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May 23, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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Welcome to the Fresh Shit Podcast, After Hours Edition.
I'm back!
Let's get into it!
Let's go Money cares bro Bro, get out.
Get out.
It's the night, kinda, kinda.
In the night, no control.
Go.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
I know that I did not know what would seem.
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it.
It's time to love.
We are here, guys.
What's up?
Welcome to the Fresh Shift Podcast.
My respect.
Yes, I am back, guys.
I know y'all hated the last show or some shit.
Goddamn.
No, I didn't want to debate.
I was just too chill about it, so it's fine.
It's fine, man.
Yo, y'all were roasting Fresh Shift comments.
Goddamn.
Fresh Shift speed round through the fucking banners.
Yeah, that was the quickest.
Bro, I looked up the show.
It was already done.
But I was home.
I was like, what the fuck?
Listen.
This guy's special is like, yo, let's get this one out of here.
Play Rolo.
Play Rolo.
Two hours, okay?
Two hours, bro.
You know, I know it's bad when you did the announcement so fast, even Chris was like, oh shit, wait, hold on.
What the hell's going on here?
Real quick, we're getting to the show, guys.
Rumble.com slash FreshFit.
As you guys know, we'll probably get kicked off the internet anytime.
Now, we got MLD on the panel.
Apparently, he advocates for girls getting beat up by their boyfriends.
So, go ahead and catch us one.
They took it out of context.
They took it out of context, but it is what it is.
So we're probably going to get canceled along with MLD, so check us out on rumble.com slash freshfit.
Also, freshfit.locals.com.
Guys, get all the behind-the-scenes content there.
Check us out on the microphone if you guys want to get the audio version of the podcast.
Just make sure you wear headphones, especially with this podcast.
And then also get the merch, freshfitpodcaststore.com.
Unplugged fitness shirts.
Chris's bum shirt is live in store is my favorite one.
I was wearing it in the gym today to motivate myself even more.
And get that shirt.
That's my favorite shirt at the gym.
And then also, guys, check out our clips channel.
It's called Fresh Fit Clips on there.
We post six videos per day and then 10 shorts.
So go check us out over there on Fresh Fit Clips.
And we also got more FNF clips as well.
And, Mo, we can hear your fat ass in the back.
And then also, check out Fresh's vlog channel.
Guys, if you want a behind-the-scenes man, check out the vlog channel.
We do shorts as well.
Pretty funny.
And whenever we travel, we record our escapades.
Also as well, guys, we're dropping the meetup on the 27th of May, which is just Saturday for the CEO Network.
If you're not in there, you missed out.
Once again, 200K on the way.
Let's go.
Cool.
And check me out, guys, on my YouTube channel.
It's called FedReacts on there.
I break down criminal cases for you guys.
Not formally, Fed1811, but now it's FedReacts, so it's easier for you guys to find.
The last episode I did, I did The Son of Sam.
A lot of you guys wanted that one.
You guys have been requesting it for a minute.
It was almost a three-hour-long broadcast.
We broke down the Satanic cult, the multiple shooters.
We went through all of it.
Yeah, dude, it was some wild shit.
You should also add FedReacts with helpers.
Wink, wink.
Oh.
Shout out to Angie and Kim for helping me out with that show.
But no, it was great, man.
Angie and Kim?
Angie and Kim?
Yeah, both.
Double trouble.
Bro, grow up, man.
Grow up.
Arifasaka, man.
Oh, wow.
Arifasaka.
Arifasaka.
But yeah, this Thursday, guys, I'm going to drop an episode on the Colombo crime family of Michael Francisco.
I think I'm going to do a live interview with him for you guys.
So yeah, go ahead and check that one out.
We did an interview with him as well last week for Money Monday.
He was a capo for the Colombo crime boss.
Sorry, he was a capo for the Colombo crime family.
Sorry, for the mafia back in the 70s and 80s.
But yeah, guys, go check it out.
Son of Sam.
And then Chris, you're good.
Yes, sir.
Ladies, DM me R.C. Poxon on IG. Because, you know, order the book, why women deserve less.
So, guys, ladies, DM me R.C. Poxon on IG. Make sure that when you tell me a DM, nice and precise.
I want any paragraphs, show me some photos, and let's make it happen.
Yeah, guys, go ahead and get my book.
It's in stores.
I forgot about that.
Wait, French laughing, nigga?
Because last Friday, man, the fucking chat was like riding with pitchforks and shit.
He was like...
Yo, Chris, you're hilarious, bro.
Anytime.
It's funny because anytime Chris stutters, Chris starts laughing.
So that's what they do.
They make fun of each other.
They're both their inability to speak.
Oh, that's funny.
But yeah, guys.
Oh, I forgot to mention.
Go get my book, Why Women Deserve Less.
I got a hardcover, softcover, Kindle, and Audible if you're retarded and can't read.
So go ahead and check it out over there.
Why Women Deserve Less.
It's only 80 pages or so because, well, women deserve less.
All right.
All right.
Let's go ahead and introduce some ladies.
Welcome back to Redbook Programming.
And then our special guest, John from AutoLife Daily.
So ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name.
Your age.
What you do for a living.
Dating status.
And if you want to, of course.
Your body count.
And we're going to start right here.
Welcome.
Hi.
Okay.
I'm Mel.
I'm 19.
And right now for a living, I'm just in college.
I go to school.
Where are you from originally?
Jersey.
Okay.
What part of Jersey?
Up north by the city.
I don't know if you were being specific, like near Newark, like that area, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Can you see Manhattan from where you live?
Yes.
Oh, you're right there.
Yes, right there, next to the city.
Speaking of seeing Manhattan from where you are in New Jersey, guys, we're going to have the episode of Ryan Dawson and 9-11, by the way.
That just triggered my memory.
You guys have been asking forever.
It's going to be this Friday.
Okay, you're in college right now, right?
Yeah.
Come on, man, grow up.
And then, full-time student, and then what's your relationship status?
I am single.
All right, cool.
I said that with a smile.
Welcome back.
Hey, my name is Sarah.
I'm 25.
I am from Michigan.
I live here in Miami now.
And I'm a social media manager and UGC content creator for a living.
Highest achieved.
I have a bachelor's.
Bachelor's in what?
I have a communications degree.
I know it's pointless.
I don't use it.
I don't use it.
My mom really wanted to graduate.
You might as well have majored in psychology like a real loser.
I might as well have not went, but I wanted to make mommy happy.
What part of Michigan are you from for the people?
Like 45 minutes south of Detroit, small town called Temperance, closer to Toledo, Ohio.
Okay.
What about you?
My name is Ashley.
I'm 26.
I'm from Long Island, New York, and I'm a copywriter for the health and wellness industry.
You're from Strong Island?
Yep.
The wrong island, honestly.
That's a first.
Okay.
And then you said you're a copywriter?
For the health and wellness industry.
How long have you been a copywriter?
I just started my business in January, actually.
Do you like it?
Do you join Hustlers University?
Yeah.
I love it.
I've always been a writer, so it was just kind of a natural fit for me.
But at the same time, I am still pursuing my bachelor's in management information systems.
Okay, so you're still in college.
Management information systems is a business degree at FAU. All right, FAU. Sweet.
And then what is your relationship status?
My boyfriend and I just celebrated five years last month.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
All right.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Sarah.
I'm 30 years old.
Wait, 30?
That was Chris.
Where are you from?
I'm originally from Boston and I've been living in Miami for the past six months now.
Okay.
And I'm taken.
You're corrupted.
What do you do for her?
I do OnlyFans.
Hold on, hold on.
Why does everyone from Boston come to Miami?
I'm curious.
Have you been to Boston?
Yeah, why?
They do.
I don't know.
I came here for a guy and after we broke up, I just stayed here.
Boston's a high-tax shithole.
Oh.
Are you actually from the city?
I live right outside in Revere.
You guys got a shitty beach over there.
Yeah, I think it's a little north of Boston, right?
Yeah, it's about 20 minutes outside.
You said you do OF, and then what's your highest education level completed?
I went to high school.
Okay, completed high school.
And then, I'm assuming you completed high school, right?
Yes.
Alright, good.
And then, relationship status, how long have you been together?
Two months now.
Okay.
Does he do OnlyFans as well?
No, he doesn't.
Okay, alright.
Does he approve?
He's okay with it, but he wants to have threesomes in exchange.
This guy's ready to settle down.
You put it on your OnlyFans or not?
Do I put threesomes on my leg?
You're stuffed with your guy.
No, I only actually work with girls.
Oh, okay.
Right.
No guy ever likes Holy Pins.
They're either going to not approve or try to finagle away something out of it.
Fantastic.
All right.
What about you?
Hi, I'm the grandma here.
You're the grandma.
Okay.
I am 32.
I'm Liz.
What's your name?
Liz.
Oh, Liz.
Okay.
I'm from Mexico.
Okay.
Okay.
And I'm a fashion...
What part of Mexico are you from?
Sinaloa.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Culiacán, Sinaloa.
Did we make sure that we checked it for drugs before?
They take everything from me when I came in.
They take everything from me when I came out.
What do you do for work?
I am a fashion stylist.
Oh, that's what they all say.
Fashion stylist.
Do you work with athletes or famous people when you say fashion style?
Okay, so you do their dressing for them.
I am dressing somebody for red carpet for Cannes the next week.
Okay.
I do Famous, I do fashion shops, Chanel, The Che Guevane, Brands.
Okay.
And then, what's your highest education level completed?
I had a master's degree in international trade.
Okay.
Where'd you get it from?
In Mexico?
Yes.
And I have my master here for director...
Wait, you make me nervous.
Sorry.
For creative director.
Wait, creative what?
Director.
I make magazines.
Where'd you get it from?
What?
Is it Tutu Marangoni?
It's a fashion school in the same district.
It's a fashion school.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
I just got divorced.
Just got divorced?
Yes.
Okay.
How long ago?
In January.
Oh, shit.
Who initiated the divorce, you or him?
Me.
Okay.
Well, I'm not surprised.
Thank you.
And you said you're 32, right?
I am.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Christy.
I'm 29.
I'm a realtor in Florida, so buying, selling, renting in Florida, I can help you.
I have a pet care business called The Pets Home Away From Home.
If you need any care, I got you.
And then I have an online jewelry business that sells handmade chokers like the one I'm wearing.
Okay.
And glitter eyeshadow and reused or used luxury items.
So any of those all help to feed and...
Wait, jewelry, realtor, and what was the third thing?
Something care?
Oh, pet care.
Pet care, okay.
So, like, you walk dogs and stuff?
I walk dogs, board dogs, daycare, anything.
I administer medication, everything to do with animals.
I got you.
And then, what's your highest education level completed?
Bachelor's in business.
Okay, cool.
Where'd you get it from?
Broward.
Oh, shit.
The University of Broward?
Broward, Broward College.
954, shit.
All right.
It's going down.
And what's your relationship status?
I am single.
Single?
And where are you from?
Well, I... Palmdale Beach.
Oh, that's some money!
It's getting better.
Palmdale Beach has got better, bro.
Hell no!
It's getting better, bro.
Come on, man.
I bought a house out there.
Come on.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Cleaning that city up.
Cleaning it up slowly but surely, man.
It's going up.
What about you?
My name is Audrey.
I'm 18.
I'm currently unemployed, and my highest level of education is high school education.
Okay.
I'm single, and I've been single for three years.
All right.
Damn.
Straight to the point.
Yeah, she got it all.
One shot.
Cool.
Fantastic.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Christina.
I'm from Serbia.
I moved to Miami two years ago.
I'm 28, and I do marketing for my parents' company.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
You said you do marketing.
What's your highest education level completed?
Bachelor's in International Business in the University of Austria.
Okay.
You look familiar.
I've seen you somewhere before.
Where?
A club.
For sure.
Vendome.
Definitely.
Okay, okay.
It never misses, man.
Can't miss, man.
And what's your relationship status?
Single.
Okay.
Got to be single.
How should we be moving?
What'd you see, bro?
Nothing!
That top screen is single.
Yeah, right?
You look good.
I'm distracted.
Sorry.
My name is Arielle.
I'm 19.
I'm in college, and I'm from Jersey.
Okay.
What part of Jersey are you from?
Same as her, close to Newark.
Are you guys friends?
Yeah.
Okay.
And you said you're in college right now?
Yes.
No work, full-time student?
Well, I work.
I work at Dairy Queen.
Wait, those still exist?
Yeah, the last girl I told her, she was the Dairy Queen.
Because what's the other place that went out of business?
Friendly's.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I figured like Dairy Queen would be right behind it.
But Dairy Queen sells food actually.
So the question is, do you like vanilla or chocolate?
Like trash food.
Dairy Queen.
Sometimes swirl, sometimes vanilla, sometimes chocolate.
Okay.
I like that answer.
Very good answer.
She gotta be all-inclusive.
All-inclusive.
2023, bro.
Open-minded.
Okay, and then you're in college, you said, and single relationships?
Okay, cool.
What about you?
My name is Tiffany.
I'm from Wallsley, Massachusetts.
I live here in Miami now.
I moved here last year.
Wait, how old are you?
Sorry.
Twenty-one.
And then you said Wallsley, Mass?
Yeah, Wallsley, Mass.
Okay.
Highest education level completed?
Yeah, I got my bachelor's from Brigham Young University in Utah and the working real estate here.
I do Airbnbs.
Are you Mormon?
Religious.
W. John Smith.
Welcome back.
Okay.
And then single?
Single.
Okay.
And real estate in Miami now.
Yeah.
And I'm in pharmacy school.
Okay.
Shit.
Welcome back, Ling Ling.
Konnichiwa.
Welcome back.
And I know the chat's going to want to know, where are you originally from?
What country?
Yeah, I'm Chinese.
Chinese.
You say you're in pharmacy school?
Like what, pharmacy tech?
Because pharmacy school is med school.
Med school, yeah.
You're in med school?
Pharmacy school, yeah.
Pharmacy, you get a PhD, not a doctor.
Huh?
Pharmacy, you get a PhD.
No, it's not.
It's MD. No, just a doctor.
Did they change that?
Because it used to be a PhD.
Are you getting an MD? No, it's different.
MD is something different.
Pharmacists don't need an MD in America?
It's a PhD.
No, it's just doctor or pharmacy.
If you graduate from high school, you can get that in six, seven years.
I wonder if they change that because I started in pharmacy school, though, and it was going to be a PhD.
Interesting.
You get called doctor after.
And then there's some schools, like I remember Northeastern, you could do your four-year, and then you do another two years on top of it to shave a year off.
All in one shot, you get both your degrees.
Six years to become a pharmacist?
That's not bad.
That's not bad at all.
It was like a quick program, but here's a caveat.
You've got to do it all at once, and you get both degrees when you walk.
So you don't get your bachelor's.
You get them both at the same time, so you've got to stick it out.
Better than what the fuck the average person is doing.
Yeah, facts.
But you still get the title of doctor.
Alright, cool.
So you're in pharmacy school.
Do you want to drop where you go to school or no?
It's up to you.
I said Brigham Young University.
Oh, that's here in Miami.
Massachusetts College of Pharmacy.
Okay.
Alright, cool.
Alright, last but not least.
John.
MLD. You're all over the internet.
I am.
I'm famous now.
Which I don't even want to be.
I'm Jonathan.
I'm 37.
I live in Tokyo, Japan.
Full-time.
Konnichiwa.
Konnichiwa.
I'm a full-time YouTuber, digital marketer, all-around nice guy.
Recently single, but I think I found the love of my life tonight.
Okay!
Can you meet tacos?
I'm in love.
Can you meet tacos?
Can you meet the connections I can make down there?
Can you help me?
Everybody calls me fat and old.
Yeah, there's no Mexicans in Tokyo.
So yeah, there you go.
There's like seven.
Eighteen!
Eighteen!
And you know them all.
Yeah.
Alright, so this is what I'm going to do guys.
We already got 8,000 plus y'all in here.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and read the chats.
Don't forget to like the video on your way in and subscribe to the channel.
All John's links are below.
Real quick.
So we got Cam Two Times goes, ladies, if monetizing your sexuality became illegal tomorrow, would you be able to survive with your current lifestyle?
That's a good question.
So if you weren't able to go on free dates, maybe use OnlyFans, maybe finesse guys for money, whatever, would you still be able to live the lifestyle that you currently live right now?
Yes or no, ladies?
We'll start here.
100%.
Really?
Yeah.
You know finesse guys as a college student?
Come on, man.
She's too innocent.
She's like 19.
Can you spell finesse?
Like that F? Yeah.
Okay.
F-I-N-B-S-S-E. Okay.
So would you be able to live the lifestyle that you live now without finessing men out of resources?
Yeah, I think so.
Not using your looks to your advantage at all.
Come on.
They pay for dinner sometimes.
Come on, man.
Okay, like, sometimes.
Like, very, like, once in a while.
But, like, yeah, I would still be able to maintain?
What about you?
99% of the time, yeah.
But, no, I do a lot.
Alright.
What about you?
I'd be fine, you know, after five years in a relationship.
You're just kind of a partnership at that point.
Well, you, we already know the answer to that.
That'd be a big deal.
What about you?
Of course I will.
Okay.
Are most of your clients women?
Yes.
That you style?
Yes.
What about you?
Yes.
You still would be?
Well, I guess you deal with cats and stuff like that as well?
Yeah, yeah.
I have multiple businesses, so definitely.
Okay.
All right.
Are most of your clients females for the pets?
It's a mixture of both, honestly.
Who has most of cats?
Women.
It's an even mixture.
Even mixture for that, but the cats are women?
What about you?
Probably like a 50-50.
50-50?
Okay, how are you finessing dudes then if 50-50% of your life's not going to be gone?
100% of that youth.
Honestly, I don't even say I finesse dudes, to be honest.
I just, like, sometimes they help me out.
They finesse themselves.
Yeah, they put themselves in that situation, just like how you guys say girls.
Are white guys your biggest mark?
Spanish.
Spanish?
No, I'm not into Hispanics like that.
It's racist.
But probably like white guys.
The white guys go crazy?
Yeah, they do go crazy.
They give you that money?
Yeah.
Fantastic.
You know what niggas give?
What?
That dick.
Just a tip.
Just a tip!
Thank you for that addition.
What about you, Miss Serbia?
Yes, I could do everything the same.
Aren't you at the club all the time?
Come on.
But clubbing is for my own pleasure.
But do you pay?
No.
Of course not.
Who do you think pays for the club if you don't pay?
I mean, come on.
In Miami, any girl can go out and do whatever.
the black thing she goes out with? - Would it be the owner of a club who pays the promoter to bring in beautiful women? - But it's men that are paying at the end of the day.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- But I don't owe them anything.
It's not like I have to do anything in a sexual way.
- Yeah, but the question is, would you be able to live your lifestyle if you weren't using your looks to your advantage?
Which you clearly are if you're getting into a club for free.
Got you there with that sexy time.
Are you buying bottles?
Are you buying a table?
Gotcha, bitch!
I mean, go ahead.
I'm the first one that got the bitch nickname here tonight.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No one's calling you bitch.
My finger slipped.
Okay, however.
Oops.
Yes, my life might be more boring than it is right now.
Okay, so you want to be able to live the lifestyle that you live now without that.
Yeah, but...
Unless you're going to start paying for the club, would you start paying to go to the club then?
If I want, I can.
So tonight, let's get a table.
You pay for it.
I don't even know you.
Why would they pay for it?
No, you just said you could afford it.
Hold on, hold on.
See what just happened there?
The girl needs to know you to get in the section.
You guys don't give a fuck.
Girls just show up.
That's the difference between men and women when we buy tables.
Okay, what about you?
I'd be fine.
It's just life would not be as fun.
Okay.
So you would not be able to live this certain lifestyle that you live now, maybe.
Certain opportunities given to you.
Give us one example of fun.
Well, for example, today I'm in Miami.
I came from Jersey.
I got a guy to buy us a slingshot.
We've been riding around Miami in a slingshot.
You guys at home, you do that shit, you're fucking losers.
Losers.
The real question is, did you smash him?
No.
They don't have to.
No, I believe her.
These guys are pathetic.
How did y'all get down to Miami?
You guys are obviously 19.
You don't have a job.
She works at Dairy Queen.
No, I work at Dairy Queen too.
Oh, you are employed.
Yeah.
Okay, because you said student before.
Yeah.
I guarantee you, if you pull up their Instagram pages, they've been traveling other places too.
Yeah, so both y'all are 19.
Y'all don't make no Miami travel money.
How'd y'all get down here?
I'm the manager, so I don't make, like, nothing, but...
Okay, you're the manager of Dairy Queen?
How'd you manage to get down to Miami on a manager's sale of Dairy Queen?
Come on!
Come on!
They could save money!
It was a cheap flight!
Spirit's like 60 bucks.
So y'all paid your whole way down here?
Yeah, those selfies are cheap.
We paid $73.
It was funny.
What about the hotel and Airbnb?
Who paid that?
We both did.
You know, it's funny, as a girl, you just get here, bro, you're good to go.
Exactly.
You see, that's evil.
Clubs pay for, dinner, drinks.
Even after, if you want to stay longer.
Spirit, hostile.
So you guys pay for your own flight and your own stay.
Yes.
All of it.
Yes.
I'm not gonna lie, here's a quote.
Just don't get offended.
Broke bitches fly the spirit.
Yep.
I'm just saying, bro.
Broke bitches do too, sorry.
Listen, wait, did this guy, did this guy, do you need insurance for the slingshot?
I don't know.
I was just, I was passenger princessing.
But it wasn't like, it wasn't like he was like a weirdo.
Like we actually like genuinely like fuck with him.
You like, you'll see like vet the guys before you financially store them.
Yeah, you fuck with him, but you don't fuck him.
Exactly.
Make sure he's a nice guy before you take his money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, fantastic.
And then what about you?
Would you be able to live the lifestyle that you live now without using your looks?
Yeah, it's the lifestyle.
Wait, what if you just have...
Haram.
What if you have good friends?
Like, I feel like I, like, most of my friends...
Better do it.
They want to smash.
No, well, most of them have...
Like, my girlfriends are dating them.
And then I get to do things because I'm the girl...
Like, my girlfriend is dating, like, a very successful guy, like, a few of them.
Like, and I get to tag along, like, they have yachts.
Is he one of them boys?
But somebody's painting their hands.
Then they're trying to smash too.
Yes, he is.
He's putting you on the back burner in case things fizzle out with your hotter friend.
No, I don't even chitchat with her boyfriend.
Yeah, but your body is not paying, but somebody's body is paying.
Somebody's body is paying.
I mean, she lives with him.
Who's paying for what activities that you're talking about, Sarah?
I go on yachts.
My friend owns a yacht.
Her boyfriend owns a yacht.
Okay, so he doesn't pay.
My new friend is paying.
Okay.
Well, they're engaged, so...
But, John, he's one of them boys.
What does that mean?
I live in Tokyo.
Oh!
Okay.
A dreidel spinner.
I know, I already got it.
You didn't have to say that.
Okay.
You know what time it is.
Listen.
Your girl thought that was their man.
The Palestinians thought it was their land.
So it is what it is, man.
Boys, man.
Shout out to Ryan Dawson.
Are the lights still on?
For now.
Your lights are still on?
We'll have to get off Twitch.
Alright, Twitch, see ya.
We're ready to get on Twitch, Facebook, come on over to Rumble, YouTube, and yeah.
Yeah, for now.
Yeah.
Anyway, we're in the next question, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm back, motherfuckers.
Welcome.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Blackest Panther.
Okay.
Blackest Panther goes, before everyone calls themselves a 10, ladies, name a celebrity you look like, you look, I think it means look like, admire that you would rate a 10 in looks only.
Now, rate yourself from a scale of 1 to 10.
How do you compare it to this perfect person you look up to?
Okay, I think I see what he's doing here.
Name a celebrity you admire.
Yeah, so name it a celebrity.
Basically a celebrity that they would give a 10 to.
Yeah, name your celebrity 10.
And then where do they rank in comparison to her?
I see what he's doing here.
I like it.
This guy's real nerd.
He's trying to keep the delusion out.
He's seen it up in these shows.
Okay, we'll start here with Ms.
China.
Name a celebrity that you give a 10.
Jackie Chan.
Female.
Chung Lee.
That's hard.
Who keeps...
Lucy Liu.
I would say Nicki Minaj as a rapper.
I'd give her a 10 for rappers.
It could be any celebrity, but a 10 in looks.
Who do you give a 10 in looks?
That's hard.
I can't.
Nicki Minaj, I'll go with that.
Okay, now what do you rate yourself in comparison to her?
Like, eight, seven.
You give yourself an eight?
Yeah, seven.
Seven?
Three points away?
Okay.
Can't.
Alright, what about you?
I'm just gonna pick Kim Kardashian.
I know, boring.
What do you rate yourself to her?
To her, like a five.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.
Sober.
I like it.
What about you?
Sofia Vergara.
What do you rate yourself to her?
Actress.
Eight.
I hope so.
You're only two points away?
I don't know who Sofia Vergara is.
I said the same thing and the Mexican girl hit me.
Wait, you gave yourself an 8 to her 10?
Oh, that's Al Bundy's girlfriend.
Be honest, tell me.
Closer or far away?
Far away.
I feel like it's a flock of seagulls I ran so far away in that case.
I didn't understand.
Anyway, name your celeb 10 and what do you rate to them?
SZA. She looks really beautiful.
SZA? She's an artist.
SZA? She's related to Lizzo?
SZA? R&B artist.
SZA. What do you rate yourself to her?
She's so bad.
She's a 10?
Yeah, for me.
Okay, fantastic.
What do you rate yourself compared to her?
Yeah, probably like a good like six.
Six?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I would say Jennifer Lopez.
Oh, shit!
Okay, what do you rate yourself compared to her?
I mean, she old.
And she's still sexy.
We're assuming there's her prime, right?
Not now?
At any point in time, I will take Jennifer Lopez.
Selena?
Wasn't she in the movie Selena, but the Mexican girl?
Selena?
We'll look at J-Lo.
We'll say J-Lo Prime, like, you know, Jenny from the block.
Oh, Selena.
If she's over 18.
Or Selena, okay.
And I would say, like...
What do you rate yourself compared to that, Jenny?
Seven and a half, eight, maybe.
You're only two and a half points away?
Yeah, maybe.
What about you?
Anne Hathaway.
Anne Hathaway?
Yeah.
Goddamn.
She's perfect.
All right.
You just showed your age with that one.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then what do you rate yourself?
Thank you for remembering that.
What do you rate yourself compared to her?
Minus 10.
Negative 10?
Of course.
For me, you should believe in yourself, man.
Not that low.
Give us something.
Okay.
Okay.
Five.
No.
The average woman is a fat girl.
What about you?
I don't know.
I guess I would say Kim K. What do you rate yourself compared to her?
I would rate myself a one compared to any girl.
Wait, a one to any girl?
Wow.
Any girl.
Why are you being so humble?
Come on.
Listen, Queen, have some standards for yourself.
Go, Queen!
No, give us the real.
A one.
I mean, what do you rate yourself to Kim K? A one for real?
A one?
You kind of look like Britney Spears from that angle.
The not that crazy version of Britney Spears.
What about you?
Honestly, I'm kind of obsessed with Elizabeth Olsen right now.
Who's that?
Scarlet Witch in The Avengers.
The one Olsen twin.
I mean, the Olsen sister that nobody gives a shit about.
What do you rate yourself compared to her?
Honestly, probably like a six or a seven.
I think that her and I are kind of both unique looking, you know?
Okay.
So you put yourself three points away from her?
Yeah.
Okay.
She's a cutie.
Actually, no, four points away.
Six.
Yeah, she's a cutie.
Okay.
What about you, Sarah?
Jennifer Aniston.
In her prime for sure, but still now.
Okay, I was going to say when.
Her prime, but honestly still not.
Yeah, friends.
Before Brad dumped her.
She's still hot.
I'm sorry.
She's still hot.
She doesn't age.
It's amazing how girls don't look at the age.
They look at them as like, oh, they're still beautiful even though they're fucking 40.
And in my head I'm like, bro.
Yeah, but she's had so much filler and stuff.
But she's hot.
How old is she?
She's 50?
Yeah, 50.
Flat?
5-0?
I'm pretty sure.
She has no kids, right?
I think she came out and said some shit about how she regrets...
I'm pretty sure she's 49 or 50.
She's up there.
Okay, what do you rate yourself compared to her?
Jennifer Aniston at her prime.
Yeah.
54.
Roll down that wheelchair.
She still looks good.
She looks really good.
Roll them panties down when I'm coming over.
She's good for 54.
That bitch was alive and kicking one.
Sam was running around.
She was like...
God damn, these chicks are aching, bro.
Okay, sorry.
What do you rate yourself to compare to her?
To Jen Franesson or Brian, a five and a half.
Okay.
That's good.
Someone's living in reality.
What about you?
Definitely Zendaya.
Okay.
I was waiting for someone to say that.
And then what do you rate yourself to compare to her?
Like a four.
Oh, okay.
I like this question.
You know why?
Because the contrast is between a celebrity.
So it's more realistic.
Versus, if we had went around the table and asked them, rate yourself one a ten.
Ten!
Ten What?
Okay, where are we at here?
Elbow Ace goes, Bezos got engaged to his girlfriend.
Being filthy rich doesn't stop most people from simping.
Only a matter of time before she divorces and takes his wealth.
Yeah, it is what it is, man.
That's why you don't have RP awareness.
I almost self-deleted.
Found you guys in self-improve.
Now I live in my own place.
Make $80,000 a year.
And now I smash without asking.
I owe you more than $20,000.
And when I'm top 1%, I'm going to show my gratitude.
That's from Lou Charlie.
Shout out to you, my friend.
Glad that you're here with us, man.
I'll tell you this.
Anus of reach ain't keeping y'all alive.
I'll tell you that.
Those fucking losers.
Or PenguinZO, little fucking dorks.
Me and my 3-inch goes, please don't bring less than me on the show.
I get a headache listening to a man that has his girl out with other men and wants to tell us how relationships should be.
Send the asteroid.
Here's the thing.
I like Dustin even though he's a contrarian.
But, you know, it is what it is.
Me and him always debate.
Prince J, 20 bucks.
Guys in RP will have an issue with a girl advertising, but plenty of these RP leaders and their friends that they bring on to educate people are doing the same thing.
They tell us not to let our girlfriend do.
What's advertising?
Who's advertising?
He's saying that girls, like, we're saying girls shouldn't be advertising themselves on the internet, but guys that are in this space advertise themselves to girls.
But my argument is men and women aren't the same, loser.
They do not.
You must be new here.
Welcome to Fresh and Fit, bro, where we are definitely sexist over here.
Because reality is sexist.
Prince J, 10 bucks.
You guys always cloned on clowning on certain types of women based on their looks and age and modern.
No disrespect will be the same one sliding in knockoff self-plastic Barbie DM? I think he's talking about the fucking xenomorph queen that was on the channel.
Yo, here's the thing.
I'll tell y'all this, man.
She didn't look like her pictures.
I was fucking shocked.
I was like, wait, what?
I think, guys, you understand?
I was like, oh, shit.
She was like, gotcha, bitch.
Ultimately, for a guy, you just want to smash.
No, no, no.
No, but for a guy, you want to smash.
Ultimately speaking, you don't care about wife and that girl anyway.
Why does that even matter?
Guys, look at her pictures from a year ago, and then y'all see why.
She didn't look like her pictures, man.
I was hoodwinked.
She evolved into her final form.
Yeah, I guess so.
What else do we got here?
Lou Charlie goes, this is double the money and Chris Benkel, $2.
Yo, Chris, you got in the USA back there for him roasting you?
I'm trying to say you a bum, bro.
Damn, nigga, fuck you and your dog, man.
I told y'all they talk shit about that.
Canucks goes on.
Konnichiwa.
Konnichiwa from Japan.
Question for the ladies.
What do you think about men with colorful nail polish and would you date a man with nail polish?
Alright, we'll start right here.
Raise your hands.
Yeah.
Honestly.
Raise your hands, you would say?
Alright, how many of y'all would date a guy that has colorful nail polish?
Yes.
Give us a yes.
Only two?
Okay, Miss Mexico.
China, raise your hand.
You know you like fucking G-Dragon and all that shit.
K-pop, right?
BTS. You're BTS. Not my time.
No?
Okay.
So only two girls would do it.
Can you tell us why?
Three.
Oh wait, never mind.
I missed the word colorful.
Only black?
Like, clear.
Clear is super gay.
It depends.
Like, one nail, okay.
Why would you accept black?
Black is like, I don't know.
It'll fit something.
So you like goth guys?
Turn around and die.
Turn around and die.
Live your life to Max.
Is that what you guys think goth music sounds like?
That was the mega interpretation right there.
I'm offended.
I guess only me.
Why would you do Colorful Nails?
I mean, you asked me that question two years ago, I would say no, but today...
Why now?
Because my mentality was different, but today I'm in the fashion industry.
Okay.
And I see a lot of artists, a lot of Hollywood people, rappers.
Bad Bunny?
Yeah.
Bad Bunny, like, they don't have...
Bad Bunny is five.
They're not afraid to show the femininity.
Femininity of them, like, the soft way.
And that easy can go.
Okay.
And also, I think as more femininity, the guy it is, more understand you, so it's...
Okay.
I don't know.
And also more drama, but I can go out with a dinner with a guy with a nail.
She's 32.
She's losing those standards.
It's okay.
You got a job?
Wait, wait, wait.
You can still every now and then?
You can still every now and then?
That's fine.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, what else we got here?
That's a weird question, Canucks.
Show Enough goes, shout out Myron's Jimmy Choo collection.
Wait, what?
Jimmy Choo.
I see what you did there.
Chris Brown goes, ladies, based off the vibes so far, which girl on the panel would you want as your daughter-in-law, and which two would you not?
I think it's too early.
That's a recycled question.
That's a recycled question.
You know what we could do?
We could say it now, and then at the end of the show, ask it again.
When they expose themselves.
Okay, we'll start right here, Ms.
Chyna.
Which girl would you want to be your daughter-in-law and why on the panel?
Well, you might not know why yet, but who would you want to be your daughter-in-law if you had to pick one on the panel?
The best girl for your guy?
Long Island girl.
Who?
Long Island girl.
Okay.
Strong Island.
Fantastic.
Really?
I'm touched.
Wait, why'd you pick her real quick?
My family's from Lawn Island, too.
You're biased, man.
That doesn't count.
Your family's from China.
What about you?
What girl would you pick to be your daughter-in-law and why?
To be honest...
I don't know.
That's like a hard question.
Who gives you the least whore vibes on the panel?
Just be honest, man.
The least whore vibes.
She's gonna pick her friend to watch.
No, I can't pick my friend.
She's the manager for a reason.
She knows something we don't know.
Sound the alarm.
But yeah, I'd have to pass.
I have no idea.
Come on.
Give us one now, then we'll ask you again.
Somebody.
One person would be my daughter-in-law.
Daughter-in-law.
Yeah.
You can beat them.
No.
Get them in the line.
I wouldn't do that.
I would have to pick you.
I'm not going to lie.
Okay.
You just caught my eye.
All right.
Cool.
What about you, Miss Serbia?
Who would you pick?
I would pick her.
Who?
The 19-year-old.
Okay.
Miss Slingshot?
Okay.
She's gonna ruin Miss Slingshot.
That was you like nine years ago.
Vanessa, for Slingshots.
What about you?
This is kind of like a weird question because I'm like the youngest one in here, but it would probably be her.
You look really self-kept.
I don't know.
I feel like I would like my daughter to be more like...
You guys, I'm literally cheering up.
Man, that's two for me, man.
What about you?
Who would you pick to be your daughter?
I would pick...
Miss Mexico?
I don't know what I'm doing.
What about you, Miss Mexico?
Who would you pick?
Latina.
Wait, why did you pick Miss Mexico?
She just seems very motherly, and I feel like she would just be a great asset to my son.
He'd be well cared for, I feel like.
That's a good point.
I'm a good girl.
I would pick her.
She seems nice and not slutty like me.
You're wrong.
You're very, very wrong.
That's three for me.
I beat y'all bitches out.
Don't you have a boyfriend?
Someone keeping her real.
Are we alive?
Whoops.
We are alive.
What does that mean?
Slutty means you're cheating on your boyfriend.
No, it doesn't.
Can I be slutty for my boyfriend?
Is that okay with you?
That's not slutty.
I don't know what the kids are calling it these days.
Slutty and whore is when you're sleeping with a bunch of different men.
When you're just sleeping with your man, you're just being a good girlfriend.
What if he has multiple personalities?
You don't know my life.
