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April 20, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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Who's Pretty Privilege Goes Further? Men Or Women? HEATED DEBATE!
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I'm surprised you know what that was.
A lot of people don't even know what that is.
That's because most people are low IQ. But yeah, you drop blood basically.
Okay.
And then what's your highest education level completed?
I'm a freshman in college right now.
Okay.
Pursuing your bachelor's?
Yes.
What are you majoring in?
I'm trying to get my RN so I can do lip injections.
I'm majoring in health science.
Cool.
And then what's your status?
Like boyfriend?
Oh, single.
She belongs to the streets!
You live in Miami or just visiting?
It's my first time visiting.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Hey y'all, I'm Nibia.
Damn, that's Nibia on Instagram.
I'm one of the hottest bartenders in Miami.
Worked at all the hottest strip clubs that you heard of.
Okay, how old are you?
I am 25.
Cool.
Where are you originally from?
I'm from California, but I moved down here for work.
Okay, what part of California?
San Diego.
Okay.
Did you get out?
Out of curiosity, did you move here within like the past three years?
It's been five.
Five?
Did you get out because California is like the taxes or what was the reason specifically?
I did it because I came here visiting and then when I visited, I met a guy at the bar and he ended up being a manager at a strip club.
Alright, so you met a guy here?
Yeah, there you go.
Fair enough.
California sucks anyway.
Good move.
And you said you're a bartender.
What else?
What else?
I'm a bartender.
I have a sex store.
I sell sex toys.
And penis growth creams.
Wait, does it work?
It does.
I get it from Africa.
How do you know it works, though?
How do you know it works?
Because I got reviews.
I got the pictures.
Those are some, I guess, solid testimonials.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, and then what is your highest education level completed?
High school.
Okay, and then relationship status?
It's complicated.
Boy, did you move for this guy?
It's complicated.
Okay, translation.
It's one of the two.
Either A, he hasn't committed to you, but you want something more serious, or B, you don't know where he stands necessarily and if he's the best guy, so you're still betting options.
Which one is it?
Let's see.
It could be a combination of the two, but one of those two is going to be probably giving more.
So in other words, either you like him more than he likes you, and he's not ready to commit, or he likes you more than you like him, and you're seeing other options.
There you go.
I feel like it's the second one, but I'm just not ready.
Okay.
All right, then.
So he's ready for commitment, but you're not.
He's older than me.
He ready.
I know when y'all get to y'all 40s, y'all be ready.
He's there.
Damn, he moved her out here and everything, and he still can't get us to take a seriously.
All right.
What about you?
I'm Brazy Babe.
Brazy Babe on Instagram.
How old are you?
I'm 22 at the moment.
Where are you from?
Newark, New Jersey.
Oh, man.
Okay.
What do you do for it?
I'm a scripper.
Okay.
And this is my life.
High school equivalent because I'm a degenerate.
Okay.
So a GED, good enough degree?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then what's your relationship status?
I'm single and not taking applications.
Nope.
Translation, currently have a man right now that may or may not be a trick, but he might qualify for a boyfriend if he takes me seriously.
Not at all.
No?
No.
Nah.
I know her scenario.
Go ahead.
No.
Like you said, she's single.
Just not available.
Because of somebody.
No.
Emotional.
Say it.
What is it?
What's really going on?
Let's see if she's telling the truth.
Look at her chain.
Fresh.
Okay, okay, okay.
No, no, no.
She's good, she's good.
Wait, are they fresh?
Yo!
Alright, we done.
You're the one that wore the necklace.
I always wear it.
Every day of my life.
I shower with it.
So I'll just put, taken, maybe, I don't know.
I'm not.
You just said you're unavailable, though.
But I'm single.
Not looking.
Not looking.
Exactly.
There you go.
I am single and not looking.
Okay.
There you go.
If you say so.
The womanese is fantastic.
Alright, what about you?
My name is Sarah.
I'm 25.
I'm born and raised in Ohio.
I moved to Michigan in high school and I moved down to Miami like a year and a half ago.
Okay.
What do you do for them?
I do freelance work, so I pretty much find jobs on Upwork doing social media management.
I work freelance with an app called Cobble.
It's a planning app, so I create content for them.
I go to Miami restaurants, bars, events, and make reels.
Okay.
And then I also am a UGC creator, so I work with brands on TikTok and create ads for them.
Okay.
So you're the one that creates the content and then the ads go, excuse me, then the businesses buy it from you and go ahead and run it and pay for ads on social media.
Correct.
Yeah.
Okay.
And highest education level?
I have a bachelor's.
Cool.
And what?
Communications.
Okay.
Where'd you get it from?
University of Toledo in Ohio.
Okay.
All right.
And then what's your relationship status?
I am also single and like jazzy.
I want a husband.
Okay.
Nice.
Awesome.
That's good.
None wrong with that, ladies.
What about you?
I want a husband, too.
Hey, y'all!
What's your name?
I'm Courtney Goods.
Okay.
Courtney Goods.
I'm 30 from Indiana.
Wait, wait.
30?
I'm 30.
What part of Indiana are you from?
Gary, Indiana.
Oh, shit.
That's one of the most dangerous places in the United States, bro.
Yeah, Gary, Indiana is consistently in the top, like, 20.
Murder capital.
Yeah.
St.
Louis has it this year, but y'all are not too far behind.
Yeah, it's been a while.
We've been good.
Yeah, Gary and Deanna.
Wow.
Did someone, you guys run the metal detector on her when she came in here?
They did.
I never bust a gun.
You'll be careful, bro.
Be careful, mom.
I saw him putting some risk on her earlier.
Allegedly.
Shout out to Mo.
Alright, so you're from Gary, Indiana.
What do you do for?
I'm an entrepreneur, so I do a lot of things.
Tell us about the legal ones.
It's only one thing I ever did that wasn't illegal, but everything else is illegal.
What was it?
Murder?
No.
I felt a little on the set.
FBI, open up!
The honesty.
Yeah, so now I'm just straight and narrow.
I just, like, I promote parties.
I model.
I dance on a professional level and an exotic level.
I do music.
So, choreographed, dancing, and stripping?
Both?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I'm really flexible, so why not use it?
TMI. So you're a promoter, dancer, and what else?
A rapper.
You can rap too?
Yeah, I can rap.
We got here a verse.
Former trapper as well.
You got some right now?
Let's hear it.
Hold on.
That shit on beat.
Yeah.
Okay, go ahead.
Niggas playing on my downfall.
With my back against the wall, I still prevail on these pussy niggas.
Kill them dead, say fuck them all.
When they say kill them dead, hoping that I kill them really.
I'm on top, I'm really lonely.
Though I heard, they'll hurt.
Niggas proud, so I'd rather be an introvert.
write these rap words supposed to work and it was there for no judgment then i can't let a mother treat me like a burden and motherfuckers want to judge me but the lord got the verdict and the sermon name pressing on the confession started and i'm really hustling and not be working all right let's cut it Alright.
That was pretty good.
I don't take it serious.
It's just like a little shit.
I mean, I don't...
There ain't no rap like on the phone or nothing like that.
That was not that bad.
It wasn't.
It was good.
I wasn't trying.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to like...
People that are mute would love that.
All right.
Fantastic.
What's your highest education level completed?
I did some nursing school.
Wait, nurse?
Did you get your associate's degree?
I didn't.
Okay, so high school is the highest completed.
And then what's your relationship status?
She belongs to the streets.
It's complicated, right?
It's complicated, right?
I'm actually in a divorce of a relationship.
I'm divorced, too.
It was never a marriage, but it's a divorce going on.
It's really complicated.
It was like a serious relationship.
It started off real serious, and then they kind of started changing, so I changed, too.
You changed?
Where'd you meet him?
Jail?
Shit, they fell back.
No, I didn't go to jail ever.
For the record.
Never been to jail.
Never got caught.
Don't sit on camera.
Okay.
But it's just like, you know, once a man stops being a man to you, you do not have an obligation to stick around no matter how long y'all been together.
No more respect.
So I had to do the walk it out.
And that's just that.
Walk it out.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright, so I think you can only be divorced if you've been married, though.
So I guess it would just say a breakup that sucks because you guys were together for so long.
Why are you judging?
Because the definition of divorce is getting married.
It was deep.
It was deep.
But the definition of divorce is with marriage, though.
Y'all just broke up.
He's factual.
Remember, he's factual.
It was deep.
Was it more than seven years?
No.
Okay.
I'm just asking because, like, in Jersey, if you're married, if you're, like, lived together for more than seven years and you're not married, you're considered married.
Well, that's if it's a common law marriage.
But, I mean, a lot of states don't practice that.
And you don't have to necessarily file for a divorce with breaking up, even though they might look at it as a marriage.
What if he thought that I was his wifey?
But without a ring.
Unless it's legal, then it's not a divorce.
Divorce is essentially a dissolution of a marriage.
It was a divorce in a relationship.
It's a breakup.
He should have put a ring on it.
In layman's terms.
It's just a breakup.
So you actually got divorced, you said, right?
Yeah, I actually got married.
By the actual definition.
Who initiated the divorce, you or him?
Why?
That's rare.
I chose my job before.
When I came to Miami, when I was given that choice because of how I got the job and everything, he was like, no.
But I wanted financial freedom.
I wanted to be a bartender.
Also, you were married when you came out here.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, she said, fuck that nigga.
Okay.
I'm gone.
No, I asked him to move down here with me.
Because when you asked him, I was going to pay everything.
Wow.
He didn't want me to go.
Were you the breadwinner in the relationship?
Yeah.
You were?
Did it hurt you?
It's hard.
Yeah.
It's hard out here.
For real.
I mean, I don't want to sound like an asshole, but she hits all the numbers on the head.
African-American woman, educated, is the breadwinner in the relationship.
Statistically speaking, that's a 90% plus chance of initiating divorce and breaking.
Well, not initiating, but being divorced in general.
At least you asked them to move.
I guess you tried.
But, you know, You're in your early 20s.
I said, hey, I gotta get this bread.
Come on, let's go.
And he's like, nah, his family's there.
My family was there too.
I moved my family down.
My family said yes.
He's the only one that said no.
If he had been the primary breadwinner and you didn't have to work, what if you stayed?
That's a boring life.
That's a boring life.
I can't.
He would have been happy.
I'm up now.
You should have stayed.
That's like my goal.
That's your goal?
Absolutely.
To not work?
To be a stay-at-home mother.
Yeah.
And work in the house.
I don't even know about that.
Being a mother is my goal.
I wouldn't say that.
I could be a stay-at-home mother.
Real quick, so I can take a poll at the table.
How many of you, if given the opportunity, would prefer to be a stay-at-home mother versus pursuing a career?
I just want to get a gauge here.
Oh, wow.
I would.
Because I'm not staying at home.
Everyone except for Ms.
Gary, Indiana?
I'm just being real.
I'm sorry.
I feel like that's so beautiful.
but you would be okay with being a stay at home mother do you understand what he's saying staying at home taking care of your kids taking care of the house no it doesn't mean you can't leave the house you can leave with the kids whoa whoa whoa whoa let me go ahead and define it for you So there's no confusion here.
Stay at home mother means you're at home.
He's at work.
He's a predominant bill payer.
You may or may not have some side gig that makes some bullshit money and you can buy some things here and there.
However, most of your living expenses, if not all, are taken care of by the man.
And you might make a little bit of money on the side.
But you pay no majority of the bills.
Now that you understand the definition, who wants that?
Raise your hands.
That depends on the man.
But yes, I guess you could say that it depends on the man.
But the point is, is you guys would take that?
Everybody pretty much?
Yes.
Okay.
Only one person says no.
Okay.
I don't want to stay at home, mom.
You want to be a career woman?
CEO? I do.
I want to be able to vacation, work, whatever I want to do.
I mean, you're 30, so figure it out.
Okay.
Okay, Chris.
And then for you, you said your relationship is complicated or single, I guess?
Divorced.
Me?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm definitely single.
Like, I'm not in between nothing.
Oh, no.
We can tell.
Very strong.
What about you?
My name is Jimena.
I was raised in Mexico.
Wait, your name is human?
Jimena.
Wait, can you say it?
What?
Can you say my name right?
Ooh.
What is this?
Destiny's Child?
I guess that song must have been in Mexico just now or something.
Alright, hold it.
You're what?
18.
You said you're from Mexico, part of Mexico?
Guadalajara, Jalisco.
A lot of methamphetamine is made there.
I really would like to see you trying to say that.
Please.
She on you.
Okay, so Guadalajara and then what do you do for it?
I do social media for now.
Okay.
Do you do something similar to her where you help businesses?
No, I'm an influencer.
You're an influencer.
You do post then?
Yeah, I post on TikTok, Instagram, make money from there.
What kind of content do you make?
Lip-syncing basically.
You can sing?
Lip-syncing like You know like Like karaoke I love karaoke Did you finish high school?
Yes, I did.
And then what's your relationship stand?
I'm single.
I'm living life.
She's 18, y'all.
And then what about you?
My name is Kim.
Welcome back.
I'm a teen.
I resell vintage clothing.
And you're from where?
Miami?
Broward County.
Broward County.
Okay, and then you said you resell vintage clothing?
I do.
Okay.
And highest education level is high school?
Correct.
Relationship status?
I like someone.
Okay.
So I'll say complicated, I guess, or something.
All right.
All right, cool.
So guys, I'll hit the chats real quick.
We already got 13,000 y'all watching right now live.
So go ahead and do me a favor.
Well, that's only on YouTube.
I don't know how many over back on Rumble.
Let's check.
So go ahead and like the video, subscribe to the channel.
Mo will tell me on the side.
Mo, just let me know what to talk about.
Jamar 16.
Have you ever cheated?
If so, what telltale signs did the guy miss that would have given it away?
If not, name a sign to look for.
Keep it educational.
Okay.
Ladies, what are telltale signs that a girl is cheating?
We'll go around the table on this one quickly.
We can start right here with Kim.
Go ahead.
If you had a brother, what tip would you tell him to look out for if you had a girlfriend that she might be unfaithful?
Cheating.
I would say she's always out, like, at parties and stuff like that.
How do you know?
I have a brother.
What about you?
I will definitely say hiding her phone.
That's what you do.
Cool.
Hiding her phone from his sight when he's around.
Okay.
What about you?
In my case, I mean, I'mma tell you.
You just tell me straight up I'm fucking other dudes?
Why I gotta be a fuck?
I feel like niggas get mad over dating.
So you just get blowjobs?
No.
I date.
But I'm just saying, like, if I want to date...
So you also straight up tell your guy, like, I'm going out with another dude?
I mean, at that point, it should be over.
Like, yeah.
At that point, I'm breaking up with you.
Well, let's be honest here.
A lot of guys can't take hints.
So...
No, I tell them, like, yeah.
Straight up?
You gotta be honest.
Damn, you a savage.
So you initiate all the breakups?
No, I haven't.
I was like the dumb one in a relationship for a really long time.
Okay, so you never...
Okay, the last divorce that you were talking about before, who initiated that breakup?
Me.
So you're honest with him?
You told him, hey, I want to see other people, I don't like you anymore?
Yeah.
Was that the first guy you were honest with?
In a relationship, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
She's honest.
I mean, brutally honest.
So would it be fair to say that if she goes on another date, she's cheating, even though that's very obvious?
Okay.
What about you?
I agree with the phone.
Hiding the phone.
All right.
Give us something new, though.
Something different.
Yeah.
Something spicy.
Yeah.
The guys are trying to learn here.
Oh, my God.
Don't help it.
What do you do for a living?
Oh, social media.
In the DMs.
If they're DMing a lot on Instagram.
Okay.
Swiping up to people's stories.
Not the heart.
Okay.
Yeah, the little heart eye emoji, the fire emoji.
Okay.
There you go.
I don't even think you can swipe up anymore, but we'll take it.
It's fine.
What about you?
I feel like just being outside a lot and very friendly and Can you describe outside specifically?
Because you could be outside of a grocery store all the time.
Very much so true.
Outside as in, like, you're going out with promoters in Miami.
You know, like...
Red flag.
Promoters, huh?
Oh, yeah.
Those would be the worst.
Okay.
So going outside, and when you say outside, namely nightclubs, establishments where alcohol is served.
If you're a girl and you're dating my little brother and I see you at Booby Trap and my little brother is not with you, I will for sure be telling him.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Do you think a man should tolerate a girl that likes to go to the club a lot?
I feel like if he also likes going to the club a lot, cool, but if he's not...
No, but he doesn't.
So his girl shouldn't be at the club at all?
No.
If he doesn't.
Okay.
That's fair.
What about you?
Alright, I have three brothers.
I'm the only girl.
Okay.
So the red flag that I would tell him if...
If I'm out and I don't pick up my phone or I don't text back.
Okay.
Not being prompt about responding?
Yeah.
Okay.
Then that's cheating.
You're cheating.
There's a reason you ain't picking up the phone.
Okay.
Somebody's in your face, a guy behind you, and you don't want him to see hubby calling on the phone.
That's it.
Okay.
What are the other ones?
Oh, I thought you had multiple.
That was just the one?
No, no, no.
That's the main one.
That's number one.
I have three brothers.
Okay.
Fair enough.
What about you?
I would say distance.
Can you clarify that?
Like, If, in a period of your relationship, you were all about the person, like, wanting physical affection all the time, and then, after a while, you start getting distant, like, you don't want to kiss, like, you don't want to sleep together, you don't want to, you know...
No physical intimacy?
Yeah.
Especially when it was there before?
When it started there before, and then it wasn't there.
And that leads to, I need space, eventually.
Or we need to take a break.
Would it be fair to say, I always have to say the quote, a woman can't serve two masters.
Do you think that pretty much a telltale sign a girl doesn't like you anymore is that she's not being physically intimate with you anymore?
Yeah, absolutely.
Versus a man can do it, but a woman has difficulty doing that?
Or if you're the one that's always asking.
We don't even initiate it.
We don't even...
Because men are able to, like, smash another girl.
Okay, I'm gonna go smash my girl now.
But, like, with women, I've noticed they can't really do that.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I know that's kind of, like, a modern answer, but when she's not posting him on social media...
Someone got their third eye open.
Yeah, she knows the truth.
And my second one is doesn't have...
Her phone password.
Because I would willingly give up my phone password.
Okay.
Really?
Absolutely.
I did.
I'm very loyal.
I'm a Leo.
I'm too loyal.
I'm a Leo too.
Yeah, me too.
I'm too loyal, but none of them.
That's what y'all say now, man.
Okay, so you think a red flag is her not having her phone completely open to the guy?
Absolutely.
Alright, what about you?
I feel like dudes are real sensitive.
So, if I start name dropping like other dudes, like this dude talking to me, he want me, he on my top, that means I'm cheating on you.
So if a girl is naming other opportunities given to her, she's cheating?
Yeah.
Basically, it's a threat.
Right.
Do you think that's disrespectful?
It is disrespectful, but hey.
So you think that's dropping a hint?
Yeah, I'm letting you know.
What would you do if your brother came to you and said, hey, this girl that I'm seeing, we've been together for two years, I really love her, but she keeps mentioning this fucking guy at work all the time.
What would you tell him?
Oh...
Different when the shoe's another foot on.
That's her work husband.
For real, like, okay, she...
What would you advise him?
I would advise him to let that hoe go.
Okay.
Immediately break up?
Yeah.
Why?
Because she's interested, obviously, her emotions are towards somebody else.
She putting her effort into somebody else, it's clear.
Okay.
Can you give us a phrase that kind of, like, makes that real?
For example, an example of what a girl would say, in that sense?
A phrase?
He said one earlier, but could you say one?
To prove your point?
To prove my point?
I don't know.
You said it.
I said it.
You don't know?
No.
Alright, cool.
Nevermind.
Alright, chats?
So, before I get on, guys, I already got 13,000 plus y'all in here.
So, Chris, call it.
What should we do?
20.
20 enough from this point forward?
Okay, cool.
I got a topic at hand, so I'm going to hit the topic and then we can go back to the chats.
So, ladies, and we're going to start hearing their work our way, alright?
Who lives an easier life In 2023, in the United States and the developed world in general.
And this, to clarify here, I'm talking about opportunity, making money, dating, certain situations being open to them, whatever it may be.
Getting ahead in life in general.
Who lives an easier life?
Men.
Men make way more money.
Okay, tell me who and then why.
So you're saying men because they make more money?
Men because they make more money.
So women are chasing the men who make more money.
That's what they want.
Women want a stable life.
So they're chasing after the men who have money.
Remember, the question, again ladies, listen very closely to the question.
Who lives an easier life?
The argument you just made was for money.
However, it's not easy to earn money.
We know this.
Right.
So, just want to make sure you guys fully understand the question.
If that's still an answer, that's cool.
Only if you're a scammer, though.
We'll get to you.
Don't worry.
If you still stand on that answer, that's fine.
I just want to make sure you understand the question properly.
Who lives an easier life with everything?
Opportunity, dating, making money, education, social situations, totality of the circumstances.
Which one?
I feel like women.
Why?
Did you change your answer?
I did change my answer.
Okay, why?
Well, if you're a desirable woman, your life is easy.
Explain what desirable is.
Shit.
A woman that a man wants, that men want in general, like beautiful, easy to deal with, easy to talk to, just easy to deal with.
Men want a woman that's easy to deal with.
They don't want a woman that's going to argue with them.
They don't want a woman that's pretty, of course, to have on their arm.
So you're saying for women, it's easier for women only if they're desirable?
Not necessarily.
What do you mean by desirable?
Desirable.
What do you know?
Because I asked you, I said, who's easier?
And then you said women, under the caveat that they're desirable.
It depends on a man what he desires.
Who has an easier life?
Women or men?
Staying in preschool.
Kindergarten.
Kindergarten.
In general.
Oh, shit.
In general, who has an easier life?
Men or women?
You're saying women.
But then you said under the context that they're desirable.
Bruh!
Who has an easier life?
Nobody has an easy life.
You have to pick one gender who has an easier existence in the developed world.
Now you're changing it again.
Why men?
Just tell me why.
Because men make more money.
Men can do whatever they want to do.
That's not true.
He just said money was hard to make.
Money is hard to make?
For men?
For women now, it is.
For women!
So you're saying men because they make more money?
Yeah.
Let's leave it at men.
Alright, what about you?
What do you think lives an easier life in the developed first world from a holistic standpoint?
Men or women and why?
I feel like it could go both ways.
But if you had to choose one.
Women.
Because they can be fugly and just post to OnlyFans and still get sad men on their line and they can make money and be an independent woman.
And, yeah, I don't think you really have to bring much to the table other than having a pussy and some tits these days.
Okay.
Damn, honesty.
Goddamn.
Okay.
Alright.
Who do you think lives an easier life?
So do we have to choose a gender?
I was gonna say...
Yeah, gender.
Okay.
I would say women.
Okay.
Why?
