Epoch Times - Is America in a New Period of Economic Growth? | Mark Skousen Aired: 2025-08-12 Duration: 02:17 === Avoided Recession (02:16) === [00:00:00] Well, I've been a reluctant bull. [00:00:02] I'm fully invested in the stock market. [00:00:04] Stock market is also suggesting that the economy is doing really well despite the efforts by the Fed to keep interest rates high. [00:00:14] And, you know, the whole issue on the trade and how that's going to affect production and productivity and that sort of thing. [00:00:23] So I've been a skeptic, and so I am, I have to admit, I'm surprised by the data. [00:00:29] The data's been looking good in the last few months. [00:00:32] We've avoided a recession that most economists had been predicting because of the tight money policy. [00:00:39] After easy money, usually you have a boom bust, and there's been no bust. [00:00:44] So maybe Trump is doing the right thing in so many ways, especially in the tax bill, which I think gave a lot of incentives. [00:00:54] And also in the tariff wars, you're seeing a lot of money moving back into the U.S. Although the dollar's been weak, so it's really hard. [00:01:02] You have these mixed signals that are going out there to some extent. [00:01:06] But on that balance, things look pretty positive. [00:01:09] For almost over a year, business spending, business investment, if you look at the breakdown of GDP, gross domestic product, you can see that consumption has been growing rapidly. [00:01:24] Government spending has been growing rapidly. [00:01:26] But business has been tepid. [00:01:28] And there was actually a recession there last year. [00:01:31] It was a mild recession in business spending. [00:01:34] And business spending is the key to economic growth. [00:01:37] And I've tried to demonstrate that with my gross output statistic. [00:01:41] So that's why I was worried in my last press release on gross output. [00:01:48] It was growing at a very slow pace. [00:01:51] But that seems to have changed. [00:01:53] And as an economist, it's extremely important to look at the data rather than just on a theoretical basis, we should be in a recession. [00:02:02] Well, we're not in a recession. [00:02:04] It looks like we're coming out of slow growth, which is really important. [00:02:08] I'll go back to Ronald Reagan. [00:02:10] You know, in 1983, the real GDP grew over 8% under Reagan.