When I went to Berkeley, which there was a riot last week, and I was supposed to go with Charlie Kirk, and I asked him over the summer, I said, let's do another university.
It was so fun, you know?
And it was fun because you had people challenging us.
To be a vibrant society, we must be able to be challenged.
We've got to challenge ourselves.
And as the great Andrew Doyle says, we must challenge our certainties.
We must, because we must, we can't have a firm foundational belief system that's unchallenged.
Then it'll be static.
I mean, to continue to be creative, to continue to innovate, to continue to be a vibrant culture, we must allow these challenges.
So I said, Charlie, let's go.
Let me, I'm going to go to the craziest place.
And he said, well, let's go to Berkeley.
And so we went.
I mean, he was murdered in front of his children.
And I'm not quite sure how to filter that.
There seems to be such a dis-ease in our culture and a lack of the most basic human dignity, compassion for this man and what happened after.
It exposed so much ugliness in our culture that I don't think it's always been there.
I think we're at a point where somehow that is accepted by a large group of the populace.
So I went alone after his murder and I went with his mentor, Frank Turek, and there was a group of people at Berkeley who rioted outside and set off tear gas and devices that sounded like gunfire,
threw things, spit at people, and the police and the Berkeley, the University of Cal Berkeley, to their great shame, did not prevent those people from interfering.
And I include the Berkeley police in that they did not allow a corridor to get everybody in there.
And that's very shameful because that is 1964.
That was the free speech movement and universities.
And it wasn't for just one side.
It was all sides.
So for them to fall so deeply off that precipice against and to fall into an abyss of censorship is shameful and unfortunate.