what gives them...
	So are the resources shared between Russia and Ukraine from the Donbass?
	No, the Donbass, the resources belong to Ukraine.
	Okay.
	Well, not now.
	Now they belong to Russia.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But again, Putin was willing to let Donbass...
	Let them have it, but they were killing the Russians.
	That's why he had to come in.
	That's why he had to stop.
	Okay.
	So...
	In 2019, Zelensky's running for president saying, I want peace.
	I want to bring about peace.
	I want peace with Russia.
	He was elected president because the Russian population of Ukraine said, we'll vote for you because we believe that you'll bring us peace.
	Let me ask you this.
	Because people have criticized you and said, you're a puppet for the Russian propaganda machine.
	You're just pro-Putin.
	You're just saying all this stuff, blah, blah, blah.
	It's a bunch of BS, blah, blah, blah.
	What's your response to all the people out there that say that you're a Putin puppet?
	By saying what you're saying.
	By saying, like, oh, Putin wanted peace or whatever.
	What's your response to that?
	Because I agree with you that he wanted peace.
	But I want to see, like, what's your thoughts on the people that hate and say, oh, he's just a Putin puppet.
	He's just saying all this crap.
	You and I had a long conversation about Iraq.
	Yeah.
	Am I a Saddam puppet?
	No.
	I think I just answered your question.
	There you go.
	I'll just say this.
	I mean, I think the other thing, too, just using common sense, if Putin didn't want peace, he could have destroyed Ukraine in one day, guys.
	That quick.
	Come on, man.
	For all the people out there saying he doesn't want peace, he literally could have destroyed Ukraine in one fucking day.
	I'm probably one of the few people that you talked to that spent the first part of their adult life training to kill Russians.
	I spent two and a half years in 29 Palms, California, 24-7, perfecting the art of killing Russians.
	I went to bed every night praying for war.
	I wanted to kill Russians.
	So you can call me a Putin fucking puppet.
	Eat shit and die.
	Excuse my language, but you know what?
	I have no time for people like that.
	I'm a Russian expert.
	Before you call me a Putin puppet, challenge me on my facts.
	Challenge me on my knowledge.
	Challenge me on why I take the position I do.
	I don't take the position because I'm pro-Putin.
	I take the position because I'm pro-fucking-peace.
	If you don't understand what I have done in my life to stop war, to prevent war, You know, in the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, I bent over backwards to stop a war.
	A lot of people don't know that I traveled to Iraq and spoke before the Iraqi parliament.
	I'm the only foreigner to ever do that.
	There's a petition to the Iraqi parliament to let UN weapons inspectors back in as a precondition to stopping the war.
	I came back and people said, you're a Saddam stooge and all blah blah.
	Saddam, let the inspectors back in because of what I did.
	And I'm a fucking Saddam stooge?
	You just had a note from a guy who talked about being a paraplegic, going to Afghanistan, went to war on a bunch of lies.
	I was trying to stop that from happening.
	If you don't understand that, you don't understand jack shit.
	I'm getting a little angry right now because I just despise the ignorance of people.
	You know, you want to come at me, come at me with facts.
	You call me a Putin puppet, you better know how to fucking spell Russia first, asshole.
	All right?
	You better understand the context of everything I'm saying.
	If you're going to challenge me, challenge me on the facts.
	Tell me that Zelensky, Volodymyr Zelensky, didn't hold a war council shortly after he was elected president where he said, our policy is war, war, war.
	I got a fucking video that has him saying that.
	And you're going to say that Putin's the warmonger?
	He's the only one who wanted peace.
	The Minsk Accords is something he tried to have implemented the entire time.
	It's not Putin that said it's a sham.
	It's not Putin.
	It was Merkel, Haaland, Poroshenko.
	Putin wanted it implemented, even when they pulled out of the Minsk Accords in the fall of 2021.
	Putin's step wasn't to go to war.
	It was to put draft treaties in place and appeal to NATO and the United States.
	Please, one last negotiated chance to end this...
	Let's not go to war.
	Let's have a negotiation.
	The United States and NATO refused to consider this.
	Even when they did that, he went back to Zelensky and sent negotiating teams saying, come on, we don't want to go to war.
	Let's find a solution.
	Let's find a solution.
	Zelensky led him on, led him on, led him on.
	All the while they were taking that NATO-trained army and positioning it to invade.
	They were scheduled to invade the Donbass in March.
	Putin preempted it with his invasion.
	By the way, under international law, Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, self-defense, international law talks about preemptive self-defense, which is what Putin did.
	Preemptive self-defense.
	He didn't violate any law.
	It's not a war of aggression.
	Preemptive self-defense.
	And what did he do after he invaded?
	The whole purpose of the invasion was to get Ukrainians back to the negotiating table.
	That's all Putin wanted to do.
	Get them to negotiate.
	And it almost worked.
	They had three meetings in Gomel, Belarus in early March.
	Why?
	Because the Russians scared the living crap out of Zelensky with their invasion.
	So they sent the team in.
	They negotiated.
	They had a treaty ready to sign on 1 April.
	Ladies and gentlemen, just think about this for a second.
	The Ukrainians initialed the treaty.
	They signed the treaty.
	We know now because Putin actually brought the documents up, showed it to the African peace delegation that came in and said, why aren't you negotiating with the Ukrainians?
	He said, guys, we've been trying to negotiate from day one.
	They aren't serious about it.
	They signed this treaty.
	We were ready to sign it.
	The United States and Great Britain told Zelensky, don't.
	Wow.
	Because we want to send you billions of dollars of military aid to continue this war.
	Over 350,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died.
	That's what the casualties are at now, 300,000?
	350,000.
	350,000.
	About 310,000 of them.
	Where does that number come from for the people?
	Because I know they're going to ask, where does that number come from?
	Well, the number comes from the Ukrainians who are acknowledging the big numbers.
	Okay, it comes from Ukrainians themselves.
	Well, I mean, the numbers come from crunching the data.
	Okay.
	The Ukrainians have for long said they haven't suffered many, but now they're coming out saying, we've suffered more dead than you can possibly imagine.
	They won't give a number to it.
	But if you run the numbers, if you run the battles, if you talk to the mothers, people have gone in and the families are saying, where's my husband, where's my son, the missing, etc.
	The numbers come up to around $350,000.
	We know that Evgeny Purgosian's...
	Bare minimum $350,000.
	Yeah, because there's missing and things of that.
	You know, Prigozhin, who we talked about, Wagner, in the battle for Bakhmut earlier this year, they've killed 75,000, and that's counted bodies, 75,000 Ukrainians physically counted by them.
	So that's a lot.
	They just killed 13,000 Ukrainians at the first two and a half weeks of this counteroffensive, counted bodies.
	So these are big numbers, guys, a lot of numbers.
	The point I'm trying to make is they would all be alive today if we had allowed that peace treaty to be signed.
	And the peace treaty that Putin was going for was basically just to say, look, the Donbass is independent.
	You guys blew it.
	We can't let it go back to you.
	They're Russians.
	They're going to be independent.
	Crimea is ours.
	But everything else goes back to you.
	You can't join NATO, but we will allow you to have security guarantees from the United States, Great Britain, and elsewhere.
	We'll guarantee you security.
	That's all we want.
	Wow.
	I think that's pretty fair terms.
	Especially when you look at what happened today.
	But Ukraine's walked away, and since they've been in a war, I just want to remind people, because of the decisions made by the United States in pressuring Ukraine to not go along with this peace treaty, There are hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that are dead who otherwise would be alive.
	There are tens of millions of Ukrainians who have been displaced from their homes, who otherwise would have a home, be living a normal life.
	Think of all the children who aren't going to school now, who are refugees, whose lives are displaced, who have lost their fathers.
	Every one of those dead men is a potential father, brother, uncle, gone in their lives.
	Finished.
	Gone.
	Forever.
	A trillion dollars of infrastructure damage has been done to their country.
	All because the United States wouldn't allow Ukraine to make peace with Russia.
	Russia's not the problem, ladies and gentlemen.
	Russia's not the problem.
	Russia wants peace.
	Russia's been seeking peace.
	It's the United States.
	Now, here's the sickest part of all.
	You've heard the name George Soros.
	I know everybody's talking about George Soros.
	Probably can't use that name and get in trouble.
	But in 1993, George Soros wrote a paper that talked about how NATO is supposed to deal with Russia.
	And he said, we need to avoid a direct war between NATO and Russia at all costs.
	Why?
	Because there'll be NATO body bags that come home, and that's always a bad look.
	What they need to do, he said, is come up with a situation where you have Eastern European manpower.
	Mm-hmm.
	that's been lured into believing they're going to be part of NATO, but they'll never be allowed to join NATO.
	And we marry them with NATO technology and use them to inflict pain on Russia.
	Eastern European manpower, Ukraine.
	Yep.
	Lured into believing they're going to be NATO, but never going to be allowed.
	2008, inviting them in, but never living.
	Marrying them with NATO technology.
	Tens of billions of dollars of NATO technology to bring pain to Russia.
	1993, George Soros put that in place.
	Wow.
	That's the policy that we have today.
	That's exactly the policy.
	We are...
	All these people who put the little Ukrainian flag on your...
	You know, social media, the virtue signaling, all this stuff.
	Understand that all you're doing is killing them.
	We don't care about Ukraine.
	If we did, we would never allow hundreds of thousands of them to die in a war that they can't win.
	All we're using them to do is inflict pain on Russia.
	And this is a design, a plan that's been in place since 1993.
	For all the people out there, right, that are saying, oh, he's a pulling puppet, pulling propaganda, blah, blah, blah, blah, I mean, do you guys have these facts?
	I don't think a lot of the detractors do, man.
	They're just going to sit there and say some bullshit or make ad hominem attacks versus...
	They won't debate.
	Here's the other thing, too.
	My uncle...
	Incredible.
	My uncle fought in World War II. Yeah.
	He went over Normandy Beach.
	Not on D-Day.
	A lot of people realize that...
	You know, the Normandy Beach became a supply route.
	So I think he came over on D plus six.
	Yeah.
	He was in a supply unit.
	He's not a hero.
	He's not a frontline hero.
	His job was to run trucks up and down what they call the Red Ball Express.
	And he did that, took the trucks in, helped move George Patton's army up through France and all that stuff.
	And around in October of 1944 in Belgium, his unit, a company, Wow.
	Wow.
	Mel Babcock is his name.
	Well, he's dead now.
	Mel Babcock finished the war, went back to Kellogg, Michigan, worked in the Kellogg factory.
	He made cornflakes, of all things.
	Quiet, unassuming man.
	He came and visited my family when we lived in Germany in 1977.
	And he was dying of cancer.
	He was a smoker.
	But he still had his health.
	But he wanted to come back and see the battlefield.
	So we drove him through Europe.
	And we took him.
	And, you know, as you're going through France, he's just all like, oh, I remember this village.
	I remember we came here.
	The women came out to meet us.
	But when we get up to Belgium, it got quiet.
	And when we turn around that road, He got out of the car and he broke down and cried.
	Grown man, bawling like a baby because he remembered what happened there.
	We then went to the cemetery.
	There's a big military cemetery in Luxembourg and went there.
	And that's where George Patton is buried.
	And there are tens of thousands of crosses of dead American soldiers.
	And we went there and we found the graves of his friends.
	And he went to each one of them and had a private conversation with them, but crying the whole time.
	I was, gosh, 16 years old when that happened, and it impacted me deeply.
	I lived in Germany, but watching the cost of that war to my uncle, what it did to my uncle, I realized how evil Nazi Germany was.
	I traveled to the concentration camps.
	I saw them.
	I started to educate myself about it.
	And while I like the Germans, I love the Germans.
	They're good people.
	Their cultures, who doesn't like to drink beer and eat schnitzel and all that kind of stuff?
	But at the end of the day, I realized that they had a dark history.
	That Nazi Germany could never be allowed to rear its ugly head.
	And my uncle is up above looking down at me saying, never forget.
	Never forget.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we're allowing Nazis to come back into power in Ukraine.
	The Ukrainian government is a government that has made Stepan Bandera, that guy we talked about earlier.
	He's their national hero.
	They sing songs to him.
	They name streets after him.
	They put statues on him.
	They have his tattoos.
	They had a Bandera unit called the Dillwiger unit.
	They have crossed hammers as their sign.
	These are the guys that raped Jewish women, hit them with skulls.
	They ran the concentration camps.
	These are mass murders.
	They specialized in herding villagers into a barn and setting it on fire and then drinking while they burned to death.
	And anybody who managed to come out of the building, they shoot them down with a machine gun.
	This is what they did for fun.
	And these are the people that said Slava Ukraina as they murdered the people.
	Glory to Ukraine.
	Glory to the heroes.
	Glory to Ukraine.
	Nancy Pelosi said Slavukraina in the American Congress.
	Does she not understand that that is the exact equivalent of Sig Heil?
	Imagine if I went to the Congress, stood up and went, Sig Heil!
	People go, what the hell are you doing, you Nazi?
	Well, what is she doing?
	Saying Slavukraina, because that is a Nazi war cry of the Ukrainian nationalists who murdered people on behalf.
	And that's her people, too.
	Yes.
	That's her people.
	Thank you for bringing that up.
	My uncle's up there looking down saying, uh-uh.
	And you know what?
	There's a lot of Americans who have uncles and brothers, you know, fathers, grandfathers who are looking down saying, uh-uh, we're ignoring them.
	We've turned our back on our history.
	We went to war, and remember, we went to war with the Soviet Union against Nazi Germany.
	I just came from Russia.
	I'm telling you right now that there's not a Russian family that didn't suffer.
	My wife is from Georgia, Republic of Georgia.
	Her father passed away recently, and he left a memoir.
	So we're having that memoir.
	It was handwritten, so we're having it transcribed.
	And she's reading it, and she just came to me, and she said, I just came to this section about my family in World War II. I lost five relatives.
	And she went through all the relatives there, 18 years old, 19 years old, all the relatives that were lost.
	Her family lost five people dead in the war.
	That's just one family.
	Throughout the entire Soviet Union, every family lost people.
	There's not a family that wasn't touched by this.
	And they remember.
	They don't forget.
	They wake up every morning and those people are above them staring down saying, don't forget what happened.
	Don't disgrace our sacrifice.
	And so you say, what is motivating the Russians to fight in Ukraine today?
	They're fighting Nazis.
	They're fighting Nazis.
	And when Americans go over there and provide assistance, we're helping Nazis.
	And we know it.
	Even the New York Times can't hide it anymore.
	They're sitting there taking photographs.
	If you look at the people surrounding Zelensky, they've got Nazi symbols.
	Look at the tanks that we give them.
	They put the Nazi cross on it.
	Let me ask you this.
	For people out there that might say, well, Zelensky, right, is Jewish.
	Why is he surrounded by Nazis?
	Why are Nazis protecting him?
	What's your answer for that?
	Study the concentration camps.
	And there's a class of people called Capo.
	They're the guys that worked.
	They were collaborators with the Nazis.
	They're the ones that kept the Jews in the camps under order.
	They're the ones that lined them up, took the roll call.
	They got extra food, extra benefits.
	They were Jews.
	The Capos helped the Nazis kill the Jews.
	So it's a phenomena.
	Zelensky is a disgrace to every Jew that is alive today.
	Many rabbis have called him out on it.
	They've said, you're a disgrace.
	Israeli rabbis have said, you're a disgrace.
	You're the least Jewish.
	Can he go to Israel if he wanted to?
	He could.
	But, you know, yeah, I mean, I'm actually thinking that his wife has already bought property in Israel.
	Because I looked at it like, To me, just off of him not wanting to make peace, him not wanting to come to the table with Putin in my head, I'm like, why is he not?
	But then I think about it.
	Wait, he's a billionaire now because of the war.
	He has a house here in Miami.
	He's perfectly safe.
	Nothing's going to happen to him.
	So does he really care about Ukraine?
	I don't think so.
	It's a question only he can answer.
	I don't imagine as a president you could claim to care about a country that you're destroying.
	And knowing that you can't save it.
	Knowing that every day that goes by, all you're doing...
	Look, he's a guy that has to know that George Soros' plan is coming into play.
	That he's being used as a tool.
	That we're sacrificing East European manpower to hurt Russia.
	What's George Soros' beef with Russia?
	Again, that's a question only George Soros can answer.
	I think his whole thing is, you know, world government, and he needs to, the Russians have always stood up against the kind of globalism that George Soros and others have been putting in play.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Alright, I'll hit some of these chats.
	Guys, like the video, man.
	You guys are getting a lot of heat right now.
	Rams goes, what did Zelensky really mean when he said he wants Ukraine to be Israel 2.0?
	Did he say that?
	What he means by that is he wants the security of Israel.
	He wants to have the level of security that Israel has.
	He wants the Iron Dome.
	He wants American protection, things of that nature.
	He wants to make Ukraine so powerful that its neighbors won't dare to attack it.
	But what he doesn't understand is that Israel is attacked every day because their neighbors hate them.
	Yeah.
	That Israel has become a hated part of the Middle East, and that security is in name only.
	Israel has all this wonderful weaponry, all this security, but they're miserable.
	Again, short story.
	I first went to Israel in 1994, and from 1994 to 1998, I traveled to Israel many, many, many times.
	Every time I went to Israel, without exception, there was a major terrorist attack or a major incident in Lebanon, something where a lot of Israelis died.
	Biggest police state in the world.
	But I'll say this.
	The Israelis that I worked with cried when the thing happened.
	Then they got up and they went to work.
	And many of them went to work for peace.
	I said, well, how could you have peace with the Palestinians?
	They said, we have to have peace with the Palestinians.
	We have to.
	We have to find a way.
	I'm not saying that everything they did was right.
	I'm just saying that their mentality was this.
	I went back in 2010 with my wife, and we toured, I think, maybe 2009, late 2009.
	But we toured Israel.
	Changed country.
	Totally changed country.
	Fear.
	The fear that exists was palpable.
	They built a wall.
	They made a Palestinian ghetto.
	I mean, imagine you being the Israelis and the Israeli nation that claims to be born so that it never again will happen, meaning never again will the Jewish people be rounded up and put into concentration camps.
	Many of the people who created Israel were survivors of apartheid, survivors of the ghettos.
	They come in and what have they done?
	They've emulated the tactics of the Nazis.
	It's just mind-boggling.
	We got here, Trevon Suki goes, so what do puppeteers U.S. and NATO get out of this instead of making peace and entering slash maintaining trade in Russia?
	That's a good question.
	What do we get out of continuing this war?
	There's a lot of things I could think of, but I'll let you talk about it.
	Let's start and understand that NATO has been an institution looking for a mission after the end of the Cold War.
	They...
	They call themselves a defensive alliance, yet they've carried out wars of aggression against Libya, against Serbia, and in Afghanistan.
