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| Talking about this forced organ harvesting industry in China, you know, you and I have been looking at this issue for the better part of 20 years. | |
| There's very few people out there aside from some of these key researchers that I think both of us know. | |
| And this hot mic moment for me with Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin talking about achieving immortality through continual organ transplantation. | |
| That was a surreal moment that I honestly am still in a sense digesting many days after the fact. | |
| What was your reaction? | |
| I was shocked. | |
| I mean, shocked, but also not shocked because, I mean, we knew it was happening. | |
| We've known this is happening for a long time. | |
| It was kind of that moment where you're reporting on a murderer and you know a crime has been taking place, and then you get a video clip of the murderer bragging about how they did it and how they're happy they did it. | |
| Like it was that kind of moment for me. | |
| And you know, Jan, I was actually thinking back. | |
| I remember when I first started working for Epoch Times back in 2006, again, you know, almost 20 years, I remember you were one of the first people I met actually at Epoch Times. | |
| You know, you were helping train some of the journalists. | |
| And I think that was the same year that we broke the first stories on live organ harvesting in China. |