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Dec. 31, 2022 - Fresh & Fit
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Chick Off ZaZa Looks Crazy & Destiny Debates Myron/Sneako On Modern Dating!
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It's your podcast after our edition.
We're joined with a bunch of girls, Destiny and Sneakers.
Let's get into it!
Free the guys.
It's free to go.
What's he doing?
Nobody cares, bro.
Get out.
Get out.
It's a night.
Kind of pattern.
In the night.
No control.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
I know the night is not for 14.
I'm a fool reading something, so I'll make myself believe it.
This night I'm not for 14.
I will never tell it's mine.
I guess you can't forget it.
I will never tell it's mine.
Pushes in.
Yeah, what's up, guys?
Welcome to Fresh and Fit Podcast, man.
Real quick, for all you guys on Twitch, y'all gotta come over to YouTube right now because we got two guys on the panel that are literally banned off of Twitch.
We got Sneeko in the house.
So guys, come on over to YouTube right now.
Oh man, that's so funny, bro.
Yeah, we had to kill the Twitch stream immediately.
Okay, so real quick analysis guys, rumble.com slash freshandfitman where you guys can go ahead and get all the content that is safe for YouTube.
Rumble's better.
Yeah, Rumble is better.
Rumble.com slash Fresh to Fit.
And then also check out Sneeko on Rumble and Rumble.com slash Sneeko.
Yes, sir.
It's not the Sneeko, Sneeko.
Destin, are you on Rumble too or no?
Not yet.
He's on his way there.
Once the blue hair fades, you'll come over.
Also, guys, Fresh to Fit.locals.com, behind-the-scenes content.
Right now, for example, Fresh was recording some stuff right before the studio, making fun of Christina and Xena.
And then also, guys, check us out on Megaphone.
We got two different links for y'all.
We got one for Fresh to Fit and one for Fresh to Fit After.
So make sure to check us out there.
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So we need you guys to subscribe to the goddamn channel, Fresh and Fit Clips.
All right, if you don't got time to watch the full pod, go ahead and check us out over there.
And then also, Fresh, how about your vlog channel?
Guys, for behind the scenes, man, check out the vlog channel.
We posted a stream, sorry, a vlog with Aiden and Call it Black and Academics.
And then we have a stream tomorrow, I believe, for you guys as well.
So check it out.
Twitch is going away.
Let's go.
Bro, you're not funny, bro.
And then for me, guys, check out FEDA 1811 on there.
I break down criminal cases you guys know.
I'm probably going to cover the FTX owner getting arrested by the FBI this weekend.
And I also cover serial killer cases, terrorism, all the types of stuff that you guys like.
If you're a true crime fan, go ahead and check us out on FEDA 1811 where I cover criminal cases.
But yeah, I guess we'll go.
Chris, you had an announcement.
Go ahead.
Yes, ladies, DME and RNC Pucks on IG. Make sure that if you do come to our studio and come on to our show, we have the show that begins from 10 o'clock, more or less, to midnight at 1 o'clock, all right?
So if you come to our studio and you think that it's a one-hour show, it's not, ladies.
So not entitled.
We had a lady in the studio.
She came in recently, and she's like, oh, you guys, it's an honor to have me in the studio.
I don't know why you guys keep me waiting on the couch.
I'm like, bitch, I'm like, stupid.
I don't know why you thought the show was like an hour long.
Do your homework, do your research.
This is the only platform on YouTube that I know.
You can come onto the platform, get hella clout for being a nobody.
Literally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All of us, for free!
It's true.
You don't know who I am.
I'm like, I don't care.
That is true.
Okay, cool.
So, ladies.
Actually, no, hold on.
Before we get there, let's do the guest first.
Guest of honor.
Who are you people, by the way?
You gotta go first, Blue Pill.
No, you can go first.
I need exposure right now real bad, so go ahead.
I'm killing it on Rumble.
I don't need no exposure.
Rumble.com slash Nico.
Rumble's taking over in 2023.
I know you're tired of hearing the same bot takes on YouTube and Twitch, not being able to say the words that we really want to say, not being able to talk about the opinions that we really want to talk about.
All that is on Rumble, and we're taking over, man.
That's the random dude.
You can't put my name in the title, Russ.
You get demonetized because Big Tech is censoring all of us.
The Matrix is attacking in real time.
So come over to Rumble before they delete you and delete the rest of these people who are actually speaking something of value.
Yeah, free tape.
Don't freeze Nico.
And there we go.
Yeah, what's up?
I'm Destiny for slightly more sane political takes.
I'm on YouTube.
I talk politics philosophy.
We talk about the Matrix and how we all live in it and thrive in it and benefit from it and the ways we critique it without trying to burn the entire house down.
Red pill versus blue pill.
By the way, I don't know what is different about you, but something different about you, bro.
I don't know what it is.
I can't figure it out.
I've been working out a little.
Thank you.
That must be it, bro.
Shout out to you.
Okay, ladies, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, your body count, and we'll start right here.
So name, age, what you do for a living, dating status.
Name, age, and what?
Dating status.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
My name is Jenny.
I'm 34 years old, and I'm single.
Okay, that's cool.
Okay.
Single and fucked up.
It's for the last like three or four years.
I need a few more shots.
I need to catch up.
I didn't realize we were free gaming today.
I feel like a fucking loser.
Why?
Why'd you have to go there?
What do you do for?
What do you do for it?
OnlyFans right now.
Are you serious?
Yes.
OnlyFans?
I'm not sure, Chloe, but right now OnlyFans maybe.
Okay, cool.
And high level of education.
I'm seven credits away from my master's in professional counseling psychology at Florida International University in Miami.
What do you have your bachelor's degree in?
I'm over here.
What do you have your bachelor's degree in?
To me?
Yeah.
My master's?
No, you said you're working towards your master's, which means you have a bachelor's, correct?
Yeah.
So what's your bachelor's in?
Psychology.
Alright, cool.
And is that from FIU as well?
No, that's from University of Central Florida.
I did it online.
Okay.
Yeah, I travel.
Fair enough.
Chris, what the fuck, man?
Seriously?
She wasn't like us.
Wait, where are you from?
Who, me?
Yeah.
I was born in Hialeah and raised in Kendall.
Makes a lot of sense.
Okay, gotcha.
All right.
Shout out to Hialeah, man.
So you came from Kendall tonight?
That's where you came from, Kendall?
No, my parents moved to Palm Beach County recently.
So you live with your parents?
Yes, and I'm trying to move out.
And she put the high in Hialeah.
So I came out here, like, all by myself, but your parents must be really nice.
Your parents must be really, really nice.
I'm just trying to make money, trying to live in Miami, trying to do what I need to do.
What?
Happy New Year's, man.
Happy New Year's, bro.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Happy New Year's Day.
Okay.
Happy New Year's Day.
Okay, what about you?
What's your name?
My name's Nika.
You can just call me...
No, Nika.
How old are you?
I'm 24.
Where are you originally from?
I'm from Miami.
Are you single, relationship, sugar daddy, married, fiance?
A situation.
Okay.
Who is making it a situation, you or him?
Teamwork makes the dream work.
So in other words, he doesn't want to commit to you?
No, that means...
No, that's not what that means.
It's one of the two.
It's either he doesn't want to commit to you or he hasn't filled your requirements to be a boyfriend.
It's one of the two.
Which one is it?
No comment.
Okay, so he doesn't want to wife her up yet.
Fantastic.
Alright, what's your highest education level completed?
High school.
Okay.
Okay, and what do you do for work?
I'm a representative and I have my business on the side.
Representative of what?
Like a customer service representative, like a telemarketer.
And then I have my hair business.
Okay.
Customer service and you do hair on the side.
Yeah.
Alright, cool.
Sorry, I'm making a choice, man.
You have to get off the panel, man, because I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
No, no, no.
Chris, you can't do that, bro.
No, Chris.
No, Chris.
You sure you want her?
Chris, this is your fault, bro.
I don't want to know why you put them next to me all the time.
That's messed up.
No, we're gonna let it right now, nigga.
This is on you.
Go ahead.
Chris retarded, bro.
No, no, Fresh.
When she bought it, she was fine.
She took something on the way from the bathroom.
She's fine, all right.
She's fine, all right.
On the panel.
All right, go ahead.
She's fine.
She'll be good.
All right, what about you?
What's your name?
You good, sweetheart.
You good, right?
Don't mind him.
He's a big meanie.
Yo, Chad, you would've done, bro.
Oh, Chris, man.
Oh, Chris.
All right.
What about you?
What's your name?
My name is Tony, and I'm 22 years old.
Okay.
Where is he from?
I'm born and raised in Las Vegas.
Okay.
I just moved here three months ago.
Red flag.
Okay.
What do you do for it?
I'm in law school right now.
Okay.
Nice.
Well, you don't have to drop where you go to law school.
Where do you have your bachelor's degree in?
I have my bachelor's in criminal justice.
Where'd you get that from?
UNR, University of Nevada, Reno.
Okay.
Are you working right now or full-time student?
Full-time student.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
I am single.
Single.
All right, cool.
Single AF or just single?
AF. So I'm assuming you go to law school somewhere here in Miami.
Yeah.
Yeah, I moved here for law school.
Okay.
What about you?
Alright, so I'm Kilo.
Kilo?
Yep, Kilo.
Okay, alright.
I'm 21.
I'm originally from Maryland, but...
Red flag?
Red flag my ass!
What part of Maryland are you from?
Waldorf.
Okay.
Dumbledorf.
Anyways.
What do you do for work?
So I'm a full-time traveling model, but I do OnlyFans on the side.
Bruh.
So I think what you mean to say is that you do full-time, you do OnlyFans, OnlyFans, and then you travel a model on the side.
Okay, listen, actually, I kind of do OnlyFans.
I'm slacking a little bit on it.
Okay.
All right, so OnlyFans and a model.
All right, and then where are you, let's see here, highest education level completed?
High school, I have not done college.
Okay.
Relationship status?
I'm in a committed relationship.
Alright, cool.
How long have I been together?
We have been together for probably about six months now and we dated a year ago also.
Okay, how'd you guys meet?
We worked together actually.
I worked at a bar that I danced on top of.
I worked at Coyote Italy.
Haram.
So if you've seen the movie, you know what it's about.
Haram!
Alright, cool.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Nini.
Wait, Nini?
Oh, Nathalie, okay.
How old are you?
I'm 30.
Wait, 30?
Yeah.
Where are you originally from?
Cartagena, Colombia.
Okay, where'd you go to high school?
Burbank, California.
Okay, so I'll consider you from California.
Alright, what do you do for work?
I'm a bartender.
Okay, here in Miami somewhere, I'm guessing?
Yeah.
Okay, highest education level completed?
High school.
Okay.
Relationship status?
Single.
Okay.
Didn't even let me finish.
You already knew what time it was.
Body count, right?
Less than 10.
Less than 10?
Yes.
I was in a relationship for a really long time, so...
Okay, that makes sense.
How long were you all together?
Oh, just kidding.
Long time.
Over 10 years.
Over 10 years?
Yeah.
Who broke off the relationship?
It was a mutual hurting cycle.
Translation, he broke it up.
Okay.
It was definitely both of us hurting cycle.
It was a mutual thing.
I mean, realistically speaking, someone has to initiate the breakup more than the other.
And what I've come to realize...
It was a mutual thing, I promise.
It sounds like a yo-yo thing where you break up, get back together, break up, get back together.
It really is a yo-yo thing.
If you really knew how much of a yo-yo thing it was, it really is.
So you broke up with him once and he broke up with you once?
It was multiple times.
Okay, who did the last breakup then?
Me.
Okay, you did it.
Alright.
Now, I got a question for you.
I fucked up.
I fucked up.
Okay.
I was going to say, what did you do wrong in the relationship or what did you do wrong?
We both did wrong, but I did a little bit more and I'm a woman enough to admit that.
What'd you do?
I'm a fucking asshole.
And I talk a lot of shit.
Can you describe what being an asshole entails?
Talking a lot of shit and being a fucking asshole.
What did you say?
Horrible shit.
Like what?
What'd you say?
I don't know.
I guess she's not woman enough to tell us.
No, I am woman enough.
So what'd you say?
I'm curious.
That I wanted to break things off and that I could do better, but...
Put another cap?
Maybe, I don't know.
Okay.
Alright.
You know who she looks like from Instagram?
Who?
Kathy Drayden with the thick legs.
I don't know who that is.
You spend so much time on Instagram for us.
Screw you, bro.
Alright.
Cool.
Thanks, bro.
And then what did he do wrong in the relationship?
So you're saying you just talked a lot of shit.
What did he do wrong?
I tried to be everything that I could for him.
I... Stop the cap.
The question is what did he do wrong, not what did you do right.
So you already said what you did wrong.
He was exploring his options and I couldn't take it.
So he was having girls on the side and you didn't like that.
Is that what you mean by exploring options?
Exploring options, yeah, I guess.
Did he have money?
I mean, yeah.
She's Colombian.
He has to have money.
I mean, look, okay, so I came from a very poor lifestyle.
That's fine.
For me...
I'm just asking if he had money and he was an attractive guy.
He's gorgeous.
He's fucking beautiful.
He's a beautiful man.
Do you expect him to have sex with only you for the rest of his life?
Fuck no.
I knew it's up from the beginning.
So why could you accept it?
Because I have an ego and I'm dumb.
Duh.
Alright, I'll take that.
So you thought you were special.
Cool.
I did think I was special.
Now that you're a little bit older, do you realize that women aren't that special?
I wouldn't say that women aren't that special.
It's just that, okay, it depends on the man that you're talking to and the man that you're giving your time to.
What does that have to do with the question about special?
Because you could be special to one person and not to another.
You know what I mean?
I see what you're saying.
It all depends on how that person views you and how that person chooses to view you because it's a choice.
It's not like just a chance.
It's a choice that you make every day.
Alright.
What about you?
What's your name?
Welcome back.
Hey, how you doing?
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
I'm Nani.
I'm from Homestead.
Nani?
Nani?
Yeah, I know.
How old are you?
I'm 22.
High-level education completed.
I'm currently in Miami-Dade College for Journalism and Public Speaking.
Okay.
Relationship status.
I'm in a relationship.
Okay.
How long have you been together?
I would say like three months now.
Okay.
Wait, that's a new guy?
Come on.
I'm sorry, my bad.
Yeah, I guess it is.
All right, cool.
Okay.
She moved quick, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, damn.
And do you work right now or full-time student?
I'm a part-time student and I work right now.
I'm a nail technician, hairstylist, and model.
Okay, cool.
All right, what about you?
My name's Jules.
I'm from New Jersey.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm 21.
What part of Jersey are you from?
It's like a small town.
Shrewsbury.
How long have you been down here in Miami?
I'm actually two hours from Miami.
I stay in Port St.
Lucie.
Goddamn.
You came from far.
Okay, so that's where you stay now.
Relationship status?
I'm single.
And what do you do for it?
I'm a bottle girl at a strip club.
In Port St.
Lucie?
Yeah.
Holy hell.
Red flag possible.
Do you wear a dress when you go to work?
Huge.
That's crazy.
Yeah, I know it's crazy.
And then, what's your highest education level completed?
High school.
Cool.
All right.
Should we hit the chats, or do you want to hit the question first?
Chats first.
Chats first?
Okay.
Unless, Nico, Destin, you guys have something you want to kick off.
Do you feel comfortable with Myron's hat?
You feel like you got it?
No, I'm okay.
You're the one that gets triggered more than anybody here, aren't you?
No, you're not alone anymore.
Oh, yeah.
Actually, I have a quick question for the panel.
Does everyone here know who Andrew Tate is?
Just raise your hand if you do.
If you know who Andrew Tate is.
Who?
He was in news recently for being detained.
Oh, Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate, yeah.
It took me a minute.
It's a bald guy, right?
Sorry, three people don't know.
Okay, cool.
All right, that's fine.
Wait, are you awake?
Yeah, I'm awake.
No, no.
You're talking to me, right?
You were dreaming, it wasn't us.
Do you know who Andrew Tate is?
Yeah, I just don't know much about him.
What do you know about him?
There's not much.
This is going to be a long night.
Okay.
Let's check, bro.
Okay.
Chris might be right.
If she stays much longer, we might be sharing this out with Andrew tonight.
I'm not sure.
Bruh.
Okay.
All right.
Ladies, name three countries.
We'll start here and work our way back.
Okay.
Right here.
Name three countries.
And it can't be the USA. Can't be the United States.
And you can't repeat whatever it was said before you.
Can we start here?
Jesus.
No.
Stop.
Stop.
Please.
Please.
No way.
You know what?
We should give her a fighting chance.
Oh, no.
We should.
We should.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
So if you don't mind, name three countries outside of the US. Top of your head.
Two countries.
Me?
Outside the top of my head?
I don't know.
Africa, Asia.
Okay.
One more.
One more.
You got it, lady.
South America.
She did it!
American education system.
Your final answer for three countries is, for three countries, Africa, Asia, and South America?
Yeah.
Okay.
Who's the president of Africa?
Amen.
What about the president of Asia?
This cannot be real life right now.
Alright, moving on.
What about you?
Can you name three countries?
I would say Europe.
Europe?
Africa.
Okay.
She already named Africa.
You got two more.
Is this really fair?
Aren't there only like seven countries?
Stop giving away hints.
Two more countries.
You got this.
Just one more.
My Black Queen got this, man.
You got this.
Stop.
The motherland of Africa.
Two more countries, please.
Wakanda.
Talocan.
Thank you.
I don't want to say it.
I don't know.
Just say it.
It's fine.
You got two more.
Just go for it, girl.
Just go for it.
I promise you, just go for it.
Do you ever want kids?
Excuse me?
Do you ever want to have kids?
Of course.
Okay.
Just wondering.
Okay.
That was wrong.
Europe and Africa.
What's that wrong?
I don't know.
I just don't want to say the wrong thing.
I mean...
Just give whatever's on your mind.
Think about a vacation you want to go on.
I'm thinking about like, right now I got my mind like Paris.
Europe, Africa, and Paris.
Come on now.
You can say that.
Europe, Africa, okay.
So we're six for six right now.
I know Paris is not a country, okay?
No, it is.
It is.
The great nation of Paris.
Don't let it be.
So your final answer is Europe, Paris, and what?
United Kingdom.
How about that?
Damn.
Okay.
What about you?
Three countries, please.
Germany, Bulgaria, and Italy.
I can keep going.
Stop right there!
We're trying to make it as easy as possible.
What about you?
Canada, India, Russia.
I don't fucking know.
WIQ.
Colombia, Argentina, Brasil.
Oh, we need it.
Why do you say it all spicy like that?
Because of the sex.
Because that's just, that's my culture.
I don't know what else to say.
That's my culture.
You said Colombia, Argentina, and Brazil?
I'm pretty sure Brazil is not your culture.
Yeah, for real.
Well, not culture, but it's the same.
Don't encourage her, bro.
What about you?
Egypt, Dubai, and Jamaica.
Dubai.
I love Dubai.
Well, Jamaica, it's like an island, but can we...
Alright, fuck it.
Belize.
Who's the president of Dubai?
I don't know.
I ain't been over there yet.
We can tell.
Alright.
What about you?
Three countries?
Man, y'all can skip me.
Nah, you got it, you got it.
You got it, man.
You got it.
We believe in you.
You drove two hours.
Exactly.
I said Dubai, so come on now.
Listen, you're single, right?
Yes.
He could be watching right now.
I don't mean nothing.
It's the love of your life.
She already said Italy, though.
You got this.
Think about your vacations when you travel with your bae.
We all going, man.
Other than Grenada.
Okay.
I would love to go to India.
Someone said that.
Two more.
You got this.
Forget the Popeyes.
Where else are you going?
Goddamn.
It's hard for you.
There's only like 160 countries left.
I know, but...
Ten hours later.
Two days later.
Three days later.
That's a good impression.
You want some help?
Yes.
There is no lifelines.
You said Dubai, I don't get help from her!
Just say country, bro!
You don't want to travel?
Two more, bro.
Someone already said Africa, so...
That's not even a country.
No, Africa's the great country of Africa.
I just want to say, like, Switzerland?
Okay.
One more.
One more.
Green leaves.
Tell me what you just did.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
This is a W show, by the way.
Clip that chat.
Yeah, this is incredible.
Paris is not a country, South America is a continent, Asia is a continent, and Africa is a continent.
So nice job, ladies.
And then Dubai is a city.
And the United Emirates.
Would you rather have a man who provides everything for you but cheats or a man who barely provides but is loyal?
Dreamer.
That's a good question.
We'll start here.
So would you prefer a guy that provides everything for you but fucks some chicks on the side or he's loyal but he doesn't provide you anything?
He's broke.
Loyal.
So you'll take the broke loyal guy?
Yes.
Okay.
What about you?
I'll take the guy that cheats.
Okay.
What about you?
I'll take the fucking cheater.
They're all cheaters anyways.
Okay.
She's 30, bro.
What about you?
Broken loyal because I make my own motherfucking money.
I don't give a fuck.
You're slacking on your own OnlyFans and you're going to provide?
You can't even do OnlyFans properly.
No, genuinely.
I hear that a lot from OnlyFans girls.
It's hard work.
It's taking pictures once in a while and posting it online.
It's very easy.
And then all the time, I'm slacking.
I'm like, hold on.
You want to take that?
I make my own money.
I do mostly photo shoots and shit.
I do only fans on the side.
I love what I do.
I'm happy with what I do.
And I make more than enough money to provide for what I do.
That's true.
You age out eventually.
If that's your main source of revenue, then how are you going to start a family when after 28 women don't make any money in modeling?
Eventually, I'm going to start my own business and figure out what the fuck I want to do with them.
But right now, I've got my own shit going.
I'm happy with what I do.
I get to go literally look hot and fucking take pictures all day and make my money.
Let me ask you a question.
So, you know, you work hard.
You make this money.
Would you be okay with supporting a man financially?
Yeah.
I mean...
So, okay.
Here's the thing.
Here we go.
So...
Honestly, I am happy with being able to support myself financially and everything, but I think I need to be with somebody that meets me financially.
Congratulations for contradicting yourself.
The original question is, do you want a guy that will provide for you?
Or a guy that's broke and loyal.
The first one, you're making it sound like she can be a stay-at-home mom, which it sounds like she doesn't want to be.
No, no, no, because I said broke and loyal, which means she would have to support him.
And she's saying she would do that, then now she's contradicting herself saying, oh no, he's got to be on my level.
I'd rather the whole loyal thing, but I also like the fact that I make my own money and everything, but I think...
Okay, so what are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Are you doing the loyal or are you doing the cheater?
What you doing?
What you doing?
You learned something from the first show.
I mean...
Aren't you guys frustrating?
Like, once you realize it, you're like, damn, I make no sense.
I'm delusional.
I don't...
How do I live like this?
The loyalty is like the whole thing.
So that's what it is.
Alright, so broken loyal.
Broken loyal.
Alright, cool.
Broken loyal or money and fucking bitches.
What about you?
Money and fucking bitches.
But out of sight, out of mind.
You're taking all W's tonight.
I'm single.
What about you?
I'm going to go with teeter and making that money.
And what about you?
Broken lawyer.
All about that love.
I have hearts out over my body with tattoos.
All about that love.
All about that love.
I'm wishing it would just happen one day.
I mean, I know it's like a real...
There's plenty of broke guys that would be happy to be with you.
It might not happen, but I'm still holding on to that fairy tale dream.