	So they're not a peaceful defensive alliance.
	They're an aggressive war-making machine, and they failed.
	We've forgotten.
	Do you remember August of 2021, what happened in August of 2021?
	Yeah.
	The American withdrawal from Kabul?
	Oh, yeah.
	That was Al.
	One of the biggest black guys in the Biden administration.
	In American history?
	Yeah.
	But it wasn't just America.
	NATO withdrew.
	And we misled NATO. We kept telling NATO that we're going to stay.
	We're doubling down.
	We're never leading.
	Remember, generals always went up to Congress saying, we can't leave Afghanistan.
	We have to fight them over there to make sure we don't fight them here.
	It's essential we stay there all the way up until the end.
	And suddenly we went, we're done.
	We're out of there.
	And the NATO's going, what?
	We've committed everything to this and you abandoned us.
	So now NATO is in a panic mode because they're questioning why they exist and they're questioning, is America a trustworthy ally?
	So ask yourself, why are we in Ukraine?
	Because we had to create a new conflict to justify the continuation of NATO to make America relevant to NATO. We needed this war.
	We made this war.
	No one else but us.
	Not to mention, we're able to test our weaponry.
	We're able to test logistics.
	We're able to test how to transport.
	There's so many benefits to the United States being in this war because it allows us to basically try everything out with not too much risk to ourselves.
	I mean, the Ukrainians are fine in the war.
	We're giving them all the supplies.
	But here's the bad thing.
	We're losing.
	Yeah, we are losing.
	I mean, we're grinding through all our stuff.
	We don't have any stuff left to give them.
	And here's the other thing, too.
	After this, I was going to ask you about how the Russians have beat us, like from a war strategy standpoint, how they've been able to beat us after this sort of continue.
	Well, no, because I'll answer it when we go.
	So we'll start with how the Russians have beat us.
	How they invaded in and how they've tactically taken land and space.
	Again, when the Russians first went into Ukraine, the special military operation.
	That's what they call it.
	I work.
	And real quick, so the people know this, because you mentioned a great tidbit earlier, which I think kind of might have got overlooked by the audience.
	You mentioned that Ukrainians had surrounded, if I'm not mistaken, Odessa, right?
	These Nazis.
	And they had a plan for March.
	And Putin invaded in February preemptively before they can invade.
	Right.
	The Ukrainians had built this NATO. That's why they invaded in February.
	This NATO-trained army that Ukraine had built up, 260,000 strong, they had moved 60,000 to 90,000 of them into the Ukrainian-occupied Donbass.
	Donbass, I'm sorry.
	And they were getting ready to launch an invasion to kick, to take over the rest of Donbass in March.
	And that's why Putin invaded in February, because he had that intelligence and knew they were going to do that.
	So for everybody thinking like, what the hell did he do?
	He had to.
	The first phase, though, as I said, was to get the Ukrainians back to the negotiating table.
	Oh, this military operation when they invaded.
	Right, when they invaded.
	It wasn't designed to kill Zelensky, to capture Kiev, to do this.
	It was an invasion designed to put pressure on Ukraine to get them to negotiate, and it worked.
	Now, they signed—remember I told you they initialed that document?
	Yeah.
	What did the Russians do when the Ukrainians initialed the document?
	Yeah.
	They withdrew from Kiev.
	They withdrew from Asumi, from Genev.
	They pulled back because it was a good faith measure because they were trying to convince...
	They told Zelensky, we're serious.
	We don't want to occupy your territory.
	So you signed it in a good faith gesture.
	We're going to pull back.
	Western media didn't report that.
	No, they said Russians are retreating.
	Yeah.
	And so that's why Boris Johnson came in and said...
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Got to keep this war going.
	See, the Russians are retreating.
	And the Ukrainians are like, well, they sort of promised.
	Shh!
	The Russians are retreating.
	You've beaten them.
	We're going to give you more weapons and we're going to get you back on track to retake the Donbass.
	So now the Ukrainians are stuck in a war.
	The Russians, meanwhile, are going, damn it, now what do we do?
	Because we thought we were going to have this negotiated settlement.
	So Russia said, okay, we're going to go to phase two.
	Phase two was to take over the Donbass, secure their position in Kerosene and Zaporizhia, the land bridge connecting Russia with Crimea.
	And that's all they wanted.
	Is there a map that shows this by chance?
	So we can show people visually that you could think of?
	Maybe we could pull it up on Google?
	Yeah.
	I mean, if you just Google...
	Oh...
	Ukraine...
	Ukraine...
	Rybar...
	Type in Ukraine map.
	And we'll pull it up so we can give the people a visual.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So they start this, and this is where Wagner becomes a big player now, because now Wagner's told to expand their force into a division-sized unit to...
	And for the audience, Wagner is a mercenary group created by one of Putin's right-hand men to kind of circumvent...
	Certain laws in place that does not allow Russian soldiers to go into Ukraine, but they had to protect their people, so that's how they were able to get around it, correct?
	If I'm not mistaken?
	No, you're right.
	Okay.
	So there's the map.
	Zoom in a bit more, Moe?
	I don't know.
	Can I... Yeah, yeah, you go.
	Yeah, point to it real quick, and then Moe will show it on the...
	All right, so...
	This is where the Russians were here.
	They pulled back...
	Okay, Mo, go up to the top where it shows Kiev.
	Put the mouse where Kiev is.
	Right there.
	Boom.
	Yep.
	And then, okay, so that's Kiev right there.
	And then grab your mic real quick, Scott, and then kind of a...
	So they pulled back here and here.
	They still had their forces down here.
	And then down in this area here...
	I don't think the people could see.
	But the point is, in the east, the Russians had...
	Now they were going to be pushing west more.
	And so they started this war, but they didn't have enough troops.
	Yeah, there you go.
	They didn't have enough troops.
	This was the problem.
	They started the war with only 180,000 to 200,000 troops.
	Okay.
	So now they didn't get the peace treaty they wanted.
	But here's the deal.
	See, you and I talked about sanctions.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, Putin didn't really know what the impact was.
	He was still worried about sanctions.
	Like, what is the impact on his economy?
	Back in 2014.
	No, no, no.
	2022.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Because people are, you know, the big question people have is, well, why did he go in with so few troops?
	Hmm.
	Well, because his goal wasn't to occupy, invade.
	His goal was to intimidate into a peace treaty.
	But now that NATO said, no, we're going to give you tens of billions of dollars of equipment, you know, the Russians now had to fight a war.
	So they began fighting this war to secure...
	The Donbass, to take control of all the Donbass and secure this land bridge to Crimea.
	And that is, Donbass is northeast.
	Right.
	It's the north part of Ukraine.
	Then you go down across the Sea of Azov, down to Crimea.
	Yeah.
	So they're...
	Real quick, Mo, and highlight that area for the people so they kind of understand.
	But Kenton, you can keep talking while he pulls it up.
	So that becomes phase two of the operation.
	But he didn't enlarge the army.
	And this is the problem.
	And people say, well, why didn't he?
	Well, there's two reasons why.
	Because he was concerned about the economy.
	The sanctions were hurting.
	He had a plan to counter it, but the fear was that sanctions could cause up to a 20-25% contraction of the economy, which means you'd have unemployment, you'd have internal unrest, etc.
	Now if you mobilize, have a draft, That can also cause...
	Remember Vietnam War?
	People resisted.
	So what he didn't want to do is create the conditions for internal unrest.
	Because many people in Russia hadn't bought into why he invaded.
	They're like, why did you go in?
	Especially now, it didn't work.
	Now we have a war.
	And so...
	His army's moving, advancing, advancing, and he's destroying the Ukrainian army.
	Remember that 260,000 troops that were there?
	He killed about half of them in this part of the fighting.
	The guys that tried to invade that area, he preemptively got rid of half of them.
	But NATO's rebuilding the Ukrainian army.
	And now Putin's got a problem.
	He has this long front, but he didn't have enough men.
	When we say 180,000, understand, first of all, the frontage is, let's just say it's 1,000 kilometers, it's more than that.
	But that means 180 men per kilometer.
	But 180 men isn't right, because you have people, not everybody's a frontline soldier.
	You only have 60,000 frontline soldiers.
	That's 60 men per kilometer.
	But now, other places you're going to have more.
	In some areas, you only had 30 to 40 men per kilometer.
	30 to 40 minutes to defend a kilometer.
	How much do you normally need?
	Normally you need around 200, 300.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	All right.
	In depth.
	One line of defense, second line of defense, third line of defense, reserves, all that.
	So they're operating on like 20% of what they should be.
	Right.
	Thinly manned.
	So now this big new NATO army comes in and they shoot the gap.
	You have these guys thinly manned.
	They shoot the gap.
	They get into the rear.
	They push the Russians back.
	The Russians opted.
	Rather than do what they call the hedgehog defense, which is dig in, get surrounded, fight, kill a lot of Ukrainians, but die.
	The Russians said, nope, everybody back, retreat, come to this river, dig in, create a new line of defense.
	And they did that.
	And they killed a lot of Ukrainians in the process.
	But this was the big, remember the Ukrainian big counteroffensive that took over Kharkov and then took over Kherson.
	Everybody's going, oh, the Ukrainians are winning, the Ukrainians are winning.
	Not really.
	The Russians consolidated their defenses, and now Putin then said...
	So it was their mistake for coming in with not enough men, because they were hoping that that would get them to the table.
	It was a huge mistake to come in with not enough men.
	But now Putin was liberated into mobilizing.
	So now Putin orders the mobilization of 300,000 men.
	He then also, they get volunteers, about 150,000 other volunteers, and he starts expanding the military.
	And the bottom line is they went from 180,000 to about 400, 450,000 right now is what they have.
	And these guys are dug in, well-trained, well-equipped.
	The Russian economy is working.
	They're producing tanks.
	They're producing missiles.
	Everybody's saying, the Russians are going to run out of ammunition.
	Run out of ammunition.
	Russians will never run out of ammunition.
	Their defense industry is just churning it out.
	And so, that's the army he's created.
	They destroyed that second army.
	The third army has been rebuilt.
	That's the one launching the counteroffensive now.
	It's being destroyed.
	This is the one we gave the Leopard 2 tank.
	Remember, the Leopard 2 was supposed to be the game-winning tank, game-changer, modern Western technology?
	They're all burning right now.
	The Russians killed them that quick.
	The Russians have supremacy.
	Look, In the lead-up to the Gulf War, one of my jobs was to plan the Marine combat breaching operation of Iraqi defensive lines.
	And I did it using a supercomputer called the Janus computer.
	Long story short, I built the terrain map, I populated with the Iraqis, and then I populated with the Marines, and then I, with the computer, gave them different capabilities based upon their training, their weaponry, and things of that nature.
	And then we'd run the simulation.
	And at first, the Iraqis killed all of us.
	So we kept gaming, figuring out what we had to do to get the Marines to advance.
	And it came down to that we had to have a lot of air power, blow the hell out of the Iraqis.
	We had to have a lot of artillery to suppress them.
	We had to have a lot of weapon systems suppressing them before we could advance in, breach the fields, move forward.
	The Ukrainians right now don't have any air power.
	How can you attack when you have no air power?
	The answer is you can't.
	The Ukrainians don't have sufficient artillery.
	How can you attack when you don't have that?
	They have no air defense, which means Russian helicopters have a field day on the battlefield.
	We're slaughtering the Ukrainians before they even get to the first line.
	The Russians are slaughtering the Ukrainians before they get to the first line of defense.
	They have no chance.
	This is murder, mass murder that's taking place today, and yet we continue to push the Ukrainians to attack.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because, as I said, it's about East European manpower with NATO technology to bring pain.
	But are they even bringing pain anymore?
	Well, 1,300 dead Russians is pain.
	Okay.
	Imagine America taking that casualties.
	Yeah.
	Imagine in two and a half months we had 1,300 body bags coming home.
	But is it worth the cost?
	No, because Russia, again, remember I talked about my uncle staring down at me?
	Yeah.
	The Russians have 27 million people staring down at them, saying, never forget your history.
	You can't outpain a nation that suffered 27 million dead.
	No, I mean, is it worth it for the Ukrainians because they're losing?
	Like, yeah, they killed 1,300 Russians, but for the cost of 350,000 Ukrainians?
	No, of course it's not worth it for the Ukrainians, but the Ukrainians have lost control of their destiny.
	They're totally, you know...
	The U.S. is 100%.
	We are dictating everything.
	Yeah.
	And why does the U.S. care?
	Because it's not our soldiers.
	We want to bring down Russia.
	I mean, look, let's look what happened to Evgeny Prigozhin, all right, Wagner Group.
	Wagner Group was created, we talked about, in 2014.
	In 2022, May 2022, they were given a $940 million contract from the Ministry of Defense to create a division-sized unit to help recapture the Donbass.
	At that time, Lugansk and Donetsk were independent territories, so legally, Wagner could exist.
	In September, they held a referendum in those territories, Lugansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporizhia, and they Annex those territories.
	They became Russia.
	Now you have a legal problem, because by law, a private military company can't exist on Russian soil.
	Wagner now became an illegal organization.
	But they had a contract with the Ministry of Defense for one year, and the Ministry of Defense said, we will honor that contract.
	But on 1 May, you have to become part of the Ministry of Defense.
	Pogosian said no.
	He was making money.
	He said, this is my business.
	So Prigozhin began a PR campaign elevating the status of Wagner in the minds of the Russian people, how he made a movie called Best in Hell, a full-screen movie, propaganda winning the Russians over, telling them that we're the strongest warriors, we're the best warriors.
	Wagner's pretty good.
	But he's also saying that the Russians suck.
	The Russian leadership sucks.
	They're bad.
	We're the only good ones there are.
	We're the ones that put him in power in the first place.
	Yeah, he forgot that.
	So now the Russians are saying, no way we're renewing this contract.
	So when it ended, they pulled him out of Bakhmut.
	They sent him back to the barracks.
	They said, sign the contract or you're done.
	And he said, no, I'm going to instead march on Moscow and capture Shoigu and those guys and make them give me the contract.
	What the hell?
	Yeah, no, this was all about greed, pure greed.
	So he went on the road and Putin's like, what are you doing?
	And he said, I'm coming for Shoigu.
	And he said, no, this is treason.
	Now, people think that Prigozhin's a strong guy with Wagner.
	Let me tell you what happened.
	Putin put 2,500 Russian special forces outside of Serpikov, which is a town south of Moscow, and they dug in.
	And when the lead Wagner elements came in, they were told, if you come one step more, we're going to kill you all.
	Mm-hmm.
	And to prove it, they brought in a helicopter and they blew up a car.
	Now, Wagner shot down a number of Russian helicopters, killed 12 Russian airmen.
	That's murder, by the way, because Wagner has no right to do what they're doing.
	Meanwhile, Prigozhin's down in Rostov.
	10,000 Chechen Ahmad fighters working for Russia surround the city and send the message into Prigozhin.
	You're going to die tonight.
	We're coming in.
	We're going to kill you.
	We're going to kill all of Wagner.
	If you don't give up.
	So Wagner gave up.
	They came back.
	They disbanded.
	They no longer exist.
	Chechnyans don't fuck around.
	They don't fuck around.
	I spent some time in Chechnya.
	It was pretty cool.
	Still Muslim.
	A Muslim majority country.
	Very Islamic.
	Very...
	I mean, they live accordance to the faith, but they live in peace and harmony with the Russian Orthodox.
	When you go to Grozny, which has been totally rebuilt, it was the most destroyed city in the world in 2002.
	Today, it is this city.
	You almost think you're in Las Vegas.
	There's so many lights going on and the beauty of it, mosques, churches.
	The Russians and the Chechens live in peace and harmony.
	Americans don't want to hear it because we always talk about how bad Putin is.
	Putin is loved in Chechnya.
	Everywhere you go, his portrait is everywhere.
	They adore him.
	They also adore Ahmad Kadyrov, the father of Ramzan Kadyrov, the current president, because he made peace with Putin.
	And together they work to rebuild Chechnya.
	And today Chechnya is just this wonderful...
	Republic, I would encourage everybody when all this war is to visit.
	They went out there because they have a huge fighter community there.
	Oh, God!
	The MMA community out there is unreal.
	There's some of the best MMA fighters coming out of there.
	I talked about the...
	That's all they do.
	No distractions, no booze, no women, just train, fight.
	I went to their Spetsnaz Academy and got to watch them train.
	And then they gave me the honor of...
	I mean, this is a weird thing, but I was...
	In Dagestan.
	No, in Chechnya.
	Yeah, Chechnya, yeah.
	And I was...
	They assembled the presidential...
	No, I'm saying and Dagestan.
	Oh, and Dagestan, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They assembled the presidential guard, the Akhmat Special Forces, for me.
	Oh, wow.
	And I got to inspect them and meet all their commanders.
	And all that stuff.
	It was just the weirdest moment of my life because I'm an American.
	Yeah.
	And I'm there, but they respect me as a Marine.
	They respect me as a warrior.
	They respect me as a man of honor and integrity.
	And so they did that.
	I have nothing but respect for these people.
	And again, it's a beautiful...
	And Chechnya is a part of Russia, right?
	Is it like a state?
	Would it be like a functional equivalent of like a Texas for us?
	It's like Texas.
	It's a former...
	They call it a republic.
	Mm-hmm.
	Ramzan Kadyrov is the leader, but they are part of the Russian Federation, and they're fighting today as part of the Russian Federation.
	They have Russian passports.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They speak Russian, the whole deal.
	They are proud to be part of Russia, too.
	That's why they're in Ukraine.
	Kadyrov was one of the first guys.
	He said, no, we can't, because what Kadyrov knows...
	Chechnya back in the 1990s and early 2000s, trying to split Chechnya from Russia as part of the program to destroy Russia.
	He knows what happened.
	He's seen it before.
	He lived it.
	And he knows if you work with Russia, look, you rebuilt this republic.
	It's so beautiful, so modern, so wonderful.
	You got to see it to believe it.
	And so they see what the CIA is doing in Ukraine.
	They say, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	We're not going to let that happen.
	So they're actually going to Ukraine to save Ukraine from the CIA. Yeah.
	Because the Chechens know the truth.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they were definitely targeted because of their strong...
	And they're all MMA fighters.
	I just want to reiterate that.
	Every one of those Chechen special forces guys I met...
	Yeah.
	They could kick my butt.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Of course.
	They're all fighters, man.
	They're just studs.
	You just look at them going, wow, all you do is train.
	Yeah, that's all they do.
	They train.
	They're religious.
	They don't do drugs.
	They don't drink alcohol.
	It's all forbidden in the Islamic religion.
	They don't womenize.
	Yeah.
	All the things that Americans are around doing, chasing women, drinking.
	They've got two or three wives, which is fine.
	There is that, but they're faithful to their wives, and they're family people.