I mean, I feel like there's pretty privilege.
There's things there for women that there aren't...
I mean, there is pretty privilege for guys, I guess.
Absolutely.
But...
I don't know.
I feel like women can just...
We're going to talk about pretty privilege in a little bit, but you think it's because pretty privilege is why?
That's your predominant reason why women have these?
No, I just feel like women have this touch that men don't have.
I don't know.
We can figure it out.
At the end of the day, we figure it out.
Can you define figuring it out?
I don't know.
Like she said, any woman can start an OnlyFans and make some money.
Like, not any guy can really do that.
But I don't know how to put it.
I mean, I guess pretty privileged, but I think all women can kind of get it if they want it.
And there's just...
women have a way of talking their way into things, even if there's no other option.
Persuasion.
Let me clarify, because you're kind of all over the place.
I am, because I had a different answer at first.
I didn't know we were choosing genders.
Yeah.
What was your original answer?
The people who have it easier in life.
I was going to say people who were raised That started off with money.
Their parents started off with money.
But that was going to be my answer.
We're talking strictly gender, not social class or family.
We're talking strictly gender.
So you're saying women because of pretty privilege.
Pretty much.
Pussy privilege.
Pussy privilege.
What about you?
If I had to put it It will be women, dogs, gays, then men.
Women, dogs, gays, then men.
Okay.
Women, because we can just put on some heels, put on some damn near naked, and we're going to make three easy money.
There you go.
Make easy money.
Okay.
All right.
So, as far as in dogs, You get chosen to the right family.
You good.
You straight.
You got nothing else.
That's very true.
Now gays.
Gays.
As you can see now, the new generation, It's definitely built to protect them.
You know what I'm saying?
Is that the best way to put it?
Haram!
I like it.
I like it.
I mean, it's fine.
Men is last place because you guys have to always be the providers.
Always.
Okay.
They gotta make the money.
They gotta do this.
They gotta do that.
Provide the dick.
Nobody wants them.
That is true.
It's so hard.
They gotta pay for love.
And it's sad.
Because I got three brothers.
I've seen them go on dates where they spent $800 on a girl and didn't get no pussy.
Then they went on another date.
They bought them like something for $300.
Stupid.
$40 here again?
But I got the money.
And the girls don't come up.
It's sad.
Not only are you saying women have it easier, but you're able to actually put the order of importance here.
You're saying dogs, gays, and then heterosexual men.
You have it easy.
That's a very good point.
Order of difficulty.
Wow, what a creative answer.
Would it be fair to say that watching your brother struggle is what influenced that answer?
Yeah.
Okay.
If I didn't have it, I probably would have...
You would have not known?
I would have not known.
It's sad.
Okay.
That's a good take.
Interesting.
Okay.
Okay, what about you?
Who do you think has it easier, men or women in the developed world, and why?
I think women have it easier because we're prioritized by the predominant race, which is men.
You mean the predominant gender?
My bad.
The predominant gender, which is men.
So, yeah, I think it's women.
Okay, cool.
Example.
Wait, so just so I make sure I have this right, you're saying women because they're prioritized by men.
Yeah.
Can you explain in which ways women are prioritized by men?
Have we all watched the Titanic?
Okay.
Okay.
When the ship was sinking, they said all women and children go first.
Women will always be prioritized by men.
Okay.
That's good.
Anything else?
You were going to say something else before I... No, that was it.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you?
I agree.
Women.
Why?
And I think women, because I think women have a good way of manipulating men into getting what they want.
And especially in big cities like this or New York, There is a lot of money around, and women are always going to be in clubs for free, drinking for free, at nice dinners for free.
They're not paying for anything.
Women are flown out to places and get to experience things that men would never experience for free.
You don't often see girls flying guys out to come experience things like that.
That's what I was trying to say, too.
Women can...
Women have such an easy way of making money.
Predominantly, yes, men should be breadwinners.
But I mean, with platforms like OnlyFans and if anyone's familiar with Fandom Twitter and things like that, girls are making six figures in a month for nothing.
What about you?
Who do you think has the easier men or women and why?
I think men has the easier.
Okay, why?
Because they have all the leadership roles in the world.
They're making all the money.
I agree.
And they don't really have to do too much but be smart and be...
Be a man.
Be smart.
And dress nice.
Be smart easily.
And dress with a suit on and like...
Well, let me ask you a question.
Is it easy to be competent and make a lot of money?
Not for women.
Because men really don't give a fuck how smart you are.
So that's easy though.
Okay, so a woman that...
Wait, hold on, hold on.
The question Was who lives an easier life?
Men or women?
You said men and then you went ahead and said it's because men are smarter and make more money or their leadership roles.
They get better jobs, better roles, better everything.
Fair enough, but wouldn't it be fair to say that they have to earn that and work towards that competence?
Yeah, but if we earn it the same way as a man earn it, we might not get the same position as a man.
They don't always have to earn it.
Okay, so let's use your scenario.
Do you think If you applied for a job with a man, both of you guys are equally competent, equal education, equal job experience, equal degree, all factors being equal, who do you think has a higher likelihood of getting that job?
The man.
You really think so?
I do.
Look at our presidents.
The man.
I feel like that would kind of depend on like...
Well, hold on.
You're saying you think the man would get the job over you?
Yeah.
Even though you're an African-American female and affirmative action is a thing?
I'm a minority.
Hold on.
So we ain't even gonna throw that in.
Because that's even bad.
Even if it was against a black man, the black man gonna get the leadership on another level.
Actually, that works in your favor, you being black.
And a minority.
Why?
Because the person, the program or the company we work for have to hire 3% black people to be like...
What?
What are you saying?
I'm saying you being a black woman that needs a job will fit their criteria for the most part.
So you would actually get a job before me.
Why?
I just told you.
Because you're a black queen.
What criteria does it fit?
You're a black queen.
I mean elaborate.
You're a black queen.
For your opinion.
So, it's because many workplaces, whether it's corporate, law enforcement, maybe jobs that have been historically, masculinely dominated, they want diversity.
So, since they want diversity, they look for clients, or excuse me, applicants, that can check as many boxes as possible so they can say that they have a diversified workplace.
They have to, baby.
Okay.
But the point is, is that that still gives you an advantage over the men.
Yeah.
Going back to that scenario I gave you, if all things are equal between the two individuals, you have a higher likelihood of getting the job because you're a female and you're black, which checks two boxes for the business.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Two words.
Affirmative action.
Are you aware that many businesses and or government employers, etc., have specific diversity hiring announcements that are not open to Caucasian males?
Do you know that many individuals that say on government jobs are mostly older men?
Which is exactly why they have diversity hires to bring women on.
And once they have those.
And colored women.
But once they have the blacks or whatever, they're done.
Not really.
They're always continuously doing diversity hires.
I disagree.
I really disagree.
And I'm from how many black women do you actually see in leadership positions between the ones that you might see?
Hold on, hold on.
But the thing is, is that when you get a leadership position, you typically earned it through merit.
What I'm saying is that you get the opportunity.
You're making an argument for equality of outcome.
I'm making an argument for equality of opportunity.
You get the opportunity if you were to compete with a man, but you might not necessarily get the same outcome because you have to still perform once you get the job.
My argument is that you have a higher likelihood of getting the job.
I don't.
Especially in the nursing field.
I mean, ladies, with all due respect, you're both incorrect.
They've done studies on this and they found that if you are an African-American woman and you apply for a job and let's say there's a qualified applicant that has the same exact metrics as you and he's a white male, statistically speaking, you are far more likely to get the job.
That's a fact.
That's not my opinion.
Which.org is this?
Wait, didn't you not pass college though?
Who?
You.
I dropped out because I ran out of time.
That's why you didn't get hired.
No, it's not why I didn't get hired.
It's because I got hired for a whole bunch of other smaller positions easily.
Have you been an entrepreneur your entire life?
Yes.
Okay, so how are you going to speak to the hiring practices of other businesses, corporations, and the government when you've never even been through an application process?
Though I'm not trying to.
But the type of jobs that I did apply for, guess who was in the leadership positions?
Even though it was an entry level.
Even though the men only have a high school diploma.
It could be Amazon.
It could be whatever.
It's always men and leadership.
From your experience, you're going to say that we have data shows it's the opposite.
Are you aware of the fact that your personal experiences might not necessarily reflect reality?
You've always been an entrepreneur, which means since you've always been an entrepreneur, you've been able to work for yourself and you didn't have to be subject to a company hiring you based off of your qualifications.
But what I am telling you is that the government does this, corporations does this, etc.
The same company that I'm speaking of.
Everything I'm speaking of is from experience.
And you got the job, didn't you?
Yeah, and I actually done clinicals.
I've been in school for five years.
You do realize that if you get a job by default, that means you beat other people out?
What if they have a whole line of employees that they can...
Weren't we talking about leadership positions?
That's what we were talking about.
But we're talking about, like, entry level from, like, high school.
You know, the $15, $16 an hour.
That's what he's talking about.
I think they're just making a statistical point.
But I haven't had a real job, though.
So that's what I'm talking about.
What are you talking about?
I'm telling you, when you picked up that job at Amazon, by default, you had to beat out other applicants to get the job.
And what I'm saying is that can you stop interrupting while I'm making a point?
That's the problem.
We're talking past each other because you're not listening to understand.
You're listening to just talk.
Okay?
This is not my opinion.
This is a fact.
If you get a job, that means you, by default, beat out other people that applied for that job.
You understand?
Now, when you beat those people up for that job, there's a bunch of reasons why you might have done it.
You might have been more qualified, might have had more education, might have had more experience, or...
You could have met a prerequisite of race or gender that the company is looking for.
I am saying, statistically speaking, if everything is equal, white male, black female, y'all apply for a job, you are ten times more likely to get the job over the white male, even if everything is equal because of affirmative action.
And I said no.
That is incorrect.
You do podcasts.
You're not in the real world either.
How do you know?
Prior to this, I was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations.
I did criminal investigations for well over a decade.
Also, I've worked with other federal agencies and I'm very well aware of how the government operates.
There's diversity hiring all over the place.
The FBI constantly does diversity hiring.
My agency did an entire Homeland Security Investigations.
They did an entire hiring process only for women.
Now, let's flip it around.
Could you imagine what would happen if they did an entire hiring process only for white men?
Okay.
Stop!
That's my point.
They would never allow that.
Can I ask you a question?
Based on what you just told me, what was your position at your job?
I just said it.
I mean, I don't know that shit.
Was you a president, a manager, or whatever?
What was your position at their job?
Or was you just an employee, a supervisor?
He was an agent.
Which is a high rank, right?
Nigga, he's doing research on the shit we're talking about right now.
The FBI. You can't be serious right now.
Okay, so this guy's an FBI. Not a police officer.
We're moving on.
You're in a high rank position.
We're moving on.
Are you black?
We're moving on.
I'm just asking.
I check a bunch of boxes.
I'm black, Middle Eastern, I speak Arabic.
These are all things that gave me an advantage when I applied over other individuals.
Are you in a higher position than other people at your job?
Other women at your job, are you in a higher position?
Listen, it's too early.
I'm just asking.
We're moving on.
You missed the entire point of the conversation.
Okay, so you're saying men because they have leadership roles and what else?
Are you back on me?
No, it is.
And it's a compliment, actually, because men do their job for it.
Okay.
You said it's easier for men because they have leadership roles and they're smarter.
Is that what it was?
No.
Why is it easier for men than them?
Because I said that they get the role before us.
They get the position before us.
Based on what?
Based on their ability of leading.
Anything else?
I mean...
That's it?
Because of leadership?
Yeah, y'all strong.
Y'all more poised.
We can't really speak up in a room without being demeaned by a man.
So yeah, we don't really get those leadership roles.
We don't really have the role to get it.
We don't have the stand to get it.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Okay, nowadays I feel like women.
Honestly, everyone can see that experience too.
I'm 18 years old and I'm making a lot of money.
And it's crazy because like my friends are like wow human like how the fuck do you do that?
Oh Posting bikini pictures posting this and that they like that men like that so they're dumb enough to buy So I can make sure I have this and understand it correctly or You're saying it's easier for women because women are able to earn a lot of money without tangible skills.
Yeah.
Nowadays, yes.
I wish I could say both.
I wish I could say both.
Because men nowadays, like you, you're doing podcasts, you're making a lot of money.
Men are doing OnlyFans too.
They're making money.
These TikTokers who are attractive.
But...
But realistically speaking, do you think men that are OnlyFans make as much money as women on OnlyFans?
No.
Honestly not.
Okay, so...
So you think it's easier for women because women are able to earn money without having skills?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you think men can earn money without skills?
No.
They could.
Is it probable?
It's K.O.
Mark.
If they got a big take.
It's...
Andrew Tui.
Hey.
Andrew Tui.
What's his name?
Andrew Tui, you said?
He's making money by selling girls.
He makes money by doing all these interviews, by just being the face.
You know what Andrew Tate did before he became an influencer?
Yeah, there's a whole thing.
Hold on, let's see if she answers it.
No.
But I knew him by social media.
Okay, but do you know what he did prior to blowing up on social media?
No.
He was a four-time kickboxing champion.
He had scaled up a business of camming in Romania.
He had a bunch of different women working for him, up to between 75 to 90 plus girls at the height of the situation.
Internet marketing, etc.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that that takes a good amount of skill to manage all those people and run a business?
And be a four-time kickboxing world champion?
Yeah, that makes sense.
There's people who just start from YouTube and grows.
And they're millionaires right now.
Yeah, but then...
That's a skill, yeah.
But it's a skill, ultimately.
Yeah, it's a skill, for the men at least.
So do you think women are able, like, do women have to have as much skills to make as much money?
I mean, you kind of admitted yourself a second ago.
Yeah, you just take pictures, bikinis.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
I mean, that's a skill too, you know?
Do you think a guy has the ability to take a picture in a swimsuit?
Do you think a guy has the same ability to take a picture in a swimsuit and make money?
They won't make as much as us.
So therefore, who has it easier?
Us.
Ta-da!
You got it!
Got it!
Okay.
Fantastic.
Great panel tonight.
What about you?
What about you?
I believe women were handed more opportunities day-to-day just because of being women.
It's not about pretty privilege.
It's women privilege.
That's right.
Do you think an ugly girl can still get opportunities given to her?
100%.
She'll be led into the club.
She'll still be given the same opportunities compared to a man.
Okay, so you don't think it's pretty privilege.
You think it's just straight-up female privilege.
100%.
Okay.
Alright, so let me ask you guys this.
Does pretty privilege exist, and who benefits from it more?
We'll start hearing that work our way.
Pretty privilege exists.
It's a simple one.
Women benefit from it more, given free things, given opportunities, given all these things.
Okay.
What about you?
Same thing.
Sorry.
I don't know how to say they were pretty privileges.
It's fine.
Yeah, we got it.
Okay, yeah.
It's a whole advantage for us, honestly, for everything and anything in this world.
Like, you can be pretty and have, like, some guy, like, you know, like, I like you and I have all this and I will give you the word.
Right.
That's how it works.
Okay.
Women.
Women.
That's simple.
Women.
Okay.
Pretty privilege does exist.
Yes, women benefit a lot from it, but I feel like it'll only take you so far.
Okay.
What about you?
I can't tell you how many times the guy behind me paid for my groceries.
Pretty privilege does exist.
Okay.
What grocery store do you go to?
Right!
Girl, you just gotta go in your booty shorts.
What about you?
Pretty privileges go for women because you can get saved at any time.
Pretty privilege definitely exists.
There was a time where I had really bad skin, like full of acne, and I could see the difference between the way I was treated like with that versus without.
And yeah, definitely pretty privilege exists.
There's a big difference.
Did you still get opportunities even when you were looking at your worst?
Very.
Rarely.
But you got them.
But I got them.
Yeah, just definitely not as often as I did when I cleared it up.
Okay.
But they still came.
Alright, what about you?
I do think, I know that Pretty Privilege exists, and I think that it's subjective.
I know men who are gorgeous, and women who aren't gorgeous, and the men have more riz online.
And I know a couple of them that are my friends who are dancers that are just...
Got all the hoes.
And, yeah, I think it exists if you're a beautiful man.
But, yeah, it goes both ways.
Probably women.
Okay.
What about you?
Pretty privileged.
And who does it benefit more?
Women.
Okay.
Now let me ask a question, ladies.
Let's assume you got an extremely handsome man and an extremely attractive woman.
Whose pretty privilege goes further with creating opportunity for that individual?
Hmm.
What was the question?
Are you paying attention?
Yeah, I am.
It just went over my head.
Stupid!
Okay, again.
Again.
What?
He's saying, if you take a very attractive man, handsome man, top tier guy, maybe in the top 1% of looks, 6'3", whatever, maybe a Chad, model, in good physical shape, Tyrone, and a very attractive woman, was just a female version, who would have more, I guess, opportunities, thanks to pretty privilege?
Women.
You still think females?
Okay.
A woman.
Why?
Because a man can want to fuck her.
Period.
Okay.
So it's not equal.
It's definitely not equal.
A handsome man is not the equivalent of a beautiful woman.
No, it's not.
Okay.
What about you?
I disagree.
I think it's subjective.
I think both men and women.
Because there's lots of women.
Me, I'm straight.
And I go crazy over beautiful men.
And...
Are you jumping in bed to have sex with them, though?
Absolutely not.
Okay, but a beautiful woman are men jumping?
Okay, if you put it like that, then, yeah, I guess women.
But it's still subjective.
It's still subjective.
Okay.
It depends on the opportunities.
It depends on the person.
It depends on which opportunities they're building.
But from an overall standpoint, if you took all things equal, extremely handsome man, extremely attractive woman, who benefits from that pretty privilege more?
I think it's subjective because some girls that are really beautiful are really dumb.
Do men care about intelligence?
I don't know.
I know men who do.
But do a majority of men prioritize?
Majority of men are dumb, I think.
That's not the question.
So no, I don't think that they care about intelligence.
So why would you use that as an angle?
Because there's women that do care.
There's people that do prioritize intelligence.
And spiritual hygiene.
Is that what they told you?
I like that.
Flip-flopping between the male and female.
Let's go through this one, two, three, four, five.
Okay?
I asked you, Okay, who, assuming both things are equal, you have a handsome man and a beautiful woman, alright?
Who experiences pretty privilege more?
You said it goes both ways.
I still believe it's subjective and it's both.
Okay, and then off of your own answer, because you said, oh, well, no one wants a dumb girl.
Spiritual happiness.
I didn't say no one wants to go.
I didn't say that.
You said the girl could be attractive and be stupid.
Correct.
And then I argued, do men care about intelligence?
And then you said, oh.
I said yes.
Really?
There are men who care about intelligence.
Absolutely.
If I lined up 100 men and I asked them, would you prefer a hot girl that's dumb or a smart girl that's average?
Those aren't the type of men that I engage with, so I wouldn't really know.
But that's not the question.
Okay.
And we're speaking generally here.
Generally, then probably not.
Would men prefer beauty or intelligence over a woman if given the choice?
Probably beauty.
Okay, so wouldn't it be fair to say that your argument you just made is null and void?
No, I don't.
I still stand on what I say.
It's subjective, but...
I see why you're single.
You just admitted just now that men don't...
You do realize that you just admitted that men don't prioritize intelligence, yet you use intelligence as a redeeming factor.
Some men.
The majority don't.
By your own admission.
I guess.
I'm not a man, so...
That's irrelevant to the...
How would I know what men prioritize?
Do you not see how you're flip-flopping and...
The men that I engage with...
Hold on, hold on.
Stop real quick.
Do you not understand how you are quite literally contradicting yourself left and right right now?
No.
I think I'm having difficulty explaining myself.
No, I'm listening very closely, which is why I'm able to say, to repeat back what you said and then understand what you're saying.
You're saying, okay?
The pretty girls are dumb.
And then I asked you, do men care about a woman's intelligence?
She mentioned she can be dumb.
And then I said, do men care about that?
And she was like, no.
So then why would you mention intelligence?
A majority don't care though.
Okay.
Well, dumb ass men.
That's what you say then.
Dumb horny ass men.
Don't give a fuck.
Is that the majority?
So you're saying that most men are dumb as fuck and horny.
Right.
That's literally what you're saying.
Nobody said that.
We're just saying men prefer...
No, that's what it sounds like you're saying.
He's saying that men don't care how smart a woman is.
They look for women who just look good.
I feel like they have nothing to offer but their looks.
You should be talking to me.
So hold on.
Go ahead.
Okay, so I feel like I'm understanding both sides of this and I feel like the disconnect in the argument is that I feel like she's thinking more like Sorry, I feel like she's thinking more long-term of like a relationship.
And I feel like he's just generalizingly speaking as like you go into the club and you take pretty women into the club.
Men aren't really going to care if you're smart or not because their intention is to take you home, right?
But I feel like where she's coming with her angle is more so like when we're thinking long-term in a relationship, marriage, etc.
Would a man love a beautiful woman?
Absolutely not.
But is he going to want to be able to have an intelligent, meaningful conversation with the person he's spending his life with?
I feel like that's where her angle is coming in from.
Yeah, but she's putting the cart before the horse.
If the girl's not attractive enough, there is no opportunity for what you just mentioned.
That's my point.
What is prioritized?
A woman's looks.
Ugly people like ugly people, though.
I mean, the ugliest need to be married.
We are talking about...
Remember, generally, what do men want?
Generally, that's the question.
You tell me.
Generally, what a man wants is a smart woman who's not going to get too much pushback.
Oh, for real?
They want pretty women.
All right, let's go back to the original question.
All right, so you're saying, going back to what I was saying here, so you think women have, well, you said it's, you think it goes both ways.
A woman's pretty privilege is equivalent to a male's.
Subjective, yeah.
It depends.
But in general, in society, who has more opportunity with their pretty privileged men or women?
Or do you just think it's actually equal between the two?
I wouldn't say equal.
I said subjective.
Do you know what subjective means?
It depends on the individual.
Exactly.
And it depends on the opportunities and it depends on the path that they're taking as men, as women, individually.
Okay.
So let's say objectively speaking, how the world would view it, who has more opportunity with their pretty privilege?
You know, it's hard because men's society is like men are the leaders and men are the presidents and the CEOs.
How many women CEOs do you know?
So I... In the modern day 2023.
But did men get those opportunities through pretty privilege though?
Absolutely not.
So then wouldn't it be fair to say that you can't make that argument because they made it off of merit, not their looks?
Yeah, absolutely.
So there is no pretty privilege there.
Not for me, hell no.
It's earned.
Okay.
Because you made an argument.
I thought we were talking about men who are pretty.
Yes, and then you went into a meritocracy argument.
Okay.
Wow.
I think this panel is not suited for the questions, but we'll continue.
Okay, so she's saying that it goes both ways.
Alright, what about you?
I mean, I agree with that.
I think it goes both ways.
I've seen girls and guys...
