Nov. 8, 2025 - Epoch Times
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| So, Michael, is the era of climate extremists destroying priceless works of art now over? | |
| That's a really interesting question. | |
| It feels like it's coming to an end. | |
| I mean, we still see, as you mentioned, you know, vandalism most recently against Stonehenge. | |
| Like, those protesters got let off the hook by the courts for what they did. | |
| I think in terms of legitimacy, yeah, I mean, climate extremism, I think, has lost a lot of legitimacy over the last five or six years. | |
| The most kind of obvious part of that is Bill Gates recently said that we really shouldn't look at climate separate from human welfare, separate from human, like how we're doing, you know, at a human level. | |
| And on those metrics, you know, we're doing well. | |
| I mean, we are more resilient to extreme weather events. | |
| The number of disasters has gone down because the number of deaths and the cost of disasters has gone down. | |
| So, fewer people are dying from hurricanes and floods and all the other things that were supposed to hurt us. | |
| And then, I think most dramatically, I, I think, and others finally understand that there was a manipulation going on on a lot of other data, you know, including your organization, which was censored by Facebook for sharing accurate information about the fact that there's been no decline in sea ice in the Arctic for 20 years. | |
| And then we've also seen now it's clear that the activist scientists were manipulating models to show an acceleration in sea level rise when the only long-term reliable source of data, which is called tide gauge data, just measuring the tides, shows no acceleration from the 1850s on. | |
| And that doesn't mean that climate isn't changing. | |
| You know, I think the planet is changing. | |
| It doesn't mean that humans don't have an influence. | |
| I think we do have an influence. | |
| But the size of that influence, I think for me, it's even less than maybe I thought a few years ago. | |
| I was reporting even after I wrote Apocalypse Never, my book from 2020 on environmental alarmism, I was still saying, repeating the scientific, ostensible scientific view that sea levels were, that the rise was accelerating. | |
| I don't think that's, I don't think I can say that anymore. | |
| It's part of the reason I wrote those recent pieces. |
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