	The family orientation is unreal, and they're the most loyal friends you could ever...
	They're also the worst enemy you could ever have.
	In America, we talk about the Hatfields and McCoys, the blood feuds.
	Chechens got blood feuds if you cross their family the wrong way.
	Gotcha.
	They're going to get you.
	Absolutely.
	And they have the religion on their side, so they're going to go super hard.
	It's one thing to fight someone who's a paid mercenary or whatever.
	It's another thing to fight someone who believes that they are there on God's will to fight you on God's will.
	You can't.
	It's different.
	The only way you beat that is to kill them, and even then you don't beat them.
	As I drove through Chechnya, you had the cemeteries.
	Yeah.
	And on certain graves, there were these sticks with a flag flying on it.
	And the meaning of this was that was an unavenged death.
	That he's in the ground, but the death has yet to be avenged.
	I mean, somebody's got to die.
	Of course.
	That's crazy that they label it that way.
	You're going, one, two, three.
	There's a whole bunch of unevented steps out there, man.
	Goddamn.
	Mo, you had a question, right?
	Real quick, hit him with the question.
	It was something pretty good on language.
	Yes, I did.
	It was regards to Russia's growth.
	And I was wondering, is this why there are an amount of extra countries in Eastern Europe and Asian countries being fluent in Russian language?
	Is that a result of the growth or is it maybe the language learning from all these other countries being so fluent in Russian?
	Is a result of Russia's growing?
	Or is it the other way around?
	It's the other way around.
	The spread of the Russian language is because Russia occupied these territories for a while.
	I mean, after World War II, Russia occupied East Germany.
	They occupied Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, the whole thing.
	Also, the eastward expansion of Russia.
	You know, into Tartaria, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, going up to the Buryatia in Lake Baikal and elsewhere.
	So all these Muslim and Buddhist peoples learn to speak Russian as well.
	But the other thing I'll say is that the Russians are...
	Very good at, not assimilating, of peaceful coexistence.
	So in America, we sort of have this thing where we say, if you want to be an American, you've got to become an American.
	You've got to change.
	And the Russians are like, no, we respect who you are.
	Like with the Chechens.
	They're not telling the Chechens you've got to become Russian.
	Or become Christian or anything like that.
	They're saying, you are who you are.
	Kazan, one of the most beautiful cities in the world, Kazan.
	It's the capital of Tatarstan, a predominantly Muslim territory.
	Again, beautiful, peaceful coexistence, orthodoxy coexisting next to Islam.
	No problems whatsoever.
	Not like America.
	I'm not going to say there's no crime.
	Of course, there's crime everywhere you go.
	But I'll tell you what, there wasn't a Russian city that I walked around in at night where I felt at risk.
	That doesn't mean that I wasn't.
	It doesn't mean that there couldn't be a drunk guy, there couldn't be a criminal.
	Of course.
	It's everywhere.
	But I'm just telling you that the society there is...
	Very civil, very peaceful.
	I was going to say, what is your response to people that say that Russia is nothing more than a gas station, has the economy of Italy?
	That's a common criticism about Russia's world power capabilities, saying that they have dated military, they're not as advanced as people say.
	What's your response to that?
	Well, let's just start with the concept of Russia as a gas station disguised as a nation.
	I think John McCain said that and some other people said that too.
	Well, if you're going to say that, then don't be the Humvee on a superhighway in the middle of nowhere that ran out of gas.
	Because the Russians know energy better than we do.
	That's why Europe sucks right now.
	Because they cut themselves off of Russian energy and they have no alternative.
	cheap Russian gas.
	The Americans come in, they're friends, by the way, and we're charging them five to seven times the amount of price for gas that the Russians were giving them.
	This is why the European economy is in collapse.
	So first of all, if you're going to mock them, make sure you keep perspective.
	Don't be the Humvee on the superhighway in the middle of nowhere that ran out of gas.
	Because suddenly being a gas station looks pretty good.
	Two, there's a thing called, it's PPP, Parity Purchasing Power, I think is the term.
	What that means is, so in the United States, we tend to skew things to our benefit.
	We talk about gross national product.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's fine.
	So in America, let's, again, I'm just going to be oversimplified here.
	$100, gross national product.
	Okay, and we go, and the Russians, they only make $10.
	Okay, that's fine, Scott.
	Go to the supermarket.
	And buy a basket of food.
	Well, it's going to cost you $70.
	But in Russia, the same basket of food is only going to cost you $3.12.
	Suddenly, that economy size doesn't matter, does it?
	Because the purchasing power of the Russian economy is far greater than that.
	So when they say it's the economy the size of Italy, wrong.
	Russia can accomplish so much more with its economy because the cost of living is high.
	Inflation isn't through the roof.
	3% as opposed to 8%.
	Yeah.
	So...
	You got to understand Russia's economy before you start making those things.
	That's the problem with people like John McCain.
	Well, he's dead now, so it doesn't matter.
	But Lindsey Graham and others, the people who say that just don't understand the reality of the Russian economy.
	They can't produce equipment.
	There was a video out.
	The newest Russian tank is the T-90 assault breaker tank.
	All the bells and whistles designed to beat NATO and everything.
	It did an attack on the Ukrainian lines, and there's a drone up there filming it.
	It got hit 19 times.
	19 times by Ukrainian tank fire, RPG fire, anti-tank missile fire.
	19 times.
	Still going.
	Wow.
	Leopard tank.
	That's the German tank that...
	Wonderful.
	Comes in, gets hit with one Lancet drone, blows up and burns.
	The Russians have been preparing for a war with NATO now for over 20 years.
	Every piece of equipment they make has been designed to defeat NATO, NATO's equipment.
	What has NATO been doing for the last 20 years?
	Practicing to kill Afghan wedding parties and kicking down the doors of Iraqi villagers.
	That's what we've been doing.
	And we haven't been practicing to fight the Russians.
	Yeah.
	Is that why we're so excited to be engaged with them now through the proxy war of Ukraine?
	Well, I mean, I think we might have been excited early on thinking we could win.
	But General Cavoli, the commander of U.S. forces in Europe today, Supreme Allied Commander, he spoke to a Swedish forum in January, defense forum, and he said, the scope and scale of the violence that's taking place in Ukraine today is beyond the imagination of NATO. Now, that's an important thing to say because When you do a training thing, you're training to that which you can imagine.
	You're preparing for that which you are conceptualizing.
	So if the violence, the scale of violence is beyond your imagination, it means you haven't trained for this, you're not equipped for this, you're not ready for this.
	And that's the fact.
	NATO cannot fight Russia today and when.
	That's a straight-up statement of fact.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It looks like we got an updated app here.
	So Mo's going to show it on screen here.
	Go ahead, Mo.
	You can pull it up.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	So is there anything that you wanted to point out specifically, Scott?
	And thank you, Ryan Dawson, for this one.
	Oh, Ryan Dawson said that?
	Okay.
	But, I mean, this is what we're talking about.
	This is Crimea.
	This is what we call the land bridge.
	Kherson, Zaporizhia areas.
	This is Donetsk.
	This is Lugansk.
	You see the dotted line here is what the normal Republic of Donetsk is.
	The green part is what the Russians occupied.
	I mean, so the fighting today is roughly along this line here.
	Coming down here.
	And what the Russians are trying to do today is just advance to capture the totality of these territories.
	That's all that Putin has talked about.
	Okay, can you highlight that bottom right corner, Mo?
	That's basically what they're trying to capture there.
	Is that what you're talking about, Scott?
	Yeah, this area here.
	They're just trying to...
	All the way down to Kyrsten, right?
	No, no, no, no.
	Most of your fighting right now is taken right here from Zaporizhia.
	Zaporizhia, okay.
	Highlight that area more?
	Yeah, okay.
	That's where most of the fighting is going on right now?
	Yeah.
	The Zaporizhia Front is where the big counteroffensive is taking place, and then Donetsk is the other area.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And where's the Dunbar region that you were mentioning before, where they had soldiers set up and had to preemptively invade?
	Well, Donetsk is the capital of the Donetsk Republic, and Lugansk is the capital of Lugansk.
	Lugansk and Donetsk, these two republics, this is considered to be the Donbass right here.
	Okay.
	So, Mo, it's that entire region, like, on the right corner, pretty much.
	Yeah, like that.
	Yeah.
	Up a little bit bigger with the circle.
	Yeah, that, like, area right there.
	Bam.
	Perfect.
	Yep.
	That's it, Mo.
	Yeah, that's the area that...
	Okay.
	So that's where Zelensky had about a quarter million soldiers staged and Putin preemptively stopped them.
	There was a...
	Planning for March, you said, right?
	And then Putin invaded...
	There was a missile attack just the other day in a town called...
	A city called Kramatorsk, I think it was.
	The restaurant that got hit, the pizzeria.
	Yeah.
	And the video that's showing, you've got a bunch of mercenaries, a bunch of American, British, Canadian guys in uniform.
	They're trying to dig bodies out.
	It was the staging area of the 56th Motorized Rifle Battalion.
	But that city, Kramogorsk, is the city that was the heart of the Ukrainian buildup to lead the attack into Domas.
	Gotcha.
	Question for you.
	What do you think in your professional training experience from what you've seen, understanding how war works and how this...
	I mean, we went through the entire history, guys, so make sure to check him out on Twitter.
	His links are all below, man.
	Literally an encyclopedia.
	You and Ryan Dawson are encyclopedias with this stuff.
	I learned so much.
	What do you predict is going to happen in the next six months to a year with this conflict?
	If the conflict continues...
	At this rate, the Ukrainian military is probably going to collapse sometime late summer, early fall.
	There's just no way Ukraine can continue this fight.
	Of this summer, this year?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Now, there's no guarantee on that outcome because, again, I just point out that, you know, even though the Ukrainians lost 13,000 dead, the Russians lost 1,300.
	Yeah.
	That's big pain.
	It is, yeah.
	I have a feeling, though, that the Russians aren't going to throttle down, that they will throttle up.
	And I also think the Russians understand that time is not their friend.
	The Russians?
	You're saying time isn't French for the Russians or the Ukrainians?
	For the Russians.
	Because if they can't seal the deal on the defeat of the Ukrainian army, this war runs the risk of becoming what they call a frozen war.
	Like the Korean War with a demilitarized zone that will be a forever conflict, that will be a forever drain on Russia.
	Okay.
	I thought Russia had time because they have the resources and the manpower and Well, I mean, Russia is a big country with resources right now, but if the West ever gets its act together and starts mobilizing its defense industry so that it can perpetually supply Ukraine, and Ukraine shows a tolerance for casualties.
	Remember, Ukraine is a nation of, you know, 40 million people.
	There's more people to kill.
	There's a potential that you could exhaust Russia.
	Not that Russia would lose, but that Russia would eventually have to sue for peace because it can't sustain.
	So I think there's pressure on Russia to bring an end to this conflict sooner rather than later.
	But Russia's not going to do it in a way that generates high casualties.
	Okay.
	Russia doesn't want...
	Damn.
	So that kind of...
	Okay.
	Russia doesn't want to...
	High casualties on their part.
	No, no.
	Of course.
	That's what I mean.
	Yeah.
	They want to kill as many Ukrainians as possible.
	Yeah.
	As long as they want to die, Russia's going to help them die.
	Yeah.
	But the Russians don't want to do it in a way that...
	Increases their casualties.
	So a lot of people are like, well, why aren't the Russians attacking?
	Why aren't they being aggressive?
	I just answered the question, guys.
	Because to be aggressive in the face of an enemy that can still mount the Ukrainians as much as they're dying, they're still lethal.
	They killed 1,300 Russians.
	So when you see those videos on TV that everybody searches that show the Ukrainians breaking into a Russian trench line and killing Russians, yeah, that's war, guys.
	There's a video of that.
	Oh, yeah.
	On Twitter?
	Twitter, Telegram.
	But the point is, war is hell.
	And it's a two-way street.
	People are dying on both sides.
	It's just that more Ukrainians are dying than Russians.
	But this isn't like the Russians are sitting back playing Call of Duty and killing.
	This is bloody.
	This is horrible.
	This is horrific.
	Let me ask you this.
	I think I know the answer to this, but for the people out there, right?
	Why hasn't Russia just...
	Airstrike them to fucking hell.
	And then done what we did with Iraq.
	Airstrike them to hell, have the ground troops come in, clean up.
	Why haven't they done that?
	Well, they're going to.
	They're moving in that direction.
	But here's the thing that people, again, Putin's talking points.
	You're a Putin puppet, Ritter.
	But if you scratch a Russian, you get a Ukrainian.
	If you scratch a Ukrainian, you get a Russian.
	These are both Slavic peoples.
	There's a huge Ukrainian diaspora in Russia.
	Every city has thousands of Ukrainians.
	Every Russian has a Ukrainian relative.
	The Russian military, if you're a rank colonel and higher, you went to school with Ukrainian officers who were Soviet officers at the time.
	These are your brothers.
	So the Russians are at war with themselves.
	I'll give you an example.
	It comes from Wagner.
	The Wagner group fighting in Bakhmut.
	They surrounded a group of Ukrainian soldiers and they shouted out, brothers, surrender!
	Surrender and you can live!
	These are Ukrainian soldiers.
	You know what the Ukrainian soldiers shouted back?
	What?
	Russians don't surrender.
	That's from World War II. Wow.
	That was a shout that a Russian soldier gave to the Germans when they said, surrender.
	He said, Russians don't surrender.
	He had a grenade and he blew himself up.
	Wow.
	And these guys fought to the death.
	These are Ukrainian soldiers fighting Russians, saying, Russians don't surrender.
	Wow.
	You know, we talk about how tough the Russians are.
	The Ukrainians are just as tough.
	They're the same people.
	It's the same people, with the exception of these Western Ukrainian Nazis who The rest of Ukrainians are Russians.
	Yeah.
	That's something that no one wants to admit, though.
	They don't want to talk about this.
	This is a civil war.
	And so, the idea, again...
	I agree.
	It is a civil war.
	It's like, if we're going to give an American functional equivalent, it's like Florida fighting Texas.
	Yeah.
	Well, worse.
	Florida fighting Georgia, where across the border you have families traveling together, or Alabama, where people vacation in Florida, you vacation in Mobile, and your cousin was from...
	That's the functional equivalent for guys out here that might not understand, you know, Eastern European politics and geopolitical situations.
	That's what the equivalent would be.
	Crazy.
	This is a tragedy.
	You know, Putin said from the very beginning that he...
	Ordered his troops not to inflict unnecessary casualties on the Ukrainians.
	Not to destroy Ukrainian infrastructure.
	If we went to war, if the United States had done this, Zelensky would be dead by now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we would have airstriked him to hell.
	I already told you, one of my jobs in the Gulf War was to kill Saddam.
	All right?
	So we actively targeted him.
	I actively targeted him.
	And we blew the hell out of the Iraqi leadership.
	Yeah.
	We also blew up their bridges.
	We blew up their infrastructure.
	Russia has taken a soft approach on this one.
	They want to capture it intact.
	Well, they don't want to inflict harm, because at some point in time, this war is going to end, and then their brothers have to learn to live in what's left.
	But the longer this war goes on, the more the Russians are starting to make the pain come down.
	Because they have to pay for it at the end.
	The Russians will.
	They understand that.
	If you burn down your brother's house, eventually you have to rebuild it.
	But what the Russians now are doing is they are bringing in the air power.
	This is why Ukrainian casualties are going through the roof now, because the Russians are saying, okay, it's time that we end this.
	I was telling people this from the beginning when they said that Russia is losing the war, whatever.
	I remember like a year ago saying like, you guys do realize that if Putin wanted to, you could have airstriked Ukraine to hell and they'd be gone in 24 hours.
	But, you know, I don't know.
	People just we have the propaganda machine with the news.
	The United States is so anti Putin.
	It's ridiculous where it's like people are delusional and completely unaware of what the hell is going on.
	You know, you hear this, again, going back to Purgosian and the coup that took place.
	People are saying, well, Putin's weak because he didn't kill all the Wagner guys.
	And I'm like, Putin's strong because he didn't start a civil war.
	Putin's strong because he saved Russian lives.
	Putin's strong because he didn't promote Russian-on-Russian violence.
	Putin's strong because- Which is what NATO wants.
	Yes.
	But because Putin's strong, we have to tell lies about Putin and call him weak.
	So when Putin comes in with a special military operation that's not designed to invade, to destroy, but to generate peace.
	Remember I told you the purpose of it was to get Ukraine to the negotiating table.
	Yeah.
	We misinterpret that.
	We said he's weak.
	There ain't nothing weak about Putin and there ain't nothing weak about Russia.
	Let me ask you this, and this has been kind of contained in the U.S. media as well.
	Didn't they find biological weapons in Ukraine?
	Well...
	Contrary to the Minsk agreements?
	Well, the Minsk agreements had nothing to do with the biological...
	The biological...
	Let me put it this way.
	Or agreements that we had in place before where we said we would not encroach in Ukraine.
	Ukraine would not become a part of NATO. We wouldn't continue to encroach on Russia, and we wouldn't have biological weapons staged there.
	Yeah, here's the deal.
	When the Soviet Union collapsed...
	The former Soviet republics had nuclear weapons programs, biological weapons programs, chemical weapons programs that we needed to bring under control.
	One of the biggest fears is that when the Soviet collapsed, their economies collapsed, and you have all these scientists.
	Well, not just the weapons, but the scientists that know how to build the weapons.
	And if they don't have a job, they're going to go someplace else and do it.
	It's an enemy.
	So we had a couple programs.
	We had one program which was built upon gathering the weapons and destroying them.
	But we had another program that was built upon creating employment opportunities.
	And in Ukraine, we signed agreements with the Ukrainian government where we came in and we took over the former biological weapons labs.
	And we cleaned them up.
	The idea was to clean them up, get rid of the weapons.
	But then we had to create employment vehicles for the scientists, keep them employed.
	So we began things such as researching viruses.
	And that's normal.
	I mean, we do it.
	Right now in Florida, people are...
	We have people collecting the mosquitoes and looking at the mosquitoes to make sure they're not bringing in a new virus.
	We're trying to anticipate problems.
	And if they bring in something, then we have a lab that tries to create vaccines and all this stuff.
	So we have all this going.
	And that's how this started.
	This started with legitimate biological work.
	It's not biological warfare work.
	It's biological work.
	But then what happened is Money.
	This is corruption.
	Money corrupts everything.
	So we did this through contractors who received money, came up with an idea.
	Now they're trying to do other projects and they're getting shot down.
	But every time they came back in and said, let's build a biological lab, they got the money.
	So they started building these biological labs.
	But now you have the lab and you have to have work to do.
	In America being America, we started expanding the envelope of what was...
	In America, we contend that we don't have an offensive biological weapons program even though we produce biological agent.