So you also think an attractive man and an attractive woman have the same opportunities?
Yes.
The exact same?
The exact same opportunities?
Okay.
No.
Actually, I'm going to take that back.
Let me ask you a question.
Who makes more money, male models or female models?
Why are we talking about models all the time?
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know what models make like that.
I would think both.
I mean, I would think if they're paying a guy in Vogue and a woman in Vogue, they're going to pay them the same, right?
No.
No?
No.
I do modeling.
I don't know.
So what is it?
The girl, for a runway, they pay you like $3,000 in defense of the brand deal.
Like the brand.
So they pay you more than the guy?
The guy, yeah.
They pay them like half of that.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, I didn't know that.
So, in that case, and in some cases...
100%.
I would think...
He said you're pretty.
What now?
I said privilege is invisible to those that have it, which I'm not surprised you didn't know that.
I would say women have more pretty privilege.
They could get away with more, probably.
But I do see it as equal.
I mean, I've seen guys get out of crazy things like DUIs with pretty privilege.
What?
You just contradicted yourself.
You said women have more pretty privilege.
I see both.
No, I'm agreeing.
I see both, but if I had to choose one, if you're going to narrow it down to just one, I would say women probably have more privilege.
Then that by default means it's not equal.
Well, you do realize equality is the same.
I know what equality is.
We'll go with women.
But I can see both sides.
Because I've seen men have pretty privilege too.
But if we're talking about majority women.
I guarantee you that pulled over that handsome guy.
Didn't let him off because he was good looking.
Must have been persuasive with his speech.
Or he had some connections.
Oh, he was really masculine.
Or he had pretty privilege.
Yeah.
If you get extra masculine with a cop when you're getting a DUI, you're probably gonna go to jail.
Unless Scott was gay, then that makes sense.
Well, maybe it was a female cop.
Okay.
That's it.
But that's not common to happen at all.
And there's definitely pretty privilege for guys when it comes to women.
I've seen older women treat guys.
Can you please let her finish her point and then I'll come back to you.
Well, I mean, I finished, but I've definitely seen older women give guys privilege based on their looks, too.
Like, In what ways?
Sexual?
Right.
Just in like...
I mean...
I don't know.
This is going to sound wrong, but in school...
Who's more likely to give pretty privilege to the opposite gender, an old man or an older woman?
Oh, man.
Both.
Really?
Yeah.
I would think both.
So you think there's as many old women that are putting niggas on boats as old dudes putting bitches on boats?
No, no, no.
Okay, yeah.
When you put it that way, when you put it about the boats, no.
But I don't know.
I've seen both, but I guess women overall.
But just because you've seen it happen, does that mean that it's probable?
No.
I mean, you're asking my perspective.
That's what I've seen.
I think it's probable.
Well, you should see critical thinking is the skill set to take your own perspective, measure it against how the world really works, and then coming to an answer based on how the world works, not what you've seen.
Okay.
Based on the way the world works.
Let me give you an example so you really drill this into your head.
I can't sit here and say, I'm rich, so there's no such thing as world hunger.
No, there isn't such thing as world hunger, regardless of my personal circumstances.
Yeah, I understand that.
I can't make an argument for my personal circumstances.
Okay, so, world perspective, women.
Okay, fair enough.
So you're mentioning, but you want to mention an exception to the rule, which I understand that, but generally speaking, women.
Okay, no exceptions, women.
There's always exceptions, which is what you were trying to say before, but I'm saying they're not statistically significant.
Alright, what about you?
60-40.
60 women, 40 men.
Do you think men have 40% of the same pull power as a female?
That's attractive?
Is it attractive?
So if you take an attractive man and an attractive woman, they have 40% of the pretty privileged women?
I can actually pull up on my phone if I could and show you a girl who pays the guy's mortgages and everything.
Who's more likely to have their mortgage paid?
Women or men?
Women.
That's why I said 60-40.
You think it's that high?
Where it's...
Beautiful men, there's actually...
I think it's 100%.
For men?
For women.
To get their...
Yeah, of course.
No, it's 100%.
But I'm saying, if we had to say, men, 40%.
That's a big number, though.
That's huge.
I mean, there's a lot of men that like men now, and they're willing to take care of them.
We're talking about heterosexual relationships, not straight.
We're talking about not gay relationships.
We're talking about heterosexual relationships.
No, there's some girls who cut a check.
They do.
I know them.
Okay, let me ask a question to the panel.
How many of you guys have paid a dude's mortgage?
Oh, okay.
How many of you guys have paid for...
I bought a car!
You bought the car for the guy?
Your husband?
Yeah.
With all your money?
Yeah.
But it was your husband?
Yeah.
What kind of car?
Did he spend a significant amount of money on you prior to you spending it on him?
At the time it was an infinity.
But he more than likely probably spent a significant amount of time and resources on you prior to you investing back in him.
So, I mean, is it really equal then?
You only reciprocated value once he gave you a bunch of values, my point.
Women rarely initiate value.
Men have to initiate value.
Then women go ahead and choose if they want to reciprocate.
I feel like No, it was more.
Okay, was he broke at the time?
Yeah.
He was just a server.
You know, we were fresh out of high school.
I was making more money than he did.
So hold on, this is even better.
So he was a server, which means that income was an even larger amount.
Sorry, the payment for that vehicle, purchasing that vehicle, actually cost him a lot more in relation to how much money he made.
Right.
Versus, do you think women are doing the same?
What do you mean?
Are women willing to give a majority of their income and resources to a man to the same extent that a man will give his income and resources to a woman?
I'm saying no and yes and no.
The reason I say yes is let's say like you want to invest in what he got going on but you know it's going to be like a million dollar business.
It's going to go well.
Yeah, I'm going to do it.
But you're investing with the hope that you're going to get a return.
Yeah.
Do you think men actually invest in women with a hope of return to the same level?
No.
That's my point.
Okay.
So you think females, but you think it's 60-40.
So women only enjoy a 20% increase To men Maybe 70 30 I'll say that then 70-30 But I ain't going no lower than that How many of you guys have sponsored a man That's extremely handsome What does sponsor mean?
Basically, you become a sugar mama, basically.
Since you guys are saying pretty privilege is fairly equal.
What about buying him gifts?
I buy him gifts.
I don't pay bills.
But that's what he wanted.
Yeah, that doesn't really count.
I'm talking about taking care of a guy.
You paid for a mortgage?
It's boyfriend.
Yeah, I did.
Where's he at now?
He broke up with me.
He's gone.
And I'm so mad.
Because he was like, he wanted to leave.
He's 21 years old.
He wanted to be free, go to clubs.
Because he just turned 21.
Something's off here.
I need to get married.
And then you said you sponsored a guy?
Yes, a very well-known guy.
Did you make more money than you, or did you make more money than him?
Um...
I want to say he wasn't making...
I think we were in the same level, to be honest with you.
Because he was just growing my name.
And so I kind of got to where he was at really quickly.
And then you left him after you reached that level?
No, he left me.
Why did he leave you?
He moved.
He moved to states and he was like, look, I don't want to live in Miami anymore.
I didn't want to go.
Would it be fair to say that you invested in him because you knew a future might meet to your benefit?
No, I felt obligated.
I felt obligated because of the way he put it.
It was like, oh, I'm kind of like, I'm the one who's building you right now, so you owe me some sense of, like, compensation.
So I was dumb, and I was like, yeah, sure.
And I did compensate a lot of things.
So you paid him to be equal.
So you sponsored his life, but he actually did give you value back.
Yes.
I'm talking about taking care of a guy and they don't give you anything back.
He didn't really give me anything back.
He just gave me exposure.
That's about it.
He gave me exposure.
I would say exposure is pretty important.
I mean, don't businesses pay a lot of money for ads?
Yes.
It wasn't so much an ad, though.
It's what he did for a living.
He's an influencer.
Which is advertising to...
You're using his audience to influence them to follow you and build your brand.
That is advertising in itself.
I guess so, but not when I had discussed previously, like, hey, we can talk percentages.
And, you know, but he...
I was like, no.
And like, no percentage.
I was like, okay, cool.
But then it would be like, he would text me and be like, oh, have you ate today?
I'm like, no.
He's like, oh, we should order food.
But we means I. And then I would go and order food.
And then like...
Or, like, dumb shit, like, oh, I need an Uber, or oh, and I'm like, okay, because sometimes he would throw it in my face, like, oh, I'm giving you, you know, exposure.
That's interesting, though, but she was still getting value.
Yeah.
Well, okay, fair enough.
I guess.
Who do you think benefits from pretty privileged more, men or women?
I definitely want to say women.
Why?
Or, excuse me, like, if all things were equal, you think the woman would?
Why?
Why?
The woman would take more pretty privilege than the men.
I just, I don't know.
It's just based upon what I see with myself.
Okay.
What about your friends or other women you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Women.
100% women.
I mean, like, yeah, men are hot.
Some men are hot, and they could maybe get a thing or two, like, women's attention for being hot.
But, I mean, doing things, from a sense of doing things, they're not doing shit for free just because they're good looking.
Absolutely not.
Fair enough.
So you think guys might get opportunities, but not to the same extent?
No, not at all.
As a pretty girl.
What about you?
Women.
Men aren't really that pretty.
But when they are, it's more women in the world.
So, I mean, they get some type of privilege.
Okay.
What about you?
Women.
Why?
Because I feel like a guy wants something out of the women.
So they're going to do anything to get that.
You know what I mean?
Okay.
What about you?
Woman, because like I said earlier, I believe there's woman privilege.
Okay.
So let's even the playing fields, because most of you said females.
So let's go ahead and get a handicap here.
Let's say you take an average female and a very attractive man.
Who is able to benefit from their pretty privilege more?
Average woman, who's cute, but not a model or a smoke show, or a guy who's a top tier in looks?
We'll start right here.
The average woman.
You think the average woman?
Why?
Because she's a woman.
She's going to be handed more opportunities compared to a guy.
The guy's not going to be let into the club.
The girl is.
Okay.
What about you?
The same thing.
Average women because they still have 100% opportunity to do anything with the average beauty.
Okay.
I feel like it's the sexy man over the average woman.
Why?
Because they be looking like, what you doing with that average woman?
You look so sexy.
Okay.
Okay.
Who do you think gets more...
So, let's say I took a Tinder profile for an attractive man and a Tinder profile for an average woman.
Who do you think is going to have more matches?
The attractive man.
Really?
Yeah!
It's a million women out here looking for attractive...
Man, what are you talking about?
Do you think women in general prioritize looks as much as men prioritize looks?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
What would you ladies prefer?
An average man who's rich, confident, and ambitious?
Or a very attractive man that has nothing to his name?
What's average?
Can we do a scale from one to zero to five?
An average guy?
Five foot eight.
Regular face.
Five foot eight is tall.
I'm five two.
Huh?
That's pretty tall.
We gotta bring it down.
Bring it down, girl.
You said average.
You mean 5'6".
You gotta say 5'6".
Oh yeah, I'm under average.
So 30, 50k a year, 5'8".
Wait, how much are you?
50k?
He's been successful.
Ladies, ladies, please pay attention to the questions and respond with your brain and not your emotions, okay?
But you're making them look good.
Can you please listen to the question, alright?
I said, what would you more prefer?
A rich man that is average looking, but confident and ambitious and a good personality, Or, a very attractive man who's a model, but dumb and no money.
Which one?
One or two?
One.
Raise your hand if you take- We'll average one.
Okay.
Raise your hands for the girls that would pick the guy that had the money and the competence.
Cause we gotta match.
Congratulations.
You guys proved my point that women prioritize other things outside of looks.
So, with you- We gotta match.
But looks matter though.
We have to match.
I look good, I have money.
But not to the extent that you will disqualify an individual if he has other things.
Yeah, because I look good and I have money.
That's just like...
If you notice, right?
It's like a movie.
He's just saying women do care about looks.
However, that's not the paramount thing.
It could be money, status, all these things come into play when you choose a man.
This is incredible.
But if I was broke, I wouldn't mind having a broke man.
What?
Not for long.
Not forever.
When you brag about a guy to your friends, are you starting off with, he's so fine?
Are you starting off with, he treats me right, he does this for me, he does that?
First off, I'm not bragging to my friends because they're going to want to fuck him.
His dick is terrible.
He's broke.
Don't look his way.
You made an argument that a good-looking man, right, is that women prioritize looks.
And I was saying, no, they don't.
And then everyone at the table proved my point.
Women prioritize status, competence, confidence, accomplishments over looks.
I don't think we prioritize it, but it matters.
No, I'm just saying it's a reason why we do that.
Because we are all, all of us are successful women.
That's you, but a lot of women stop.
A lot of women will take a guy that is less attractive and or even ugly if he meets other requirements.
But if he's average and he doesn't have success and he doesn't have confidence?
That's my point.
That is quite...
That's my point.
Like, men can make up for their looks deficiency in other ways.
Women can't.
I'm saying if he's...
An ugly woman is fucked.
A guy that's ugly but has other things in play can still do something.
No.
An ugly woman with money is not fucked.
They're getting their way.
No, they're getting fucked.
Exactly.
And that's what they get in their way.
But that's it.
And they're getting married, too.
So you think a woman that's 30 years old, that makes a lot of money, has more pull than an 18-year-old that's hot?
I mean, for everybody else who want to be married and with kids, yes, they do have more pull because they have the life that every 18-year-old doesn't have.
So who has more pull, the younger girl that's hot or the older woman with money?
The older woman with money.
And I'm going to tell you that with confidence.
Nah.
That is not true.
Men prioritize overwhelmingly youth and beauty, and this has been proven in studies.
This is not even a question.
Why are we all single then?
No, no, you're single.
I mean, why are none of us married?
Because you're focusing on things that men don't care about, like being a boss and making money, which is what you said earlier.
That's my fault.
That's the life I have.
You made the decisions in your life, correct?
No.
My life was given to me.
Yeah, it was given to me how it was.
I didn't choose that shit.
So you didn't choose to be a boss and make money and chase success over a man?
No.
If my daddy and my mom was still alive, I'd be still living with them.
Oh.
Yeah, I'd still be like, under my mom.
Are you not going to take accountability for any of your life decisions here?
What, to be successful or be a boss or take care of yourself?
Yeah, I do take care of yourself.
You were successful because of your choices, correct?
Yeah, but I had to make those choices.
That's fine, but the point is that you became successful in a byproduct that is men don't value success.
I don't even think about me when I think about myself.
I think she's in survival mode.
How does she survive then?
When your parents die, what is she supposed to do?
Live on the streets and just live under a man?
Here's the thing.
The world doesn't owe you sympathy.
I'm not saying that's wrong.
But what I am saying is that her decisions have consequences.
So if you prioritize money, income status, etc.
as a woman, you might not necessarily be able to compete for the man that you want with a woman that's 18 years old and doesn't have as much baggage.
I'm just telling you what men pick.
You said she was single because she was prioritizing all those things, right?
Yes.
The things that she prioritized are not things that men prioritize in their woman.
Right.
That's why I'm single.
Yes, it is.
Hold on.
Let her finish.
Go ahead.
That's why I'm single.
That's all I want to say.
Off your decisions.
Off my decisions.
To be an independent woman.
There you go.
I don't think you chose that though.
No.
I've been independent since I was 15 years old.
It's for survival though.
I feel her because her parents died.
She literally had no choice.
Exactly.
No choice.
To choose a man over survival, I think you're always going to choose survival.
And you're basically saying choose youth and beauty.
The point here.
The point is, is that everyone has choices to make.
Her choices, yes, may be affected by her parents dying, but ultimately speaking, her being a CEO is not what men actually want.
So that choice that she made being a CEO is her choice, ultimately.
Okay, so what if I say that I want a man to take care of me because of the fact that my parents died and I don't have any help?
That's a choice, too.
You would have had a higher likelihood of finding that when you were younger, is my argument.
From an older guy?
From who?
A pedophile?
From who?
We're all 16, 16, 14?
Do you think you're more attractive right now at 30 years old, or when you were 21 years old?
When I was 21.
But I didn't have any time for men.
Okay, but if you were more attractive back then, Would it be fair to say that your chances of finding a guy have kind of come down since you've aged and you're not as attractive?
I mean, if you want to find a husband or a guy that's just going to sleep with you?
Both.
A guy that's going to sleep with you is for 21.
For sure.
Okay.
For sure.
I mean, we're just going to move on.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you think...
So you think the average, you think the more attractive man has more opportunities than an average woman?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Fantastic.
Okay.
What about you?
Who do you think has more opportunity now that we're evening it out?
An average woman or a very attractive man?
Average woman.
Why?
The attractive man still has to pay for stuff.
Okay.
Fair enough.
All right.
What do you think?
Please pay attention.
Attractive man or average ugly girl?
Who benefits from pretty privilege more?
I want to say still the woman.
Okay.
What makes you say that?
Because I agree with you.
I feel like it's not pretty privilege, it's woman privilege.
Okay.
What about you?
I'll say the women.
Why?
Why?
I feel like you're going to always find, there's like a billion men out there on Instagram and Facebook.
Social media is going to, somebody's going to find you attractive.
Somebody's going to find you so beautiful.
You're going to be like the most beautiful woman to them.
Okay.
What about you?
The average woman.
Still woman privilege, and I feel like there's just more expected out of a man, whether he's super attractive or not.
So I would think it'd be easier for the woman.
Okay.
Okay.
I agree.
I think that men...
Chris, give the video.
Yeah, women.
You think the average woman?
Why?
Because, especially with social media, that's really changed everything.
There's more men on dating sites than women.
I think it's like 65% men, at least.
I don't know.
I just know that there's more men on Tinder than women.
Closer, 80%.
Yeah, I was going to say 75%, but I don't want to be wrong.
Still wrong.
So, yeah.
Wrong.
Okay, so, because of social media?
Nowadays, if we're talking like now, yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I feel like women.
Why?
Because I feel like the average woman these days could go to average to attend with enhancements and weave and makeup and filters and all that other stuff.
She's going to be attracted to somebody.
Alright, so we've got a video to play here.
Mo, give the background on this thing real quick.
Huh?
Oh, you never saw it?
Okay, well, thanks, Mo, for being useless.
So the video, guys, here, we're going to be talking about pretty privilege with women, and this comes from George Janko talking about this.
Let's go ahead and enlarge it on our side, Chris.
We're going to run this clip and then get the ladies' reaction to this.
So, Summer, I used to get paid $10,000 to go to clubs.
Go ahead.
When I was 15 years old, I would get paid a bunch of money.
To go to the clubs?
Just to go to the club.
It's called hosting.
I get, like, $10,000 just to go and be in the club for an hour or two hours.
And, like, they bring bottles.
And I would do Instagram girls.
I thought I made it by making it into the club.
As a boy, like, when a guy can get into the club, he bracts his friends.
Getting to a table, I feel like Drake.
We'll run it back one more time because it's short.
Since I was like 19 years old, I would get paid a bunch of money.
To go to the clubs?
Just to go to the club.
It's called hosting.
I get like 10 grand just to go and be in the club for an hour, two hours, and like they bring bottles.
I thought I made it by making it into the club.
As a boy, like when a guy can get into the club, he breaks his friends.
Getting to a table, I feel like Drake.
By the way, this comment here says it's called hosting.
It's hilarious.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thoughts on the video, then I have another question for the ladies.
Go ahead.
True, accurate, or not?
That's accurate.
Accurate?
You know girls that get paid 10k just to show up?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I guess.
I don't know, bro.
I wish I could.
You don't have that opportunity, but...
Okay.
Yeah, I guess it's out there.
I don't know girls that get paid 10k, but I know...
Like, there's no bottle guys.
So, I mean, I would think that it would get more.
Funny, funny trick about that.
If you do see a guy serving a bottle, they typically give better service.
That's what guys do.
Yeah, that's true.
This is what I've noticed.
They have to.
Yeah.
What about you?
I don't think she got 10k.
I don't believe that.
It depends on who you are.
She has a huge platform.
I don't know who she is.
She can bring like 20 to 30 girls in a year.
I definitely feel like she'll get 10k.
But the average is like 2 to 4k.
Yeah, normally.
Normally it's 2 to 4k.
Yeah, but she's a little bit more famous, so.
Okay.
Real quick, what did you rate her on a scale of 1 to 10?
Keep it a thousand.
Like her looks?
Yeah.
Can we go back to her?
I feel like she was like a six and a half.
A six and a half?
Yeah.
Okay.
I think she was average as fuck.
Okay.
What do you think?
She probably turned up.
She probably the life of the party.
The question is, from a look standpoint only, what would you rate her 1 to 10?
I need her to stand up.
I can't even see her body.
I'm trying to see here.
What would you rate her?
Photoshop.
No, it's not.
It's actually true.
She's team.
Yeah.
Photoshop.
Photoshop.
You're not going to give a number?
Photoshop.
Okay, fantastic.
What about you?
What would you rate her one out of ten?
I'd give her a ten.
I think she's hot.
I feel like Instagram photos are different.
I think she's hot.
A ten means she's quite literally perfect.
In the video.
We're looking at the Instagram.
For real.
She don't look like her picture.
What about you?
She's not my type.
I give her a five.
Why are you hating?
I'm not hating.
She's just not my type.
Thick eyebrows.
Bleached skin.
Spray tan skin.
What are your thoughts?
Realistic?
Unrealistic?
I feel like we live in Miami where this is very realistic.
What do you rate her out of 10?
I'm gonna give her an 8 just because in that video she did look a little strange.
But then again, when I'm home not doing anything, I look like a 4.
But I would say that's what you really are then, right?
If you take the makeup off and everything.
We all probably look like that.
We all look a little crazy, you know, sometimes.
What about you?
What are your thoughts on it?
Do you think it's realistic, unrealistic?
And what would you rate her?
10k?
No.
But I mean, even in Miami, they'll pay Atmos Girls to Atmosphere model a few hundred dollars to go out.
I mean, I've gotten a few hundred dollars to go places for the night.
By places, I mean like Kiki or something.
I don't want to clarify that I'm like an...
But Summer Rae, I think her body is a 10.
She has a really, really nice body, but her face, I mean, I've followed Summer Rae on platforms for years and I really think she's kind of on the average side.
I mean, not that I'm perfect or something, but...
Nothing wrong with that.
Alright, what about you?
Do you think it's cap?
Do you think it's cap that she gets paid 10k?
Yeah, I don't know.
I wouldn't pay her 10k, but if somebody was like real known, yes.
Okay, that's a good point.
Why would you not give her 10k?
Because I don't know her.
You're a female though, so why would you be paying abroad?
Because, I mean, if you're a party promoter, you could be making some money off that.
So it's lucrative.
But you just said you wouldn't pay her though.
No, I wouldn't.
Yeah, so you wouldn't pay her, right?
I'm not like, I don't like her look.
Would you prefer, let me ask you a question.
Let's say you're running a club and you got a male, let's say a male musician and an Instagram model.
