Waka Flocka On Overcoming The Streets, Rise In Rap, & MORE!
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Welcome to the podcast, man.
We're happy to have you.
Thanks for having me, my boy.
So, we know who you are.
Legend of hip-hop game.
But some of the audience may not know.
Can you introduce yourself to the people real quick?
They call me Waka Flocka Flame.
I'm an entertainer.
That's just about it.
And I just hustle.
I just hustle.
I just use music as a trampoline.
I just hustle.
Fair enough.
Go ahead, first.
You want to kick it off?
Yeah.
So, obviously, speaking of right, we know Waka Faka from back in the day, you know, from the streets, made a name for himself, met a bunch of artists as well, came up.
But what was life like in childhood back then?
For example, growing up with your family, school, what was it like for you?
Life like for me?
Yeah.
Fun.
Fun?
My whole life was fun.
My whole entire life was like literally being in a big-ass party.
It was definitely a big ass party.
It always felt like somebody was watching me every day of my life.
So mom and dad, pretty much regular school life?
Nah, it ain't regular school life.
My father was just a different human being.
I couldn't tell people who my dad was when I was younger.
But everybody knew me from my mother.
So it was kind of weird and shit.
So my family was, I was like the kind of kid that'd be in a wrong neighborhood.
They'd be like, oh that's such and such son, or such and such nephew, let him go.
Like that kind of vibe.
What'd your dad do?
He's just a good neighborhood guy.
Well known.
Good neighborhood.
Cool.
Did you grow up with him in your life?
Nah, my pops was in jail.
My pops was my hero though.
Because my pops went to jail basically trying to support us.
And not in the most pleasant way, but shit.
To me, I always idolized that.
Because I was like, damn.
Being a man, I idolized that.
Excuse me.
As a kid, I despised it.
It's like, God damn, you left us?
What my mother liked?
But growing up, to see a man at risk, his whole entire freedom, that was his only way of doing it.
To provide for us, to me, I idolized that.
I see, yo, the shit I'm going to do in life, I never risk my freedom and leave my family.
No matter...
No matter what's on the plate, no matter how much money, how big of the opportunity it is, no matter what it is, me selling myself or selling out for some cash is me leaving my family behind.
So I always stuck to that.
I learned that from my pops.
Okay, so you've got to learn from his mistakes.
Definitely a strong guy.
Muslim guy, strong guy.
Okay.
Did he convert when he was in?
I'm not sure.
He's definitely Muslim outside of that.
Okay.
So growing up, where are you from originally?
Originally, I'm from Jamaica, Queens, New York.
Okay.
And how long did you live there?
I stayed in Jamaica, Queens.
I was in fifth grade.
I left.
Went to the Swats in Atlanta by Camden Road next to Allison Court.
They called it Brickwood.
When I got near, it was Park at Lakewood.
I moved from Brickwood to Clayton County.
I lived in the Swats for like a year and a half, two years.
Then we left and moved to Clayton County in seventh grade and up.
I was raised in Clayton County.
What was that like transitioning from New York to being in the South?
It felt like I jumped in the time machine.
Going backwards?
Yeah, I really felt like I was going backwards because us as fifth graders in New York...
What year was this, roughly?
Shit, I'm 37.
I'm 37.
So you could go backwards.
I'm class of old four.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So you go backwards.
So this is like the late 90s?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was late 90s.
Late 90s.
Definitely.
It's like 92s.
Because I'm 33.
It's like 92s, 93s.
Yeah.
Anywhere from 92 to 95.
A fifth grader then, we had them there like high school.
Yeah.
In Georgia, like eighth grade is a high school.
Yeah.
So we was way more hip.
We was way more equipped.
We was self-sufficient.
By the first time when I got to Atlanta, kids still was like depending on the family.
They would stay outside playing.
Yeah.
It was like a vibe.
I'm like, oh shit, they got teen clubs.
Motherfuckers.
I'm like, yo, I call my cousin like, yo, this shit is crazy.
I'm staying down here.
So you liked a lot better than New York?
Yeah, the second time, the first time, I was on my extra New York show, like, yo, I'm out, nigga.
I was like, WooWear was coming out then.
I'm like, nigga, I'm about to rock my WooWear shit.
My Uncle Bim, he was getting all the free rapper stuff.
So all the industry stuff was always coming to our family.
So I was getting all like, you know, I was one of them, just outside.
But then I ended up coming back to Georgia and freak Nick Poplar.
I came back.
I almost fainted.
I had a...
Oh, my nose was bleeding the second time I came.
It was that fucking hot.
I had a big-ass woo-woo shit on with Timberlands.
I just seen girls, like, shaking ass.
It's like, yo, that's the male right there.
I'm like, what?
It was just crazy.
It was bliss.
So you left, so you come down in fifth grade, and then you left, and you went back to New York, and then you came back again?
No, I left this summer and went a little bit into fifth grade of the school year, and then I got into a little problems, and I just moved back to Georgia with my mother.
Okay, so you went back to New York, got in trouble, and then came back again the second time.
Back then, do you have a job at all?
Job.
Back then?
Or did you want to work at all back then?
Yeah, my job was just, it was my odds.
It was my ears.
I got paid for that.
What does that mean?
Shit, use your brain.
Okay.
I know what he means by that.
Okay, so you graduated high school in 2004.
No, I didn't graduate high school.
You didn't graduate?
No, actually, I was one of them people like, I never skipped class, by the way.
To me, people that skipped class were just the dumbest motherfuckers in her.
I'm like, why the fuck come to school if you don't skip class?
It's dumb.
I never came to school high.
I never came to school drunk.
None of that shit.
Because I still, I was just, my mother and my grandmother embedded the adult fear in me.
I was just so scared to disrespect an adult because my grandmother came to school and whooped my ass before.
And my mother is not the one.
I'm telling you, bro, my mom would knock.
If you're a son, she'll knock your ass out at the lunchroom.
Well, I'm dead serious.
So to me, to have respect was different.
And plus, I know I wasn't living the most pleasant lifestyle at the time.
So I was like, oh, anything I could take attention off of me, I'm with it.
So I was one of them.
So did you end up dropping out?
Yeah.
Okay.
I got kicked out.
You got?
Yeah, gang stuff.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
You got, like, gonna fuck somebody up, or they just were, like, associated with these people?
I was just the affiliation, and I was just fucking up people's face cards for, like, my nephew in this school, and it was just bad.
I was going to school, like, gang jeans.
I put fucking Hit Squad on my jeans.
Like, fuck y'all, niggas.
Like, I'm coming.
I was just bugging up.
What started Hit Squad?
Huh?
What started Hit Squad?
I don't know, man.
It's just a whole bunch of neighborhood friends.
It's a neighborhood thing.
Okay.
Cool, happy guys.
So you dropped out of high school and then what at that point?
You're what, maybe 15, 16 at this point?
No, this is the problem with what happened in high school.
So in school, like the first week I was about to play the game, like I'm suited up.
I was about to play ninth grade basketball.
Okay.
I get into a fight.
Okay.
Damn.
This is when these guys damn near trying to jump me.
My brother jumped in.
People didn't know I had a brother.
So I got suspended a week before the two-week break.
Okay.
So that mean I damn near lost a month out of school work.
So by the time I get back to school that following week, I got to miss that week too.
So that's four weeks.
So I'm like, fuck.
I'm like, I missed all this course.
Like, it's all good.
Why can't you still play?
And I had to do suicides and push-ups and shit.
I was with it.
I wanted to be outside, man.
I ain't gonna lie.
I wanted to be outside.
I gave up.
I didn't have it.
I didn't believe in myself.
I believed in the streets because that shit was right then and there.
Plus, my mother was doing like foundation stuff.
I barely see my mother.
She got to cook dinner damn near on her way from her.
She used to work.
She used to have this one job, then work at Dollar General part-time, then work for the city doing like child services and shit.
Yeah.
So when she come home for a part-time job, she's already cooking dinner and shit.
So for me, my mother is my God.
That's my hero.
So it's a big difference.
So I'm on a podcast like this, but to me, nigga, a woman is God to me.
My mama, she's God to me.
This is a woman I've never seen.
I've never seen her drink in my life, smoke in my life.
I've never seen her lay in a bed with men in my life.
I've never seen her, like, complain.
I've never heard my mother say, I got too many fucking kids.
I can't take care of, like...
I just seen a...
That's the first part I seen with a gun, a million dollars, a fast car, a jury, a boss, everything.
How many siblings did you have?
I got four brothers, one sister.
And y'all were all living together at the time?
Yeah, periodically, yeah.
But all my brothers, we definitely lived together.
Alright, so going back, just so people kind of get an idea.
So, ninth grade, you got suspended?
The idea of it.
In elementary school, we live in elementary school.
My mother left New York because that's back when she got shot, basically.
