Epoch Times - ‘You can’t reverse the clock’: Pamela Garfield-Jaeger on ‘gender-affirming’ care
Aired: 2025-04-23
Duration: 04:23


=== Chemical Castration Risks (04:23) ===

[00:00:00]  I don't even call it side effects.
[00:00:01]  I call them effects.
[00:00:03]  That's just what happens.
[00:00:05]  Right? Those aren't side effects.
[00:00:07]  We are sterilizing them.
[00:00:09]  Right? These are the drugs that they use to chemically castrate criminals.
[00:00:13]  Lupron. So that's not a side effect.
[00:00:16]  These are the things that do happen.
[00:00:18]  We're making a choice.
[00:00:20]  And oftentimes when you're doing a medical intervention, you make a choice between one difficult thing between another, right, if there's some kind of really severe medical issue.
[00:00:28]  However, we're taking physically healthy children and then giving them these effects.
[00:00:35]  That's the difference.
[00:00:37]  And then calling it medicine.
[00:00:38]  Instead of helping them with whatever psychological distress they're having.
[00:00:42]  Or they might not even be having that much psychological distress.
[00:00:45]  They might have just spent a little too much time on the Internet.
[00:00:48]  There are so many different levels to this.
[00:00:51]  And we're told over and over again that these drugs are reversible.
[00:00:55]  I don't even understand that.
[00:00:57]  That was the other weird thing when I came back.
[00:00:59]  How can something that suppresses puberty be called reversible?
[00:01:05]  That just...
[00:01:06]  Do we need a study to even see the common sense in that?
[00:01:11]  It's not reversible.
[00:01:13]  You're stopping puberty.
[00:01:14]  I mean, boys end up with, you know, a micropenis, and girls, they don't develop.
[00:01:22]  Their bones, their bone density, it doesn't develop.
[00:01:26]  They're not, you know, all of these horrible things happen.
[00:01:29]  It's just, and you can't reverse the time.
[00:01:32]  You can't reverse the clock.
[00:01:34]  There are things that a child goes through to grow up.
[00:01:38]  Those are very important developmental years, both physically and emotionally.
[00:01:42]  That's not reversible.
[00:01:44]  You can't ever get your childhood back.
[00:01:46]  How does one go about finding a therapist in your mind if they feel they need one for their kid?
[00:01:54]  Yeah, I mean, I'll tell the truth.
[00:01:56]  It's not easy.
[00:01:59]  Especially if you want one in person.
[00:02:01]  And I don't think Zoom therapy is the greatest, especially for kids.
[00:02:05]  It's become very widespread, and I don't think it's, oh, it's cracked up to be.
[00:02:10]  People use it for convenience, but I don't know how effective it really is.
[00:02:15]  And sometimes that can be dangerous, depending on the severity of the situation.
[00:02:19]  But there are some websites out there.
[00:02:22]  There are some lists, some directories.
[00:02:25]  There's one directory called conservativecounselors.com.
[00:02:32]  And they will not affirm your child.
[00:02:35]  There's also a group called Therapy First, and that's therapyfirst.org, and they run some alternate trainings, and they don't believe in affirming children instantly.
[00:02:46]  Although it depends on what you believe, because some believe that maybe eventually you should affirm.
[00:02:50]  Some believe that you should never affirm.
[00:02:52]  So it really depends on what you believe as a parent.
[00:02:56]  So I think when you're looking for a therapist, you should always screen very carefully and don't be afraid to ask questions.
[00:03:03]  And also stay very involved in the process.
[00:03:08]  No therapist can ever fix your child.
[00:03:12]  Even the best therapists in the world cannot fix your child without you because they're only in your child's life temporarily, and their goal is to help you connect.
[00:03:22]  And they need to know what's happening with you and with your family and your child's history.
[00:03:27]  They need to really be involved to be able to help your child.
[00:03:30]  So that's also a big shift in the profession is just pushing the parents away.
[00:03:35]  So if you are a parent looking for a therapist for your child...
[00:03:39]  Make sure that you are very involved, and if the therapist says,"No, I need to have my special place with your child," that's a red flag.
[00:03:50]  I mean, they do need to have some connection with your child, of course, but they should be talking to you.
[00:03:55]  And they should be communicating with you.
[00:03:58]  They should be talking to you at the very least about what are the treatment goals?
[00:04:01]  What are they seeing are the concerns?
[00:04:02]  How are they conceptualizing the case?
[00:04:04]  What do they think is wrong?
[00:04:05]  What do they think could help?
[00:04:08]  What are the things that they think you could do as a parent?
[00:04:11]  So they should be working with you.
[00:04:13]  You should be working as a team with that therapist.
[00:04:15]  And that's a lot more work.
[00:04:17]  And with these overworked, overstressed therapists, even those that are honestly...
[00:04:22]  I'd say very ethical.