China's Leaders 'Studied the Holocaust Very Carefully'—Nury Turkel on Genocide in Xinjiang
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As a society, we're dealing with a monumental challenge.
Slave labor produced products are in our marketplace, in our homes, maybe in our bedrooms.
Even the baby pajamas are reportedly being produced by enslaved Uighurs.
The PPEs that we use to save lives at hospitals and the society are reportedly being made by Uighur slaves.
The beauty products that have been promoted as a black gold targeting African-American community have been made of Uighur prisoners' hair.
This also reminds us what happened to the six million Jews.
And also we are dealing with another international stage A global event that the CCP may use to normalize its behavior.
So I call on the American consumers to be mindful that the products that they're using May have been produced by enslaved Uighurs.
We're talking about a significant number of consumer products.
That includes Campbell's soup, the sports outfit, any cotton products.
And also, I want athletes, policy makers, to be mindful that the Beijing authorities may use next year's Winter Olympics as a global stage to normalize, as the case of Hitler in 1936.
In the backdrop that he already had Dachau concentration camps built, Jewish women were subject to sterilization, forced labor, and three years later Hitler invaded Europe.
So we need to be mindful.
The history does not repeat itself.
We allow history to repeat.
I'm going to build a little bit on this because this issue is very close to my heart.
My father-in-law is a Holocaust survivor.
I've been very careful to try to not create any false equivalency between what happened during the Holocaust and what Nazi Germany perpetrated and what's happening in China.
But recently, there's just so many commonalities that it's very difficult To not see them, frankly.
And we have, of course, Holocaust survivors as well as various Jewish groups stepping up to basically condemn what's happening in Xinjiang and other actions by the Chinese Communist Party.
Where do you kind of stand on this?
The Holocaust award should be reserved for the Jewish people.
It's not Holocaust, but similar.
Genocidal action has been taken against the Uighurs or other Turkic Muslims in China, full stop.
It's not a Holocaust, but similar criminal acts being committed.
What is similar is that the CCP leaders studied the Holocaust very carefully, Nazi policies very carefully.
When I was shown the China cable reported about two years ago, The first thing that comes to mind is Hitler's playbook.
Very similar method.
Dehumanization, sexual violence, separation of families, making that individual feel less of a human.
Very similar.
And this collective punishment idea.
The Chinese documents use this word, jizhong.
Jizhong means collective collection.
So they had something in mind that had already occurred in history.
So because of China's influence around the world, Because of the way that they made the world to believe that you cannot criticize China because of the potential consequences,
the international community's response in the face of this industrial scale concentration camps, the ongoing genocidal campaign, even the promise such as, never again, a ring shallow.
Because the international community have failed to respond.
Even if those responded, those responses can be tippet, mean-dearing.
So this is not about the CCP anymore.
This is about us who can make difference.
If you don't stop this, who knows?
We might be dealing with another religious minority who has been seen as an instabilizing force.
Or a potential source for unrest or threat to their existence.
So we have to be very, very bold.
And responses to these crimes being committed meets what cries out for global condemnation, individual collective responses from liberal democracies.
You mentioned that Beijing is likely to try to use these upcoming Olympics to normalize all of this behavior that you just described, which I know about, but again sent chills up my spine, as you described.
Some people are calling this the genocide Olympics.
They're advocating for a boycott.
Your thoughts?
I agree with the terminology.
Historians and some Jewish people, supporters of the Jewish people, called 1936 as Nazi Olympics.
Similarly, When you look at the practice, the way that the government is preparing and utilizing these kind of events, in the case of 2008 Summer Olympics, and now the next year's Winter Olympics, should teach us some lesson.
That we cannot normalize, we cannot allow a regime such as the one in Beijing to use this kind of games that promote unity, friendship, spirit for advancement of their political repression.
What kind of message that the international community will send to Beijing if the international community nations repeat the same mistake as they did in 1936?
There are more than 40 countries, including the United States, attended the Berlin Olympics.
We may see similar attendance next year, but what kind of reaction that the Chinese will have And what kind of oppressive policies that they may even formulate in response.
That can be military, societal, political, diplomatic.
So this is on us.
And also, this game, if let happen, as a normal international sports games or activity, It will be unfair to the athletes who will be competing in the backdrop of genocidal actions, in the backdrop of industrial-scale concentration camps.
So what do we do about it?
I think we should consider removing this Olympic to another country that does not commit genocide or postpone it.
The Summer Olympics in Tokyo was postponed because of the pandemic.
It's not something unusual.
The circumstances does not allow Beijing to continue to have this platform to promote its interests and normalize its behaviors.
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