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March 19, 2024 - Epoch Times
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New Transcript Wrecks 'Official' Jan. 6 Witness Testimony
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You might remember how, two years ago, the January 6th Select Committee hired an actual TV producer in order to make these really tight, well-edited hearings to be released to the public.
In total, over the course of a six-month long period, ten individual hearings were broadcast on TV. And one of the most unexpected and salacious things to come out of these hearings was the testimony of this woman right here, Ms.
Cassidy Hutchinson.
At the tail end of the Trump administration, Cassidy served as a top aide to Mr.
Mark Meadows, the White House Chief of Staff.
And during Ms.
Cassidy's testimony, which, just for reference, took up the entirety of hearing number six, she made some rather shocking and salacious claims about what President Trump did in his car on January 6th.
Here's a short snippet from her two-hour-long hearing, and just for reference, when she says Bobby, she's referring to Mr.
Robert Engel, Trump's lead Secret Service agent.
Take a listen.
Tony proceeded to tell me that when the President got in the beast, he was under the impression from Mr.
Meadows that the off-the-record movement to the Capitol was still possible and likely to happen, but that Bobby had more information.
So once the President had gotten into the vehicle with Bobby, he thought that they were going up to the Capitol, and when Bobby had relayed to him, we're not, we don't have the assets to do it, it's not secure, we're going back to the West Wing, the President had Very strong, very angry response to that.
Tony described him as being irate.
The President said something to the effect of, I'm the effing President, take me up to the Capitol now.
To which Bobby responded, Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing.
The President reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel.
Mr.
Engel grabbed his arm, said, Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
We're going back to the West Wing.
We're not going to the Capitol.
Mr.
Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engle.
And when Mr.
Renato had recounted this story to me, he had motioned towards his clavicles.
And so essentially, among her claims here was that President Trump became so livid and irate after not being taken to the U.S. Capitol that he himself lunged at the steering wheel of the vehicle, and when that didn't work out, he instead lunged at his own Secret Service agent in order to try and choke him out.
That is the story that the January 6th Select Committee decided to broadcast to the entire country and the entire world in their televised, highly produced hearing.
However, interestingly, there was another interview that the January 6th Select Committee conducted behind closed doors, which directly refuted the testimony of Ms.
Cassidy.
But for some reason, the transcript of that interview, it was not included in the final report released by the J6 Committee, much less in the televised hearings.
However, with the Republicans now in charge of the House, they're beginning to dig through a lot of these previously unpublished interviews.
In fact, House Republicans, they just released their own report, you can see it up on your screen, titled, On the Failures and Politicization of the January 6th Select Committee.
And the newly released information contained in this report reveals, among many other things, that despite what was said in that televised hearing, President Trump, who was 73 years old at the time, did not fly across the SUV to try and grab the steering wheel from the driver, much less did he try to choke out his own Secret Service agent.
Instead, here is what allegedly happened, according to the man who was actually driving the car.
"President Trump and Robert Engel, his lead Secret Service agent, entered the SUV at about 1:10 p.m. after President Trump concluded his speech, which was delivered on the Ellipse.
President Trump asked Bob Engel if we could go to the Capitol and why couldn't we go to the Capitol, and was insistent on going to the Capitol.
Later, the president was pushing pretty hard to go.
Mr.
Engel's response was essentially to tell him that we didn't have any people at the Capitol, we didn't have a plan in place, and that we needed to essentially go back to the White House and assess what our options were and wait till we can get a plan in place before we went down there.
President Trump responded by saying he felt it would be fine because he wasn't concerned about the people at the Capitol describing them as being his supporters.
Mr.
Engel consistently had the same response, that we didn't have a plan in place, we didn't have people at the Capitol, and that we needed to go back to the White House and reassess.
And so the driver took President Trump as well as his lead Secret Service agent to the White House instead.
And when asked about the president lunging for the steering wheel of the car, well, the driver said that basically no such thing ever happened.
Quote, I did not see him reach.
President Trump never grabbed the steering wheel.
I didn't see him lunge to try to get into the front seat at all.
Furthermore, a little bit further down in the transcript, it shows that the J6 Select Committee, they asked the driver a specific question regarding what President Trump said, to which the driver responded, quote, President Trump didn't say anything like, I'm the president.
I'll decide where I get to go or where I'm going.
And yet, for some odd reason, this testimony from the driver was not included in the final report.
And instead, the January 6th committee decided to broadcast to the whole country and to the whole world Miss Cassidy Hutchinson's account of what took place on that day, despite the fact that she wasn't there.
They broadcast her testimony to the whole world, even though they had the interview with the driver who was literally in the car and who refuted the claims.
Furthermore, and this is the part that makes the story perhaps even wilder, is the fact that Ms.
Cassidy Hutchinson's account of what took place in that day was actually third-hand.
She allegedly was told about what happened by a Secret Service agent named Anthony Ornato, who himself heard about what happened from another Secret Service agent.
However, in the transcript of Mr.
Ornato's interview, here's what he told the House committee.
And so, just to recap, the January 6th committee decides to televise the most salacious account of what happened, despite having first- and secondhand proof that it was likely false.
Here's in fact how the newly released House report, the one that's criticizing the J6 Select Committee and uncovering all these previously unreleased transcripts, here's how they describe the whole situation.
Quote, Despite the driver of the president's SUV testifying under oath that the Hutchinson story was false, the Select Committee chose to validate and promote Hutchinson's version of the story as fact.
The Select Committee hid the driver's full testimony and only favorably mentioned his testimony in its final report.
It did not release the full transcript.
And frankly, it's exactly stories like these which I believe reveal the underlying reason for why people trust the government less and less.
Because if the January 6th Select Committee, if they just gave people a full accounting of what happened on that particular day, without trying to skew and shave the narrative, then I believe people across the political aisle would accept it.
They could use the report to figure out the facts, they could use the report to figure out what happened, and then they could use it to make up their own minds as to what they believe.
However, when you have things like this of one narrative being propped up while contradictory evidence is brushed under the rug and suppressed, well, frankly, just calls into question every single other thing in the report.
Makes it, unfortunately, unbelievable.
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