To be honest, I feel like life isn't worth it if you're not enjoying it, enjoying who you're with and everything.
Loving someone means a lot, I guess.
I'm scared for this next generation, bro.
Me too.
I'm scared.
No, and I'm living in it.
I can hear the Zanko.
Okay.
Who do you think loves for real Manny?
Men or women?
If we had to pick one of the two.
Who loves harder?
More unconditionally?
Closer?
Because unconditional love isn't real.
But who's the closest to it?
Would you say men or women?
And we'll start...
I regret doing this, but we'll start here.
The question is...
Who is closer to unconditional love?
Men or women?
To unconditional love?
Yeah.
Closest to it.
It's not...
Unconditional love isn't real, but who's the closest to it?
I feel like it's women, honestly.
Although it's starting, I feel like they're changed as the years go on and the decades and all that, but I hear that's a while from now.
What about you?
That's a little picky.
I'm gonna say, like, men.
What makes you say men?
Um, men are like more protective.
Like women can nurture, but men are like more protective of like...
So you think that means they love more?
They love harder?
If I'm about to...
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm going to say women because I think, you know, it's really easy to get women to be ride or dies, you know what I mean?
I think it's really easy.
You think so?
I think so.
I think it's easy to get women to fall really hard and pretty easily.
Let me ask you a question.
Who has more conditions to love the opposite gender, men or women?
Who has more requirements?
I mean, again, that's like a black and white question.
I really think it's both.
I think women have a lot of expectations for men, and I think men have a lot of expectations when they pick a woman.
Do you think men in general have the same amount of expectations as women have of men, realistically speaking?
I mean, yeah.
No, absolutely.
I think, you know, there's a lot of...
So you think men are just as picky as women?
Absolutely.
Really?
Some men, yeah.
I mean, if you're gonna wife her up, yeah, there's pickiness.
Okay.
To fuck?
No.
But even for wifing up, you think that they're as picky as women are?
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
I think there's a lot of things that women do that, you know, men definitely look at and consider.
I mean, just take out nails, hair, makeup.
Interesting.
Okay.
Okay.
What about you?
Oh, we're scared of the guys on this one?
No, you guys will come last.
I just don't want you guys to influence the girls.
I think women 100%.
Why do you say that?
Sorry.
I think women 100% because women express their emotions more, I feel like.
I don't know.
How do I explain this?
With words.
I'm trying.
So, women like I'm thinking.
Fantastic.
So pretty much, I think women feel things more than men, I guess, or are more comfortable sharing things more than men.
And I also think it depends on what stage of life you're in, how old you're in, how you think about things as well.
So there's a lot of factors that come into it in my perspective.
So because women are more emotional, you think they are closer to loving unconditionally than men are?
Alright, what about you, Ms.
Columbia?
I think it's men who are love more unconditionally.
What makes you say that?
Because women are so beautiful and when a man falls in love, he falls in love.
So you think the reason why men love harder is because of women's beauty?
Definitely.
Okay.
What about you?
Unconditionally?
Closer to unconditionally, because let's be honest, love is never unconditional.
Right.
I'm gonna go with the men.
Why?
Because, honestly, men put up, like, with a lot of shit.
So, men put up with nagging, you know, laziness, uncleanness, like, it's a lot of shit men put up with, so they just be like, hmm, I'll stick with it one day or, you know, find something else.
Alright, what about you?
I feel like women, because we're just naturally more emotional, I feel like.
So we just love harder.
Okay.
All right.
I'll turn it to the guys.
Yeah.
Being emotional does not equate to love.
Women wait at the finish line.
They don't want to be running the race with the man.
They just kind of reap the benefits of what you accomplish.
I think men love their woman like they love a dog.
That's why they say dog is man's best friend, because we are...
We are more unconditional.
Once you're my girl, you're my girl.
So the stuff that makes you upset, cheating and stuff like that, that has nothing to do with the woman.
As long as the woman is playing her role, a man's never really going to leave.
Even as you age and you get uglier and stuff like that, we might get with the younger girl on the side, but I'm not going to abandon my girl.
That's my girl.
We're possessive about our love.
You're more emotional because that's just your genetic makeup.
It doesn't mean that you fall in love more.
Destiny?
I feel like women love more.
I think, on average, I think women are more emotionally mature.
And I think that love, outside of, like, the fairytale bullshit, requires a lot of actual, like, emotional upkeep, a lot of emotional labor.
I think a lot of guys can't put that in.
I don't think feeling possessive or jealous is love, just because you get, like, really ass-mad if your woman does something, or if you get, like, really jealous or possessive, a woman doesn't mean you love her more.
So, I think women, in general, are willing to put more emotional work in relationships.
So, I'll say they love more.
Would you also say, to add to the argument here, that women break up with men more than men break up with women?
What do you think?
Break up with?
I don't know.
Yeah, okay.
Alright.
Well, I mean, this is why I like having Destiny on.
I disagree with Destiny.
I think men love far more than women do, and I think men are closer to loving idealistically because men love women under far less conditions than women love men.
That sounds like the opposite of love to me.
If you love under far less conditions, that sounds like desperation.
I don't want somebody that loves me for like one or two reasons or whatever, right?
I want them to be a lot of reasons why they love me.
But what I'm saying is that for a man to love a woman, she does not have to jump us through as many hoops and meet as many requirements as for a woman needs to love a man.
So in other words, the guy's got to reach a certain level to even be acknowledged by the woman.
However, that woman, she could be mediocre and still get the garner the love from a man who is superior to her in every way, which, you know, from a biological standpoint, that makes sense because men date down and women date up.
So we make the question genderless.
Who loves more?
Somebody with high standards or low standards?
All else equal.
Because that's what you're essentially saying.
Obviously, the person with high standards loves more because you're being more selective of your partner.
So, of course, you're going to love that partner more.
But it's 100% contingent upon the other party's ability to provide and perform, is my point.
Like, a woman doesn't have a burden of performance to earn her love from her man.
I mean, if you're telling guys to, like, look for a woman that's just young and can cook, then of course there's no burden of performance.
But again, like, how much of love is that?
Like, I love you so much.
Like, why?
Because I can cook and I'm young?
Like, you can find a million girls that can cook in here.
If you get two reasons for it, then like, yeah.
That is true.
But what I'm saying is that if you take a majority of men versus a majority of women, a majority of men would like a majority of women.
However, a majority of women definitely don't like a majority of men.
Yeah, I agree.
That's why I think women love more.
Because when they pick somebody, they're selective about it.
They put more time and energy into it, for sure.
Whereas for a guy, the woman is a lot more replaceable.
That's why even Sneeko over here was like, oh, you know, you might step out and fuck another bitch or whatever.
And it's like, okay, well, how much do you actually love your woman if you're willing to do something like that?
That has nothing to do with how much you love the person.
It absolutely does.
Why?
Because it requires you to step out of your own selfish frame of reference to see how your partner feels about something.
If you only prioritize the things that you want in life, that says something about how you view love of another person.
It's not really prioritizing, it's just doing what you want to do.
Yeah, that's called being selfish.
It's usually what you do when you don't love somebody.
So they can get what they want, but we can get what we want as well?
Depends on what you want.
If you're dating a cannibal and they want to eat you, it's not like both of you have fair ass, right?
But what we ask for is so small, though, compared to what they ask for.
To fuck other women?
To be disloyal?
To maybe knock another woman up?
To maybe step out of your girl and just start dating another woman?
How is that a small ask?
Not only that, bringing something back home.
Yeah, with STDs.
Imagine you come home and you're like, oh shit, I got another girl pregnant.
You're in a whole fucking world of agony there.
Yeah.
See, the thing here is that, and the reason why I disagree, and I see where you're going with this saying that women have far more requirements, therefore they love harder because those requirements are harder to find.
What I'm saying is that by having more requirements, that makes it where their love is 100% contingent upon that man's performance.
So it's fleeting because if that guy loses what he had...
That woman will leave.
And I've always said it, shout out to Rollo, I agree with him on this.
Women love opportunistically, while men tend to love idealistically.
I think that one, you already said that.
Let me just finish real quick.
I think the fact that they love opportunistically proves there in itself That they don't love as hard as men do.
They don't love idealistically.
They love based on, I need this guy to perform something for me, then I can love him.
Whereas a man is like, okay, these are my requirements.
You're attractive.
You can cook just like we discussed before.
That's good enough for me.
And that guy will fall in love with her versus for her.
It's like, you need to perform.
Sure.
So for your question, you give a good qualifier that now seems like you're abandoning, which is you don't believe in unconditional love.
Nobody loves unconditionally.
So if you're talking about a man with very few requirements, and you're going to say, well, if you're not meeting the performance like a man to a woman, then she's going to leave you.
Well, probably the same thing is true for the man as well.
Really?
So you think the average man would stay with a woman if she got battery acid attacked and lost both legs or something?
There's not a condition.
Now you're making it the extreme.
What would happen to a woman that you wouldn't be with her anymore?
I guess if your standards are really low, then maybe you wouldn't care.
But again, this isn't a man versus woman.
This is high standards versus low standards.
If your only standards are, I need you to cook and I guess not cheat on me, then sure.
I mean, you can find a lot of people that will fit the bill.
But then again, if I and my partner are side by side and we're asked to describe why do we love each other, and I say, okay, I really love my partner because she cooks really well and she's never fucked another guy where we're dating.
And it's like, okay.
And then she says, oh, well, I love him because of this and that and that and that and that.
Well, who loves each other more?
That just seems like a weird...
It just seems like a weird thing to me.
It's like, oh, well, I like her because of these two things.
I can find literally every other woman on the planet.
Remember the question I said, who is closer to unconditional love?
I didn't hear that.
I thought you said who loves more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's closer to unconditional love?
Because I said first, okay...
Unconditional love isn't realistic.
Okay, well in that case, the unconditional love is going to be the one with the lower standards.
So if you're a low standard guy, then sure, it's easier for you to love.
And I mean, I see that you switched the point a little bit saying, no, like, you know, men, women love more because they have more standards.
But my thing is, who's closer to unconditional love?
And I would argue it's the men because we have far less conditions than women do.
Sure.
Well, in that case, the closest to unconditional love would be people with, like, Down syndrome or something, right?
You see somebody, you smile.
You know, if that's the ideal, you're going to act like a retard.
I mean, yeah.
As long as you feed them, they'll love you.
But let's be honest here.
A lot of guys are retards when it comes to slugging.
I would argue that women are far more selective than men and more intelligent when it comes to the mate selection process versus men are, quite frankly, a lot of the time stupid.
They'll be with a girl that is using them, abusing them, treating them like shit, maybe yelling at them and telling them they're a loser, right?
Like someone here on the panel.
Guys will tolerate a lot more in a relationship than a woman will with a guy.
That's what I've noticed.
I'm just curious now for the panel, ladies.
What do you look for in a guy before you take him serious?
And we'll start right here.
No, no, no, no.
We'll start here then.
What do you look for in a guy, your dream guy, you're hoping for her to find?
Before I take him serious?
Yes.
Yeah.
That he's not narcissistic.
Okay.
I hate narcissistic.
Yeah.
Me too.
It blows me because you're supposed to grew up in Kendall and I grew up in Homestead and it's just like, wow, that's what that came out like.
So I'm appreciative of Homestead.
What the fuck?
Because that's what Kendall has to offer.
What do you look for in a guy?
Oh, when I look for a guy?
Oh man, it's complicated.
Yeah.
I guess I like similarities, but then I like the opposites, like the complete opposites because it's kind of like balances it out.
Like I'm an introvert.
I'm an INFJ, you know, personality type.
So...
What's your star sign?
I don't know.
Oh, come on, you know.
I don't know my star sign.
Your headphones fell off, silly.
I'm a Pisces.
I'm addicted to the water like crazy.
The ocean and everything.
I'm a Virgo.
Are we compatible?
It's possible, but I don't know.
You're funny, Chris.
I don't know why that happens.
Yeah, why?
I don't know.
Keep talking.
I just don't know.
No, Chris, man.
I'm assuming that you don't know what you want in a man, right?
Who?
You.
Me?
Yeah.
No, I do.
I just want a man that's going to be faithful and not cheat on me.
Okay.
Faithful.
Faithful to you.
What else?
Faithful, not narcissistic, and what was the third one?
No, narcissistic.
No, narcissistic, yeah.
Sorry, guys.
I stand corrected.
Do not abuse me!
Okay.
That's enough.
I know that's enough.
Well, that could be like the third one, too.
Not abusive.
Okay?
That's it.
Number three, not abusive.
Not abusive.
There we go.
Got it.
Fantastic.
Do you have Narcan in this?
This is PTSD. Okay.
Yes.
What about you?
Alright, so it would be nurturing.
You want him to nurture you?
What?
No, it should be vice-versa.
We're asking what you want in the man.
No, not to nurture me.
That's quite literally what you said.
Be caring.
Yeah, you can say that.
I'm not going to even like do that.
I'm not.
Bruh.
What the fuck is going on, man?
Yo, I know it's almost New Year's, but ladies.
This is strong, man.
Call me.
Disclaimer, right?
All I do is watch my streams, okay?
I see certain things.
All right, cool.
And they come in.
No, Chris.
Chris is a boss.
She wasn't like that when she first walked in chat.
I swear to God.
Okay.
To be fair to Chris, though, he had no idea how they are.
But you should screen them a little better, bro.
I don't know, bro.
Chris, you wouldn't know.
I get it.
You wouldn't know.
Okay.
So he's nurturing, number one.
Okay.
All right.
So nurturing and respectful.
Okay.
And...
Let me see.
That's all.
That's it?
That's all.
We need one more.
Three.
Right?
It was three, Walt?
Or was it only two?
At first, it was two.
So, I'm going to stick with my two.
Was it two or three?
It was two.
It was two for her.
I remember.
But three for you.
No, she had a handicap.
See what I did there?
Dang.
Y'all roll a dice on me.
Wait a minute.
So, let's say you're out and about.
You find a guy.
Simple.
Three things that you like in a guy.
Looks.
Okay, so handsome, nurturing, and then respectful.
Respect.
I'm good.
I'm heavy on it.
You got hella chances here.
Alright, what about you?
My number one thing is definitely confidence.
You know what I mean?
When you have a man that's confident, walks in a room and knows how to make something going and he's confident when he's talking to me, definitely that.
Second thing, respected.
That kind of goes along with confidence.
The more confident and respected he is in life, that's going to bring me up as well.
You know what I mean?
The more he does, the more I come along with him.
Sorry, Chad.
The screen froze.
I'm not sure what's going on.
On YouTube?
Let me check.
It froze on YouTube?
Yeah, so I'm not sure.
Might have to refresh the page.
Yeah, just refresh StreamYard.
Alright, guys, let us know...
Give us ones in the chat if you guys can hear us on YouTube and like buffered out or with some shit like that.
But I think we should be good on YouTube.
We're back here.
Okay, my bad.
Okay, so we were at, okay, going back to your three traits.
You said confidence and then respect because as he garners respect throughout the world, you get a benefit of that, right?
Absolutely.
And then what was your third part?
Funny.
I want to have fun with you.
I want to laugh.
I want to giggle.
Okay.
Giggly.
Cool.
All right.
What about you?
Alright, probably loyal, respectful, and goal-driven.
Okay.
Goal-driven.
I thought you wanted to provide for your men.
I have a non-monetary goal.
What's a non-monetary goal?
Could be working out, could be doing a hobby, could be practicing music.
I don't know, there's a ton of things.
Practicing music is not a goal.
I don't know any kind of goal that makes you happy in life, that makes you succeed in life.
I don't know.
What if he wants to play video games all day?
That's his goal.
You okay with that?
To play Factorio.
What if he's really good at Factorio?
I mean, he does make a living off it.
What if he plays video games all day?
Would you be cool with that?
He's goal-driven.
It is goal-driven to him.
Wait, what if he's really good at video games?
You know what I mean by goal-driven?
No, I do know.
It's just that I want the guys to understand.
When a girl says goal-driven, translation, goal-driven and something that will make some type of monetary compensation for me and you together.
Fair?
Fair.
See, this is what I mean when I say all women are gold diggers, some are just better at hiding the shovel.
That's what I mean.
Wait, hold on.
I'm going to amend that answer.
I don't think it's goal driven and things that give me your money.
I think it's goal driven and something that your partner can appreciate.
You can be the best video game player in the world.
Your partner's going to give a fuck.
Your partner's going to give a fuck if you're the best League of Legends player ever because they can't participate in it.
But even if you do shit like fucking art or painting or photography or something, there's something that they can participate in or appreciate and be like, oh, you're getting better at this.
It's like a part of our life or something.
But she said it.
She said it after you insinuated it.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah.
So notice what she said, but that's not what she meant.
What do you mean?
It is monetary to some extent, because if you're just taking photographs all day and you're not publishing them anywhere, you don't put them in a gallery, or there's no actual reward system, there's no way to measure your success, then it's not actually goal-driven if you're just taking pictures every day and then hanging up on your wall.
It's hard to believe.
There are plenty of ways to measure success.
It isn't just monetary.
She just admitted it by her own thing.
Oh, she might be monetary.
But I'm just saying that when somebody says they want something with goals, just because video gaming doesn't count, it doesn't mean they only want it to be monetary.
Can you be a successful person that had their goals accomplished that wasn't monetary?
A successful person?
I'm sure there are a lot of successful people that have goals or hobbies or things they do on the side that fucking George Bush paints pictures.
Nobody considers George Bush a successful painter.
No one gives a fuck.
Yeah, but he might be successful in the craft of his painting.
That's not the primary thing he does in his life, though.
What's your measurement of success?
Something that, I don't know, she said something that makes you happy.
It could be something that makes you happy, something that you can just excel at, you can dump time into, that is like a non-person thing that you get a lot of joy and accomplishment from doing well in.
I'll be honest, Destiny, even though that's ideal and that sounds good, I don't think men get to have that privilege of being able to do what they enjoy, be successful at it, without it making money like women can.
I'll give you an example of this.
Hold on, let me finish.
Okay, go ahead.
I see girls.
I do art.
I read signs.
I do a bunch of...
I rap.
You know, they do hobbies or whatever, and this is what I'm interested in.
No guy is going to be like, that doesn't make money.
It's stupid.
But if a guy is interested in a hobby or something, let's say he builds ships, right?
But it doesn't make money.
A girl isn't really going to respect that if it doesn't bring him some kind of status or money versus a man is going to look down upon a woman for her hobbies to the same level because there's no burden on...
You just have to be able to translate it to something that is appealing to them.
You can say that a hobby that doesn't make money isn't going to attract anybody, but give any motherfucking loser a guitar and have him write a four chord song for a woman and she's going to like it.
Or you play piano for a girl, or you do photography really well and you offer to take pictures for her Instagram or some shit, or you paint her a fucking picture, people like that shit 100%.
But here's the point.
If you can make a gift for your wife or girlfriend for a birthday, you're so far ahead of the average fucking dude.
I'm glad you mentioned that.
That's the key difference.
For the girl, she's got to benefit somehow from your hobby.
The man, you don't give a fuck about her hobby if it benefits him or not.
But the woman always has to get a benefit from your hobby.
Whether it's monetary compensation, you play video games when it makes money, or you having some kind of skill, you play music, you serenade or whatever, but it doesn't make any money, the woman must benefit.
Whereas the woman can have a skill or a trait, do it, and the man ain't gonna give a fuck.
How many girls do dumbass hobbies like, I make clothes, I do this, I do that?
I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
You played a very clever game there where you changed it from that has to make a lot of money to, well, it has to make a lot of money or be emotionally satisfactory, which I will agree with you if you're going to amend the definition to that.
I will say a majority of women are going to want the monetary compensation, and then there are some that will say, okay, it doesn't have to make money, but I got a benefit.
You want to be a fucking shitty guitarist?
Cool.
You better serenade me, nigga.
That's how it's got to go.
But most girls want the monetary compensation.
And that is monetary in a way because that's replacing the Birkin bag.
If you play her a song for her birthday...
You're saving $30,000.
It's not a replacement.
If you're in a good relationship with somebody, a gift that comes from the heart, all that, can I say gay shit here?
If you do all of that work and you put in something and you put together some special once in a lifetime fucking gift for somebody, that's a priceless gift.
It absolutely is.
Ladies, anyone want to chime in on this one?
You got anything?
Alright.
I want to keep it open for them.
I personally feel like if somebody could Yeah, if you can do something for me that's super sweet with your hobby, that'll be awesome.
But I feel like I'll love somebody no matter what, whether their hobby benefited me or not.
If I love them.
There was a guy online, right?
Until you talk shit about them consistently and you guys break up.
I mean, it doesn't always work that way.
He couldn't play guitar.
So, for example, who in here likes RC cars?
Anybody like RC cars?
Yeah, they're super cool.
Okay.
They can do a lot of cool shit.
There's a guy online.
RC cars is his main hobby, right?
His girl, think of a shit.
I mean, they're cars, right?
However, what he did was he would post on YouTube the videos.
When he got big and then started to go viral, then she wanted to come to all his RC video shoots.
And then, before that, he did a special thing for her where he put, I guess, a heart on her figurine on the RC car and drove around.
And she didn't give a fuck.
When he blew up, then she cared.
So I'm just saying like, if there's like an innate benefit to it, they may want to do it.
I think it depends on the woman that you're talking about.
Not really.
Not really, bro.
No woman likes when a guy's playing video games all day and like her attention is, she has to compete with the video game's attention.
You know that every single girl hates that.
On the inverse, when your girl is doing something like making clothes, or you're doing your We're just happy that you're happy.
That's why, actually, we love more.
The insult factor over here.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Women don't like watching guys play video games for typically two reasons.
One, it's because you can't understand fucking anything, okay?
So when you watch a thing and the guy's just playing and you scream at people, usually it takes their mood out of whack.
Usually they're spending too much time on it.
This is why women don't typically like when guys play video games.
Yeah, or that.
Yeah, they're playing games until like 4am and you never see them in bed.
I see attention.
But if you, sure.
But I think that women in general like it when guys have hobbies that they can like, they see that the guy is really interested in.
Even if it doesn't 100% translate to the woman, I think that they generally have an appreciation for that.
Because it shows how you could be interested in me.
Sure, maybe.
Or it might be something as dumb as like, even if you're like working on your fucking car all day, right?
As long as you're not like putting your whole life into it, right?
I think a woman likes it when you can see a guy that has like a hobby.
He's putting a lot of like time and passion into it.
And it like flushes the guy out a bit more.
I think most women appreciate that.
They do, but there's a clause.
If the tension is too much on that, oh hell no, nigga.
Sure, but that's going to be true for anything.
I should be the only thing.
If your woman has...
Sure, maybe not for the Miami girls, okay?
But for normal women, okay?
For normal human beings, okay?
For normal...
She's in Miami, okay?
For normal human beings, okay?
If a woman has a hobby, if a woman has a hobby...
How do you know that?
If a woman...
I live in Glendale.
Burbank's not any better, okay?
Listen.
You said it earlier.
If a woman is into something so much, she's ignoring the guy, the guy's not going to be happy with that either, right?
I mean, like, people want some bare minimum of attention, of course.
But that applies for guys, men, girls.
But for guys, it doesn't really happen because we know that for a girl to fall in love with us, we are going to be more lovable than whatever their hobby is.
So we never have to compete with their Depop or their gardening because we know that she's eventually going to want our attention.
