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April 10, 2025 - Epoch Times
09:34
China is producing contaminated medicine for Americans, says Rosemary Gibson
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A Johns Hopkins trained physician walked into the Mayo Clinic one night, the emergency department, because he had some known problem that he self-diagnosed.
It's very common.
It wasn't a big deal.
Healthy guy in his 40s.
And they said, well, why don't you stay overnight, and we'll work you up tomorrow.
Then you can drive back home, because he was a far distance from home.
Within 24 hours, he was in multiple organ failure, and the doctors had no idea what was happening.
The next week his heart was removed, put on a machine.
And three or four months later he died a horrific death.
And it was traced back, this went through multi-district litigation along with hundreds of other cases.
It was contaminated blood thinner.
The API was made in China.
It was a highly sophisticated fake substitute for the real active ingredient.
And at high levels it could cause death.
So the implications of poorly performing drugs, things that are not made properly, is profound.
And by the way, this process by which this fake substitute was made, the Chinese government patented it.
And it also flew under the radar of testing.
So another point, testing can get us only so far.
Eventually we have to have our medicines made by people who are...
Trustworthy, ethical, and in places where the FDA can do its job and protect the public.
And by the way, it was President Kennedy that signed these amendments to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that laid out the legal framework for the FDA to have standards of...
What are the standards?
They have to be pure.
You can't have contaminants in them.
They have to work.
And is the dose the right amount of...
Is it really in that pill?
So this is a matter of our law.
And that was in the 1960s, and now as we've gone global, that's all blown up.
And I don't think we can blame the FDA to try to manage an enormous global supply chain.
We have generic drugs being made in South Africa, and as we know, India, China, everywhere.
It's an impossible task.
So we've got to find a better way to manage it, but I do think we have a place to start in how we purchase these drugs.
And to hold these companies accountable, not just for having, making them accountable for quality and not hiding behind the FDA.
Let's talk about this blood thinner for a moment.
What was the motivation?
Did we have any inkling of the motivation of inserting this fake component into the system?
Yeah, there was a shortage of the real raw material.
It comes from pigs.
And China has a lot of pigs, and there was a disease outbreak among the pig population, so they couldn't produce enough product to meet market demand.
And so they came up with this fake substitute.
Now, if you're a legitimate company, what you do is you tell the FDA what you're doing, and the FDA will ask you, well, how do you know it's safe?
It has to be tested before you can just sell it and put it in a finished drug.
So this was in response to a shortage of the real material.
But that's not the way to handle it by any stretch.
And when you say sophisticated, what do you mean by it was a sophisticated action?
It matched so clearly.
If you tested the fake substitute using the testing methods at the time, It wouldn't have picked up the fact that this was in there.
It wouldn't have read it.
And so it was unknown.
It was so out of the ordinary that those test methods would not pick it up.
And it was good enough for the Chinese government to patent it.
They clearly wanted to do something with it.
It was important to them.
This was not some rogue operators in a facility somewhere.
Do they think they might have thought it worked?
It's hard to know what was the mindset there.
There were enterprising minds, and it's good to have enterprising minds, but you want it put into a purpose that serves humanity.
And again, this is a situation where only some portion of that supply had this adulterated...
That's right.
There were varying levels of it put into the finished drug.
So some batches of the finished drug had higher levels than others.
Thanks. Thank you.
The Chinese Communist Party is waging, in its own words, a people's war against America.
And, you know, given that, you know, anywhere between 80 to 98 percent of these components of medicines are from China.
China and at the moment have to be gotten there, it just strikes me as a very powerful potential vector of attack in a situation where if you put something bad into a small piece of the supply,
it would take a very long time for anyone to even figure out that an attack has
That's exactly right.
Look what's happening with illegal fentanyl.
It's playing around with the chemicals.
Illegal prescription drugs with fentanyl in them.
So well done, the fakes, that it's really hard to detect.
And what I'm concerned about is that we're going to see a convergence of the illegal market and the legal supply chain and production of medicines coming from China.
What does that mean?
Those practices that are done in the illegal market that are killing people.
What's to stop enterprising minds in a very negative way that want to take down America?
To put some debilitating chemicals into 2% or 5% of the most widely prescribed generic drugs in the United States.
Well, just let me kind of reiterate everything you've told me here, because this is like an unbelievably troubling picture, right?
You're saying there's no spot checks.
People who could do spot checks feel like they could be arrested, and they very much could.
I didn't even talk about how they're incentivized to give a perfect stamp of approval if they're there, right?
Because then they know they won't have any problems.
So there's all that dimension.
80 to 98% of material is being sourced from there.
Some component is being sourced from there.
Nefarious intent.
Fentanyl, which I...
And many others argue is actually a weapon of war from the perspective of the Chinese regime.
So I mean, this isn't just a commercial issue, not by a long shot, I think.
No, I agree with that.
And I will call it for the first time.
And I believe that we will be seeing nefarious activity in our legal medicine supply chain.
That will be very difficult to detect and you could take down America without firing a shot.
You don't need any expensive missiles.
You could debilitate the population and leave the infrastructure intact.
If we don't fix this and we can fix it if we want, I predict that that's where we'll be.
And this is a perfect crime.
You can harm people, even kill them.
But how do you detect it?
It's very hard to detect when you put chemicals in and these medicines are taken by people with different chronic illnesses.
And there's already so much noise out there.
So much complexity in the system.
All these different manufacturers.
Correct. And you know how the contaminated heparin was discovered?
It wasn't by the FDA.
It was by a nurse.
In a dialysis unit at a children's hospital in St. Louis, there were two kids on dialysis, and they were given heparin, and they got into trouble.
It turned out fine for them, but it kept happening over subsequent weeks, despite their best efforts.
Is it the water supply?
What is it?
Is it the air?
And that's when the CDC and FDA were called in.
But the signaling came from people on the ground, people taking care of patients.
We have lots of carcinogens in a blood pressure medicine.
The recalls I mentioned in 2018, it was three months after ChinaRx came out, was on cue.
That was going on for six years before it was detected and was found by a company that eventually that information got to the FDA.
So we're so behind the eight ball.
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