Oct. 2, 2025 - Epoch Times
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| They created a market in the organs of their political enemies. | |
| You know, they were filling a demand, because the demand for organs is very big. | |
| And if you just have these people detained, you can make them effectively slave laborers, or you could monetize them by converting their bodies into organs. | |
| So it's not like it's it's it's rational under the conditions of that system. | |
| You use the term extractive repression. | |
| Explain that. | |
| When political scientists look at um cases where authoritarian states repress their population or subgroups of their population. | |
| And it is thought to be a cost. | |
| You're expending the resources of your security apparatus and you're maybe undermining your legitimacy and so on. | |
| I'm simply attempting to direct attention to a form of repression that is profitable and which the state can then use to enhance its capacities through the act of repression. | |
| So that it's not a cost to the state because they simultaneously profit financially, you know, both individual surgeons and then hospitals and the medical system. | |
| Um but China wins recognition globally for being a leader in transplant techniques, um, you know, and publishing in top journals um and kind of winning the the praise, not kidding, of of Western surgeons for innovations in transplantation that happened in China. | |
| Again, it's about making sense of this, you know, this form of s very unusual form of state activity, and to try to unpack how it does make sense. | |
| Um so that's like where the term comes from and how I've tried to kind of uh puzzle depuzzle the issue. | |
| So as you were discussing this earlier, I was one of my revelations when we were making Finding Manny, the Holocaust documentary you made about my wife's father, um, was I just having even read a lot of literature, I hadn't realized how important Jew slave labor was to the Nazi war machine, to the German war machine. | |
| It was unbelievable how many uh uh of these slave labor camps, you know, and then which were later funneled into the into the death camps there were, right? | |
| And how important that was. | |
| So there was this attempt at extracting whatever value was possible, never mind you know, later, you know, collecting the gold fillings and god knows what else, right at the at the death camps themselves. |
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