What if you're sleeping with women?
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
You have multiple personalities.
Go ahead.
What about you?
Who would you pick as your top?
Funny enough, I was actually going to say Sarah, too, because she's just absolutely adorable.
I told her earlier that she reminds me of this YouTuber, iJustine.
I don't know if anybody knows that one, but she's just absolutely...
So you'd be okay with your daughter-in-law being on OnlyFans?
Yeah.
No.
You're disowned.
I pick Christy.
Why her?
Thank you.
Because she is a boss-ass bitch, and she would elevate the shit out of my son all day long.
I know that because she does it to everybody in her life currently.
Okay.
Oh, so y'all know each other personally?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Wait, no, you can't pick someone you know.
Yeah, that doesn't count.
It's like saying I like Myron a lot.
Then I'll stick with Sarah.
I'll deal with the OnlyFans.
I support sex workers.
Which Sarah?
There's two.
This one right here.
This blonde little kitty.
What about you?
Who would you pick as your daughter-in-law?
I'd pick her because she's held someone down for five years.
I am so loving this.
We don't know what she did before, though.
And then what about you, Miss Slingshot?
Who would you?
Audrey.
She just gives me like, I don't know, good vibes.
You know she finesses Caucasian men?
She's like, I'll do that too, so it's okay.
Alright.
Where we at here?
Prince J goes, oh, no.
And then Chris, what are you going to do from here?
20 and up.
Alright, yo, guys, from this point forward, we're going to read 20 and up.
The ones that came through, do I need to read them?
Or are these from before?
Yo.
No.
Luke Charlie.
Luke Charlie goes, Chris, at least if my dog ran the show, it will start on time.
Alright, alright.
I will say this.
We didn't start late because of Chris assignments because the girls didn't have their IG pictures, all of them, so we had to wait.
Some of them had to un-private it or whatever, and then some didn't have pictures.
Who didn't have pictures, Chris?
Let's see.
Like, half the panel.
Half the panel didn't have pictures?
Well, to be fair, I mean...
Okay, who else didn't have a picture?
Half the panel?
You know how to use a computer?
My Instagram is my work, so I have models, famous people.
I don't have pictures of me.
And then you didn't have one either?
No, I always shoot my point of view rather than myself.
POV? POV. I'm going to shoot my POV. Where are we at here?
Many RP leaders do not respect their audiences.
They throw you under the bus when trying to defend themselves.
They think they are better than you.
That's right.
Losers send more money.
I don't know who I don't know.
We're trying to eat.
W Martin's Hairline, W Fresh Speech, W Hero, The Chick Magnet, W Mo's Weight Loss, W MLD, L Chris, L Destiny.
Thank you.
Yeah, y'all hate Chris.
They hate me too.
I'm a blue haired individual.
Prince J goes, Half of the things you tell men to avoid, RP guys surround themselves with high body counts, mask and boss babe, 304, clothes, over 30, only fans, single mother, open on both ends.
Some even have girlfriends with those traits.
Hi, Prince J. Fantastic.
To be fair, bro, if you look at the marketplace itself, I mean, almost everyone has OnlyFans now.
So it's kind of tough.
Not every girl, of course, but a lot do.
So you can rent it out here and there.
Tagahagar goes, question for the ladies.
Would you rather stay single forever or marry a man who was chosen by her father forever?
Oh, okay.
That's not a bad question.
That's a good question.
We'll start here with Miss Chyna.
Would you rather stay single forever or marry a man who was chosen by her father forever?
By my father.
Forever.
Forever.
He's not attractive, though.
Why can't he choose?
Your dad don't go fuck about looks.
He's like, is he going to take care of her?
Would your dad choose an ugly guy for you?
He'd be like, this guy's an engineer.
Oh, yeah.
He will look at every guy, I think.
This guy's a doctor.
Chris, what'd you say?
He's a doctor.
He's a what?
Doctor?
What'd you say?
Somebody paid money to mute Chris's mic.
What did you say?
I didn't mute his mic.
Oh, no.
Doctor.
Doctor.
Chris, say it again.
Doctor.
Bro.
To be from software.
To be from software.
Oh, no, bro.
Okay.
Anyway.
So, yeah.
So, you'd be.
Single forever or the guy that your dad picks forever, but let's say he's not attractive?
Um, then I'm single forever.
Okay, alright.
He's average looking.
Single forever, man.
Dairy Queen forever.
What about you, Serbia?
Most probably single, because in the past, with whoever he introduced me to, it was like, hell no.
How's been picking men on your own going for you?
Great question.
It wasn't so bad, honestly.
She's seen fresh in the club on the reg.
Don't judge me like that.
I'm a good girl.
I believe you.
I'm not gonna lie.
She's cool.
She's cool.
That top scream's good girl.
Am I not?
Sometimes.
But I don't do anything crazy like in the clubs.
I just chill.
- I mean, you gotta be smart.
You gotta be smart. - Stop the cap. - Don't do it in public.
Don't do it in public. - Don't do it in public. - What about you? - Follow me.
A man that your father picks forever, but he's not the most attractive guy, average looking?
Or...
Single forever.
I don't really trust my dad because I haven't really talked to him in a while or seen him.
Emotional damage!
So you don't trust him?
Yeah, no.
And plus, I wouldn't let somebody else choose for me.
That's kind of bullshit.
That's the context of the question, though.
No, exactly.
I'm single forever.
I'm good.
Forever is a long time.
I would be single forever because I don't trust my dad's judgment.
Damn.
Let's say he's a successful guy, he'll take care of you and shit, but he's 5'8 and very average looking.
Like me.
Nah, Ben.
I don't take care of myself, so I'd rather wait for the guy that I know truly loves me.
No, you gotta be single forever, man.
That's the rules.
Oh, yeah, single forever.
Okay, what about you?
Single forever.
I am not a groomer.
I have a caretaker.
There's a difference.
Alright, what about you, Ms.
Hoa?
I would be single forever because I think the guy that my dad would set me up with would be probably like a hardcore Christian.
Okay.
Would your dad approve the guy that you're with right now?
The two month long relationship?
No.
The guy pushing you for threesomes?
Your dad's not on board?
I don't understand why, really.
Alright, what about you?
Single forever or the guy that your father picks?
I'm single forever, man.
I don't trust an alcoholic's judgment.
Does your dad approve of the guy that you're with now?
I don't know.
He's dead.
That was not funny.
That took a dark turn.
That was not funny, bro.
Cut to commercial.
I didn't know if he was dead.
We'll be back after this.
Oh, right.
I took it too far.
What about you?
We made a lot of bad jokes.
We might have to go to Rumble.
I did.
The boys and what about you?
I would be with the guy my dad picks.
I talk to my dad about advice for men a lot.
My dad knows what I like, what I'm looking for.
Okay.
You'd be with the average guy that your dad picks.
Yeah, you told her they're successful, they're a good guy, gonna take care of me, but maybe they're 5'8 and average looking.
Yeah, and make like 70k a year.
That's not successful.
Technically that is successful.
What are you going to spend?
That requires more than $70,000 a year.
Hair, nail.
More halfway tank top shirts?
Yes.
Do you know how much rent costs here?
You're going to be living with him.
No, it's still expensive.
He's your husband.
I live somewhere nice.
I live somewhere nice.
I pay for somewhere nice on my own now.
The average salary is between $37,000 to $50,000 per year.
It's an average guy.
That's fucking depressing.
Well, you said successful earlier.
Well, successful isn't.
He's an average guy.
That's successful, though.
I didn't hear nails, makeup, all that stuff.
What were you here?
That's a no.
No, I don't want to be single.
I mean, I guess I would deal with it then, because I don't want to be single.
Good answer.
Still a no.
Nope.
Alright, what about you?
Average guy that your dad picks, or...
It's gonna slog it away at Dairy Queen.
Probably single forever.
Gonna ride this Dairy Queen thing out.
Average guy?
No!
Fuck that, dude.
Dairy Queen forever.
Yo, you guys say I'm kidding around, bro, and I say, like, y'all are literally fucked if you don't get yourself together, bro.
Even as an average guy, it's tough on you, man.
A.K.A. Slingshots forever.
Yeah, bro.
Okay.
Yeah, they'll pick the guy that buys him a slingshot over you.
Goddamn!
Jeff Kevinson goes, why did God create man ahead of woman?
Because he did not need any advice on how to do it.
Oh, shit!
Fantastic.
That's funny.
Steve McGarrett goes, love all the work you guys are doing.
I'm 21.
My credit score is 780-ish.
I already increased my credit limit once.
What should I do next interest-free steps?
Which matters more?
FICO, TransUnion, Equifax.
They're all the same, bro.
It doesn't really matter.
They're going to run all of them.
FICO, I'll say, matters the least.
And then...
Get another credit line.
If you can't increase your credit line, just go ahead and get another one.
Get at least 11.
Yes.
At least 11 to 14 is what I think they prefer to show.
Oh, credit lines.
11 to 14 credit cards?
Yeah, that's what they prefer.
They prefer you have more because the more people that they see trust you with money, the more they'll trust you.
That's insane.
I'm almost there.
Credit cards or car loans, whatever, home loans.
Desmond Dennis!
I appreciate that, my friend.
That's a genuine tip.
Mo, he's a singer, right?
Yeah, that's the one I'm a fan of.
I've been a fan of his channel for a long time.
I appreciate that greatly.
Thank you so much.
The fuck was that, Chris?
Chris showing the show on the fucking couch.
No, Chris the dentist is next.
Love this show, but my least favorite part is learning about these chicks.
I always skip it.
You guys got to watch when the girls introduce themselves because I'm going to make jokes about where they're from and shit throughout the show.
It won't make sense.
That's why he's single.
That guy.
The dentist.
That's not really him.
Yeah, but I bet he looks like that.
He does.
Dante's Picos, my girl of five years checks all the boxes I require, but we're both 26 and I still want to grow financially and I feel that once I'm ready for kids, I've pushed her clock too far.
Is it a bad move to push for kids in our early 30s?
No.
No, man.
Go for it.
You got a good girl that is like fucking commodity of the year with all these hoes out there.
Yeah, try to have kids with her, man, and hopefully they don't come out with autism.
We got here, Demora Walker.
Shout out to you, bro.
Shout out to FNF. Let's have a great show, girls.
Big shout out to MLD. Shout out to Demora, man.
Aka N-word 2.
Precious dad, what the fuck, bro?
Yo.
He goes, be careful with these women, son.
We all know they're only after one thing at the end of the day.
You want to say back to them?
BBC. That's all I get in, man.
That's the most I've ever seen him talk to you.
I saved my friend today from getting finessed by a girl I knew she was sleeping with, a common friend.
This dude was about to buy her a car.
We boys need to look out for each other.
Don't get finessed, man.
Male thirst is fucking pathetic in the States.
This is a very America-centric problem.
Dudes with the thirst and the simping.
This is a global catastrophe.
These guys have no self-respect.
It blows my mind.
Like, if a girl is, like, in my vicinity, like, I'm not, like, trying to fucking pay her fucking car loans.
Like, I believe in your dreams or any of that shit.
No, I believe in my dreams.
Like, I'm not trying to finance some fucking chick.
And it just, it blows my mind.
I said, coming here from Tokyo, coming from Japan and like watching how pathetic the average American guy is like, I'm gonna pay your right bill.
I'm gonna pay your credit card bill.
For what?
Like, what has this person done to fucking earn this from you?
It's really like, and like how many of you girls respect these guys?
Like, oh, this guy, like such a great guy.
He just paid for me.
That's a perfect question.
You know?
What's the simplest thing a man has ever done for you?
We'll start right here with Ms.
Assistant Manager of Dairy Queen.
Um...
You bought me ice cream.
Got me a slingshot.
God.
Hmm.
I gotta think about that.
Yeah, right.
Ask your friend.
She might know.
She's got her arms crossed like...
I can see her foot tapping.
Don't say what happened to the freezer.
You got it.
You got this.
Simpest thing a guy's ever done for you.
Um...
Okay, so Valentine's Day.
Uh-huh.
This year?
Yeah.
Okay.
What happened?
Bad start already.
Let me tell you what this idiot did on the day that symbolizes love.
No, but it was the cutest thing.
It was the cutest thing.
Okay.
What do you do?
Okay.
Do you know the Sojo Spa in Weehawken?
Or no, Edgewater?
Okay.
It's a beautiful spa.
Super expensive.
It overlooks New York with an infinity pool.
It's gorgeous.
Yeah.
He brought me in there.
Mind you, we don't really talk like that.
So he called me one day and he was like, hey, let me take you out for Valentine's Day.
And I was like, okay, sure.
So he brought me to the spa.
And then afterwards, he took me to this restaurant and rented out, not rented, reserved this private, like, it was like, first it was an expensive ass restaurant.
What's the name of it?
Hall of Garden.
Hall of Garden.
No, I don't remember the name, but it was really nice.
Was it in the city?
Was it in Manhattan?
No, it was like across the river.
It was somewhere in Edgewater, Weehawken, Hoboken.
And he reserved the back of the restaurant for us.
Oh, the whole thing?
It was like a private section.
Wait, hold on.
Did you ever smash him?
No.
Was he white?
No.
What?
He's Cuban.
Hispanic or white?
No, no, no.
He is.
He's Italian, too.
All right.
So he didn't get no box.
Okay, so he took you to an expensive spa, nice restaurant.
What else?
And what were you thinking the whole time?
Like, I'm just so happy not to get this guy pussy.
No, I actually felt really bad because I don't like when guys pay for it.
I feel so bad.
As he was taking you to the spa and the restaurant...
I didn't know that he was going to do all that.
No, I didn't.
You didn't interject, though.
You're like, well...
He already had everything planned and everything set and booked and everything.
Why did he take you out to the restaurant?
Home.
To the hotel room?
To where?
Back to my college.
Oh, he dropped you back at home, bro?
Yeah, but he was like...
He also just got like...
Denied!
Did he make a move?
Did he try anything?
Did he look at you?
Did he say, like, let's go to my hotel or something?
Nothing?
Um...
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
You wouldn't know.
Come on, man.
You remember all these other details.
No, I'm serious.
No, because, like, I was also, like, kind of, like, giving hints that I didn't want to do anything.
So, what'd you say?
What'd you say?
Like, I'm not gonna suck your dick tonight.
I have class.
I'm about period.
Fantastic.
So I took you to an expensive spa, nice restaurant.
How much do you think you dropped?
Gotta be over it.
The stack.
What about you?
Simplest thing you guys ever done for you.
I got in a car accident in February and I was upset that I only have liability insurance on my car so they don't pay for the damage and I just like sent a text complaining about it and then I dinged a text from Zelle and he sent me $3,500.
Oh wow.
Pathetic.
$3,500 to fix my car.
Pathetic.
And pay my ticket.
It was pathetic.
Pathetic.
And this is not someone I would literally never hang out with.
I have secondhand embarrassment for this fucking guy, bro.
I think he's...
Pathetic.
And no, I think he's absolutely pathetic.
Goddamn.
Okay.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Did you tell him that?
Did you tell him that?
Every time he asks me to do something, I'm absolutely not.
Did you give him a refund?
Huh?
No.
No.
Chris!
Would you give him a refund, Chris?
I know you wouldn't.
I mean...
I mean...
No, you wouldn't.
No, I wouldn't.
What about you?
Snippest thing you guys ever done for you?
How are we defining that?
Okay, good question.
Basically, a great give of value without you necessarily reciprocating it or having zero intention of reciprocating that effort from his perspective.
For example, your boyfriend that you're with, right?
Let's say he takes you on a nice-ass dinner.
Y'all are together.
That's different.
That's not sipping.
He's just treating you well because you're his girlfriend.
But a guy that you have zero romantic intention with, him giving you a bunch of value without you reciprocating.
I guess I have two different stories.
I don't know which one is better.
Don't fucking hurry up.
So I guess this was years ago.
This ex of mine, who I had zero intention of getting back with, and I was single at the time, he lived up in Clearwater, so that was a good, solid four-hour drive from where I was at.
Where were you at the time?
I was living in Boynton Beach at the time, I think.
Yes, I think that's about three, four hours away.
Clearwater's like right outside of Tampa, guys.
No, that's right under Boca.
No, that's right under Boca.
Boynton's above Boca.
North of Boca.
Okay, so it's an hour and a half.
No, from Clearwater.
Up on the west coast.
Doesn't matter.
Alright, it's fine.
There was like a three or four hour drive, whatever.
And I don't know what he probably expected me to put out or whatever, but he was like, oh, you want to hang out?
I was like, yeah, sure, whatever.
He literally drove down.
He picked me up.
We literally went to a liquor store.
I was like, yeah, I want a bottle of vodka.
I think he got me a bottle of vodka or something.
And literally right after that, he dropped me back off at home.
And I was like, you know, I really just don't feel like hanging out.
At all.
He drove four hours.
Yeah, and he was like, it's okay, I'll just go home.
I was like, bye.
And I kept the vodka.
This was your ex-boyfriend?
Yeah.
Wait, what?
And he just drove home.
He just drove, like, the three, four hours back to Clearwater, and that was the end of it.
Okay, interesting.
And I kept the vodka.
Question, like, what made you say, I don't want to hang out with you anymore?
He must have done something that said no.
He looked significantly different.
Like, he was, like, scrawny, and he was, like, losing his hair and shit, and I was like, ew, like, you're not as hot as I remember.
I'm like, damn.
Okay.
So you punished him for being ugly.
Yeah.
I will say, let me ask you this.
Were you okay with, like, When he was coming, I mean, let's be honest here, you probably knew that you guys were gonna fuck.
I was open to it.
I was open to it and then I saw him and I was like, fuck no, I'll break you, man.
Fair enough.
She's a demon, bro.
Biggest simp story for you.
I once met this guy at an event.
I met him probably for like five minutes.
What kind of event was this?
I gotta ask.
It was like a convention.
What kind of convention?
Chiller Theater in New Jersey.
The what?
Chiller Theater in New Jersey.
They have a bunch of, like, celebrities there and, like, a lot of people from, like, yesteryear.
What's the theme?
What's the theme?
Oh, well, it's like a Halloween type of event.
It's a Halloween type.
Okay, convention.
All right.
All right.
So you were there, and then what?
So I must have just, like, spoke to him for, like, two minutes, and he went and bought, like, everything off of my wish list for me later on, like, a few weeks later, and I never saw him again.
Your wish list from where?
On Amazon.
On Amazon, okay.
Was this on your OnlyFans or your Seeking Arrangement profile?
This was long before I had an OnlyFans.
So where was this wishlist posted?
MySpace?
That's a good question.
Facebook, I guess?
I don't know.
This was like 10 years ago.
She's talking hard if she has her fucking Amazon wishlist on her Facebook.
How much was your Amazon wishlist?
It's probably like over a thousand, I think.
And you bought everything on it?
Yeah.
Holy, wow.
Pathetic.
That was easy.
Okay, what about you?
I don't have any stories.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Free kilo of cocaine or something that you can break down.
Wait, you wanna make fun of me?
No, no, we're not gonna make fun of you.
It's okay.
I'll protect you.
And I was with my ex for 12 years, and before that, I have one boyfriend, and that's about my life.
Wait, how's that simping though?
No, she's saying she doesn't have a story because she's only dated.
She's not from America, so that's a good thing.
Yeah, and Mexico.
That's a positive.
She actually respects humanity.
Okay, so a guy's never done anything for you, just did it.
Because some of these girls, well, except for the ex situation, they didn't even see it coming.
The guy just was like, oh, let me give you a bunch of shit.
Never?
Somebody do something really nice for you, but you didn't really expect it or something expensive.
No, I never accept anything for anyone.
Because my mom always say, if you get something, you're gonna pay somehow.
That's my wife.
That's my wife.
I respect her.
Smart.
Good woman.
What about you?
I'm very similar to her.
Come on!
I was with a man from 19 to 27.
I'm 29 in the last two years.
I've gone on dates, but I only do a first date.
If I don't think I can see a future with you, I don't waste your time.
And you won't accept anything.
No, because I feel bad, no.
You've never been to a nice dinner?
Oh yeah, I've been to a nice dinner for sure.
That's like the worst thing.
What's the most expensive dinner they took you on a first date that you didn't reciprocate back on?
Um...
I can't really say, because honestly, I've been to a lot of really nice restaurants.
I can't really say which one's the best.
Okay.
What about you?
Come on, I know you do.
You said 50% of your lifestyle wouldn't be the same without your beauty.
I mean, like, honestly, you were talking about clubs and stuff, so that's why I thought.
Okay, that works.
What happened?
No, it would probably just have to be, like, somebody bought me a meal or paid for my meal.
That's pretty much about it.
I would say McDonald's, but it's like...
Oh, there was something more than that.
Bro, hold you.
I know there was something more than that.
She's 18.
She got a happy meal.
She was hype.
Chocolate meal.
Alright, so what was it that you got then?
McDonald's?
No, that's the only thing that can come to mind.
That's the thing.
Like, I really don't mind.
Come on, man.
You finesse these white guys out of more than that.
Probably just...
Yeah, I don't know.
Just take me out on a ride in a yacht.
That's probably something else because I can't really name anything else.
Was it his yacht?
Yeah.
Or was it a promoter yacht?
It was...
I think...
I'm pretty sure it was theirs.
Okay, so they took you on a yacht.
Yeah.
You went by yourself?
Um...
No.
Another girl?
Yeah.
How many of y'all?
Two?
Three?
It was...
It was, like, several girls.
Like, three.
Okay, so...
But he was trying to get you.
Type.
And then what'd you do?
Nothing.
Like, I didn't really pay no mind to it, to be honest.
It wasn't really any, like...
Did he get with one of your friends, at least?
No.
None of the guys scored?
No.
He wasn't really that good-looking.
What about the friends?
Did any of his friends get your friends?
Yeah.
Yeah, they got with my friends, yeah.
But I didn't really want to give them anybody's son.
Sacrificial lamb.
Okay, so did your friends get fucked on the boat?
No, no.
No, not on the boat.
Not on the boat, but later on?
I think so.
Okay.
I wouldn't really know.
It kind of went off.
Alright, what about you, Miss Serbia?
The biggest simp story for you?
Nothing crazy.
I mean, I think it's different if one of your exes want to get back to you.
That's different for me than if someone is like from scratch, from zero.
You clearly have both stories, so give us one of them.
No, I don't have anything crazy.
I mean, obviously, yeah, dinner or drink, yes, but...
Maybe some gift here and there from the ex trying to get back.
Okay.
She has so many she can't even think about it.
What kind of gift did you get you?
Okay, let me give this example.
Someone I never had anything to do with.
It was my birthday like six years ago in Serbia.
So he just showed up.
She showed up in front of my house with the big cake, like two meters tall teddy bear.
Six foot.
Yes, six foot.
And flowers, jewelry, and yeah, that's it.
Shit.
Okay.
Wait, so what happened after that?
Nothing.
Because he's been trying to get to me like for months and I was really like not trying to...
So you accepted the gift and then what'd you do?
Nothing.
I was nice to him and everything.
He's like a family friend, so...
I'm not trying to be rude, but...
So sad.
Yeah.
So you're just like, thank you very much.
Is that what you did?
We were talking, like, he came in the house and everything.
He was talking to my family.
But he knows he doesn't have chances.
But he felt better if he tried, you know what I mean?
Okay.
Any other sim stories you want to tell us?
You got a big-ass teddy bear in jewelry.
Okay.
That's it?
Yeah, that's it.
All right.
What about you, manager of Dairy Queen?
Mine isn't really with like money.
It would just be I was talking to this guy for like a week or so.
And when we went out, we went out with his friends.
And I eventually started liking his friend more than I liked him.
So by the end of the night, I asked him to put me out with his friend.
Oh shit!
How do you react to that?
What did he say?
And obviously he was mad.
Yeah.
His friend didn't want me because obviously it would be disrespectful.
Good friend.
Exactly.
Nope.
And then...
Put your ho in and check.
Not on my watch, sister.
And then what?
And then the next day, I was...
Well, he was mad, but then the next day, he still hung out with me.
Like, he was so...
Did he smash?
So he wasn't a good friend.
No, the original guy or the friend?
The original guy.
The friend that said no to me...
Oh, hung out with you the next day?
The original guy.
The original guy.
He took it back after she tried to get with his friend.
Yeah.
And he didn't smash.
And he didn't...
Wow.
I thought the slingshot.
Was she a homie hopper?
Denied.
Homie hopper.
That's a pretty bad story.
Okay, fair enough.
Okay, what about you, Ms.
Trina?
I think it probably might be my ex.
We broke up two years ago.
Yeah, two years ago.
And he was, like, crying.
Like, I think for a guy to cry in front of a girl, that's...
It's a no-no.
It's a no-no.
Wait, because you broke up?
He cried?
Yeah.
Okay.
You broke up with him?
Yeah.
And he was, like, crying.
Why did you break up with him?
Just...
He didn't, like, make any buzz.
Do you think boring?
Very boring.
I think he's, like, more treating me like...
I don't know.
I just can't see a future with him.
Why can't you see a future?
What future do you see?
I mean, to get married.
I can't see him, like, getting married.
He just wouldn't be a good husband.
Why not?
Because...
I don't know.
He have his things together.
But yeah, just not like husband type.
Okay.
I respect it.
Sex bad?
Then...
Okay.
Alright, next question.
Alright, so I got a question for the ladies.
Do you think girls give each other good advice when it comes to dealing and dating men?
No.
Hold on.
Yes.
One at a time.
We'll start here with Miss Chyna and then work our way.
Go ahead.
Yes.
I talk with my friends.
I actually met this girl in the club, but then we became...
Red flag.
No.
Cultural problem.
Cultural difference.
So you said yes, and because you met a girl at the club?
Yeah.
Then we became best friends.
What did she tell you about men that was good advice?
Not who he is now, but who he will become.
Okay.
What's sage advice from the nightclub you've received here?
Okay.
What country is this girl from?
Mauritius.
And does she have a husband and or boyfriend?
Yeah, she has a boyfriend.
What's she doing in the club?
She's partying.
Being a hoe.
Okay, so the best advice you got was not who he is now, but who he will become, and you got this from the club.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, do you think in general girls give each other...
So that's one piece of good advice.
But let's say all the advice you've got from girls in general about men.
Has it been good or bad?
Mostly.
I think from my friends, I have...
Yeah, I think they're helpful.
So it's mostly been good for you?
Yeah, mostly good.
Okay.
What about you?
It really just depends on the friend.
Like, if they're fake, then they're not going to give you good advice.
But if they actually care about you, then...
Okay.
So in general, do you think women give each other good advice when it comes to dealing with opposite gender?
If they're your actual friend, then yes.
But can you be honest and admit that most girls are not really genuine?
Yeah.
So most of it is bad advice?
So would you say most of it is good advice or bad advice?
I would say 25% good advice, 75% bad.
So mostly bad.
Alright, what about you?
I think it depends.
It doesn't matter where you met a friend or how long you know the girl for.
I think it just matters how she was raised.
Okay.
Yeah, what type of values she has.
Okay.
Because sometimes, you know, you can click very well even with the person from the club.
Okay.
But you can see that whenever she gives you advice, she's like genuine, honest.
But I'm asking, do you think in general, do you think women give each other good or bad advice when it comes to dealing with opposite gender in general?
I mean, 60% yes.
Okay, so you say it's close, so 60-40?
All right.
I mean, yeah.
60-40 bad or good?
In my case, it was mostly good.
What about you?
I think my friends just kind of feed into my delusions.
I think it's pretty bad.
I wouldn't say it's good.
All right.
Friends, feed into my delusions.
Is that the first time for the Fresh and Fit podcast?
What about you?
Do you think women give each other bad advice in general or good advice?
In general.
Don't worry.
I'm going to narrow it down to the next question.
In general, I'd say more bad advice just because they're just really don't know for themselves.
So they just try to help.
But the way they help is really not helpful.
What about you?
Oh, this is very polemic.
I don't ask for advice, and I don't give advice.
Because I think, for understand your problem...
But you're going to get it all the time.
Like, let's say you talk about your life, or you talk about men in general.
I don't.
I don't.
So, women never give you unslips to advice?
For example, she can be my best friend, and, I mean, I'm divorced right now, and I can say why I'm getting divorced.
People ask me, like, this isn't between my husband and I. It's not I have to make a three-party to say it.
Oh, well, she's been single only at five months.
No, she's mature.
Because that's a fucking dumb hoe thing.
Like when a woman goes out and like talks about her relationship to fucking everybody.
What he can tell me is about his experience in his life.
Nothing to do with mine.
He can say what he will do, but it's not mean what I'm going to do.
Okay.
So you never got no solicited advice from a girl.
I have friends who tell me like, I want to say something I'm saying before saying, I'm bent out.
I'm not waiting for feedback.
I want to tell you this and this and this and this.
And I will...
Okay, so after you vent...
Hold on.
For example, I can't say...
You need to listen for two seconds.
Okay, I will.
After you vent, nine out of ten times people are going to give you advice.
I'm simply asking you, is advice good most of the time or is it bad when it comes from women after you vent?
For example...
To bend it up, I don't say like, oh, he done this and this and this.
I say, I feel this way, and I feel it this way.
You can say, oh, go for a walk, listen to music, get ready, or do this.
The vice, I can say, is good.
But I don't say, like, he done this and this and that because, and the fact, I'm a mom.
I have kids.
And I don't want my family or my friend hates the man because he always want to be in touch with me and my kids because he's the father of my kids.
So, I don't want to say, like, he's able or he's the bad because I'm responsible for my own acts.
So you're saying in a nutshell...
I didn't answer the question.
Yeah, but...
So she's saying if she talks about her mental people, they have an idea of who he might be.
She won't badmouth him.
Exactly.
Like Steven Crowder's fucking wife did.
Oh, God.
9 out of 10 times it's human nature.
She said she wouldn't vent to badmouth the father because she cares about yourself.
In my experience I would say my friends have been pretty honest with me.
How do they feel about this guy?
The question is in general.
How do they feel about threesome guy?
But in general, it's not just your friends.
I guess if they don't have any ulterior motive, then I think they'd be honest.
So you think it's good in general?
Yeah.
What do they feel about Threesome Guy?
Are they like, yeah, see this thing out?
She actually likes him.
My best friend likes him.
Fantastic.
What about you?
Do you think, let me give each other good advice in general when it comes to opposite gender?
Absolutely not.
No?
Why do you say that?
Because, honestly, from what I've observed, the people I know, there's just a lot of people in a lot of toxic relationships.
They don't know the first thing about a good relationship.
And so they give some really stupid, shitty advice.
What about you, Sarah?
Do you think women in general give each other good advice when it comes out?
Absolutely terrible advice.
Why?
Women give the worst advice about...
First of all, they have no idea what men want.
They have no idea what men are interested in.
So they're going to talk about what they think they know.
And I love my friends, but if any of you are watching me on here, you all give terrible advice.
I won't talk to my girlfriends about men.
But women in general.
So you say no and on top of that your friends are bad too.
Yeah, my friends give the absolute worst advice and that just like cherry on top like women give terrible advice about men and dating.
What about you?
What do you think about women give each other advice?
In general.
In general?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think women give bad advice.
About men.
But I feel like if it's someone that you know...
I'm going to ask that next.
Now, your friends, the women in your orbit that you know, do they give good advice?
Yes or no?
I feel like my...
March.
And if so, what's the best piece of advice they actually gave you?
Okay, for my bestest friends...
Your boss.
Your manager.
You better say it nice or else you won't get fired.
She's like...
My dear queen.
They'll be straight up with me.
They're brutally honest because we just have that relationship.
So they do give good advice.
now give us the best piece of advice they gave and we'll tell you if it was good.
Go on, Fresh and Pit.
There's not like...
You should be able to point out at least one good piece.
I'm just thinking in general if a guy will do me dirty and I will want to go back, they'll just tell me to stopping a fucking dumbass or Give us an example of that.
Leave your man, girl.
What happened?
Exactly.
Give us a context.
Okay, okay.
Because it might be good where he does you dirty, you go back.
Okay, so I was talking to this guy, and we were doing good, whatever.
He just started, like, distancing himself from me and just started ghosting me out of nowhere.
How long were we together?
Like, we weren't, like, official, but it was, like...
How long were we seeing each other?
You fucked?
Two weeks.
Almost like a year.
He never gave you the girlfriend title?
No.
So she had an understanding.
So she was in a relationship, he was not.
Alright, so you guys were seeing each other for a year and hooking up and shit.
Okay, and then what happened?
He ghosted you randomly.
Yeah, but it was like one of those things where at first it was just hooking up and then we eventually started communicating about how we wanted it to be serious and no more fucking around with other people.
Okay.
Yeah, so he started ghosting me.
I told my friends.
He hit me up again recently and I told my friends...
And they just told me, nah, you're just going to give him that satisfaction.
He's going to know that he has you wrapped around his finger.
So they told you to break it off?
Yeah, just completely.
So let me ask you this question.
So the advice that you think is good is they told you to break it off.
And you were seeing him for a year.
And how'd you guys meet?
We went to school together.
What did you do prior to him ghosting you?
Nothing.
That's a thing.
Really?
No, seriously.
Do you think you found a hotter girl?
And you're just like, I'm out.
They do that a lot.
I mean, if a guy sees a girl, how consistent are we guys seeing each other?
You're like, that's a playbook, man.
Once a week?
No.
Twice a month?
No, maybe like four times a week.
You guys are seeing each other four times a week and then he ups and just goes to you randomly after seeing each other for a year Damn, yeah, but you just like I said no, what I'll stop.
It's what you decide.
Yeah No, no, no, no listen.
No, you did do something.
You did something.
It's okay.
I know it.
You did something I don't know But sometimes it was towards the end where we like where we came to the conclusion that we wanted to just be just us Whose conclusion was that?
Yours or his?
He's the one who brought it up, actually.
Then why'd he leave your ass?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I think we're leaving something.
Whether you're aware of it or not, I think something went down.
He gave you that piece of bait.
All right, you know what?
I'm going to see what's up.
We probably found somebody else, probably.
Yeah.
Most likely.
Guys don't leave just good pussy laying around.
We're just not like, ah.
I'm going to go play some fucking Fortnite like Chris.
For sure.
So that's very interesting because...
I'm tired of getting laid on a regular basis.
So you think that was good advice, but I would argue that was terrible advice.
Why is that terrible advice?
Because more than likely, if you've seen you four times a week for the better part of a year, you did something to fuck it up significantly.
He was down for the cause.
No, because I was actually down for him.
I didn't do anything.
He found something out about you.
Maybe you weren't reciprocating effort, but you did something For him to leave you.
If he was seeing you four times a fucking week for a year, you fucked up.
And this is a perfect example right now.
When I say girls give each other dog shit advice, bro.
Shout out to Mo.
Like, you're seeing a guy for a year.
He goes to you.
Instead of doing some self-reflection and being like, damn, I wonder if I did something wrong.
Maybe he found out something.
Let me try to talk to this guy.
What do they do?
Play hard to get.
Don't contact him.
Bam.
Year wasted.
Congratulations.
She saw the guy more than I saw my husband the last year.
Say that again.
Say that again in English.
I was thinking in Spanish.
You saw that guy more, more times than I saw my husband the last year.
Have you ever had a dream that...
Yeah, so basically she said that they saw each other a lot.
So yeah, something's off.
Something's wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The milk went sour.
When he recently contacted me...
When you were on the slingshot?
When he recently contacted me, I'll admit, I responded, but after asking him what the fuck was good with him.
What do you want?
Like, yeah.
Like, why are you hitting me up?
You just ghosted me, and now, like, I don't like being, like, convenient to someone.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not just gonna be there when you snap your fingers.
Like, if I'm out, then leave me out.
There's no reason for you to be going back into my life.
You know, guys want a girl that's there, like, when he snaps his fingers.
So, like, for a keeper.
Yeah, but that's not me.
Back to the Dairy Queen for you.
You want two scoops?
Those streets are cold.
Derrick Queen's even colder.
For real though, the fact that y'all were seeing each other four times a week, and this is what I always say.
Women have to curve men overtly.
Oh, I'm not interested.
I have a boyfriend, blah, blah, blah.
Men curve women silently.
I guarantee you found something out about you that made him say, I can't take this girl seriously.
But that's not my fault.
It is your fault.
He didn't want to have the communication to talk to me about something.
But I'm saying, He found something out about you.
Probably not to your knowledge because clearly you don't know.
Or something happened.
Something happened.
You did something that pissed him off where he went ahead and didn't go through.
Or he got bored because you weren't doing enough to keep him there.
Because what happens is he might say, you know what?
You're awesome.
You're great.
But it's plateauing because it's not as fun as it used to be or it's boring.