Who would you pay to come to the club?
The musician.
Why?
Because they put on a show.
People come to see that.
They don't want to see nobody just standing in their popping bottles.
They don't want to see that.
So in other words, men have to bring value?
Men bring value.
Okay, fair enough.
What about you?
That's realistic.
I could say for experience, do you know Malou Trovejo?
No.
I asked her for a promotion.
She asked me for 15k on her Instagram.
For a story post?
For a story post and a post.
How many followers does she have?
For one day.
She has millions.
But you can buy those.
So I could definitely understand it.
So I'm pretty sure that girl, Summer Rae, she got paid because it's like the attraction.
Like the more influencers or like famous people you bring to a place, the more people want to go.
I noticed females have a...
Big cap on their Instagrams a lot of the time.
Girls are the biggest culprits of really bad...
If you look at a hot chick's profile, she'll have millions of followers.
She'll get 5k likes.
And you're like, what the fuck?
This doesn't match up.
Or not that many comments.
Or it looks like bots.
Do they buy followers?
I know a guy who buys followers and likes.
With women, what I've noticed is that Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
If you look at all the top podcasts, top YouTube channels, they're pretty much all men.
But if you look at TikTok and Instagram, women a lot of times do it well because it's visual.
It's short form content.
I agree.
What about you?
I believe it's true just because I know who she is and her being at a club, guys are going to see that and be like, I want to go to the club and meet her.
I want to see her just because of the fame she has behind her.
What do you rate her out of 10?
Her face?
Give her a six.
Overall?
Six and a half.
Fair enough.
Okay, so ladies, I have a question for you guys.
Throughout this podcast, we've talked about pretty privilege, women having more opportunities than men in general.
Oh, and real quick, just so you guys know, because you guys said that men and women have the same looks, whatever, just to let you guys know.
There was a study done, and they took a very attractive Tinder profile, that's a man, and a morbidly obese, ugly girl on Tinder, right?
A female.
And what they did was, they ran both profiles for 24 hours.
The man only got about 80 to 100.
But if there's 80% men on the internet.
That's my point though.
This is where I'm going with this.
The men, right?
The guy only got about 100 swipes versus the woman got like 400 swipes and she was 300 pounds.
Can I say something?
And very unattractive.
So what I'm trying to explain here is that even though Tinder might be more male than female, which is true, but that's a staggering ratio.
That's a staggering ratio for 80% men, right?
Wasn't it 80?
Yes.
But my point is that Women, right?
An attractive man, very attractive man, can barely compete with the lowest level of women, is my point.
But how is that equal when there's 80% men?
It's not really, if there was like, if it was like an equal ratio of women and men on the platform, I think that would be more of...
In the world.
It wouldn't change because I only swipe right on about 5% of men.
That's my point.
When we talk about the obese women, the obese women, it's like a misconception that women, period, people that's bigger, they don't have self-confidence and they're desperate and they need it.
It's a misconception.
Dating apps, though...
What is your argument?
I'm confused here.
My argument is that she got more DMs because they think that she need the DMs.
The man who looks more attractive, they think that they're going to get rejected.
So they swipe right for charity?
I would.
I mean, I don't care about being rejected.
Like, I'm gonna shoot my shot.
But a lot of people won't shoot their shot if you look too good.
Wait, what?
Like, you look intimidating.
Exactly.
You feel me?
Yeah.
I hear you.
That's not a thing on dating apps because you're able to swipe anonymously in the privacy of your own home.
Maybe you can make that argument if you're approaching someone in public.
I didn't know it was anonymous.
I'm not on Tinder.
I've never been on Tinder.
I didn't know it was anonymous.
So when you match...
How are you arguing...
He's saying you're not in person shooting a shot compared to like...
Yeah, like, you get rejected, you don't match with someone, okay, but it's different if you're going up to someone and you're doing it.
So on Tinder specifically?
I think they still care.
Because I'd be on IG. Ladies, the bottom line of me saying that is to simply say that a woman that's a one...
Can destroy a man that's a damn near 10.
That's my point.
She sure can.
No, I wouldn't even think I would have a chance if I was the one for a man that's a 10.
I agree.
No, I agree with you.
What do you think?
I need you to really understand the concept that what you think and your personal experiences might not reflect the reality of the world.
Are you aware of this?
Yeah.
That the world does not revolve around you and there's certain generalities that apply even if your life doesn't apply to that generality.
None of this is about me.
Why are you making it about you then?
I wasn't saying this about me.
Every argument you make comes back to your personal experience.
Well, because I like to keep it real.
If I've been through it, I'ma say it.
You too.
You know your facts.
You didn't just like pull it out your butt.
You see?
Myron, she's keeping it real, bro.
Keeping it real, bro.
I'll just drink my drink.
Drink old drink, baby.
You got something that you wanted to say?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I was going to say I agree with you because I don't think men and women use dating apps in the same way.
Okay.
Before you make your point real quick, guys, let's go ahead and kill all the things except for Rumble and Instagram.
Sorry, Rumble and Instagram.
Rumble and YouTube.
Guys, come on over to YouTube real quick.
YouTube.com slash C slash Fresh Fit Miami.
Come on over.
Or you can watch us on Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit.
Sorry, go ahead.
Um, I don't think men and women use dating apps in the same intention.
And I think that like lower ranked girls, uglier girls, more average are going to have more matches because men are on there ideally to hook up.
Right.
And women, if they're looking at, and I always say this to my friends, like I don't like dating apps because like if I'm on a dating app, I am looking for looks.
I don't know anything about your personality.
I don't know what you do, like whatever.
But if I'm in person and I can catch someone's like energy and vibe right away, If you're average but I like your energy and I get to know more about you then I'm probably interested and I'm going to become attracted to you because I like your personality.
Here's the catch though.
At least you get the opportunity to meet them.
This is true.
That's the whole biggest part.
The guy isn't even going to get a chance a lot of the times.
Let's say you meet a guy and he only wanted sex from you, but you're able to get on a date and show redeeming qualities where, damn, okay, this girl ain't some annoying ass bitch.
I want to actually hang out with her.
At least you get that opportunity.
Men never get that opportunity a lot of the times.
That's my point.
Yeah, if they're not an annoying ass bitch, I would definitely love to hang out with a man more.
He was talking about a woman.
Well, I'm saying.
You're first to join us right now.
What?
You can't be serious right now.
What man's is this, bro?
What man's is this?
What's going on, dude?
Okay.
Okay.
Chats?
Jack is crazy.
Okay.
No, no, no.
I got another question to follow up.
So, all right.
Now that we've established that a lower-level, mediocre, obese woman, 300 pounds, has more pull than a top-tier guy, right?
So, pretty privileged.
Overwhelmingly, you know, benefits women.
Let's be honest here.
That's not even a...
I was just being nice with y'all before.
Any girl that said that, you know, it's equal.
I know you try to say that it's equal.
It's not, ladies.
I didn't say it was equal.
I said it's subjective.
I never said the word equal.
Okay.
I said subjective.
But then I went ahead and said, objectively speaking, who has more opportunity?
Who's going to pull more with their pretty privilege?
And then it boiled down to women.
Is this all based on the Tinder statistics?
That's fine.
That's just one of many statistics that women have more opportunity.
Excuse me?
I said I didn't say it was equal, so please don't put words in my mouth.
I said it was subjective, which I still stand on.
But then I said, objectively speaking, and you're like, oh, well, you know, it could go both ways.
When you have somebody who's like such a hard argument, it's hard to like, okay, like we're going to sway.
I'm going to sway.
So are you arguing to make a point or are you arguing because you don't want to admit you're wrong?
I'm not.
I'll admit that I'm wrong.
I take accountability.
You haven't done that.
What do you want me to say?
Well, you were very incorrect in your analysis from before.
Well, you were wrong.
Okay, I'm wrong.
I'm wrong.
An average...
I mean, I just quite literally proved this second ago with the Tinder thing.
And a very attractive man can barely compete with a mediocre woman.
But then in your argument, you're saying a hot girl, right, is equal to a hot guy.
And I was like, not even close.
Why do you keep saying the word equal?
I never said it was equal.
You said it goes both ways with almost quite literally...
I said subjective...
You said it goes both ways.
Correct.
And it's subjective, which quite literally means it's equal.
Equal and subjective don't have the same definition.
You're using them together in that way, so it implies equality.
You were saying equal in context.
It implies equality.
Both ways.
That's what you're hearing.
No, I'm listening.
That's the difference.
I'm listening to understand.
I never said the word equal.
I said subjective.
Both ways.
Your context led to it being equal.
Both ways, right?
But ultimately speaking, we get that you didn't say the word.
Exactly.
But yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
So we've established, right, that pretty much women have an overwhelming advantage when it comes to pretty privilege in almost all realms, right?
Whether it's opportunities, whatever it may be.
Now, knowing this, right?
That women have opportunities.
Dudes are hitting on them all the time just from simply walking on the street or being in a grocery store.
They'll get their groceries paid, etc.
Should men protect their girlfriends from all the opportunities that are out there for the girl?
Maybe this could be like, hey, no girls' nights out.
Hey, I don't like you dressing this way.
Hey, you should probably close down and make your Instagram private.
Maybe take certain pictures off.
Limit the girls' trips.
Whatever it may be.
Should men take an active step In, I guess, how do I say this?
Getting rid of risks in the relationship given all the pretty privilege you guys have just admitted to having.
Start right here.
I believe if it's a woman that a man wants to take serious, she's going to want to do that just because of the man.
The man's doing all these things for her.
She's going to want to do that.
She shouldn't be told, hey, you have to take this down.
You shouldn't be going to the club.
She should just not be doing it.
So are you saying if she doesn't do it, the guy should just, she should be doing it automatically?
Yeah, she should be doing it automatically.
Okay.
And if he says, hey, I don't feel comfortable with this or whatever, and she gives him any kind of kickback, what would he say?
Or he says you're controlling or toxic or whatever.
Then that's not the girl for you.
That's not the girl you should have around you.
You should leave her, you think?
You should leave her.
Damn.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
So, I feel like...
Merch.
It's hard because it's actually my boyfriend left me for that.
He said, I hate your social media.
I hate what you're doing.
I hate you're giving these guys attention.
I hate you're getting attention from these guys.
Damn.
He's smart.
After everything I did for him, and I actually, like, it was a point when I had Bryce Hall, I had fucking, what's his name?
Josh Richards.
I have all of the, like, big influencers, and I ignored it because of him.
I feel like, at the end of the day, it's controlling.
And if you don't want to be with that girl because she's getting all this attention, because she's a body, because she's this, then don't be with her.
Go, Queen.
He's ungrateful.
How dare him?
How dare.
All these guys in your DMs.
But would you admit, though, he had a concern?
Because, I mean, these have pretty big names hit you up.
Yeah, and I was like, hey, how are you?
I wouldn't be like, okay, block you.
Like, no.
I was like, hey, how are you?
Yeah, but I never called him cute.
I never called him, I want to do this with you.
But can you understand his frustration?
Because, I mean, you're getting damned by these guys and you're responding.
It's like, whoa, what's going on here?
Can you understand his insecurity?
Yeah, he had insecurity because I'm this and he's not getting texts by other guys and he's not getting all that attention.
Yeah, of course.
So they had access to you.
So hold on.
Your man is like, damn, my girl's famous, she's lit, responding to these guys.
Do you know how he feels about that?
Like, deep down.
So you understand it.
Yeah, because if my boyfriend has the same attention from other girls, I will feel some type of way.
So then you can understand why he was feeling that way.
But leaving me over that, after everything I did, Yes, it's a major concern.
Could you, like, comfort him throughout the insecurities?
I think that's cheating.
I feel like, also, you could meet somewhere in the middle.
You feel me?
Like, I feel like, cool.
Okay, he doesn't like that you were there, you know, replying to these messages, but now help him understand what you have going on and give him some sense of trust, you know?
Because a man, okay, I'm young, too, but you're younger.
And I don't know, you know, if you're still living with mom and dad, if you have your own place, or how far you got with that man.
But when a man is providing for you, and when you live under a man's roof, he has some sense of control.
When he's providing for you, I saw you shake your head.
She was a provider.
Yeah, I was a provider.
Okay, see, you're the main provider.
That's a little different.
And that's how she pay her bills.
When we're young, we're still in love.
So that's what happened with me.
I was stupid in love.
I realized I was controlling that toxicness.
That's controlling because why you don't want to be with someone who has this and that and you're just like insecure about it.
Let me ask you a question.
So like he told you, he was honest with you and he told you what he liked and didn't like.
Yeah, at the start of the relationship, yeah.
Okay, and you said that he's insecure.
No, I say that now because after everything I did...
Okay, you think he was insecure.
Let me ask you a question.
Who's more secure?
Someone who tells you the truth and doesn't care what happens?
Or someone who doesn't say anything to you because they're scared of what could happen?
The first option.
Someone who tells you the truth.
So I would argue your boyfriend was very secure.
He told you the truth and didn't care about the consequences.
He told me the truth because he wanted me to, like, stop.
But that means he's secure.
Yeah.
He's insecure because he's...
By your own definition.
Well...
You see what I did there?
Because women love to say men are insecure when they put boundaries on women.
But I argue that when a man puts a boundary on you, he's very secure because he's telling you what he really likes and doesn't like at the cost of possibly losing you.
He's actually insecure if he doesn't say anything because he's not secure where the relationship is and he's scared to lose you.
You have a point, but it's also secure that he won't let you wear whatever you want, that he won't let you go out with your friends, that he's scared of you, like, cheating.
Also, you know what I mean?
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Do you like watches or what do you like cars?
What do you like?
Cars.
You like cars?
Okay.
Let's say you save up a bunch of money and you buy a brand new Mercedes, what, G-Wagon?
G-Wagon.
Alright, you buy a G-Wagon, right?
You spend $250,000 on it, right?
You buy it, you're fucking, yo, this is lit.
You get it with zero mileage, you're like, yes, this is awesome.
And then you go home.
Three weeks later, right?
Dude knocks on your door.
The guy that sold you the car.
He says, hey, listen, bro.
I need you to put a for sale sign on your car.
And drive around with it for like a month or two, okay?
How'd that make you feel?
Bad.
Why?
I'll cry.
Why?
Because I just bought it.
And I wasn't like driving it for a while.
And you worked really hard to get it, right?
Yes.
That's exactly how men feel about their girls showing their body all over the internet.
Dang.
Okay, it makes sense.
Hold on, stop it right there.
It makes sense.
This is why men protect what they get and what they invest in.
No guy wants to be with a girl that has a for sale sign on her neck.
And unfortunately, women don't advertise the same way men do.
Girls advertise by putting pictures up and making themselves look available.
Men advertise by actually going up to the girl and letting him know he is available.
So you see how it's different here?
So I would argue that your boyfriend, number one, was very secure because he told you the truth.
And then number two, when you advertise yourself a certain way, put a for sale sign on your neck, which unfortunately is what social media is, Then sometimes you got to deal with the consequences.
No guy wants to pay full price for a car with a for sale sign on it.
And because of your profession, you have to be extra, I want to say, explaining to your boyfriend.
Because once again, you understand your career?
He doesn't.
You have to be like, you know what, babe?
Here's why I'm responding.
Look at this.
With me.
Because if you don't do that, it's like, she damning on her own?
What's going on?
He doesn't know.
Now I'll give you one Excuse here.
You took care of him and you paid all the bills.
Yeah, so so I can I can see Where that comes from which is why we actually tell guys on this podcast You need to make more money than your girl have to like you have to be You know if you're gonna have boundaries and you know control her sexuality like that to be the leader You need to be the fucking leader.
So his problem is that he didn't have the leadership skills But at the same time women need to understand that when you advertise yourself a certain way on the internet or put out a certain image of A guy that's with you is going to lose respect for you and he's going to want you to change.
So, I mean, it's up to girls how they want to move with that.
But social media, right, to a degree, can be construed as cheating.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I agree.
Especially when you respond.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree.
And especially if he didn't know, like, you were responding.
He had my Instagram, my Snapchat, my Gmail.
Oh, he did?
So he was, like, looking at them.
He was, and he would block them, too.
And I would get mad about it because he did it without my concern.
Yeah, I get that.
Okay, hold on.
That's different.
It was a controlling relationship.
They're probably trying to set shit up to like, yo, let's link and all this other shit.
Come to this photo shoot.
To add on to something that you had said, right?
Okay, cool.
You said if the real If the roles were reversed, you wouldn't like it.
So when you're in a relationship with somebody, the same way I have things that I don't like, he's going to have things that he doesn't like.
And you're both entitled to walk away whenever you want, no matter who's financially providing.
You know what you're not entitled to do?
Change yourself when you get into a relationship.
I'm telling her to walk away.
I'm telling her to walk away if it's something that she doesn't like.
The same way he walked away.
As far as professional, you don't.
If she was working as an OnlyFans model before her relationship and he got with her knowing that she was the OnlyFans model, how dare he tell her to stop that once he fall in love?
How dare you save a quarter million dollars, buy the G-Wagon, bring it to your house, think that it's yours, then the salesman tell you you gotta put a for sale sign on it.
How dare he go with her when he knew she was doing OnlyFans?
What did I just say a second ago with the Mercedes?
He knew.
You're talking about earning it, right?
With the Mercedes?
Yes.
He knew.
But she's saying like if someone started off doing OnlyFans and then a guy came in and wanted her to stop doing OnlyFans.
Remember when I said privilege was invisible to those that have it?
How many times you hit on guys?
I've hit on guys before.
Really?
I mean, I don't count them.
How many times have you hit on a guy versus guys hitting on you?
It's a different ratio.
Oh, what is it?
Maybe 1 to 100?
Okay, if it is 100.
Maybe 1 to 100?
What is the ratio?
I don't know, sure.
1 to 100.
Okay, so you might hit on one guy for every 100 guys that hit on you, right?
Why'd you decline all those guys?
Not interested.
Oh.
So would it be fair to say that they didn't measure up to your standards?
Maybe they didn't look good enough.
Maybe they didn't make enough money.
They didn't have confidence, ambition, competence?
Or I wasn't interested.
But yeah, I guess.
So you do realize that by a man attracting a woman in the first place, he had to put in work?
Mm-hmm.
So you tried to gloss over that is the point.
No, what I'm saying is that if they started off doing OnlyFans...
You're talking about this car, this prize, and then they get it taken away.
Like I'm saying...
And you don't like the fact that the car is being shown?
Yes.
You saved up your money, which is a man building his value, getting a vehicle, purchasing the vehicle.
I get it.
We're not cars, but I'm using the analogy to illustrate how men feel about the topic.
Men have to make their money, increase their value, right?
Buy the car.
And it's disrespectful to you as the man purchasing the vehicle for the seller to come and tell you, oh, we're going to put a for sale sign on it after you spent all your money and time to purchase it.
We were talking about already having the for sale sign.
Exactly.
And then you purchase it.
So the for sale sign is supposed to come off.
Oh, that's what guys go for is to get a girl with only fans and then take the sign off.
Well, I mean, you're no longer on the market, right?
You have a man now.
No, being sexy is your profession, baby.
Okay, I get that.
But here's the thing.
Like, a big part of what men want in a woman is purity and not embarrassing them.
Men don't ask for much from women.
What you get with a sexual model?
No.
As a main girl, never.
But for the men who do get a sexual model.
Most guys don't want that, which is why anytime a guy gets with a dancer or stripper, OnlyFans girl, whatever, that tough conversation always comes.
I want you to quit.
And that's not right, baby.
How's that not right?
No matter what.
So you drive around with a for sale sign on your vehicles that you purchase?
Exactly.
At the end of the day, it's a choice.
That's my point.
See, I'm just giving the other side, and all of you would have an issue with driving around a vehicle that had it for sale sign, but then when I say, yo, if you meet a guy you need to change for that man, it's a problem.
What kind of car do you drive?
BMW. So, if you met a girl who's a hate BMWs, sell that bitch.
You had it for 10 years, you're like, no, that's my car.
She's like, sell it.
Hate BMWs.
I'm going to say to this girl, would you do it?
You had that BMW way before her.
You should be a comedian.
You're funny.
There's no connection whatsoever.
Can we move on?
Can I ask a question that's pretty...
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
So...
If you have an OnlyFans, right?
And, you know, you meet a guy that's successful, he takes care of you, he respects you, he takes you on trips, he spoils you...
And it's getting serious and he wants to commit to you fully and vice versa.
But wants you to delete the OnlyFans.
You're telling me that you would give up all of that and that life and that love and that connection because you want to keep making $5,000 to $20,000 a month.
On a platform that's not gonna last forever.
Not telling you that.
Stop, stop, stop.
Raise a hand.
Who would give up to OnlyFans?
Raise your hands.
I don't have one.
Put your hands down.
I would.
I will.
I will.
I'll delete everything.
Okay.
So hold on, hold on.
It looks to me like only two girls wouldn't give it up.
You two wouldn't give it up.
No, I wouldn't give it up.
Who's the third?
So you two would not give it up.
All right.
Why wouldn't you give it up?
Because men, I mean, people change their mind all the time.
How am I supposed to know that if I stop making money, this man is going to be with me forever?
Like, what am I going to do after that if he leaves me?
Who do you think initiates more breakups, men or women?
I don't know.
It depends.
How many times have you been broken up with in your life?
Every time.
It's funny.
I usually do the breaking up.
Thank you for proving my point.
That's my point.
How many times have a guy broken up with you?
Once?
Twice maybe?
Zero.
Every time.
I don't recall a man breaking up with me.
Exactly.
How many times have you broken up with men?
Quite often.
Okay.
So wouldn't it be fair to say that that's an unrealistic fear you have, that a man's going to leave you?
I mean, it is a fear.
But that doesn't mean just because you fear, it doesn't mean it's real.
That's true.
People believe in ghosts or monsters or the boogeyman, but it's not real, right?
Fear is like a concept in your head.
It's a false sense of reality.
It's a false sense of fear for something that doesn't exist.
So would you really give it up then?
I mean, so I'm just asking you so you would not give it up even though realistically the guy probably won't leave you.
Because you're saying if I give it up, he can still leave me.
I probably wouldn't give it up.
Damn.
I like to be independent.
Just in case.
I just like to have that just in case.
So let me do the math here real quick.
So on one side, you wouldn't give it up because you're worried that he would leave you.
But on the other side, he's definitely going to leave you and you'd rather go...
Like, you see the math here?
Hell's not had it up.
One side is indefinite he's leaving you.
The other side is probably not going to leave you.
Yet you're going to stick to the side where he definitely will leave you.
No!
You're going to be secure within yourself.
Right.
I guess I am.
What do you mean be secure?
Like, have some confidence that it's going to work out.
If you're constantly, like, thinking negative, like, it's not going to work out.
We're not going to have a future together.
He might leave me.
He's going to leave me.
Girl!