	But what we say is we're producing that biological agent for defensive purposes.
	Well, once you produce a biological agent, it's a biological agent.
	You can't have it.
	Because we're America, we say, well, we know what our intent is.
	We know we're in violation of the Biological Toxin and Weapons Convention.
	That's 100% guaranteed.
	What we did in Ukraine is a violation of the treaty of that.
	Our arrogance gets in the way.
	We don't admit that we're violating it because we pretend.
	But the fact is we were producing agent that was genetically modified only to attack Russians.
	We were considering vectors that would send them from Ukraine into Russia to spread these diseases.
	Now, we'll say there was only theoretical modeling, that it was just part of our overall thing.
	But if you're the Russians looking at this, you're saying, you're preparing to launch a biological warfare attack on us.
	You're preparing for biological war.
	And the Russians are right.
	They're right to be concerned about that.
	So what we as Americans should be doing is demanding from Congress an investigation.
	We should be demanding that...
	Didn't they bring this to the UN a couple months back?
	Yeah, and the U.S. wouldn't let it be discussed.
	Wow.
	We shut it down.
	Yeah, the Russians have all the documents.
	Yeah, they're not making anything up.
	They have the treaty was Alinsky signing it like I mean there's irrefutable proof at this point.
	So if I were Congress, I would I would turn to the Department of Defense and say, are these documents true?
	I want the originals.
	We have to investigate this.
	Let's get to the bottom of this, but they're not doing it because to get to the bottom of it would be very embarrassing for the United States.
	Damn.
	All right.
	I think I definitely want to talk about...
	Oh, I'll read these chats.
	And then, guys, we're going to switch on over to Rumble because I want to talk about some more sensitive topics that we definitely can't talk about here on YouTube.
	The stuff that we discussed before.
	And like the video.
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	Like the video.
	We got over 10,000 y'all watching, by the way.
	We got like 5,000, almost 6,000 y'all here on YouTube.
	And then we got like another...
	6k on Rumble.
	So we're going to move over to Rumble here very shortly, guys, because I got some questions I want to ask and some discussions that include why the Western media hates Putin so much, which I have a theory on that, which I can't talk about on YouTube.
	Why we're going to talk about the Trump situation with...
	With, obviously, the classified documents and his foreign policy, because I definitely want to talk about why we went to war with Russia with Biden in office versus not Trump in office, and I think there's some things we want to talk about that as well.
	So, DJ Cogdill goes court-martial Mark Milley, Ryan Dawson.
	Who's Mark Miley?
	He's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	Okay, okay.
	Shout out to Ryan Dawson, by the way, man.
	The fucking homie.
	Ryan Dawson actually is who put us together, man.
	So shout out to Ryan Dawson.
	I'm going to have him on tomorrow.
	We're going to talk about 9-11.
	There you go.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Talk about getting banned.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We do that one on Rumble.
	And thank you again, Ryan, for the match.
	Yeah, thank you, Ryan, for the map, man.
	Shout out to Ryan Dawson, guys.
	Trevon Suki goes, Professor Ritter, this proxy war just sounds like sending lambs to the slaughter.
	So is West's goal just to slow down Russia in its growth?
	The Russians are making smart global moves by investing in African countries and extracting resources.
	Yeah, well, the West's goal is to destroy Russia.
	Yeah.
	And Russia is winning because their goal is to not just survive, but thrive.
	And look what he's saying.
	The Russians are...
	Can you talk real quick about some of the steps that Russia took preemptively back in 2014 when they first faced the sanctions to prepare themselves for 2022?
	I know buying gold was a big thing they did.
	Again, when I say I'm not a gold guy, it means I'm not smart enough to understand gold.
	If I was, I'd be rich.
	But the Russians understand gold.
	They understand the value of gold.
	And the Russians have spent a lot of time trying to reduce their debt load, buy gold, get sufficient gold reserves, etc.
	Turn their economy into an economy that could survive a shock from the United States if the United States tried to separate it from the global economy.
	The Russians were well positioned to survive the sanctions.
	They were better positioned.
	Look, Putin himself was surprised.
	He expected a 20% contraction in the Russian economy, and he got a 3% contraction.
	Wow.
	And today the Russian economy is growing.
	And the ruble has been going up, so you can't dispute that their economy hasn't gotten better.
	No, trust me, I was just there.
	Their economy's doing okay.
	Yeah, man.
	Thank you, Trevon.
	Good question.
	Rams goes, talk about BRICS agreement and the possible effect in the near future.
	Okay, we'll talk about that on Rumble.
	And then we got here, come on, 50 bucks, scratching the bottom of the barrel on this one.
	Conspiracies on everything.
	Everything is conspiracy.
	The Flat Earthers next.
	So I think that's critical of us.
	Okay, I guess.
	So scratching the barrel of my bottle on this one.
	So I'm the bottom of the barrel.
	I guess so.
	That's okay.
	The haters are going to hate, man.
	I mean, I'm still yet to see anyone come up with a convincing argument for a lot of the things you've said here.
	All the people that say that you're a pulling puppet.
	All right, so guys, come on over to Rumble.
	Let's throw it in the chat, Mo, real quick.
	Can you tell the people, just for the YouTube, guys, we're going to go to Rumble right now, so come on over to Rumble, rumble.com slash freshfit, because I got some stuff here that's more sensitive than I want to talk about that definitely ain't going to be safe for YouTube.
	Where can people find you real quick before we go over to the Rumble audience?
	The best way to get me is on scottriderextra.com.
	Link is below.
	That's a one-shop stop.
	There's no paywall, so you can get there.
	Everything I write is available.
	Any podcast I do that is linked is available.
	If you want to subscribe, it would be greatly appreciated, but like I said, there's no paywall.
	I'm on Twitter at TheRealScottRitter.
	And I just got back on.
	I was banned for a number of months by Elon Musk.
	But he lifted the ban.
	So thank you, Elon.
	What did they take you down for?
	Well, the one time they took me...
	I was taking down, you know, three strikes, you're out in Twitterdom.
	The first time I got taken out because I allegedly had dead-named somebody.
	Chelsea...
	Well, that's a term, I guess, for transgendered, if you use their old name.
	Chelsea Manning is somebody who has transitioned, I guess.
	But...
	Back when Chelsea was Bradley Manning, documents were filed related to the allegations of espionage, etc.
	But the documents were filed as Bradley Manning.
	So I made a reference to the legal document only in the context of the time, but I was accused of deadnaming.
	So they banned me that.
	The second time was for the Butcher Massacre, north of Kiev, the suburb.
	We'll talk about that on Rumble.
	Okay, well, the Ukrainians...
	The bottom line is I sent out a tweet that said Ukraine did it, so I was banned.
	And then the third time, I appeared on the Alex Jones show.
	And just simply by appearing on the Alex Jones show, I was banned.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Come on over to Rumble.
	He's Scott Ritter.
	This is YouTube, of course, so we're going to keep it somewhat watered down, but we're going to go to Rumble right now.
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	Alright, cool.
	We're on Rumble.
	So, Butchamasker, can you break that down for the people real quick, what it was?
	I mean, you said Ukraine was behind it, but...
	Well, let's just start with the fact that, as I told you, when the Russians first went in, their goal was to shock the Ukrainians into negotiating a peaceful...
	a peaceful solution.
	And so the Russians advanced up to the suburbs of Kiev.
	Bucha is a Northern suburb of Kiev and the Russian troops were there.
	When the Russians came in, there was vicious fighting.
	People were throwing Molotov cocktail cocktails, territorial forces in civilian clothes were manning roadblocks, et cetera.
	So when the Russian, and then people in civilian clothes were taking the Russian positions and then transmitting them to Ukrainians via telegram so that artillery would strike.
	And so the Russians captured a number of these people, found that they were violating war crimes, and they executed them, which they're allowed to do.
	I'm not justifying, I'm just saying they did that.
	So that's the civilians that the Russians killed.
	I told you that the Russians, in a good faith move, withdrew voluntarily.
	So in the end of March, they withdrew from the Bucha area.
	There were elements of people there, spoke Russian, ethnic Russians, who were nervous when the Russians left, so they were trying to follow the Russians.
	Behind the Russians came Ukrainian police units.
	Nazis.
	The Safari unit.
	The Kraken unit.
	And they said we're going to...
	And you can say whatever you want to say.
	We're on Rumble, so...
	They said we're going to ethnically...
	Well, not ethnically.
	What they said is we're going to...
	We have a cleansing operation in place.
	On their webpage, they said, everybody stay home.
	Stay indoors.
	If you hear shooting, don't panic.
	We have a cleansing operation against Russian collaborators and traitors.
	And...
	The cleansing was against the people who were trying to make it to the Russian lines.
	People who were wearing the white armbands that says...
	Ah, the fucking neo-Nazis again.
	No, the white armbands are the guys saying we're sympathetic to Russia.
	Don't shoot me, Russia.
	Oh, okay, okay, okay.
	So they're coming to the Russians with the white armbands.
	But it was the Nazis that were coming to kill them.
	The Nazis killed them.
	Gunned them down in the streets.
	These are guys that were carrying Russian...
	Food packages.
	They had their white armbands.
	They're slaughtered.
	Everybody knew what was going on.
	You had a Ukrainian politician from Bucha bragging about it.
	You had a video of the safari unit, a guy named the boatswain.
	There's a video where they say, hey, look, they're not wearing the Ukrainian things.
	Can we shoot them?
	He said, kill them.
	And they're shooting them.
	So we know the Ukrainians did it.
	But the British came in and said, no, no, no, we're going to use this as propaganda.
	We have to flip the script because we need to generate angst and anger because you just walked away from a peace treaty in Istanbul.
	And we don't want people talking about why you walked away from the peace treaty.
	We want people talking about how evil the Russians are.
	So Butchia became the symbol of evil Russia that was used to justify not making peace and used to justify the providing billions of dollars in assistance.
	Butchia is a lie.
	The Ukrainians killed the people.
	The Russians did not.
	Bam.
	Man, I have a I talked about this with Ryan Dawson.
	I want to get your take on it.
	Because I've always wondered why the Western media hates Putin so much.
	They demonize him.
	They make him out to be a terrible person, etc.
	Which, of course, every person that is in power has blood on their hands to some degree.
	You're always going to have to do something to get to power in the first place, right?
	But what I've realized, and I think Ryan's probably in the chat here, and of course you're going to agree to disagree here.
	What I've been told with these discussions is that when Putin took power in the 90s, or after the Soviet Union collapse, he got rid of certain oligarchs, right?
	And he got rid of the oligarchs that had other countries' interests in mind, if you know what I mean.
	I'm talking Zionists, etc., These guys left, maybe they went to Ukraine, went back to Israel, whatever it may be, and the United States.
	And then we know that the media in the United States is run by certain people, right?
	And those people have a vested interest in demonizing Putin because he kicked out a lot of these Zionist oligarchs.
	What's your take on that?
	Do you agree?
	Disagree?
	Some true to it, not.
	Well, what I'll say is this, that the United States had a system of controlling Russia in the 1990s built around Boris Yeltsin and his ability to be manipulated.
	He was a weak man, an alcoholic.
	He was the former president of Russia.
	He was also corrupt as the day is long.
	A lot of the oligarchs in Russia were Jewish.
	But I don't view that as a conspiracy, I just view that as a statement of fact.
	They were Jewish.
	Look, Israeli-American interests often coincide.
	Not all the time, but a lot of times they do.
	Especially when it comes to economic exploitation of Russia, there was a lot of coinciding there.
	Don't forget also that...
	Is it true that Putin got rid of most of them?
	Well, he did crack down.
	What happened, too, is during the 1990s, almost two million Russian and Ukrainian Jews went to Israel and changed the makeup of Israel.
	So there's connectivity all over the place there.
	When Putin came in, he threatened all of that because what Putin was going to do is make Russia for Russia.
	He was tired of having Russia have its resources stripped away by other entities, including oligarchs that had economic interests in the United States and Europe and Israel and elsewhere.
	Controversial take on this.
	People don't like Nick Fuentes, but he always says America first.
	Well, if you're going to be—and this is why he gets criticized so much— If you're going to be America, you cannot be a Zionist and then also say America first.
	I agree.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Because if you're a Zionist, then obviously your interest is in the self-preservation of Israel, which is cool.
	That's fine.
	But you can't sit there and say that you're a patriot at the same time because a lot of the times...
	A lot of times our interests don't necessarily always coincide.
	And I'll argue that we've done things here in the United States for the benefit of Israel, where we didn't necessarily derive the same level of benefit, but we put in way more resources, way more effort.
	And saying shit like this on YouTube will get you canceled, which is crazy.
	But you cannot be a Zionist while simultaneously saying you're an American patriot.
	It's one of the two.
	It's split loyalties.
	Yeah, split loyalties.
	My freshman year in college...
	But they'll call you an anti-Semitic for saying that, which I think is wild.
	My freshman roommate in college was a guy who had just finished doing his military service in Israel.
	And I had just left the U.S. Army.
	And so I'm sitting there going, you know, I didn't disrespect his fact.
	He made a decision, but he kept trying to tell me that he's an American.
	I said, you're not an American.
	He said, you were in the Israeli Army.
	You're an Israeli.
	You want to hear something else interesting?
	You know this because you had a clearance.
	If you have a clearance, in the United States, you cannot hold two different citizenships.
	Unless you have an Israeli passport.
	Israel's the only country they'll let you do that for?
	And England.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I had a TS when I was with Homeland.
	You probably had SEI? Yeah.
	Okay.
	And they let you hold the second passport if it's Israel?
	Well, Israel, no, it's don't ask, don't tell.
	Okay.
	With England, if you had, if you were, to give you an example, Fiona Hill.
	England makes sense because it's part of the Five Eyes, but Israel?
	Israel, they...
	To this day, you can still have...
	Oh, I don't know about to this day.
	Okay.
	I don't know about to this day.
	I think, because when I got my clearance, I got my clearance in 2010, and then I re-upped it all the way up to 2020.
	And when I was going through for a TS, I don't know, it was like you can't have a citizenship with any other country.
	So I look at it like even the American government understands that if you're America first, you're America first.
	So you can't have another country's passport.
	So maybe in the 90s it was different.
	I don't know.
	Or 80s.
	Oh, 80s.
	Sorry.
	Although the 80s is a time of Pollard, Jonathan Pollard, the guy who...
	The man who stole secrets and sold them to Israel.
	No one talks about one of the worst American breaches ever.
	They say Robert Hansen was one of the worst.
	A disgraced FBI agent for some of you guys.
	He actually died two weeks ago.
	That sold secrets to the Russians.
	Nobody cared.
	He sold secrets to the Russians.
	Obviously reprehensible.
	However, Pollard way worse than Pollard gave what we call the crown jewels, which was basically, in the intelligence business...
	And his handler was Israeli intelligence.
	Yeah, working in the embassy and the whole thing.
	He was an Israeli military officer running Pollard.
	And he's in Israel right now.
	Because we let him go.
	What he gave away, in the intelligence business...
	Frequencies are some of the most sensitive things, you know, because if you find a frequency that people are talking on and you break the code, you can't let anybody know that you did that or else they'll change frequencies, change the code.
	And so what Pollard has was the book of all the things that we did accomplished in that area against the Soviets, against everybody.
	And he gave it to the Israelis.
	Then the Israelis sold it to the Russians.
	Yes.
	To get Jewish Russians out.
	Yep.
	And so the Russians then now found out what we can do.
	99% of Americans don't even know who this guy is.
	No.
	Pollard betrayed America.
	He's a traitor to the United States of America.
	And I'll just tell you right now.
	Would you say he's the most damaging spy in U.S. history?
	No.
	In order to make that definitive statement, I'd have to know everything that was out there.
	I would say that based upon what he was accused of doing and based upon what I think I understand of what he gave, that's not an unreasonable assertion.
	I think he was worse than Hansen.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hansen was...
	But they went after Hansen because he did it for the Russians.
	Yeah.
	Anna Montez, the Cubans, right?
	They went after her as well.
	She got out of prison recently as well.
	But Cuba isn't as bad as Russia.
	I mean, Cubans are middlemen nine out of ten times.
	They get the intelligence and they sell it to all our enemies.
	Everybody.
	But yeah, Hanson, they...
	Pollard was bad news.
	Yeah.
	Bad news.
	Look, the...
	Hardcore Zionists.
	I, you know, like I said, I went over to Israel quite a bit and I worked with them very closely.
	But I'm under no illusions.
	Yeah.
	That we were allies of convenience.
	And what we shared, we shared because it was mutually beneficial to go after Iraq and Saddam.
	They're nice people.
	I'm not going to speak ill of them.
	I enjoyed socializing with them, etc.
	that they were not my friend yeah that if push comes to shove if if I took a position contrary to to give you an example when I started speaking out against the Iraq war my Israeli friends were no longer my friends The APAC, the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee, they would...
	I got an interesting little fact on them.
	They would hound dog me.
	What it means when I was going to members of Congress...
	Did ADL come after you too?
	Oh yeah, everybody came after me.
	Oh my god.
	I went to the American Congress.
	I would go in and brief them on weapons of mass destruction, trying to make the case that there's no work.
	I was followed by an AIPAC team.
	And as soon as I left, they went in.
	And they would remind each congressman that their election was at risk if they listened to what I had to say.
	Dude, people don't understand how much lobbying power Israel has in American politics.
	It's incredible.
	Like, AIPAC, they have it on their website that 95% of their candidates that win their general elections are AIPAC-backed.
	Yeah.
	The biggest threat AIPAC can do is say that we're going to not just withdraw funding from you, but we're going to primary you.
	And if you're a congressman who is running for election every two years, primary is the worst thing because it exhausts you and it bankrupts you and it's just disruptive.
	So what you want, when you get AIPAC on your side, that means you get more money, no primary, And you sort of slide in.
	That's how you stay to become an incumbent.
	So be rest assured that almost every long-term incumbent that you see in the U.S. Congress has AIPAC backing.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I mean, you know, shout out to Ryan Dawson.
	He talks about this.
	Grant F. Smith talks about this, about, you know, Israel's extreme influence over American politics.
	And I'll give another one.
	This is a very controversial saying.
	I didn't used to buy into it.
	And I have to be honest, I don't...
	I have trouble making such a blanket statement because you hear...
	All this talk about, you know, American media being controlled by Jewish interests.
	And, you know, for me to make such a blanket statement sounds pretty anti-Semitic to me.
	So I've always hesitated.
	I mean, I understand.
	You can show me all the lists of names, and I've seen them all, and I'm like, yep, there's a lot of Jewish people in there and all that, but...
	Here's the thing.
	When I was speaking out on Iraq, well, when I first started, when I first resigned, I was a hero to the Israelis.
	I was a hero to AIPAC. AIPAC wanted to bring me in and speak at their conventions.