That's what I honestly think it was.
Because at that point, he's not going to tell you, oh, sorry, it's boring.
I'm boring.
Say it again?
I honestly think it was that.
She stopped providing value or some shit.
You stopped washing the dishes and you're being lazy?
No, I mean, I'll admit, everything is more exciting in the beginning.
Did he initiate everything?
Of course.
She's 19.
She doesn't have a ho database to go back on.
She hasn't hoed out yet.
If a guy's got to initiate everything with you all the time, that also gets annoying.
I wouldn't just let him initiate everything.
Obviously, I would reciprocate the energy back.
You just said he initiated most of everything.
You've sat around and thought about this, though.
Really, what do you think it is?
What do you think it is now?
Why he ghosted me?
Yeah.
Come on, you stalked like 17 of his fucking social media profiles.
You checked all his likes, you checked all his followers, you checked who he's following.
He's following new girls who wasn't there before.
Come on.
I think it was his ex.
Oh, fuck that bitch.
I think it was his ex.
When you got a soft spot for the ex, you know?
It's hard.
Is he with her now?
Yeah.
I don't know.
So, congratulations.
You just proved that his ex was better than you.
Because here's the thing, if he goes back to his ex after he was with you, then you've effectively proven that you were not better than the ex.
Guys can also have a tendency to have a placeholder.
I'm going to fuck around with you until I'm ready to get back with my ex.
I know you're not wifey material.
If you're with a chick that's effectively better than your old chick, you're going to give the preference of treatment to the better girl.
I don't always think guys have the best judgment.
Neither do women either, by the way.
I'll tell you why men have better judgment.
Because men rarely get value back from women.
Men are used to being the ones that have to provide the value to women.
So when a man actually receives value back from a female, they remember that shit.
So if you're with a new girl and she adds way more value than your ex, you're going to prioritize that new girl.
But the problem is that most girls don't add value.
If I want to be all the way honest here.
Most girls extract value with rarely giving it back.
So that's why men typically are better judges of female providing value.
Because it happens so little.
What about you?
You said women give bad advice.
I guess in this case, what's the worst advice you've gotten from a girl that is close to you that your friends with?
Oh my god, my girlfriends give the worst advice.
So for instance, one of my really good friends, she's been in a toxic relationship forever.
I've been telling her to...
Can you get advice from the toxic relationship girl?
No, no, no, no.
I didn't give her advice.
I'm going to tell you what a friend said to her.
Yeah, I mean, they're always like...
She finally left her boyfriend and I'm telling her, good, let's take some time to be to yourself and heal because nobody's going to want to put up with all your fucking damage from that.
And everyone else is like, no, fill up the roster.
Fill up the roster.
You need this guy and this guy and this guy.
And I'm like...
And it's always also, too, like...
So they told her, like, date as many guys as possible.
Yeah, date as many guys as possible.
Become as much damaged whores as we are.
That's real, the translation.
Yeah, I mean, I have one friend that she's...
I mean, she does not sugarcoat anything.
And, like, about anything other than men, like, she gives great advice because she doesn't sugarcoat shit.
Like, if you are acting stupid or on some bullshit, like, she will make it very clear.
She'll call you up, yeah.
Yeah, she'll call your ass out.
So I respect that.
She's single?
She sure is.
But it's because her advice on men is bad.
Somebody's going to lock her ass down.
This is a girl that gives bad advice.
She's already made all the mistakes.
No, she gives bad advice about men.
About normal...
But she's the one that's like, as soon as you become single, go see a bunch of guys.
She could have the most amazing, perfect scenario of a man that wants to lock her down and take care of her.
And she's like...
But I gotta have at least two others in case he pisses me off.
What's that lady's relationship with her father like?
Do you know?
Really good.
Daddy issues.
No, really good.
Is it who I'm thinking of?
Yeah, it is.
Spoiled brat.
Comes from a lot of money.
Then that's not really good.
Daddy compensated with the money, not real love.
And now she's out here being a hoe.
- True.
- How do you know who she means?
- Come on, man.
- Okay, move.
- Yeah, it's a... - That's why.
- Yeah, very fresh.
- Yeah, Myron's a man of Allah, by the way.
Yes, I'm a man of Allah.
Okay, what about you?
You said girls in general give...
Sorry, your friends.
Do your friends give good advice?
And if so, what's the best piece of advice you got?
No, on relationships?
My friends do not give good advice.
Worst?
I don't know.
I mean, with my current relationship, I really haven't had to get too much advice, thankfully.
Ashley, I have not given you good advice.
The story I'm about to reference is pre-you, okay?
When I was with my ex...
It could be something you overheard from your friend since you're in a relationship.
Honestly, I don't really be paying attention to that shit, but my ex...
Very, very toxic relationship.
A lot of fighting, a lot of problems.
And I had this one friend, and I shit you not.
She was like, you know what you should do?
You should disappear for the night.
Just disappear.
Stop answering your phone and sleep in your car so that he worries about you.
And I was like, that's the dumbest fucking shit I have ever heard.
Why would I do that?
I don't want to sleep in my car!
Or when they're always like, post really sexy bikini photos, making jealous, post old dinner photos so it looks like you're on a date with someone else.
Some really vindictive, crazy shit.
And it's like, yo, we are two very different people.
That's not where my mind goes.
So go ghost for a bit.
Yeah, and honestly, I've definitely learned that is not the answer.
The communication is key.
What about you?
Do your friends give good advice?
And if so, give us the best piece of advice they actually gave you.
So my friends usually do give good advice.
I would say the best piece of advice that they gave me was when I was with my ex, they told me to break up with him.
What did they do that they said go and break up with him?
Everything.
I mean, he was just mean to me.
How long were we all together?
We were together for about five months.
Five months.
What did he do?
If he was so mean to you, you should be able to line it out.
What did he do particularly that was wrong?
Just, you know, anytime I would lay down a boundary, like...
What, you?
Such as?
No threesomes.
That's a big one.
I mean, he would call me stupid.
What was the boundary?
What was the boundary?
Give us an example of a boundary that he was like...
Like what you just said, like, I don't want to do threesomes.
Oh, you said that?
Yeah.
Okay.
And he would call me stupid, so...
Let me ask you this.
They call you stupid?
That's not okay.
No way.
That's not cool.
Let me ask you this.
So...
You're open to threesomes now with a guy that you've been with for two months, but the guy that you were with for five months, you weren't open to threesomes with him.
Is it really him being me?
I'm not open to threesomes with the new guy.
She didn't say that.
That's the impasse of this relationship.
But he's trying to do it.
And you're still with him.
I might reconsider it.
I don't know.
See, for the right guy.
The point I'm trying to make here is that you're making rules for your ex, but you're not necessarily making those same rules for this guy.
I mean, I told my ex that we could do a threesome if it was filmed for OnlyFans.
Alright, Fresh, you're in.
Okay.
We're going to chill, too.
Okay.
So, businesswoman.
Okay, so going back to what I was saying.
So he was mean to you because he didn't respect the boundary of you wanting a threesome.
He wanted a threesome.
He pushed for it anyway.
What else?
Then he called you stupid.
Why did he call you stupid in particular?
Stupid!
It would just be when we were arguing.
What did you argue about that made him call you stupid?
I think I left a bag on the counter, on the stove top, and he got mad because he thought the cats would jump up and somehow turn the knob on to start the stove.
They do that.
The person that watches pets.
So I want to be fair to say that it is kind of stupid to do that.
Why are you throwing her under the bus right now?
I'm saying it to all people with cats.
They do that.
They would have to put their paw up and hold it down.
They don't have thumbs, man.
I've had it happen before.
Really?
Oh.
Out of how many thousands of cats?
Okay, so you've now been debunked on two things.
So what you did was stupid.
What you did was stupid.
And you didn't want a threesome with a guy that you've been with longer than the guy that you're with now that you're considering a threesome.
So, okay, continue on.
What else did he do that made you want to break up with him?
Or that your friends...
I guess, what made your friends say you should break up with him?
What else?
He would also hit on girls on social media.
Okay.
But you have an OnlyFans.
Yeah.
So it's okay for him to hit on other girls?
I mean, you're hitting your body on...
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
What are you doing on OnlyFans?
Well, I sleep with other women on OnlyFans.
So she's doing threesomes without the guy?
That's with women, that's not real sex.
If he's okay with dating an OnlyFans, how do you chat in the comment?
Or how do you chat in the messages?
Sex only involves penis.
I mean, if they're paying me, I will sex with them, I'll do custom videos.
But your boyfriend can't message other men.
But you're messaging other men.
I think I'd be okay with him if he was, like, getting paid to message girls.
Because he had an OnlyFans, but he would never really be serious about it.
No, not really, because she was making money off of it.
It's her job.
He would be messaging women just to try and fuck women.
It's two completely different things.
Like, if he's okay, if he's dating...
If he got into a relationship with her knowing that she was an OnlyFans, if he knows that that's her job and how she makes money, then he has to accept that.
He cannot use that against her once he's in a relationship.
Or if he didn't want to be in videos on the OnlyFans...
Say again?
He didn't want to be in videos on the OnlyFans.
So...
I'm not sure.
He didn't want to be on her videos.
He didn't want to be on her videos.
He didn't want anything to do with the OnlyFans.
He obviously wasn't a fan of it.
Yeah, but I'm just saying it's so comical that girls come and they paint this picture of, oh, I'm just selling pictures of this and that and I'm with women and I'm not doing men on there.
I'm sorry, but when you're on OnlyFans, you're telling men, oh, I would fuck you, I want to suck your dick, this and that.
You're sexting online.
It's their job.
But it's disrespectful to the man.
He obviously was bothered by it, so he was like, okay, you're gonna have this and you're gonna do this.
If he's bothered by it, he should not get into a relationship with her.
Okay, but it's also manipulation to then go ahead and say, oh, well, I'm mad that you're talking to other people online.
No, because if he's a man talking to other women, he's trying to fuck that girl.
There's occupation, and then there's, you know, entertainment or whatever.
It's at least her job.
It's like men who date strippers, men who date porn stars.
You gotta be okay with her doing her job.
You can't go and then do the same thing and be like, oh, what you're doing is like, no, you're cheating at this point.
You're either okay with the fact that you're dating a sex worker or you're not.
And it's okay if you're not.
It's totally cool to not be okay with dating a sex worker.
You're not allowed to do that stupid shit.
Let's keep it a thousand here.
It's never okay for a guy when you're a sex worker.
The only reason men typically tolerate sex workers is because they don't have the options to get a girl that isn't necessarily a sex worker or they have to kind of concede on boundaries.
There are some men that are security themselves that really do not mind.
But clearly he wasn't security because he's going and looking for other options.
That's also not the woman's problem.
It is her problem.
What women need to understand is that if you're involved, whether you're a stripper, OnlyFans, pornography, you do any type of sex work in general, what's going to happen is you're...
It's a stigma.
It's a stigma that's going to significantly limit your ability to find a suitable candidate that you would actually be attracted to.
So when you find yourself in a certain profession, automatically you're going to be invisible to a majority of men that you like in the first place.
The Prince Charmings that you want, the guy that has the money, the status, etc., that has options to have other women, he's not going to pick you seriously.
He'll pick you for a night, maybe a week, two weeks.
I agree.
And it's not for everybody, for sure.
But what I'm saying is that when women are involved in that profession, they need to kind of make concessions on their end as well and understand sometimes that...
You're not gonna get the cream of the crop, men.
You gotta take what you can get.
You gotta take what you can get.
I think they still have the right to demand it, though.
They still have the...
You're not a high-value girl.
If you're not as right, those girls date guys are way less than them.
Yep.
And way below their pay grades.
You know, you don't gotta date them.
That's totally the bottom line.
Then they're gonna be alone.
Yeah.
That's their prerogative.
That's their business.
You can't come in making demands for a man to take care of you and do this and that and do everything that you want to do.
He doesn't have to oblige.
That's why they're broken up.
Women that are involved in certain professions need to line up their wants and their desires with what's actually really practical for where they stand in the dating marketplace.
For example, If I live with my mom and I'm a fat piece of shit and I eat Cheetos every day playing video games and I don't aspire to make more money or get in better shape, I don't necessarily deserve a bad bitch, do I? So my thing is I look at it like effectively women that are in sex work are the equivalent right from a female perspective of a homeless dude and what I mean
by this is that that man doesn't have status he doesn't have certain things in place he's not attractive That's how men feel about women that are sex workers.
They'll hang out with them maybe for a night or whatever, but they won't be seen in public with them.
Just like you might give a homeless guy a dollar because you feel sorry for him.
Well, you might fuck a sex worker because you want to get your dick wet and you feel sorry for her to a degree.
Yeah, she might be hot, but you're not going to take her seriously.
I feel like it's a tough subject.
There's no one right answer, and I feel like people who are involved in this stuff are going to have to make peace with certain realities, like you said.
It's a complicated topic.
This isn't to attack you at all.
I just found it interesting.
So, we talked about two things that your friends said you should break up with him.
The three-something, and then him calling you stupid because of a cat jumping up on a furnace.
Anything else that your friends said you should break up with him for?
Not that I can think of.
So, you got rid of a five-month relationship for two things that were fairly valid?
He moved away.
Well, so that's, I guess, another thing.
Where'd he move to?
He moved to Vegas.
He didn't invite you to come?
Find a wholesome woman out there.
He didn't invite you to come?
Where the prostitutes are legal.
I mean, we were talking about it, but it just, yeah, I don't think he wanted me to come.
Okay, and your friend told you to break up with him?
Yeah.
What's the longest relationship you've been in, Sarah?
Three years.
And what was your age for that?
He was 54 and I was 26 when we first started dating.
26 to 29?
Yeah.
Why'd you break up with him?
We became mostly like friends.
It was kind of like we were roommates at a certain point.
Did your friends also get involved in you breaking up with him?
Yep.
Not really.
Your name is Anna Nicole Smith.
That's your new name.
Don't cap.
Come on.
Be honest.
Before.
For real, did they not?
Were there like, oh yeah, like this 57 year old guy, like we can really, you know, don't worry about threesome guy.
Who was the ex I just told you about.
Okay.
So I'm assuming the guy that was 54 years old had some money.
54, 57.
I mean, he was comfortable, but he wasn't rich.
Okay, so he wasn't a millionaire, but he had money.
Yeah.
Okay, so did he have more money than the guy you left him for?
Yeah.
He did.
Yeah, the last guy I dated was broke.
And then you broke up with him because it just wasn't exciting, and we know for a fact your friends were involved.
You don't want to admit it, but your friends definitely told you to break up with him.
When you fucking at 54, they did.
Why did they say break up with him?
We did a reality show together and he said that I wasn't the best that he's had in bed.
So you broke up with him because of your ego and sexual inadequacy?
I felt like he humiliated me and my friends.
It was a pretty humiliating thing.
You're like, well, you know my girlfriend?
Well, she's not the best I've had.
What's a breakup to drop a three-year relationship for that?
And other things.
Just like I said, we were just friends.
We weren't even having sex.
So why did you care?
Why did you care if you guys were just friends and you guys weren't fucking like that?
I was trying to make it work.
How?
You were jerking them off?
It was just too soft?
Grab it here!
Grab it here, Chad!
I'm just asking the questions that Chad wants to know the answer to.
You know what it is.
No, so the thing, like, again, where I'm getting at with this is that, so you broke up with the one guy off of things that weren't that big of a deal.
You could have moved to Vegas with him because you have a digital business.
He didn't want me to move with him, though.
Did you ever ask yourself why he didn't want you to move?
Of course.
Okay, why do you think he didn't want you to move?
I didn't think he was that into me.
Yeah, of course.
Why do you think he wasn't that into you?
Because he shamed her on public TV. He's like, this is not the best I've ever had.
No, no, no.
I'm just defending her because I like her.
Well, he did tell me that he didn't take me seriously because I do OnlyFans.
I think that played a big factor in it.
But you stayed with him?
I did.
Even though he told you that?
Yeah.
So, going back to what I was saying before, that literally proves what I was telling you before.
I know, I know.
I was just about to say, like, it goes back to what we were just talking about.
Hey, man, I don't fucking miss.
Here's the thing.
I think, right, you had two relationships that probably could have potentially went somewhere, but your friends got involved and fucked it up for you.
Especially the older guy that had his money together.
I mean, he wasn't rich, maybe, but he was comfortable.
And he took some of your best years from you, and now you're 30 years old and single.
I mean, well, with a threesome guy for two months, I think.
So wouldn't it be fair to say that your girlfriends kind of actually hurt you, gave you destructive advice for a relationship that could have been salvaged?
No, because the first guy, the older guy, I mean, I wasn't really that into him anymore anyway.
But it lasted for three years.
I know, but it just fizzled out.
You weren't into someone and you stuck with them for three years?
I think you're saying that now to rationalize your decision.
I met the other guy, the guy who went to Vegas, and I liked him, so I wanted to date him.
And then I met my guy who I'm with now.
Did you think about maybe putting your OnlyFans and doing what he wanted?
For the right guy, I would really have to consider it.
I would.
Can you define the right guy?
Let's hear it.
Somebody who makes me happy.
None of these guys made me happy.
Does fresh make you happy?
Fresh?
I don't even know her.
You guys can get to know each other.
Chill up, man.
Get him fresh.
Fresh never does the rush emoji.
I think your friends gave you destructive advice.
This is the thing.
Girls, typically what I've realized is they receive advice from friends.
And even though it's terrible advice, they think, oh, this is good advice because it's the easy way out.
Your example.
Oh, just don't talk to him anymore.
Okay, that's easy enough.
Just block him.
Let me just not talk to him anymore.
Your situation.
Just break up with him.
He called you stupid because you actually did something stupid.
Or, you know, the Vegas thing.
Instead of saying, oh, he didn't ask me to come to Vegas, you should ask yourself, why didn't he ask me to go to Vegas?
Maybe I'm not being the best girlfriend.
Maybe I could do something better, etc.
Maybe I should leave OnlyFans because this guy might be worth it.
Like, I don't think girls do what's hard or what's required to keep the man a lot of the times.
They go with the shitty advice that their friends give.
Because, you know, let's be honest here, it's easier to be a hoe than to be a good girlfriend.
Not saying you guys are hoes, but I'm saying it's easier to do single girl shit than to stay in a relationship.
Relationships are hard and nobody wants it.
You start to get into a relationship and then when things are hard and you have to make decisions and what's going to be best, it's like nobody wants to take what's actually going to be beneficial to them.
It's just easier to...
Lie and break up and go to the club.
And the other thing, too, also that women don't want to admit, but I say it all the time, it's on the woman to keep the relationship going.
It's your job to keep the man.
After he fucks, the burner performance is on you.
Yep.
Facts.
Big facts.
Big, big facts.
So I just think that's another thing, too.
Like, girls go with their friend's advice because it's easier a lot of the time.
Stop talking to him.
Go date other guys, etc.
It's always easier when a girl's single back on the market to just go out there and find another dude.
And nine times out of ten that these girls are getting this fucking advice from, it's some fucking hoe.
Some jaded ho.
Her heart is broken from some 23-year-old encounter that she had.
And she's just like, oh, you know what?
What did this guy?
You know, he bought you flowers, but he bought you fucking yellow flowers instead of red.
Like, oh my god, what a fucking toxic narcissist.
Dump him.
Okay, interesting.
Because here's the other thing, too.
Those two guys that you were with before, I guarantee you, they're probably doing a lot better now.
You could have been enjoying some of that, you know, betterment that they're getting right now.
As you age as a woman, your value goes down.
As men age, typically, their value goes up.
They work on themselves.
You know what I mean?
And most of the time, there's nothing more stimulating for a guy to get out there and work than being single and getting his girl to bring up with him.
Do you think that the situation changes when the guy also does OnlyFans, though?
Or if he's doing OnlyFans with you, filming videos with you?
A man that fucks girls is not the same as a woman that fucks men.
And unfortunately, even if you're on OnlyFans, not fucking guys, and you just have maybe some pornography, whatever, it's always going to be shunned, unfortunately.
It's a stigma that's behind it, unfortunately.
It doesn't matter if you're just posting bikini photos on there.
People are going to think they hear OnlyFans and they think porn.
It's the stigma behind the thing and your value when you do it.
And I understand the industry and you can make really great money and whatever.
I don't knock people for doing it, but I just think that a lot of women don't understand.
They think, oh, I'm going to be this bad boss bitch, and I'm going to make all this money, and I'm going to pay for myself for everything.
But it's like, then these same women wonder why no man will take them seriously, and they can't settle down.
And yeah, you guys are saying like, Oh, well, a man just has to accept that.
Okay, well, you have to understand that the man that's going to accept that is probably going to be some bottom-of-the-barrel loser that you're not going to be happy with, but that's the life that you chose, and now that's on the internet, and it's forever, and you put yourself out there, and you decided to do that.
So, like, you have to accept that that's the path that you took.
Like...
I've thought for years, like a lot of my friends have told me for years, also bad advice.
Why don't you just make an OnlyFans?
You can make so much money in OnlyFans.
Yes, I absolutely probably could.
I don't care what anyone thinks, but to me, the risk is not worth the reward.
I don't care if I could be making 10k a month.
I will fucking struggle until I find the man that's going to take care of me and I'm going to bust my ass working the right way and making money in the small business that I made for myself the right way until I find someone who I love and loves me that's going to take care of me and he will provide for me and I will provide for him.
But because I decided not to make that choice and hold myself at a certain value, I will have high value people that will take me seriously.
But you take yourself out of a category.
When you decide to go down that path.
It's like if you meet a guy, he's like, yeah, I love to go to Hooters.
I go there because the wings are like...
I'm here for the wings because the ear glasses are extra chilled.
Wait, the wings are fire, though!
Alright, so you said you didn't have a situation like that with advice.
What about you?
You said, do your friends give you good advice?
And if so, what's the best piece of advice you got?
Probably more of the...
Advice giver?
Yeah, I am, 100%.
So you've never got good advice from your friends?
She looks down on them.
No, definitely not.
You peasants!
They're just younger.
That's all.
But yeah, no, honestly, I can't really...
You can't think?
Okay, what's the...
I guess, have you gotten bad advice then from them?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
What's the worst piece of advice you got then?
Well, I was with a high-value man, and girls would be jealous of that and try and tell me to get me to get away from them and stuff like that.
What do they tell you?
Can you define high-value...
Well, mine, we ran a business together.
We flipped homes together.
He was a strong fit.
He taught me a lot of things.
We really grew together, so he definitely was a high-value man.
It's just that we weren't meant for each other in the end.
That's all.
What did your friends tell you that was destructive to your relationship?
What was the worst piece of advice you got when you were with them?
Honestly, the jealousy, they just wanted me to leave them just so I didn't have them.
What did they say to put that trigger in your head to leave them?
Leave him?
The words, leave him.
But they have to rationalize it somehow.
Like, if we were to get into an argument, and if it was something I'd say, they'd just automatically be like, oh, you should just leave him, or I can't wait for you to leave him, or something like that, because, like, a lot of girls, whenever a problem arises, they like to run from it.
Me, I don't mind sticking it out and figuring it out, because I'm a problem solver.
I like it.
And I'm also a giver, so I, like, I did eight years, you know, so it was...
How long were you with him?
Eight years.
Okay.
Do you think, because you said that you guys weren't a match, which, I mean...
We weren't a match in the end because of his sexual preferences that I could not handle.
Which is what?
Multiple women?
White girls?
Everybody!
Oh, he's bisexual?
Oh, I couldn't do that one either.
Don't reference me as bisexual.
Point, Chris.
But damn, it took you eight years to figure that out?
Yes, he was very...
Yeah, he was, um...
It was definitely a double life situation, for sure.
Okay, how long is the relationship that you find out that he was on that?
Eight years.
Oh, you thought I would find out and stay?
Yeah, okay, so once you find out...
He was sucking dick on the side?
Yeah, I found pictures and videos.
Yeah, I found pictures and videos.
The whole time he was touching other dudes and getting fucked in the ass?
The whole time he was touching other dudes?
Oh, I don't know about the whole time.
I just know.
Let's see the top or the bottom.
Was it white?
Was he white?
And it was fucking you too!
Was he white?
The white man, bro.
White people down.
White power!
White men are out of the box.
You know what?
White men are great again.
I'm so sorry.
That's fine.
I wouldn't even touch that.
I'm traumatized.
I'm traumatized.
Guys, can you give her some space so she can come in?
Okay, what about you?
You said your friends feed into your delusion.
Can you explain the worst piece of advice they gave you that feeds into your delusion?
I mean, honestly, it wouldn't really just be something specific.
It's just like whenever I'm about to do something that's a really bad decision, they kind of just tell me that it's a good decision.
Give us an example.
Okay.
I really don't have an example right now.
Bro, you gotta give us an example.
Come on.
Okay.
I'm gonna come back to you.
Okay.
You've had all this time to think.
I'm gonna come back to you.
Think of an example where you got a really bad piece of advice that fed into your delusion.
Alright, what about you, Miss Serbia?
Do your friends give you good advice?
I pick very carefully my friends, and I think twice before I share my private life with any friend.
Okay.
Smart.
Yes.
But I thought you said earlier that your close friends give you good advice.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Okay.
What's the best piece of advice you got?
Don't backtrack it now.
I mean, probably with my first, first boyfriend ever.
Okay, what'd they say?
Just to leave him, but they had like 100% right.
Okay, why did they say leave him?
Go ahead.
How long were we out together?
Six years on and off.
Okay.
Why did they say leave him?
Because he was like freaking out whenever I'm like anywhere outside, like past 9 p.m.
with my friends.
So he was territorial with you?
He was controlling.
Was he Serbian?
Yes.
I dated a Serbian.
He was controlling.
What did he have issues with in particular?
He said you being outside at night past 9pm.
What were you doing outside at night?
Were you wearing tops like this going out?
It doesn't matter what I was doing.
No, it does matter.
If you're going to call him a psychopath and controlling, we need to know exactly what he was trying to control.
So what was he doing?
First of all, he was in the other city.
It was a long distance relationship.
So he didn't know what I was wearing.
Let's say I left the house 7 p.m.
I said I'm going for a drink.
Already at 9.30, he's calling, he's saying be home till 10.
He calls 10.05, screaming, are you home?
Are you home?
Who you with?
No, no, no.
And it wasn't like one time.
And I was loyal to him.
So I don't care.
What were you doing at 7 o'clock?
What were you doing?
I was outside with friends.
Girlfriends.
Drinking at clubs and stuff?
No, it's early, 7 p.m.
I wasn't drunk.
Were you out drinking alcohols in clubs?
Where were you going?
Clubs are open at 7 p.m.?
Single girls can do that too, man.
You've been to Serbia, just relax.
Let the Serbian girl talk.
Yeah, it's just a bar.
Bar, bar.
Awww.
Single girls can do that too, though.
But guess what?
She's starting also, like, all the time.
Okay, let me ask you this.
The girls that you were with, were they single?
I think...
I don't remember.
They were single.
Or if they were married, you'd remember them.
Like, yeah, she's a cute baby.
No, not married.
Because I was at that time 19, 20.
You know, it was like a long time ago.
Okay.
So, okay.
So you were...
So he was...
What else made him, you know, go crazy?
So you're going to bars, you're drinking.
What else?
You were out with your girlfriends.
What else made him controlling to you?
What else did you try to restrict?
Not answering my phone whenever he calls.
That's fucked up.
Okay, you're not answering his calls.
What's fucked up?
Me not answering?
Yes, your boyfriend's calling and you're like, ah, loser.
How do you know I had that type of reaction?
Like, I'm allowed not to see the call.
If I call you back as soon as I can, that's cool.
I agree.
What else were you doing that pissed him off?
Just not texting back straight away in two seconds.
Just giving himself too much freedom and not giving me any space.
Trying to put me in a box and next thing you know he's posting pictures with random people, random girls and guys.
God knows where he met them, whatever.
Do you think men and women are the same?
No, no.
Give me some more direct, specific, specific questions.
In which way?
Okay, I'll make it simple.
The opportunities that are presented to you, do you think your boyfriend can also, or your ex in this case, do you think he would also get those same opportunities as a man?
Sexually.
Let's say free drinks when he goes out.
Would he get the same amount of attention?
No.
You wouldn't?
Okay.
So let me ask you something.
If you have an expensive, let's say you have an expensive watch, an expensive Rolex, right?
And you're in a very, you live in a ghetto neighborhood, a bad neighborhood.
Would you put the watch in a safe to protect it at night when you're not wearing it?
Yes.
You would.
Why would you do that?
Because you care about it.
Because you care about it.
Okay.
Now let's say you have a piece of shit watch.
Okay.
A lot of guys got mad when I said Nacio last time.
Like Myron's red-faced Rolex.
There you go.
Yeah, sure.
Let's say you can have a piece of crap watch, right?
Yeah.
Would you put that in the safe?
No.
Sorry trying to say that I'm a high-value person.
A girlfriend.
No, I'm not saying that.
No, no.
I'm not saying that.
No, no.
We're saying that you're a watch.
Okay.
You're a watch.
That's fine.
Okay.
Besides these guys butchering what I'm trying to say here.
What I'm saying is that when a guy puts boundaries on you, that means he cares about you.
Because here's the thing.
Our women...
Let's see here.
I mean, most of the girls...
Well, actually, we've seen through a lot of the girls here speaking that women give each other terrible advice, right?
Even though they think it's good advice when it's really not, right?
Are women emotional?
Yes.
Okay.
Do women make a lot of decisions based on their emotion?
Yes.
Okay.
Are women spontaneous?
Yes.
Are they heavily influenced by their friends?
Impulsive.
Not you, but in general.
Are women spontaneous?
Yes.
I would argue that you are kind of spontaneous if you're going out to drink at 7pm with your girlfriends, but that's fine.
Actions speak louder than words, right?
Would it be fair to say that women heavily influence each other based on maybe the vibe or what's going on?
Nobody can make me do something.
Are women heavily influenced by their friends?
I mean, generally, yes.
Okay.
So if you add alcohol to that, club atmosphere, your girlfriends, being out, etc., it's very easy to see that all these things together can easily lead to something happening, whether it's you being intoxicated if someone assaults you or you cheating on him.
So I would say, why are you mad at him for trying to put his Rolex in a fucking safe?
Because it was too much, you know?
Like, if I'm not trying to control him, or like call him 30,000 times a day, or if I'm not limiting him who he's gonna go out with and everything...
The more valuable the watch, the more vigilant you have to be to protect it.
Meaning I don't care about him, you know?
No, I didn't say that.
I said he cared about you a lot.
He cares about you so much.
Yeah, but she's saying it's a double standard.
Hold on, hold on.
But men don't have inherent value like women do.
It wasn't 2 a.m., 3 a.m.
You know what I mean?
It was like a local bar close to my house.
No, no, no, no.
Look, this is what women don't understand.
Because you guys don't get this, and this is why men operate the way they have to do.
Women are born with value.
Men have to create their value.
So if a guy ends up getting a girl, right?
That's like having a nice watch a lot of the times.
And if you're in a dangerous neighborhood, which let's be honest here, clubs, etc.
would be considered the hood.
You have to put that watch in a fucking safe.
You don't want it out there and about for other people to see and or steal it from you.
And on top of that, you add in alcohol, you add in your ho friends, you add in nightlife, you add in women being emotional, women being spontaneous, all these other things.
This is a recipe for disaster.
She laughed when you said ho friends.
Yeah.
Can I ask her?
She can't even remember.
You want to know how I know that the hoes?
Those Serbian hoes.
She can't even remember what their status was.
I want to ask her a question.
No, no, no.
But you should be able to remember to a degree what those girls' statuses were.
The fact that you can't even remember what their statuses were.
Probably one...
One was single, one was not.
It was mixed, for sure.
I want to ask a question, though.
Besides nightlife, was he controlling everywhere else, too?
Was he controlling in all areas, not just you wanting to go out to the bar?
As I said, calls, messages, just to keep in touch.
Was it only when you were out?
Was it just regarding nightlife?
Or was it everything?
Because there's a huge difference.
Even at home, whatever.
I'm not texting him back soon.
Men need to be territorial and controlling with their girls to a degree.
Because here's the problem.
The things that we tell women is appropriate in modern day society, going out with your girlfriends, drinking alcohol, hanging out with men that aren't necessarily...
But I was also starting to agree with what you were saying there.
That's why I'm trying to figure out, was he always controlling?
Always just like...
It's not about always controlling.
He has to...
Here's the thing.
His boundaries have to align with this girl's behavior.
The reason why he was behaving the way that he was, which she might think is controlling and excessive, is because what she was doing was not girlfriend behavior.
So he has to respond accordingly.
Hey, I need to call her.
I need to do all this shit.
Normally, I would never do that personally, but I can see why he responded the way that he did.
Her behaviors were not conducive of a good girlfriend.
So he has to step up his angle as a guy and put more security upon her because her behaviors were not conducive to her relationship.
The reason he reached out and was doing that is because he liked you.
That's not what I was saying, man.
Because if he didn't like you, he'd be like, alright, just like fucking, who cares, let's go for you.
This is coming from someone who had an extremely toxic, overbearing, controlling partner where even if you're not going out with your girlfriends or whatever, he's still flipping the fuck out.
If you're in a relationship with a man, why the fuck are you in a club?
Why are you drinking alcohol?
That's the context of this conversation.
That's what I'm trying to say.
If you're in a relationship as a woman, you need to give up certain behaviors and habits and things that you did when you were single.
The thing is that girls want to be able to behave like they're single while simultaneously having a boyfriend.
And I'm saying that's not appropriate.
If you want to behave like you're single and have a for sale sign on their neck, fantastic.
You are single.
You don't deserve a relationship.
But the problem is that girls want to be able to simultaneously double dip, act like they're single while having a sucker at home.
I tell guys, don't be that fucking sucker at home because she doesn't deserve a relationship if she's not willing to bet it all on you.
But when girls want to go out and shit, what are they basically saying?
Oh, I'm still on the market.
I'm available.
They want to gamble.
And I'm saying, guys, don't be the fucking gambler.
Just because a woman goes out doesn't mean she's trying to gamble.
She may just be enjoying her life with her friends.
Statistically speaking, it's just like a low ROI activity regardless.
Like, bitch, you really gotta go out and get drunk with your friends.
No, but if the man really is, for example, that high-value guy that you like, you're going to address what he's saying.
So, for example, if the guy was value enough, more valuable than you are to him, for example, like, let's say that guy you're talking to is the guy that you actually want to be with.
He says to you, you know what, babe, I don't like this.
Because you want to stay with him, you can actually do those things.
Because, for example, maybe he wasn't that much value for you at that point.
That's what I'm thinking.
What about the guys that are super insecure, that were traumatized from a former relationship, are now projecting their insecurities onto you?
Don't dig them!
Or guys that are doing that themselves?
Let me ask you a question, because women love to throw this term out, insecure.
Am I more secure if I tell you what my boundaries are, what I want, and I don't care about what you think?
Or am I more secure if I'm scared to tell you what I want and accept from a girlfriend?
Which one is more secure?
The guy who tells you what it is, the truth, regardless of how you behave?
The first one, right?
So I would argue the guy that has boundaries and tells you his standards and tells you what he likes versus what he doesn't like is very secure.
It's not insecure when a guy tells you, this is not behavior that I'm willing to accept.
I would argue the guy that doesn't tell a girl, I don't like this and I don't like that, is insecure when...
I understand and I agree.
Real fast.
99% of men, this is why women don't know this, because men aren't honest with women.
99% of men, if they're out dating a woman, they would prefer for her to be inside, not be at the club, not hanging out with their single-ass friends that are more than likely promiscuous hoes, and doing things that are conducive to a girl being single.
But most men don't have the balls to tell their girl that because they're going to respond with what you just said.
That's insecure behavior.
No, I would argue a man's very secure when he tells a woman, this is what I accept, this is what I don't accept.
If you're going to engage in these types of behaviors, you're effectively single.
So if you're in a relationship and you guys are both being 100% with each other, you guys are not doing anything, so you're saying you can never go out and have a guy's night and she can never go out and have a girl's night?
No, no.
I can do whatever I want.
She stays inside.
No, that's not.
There's gotta be communication there.
Myron is right.
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
Myron's right at the end of the day.
Myron's right at the end of the day.
The majority of girls are angry about this.
If you're angry about this, you're probably single.
Just saying.
Are you single?
Why can't everybody be single by choice?
Because I have multiple suitors.
So why don't you like it though?
Because I have my own life.
I can't spend my entire life sitting inside waiting for you to come home or taking care of your baby or cooking or cleaning for you while you go out and make experiences and memories throughout your entire life.