Lifestyle was real.
She's like, fuck, I'm going to change my life.
So, while she moved to Georgia, my grandmother kept us.
So, she got her life together, and now we moved back down there.
So, that's how that happened.
So she was stabilized by the time y'all went down to Georgia.
She had some stuff set up.
You said she had a couple jobs.
For the most part, you know, the Section A's, the government assistance, the food stamps.
She just made it look good, my boy.
But I couldn't even point out, like, but one job.
Everything else was just a hustler.
Like, she's gonna get it.
Like, it's no...
My mother never told me, yo, Walker, go make money today.
Yo, Walker, go to school, make money.
To this day, I never in my life heard her say that.
I don't think we promoted that.
She got an ill way of showing love.
She don't tell you I love you.
She fucking show you.
You wouldn't even get love confused.
So for a nigga like me, I know what love is.
That's why I really don't complain about shit because I know what it is.
So you get suspended from school for that month and then you decide, you know, I'm just going to drop out because you were gone for a month.
I'm like, fucking, I'm gangbanging.
That shit was fun too.
Are you 14 at this time?
15?
Yeah, I was like 15, 16.
It was just fun.
The streets was fun.
I wasn't even in the streets for all the money.
I wanted respect.
My shit was just straight respect.
And it was fun as a motherfucker.
It was just fun.
And reality kicked in.
How important is respect in the streets?
How important is respect in the streets?
As important as the spinal cord in your back.
Without that, you're done.
But with respect, you gotta have brain.
So a guy who wants respect first is a guy that's smart enough to know that.
So you gotta have brain power first.
So you said the streets were fun and then reality caught up to you.
How did that reality kick in?
Man, I see reality kicked in like when, probably not even like, probably the drugs.
I had a partner named Jon Jon.
Jon Jon was on Xanax.
Jumped off a moving truck.
Oh.
Yeah, when folks, when people were going to visit him, he didn't know nobody's name, but he's stable now, funny as fuck, but that fucked me up.
I had a younger homie named Trav.
He got killed.
The person that killed him was on ecstasy.
So, like, a lot of, like, for me, drugs did it for me.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I had another friend that killed two of our other friends.
He was in the backseat, blew their brains out, killed them.
So it's just like, what was he, like, it's just shit like that.
Like, it was too much.
I'm just, I can't cross a friend up.
It got to a point where I was going to start killing my friends.
You know what I mean?
And I'm going to be 100 with you.
I ain't had a heart to do that.
I ain't never in my life punched somebody in the face that I called my brother.
Like, I'm just not that kind of nigga in life.
I'm just keeping it funky with y'all.
So I had a choice, like, yo, I'm not raw.
Like, I had to tell myself, like, and rap showed me that.
Like, nigga, I'm not with that double-crossing shit.
Like, I never was in the streets to be a street nigga.
I was in the streets to learn, to capitalize, to make it, to have brotherhood.
That's why I was pushing whatever I was pushing outside.
I never did it to snatch a purse, bully a nigga.
He had a different color, wrong set, shit like that.
It was never that.
It was respect, money, organization.
That's what I was on.
But when that devilish shit started kicking in, when you're backstabbing each other, sleeping with each other with girlfriends, and there's too much conniving shit, I had to back up.
I just see my life ending in the wrong route.
How old were you when you came to this realization?
I was young.
I was like 18.
Okay.
So you've been in the streets for like two, three years at this point.
I was in the streets my whole life, my boy.
Okay.
Literally.
But I mean like after high school, I mean.
Nigga, literally.
After you left high school?
Nigga, literally.
I was around niggas that was...
Literally.
So it's just...
That's that.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a difference.
I wasn't in the streets.
I was born in it.
It's not like a...
It's not like a thing of choice.
This is the only lifestyle.
I never knew how to live life outside of street shit until I arrived.
Nigga, I never thought about no fucking...
Real estate or no financial literacy or no fucking taxes.
Like, who gives a fuck about taxes?
I'm in the streets.
Nigga, we don't pay taxes.
So it's a difference in who's teaching us, like, just being 100, right?
So it was that vibe.
I'm just real to who I am.
Like, I'm not trying to be...
That's just who I am.
But you know what's not about to me?
The whole time you were in the streets, you had integrity.
And I carried you through the whole process.
That's powerful, man.
I couldn't wait to get out.
I was the kind of guy that, I was the nigga that, when I get out, I'm going.
Like, I'm not coming back to smoke three blunts with y'all niggas and preach that I'm a real nigga.
No way.
That's not it.
Then I had people that were saying they OGs.
It's different.
I was born with my OGs.
So, my mothers, my uncles, like, they legends to me.
But in the streets, you still got other OGs.
And I started thinking, like, damn, these niggas brown and fuck.
Like, this nigga nigga got an LLC. You know what I'm saying?
Like, just being real, bro.
Like, I ain't know about bank accounts until I was 23.
It's not because my mama couldn't teach me.
She ain't got time to teach me.
My grandmama got an eighth grade education.
That shit stuck with me my whole life.
Like, Walker, you made it already.
Nigga, your grandmama got an eighth grade education.
Y'all good.
So if I got this far, I imagine what the next kids will do.
So that's how I think.
That's dope.
Okay, so you're 18 at this point and you realize, hey, this isn't for me because you see your friends backstabbing each other.
I've been seeing it wasn't for me.
16, 15, I've been seeing it.
I've been seeing this, but it's a difference, right?
I always hear people on the internet talk about people on the streets and they stupid and they this, they that.
See, y'all motherfuckers talking from a bird-eye view.
It's different.
See, people that's talking about it overstand it because they're looking over it.
These niggas are stuck in it.
This is where they eat breakfast at.
Lunch, dinner, think.
So it's different.
Like, when you're in it, you're like crabs in a bucket, basically.
You're like, nigga, I cannot wait to get something to pull me the fuck out.
Like, that's how it was.
Was rap your way out?
Rap was the only way I got out.
How'd you get into rap?
My mother.
I got locked up.
My mother was doing, like, Ludacris Foundation at the time.
It was Chris Love-a-loving shit on the radio in Pune.
I got locked up.
I was looking at, uh, I was looking at, uh, like, it's like a 5-10.
And my mother's like, I know somebody down there in the city.
I'm like, alright, my mom, just call me when you got something.
Because I was already in my mind, like, I'm going to jail, fuck it.
Let me just lock in.
What'd you get locked up for?
Uh...
Something dumb.
Saw it all shot.
Okay.
But they can look it up.
Fuck it.
They do everything.
But my mother, of course, like, walk a lie.
All right, let me talk to you.
I'm about to do, she said, you know how you talk to your parents and I throw your mind off shit?
She said, I'm about to do another community event.
I'm like, oh, she's like, well, Gooch and Jeezy.
I'm like, oh, go to Gooch.
And that's how it happened.
She's like, yo, I want you to go on the road.
I just want you to learn.
So I know if you're on the road, my mind is good.
Because I'm always, you call me every night, like, you all right?
You okay?
Like, I used to worry the fuck out of her.
So when I went on the road, I seen that my mother had a fresh breath of air.
This is right after you got out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I got out, so to me, I looked at, like, Goose, like, fuck it, we gotta become best friends.
So we became, like, damn near friends, like a big brother, little brother shit until we seen eye to eye with each other once upon a time.
But I just, I seen it as an investment for my mom, so I had to protect the investment.
And I just learned Like the game.
Because your mom knew that if you stayed in that environment, you wouldn't grow.
Nah, she didn't know that.
She learned me by being in that environment.
She didn't know half the shit I was doing.
Like, I'm going to see it.
She's like, what the fuck?
Like, you was doing this in my house?
Yeah, definitely.
Oh, damn.
So she didn't find out that you were doing all that stuff until you went to jail?
Yeah, until she hid shit.
One time a friend came like, hey, your son shot my house up.
It was like all kinds of shit.
Sporadically things, yeah.
I just don't like bragging about shit, my boy.
I'm a kind of nigga, if you don't believe it, don't believe it.
Thank God.
Damn.
So you go to jail.
How much time did you spend in there?
Zero.
Don't worry.
It was not prison.
Okay.
I don't know.
It was county jail.
I was just fighting.
Okay.
Yeah, I was stuck in there for like a couple months.
Okay.
So you're fighting your kids in the county jail?
Wow, that shit's real.
And then?
I got locked up the...
Like, yeah, it was just real.
It ain't worth shedding light on that part.
Yeah, the county jail sucks, bro.
Jail in general sucks.
Who the fuck wanna go to prison?
I don't wanna go there and come back diesel or smother.
Fuck outta here.
I sit free and read a book, nigga.
I'm not about to go to jail to read.
Hell nah.
Alright, so you were in there, and then your mom put you up with Gucci Mane.
Yeah, she told her to put me on the road.
What was that like meeting him the first time?