Yeah, you're just going to manifest that into existence.
People change all the time.
Like, I'm going to change, she's going to change, she might decide he doesn't want me.
I might decide I don't want him.
Drop the OnlyFans or you're single.
There's no manifestation of anything.
I'm talking about security.
Like, if you're secure within your relationship and you know your relationship's secure, let's talk in that aspect then.
That I would think I don't know.
I feel like if you're secure within your relationship, then you don't have to worry about what if they leave me and I have to be independent.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, you got to be secure in your relationship.
What I'm saying is that women have this crazy fear that men are going to leave them a lot of times.
And what I'm saying is that that's just not common.
How many times has a guy broken up with you in your lifetime?
They don't necessarily leave me, but they do cheat to the point where we need to be broken.
Hold on, hold on.
How many times has a guy said, I'm breaking up with you in your life?
We're done.
No more.
I can't even think of a time.
Now how many times have you broken up with a guy?
I don't know.
Can't make this shit off, people.
Can I mention something?
The point is, you see, but here's the thing.
He went out, fucked another girl, right?
And still didn't want to break up with you.
That speaks volumes.
Foul.
Let that sink in for a second.
If you fucked another guy, that means you're done with him.
But he fucked another girl, but he came back to you.
The point is that men don't initiate breakups even in the face of infidelity.
Ladies, let's go back here so you guys understand my point here.
She said, I'm not dropping the OnlyFans because I don't know if he's going to stick around.
Correct?
So she has a fear of the guy breaking up with her.
I respond, that's an illogical fear because men rarely initiate breakups.
How many times have you been broken up in your life?
She said, zero.
I said, that's my point.
Then I asked you, Sam, and you're like, well, just be secure in your relationship.
Then I responded, cool, but realistically speaking, are men going to break up with you?
Then I asked you, how many times have you been broken up with?
You said, never, but men go ahead and cheat, which leads to breaking up.
My response to that was, even when a man steps out and fucks another girl, he still comes back to you.
Stop interrupting.
My point is, is that if you went and fucked another guy, the relationship's over.
He went and fucked another girl, but the relationship wasn't over.
It proves my point even further.
Even with infidelity, men don't leave women.
So men can choose to cheat and continue the relationship.
It's different.
Sex is different for men and women.
Sex for men and women is so different.
I'm continuing.
Sex for women is emotional.
Sex for some women is emotional.
I actually want to run back what you said.
I'm about to fuck a nigga and not get tied to him.
Hold on.
You said, cool, you dropped the OnlyFans.
Now he breaks up with you.
And now what are you going to do?
Hold on.
He said you can't have OnlyFans.
He didn't say you can't have a job.
I do have a job.
That's true.
He said you can't have OnlyFans.
He didn't say you can't have a job.
So just drop your OnlyFans and go work a regular job if that's what you're worried about.
If you really love the man, you're going to drop the OnlyFans and go get a regular job.
If I love the man and he loves me, why should I have to drop anything?
It's a sense of respect for him.
He knows that other people can pay $9.99 to see what he's seeing every night.
Okay.
So...
That's a good point.
That's a very good point.
It's just the point that it's disrespectful.
He knew he was a little man.
How do you respond to that?
It's disrespectful for the man to know that I have an OnlyFans, but it's not disrespectful for me to know that he cheated on me, potentially.
But it's so different.
It's so different?
How?
Because...
Sorry, go ahead.
You're saying because it's emotional?
It's not emotional for every woman.
It is.
Sex for every woman.
Okay, can we address her question, though?
Forget the cheating.
She's just saying, if your man says to you, hey, drop the OnlyFans, I'm going to take care of you.
She's saying, just get a job if you're worried about...
Your problem is the financial.
Your problem is not your OnlyFans.
You said your problem is the financial.
You said if he leaves you, now how are you going to make money?
Your problem is financially, not your OnlyFans.
How'd you respond to that?
Um, being somebody that has a normal job and an OnlyFans, um, if I was to, I, both of them are choices that I make.
I'm about to say the man could say drop both of your jobs.
I will take care of you.
And I just feel like the man shouldn't have any control over my life.
If he loves me, he should be able to respect anything that I do.
He didn't say drop both your jobs.
He said drop your OnlyFans.
Yeah, dropping both wasn't the argument.
He don't care that you're a kindergarten teacher.
He cares that you got an OnlyFans.
He doesn't like that.
Well, it ain't my fault.
He liked me when I had an OnlyFans.
And now that he loves me, he wants me to stop.
Now he wants to marry you.
Now he wants exclusivity.
Now he wants to be the only one looking at your pussy.
Now he wants to be the only one looking at your titties.
I feel like you should have a sense of respect right back to it.
Because do you want people looking at his dick?
So are we just doing this just for the sense of respect?
Like, oh my God, I want to be the only one with you.
Is that what a relationship is only about for you guys?
But it's a big factor.
I just want you to be with me and love me, right?
And respect me.
And respect me the same way I'm going to respect you right back.
But he got with you with the OnlyFans.
But now he wants you for real.
So he didn't tell you serious before?
So he didn't want you for real when he got with you in the beginning.
Going on dates is not getting married.
Going on dates and getting to know someone is not committing to someone.
So if you can't respect a man enough that's gonna take care of you So you gonna stop the only fans so you're gonna stop Like this is this is the thing I've realized from this situation is It's not that you guys want independence.
It's that you guys just want to be able to do what you want and not have a man control you.
Or have a man be able to be involved in that situation.
Even in the face of conflicting information on your fear, a guy might leave me.
I'd lose my independence, blah, blah, blah.
Even though, statistically speaking, men don't leave women, even when they cheat.
Because girls bring that up like, oh, he cheated.
Still not going to leave you, though.
But if a woman cheats on a man, she's definitely going to leave him.
So it's not the same.
I think it's just like a programming too.
I think when women say, modern women say that they don't want a man to lead, I think that they're just, I'm sorry, it's nothing personal, but, you know, as a woman in an American modern society, we are programmed to an extent.
And I was programmed for a long time.
Like, you know, I was making racks dancing and I was an independent woman, but I don't want that anymore.
And God brought me to like, Naturally, we want a man to lead.
And if you say that you don't want a man to control your life, I think you just have probably like, and I have daddy issues too.
You know, I think that it just goes back to the root cause of like, natural women do want a man to lead.
They just, they're just brainwashed and programmed.
It's just like a survival thing.
I don't want a man to lead, but not my financial endeavors.
No, I don't.
Well, if you...
So, if a man could take care of you and you could just...
He can lead and I bring money to the table, but no.
So, you want to go out in the world and fight demons for money when your man is saying, I will take care of you, you just stay at home, cater to me, cater to the children, cater to the house and the food?
No.
You would want to go out in the world.
Which effect are you saying in the program?
Saying that you don't want...
That's not even what he's saying.
I want to own my own business.
You want to make your own money and be successful?
Not my own money.
A money for the house.
The money for the table.
You want to go out and be able to earn.
Here's my question for you then.
Here's the real thing.
Are you comfortable with potentially not finding a mate since that's what you're prioritizing?
OnlyFans?
OnlyFans and dance and all this other stuff.
Since you're prioritizing that acquisition of money...
I feel like even if I was like a daycare owner, like not an OnlyFans worker, and he tell me, hey, I want you to be at home more.
I want you to be a stay-at-home mom, and I make $100,000 a year being a daycare worker, and I'm helping out.
Why would I want to quit my job so we can live under the means that we did before?
Look, look.
You're welcome to your decisions and what you want to make in life.
What I'm saying is that are you okay with the consequence that as you become more successful, as you continue to age and get into your 30s, your chances of finding a man are going to come down.
Are you okay with that?
Yeah.
All right.
That just tells me that men are a little bit insecure.
They want to be the leader all the time.
They want to be the breadwinners.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Men are insecure because they want to be leaders.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Do you want a man of salt in you?
It's taller than me.
I mean, it doesn't really matter.
Would you prefer a man that's taller than you?
I don't care.
You don't care?
You'll date a guy your height?
Yeah.
If he shows me love.
I'm 5'4".
I'm average.
Would you date a man that's 5'2"?
I've dated a man that was my height.
I don't care.
I'm not shallow.
I don't care about shit like that.
I care about how the man actually treats me.
Do you want a man that's smarter than you?
Yeah.
That's nice.
Do you want a man that's stronger than you?
Yes.
It doesn't matter.
Absolutely.
You want a man that makes more money than you?
Yes.
Please let her answer.
That makes more money than me.
So what if I said that you're stupid, weak, and broke because you want a man that's better than you and all these attributes?
How do I sound?
Like an asshole.
Fantastic.
You sound like an asshole for saying men are insecure for wanting younger women.
What?
You said that!
How was that to say?
You said that!
Hold on.
Ladies, it's called logic, okay?
It's not insecure.
It's about men have preferences and women have preferences.
The difference is my preferences get shit on as a man.
Your preference is no one bats an eye.
I'm not attacking you or calling you insecure for wanting a man that's better than you.
That's just what you want.
So you're mad because I said that a man is insecure because he wants to be in control.
No, I'm not mad about that.
I said I'm just using your logic against you and when I used it, you said that was stupid.
And then I said that's exactly how you sound about a man wanting to be a leader.
Or wanting younger women.
Whatever it may be.
Does that make sense?
It makes sense.
Okay, so you got it.
So you can't...
It's a little weak.
The argument is...
It's a little weak.
The argument...
Like, the argument is...
You can't call someone insecure for inherent preferences.
Women want tall men that make money that are successful.
I would be stupid to say women are short idiots that can't make their own money.
They just want that as a preference.
Men want young, beautiful girls that are impressionable.
They're not stupid or insecure for wanting that.
It's preference.
It's biologically hardwired in us.
Why is it okay for you to say my preferences are insecure when I say your preferences are insecure?
I sound stupid Exactly Like I'm just saying like the logic isn't adding up you I ain't quitting my only fans for no nigga.
I'm not quitting shit for a nigga.
If the man can't...
That's cool.
If he don't want to quit me for what I'm doing in my particular life, then I feel as though he's insecure and he should get it with a woman that he can tolerate.
Well, that's an incorrect feeling to feel like he's insecure.
My feelings are incorrect.
When did feelings become incorrect?
A feeling is a feeling.
Anybody can feel however they want to feel.
That's not a But you'll never attract high-value men with that mentality.
Yes, you would.
No, you won't.
You don't prioritize relations.
You're not prioritizing your relationship if you think you don't need to.
I'm sorry, you're not prioritizing it.
Are you in a relationship?
No!
Are you in a relationship?
None of them.
Where are your high-value men at?
Tell me.
And my behaviors will attract the high-value men.
But where are they?
If you're an attractive person, where are they?
Just so you know.
Because I made the choice, right?
The same way when you don't want to leave your OnlyFans for the man, that's a choice, right?
Girl, you was taking care of your man.
Hold on, girl.
You said you was paying his bills in the mic right now, so you finna wait.
I can't listen to you.
So don't listen.
Close your ears.
I'll take the headphones off.
Go ahead.
Cool.
So it's a choice.
You deciding to pick your OnlyFans over your relationship is your choice.
The same way right now, I'm single by choice.
It's my choice to be single.
I'm single by choice as well.
Now, I wouldn't take care of a man, but if a man shows me, you know, certain aspects of a real relationship, then perhaps I would be willing to delete my OnlyFans.
Perhaps.
So we just had a 10 minute argument for no reason?
I like to play devil's advocate.
And there's two sides to every story.
So you're making an argument for something that you don't even really believe in.
She said perhaps.
Perhaps.
It's subjective.
A feeling is a feeling.
A feeling is not a fact.
People's feelings change every second of every day.
What is up with the girls and their attachment to OnlyFans?
Because they don't want to feel controlled.
Why is it OnlyFans?
Because it makes a lot of money.
You can make a YouTube channel.
You can make a podcast.
You can have a OnlyFans.
It's not OnlyFans.
Trust me, I don't want to agree with Myron, but he's right.
It's not about OnlyFans.
It's us wanting to do what we want to do.
She's saying it's an easy guy.
And if you don't want to be a wife, then that's not what you want to do.
Then don't pretend like that's what you want to do.
Don't be like, oh, I want a husband and I want this.
Then say that.
You want to be OnlyFans.
You want to be for the streets.
You want to do that.
You want to get attention from women, from men, rather.
Let me ask you a question for you.
You said you're a teacher, right?
I'm assuming there's like a dress code at your job to a degree?
Absolutely.
Are there rules and regulations that you have to follow to continue to be employed by the school district?
Absolutely.
Are there standards of procedures that you have to teach, certain curriculum, etc.?
Absolutely.
Okay, so there's a bunch of rules that you have to follow, right?
Yes.
So let me ask you a question.
Why are you more willing to bend at the whim for a school district that doesn't really give a fuck about you, but you won't do it for a man that will take care of you and serve you as a man?
First of all, I... Hold on, stop.
Stop.
Because you have an issue with authority when it comes from a man, but you don't have an issue with authority when it comes from your establishment that you work for.
That's not true.
I haven't even stated that.
I have an issue with working for an establishment that tells me that I have to be this, this, and this every single day.
Look, let me just make this very clear for you ladies.
When you meet a man that has his shit together that's attractive...
I didn't even finish answering the question.
You asked a very good question, but I didn't get to answer it.
Go ahead.
You know, being a teacher, they tell you, you have to do this, that, and this.
You have to be like a model citizen, like literally.
And you have to give up your sexuality and everything.
And I feel as though that's not fair.
I don't.
And so I do that.
You said it's not fair.
Did we not just go over and spend about 45 minutes talking about female privilege?
Is that fair?
Yeah, right?
It's unfair to you because you're a man.
But that's life.
There's some benefits that we get and you get, right?
So wouldn't it be fair to say that since you enjoy a bunch of other benefits, there's going to be other situations where you won't?
Life isn't fair, right?
Life isn't fair.
Okay.
So go ahead.
Continue.
Just want to make that very clear.
See, here's the problem.
You never complained about pretty privilege because it benefits you.
But now that we're talking about adhering to certain codes and regulations, it's not fair all of a sudden.
Are we willing to take accountability for like our family dynamics and like our father wounds and mother wounds that may perpetuate like So it's not fair.
What else?
It's not fair.
She got her daddy, I can tell.
Right, I do have my daddy.
My daddy was a strong figure in my life.
But going back, again, I'm asking you, why are you okay with following the norms and the rules and the regulations from the school district, but you won't do it from a man?
Cause they ain't paying us.
I mean, that's a good point.
No, here's paying you.
I'm gonna say I get paid from the school.
I get a paycheck every single, you know, every two weeks.
That's fine, but it's not secured to the point where you're gonna get a family, you're gonna get the security, you're gonna get the provisioning.
Neither is dating men.
Yeah.
You absolutely can.
If you meet a man that has these things in place, he's going to want something in return.
He's asking for something simple like you turn off your OnlyFans.
So you're willing to follow all these codes and regulations to be restricted from the school.
But I've dated men prior to having an OnlyFans and they were not serious.
They were not on the things that I was on.
See, this is my point.
When you meet a man, especially an attractive man, it's like working for a company.
Guys that are higher status, higher value, have requirements of their woman.
If you want to work at a prestigious law firm or at a prestigious school, you have to apply with all the other applicants that want to get that job.
I don't know why women think that they shouldn't have to change or adhere to a man's programming, but you guys will gladly do that for a job and do everything else required for that job.
You'll submit to a business, but you won't submit to your man.
It doesn't make sense to me.
What I'm telling you is there is a period in my life where I have dated men.
I wanted it to be serious.
My main goal was to have a family, to be a stay-at-home mom, to be a teacher at home, basically.
And the men were not about that.
It's like a dice game.
Who picks the man?
What?
Who picks the man?
I picked the man, of course.
So it would be fair to say that you didn't pick the right man?
Well, yeah, but...
Can we go back to the question that you asked before when we stopped right here?
Because we didn't all get to answer it.
Do you remember?
I don't remember.
Yes, the question was before, given all the opportunities that women have nowadays, we're pretty privileged, which we went over in excruciating detail, money, the ability to get certain opportunities, all this other crap, because you're a female, should men...
Protect their women from all those opportunities to limit risk in their relationship.
I said it.
Okay, next person.
You said you're not going to change.
I remember you saying that.
I said no, because if you met her in that light, you fell in love with her in that light.
Next person.
Alright, so she should just continue to do what she was doing.
Who said next person?
Me.
Why are you being disrespectful?
Why are y'all being disrespectful?
I'm not being disrespectful.
You already answered.
And I actually want to get around.
It's 1 a.m.
It's 1 a.m.
- No, no, it's for me.
- I'm just saying next person.
- Okay.
- We're arguing because of a tragic period.
I let everybody talk where we're getting in.
- Okay, ladies.
- That's what it is.
- It always turns into an argument, but she's just sort of expressed how she feels.
- Yeah, I'm done.
- I'm done.
- It's nothing personal.
Before we continue on with this question, was there anything else anyone wanted to say about submission to a business versus a man or anything else like that?
I do.
I'll get to you then.
What business?
A job.
What job?
Being a teacher.
Hey.
Y'all don't want to talk.
Ladies, please show respect on the panel.
I do not want another night this week for another cat fight.
Please don't.
Oh, no.
These guys ain't worth my fight.
Ladies, you with me.
Chill the fuck out.
Show some respect.
If you don't, You know the deal.
You know the deal.
Okay, cool.
So given all the opportunities that women have in today's day and age, we're pretty privileged, etc.
Should men put boundaries on their girls to protect them from all these opportunities that could hurt their relationship?
I think that if the man is the leader in the relationship, they're financially supporting the woman, then I think out of respect, I would do those things.
And I guess it's kind of dependent on how you guys view your relationship.
I mean, maybe some men are okay with their girl going out all the time, but I feel like for me, even if my man was okay with it, I wouldn't even want to be in that environment if I had someone I was at home with all the time.
Would you agree with 90% of men don't like their girl going out to the club.
It's just that they don't want to say it because they're scared of some type of fight breaking out?
Yeah, 100%.
Okay.
Fair enough.
That's fair.
What about you?
Just repeat the question so I can get a specimen.
Yeah, I got you.
Stupid!
It is a hard question, bro.
Given all the opportunities that women have thanks to pretty privilege, should men put constraints on their relationship to protect it?
I feel like if he's providing, if not better, similar opportunities, if he's providing as he should, then yes, I don't mind.
Can you give us some specifics as to providing what degree?
Are we talking about paying the rent?
Are we talking about 50-50?
Give us the level.
I'm talking like, even if we're 50-50, or if we're 100, I feel like you're already putting some kind of investment into our relationship, so that should give you some kind of leeway.
If it's 50-50, I kind of want 50-50 Control per se, but if now you're paying 100% of my rent, if you're feeding me, if you're housing me, if we have children, you're taking care of our children, then sure, yeah, I'll give you that.
I'll stay in the house.
Would it be fair to say that, based on your answer, that your submission is contingent upon the man's level of investment in you?
Investment in the relationship is a difference.
I mean, but he's inherently investing in you.
And I wouldn't allow...
He's taking care of you, he's supporting you, you don't have to work, he's basically covering all the bills.
Yeah, cool.
But it was 50-50, you're going to still go outside 50% of the time.
Honestly, I want to go to what she said, though.
If I'm comfortable with this person and I'm in a good position with this person, no, I wouldn't want to go outside.
I'd stay in the house.
I don't mind.
But what is that number for you is my point.
Would the guy need to pay all the bills for you to get that out of you?
Just bills.
No, even emotionally.
That means emotionally, too.
If it's somebody I can open up with.
What about your goals?
So it can be 50-50.
Of course I have goals, girl.
That don't got to do with what my man does.
But you don't have any income anymore.
That's not true.
Nobody said you're quitting your job.
Nobody said you're quitting your job.
Just because you don't need a pussy on OnlyFans does not mean you can't have a regular job.
Of course you're not paying attention.
Alright, so as long as he's paying at least 50%, he'll get the submission out of you, basically.
I split 50-50 with a long relationship and I didn't go out without him.
Okay.
What about you?
What about you?
Ask the question, please.
Given the amounts of pretty privilege that women have now, do men need to put constraints on a relationship to protect their girl from society and all the advantages they have?
It depends on how serious we are.
If we're like...
Are we like...
Let's say...
Well, here's the thing.
Let's say you want to get serious with a guy.
Then I'm going to listen to what he said.
Are you going to preemptively stop doing certain things?
Or does he have to tell you?
He gotta tell me because I won't know.
I'm so used to what I'm doing.
Alright, let me ask you a question since he has to tell you.
Let's say you're out with your man.
Someone slaps your ass in public.
And he takes your purse and runs away.
And you tell your man, hey, go after him.
What the hell?
Or, that's option one, or B, he slaps your ass and just knocks him out off reflex.
which one's more attractive?
That's a good one.
I don't want him to go to jail.
Stop, stop.
Which one is more attractive?
Him just acting and punching him in the face for disrespecting you, or the fact that you had to yell at him to go chase after the guy?
I guess punch him in the face.
Okay, because he just acted, right?
Yeah, but I wouldn't want them to do that either.
Okay, okay.
It's more attractive when you just got it, correct?
Yeah.
So it wouldn't be fair to say that men just want a girl that gets it and doesn't put herself in a bad spot?
We're not going to just get it like that.
We're already used to that.
So men need to just act regardless and then women need to kind of just get told and figure it out.
We act regardless.
For example, it didn't prove that.
Do you see the disconnect here?
I won't say we act regardless.
I don't feel like we act regardless.
Like you said, OnlyFans.
You're used to having OnlyFans.
Okay, I want you to understand my point.
Do you see how it was more attractive when you just knocked the guy out for doing that to you?
But in your example, you're saying you want him to tell you to not put yourself in situations when in reality it would just be more attractive if you did it on your own.
Flip it around.
Flip it around.
Why is it that he has to understand you and act on reflex but you don't have to understand him?
He found me doing that already.
Huh?
When he got with me, I was already doing it already.
Okay, well, on the other side, when you got with him, he might have not been protecting you at the time.
Y'all were just dating, right?
Right.
But he figured it out down the road.
Right.
So why is it that the man has to figure it out, but the woman doesn't have to?
There you go.
Do you see where I'm going here?
Men have to be men all the time.
Women can pick and choose when they want to be ladies.
It's not a fair deal for the man.
Oh.
No comment.
Next.
I think it's all about communication.
Hey, if you meet her and she's a ho, What?
I mean, you can't turn one into a housewife.
Unless you're going to have some kind of commentary that's going to actually add to the conversation.
It did.
Please be quiet.
It didn't add to it.
It did.
You can't turn somebody into a housewife.
If you met her like how she is, how are you going to change it?
Alright, alright.
Cool.
Bars.
We're talking about profession.
She's a ho.
You can't turn her into a housewife.
She's literally said you can't teach her.