What about me?
What about my memories?
What about my experiences?
What about creating memories with my friends?
You know what's funny?
Adam and Eve, right at the very beginning of the Bible, Adam had a whole lifestyle for himself.
Evil's made after she came into it.
She said, you know what?
What about me?
There was one rule.
Don't eat the fruit.
No, fuck that.
What about me?
I want to taste the fruit.
We're all fucked up right now because of that shit.
If that story is real.
It is real.
It is real.
So you think.
You godless Jezebel.
You mentioned before, double standard, etc.
Why is it that women complain about double standards when it doesn't benefit them?
For example, women have...
I always point out double standards, whether it's for the benefit of women or benefit of men.
Double standards overwhelmingly benefit women.
Sexism inherently benefits women.
The only double standards that I could think of that actually benefits a man is that men can have sex and be promiscuous without really, you know, being judged.
Emotionally caught up.
Yeah, but in general, women enjoy most of the double standards.
How many times you had a side piece, like, try to, like...
Take a shot at the fucking main girl.
And you're like, bitch, know your place.
You know what I'm talking about.
Seriously, that's a double standard.
But again, going back to what I was saying, as a man, I have to build up my value.
As a woman, your value is already given to you.
Like I said before, a woman's like a Rolex.
Can you give some examples of how double standards benefit women?
Some examples?
Affirmative action.
Women have all the same rights and privileges that men do, while simultaneously still being able to enjoy privileges that only women can enjoy.
So in other words, if you compete with a man for the same job, especially if it's the same job that is male-dominated, you're going to get that job over that man.
Women are able to go to nightclubs.
Women have way more prospects in dating.
Thanks to Instagram and online dating in general, women have more options than ever before.
So I would argue that women have all the same rights and privileges as men, and then some.
Sexism and double standards inherently benefit women.
There wouldn't be a WNBA if it wasn't for sexism.
There wouldn't be a double standard in the military if it weren't for women.
If we were going to really be equal as you guys want, it would be one standard.
But what do we do?
We muddy the waters to let women give women opportunity because women are inferior in a lot of things, unfortunately, from a physicality standpoint.
Especially in sports.
Trans dudes just fucking dominating.
Transformers?
So that's my thing.
I would say women only complain about double standards when they don't benefit them.
But most double standards inherently benefit women.
I always point out double standards, whether it's for benefiting a woman or a man, I always point out double standards.
There's far more that benefit women.
I agree with that, but I always point out.
So one of the ones that you don't like is that a man going out and doing certain things is not the same as a woman going out and doing certain things.
I'm not a gold diamond Rolex like a woman is a lot of the times, especially an attractive one.
You've got to protect your jewelry.
What if you are the Rolex if you're rich, men?
Yeah, high value man is a Rolex.
Everybody will jump on you.
Everybody will jump on you.
They had to earn that.
Okay.
And then on top of that...
Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know what?
Hold on.
Let's make this very simple so that the women understand this concept because I noticed I have to use analogies for them to understand.
Let's go into a dream world real quick, okay, ladies?
Let's say we grew up down the street from each other, okay?
I grew up extremely rich.
My fucking parents are taking it, alright?
You on the other hand, you grew up very poor, right?
We both go to high school together, right?
At 18 years old, I get $3 million.
You at 18 years old, you have to go to college and figure it out, right?
You see me on Instagram, partying, living life, going to Vegas, jet flying, Ric Flair type shit.
I'm partying all over the place.
I'm going crazy, right?
Bitches everywhere.
My life is lit.
You, on the other hand, had to sacrifice, work really hard, go to school, scale up three businesses, fail here and there, etc.
Ten years passes.
We're both 28 years old.
Now you have 3 million, but I gambled all my money away.
I spent it at the casino, some cocaine, hookers, living that fast life, right?
We meet at a high school reunion, and I tell you, hey, let me give you some financial advice, and I go and talk to you about cryptocurrency and all this shit that I used to do, whatever.
Would you take my financial advice?
Seriously, we'll start right here.
Yes or no?
No.
You gambled all your money away.
What about you?
No.
Nope.
Why?
Why?
Yeah, why?
Because you had money, you worked for nothing, and you lost it being irresponsible, and you don't know how to get it back.
Okay, what about you?
Yeah, no, like you pissed it all away, man.
What about you?
No.
No?
Nope.
No.
Nope.
No.
Nope.
No.
Nope!
I mean, you might know something, how to do it well, because you started well, but...
No, he was given that shit.
He worked for nothing.
Nope!
Even in Serbia, no.
What about you?
No.
No?
Derek, we know.
Nope.
What about you?
I say yes.
Okay.
Why would you take my advice seriously?
First, you don't lose that money in just one night.
And you must learn something after you lost that money.
Oh, you would learn from my mistakes?
Yeah, because your life changed.
So you really wouldn't take my advice.
You would listen, but you would do the opposite of what I said.
Yeah.
- Very Chinese answer. - W China. - W GGP. - Why is my learn from mistakes?
- Okay, fantastic, ladies.
So, yo, yo, hold on.
So, that's exactly how men feel about women that try to tell them what they can and can't do with their sexuality.
You guys are trust fund babies.
Men are self-made millionaires.
For a man to be attractive takes a lot of fucking work.
It takes years.
Women, on the other hand, as soon as you turn 18, you basically get an endowment.
So you can't tell us how to spend our money when you were given it from the beginning.
And it's funny, too, because when you become a successful guy, and your name starts getting out before you, and you're like, wait a minute, why are all these bitches treating me differently?
You have to ease into it.
It's kind of like the same, when a woman starts to turn 35, she's like, wait a minute, why are all these guys ignoring me?
You guys see the concept that I'm trying to say here?
A woman cannot dictate to a man how to spend his value when your value was given to you up front.
Women are effectively trustful babies when it comes to dating and dealing with opposite gender.
Men are self-made millionaires.
That's why you can't dictate how a man moves, especially when he's built himself up to a certain point.
What if we built ourselves also?
You haven't built shit.
What if we are a millionaire?
Okay, you said what if you built yourself up?
And then what?
Ms.
Servio, you said what if you built yourself up?
Yes.
What if a woman is a woman and a successful woman?
No, guys don't care.
They don't care.
They don't care at all.
I'll look at a girl at the fry basket at McDonald's, but I could make this work.
But if a fucking woman are 30, she's like, I have my master's.
I'm like, yeah, when you're 30, get away from me.
We'll make this simple.
You got two 19-year-olds here right now in Miami, right?
And they're living a certain lifestyle.
They're getting slingshots, whatever.
Do you think a guy that was a manager at Dairy Queen could come down to Miami and get a slingshot for free?
Answer me that question!
I don't know.
If he's...
Would you date a 19-year-old from fucking Dairy Queen?
No.
Younger than me, no.
Okay, so that proves my point.
Men don't give a fuck about a woman's money.
No, but I do.
You care about what?
A woman's money.
If I made something in my life or not.
Her money, because she's 28.
Okay, but what I'm telling you is, who picks the woman?
Okay.
Okay, so fuck what you want.
What does a guy want?
I want to play video games all day, but do women want guys that play video games all day and sit inside and don't make money?
No, but...
So why is it that the man has to know what you want, but you don't have to care what he wants?
I do care, but it's disrespectful that she's partying all night.
I just explained to her that they don't care about money.
These two girls are proving that.
Men don't care about money.
Okay.
So your money is irrelevant.
But I know for a fact guys that are, let's say, lawyers, doctors, and they don't want to deal with someone that is not educated.
Really?
Wait, wait, wait.
You're in the club all the time.
Those guys that have money, do they care about the girls' careers in their section?
I don't care about those guys.
Why don't you have your career written right here?
They're natural, first of all.
No, I didn't say they were not natural.
I said, why don't you have your career, your annual salary?
They have boobs also.
I don't talk about their boobs.
He loves yours.
He really does.
Ladies, I mean, it's very simple.
Women care about a man's status and income because women look for security.
Men don't give a shit about that.
That's why a girl that's 18 years old can come down to Miami and have the time of her life because men don't care about the things that you guys care about.
That's a fact.
Okay.
95% of situations.
Okay, so you want to make an argument for the 5%?
No.
No.
So what's your point?
No, I'm just saying.
Is this conversation or not?
No, it's a conversation, but if we're going to make a debate or argument, you've got to make an argument in generalities.
And my thing is that your career is irrelevant to most men.
Most, not all.
Can we write your salary?
The men that you care about, the men that have money and status, they care even less about your money and status.
But if a guy, he's working really hard for his job, but he's not making good money, then he cares about money because he won the money.
And those are the men that y'all don't want.
That's the guy that's going to try to make you go 50-50 on a date.
That's the men you don't want.
50-50 on red.
No.
And those are the men that you don't want.
So that's what I'm trying to say.
That's why men know deep down that a woman's money is irrelevant because women don't want to share their money with a guy anyway.
Every girl's dream?
Y'all don't want to admit this, but I'll admit it for you.
You want to be able to have a job and work, but be able to tell your boss at any time, fuck you, my man takes care of me.
And my money is my money.
That's every girl's dream.
They want to work electively.
Not mandatorily.
I hope it's a good point.
Go ahead.
Excuse me, so I want to talk now.
You didn't have a thing, remember?
No, wait, let me tell you why I don't have a thing.
Because my friends all, thank God they don't speak English, so they cannot see this.
And they live in Mexico, and my lifestyle, if I ask for advice, do I should do this on this?
I know the answer, stay.
Because my life is different than their life.
I'm in a different country, in a different world, different status.
Sadly, I represent that 5%.
I don't agree on what you say.
You don't agree about what?
I was a trophy wife.
Okay.
That was the reason I got divorced.
Okay.
So he paid and took care of you.
I'm sorry?
He paid for you and took care of you and you stayed at home.
He paid for everything with the money.
Okay.
And for example, for me, he works and he travels a lot.
He had a company.
He's very successful.
Yeah.
But for me, birthdays and Mother's Day, like five days a year are important for me.
Okay.
So for example, I hope you don't see this.
So he took care of you for 361 days, but you're mad about five No, let me I think it took care of her for five any Speak first and before you don't interrupt me.
Thank Thank you.
Let me be very clear about this.
Don't do that.
I'm sorry.
You're on my fucking podcast.
Don't ever disrespect me like that again.
I'm sorry.
I'm not your ex-husband.
Don't talk to me like that.
Don't forget where the fuck you're at.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Tell your story.
So basically, for me, dates are very important and was Valentine's and I was in the school.
He was traveling a lot.
And I said, what are you going to be for Valentine's?
I'm going to Las Vegas for Super Bowl.
That's fucked up.
And her husband's like, hey, bitch, I'm going to be at Valentine's Day for fucking Super Bowl.
Deal with it.
Let me finish the same.
I'm sorry.
So I always say, like, my rich goal is to get this back.
This is my back.
After this back, I can die.
You know, like, this is my rich goal.
So he's like, do you mind if we celebrate Valentine's, like, one week before?
In my city, you're going with your lover, fucker, hooker, one week before.
Because actually, on Valentine's Day, you are with your wife.
So he told me that day, and he gave me the back I wanted.
So on Valentine's, I spent alone in my house.
Crying because he was in Las Vegas having fun with his male friends and I was alone at my house and I can tell you, like, my birthday is here.
Like, happy birthday.
We're going somewhere.
You didn't book anything?
Like, want me to book anything?
Yeah, you had the credit cards.
Book something for you for your birthday.
Like, can you make a surprise for me?
Can you book me something?
Okay, so...
That's a little fucked up.
You didn't like that he went to the Super Bowl on Valentine's Day and that he wasn't around for your birthday?
She gave him children, too.
Yeah, that's even more so why I think...
Okay, so you don't like that he wasn't around for Valentine's Day and your birthday?
Those two days?
Yes.
So, two days of the year you're mad about and you're gonna throw away the other 363?
No, the thing is like...
How you can say that?
I'm very chill.
He used to travel a lot.
And I always say, what would you schedule?
To these days, don't travel.
I told her, like, she said the boyfriend more than I said my husband the last year.
Yeah.
Because he was going to Naples with friends.
He had a house in Florida, two family friends.
He got to the job with the friends.
Like, basically, during pandemic, he didn't suffer.
And I didn't see a pandemic very often.
Probably in the two years, I see he three months.
Okay.
But you didn't work, though?
He took care of you.
Yes, he did.
So you do realize that with higher status men that are able to take care of you, that are traveling, whatever, what comes with that a lot of times is you might not see them all the time.
That is the thing where I say I'm not part of the 5% of the things that women want somebody to take care of it.
Because I got in the points, like, I got in meetings and people asked me, and I'm Mexican, you know?
You were married with them for 12 years, you said?
We were married for 7 years.
We were together for 12 years.
Okay, so you met him when you were, you're 32 now, you met him when you were 20?
Yes.
Okay.
And you got married, and you got married at how old?
I was 27.
27 when you got married to him?
27, 25, something like that.
Okay, yeah, 25 probably makes sense.
And he took care of you the whole time?
Yes.
Well, here's the thing.
You just got on a dating market at 32 years old.
You're going to realize why you should have stayed with him.
I agree.
And seriously, I can't say I'm struggling.
Not for, like, situation of money.
More for, like, be divorced.
It's a big thing.
And more, like, today's cultural event.
I lost friends because I'm divorced.
I'm still the husband.
Let's stay that way.
And also, the things...
I always get bored because I'm Mexican and we were in a meeting with people, the important people that you are the husband of, you are the husband of, you are the wife of.
And I really want to be somebody for my own, you know?
I didn't want to, oh, you are the wife.
And what do you do?
Yeah, but to be honest with you, no one really cares about women's accomplishments.
There's a reason why women take a man's last name.
What you're chasing doesn't matter.
What really matters is being married, having a family, having children.
I think that's what she's saying.
She's saying the title of having a husband is important in those contexts.
I thought she said it wasn't important.
She was saying that it was embarrassing because she was like, I was at this place and she's like, oh, I'm the wife of XYZ. I'm the wife of XYZ. And she has to sit here and be like, I'm divorced.
But don't worry, she has MLD now.
There you go!
Do you like sushi?
I'll be honest.
That was a bad move to leave your guy that you've been with.
Because here's the thing.
You know who takes an L here, right?
It's you.
He had you during your best years.
He's in his prime now.
He's in his prime.
You're on your decline.
You're 32 years old.
You divorced him.
He had money.
He took care of you.
Now any guy you date at this point, you're not going to find another millionaire.
You're not going to find a guy that's going to take care of you like that.
You can't say that.
She may possibly know that.
I'm right here.
It's a possibility.
There's one right there.
You just said a key word.
You said it's what?
A possibility.
But is it probable?
Nope.
Yes, it is possible.
A possibility is probable.
There's two different definitions.
Yeah, two different things.
Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's probable.
This is the delusion that females have.
Women think just because it's possible, it's probable.
No, it's not probable because the men that she's vying for that make the kind of money that her husband made before, those guys are chasing after 21-year-olds, not 32-year-olds.
In general, I would say yes, most are, but you can't say that everyone is like that.
When a man reaches a certain status and income level, they want to demand the best women that they can get.
Men overwhelmingly prefer women that are young, beautiful, and youthful, and attractive.
That's what men look for.
We don't give a fuck about money and status.
Who has this in abundance?
Younger women.
So, here's the thing.
She's 32 now.
She's not going to be able to compete with a girl that's 22.
But I have something today that I didn't have in that time.
I go to sleep and I feel good to myself.
I was educated different.
I came from a very traditional family and I really feel I was selling myself to be in a place that wasn't mine.
Yeah, it's kind of like you...
So today, I have...
I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
I have my dignity and I feel good.
Because I was feeling alone being with someone.
So today I'm alone, but I know that person is not there.
So it's different for perspective.
It's kind of like you guys are saying that a woman should stay in a relationship to be cared for.
At some point, right?
Understand.
Your dream or, for example, your lifestyle where you were living, most women would die for that.
For example, me taking care of.
It's probably not going to happen again.
But it's not failing.
It's not failing though.
But notice, right?
Women will also complain at the most smallest things.
Now, mind you, I get it.
You want a quality time with your man.
Understandable.
But he's busy working for you and for him.
So ultimately, you're getting the dream life, but at a cost.
Versus yourself, you work yourself and then you're single.
It's kind of like, what end of the coin do you actually want?
Of course.
And I assume the cost.
Are you getting alimony?
I do.
Oh, Dios mio.
I don't feel sorry for you at all anymore.
She's getting alimony and then you're probably getting child support too.
How much alimony are you getting there?
Child support and everything.
Yeah, that's why she was like, I'm going to, this is why I'm trying to say divorce is like a terrible institution.
Can we switch sheets of her, Ling Ling?
It incentivizes women.
The reason why she felt comfortable to leave is because now she has these training wheels on of being able to be supported by the guy without having to...
And you said earlier you give good advice.
Don't share advice.
What advice did I give?
You said advice to her.
She said that she...
Probability!
She said early on...
Possible.
I definitely...
I firmly believe that a woman doesn't have to base her whole life on someone else taking care of her.
That's why you're single.
No, I'm single because I actively choose to because I am not going to settle to just be in a relationship just to be in one.
I know that I can provide for myself.
When are you going to stop caring about relationships?
When am I going to stop caring about a relationship?
I'm a very emotional person.
I love love.
So I want to be in a relationship, but I want to be...
I can do everything for myself.
So the man that I'm going to be with, it's going to be with him because he truly loves me.
We have a deep emotional connection.
You became the man that you wanted to basically date, is what you're saying.
You became that man.
Yeah, pretty much.
So why do you think that man wants you then?
Why would a man want to date himself?
He doesn't.
He doesn't date himself because I'm not masculine when I'm with him.
I'm still feminine.
He's more masculine.
And I submit to my man, but I'm not going to submit to a man just because he can pay for the lifestyle that I want because I can give myself the lifestyle that I want.
That's what I'm saying.
Let me ask you this since you don't need him, right?
Who are you more likely to help?
An old lady walking down the street struggling with her groceries or an able-bodied man walking down the street that obviously it's no big deal?
An older woman.
Why?
Because she's older.
So why is a rich man that's successful, that has this shit together, going to pick you over a girl that might need him, and she's going to be younger, and she's not going to have...
Because here's the thing.
You're saying that you're not a masculine woman, but you kind of are.
I can tell from you.
I definitely kind of am.
And that comes from your...
Those mannerisms come naturally from your being an entrepreneur.
Yeah, 100%.
Why is a man going to pick you at 28 years old?
Because I'm an asset to him.
Hold on.
Let me please finish my hand.
And a woman, most women are assets.
That's why.
No, here's the thing.
This is right now extremely stressful just talking to you.
I'd like to go into her asset nature.
Like, the thing is that the things that you bring to the table, like these assets that you're talking about, Men don't give a fuck about that stuff.
What are these assets that you bring to the table?
Her money, her status, etc.
Men don't care about these things.
Some men do.
The men that you want that's also entrepreneurial minded etc?
They don't care like that.
Yes they do.
So you're saying you would always want a woman that 100% doesn't really do much except for be feminine and submit to you.
I want to ask you this.
Because you said men want these things that are successful etc.
Would it be fair to say that you make more money than 99% of women and you're more successful than most women as a businesswoman?
At my age, yeah.
Okay, so if these things were so wanted by men, right?
If these traits that you have, you know, being a businesswoman, being an asset, etc.
And you outclass 99% of women, right?
And most women don't ever have these things.
You should be having guys literally that you actually want, by the way, fighting to be with you.
But you don't.
No, I do have guys that want to be with me, but there's a lot of things that I... But you don't want them.
But you don't want to be with them.
But here's the thing.
I quite literally just said that as a caveat.
Guys that you actually want to be with.
You should be having these guys fighting for you, but they're not.
Think about that for a second.
Why are they not?
Because men don't find value in these things.
Honestly, I don't go out on dates often.
I've literally been focusing on myself.
The things that you value that you think are attractive are not what men find attractive.
I would say different because they actually do say that it's attractive.
So being a businesswoman, being masculine, being dominant, being assertive, being aggressive.
I'm not dominant and I'm not aggressive.
You've been overcutting me a bunch of times here.
So you are.
You might say that you're not, but you are.
And I could tell from management's the way that you speak, et cetera.
You're not agreeable.
You've had a point of contention with everything that I said, which is fantastic in the business world.
It's great for making money, but it's not great for keeping the guy around.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm a pretty fairly masculine guy, right?
It's been very unpleasant talking to you, right?
And it's okay because we're having a discussion here.
It's not like we're trying to date or whatever.
But I can't think that a guy that wants to date you or court you would give you a serious chance here that actually has the shit together.
Yeah, they would.
Okay, maybe for sex.
Can we poll the audience of successful men at the table right now?
You know what's funny about this whole dynamic here?
If we weren't in a podcast setting, we'd never be on a date for longer than maybe 10 minutes.
Because the environment itself, our nature, our combative back and forth, it wouldn't even click.
Hold on, I want to ask a panel question to you guys.
So, we can include Chris too.
Chris in the back.
What girl would you choose from this panel to build something with?
Oh, shit.
Wait, are you asking the girls?
No, asking the boys.
Chris.
Chris, start with you.
Lowest opinion first.
Who'd you pick?
Sorry, I was in the bathroom.
So what?
Never mind.
He's in the back for a reason.
Off rip, who would I pick to build something with?
Like a business or a relationship?
A life.
You know what's funny?
Slingshot girl.
Which one is two?
The manager of Slingshot?
Hold on, you know why?
She's young, ready to have fun, and ready to explore.
To give her those experiences, for example, her being open-minded is dope.
Versus like the career path is like, okay, cool.
Set her ways.
Masculine, so to speak.
I'm not setting my ways.
I just stand up for myself.
I'm not going to allow people to try and tell me.
A prerequisite of success is consistency over time.
That by definition means you are setting your ways.
Because being setting your ways is what got you to the point that you are.
Being consistent got me where I am, but being set in my ways did not.
You have to be set in your ways to be consistent.
Not really, because every year you grow.
That's what I mean when I say you're arguing to argue now.
My definition of being consistent, doing the same thing over and over and over again, means you must be set in your ways.
On a day-to-day.
Am I scheduled?
Yes, I am a scheduled person.
So you're not going to bend or fold for someone else.
I will bend her for the right man.
For the right man.
I agree with her on that.
I think she's right.
I agree.
Yeah, but John, she's 29, man.
It's okay.
What am I supposed to do?
Fresh, you're right.
I would choose a girl who was 19, younger.
Guys are going to want a girl that's not set in their own ways.
Older women typically come with bad habits.
Fresh chooses Ariel.
Go ahead.
Me?
Yeah, you go first.
You've been interjecting the whole time, so you might hear.
Sorry, Dad.
I'm sorry.
Turn off my mic.
I'm sorry.
I choose Miss Loudmouth over here, Sarah.
I feel like she knows our program good.
How old are you?
25.
We can make that work.
Yeah, you can.
We can make that work.
Ask her how she knows the program.
Because she's a big fan.
Because I watched the show.
She's a big fan.
She's a big fan of the number one men's self-appropriate podcast in the world.
And there's a big influence here, but I want to say what's going on.
Is it you?
Is it a BBC? No!
Myron?
Uh-oh.
Myron?
Allegedly, Myron.
Allegedly.
Yeah.
Myron likes white women, so.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I'll go with Sarah or I'd go with Sarah.
This one?
Yeah, or one of these two right here.
Serbia?
Yeah, Miss Slingshot or Miss 18 over there.
And that's because the thing is that I know I can coach and lead a woman to success.
You know what you have, Myron, that you give the modern woman what they need?
What?
Guidance.
Guidance, yeah.
Guidance, because these bitches are lost, bro.
9 out of 10.
These bitches are so fucking lost.
When I see a woman, it's like, you know what?
I think I'm going to do OnlyFans.
Like, yeah, your dad didn't love you.
This is terrible.
This is all terrible.
And this gets, you know, people...
And women get mad.
When I say this to whatever, a good man, right, a lot of times has to be a leader and a guider to his girl.
And men have to protect their girl from themselves.
Because y'all even admitted it before.
Girls give each other terrible advice.
And all the things that we tell women to do nowadays are destructive.
Stay single.
Go ahead and push off having children until you're older.
Get an education.
Make a career.
Make a lot of money.
Be successful.
Get that title.
All these things limit your ability to find a man.
So mainstream society lies to women about what it takes to actually find land and, most importantly, keep a guy long-term.
You know what I find funny?
So I have to deprogram a lot of that fuckery out of women a lot of the times.
Yeah, also, you give women a program to follow.
That too.
Yeah.
A strict one, which they need.
Which they fucking need.
And women love it.
Like, when a guy has a shit together and he tells her, hey, I need you to do this, blah, blah, blah.
Women love to serve a man they actually admire, love, and respect.
But if you're a loser, then it's going to be issues.
But with older women, I can't I don't want to deal with that because a lot of times they're stuck in there.
No offense to you, but they're stuck in their ways.
Maybe they have their own career.
Maybe they're making their own money and their goals don't align with mine.
If your goals don't align with mine, then fuck you.
I'm not going to deal with you because I'm the man.
I'm the one that needs to perform.
You don't have to perform.
It's mandatory for the man to get shit done and be successful.
It's not mandatory for the woman to be successful.
So fuck your dreams.
My dreams matter more because if I dream big, we both win.
If you dream big, you're going to leave me.
That's how it goes.
When a woman surpasses her man, it's over.
It's done.
That's why you got these 100 plus women volunteering to clean up tiger shit for fucking Carole Baskins.
Because they got no fucking guidance.
They have no guidance.
They're like, okay, we'll come clean up tiger shit.
All these volunteer programs, PETA, all the fucking woke activism because they have no man to love and build.
When a woman has no man to love and build, she, by default, in American culture, just joins the fucking leftist fucking mafia.
So I just think that with the whole context of American relationships kind of falling apart, and it's like, I think a lot of single people in America can agree that dating is just a complete nightmare for the average person.
It is.
It's because America's clown world.
Right.
And a big reason because of that is because like women have been brainwashed into thinking like, oh, find a man, start a family, you know, support him.
This is from leftists?
Like find a man, start a family, like, you know, start something you can like love and appreciate into your old age.
No, they've swapped that out for consumerism.
Yeah, for leftist, woke ideologies, the feminists have ruined everything for women.
Like, when we were on the podcast the other day with fucking the fucking xenomorph queen, the fucking Placitentiary girl, she's saying like, I don't need a fucking man because I got a Birkin bag.
I'm like, okay, like, gonna go home and hold that Birkin bag at night as you cry yourself to sleep.
You know, like, it doesn't work like that.
Like, men and women, okay, so in America, men's standards are non-existent.
Women's standards are way too fucking high.
You know what I mean?
And then both of these people need to get their fucking head out of their ass and come together and get over this shit.
It's the same reason why the elites don't want fucking blacks and whites hanging out.
They don't want fucking Latinas and blacks or fucking whites and Latinas, whatever.
They want us all at each other's fucking throats because we can't collectively get together and be like, hey, wait a minute.
I think we're getting fucked by this taxation strategy.
I think we're getting completely fucked by this whole taxation thing.
And we're constantly at each other's throats because you guys don't get it because none of you guys live outside of America.
I live in Japan.
I live in Tokyo, Japan.
And you know what?
Men and women, they get along.
The backbone of their discussion is like, did you take the fucking, did you fucking vote for this one?
Or do you like black people?
Do you hate black people?
Whatever the fucking racial thing or anything along those lines.
That doesn't exist.
It's like two people wanting to come together, have a happy life.
It's that simple.
Families are prioritized.
Did you have something that you wanted to say?
No, that's what I was going to say is that I agree with that.
What I look for in a man is that someone that genuinely loves me, not someone that has to take care of me but wants to take care of me because I can take care of myself.
So when I look for a man, I'm literally looking for how he treats his mom, how he treats people around him, how big his heart is.
I'm looking for actual love.
I'm not looking for a provider.
So you want a man?
You don't need one.
Yes.
But here's the problem.
I want love.
Okay.
When you want something versus you need it, you're not going to do everything required to get it.
For example, I want to have some Chipotle right now.
I'd love to.
But I don't need it.
So therefore, I can go ahead and make my own food.
Yeah.
I won't lower my standards just to settle in a relationship.
That's what I'm trying to say.
When a woman doesn't need a man, she's not going to do what's required to keep that man because she always feels like I can go ahead and do it myself.
Yeah.
And here's the thing.
I have no problem with women that want to work and make money, be entrepreneurs, be successful.
But you've got to deal with the dark cloud that's going to come with that.
The dark cloud that's going to come with it is that you're always going to feel like you're self-sufficient.
A lot of guys that would have been great candidates for you don't qualify because they can't provide you the level of life that you have.
So there's a bunch of guys that would love you and be great.
But guess what?
They're invisible to you because you're successful.
So now you basically ostracize yourself from a majority of men And you only want a very specific small percentage of men that are at your level.
Here's the problem.
Those guys need to feel what?
Needed.
Not wanted.
Can we talk about that?
That's a big reason why Stephen Crowder fucking lashed out the way he did.
Because he didn't feel respect and love from his wife.
And then he was kind of like...
Beating a dagged horse.
Asking for it.
Guys, you ladies didn't really understand.
As a man, I can't maintain a relationship with Fresh.
I can't maintain a relationship with Iron if I'm disrespectful to these guys.
Respect is absolutely...
A mandatory.
And when you're dealing with a girl who's just like, man, this guy's kind of a fucking whatever, you know, we need the respect.
We need.
It's like how you guys need somebody who doesn't fucking work at, like, Starbucks and make $7.38 an hour.
Like, how you just, like, that's a hard no for all of you, whether you want to say so or not.
It's the same reason it's a hard no for us, like, if a girl doesn't respect us.
We need you to respect us.
And the more successful the man, the more he's going to demand it, and the less he's going to tolerate when it's not given to him.
So what I'm saying is that higher status men need to feel needed.
If a girl's like, oh, I just want you, she's not going to do everything required when she needs you.
If you need to breathe oxygen, you're going to do whatever's required.
You're going to throw people down.
You're going to do everything to get that oxygen.
But if you only want to breathe somewhat...
You're going to pick and choose, blah, blah, blah.
And you're not going to do everything required.
And guys that have money and status or whatever, there's a bunch of girls that need them that are going to do everything that they need.
So why is he going to pick a girl that only wants him?
That's my point.
No, I understand.
It's not about what you want.
It's about what are the girls that are competing with you for the very man that you want?
What are they willing to do?
That's where so many success women lose because they think...
I'm successful.
He's going to want me because I'm successful too.
I'm an entrepreneur.
We don't give a fuck about that.
We'll take the girl that works at Dairy Queen, no offense to y'all, any day if she treats us better and gives us more respect and acts like she needs us versus the entrepreneur that only wants us.
Honestly, I was going to say, what's funny to me is you in this situation, a lot of you on the panel, girls on other panels that I've seen, you guys try and tell and argue the point that You know what men in the category, like you're arguing with men in the category that are in what you want and telling them like, no, this is what they want.
When these are three multi-millionaire men telling you we would absolutely never accept this.
I didn't tell them what they want.
I'm telling them what I want and what I'm looking for.
We don't care!
So imagine the guy that you want.
I understand what you guys want.
Yes, he wants respect.
He wants dedication.
He wants to know that he's the leader.
And they get that if he's in that position.
So what you want is great.
But what does he really want?
They're telling you what men at that status want and they are men at that status.
And you're like, no, but.
And this happens on every single podcast.
She's right.
I'll give it to her.
She's right.
And that's the thing.
When guys are like...
No, this is what I want.
I'm like, nah, that's really not what you want.
Like, oh, okay.
When did I say that?
Not you, not you, not you.
She just goes back to what she wants.
What I'm arguing is that what if what you want doesn't necessarily coincide with what they want?
Well, you should probably change.
But the problem is that, what did I say before?
Successful women are stuck in their ways and they don't want to change.
But I'm not stuck in my ways.
I am malleable for sure.
You can't literally respond that that's not what I want every time.
No, because you're trying to say that I have to dedicate my entire life to basically doing and saying whatever a man wants just because he takes care of me.
Yes.
And I can understand that.
That's what men want.
And I will do that for the right man that is at my level or above.
But I won't do that for someone that is below me just to settle in a relationship.
That's what I'm saying.
It's very simple, guys.
Your attitude won't even present the opportunity to meet that guy that you're talking to.
This attitude right now is because we're having a group discussion, but this is not the attitude that I have when I'm on a date with a guy.
The dudes are far more simpier than you, Myron.
What were you going to say?
No, no, I was just saying, like, I think I understand her because she's older.
She's been through a lot.
So she knows, like, not every dickhead out there is worth submitting to.
So it's like a contextual submission based upon vetting.
But what I was saying, you literally just argued it back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you literally just argued it back right there.
My point that I was making at you was what you just argued back right there.
You just are saying, oh, I will submit for a man that's at my status or higher.
What we're saying is you are not going to find that.
It's a very low probability because men at that status do not want the argumentative Dominant woman.
But why do they want someone who's so young, who's so dependent on them?
But that's what I'm really not understanding here.
I'm not saying you don't.
Not providers, they want to take care of you.
They want a woman to shut up.
I've heard the complete opposite.
I've heard the complete opposite.
I've heard dudes that are like, no, I don't fucking want bitches that just want to fucking take me for my money and all this shit depend on me.
I'm hearing the complete opposite.
What I'm wondering is, I'm listening to you guys and you're saying that you would prefer to have a younger woman who maybe doesn't have her whole shit together.
Maybe she's not as argumentative or as you'd say.
Maybe she's not an entrepreneur.
She's not a businesswoman.
She's not this, that.
And so she's more dependent on you.
Meanwhile, I've seen the complete opposite.
I've heard a lot of motherfuckers be like, these bitches just want me for my money, they depend on me way too much, and so I'm wondering where you're coming from, because I've actually seen the complete opposite.
Who wants somebody that's just so dependent on you?
Who wants to answer this question that you just proposed?
Any of you, honestly.
Be a man and don't fucking make a choice.
Wait, which one?
Me, Fresh, or Myron, go.
Oh, you pussy.
What's the full context?
You seem to be a little more sensible than the other two.
Sorry.
Thank you so much.
Turning us against each other.
I'm sorry.
Okay, so with the full context of your question, please go.
Okay, my question is, why would you rather have a young, inexperienced, possibly naive and immature young woman who has not really accomplished anything?
Maybe she hasn't found her own way.
She hasn't made anything of herself just yet.
Why would you want that?
Over a woman who is older, wiser, more experienced, and more independent.
She's not going to take all your money.
She doesn't need you.
But she wants you.
And she's going to love the shit out of you.
The love is pure because she truly wants you.
She's not using you.
There's no chance that she's losing you.
So why do you want that younger kid who's just like, I don't fucking know what's going on.
I just need fucking I don't want a fucking sugar baby.
I'm not paying for anything.
You're both wrong.
Stop talking.
I'm going to explain to you right now.
Ladies, seriously.
You guys all suck with understanding men.
All of you.
I'm gonna just shed some light on you, okay?
She probably knows, other than the rest of you guys.
Excuse me.
You probably don't know either.
Just answer the question that was asked.
Alright, be quiet and I will.
The point I'm trying to make is this.
A guy values a woman's sexual purity above all things.
So if she's young, and she hasn't been ran through, Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
I got a winner here because we can build off of that.
Wait, that's it?
Yes.
Wait, wait, wait.
I know you guys have got your own trauma.
You want to fucking vomit all over the place.
Let me finish.
Then you guys can spurg out.
Okay?
So...
Guys want a woman with low body count first and foremost.
That's the ultimate flex.
Not how much you can throw it down on him fucking doggy style or how much you can fucking throw that ass back or your BBL or your fucking 1900 lip injections.
None of that shit fucking matters.
Are you a hoe or are you not a hoe?
And if you're not a hoe, guess what?
Gold tier status.
A guy will look at a girl and be like, so you're not a hoe?
We can make this work.
But everything else, which you compensate for saying, I'm a wise woman, all you're telling me is you're old and other dudes have fucked you.
That's how men's brains work.
I've had one main partner.
I was just about to say.
Sure, but you're an exception to the rule that men want in this world.
But we still don't want her, why?
Because she's argumentative and independent?
We still don't want her, right?
- 'Cause she's too independent.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Let me, let me address Pearl here.
Okay, so listen, okay?
Okay, ghetto pearly things.
Love your fucking tattoos.
- Hey, hey! - Guys, let me reiterate this for you girls that can't, I'm sorry you can't comprehend this.
We don't want to build something with a hoe.
No, no, no.
This is about being a hoe.
None of this is about being a hoe.