Um...
My first time, me and Gucci was at a club.
He was performing at a club.
He had a good local song that niggas that Rob loved.
We just loved their record.
It was our anthem.
You know what I mean?
Me and my partners.
He had some shit called In The Black Tee.
Like, yup, In My Black Tee.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is...
Oh, wow.
I'm trying to remember.
This is what, like 2007?
Yeah.
2007, 2007.
Okay.
And I see he was on stage back then.
And I... He's like, yo, man, yo, I got to perform.
You popping out.
I'm like, where you at?
He's like, trap.
I said, I'm here already.
I got a hundred niggas with me.
He's like, what, man?
I got a hundred niggas with me.
This is before he even know.
He think I'm like a mother's boy and shit.
I hang on my mother.
So we get there, and we got on stage, and we just was lit.
Like, people from Clayton County, where I'm from, do what I do.
Like, headbanging, treading, shaking, pushing, fighting, like, just on some gangsta shit.
It just go down.
And Goot seen that where it showed the next day.
My mother called me.
She's like, yo, Waka, what the fuck happened at the show?
I'm like, oh shit.
She found out what happened in the parking lot.
I'm like, oh shit.
I'm like, what?
What happened?
Ma tell me.
She was like, yo, they love this show.
They say, yo, Gucci new hype, man.
And him?
It's lit.
I'm like, hype, man.
The fuck is?
I didn't even know what the fuck there was.
And she was like, hype, man?
I'm like, bitch, I'm doing it.
I'm gone.
To me, I was gone.
I didn't give a fuck.
I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
In my mind, Shit, boy.
He was starting to meet.
We gone.
Okay.
So at that point, you knew.
That first show, you were there on stage with him.
Hey, I'm like, oh, y'all like that?
It's over.
We gone.
It's over.
What happened in the parking lot, though?
Fireworks.
Fireworks.
He got kicked out that motherfucker.
Yeah, that shit's crazy.
All right.
So y'all turned it up.
And then, so you went on tour with him right after that?
Yeah, we just started going on the road.
We just came like best friends.
Locked in.
Every day.
What was that like?
I really never even had a best friend in my life.
I was really like the first person I ever kicked shit with.
It was different because for once, life for me wasn't about me.
I was like, shit, let me let it be about y'all.
So it was really my mama and Gucci dream I'm living.
So it wasn't, people got it fucked up like Walker and Gucci.
Nah, I was living my mama and Gucci dream.
Then it turned into my mama Gucci and Young Juice dream.
Then it turned into my mother Gucci, Juice, Woo and Frenchie dream.
So it's like I'm watching them.
So that shit was just kind of better.
You know what I mean?
I escaped my life.
Like, damn, I'm gone from that shit.
Like, three, four, five, six months.
My mouth dry shit.
I was gone.
I was away from basically the gangster shit.
You know what I mean?
Six months.
I come back, nigga's like, oh, you rich.
I'm like, rich?
What the hell?
I only got 2,000 in my pocket.
Tripping.
Did you ever think scanning that moment with Gucci would change your life?
Um...
Nah, you know what's crazy?
Because when I got with Gucci, I seen him just like me.
I think if I never met Gucci, me and I probably wouldn't be alive.
Honest to God, true.
I think for me to even creditize anything, because there's a lot I did, it's a lot he did, right?
But the biggest thing I learned...
Over the years is, we needed each other to go forward.
It's a lot of shit that I protected him from that unconsciously that he don't know.
And it's a lot of shit that he unconsciously did that he don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, would he be this healthy?
Would I be this person?
Like, it's just a difference.
I've seen a lot.
I just feel like I endured more, though.
So I got to see, like, the effects of shit.
I still stay in contact with some people that we had shit going on with.
And I always thought to myself, I'm like, yo, every number one need a number two.
I kept saying that in my head.
I'm like, damn, if he could be Jordan, fuck it, let me be Scottie Pippen.
Right.
Because I don't rap anyway.
I don't give a fuck.
Right.
I just don't, I just, to me, I think everybody that call themselves number one need to find them a number two that want to learn.
That's a difference.
Don't find a number two that want to be you.
Find a number two that want to learn.
And you never know what that person evolving will become, but everybody need a number two.
And in corporate world, they call it an assistant.
You know what I'm saying?
On the streets with you on the blade, they call it an assistant pimp.
You know what I mean?
I've seen one of your interviews before, and you had mentioned how when Gucci was blowing up and he was really growing and people were starting to really catch on, that you kind of took it like, yo, our job is to make sure that he's good.
Like, he doesn't carry any bags.
We're going to make sure that he shines and he does well.
And I thought that was very interesting, that loyalty.
Where did that come from?
That's in me right now.
That's just what you sign up for.
This is just what it is.
I don't know, my boy.
I can't work with you and you be like, yo, you sick.
I'm like, all right, call me when you get healthy.
Nah, my nigga, yo, let's go to doctors, yo.
Come on, let's go to therapy.
My nigga's up.
That's just what it is.
I just...
I'm just not the person to be embarrassed.
Like, I never could stand next to y'all and be like, they see me too.
Man, fuck that.
I'm doing my job.
Hey, y'all watch out.
Hey, let them shine.
Like, a lot of artists today don't even have that guy.
Yeah.
A lot of artists today don't have a number two.
That's why they losing.
A real nigga today, I don't know what hood they from or anybody rapping, but if you got some real partners, I'd be like, bro, look, bro, you ain't gotta be spinning nowhere, nigga.
We need you free, nigga.
We trying to get up out of here.
Yeah.
I just had real partners like that.
Even though I'm going, my buddies is going too.
They're like, hell nah, we got this, bro.
Hell nah.
So I've really had those kind of partners, and we've really grabbed each other for it.
Like, I see how a lot of people are losing people today, but we really never lost anything.
So it's just different.
It's funny, because before we even met, right, I had people asking about you, about doing a podcast, stuff like that.
They say Waka's a genuine person, and that goes a long way.
So that's true, bro.
If you're genuine, you can try that to yourself as well.
Oh shit, I gotta shout out.
For real.
Okay, question brother.
So you got an AP on right now, right?
Yeah.
Plain Jane AP, no iced out, no chin right now.
I'm just curious.
Let's say, look, right?
I want to get into the rap game.
I want to shine, look the part.
How would you say you should come to the rap game through and through, like from the very beginning?
Shining, chin out.
How should you come to the rap game, you would say?
Depending on your style.
I think it's all in your style.
I think today, rappers who first get a single go get an iced out watch.
I don't think they should do that.
Start it back.
Yeah, slow down, my boy.
Put that dirty ad t-shirt on.
You know what I mean?
Put them local designers on.
Don't be jumping in Dior right out the box.
Because how your fans go graduate and grow with you.
So that's just the way I see it.
I think it fit the image, though.
What made you, like, just kind of, like, torn off of that, like...
Me toning down...
Excuse me.
It's a lot of shit, bro.
It's like people I've seen struggling.
And then I kept calling myself the boss.
I'm the CEO. Until I found out the CEO wasn't the boss.
I found out everybody was tricking me.
I never even monetized my YouTube channel because Warner Brother took it.
Damn.
Right now, held it hostage like on some black ball shit.
So I was banned from 20 plus states in America when I dropped.
I couldn't exceed.
So it's different.
You know what I'm saying?
So for me...
You're banned from 20 states?
Oh yeah, the music was crazy.
So it's just a different vibe with me, bro.
It's just a whole different vibe.
I had to go a whole different fucking route to be here.
What was the grounds that they, like, did they say, like, the music would, like, get the crowd too hype?
Just violent.
Too violent?
It was on some CB4 shit.
Wow.
Like, cannot play Sweat from my ball.
If you play, you're going to jail.
Wow.
That was a different vibe back then.
Fuck hard to pay.
People just stuck on, like, it was shit that was just, I had a song called, like, Mexicans.
They don't want to see us make it.
Blacks.
They don't want to see us make it.
Fuck the police.
That shit was about to, like, go crazy.
They're like, hey, did that.
Yeah.
But I didn't know.
That's the shit I was feeling.
I felt like they was, like, making Mexican and black people fight.
That's just my opinion.
That was back then, though, bro.
I was on shit like that.
That was saluting me and shooting me 2.5 before Hardin' the Pink.
Wow.
So I was talking this fly shit.
I'm talking right here.
Back then, my mind just...
Didn't develop.
I had no experience talking about that.
So, going back real quick to the Gucci stuff.
So, you guys were touring, making music.
You were his hype man.
Y'all were killing it.
Being in music videos, everything at that point.
So, is that when you really started getting money at that point?
Fuck no.
Nah?
I didn't make no money.
All respect to Gucci.
I didn't make nothing.
I'm getting $200 a show.
Damn.
And I didn't even want that.
I used to give that shit back to my boy.