Yeah, but a guy's going to want the attention of the girl too, to some extent.
Have you ever felt like you needed to compete with a woman's hobby?
I don't think men ever experience that.
Because if your girl loves you, she's just gonna end up next to you.
I don't know if women have the same type of self-destructive hobbies that men...
Why do you call it self-destructive?
When I'm talking about mass video game and fucking pornography and shit, that's pretty self-destructive, right?
But some women have addictions to pornography too.
That's awesome.
I don't think generally women have the same types of hobbies.
Do they?
Can you think of some that are comparable to video games and porn?
I was going to say that most women don't even have hobbies.
What?
If I'm going to be all the way...
I think you're wrong about that.
Attention is your hobby.
Bruh, if I'm gonna be all the way 1,000 honest about this shit, if you take a typical attractive girl that's 22 years old and ask her, what are your hobbies, she's gonna say stupid shit like, I like to go shopping and hang out with friends.
That might be true, but whose fault is that?
When you earlier say a guy's expectation for a girl is to be young and cook.
Well, of course, women aren't gonna do anything.
They'll rise to meet your standards.
Of course.
But like, if you go and you talk to a lot of women, okay, outside of some of the circles here, maybe, you talk to a lot of women, you say, when you go on dates with guys, a lot of them will say, yeah, a lot of guys have no fucking hobbies, no interests either.
A lot of people are just fucking boring.
Everybody's on TikTok.
Everybody's watching porn.
Everybody's watching YouTube, right?
Like, everybody's doing it.
It's not like there are all these guys that have this rich, like, plethora of hobbies that they're working on.
Here's the difference.
There is a burnout performance on men to be interesting to some degree, and hobbies help accentuate that.
Women, however, don't have a burden of performance to be interesting or, you know, entertaining or anything.
So a lot of them don't have hobbies and a lot of them don't work on themselves.
Sure, I largely agree with that, but that's because of guys with low standards.
Stop simping.
Dude, that's right.
Stop simping.
I agree.
We'll come out soon.
Why women deserve less.
Exactly.
Yo, I'm telling y'all, bro, I talk about this deeply in the book, how a lot of girls are not interesting as a byproduct of today's society where guys don't hold women to standards.
They don't.
A lot of guys, oh, you're hot and available?
Cool!
But think about it.
Why would you self-improve if you got all the men that you wanted just for existing?
Well, men for fucking, men for relationships, right?
I think there's oftentimes, we don't draw the distinction on a lot of Red Pill or Manosphere talking points where we talk about, like, relationships versus fucking.
Because we'll say these things all the time, like, women have access to everybody.
That's not true.
Women can fuck anybody, but they can't date anybody.
That's a way different thing.
Here's the problem.
I agree with you, but they conflate that sexual attraction and that attention for dating.
I can't tell how many girls will say, I got a million guys in my DMs.
And in their, you know, female brain, no offense to ladies here, not trying to say y'all are retarded, but sometimes you are.
They'll think, I got a thousand DMs.
All these guys are potential suitors.
They love me.
And they look at it like, yo, I can pull these guys.
But the reality is all those guys want to fuck.
I don't think the girls think they can pull those guys.
If they respond, the guys are going, bro.
Come on.
If they respond, they'll fuck.
But I don't think the average...
Probably when they're like 18, 19, 20.
But when you get burned a couple times, I think you'll...
All those guys are sending it to like three, four other girls.
And we all know that shit.
But you still fall for it every single time.
For a girl to have That's completely true.
If a girl is sitting on a date and I'm just saying a bunch of garbage, talking about astrology, I'm talking about my feelings and my delusion and my whatever career that nobody cares about, she's going to be disgusted with me and she's not going to want to have sex with me.
On the inverse, every guy can relate to this.
Type one in the chat if you know what I'm talking about.
You've been on a date and a girl starts talking about what she does, her crystals.
She starts talking about what she believes in.
It's all garbage.
She's talking about Woke nonsense horoscopes.
And you're listening.
You're like, this fucking retard.
And you still sit through the whole day and you entertain it.
And then you still smash.
And you might even smash again.
Even the whole time you're thinking, I hate you.
You're annoying.
I genuinely...
I don't hate your existence.
I just hate the words that are coming out of your mouth.
Like, your existence is annoying and I'm still gonna fuck.
Every guy has experienced that on the inverse.
Girls cannot do that.
Girls show their disgust.
If you do anything wrong...
Like yesterday, I got in the car with Fresh and I was eating a big-ass burger with onions on it.
And I was rushing into his car.
And I'm making jokes or whatever.
Some of the girls are laughing.
But the girl next to me, she smelled the onion.
And then immediately, that just made her disgust.
And she couldn't get over that.
To be fair, Stiko, onions are disgusting.
If I smell onions on a bitch breath, I'm still fucking.
What?!
I'm still fucking.
I mean, that is true.
I'm not kissing, but I'm still gonna like, I'm already here.
I'm dressed up.
I want to get something out of this.
What he's describing is that the bar isn't as high for men to disqualify a girl as it is for a woman to disqualify a man.
A man will tolerate a lot more fuckery from a woman than a woman will tolerate fuckery from a man.
I will still fuck a girl who thinks that Africa is a country.
Some women are thirsty as fuck and won't tolerate anything.
Wait, hold on.
Yeah.
Isn't part of the philosophy of this show that if you're a high-value man and you make a lot of money, you can do a whole bunch of fucking stupid shit and women will tolerate it?
No.
Wasn't that the...
Didn't we ask a question on one of these two over here where it's like, oh, did this guy make a lot of money?
With the implication being, of course, you're dealing with a bunch of dumb shit.
It's because the guy makes a lot of money.
No, you're quitting cheating to dumb shit.
Sleeping around is not dumb shit.
Sleeping around is absolutely dumb shit.
And that makes you disloyal as fuck.
No, to any reasonable human being.
No, loyalty for men is different for loyalty than women.
Women give up their loyalty with their body.
It's not the same thing.
Men are not loyal with their body.
Why do you think that I could fuck a girl with onion breath?
Why do you think I could fuck a girl who thinks Africa's a country?
Because you have lower standards for sex.
Yeah, lower standards because men don't think, like, my body's precious.
We don't think in that terms.
Women, they know what they offer is their body.
So their loyalty is completely different.
You can't equate that.
Well, you made a statement saying earlier that if you're high value, you could kind of get away with things.
And yes, they tolerate more from you if you're high value.
However, there's still a point where they say, you know what?
All right, it's enough for me.
So there's a point where it ends.
All you do is you buy yourself maybe one or two more mistakes versus a regular guy who would only have one mistake.
If you got some money, you got some status, you show up, your shoes don't match, your outfit don't match, alright, I'll let that one slide because you got some clout.
But your regular nigger show up, your socks don't match, whoa, fuck that!
You know what I mean?
I think we've all seen the YouTube clips and compilations, I bet you've even laughed at them on this show, where some super fucking shredded 6'2 Giga Chat dude is walking outside asking girls creepy fucking questions, but they deal with it because the guy's really fucking hot.
Like, I agree that there's gonna be a higher bar for women to fuck men than there is for men to fuck women for a variety of reasons, but I feel like you guys presented as so binary sometimes, like, a guy will fuck anything that fucking moves, which might be true, versus like, women will only fuck people they're ready to be soulmates with.
That's not fucking true.
If you've got a lot of money, if you've got a lot of status, if you've got a guy that's really hot, they can get away with some pretty creepy shit.
There's the whole fucking meme where you've got, like, the guy that leans in and he's like, hey, Stacey, nice ass.
And she's like, oh, thank you.
And then, like, a fat dude says it and she's like, I need to call HR, right?
We all know that this is the reality.
Well, this whole thing I started with, um...
It started with women conflating sexual attraction with relationship attraction.
That's all I'm saying, is that girls will take the attention and the opportunities they get from men, think, I'm the shit, have a higher perceived sense of worth, and then apply that in all the other men they deal with.
I'll give you an example real quick.
I've met girls that are very average, 5, 6, 7, cute, attractive, that have fucked millionaires, celebrities, athletes, etc.
Then, they've had sex with them, maybe hung out with them for a weekend, got flewed out, whatever the fuck it is.
Then they go back into the dating marketplace and think, well, I attracted and I had sex with this caliber of guy.
I deserve this caliber of guy as a boyfriend or a serious counterpart.
And it skews their perception of reality as to where they really stand in the dating marketplace.
Because thanks to the internet, thanks to dating apps, etc., women have access to higher status men that they would otherwise never have access to.
So they go back to the regular dating marketplace, and regular guys are no longer good for them.
Yeah, I know this is settled.
I don't think it happens.
I don't believe it.
That a woman fucks a guy who earns six figures, and then goes back to her job at Applebee's, and she's like, I'm only going to pair up with a six figure.
Yeah.
Because I fucked that guy one time.
I don't think that really...
In places like Miami, rich places like LA, maybe girls think that way.
But in 98% of the United States, I don't think girls do that shit.
Where they fuck some celeb guy one time and they're like, I'm only going to date somebody that's been in a fucking Marvel movie.
I don't think that happens.
That's a reference point.
But it does elevate the standard by which she will compare all other men after the fact because women are very impressionable Creatures, so to speak.
Women are really egotistical.
How many men have made dumb comments about, like, I wish my current girlfriend had as big boobs as the last one, or my last chick did this shit?
You can go backwards sexually.
You can have a bad bitch and still want to have some strange on Wednesday.
Women can rarely go back and regress from a sexual market standpoint once they deal with a certain caliber of a guy.
I don't even think it's true from the data.
There was some poll I saw where it's like, I think it's like 45% of women say that the best sex in their life wasn't even with their husbands.
Yeah.
So they've clearly, they've gone back and they've evaluated other parts of the relationship are worth more than just the sex.
No, no, no.
The point is they're married to the guys that aren't giving them the best sex they've ever had.
They have to settle.
They have to settle.
But they went back.
You just said women couldn't do that.
Don't play a word game now.
You're saying they couldn't settle.
You're saying men could.
Men can step back.
But I think women can step back too.
After their peak and they have no other options, they have to if they want to find a guy.
That's different because they have to.
But they don't want to though.
Sure.
So they can step back.
Once reality hits, but it's not what they actually want.
So they can't step back.
That's all I want to hear.
That's fine.
They can step back.
It might take them a little bit, but they can.
You genuinely think that the girls here want to be with the average man?
I know you've seen the Courtney Ryan videos.
And don't equate this like, oh, Miami girls are different.
They step back out of necessity.
They're from all different places.
You're saying that it's just Miami.
But how much do you really think that they want to settle down with the average guy?
We can do it right now.
That's a dumb question because nobody wants average.
Like even an average guy, given like the opportunity, wouldn't want the average woman.
Everybody wants above average.
But I think there are a lot of, if you go talk to normal fucking people, I've said like the world of YouTube and shit, there are lots of average men with average women.
Most people date and marry within their class, within their education, within their race, within their geographic region.
That happens to like 95% of people around the fucking world.
Why are the marriage rates declining so much?
Marriage rates are declining for a whole bunch of reasons that don't have to do with the one-dimensional analysis of a woman fucked a celebrity one time on Instagram and now she won't go back to another guy.
It's not just the celebrity thing, but it's all of hypergamy.
That's why there's less marriage.
People don't know how to settle.
Hypergamy has nothing to do with marriage.
You're playing the game again where you're saying one guy fucks a lot of women as soon as one guy dates a lot of women.
Hypergamy doesn't keep women out of the dating market.
It's bigger than just the celebrity thing.
It's Tinder.
It's social media.
People think that they have so many options now because of our phone.
Okay, newsflash, because men don't know this, women have always had a lot of options.
Since the year zero, every single woman has been offered dick by every single guy they talk to.
It doesn't matter.
Since you're 11 years old, you've got guys that are hitting on you constantly.
Hold on.
Men see Tinder today, and they're like, oh my god, a woman can open her phone and find 100 guys to fuck.
Bro, in 1980, a woman can walk outside and find 100 guys to fuck.
It's not new.
No, you're right.
However, their skill.
Before, they had to go outside and find the guys.
Now they could be in their home, on a plane.
And nigga, it's like, for example, in this case, the skill is different.
It's global.
It's not global for 99% of people.
A girl in Kansas City is not getting flown out to Dubai.
Yes, she is, bro!
You guys are wild.
You guys are wild.
I just want to hear, for the record, for you three to answer this, what percentage of college women do you think are being flown around the world to fuck?
Very little.
If I had to argue, off of probability-wise, if I had to argue, maybe like 30, 40, 50?
Holy shit.
That's a high number.
So I can answer this question properly.
Does she live on campus and she's a college student?
Yeah.
Then she's going to go ahead and settle for the top guys on her college campus.
Okay, so geography, class, so the thing I said earlier.
What if she's staying at home?
Yeah, I said that people tend to date and fuck within their region.
But you've got to remember, a typical university is going to have kids from all over the country.
Okay, say it's a state school in Iowa.
Are those girls getting flown to Dubai?
Off-season, they can be.
Okay, 30-40%, is that what you said?
Well, globally speaking, but I'm just saying like, for example, you understand, the actual number is like less than 0.1%, right?
Of girls getting flown out?
Of girls getting flown out to fuck guys from college?
Normal girls.
Very little.
It's very little.
I'm from Vegas and now I'm like, I've never done that.
Have you ever been flown out?
No.
Destiny, I don't think the point here is to establish of girls getting flown out.
It's that the opportunity is there.
And on top of that, if you're going to use college girls, for example, right?
Because I've talked about this with college campuses, etc.
Most of the women gravitate towards the highest status men.
Who are these guys?
The fraternity guys and the sports guys.
For sex, not for dating.
The top guys aren't dating all the women.
They want that guy and they think they can date that guy.
So it's difficult for them to go backwards when they have an influx of options.
Here's the thing.
Wait, what's...
Go ahead.
Finish up.
Here's the thing.
So, I get what you're saying, that, you know, girls have been getting hit on since the 80s and everything else like that.
The difference is scale, right?
So, if a girl has a basic internet profile, right, and she's somewhat attractive and has some Instagram or maybe even a Tinder or a Bumble, etc., she is going to have...
Hundreds, if not thousands of options, whereas 20, 30 years ago, before the advent of social media and the internet, she would have had to go outside to get that same level.
She would have had to put herself together, go to a nightclub, put herself in a social situation, etc.
But nowadays, she could sit at home, put some pictures up, and get the same level of attention, if not 10 times more, from men all over the country, all over the world.
Now, am I saying that every girl is going to bite on it and actually get flewed out by some blue star, blue check rapper?
No.
No, but that goes a lot to her psyche as to, okay, I'm getting hit up by this caliber of man.
I probably deserve this caliber of man to some degree.
This is why most women nowadays don't want to date average guys.
The standards have been raised, and you know that.
The standards have been raised, but for a Totally different.
Here's the other part of it.
So they're getting attention on the internet.
Now here's the second part of it.
I'm writing a whole book about this shit.
Feminism.
Women make their own money now.
Yes, that's the reason.
Not the social media.
It's a two-pronged thing.
It's a multivariate situation.
But feminism is also a large component.
Because with feminism, women make their own money.
So they no longer have to saddle themselves with a loser that could provide because they could provide it themselves.
So if I can make my own money...
And I want men as a choice, not necessarily a necessity like 50 years ago.
I'm going to pick the best I can absolutely get and not settle for less, which is why a lot of women feel as though I make 100 grand per year.
I'm attractive.
I get attention.
I want a top tier caliber guy.
This is where a lot of women stand.
So firstly, the average decently hot chick on a college campus does not have guys from all over the world in their DMs.
That's an exceptional person.
That's not the average person.
I'm in their DMs.
You guys are only seeing the people that are reaching out to the shows.
I'm in their DMs.
Let me see.
Maybe Sneeko is perusing Florida State University girls on Instagram.
The average pretty hot girls on Instagram are not like...
I feel like you guys think that 25% of girls wake up in the morning, take some pictures of their feet for OnlyFans, make $500 doing that.
They get on Tinder, they get a free steak dinner, they go to class, they plan their Friday, Saturday around which guy is going to fly around.
And that's like a quarter of girls on college campus.
That's not how it's going.
And then to what you were saying about how like, oh, well girls are, you know, the one...
The ones that aren't international, they're just fucking the top guys on their college campuses.
What's the difference between that now and over the past 100 years?
There have always been top men in every area of life.
You're never in an area in life where it's just one guy and one girl and you're isolated from everybody else.
You're always in jobs where there are bosses and managers and CEOs.
You're always in colleges or schools where there are top performing students or athletes.
You're always in communities where there are the leaders of the community.
This has always been the history What I'm saying is that it's opened up and it used to be a dating marketplace where it was just localized.
Now it's globalized.
And I'm not saying they're actually going out and flying with these guys, but they have the option to do it.
And that does a lot for a person's psyche when they know this is the caliber of guy that's reaching out to me.
You know, I'm gonna put that in my back pocket and use that validation to make myself feel a certain way.
And this is why girls, again, in the book, I talk about this explicitly.
Women on Tinder and Bubble, they spend several hours on the site.
However, most girls never either don't swipe right or they never actually go on a date, but they spend a ridiculous amount of time on Tinder.
Why?
Well, it's because attention validation helps boost their ego.
A lot of girls I've seen create a Tinder account after getting broken up with just so they can feel better.
Yeah, I'm sure some people do it.
Some guys do it too.
The problem is that we talk about it.
A lot of men do that too.
The problem is so overstated.
The problem is so overstated.
And then you feed these people these narratives.
Yeah, people have this idea that you're just fucked in the dating world.
You can't compete.
Those go on Tinder to get attention.
No.
Big difference.
It's the same thing.
The guy goes on Tinder with the express intent of meeting the girl and having sex with the girl.
The girl goes on Tinder for the express intent of talking to that guy and never reciprocating physically.
Do you not know how many thirsty...
Bitches out there, like, a lot of girls go on there just to follow.
Women swipe right on Tinder 4.5% of the time.
Tell me that's not them attention worrying, bro.
Look at a guy go on Tinder.
That's what it looks like.
Not the same for girls.
And they swipe right on 4.5% and the flake rate of that 4.5% is somewhere between 53% to 70% women flaking.
Unless she does go on a date, she might get turned off.
So nothing might happen.
Girls universally use dating apps to funnel people to only fans or to get attention.
Hold on, are you on Tinder?
I am not on Tinder, but I know a lot of girls that are and they literally just go to fuck.
It's not to have any emotional connection or to get any...
It's literally to fuck.
Yes.
How many girls do you know that use Tinder to fuck, as you would say?
More than ten.
Yeah.
Of your friends?
Okay, wait, hold on.
Dude, I feel like you guys have no fucking real-world experience.
Okay, I'm gonna be honest, okay?
I'm not the most- Yeah, I do.
Apparently the only one here that does.
And now you're real-world, that guy, gaming all day, okay?
I'm ten years older than you, okay?
You've got like six years in the adult world.
Barely.
Because you've been YouTubing your entire life.
You haven't even lived a real life yet, okay?
They're the same age as you.
You game all day, but you have more life experience?
That's great.
That's great.
So, if you go to California as a normal guy, without putting my fucking socials or anything on Tinder, it's a hard game.
You're swiping a lot and you're doing a lot of conversations, but I was fucking girls on Tinder in California.
And I'm not like a fucking ripped nigga, Chad.
What year?
How long ago?
I lived in California.
I lived in Glendale four years ago, Culver City three years ago, Huntington Beach two years ago.
When were you killing it on Tinder?
I'm not killing it, but I could probably find one to two girls a month.
What year was this?
What the fuck?
What?
What year was this?
Like, in the past, like, two, three, four years.
Two, three, four years ago.
You can do it as a guy.
No, no, no.
But, bro, half you guys on Tinder, you've got random pictures of fucking mountains.
You've got blurry fucking selfies.
You've got like a picture of you in the dark corner of the room where you look like a fucking sociopath.
And the guys will come out.
Hold on.
These perfect guys will come out.
These like 5'11 dudes that look perfectly fine.
They'll be like, oh, I'm not 6'2".
Like, oh, I can't fucking get any girls.
They're hypergamous.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's like, no, motherfucker.
You just either act weird.
Your pictures fucking suck.
Or you're not putting any effort in.
You get shot down by two girls on Tinder.
And you spend the rest of your life browsing like Red Pill videos talking about like all women aren't shit or whatever.
Like that's what happens.
That's your own explanation of one to two a month.
Maybe it says a lot.
Guys are struggling, bro.
Especially on Tinder.
Bro.
Okay.
Parents are in college?
You think the average guy is like, if they could fuck one or two different girls a month, they wouldn't be happy?
No, no.
If they can.
You're saying that you did.
That doesn't mean that they can.
No, okay.
I'm not trying to be too self-deprecating, okay?
I'm also famous, Destiny.
No, no.
That was without social, because I didn't want to find people that found me through my fucking stream.
But the girls did research, bro.
I promise you.
How are you going to fucking find me through research?
Yo, a girl can look at your Tinder profile, put your face into this app, which will go ahead and link you to social media.
I can obviously tell when a girl knows me or don't.
There were a couple that I would meet up and they would say some shit.
You could say no cap all you want, but there are a ton of people that fucking use Tinder.
There are a ton of people that hook up.
I wasn't that famous there four years ago.
I've blown up a lot over the past year or two.
Okay, while we can do the alternative, which is...
We can't compare you to a regular guy.
Hold on.
A normal guy fucking on Tinder.
That's unbelievable.
But 40% of women on an Iowa, Kansas City fucking college campus are getting flown out to fucking Dubai to fuck.
That's the world we're in right now, just to be clear.
That's what we're saying is normal.
By the way, I meant all schools around America.
I didn't just say Iowa, okay?
Even though all schools are in the world, the numbers are less than 1%.
And they may have options.
It doesn't mean that they're actually going to do it.
I'm just saying the possibility is there that they can actually do it.
They've been offered.
They've been offered.
I don't want to dominate the topic.
No, no, no.
It's fine.
Like I said, the Tinder and the dating app stats are...
Bro, they're universal.
And I grow true.
Part of the reason why guys fail is because their pictures do suck.
There is accountability there.
However...
A woman can take shitty pictures and still kill it on Tinder versus a guy can't.
Kill it with fucking, not with finding relationships though.
You have to keep remembering our goals are different.
Guys are looking for sex.
Girls are usually looking for relationships.
So of course, like, girls can kill it on Instagram from the guy's perspective, but not from the woman's perspective.
Remember, they're still getting the opportunity to get the relationship.
The man never gets an opportunity, period.
You know, but it's a totally different set of problems, right?
Guys don't know what it's like trying to curve a girl.
That might be like a fuck girl.
That term doesn't even exist.
Whereas girls might have like 15 different fucking tests to find out if a guy is serious or not.
And not to mention there's the whole safety shit that comes up too.
It's totally different games that we play when it comes to hooking up with people.
But at least they get the opportunity.
That's my point.
You guys have the opportunity.
You're just going to make the opportunity happen.
Let's ask them how they fill up with this whole dating topic of dating apps and Instagram.
Wait, let me say one final thing, and then you can go around, okay?
You said something earlier that I 100% agree with, and I wish people would focus on it more.
I think for the majority of human history, men needed to bring one thing to the table to get almost any girl they wanted, and that's an income.
That was the only fucking work that we had to put in.
Whereas women, from birth, are trained to do a lot of things around the household.