Let me say something.
I did like with, I mean, by my experience, and I can say it, and he's saying it's right.
Women, we want the guys being wanted, and guys need to be needed.
Yes.
That is a fact.
So we want to like, I want he be, I want he wants me.
They need to feel and they need, like we need them.
So as most successful, and I can see like studies and most successful the women are, more we feel like we don't need a man.
So I'm more humble, more like...
I cannot say, like you said, you want me to stay in my house and do nothing?
I stayed in my house for 12 years, and I love it.
I love to be in my house.
But in the fact, when I didn't feel I was getting back, when I was giving, my problems start, and that is another history.
But the fact, like, the guys need to be wanted...
No, needed, I'm sorry.
And I had that problem.
I guess I wanted him to be wanted.
And you see, I told you, I told you, listen, and chat, I told you, The one non-American girl, other than Mr.
B, have their tits out.
The one fucking non-American girl here gets it.
Because a guy will look at a woman and the number one thing he wants to do is like, is she young?
Is she not a hoe?
I can make this work.
But when the hoe shit starts coming into the picture, it fucks your head.
Can you honestly love and date a woman who's doing hoe shit on Instagram?
Myron Fresh?
Can you honestly commit to that woman with the peace of mind running the multi-million dollar industry you're doing?
I'll smash, but I won't like...
Smash, for sure.
Nobody said that you had to shoot.
She's doing ho shit.
Nobody's saying that you've got to settle down with a ho, man.
No, no, no.
You asked the question of what guys are looking for.
You're contextualizing like, oh, I'm wise and I'm X. When you tell you're wise, you're like, okay, you just fucked a bunch of guys you fucking regret.
Okay, then let me ask you something.
Why are there literal dudes out there who will literally dump a girl because she, like, because she is too dependent on them?
If you're saying that this is what guys want, they need to be needed, da-da-da, then why are there dudes who will literally be like, I don't fuck it, like, you're way too dependent on them.
You're creating contextual-based data with nothing.
No, it's like, this is for my legitimate, my actual experience in real life.
That's It's anecdotal evidence, which means it's your evidence from your perspective, and that falls into confirmation bias.
So it doesn't work like that.
The majority of women are leaving relationships.
I haven't seen what you're talking about, I guess.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's make it simple.
How many times have...
Okay, ladies on the panel, have you ever been broken up by with a man?
Only one of you.
Two.
Yeah, a guy initiated the breakup with you.
Yeah, I got dumped.
Somebody dumped the shit out of me.
You've been dumped and you've been dumped?
So only two girls on the panel.
Okay.
How many of you, though?
And you've only been dumped once, right?
Me?
Yeah.
Twice?
Three times.
Three times.
What about you?
How many times have you been dumped?
Probably, like, twice.
Twice.
Okay.
Now, how many times have you dumped a guy?
Triple that?
Quadruple that?
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
How many times have you dumped a guy?
I don't even know.
Okay, so that proves my point.
Even the girls that have been dumped by kind of high standards still dump the guy way more.
And all the other girls here, clearly you've never been dumped, so that means you dumped the guy.
So, going back to what I'm saying right now with your, because you're trying to make the argument, oh, guys break up with girls because they depend on them too much.
Is that probable?
Probably not.
No, no, no.
The point that I was making was that you're saying that men need to be needed, right?
That's what you're saying, right?
That men need to be needed and that's how they feel respected and loved in relationship.
That's how they want to be in a relationship.
I've seen the exact opposite in so many scenarios.
That's the only point that I'm making from my own experience.
Okay, but Here's the thing.
Your own experience isn't necessarily reflective of how the world really works a lot of the times because by just what I did now, right, with small sample size, hey, how many of you guys have been broken up with?
Very few of you.
And even the girls I have been broken up with, you broke up with way more guys.
So your example of, well, I've seen guys get broken up with because they're tired of girls, but depending on them, eh, So even if they haven't been dumped, I mean, they know guys who don't want to have to take care of a girl.
There's a lot of dudes out there who are totally against having to take care of a woman.
There's a lot of them.
And they're very public about it.
Those are the men that women don't find attractive.
Congratulations.
So you're just saying that they're just the losers of the...
I'm not saying they're losers, but those are the men that women typically do not find attractive.
Alright.
It's so unattractive.
Could you imagine going to sit down at a date and the bill comes?
You wanted it.
Let me ask you this.
He's more sensible.
What makes us less sensible?
What was the question?
You asked him the question in particular because you said he was more sensible.
Can you tell us why we're less sensible?
You guys seem just a little bit more hell-bent against women, I guess.
Yeah, you guys are more like men of the prize type.
Just a really quick example was the nightclub or bar thing.
You're saying that a woman should absolutely be in the house.
A man can go out and do whatever he wants, but she can absolutely not go out and have the opposite roles.
Me and my relationship, There's some nights that I don't want to go out, but my boyfriend does.
And so he'll go out and he'll have a great time.
And because I trust him, I feel like it all comes down to trust and respect.
Because I trust him, I can sleep, rest my head at night because I know he's out there, he's having a good time, and I know that he's not betraying me.
And the same is true for me.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let's go on to our dream world.
You said you'd sleep well at night, him going to the club, whatever.
Would you sleep as well at night if you knew that there were women that were way hotter than you offering him free alcohol, that wanted to sleep with him, that were offering him trips to the Maldives and Dubai, etc.?
Would you be as comfortable and sleep as tight?
No, I was going to address that.
Yeah, but would you sleep as tight?
Yeah, because I trust him.
Then it really comes down to trust.
That's it.
Really?
It really comes down to trust.
Would it be fair to say that you would just trust him to be a man and he would probably fuck those other girls or take one of those opportunities, especially hundreds of women that were more attractive than you had gave him opportunities that he would not be able to get with you?
No, no.
Have you ever heard the phrase- It really comes down to trust, and that's what a lot of people don't know.
A lot of people don't want to trust.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Have you ever heard the phrase that men are typically only as faithful as their options?
Sure.
Okay, so knowing that, do you really think that your guy would be faithful to you if he had better chicks than you offering in the world, and he was going to a nightclub that had this in abundance?
Would you really sleep well at night?
I don't entertain hypotheticals like that.
That's a very hypothetical question.
No, but this hypothetical is extremely important because you're trying to go ahead and say, him going to the club is the same as you going to the club.
You're trying to conflate the two as if it's the same, and I'm arguing it's not.
It really is.
But it's a hypothetical question because, let's face it, men are not offered the same options that women are.
You said so yourself.
Thank you for proving my point.
That's why you can sleep well at night.
Stop, stop.
That's why you can sleep well at night.
That's my fucking point.
What's the problem there?
What's the problem there?
It's a reality.
Because your going to the club is not the same.
You're going to go to the club, right?
What'd you do?
You rated yourself like a...
Ten.
Like a six, seven.
No, she rated herself...
Against Elizabeth Olsen.
Back to who?
Elizabeth Olsen.
Jim Carrey.
Wait, Elizabeth Olsen?
God.
Oh yeah, you gave yourself a six compared to her.
You do realize that you go to the club as the six.
You're going to have a bunch of dudes swarming you, hitting on you, giving you crazy opportunities, etc.
I guarantee you, your guy's not going to sleep as well at night.
But he does.
But he does.
I'm a beautiful woman.
I go out with my girlfriends and I have a great time.
And that's what?
I'm curving these motherfuckers all night long.
Okay, look.
Hold on, hold on.
We honestly have a really great relationship.
They both trust each other.
You said you gave good advice earlier, right?
100%.
She said she gave good advice earlier.
She gave a terrible advice all night.
She's been the truth right now.
Hold on.
I know you're a lawyer and stuff.
No, no, no.
He cheated once before.
And when he did, he...
Is he the only one that can finish this?
Yes, it's his show.
It's not your show.
Yeah, facts.
Because you're interrupting to try to add it.
So you prove my point even more.
Men are only faithfuls or options.
So he cheated on her?
No, he did not cheat on her.
He cheated on a previous wife.
And when he did that, he realized the mistake that he made.
And he said he would never do that again.
And he has proven that.
Translation, I will never do it again.
I get caught!
- No, no! - No! - That's it!
- Fuck it!
- No! - No! - You guys have some trust too.
- Yeah, literally.
- No, listen, trust that.
- Maybe you're projecting how your values and how you-- - I can trust a man to be a man and I can trust a woman to be a woman.
So therefore, I must go ahead and adapt my strategy based on how the genders move.
And I guess I have a very unique, wonderful man.
I must have a very unique, wonderful man because I know that this is not his thought process.
This is why modern women fail.
This is why you fail.
Because what Sarah was saying earlier.
Who's failing?
You.
We're talking.
We're telling you, like, listen, we're the fucking dogs.
Like, we are the dudes.
We're trying to tell you transparently, like, well, it's not like that for me, nigga!
Honestly, I don't understand how men are the prize where if you put 50 men on an island in 100 years, the island will be deserted.
You put 25 men and 25 women on an island, that island will thrive.
So I don't understand how men are the prize when you need us to have your children.
The thing that you're so worried about having.
50 women and one man?
25 men and 25 women.
Oh, notice how you have to go ahead and make it 50-50 when you want to talk about it.
And also, why are men surprised when you're essentially saying that men are okay and you trust 50 men?
40 men and 10 women, there's still going to be people there.
If we're going to have this conversation, it's got to be one mic at a time.
So number one, so you mentioned the thing about the island and then you said your guy going out is not the same like oh Yeah, what I was saying was...
I said it all comes down to trust.
No, no, but here's the thing.
I guarantee you, because you're trying to argue, my guy is totally cool with me going out, blah, blah, blah.
I guarantee you, if I brought him to a room by himself and I said, hey, listen, bro, you got two options.
Your girl can go to the club or she can stay at home with you.
You know what he's going to pick 99% of the time?
Of course he wants me to say he loves me.
He's obsessed with me.
Okay, so is it really that he's comfortable with you going to the club or he doesn't have a choice?
No, he's comfortable.
He's comfortable that he really is.
He's cool to hang out with the dogs and let me go hang out with my girls.
Why is it that when I ask him then, without you being involved or anyone else being involved, I ask him, hey, would you prefer your girl to be home or go to the club?
He says he'd prefer to be home.
Because he wants me to hang out with them, but he's also okay if I make my own choices and say, hey, baby, I'm going to go hang out with my girls.
No.
Here's the cohort reality.
He doesn't have the value to tell you what he really wants to tell you.
He absolutely does.
Because when a woman really respects and admires a man, etc., everybody else is virtually invisible to her.
She doesn't need to be in the club.
She doesn't need to be consuming alcohol.
No, bro, that's unhealthy.
She is completely dependent.
She is codependent at its finest.
I argue that it's actually unhealthy for you to go to the club, hang out with a bunch of dudes, drink alcohol with dudes that are trying to sleep with you.
Wait, wait, wait!
Who said I was drinking alcohol with dudes that are trying to sleep with me?
I curve motherfuckers and I'm hanging out with my girls.
But you're drinking alcohol and you're at a club, correct?
No, no, no.
I don't even go to clubs, first of all.
I go to bars or restaurants.
I'm not a club girl.
All I'm saying is I don't think it's...
My main point was I don't think it's so cut and dry.
I don't think it's as brutal as you make it sound.
And I think that...
I really just, I don't think that it's what you say.
I think a lot of relationships are a lot different than that.
You self-admitted that your man would prefer you to not be in the club, yet you go to the club anyway.
You self-admitted this.
No, it's not about going to the club.
He's like, okay, babe, have a great night.
Have fun, baby!
He says that because he knows if he tells her, hey, look, I don't really like that you're going to the club.
I don't really like this.
He's going to get hit with the, you're not sensible, or this is insecure.
No, we have a kind of relationship where he will tell me if he wants me to stay in.
And guess what?
If he tells me I want to stay in, Christy, what do I do?
You stay in.
I'll stay in.
But honestly, they both like to have their own space, which is healthy.
It's healthy to have time apart, and we trust each other.
Nothing's going on.
I have a question.
Shoot.
So wait a minute.
Both you and your boyfriend go to the club without each other?
They don't go to clubs.
We don't go to clubs, first of all.
Well, bars, whatever.
They go hang out with friends.
Hang out with friends.
Let's put it that way.
Okay, stop, stop, stop with the fucking, like, hyper explanation.
Do you go out and drink alcohol with other people, including men, without your boyfriend present?
Yes or no?
Yes.
Does your boyfriend do the same thing?
Yes.
You guys are fucked.
Thankfully, your opinion doesn't actually matter at the end of the day.
It does not.
What do I know?
I've argued my case.
I know you guys are going to keep...
It's not appropriate for women to have a man to be out drinking with other men.
It's inappropriate behavior.
It's single behavior.
Literally, I never said I was drinking with other men once again.
I said with my girls.
Just admit it to him.
She said with friends.
I said with friends.
- Yes, with friends.
- That are also males?
- Yes, she has male friends that she trusts.
- Oh, really?
They aren't trying to fuck.
- They aren't trying to fuck because they're old.
- Yeah, they're not trying to fuck.
- And listen, listen to that time out.
Hold on, relax, girl.
- This is a perfect example of women.
You said you gave good advice.
That's a lie.
You said before for her, it's still possible for her to find a high value guy.
No, it's not.
It's possible, but not probable.
She's not going to find that level of man again at 32 years old.
It's not going to happen.
And then here, you're condoning Behavior that I told you before is not conducive to a good long-term relationship.
Why are we parking our Lambo in the ghetto?
Why are we parking our Lambo in the fucking ghetto?
Why are you taking Lamborghini, that is you, as a beautiful young white woman, going up there?
You're wise, you're intelligent, you get all this shit.
Why are you parking your Lambo in the ghetto and letting people attempt to fucking break into it and steal you?
I think you guys have a really fucked up picture of what life is like.
You don't get men.
I mean, I must not, I think you guys are really, you must have some serious trust issues.
I think you guys are painting a really weird, bizarre picture that I'm not getting.
You don't get it.
You don't understand, man, because we are plagued with our desire to get sex.
We wake up, we're like, time to get sex.
And yet you guys are the price when all you want to do is fuck.
Listen, less men are the price.
And you were saying earlier, you were like, oh, I trust a man to be a man at the end of the day.
You don't get it.
Y'all are the price.
Hold on.
What was the example I just gave you guys literally, what, like maybe 45 minutes to an hour ago where you have the trust one baby and then you got the self-made millionaire?
Self-made millionaire has more value and is the prize because he has to work for it.
Women do not have to work for it, so men are the prize because it's much harder to be attractive as a man than it is as a woman.
Every single one of you can walk into a club and get a guy to buy you drinks, have a guy take you on an expensive date, etc.
I can't do that unless I become the guy that's willing to go on the expensive date.
That's the difference.
I'm not going to get a slingshot for free working at fucking Dairy Queen.
They can, though, because women have inherent value.
So if you're going to sit there and say, women are the price, that's fine.
Are you mad at women because, unfortunately, it's easier to be a woman.
Our life as man is awesome because we're fucking great.
I'm not mad at you.
I will grant you that.
I won't even deny that.
Here's the thing.
I'm stating facts, and your response is to say that I'm mad by stating facts.
Life is easier for women.
I'm just saying you guys seem incredibly bothered by the fact that life is easier for women.
We can't control that.
If life is easier for you, then I need to put barriers and parameters to keep you from doing things that are going to fuck up the relationship because you have so many opportunities.
You understand?
I hear where you're coming from.
Look, women have a lot of power and with great power comes great responsibility.
A lot of the times that responsibility needs to come from a man because women a lot of times when they have the power do things that fuck themselves up long term.
I have all I'm going to use it to my benefit.
I'm going to be liberated.
What do they do?
Fuck a bunch of dudes, date indiscriminately, do whatever the fuck they want to do, chase a career in education, then they're 32, 33 years old later down the road and figure out, fuck, I'm not able to command and get the guy That I want him from the first place and get this guy to take me seriously.
So what I'm saying is that as the man, it's your job to come in as the leader and guide the woman to a fruitful relationship because the things that women come programmed with in modern day society a lot of times are not conducive to a good long term relationship.
There's no reason for a woman to be at a club or a bar or any type of situation where there's an opposite gender there.
Looking to fuck when she has a man at home.
That makes no sense to me.
Why do you think there's all these fucking fat women on all the commercials?
You cannot say someone is mad at something when they state a fact.
If I say 1 plus 1 is 2, does that mean that I'm mad that 1 plus 1 equals 2?
What I was saying was that I can go out and I'm not getting chased by dicks left and right.
I don't know what you think this is.
You can get chased by dicks You don't have to go to a club.
There's people.
And I have the capability.
So, five years and you're not engaged to your man?
And that's by my choice.
He gave you the ring and you said no?
No, we've talked about it and I always said that I would be with somebody for at least eight years before I got engaged.
Ask yourself why the fuck your man didn't He wanted to and I told him not to.
You know what's scary?
You emasculated that bad.
You know what's scary?
Her man is following her program.
Oh, see?
So he already lost.
So he already lost, bro.
And then, you know what's funny about this, right?
This whole topic right now, if the man is of high value to that woman, whatever may be an option where, like, for example, she might get caught up or, like, lose him, she won't even do it, bro.
Facts.
So this whole conversation is mute, bro, because at this point, if the man is of value, she won't do this dumb shit.
Yep.
She won't do it.
Well, it proves my point before.
He's scared to lose you, which is why he can't put boundaries on.
Exactly.
Because he already tried to propose to you when you told him it's on my timeline.
Yeah.
Which already tells me that you have the leverage in the relationship.
He values you more than you value him, which is why he's in a predicament now where he has to concede and let you go out when you want.
But like I said before, by your own admission, have I locked him up in a room and I said, hey, listen, bro, tell me the truth.
Presumptive.
Presumptive and incorrect.
Yes.
It's not presumption because you...
No, it is.
Friends who respect each other and trust each other.
These aren't true statements.
He tried to marry you.
It's a lot deeper than that.
You know what I mean?
It's not so cut and dry.
He's trying to give you his ultimate power, which is commitment, and you refused it.
That tells me quite effectively that you have to leverage in a relationship.
It takes nearly a decade to really know somebody.
I'm just trying to not make a mistake.
Someone who was in a relationship with someone for eight years and didn't find out who they really were for eight years, it does take a long time.
Were you the one that gave her that advice to wait and No, man, I came with that advice before she even knew me.
My mom told me that shit.
How old are you?
And how old have you been dating this guy?
Five years.
And so, like, what are you putting off?
Like, when you're going to be younger and hotter?
No, no, no.
I genuinely believe that you need to see somebody in every single state, every single emotion, every single state, when they're broke, when they're sick, when they're depressed, when they're fucking traumatized.
You sound like you're trying to, like, fucking...
No, I'm trying to only be married once.
I'm only trying to be married once.
That's what I'm trying to do.
Fair play.
But at the same time, it sounds like you're leading the relationship.
100% wears a pants relationship.
That's the biggest commitment you can make to somebody and you want to be damn 100,000% sure before you make it.
It's too many people getting married within a year or two knowing each other.
And divorcing a year later.
I agree.
Listen, I totally...
I totally understand from your perspective that you do not...
I think we do need to give her some merit because she doesn't want to get in a divorce.
But at the same time, your man is a gigantic pussy for letting you, like, lead the fucking way.
I would say respectful.
My girl would never...
First of all, my girl would never be on the Fresh and Fit podcast.
Ever!
And neither would yours, Myron, and neither would yours.
She wouldn't be out here talking some shit without you being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, bitch, where are you going?
Where are you going?
Where are you going?
I actually agree.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
She's going to be out there running around talking some shit about me.
If anything, I'm going to be talking some shit about her.
What shit did I talk about him?
I've done nothing but say good things about him.
You have just humiliated your man.
You don't get it.
To your standards, maybe.
Ask the chat.
Ask the chat.
I don't know if you understand this, but you hold the leverage in the relationship, you dictate the terms of the relationship, and you're in the leadership role of the relationship.
Then why is he also able to call the shots, and I respect the shot of that, too.
It's a give and take.
It's a balance.
Food?
That man can tell me to stay in the house any night of the weekend.
I will respect it.
How many fucking times have I called you and been like, yo, come pick me up and let's get fucked up.
And he's like, uh-uh.
He's like, no fucking way.
And you're like, okay, bye, Christy.
And I'm like, never mind, Christy.
Don't come and get me, girl, because my man wants me to stay in.
It's a give and take.
We respect each other.
You can fool your friend.
I'll get a turn.
We respect the fuck out of each other.
When I see a girl speak about her man in a certain way, and I know certain things, a woman is a spinning image of her man and his masculinity.
The fact that you are willing to take a bet and say, I'm not ready to commit right now, that tells me that you know in the back of your mind.
We are committed.
We are absolutely committed.
You have him wrapped around your finger, which is why you can play this game and say, I'm not ready yet.
He's giving you his biggest power, commitment in a marriage, and you're saying, I'm not ready now.
The reason why is because you don't know if he is worth it.
That's the reality.
That's why you're saying, oh, I need to know this, this, this translation.
He's not the guy, right, that I would ideally want, so let me see if he could qualify to me for a longer period of time until I'm satisfied.
Versus if you had the right guy, you wouldn't be waiting around because you don't know if you'd stick around.
That's the truth, and every girl here knows that.
No.
But you're just lying to yourself.
That's why you're saying this.
No, there's a lot of dudes that get married and have a baby and then leave.
It's a lot of dudes that get married and cheat.
I'm not trying to be one of these bitches that are left behind.
Women initiate an overwhelming amount of the breakups and the divorces.
You can see here at the table, you even yourself, you've been broken up three times, right?
But you've still broken up with guys far more than they've broken up with you.
So women are the ones that would leave a relationship.
Is it okay to take marriage seriously?
Is it okay with everybody if you take marriage seriously?
You're taking it seriously with a guy that you don't like that much.
You know, that's the truth.
So, three times, guys left her.
No offense to you, but that's a red flag.
And then thirdly, this guy that you're talking to right now, like you said earlier, if he was the man that you actually wanted to be with, you wouldn't even wait for him.
You wouldn't make him wait.
No way at all!
I think it's silly to get married too soon.
I do.
Myron, can I try?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Don't be mad at me, Myron.
No, I want to know about you in regards to this guy, right?
So it seems that you're leading everything.
Leading?
Yeah, it seems like you're the one leading and pacing everything, right?
So you do have to understand that the highest value action a man can do to a woman is say like, hey, you know, will you be my wife?
I think that would be like the highest.
Would we agree or disagree on that?
I think marriage when done right is a fucking beautiful thing.
So I agree.
Do you think the highest value action a man can do is like China?
Yes or no?
Star Wars?
Yeah.
Serbia?
Yeah.
Dog girl?
Sorry.
You?
Well, asking a woman to marry is like the highest value thing you could do.
Oh yeah, yeah, obviously.
Yeah.
You?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Pearl?
Pearl.
Sure, sure.
Sure.
Sarah?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so if you're like, so you want to marry me, huh?
Not yet, you gigantic pussy.
How is that supposed to make the guy feel?
Honestly, I think it means even more if they respect the fact that you really want to wait to make sure that you two are really genuinely going to get through this crazy thing called life.
Alright, let's ask the most important question.
Shit, we're not going anywhere.
What's the rush?
Because you're getting older.
Let me ask you a question.
Seriously, though.
Who hurt you?
No, the real question is, who didn't?
I think that list is longer than guys who did hurt you.
No, no, who made you like this?
Like, why are you so, like, combative, defensive, like, oh, I gotta fucking, I gotta cross every T, dot every I. Why are you like that?
Oh, I've seen that guy.
Go ahead.
Mom.
I'll just say mom.
Oh, one of the three times she got broken up with.
I mean, again...
Yeah, that totally fucked me up, man.
I mean...
Emotional damage!
Men don't typically break up with women.
So if a girl gets broken up with by a man...
Three times?
Oh, I was a fucking...
I'll grant you, I was a fucking disaster.
I was a fucking disaster.
There you go.
Three times, bro?
Yeah.
Come on, man.
I was young.
I was a fucking nightmare.
And I can admit that.
Okay, so then that doesn't refute what I said, that you did some shit that was probably fucked up, which is why they broke up with you.
Please, that was the least of my fucking drama.
Okay, well, either way, the point I'm trying to make here, it's very simple.
You run that relationship, and that's fine.
But when a woman runs a relationship, she typically runs it into the ground.
That's what I figured out.
I respect your opinion on that for sure, but I know that that's not going to happen.
It's not the case with your relationship.
Women are not capable leaders in a relationship with a man.
It never works.
I mean, speak for yourself.
She's not the leader in a relationship.
I don't really say that there is a leader.
Oh yeah, for sure, but I'm saying as someone who's on the outside of their relationship, I know that he's the leader.
But you gotta admit though, the main foundation of being married to your partner, if he can't even control that, where's the control?
Honestly, he controls pretty much everything, but he has a lot of respect for her.
That's the foundation.
Why does it all come down to his desire to propose?
I mean, when you really think about a marriage as like a contract on paper, we already have that.
That's his biggest superpower and he declined it, which effectively means you have leverage in a relationship.
I did not decline anything.
What'd you say?
Can we just postpone this, honey?
We had a mature conversation.
And we were like, hey, you know what?
What's the rush?
If we're going to be together further, there's no rush.
We're already committed.
We don't need a piece of paper to tell us we're committed.
No, you don't.
Because you're still holding out for something better.
Because let me tell you something.
He's in a rush, man.
He's divorced.
He's not trying to rush back into that shit.
Perfect.
We are both on the same page.
Let me just tell you about it.
When you're dating a woman who's like, head over here, head over heels in love with you.
She's just waiting for you to be like, hey.
And that was me for probably the first two years, just on cloud nine.
I would even say even the past year.
Even the past year, I've been on my...
Go ahead and cut me off.
Fuck me.
Fuck my conversation.
- I recognize that it's deeper than that.
I recognize it's a lot deeper than that.
I don't want to be divorced. - And now she's switching it up after five, like, nah, son, son's off.
- No bro, I recognize, I was a kid.
I was a fucking 21-year-old kid at the time.
Now I recognize it's a lot deeper than that.
Forever's a long time.
You really want to...
Make sure they're making the right choice.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
He made the wrong choice the first time around.
We gave you enough of the knowledge.
She cut this dude off!
She's like, nah, you fucking homo.
I don't want to fucking marry you.
Why else would you be like, hmm, I want to wait until next year when I'm older and my eggs are more fucking dry and I have more bullshit to deal with.
Why would you delay Starting a family and be with the guys.
How about this?
What if your guy decided, I don't want to have sex with you anymore?
How would that make you feel?
Our relationship would be over because we're both like nymphomaniacs.
So you're a nymphomaniac that goes to the club.
So when you can't give your most prized commodity your sexuality, it's the end of the relationship.
But if he tries to give you his most prized commodity, you...
Oh, he should stay with me anyway.
Alright, first of all, we already have commitment.
His most prized commodity is not marriage.
So that becomes...
That is a man's ultimate...
What's his commitment?
A divorced man?
No, no, no.
Commitment is just...
Ladies, ladies, ladies.
Am I really about to just define commitment?
No, no.
Let me make this very simple.
Men want sex.
Women want commitment.
Okay?
Marriage is the highest form of commitment.
Okay?
The guy, right?
You are the gatekeeper of sex.
He is the gatekeeper of a relationship slash marriage.
You just effectively said now, if he said, I don't want to have sex anymore, you would leave him.
So your ultimate prize, he no longer wants it, you're like, ah, I'm not useful anymore.
Bro, if he says he doesn't want sex anymore, he's leaving me.
Exactly.
I was like, every man mostly wants sex.
If he says he doesn't want to have sex anymore, we have a serious problem and it's not about me.
He's leaving me.
Look, look, look.
Do you not...
Do you not see where I'm going here with this analogy?
No, I don't, actually.
Because you're not fucking listening.
That's the problem.
What I'm saying is that, and I need you guys to pay attention to this, okay?
Men control relationships.
Women control sex.
I asked you.
If he said, I don't want to have sex with you anymore, would you be with him?
You said no.
So your main commodity, if you're not giving it, you're breaking up the relationship.
Rightfully so.
Fantastic.
But why is it that he gives you his ultimate commodity?
What?
A relationship?
A marriage?
You're like, nah, I don't want it.
But he stays there.
Something's off.
Something's off.
I want to know, like, why do you presume, because I understand what you said about me, about no sex, no relationship, 100%.
That's a very important part of a relationship.
But why do you presume that his biggest commodity is marriage?
Because that is a man's ultimate commodity.
Not everyone is obsessed with marriage.
Not every man.
No, but the majority of people that are obsessed with marriage...
The majority of people that are fucking obsessed with marriage...
It's women.
Let's just put that nail...
And we both happen to be women that are obsessed with it.
And I happen to think that there is a lot more to life than just one of them.
Like the ultimate confession of love.
Like, baby, I want to fucking be with you.
Look, look, look.
I don't know if you live in reality or on planet Earth, but the reality is...
I don't know.
I take a lot of mushrooms, so that's a good question.
Okay, well, let me bring you back to reality here.
When a girl is a little girl, she dreams of walking down an aisle in a white dress.
I did not.
That is so deeply ingrained in our society.
Can you stop interrupting?
Can you stop interrupting?
Just because you guys don't believe it doesn't mean that it isn't going on in society.
Women in general dream of the day that they walk down the aisle in a white dress with their father and a man waiting at the end that's going to love them for the rest of their life.
Men, on the other hand, they dream of playboy whacking off, looking at porn.
Okay?
No guy dreams of, I can't wait until I put on this fucking tux and walk down the aisle and get married.
So a man, the reason why is because men want sex, women want commitment.
That's what we dream of.
So, for you to say, oh, that's not true, it is true.
In general.
You're definitely talking about societal norms.
You're talking about societal norms.
Can you agree that not everybody fits inside those norms?
Well, let's just talk about societal...
Not every little girl dreams of a big white wedding.
I certainly don't.
You didn't dream of a big white wedding?
No.
So why would have you married him two years in?
What?
What did you say?
He said earlier.
The societal norm right now is the 78% divorce rate.
Exactly.
So why even get married if you're going to get divorced in four or five years and they're going to leave you with two kids?
Why not just enjoy your time together, build what you have, and then when the relationship's up, because men ultimately want something new and fresher and younger, why even commit to get divorced to do it again with multiple people?
Stop, stop, stop.
Guys don't want something newer, fresher, and younger.
Maybe you got left for something that was newer, fresher, and younger.
I've never been left.
But what I'm trying to tell you is that when a woman checks every fucking box, the guy will do whatever it takes to keep that woman around.
So you're saying that men don't want fresher and newer, but then you're talking about how men are chasing out the youngest ones.
How do I know that my boyfriend in two years...
Stop, stop, stop.
So I'm going to add some clarity to your female delusion.
Okay?
Be quiet.
Okay, when a guy is looking at a potential sample size of women that can come into his kingdom and help him build, he's like, all right, all the old bitches go to the back and all the fucking young bitches come to front.
And they want to deal with the young candidates.
Exactly.
Because biologically speaking, we don't want fucking retarded babies.
Like, if you just really want to TLDR it, that's the bottom line.
We want a young girl who's gonna be fucking down for our system who's like, well, I dated this NBA player and he wasn't fucking, you know, invested in real estate like you.
It's like, okay, great.
That guy left you.
So I'm like, do you want to go chase that guy?
Or do you want to fucking build with me?
Or do you want to be insufferable and on your own, on the side?
And that's the biggest thing.
So, with you girls, you have to understand, the reason we want young girls is because it's just less of a fucking headache.
Less of like, well, my ex did this!
Because really, the reality is...
Older women, they typically bring a lot of trauma to the relationship.
Can I say something?
Do you know what else is less of a headache?
Let Miss Miss Go speak first, and then we'll go you, and then we'll go you.
I don't know if it's cultural, but for me, my perspective, like, you're living with your boyfriend, your man, and...
It's not nothing personal.
It's in general.
And you think a paper is going to change everything?
I don't think so.
That is real love.
It doesn't change a damn thing.
For me, it's different.
You know, like, I'm from Mexico.
I was born and raised there.
So I don't know.
I never stay in my boy's house.
Stuff like that.
So...
For me, it was like my dream.
You know, marriage, like a family, have kids together, goals, life, perspective change.
But I don't see how people say, like, I don't want to marriage because of the paper, but I really have, like, a dynamic as a wife, husband, marriage, same house.
How do you think the paper is going to change?
The paper changes.
100%.
It changes for the women.
It changes for the women.
They're like, okay, I gotta let up on this fucking dude now.
It's just the title on paper for the government, but if you're already in a committed relationship and living together, getting married and signing that paper doesn't change anything.
You're already basically doing the same thing.
It's just that now you have rings and you have a piece of paper.
In my life, in my culture, call me old-fashioned, call me old people, I couldn't leave my mom's house if it wasn't marriage.
I couldn't come to the States if I wasn't Call it ring, call it paper.
I couldn't do a life with a man if I was.
I came from a different world.
Do you make more money than your guy, by the way, or do you guys make equal?
No, he makes more.
He makes way more.
How much more?
Give us some numbers here.
Probably three or four times as much as me.
Above 500k?
No.
How much fucking money do you think I'd make, man?
How much money do you think I made?
I have a question for the guys.
Or actually, I have a question for everybody.
I just wanted to refute your thing before because you said something about...
Because you mentioned if you had 50 men on an aisle and one woman, it's going to be a problem?
Like I was saying, if you put 50...
Because you said women are the price?
Yeah.
And I'm arguing that it's actually men that are the price?
Yes.
Okay.
Have you seen, like, this, like, survivor episode?
No, because here's the thing, if you got 50 men and one woman, yeah, we're not- No, no, no, 50 men on an island.
On one woman.
No, no women.
No women.
50 men on an island.
Alright.
Put them there for 100 years, in 100 years, the island's completely empty.
No, you'll have a society.
You'll have buildings and shit.
You'll definitely- men build.
But they're dead.
There will be nothing but buildings.
All the men will be dead.
They'll die.
That's true.
You're right.
But here's the thing.
Men create society.
Women also create society as well.
What society have a woman created?
What do you mean?
There's women workers out there doing the same jobs as men now.
Do you now pass construction sites and see female workers on construction sites?
And every time I do, I say like, 4,000 men construction workers compared to 20 women.
There's maybe one woman doing the flag wave on the side of the road.
A woman out there like, hey, I made sandwiches for you guys.
Now, if we're going to have a conversation, we've got to operate in reality here.
Men absolutely control all the jobs that create infrastructure, all the modern conveniences that you enjoy.
Light, power, water, etc.
That's all run by men, not women.
Women do not contribute to society from an infrastructural standpoint.
So you're saying that if women could not do that and they're saying there's never been islands of women where there's just been a lot of women?
Name one matriarchy that stood the test of time.
Just one.
Just one.
Matriarchy.
I can't off the top of my head.
That's my point.
There's none.
There's none because women don't create society.
The average woman in America doesn't even know about the power lineman crisis right now.
Do you guys know about the power lineman crisis?
Explain it.
So the men who climb up on these fucking poles to like go and like, you know, route all the electricity, the guys that are doing right now are pretty old.
They're in like 50s and 40s.
And the next generation that's coming, they don't have the replacements.
Mm-hmm.
So, like, in America, our fucking power grid is at risk right now because you got all these pussies that don't want to fucking get up there and do the work.
Nobody's going into the trades.
And women don't want to do it either because they all want to be, like, white-collar, I'm a fucking boss, babe.
Like, here I am.
I'm a product manager of fucking Meta.
Like, here I am, like, eating food for 17 hours on my TikTok.
You know what I'm talking about?
Like, they just don't...
They're not doing the work.
In other words, women don't go into jobs that create infrastructure.
Yeah.
What you're saying about...
They do, which is not normally.
They don't.
They don't.
If 90 plus percent of the jobs that are infrastructure...
Oh, I agree with that.
But there are women there, so you can't say there aren't women there.
You cannot make an argument for the minority.
You know what?
How about this?
Let's say we ran society on the women that are in these infrastructure jobs, the world will collapse within a day.
Less than 1%, right, Myron?
Yeah, there's just literally...
How many women here at the table can swap out a toilet?
I can build a whole house by myself.
You can swap out a toilet with a wax ring and everything?
I used to do that.
I used to.
When I first started my Airbnb, I go do the cleaning myself.
Okay, so there's one, and then who else can swap out?
She's Chinese, but I mean, she makes a shit too.
Yeah, I'm an immigrant.
We'll give it to one, two, and three.
So out of the Americans, two of them are not American.
You're the only American that can swap out a toilet.