	They sponsored, they wanted to get me jobs with the American Enterprise Institute, the whole thing.
	They loved me.
	I was the love child of AIPAC. But what I found, too, is that every place I went, In the media world, because I was doing the rounds, CBS, ABC, CNN, Fox.
	There were APEC people everywhere.
	So the cameraman, he's like, hey, Scott, you know, let me give you my card.
	Let me give you my other card.
	The other card was an APEC card.
	The producer.
	APEC. They were everywhere.
	APAC controls the media, or at least has their pulse on the media.
	And then when my position flipped, all those people are now working against me.
	I'm just, again, I don't want to be too conspiracy theory here.
	I'm speaking purely circumstantial evidence, but I cannot deny that in a limited period of time, when I was heavily exposed to American media, that AIPAC had an overwhelming presence in the media industry, and that that could work to your favor.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, they weren't in the business of, you know, reporting the news.
	They're in the business of shaping the news.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I like that.
	And and again, this isn't a knock.
	I mean, we've criticized everyone.
	You guys have seen us here talk about Saudi Arabia involvement in 9-11.
	You guys have seen us talk about Israeli involvement, Assad involvement, whatever.
	My thing is, we talk about all topics we've talked about.
	We just talked about Iraq for an extended period of time.
	The United States, etc.
	We're critical of many countries.
	Russia, we talked about Russia's failures and Ukraine's failures.
	But for some odd reason, if you criticize...
	Anyone from Israel, they'll immediately label you anti-Semitic, which I think is kind of crazy.
	It's like, bro, you can't criticize them, and if you do, kind of like what you saw, well, you were on our side when you were inspecting Iraq, and we had our interests aligned, but once interests aren't aligned anymore, oh, fuck you, man.
	I mean, I will give it to them.
	They absolutely love their country and will do anything for their country.
	They will do anything for Israel.
	You gotta respect their patriotism.
	Yeah, you gotta respect it.
	No, I... They'll put Israel above the United States.
	They do put Israel above the United States.
	They absolutely do it.
	I spoke at...
	There's two big American Jewish groups.
	The American Jewish Congress is one, and I don't know what the other one.
	I think I spoke at the American Jewish Congress.
	But it was down in the South.
	Huge audience.
	I was invited to speak when I was being promoted as a pro-Israeli guy.
	But then my position changed.
	So I'm speaking for them.
	They were polite.
	I give them this.
	But in the question and answer period, The guy basically got up mad because I was advocating that Iran didn't have a nuclear weapons program and that Iran wasn't a threat to Israel and all that kind of stuff.
	And this guy got up and basically called me an anti-Semite.
	Oh, God.
	And so my response was...
	That's their response to anything that is like...
	I said, with all due respect, where were you in February 1991?
	Hmm.
	Where were you?
	And I said, were you in Israel?
	He said, no.
	I said, were you in the United States?
	Yes.
	I said, but Israel is at war.
	Why weren't you in Israel defending Israel?
	Yeah.
	He said, well, I said, well, do you know where I was?
	I was in the deserts of Western Iraq trying to stop fucking scuds from landing on fucking Israel.
	You call me fucking anti-Semitic, I'll come down and fucking rip your head off.
	Bam.
	Yo, you son of a bitch.
	I put more on the line for Israel than you ever have.
	You ran away when Israel was at war.
	You're a fucking coward.
	So don't come at me with this anti-Semitic bullshit.
	I'm the guy that went to fucking Israel, put my life on the line to get intelligence to find Saddam Hussein's weapons.
	I've been struggling nonstop to make sure that Iraq could never again develop missile capability to strike Israel.
	And you call me fucking anti-Semitic.
	And now what I'm trying to do is prevent a situation where Iran develops weapons to strike Israel.
	And you call me anti-Semitic.
	I'm the best fucking friend Israel ever had.
	And you call me anti-Semitic.
	Kiss my anti-Semitic ass.
	That's the truth.
	You boots on the fucking ground.
	Boots on the fucking ground.
	So unless you're protecting Israeli interests, but they have the nerve to call you an anti-Semitic.
	Unless you've done more for Israel than I have, shut the fuck up.
	Excuse my language.
	And I apologize.
	I want to rumble.
	Say what you want, baby!
	This is rumble.
	You guys are getting Scott Ritter for real.
	Let's fucking go.
	Right now, man.
	Free speech over here.
	America, motherfuckers.
	All right.
	I hope my wife is because I'm going to pay a heavy price.
	You're good, man.
	You're good.
	Shout out to fucking base podcast, man.
	You can't have these discussions on YouTube, man.
	And again, we're talking about the pluses and negatives about how many countries have we mentioned today?
	A bunch.
	A bunch.
	We're trying to do is speak the truth.
	It's not about saying good things or bad things.
	It's about speaking the truth.
	And the truth is, there's going to be good and bad with everything.
	What's your take on Donald Trump, the current situation he finds himself in?
	I'll give the audience just a quick little overview of what's going on.
	He was indicted in New York on some falsifying business records charge, which is fucking bullshit.
	Thinks of Stormy Daniels, some stupid whore, paying her off as lawyer.
	Fucked up with that, creating a shell business to pay, and then they went ahead and said, oh, it was done with campaign funds, whatever.
	That's not a real charge.
	So it's a misdemeanor.
	It's a misdemeanor, but they made a felony because they're saying that it was in commission of another thing.
	The AD campaigned under prosecuting Trump, so they had a hard-on for him.
	Not real.
	What I'm more concerned with, and you know this from coming from the intel world, and both of us working for the government before...
	They're going after him now for having those classified documents and also national defense information, NDI, which I'm worried about more than the classified shit because, you know, obviously he could declassify the declassified documents, which he didn't.
	But regardless, let's say he did declassify all those.
	It doesn't matter because he has the NDI, which is what I'm worried about.
	They fucking indicted him about a month ago now at this point, a couple weeks ago.
	For violation of the Espionage Act, which if you don't know, guys, are the same exact charges that Pollard got hit with, Robert Hansen got hit with, 18 U.S.C. 793E, and then him and his aide, Waltine Natua, he got also hit with obstruction of justice, lying, all this other shit.
	So...
	Pretty much, for me doing the numbers, etc., it looks like he's going to do somewhere between 8 to 20 years if convicted of this stuff.
	And I don't think he can win a trial if he went.
	And this is coming from a Trump supporter, guys.
	I fucking love Trump.
	And I had my little theory on how I think he can beat these charges.
	But that's the general overview.
	I think I summed it up.
	What's your thoughts on the situation?
	What's your take on the situation?
	Obviously, this is unprecedented to have a former U.S. president indicted federally for violations of the Espionage Act.
	You need to add one more person to somebody who's been charged with espionage.
	Who?
	Me.
	Really?
	I told you, when the CIA guy said that the FBI was going to fuck me in the ass, the first thing they did is file espionage charges against me because of my intelligence relationship with Israel.
	What?
	What the FBI didn't understand is that every aspect of my intelligence relationship with Israel was coordinated with the CIA. And even when I went to the CIA and said, could you please tell the FBI that this is horseshit because the U.S. government was in the business of fucking me in the ass at the time, the CIA wouldn't do that.
	So I spent three years fighting espionage charges.
	They finally dropped them.
	Did they ever indict you?
	That was a person of interest.
	They never acknowledged whether or not they had an indictment.
	They had Mary Jo White.
	Remember her name?
	Mary Jo White was the prosecutor of the Southern District of New York.
	She had the reputation of being the hardest anti-terrorist prosecutor in the history of America.
	If Mary Jo White put her sights on you, you were going down.
	Who did she prosecute?
	Anyone notable that you could think of?
	Rez Yusuf maybe or somebody?
	Yeah, she did all those guys.
	She did all those guys?
	Everything out of the Southern District.
	She was the person.
	So she did all the terrorism cases out of Southern District?
	Yeah, she was a big one.
	She never lost a case.
	Ever lost a case.
	I made her back down.
	Because at the end of the day, when I confronted the FBI... And this is pre-9-11?
	It's pre-9-11.
	So CIA and FBI weren't sharing shit.
	I mean, it's documented that the CIA documented, guys, declassified documents, it is documented they knew who the fuck these terrorists were.
	They knew where they were at.
	They had eyes on Mohammed Atta, right?
	We're going to talk about this in more detail around Ryan Dawson, by the way.
	Not only did they know who these fucking guys were, Israeli intelligence knew who the fuck these guys were.
	They were following them around Florida.
	They were using a moving company, which was run by Israeli intelligence, by the way.
	Transport Moving Systems.
	Shout out to Ryan Dawson once again for exposing that.
	It was known.
	And the CIA had warned the White House on several occasions about imminent attacks from Osama Bin Laden.
	So Man.
	So they clearly never indicted you because you didn't get charged.
	How many times did they come and try to talk to you, the Bureau?
	No, no.
	We did what's called a queen for the day arrangement.
	Okay, you did a proffer.
	Yeah.
	Well, no, no.
	What they said is...
	Okay, you come in and talk.
	And we'll listen.
	And nothing could be used against you.
	Right.
	And I told my lawyer, he said, well, you got to be careful.
	I said, I got nothing.
	So I went in there.
	They had the three FBI agents who were after me.
	When we finished, about three hours later.
	All of them showed you their creds?
	Oh, no, no.
	I was in their building.
	I was in the interrogation room.
	When we finished.
	And I just wanted to make sure all of them were actually bureau guys.
	Oh, no, they were bureau.
	The female was crying, sobbing, embarrassed.
	The other guy wouldn't look me in the eyes.
	He was embarrassed, too.
	And the other guy was just saying, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	This should never have happened.
	Because I confronted them with the absolute bullshit of their charges.
	How everything they fucking did was based on a lie.
	I proved to them how everything I did was proper effort.
	Not only that, that I was the most fucking patriotic American that walked the face of the fucking earth.
	On what grounds were they trying to say that you were...
	Because you worked with Israel?
	Because I took U2 imagery to Israel and turned it over to the Israelis to be exploited.
	But that was under the direction of what you were told by your higher-ups.
	Right.
	None of that.
	But they said, well, it's secret.
	I said, no, it's not.
	They said, it's marked secret.
	But the U-2 aircraft that took it worked for the United Nations under my direction.
	I directed it as a UN official.
	It took the imagery.
	That imagery belonged to me.
	It was given to me.
	I tried to get the United States to exploit this imagery.
	I was told that the United States won't do that.
	So then I went to the CIA and got permission to take it to Israel, where the Israelis exploited it.
	And the CIA didn't want to give you that fucking clearance that you had...
	Obviously, this had been agreed upon.
	They didn't want to give it to you?
	They didn't tell the FBI. They let the FBI operate as if I was fucking bringing classified information to Israel.
	And remember, guys, this is pre-9-11.
	This is pre-Patriot Act.
	This is pre-The Intelligence Age is working with each other.
	Like, this is pre-everything.
	You know what I mean?
	I just brought that up because...
	I just want to throw my name on the people who've been charged with espionage.
	But I beat the charge.
	That's good that they never formally indicted you.
	You were asking about...
	I was asking with Trump.
	What's your thoughts on his situation being indicted for violation of the Espionage Act?
	Here's my thing.
	No man or woman should be above the law.
	If you break the law, you have to be held accountable or else the rule of law means nothing.
	Having said that, though, we also know that prosecutors have prosecutorial discretion.
	They exercise it all the time.
	Especially the federal prosecutors.
	I'll tell you guys that as a guy that used to do federal criminal cases, AUSAs are the pickiest divas ever.
	They only take the sexy cases that they don't lose.
	Or they also, believe it or not, they look at cases and say more harm than good would come of this prosecution.
	Absolutely.
	And so they can opt not to charge or they can opt to seek alternative ways of dealing with this.
	Absolutely.
	There's clever ways to do this.
	Yeah.
	The big one is throwing it to the state.
	Yeah.
	That's the quickest one.
	That's the easiest one.
	Well, the easiest one is just to say...
	Didn't fucking happen.
	Oh, that too.
	Of course.
	So now we deal with Trump.
	Here's the problem with Trump.
	Everybody hates Trump.
	I mean, not you, not the people.
	Yeah.
	But Trump doesn't have that many allies in the establishment.
	He's the anti-establishment guy.
	RFK, too?
	Yeah.
	Fortunately, RFK, you know, hopefully he can dodge bullets.
	I am worried about RFK. Yeah.
	And as he becomes more popular, I mean, his numbers are going up, and that's bad for him.
	Drop the bombshell on Rogan with...
	You know, why they killed his uncle.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He's not making friends.
	But anyways, with Trump, again, no man is above the law.
	And if you've done it, but let me put it this way.
	If Donald Trump, if this was any other politician being accused of Buying off a hooker who was talking about him and all that.
	Crazy.
	This wouldn't have been prosecuted.
	Or this would have been done somewhere where they charge you a fine and all that kind of stuff.
	It's just a non-issue.
	But because they're desperate to get Donald Trump They are.
	This is a politicized prosecution, which is the worst kind of prosecution possible.
	It's being done for the wrong reasons.
	That's the New York case.
	Now we'll get to the more complicated case.
	The federal one, yeah.
	Which has me worried.
	I'm not...
	Let me put it this way.
	Somebody used to hold...
	You can move it.
	Somebody used to hold the highest clearances in the land.
	I mean...
	What'd you talk about?
	I'm sure SCI is the bare minimum.
	Do you have a white hat?
	I had a number of things that I'm not allowed to talk about because you signed non-disclosure agreements.
	Fair enough.
	I'm just going to estimate probably Q clearance is a white hat.
	Q is like nuclear type shit.
	But continue on.
	I'm just going to speculate for the audience to throw it out there.
	Yeah, you don't have to confirm or deny.
	But the point is, having signed a non-disclosure agreement, I live by that non-disclosure agreement.
	I know there's lawyers out there that tell me that an NDA is not legally binding.
	I don't want to test that.
	Plus, I'm somebody that believes that...
	Things are classified for a reason.
	There's a reason why I was entrusted with this knowledge, I used it in my work, and then when I'm done with that, I'm done with that.
	If I talk about it, people's lives could be put at risk, systems could be exploited, compromised, billion-dollar systems could be compromised, bad things could happen to the country.
	And I'm talking about even, you know, I last held a clearance long, long, long, long time ago.
	You know, logic says that whatever I knew isn't relevant today, but it doesn't matter because you can reverse-engineer things.
	I can say things that could lead people to speculate.
	So I just don't talk about it.
	It's the right thing to do.
	And all the things you have discussed today are all declassified now.
	100%.
	The problem is nobody else respects that.
	And what I mean by that is we live in a day and age where the New York Times publishes highly classified information every day.
	People leak.
	Washington, D.C. leaks like a sieve.
	Congress leaks.
	CIA leaks.
	Everybody leaks.
	They leak to their benefit.
	They leak what's beneficial to them.
	Things have been published in newspapers that have been leaked by government sources that have resulted in people dying, resulted in billion-dollar systems being compromised.
	One of the most...
	Yeah.
	And we built a billion dollar satellite specifically to listen to that satellite phone.
	And we launched that satellite and the day it was launched, the people said, and one of the things that they think this was built for is to track bin Laden.
	And that satellite phone went dead.
	Yeah.
	Billion dollar thing.
	Somebody leaked that to the...
	So, I'm not saying that that's good.
	I'm just saying that that's how Washington, D.C. works.
	And the reason why I bring that up is that people are saying what Donald Trump did is the most horrible thing in the world, put us at risk.
	And I'm like, I don't support what he did.
	But it's not the most horrible thing in the world because it happens every day.
	In Washington, D.C., people leak information and you don't have FBI investigations going on, etc.
	You know, we don't know what documents Joe Biden has in his office.
	Nobody's talking about the contents of that.
	We don't know what Mike Pence had in his office.
	And I will tell you right now, it's a guaranteed fact that if I launched a raid against...
	I could build a list of 50 government officials right now and launch a raid against their homes.
	And you'll find classified docs.
	100%.
	Because we over classify everything.
	That's 100% true.
	And we make it too easy to move these documents.
	Mm-hmm.
	I used to sign a bigot list.
	You know what a bigot list is?
	Let's say the CIA publishes an estimate, a special estimate on Soviet strategic nuclear weapons.
	For me to get that document, I had to sign a receipt.
	Okay, so now I have the document.
	It's a numbered document.
	Anybody who sees that document has to sign the receipt, and then it has to be returned with that chain so they know who accessed the document.
	So if it's ever compromised, they know exactly who to go back to.
	Bingo.
	The documents had at that time, they were, they, first of all, each document had, I'm not giving away anything here.
	Each document had unique things about the document.
	So let's say that I Xeroxed it.
	A, you couldn't Xerox it because if you put it in the Xerox machine, it would darken up because the way the document is built.
	But let's say you managed to Xerox it, play with it and get it out.
	Now I gave it to a member of the press and they did a quote.
	The construction of the language on that document differed in different documents.
	So if somebody quoted something, they'd say, well, it came from this document.
	Now they have a limited bigot list.
	What I'm trying to say is that we actually secured the information back then.
	We took it seriously.
	Today...
	Yeah, in the information age.
	Stuff is the digital stuff.
	They're just sending stuff out.
	It's printed out.
	It's not treated with respect.
	It's overclassified.
	You know, our job back then was to try and get, you know, TSSCI down to TS and then work to get it down to secret and then work to get it down to confidential so that we could use it.
	You know, our goal was to be able to use it, but the way we decided- That's a misconception I want everyone to know.
	Like guys, highly classified information is fucking useless 99% of the time, especially in criminal investigations.
	It brings more harm than good a lot of the times.
	So the goal was to dumb this information down, to strip away the stuff, to get to how we could use it to do our job.
	Today, it seems to me that the approach is the opposite.
	How do we classify it up so that it can't be accessed, so it can't be used to protect people, to do things?
	So it's a different approach.
	And I bring that up because I don't know exactly what Donald Trump had in there.
	Is he wrong for keeping it?
	Yes.
	Does Donald Trump have the right to declassify it?
	Well, of course he does.
	He was president of the United States.
	While he was president, he could declassify anything he wanted to.
	And this is where people are like, well, there are procedures.
	He's the fucking president.
	There's no procedure for the president.
	Supreme Court has said so.
	That doesn't mean that he should do it.
	But...
	You know, it's going to be a hard trial for him.
	Here's my thing.
	I think that the concept of the damage to the national security that they claim was done is exaggerated just because we live in a society that leaks everything.
	There's compromises done every day of the week.
	There's 13 documents they don't want to charge him with because they're saying they're so classified that...
	Because for them to admit it into evidence, it has to be declassified so that they can put it into the discovery process.
	So they're saying they're only hitting them with 37 of the documents.
	They're saying there's another 13 that were so classified.
	We don't know if that's media sensationalization or if it was really that classified that they don't want to use it.