Usually, especially in more traditional countries, like women are cleaning the house, they're taking care of siblings, they're doing all this shit, you know, they're being trained by mom, and the boys are treated as little princes.
They have to do good in school, and they gotta do that shit.
For the most part, like men just need to get a job and then you get a woman because women can't work.
But now that women have finally gotten to work, right?
Women have also been putting in all this work like emotionally to figure out how to manage their friends and do all that bullshit or whatever stuff that men traditionally care about because we didn't have to.
But now we're in the world where we go out to the dating market.
We're like, hey, I've got an income.
And a woman's like, okay, and what else?
And you're like, fuck, my dad didn't train me for this.
Nobody in society is talking about this because men traditionally haven't had to compete in other areas.
So I think the important thing is to tell men, hey, don't be a schizoid, autistic fucking loser.
Learn how to, like, take care of your house.
You should be able to do dishes and do the laundry.
Of course.
Have more than, like, one fucking piece of furniture in your whole apartment.
Okay?
Don't piss all over the fucking toilet seat when you're at somebody's house.
If you bring a girl over, have a trash can in the fucking bag.
Like, basic human things.
Isn't this really obvious stuff?
It's not obvious.
It's not obvious.
No, if you're going to become a high earner, you need to be clean, you need to have a nice place.
No, you don't have to do any of that shit.
The average high earner now is a fucking schizoid work-from-home tech bro in San Francisco that probably wears the same outfit for a week straight because he doesn't have to go outside ever.
What do you mean?
Well, to be fair, he is right.
Most guys don't know how to be cleanly.
They don't know how to do stuff around the house.
However...
High earners?
No, average people.
I'm saying getting money in the process of becoming successful, all that stuff gets better too.
You think the average crypto finance bro is put together really well?
Or the average software developer?
You talk a lot about the real world and real world experience.
Is the average high earner a crypto bro?
The average high earner right now is probably doing fucking work from home shit after COVID, I think.
There's a lot of work from home office work.
I don't know if that's the average, but I know it's probably disproportionately overrepresented there.
Ladies!
People like programmers and shit?
Okay, go ahead.
And your dating experience, right?
Let's just go from part one.
Dating apps and Instagram, right?
What's your experience?
Is it true that guys are, like, getting laid all the time?
What do you think?
And then, for example, do you hit up every guy that's just smash only, or is it for something else?
Nah, like, definitely not.
I don't know.
I feel like it's equal.
Like, women and men both go on dating apps, and it's either if they want to fuck or they want a relationship.
It's...
I don't...
What do you go on it for?
I don't go on it, first of all.
I don't.
What about Instagram?
Instagram?
I just have an Instagram because I post pictures.
Of course.
Who do you respond to?
Who do you respond to?
Do you ever take them serious?
If you look at my DMs, there's a bunch of unread messages.
To be honest, I'm really working on myself right now.
Right now, nah.
Maybe in a year or whenever I'm ready, then I'll look at those videos.
Stop the nip.
She might need you to rephrase the question.
So, dating apps.
Do you use them?
Why do you think girls use them and guys use them?
And then, for example, do you go on dating apps or no?
No, I don't go on dating apps.
I tried it once.
To be honest, it's bullshit.
I don't use it.
I wouldn't prefer anybody to use it.
I feel like men go on there to fuck.
Women go on there to fuck.
The only thing is, if the sex is good, she might want a relationship out of it after that.
But anything else, everybody's just going on there to fuck.
Do you genuinely think a majority of women go on dating apps to fuck?
Realistically speaking?
Realistically speaking, yeah.
Because at the end of the day, the guy has to be attractive enough for me to want to fuck him.
So at the end of the day, I'm only going, mind you, and on the dating apps, I only see pictures of these people.
So physically, I'm attracted to you enough to fuck you to want to be in your face for a long time.
But mentally, I don't know what the fuck you have going on in your brain.
What if I told you women never meet up with the guys they match up with most of the time?
Most of them.
But the ones they do, they do want to fuck.
At the end of the day, it's more selective than men, but they do want to fuck the guys.
They're on there.
It's superficial.
But she's saying a majority of women are on online dating apps to have sex.
I would argue a majority of women are on dating apps to get attention.
Well, they're just as selective on the dating apps.
And the numbers reflect that.
Yeah, I mean, the numbers reflect to the real-life experiences, too.
Like, most guys that come up to girls in public, they get rejected.
The same thing applies to dating apps.
Like, they're gonna fuck the guys that they meet up with.
But ultimately, that is...
They're just more selective.
I'll say dating apps are less forgiving.
And the reason why is because dating apps are strictly looks.
A girl's gonna left-swipe...
Like, if you're ugly and you go up to a girl in person, at least you can make up for it with charisma, status, maybe you are charming, dress well, you smell well.
But on a dating app, it's only your picture.
I think dating apps are mostly riz.
I think it's mostly like the first couple of messages.
And I can make her laugh if I do a pickup, bro.
For you, you can, but average guy can't.
Most of the matches where I don't put any effort, I just go, head?
I'd get blocked or something like that.
Nigga, you're a child!
No, no, I get blocked when I skip all the bullshit.
When I do no riz and I don't play a game, I just go, head?
They're like, fuck you!
But then I actually played...
In public, people know who you are.
Come on, man.
I don't think they swipe right on you in the first place because you're a handsome guy.
Pause.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Anyhow, you had a point?
I was going to say, I think the dating app matters.
Like, if a girl's on Tinder, she probably knows that the people that are looking more to fuck than if she's on, like, fucking Bumble or some other shit.
It does matter.
Yeah, for sure.
Which is why a lot of girls are on Tinder just to push their only fans into their Instagram.
Or fuck.
But that's the lower majority.
Yeah, I mean, that's rare.
No, I'm not on any dating apps or anything like that.
Instagram.
What about my Instagram?
That's the number one dating app in the world.
Actually, every time, I don't really, like, Do that.
She about a lie.
Here we go.
No, no, no, for real.
Like, honestly, I don't really do the whole online thing.
I would prefer, like, an in-person meeting.
Like, if I meet you in person, like, we click.
You've never been on a date with a guy that hits you up on Instagram?
Never?
Come on, man.
One time.
And that's it.
Eleven times.
Where do you meet guys normally?
That's the question.
In person.
At your job or at like...
No, like, for example, if I'm walking around or like they just happen to like talk to me and...
So you're walking down the street, a guy sees you and he's like, hey, what's up?
And...
I mean, if we click, we click, you know?
Are you dating someone now?
I am not dating.
I'm single.
Where did you meet your last boyfriend at?
But you said it was like a 10-year relationship, right?
Yeah, I was in a...
He ran down on you?
What do you mean?
He came up to you in public, outside?
Actually, I was the one who initiated everything.
Really?
What did you say?
Actually, I was with his friend and I was like, hey, you know him?
And he's like, yeah.
And I was like, well, I think he's going to be the father of my kids.
And I shot my shot.
What did you say?
I messaged him.
Actually, I called his friend and I was like, hey, do you think you could give me the phone number of your friend?
Because I kind of, I need a favor and I kind of want to talk to him.
What a stalker.
Yeah.
Damn.
I mean, when I like something, I like something.
So question, is he the father of your kids?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, at least you got what you wanted.
Yeah, I have two kids.
With that guy?
Yeah.
She plotted, nigga!
I know.
And you were still calling him a loser and abusing him?
I don't...
I never called him a loser.
You said you were being an asshole.
I was a little bit of an asshole, yeah.
You gave him two kids, nigga!
I know.
What else do you want?
Is that an accomplishment?
Is that hard to do?
Okay, so...
You can still be a loser.
This is why I said that I... Well, she did say he had money and he was attractive and stuff.
No, this is why I said that I have fucked up.
As a woman, I can say that I have done my share of shit.
And he's also done his share of shit.
It's like a constant cycle of...
You want him back, don't you?
He's a father for kids, yes.
Honestly, that chapter is done.
Would you do it for your kids, though?
If you had to get back with him, would you do it for your kids?
No.
Nah, nigga.
He's free, man.
Leave him alone.
Exactly.
He is free.
He is really free.
Yo, what the fuck, Chris?
He is really free.
So she had a full plan, action, attack to have his kids.
That's crazy.
Okay, what about you?
Alright, I am not on any dating apps, but I am a firm believer of that dating apps are for fucking.
Straight up.
Do you use dating apps to fuck?
No!
I love how girls say it's for fucking, but none of them use it to fuck.
But not me!
Have you ever been on one?
No.
Okay, so what about Instagram?
I've used Tinder for promoting my OnlyFans, but then I got banned off of it.
Okay, okay.
What about you?
Not on any dating apps.
And yeah, honestly, I think even with Instagram and stuff, I think it's not really exactly like it's not too much of a dating spectrum on social media.
I think most guys that are in my DMs, I think most guys that are in my DMs, I mostly ignore.
I'm not interested.
Most of the things they say gives me the ick.
You said most.
So what makes you respond to some of them at least?
Then I'm gonna change my answer.
I would say about 100% of the time, I'm not gonna DM back.
Unless you're my friend and I know you in person and you're like, hey, you know, and I already know you, I'll probably respond.
But if you're a random, I'm not gonna respond to you.
So you're telling me, blue check, handsome guy, good lifestyle, Keep going.
But here's the thing is, even back to the last conversation, there's not a lot of blue checks sliding in girls DMs, average girls DMs.
It's usually creepy, dude, sending you dick pics.
I'm just saying, like stalking you, asking you for clips of your hair.
We're saying if they do, the response?
Keep it a thousand.
Don't care.
I mean, of course, if there's a blue check, yeah, of course.
I'm not going to disagree with that.
Yeah, you're going to respond.
You're going to be interested in what you have.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't disagree with that.
If there's, like, some famous people showing up in somebody's DMs, they're going to respond.
I'm just saying it happens way less, you guys.
It really does.
I just have a question, though.
But it's the option that changes their whole standards.
That's why all girls...
We didn't just say changes the whole standards, but it said she would respond.
No, she would respond, but her getting that message from a blue check changes her standard of the guy she's going to settle down with.
In real life, too?
Yes.
So right now, if there's like a B-list Hollywood celeb listening right now, he could fuck all of these women's lives up by just sending them all the DMs saying, hey, what's up?
Not fuck the lives up, but change their standards.
I don't think so.
We gotta look at the totality of the circumstances, bro.
So...
They make their own money.
Feminism is here.
I deserve the best.
I'm special.
I get DMs from all these weird, weird, creepo guys.
Oh, look, they all want me.
Then I get a message from a B-list celeb.
Then I get a message from an athlete.
Then I get a message from here.
I go to the gym.
Guys are staring at me.
Then I'm at the sandwich shop.
This guy tries to awkwardly give me attention.
Oh, another guy gave me a gift.
Another guy walked in and gave me flowers just for me being here.
All of this does a lot to a woman's psyche as to what she thinks she deserves and where she stands from a sexual marketplace standpoint.
Like, this all working in tandem changes a girl's mindset of where she stands.
I agree, but you did the same thing again.
You always do.
You're talking about the sexual marketplace.
If you want to talk about getting laid, I agree with you.
It's the same marketplace as well.
But, like, a normal dude that is, like, really charismatic, that can make a girl laugh, make somebody feel special, listen, pay attention to conversations, all this shit, you can absolutely pull it.
Even if she's talked to and fucked, Five different fucking celebrities.
That guy now has to work harder to get that girl because she thinks, I'm here.
I've attracted this caliber of guy.
I need you to entertain me, motherfucker.
Guys have always had to work harder.
Every fucking Hollywood movie, the guy has to try hard to get the girl.
It has always been like that throughout all of human history.
All of it.
Hollywood love stories are stalking a girl by a tree.
Statistically speaking, Destiny, I hate to say it, but male virginity has gone up significantly.
Men not be and be being sexless has gone up significantly.
So that's nothing to do with sex in relationships.
That's the same.
It's not the same thing.
They're totally different.
Destiny.
Let's say, right.
The guy pulls it off and that's his girl.
Can you maintain her?
Let's say the guy, the average guy, charismatic, charming, whatever, gets the girl.
Can you maintain her for a long period of time after having an experience with a top guy?
Can you maintain her?
100%.
Well, the stats don't show that.
The marriage stats show that, hey, they get married as an average couple, but over time, oh, you know what?
Brad was really lit.
He had a great lifestyle.
I'm tired of Jerry.
And then they leave.
It happens all the time.
She had two kids with her dream guy.
She left him.
Not even a real reason.
We can't comment completely on her situation, but even that, the stats aren't true.
I've seen those exact numbers that you're talking about, and what you guys say is, this is the talking point you say, the women that stay in relationships the longest are the ones that have zero partners, and then it goes up for divorce rates for one partner.
And that's true.
But if you keep watching that graph, it goes up for two, but then it drops after three, four, five, six, seven, and then it takes it until they get to eight partners until the divorce rate.
Six is the one that goes up significantly.
Yeah.
But I think eight is when it gets past the two mark, is when it gets past that point.
So it's not just that having more keeps it...
Having more partners makes you more likely to break up because you've had more partners.
It could be the case that if you've only had like zero or one or two partners, maybe you just got really fucking lucky and you found like the one early on.
You found the perfect fucking girl or guy when you're 18 or 19.
And now you're contributing to that stat of like, oh, I've only had like zero or one partner and I'm together forever.
Or it could be people that are like, I'm fucking super religious.
I've had one partner.
I don't really want to fuck more because I'm a horrible fucking slut, whatever, antichrist.
And they end up staying in relationships longer than they don't like.
There's a lot of other things that go into that as well.
But you guys never explain why is it that a woman who's had three sexual partners is more likely to stand in a relationship than one with two.
Or one with four is more likely than one with three.
Or one with five is more likely...
You don't explain that because you only talk about that graph from zero to two.
I've seen the family...
It's more along the lines of zero to six.
Zero to six.
Well, when you graph it like that, but that's a disingenuous statistical analysis.
Because a graph that goes like this can't have a curve, an R-squared drawn like this.
It's not fair.
Because it becomes substantial and becomes significant after 6.
That's why I refer to it that way.
Because, yes, you're right.
It does deviate to a degree, but it's not that significant.
It's after 6 that it starts to drop off precipice.
Sure, but I think that...
A more honest analysis, when you're looking at data like that, is people with zero to two partners are probably people that are incredibly selective, maybe people with really traditional religious backgrounds, and therefore probably are more likely to stay in relationships in the long term, even if they're not happy.
When you get to the six, seven plus, these are probably people that like to fuck around a lot, that don't really care about the sanctity of marriage or any of that shit, so they're probably more likely to divorce if they get married.
I think that that's a more fair analysis than saying, once a girl's had six dick I think that's more fair.
Here's the thing.
Everything comes back to the totality of the circumstance.
So like what I said before, as far as like girls wanting, having a lot of options or whatever, and then not settling or wanting a guy that's way above them, it comes back to, that's why I said, not only dating apps, not only Instagram, not only social media, but also feminism coming in and girls making their own money has played a significant role in that.
So I look at it from a holistic standpoint.
Like, yes, what you're saying before is like, one or two, yes, more than likely she's going to be religious.
I agree, because when a girl is more religious, she has these certain buffers in place to keep her from being super promiscuous because these are things that used to be in place before.
But what I am saying is that for most women, those things aren't necessarily a buffer anymore.
Shame, that's pretty much eliminated.
A girl can have sex with as many people as she wants.
Hell, we got rap songs nowadays that glorify it, and a lot of people just aren't religious.
So it's like, whatever.
Okay, you had a point.
I'm sorry, it took so long to get back to you.
Do you remember the point?
Yeah, because so we're talking about blue checks and oh, it's easier for a girl to fuck a guy with a blue check and this and this and that.
Half of these people out here that are blue check verified are just bullshitted blue check verified.
You have a kid and like a 20 year old, what is it, prospect athlete that has a fucking blue check.
What makes you think I'm going to respond back to his DM because he's a blue check?
Like that doesn't make any sense.
Well, it's a reference point.
We're just saying the guy that actually has a blue check for the followers.
I want to make this very clear to all the ladies at the table.
I am not saying that you are going to have sex with the guy with the blue check.
I'm not saying you're going to have sex with the millionaire.
I'm not saying you're going to have sex with a football star at your college campus.
What I am saying is that These caliber of men will contact you.
They will give you attention.
And since you get contact and attention and potentially even resources from that caliber guy, and then you also got the simp that's walking up to you, giving you flowers for nothing more than you exist.
Then you got a couple other guys on dating apps saying, I'll take you, I'll fly you here, whatever.
I'm not saying you actually enact on all the opportunities given to you.
What I am saying is that those opportunities change how you view the world and more importantly, how you view men.
Oh, these guys are suckers.
Now, some girls say, fuck that.
I'm not taking that opportunity.
I don't care.
I want a guy.
It is what it is.
Some girls are, you know, are able to distinguish this guy's a loser.
I want a guy that's actually good for me.
But a lot of girls don't.
A lot of girls use that to their advantage and they take that male thirst and use it to their advantage.
Only fans, being a stripper, maybe getting guys to pay them for sex, etc.
All I am saying...
Right?
Is that we live in a simp economy and a good amount of women are taking advantage of it.
And not only that, in taking advantage of it, they tend to have a higher perceived status of where they stand.
Because they got a lot of guys that are hitting them up, which quite frankly, you go back 57 years ago, a girl would be lucky to get two guys that come up to her that are worthy.
Now, she might get 200 guys that come up to her that are worthy.
Do you think, here's a question.
So, the broad argument is that men get into women's DMs and it fucks her expectations up for how they view men around them.
It's not just Instagram, though.
Sure.
Instagram, dating apps, whatever the fuck.
Everything.
Do you think that women have dealt with a similar pressure for a long time because of beauty standards set in media and because of pornographic standards?
Do you think that they feel standards to compete against those women on TV or...
There's been that one even before porn and before TV. You know what?
That's a fantastic point you brought up, Destiny.
They have, but guess what?
It's self-imposed.
100% self-imposed.
No guy ever goes up to a girl and says, your nails don't match, bitch.
Ugly.
Actually, a lot of guys do.
A lot of guys notice that shit more than girls.
But not even that.
Wouldn't your standards change if you were getting a DM from a girl with a blue check?
If you fuck Megan Fox, aren't you going to raise your standards a little bit?
You know what's funny?
I did an experiment.
Let's go into a dream world.
I'm glad you said that.
I'm really glad you said that.
I didn't experiment.
I was doing a test for a dating app that I was releasing with a friend.
To do the test, I was comparing using Tinder with a boost versus not using a boost and using a new account versus an older account.
As you guys know, about 80% of Tinder users are men.
It's very difficult for guys to get matches, etc.
So you have to play around with the algorithm and find the best way to do it.
So I was doing testing.
One phone was a brand new account.
The other phone, I ran a boost.
Turned all my social media off, I had multiple Tinder accounts, and I swiped right and see what happened, right?
24 hours, turn the phones on, see a whole bunch of notifications.
At that point, I was like, oh, this is lit.
This is awesome.
I'm the fucking man.
And I had to kind of like fucking snap out of it.
Like, it hit me right there.
Yo, imagine if I got this attention every day, all the time, for nothing more than the fact that I exist.
I had to almost snap myself out of reality from all that validation from the opposite gender.
Hot...
Like literally like a hundred matches, different girls, hot.
I was like, whoa, this is fucking awesome.
Now for guys, they rarely experience that.
They get that dopamine hit.
So when it hit me, it was a foreign feeling.
I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
But then I realized if I got this all the time, I would be a piece of shit.
I would not have a need to self-improve.
I would not feel like I need to understand other gender.
I would not feel like I have to be attractive for the other gender.
I would think I'm on a date with you.
Impress me, bitch.
Dance.
Turn to Tory Lanez, this motherfucker.
Dance, bitch.
No.
Oh, God.
Too soon.
Yeah, no.
Well, we know he didn't do a good job of finding him guilty.
Free Tory.
But all jokes aside, I would not do anything to impress the opposite gender.
Kind of like girls nowadays.
They show up on a date.
They're not interesting.
Astrology.
They ask dumb shit.
They don't really bring a lot of critical thinking.
No offense to you, ladies.
I'm not saying y'all, but I'm saying women in general.
They don't feel the need to self-improve.
It's like, you impressed me, asshole.
Yeah.
So all I'm saying is that a lot of girls fall into the category of how I felt for that 10 minutes, where I felt like I was on top of the world.
Now imagine getting that a year, two years, three years, since the time you're 15 years old and you're going through puberty and guys are hitting you up and it's compounding with the internet.
It would make you have a certain type of mindset where people need to improve, people need to impress me.
That's all I'm saying, is that a lot of girls...
Have this compounding effect of getting a lot of attention, feeling like they're special, etc.
And then they come on this podcast and I tell them, alright, well you want a high status guy that has money, whatever, you gotta share them with other girls.
Oh my god, what do you mean?
I'm special!
I deserve a multi-millionaire that's gonna be faithful to only me.
That's not how the world works.
So that's all I'm saying.
You know something?
Megan Fox.
No, I agree with that.
But I also think it's just, you know, it brings up the egoism.
But I also think it goes back to what we've been talking about this whole time, that the average girl does not get this much attention.
Like, I think Miami girls do.
I think LA girls do.
Wait, wait.
I don't know.
Can we pause on that?
I don't think so.
But born and fucking raised in Miami, half of you people literally from the table aren't from here.
Thank you!
Being a Miami girl, like literally being born and raised in this shit for 22 years.
Homestead, Miami, I drive up 30 minutes, it's the same shit.
It's the same shit.
Careful.
My parents live in Homestead.
I spend a lot of time in Homestead, okay?
There's fucking horses walking around.
That's not the same thing as Pricklin.
Be fucking for real.
There's not horses walking around except in the Redlands.
My parents live in Homestead and their neighbors have horses.
In the Redlands.
I don't know where the fuck...
I just saw the address is Homestead on the 30...
whatever fucking Southwest Street.
It's in Homestead and there are horses.
Okay, great.
I'm just saying it's different than, like, Miami.
Even when you say Miami, it's a big fucking city, right?
If you go really far west, that's a totally different life.
Or if you go to, like, a fucking Hialeah, that's a totally different world.
Okay, but be fucking for real.
Most of the shit you do to come up in, most of the shit, even to work, there's not a job in Homestead.
I'm working in Miami.
So let's be fucking for real.
Half of the bitches that are in Miami are not from Miami.
A typical bitch from Miami does not have a million blue check niggas walking in her shit.
You know why?
Because you bitches are doing it for us.
Well, that's my point, though.
The average girl does not have that many blue children.
It doesn't matter where you're from.
Absolutely.
It doesn't even matter what city you're from.
No, but it does, though, because you brought up Miami.
So the average girl from Miami is always going to higher it up, right?
No, it's not.
It's a bigger population.
A woman of average looks, regardless of where she's located geographically, gets way more attention than the average man gets anywhere else.
That's true, but this has always been true.
Yes, but now it's scaled to another level.
It's multiplied to another degree, bro.
Here's another thing I'll float out there.
I think that as men, okay, and I can speak from experience now because I have fucking blue hair, okay?
Never in my life.
I get random problems with people on my looks.
I've never had that happen before.
Everybody's like, oh my god, nice hair.
It's like, oh, that's interesting.
Cool.
That's a W. So, as a guy, when we hear comments like that, I think it feels really good for us because it's not as expected.
Yeah, men rarely get compliments.