I throw all the money in the club.
I'm like, bro, I ain't even with you for no money.
I'm good, bro.
I never was a...
If he throw on what the niggas was wearing, oh, Maury's and shit.
Yeah.
I'm like, nigga, I'll wear that shit after you done.
I'm not famous.
You are.
Yeah.
Like, that's in my mind.
But I was a white tee.
Levi, Cortez, Atlanta Brave hat wearing it as well.
So it's like...
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I had Capricio.
I was acting my age.
You see what I'm saying?
That's all.
I was just acting my age.
I made money when I rapped myself.
That's when my life changed.
My life then, I didn't, you gotta think, like, we didn't have no money coming up.
We lived with my mama.
Me and him.
Shit of Jack and Jill.
Tell us about that first time you got in the studio and started actually making music.
How did that start?
Did Gucci tell you, hey, you need to start rapping too?
By the way, he was in jail when I started rapping.
So Gucci was locked up a year, six months into his bed when I started rapping.
By the time Gucci got up, I already did 100 shows.
This is what year now at this point?
Probably 08.
08.
I'm trying to remember.
Was it for the gun charge?
I don't know.
It's just like some rap shit.
You know, probation has a rap.
It's tough.
It's temptation.
It's all kind of shit.
So he was in jail.
You start rapping.
Take us through that.
He got locked up.
He probably was like four months in.
I'm like, damn.
Like, I can't do nothing in the streets.
I'm hot as a motherfucker.
Like, I feel famous at this point.
Like, this shit is crazy.
And one day, I just went in the studio, bro.
I had zero dollars.
And I made, I fucked my money up.
I came back to engineer, produce that shit.
Made that shit sound like a record.
I'm like...
What was the name of the song?
The name of the song was Oh Let's Do It.
Before that song, I made a dumbass song called Ring, my phone going berserk.
Ring, I need some work because I'm in the traffic.
That shit, my very first song was We On The Way.
My second song was Dreads and Golds.
My third song was like The Ring.
Yeah, it was The Ring.
So you literally went in there with no money and you were able to record it and your engineer just did it for you.
I was giving my boy like $50.
Wow.
Whatever he charged for studio shit.
Okay.
You don't need all that extra cute ass studio shit.
Yeah, so you record the record.
When did you drop it?
Immediately.
Immediately?
Immediately.
Okay.
What happened then when you dropped it?
It just went dumb.
Radio?
Dumb, bro.
People just...
The people, bro.
I put zero marketing dollars.
We put zero dollars into it.
The people, bro.
That's all.
People could cheat algorithm all day to day, bro.
People fuck with you.
The algorithm can't fuck with it.
The algorithm gonna make algorithm off what people doing for you type shit.
What did...
Did you get to talk to Gucci while he was in jail?
When the record started hitting?
Nah.
You know what I mean?
Gucci's done.
It's in the past.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a new era.
Hell yeah.
Probably catching when the kids get old.
No, but I meant like back then.
Like when that record started to hit.
And he was in jail.
Did he, like, you talk to him?
Like, hey, this record.
Yeah, we was kind of beefing then, too.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
At that point.
Okay.
What did you learn in the rap industry that made you stronger, a better person, you would say?
You know, I learned millions of things.
I just learned, like, the lifestyle I was looking towards as a kid was bullshit.
For me.
Not the lifestyle in general.
Why I say it was bullshit because the idea was smaller than a rock.
I said, you can't grow unless you do business, A, as a man.
So every man that sits on a podcast, a woman that talks about women or what the fuck women don't got or don't do, nigga, you can't talk unless you got a business.
Nigga, period.
Because guess what?
You wouldn't give a fuck what nobody said because you're a man.
See, that's the difference.
People got the whole man theology shit fucked up.
Because real man is built like rocks.
No matter what words, no matter what anything you say, it cannot fuck with me because I'm the strongest on earth.
I'm a man.
There's nothing stronger than that.
So if you think that way, why would you even let shit...
That's how I thought in rap.
So that was rap for me.
In rap, it just showed like, nigga, this is bullshit.
Like, I grew up around real...
I just hate saying shit like this, like street motherfuckers.
I'm talking about, but I'm watching niggas do TV shows off that shit right now, off the people I grew up around as a kid.
And to get in rap and see everybody coming together, smoking weed, talking behind each other's back, trying to get the same girl and this.
And I was young seeing this, so it's different.
I watched friends cross each other, rap friends for a girl.
Like, I just seen all kind of sucker shit.
Shady stuff.
So when I say I'm a rapper, I say I'm coming in with nothing but my niggas.
That's why I was so deep.
Because I didn't want a rapper to be able to come over here and feel comfortable.
I wanted him to be uncomfortable.
I just wanted him to be like, what's up, Flop?
Hey, alright, bro.
You know what I mean?
If you want to be friends with me, you got to meet all my friends.
Right.
So that's why I always had a lot of people.
You know, I've heard that many times with other people as well.
The industry is pretty fake.
And unless you're a real person, you won't really see what's really happening behind the scenes.
Yeah, but then again, I'm going to contradict myself, right?
Because that's the way I came up in rap.
See, you look at it from another point of view.
Nigga, I just was paying attention to all the fake shit.
It was a lot of good shit going on.
So me watching the artist's careers right now that's blowing up, the moves they making and letting me know, like, yo, Walker, you was feeding in the dumb shit.
That was all the devil distractions.
That shit was whack.
I shouldn't even give a fuck about it, and I didn't give a fuck.
That's why I jumped past all the fights and shit.
I'm sorry.
Now I got way more better, like, you know what I'm saying?
But back then, I couldn't take it.
You could be like, yo, bitch, boom!
That's just how life was back then.
So, rap happened.
You learned a lot from rap.
And then, drastically, it had to change where you went to EDM. This is what rap told me.
Yeah.
Rap, let me bring that back.
Let me really answer that.
Stop dicking around.
Okay, Google.
Rap gave me the experience I don't think nothing in my life would have ever gave me without it.
Rap showed me the art of thieves, the art of love, the art of trust, the art of hard work, the art of discernment, all that shit.
That's what rap showed me.
And man, I've been cheating my whole...
It was so crazy, my nigga.
I saw me swear this shit.
The most solid person in my whole career was my mother.
And it's crazy that I'm saying this, right?
And it's cliche as fuck.
But everybody stole from me, bro.
Like, everybody.
And I was such a real nigga that I was afraid to say people were stealing because it made me be weak.
So while people glorify me at the same token, I'm learning.
So this is why people be like, yo, this nigga walking so smart.
Shit, you might be right, but nigga, I was being smart to save my own life.
To keep the show on the road.
So while people got down celebrating the show, I'm skinning down to keep the show going.
So a lot of niggas had to get booked for shows.
I had to pay to book myself sometimes.
Nigga, I was banded.
I give the credit to me and my team, not just me.
Like, literally.
So it's a big difference.
Like, I don't be getting mad when niggas be like, oh, walking this and this.
I'm like, bro, y'all niggas don't got no idea what this shit took.
And I'm not even going to complain, but my whole career until recently as a man, because I had full control of my life, 100% control, that I ain't got to fight no more.
Like, bro, that shit crazy, bro, to go to sleep with 10, 15, 20 million dollars and still scared to be broke.
Wow.
How the fuck do you do that?
How do you go to sleep with two, three million dollars in your pocket and feel broke?
Like, bro, just right now as 36-year-old man, bro, 37-year-old man, bro, could go to sleep at night and be at peace without having to hold a girl, without having to watch a movie, without having to take a melatonin pill, without shit.
Like, actually, I could go.
My door's unlocked.
I don't live in a gated community, my nigga.
The mailman can knock on my front door and say, hey, walk out, can I get some waffles?
So I'm that calm.
I could go the fuck to sleep.
Like, it's just, and that's what I wanted, my nigga.
Like, when I rapped, I just wanted to learn the truth.
I got tired of everybody flexing.
Like, it ain't even work.
The flexing, the reason you ain't got a dance floor in the club.
You know what I'm saying?
That flexed shit went too far, bro.
That's why I just...
You said earlier that people were stealing from you and you had to, you know, basically pay it back on your own.
Who's...
Are we talking like record labels?
People that were close to you?
Oh, definitely.
But everybody, man.
At the end of the day, my nigga, like, what could you do?
Right?
Yeah.
Who could help me?
I never seen nobody around me successful the right way.
Mm-hmm.
I never in my life met a merger and acquisition lawyer.
I never in my life met a CPA, a business manager.
Ever in my life.
I never had those in my family.
I just didn't know.
And I learned the hard way.
Oh, you found out later that they were stealing?
Nah, I learned during because I was hands-on in the very beginning of my career.
Like, credit to my mother, but my mother, you gotta think, I'm her son.
So she not finna do all that extra shit she did with Gooch and all on for me.