	But the point I'm trying to make is...
	I've read Edward Snowden's documents that he's released.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	Did the country come to an end?
	No.
	And some of the stuff that he released...
	Operation Warwind.
	...should never have been released.
	Yeah.
	But country didn't come to an end.
	Yeah.
	I actually think that we would benefit from half the stuff that he was there.
	I think the more Americans learned about what Donald Trump...
	Because what you realize is, A, half the stuff that it talks about we shouldn't be doing.
	Yeah, it was invasion stuff, a lot of it.
	It was invasion stuff.
	It was Five Eyes information.
	For those of you that are wondering what the fuck is Five Eyes, that's the five English-speaking countries where we're having an alliance with the United States, New Zealand, Australia, England, and...
	New Zealand.
	Did you say New Zealand?
	United States.
	Oh, Canada.
	Oh, Canada.
	Blame Canada.
	Blame Canada.
	Yeah, blame Canada.
	So it was a lot of Five Eyes information.
	A lot of no foreign nationals should be seeing it.
	But these classifications mean nothing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I'll give you a funny little story for y'all, right?
	Listen, because I agree with you 100% that they over-classify everything.
	When I was an agent with HSI, I used to work with the FBI in certain cases, blah, blah, blah.
	Dude, there was times where we gave them information, and then we'd be like, oh yeah, the information we gave you, can you tell us about it?
	Like, I don't have it in front of me.
	Oh, that's classified.
	Wait, what?
	We gave you that information.
	What the fuck are you guys talking about is classified?
	They classify everything.
	Because in, you know, out of an abundance of caution, because everyone is scared, they just classify it.
	Fuck it.
	Especially the Bureau.
	One of the worst agencies when it comes to classifying shit.
	A lot of times that's law enforcement sensitive.
	This isn't classified.
	What the fuck are you guys talking about?
	We gave you this.
	Oh, classified.
	Yeah.
	When I was a weapons inspector in Iraq, the Dutch had a defector that they were getting information when they wanted to get it to us.
	But they didn't want to have a relationship with UNSCOM. So they went to the CIA and they gave it to the CIA with the express.
	They said, give it to UNSCOM. The problem is the CIA received it.
	No foreign.
	No foreign dissemination.
	And so now the CIA wouldn't give it to us.
	And so for a year and a half, the Dutch were like, why aren't you guys acting on this?
	And finally, the Dutch guy came up and he said, are you getting this stuff?
	I said, I'm not getting anything.
	But the CIA blocked it because...
	It was a foreign source, and there becomes automatically no foreign dissemination, which means the United Nations can't get it.
	So we ended up doing direct relationship with the Dutch, but it's the same thing.
	Then I would take this information from the Dutch, and then I would go to my CIA liaison, and we'd start working on it, and I'd hand things over to him.
	They'd receive it, and then when I'd sit down the next meeting, I'd say, hey, that stuff I gave you, can we bring it?
	Oh, no, it's classified.
	You can't see it.
	I said, but I gave it to you.
	So you dealt with the same bullshit.
	Yo, guys, I'm telling y'all, man.
	So, okay, so sorry, but going back to the Trump, I see a bunch of you guys talking about the USS Liberty.
	That's another cover-up no one wants to talk about.
	Yeah, no one wants to talk about the Liberty.
	Nobody wants to talk about the Liberty.
	Murder of America.
	Yep, yep, and man.
	Lyndon B. Johnson, okay, that's a whole other, okay.
	Shout out to Ryan Johnson once again, yeah, with the Trump situation.
	We can discuss the liberty as well if people want.
	This is going to hurt America more than it helps America.
	If people don't, look, I know you said you're a big Donald Trump supporter.
	I like him.
	Well, I used to like him.
	I don't anymore.
	I think he does more harm than good at this point in time.
	But I will tell you this, the more they prosecute him, the more I'm going to vote for him.
	Okay, all right.
	Because it...
	We need disruption, and he's the disruptor.
	I'd like to see RFK Jr.
	get more traction.
	I'd like to see him become more viable.
	Honestly, I'm cool.
	RFK, Ron DeSantis, or Trump.
	But Biden's got to go.
	But the more they go after him...
	This is not a legitimate prosecution of a crime.
	That's my point.
	This is a politicized prosecution, pure and simple.
	If this was legitimate, they would.
	Let me give you an example.
	Richard Nixon.
	OK, Mr. Watergate himself committed more crimes than you can possibly imagine.
	He was pardoned because they didn't want to have the embarrassment of a president going through this.
	Didn't he famously say you can't prosecute a president?
	He famously said it.
	But the thing is, you can.
	But here's my point.
	Why aren't we applying that same standard to Donald Trump?
	Why isn't somebody pulling Trump aside saying, hey, look, in the interest of America, we can't go down this route.
	Was it Nixon at the Bohemian Grove?
	I'm sure he was.
	Was Donald Trump ever at the Bohemian Grove?
	I don't think so.
	I don't know.
	But my point is, this is going to be very disruptive to America.
	We're already a nation that's deeply polarized.
	We should be looking to find ways to bring people together, not tear people apart.
	And these prosecutions are purely political.
	They can't control Trump.
	That's another thing.
	That's the problem.
	They can't control him because he has his own money.
	He doesn't need these lobbying entities.
	He's self-made, so he runs his campaign the way he wants.
	And he doesn't respect the establishment.
	Yeah, he doesn't.
	The deep state, all that stuff, he criticizes all of them.
	Which he's right.
	But then you have to understand that if you're going to go after the deep state, the deep state's going to come after you.
	And that's what's happening right now.
	This is literally...
	The Justice Department being politicized.
	They're going to indict him for January 6th, too.
	I'm sure they're going to get him on something.
	But my point is, what they don't understand is that this isn't about Donald Trump.
	This is about America.
	And when you politicize the Justice Department, you destroy American justice.
	There's already...
	We could have a very long conversation about American justice.
	I've gone through some pretty silly stuff myself.
	I've lost faith in the American court system because I believe that if they want to take you down, they will manipulate the system to take you down.
	Show me the man, I'll find you the crime.
	Bingo.
	And so Donald Trump is, well, there's a guy who wrote a book, Five Felonies a Day or something like that.
	But basically it was, we have so many laws out there that every law-abiding citizen just by living life is committing five felonies a day that if the government wants to get you, they're going to get you.
	On something.
	Because just living in America today, the way everything is regulated, etc., and the power of the prosecution, the power of the courts, if you get on the wrong side of them, they're going to take you down.
	Bottom line.
	Donald Trump is definitely on the wrong side of the system, and they are doing their best to take him down.
	This is going to destroy us more than help us.
	I will say this.
	I've thought in my head, how can Trump get out of this?
	And I can only think of two ways.
	And we got, well, we got almost 14,000 y'all watching on Rumble right now, man.
	Thank you guys so much.
	You guys can be anywhere else.
	It's 1220 at night, but you guys are here with me and Scott Ritter having this high IQ conversation.
	I think the only way that they can, that Trump can get out of this is A, he draws out this prosecution.
	Stalls, hearing after hearing, suppression hearing after suppression hearing, fighting, making as many frivolous contentions as he can, right?
	Get to the election, 2024.
	Obviously, he's wildly popular.
	The more they indict him, the more they charge him, the more he goes up in the polls.
	Win the election.
	I guess you could probably pardon yourself as president, I assume.
	I don't think he'd pardon himself, but I think he'll destroy the Justice Department.
	Yeah.
	As he should at that point.
	Like, he can probably do something to pardon himself.
	Or, the other one, which I talked about this with Dave Rubin, shout out to him, he said that if Ron DeSantis wins, he pretty much said, I will pardon Trump, which I think is great.
	It's a smart move.
	Look, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, and it saved America.
	Yeah.
	Because the moment...
	Where are you going to put Trump in prison?
	I was going to say that next.
	Bro, okay, this is a guy, just so you guys know, I did Secret Service details before.
	I protected the president of Congo, I think it was, or fuck, I forget, some African country, I forget the country.
	Back at...
	When I tell you guys, it was extremely difficult to protect a president from a foreign nation that doesn't have nearly the same security requirements as a president of the United States, there's no way that he'd be able to effectively serve any type of prison time.
	There's no way!
	No, it's just stupid.
	It's stupid.
	This is the dumbest prosecution in the world.
	He'd have to be put...
	The only way I could even see this happening is they'd have to put him on house arrest.
	Well, that might be...
	Or make a jail just for him.
	Which would be a waste of money and time.
	Mar-a-Lago.
	Yeah.
	Because of prison.
	Like, that's the only way I could see it.
	There's no way that you could...
	Because him getting...
	Could you imagine a former president of the United States getting killed in prison?
	But here's the thing, though.
	Because a felony conviction doesn't bar you from being president of the United States, he still won the damn election.
	Yeah.
	So now he's president of the United States under house arrest?
	Yeah.
	It does...
	Yeah, I don't...
	I think, honestly, the Justice Department did this for, like, a clout move.
	Like, this is a power, like, look at what we've done.
	But I don't know how the hell they're gonna actually enforce Him being in prison because I'll keep it a million with you guys.
	Someone that I've done espionage cases myself, yeah, they pretty much got him dead to rights.
	I read through the entire indictment in its entirety and I'm like, God damn, every single one of his defenses, they call it a speaking indictment because it goes through all the facts and it covers all of his defenses that he could potentially bring up.
	And this is the other thing that scares me too with that case.
	Trump had lawyers that worked for him during this whole situation.
	Those lawyers were tasked with getting the documents that were classified and giving them over to the FBI. Trump's assistant moved some of the documents when Trump's lawyers were going to get the documents and give them to the FBI, which is why that guy is being indicted, by the way, for the obstruction of justice.
	This is what concerns me.
	When I read the document, right, the indictment, reading between the lines, I saw in there that they wrote, Trump Lawyer 1 memorialized notes states as follows.
	Well, we know lawyer information with a defendant is privileged.
	Law enforcement should never have that.
	Why the fuck...
	Is the AUSA putting lawyer notes in an indictment that's supposed to be privileged and not used?
	That tells me one thing, only one conclusion.
	The lawyers flipped and they're cooperating with the government, which means they are going to testify against Trump should he go to trial.
	That is the only conclusion I can come to.
	And the fact that they were able to do that tells me this is more than likely what happened.
	It's someone that used to do these investigations.
	Lawyers go with the documents that they have in hand.
	Hey, FBI, here's the documents that Trump gave us.
	Okay, sign this under penalty and perjury document that these are all the documents.
	Sure!
	Sign it away.
	Stupid!
	Not all the documents were there.
	They're still missing 100 documents.
	FBI looks.
	Oh, we're still missing 100 docs.
	Search warrant time.
	Write up an affidavit.
	Write up the search warrant.
	Go raid the house.
	The other thing that concerns me when I read through that search warrant, it's heavily redacted, heavily redacted.
	So that tells me that they have informants at the Mar-a-Lago house.
	They have people that are intimately there that know what the hell is going on, where the documents specifically are, because to get a federal search warrant is not easy.
	And for them to get a federal search warrant for violations of the Espionage Act tells me even more so.
	They have boots on the ground.
	They have eyes in Mar-a-Lago.
	So that's how they got in.
	So they get in.
	They find the documents.
	They bring those same lawyers in.
	You're going to be indicted for fucking obstruction of justice and for 1001, which is bad enough.
	1001 is false statements.
	They're going to get convicted of felony, lose their bar, lose their life, etc.
	You better play ball.
	Okay.
	Now that I know that Trump committed an act, I didn't know about this, a criminal act, privilege is gone.
	Here's my notes that I took every time I was with Trump.
	And the indictment also talks about situations where the lawyer...
	When he was talking with Trump about getting these documents out, Trump made a plucking thing.
	Like, as in, like, when he was going to the hotel, just pluck those documents out.
	Do we really have to cooperate with the FBI, blah, blah, blah?
	All these things, and he wrote it down.
	Even though this is bullshit, what I see is that they're going to have all these witnesses, including Trump's own former lawyers, that are going to testify against him.
	They're going to have Mar-a-Lago employees.
	They're probably going to have even Secret Service agents testify.
	It's not going to be good.
	So I think the only way he's going to beat this, draw it out, become president, pardon yourself, or hopefully Ron DeSantis, or whoever takes office, pardon him.
	Yeah.
	Look, you're 100% correct on...
	The only good news, I think, for Trump in all of this is that the federal prosecutor hasn't won a major case yet.
	He's overcharged, overreached on everything.
	As bad as all this looks, maybe there's a lawyer out there right now that can pull a miracle.
	But I think the miracle is what you just said.
	And he's going to go to trial, which worries me even more.
	Because that means if he goes to trial, all those witnesses are coming out.
	All of them.
	Well, he has to avoid trial.
	What it means is to draw this thing out.
	This has to be drawn out for years.
	And if you have a good lawyer, you can do that.
	I think he has the money and the finances to just file suppression hearing after suppression hearing, motion after motion.
	Every day this goes on.
	I mean, it's counterintuitive, but he's becoming...
	The more it appears that he's guilty, the more popular he becomes.
	Yeah.
	You know, so...
	So, okay, so we talked about the Trump thing.
	Damn it, there was another...
	We can have some of these rumble rants real quick.
	Guys, are you guys enjoying this?
	Give me one thing to chat if you guys are enjoying this discussion, man.
	It's one of my favorite discussions we've had.
	I knew this was going to be a great podcast for y'all.
	We're breaking down everything.
	Trump, Iraq, Russia, Ukraine, Putin, the media, Shit that would get us banned on YouTube.
	So, like the goddamn video.
	Also, Scott, can you drop your socials for the people real quick?
	If they want to get more content like this from you, where can they find you?
	Get me on Twitter at I think it's at Real Scott Ritter.
	Telegram is just Scott Ritter.
	But the best way is at scottridderextra.com.
	It's a one-shop stop for videos that I do.
	For instance, if this is on YouTube and I get a link, I'll put it up there so people who didn't watch it will see it.
	I do a lot of podcasts.
	I do my own podcasts.
	And then I have a sub-stack where I publish all my stuff.
	And there's no firewall, no paywall, so it can all be free, but if people like it...
	Guys, go support him, man.
	Go support him over there.
	All those links are below as well.
	You know, you guys enjoy this type of content, man.
	You know, it's not often that you can bring in a geopolitical expert like this and be able to have these discussions.
	This is obviously, you know, much higher IQ than our normal shows with the fucking dumb assholes.
	And this is some of my favorite stuff.
	Being able to talk to an expert and ask questions.
	And shout out to Ryan Dawson.
	Hi!
	We're putting this together.
	We're going to have Ryan Dawson on tomorrow.
	I think I just figured out what 304 is.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I got it.
	Oh, man.
	Question for Scott.
	How credible are the claims that the Ukrainian army has a Nazi division?
	And did a lot of Nazis find asylum in Ukraine after World War II? We discussed some of that earlier, right?
	But I don't know if you want to elaborate more.
	Look, the Ukrainian army sings songs praising Stepan Bandera, who is a white supremacist Nazi collaborator.
	There's a division called the Edelweiss Division.
	It's a mountain division, but it assumed the title Edelweiss.
	Now, some people say that's harmless.
	Other people say that that's linked to Nazis.
	But you have the Azov, which is definitely a Nazi-related division.
	You have Kraken Battalion.
	But the bottom line is the Nazi ideology has reached a pandemic level inside the Ukrainian military.
	And the longer this war goes on, the more it seems to radicalize them.
	They have adopted the German cross as the symbol for their vehicle.
	Yeah.
	We got here.
	What's up next?
	Tropical rocket goals.
	Why didn't Putin react as soon as Prigl's in started going off?
	Because he wanted to avoid a civil war.
	You had 25,000 armed men.
	And if you start turning, if you choose violence as your solution, you're going to get violence in return.
	Yeah.
	And that's what NATO wants, too.
	Yeah.
	He hates NATO more than he hates him.
	Notice that the CIA briefed Congress after the fact that they said, we expected more violence.
	That means that they expected this and they expected it to be violent.
	And Putin did his best to make sure that the violence was minimized.
	Yeah.
	Speaking of which, that's what I was going to ask you about.
	The USS Liberty.
	People were bringing that up in the chat.
	If you guys want more knowledge on this, definitely go check out the documentary, NUMEC, from Ryan Dawson, where he talks about how Israel stole the nuclear bomb, etc.
	He touches on the USS Liberty, but do you want to give the people a quick overview on that?
	Well, the USS Liberty was a U.S. Navy...
	Electronic surveillance ship is a spy ship working for the National Security Agency.
	It was monitoring the...
	I didn't know that.
	It was working under the NSA. Yeah.
	It...
	The...
	It was monitoring the 1967 or the Six-Day War, the Israelis fighting the Egyptians and...
	For the Suez Canal, right?
	Yep.
	And...
	Basically, the Israelis...
	Would you say...
	And I'm sorry to interrupt.
	Would you say that the War of the Suez Canal is what fucked...
	England up and made it lose its reserve currency status?
	Well, that was 56.
	What we're talking here is 66.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was prior.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	But the Israelis attacked it.
	It was a deliberate attack.
	There's no doubt about it.
	The Israelis knew it was an American ship.
	They attacked it.
	Not one, not two, three, several times.
	Here's the thing about the Liberty.
	We're not at war, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	The captain got a Medal of Honor.
	Wait, what?
	The silver stars were issued by the handful, bronze stars, purple hearts, the men that fought on the liberty, and they were issued the highest awards for heroism in America, combat awards.
	Oh, so they were able to fire back at the planes that dropped bombs on them?
	Well, they tried, but it's also not just about firing back.
	It was about saving lives.
	It was about performance under fire, performance under duty.
	The point is, the Navy knows what happened.
	The ship was attacked.
	This was a combat mission.
	It became a combat mission because the Israelis were seeking to sink the ship.
	And like I said, a Medal of Honor was issued because of this fighting, because of this incident.
	Silver stars were issued, bronze stars, heroism awards.
	And yet, We don't treat it as a combat action because we can't admit that Israel attacked a U.S. Navy ship.
	We seek to minimize this.
	Nobody talks about the liberty.
	Nobody talks about the fact that they were calling out SOS, SOS, we're under attack, we're under attack.
	We had aircraft carriers in range that could have launched airplanes to save lives.
	But the airplanes were called back because we didn't want to have a conflict with Israel.
	So we allowed the final attack to take place of the torpedo boats against the Liberty that killed even more Americans.
	This was murder by the part of the Israelis.
	Why did they attack the USS Liberty?
	That's the big question.
	Nobody knows?
	Well, the Israelis know, but they say it was a mistake, mistaken identity.
	I think they attacked it because the Liberty was intercepting signals that showed that the Israelis were killing Egyptian prisoners of war.
	Mmm.
	Damn.
	And that would have...
	That would have compromised them significantly.