For women that are fucking past the age of 13, 14, random guys shouting at you from a truck or catcalling you or saying, I don't think it's blowing your ego up as much as...
Yeah, because it's at some point or even it comes off as creepy or annoying.
I agree.
Very creepy.
Yeah, and I'm not saying that they don't like, you know, cancel a lot of guys that talk to them.
But what I am saying is that when you get attention for that long, you don't value it anymore.
When you don't value it anymore, but it still props you up in a certain light where I think I'm the show.
So as a guy, you have to try harder than just like saying a girl's hair or dress looks nice to actually get her to pay attention to you.
Well, she has to like you for that to make sense, because anybody can say that to her, but if she likes you, okay, I heard it from the guy I actually like.
Sure.
And the other thing, too, from me doing my research, I'll just be bluntly honest about this.
Most women just don't like most guys at all.
They just don't like men that much.
That's true, but the question is why?
That's I think that guys are really fucking lazy in general when it comes to appealing other sex, right?
But I like saying that guys are lazy because that's something you can work on.
There's stuff that you can do there.
But I think when we overfixate on the hypergamy and the evo psych and all the other crazy shit, it feels kind of fucking hopeless.
Like, oh, women are naturally drawn towards all the six-figure earners.
Women only want the 6'6 NBA chads.
Like, fuck me.
But it's true, Destiny.
I don't think that's true.
It is true.
I don't think that's true.
And that part, you cannot control because that part is external.
We're just saying...
Women will want NBA players the way that men want to fuck Megan Fox.
But they'll settle for like, oh, there's like a cool chick.
But there's a difference.
The male virginity rate has tripled.
Yeah, but why?
But is it why?
Because of dating apps?
No, no, no, no.
Well, that's a component.
But again, it's a multivariate analysis.
But the reason why it's tripled is because women are not willing to put up with the same caliber of man that they did 50 years ago.
Because you need to do more than just earn a paycheck.
Exactly.
So build yourself.
I agree.
I agree with you.
I agree.
But that's your point as well.
Megan Fox ain't fucking none of us.
But guess what?
That girl, that's an average girl, can be an NBA player tomorrow.
But we can't.
So it's totally different.
I don't know about that.
She can get a DM tomorrow and get flown out.
You never even know.
Actually...
I don't.
I don't know.
I got friends in the industry.
I've never gotten a DM like that.
Of course you wouldn't.
Yeah, of course I wouldn't.
In the industry, right?
That DM grows every single day to fly out.
Now, mind you, is it college girls?
Some are, but some aren't.
I'm just saying they have an option to.
As guys, I DM Megan Fox.
Yo, what's up?
Come to Miami.
Not even seen.
So it's like, bro, it's totally different.
That's all I'm saying.
Megan Fox, hit me up.
You ain't got no chance, bro.
No chance!
I don't know his name.
First thing's first, big homie.
No more crazy women calling our name on Instagram live.
Yeah, but that was wild.
I know you're basically a god of the D game, but damn it, man.
Make sure the chicks are actually mentally stable before we get to the BBC. Okay.
Al Fresh's BBC. Question for the ladies.
Have you ever had a dream that you...
Have you ever had dreams that you could do...
That was you earlier, by the way.
Andrew says, question.
As men are problem solvers, if in the future we could make a woman that could satisfy our needs, what would the bimbos bring to value a man's life?
Trying to be better every day.
Thanks.
Thank you very much, man.
Some of them.
Jose says, question for destiny.
Does the RP ideology unknowingly perpetuate Perpetuate prosperity and anti-traditional values in a woman?
Or do you believe that women's dating choices dictate these behaviors?
FNR Crow believes the latter.
What do you believe?
I mean, there's a really complicated feedback loop between what we do in society and what our entertainment tells us to do, right?
Where society influences the entertainment, entertainment influences society.
I think that in general, I don't like it when men advocate for settling down with a woman with a low body count while telling you to fuck as much as you can through your early and mid-twenties.
I think that's hypocritical.
I don't think you can create a world that is actively serving like a counter purpose to what you're looking for later in life because you're not training for those relationships and because you're, I guess, destroying all of the women that you fuck your way through as not being good enough for the men in your audience that you would say should be looking for low body count women in the future.
But can you also agree that if I have no experience and I meet a woman, how would I ever be able to be a good fit for her?
I have no experience.
That's true for everybody.
It depends, again, on what your standards are, I guess.
Women don't want to fuck a virgin male.
Yeah.
There are plenty of women that would get off with fucking a guy.
That's a kink for some women.
It just depends on what you're looking for.
Long term, they want a man who knows what he's doing.
It depends on what you mean by he knows what they're doing, though.
You guys on here acting like a Christian woman that's a virgin at 24 wants a guy that's fucked his way through 500 chicks when she's 32.
It doesn't matter.
It absolutely does.
You'd think it does because you've never talked to a woman like that in your life.
You're not going to find a religious woman, a conservative woman at 22 years old, 23 years old that has never fucked a guy before that wants to go and be in a relationship with a fuckboy who's got like a three-digit body count.
In general, that's not going to be the case.
Pastor daughters are the worst.
By the way, ladies in here, Have you ever asked a guy's body count?
Or do you even care?
They don't care.
Yes, I've asked.
How many times?
Like, damn near every guy I've talked to, really, to be honest.
Okay, you might be a little bit different.
Did you break up with him, though, after you found the body count?
No, like, I mean, talked to him, like, before we even started.
But did it disqualify him?
Hell yes.
What was the body count that disqualified him?
What was the number?
52.
You thought, was it too much for you?
Yes.
Why the fuck have you stuck your dick in 52 different pussies?
Because it feels good?
That's fucking disgusting.
Well, then why would a pussy have 52 different dicks in it?
Because it feels good.
Exactly.
There we go.
Thank you.
Because I can't do that.
Do you guys, your body count?
When you meet them?
It's been a while since I've been interested in another man, so it's been a while since I've asked, so no.
Okay.
Do you?
No, to be honest, I feel like it's none of my business.
And if I do ask, I'll probably get all in my head about it.
So I'm just going to avoid all that.
Okay, that's fair.
Do you ask guys?
Oh, what's your white account?
Every time.
Thank you.
But just for fun, like I really wouldn't like...
It doesn't disqualify them.
It doesn't disqualify them at all.
I just kind of want to know about your, you know, experience and...
Women are willfully ignorant.
They like to live in a little bit of delusion.
They don't really fully want to know the truth because they don't want to have that anxiety or that stress.
They'd rather just take you for how you are.
And I think that comes with detail.
Like, I don't want to know the girls, but the number is the number, whatever.
But don't show me pictures of who, you know what I mean?
Men don't live in delusion.
When a guy's asking a hot 26-year-old girl how many guys you've been with, and she's like, uh, I sucked one dick and I fucked one dude.
And he's like, okay.
That's a lie.
Guys don't live in delusion.
Are you being ironic?
What does that mean?
I think everybody deludes themselves to some extent.
How do men delude themselves?
In so many different ways.
Name one.
I just talked to you.
When a girl is hot, a guy will fuck the girl.
A girl has a body count.
Okay, but we know that she's lying when she says her body count.
There's no delusion.
And if you told a girl that your body count was two, she'd probably know you're lying too.
Right, but...
I think the better stance here is that both genders are delusional.
However, women don't really face the consequences of their delusion to the same extent that men do.
When a man is delusional, right, about women and reality, well, oh, I could get a chick even though I'm a fat loser.
Well, guess what?
Reality's gonna smack you in the face.
A girl, however, can be annoying, a bitch, fat, whatever, and some guy will still probably take her seriously.
It super depends on the circumstance.
A guy can be delusional, like, this girl's changed, and then she's, like, an annoying bitch, and you have to break up with her.
And a girl can be delusional, like, I think this guy's changed, and then she fucking, you know, gets her throat cut by some crazy fucking dude.
Oh my god.
You want to go to extremes?
I'm just saying.
Everybody's a night stalker.
Everybody can have Like, they're delusions or whatever.
My point is this.
Women can be more delusional than men and not deal with the same consequences.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Depending on the type of woman, sure.
But it feels like, this is always the issue I have, it feels like you guys want those types of women.
You want women with low responsibilities whose only attractive features are they cook and they're young, so of course they're going to be delusional.
Of course they have no accountability.
You don't give them any accountability.
You treat them like children.
Well, the thing is, is that most women are delusional, though.
Most modern-day women are fairly delusional, if I'm going to be honest.
I don't know, man.
I feel like the things online blowing up for guys, like fucking trade this NFT, this crypto thing, buy this fucking digital monkey and you'll be rich.
I feel like guys fall for a lot of this shit online, too.
I think there's a lot of delusion there.
I mean, that's true, but I'm talking about within the confinements of intersexual dynamics, not get rich.
We narrow the market narrow enough.
I'm sure we can find areas where guys are less delusional than women, sure.
Yeah, but I'm talking about strictly from dealing with the opposite gender.
Men are a little bit more pragmatic and understand, okay, if I don't rise to a certain level, I'm not going to get a girl.
But whereas women are like, I'm going to get a guy no matter what.
I mean, women walk around and say, take me how I am, versus guys kind of understand if I'm a fat, pot-smoking loser, no girl's going to have sex with me more than likely.
And that is shown through stats and them not getting laid, them not getting dates.
Men deal with the consequences of their poor decisions.
Women don't when it comes to intersection dynamics.
That's what I mean.
Okay, we're going.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Okay.
What about you?
I like having Disney on the panel.
We just disagree.
We obviously disagree, but yeah.
Do you guys have your body count?
Do you want to ask your body count?
A couple of times I did with my first couple of relationships.
Closer to the mic.
Oh, sorry.
My first couple of relationships I did ask the body count and they would not answer.
Really?
I assumed it was like 30 something.
I don't know where that number came from.
Is 30 too high for you?
It ended up being, like, over 100.
Like, because I was a seven-year relationship, and I found out in the end.
And so it's like, yeah.
Let me ask another question to ladies.
If a guy had a body count that was, let's say, too high for you, would you stop dating him?
No.
I'll go around.
Yeah, for you.
Would you stop dating him if his number was too high for you?
I wouldn't say I would stop dating him, but I would be concerned that his body count is so high, is he going to cheat on me?
Okay, but you wouldn't leave him.
What about you?
Not really.
No.
No?
No.
Would you leave a man for having a high body count?
You said before you asked, but it doesn't matter.
What about you?
Would you leave a guy for having a high body count?
Okay.
No, I think it's fun and experience.
Okay.
What about you?
Yes.
You would leave a man for having a high body count.
Yes.
Can you tell me why?
Because I just...
I wouldn't want to have my hole be inserted by something that's been...
Say that again, you would what?
I wouldn't want my hole to be inserted by something that's been inserted.
Okay, let's assume you had a clean STD test, no diseases.
Would you still care?
Yeah.
You still would?
Okay.
Of course I would.
Why?
Because I'm crazy and...
Okay, there you go.
Delusion.
Like, no guy's gonna be like, because I'm crazy.
You gotta be in reality, Destiny.
Imagine if I went around here.
I'm not in reality.
I'm crazy!
Okay, hold on.
You're comparing four full-time content creators to random people.
Of course you're gonna be more well-spoken.
It's a fucking job.
No fucking shit.
It's about what you believe in, Destiny.
The belief is I'm crazy.
Listen, it's because I would want that person to only desire me in their life.
And I know that's not a reality.
That's not in...
Delusion, yeah.
I guess I'm delusional.
I'm delusional.
Yep.
I'm delusional.
All right.
Okay.
Moment enough to admit it.
Fair enough.
What about, well, you said earlier that you disqualified your guy.
Was there anything, was it strictly the body count, or was it something else?
Maybe he smelled weird, and then he said that, and that was the, you know, the straw that broke the camel's back, or was it like he was attractive in all regards, he was your dream man, and then he said, yo, I fucked 52 bitches, and you're like, nah, I'm good.
It was, yeah, actually that.
So he was your dream guy?
He wasn't a dream guy.
He was like a pretty good candidate for like people that I found attractive.
And then I asked him, that's not dream.
At all.
He was good enough.
Good enough.
He was good enough.
And at the end of the day, I asked him, like, how many bitches have you slept with?
He said 52.
Okay.
And guess what?
We went to go to the SDT, whatever.
STI clinic, yep.
Yeah, there.
We went there.
It came back clean.
But at the end of the day, I'm just not comfortable with you sleeping with that many people.
Why?
What do you mean?
What if he wasn't with you?
What?
What if he wasn't with you?
It doesn't matter.
I just don't feel comfortable with him.
I'm asking why does that make you uncomfortable?
Because even sanitary-wise, it doesn't matter.
Some of you guys don't even like to shave your pubic hair.
They're not knowing that your pubic hair stores bacteria.
It has nothing to do with the pubic hair.
So he's clean.
You're talking about sanitation.
So what's the reason it makes you uncomfortable?
My mental psyche just makes me feel disgusted that you laid down.
No, but why does it make you feel disgusted?
You're just using different words.
Because you're willing to be with that many people.
Every guy is.
Every guy wants to be with that many.
You're willing to share yourself so much and spread yourself thin.
You see how you're equating female logic to male logic?
We don't give a fuck.
I already told you I would fuck the onion, bitch.
I would fuck in Africa as a country girl.
We don't give a fuck to that level.
Yeah, I know, but you're not me.
You're not a man.
You have different standards.
If your dick's gonna go inside me, I hope that it's not been spread out there because I don't want it just for me.
What's your reason to make it feel disgusting?
Then I want to hear mine.
It's a personal preference.
I want you to peel back the layers.
It's a personal preference.
No, I know the reason why.
The guy's value wasn't high enough to command that.
That's the reason why.
That's not it.
You quite literally said a second ago he was good enough.
Which good enough means he just barely met your requirements and you were gonna give him a chance.
If that dude was tall, a millionaire, Charming smile, in shape, etc.
And he said, yeah, I had sex with 52 chicks.
That had nothing to do with it.
You would probably think twice before leaving.
No, I wouldn't actually because at the end of the day, that's my personal preference.
I personally choose to not be with a male who has spread himself across almost the goddamn city, state, or America.
50 is not a city.
Okay, you might be different.
I don't care what it is at the end of the day.
That's just how I personally prefer my body and how I want to use my body.
Okay, so here's what's funny about this whole topic here, right?
Most girls that we see even here in Miami, in America, in the West, they don't ask guys their body count.
What happens is they can tell how they move, how they act.
Okay, this guy's game.
He has riz.
All right, he fucks bitches.
But for my own sanity and anxiety, I don't know which guys he fucks because that's gonna fuck up my head.
So they don't ever ask.
They just say, you know what?
He's experienced.
I'm gonna go with the flow.
But deep down, they're like, okay, cool.
He has a lot of bodies.
But they don't care.
So you might say that, but most girls don't even ask the body count.
Yeah, they don't want to know.
No, but what Myron was saying was he was good enough when she met him, and then she took him to the clinic.
If he was her dream guy, and then if she would have asked him, she would have said, okay.
So here's another point to add to Myron's part as well.
So that being said, if you're going to say, okay, you get it with a body count, if he was successful, good looking, and actually got a value, you'd be like, you know what?
I don't even care.
I'm not going to ask that question because you know what?
I got a guy right now.
He's in my vicinity.
He's in my environment.
Cool.
I got him.
Why even ask that question?
I don't want to lose him.
I still wouldn't.
That's just me.
Personally, it's just me.
You're not giving any reason why.
Because I'm personally, I'm a germaphobe.
I really don't like touching him.
He's going in circles.
He's clean.
I don't give a damn.
That's my personal preference.
She might be OCD. I don't care if he had the juices of 52 other bitches on him.
At the end of the day, just how you feel as though a woman is fucking 52 men is not acceptable.
That's exactly how I feel for the men.
You have no reason though.
You know what's very interesting?
Just for you two in particular, since you guys have a point of contention with this.
Are you guys aware of the fact that if you meet a guy that's charismatic, charming, attractive...
He's gonna have sex with a lot of girls, right?
Of course.
I mean...
Do you really think that you are that special that he's only gonna wait and have sex with you?
I don't think...
When a guy has a superpower and the ability to attract a lot of women, he's damn sure gonna fucking use it.
And it always is amazing to me that girls think that, oh, this guy busts...
Absolutely, no, it does not.
It really does.
That's disgusting.
Ladies, a man has...
Yo, ladies, ladies...
Let's be very honest here.
Men have to build themselves up to be sexually attractive to women.
Women do not.
So a guy that's charming, charismatic, in shape, etc.
had to bust his ass to get to that point.
You, however, did not bust your ass to get to a certain point to get the same attention.
Now if a girl goes to the gym or whatever, that's fantastic.
She should go to the gym.
But she doesn't necessarily have to to be able to attract the other mate.
The guy does.
So when a man learns these skills, he's not going to sit there and have sex with one girl a lot of the time.
Maybe some guys will.
But if he learns these skill sets, which is...
I'm on the latter end, so I relate to the latter end.
Like, I go to the gym four to five times a week.
I take care of myself.
But you didn't have to, and you still get guys, is the point.
Yeah, because you look good, and he gonna have to catch his drift, like, Don't let her.
So, like, all I'm trying to say is that girls play the dating game on easy mode.
Men play the dating game on hard mode.
Careful, you said it again.
Not the dating game, the fuck game.
It's different.
They're different.
They're totally different.
We were talking about fucking.
You just said a girl doesn't have to try for shit to blah blah blah to fuck somebody.
If I wanted to fuck anybody, I could.
But to date somebody.
She's still gonna get opportunities.
If you're a busted ass fucking girl, you're not getting an opportunity for a six figure guy.
Yeah, you can.
This is the biggest cap I've ever heard.
We were just talking about all the simps out there and how a lot of men are lazy.
Are you kidding me?
Are six-figure men on average simps compared to the guys that are broke and busted at home?
Most guys are simps.
100%.
It's a numbers game.
If you want to talk about numbers, how many guys are six-figure men?
What are the percentages?
A low percentage, but we're just saying...
What is it, like 3% of earners are making over 100k?
That's not enough to date every single busted, broken girl.
You have options when you're a high-value man.
You're not dating, getting into a relationship.
You can't cut yourself like crazy.
No, no, but guys are...
But most men are simps, regardless of income level.
Yeah.
Being a high-value man doesn't necessarily mean you're not a sipper.
You think a guy earning 100 plus K is going to be looking to support a whole bunch of busted-ass women?
Well, actually, it's a...
Come on!
Where's the stop the cat button?
Where's my button here?
No shot!
I'll tell you this.
If the sex is good, and she's going to come around whenever he wants to, he might do a pay a bill or two.
You never know.
Would you pay a bill or two?
That's called prostitution, okay?
That's not dating.
No, no.
I'm just saying that...
Dude, this is in Miami especially.
They have us all the time here.
However, I would just say this.
The average guy, he can't, but he might want to.
Most guys are simps, bro.
I agree, but why are most guys simps?
It's supply and demand, right?
Most guys are simps because they don't have a huge supply of pussy, right?
But once you earn more money, once you've got more clout...
That is not true.
I can't speak for how pathetic maybe some of the people in your guys' orbit are, but if you've got 50 million fucking girls on Instagram, you're not thirsting over every single fucking woman, right?
When I was like 19 years old, turning down a woman would be really hard, right?
At 34, I've got a million fucking random girls that hit me up on every platform.
It's easy to say no.
Remember, you're using I'm using a high value reference point.
And we're talking about high value men.
A high value man can probably pull decently unless he's like a schizoid or something.
A high value man is not going to simp the same way a guy that smokes weed all day and simps his parents' basement is going to.
That's not true.
A lot of those broke guys will run out on the grill and cheat on the grill all the time.
Sipping is more of a mentality.
You guys are all over the place.
Broke men?
First of all, I thought you guys were saying women cheat more than men.
When did I say women cheat more than men?
Oh, so we don't believe that?
You think it's equal?
Let me get it on the record.
You think men and women cheat on each other equally?
Because I thought we quote here 50 million times the marriage stats of women leave men all the time and blah, blah, blah.
It's not about cheating.
You're making up points that I haven't said.
Okay, so then tell me clearly.
You think men and women cheat the same amount?
No, men want to cheat more.
You just said men, you said earlier that broke men cheat on their women.
No, there's a lot of bums out there that don't give a fuck about the girl and that's why the girl loves them because she's not giving her a lot of attention.
That's not what you said earlier.
You said a lot of broke men cheat on their women.
Do you think broke men don't have the opportunity to cheat?
They don't have a lot of women to cheat with.
Treat them like shit and just be a bum in general.
Sure, that's different than have the opportunity to cheat though.
That's a different thing.
That's what I'm saying.
Same thing is usually a matter of supply and demand.
Can we go back to our point real quick?
Yeah, sorry.
I know we're going on another thing about cheating.
So, okay.
So, you would not want to basically have sex with a guy.
You would disqualify him for his body count.
Fair enough.
Then you would as well.
Okay.
What about you?
Would you disqualify a guy in his body count?
Nah.
Personally, I want him to have as much as possible because I want a man with experience.
Nice.
I got a question.
I think that was the most real answer given.
Thousand.
We'll get some more chats here.
Wait, can I, real quick, can I ask another question on that vein, okay?
Because, wait, you have something you want to say.
Go.
You know, she just said she would just...
Fuck it.
Go ahead, please.
Okay, so I agree that most women tend not to care about male body count, right?
Because when people see a woman with a high body count, they think lack of control.
When you see a man with a high body count, you think this guy's in control, right?
He's capable of achieving a lot, right?
Agreed.
Now, however, I think body count matters to women, but I think it comes up in a different way.
So here's a question.
I could be wrong, right?
But let's say that you have a guy and you start dating and you start talking to him.
And you find out that he has, like, a lot of women friends.
And then after you start dating, you find out that he's fucked a lot of them.
Are you okay with him, like, texting, DMing, like, still being, like, close friends with these women?
Or going around that?
Good question.
We'll go around the table now.
Okay, so, just so we have it, so I make sure I have it right, ladies, please.
The question is, are you okay with a guy you find out has a high body count and he has a lot of female friends?
Has he had sex with a female friend?
A lot of his female friends.
Are you okay with him still, like, talking to them, like, in DMs and shit?
What are your thoughts?
Elnips.
Nah, I mean, I don't know, I guess.
I mean, if he's not, like, on that bullshit and, like, talking to them in some type of way, I don't know.
I don't know.
Knowing me, I probably wouldn't be okay with it.
Okay.
What about you?
No, not okay with it.
Okay.
It's a no for me, dawg.
It's a no for me, dawg.
Ready, Jackson?
But did you say before that you would be okay with your guy exercising options?
That is the reason why I'm single.
Because you make no sense?
No, I cannot handle it.
I cannot handle it.
That's why I'm single.
So you're not okay with the man exercising options?
Listen, I would, but I can't handle it.
What?
I would.
Like, maybe if I was a little bit more mature, I would be able to be okay with it.
Plus, I am not mature enough to handle it.
I know that I'm not mature enough to handle it right now, so no.
So, by definition, you can't accept it?
I can't accept it.
Maybe in the future, I would.
Right now, right now, right now.
I wouldn't.
The present time at 12.43 in the morning.
Okay.
Bruh.
I would not want him talking to girls that he's been fucking with, is what I'm saying.
If it was like once or twice, okay, and they have no ties to him, I'll be okay with letting it go.
But if it's like an everyday thing, like you're gonna see this person constantly- Yes or no, yes or no, yes or no, yes or no.