And you've got to remember, just because you can do it doesn't mean a majority of women can do it.
Just because you're willing to do it doesn't mean a majority of women will do it.
The majority of women don't like to do hard manual labor jobs.
I agree.
So it's men that create society, not women.
So the reason why I say men are the prize is because you wouldn't have all the things that you love and enjoy if it weren't for men.
Men create resources.
Women extract resources.
But if it weren't for women, you wouldn't be here.
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Nobody's arguing that.
You're talking about men are the prize.
Please let me finish.
You're saying men are the prize because you guys create society.
There would be nothing for you to create if we did not bring you into this world.
You guys couldn't do anything if you weren't here.
So women are the prize.
Guys, let me fucking take this shit.
Women need men to survive.
Men need women to propagate a society.
They're two different things.
Women don't need men to survive.
You'd be able to hunt the animals and go ahead and manipulate the world with your own physical bare hands.
Yes, I can do everything that a man can do.
We're not talking about you.
I'm talking about women.
If you were with a hundred other women on a fucking island, would you be able to create the infrastructure and the society that you enjoy today?
The answer is fucking no.
And it's been, I ran a book about this.
This is what I'm talking about when I say women are extremely delusional and unaware of how the world really works.
Women don't go into jobs that create infrastructure, that create society.
Women will prefer to go into jobs that are white-collar, air-conditioned, nice and cushy.
Okay?
Even your own profession in itself.
These are, I mean, no offense.
They're not hard manual labor jobs.
Flipping homes is a hard manual labor job.
What do you mean?
Are you the ones actually building everything?
Yes, I was the one actually building.
I just told you I could build an entire house.
Okay, look.
See, this is what I mean when I say women are inherently narcissistic and solipsistic.
Just because you do it doesn't necessarily mean other women are going to do it.
No, but I'm showing that women can do it.
You're trying to say that women can't.
It doesn't matter if you can.
Are they, though?
Just because you're capable.
Yes, there are women out there.
Look, look, look.
Just because you're capable at something doesn't mean you're optimal at something.
You understand?
Yes.
There are two different things.
Just because you can do it doesn't mean you're the best at doing it.
The reality is that men are the best at doing these things.
That's why they do them and women choose not to do them.
Just because you do it doesn't mean a majority of women will do it.
You can't make an argument for yourself or a minority.
An overwhelming amount of women choose to not go into these jobs.
Period.
And in addition to that, the majority of men are the ones seeking out sexual reproduction.
Women aren't the ones like, hey, I'm going to go approach this guy.
Hey, I'm going to fucking go do this.
This guy's like...
Guys will get together and be like, hey, we ordered this pizza.
You think we can get some girls so they can like pizza too?
It's guys that are the ones that are out there trying to push the species forward.
It's never really...
When do you see a group of women getting together like, hey, we're going to make some plans and go get guys?
Men work harder than women, period.
And I'll tell you why.
Because a man's ability to procreate is based on his status.
Okay?
The biggest striving force for men is the sex.
For a man to get sex, men are deductive problem solvers.
I want to get laid.
What do I need to do to get laid?
I need to create excess resources so a woman will take me seriously, aka acquire wealth, right?
So men have a higher proclivity to work.
This is why men work more dangerous jobs.
They work more hours.
They're more likely to work jobs That will kill them.
90% of workforce deaths are men.
It's not women.
Why?
Because women understand deep down, right?
You stand out, right?
You said you make 99% more than most women, right?
Not most women, about women my age.
And I'd say about definitely 80.
But think about that.
Why do you make more than most women?
Because most women aren't hard workers.
Period.
Period.
Because women don't have a natural proclivity to create excess resources because they don't have to.
The hotter a girl is, the less she has to work hard.
You have a woman here that was a trophy wife for 12 years.
Can I be a trophy husband?
Fuck outta here!
I was a trophy wife for 8 years, but I worked alongside my fiancée.
You had the ability to do so.
I will never be a trophy husband.
I will never be able to stay at home and have a woman take me seriously.
You have the privilege of being able to do so.
So since women have that privilege, guess what?
Incentivization to work as hard is not there because you don't need to do it.
Going back to what I said before, a woman that doesn't need a man is never going to be able to compete with a girl.
She's always going to beat...
A woman that wants a man is never going to be able to compete with a woman that needs a man.
Same thing.
Same exact dynamic.
She's not going to lower her standards as much as a woman who needs a man.
You want to cope and make an explanation for why.
The point is that you can't fucking compete with a woman that needs a man.
If you want the man.
You understand?
This is why women...
Can't compete with men because women don't need to create excess resources.
Men do.
This is why men make more money than women.
It's not because of a wage gap or because men are assholes or sexist, blah, blah, blah.
No!
Women have more opportunities now than ever, but they still make less money.
Why?
Because women are inherently lazy when it comes to resource creation, but they're not lazy when it comes to children creation.
That's a woman's thriving point.
So there's women out there that are successful and make money, but your ability to mate is not contingent upon creating excess resources.
Ours is.
That's why men take more risks and work harder than women and create these infrastructure jobs.
Because we know we need to go out there and create.
Otherwise, we're not going to be able to create children.
Y'all are the ones that hold the keys when it comes to picking the man.
So that's why men work harder than women and work jobs that are more risky and more hours, etc.
And also because they're biologically stronger.
We have to, yeah.
But we're made for it.
We really are like a thousand percent fueled by our desire for women.
Like me, Fresh, Myron, everything we do at the backbone of it all.
Like, yeah, part of it's like, yeah, be successful, whatever.
But another part is like, women might like this.
And that's like these guys do these crazy jobs that drill to the fucking center of the earth and shake the hands with the fucking devil.
It's because they know I'm going to go home and my wife's going to make me a sandwich and pat me on the head and be like, hey, you're my hero.
The kids are going to come home and be like, dad's great.
And that's what's been kind of stripped away from...
The average man these days is just like the ability of a woman to come in and just like appreciate the guy.
And it is an America-centric problem.
And that's why a lot of American girls, they're losing out to Venezuelan girls.
They're losing out to Chinese girls.
They're losing out to Colombian girls.
They're losing out to Thai girls.
They're losing out to Japanese girls.
Because these girls understand from their culture that a man needs to feel respected and Heard and appreciated.
Guys nowadays just want to be appreciated.
The average man is so starved for female appreciation that he's fucking buying you slingshots to go on the trips.
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong when I'm saying this?
No, for sure.
The average woman doesn't respect the average man.
These guys are dying for appreciation.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Okay, we got some chats here.
Okay, was there anything else that...
Did you have anything that you wanted to say that?
Because I genuinely think that men are the prize because men have to create their value.
Women are born with it.
So are you really a prize when you're born with your value?
Um...
I would say we are the prize because we create life.
And I say that you need us far more than we need you because women can create the life that they want without a man.
But men literally, we just need women.
You literally need women.
How will you create life without sperm?
Without sperm?
Oh, I didn't say it without sperm.
We don't need a man.
We can go to the sperm bank.
That still requires a man.
Some guy's still jerking it into the...
I'm saying we don't have to be in a traditional relationship to get everything we want in life.
Let's say we want to get...
Let me make this very simple.
Women need men for survival.
Men need women to propagate a society because you're saying, oh, like, we don't need men, whatever.
They actually did an experiment on this.
You ever seen Survivor Bear Grylls?
They put women on an island and they put men on an island.
The women within hours were literally almost going to die.
They couldn't clean the water.
They couldn't cook.
They couldn't hunt.
They couldn't do anything.
They couldn't make fire.
They couldn't make fire.
The men, within a few hours, had shelter set up, fire, and they were hunting.
And they were able to go ahead and figure out, okay, you do this, you do that, you have this skill set.
Delegation.
With the women, they weren't able to do that.
Oh, do you want to kill this animal?
They're over here taking a fucking vote, figuring out if they want to do it because of their feelings.
That's because that's a man's natural.
This is why I say men need to be in leadership roles because women, their emotions clout their ability to make decisions that might impede how they feel.
I do agree with that, for sure.
So men, women need men.
Men don't need women.
We need each other.
But ultimately, we need each other, men and women together.
Because we're better together and we are apart.
Ultimately.
I'm not trying to fuck no hot bagel.
Okay.
Where are we at here?
We're at Massachusetts 617.
He goes, please let Dave Weiss come on the show, the premiere Flat Earth debater on YouTube.
I'm a huge fan of you guys.
Keep up the great work.
He has a ton of great science.
We're going to have John Zerka on Wednesday, so he'll talk about Flat Earth.
Baller0970 goes, since the girls keep asking an example of high-value women, you should show them like Vanessa Bryant or Grant Cardone's wife.
They can hold down a high-value man.
P.S. You guys should create a Passport Bros video and travel vlog.
It's trending at the moment.
I appreciate that.
Ladies, put yourself in the shoes of the guy hitting you up on Soul Shore in the clubs.
Do you think you would scratch doves or L and Y? Would you actually get progress or get results hitting up girls as a guy?
I mean, we've done that experiment before.
Girls have zero idea.
Zero game.
Zero game, bro.
We've done that before, my friend.
Hashirama sends you.
We have the girls.
Basically, we're doing a reenactment.
We have the girls go ahead and try to pick up a girl, and we pretend to be the girl, and we give actual objections that girls would typically give, and the girls typically don't know how to deal with it.
I'll say, oh, yeah, I'm here with my friends, and the girl's like, ugh.
I got money.
That doesn't work.
Hashirama Senju goes, hi Jonathan.
I came to Japan and you didn't meet me.
Next time, buddy.
He's here, man.
In sunny Florida.
John goes, question for the ladies.
What do you think about women who go overboard with procedures like facelifts and Botox?
Are women like this not insecure?
E.g.
Final form, Stephanie.
Hmm.
Clearly traumatized.
In Miami, it's very common.
Yeah, clearly traumatized.
Adam Russell goes, thank you guys for all the good work.
My score went from 504 to 710 in three months.
Good to see you at Fresh Fit, Jonathan.
You guys changed my life, L304. All right, appreciate that, my friend.
This may be the most respectful panel I've seen yet.
Keep up the good work, ladies.
You might even get wired up one day.
I think you said that earlier.
That must have been before all the interruptions.
Question for ladies, how would you retain your man after you smash?
Hmm.
Didn't we cover that?
I think that's a good question.
I think we covered that though.
Did I? Unless you want to answer it.
We covered it.
We did?
Alright.
Oh no, Fresh's Balls goes, Ayo Fresh, there's nothing wrong with using some lotion regularly.
Give me the same level of attention you give to a satisfying woman.
I would be clean and smooth for the ladies.
Not actually like your feet.
Do better, Fresh.
I appreciate that.
I mean, Daniel goes, only fans and Serbian girl is another reason why women deserve less.
Your views are the reasons for the chaos in your relationships.
No accountability.
Just saying, yeah, this whole conversation started with Miss Serbia and going to the club.
And I think you guys were trying to defend her going to the club.
Damn straight.
Yeah.
I mean, like I said before, I don't think that's behavior conducive to a...
Good long-term relationship is just that a lot of times guys don't have the value to tell their girl I don't like you going to the club because they're going to get you're insecure or what's wrong with you or you're controlling or misogynistic but I genuinely believe that you need to protect women from themselves and going to the club is not good behavior for a girlfriend like Common sense.
Here's the thing, a guy that has options, why is he going to pick you, right, going to the club and partying and shit when you can go get a girl that isn't going to do that shit?
So do you mean like not partying like at all or just like because like if she goes out and she goes to the club with her friends and she does it like maybe once a month, that's still too much?
She shouldn't be putting herself in situations where there's other men there and alcohol is being served and those other men have the intention of fucking her.
Without my presence.
Without me being there.
A woman should not be entering any situation where there's a potential X variable where sex with another man can occur Unless the man is with her So I'm guessing you guys don't think women and men can be friends Like the pool boy, the male man, they come to your house Okay, alright, there's a difference between if I don't want to get robbed, right?
I can get robbed in Brickell, but if I want to mitigate risk, I'm gonna stay in Brickell, right?
Versus I go to Opalaka What's going to increase the chances of me getting robbed?
Going up there, right?
So I know what you're saying.
Oh, well, I could get a hit on going to the grocery store.
True.
But you're going to get hit on a lot more at a nightclub.
With alcohol, dark lights, and as well, other men.
Yeah.
So do you guys not think that men and women can be platonic friends?
No.
No.
You don't?
No.
There's always some type of intention.
You underestimate how much dudes are trying to fuck.
I guess I must.
I guess I must.
There are some men in my life that I absolutely 100% see as friends.
Okay, hold on.
What value do you provide to your platonic male friends?
Friendship.
What encompasses this friendship?
What do you provide in this friendship?
Hanging out, making each other laugh.
You make them laugh.
Yeah, having fun, just having a good time.
See, but you don't have any intention or interest in ever fucking them?
No.
Like, you are, like, that is a hard no for you, but I'm telling you in the back of their head, there's one thought.
And they have not shown any interest towards me either.
No, it's a friend group.
No, I'm telling you you think that because I have a bad best friend.
So you're telling me that deep down, they're all pining for me.
Guys, this is Taylor.
I've considered having sex with you tonight.
The only reason I'm entertaining this is because I think that men are kind of...
Your perspective on men is so fundamentally wrong.
I think it's definitely if you're a single girl and you have multiple guy friends, they definitely want to fuck you.
But either way, it's always that thought.
If a guy is interested in you ladies and he hasn't fucked you, in his mind, he thinks like...
I think I can pull this off.
What about when you're in a group of friends?
Let me ask you guys this.
How many of you think men and women could be platonic friends?
Raise your hands if you think yes.
How many?
One, two, three, four, five, six.
Okay.
What do you guys provide as a friend that he can't get from another man?
We'll start right here.
Chinese translation.
I think the friendship, everyone's different.
You have different kinds of friends.
No, but what do you provide in particular to him as a friend that he can't get from another man?
He can still hand out with other friends and he can still hand out with me.
It doesn't have to be different.
We can be the same friend group.
What about you?
What do you offer to him that his guy friends can't provide?
Well, we are different people.
I'm a different person than his guy friends.
Yeah, I understand that.
So we're different personalities.
It's a different friendship.
What do you provide in your personality to him?
Well, I'm funny.
Really?
There's a bunch of things.
Not to you, not right now.
I mean, you've had an opportunity on this podcast for a bunch of time to prove you're funny.
Okay, well, I didn't.
So are you really funny?
Yeah, I'd say so, just not right now.
Interesting.
She's contextually funny.
Who else said that men and women can be friends platonically?
Who else said it?
You?
Okay, how so?
What do you provide a value that a guy can't provide?
Honestly, I can't answer that question because I feel like you can provide the same exact thing as a guy can provide in a friendship.
For me, just talking about me specifically, I have done a lot more than most people my age in a lot of different areas.
So they come to me for advice about buying things, investing, or working on their cars.
The question was that they can't get from a guy.
It's the same thing.
We're all people.
We can all pretty much provide the same things.
Anybody else?
We can provide a female perspective on things.
A female perspective on what in particular?
Say they're having a problem.
Maybe they're having some sort of problem and they need some sort of female perspective.
Maybe they're trying to land a girl that's not going well.
They need another female perspective.
I have absolutely helped my male friends through these kinds of situations.
We can definitely offer something that maybe a male can't offer.
Is it better to go to the fish or the fishermen to catch the fish?
The fish?
I don't know what kind of question that is.
If I want to catch fish, is it better for me to ask the fish or to ask the fishermen?
So you're saying all men have all the knowledge.
All men have all the knowledge.
Women have nothing that they can give to a man.
I want to ask you this.
The fishermen.
Why the fishermen?
That, I'm not entirely sure.
Okay.
So you were saying, going back to you, you disagree with that?
No, no, no, I agree with that.
Okay.
That was because I agreed with them, what they said, like, we can offer everything, all the same things that a male friend can offer.
But you quite literally just said the fisherman is better, which would be the man, not a woman.
No.
The fish is a woman.
My addendum to that was that we can offer a female perspective on things.
But what's superior?
The fisherman or the fish?
Here's how I got cap.
The fisherman, I guess.
That's just a weird analogy, though.
That's a weird analogy.
It's not as good as your other ones.
It's simple.
It's very simple.
Women are the fish.
Men are the fishermen.
So, in other words, for me to catch a fish as a fisherman, I must understand what bait to use.
I must understand what water is sufficient.
I must know which rod to use.
Men must understand women to attract them.
However, women don't have to understand men to attract them, which is why you guys...
But a woman can help you understand women.
We were saying that we can offer you a female's perspective.
Your perspective is not important because I quite literally just told you, as a fisherman, I must understand the fish.
The fish can only tell you, well, I would respond maybe to this bait.
So who's going to give you a more holistic view of how to catch the fish?
The actual fish or the fisherman?
And on top of that, you're only one breed of fish.
So that maybe is how to catch this breed of fish.
But the fisherman's going to know how to get...
Fucking salmon, longfish, catfish, etc.
So the fisherman knows all different types of fish.
You can only speak from your limited perspective as that particular fish.
The subject was if males and females could be friends, you were asking what females could offer a male that another male couldn't.
I answered your question.
Yeah, but it's not...
He's trying to say that no one cares about the feminine advice.
No, the feminine advice.
What I'm trying to say is that the feminine advice is not helpful.
You're better off going to the fisherman versus the fish.
Because her perspective is limited.
You could get a female perspective.
It's a limited perspective.
Well, it's a limited perspective.
It doesn't change the fact that they're asking the fish, I guess.
But no, no.
The reality is, too, when the average guy asks the average woman about, like, hey, can you give me some dating advice or whatever, she typically just says, oh, just be yourself and be nice and go talk to her and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
No, there's a lot more to it than that.
No, it's not.
Because I'm telling you, from a perspective of guys who have probably all asked women on the tail end, like, Hey, like, when I was younger, I used to ask them, like, a friend of mine who was, like, married, my friend's mother.
I was like, you know, what do women want?
She's like, just be yourself.
I was like...
That's so vague.
That's just awful advice.
And the reality is, the man who is...
Understanding on a consistency basis how to seduce and attract women and keep them in his life, in his roster, whatever.
He's going to be far more competent and way more understanding in the techniques, the terminology, everything in attracting women compared to like asking some bitch at Trader Joe's.
It's just like, hey, can you tell me what does it take to attract a good woman?
What do you provide to a guy that's a friend that another guy can't provide?
I was going to say pretty much the same thing she said.
Unlimited perspective of being caught as a fish?
Ice cream?
No, like a different perspective, pretty much.
A different personality.
That maybe you guys wouldn't have thought of, you know?
Because like I mean like if you want to go to a guy and ask for advice versus a girl about girls I feel like the girl would provide a much a much more realistic answer and logic answer because she's a girl you know what I mean girl what does that mean because she's a girl?
You can't give him advice about other girls because you only know about yourself and what attracts you.
She said, I feel like...
Notice, I feel like feelings come out whenever girls want to express things.
For example, oh, he did this to you?
Now her feelings are involved, so here's my advice.
That doesn't mean that all is going to be right, though.
Her emotions are involved with that answer.
Because you have to think about, as a female, asking a man for advice about another man.
I wouldn't go ask...
If I had...
Needed advice about a man that I was interested in, I'm going to ask my dad or my stepdad.
A man that I know is not ever going to be sexually interested in me in any way, shape, or form.
Because if I have a guy best friend, he's attracted to me in some way, shape, or form.
And in the back of his head, he's probably thinking something.
And in a guy's mind, they're going to be like, Yeah, dump up.
Because if you leave him, like if you leave the guy, well then that opens an opportunity for that guy.
But I've gotten some pretty sound advice from my male friends is also another point I want to make.
I've definitely gotten some pretty good advice.
I can't think of it on the spot, but I know that I have.
Profound.
I know that I absolutely have.
I got some great advice from Myron on the panel here.
I can tell you what it was.
He was just like, if you're not drinking enough water...
Your pee's gonna be yellow.
And then I remember that.
It's life-changing advice.
It's as simple as this.
So what is this life-changing male advice you've received?
I don't know.
It's so hard on the spot.
Like, on the spot, really?
On the spot, really?
All I'm saying is that I have in the past gotten...
I said all that to set this up.
There's not much utility that women offer men.
Men are only your friends hoping that they can fuck you.
That's a pretty bleak perspective, in my opinion.
It's very true.
You should go have lunch with a bunch of desperate guys, dressed as a Dressed as a man.
Because the reason why it's pointless to have female friends is because women are not men and you guys aren't held to the same masculine burden of performance that men are.
If I tell you about my problems, you're not really in a position to help me because men and women experience different lives.
Okay?
I'm held to a certain standard that I must perform.
You perform.
Electively, I perform.
It's mandatory, pretty much.
And if I don't, I'm ridiculed for it.
If you don't perform, you can still find a man to take care of you, you know, if you're hot enough, right?
Or it could be average.
You'll still find a guy.
So my point is that women are not good friends to guys.
If a guy is sitting there and tolerating you being a friend, nine out of ten times, he wants to fuck.
Because women don't offer much utility to men, being honest here.
I can agree with that.
And the thing that you guys all mentioned was all bullshit.
I can give you a female perspective.
Bullshit.
Female perspective.
Bullshit.
You.
I can go teach you how to invest in whatever.
A man can give him that.
He can pay for a coach.
You couldn't really come up with a reason.
You said you're funny.
LOL. And then you said that you can do something.
What'd you do?
The opposite of his investing advice.
Yeah.
Very Chinese answer.
So women don't really offer men much utility.
Guys are only friends with girls 9 out of 10 times to fuck.
Okay, so I have...
Oh, go ahead.
So, we're four hours in.
What?
You guys can ask questions, no problem, but let's get these shots.
Let's keep fighting.
Lord Myron's balls, fresh balls are like most 304s, miserable and insecure, always looking for validation from other 304s.
Turn the lights on, ladies.
They're all not small.
They're just so dark.
They look invisible.
Does Chris play Herb in the Ridiculous Six movie?
I never saw it, so I don't know.
Federico goes, MLD is the man in Tokyo.
On definition of practice, what you preach, awesome seeing his deserved continuing success.
Absolutely.
Cool.
Shout out to him.
Shiden Bricks goes, any guy friends that has a chance to smash, he's going to take it.
If you truly love your guy, you wouldn't have guy friends.
He's saying, go ahead to the bar because he won't want to argue with you.
Plus, why not bring your man with you to the bar?
And here's the other thing.
Do you have a guy friend that you think is actually a guy friend to you?
Yeah.
Really?
Cole?
Yes.
Multiple.
You?
Yeah, we have a group of friends.
A group?
Yeah, there's two couples in the group and then like three single guys and like two single girls.
Would he face serious social consequences if he tried to have sex with you and failed?
With me?
Yeah, if he tried.
Who?
Which guy?
The guy that's in this friend group.
Just like their single guy?
Yeah.
This guy that you're friends with, allegedly.
No, he wouldn't have consequences.
We're both single people, so there's really no consequences.
Okay, so he could sleep with you.
If I was interested in him, yeah, he could.
So you don't think he's trying to sleep with you?
No, I don't.
I don't think they're trying to sleep with you.
Absolutely not.
Really?
Yes, really.
Why?
Not the cap!
Because like he will come to me and he'll start talking to me about girls about who he's fucked about Just stuff that he For more than two minutes he wants to fuck you home Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You're confident, right?
He doesn't want to fuck you.
Yes.
We should do a test.
Call him on the phone right now.
Who else thinks that they're platonic?
Who else is here?
Who else?
Her.
Okay, who else?
Oh, you changed your mind now, huh?
No, no, no.
I've never really thought that guys would want to be your friend without having some type of intention behind that.
What value do you provide to your friend that you think he wouldn't want to just fuck you?
What value do you provide to your guy friend that he wouldn't just want to fuck you?
No, I didn't say that.
I agreed with you guys.
I said that I don't believe that a guy doesn't have an intention of wanting to fuck you.
Okay, so your guy wants to fuck you too then, you think?
Obviously.
Oh, okay.
So he's not a platonic friend then?
I think they can be platonic friends, but if you hit a female, any female hits up a guy and it's like, hey, you down?
They're gonna say yes.
Yeah, they're gonna fight him.
So that means that they're not platonic because the root term platonic means...
But they're also not actively pursuing at all.
You can have a platonic relationship with someone.
It's only platonic because you're making it platonic.
It's one-sided.
It's one-sided, yes.
No, I think he would just take advantage of the situation like an opportunist.
So underlying intention means it's not genuine.
So platonic means strictly, hey, fuck that.
I don't want any type of sexual intentions.
If it's being hidden, what is that?
He's not your friend.
See, they know deep down that their friends want to fuck him.
Most men just would not deny sex if it came to them.
Because women don't offer much utility outside of friendship.
That's why.
That's my point.
No, I'm saying that They may not be your friend just because they secretly want to fuck you, but if you turn around and say, hey, you want to, they most likely aren't going to say no.
I just don't think that's the sole reason, and I think it's really insulting to say that that is the sole reason, as if we don't have any other value.
Any other value.
Let me give you a cold hard reality, alright?
I don't want to sound like an asshole here, but most women are not funny.
Most women are not entertaining.
If you look at the best entertainers, the best comedians, they're all men.
There's very few females that are actual comedians, which a lot of girls like to say they're funny and they're fucking not.
Most girls don't have interesting perspectives on life and or don't necessarily have interests that coincide with what a man would have.
A lot of girls don't have hobbies.
When I ask girls, what are your hobbies?
They say dumb shit like anything.
No, I agree.
It's actually a lot of basic girls.
Okay, so in general, most women are not that interesting and don't bring much to the table.
Why the fuck would a guy really want to be friends with them if it's not sexual?
In general?
That wasn't what I was saying.
I was saying that if they're really...
It's fucked up that you're saying that there's not much value outside of sex.
I'm telling you, most women don't provide much value.
So why would guys want to actually be friends with them?
Please tell us.
Yeah, please.
If we're speaking in general...
I wasn't saying every woman either.
I guess I was speaking more from my perspective.
Oh, once again, speaking...
Go ahead.
You can't speak...
Look, look.
If you're going to make an argument about generalities, especially when I prefaced and said most women, you can't make an argument for yourself.
Yeah.
That's low IQ behavior.
That's not generality.
Especially when I prefaced it for you and told you most women.
Yeah.
Like, for example, how stupid would I sound if I said, well, you said, world hunger is a thing and it sucks.
What if I said, I'm a multi-mariner, I don't gotta deal with that shit.
I eat every day.
Wouldn't I sound like a fucking moron?
Of course.
Mean.
Oh, that's exactly how I just sounded a second ago.
You can't make arguments for yourself, bro.
Like, I've had to do that several times with you and with you.
So one doesn't revolve around y'all, bro.
I make a general statement.
It's not based on you.
If I say most women...
Chris, fucking stop, man.
If I say most women, right, are not interesting and boring, etc., that's not you.
I'm not attacking you in particular.
I'm saying just most.
You can't take what I say and be like, he's attributing this to me.
This is fucked up.
Let me defend myself.
No.
Basic arguments.
Basic debate.
You girls really underestimate me.
A guy will look at you and be like, yeah, she's annoying.
Yeah, she's kind of fucking, you know, pain in the ass.
But, I could maybe have sex with her.
Like, the average guy weighs his ability to potentially have sex with you over all of your character flaws.
And it's just like such a gigantic weight because that's what we're supposed to do as men.
As humans, ladies and gentlemen, we are supposed to have sex, have children, and die.
And if you don't want to deal with that...
Grow up with it.
Do you have more guy friends or girlfriends?
Girlfriends.
Also, my guy friends are my girlfriend's boyfriends.
What about you?
Do you have more guy friends or girlfriends?
Girlfriends.
What about you?
Do you have more?
Maybe half more.
I mean, yeah, I only have like one friend and it's a girl.
Okay.
Stop the cap!
Half, half.
Half, half.
Girlfriends.
Girlfriends?
I have more girlfriends.
Okay.
I would say half and half.
Half and half.
Girlfriends.
Half and half.
Okay.
Who do you prefer to hang out with?
Your guy friends or your girlfriends?
Who's more fun?
Don't cap.
Keep it a thousand.
More fun?
Yeah.
My guy friends.
Well, the only time I'm with guys is if it's like my friend's girlfriends or maybe they're just like an acquaintance, but like I wouldn't go hang out with them on a one-on-one setting or like text them or call them on the phone.
Which you're able to get on boats thanks to them, right?
Because of your friends being with them, correct?
I mean, I know people with stuff like their acquaintances, but I don't like hang out with them.
So get value out of it.
What about you?
What's more fun, hanging out with the guys or the girls?
My guys are more fun.
Interesting.
Girls are more fun.
Okay.
Girls.
The girls are more fun?
Honestly, yeah.
Girls.
Well, you only have one girlfriend.
Yeah.
In your case, girl.
Okay.
What about you?
Who's more fun?
The guy friends or the girlfriend?
Guys.
Definitely.
The girls.
The girls.
Okay.
What about you?
The girls.
See, I would say what?
It's 50-50.
Half of y'all would prefer to hang out with guys and don't want to hang out with girls and y'all expect us to hang out with girls.
Even the girls don't want to hang out with other girls, bro.
No, I'm saying that guys are more fun to hang out with.
That's what you ask.
If guys are more fun to hang out with, why do y'all think we want to hang out with you guys for real?
That's my point.
You even prefer to hang out with guys.
Okay, because they're more fun.
But if it was on a general night just to hang out, I would choose the girls.
But the guys are more fun to hang out.
More entertaining, yes.
Because you get more value hanging out with guys, correct?
Because men are used to having to trade value.
Women are not.
So it's not in a man's best interest to be platonic friends with a girl.
No, I just find them less catty and annoying.
That's still a value point.
That's still a value point.
So, yo, typical dataset...
So you even prefer to hang out with guys?
Yeah, you're arguing for us to hang out with girls.
Come on, man.
Yo, typical dataset is...
Can I press the button?
Your guy friends, right?
No, stupid.
Your guy friends will take you out.
They'll get a table.
They'll buy the bottles.
You just show up, have fun, get lit.
Girlfriends, uh, who's paying for the bottle?
Not me and broke.
You got me bitch.
Yeah, dude, girls are more like, splitting it.
Yeah, so it's two different late-late styles.
This was my item and that was yours.
We will never take an issue.
By the way, some more chats here.
Let's get this on the road because it's...
Four hours.
We gotta go mush-mush-y.
I'm just saying!
Where is it tonight?
Fresh booby trap?
Somebody gotta say it.
I'll take it.
Booby trap?
We read this one.
This is a smashing and taking it.
Going out at night drinking with opposite gender all while being in a five-year relationship.
I know why you don't want to get married.
You still want to have your fun.
You've been with that man for five years and you're still getting to know him.
Amazing.
Ouch!
He got me right in the feels, man.
Alright, thanks.
Alright.
Austin goes, the patriarchy was created by fathers to protect their wives and daughters.
Privilege under equality feels like oppression.
Interesting.
That's deep.
And then Tom Jones, ladies, especially the two boss babes, the last thing I want to do is go to you about my problems.
We can never be friends.
Women aren't really equipped to handle your problems.
I would say if a man opens up to a girl and is vulnerable and tells you about his problems, you're going to lose respect for him.
No, that's not true.
We love a sensitive motherfucker, that's for sure.
If you're allowing us to see that vulnerable side of you, that just shows that, like, that's kind of attractive.
That's attractive.
That's actually really attractive.
How many guys have shown you their, I guess, more sensible side, for example?
A friend?
Not many.
No, a guy that you're dating.
Dude, you pipe in.
Their vulnerable side.
How many guys have shown you that?
They were dating.
I don't have a boy, an ex, but past situations, like two or three.
Where are they now?
Gone.
Let's move on.
Did your attraction for him grow after he cried or decreased?
I think it just feeds your ego.
It's a yes or no question.
Yes, it growed.
No, it decreased.
It stayed the same.
It didn't go up or down.
You said they're like, look at this pussy crying.
Just because he cries?
That goes against what you said.
You just said it was attractive for them to be vulnerable.
It's attractive for them to be vulnerable, but I'm not saying if they start crying, I'm going to be like...
You know what I mean?
Men should be able to be vulnerable.
A lot of men commit.
With who?
With women or other men?
With everyone, honestly.
They hold so much things inside that some of them literally choose to Because they can't handle the stress.
They have no one to talk to.
They have no other outlet.
And there's all the stress of taking care of a woman who can't take care of her self.
Yeah, but they shouldn't talk to women about it.
They should talk to anybody, but the society tells...
They should talk to somebody.
Especially if you have a wife.
Not their woman.
Yes.
You should be able to talk to your partner.
You should be your best friend.
You should be able to connect on a really deep emotional level.
That's really what it's about.
That's really what it's about.
Having your best friend.
All in one.
Here's the thing.
As a man, let's go into a scenario real quick, since you guys really think this.
For the two girls here, you guys should be your best friend.
Let's say you're in a war.
Okay, you're in the fucking battlefield.
Guns are going off.
You know, fucking gunshots everywhere.
I got a Ruger and an F&N and everything.
So, your lieutenant walks in, right?
He walks in the battlefield like, oh my god, I don't know what to do.
And he fucking starts breaking down in the middle of war.
Okay?
And then, 20 minutes later, he tries to give you orders.
Are you going to follow his orders?
No.
Why not?
Because that's like a whole different, like...
No.
No one's breaking down in the middle of war.
That is such an extreme example.
The adrenaline running through your body at war, you are not breaking down and crying.
That's such an extreme example.
You guys are missing the point here.
Are you going to still have the same level of respect for that commanding officer, seeing him break down and cry in front of you and not know what to do in a crazy situation?
I'm asking her.
Would you still respect them?
Yes, just because they had this emotional moment.
I'm not gonna just be like, oh you pussy, now you don't know what you're talking about.
I think that's a really bad stigma.
Please answer the question, what would you do?
I'm trying to...
There are men that are in active duty that cry to each other about seeing their friends blown up or hurt or stuff.
I'm going to get to that point.
They cry to each other.
But answer the question, would you...
Because you're reading way too much into the analogy, but I'm going to address what you just stated a second ago.
What would you do when the commanding officer is going crazy and they're responsible for you making it through this war alive?
Would you actually listen to them from that point forward, seeing them break down?
If they were going crazy, no.
If they're breaking down because they just saw someone they love blow up and they're having a moment...
Would you actually take them seriously and follow their lead for the rest of the situation?
Yes.
If they're a normal human having an emotional reaction to seeing someone blow up, then yes.
If they weren't crying, I would be afraid.
Okay.
You know what?
Let's go ahead and go in reality because you guys are trying to make a point here and you're both wrong.
The thing is this.
If someone that's responsible for you, right, and is supposed to have authority over you, breaks down and shows weakness and not being able to lead you, you're quite effectively going to say, well, this guy can't lead me.
I got to take matters into my own fucking hands.
This guy's fucking soft.
So when a man opens up to a woman and is vulnerable, as you guys say, what is effectively telling that girl is, I'm supposed to be the masculine leader here.
The cornerstone of masculinity actually is leadership and being able to be stoic.
I'm going to break down to a woman.
Now, your ability to feel secure, because that's what women look for in a man, is being secure, is diminished to a degree.
Because you don't know if you can actually follow me, because I don't even know what the fuck's going on.
This is why I say being vulnerable to a woman doesn't work.
Not what you said before.
Well, open up to your platoon mates.
Yes, I think men should open up to other men.
Not to women, especially not their girlfriend.
They should open up to a woman.
If you're in a relationship, a husband and wife, and that's all you guys, you guys are your best friends, you should be able to open up to each other.
Look, stop.
A second ago, not a second ago, at the top of the show, you said you saw your ex-boyfriend, but he looked weaker and skinnier, and his hair loss was there, right?
I just wasn't attracted to him anymore.
Okay.
But what are those traits based on?
Physicality, right?
Yeah.
So, his ability, right?
Because you guys are making this bullshit claim about being vulnerable, whatever.
But when push came to shove, his ability to provide security seemed diminished because he was skinnier, right?
He wasn't able to be strong and protective.
And this is what I'm trying to say.
Women search for strength in a man.
That's why women look for security.
Financial resources, him being taller, him being muscular, him being more dominant.
These are all survival traits that women look for.
So when I effectively say, oh, I don't know where I am, I break down and start crying.
I'm showing that I am a weakling and women look for what?
Strong men.
Being weak as a man is unattractive.
Having emotions as a man should be normal.
No.
Yes.
It should be normalized.
You're talking about physical strength and emotional strength.
No, because here's the thing.
Men are valued when they control their emotions.
Only women get the privilege of being emotionally erratic and retarded.