I mean, is she making money off of being what she is?
Let's move on.
Anyway, the question was like, should they put boundaries, right?
All the advantages that women enjoy were pretty privileged.
I think...
In society today.
That it's understandable if they do, but I don't think that they should just put boundaries like, hey, you need to stop doing this, you know, whatever.
Like, especially if I was already doing OnlyFans.
He comes into my life, he tells me to stop doing OnlyFans.
Thank you.
I think it's all about communication.
Like, if you have a better idea of a way for me to make this much money and have financial freedom, okay, we can work on that.
Oh, so you're big into this communication thing too.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So why is that he's got to communicate to you to be a lady, but you don't have to communicate to him to be a man.
Why is there being a lady?
What do you mean?
Can you please stop interrupting randomly when we're like, please?
What I was saying was men don't have to be told that they need to be men.
If someone breaks into the house, he's just going to rise up and he's got to do what he's supposed to do.
If you guys are out somewhere, there's an unwritten rule that he has an obligation to protect you.
Why is it that women can pick and choose when they want to be ladies and the man has to communicate?
You don't think women have that same...
That same guideline?
Like, I lived with my boyfriend.
Nobody told me, hey, you got to do the dishes.
Hey, you got to clean the house.
Hey, you got to do that.
It just happened naturally.
Okay, so in some things, you didn't need communication.
But why do you need communication with things that are kind of fairly common sense?
Men don't like their girl to be all over the place.
Well, I mean, I'm speaking in the sense that you found me already with an OnlyFans.
We started talking, and I already had it.
So in that case, if you don't want me to continue doing that, we need to communicate about it.
Give me some better ideas, and we can get there.
But if I... Let me give you an example.
Have you ever dated a guy that didn't have that much money?
Yes.
Why'd you give him a chance?
Because of his personality.
Okay.
Did you see a future with him and potential?
Yes.
Oh, so you were hoping he was going to change.
What do you mean?
She didn't see what I did there.
Yeah.
I didn't.
So you got with a guy that might have not checked all your boxes on the possibility that he's going to improve.
So you got him for potential, right?
Sure.
What's different than a man getting with a girl that is involved in something that might not be as attractive and hoping that she has potential to take it off?
There's nothing different about it.
That's okay to hope that I will change and hope that I will delete the OnlyFans.
I'm just saying you got to communicate about it.
We got to talk about it and help me figure out a way to not do it.
But my point is that you got with a guy off of potential.
Men can get with girls off of potential too.
But what I'm saying is that by the time he has to voice it out to you, it's kind of an L. Oh, well, there's plenty.
I mean, I can see that, but there's plenty of things we have to voice out to men.
Like, let's say you got with a guy because of potential, but you have to tell his dumbass every single day, go to work, bro.
What are you doing?
Go to work.
I see potential in you.
Would you like to do that?
No.
A guy doesn't have to tell his girl, man, man, you might want to get off OnlyFans.
The same communication that you're talking about isn't attractive when you got to do it, is it?
Yeah, but I feel like it can go both ways.
Like, there's plenty of guys do shit all the time that you just get sick of.
Like what?
Like, not taking care of, not cleaning up after themselves.
I mean, simple shit.
He's paying the bills in his own house.
Whose predominant duty is to keep the house clean?
What if it's 50-50?
That's so sexist.
What if it's 50-50?
It was the case.
Are you aware of the fact that reality is sexist?
So then why would you make an argument that it's sexist when you benefit from sexism?
So, because I benefit from sexism, I can't feel as though the man should get his ass up occasionally and clean the house, which he pays for.
Or else, if I wasn't in the picture and he was paying for his own home, he would just live in filth?
Hold on one second.
Notice how you didn't say anything about sexism.
We talked about female privilege, pretty privilege, opportunities given to women because of their gender.
But as soon as we talk about something small like cleaning, you have all this to say now.
Gotcha, bitch!
See how your logic is flawed?
I would argue sexism inherently benefits women.
Prove me wrong.
Can anyone prove me that sexism doesn't benefit women?
Sexism 1,000% only benefits women.
WNBA, military standards, a woman wants to go ahead and get a job.
How does sexism not benefit women?
I mean men, because if by the rules of sexism, I don't have to cook as a man.
I don't have to clean.
I don't have to take care of children.
Hold on, hold on.
I'll tell you how.
We have a WNBA and an NBA. Why don't we just have one basketball league?
That's not us.
Stop, stop.
Why do we just have one basketball league?
Or why do we just not have one military standard?
Or if someone wants to be a police officer, one standard.
Why do we have different standards for genders?
It's to give women a chance, the same opportunities as men.
Even though you're lowering the quality of the workforce by lowering standards, we still do that to let women in.
I would argue women benefit from sexism all the way.
Men don't.
You don't think so?
Girl, get out of the flow.
Sexism exists to give women opportunities that they wouldn't have had before.
That's a fact.
It only benefits women.
Can you show me another example where it doesn't?
Say something.
Can you stop interjecting randomly?
This is like the third time now I've told you this.
Courtney, relax.
This bitch is tricking.
Whoa.
Whoa, don't say bitch.
I don't care.
Shit, if I call, you know.
I mean, you've been disrupting the show multiple times, and we've warned you several times.
So anyway, can you name a time where sexism benefits men?
I just said it.
When?
When y'all don't have to do shit that y'all don't want to have to do because y'all say a woman is supposed to do it.
That's her job, though.
Yeah.
That's a step.
Gender roles.
Traditional gender roles.
Anyway, we'll continue on.
But sexism inherently benefits women.
But go ahead, what were you going to say?
I think I finished.
I don't remember where I left off.
We were talking about communication.
How you're saying, oh, he just needs to communicate with me to turn off my OnlyFans.
Then I made the argument why she has to communicate with you.
Right?
Well, if your job...
Well, you're talking about nagging.
Like, why should he have to nag me, right?
It's communication, though.
Yeah, but communication.
Like, if we can communicate about it within the first conversation or maybe two conversations, okay.
Nagging, that's different.
I don't feel like a guy should have to nag me to delete my OnlyFans.
If I didn't delete it by then, take the hint, don't be with me, whatever.
But nagging, I don't think that's right.
Communication, though, I feel like it should be a simple conversation.
Let's go over the options and go from there.
And you can make it work.
She wants to alternate to her OnlyFans for a solution.
Because the only reason I do it is for financial freedom.
I mean, I was one of the ones to raise my hand.
I would want to be a stay-at-home mom.
I would want to not work a job and have a guy take care of me.
I would like that.
But the only reason I have that right now is because of OnlyFans.
But you're getting it.
That's the argument.
You're getting it, but you still want to keep the OnlyFans open.
No.
Oh, okay.
Well, then I kind of missed the argument because, no, if I had a guy that was going to provide everything for me and not hold it over my head, at least, I feel like that's where all of us kind of start butting heads about it is she's worried about control.
It seems like, like, I get that.
I would worry about control, too.
Like, I don't want a guy to have to hold things over my head when it comes to money, and I don't have to worry about that doing OnlyFans, but I would be willing to stop all of it for a loving family and to be taken care of.
Okay.
With all the privilege that women have nowadays with pretty privilege, should men put constraints on females opportunities when in a relationship to mitigate risk?
Absolutely.
And I think that the woman should have a deep desire to do that.
And for me personally, in my recent...
Being told or not being told?
If you'd let me finish.
In my...
If you let us finish too.
Hold on.
Let me make this very clear, ladies.
You're on our podcast.
I was literally going to answer that question, though.
That's the reason why I said that.
I was getting to it.
This is our podcast.
We dictate the terms.
If I ask you a clarification question, answer the question.
I don't want no fucking backtalk.
I'm not your boyfriend.
I'm not some simp, whatever it may be.
You're on our shit.
Don't forget that.
I don't need the attitude.
If I ask you a clarification question, answer the question.
Just keep it pushing.
Right?
This isn't your show.
I see you trying to come here and assert dominance.
This isn't your shit.
You've done it multiple times.
Let's move on.
Blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
We're talking with one person the whole time and only one of us talking.
I don't give a fuck what you think.
It's our show.
If we want to continue to hear the blabbering, we're going to do it.
Okay?
Okay?
Let me make that very fucking clear.
It's our shit, not yours.
Okay?
Okay.
And if you don't like it, you can get up and leave.
Right now.
Yeah.
Cool.
Got a choice.
You're mad aggressive.
No, no, no, because I have to be aggressive because you've been aggressive, so I got to match your energy, catch your mind.
How was I aggressive?
You quite literally, oh, well, I'm getting there, blah, blah, blah.
I was.
I was literally in the middle of a word.
Wait, look.
And you interrupted me.
You want to find a husband?
Yeah.
You want to find a husband?
I guarantee you, 99.9% men in the chat Do not want a girl who's mad, talkative, who cuts niggas off, alright?
The list of authorities saying, I had to warn you, you would share with me, but you're going mad aggressive right now.
I see it in your face, I see it in your tongue.
I'm really tired as fuck.
You told me to shut up.
You complain about the time and everything else.
I'm not complaining.
You mentioned earlier, it's 1am.
Let's move on.
You've done that several times now.
Why me, though?
So if you have an issue with it and you're tired and you want to go home, you're more than welcome to go home.
Absolutely.
I appreciate that.
But one thing you're not going to do is dictate how we run our show.
I want to make that extremely very obvious here.
Okay.
You've done this multiple times.
Okay.
Would you like to finish the question so I can answer it?
You're answering it.
Okay.
No.
I think the woman should not have to be told.
And what I was getting to was, in my recent situationships, I have done things like share my location and without them asking and that's just who I've grown into as a woman.
That's not who I was five years ago, but who I am now as a matured woman.
I have a deep desire to submit deeply and Stop the cap!
Can I be honest?
Your mannerisms don't dictate that at all.
My mannerisms?
Yes.
From being around me for two hours?
Yes.
Yes.
For suppression.
Okay.
So women have certain traits that just...
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, it's very...
You seem very masculine.
Yeah.
Guys want to fuck you, but not deal with you.
They want a motherfucker.
I mean, listen, Chris, chill, man.
Look, the point is that you give off a lot of masculine energy.
Okay.
I get it that you want to be submissive and it seems to me like you had a turning point in your life and you realized the things that you were doing before.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Absolutely.
I used to be independent and make 10K a month.
Okay, cool.
But I don't want to do that anymore.
But that's my point.
So you used to be, right, have this mindset.
I mean, it's going to take a while, if possible, for you to even change.
Like, if you were very masculine before.
No, I was in survival mode.
Okay, but if you were very masculine before, it's going to be very difficult for you to go and be submissive now when you've been very hardened from your experiences.
I don't think so.
She's transitioning.
I've had relationships.
She's transitioning, right?
Absolutely.
And I've had a relationship recently that I've gotten to explore that and submit and...
Yeah, it's been really beautiful and healing.
That's cool.
And I've realized that, like, we are super programmed.
Where's that guy now?
We are super programmed at home.
Who's home?
His home.
Thank God.
We don't live together.
Are you still dating him?
Not married.
No, we're not married.
Single.
So you're not single then?
I'm single.
She quite literally said earlier that she was single and looking for a husband.
Absolutely.
And now she's saying...
Now you're saying you have a man.
No.
I said I'm seeing somebody.
I'm not seeing them, but I like them.
I like them.
I fucked them a couple times, you know?
She changed her answer.
I'm confused.
I'm in an exchange.
You don't talk to somebody that you're in a relationship with, but you're not in a relationship?
We're not in a relationship.
We're seeing where things are going.
You confuse me.
I would want to be in a relationship.
Yeah, but you said you were single and you're praying for a husband.
Absolutely.
I stand on that.
I like somebody that is in my life.
That doesn't like you?
Yeah, they do.
But it's not official.
It's new.
You know?
It's been like...
Something's off here because if a girl's talking to a guy that she likes a lot and that he likes her back and it's like...
Well, he lives in a different state.
And, you know, you're not really available.
You would be like, yo, you wouldn't say you were single.
You would make sure to let everybody know.
Nah, I'm fucking taken.
Even if you're not necessarily...
Well, I'm not taken, unfortunately, because they haven't done...
They haven't said you're mine.
Why would I say that?
Have you thought about potential reasons why he doesn't want to commit to you?
Well, we live across the country, so it's difficult.
Do you think that's the only reason?
Go in and relax.
I mean, that's a big reason.
It's difficult right now.
Because it's a part of my life and it's a relationship that I've gotten to explore and see.
You think your husband wants to hear that right now?
No.
My husband?
He wants to hear what?
I'll just be honest with you.
You're fairly masculine, and I can see that you're trying to change, but those masculine tendencies come out a lot, and I've noticed it from the conversation.
We can see it clearly.
And here's the thing.
I'm a very masculine guy, and I've had to turn up my masculinity and deal with you.
So that already tells me what it is.
I have to get you in your place multiple times, which, to be honest with you, you guys don't want to do.
This is why men typically prefer younger girls that haven't had experiences because they're going to just be more naturally feminine because it's just natural.
They haven't dealt with hard things and have baggage and have to suppress that part of their brain because they haven't dealt with it.
When a girl does deal with it, she has to kind of figure out when to turn it on and off and it might just come out at times when it might not be opportune.
Well, that's modern society.
Where are the feminine women?
Are we all feminine?
Do you have a bunch of feminine women in your life?
No.
Every girl that comes on this podcast, you say it's masculine.
I have a feminine woman in my life.
That's not what I've gotten from.
Well, I mean, the point is that you're a fairly masculine woman, which I get it.
That's your opinion.
You don't know anything about me or my qualities or who I am or my heart.
The fact that you're disagreeing with me right now and have something to say for everything that I say is a masculine trait.
No, it's not.
You do realize that being disagreeable is a masculine trait.
That's what you do for a living.
You literally argue with people.
It's not arguing.
You're being combative, basically.
The more you talk, the more you put my point.
I'm not going to talk anymore then.
What the fuck is going on?
She's really insulted by us saying that she has masculine tendencies.
I'm not insulted at all.
That's your opinion.
I know who I am and I know my heart.
You want to take a poll with the chat?
I would say it's fairly objective at this point that you have masculine tendencies.
The internet and having a two-hour conversation that's argumentative and back and forth when people are drinking in a hostile environment that you literally create a podcast to go back and forth and argue.
Yeah, absolutely.
I haven't been argumentative.
You've been argumentative.
You haven't been argumentative, Myron?
Here's the thing.
I've debunked your points because you've made a lot of incorrect points.
Okay, I'm not talking anymore.
I'm wrong, you're right.
I'm masculine.
Can I ask a question related to something that you guys just spoke about?
I just wanted to know, okay, cool.
Because I said I'm single, right?
But I have somebody that I'm interested in.
But I'm single.
Why can't that be a thing?
I'm just trying to understand.
I'm not...
The way a woman speaks about her man when he's not in the room tells you everything about that man.
When a girl's with a dude that she loves, admires and respects and she really likes, she'll basically say, I'm not available or I'm talking to someone.
But when a girl says that she's single, what she's doing is she's keeping the door open for a higher quality male to insert himself.
But could it also be somewhere where like, okay, you guys have sat down and established like, hey, like we're not together, but you know, we're going to work it out and see if somewhere along the line.
There's no working out.
Well, here's the thing.
I already addressed that at the beginning of the show when I asked her about her status.
I said, there's one of two things when a girl says it's complicated or whatever.
It's either A, the girl doesn't like the guy as much and she's still vetting options, or B, the dude doesn't like her that much and he doesn't want to commit, so she doesn't know where to stand.
So that's why she's saying I'm sort of single.
It's one of those two, typically.
I don't know what your situation is because I didn't clarify.
I plead all the fifths.
I'm single and not available.
Which makes sense because your profession would not be...
Exactly.
It's going to hurt your profession to say you have a man.
Which is why guys typically don't like to commit to sex workers because their business is contingent upon them appearing single, unfortunately.
Whether it's Instagram modeling, strippers, OnlyFans, etc.
Your business is contingent upon selling purity and being single.
I started my OnlyFans with my man.
We did it together.
Who came up with the idea?
You or him?
I brought it up and he agreed to do it and we talked about how much money it could make us.
But he had to be involved?
He was involved.
Yeah, he had to be involved when I was with him.
Well, that's an exception to the rule because he's actively involved in the content creation versus you had it just by yourself and it's only you running it.
That's much different.
Alright.
I mean, yeah, it's not the same at all.
Do you have anything else that you want to add before we move on?
I do not.
Alright, what about you?
Should men put boundaries on girls given all the pretty privilege that they have?
If he loves her, then he definitely should.
Okay.
So what if he tells her, hey, you should drop your OnlyFans if we're going to be serious here?
Then he should do that.
I definitely agree.
I mean, I feel like...
Should the girl drop it then?
Yeah, she should.
I honestly feel like she should.
But you don't follow your advice?
No, I would follow my advice if a man who was worthy of me following that advice came along.
Perhaps.
She said perhaps.
We'll give her that.
We got some chats here.
Oh, God.
Fresh's balls.
Bro, who is this nigga, man?
What?
You got your balls.
You got your toothbrush.
What's going on, bro?
Shorty to them from Fresh.
You're coming with us home.
First tacos, then crib.
Fresh is going to make sweet balls music.
Clapping your cheeks from this African bambuta.
It's for real music.
Don't like Fresh's terrible rap.
Are you doing, Shorty?
Please stop.
Next.
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Hmm.
Greta, not funny.
Question for the women.
To those who believe OnlyFans is okay, how would you feel if your daughter was doing those things?
Genuinely, can you defend all that today and stand by it?
I have no problem in 20 years if your daughter is on it.
Real quick.
I'm going to stick with Saro.
I'm going to stick with Saro.
Let's start here.
I don't think it's okay.
It's her image.
It's going to be looked back on years from now, so I wouldn't.
You want to approve?
No.
Okay.
For you?
Same thing.
Same thing?
If she grown, let her do what she do.
Even if it means, like, they make fun of her at school?
If she grown, let her do what she do.
Bullet her?
You don't care?
If she grown, like, 25 and older, let her do what she do.
Okay.
What about you?
I wouldn't love it.
I wouldn't support it.
But, I mean, if she's an adult, I can't tell her what to do.
Unless she's living in my house.
If she's living in my house, you want to do it, get the fuck out.
But, if she doesn't live with me, I can't control her.
You know?
But I wouldn't love it.
So what if your grandkids got bullied because your daughter's OnlyFans at school?
Your grandkids?
Would you be okay with it?
No, I wouldn't be okay if nobody get bullied.
Okay.
What about you?
I feel like same thing here.
Same thing that my mom does with me too.
I don't love it.
I don't accept it.
But you're an adult and you get to make your own choices.
Okay.
I feel like exactly what she said was right.
I agree with what she said.
What'd she say?
She said, if you're an adult, then all I can do is voice my opinion, tell you I don't like it, and if you continue to do it, you're an adult.
You're grown.
But if you're living with me, I can say, either cut this off or get out my house.
Okay.
And if you don't want to, then get a kid.
Alright.
For you?
The question was basically, if your daughter had OnlyFans, how did you feel about that, dealing with it?
I would, if my daughter had OnlyFans, I would offer to compensate for whatever she was trying to earn, doing OnlyFans.
Like, even though I do it, I wouldn't want my daughter to do it.
But if she's an adult, I mean, it is her choice, but I would rather compensate than have my daughter do that.
Okay.
What about you?
I would take accountability as a mother.
Why is my daughter at this point?
And even if she was living under my house, I wouldn't say, if you want to do it, you're an adult.
I don't care if you're 20 years old, you're still my daughter.
And I think kicking your daughter out at 18 is just...
is not...
I don't think that's natural to kick your daughter out at 18.
And I wouldn't say if you want to do it, get out.
I would keep her under my wing and I would find a different way.
I would absolutely not be okay with it, even if she is an adult.
Okay.
And lastly, what about you?
I feel like people are entitled to their own decisions even though she's my child.
You know, I probably wouldn't be okay with it.
I probably wouldn't like it.
I'd probably be hella judgmental but I would try to come from a place of understanding and walk with her through her decisions.
I got a question for the ladies.
Seems like a lot of you guys would have an issue with your daughter being involved in OnlyFans.
So let me ask you this.
Does a woman working in sex work and or monetizing their beauty, whether it's modeling, dressing provocatively, whatever on the internet, hurt her ability to find a husband in the future?
Yeah.
We'll start hearing their work our way.
Yes or no?
Does it hurt her ability to find a husband in the future?
Yeah.
Most likely.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why?
Because...
Men want a certain type of woman.
It's just...
She's realizing these are all the things that I'm not.
Men want a certain type of woman.
Alright, we can leave it at that.
What about you?
Does it hurt her ability to find a guy?
You said sex work or modeling?
Yeah, or monetizing her beauty.
I think there are two different things.
I think sex work, absolutely.
Okay.
Being a model or a TikTok influencer, not as much as a sex worker.
But does it still hurt it, you think?
I don't know.
It depends because maybe...
Remember, she's monetizing on her beauty, so she's like...
Well, that beauty's gonna fade at some point.
So, if she doesn't lock down a husband before that beauty fades, then, yeah, I think she's fucked.
Low-key.
But...
Modeling is different than sex work.
So, I don't know.
Sex work, absolutely.
Okay, so if a girl posts pictures of herself always in no clothes, but she's a model, so to speak, you don't think it hurts her ability?
I'm talking about a real model.
If you're a real model with your clothes on, like...
That's what I was thinking of.
An Instagram model?
Yes.
Oh, no.
It still hurts their ability, you think?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright, what about you?
What do you think?
I think it hurts their ability.
Okay.
I think, I mean, guys, I can't speak for all men, but I would think that they would want, like, Their woman to be more private than doing sex work.
What about you?
The first thing I have to say is, can I get a shot?
I am sobering up.
I'm loving the podcast.
I'm loving the debate.
Don't worry, we're soon over.
We're soon over.
I love it here.
Ask the questions.
Would a woman monetizing off of her beauty hurt her or impact her in a negative way finding a husband in the future?
Why monetize?
You mean like getting like...
Monetizing off her beauty.
Being a model.
It can be any of the following professions.
OnlyFans, stripper, go-go dancer, Instagram model, even being a bartender and dressing provocatively at a bar.
Right?
Do any of these things hurt her ability to find a man?
No.
You don't think so?
Absolutely not, because I got a lot of money, and it's not hard for me to find a man.
Didn't the man that you were with before have an issue with it, that you were going to move here and be a bartender?
Yeah, he had an issue with it, but that was years ago.
But that's my point.
I have no issues now.
Okay.
All right, so you don't think it impacts at all?
Okay.
It depends on what it is, because as a bartender, I feel like...
Merch.
Merch.
I don't feel like it's such a big deal.
I don't feel like they look at it as a big deal.
Do you think men in general would prefer that you stay at home and, you know, be chilling?