The answer is no.
She will not accept.
If it's like a threesome here and there, like I would, yes.
But if it's like a constant everyday thing, no.
Okay.
And then guys, like, yo, this is why so many guys struggle with girls, bro.
This is confusing.
It is confusing.
I don't know if y'all notice this.
I know I'm confusing.
I don't mean to make her a case study on this, but I don't know if you guys noticed.
She's been flip-flopping her answers based on how she feels at the moment that we ask her the question.
Yo, your poor baby.
And this is what I mean when I say that women, a lot of the times, Make their answers based on how they feel when a particular question is asked or how they feel at the moment of the environment around them, right?
I think there's something to be said for how confidently men will answer questions, though, when they don't know what they're talking about, right?
So she's obviously, like, waffling back and forth, but you'll have a guy, like, really confidently say some shit, like, I'd never date a woman who's 24 with a body count of 50, but I guarantee you, he might say that, but if the right girl walks through that door and she's a fucking 9 or 10, like, the guy will suck it up and do it 100%.
So even though a guy might give a confident answer, given the right circumstance, he'll probably be willing to bend or change too, I think.
I'm on circumstances too.
Okay, that's a fair point.
But the point is that He'll make that decision and say what's on his mind at that moment.
At that time, sure.
He's not going to flip-flop and, I don't know how I feel about this, and then, like, let their feelings go ahead 100%, like, dictate how they're going to answer a question.
But I'm pretty concrete on the fact that...
She's not sure.
I... No.
Listen.
And you really said men are just as delusional.
Honestly, honestly.
If he was going to have a constant relationship with this woman, no.
If it's, like, a once-in-a-time thing where we have threesomes or, like...
You know, I would.
I would.
I would be okay with that.
But if it's not, like, if it's a constant thing, hell no.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I want to have my spot.
We heard your Waffle House.
Waffle House.
Wait a minute.
No, no, no.
Definitely not.
That's what he said.
Waffle House.
Waffle House.
Why would you say that?
Not these two Waffles, not you.
That's what I was about to say.
I don't know.
Definitely not.
What about you?
To be honest, if you fuck that bitch, keep the mic close to you, please.
Just bring it closer to you.
There you go.
If it's your ex, if you're fucking her, she's got to kick rocks, so you're going to kick rocks.
I'm not putting up with that shit.
I'm not going to put myself through that shit.
I will stress myself out.
So he can't talk to his ex with you?
I'm sure they're all gonna say no, though.
Fair enough.
What about you?
I mean, I wouldn't like it, but, you know, humans are unique and there's different situations and, you know, there is, like, there has to be a respect towards me, you know, about it.
Like, uh...
Some guy could be best friends with a girl for lifelong and, you know, whatever, they did their thing one time.
Just one time.
Whatever, he introduces me to her.
We become friends.
Like, there's situations where you can be okay with it.
For real.
Okay.
And, yeah, of course, you're not going to like it as a female, but if there's a common respect, and I'm, you know, things happen.
We're all human beings.
I want to say that answer, I would be careful, because women will say that, but as soon as you guys get into a fight, and he's talking about women, and he's like, man, I got into a fight with Tony today, oof, that shit goes fucking crazy.
Well, that's where the respect comes in.
Our arguments should be private.
You shouldn't be running to a girl that you fuck about.
What are you going to say?
That men don't know how to keep that boundary.
What boundary in particular?
For example, how she said that he had a best friend.
They fucked once or twice.
And then they got into an argument and he's over here talking to her about the situation that they had.
It's not that men don't know how to keep it.
They just don't give a fuck about it.
They don't give a fuck about it.
That's why when you look at your guy, and every single time, it's like some fucking NASA GPS repositions his phone every time you look over him.
It's because he knows he's doing something dumb.
Of course.
Of course.
You okay?
I'm great.
Luckily you're in love, man.
I know, man.
Are you bricked up?
Don't worry about it, man.
L Fresh, L Wingman.
Bad Wingman.
Fresh is LBC. What about you?
No, I get it.
We look a lot of talking.
So the question was, basically...
Let's say you're dating a guy, and then you find out that he's got not just a high body count, but all of the female friends around him, or a lot of them, he's fucked them.
Would you be okay with him, like, still being friends and DMing them and stuff like that as you guys are dating?
No.
That's dead.
Because, like...
The relationship is dead or the girls are dead?
That's clarifying.
Like, no, like, really though, like, if I'm with you, like, you okay with me being cool with my nigga friends and I'm fucking my niggas, like, my nigga friends, like...
Yeah, my niggas.
Like, I'm just saying, like, be for real, like, you okay with me fucking my homeboys and you still, like, I'm still cool with my homeboys and you want me to still be cool with you fucking your homegirls and y'all cool and tight?
Like, no, that's that.
Alright, let me ask you a question, though.
Oh.
Let's say you're with a guy that you love and you admire, right?
And you respect him.
Would you realistically want to have sex with other men?
Excuse me?
Let's say you're with a man that you love and you admire and you respect.
Would you realistically want to have sex with other men?
Gross.
See, you can't even grasp it, right?
No, like, I'm sorry.
If you're with a man, your boyfriend, fiance, whatever, you love him, you respect him, Would it even come to your mind to have sex with other dudes?
No, I don't want to have sex with nobody else.
Okay, now, let me flip it.
If that guy's in a relationship with you and he loves you, you know what the reality is?
He wants to have sex with other girls.
I'm sure of it.
Okay, so...
You're right.
Because...
So, what you're arguing right now, saying, well, that's like me having sex with my homeboys.
Well, not really, because you don't want to...
You don't really want to do that.
So, to answer on my behalf, no.
Okay, you would not want it.
No.
But you do understand...
That a guy, even if he loves you, wants to have sex with other girls.
Most of the time.
You're right.
Because that's just how that...
Yeah.
So that's all I'm saying is because you were trying to say it's equal, like, oh, well, that's like me having sex with my homeboys, and I'm trying to say it's not because you don't really want to have sex with them if you're with a man that you love.
Versus he's with you, he loves you, but he definitely still wants to have sex with his homegirls.
That's what I'm trying to say.
She understands, like, both.
Like, really?
She understands, really, like, yeah, both.
Okay.
I think she understands, like, yeah.
I'm just saying men and women are different.
Really, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, women naturally don't want to be hoes if they're with the guy that they love, admire, and respect.
Of course not.
But a dude would definitely still have love for the girl, but he still want to ho off.
Like, he still want to, you know, fuck off.
Period.
And I get that.
You know, it's just, that's just how shit be.
Like, for real.
Not every guy.
Not every guy.
You're right.
Not every guy.
You're right.
Not every guy is the same.
Let me ask you a question.
If you know that guys want to do that...
Would you be okay with your guys stepping out, knowing the reality that most guys just want to have multiple women?
Would you be okay with that, knowing that?
Now that you understand the reality.
In that situation, that's where you got to know what type of, you know, what you're looking for in the dude.
Like, you know, what you want to put up with.
What you want to deal with.
Well, my question to you is, I want to try to get a direct answer here, is knowing that most men want to have sex with most girls, I'm saying if you're with the guy that you love and you respect, are you willing to put up with that?
Knowing that there's a high likelihood it'll happen.
I'm not for you, if you want to do that.
No.
So you want a man to be monogamous to you?
Only.
If it's real, you're right.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Okay, you want him to be monogamous to you?
Yeah.
It's not possible.
Some women are willing to do anything to keep you monogamous to them, like just faithful to them.
I think you should clarify your question.
Because when you say Your man wants to fuck another woman.
I mean, two very different things.
Does he, like, fantasize about, like, fucking other people sometimes?
Because I'm sure even most women will fantasize about, like, a celebrity or whatever.
Absolutely.
Or do they want to, like, would they have given the opportunity to step out and do it and not get caught when they do it?
They would.
Yeah, sure.
But I'm just saying those wants are two different things.
So, like, when you say, would you want to be with a man who wants to fuck other women?
Well, if you sound like it's natural that every guy, like, has a fantasy or desire to, that's different than it's natural that every man will cheat.
Yeah, but under the context of the conversation, how we pretexted him talking to those other girls and potentially having sex, I mean, I would assume she would infer that.
Potentially, yeah.
But I'm saying, like, a woman saying that, like, I want a man that doesn't want any other woman, she's either retarded or that sentence makes perfect sense.
It depends, right?
Because if you're with a man, you don't ever want him to have desire for the woman.
When I said that, you understood that.
I meant, like, he wants to be with other girls.
He wants to fuck other girls.
You understood that, right?
Like, we'll fuck other girls.
He will fuck other girls given the opportunity, right?
I mean, that's why she answered the way she did.
Like, no.
So I think she understands it, but...
We got you, really, like...
Absolutely, we got you.
This generation is just crazy.
All I'm saying is that you want a guy to be monogamous to you, and I'm simply saying that's not realistic in most situations.
You're absolutely right.
You're right.
You're right.
Why not adapt to reality and accept it?
You're right.
It's possible.
It's possible, but that's up to me on whether or not I want to move forward with that decision.
That's a good point.
What?
You're trying to be funny?
I agree!
He is trying to be funny.
What the fuck?
You're an asshole, bro.
You're an asshole, bro.
Good debate!
I don't know.
But I, like...
Like, she got it.
I'm cool over here now.
Yo, she cool and shit!
All right.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Would you be okay with your guy having his female friend still around that he had sex with in the past?
Never in a million years Please talk into the microphone.
Never in 11 years.
Never.
Why are you saying that?
I mean, come on, let's be honest here.
You're definitely under the influence of something when you came in here.
Bro, you're nodding off.
I'm nervous.
You're nervous?
This is my first time.
You were asleep half the show.
What?
You were nodding off.
Oh, well, I didn't sleep last night.
I woke up at 2 a.m.
I'm not gonna lie.
Like, we're not even gonna bullshit this.
You could barely even pick up that cup Cena gave you.
Oh, really?
I didn't even know that.
We know.
You didn't know that.
We fucking know.
I've been up since 2 a.m., so almost 24 hours.
Me too, babes.
Guess what?
I can pick up a cup perfectly fine.
Can you?
Pick it up.
No, no, coffee cup.
The other one.
That's so true!
So the only reason I ask is because I think that sometimes when we ask questions, especially poll questions, I think that sometimes the answers can be a little bit one-dimensional.
There's another question asked.
So earlier we talked about how many partners does a person have and are they likely to divorce?
And it's like zero and one are the best number of partners to have.
And it's like, well, it could be that they're religiously, they found the one.
And then same thing with this, does a girl care about a guy with a 50 or 100 body count?
Typically, if you ask a girl, they're not going to say they care.
But realistically, if you're known in a community as a fuckboy or if you've got a lot of girls you're talking to and your girlfriend finds out because you're not going to tell her that you fuck those girls because no guy will say that.
But if she finds out that you were fucking one of those girls, like there are a lot of problems tend to crop up to where the high body count guys do run into issues.
You're just not going to show up like a polling question.
Okay, but that man, okay, that's a good point, but that man is inherently attractive to women.
Yeah, he will be, yeah.
By virtue of...
I mean, there's a reason why he's fucking a lot of girls, right?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, but like, and I always find it funny, like a guy that can fuck a lot of girls, girls will sit here and lie and be like, I don't want a guy that has sex with a lot of girls, or I don't want a guy to be a whore, as they would say.
But the reality is, those guys are the most attractive, and those are the guys that women find irresistible, because if you're charming to one girl, well, women aren't really that special.
You could be charming to a large majority of them as well.
Sure.
Sure.
It's like you're constantly playing these calculation games in your head, trying to figure out who you want.
So, like, for a woman, like, the perfect guy would be, right, a guy that's super attractive, but is, like, blind, doesn't see any other woman, right?
That would be, like, the perfect guy.
And that's where the delusion comes in.
Like, I don't want to use her as an example, but she said, oh, yeah, I know most guys are not going to be monogamous, but I expect monogamy.
Well, sure, but also most attractive women aren't going to be a virgin until 24, right?
Oh, okay.
You're right.
No, no, no, of course, of course.
The guy's got to be fairly aware of that, too, that most girls are not.
I would argue that most girls, if you take an average 21-year-old female and an average 21-year-old male, the average 21-year-old female is going to be far more sexually experienced than the average 21-year-old male.
Probably.
In today's day and age.
Women just get more practice by virtue of being a woman, of dealing with opposite gender, which makes them a lot better at dealing with men than men are dealing with women.
I'm not even gonna let y'all like in this day and age It's a known fact.
Men fuck more than women.
No, not true at all.
Okay, but let's talk about my age group.
The 21, 22 year old.
Maybe the guys that you're talking to.
No, no, no.
That's not the guys that I was talking to.
What he brought up specifically was a 21 year old male and a 21 year old female.
No, in this day and age, I disagree.
In this day and age, I disagree, and I feel as though that a 21-year-old male definitely has more experience than a 21-year-old female.
That's not true at all.
Okay, well, that's what I believe.
One in three men haven't had sex in the past year or are virgins in the West.
One in three men.
There's more virgins in the West.
You said in the West?
Yeah.
You said in the West?
Yes.
We're in the East Coast.
This is the West of the land.
You already did the country thing wrong.
Don't try to do the geography.
You thought Dubai was a country.
That's fine.
The West is the Western world.
Okay, so Western European...
First world countries.
I get what you're saying.
Your point of view, the guys that you know do that, but the whole landscape of men around the world, especially the West, definitely don't get laid.
And as well, your local CVS and MAS, your local...
Wait, did you say the vast majority of men don't get laid?
Exactly.
You're right.
That's not true.
Bro, the top earners are getting laid.
The average guy is already getting laid like that.
It's high now, but it's still 30% haven't had sex.
One in three.
So the majority of men, 66.6%.
Maybe once or twice a year, but it's way less than...
Compared to women, though, it's way less.
So you guys are just sitting up here having sex so much or twice a year.
So the average American loses his or her virginity at 17.
Virgins make up 12.3% of females and 14.3% of males.
So it's a little bit higher on the male side, but not that much.
It's two points higher.
For ages 20 to 24, which is the age group she's talking about.
Thanks.
Not that high, but a little bit higher.
Well, I mean, you also keep in mind that women, you know, almost always under-report their sexuality, right?
For obvious reasons, right?
Their stigma.
And men over-report theirs.
Okay, but you said 21.
Basically, and let's really be honest about it.
When you get to 21, you're basically just becoming out of a teenager.
In American society, now you're technically considered an adult at 21, right?
But there's a big difference, though.
A woman is at her peak at 21.
A man is still fairly low value at 21.
And as well, who puts in all the work?
Girls just show up and they get laid.
We gotta actually have some game, be at least tall, somewhat successful, if we can be at 21.
It's not easy.
And maybe.
Fuck, you guys are a trigger the fuck out of me.
When you say girls have to put in no work and they get laid, that is true for an average guy.
It's not gonna be true for the top fucking 10%, top 5%, top 1% dude.
Top 1% guy is not fucking busted girls.
He doesn't have to.
Bro, oh my god.
Dude, he will fuck anything on a slow Tuesday.
He doesn't have to fuck anything on a slow Tuesday.
But he might.
You'll fuck anything?
I don't know in your world.
Is that how you feel?
How many?
Okay, hold on.
I'm curious.
For a guy that's decently clouded up on YouTube, how many unique women do you think he could fuck in a year?
A lot?
You had to guess.
You had to put a number to it.
Could fuck or would?
Like, could fuck, theoretically.
This is a very nuanced question.
Well, because mine, I'll tell you mine, I think that an average clouded dude on YouTube, an average clouded dude, if he was trying, could easily fuck over 50 women a year.
One new woman a week.
Easily.
You have a very high expectation.
Bro, you really don't think so?
No, man.
A lot of the guys that come on the show are guessing stuff like that.
Awkward.
They're kind of awkward.
They don't even know how to talk to girls.
It's kind of...
Okay, hold on.
Okay, yeah.
If it's an awkward fuck dude.
But if it's a guy that's like decently rizzed...
Most online creators, bro, are not...
Making documentary videos, editing all day.
Gaming.
Those Fortnite streamers don't know how to talk to women.
Okay, so square this for me.
Now you're telling me that these high-value men can't fuck a lot of women.
How does that make sense earlier?
You're calling a gamer a clouded-up dude on YouTube or something.
Give me an example.
Who?
Anybody on YouTube with over 500,000 subs.
He's not like a fucking Fortnite player.
Okay, let's use a person that came on here.
Steve will do it.
It's not that...
You're kind of looking at it from a black and white standpoint.
You gotta remember that there's high status guys that struggle with women and there's guys that are lower status that still fuck a bunch of girls.
The thing is that the Here's the thing.
Hold on.
I agree with what you just said.
Yeah.
But that's totally at odds early with your whole spiel early about hypergamous guys, top 20% fucking bottom, 80% constantly.
But now you're telling me, well, top guys can struggle.
Bottom guys could pull, which I agree with.
But now that's like the blue pill fucking shit, where that's like we get to the red pill and we go to like the PUA guys.
Like, if you've got game, any guy can get any girl, which I tend to agree with more.
Here's the thing that you're missing.
Sure.
The guys at the lower level have something exceptional.
Whether they're extremely attractive or they're charismatic, but they have something at the lower level.
Or tall.
The guys at the top level, they might have the status, but they're fucking awkward.
You know what I mean?
So a guy that has some game that's good looking can still go ahead and kill it, even though his socioeconomic status sucks.
So he'll get a girl, he'll get laid here and there, but retention is going to be a problem.
Because at some point, a girl's going to be like, okay, I can't take anything serious with you because you're a fucking bum.
So that's why I tell guys, you've got to have everything.
So it goes both ways.
There are bums that can get girls, and there's guys that have money that can get girls, and it goes the other way around, where there's bums that can get girls, and then there's guys that have status that can't get girls.
So, it depends on the guy.
You think a decently clouded guy, and it could be the case, I think a decently clouded guy on YouTube, he doesn't have to be the most rizzed out guy ever, but he's not fucking autistic, that this guy would desperately fuck any possible woman that talked to him.
He wouldn't be able to say no to anyone.
I'm saying, if he's at a party with friends, his girl's there, oh, she's kind of cute, alright, I'll do it.
Kind of cute is different than busted girl that puts in no effort.
Because, like, a kind of cute girl that's putting in minimal effort is still spending fucking 30 minutes on her hair, 30 minutes on makeup, is doing all sorts of shit.
You're forgetting a man's natural inclination to one I'm, like, just supposed to not.
Yeah, but the natural inclination changes based on what's available to you.
I think it changes.
It can.
Yeah.
But let's say nothing's available right now.
Alright, fuck it.
But if nothing's available right now, how are you a cloud?
Oh, right now?
Yeah, dude, for example.
But if you've got all these girls that are on call, you can fly anybody out in the world.
You can fucking do whatever.
You can go talk to anybody in your city.
But if you saw a busted up girl at a party and she was like, I want to fuck you, you'd be like, I have to.
Like a decently clouded out guy.
See, you're saying, for example, he can't ever do it.
I'm just saying he can if he wants to.
Yeah, but he wouldn't.
How would you know?
Because why would you?
You can call a better girl and go fuck her.
Okay.
Here's the thing, Destiny.
Girls play games, dude.
There's a girl that you'll hook up one time, right?
And then she'll play games, then you gotta move on to the next girl, whatever.
Girls are very fickle and flaky.
She'll fuck you now, and then her ex-boyfriend hits her back up, and then she starts talking to him, and she's out the roster.
Girls drop off all the time.
I agree.
Kind of.
But I think that's because guys play a lot of fucking games too.
Because guys will run into girls that are playing games, but it's because they're playing games to get in their DMs.
Oh yeah, we can chat.
It was so much fun hanging out with you.
I really enjoyed it.
Let's hook up again tonight.
And then you hook up, you bust, and you're like, I got shit I gotta do in the morning.
Can you take off or whatever?
And then yeah, of course, girls start to play games.
Because guys are playing the same fucking game.
I think if you're up front with a girl, and you're like, yo, you wanna fuck?
That's all I'm into.
That's all I'm looking for, whatever.
And she's either like, yeah, sure, or no.
They don't all say...
Absolutely not.
Wanna fuck?
That doesn't work.
And you're clouded up on fucking YouTube?
It doesn't work, man.
Girls want your time.
They don't want easy sex.
We want easy sex.
They want our time.
That doesn't ever work.
Don't give all bad advice to men and tell them to say, wanna fuck?
No, no.
It's not advice to normal men.
It's advice to clouded guys, which is what you guys talk about.
That's never worked.
I've never said wanna fuck.
Do you want to bet right now that you couldn't go into your Instagram DMs?
I know you could find it.
And a girl's hitting you up and you're like, hey, do you want to hook up?
There are girls on this panel that you could fuck tonight.
With little to no effort.
They're queens.
They're not easy.
I get what you're saying, but at the same time, it's a numbers game.
Them saying yes is one thing.
Them actually showing up, not saying, I don't know how I feel about this, can we go to date?
That's because it's the guy's trying not to fuck it up.
Don't do anything creepy.
Don't do anything fucking weird.
As long as you don't fuck it up, it's usually not that hard to land.
I can tell you have no experience with it.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Hold on.
I don't want to make it personal.
I don't want to make it personal.
I can tell you 100%.
There are like 20 girls right now that I could fly out if I wanted to tonight to fuck and never see them again and they'd be totally cool with it.
But that's because I'm super upfront right at the start.
When I talk to people, I'm fucking married.
I'm never fucking dating you.
But like, We can be friends.
I'll hang out.
I'll chill.
We can do it.
And I know there are other guys that are super cladded up on YouTube that can do it as well.
But when you guys are playing all these weird fucking games, you're like, oh, like you're trying to like maneuver or do fucking riz or whatever.
Just be upfront.
Be honest.
Be clear.
Don't be creepy.
That's the thing.
Today she's with you.
Then she's with me and him.
It can vary.
We're just saying, okay, a slow night.
You're chilling with the boys.
She's available.
All right.
Good to go.
We're just saying, look, bro.
First, let me take this.
I'm going to be very simple about this.
In the 1970s, there was a study done where when women were straight up proposition for sex, it was a 95% failure.
Now, let's go ahead and status and clout to it.
Okay?
That might lower the chances to maybe a 90 or an 85% based on who the guy is.
But you got to understand that there's multiple points of failure when you deal with a woman.
For sure.
Hey, wanna fuck?
Sure!
Next day changes.
I don't know how I feel about this.
And then she comes over to her place.
Do you mind if we go on a date?
I don't know.
Girls change their mind based off how they feel.
They don't want to feel like whores.
So if you say, wanna fuck?
She might say yes up front.
Then when it's time to actually do it, she changes her mind, etc.
So what I'm saying is that there's multiple points of failure when you deal with a girl.
Girls flake a lot.
Girls feel this way.
They feel that way.
Guy hits them up.
Boyfriend hits them up.
They're on their period.
There's so many different variables that could come in that fuck it up for you.
Now, I get what you're saying.
Yo, just proposition them.
Be honest with them.
That doesn't work for most guys.
Sure.
I'll say the last thing I'll say and then you can do whatever because I don't want to go back.
I agree with you that women will play games, but more often than not, just from the DMs that I've seen, from the people, women, and men that I talk to, it's usually because the guys are playing games too.
If you're up front, you might get shot down immediately.
But if you're up front and she's up front, usually things are okay.
But if you're playing games, you're saying like, good morning, hearts, blah, blah, blah.