	Well, I mean, we now know that they were killing Egyptian prisoners.
	But at the time, it would have been a bad look.
	It would have, you know, it could have...
	Messed with some treaties and agreements that were put in place.
	Right.
	And, you know, with the benefit of hindsight, we now can speak, you know, definitively about this happening, this happening.
	But remember, this is during war with the fog of war taking place.
	You know, there were no guarantees that the United States was going to be the ally of Israel, especially if Israel turned around and slaughtered Egyptian prisoners of war.
	So the feeling of the Israelis was you have to sink the ship.
	You know what's even worse?
	The surviving members of the USS Liberty were all given gag orders, and they couldn't speak on what happened.
	And Lyndon B. Johnson, the president at the time, was who issued these gag orders on these people.
	And then doing some research, again, I gotta shout out Ryan Dawson, man.
	The guy fucking doesn't miss anything.
	He doesn't miss anything.
	He found out.
	Lyndon B. Johnson's aunt was a hardcore Zionist.
	And he was affiliated with a Zionist organization.
	And he made everyone that was involved in the U.S.'s liberty.
	Let me guess.
	Ryan also probably found a relationship there in the missing plutonium from Pantex.
	Probably.
	He also found that the woman that he was having an affair with was an Israeli terrorist.
	That LBJ was having an affair with?
	Yeah, it was a woman.
	Man, I could play the clip if y'all want me to.
	If you guys want me to, I can find the clip and play it for you guys out of Numek, man.
	Give me ones in the chat.
	If y'all want me to, I'll play it for y'all and you guys can see what I'm talking about.
	But, yeah, sorry, I didn't want to interrupt you.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm just saying that the Liberty, getting back on the Liberty, it's...
	This was a crime against America.
	Americans were killed.
	It was an attack on America.
	But we don't treat it as such.
	Because it's Israel.
	Israel gets special treatment.
	Pollard got special treatment.
	Even though he was prosecuted, we didn't hold Israel accountable for what was done.
	We treat Israel as a close and loyal ally.
	I'm just going to go put the clip on.
	You can keep talking about the USS Liberty and Latvia.
	Because, yeah, this is something that no one, it's been erased from the history books.
	Like, there's certain things, I don't know if you guys noticed this, I remember one time I googled the Havara agreement.
	You have to type in the whole fucking thing for it to pop up on Google.
	Yeah.
	USS Liberty, you gotta type the whole thing for it to pop up on Google.
	There's certain things that they will not aid you in finding.
	And I was like, what the fuck, man?
	Like, alright, let me, I'll pull this up real quick.
	Well, here I am.
	I've got the mic.
	You're the only host now.
	I'm the only host.
	I'm holding the show down.
	Again, I'm somebody who considers Israel to be a state that has a right to exist.
	I consider myself to be a friend of Israel.
	But that doesn't mean Israel can get away with murder.
	I operate under the notion that friends don't let friends drive drunk.
	And oftentimes I compare Israel to a nation drunk on hubris, arrogance.
	And as a friend, sometimes you've got to go in and stop the vehicle and take the keys out of the ignition and stop the momentum.
	And Israel right now is a nation that's heading straight off the cliff, straight off the abyss.
	And as a friend of Israel, we need to say, that's enough.
	Slow down.
	Stop.
	How can you be friends with a nation that attacked your fellow Americans, that attacked the USS Liberty, and won't apologize for it, won't acknowledge the wrongdoing?
	It would be one thing if they said, yes, we did it, we're sorry, forgive us.
	But they pretend as if this was an accident.
	They want it to go away.
	And the thing about not recognizing it as what it was, what it is, is that that creates the real possibility that it could happen again.
	And that's my concern with Israel.
	Yep.
	We found it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I think we're going to run the clip now.
	Yes, we are.
	Almost like some faction knew he was so compromised that they could even attack an American ship and murder US servicemen without consequence.
	Oh, and they did.
	And once again, LBJ, other than grabbing his ankles for Israel, did little other than...
	You can also tell me when to pause or play if you have any side comments.
	Issuing a gag order on the American survivors.
	Wow, somebody really wanted Kennedy out and LBJN. I guess it was Cuba.
	Not.
	Note.
	On the first anniversary of the Six-Day War, RFK was murdered, allegedly by a Palestinian.
	Uh-huh.
	The Kennedys had put pressure on the American Zionist Council for Public Affairs, now known as APAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
	In 1963, the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearings revealed that the American Zionist Council had laundered over $5 million of Jewish agency funds into lobbying activities.
	The American Zionist Council simply dodged the Foreign Agent Registration Act order by moving all of its major functions to AIPAC, and umbrella organizations like the ZOA and Hadash became permanent members of AIPAC's executive committee.
	Once Johnson was in office, Israel had an unchecked foreign lobby with no resistance, free to bribe their way into further power.
	AIPAC is currently the most powerful lobby in D.C. Now, to pick up on Grant's comments, he indicated that...
	Yeah, I mean, guys, shit is real, man.
	Like, it's wild, you know, with the whole U.S.'s liberty situation.
	And a lot of people don't know about that, that both the Kennedys were trying to get Israel to...
	You can put it down, Mo.
	You can bring us up now.
	They were trying to get them to register under Farah, which obviously would cause them a lot of issues for the Zionist organizations.
	Well, Kennedy was also putting pressure on Israel to allow nuclear inspections, and that didn't work out either.
	Yeah.
	You know, I wish RFK, when he went on Rogan, he talked about every other thing that Kennedy was doing that got him killed, except for his situation with Ben Gurion in Israel, the nuclear bombs, Farah.
	He didn't mention any of that on Rogan.
	And I don't know why he didn't.
	Well, you know why he didn't.
	Yeah.
	I wish he did, because he's so outspoken about COVID. He's so outspoken about everything else.
	But he avoided that.
	He did not want to talk about FARA. He did not want to talk about the nuclear bomb.
	None of that, dude.
	And I was like, come on, man.
	Like, the coincidence is they gave them 72 hours or 24 hours to answer to the FARA request, and a month later, Kennedy is killed.
	And then RFK, who's their attorney general of the United States, also gets killed.
	Yeah.
	Trying to get these guys to register under FARA. Well, maybe RFK Jr.
	doesn't want to get killed.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	I guess so, man.
	I guess so.
	But it's just, hey, man.
	Yeah, you guys are getting the real size.
	We got 14,000 plus of you guys in here.
	Is there anything else that you wanted to chat about?
	I mean, we'll be going now for three and a half.
	You're giving the people the value.
	I'm here for you.
	Yeah, hey, man.
	Let's see what questions they got, and then if they got anything good, we'll answer it.
	We'll do a Q&A part, and then we'll close out.
	We discussed so much stuff, man.
	This is a great, great interview.
	Definitely, I'd love to have you back on.
	I think the people really enjoyed it.
	Numek, oh yeah, we got you.
	We got you.
	The reason why, if you guys notice, I played it from YouTube.
	I'm going to drop it on FedReacts.
	I talk about Ryan about this.
	I want to make sure that documentary gets as much exposure as possible.
	Yeah, I posted this earlier.
	Oh, okay.
	Shout out to you.
	I had to go, because I timestamped this, so I had to go find that exact part about the Lyndon B. Johnson part.
	That shit blew me away.
	The special relationship.
	Our president, pardon their spies.
	I think this is Ryan Dawson.
	No, that's not him.
	Okay.
	Court Marshall, Mark Milley.
	Yep, Ryan, that was from Dawson.
	Shout out to you.
	What the fluoride?
	You guys are the true patriots for talking about the real issues.
	We got you, bro.
	I will say this.
	I give Alex Jones.
	He did talk about them putting that shit in the water, making the frogs gay, and then they found later on that it does, in fact, feminize the frogs.
	Look, I mean...
	RFK talked about it later.
	Yeah.
	Life sometimes is stranger than fiction.
	Holy shit, man.
	What else?
	What else here do we got, Mo?
	Or is we caught up?
	No.
	Okay.
	Guys, get your questions in now.
	We're wrapping up here.
	We're going to do a last Q&A part.
	Stock slash crypto trader.
	Doing quite well for myself, but I can't help feel that there is something I'm missing regarding correlation between markets and geopolitical events.
	Any important things to know?
	Well, what I would say is this...
	Take a look at everything they wanted to happen to the Russian economy that didn't happen to the Russian economy and ask yourself why it didn't happen to the Russian economy.
	It's because we don't know and understand the Russian economy.
	And so what I mean by that is if you're relying on data inputs from the West, from the United States, from Europe, to draw conclusions about what's happening in a non-European For instance, Russia, China, Africa, you're probably going to get it wrong.
	That if you want to talk about investments in Africa and Asia, what I would recommend is you start approaching it from a Russian perspective, understanding what the Russian investment strategies are, follow Russia's foreign minister as he goes around.
	Take a look at that.
	Go to the St.
	Petersburg International Economic Forum and take a look at the contracts that are being developed there.
	That's your lead.
	You gave a little bit of a gem earlier.
	You mentioned a city.
	It's up to you if you want to drop it.
	Novosibirsk was the city.
	Novosibirsk?
	Novosibirsk.
	Largest growing city economically in Russia right now.
	And again, I mean, right now because of sanctions, it's impossible to do investments.
	But, you know, it doesn't stop you from, for instance, trying to find out where Russians are investing outside of Russia.
	It's growth.
	It's growth.
	Oh, they mentioned BRIC earlier.
	What are your thoughts on BRICs?
	Do you think we're going to lose reserve currency status soon?
	Well, it's not going to be soon because it's going to take...
	Well, I think the dollar's on the way out.
	I think the United States has a lot of punch left in it.
	We can still go in a ring and do some damage.
	So I'm not going to count the United States out.
	But what I won't do is what other people do, especially old economists from the old school who say that it's impossible for BRICS to supplant the dollar.
	No, it's possible.
	We are heading in that direction.
	Things are trending in that direction.
	And if BRICS can ever get their act together on a common currency or a currency basket, then the dollar could go by.
	especially if we don't change the way we use the dollar.
	If we continue to punish people for using the dollar through sanctions, they're going to run away from the dollar.
	If we continue to steal nation's sovereign wealth that was accrued because they bought into the dollar as the International currency reserve, then people are going to say, well, then we don't want to use the dollar.
	So we're our own worst enemies.
	We can extend the lifespan of the dollar if we just change our approach to how we interface with the rest of the world economically, but we don't because we're arrogant and we've bought into a system that may have worked 30 years ago, but it's not working today, this rules-based international order.
	It's a thing of the past.
	If you're not looking at China, if you're not looking at Russia, if you're not looking at Eurasia, if you're not looking at Africa, you're looking at the wrong things.
	Damn.
	All right.
	We got here.
	That's Jay Rue.
	If we ever take America back, it will be because of people like you all.
	Amen.
	America first, my friends.
	I'm a little confused about America.
	You claim them to be the enemy, but a lot of others claim that Jews have taken over America government.
	So who is making the calls here?
	Also, didn't America fund Taliban's?
	Bunch of questions there.
	Well, the Taliban...
	I can't say that we funded the Taliban.
	We funded the Mujahideen.
	We talked about them earlier.
	Which is Al-Qaeda.
	The Taliban didn't start out as the Mujahideen.
	The Taliban also began as a...
	It's short for Talib, which is a Muslim student.
	It's a term for student.
	And the original head of the Taliban, Mullah Omar...
	It was a former Mujahideen who operated in Kandahar, and he had a school where he was teaching people, basically old-school Wahhabist Islam.
	A family came, had been stopped at a roadblock that was put together by these warlords, and they stole the daughter, the warlords.
	And you know what they were going to do to the daughter.
	Of course.
	So the family came and said, our daughter's been stolen.
	Can you help?
	And Mullah Omar and the Tlaib went and rescued the daughter and executed the people who committed the crime.
	The word got around.
	So people started coming to them and saying, hey, this is happening.
	This is happening.
	So the Tlaib became sort of a religious police force.
	Yeah.
	Boom.
	And as they moved on, Other warlords went, I think we've seen the writing on the wall, and they'd come over to the Tlaib.
	But these might have been former Mujahideen that the United States had funded at one time.
	So that might be where...
	That's where he's getting at.
	But gradually the Taliban, the movement, became this massive movement of people who were...
	It's cause and effect relationship.
	They were responding to the lawlessness that had taken over Afghanistan in the aftermath of the war against the Soviet Union, that period of time after the Soviets left the collapse of the Afghan government.
	There was this civil war taking place between the We're good to go.
	And then he says, you claim them to be the enemy, but a lot of others claim that Jews have taken over American government.
	No, it's not that they have taken over.
	It's that they have strong influence within American politics to make sure that American politics...
	Are involved in the preservation, protection, and benefit of Israel, even if it sometimes doesn't always benefit the United States full well.
	You know what I mean?
	That's what I would say.
	Any politician that comes into power has to have Israeli interests somewhere in their, I guess, what do I want to say here?
	Their repertoire.
	100%.
	Their political repertoire.
	In 1999, I was approached by Jack Kemp.
	He was a big-time Republican.
	He was the Secretary of Housing, Urban and Development under Reagan.
	He was a Congressman from Buffalo, New York, former professional football player for the Buffalo Bills.
	And by the time he approached me, he was seen as being somewhat of a kingmaker for the Republican Party.
	And he said, we want you to consider running for Congress.
	And I said, I have no interest in running for Congress.
	And he said, well, come and talk to us.
	I said, okay.
	So I went to a house in Westchester, New York, and there were a lot of people there.
	Many of them were from the—I mean, many of them were Old Hill Anglo-Saxon wasp money.
	But many of them I knew from— My experience after my resignation when I was courted by APAC and courted by...
	The boys.
	The money.
	And basically, they had come together and the decision was that they were going to fund my run for Congress, that they were going to pick a district, a safe district, that I'd be guaranteed shoo-in.
	But the interesting thing is...
	They never approached me about my position on Israel because it was assumed that I was a friend of Israel, that I would never do anything to question.
	I wish they had asked me questions because I could have disabused them of that.
	Instead, we had a discussion about two topics because they were all sitting there going, we love you, we love you.
	I said, you don't even know me.
	Who am I? Well, they knew what you had done before, right, for Israel before with the Iraqi situation.
	But the other guys are going, You're the best thing since sliced bread.
	You're wonderful.
	I said, well, ask me two questions then.
	And Jack Kemp's going, no, no, no, don't do this.
	Don't do it.
	It's a done deal.
	Yeah.
	No, you're in.
	Shut up.
	I said, ask me two questions.
	He said, well, I said, ask me my opinion on abortion.
	They said, what's your opinion on abortion?
	And I said, you know, I'm the father of twin daughters.
	I can't imagine life without them.
	I can't imagine anything that would have prevented them from coming in.
	So I believe in the sanctity of life.
	I believe that they had to come into this world.
	I couldn't imagine terminating that pregnancy and all that.
	They're like, yeah, baby, yeah, baby.
	And then I said, but it's not my choice.
	I said, I don't get to make that decision.
	It's sort of the woman who's carrying the baby's decision.
	She gets a vote.
	She gets a vote on this one.
	They're like, no, that's the wrong answer.
	I said, well, ask me another one.
	I said, okay.
	Ask me about gun control.
	I said, how about that?
	I said, I love guns, man.
	I'm a Marine.
	It goes bang.
	I love it.
	Give me a gun.
	Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	But I said, Not everybody should have a gun.
	A gun is a responsible thing.
	I said, I'm a big believer that you've got to have training if you're going to use a firearm.
	I'm not against registering your firearms.
	We register just about everything else.
	I think we need to treat guns with the respect that they demand.
	Felons can't have them.
	Criminals, yeah.
	And so he's like, they're like, crowd disappeared.
	Just dispersed.
	Jack Kemp's going...
	You were there, man.
	You were there.
	And I said, I was never there, Jack, because I can't play the game.
	Yeah.
	Fair enough.
	The political game.
	Compromising what you believe in.
	I can't.
	I'm not saying that my position is right.
	People can disagree with me.
	Of course.
	I'm saying it's my position.
	It's your position.
	Yeah.
	And so if I was going to be elected into Congress and you're anticipating that I'm going to take a different position, I can't.
	It can't be bought.
	Amen.
	It is what it is, man.
	What else here do we got?
	A few more of these chats.
	Are we in continuity of government currently?
	Why did Biden have a three-gun salute and not a 21 like Trump?
	Why was he sworn into office before 12 in violation of the Constitution?
	I can't answer any of those questions.
	Yeah, that's unique stuff.
	Rives goes, Hey Scott, Team ANC report here.
	Have you spoken to Douglas Valentine and the CIA having a hand in Ukraine?
	And do you think they are involved in the Maidan massacre?
	I haven't spoken to Douglas Valentine.
	I'll be more than happy to.
	I do believe the CIA has an extensive hand in what's going on in Ukraine.
	Who's Doug Valentine?
	Apparently he's somebody who deals with the CIA. I don't know.
	I'm going to have to do the research on this and find out who he is.
	Fair enough.
	Do I think the CIA was involved in the Maidan massacre?
	Yes, absolutely.
	The CIA had a relationship with the Western Ukrainian nationalists.
	The Nazis.
	The Nazis.
	Bingo.
	You know, the CIA is involved with that group, and I think the CIA was involved in providing assistance, providing guidance, etc.
	These are the people that broke into police stations and barracks in western Ukraine and took weapons and brought those weapons to Kiev and turned what had been a peaceful protest into a violent demonstration.
	Okay.
	We got here, Taufik goes, what does Scott think about the Egyptian soldier who went across the Egyptian-Israeli border and shine, killed three Israeli soldiers, WFNF and free top G's?
	I don't know enough about that.
	What I do know is that it's not as black and white as people think that there might have been something about smuggling and that the Israelis were actually involved in illegal smuggling operations and that the Egyptian soldier was investigating the smuggling thing and he got caught up in breaking up the wrong thing.
	It's not as black and white.
	Some people think that it was about him going across and just murdering Israelis, but apparently when people look at the videotape, there's some strange smuggling stuff going on.
	Interesting.
	And guys, we're not here talking about, oh yeah, you know, fuck Israel and Jews need to die.
	Absolutely not, man.
	I mean, it's literally a...
	It's terrible.
	It's any time anyone loses their life.
	You know, I mean, obviously, I wish there was peace in the Middle East.
	But realistically speaking, I just don't see it happening.
	There's been too much bloodshed.
	There's been too much history.
	The Palestinians aren't going to back down.
	The Israelis are going to back down.
	Both parties feel as though they're entitled to that land and they're not going to stop.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's just an unfortunate situation.
	But hey, we're just reporting facts here.
	Professor Ritter, honor your integrity to the U.S. secrets.
	You've probably seen some crazy shit out there.
	What is the proper balance of releasing information, and when did them boys get some power?
