Epoch Times - ‘This is how they manipulate people’: Director Yan Ma Aired: 2025-08-14 Duration: 01:53 === Manipulating Pressure Points (01:52) === [00:00:00] As you told me earlier, you know, your relatives have been threatened, they've had their pay cut because of your work. [00:00:07] What do you think they're trying to accomplish with that? [00:00:10] Well, obviously they wanted to put pressure on me. [00:00:16] Just stop whatever I'm doing. [00:00:19] But to me, I think the best way to react to this is do even more. [00:00:24] Because it can back down. [00:00:27] Once you back down, they know they have you in their pocket. [00:00:32] They know that this works. [00:00:34] It will just go worse. [00:00:37] If this film becomes big, and I think it really has the potential to, you've made a really powerful film here. [00:00:45] Aren't you worried that it might have greater repercussions on your family back home? [00:00:50] Yes, all the time. [00:00:51] It really is like, especially to me, as Chinese, this kind of thing really can impact us a lot. [00:01:03] But I don't think I can walk away. [00:01:07] My conscience won't allow me to do that, firstly. [00:01:09] And then secondly, if I stop because of this, then they know, oh, this works for him. [00:01:17] They won't stop. [00:01:18] They will just do more. [00:01:20] I experienced many of these kind of cases from my friends. [00:01:26] They all experienced this before. [00:01:30] There's a first time, always a second time. [00:01:32] They will go to your family again, but this time they will say, okay, we need you to do this for us. [00:01:40] Otherwise, your family is going to be in trouble again. [00:01:42] So they slowly turn you to work for them. [00:01:46] This is how, you know, for someone that doesn't have the bottom line, they can, yeah. [00:01:51] This is how they manipulate people.