Do you want to come over tonight?
And you're only looking to bust?
Of course shit is going to get fucking weird and crazy.
You know what?
Let's have fun with this.
Why do men play games?
Because women start the game.
I think it depends.
I think a lot of people play games for a lot of different reasons.
Let's look at this logically.
Men want sex.
If I go to a grown grossly proposition or let's fuck and I have a 90% failure rate, well what am I gonna do?
I'm gonna adapt.
Women want to play a game.
They want to feel something.
Okay, I can't just tell them, let's have sex.
So now, I have to play the game that women want.
I have to make them feel special.
The reason why men play games is because women start the game first.
It depends on who you say starts the game first, though.
If a woman is out looking, she's probably not looking for sex because women can find sex.
They don't have to go out looking, right?
But so, does the game start with the woman who is just looking for a relationship?
Or is it with the guy who's finding women that are looking for relationships trying to just give them dick?
But Destiny, how did he learn the game?
I don't know.
From experience of women playing the game first.
I'm just saying that if you're a guy and you're trying to fuck women that are only looking for relationships, who's starting the game there?
I mean, you also gotta look at human nature.
Human beings are creatures of the path of least resistance.
If guys can get away with grossly propositioning girls for sex up front, they wouldn't play the game.
I'm not saying the normal guy can do that.
To be clear, to reiterate, we were talking about 10% high value, man.
Because the original claim was that a high value guy will fuck a girl that puts in zero effort.
Well, I would date a girl initially, and then I said, not date, fuck, but even for fucking, a busted top 20% girl is not gonna go and fuck a whole bunch of high-value men.
It's just not gonna happen, because those guys have options.
Or at least from what I've seen, but I don't know, maybe it's different worlds, I guess.
It's different worlds.
It might be different worlds.
I'm just saying, men have to play games because women start the games first.
Trust me, human beings are creatures of least resistance.
If we could get sex just by saying, let's have sex, they would.
Now, going back to the higher status thing, Yes, it will drop it off.
Maybe not a 95% failure rate, maybe a 90% failure rate, maybe even an 80% failure rate if the guy's attracted to that girl and she knows him and watches his content.
But regardless, the girl's still gonna want something in return.
Women rarely exchange sex without some type of competition where there's time, resources, feeling special, and experience, etc.
Okay, so then just a question, yes or no, and I'm done with this.
And then she has something, right?
You have something?
Okay.
So for you three, all of you guys think that you could not fuck a girl, no strings attached, be up front with it, and your DMs right now.
You know that you can find one of your DMs to fuck.
That's not how it works for me, no.
And not the girls that I really want to fuck, no.
We just said busted, so this is any girl that's in your DMs.
What's your point about busted?
Well, because he was saying that busted women could fuck top 1% or whatever.
You asked me a person, I don't want to fuck those girls.
Okay, that's, but look, so he's doing the thing.
He wouldn't just fuck any girl, right?
Earlier we said, men will take pathologies, men will fuck any girl they can, but now he's saying you wouldn't.
I'll fuck a girl that is an astrology onion breath girl, she's still hot.
But you wouldn't fuck a rando in your DMs?
If she's ugly, no.
Okay, so he wouldn't fuck anything.
So he's a way exception.
He's the emotional man.
He's the emotional man.
I like that about you.
What is emotional about that?
You two guys, you want romance and love and pets.
I said I wanted an attractive girl.
That's cute.
I like that.
Okay, you two.
You guys don't think you could find a girl to fuck no strings attached to your DMs if you were to be up front like, hey, do you want to like meet tonight and just like hook up?
I mean, possibly, but I wouldn't do it that way.
What?
I thought you guys just said you'd fuck anything.
100% guys would fuck any of their moves.
Now who's the waffle in the fucking house?
What the fuck?
I am saying the average guy that's successful.
We're not talking about average guys.
I asked you two, specifically.
Nigga, why you put this on me, man?
No, that's what you're asking.
I'm asking both of you.
It's a personal question.
Now you gotta answer.
You put the girls on the hot spot all the time, but you guys fuck somebody no-strength attached.
I could possibly do that, but why do that?
Because you guys said that guys would fuck anything.
You said that you could.
Yeah, and you said you would.
You said guys would fuck anything in front of them.
They do.
Do you?
A lot of my friends, on some level, are successful, have money, and status.
And they just say, you know what?
Bro, she's here, bro.
Fuck it, I'm just going to do my shit in the room.
I'm just saying, like...
Here's how you're messing it up, because you're acting like, oh, if you DM and you go seek it out, it's not like you want to put in the effort.
Sometimes it's just available, and then you do it.
Or, like, say she's in the kitchen or something, and then you decide to whip it.
But, like, the effort, or calling her an Uber, some random girl that said, let's fuck, there's something unattractive about that.
The scenario that you're presenting is just kind of, eh.
Overall, men still would fuck anything, but it depends on the circumstance.
This is what I joke about on our stream, okay?
If you want to get blackpilled, okay?
You watch some YouTube shit and it'll blackpill you.
If you want to get really blackpilled, you talk to attractive women and you see how they live their lives.
The attention they get, the world they live in can be mindfucking.
You're living a totally different existence.
But the ultimate level of blackpill, in my opinion, is seeing really attractive men that are in denial about how much they could pull with very little effort.
Because all three of you I know could slay like fucking crazy with minimal riz between the way you guys look, between the clout you have, between the money you've got, the status you've got.
Not even.
You're done putting in the work.
If you want to just fuck, you're done.
You put in the work.
You're clouded up.
You got money.
You got status.
You're in fucking soft beach.
You put in the work.
It is easier.
Yes, I get that part.
You can't just be like...
Okay, you can.
To be honest with you, bro, you're liable for screenshots being posted everywhere.
Oh, look what he's saying to girls.
What, then you want to fuck?
You think someone's going to post a screenshot and say, oh, look at this creepy guy.
He said he wants to fuck my pussy.
Every single day, someone's being told by the social media world, oh!
He did this, this, and that.
Like a screenshot.
Dude, you can't play many different ways.
I'm just saying, bro, like, to do these things the right way, to protect yourself as a man as well, you gotta move a certain way.
You can't be doing risky shit like that all the time.
And if you do, someone's gonna say, you know what?
I want Club 2 as well.
I'm gonna post that shit.
You had something, right?
I wanna make sure the girls get their things in.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
I mean, we totally veered off this topic.
This is going off of, like, when you guys were saying that women, you know, they play the games first.
I guess what I'm trying to wrap my head around is, you know, if women play games first, don't you think that's because, let's say, hypothetically, they were straight up and said, you know, I want to fuck?
There's a certain view that you guys portray on us.
We don't want to look as whores.
So then it's kind of a lose-lose for us.
So if we play games, we're losing.
If we're straight up, we're losing.
So where do we even go with that?
Well, I mean, it's up to the girl, but...
The thing is, with women, is that the reason why they play the game is, yes, there's social consequences.
If a girl goes up to a guy and says, I want to just fuck, well, that guy might not respect her or take her seriously.
And then on top of that, why would a girl go ahead and say, oh, let's just fuck, when in reality, she can get a date out of him, she can get a resource out of him, she can get attention out of him, she can take time from him.
Girls rarely treat sex.
I look at sex as like a handshake.
If we look at it strictly, it's just a handshake.
But women don't treat it like a handshake.
They treat it as a value.
That's equal value exchange.
Women treat it like a value loaded exchange.
I need something in return.
I need some attention.
I need some time.
I need to feel special for her to have sex.
So why would a girl go ahead and trade sex for equally when she can actually get way more out of it?
And what most girls do is they leverage sex for compliance or time or attention to some degree is what most women do, a.k.a.
play the game.
So then we should play the game.
I'm not saying women shouldn't or should not, but what I am saying is that most girls play the game by virtue of this more beneficial to play the game than to be straight up.
And men, in return, must play the game because when a man, and this is statistically, this has been proven, when a man sees an attractive woman, the part of his brain that actually starts to activate is the part of the brain that tries to figure out how to fix things.
So he sees a hot girl.
Okay, how do I get laid?
And he starts going into deductive problem solving.
And that's where he's like, okay, let me flex status.
Let me flex my teeth.
Maybe let me flex my charm, whatever it may be.
Because he knows getting sex out of a girl most of the time is going to require work to some degree.
So the girl's job is, oh, you want sex from me?
You'll never get this.
Turns into fucking Borat.
And she's like, I'm going to go ahead and make you work for it to some degree.
Now, the more attractive the guy, maybe the less she's going to make him work.
But he still has to do something.
Brett Raley is going to say, okay, just fuck me.
That happens sometimes before and few between.
Can I ask a simple question again?
I won't go back and forth.
So just curious, if men didn't enforce the social consequences of women sleeping around as much, would women play less games?
If they weren't worried about being called a slut or a whore for sleeping around a lot, could you be more upfront with women?
Maybe.
That's a good question.
So you're saying if men didn't shame women for being hoes, would they be more up- I'll be honest.
When I was in California, and again, I didn't have socials or anything because I didn't want to meet people like that.
Half the women that I ended up hooking up with had no hookups in their profile.
And I don't think it was because they're just playing games or whatever, but it's because they don't want to be seen as a slut.
But that enforcement of, like, who's a slut, and again, I don't want to say, where did the game start?
Seems like it comes mostly from men.
Yeah, I mean, it's...
Okay, that's a good point.
It is social, but I would argue...
Yeah, I think women slush-shame each other way more than men do.
As soon as they get into an argument, the first thing they call each other is a whore, a slut, you have 30 bodies.
Oh, yeah, what about that?
Yeah, but because they know men care about it.
No, because they know inherently that that's where their value stems.
So you're acting in this hypothetical world that's never going to exist.
This blue pill world where we don't give a fuck about body count at all.
There's no point because this is biology.
Your body count matters if you're a woman.
So that's a hypothetical that makes no sense.
Men used to be the predominant contributors to slut-shaming women, but I think in today's day and age, you can't get away with it.
If you slut-shame girls all the time, it's just a matter of time until you get canceled, fired, or whatever.
A regular guy can't run around slut-shaming girls 50 years past.
No, but I don't want to use slut-shaming because it's a whole other thing.
But I'm saying men in general will keep body counts in mind.
If they didn't care, don't you think women would care less?
Because there's a lot of women that, like, you can't be ultra up front because, like, the woman wants to be a little bit of visual because she doesn't want to seem like a whore.
Even if she just doesn't want to fuck.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
They're going to play the game to preserve their value to a degree as well.
But also, you've got to look on the upside for her.
She gets way more out of it by playing the game.
Depending.
I mean, unless she just wants to fuck, but maybe you guys don't believe that's a thing.
No, it is.
It's much more rare compared to men.
If women want our time, we want sex without any time.
Yeah, sure.
And even if I think about it, okay, I just want to fuck, but you know what?
I can get a dinner date out of this.
Free dinner.
Why not?
Let's go to Rumble.
Two and a half hours, still not at Rumble?
Yeah, okay, yo, kill Twitter and Twitch.
Guys, come on over to Rumble right now, and then what, we're going to turn to the ladies?
Yeah.
Okay, guys, come on over to Rumble.
Rumble right now.
Facebook and Twitter streams are going down, and YouTube as well.
Rumble.
So come on over to Rumble, guys, aka the best part.
So what was the next?
Did someone else have something?
You had something, right?
You want to say?
Go ahead, please.
I was just saying basically because he was just like a woman wouldn't want to fuck.
I mean, he was saying basically a man wouldn't want to fuck a woman with a lot of bodies.
But basically that takes me back to my point earlier as to my personal preference as to why I don't want to fuck a man with a lot of bodies.
But you never gave a reason why.
I gave you a reason why.
You said it makes you uncomfortable and I asked you why does it make you uncomfortable.
You said because it's disgusting.
You went in circles.
You don't have a valid reason why it makes you uncomfortable.
I have a valid reason why it makes me uncomfortable.
And I told you mentally, it makes me uncomfortable to know that the fact that you stuck your dick in 52 different vaginas, it makes me uncomfortable to know that you, out of those 52 times, could have messed up and either taken home an STI. Because once again, yes, you can...
They got tested.
We're going in circles.
It doesn't matter.
No, because at the end of the day, you asked me what makes me feel uncomfortable.
So if you feel as though I'm going around with I got the answer to this.
Here's the thing.
Your feeling of disgust is kind of manufactured in your own head versus a man feeling disgusted by a girl being a whore is like hardwired into them.
Well, no shot.
Yeah, it is.
I think her feelings are the same thing as a guy's.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
If you ask for a girl, tightest pussy she's ever had, unchanged completely, 50 dicks, but she's got no STIs, she's got no fucking pregnancy, everything is 100%.
You wouldn't dare buy a pregnancy.
Well, it's different.
It's gross.
Don't say the bonding agent.
Go ahead.
Destiny.
We asked the girls, literally, we can use this own sample study.
She was the only woman at the table that cared about a man's body count.
Okay?
Sure.
So, for her, it's personal to her.
Well...
I didn't come on and say it.
I've said it now.
Sorry.
You can't change shit later.
We're two hours in.
Yeah, so...
I'm sorry.
But she's the only one that actually had a point of contention with a man's body count and would be willing to disqualify him for it, which I think is a important distinction.
Right?
So for her, she's like, okay, it's my personal thing.
I'm not going to do it.
But if you take...
And most girls wouldn't care about a man's body count.
If I lined up 100 girls, 90 of them are going to be like, eh, it doesn't really matter.
Just don't put it in my face.
Be safe.
Whatever.
But if I lined up 100 dudes, 95 of them are going to say, I care about a girl's body count.
Sure, but if we're...
Hold on.
Let me just finish.
Yeah.
The reason why they care is because it's hardwired in men to ensure that the mother of their children is actually, that's their child.
It's like a defense mechanism.
I want to make sure my girl's not a whore because if I'm going to invest in her, I need to ensure paternity.
Women don't have that same hardwired trait.
Now, she's an exception.
She cares about it, but it's not the same hardwired trait that men have is what I'm saying.
I think it's socially enforced.
I think that's where the majority of it comes from.
I don't think it's a hardwired, like you just feel that thing.
You don't think men are hardwired to be repulsed by women that are promiscuous?
I don't think so.
Not anymore that women are hardwired to be repulsed by men that are promiscuous.
I respectfully disagree.
And the reason why is because men are designed to be promiscuous.
Women are designed to consolidate on the highest value of men.
Hold on.
Men and women, humans are not designed to be promiscuous, right?
You have R series and K series reproductive strategies.
For humans, the reproductive strategy is heavy investment into offspring.
Reproductively, a woman is not looking for a guy that wants to have 20 different fucking kids because that guy's not going to have the time, attention, or resources for that woman.
So a woman is looking for a monogamous guy just as much as a guy is looking for a monogamous woman.
Well, this is where we go into the two parts, right?
Because I get what you're saying.
She wants a guy that's going to invest in her and her kids.
However, the traits that she's actually aroused by are traits that don't show that you're going to be a long-term good partner.
Dark triad traits, being a narcissist, being very self-centered and selfish to a degree, the bad boy tendencies.
That's what women are actually aroused by.
I don't think women are aroused by bad boy shit.
I think people say bad boy shit, but I think what she said earlier, they're looking for confidence.
If you've got a meek fucking timid dude that's online all day typing shit, and you've got another guy that's out there doing his own shit or whatever, even if you say he's a little dark trite, his confidence is gonna sell it more than anything else.
Confidence is equated to being an asshole.
Confidence is definitely equated to being a bad boy.
When you think of a bad boy, you think of a confident person.
No, no, no.
You think of confident, but not always an asshole.
There's a difference between a guy that's just mean and a jerk versus a guy that is confident and he can make you a little bit.
You know what girls say to confident guys?
What?
You're such an asshole.
No, no, no.
That's because those are guys online that read, how do you be confident?
Oh, insult her.
Hey, what's up, you fat bitch?
Oh, you think I'm mean?
Oh, wow.
Blah, blah, blah.
They say that when you don't compromise to what she wants, then she calls you an asshole.
You don't get called an asshole.
I guarantee you.
I don't even care what the woman at this table say.
I think the most attractive trait...
No, I don't even...
That's the delusion.
No, no, it's not the delusion.
Confidence is one of the most attractive traits you can have as a man.
Full stop.
People might think it's something else.
They might say, oh, I want a leader, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or dark triad, or a bad boy.
But at the end of the day, it's a proxy for confidence.
Because if you take a bad boy drug dealer, but he's also like a shy, meek, and not all drug dealers are like fucking Chad tatted up, fucking three years in prison for doing some crazy shit.
There's a lot of fucking losers that sell drugs and shit too.
A woman's not going to be attracted to a bad boy drug dealer that also plays League of Legends 12 hours a day She's looking for something that is confident.
A lot of bad boys or criminal people can be confident.
They can be like that.
We're kind of moving the goalposts here.
I'm happy to address that.
I'm happy to address the other part as well.
But the simple argument is that men are hardwired, right, to be repulsed by promiscuity versus women are not hardwired to be repulsed by male promiscuity.
And what do I mean by this?
Well, the most attractive men since the beginning of time have always had harems and hordes of women versus high-status men will not tolerate and or wife up a girl that has been a whore.
Like...
It is very different.
The harems that men have had aren't because they've attracted harems.
It's because they've enslaved them.
That's a totally different type of thing.
It's not like women were like, oh, like all 20 of us.
You're talking about like the aristocracy in society that's unprotected.
You're talking about like Genghis Khan, like raping and pillaging and whatever.
That's different than like they're attracted towards.
Well, let's talk about today.
Today's sexual marketplace.
Why is it that a minority of men are having a majority of the sex with a majority of the women?
It's because women naturally gravitate towards the best men that they can get.
And women are okay with sharing a higher status guy.
A couple of ladies here on the panel are okay with their guy stepping out on them.
But if you take a guy, he is not okay with his girl stepping out on him.
If she was way higher status than he was, she would.
He wouldn't.
Well, here's the thing.
Okay, you know what?
Let's go with that.
Okay.
He would if she was higher status than him.
But if I ask him and I put him in a room, listen, bro.
Would you prefer your girl be monogamous to you or step out?
He would say, I wish she was monogamous to me.
He just doesn't have the authority and the ability to get her in line, which is why I tell guys all the time, you need to be the leader in the relationship so that you can dictate the terms on what you want because what you want is naturally what she wants.
But most guys don't have that value, so they can't tell their girl, I don't want you to go and fuck other guys or whatever.
They just have to take it because the girl has higher status than them.
So Destiny, you're saying that, for example, Nick Cannon is enslaving his women?
How dare you?
Those are all consensual.
That's not a harem.
No, no, but multiple women.
That's not a harem.
When you're talking about historically harems, you're talking about like the protected elite class where like upper class women would be like sheltered into areas that were reserved specifically for like the higher class like kings, rulers, the aristocrats of the day.
But it's not like those women were like, oh yes, I want to go and check up with them.
That was just the organization of society that was, I think we know, can I say patriarchal without it like triggering people?
Like it was like male dominated society, like women couldn't even fucking vote, right?
Okay, well, now I would say things are very egalitarian, and the reality is that a man that can have sex with a lot of women isn't necessarily as unattractive as a woman that has had sex with a lot of men.
I mean, Destiny, that's kind of straightforward, man.
A man that has had sex with a lot of women is more attractive.
A woman that has had sex with a lot of dudes loses value.
A man that has had sex with a lot of women has proven his value.
Yeah, kind of, because a guy has to do effort to have sex with a lot of women.
Exactly, you agree.
But I'm using that as a proxy for something else.
Do you see how we're not talking about sex?
But the argument originally, Destiny, was that No, I'm just saying it's important to understand.
Like, if I say a guy has had sex, if I've had, yeah, but man whores are okay.
If a guy has had sex with a lot of women, but let's say that you take a guy that's had sex with a lot of women, okay?
But let's say he's paid for it every time.
Well, it's not the same now, right?
No, it's not at all.
But he's what paid for the sex?
Yeah.
It's not the same.
I fucked 100 prostitutes.
No guy would brag about that, right?
Even though you've had a lot of sex, that sex is a proxy for something else.
Same thing with a guy that has the game and the confidence to fuck 100 women but hasn't fucked any women is just as, if not more attractive than the guy that is the exact same but has fucked 100 women.
So the sex is just a proxy for something different.
No, I understand.
You're saying that a guy that's fucked a lot is more attractive than a woman that's fucked a lot.
And I kind of agree, but that's because for a guy to fuck a lot, generally there's a lot of effort that's been put in there.
But the guy's not attractive because he's fucked a lot.
But you are saying the woman is unattractive because she's fucked a lot.
Guys aren't attractive because they fuck a lot.
Usually they have to be attractive to fuck a lot.
But the full stop for you is how much sex the woman has had.
Which I don't think is necessarily fair.
What I'm trying to say is that a man's not going to get disqualified for having a promiscuous past from a relationship, but a woman will 100% get disqualified from getting a relationship from having a promiscuous past.
And the pair bonding is a real thing.
Men care a lot about that.
Why are you dismissing the pair bonding thing so much?
Because it's bullshit.
The relationships that we have with each other and the types of long-term commitments that we build are way more complicated than oxytocin reactions that men also release when they have sex too.
Okay.
I'm going to be like most of the girls that I've been with have wanted a relationship with me.
And then once you move on and you play the game and they realize what happened, there's a part of them that they have a level of rejection.
So the more they keep doing that, and there's all these girls that we understand that they want our time and we're not giving it to them.
After a while, they're losing their value and they become more negative.
They lose their innocence.
The more they keep fucking with these guys and the more that they have guys imprint on them and tell them their life, they have different expectations.
The more dick a girl takes, the more crazy she ends up.
Okay, I'll ask this question.
I might be totally wrong.
Of all the girls at this table, how many of you have hooked up with a guy one time, and it was kind of a casual thing, and that guy got, like, fucking obsessed with you?
We can start here.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Obsessed how?
Like, sends you four million fucking paragraphs without you responding, wants to see you every fucking day, is ready to like drop his whole life a movement with you.
A lot of guys are simps.
Not surprised.
Sure, but I'm just curious, because I feel like most girls I've talked to have had that, dude, there are people that my wife has said hi to one time, and she'll show me like, dude, check this guy's Instagram.
And he's sent her like fucking 2,000 minutes for like two years.
And like one piece of attention is like just saying hi to a guy.
What's the point?
What's the argument?
The argument, well, because this is the argument that you were making, that if a girl has sex with a guy, she's going to start to get emotionally parabonded, blah, blah, blah.
And I think the same shit can happen with guys, too.
Every girl that does casual hookups has a horror story of a guy that got ultra-fucking-obsessed with her.
I think it happens on both ends.
Those aren't experienced guys.
Those aren't guys that are fucking alone.
Oh, no.
Any guy can fall into that fucking sim trap.
You've got to guard yourself from it.
No, after a certain amount, that doesn't happen.
These are guys that have no experience with women.
These are guys that watch streamers all day long and they're like, oh, Pokimane!
And they become a simp and they fall in love with people that they see through a screen.
Those are simps who have no experience.
They're losers.
I think anybody can fall into...
I think you hit the right person at the right time in the right circumstance.
I think anybody can fuck their life up.
Okay, those guys that became obsessed with you, what were they like?
Both of you, yeah.
Give both answers.
Let me go first.
I could put in, I don't know.
Were they winners?
Yeah.
I guess one of them was, yeah.
For sure, yeah.