	Them boys is how we refer to the Jews.
	When we're on YouTube, we do that and hit the sound effect.
	Well, I mean, I would say that to answer the part about when did the Israeli influence, Jewish influence, and government...
	Started organized crime, I would say, in the early 1900s.
	Yeah, yeah, but, you know, Italians had organized crime.
	Yeah, lucky Luciano working hand-in-hand with Mayor Lansky and controlling the ports and, you know, and then the surplus weapons of the United States from World War II being shipped back to Israel.
	I mean, those all had a critical component in them being able to beat the Palestinians and take over and create an Israeli state.
	It wasn't until after the Six-Day War, though, that Israel became a vehicle of empowerment for American Jews.
	Prior to that, American Jews were actually sort of standoffish on Israel.
	They didn't know quite what to make of it, etc.
	It wasn't a thing yet.
	I think it took the Six-Day War to...
	It's when the Israelis defeated the combined armies of Syria, Jordan, and Egypt, and they got this status of being this superpower and all this stuff.
	Jerusalem now was under Israeli control, and so religious Jews began.
	And I think at that point, the dynamic changed on how Israel and Jewishness was treated in America.
	And it's sad because if you look at Islam and Judaism, they're very closely linked together.
	I mean, we both believe in one God.
	Muslims can eat kosher meat versus we can't eat meat prepared by other religions if it's not slaughtered a certain way.
	It's sad that we have so many similarities, but so many differences as well, and they can't get along.
	No, I mean, my understanding is Islam, you know, Jewish and Christians are people of the book.
	Yeah, I mean, all the Abrahamic religions, right?
	Christianity, Judaism, Islam.
	But yeah, especially with Islam and Judaism, it's very similar.
	Well, I don't think the problem is Judaism anymore.
	I think the problem is Zionism.
	Yeah.
	That's the problem.
	It's not that Jewish people can't get along with Muslim people.
	Zionists can't get along with Muslim people.
	Even better distinction.
	Yes, absolutely.
	You're correct.
	Because there's a lot of Jewish people that aren't Zionists.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	And this is where I don't disagree with you on how difficult peace will be.
	But I think the more Zionism can be de-emphasized and de-legitimized without Seeking to delegitimize Jewishness, the better chance we have at peace.
	The more that Jews and Muslims don't view each other as incompatible, but rather view each other the way they should be under history, which are people of the book, people who...
	And this goes back to what you were saying, how Orthodox Jews were the number one enemy of Israel because they were anti-Zionist, if I'm not mistaken.
	Yes.
	That was a bombshell, by the way, when you dropped that, man.
	I don't know how we're going to get rid of Israel.
	And this was in the 90s, just for the audience that might have missed that.
	In the 90s, the top enemy for Israel was Orthodox Jews.
	Not Iraq, not Syria.
	You played a hand in, actually, Iraq going down the list and priorities.
	That's crazy, bro.
	But the Israelis, you know...
	Zionism is the problem.
	Not because I'm saying that the Israeli state can't exist.
	First of all, it does exist.
	And it's a reality.
	It's recognized now.
	And it has to be a reality forever.
	The concept of make Israel disappear just isn't a realistic solution.
	No, not anymore.
	But the Zionists, by embracing the concept of a Jewish-only state and stuff...
	See, that's being exclusionary of the Palestinians.
	It's true.
	And so until you find a way...
	And they were there first at the end of the day.
	Yeah, until you find...
	But even then, I encourage people to drop that argument because it's not constructive.
	Yeah.
	Because that then implies that because they were there first, maybe we can consider a situation where these Jewish people aren't there anymore.
	No.
	They're there.
	Yeah.
	All that.
	The Palestinians have equal claim to the land.
	Yep.
	What we have to do is find a way that they...
	This is the danger of Zionism.
	Zionism creates a world where Palestinian rights aren't allowed to factor in because the only rights then become that of the Jews.
	Yeah.
	You have to defeat that.
	That's why defeating Zionism is so important.
	When I say defeating Zionism, I'm not saying defeating Israel.
	I'm not saying make Israel go away.
	What I'm saying is getting rid of the mindset that says only Jews can live here.
	And the people that have caused the most problems for the Israelis are these Russian and Ukrainian immigrants that came in in the 1990s and afterwards.
	Because they don't respect the Palestinians.
	They don't respect the history of the region.
	They came in and they don't identify with the Palestinians.
	They say, we're Jews.
	We're the ones that matter.
	This land is ours.
	This land is for us.
	And they're very dismissive.
	And it's been very disruptive of Israel.
	And it's made it almost impossible for peace.
	Crazy, man.
	And it's wild because if you talk about these things on YouTube, you're canceled.
	Yeah.
	Thoughts on Nick Fuentes, the future president of America?
	Okay.
	He's going to be on...
	We're going to have him on July 7th, guys.
	So, shout out to Nick Fuentes.
	I don't agree with everything he says, but he is right about a lot of things, and I do agree that if you can't be a contract here, I don't think you could be America, first of all, simultaneously calling yourself a Zionist.
	It just doesn't work.
	But the thing about listening to people, I don't know Nick Fuentes from Adam.
	I mean, I know who he is, but I don't know him.
	But the beauty of it is, if you claim to be an American, a citizen of the United States of America, that means that you're somebody who adheres to the Constitution.
	And the First Amendment is free speech.
	And the key thing about free speech isn't just our ability to speak freely.
	But it's our ability to speak freely in the context of constructive civil dialogues, debate, dialogue and discussion.
	That means that people who have differences of opinion, rather than shouting it out, Talk it out as humans, as men, as women, as equals, and be respectful of differences of opinion.
	Focus on fact, not on ideologies, feelings.
	Because facts will generally lead you in the right direction.
	The other thing about facts do is they will better identify the differences that you have so that you can, in a civil fashion, seek to find a common solution.
	We could solve half the problems that America faces today if we would just sit down and treat each other with respect and have dialogues, have discussions.
	Prioritize truth over feelings.
	I mean, look at the fucking clown rule we got with the 99 genders.
	Don't get me going.
	Because that's the other thing that's going to get me killed.
	I have to tell you, traveling to Russia was...
	None of that fuckery over there.
	Oh, none of it.
	It's not tolerant.
	Two genders.
	But here's the thing about the Russians.
	They get a bad rap about homosexuality.
	They say, oh, the Russians are intolerant of homosexuality.
	That's just not true.
	The Russian approach on homosexuality is very simple.
	What you do in your bedrooms is your own damn business.
	We don't care.
	What we don't want is for you to come out and attack traditional family values and seek to supplant it.
	Don't come for the children.
	Don't come for the nuclear family.
	You do what you want to do.
	And when you're out here We know who you are, and we're not going to...
	There are many...
	I mean, the guys were telling me, hardcore Russian nuclear family people, they're like, we know who the gays are.
	And we're friends with them.
	They have high positions.
	We don't care.
	As long as they don't turn it into a movement that says...
	You know, traditional family values are supplanted, that this becomes the thing, all that.
	And that's all that the Russians are doing.
	And the other thing that the Russians say is, you know, the more the West seeks to try and push diverse politics, the more harm they do to homosexual and transgender communities in Russia.
	That if you just let the Russians do their business, there will be harmony.
	Yeah.
	But the second you try to promote something, now you've turned it into a threat.
	Keep your degeneracy to yourself is really what it comes down to.
	What you do in your bedroom is what you do in your bedroom.
	As long as no one's getting hurt and everybody's a consenting adult, it's your business.
	When you bring it out into the street, I don't know.
	I mean, this last Pride Parade thing that happened in America just saddened me, to be honest.
	What do we got here?
	Mo, are we good?
	Oh, okay.
	Alright, so we got here.
	Dapper Dave, Marion, in your assessment of Trump's case, you don't mention it's Trump's right to declassify the document as president.
	To me, this is the central core of the case.
	Everything else is secondary.
	No, my friend, and I already explained this.
	Number one, he didn't declassify some of the documents.
	But let's go ahead under the presumption that he did.
	It doesn't matter.
	Having national defense information, regardless of classification, is a violation.
	That's what you are missing, my friend.
	NDI, regardless of classification, is NDI, and it's a violation of the Espionage Act.
	Done.
	Pilo Kezink goes, Hey guys, USAAF hopeful here, appreciating the lineup of absolute goats.
	Just wanted to get Scott's thoughts on the possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan and how the U.S. could fare Okay, we'll come back to that question.
	I'm going to read the rest of these chats and we'll close out with that one.
	Trevon Suki goes, Professor, last question.
	There's a rumor Russians are pretty racist towards black people.
	Is that true?
	I would like to be safe when I visit.
	And then what was the last one here, Amo?
	Dex Lexus, thoughts on JFK implementing the United States notes backed by gold right before his death and LBJ bringing back the Federal Reserve notes when he became president.
	Okay, so I guess we can attack.
	The easiest one is, are Russians racist towards blacks?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Fair enough.
	Not ugly racist, but ignorant racist.
	What I mean is...
	You make black music.
	Well, they have...
	Because Russians don't interface with black people...
	On a regular basis.
	They're susceptible to being conditioned by cultural references and things.
	Yeah, what do they see in the media?
	Bingo.
	Bullshit.
	So if you're in an all-white Russian town, as most Russian towns are, and on media you're seeing things...
	Hip-hop music, Cardi B, all this bullshit you see.
	So now when you see a black person...
	You simply project all that onto that person.
	And that's the problem.
	It's not deliberate racism, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
	I'm not trying to excuse it.
	I'm just trying to put it into a context.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So people understand.
	But the other thing I'll say is that it's not hateful racism.
	It's ignorance.
	It's ignorance.
	And the moment you confront the Russians with...
	They rapidly adapt.
	Yeah.
	So that if you're a black American or a black person who shows up there and you are who you are, they will respect you for who you are.
	All the pre, you know, all the things that they may have thought about black people disappear.
	And instead they focus on you.
	They're able to see you as a human being.
	Disprove the stereotypes, guys.
	I talk about this all the time.
	As a color person myself, I will not sit here and make excuses and cry for racism, blah, blah, blah, because I've said it before.
	Other parts of the world are way more racist.
	Japan, same thing.
	Extremely racist, right?
	And they're racist towards anyone that's not Japanese, right?
	Homogenous nations in general are almost always going to be racist.
	It is what it is, guys.
	It's on you to not perpetuate the stereotype.
	But I also say this about the Russians.
	You compare them, for instance, to the Poles.
	The Poles will hate you because you're black, and they'll never give you a chance.
	Fair enough.
	The Russians don't hate...
	The Russians are just ignorant about certain things.
	And the moment they become informed, educated, they're actually some of the most tolerant people.
	Like I said, this is a culture that respects differences of religion, differences of everything.
	So because your skin color is a certain color, once they are able to contextualize it and put it into a realistic perspective, they're extraordinarily tolerant people.
	Fair enough.
	Amen.
	Just don't go over there acting like a fool.
	You'll be straight.
	Pillow, he goes, he mentioned, this one is a little bit more of a longer answer, right?
	With the Chinese invasion of Taiwan.
	And then this one is, LBJ bringing back the Federal Reserve notes when he became President JFK implementing the United States notes backed by gold right before his death.
	I can't address that.
	I don't know anything about that.
	Guys, just so you know, I'm going to talk about JFK in detail with Ryan Dawson.
	We're going to talk about who actually was behind killing him.
	Who actually knows that.
	Ryan will answer that question.
	Yeah, Ryan has studied JFK to a whole other level.
	We're going to do a little podcast on that.
	Ryan scares me.
	Yeah.
	I met Ryan in Texas for the first time, and he came off as a smart guy, but he also came off as a...
	He had these charts, the chart and everything.
	And I'm just looking at it going, because I've had people approach me in the past.
	They're like, you know, here's my assessment of this and that.
	And I'm looking at it and I look down and I'm just like, nah.
	So he gives me this stuff and I'm the same thing.
	I looked at it and I went, Wait a minute.
	This actually makes sense.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait.
	What the?
	Then the guy talks, and he has such a casual approach, but you're just sitting there, and he's talking, and I'm trying to find the chinks in his argument.
	I'm like, there's no chinks in his argument.
	That son of a bitch has done his homework.
	He's got all the answers, but he does it in such a polite way.
	I'm sure he's looked at me a couple times going, Ritter, you're an idiot.
	And I am.
	I'll be the first one to admit it.
	But he's polite about it.
	He's like, there's some more you need to learn about this, boss.
	And I understand.
	That's how I view life.
	I have to learn more about everything.
	Absolutely.
	And I think that's the way to go.
	And I think talking to other people that are well-versed in things.
	But he's a gift.
	He's a gift that should be...
	I'm glad that you guys are talking because he's a gift and I wish more people would listen to him.
	Yeah, absolutely, man.
	I pursue the truth, man.
	So any guys like you, guys like Dawson that have been suppressed by cancel culture or whatever, hey, man, y'all can come on Fresh and Fit, man.
	I will platform the people that other people are too fucking scared to platform.
	I appreciate it.
	Of course, man.
	That's what it's about.
	Last one here.
	Okay.
	Just wanted to get Scott's thoughts on a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan and how the U.S. would fare in its defense.
	This is a good damn question.
	Go ahead.
	Take it away, Scott.
	First of all, we have to understand that China does not want to invade Taiwan.
	China has a one-China policy.
	Can we see the chat, Mo, please?
	A one-China policy.
	It wants the peaceful unification.
	They look at Taiwan as an economic multiplier for them.
	They want that economy working with them.
	And they have said straight up that Our policy is the peaceful unification.
	However, if they are required to respond to provocations such as Taiwan wanting to become independent or nations treating Taiwan like they were an independent nation, then China would have to use military force to rectify.
	That means invade Taiwan and bring this to an end.
	It appeared that the United States was pushing China in that direction.
	We were trying to provoke...
	When we're going into the airspace and the water space?
	Well, not just that, but we're sending military trainers to Taiwan.
	We're sending Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan.
	We're doing things that make China appear to be...
	So I was very...
	I had an interview that was done...
	In the fall of last year.
	And I was very negative.
	I believe that we were heady towards a war with China.
	And here's the bad thing about a war with China.
	We can't win.
	China will beat us.
	You don't think so?
	No.
	Straight up defeat.
	Because first of all...
	What would you say to all the people that would say, you're wrong.
	America has the best army.
	We spend the most on military spending in the world.
	There's no way that we would lose.
	We have...
	Air, better, superior air, superior submarine, superior Navy.
	I agree with the superior submarines.
	I'm not against that.
	But what I'll say is this.
	Let's talk air for a second.
	Sure.
	Because now we're getting to my strength.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	This is your wheelhouse.
	Where are we going to fly from, guys?
	Aircraft carriers?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What's the combat radius of the F-18 Hornet?
	We don't need to know it right off the bat, but just say it's a knowable range.
	China has missiles that outrange the Hornet.
	China's missiles cannot be shot down by our anti-missile systems.
	So as we bring an aircraft carrier in to get within strike range with the F-18 Hornets, it's going to be sunk.
	Or it's going to be attacked.
	It's going to be damaged.
	Its flight operations are going to be disrupted.
	It's not going to have freedom.
	We're so used to flying off the coast of Afghanistan and just taking off and launching sorties.
	We forget that what happens when the enemy starts shooting back at us, ships get sunk.
	And the Chinese have been developing missiles.
	Designed to sink American aircraft.
	Would you say we're also at a disadvantage because we have to put ourselves in a fighting position and that means that we're going to have to get closer to China and closer to Taiwan in general?
	We have to get closer to their strengths.
	Yeah.
	They ain't moving, we're moving.
	Yeah, which puts us at an inevitable disadvantage.
	So now it's the Air Force going to take off from Guam.
	To take off from Guam, remember airplanes need fuel.
	So as they approach their target, what's their fuel status?
	You know, is it going to be a Doolittle mission, one-way mission, drop bombs and die?
	No, we don't operate that way.
	So we're going to need tankers, which require combat air patrol to protect the tankers, which eats up assets.
	Now we refuel, we come back.
	We're over there.
	We have to project power to project them over there.
	Where are those planes going to come?
	More fuelers.
	You start adding up the amount of aircraft that we're talking about.
	It's a huge amount of aircraft.
	We don't have enough aircraft to do this.
	Now, the other thing is air transport.
	Rand Corporation just published a study that says that we don't have enough military airlift to sustain this fight because it's logistics.
	If you don't do logistics right, you lose.
	We can't move things around.
	Remember, we're coming to their strength.
	We're coming to Taiwan.
	China can project power around Taiwan that we can't penetrate.
	So, with all due respect to people that say, we got this thing hands down, I'll tell you, we got nothing hands down.
	you start sinking carriers, you're killing a lot of Americans.
	What do we do when you put a carrier down?
	We're going to put a nuke on the ground.
	That's the problem.
	Now we're in a nuclear conflict with China.
	We don't want a war.
	This is a war we'll lose.
	It has a danger of going nuclear.
	The good news is...
	Russia would probably help China as well.
	There's no doubt Russia would come to the assistance of China in the Pacific theater.
	The good news is that there's an election in November 2024.
	Not an American election, a Taiwanese election.
	And the current government, which is very pro-independence, pro-America, is going to be voted out.
	And what's going to replace them is an opposition run by the Kuomintang Party.
	What are they doing right now?
	military delegations over, they're traveling to China and working with the Chinese Communist Party to talk about how better to integrate the two economies.
	This is why Tony Blinken just went to China, because America realized that we are literally boxing ourselves out of being able to leverage any influence over the situation, that if we put all our ducks, all our money on the current government that if we put all our ducks, all our money on the current government in Taiwan, after the election, we're going We better make our own goddamn chip factories, which they're starting to do, I think.
	We're working on that, but it's not just about chip factories, about any policy, any leverage.
	So we're going to a policy neutral stance so that wherever we are, and this means by going policy neutral, we're going to de-emphasize the military, and I think you're going to see a de-escalation of the tension.
	I don't think you're going to see American ships sailing through the Taiwan strait aggressively anymore, because the Chinese have put us on notice that they will ram a ship into us because they don't recognize our claims about freedom of navigation.
	They say under international law, especially if America says we believe in one China policy, that means Taiwan is China.
	So that coastline is China.
	The other coastline is China, which means there's no international strait.
	So the Chinese are fed up with this.
	I think also the United States, not only do we realize that we're going to be politically isolated, but I think there's a growing recognition in the Pentagon that we can't win a war against China.
	So...
	Wow.
	That was a great discussion, man.
	This was definitely one of my favorite podcasts.
	We've been going for four and a half hours now.
	You guys got a lot of sauce.
	Scott, where can the people find you, man, to get more content like this?
	ScottRitterExtra.com is the best place to go.
	Everything I publish gets put up there.
	My sub stack or anything I publish for the other outlets.
	Also, any of the links that I do.

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