Hey, nigga, you my son, you supposed to know this.
That's her vibe with me.
So I'm like, what the fuck?
So, that shit was crazy.
A lot of trials and tribulations.
So what did you, did you ever, you said you didn't say anything about it.
Did you end up getting rid of those people that were stealing from you?
Of course.
Okay, you just did it silently.
Yeah, most of them got kids, so crushing their practice, they take away from their kids.
So I just pray to God that they learn something, man.
God just take away that gift and give them another one because they miss using that shit.
Just being 100, bro, I've always just been a real nigga, bro.
So for me, I don't give a fuck.
I'm not flawed.
I'm not none of that shit.
So I'm not going to think about anybody saying it.
So for them people, one thing I'm good at, though, One thing I'm great at, fuck good at, I'm so good at people goddamn thinking I didn't see or don't know.
Right?
So they don't know that you know?
Nah.
But the way they stole from me was my college courses.
Because I figured out what the fuck they did, and I figured out what I did.
So now...
Your college courses?
Oh, God.
It was like college courses for me.
Watching how people stole from me.
Learning, excuse me.
Yeah.
I love Ebonics, by the way.
High-class Ebonics is what I talk, because that's our language.
That's something nobody can take from us.
So I love shit like that.
So when you hear these words, you better kick in third gear or some shit.
But when people stole from me, I got to see their habits and how they did it, how they pinched, and how they got...
How was they able to do that legally and illegally?
How can they be in trouble?
And with me learning all that, I was kind of like, Sorry for them.
Because I'm like, yo, they dumb as fuck.
Like, they buy some money that's actually bringing in over a quarter million dollars a weekend, and you stealing from them?
Yeah.
I would be like, yo, let me invest three million in that for you.
Like, I could build a portfolio just from knowing you.
I could build me a million dollar portfolio just from you putting two, three credit cards on mine.
So that's how I know I wasn't with the right People.
So that's why I ain't take shit to heart.
And then I start calling people thieves, this, that, and the third.
I start looking at myself like, damn, what the fuck they seeing me that's stealing from me?
I got to tighten up.
So when I start tightening myself, I start seeing them come a million miles coming.
In every form of my life, from girls to business, to family, to everybody.
And I'm telling you, bro, I'm just like a master yogi.
Like a ghetto little master yogi.
Excuse me, a yogi.
I'm not a master yet.
It just made me just be cool.
That's interesting, because other people, they would probably corner them and be like, hey, what the fuck?
Or maybe even attack them or whatever.
So you just saw it, and you're just like, you know what?
Yeah, but that's not a godly thing to do.
I'm a street nigga.
I already know that's some street shit.
I look that shit like that as street shit.
So in my brain, I program like that street shit, Waki, you can't do that.
Like, they expect you to be gangster for them to call the cops and you act irate.
When did you make that transition?
I've been like this, my boy.
I've been like this, my boy.
I'm just grown with experience and I can do grown man moves.
And now I'm out of talk because I experienced this.
I promise, bro, just go back in all these little cameras and shit.
Bro, I've been talking like this, bro, where you see all, like, the soft music behind people conversations.
I was doing that in 2013 on Instagram.
I'm serious, bro.
So I'm not trying to take credit for this shit, but this shit I wanted to be.
So I was fighting to become that.
I felt stuck, bro.
It's different.
A lot of people want to be famous.
I felt stuck in fame.
But what I'm asking is, like, at what point did you say, you know what?
There's no point.
So you never, ever resorted to, I guess, violence or attack or confronting somebody for stealing from you?
If I did, we'll never know.
Just to answer everybody's questions.
So how should someone pick their friends, you would say, to be successful?
Because obviously you've seen through the bad, the good, the ugly, but how should someone pick friends to be in their circle, you would say?
That's a scary question.
To go off this blueprint, I just say, man, your friends are going to be who you are on the inside of you anyway.
So if you're a nasty, grimy, dirty person on the inside, you're going to always get nasty, dirty, grimy-ass people on the outside, especially from my perspective in life.
So I'm going to be real, my boy.
I never just fought with people like that.
Like, I know who grind me and shit, right?
I can't hang with no nigga that kill people every day.
Right.
Or goddamn, just steal and rob all day.
I can't fuck with you, bro.
You don't play basketball?
You don't play video games?
Like, you don't like cartoons?
Like, what the fuck?
You're just a monster.
Like, I wasn't a monster.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I always, like, I don't know if I'm a gangster nerd, bro.
I just like nerd shit, too.
Enemy?
Bro, I just like nerd shit.
I don't want credit for none of it, bro.
I don't want to be on a game and in that play.
I like that shit actually make me feel good, bro.
Like, it's crazy.
I love that shit.
Okay.
So you would say work on yourself first.
That's when you're a better person.
Oh, you have to.
Y'all folks better work on y'allself.
Y'all niggas better stop blaming people.
You better look in the mirror, my boy.
That's my for real, for real life.
That's how you're going to get to where you got to get.
I swear to God, all that.
Hey, man, think good.
Strategize.
All that bullshit, man.
You better look at yourself and say, hey, I'm wrong.
I fucked up.
You better do it quick, too.
Accountability.
You don't want to be no old-ass man and then taking accountability, man.
That shit could probably be devastating.
Being old as fuck and then forgiving yourself.
Oh, no.
Do it right now.
Right now.
That's good.
So, at what point did you say, you know what, man?
I'm going to turn into crazy jewelry, the flex in the cars.
My friends kept dying.
My friends died and damn near all my chains.
Never was robbed from either.
So, it's just like...
I don't know, man.
I was just...
I just, I wanted to just start over.
I mean, I got all that shit to flex on, niggas, to show them that we get money.
So your friends were attacked for wearing your jewelry?
I don't know.
That was just their lifestyle.
I just, that shit just fuck with me, my boy.
I've been shot for a chain.
I'm like, man, this shit's crazy.
Who are you, Walker?
I feel like I was losing myself.
I was hiding in items.
I feel like items made me become Popular.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to be popular for me.
Not for what I wear.
Not for what I drive.
That's why I stopped giving a fuck about clothes.
That's why I stopped giving a fuck about getting shapeboards.
I stopped giving a fuck.
I'm like, if I'm Waka Flocka, right?
Let me see if I'm Waka Flocka without all this shit.
Without an album.
Without a single.
When did you make this transition?
2012.
2012 is when you said...
That's why I was like, fuck it.
I was like, if I could go another 10 years, I'll start back rapping.
Literally.
I said, if I could do this in 10 years, I wanted to learn business, bro.
I just had to learn that shit before I'm 40.
I'm like, bro, I'm going to work hard and fuck until I'm old and just ball.
It's a Rolls Royce look better than a 52-year-old man than a 25-year-old man.
Who look better than a 52-year-old player?
He ain't a Rolls Royce, man.
That shit just look way better.
I just was that kind of person.
Ocho Cinco did an interview recently.
You brought up, for example, saving most of his money and not buying designer, buying a chain and stuff like that because his brand name is Ocho Cinco.
So if you meet him, he's the brand, not what he wears.
That's a very good point that you brought up.
He extreme.
You know what I'm saying?
He like a vegan that got down.
Throw paint on the mink coat.
That shit crazy.
I'm not that extreme.
I'm going to put that shit on.
I don't know the name of nothing, but if I like it, I'm going to get it.
I'm not that weird-ass, not calling bro weird.
I'm not that weird-ass natural guy.
Oh, brother.
All that's when I'm pattering ass clothes.
I'm still going to put that shit on and do what I want, but you got to elevate.
Sometimes you got to stop to evolve to see how far you came.
It was one of those moments, brother.
So to answer your shit, it was just one of those moments like I had to take that motherfucking jewelry off.
I had to, like, I just had to.
What'd you do with all of it?
Do you sell it back?
Do you still have it?
Do you give it away?
It's in a safe.
It's in a safe?
Okay, so you still have it, you just don't wear it no more?
I'm never wearing it in my life of a living.
Is it like a trophy now?
So if I'm just going to redo it, I'll live my life and put that shit on.
Wow.
I'm good.
Then I know what energy holds.
Like gold and copper hold the most energy out of all metals.
Imagine how much fucking negative energy them jerry got on.
I was on all kinds of pills and lean and shit, sweating in that jerry.
I'm good.
I don't need that shit.
Melt that shit.
When did you give up the lean and all the other stuff?
Uh, I probably said when I was like 26, 27.
It is like, Waka, you might as well say you're like a type 2 or type 1 diabetic.
Oh, wow.
It's like, so we about to start giving you a coolant shots and blood thinning pills.
Hell no.
So I was taking it.
They was gearing me up for it.
I'm like, damn, bro, I don't need to get hard.
I'm over it.
This shit crazy.
And I ain't saying nothing to anybody, but it was fucking with me, bro.