Men can't.
Because when men are emotionally erratic, what do you end up with?
School shooters, violent individual, serial killers, etc.
They're enacting on their emotions.
It's not good for a man to be emotional because violence can follow it.
A woman could be emotional because y'all are fairly harmless.
If they're healthily managed, then yes, it absolutely is a good thing.
School shooters...
Emotional men are not attractive.
I disagree.
Maybe not overly emotional, but sensitive and able to talk about their shit.
Yes, absolutely.
If I'm sensitive and emotional, I'm not going to...
Look, look, look.
I'm going to make stupid decisions if I'm emotional and sensitive all the time.
I said somebody who can open up and talk about their shit and be vulnerable.
Talk to men, not to women.
You're not going to talk to my girl about my problems because you're not equipped to handle my problems as a woman.
Myron's talking about a guy whose default setting is to be an emotional guy.
We're talking about a man who is normally in touch with his emotions and able to communicate them and talk about them.
That's what we're talking about here.
You girls missing it.
Listen, be quiet.
All of you.
He's saying that he's emotional all the time.
We understand that for sure.
No, no, no.
Listen, you're all missing it.
Okay?
Men do not want to go to their women and be like, hey baby, I'm feeling blue, or I'm feeling this, or I'm feeling that.
Because one, all we know is that she's gonna look at it and be like, oh, it's gonna be okay.
That's one part of it.
And two, objectively, we're looking for solutions.
Men don't sit around and cry about a problem to cry about the problem.
We talk about the problem to get solutions.
We're solution-oriented individuals.
And we know that by going to our girl, There's probably going to be more negative ROI associated with me like, oh babe, I'm feeling like a loser today.
Compared to a guy being like, I'm kind of feeling a loser.
Well, what are you doing to be a loser?
Women don't respond well to weakness.
You showed it earlier with your example of your guy coming in and being skinner than you remembered him.
Women don't respond well to it at all.
Their vagina dries up.
You guys can say whatever bullshit you want to say about, oh, well, I really find it attractive and cool, blah, blah, blah.
The reality is when your guy's actually in front of you crying and that's supposed to be the leader in your life and you're dependent upon him for your safety and your living, you're going to be like, damn.
I don't know if I could be with this fucking guy.
He's a softie.
You know how many girls have come on this pod?
I'd be like, oh man, I thought I wanted it, but my boyfriend cried in front of me and I didn't know how to respond.
I instantly lost respect for him.
I never looked at him the same.
That's so stupid.
I think that's so dumb.
Okay, look, look, look.
Just because you don't look at it that way.
Remember that argument?
I know, I know.
Most women, most women, I know, I get it.
Most girls don't respond favorably to weak men.
And I would argue, even for you, you responded unfavorably to your guy being skinnier and weaker than you remembered him.
Physically, yes.
That's my point.
It all ties back to security.
We were talking about emotionally.
If a man isn't strong mentally, he's not going to be strong physically.
Period.
For you to become strong physically, you must have a strong mind first.
You got to go and endure going to the gym, eating a high-protein diet, abstaining from alcohol, sleeping 8 to 10 hours a night.
Like, you don't build a strong body unless you have a strong mind first.
So if he's mentally weak, everything else is going to be weak.
Mm-hmm.
See, you don't understand this though because you're a woman.
This is what I'm trying to say when I say women live life on easy mode.
Y'all live a privileged life because women don't understand these basic tenements because you guys have the ability to have a man take care of you, like as you're doing right now.
I don't have that privilege, so I have to figure this shit out.
I have to have a strong mind.
You guys can choose if you want to have a strong mind.
And I'm not arguing about it, but it's just a fact.
You don't understand these things because you've never had to live them.
So why the hell am I going to take advice from a woman that hasn't had to live them if I'm coming through the problems?
Okay, fair enough.
Then don't.
But that's what I'm trying to say.
Women are not equipped to handle men when they're vulnerable, as you guys say.
You guys are just not.
Most aren't.
Sure.
That's my point.
Just because you're an entrepreneur and you might be able to advise me or whatever, doesn't mean that most women can.
Most women will look at me like I'm a pussy.
And I would argue, you, since you're a higher status and make more money, you probably have even less tolerance for a man who's inept.
Yeah.
Yeah, when it comes to making decisions.
So you're the worst person to open up to?
No, no.
Emotionally, I'm honestly probably the best because I lead through my heart always.
But from an emotional standpoint, if a guy were to open up to you and still want a relationship, you're going to more likely be the one to dismiss him.
Like, oh, this guy's kind of a pussy.
No, bro, she's 29, man.
Because you don't need him.
You only want him.
Yeah, if he's emotional all of the time, 100%, yeah, I would probably look down.
But if he's a normal guy, like you, if he, you, like, you never have bad days?
No.
You never, you never...
Of course.
Okay.
I'm not gonna tell my girl about it.
You should feel that safe in doing so.
Yeah, you should, you should feel safe.
Listen, I can trust women.
I can trust women.
I understand what you're saying.
Like, damn, bro, we're on your side here.
You should feel safe doing that.
No, because, because here's the thing.
It sucks that you can't.
I genuinely feel that it sucks that you can't.
As a man, I can't operate on should, could, and would.
I operate on what fucking is.
Women in general don't respond well to weak men.
So I'm not going to display weakness to my girl.
Regardless of how I feel that she should accept it, I'm not going to put her in that position to make her accept it.
I'm going to go talk to a guy friend that I know, that I trust.
Am I able to say that I think it's a shame that you can't?
It doesn't matter for them.
I operate on what is.
I don't care about should, could, or would.
Let's build upon that.
What part of his life seems like he's miserable?
He's clearly running a gigantic, globally known podcast.
If you notice, right?
This whole discussion, he's telling you what he wants to do as a man.
You're questioning, we should do this, you should do that.
He's telling you the fuck he's doing.
He's leading.
As a man, I don't want to talk to my girl about my problems.
I'll solve it.
We go on a trip, we have fun, we get lit.
What's the issue here?
No, there's no issue.
We're just saying that we have opinions that in some things...
I made against you guys earlier that you keep telling them what they want when they keep telling you this is what we want and this is what men want and you guys are too fucking stupid to figure it out!
And you just keep going and going and going and everyone's fucking bored and nobody cares and you keep going and going and going and going.
Yes, but four of them...
All right, then change the topic.
Nobody can because you guys just keep going.
Well, that might be a point, but you guys are great.
How many people here?
13k many here?
Yeah, between Rumble, like we got like 20k watching live.
I mean, here's the thing, ladies.
The reason why some of these concepts might seem sound foreign, especially to Miss Serbia, et cetera, is because men aren't honest with women.
Yep.
And when they are honest, like your boyfriend displayed before, being on and off with you for six years, calling you, texting you, whatever, when you're doing certain behaviors, what'd you do?
How'd you reward that?
You can't handle the choice.
How'd you reward it?
But you cannot paint the whole picture of my relationship from five sentences I gave you.
Look, look, look.
How did you reward him when he was honest and transparent about what he wanted from you?
You don't know what happened between us.
It's a huge story.
You broke up with him, right?
After behaving like that?
Yeah.
No!
It kept going up and down, up and down.
It was a crazy relationship, but it is way more details.
That's why you cannot have the full picture of it and to say, this is like this, this is like that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, I don't know what you mean.
Who broke up the relationship?
She did.
The final, final, final one?
Me.
You ended it, right?
Yes.
So, like I said before, my argument is that men can't be honest with women.
And when they are honest and say what they want to do, blah, blah, blah, what did you call them?
Territorial, psychopathic, blah, blah, blah.
And I would argue that his behaviors weren't that far off for a girl that wanted to act like she was single when she had a man.
Look, I don't want to waste words anymore.
It's okay because you want to be right.
You want to be right always.
And it's fine.
It's your podcast.
You're the boss.
Say whatever you want.
I'm not offended.
I'm just telling you that men can't be honest with women, which is why we're saying the things that we're saying.
Because you're saying, oh, not all men think like this.
Or not all men say these things.
No matter what, we can't contradict you.
You haven't been able to contradict me once.
Let me just ask you.
It's because they have facts and you guys, like, you don't.
Like, they're arguing based on facts and you guys are arguing based on your feelings.
Babe, go look them up.
And literally any fact he said, why don't you have him write them down for you?
You can go look them up.
Fact check them out.
Literally, every time you've tried to refuel my claim, it's been based on just your personal experience.
You cannot see how asinine that is.
It's just based on opinion, in my opinion, because it's really not so cut and dry.
That's really just the reality of it.
It's not so cut and dry.
Not everybody's the same.
You said yourself.
There's my personal experience, there's your personal experience, there's hers, hers, and hers.
When I state the things that I do, it's typically based on fact.
What I'm telling you is a fact.
Most men are not honest with most women, which is why when I say these things, it sounds like a foreign concept to a lot of y'all, because you haven't heard it.
But if I line up 100 dudes and we're in here talking, just bro-ing it out, locker room talk, We're gonna agree on most things because here's the thing between men and women.
This is where we're different.
Men don't run around and say, we're special, we think differently, blah, blah, blah.
We're all the fucking same.
I'm telling y'all, men think the same.
Regardless of social class, socioeconomic status, etc.
We think the same.
The only difference between the rich niggas and the poor niggas, the rich niggas can say what the fuck they want to say and not give a fuck what y'all think.
The poor guys gotta be a little bit more different.
They gotta, you know, dance around a little bit because they don't want to lose y'all.
Just like your guy.
He tried to be honest about it.
Hey, I don't want you doing this, blah, blah, blah.
How do you get rewarded?
Broken up with, called a psychopath territorial.
Which to be honest with you, your behavior was what was toxic.
Not necessarily him.
He was responding to your toxic behavior as a girl.
Going out to the club and partying with your friends, blah, blah, blah, right?
Is not behavior that's acceptable when you're with a man.
But how does he get rewarded?
You're insecure, you're toxic, blah, blah, blah.
But women don't want to be held accountable for their poor decisions.
If you want to be single, then be single.
But I don't think what he did was toxic or territorial or controlling, as you would say.
Well, you weren't in the situation, so...
He knows better than me.
Everything's different, bro.
Honestly, every situation's different.
I have a question for everybody, though.
In general, if most relationships end after 5 to 8 to 12 years...
Yeah.
Why should women's priority be getting married and having children if it's ultimately going to end up with them being divorced?
You need to ask all the women that want to get married and that are initiating the divorce.
That's like the biggest commitment you can give.
Women initiate divorces because a man has lied to her.
A woman does not leave a good man.
Unless he has done something wrong.
When it's her man, Hussein Carolyn, providing for her.
He wasn't being a good man to her.
Everything in the world is not what you can provide to me.
You can give a woman everything in the life, but yes, she's dripping in gold and she's wearing rubies, but she's alone.
I'm being a Christian.
You want a secret?
You can't ever please your woman.
All you can do is provide, be the man and leader.
If she wants to follow, she will.
Ultimately, giving her even those days may not satisfy her.
Why am I going to try to satisfy her in all areas?
I'm going to do what I can as a man and provide.
Objectively speaking, she even mentioned that when she went to these community meetups, she was ashamed because she was single.
That's her culture.
Doesn't matter.
We can't just be like, oh, well, fuck all this culture.
That's all cultures.
In America, I don't think it's...
If you look at the beginning of time, right?
How is it that in China, right?
Arab world, Hispanic culture, South America, India, etc.
How is it that without the advent of technology, cell phones, etc., they all kind of understood that a woman should probably be in a relationship with a guy.
So it's not just her culture.
It's culture in general and humanity.
I think maybe I said it wrong.
You think Americans are doing better than the average culture?
You think Americans are doing better family-wise than Indians?
No, I'm saying all of it.
I'm saying if you look at most relationships, they don't last that long.
In America.
Okay.
Do you know the divorce rate?
Hold on, hold on.
You can touch my finger.
But do you know the divorce rate in India and within Hinduism?
Do you know?
No.
Does anybody here know the divorce rate in India Hinduism?
Less than 1%.
Okay, but I'm saying...
So how come this, like, second most populous nation...
What kind of fucking rights do the women have over there, man?
Well, I don't know.
Why don't you tell me?
I don't know.
Okay, so you're just...
So you're just naturally assuming that because the women are not fucking running away from their men, they're naturally oppressed.
You're going off on something completely different.
That's not what I was asking.
We actually have a lot of rights in India.
They have a lot of rights.
I'm saying that in America, most relationships don't last that long.
Most men, they want to get newer models or whatever.
But then, like most women, they're in a relationship.
Sometimes it only lasts two years.
Let me ask you this.
When is she the majority of breakups and divorces?
In America.
Women initiate it because of something a man has done.
No, no, no, no.
Women initiate 80%.
Because a man has either cheated or lied.
You're just making those stats up.
You don't even know that it's true.
You don't even know it's true.
Why would a woman leave a good man?
Set your sources.
No, why would a good woman be a good man?
What is it?
Irreconcilable differences?
Yeah, which is the main one.
Irreconcilable differences?
It's tied back to money.
It's money growing apart or the man wanting to find something new.
It's mostly money though.
Okay, but if relationships only last that long, why is it a priority for women to get married and have kids for the same cycle to keep happening?
It's very simple.
No, because women have a finite amount of time to get the best man that they can versus men don't have that same time clock.
I could be 40 years old and still pull a bat.
But it's not gonna last in this current society.
In America.
Because of feminism.
Once again.
No, not because of feminism.
100% because of feminism.
Yeah, feminism is a big contributor to it.
Cancer.
Who is under the time clock to get married?
It's women, not men.
I'm asking, why would a woman in this day and time even want to get married if we're just seeing that all relationships only have a certain amount of time?
Why even get married?
Why not just enjoy the time that you have with them and the experiences, not get married, not have their kids?
Because ultimately, they're going to leave.
No, that's toxic.
First of all...
First of all, that is toxic.
That was an advice.
I've heard nothing about bad advice all night.
I've heard nothing but you being a pick me girl.
No, no, listen, listen.
Listen, listen, listen, stop, stop with you.
It's true.
At least the good men will pick you.
No, it seems like you really like this podcast.
Hold on, stop the show, stop the show.
You really like these guys and you want to impress them.
She just used the term pick me girl to insult her.
I know that we're in a clown world because a pick me girl is a good thing.
But we live in a society where women actively shame women.
It's crazy to me how women...
Would you call me a pick me guy because I'm working on my status?
Do you know the definition of misogyny?
This is my favorite question.
Tell me.
I'm not calling him a misogynist.
I'm not throwing the term around, babe.
Tell me.
Why is he a misogynist?
Because of the way that he thinks that men are the prize.
That's why I think he is.
Do you know the definition of misogynist?
Yes.
No, because I don't throw the term around.
Do you know what misogyny means?
Please tell us.
Wait, who?
Oh, no, no.
I already said that I don't know the exact term.
I don't know the exact definition.
So you call me something, you don't even know the definition.
We get to know what the word is.
You don't understand.
It doesn't matter.
I know what context clues are.
I know what it kind of means.
Do you know what a misandrist is?
Stupid.
Stupid.
It's a woman that hates men.
I don't hate men.
I'm not a feminist.
You like to throw around terms that you don't know the definition of.
Misandrist is a man that quite frankly hates women.
Hates women.
You kind of sound like you do.
Meyer doesn't hate women.
He loves women the most.
Explain to me what makes you say that I hate women.
What have I said that makes me hate women?
Go ahead.
Please tell us.
The way that you always say that, basically the way you say that you are the prize and women have to be what you want them to be.
It's almost like you don't want a woman to have her own individual life.
It's like you want a woman her entire life to rotate around being the woman you want her to be, burying your kids and taking care of your household and riding your coattail.
I think a woman has a right to have her own entire life and her own experiences alongside a male.
What about that makes me hate women though?
If I want to provide or protect a woman, I would argue it's the opposite of hating.
It's just a crass way of how you come across.
Because if a woman is not following that playbook, you think it's so fucked up.
How does his hatred of women factor into this?
Because if a woman isn't following that exact playbook, you think something's wrong with her and all this shit.
That doesn't mean he hates women, though.
But that does not mean...
I don't know how you guys extrapolate it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Do you girls all miss, like, the whole team of women behind the scenes, like, getting you drinks and helping you get situated before the whole show started?
You know, like, there's a whole team of women.
Do you think they'd be here?
Most high-value men always want women behind them.
They like pretty women around them.
No, we like women who are competent to get the job done.
If you're going to call me a misogynist, I want to see what I actually said.
You also sound pretty fucking pissed that women pretty much have a cakewalk right out the door.
If I acknowledge a fact that women live an easier life than men do in 2023, what about that implies that I hate women if it's a fact?
Every single time we brought up any kind of objection or any kind of point, you've immediately invalidated it.
All of them.
How about you could just be wrong and I'm invalidating you making a wrong statement?
How about that?
Does that mean I hate women?
Because you're saying things that are wrong?
Why do you think your opinions are the truth?
I've been stating facts pretty much the whole time and all you've done is go ahead and say, in my experience, that's not the way it is.
What do you think is facts?
It's really valid.
What if I said that as an opinion?
I take it back and say that I don't think that you hate women, but I definitely think that you think you are way better than women.
Hell yeah, we are.
We're men!
No.
Here's a case in point.
Here's a case in point.
This is the difference.
I understand, because you're trying to frame this as, like, I understand that men and women are different.
And I accept sexism.
You guys are trying to run away from it.
But reality is sexist.
As a man, I must be superior to my girl in every way for her to respect me, submit to me, and let me lead her.
That's just the way the world works.
I acknowledge this and I accept it.
Hell, you guys even said it yourselves.
You're with a man that makes three to four times as much as you do?
You want a guy at least on your level, if not better.
So please explain to me, if I understand these realities that I must be superior to my girl to be attractive, how does that make me an asshole or hate women?
No, I just accept biological reality that women don't seek their equal.
They want a superior.
You realize I've been with some broke motherfuckers, right?
Where are they at now?
Gone.
So?
I was fucking there, man!
Who says women are always looking to be led?
Like, maybe we're just looking for a partner.
No, no, no.
See, here's the thing.
You quite literally are proving my point.
No, I'm not.
You are with broke guys and you're not with them anymore.
What does that prove?
Yeah, you are.
Because they were fucking pieces of shit.
Maybe if they had been a little bit better, we would still be with them.
Men need to be leaders, they need to be competent, and they need to be able to secure their women.
They don't have to be assholes about us.
By the way, I was with my man when he had nothing, and I stood by him.
What makes me an asshole?
Honestly, like I said before, it's just kind of the way you talk and how you speak.
I've been direct.
Yeah, but also kind of mean.
Direct and concise.
Also kind of mean, just like earlier.
Because this is how men communicate.
Men are very direct and they have to speak in this way.
You guys are more concerned with how things are said.
We're concerned with the information that's conveyed.
Men communicate very directly, but it seems to me that you guys just don't like the truth about how men really think.
No, no, no.
I understand what you think.
And honestly, I've learned a lot about how you think most masculine males think and what they want from a relationship.
I definitely have learned a lot from that.
I just don't think that's all God.
I don't think there's every man, you know, you can't put a label on every single person.
That's Most guys think the way that I do.
They just don't have the balls to tell you to your face because they're going to get this treatment, getting called a misogynist, you hate women, blah, blah, blah.
But it's really easy to say that and slap that label on everybody.
Who the fuck is backing that up?
Do not cut them off.
Wait, you said what?
It's easy to what?
It's really easy to slap that label on everybody and say that most guys think like this.
It's like, how do you know that?
Because men are very simple creatures.
And then behind the scenes, we work with literally tens of thousands of men who come to us for consultation.
From around the world.
From around the world on a global context.
Like, I have an Asia context.
I mean, freshness from the Caribbean.
Even when I was talking about my own experience.
Go ahead, cut me off.
Fuck me.
Who cares?
You've been cutting me off all night.
You've been cutting us all off all night.
Take it over.
Take it over.
You've been cutting us all off all night, bro.
Fuck off.
All right?
I mean, you even kind of invalidated my own experience, saying, like, this is this, and this is this, and it's like, no, like, you don't.
You're invalidating her experience, saying that, like, no, it's this.
It's like, you don't know.
You weren't there.
What about the tens of thousands?
You don't know everything.
What about the tens of thousands of guys that we've coached?
Who gives a fuck?
You've got two women sitting in front of you telling you about their experiences and you are openly invalidating them.
That's what I'm fucking talking about.
I don't give a flying fuck about those other dudes.
I'm not talking about them.
So that's why you're logically flawed.
You're not that fucking hard to wrap your fucking head around.
You're caring about two people's perspective over tens of thousands.
If you knew how psychological studies work or Anything along those lines...
Because every situation is different, but you guys just want to paint it as every man is like this, every woman's like this.
Chris, shut off the mic.
No, no, no.
Once again, you're doing what I told you before, which is moronic behavior.
You're attributing what we're saying back to your personal situation.
Yes.
Again.
I can tell from the way that you speak about your guy, the fact that he tried to commit to you and give you...
There's a lot of red flags here.
You don't know shit.
Oh, shit.
You're giving a lot of...
You've been telling on yourself the entire time.
I would have married him two years in, but then something changed.
There is literally...
It's so irrelevant.
That is so fucking irrelevant.
No, it's extremely irrelevant.
He didn't propose to me.
He didn't propose to me.
We talked about it.
He didn't propose to me.
Why is that what Chris said?
Oh, he got down on one knee and proposed.
He didn't do it.
You were like, no, he did.
No, I did not say that he did because he absolutely did not.
We talked about it.
We were like, hey, is this something we want to do?
And I was like, hey, why don't we just wait a little bit?
And he was like, that's probably a good idea.
But you just took it to a fucking other level.
Talk about you denied him.
You denied him his masculinity.
Wait, wait, pause.
Stop sworn at the fucking host, all right?
Shut the fuck out, all right?
Just try out some respect, all right?
Yeah, no, it's okay.
All right?
Even so, the point is, he spoke here to me.
- I thought we couldn't say that word.
- Yeah, I could fuck, yeah, we all, we all twitch, right? - Chris, Chris, stop.
- Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. - I thought we couldn't say that one.
- It's not that I'm invalidating your experience.
What I'm saying is that based on what you told me, I can conclusively say that you're with a lower status man or a guy that doesn't necessarily have frame.
You can't say that.
You literally cannot say that.
Let me explain to you hyper-masculine men because I know them and I know how they behave.
When a guy has options, hyper-masculine, etc., he doesn't let his girl dictate certain things.
Oh, I'd like to get married.
Ah!
I don't know.
I need more time.
Oh, fantastic.
I'm going to go get a girl that is ready for that.
They're going to just leave you.
That's the reality.
So the way that you speak about your man and the actions that you've demonstrated and the things that he's demonstrated from what you're telling us tells me that either A, you're the guy that is a little bit less masculine.
Maybe he doesn't have his money all the way together.
You run a relationship.
Maybe he runs a relationship.
I'm saying it could be a multitude of things, a combination thereof, or all of them all together.
I've heard of you that I don't want some hyper-masculine fucking testosterone trap as a relationship because you're masculine.
Yeah, because you're masculine.
Yeah, you know what?
I probably am.
I probably kind of am.
Yeah, you are.
Because you're masculine.
The point is that what I'm trying to say is that it's very clear to me.
Is it okay with you if we balance each other out?
Is that all right with you?
It doesn't work when a woman's in a leadership role is my point.
And you're clearly in the leadership role in this relationship.
That's also not true.
Just because they had a conversation.
That's not true.
They agreed on not getting married right away in a conversation.
That doesn't mean I leave shit.
It means we had a conversation.
Damn. Damn. Damn here.
It means we had a conversation and we agreed on something.
Why is that like communication?
Is that not a thing?
Once again, I'm gonna make this extremely clear.
Does your boyfriend pee sitting down?
I can tell.
When a woman is with a hyper-masculine guy that has her shit together, that girl isn't as assertive.
She isn't as combative.
She isn't as non-agreeable.
She doesn't talk as much.
She's more feminine.
She's more docile, etc.
When I see hyper-masculine women like you two, one of two things, nine out of ten times.
Either they're single or they're with a man who is less masculine.
Because a hyper-masculine man is not going to tolerate a masculine woman like yourself, being honest.
So, I already know how your man is based off of you because a woman is a spinning image of her man.
The more feminine and docile she is, typically the more hyper-masculine the man is.
You think Andrew Tate's girl's gonna run around talking like you?
Uh, no.
I really don't.
There you go.
Here's your answer.
For a lot of other reasons.
Andrew Tate has Andrew Tate money.
Not because she loves Andrew Tate.
Personally, he actually had a bunch of women before he was rich.
When he was a kickboxer broke, he still had women.
That's the importance of having frame.
Pimpin' is pimpin', baby.
So, that's just what it is.
So, like I said before, hyper-masculine women 9 out of 10 times?
Their man is probably feminine.
9 out of 10 times.
My man is definitely not feminine.
Like he said, 9 out of 10.
9 out of 10.
Good.
My man's the one.
Ultimately, we've realized something on this podcast about you and your man.
To you, sensible pussy side, your girl you're dating is having a medical turbulence.
Do you stay how long?
Oh, wow.
If your girl is having medical issues, you stay by her side because I guarantee if you were having medical issues, she would stay by yours.
She's a good girl.
She probably would not, but that's fine.
Jabrizy Podcast, ladies, it's simple.
Shut up and make your man some money.
That's okay for him to cheat.
I cheat on all of y'all in the room.
That's toxic.
I think this whole thing that we're telling the average guy, it's okay to cheat on your girl, that's just a recipe for disaster.
For the average guy.
If they make $50,000 a year, be like, hey, bitch, I'm a fucking alpha male.
That's never going to happen.
No.
You got to have a lot of leverage.
Anything else?
Nope.
Okay.
So...
Anything else you want to say that we're however misogynistic?
I think you're wrong in that assessment.
I take that back.
Not a misogynist.
Because you don't hate women, but you definitely think that you're way better than women and that women need you.
Here's the thing.
Men have to be better than women.
They should be better than women.
Men don't get attention and attraction from women unless they're superior to them.
Yes.
Period.
Sometimes.
Yeah, sure.
If we're talking in general, most generally.
Most of them want a man to solve them, stronger than them, more competent than them, more confident than them, more ambitious than them.
A woman isn't looking for an equal.
She's looking for a superior.
I'll take an equal.
Most women, right?
Is your guy equal to you?
Is your guy equal to you?
No, he's superior to me.
Oh!
What did I just say?
How is he feminine?
You're calling him feminine, but you're also saying he's superior to yourself.
Here's the thing.
He could be superior to you on paper, but he could still have feminine characteristics.
Yeah.
I don't know.
All I know is he's a good man.
That's all I know.
That's all I can tell you.
I'll just say this.
If I was with a girl, if I was dating a girl, I was dating fucking Sarah here with her small shirt.
And I was just like, hey, I want to make white babies with you.
And like, let's just fucking do this.
And I'm just going to start filling you up and we're going to make babies.
And she's like, well, actually, I was considering to do like...
You know, two years studying and blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, alright, bitch.
Well, congratulations.
You're a fucking single.
Like, no man worth his salt is going to be sitting there and be like, yeah, I'll just be relegated to the side.
He's a divorced man.
The divorced men think differently.
Let her talk.
Don't want to get married again.
Let her talk.
No, I just think that's very silly on a few different levels.
Sure, that's my opinion versus your opinion.
But for me personally, as a man, if I'm going to give a woman the ultimate fucking symbol of you actually give a shit, which is, here's her wedding ring, I love you, and I want to put children inside of you.
She's like, well...
Not ready yet.
She's allowed to make that decision for herself.
Sure, the girl who's like, she's allowed to make that, but a girl who's like, damn near head over heels and love you, she's gonna be like, yes.
Yes, I don't need a ring.
Like, yes.
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
That's what she's saying.
She doesn't need a ring.
They're not mutually exclusive, dude.
Like, she can love you so much, but also be like, baby, I'm not there yet.
But I love you.
We're there.
We're going there.
We're on our way.
But there's some things I want to get done first.
She's taking a pragmatic approach to her marriage, which is fantastic.
But that's typically how men move.
I've noticed women are only pragmatic like that when they don't like the guy that much.
When a woman is really emotional and really loves that guy, etc.
That's ridiculous.
Yes, because women are emotional lovers.
That's why I say when a woman cheats on you, it's the biggest betrayal because she has to cheat emotionally.
Men are the ones that are typically pragmatic when it comes to relationships.
Anytime a woman is pragmatic in a relationship, it's a big red flag to me that that guy doesn't check all her boxes.
So she has to be logically sound.
Because most women are not logically sad when it comes to relationships.
Most women, I get it.
Well, you clearly aren't either, because you made a bunch of mistakes when you were younger at your peak, didn't you?
So what?
I was a fucking kid, man.
She's 26.
I was a fucking kid, bro.
Arguably, I still am, and I'm a fucking boss now, so it doesn't matter.
You're a fucking boss.
You swear all the time, because you're a boss, right?
My point is that when women are pragmatic with their man, especially when it comes to marriage, it means she doesn't like him that much.
That's what I've come to realize.
That's a gigantic fucking rejection.
I have a question.
You said that you still have things to do before you get married.
So it's like, what is marriage going to hold you back from?
No, I feel like we haven't maybe experienced everything that you should experience before you commit your life to someone.
You're afraid.
In five years.
That's also probably part of it.
No, that's 100% of it.
You're afraid.
Listen, I'm 37.
I'm older than you.
I take it incredibly seriously.
I only want to be married once.
I only want to be married once.
It's too many people that are divorced.
I also...
Let me tell you something that a lot of American women do that a lot of you girls are not fucking recognizing that you're doing, okay?
A lot of your girls, like your incessant need to be domineering or controlling of the situation, what you're doing right now, is extremely emasculating.
And a guy like, I don't want to fucking deal with a girl who's going to have like a counterpoint for every fucking thing I got to say.
Like, I've already got my shit figured out.
I'm doing very well for myself.
I got a solid plan.
I don't need you fucking coming in here like a fucking paralegal and like, well, we've noticed a couple flaws here and this plan and this plan and this plan.
I don't want to hear that because you're going to be able to facilitate A successful relationship with a man by just being blindly loyal to the guy compared to like fucking nagging him.
And it's like across religious texts, across the fucking cultures.
No one wants opinionated women.
No.
In the Bible it says it's better for you to live on the fucking corner of a rooftop than with a nagging woman.
With a quarrelsome wife.
And at the same time, when you find a good woman, her value is more than rubies.
And that's the thing you ladies don't get.
It's up to you to become the greatest thing in a man's life or the worst fucking thing ever.
And it's up to you with your decisions and shit.
So, like, when we're trying to tell you, like, what we want as men, like, you gotta put on your shut up and fucking listen boots and just suit up and be like, okay, I'm here to fucking listen.
Because at the end of the day, you're the ones crying on TikTok after 30.
Like, I don't have a fucking man and this shit's happening!
And dudes are here just like, well, can you just, like...
Dial back on the ho shit just for a little bit.
Like, can you listen to me?
Can you understand these things?
And when you're just like constantly like jumping out the throat to be in control, jumping out the fucking throat to like control this and control that.
And like, it's like, whoa, one, like, first of all, I'm not gay.
I don't need this fucking masculine energy from a fucking woman.
Can you be a woman?
Can you be feminine?
And two, like, stop fucking try to control everything.
Like, I'm a man.
I got this shit.
Just be a woman.
And that's what the majority of men want nowadays.
And that's why guys now in America are just like, well, these bitches are too far gone, so I'm gonna fucking go to Colombia.
I'm gonna go to Venezuela.
I'm gonna go to fucking Japan.
I'm gonna go to Thailand.
I'm gonna go to Philippines.
Because, like, at least I can find a woman who's not gonna be, like, At my throat telling me how much I'm fucking incompetent shit honey I am.
Like every single thing, like anybody, parents, relationship, coworker, how many times have you been with a boss who's just like, you're doing this wrong, you're doing this wrong, you're doing this wrong, or a parent, or a relationship partner, or a father, or a mother, constantly criticizing you, just like, Jesus Christ, can I fucking do anything right?
And that's the reality for a lot of modern men in Western America and Canada and the whole nine years.
We're just like, bro, can you just fucking be nice to me and just give me some words of support for one second?
And that's just too hard.
Can I say something?
I used a lot tonight and I learned a lot.
Before tonight, I was like, thank you.
I didn't find out seriously what was my issue about my divorce.
I was like, trophy wise is...
I realized it like I have to be like basically come from my city to my family here in the States, different language, different environment before everything.
And he was married before with American.
So he was expecting the same dynamics.
We meet the solving problems, meet me, arrange the schedule, be me and my culture.
I'm not like that.
So why one of the biggest issues was like you didn't do anything?
I've done it the best I could.
But, for example, the system in school is different.
The language is different.
We were living in Atlanta before here, and nobody speaks Spanish in that moment.
And you say something, like, for women, we need Somebody is stronger than us or more muscular than us.
And I think I got on the point like I felt like, okay, nobody got me.
I got my kids.
I got him.
But who got my back?
What are you going to do?
He was taking care of you though, right?
Financially, yes.
So you didn't have your back.
But emotionally and affection, even my kids ask me like, what is that?
What that is not here?
Like when my kids were younger, I didn't realize it.
My kids were getting older and you know, My mom always like, to me, like, it's normal to excuse that.
I get it.
You could say business trip, but it's a lot of pleasure trips.
I can say that, but when the kids realize mom, you know, like, he's never around, you know?
But here's the thing.
I would say he had your back, and even now, when he's not with you, he has your back because he's paying you alimony and child support.
No, of course he does, and for example...
So, what do we want to say?
This is a problem, right?
Women think that how they feel is real.
I'm gonna say that again.
Women think how they feel is what's real.
You felt like he wasn't holding your back, but the reality is he was holding your back because you didn't have to pay for anything.
You lived a certain lifestyle.
Even now when he's not with you, he still has your back.
Yes, financially, but it's a lot of like...
So how you felt was incorrect.
No, like the thing is, was problems like dynamics and family problems when man's stand for woman's and more for like problems between family involved.
Like he used to step back, you know, and I was expecting somebody stand up for me.
You know what would happen if I interviewed him?
I guarantee he would probably say you're unappreciative, unhelpful.
Only cared about yourself.
I gave her the world, and she still complained and found something to bitch about.
And she's mad because I didn't see her two to three times a year.
Because here's the problem.
We have these conversations with women, but we never get the male perspective.
She says she only saw him for three months out of 12 months.
Oh, well.
So that's not five days.
Look, look, look.
But the thing she's making the biggest gripe about is two days.
Valentine's and her birthday.
Very special days.
I'll just say that.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I get it.
Look, this is what I tell women all the time.
Fuck your feelings.
Are you being taken care of?
Is there a roof over your head?
This is what I'm saying about what you say.
Fuck your feelings.
Yes, because your feelings lead you to making bad decisions.
She made a bad decision divorcing this guy.
I don't think so.
She was unhappy and feeling lonely.
She has to be intentional to find someone that truly makes her feelings.
Let her speak.
Let her speak on her feelings.
Let her talk.
Go ahead.
Seriously, I right now want to be my own.
I'm not looking for anyone.
Probably, I make the biggest mistake in my life.
Oh, you definitely do.
As I lose, I win.
Probably, I lose the money, I lose the ability, I lose the social, but I win a lot of things and I've been learning a lot of things.
But I don't think so he will say all that because I am very open and I always communicate and I always say and now we have a good relationship and it's a lot of like deep stints inside like he doesn't have a dad and I was guiding him to like with my kids and like you know it's deeper because I have three kids And it's when it starts to hurt is when is the family involved and the
family is five and we were four.
We went like doing stuff for photos and I was like, oh, but daddy has to work.
My daddy is not hearing your birthday, but daddy has to work.
And most of the time, to be honest, wasn't working.
So that was the thing.
I never, never, ever, like, control him.
He control whatever he wants.
But when my kids get involved and the kids was, like, looking for the father figure wasn't there, I was, like, when I really got hurt.
And, yeah, I know my feelings doesn't matter.
I make the biggest decision.
You made a permanent decision on a temporary problem.
Fuck your feelings, man.
Honestly, he's providing everything else, but again, you're like, oh no, blah, blah, blah.
I can defend myself.
I can say something.
But for example, I maybe make this bigger decision in that moment, but in the moment is what I needed.
What's in my need?
Maybe I will regret the whole rest of my life.
Are the kids better off with you guys together or separated like now?
You want the honest route?
Yeah, go ahead.
My kids are the most happy I've ever seen today.
Statistically speaking, two-parent households are the best.
They don't see the father of their children?
