Epoch Times - The "Dirty Secrets" of California's Clean Energy | Jim Phelps Aired: 2022-07-27 Duration: 01:13 === Greenwashing Electricity (01:13) === [00:00:00] In California, we strive to have green energy. [00:00:02] In some cases, we may even pay more to get electricity that is branded as green. [00:00:08] But are we really getting green energy? [00:00:10] You apply a little bit of magic, sleight of hand, little smoke and mirrors, and the consumer feels like, hey, wow, you know, I got something that's green and I'm feeling good about myself. [00:00:21] In reality, you aren't getting what you think you got. [00:00:24] You're getting dirty power. [00:00:26] Who's responsible for this greenwashing in the electricity space? [00:00:30] With all of this gamesmanship behind the scenes and all this exporting of dirty power and we got clean, so aren't we green? [00:00:37] You may be, but you just exported dirty and so what are you doing for the environment? [00:00:42] My guest today is Jim Phelps, a California utility expert who spent 35 years in the power industry as an engineering contractor and utility rate analyst. [00:00:52] Our priorities are all wrong. [00:00:55] We've got the wrong people in doing the wrong stuff. [00:00:57] We've got our eye over here, you know, on green and not looking at the total cost of being green. [00:01:02] Are we really being green? [00:01:04] So what exactly is greenwashing? [00:01:07] And how is it affecting your utility bills? [00:01:10] Let's find out in today's episode. [00:01:12] I'm Siamai Korami.