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June 11, 2025 - Epoch Times
08:48
Pediatric cardiologist says the COVID vaccine led to marked rise of myocarditis in children
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We're trying to now come and evaluate these kids, which my opinion as a pediatric cardiologist is, and with over 20 years of experience with pediatric vaccines, we usually have a lot of time to test them before we try these things out on kids.
Unfortunately, now this has been, it's came out very quickly.
It was a whole new platform.
And now we're seeing problems that are...
And now you're talking in terms of heart problems.
Yeah.
So just like the overall incidence of heart problems, this is taking us back to the beginning.
You said that the phenomenon is real.
Yeah.
Any estimates on how real?
I think those are the hard numbers.
I can tell you what, as we look at vaccines causing injury, We looked for the last 30 years, and we have the same amount of vaccine injuries sort of sitting as a baseline.
And we're looking at 280, 290 million vaccines a year.
And we have this baseline.
And then all of a sudden, in 2021, this huge spike comes up.
And the spike for myocarditis is something we'd really never seen before.
So what does it mean?
But you're saying it's persisted at some level, even though it's not really something that's being given anymore.
Yeah.
Well, like I said, at 90 days, 50% were still shown to have some scar.
As you start to get tissue and people die, and we do studies, there was a recent study that showed that not only big scars, but there are micro scars of people who died after maybe had not only the two series, but multiple boosters after that.
So this is the idea that this inflammation is now forming scars.
These micro scars are something that I wouldn't be able to see on a cardiac MRI, but you would have to have a piece of tissue to actually look at underneath a microscope.
And we don't like to go into the heart and take a bite of muscle from the heart.
We sometimes do it, but we really don't like to do it.
So if there's any way we can do it without going into the heart and pulling out a little chunk of heart, we'd like to do that.
You mentioned these elite athletes.
There's all these memes and so forth about this happening.
Is that a real phenomenon?
This is where it depends on whose paper you want to listen to, right?
A recent paper came out and said there's no increase.
They looked at this.
I think that we're really concerned as we look at these studies is, have we really gotten all the information?
Doctors have a sense, and I think a lot of people watching TV have a sense that, wow, usually we would see maybe one elite athlete die a year.
It would be big news, a really, you know, a very big elite athlete.
But it seemed shortly after the COVID vaccine came out, I think everyone had a sense.
And I think that that's how a lot of science starts, especially in medicine.
We see something that gives us a hunch.
And then do we have a reason to be concerned that that hunch might be in response to something we did as doctors?
And boy, as a physician, I hate to think that I've caused harm.
Oh, I would rather not do medicine than cause harm.
I didn't go into medicine to cause harm.
Especially for this great, vibrant athlete.
I mean, I saw this one kid.
I got called down to the ER to see him.
They said, yeah, he has a low heart rate, and he was two weeks out after his second injection, and he was the star running back.
I mean, this kid was just, I mean, just like pure muscle and great.
I walk in the room, and his heart rate's at 20. 20, right?
And I said, don't you guys think somebody should be in this room with him if his heart rate is 20?
That's very low.
What would be a normal rate for someone?
An athlete might be down to 40, and I feel okay if an athlete is at 40 when he's laying in the bed.
But 20 is something that concerns us.
So I think the fact that we do have a model.
We've had, when the Koreans did autopsy studies, and we see this in sudden cardiac death, that there was inflammation in the heart, there was scarring in the heart.
As we get more and more data out, we're starting to look at these things.
And for some people, the spike protein, which is really one of the main causative agents, it's inflammatory.
That means it causes the body to respond like it's being attacked.
It's cardiotoxic.
So these are things that we have a lot of reasons to be very concerned that if there is, we have this hunch of an uptick in people dying suddenly during exercise, which puts a lot of stress on your heart.
A lot of these kids we don't find because what happens to a teenager male when you ask them, why don't you get up?
I'm tired.
I don't want to get up.
That might be the same symptomatology if they have myocarditis.
But if all they do is sit around, and maybe that's the kid who likes to play games all day, and he's a gamer, and he wants to be a professional gamer, and so he's sitting in a chair all day.
We may never see an episode in him because he's never stressed his heart.
But if you take an elite athlete, and once they get into puberty, once they get testosterone, children before puberty act differently in sports than when they're after puberty.
After puberty, they'll push themselves.
Well beyond pain.
Before, they'll just quit.
They'll just say, I'm done.
And so when we have these elite high school athletes, and they know when something's wrong, and so they're coming and telling us, I just don't feel right.
And now what I'm seeing, now four years later, five years later, is I'm seeing this constant and a dramatic change in who I'm seeing coming to see me.
They're complaining their heart doesn't beat normally, and it beats fast for no reason at all.
So that's what I'm seeing.
More now.
And you think that, with a bit of work, you might see that it's due to this scarring.
Due to the scarring, or there was a new study that came out, a preprint study out of Yale that was talking that they're looking at, and this spike protein that was supposed to be generated for a short period of time, just in your arm where you're injected, now has gone all throughout the body, And in some people, as long as they looked, they were still producing more spike protein.
So this shot that was supposed to come in, give us a short little thing of a protein, ask your body to make this protein, then your body makes an antibody response, and then it sort of stops.
It's almost like being in a chronic, vaccinated state, as opposed to allowing the body to make an immune response and then settle back down.
And again, so, I mean, this highlights the fact that just all of us are different, right?
All of us have just different physiologies, different peculiarities, different genetics, you know, resulting in those different environmental factors that have influenced us.
And so something that might be, you know, just a huge problem for one person could be.
Not at all for another.
Yeah.
It's not a one-size-fits-all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
And I'm not trying to scare people.
I don't want to scare people.
We have enough anxiety in this world.
I don't want to add to that.
But kids had very low risk for COVID.
As a pediatrician, I was thrilled because a lot of respiratory illnesses are very hard on.
Very hard on kids.
We just had a lot of flu A come in through this year, and it was really hard on kids.
If we have kids who have a bad RSV season, respiratory syncytial virus season, really hard on kids.
When I first started COVID coming through, Part of it, their receptors are different at that age, at the young child.
And so when we went down this road of now children were going to be vaccinated, and many children had to be vaccinated to attend school, and many children had to be vaccinated to be able to play in sports.
But they really had low risk from the disease.
And so now we have this product.
For me, as a pediatrician, as a pediatric cardiologist, I look, did they get any benefit from this, or did they all get risk?
But like you said, some people have no risk.
The majority of people that we can tell at this point, you ask them, you feel bad?
No.
You feel fine?
Yeah.
How was the shot?
No problem.
Right?
But everyone's different.
And so when we look at it, that's why I don't want to say, I don't want to make it out like, you know, our hospitals are filled with these kids with myocarditis.
It's not.
But we saw something that was out of normal.
And that should make us curious and go, boy, they had a low risk.
Did we do harm to them?
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