The thing is, like, now...
Yes or no?
They do.
How often?
The last time was like 10 days ago.
And he had them for three days.
But the thing is, like, when he had the kids, he had the kids.
I'm not there for the kids.
What does your husband do, or your ex-husband do for a living?
He's a salesman.
What's he selling?
Electronic stuff.
Okay.
Sorry.
That just sounds...
No, no, no.
He's Scottish.
Scottish?
Yes.
Okay, okay.
But the reality, I think what Myron is trying to say here is that from a pure objective standpoint, it would have been better for you to communicate with your husband at the time and be like, hey, listen, I feel neglected.
Oh.
In my defense, I done it for three years.
Okay.
And I'd say, like, in the end, like, this is no wake-up call.
I've been telling you, you're living behind.
This is like a family.
You're, like, if I get it, you're going to change your success with your friends, but it would be nice if you take us to go to your country.
We'd be like, okay, we went with your friends on vacation.
Let's go with the kids to somewhere.
But that never happens.
I will give it to you.
I rarely ever see breaking up the family as the best option.
We're only hearing your perspective.
I'd love to hear his side.
I believe in the concept of trust and verify.
Of course, it's always two versions.
He's probably like, yo, she's unappreciative.
I gave her the world.
And it's funny because even I think if you weren't getting the big alimony check and child support that you were probably getting from him, you probably would have rethought that divorce.
Can I tell you something?
No.
In my defense?
In my defense.
Here we go.
No.
Go ahead.
No, no, no, no.
In my kids' life, I refused to get a lot of things I was capable to get in the States because I didn't want to damage the company.
And I really, really, I don't, I'm not a gold digger.
And I didn't get divorced for him.
I didn't say, oh, I had a lot of money.
Seriously, like, I, if I don't have my kids, if I am alone, I'm going back to Sinaloa.
But because I have kids, I don't want to grow up in that environment.
We are in good communications and good terms, we can say, and good friends.
Yeah, because you could take more money from him if you wanted.
But I think, blindly, he knows I want.
Yeah.
Do you have something that you wanted to say before?
Oh, I was going to ask you, so do you think it's better for a woman to just stay in a relationship?
If she's being abused?
Basically, in different ways and emotions, just because of the money?
Go ahead, John.
No, no, go ahead.
That was the question.
Sorry, can you one more time?
Sorry.
I'm saying that do you guys think it's best that even if a woman is not emotionally fulfilled and she's not happy, you're barely seeing each other.
The kids are asking where their dad's at, but he's paying all the bills.
You think she should spend the rest of her life sticking around for that?
For the sake of the children?
I mean, look, the reality is America is crumbling right now, whether you girls want to agree with this or not.
There's a lot of strong single mothers.
No, single mother households are the bane of cultural existence.
I came from a single mother household, so I would love to comment.
I came from a single mother household.
Let me tell you something.
The amount of work that I had to fucking do to unfuck myself is incredibly difficult, and the average person would absolutely falter under that pressure.
That being said, when we're talking about enduring, because I'm getting viral, because all the fucking losers are attacking me right now, because I said that if there was a single instance of domestic violence, I said...
Try to endure to get over that one instance, right?
They're trying to spin it saying that, like, that I'm just saying, like, if a guy's, like, repeatedly beating a woman's fucking ass, you should endure.
And that's just not the case at all.
Obviously, that's a problem.
A problem's a problem.
And if it keeps on showing up, you gotta handle it, right?
So, I think I agree with Myron in this perspective that, like, right now, the bedrock of America's civilization is the family unit.
And It is absolutely being eroded away from under us.
Because we, as people living in America, we don't understand how fucking privileged we are to just sit around and be like, yeah, I'll just go out here and get this and make this job and have all these opportunities afforded to me when other countries don't fucking have that privilege.
And the backbone of keeping a country together is the family.
Okay?
And then when you have these women in the United States with 78% of all Divorces are initiated by women and you have the government subsidizing single family households via child support, alimony, welfare, and all these other programs.
What the fuck are you expecting to happen?
Whatever you subsidize.
As a government, as a country, is going to continue to grow.
Because you're subsidizing it.
People love free money.
Exactly.
And then so the reality is, when you're constantly saying, like, oh, you know, like, I met a strong single mother.
My mother was a strong single mother.
And I'll tell you, she absolutely was dying for a man to be there the entire time.
My mom was a single mother.
Three different dads for three different children.
Three failed fucking divorces.
Three failed relationships as well.
Okay.
And he was absolutely fucking hell growing up.
So I think what he's trying to say is that when objectively, and I understand your perspective, and I understand your particular situation is individual, and we can't give blanket statement recipes to everybody to fucking save their lives.
However...
Tearing up a family is not necessarily the best thing for the nation as well.
And this is why I think men and women fall apart.
Because a lot of guys will be like, this is the duty for the nation.
This is the duty for the cause, the military, the podcast, whatever.
A lot of men are willing to sacrifice.
Like right now, Chris is like, oh, I want to go home and eat pizza.
He's like, no, we got to fucking do the podcast right now.
You know what I mean?
We understand.
Yeah.
Five hours.
Stop fucking bitching, man.
Goddamn.
Yeah.
But a man would understand the cause behind his suffering.
And I think that's what Myers is going to say.
You need to understand raising those children up and participating as a family to raise these children.
Once you have kids, it's no longer about you.
It's about the kids.
And let's be honest here.
We all have met some fucking crazy people in America who are like, where were these people's parents?
Right?
And that's the problem now.
You have like a generation of broken people, namely women.
Sorry to mention it, but it is what it is.
Broken women raising children that are broken because single mother households for the boys and girls.
It's just not looking good.
Yeah, no.
It's raising femininity.
Go ahead.
Like you said about your mom, like what I think in my experience, I always see my mom always with us and I had daddy issues and I don't want to cry about it.
It's okay, baby.
So when...
So, what happened is when I see the same behavior, it's like, I don't want to repeat my mom and my dad history.
Right, exactly.
So, it's just like, okay, I'm like, and I talk and I talk and nothing happens.
So, it's when I start the decision, I don't want to continue it and I don't want to be my mom and my dad.
So, it's just what I am today.
And so, you got the divorce.
And it hurts, it hurts to hell.
Like, people say that, I'm better than ever because I'm divorced.
No, it hurts.
And so, say, look, you're different.
I feel different.
I'm living in the same house.
He left.
So, it's like, oh, wait, I'm alone.
It hurts.
Yeah.
But I think it's what I wanted.
I take the prize and I'm here today, you know, like, okay, what is next?
And I wake up every single day, be a mom.
They always want to have and let him be a dad with my kids when he has the kids.
And the kids complain, my dad is at that house, the dad rules.
Dad can do whatever they want.
My dad give us hot dogs and I don't, you dad can figure whatever he wants.
Made tacos.
Yeah.
Simply put, single mother households lead to murderers, felons, addicts, alcoholics, hookers, etc.
All the degenerates in the United States come from single mother households.
Most people that are in prison right now, convicted felons, they come from single mother households.
It just doesn't work when women in leadership roles or when they're single parents.
Chats?
Sure.
Yes, and guys, sorry to say, man, these girls actually have a life, more or less, like quotes, so chat to Mara, chat to the chat, chat to OMD, but guys, it's five hours long, so it's what it is, man.
Listen, man, I'm enjoying this.
Oh, yeah, no.
Let's go rubble and say the end work.
No, no, no.
Mercy never heard of it.
Is the Zurka Convo still happening?
Yes, Wednesday.
And then John goes, you've been on your way for five years.
You really need three more years to get there.
I know a cheater when I see one.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Trying to say you cheating.
Do you have anything you want to say back to him, Miss Boss?
No.
I'm like brain dead.
I'm so tired at this point.
I don't even care.
Fantastic.
Alright, your favorite part of the show?
Oh no, let's keep going.
Another hour.
You got more questions?
No, no, you got more questions?
Go ahead.
Questions?
Where's Sneeko?
Where's Sneeko?
Tell me Sneeko in the chat.
Oh, yeah.
Guys, real quick, just so y'all know, we're going to be doing a live show on June 2nd in Fort Lauderdale with Valuetainment.
We're going to do a live podcast there.
We've got three different ticket tiers.
We've got $100, $250, $500.
Scroll down, Chris.
And, yeah, go ahead and join in, guys.
You guys can meet us in person, sign some books, chat with us, everything else if you want to get in the VIP. So, yeah, man, watch a live show.
We're going to have some girls there.
We're going to do probably something similar to this, but live.
A lot of you guys like to watch the show a lot.
And then asking me, y'all want to come to the studio and watch a live show?
That ain't going to happen.
But if you want to watch us live, That's your best chance to do so.
We got book signings from Myron's book and as well photo shoots.
So come on over, guys.
Get a ticket and we'll meet you guys there in person June 2nd.
Get your fucking tickets right now.
We got almost 13k of you guys watching here on YouTube and then we got another 8,000 or so on Rumble.
So we got 20k of y'all watching.
Fucking jump on in.
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Last one here.
A man bring resource to the home, a woman bring peace.
A man not there for your emotion, but for resources and security.
Niggas sound like a caveman.
So we'll turn it to ladies.
We'll get your last thoughts and or questions or comments on the show or disagreements.
We'll turn it here, Miss Asia.
Go ahead.
I think I learned a lot today.
What'd you learn?
I think from my perspective, I'm 21, so I'm kind of young and I'm trying to figure out my daily life.
So I think today from you guys...
What was the one thing you learned?
The most important thing.
Like the type of girls you guys like?
I hate that the fucking truth.
Silent and obedient.
That's the type of girls that most guys like.
It's just that, like I said before, most guys can't be honest about what they want because they're going to get called an asshole or a misogynist.
Like, men are very similar, ladies, and we haven't changed really much at the beginning of time.
Sex, silence, and sandwiches.
Why is that?
They've been saying that for decades, right?
It's kind of funny, but it's true, too.
Like, men don't really ask for much.
All right, what about you?
I would say I didn't learn too much, but you definitely reassured me that men are liars.
That men can't be honest, you mean?
Yeah.
What was it that you learned that was something that you didn't know was true, I guess, since men are liars?
Well, I already knew that.
It was just like a reassurance.
What part was the reassurance?
Which one?
When you said that men are liars and they will lie to you.
Anything.
In general.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Alright, thanks so much.
Would it be fair to say that women can't handle the truth, though?
Sometimes.
I mean, did this panel not display that?
A bunch of girls had issues with the truth?
Look at Oprah, look at The View, Dr.
Phil, Dr.
Oz.
I'm just challenging your viewpoint, that's all.
Okay.
She's got to go ride that slingshot tomorrow.
Alright, what about you, Serbia?
I mean, I have nothing special to say.
Like, most of the things you guys said, I can agree and I can admit it's true.
What club are you going to?
I stopped partying, honestly.
Stopped the cap!
Stopped the cap!
Okay, I reduced.
Okay, question for you.
You can't even be honest when we got the proof that you'd be still going to our club.
Question for you.
I saw her too.
Where?
GameStop?
I'll be honest.
I'll be a thousand percent honest.
You're not really girlfriend material, man.
Based on the things that we've had.
You're not girlfriend material.
You're not girlfriend material, man.
Which is fine.
It's cool.
You know, be a boss, make your money, etc.
But I wouldn't say that you're girlfriend material.
By a special request, someone asks a question.
Link or girth?
Is that sniff or girth?
I don't know what it means.
I didn't grow up here.
This?
PBC or China?
Length or thickness?
Someone asked that special request.
Has to be...
has to be proportional.
What does that mean?
Not too fat, not too thin, not too long, not too short.
You know what I mean?
That's complicated.
What?
Sexual.
You've seen some?
A couple?
That is perfect.
That is...
What?
She talking about you, Fresh?
Not uncomfortable, not too much, not too little.
Just perfect.
It's perfect size.
At least for me.
Excellent.
Did you learn anything that going to a club and stuff like that, most guys aren't going to like that?
I don't care which label you're trying to put on.
I'm not bothered by the label you're putting about Cloud.
She's a very strong woman.
Who am I trying to prove what?
Not bad.
Well, if you want a man, you're going to want him to label you correctly, right?
But I didn't come here to look for a man.
There's 20,000 people watching that could have potentially...
And how many million or billion exist on the planet?
What was that?
How many what?
Million or billion guys are other than these 20,000.
Yeah, but of those billions of men, most of them are invisible to you.
And these 20,000 are all the top 10?
Billionaire, millionaire out of the 20,000.
Oh, she means money.
No, no, no.
Amazing looking, everything.
Oh, you're talking about a millionaire, whatever.
You're talking about a successful guy.
Yeah.
Out of that 20,000, how many are millionaires, billionaires?
No, or handsome, or good quality man.
Do you think you qualify for a high-value man?
For what?
Why?
No, I'm asking you.
Do you think you qualify for a high-value man?
Look.
I don't want to be triggered.
No, I don't want to.
Okay, next.
I don't care.
Next.
I don't care what you think about me.
Look, if you want to leave, you're more than welcome to get up and walk out.
But we're going to run the show at our cadence.
Alright?
If you're mindfucked and you want to leave, totally you can walk out.
Yeah.
Not mindfuck tired.
Yeah, just tired.
Well, feel free to get up and go to sleep.
Whenever we're talking about men sacrificing for the greater good, that's this podcast right now.
With all due respect, we're not going to run our podcast on your time.
So if you want to leave, you're more than welcome to leave.
Otherwise, be quiet unless spoken to.
Cute.
We don't need your interjections when we're asking a question and have a conversation.
You spoke a bunch earlier and no one said anything or interjected in what you were saying, right?
I mean the other girls.
Alright, Miss 18-year-old.
Well, no, I was going back to Serbia.
Do you think you qualify for a high-value guy?
Yes or no?
Why?
Okay, tell me how value in your mind.
Makes a good amount of money.
We'll say, in your case, because you already mentioned millionaire, we'll say a quarter million dollars or more.
250.
Has status.
People respect him.
He has a skill set that other people can admire.
And, yeah, we can say that.
I can if I want to.
I know I have potential because my parents are still together.
I was born and raised in a Christian family.
So, I have a good image to look up to.
When did your mom get married?
22.
You're 28 though.
You're six years late.
I know.
You're 28?
So do I have to wait when I'm 22 and to rush to look for a husband?
Your value was higher back then.
Can you force that?
No.
But your value was higher at 22.
Also, her mom was in a different time period with different type of men.
So she was a traditional woman.
Her mom was in a time period when relationships worked.
Exactly.
So, okay.
So a higher status guy, a high value guy, he's going to typically want a traditional woman in return because he's a traditional male a lot of the times.
Okay, that's fine.
But you're not a traditional woman, so is it a fair trade?
How do you know that?
You go to the club, you prefer drinking and hanging out with your friends over being with your man that you're in a relationship with.
Which was six years ago with a man that was...
Fresh saw you in the club like two weeks ago.
She was in the club with her guy.
Yeah, but right now, I'm 100% sure that I'm definitely ready to settle down.
And as soon as I will have a relationship, I can even delete my social media.
I don't have to go in the clubs.
I can close everything and be focused only on him.
I know that.
So that's what you would do?
I would do 100%.
I know I did that last year when I had a few months relationship that I literally...
What happened?
Why'd it end it?
I mean, he was in Chicago.
I'm here, so it's just...
Did you end it or did he end it?
Both ways.
He ended it.
Chicago?
Was he black?
No.
No?
Okay.
Serbia.
Yeah.
Signs off.
Derek Moneyberg.
Hey, look, man.
You're saying you...
You're not telling me what makes you qualify for a high-value guy then?
Because as I said, I have planted in my mind traditional values.
So I know what's my role in the household.
You know what I mean?
I may be modern in a way that I'm independent.
I like to look good or do my best.
I go outside.
You can't be a modern woman and also be traditional.
The two conflict with each other.
I can.
I believe I can.
I know it's weird or whatever, but I believe I can.
A traditional woman is not the things that a modern woman is.
They're the complete opposite.
Can you be a mix of both?
Can you have qualities from both?
No, because the two counteract each other.
What are the positive attributes of what a modern woman brings to the table?
If you're a modern woman, you're independent.
That's not a traditional woman.
A traditional woman is dependent on her man.
Okay, let me tell you this.
Is it possible if I'm married?
That if I have kids, that I would never put my career over my men's needs and of my kids' needs.
You gotta get married first, though.
That's good.
That's a W. You don't think I have tons of options to get married?
Not men that you actually want.
Not men that you want to be.
Why does they give you teddy bears that you don't care about?
Yeah.
That's like saying, like, me, like, well, a bunch of fat girls would've fucked me, you know?
I got Riz on the day, bro.
You cannot get married to anyone, you know?
Yeah, you can.
It's just a dumb decision.
Your life's barely started.
What do you mean?
What life are you talking about?
Like a life of endless dicks?
Like, what are you holding out for?
The average life, if you're getting married at 21 and locking down, like, you don't even know who you are at 21.
That's the best thing to do as a woman, is get a guy when you're young.
Why?
So she's been divorced by 25 with two kids and starting over?
No, because your ability to get the highest status man that you actually want is the highest chances when you're young and when you're at your peak.
If you want a man at his peak, why should he pick you when you're on your decline when you're older?
You think I'm older?
Yes.
I mean, 28 years old.
You're almost there.
At 30, the milk is sour.
No, but do you know how many men tell me that they cannot take seriously younger girls?
What did she say before that she learned?
Hold on.
What did she say, Miss Dairy Queen?
What did she say that she learned?
What did you learn about men today?
Men.
They lie.
They always lie.
How many of these guys have had sex with you?
They tell you what you want to hear so they can get into your good graces or smash you and then just leave.
How many of these guys have had sex with you and be like, you know what?
I've been just wanting to have a family with you.
What?
Say again, please.
How many of these guys have slept with you and then they're like, I really want to start a family with you.
I have, at least right now, at least five guys that want to marry me tomorrow and have kids with me.
And you had sex with all of them?
No.
Okay, so you missed my entire point.
No, but I understood that you were trying to say that there's no...
She went back to the Sims.
No, she understands what she did when she went back to the Sims that wanted her, that she's not attracted to.
Yeah.
Because if you wanted their babies, they'd be inside you.
Yeah.
Yeah, but do you know how many men are handsome, rich, kind, nice, respectful?
Yeah, they're on this podcast.
But you don't have chemistry.
You don't have chemistry.
How dare you?
You cannot deal with everybody.
How dare you?
I am rich and handsome.
All of you guys look good.
That's not the point, right?
Alright.
Because I'm not trying to offend you as you're trying to confuse me.
I'll tell you this.
The chances of you finding a high-value guy at 28 years old with some of your habits, I don't know.
It's going to be tough.
But I didn't come here to be judged or offended.
I don't get it.
Okay, well, good luck.
That's fine.
I'm just being honest with you.
Like, these are just not traits that guys look for.
May the force be with you.
Good luck.
It's not about you asking me.
It's about I'm just telling you off of what I've seen and how men typically date, especially men of a higher status, that you particularly want.
They have boundaries and standards on women.
Why is that men can't have standards on women?
You want a millionaire?
You think he's not going to have standards in return?
You just said it before a second ago.
Like, oh, how many of these guys are millionaires?
Okay, first of all, Everybody has space and freedom to choose what they want to choose.
I would never get mad or sad if he chooses somebody else over me, you know?
Are you triggered right now?
No.
We're talking.
How am I supposed to talk?
You talk good.
What about you?
What's your last thoughts, disagreements, questions?
I just, personally, I agree with everything.
Not everything, some things I kind of disagree on.
What do you disagree on?
I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say I disagree.
I would say that I do the things that you talk about, so probably, yeah, I kind of disagree, but I don't do it anymore.
Honestly, when we were talking about single women and how a single mother brings up the serial killer or whatever, it just makes me think that women might be better off not rushing into marriage and trying to have kids The problem is that they're having the kids out of wedlock.
Yeah, and it's like...
And whose fault is that?
Well, some of them are...
Well, some of them are the men.
Honestly, it's probably both.
It's 100% the women's fault.
The women not vetting, the men not stepping up to the plate.
Women control who gets birth in the United States 100%.
Men have zero reproductive rights, so it's the women's fault.
Well, back to what I was saying.
I think it's just better for women to just maybe not make their priority in life to get married and have kids.
That's right.
If most men are getting women pregnant and then within 5 or 10, 12 years, whatever, they move on to the next woman and they leave them behind with these kids that they now have to raise, that now have to...
Go to therapy or whatever.
It's just like maybe women...
That's right.
Fuck those kids.
Your assessment is incorrect though because...
Fuck them kids!
Your assessment is incorrect because we've come...
Here's the thing.
Women, most of them, and not all, but most of them get the most satisfaction and life satisfaction from having children and a family.
For them to have a family, they have to be with a man.
No, not necessarily.
They have to have sex with a man, but they don't have to be with a man.
To have an optimal family, a nuclear family, you must be with a man.
And preferably, you want to be in a marriage.
You don't want to have those kids out of wedlock.
So I think your advice is counterproductive to society being successful.
Because single mother households are not conducive to a good society.
No, which is why I don't think they should be having babies as much.
That's what I'm saying.
Having babies out of wedlock.
Even in wedlock, they still get divorced.
But it's the women that are initiating divorces.
Women need to stop initiating divorces.
So you're saying every woman should make prioritizing getting married and having a baby and most likely getting left to then raise the children on their own.
You're not going to get left.
Women are the ones leaving.
Men do leave.
Men leave for younger women all the time.
They just come home, take their shit and leave.
The 22-year-old they found at a bar.
The bar that you were at while I had to be home.
Stop.
The fact is this.
Women overwhelmingly initiate breakups and divorce.
70-80%.
No, they don't.
80%.
That's 4 out of 5.
Let's use math and logic here.
That's 4 out of 5.
If women are initiating most of the divorces, then it's the women that are leaving, not the men.
Men?
Okay, so you're saying 80% of women are leaving.
No, 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
Okay, so that means there's 20% of divorces initiated by men.
That's insignificant.
It still matters.
They both still do it.
Men do it and women do it.
Okay, you're making an argument for the minority.
Yeah, because you're making an argument that men...
Leave sometimes, and women leave sometimes.
That's the argument.
You're looking bad right now.
Just listen.
Listen, just let me break this down.
I'm not trying to attack you.
Let me just break this down.
Crazy.
Okay, your initial argument point is like, women, don't get with men, because eventually every man...
I'm not saying don't get with men.
Don't rush into having kids.
Sure.
Don't get with these guys because inevitably, you're saying inevitably.
She's a quintessential example of what I mean when I say women give terrible advice.
I wasn't giving advice.
I was saying, you asked me what I learned.
That's what I think.
You're saying that every guy between 5 to 12 years in relationship is irrefutably I wonder if we can look up how long most modern day marriages last.
How many years?
I don't know.
Can someone look that up?
Ask the women that are fucking terminating them.
Can someone look it up?
Can we look and see how long?
7 to 10.
Exactly.
So just imagine most women.
Okay, now that you know that women, just know the guy that you're planning on getting married, you got 7 to 10 years.
That's flawed.
80% of it, it's the woman leaving.
Okay, but still.
I'm not going to leave.
My husband.
Well, yeah, that's because you want to be dependent on a person.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with a woman wanting to be dependent on a man.
There's nothing wrong.
I'm saying that's your choice, but that's what you want to do.
I'm not going to find any reason to leave.
You're trying to downplay her.
You're downplaying her choice.
But going back to your statement, which you made, you said that majority of guys are inevitably going to leave between the 5 and 12 year mark.
7 to 10.
Sure, 7 to 10.
7 to 10 year mark.
You said 5 to 12.
I know, but the actual fact is 7 to 10.
That wasn't a fact.
He just said that.
But the point is, you're saying that this is an irrefutable truth.
And that's not the case.
He's saying that's a fact that most relationships end in 7 to 10 years.
Because of the woman initiating...
80% of the time and 20% of the time it's men.
So you got still.
So in 4 out of 5 marriages, the woman is leaving.
Okay, but in all of the marriages in 7 to 10 years, someone's leaving and the kids suffer.
Not all the marriages.
No, no, no.
That's not all the marriages.
First of all, time out, okay?
The divorce rate in India is 1%.
We're talking about America.
Right, and I'm telling you, it's not everybody.
The divorce rate in Vietnam is 7%.
The divorce rate in Japan is 30%.
So it's not everybody around the world.
This is an America-centric problem.
And the main reason it's a gigantic problem in America is because you have all these women buying all this fucking propaganda, hook, line, and sinker.
You don't need a man.
Men are this.
Men are shit.
You can do this without them.
And if you look at women who have elected and voted into power of the woman they respect, it's like Kim Kardashian, who's a literal whore, and Lizzo.
It's a fat whore.
Women are getting, as they keep saying, dog shit advice from people that are preaching ideologies.
Like, sorry, but what you're preaching.
Can you please state exactly what the advice was that I gave?
Because I didn't give any advice.
He asked me what I learned and I'm telling you what I learned.
You've been giving advice all night.
Okay, then tell me what advice that I gave.
What's one advice that I gave?
Uh, that she shouldn't have left.
I didn't say she shouldn't have left.
I think she should have left.
That her boyfriend wasn't whatever.
Everything you've been saying.
You just put both those things out of your ass.
I did not say either of those things.
What you did say was that it's possible for her to still find a guy.
But that's not advice.
I asked what bad advice I gave tonight.
What advice did I give?
Versus saying, hey, that's not...
Probable.
You basically reinforced her decision, which I would argue was a bad decision.
But it's not advice.
You're saying, I gave bad advice.
We're talking about me giving bad advice.
Reinforcing bad decisions is just as bad.
But it's not giving bad advice.
I would say the bad advice you gave was saying, like, inevitably every guy's, like...
That wasn't advice.
That was a statement that I've learned.
It's just a statement.
You just agreed to agree.
It was a statement you gave that was going to be taken as factual from the audience and then the audience would be like, Okay, this is potentially advice.
No, no, no.
It's not advice.
I'm literally just saying what I've learned tonight is that most relationships, whether it's taken apart by the woman 80% of the time or the man 20% of the time, those relationships are about 7 to 10 years long.
Why bother having children if it only lasts 7 to 10 years?
That's what I'm questioning from all the information that I learned.
I'm not giving advice.
That's what I'm questioning.
I heard about my mom.
She divorced my dad when I was born.
Should I have just fucking killed myself?
Did my mom not have taken care of me?
I'm going to make this very simple.
The reason why it's important is because women are the ones that derive pleasure from family and children.
That's why it's important.
That's why women should have kids because that is the centerpiece of their happiness.
Men acquire happiness from acquiring status and resources so that they can have a family.
Women acquire happiness from having children and a family.
And what I'm arguing is the reason why women need to put it at the forefront is because you have a finite amount of time to get a man when you're at your most beautiful.
Because by the time you're 32, you're not going to have the same options as when you were 22.
And so at 32, you'll probably be divorced with a kid that you now have to raise by yourself.
But you at least have children now and you can do what you did.
But now the child is traumatized and has to go to therapy.
You picked the right guy.
Now she has alimony.
She has child support.
She's living well.
It is what it is.
I believe she said she's alone in a big house.
And here's the other thing too.
If you don't have the kids when you're younger.
Look, look, look.
If you don't have the kids, you forfeit your ability to have them as you get older.
That's the point.
You can save your eggs.
No, you can't.
The success rate on that is abysmal.
And it costs like 20, 30 grand.
You can save eggs and do IVF, and there's also surrogates.
There's a lot of ways to have kids.
The failure rate is extremely high.
Once you become 30, a lot of your eggs are gone.
And then once you become 35...
It's literally a high-risk pregnancy.
It's called a geriatric pregnancy after fucking 35.
I mean, as old as you are, you save the eggs, most probably the kids have like autism, the age, Asperger, like more weakest out of your eggs.
Uh-oh!
Retard alert!
That's what's going to end up happening.
All right, what about you?
Last thoughts, questions, comments?
You're gonna get back with your husband now?
No.
Yes.
She's gonna find a better one.
No, no, no, no, no.
She ain't gonna find a better one, bro.
She found me.
She found me.
Oh, definitely not this one.
Okay, the question was for me.
No, like, I learned or affirmant to say, like, I always say, like, he wants to be wanted.
He wants to be needed.
I want he being wanted.
I get it like the one that was wrong was me.
And I see another perspective.
I see how I'm not around a lot of men.
And I've never been around a lot of men.
So I see a lot of...
You're doing a great job.
I see a lot of different...
Thoughts.
I never thought that.
Nobody told me the truth, like, front right away how you guys done it tonight.
Bueno.
Alright.
She landed it, Chris.
She landed it.
Bueno.
Even though I'm still like, what?
At the end, but it's fine.
What about you?
Last thoughts, questions, comments?
I pretty much agree with everything you said.
Oh, come on, bro.
No, I don't have anything that I, like, disagree with.
What's up with the threesome guy?
Yeah, what are you going to do with threesome guy?
What's up with the threesome guy?
Are you watching?
Are you going to do it?
Maybe.
I don't know.
Can you put it on the OnlyFans?
No, I'm not going to put it on the OnlyFans.
Might as well make money on it, right?
Seriously.
What about you?
Last thoughts, questions, comments, concerns?
I definitely agreed what you said not too long ago about the single mother homes and how a lot of broken men come from those homes.
I think that was actually a really powerful point.
Women too.
Broken women too.
That was actually a really powerful point.
I've said this before.
I feel like that's a root cause of a lot of the problems that we have.
I will say that you've probably just kind of given me a different perspective and maybe I'll think about things just a little bit differently.
A little bit differently in some areas.
You took the criticism like a champ.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not going to get my feelings or anything like that.
We love you.
We love you.
We have a love here.
And while there was a lot of shit that I was like, I was like, I hate you, bitch.
There was a lot of shit where I was like, fuck no, that's bullshit.
But there was a couple other things where I was like, alright, I never thought of it that way.
I'm always open to new perspectives, so I appreciate it.
Well, I mean, you're...
Hold on.
You're 26.
26, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I'll tell you this, man.
We've had plenty of girls on here that are in their 30s that are crying, wishing that they can turn back the clock.
negotiate for a higher status guy.
Then they end up in their 30s, 40s, etc.
They can no longer attract and retain that guy that they wanted from the beginning.
I mean, you could do whatever you want to do, but we're telling you guys literally how most guys think.
It's just that they're not going to be honest.
As she found out.
I mean, I feel like my mistake was in, because like you said, you were like, oh, most women, most women, You were literally like, I wasn't talking about you.
So I was like, you're right.
You're not talking about me.
I'm not most women, so it's all good.
So it's like, you know.
Who gave her a chill pill?
Somebody give her a chill pill?
I think it might be because it's 348, 47, 48.
I've completely dissociated.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying.
Another hour.
No, we got two girls and we're gone.
Let's start over.
You know I agree.
I like to come on here and agree to agree.
I always do.
What?
I'll probably come back and agree to agree some more.
Hold on.
Pick me, bro.
Yeah, I know.
It's because I'm a pick-me girl.
Hold on.
Are you going to take that from her?
No, I'm making fun of her.
Can we go to Moshi Moshi?
Yeah.
Me personally.
No, but you know, I love you guys.
I love the show.
And like I said on the first time I came on is I hated you guys when I first found you.
And then when I listened to your actual opinions and really understood and opened my mind, I changed my perspective a lot.
So, you know, that's why I could confidently say I'm not a pick me because I actually hated you guys and everything that you did have to say.
Surely you hated Myron, but I love Myron.
I love how you guys feel.
But yeah, happy to be here.
I'll be back.
I'll just say this because I noticed you said before, you know, hey, you're a pick me.
And I'm not using this to pick on you, but what I've noticed is that women use that term pick me girl to kind of like shame girls that have traits and or belief systems that adhere to what men typically want.
And I think it's not an intelligent move.
I think girls, if they want to find a man of some substance that they actually find attractive, you should be a pick me girl.
Because if you're a pick-me girl, what's going to end up happening?
All these other girls that want to be rambunctious and say, I don't need no man, blah, blah, blah.
They're going to stand out.
You're going to stand out.
You're going to get picked.
Yeah, you're going to be picked.
So I think women need to put their ego to the side and understand that a woman's ego will absolutely hurt you and keep you single versus it's a man that needs to have the ego.
Because when a man has an ego, he has confidence, he has ambition, he's out there striving for something.
Female ego destroys them.
Male ego, I would say it could be toxic to a degree.
But that's what women find attractive.
It also gives a feeling of, it seems like she's come here a few times and she's gotten to know you guys and as you build friendship with people, you tend to agree with them more and back them up more.
But you've also got to remember that she had the same mindset and ideology that she did.
She was like, damn, because it wasn't serving what she wanted, which was finding a man to take care of her.
I can understand for sure.
I mean, let her respond.
Alright, go ahead.
Yeah, I was like, some of the things that you said about what a man needs, I already knew most of them, but there were certain things that I was like, you know what, I'm going to take that into account when honestly, I'm not really, I'm very much like you, I'm not really looking for dating right now.
I can't even tell you the last time I let a guy take me on a date.
Literally, probably like six, eight, six, eight times.
And so I can understand that.
I can definitely understand her changing, but I also feel like it's definitely a fact of her coming on the show and becoming friends.
You just always agree with your friends a little bit more, too.
That's not, because if you would have listened to what I just said, it's I hated them way before I came on the show, and then I started listening to their show and their viewpoints.
And change that, and then I came on the show.
So, I already agreed with them the first time they came on the show.
So, I didn't come on the show arguing with them and not agreeing with their points, and then be like, oh, never mind, and then kept coming back.
So, you were already in agreement with them before you came on the show.
I don't know, like 50%, because that skimpy shirt you got on.
I don't know.
Yeah, but she did hate us before.
I did.
Yes, we know that.
What about you?
Um...
Would it be fair to say that you know now that your friends gave you terrible advice?
Dark shit advice.
Your story started all of this, that women give each other terrible advice.
Somewhat.
Somewhat.
I agree to an extent, but...
So you just threw away a year for no reason.
Okay.
I learned that you just kind of proved my mindset that all men are the same.
Sexy.
Exactly the same.
So now that you know most guys are very similar, are you going to change your behavior?
Nope.
Two scoops.
Give a 401k there.
Oh, man.
Yo, it's crazy because it's like, you know, as a guy, right, you got to know that women want a guy who's ambitious, got their shit together, whatever.
Men have to acclimate to what women want or else they don't get laid.
Women, on the other hand, they can kind of say, nope.
Bro, the fact that they're here in Miami by themselves says everything.
Haram.
These two.
Haram.
That's funny.
Spirit.
No.
I just wanted the beach to get away from Jersey.
Yeah, okay.
And I go to Hooters for the wings.
Wow.
I love your personality.
They're here to just go to the beach, right?
Yeah, okay.
Dude, I've come to realize, when girls come to Miami, it's to get a certain experience, which may or may not involve penis, which a lot of times involves penis, let's be honest with you.
Which is fine, which is cool, if they're single.
But come on, man, y'all don't act like y'all came here for the beach, bro.
There's plenty of nice beaches in Jersey!
No, there is not.
No, there isn't.
You've got Rhode Island right there.
You've got Connecticut right there.
You can go to Musquam.
You can go to Old Lime.
There's plenty of nice beaches in Connecticut and Rhode Island right up the street from you.
You can go to the beach in North Carolina, South Carolina.
Come on.
The water's not blue there, though.
I will give them that.
The water's not blue there, but you could wear it somewhere calm.
Water's green here.
They go to Connecticut.
It's clear.
It's clear.
Right up the road.
I mean, there's a lot of seaweed here, so it's green.
It's green.
It's called Everett Coast for a reason.
It's clear, though.
I can stand in the water and see my feet.
Anything else?
Slingshot?
No.
That's it.
Alright, cool.
Mercy, you never heard of it.
Thanks for the late show.
God bless FNF. Thank you.
W Show, appreciate y'all.
You guys better like the fucking video, man, because we gave y'all a hell of a one here.
What a banger, bro.
Five and a half hours?
John, where can people find you?
On the internet.
Cool.
Modern Life Dating on YouTube.
And then find me on Instagram, Hot Dude Life.
And then Twitter, Alpha Male MLD. Get angry.
Alpha Male MLD. And also, all the girls are tagged down below.
Yeah.
So if you want to find the girls down below.
Yeah, go ahead and send them a dick pic.
I'm sure they'd appreciate that.
And guys, go ahead and check us out.
Valuetainment, June 2nd, 2023.
In a few weeks, man.
So go ahead.
If you guys want to meet us in person, you better show up for Lauderdale.
Peace!
We're so far away.
I just ran.
I ran all night and day.
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