Or at a bar where hundreds of men are going to hit on you endlessly every night where you're working?
It takes a strong-minded man to do it, but they can handle it.
But the point is, what do you think men in general would prefer?
The first option where you're home or the second option where you're at the bar?
I know you're working, but men are hitting on you.
What do you think guys would prefer?
I guess they'll prefer me to stay at home.
But at the same time, I can say from my experience that they don't have a problem with it.
They don't have a problem with it.
They don't.
To your knowledge.
To my knowledge, they don't got a problem with it.
Okay.
Just give me your phone password.
So I want to be fair to say that they're asking I need your phone password to compensate for the fact that you're going there, which was my point that they don't like you being at the bar.
They gotta trust me.
What about you?
Do you think a woman being involved in sex work and or any type of profession monetizing her beauty hurts her ability to find a husband?
First-hand experience as somebody who's been doing it for like four years now.
Most definitely.
I recently ran into something like this where I was talking to a guy and I was like, yeah, I work at Booby Trap.
And then he automatically distanced himself because he was like, no, like all my friends go there.
Like my friends are going to get to see you and I don't feel comfortable with that.
Did you lose some opportunities with men that you like because of that?
Most certainly.
I lost a three-year relationship over it.
Fair enough.
Because I chose my job over the relationship, but also considering that he was not providing anything.
No emotional, no financial.
It just wasn't worth my time.
So I chose my job, yes.
Okay.
Do you think maybe he just didn't want to invest once he found out what your job was?
No, he's just young and just, I just, I don't want to put his business out there, but yeah, he was just in a situation where he was still living with mom and dad and he's 24, 25.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think a woman being involved in sex work and or monetizing her beauty hurts her ability to find a husband?
Yes, but can I ask one question that I want to know on the topic?
So now, monetizing on beauty, right?
Like, you know how there's normal influencers on Instagram that they're fashion, they're showing clothes and makeup, like they're not in skimpy outfits and showing off.
Would that also fit into that category with what you're clarifying?
I would say that's an exception to the rule.
Most of the women that make big money absolutely monetize their sexuality.
Right.
But I know some influencers that they've built like a female following, you know what I'm saying?
But they monetize because they're pretty and they're cute.
But that's far and few between.
That's maybe one out of two female influencers, maybe two at the most.
Most overwhelmingly have to show their body to get that same level of attention and to get paid more.
Yeah, so my answer stays yeah.
You say yeah?
Okay.
What about you?
What do you think?
I think yeah.
Yeah?
Mhm.
Okay.
What about you?
I think that yeah, for sure.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Experience.
Yeah?
What about you?
Yeah, it's an image that you're gonna carry with yourself always.
People are always gonna be able to see that.
Okay.
Real quick, how many of you guys want a husband?
Raise your hands at the table.
So, for the girls that want a husband, why are y'all involved in sex work?
Knowing even by your own admission that it's gonna hurt your ability to find a guy.
That husband's not helping me pay the bills right now.
That future husband that I don't have is not helping me pay the bills right now.
So your reasoning is because you're not getting support at this moment, okay?
What about you?
What's your reasoning?
Same thing.
I have student loans.
I have all types of shit going on.
And a husband right now, they're not doing it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Who else?
Same thing?
Not paying bills?
Bills to pay.
Bills to pay.
I can't go back to a regular job right now.
So until somebody wants to finish.
Why can't you go back to a regular job?
You're shitting me?
I make more than a doctor right now.
Okay.
So it's because the money, you want to make the same amount of money.
I don't feel comfortable working a 9 to 5 because I would not receive the same financial, whatever you want to call it.
Would you take a temporary pay cut to earn less money but increase your ability to have better prospective men that will take you seriously?
I don't want to sound dumb but say that in layman's terms.
Would you be willing to make less so you can find a man that will make more and take care of you?
Don't contradict.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, wait.
Before I find a man or after I find a man?
Hold on.
I'm confused.
Before.
Because you already said it by your own experience.
So right now I quit my job and I start working.
Because you said you had opportunities with guys, but they found out what you did and it limited your ability to get serious with them.
Right.
So what I'm saying is would you get a regular job now, get a pay cut a little bit to find that man.
No.
If I had found a guy and he looks at me and he says, hey, you know, and he meets up to my checks.
He checks all the boxes, right?
And he goes, hey, I don't like what you do.
Cool.
I'll quit and I'll get a regular job.
I'm assuming since you're a higher earner, the guy would have to make more than you, right?
Most definitely.
How much does he have to make a year?
Your bare minimum requirement.
A milli, a milli, a milli, a milli.
No, I don't want to say milli.
Because you said you make over a doctor, so the guy would probably have to earn quite a bit.
What would he need from you to quit your job?
I feel like you need to be making at least twice of what I'm making right now.
Okay, what's that number?
Double what I'm making right now.
What's that number roughly?
I don't know.
I started Booby Trap Christmas, so I'll tell you by the end of this year how much I made this year.
I'm making like $1,000 to $2,000 a night, and I work five nights a week.
I'm asking the guy.
You don't have to talk about your money.
I'm simply asking how much does the guy have to make to get you to quit.
Right.
I don't know how much my money adds up to right now for me to tell you, but I know I'm making more than a doctor.
I make $1,000 a day, five days a week.
So do the math.
Can you give me a number of what the guy has to make?
Cool.
Let's do math real quick.
$30,000 a month.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Is that?
You doing it fresh?
Yeah, I'm doing it right now.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's 240k, I think.
30k?
No.
Times 3.
Well, 30 times 12.
No, but she wants to make money.
Wait, 5,000 a day?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Oh, it's more.
No, she needs like, no, 365k a year, roughly.
No, no, no.
Bro, 5,000 a day?
No.
5,000 a week.
But she doesn't work, but she only works 5, what, 3 weeks?
5 days a week.
Oh, okay, so she makes 5k a week.
So, 5 times 4, 20, 20k times 12.
240k.
Yeah, okay.
So, he would need to make half a mil.
Double that.
He would have to make half a mil.
Double that and we could talk.
Okay.
Do you think men that make $500,000, what percentage of men do you think make that kind of money?
A year.
500k.
That's going to take you serious.
Well, I didn't get there.
Let's not make it too hard.
Just, yeah, 500k.
What do you mean?
What kind of men?
Like, what they do for a living?
No, no, no.
What percentage of men do you think earn that amount?
A year.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Alright, I'll answer for you.
It's less than 1% of men make that kind of money a year.
And that's why I am single.
Damn!
Less than 1% make that kind of money a year.
I haven't found him yet.
And the scary part is if you do find him, right, given your background and stuff like that, what's the chances he would take you seriously when he can find another girl to take seriously that doesn't have that background?
Yep.
That's fine.
That's his choice.
I'm very nonchalant.
But you said you wanted a husband though, right?
Yes, but that doesn't mean he's the only man in the world.
I mean...
Cool, he's in the 1 percentile, but how many people are in the fucking world, Myron?
That make 500k a year?
In the world.
In the world.
Okay, well, let's be honest here.
In the rest of the world, the people aren't going to even have the ability to make that kind of money, so we only have to go to the United States and first world countries.
And that's not many.
That's not many.
And is it ugly?
Is it weird?
The amount of money you just express, like, dude, that's the top 1% in the United States, which is the richest country in the world.
You're telling me only 1% of men make $500,000?
Okay, that's on paper?
That's in real life.
And you're assuming that they only want you.
I didn't say that at all.
No, no, but I'm just saying that's going to be an assumption because if they're going to date you, it's only you.
Yeah, the top 1% earning in the United States earns somewhere around $450,000 a year.
That's true shit.
That's real.
I don't know.
Honestly, that's what I said.
I'm currently not even interested in it.
I'm just working and getting my money up.
I want to go to school and get shit done.
So that way my name and my person looks good when I want a husband.
But y'all said y'all was going to quit y'all's job for that.
Girl, okay, one day my titties, they're going to sag.
One day my ass is going to flatten.
So why would this guy want you?
The fuck?
You got going on.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
I'm going to try to get higher than Booby Trap, see if they're higher than your ass.
Girl, I don't care.
It's subjective.
Okay, going back.
And you're not the subject.
It's been the topic of tonight is subjective.
What about you?
Are you willing to accept the fact that your profession is going to limit your ability to find a man since you want a husband?
Am I willing to accept that?
Yes.
How much does your guy got to earn per year?
Because obviously you said it's for paying your bills so you have a financial requirement.
How much does your guy got to make a year?
I don't know.
I don't have a dead set amount of what I make right now.
What's the bare minimum you would accept?
But bare minimum would just, I guess, a little above mid-class.
Like, just financially comfortable.
Give us a number.
What would he have to make bare minimum to be able to get you to quit?
70,000?
60,000?
Oh, she's humble.
I mean, really, like, I don't...
Yeah, I mean, I'm just being honest, actually.
Okay, all right.
Who else is...
How much would a guy have to make for you to quit?
It's not about how much he makes.
But 150k would be nice a year.
But yeah, it's definitely not about how much he makes.
It's about how he treats me, what he's willing to do for me outside of money.
And then we can talk.
So only about 10 to 15% of the entire American population makes $100,000 a year.
That's a little better statistic.
Yeah, but you got to keep in mind that accounts for men, women, married men, and that's not $150,000.
It becomes less at $150,000.
So it's less than 10% for $150,000 per year.
This doesn't account for the man being charming, dressing well, not stinking, not being socially awkward, not being married.
Being straight.
Being attractive enough for you.
So the money is just the first factor that limits it.
Then you have to go into all the other things.
Being clean.
I mean, so the chances are fairly slim.
And then why would he pick you when he can pick another girl that doesn't have that stuff?
That's up to him.
I said $150k would be nice.
No, I get that.
But I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to give you guys, like, the reality of, like, what you want, given what you're offering, doesn't match up.
I would like to make $150k.
I don't give a fuck what he makes as long as he's treating me right.
I haven't settled down because, yeah.
You date bums?
No, hell no.
So obviously how much they make matters.
You said a second ago, I don't care how much he makes, but you do care.
This is crazy.
Okay.
All right.
Let's finish this.
We'll continue on.
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You guys have a response to him saying that black women are perpetuating that stereotype?
I'm going to say, people will always say black women are undesirable.
Who gives a fuck?
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I'm about to say the masculinity was coming from the others, but next.
And I was trying for it.
Right now, in the chat, leave black queens alone, okay?
Please, because we're not the masculine ones in the room.
I'm about to say, y'all prefer what you prefer.
Y'all are masculine, too, though.
You two are masculine, too.
I mean, it's not just her.
There's a couple masculine women on the panel.
And she's, like, 40% black, so...
That is true.
25.
Yeah, see?
But remember, he was just saying the stereotype.
You guys are perpetuating the stereotype was his argument.
And I would say that you guys kind of are perpetuating the stereotype.
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Next.
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That's not right.
You know what I'm saying?
After I told you, who dictates the show?
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But you're still saying next.
Next.
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I mean, you can be quiet.
That's fine.
That always works, typically.
Silence.
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Okay.
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I might be.
Whatever the men say.
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Damn.
Well, but here's the thing.
They even named a guy that is exceptional and they still won't leave.
Question.
Why would a high-value man trade a current girl in his rotation for you?
Hey!
I could go on the table on that one real quick.
Why should a guy pick you over another girl that he's dealing with?
High-status guy who has options.
Go ahead, shoot.
Because if he gets to know me, I could put him in a position.
Not financially, but I could put him in a position mentally, spiritually.
What are you going to do?
I'm going to support him.
I'm going to give him massages.
I'm going to show him love.
I'm going to build him up.
That's it.
That's what you need.
I mean, he could go hire a masseuse.
*laughter* And he already has a chick doing that But that's what you would do?
Okay, alright You would put him in position spiritually, okay What about you?
For you Why would a high value man trade a current girl in his rotation for me?
A guy that's already attractive, right?
He has multiple chicks.
Why should he pick you over those other girls?
Well, there's no should.
You know, I'm a God-fearing woman and I I don't know I feel like I have like a very specific spiritual hygiene and you know if I don't match with me I love that word yeah I you know it's it's hard to explain to men because they're all about can you define what a spiritual hygiene is absolutely well it's hard explaining myself to you guys because you guys are men that are logical but women were led by the unseen and I'm very spiritual and
I If you don't pray, if you don't believe in God, if you don't put God first, and I'm talking about Yahweh, Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ, not all these other gods.
What religion do you subscribe to?
Christianity.
I was raised Pentecostal and then Seventh-day Adventist, but I have came back to Christianity as an adult.
So very, you know, religious growing up.
But I don't know.
When I said I was praying for a husband, I mean that.
I think that God literally handmade a husband and a wife for each individual.
And it's not about...
I know that sounds like not logical, but that's what I believe.
And so when I say I'm praying and I'm magnetizing, because manifestation is manipulation.
That's what manifesting is.
Magnetizing is what femininity is.
We Women are receivers.
Men are electricity.
So it's like a magnet.
And yeah, I think that there's one man for every woman.
I think that women are supposed to be married.
And I think that's the highest calling as a woman, is to be married.
And I think that God...
So, you know, maybe a high-value man isn't even what I want.
I want who God wants me to want.
And yeah, spiritual hygiene is a real thing.
Yeah.
They can't drink.
No alcohol at all, even though I drank tonight for the first time.
I'm sober.
I had a drink tonight for the first time in like a year, but it was like one shot.
And I was feeling kind of dizzy.
Seems to me as though you were just kind of letting life come and you're hoping and praying.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not hoping and praying and just letting life come.
I'm very intentional.
I think every day is a ceremony and the world is my altar.
The way that I think, the way that I consume on the internet, the way that I eat and drink, the water that I drink, everything is very intentional.
We live in a chemical.
Everything is like chemicals nowadays.
It's like BDL, GMO, godless.
Modern society is fun.
Basically, your faith in God is going to bring the man to you.
Absolutely.
And I think that God handmade one man for me.
So I don't...
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if a high value man...
Do you think the guy that you're currently with right now is that handmade guy that God made for you?
You know, it's hard because being in a modern society in 2022...
Relationships...
Are so distorted, and everybody is so programmed, and especially with social media.
But do you think that guy is the guy?
No.
Yes or no?
No.
So why waste your time with him?
So that's what I was going to try to get to.
I think that every individual is made to...
It's like a thread.
And...
I'm listening.
Continue.
Don't worry about them.
I don't know.
It's hard because I feel like God brought him into my life.
But do I think that he's going to marry me?
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
I need to stop you there.
You said you're Christian, right?
Absolutely.
Oh, shit.
So, God brought him into your life.
Yep.
Y'all fucking...
We fucked.
X. Gone.
That's cap.
That's cap.
And you're probably right.
You're probably right.
So this all special Heidi bullshit is trash.
Anyhow.
It's garbage.
It's not trash.
It's not trash.
Just say you want a nigga to take you serious and you want to smash.
But don't call it Christianity because it's not Christianity.
Because you know what time it is.
If you're a Christian, you don't have sex before marriage.
That's bullshit.
If you're a Christian, that's not bullshit.
What kind of Christian are you?
So you guys are religious and you've never had sex before marriage?
Cap.
No, no.
I'm saying if you made that choice moving forward, that's what it should be if you're going to be a Christian.
It's a difference.
You believe in God.
God brought you that man, but you still smashed him twice.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So is he really sent from God?
You think?
Yeah. - I do. - All right, brother.
- Okay. - Let's get to the bottom of it today.
Whenever you speak, you confuse me.
Literally, I'm confused whenever you speak.
I don't know how you do that.
Shout out to you.
Shit, I even lost the question here.
The question was...
Next.
No, just kidding.
Why would he choose you?
Yeah, why would he choose you over kicking another girl that he's dealing with?
What redeeming quality would you do to replace her?
He'd just have to come see and find out.
I could teach him things, probably.
Oh, okay.
What would you teach him?
OnlyFansTricks.
What would you teach him?
If he's the right man, he just come see and find out.
Okay.
He gonna find out.
What about you?
If he's already dealing with a girl, he ain't gotta pick me.
Thank you.
That's what I was about to say.
Exactly.
I'm not gonna persuade him to leave a girl that he's already talking to for me.
Realistically speaking, have you ever heard the term that if you get a bad chick, it means you took her from someone else?
No.
Have you ever heard that phrase before?
I've never heard that.
I took my husband from someone else.
But the reality is, if you get a bad chick, that means you took her from someone else.
You do realize that if you got a higher status guy, he's going to have other women, right?
That's just how it is.
Men aren't monogamous by nature.
They're not monogamous by nature.
We're not, no.
You can't be faithful.
No.
Do you think a man that worked his ass off to make a bunch of money, become successful, have status, etc., is going to have sex with one girl?
No, you're right.
You're not.
So you guys can have sex before marriage, but we can't?
Well, I'm not saying what can and can't be done.
I'm not saying that because I'm not claiming to be religious.
I'm just speaking from a straight biology standpoint that women, I mean, men are not designed to be monogamous versus women are to a more significant degree.
Absolutely.
So, I mean, so what I'm trying to say here is that if you meet a high value guy, he's going to have other bitches.
So what would you do to get him?
Not bitches.
He's gonna have other women.
Like, you're gonna have to compete.
I don't know why you're saying, like, oh, no, I just wouldn't compete.
It's like, okay, there's not enough of these guys to go around.
You have to compete.
That's life.
I would want a little competition with a man, too.
Like, I would want to know that there's other women that want him.
Okay.
Fair enough.
What you just stated, actually, is a biological fact, by the way, despite women don't want to admit that.
Yeah, that's true.
When they're in a relationship, I feel like they're more attractive for some reason.
Is that not true?
You know what's fascinating, though?
No, that's right.
No, it is true.
You're denying it.
I haven't denied nothing today.
Someone said it's not true.
But it's been empirically proven that women prefer men that have other women.
But it's not the other way for men, though.
You don't think?
Is it proven or...
Okay, when a guy's in a section at the club, right, and I like to use the club because it's one of the most primitive ways to look at human beings in their natural setting in modern day society.
Where are all the women concentrated?
With the guy with all the girls.
Fantastic.
So, but are you going to see girls and a bunch of dudes in a section?
No.
Because it's a status symbol when a man can attract a bunch of women, but a girl surrounded by a bunch of dudes is a turnoff.
Yep.
Okay.
That's the difference.
Cool.
Alright, so she ain't competing.
Fantastic.
What about you?
How would you take a high-value man from another girl?
What qualities do you have that differentiates you?
I have the ability to take collective criticism.
I'm a balanced person.
I'm understanding.
So, I don't know.
I feel like those would be traits that a man with a woman would look at.
Do you think that's a fair trait for a guy making $500k per year though?
You got high standards.
I feel like any woman looking for a husband to settle down and have children should have those kinds of standards.
I'm not looking to do that anytime soon, by the way.
I didn't say I wanted to, but if the day I do look for a husband and for somebody to have children with, yeah, I have those standards.
Realistically speaking though, you're saying every woman should choose that, but does every woman qualify for a guy that makes that kind of money?
No.
I wouldn't say I qualify.
I wouldn't say I qualify.
That's what I want, but I wouldn't say I qualify.
I say I still have some growing up to do.
I say I still have some changes to make about myself, which I am.
By the way, guys, currently sober.
About to get back into school.
I'm getting my life together.
Good job.
I'm getting sober.
Yeah, it's not something I want to do for life.
It's not something I'm proud of.
It's something that with the circumstances I've been given, that's how I'm dealing with it, you know, right now.
But am I going to change that?
Of course.
Do I want to build up for a man to want to give me that kind of life?
Yes.
So what age would you start looking for a husband at?
Honestly, I want to be done with what I'm doing by 24-ish.
Okay, so you're 22, right?
I'm 22 right now.
I need like two years to get my shit together.
And I've already started.
I'm on the path.
So I think, yeah, I think men like seeing change even though women don't like changing.
To be honest, we just want a girl that didn't have to change in the first place.
I'm going to be a thousand with you.
Very much so true.
We just want a girl that comes with no baggage, no history.
But what are the chances?
You're in Miami.
What are the chances?
Well, here's the thing.
That's why a lot of guys go other places.
I mean, can't turn a hoe into a housewife.
Yeah, I mean, guys would prefer that the odometer was on zero or close to it versus it's been refurbished and the odometer's on 100k, but it looks new.
And also understanding, I feel like this has been said a lot, just because some of us have sex work, some of us have OnlyFans or strippers, that does not mean we belong to the streets.
You know where I go after work?
Home, to my bed, to sleep.
How much do you want to bet?
I'm not doubting that at all.
But honestly speaking, if a guy came up to you at the club but he wasn't attractive, would you give him a chance?
Like, he was ugly and he kind of stuttered when he spoke and had a limp?
Would you give him a chance?
I talk to all kinds of men regularly and daily.
From a romantic standpoint, would you give him a chance, realistically speaking?
If he was ugly?
Yeah, not the most attractive guy.
Like Chris?
I think I... Chris is not like ugly.
My point is would you give that guy a chance if he had a little bit, some defects, some physical defects?
Would you give him a chance?
I feel like I would give him No, I was looking at him being crazy.
I want to hear what he has to say for the first 15 minutes of his conversation.
Well, he has a little bit of a tick when he talks.
Like he stutters?
Like Chris.
Like Chris.
You want to give him a shot, right?
No, I grew up with a little brother with disabilities, so no.
Yeah.
I wouldn't.
So my thing is, right, you judge the book by its cover.
No, I wouldn't judge.
No.
My point is, you're missing what I'm trying to say here.
You made a decision.
You're not going to give him a chance.
You judge the book by its cover, which is cool.
That's human being nature.
I didn't say that.
You declined him.
No, I didn't say that.
I said no, I wouldn't judge him.
But you wouldn't go on a date with him.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I've done dated a man with a lazy eye already.
I really don't care.
So long as you make sense in the head.
Why you laughing though?
The point I'm trying to make here, I'm just trying to illustrate an example that all human beings judge a book by its cover.
So if you're involved in sex work, well, what's the keyword?
Sex.
People are going to assume you're fucking.
Whether you are or not.
That's one of the negatives of that profession.
I know.
So it comes with negative stigma.
I didn't say it didn't.
I'm just saying.
Because you're saying, well, that doesn't mean I'm always fucking, but I'm saying people are always going to assume they can't change that.
I'm speaking for myself here.
But most girls in your profession, especially the ones that make a lot of money, are fucking.
I don't want to speak for them either.
I don't know what goes on in between their legs.
I'm sure you do.
Myron's a man of God.
Look at Fresh being quiet.
I think Fresh is more of a man of God.
I never claimed to be a man of God.
Yes, he is.
He's a man of God.
Facts.
I admit that I'm not the most religious guy.
I'm just saying that that line of work is always going to be judged the book by its cover, which, you know, I always find it funny.
Girls get mad when they get judged, but I would argue women judge men way more than men judge women.
Generally.
