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Nov. 13, 2025 - Epoch Times
03:26
These Are the Strongest Dissidents in China | Sam Brownback
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Religious believers are the only community left that we can work with inside of China that would stand up to this regime.
And that's why the regime spends billions of dollars to oppress and suppress and control every single religion within the country.
And why I think we've been in malpractice in the West by not standing up more for these religious communities that are in our fundamental belief system.
We believe their right to religious freedom and we believe it applies to everybody.
And we haven't been standing with them sufficiently.
And the other thing, we saw this in some of the Jewish refuseniks in the Soviet Union.
Once Ronald Reagan started talking about the Jewish refuseniks, it gave them hope.
They started fighting back more.
They started resisting more because they had hope now that somebody was actually listening who had some potential and could do something about it.
And that's what we need to do for them now.
You know, something also strikes me here.
You mentioned how you think, and I actually agree with you, that most Chinese really have no idea of some of the depths of depravity that the CCP has gone to.
You know, we use, at epoch times, we use firewall, a variety of firewall-busting softwares that are actually incredibly effective at breaking through that firewall.
And I keep thinking about that.
You know, if more Chinese had it, and it's not, it's not, it's a drop in the bucket in a sense compared to the 1.3 billion odd Chinese that are there.
But it is some millions that are regularly accessing through these systems.
But if that could be increased, right, if people could actually understand what this regime is doing and how, and the benefits it's offering to its super elites and what the human cost of that is to the Chinese people themselves and their moral stature and all of it, right?
It's something really powerful in that.
It's powerful and it'll change people.
The Soviet Union, during its turn, I keep going back to it, but the fight is substantially similar.
They had these stores in the Soviet Union that you can only buy with things with foreign currency because they were short of foreign currency.
They had sheets on front of the store, so you had to walk in, you had to be a foreigner, have foreign currency to get in the stores.
And I remember being there as a young man, and we were on, there was an exchange program.
And I'm going, how did these things exist?
Why aren't the people just mad as hops that they can't go in a store that I can go in?
Well, it did make them mad.
They didn't like it.
And it's the same sort of thing here.
Once we tell people about, okay, there's a whole health care system that you don't have access to, and you're never going to get access to it unless somehow you become an elite within the Communist Party.
And that system has organs that they harvest from people illegally and clearly without their will and not with their donation.
I think you really do start to build this anger up about the system and you start to showcase its own evil nature.
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