Epoch Times - Gordon Chang: ‘Killed to Order’ Exposes ‘Evil’ of the CCP
Aired: 2026-03-02
Duration: 02:27


=== Why We Shy Away From Evil (01:58) ===

[00:00:00]  This is something that's, I guess, an important functioning element of how the Chinese Communist Party operates.
[00:00:09]  It illustrates the maliciousness of the regime.
[00:00:12]  I mean, this is beyond the comprehension of most people.
[00:00:16]  And, you know, if you go back, let's say over the last 10, 15 years, a lot of people have shied away from the accusations of organ harvesting because they were just too grotesque.
[00:00:28]  They were too far beyond the way that people in democratic societies think.
[00:00:33]  It was just evil.
[00:00:35]  And we Americans have shying away from the notion that there is evil in the world.
[00:00:43]  Now, I'm a Christian.
[00:00:45]  You know, evil is very much, you know, in the Bible.
[00:00:50]  You've got the devil.
[00:00:53]  But American society has sort of, for a number of reasons, have sort of shied away from this notion that there is evil.
[00:01:04]  But organ harvesting, which you document in your book, it is evil.
[00:01:09]  And we have to start talking about it in those terms.
[00:01:13]  And one of the things that why Ronald Reagan prevailed was because he was willing to say in public that the Soviet Union was the evil empire.
[00:01:23]  Now, that's a long topic, which I love to talk about, so I won't do it.
[00:01:28]  But the point is, we have to recognize the concept and we have to speak out in public about this.
[00:01:36]  Well, you know, Gordon, indeed, if we look at, if we understood how this organ harvesting worked and just kind of accepted it, the way we would treat, for example, statements like, you know, we want the general wants to exterminate some number of Americans, that becomes a lot more of a credible statement.
[00:01:56]  I guess that's what I'm thinking here.

=== Understanding State Mind (00:29) ===

[00:01:58]  But we've kind of, we haven't allowed ourselves to understand the lengths to which the Chinese Communist Party will go to to maintain and maintain and project power.
[00:02:09]  Absolutely.
[00:02:11]  I mean, it is a confirmation of the state of mind of the Communist Party.
[00:02:17]  And it's very difficult for us as Americans to understand it, which puts us at risk because, as I mentioned, we are not willing to confront it.