Okay, what about you?
Yeah, pretty much.
What did they do for work?
Well, cryptocurrency, I guess that's what you guys call it.
Mail astrology, that's what we call it.
Okay.
Cryptocurrency and construction.
So, yeah, I don't...
You was a winner?
Well, I'm 22, so yeah.
Okay.
In that context, he's a winner, but we're just saying...
To the real world.
Yeah.
Yeah, these aren't guys that have extreme experience with women.
This is not really...
This is not going to happen to...
Like, I don't ever...
That's not a possibility for myself.
That's not a possibility at a certain point to just, like, become obsessed with...
Here's the thing.
They're not winners because they're willing to commit to a girl off-rip.
They're not a winner by default.
Men that are actually worth something make a girl work for the relationship.
Like any guy, right?
Like, yo, it's very simple.
Like, let's say I'm a prestigious law firm.
Well, someone has to have certain accolades.
They have to have a good resume.
They have to show up at the job ready to go, etc.
If I'm a prestigious law firm, you have to bust your ass to go ahead and get a position here because everyone else is applying.
That is what a guy that's worth something is.
The girl's got to bust her ass to get that guy's last name, to get a ring, to get commitment from that man.
When a guy goes in and has sex with you one time and says, oh, I want to wipe you and gives you all this attention.
He's a loser by default.
And you guys reacted appropriately.
You said, fuck this shit.
This guy's willing to give me his commitment just for sex.
This nigga's a loser.
And they get rid of him.
So, yeah, men that are losers give their commitment early or give it away easily.
So those two guys, you guys dealt with losers.
No offense.
They weren't winners.
No, I don't want to keep going.
Then we're going to close out after this.
98 says free entry take until it's backwards.
Also, why is Destiny cosplaying as a blue pill today?
We have here as well.
I saw a $500 one come in.
Chicken Hawk says, imagine a blue-haired man telling you that you have no life and real-world experience.
How many real jobs have you had, Sneko?
How many what?
How many real jobs have you had?
You were doing YouTube since you were 14 years old.
I've had four jobs, bro.
Doing what?
I worked in an office.
I worked Uber Eats.
I worked at a restaurant.
I worked at Subway.
I'm 24.
Okay, good job.
I have a genuine question, and I don't want you to get offended by this, but I was thinking a lot about why the body count thing really bothers you.
Do you consider yourself an extremely feminine woman?
Or do you think you have some masculinity?
I see where you're going here.
Right.
No, seriously.
where are you going here um emotional damage you...
Because that's a masculine trait to care about that.
And like the way you bullied her a little bit and like the way you've been looking, I'm like, maybe a little...
No, I'm not that, for one.
Hell no, I would never be that.
And there's no discrimination to the people that are that at all.
That are what?
Slightly masculine?
He doesn't mean like trans.
No, I'm not talking about trans.
He means that you're very masculine.
You're more dominant.
You're not a pushover is what he's trying to say.
Yeah, I mean, I would say I have certain masculine qualities that, I mean, I've had life experiences that have made me that type of person.
Sorry.
So maybe that's why you have that uncomfortability with men having a lot of bodies.
You could equate that.
You could equate a woman's...
You're not bothered by that at all.
And I would consider yourself very feminine the way you've been acting on the podcast.
And you have a problem with that.
And the bullying and stuff like that, there's some masculine traits.
I don't mean that disrespectfully.
That's just an analysis.
That's fine.
I've made those analysis of myself as well.
And I don't mean to bully you, or whoever's drunk, because I think she's more so high than drunk.
But I don't mean to bully you.
It just really irritated me.
So, yeah.
Sorry.
I think, honestly, most females do care.
I just think the reason why I don't, I think females train themselves to not care because they kind of come into terms on what reality is.
So definitely for me, like, you know, I know how a man is going to think and work.
So it's like, why would I beat myself up and care about what he's going to do when I can just focus on my happiness?
She refuses to accept that.
She's listening to you just shaking her head.
No, no, no, no.
You just got to, like, I'm agreeing with her.
I'm not disagreeing with what she's saying.
You just kind of have to accept it in the moment you accept it.
No, I'm shaking my head because I'm definitely agreeing with what she's saying.
What she's saying is not wrong.
I'm all for, like, what she's saying.
I'm all.
But you literally disagreed with it earlier, saying, I want a monogamous man.
But she didn't know.
She knows that's how men are, but she doesn't want to accept it.
So it's like, when you come into terms and you accept it, then...
It's like fleshing out the answer more, where it's like, do you want a guy with a high body count?
And most women are like, yeah, I don't care.
The reality is, is that like, I mean, it'd be nice if they could have a lower one, but realistically, like, what the fuck are you going to do?
Like, if it's a really attractive guy, he's probably fucked around.
You might prefer one with less, but like, what do you mean?
No, but she said she straight up cut somebody off because of his body count.
Yeah.
Yeah, she might have.
And I was trying to equate that to how feminine and how masculine a woman is.
I mean, it is rare.
I mean, you're one of the few girls that actually does.
Most girls that come on the show say, no, I don't give a fuck about it, or I don't want to know.
But for you, it's like a disqualifier, which is rare.
That's what I'm saying.
So he wants to know why, but I mean, that's her preference.
All right, we got some more chatter.
Tony Esquire says, the woman with the olive top insulted the woman sitting across from an instant karma was watching.
East Coast?
Huh?
Huh?
Never place fake eyelashes and hair in place of education.
This nigga, bro.
Alright, I'd argue if you have no influence over breaking her own rules, you are not special.
I actually believe rule breaking is an indicator some women rely on.
Hope that makes sense as written.
Benjamin Shade, 500.
That nigga ballin'.
Okay, appreciate that.
We got some Rumble Rats too here.
Rumble Rats?
Okay.
One?
All right.
Okay, cool.
Shout out to all our people on Rumble.
Shout out to all you faggots.
Yeah, all you faggots.
Faggots!
Destiny doing all that talking and the girl to his right still wants to bone Sneeko.
Top Jeep rubber.
I think he means to Destiny's left.
To Destiny's left, right?
Or is he talking about Miss Maryland over here?
No, I want to get dinner.
I want to go mini-golf and talk about star signs.
Okay, so ladies, here's the last part of the show.
Questions, comments, last thoughts on the show, and we'll start right here.
Best for the last?
It was definitely...
That's crazy.
It was definitely an experience.
I feel like I learned a lot.
What'd you learn?
Was it worth the two-hour drive?
I'd say so.
What'd you learn?
I want to know what you learned.
Stop the nip.
I hate you.
I This is a good time, right?
Yeah Yeah, I just learned two different insights.
What were those insights?
No offense, but she could barely name three countries, right? .
Doesn't remember anything from the show, but she still has a bunch of news that she hasn't even looked at their DMs on fucking Instagram, bro.
I'm telling y'all, man.
Only women can be stupid and make it through life.
No offense.
Okay.
Don't be misogynistic.
Destiny, say something misogynistic.
You're on Rumble.
Come on, say whore.
Say faggot or something.
Faggot is misogynistic?
Just say something that's going to hurt someone's feelings in your chat.
Okay.
If one of these women pisses me off, I'll do it.
Go ahead.
I'm just saying, because you're pretty, so you can get away with...
Don't lie to her, bro.
She's pretty.
That's crazy.
That's all you say.
I think I'm not talking, bro.
What?
All I'm saying is that girls can get away with being dumb if they're pretty, bro.
That's all I'm saying.
Wait, you want to go there?
Uh-oh.
Oh, man.
No, no, no.
Do it.
We'll move on.
Go away.
What's up?
He's not scared.
He's fearless.
He just told me he's fucking fearless.
He's saving you.
You want to not be saved?
What do you mean?
Just go for it.
Go for it.
Go for it.
That's my son.
I don't want to school on my camera.
You're a little bro.
Go ahead.
I'm a little bro?
Go for it.
You don't want my advice?
Let it rip.
On dates?
Yo!
Let me tell you what happened.
You want me to say it, bro?
I'll say it right now.
Say it.
I feel like you should say it.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
You're scared.
You know what?
I'm going to say it, bro.
Say it.
So we're out on a date, right?
Wait, wait, hold on.
Yeah.
Story time.
It's gay.
Are you scared?
Tell the story.
Tell the story.
Come on, we all want to hear it.
No, we don't want to hear the gay ass story.
Go ahead.
It's up to you.
Yeah, he definitely spared your ass, though.
Now the audience is imagining whatever the story is way worse.
I really want to hear it.
There's one on a double date.
That's all.
There's more than that.
Go ahead.
You can tell me after?
Sure.
Okay.
Closing remarks.
It was glad to be back again.
It was good to be back again.
What I would like to say, though, is for one question, I have a question for you.
Why Blue?
In 2019, my community was doing a charity to buy gifts for kids in hospitals, basically.
And I said that if you could raise at least, I think it was like $20,000, I'll dye my hair blue.
That was in 2019.
So, like, a month ago, I was at a community event, and we finally did it.
Congratulations.
He's blue.
If he was green, he would die.
That reference flew over everyone.
Did you break that one down for us?
I'm too old.
Did you learn anything?
iPhone 65.
Oh, never mind.
Okay, gotcha.
I heard you say something.
Yeah, buddy.
Now it's a remix on faggot-ass TikTok.
I'm good.
Now I'm feeling all right.
That fucking gayness, but it's actually a classic house song.
I'm blue.
If I was green, I would die.
But now it's the stupid gayness on TikTok where they totally fucked up the song and made it for 304s.
I'm showing my age right now, though.
I'm showing my age.
That's an old song from the 90s.
Back in my days.
I know y'all niggas at Rumble know what time it is.
But my favorite type of music is House and the Trans, so yeah.
I mean, he's used to it.
It's good music.
Yeah.
I like everything.
I listen to all genres except for country.
And drill, yeah.
Yes, I listen to all genres.
What about you?
What's your last comments, thoughts, questions?
I guess I learned that I'm going to have to take it that all-man fucking cheat.
Can we confirm it for you?
Yeah, y'all confirmed it.
Hey, man.
I'm just going to give the realest advice ever.
Just get back with your baby daddy, bro.
No.
At this point, I'm not going to lie.
I don't disagree with Myron.
I think you should.
Realistically speaking, you're going to be a liability to any guy you deal with now.
You're 30 years old and you have two children.
No guy is going to want to deal with that.
Just being honest.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, of course.
Do a post-birth abortion and then we can talk.
Jesus Christ!
That's why they kicked that thing off you too.
That's fucked up.
My kids are huge.
I can't do that.
That's not true.
I understand.
I can't get away with this one.
It's too late.
I love my kids.
I'll just decide, I tell this to- I know I'm not a high value woman because I have two kids and I'm 30.
I understand that, but it's okay.
Let me tell you what I was just saying that I feel as though you should.
Because you moved out here to Miami and you said it earlier before we even started the show.
You moved out here to Miami looking for love.
Let me tell you why you should go back to your baby daddy because that is the wrong thing to do is move to Miami looking for love.
Thank you.
How can you move to a city where a whole bunch of other people aren't even from?
I was 16.
I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
I had no idea.
I was 16 years old.
I think what she's trying to say is that in Miami, you're just going to get sick and no one's going to take you that serious.
Literally.
Because, I mean, I'll tell you, like, I mean...
Most guys that have money and status, etc., if they look at a girl, they're going to want to go with a younger girl that doesn't have children.
You know what I mean?
Because most guys don't want to invest in children that aren't theirs.
It's just biological.
I understand that.
I'm cool with it.
Fair enough.
If you accept it, then that's good.
I accept it.
It is what it is.
I'm damaged goods.
Emotional damage!
I'll say it.
You can infer that from what we said earlier.
We didn't say days out words, but you can infer that.
Okay, what about you?
Alright, I'm not quite sure what I learned and everything, but it was nice getting...
You didn't learn anything?
I'm not necessarily sure as of right now what I learned, but yeah.
It's nice seeing different perspectives on the way you think, you know?
Can you remember one of the perspectives?
Definitely back on the cheating stuff.
Such as?
I don't know.
Just all men want to cheat and you get hopeful, but no, you guys kind of set it in stone that there's no hope for that.
Okay.
That's your takeaway, I guess?
That's all y'all learned?
We've been here for three hours and that's all y'all learned?
Okay, let's escape.
Yo, only women can be stupid and make it through life, bro.
Guys can't.
If you're a dumb guy, you ain't making it far, bro.
She don't want you.
Yeah.
All right.
No offense, ladies.
Nothing to that, Destiny.
That's not misogynistic.
I think there's a lot of fucking dumb guys out there, but I mean, I don't want to fight you on every single thing you say.
But they pay for it, though.
Don't you be a dumbass guy and get by in life and do shit?
What do you mean?
Hold on, hold on.
No, you get called retarded.
Hold on.
Who the fuck cares?
You can be a dumbass fucking guy.
Who's enabling dumb guys to live a great lifestyle?
If you're in the Western world, all you're going to do is wake up, go to work, go home, don't live in an expensive city, and you'll make it.
You'll survive.
But they can't really enjoy life like they should.
Is what we're seeing.
They're half depressed.
Sure, but I mean, women that are really dumb can't enjoy life either, right?
Isn't it like fucking 34% of women have taken like a prescription SSRI in the past fucking year?
Like, I'm sure you guys have talked to your show that women are more miserable today than they ever have been, and I know you guys probably made that argument about arguing for traditional lifestyles and pulling the workforce.
So this idea that all women are happy and doing fine and blah blah blah, contradicts probably things that you guys did.
Let me make this very simple.
Sure.
A woman that's incompetent but pretty can live a way better life than a man that is incompetent and handsome.
It depends on what you mean by better life, right?
That woman can be stupid, bring nothing to the table, pretty enough, and still potentially land a millionaire if she doesn't fuck it up.
A guy, he's got to go out there and get it to go ahead and be able to get the same level of sexual attention.
We had this argument last show.
I just, I super disagree.
I don't think millionaires are going after...
Men don't have to become?
Millionaires aren't going after average whatever women.
But you guys disagree with that.
I've met so many.
I just don't...
I disagree completely.
You're underestimating how much guys just want to smash.
No, no.
Hold on.
Stop.
Don't 180 again.
You're at the 180 again.
Because we just argued earlier that all three of you said, I don't want to go through my DMs and just fuck a girl.
All three of you fucking said it earlier.
And now you're telling me.
Stop going back and forth depending on what fucking argument it is.
You triggered the fuck out of me.
I'm blue hair triggered right now.
You see what you're doing to me?
I'm glad.
I'm going to be in your fucking thumbnail screaming now.
I'm just saying it can happen.
Also, you're saying all guys just want to fuck.
That wasn't what we were talking about.
We were talking about being in a relationship.
But Destiny, you're missing the point.
By virtue of the guy wanting to fuck the girl, the girl at least gets an opportunity to meet the man, sway him into taking her seriously.
Versus the man doesn't get the opportunity at all.
So even if it's sexual, which I see where you're coming with that.
Yeah, there might be like a one in a million chance where it happens.
But the reality is, if you look at who marries who, it's people who are similar race, similar socioeconomic background, similar regions, similar education level.
Those are the people that get with each other.
There aren't all these millionaires.
Half of those fail.
That's fine, they might.
But I'm just saying there's not all these millionaires out there picking up average chicks.
It just doesn't happen.
You're missing the point that a girl can be stupid and be invited to a party with a bunch of celebs and higher status guys versus a guy that's stupid and ain't gonna get no invites.
He's gotta be the one that's hosting the party.
It depends on what each side is valuing.
But remember, you're using words in different ways.
You're saying a woman can not do anything, blah, blah, blah.
A woman can be a dumbfuck, blah, blah.
Sure, but that's because the types of guys that you're talking about don't value intelligence.
So of course a woman can be a dumbfuck and be with a certain type of guy.
I argue most guys don't value intelligence.
Sure, and if most guys don't, but then who do you have at the end of the day to blame for women being stupid?
It's for men that are simps.
They're the ones that are starting the problem there, right?
If you're a guy, and if you're advocating, just like women that have educational degrees are fucking masculine, or women that have jobs, or blah blah blah, you want a woman that doesn't work, that wants to take care of her house, blah blah blah, you're advocating for the type of women that have more intelligence.
I like that you said that.
You diagnose the problem, but that does not change the fact that the problem is still there.
You diagnosed it.
Women are stupid because men don't challenge them to be intelligent.
I agree.
However, that does not change the fact that most women can get by by being un-stupid because most men don't care.
Sure, but a lot of guys can get by being stupid too.
Not to the same degree as a woman.
Maybe.
If you're talking about finding a relationship, maybe.
There's a lot of stupid guys out there that do just okay in life.
We're watching a billionaire right now lose 70% of the fucking value of himself destroying a social media company who's supposed to be a fucking genius.
I'm just saying there's a lot of dumb guys out there that are doing okay.
You call Elon Musk dumb?
Yes.
Destiny does hate Elon Musk.
That's a whole other conversation.
Okay.
I didn't hate him until he bought Twitter and he acted like a dumb fuck.
I at least gave him props for...
Twitter's so much better.
That's one thing you and Hassan, Lassan, agree on.
He hates Elon Musk, too.
I gave him props for SpaceX and Tesla.
And I always give him props for that.
The liberal shit.
Goddamn, is that guy a fucking moron when it comes to everything he's done on Twitter.
Holy shit.
Oh my fucking God.
How can you be so fucking stupid?
How many more shares of Tesla is he going to sell to cover his fucking interest on that big ass fucking loan that he got conned into taking, that Congress forced him to go through on, that he was trying to back out at the last moment.
There's bots all over to it.
I don't want to fucking buy it.
And he still had to fucking buy it.
He bought that company for what?
$54 a share when it was trading for what?
$35, $37, $38?
Like dude, he got ripped the fuck off.
You can't win owning a social media company though.
Then maybe you shouldn't buy one.
I would've bought it.
A woman billionaire couldn't have made the same mistake.
That's what I'm saying.
A woman billionaire doesn't really exist!
You do!
You just have to marry a male billionaire and then divorce!
Thank you!
That's my misogyny!
That's my misogyny for the day.
If you take the top richest women in the world, I think almost all of them got their money through a divorce or inheritance.
It's true.
Rihanna?
I said the richest women in the world.
Rihanna's poor compared to the top 10 richest women in the world.
No offense.
I mean, she's self-made.
Jeff Bezos's wife.
Yeah.
She got her.
She got her.
I mean, sorry.
Rihanna's one that's self-made.
Yes.
Yes.
But the majority are not self-made.
Yeah.
We're talking about the richest now.
Wait, what about the Kardashians?
Oh.
I don't even know if they're in the top ten.
Yeah, they're not.
Isn't the Kim over a billion?
No, no.
Hell no.
She's had like four different husbands.
Yeah, but I don't think her husband's made her, right?
Didn't she?
Like, she built her business and did her shit.
Off of sex tape.
Yeah.
At this point, she can do it doing OnlyFans and who else does OnlyFans in here?
Okay, hold on.
There was a more popular sex tape than Kim Kardashian and I don't think Paris Hilton is worth the fucking same amount of money on her own.
That's what we're saying.
That's not self-made.
You didn't self-make anything by you having a sex tape and I don't think Kim Kardashian is just because of the sex tape.
I think she put in a lot of work to get to where she's at.
The marketing, the social media, the whole business document.
I was just talking about the richest women, the top 5, top 10, which they all eclipse Kim Kardashian and Rihanna, unfortunately.
The wealth disparity is huge when you get to that level.
Thoughts on the show?
Questions, comments?
Or disagreements?
This was fun.
I thought we were going to talk about this a lot more tonight, so I'm just going to say FreeTopG.
Okay.
Yeah.
You're really based.
You haven't taken one out of this whole night.
I was going to say, Elon Musk is dope, too.
What's your name?
Tony.
Oh, you find the whole name?
What's your name?
All right.
I want to say everything was a great experience.
I just know being on the show, you have to be very open-minded when it comes to both genders, and that's just how I feel.
Do you still want monogamy?
Bruh.
Like, really?
Like, do you?
Monogamy.
You could say yes.
I mean, you could say, I'm not changing.
I want monogamy still.
Or you could say, oh, you know what?
Maybe I might be open to him fucking a bitch here and there.
Nah, that's dead.
I'm standing on what I said.
Why don't you just say that then?
It's grits, nigga.
It's grits.
We ask the question, it's like a delayed effect.
It's like I don't know like She has second-hand high.
These two are friends like she's lagging in real life or something like No, where's the answer?
It's like you click a link and it's just like spinning the fucking out like it's like this I'm just waiting like you refresh the page almost and it finally looks like right there She cool.
I like her.
She cool.
I'm like what's going on here?
Yo, she grits.
You good?
She cool.
I'm all cool over here.
Yeah, she could be cool.
Alright, what about you?
I'm gonna troll you the whole night.
You cool.
What did I take away from today?
Last thoughts or comments or anything.
I enjoyed everything.
Sorry, everything everybody had to say in their viewpoints and how they feel.
I'm glad everybody felt so open enough that they can, you know, open up.
What drug did you take before the show?
We got no.
It's okay.
You can tell us.
We're not on YouTube.
I'm nervous.
I've been up since 2 a.m.
Maybe a little bit of cocaine?
No, I don't coke, bro.
Hold on.
To her credit, right?
She made it through the whole show.
Props to you because I'm surprised you're still here.
You almost got castled.
But she made it.
She made it happen.
Thank Fresh and Xena for the coffee.
Thank you.
Chris, I know you ain't talking.
You brought her.
Yo, what's my story?
She was good as fuck.
Why did Chris put her next to me?
All the girls are crazy are next to me, bro.
Just saying, generally speaking.
I thought it was funny.
Is this how you are all the time?
No, to save her, she was talking and speaking and perfectly fine before it started.
She was!
I told you.
I don't know what happened.
The moment we sat down, it's gone.
I didn't.
I didn't pop.
Alright, first of all, I'll start you in the bathroom for at least 10 minutes.
So I don't know what happened in the bathroom, but...
Bath salts.
You were the last one that came out.
Was it bath salts?
I don't know.
But you're cool.
That's fine.
You're still here.
No castle.
I've been up for about 24 hours.
Yo, was it 2012?
She ate somebody's face off of her show?
Yo.
All right.
Destiny and Sneeko, where can they find you?
Rumble the best website on the internet because I am too problematic and toxic and insecure for Twitch and YouTube.
Everybody here should end this on the Rumble part of the show.
They already know.
I think we got like 28,000 people, 27,000 people watching, man.
So yeah, go subscribe to Sneeko on Rumble.
And the Creativity Kit 2.0 is dropping February 1st.
I'm getting new professors.
27k.
Shout out to all our ninjas on Rumble.
What about you, Destiny?
Find me on YouTube and Instagram at Destiny.
And me and you will debate next week.
Something.
What's the next hair color?
Back to Brown.
Because fuck maintaining this shit.
Fair enough.
Alright, guys.
We'll catch you on Monday.
For Money Monday.
Before that, Happy New Year's in advance.
You guys watch us later on.
Happy New Year, motherfuckers.
And hope you're on your grind as well.
Free top G. Free top G, man.
Yes, absolutely, man.
Go watch our stream earlier where we debunked a lot of the bullshit.
And you can support them by going to Rumble and helping all their platforms.
rumble.com slash tatespeech.
Yes, rumble.com slash tatespeech, man.
Shout out to you.
I will catch you guys on Monday.
Peace.
Peace.
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