Yeah.
When they say shit like that, bro, I can just think about my daddy, bro.
I see my daddy, like, damn near this death bed.
Like, he's skinny, like, in the bed.
So I keep, kept thinking about shit like that.
And it just, it started triggering me going to hell.
And I just went right into it.
Like, next thing you know, I ain't have to take the pills no more.
What are some steps you took to improve your health?
Well, I just let go of the sugar.
I cold turkey candy.
Okay.
I probably eat candy six, five times a year for that.
Okay.
I just went on hell and natural, so I put more nutritious stuff in my body.
Okay.
It wasn't like no perfect regimen.
That's when Sebi was out and shit like that.
I just was following it.
And now I started finding out there's no such thing as a disease.
Your body had a disease state.
I started finding out it's a fungus first.
What do a fungus need first?
I just stopped doing that and just like...
I just learned this shit.
The information is right there.
And there's nobody that can heal you.
There's no secret pill, no secret tonics.
It's you taking the tonic.
It's you taking the pills.
It's you believing in it.
Shout out to Yaki Awakening.
He's the littest right now on Holistic Medicine.
Yaki, little brother, is the fucking goat.
You start going to the gym too?
I barely go to the gym.
Barely?
Okay.
I just run.
I don't want to be all...
I'm big as fuck, bro.
So if I come out of this bitch like...
I ain't gonna wipe my ass, bro.
This shit would be crazy.
Yeah, walk us super tall, man.
So you run, but you eat fairly healthy now, drink a lot of water?
I ran.
I don't run today.
You don't run no more?
I just had an outfit, right?
If I put the pants on, I'm like, God damn, big boy.
If I can't eat, if I can't eat, come on.
Nigga start feeling big, but I like it though, man.
I'm about to get it in.
I'm about to do a 90 to a 120 fit day.
I want to be on front of Men's Health Magazine.
That's a grown man goal I have.
I want to be in front of Men's Health Magazine.
Trim, slim.
I'm trying to have a little boxer line.
Get my groan on, my boy.
How'd you get over...
Because I'm sure there's a lot of people watching right now.
We got almost 8,000 people in here.
How'd you get over the drug use?
The drug use?
Yeah.
I love my life.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's no secret.
People want to get these magical...
I literally love my life, bro.
I love God.
There's nothing...
I don't know, dawg.
I just...
I don't know.
I just ain't no weak-ass nigga.
I can't...
There's no way in the fuck a plant can make me be, like, consumed to dying or dispose my body and shit, like...
I don't know, bro.
That shit's just corny to me.
It's like blaming people all day.
Like, I don't know, dawg.
I just can't.
I don't know, my boy.
I really just can't be that guy.
I just, hell nah.
A drink?
And then lean?
That shit died.
Cavity?
My shit, fuck.
What the hell?
That shit heroin.
Like, I'm a heroin addict, bro.
Like, what the fuck?
I'm a fresh-ass junkie.
In real life, I've seen myself selling whatever I had to sell to turn around and go spend money with another nigga to buy drugs.
We all drug addicts.
I'm just the best looking drug addict.
Like, bro, hell, I had to get rid of that.
Then I had Charlie.
Charlie was a big, my daughter was like a huge, huge factor inside of me, changing health, life, my daughter.
She the first person that made me feel like Literally famous.
She's the first person that literally made me feel like a superhero.
She's the first person that made me feel literally like a somebody.
Like, yo, I need you to live so I can live kind of shit.
Like, literally, she's the first human on Earth to make me feel like it.
So that right there, that was like the fucking nail in the whole coffin.
That was a transition point when you had your daughter.
So, giving up the lien, giving up the jewelry, the drugs.
And even giving it up, just...
Not even give it up.
Just evolve, King.
Like, you ain't got to goddamn change nothing.
Evolve.
Like, it happened.
You can't change something that happened.
Like, people get the words misconstrued, right?
They start fucking up the definition.
You can never change nothing that already happened.
You can evolve from it.
And I just wanted to evolve.
So, what I started doing was I started learning the habits.
So, I started asking my wife at the time.
Actually, she's like, Waka, yeah, you were saying this, this, you did this.
I'm like, what the?
Fuck, you stay with me?
I was just like deep shit.
So I just start seeing my...
You know what I'm saying?
You made a change.
Yeah, I should tell people, hey, yeah, we're going to do that.
Yeah, we're going to do that.
And I want to do it, but I don't remember it.
I was hot.
Oh, I wake up.
I got $50,000, $20,000.
Whatever in my pocket, I wake up, I got $200.
I'm like, boy, that shit was lit.
Like, that's bad, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't even know where the money went.
Not really.
I just don't remember.
Like, it's crazy.
So you made a change for the better.
I evolved.
I did it for my daughters, man.
I did it for the people watching me.
Like, I never did it for the industry.
I never had a cosign in my life but my mother.
I just, it's fans, my boy.
Like, I'm only here because of fans.
I don't pay for nothing in marketing.
People do it.
Like, people got me right here.
So I can't do the butt fuck with people.
Even when people are like, oh, Walker, girl.
Walker, don't say this.
You should never do this.
I'm like, I fuck with the people, though.
Y'all niggas never put me here.
Don't tell me what the fuck to say.
You just own a platform we're talking on.
If we, people like me, stop talking, you have no money.
Shut the fuck up.
Let me talk.
Cut everybody else off, not me.
So that's when I start learning.
People, fuck with you, bro.
You have to tap into people and don't let 10 people, 5 people, or 30 people make you say, fuck the people that made you who you was.
And a lot of people in these positions, we can't forget that part.
That's facts, though.
Yeah, I get some of these chats.
And then, guys, come on over to YouTube.
We're going to kill the Twitter, Twitch, and Facebook stream, so come on over to YouTube right now so y'all can continue getting the sauce.
Chris, can we kill him?
Yeah, we can.
Yeah, guys, come on over to YouTube or Rumble, either or.
We're going to be live on Rumble and on YouTube, so come on over right now.
Okay, so we got here, the Grim Reaper.
Remember, don't get embarrassed like Tom.
Don't get stood up like Dick and don't waste your life like Harry.
Free to taste.
Absolutely.
Shout out to you, man.
That's from the book.
Go get it, guys.
Michael Meastroke, $1 super secret.
Thank you.
Michaka goes, I go hard in the motherfucking paint.
Brick squad.
Omar Gray goes, peace, bros.
Brick squad, bow, bow.
Okay.
And then we got Nathan goes, my buddy self-deleted over three or four and I wish we had this content.
He had put me on to No Hands by Waka when we were younger.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hey, that record went crazy, man.
Tell us about that.
What was it like filming that and that record in general?
That record really created our lifestyle and our era.
Yeah.
Man, that shit was fun, bro.
That whole video, it was a big-ass party.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On the top floor.
Yeah, in Atlanta.
Yeah, that shit was lit.
It was just a party.
Yeah.
To me, that'd be the best video shoots.
Is that when you...
Because that song had a lot of mainstream success.
I mean, to this day, it still gets played in the club a lot.
And the club still plays today.
It still plays to this day.
Booby Trap.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Live.
What was it like, I guess, on the tail of that, like, touring after and everything else?
Would you say that's when you, like, really broke into mainstream?
I was in there, bro.
Yo, I'm telling y'all, bro.
This shit sounds crazy, bro.
My first CD dropped four months later.
I was on the road four or five days out the week till today.
Wow.
Like, I don't know.
It took me four months to get out.
Probably before that.
Like, even in the first month my tape came out, I was doing features and shit and walked in.
So I never, like...
Bro, No Hands, just like, just shut them up.
Wale, Roscoe?
Yeah.
That's it, right?
That's it.
Yeah.
I mean, to this day, they still play that record, man.
I just felt like, it was just a good combination.
Shout out to Greg Street.
If it wasn't for Greg Street, I don't even think No Hands would be a hit.
Really?
It wasn't for DJ Greg Street for just grabbing the record and dropping it without us.
He's like, this shit is a fucking hit.
I'm taking it.
Fuck that.
And left the studio.
That's when Gucci just came home.
He's like, I'm out.
This is the hit.
Fuck everything.
And left.
Boom.
And then I went on the road.
I guess he was talking to DJ Love De Niro from Queens.
And Love was like, I'm playing this in your set tonight.
I said, Love, I swear to my mother, my nigga.
You know that word to mother shit pop out.
Like, yo, look, bro, if you play that shit, my nigga, yo, we might fight.
That fucking, excuse my language, that fucking gas song, bro.
Don't play that shit.
Nigga, I want some gangster shit, bro.
What the fuck I look like singing on stage, bro?
So he played the shit.
I threw the fucking water bottle at him.
As I turned back around, the whole crowd going crazy.
But we played that shit three times, back to back.
I said, oh, this shit a hit.