I'm so fucking nonchalant.
You know that.
Okay.
What about you?
I don't argue.
I shut the fuck up.
I'm quiet.
I cook.
I clean.
I'm fun.
I like to be at home.
She needs a ring.
Yeah, she does.
I was going to ask the same question.
No shade.
I'm picky.
I guess I haven't really found anyone that I like.
How much money does your guy got to make bare minimum for you to give him a shot and take him seriously?
I I live in Miami.
What's your minimum?
If I'm going to stay at home.
If I'm going to stay at home, maybe like, I don't know, at least like 250k at least.
At least.
Annual?
Annual, right?
250k annual?
Yeah, at least.
That's like 21, 22k a month.
Alright.
What about you?
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
I don't know.
Like, if I'm in a relationship, my man always gonna be right.
No, but the question is, how would you get a guy that's high value to take you seriously over another girl that he's dealing with?
But if he's dealing with me, then he already taking me some sort of serious, right?
But I'm saying, how would you replace the other girl and be the main one?
What would you do?
You can never replace other girls if men cheat.
They do what they do.
Yeah, but you can absolutely be the main girl at the top of the totem pole.
How do you become number one?
Shit, just being loyal.
Loyal in what regard?
Loyal in every regard he wants me to be.
What if the other girl isn't fucking other dudes too?
But you can't fuck other dudes and expect the man to just fuck with you.
No, I'm saying she's being loyal to the other girl.
Loyalty is kind of like a default for a woman.
So that's what you would bring is loyalty, which is default trait.
I mean, everything goes too, but I really don't do it.
I mean, I don't do wifey stuff unless he's my man.
So I'm not going to be cooking.
I'm not going to be sleeping and doing all that.
I ain't going to be cleaning, watching the kids.
So he's got to marry you for you to do that.
I wouldn't say marry me, but you could not have other girlfriends.
No.
Shit.
Nah, nigga.
Nah.
But wouldn't it be fair to say that when a guy's dating you, he's testing you out?
So you would probably want to put on a good performance?
But I'm testing him too.
Yeah, nigga.
Yeah, but who's the employer?
Who's the employer?
Yeah, who's the employer?
The man or the woman?
The woman.
I would argue it's the other way around because the man is the one that gives you the relationship and the commitment.
He's the employer, you're the employee.
But you just said that- If you want to be vice president, don't you have to work up the ranks and become vice president?
But you just said we have our pick of many men.
We can have any man we want if we're pretty, right?
Yeah, but the man that you want, you have to compete for because there's very few of them.
There's plenty of pretty girls, not very high status men that you want.
I do agree, but I'm not competing over a man that got another girl because you already lost.
Period.
You already lost.
Okay, so you're not going to compete?
No.
You do realize the math doesn't add up there?
No.
If you're going to make me compete, I'm going to break my back and you're still going to do what you do?
What's more common, attractive women or high-status men?
Attractive women.
So doesn't that mean automatically supply and demand?
There's less men, so that means the girls got to compete?
No.
You don't have to do nothing.
Myron!
You can be an independent woman if you want to.
She doesn't understand the basic concept of supply and demand.
He is, I'm not.
You're on your own.
I'm with her.
I agree with her.
Okay, what about you?
Save us.
Please save us.
So if someone is already in a relationship or has already a girl...
What would you do to become the main girl?
I wouldn't even bother, honestly.
But if I want to actually be with that man, I want that man so bad, and I want him to be by my side and not that girl's side, then I can bring him loyalty, commitment, respect.
But wouldn't it be fair to say that's a requirement of any guy?
That's basic stuff.
You shouldn't be f***ing other guys in a relationship.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
For three basic stuff that I told you, what I will...
But the other girl's already giving him that.
But y'all ain't in a relationship.
Why would he pick you over the other girl?
I'm kidding.
You said what, pussy?
Pussy.
Pussy.
So you bring to the table some loyalty, commitment, and pussy.
Pussy.
Yo, this is crazy, bro.
Okay, what about you?
So she brings nothing, basically.
Great.
There's a bunch of liabilities.
is my Instagram Timena Timena I'm so young wait wait hold on - Do you go to the yin? - We should go to the yin. - What about you, Kim?
Where are you going to get that guy from that girl?
- Mo, let's go to the yin.
Mo, let's go to the Yim to get some pussy.
Say chuchu.
No manches way.
Oh shit!
Mono is Spanish!
Is that Spanish?
Yes, yes!
Mom made the pussy wet!
Okay, sorry, go ahead.
I'm very realistic in the sense that if this is a high-value man, I'm aware he's going to have multiple women.
So I'm not trying to replace her.
I just need to be added to, like, the main rotation.
That's it.
I can cook.
I just want to be your favorite.
I'm a really good cook.
I like cleaning.
I just want to be one of the mains ones.
I'm not tripping.
I'll be the only one.
Yeah, I just want to be the number one.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Understanding.
Fair enough.
All right, so we got some chats here and then let's head out of here.
Was that it?
Yeah.
Yo, two down from Fresh giving Juwanaman vibes.
I know that pH level is all over the charts because that masculinity is stinking the place.
You want to say back to him?
Is that child?
Yeah.
God bless you.
All right.
There you go.
Ozzy88.
Myron, is your original intro song available anywhere online?
Ladies, rate Myron and Fresh on Looks Only and Fresh and Myron will rate you back.
Shout out to the crew.
Should we do that?
Sure, we'd be happy to let you guys get your revenge.
No, no, y'all be able to shit on us.
It's fine.
Wait, the song?
Bro, we always put it in the description.
It's the Festa remix of Push It to the Limit.
We go around the table, have them rate us?
Do that last?
Yeah, last.
Yeah.
All right.
Don't worry, ladies.
You'll be able to rate us.
Johnny Black.
Shout out to Icy for putting the mittens on that fake Israeli chick.
That was for the ancestors right there.
She was an imposter anyway.
It was very refreshing.
Felt that in my soul.
Love Icy for that one.
All right, Johnny Black.
Are the women on the panel aware that if they do not adhere to the boundaries that mentally sound men want, the chances of them not having a family and further pushing this false matriarchal mindset to the good women who are programmed by a mainstream is very high.
I think girls are going to continue to do what benefits them and unfortunately that doesn't mean a family sometimes.
Crash TV, you have glasses.
Do you really think a high value man will want his children needing them?
You have five on your best day.
You can suck it.
I'm from New York.
Suck my dick.
Do you think a guy that makes Fondra Camp Rear is going to want a girl with a dick?
Oh, that must have just happened.
Oh, what the?
Just please, uh, take a seat.
This is a family show.
Twenty-five percent.
You can pray all you want.
Prayer's not getting any higher than the ceiling.
He's not coming.
Jesus has bigger things to worry about.
Okay, you have anything you want to say back to him?
Did that make you feel good?
Okay.
Irrational goes, Western women forget that they have an important role for humanity that will dictate our future as a species.
Strong families are secondary.
I'm leaving the country.
All right.
First is 2023, not 2022.
Second, this is for your hair follicles.
I'm losing my hair again.
Put them in a spiritual position.
It's called the missionary position.
And you ruined that tonight.
Spiritual hygiene?
Baptize your attitude.
It stinks.
Pfizer, Boone Farms, boxed wine, and local cat shelters.
Thank you, ladies.
Thank you, ladies, for the future patronage.
Anyone have anything to say back to that?
I don't like cats.
I work an average job at a warehouse making 80k a year plus with an eye condition, but you wouldn't know would you talk to me?
Oh, and 21, FNF lit tonight.
So we're going to go around and let the girls rate us now?
Rumble real quick.
Chazina, the warrior princess.
All right.
Yeah, after that time, definitely a warrior.
Debbie Zina for handling that.
Well, I see.
Okay.
Debbie Zina for finally getting claimed by Sneeko.
Don't mess up.
Okay.
Jesse Stay goes, the fourth girl on the first side looks like Sid from the Ice Age.
Wait, the fourth?
I think that'd be me.
No, girl.
Yeah, you look like Sid from Ice Age.
And Gloria from Madagascar had a baby.
Appreciate you guys for all the hard work and being an icon.
Appreciate it, bro.
To the Shaniqua 3 down from Fit, if money is so easy to make, the concept of 1% wouldn't exist.
Bitches really prove that they don't really know the most poor people on earth are men.
Watermelon each.
What?
I don't get it.
I don't get that.
W. Chris, I'm still wondering what you was going to say.
I'm good.
Okay.
And the last one, the archer.
Women demand that men change.
I like her.
You don't got a choice.
Okay, ladies, this is the last part of the show.
Let me all go home.
So we're going to rate...
They should rate us, right?
Yeah, they're going to rate us first.
Yeah, you can rate us.
One out of ten.
Should we tell them it's looks only or based on...
Okay, looks only.
Looks only.
I think looks only.
Listen, I'll let you pick.
How about we do two?
How about we do looks only and then, like, whole personality?
That's too much, man.
If you saw them from afar, how would you feel?
Look, because the thing is, it's confusing because with men, we're able to say, yo, we only care about looks so men are able to rate women based on looks.
But women use a bunch of different shit.
Money, income, confidence, ambition, all this bullshit.
So what do you ladies want to use?
Looks only or do you want to use the full package?
I'll let y'all pick.
Full package looks.
Raise your hands if you only want looks.
Raise your hands.
I don't know.
I want both.
Whatever.
I want both.
So only two girls only want...
Okay, so I guess full package then is what it is.
So go ahead.
And if you want to...
Delineate and be like, okay, your looks is this and then everything else is this.
You can do that too.
I'll give it to you guys open, whatever the hell you want.
Yeah, let's do that.
We'll start here?
Go ahead.
Speaking of packages, who I'm starting with?
Whoever you choose.
This is your chance to get revenge.
Go ahead.
How big is your package?
Who got the biggest in the world?
You don't know?
I'll measure it tomorrow.
Fresh vision.
I think we found our culprit.
Wait, what?
It's your turn.
Go ahead.
Or do you not want to answer?
If you don't want to answer, I'll move on.
It's cool.
Just looks.
We're not going to get mad.
I don't give a fuck.
Fantastic.
Go ahead.
Yeah, she don't want to answer.
Alright, cool.
I'm going to start with my own.
I think I have an eight.
Okay.
Is that just looks or everything?
Everything.
But looks, looks, I think you're like a 7.5.
Like a high 7.5.
Alright.
But with everything, you're definitely like a high 8.
Alright.
For sure.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Fresh looks, you're like a 2, bro.
I'm sorry.
You just made Chris's day.
No, no, no.
But your energy, I fuck with you.
Like, I love your confidence and, like, your personality.
Your personality, I'd say you're, like, an eight, like Myers.
With everything.
Chris is going to have a field day with Chris.
Should we wait Christmas?
You can wait, Chris.
Go ahead.
Sure.
Go ahead, Chris.
Put the camera on you, nigger.
Looks...
I'd say, like, a 6.5...
But his personality, I fuck with him.
He's like an 8.5 for sure.
I fuck with his energy.
Cool.
What about you?
You can be as raw.
We don't get offended.
Trust me.
Fresh, I would give you like a 4 on the looks.
But the personality is there.
I swear.
The personality is there.
You're cool.
But a 4 on the looks.
So that would probably level you up to like a 6.
Okay.
And then Myron, I would give you Probably an 8 on the look.
And like...
I can be brutal?
No, go ahead.
And then I'll probably give you like a 5 on the personality because I like a smart guy but not like I'm the smartest in the room type of guy.
It kind of gives that a little bit.
Well, I'd argue in this situation I definitely am.
But that's fine.
But yeah.
But okay.
That's okay.
You don't like the thing.
The non-agreeableness.
Fair enough.
I could take that.
No, you can't skip.
No, she can skip if she wants.
You don't want to say?
You're bogus.
Bro, we can take criticism, man.
It's fine.
Go for the chat.
Go for the content.
I'm not a mean person.
I can't do it.
I'm not a mean person.
She called on herself.
She'll do it after that.
Fix her a shot.
Maybe after that.
You want Hennessy?
Tito.
Okay, what about you?
Fresh, I'm gonna give you a three, looks-wise.
You're a cool guy, so I'll give you like a seven, personality-wise.
Myron, you're like a Six, mix-wise.
Okay.
And personality, I want to say you kind of have your head on straight, so I'll give you an eight.
Oh, shit.
I thought it'd be like a two or some shit.
All right.
What about you?
Fresh, I'll tell her you.
It's going to contribute to my answer.
5'10.
5'11, bro!
Almost 6 foot.
5'11, you're usually 5'10, 5'9.
So, I give you like a 6.5.
You have good energy, your confidence is high, you're nice, you're not an asshole, you're not too short!
And that's a totality?
Totality.
You're going not off looks, just totality?
I'm just totality.
I'm always totality.
That's fine.
Myron.
Like an 88.5 because you're tall.
He's got muscles.
You're tall.
You're fit.
You're successful.
I'm trying to self-improve.
You're dominant.
You're smart.
I like dominant men.
How tall are you?
6'3".
Can I ask how old you guys are too?
I've been wondering that.
How old are you?
33.
How old are you?
30.
How old is Chris?
34.
Oh, shit!
Was I supposed to rate Chris, too?
No.
Chris, can you flip the camera back, please?
Yeah, there you go.
Look at his eyes.
His eyes give you like a seven.
He looks like he's like a cuddler.
Yeah, you look like a teddy bear.
I feel like I could like snuggle for you and you'd be real like warm and like, you know, I don't know.
I love it.
I love it.
Yo.
Yo.
It sounds like a 7.
A 7.
Alright, cool.
Alright, what about you?
I feel like it's the best of all worlds up in here.
Everybody look good to me.
I mean, I give everybody a 10 on looks.
Goddamn.
Honestly, he's chocolate.
I love chocolate man.
I love big man.
And he just fine.
So, I feel like everybody get a 10 for looks.
Everybody gets a 10.
For looks.
It's not realistic because I don't think we're perfect, but that's fine.
What about you?
So, you're really chill.
I like you.
Your personality is awesome.
You're sweet.
You're not mean.
We'll in the year now.
See, but be.
I'll give you a seven.
All right.
You speak straight facts.
Honestly, you just speak straight facts.
You're smart.
I feel like you're really smart person.
I I feel like you'd like search of things before going on podcast.
I would hope so.
I like that you're fit.
I was looking at your muscles earlier.
Oh yeah?
What about Chris?
Wait, what's the number?
Oh, you said nine?
Nine.
Okay.
What about Chris?
Chris.
Let's go home, baby. Period. period.
Good job, Chris.
Yeah.
I will say this.
You were right about the warmness because no homo one time I was like, yo, Chris, it's cold as fuck out here, bro.
Let me borrow your hoodie.
Pause.
Yo, that shit was like fucking burning.
I was like, what the hell is going on?
Why does he got all this body?
He looks so snuggly.
I was like, yo, you got a fever?
What's wrong with you?
I thought this nigga was sick.
All right.
So yeah, you were on the money with that.
All right.
What about you?
I'll give you 5.5.
Chris, I want to see your reaction to that.
He loved this too much, bro.
Screw you, dog.
Y'all don't understand.
You guys are literally giving Chris content for weeks to talk shit to Fresh.
It's cool, man.
It's cool, Chris.
What's the highest number you've gotten, Fresh?
She gave him an 8.
Yeah, she gave him an 8.
I'd say a 10.
You mean this show or in general?
In general, like throughout all the podcasts?
I think I'm a 9.
There's been a few times where you beat me out.
The girls like darker guys.
You beat me out completely.
And the Lambos.
Shut up, Chris.
Alright, go ahead.
Sorry.
Yeah, 5.5 and a 9.5.
Alright, cool.
What about Chris?
Yes, what about Chris?
Look at those nostrils, bro.
What do you eat, bro?
You matched Fresh.
Okay.
Five?
Yeah.
Damn, Chris, you can't say he ugly now.
You matched him.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
I think...
What else?
Oh, and then the last thoughts.
Yeah, last thoughts.
Oh, the last thoughts on the show.
Go ahead, and then we'll work our way around.
It's always great to be here.
You guys are great.
The show's great.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for coming.
Thanks for coming.
It was really fun.
I love the drama and I love what's going on over here.
I liked it.
It's like interesting.
Dulce de leche.
Te gusta?
A mí también.
Uh-huh.
Oh.
Fresh likes Mexican girls too.
Yes, sir!
Shut up.
Fresh is a man of God.
What about you?
Fresh is a man of God.
I had fun even though, you know, I was cutting everybody off on my own.
I'm sorry.
That's Courtney.
Oh, wow.
She took accountability at the end of the show.
That's awesome.
Fantastic.
All right.
Thanks.
What about you?
It was good.
I liked it.
Happy to be here.
I actually listen to the show, and I'm the only women in the world that I feel like listens to this.
Oh.
You know, I will say this.
There's a surprising amount of girls that are starting to watch.
We're almost at 10% viewership for girls.
Still 90% men, but we're almost at 10%.
I feel like a lot of women watch, especially if Tate's on the show.
Yeah.
Then I'll always watch.
Okay.
He'll be back here soon.
Yeah, soon.
Good.
Call me in.
Yeah.
It was nice being back.
It was fun.
You've been out before?
Yeah.
I had red hair.
I was emotional damage, long-term relationships.
You guys kept calling it.
Emotional damage!
We're healed.
We're healed.
How long ago?
This was probably in June or July.
Something like that.
It was with Smiley.
Jordans of Diamonds.
Yeah, it was Smiley.
It was a while back.
It's been a minute.
When you said you had red hair, you looked way different?
Oh yeah, I was going through it.
Yeah, you were going through it alright.
Yeah, we're healed.
We're better.
But now she's awesome.
She's cool.
So, welcome back.
Okay, you know her too because you be going to booby trap all the time.
Well, I used to not anymore.
I'm a man of God now.
Yes, sir.
What about you?
Your final thoughts?
Hate us, love us.
I had a great time.
Thank you guys so much for having me.
You can say it sucked.
No, it did not suck.
I had a good time.
Did you learn anything?
Did you learn anything or no?
No, I didn't learn anything.
Okay, I can take that.
What about you?
I think we had a good talk.
It was fun.
I enjoyed meeting you ladies.
It was a good debate.
It was just a good time.
I enjoyed it.
I didn't watch it before I did it, but I'll probably start watching after this.
Wow, you came in blind?
I came in so blind.
A lot of girls watch the show with their girlfriends or their husbands and stuff like that.
Boyfriends.
Well, a lot of couples watch it and then girls with their boyfriends too.
Hey, man, I'd be saying, if girls actually listen to the podcast and put their feelings aside, we will teach y'all how to find a man.
Easy.
Could I? They need to read the book?
What?
Comment on that?
Huh?
Go on, sure.
Ever since I started listening to, like, this thing, this is when I started picking up cues of, like, I wanted a high-value man forever, but, like, I realize now what they want from listening to this kind of stuff and, like, entertain.
And I feel like women will take little clips you see on the internet, and then you'll judge and be like, oh, that's anti, like, I'm just crap, whatever.
But I feel like when you actually sit and listen to the whole episode, like, Hours of and listen to the whole discussion, then you actually understand the point of views and sides where you guys are coming from.
Prior to listening to our podcast or listening to Andrew or whatever it may be, did you like have zero clue of what higher status men wanted back from their girl?
Absolutely.
Zero clue.
One hundred percent.
And I actually had like a high value guy that I met that I like really, really, really liked.
Like I was very interested in, but I was like clinging and annoying and I wanted all this attention.
And I like talk back and argue points all the time.
And like he was left and I still am like sad about that.
Was it because, like, you thought, like, oh, guys like confident, ambitious women that can challenge them?
Is that why?
Yeah, I kind of more so thought about it as, like, men want to solve our problems.
But, like...
They don't want to hear you complain all the time.
Like, I feel like now I've kind of realized like men want women to be their piece, especially if you're like successful, high value, and you deal with a lot of stress on a day to day, especially in business and things like that.
Like, so when, you know, they have time to talk with you at the end of the day, they don't have time to text back and forth and answer a million FaceTimes and phone calls.
And they're not just sitting around, you know, they have things to do.
So when they finally do get that moment to talk to you, they don't want to hear 8 million complaints about how terrible your life is and how terrible your day was and how this went wrong and stupid shit that doesn't matter and hear you complain and complain and complain because it's more stress.
Okay, cool.
I'll take that.
I'm glad that it helped you.
Awesome.
Because even if it's able to connect dots as to why your last relationship failed, that's still a W because lessons learned, right?
All right.
What about you?
Shout out Daddy Tate.
He's the reason why I found this podcast.
And yeah, I love it.
I love the range of emotion and I enjoy the constructive criticism, even if I have a wrestling bitch face and I come off like a fucking asshole.
You know, once you get to know me, I'm the sweetest, most lovable, most giving person.
It's one of my, you know, personal traits and qualities that can't be bought.
And I know, you know, first impressions are not my forte.
And I'm willing to take accountability, but I appreciate you guys having me on.
And yeah.
All right, cool.
What about you?
Thank you for having me.
I had a really good time.
You don't gotta lie.
You can say fuck yeah.
I'm not lying.
I really enjoyed everybody's personality.
I'm about to say it was all over the place, but I like that type of shit.
I like chaos.
I do.
I like chaos.
All right.
Cool.
This was a great show.
Sorry, we got three more chats.
Okay, we'll run through these.
Thanks for rating, but remember Myron and Fresh to rate them too.
Also, Myron, when I said original intro, I meant the intro you guys used before this one.
Is it available anywhere?
I love that song.
Thank you guys.
It's the same exact intro.
So they want us to rate the girls?
Fresh, you go first.
Before we go.
I'm good, bro.
Alright, ladies, don't go down the route of modern women.
Be feminine.
Find a good man and keep him.
Question for the team.
How to go about contacting you guys to expand the show down here in Bali, Indonesia.
Tons of girls to interview and move the brand forward.
If we were to do another FNF in another location, bro, we'd probably do one in Dubai before we did one in Dubai.
Because you guys know I like Dubai a lot.
Dubai's fun.
Sometimes.
Awesome show tonight.
Well, you hate it, but I like it.
Awesome show tonight.
Thank you for all the quality content.
Best live podcast.
Hands down.
Keep up the great work.
Y'all appreciate that.
Nicole, too smooth.
All I thought about this podcast is that the one guy that called in last week bitching about Sneeko on blank women.
By the way, Myron definitely wasn't being argumentative.
He had Jesus today.
Fair enough.
All right.
I think...
All right, guys.
We'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh and Fit.
Friday.
I don't think the girls really care about our ratings.
Who gives a fuck?
They're going to get a bunch of attention from dudes anyway.
They don't need us.
Don't matter.
Our validation.
So, all right.
Cool.
We'll catch you guys on the next episode on Friday.
Probably going to be a call-in show or maybe a special guest.
And, yeah.
See you guys soon.
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