Because I never had a girl record.
I always had gangsta shit.
And all my fans was girls at the time.
Just every show would be always girls.
So once I played No Hands, I'm like, oh, this shit lit.
I didn't fucking learn how to do this.
But I couldn't rap about girls because I never went on a date.
I never, like, had a girlfriend.
So I never knew but hang with freaks at the time.
Like, I never, I don't know, I just wasn't, I had no game.
So I never knew what to rap, but shake that head, bitch on track.
You don't know, like, you don't got no jazz.
Right.
Was it, at that point when that record hit, did you know, like, yeah, I fucking made it?
Uh, bruh, with no hand, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know, bruh, I might try and care, bruh, I was already loaded, bruh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you already had money at that point.
Like, fuck the money, like, I was, bruh, I was, like, fucking ten, uh, seven mixtapes in.
Yeah.
My dick is around be going crazy by then.
The album just made me stand up next to A-list artists.
At the time, they was all banding and shit like, oh, that music is whack.
That sound is whack.
Who want 808s and kicks and hi-hats talking about gang violence and this, that, and the third.
I'm like, yo, nobody ever did shit like this.
I'm like, yo, calm the fuck down.
I was just fighting for it.
You know, that next generation came because they were listening to that and killed it.
And that's when, like, the next generation was like Chief Keef's.
Yeah.
So they listened to my shit.
So it was basically like, shit, all right, watch the next generation.
I knew they were going to have problems with them.
I only rapped for the younger generation in mine.
I wasn't rapping on the older generation.
I'm like, y'all niggas grew up off boom back.
I can't compete with that.
I can't even rap.
Fuck that.
Hell no.
Fair enough.
Wonder Wonders goes Waka Flaka say Brick Squad.
Alright, Dr.
B84. Brick Squad!
Dr.
B84, we got you.
Michael Meastro, thank you.
Shout out to Waka Shish.
Okay, Bradley goes, we've always said that Flacavelli is freaking gospel and karma and lurking.
Still my favorite Waka Flaka songs ever.
Okay.
Frozen Gilly goes, thoughts on using life insurance for being your own bank and getting an IUL, Index Universal Life Policy?
That's a good strategy for wealth creation as well.
Well, depending on what you do in your life that way, nigga, you're smart.
Exactly.
He knows the game.
You read it.
I like that.
What do we got here?
He goes, Flock, are you still going to try and be president?
I think the country needs you, bro.
It's time for WACA 24.
Make America lit again.
Okay.
Ayo Zay goes, Clay Coe in the house.
I reversed the slave route.
Went from up north to down south.
All right, cool.
Michael Meestroke, number one podcast in the universe.
Absolutely.
Facts.
Dudley De Niro goes, salute to Fresh and Fit Gang.
Salute to LeBron, Flocka, James.
Keep leading from the front, fellas.
All right, cool.
Jigsaw goes, shout out to Damian Cabal.
I think this is...
Oh, Bamiyan Kebab, you're right.
Squad, Bamiyan's is an Afghan-based restaurant.
It's a family-owned restaurant.
I'm part of that family as well.
Wow.
It's one of the top two, if not the number one restaurant in Canada.
It got over 15 locations, and we come into America.
Shout out to Bamiyan's.
My whole Afghan family.
Bamiyan's.
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Wow.
Okay.
There you go.
Good food.
Manja Singtor goes best rap line of all time.
Fuck 5-0.
I make my own rules.
Shit my Dragon Balls.
Bitch, call me Goku.
Suck my Dragon Balls.
Oh, suck my Dragon Balls.
Bitch, call me Goku.
Also Naruto or DBZ. This liquor got the best of that.
We own way different.
In the house.
In the house.
Ness, go and see Waka at Dreamville Fest in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Let's go.
Cool.
NL Forever Guild.
Waka, when you made Love Them Good Gun Sounds, I changed my life and started going to church.
I knew the streets wasn't it for me.
Okay.
IRS. Waka Flock.
I love the music.
Harden to paint.
And no hands remain on my gym playlist.
But respectfully, I'm going to need that back tax, my guy.
Yo, shout out to the IRS, bro.
I just worked out a payment plan.
That shit real.
Yo, they don't play, bro.
IRS. I can't wait to pay them.
Why wouldn't you want to not pay them?
True.
They got us lit.
It's true.
Don, five bucks.
Waka is the only celebrity I know that walks to Chicago with no problems.
Okay.
Okay.
I love Chicago.
I'm sorry to say this, but Chicago, to me, I know it's hardcore, but bro, that shit home, bro.
I feel, bro, I feel, I really feel like that shit Clayton County.
The love is incredible.
Bro, Chicago, bro, it's leaving my top three cities in America to party in.
You know, I've heard that from- If not top two.
Yo, Chicago, all right, that's a whole lot.
That's my shit.
Chicago and what are the other two?
Atlanta?
You gotta say Miami.
No, Arizona in general.
I'd say for me right now, I like Texas.
Atlanta don't count.
That's home.
That's a guarantee.
I say Texas, Arizona, and Chicago.
Okay.
Any cities in Texas?
Because you got Dallas, you got Houston.
No, Texas.
Anywhere in Texas.
Oh, yeah.
You would think I'm from that motherfucker.
Chris, 20 bucks.
Used to live down the street from Waka Flocka in Georgia.
He's a good man.
Happy you found your way to Fresher Fit.
There you go.
My dog.
Michaca.
And then, you know, from this point forward, guys, we've got almost 8,000 of y'all in here.
20 and up.
IRS, you better be using my tax money for good uses and not super chat.
And that's from Michaca.
Okay.
B Dirty Dollars says, Waka, what the fuck going on with L Lass?
L-A-4.
Oh, L-A-4-S-S. Bros, a backstabber and a lame.
I'm happy you separated from him.
Continue to shine and get in the paper.
Stay up, Waka.
Who's that?
It's the hardest I had signed out of St.
Louis.
We just Fuck, man.
That old nigga was nice.
He's just the streets.
Nah.
Couldn't leave?
Man, I ain't...
Fuck it.
I just chalked up as a loss.
Damn.
Fair enough.
Jay, five bucks.
Waka, do you remember turning up with the sign language lady a couple years ago at your show?
That video still goes foul to this day.
You a real one.
Yo, shout out to Ms.
Kat, and we definitely have a movie coming out.
It'll be on Sundance.
We bring it to the film festival for the deaf community.
Her name is Kat, and I love the deaf community.
Shout out to all of us.
Alright, fair enough.
Fishbowl Family, $20.
Got your book on Amazon.
Just finished reading.
Been great watching you influence the world for the greater good.
Keep going hard in the motherfucking paint.
Keep building up the men.
Stay focused, Kings.
Alright.
And then Corey says, Yo, Waka, long hair, she don't care.
When she walks, she gets stares.
Okay?
Corey, man of God.
Hey, Fresh, go ahead and spit some bars from your viral hit, High Value Man.
Bow, bow, bow.
What's good, Waka?
Alright, man.
I made a song, right, bro?
But they don't like it.
How about the action?
Do you got a record?
I do, but you want to hear it?
After the show.
Don't laugh at me, though.
I don't want to hear that shit, bro.
Bro, that's the next two of us.
Okay.
G. Sabo, Sauce Guy.
I miss the Waka Flocka and Lex Luger era.
Shout out to y'all, though.
Lex Luger old videos put me on to the Florida Studio Legend Trapaholics.
Cool.
Demon Time Mo.
Fruity Loop Studio.
Keep my bleep hard and keep me smoking.
You'll get bills free.
Shardinos joking.
That bar inspired me to turn into my Demon Time with the ladies.
All right.
Goat King.
I always donate five bucks, but today I'm donating ten for bringing a real G on the show.
Waka been always trying to put people on game.
W host, guest, and chat.
We got y'all, man.
Leon, fuck this industry.
Big dog classics.
Shout out to Waka.
All right.
And then Kieran, yo, Waka, let me get a chain if you ain't gonna wear it.
You got it.
Shout out to Waka, Deb, and Bimmy.
All legends.
Big W. Cool.
And then...
Are we good here, Chris?
Or these came in from before?
Before.
Okay.
Flaccavelli is a vinyl-worthy album.
Fair.
And then Ayose, go stop playing Flacca.
He'd been hot before.
No hands.
He was doing Dubstep by 2010.
Yo, tell us about Slim Duncan.
Oh, God, man.
I miss that.
And then...
Miss you, don't.
Squat.
Flacca, have you ever since Shorty Bust Shorty?
Short Bust Shorty?
Have you ever?
Short Bust Shorty.
I love Short Bust Shorty.
It was a cartoon from...
Oh, it was a cartoon?
Okay.
What made you get into the EDM? Because you did transition to EDM for a little bit.
Oh, my God.
I like the new fans, man.
I say that.
You know, like, on my first record, it was like an EDM kind of record on Flock of Ellie all through my career.
I think it was time for me to evolve in my career at the time, but the label didn't want me to.
They wanted me to stay with this hardcore gangster shit, but I'm like, my nigga, I did 30 CDs.
Like, I'm sorry I only like two or one of them.
And the label was being sneaky.
They was letting me drop 30 fucking tapes because it was in my deal at the time.
Really, they should have kept dropping it.
So I felt like I was at a point in my career was about my friends, fans, and family.
So I was transitioning into international music.
Yeah.
So to me, I want to move on electronic stand bass because I actually really learned it from go-go music in D.C. And people in Chicago was playing a little dubstep.
Yeah.
That's like dubstep originally from.
EDM is from Chicago, by the way.
But when you start learning, I'm like, God damn, this is the grown folk music.
Because, you know, I had the ratchet-ass music, like the killer music.
My shit couldn't go in Greenhouse back then and Story and South Beach.
So I'm like, fuck, if I could get on that international level.
Man, I was doing shows.
I used to see Lil Jon and Ying Yang Twins.
Yeah, go to Ultra and shit.
I'm about to do that.
So I brought that shit to our generation.
I'm like, let me do that.
Okay.
I feel like you made it cool to go to that stuff from guys in the rap industry.
Yeah, they thought it was corny.
Exactly.
They couldn't say nothing to me, though.
How the fuck are you going to say?
I'm corny.
You gangsta.
You can't say that.
It's fun, though.
It's fun.
Are you doing Ultra?
This year?
Yeah, it's like next week.
Yeah.
I don't deserve...
I don't deserve to do like Ultra and Coach Elliott.
I'm gonna put out some new shit.
I did not deserve that.
I think it's for these young guys.
But I honestly think that y'all artists should take it more serious.
I think in these festivals, artists should never bring their friends.
I think, in my opinion, this is game for y'all.
Don't never...
Y'all niggas that's already on.
Game to stay on.
Y'all should not bring no friends.
Y'all should invest a lot of money into your stage set.
And why do I say this?
Because this is the time that y'all get more eyes probably than y'all ever had in y'all career to stage new music.
Or if you are artists that never toured, this is your opportunity right here to show touring companies or booking agents that you're tour worthy, meaning that you could put on a fucking set.
Don't smoke before the set.
Don't drink before the set.
Don't pop nothing before the set because your vocal tone is live and people hear you.
Yeah.
So you want motherfuckers to get the real you.
And I just think artists should just tie deep into that.
I did that.
That shit helped me out my whole career.
Like, it took me to levels that, like, a TV can never fail.
And it's funny.
Those clips of you going to those festivals, right, go viral.
And it's like, wait, walk us at these festivals?
That's crazy.
So let's say, for example, your music died on a little bit.
Those clips make it go viral again.
So you're right.
I was doing like Warped Tour.
Like a lot of rappers wouldn't even make it in Warped Tour.
Damn.
Hell no, I doubt it.
That's like Machine Gun Kelly got his shit from.
Legend.
That's fire.
So I just learned something there.
I didn't know that, that as an artist, you're responsible for the set on that show.
Nah, you're not.
With getting your own dancers or getting the background.
Of course you are.
You want to add that to your set.
They call you like, hey, what's your stage set?
Okay.
So you got to pay for it, not them.
Nah, I guess they whatever.
However you work your shit out.
Every artist is different, right?
But I feel like, nigga, why not spend your money?
This is like a new record you're about to drop.
Nigga, see if you can drop firecrackers on this motherfucker or something.
Make that shit big.
And plus you giving back to your fans.
I think that shit should be a fucking money grab.
It's like a fan appreciation.
Thank y'all, bro.
Let's celebrate with this shit.
I'm telling you, people love you for shit like this.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
You know who does very well at sets?
Swayley and Jimmy.
Oh yeah, definitely.
And then last one's here, right?
Yeah, Guillermo goes, Waka, have you ever read that one?
Juan De Niro, 20.
Appreciate that.
And then I Am, Super Sticker, 20.
Appreciate that.
So you talk a lot now about putting the jewelry home, the fancy cars, everything else like that.
I'm putting jewelry on.
I got jewelry.
Yeah.
I just don't be wearing that shit on him.
I'm just acting my age, bro.
Yeah.
That's it.
This nigga's so woke in transition.
Nigga, I'm acting my age, bro.
Like, they can see they act their age.
So you're more into investing and starting business now?
But I'm into rap, too, bro.
I'm into going to parties.
I just party three, four nights straight.
You see what I'm saying, bro?
I go do shows, do three shows a day.
Like, I'm still that person.
I'm just, that's not a focus.
My focus is, like, business.
Like, because that's what I should be focusing on.
Can you tell us about that a little bit?
Yeah, just for me and who I am in life, right?
I could just do anything I want to do.
If I want to start a mic company, I know how to do it.
If I want to start a desk company, if I want to do real estate, I know how to do it.
If I want to start milk, I know how to do it.
I go buy a farm, farm-raised, marketed, branded, blah, blah, blah.
Next thing you know, I'm getting distribution and everybody in the world is drinking my milk now.
So it's just like I know how to be a business guy.
If you don't mind sharing, what are you investing in right now?
Real estate.
What I'm banking on is something.
I'm not investing on nothing.
I'm banking on something.
I just say get with the block and hollow chain.
Find out what hollow chain is.
Find out what blockchain is.
That's where my investment is.
Crypto.
Are you in real estate too?
Yeah, but from a different level.
From a whole different perspective.
Commercial?
Residential?
I'm gonna go past that level.
Oh wow.
Keeping it private.
That's fine.
Only because I'm not in nobody's lane.
It's like me going to a neighborhood creating a pizzeria instead of partnering with the mom and pop pizzeria to help that franchise.
That's the mindset I'm at today.
So you partner with other people you don't want to...
You're kind of like an angel investor.
Yeah.
Okay.
Where you put money behind things, but you don't necessarily disclose.
Yeah.
All right.
Fair enough.
Anything else, Chris?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then Lord Enzo goes here.
Sheen, boogie for president.
Fair enough.
And then last thing for me, brother.
What is up for Waka Waka next?
What's the next evolution you would say for you?
And we'll close out there.
Kids.
And me selling this company for multi-millions.
Shout out to a new company I just joined too.
I'm part of this company.
It's called Slide.
It's like when social media and party meets one.
One thing I always had a hard time with is Slide is spelled S-L-Y-P-E. Oh, excuse me.
S-L-Y-D-E. Excuse me.
Think about all this shit.
And...
Why I love slide?
Because it's just like when I hit the cities, I want to know what's popping.
So to me, that shit about to be a bubble.
It just helped my life out way better.
So slide is dope.
Slide is from a young little brother from Russia.
He's just smart as fuck.
When he was younger, I just believed it.
I'm like, bro, you'll be smart as fuck.
I'm just going to fuck with you.
Don't worry.
I don't want nothing.
I do so with hundreds of kids, by the way.
And they always pop.
So I just be like, yo, your idea is beautiful, bro.
And it's lit as fuck.
And then for once, if I'll call you, I'm like, bro, where you at?
He'll be like, I'm in a club with 24.
I'm like, fuck it, let me pull it up.
I'm like, fuck it, let me pull it up.
Then I look at the thermometer and 2,000, 3,000 people in there like, yo, this shit lit.
I call you, be like, yo, this shit busting.
I look in the thermometer and be like, There's a lot of girls in there.
Or people in my contacts, I can see where they partying at.
You know what's funny?
You text your friend like, yo, bro, where you at?
Oh, I'm at Club Live.
That shit lit.
Yeah, bro, it lit.
But on Slide, though, Slide will show you the whole shit.
And inside of Slide, I can text people.
So people in the club, I can text you FaceTime, you shit like that.
So it's our own world.
It's a party world.
That's dope.
I love it.
That's dope.
And then, guys, you can find Walker on his YouTube as well.
Yeah, all his links are below.
Yo, sorry, y'all.
I'm about to refresh my YouTube in 30 days.
Everything about all my profiles, excuse me, 45 days.
Everything about all my profiles is going to be changed, updated.
I'm about to start just...
I'm about to get on YouTube, bro.
I might as well just start, like, fucking around.
There you go.
But not on no podcast shit, because I like these podcasts.
I ain't gonna ever try to get in y'all lane.
Nah, we appreciate it, bro.
We don't mind.
I guess last word for the people.
Anything last you want to say to the audience before we end this?
Words of wisdom?
Words of wisdom.
Fuck yeah.
Man, just shit.
Fuck it.
Just live life, man.
Experience, man.
All this shit is is an experience.
If you're not experiencing, you're not living.
Period.
Thanks.
Fair enough.
Alright guys, we'll catch you back here with some lovely ladies, man.
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